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"Holiday thanks for joining us. It's the racing post weekend. Post cost on. Bruce and i'm delighted to be joined by gram roadway and all to rag contributes to the show the mighty just in hand them to look ahead to really good way can. His action is on tv. On saturday. four races heidel park the highlight of which is super sprint. With stall and looki- get the job done a fairly short price go couple of crackers at ascot and also to milwaukee garages over kempton park. And then we'll see what else rest alleged fancy our dub auckland-based expert justin moore hopefully beauties over there and then on sunday what rights we're gonna find out. Just how good baida is he. Comes up against snarling and in the pre moon loads to get stuck into then and we will start with hejduk and we'll start with one forty five. It's the bet fed diety. No it's not. It's the fed double daily rewards superior model stakes. It a group three. Roughly speaking these are the prices as we always say shop around just best prices but also best each way. Terms lord glitters good outlaw glitz is. He's five eleven to eight. My auburn's five to two may. Tony is four to one bill. Rookie sentence on artistic. Rifles is tense. One only the five runners justin but should be quite good rice. They shouldn't how are you my old friend. Good bruce. it's a nice to be back. i think it's i believe it's three years in on this date. That's far too long my far too long and in that time nottingham forest your beloved forest. I got a stuttering start. The season having is that goes new. More heartache than eat like it's it's it's an all-too-familiar heartache didn't it's been it's been a bad week or if it's happening in portugal the other note as well it's just it's just all my goodness a cool chevron out about football we went to about so we might we g run you'll be happy. Let's talk about rising. Let's talk about one forty five. Who's going to win justice. Well it does seem to come down to lord gators doesn't he is the He is the one proven groupon. Performer in the field holds Stay the nine forms. Well supposedly chilling that he did that over. The winter may down as well but he saw the beaten by world at york. The last day holds my over on that farm There's a couple who might have been a bigger threaten move not actually made cut for this race for one reason or but You know he just. He just runs as race every day. I think the one probably below power runny had this season. It was the wasn't lock. Engine made up for that when he gathered in three of palestinian oscars. You know he's just he's just one of those He's just one of those reliable sources. It's it's hard to see him in them. In this in this context. I think i agree with that. Justed you agree with that. Jeeva could local. It's something lovely hosts is his name. Yeah he's a great host local real cliche. Now you say always the vote. She loved to own his name but he really is little glitters because he just turns up and he runs these rights time and time again and he's done on his ass to start says need not far beyond palace pay prop group one hoax royal escort and then of course last time out beyond a potential one -ose in real world and for that arising pulse rate and have one hundred nineteen. I mean that's better than the average for group two in aside. He should be winning if he can return. That's a formula group three rice. He's a show price though and he doesn't even the most frequent wenas is locator. Saw in what could be a bit of a modeling for runner rice and he has to come from off the pace. I'm going to take him on with the mark. Johnston ran a may. Danny is the so race obviously made any win winning because he would just go out there. Typical mark johnson. Be up there nicely on the pace tactical anemia outstay. Mommy's winning the goodwood writes in the handicap was a really really good time. It nicely rising pokes writing a one. Thirteen would usually be good enough to win. An average group three lowest. I'm out yoki run off a big way in an already competitive andy capp and run another solely. Bryce beaten a couple of links in an it team run a handicap. I just think this smaller failed. Tactical setup might just may done in any might be able to upset the favorite. Okay we're gonna stick with you. G road friend next to hate must start with the two twenty two miles boost on fair handicap. A modern sixties. The trip valley forge is favourite at random batmans four than its victory at four to one pry on. I five nine six seventeen to bar. Eight running sets go each white potential. Who've you got your own hinchey wrote yeah. I'm glad you're coming tomato face races because these are the same race is up in handicapping. These this year for rice in post saw a lot these very well valley. Four jobs is going to be favor air every monday. Male rose last time out. He traveled fantastic welford at rice. And i thought always gonna win this race easily may call it hard work of it so it was a finnish. Econo- failing a little bit. I just wonder if he's the strongest astaire's at mylan six furlongs given he went further rice. And then how disappointingly finished on the line but only just. I'll wonder if six phones at haydock where stiff track might just stretch himself quite keen to take valley forge on. And the one that offense. He's vino victory aches this random probably one of the strongest team races. The whole season at sandown in july a classic lauder went on the win since the since being ferdie group. Free dancing harry was. That's one twice since. Noonday gun was full-fat selena simmons and since gone really well unlisted company and even the set finish lost aunts to paris. Went on to win next time. So that was absolutely rock solid foam and of course they know victory one one again next time himself at kempton giving further substance the phonies gone up four pam for that win at kempton but some i think he's still got plenty of upside vino victory. He absolutely hammered them in that sandham race and we now a good that rice was and i think this nicely for vino matrix ceva just quickly explains listens what you may be helping handicapping styles on the flat this year. Yes i know. Rights is over monem. Five furlongs We have race imposed ratings Four which erron Assessment of al good hr choices and every single rice. Run over monem. Five furlongs this year in britain. I've been writing and give him right into every hosts In every rice So the team of handicappers will. Dvr polarized lives go. Steve mason jumps. And then you've got all the specialists in other areas and obviously we got the irish writings guys as well so your designated beats is staying. Flat hosts exactly. Yeah we have nothing. James norris juvenile also. Everyone has their own specialize in. This is mine. Hopefully in excellent nice ones i'd vino. Victory is gerald's fencing. The to twenty of stupid for another staying racist to fifty. Five's the free exchange bara handicapped loads of old favorites. Global storm is favourite for charlie appleby roundabout fours than it's five to one noble mice grade seven's rhythmic incense seven's good old. Regine ski ninety one. Indianapolis ten ball so lots of old favorites heggie rod. You know the lot back your hand. Which one is gonna prevail. Yeah great rice. Isn't the old barracuda. Lots of history to it a net. Is you have to be right. It's highly to get into the stadium races. Top-class one's lot the for example in the old backup that it's very difficult for the lightly. Raced improves to get in. So you often end up with a lot of exposed classy stairs taken each run but not that many of them have got much in hand over the handicapper. And i think that's the case with this race like you say loads of old favorites loads of races by the none of them. Really hold any secrets from us. We just now how good they are. And it's just which one is going to be the best handicapped on the dye. Whose turn is it this year. This time it might be. Indianapolis is turn because mean. He's really well handicapped on his best. Foam i write it down eighty-five. He was up into the high nineties still hundreds earlier in his career when he was trained by james given and he's gone to the williams's season and williams of great trainer of the devos status and he really does improve voices when he gets them from odds. And he's taken time for indianapolis to to really find these fate but he's been running well and he's last few thoughts. He was only a few beyond just he'd better ascott last out in the was it the shogun cup stairs like holy. I think iran cracker again ascott in july but the the standard piece of foam matchy came at this coast last year in september when he ran through an one hundred. And so you've beaten off link beyond stargazer malkin ninety seven. I mean if he runs a one hundred to one hundred and so in this race he's going to be very difficult to because he's only running off an official right innovative five. So that would mean we've got. Some new region is seventeen. Pam willion even if he runs these ascott full still go massive chance but back at haydock. I think this might be tracked. So indianapolis is the one for me. Ebbers splendid from the status to the sprinters on the big rice fights the three thirty on saturday. The first sprint cup is a group one over six furlongs and starman after his third in the morris is favourite at around about ten eleven. I think you can get some even still craxi. Foresee eleven to our power. Run about eight to one glenn show is ten and then it's fourteen bar eleven goto post justice back to you. We rely on stolman here what we look to something a slightly more exotic price. It's been all sort of for the sprinters isn't it. I don't think anything really is captured. The imagination amongst among sprint paternity this year with with bash air in in decline and by process of elimination. I suppose come down on the side of starman here it is another thing as well this. This race is normally ron absolutely bottomless grown in the beginning of september. But it's going to be good to firm tomorrow which puts a very much in the in stein's court as as as the one as the one to beat in this race you a couple of sort of course create a force would certainly in one who would have been would have been big leveler if heated on the ground. He's only two on good to firm ground in july cup as well. I think it's the ground turned out. Self would have been might have been a different story for him but with the prevailing conditions. The way they are steiner's is obviously the to beat. It's you know to display g road opposing lord leaders in the previous groups race of like the the two previous at haydock tomorrow both very straightforward that say in that sense very unusual listening to be looking at high races she say justin an unbending fairly confident is on the ground and that grounding much much foam than enormous size shape hiding for sure. Okay jay Justin thinks comments a solid fans. What do you think yeah. I mean he's going to be very difficult to bosnia if he runs to the same level as when he won the july cup then he will win. This right now dow. But there's any juice in the price. Very show odds. And i think how bruce i'm actually really excited about being text nephew people so Probably go but hopefully won't too much on and they'll holdup because it is a great one. The absolute outsider to field in this race is nando parrado and i think this could run a huge race huge odds last time out newbury running a group two race hungerford over seven furlongs. They stopped his on him for the first time and it just leads him up. He went absolutely nuts from the from and he was going far far too quickly for the whole race but he actually ran very very well to stay on finish fifth in that race. Consider now quickly went off now. That was a great folks. I wasn't far for group one or or not top top class form. But i think if he'd been able to raise a bit more conservatively sangyang gone bonkers early. I think he would have a lock closer to winning that race. And of course this is six furlongs not seven and the show pacey showed last time out that that was ideal for a sprint race. I'm expecting them to be pulling him back here. We've blink as i think they will just blast the amount like they did at newbury and they just let him go. Hope he's quick enough now. This don't forget this is not no stranger to causing a huge upset. I he did win the coventry stakes last year. One hundred and fifty to one. So he's good back home. He was placed in a couple of great ones last season. There is no one better. Training sprint is in my opinion than clive cox. He's fantastic we sorts voices and i just thought that new brakes last amount when he blasted off just showed a little bit of the old spark. Almost as though he was getting nando parrado bacteria's best effects special. He's got great. Great chance of at least be emplaced in this race. And frankie dettori is writing right. Completely right frankie tutorials rodney and frankie dettori going up to high dog for one ride only sad a busy saudi. When this escort grew race at kempton. He's going to haydock to ride one. Host code ended up product fifty to one. What club cox must have picked up the phone and said to frankie tories agent. Frankie fancy coming up to write these complete. So that's got no chance. I'm sure frankie's agent gone. Yeah it'd be without for that. I don't think saami frankie up there for one ride on the diaper huge price. Just gonna run really well. Think they saw h. y. Probably struggled to beat starman if he's on his best but who knows maybe starman will have an off day and then the protocol. Huge upset forest all brilliant and g road. I've got another thing to back up your berlin case as if you needed. When nando parrado won the coventry last year one hundred fifties geno finished tenth in that rice. No idea creative. Fools who is the to second favourite for this. So how about that justice asylum case isn't it because he convinced you've got to have a five on nando now have justly no defense me sorry sorry walk in fact doesn't convention nothing will okay. We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll turn our attentions lasko download. The brand new racing post progeny tracker the only tracker of its kind giving you the ability to track unnamed racehorses by any siro dot com and you can also get easy access to sales information. You can download a free on the app. Store by searching progeny tracker well combat the rising post we can post cast bruce millington justin o'hanlon and graham road white before the bright. Jiro made a sensational case. Nando parrado in sprint cup fifties. now we're gonna go across to ask to handicaps. That stopped with the three ten. The lavat stakes. It's over a mile and a half and warren. I michael ties favorite at eleven to four. And then it's alpha dell atlanta to chalk stream limbs to champagne is thirteen to two irish legend. Seventy one note at named after justin our hand and fifteen to bar justin's opting out of our scott races. He such appearances Av hasn't done at least in our research on. E. tracy doesn't want to tighten the mickey out of the raiders by putting a particular. He wouldn't back himself so he's going to opt out jared. I'm sure you've had a good study up purpose. Yeah yeah. I've had a good look and A fancy alpha though in the in this right so excited. They're not actually close at the screen down on. My computer is over to reopen it. Quick as a mic drop was finishing. Just watch slash your computer screen down yet blind you. It was in conformance when he finally smileys. Yeah absolutely that was like It just got it back there. Under roger and is russia veritas three times this race In the last ten years for the last eight one the last two we've shand dolls and operate so i'm going to become movies a here l. l. Dale who lost. I'm out at goodwood. Showed another improve this as quite progressive. All this Three year old. He's progressing well beyond one amount. Johnston scorecard jim crowley at she. Got it wrong that day because qatar is hamden Chadwell hoops so It's rare that jim crowley gets it wrong usually's on the right one. But the fact that he did. Roy alphaville tells me that dogs must have been shown. Plenty homefront convinced. Crowley to ride unraveling carter and Yeah i think that was now. Pr one hundred free. Which was a career-best. He's escaped to rise for in the whites for it. And i think you'll be to progressive. They so that's alpha male. Thank you very much justin. By the way you're you'll renown within racing circles as being the rory. Bremner of threatening your. You're an app master impressions. Will you be working on a g road impression for us at some point because i think you do a great job with a give it some time. Okay just quickly. How does he pronounce. I. r. s. e. o.'s. Which would g road fans in the big rice esco at three forty fives the carries foundation supporting the lighthouse club handicap. I've normally huge this. Just eleven this. Tom via serendipity favorite clips of capri six to one documenting thirteen to top secret. Thirteen to seven to one bar Jira who'd you fancy. Yom fairly shorter via serendipity. Is the best handicapped. In this. Right i mean. He's absolutely fernan on his best foam. He was right. You really high is best. He's one hundred and five on the all weather and coach. The all weather crossover that they've been going on about for years. We've we've races are scott and the straight track. Hawks is good on the awebber. Tend to act and ask all season coach winner. They serve serendipity laurien very impressive last windsor as well. It wasn't yeah. Yeah well bats and absolutely got it. Done very impressed so very very good time as well. That was around the time that rice and he came he came for and one very well and he is a host for memory when he finds these foam does tend to hold it fairly well. So i'm hoping that he can defy rise in the whites. He's only gone up four pound than if you spoke to tom. Siegel erections there's not many jockeys on the the highly turn on straight track ascott. So that's another plus brilliant stuff over to kent to now to raise their also on itv's on saturday. Stop the to i. Five the unit three unit boost today stakes a group three over six films. This is why penn as well wings of wool sense to nymph fidora. Four one scots grace. Ninety two hierarchy to unfairly signed you five to one difficult justin or is it well. It's it's interesting certainly. I'm not sure that that there's a core group horse in this race. It take a little bit of winning. 'em the one i like actually is fierce angel who thought ran traveled really well to a point in fife running list of race at newbury last time before just got a little bit flattered ran on late again. Looks to me like the step six senator. Ideally and and she she she looks. She looks potential value road. Five to one category for john shows all the time the supposed bruce but not not good she she she stands out in. She takes plenty of boxes this race. Seven justin confident on phillies angel. Girod quite like hierarchy in this bruce. I think that's he's gonna get quite nice tones this race from nympheas dory's good draw installed to which can be quite important in six furlong races around kempson because of course they pretty much straighten to abend expected inventory blasting away from stole four and or she mirth he would just Sitting behind on hierarchy and hopefully pick pick them off lights. Yeah very impressive. When when he wanted to salisbury last time as well in in a good time so hierarchy is the one for me thank you we move onto the tooth forty at kensington. It's the unit september stakes group three mile and a half five runners and some big nine ta hachem the very progressive alchemies. Eleven ninety eight to eleven eleven. So i i wish he was hamish. She's eleven to four outbox. Fifteenth to foxtel tense. One and lovelier prints of ironies tens. One start with eugene. How come a good thing. I do think the hukou win this racial who come as i like to call him. I think he's a very very good old. He probably just post between group one and group su class. It'd be interesting to see whether they can pick up a group with him abroad later in the season though talking about going for the canadian international where it would join and if a win this impressively maybe it wouldn't be it wouldn't be entirely out of the christian Each just better than they saw of opposition group three. I think he is at least the group to if not one os and he should win but cozy. It's on so. I can't say i'll be back in. Just watching him burst. Roddy justin what jamaica. The five hair agree pretty much everything that gee wrote about him possibly may be the only one you'd be if you're if you're searching for a reason to maybe half oppose a talking back to a mile and a half i think in modern flight might on sixers properties his best trip you could see him potentially being maybe a course next year if he if he stayed in training bus even with a heavy should be good lease splendid. That's the tv action loads multi coming just jiffy. Members club is the ultimate resource for racing enthusiasts and punches brought to you by the racing post get access to the racing post digital newspaper everyday from nine pm plus exclusive content including expert tips analysis form study tools and more head to racing post dot com and click. Subscribe to find out more. Welcome back to the funnel. Final part the racing post weekend post cost. It's bruce meaning tony's just handling and it's graham roadway. We've done the tv action on saturday. Let's see what else the boys fence we've got the rest of the rest of ask the rest of kempson. Then we've got thirsk We've also got strap fit over the states we've got an evening meeting at wolverhampton and ova audit and wexford and navin. Is that way you're gonna focus your attention. Justin don't give you a nap. Wipe it tell us anything else away from the it becomes the you think alyssa's should be backing on saturday. A concentrated on the irish action novel on the flood in wexford over jones. Tomorrow it's time for you. Don't forget now. Okay justin we. We always the golden rule on the price cost you always at the time of the rice. None of this not just israel. The novi triassic. I remember you were big on that back in the day. And it's it's very much a the next week in the very much a before the lord mayor show before champions weekend next weekend with us a couple of interesting ones with navin tomorrow at probably the most interesting runner the cowardice jeff kidder runs in staying home to get the very last race today at four forty five jeff catered of course On the fred winter at cheltenham before going on to the group one with grade one champion forty two hordley punchestown run poorly on his one. Start on the flat since when Norman source of pretty much older farm killarney back in the summer butts of america. Sixty three eighty hit expects. He's kobe hostile sequence on the flat and has a pretty good opportunity in there tomorrow. Lessen the four forty five as the final race of the day. But if you if you go back to the one fifty which is a sprint handicap. There's one i like here Called ball in the doc trained by denis hogan la- her only previous wins both over this course in trip are she was she was second off. Seventy six of the curragh. In the summer of last year. She's dropped tomorrow. Sixty two. But i thought you very nice race in a sprint handicap at the car last month when finishing fifth in a field was sort of a beginning of a return to form and of america. Sixty two she should she could we. Well capable of winning that over wexford. It's a jumping card and not many stars on show a one interesting one runs in the one thirty five which is a hundred and it's a horse called down the senate for done the center trained by edito brady as one four on the bones over fences has gone up to the mark of one hundred and twenty-two over fences but running eighty-seven over hurdles are with paul town and broke to ride a could. Well know you can say the is eighty seven for a reason but It's improved out of all recognition over fences during the summer. Ones could welby as sniff there on the last race alexa. Four thirty which is a three mile one furlong handicap chase glenn quinn castle trauma mark and brazil and owned by jake. Mcmasters going for a hat-trick victories. Having won over three of us coming in three one that killed eggen lasts twice and think that'll take the beating their brilliant. Thanks justin that jeff kid is really interesting because inbetween winning a chilling unpunished on at ferry more could he achieve next year of jumps. He's as i mean it was constantly underwriting lousy. It was so. I mean he's a horse. Who who who is very much you know if you owned him. You've been taught to think he's gonna have a hell of a season when it's a underrated boys connections as much as as much as anybody. You want to see him doing a great one. Where now first week. In march i i would imagine. No meat is going to train them as a champion horse and see how they get on brennan very interesting. Nice to talk about jump racing again. I must admit already. Jiro got for open. Yeah i got a couple of for you. Thirsk in the to fifteen i. I'll be very disappointed. If toscan can't follow up is victory at the track last time over. The course in distance and eat was quite promising. First time out in a decent newmarket maiden at the july coke zero waste quite hot maidens those ones at the july mayton and e. bill on that promise win going off all. Its on second time. I think he's among charl- charlie who's best to euros mythical dances in africa dolphin and charlie appleby so hopefully that will help at a price on sasken might boxer the appalachian in the three twenty five at i another course in distance when i was acquainted presser that way that moss born were one at the track last time out for david baron and connor beasley is shown a liking for the coast. Wasn't he's previous run A second there over mile when he was only headed lay on so i think the dropping trip really suited him last time out and i think he can follow up that victory in the three twenty five months bone. If you say in that writes willie. John germain willie john hype around hit devoted to. Yeah yeah remember that years ago but it's funny isn't it when they when they changed tablets. It's always so heart. Something doesn't always click with them so you'll mind must work better the mind about that of i'd be horrified view if it does okay. Let's get these saturday. Naps is will not be. Be stop with justin. I'm handling if you only having one bound saturday. Justin which all should it be this fully all spruce three hundred overweight acquaintance in the three o'clock nevin. There's a philly cole. Impeached alexander the jessica harrington who actually burst the last day she ran the listed race acnes but If all as well. I think. I think she's pretty highly regarded chicagoan a nursery all seventy eight. There's there's no. There's no point back in the hearts of tiffin horse ever again. Ryan pitched alexander for justin in the three o'clock novel. Gerard mine is a vino vic tricks in the to twenty at high high dot very hopeful that win that race. Vino vic tricks excellent stuff. Let's turn our attention very quickly to sunday. Some good rice and by the is decent. So it's gotten the garbage stakes which is listed rice up at york and then this jump racing perth and font while but the main focus of attention if it's quality or after is over in paris the to forty eight launch on sundays the pre mulan. We were hoping for three white tussle between bide and snow lands and poetic flavor. Poetic flair is not running however the to do stand their ground. They're up against november and also victim dorm order of australia. And that one stay with might look e- fernandez is become very disappointing but will not just out. Goodbye is do you think he's good enough to beat. Snow lands in girard. I do think that he's very very good. Could be cookie. Exceptional couldn't the way that he's been win and he's been doing it Very very well and rising push writing of last time out hundred twenty four for group. Free win is absolutely yesterday comical for that. Gripe is the same rate in that stall mangled winning the july cup so impressively so al handicappers were evidently usually impressed by by eight coach. This is a massive step up in grade as we saw that was new group. Freeze fresh drama. As a proper great one is snow lance and being obviously the pick of the respite. I caught night. Lopo fernandes as well. I think the east quite goes might might be able to steal a great one summer on the line. It's not so nice is that you're you're just gonna to tune in on sunday afternoon. You just she sunday rose. You're going to sit down on. You'll be really excited to see a real potential superstar lineup. Because that's easy. Just ease that silvo. She gets you excited saw. Hope he wins. And i hope doesn't disappoint us by aid. But you not going to be having a bad and i know a very show price i think. Actually if you wanna planet you have to lay down you well. We'll say the expert slightly disappointed that Jimbo just pulled out Pilots fled justin. Is part of your jobs arranging bolger every so often and quite know why. Oh jim jim. You might be on the worst terms of now. The last time. I actually saw him he was. I made a comment and analysis about officially went up and he came to me the next day. Would you go to gym bulge. Voice go didn't say very much but he came to me with to print attendants and said am my want to have a look at those. It was it was the analysis that i wrote about the host. I'm more i'm more say. In very clean words that he'd be that the money had gone to gone too soon. Fade away to finish of seven and he also the the the the comments and ruining which i don't i think brian let me get good levels. And both mortis read the same. Obviously thought i. I will take a look at thousand comeback to laze around three deserted brother. Be ours go. Rock wins the mood. Line just Sorry to try to totally. Yeah i i with jiro this morning by could be a very good horse date and although it is a massive step up to group one it looks to me to be a pretty winnable. Groupon snow lantern is obviously a huge dangerous. austrailia is not going to get to that Is not gonna get the ground that he wants it. I think it's probably going to be erased. Set up to for you to to kill them with speed at the end of these wants to take the baby. Lovely stuff gentlemen. Thank you very much just in lovely to have you back on the show. Do not leave it three years until we speak to you again. Jiro thank you very much. Indeed my friend. Great case fernando brought on by the way just some bookmakers roofing four places on that so. That's good isn't it. I did see that. Yeah that that's very tempting. Isn't it absolutely okay. Thank you very much indeed listening. Not he's back on monday looking back on election and looking ahead to what we've got next weekend which we will cover it in greater depth next friday because he champions weekend and the legislature. Stu join us for that. Do bet safely. Good luck have a great weekend.

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Back to the movies, plus Run, Unorthodox, Michael Chabon and Paul Rudd

"The. Crap is Andrea Young at the console and this is cal Quinn in the engine room. That's exactly where he belongs. stripped to the waist covered in coal dust your. Masses shively niche shoveling coal in fairness. On this absurd of the classes we're talking. Run, we're also talking an Orthodox. We're talking cinemas and drive, INS and the belated return thereof an. We're talking, believe it or not. We also talking a little bit about easy, but we're also talking about a film called. The catcher was a spy. Cow Somebody to listen Andrew. How's your lockdown proceeding as before? We're all here working being school in the home. Enough of that. Tell me it'd be watching stuff. Don't you've been reading stuff? Listen? You're not interested in anything that I read. I mean I'm extremely interested. In Reading Gogol, Kafka Dostoevsky all the all the lockdown. Think you lying. And VINCA Andy CAPP. The collected comic strips. Handicap. And I have a couple of programs on the streaming services that you may be interested to hear one of them is TV series called a think Unorthodox, but it might be called. It's called Unorthodox. Okay they got. It's a common tale. There's not a lot of originality unit, but it easy interesting because it again looking at a community that most people don't have a lot of experience of looking at the the way they leave, and looking at the the rules and the Shibboleth and the expectations of both sixes within that community. Let's let's just assume that our listens are so unfamiliar with said community that have no idea what show what you're talking about. What I'm talking and is GONNA. Say you know what you haven't told it? It's called. Orthodox or Set, in an Orthodox, Jewish community in Williamsburg or is a non Orthodox Jewish community, which is in Brooklyn, which was once a greater and largest city, The New York across the water. So. There is an arranged marriage as all marriages are I can't and it is doomed to be unhappy and the young woman who is arranged remarried escapes, and so it's only four episodes I think and the whole the whole Driving part of the plot is will. She forced to return. She's scheduled to Germany where her mother who is escaped. The community as well not long after she was born. Lives in Berlin and stimpy. The feeling is that she's gone to building to see her mother. She's escaped her marriage. Mother escape to marriage and a couple of. I would say. In any other movie, you'd send a couple of heavy leads, but no, her husband, who mummy's boy, non pry and advocate his cousin after to fit your back. Biscuit. Did it you? Need to sound like I was in prison. But I left without telling anyone. Why did you leave? Expected too much. The shot get. It, it became. League. Nantwich undermined. Right come from. This says don highly disciplined Zombie. Just goes on a good wife in love. Sycophant to Mitch. To get as far as possible from a committee. So. Help me. What really excited? Enjoyable for me is almost entirely in Yiddish. which is a a a A. Not My native tongue, no, it's not a language spoken very often in cinema, and so I found that very exciting. It's it's. She makes up with a bunch of kids that are some kind of performing arts college a little bit like Fang they're all glowing and lusty and shiny and tanned in healthy and run around, and it's. And they have a great time together and A. You, reckon, it's an eighty four episode watch. You don't have to commit to much yourself to the story in. The story ends. Thank thank you so you're not gonNA. You're not gonNA think season to well. I would be surprised at a season to well I think prepared to be surprised I okay. ended in a really satisfying. Why did that needed? No, it didn't feel not. On agreeing with you, but You know when people in the series. That was satisfying. That's usually a signal for the commissioners to go. Let's do it again. Let's do a big little lies season two because it really needed it now I could watch. Last season two I watched the first one through gnashing teeth, and that was enough. I thought I could not watch that second one now. Look. I think it was definitely a case of diminishing returns, and I suspect that if they do a second season season of Unorthodox, it will be the same. The thing, the SH. The show is that it's actually by stone a memoir. These Deborah Feldman the and you know what. Everybody's into these because I mean like. Everyone in English speaking world. WHO USES GOOGLE? This is huge because I went to look up something about Deborah. Kerr okay then Scott's actress. I was thinking is temperature Scott. Since gone couldn't remember so I typing Debra, Debra. Filming comes up paying. What are the? Thank you very? Well I wouldn't have thought that what seems to be a fairly small production would have been taken over the Internet so that you type in the word Deborah and you get Deborah Feldman's name, and as author of this memoir that this show is based on Blues Released A. Couple months ago, maybe seven or eight weeks ago on net flicks, and it was briefly it was the show that captured the imagination I mean you know Netflix. I think in part because they they a now published on on site. What are the top trending shows? It reinforces. It's like Oh. This is the one that everybody's watching so I'd better watch it. You know so. It's sort of like an artificially created water cooler kind of dynamic. so that everybody's watching targeting I must watch tagging. Everybody's watching Unorthodox I must watch on rocks. So it's sort of self. Perpetuating Anyway Unorthodox was in that space. So when it was released, so that's why. There's a lot more people searching for Debra Feldman Rafeh Deborah Kerr at the moment so. As. Look I have to say that the A. Semi surprises about. The COVID, nineteen lockdown of having everybody in the house all at once all doing whatever work that they do one consequences, I am Phallus informed about what is happening in the world right now than I ordinarily would be. I haven't the time to look at new sites and where I would normally be doing housework and listening to the news and listen to the radio. That's off because that is disturbing to somebody having meetings on zoom. And so I'm completely way behind what is going on in the world I know the tip of the iceberg. Well I have nice excuses, but. You Up to date. Do you feel yourself up today? With what with with world events all? Trending on Netflix. Oh! I'm watching in fascination as America consumes itself. That's that's slow. I was about five days behind that. The killing it that. Trump is president right with the murder of that man by the Minneapolis police. I was. Behind behind that. Backpack to to. AN UNORTHODOX HERE UNORTHODOX. I I really. Pets know in real life, but when watching entertainment I, relish the mammoth ripped I I, love seeing a character who is extensively mile an masculine. Owned and ruled by his mom or his grandma. You're talking about the Yankee currently Yankee Great Night Yakubu. Notice good as moisture. Stir is a pretty good. Gangsta. Laid like. He does one thing is actually expected a lot more violence and conflict in this show as Bailey any. I'm lucky sits down next to st one point and I went. So what happens, but it's quite a confronting shocking and I. Thought Oh God! This is going to happen and it doesn't. Of course it doesn't and. It's all the acting is is is really it's great. There's nothing wrong with this role. It's really except of course the premise that a go barely out of her teens can be forced to get married to somebody, and neither of them have any idea what to do an just. He goes to his mom. This is unbelievable or what not totally? I've seen documentaries on various cults and also Docs Jewish communities and this is entirely believable i. don't know anyone who lives in one, but I have seen the they have been sin. Is They haven't? Done the way you are. So it's completely believed so anyway. What was going to say about this? Is that in terms of the potential for a second season? I think it would be a terrible thing because what I think is most compelling about an Orthodox. As the the sort of I guess observational documentary element of it where you're inside the Orthodox community and seeing world that you ordinarily see at all, because it is so closed and I, it has echoes for me of say the Amish Community in witness, and and. A dynamic within it and. You know I will no doubt. Well a would risk the ire of members of the community. If any of them more likely to listen to this podcast, but I think we're fairly safe there. How you wish all by comparing them to the Amish by comparing the dynamics that are apply to those in the handmaid's tale this very very. Restrictive you know world in which a woman's value is determined almost solely by her reproductive capacity and and I found I found it like gripping. Horrifying and You know really fascinating, but what would say is that where the show is least appealing to me is the stuff in Berlin where it kind of is like a fantasy like an Feng itchy. The fame thing. Yeah, and I just thought. If. There is a second season. It's going to be about what what St does next in building, right? It's going to be about the life. She has after leaving the community, and it will no doubt have echoes of what she misses a you know in. The community in some way shadowing her. With a literally, all sort of you know psychologically, but it will be predominantly I. think be structured around what she does. Next and building I think that's actually the least interesting aspect of it. I just want to share Haas who plays a young Israeli. Actress is fantastic in this. I agree with that. I have nothing would add on this topic. Okay actually. I've got hate. Start on this topic. I'm just. Very very quick thing author who are no longer enjoy reading Michael Chaban wrote a book called the. Secret Yiddish Policemen's Union. A combination of those words sit in Sitka Alaska and it is as a few can't factuals with what happened at the end of the second war and so on, but it's. Of course an alcohol. Soden detective who split up with his wife and his partner and case, but it sit within. A an Orthodox world in Alaska and his civic world. With some repatriation is such thing in the future. In Sitka I don't think so, but I believe that around the time of where where we situate on your newish homeland at the end of the day and hundreds is. Riley or We'll yeah now astray at definitely was was one. Came to Melbourne and anyway. You sit in the northern territory so anyway. This is a really enjoyable book and I was reminded of. All the things that I know. Anything that I know. About the the world of all dokes chooses is from that book, and from a couple of documentaries, and the reason that bookings is because Michael Chaban Radha. A? Sarcastic and satirical review of a book called had a say things in Yiddish or something. He's like he wants to know how he wants to know about. This language now speaks anymore anyway, and you got all this mail on it and his his dame younger to write a novel. It's GonNa be all about it, and you're going to have to read it, and it's wonderful book. It's two or three times even but. Anyway. Something if people are interested in reading and have an interest in the Orthodox world. Secret Yiddish Policemen's union or spin around me the wrong order for the secret policeman's ball, isn't it? Isn't that that would be? Going to get me to say that. Say I won't say it. Right there, if I had arms, length of the basketball player I could reach. That could reach. And say it's. Salesman Michael Chaban he's a will nine American author. You'll be able to find it. A series that you should possibly catch while you still have your Fox toll free subscription. Run have you come across this now? I haven't heard of it right so weaver. Are you familiar with? I'm Donald gleason. CAME TO A. Couple of things recently you might like the Sherry, handsome. Red headed man he's. She's old and very handsome. The show is basically about to. They're they're in the room late thirties, so they they? Used to. University. Split up in the probably is around nineteen twenty and they haven't seen each other for years, but the had a deal. And the deal was that at any time. Either of them could text the other with a single word run. And if the other responded with the same word Ron, then they would make a grand central station in New York at a particular time and. Guess what it begins it begins with. Merit Weaver's character receiving text message run, and she's A. She's being harangued by her husband to make sure that she's home, such and such a time so that the air conditioning guy or the fridge guy or whatever it is. Annoying husband. Paul seen on. No, she has come home. Be there when the train comes to fix the air conditioner. Oh my God. It's like it's like she's living in an Orthodox Jewish community. It's almost. See. Babies left right and center, poor woman merit wave, my anyway already with. She takes banger run and so. Off. and. It's a short series seven half hour episodes. Eighties. By and large, if it you call it comedy I, wouldn't site laugh out loud funny? or at least not consistently, it has some funny moments. It's more of a kind of character thing and a sort of a push poll. About which is this guy whose more committed is either of the? Just playing a game. is either of them being fully truthful either to themselves or to their new new partner? You old partner? I should have told you. Is that when I texted you I was. Getting hammered in the bar of a crappy hotel, which is nowhere near Scotland. I had this moment of clarity. That there wasn't a single person. I ever met an entire life. I ever wanted to see again. It mostly takes place on a train, and that in itself is kind of unusual for America. Americans don't big on trying so. This is trans. A transcontinental train you get lots of. Peeled back aerial shots and you go. Wow, trying to be a nice way to say America if you can somehow hover above the train I landscape because it looks pretty awesome. Drone is a great way. Drone is to anyway really. I! Don't know if you're familiar with. Archie Panjali who? Played calendar on the good wife. She turns up in this A. Feeble what Phoebe will bridge remember that posh woman. We're all. Just like. It all makes sense. She turns out as a sort of a a small US woman. No control impulses of as an American actually. and. she's, she's involved as one of the producers of this because her producing partner Vicki Jones who. With whom she made. fleabag is this is her shot so? Does. It have some of the same deny. At a stretch, she'd say yes. I kind of think it's. It's a different show two different town. It's far more contrived. I think them fleabag is it doesn't it doesn't have the sort of like the roar nurse of fleabag? It's much more of a kind of almost like a high concept kind of thing like. Let's imagine this this happens. You know that kind of mad paper. On. And it's all contained within this. You know this really. Is it really annoying at times. It's really annoying at times. It's really fun. I look I. Think I quite liked it without loving it's It's. It's one of those things that I think it's. It's got good stuff in it. It's a neat little concept. Not all of it works a thing. It probably really hits. It's stride around episode four five. Serve as a bit of muddling along the first three. I think that. Where you kind of. I actually found Donald gleason character pretty an act. Actually I found that the characters pretty annoying at times. But also kind of empathize with him too so. Eight Scott that you know that sort of tug of war, going on where it is I, don't like them I. Actually do like them and. So it's kind of intriguing. It's a it's a neat little try without being a raging success, I think. I think I wanted to feel. one of those ones real-life sitting real lack of based on a real person. Who? Co Bio or by thank you called. The catcher was a spy obviously. Labored attempts at a play on the term Ri-. Catching knows nothing in any kind of nothing. Nothing similar at all. Does he wear this daca capitalist? Nothing He. Is a position in baseball. The people who aren't familiar with the game that originated as rounders in England in the days of your, the catcher wears a whole lot of a panorama and scratches behind the Batsman, the better and send signals to the picture of what type of ball thrown. Okay, it's an important job. This guy is also a professor and a great intellect. And somehow he finds himself caught up in the. In the Second World War, the hours is the precursor to the CIA and tasked with going and. Assassinating a German scientist who they're worried is going to deliver some secrets right at the very tail end of the war, where the Soviets and the Americans are trying to hoover up as many Nazi sciences, they can for their their own nuclear programs. He's played by Paul Rudd, Catcher, who was a spy, and he has a secret, and it's a secret that could cause his undoing, and has caused many men's undoing involved in espionage and government work of the past hundred, two, hundred, three, hundred, as many men have been compromised having this secret. And through the sexuality. AM. You you. You saw right through me. He knew what I was talking about. I thought was keeping things pretty. He's a friend of Dorothy. You're saying I would never use that expression. I'd sad that expression. Can I'm not saying that I'm gates. People using I just wouldn't use may end of persuasion who use that expression it's. Just not using anyway, it's really good. It's true. It's on the television on net flicks on the lights. Paul Rudd. He's a funny guy. He's always kind of the same easygoing mankind of swept up in things, not not much of A. Catalyst, but these is in this sort of a passive character and he's he's kind of a strange mixture between being passive and non passive. He's unmarried to a woman who lives with. And it's very touching relationship that they have and he. He characters is fascinating, really fascinating, and as both as a baseball player both as A. An intellectual and a university professor, and also as A. quals spy. The fuel end and you really want to know more about this man, and you WanNa Hoover up everything that you can find about in because it just tantalizes you and and leaves many questions unanswered which I like I like questions unanswered, and some of them will remain unanswered. No matter what you try to dig up yourself the. If, we have a total about the TV series living with yourself. Now in which Paul Rudd plays a man who? Is Feeling Pretty. Glum about his life and he goes off. At the suggestion of a work colleague he goes to this goes in has a SPA treatment and it turns out with what the SPA. Treatment is. Is actually a cloning, so you have mentioned that? It was funny. It's very funny. It's very dark sort of existential comedy. Bicycle it all goes horribly awry in. Character Miles emerges from the treatment. The new miles is there, but then the old miles instead of being actually dade as is supposed. In the forest wrapped in plastic fights his way out of it, and he stumbles back to his to his life only to find that there's another one of him there and They basically fight to see who has the right to? Occupy the space. It's it's good. It's really good. But. That's that's A. That's a story in which Paul. Rudd plays somebody who's both passive, and not because the new miles is much more dynamic character so. Love that story. A you. How do you feel about the reopening and people sitting in a chess formation well they. They reopened on June twenty two. Well they're allowed to June twenty two in Victoria. Which? With with the maximum, fifty people, and that puts him ahead of a of a sites other sites. Some of us will have already sort of announced that they're going to happen sooner. I think even from June so but with twenty people and twenty people. It's really probably not viable for many cinemas to open, so I don't know how many a guy to be open in this first spell June, twenty two at fifty starts to become feasible for the American to. I If you know the still have to abide the full. Months person per four square meters kind of special arrangement, so they might a lot of them will not get fifty people. They won't be able to have that many in their depending on the size of a cinema. The the messages. As, we're recording this. My understanding is that the majors the village toits reading readings event cinemas. Probably not going to happen on that day, because their business model is built around big Hollywood product, and yeah, that is not going to be coming through until probably July sixteen at the earliest, the still a lot of anticipation around the idea of Christopher Nolan's film, Tenet opening on that dight. Whether it really does open on. That date will have to widen say, but at the moment it's still. It's been locked to July sixteen for a very long time. There Obviously, a talismanic quality to Christopher Nolan Guy, who is absolutely committed to cinema, absolutely committed to film. Is One of the great proponents of lodge screen format, including I'm ex as a great sort of symbolic value to him being the WHO reopened cinemas around the world. But the reality is and this is why question whether we'll actually I've been on that diet is that? The won't be able to maximize. Their return on that film in the way that they would ordinarily because they won't be able to fill out cinemas so normally. Big Blockbuster Films Open in for two weeks three weeks. They do gangbusters business. Multiple screens and then start scaling back in order for this to even begin to make sense I'd have to have it on virtually every screen at a maximum of fifty people per auditorium. And do so for quite some time and I. Just can't see happening. It's like. To what degree do they want to have the symbolic value of this? To such a degree that the. Willingly right off the return on investment that they would expect on Christopher Nolan thriller. Anyway to go to the question of. How do I feel about it? I went to the drive in last night so I went down to Dandenong you're against it. You want to stay in the TAP. Into the driving for a very very long time, and it was fun I've got to say Yeah I. Remember it in Red Line was the last film I saw at the drive. I could not tell you what the last film was that I saw I could. Actually I went to see land pop-up drive in Docklands a few years ago and going to say it was not a good experience. The screen wasn't high enough here. We'll. Look I love the film, but I went with a bunch of kids who are board rigid by it by Szekely climbed on top of the car. DiCaprio's wheels through the car park ran away. I really thought it was just a complete. Are realized that modern cars like the sidelines and not great. You know because there are Giga pillars you know there's. The. The windscreen slopes more so this hence the tendency these days to back car in and to foot the tailgate, and what's the format why? Station wagons did that when I was a kid? Right? Okay School. Yeah, there's a lot of people doing it now. And even last night, so this is Monday June one as we're recording this on June two it was it was a very very cold wet night. The driving was packed. It was probably probably about one hundred and fifty cows in a still that still go right, but it's. It can accommodate fifty at capacity. Okay, so it was. It was like a slow start, though perfectly happy with that because I wanted to make sure they got all these systems in place for social syncing and so on. People had got up and. Buddy. AL, it's a bit cold for that that they up in dunes and mattresses and Baynes and whatever it's. It's a fun loving the fun thing to like it. So I I can see that for the. Next little period I think the the handful I think there are sixteen drive in cinemas around Australia. Still operating isn't that amazing at such a low number and yet you would think there would be none. Yeah, well. There are three in three in Victoria, but seventy three in. What you call the Greater Melbourne Area Dandenong Coburg drama and a handful in New South Wales, and the first one to reopen was actually in Brisbane. The athlon drive in well, it's not it's been in Beenleigh. The drive in Open I. Think my one, so it's been going. But well, it's perfect, isn't it? You're in your car. You, completely spatially distant from the canucks, and if you're happy to go and see a film that you may have seen before it's been around for a while. It was playing before shutdown than the drive in is a great option, a really good option thirty bucks for a car. It's like it's pretty good value going to the Oscars I. Know you've got four people that I mean that's. You. Get some. Thirty. Bill I mean really? This is not an expensive way to go and see movie screen. It's it's pretty graphic. In terms of back to the cinema. On cain to do it. I think if I feel like you know the rights of transmission, a low enough and. Social distancing as observed in cinema and I think I'm probably comfortable with it now. I mean probably more so than was a month ago. I Ching to see films on on the big screen again definitely and see how many. Bands and that still hypothetically be my thing that's going to be a long way off I mean I think you'll be able to go and see live music in a room where there's know. Twenty to fifty people spiced out, and it's a short performance, and then the crowd turns over the next bunch. That's happening, but unfortunately I don't think that's going to help the venue. Owners who have all sorts of bills and costs. Or any, if you can get like three sittings for in an evening, and give you cumulatively a couple of hundred people, it might help to some degree, but. Alcohol. Venues mostly my money so. People aren't going to be hanging around drinking so. Neither not they're going to have one or two drinks, and then they'll be gone. That's right. That's right. I mean I think I think. I think like big events like big concerts live music festivals live theater. The likes of the Harry Potter play I mean I. Think these things are a long way off I. Really do they are, and that's that's the thing I'm the thing that I'm most concerned about an interesting one, hundred, twelve, zero, one hundred nineteen thousand people apparently a weekend. Go and see live music in Victoria when it was happening, but that's grand final a weekend. That's a lot of people, and so it's it's an industry deserves at least as much support as as any other.

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The Squadcast  Episode 3: The Tail of the Killer Whale

The Squadcast

36:16 min | 2 years ago

The Squadcast Episode 3: The Tail of the Killer Whale

"Hey, everybody Rodman and Michael. And we're back with the third of squad cast presuming critter school Bullard vendors to, to recap our previous episode. We had our usual Louis Grech, the classic running grow to honor, not to meet new kind, but the coup. You know, we know their birds and their Muslim over the running. So next time New Mexico for our all that jazz, catch on the previous episode went over our animal Beijing class with the rats and are rat misconception. Exactly. They did not spread the plague. It was the fleas s gotta remember that, that good info. And of course, I water conservation tips, you know, turnoff that fossil brush your teeth up feature appliances bucket underneath your shower. All that good stuff. Thank you. Moving into this week. Let's let's talk about our current animal the week. Now, we've got we've got a big beauty here. Who do we have this week, Michael orca or killer word or? So pretty well known. Right. We've all seen the black and white coloration, you'll see the movies Free Willy and whatnot s- Free Willy is a class, but that that's back in the day talking about today though. Or goes as, as we just said are killer whales, but they're not really technically whales, right? They're not they're not. Well, they are they are, they are in the sense that, you know, dolphins are part of the wheel family. They're technically in the group of two twelve with dolphins porpoises someone, but they're not actual like, Bailey Wales which would be like the blue whale and the ones that were most common. No. So it is kind of like a squares wreck time tangles thing, where, you know, all doll dolphins are in that will family, but they're still like a subset of it. So that's what the killer whale falls. It's technically you know, in that dolphin family being tooth whale, and their close. Relative is not away. It's just the snow in dolphin. Yeah. So. So they are not Wales or all. But that whole family of dolphins whales is in what big I'm sorry for the dolphins whales are in what bigger group of animals during the bird family. They're they're mammal mammal. But what type of mammals sedation? You know this jazz sedation. So sedation are pretty much marine mammals that's gonna be your killer whales your will your Wales in general your dolphins. Mom, there's another group of somewhat marine mammals. I think you tell me about the last time you remember not the whales. Now the dolphins. You're just throwing all this new information on me all the oh, this word. All right. I'll give you a hint the paint. These who's in that canape family. And that'd be true sales. True seals. Yes. Walruses. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, yeah. So the few different types of marine mammals, but wonder, focusing on our this attains the ones spend the majority of that time in the water. No whales dolphins really don't live on land. Whereas seal walrus, you know, they do the ocean are the ocean of go. That's, that's a good one. I haven't heard that before if we wanna know where their shelters at their shelter shelter. Habitat, go system. It's really ocean. Because killer whales workers are really found globally. Right. Another found from the Arctic waters tropical waters, even though you know they're not gonna find them, you know, on a beach in the Bahamas. They're still rolling those waters further at sea. Yes, sir. Exactly. What what do they eat? What do whales? What, what does the work eat well to answer that question? We go to the family, there, the other marine mammals. They love to eat seals. They will eat Wales. They'll eat fish. Sometimes. And then some even attack sharks called the killer whale that is where they're called the killer whale. Yes. Title can be some somewhat misleading because it really has nothing to do with humans. Right. I never Pran us. They don't see us as food and the reports of killer whale attacks on humans are very far distant between there's any really known taxi from extremely extremely uncommon. So they get that name from being such strong creditors to the other marine mammals in their categories, bigger Wales to great white sharks pitch cetera. The cool thing about them being that they worked together in a group almost the same way like a pack of wolves. Whereas, you know, work together to corner in track down at target or do the same thing. They a group of them as a pod, and these can be up to about forty individuals or so, and they will work together find that bigger prey corner. And then, you know get the job. That is a lot of Wales. That's a lot of Wales, and it's really cool, because they're extremely social animals are superintendent second largest brain of all, marine mammals. So we know that meal. Very social their brain has strong senses. They can do good problem solving. So that kind of communal connection social aspects can help them, you know, thri because they can take down those bigger bigger prayed and whatnot. What is our lifespan? What Israelites man? Well, if we look at just kind of general clue nature, you know, larger animal longer life. So the killer real is no exception of this, there, about twenty six thirty two feet. Can get you know about the size of school bus. Yeah. And our license yet. Exactly. It's pretty bad. That's so the lifespan reflects that right? It's about fifty to eighty years, a lot of that is kind of, like, you know, not it'll hazy people the exact numbers because it's so hard track them down hard. You know, those estimates of our time found this whale in this ocean. But we check back five years later. It could be totally different. You know they travel all the time migrating patterns. So the oldest actually a killer whale that lived up to one hundred and three so, yeah, it's a loss time. So. Definitely is something where it's fifty to eighty but it's definitely possible for a little bit longer than that. So, and all of that information was like their types of 'prave. That makes a PECS predator. What's Pittsburgh for Michael inform? The listeners they're the top of the food chain. It's that simple. You know notion employers. There's a code code. The apex predator is pretty much, you know, that animal no other animal in that environment. Ecosystem can top. Right. You know you got WALE, the killer whale, you've got bears Tigers have to worry about a predator. Exact they are the predator. Exactly. You know, there are some animals that can be predator or prey depending on the other animal interacting with right, like a leopard gecko is gonna be the predator of an insect. But at the same time, it's going to be the prey of snake or a hawk or something. Right yet, but a killer whale in apex, predator doesn't have to do with that at all. They're like our everything zone. It's either my prey or we don't even interact right now. They do have a cool interaction though, because what's the other apex predator that lives in the oceans? Let me shark. It'd be like, what we consider like a great white shark, right? Yeah. Well, killer whales actually prey on great white sharks. A lot of studies recently that are saying that, you know, great whites fear killer whales. So as much as apex predators, they still got someone else. It's got a little bit of the opposite, because some sharks are terrifying. Looking exactly till well, you know, Free Willy. Very KOMO kiss sharp, yet of the ones that are actually fearful in that in that scenario, and then ask for their conservation. It's, it's really a little kind of a known their data deficient. So that pretty much means you know, we don't have accurate numbers to gauge the population and that goes back to, you know, to migration patterns being difficult to track animals, in the sea, like that on, but we do know that there are some threats that we can mill work towards the depletion of their food spills, especially air water noise pollution, and a lot of people don't think about the noise, but, you know, killer whales their hearings one of their strongest senses, right? So it's like noise pollution sound can believe damage your hearing, and messes up with one of their super good senses, or one of the one of the us hearing for what's that Michael? And sorry I was going to say that there. No, you're already done with their, their sense of hearing is better than cats and dogs. It is. And what are these, they use at the location? Exactly. Yeah. So again, means they produce sounds, and then they lessons for listen for those echoes to balance back. I'll tell they detect prey other animals and see their environment under see other workers startling. And so north blue really is a big Frith to them, because it can mess up hearing, it can mess with location. They might Abadie wheel might not be able to get back to the, you know, the pod pod. God it makes you think, like hot people. Aliens. About whatever it was ever. Anyway. I did find an interesting fact on killer, Wellstone not have that smelling Oregon. Oh, so it's really just like the hearing. Yeah. So that's why of hearing. Yes, I it is pretty high better than cats and dogs. Like, like they're all right. You know he cannot see, but he can. Now, I don't know how dare he's a daredevil. Yeah. Is it will they have a really long just station period? I do seventeen months. So over a year, they're going to be pregnant. Right. It's a long time and they really only give birth every three to ten years. Yes. And it's only one offspring at a time. So even though those numbers are data deficient just that kind of basic info, tells us, do not be producing a huge rate rat or something. So not exactly a little bit of a longer time to get that pod together. So speaking of wells, oh, I went to Alaska about four or five years ago. Then I did some whale watching, which was really cool. Saw humpback, wells, gray wells, and really wish I remember. It was. I mean, that's where you like con-. Sure rely on vote. I went on a Bose as I've never been so seasick and. Oh my gosh, but it was it was worth it and it's amazing. How close to get to your boat, oats very curious saying, like you know, it's almost pretty much interact with yo y'all. I never forget it. So if you ever go to Alaska divide, refine, whatever since Alaska four hours, south of Anchorage. Yeah. A little tour there. And it was it was beautiful. Sounds like a good time. We'll watching. Remember, it sounds make an invitation know I. Story. Right. Sure. Thanks for that super conference. Okay. That brings us to our next little article. So that was our story time. But we saw reason article in the news about AirAsia about your, your homeland from Arizona your show. So but it's actually pretty cool. There's in Arizona the state game and fish department know the game and fish department for wildlife recently launched this program, so that there's about two dozen tribes in the state and they can make requests to the game and fish of department for animals that have died from, you know, poaching, natural causes real kill, etc. And it's really just trying make use of all the parts of the animal. Right. A something that kind of all know, cloak really that native Americans would use all parts of the animal rights. They would use the for the feathers and stuff for decoration for clothing, the bones for tools, etc. And of course all the meat and so now days, you know, a lot of them can't get that on their own. Right. And especially, you know, how society has worked so this new program pretty much less than sending a request. Hey, we need, you know, a few tortoise shells, a couple of these types of feathers, etc. And then when the people working for the department would go out on their normal routines, if they come across they come across these, deceased corpses. Carcasses. They can clicked. It frees it no do the proper. It's then they don't go to ways you know, her use for a good purpose. And I don't know. I guess, at some somewhat educational for sure. And if you think about it, you know, like normally these carcasses these animals on the side of the road. They're just going to end up rotting, they're gonna end up getting thrown where burn. But now all that can be using the tragedy to do this anyway, and have their spiritual, you know, headdresses haven't Spertzel tools. They need to make you know, eating cooking utensil, all this kind of stuff. So it's like we, you know make as much as we can out of what you're already has it's better. I think it'd be great if a lot more places did that kind of thing, 'cause I was looking into this article in Alaska, actually, for instance, I know that they do that with the most there, I'm so many moose has had. I know it's not it's not listen. I don't remember what it is. So there's a problem there with them getting hit by cars. So they started this program, and I know it took some funding, but they would basically have a raffle type thing and when they find a moose on the side of the road than they call someone in the actually be able to pick it up and being Kobo moose. Yeah. But if instead of animal going waste, you know, they're able to use the, the me because apparently, that's like a big thing, Alaska, for instance, like that, like to eat moose there. So they'll use in the, you know, the for and the Antlers, whatever so, yeah, it's great because it doesn't go to waste. Yeah. Foot, detect detour, detour fact when I was a child. I won three Ravel's yearly in a row at whole foods. Three raffles. They like a whole foods that same raffle Emory ref every three years at around gift basket for like hell. Head a whole bunch of stuff that kid would not want it motions for something that my mama's happy. Exactly my parents, any other name put hers and our mind that is my sister hers, Raffray would three years after the third year. They're like, okay, let's start giving Tarabi every year. Birt's be stuff out. No birds. His cool guys to be able to save the base yet. But yeah, this program is really a been working actively been trying to spread it out a little bit more so that, you know, places tribe in southern California Utah, Colorado, these surrounding areas can also connect with Arizona repository. So that if all the tribes in Arizona already happened. They need like a month or whatnot. Then the outside places are reaching out. Yeah. I think that's great. I mean by not exactly place. I don't think it affects the scavengers probably in the areas that they do see it. There's not a lot of more traffic example. Traffic's at the animals will always as part of their natural system. Leave other animals for scattered and whatnot. So like the ones that are kind of dive row kill cetera involving human society. They're like, especially enough an animal dies in the city Scousers gonna get that. Get thrown out by the yeah, exactly from the city and, you know, a lot of these native American tribes. They have like a spiritual connection to these animals. They want to. You know, put everything back to earth, where it comes from, and so on. And they have a lot of, you know, different like ceremonies that they can use these four and things like it allows them to keep on their traditions of. Yeah, I support for sure. Definitely awesome. I think it's pretty cool. No. That are. Right. So now that we wrapped up that little story. Why don't we move onto our misconception misconception? The Swiss what is the misconception? We want to debunk. So the misconception this week is that you get worse from frogs and toads, which so you're telling me if I hold a frog in a girls, which little. I won't get words. Andy maternity prints. No. What's the truth? What I what, what are more like apprentice on the frog I haven't seen it. Really? No. Not even any of them. There's more that one. I don't know. But this is I what are works. So words are those little bit of your skin in a more scientific term two sources a human virus? The virus, exactly Harlan factual, it's not it's not exactly rewarm, right. But it's kind of the same. I mean they ringworm is under the skin and then words are gonna like protrude out of that means not exactly temples, but its own same type of thing, right girls looking, yeah. Well, somebody took them don't get on the where humans. There's a whole forty humans out there. If you don't feel shamed. Okay. I understand your strokes, so warts are not caused by the frogs, or toads. It is human virus. So the pair toyed glance contain that nasty poison on frogs and toads. It can irritate your skin excetera but doesn't leave any long lasting. Along the water. Correct. And Soto technically for intels don't actually have words register glance. Yeah. That's just glance on toads. That's where they look as contain their end because was the so the difference between poison and venom. Again, so of course toads and frogs can be poisonous. It's not gonna Mus because it's from their skits poisonous, the touch the venom is the or the bite of the state yet scrapped so yeah, they're, they're not the ones. Waco with they don't blame it on. Exactly. Just take take shower. I wanted to go over since we're talking about that. The difference between frogs and toads. Everyone was like, we did the last week rats and mice always get kind of jumbled up mixed. There's little rodents can call them whatever I'm out there on the same exactly. But for those have some unique differences. So what's, what's one main one we can tell well, the obvious one is frogs have wet, smooth skin, and they're, they're more colorful, actually and toads have dried on be skit is Abby. So, yeah, if you get a feel for one, you know, if, if you're wonderful critics, what class, you know, to do some animal in Richmond. And some breeds amphibian you can tell is this frog toad skin, boomer everywhere. I thought a pretty cool. One is frogs, lay their eggs in clusters totally their eggs in pain, isn't it? Also, the consistency. Right. Those on way, I'm jumping the gun Hobo redundance improving when you're at yet so cluster. Chains of having to come across a little Prague leg in the in the wild you can tell he's closer together. Got a frog and toad. So and we do have that really cold video. Right. We do on the critics word YouTube channel. We have a lot of great comparison videos, one of which being that frog Resto exempt for just a quick, little minute. Boom, gut your facts in there. They wanna know more check it out, you trigger. But that leads us to the next one, which I was jumping the gun on reptiles amphibians. Right. You know, a lot of people would say, oh, that's a frog data reptile. That's incorrect. Right. And what is the difference? What is the difference world we've got reptiles, we get a lot of people mix them up because they're kind of, like we know they eggs, we know the kind of greenish in color, the kind of like we know the people that cold blooded, they don't have hair referral like a mammal woods. So we kinda all together. But there are some key differences between these groups one big one being that Vivian go through metamorphosis, right? Saying way a Caterpillar? And the butterfly are the same animal. But after a press of, of metamorphasized. Days after you that you change your whole body, your what your whole. Yes. And that's exactly what does, right. Yeah. You gotta tadpole in has gills that's no legs or arms. Right. Completely in the water goes through metamorphosis, the frog. We ever catch tap holes on your little, I never did never five, but, like I didn't have a pond or anything. Yeah. I mean, we'll okay so Ellie like, like two bucks from high school that went to jersey for a move here. And there was a creek that, like when all the way down along the high school and. Yeah, that was put into a river only interaction I can think ahead with that. Is one year. We went sledding near my friends like would slit and track and see how close knit could get to the river without falling it. And we felt it but you never caught any, we'll be frowns. It's not like frogs are everywhere they almost kind of our though. But that brings us to another little difference until frog's habitat frauds appetite. Habitat advertise. So they need water. They need to be a lot of toes. I live on. Yeah. Somebody the water somewhere nearby, but they're not gonna live. Drip. Yeah. So toes like I would catch tadpoles growing up because I, I lived in the desert, but we would live by a lot of farms at had. Whether the Iranians, it's like a canal type thing. Yeah. So we would go on there. And we'd catch the top holes all the time. So, yeah, it's pretty. Yes. Like super squirmy like how do you catch them in your hands? Them a bucket. Yeah. I mean I don't know question a lot. A lot of little cat. Everyone that firefly catching never we don't have fireplace here. Yeah. That was definitely a big part of my hood, I did for the first time in high school. I wanted to catch a firefighter because I'm nerd with bugs, and I went to catch wine and I looked at it and I screamed was terrifying. Scare I just wasn't expecting 'cause I've never actually seen one. And it's basically to me like a giant mosquito, the Bhosle l'aimable on his what it looks like pretty much. I did not like it. Most always are. Most always are. Kinda tiny and I guess, you know, it's super fun. You have like eight Lindor. They all player. Jalen? Super never did that. That'd be pretty cool. So anyways on more onto the violence versus Vivian. So we know you know, one of them is going to lay kind of like wet eggs, a little bit like like jelly like whereas for that's Bibi worth reptiles ladles harder leather retirement. Yeah. Lender shelled aches. Yes. And then let's see. It's a glandular skin for the feB ns, and then the reptiles have scouts, exactly. So let be think about it. You know, when you touch it does have the more smooth skin because they can breathe through their skin. Right. Allowed to do a lot of that underwater to keep themselves more whereas any reptile always have that leathery not let pool that scaly harder. Exactly. It's a weird word. Yeah. So, yeah. Those are the differences and everything about some, some groups got reptiles be lizard, gecko, crocodiles true toward snakes. Whereas in Philippians fittings, actually much smaller group, only frogs toads, salamanders, and newts. Right. Ex- wexler. Excellent. Isn't that? It's in the family. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Are so cute of their keeps you know, on the monkey. I don't have that. Gonna have to literally notice Hughes outings. Is it like in the first general, why I only know the fry you're an old now. What all say, oh, man. But what I was going to quiz, you on his meetings are frogs and toads salamanders, the news, there's one more group, you know, rebids Dan Dan, and there's one more grid. The. This. So it's actually very tricky when no kidding class ever knows. I know it's something about educators. Don't, don't even really think about this. I say civilians, I don't exactly say Cillian CE Cillian. I always think, Sicilian pizza Jianli light. So that makes me remember but they are pretty much kind like look worm, snakes leg, but they have, like berry tiny little arm, and leg appendages. We'll take a look at some pictures later and beyond, they'll be in the video some links, but very aperture. They live like underwater, or an underwater underground army soil, like under Alexis, but moist soil pretty much Vivians that looked like snag with little tiny benches. I think our T Rex Lawrence, his body. It's like that a wermer terrifying to think about kind of will really twenty feet long. Yeah. Today, very tiny for the most part, most maybe we can talk more about the. Sunday, very listeners. Exactly. So, yeah. So that's cool. Any last reptile amphibian facts lamb. Something new everyday through my question. Now, I think I think, over pretty much everybody think we covered about everything, reptiles live on land on water reptiles harder literally harder. Scaly. With that memorial, smooth skin tone for not do not cause words, it is a human virus. Yeah. So, in fact, view warts on your end, don't touch for over took them jury. I don't know if they could catch it on the other. Just kidding. So, yeah, that's cool. Anyways next onto our conservations. This is an interesting one. Why don't you inform? The listeners Michael, okay? So our conservation to this make basically is to try and reduce the usage of Hong loyal cadre will first before which are guilty. Guilty guilty. You're guilty. Okay. Well before we go into the guilt, the guilt trip why is Palmer such a bad thing. Why should we reducing our usage upon oil? So we should reduce the usage of palm because it's a main, the one of the main reasons for deforestation. Exactly, so, because the palm oil production, obviously, that's a big contribution to deforestation and almost everything that we buy, you know, kitchen products to bathroom products. It contains pasta. Yes. So it's in the deforestation you know, it causes species SCO extinct species, go endanger chain ill system pollution, in, you know, it's excelling excelling, the climate chain quantity of greenhouse gas in our atmosphere in it, really, it's really doing damage to wildlife, because that's the main cause of most endangered animals is because served Rava. Yeah. Exactly. So I actually found this really interesting really sad fact that what was let's see sorry. Close to grow. Actually out on that. So we're losing over six thousand arena takes a year. She and they're only four hundred Sumatran Tigers left in the world because of habitat loss. So it's all because of these palm oil production is all, you know, it's a main costed, honestly, did you wanna talk about some of the items? All right. Get ready listeners because here's palm oil avoid these products. Lightning. Are. So if you trying to reduce your uses of palm oil trying replace a few of these products in your grocery list, something different. Check the ingredient. All I'm gonna drag as least Palmer's other contest. I you bring your through seats every my groceries. It's next time we see who utilize Powell. I'm gonna check like each and everyone more, and I will to come tell. Okay. All right. So if you're trying to. Or trying to reduce your usage upon oil. What can we eliminate? What can we try and replace bread buttered, sort over of our that start over? Everyone. So if you're trying to reduce your palm will take we can get rid of replace. Brad breakfast. Bari McAfee chocolate, cookie. Packers can't skeets pancake cream infant formula. RJ. Peanut butter salad dressing, Phut, Russians soap sun, blinds, toothpaste. You can't play students. Yeah. You can have you ever had that to base that has no Floride. And apparently they actually I'm been using this charcoal. Coconut oil charcoal. I'm pretty sure it has super strong teeth cleaning properties super white now. Okay. But I'm just fair. Fair whatever. Right to recap one, you want to you want to reverse this to hook to release them as I'm social. Boom the dresses. She nut butter margarine infant formula ice cream hand case canned soup zone, crackers talk, let cookie Andy CAPP cake. Jack mixes. Breakfast cars. Brand read. See some of those are a little part of and others. Right. But you know, let's get pizza get a little different or whatnot. Please is on the Georgia really every week or so many cut down every two weeks. Switched up. Little, hey, why not have a cabbage have cabbage nuts replacement for visa, but I mean, I would say cauliflower crust or something. I'm cook. They'll take my food. Eighty likes Rama noodles. Is there anything wrong with Robin new nothing wrong Rama noodles? I think we're in. I like instant actually palm oils instant, not not really. I don't know. I mean Google it. Yeah. So the end of the day, if you were ever unsure, Google it, well, not only that, but I know what is it FDA? That's like try to tap. So they have certain rules and regulations. Obviously keep the companies are able to change up a word. Yes. So it's like it won't necessarily say palm oil, so you can actually look up, what weather term, what are their terms and words for palm oil because they like to get tricky now because it is to return has, you know, it is a concern, and I think recently actually don't know how recent but more and more people are concerned for it because of, you know, the habitat loss for all these endangered species, and just losing all of that, you know, nature anyways, so, yeah, that is something to take a look at as well. This list of candy donuts. Reema stuff is in the sense. Deserve pleasurable treats not like to have ice cream is alive. So it's like some of these note. If you take the idea of a lot of things I can't cook just cut that down. Maybe we're playing with a healthier snack helped your or get creative and Betty, Betty Crocker Proctor and you know bake your own stuff without palm oil oil. Yeah. Yes. So also palm oil is can, you know, can be considered not that healthy for you anyways. Oh, so not only, so you're telling me not only can help save the environment but we can help save bodies percent. Saturated fats isn't such ban in a lot of places. Now with its trans fats transplant. I don't know. I don't know come while. Trade at the king of the hill ups over the banned transfats remember that one and I should know we've been having to early ban trans fat. And so then they start selling out of trucks, legally Hank realizes he's a part of the legal. Oh my God. The low. I don't know that one so yeah. So that stuff is hidden palm candy bad for you on a certain amount of guests with a lot of things too much is never an apple day keeps the doctor away, but sixty thousand apples a day. And you probably did that makes me not like that. Okay. To not get sixty thousand of really like apple sauce, but not apple. I do not like. I do not like me. Like dill's does that like. Yes. But I the crunch to cringe every apple slices either cut them up if they're very thinly sliced in, like a solid with some vinaigrette sure talk about all that have moved vinegar that contains. No. Very so was there anything else that you'd like to add to that? I think that's a good conservation to, you know, we pretty much talked about, you know, why pommel is dangerous contribute to deforestation climate change loss of species, and what you can do to get rid of some of that, in your daily is anything you would replace commute think of something that we can suggest us instead of pommel products like what could someone us instead of bread rice. Yeah, he's right. Bread. Yeah. I like it better. Sometimes it depends on what you're going with. I want to get a sandwich. The rabbit apprentice rise, get a rap, I don't know, with price tortillas or something. We're finding creative ways to serve the palm. I'm not a Sheffi there. So but I really like this is one of those things where we can only do so much on personal level. Right yet. We tried to best to change are making awareness. Okay. This was going to say is that even though there's not so into the personal level on the barrel. Homemaker voice heard make it known that, you know, you don't condone USA Pomo product, you want products challenge, those companies exact tell our friends families win win when they see sales dropped when they see, you know, people being bulk Lavelle this, they will. Exaggerating making trains. Don't have a planet being planted. Let it go. We don't think about it, like, what will tech this planet? See, right? What 'cause you mercury out that, I'll talk over mercury's planet a Venus planet b. Can we get there to live there right now? Not right now. But the future colds the truth. Yeah, but at this Ray, we gotta make sure that we have this clinic, that I'm for resources may seem infant, but they are not. Glenn are very fun act. Yes. So always keep that noise at. Park. So I think that covers all of our topics for today's podcast Soir cast. And if you have any questions or comments, of course, you can reach out to us. We have a squawk as Email the squad cats at Curtis quad dot com. And we love to hear what you guys think if you've got conservation chips of your own, we love to share on air. If you've got questions, you want answer, let us know we'll do our best to get you. Higher up. And of course, just as you know, you can contact us by Email. We've also are wonderful website YouTube, and critics quad dot com slash kids death zone where you can find all funding for mission. We've got fact sheets quizzes gains worse mazing about beautiful voters, these great infographics, exactly. 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Part 2:Andy Serling, Victoria Keith

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1:23:38 hr | 1 year ago

Part 2:Andy Serling, Victoria Keith

"Percents raises with Steve. Kerr raising handicapping interviews. This will do. We're back DOC. Our two at the races on this Tuesday. That means it's time for Andy. Serwer joins US now from the New York Racing Association ADIGA morning. Oh Oh yeah good. Good you're going to have to talk for Linda Rice we didn't we. We can't seem to connect with Linda so I must have been ruined. Ah for her but okay. I'm sure she's dying to come on your show you know. Maybe she wants to come on now if he to call her back actor dollar for she's been on plenty of times it's just something it always takes. Yeah it always takes a couple of days to connect with a one. I don't I don't WanNA spoil well but we should we. I do want to. I want to talk about her. She'll talk about uh-huh okay. So it's it's gone Aaron's impossible should have like a sponsored. I've our it's you you know what you're right. It is a good opportunity for a he was he was holding the side. Usually the trainer holds the sign when they when they get the Milestone win on racing goes on today. Well we we had a pair of uh we might still get Linda will so we might still scare up before we wrap. I actually had a couple of fund discussions just now with the two trainers that sent sent out nine win horses on the year in Twenty nineteen the Jerry Rob with his Vanden and Bryant Michael from Kentucky's got a small outfit and had the nine win. Gelding the whole back guilting Picacho. They both one nine times To share the multiplied out quite. Some Heli hold me back best performance. Didn't he win. Oh in defeat. There's his best performance then hit a second sour burden travers. What how about that? How about that I would I would? I would have to pull up a pretty a big war Steve. Mind your mind mine. That bird now didn't run. Sarasota might not okay. You probably had like some other detached that's written in that year so you couldn't pretend the races didn't know you run there. I well I thought he rode. Oh Wow wow her work on your memory Steve My memory. Not Every nobody can do what you do. I mean a few years ago now it actually actually starting to pile up a few years ago. That's long enough. I cannot remember the mine that bird ran was he was. He hinting did he he. He ran into Haskell right there all summer that's right Helen on the on the Then what you WANNA call it. You know the downstairs tables everyday. He'd never in his shoes take him back. I don't remember what came back now I think about. I wonder I think he came back. I feel like even possibly rent years. That breeders cups in California that maybe I don't know he. He had run in the hassle right. No he hadn't the hassle he didn't now. The slop has robbery charges Andrew. Summer Bird Right. I thought was I thought he was. I thought he was third and and and I was thinking he was third. I don't think so the West Virginia Derby is what he ran in and was third there. There we go Yup Yup and they want to run the travelers. He just didn't make it forever. I remember seeing him and he was met the steak smart across some You know across Whatever that speed is the right street extension beyond the track boy? That was the that that West Virginia Derby which usually draws a big field had only had six horses that year so warrior how was he. Of course he was absolutely you got it with Dale Beck ner Saratoga Springs his own dale back ner aboard from Saratoga from outside Sir I thought he was I think he's from Serotonin of You're thinking of a different rider backdoor. Caserta you're the the kit from Saratoga with somebody else. They'll back to was There's that kid was from Saratoga whose name is escaping. Uh roaming around and I think he worked out tailbacks. Forget that there's a writer. His name is escaping me right. Now you have to work on your memory live fabricate something Orion. If he's friends with my friend. Paul you know instead of a gun bringing them up. I think he's running mom sometimes so sector. You could look up ninety nine percent. Sure he wasn't from anywhere around their fight against us from like in Oklahoma or somewhere around there. Ed Page I will I will but so who is who is that. Who is that journeyman? The kid who was wow yet. We're both we're both the tax they will somebody wrote owed. Who'd be somebody wrote back? Then I think he wrote a New Jersey Jail Road in New York League. I always well Dave Miller Dave Miller star of the north the thoroughbreds the bloodstock advisor. He says Dean Butler is from Saratoga. Butler exactly right. Yep Thank you. That's exactly what is whatever you call right famed Bishop. That's why that's what it was. That's exactly what Carlos percents good job. Well Done David. Thank you as always and rex for me but I remember younger every other but yeah I remember writing spending his family's around certa or inherit over and we're also we're also getting help on the mine that bird situation because Leslie NAF letting me know that He entrapped and went down to Belmont for the surgery went down to the roughing clinic and he was in the the stakes bar. Because I remember we were at dinner at Zeroes after the races. That by if I took somebody over to go see him a steak smart and in fact they both. This summer bird to Tim. Tim had summer bird over. Were there in in the in the park and these days. Somebody's talking about here. Date anybody here from you know what no well Tina. Tina have stayed in contact with the with his wife who was first wife and we got very friendly with and she was she was she starts. Yeah actually as a matter of fact. Yeah Very Nice. And they've they got a beautiful sun. Readers Cup of synthetic actually met okay that you would want if it was on the trials doctor back he was a good horse and it was a very good horse. Yeah very very very yep and I think people I don't know why he's Kinda treated as a as sort of an oddity or An anomaly well when had a front right wasn't he won the travers. The Jockey Club but you know a couple of weeks so you know sort of mask the Newport Raven Pass yes good result for me I should point about this very good result. there's the European second good European second right so very Passes the course that that Darlie got in the McNair. It is just right when they bought when they bought The whole Operation Right. I believe that's correct. I trust you Here we go Xanada no. It was actually that was in. YODA's year Andy. Definitely want on dirt. blame later you know whatever disadvantage Ponte's yes and twice over was third. I that I forgot. And yes and then summer bird. John Richards kid mine. That bird was night there. Two thousand nine four yes. Yep He sure was and was looming. I mean I need the was right there right there. Yeah who second to Raven's Raven's pass was very good European on all right we will we will. We will get that answer. I remember following Gosden to the press conference Henry the navigator nineteen. Yeah they were crazy actually like three thirty five dollars at saying yes it was. You're absolutely right. It was written Basically three hundred and for the two dollar the dollar was three hundred twenty twenty. No the dollar was one hundred fifty. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Try after consequence. I wrote that he wanted to be that. Eagle worse rated the in the Turf the race before Fiat was was third that year it was okay to Jock. was He related. Jaakko Doc Abo- yeah. Yeah yeah absolutely agile right actually pretty good when he was like what he third report that Demont yes probably four. You know second at Belmont. That's a good trivia question. Don't look it up. who was who came back onto the second thankfully but by that bird third? Belmont key back on the rail big gray dunkirk correct dunkirk. Who I liked that day I need them for second? Thank God he came back on. Well we speaking of which is this is a funny story because coming out of the paddock. I texted Yeah it was a big crowd. Obviously and I texted. Tim said Tim. I said he looks unbelievable and Tim Texted back. He's winning. He's GonNa win the funny race. That remember you've ever the cavalry. Burrell it did you see. That was right. He wouldn't he didn't incorrect read mine. Effort No. I'm saying he didn't ride the two days he didn't ride leading up to the race for that was the day. The rail super super strong and got dunker came back on the rail and he Kevin Brown who never left. The rail took by that bird wide early in the race in statewide said the rail is dead. Yeah you're right. He didn't write it all right. He's out for two days. Well Guy always stayed in the rail. Gold Rail was dead rail. He actually read very well that take mine that bird. He wasn't GonNa be summer bird all likelihood but it would've been close. I'm not very good for a short period of time. You know people will look back on him and history as an oddity so that you know that Derby Win was some sort of fluke wicked funny some ways. It kind of was but he got very very good for a short period of time. Granted you know Rachel. Alexandra ran a much better race the preakness but he did what she was doing. Big Big drama. You know while he was lingering the back of the pack but he did run well to be second and yeah he came on yes he did. Yeah I mean and he put in a good account for himself and everyone triple crown races and then the bottom fell out right obviously i. I don't think so actually now you say I bet when he lost I think it was like the Borderland Derby or something. That's now and he found him. The rent's seconds. It's I remember. I used to take those spots with Dan. Eldon and that was one of the race handicap and has called me up. He was the Horse in the borough land that he had a horse that was like a half two or something he was submarine. Couldn't watch so call me up and asked if he could like. I watched the race Klay up the race call and I said I miss rings and I really served by that bird. You're probably like thirty dollars per se. He's ninety two and he got a lousy trip. prepping probably should have won. I think he lost by Iraq. I remember everyone's Derby look back. Go back I don't think I would have considered the derby even if if I remember he. Wow he lost his score with cater In that spot right by MAC like four seventy two water saying that right seventy-two okay. Seventy two neck and there's a good dual to it was a hell of a dual. Well I'll be the best trips but I I was like Somebody in there. That was okay. Something I forget. Got It okay. Where's Mary's do Mar.? The Steve Asmussen was the was the two two one favourite. The Horn was in that race to that Horn that was also a because his leaving Mars. The basketball player. He was very good smoking. Legend I think he. UN Fourth Tony Mine. That bird x Ray. The son whatever so suddenly there was already called Kirby or that needed that yet. No I think it was. I think it was the Sun Li. Yeah it was the Sun Linder by when he was working there. You know what's interesting that I that I it really is an oddity. I think if I'm not mistaken the let me just I want to look at some birds. Oh No okay I was is going to say armored Verana goes before you're right. No the the Breeders Cup was the cup was his last From do they give them to well. They know they retired. No big dispute with him and they took the horse away from but the retiring they had retired for your three year old year they intended to Racin and there was that whole hubbub and he ended up getting taken away but then he ended up getting hurt never running. I believe I vaguely. What do you say that that That you know pretty well played out. I think it's yeah. Yeah yeah well one of the other one of the other funny things is about how you know disarm ends up on on Summer Bird Chris. Rozier had been riding him and and Casey Lambert had been riding my net bird before our not sort of problem. Arkansas Derby Right Derby was he fourth I believe a fourth third was right that there was that clump with plus get banned from birth. He was third in the Arkansas Derby at six and ended up sixth in the Derby. Okay did so much through the Turbie he was. He was a Clinton was papa. Clem while Papua's wasn't funny But skipped the preakness anyone adult one was six well. That's that was part of that story. which was that Tim Soon as the Derby was over quick very he went straight to Belmont and started working at Belmont with them and gave them the full. The full five weeks he blossom the good Lord and Rozier had written him. Chris Rozier wrote him in the Derby and then disarmament took. The rest was right before. Yeah then while the four wins yeah right the rest of his career essentially and that was that funny. That was one year after the Big Brown Brown right. Two thousand in nine two thousand in two thousand eight would be right. That's right people blamed for Big Brown so stupid is unbelievable. The trump people crazy people well no shortage company. Not necessarily the couple of notes about Since we talked last week a couple of winners initially came on. And the I didn't know how you saw the safe Florida's Andy he put in a big push for The winner for Arthur hope picks digit. Okay Okay Yeah but thanks for paying attention. I'm pretty young scrabbling behind me. It really is very way way to Cincinnati. I had I known I would've well. You both the both scored out okay. Then twelve all these works you know. He's a he's a very different horse. What he's able to control the front? You Never WanNa race when he has control speed. There's only one time where I think he'd had to leave every call when he was lapped on. Or but right on top of the pace but he's never been successful and its priority issues involved in very wicked the the paste really fell apart. I should say in the race that My Potato Horse One and He was in fourth. Frankly considering how much the pace melted down there there and he was on paper but used controlling the speed Good job and that was it. Sometimes it works so yeah. That was good this silly K.. Windows two thousand win on Sunday courses really improving I think that was his okay. That's a Nice New York bread. They bet that dream. Bigger like well he was controlling speed but silly hey actually broke him and dream bigger actually came at the start of the worst of them but he and you could see pretty much from the start silly was going to be. The whole way was just sort of controlling money. Outside isn't grew with every star. Thought he rent very well. Winning the second figure. Last time he ran and Dream big run of dreamy goes out for for the stallion show. We had arrived at without race Good so we've had Couple the other couple of other notable looking at the the three year olds there was that war stopper stopper for that was very impressive. Possibly second place to Was that funny race where Orlando told to disperse. It was going to win by. Yeah of course I I saw I saw. That was pretty wacky. It was that was a or a cookie cookie story but first time starter at a mile a mile and Well that was my probably valid. They sell it on Saturday thirty lines but I will do all top starting in the by like you've been entered going six six and a half and they've got him probably about for being an athlete. You WanNa win this race regardless but Benefit occur bill for start but with the wind was very. I don't know where it came from and the trap was was coming to speed but it wasn't an way exaggerating performances or various doors is home so I don't think that the effort that was forbidden basically as racetrack. I think viewpoints high but not they use four lights front sales twenty one and three quarters of the doors. So Ah I pick these ran. What what the winner does next time remains to be seen? But for the time being I was I think that got a bigger than that. Delgado Wars Florida number two ninety two. Yeah Yeah Federal's his name Cara. CARA CARA CARA CARA core. I believe that was on the I watched a little bit over a second faster than the other division. The division was won by that. That's half to strike power. Works vice terms okay. Tom was from Chad it number. NHL Haven't I haven't rented keeneland was third in the tape. Churchill next time out telephone talker. you yeah. I just went home and went to win the war and it was deemed art named archies. I fall yes. Man is race on Sunday skeleton. Eighty four I saw and noticed she was running. 'cause a million dollars I. I was surprised that she was named archies. First of all for some reason that they've started his right a lot walker. She she'll fifteen which I guess is going on five years but She's dame dark these on that list. I could get to eleven. We figured out. They're made on Cigar. Bildt ended with great one because she won the united. A number of A number of the Bobby Flay broodmares. He had that nice run of of big priced I'll be very very interested to see what they paid. A lot of mine and the dog lead the world America for one and a half million. I mean I remember America. The Damn as I'm very well L. placed plotter by Bill Lot. Good Job I am. You pick up the phone answer the phone just Salvador's the boom. It was Kinda slow worse right. She she got some distant third in some great ones because he ran some five quarts fields small fields. But it was it was door. Wasn't it and the arm. SACRA terra million. That one runs That one's running Saturday at fairgrounds who The New York bred yearlings the terrorists. He has another fold. It's a three year old and she does. Yes that's the one that's done and now you're getting ahead of yourself ours secretaries a two year old that sold for two million in West Point Bob with acid house right yes. That's running on Saturday at fairgrounds. I'm talking about the yearling sold last summer for half okay so the two year old issue. Yeah what's appropriate Chesterton. Second Start in the law. I wasn't there slob and wishes that rates runwell forever wicked. Yeah but somebody else like the second place could assure fragment we could start. Right was second and wild. Read very well while banker thinker. I work in Iran factor. The price in a steak may be or the neural no They Vaca justified that number. What Chester town running? He's just an an allowance. My sixteenth allowance to first time around two turns interesting arrested. Believe one did he. Great One. Two to three. And four artists Agra Agra. She wanted the. I know that she won the present and I know that she won the Ballerina. Try Remember if she wanted great. One role is wider data. I O I think it was a two and four if I had to. If pressed the giant could easily look it up grounds and it's it's the It's it's fairly early. The fourth of arrays sale this summer that sold shortly shortly after that full from of the yearling from America sold for one and a half million. I want to say and the secretary of the summer's over half a billion GRANDPA. Okay to that of course is the two now two year old half to Chester town and I think Chester towns. The first of all I heard was trained by us. Yes she was by the way speaking of Saturday right he wrote her. I think can bowery anyway go ahead receives having a lot of fun down in Florida I I saw. It looked like a very big big chicken dish. Yesterday's very exciting. I I was GONNA. I was GONNA ask him curried goat that because that's my probably didn't permit them to love probably had enough curry goat. Uh Ask them. I will have him. I will good man. He's doing great. What'd you make of endorsed performance on Saturday? I I don't look good. So did I want you back in the low nineties. Yep Yeah that was great. Yeah I like the doors. I think he's a nice horse. Those return race and you want it. Six was good and thought his race in both the Koran and figuring traverse he was forced to traverse right. That sounds right. Yeah no I I I. There's there's more sits around to some four year olds that you know. Have the potential to be okay. This year it could be A. It's more promising. It's it's about promising group at this time it was last year under that spares site sorry aumont beaches retiring that. I have no issue with owners taking money off the table but I I'm sorry. Sorry because he's a good horse. I'm sorry maximum-security never got a chance to meet my understand why they're going that fortunate race for the money right but I just. I'm sorry to never met agreed agreed. That's been that's been a recurring theme blaming anybody. Buddy be no no no. It's okay here is yes this one is this one is a is the cap I think the one that sold the summer is a godly. Don't even have the one. That's all summarized. Okay Armaments Agra Tara Hera. She wanted present. She won the Ballerina. Oh you know what she wanted arenas the three year old sheely only ran once as a four year old believe it or not. She was offered one day less than a year and they ran the Breeders Cup sprint Wavell avenue. She was fourteen. Blame their springer's during the beauty at Sandia as well but she won the Ballerina Grena and she wonders that she was diplomat. D. Cube Breeders Cup at Sandia that we're Beers Cup. She's fifth they're like doors. She's five nine lifetime and she was sort of an all or nothing. She won all races and that she was nowhere and everyone she lost. She's beaten eleven. Funny yes that's shut up and she won. I don't WanNa three which you went about. Remember Switzerland who should be very good worst our the report all on my favorite horses sweet reason by the way On the topic of versus the sibling the Chester town sibling uncle Mo Philly. Her name is teetotaler. The one it's all the summer Komo not Medaglia d'oro was an uncle Mo Philly teetotaler is She's been named and there's so bat was uncle. Okay Okay Doro the the America one. Yes maybe because The next one behind these two is an arrogate eight. Actually there's an aggregate yearling now and I don't know who she's talking about her. Well yes he could be a really good sire the The the early the physicals Gunrunner had a big day yesterday with his first couple of yearlings that went through with the South January sale. Keeneland right now. They just day to January short totally short yearlings. About how many practical jokes do they sell. There was a practical joke that I think was fifth the fifth the biggest Price healing sold really well at Saratoga over fifty. Now he's going to be Is a fact I can tell you. Here's the the pup pup and all and also it's always fun to watch the covering sires to to the Info and see how those go good magic sold one yesterday. Seven fifty seventy seven fifty good magic note seven hundred seventy five thousand seventy five thousand broodmare broodmare. WHO's a burger that I'd have to go dig around I? I think it's speed could Oscar. Performance had a as covering sire had two hundred seller. Yeah on this This is these these three sales Qinglin now then Ob the ASS and February. There's always some. There's always some interesting the little little things that go on and you bust you see you see some mayors that that sell it You know we're we're favorites. I mean I love us well. It's fun it's fun to watch the I. I can still remember when I when I first went to claiborne and ninety four when I was in Lexington first winter I was before Spring Springhill Lexington and believe it was still in the paddock and it just seems so long ago right. I mean I saw him. I saw Pete Alley eighteen seventy at Ecuador and But you know it seems. It's forty three years ago now but you know back. That was twenty. Six years ago I was in Lexington and believe it was in nineteen. He was there I loved. That guy showed me around. I said you know we read a lot. I believe it was one of those verses. That was just sort of forgot because he ran behind affirmative allegory. Second both the excuse me in the Derby and the preakness one the one third Belmont beyond those two believe me. I don't know at that time. And that title is drained by somebody else but at some point train my how dasher not sleeping woody. He wanted to would right believe uh-huh. Yeah but who's who is third development firm alydar trivial slash. Darby Darby Creek road. That'll be correct. Thank you. It's a rare. It's a one time. Is he kills. One time I think for snapple couldn't so because this time up for that incorrect time for folly road in the Amsterdam the real track record should be held by chance lot. Faulty time polity relatives. That's right that's right. I forgot about that. Well anything What are we got this weekend? By the way while we Before we wrap I go now. I don't know we only have out. We'll draw that vary tomorrow. You've got all the year. When is your world tour begin? Technically I guess at the end of the month. I'll head to California and then Vegas And then so weekend actually run through. Monday stopped at that. Oh the Toboggan Saturday actually mind-control is running back correct. And then you've got the ladies. Andy CAPP on Sunday and the Inter borough on Monday there. Yeah Yeah my control mind. Control is trying to be Dave rennick. Found this the right it. I'll go ahead do something I wrote while he wrote about Sacco at about my control and the other one the you know that he was trying to become the first horse since very well known horse to to win the hopeful and then win great ones at three and four on the last horse do that was. I was shocked. They've L. I.. Started looking up. I realized how many sources really didn't even running for probably the last not who is the last horse to win when the hopeful the hopeful and then when at least one grade one at three and four hopeful and then great gotta go a long way back to one of my favorite horses whose owner has been mentioned on the show. Well that's Peter Brand so it's Gulch Yep to work doc I was going to bring up Gulch you talked about believe it. One of my thrills going to Kentucky was before it was engulfed old friends and And I and fire yes. Sure he was You know who who rubbed Gulch the the WHO has no who was his groom who is still on the backstretch in New York out Paul Baran. That's cool Gary Assistant. That's cool when I when I brought he was with Leroy Leroy with Leroy. two-year-old zero three year old golden monsters two year old race horse but he had a big year he was not an easy horse to be close. Close to well ask Paul about dealing with Gulch enjoy talking about it. I when I brought up when I brought this up with With Leroy wants when Leroy was still training and he said what I wouldn't give for three Paul Barons right now to to take Jake. You know to take care of horses. The as a group you said Paul was as good as ever had all right. All right. I'm done you. You were brilliant today not really anyway. I have a great show. Thanks Eddie Surly. Everybody add a always fun on when you lead when his history. He's in the mood to meander through history and and talk Nobody's got a memory like Like he does as I came up with RB Creek road today though and with Gulch. But that was you know with some hints. I have not been watching. I you know what I meant to bring up with Andy he he. He watched all the jeopardy tournament of champion things last week. I did not and he was. He said it was a lot of fun. I saw a very funny any Ken. Jenny Ken Jennings was poking fun at At the at the Gambler at What's his name whole whole Ojai? Stir homeadvisor he was poking fun He said I've I've decided to follow James on twitter because he's been the following me all week. I thought that was pretty pretty clever or take up but not the top break but About fifteen to the top here and going to be joined and by Victoria. Keith and I mentioned earlier this morning about the situation that and I don't know if it was fine I guess it was finalized or the sort of an outcome but the situation involving d now Barranco and the New Jersey Z.. Feininger and restricting her from being allowed bureau charity ever again but the outgrowth of that whole circumstance was was the founding of the national thoroughbred welfare organization and Rick Porter Bankrolling it and Victoria Keith. Directing its efforts and essentially trying to create the same kind of oversight organization that the Ta Yea became the after Caroline's and WanNa talk to Victoria and let her update everybody on the progress in the last year since the founding of the Anti wwl. And it's you know it's mission and what you know what the challenges have been Live and how much progress. It's made so Victoria. Keith joins US and of course Victoria long associated the as the the Fox hill farms. Managing managing manager can't say managing partner because of course recorder. But she's been running the foxtel office and and all the work that goes along with it for for a long time. She'll join us next back after this. It's at the races with Steve Vic on Sirius. XM radio developed by horsemen horse. BILLS DOT COM is cost. Effect- you time sitting environment friendly paperless revolution of how equine industries bill and receive payments vendors. 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Alvarado I know from any charity activities and I know that I can see that online. It hasn't exactly exactly placated the people who were outraged by everything that transpired But the most important outgrowth of what went on was recognition That the this was you know yet. Another area that the industry would benefit from. I'm having a closer supervision and aside from what's already been accomplished with the TA and the accreditation of after or care facilities the national thoroughbred welfare organization that was funded by reporter and and administered the and spearheaded by the efforts of Victoria. Keith and Victoria joins US now Victoria. Good morning happy. New Year Mooring wearing happy new year to you and to all your listeners I you know I tried to get an angle on the you know what transpired yesterday and I thought to myself. What's the the best thing that we can talk about From this disappointing affair. And I thought you know what N Twa. Oh here's something something that Came to the fore as a result and has already made an impact and you know certainly going forward is is yet another response from the industry to address a need. And you know talk about the motivations nations and You know spearheading the W. O.. And the progress that's been made the in in basically a year Well we knew about this problem for a long time. We we make friends with the release Strahl of it. Mid Atlantic course rescue and we supported her for for a number of years We knew she did good work going to new Holland and and getting horses from the auction that might end up in the kilowatt And so we always knew that issue but it was almost such a big issue. How do you how did you really fix it so we had thought For a couple years but then rick was very ill and and so. It wasn't something that we were able to to try to get off the ground at that time But we will say that thing Dana and seeing other people online Pudding these horsing up there in front of everyone showing these horses changes that ran bad situations. you know break had just recovered. He had been a few months now recovered from cancer cancer. And so I talked to them again about you know. Can we go forward with our idea because clearly there were a lot of voices that need and just just what terrible for the industry for everyone to be able to see all these horses that were ex- tracers and now we're in trouble and and straight needed to step up and didn't do something to to say these sources from a bad outcome and so That we started the national thoroughbred welfare organization. We papers in January and got up five a one C three. I'm in the middle of July of two thousand eighteen and in the past year and a half we taking in two hundred and thirty one of its most of them from Louisiana And we believe a large majority of those would have ended up in a kilt pin somewhere being extorted online And so we're real proud out of what we've accomplished today. But there's so much more that want to do but the problem I'm sure for every organization out there is is getting the traction and getting getting the funding that you need to everything that you want to do. But we're working on that and we're where like instead excited about what we've accomplished. We've adopted out most of the horses that we've gotten in. I think we have sixty seven currently Lisa von and Lexington and we invite anyone that's been like then to come out adopt a horse or just meet US and pedal wars I did initially and conceptually Victoria was the was the concept to you. Know to get into to the retirement and retraining end of things or was it as as sort of what the Ta has has has done in terms of being a an umbrella organization to help organize and bring together the particularly the rescue side. Because I I initially when you when the introduction of Twa Oh was announced you it felt to me like it. It had the potential to serve in in that in that umbrella capacity and or were you always interested in in being a a safety net and being a a physical property to help horses that you know might be you know in peril right where we're a little of both We went into Louisiana. I because there was not a accredited organization nations outlook and with their locations near the Mexico and also in the vicinity of two of the largest. Kill Bill Byers in the state. Those horses were in real trouble and so we started efforts down there and because because there are so many. It's just taking up our time but we consider ourselves advocate for the Horse in the industry advocate for the course not having someone outside the industry You know coming coming for US instead. Uh showing that we're taking care of the horses and so we did want to go to the areas of need that maybe there was an organization. Already they're able to address the needs there but we also wanted to do more I think the DNA Algebra no no US writing the article on that that we believed helped a lot and things saying that activity pretty From continuing and and bringing to light the other extorters online. I think that we've work in that area. We've also gone to the commission Not Gotten everything through that we've wanted to do but we help get funding being passed in Louisiana that was the first They had no funding going towards after care. And now they've got a five dollar per star. Be going that we understand that it's going to match so proud of that And then we also you know went to the commission turn on a case of a trainer that had a star thoroughbred at their home. And so we think to be more than and just a rescuer aftercare organization but instead to be like you said. The umbrella advocate it within the industry. That shows the world what we're doing and let's face it. There are plenty of things that we do. We need to do better at industry and so we need those within an straight to come together and work on those issues and get them pass it remains. Thanks going from Commission Commissioned Commission. That's what you do And you know for us. We saw that problems. We're going to becoming war divorce rates in the industry with in the area of Animal Welfare And I think it came came true. Not You know with what happened in California and we've seen now that the industry is doing things to address rest the issues that we've had And that's wonderful and I'm very happy to see that but there's plenty of more to be done and So that that is our goal to be more than just Africare but also try to bring all the after care organization together and also bring all the people in the industry together that you know we were drawn to the industry for the voices and together. We can make an impact on things from drugs to aftercare to braiding issue. There's issues all down the line that we can all work on together and one of the things that I thought was very notable that that the involvement your involvement in Anti W. O.. Seemed to really move the needle. Ah there you know there had been what was being billed as a say I don't want to say a a stonewalling but there had been very little evidence of of active cooperation in amongst the the racetracks and particularly when I think about Delta and Evangeline and you know what what what was being viewed as a pipeline of more or less you know off the track and into into a danger danger zone for the horses and it felt like a deed of Yo. Got The tracks the table on that on that point right right they. I happen to come along at a time that I think they're negative publicity. You know had them seeking to to do something as well INFO. We happen to come along with the point that they're looking to do something and here we are. And and a partnership with Boyd Gaming has has been a good one They've worked with US on the trainer that I was referring to two they did remove him from tracks and is not allowing him to you. Know Board there. AH So happy that they've done that I think there's issues at commissions and track and it always seems seems to boil down to one thing and that's it they're going to get Some things that we've put out there particularly to the commission. The response back is that they will get sick and we hope that we're seeing a change now in the country where maybe there's concern bobbing soon as as you just have to do. What's best for the worse? Because that's ultimately what's best for the industry and if you don't take care of the Horse I We will have no industry The problem with demand and Victoria. What what in general in a general sense and given the social media landscape and availability ability and frankly given the generosity of the you know so many people when asked to help whether it was the San Louis a a fire What you see currently going on to help All kinds of of affected people in Australia With the the fires When it comes to me to individual circumstances that that we've seen crop what what what advice is there? And what suggestion is there for. Some control to keep problems comes from a rising and generally to to to stem any potential tied side for a circumstance like we saw in this case. You know that you know the public reacted and and they. They think someone has good intentions and it doesn't it doesn't turn out that way. What what should people be advised of? And and how can you know. How can those that want to help? Impact things in a positive way without you know without being taken essentially America's a great country great people in the country and they always seem garage today occasion when there are or You know when they're situations that you you know like you said like in Australia or in the case for our horses when people say that horse join danger they stop up With the release yesterday we found out that that three hundred forty thousand dollars was raised by DNA in the span of the year. Here and we don't come close to that That the one thing. That's a bit frustrating and I know that it shared by most house of the other organizations out. There is that with us. There's no sense of urgency because we have the horses that people consumed that they're they're getting great care they're not in danger and so giving to us or giving uh other organizations you know just maybe doesn't come to mind A lot of talk about how we put put a horse's picture up there completely fake Victor and claimed it therefore is in a bad situation. It's not good to slaughter. You'll get all these people that that give on But once they once horses with a good organization that they're getting the best care. There's not since avert urgency and people don't give So I think that is something. That frustrates a lot of people. That are doing back Because they're not putting out there that their horses in danger and they're suffering because they're not getting the money that they need The TA was a great idea. They're a great organization and I'm glad that they and So Oh all the all the inroads they're making is wonderful although organizations with them wonderful. We're personally not not a equation because you have to be in business for three years so I think twenty one before we invent Make an application to to oversee Ta Fund But you know their organization that's doing great there's others there's they're doing great. I would just warn people that what I've seen what had bothered me. Was that when you look at the Horses on social media. That people are raising money for a lot of times. It doesn't make sense. I've seen one in particular clar that every week. They're raising money horse. They claim to have a home for the stores. And when you're doing this you know not that easy. And so where are sources going We've been able to bring home a lot of horses but if you look at our facebook page you could see who they're where you're seeing update update thing The progress that would make on on these pages where people give in a sense of urgency. There's there's no follow up there any just no. It's not physically awful. Father comes to the available so I would love to hear people towards people that their close with like You know mentioned old friends occasion separate mid Atlantic. They're just so many many good ones and so I would just urge people to work toward in two or any of the TA accredited organizations or other other organizations. That might not be the credit and help those people Help on that. Our local teams But but just be real careful. Ask the questions that makes sense when you see these horses Is it really possible. That's his organization. Is it saving all these horses. Where where they go So I think I said there's an article back back when we were supposing dino with was was it don't know maybe the lack of urgency You know let let the urgency of the situation go instead. Know that when you're giving to someone that's ready to go that you're helping down to bring in more forces that that they won't end up in bad situations I'm not sure if that answered your cannot wait does does it. Does I mean the but at the end when you talk about the sense of urgency and one of the things I think that got exposed you know very widely in this circumstance that that probably was a valuable lesson or a a valuable Discussion because it hadn't really come up in. I'm going to say close to ten years and I can recall the last. The last kilt pins cycle. The ransom concept you Glenn Keynote address this around twenty ten and there was a a similar series of these these desperate calls and and you know the exposure to all of this at at that time when we go back to the ten years it was more of a northeast. Louisiana thing wasn't really addressed at that time it was it was is a I'm GonNa Forget the name of the Pennsylvania New Holland and but also sugar sugar creek. Sugar there was there was the pipeline that seemingly was coming out of the northeast and that got shut down and I mean are shut down but good and so this has not really raised its ugly head in in a number of years so The the exposure shining the light on on this discussing discussing cycle of these kill pen. Extortionists it you know. As as frustrating a scenario as it was it it probably is going to have long positive long-term effect and there there have been so many people Victoria that quietly and for years. You know the spotters the ones that have been quietly working and plucking thoroughbreds Particularly out of out of the pens and You know the the work deb Jones and and and her network of people For years. But this as as sorted an unpleasant as the experience in the fact that there it has been some positive developments that that's the part of this going forward that needs to be appreciated and built up absolutely absolutely huge business for the kill pens The rise of social media and them being able to extort horses. They're making you. You know triple quadruple or more. What they would have made if they shipped horse? So it's a huge business for them and unfortunately the people that then sort of get into partnerships with these people They start seeing how easy it is to raise money. And and so it's A big business and we originally went in thinking that we could just try to out by them At at the sales and we found that we couldn't do that we went once and from going. Want the man that operated Dominic might dominant told me that after the sale says I outbid Jacob he went and told some thoroughbred owners bring her bradshaw auction Russian next week. Because we've got a new shoot or town and she'll pay big bucks and so that immediately told me I can't do that anymore so you you know it's interesting the problems that count. We've been criticized because we won't bother horses out in the auction but we found that we did encourage more people send them to the auction and so we just had to deal with. Just let's go back to the track. WE'RE GONNA ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE US their voices from Tom to track and we tell them that that's not GonNa happen that that these people are used to getting money on the Gilpin and that we were pleasantly surprised and I think they were pleasantly surprised to see that. Yes I mean people when they do have an option they wanted to do. What's Schweik by the Horse? And now they have an option and so we were getting in a lot of worship and we were real proud that we said no to no horse until about three months ago and that at that period of time we were just so overfilled with the horses That we had to stop until we could get more opted out But but yeah it's a big business. People need to just really think really asked the questions and and check check out anyone and I think being five a one day three is real easy. Start and then from there you know talk to people and look at the reputations and either on West and updates on the horses and there's a lot of ways to check out whether someone you really want to the support not but but anyway writings making a walkway here and I think if you talked to any of us they would always they would probably say one thing. which is that? There's enough really great people people out there working in after care and the only they have the time to have the ideas they have the ability. The only only thing that's lacking is money and when I talked to everyone from old friends not a and two other people I think everyone is sort of disappointed with The lack of the lack of money What what we've got now I think TA was three point. Six point nine giving away this past year that fabulous. But they're working in hard to try to double that and and I'm sure that that is what needed and so we only had the money. We could take care of the problem so we're just hoping that we can get more people to to to see that You know if you make your living in racehorses working at farms back stretches hey company anywhere that you make a living off of horses We made everyone warn to to give their parts so that we can increase the you know the finances that can go towards and if if we can make that happen. I'm not so sure that can take care of every horse that needs to be taken care of though doubt and well said and Vicky I gotta ask to about the and I'm and I'm bringing this on you just because it's you know it's related. What where do things stand with the safe act with the the export Legislation to to help make it more difficult to to move the horses out to Mexico and Canada. I probably if I knew that question was coming up probably would have gone so problem. No Club sprung that. That's all right. I you know that it's sitting in that in that we would support it But I would have to look to to try to understand why it setting and not making the report progress. It's it's introduced almost every you know it it's been introduced there's been different Different attempts the grafted onto other legislation that that is getting past. I'll I'll I'll get an update on this because that's a that's an important tangent to you know everything that that goes on. I mean if there was if there was no way I if it was the restrictions were extended so that you know horses couldn't and be be sent to Mexico and Canada to the processing facilities than than these rural Would have nowhere. Yeah there there wouldn't be a market Burn pound it's important then of course just as with everything. There's always always unintended consequences so we would make sure that everything that we do. We figured out now how we're going to deal with the unintended consequences And so you know we have to rising half take care of it sources and you can't produce racing and ask people to a cheer for bet on fallen love with our horses and then have them find out that we're not taking care of these horses when their racing careers over that just unacceptable to the public should be unacceptable and so as an industry We're getting there. We've just got the to do better. And as we just keep striving right direction. Well it was a you know. Gracious and noble initiative to start and Twa. Oh National Thoroughbred Welfare Organization and the support the that you know obviously rick Getting the seed money in and the underpinnings and all the work that they'd obviously it's added to your to your workload when it comes to looking after her everything at Fox L. and on a very cheerful note. I know that it'll be tough to to see Omaha. Beach Compete Veep for the last time but There's gotta be building confidence in excitement. It was good to get that workout in the other day. And there Richard Mandella seemed very pleased Talk about the sending Omaha beach out for the last time it's going to be bittersweet as you can imagine you don't think we've ever been in a situation exactly like this where they have a horse at is gone that you know we're we're trying We understand what happened. You know back in late April is a three year old. You don't know what the future holds and and unfortunately wait the thoroughbreds or you know I have even made my plane ticket for the Pegasus. Yeah we learned that these horses can make us change our plans and flip back and But you know spendthrift was was Paying for the horses. Don't we had a contract. You decide you know when they wanted to horse to retire and that's exactly exactly what happened is going to be better sleep. But we're also glad that he's going out you know sound and healthy and And then so many people wanting to breed to him and you know that's such a compliment So very excited we we. We think he's GONNA run well. And then we have some other horses to pick up and giving some more stable excitement after he's we're tired and Jelly Olympic racist task. Yup like one excited about. Yeah hopefully we have a few others who got keep rick with something to do And so anyway it it it like I said bittersweet. We'll be there. We'll be Britain four. We'll be happy that he's would return sound and healthy and gorgeous take her in a couple of years. Well best of luck when it comes to the Pegasus try I and one more serious work And as you say Off The two spendthrift but Jolie Olympic Certainly a a pretty. He good a pretty good start with the Brazilian winning the Las Vegas over the weekend and looking like Like she'll be a a major a major player for the year and when it comes to the N. T. W. O.. Happy to provide some public service announcements and give people the you know the motivation to visit. Visit N. T. W. O.. Dot Org The makeover our opportunity is there with so many courses ready to be adopted and retrained in whatever particular discipline You you might want to compete. And what a great we talk so often about what a great addition to the second career and after care landscape makeover has been just a just a really a game changer. Victoria and you guys feeding into You know into that side of things I can't thank you enough. I wanted to make people feel good about something that that came out of a bad situation. Otherwise and certainly NCW. Oh a a very big positive. Well done well thank thank you so much Steve and I appreciate you having zone and I hope that we'll be on again in the future. Thank you so much not at all whenever you need a AH pushing and publicity and will be We're always always eager and happy and there's those that want to visit Several dozen horses ready to adopt for a nominal fee and Don't don't miss an opportunity and think think about an TWA when it comes to your gifts and you're giving to help horses off the racetrack and of course The off the track thoroughbred being honored at this year eclipses never eclipsed which has been a very clever hashtag concept except Victoria Keith. Everybody and Twa. Oh let's take a break very about my pleasure. 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Cody From New Jersey

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Cody From New Jersey

"The phone rang. Podcast is a deer media. Production welcomed the absolutely not podcast where we do the most the at the same damn time. I'm your host heather mcmahon. Hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of the absolutely not podcast. I'm your host other mcmahon. Nobody our oh god. What a we Sorry this episodes coming out a day or two late. But i lost my voice performing a bogus and i'm just getting a back so i didn't want to do a kiss yesterday with niloy slid she's back lubricated handle halls hannity t- we are good refreshing water. Love it Y'all vegas man. Man man man i just wanna say thank you for all the encouraging notes and texts and all that wouldn't iconic moment you know you don't know a lot about the comedy biz. Doing vegas is a make or break if you go and do well and they like you. You will work for a while if you go. And you fucking suck. You won't work for longtime so i didn't have a little bit of anxiety around that but We crush it was a great time. I worked out like a. I'd say almost a new hour of material. Like i was just going for it and it and it worked and i loved it But the crowds are great. I was actually quite surprised. At how engaged and how well behaved a ten o'clock show on the sunday of labor day was i don't know why just because i've done casino shows before How wild everyone was going to be especially at ten ten pm. Which i know is a late time british show but everybody was fucking awesome. They were great. And so i am so grateful to everybody who traveled to those shows. I mean i was meeting people down at the crab stable. We came from connecticut. You know lake tahoe everywhere all over so you spent money on hotel and traveling. I know how expensive that can be. I am so so so so so unbelievably grateful for you winning in the time and effort and money and hope you had a great time so far so good. Nobody slapped me in the face yet. So i'm so thankful for y'all coming out and supporting listen. I know some shows have been moved around. I know some shows got taken off. Some are adding. Y'all bear with me. All this stuff is out of my control. Just hang tight. Come to the shows. If something's been rescheduled look for the date or hate. Those virginia shows come to richmond. We still have tickets in richmond. Those if you can't come to one of the other shows come to the richmond show. We still have tickets available for that. I'm just trying to move around where i can and i am literally every other damn like. Where am i going next. What's happening so thank you for bearing with me. Good a heather on tour dot com to get tickets. The next show is in denver. So i will see you guys at the end of the month in denver cannot wait. Love that city and we're gonna be pushing through through the fall you'll let me tell you some observations about vegas now. I'll tell you this right now. The number one thing people always say to me truly before they're like. Hey i know who you are. I give faulk i. Listen to the podcast is you seem like a vegas girl and before i went to vegas truly for the first time i was a guy. Amadeus girl do you understand like she is vegas lights camera. Action glitter hookers like truly have always identified as vegas girl. Before i went went to my first vegas trip. What five years ago. I'll tell you what. I'm not a vegas girl. I love it. I love performing there. But i don't know what it says about me personally. Like dion envision me as a woman on a scooter with her mask around her chin smoking up palm all smoke in a menthol scooting hitting the hit in the slot machines the gym on g slot machines the call of duty slot machines do a big bang theory slot machine. There's literally anything you can brand. There's a slot machine and my putting on the vision board. A heather mcmahon slot machine called. Absolutely yes where when you hit when you make money. It's like just photos or rigatoni like building the ring. The ring the ring the ring. If you get an x with like ten reggae. Tony's across the board you win a million dollars. That's the fucking dream obviously. Are we there yet not yet. Which is everything about vegas. They make you work for it. Getting room service. They make you work for it getting a dinner reservation anywhere they make you work for it. Granted it was labor day weekend. So everything was lit. But it's and the. The casinos are so huge. Should've walked to the elevator to get to your room. It's like six and a half miles. i mean. listen. I'll tell you what i got my steps in though so as my did i see multiple people who probably did not need to be on scooters on scooters smoking say geeze at the big bang theory slot machine. Yeah do i think they had scooters just because they didn't want to walk the six miles to the elevator to get their room for sure. Are these smarter than all of us. Absolutely but yeah. I you know they get it truly forty-eight hours in and out performing there though fucking iconic absolutely iconic and the thing is people who've moved vegas frigging love it like if you live off the strip your thriving knowing it was a sales tax state tax income tax one of those sales tax. You save money. it's dry now. I know most people love a dry heat. I've said it before. I need a wet heat. Heather you like humidity. I my sinuses. Can't handle the dry heat. i do nettie bont. I do my sailing. Rents i'm taking colloidal. Silver up the ones and twos. I don't know what to do. I was dryer than hell still dry. There's no amount of moisture liquid lubrication that you can put in my body for me not to be dry. You ain't couldn't catch my breath also. Because i got stuck buying one of the ladies. Smoking menthols honors scooter. It is wild to me that they still smoke in casinos. I'm just saying we can't build some giant patios for these people. I get it. They want you to sit there and gamble longer. 'cause if you were to have to take a smoke break you'd have to step away from the roulette table. Speaking of which. I lost two hundred dollars. I've never been a big gambler. I know hard. It took to make those two hundred dollars. I like to keep them. Although i gamble away my waistline every time i go spend. I don't know six hundred dollars on a family dinner. I won't think twice about that. But i think twice about putting one hundred on red. I sure did sure did samantha. Jeff though one three grant he was literally like had that. You're so bad gambling. Okay first of all. I've said this. I've said it many times. I've a theater degree from the university of mississippi. I don't really understand statistics or ratios. Are god forbid algebra so then on top of that you also then want me to figure out how what the spread is. I don't understand the spread like these guys who do sports betting i do not understand it. Jeff is explained it to me six hundred fucking times. I don't get it delayed while the sprite is is thirty seven to fourteen. And if the team if alabama scores twenty one point about florida than that made. I'm like i have no idea what you're talking about. No idea i'm putting a one hundred dollars on black or red because those are my only two options. And i kept walking by tables. Going make is joe like that's not necessarily positive. Don't yell that. Heather people will get pissed at a chinese businessman clock. Me with his is he looked at me whereas i yelled snake is sitting there. Just rippin cigs past. I didn't know but jeff went a lot of money. I'm like damn should that be a an alarming sign. Absolutely but he came home not in the red. So that's all that matters dear women everywhere. Let's start a fashion revolution. Old navy is changing the shopping game. With body quality bond equality means size equality price equality and styling for women everywhere. That's right old. 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Mommy soaker feet in a tub. She has to get back but we had a great time. Thank you to everybody. Who came out to the shows. Shout out to everybody on the scooter. Smoke and say geeze. I feel like y'all are not actually andy capp but i also feel like you might be so not gonna test that lord knows. That's a quick way to get cancelled. Hi ma'am do. You actually need that. Scooter do you. Though that's very quick. Way to have a soundbite. Inobound tmz comedian. Heather mcmahon assaults woman on a scooter. Smoking a menthol at the big bang theory cramps or slot machine. She'd had seven white russians at bone that night. And look at this woman is your i. Don't see no legs. That's what would happen that. You and i both know it next chosen denver again. Go to heather on tour dot com to get tickets. Y'all it has been so amazing. It's filled new joy filled. My heart filled. My soul was so much joy to see you out on the road. You have truly no idea how much i miss you and love you and idea with so many of y'all and to get to see you in person and giggle with you. I see you like. I literally see you throw in like. That's jasmine from new york. I know her also shot up on the call from new jersey. she power lesbian frigging love. Her wife gray. I loved them. The call with your listing. Our frigging live. Y'all she like half shaved head. The cool comb over ripped body. They're both she and her wife or just stunning the jacked shed on a cheetah brent button-down a cool vans like just a very cool hip couple was lovely idea with them. Sometimes it was lovely to meet them in person. So y'all just so you know. I literacy you like if we chitchatted. I see you. And i adore you. And i love you and shut out to colton. If you were at vegas show you know exactly what. I'm talking amount. Colton the engineer. Who was flirty. And i was here for all right guys. I'm going to get into the voicemails. Y'all fucking problems. A lot of issues can't wait to get into it as always you can call into the hotline eight hundred. Two one three seven five zero three again. That's eight hundred. Two one three seven five zero three. Let's get into it on the absolutely not lying. Hey how their skating from buffalo. This is gonna be the one my absolutely not is people don't like pass judgment or site you because you've few cocktails and you and you decide to say. I wonder what my animals are doing at home. I got a dog and a cat. I'm sorry i get fucked up. And i wanna know what my dog and cats are doing. I don't have a rover because the cat will knock it over. And i don't and also my dog pretends to be deaf so if he's doing something bad i just had this literally sit there and watch it. I can't even yell over. I can't throw a treat. Because he's a thing done. But i i just i can't with people like why why because you don't like animals and just because animals giving me joy and especially when i have a few cocktails on me i want to squeeze them like fucking darla from finding nemo that's my own prerogative and you know what people look at me like. I'm not then guess what my cat. My cat is not even year-old. And i can man manhandle bill that little bitch. Us scratch me sometimes. But the things. I'd do to that cat. Most people can't even touch cat. Sometimes i give her kisses everyday. She hits it but she takes it. Because that's who i am. I'm going to come and train. The kids actually no. I'm not training my kids like that. Because i don't want my kids i'm rambling again by okay. I want you to know that. I feel is so deep down in my soul i identify with is absolutely yes to being concerned about your pets wellbeing after you've had said cocktails you know. I hate these people first and foremost if we're if you're a new friend a meeting for the first time. Hey what's your name. Amanda amanda ham. Heather what do you like if somebody's i don't care if it's their hundred thing out of their mouth but they say oh i don't do pets or i'm not a big animal person. I'm fucking hanging out with you. What does that even mean. And don't pull some shit that you have terrible allergies. I am highly allergic to cat. And dog dander i go face to face ask to ask with all of my animals and i take the zirtec and face the consequences you know. I have somebody in my life. Who litters like do dogs. We do dogs. i mean you know. I don't want to hang out with people who are trying to do dogs. But you know what i'm saying. We you just. You never never loved when set. Sydney lab kisses on the back of your hand. Oh i'm so sorry you don't open your mouth in the middle of the morning and try and get a hot whip of that breath because it's it's they're sent this what don't come to my wedding. It's never made sense to me my absolute aphrodisiac. Jeff and i are out. We're having an ice jenner. You know maybe. I've had a slightly dirty chopin martini than i switch over to a glass of nebi. Olo toasty enough. But i know. I'm not going to get a headache or sitting at dinner. Juvenile having a great conversation and go check the ferber. I wanna see what rigs is doing. I checked the firpo multiple time multiple times during my dinner. And then we see that riggs is durably laying half in his crate half out of his crazy. Because we don't like the door because we're not monsters it's just his safe-space and he's laying there. We both look at each other willing. And then i get horny. And i'm like jeff. Let's go home snuggle. The dog and then i'll logistic aquinas inside of me. That's what my love language. Is it soft pause at the foot of the bed unit. I mean i. Also i hear you. I love my cat. She hates it but she takes it. That's how delta is my cat's the best you know my theory on anti people. They've never had good cat. Also i don't go up to you. That's my biggest fucking thing is when people say oh you. The can't i hate cats. Oh you have a kid. I hate kids. What have i said that you know. I'm not into snakes. But they are people who have them. And i just keep my thoughts to myself actually. No fuck that. That's weird if you have a python in your house but regardless univer a long time. I've thought that i'd i'd have to start a crusade and stand up for camp people because it's bullshit to dog only people how you just throw out. Oh you can't fuck gross. Hate cats fuck you. Oh i'm so sorry. Madison you have they purebred golden doodle. And you've never known the love of a tinder siamese who curls up on you you know. My favorite thing is a kid was a come home from soccer. I was sweaty. I was chubby. I would take off my shin guards. And i'd let my cat lick my like my shipmates. To who would because you know your legs sweaty. you'll salty. Let the cat look like seven. And i would sit on the porch and i would sit there with my capri sun and some sort of all natural fruit. Roll up because robin never let us have junk in the house and my cat would look mike my shins and it was. She looked at me. I looked at her. And we both end agreement. You do you and i'm going to sit here and just chill and have my smack and my mom would always come out on the board ago. This is weird but your shins. So okay and that's bond. I have with my animals. So i'm sorry madison that you've never experienced the love of a feline again. I don't mean to make this sound sexual it completely just shins. Just that front chin under my shin guards were resist omar. Good over go. Why am i saying this out loud. Why am i admit i was. That kid asked my sister. She's always say are you letting the cat look your shins again. I'm sure it's fine. It's fine we. I i want to check on my pets while i'm out having a drink i check on my mother all the time i especially. Call my mom when i get drunk. You know the only time. I ever really got in trouble in high school. My parents didn't care if we partied. But i went to this really crazy strict high so they were like listen. You've got two weeks before graduation. All we want you to do. Just get through. We want to be able to graduate. We want to be able to get out without getting expelled because my high school done that and i was at a party. A raging party discouraged. Her name was georgia house. And i couldn't find my cell phone so instead of trying to call my cell phone to find myself when i called my house phone three. Am and i call my daddy answers the phone he man ends me. He's a we are you. You said you're at mary. That sounds watching movies. I am not a majority party account by my cell phone. But everything's great. I was wanted to call you and tell you how much i love you bank. Why would call my parents. When i was drunk in college all the time just to let them know i loved them and to see what's good was good down was good so next thing you know the time ever got in trouble in high school. My dad showed up to the party and he was like henry watching the door had no pants on but along t shirt because we just got skinny dipping in the bull. He goes getting the car he goes. Who's running this party. And shit mr reminds here. And he's a bad ass but he's been kissed and i i georgia's older brother. Who was was not old enough to be running the party. He was older by like a year. You know what i mean. He should not at any point. Been in charge of children. I mean we were all seventeen eighteen. It was what was so anyways long story short. I get in the car. I am so drunk that i put my hands so my mom shows up too and my dad this point. He told my mom listened. She never got in trouble. Let's fuck with her. Just fuck with her okay. They weren't actually matt so my dad drives my car home. My mom drives the card. They showed up in. I'm so drunk. I get in the back seat of my car. Put my hands behind my back. As if i've been arrested and my dad's like what are you doing can get in the frontiers like no officers. Slant i understand. I'm just going to sit quietly on the back seat. And i got all the way home and then i got out of the and helped my mom who was following us. Pull into the driveway. Like i was helping her taxi on a runway and i woke up the next morning at about one pm face down ass up no pants on big tea and i walk downstairs and i said i feel like i'm in trouble. My dad goes. You're grounded to graduation and that was a and then. I called all my guy friends. I was like what happened. And they were like you're out and he was like you. Guys can keep raging daughter house at school law and then i cried to my cat for four days. Alcohol has never affected me emotionally. We'd probably has more than anything. We'd i'll get a little e mo a get a little teary may be. Alcohol has never made me sad angry. I it just. It's not one of those things that changes my personality mushrooms. I cried really hard on mushrooms. Once because life was beautiful. The only thing alcohol does. I do like to reach out to people. And like if i haven't talked to a friend i'm the kind of person. Thank god i don't. I'm not like trying to chase after xs and i'm married and all this shit but i would. You could burn down my house. Kill my whole family murder. My cat and dog and i would reach out to you. If i've had a couple of drinks i'm missed. You hope you're well look. I become very forgiving. When i've had a couple of drinks and so if i want to call my family or check on my pets that's my perogatives. 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I fucking know one. We're going to have a baby. Karen s god my absolutely yes is to empathetic doctors. I love my clinic and appreciate all of them at is all eleven light. Have a great day cody from new jersey. First of all. i'm not trying to make a yoke. Your accents fantastic but literally everything about it like just your energy coming in. Hey girl cody from route gerardi. I love it. I love it i love you. I think you have like just every day. I can hear the joy in your voice. I can tell you're a bad bitch. Cody from new jersey. I'm going to start saying that like if somebody has a vibe dude if somebody is giving the vibes like if you're outfits good instead of being like yes. Queen cody from new jersey. Okay icy you cody from new jersey. Love it okay. That's our new thing like you're popping. Oh my god. Girl cody from new jersey. Well did you get those shoes. Cody from new jersey. Dying dying very down cody from new jersey. So good i hope cody that you are the kind of kid like i don't know i hope that like when you walk into your dorm in college and everyone's like like at orientation they're going around the circle and say hey you know he Lindsay lindsay from alabama. Hey karen from texas hey guys. I'm cody from new jersey. Welcome to rutgers. let's got fucked up everything about it. I love it. I live i love it. Okay let's get to your absolutely not. You're absolutely not was people automatically assuming a that. You should be pregnant. You could be pregnant and or lead a bitch fuck and live now cody. I understand what you're going through in the sense that you know i mean fuck y'all followed. Iv well okay. My egg freezing turn into no eggs turned into. We have one egg or embryo on is turned into. It could actually be really hard to get pregnant. We don't fucking no turn into okay. If you don't do this now you'll never have a child kind of situation. I get it. I've shared a lot of my life with you. You know it's so unbelievable to me. I think people come. They say it a 'cause they wanna relate to you be because they're bored or see misery loves company. I haven't truly figured it out. But i will have you know and this is fucked up. I'm being honest with you. I'm being dead ass straight ass realize honest with you. Went to a baby shower or two weeks ago. Very small very intimate. Everybody was pregnant to. They're pregnant with twins. Everybody was sitting around bitching about their kids. I understand that these are all moms together bitching about their kids. Everybody knows i mean my friends are my best friends the world i tell them everything. Until you guys everything. And i've been very open with the fact that hey may be very hard for jeff night. Ed children okay. We did what we could you know but we're not actively trying to get pregnant at this moment. We did proactive steps by getting Freezing an embryo so we have. We have an option an option period. Okay anyways i'm sitting at this fucking baby shower and everybody's bitching about their kids bitching hard bitching now granted. I understand why they're bitching. This is a safe space. It's like if you're at a and everyone's talking about their issues with meth. They're going to sit around and bitch about their issues with math. If we're sitting around at a baby shower and everyone's on their second or third kid there bitching about their first and second. You know what i mean. It is what it is. I'm not blaming these women. It's a safe space. Even my friend who's brandon was like. Oh god my one year old. You know what they were doing. I who i fought in a moment. I would be sensitive at this baby shower. And cody cody from new jersey. I want you to know. I hear you about doing ibm. And i think it's so guy. Commend you for trying and going through this and and it'll all work out soon. Because i'm gonna pray on it. But i literally left his baby shower and i panicked. I don't think jeff had sex and like a week okay. i panicked and i just went off. I'm sorry cody from new jersey. I hope that you can find this. Funny this is an absolutely not on me. But i panicked like not being when you're told that you can't get pregnant. Are you told it could be difficult. And then you sit around with everybody else who is pregnant and or hates their children in that moment. of course they love their kids. Of course they're amazing moms but when you're the only one child lives in a room with women who hate their children. At that moment. i panicked. I swerved sky so hard to cvs. And i texted my friend ago. Who's very pregnant right now. And i was like i love you i just. I just took plan beach. Because why did you take a plane being. I don't know i fucking panicked. She's a sex reasonably as a now. I just frigging panicked. And i took one and that's bad for you. It's bad if you didn't need it. But i just took it because i in it so that's where i was at. You know what i mean. That is where. I was at so anyways. That's where i met my life. I don't know what you need to know from that and that doesn't help your case situation because you're actively trying to get pregnant but that's just where matt i panicked panic plan b. You know it's plan a. But planning was to have a child fairly soon but plan b said. Just it's sunday. It was like sunday series and just did it. And now you know maybe it's going to be all fucked up and It's really bad for you. You know you probably didn't need it. And i just i don't know why i had a full blown. I mean when i say pulled into. Cvs on two wheels and the jetta two wheels car was tipped. Tokyo drifted did and jeff gets really upset with me. Because i took one like eight months ago and he was like you don't need to be on. Don't take the hormones if you don't need it look we're falling and the wilding is and i'm just being very honest with you. I was upper control for like three years. And this is why. It's such a red flag to me like i should have known that i wasn't as fertile as i thought we'd been doing the pull out. You know what i'm so. We're you just pulling break on situation and never once did i have pregnancy care. But then for some reason on a sunday when i hadn't probably see my husband and four days. I just took one. 'cause i panicked. Who does that cody from new jersey. Who does that. Please tell me who does that. That's where i'm at. But i want you to know him praying about your situation. I'm praying that you can get pregnant. Don't do what. I did absolutely not what i did but i want you to know it will happen for you. I love you. i'm thinking of you and listen if it's just really absolutely not do people chiming in and asking you these questions when it doesn't matter now here's the thing. I have a good friend and she had a really hard time breastfeeding and she get really sensitive about it and be like. I can't believe people asked me this at the end of the day. I genuinely think that people are just trying to find something to connect on and especially if somebody asks you if it's like an older aunt when of your mom's friends that's all they know how to talk about. You know what i mean. They're not gonna be able to chime in on the war in afghanistan not saying because they don't pay attention but because look what are they gonna ask you. Hey what do you think. About pulling out troops in afghanistan. You're nobody wants to talk about that. Get him saying so. Of course they're like. Oh you just got married. When are you getting pregnant little. Do they know it's simply from the lack of conversation. Starters does that give them an excuse. Sure doesn't but it's either that or they want to talk about the war or latte or the end of the war. I don't know what's going on over there. I've i've been paying attention. I do know what's going on. But do i want to talk about right now right now. No and if i just met you cody from new jersey. I wouldn't come up hager all. What do you think about removing troops from afghanistan. It's not making an excuse for these people's behavior. But i think it's just they're bad at starting conversations and if you ever do panic hanging out with some of your friends with multiple kids for a day and then i want you to just go home. Mak- small appointment get massage. Your feet rub. Get a facial and be like as frustrating as you are in this situation of trying to get pregnant. keep yourself some grace and just think. Hey i'm i can take a day and go to the spa. You know what i mean there. Is you still have that time to go. Enjoy yourself see need to take that in. You'd roll with okay. I'm gonna pray that you can get pregnant and then the people that are asking you someone having the baby just yelled. I'm cody from new jersey. And they'll shut the hell up the big wise she talking in the third person will. You're not you're not technically talking. You know what are i mean but i love you and i hear you got people. You know what people are asking me now. Why are you paying for the wedding. Aren't you already married. Why are you paying for the wedding. I've said this. And i'll say it again. One never had a fucking bachelorette party a wedding shower up an engagement party nothing. No one has celebrated juvenile so. I'm taking the time to do me right to. I've already paid vendors in italy. I can either a never see that money again or be. Go have the party. I've already paid for. I don't know if you know this. My husband's italian. Have you ever done business with italians shady as fuck in a good way. But if you think you're going to go to italy and get your money back from the open bar tab you opened in twenty nineteen you're out of your fucking mind three let me live. We'll have babies when we can have them. I probably should stop taking plan. B on a random sunday but i paint it and came home like i was like. Then i got frazzled. And he's like. Why did you do that. And i'm like i don't know everyone was angry at the baby shower. He was like had there. Are you insane own mike. He was so annoyed he was. Now you're gonna feel terrible. You're never horrific period. Why would you just panicked. I don't know why. I'm very logical. Grounded sensible person. But i panicked. And i guarantee if i told my doctor she'd be like arc. You're an asshole. You're an ass stop by ban it. So cody from new jersey. I'm thinking of you. I'm praying for your fertility and You know what again it's either they can ask you the uncomfortable question because they're uncomfortable or you could talk about the war in afghanistan just understand that those are the only two things that people understand how to talk about right now or they're going sprinkle in kobe so it's either what you think about the war what do you think about the delta variant or. When are you going to have a baby. That's the only three things that people know how to talk about bay. Say to me all the time. I mean before. Let me sidetrack before. I told people that we had fertility issues every single day of my life people. Dm what are you having baby when you're pregnant. I can't wait for you to be a mom. And i understand that a. It's really because people just want to be entertained. Like i know it's really just because people wanna be entertained by this shit like heather's going to swell. She's gonna get so fat. Her ankles are going to get so thick. We're here for it. We want to see her miserable. And of course. I wanna baby. Of course i wanna be a mother. But what i told jeff is we're gonna actively try after i get my tv show up once. That's up. and i got a season of the bell. Then we will look at our options. In the meantime i do panic drive bys of cbs's walgreens and rite aids to pick up the morning after bill. That i don't need. That's where i'm at emotionally spiraling so quality from new jersey. Just understand. I get the question every day to. Oh then when. I posted something about women's rights in texas. I had a woman jeff message and me a message saying she hoped that if we did get pregnant our baby would die so just so you know everyone's fucking crazy and you have to take everything with a grain of salt okay and that was an immediate lockton lead and report cody from new jersey. I love you at the end of the day. Just take a deep breath when people say crazy shit you like when he having the baby you'd be like hey you know what you respond to be like. Hey gun trying can't at the moment by and then just skied at a dunkin donuts. That's exactly what you do. i love you. I mean it praying for you. Let's get to the next place man. I love moderate -bility. Why because it gave me you gave me a look in an insight into my you know whether you wanna have kids now or tomorrow or later on down the road. 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I need your advice. How do i move on from this era cover because i- legit feel like i have. Ptsd from us now. Or i don't go to any any events with any large amount of people like literally had a twelve hour panic attacks and while trying to seek them and helping not to die so looking for words of wisdom and and peace and love and i love you. Grow serum wisconsin. Okay so just to summarize she Sentence earlier voicemail. That got cut off but basically she said she was at summer fest in minneapolis. I think and she went to the bar got to drinks. Drinks obviously was for her boyfriend. Which sarah i'm going to throw this out there. He obviously probably drank the drink. That was intended for you because if somebody saw you they probably didn't think you're about to hand this over to your boyfriend and fucking drugged you. So the boys mail that you just heard is just the tail end of it in summer summarizing. She says you know they couldn't even go to the concert. He got violently ill. It was a fucking shit show. Should never been so scared in her life and to see him just that out of it having to stay up all night take care of him. I mean it's fucking wild. It's wild alceu okay. This is the thing people who have been ruby before. I got slip. Something in college. And i've never been so sick in my life and thank god. One of my friends grabbed and got me out. I had one drink get a bharti wondering one. No no moss. One guy and i woke up the next day in my bed would literally like my stock. I i went as a fucking naughty nurse at a fucking party and three of my friends were like. We took you home as soon as that. I drink kit. You were down you. Couldn't you couldn't form a sentence you got sick and i'm like wight the i've never i. Yeah you whatever. Like i mean your blocked up before for sure. But they were like. You're one hundred percents slip. Something i mean. I had half of vodka cran and was down was down down down down and was down for like two days. There wasn't a brown out full blackout. Don't remember a thing. And one of my girlfriends i was with and my guy friend. They got me home. They're like what the fuck it's really scary absolutely not to drugging people. Also listen i know. I have all sorts of folks who listen to me and plenty of. Y'all i'm sure do recreational drugs. Have you seen that thing. That's gone around instagram. Where it shows the size of penny and it shows like tiny little almost like like almost looks like two grains assault that next to the penny and apparently that's fitting all what is spent all bitten. All is some sort of drug. I don't fucking know but it'll kill you and a of cocaine is laced with vinton all a lot of marijuana's you could think you're hitting ajay next thing. You know it's lists within your fucking dead doggy. Don't fuck around. don't. I'm sorry. I'm not yelling at you because you didn't fuck right. You ain't got a cocktail you probably got a. I don't know. Vox krant or something. And i am so sorry that happened to you but you know what sometimes we need and i. I'm not saying that. I wanted this to happen to you for this lesson. But thank you for calling in absolutely not the rupees but absolutely yes. Let's having a quick safety. Psa quick safety psa 'cause sometimes you need to hear it to remember. Hey you don't know what the fuck people are doing. you know. I saw those things. And i always thought they're kind of cheesy. Now fuck it. Have you seen those. They look at condoms for your drink. I don't know the name of the brand. Google drink condoms and you put them over your drink so nobody can slip anything in not a bad idea. Great idea probably thought of that. Somebody who got fucking roof once. I mean absolutely not. I can't just go out and smoke weed. I gotta worry about it. Being laced with some bullshit made in a lab somewhere and like china god. And this is why i don't even with the marijuana's i won't hit your your. We'd been i need. I need weed. That is i know it's a level of strength shit. My dad uses smoke. You feel me. I needed to be chill bra. I don't need that kush cush. That's going to send me into fucking orbit and the next thing you know i've stolen somebody's honda pilot going one hundred ten down the freeway when i thought i was just chilling out going to watch the housewives it just this is a good reminder. You don't know what other people's intentions are not to get y'all spooked not to make you think. Hey can't go out and have a good time but keep keep an eye out for each other and say. I'm sorry that you had to go through that. That is some fucking bullshit. You can't even enjoy chance the rapper. That's what she said earlier royston. We couldn't even see chance the rapper. You know what. I love chance. The rapper seems like a great guy then multiple songs about christ with bieber. I'm here for it. Yes praise the lord. And now i gotta worry about. I can't even remember bennigan's y'all remember those restaurants was of like a fancier chilies begins is probably as close to what the cheers bar was like as a cheers bar kind of looked like cheers bar. The bar from cheers. You know what i'm talking about. It's like i gotta worry about going into a bennigan's get numb doers. On the rocks. I gotta keep an eye got to put a condom over my damn drink. Because you can't trust anybody remember when we could run around. His children in our parents didn't have to worry about getting taken. You can't even go to fucking music festival anymore without somebody trying to slip something in your drink and just a side note. I'm literally. I'm not trying to sound ignorant in this moment but as a side note you know these these perverts at one rufi women to then take advantage of them. My experience when i was drugged is that i was violently. Ill violently ill all night. I don't know if that's normal reaction. Most people have but violently ill. So you riddle me this i wasn't i blacked out but i remember being horrifically ill. You're going to try and assault. Someone is getting violently. Ill riddle me that. How does that fucking work. Oh i'm sorry to go through that absolutely not. We can't have a good time. I can't even do see chance. Fucking rapper without worrying about covering madrid rink unbelievable. I'm glad you guys are okay. But hey thank you absolutely yes to this reminder absolutely asked to safety i watch out for your friends guys gals pets. I don't care if you get drugs. Apparently to and again. I don't i make jokes about mccain's i don't do the canes anymore. That's not it's not my thing now my jam but you need. There's barely feting all strips. You can test drugs tests this shit if you think if you think that you're cool and you're at a cool socialite party in new york and they don't you know and everyone's like oh it's fine. I'm a. I don't know somebody calls house and you don't think that they could also then get drug. Just you know when you can say to anybody who's offering at the canes at a party will you don't know whether or not this leads you say no thank you. I'm good thanks i've got. Ibs lots of excuses. Oh i know. I get horrible diarrhea. I get the immediate runs from drugs but thank you though. I'm trying to keep my drawers. Dry this evening saying out loud. It's empowering but also clearly you don't know somebody's buttons on the year drinks are just keep an eye out for each other and hey thank you for this safety. Psa reminder. i'm sorry you went through that and i hope your boyfriend's recovering. Well we needed to hear this. You know. I love it. Because i talk about all the time and it never gets old because why it's frigging delicious. I'm talking about busy v. i. z. Y. listen it a crisp and refreshing hard seltzer. Which is my favorite. They came out with a new flavor. 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Mel read huge fan of yours right back at you absolutely yes to women's golf. I love it. I mean. I've gone to hang out with a bad bitches in golf. You didn't know. I played golf in high school and get back into the sport because there's so many similarities between golfing comedy. The only thing the only person we have to blame ourselves because it's a solo sport but also we blame everybody else but ourselves like the conditions if you've ever played i don't know like pebble beach and it's windy. It's wendy off the coast to carmel. Like ooh oh schenken into the left because the the wind was coming one hundred and eighty miles an hour north. They're like that's not a thing happened on like but it was. You know in comedy we can blame. The crowd was too drunk. The i didn't feel the light. I was getting hot. As the stage was hot. The mic was weird. We laid everybody but actually my lack of being able to come up with good material for that five to ten minutes. But that's golf. You blame everybody. You only have yourself to blame but you blame everybody else. And i love it. Listen if you don't know what the solheim cup is it's essentially the female version of the ryder cup america versus europe. So hey i'm american shout team america at a lot of good friends that were Good friends new friends that i hope become good friends that were on the team over there. I'm obsessed with them. I was rooting for america. But mel read. I was cheering. You on as well from vegas. Because you're a bad bitch. So she was on team. Europe mel read. I wanna have you the podcast. Please come on. i'm obsessed with really honestly. I'm sliding into your world. I am a thirsty gulf bitch. And i wanna be friends with all the bad ask offers so just so you know a little back story. I went to the The players championship. That was at eastlake club. The men. I just want you to understand why i want to promote female women's golf so much the purse. Which is you know. Obviously the winnings for first place at this players championship was fifteen. Fuck and million dollars. Fifteen million dollars for one match. What are the women. get ten. Cain and nordstrom gift card the injustice of it all also. Women's golf is fucking rowdy. These bitches are savage. let's promote it. Get a lot of shit from team. America they're gonna to like heather. We love mel. But what the fuck but guess. What congratulations to team. Europe and the cool thing is about the ryder cup. Solheim is i mean people are going like people are dress like the american flag people address at the european flag with european union flag. Whatever that is i mean. It's rowdy people are getting fucked up there screaming. That's the way golf should be. It should be a sport where it's like. Somebody just eagled a hard hole. You know what i'm doing taking my top off and doing zuma's around the putting green thank you and if you don't know about golf it's really fucking hard so i encourage everybody. Go out and play a public course one day and then you'll understand. Why when you watch golf you like. That's fucking hard and you only have yourself to blame but you will blame everyone else. It's common theme in my life. So i get it. Golfs are comedies. Hard like when jeff was like heather. You're bad gambler honey. I've been gambling my entire life. I do comedy for a living riddle me. This at what point in your cerebral cortex does it make sense to say. I'm going to get up on a quiet stage and try and make people laugh for laughing. At what point are golfers going to take a tiny ball and try and put a tiny ball and a tiny hole six hundred yards away. At what point that makes sense with. Somehow we do it. We love it mel raid. I love it. I make you sound to australian. She's from she's from England and remember you. English accent rancho ritual being if. You've never heard this before you. Do you do it in the cadence of this retro ritual being su say two things fast and then one thing slow so like this ladies and gentlemen i woke amanda reed said two things fast and then one thing slow. I love sandwich cheese. That's rhetoric being mean between goading from new jersey and mel read from england. We're having some really good folks and even sarah. I'm sorry the little bit of a downer voicemail but you're you know from all you know. Minneapolis love it. I'm getting lots of accents. And i love the diversity. As if i came to london. Would y'all come to a show. I really want to go international side. Note to because my. Add is off the charts anybody in canada. You're like heather. What are you going to canada. Y'all just opened up your borders so now. The theaters are allowing us to book. So as soon as i can get a date. I'm going to get a date. But mel raid. Thanks for calling in banks and remember how to australian accent make every statement celica question. So i'll of saying jeez. I love seeing we. Cheese made it go up at the end like you don't know you love sandwiches that's how to do it. Fuck gaffer women's golf with it's insane. I was at this golf tournament. And unlike how much of these guys you know. How much does the winner make even like fourth place when like three million dollars just like fifteen mills big deal mike faulk when are when are we going to get the ladies to be able to play for fifteen mill. I mean these women can make money but not like that. And i know what somebody would say. We'll have their. We need more spectators of the sport. Well i'm gonna make ladies golf fucking fire. Because he's women are already bad ass and doing the damn thing so need to get my audience to come out this audience and we all get wasted on a golf course and cheer on bad bitches. Like mel read hit and birdies. then guess what. It's your boy josh. And we need to do it. God fired up. I love it. I love to see winners. I love to see people living their truth. I also like to hear people getting drunk and have a good time safely. You know where you wouldn't get roof eat. I mean knock on wood and the ladies golf tournament because it's mostly women out there looking out for each other and they have nine irons in their hand. And you know what would happen. If i saw you slipped something into one of my girlfriends drinks i take seven. Would to the back of your fucking kneecaps charles. I don't know if you noticed about a woman has intuition. And if i saw you even get close to my cocktail you take a putter right to the. What's the third i. Yeah i would hit you with the flat part of my putter in your third eye. Back the fuck up and let me have myrow zeh because my girl mel read over here is putting in for one and that makes sense to golfers. Sort of okay. Nail raid doing new australian male. Read now to being mill read or make irio courtenay nail read. We're gonna ever on the guest a love it. I love it. I love that i'm in this world. I love that i'm thirsty. You know it's kind like how blake griffin He's a basketball player. He got you started kind of like crushing hard on comedians. And he's been acting stuff and he hangs out with like only comics now. that's me. i'm the opposite. I'm a comedian. Whose only gonna hang out professional golfers. I'm really i'm just trying to Get in on that. Also shout out to two women who hang out with a lot of professional. Shanna to jill and anna. You know who you are. You're listening to the podcast. I love you mean it and thanks for tuning in i. That's a hole in one for having a good time. God i could come up with so many puns. So many golf funds via you know where you're not gonna be able to get fit and i'll tell you where a fucking ladies golf tournament 'cause so help me god. We're all looking out for each other. I will literally take the spikes on the bottom of my golf shoe and swipe you across a face so quick alenia visually impaired get back. I don't have time for scammers at a ladies golf event. We would also like to make more money. I say we. I'm going pro. Thank you mel. Congratulations congratulations to these solheim. European team very exciting also. Let's just promote women's sports. He was like the fucking basketball women basketball doing spectators. Well there could be i. I'm not a fan of basketball simply because the sound of the sneakers across the courts eric's too much. I'm not one of those people as sensitive ears. Like ooh nails on a chalkboard doesn't bother me i'm more of a texture and feel kind of person but yeah i don't i don't have time i basketball summer So my favorite but guess what should we support the wnba. Yeah fuck out we should. Should you be going onto lpga events. Yeah also if you're a single woman and you wanna get laid go to a pga event could not tell you. How many dudes at this tournament came up to me and took sell fees a khazar girlfriends. Were fans are wiser fans or they were like. Can you get me laid moran told me me on your instagram. If you are single ladies the sky club. I've told you this or a golf tournament for ladies ormen because lots dudes go watch ladies golf. A 'cause they're either perverts or be. I don't know maybe they could be safe fans but after this podcast questionable malic. Can we have you on the podcast. And yeah let's do it. Let's fuck and make it happen. Y'all thank you for tuning in. I love and adore each. And every one of you. I'm going on a quick little vaca-. I'm hitting italia across the river. Hey i'm calling from the jarrige on ever forget. Oh my god girl you look. So cody from new jersey. You look god. That's what that means is make up to you and they're like you know people say tear mitsubishi which also that was the other thing being at alterman the amount of men that would whisper it to me here. You have a turbo subic. Do you listen to like all. Sometimes the core with my wife. And guess what i enjoy it too like. They're almost ashamed to say that. They listen to a woman's body. Yuki your rick are really enjoy. My toyota tacoma my way to my engineering job. I have sometimes masturbated in the parking lot to your sweet soul. Drew voice that. I'm like honestly thank you. I'll take it do not me though much love as always you can call into the hotline eight hundred. Two one three seven five zero three. I'm going to be popping over to europe. Hopefully for a little trip gotta do some more wedding planning to do the most in the lease with my little virgo birthday boy aka the italian stallion who is playing golf right now at a lotion. One of the top courses in the country with another professional female golfer. Maria fosse you. I also want to get on the podcasts. If you don't know shit about golf it's okay. We're not gonna talk about the semantics of golf. I actually don't want to talk about the sport at all. I wanted to talk about bad bitches doing good shit shanna to maria t mexico. Lego love you guys mean it as always you can call the hotline eight hundred two one three seven five zero three and get your tickets to tour. Heather on tour dot com. I will see the flip side at a really their cheech about things so much for listening to today's episode. Don't forget to subscribe racism lieber review and as always follow me on instagram at heather. Kay mcmahon see you guys soon trey great safe.

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Wonderful! 195: Transubstantiated Cheetos

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Wonderful! 195: Transubstantiated Cheetos

"Hi this is rachel mcelroy hello this is griffin mcelroy and this is wonderful iraq to with lori and conserve. Remind why i so. Here's the thing. I stopped taking allergy medicine for a while. And i was fine. No k were you the were you though. Apparently not. apparently you weren't. Apparently a storm was brewing. And then mold mould took over. Mold is in control of austin. Now we have lost sauced into the mold. And i guess we're gonna have to move to new braunfels round rock the sort of outlying areas because it's the mold city now We're just living in it. But i wouldn't call what you're doing right now living even yes. No i know. And it's these history means. I think i don't know about them and eighty. Here's the thing. I'm worried i'm going to have to netti pot and i'm scared and i don't want to. You should use the baby's sailing blaster. This sailing knows glasser god on. There's a okay if you never had a baby. They give full of bad stuff in their nose region. And they're so y'all so wicked stoops that they don't know how to blow their nose yet and so you got to get in there with either drops which is how a real pedestrian way of clearing out. But then they make these like sailing blasters that like just gets up in there and it's just like sh- and every time i see that happen. The baby obviously doesn't care for it until it gets all that bad stuff out of there and i think if only so simple for me in adult man. Yeah those have you tried it. I haven't I'm afraid to harness the. Yeah you're right but the scary thing. I think you're going to have to nettie baby. The mold is inside you now. The call is coming from inside the knows. I know anyway this this. We're going to try very hard to make this. Not sonically unpleasant episode of our podcast. Wonderful to listen to raise putting on a very brave face. And i'm so glad that you're here. Do you want to just do it. Just do the damn thing. Do you have a small wonder I'm gonna say this is something we talked about. Recently when barbecue places have really good bread. Yes true and it's it's not. It's not a reliable thing a lot of barbecue places like we don't need good bread. Our barbecue stands alone. Yeah but sometimes they got that really good gotta have that thick moist bread. Yeah that fick damp bread. That can really stop it. Stop it up south as the only only word that's appropriate is true. We got some good styles switch. Bbq the other day. And it's good. It's good so spicy ribs. Eight it right before filming a video project doing yesterday. Which was one of the bigger mistakes. I've made in my life because i had the spicy mouth while we recording the whole time hausa folks. I'm gonna say. I've been making game boys again lately and i talked about that. But man. There's so many gameboy games that are so choice hun. Some good ones tetris. Heard of it is a good one castle. Vania super mario land to the six golden coins. Can't beat this stuff. Poke on pinball paloma trading. That henry was getting into yesterday or castle. The castle vania adventure. Yeah a good one a little too difficult thing. About those gameboy games folks. Their hardest hell. They're extremely hard because they're usually pretty short and so they need to be impossible in order to keep you from beating them in like ten minutes But man i'm getting. I'm getting Nostalgic in my middle age here But i guess i've been. I've been pretty nostalgic. My whole life for the better days you know. Nineteen ninety-one added all figured out. Yeah go i this week do unless you wanna go. I don't know tell me. Do you got like if you have the energy if you have momentum right now and you wanna just like take my spot so you can be done talking for the episode and breasts. Rest your your larynx or whatever is that. It's a beautiful gesture. But i would like to keep just the progress alive with our standard approach. Okay vending machines vending machines. These are robot stores. That are very little. They are automated snack shopping experiences. Where the coins bills go into the machine and melba toast comes out or there's a bad first example. I know some winter fresh pops out do they still. I don't even think they make winter fresh that much anymore. I mean doritos would have been a safe bet. Doritos are always a safe bet. Big pair with everything. I can think of a lot of vending machines that have made. Real differences is in my life. I never worked at an office. That had a vending machine in it. But like i can think of at huntington city hall where we used to do a bunch of plays. They had a vending machine in the basement. Where i would go down there. You know with a buck and come back. Up with mccall it now gobble that down greedily in the bathroom so nobody else would ask for a my watch. Oh i can think of all vending machines at huntington high school. I'm thinking of handicaps hot fries. I'm thinking of honey buns. I'm thinking of fruit. Ah which i'm i talk about very frequently and this and other shows i can think of these vending machines that have made real differences in my life. The one tricky thing about of eddie machine and it makes me surprise That they are still as popular as they are is that you do not know how old the products are inside while they're usually pretty shelf stable. Yeah you're not buying a lot of milk out of out of a vending machine. That's true but sometimes you'll be like oh a chocolate donut. Don't mind if i do and then it'll drop down and you'll be like ooh you'll hear it hit the bottom as it drops down like shit. That's not gonna be good. Yeah i guess. There's a baked good component to a lot of vending machines like little hand pie. Those little tiny apple pies the hostess pies. Yes those those aren't as shelf stable as a as a honeybunch honeybunch. Swear to god you could eat a fossil of hunting blind and you would still like a pretty okay. Time with Is there also anything. More thrilling than when you're on a road trip and you stop it like a arrest. Stop and they just have a room full of vending machines. Where like you can see all of these branching pathways all these sliding doors in front of you of snack. Journeys that you go on for the rest of the trip. You know what. I mean You're looking around. And there's like fifteen vending machines. There's like ice cream. Vending machines fucked up and then you're like gummy lifesavers. You can go nuts on it. I think that's one of the most poignant. Childhood memories of mine is just looking forward to the rest. Stop on the on the car trips. I could get some gummy lifesavers to enjoy while. I'm in the backseat playing pokemon silver there. There are certain foods that i feel like i may have only gotten out of any machine like i feel like a three musketeers. For whatever reason within the vending machine want it yeah. I don't know that i've I don't know that i've ever had andy capp's hot fries bought in the wild. I think those only exist inside vending machines. I think the vending machine produces it like sort of sweat like a sort of like natural organic byproduct of the commission like any top fries just sort of appear inside of because i've never had a hot fries like cheeto. It is a space spicy. it's bad end. Caps fries are pretty rough. I think once you eat a talkie once. You're like oh okay. That's a good spicy flavor and caps. Hot fries are just sort of like crunchy pepper spray. Just like crunchy chemical burning sensation in the mouth. Now super pleasant. But even if i'm like in a hurry and i'm not particularly hungry like at the airport by baggage claim. They have vending machines at the austin airport. And i'm never like. I'm always like i gotta get my bags and get the fuck outta here like everybody else said it baggage claim in an airport. But if i see that vending machine. I will be inside. But what is what's going on here any any friends in here. Like i'm going to see some like like i'm gonna see tay stations in there and be like what. The forty stations are back did is with a inflation. Can you get stuff under a dollar and of any machine. Tell me about it right. I think you can probably still get a candy bar for seventy five cents. But i'm not. I don't think that's true. But i think you can get like a five pack. A big red attach babe. I can't run for president. I don't even think they're make him big red anymore. So i think we're both pretty were aging ourselves quite a bit. There's zero percent chance anybody listening to this news. What free topiary is. If they're under the age of you know i'm going to say twenty seven years old Which does describe a fair portion of our audience. I don't even eat that many snacks these days. I love a pretty snack. Free lifestyle except the nighttime when i snack goblin. But that's that's my own supply like i know what i'm getting into From on the go. Which i'm also not time. I'm just not usually in like a vending machine. But i still just want to dip in and knowing the convenience of knowing that i can satisfy this human need of mine very quickly with a you know. Dollar biller swipe credit card. So very exciting to me. I have been sitting here so anxious to hear about the history of okay. Well what if. I told you that the first one dates back to lake antiquity. The very first sort of concept of vending machine can be sourced back to hero of alexandria the like ancient like engineer and he made a holy water dispenser where you put a coin in the slot and it would fall onto a lever and that would release the faucet that would dispense the holy water and then the coin would slowly slide off the lever and when it fell out a counterweight would pop right back closed so you put a little coin in and you get a ghoushe holy water. I don't know what to do with that whole. Yeah you like. Put your little hand in there. Come with a little little slurpee cup. Like a low. Conical dixie situation. I don't know. I don't know if you just take it straight to the dome like if you just open up the mountain just like your head stick your head in there and just go wild. I don't know it seems like a danger. Because i'm sure hero of alexandria did like creighton. Import work here. But i bet. He didn't have sort of safeguards in place for like. You know you stick your tongue in the faucet and then it closes and then it's like well i've done now. I've died eating their price in jalan to. There's a secret slump. A hero alexandria. Yeah and here's the thing and this is fucked up pretty probably sacrileges but if have you ever dunked hot fries in hollywood if you haven't. It's like the new french fries in a in a frosty. It's like it's legit really. Good because the fries get really soggy so you can just kind of like slurp it down but also like any impurities inside of you are burned out by the hot fry powder and the holy water. Can that be a her sign off now for our show what slurp down now and don't dunk hot fries and your holy water. I think we would have to be very different plan at work. And then you get like commercial coin-operated machines in the the late nineteenth century Mostly like when. You're are introduced to distribute envelopes postcards and notepaper boring In eighteen eighty eight. Thomas adams gum company introduced vending machines on new york city subway platforms. That dispensed tutti fruity gum But we know as the modern gumbo machine was invented in nineteen. Oh seven and then of course. Y'all have beverage vending machines which date back to the late nineteenth century. I introduced in perry. Were they would Dispense beer wine and liquor that's that's one way to do it. And then cigarette machines are like a weird thing. Yeah that like were you too young to. Oh god no no i But there again. There probably are some folks who are who listen to this. You could just buy cigarettes out a little vending machine and it was a specialized one where it was more horizontal and all the packs of cigarettes with a little knob underneath. And you put the money in and pull the knob and a pack of cigarettes would come out. Yeah i don't know if you Had the experience of of trouble making teens identifying those machines that were unsupervised but That was that was the way the kids would get cigarettes. I mean could sneak in there was one at the huntington tristate airport when i was a kid that's fucking wild so attitudes towards tobacco. Consumption have changed particularly in the united states. So you don't really see anymore. There's a really cool hotel fan. I wanna say minneapolis or something that we stayed at a couple of times whenever we've gone touring that sells little tiny cigarette box sized paintings that artists and then putting the machine you put five bucks in and then you can pull the nominal painting pops out. That's acute idea but they are still sort of Prevalent in places like germany and japan. Japan is at lake. Of course the sort of Ruler of this domain. They have more vending machines per capita than any other country on the planet and they are so legit you can get some boss coffee in one and then turn around and get like some flowers and a fucking handkerchief and necktie out of another one like There is it is genuinely. It feels like a very touristy thing. Go go to japan and use the vending machines. But if somebody who likes vending machine. I guess fucking terrell. I like that character by the way yeah thanks. He's he's very busy asked. Yeah and he's got kind of a fun voice and i pitched that show to the travel channel. Which is just like. Let me go to you. Know wherever angkor watt and just be like no vending machines. Here see next week you next time up much. Up two buildings are so small. No vending machines five. I was really hoping you would talk about the physics of the vending machine. Because i think a lot about how they decide what is an acceptable distance for an item to fall. Oh yeah you know like get something at top row you gotta think one like what are you put on the top. Row that safe all that far. Yeah you would think that vending machines would have a like concave like facade so that you get something off top row like sly usual. You see like chips up there which makes sense because you could drop chips. Okay if they put the lifesavers up there you're you're huffing dust at nothing left for you. Hey i don't have anything else thing. Spinning machines machines you know. I'm a. I'm a sucker for convenience and like you really can't get much more convenient than here's a box but a dollar in your some skittles and get the fuck outta here. Yeah let's talk to anybody at all. Nope hey can i steal your way. Cool this podcast is sponsored by better. Help online therapy. You don't need the two of us to tell you that life can get pretty dang stressful. Sometimes maybe it's work. Maybe it's a business. Maybe it's your job. Those are all three the same thing. 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I to wish you a happy two years of marriage or eleven years together or happy birthday or maybe happy candidate today. Only time will tell my love for you burns brighter than the intensity of thousand suns and each moment we are apart feels like an eternity of longing to be back in your arms very sweet. But if it burn with the tennessee of a thousand suns the planet will be uninhabitable. And i don't want to split hairs But i'm not the one over here. Talking about obliterating the planet all life funding with the intensity of one son is still a little too much true for this planet earth. I love you at the intensity of like thirty. I max screens which is still like inconceivably. Bright and powerful. But it's not going to pose a threat to human existence as we know it just san think about these things. People actions have consequences. Here's a message for stephen. It's from cat. Who says my spicy turn up. I can't begin to tell you how lucky i am to a found you. 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Yes you're by the way you are looking hale and hearty over there Vending machine segment. He'll he'll you. I think also you ate some hot fries holy water during the break and that has really sizzled out something so sonically pleasing about that to me. Hot fries and holy water. Yeah no it's definitely. It's definitely something it could be like. It could be any genre of music you know like if you were to write a song to a country so you like like punk like a r&b. There's a lot of potential assure a which leads me to my topic which is consecrated talking trans substantiate. Yes what i was thinking of. You get up to do communion and they put a hot prior on your tongue. You eat that and it turns into the body christ inside of you love it. I know my my. I my my i. Only topic is a american singer. By the name of remmy francis wolff. That's a cool name yeah She actually her. I kind of public. Appearance was on american idol. Twenty fourteen. I feel like there is a whole i fell off that show obviously I don't even know when i watched. Clay can do his do his business up there. I definitely saw bo by his business. Forget when that was But there's like a whole genre of musicians now. That came out of american idol. That i don't know that that's where they came out of. So she she was not actually like a contestant that hung around for the season she at seventeen saying. Let's get it on for jennifer lopez keith. Urban harry connick junior. Are those the hose in twenty fourteen. Yeah wild okay I don't think they're still there necessarily but that was that year But she did not continue through the season but she Is kind of incredible. Listen to the song play sent you. Yeah she's like a a mix of like a tremendous number of of genres right I of course turned to pitchfork because they have such a concise way of referencing. All of the influences And they said that wolf exists at the center of a ven diagram that includes the post. Pc music hyper pop contingent feel-good lo fi bedroom pop artists and the current wave of funk and disco. Yeah the you can't beat that a lot of really good stuff. Fun stuff I actually saw. I heard her on the radio the other day. Whoa austin city limits radio will occasionally play artists that are either slated to come to town or have been in town and it was just a total surprise. Had never heard it and i did the thing that people that listen to the radio do where i was like rummy will fermi will you'll firm. You will fly all the way to remember like remember this artist so i wanted to play a little bit by her thinking. I think i'm gonna do Grumpy old man. okay. There's things over the defensive. I think so effective defensive deficient aspen. So you can see. She's he's good with a hook. Yes it's kind of fun. Poppy sound but it feels a little different in her music videos. If you have a chance to check them out you know. When i was reading about her i was like this reminds me a lot of grooves in the heart videos and and luckily when i was reading about her they talked about how that she She was really influenced by that In addition to Janet jackson beck santana jack white tuba motto And then art like old like staple artists like a shock. A con and daryl hall david byrne michael mcdonald erica. Do like all over the place. Just somebody that you know loves music. She actually went to college. At the usc. Thorp school of music Finished in twenty eighteen. Q play also that part of that song where multiple walter matthau gets on and does like averse. He does like a guest verse shit. Who is the other guy grumpy old men you ever see that flick now but i obviously i. I am familiar with it. Yeah you man. Am i five fucking years old. I feel like a like a crypt keeper. Always have been as part of what drew me to you. Is it jack lemmon. Yes i just googled. It as you were as you were stumbling. Remember as jack linen jack. Limon lemon it's a fun name if you've never seen the movie it's too old gentleman. Slow are really fucking cantankerous. And that's about it. They made two of them two of them. They may grumpy all men than they made. Grumpier old men even more pissed off now on. I don't know do they hold up at the second segment to the show. What's up everybody. We're very mac. The old format just for me though. Because i'm doing grumpy. All men rates was going to do grumpier old and then they may want where they were. The president i think and it was called head of head of state or was that the chris rock movie where he became the press griffin you. Sometimes you go places. I can't go with you and it makes me so lonely. I'm so sorry. I told i warned you texans yours like i'm going to do a whole walter matthau through review on this episode. Should've known when. I sent you that song. I should have thought. Wait wait wait wait wait no yeah only listen to like a few bars event my favorite clips from the funny Grumpy old man movie so anyway. She has a new album. Coming out october. Fifteenth called jew. Now which is the name of her dog. She has done a lot of her music producing in the pandemic and so Her first biggest performance was slated to be bonnaroo on september fourth. Not really sure as of this recording the status of that performance man. Yeah but she's also coming austin city limits this year hans fine so there's bright bright future ahead i also wanted to recommend An album of her new track is called liquor store which apparently got a boost when willow smith covered it on instagram. Ooh that's good. He's also had some attention from john mayer who apparently like reach out to her just to be like. Hey crush school track She has released. Ap's but this will be her first big album She had a ep your dog and then in the year later in twenty twenty a follow up called allergic to dogs exclusive. What was the first one. You're a dog. I thought you said euro dog to like that though is a german shepherd a euro dog. You gotta love it. Some many like french bulldog is a euro dog. Somebody potential names for this episode. I'm always looking for the song of the summer. And i know it is about to be september. We'll be september as of the airing of this episode. But i really. I feel like remmy wilshire. Had the song summer if she doesn't already we haven't we haven't mentioned on a show first of all we did. Just watch that episode lingard again with christopher joyce with christopher jackson singing shujaat ponta bought. But i'm going to say some of the summer at least for me is my own drum. from vivo particularly the messiah remix. A comes in at the leash it. Well i wanna say that. Maybe wolf has a sunland this summer though out. 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Part 2:  Nick Tammaro, Vic Stauffer, Dick Powell, Rick Hammerle,Mike Welsch

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Part 2: Nick Tammaro, Vic Stauffer, Dick Powell, Rick Hammerle,Mike Welsch

"Our break and when we come back. Dick powell gonna swing in later vic staufer and hammer nick tomorrow. Mike welch weekend preview at the racist. Back after this apple with steve on sirius. Xm radio big exciting southern california thoroughbred daytime racing circuit continues with the la county. Fair meet at los alamos racecourse. The meat is off to a great start with strong fields. Throughout and the state's action continues at the orange county. Track headed by the los alamos futurity on saturday december nineteenth. He threw has seen some tremendous winners in years. Past like standouts mckinsey in two thousand seventeen improbable in two thousand and eighteen thousand words. Two thousand nine nineteen watching wager on all the great racing action on tv jeep plus all other major. Eighty w providers had an open satellite locations on weekdays. Are i post will be one pm while we will feature at twelve thirty pm first. Time plus are wagering. 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And it came down to zach burton and joe marrero but Holly doyle with a win. that Certainly was historic and before we talk about saturday night. Sunday morning and the international is a recap of wednesday deca morning. Good morning steve. And i was a lot of fun. they they came up with a different system of assigning manse to the twelve rider. Six domestic six international and everyone before and after the event was happy with the way it worked out that they balanced everything pretty well so the first leg joe pulls off an upset with the fifteen two one shot gotten of garo and that. Kinda got things going william. Buick was second than homeless third. 'cause they go twelve six four scoring set in the next leg alexi bell. When's we gallon crowned at nine thousand nine hundred one Zach person was second. I was critical peers. Child doodo stirred. Now we go onto the third leg and zack calls that off and joe run second karen. Keaton was third. So act rubbed this winter for tony millard. And apparently they have some wicked history between them. It was the first time. 'cause ridden form and fifteen years holy cow. He was kind of yeah he was. I'm sorry five years since twenty fifty s but have been in tight environment like that. That's that's a long time and They you know zach was kind of fooling around in the winter picture and stuff and and then he made a statement. You know maybe we can put this all behind us and all that so that was good to see when well. Now it's tied up going to the last leg between zach and joe now against the last leg and as we said the when edwards tuesday that holly doyle had about the strongest in the four races for david hayes and number twelve harmony and blessed. She gave him just a brilliant ride. Now zac was on flying bonus who was very very fast and they even knapsack going into the last race you know. What do you think is like you know i. I know i'll be fine just on how long well from the twelve. Th hole not three hole. He gunned him made a made a relatively easy lead and and holly just sat right off his shoulder bite at a time. Wait as long as possible. And then she opened up with four hundred meters to go even even the track announces holly throwing everything. She has which ones because he was a pretty handy. Three quarter length winner so holly wins a an oncoming international jockey race. She wants pyan for third equal third with the alexi adele. And because zack held on for third in a dead heat for third place he winds up. Clenching the international jockey champion for the second time i think he warning the twenty seventeen we wanted again the other night zach spin by him standards ice cold. He's coming to meet suspension so he hadn't even been writing so for him battling to win but have tree wins on card kind of gets him back on track. Unfortunately for the ryder standings joe moreira his fourth straight race card with three wins so jobless piling up. I mean he's ahead of his record. Pace of one hundred seventy wins a couple of years ago. So jones a dominant force. But zach is the one who gets the money and holly doyle gotta just a ton of publicity. She had wonderful things to say after the race her partner time our client and timeout a big year. He won a couple races down in australia. For william haggas and then he wound up winning on british champions day. Holly one a british champions day so that they're going all over the world when it rises so it's great to see her when The fourth leg of the international along jeans international jockey championships. so it was. It was a lot of fun You could see the jocks really took it seriously I think that was more attitudinal. That when they saw the rides had been spread out evenly that no one really had a gripe renovation they just give it their best and sack out the wind and holly gets In the stark one very much so well the The the fun and hijinks on that front give way to really international competition at a premium and the four races and honestly not just the four races because the rest of the steak and andy capp. races that buffet the either side as well as that Highland real in between the four races. It's a really good night racing. It has and i did the mets Thirteen million five hundred thousand dollars in. Us dollars purse. Money for saturday's handwriting. And there's about Eleven or twelve million in the four long jeans international races one one quick thing that actually two quick things that have happened kristof simion has been over there and he tested twice negative but some reason they had test again and waiting results so he is not going to ride. On sunday. they're thinking Maybe sunday december twentieth. 'cause if you remember christoph going to stay there for two months but it was supposed to kick off the sunday in the international racist so he's on shelf and getting all testing correct and out of the way and then yesterday as this is one reason why i'm not on social media that pertinent sent out a tweet that says has a jockey in hong kong just tested positive to covert question more. Well the hong kong stewart saw that and saxton fine forty thousand dollars hong kong money which is off of five thousand u. dot or not like that and they came right down on some about the so that leads us to saturday and it. It's kind of a sometimes i. I like the newborn horses. Obviously but then. I'm looking at japanese. Top point of local laws is tough. And and you don't wanna go with all of them. You don't want stay with one team before races but that when you split them up run the risk of losing all four races having wrong each time but i but i i think aiden will be tough but The first leg would be the vase. This is the mile and a half race and that'll be a Let's see one. Am eastern time. So if you're on the west coast this is not bad for you. Know you getting space. Ten ten o'clock at night. It's pretty early so long. hong kong vaz's mile and a half true a field of only seven. I want to local laws exalting. He's had two sons this year and he was second bout times to ferrari but he was carrying high weight. And it just looks like tony. Cruz has just prime them. Perfectly fa- saturday nights event. He obviously loves a mile and a half four wins at the distance and only six tries and he's by teofilo low. Who had who. Addison sessional start all over the world. I think he wound up with six group on one is so mile and a half right up his alley joys post five pearn will probably settle them not too far back but get him to settle and see what kind of pace there is I want him with him on top and obviously all the beat is mogul. Then run particularly well in the breeders cup turf but his race and harris which a crazy schedule this year. The grand prairie which is usually run best deal day was put off to the beginning of september and he won that in the horsey beat that day in swoop came back and Was a terrific second and the ark behind saad size and before that he was third behind pile driver. Who had a terrific year. So boggles been against the best. He had a little bit of interrupted season because he wasn't able to run in the arc of that feed ish the contaminated feed and So he did come here for the breeders cup and ring okay but eighteen just kind of pasta rice and start the race was kinda messy but he does get ground that i think you'll like and the question is can he be the the local hard knock her but i think exalting can handle them. Hopefully we'll go off seconds pricing. Get three to one on him. So i'm gonna go exalted and vogel in hong kong vase the hong kong sprint fourteen horses and it was really tough position. Wind up watching the post position draw live the other night. It was on a ten o'clock at night kind of ten. Am their time. Excuse me and unfortunately to the big choices. Classic legend through the rail. And who's the other one that you fourteen Dannon smash japanese horse drew post fourteen. So that's awfully tough. To overcome their classic legends. Problem is going to begin. Shuffled does Benson i'll have to use them too hard to get up and try to beat some at a traffic or if he doesn't how much traffic is going to be an occasionally these rations day all swing out turning home and as roma money inside but i i just don't get the feeling that the inside has the better footing. Ucd sources kgo eight nine wide down the stretch and they seem to be on pretty good ground. So i'm just tossing closely legend out completely. Now he just one everest The richest sprint race in the world. Fifteen sixteen million dollars australia. So but casper has and he's gonna stay in hong kong so y- be great to win those rights but you know some other big rights is coming up for him. So i'm tossing him. And unfortunately the japanese dannon smash does have speed but as ryan morgan have to you know. Use too much speed I think he will. And i don't i don't see how he can overcome pulse fourteen so all that said. I'm going to go for good of an upset here. Number seven wishful thinker to starts back in the In the permeable handicapped group to he went one zero seven and change. He sat off the pace. He finished tremendously last. Half was forty. Four change Just just was terrific. That was over track shot and good the firm which will probably have again sunday morning. Many came back in the jockey. Club sprint on november. Twenty second and just just didn't do well as in like fan as she was ninth behind hot king. Who will be one of the choices for the locals. But i think wishful thinking based on that too that race to starts back not bad at in this race last year. He's only beaten a length and a half so he can compete against caliber competition. And i think If he runs to race to back he's right in news right in and out of price. So i'm gonna go for thinker on top and then The the hometown favorite number too hot king prawn john sides and joe moreira. They won their last thought. They won the jockey club. Sprint came from off the pace dominated in the stretch. And you know john size is going to have the source. Just ready to go and you know with joe mary. He got the hottest jockey and hong kong pushing all the buttons correctly. But i'm trying out the classic legend when i'm thrown out Dannon smashed the five because of the drawer. Jeff did them no favours and casper. Was that the drawer. You kind of incognito. He had hooded sweatshirt but he had to go up to the board and draw the postition. He clearly wasn't too happy drawing the one so well love bolton's try to beat them. We want to see him but we want to take a lot of money so that if we do when we get a better price well wish will longer wishful thinkers going to be a a a a monster number. And you know there's there's a it's funny There's three horses that that lined up In here at least numerically. Not in not in the barrier but Wishful thinker computer patch and re tan. And when you look at the three of them dick it. It's kind of funny. Because they've you know they've they've been mixing it up on a steady basis with hot king prawn and they've all kind of taken their turns including computer patch and wishful thinking. Winning reten seems to hit the board on a regular basis so really all three of them And they're all going to be square prices. Maybe computer patch probably with sumi on the shortest of the three but There there really are some you know some indices that say you know the the ones the horses locally that you know that have been you know holding their own using king prawn as as the measuring stick Have a real shot in here. Depending on how it unfolds and computer patches only four year old so as you can see foreman really progressed. And he's he's doing well this year this season. And he's taken on the big boys and handling it so he has. He has an upside. Obviously you know retain as a proven commodity suharto. I remember when tan race in australia's very very good you come here for years and has been against beauty generation and golden sexy. So they haven't they haven't limited him to twelve hundred meters exclusively but he obviously has a ton of talent and yes. It's it's it's what fourteen horses you gonna need a trip and also remember he's a level weights system that you know you normal hong kong handicapped so some horses of picking up some of them again the break in the weights but but I'll just. I'll just take the price and the like a race like this tomorrow. Steve beginning around noontime The current odds will be available. So i will be checking that during the day especially later in the evening and see what the price is going to be not just one prices that they give you the place prices so i wish i think it could be ten to one in the place till well. I gotta run first second third. That's that's ten to one. That's that's a. That's a proposition. So i'll be looking at that as everyone should be looking at those current odds to get where the money's going another. We've talked often the kind of stays the you know. The prices kind of stay together right up until palestine. There aren't any big shifts Even though they have less that combating the polls a big enough that not that affected so you can take advantage of that you can see is classic. Legend take the money or get ignored a little bit because the post and just different things like that. So it gives you a good reference point to focus handicapping. Well ed We can do dick jump to might as well jump to the mile and the cop and then maybe we'll skip back in You know to the that highland real andy capp in between. But let's stay with the. Let's say with the irs. I while the mile drew ten golden sixty. The local horses won ten straight. And it's now fly in group on company for the first time now almost those races. He won last year when not group races because they were they were hong kong races limited the four year old so their those classified but he's already won a couple of group to a couple of trees. He has just reenact acceleration. He's just push button vincent. How draws po. Seven should have no trouble. They got a nice run You know down the backstretch and they should they should. They should get settled and sort sorted out pretty well. The question would goals in. Sixty is kenny. Push-button against international forces job is shown on kong. That turn of foot. That he has so steph. Stating i'm going eight and o'brien here in order australia. And i watched a couple of interviews with aiden and his year was kind of all screwed up to that they had them all over the place Despite the pedigree and everything else he kind of raced in racist you might not have thought he would have i know. They had high high expectations from they did run them in the irish star. Be back in june but that was kinda season got thrown together pretty quickly after the called and i. I don't think anything really went right until he comes over to the breeders cup and that was a bold move for them. 'cause when he came to the breeders cup he was not in the race. He had drawn into the rice so he did drawer in he was fifteen also eligible. And he's i think he got the trip that he's gonna get here. He draws post one in this race. But i think he'll drop back. And i think will get them to the outside and if he has that kind of trip he just has a he doesn't have that golden sixty sudden acceleration. He has like a half mile grind. That can just chew up horses. And and i just think would've australia hasn't been it's not. It's the end of the season for them but that hasn't been the end of a really hard season like somebody sauces. So i think he still has some bullets to fire and he showed going to mile keelan he. He can handle a mile. So i'm going with him and golden sixty mile and then the cup which is run at a mile and a quarter and that true field of eight and this is the one magical one bright chihuri. Time-warp toby the early leader bannon premium. Who i was reading the other day he he worked out the other day he worked the came on his last four hundred meters in twenty two point seven so he seems to be on his game. Shipped handled everything so far I'm going with magical. I i just think her season. That's been drained. A win against guy at was just as good a race as the world has seen this in. That was carrying hundred. Thirty two pounds going up going up against him and taking the fight him half half mile out and just take him apart. Bit by bit and beating sites says who was up to track that they who wins the arc. That was reagan. came back. Soft turf got by adia tom. Mark quinn's horse and champion stakes and then When when she went to the breeders cup shoot there's nothing wrong with her but panorama was bed affiliate at the tunnel wash or the economists assume great form and she's only being being a length as the favorite and they've had this race and their mind for most of the year and she'll be super super top. She goes for an eighth group. One one and i don't see her losing to these horses. Second i'm gonna go with the franchise skeleton Buddha's gonna to reidy roads last time. Second behind Adia head of magical and the champion stakes abou was on the soft ground or freedoms to starts were heavy ground. One of them he beats out saft's Back in august so that was in. Deauville I think he'll handle firm ground and if he does. His he'll be very tuffy certainly can handle mile on the corner. That'll be no problem. And then third. I one with dannon premium Son of the great deep impact from japan ran extremely well last time out behind now and he's been in against adia we've been against the allegra So so duck nolan and we'll continue not to duck anyone william gets to ride but i'm gonna see i'm rooting for magical the go out on top and then try to get a little bit a little bit of a price. What skeleton colletti on the and bannon premium so seven. One two and the cup and i'm just looking Took me a minute to get to odds checker. And because i was curious what the you know what the betting shops where they were and they actually. They're right in line with what you just laid out They've got furor in there as well And actually then on premium fewer and scotty all pretty much you know in the in the night the two five to one range behind magical who is trading as as the favourite If there's a if there is a price actually just curious european I'll tell you who's got a little bit. It looks like of an interest. Is that a norm. Core is in the In the eleven to fifteen to one range. That's interesting because those those pulled obviously don't really have japanese money in them. But it's just that you know the and you would imagine i. I don't have a historic perspective. But i would think that you know the betting shops are are taking plenty of you know plenty of cool more money on the magical side and and so forth you know. Yeah no doubt. And it'll it'll be fascinating to where the money goes and any we'll see. I'm curious to see how they're going to bet Classic legend with with all the rep that he has and all the cold water casper was kinda poured on him since he came kind. Kinda lowered expectations and now to post really long expectations. So that'll that'll be interesting to see. If in fact he even goes off as favourite but yes as far as As far as betting at least we got an early peek tomorrow at the current odds and keep track it on saturday evening. Make my bats. Usually i wake up so problem. And what i do is i. I go to the jockey club website because they have replays like minutes after the racist refreshing. So it's good there. You don't know the results. I some websites. See the results when you look for the replay. Not i don't want. I don't want that so i felt there. I think it's on the video program and you click on that and has the races and you get the chart. You can get the video. And i just i if i missed rice live when i wake up. I'll just pop my ipad open. Go to that. See see how they did. But i if you know i was a little bit. Young man steve. I might stay up. Days are over. And if i did i'll pay for it for a week now and i've been i've been getting it's funny. I just missed I missed alma. Die by the little bit. I was about twenty minutes too late for i last was last week week before. And there's quite a few quite a few runners out of that race by the way Will that are involved here. So i'll see i. That's a tough spot for me. The the midnight of the midnight the two-thirty that three That that's a three o'clock is fine for me but Winning for whatever reason. That's my prime sleeping hours from about ten thirty two three. So i don't know i don't know if i'm gonna have. I'll do my best well. And the way i am as if i wake up for the first leg i'll stay awake right right right ally. I loved one eye open. But you know. I ain't going back to sleep now and there's another big race coming up and i like the other day i don't know if you're at the ceremony after the event while they did it they can request. Take your your phone has gone sky wire pick. You got to pick him up bad. Yeah that was weird. That was very strange. Anyway that was deck and That should get you set up for tomorrow night. looking forward to it and one o'clock on the nose the vase gets things going And then every forty minutes from their one forty for the sprint. And then you got that highland real in between which is a seven furlong handicap and that's a to fifteen and then you come back three o'clock For the mile and three forty for the cup. International races take advantage of all the information at d. r. f. in that international section. You got the pp's. I'll i'll send out a links to the page all right on twitter bottom of the hour. Perfect timing and Got fixed offer coming hammer neck and mike welsh. Let's take our break come back fixed. Staffer joins us. Next who's with feedback on sirius. Xm radio big exciting southern california thoroughbred daytime racing circuit continues with the la county. Fair meet at los alamos racecourse. The meat is off to a great start with strong fields. Throughout and the state's action continues at the orange county track headed by the los alamos futurity on saturday. 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Yeah we've we fall in love with arkansas I'm about to start my fifth year here at oaklawn and each year after the me we would look for more and more reasons to stick around into the summertime and then the fall and Then we finally figured out. Why don't we just make this our home and we're building a house that would cost two million dollars where we're from san francisco and it's nuts. A fraction of that during my wife is pretty much. The project manager and boy. It's been big putt. Well it It's been a really good Spot for you and it. It just been a kind of a natural Seems you know right away actually And kind of cool. The town obviously is is on a huge upswing and the expansion of the facility and the hotel construction. And some of you know some of the best Racing obviously All winter anywhere It's really just a strength the strength the strength and last year right in the teeth of Of the pandemic and the adjustments that were made You know so. Remarkably to get through the meat and finish strong it just It's something that now people are. I'd guess i guess because it's it's so specialized a degree you think about keeneland and and the the spring and the fall but this is this is like ninety days and that's it and it seems like every day is cherished that's absolutely the case It's it's it's not unlike saratoga or del mar and that it's a boutique type of situation. And then oh by the way you just hundred thousand dollar purses at the first allowance condition and hundred and six thousand per state made braces and five million dollar just When hollywood park closed. I kinda thought that was it for me. Has the race caller. I wasn't gonna play centerfield for the dodgers and then go to albuquerque and they had when oakland called. I realized that i might still get to call some really important really good races with horses. That would go on to do great things. And that's exactly what's happening. So is i couldn't be more. I couldn't be more appreciative of the celis family. And they've embraced me here in hot springs and i'm looking forward to decide another three year contracts so ready to roll very nice well godspeed to get the house Don and and settled in by the time the meat opens and we'll talk actually later with hammer as well as preparations continue toward Seen more and more missives and the horses training and so forth and and hopefully get the come this year. We've had to cancel last year's a plans for actually. We're supposed to have two trips to hot springs. One for the hp a convention and that got scuttled and then was going to be back. You know weeks three weeks later for arkansas derby week so we lost two opportunities to you know. Enjoy the hospitality Unlike arkansas derby week the the populations of hot springs. Arkansas is just a little over thirty five thousand when we run the arkansas derby normal here than we get our normal crowd. We double the population of the entire cities. We could seventy thousand on knock on wood where we certainly feel like. Things are headed in the right direction and that with just just the approvals of the two vaccines overnight and you know. We're ideally the end is in sight and and twenty twenty one when it comes to attendance at a wide basis at the racetrack will be will be possible for everybody. The meantime back in the excitement about this conversation beyond looking forward to the oakland season. Is you doing work with jeff. Franklin and with jerry brown at third graph and when jeff sent out that notice now. It's like three weeks ago about the expanded services of involved with the the third graph player. Package we've talked several times with jeff in january. It includes you doing seminars. We haven't saratoga at the barbecue and i. It's a great way for players to learn as well as get a chance to be put on some winners and you know you you're handicapping and your horse play is really on display for everybody. Not just during the prats. You do with with the nancy at oaklawn but all year. Long when you're involved in the contest scene and you're a regular presence on leaderboards and your irregular third raff user. It's very simple steve I was a horse player that was trading dollars. I did the work. I put in the time and effort but i was trade dollars and then i discovered and was enlightened to thermographic and then i became a winning player. It's really that simple. And jerry and jeff have been so good to me over the years. I would always say to jerry. Because frankly he lets me access to cheat sheets for free. And that's that's just incredibly gracious of him and i always say how do i repeat what kind of news we understand your know when you're on tv. G say nice things about the graph and all that but You know it's all good and then finally they came up with a way that i can show the appreciation that i have four thorough. Grab and so much. Believe in this product and what it can do to completely transform you as horse player once you really understand and embrace with graph is about and so the opportunity now to do these seminars. And i'm actually working on tonight. That i'll take tonight for the saturday guard. Right now. is is just such a godsend. I finally can feel like my relationship with jerry's reciprocal in that. He's done some for me. And now i can finally do something for him. Let's let's lay out some of the specifics to in this new you know in this new Thought an offering per se but it. It's you know it's a package for players to take advantage of a and we've we've led jeff explained the third graph player services and it's you know it's it's being rolled out on going basis From you know meet to meet and jurisdiction jurisdiction But this is. This is a more of a generic package that that isn't necessarily you know specific to any of the venue meets Something to take advantage of ongoing basis. Yeah basically what i what i do I just i just pulled up the sheets for eight different racetracks. And i've gone through and i'll find three or four sometimes five races from anywhere in the country that not only looked like opportunities to make some money but you can incorporate thermographic theories and different kinds of things that go into showing our gps players. How how photograph can really open doors and show the way too nice priced winners and we put it all together in about a thirty minute presentation. It's all done via zoom I said at home here in my office. And we mark up the sheets with this thing called the or you can put all kinds of circles and squares and and arrows and highlighter all kinds of different things and then we put it all together and we tape it. On friday nights and then it gets sent him disseminated to all the tps players and they can access it whenever they want and then hopefully the next day on saturday. We catch a couple of live winners. I think we're gonna have a couple of really nice ones For tomorrow. I'm using two races down at gulfstream. And there's one horse downstream that i really liked so check that now the the third player service extra is you know is the concept and for the new for new players that that sign on and and register You've got you know some wagering minimums bought it. Then you know. Basically you get the use of graph for free and you know there's a big value. Obviously i mean The essentially it's it's close to seventy five dollars. Basically is seventy five dollars a day on the cat. You know capping the amount of cards that you that you would look at and then the opportunity to have the information the kind of information that vick would share in the seminars and i you know i have done it myself. You know in in individual with individual horses. Becca and i'll i'll i'll mention a winner or you know we'll handicap something whether it's on friday the weekend preview or whether it's just happened to mention horse race during the week and very frequently. I mean anybody that's listened for fifteen years knows that i'm referring to very frequently the third graph pattern that you know that that horses is showing In recent years of driven home the point about the the indexes the the indices that jerry keeps adding new things. And the you know the thera- pattern the Index on stallions and with the aging of horses. It to me. It's like there's all kinds of hidden statistics. The sibling The sibling numbers. And there's so many things that are going on the trainers stats. People that have used premium speed figures. They generally are just looking at a number. And when you when you get these pages whether us you know the full page. Or i. I actually i actually prefer the the condensed page but i get vic i would say maybe i would say half of my successful plays whether it's a horse as a wind candidate or inclusions in exotics i. I'm at this point. I would say half of them come from the stats from the sire stats the indexes or the trainer stats as much as even as the i get from. Just the performance figures alone. Oh i do too They're oftentimes where the figures can take you to a certain point but you still need something to push with direction and And then you can access things like that. I mean something as simple as okay. That's i haven't run in four months. So how does this trainer do with horses. That have been away from three to six months. Something as simple as that. Well if you are thinking about right maybe source. Maybe i won't and then you look down and you see that and and one of the things. That's so cool about the the the information that's disseminated really important and really relevant. It's it's bold it. You can see it much brighter and and and much clearer so if you look over and say well how do horses that have run between ninety and Two hundred seventy days something like that and and bam. It looks at this what this guy hits. Twenty six percent with horses like this. Well then you're gonna include that horse if you don't know how he does and then you look over and it's not bold and you see that he's a three percents guy but his second start off of a layoff is where jumps up. Then you know that that particular guy tends to give a horse race. Let them sort of run themselves in shape. There's all kinds of different philosophies and all kinds of different ways the trainers will approach bring their voices back off layoffs or first-time starters and all of the is right there at your fingertips and if i if i'm curious about a horse that's coming off lay and i see staff that i don't like i'm gonna look someplace else and almost always bears out and works in our favor and similarly in addition to that kind of you know the of stat. One of my favorite things and people will hear me talk about it. You know particularly the first half of the year it. The and i'm going to see if i can't find one at a glance Looking at just with the gulfstream in my lap for instance for for tomorrow one of my favorite things in recent years with you know with jerry Creating the the index of of of stallions and what the index is is the average figure of a stallions progeny and the categories that that are included are overall than two year olds three year olds. Four year olds ups dirt off tracks sprint routes and if there's turf or synthetic related that that'll be their one of the hidden to me one of the hidden things that's been in here. Here's here's here's a perfect example. All right perfect spikes down as a stallion. His two year olds average. Fourteen as a figure that Is with three hundred and eighty seven thousand. Sixty two starts. He his three year olds ten and a half so they improve from two to three by three and a half points and then as four year olds or five ups eight and a quarter and eight. So they'll improve another two points. You will not talk interesting about something like that is who spied. Staff spikes tunnels the champion. Sprinter okay so a lot of people will say well. These only gonna get horses. That are gonna go short under no. That'd be reasonable to say that because they think in their minds when they saw s- fight sound run okay. He was the spread. But when you look at these figures in and when you see these profiles they'll find out oftentimes it's just the opposite and so any time that you have information that is contrary to what what the general public the general betting public things. You can turn down the money almost immediately. So in the cases fights town or let's talk about like an uncle bowl or something like that you never know when you're gonna come along stallion that you think was predominantly a short horse on dirt and low behold you find out that at the horse has really good numbers with horses going furlongs on grass and then you are seeing something that is contrary to what the general public believe me. That's all you need anytime that you know something. That's different than what everybody else thinks. You are going gonna turn that into cash and the way you know the way that all utilize that number particularly when a when a horse from a two to three or three to four when they've been gone for let's say six months six to eight months and everybody's looking at trainer stats how As you mentioned off one hundred and eighty days layoffs. Well that's fine and that's going to be available but the people might not necessarily also be thinking about how much improvement just in natural development based on pedigree could expect from that horse and so when a when a two year old leaves the scene and had you know had a couple of starts three starts. Let's say two left the scene running a fifteen. Now's coming back in april or may as three year old. Well that horse on paper when people looking at pp's is going to slow to compete. But just in terms of natural development. We know from this kind of information that the horse is at least capable of competing and of course might be twelve to one fifteen to one and when you talk about making those those nuanced nations and and you know putting a horse into you. Know the bottom layers of of tries and super vic at that point. you know. that's that for me. That's how i that's how i differentiate and utilize the information. That's that's in the sheets at such a good point they made still in. I can even expand on that because you were talking about how you can sort look into the future as far as just a development and a girl up of a horse in from a particular stallion but even expand on that for. Let's say you have a horse. That has a two year old was able to. Let's just let's pick a random number was able to get down to a fifteen okay and now. He's halfway through his three year. Old season going towards is the sort of the apex of his three year old season and had that natural grope progression and that fifteen has now morphed into a nine. Okay so that's basically six points of development the reason why though can even take it to the next level is one of the things that jerry discovered and this is from looking at literally. Millions of sheets is that it is unreasonable to expect any more than roughly six and a half seven points of development for a horse. Now horses make us liars every day. But if i see a worse ran fifteen is a two year old and the now has gotten down to a nine as a three year old and i need that voice to run a six even if it looks like he might be progressing towards that. I'm going to know that that is probably unnatural as far as expecting or hoping that he will develop through that and then be at nine points at develop conversely if he's got that fifteen and he's now at an eleven i know that he's got four more points or three more points in there i to will. She can go through that. And and run a number that i projected to run and that and i know if i get that number. It's probably going to win the race. That's one of the brilliant things that that actually jerry he discovered about it watching these horses. Go from two to three to four to five and then on to becoming older buildings and stuff like that and i- factor that in in my in my handicapping every day. So i think okay. I need to run a six cutty renaissance. Yes but that would be more development than normal to expect. And then i'll tend to tend to shy away from that source and maybe even try to find the words that might not be quite as fast but i know that the development is still available. Exactly exactly those ramat irs And that'll show your show way to to long shot winners. All the time and resources that you can avoid thorough graft and looking at these numbers as much as it is to look at horses that that you think can do something to me. And it's a specially effective for the novice players. You can immediately find what they cannot be right at. It will astound you when you will go through and you'll see six to five favorites and you look at the numbers and you'll say no faster than any other sources are you kidding me or maybe even just not good enough. I'll give you a perfect example. Former last week he had virtually no chance and he was the seven to five morning. Line favorite and why did he not have a chance because we could look and see. It's gonna take sex to win the race. He's never even come to. Why much less. And it's one thing to pick a winner but it's an entirely different thing to pitch a seven five favorite that you can say with a great degree of certainty. He can't do it. he's just not good enough to win and that was exactly the case with performer. And that's why a lot of our players ended up untrue timber at seven one. I you know it's funny. I ended up ended up picking performer after the scratches once you know once we lost Forensic fire and mind control. but i d- it was obvious with having never gotten lower than a one In his limited you know he's he's an cheers I still thought he had a very nice chance. But my my second choice was the best value play and that was true timber and because he had had those two races in the pp's that absolutely had had obvious potential. And that's another thing that i'll do very frequently and and identify a horse that if they if they can get back to that spot in their in their history can win and you know there's so many like this. Mr freeze is a horse. Who when you when you look at his at his pattern and his sheets invariably he's he's a horse you have to consider and just have to figure out if the pay scenarios gonna work if the timing is right for him because he's got these standout races and true timber had that same kind of format where you could say if he can run back to this he can win this and you know that's how you find seven to one shots and those races. Oh happen to be and that's one of the things. That's great about the visuals. You can actually see by looking at the sheet can see the pattern to be at the end of the year and oh it happened to be on the dirt. Oh and it happened to be on the dirt it up and so so you just go right across the top there usually that he ran the two best rates of his career towards the end of his form cycle for that particular year and it happened to be at the big. A i'm in. You won't see situations when you go through and look at the time and time again it might be a five claimer at tampa might be a first allowance. Condition horse at turf. Wait park tonight when they run their. But you will see people say robert complicated and just it's it's craziness it's all this information. Forget about any of that. Rob yourself and detract. You want capable work and ask yourself a question. Roughly based on the numbers. That i see what do i think it's gonna take to win this race. That's it. I mean we all do our. We can all see well. These sources all tender and tens. Here's one that can run a nine so it's not going to take a thirteen to in the race and it's not gonna take a four two we know it's going to take somewhere around eight nine. Okay that takes about twelve seconds to ascertain then the second thing you can do. Is you. Go find the sixty five favourite lo and behold. He's never broken twelve. Well now you are sophisticated throw graph user and you've been looking at it for about eighteen and a half seconds and you know something the very definition of what we do is when one robot to press. Send on that one. We're betting on on naira bets and we're about to press fanned if we believe that we know something that is contrary to what the masses think. That is why you play. And when you look at this. Everybody says oh. It's so complicated. No it is not good enough to win. And if he's not any sex you find yourself away to make a play debate against him and when you do that and you're right and you knew and people are oh must have got a bad ride or was a bad trip now. He was not fast enough. Yeah exactly exactly right for performer. Who is not good enough fair enough. I it on a daily basis. And and when you fold in the you know the class level Element it. That's one of the things that's amazing. is about the product. And you know it was jerry that tommy you know. Twenty years ago that class class as we've always thought of it really didn't exist that the only thing that really mattered is fast or says and yeah exactly There may be some behavioral elements two horses. We're class The concept of classic can be applied But when it comes to you know when it comes to a a horse from finger lakes coming to saratoga and and charlie baker this famously. When he was still based at finger lakes he would come in july or the beginning of august and he'd bring some wars that had wanted finger lakes and so the first time it runs. Its you know fourteen to one and wins and then comes back and runs later in the meat and now is eight to one and wins and then finally people realize oh. It didn't matter that he came from finger lakes he. He was fast enough to compete. And and won the horace most famously associated for me with that is top shelter Who i believe one four raises at saratoga one summer and and that that was a lesson that the state with me the rest of my days one of the great things is that you can compare and contrast horses. Do you think that a rate sources actually saying to him. When he's on the bad you know i was really okay and i you know i could panic dominate the sources up here in upstate. New york but boy you know horses down there. At their tug of their classy. They're well bred. Yeah i can run the fours and they run aids but the horse the sitting there on the ban saying that exactly exactly and nobody else can break eight. I can promise you. I don't care if he ran finger. Lakes to tally any on the move can do it. Then he is going to do it. People bet billions of dollars based on things that have nothing to do the ability to get to the wire. I nothing and and at the end of the day if you are able to produce an effort that is better than the other horses in the race. You are going to win the race. I like it when people say well you know. He made the lead He he made it easy league. So that's why want while jillian weinberg taught me thirty years ago and that was did he win because he made it easy lead or make an easy lead because he was going to win there. You go faster very faster and more importantly is floor. That's the key people constantly said getting into third f. I want to learn it. And i said okay but start and they look at it and they go. Oh this is too much. it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be just go and look for bad favorites. You gotta do. Go look for that favors well and that gives me a couple of follow ups before we wrap up to that. That is a formula finding the beatable favor. It is a formula for contest success. And you know it's the way a lot of them when we when we talk to contest winners and consistent contest winners you know. We always marvel at you know the ability to find price horses. Well that's part of the formula looking at a race and saying okay the favorite Or maybe even the top two favorites aren't the either not competitive or marginally competitive. Let me find a alternative. That has real prospect at the right price. That gets me to a question vic. Where do you stand. I know you would least got one. Hcc i actually have only played believe it or not. I've only played three contests year and The most recent one was the the bbc. And i made a big run. I made a big run. Got up to I got up to fourth after the turf and I ended up finishing seventh round the bank rolling from seventy five hundred seventy seven nine now. My biggest opinion in the in the classical stops they talk. I was wrong. He didn't he didn't fire but i did it. I did. I thought basically three horses could win the race. Improbable thing i can tell so. I boxed them right the beginning But that has nothing to do with the question you asked me is i have one one. Nhc and. I'm sure you've talked about it all the time the nhc. This year is not going to be until august Let's put it. They pushed it back because of all the pandemic. all of that is really It's really good news for me. I mean i know everybody would love to play the february like we always point. Good point i have to to play the. Nfc and oakland is incredibly gracious. To let me do this. I basically take a week off from oakland to go play. The that's which which i hate doing. I mean i might miss the worst. That could win the kentucky derby but i also a million bucks to win the thing so they let me go and take a shot at it so this year. I don't have to do this year. I get to go and hopefully everything will be settled down. I'm gonna win the nhc this year in august. That's my planning. I'm gonna stick with it until it doesn't work well. Great to connect vic staufer everybody and goof on the roof the on twitter and The third graph player service extra package that It was been introduced in the last couple of weeks and You know a reminder if you aren't doing this it it it. It's crazy not to be involved because i it's simply like an added layer of value to your play At naira if you aren't already assigned up In the third raff player services. There's a two hundred and fifty dollars. Sign up bonus. Plus if you if you aren't using naira bets you can also get the the naira bets votes so You know bonus on bonus. You got the rebates that are available through naira bats The amtrak amenities which we've talked about but now with the not. Gps extra you're going to get the access to the video webinars. That vic is going to conduct. And i'm also going to remind everybody vic that one of the most generous things in in all of it all of the service side of the business third graph for free between christmas and new year's which means arithmetic landing. You brought that up steve. You must. you must avail yourself to during that and you said something earlier you said that there's a there's a a threshold of the amount of money that you have to bet to become a gps player. Yes there is but to be honest with you. It's really not that much no no. It's really not that much if you're just a even if you're a guy that just you know maybe maybe love a horse and you bet like twenty dollars across the board on ours. If you're doing that fairly consistently and playing a couple of tracks you're going to end up passing that threshold. This isn't this isn't a wales you don't you don't have to be a huge player Yeah there are some thresholds buddies but at the end of the day. It's really not that much money especially with turn for players that are playing every day. You'll get you'll get to that point where you can avail yourself to all of these other bells and whistles perks in the seminar and all that if you get there pretty simply it's not tough no and and you know to apply that comment on a wide basis. No matter that'll that'll say this enough no matter who you're using no matter no matter who you're eighty w providers if you aren't getting something ask ask for customer service and ask for somebody to look at your account and ask if you're eligible for rebate because i don't think enough people even realize that you very well may qualify no matter who you're playing with and and ask them what am i entitled to and you might be very surprised by the answer and if if the answer surprises and annoys you then say well. Why haven't i been getting this from day one. 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Springs this year and Certainly we'll get some opinions from you to as As you know the new year rolls around it'd be my pleasure. Be my pleasure. You talked about the nancy vic prattling on every day we we love fashion with handicapper. And says she makes me do my work and That's available before the races every day at anytime you want to call by the way you said one of the magic words hammer only got him in hot now and just one of the great guys and i know he's a he's a regular on your great shows. Do vic sow for everybody goof on the roof and another season oakland around the corner but Visiting here specifically to get you signed on the third rap player services visit third dot com. It's all there all the links to get the sign up and whatever you need. Jeff franklin the ready to help you so vic thanks so much. My pleasure steve all the best. Thank you talk soon fixed for folks. Let's Stay right here because now we got about forty five minutes or so and i got Nick tamra win to do new york work. And we've got hammer coming and mike welch so we'll bang that out. I do want to mention a passing and i I ran into pat. Kelly yesterday as we look to talk new york With nick tomorrow and pat mentioned to me that mrs bond guard passed in her sleep. And this was This was a surprise helen. Bond guard and the details of Of her life and her dedication to the game. I mean everybody that is around. New york racing certainly knows just literally life long commitment to the game and and and breeding new york and just surprised The came out of nowhere really. There was no warning and The looking for some of the specifics. I can tell you that Contributions in her name can go to take to the the program for retraining or the new vocations either and The guard obviously the you know the stake You know the the namesake Steak but her brother bert and their father. Burt senior. The bond guards really a there is no new york. There is new new york program without them. So one of the first lady's of new york racing and breeding nick tamra standing by nick morning. Good morning steve. How're you doing all right. Quick review from last week before we dive in to tomorrow's action. Your thoughts what we saw cigar mile and the two year olds etc. Starting from the top. I guess sort of in order to the races went Pretty tough not to be impressed by brooklyn strong who i. I really think took ten for tens best shot and proved a little bit better. I thought once him up sloppy and we talked about on friday how it looked like ten for ten pretty massive pace advantage and he probably didn't have maybe as often trip on the front end is i thought he would but i mean he had absolutely no excuse. So don't get me wrong. He he should've won and Brooklyn strong proved a little bit better tremendous story given the purchase price and i would imagine they have probably field. It's i normally offers for that horse. And if he does end up getting sold in Been good for the connections. Because that's a heck of a two year old campaign he's put together And and earned it ninety three speed figures so by no means does he look like a a flashing the pan and It didn't prompted typical amount of eroneous conversation about the rams and that seems to take place on a yearly basis. About how it it is completely unproductive. I mean it's only produced five subsequent grade one winners in the last ten runnings so just a dump something to keep in mind for everybody out there that that thinks it's such a horrible race but It'll be interesting to see where a brooklyn shrunk surfaces again. I would imagine he'll probably be on a on. A new york trajectory to kentucky potentially if he stays in danny velazquez training if he goes somewhere else to maybe warmer climates. We'll see how fares. But all in all i think he's been. He's been very impressive. I thought ten for ten didn't exactly embarrass themselves and looks like with a lot of potential moving forward to you would think being trained by shug mcgaughey that he'll get better with a little bit more experienced you know. I thought the dem was zell was I it's interesting. you know you. You assumed that bill maher train daughter of kirwin. that's getting extra ground. After breaking her maiden at a mile going away is just going to relish nine furlongs and it ended up that you know as i looked and i was thinking about the pedigree on meal foy and i looked and i noticed that the second family actually all sprint oriented. Honest lady I defense those kind of horses. And so i thought well maybe not quite as much nine furlongs but still i thought meal for was was pretty much the best bet on the card especially three two one two horse race and i was a little disappointed. He was run down by thought. I thought that was done. Down the backstretch and then sort of surged again in the stretch to get up As a rule those kind of races generally aren't productive and aren't good When you see a horse make a big second move after making an initial move. It's generally not very impressive. So i i'm gonna i'm gonna really be surprised. If those horses move forward quite a bit and become kentucky oaks contenders mill. Looks to me like a horse that might toil in in some longer races. And then ultimately surface going seven eighths or so and be very interesting to me. She might just be more of a one run. Sprinter cigar mile was a dud. His by historical standards but I'm i'm. i'm glad that timber got the win. I think jackson is a really easy guy to root for. He runs his horses. Brad kelly's been a a real He's actually help. The game at time by being active as he is and true timber certainly found the right field. Mr buff for some reason and we'll talk about him with regards to tomorrow's card seems to look around in the paddock and realize that they are in new york breads and and just sort of cowers in the corner. He did get hooked up in a bit of a pace battle with kim gear. Mo- can hear them. We'll probably needed a race off the bench Performer was awful. Just no no way around it. He was bad he got a big pace to run at. He couldn't get up for second. Kinda chandelier act down the stretch and and performers not ready for primetime. So we'll see what happens if he rent ventures back into grade one competition in the future. I think he probably will have foray into it again. And and perhaps everything will work out according to plan because obviously according to shoot me a it didn't and so hopefully next time he'll get the right prep and the right weather and the right date for the race. The the action now Sort of focuses after the big the big kickoff to the winter season we now kind of focusing on the winter hall and i was down there. Yesterday was absolutely delightful. It was fifty. Five degrees and gorgeous We won't. I don't know how many of those days we're going to get between now and april first but It was certainly nice yesterday. some thoughts about the card tomorrow. It seems typical with what we've seen in november now into the early part of december. Tomorrow he's going to be the end of turf racing so we'll just have one more card after today and you know it's kinda funny that the turf races yesterday played by thought very Almost as expected there wasn't any perceivable bias or issue a lot of times late in the season. You'll get kind of a you know a long turf. Course that might yield results that you wouldn't otherwise see but that did not look like the case So a couple of months. Tomorrow's card the the featured race is the not remembering the name. See alexander alexandrov right and And you know you've got mister buff. Who i was just talking about coming back on short rest having run in the cigar mile last week and now back in the alex m robb which he has won multiple times including last year when he Sat just off the pace set by I don't remember who it was but he completely buried them dynamex prime and fleet irish came from well off to be second and third. You know this is. This is the case right. This is the case with mr buff. When when he is in the gate with new york breads. He's a completely different animal. He can earn beyer speed figures. One hundred plus he can seem to set paces that are very very strong and keep going. And when he is in with graded stakes foes he can be setting a slow pace and just stop on a dime. So it's going to be interesting to see. How joel rosario ride this race differently. From the way he wrote the empire. Because breaking outside of mr buff that day he kind of road seafoam aggressively out of the gate and then gathered him in pretty quickly and i thought that that gave mr buff a pretty clear pace advantage and he ended up. Parlaying that into a wire-to-wire win. I think a lot of us were pretty frustrated as often the case that it looked like there were few pay sources on paper and they ended up going. I mean nearly forty eight to the half which is insane going a mile and an eighth at at belmont. So i think mr is going to be pressed into a tougher trip than he. Then he would like to have That's good enough to to really make a big case against him because the alternatives are just really brutal. I i guess. I would. If i was making a pick publicly. I suppose i'd pick bank. Which i got kind of embarrassed even admit that because he's just a perennial. He's a very frequent loser. We really really just hang waiting to happen. And he feels like that's probably what's going to happen in a mile and an eighth. However i did think being inside and the empire classic may not have been ideal and i do think that last time he may be was going to seven eighths. Maybe that'll sharp a little bit. Help him stay a little bit closer. And then he won't yield so much ground late Otherwise i guess danny california is an interesting course in orlando onoda. Went nine for twenty nine era toga. He went seven for twenty six at belmont and he's three for twenty six so far so it looks like whatever magic came about over the summer wearing off. It's hard to have your horses run that well for for such a sustained period of time I actually this horse ran very well keeneland last time. And i think if you knew that he was going to be capable of running back to some of those good races from midsummer he'd definitely be the horse that you'd wanna bet Because he's going to get a great trip sitting just off the he's probably got the jump on a horse bank it and and you know you've got legitimate concerns about distance with city man and divisions just doesn't quite look good enough so it's a pretty interesting race we'll see mr buffs rebound simply facing softer competition. It's certainly not going to surprise anybody. If that's the that's what ends up happening. The race before leaving in the seventh is a very nice One mile allowance now for three up mails and I'd say a twelfth man. Ten to one looks awfully inviting. And blind willie mcdowell next door For juries arrow and and linda. Rice is adding blinkers I don't know if it's enough to keep up with the twelfth man. But i thought there was a school of thought that says twelve man wires this field. Yeah i was interested i. It was surprising to me that Well it wasn't surprising given the size of the field but according to time from us the pace project has this as a fast pace. And i think i think the horse. That's kind of the lynch. Pin in singapore trader and singapore traders been involved in some really fast paces in his last three of his last five starts and so that sort of augment where he's going to be positioned early In terms of the overall pack. And i think that's why maybe the thought is that that it's gonna get pretty quick. You also have potential players striking speed. And and dudley squares adding blinkers after showing speed at a mile eighth. The difference is twelve minutes sprint speed. So i do think he's the kind of horse that you need to include Simply because he does look like the speed of the speed you know. Yesterday you had that new york bred race jerry. The nipper wired and it looked like there was a ton of pace on paper they went twenty three flats in the opening quarter of the field was really stringing out and then completely stay together and it just ended up that everybody running a little bit harder early that was within five lengths or so was burned up and jerry the nipper random into the ground so i think Yes this is tremendously interesting race. It's funny you mentioned the morning line. If i remember correctly i david are gonna put put a plaintiff plea saw that people to help with the morning line because it's certainly not that he needs any help. I mean david's the best morning. Winemaker i've ever seen consistently but Yeah he's very very difficult race to do it and i think. He ended up siding with dudley square. Who looks like he looks like the right. Kind of horse To be the favorite. I think it's pretty easy to embrace. Todd pletcher in this kind of scenario. This is the worst. It's that's shown some talent pretty consistently you know. I'm not sure that he faced very tough competition last time. I'm also not sure if he's going to be six to one but I guess it's pronounced acer on the far outside. Whose son of intimacy. If out of the really nice. Mary amen. Hallelujah who was a a great at stake type. Rick tro actually looked coming off the turn in the acorn in twenty ten like she was going to go onto to victory and then was beaten by campaign doro This source came back off a lengthy lay-off after showing little in two prior starts for chad brown and ended up winning going away at a mile. Churchill in what. I thought was a pretty impressive performance and you know why. Send the source to florida right. I mean i know makers has operations just about everywhere but The money so good in new york this feels like a horse could improve second off the layoff and generally make resources are better second off the layoff rather than off the bench so i thought he was interesting. I've include him. I think family is is that i wanna try one more time. This is a tough one other than but that race with the sound and dare was very tough. So i thought he He actually fared well that day in and he could be a little bit tighter a second off the layoff as well. So yeah. it's a super contentious really really fun. Race kind of anchoring that That late pick five sequence. And you really. Don't get any breaks anywhere because of the race prior is to life. Claimer where contention runs pretty deep and you kind of have to make a decision on a horse trained by orlando noda who were talking about. Who's not winning quite at the same was before appear forties pretty clearly the worst defeat on paper. He's improved quite a bit since getting into notice care and most recently was a fast closing second behind a wire-to-wire winner And he kind of lost his way around the turn that day before a picking up his stride late. We'll see if maybe i redmi difference of being a guy who so stupid with off the pay sources. But it's not as if many franco doesn't know his way to the winner's circle especially this time of year so if felt like he and maybe grand grand to a lesser extent. Who did run well as time at churchill albeit against an off the field It was just a force field but actually thought he ran an improved race enough to to give him some consideration. And i'm probably gonna use tri-state lorenzo off the maiden when he beat an absolutely horrendous field last no question about it. I mean they were. They were very hungry bunch. You'll see uncle ned. And the first tomorrow and and john and the last. But i've always liked taking horses like this. It took forever to break. They're made in their first. Start back against winners A lot of times. I really believe this. After looking at the thousands of races on the circuit there are a lot of times where to life climbers are actually weaker races maiden races. I know that sounds idiotic but you look at these races let me take a horse like beachside. Who and now that. I'm making fun of him. he'll probably win. He's dropping in class. But i mean it's been forever since he won so he's he's kind of a maiden himself and and i think that you would want potentially upgrade of course try saint lorenzo. Who's going to be a pretty decent price to his name. Jumped off the screen at me as well. And you get the the seven pounds with cardenas we actually are using cardenas and i didn't realize it until you said it but we're in the last turf race of the year In in the fourth with minnie mouse and she drew wide again and benji hernandez kind of Wrote himself right off her and After not not doing what. He was instructed With her last time which was Mma polka is going to set the pace and you know get right honor and mma polka proceeded to wire that field so i think cardenas will be forwardly aggressive tomorrow with mouse. Yeah i i think hardiness has improved a ton throughout the year And look he gets on a lot of life mounts pizza campos's agent and you look at who gets on on a daily basis in. It's obvious that that this time of year. Pj's doing really good job with those guys. And i actually thought that cardenas's ride on the horse that got run down by By amortization yesterday was outstanding and he did everything basically everything right just maybe inherited to lead a little bit too soon But still wrote very very well. And i think his his he's really improved on the turf quite a bit. It was crazy race with mapa. Because i mean mirabeau may was was basically dragged out of the race early and it looked like something could be going wrong. She was so far back and then she just came flying late My john terranova was putting the blinkers on. She's got a cozy inside post. Mit's in many. I think the horse to be But i could see if if minute mouse's written aggressively out of the gate and can get you know decent early position. She certainly has shot and look. I mean one of the things you've got working for you potentially is that we see some results based on. Maybe how things go in the first half mile of races that we wouldn't see otherwise at different times of the year. So why not mid-december turf when well kemba kemba is is absolutely going to be. You know the target Assume she's going to be fresh because she hasn't been out since saratoga so remember when campbell won when ray handle couldn't lose i mean he's like nine for ten through stretch there and then she actually came back and ran very well against Timeless journey who who brought up last week. Who want an off the turf rate or not enough but was it wasn't off the territories that he won on On cigar mile day but yeah campbell looks like the one to catch for sure and and obviously if they it or own devices she can be an easy martonyi winter. Well we will. We will try to make sure that that that that doesn't happen again After polka a polka her way around the the the oval. What anything else. What else did you catch your eye. The third tomorrow's a good race it's to two other than for new york breads and you know we see this condition often Really have have a lot of power especially compared to the one other than condition. But you've got a few horses moving off one other than wins and up steam engines. Second off the claim call me. Harry has been effective more effective on the terrorists. And bronx bombers who took a really rough beat last time when me and many other people needed him Just the story of our lives but I thought that was an interesting race. Kinda stuck in the middle of the early pick. Five south africa's the morning line favorite. I'm not really in love with him. I thought running with scissors was interesting enough from the inside and probably see him get aggressively. Ridden the other turf race is a A forty thousand maiden claimer at six furlongs on the on the outer turf which They're gonna have to come up with a name for that outer from every other outer of course new york as a name. So it's It's gotta be something Freudian analyst who. I chased pretty much all summer. Who somehow couldn't get second today. The bench like basically lost his action midstretch. He's back and and he's a horse. I think who can be dangerous drawn towards the inside. I think is an advantage. The inside was not quite the edge that it was earlier in the meet when the rail was down I think frat is probably the to beat in there. Looks to to have the most speed and kendrick karma she's obviously riding very very well He'll probably put this right on the lead. I think that might be all it takes. Scuttled buzz off. The drop is another one. That's very dangerous his turf race coming back. After the good second-place finish was fair enough mile. six furlongs might be a little sharper him though so we'll see if there's reo get some going in time so yeah fun card and other good card. Sunday's car doesn't have any turf but it looks good as well Nice matchup of new york bred older females. Lucky move and mrs orb facing off again Mrs beat lucky moved by a nose in the bay ridge last year That was before lucky. Move became an open company stakes winner in an empire. Distaff winner for our friend. Every and racing's friend marshal graham So we have excited to see that and little new york breads for the weekend and hopefully continued good racing. Because it's been it's been a good run so far down and looking for forward i had literally had a nice time and looking forward to get down. I don't know if we're going to go tomorrow. Maybe we will. I got to twist his arm neck. Best lock will wrap up twenty twenty next friday great. Appreciate it a good weekend. Nick camera and tam one two one five on your twitter machine and t. a. m. one two one five hammer is going to join us. And in fact there is recommending maurice. Dave how's everything going out there and upstate new york good gorgeous again. It's hannukah nice packing you. I appreciate it got a got taken. Yesterday we down in new york Neil kleinberg came. Neil came to The reysen and he brought locke's from clinton street baking company and sandwiches. Lebron sandwiches we hold. It was a whole hanukkah. We gotta hanukkah. Party was like seven eight more night. You absolutely seven seven. More last night was number one modest. Yuck it up why not. Drake played subsites. It's not christmas to me. Until i hear christmas wrapping from the waitresses. And i haven't heard it yet this year but it's a great song. Actually that's one. That's one of my favorites i. We don't play it very often because it you know the the long you gotta really take the whole thing. The big payoff at the end. But i i I happen to love it. I love when it comes on. Yes so i could be. I could be a you know in a grocery store or somewhere. And i'll hear at night. Okay it's christmas. So i'm waiting for that and if not i'll just have to play it myself but Anyway here yet declan which was good Ext offer Be will be teaming up here. Shortly at oakland is his he mentioned in you. Know enough but He was one of the first people to reach out last year. And while i was there as a kind of a hot springs resident now and was very kind to reach out. And you know if you need anything. Give me a call. I called a few times and But it was good for him and and oddly enough with tying a couple of things together vic i he is obviously known as a as a race caller and it's called races all over the place but i i met him at santa anita when he was a jock agent and He was He had joel. Rosario when when came down we came down to santa anita and so it was pretty pretty Pretty odd is there was a couple of couple of jockey age and things that hit the news this week but I you gave me into sign it last week to find out about how somebody could get licensed in At oklahoma in arkansas. So the racing commission will be there on january. Second is what. I was told So you can go to the track january second to get licensed but i would always call first to make sure 'cause this is it is a state agency and sometimes they decided take a day off every now and again so january second. They said the commission would be their license. You so there. I've i've completed my assignment. I was just thinking of its. Anybody doesn't have any kind of questions you can always. Dm me that Away they go on on twitter and and It's the question now. I can answer on twitter fine. If it's a misty question. I'll i'll answer it on the air but That was that was my assignment. And i've duly finished it a day. Part of the compact. What if what if somebody from out of state you know. Give me the the part. But give them paul They'll be in there on the second and they should be. You know they'll be able to answer it. I tell you. I will say that. One of the nicest kindest Offices of of that kind of band been licensed in many states and sometimes it's just Do i have to go in there. And the nicest group of ladies in there to take care Very very nice. I mean nobody. People have been turned off by racing. Just having to deal with licensing and so It was a breath of fresh air to go into that lobbyists and then have them fill out the forms. And take your picture and all that stuff so Not a bad experience like a dmv deal. But it's not it's not in arkansas. Isn't anyway but Stats good and like nick. That there's over. I think it's well over four hundred horses training. I mean at the track at oakland right now training Refurbish the track as they do every year. So so that's going on so You know getting ready for that. In speaking refurbishing i If you notice yesterday kentucky down has Taking on a little bit of a job there and and and they're re they recited part of the turf course now if they resided the whole course. They'd be lucky to get done by the time we started in september. Of course is so big but Do a little bit at a time. We did the Like the three quarter poll to the eighth pole which is obviously used every day But that turn got you know. Just it hadn't been resod. And since they opened the nineteen ninety which is kind of wild. Just hey pros them seat out there and we'll be ready next year but went out sixty feet sixty plus feet from the rail Like you said from the three quarters poll to the To the eight ball and it's taken well and there's local grass from a bowling green which is five fifteen twenty miles north of there so We'll see how that goes into obviously from vitamin c goes but there's been hold and works good then continued to. Do you know other sections of the track on a yearly basis and so it's To assault renewed so that's good plus We'll get a new rail so that that in the workings of new lightweight rail currently the the rail candy moved. But you know. It's a twenty four hour ordeal for the crew. I mean the old style and We'll have the new style in lightweight. Where little you and i could move it In a couple of hours and so we'll be able to have separate different rail settings more frequently. Now it's you know it's like oh jesus takes two days to get the job done and so next year with a six date six race days in in in eight or nine days which is That's the most compact meets been gathering We last year we did five days and like shifting day so six days coming up. We're going to be moving that rail a little bit more than than has that. It has been so not constantly going over the same ground so just one One of the things going on there and The new pavilion will new face for people to eat and stay and enjoy themselves. During the races will will be finished this year last year. I cur tale of course because of the cause of the kobe so anyways That was in the news and Actually having to talk to ted yesterday we were talking about some other stuff but Not bad good stuff sir rick before we if there's any opinions to to offer but before we do that i also you were texting me listening. In on wednesday to the jock agent conversation that bubbled to the surface. And i think you had. I think you had some input there. Well the story that su su finley wrote on the about her friend What was his name philip. So miller bill miller. That was a is the family in the game. And here's a young kid. Twenty two twenty three years old college graduate horse owner and just got bitten by the bug and was asked to be an agent for Sarah anderson peterson that julie krone hadn't and obviously she's lived out here so if she she came coming home coming home to the winner Asked him to be pavement. Which is you know not out of the ordinary. They wanna hire who they want but apparently he was not able to become an agent new york to take some test and was turned down. Even take the test to which Because of some archaic rule. And just. I just kind of shake your head You know here's a guy that could be general manager. They could be raking secretary no problem but he can't be a jock agent found that I found that kind of odd. I don't know. I called around people and nobody that i know test. I don't know if we even have tested out here. I mean the restaurant anderson if he took it i don't think he took a test but I mean i think it's a lack of judgment to overrule something like that. But let's let's you know. Let's get this straight not. Ibm it's you know. We're not working for boeing here. It it's it's the race track and It's all comes down to common sense and and you know what the race track has a test of. Its own either. Make it or you don't doesn't matter if you're a jock agent racing secretary your radio guy whatever. It is You know you get in and if you can make it you make it if you can't you know and I just found it. Odd that You know the jockeys the one that's hiring the guy i mean if she's fine with having him this represent him on the racetrack Seems like it should be fine. I mean my last two two weeks might last two decades who knows but You know. I guess. I was asking around here. Do you take a test. No do you ever take a test. so I can imagine the jocky agent tests would be something along the lines of you know the rules of entering forces and and and things like that so you know that. There's a ton of rules in these role books that were written ages ago and steward most of the time have a right to overrule. And it just seems like Maybe i should have been one of those times and philip. If you're listening don't give up. hey That's another thing at the race track. You want to do something you know. There's a lot of those out there that you get and you got to fight through it but i think if you this is something you might be able to to get through and and become and But you know you know. Like i said i met i Vic when dick came to to santa anita for the first time i didn't know and He came he came into the as any other new agents. would and does whether it's an agent or somebody working on the back bedroom van driver of debt assistant. They all gotta come in to the racing office to get their card signed and i him the one. You know a couple of questions here a couple of questions just kinda see if they know what they're doing if they're gonna be able to handle themselves back there and and sometimes just not i'll call. I call saul man. And bobby's hey we got a new guy back there to keep your eye on 'em and You know i come in and I never met him and he was a new agent in town. And we do with all of it. Come in at the. How you doing blah blah blah -gratulations on your writer. Good lock Here's how we do things around here you know. Don't be you got gotta question. Come to me They know things like that. And you kind of go through and and you can tell in two or three minutes if the guy's going to be a problem if he has an eye on them and if he's a problem then you make things you know you you do what you gotta do to to to To fix it or weed them out. But i get said. The racetrack has a strange way of of Of of bleeding weeding people out It's not a you know everybody gets a trophy type of business. The guys that work hard and and do the right thing get rewarded and and sometimes You know not everybody makes it but I thought that was ridiculous. In fact As it's written i mean i've had. I've had a couple jobs in my in my day and actually more recently. Since i've been have stopped working at santa anita asked me to be their agent. I'm thinking well. Gee what if joe bravo called me up and said hey you know my taking a month off. Can you take my book in new york. I guess i guess. I couldn't Which is pretty pretty. Pretty crazy but Anyway we we seem to get these bugs around and sometimes common sense just doesn't take over so that was that was just my take on that now i appreciate it. I mean tony The timing was perfect for the conversation that we had on wednesday for those that missed it. i just heard from a prominent Jock agent who Hadn't heard the conversation on wednesday and hadn't seen this This story that that Supposedly wrote In td an But you know. I folded tony black into it. Because tony ran into something somewhat similar which was trying to come out of the racing officials accreditation program Went through you know. Got that level of expertise and then was told well you never worked in the racing office for six months you needed to have six months experience racing office. What what are you talking about. And i understand i you know. And then i. That's why brought in at martin's from our ci because ed's familiar with And and has created those ronald those model rules. that i put out Let everybody read what you know. What the racing commissioners international what. Their perspective was on this topic You know and you can understand. You can understand some layers of education and expertise but To to pretend that a jock agent has to have been a jockey exercise rider. An assistant or trainer is just not. It doesn't make sense. I mean the the old saying is you know to be a jockey. All you have to do is get a condition book and steal a pencil and your ad. And i do think i honestly it would make more sense. The thing that tony ran into it would make more sense. If somebody said you know that we would you know we'd like as a set of criteria we'd like it have had You know ninety days Of experience in a racing office or you know ninety days as an intern create a program. So that you could exp- if you want a level of expertise as an entry point then create some sort of a manner of of insurance for people it's ridiculous you know it like any like anything on the track veterenarians people whatever jock agents. Oh there's good ones in. Their dad was bad at their job. I mean the this job jocky agent for me. I mean they're they're my best friend. I mean i actually have a lot of friends that are talk digits but i talk to these guys and if as well rating secretaries or rain all day long i mean the sharp one but by go to them and say hey. Who'd he got. You know you gotta worse for me for this race can come. Can you help me out with this race district. I mean this guy and like you said the wanted that takes the time. Do their work Make it and the ones that don't don't and it's not an anything about tests at like any any life if if you've dedicated and and and do the work. Yeah you get lucky but just set yourself up to get lucky with a writer or whatever what have you but You know you think swim on your own and and get in this business you get a reputation and kinda sticks with you wherever you go and So that that's that's that's the test you need to pass. Gotcha is the you know. Somebody's asking about hiring you know. Hey you know Jimmy smith no and you make one phone call to someone who knows jimmy and you go. What about this guy. And you're gonna okay. He's okay he says i love had hold on. Hold on a minute here. A couple of minutes. 'cause i've got mike welch and mike scott a tight window. Let me get. And then i'll come back to you and we'll finish up The the morning and we say good morning to mike welsh mike After a pretty entertaining. Start to the season last saturday at including the claiming crown and another nice performance by fire and we had the two maidens that Look good now we've got What we kind of look forward to at gulfstream tomorrow. Yeah talk get into the real meat of the schedule Four graded stakes in fort lauderdale. It's terrific really You know it's a prep for the packages turf is at the holidays. The prep for the pegasus. Although i think is You know a lot stronger horses waiting in the wings for that. But we'll see you tomorrow but we get somebody out of there. They run well little take shop for three billion. Why not well. Let's get a couple of thoughts start with at fort lauderdale. What what are your. what's your case scenario. Here yeah i mean that's the first thing that jumps out at all. A lot of the nation is all you know do their best on the lead factor this holiday some like it hot brown. You know just the name i mean. You don't even need the name any more than that but you also have you know. Eat baker from tied even dogs. Well a little bit of gas. That was against a lot weakest so going around with a quarter. So i don't think we're going to end up there but factor this holiday break like that which other they were both. Come out of the breeders cup mile holiday lead back to this case after a slow start Lucky start. I interesting to see how this plays out You know david theoretically it's a set up closer but you know how that works out to what just went to think it saves to you know. Look for that kind of scenario summer jumps out. The league goes wire-to-wire put You know a as a handicap and really. We have to look at the base of that. That light from the past performances. What you who'd you ended up picking. I didn't actually do the tomorrow party. That's right that's right. The close look channel cats channel and laid off for quite some time. You know both can come running at the end. And then you've got the interesting to me. And i maybe would have picked take shot with delaware certainly taken a huge jumping class. But it's chat you know. The horse seems to be improving with every start since coming to the. Us was a group. Three winner in france Last season so you don't. Maybe he's the one this shit fourth or fifth and make one lay run back. And if i was looking for a little price. I guess i would go there. I don't know what's going to happen. You know leaving the gate factor this and halladay. Halliday's outside i'm gonna get. He's going to stock but You know from the rail. Something like brown really asked to go to these. Never really proven that. He he wants to win from anything further than the stock in position. And it's hard to be hard for him to stock and pass the though the to outsiders especially Being down the rail early. I think tyler has to have committed himself unless you know maybe he can sit there and run past those too but You know the horses. He's beaten from slightly off the pace in the past or certainly not as good as the what she's got beat tomorrow so it's an interesting race. It's it's going to be right as racist in some respects. I don't know who you like. I i wanted i think i want A price i- delaware It looks to me to be liable for a perfect trip in behind that speed saving ground and i thought breaking the rules. Who's run well down there. I thought breaking the rules was going to be competitive. And i think we're going to get those square prices 92-ish on delaware and six seven eight two one on breaking the rules breaking the real certainly as running style the coming up. And he's got a couple of fires or he's got one triple digit buyer delaware. Best is a ninety seven but that was in his last night. So that's kind of what i was thinking. They may be worth taking a shot. Just because of the the pace scenario mike. A couple of quick news notes Especially since you didn't A featured mardi handling the handicapping side As as the featured Head capper Bodey express tough break after breaking through and winning the clark Jesus team uses the claiming crown successfully and jose dangelo. This all he does is is run. Well and i don't want the weekend arrive without mentioning pay and price glass star. Think goes out today. Yeah they put him in for quarter you know. Try to find themselves. Soft spot to try to get him out on a winning note Not that's up the spot that last race today and i guess the key here is if anybody hooks them if he gets loose in the lead with his class. He's probably gonna win but You know he's ten years old that the that his career. He's not as good as he wants was that he's gonna be awful show at bryce sentiment. Y so you know my thought we to try to beat them as a handicapper and root form is a fan. I love it mike We'll start to really wait into the action and got one more week of broadcast before. We're off the last two weeks so if we don't talk next week Best wishes happy healthy and Onto twenty twenty one twenty twenty one will be a better year for everybody racing wise to hopefully we'll get some fans in year. They're talking about baby january fifteenth. But that's a long way off. We gotta you know. We got to make it through another month. locally without you know the coleman situation getting any worse so we'll we'll tune back in on that as we get a little closer to that date. I don't think anybody can make any predictions as far as how that's gonna go At the moment mike welsh. Everybody are a welsh. And of course. The clock a report the r. dot com slash blocker and a utilize the work of mike and the team From gulf stream up to the palm beach downs and palmettos back with hammer for the last few minutes of the morning and as we bring hammer back in and speaking of attendance and racing and covid restrictions. I just saw where. Todd ma stoler out by penn with a advisory Governor wolf who himself is quarantined With the covert positive They've added some restrictions and the state casinos in pennsylvania are going to be closed for three weeks. However live racing will continue at penn. And i haven't seen anything about parks. But i imagine parks In the same boat So racing will continue even with the casinos Closed for a three week. Qaida here you know during a bad period of of covid flare ups Hammer back and we can't close out the week without a calendar update. Okay here. we go so. We're going to officially open gate today and to get your oakland calendar as we as they stepped up last year. So so we're doing again if you missed the last couple of weeks egypt. Send me a picture of your sleeping pets. We did this a couple of years ago. It was a hit. So send us a picture of your sleeping pet. If you don't have a pet to send us a picture of any animal is fine and mentioned this show in there somehow at you like and and something like that so send a picture of your sleeping pet and that's the show and we're going to send it to oaklawn calendar at yahoo dot com very simple just the way sounds oakland. Calendar at yahoo dot com. What are gonna do is the pictures that you send me. I'm gonna put up on on My one of the twitter feeds. And it's going to be the at sleeping cocoa one at sleeping cocoa once. I'm gonna put some pictures up. They're gonna mentioning names or anything. But i'm put the pictures up there so everyone can kinda check them out. Because i tell you what most of them are great and then We get a few weeks. Pictures of maybe. We'll have some kind of contest or something and little fun with them but So let's do that. We'll start we'll start today Probably go to the end of the year or when You know we get to a number. That is too high. So you know first-come-first-served but we pretty much take care of everybody as we can't so Once again oakland calendar at yahoo dot com. Send us a picture of your sleeping pad to get a really nice Calendar from hope on and That's it outstanding. Perfect and Great timing rick camberley everybody away they go and i guess you should also be following sleeping. 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Welcome to episode one hundred and thirty two of the General PODCASTS, my guess is week or Jimmy Connors and his son Brett together. They host the advantage Connors podcast and I am pumped to how both of them sitting together and taking a break from. There's in order to do mine this week. Jimmy of course absolute legend. He won eight grand. Slam titles he. He also held the world number one spot for a total of two hundred and sixty eight weeks. He's still has the record for most open era tournament wins ever. Jimmy's got stories for days and Brent ads, the perfect color and perspective as somebody who grew up all around it, so let's get this thing started episode. One hundred and thirty two is coming at you right now. Jimmy bread is so good to have both on the podcast. Jimmy let me start with you. It's been a little while since you got caught up, but you and Brett have busted out with your own podcast. It's called advantage connors. Jimmy at this point in your life. You can do whatever the hell you want. Why did you want to jump into this space? And what are you looking to do with your platform? Jimmy Yeah you know Jimmy. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. I, it's I. I've always you know. Kinda wanted to do something and on the radio or You know to to have a voice and talk about tennis and a lot of a lot of. Things that go on over the course of not only my day, but everybody's Day and And bread and I were sitting around I. I guess a bread. Correct me if I'm wrong I think it was during the Australian Open and all of a sudden. He says you know. Why don't we sit down and talk a little bit about you know gambling and which is starting to come into tennis now a little bit and start. Start talking about the Australian, open and the odds. And who do you think's GonNa win? Who's the dark horse? And you know so? We we kind of sat down and talked about it and filmed it a little bit, and and you know came up with You know a pretty good project so You know it's fun. It's fun for me, but To do, but it's more funding. I get to do it with Brad. and. He's on his own down in San in Santa Monica and and you know I don't get to see him as much as I'd like. And this is kind of it brought us together a little bit more and You know so I can see him, and and also you know. Hear his views because you know his time around tennis with you know. His businesses in production and and for tennis and. He watches more tennis than anybody, so he kind of keeps me up the day. When I'm falling behind Brent let me just jump in Brennan. Got Ask you because I want to know what it was like not only growing up with Jimmy Connors. Your Dad but. Your Godfather, because it sounds cool shit, was it? Oh Yeah. I mean definitely cool, you know. I think everybody knows. Those guys are all their antics on the court. And then the personality and the bad boy stuff, but you know to me growing up, he was just dad. He's just just my pops, and that was just uncle nasty. You know I didn't even question why you know. His name was uncle. Nasty I was a little bit older. but yeah man. It's just It was great. I had a privileged childhood growing up around all those guys able to travel the a part of the tour. And have that during my upbringing I think you know it's benefited me and my career, doing stuff and tennis production and you know able to do this with POPs it's been really cool. Just because you know. He's got the the old school on lockdown. And you know he knows all the old players, and the old styles and everything, and and I'm able to kind of. Bring the bring the new school in a little bit of what's going on today and I think it's a good mix. Let's not love this Jimmy. I want I don't want this. Don Loses point because I think that when you what you said about Brad I, get this because I've got a couple of teenage sons right now and I literally can't wait until they're old enough for me to throw back a couple with them because I. Know It's going to be a great time now. The bread is a little bit older. What's it like to hang with him and then to collaborate on a project like this with your son? Hang on. I'm learning things you know I'm I've been kind of away for a while. Jim, and and you know to to get back into it and. You know get the feel of You know really a ten, not not only just tennis, but you know the way things really are and and I I've kind of kept mostly to myself over the last number of years and and have enjoyed that, but you know hanging with Brat and you know I. I'm not afraid to say it. Brett's forty, and you know time of. Hey, that's okay, you know. Time has passed. Quickly and For me I look back and You know I was traveling awful lot while he was growing up, and even though my family was able to come with me quite a bit I certainly did miss a little bit along the way and and So you know catching up and and figuring a lot of things out you know from now from then till now has been great, but you know Brett is He's modern. Day and in in more things than just tennis, and and You know to to sit down and into talk with him, and and to get his views and you know, get a different perspective in a in a different understanding of you know the way things are, and so as you know, it's good for me because he keeps me up to date and you. You know keeps my mind sharp, and you know with being under quarantine. That's a that's been an important thing to try to find a way to keep busy, and he certainly has kept me busy. You know bread I can I can just tell the affinity in the love and the respect that you guys have each other. It's very obvious like Brett one of my favorite topics is this? Notion of nature versus nurture like you said you had kind of privileged upbringing pops came up gritty e Saint Louis. I'm Kinda curious like your dad. Jimmy was running on some crazy rocket fuel his whole career like. If you could bottle that stuff, it'd be the best thing ever. Jimmy was so fierce. I'm kind of curious. Do you think that's nature or nurture for instance? When you came out, you hard wired the same way. How much of that bread is environment and culture like? Do you have that same fire on your good that he did? Yeah I mean I definitely think I have some of it in me I'm super competitive with anything I do I. Mean I grew up playing off and some tennis when I was younger. But I, I think I'd have to say. Maybe it's a little more I. Don't you know what I mean? I think as being around him and. Absorbing, you know his way of attacking things and looking at things and the way you know how hard he worked and hardly practiced. Train with them when you know when he was in the off season I go run these hills with them when I was, you know nine ten eleven years old, making halfway up the hill, and he just keeps going leaves it does. You know I think it's a little bit of both, but you know I think I picked up a lot of it just from being around him, so much traveled a lot with them probably a lot more than most kids, my age or able to, and you know I think some of definitely rubbed off. Jimi you of course one hundred nine ATP events eight Grand Slams you a top ranked player in the world, but you've been really clear about this that the best weeks of your entire career involved a tournament that you didn't win. Of course that was ninety one US Open for those who do not know or remember the extraordinary circumstances Jimmy of those two weeks. Why were the most memorable of your career? I think most of the one thing that that really stands out from those two weeks. Jim is is is the noise that the crowd made? and and that's that's what I. wanted my whole career that the fans would. Would get into it like that like a hockey game or a baseball game or a football game or a basketball game, and just you know really really lose it, and and and get involved and feel like they were down there playing and you know I I played for over twenty years on the tour, and and even though I was striving to to to try to get that throughout the course of those years, I never really figured that I had found it in until those two weeks because the noise there was deafening. And you know whether they. Liked me they didn't like me. They wanted me to retire. They wanted me to stay around. The idea was that they were there and that they were they. They could identify with a guy that that truly loved what he did, and had the passion for it. Every time he walked out on the court in was not afraid to show that. and and that I think that caught on to the point where you know after after so many years that. Of leaving my DNA out on that court and and you know and you. Mind with that JAM is in New York you leave your DNA there. They like that you know Wimbledon. They ask you to clean it up. Yeah you know, and but the New York crowd in what they gave me and and the. The the noise and the feeling of of of of welcome that that they had given me because I had missed it the year before I had reconstructive surgery and didn't know if I was GONNA play. ever play tennis again and and the welcome that they gave me back and then the the way they got behind me and pushed me. Because let's face it. I mean I should have been out in the first round. You know if if it wasn't for that crowd, and and you know all along the way you know. They pushed me in the harder. They pushed me. The more I wanted to play for them, so it was. It was beyond a perfect match. You know throughout the course of my career, but those two weeks was. You know was perfection or speaking of the surgery Jimmy. You may remember this. I'm sure you do breath. I don't know if you know this story, but I think as somebody in the media business bread I think maybe you'll related this on the way up when I was I was in Santa Barbara because I went to UC Santa Barbara and Jimmy. I'm sure that's not who I was because I was a young reporter on. On the way up, but we actually had a mutual friend. If you can believe this, and that mutual friend was a guy named Dr Rich Shamburg and he was the one that did the surgery on Jimmy's wrist, and the reason I knew him was I knew another guy named Kim Olson, did I used to play tennis with because I played tennis in high school in the Valley Brett, so we used to go to. Some of the mansions in Montecito, because my Guy Olson owned insurance company, and he tried to hustle business, so we would get on these courts with these rich guys as you guys know. Sports is the great equalizer, right? These rich guys sucked and none of them can play a lick. We used to tank all these matches, Jimmy so, my guy could get business, but he would never get any business and we'd get our asses kicked on. Like what are we doing here? It's the biggest waste of time and Mike I would say to me. Hey Man shut your mouth. We'll go to Harrys Plaza cafe. We'll get a couple of bloodies all pay for it. And this went on and on and on, and we never got anywhere. Point of the story is the DOC says to me one day, guys. He says Jim you know I did. Jimmy Surgery Doc. He's kind of laid back and quiet on. Michael you kidding you did this was because there was no social media. This wasn't news and Jimmy. You're very private and I said. That's amazing. He says to me. Would you like to interview him on Mike Yeah Yeah? That'd be great. You think he would do it. He was I think he would meet us at Santa Barbara City. City College on the track. He's working Jimmy's wargin. So we did the interview. I mean like fun fact, my goal with this nowhere other than to say Jimmy. That's how you and I met initially, but that was he did your surgery. HOW THE DOC! The DOC said you'll one point Jim. I I need to have a conversation with you. What was the conversation with DOC Sheinberg? Yeah I mean you you. You mentioned that storage I remember that story well and and You know going You know after I. Did that I I've been through a year of just nothing and I couldn't play. My wrist was bad. I would sporadically go out and try to play a tournament and. You Know I. Just you know I wasn't myself so if I, wasn't myself. I didn't really WANNA play. As I, wouldn't try to an event in Europe and and got hammered and got on a plane and came back and I. I remember calling doc and I said Jesus doc I, said you know just just not working out. He says he says you're you're you're back home and I said Yeah. I'm back home. He says you're seeing me tomorrow at nine o'clock. And I said doc I just got home. He says you're finished. If you don't come in you, you. You can't play. I said you're not you're you don't want to go play like that. You're not you're yourself. You're not playing up your own expectations. So, I went in and and and he went in and I went in to see him. He went in my wrist and You know tried to find out what was wrong and and I. I was awake while it well. The whole thing went on. Jim I mean it was an incredible thing and. Talking to him, and and after after about an hour and twenty five minutes, he says I got a close up now. You can't you can't your I'm can't be like this for any longer. He closed up and he and I. I'll never forget the words he said. He says it says either GONNA. GonNa work for for the rest of your life, or you'll be done in five minutes. And, you know that's that was a little. Little heavy. Yeah, yeah, and you know, but it was right so I, mean I. I went home and and was depressed You know it was down. I mean every everybody else out training and playing tennis and you know which was my job, which is what I wanted to do and you know so. I really didn't You know didn't figure out anything for for weeks. and. Until until dot dot finally knocked on my door because I know he'd been talking to my wife, Patti, and and just you came in, and he says this is unacceptable. You says get up, get out, and he says because at this works I'm not going to you know. Go in and take a chance on. You know doing all this having to be successful and you'd be out of shape. So you know I got up and you know. We went over and he started training with me. and. Got Me up every day and and you know work the into it, and you know the more, the more I did it. The better shape I got into the more. My mind got right and until. He finally you know, told me after I. Think it was like eight or nine weeks. He says he says I'm. GonNa Change Your cast and he says I want you to go hit on a backboard. You know or have or have bret an Aubrey. Throw your balls like you know. When when I first began as a beginner, and and and that's the way I got back into. It it was. It was an incredible experience. I mean do what I want to go through it again. No 'cause I waste of the year and everything else that that I had to go through to do that, but the the experience to get me through there, I knew then just how precious that time was. You know that to give up a year especially at that age I was in my late thirties thirty eight something like that then to have to give up a year then. You know was. Was A was a total waste and and and to be able to go out and play again I. I was not going to let that go by if if I was able to play and and From the very first day, the I'll be out there. I said my mind got straight, and I had one goal, and that goal was that if I could go play was to to to make a make some moisture, some noise at the US Open and you know. I played the French had some success played Wimbledon success, but you know once I got to the US Open. I felt if you know if I could win a mattress so i. I get stuck in the tournament. Maybe I could make a little noise and a little noise came my way, which was which was pretty good. It's amazing Jimmy. The thing I'm struck by with that story is at that age at thirty eight. Given what you've already accomplished. You didn't need to do that. You didn't need to put yourself out there. You go through the pain, the Rehab the surgery, but then again. That's always been your entire life solaire. Did exactly I was GONNA go there. Answer that for me. Why did you have to do that? Well I I didn't want to be told to go. You know if I was going to leave I had to go out on my own terms, and and know that that I did everything I could to to get back into to try to be what I thought I could be. and and if I wouldn't have had that surgery, and I just accepted that you know, and and kind of just kind of gone away with a whimper You know that wasn't my style. I was going go. I had to go. You know trying everything to to get back and and You know once Once I hit. That I ball once I played that my first match, coming back and I got hammered. You knows no, no, it wasn't a problem. I wasn't there to. You know to win. I was there to experiment You know to to figure out if if I kept going and got a little stronger and what I had to do to. You know to make the risk better. You know I I was willing to try anything in in at thirty eight. You know you look at that and you say you know you're not. And and you know I I live. My life played my tennis being nuts. And there was no time to stop now because you know, my time was running out anyway and to have one last shot. You know it. I'll I'll never forget you know when I when I got through. One of those matches my friend Stasi was watching and he he came up afterwards and he says he and it's. Been told many times, but he told me he says you got what everybody else wants Jimmy. And I didn't know what he meant. But. You've got one more chance. And and and you know I said. You know what he's saying that you know. How how do I? How do I? Step around that and say well. It's you know. Give Up. No, there was no no give up. Then then it was just let everything out, and you know hope for the best and never give up. Your whole thing was if it takes five hours seven hours ten hours, I'm not leaving this court until they drag me off the court so all this work Jimmy and you set it up because you want to make some noise in. In New York and you go to the US, open and hilarious in a way you drop Patrick. McEnroe in the first round given your history and rivalry with John that was kind of curious, but then all of a sudden Jimmy again you're the epitome of not dead can't quit, but then you suddenly down two sets to none to love two sets down three love in the third. What are you thinking in that moment I know you've never given up on anything. But truthfully. What were you thinking in that moment? You know. Things happened so quick. you know I I said all I need 'cause. I wasn't playing bad tennis. I was playing some pretty damn good tennis and and. At that time just getting beaten. And so I figured that you know one one something has got to happen here to change this whole the whole momentum whether it was. You know shot or a fan or a call or you know something was going to have to switch some of the momentum, and and you know to be honest with you. I wish I could remember. Go back and figure out what that was because I. Don't remember, but you know all the sudden. You know my my whole mindset, my whole attitude, my whole game changed. because it had to because you know being down that far I, mean it. was you know in doing what I was doing was not GonNa win that match. So once my you know, my game changed I became more aggressive. I became more confident in my shots I became. I became what I always was It's it seems Kinda crazy to say that, but but I finally found that feeling of what it was like to be me. and You know that you know if that wants that caught on then then I felt that just staying there and keep Ryan and you know I I made a living off of being grinder, and and you know got into it and got stuck into it, and I got more confidence. You know. Patrick might have felt a little bit of the pressure coming his way and. You know I ended up. Know coming out on top six, four, hundred fast, but yeah I. Mean it was a it was a story beginning to to Alaska had run, which led to the most amazing two weeks of your career like bread Jimmy. You and your mom and your sister home. You guys were not there for that, so you're at home. Are you watching this? What were you thinking pops was down two sets to love three Oh. Yeah I mean I definitely was watching Yeah, he'd send his home the week before Roy. Interesting story you. Got a second, please he. He played the Hamlet Cup, which was a tournament that that happened a couple of weeks before the US, open, you know one of the prelims, anyone. A couple round I can't remember what round it was, but he. I think he drew Stefan Edberg, and like the quarters something like the quarters i. think that's right up. He's upset and maybe even up a set and a break, and then all of a sudden. Stops doing what he's been doing the whole match. And I'm like I'm looking at the hill. You know what's going on, you know you know. He's been dominating Edberg the top two or three player at the time. And he ended up losing in three sets, and then we're driving back in the in the limo back to the city to New York. And I'm like what happened. You know like you had a suburb. Semi at us, and he's just sitting there. Almost with this kind of calm look on his face now like Kinda, just telling me like it's okay. It's all good you know, and now that I look back what he was doing. He was testing his game. You know he was up a set and a break on the top three player. You know in in I think what he wanted to do is make sure his game was okay. You know and then he didn't WanNa waste all the energy by making another round or making. Send me the finals. You know. He was saving himself the US. Open you know so much his. Year and a half before that had been focused on the US Open. And, so he figured he'd had his know. Game was an order. You know if you can get up the set and a break on the top three player. Then you know he's definitely ready to play the US. Open. So that always sticks out in my mind that you know two weeks before you know he was already thinking about. You know this first found the panel. A great story because Jim you never. That's the thing I mean like any other great athlete. You'RE GONNA. Go out there and get hammered sometimes, but you were never not prepared i. mean never ever not prepared. And I talked to Kurt Warner earlier today on my radio program and I think both you guys could really relate to this Jimmy especially you. Kurt was talking about. About how he's loved, he loved the film work. He loved the mental game. He loved to think his way through a game and I know you love to think your way through around around a match in a figure it out. If I were to ask you Jimmy what was your strongest tool then? Was it your game? Was it your mind or was it your heart? yeah. Right yeah, I I feel that you know. The intangibles are one thing that you know especially in tennis. Don't get enough credit. If you look at the game you go out there. Everybody plays great tennis. They hit the ball well, and and but it's it's Those who have you know the the will the strong mind and the heart the guts and you know and You know to to understand what it's like. When you get in a situation, you know how to handle it out to go about it. You know. Don't waste your energy. Don't waste your time. You know everything is done for a purpose and You know you asked me what was good. Certainly you know to to win tennis matches and especially Grand Slam tournaments which are two weeks so. You know playing three out of five sets. You've gotta be doing everything well, playing the game and and being a good mental state, but. If you, if you leave out that that that intestinal fortitude, you know what you have inside that That can never be let out left left off the table because you know when you got somebody who's got. That is willing to go out there and stay in play five six hours with you. No matter what you know, that wears on the other guy as much as it's wearing on, you know what would wear on me, and and but I was prepared for it. And, you know to you know I hate to give you a flip answer that yeah was all three, but you know to. You know especially at at you know getting later on in life and missing a you know in my career and and missing a year before you know I. I had to to adjust. To go into that tournament if I was going to. Stay in play into the second week and I did a few things very well and and was able to bide my time well on the courts I became more aggressive, and and didn't stay so much on the baseline, so I tried to get into the net a little bit more. But but What I had inside. I wish I. I wish I still had that in a lot of things I missed that. and and and I WANNA. You know I I I love the rocky movies. Jim and you know anything to do with sports, but there was one line. Into last rocky. and and he was gonNA. Just go in and I. Remember Him saying he says. Sometimes I. Just can't breeze. At, because because it's down there, because you never really get get that out of your system. You know and and to to you because you missed the training and you missed the travel you the matches you miss the glory. You missed the you know the getting hammered. You know till you missile that you know it in sometimes in in unless you are lucky and and I have been very lucky because I was able to to play, you know until I was fifty, so I got it all out of my system, but if I wouldn't have been able to come back and play after that rich wrist surgery I would have had that in me. That that I. I can't breathe because I wouldn't have gotten it out of my system. And I'll never you know I? I go back to that line because it's true I and and To have that in a movie, because you usually wouldn't hear that from somebody unless they were one of the guys out there doing the grind in playing and being one of the players, but it was in a movie, and I've never heard anybody else say at that way, but but I could identify with that because it's a you know walking away from something that you put your you know your, put your whole life into and and your whole being to try to be the best at something, and all the sudden it comes to an end, and and you know sometimes that's tough to take and a lot of a lot of these young athletes today. I hope they understand that you know this could be over in the blink of an eye also. That things happen and and You know so appreciate every day, and in work at it every day and give it your best every day. Because when it's over, it's over and There's no there's no going back and say I wish I could take that again. So, You have to live with that and and my my My what if I don't have one? What if and that and that's a pretty good for my mental state lots amazing. What a powerful message! So Brett ultimately picked Gulf over tennis. So what was it like playing golf? With Your Dad on the way up, and what was it like the first time you beat him on the golf course? Yeah I mean I played tennis till I was about thirteen, fourteen and I tried to play both sports for you're in high school and it was too much. So I? I was definitely better at Golf. I went with the golf and You know. He took me every day. Pick me up from school. You know once you know once. He was little once he was done on tour and we'd go hit balls and then play nine holes before dinner. You know and he would always beat me. beat me. beat me and. I can't remember how old I was. Maybe you know fourteen something like that. You know and I finally beat him and. You know part of me was excited. The part of me was almost like you know Oh you know. What I beat them all now isn't gonNA. Kill saggy or something like that and you know. I looked over and you know he was more proud of my accomplishment than I. was you know so? That just seemed like something that you know wasn't still from him from his mom. I think. She was probably similar when she taught him tennis and Kind of had the same story with him when he her the first time. It didn't take him long to be a he's. He's a little modest gem. It didn't take him long. He's you know. He learned right from the very beginning and you know took took the lessons and you know had had everything from the basics down. And learned it the right way and there's there's no substitute for that You know it was like you know. Be With the tennis you know I. I got the good basics early. And then you go on and spread your wings wings, and do other you know and move on and try to become better, and that's exactly what he did, and and You know all through high school. He got nothing but better, and and it was. was. Fun. You know when he'd take me along with him. Saying you know come on out, play with me once in a while dad, and then you know was kind of fun for him to still you know, tag me along and get in the games, but he. He had a good game from the beginning, but you know he also You know had had talent in tennis, too. You know he was a good athlete he was. A good basketball player, and you know, play tennis, play, Golf, and a good athlete, and and you know when when he didn't pick tennis that that wasn't a problem for me because I wasn't going to force him into that. You know it's a you know as as a tough enough game. You know he didn't have to live up to. You. Know what what what he would think. My expectations were of in, but even more important. You know the the world's expectations of email that would that would be unfair. You know so. When he went to Golf, I was actually Kinda happy about that in in in proud of him for picking his own way. I I think that bothered me a lot more when I was younger, the tennis aspect and trying to live up to his name, and that probably helps kind of push me into the Gulf War. You Know Kinda gave me. My own thing. To have is mine and. I look back at the time. You know those early days where we're both learning how to play it. You know some of the fun time in my life, just because you know spending hours at the quarters trying this and videotaping each other swing and going home, you know watching it on slow mo on the old. Records and Stuff like that was great i. mean you want your own guy to be sure and I know you're proud of your dad. Obviously, but I I remember even like growing up southern California and you know that that's a hotbed for tennis. I remember the junior tournaments. I can only imagine obviously the Bozize that must have been on your back. His Jimmy Connors kid coming up in the ranks, right playing junior tennis i. mean you probably ensure away from probably went after it, but that will wear you down. Wear anybody down. Yeah I. Mean I think you know I? Think when I was younger, I was a little too sensitive to it. You know almost where I would put too much pressure on myself and get to someone. beat me. I'd be like you know you didn't beat. You didn't eat my dad awesome, beat me! I Shit compared to anything compared to him. But you know I think it frustrated me earlier but I still use that. Competitive Drive, and and everything that he instilled in me. You know as a kid growing up in my golf game and played throughout high school, and I played a played a little bit in college and. Try and still get out there and hustle the old man once in a while to. Get over does that work? I don't know you know you gotta ask him. What his Andy CAPP is from day to day. It seems to fluctuate. It's got to play against too many Bantus out here. Right right, you guys, you guys hit Sam Piper. What are you planning these days, Jim? Yeah I mean the The courses are open up here. the Montecito Country Club is is not open and and the gentleman that owns that club also and Sandpiper in Rancho San Marco, so the those courses aren't open, but number of the other courses are open now, so we get out, get out and I play. You know try to play a day maybe two week if I can which is good, but you know I I enjoy the golf Jim it's a it's A. It's a good replacement. But it's it's not tennis. You know to me I, mean I! It's I, mean my heart, my love. My everything is still to that game and into. You know and and you know. Somebody asked me the other day says do you miss it and you know I? My only answer to that is every day. I Miss I miss everything about it I missed the traveling this the practice I missed the training. You know most of all I missed the matches, but you know time has certainly caught up with me many years ago, but but it's It's just that feeling of of of still thinking that that hey, give me half a shot and let me go out and try it again. You know that that this kind of fun to to to think about or talk about once in a while, but I, certainly don't harp on it, you know my past is my past and. I loved it and I lived in in. every day that I played it but you know it is my past and I have you know have such a great family? And and you know my life now is You know every Sunday I told my. Telling my my family, my mom and my grandma, and my GRANDPA and my dad, I I, thank them for this life. They've given me and and I'm so I'm such a such a lucky guy. Such lucky guy. It's so amazing. Jimmy whenever I talk. Athletes about woody miss most inevitably, though say the Camaraderie, the Camaraderie, the Fellas, but these guys from team sports. is so different like I'm really curious for instance like in that fourth round of the open. You played Aaron Krickstein another famous famous famous match? You guys were good friends. You guys. We're tight, but the world's different I'm curious when you watched the last dance with Jordan, and you could see that this guy did not want to connect with or Fratton is with the opposition. He wanted to rip their throats out. This is the way it was when you played. Played in the such amazing rivalries, but that's not say that your friends. I mean you were tight with Vitas you retired witnessed Taza humor France. How did you approach that? Could you fraternize with those guys or was it all business all the time? Know wasn't all this all the time I mean. It was when when it was on the court. It certainly was you know and and you know I I'll tell you the story of of. He was such. Such my best friend from from day one. He really took me under his wing and and We were under the same manager. Bill reardon at the time and so he took me and and and really showed me the ropes at a young age. You know a good ropes and bad roads, and which was fun, but but I. I don't know I I. Think I WANNA. Say Ten Times that we played. He beat me. And the reason being was because. I was too good friend, or he was too good a friend to me. You know an and at that time I was young and I couldn't separate the two he could I couldn't. You know so I remember one going home and I just lost in the stars, and my mom said you know you better beat him, or you're going GONNA lose him as a friend. You know because he's GonNa. Lose respect for you, and and that was that that got into my head so quick that that said you know you're right. And and from that time on I think we became better friends. You know when I. When I started beating. but but I say that. Only, because from that point on you know once. I walked onto the court. It was all business. I could I could let loose a little bit after the you know to get away from it and all that, but when I. When I was in it I was in and out in and I wasn't going to. Alber screw up and and even though I did a few times, I couldn't afford to be. Too many people invested too much in me. My mom my, grandma my. GRANDPA my dad. Pancho Segura my wife Patti my two kids. I I couldn't I couldn't afford to screw up to the point of of never giving it my all because you know, they didn't invest the money. It wasn't the money. You know it was the you know the love and the care, and and you know the the allowance to me and go into to take care of my business. and and so yeah, once once I walked onto that court. You know I. I was a different guy. There's no doubt about it and and you know I I like that I love that attitude in me, and and I miss that because I'm older now and I. Don't have that release and so I. Don't have that but I I certainly missed that every day. I mean Jimmy was so much more than money. They invested your your mom. Your grandma, your father, your GRANDPA, the invented. They invested so much more than just money. Their life, right life I'm new move to southern California to train with the right coach and went to Ucla. You are national championship as a freshman like you mentioned your mom. Your mom famously taught you to play. She taught Brett to play like what was your mom like? Well, have you she? You know she was you know the. She handled me my whole career. Really and so you know she was You know a woman dealing with men in a in a in a man's game. You know to. You know to deal in back then. That was pretty unacceptable. You know so you know she? She was beyond gentle beyond kind. but at the same time she was tough. But she knew when to be tough. and I don't mean just on on me and and playing tennis I, mean in you know in everyday life I mean you know. She was not want she. She was five foot at the best one hundred and five pounds at best, but you know she wasn't. GonNa take anything from anybody. And you know from from my standpoint I think I learned an awful lot just watching her. You know the way. She handled her students when she would teach him The way. She dealt with people the way you know. She was around the game of tennis and then the way she was when she wasn't around the game of tennis, and so she and and my grandmother. You all of them, my grandfather, my dad, you know what I picked up from from. All of them was was instilled in me. And and You know to to say that that that just to say well, you know. My mom was tough. She was a stage door, mom, she was none of that or she was all of that. You know it's just it's a matter of how you looked at it and. And and felt about it, but I'm am going to say this gym that she was from me one hundred and ten percent. You know no matter what you know that that that that she was for me, and and once I got out there and and was was having a chance to make it. She let that be known. And people didn't like that. You know they they didn't want to hear that. You know that that she was so far me like that, so you know she got the well. She never made it, so it's more important for son to make it now. She was none of that. She made it on her own, but but she instilled in me. You know the the what that what she meant to me that loyalty that that she had towards me was something that was you know you could never get in between fascinated by that I? Want to ask you about the podcast and one second just one quick follow and believe me guys. I could do this all day long. I'm going to wrap it up. Up So I don't do this all day long, but Jimmy I guess in a sense like I totally accept that and believe that embrace that she was not living vicariously through you. She had a life your extremely important to her, and she gave you everything she had. I wonder it must have been hard for her to watch you play. Did you finally get a sense of what it must have been like for her? When you yourself started to coach? She called me more every day when I was coaching with with Andy. You know what what you're telling him. Now I think if you did this telling you. That would help you know Did you think this? Maybe we should? I'll call you later. You know I mean it, was she? She was as involved. From a distance as she could be and and Andy success that he had along the way when we were together. She loved it. She she kinda live through that a little bit because she. She has gotten housebound, so she got to. You know to to know what it was like to almost you to. Be Their only on the television again and and she was, she was so happy because. Two people in the World Jim that that love tennis. Was My mom and Pancho Segura. They would watch tennis nonstop. They would talk tennis nonstop and anytime you give them a chance. They'd been earier on it and and that was You know I knew. then. What was what it was like when she watched me because when I was coaching, Andy I want I think I was in the stands wanting wanting him to win more than he wanted to win share and it was just that was in that was my nature, and and and he made me proud so many times it was It was a fun couple of years. We had I can hear it. It in the family, the whole family thread the thing I like about you guys and I've never spoken to your mother. I never met your mother, but you could tell it just missing a sound, and not we flip, but it's a no haters zone you guys are. There's nothing weird you guys are it's it's pure unadulterated love. You're pulling for each other. Nobody's better than the other is his family. This is. Is Blood like an brings me back to the original thing that you get to do this project together like bread. I think probably it's not a big deal to you because you grew up with your in the business. It's always been like this, but the fact that you guys pulled Mike Tyson as your first guest is something I've done this for thirty years. This is not an easy guy to get to. To this is not an easy gotta turnaround, and he's certainly and I've had my moments with Mike some good and some terrifying. He's not the easiest guy to be with. Either when you get good Mike, it's it's amazing. Mike is like the most charismatic guy but Mike's not in the best way. Look the hell out Brett. What was it like to be with an interview Mike for your first on the podcast. Yeah it was. It was pretty ethics dude, I mean. I've always been a fan loved the guy you know growing up watching him play and in the fight. You know and the CNN kind of have some troubles in life, and then pick themselves back up in You know seeing them build themselves the way. The way is now. He's you know he's backed up on top almost It was a little intimidating. At first you know 'cause you. You know the first time I've interviewed anybody. That was you know. I've done some stuff and my job, but never you never with real hard hitting questions you know usually it's more soft fluff in you know week. We little softballs that you. You know you love the Guy, but you know he was open to anything I mean you know ten or fifteen minutes into the end of the interview? He was tearing up. And you know we're talking about family and ego, and just you know he might be one of the most interesting guys in the world, but it was. It was awesome. I mean Jimmy you're as a world class athlete Jimmy. You know what makes take what makes guys go. How Eager Jimmy you to sit down with Mike, and how'd that go for you? Have you? Brought up the storage, and I was playing tennis in Europe and he was fighting, and and they, they tape the the fight for me, so that I could instead of staying up until two or three in the morning to that I could could get up the next day and watch it I mean you know He. He's the kind of guy you know for me. I mean I love Dali I love Frazier and you know Sugar Ray Leonard, and Tommy hearns and you know Marvin. Hagler I to see so. Many of the greats fight over the course of the years. But Tyson was was a different breed, a different character He walked in the the ring. He you know he had You know shorts on shoes on. Yeta torn towel over his neck, and he and he was no frills, he just he just wanted to get down to business, and and I love that you know he I asked him. I said Do you study? Study you know because I never really studied my opponents I. Just took my game out there. You know if that work that was good or try to adjust, but he said I study. You know before I walk out there as I'm walking out, I'm looking at one last thing always so I know exactly what? I'm GonNa, do you know and and to hear that from? You know from the champ you know. And you walk in and you're. You're expecting. You know somebody that's you know six six, and to sixty or whatever he's not. He's five ten five eleven, but you know he's a truck you use. The tank is just GonNa come at you and just give you everything that he has. You know from from the minute that bell rings you know that that to me I mean that's that's. That's my Kinda Guy. You know that the. Dahl in tennis and and You Know Tyson boxing where you go out there and you're going to have to bury the guy to to get him off there. And and he was, he was fun to watch man, but the to talk to him and bread set it right. He has one interesting guy, and and You know to to to picked himself up and you know and got back in the game like he has and and become. You know just as a problem just as popular if not more than than he was back then she's you know what a story that is, and you know nothing but the best one Jimmy One last opera I want you. You to make sure that everybody knows how to find the podcast and where to find you guys on social. I'M GONNA. Ask you that one second Brett Jimmy to your point about Mike saying when you ask them, did you study? How did you prepare? I can remember that era very clearly and Mike Jimmy had so. Many guys beaten before they step through the ropes because he was so terrifying and he was so intimidating. Tennis is so unusual. Jimmy like, did you? Could you win matches in the locker room before you took the court? Were you able to kind of intimidate guys getting their heads before you even played them, but it was unintentional Jim. Yeah, come on, come on. Me Doing. Awesome, anyway but. You know that that wasn't allowed in tennis. Come off, so we're tight shorts. Shoes. You know you know tennis golf. Tennis Change Jim Tennis changed in the seventies and the eighties. It went, it went from a country club sport and you know. Every everybody Love the game. You know she seems to just WanNa. Be a part of it. They you know we we were losing. You know the Real Sports Fan you. We playing in front of five thousand people was great. Great Fans and all that, but you know we needed the hockey fans, and and I've talked about this many times to to build Tennessee to where it has become now and and they. The those fans weren't gonNA put up guys hitting tennis balls. You know and granted we were you know we were the wild west back then there were no rules really, and and did we step over the line? Sure we did, but you know it was. But we had to you know we. We had to to to try to get the tennis on a different level. in and the guys that that I came up with and the way they handled, andled it, and you know the charisma and the characters, and the excitement that the that they all brought to the game and their own way. forget just the tennis, but even you know just just as much vitas off the court. Life was just as important as the way he played tennis. And that and that's and that's what sold. That's what was selling. You know not just Tennessee. You know you wanted to know. Where did he go to studio fifty four after the? Five, hundred match at the US Open. People wanted to know that because we were real people, we were real. We were them, you know. Down on the court you know playing for them. That's an and I. think that's what a what caught on for tennis in the seventies and eighties that that that they that they felt like they were off down there, playing and You know what a fit. Illinois. Now any man get it out of the country club. Give us some personality. Give us some rivalries. It was so awesome like I got tired of asking the question of like. What do we do how we get that back? Is it technology? Do Guys had played the Jack? Kramer's and go back to the wooden rackets is just too much. Serve Volley. Point survived point. Where's the personality, Jimmy? What was it like? Dat vetus with you in that run at the US Open Ninety one well I. You know. He was a good outlet for me because he was doing the TV. so I had a. you know I'll always felt that. I had a friend up there booth and I talk. Even though I wasn't getting an answer back, but I you know Kinda quit. Say a few little quips to him and and you know. Kinda relieve a little bit of the tension. You know you know to to go through that and and you know it's Vitas traveled with me for a couple years even before that US Open and Europe we play doubles at the French together and then after that he played the senior tour. With me for a couple of years and before his passing, and I mean he was, he was the the ultimate for me anyway, he was the ultimate. Not only player, but but for for the cocktail parties in in the pro ams and. His his what writer? He was the guy, right. There was nobody better I mean he he would walk in and he'd. He'd be a part of everything right away. and he was I I miss him every day. It's it's funny. I mean I say that about a lot of people, but but his personality, and in in what he brought the tennis and then everything else that. Did he got around was was pretty special. You brought one thought about Vitas like it's easy to get caught up in him. Being the guy in the look and the hair bright, he could play now like Vitas set-asides number four right in the world. He could play. Yeah he he won well butter you. You'd know more than I, but he he wanted. He I want. Australia was in the finals of the French is in the finals. The Open Semifinals Wimbledon. Davis Cup. I mean he's. He's had a a hall of fame career, and he's not in the hall of fame. Come on! A lot of guys in there with a lot less you know that are that are in the hall of fame that and and not to have vitas in there's It is a sin. It Brett I normally. Don't keep guys this long and you guys are now in this game. So you know how this goes, but that's how much fun that wasn't i. so appreciate it bred. People WanNA find podcast. Where do they go to find it? And if they WANNA find you guys on social where they go to find you guys on social? Yeah! We're available on all the major off cast platforms podcast spotify Google podcasts Yeah on twitter. You can follow us at a DVD connors and instagram. All you can spell it all out at advantage, connors and we have a youtube channel advantage connors, so you can follow us with all their and check out the podcast and give us some feedback. We'd love to hear from I. Love that. So, how is your photography business? It's good man. It's tough right now. Just not being able to travel and do so much, but you know I I still get out there. You know I love love. Taking pictures in door I got thrown. AIRFLI- that around? I can get a chance and you know it's fun I love doing it. It's and if I could make a little money on the side you WANNA to. Blast Jimmy. That was so fun I again. I didn't mean take so much time. It was so great to get caught up to meet Britain have him on the program, Jimmy. That was so much fun print. Appreciate you, too. That was great. Thanks, guys! Thanks, thank you. My thanks to the Connors Jimmy and Brett, both what amazing conversation that was that was an absolute blast, and make sure you find their podcast advantage connors wherever you get your podcasts. Hit them up on twitter. Let them know what you thought. What you just heard I'm back next week with another episode like I. Always Am so make sure you get subscribed right now until then here or your coveted voicemails I. Miss Eight. Thirty three years old African American male, he gets together with small, but as long beach where he was one of the only black person there they get together, and they had a brunch last year, and to make a long story short, the homeowner had to take off for a minute and my dad. He goes into the backyard to pick a lemon off of his friends, and I'm intrigued and his neighbor season. She calls the cops. They cordoned off the block and Yeltsin, my father, a megaphone to come out with his hands up. He's on the ground, handcuffed the neighbor. The homeowner sees a block away comes out. Police know what's going on, and they let him go. This is not nineteen, sixty, nineteen seventy. This is last year blows me away around. That's just kind of a sense as to what we have going on. Appreciate doing this show man this a great. We need to talk about these issues. Thank you. Massive saved next message Romi. Might. Have you know and you just want? Let you have me and the FELLAS. We're going to go out made it to not. Some cat I join daily going to be with US I mean you're gonNA, call multi and get some cash. Set up in here. You know what I mean like any ice. You know the number you may ring. Eight. Message deleted next message Trim Rome. This is Jim from Ohio. I'm laughing my fucking. What she did to Fabien Territory Larry. It was the best yet you've done I'm crying. I'm dying Dude I love it. I'm glad you can make me laugh during the pandemic. Keep up the good work for other. Message saved next message Jimmy Johnny in Texas. What's going on? Am pre-state the show today? Thanks for hitting that topic I'm totally on board and any clone doesn't WanNa, follow you because they don't like you. Have Marines social issues? Sia, don't let the door hit you in the ASS. Peace I'm out, brother. Massive saved next message Romaine just. Hey Brock congratulations on having I mac off from a video, but you said offense. You said you're going to be watching that thing from your hot tub. Favor staying tub. It don't make that phone call that day. In fact, the. Bra I WANNA be hearing from is fake ship introducing once again? Joe Paul Mary hotdog take a May come home. Message Deleted Next Message Jim Twenty one year listener to show I live in Kansas City Missouri and I. Just want to thank you for the show you've done today. I think it's actually the most important show done I know you say that you're a sports. Talk show host, but you have a big microphone and I think you're a very intelligent and FIFA person, and with intelligence, and the microphone carries a big responsibility, and you've carried out that responsibility very well. I've never called you show that I felt so strongly about this I was compelled to call. Thank you very much. MASSIVE SAVED NEXT MESSAGE HEY JIM ROME! My name is Tina I live in Lamesa where the riots happened and I'm telling you, they're small businesses. Crying in freaking out because businesses were looted and vandalized. It's ridiculous. Something's gotTa Change in Nineteen Ninety two. If they would have prosecuted those that be Rodney King that was live on the air for the world to see. Would've been different now. Thank you, I'm out! SAVED NEXT MESSAGE JIM FOGGIN. Rome just want to say thanks for the Brandon Boyd. PODCAST dowse fucking ethic I can never call show 'cause I have a mouth that makes crackers flushing since sailors running the bar, covering their ears, but I got a set fire to my source, because they didn't even know good in that interview, I do want to get on the Brandon Boyd and Jim Rome mailing list for your guys and book. Club out would be fucking awesome. I believe there's nobody you can't interview although I think the one air you haven't have you got interview someone from the adult film industry make it happen. Nothing saved. You have no more in that suggest. 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Good up to a good afternoon cam. How you doing I'm good. Man I'm good been A. Man Things went left. In the world, and how are you hold on this whole isolation social distancing manner you hanging in there doing the best that I can actually. The making the best of it, you know. I've cut like a nice stride lately in life, but also creatively. And it's it's really got me thinking about just creativity in art on and the purpose of art as a whole. Getting me to rethink all that productivity. How glad to hear that because I thought you would be up your old world of warcraft account and just wasting time, but. I mean I've been doing so. I! You know I have. It's been fun I haven't even. Man. There's this game agent. I haven't played in years. I. Don't WanNa play again. I've been listening to video game soundtracks all morning. Thanks to you! Listen to remain heroes soundtracks. Man I forgot how much of a jam that stuff is. Oh, well. Yeah, they had you know I was into. I just Kinda did a slight comb over some your old interviews and I was like man me and him. He's like times more talented than me, but. I was GONNA? Ask you so you're into video games. I'm definitely into it. I and you know what since I've been doing this podcast. I've I would say half the people I interview credit streets of rage, two as like their inspiration for even getting an C. Whoa really day and wet generation are they come thirty, one eighty nine. I like the same age as me to about the same, so like Brandon DJ early staffer Joey Bad ass, and the whole pro era that was often streets of rage two they they were just smoking, playing video games and college and now. We love this stuff and let's start making music. You gotta listen to that one because I, Know Brandon Shaming. He's he's a good dude. He showed me around showed me how to use the train in New York when I visited. Yeah, I think my vision of this podcast was kind of how you discovered Connie from a twenty year old XL magazine, I want people to go through my guest list, and maybe they'll find a producer older young. That has an interesting stories. They never heard before. It's kind of same formula you know. Hell Yeah I feel that Yeah. That's so cool. That's so cool and I'm glad to be able to to provide. There's somebody out there if you're if you. Do you. Do you have Disney plus by any chance? My sister does so I use her account, but but I watched dumble the other day. Did you re watch the three Caballeros? Yes. How you know that one never been. I if you like the film checkout the legend of the three caliber, it's also a Disney plasma. Oh I didn't even know it exists. So. Okay I'm definitely GonNa because you know the company. Also. When I was a kid man, I used to watch that. Like on VHS religiously like all the time, and it was so interesting. I don't know. I just loved it. Man Like it was so amazing and washed a request. Don't between sixteen, so that was like four years ago. You know at in addition to all the feelings that I had as a kid coming back when I was watching it. which is all like a crazy thing watching stuff from your childhood, but? I realize how. Damn trippy that. That movie was. Out like. Crazy was in psychedelic. End Just wacky was. And but so cool still, and it's like anime in the eighties. It was just there wasn't a blueprint for it, so they could just be as crazy as they wanted to be. With the narrative and the animation and every day is Egli. Dance I'm definitely GONNA. Look at that though. I'm putting you on some stuff you put you put me on. This man I watched this interview, did and you? You came across this album called Sky Islands. And I was like that album has one of my favorite deejay premier samples of all time, but it was called pitch-black there's. Over relies over Pitch Black Maria. Pitch Black relies. One to. Kiss! On my God, like like who's GonNa put Marley Marl sample with with. A Sky Islands in the ancient source I mean it's it's insane. I know. Yeah Premiere man like it's Craig's all those hip hop. Brokers like that one particular. by a Z. There's a song by as e I. Think is produced by Premiere. AIZIE. Who is the format? Yes, the format. dudes that we're kindred spirits right now. Yes though that beat so that be? And the pitch black be the real be and diddy Bob. no-name. To me like they all draw from the same Palette of the same. Kind of Texas seems sort of. World in New, York City Cameron It's like there's something about those. If you're like if you're feeling it the similarity between those for songs, but that sound that is in the format filling us in the format, and in all real like inspire me tremendously. and. It's also in that sky. Highlands sample that a that a Caldera simple. Ancient source it's in there and it's a lot of jazz fusion records in like And it's also in video game. Music is a lot of music is very jazz fusion esque like Hedgehog. Greenhills on Mike Barrowman's sixty four, which is to me? The best game ever made. It's a tragedy because they never made another one like that since. Never made another one like for it, either it's the only game of its kind. That exists and the music is insane. and. There's this common thread through all of those all of that music to me. I never thought we would love Cameron in their two, thousand and four, I was in college, and I remember I had a nineteen eighty nine Honda accord with four fifteens in the trump, because that's just what you did. In two thousand four right and Cameron's purple haze came out, and those are track on their called Killa Cam. Do you remember that Song? Yet. School? The base in that song hits so obnoxious. -Ly Crack my back windshield. Purple Haze just came out I'm not really big on sequels but I don't know. What was your take on it? I didn't even know I didn't even know probably. Last year! His comeback and I think a lot of Oji rappers. They do that when they want to revisit the well or become relevant. They'll just slap on a to to their old records. On it, yeah. I don't like cigarettes, either. Because of the fact that like sometimes you can get away with sometimes it can work, but like it's usually a branding thing so and then do with the music and the energy in the VIBE. That was there the first around. They just are like taking the brand. Identity brand the strength of the brand from the original thing. In an slapping the to on it so that they can use the brand to bring to bring the same audience it it would. It would be I, hate people do that because it plays are emotions as As fans of music, because we know like you said, we're tied to the memories and. And the feeling of that of that classic. In so, you kind of playing with us like I'm doing another one doing it again. But you're not really doing it again, you just. You just put it in that package again. You know one of the first ten minutes. We've already talked about like animation and video. Games music. Your sister, though was the one put you on musically, but she's not. With the say she's, she's for lack of a more finesse words. She's more than you. She's yes creative and and visually imaginative. Is You correct yeah? It's funny I think she is the way she expresses herself. Is this you would another that? I kinda like 'em. Moore the. I kind of have this I guess image when people. Meet me who soon as this nerd? You. Know this all like most people when they see me. They asked me if you're an artist on. You know like and I'm like them is really that allow. Me But like. But with my sister is is not as obvious but. I. Get all of this like a lot of that from her. You know an older brother to motor. Brother was always that to me to like grown up, and he was sort of like my sister, but a little bit more Nerdy, but you know he was out. Running the streets, he was like a genius. archetype this architect by made up, you know how young has architects? Have the have this one archetype that that that I made Mehta based on my life experience. This type of person I call hood genius in its people that I meet them met in my life who are from the from the ghetto who are hood who do things? Like, sell drugs and shit. But should the associate with with the hood live in, but at the same time there's something about like culturally. They are also like. They're exposed to all these other non hood things. And like they're also like. They're usually very much into anime. There's very. Hyper intelligent philosophical stuff that was like my big brother and an athletic like like very good sports can probably draw azoff really good at playing an instrument or some sort of creative thing like that, but also. Sales, we also like is in a gang. You know yeah, I like that. It's just like on your parents. I have three kids, and they've all spiderweb into very different human beings all from the product of your environment because when I think Vegas. Jerk reactions thing about the strip. People don't know that there's a hood in Vegas. There's there's real life. There really is an and I'm one of six actually as a big family. I'm GonNa Credit your older sister to with. With listening to the Neptune's before people were listening to the Neptune's hell yeah. was maybe sister was a big music fan man like? Nan like she was a real big music fan, and she she has so. She had it all and she was listening to the music. You know for the pure love of the music. You know that s w v. when this feeling was her jam, she put that on. That was her cleaning music. Too, but they don't repeat it. I remember like. Plane Remember sitting down the Hallway, listening to that Song repeat which Nixon was produced before they were like a big name, and I love that song, but it just every time I hear this song. Bring back the memory me. Her plane I repeat missing in the hallway playing with these glowna dark mega blocks which are like. Oh, those are blake legos weren't the I remember those. I remember those. We! Where are you from? I'm from central Texas near Austin I'm not too far. Texas is a big state. It Yeah I. Have family in East Texas. On my big brother lives in damn. It isn't Kaleen now. Oh, my God, I live in colleen. What's up only? Up Lean. Right I think he lives there. I don't know if he's there. He's somewhere I. Remember he was back into places in one of them so group in Killeen. My whole life. Dan has crazy. Here's what's even crazier. The Neptune's didn't produce that. They Co produced it and the guy that co produced it. His name was David. Nick turn I think he's like he's seventy years old now. He's working with a with a twenty year old ferrall and he went on, and and he got nominated for ten daytime Emmys for his work on soap operas, and nobody knows this guy is oh. Hell. Yeah, that's so interesting. He's the guy last night and I c.. H. T. E. R. N.. He's working with a ferrall. WHO's barely drinking age at the time and you can leave commercial music and reinvent yourself as a musical director on one life to live cats so crazy. 'cause you know. It makes me think because that song uses a sample. It makes me wonder if he. Had any part in that original sample I would imagine that he had i. mean because this guy was fifty at the time in forever twenty I imagine that He. Probably was mentoring him. And because when I listened to that song, it doesn't really sound like commercial. Neptune's yet. It seems like they're still trying to. This is like the rump Shaker days. Yes, yes, it is like 'cause. Yeah in the early nineties. Like I'm okay. Okay, I'm looking. That song that. Sample voices by Maria Dr Written by David Nick Turn thirty though I mean. If I'm going to compare that to you, it'd be like Oh. Yeah, this cam, the cocoa butter kisses guy, but now he rap sings. He produces his own albums, which is a creative leap, a lot of producers either can't take or won't take You're right. You're right, man. That is such a crazy thing for me to. To Take that leap like you said a lot of them. You can't take it or won't take it for me. It was for a long time. It was luther, both, but it was like the the former more so than anything I always I wanted to. But I was so afraid that I couldn't so I didn't for a long. You know 'cause I was like. I was putting myself in this in this box. I was telling myself down. I didn't realize it, but I was like. You know I'm just a producer. That's all I. Do is just make beats I help people get their vision. You know like I was telling myself that in which is a crazy thing about identity, and how we identify cels in things like that, but just them this label of producer on myself, not even really knowing really what that is all the way, but yet doing that kind of kept me in that box. For good for good reason now because a time it led me to to really like go deep into being a producer and get really good at that you know and I started on eleven and been doing that since then I'm thirty now so like. Nearly twenty years, but in the process. There was more that was coming to me than just. The duties of a music producer in an anomaly that like I'll be being the studio making artists. And I'm not just making the beat. On just I. Don't I I never really? Sent beats the people. My whole life I do it sometimes, but I really come alive on. I'm in the room which? We're building a song coming up with the concept coming up with the lyrics you know coming up with the. Vocal melodies you know I'm given a lot of rappers rap flows. You know because like they're writing in like manner trying to figure. And I'm and I'm like I got something I'll just like gibberish. Averse. And they'll take by parts from it that they like incorporated diversity I was doing it for a long time so I guess it was always in me to be able to do more than just make the be. Is that limiting? Because it seems like you don't make one hundred beats and let people choose your motor. Craft beats like you said with people in their studio. Is Limiting. Yeah, I mean you could make five beats a day and sell it a thousand a piece, but instead I mean because what's cool is like you say you produce for Kendrick Lamar even if he jumps on one of your productions, and you don't find out until the song is done, it doesn't matter your. That's going on my resume I don't care is Agley absolutely. You know 'cause I gotTA. You know I got A. I got to go myself. We are in America. But but I would say. It's interesting because. Man I'm so happy that I'm able to I got in to the to the industry in a very nonconventional because I came up like my first big break was chance rapper INVINCI- like that movement basically. Being one of the architects for that whole Chicago sound that they were calling it at the time. I in it. It was just us. Making records making this having fun making songs with these local artists who I just met because I. I'd never adding grow up in Chicago, just went out there and twenty twelve. Took a made a fateful decision to quit my job. Go out there only knew one person was working out his studio. In living at his studio and A VIC Mensa within that month, and then from there everything just blew up on the Internet, but so I got in a very unconventional way, but it's interesting. Because of the way I got in I. got into doing things I. WanNa, do them. So as I started to transition into the music industry tried to like. Continue that tradition. That we're working when I'm like a meeting with major labels, and it's funny. 'cause I would ask them. They would wanna get me in a in a session with one of the artists like I remember One of the NR'S AT A. Things vice president at the time. At Atlantic, records, He had told me. That after chance blew up and everything and I'm meeting these guys. He told me that. Hey, yeah, so we've got these artists. Atlantic that are looking for records like you know you mentioned like Wiz Kalifa. Bruno Mars. CEELO, green and I was like. He's in some beasts. Send US Americans and I was like. Can I get in the studio with them and like? You know makes them from scratch. That's how I did it with chances and you know and they're like. He was like so not about that news. I own like he told me basically. I gotta be like for real in the sense of like I got to have his already. On the billboard nor to do that. And I remember that being like very disappointing. For me. And also. That was like me. Discovering with the industry was all about it was not about music to me, and so I was like okay. but it's funny I I. I did anyway every time I. Did did it that way? Nothing ever got placed like a lot of those songs made. Those guys ended up using from Ireland album, but I ended up eventually getting things my way when j Cole at a hit me up directly because he had heard something I did. a beat. I did for one of his artists boss. and. he asked me to send visas like same spills I. Hey! You know I normally don't symbols I. Do my best work when I'm like in the studio with the artists like. Would it be possible if I can I get studio with you in this bill from scratch? And he was like hell. Ya and so he. flew me out. On his tour, and in from that point on I never had to. Ask, again you know what I mean like. It was kind of like a thing or if I ask no one ever said no again to me. It was always just a matter of scheduling. From that point. There's a lot of impact that the first thing I want people to know is in two thousand twelve year, folding shirts, department store, and a year later on acid rap, which is amazing. Number two I mean that's. That's that's a big bowl of inspiration for anybody who's listening, but number two I want to talk about growth because I know you make beats for artists. Jay was an example. You just brought up and there's been instances where you've created beats, and he didn't WanNA use it now. You can harp about how much work went into a beat, or you can start asking yourself ten questions why he doesn't want it. You can take it personally. You can become bitter, or you can understand. You can move on, and you can figure something out and I think that's the human side of things that people don't really talk about. Absolutely absolutely because I went to all of that. I went through taking it personally. And went through being bitter. Do all those things you know human. Before I arrived on like you said like. It's not any of those things. All those things are just. Made Up. You know reasons in my head, but at the same time it's not to be judged, either you know people have the have the right to do what they WANNA do. And at the same time all of those. Experiences did give me something. You know I got something out of all of those experiences whether people use my music or not, and that's the beauty of art. Because just the act of creating the art is valuable in itself. You know because it's exploration if you're doing it right. Then, you're exploring and you're exploring. You're never gonNA come away from any creative session with the same way that you were when you entered it. You always going to have learned something from that. experience, and that's one thing I can say about whenever I get in the studio. Whenever I do something I'm always, art gets back to me. I love writing and I love crafting songs because. It'll always just make me. It will always give give back to me in very concrete way sometimes, because like for example. I'm right. Okay, if I write a song that that makes me think about a certain. The macy think about I. Don't know like cars, motorcycles or something and I wanNA. Make this song. I WANNA paint this picture of. The this this motorcycle race or whatever? I don't know anything about motorcycles, so I have to go and spend time researching and the different parts of the motorcycle, and I start to put together a Word Bank Mussa cycling related terminology. And so that I can pull from that my song, and then by the end of the song I know all these. I've learned all these things about motorcycles sometimes been researching. Why did school make you hate writing where you're not able to have that same process? You know I think it was because they made us. Just do busy work worth more than anything it wasn't about like. Using your your writing ability to create a world or or to? To to do something that was that I found interesting. It was always about you know how to do book reports you had to write. They know they give you minimum requirement. Minimum Word Count Requirements. You know imposing that I mean that's like A. Lot of times it was very long sometimes. You don't have that much to say about something. You just have to just, but if you don't make that as many whereas it is supposed to be, you're GONNA get a bad grade. That's going to hurt you in life. And so as this, this is pressure. Pressure sometimes can be good, but I think you just was. It was no aim to. There's no direction that they were trying to. Trying to do. Is Get us through so that they can get their test scores. So they can get their keep their funding. So they so that we can go in. Graduated in work at you. Know some star anything suspecting. At McDonald's or something, they didn't give a damn. I enjoy piano, but once my parents signed me up for lessons, and then it became a chore then I hated it and I have two kids that are in elementary school, and it's a very restrictive environment and I wonder because I have two small kids, five and eight sometimes when we get in the car, I play hip hop, but it would, if I played an audio book. Maybe if I played where the wild things are where the sidewalk ends will do more. More for their creativity and imagination than just music. Maybe I'm every time they get in the car. Think about maybe I'm wasting time that I could utilize you know like I think both good is good, too. Because you know. Their kids are GONNA be absorbing. Thing you you expose them to, and that's what makes me think as an artist about the music that create you know like it's GonNa. Be absorbed no matter what it is is going to be absorbed and You can put anything out there and so I feel like why not? Why not put something out that wants absorb is going to contribute something positive to the person who absorbed it, and this is my way of like my naive goal changing the world through music. Because if you do that I feel like you can. You can change the world for for person one person at a time. With music. If you so choose to do that, you can especially in this days climate of our music because. Music is only about being a product now. Art is like the art world you know in selling these baskets for hundred ten million dollars like ridiculous amounts of money 'cause the art is not even about art anymore as about it being a commodity now. and seeing how much we can make off of it, but anyway so in that climate, it's actually radical to create art that is not for consumption capitalistic. Is Radical to Kinda like go against that and make it different, but I do think you missing your your kids. makes me it reminds me of why I think it's important that that the music has some high is made unto some higher purpose than us. You know that's what's so cool about sacred religious music folk music. Gospel Music is that those songs that music is made? In service to something greater to an ideal. You know it's transcendent. You Know I. Don't know if you've been in church but me I up going to church Black Christian churches, and there would be these things praise breaks. Where people will just dance, you know like in people. Falling out crying speaking in tongues does lose in. Just, dislike I've witnessed that actually witness there, right? And I always thought there was something wrong with me because I'm not falling on the floor with my eyes rolling back of my head. I didn't understand that as a kid to be honest, but I got older and I realize I understood it I started to look at I. Got I got this obsession with just watching those? Those price breaks on Youtube like for hours due to be sitting there, watching it, and I will be feeling what they finish the I I'm fascinated that these people are just regular working class people in releasing all the hidden. In life and they're and they're celebrating. A lot of them broke. A lot of got problems working class. The proletarian would call it, but they're in there celebrating. Like state like nobody's been such like you've never seen anybody celebrate beforehand. All celebrating is life essentially. They're celebrating their thankfulness for. Everything that they've been through in life in that guy has got them through in their life, and like they're celebrating something more transcendent than themselves and I thought that that was so. Amazing in that realization hit me. I mean we're already made a music like that anyway. Not Necessarily Gospel. I think there's just I think beyond. The religious aspect of it is that it's made for something higher. I like that because I think if we're just talking hip hop, it's strictly generational, because a because of the social distancing a lot of people watching these Timberland versus Swiss beats instagram battles, and it was trending the other day that these these young audiences think that Kanye is better than Quincy Jones, not because they're comparing catalogs, but I really don't think people understand the extent of Quincy Jones's re they really. Define the whole role of producer as we know it today like he's one of the main cast that did that like he's an Impresario. He did so much more than just music even. He started. I mean he helped start the grandma's. But. He also started all these put music publications like Spin Vibe and I think the same for a lot of people with you. I love his Z. stuff, but you don't realize is. He produced on the backstreet boys album. You know what I'm sayin'. And then and then he produced for the clips and then Jay Z.. Back to Britney Spears Quincy could do Michael Jackson and then produce on the boys in the hood soundtrack. You know over the next ten years. We could see cam on Amelia Island Song. You know it doesn't need to be in a box, you know. I grew up. You mentioned where the sidewalk in another play that in on cassette in the car. You know that will probably blow your kid's mind if you did want to. So he said Oh. Gary, those I don't know if they can handle it, but we'll see. It is Gary Yo but I I got less savings, so we can do anyone can i. don't know if I wanNA. Teach my zero about death and loss yet, but we'll we'll. If there's any way to for for them to learn it. I think the way shows oversight, does it? And what else I walk INS, such amazing metaphor like to me. It's like it's so deep. You know talking about the. The certainty that is you know the to me decide. What's I walk ends represents like. That path! Into Hill that leads you. To Heaven I think that's something that everybody has to go through an lifetime to go through. The reached the point where the sidewalk ends where everything you know. Is No more. To go through this. This. Gary Place dark unknown, which is what the is going to do right now incidentally. To me but In it's so amazing. He put that in this in a children's book. That concept and I think the thing about those intentions in those messages and all that I think a lot of them are subliminal. 'cause I wasn't thinking about that as a kid, but it subliminal because the subconscious mind like you have to trust in the fact that this causes mine is always picking up on all the symbolism of all of the subliminal messages, an all of the stuff that you put in there even when the conscious mind is not aware and. A lot of people are like afraid to go over people's heads. You know people are like. When it with when it comes to art like they're like well, I don't want over their head. I WanNa just be understood. And the thing is like you always understood even when you're not understood. Even when people don't know that they still understand, they get it. Yeah I. Think you do psychedelics and read Shel Silverstein your minds. Iowa just opened up bigger than you ever thought it would. All my goodness. Yeah, like looks to shut. It was like. A. A big part of my life I mean I don't like I'm not like one of those psycho nuts out there to. Do that all the time, but something that. Delegates -periences something that. has influenced my life. Hasn't to the unconscious. Some people that are that kind of believe in the universe kind of pushing a narrative on you, and if you pay attention, it can kinda work in your favor. Absolutely, absolutely, that's what symbolism is all about every the? Of course I have absolute. That book I love is about. It's like the guy that goes through the. Following through the story pretty much gets to the story by interpreting the symbolism in his life, and just leaves them right back to where we started yet you which is was I. Love that it's like. You know I started to develop an interest in. Sacred! Art recently I'm really into art in general, but you know the I realize guiding in Pajot. Who A has his youtube channel all about symbolism me, but he talks about The symbolism. Of Death and birth at are like happening simultaneously and a lot of religious art works in particular, the native seen. the birth of Jesus how he's shown like as as a baby in a major 'cause you know born in a manger. The major is is the is this little? This thing that animals eat food out of. But he was on that, but like the the way that the manger in this particular painting was painted, it was painted with ornaments on the side, and which is not typical of a manger, but it is typical of the casket, because major is supposed to double as a as a resting place as a coffin. So, but so in the fact that the the baby was born in this major, that also looks like a coffin. It symbolizes the simultaneous nature of death and birth, and how they're both the same and that's like. The end is the beginning. and. You know that's represented on the NFL. Commissioner's represented on the acid. The end is the beginning. I think that's that's why resonates I think that's. Probably why resonates with people so much like why? It just blew the fuck up? It's congruent with this basic truth that we see all the way in the Nativity scene. In all this religious work, it's the same basic truth to end is the beginning my album in the same way as called with a song called. The Moon becomes the day, so there's there's album though it's it's been leaked. It's been talked about for years and finally. GonNa come to fruition. This is the type of. Symbolism in detail the you want people to pay attention to the album comes out. You don't want people to just listen to Lucy's navy. The vinyl works where you want people to listen to beginning an end because that's the way the story needs to be told. Absolutely, it's it's Nathan deep listening, which is something that we will stop doing? And not only that, but there's been a stigma about jazz, being old and uptight and how? Game Changers are breaking these perceptions and reigniting in interest in jazz among younger audiences, and you have people like Ben Shepard adding layers to your work as well. Either In black holes Egypt. Claims. Yes been! Then Ben's several man incredible. You're right, and you know my thing is what I'm trying to do. Is something. That's pretty radical and making. Making a hip hop album is. That is designed the same way like. Kill people tend to think. Party. They think that it's deep listening. Anything. Deeper in there, but at the same time. Even, the old, his even the Golden Age of hip hop as much as I. Am inspired by my thing is I'm always trying to listen to things and just pool. What I can from it 'cause. My logic is. I exist you know, I'm here I have this gift of music, so I need to do something I need to take it to a new place. Were hasn't been before. That's my responsibility and I think it's interesting. 'cause it, it can be controversial sometimes for me to express this to my peers over the years. 'cause a lot of them, they insist. that. There's a greatest producer that they will never be better than or they'll never be able to transcend, or there's a greatest artist you know there's they insist that in this idea of a perfect music. and. the golden age of hip hop kind of represents that for hip hop for some people and I think I. Don't look at it that way I look at I listen to it and I love it and I and I'm trying to find how it could be better, but with that said that the biggest compliment that I can afford you is you could've took the t pain approach like hey, look. I sang the hook for Y'all now I've got a song album and I'm calling in favors. And I'm sure anyone you've collaborated with. They'd work with you, but you want this to be more about you. Rather than all star cast is going to this kind of twist that narrative taking ownership of this project and I love the absolutely, it's it's. Like And it's not just about me. but it's more so about me having the. The creative control over it can be what it's supposed to be because I think that the record, the music makes itself, and it uses us as an instrument me. Personally I'm trying to make I'm trying to direct people to some higher than me. You know like that's why I chose. I decided a long time ago. Against doing you know photographs, myself portrait of myself as the album. Are you know I? I decided against that because I because I realized that like. Doing that points back to me. And I don't WanNA point to me. You know a lot of podcast, Kinda talk about hey, you know. What studio equipment did you craft this album? But I think learning about you and your philosophy. In your thought, process is going to get more people interested in an album than anything else. That's on I'm kind of hoping I. Did that and I? Do want to end this podcast by saying. It really was my dream to have you do the soundtrack pixar soul coming out because I think you paired up with a Pixar movie is definitely. It's going to happen and I'm going to put them to the. Thank you, thank you. That's crazy. What is this soul? It's the one where they're finally featuring black people. It's about a jazz musician and he dies, and he comes back to try to figure out the meaning I guess it's that whole deeper thing. Let the trailer Yeah Yeah, okay. I'm GonNA definitely take that. Crazy says that the music's done by res-. Ner Atticus Ross see that doesn't make sense, are you going to nine inch? Nails will do that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. Why didn't you get terrace Martin or Robert Glass for been incredible? But you know that's what my album is. GROWN ASS. Kid To me is is an animated is the animated musical you're talking about is the animated musical that I always wanted to see as a kid in never saw. But it was an animated musical that is made. where the music is made. From my perspective. But not only that, but the story even is made from my perspective I. Think they wouldn't like pick even if they tried him they wanted to. They couldn't do this, they can't. They can't do this because they don't have the The perspective in a life experience necessary. To do. What I'm doing, we're GONNA. Ask You. To me is a musical is just the score to that musical as they don't have the resources to actually make it. At least not yet having music resources actually make the movie that goes with it, but it's literally animated musical. You can imagine Tamblyn and Randy Newman coming together and scoring a musical about a you know a kid. Who has to save music more mean. We've covered a lot of ground in our. Cam, you're a scholar and gentleman man. Thanks for being here. Thank you and same to you same to you. Man I love that that you created the space for us to have this conversation because I don't really get to talk about these things anyone and I'm in like you've you've doing something right because you created the space for it to happen? Yeah I love that and I would love to talk to US Mormon. Door's always open man always. Definitely come back in the fall and we can talk about the album. We will. We will. This is a guided meditation on parenting. 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Help US take back America go to our American rights. Dot Com brought to you by the American Media Council. Thanks for tuning into Classic Radio Theatre here on your favorite station, a Barrie Craig. Confidential investigator detective drama heard on NBC from October one. Thousand Nine hundred, thirty one to June of nineteen. Fifty five Berry Craig worked alone from his Manhattan Madison Avenue Office Rather and Mike is Contemporary Sam, spade and Philip Marlowe craighead very laid back personality, cutting against the popular hard boiled detective stereotype, gargling a William Argon Plays Berry Craig. Also starred in the same role in an unsuccessful. Pilot written and directed by Blake Ed works a few years earlier Garg and played a similar character in the program. Martin Kane private eye, another show which I don't have many shows of at all. Let's hear this episode of Very Craig confidential investigator has was originally broadcast June fourteenth nineteen fifty-three. William Goggin Stars as Barrie Craig confidential investigator. Buying yourself a murder and run into pretty big money, but after that you've got nothing to worry about. The only charge for the chair you're invited to sit in. Is Electrical. Broadcasting Presents William Goggin in another transcribed drama, mystery and adventure with America's number. One Detective Barrie Craig confidential investigator. Mattie Craig speaking. been a confidential investigative for long enough. You don't surprise easy anymore long. Man named Adolf that Hanjiang. Couple of hundred bucks to help his wife by a hat and you don't lift an eyebrow. You take the couple of hundred and you meet Mrs back the next morning at the Beck apartment. Eight gone to work, but you don't miss him. Very, great very great. You wait sure. I S I couldn't very well go shopping this could. Not, unless you wanted to hold up traffic. You wait where the lady changes into something that won't hold up traffic. He decide you're being overpaid. Given the chance you'd watch. Mrs Becky where there wasn't a Nicholas. On. Traffic will be safe now. Sure I don't know about myself though. I'll hold it. I'll take a look outside face. Alice. Street looks novel. Let's go. Right such a lovely day. But that's my car. Can't we walk the shots not very far. Well. All right, but striper this way. I. Don't know exactly what you think. You'll protecting me from I. don't either. Your husband wasn't very generous with his information. Well, then it was generous with his money though I'm trying to own it. Would you believe me if I told you I didn't need any protection? Joel, but I believe your husband harder though. He's my client. I always believe my clients hotting all right, you go ahead and protect me then. Where's the hat shop? Keep right on a weight slowdown for that shop window. Yes! She's always got wonderful things in it. Oh Mr Crane. Stopped the car at once, okay? At bathing suit. Red. Looks like a bathing suit. Can, you imagine it on me? Yeah! What do you think? It's going to be a hot summer. I've got to try it on. Come on. Whatever you saying. I love to go shopping with a man I. Don't get much of a chance. Let with your husband eight Oh. He hates shop. Money. But. Can I show you that bathing suit? You have in the window. Madame has magnificent `test. It is an important, too. I hope I. Have Your Mom says? Oh. Or to get bought only three such suits. GM's Yo. It satisfies the law. No, I wouldn't know. How important it satisfies the eye of the husband. If of course, the white he's so charming as Adam charm is exactly what a girl needs for sued like that Oh maybe not, but madame has it no. She has got to try this on when. These. But I will find. Comfortable I think. I must congratulate Monsieur. There are not many women who would even dare to think of wearing such a suit. He's of course ridiculously expensive. It is, but monsieur will not mind paying. At USC woke I guess the kind of deal he's got. He pays likes it already. Way Pretends to like it. Madame Flora wasn't quite sure how to take that. So she shrugged her shoulders Jami, lay the way the French do and shut up. Kaime went by and I got restless. Miss Your looks forward to seeing his wife in the SUTA. Sure has been looking forward to it for too long. She's been in their over fifteen minutes. Plenty women always keeps her husband waiting. No I wouldn't know about that. I still think she's been there a long time. Would you mind Harare each Messrs inflation is? Yeah, then I go to advise mme. What's the Meta. The door she looked. Let me. Locks automatically to magic. No, it is necessary that one moves the latch. has moved the latch. SPEC Mrs Back. Mandatory, we get back of it I'm going to break the door down. Explain later right now. I'm in a hurry. Back he's been sued. SCAT. Nobody home. Not even in the closet. But that I won't go. The back of the shop was stolen. Daro? Nobody. Home Area I do not understand me both. You always keep that window open. One cannot because of the deeds. That's open now. Yeah short dropped the alley outside. She could have managed. The Opinion Madam Fleas. That could be the opinion. I'm Oh. Come on. They bathing still yeah, shave left behind. Goes. Fixing that door up. It's going to cost you a few bucks here ten. What the bathing suit back in stock! I've got a feeling much as Beck isn't going to return for it. There was no occasion for yelling for the police. Suspect had a right to use the back exit. She wanted deal. And there's no law against making a confidential investigator. Look Foolish. I took my foolish look over the becks office and let 'em stare at it, but. You shouldn't have let her back. Yes, you had to be a couple of hundred bucks to go shopping with your wife or the next week or so. You told me you worried about of course and the first thing you do, slip out of your thing. I never had them on. You didn't bother telling me. My job was to act Jalen I. Assume do realize the only thing I could realize what the you figured. She was in some kind of danger. Well, maybe she is maybe someone knowing. It was no anyone could have known. She was going to stop it. Matt employees and use the dressing room now. Disappearance had to be our own idea. Rupture right. It's a little too early to call in the missing persons bureau. She's been gone only for an hour. But I know some of the boys downtown. They might stretch regulation for me. No. No I don't want. The police involved she. She may simply have returned home. She did it the hard way or if she didn't. Craig. I want you to find it. Meaning you don't really think she went home whatever she went, you find her. The police do that kind of thing a lot better than a one man out that like I don't care. Okay your money, but I'll need a few leads leads. Left Mr Back New York's allies place also it's finished with trains, planes and buses leaving it every few minutes. I've got to have some idea where she might be heading. And why are else? I'm like I understand, but we'll do it the highway. Who was your wife before you marry? Her name was Lila Lilo. Lilo lawn. It sounds phony. It was her professional name by profession. She Sang. She was a club singer. She last date before giving it all up for a home and kitties she. She was singing the Romani Rendezvous Romany rendezvous each party. Fine Before marriage, wife was a singer named Lana lawn singing at the Romney rendezvous. Now. You tell me the rest what rest? You know somebody listening in would think I was working against you instead of foil. I had to drag this information automobile why? There's nothing wrong with the girls singing in a nightclub. Nothing to explain it disappearing acted. You're Shrewd Creek. Isn't that why you hired me? I didn't think shrewdness would be necessary. Way You talk people might get the idea. You didn't want our file I do. Okay then, what's the rest of it? Before. Before Lila married me she. She was sort of engaged to Eddie myron. What does he do pitch for the dodgers? He owns the Romney. Keep going well. Myron was very angry with Lila. And myself I suppose. I've always afraid that he might. Do something. That's why you hired me. Yes. Myron didn't grab your wife nobody did. That flight out of the back window employers with both unscheduled, and strictly on this understand many. Maybe she decided money wasn't everything luckier, Craig. This is terribly difficult for me and I'm not helping. All right, I'll get started. Only one thing yes, suppose I find it and she likes it where she is. All Beck had that was stricken staff. Didn't look good on them, and I didn't waste time admiring I got out. To William Dargin starring Barry Craig in just a moment. 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Right Oh phone your nearest civil defence, centre or right to Ground Observer Corps Airforce Washington Twenty Five DC remember Pearl Harbor and joined the Ground Observer Corps. And I'll back to William Goggin starring as Barrie Craig confidential investigator. It was a little early for the Romney Rhonda when I got there. A handful of terrorists for fighting the and trying to believe they were living. Wasn't a gypsy around. Good evening said I have a splendid table. Save for the Iowa delegation due any minute I. Beg your pardon, Eddie Myron. Wouldn't be on public. You'll lead me to them. how Mr Myron is not inside that? Must have hurt alright he's not in. You've done your duty like a nice little headway. Now take me to him. Hey, wait a minute. Catholic Gut beginning to show what makes you so tough, clean living? Well, you didn't mention a name. I'll callous up me. Barry, Craig. How's that Craig? Private eye confidential investigative more syllables higher fees class. Let's go. Okay. Lila Whigham Lila. FRIEND OF YOURS MR, Craig right good. Forget I ask. Mr Martens offices down the Carta. You can see the door from here, thanks. Take the SAT I don't show. I'll take the set. Thanks! I get so tired of being hit on the head. Out Say it we'd both be shocked. You're a little obvious. Friend asked me to walk in front of you. Go back to the dirty Napkins I'm sure you'd up now. Okay. Craig's made another friend. What I forgot to knock I'm terribly sorry. The name's Craig. I also forgot to shut the door behind me. Excuse me Mr Myron. Wonder if there's a luck. Now I feel better. I'd hate to have anyone. Walk in of my back was turned to him. got a permit. That gun got any power to ask no. No that makes us even. Now puts me one ahead. I got the gun. Some days I can't keep score with a done this some fancy kind of hold them. You wouldn't keep your dough and here I wouldn't. But. You might know that very craig. Stand. Your remember I'm a confidential investigator, which makes it unlikely I'm after your Joe and maybe I haven't got as high in opinion of investigators. You had your misunderstanding me hurting my feelings. All I'm after as companionship Mine Lila. Lila You took too long on that one fella. Your Business has got something to do with Lila Lawn. The name's familiar so is the lady so what I'm looking for him. Know any better places? Try to beck residents I already have. Then we both don't know. I don't know a thing. You Do scintillating dialogue, but William Guardian made it work Berry Craig confidential investigator from sixty seven years ago. Today June fourteenth nineteen, fifty, three here on Classic Radio Theatre we'll have the news of that date sixty seven years ago, coming up next here on this Sunday edition of Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station. 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Thanks for tuning in on this Sunday edition of Plastic Radio Theater and episode the Berry Craig Confidential Investigator starring, William, Oregon has was originally broadcast. Sunday June fourteenth nineteen, fifty three in the newspapers of that Sunday. Sixty seven years ago. These were some of the headline. Republican. Senator tapped has thrown his weight behind the move within the Senate Appropriations Committee. Should slashes substantial amount perhaps more than a billion dollars off the Eisenhower Administration's five point four seven four billion dollar foreign aid request. This puts tapped at odds with the secretary of State John. Foster Dulles Mutual Security Director Harold, e, Stassen, and presumably with President Eisenhower himself. A showdown seemed imminent today between the UN Command and south. Korea's president. Syngman re in a race to end his opposition and get him in line ahead of the signing of a truce with the Communists at Panmunjom, but as developments pointed toward a quick armistice, the seventy eight year old South Korean leader, prior to new blast, eat announced the impending truce as a play, grit sellout and called for an immediate mutual security pact with the United States to placate his people. Meanwhile street demonstrations in career, raging through the fifth day in mounting opposition to a truce reached the point. Point yesterday where US soldiers fired carbines over the head of stone, throwing youths more than ten thousand demonstrated in Seoul, another ten thousand demonstrated in Poussin and from Bern Switzerland changed her mind yesterday, and decided to serve on the Korean armistice in prisoner of war commissions, regardless of whether South Korea accepts the terms hammered out by the communists and the United. Nations Command Divisional. Colonel Fritz Reiner retired sixty two appointed the leader, one hundred man military mission from this traditionally neutral country join missions from Sweden Poland and Czechoslovakia in supervising the armistice as soon as the armistice is signed. East Germans red boss Walter old brick. Faber and trusted agent in the stalin-era reportedly on the skids last night for opposing new soviet-backed efforts for unity of Germany, such action runs contrary current dv Soviet. Policy undertaken in east, Germany in the maneuverings of the post-stalin regime of Premier Georgy Malikov in Moscow. Leading West Berlin Socialist newspaper said Albright was denounced by his own, so we zone polit. Bureau. Is Now we're appeared yesterday to have won enough key votes to extend the excess profits tax, but it was uncertain whether the votes could ever be cast congressman. Read of New York Republican chairman, the House Ways and Means Committee assailed the Levian new, and gave no sign of calling the committee together for a showdown vote winding up two weeks, appearings read declared the administration failed to make a case for the vicious excess profits tax. He renewed his campaign and let the let me die as scheduled on June thirtieth and to reduce individual income taxes by ten percent at the same time. A Negro physician who was accepted for seven years as a white man and experience at four on the basis of the motion picture lost boundaries has been dropped effective July fifth as radiologist at Elliot Community, hospital in Keene, new, Hampshire Chester Kingsbury President of the hospital board of Trustees said the hospital was let go for neglect of duties and said was race did not enter into it. Kingsbury saying the only bone of contention was the amount of time Dr Albert, C Johnson devoted to hospital procedures, the doctor who came to the hospital in one, thousand, nine forty, said the board objected the amount of time he was devoting to private practice. He said he would not thank request for his resignation. While the Navy Postmaster General, Summer Field said yesterday, the post offices powerless to four Senator Joseph McCarthy, the Republican. Wisconsin to pay for mail. It said he sent free and should have paid for. Our Walter, the assistances summerfield in charge of public relations, said former Postmaster General Jesse M. Donaldson notified McCarthy last October. He should pay for male. He had set out under his congressional franking privileges. Speaking of Senator McCarthy the Republican Wisconsin said yesterday. The Justice Department should go all out to investigate those individuals guilty of treason or of sleeping at their posts of duty during the Korean War in a speech delivered for a prepared for delivery before the Wisconsin Republican convention Senator McCarthy said these individuals whom he did not name must be guilty of one or the other. In those some of the day's top new stories is reported in the newspapers Sunday June fourteenth nineteen fifty-three on your radio, Barrie Craig confidential investigator, which continues now on Classic Radio Theater. Thing you do. What makes you think that I tossed line along the name and your head way is? Try to toss this blackjack at. That wasn't very nice. Have he missed? How does he feel about it painful? I hope it doesn't show too badly. I wouldn't want the place to get a bad name. We're getting away from Lila, lawn. I haven't been near and months. That's why you're headway was so sensitive. I could pry loose from him. Okay. Maybe, I could use you on my side. Maybe even I might need you. Yeah I got a call from Lila early this morning. First Time, I'd heard from us and she got married must've been a surprise. A pleasant surprise, she wanted me to meet A. She was upset. Beck was running short of money. Well Beckett seems was running after another blood. That's what Lila said. Ask what she said. She wanted me to meet a rapid creek dam what's creek. I got a kind of Cunty jet there maybe an hour out of the city. She wanted you to meet her up there this morning. You agreed agreed. I drove up there. The carnage was van and Lila. No Hung around for maybe a couple of hours then I started thinking. Somebody was playing something. I made fast time back to time I worried. Boy Let's ahead with you. Tank with guys instructions. He'd been with me all day in the apartment. While you're breaking down and telling me all will partially, because boy lost his head when you mentioned lawn, that would make him a good witness and partially. Because I don't even know what I was being set up for. I'd like you to find out. I've already got a client. Bank yeah. What's your job for him finding his wife? That won't have to conflict with anything. I want you to do one client at the time. All I can handle, but if I find anything that might interest you. You'll hear from me. Or maybe from the police That was thrown into. Worry him. He was already worried, but maybe not about the right thing. Even at that he was ahead of. I didn't even know what the right things were. were. I checked with back. His wife was still out. That left me a choice I could do nothing. You could try the Creek Dale and According to Myron, that was a dead end, but he could be alive. Even the naming you're the sheriff me. I guess they tell you right. I'm very Craig Potential Investigative. New York. I saw that so I am figuring on setting up business and Greek Dan not exactly something else. I came up here to look through Eddie Myron cottage. Yeah! I thought I might find something there. I drove to the cottage before stopping here at up. The college wasn't very good shape. Somebody was careless with matches. Look at I, don't. Place was burned to the ground. When did it happens? Sheriff is half known I don't know the exact time started couldn't have been later than twelve or all any ideas about why it started, or who started it Figuring on maybe fine and in the cottage Michigan. Something, that might lead me to a lost lady. I saw. What my! For, namely, Lila Lawn perhaps recently Mrs. Adolf Beck. amp. Okay. have. You found it. In the cottage. Like I. Couldn't have identified. All you can tell us that she was blonde. Enough of the skin on her fingers left to get half dozen prints. No doubt about her dentist. She's Lila Lawn. Michigan's back. He was pretty watch yeah. Sure could fire, but said earlier the noon say. Thank. Dr Peabody. He's got no idea she was dead or not. GonNa find out. Over. You got ideas. I got I did. Names attached to them not yet. Wow. You'll get in touch with me if you get around to Tachin names. I'll get in touch with in goodbye, sheriff. Just minutes? Yeah? DACA peabody couldn't swear whether she was alive or not when the fire got to. Swear something. What's that? You had a couple of bullets in our law. Sheriff didn't have any expression on. His face could read when he let me have it. I held the post from. It couldn't think of anything else got out. I didn't mind a long drive back to the city. I needed it. Stayed Off Beck hadn't been lovely to look at. Shopping. Boil it's not boiled. We were finished for the night, not exactly. What do you want now? I've been up to Creek Dale. And I hope you got more out of the trip than I. Did this morning I got more. Tell me about. Your cottage is never going to be the same again termites. What time did you leave that this morning around twelve? Wait a minute. At sounds like somebody's checking alibis. Maybe somebody is. Alibis for what are some for one thing. I send. Your cottage was burned to the ground sometime today. Maybe you're Kelly with cigarettes I don't. Think you get Outta here? Okay, but nobody really worries about Austin in connection with a cheap summer cottage. What do they worry about? Lila lawn is never gonna be the same again either. The Conclusion Berry Craig confidential investigative from sixty seven years ago, June fourteenth nineteen fifty-three comes up in just three minutes on this Sunday edition of Classic Radio Theater. This weight L. Root for the Megamall magazine Goal Dot Com the megamall. Is Your one stop online shopping mall for great MAC and trump caps. Flags facemask coins, jewellery, and other products. They even have magic cowboy hats. 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Stream. If you miss a day, you don't have to Mrs Show now. The conclusion of Barrie Craig confidential investigators starring William Argon from sixty seven years ago. June fourteenth, Nineteen fifty-three. Them I didn't give him much of a chance to respond to that. I walked out. Ever give him an opportunity to figure out what his response would be. I had another job. I. Coming thanks! Well. It's very late. I hadn't noticed. I hope you've got something to report I. Have you found? Yeah, splendid word is Coming back to me. I don't think she's got any choice in the matter. I hope you didn't fully reason. She's got no choices because she's dead. Yeah. Shortest way sometimes the kind of She was shot, and then burned to death in the summer. Cottage belongs to Eddie Myron. She got back to him for awhile. It seems like. Maybe a shorter while she figured on how they arrested him not yet. They'll get around with once. They tighten up a few things. The way it goes? Your Wife Duck made this morning phone Myron and met him at cottage shortly before twelve. What happened and why right after that? We don't know for sure. We do know is that Myron headed back for the city sometime after twelve. And sometime after twelve is also when the cottage started burning. Then it's it's not really proof though no. That's why Myron not under arrest. He's a suspect. You could be one to me. You're joking. You've got a funny sense of. Motive. Another woman! According to myron anyway. But that doesn't matter. Because I saw you ten minutes after your white ducked out. I spent time with you. You couldn't have made it up to the cottage and time for the shooting in the burning. Not, after I left you, Oh, then you were joking. Just showing you how tricky these things can be. Anyway the main reason I came to tell you my jobs over. Wife's and. I walked out. He didn't see me to the dog. Loved to aided. The fact that she was dead, meant something. I got out into the street and started walking. Not Far. Somebody else's walking behind me. I stop. He stopped. This wasn't my idea of fun. But it didn't matter because still another guy showed up. He didn't notice either of it, but we noticed him I would after him. They hired man when after me? Must have made quite a procession. He turned off the pavement and walked into one of the small houses. They still keep in new. York City to prove at once upon a time. It was a nice place to live in I, gave them a few minutes and then. I waited for the doorbell to be answered. I scribbled a note on my card and dropping. Give the man following something come on. These. Police. Let's shut the door. I don't want. To, know impersonated the COP this. Mrs! Beck, who sounds? Like. Maybe you're embarrassed. By the way you duck me and Madame flurries this morning. I never did get to see how you looked in that red bathing suit. Terribly, late, it hasn't even begun to be laid Mrs Beck. I've got a problem bothering. According to the police in two fingerprints which never lie. This beck is dead I. You're not dead, are you? Know, which leads me to a very funny conclusion. You're not. Mrs Back. You don't think that conclusion is very funny I. Don't know what you want. What's your thing Ontario? Eddie Myron, said backwards, running after another blind. Your Blonde. So as Mrs back I figured he's still haven't. Maybe you were holding out for marriage. I would no I'm not asking. But back decided he'd have to get rid of his wife. Yoga or make a date with Eddie Marlin. She was scared I. Guess. So, we went to work. got. Hold of me hired me to go shopping with his wife. Got Hold of you got to pretend you worries wife until he could Duck Creek Deo kill his actual wife. Wait Myron left the cottage and discussed then set fire. Silly got back to the city by twelve. You were still alive according to what my testimony would have to be. Then you disappear. So I think becky couldn't have killed his wife. But he did. You prove it I'm not doing anything myron. Put himself at the scene of the murder at the time of the murder one. If. He'd killed the girl. He wouldn't have done that. Therefore the rest of his story has got to be believed. That leaves you. I followed back here. If you turned out to be someone I'd never met before fine. becks and the clear, but you're not. saw what else do I need killing Craig. They came out of the woodwork back. Why don't you introduce me to the lady who's going to hang with you? Excuse me they go hanging when. Stop It. I didn't know about his plans to kill Lila. He just told me it was a gag for a divorce a that's not bad any jury with men. This side of the on it go for that. Back it looks like you take it along, I don't take anything. I can take care of her. Only trouble is back. Getty Myron was worried about me. He trail meteoric place the trail both of us here. I dropped a note to him when I came in advised him to pick a good seat. He's outside that window. I'll take care of you. You. I wasn't lying. myron winged boy put. Police, thanked him. They tossed me a polite nod to. They didn't seem to mind finding the lost lady either. Headquarters would be a brighter place for a little while. I wouldn't be hanging around waiting for her to come out though. I don't like bathing suits. You're listening to William Goggin in another exciting transcribed mystery drama from the adventures of Barrie Craig confidential investigator. Story the Lost Lady was written by Liu Bits and there you have the announcer. Of course. Yes, that is Don Pardo June fourteenth, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, three Berry Craig, confidential investigator. Right around classic radio. Theater, would you do me a favor? 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This is classic radio, theater, the Great Gildersleeve. Bob Hope Show. transcribe direct from Hollywood. From Hollywood George Burns and Gracie Allen. Show now, here's your host Wyatt Cox. Marie Wilson became the prototypical dumb blonde, even though she wasn't very dominant. In Program, my friend Irma. We're going to go back to June fourteenth. Nineteen, Forty, eight for episode of that program as Al Takes Irma to see Harvey Erma Erma. Yes, Jane This is interesting. It says here that the desert and Death Valley is two hundred and seventy feet below sea level well, it can't be much of a desert with all atwater on top of. Well. That's what you can expect when you listen to my friend Irma. Ryan. have. Was! and. Run, this company Makers Swan soap the exclusive super. Green. Blend presents. Been Swan with my friend Irma starring Mary Wilson, his era and Kathy Lewis is Jane. A. Zodiac and find out what sign I was born under. Whether it was aries the Ram Capricorn the Golden Leo the. Lion Lo and behold I find out. I'm forrest. Says the footnote the Taurus. Girls get married very young. Far as I'm concerned now. I know why the sign is referred to as Taurus the bull. Believe me, I'm not getting any younger and every June. I look at the wedding announcements in the newspapers and you know something. My name is fair. And as far as Richard Rhinelanders concerned I've tried everything from pulling pedals off the days sleeping on a piece of wedding cake, all I ever got out of. It was a house full of ants. Not The only one who does a bit of moaning. Of June, even Irma's affected right now. She's looking at a picture of a June bride and the newspaper. The look on her face is a complete blank. Irma, yes, Jane! What's fascinating? Look what it says about this bride in the paper. When Miss Doors Alber walks down the aisle, she'll be wearing her great grandmothers lover around her neck. Let me, see this. Permit that's livelier. Got The other words right. Aren't. Just. Yeah lovely and lucky especially this one. Isn't she adorable? Yes, and our babies are cute to. Babies yes, an artist is drawn their pictures all around the bride's photograph. Those cupid's. If Richard, ask you marry him. Where would you go for the honeymoon? The nearest sanitarium for shock treatment. Albany, where would you like to spend your? Oh Allah has already made reservations. We're going to stay at eight to to wall. Street eight to to Wall Street or maize Mr. Clydes Office at eight to four. Yes, when we're on a honeymoon AL doesn't want me to be late for work. That's surprised me. Your wedding ring will probably have a built in alarm clock. Jane this is out. He's Irma just. Permits for you. Give a hint. It's the one person in the country who celebrates three hundred and sixty five holidays a year. Wow honey. And got a couple of free tickets to a show. How would you like to take Hark? I take anybody it will be you. Know Chicken. Hobby is a Broadway show. Would you go to the matinee this afternoon? Well chicken pick you up late and look chicken since we're going to the theater mingling with that classic crowd. That's going to stop. Sandwiches. By? O. Janice wonderful else. He need to see Harvey. We show is well. It's a comedy I haven't seen it yet. They say it's very good. It's about a rabbit called Harvey on. You can't see them no wonder else getting the tickets for nothing. Well, as long as I'm with Al, I don't care what I don't see. A wonderful. In June off Fellas seem wonderful includes my. Richie Practice saying I do, but so long that when I walked down the street, mumbling to myself, people say. Do you realize you're out of your mind and I say I do? Jane wouldn't be wonderful if the floor of us were married, live right next door to each other. Richard Coming home from. The office AL coming home from a hard bench in the park. But. It would be so nice for our children. The children thought of that I guess there would be. A Little Jane Little Irma would be asking little Jane. Questions all day. I won't have it. Jay Because I would want my daughter to be prematurely grey the age of four. You're just kidding Jane. Isn't that wonderful daydream like this? He have our judge. Propose by the wedding. Ring myself by your own wedding away all. No, you wouldn't. That's one thing I. Will you do so now? You may have to work after you're married, but you'RE GONNA start out like lady. G You know I can't wait to go to the theater. What did you say Harvey was about about a man with drink and imagine he sees rabbits. Me Professionally. My little dishes, one food for thought the other food for squirrels. Little. Joke I picked up in the. Morning. I! Came down here to get too little information is the word witch an adverb preposition well the word, which is a Pronoun Tori, maybe you. How do you WANNA use it. The Mrs O'reilly? You out an old rich. Besser. Why don't you stop teasing for Mrs Riley after all? She's the kind of person who likes to live and left. The things she lets live in my room. Why why don't you forget? Mrs? O'Reilly as landlady just think of her as a woman. But they had to stop it either way I. Find Myself Hating my own mother. What the older stuff for! Your Matt. Harvey. Yes Grigson imagine he sees man. Yes and pink psychiatrists. Come in. I love girls. They, professor. Mrs Iraq. No, please don't get excited Mrs. Set you girls. Look at you, think of a man who takes to the playground in the at night. Let's go up and down on a seesaw for two hours. I think that's very romantic. Well, that's what I thought. I got off and found a tighted the other end the board. I'm sorry Mrs Alley. Wasted by use of the. Do you think after how nice to me I could play a dirty trick like that done. Mr Riley. What did you do for? Just a few little intimate touches for his room. You know the leak in my bathroom pipe extent. Around And you know that old fashioned gas though I got the one the gas escaping from or she gain you a new stove. She gave me a gas mask. Well. This is all very touching. Will be here any minute. You better be ready to go all right Jane? Who Do you? Ask taking me to the theater to see. Oh. It's been such a long time since I've been to see A. Little Hot. To forget all that excitement and shooting you see. She was sitting right next to Mr, Lincoln. Ship. Owner I almost got came here for. Lips got called. The office and she wanted me to tell you the. Back again at one, o'clock Komo, Mrs, O'Reilly I'll take you to the movie around the corner. The showing do pictures today, the emperor volts, and the story of Your Life So, evil my love. Girls. Go to Lima Pakistan it'd be around that obnoxious girlfriend of yours calls. O. J. Why can't you get along with Amber Irma honey I I know she's one of your best friends, but tell me. Why is it the minute she gets here? She has to take off her shoes strut around barefooted. I would mind if for feet were shapely. The believe me if they had is each one of them could pass bearskin rug. That's not ambitious. Fault for her feet hurt her. You see she's employed in a brewery. She's a barrel kicker. Kicker yeah, she walks around the brewery barrels, seeing which ones are empty. Listen to those stories. She makes your friend, amber lip Scottish, just a clumsy lazy with a temper and I. Don't want anything to do this. Yes amber this is Jane. He WanNa talk to. What Why do I have to answer the phone? I happened to live here. Why do I have to live why? Give it to me Jane Hello. Amber, this is. How am I going to keep our living with someone beneath Me James Love Beneath Mitch lead right here in the same room. Thanks wrong. What is it amber? You sound excited. You can't tell me that you'll be right over. All right. I will leave goodbye. I wonder what she's so excited about. I don't know honey personally I. don't want to have anything to do with far as I've been searched. He's the car. Sis. Vocal person in the world. Never heard sounds so thrilled I. wonder what it can be probably wrestling gorgeous George next week. COMMU NOW Jane Hi Chicken. Hello L. Honey. Sorry, I'm late. Chicken was trying to interest a banker in my latest deal. Another one of your deals. When is it this time putting windows and cigar boxes selling for television sets. Nothing so. This is a special device to eliminate backseat driver. How do you do that ASS imple-? The car has to exhaust pipes. One of them goes into the back seat. Chicken, take my own off to the matinee. Can't go go. Why not well Ambra live Scottish coming over to discuss something important and and I promised I. be here chicken. After all the trouble I went to to get these tickets I'm sorry how such a shame to waste could see. Cain yes Jane in the past. You and I and had many differences, but this could cost based on heredity. Well in your family to be ambitious is considered the virtue. Family, it has come to be looked upon as Z. Outside of this slight difference Jane. Had And I've always hoped. It was sort of Youtube. Why are you driving at out? Well? I was wondering if you'd like to go. Outside of chicken, there is no one I would rather take. Ally? I never had anything personal against you and send you. Put it this way and it Burma WanNa Jack. Why won't you know what they say? Share the well. Well, what do you say Jane? Be Delighted. Let. Let me tell you I may not be able to take your long pocket. You like your boyfriend Richard Does, but believe me on our way to get a hot dog at the waterfront. We will cross pocket. This is the living history the by any. Yes, along chicken. When we get back, we'll tell you the whole plot. You don't have to have I trust you. 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Go to our American rights dot com brought to you by the American Media Council. An outstanding cast on my friend, Irma, not only Marie Wilson, but Kathy Lewis's Jane John Brown as Al Marie Wilson Boyfriend and you know John Brown who also played Digby Odell? Vo Friendly Undertaker also Hans. Conrad is Professor Pumpkin and Glory Gordon Portraying. The landlady a fun show more of my friend. Irma from June fourteenth, nineteen, Forty, eight here on Classic Radio, theatre. Here that Lady's The music for the stance of a lovely. And the violins whispering a beauty. Swan has that. That's important Swan Hill does give you something. No other so can offer. Swan differs from other sources. You know it does because you can feel the difference just by running your fingers over a cake and Swan. You can feel that extra smoothness. The direct result of Swan Super Dream Land and One term super clean. Feel that Rich Bill Away Swan. 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I don't like to interrupt your dreams, but I paid a dollar twenty tax on those free tickets of yours. I like to have you seen the show Sarah. Jane just can't keep away. Don't Dame's on the show. Last. You have chorus girls look Jane as much as I love chicken, I am still normal man. I'm prefer watching course an animal. I got the feeling that once. You've seen one rabid. You've seen him all. Talk No do by all means. Allows here to your roommate out, yeah! That's good I can't stand that snooty girl. You mind if I take my shoes off, it helps me to speak freely. Amber hope you have something important county because I passed up going to the theater with how have I got something important? You know my boyfriend Gerald the Jackie O amber. Don't tell you finally hooked him hype. Wound is the word. I got him clean, dressed and on ice or get married this afternoon. After the seventh race. Amber! I didn't know what to say out. To happy all thanks. Everyone's been surprised at the track. They gave a party for Gerald and me. They put us in the winner's circle draft horse horseshoe flowers around my neck and weighed me in. Sentimental. Tell me how you come along with al every time I I ask what's holding up our wedding? He says Magnon Ah. That Spanish for money. To tell me I went to school. On. Honey. Oh Hi Hello Hey. You Austin await, didn't you? Drive. To isn't easy were. Wait until you hear the wonderful news ambush getting married this afternoon world congratulations. was nothing he knew he'd have to do it sooner or later. Right crippling. What time does a wedding cake place at five o'clock at my apartment, and that's why I dropped by. You GotTa, do me a favor. Certainly ever. What is it well? I'm going to be tied up with the makers until four thirty so I wondered. If you take this fifty dollars with this slip to case, jewelry store and pick up my wedding ring. Glad to do you want us to come to the wedding? We'll of course I do honey. You're my friend and I don't care what kind of a wedding present to bring me just so long as united of it. We'll get the ring for you. Shall I bring Jane along to know thanks? They'll be enough crumbs around after we cut the wedding cake. Thought, we should try to understand jayme underneath it all. She's a wonderful person. That's where I'd like to see your underneath it all. Not Getting my way too long honey. Let's see what happens here. This is getting interesting June. Fourteenth thousand, nine, hundred, forty, eight, my friend Irma here on Classic Radio Theater. Don't forget if you miss a day. You don't have to miss a show. Just go to my web page over it. Classic Radio Dot Stream back in a moment. SEATTLE! Introducing the her journey around, the world started in are overflowing bathroom sink policy from American family insurance insure carefully dream fearlessly. Get a quote, find an. Visit AMFAM DOT COM for homeowners policy information. 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Understand your position goodbye noble. I look out. Forget about getting bargains. Let's just go out and get a wedding present fram version. Take Long Slip Grandma's ring. No, we might lose it. Leave it on the table until we come back. Chicken ti which we were getting married like Amber Gerald. Chicken oh Allah, if you if you knew how dream the day went, I'll hold our Senate my arms. Chicken. How do you know it'll be a boy? Oh. You don't know about those things you're so naive. I wrote to the stark. Fast. Food that's too bad I. wanted to tell him that I like the way she so the button on my shirt, but that I can't get the shirt off the table because you're so shirt, the. Well! You know this is Joan and Irma is very much. Love struck that before I left for the theater Emma was in such a romantic mood that she said how would marry her. She'd by the ring herself well, lots of people are desperate to get marriage. Amy Take Mrs O'Reilly she says I will marry her. She will have her face lifting. But I'm terrified that the thought of what they might find underneath. I know that are just exaggerating and she wouldn't. Oh my goodness. What's on the table? There? Kay Jewelers one wedding ring balanced fifty dollars. No, she said she would, and now she's done it. She's buying her own wedding ring. Show album area. Nature was very cruel to her gave us such a big heart. There was nothing left to put in her head. Well not going to get away with. This works too hard for her money to go spending it on a wedding. Heavens without wants to marry. Let him by the raid. Bank deposit this money right back in her account, but the bank calls no well I'll put it in the night depository professor. I'll see you later. This'll teach your lesson. Nobody here. How can you better get dressed? If you WANNA get in time, don't forget. We gotta pick up Amas ring all right now. For the ring is gone can meet. You. Can I come in with you. Gene, guess what happened I know what happened that money? You're going to spend on a wedding ring for yourself so this low ver could marry. You is back in the bank where it belongs. In the bank. And the bank is closed close. Why are you to acting as though someone had just gotten killed? We said that Jane. Sounds like a pretty good ringside. Description of what's GonNa. Happen to you. To me. What are you talking about Jane? That fifty bucks belongs to amp ellipse cut. It was for her weaponry. If her wedding is called off on account of your meddling, she may hit the ceiling. It'll be, would you? Know what am I GONNA do? I don't WanNa get involved terrible monster. Owe! If I can only get fifty dollars, you could get the ring. Let me see I, think I've got four dollars you're. How much have you got? What he twenty eight thirty to forty one dollar. mind. What have you got? going. Know Mrs Riley? Your Voice. She misses a rally. Have you got fifty dollars? You should have asked me this morning before I went to the beauty parlor. Spent all that money and the beauty parlor. It big I have to is I don't. Won't work. Come me. Well. I guess this is. Kids might as well get ready to face. Now it's a matter of time nothing more. On and I'm just sitting here. Waiting for the inevitable. Alanon has been very solicitous keeps humming and singing Jeremy. The. Thinking is a little worse than anything. Amber could do me. Ask for Allah's really concerned. He keeps glancing through my papers to make sure all my insurance policies are paid up. After five o'clock, and by now ambers either married without a ring on our way over here with murder in her heart. Oh. If only I hadn't put the money in the bank. By Jane Coming. Now look for. Let me you don't have explain, but that's the kind of person you are. What you don't have to talk, you just see those same thing. Dot Nacho enough with the ring. You didn't want me to be married. Now. Hold it amber. You stay out of this nosy. I'm saying is what makes you still clever psyche psyche? How did you know Gerald was already married to somebody else? I mean. You stay out of this. I'm so glad you didn't show up. An embarrassment and I'm so glad you didn't buy the ring if I told you about the money Jerrell gives me What what about the money? You? My worst enemy should try to pass that money it's of. Say That what you girlfriend in Lyon on the floor. I don't know. Jane I wish you would go to sleep when we have company. This is one time when I know how Irma Spiel all the time. Why because I have pulled the Boehner of Boehner's. Fortunately I got to the bank in the morning early to stop the counterfeit deposit and everything's taken care of, but it just can't stand being a position where Irma feels. She sympathized with me back I just go crazy. When says Oh Jane? Don't feel so badly about making a mistake. Sometimes I even say some things that aren't exactly brilliant. 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I'll Friday lomb discovered that the seat had been robbed, and as we look in on the old fellows today we find Squire skimp on the circus lag serves as their office and headquarters, talking to Lome from narrow conversation. The disappearance of the money is still a mystery. Listen. Or Rome dishes anxious to find stolen money as you are I. Don't want you thinkin entre. And nobody all I know is i. put the money in the Thursday night and you're standing right here. Friday. When I went to get it out and it was gone where yes, that's right with. That is no sign. That I took Heinsohn you did I'm just saying that me and you and atvs, the only ones that knows combination of that save and you know me and avenue ain't GonNa steal nothing from ourselves that. Area just the reason I'm anxious to get. This thing cleared up. Yeah me, too. You Abner Been Asleep and right here in a wagon wagonload. If I had to call in air, you surely would have known. Yeah. That's right and I don't know the lock on nine save ain't been tampered with tall, so whoever got the money bound to note the combination? Is it sure looks like it? Where did you get that faith on? He'd come with the circus when we taken it over. You ever seen a species character hanging around the wagon here in the last few days. I've known just us is all I. Mean not no strangers who don't know where what about federick. What about him where he hangs out around the wagon here more. Oh, it, amy. Cedric I know square he's is honest, as is on. What young away! heasley influence on somebody else Mayer to put him up to it, you know. I please centric don't even know the combination save. He couldn't open it if he wanted to. Well, he's been hanging around here quite a lot long and seeing you open it. He might a memorize that combination. Cedric memorize a combination. He Ain't through working on the twinkle twinkle little star yet. Oh Long East where I just assumed Taylor Hendrick quite the combination news. He couldn't recollect it long enough to get back here and things. No ways I'm trying to think of all the possibilities you WANNA. Talk to him. Ask him about it, but I know it ain't him. He has a hard enough time recollecting what day the entities we're on a case like this. Just about half to consider everybody guilty. You Reagan so I. Know About it never took it away. Didn't leave that what? I can't understand how anybody could have come in here and broke in this wagon an open to say even. Without Waking in one or the other of us up well, of course it might have been during the daytime Rahm. There is that possibility you know we always keep the wagon locked up less than mere abner ones right here with it or you sure about you either that or I leave somebody here with into watching firming. I know Friday morning. I was gone for a few minutes, left the north brother here to keep an eye on save. Laura's brother. Also careful about it. Here, on over here that mourns. They wanted to see me round back the big top right quick, so I got him to stay here away from. Our and gone more than minutes. No way where now. We're getting somewhere. What do you mean, square? At Villa ahead of pretty shifty I owning snow late I manage your fixing accused him. You're getting off on the wrong track. Here's what makes you thankful goals. In the first place, the north brother wouldn't know more think a stealing in would've fly and second and third blazey. Don't even know the combination to the safe, and we know that whoever took the money didn't know it. Folks like it let out all right. Of course it does flom. Are you sure you put the money into faith third tonight I? Sure I put it in. Wait a minute. You Ain't. No, why I thought to motto hit the money. Don't place also forgot about it? I've got proof that I put the money in the safe right after the show closed Thursday night. Got Proved right after the show is over the, nor was complaining about being hungry and I told her I'd take her over the town there Envir- somebody, but we come by the wagon here for me to put the money up I on account of didn't WanNa. Be Packing that much cash on me. And Did she wait out? Tried voyage. No, sir, she said right down that Sharon, seeing the open the safe and put the money in that shoebox, nine groove at her sold, or in here when you put them on up yes, or not improved by where loam wouldn't. It have been mighty easy for her to watch you work? The combination and income come back here now. Wait just a minute score. Discover rod where you're at. Don't you? Start using that little woman I haven't anything to do with it. Areas is fine, a little woman who's ever growed breath where I'm not saying that she did, it may just seems to me. Her name out of this I can tell you right now. She never had a thing to do with it. All right. Loma Germany, but we feel about it Dole. Right would leave directly the way I feel about it every time. Anybody's name has been brought up. You've tried to pint species Adam. I'm getting good entire. What's going on in here? Come on in abner about time to open up and take it off as long as a big crowd gather around the front of the tent there. Expect I better? Get out there and make my field on June. I'll be around their quickest. I get the money out of the safe for chain. Overhead and get the crowd gathered all all right. Hey, what's the matter? are down like he's arguing about something else now. He's trying to today's neuro was in one to taking that money out of the save well. What's as reason for saying? She done it who he's the only one that knows the combination outside I mean you and he's got a key to the wagon and more likely. He's reason. Maybe it's old, but I still don't think it was Hamlin. What got me more vicious than ever I've been cross-examining here SORTA and everybody's name that was rung up. He tried to make me think they was the ones that done it well. Maybe he would get interested in trying to help. But I've been trying cases in my gestures as a Peace Corps for failure years now they won't mind oceans on it when you see a better fighting these fingered everybody else using them. You Better Watch out for him. All. squires drawn lay. There's on everybody else's doorstep set and he's on. Cues nor very addy's. Swedish little moment you can't even force her to take a little favor. Hardly he can't. Just a shame that a pretty little thing like her has to go out and reform in front. All people in that were out costumer hers shadow with. It looks all right to me. All the spangles is getting rusty. things the shorter, but she'd never seen anything about getting a new one. Oh, I'm sure she would well, she wouldn't. I had to argue with her ten or fifteen minutes for CD. Her major men's. She wrote down. What for for a new costume, I watch her. She here. He's going to be surprised when she sees a new and ordered for. Yes, you more likely be over overcame. Just how much did this new costume cost? Not. Much Eh on recollect right now sixty dollars ninety dollars. How much did it cost alone I? told you I don't regret. Is Now the summers in that neighborhood? Though let's up pretty fancy neighborhood. Did you tell us more about this? No I shoulda. Here's business side. It's good for the show more of a invest. You might say yeah. He's might well anyway I don't like him using somebody likes a neuro. Taking that money and I told him so to. You said he's accused of everybody. Who else did he mention? Well, you just fame. Excuse me there once. More. No of is your i. put the money in. There already got up right then. Wait a minute. Hey, cedric, come here a minute. I WanNa talk to Sadri Squire was using him to. Watch, he never done it on. My course, not he don't even know the combination on their say. Well. Where were you going to drink? Why. I was gone whole, carton. No place I don't even know who just walking around shorter. Come on down. Aware standing I wanNA have a little talk with you this. What are you WanNa talk about? Cedric you might not have noticed, but there was money took out of the safe here either Thursday night or Friday or yes, ma'am. I note about that four hundred thirty dollars and seventy cents. Yeah, that's right. That's what it was. Yeah, you don't know who took it or nothing like that. will or he don't long. You know never took it noting reason you didn't myself. Saturday but there's another fellow around here that sorta accused and you have it. I wanted to cross them and use those. I proved him that. You don't know nothing about it. Small. Were you just tell us that cedric don't know nothing about it long, and you'd better get on. An Front to folks will be wanting to buy tickets on can't get into the show. To get my tickets and change together here. Run around front there abner entails choir to keep these going to get to. Hurry up now. Yeah I will. See now. Let's see if again recollect the combination. SORTA slipped my mind. Starts here at no, I know that there's bomb and around the right, the seventy and back to. Back, to back the twenty, yeah, twenty, in fact, a forty five recollect. And in. The seventy again. Yeah, that's right seventy. And that order over. Yeah got it. Take about twenty dollars per to wait a minute here, which motorists alone it's gone. It's gone again. Put Two hundred and eleven dollars in here last night. Somebody's robbed this safe again. Now wait a minute. It appears that cedric has a better memory than some people give him credit for. A. Air Long ways from the Johnnym down store right now, June fourteenth, nineteen, forty, eight lum, and Abner here on Classic Radio Theatre Visit Our web page classic radio. Dot Stream. If you miss a day on this station, you don't have to miss a program. 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This story you're about to hear is true. Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent dragnet. This is classic Radio Theatre Guy. I was a communist. Light so. Everybody. Now. Here's your host why it talks. We go back to tune fourteenth nineteen fifty five. Jack Webb Ben. Alexander starring in dragnet the Big Fall Guy. Own! Ladies and gentlemen. or about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned robbery detail. The owner of a small delicatessen reports that he's been rob, he says the thief casually walked out of his store and disappeared. Your job find him. Dragnet the DOCUMENTA drama of an actual crime. For the next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department. You will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police fires. From beginning to end from crime to punishment, dragnet is the story of your police force in action. Sunday! October ninth! It was overcast in Los Angeles. We're working the day. Watch out of robbery detail. My partner's Frank Smith, the Boston tickets. That Brown my name's Friday was on my way back from communications. It was three forty eight pm when I got the room twenty seven eight. Robbery. Robbery Friday. It is second. Pan. I go ahead, please. All right I haven't what happened. How long ago! All right right away, thank you. Guy came into a delicatessen run. Sunset took out a pretty big order. Sack full of money. Four fifteen pm Franken to small combination delicatessen grocery on the corner of sunset third, the owner of the store and Mr Paul Klee told us that the robbery had taken place approximately twenty minutes earlier. He said that the patrol car officer who had answered his call at left to make an immediate search for the suspect Gabriel real description I did yesterday you said that kept my wits about me all the time, young. Story I was studying him didn't let him catch on of course, but I was making mental. Note I wonder if you tell us just what happened Mr Capable. How's that? We'd like to hear about the robbery. Right from the beginning Oh checking up on me sir. Making sure I you. The same story I gave another cop on. So that's not the idea. I told him everything that wants to. We like here to. That's you ain't GonNa hear nothing different one he did. What would you tell US anyway? Well, if that's how you want it, is she? A CROOK? Fellow came walking into my store biggest life. Begun I was about twenty minutes ago wasn't who might be twenty one or two, but now depends on. How long been talking to me? Yes, what do you say when he came out? Bandit fellow? That's nothing. Nothing. That's what he said not a single solitary word I say. Even open his mouth just handed me an envelope. Yeah! Seal it was sealed up shop. Go ahead struck me as being kind of peculiar. What do you mean well? Lots of my customers being list of things as opposed to buy it. Don't know enveloped icing. My instinct show was right wasn't the grocery list as far from it presents note inside hand-printed is saying. Well. No one said. That would be nice Yasser. Take all of the money out of the cash register put, but the paper bag and hand it over. That wasn't all you want to hear the rest. If you would please, don't do any talking. Don't try to stop me. If you do I'll give you. The end of it. Do you still have this note Mr Klay? Pool idlewild Ashley and all the register. What we please well, that's up to you I guess. Other cops said I wasn't a handed on the of fingerprints. Try to be careful with it, so he might take. No chances destroy invaluable evidence. Well had it right the. Word for Word S. are you sure did after you read this? Note what to do Clay Pu? I Don just what a chance to give him the money from the registered. That's right for the paper bag and number eight, one, thousand, eight, hundred that that was the size of the bank. How much money did you give them? All the laws unable to fifty dollars most of it in bill. Most I'd say couple of Tansu four or five someones respites change right. What happened next fellow took the bank and the grid and walked out. Look real pleased with himself. Did you see where he went? Left the store guests there I mean after that turned down the street who get into a car I didn't see you didn't try to follow him. NOPE I didn't aim to stick out. My neck non figured that was up to you. Fellow. That's right mcclay pool enough. The Robert had a gun most. Did you see Haute? But that said he'd kill me if I gave them any trouble, yes. must've had a gun. If aimed to kill me, stands to reason yesterday. was there anybody else in here when he came in? Just me I don't do much business time noon and not on Sunday. Had you ever seen this man before. No, not directly I wonder if you could describe them for sure, I told you I give him a real good ones hold. Yes, Sir I always young fellow right around twenty I'd say Husky about five ten. Maybe ways one seventy. Not Attach understand you just Husky. What about his coloring well? I'm coming to that. Brown hair medium. Brown Kinda Gray is medium, complexion, remarks, scars know. How was he dressed? Pants DOT colored surge more than likely losers, a looked like it was part of a suit. Couldn't see shirt. They had on a sweater yellowish with of them. Callers choke show. What's Eh if it's all around your neck? Like sold turtleneck sweater? What was that what you call yesterday? Well. That's right good name. That's just what it looks like. Turtle poke nodded his neck. Anything else you can tell us about this man. What do we got in mind? Anything that would help us identify well could real funny almost like he didn't know what he was doing. Kind of look at me funny to. Know How to put it into words exactly. One of command the City Hall for a few minutes. Michigan Label City Hall Yeah, so we like a mugshot saving and make an indication force well, that'd mean closing the store or we'll take very long. Well Oh, I guess, it will help. Catch this. Follow appreciate appreciated. Excuse me Sir. Labels out. I'll that? Who? Friday that's for US A. Oh a are. Thank you. This Friday. That's right. How long ago. Yeah I got. Well! We won't need you. Downtown. Just yet will change your mind. Yes, you're. What's that flower shop will run phone. Yeah, sounds like the same guy. Franken I, told Mr Klay. We check with them later we'll have. The delicatessen drove out to the bringer floor shop on Fountain and Selma Four Forty Two, pm we. The victim is Norma Devereaux. She seemed to be extremely agitated. She told us that a man had walked into the store about four thirty, and gave her a sealed envelope. She showed us the note the envelope, but contained and appear to be a duplicate of an old Mr Clayton will have been given this man saying I think to Mistero. I don't remember I. Don't think so. Did you say anything to him? I was too scared how much money to take. I gave him all. It was everything the register. Honestly, but about. How much would you say? I'm not sure you see I. don't work. I was just helping out. The store belongs to my sister and brother-in-law. To take their children for a ride this afternoon, so I said I'd look to shop. Never should have offered I might have known something like this would happen I'd had a funny feeling all day long. It's a bad week for me anyway this whole week. According to my horoscope. and. You don't have any idea. How much money was stolen. Mistero I don't think it was very much a few bills and some coins. Do you happen to know what day this is. The date I mean this is the mind and I I might have known. She said to be especially careful on the ninth and the eleventh white and I pay more attention to that last reading. It certainly cost me enough. You notice where this man went when he left the shot. Did you notice where he went all? I didn't pay any attention. I was just so relieved that he was gone. You described before us, please. Well! I'm trying to think. It just comes up a blank face everything about him I was he dressed? Terribly. Sorry I just can't remember we can help you. Was He wearing a kotor sweater. That's right a sweater I. Remember the sweater. Wasn't. Lightish I think I'm not sure. What kind of a sweater would you call it? Just a sweater I guess how about his hair? Is. At several. Well. There's one thing I don't know whether it would do any good or not. As man I feel like such a fool, not being able to remember where it was or when, but I'm almost certain about. That I've seen him before. Franken I continued to question the victims. She insisted that she had met her seen the suspect sometime before the crime, but she was unable to recall the circumstances. Five! Thirty API, we drove both victims down to the city hall and ask them to go through the mud books for the purpose of identifying the suspect. In, eastern other books, yes, ma'am. Thank. You're sure have enough of them. Only think for what. I signed before. I get you folks from coffee. House like a right good idea about you. Would you like some coffee to? Deborah that's. That's IT I. Remember now his face everything about him. It's the same man I'm positive. It was when you mentioned coffee. That's what brought it back to me Ma'am I just. Wasn't you saw this man? Let's see. Last week when I went shopping for a new co Tuesday. Yes, that's when it was Tuesday I was having lunch the fairway cafeteria in Hollywood well. It was crowded and sitting alone. He came by and ask if he could use the same table gland I nodded, and he sat down. I didn't pay any attention to him. Not really I just went on and finished my lunch. He was still eating when I left anything else. You can tell us about him I. Think. He had on the same coast. He was wearing today the sweater anyway. I remember the sweater real plane now. This was the same manner Raja Oh. Yes, I know why, sir, that'll help wanted my remembering where I saw I'm. I'll bet. He eats there all the time at that same cafeterias man. We'll check on that. Oh, he does I feel certain of it. You'll see surged. It was think that made me go under that restaurant, and it was fate that made him sit at my table. Was all part of a big plan meeting like that and then him robbing me. Today was part of a big plan so that you could catch him. Yes, that's right and you will catch him. Don't you worry about that? You'll catch. Him Fades against him well. It makes us even than what we. Now that you remember seeing suspect performance devereaux confirmed Paul Klee booze description. We asked the victims to continue going through the mud books. They weren't able to come up with an identification. Sixty one PM Franken I drove him home and we went off duty. Next Day October tenth ten five Am. We interviewed the day cashiers at the fairway cafeteria? They couldn't recall any specific customer who answered the suspect's description? Levin Forty Six am. We went back to the office? Robbery Friday. Well thanks anyway. Sloan! Says, he can't give us. A lead from those notes were printed. About nearly nights to them with me where you WANNA go. I don't care how much you the main difference to me. We'll suggests them. I told you doesn't mean difference. I don't know why it always has to be up to me. where, we why don't you decide once in a while all right fine? Let's go to that new Chinese place on Broadway for launch. Will. Why not you don't want Chinese food for lunch I don't. What do you got in mind? Mine. And end up making the choice. Sure is a problem, isn't it? 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Who told you that? Tony, who stony. That's all I know him by Stony. Collecting money for him. And you expect to buy that, too, don't you? Know I guess. Why don't you try giving us the truth? When look now may I'm not the brightest guy in the world, if I was I wouldn't in this mess. Come to you and my own accord deny all. Maybe you got scared. Maybe figure, go easier with you gave yourself up is not. A I can't blame him for thinking that. Show was dumped trick. Why'd you do it? Then because I didn't know 'cause he told me it was just a job. I was doing. Stony told you yeah. Yeah, that's right. Now, let's hear your way. You know well, you know He. He said he worked for kind of collection agency. You know where they go after the deadbeats. He said he had to have somebody to help him. Only part time with the pay would be good. Offered me to work. On ETA steady job lately. Sound kind of good to me. Go ahead. Well I suppose to meet him yesterday afternoon. Three o'clock picked me up in front of the place where I live now. Goma pass at grocery store parked around the Corner Gimme envelope, and he told me take greenside. Hand it to a fellow who worked there. He said I was to make sure. Nobody else's in the store on a county. He didn't WanNa make the old feel bad by collecting the debt in front of somebody else you know. So done what he told me. Give, the old guy note you give me the money and I took it back to stoney. Where was he while? You're in the store? Around the corner like I said. Why didn't you go in with? You wanted to see if I could handle it myself on my own. You know that's what he told me Well, then we. We drove over to that. They're flower place. Same routine. Yeah, only this time I got kind of suspicious you know. She acted so scared. Lady didn't seem to me that having to pay up dead. Make somebody so scared I told Stony afterwards. He said it was just act that they all put on like that Well I. Didn't exactly believe him so next place we stopped opened up. The envelope for went inside. Now Dan Ok-. You know well. I didn't know what to do. Finally. Back to the car and I really told him off stony. I told him I was a new thing I told him he had to return all that money. When he say he just laughed at me. He said our biggest pigeon. He ever met I said he didn't take back the door I. Go to the COPS. He told me you throw me in jail at you. Never believe a word I told you. What happened in? Got Out of the car, I said I wasn't a crooked was gonNA. Make me be one. Heading right for the police station and I. got to thinking I seem like maybe he was right that nobody would believe a story like this. So I went home. All Right? Why did you come in today? Well. I didn't sleep none too good last night. Kind of worrying me what I'd done I figured. Maybe he'd find some other sucker like me and pull that same stone over again. I didn't want him to get away with it so. I decided to take my chances on you guys. I'm going to get a short count Emma. Stone lives. No. He never said not to me and you don't always last name either Oh award UMEDA. Henley's Jim or on Olympic I. Hang out there sometimes. You fight. or Some about you. How'd you? Get acquainted well. I. Don't know it just start talking one day last week. He come in for steam bath and afterwards. We're both watching some of the guys workout. Here's there again on. Saturday. That's offered me this job. Kind of a is he drive Chevy Sedan. Coupe hardtop last year's model. You know the license no. Pay No attention. wouldn't matter if I. Did I remember and things? Can you tell us what stony looks? Why is a big fella? Shop Dresser Allergy thirty, five, maybe forty. What color his hair short read anything else scars anything like that. No. That's the whole story Yeah you didn't know you were robbing those stores. You didn't have any idea honest. I sound crazy, don't. Does Joe Nazi from. Right there till you okay okay. We're done expecting us to fall for line like that live. Once he takes for I. Don't know. Couldn't be true word. Heckuva this. Such darn full starring. John just can't help believing allure though do I. Uh Franken I continue to interrogate the suspect. He maintained his innocence and we were unable to shake him. We ran the name Harvey Tilden through. They had nothing on them. We also ran the name stony through the moniker filing. We came up with two possibles. We pulled mugshots and show them to tell them. He tentatively identified one of the photos James Brightstone, but he wasn't positive. We telephone bright stones last known address, Small Downtown Hotel. They told us he'd moved during the summer, and they had no idea of his present whereabouts. We. CHECK DMV and our own vehicle records. They reported that a late model Chevrolet was registered and bright stones name. Arby Tilden was held in custody for further questioning. 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Now on Classic Radio Theater the conclusion of dragnet, the big fall guy originally broadcast June fourteenth nineteen fifty-five, Mulvoy. Don't ring a bell in a fight game we are. About a Harvard tilling. Tax York sure I know. Off and on you, still little boxing. Record six six Cao's. He was before I got. Dylan says is where he met. The stone could take a look at this picture winning. Seen this guy before. Mile. Swear to guy looks something like this. Lately works out. Takes esteem by getting. Around Day. No not so fun. When was the last time remember? The last week Friday Saturday talking to. I don't know maybe guys come in here. Friendly type guys all. Right here's our guard so this Pelicans! Want to talk to him. Okay becomes. Thanks sure I'm a real obliged and I feel. I got no be, will you? I'll be a waste of time. Though calling you, you want to see this guy ought to turn around me. Just walk in the door. Franken I talk to the man George, gently pointed out he readily admitted that he James Brightstone. He also admitted knowing Harvey Tilt Them. He said he'd spent the previous afternoon in his room at the Jackman. Hotel. We telephoned the hotel, but the Clark was unable to confirm bright stones alibi. Five. Thirty one PM we drove a suspect down to the city hall and continued aren't irrigation I look. Why don't you guys tell me what it is you WanNa know. Spell it out real big litters, and I'll give you the answer same size. Where were you asked? Afternoon thought we already covered that. Let's go over it again. Okay, boy! I was in my hotel room while a clerk doesn't back you up? What does he say I wasn't there? What was the last time you saw? Him Saturday over the gym, not yesterday. Jim is an open on Sundays tilting lives. No, you pick him up rooming house yesterday, didn't you can? Why would I be picking a crime up like that? Did you offer tilting the job? Whole pretty funny. WHAT'S THE JOKE I? Ain't GonNa jump myself. Did you ever take them for a drive? Boy I'm telling you the only place. I ever see the guys Jim. Yeah, he knows what kind of car you got all make and model well. Maybe I didn't see him I. Love This Still Valley's screwball. Don't even know what time it is. Whatever we told you can forget it. All are couple of things we can't forget. Telling says you put them up to robbing stores yesterday you can. He says you hired him to work for you to collect some past due bill. This kid is really office rocker, isn't he? Maybe Well, as is supposed to be what he was doing me, these favors outside and your car waiting for 'em. Go Boys. You interest me well. That's about it and you'd pick up a guy in a phony story like that. It look I'm getting Outta here till at the only guy who sit down brightstone. All right jokers prove any part of it. We're GONNA try to like know how we got a team out right now, checking neighborhood of both robberies. If anybody saw your car on those stores yesterday afternoon, you've got trouble. I got news for you. Guys that don't matter where I was yesterday. You can't time into these job. We'll see matter of fact I'll give you a hand. I might have been driving around those stores yesterday. Is that right? Yeah, come to think of it I went for ride along about two. o'clock slipped my mind before. You're not that I. Know where Tilden pulled his heist your Doda. Sure, of course, then what makes you think you were in the vicinity? Saying might have been. Just where who knows it took me a real long time. Do you leave Your Hotel two o'clock? Maybe what time did you get back later on much later? All Right I. Tell You what I'm GonNa. Give you guys a break. Good now. I know you can keep this up for seventy two hours and I got more important things to do so. Let's get it over with. Up to you, okay! Okay. Tell them was given square. He was just the. dumbest pigeon ever ran into. Yeah, go ahead. Let's. You got it now. What are you gonNA do about it. What do you think? If you're smart, Termi loosen Let me. Give you a little advice. Free, so tilden was a fog I already admitted to you guys. But to nobody else anybody else asked me I. Deny it the whole thing, so you might as well play smart. You figure on sticking me with this rap. You GotTa have a signed confession. I ain't GonNa give it to you. Well now. MAYBE WE WON'T EAT IT boy. You got the biggest rocks in your head. Children was in those stores I wasn't. He took the money I. Didn't you go into court? You come and dumber and he does. It's my word against his. You'd think anybody right? Mine's going to believe this boy. You think he'd stand a chance to convince the jury. Willie might. Chad's. CONVINCED US The Star you just heard is true. The names were changed. Protect the. On January, eighth trial was held in Department Ninety Eight Superior Court of the State of California in fall, the county of Los Angeles the District Attorney failed to issue a complaint against Harvey Tilden James Hill. Brightstone was tried and convicted of robbery and the second degree to counts robbery, and the second degree is punishable by imprisonment and the state prison for not less than one year. You have just heard dragnet the series in both cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H Parker Angeles Police Department of Technical Advisers Captain Jack Donahoe Sergeant. Marty wins Sergeant Brazier. Heard tonight where Ben Alexander Vic Rodman for Gregg Eddie firestone script by Frank Burt Music by Walter Shuman Hal gibney speaking. June fourteenth nineteen fifty five dragnet on Classic Radio Theater are us. Constitution is amazing. It's full of what's called. 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It's just a pain in the neck. Worth, a half million bucks, because he was fool enough to write an insurance policy on your life, but not to me my brain on you as a fast three cents. Give it a couple. Sure and that's why I'm here, but yesterday, when I tried to get you to cooperate, you called it a practical joke. About now. No! Cost bullet you last night and scared. The living pants off of you well called. Captain Baramulla the police. Look I need another hour sleeps. Don't fall in my room again before nine o'clock good bye. Tonight and every Weekday Night Bob Bailey. And the transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed expense account. America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator truly Johnny Dollar. From special investigator, Johnny Dollar Location Ensenada Mexico. To the Home Office Union states casualty. Company, Hartford Connecticut's assignment. The laughing matter expense account continue. WHO. Tend Fifty Cents Room Service on a glass of orange juice. Another hours sleep was out of the question, just hearing his voice on the phone left me to man to relax. One of America's most popular comedians living legend. And yet his whole cast the people down here with him on location hated the ground he walked on. Personally? I was on this side. What? was to protect his life from some unknown enemy who sent him a threatening note? And last night, the threat had become action in the form of a shot fired from the darkness. It was my job to see that the killer didn't get a second chance. And that's what I was being paid for and the fact that Charlie Burton class-a. A stinker was irrelevant. Frank malts executive producer of the Charles Burton show, and practically the only early patron of the hotel breakfast Rome was sitting at a table alone. Warning Johnny, I left him sitting in almost the same position at two o'clock in the morning. Only the table then was in a backstreet Cantina in town. He was apparently remembering avoided my eyes until the waiter brought my coffee and gone away. I guess. I made quite a fool of myself last night. I was A. Nice of you ask Johnny. Let's good coffee. Oh. You've been making the rounds last night. For whatever reasons and you feel like talking, but I I wouldn't call that making a fool of yourself all right, thanks. Silver enough when I left you. Should you just sat there and let me talk it? Where'd you go anyway? I came out of the CANTINA. Later you disappear captain. Parral police picked me up in a pro car. He'd located at made from the hotel here. We went home and talk to her so. Well For the moment at least you and Al and Gloria dealer apparently off the hook. Oh, the made says Burton was always annoying her. Whenever she was on duty, he was. I told them to lay all her husband found out and came out here to the hotel yesterday evening I saw him and his wife arguing out there on the terraced after dusk. But I didn't know what it was all about at that time. Anyway. That's the last she saw he didn't come home last night and he's still missing. I just talked to parral on the phone. I've got half the police force looking for a new figure. He's the one who took a shot at Charlie. Last night China adds up, doesn't. I guess so. I hope they find him. Johnny before he finds Charlie again I'd hate to see a board that'll take a rep for killing allows who isn't worth an and I you mean well the chances are they didn't neither one of you. Fellows ever get the bed last night for long morning I'll oh, goodness, frank look, awful man, you must the slept on your face I looked the same as I look every morning. Want some breakfast and our thanks. I'm skipping going to try to get dip net pool before a blubber tummy uses out of his featherbed. I don't think he'll be using the this morning. Not If you remember is what we're shooting today, said castaway sequences, and we'll get that first, but later this afternoon at the light on the water is okay. I want to get those shots at him swimming ashore. Good keep him on retakes till he gets waterline. It's kind of a slapstick desert island thing johnny. You, see Charlie, and is supposed to have been on his yacht, and it sank and I just disappear, but some stop shots at Charlie swimming like crazy in shot of a deserted South Sea Island, and finally Charlie comes crawling up onto the beach. That's the sequence. We're going to shoot this morning. I see, he's pooped. He's dying. You know then I step out from behind a Bush and I'm wearing a full dress, suit, white tie and tails. He thinks he's crazy or something. It starts building from there then. At the East thirsty see so I reach into my coat and bring out a soft drink and ice, cold bottle and I open it and give it to him. It says cut quality beverages on the bottle COTR. Yeah, so Charlie, is it any good and I say it's cut man and he says so nice. Say So. It's got to be good. So Johnny it's out and out slapstick, but it works pretty well on camera. Keeps building you see I, keep producing things out of the bushes, a table and chair, tablecloth dishes and silver caviar bottle of wine roast Turkey then a string quartet, and finally a line of dancing girls, and the payoffs shaggy dog. He says look. We were shipwrecked together. How you doing all of this and I say it's easy. I got a cousin in Congress. It's a lot better on film. Johnny a lot better than it sounds stripped down this way. Yeah well I'm not exactly a fan of burdens. He's got some good stuff. And this missed MR dollar. In fact, he's got all the good stuff. I'm in their forced to feed him the lines as usual of course. If I ever get a decent role in his show, I'll drop dead all relay A. Show. That's not funny. Addy's I said. It's not funny. You thought it was when you did it on the show last month May I. Remind you that your service is going to be easily dispensed with good. Fire me how? I could get out of this lousy contract with you could start on the. Tomorrow and at five times. What's your opinion? I think it easy. By all main, they'll set me up in my own show, and they'll put it in a timeslot right opposite yours and three months Charlie I could bumpy a clear off the screen. You don't say how beat it. Okay Frank. Sar You to get caught in the crossfire Mr Dollar. Nothing personal forgetting. See You later gentlemen. You'll be on that set in the half hour, not a minute later. Yes, sir. You certainly are one big happy family, aren't you? That was a nobody when I picked them up a wrong charlie. That kid is a real talent. Kneel at this C.. You'll see what I have to deal with. He's done as much for this show in the past years. You have you see. I'm forced to live in the very presence of Miami. 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I was wrong I. Admit it I. Just lost my head. I guess when a man's under pressure all this time as I am doesn't always think straighten on I didn't mean any harm toward her ab. It'll be able to convince not your that if he waits long enough to listen. Don't don't please I I know you hate me all of you but. I'm not as bad as you think you just don't know. The load is star has to carry. Why don't you tell us about it? You Frank? You don't think I'm being fair without you think I'm holding him back. Not Getting a chance while you're wrong, I'm actually carrying him teaching him things. I've learned over the years. He knows quite a bit Charles, so you don't believe me. You don't think I know what I'm talking about. Let all right. All Right, I'll show you. Alison written down today's sequence. He said that I. I had the great role. You heard him say oh. I'll trade with him. You mean that yes, I mean. Let them change any line. He wants to fit his style. You can play at any way he likes. 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OA513: California v. Activision Blizzard, Inc

Opening Arguments

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OA513: California v. Activision Blizzard, Inc

"The podge this contract that the pontiff spot happen the witness will comply under the This is see judge. Earth is dumped by this case. I've also misplaced. My judge hammond. system works future. Knowledgeable polished all lawyers mark. Larval suggested that you're not back to your pods. Baio commonplace james taylor. Welcome to opening arguments. A- podcast that pairs a comedian with a real life lawyer. This podcast is sponsored by the law office of the torres. Llc for entertainment purposes is not intended as legal advice and does not form an attorney client relationship. Don't take legal advice from a podcast. Hello and welcome dubbing arguments. This is episode five thirteen. I'm thomas that's andrew how you doing. I am fantastic thomas. How're you got say. I'm little sat already just going into this episode. Because i haven't i haven't delved into the details but just the few things i've seen about this activision stuff. It seems really gross. Terrible something. I would rather just not exist in the world. So we'll see how that goes but you know excited to be doing the show. I know that as always. I'm going to understand the story much better than i ever would on any other source from your breakdown so i'm excited about that part me too well before we get to that. We have to talk about an incredible email. We received so. Why don't we do just that andrew. Yeah so we got an email and this is andrew. I know says all the time but this one of maybe the coolest thing about doing the show is the people we hear from. And you're just like this person heard our show somehow and there's so many of you out there doing amazing stuff or you're involved in these stories or you know whatever may be your in the texas house of representatives who who knows stuff like this is why would you the show. It's so cool. Here's an email. We got hi. I'm don number twelve so already that caught our attention in the inbox. And this is of course referring to the liberty university Lawsuit so i'm number twelve high. You guys thanks for your excellent legal analysis of the case against liberty university. I am only writing in to say that i support and i affirm everything that gil harrington morgan harrington's mother is saying to the press. It was my intent in reporting to the police that day. That what happened in my attack would not happen to any other woman. I am extraordinarily frustrated. That not only did the liberty. Police not take my account seriously on the day. I was assaulted. They also failed to call me back when jesse began attacking liberty university college students. I use the plural students on purpose. I also believe there ought to be a limit to the number of violent crimes by the same assailant which can be reported to a university police department without that. Pd being documented email consultation with the prosecutor when my grandmother arrived at liberty university to pick me up at the close of debate camp. I compelled the chief of police to promise me in her presence that i would be called on my mother's landline telephone. Which liberty had in their possession and which has never changed since that time. If my assailant ever attacked anyone else so that i would be available for corroboration and also for emotional support to the new victim. I believe that we as citizens of the world must find legal ways for survivors of the same salient to meet one another via mutual consent. If i had been put in touch with a subsequent victim of jesse's. I promise you i would've called everyone in the phone book in an effort to put him behind bars. Many things frustrate me about the conduct of liberty university police. Nothing hurts me. More than the fact. That morgan harrington and hannah graham are no longer with us. Anyone currently inside the university who chooses to speak out is a hero. And i will do everything in my power to protect those who still work at liberty who are committing to exposing the institutional route so that we can make positive changes sincerely doe number twelve. Wow i mean i just wanna say the other mindedness right the the spirit of giving a community of solidarity eu our hero to us doe twelve and thank you so much for right like thomas you noticed it. I did you message me. You're like man you have to. You have to check our open arguments. Email it just feels like an honor to be trusted to receive that email dough. Twelve and really. We truly are honored that you would. You would send that to us and let us read it on the show. There are so many heartbreaking elements to the story among them is the idea that she expressed here is is is how traumatic it would be a obviously the whatever the original salt was would be traumatic as hell but also the idea that you're like okay. I want to stop this from happening. And trusting institution to help you do that to trust in the police. The university police the institution itself to help you. Stop this from happening to somebody else and have them completely fail you and not just you fail these other victims i. I don't know that's a level of trauma that i can't imagine and i'm so sorry and i- cheese i. I don't know what even what to say that. I think it just really drives home. How awful this was how this just cannot happen anymore. And i really hope that the law the court this goes i. I hope this has an effect because this cannot happen. I couldn't agree more. And i really love the way. You framed that as Saying thank you to to doe number twelve for her trust in us and for sharing her story with us and hopefully us reading it on the air helps in in some way. Absolutely all right. Unfortunately i think there's a bit of a theme to the show andrew when we talk about the activision lawsuit there is so let's dive into it. Let's do it down to bring down. I want to start with kind of some background here. That goes all the way back to you. Know my favorite decade. The nineteen seventies. That's your favorite decade. Not the eighties. Hold on it's tough. You know this is my least favorite decade least favorite. Oh yeah i take. The eight seventy for nostalgia sees sue for for identity purposes. The eighties style jet. 'cause you know i didn't really experience much of them and you know it. Hey that's right exactly and the company about which i have more nostalgia than any other thing on earth atari atari nolan bushnell invented I did computer space. We're not going to talk about. He invented a video game called pong in nineteen seventy-two play tested at a bar called andy capp's they had to send out a service technician because the coin box was so overflowing with quarters That had caused a short end on the motherboard. So you know you can imagine. I guess there was not a lot to do with the bar. Seventy pong had everybody transfixed atari produced. I cabinets that were sent to bars and then developed a home pong and at the same time they were still making stand up video arcade machines in one thousand nine hundred took a couple of years so by nineteen seventy five bushnell went to toy industry. Show was the first time that atari had ever put out something that it was going to be a consumer product home pong these one hundred and fifty thousand home pong units in connection with that they also sold a whole bunch of video games and pinball machines to bars so seventy five atari forty million dollars in sales. That's not bad right. And atari looked at the very first kaput. Maybe an asterisk on it. We'll get some feedback from no illusions. I'm sure cartridge based home video console which was called the fairchild channel f that's an entirely separate rabbit trail and maybe we'll do it someday. Fairchild channel f was terrible right and bush was like well. I can make a better machine than that. And he had the idea that would become the atari twenty six hundred but nola bush knew that he could not create even with all of the success that he was going to need a massive infusion of cash in order to to create the twenty six hundred so he sold atari to warner communications. Right warner brothers. For twenty eight million dollars. Part of the agreement he would be chairman of the board. But warner brothers would have a tremendous amount of say in terms of their stock ownership. And so warner then. Invested another hundred million dollars into atari to develop the and i'm using the twenty six hundred dollars what it's called today back then. It was called the video computer system or visas and lots of fun stuff happened with the atari twenty six hundred or vs including very very real real story in which atari hired steve jobs of apple. Computer to create the breakout game. Steve jobs then asked his partner. Steve wozniak basically right the whole thing. wozniak wrote it in three days or five days at accounts differ. Jobs was paid five thousand dollars for breakout and paid. Accounts differ either two hundred and fifty or three hundred fifty dollars to steve wozniak which seems to be the typical relationship between jobs and wozniak over the years. Fun fact but not really. I was at a sharks game and wozniak was right in front of me and didn't realize my brother actually realize because we're i think he noticed like people kept trying to talk to him. You know he's a little guy and we saw that he and then my brother put together that he was wearing a sharks jersey. That said the woz on the back of it and There you go whatever the heck. Yeah right in front of so interesting. There's an alternate universe in which atari owned apple early on so so that's the 2600 then sales of the initial six hundred. We're a little below expected in nineteen seventy seven as a warner brothers. Having invested nine figures into this company said we are exercising. We're going to hold a stockholders meeting and we want to elect somebody different as somebody who's not you as president and they elected a guy named ray kassar whose nickname inside warner communications was the czar. I was gonna say put a pin him but don't like i'm just going to talk about how he was a real jerk right leg. He was nasty and abusive to the programmers at atari He would later be convicted of insider trading in the selling off his atari stock minutes before announcing that That you know they in nineteen thousand that that their sales were far below projections right in the after in the aftermath of the tobacco right Garbage guy but that's where the story begins with ray kassar having taken over atari and one of the things that ray kassar did was forbade programmers from taking credit for their games. Now again thinking about this werner communication warner brothers. Right like they are a movie studio. They are a A music company right. And could you imagine. Not being able to put by thomas smith on the label of your your record. That would be insane. Can weird game. Designers were told that they had to be anonymous. And so in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine entire studios so it's not like you know konami or like the i guess maybe different back then but it was very different back then because the games had to fit for the atari twenty six hundred. They had defeated eight k. Of memory and so games were designed start to finish by one guy. Yup really was. I wanted to be like the game is by atari. Essentially the game is by. It's hard right. Yeah we don't you don't you don't know like you know you don't like the lunchbox is by so it. And that was recast review video game. Designers had a different view and so for example. Warren robinson wrote the game adventure for the atari. Twenty six hundred. And if you go into the right secret room it will show up in delightfully blocks block you pixels by warren robin net in the middle of the game. It's literally the first easter egg ever programmed into a computer game cartridge and almost got him fired too by the way. There's so now context. It's nine hundred. Seventy nine thousand nine hundred. Eighty atari is selling hundreds of thousands of twenty-six hundreds. Their gross income goes from two hundred million dollars in nineteen seventy nine to four over four hundred million dollars in one thousand nine hundred which makes them the fastest growing company in the history of america. They're making money hand over fist. Half of it is twenty. Six hundred sales and a half of it is cartridge sales. So there's your dynamic right massively growing company half its revenue in game sales and The ceo is treating the programmers like their dog. Do so as part of a way to continue to ratchet up their profits atari issued a memo in nineteen seventy nine to the programming staff and it listed all of the games by sales from the previous year and the reason that atari did this was they wanted to say. Hey you guys like these are the ones that are really selling welfare us get together collaborate and let's make more games like the ones that are on this list as you might imagine. It had a slightly different effect to the programmers at atari atari at about thirty five programmers at the time and four of them got together and looked at it and said looks like the four of us are responsible for sixty percent of atari sales in from nineteen seventy nine. Those were bob crane. Larry kaplan alan miller and bob white up getting glued. The article here but crane. Says i remember looking at the bill and we realized we'd been responsible for sixty percent of hurry sales the previous year. The four of us there are thirty five people in the department but the four of us did sixty percent of the sales then. We found another announcement that atari had done. A hundred million dollars in cartridge sales the previous year. So you know that's sixty percent translated into sixty billion dollars so these four men may have produced sixty million dollars profit but they were making twenty thousand dollars a year. My yeah right so they then went into rake hashers office and they said hey. You're making a ton of money on our back. Why don't you pass three thousand dollars. Let us share. Why does she led a share in the royalties of games and also treat us more like the music industry right treat us as the authors as content creators. that wasn't a phrase back then Rather than you know anonymous little goblins down here. Rake kassar called them towel. This is against how loading crane towel designers right. Said i've dealt with your kind before you're a dime a dozen. You're not unique. anybody can do cartridge. You're no more important to these projects than the person on the assembly line. Who puts them together without them. Your games sold anything so So that didn't go well and Those four people left atari and they started the first third party developer in the history of humanity. Wow activision and literally the best games for the two thousand. Six hundred came from activists right so everybody. Would you say to atari twenty six hundred what game. You're thinking pitfall but was and activision game. Wherever rate mega mania. Boom the activision games were better than the atari games because the best designers left atari went and founded activists. So i could go on and on about the history of activision right. It's incredible day. Were the first third party developer. For game they invented that market and they survived the ups and downs right like the video. Game market crashed in nineteen eighty. Three right like that was atari. Et and by the way you could you could pull that out. Thanks to the dicko. She ations of the developers who left for activision. Eventually atari did cut its programmers in and gave them royalties. Howard scott warshaw got a dollar for every. Et cartridge check everyone buried in a landfill or for everyone actually sold and played. Well that's the thing as far as we can tell. They earned their royalties on cartridges. Sold the big issue with. Et was that were returned. And there did not appear to have been a clawback provisions. So you know if so that leads. Mr worship got nice cool. Eight mill was a awful lot of money back in nineteen ninety-three but yeah so look the video game market crashed in eighty-three. The home computer market crashed in the late eighties and activision now only survived all of that but went on to create. You know some of the groundbreaking games of the nineties. And since then they've been very active buying up studios. they are today. Major major powerhouse. They bought blizzard entertainment. Right which was how we lead off this entire discussion end. Witch appears to be the subject of this complaint so now that we are all the good positive fun stuff. Yeah let's talk about what this complaint is okay. So again we read it backwards right. This is a complaint brought by california department of fair employment and housing. If you thinking what seems a little weird for company to be sued by the state so you know not a crank. Filing obviously they are entitled to bring those claims under section one two nine four zero of the government code. Which is you and. I have talked about this before. This is your standard equal protection statue in tracks almost exactly the language of title seven of the civil rights act of nineteen sixty four so twelve nine forty seven california twelve nine forty says it is an unlawful employment practice for an employer because of and then i'm omitting a lot of stuff but because of sex gender gender identity gender expression sexual orientation to refuse to hire or to discriminate against the person in compensation or in terms conditions or privileges of employment so slightly broader than title seven in light of The court's decision in bostock versus clayton county probably coterminous now with with title seven but a standard a standard equal protection statute. And the i four counts of. This complaint are utterly straightforward. They are not the ones that are garnering. All the attention as you might imagine but they are very likely to be the bulk of the lawsuit and there's some things that are really interesting about right so count. One is discrimination. In compensation it says at activision women are paid less than men page seventeen paragraph fifty six defendants offered women lower compensation at higher signed women to be lower paid lower opportunity levels enrolls and afforded them less incentive and or equity pay opportunities than their male counterparts. That's an allegation. But it's a very very common one that we see and if true would absolutely entitle the state of california to relief and that relief can include fines and injunctive relief against activision but also an order requiring them. When we get into the constructive discharge requiring them to rehire women programmers who were forced out at activision requiring backpay requiring back equalization of wages right. So there's a lot of different options. Here that are that are available to the state is kind of an ironic twist as i followed some of the media coverage here. There was a kotoka article at again right that this is everywhere on the internet and because activision is such a huge player describes the gravity of the complaint of cat one harassing women are generally brought in a lower rate of pay than their male counterparts with the same experience levels. Often this is because the men that joined blizzard have friends on the inside pulling for them. It also happens because women coming in are usually paid less at their previous job and will accept lower offers without knowing the pay. Pay band that they are being brought in on. That's obviously endemic but again it's a good reminder that sometimes you can have things that seem to be neutral but snowballing effects of privilege lead to to disparate outcomes. But here's the part that really struck me part of the problem. They say is that many details surrounding compensation at the company including perks. Stock options are shrouded in secrecy. Yeah even if you become aware that there's an imbalance there's not a defined pathway to correct it it just struck me how much that was sort of coming full circle from the experience of those young programmers at atari forty years ago. To where where they are today if you read the complaint and now kind of skip back to some of the factual sections just for count one as we as we go through paragraph three notes that activision employees are only twenty percent women and the leadership role is overwhelmingly white and male The directors have all been white men. You know it just seems. I guess what i'm saying is the seems like a pretty plausible allegation But i i mean it's kinda my understanding that this is the unequal background of basically everything. What brings it over into being tortous or something or to the point. Where california's suing them. What crosses that line is a question of what they call disparate impact and you can demonstrate that disparate impact without demonstrating an intent to discriminating. Now we're gonna get to the counts that demonstrate. An you know an intent to discriminate but yeah the fact that this happens to women in a lot of places is not really an affirmative defense available to active here right and and i mean it was more like if this is happening everywhere. Wise and everything being sued. I guess like what's the difference. Yeah and and the difference. The difference is the threshold that courts when they are adjudicating. Disparate impact claim require reasonably good statistical. Evidence That matches up the effect on a particular protected class with certain policies or practices a undertaken by the employer. And so. here's how how that can break down and this is really sort of the paradigmatic case. Imagine that you had a company that did a lot of fulfillment and logistics and they did a lot of packing and shipping in the warehouse and over time. What you saw was that women would be assigned the desk and the dispatcher jobs and men would be assigned the stacking the boxes in the warehouse jobs and even and sometimes you know you would see a disparity in salary between those two positions right. But even when you don't see a disparity in salary between those two positions if you look deeper and they say well obviously you know when it comes time to hire the warehouse manager. We want somebody who's really bent on the floor rain and they never take warehouse managers from the dispatcher. Shot job and women are disproportionately steered into the dispatcher. Job out of a view of well we we want the stronger men Lifting boxes on the floor right. You can see how the and this is. I'm paraphrasing not. Just a real case cases. That have happened. You know sort of throughout history and and and Beginning in the nineteen seventies where you go into court and go. Yeah well you're out. Of course you know. We don't let the women folk stack the boxes and you could see how there there might not have been any malicious intent at any point in time but it wound up with a system. Where you know. Women were sort of pushed into women's work at that company And then a subsequent set of decisions compounded on that You're really locked them out of opportunities to advance into management so that's long winded way of saying that what you have to do not just show the disparate impact but you have to connect that impact back to certain policies or practices that were that were put into place by the company and they've alleged that and you know we'll have to. We'll have to see what happens in discovery. The the allegations here are not. I wanna say are typical of what you see in a complaint. Right like i flagged for you when a complaint is particularly detect right like the against exactly when you have a super detailed complaint and it's like oh okay. well then. They clearly have a document that says x. You will see that. This is right in the middle right. It is not bare-bones there are sufficient detailed allegations and we're going to talk about in there. Others say on information and belief we think that activision systematically paid less money to its women employees and offer them less opportunities for advancement. That is the kind of allegation that courts are very very well equipped to handle and you know and again obviously will survive emotion to dismiss right. You get doesn't cover and you get to prove that. Okay that's count one count to. I'm gonna go quickly through two three and four because they all follow the same pattern cow to is discrimination in promotion right so this is that allegation begins on page eighteen. The key windsor paragraph sixty seven and sixty eight and it said. I was alluding to this that women were assigned to lower paid and lower opportunity levels. Enrolls there is a reference to the quota system at activision and nobody is talking about that I can't figure out what that is yet. So i guess that's a podcast wide. Put a pin in that. I'm going to try and figure out. What the activision quota system is. Nobody is talking about it and it is you know sort of front and center in the allegations of the complaint. Let me read. It's paragraph sixty eight. The first sentences says defendants policies practices and procedures have resulted non-lawful disparate. Impact discrimination against women with respect to promotion opportunities among other practices defendants quota system lack of application process for promotional opportunities as well as it's informal and opaque decision-making process resulted in female employees being promoted at slower rates than their male counterparts. So the the rest of that all makes sense. I don't know what their quota system was. So we're going to try and figure that out. There is in the preceding paragraph in allegation that refuse to promote women that might get pregnant even when women performed higher level work for extended periods of time again very very common stuff so that was count to count three is termination. It's exactly what you would think. This is page. Nineteen seventy seven to seventy eight. They say these are the most barebones of the allegations. They say that activision intentionally discriminated against women in terminations their procedures have resulted in unlawful disparate. Impact discrimination against women termination that means women get fired more often again. Can you prove that woolsey and then count four is constructive termination and that is in there to garner the relief of rehiring bed essentially it says because of the policies we talked about in counts. One two and three women were induced to come work for activision only to realize and this language in the complaint that those promises were empty which effectively forced them to leave the company right so whenever you see a constructive right like a constructive. Eviction is if the landlord shuts off the electricity and heat. T her to your property right. They haven't kicked you out but they've effectively kicked you out and that's that the allegation here. The one that's garnering. The attention is count five and that is an allegation of sexual harassment. This is subsection. J. of section one two nine four zero and here california law is more robust than its federal counterpart. And i'm going to read you. The relevant provisions right one foreign employer because of sex gender gender identity gender expression sexual orientation to harass an employee that becomes a prohibited conduct and it says harassment shall be unlawful if the entity knows or should have known of this conduct and fails to take immediate and appropriate corrective action on employer may also be responsible for the acts of non employees with respect to harassment of employees applicants unpaid interns volunteers or persons providing services pursuant to a contract in the workplace if the employer or its agents or supervisors knows or should have known of the conduct and fails to take immediate and appropriate corrective action and then finally an entity shall take all reasonable steps to prevent harassment from occurring loss of tangible job benefits shop be necessary in order to establish harassment so that is a much more robust protection against harassment on the basis of a protected characteristic in the workplace than federal law. You heard the standard multiple times right. Immediate and appropriate corrective action That's a stronger. Standard of heightened requirement under california law. And here is where. And i should give a mild content warning here. I'm not going to get into the depictions descriptions of of sexual assault but this is beginning with paragraph forty six on page fourteen and there are a couple of paragraphs so paragraph forty six this has been quoted in a bunch of places alleges that and this is odd even for a video game company quote cube crawls in defendants offices were common and male. Employees proudly came into work hung over now. I interpret cube crawls as pub crawl right you go from cube to cube drinking it. It doesn't quite say that right like no place in the complaint and it and it mentions. The cube crawls a couple of times no point. Does it say that the employees were drunk at work right. Which is i think you would say on information bullet right like if if that happened. Yeah you would put it in there. Here's how it's described in paragraph five which is in the introductory paragraphs and this is sort of the more. I don't want to say the more salacious but the more evocative at the beginning it says defendants have fostered a pervasive frat boy workplace culture that continues to thrive in the office. Women are subjected to cube crawls in which male employees drink copious amounts of alcohol as they crawl their way through various cubicles in the office and often engage in inappropriate behavior towards female employees. Okay so that suggests. The drinking is occurring at work but then it says male employees proudly came into work hung over play video games for long periods of time during work while delegating their responsibilities to female employees engage in banter about their sexual encounters talk openly about female bodies and joke about rape which is pretty gross. That's the description of the environment k. Then there are. There are some allegations about individuals. There is a truly sad paragraph. i'm not gonna read it on the air because we don't need to that involved a female employees who committed suicide while on a company trip. Yeah and then. It discusses sort of the incipient behavior in the office before her death and again if true. That's the kind of thing you don't ever ever wants to go before a jury visit alleging connection between those two things that that. Yeah i i will say so again. Skip ahead thirty seconds. If you don't want the detail. The paragraph says that before the trip at a holiday party before her death male co-workers were alleged to have been passing around a picture of her vagina. Oh jeez then she goes on the trip. She was having a sexual relationship with the supervisor. Again typically frowned upon in in the sense of the power dynamic there. The mail supervisor was found to have brought a butt plug and lubricant along on the trip than she committed suicide while on that trip. So yeah doesn't seem like people should be personally liable for revenge or in that case to absolutely and california has a very robust revenge porn law the another another separate kind of suit i would think. That's horrible yeah. It is absolutely is horrible. The last kind of fact that goes into this is that apparently activision conducted its own internal investigation into their human resources department this paragraph fifty and it says female employees had raised further complaints to various. Hr personnel about the discrimination faced including banal limited to complaints about unfair parent. Assignments male co-workers belittling them or minimizing their contributions and male counterparts. Being promoted quickly despite their lack of seniority similarly female employees complained of the harassment. They suffered including that. Male co-workers groped that male supervisor asked them on dates and of other unwarranted harassment. Defendants failed to take reasonable action in response to these complaints and again remember. The standard here is failed to take immediate and appropriate corrective action. Such lack of effective remedial measures was not surprising given defendants own internal investigation into their human resources. Unit noted that there was quote a big lack of trust and that quote. Hr not held in high regard and quote multiple. employees also noted that their complaints were not kept confidential. That's about as bad as it possibly get steph so again. This is a complaint. These are allegations but there's a fair amount of meat on the bones. There's a fair amount of detail here. The quotation of hr not held in high regard right given the grammatical construction there. You have to believe they have an attached the document they don't have to. But you have to believe that the investigatory unit has a copy of that email of that report right. Like there's there are whistle blowers that have given them the copy of that investigation So whether that would ultimately be admissible is an interesting question there is a doctrine that prevents you from introducing subsequent remedial measures as proof of the underlying torque and the justification always given this way right like it is i go into the ice cream store i slip and fall and the way you know they put up a sign that says slippery in danger because you know cautious well on the one hand that that seems like an admission but on the other we want to incentivize them to do that we we. Don't want to say okay. Well you know how to fix this. But you know you're not going to fix it because it will make you look bad in litigation so it's an area where they carve that out analogous here. Is that apply i again. You'd have to make the argument. But i certainly would. 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And as i looked to earlier in the prayer for relief it says The department of employment and housing seeks judgment ordering the defendants one to pay compensatory and punitive damages to to pay unpaid wages liquidated damages and other remedies and penalties available under the equal. Pay act. And that is that goes directly to the employees three that the issue injunctive relief prohibiting the particular policies and practices that are outlined in this complaint for that the issue declaratory relief. Fife and this. I think is is the most that issue equitable relief including but not limited to reinstatement and door. Front pay pay adjustments back pay lost wages benefits including base pay incentive pay pension benefits and awards in an amount to be proven at trial And then the other stuff so autumn asking. Is there an opportunity for other women to be like. Hey also i didn't get such and such thing or people you know because it abc callan okay. So do they do. Put a call out for this kind of thing. I mean it's not a class action right and also that's why i was. Confused is not a class action in. It's california the activation so it's not even like there's named plaintiffs exactly who are like i lost out on this raise and i lost out on this. So is there some within the trial or before the trial or after the what. What's that process of people being like. Well i work at a different company right now. But when i was there like i got screwed out of such and such. Yeah that is absolutely right like what they will have to prove at trial what they will gather. During the discovery phase is they will gather affidavits from women who worked at activision and to the extent that they are able to prove that act divisions policies resulted in a hostile work environment and for example lead to constructive termination The remedy you get from that is reinstatement. Plus backpay right you. You heard me read that whole long list. So you know if they forced you out in twenty seventeen or against the three year statute of limitations two thousand eighteen but right if they made working conditions such that it constructively forced you outright. Made you feel so unwelcomed that you quit and court says yeah. The dfa has Has proven that. Then they can order that you reinstate and they can list down Every single person on the proof again is proof is a civil burden of proof right well if another worrying a bunch of our questions but as we've seen you know who knows but we tend to have a listener. Who is. I'll actually worked there from such as you. What if you just hypothetically if you are a woman who worked at activision in this time period and you're listening to this you're like holy crap you know like you weren't involved in the lawsuit. What do you do. Do you try to call somebody you try to like. I want to tell my story. You know filing affidavit what do you do. Don't take legal advice from podcast. Yeah well no but but but you can evaluate this for yourself. Go to d. F. e. h. Dot ca dot gov. That is the department of fair employment and housing. And that is how you file a complaint on the basis of discrimination on the basis of of sex race national origin and It's it's really easy and straightforward process. They investigate your claim before raising it and the california equal packed specifically says that the labor commissioner's office will keep your name confidential. Until it establishes the validity of the claim only if there is a valid claim. Is there a possibility that your name gets revealed so yeah. My question was going to be win. The court is evaluating all these things. Does it help that. There's a broader case about like. Because i imagine what if there's a case that's a little bit ambiguous say load if somebody didn't get a raise didn't get a promotion. He can't really prove it. You know or something like that. But maybe the fact that there's this whole case that shows this pattern and practice or whatever shows us atmosphere is that take into account. Does that help or is it going to be like each claim on its own has to be crystal clear on the merits so again remember that at the end of the day the burden here is preponderance of the evidence. Fifty point one to forty nine point nine so it is ever so slightly more likely that you know the company engaged in x. behavior than you know than not than yes they can be adjudicated liable for that and what you will have. The crucial thing here is that you will either get if the facts are. What are anywhere near what this complaint seems to elect. Activation would be insane to let this go to trial right. Okay you know. And so i would think there will be a comprehensive settlement Yeah with with the with the legislation on the reason. I ask though is often in these things each individual and this is why it's so pernicious tough to deal with whether we're talking about gender equality racism or whatever for a given case you can always have some story that makes sense well. I just didn't like her experience or just didn't like her. She had experienced. But i didn't like her education level and for any given decision. There can always be some story of like wow yet. Resume didn't like this part of the resume. And then lo and behold when you look at the total no women are at the top note. Women are being hired. And that's why. I'm wondering if they're able to evaluate all of that together and say well. Okay sure this one decision. Maybe it could have been just that you didn't like the school. The girl went to and it was kind of orleans. Whatever might have been a normal hiring decision but given the weight of all this other evidence. You've lost the benefit of the doubt. A that is an excellent point and be because the california department of fair employment and housing has placed at issue. The question of whether there was systematic discrimination. The court will have to weigh in on that so there will be a determination as a factual determination as a matter of law. Right as to weather there was systematic discrimination against women in employment at activists and that absolutely one hundred percent will be. The rule is then rescued. Okada that is it has been settled and once court has determined that there was systematic discrimination against women activision taking place. You can't relitigate that fact right in that fact has been determined and so long as it meets the requirement. Right it's a. It's a a court of competent. With the question squarely placed before it and activision had an opportunity to rebut it that become yes settled law. And that's why you see you know when you have these kinds of consumer complaints. You will them see private lawsuits sort of piggyback on the back of right and and it's for precisely that reason because the common defenses that are otherwise available to you you'll be able to know they cannot. They cannot let you. Don't get two bites at the apple. A court already determined That you failed to take immediate corrective action to inappropriate sexual harassment in the workplace. So yes that's it's a big thing and a big deal. And as i think i mentioned this at the beginning but but it's worth emphasizing again. California has demanded a jury trial in this case Not a surprise. Yeah an and i made in the complaint. Which is what i should have known had it. I almost had it almost so well. My final question on this andrew. And i guess i'm glad we haven't talked about it yet. Depending is the big headline that you didn't mention so i don't know if this is part of the suit or not but there seems to be a big headline about you know inside. Blizzard developers infamous. Bill cosby sweet. Is that anything. That's in the complaint. Is this just a a headline. Is this a taco headline. So it's people are talking about it. Where does that come from so it is. It is rather unfortunately spelled the bill. Crosby sweet in this in the night. Oh in the complaint is gonna say the headline i'm looking at. It's not but okay and the no the And so this is. This is paragraph forty-seven so the reason that i didn't mention it. I i mean. I alluded to it. I said there are complaints about particular individuals because to me. This is a much less persuasive piece of evidence than the systematic discussion of the cube. Crawls the game playing the joking about rape. That i mean to me. That's sort of your classic hostile work environment. Paragraph forty-seven talks about the former senior creative director of world of warcraft at blizzard that the company put on a convention called blitz khan and that this person got drunk and hit on all the female employees crossed. The line attempted to kiss them putting his arms around them. In plain view of other male employees including supervisors who had to intervene and pull him off and then His his sweet was nicknamed and again. It's a typo so it says the crosby sweet but it says the crosby's we at at its twice in there so apparently the the lawyer who wrote this must have been like twenty four or something like you know after after alleged rapist. Bill crosby okay. So it's under that broad heading sounds gross to say the least it sure does. Yeah well it makes me happy. I was always a final fantasy. Eleven fan but i'm sure that square whatever studio that is probably as problems do okay. So what are keeping an eye on in terms of going forward. I assume they answer it or or we go into settlement mode like right away idiots possible that that activision will file a motion to dismiss. I mean again. That is typically. What you do as a big inc jessica and it is going to be really really hard on these facts specific complaints to garner dismissal. They will have to answer them. There are a couple of things out here that have not yet sort of penetrated into the you know kotoka who kind of gaming news and one of them that i find really interesting from the legal geeky standpoint is count ten which is a separate provisions of the labor code labor code four three two point six Which says a person shall not as a condition of employment continued employment or the receipt of any employment related benefit require any applicant or employee to waive any right forum or procedure under the california fair employment and housing act or this code so that suggests that there were people who were bullied into signing document that says they would not sue activision as a condition of continuing to work there now. That allegation is made right and again as we know. It's valid to do this in a complaint that allegation is made you know quote on information and belief so they're entitled to take discovery and they are entitled to prove it but it says that defendants required female employees to waive rights forums and procedures as a condition of continued employment. So i very very interested if that happened. Those documents will start to surface and and we will start to see the news of that and again. That's you know we've seen that happen in other litigation like as As things develop with with non compete clauses in the like and and So so i'm keeping my eye on that. And i'm also trying to figure out what the activision blizzard quota system was right. Yeah so those are. Those are the developments that i would look for kind of on the near horizon than at some point. Activision is going to have to file an answer and there will be discovery but activision 's lawyers will do everything in their power to make sure that this is not fought in the public. I suppose i should also say i've seen some things going around. Regarding the fact that activision has hired wilmer hale to defend it in this litigation and wilmer hale is just their their mega firm right. They're huge covington. Burlington coat factory there couple of you know inflammatory. Pieces that say you know. They're they're known for union busting or whatever and we'll warmer hale has done a lot of activision work over over the years and they have of their lawyers right. They have an employment employment law group. And so i certainly wouldn't read anything into mega firm defends fortune. Five hundred company like yeah. Of course they do that. Nephew went argue. That's one of the major reasons or perhaps the major reason our legal system is broken. As in i'm with you doing anything like specially sinister in hiring this firm it. There is no right. Like willow typical wealth rich company defending itself which obviously might be sinister. But but not like that any more so than you would expect for this company. Yeah all right. Well we will keep an eye on that and i'm sure our listeners will as well and Absolutely feel free to to always email us those questions and updates but we'll keep an eye on that Soup if you worked at activision blizzard let us know thank you. And now it's time to thank our hall of famers. Are all time greats. Patriot dot com slash law. Hope you're enjoying all the goodies and the great stuff and the qna's and all that stuff let's start with. Now here's something we hope. You'll really like alex. Well it says. Alex i think they had the good sense to say alex instead of someone else drop table patron underscore shoutouts comedian. Aaron trae hanoch. 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Name the aso defense is just throwing yourself on the mercy of the and saying i left up by the way underrated tactic. I agree with that one hundred percent. Natasha crunch rep. Wants you to support the justice policy institute sam buck and of course the apex of the pyramid. He who shall never be dethroned. Conrad michael oh no social. This firm has ever failed the bar exam. No kidding and now fourteen three e. impossible streak pork in question and you wanted to make extra sure that i didn't get too confident after answering several of them correct in a row. Let's find out what's going on with this question. Yeah you you were feeling pretty. Good here so I three a hard one. This is This question involves a consumer from state files a hundred thousand dollars products liability action in federal court against a manufacturer incorporated and with its principal. Place of business in st be. That just tells you as you sussed out that federal court jurisdiction over a state law claim would be appropriate here consumer claimed a flaw in the manufacturer's product had resulted in severe injuries to the consumer in the answer. The manufacturer started a third party. Complaint against the product designer and also incorporated and with its principal place of business in st b believing that the consumer had sued the wrong defendant. The manufacturer claimed both that the designer was solely responsible for the flaw that had led to the consumers injuries and that the manufacturer was not at fault and so then the question was Oh and the designers aware that the manufacturer did not follow all of the designer specifications when making the products which the following arguments is most likely to achieve designer's goal of dismissal of third party complaint. And i want to say from the outset. You don't like again like a lawyer. You keyed on the correct way to parse this question which is how do you win on a motion to dismiss and so you eliminate it right. The only answer you were comfortable. Eliminating was see the manufacturers failure to follow the designer specifications caused the flaw that resulted in the consumer's injuries. And you correctly realized that that goes to the merits of the claim. That might be reason why they would win but they are definitely not going to get a motion to dismiss something right. Absolutely through five years ago might not have probably gotten that. Yeah that is by the way our friends who who just took the bar last week right like you have to make certain time trade-offs if you're reading quickly and you're not keyed in on dismissal. You might say the best argument here. You'd be wrong for the technical reason about to come up to you. Might say the best argument is that lack of causation argument. But you'd be wrong because this is a question about what's most likely to achieve dismissal. And that is zero percent likely to leave dismissal so you narrowed it down to a and b and went with a as did the coin be i wanna tell you is also incorrect. So that was good You do not need leave of court to file a third party complaint. You only need leave of court to file a third party complaint you do. So if you're seeking to add claimed to that complaint more than fourteen days after serving your original answer so in other words if your answer you have a third party complaint. That's totally fine. You don't need leave of court. You just file it so then. The question is a the court does not have subject matter jurisdiction over the third party complaint. Because there's no diversity between the manufacturer and the designer they're both citizens of state be where is it. D- the manufacturers third party complete failed to state a proper third party claim. And as you probably guessed from my lengthy setup it is d- yeah close. You were close so to many possibilities. I definitely thought of d. But i just there's too much else going on in this question for a non lawyer. There's a lot going on. But here's the principal. And i don't think we've ever talked about this. Before the principle is called supplemental jurisdiction right and and the way to understand that is you. Were sort of struggling through. Hey there's a complaint by the manufacturer against the designer then would they go to state at court and how and and remember that. A lot of these kinds of rules are designed. Your you have two different legal principle sort of butting up against each other on the one hand you have the idea of which you are. Well aware that federal courts are courts of limited jurisdiction. They get only the cases that specifically come before them right. They've got a fall. You've got to either have a federal question cause of action or you have to have diversity or you have to have some of you know a very limited number of cases that are That are spelled out in the constitution. You don't just have general jurisdiction. The federal court so federal courts are quits have liquor section. That's on the one hand. On the other hand is the notion of. Conserving scarce judicial resources. Right the idea that if there's a car accident right and eleven people are in the car accident. You wanna have one lawsuit right. You don't wanna have eleven lawsuits and the same thing is true in kinda this product liability complaint here and that is you don't want to incentivize. Having the manufacturer have to sue the designer in some other forum. While you're litigating over the product to the person who was hurt so that federal court can have supplemental jurisdiction over the third party. Complaint okay however and this is truly you said this is this is one of the hardest questions this is a truly diabolical question for the purposes of teeth because it involves behavior that a party would never do in real life. Okay so let me give you the ones. I always get me. I feel like out of it. Says i don't get it. You're like well problem here. Is this would never happen. But i don't know that so after like almost man. We're your cash. But i just didn't see enough in the paragraph to evaluate exactly. Why like exactly. Why would have failed to state a proper third party claim. So you'll have to tell me. Why did it fail to state at. Here's the rule and once you think about this it will make sense but again. There's no reason for you to have been thinking about the federal rule fourteen. A one says the defendant may serve a third party claim on a non-party on somebody. The plaintiffs didn't sue quote. Who is or may be liable to it. That is the defendant for all or part of the of the claim against it right so far so good right and that and that makes total sense right like so. If i sold you the chainsaw and the chainsaw backfires and causes injury. You sue me and i say oh. Yeah but the manufacturer owes me for that because then i can serve a third party complaint on the manufacturer and bring them into the lawsuit. Even if you didn't and even if you didn't think about it however this reversed the facts right. This was the manufacturer was sued and then sought to bring in the designer and the argument was as it says in there that the designer was solely responsible for the flaw and that the consumer had quote sued the wrong defendant so in other words as you parse it out. There is no allegation that the designer owed anything to the manufacturer. There was no claim for derivative liability. Right that is they attributed to the right. there was just. You sued the wrong person. In the way in which the way in which you would the way in which you would raise this in an actual will answer is you would just say in someone else's responsible yeah wouldn't instead of a third party claim you just skip straight to the like. Nope got the wrong guy. Here you go. Now it would be up to the plaintiff to amend their complaint to the right person. You no incentive to say. Oh i want to help the plaintiff recover from ex party right because that doesn't help you in any way whatsoever so yeah it it boy or tricky and i you know you almost feel like that. I guess we can't even count this against the coins percentage because i didn't give the coin the opportunity. I really should've gone between a and d. I was close to doing that. And then maybe at least the korean could have one had the luck anyway. i like. You're like well. If i can't win i hope at least point you know. Yeah this boy that was it was it was hard. I think i got a lot of it but not quite that for miss for totally whipping on second chance. This was a very close one for wing. Second chance. I you know i've had i've done. Second jen's where he just was not close. This i was i was almost there. I just didn't. I didn't have the confidence to dump. Be for d. and i should have and then you know it's just. It was hard for me to figure out why it failed to state a proper third party claim. But now that you laid out i get it well. I learned a lot of for getting ninety percent of it but maybe a little bit of this will stay in my plan. Wow there's a lot to that question. Why don't we find out who are big winner is who who ever got this right. Probably knew their stuff or maybe guest. I can't wait to hear about it. All right. thomas will. This week's winner is craig on twitter. And this has some real thomas vibes here. There's going to be the first teeth. Repeat winner to not actually pick an answer. He forgot to write it in his answer. But he says t- three be i think. The manufacturer failed to state a claim liability falls on the manufacturer whether the design specs followed or not won't change. That don't need leave defile early if you do it early and a third party complaint is not a new action. So there's no jurisdiction problem totally analyze. The question completely correctly forgot to fill in the answer space but i love it and we're going to give you credit. Everyone give. That is at craig k. Brian cr a i. g k. b r y mt. Everyone tweet greg. A little bit but Give them a follow on twitter. And congratulations crag on being perhaps the most unique winner in history. And that's our show. Thanks so much. For listening. Tune into the youtube cuna. That may have already happened or for it. Either way you can watch it on youtube or patron. You'll get that high quality audio in your feet as always thanks so much for listening. We'll see you. On friday. i moved for bad. Coit thingy you mean a mistrial. 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Quizbeard #12

Quizbeard weekly trivia quiz

14:46 min | 1 year ago

Quizbeard #12

"The media famous Siblings Islands General Knowledge and ABC words these. It's an as round so it's time to dust off the black spots for quiz bed number. Twelve hello everybody and welcome to quiz bid number twelve if you're a regular listener you'll know how this works in how twenty-five questions over five subject rounds with thirty points available in total as you can play your black spot cards on any nominated round before the first question in that round has been asked this allows you to double points on those five ounces and those five ounces only if you have any questions on has a please check quiz bid. Dot Com slash. How for details and again. Please remember to visit the Website Quispe Dot com and to like and subscribe to the podcast where you can if you can give a rating review on I tunes or where we have podcast APP used. I'll be brilliant. And if you'd like to help keep quiz bid up and running you can now do so through my support page. That Quiz Bit. Don't come slash support. Patrons of the show will receive benefits including entry online to upcoming price competitions. That will be launching very soon as always you can get in touch on the usual socio social media places which can be found linked to from the site. And if you'd like to suggest topic for around or submit some questions then please semi message and yours might get featured okay. Let's make a start with today's questions. Round one the media number one which UK Sunday newspaper closed its doors in two thousand eleven. The two in US broadcasting what the letters NBC Stanford. Three which you K- early morning program was originally broadcast from an old lock. Keeper's House on the River. Lea In east London before which Daily Mirror cartoon strip character has a statue dedicated to him and his hometown of Hartlepool and the five which tickle magazines purported proprietor is known as Lord. Nope Brown to famous siblings the mistakes which of the Baldwin Brothers is singer. Justin Bieber's father-in-law is it a Alec. B Daniel See William would be stephen number seven. What would the first names of Aviation Pioneers? The Wright brothers number eight which of the Bronte sisters wrote weathering heights was a Charlotte's be. Emily will see the mid nine. What is the family name of the brothers who are responsible for the very first Guinness Book of World Records? What portmanteau term is used to describe the musical act comprised of brothers John and Edward Grimes route three islands? Eleven which is the largest of the Channel Islands number twelve on which island is the country of Brunei situated. Number Thirteen which island is famous for its giant carved stone. Heads the fourteen. What is the world's largest island Fifteen Coney island in Brooklyn is thought to be named after the Dutch word. For which Animal Ramboll is General Knowledge? It's general knowledge but also a blockbuster's round so I'll give you the first letter the answer and a clue to answer as well number sixteen. What be was ship? That was overtaken by mutineer Fletcher Christian in seventeen eighty nine number seventeen. What D- is another name for United States ten cents Coin Nebr- eighteen? What am was a medieval traveling entertainer known for singing and reciting poetry the mid nineteen what G. is a system of millions or billions of stars together with gas and dust held together by gravitational traction twenty what see connects the previous ounces in this round round five. Today's ABC words for each question. I'm going to give you three words. One starting with the letter A. One beginning with be a among beginning with C. Two of the words that will give you for each question have been invented or thoughts have been invented or coined by William Shakespeare. I'm one of them. Hasn't what I'd like you to do. Is just a name for each question. Which one has not been attributed to William Shakespeare Number Twenty one? Hey amazement be bedroom. See carnivorous twenty. Two a alligator be Barnacle see critic twenty three a average be bandit champion number. Twenty four a anchor be buzzer. See compromise and twenty five. A advertising be dazzled and sea creature. Okay here the answers to today's quiz questions round one was the media number one. The Sunday newspaper that closed its doors. In two thousand eleven was the news of the world number-two in US broadcasting the letters NBC Stanford National Broadcasting Company. The MMA three the early morning program that was broadcast from the lock keeper's house was the big breakfast. The before the cartoon strip character with the statue in Hartlepool is Andy. Capp A number five. The magazine with the proprietor known as Lord Gnome is private round two was famous siblings number six the Baldwin brother. Who's the father in? Law of Justin Bieber is D- Steven Stephen Baldwin. The seven the first names of the Wright brothers Orville and Wilbur number eight weathering heights was written by be Emily Brown say mid nine the brothers responsible for the Guinness Book of Records where the mcwhirter brothers Norris and Ross mcwhirter number ten John and Edward. Grimes are known together as Jed would round three was the islands round number eleven. The largest of the Channel Islands is Jersey number twelve. You would find Brunei on the island of Borneo number thirteen. The giant stone heads would find on Easter Island and before the world's largest island is greenland the fifteen coney island in Brooklyn is thought to be named after the Dutch word for rabbit. Round four was the general knowledge around the blockbusters round. Let me sixteen the letter B. That was a ship. Overtaken by Fletcher Christian was the bouncy seventeen the day. That was another name for a US. Ten cent coin is a dime number eighteen. M that's a medieval traveling entertainer has been stroll the mid-nineteen g which is a system of billions of stars galaxy. A number twenty. What see connects the previous answers? You know so he's chocolates. I'll give you confection as well but chocolate would be the preferred answer round number five was the ABC words of the Shakespeare Shakespearean Words attributed to William Shakespeare. So I give me three words. One of them wasn't attributed to Shakespeare near the two. Were so number twenty one. The answer is C carnivorous so amazement and rumor both attributed to Shakespeare. We're twenty two down series B. Barnacle twenty-three a average twenty four a Tonka and the twenty five sea creature. Okay thank you very much for taking part in this week's Quiz. Please remember to visit me at quiz bed. Dot Com for past episodes and links to social media and more I'll be back next week than a another twenty five brain teasers. So until then take care and good bye.

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Chernoff on NFL Division Races

You Better You Bet

15:59 min | 2 months ago

Chernoff on NFL Division Races

"It's time for you better. You bet with. Nick dose and ken barkley they bring you the bedding insight laughs and some rance along the way. We're not surprise. You the only action i got that night involved. The we'll give you an edge to beat the spread and so much more back to back to back games like fifty miles per hour winds and nobody else played that they also played a very easy schedule highlighted by the afc north through the nfc east last week. Oh that wager tamest. It's you better you bet from bent q. Well our number three on a monday. It costs us. Barkley here with you on bed q. L. how good was carlos pain. Yeah it was great genuinely like like always like people who like super excited to be on. The show had part of the reason maybe that he was. He was energized as if he was to gonna. We wanna bet those opinions. Those are like those are valuable if you like the braves plus seven hundred. Yeah and and even like even kinda was like i think he's pretty on the yankees versus some of the other teams. That are out there. I know he mentioned the white sox might be there foil but those are those are bets that you can still make that have like a pretty good amount of value versus the expected teams. That we think are going to be there at the end. You know white sox astros and then the dodgers obviously on the other side and if you ever watched the chance to watch that episode of impractical jokers. So i kind of alluded to it. At the end of the hour they punishment that the end and joe. Who's probably the funniest joker. Just basically needs to be in their camera shot doing ups whenever the two of them are on camera together they're taping and and you just see like as they start realizing like the rosa's like laughing about it a little more but at i am not is not a criticism i would be livid if i were carlos i would've gone nuts. Pain a- was furious like absolutely livid like once realize what was going on like it is it is massively and the more the more that joe doesn't joe calls genome one point like jeeter. Give me a hand here eater down. It is it is. It's really great okay. So that was really awesome. Carlos painting was great. Brian baldinger was great or two days are going to be great. Titans and colts breakdowns. Coming up as we move along this hour. Power our next hour all our bets tonight major league baseball saints jaguars and ken and i will continue our conversation week. One of the national football league plus the plates. They're going to be here and they going to be big big plates read wallich with bed q. Five star plays on a monday night. But right now we welcome in an old friend to the shell. Churn baby churn. The great adam. Chernoff the host of the simple handicap podcast. But you can find wherever you find your podcasts also. Doing great work with our friends. Over at covers covers dot com. Cherney joins the show here with nick and ken adam. Welcome back to you better. You bet. Nick and ken bet you'll hear on monday. What's going on. It warms my heart to be back on with both of you at the time. It's been great gained back with laki and a couple of guys as well in the last couple of weeks. Those guys laki whoever they were. It's not important. Adam we today. We didn't interesting exercise to start the show the first hour which some of the preseason thoughts but also started going back to week one of the regular season and almost like i feel like i hadn't thought about it in a week or two like how do i really feel about these. Big one games are any of my opinions changing as a result of either stuff that i'm reading or stuff from free season or both combined it doesn't have to be just preseason in give you an example. Maybe the jets look a little bit more feisty against carolina would maybe one example based on what we saw from. Zach wilson have you found yourself revisiting some week one sides and totals and either changing your mind or taking a game. That was maybe a stay away. And i have a strong opinion on it. Not yet it's been slow for me starting into the week. One stuff this season more so than other years and again. We talked about a couple of weeks ago. I've been adopting the agnostic atom approach after a rough twenty twenty so just like a lot of questioning and trying to understand a little bit more and not really latching onto opinions. I mean at this time last year. I probably had like six or seven week. One bets in the account and like nothing yet. So i've done well the sort of avoid and change that a little bit but we have seen some totals move pretty significantly just around sort of some of these quarterback speculations in We saw dallas tampa come way down in the last little bit. We've seen a lot of stuff moving around with the bears as well. So there's there's movement. I'm watching but nothing really that i'm jumping on just yet so you had a rough twenty twenty now. You're agnostic adam. I had a rough twenty nine thousand nine and i just latched onto laki and it was really great. And i'm gonna do the same thing this year to try and win in twenty twenty one so turn give us something that you really like something that you're targeting right. I know you said no bets are placed just yet but i know that you've got a couple of things that you've got circled at least at dreux monitoring fence that you're at least excited or looking to place as we move closer to week one. Do we wanna go like really close and talk. Nfl preseason week three or is that or if we're going that route sure her name. We literally have segments where we break down. Every single preseason game during the week so this is this is is great yes please. I was listening to some of the deep dies last week where it was like in play angles on quarterbacks coming in i just it just warms my heart so much. I'm looking at minnesota. Kansas city on friday night. And that's three and a half right now. And i don't know how that does not go up the minnesota vikings beyond the starters like there's just not a lot there in avid scored an offensive touchdown. This preseason and then you like. I was watching the chiefs The other night this weekend and it was one of the few games i caught in like they have like jerick mckinnon's in like late or quarter and he's still got speed. They've got guys out why that are running the same system like it's just i feel like it's two teams right now within the preseason on very different levels once you get to the second and third string and so i don't know how three and a half doesn't go up further I think that number is going to grow. So i. I bet that one today. I think that number is definitely going to get bigger. And i've been latching onto the jets week one and two of the preseason. We spoke about it ear- lucky a few weeks ago. About how like robert salon just has that team sounding and looking different and it's the type of thing that you can just ride throughout the preseason like there's motivation there from guys playing late on the defensive side into these games. They got the safety against the giants they were holding the packers off. The board green bay was converting wild third and fourth thousand like eighteen. Play drives and still like the jets. Were just playing hard. It's just the motivation that he brings to. The team is really good. So the jets at four and the chiefs at three and a half or two beds. That i've made in like short term future for looking at This coming week for nfl week. Three of the precede and for people cheese playing the for people avocado minnesota preseason yet a lot lot of jake browning not not exactly what you want to necessarily and and adam you mentioned the jets that was about that. We talked about on our friday. Show that we like for the preseason when they covered against the packers. I think you said i think your quote just now is like so. That's something you can ride through the preseason. So many you know robert solid team like there's this new culture new mindset that's something can ride through the preseason my big problem and we've done the jets as part of our preview series already adam as well we get to the regular season this division every time i do pass of this division. I'm like this. These could be three monsters of them. I mean really like exa. All three could be top eight defenses. I think it depending on how you know. The kind of quarterback play especially that new england gets like there aren't a lot of holes in these teams and so the jets might be great but not win a whole lot. Gimme valuable bets are insight you have in relation to all of the afc scott in totality. A boy. I think the pats do really well. I'll tell you that the way that they're built in constructed they finally spent in the off season. And i think like i'm hoping cam gets to start. People want to see mac and there but like this is as close to a roster in terms of like a carbon copy of what he had in his. Mvp your carolina with the pieces that were built around them. And so i think the just coming off of last year. The pats are a little bit underpriced buffalo. Like you mentioned they could be a monster for sure. The way brian tables like approaching this season there seems like like last year was aaron rodgers and sorta like the the f you so to speak to her around the league and sort of making up for what happened in the off season. We might see it again to be honest but brian cabell. I think really takes that on for not getting that head coaching job and like last year the playcalling he brought to that team was just ridiculous. And now you add emmanuel sanders in there and some of the the pieces they have. I think buffalo's gonna be really good and then like you mentioned with miami. Like i think their prices a little bit too is was the opposite side of the spectrum. But i tell you what we're seeing from in terms of quarterbacks this preseason i'm not a big react to preseason zyppah guy but that it's it's looking pretty impressive like it looks like he's of injuries. It looks like he's very healthy taking a little bit more command. So that's beginning. Is that agnostic. Adam thinking back like i wasn't totally sold on 'em and the dolphins at that price but coming around just a little bit and so when you put the jets in that equation. I get zack. Wilson is look great in the preseason at times but some of these throws have been behind guys kroft. Bail them on a couple of times that this last weekend and he's getting away with some stuff i think when he gets again against the number will either the play picks up. It could be a little bit rough. But i do like the coaching there. That could potentially get the jets to like seven wins. This your maybe as as a ceiling bottom. Yeah like you said that divisions loaded. And if i had to look at one of those four teams to sort of play above expectation. I'd be circling. The pats more so than the other three you better. You bet nicole cam barclay on a monday chat national football league with our old buddy adam chernoff host of the simple handicap podcast also doing great work for our friends over at covers and covers dot com adam. Ten and i continue our today's today's the segment after after. You hear doing the tennessee. Titans indianapolis colts to top objected teams in the. Afc south. i i come like the jaguars a little bit of this division. Gonna give us your if you wanna talk about. Houston you can if not that school too. But how do you kind of cap the afc south this year just right houston for like two to fifteen the extra. Just give them a to in season and call it a day I'm with you on the jags. That numbers coming down though. So there's there's other people with some power that have brought that number down a little bit that's gonna keep coming down. I'll tell you what i was doing. The titans preview on the podcast. And ag- i've been critical of them in years past and i was really sort of pointing it. Arthur smith is sort of a point of uncertainty. But i'm really starting to wonder if it's the opposite way around and i was just maybe wrong. The whole time He's out and you get this offense. Now that's wanting to maximize derrick henry. Even more guys had six hundred and eighty carries in the last two years so like i don't know what that means. But that's like the emphasis of the offense in this off season. We know rachel's not going to step in and do a whole lot to adjust that and so now it's potentially like titan system. Where if you expect them to reach the level. They did last year. You're betting on the titans to have their quarterback have another career. You're betting on derrick henry to perform to utilization rate. We've seen only one other time in. Nfl history with ladainian tomlinson. You're betting against a team. That exceeded their win expectation last year based on point differential. You're banning a team that did nothing to improve defense. That was fifth worst in the nfl despite facing the fifth easiest schedule of opposing passers. And you're betting on all of this against the schedule now in twenty twenty one that gets dramatically more difficult for the titans overall and so like. I'm not saying there's offense could be very very good again. There's no question with some of those pieces but like a bet on tennessee. This year is just a bet against a lot of things. We haven't historically seen teams really achieved and so not saying they can't do it. But i'm just saying that it's a bit of a stretch there and then like the colts why are we. Why was anyone ever excited about carson wentz like that nostalgia of two thousand seventeen which was an enormous outlier year. If you look at his numbers he was. One of the worst quarterbacks last year was ranking thirty. Fifth and thirty. Six in key stats. There's thirty two starters in the nfl. And then we're like always with frank again. Everything's gonna be fine now. We don't know his health status. They got rid of costanzo. We don't know when they're offensive line is going to be fully healthy is there's injuries across i. I don't know where that excitement for india's coming from the one of the many teams this year that as a reasonably decent roster but just question marks a qb and were sort of avoiding that because there's a combination of nostalgia hope that these players play up. So i'm with you. I think the thousands of week is division in football. I think the jags at that price. Just worth a flyer. It could. Well be a loser. But i just think that division is is weak. And everyone's taking a step back. That's a great teaser. For our next two segments coming up the weakest division football awesome. But i'm inclined to agree with you. I'll be curious when when nick and i both get to the titans. What our opinions are of their bets. Adam one thing we've had a lot of fun doing over the last month or so on this show is taking these very obscure whether it's an award market or a statistical market. You know best record. I coach fired all this stuff. I really enjoy doing these nikkan. I've had a lot of fun breaking them out. I understand you've done some work on most interceptions somewhere that you started sharing recently so would love you know like some some valuable that's potentially in that market. That is not one that we have addressed on this show. I feel like the breakdown is sort of laki. Eskin how i approach here. Lay it on me so is interesting market and when you look at like who's won the award historically in the last ten years. There's been thirteen. Quarterbacks that have led the league interceptions or have been tied for them. The average team has right around six wins for the season. None of them have made the playoffs. And it's a team that usually has a very poor defense and because of that rank top ten in pass rate the average was nice and so i sort of constructed the league out in sort of projected who would be within the top ten teams like buffalo and kansas city and tampa bay. That you're going to take out because we know they're not going to be like six teams and it left me with a handful teams or both five or six and the two that really stood out in turn sort of made the most sense. There was jared goff far and away number one and if you think about it the lions win. Total is five. He goes away from having sean mcvayn corner guiding him through reading defenses until the headset. Cut up fifteen seconds before all of that stripped away. And who does he get in his corner. Now dan campbell. Whose biting guys kneecaps off an anthony. Lynn there couldn't be a worse combination. The lions defense is going to be horrendous their pass rate's gonna be up because they're trailing and he doesn't really have anyone fantastic to throw to and so we've seen goff shaky throat his entire career despite it being disguised with mcveigh and now you're getting him completely stripping all of that got about thirty seconds about thirty seconds left. Turn supporting that taken away like. It's a no brainer to take him. And so i think with all that said in the breakdown. Golf stands out as as the guy that's far and away within that market. But it really really fits. Who's won the award in in the or one the stat in the last couple of seasons without. What's maybe the needed context. Who was the second guy. Just out of curiosity goff was one who is to herbert. Because last year he led the league rookie in pressure passing and he struggled from a clean pocket. There's no way that repeats this here. All right listen. I'm into agnostic adam. This is cool for novelists. Come come season time. we're going to have you on. We're gonna be firing offense. Okay so no question about it. Easing into it right. I'll ease into the season. that's okay. He's on twitter at turnoff as podcast. It's simple andy. Capp adam stay. Well we'll talk to you soon here around you better. You bet. thanks guys. Duck the next week coming up next the worst division in football the afc south is ken. And i'm ring now the tennessee titans and the indianapolis colts you better. You bet from bacterial download the app today to get the latest analytics to help. You beat the sports books.

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Part 2: Michelle Lovell, Chad Brown

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

24:34 min | 4 months ago

Part 2: Michelle Lovell, Chad Brown

"Interviews with steve. We're back our to recapping. The weekend and richmond. Glory was front and center. Now it's funny. I was down for a week. And i only i only got to see rich for about three minutes As it happens It's got a weird Some some in the down by the winner's circle at i forget after which race but It was just kind of funny the way the it's funny that's what happens here. You get you know you get off the certain parts of the track or you you just y- end up even if your day's andy i saw andy literally for i think i only saw. When we ran into each other on the sixth floor he was coming down from his office. Down to the ground floor and we. We wrote the elevator. The that was on friday. I think so i barely saw a and while we wait for rich actually casey's Raising him We got a couple of couple of things that we can slip in and colluding. Ob s They wrapped up the under attack. yesterday Four days worth of breezes and now everybody gets a couple a days of evaluation before the sale starts on wednesday. So we'll certainly tomorrow Indoor wednesday we'll give you a little preview of of the last big opportunity to buy two year olds obese june and all the ratios All the breezes and the walks and everything else available. I was looking actually myself last night. once teen and i got back and there's something there's something actually to talk about with rich because he and i we talk about food too. Often and richmond joins us. And don't let me forget to tell you about something on the conic that that happened yesterday evening on the way home. We went to the bronx zoo yesterday by the way Yeah br brought the spencer and his two roommates and One of the roommates is from france and anya and she'd never been so. We went to the bronx zoo yesterday which it was a lot of fun. I mean. we'd love the zoo great so really a food. A holy cow. I i you have no idea maybe you do. And i don't know who is aware of this because it's a place that all of us have driven by a hundred times rally exactly. Yeah i know. Dylan the gravity ten miles from dylan to growly and i didn't realize you were that close that's fun. That's new columbia. Is it over is at columbia county. What county is that no. No it's it's i. i'm probably actually like fifteen miles from villain the growly. But if i come up with connick That's carpenter road that it's on. Yes exactly carpenter road exactly okay. So the next few ways to get to my place But i can get off the next exit. And i'm exactly fifteen miles which is What is it You know. I don't know names like they know how to do it. But the very next exit after carpenter road if i get off their sixty miles to my house if i go straight i can get off at route. Forty four If millbrook poughkeepsie and then like ten miles from my house but you know Actually we took root channel there for his birthday. And we you know. I you know i should have. I guess i should have brought this up sooner so you could've stopped on his travels. I didn't know if you want to. I've been. I've been driving by that joint for years and i don't know how long it's it's it was something. Before it became relic. It was much scrutiny with okay which kind of like a more bar scene. You know you get a lot of You know guys that people riding their motorcycles on weekends and they would hang out there but then the family that has it now bought it about four or five years ago and You one night i was. I was coming home carmelo away. You know it's like an cook and it was late. Let me just pop in here. Because i saw that they turned it into thai restaurant and got some takeout and the places phenomena we actually had them cater. Carmella had a that shelf years ago but he was crazy about which i never watched Game of thrones game macron. So she she had a big game of thrones party and have had a bunch of people. I went to that. I had no interesting of. We had been cater The party and no place is terrific. So funny you're right there. I was down belmont. That's funny. Because i i did not realize that you were you. Were that that close. I thought That's interesting i never really i. For whatever reason. I've never understood exactly where you were anyway. I i promise them. I told them. Last night i was going to absolutely Give them a push. And i would think that people going up to saratoga Because it's it's hard on the titanic because typically you have to go you know off that the conic and and into briar cliff or into chatham or the you know the go find some bring a great diner You get off. It's kind of get route fifty five and go west. Maybe at night even a half a mile the daily planet great dining daily well. And then if you're going to rock ridge go see laret and everybody there. There's also there's a couple of well that's where my greenacres for the apple pies. They open at the end of the month. greenacres great cosell's and there's also Mexican radio the mexican They got the two or three locations right mexican radio. I've never gone in there but there's supposed to be very good to be very very good so anyway there's that that course. Well there's also that golf course restaurant that ends up being farm-to-table joint that's further up before you get to like hudson and chatham and it's off off to the east of the tectonic and tina how we even found it. I don't know i'll i can't remember the name. I gotta go look through my notes. But anyway i got an update for you by the way about our ideas about our food book idea so remind me giving away a lot right now. Well that's right. Know it's it's an ever changing landscape and by the way before we do anything else here. I am talking about the you know the place up in hopewell junction. So if you're on your way to saratoga where you're on your way back. It's literally on the titanic. It's not literally not thirty yards off the titanic. You don't have to looking. It's right there Carpenter road and they've got nice website in the whole You get your maybe what four miles after Eighty four you know north of eighty four and exit right before it is route fifty two hope oprah junction and so if you coming up next you'll know that you're close when you get to those landmarks to keep an eye out for it well and that that also leads me to the The tribute that is required. And the thank yous To chiro and rosario and the boys For the king umberto Evening i was there all week. I was there. Virtually every day for lunch but Gary and i and josephine and tina Unfortunately camille and richie coche could not make it on saturday night. They were gonna come. But but Camille was under the weather But such a nice such a nice time and they did not get the brazil done rich. They they they did a different dish from me the chicken bow monte vic which was An ice lemon chicken breast and a lancaster no lobster tail a miniature and Shrimp with resort though and kind of a lemon sauce and tina had it and she. She was thrilled. That sounds really good. I know you got a great night. The brazil i had actually ended up. I had chicken. Rolla teeny but tina. It's funny tina had My dish and and josephine had gary's dish the swordfish and gary i ordered something else so funny so meanwhile i got done solely Every night except for yesterday which was great. I got home about six. Fifteen this but Thursday obviously we had a late show And i didn't get out of belmont so nine then friday. We did the belmont preview show And i got out of there probably about eight thirty and then on belmont night. I wound up leaving there about nine almost nine thirty And i just can't eat late so like on on thursday. I just you know i'm not gonna eat. It's too late 'cause i just not comfortable i don't feel well and then i can't i can't sleep. I am one of these people like after dinner. I need to take a walk and be a little active. And then i feel comfortable but if i eat at like eight o'clock at night i'm done. I'm just feel horrible. So i just didn't eat anything thursday nights and then. I made a decision when i was going to be late. Both those as that. I'm just gonna have a bigger lunch than i normally have for dinner so i didn't have dinner thursday friday or saturday night but i did. Have you know fairly big lunch. So when i got home last night carmella made me one of my favorite things. 'cause i was probably complaining that you know i couldn't eat dinner. And she made me soft. Shell crabs last night and then the way he does. It comes out really good. So i was so happy. Nice nice in fact Speaking of which getting gary. I think not last year but the year before the gary's dishes king of berta was the cio soft shell. Crabs ceac is up. So he's he's a hard shell crap. That's that's the misnomer crise crass It was terrific so thanks to thanks to rosario and and chiro and everybody Another fabulous belmont week Right there on on hempstead and Rich let's turn our Our attention to the action it was you know we had. We had a couple of difficulties. Obviously the weather impacted things a little bit But ultimately it smooth out we had a fabulous belmont ave maybe start with the feature and and then we'll talk about some other things but We had really a quality a quality display by to really nice sophomores. While you know. I mean that's the kind of belmont that you remember you know First of all you got to give so much respect and love for hot rod. Charlie i mean to to set the fraction t set listen. They had a plan. Their plan was to go to the lead and they executed their plan ultimately. I'm sure they would hoping they didn't have to go. That fast is secure the lead but you could see flavian. Pratt left the gate. Like i'm going you guys figure out what you wanna do. And i never have a problem with the writer doing that. And particularly when the whole teams on the same page and obviously they were so doug o'neill on the tunnel right after the race and basically said ran too good to lose your know gaga's who well we we ran ran raceway. We wanted to you know so You know i 'cause right away. People want to be critical. Well why do you go so fast. Well they had a plan and they almost pulled it off. But when you see fractions like that and the belmont stakes the first fast the fastest first quarter the history of the race sticks around. I mean he did not want to lose. So i mean just incredible. Respect for hot rod. Charlie and then your two year old champion just went out and does what he does. Every single time even in defeat in the derby he just goes out and tries his best and run side and it's got that relentless way about him and you know what stands out about him to me is a horse. he just pay attention to him. He's got this like laser like focus. He in the post sprayed in the past. He doesn't turn head to look at things he's always working straight ahead and it's almost like he's got tunnel vision he you know. I think as talented as he is he maximizes ability with that intensity that that focus that he has that you know people might say we're all good athletes have that it's different with him. He takes it almost to another level But i mean just a tremendous horse race and honesty even though it was a long way back to around our i. the best. Three horses in the race ran one three. I think i think it's fair. And you know the redemptive aspect of this. They have the derby favourite That you know that had not Not as pronounced the difficult trip as as some quarters Have you know have thought and stated You know just you know had had to overcome some challenges and fell just short the have him come back and win five weeks later that i think is good for the whole atmosphere of the three year. Old division An and i would have to think he's the he's the clear leader again At this point as we approach the midway point. I i said to eddie buyer rich that you know we've got a great situation. I know that most of the late additions to the scene I brought up the to west point. Horses flight line and first captain and then there's you know following see that The the todd had a chance to get to know with that win the other day and the brought up the other asmussen bowl. Liam is the one that andy was thinking of earlier. i think i think some of those are going to stay short and and look for things. You know like the allen jerkins and even the malibu at the end of the year. They're not necessarily going to rush into to turn opportunities but you get one. Oh nine one away from you. Know your belmont top pair and mandolin and midnight bourbon. And of course medina spirits gonna show up in the haskell. And i i think people feeling a lot better about this crop after saturday. I think you've really got to be excited about the second half of the year. And i think this crop is extremely deep and you know following theme ban. What kind of horse might he be. And you know talking with todd right after the race. I interviewed him. He feels very strongly that he's going to be better going for you. Know he the size and scope of them in the efficiency of the stripe that ethan. I guess he's pointing for the dwyer now. The travelers could be the race of the year. And the fact that you know. We've we've kind of come out of our cocoon with this pandemic and things are getting back to normal and that we're gonna have people. I mean this could be maybe the greatest drivers of all time from the perspective of the horses that are going to compete and the the enthusiasm from the fans that you know were deprived of that opportunity last year so this this could be just phenomenal. Summer i mean i'm so excited about the prospects for that well that will fall into place and Go from you know we'll go from there let's Work our way around the rest of the action and rich. I haven't really had a chance. I probably have steve asmussen join us tomorrow to talk about silver state. But here's a horse. That's absolutely streaking. And one thing that gets lost in not know not that the met got loss per se but one thing that might get lost considering that the by my standards didn't win Just how smart. It was for Gesture thomas and bret calhoun to divert from the steve sexton a second in this race and not just financially worth more than than a even a win In the steve saxton but In terms of the horses reputation and resume This counts for a lot and he didn't get much didn't get beat by much. And and you know Gabe sires getting. Adam left candidate and he gets drifted fairly severely. In you know it just took him a little longer than you've maybe would've liked to have seen for him to change his hands and correct the situation. And i don't know that he's gonna beat that horse under any circumstances but it might have been closer and i i agree with you. I think it enhances his resume certainly for second careers stallions immeasurably compared to run in the sexton all respect but the met mile is race that makes people stand up and take notice and he ran tremendous. How 'bout steve's and the met mile actually out of the last four. I mean you know an incredible and the next that guy might be right as a horse trainer. Well and this this this is a really. This is an interesting. Don't know if it's a case. Study per se but You know here's a horse that that really underwhelmed With the anticipation as a three year old last year. I mean they they try them in in in the series in new orleans and yeah. He was second behind enforceable that he was third behind. Mr monoploy In one of the two divisions then he absolutely didn't lift off in the louisiana derby. They paused on him and regrouped came a kind of it. I guess it is a case. Study look a rebuilt him with a couple of allowance tries and then at the beginning of the year in the in the innocuous fifth season. Then let's test ourselves against you know the little heavier heads in the essex then wins the oakland andy capp and now wins the met and they asked me does a great job for somebody who is thought of who for a long time. Rich was thought of as a precocious type of a horseman. He really has has now had a steady stream of these kinds of horses when you fold in volatile and matali in a horses that that did what they did is younger horses. And then when the clock clicked over to four Kind of you know. Lifted an elevated their game absolutely. I mean the biggest example of that to me was was gunrunner right. I mean the. Yep yup yup yup and you know it's funny when you talk to steve about training and horses and he and i have these conversations by the rail and saratoga. He always talks about having awards. Prepared for what you're asking them to do and that so if it's an area then knowing that you haven't prepared to do that and then this step so obvious it's going to get tougher. It's going to get deeper and having them continually be prepared for the next challenge. It's not fair to the horse to not to not have their best for that particular challenge and again making those incremental steps. It's going to get tougher so now we've gotta be a little bit fitter a little bit tighter have more confidence like you said. Rebuilding horses competence. You understand the desire by everybody when they have a good three zero to test the derby waters right to get on the derby trail. Got that little plug in but I just think that you know once you realize well this horse for whatever reason maybe he doesn't wanna go quite that far. Maybe he's just not mature enough to handle the rigors of that. Then you take a step back and regroup just what you're talking about. I think recognize that they give him their try to give him that opportunity and when they realize okay. Well that's just not for this particular horse. Now let's almost stop start over and and look at the results. And how many times do you see his horses with multiple races in a row. Like so state. Now like you'll get that formed cycle. They can hold that form cycle because of you know the the foundation they put into them. I used to write almost all michael hutchence's and you can go back. And we're talking different caliber forces a lot of claiming horses but if you go back through the history of his courses i can't tell you how many says i want five six seven eight races in role on russian because again one thing against him in that form cycle a have the ability to hold them in that form psych. Mike was also incredible. That you know having a twenty thousand dollar horse and kind of getting them in for ten and no one taking them and then you know they'd win for ten. Let's run them for fourteen. And then the psychology of it was well. Then someone's why could have him for ten last time. I'll wait till they drop back. And then they went for fourteen and then they'd went for sixteen and twenty some by the time they got to where they were supposed to be. They had already real real four wins and now they're actually in with the horses that could compete with them. Well and I brought this up. I brought this up with the horse. the was it last week or the week before that that The the jordan wyckoff and mike maker they claimed and ran back on on turf a couple of different times and then it turned out that wasn't the turf force ever at and he's now and you know he's now become a complete terror and I i it's it's remarkable. I mean look at. I just had the conversation with lee and bill was funny on saturday. he said. Maybe this was always that should have been going shorter. The whole time I it's you know it's one of those. Sometimes you don't know until you until you try. Well i was. I was a little mad at my my handicap than with kosta creed because i hate him and has made a mental note about his win in the allusive quality That was the last race. Straight seven eighths race. Yes yeah okay. So and and and there was no pace on at all and the way he came home. And i was like you know with that. Turn of foot. You know. the jaipur won't be a problem. I remember thinking that. And then in my hand i it got loss and the right after the race i went the when he finished that day with no pace had was going to get more legitimate. How do you miss that. I and it kind of blew up a couple of my my multi-race things and.

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Episode 325: Dr. Daller with Why We Feel So Tired ?!?

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

16:54 min | 2 years ago

Episode 325: Dr. Daller with Why We Feel So Tired ?!?

"How tired do I actually have to be doc before I realize I'm tired when my body tells me Damn you're tired get some rest? You know Captain Brian we as as human being homo sapiens. We started you know as as cavemen. We used to go to sleep when the sun went down. Used to wake up when when sunrise and we didn't have all the things that are going on. All the stresses everything else is going on we used to eat healthier. We was to sleep better. And and then we became you know we became more evolve. We add some fire around wheels on on on. This don't won't believe it or not only. Do we have any distractions. It's true that now you have two thousand dollar mattress and before you sleep on the floor but you today you know you have the television your if your your. What's going on in the news you have? What's going on with your kids? You're on the stress of in your bill. Your mortgage payments you if you have any issues. Don't even catch before shooting and and catching that was the that was before we wear gatherers movements. And we if you think about it like that it wasn't that bad then it wasn't like was that bad but again we leave. This is a reality show. We live in the present. We don't even the past and you know this is not science science fiction and we don't live in the future also so this is a podcast about the president. What what does it mean? I'm exhausted tired. I hear that all the time captain by do what percent of the population in America is exhausted. I ninety five percent believe it or not. It's forty eighty percent of the people. Say they'll all the dine tired. I'll retire I'm dialogue. I'm tired I don't say that I don't i. Don't ever get that you you don't. It's true and I never heard that for me. I never seen yawn. I really never seen you on AM I. You know you. You are unique foot when it comes to that but but you know you you keep yourself you exercise. I see the by guys. You're going to the gym. I still doing that stuff. You try to analyze of course. Of course we'll talk about one thing died. What what can we do to increase our energy level and what happening why why oh energy level goes down so first of all there is? There's something in this country we talked about it in a different bed. PODCAST and that might quandary makes something called eighty. That's the power source of the bonding. As as we age as we age the amount of eighty p the production of eighty decreases so the functionality that might quandary decreases for what can we they do to increase that. And what what are some of the causes of decreased energy and when should you go to the doctor. When should you change your lifestyle? What you I should do? I have friends. They're always all I'm exhausted. I so tired. I'm going to take a nap today. Map I don't even understand it. How do they just get so tired? They navigate catch up. What are you what are you gonNA do? And you don't want to sign when you wake up in the morning if you wake up after six seven hours of sleep and you say to me. I'm tired I'm exhausted allston. There's a problem. Do you understand that you just slept seven hours right. Why are you exhausted something? There's there's something big salt water. Some of the things that can be fixed easily. Isn't he for example hormonal imbalance. Okay so let's talk a little bit about hormone. We've making a too difficult. There is a hormone Paul. Cortisol Cortisol is a stretch for so when you are stressed out your hormone cortisol goes up. When cortisol goes up stocks thrown was down the doctor on his associate? Why are you speeding? What's going on is scant rocks? Jump on those rocks all my sandblasted car that you see those on. You're listening to the PODCAST. We're sitting in a car here and company. Brian is going crazy. I don't say what speed that they go crazy doing. Okay Okay Oh oh. He's not tired the fatigue but in any rate it's all testosterone goes down. Winter stole thrown. Goes Down you feel tired. Testosterone is the hormone eve in your energy that you've ulaby will give you desire ability to focus the concentrate. These are very very easy things to change. There is another hormone melatonin. Tony Tony we talked about it and Melatonin pills so those unfortunately they don't work very well so the best ways to increase your natural Melatonin. How do you do that sleep hygiene? Where the whole podcast that? Everybody should listen about sleep. By Jesus part two Kinda that's it is part three or four say it's ramble rumble all seven you'll remember Sylvester Stallone. Hey so this is exactly like that. So we saw Melatonin is being secreted when we are in the dark when you we are going to sleep. Sleep and mill opponent is a SIM s extremely important for our circadian rhythm for the rhythm of sleep for the Rim sleep and everything else so everything ebb. Keep it cold dark. And really know stresses sex and sleep. That's the only thing that occur in the bedroom. Okay so then couple hormone that we like to check estrogen. Estrogen is known as the female hormone although every guy has some estrogen estrogen also is important and again these are easy hormone to check so we talked about this tall thrown. We've talked about estrogen. Would we talked about the cortisol and we talked about Dan Melatonin and other hormone that is extremely important in thyroid hormone so high but what are we going to tell the viewers watching listening right now. They know they hear all these keywords. I here too. But what the Hell's going to help them sleep. Or what are they gonNA do to get more rest salt first of all if you're not giving the as if the problem is sleep hygiene loosened or podcast and and very briefly called room sixty nine degrees darkroom. Nothing not even the smallest slight no night light. No nothing like that. No television in the room. The Blue Light Ninety little. Led Jonah. Today nothing never devolved. You'll cover them. Make sure you don't. It does break all these roles and and again and trying if you are looking at your phone half an hour before you bet and I know you come to mind because I see on instagram. The ground you see you look at that time enough and facebook and all that stuff stop. Stop half an hour before at least half an hour before give yourself a break is a break. Then there are some special glasses that blue light glasses that hell Lord than the amount of intensity in your phone as well. These are on easy tricks the door. I mean I'm not talking about coming to my office will come into your doctor's office and checking out the stalls thrown level. You should if you feel fatigue if you wake up in the morning. I'm I'm exhausted. You should check your the story wake up in the morning and you say I'm so tired I just need to rest arrested that that's not right. That's all right nothing around all. You shouldn't be active. You should want an also if you feel like you don't feel like doing certain activities that you love doing you say you know what Kevin Brian. I know every Saturday and Sunday on your bike. If you don't feel like doing we'll talk on Captain Bryant. Right how come you don't feel like doing going on your bike. You love the normal things like that and feel having those feelings go see you. That's right they have to do that. And they have to check on the day's not sleep is not going to help them feel that refreshing anymore. Correct they've already passed limits of the syllabi. Maybe this overslept. Slept yet dover already overslept and you know depression you know depression huge. There's so many people depressed now if you are we if you have sleep disturbances you don't sleep enough. You become depressed if you don't you become depressed. You don't sleep enough which one comes first. I don't know but it really doesn't matter. The depression person is something that we have to heat hand on see. What is the corporate waltz? The root causes of depression and get to the bottom of that nor just pills. See what is the the problem. Why are you depressed? What is what is the problem that we can help you? And instead of just giving you pills it could be that at the beginning will give you pill just to get over the Hump but later on we need to get to the bottom of what's been going on and medication. Medication side effect. I mean a lot of our patients are taking a bunch of medications. Some of these medications one of the scientific these fatigue tiredness Cetera et CETERA. So and you're taking multiple medications interact with each other. That's also a big big big problems. So here's one that I had that we are big fan of drinking a lot of coffee but the Coffee Kathy will keep you awake well. I don't drink coffee before you go to bed. Drink coffee in the morning at lunchtime. You know after six five six. Am Don't drink coffee. Even though you know in Italy Evan Espresso and they it was because it's the smallest. It's not the big juggle fan. You know one of these aim at Dunkin donuts or starbucks coffee Aids uh-huh so so it's on all about portions so medication side effect we. We did not talk today about anemia. So decreasing the iron iron deficiency fuel if your diet is not up to par and can do that one a little iron pills so I wanted to closed. y'All know no they're not use less and iron works only prominent Myron build their side effect the main side-effect of Iron Billy's conservation. So you know it's plugs you up big time. Yeah of course of course iron pill plugs you off so so again if your diet is is a healthy diet you. You don't need the iron pills but but chick chat funding. It's easy blood test. which is funny meal and lack of activities Captain Brian? It's counterintuitive but when are you exhausted go to the gym when you go to the gym endorphin goes up all of a sudden you increase your muscle. Mass increase your muscle mass going to increase might function. You're going to increase eighty. You're going to have more energy along the Inca to store natural testosterone level. And so walking out when I come out of the gym I feel alive again right. You get a lot of energy lola. It's not just You're not exhausted to the fact that you WANNA sleep. You don't have that exhaustion. Feeling that exhaustion feeling is not the same as be running a marathon in at the end of it saying I'm tired. They have this feeling of earned that right they have earned that this this a completely different type of tiredness. Yes that's A. As a matter of fact most people after Maryland. They don't feel like going to sleep. There still have their high. That's Dole is endorphins but but but at the end of the day you know somebody's laborer some of the work in the garden halls some of the works and he works for eight thousand nine hundred hours a day off crossings tired after that. That's normal but I'm talking about somebody that you know is an accountant working in L. A.. Crunching numbers any works for a few hours. And he's I'm exhausted. I mean it's one thing if if you dig holes outside and ninety five degrees versus being my account and and and crunching numbers. There's a big difference and saw stress. You know Captain Brian. We had full podcasts about stress. Stress is you you know today stress that we have we we started the podcast. By saying about stresses that we have between payment and the kids aides in the mortgage school and and all of them and car accidents and text messaging and non stop on and on and on. And then you know politicians petition. God forbid you talk about them these I mean you name it. I mean you have stress about what's going on in in around the world what's going on all over the place from all. Aw You're twenty seven you know. When we grew up there was one hour of news to watch and that was it today? Twenty four seven in one day you know maximized the you know the the the blood that is going on bare salt some minimized at realize it is not important to your life. It really does not affect captain. Brian what is he going to do today. What's going on in Syria? Really doesn't affect you directly right so you know what stick with what's going on around you. You know your kids your parents your your your immediate surrounding your friends. But what's going on right now in in in some countries the far far away don't affect you and you don't get excited over and saw a poor diet you know we we have a whole podcast about about eating everything you eat processed for you feel crappy you eat. The the sugary drinks you'll feel crappy hall happens when you take a lot of sugar in and then you feel afterwards afterwards. You have that down. You know that doesn't help you know you'll have that crushed after after you eat sugar you feel high for about a couple of minutes and then and you feel down that day that it's very difficult to bring up again so that's also very very important and I want to talk talk about how to get the boost. You started by mentioning coffee and we had the whole podcast. Talking Great podcasts. About coffee really enjoyed that podcast for wherever you listen to it now. I just make everyone drink coffee every time I get an extra copy all you gotTa Drink Mokaba up. Drinking coffee has is my goal to every morning I drink sued three cups of coffee. Black Awesome Ray coffee and you know what else cut down if you drink alcohol during Weinstein. It's not a good idea. You know cut down on you know on call his dessert for happy occasion. How goal is deserved for as a as an a something something that will You know the social smoother the social lubricant and but don't drink too often and overall diet the Diet you know very very healthy. What about when people say they want to have a glass of wine before they go to bed or they WANNA have? Don't recommend that. I know that it does not help you that we you'll fall asleep but you want stay asleep same airplane we should know a podcast. One time about how to really enjoy the the flight. You can enjoy your flight to enjoy a flight than how to sleep on the plane. Everybody that flies a lot any frequent flyer will tell you. Don't drink too much before you go on the plane. Drink plenty of water. Hydrate yourself so another thing. Is hydration extremely extremely important healthy diet extremely important practicing we all that Yoga and meditation. We had the whole podcast about that. We know we should do it. Maybe another one about yoga. You'll have you had the podcast with somebody on. Your guy really really enjoyed a year ago. That was a great podcast and eliminating stress. Exercising Meditation. All these things is extremely dreamed extremely important in captain everything they told you now cost nothing and this broadcasting on how much it costs to listen to it. Nothing's free all the good things delightful. Nothing I know. It's all good stuff but the key that they would they wanna get across to the people that are watching all the people watching the podcast today is what should they do so they if they have that feeling. What's the best thing to do at this point? So if you feel that these feelings feelings are persistent. It's not a one time occurrence if you feel like you know what I feel like. I'm tired all the time. I may not me. I don't feel like oh you should come and see me or go. See a primary care doctor. Get some get some labs said get some labs done specifically hormones. Labs then see what's going on. Check that you're not anemic and if you're getting nowhere progressing doctor. We talked about the show. Progressive Doctor Doctors. That Vince stop learning in medical school. They continue to learn all the time and they evolved they change with time and saw ghost the progressive daugther doctor and see what what we can do to Newark to get together fixed. Crank it up all right guys. Thanks for watching the captain's log. Listen we're going going to be all week so tune in we get a big big lineup coming your way and don't forget to give us a good radio show. Of course if Dr Dali gotTa Give Them Five Stars sending your questions questions we'll have answers and it's free doesn't cost you anything. Just send them You could find you on instagram dollar. The dollar Andy. CAPP Bryant handed C._A._p.. T. B. R. E. N.. This is the captain's log guys. Thanks for watching. We'll be back.

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Part 3:  Rich Eng

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

26:00 min | 2 years ago

Part 3: Rich Eng

"Fall season and the lead up to breeders cup at santa anita rich good morning good morning steve rich doesn't doesn't doesn't take long to get keyed up when you pull a cart like friday as opening day and other times of the year opening they might just be a nice a nice weekday card this with two grade once plus the cd and the rest of that action really you yeah put the spurs right to the start of the season yeah the q. i've got a lot of interesting i think a lot of voice players horse racing fans handicappers have interested because we like to see the babies and then we start making judgments and it's never too early to think about the road to the kentucky oaks and the kentucky derby as distant as that the target may seem the time melts away really fast as we go through a week after week month after month raising well already even with the start of the churchill the meat here leading into keeneland all all it took was was dennis's moment iroquois to get everybody that was the first that was the first point those are the first point races the pocahontas and the to get going and it is funny that as keyed up when it comes to the two year olds as you are for the for the breeders cup juvenile juvenile fillies and turf races it really is the first the first thing that everybody's mind you get through the champagne and the breeders cerny and keeneland and we'll see about this american pharaoh tomorrow the pharaoh is got the added intrigue league about about eight rings and you know the disastrous ducking out in the gap that he did at at del mar and so you know even even before people are thinking next step they're wondering about the first step you know it's interesting that bob baffert is opted to fly in john velazquez the right couple of is nice two year olds and i think even bob baffert just thinking long term that he's got so many calls it got so many phillies that obviously the same jockey they can't ride all of his horses so he's he's already shopping around for jockeys so to speak even though john wall ask is new detroit's being up already in the hall of fame and you wins great ones like like nobody's business but it'll be interesting interesting to see and you talk about aid rings obviously his bad behavior cost him any chance to win the last time out bob africa outstanding horseman as he is i'm sure they've tried different types of equipment on cruise whatever you know in the mornings try to if you don't make sure that is not happening again 'cause this horse has a tremendous ability obviously well how much work have you done on tomorrow's card in all honesty i have not i have looked at the two year old racing but i have not done much work on the rest of the card of course that is really interesting to me out of the two races is the shipper from steve ashby's and in the american pharaoh it's that's the number seven hundred shoplifted i've had my eye on him for a while and the i'm really interested to see the joel rosario is opted to to give up a day of racing back east to come out and ride this horse receive as using the head three nights two year olds come out of the whole full and who's able oh separate all three one's going in the champagne one's going the breeze charity gala and this one was shipped west and i'm curious yes i haven't seen any reasons for why steve sent any particular one of his two year olds to any particular race but sometimes when you see something like this steve a horse is coming from another part of the country to to traveling to another part of the country can prove a kind of yardstick a barometer or you know how how that crop from one section of the country might shape up against another part of the country so having shoplifted coming we'll be very interesting to me too shall we runs against it rains so point no doubt and it's funny you you and my my pal bits the the the racing office at santa anita had printed out the overnight and vince texted me what prices shoplifted gonna be all excited about shoplifted himself i got a chance to this morning actually i kinda dig through it a little bit and the ad i incorporated the third graph figures because they came out yesterday saturday a couple of days ahead here and just looking at those figs as a means another yardstick american theorem and john white yesterday also echoed this the george papa pedro mo- bruce kratz worse it that performance stacks up very well with eight rings as debut the the buyer standpoint or eleven points between them there are only separated by two points on third graph basically american theorem ran a six and a half eight rings ran a four and these are two year olds and their volatile and they improve proven rapid rates and i don't know you got to turn questions here with almost everybody express restrain went to turns in that explosive win who else has gone only only only leaks restaurant is the only horse that's gone through turns in this group the trend nowadays to bring the two year olds to start them later in the year and to be more patient with them so certainly that does not surprise me that so few of them have to turn experiences because the the way the scheduling the way the timeline is with these two roles as the moved through the winter and spring twenty kentucky derby the kentucky oaks is up nope they walk through development to to happen naturally so you know going back to american sarah my certainly very much a number that that debut racing recent the pre-race hysteria about this horse literally one was i i thought the horse won despite being incredibly green and just the you know kind of acting like you know what's going on here and finally went in the stretch ronnie kind of figure it out at least part of the the job volvo or a racehorse he started to gallop away from the field very positively and the other angle too is you know bob baffert gets so many of the nice two year olds especially out in southern california i think is the crop material said he starts with gorse almost the entire collection of all the other trainers combining southern california but let's see mister perot get an ice to your like this i'm not sure if this horse will get the same respect for example the force was trained by bob baffert the morning on choice you not be five might be three you know so from course player better handicap point of you you actually you have no issues with the trainer and you actually when it gets more para mutual value on the thing is and and one of the beauties and one of the things that's that's kind of nice is the size of this field and because there are at least two others express train and collusion illusion that are are well within hailing distance of eight rings an american theorem era and shoplifted so you're not limited to just the obvious players and and you look at a horse collusion illusion had the nice successful successful debut winds at five furlongs comes back wins the best pal for mark latte and goes from five to six furlongs in that spot what and and one well he's twirling candy out of a first dude mayor and you know what i that's interesting i think this may be the first this may be the the first horse that i've seen that is out of a first dude mayor with him as the broodmare sire and dont disney actually bred colt and so there's some of the the tie in with i do interesting i hadn't noticed this previously that that he was out of a first dude mayor so there's plenty of distance pedigree also horse that successfully raided going in short he's gonna he's five to one in the morning line but he's not going to be five to wonder post i feel the same things they said about mr bush but drama i could probably say about mark class i mean they're both really good trainers is your follow the southern california horse racing circuit you know these fellows win in a lot of reasons with the stock at they have but neither of them is a in the national scope on the national radar so you know people in simulcast komo cash markets when they look at it like american jerem or collusion illusion lewis might be allowed to go off at a tick or two higher than if it was trained by doug o'neill or more about bastard or something like that so i think the heart what you say because i've seen this horses raises a lot of ability and five to one is certainly earliest square price in this this is going to be a lot of fun to borrow a post time is seven thirty eastern four thirty pacific for are the american farrow and we haven't even talked about a horse like defense wins that was a horse that doug he's still a maiden a horse that doug o'neil even before he started when we were talking to doug probably in june or mid july and we started talking about a bit of a you the del mar a preview and defense wins was one of the horses that that he absolutely said was you know he was excited was going to be ready for the summer he you know he's got what looks on paper to be to middling efforts there solid if unspectacular spectacular and against two of the winters you know that are lined up here collusion illusion beat him in the debut and nuxie beat him in the second start i it is a horse that for all we know maybe just dying to go to jersey he's by flatter out of silver charm there the the very nice serbs charm in fact so i you know i'm looking forward to this as much as anything the entire weekend the girls race i did not come up nearly as as intriguing with basta john white said he was going to baker three to five let me give everybody the rundown on the rest of those prices because john was firming things up what we talked to him yesterday american theorem from the rail with pereira five to one four left another horse of o'neill's that o'neill expected nice things from early on fifteen to one mario it's eras blinkers come off of both american theorem and for left blinkers go on eight rings to try to keep him focused with jani nine to five express train for john sheriffs who who used to be able to win early and then the focus kind of came away from it early in his career we've talked to john about that when he was training for five o. five he was notorious for winning i out and then it became less of a priority with some of the clients you're more familiar with the sheriff's having these days but he can absolutely gear up a young horse express train four to one storm the court who of course was the the other injured party already not physically but in terms of what transpired in that del mar futurity fifteen to one with flavian pratt for peter and then you jump out to defense winds fifteen to one shoplifted six to one ten to one collusion allusion five to one a really neat way to start the weekend def american pharaoh seven thirty tomorrow night i would like to make a couple of points if before move off this race keep on that you mentioned offense wins that i believe it's a maiden still in this race but you know in two year old racing you do see maidens winning stakes races and two year old and a two year old condition because sometimes it just happens trainer trainor noses horseheads ability for whatever reason the horses lost the first maybe second third starts of his career but he knows at this horse has a high i feeling in any particular and if that's the case when you see a maiden at a two year old maiden stakes race that that is it's a mistake take to the automatic draw through that horse there's a reason why that horse race look a little deeper under the hood the second point i wanted to make before moving being honest the number eight horse nutty i talk about this you probably will not get much respect because the stakes that nutty one was the race that eight rings things are active battery and through drayton van dyke so i think a lot of people mike tend to downplay the win by nike also they might see the fact that was actually ran in on a maiden claiming race with the you know nutty is going to get a chance to for peter melody show that he's legit and he belongs in the same conversation with these itself that's the worst you'd probably walk a lot of value because of the rate that would lead rings race you mentioned let's go let's take a glance at the chandelier that we'll talk about the eddie and and what we're looking forward to on saturday the only horse that that at least from a from numbers power from from figure wise th that it looks to be in the area code is that lia lee look wow lacordaire boothia likud likud leli we've coffee coastal frank mir mighty well i'm anxious for anxious for frank to the we'll see how frank deals with antigone as well on saturday i saw antigone and and i mentioned this makes us for frank tackle it we'll have gone but this one you the look this up actually what what the references that performance when when she was dropped down into bayden sixty two five company and she you know she just absolutely exploded romped and then you know got that actually in the debutante and dropped anchor so that performance though that ninety one fire in the main breaker is really the only thing that that competes more or less with with bast so i looking at it that way just feels like it just feels like drain van dyke takes control of this race race you know there's not a lot of speed here either we talked yesterday with john about the pace scenario rich when it came to the american farrow and i made the point that it's so unusual to have two year old races two year old stakes where so few especially in california where so few you were horses you know that run on the point i was kind of stunned by that have looked at these two races into is affiliated john velazquez also picked up from bob baffert so you know johnny's gonna he could i'd be sitting pretty after after friday's over i guess i wanted to the direction i wanted to go with you know efforts to is so so loaded with two year olds fillies and colts i just wanted to throw a name out there that i know when it comes to the the breeders cup but you're gonna phillies race i i saw the horse actually make the list of the daily racing form as far as the possibles for the breeder's cup juvenile fillies but it's a baffert it filling in the quality response who is a two to one stakes last time out and but has not gone turns yet but but i've been so impressed by this horses ability so far with the pedigree certainly since the torch should be able to get the two turns and i think when you come to the previous couple or it's like this without the to experience might end up being a huge price so that's a the neighbor wanna for out there for people to put in their forces to watch list or in the back of their mind is all about africa role filling in quality response from last from last week at at low sal and then we get to the eddie d at the i made the suggestion asturian rich yesterday about the the trimming back the trimming back from the downhill course and there are there are some horses that benefited and the one in fact i had this discussion russian with mark latte and clad glatt was in a weird position because eddie haskell was going to benefit from the fact that there was no more downhill downhill racist being carted and i'm gonna forget who the other a player was that preferred the six and a half so i mean there are horses that are gonna benefit you put this group together during the eddie dee and eddie haskill pee wee reese stormy liberal and mr vargas look like the the ford to work around i don't think we can discount brian corner and samantha siegel with this mr vargas i mean that that race that he ran down at del mar surprise some people but i watched it again yesterday he looked he looked strong and we're not gonna have to worry about horses wanting the front end and the cd tomorrow the one hundred percent show and you know i i really hope that when we get back to december twenty six anita for the day after christmas i missed the winter spring meet i really hope that a reintroduced to six and a half for a long races down the hill i know the reasons and i think most of your listeners i know why they stopped carting them last of meat and also they're not gonna have any six and a half just me but it is really l. e. one of the most exciting courses in the united states he only course we have a right turn on the grass and actually cross over the main track and it's the tricky course and unfortunately some jockeys every sometime occasion of difficulty riding the course but i think for the fans point of view i think is an outstanding outstanding condition you know distance to run out and the difference between five for a long on the grass and successful hill that's it's a huge difference the the like always like eddie haskell like you just said would benefit greatly from the five furlong in i think this is a race deavere sure i think that if i read the the daily racing form list of the problems impossible for the race i think the they had this morning i'm favorite a horse from overseas she's called the tash if i pow said rockley correctly but they had that horses the morning line favorite for a brewed cup tur- spent so that'll be interesting that take a look at the maybe some of the always well of course comes out of the international the international scene and ask getting et cetera and one of the one of the top globetrotting turf sprinters we'll see who who ends up who ends up showing up you pointed out of baffert horse i watch with quality response i mentioned yesterday we had a chance to dig into the PP's magic on tap is back act two seconds off the long layoff and should be that much tighter in that seventh race going the mile and cutting back from the mile and a sixteenth adding blinkers however when andy capp this this seventh race on the rail for doug o'neill julius my grandfather's name julius he runs back to that starter allowance obviously that he that he robbed del mar in july it was a starter e one off he was even money less than even money four to five actually and then was behind magic on tap last time but to some degree you wouldn't be you know you wouldn't expect expect you could come to expect a bit of a regression off of a career-best the but he runs back to that race at del mar he'll be toughened here so just a you know after what was a horrifically frustrating winter season obviously at santa kantha nita where just just became possible to play really rich at all pretty exciting being way to start these these i do ecards tomorrow and saturday hopefully knock on wood it gets gets things you know out of the blocks fast and safe and clean and looking forward to tomorrow i think like all of us in the business is especially those who follow you know southern california racing closely i think we're all excited about this meet atlan anita the two tracks that operated after the need to be closed in the springtime alameda del mar did outstanding work especially in the area of safety there were there were very few reported problems at those two tracks i know that some of the handle sticks have have not been great coming out of this but i think it's it's part of the having to rebuild the confidence of the players again and so i think both of them did a great job you know taking the baton and moving the moving the chain so to speak moving forward and now it's up to you to keep that positive negative positive momentum but not only safe racing if if things come you know come the oil here great news about the torch tracking it's and i read that they put in the new system that you know once once people have the confidence back i think they're bankrolls will start with the follow to you

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Ep36: Retchless & Jonathan-less

Rocks Across the Pond

1:11:03 hr | 2 years ago

Ep36: Retchless & Jonathan-less

"Yeah Hey everybody welcome to rocks we essentially try to figure out a couple of spills to back to back in Canada so they come for a week and due to spills here with that they're playing down in England later this year Jonathan Right now is in Ontario with his new team playing in a couple of spills into playing playing down in England with Jonathan of all people so funny story I was a member of the Royal Canadian Curling Club in Toronto and another Jonathan Haber Kroft he is not here it's it's me me without Jonathan probably for the first time since we've done this podcast but hey are you able to play last year I couldn't I had a team here on -Tario but then this year when our team our team broke up a three we do have someone here if we can't have Jonathan I guess we can have his skip so Jonathan has a new team that he's playing there a few years back Lisa Farnell you may of her she's been on the show she has awesome I missed that episode but I'll have to go back and listen she was Canada most of your entire life I assume right that's the that's right that's right yep so how how did you get get wrangled in Jonathan is not here because he and the rest of his team decided to rent a cabin in the middle of the woods and do some team bonding none of which Klis from Toronto Ontario Rob Thank you for joining us nice to be here yeah I got out of that part because I had to work I had to work this week so there verano so how did how did the head of the off season plan come together on how to attack this season before before playing town lots of logistics we it was the plan from them from then obviously there's a little bit of logistics to work out with I guess what three of them being in England in the new being in I want to know about nor do we want to talk about on the podcast but we will bring along Jonathan Skip who somehow got out of having to go to the cabin in the Woods Rob Ritchie the crickets great time of year to be to be in the woods in Canada So how did so you are you've lived in about her plan to move to England and to play to play in England and I mentioned to sort of off the cuff sort of randomly that I had a citizenship there because my dad was born in northern England so it just came up I believe FM drink one day it came up in conversation and then Greg called me out of the blue last year and sort of said days later Greg called out of the blue saying hey what about this year and I was able to say that the timing is awesome let's give it a shot are so what would keep the flying to a minimum and then we got the K. W. Fall classic out of the way last week such a good good try for us we are two and three for the weekend one game here in and then a spiel or two in an sort of the Europe area followed by play down so we were GONNA do sorta keep one one or two trips for the group there are enjoying a cab four in Perth I think it is I have no idea where that is somewhere between here in Ottawa Ottawa I can only Eddie what on earth are they doing this week just in the woods by themselves or the you wanting a case of beer is probably involves some good food I'm sure and Ottawa and you curled with any of these guys before so the meeting was this or was this just a complete leap of faith final see how this goes kind of thing who's playing third on the team last year he was skipping the team agreed to come over for a for a Bonfield the last minute in March last year as we came to the royals men's could've gone differently for us to have made the playoffs as a first showing for us I think we're really happy with that in the next week we're playing at the Moosehead fall classic in and we had a great run we lost their first game but rattled off four straight after that to win the beside so it was really really good good I first pairing and so after that we we so the beginning of his leap of faith I expressed interest but then we sort of said hey how can we do a trial run to this in Greg done we talked about that weekend we talked about goals we talked about the future talked about English curling biros eight euros all all the fun stuff I'll legit played front hit in front end for him in there there's obvious reasons why it's because I'm not good at curling so what what's it like skipping Jonathan it's funny you know we sit here but it's a great great group guys and I'm looking forward to it I have not had I've never skipped Jonathan I've always played third so what's the reaction did you guys showed up to the K. W. Classic and instead of you being with US team representing Ontario all of a sudden you were representing England what was the what was the reaction I imagine you've played in that field before as a team that was playing out of Ontario glad it even for my curiosity what's it like skipping Jonathan will the professor appeal is actually a perfect moniker he can throw them pretty well I think I'd have to argue with his ability to be receptive and and take suggestions on on strategy maybe it's my bedside manner rehired and he made a lot of rock move you know he's really really takes feedback he's very receptive play together for five games but MHM and it and it's and you know the rest is history we're we're giving it a shot now I met John for the first time this past weekend and James lead have done however many episodes were it's just Jonathan I talking back and forth and we kind of just have to take Jonathan's word for it on how good of a curler he is and what he's like on the ice but I guess so far so good good delivery good solid delivery of the stick so that's always it's always what you're looking for his escape some read off I don't know playing third from him quiet so far I I think it's possible some people are talking cut behind the scenes but directly to face it's been it's been fairly positive and fairly of step away from that and choose to go this completely other route so I think in Ontario tears really hard struggle every year what was were you guys being looked at like you had three heads or what was the reaction there I think there are a few people were like Oh my God that's amazing great opportunity decided one year we're GONNA do this we're going to go all in and damned if they didn't qualify for a couple of slams in then sweep through Ontario Tom and Ian who's not here this this for this trip but he's involved as well he's our lead as well as we're we're going to do is sort of an alternation leader lead second we haven't quite figured out that yet go go for it there are some of the people who kind of just shrug their shoulders whatever you know I don't know it's been it's been quite um we're really focused on on winning England and really focused on developing as a team and doing well at the rose if we can win England you know walking since then I mean you've play you've played in Ontario play down so what was what was what was your mindset what was the I mean you've in the end I I just had a second kid he's five months now and I have a two and a half year old and curling every weekends you know the sort of the stuff you need really sort of the goals are are not not as time consuming they're still require the same level of of commitment they require the same level of practice but I think a lot of curlers feel that there are the folks who are able to give their whole lives to it and I just haven't been one of them so you know that I think that was part of the decision right we we actually curling for this team we're actually gonNA be playing slightly less as for competitively speaking were not really chasing the points coaching level of practice level of funding is not something that I've ever been lucky enough to get or to to have an I go back to that focus and the last two years have been awesome I really love the team I was playing on a great group of guys and we we stayed together for the three the four of us oh I don't want to say that Scott MacDonald came out of nowhere he didn't but you had a team that maybe wasn't as well known obviously as a lot of other teams in Ontario that it's not the slog that that competitive curling in Ontario can be was there a was there a thought in your mind too you know maybe go for it because I don't you've been kind of their to wear your your you know your your tournament away from playing for the brier like what what was it like to the split focus between career and and curling certainly at Korean curling in life So we could have done that I think the team I had last year is probably the yeah fairly supportive because because as we said on the show before it's not like you're some nobody you've as you infamously have pointed out several times since we've been stay together for two years three of the forms have been together for three that's a pretty good run and you know we really we really loved curling together but we had different different goals on various teams throughout the last ten years multiple times and each time one year you have you have a great year doing severe mainly have that life curling career balance who maybe aren't able to get out there and playing every week if we you to go after points to potentially qualify for slams and all that stuff is just not something I could do at any at this point in my life and I have been trying to do that for out west and you just don't qualify in any of them and it's like I mean that happened that happened to me twice with three hundred teams and it's it's hard right and it's the level of so every year the goal for each team that I've been a part of the last ten years has been let's make the Ontario tank that's been the goal and is those people than the sports endanger you have to have those people who were that that you know middle class of curler that's the more competitive club curler like what what motivation do you downs and make the brier not not not out of nowhere but there were definitely not favored going into that week so after seeing what they did was ever baby I dunno was there was ever something inside of you that may be said you know maybe maybe that can be us if we completely go for like they did a man like I've we've made that decision he's been Utah he talks about this all the time you know but the good news is we still have the play downs for the brier the dream is still alive you could go and rattled while with limited success so we've we've been close but I think that that that effort that next level of effort that I've just never been able to put in because of career in life best team that had the best chance to succeed at that had we really given it are all but given given my situation with just couldn't do it it's the people like yourself that were in danger of losing and pearling because of the hyper focus on the Olympics it's those people who Jimmy Yeah so you you said before that there's probably a lot of curlers like you in Jonathan and I have said this so many times that I'm sure people are tired of hearing it it's off a good round robin score or record and and win the playoffs and make it to the bar any team can do that still have to have a good week so as long as you've set ourselves up for that really focusing on on the balance of let's go let's go into some spills we you know we can win go into some spills we know we can qualify and let's let's do one or two a has there been a decline in until people entering play downs and stuff like that absolutely I just rambled off their into a different trajectory using being in an unreal like that it's incredible last year the the past two years it's been you know the best weeks of my life terms of curling oh now you enter to catch two sets of cash bills six hundred dollar entries to qualify and I think that's scaring some people off but on the flip side it's making sure that Alan Ge- so there's a they're adding other things other events that will that are trying to fill that void but it doesn't it doesn't mean that or doesn't that's GonNa be hard and I think teams that are in that are there were in my situation who really can't do that next level dedication or maybe so that you know that's interesting right if you made the Canada Cup that thing that determined to went to the world every year that would it it makes it makes us when you know when you kind of maybe in the back of your mind know that you're not going to be that slam level team like what motive what motivates you to keep out there and doing or is it is simple as adding more spills or is it more complicated than that I think it's more complicated I think the COLETTA regret I'll ever forget so have you noticed a decline in the kind of teams like the ones you were on like is there on -Tario maybe during the trip somewhere and you think you're we're going to break through and you do the next year you enter all the hard ones or the OAKVILLE ones in the cells and that you travel for maybe roots of curling part of the they've they've added the the travelers which is the club Curling Championship There's a couple of other ones in Ontario now at the site called the clubs that you know the the the people who are playing serious so you've got these these competing interests I don't know I think the GR- and they're introducing the the grass Ontario too and in specifically in Toronto because we see the headlines of clubs closing most most of them attached to two they just strung it together and did did when it took anybody can do that still got some other teams like that that come up like Brenton Bernard watchers teams another good example. I mean there's there's been a couple of different schools of thought I mean some people have talked about making the candidate Cup the place where elite curlers go and bringing the brier back to the grass roots I don't think we're going there I think you want to set themselves future year but aren't there yet it's about that balance and it's about that goal of making the Ontario tankred is it feels like the brier baby make your class of curler not feel like it's getting farther away is there anything that can be done to strengthen that that middle class of I realize your question was was about was about this sort of this sort of tier of curling disappearing it's true I mean if you look back in the last ten years consistently the number of teams and alive I think the team should should still do it you know but I the formats of our which are what's making tricky now I think the we've moved to these cash spills oh McDonald's last year in in in the year they turned their entire world upside down yeah they'd they'd invested over the years all of those players had played around the tour for many years on they just just by investing the time doing some travelling they have a slightly easier road to the bar but it's it's still they they're still having good success and good record I do WanNa talk about curling in single one of our leagues is full and it has been that way for the last six years we have no more room for growth we we've tried some things to squeeze they they kind of came out of nowhere onto the world curling tour and have had great success some eastern teams are having some success to just by it's everyone's still wants to go to the brier that's still the dream right it's just getting farther away for people like his is there well is there anything that you think can be done Scarborough Weston you know there are a little bit out a little bit far out versus the royals which is right around the Streetcar Line Queen Broadview in the middle of the city off clubs but I mean I I think it's concerning when people see you know if clubs in Toronto reclosing Yo what's going on is it is it something that I mean because you're I actually think it is the golf courses the goal it's there's tension has always been a tension between the curlers gophers is at a crossroads there or is it just something as simple as the golf courses have decided to go in a different direction and don't WanNa don't WanNa worry about the curling anymore really awesome sadly the the the the record of the week didn't for those two years wasn't great but you know the experience something that can never you know never pass up or never hi park is another one that's very successful almost purely curling club has tennis in the summer and other things but but it's a great curling club and very vibrant and very successful so the ones home put it that way I don't think it's I don't think many people have exited spent how how do we keep maybe the grassroots level from getting squeezed out there you know more third shift in the various nights we've added a Sunday night learn to curl league we've added a Monday after or in the evening at five o'clock mixed doubles league to try to squeeze some more teams in in those there's so is it is it a situation where curling maybe I don't Wanna I don't WanNa say you endanger but as a case where curling maybe that had a great success so the way I see it curling is alive and well I think I think we need more of the of the like the in two different memberships that are that are at odds so I that's kind of the story for the the recent ones have closed that said at the rotating curling club are every that are doing really well aren't aren't anywhere near closing down other ones like farther out like look at your curling club up in newmarket growing and successful deals and that the Ki- Kinda kills the whole play down kills the dream I couldn't I couldn't dream of going to the world's representing Canada as grassroots curler you still kind of there you saw I know a lot of the scarborough Gulf folks went to all the which is another other country club it's I mean I'm not sure what happened to the folks at West I'm with as as clubs are getting fuller like that yeah that's a real problem with the royals for sure I look at our men's league on on Thursd Thursday nights with those people try having to having to change clubs absolutely I think some clubs has actually benefited some maybe we're underutilized it's there's been zero turnover off last three seasons as we're twenty eight teams and all twenty eight came back so a new team on the waiting list couldn't get in and to remain have average lower than other other places which is interesting though I mean it's a nice have a lot of fun there the play downs have been decreasing every single year on both the men's and women's side you know there's Mike -Fornia in Quebec has famous blow Ya that he writes in his absolutely and I think this this learned to girly curly talking about on Sunday nights really successful a lot of people sign up into that one wanted to get into was was family and we we talked about before we started you mentioned you're not playing down in Ontario for regular men's but your plan join the men's league you're just moving into the city that's that's where it's hard competitive curling is difficult to find to find ice in this competitive leagues I mean it's a good time slot to you Sunday night nine o'clock actually good time for a lot of people and you know our we've got got some turnover on on our Monday leagues and our Friday mix leaks but it also means it's hard to get in right so you're moving into the city how Scott six sheets of ice everything's full it could it could easily survive an easily succeed with eight maybe even ten the only way to really join those leagues has to be a single person joining a team where someone left because people can hold their spots with three returning players so yeah it's a real problem he said though you know if you're not careful and you don't also make time for that for that next generation than that problem may rear its head twenty years from now we're GonNa get the best ice time slot so how do you how do you encourage club growth and encourage the next generation of curlers if they're having to fight for ice time is the pond it's a curling podcast my name is Ryan McGee coming to you from Richmond Virginia and not coming to you from Southampton England Canada's sort of at the players really want to win the brier all of them at every level so it and we end the brier is still undetermined goes who goes to the world championships for Canada so there's there's a lot of really good success stories sadly hearing about the ones that are closing down nobody wants to hear about there being fewer sheets of ice in the province or so so what does that do for for clubs her as those clubs get full as more people are moving to those clubs you know the the people who have been there for for longer it seems like with established clubs they're the ones fully there were room so it's good to know that the demise of curling in Toronto in Toronto is is greatly exaggerated but but yeah like like especially in areas. I mean if you look at the where the royals is located it's an area where a lot of young urban professionals moving into the city for work it's Ah you're able to get in in those leagues It's if you're if you're a competitive junior cert of twenty two year old male curler and I met her you know I I'd stare over in the distance at this beautiful woman on the other sheet curling in various competitive spills and we always joked it you know that really the last knowing that we never got into your curling history and I know that you're pressed for time one of the one of the things that I very young club for that reason generally as people get older they moved to the suburbs with to have our or they retired suburbs So the royals ten down in mixed doubles with your wife what is it what is it like playing mixed doubles win with your wife is there what are the positives and negatives said the cl- kind of club where people can rent the ice and you know walk to the curling club all of the golf courses are talking about you had to drive to and they were in the suburbs right win or were they were they joined it's interesting you know I think there's they've compressed into other clubs that weren't full so you know it's been they found as you know the the the ones that you were talking about in the suburbs of close this curlers have to go somewhere is that kind of knows their squeeze now at some some of the other clubs the two that so many many of your listeners probably know Ashley Way She's curled on the tour on the women's tour for many years and I actually that's actually where they're really different set different pools of people drawing golfers aren't becoming curlers in the current golfers or t it's like two separate clubs a lot of the time maybe some overlap but so there that she was from she day and I'm from Sheet F- 'cause we always stared across it makes a lot of people sick when we talk about that and until look when we started curling together it was it was really great 'cause we we both had a lot of experience that we bring to the game and you know she actually curls internationally as well she she used to live in Germany in the early two thousands and she played with the German German team and juniors and actually went to the world's in two thousand one so it was we she she has she was actually encourage me to do singles curling thing because she said she did how that works anything specific that you suggest pack well I mentioned the phone just in case the always toys and so there's and there's a whole bunch of the club with around the same age as as our kids so I expect a junior program to be developed royals have one currently but I expect one of those the big white curling sheets and it's very stimulating visually so we found curling club quite an easy place for for our sub one year old to hang out interviews and then go out on the ice I actually think this could succeed could be TSN's biggest hit you heard it here first folks we we find that and so it's good to have and we have multiple kids now actually highly nickel has just had a young young one sorry Duncan just had a young and now that I have a toddler it's a bit crazy it's a bit hard he runs around and makes trouble and bolts out the door and you have to always be watching onto spills with the kids what's that like how do I need to prepare for when I eventually do that what you need tips and tricks that you can suggest for you know we have moments where we struggle we have moments where we where we love every minute of it and at the end of the day we still want to curl with each other so it's really great many many other couples out on the ice so it's it's just like hilarious should be the reality TV episode you know where you go back to the mansion and film the sort of in between games have we really don't want to just throw device in front of him but sometimes that works with two I have no idea what we're GonNa do I'll let you know last curling season we'd have a second season we've done it with one and with one it's actually quite easy up until their mobile like they actually love the for spilling while having young children so I haven't actually brought both kids to the curling club yet so since currencies just started with our second kid we didn't have one and in terms of our competitive nature and I think it makes us stronger as a couple in you have you have two younger kids including one your your youngest is actually always no no is a two year old and a half year old's favorite word yet yeah again I want to be cognizant of your time great group of guys from across the pond and and it's been you know this weekend was great and I'm looking forward to next one at up in Ottawa they're gonNA so that's why we play it we'll have to play it because it's you know it's good it's good for us in terms of the the intellectual aspects of it I'm really great format to for for shooters right you're going out there and you're shoot you're throwing five skips skips rocks in a row they've all got to be perfect so the pressures the hoping to represent England playing down in England early next year and on curling overall in Ottawa thanks for joining us and Good Luck recipes thank you so much okay we're back and we are still without Jonathan but as we have a box of of like of slyke animals like the dinosaurs in the farm animals always bring those Hawaiian them all up and play with them for for that he developed the next few years as our kids grow up all right yeah I heard basically everything I'm told is they're easy to deal with until they have an opinion absolutely right now the opinion is currently playing as we talk in the World Mixed Curling Championship but we have the next best thing we have a member we did the first wins good ones there were solid and they were against good teams as well but then you know we sort of sort of petered out a little bit our sex kills half a curling game and that just running around be okay how being a curling club where you know people are okay with kids running around at the royals it's usually it's event in were previewing really three days into the competition but say lovey So you may remember him from our episode the next few minutes Felix Price Felix thank you so much for taking time out to join us no problem always welcome always wanna come back onto the podcast make fun of Jonathan of course of the junior team that Jonathan coaches who is here to talk about the world mixed doesn't really it's not really fair to have Jonathan preview his own and then we got a bunch of young Scot Yeah you ran into a couple of good teams with the after after the first two wins a just a month older than than our first ours is four and a half months yours is five and a half months what have any times have you traveled in the other players on the English World Mixed Team it is obviously Jonathan who we know for good reason as you heard rob talk about in that interview they were getting ready for their second spiel in as many weeks they wound up going Spiel in Riga in January so that'll be my first trip across the pond and then in February for the for the Englishman because it came back to bite Jonathan's team in probably cost them a few bucks so we still don't have Jonathan the reason for that he is one into in that Spiel and did not qualify for playoffs based on their draw shot challenge kids practice your DMC England isn't nearly as small as we all thought it was not because a lot of people who play for England I Jonathan who is playing second do you know anything about the the other players and then we'll talk about what England is currently doing 'cause they're they're currently playing the competitions going on as we on etiquette if you didn't take please go back and listen regard to having back to talk about Jonathan and he's not here so make fun of him for it yeah that's always a good a good sign and then so so this weekend going up to Ottawa in your head winner you heading to Europe so we're going to do England is in a pool with Austria Belgium Finland France Korea Russia and Switzerland they have residency among English players actually play in Scottish competition live in Scotland I did not know this uh-huh there moments where you're yelling at each other and swearing at each other and the next minute you're kissing on the ice and hugging on the ice and it's you're not the only ones doing it like the asked him how that happened and and look at what the seal in the night so if they had one that I think they win the whole spiel but the every every team we lost preview it England is currently to know they're about to not be to anno- because as Felix and I are talking they are on the business end is there anything else that you want to talk to before we talk about before we get out of here now just really I'm looking forward to a to a a laid back season with a they beatdown at the hands of Switzerland so give us a villa can you give us a little bit of background on these other players that are that are playing with Jonathan I wish in order to make the playoffs would coming into this what would you have said would have been the over under for number of wins for England at that yeah the way Jonathan Talks about the very good team very confident so yeah I three wins they have difficult games oversee Russia and career especially I think that off I think the swing game the swing game is that Finland break they still got play Russia Finland and Korea so a tough row to Hoe game out with ones they have left I mean they could pull an upset against Russia or or career but spent my wisdom as absolutely and we're we're glad to have you here so I don't know anything about we've I've honestly never met these people before which I know isn't brilliant fellow English but I mean I guess curling and eighty beaten Austria and arch-rivals France they're currently losing Switzerland in her probably GonNa wind up losing that when they're down four to one at the fourth in Cels all right fantastic I rob thank you so much for joining us and giving us giving us some background on this on this team that you have so you won your first to second one we thought we were going to win the whole thing you know that honeymoon phase we've we've only played two games together we won both it's quite quite young and obviously I've got the next big thing in coaching Coming up with them world mixed Felix how many think they were GonNa get yeah I think minimum three are and we're challenged I think the the Ross white team from Scotland as a really bright future ahead of them we actually had the prediction they were GonNa win the whole thing they came up just doc and found out the judge made a mixed team without me Oh no I have weasel my way I'm now the coach in game if they beat Finland than I think they can finish I think they can finish four three in possibly possibly I don't know maybe get into playoffs assuming Jonathan so I could but I've literally met none of them how is that possible they'll they'll plan Scotland I presume yeah are you guys GonNa try to play in the men's play down to or are you just GonNa stick to a junior schedule we've talked about playing in in the talk did you play down to try did you play down to try and get into this tournament I know that you play obviously you do the you have the junior team but joe did you have a mix so Jonathan went on to to play with them so I don't think I see so Jonathan's team it's world mix is going on right now there's forty teams air including England now that now that mixed doubles I believe is going to A. B. Pool I believe it's the only direct entry tournament left in from having talked to him outside of this podcast that he is scared of you guys he talks about Phil but never put into put into action And then I went I went off to America this summer for a month and then I came has gotten better at dse since his disaster at the last at the last Spiel Yeah Yeah I think Finland that's going to be the most in that it means they're scared of you man this Jonathan's team saying this stuff you know I can tell you one example of that with Spain last year winning silver pretty crazy much Spanish curling has grown here recently I mean that's silver medal last actually we played his team two days ago without him in it and they Beatles exhaustion what does that mean and this competition that you know are up and coming countries in in the WC on I think the number it's not Addition by subtraction they're exactly so I kind of I don't like this world the world mixed and to be honest we keep being told by people out club idea bought Twenty one so you got the rest of your Geico increase that you were on that to to play down to this we had a me and my skip John we had talked about it due men's so we want to focus on juniors to be on this more than the men's competition it sounds like they're scared of you if they're telling if they're feeding in this spring it shouldn't be that difficult for Lieutenant along yeah yeah it's a good team that we've got going on short a very severe weird line score on that one too they they were tied with the hammer playing seven blank blank and then stealing they'd like the with the hammer how that happened but we played them the lost years well base managed to win knocking them out and putting us into the INSTA- cool finals in all of the all of the CF so if you're going to grow the idea I think in a way to grow grow the sport there's a lot of countries in that in the Jonathan plays at the one on the farm one Jonathan plays so the phone Fenton's rink in Sussex We you are in the loosest sense of on coach of that team so you saw you're going to try to try to dethrone Jonathan quite a few times they've sort of our Achilles heel whenever we played them we it would come down to an extra end one show we lose marched you talks a big game and I know how to get in Y'all's heads when you play in league he is he is frightened of yeah aim is still what I enjoy watching most but having to having to have two strong men's players in too strong women's players Canadian Juniors representing Manitoba before with Jt Ryan now curls with Jt Ryan on tour Scotland Luke Carson to me I think is is is more interesting than than the than the double side definitely I think it's interesting to see two different styles of play coming together as well it keeps watching the curling games in listing on I think it gives more room for an upset or an underdog team to come through and do well at just like Spain last year so looking so good like this weekend so yeah played played last week went to in five and I saw I saw you won your I q sorry two and three they've got a that skip his name's Gomez and he is a very talented player is skipping that team his men's Tis Mints Team just got done playing in curling night America I believe is that a junior team as he is he on the aged outdoorsy Nick format where you're still playing for supplying four person curling which is I'm still getting into mixed doubles I'm not quite there yet the foreperson at worlds and I believe he if he has the record for most world's participated in as well so Kind of a recently I think I well actually it may not be recently I think it was like three years ago he was one of the main one of the better junior players yeah like all Scottish teams for probably the most well known curler in this tournament is Germany's Andy Capp. He's only won five medals Dan as mixed doubles specialist in Switzerland they are heading up the mixed team Team USA they are skipped by hundred Clawson who in the US and now is I think he's played the last couple years with todd bird at US nationals but very very solid player sure this is just great radio Germany's one in one all right there one they are in a still young he only aged out lost yeah and I think he's GonNa Play Big Paul in Spain sort of coming years and curling he he they are insane pool as Canada's that's that's a that's a tough one for them tough draw them Switzerland who is currently a pounding Jonathan's team to curlers that you're going to recognize their Martin Reassess Ginny Paret they obviously have had tons of success there had to have been was that a surprise to you or 'cause you've probably played against the Spain junior teams right yeah we've we've played against Spain Presenting Team USA Italy they have Denise Penny and she is played at women's roles before with Diana Gaspari Russia another ended a country is because you know there's a lot of countries where you know they're they're strong on the women's side or they're strong on the men's side but with mixed you know it's it's a very how all live near Scotland in Scotland and have maybe a parent who's English will they've lived long enough to get I'm interested to see how Germany does with with Andy Capp as skip let's see where are the see where they're at right now Germany is her mixed doubles Another group of mixed doubles specialist that are heading up the mid four person mixed team in Alexander Ehrman and Bartok Czajkowski is his men's team I believe represented Poland last year. Zero's Australia Mr Ozzie curling humility still out there upsetting folks as team Australia Turkey Dill set yielders is I think she owners said I think any of them have actually been to the rink before the one down in the when the went down in the south of England or are you talking about the one in which one the wind impressed into the one yeah we have a remember very well I fiske fists skip Any good good kyle is back yes he's been around he's originally formed -Tario he played in the ninety two Olympics humiliation still in Moscow Leiva that's a tough that's a tough her Spain's Sergio is back after winning silver last year blend hi Scott Lawton Scottish competitions and practices in Switzerland and stuff like that so yeah Arkansas he's still a junior I think he still junior we have we've seen competitions lost you but he played against Kong Venezuela I saw I saw on twitter he got to meet Jonathan I think at the opening ceremony for this thing so that's kind of a rundown of Nigeria and they have the really awesome brooms Zillah t shirts that I have not seen for sale and if I will I will pay a steep price for is the only woman throwing this event I'm not sure but I know he recently I think she recently aged out of juniors as well today had Turkey is when they when they meddled lost ear into this competition is Kinda I mean it kind of shows how will his group is back Nigeria was the only African nation at last year's mixed doubles starting to get the ground you know get current started for brooms Zillah t shirt if anyone is able to snag one and then finally From team Hong Kong Jason Chang I know he's a listener so good luck to look it's kind of a rundown of who you might recognize among the names at this event forty teams five groups of eight teams each every time we got it too well base that are already very well as as a team Nigeria to Johnny Col- in looking at the roster's there's some look at the roster some curlers that people are going to recognize Canada there skip is Colin Kerr's he's played in the station mosque lava they are heading up that Russian team that Jonathan later have minutes a tough draw for Jonathan having to play Paret in Rio and then airman and she loves it so in doubles though it's interesting I actually think they should film mixed doubles it should be a reality TV show not or is it just typical American like sitting here assuming that everyone in England has been to Ireland Not English people received the point candidates to anno- so a lot of the teams that you expect to be doing well are doing well so be interesting to see interesting to see if anyone Spain Spain Hungary both to know in their group the USA is wanted one It'd be interesting to see if someone like Spain can just about everyone's played two games already some surprising results Ireland's three you know now you I know nothing about Irish curling lasting McGee so I imagine if you go deep into the rule book who knows I might be eligible to play for them what can you tell us about Irish curling Felix come out of nowhere and make a run and get it in get a medal for for those up and coming countries and who knows maybe it'll be Jonathan it probably won't be Jonathan is three zero Russia's England is about to be two in one so let's see check Republican Norway or to know and Washington like English curling I mean that's nothing never played against teams I've never been to Ireland go to Ireland because it's just more rainy so why would you wanNA WE WANNA east into Europe into light like a surprising junior women's team win dill said Liz was was skipping them I think you've you've probably seen them before right yeah yes I you've never been to Ireland Note Toco should they should I be such should I say should I be surprised by that metaphor going West will rain but the yeah Ireland's Ireland's three no Korea's career for a fact that Jonathan is kinda super geeked about this whole thing I know that one of his dreams was always to play in a WC F- event like this it'd probably wanting for being realistic so he's really kind of played it off on the podcast but I know the junior team this year I know Jonathan he's he's got the new men's team that he's trying to to to improve before they at that people have heard of do you know what drives yet for that one we have our drool by think out skit Jones the only person who's actually looked at it the working with you guys as well or is yard are you guys playing second fiddle to the mixed championship I think definitely wanted to focus on the mixed subgroup shop alive by sending US drills to do and making sure that we record every single practice session will happens great coaching where Great Coaching I. We don't want to see him for a while but he is he's keeping onto a spill in Latvia in just over a week it's it's Shell First Adult Spiel as a team okay which should be good fun I think the R that challenger Spiel yes the challenges bill of Nice and they have Tom you'll have your wearing England tapas if as coach written on the back when when he got this he was he was pretty happy a good arena ice which we should be a change for us but we like it I know every now and then there's some teams in there in that term it's it's it's it's a good tournament is a big fair enough and he Into coding as it were is that a is that a triple knock or do you have a Pool happened and we had a big big toll practice session and he does he sends us drills do basically said his everything you need I'll see you in a month before they have to play and play down over they've got some pretty tough competition for for the English play down at the end of the year is even able to work in listen intimidating dude on the ice or what yeah really he's he's pretty ripped toll the down and then I think when when it gets closer to the the Willoughby's the which is in December he'll he'll turn up and drugs aside we'll we'll happy that you get supplying wc Van I think I made like two years ago all the we've played before the Willoughby's he's a scary guy leave it alone has that like intimidate the other night Ryan I really wish was gonna be funny is kind of play it off with you guys or can you tell these pretty excited for this thing we as a team we we can tell you is pretty excited and obviously they just shared with you guys but Yeah I just don't think that we will we this is in the summer so we won't particularly and so we are there I sat proud of him phenomena which faranoff he managed to see us right at the beginning of the season yeah exactly he's he's Soros on the day the wrinkles your take would be like three hundred zero what could you buy with three hundred zero if you guys win this thing maybe we employ that a coach waist scary connick guy so yeah I need very good color obviously but so it looks like if you win you take home three a five hour train journey to get the but the advantage is obviously the open all year round so we we can get some training that the one thing I did see the world curling federation their website had a big feature on that new curling club in Preston and it looks I mean the pay to get back to England Yeah Johnny Carson flights booking on with banking on winning this sink yeah to bias tune who is currently playing in the mix right now team Denmark oh nice purse so the winter's GonNa get probably like a thousand euros something like that maybe fifteen hundred yeah probably take will be like and I'm sitting here on curling zone it's GonNa be hilarious if I like find it before you do or before you even know let's see now trailing zone night world world curling thing looks amazing I see it on twitter all the time do guys practiser lottery are you mainly down at the farm mainly donate the foam it's about team Lost yes they're in our pool and then I see in Group C that does Choon which is ahead under ice graphic stone meets the under ice graphic gross all right so I've seen like twelve different names for it I've heard Jonathan calls it the Preston Curling Club I've Seen Flower Bowl I've seen Barton grange like what on the other end it's definitely run for commercial purpose over trailing I think they'd find it difficult to host the in Europe Oh yeah I mean you're you may be a bit take your take would be or no that's the total paint job or I'm sure that it's in in ice graphic the weird nice graphic that's the length of the sheet is tough it is it tough to play on that is it tough to get a good practice session in there because it's got all these things to make it kind of trendy or is ice ice the this is kind of what you'd expect ready from a cutting club The lights can make quite difficult to see especially the skips Brunette the name of the garden centers right next to it so I file I think Jonathan's taken the wrong angle what for curling like I think that's probably one of the ways that you're gonna be able to get some clubs here in the US that are home petition that just because of added factor that the you know the ice is different don't really have a hotline they said just have arena clubs or looking for their own dedicated curling facility it sounds like this is probably going to have to be the way to go in that that what do you think of the tree data put in a good shift trying to gas shed for the world's base are you guys doing any feels to get ready for that yes running club does it brings cutting to completely new audience so you know it's for example Fenton's rank it's it's on a farm Andy Curling Club as the as as what could potentially be the next big thing in curling I think what the Trendy Tori I've got into a website does not have it up oh you found it yeah it's it's groups and then it's talked to from the group's going the job took a job that during the summer nice uh so he's he's actually hasn't really had an off season you're not going to be dedicated curling rink this place has all these new features new lighting cool lice. Yeah but I I wanted to that when you say it in real life it is a radius of cool looking place and it definitely brings in tourists it doesn't even have the country's we've got right now

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"His law wanted to make sure to include include that story. Bill gallo joining us here. Next and We'll go from there. I don't want to launch into too much more Before before bill joins us i will reiterate and i'm sure we'll get crazy Probably tomorrow tomorrow at this hour wednesday to friday reminder. Tc a thoroughbred charities thirty-first stallion season auction and it is a comprehensive list of obviously the you know the kentucky lineup but arizona by the way Opening day at surfers paradise yesterday arizona. California florida indiana. Virtually every new york just in philip in new mexico louisiana maryland ohio oklahoma pennsylvania texas west virginia so all the regional breeding programs that represented in the stallion. Season auction. Starts tomorrow nine. Am and goes to friday four thirty. And it's the it's the major fundraisers we said with aaron late last year There's also if you go to the website there's also the memorabilia if you're not if you're not a in the market for stallion season. Tci dot org. Okay and right on the front page ya thirty first annual stallion season and online and then There's the silent auction goes a little bit longer. Silent auction goes from wednesday. Till next tuesday for and there's all kinds of halters there's certain goods and services and so forth bill gallo standing by and of course yesterday. The news circulated we just started the show and one of the news and notes. That i had from the two weeks away was the race limerick baltimore bucko the shepherd string and ireland and that's where the horses under jonathan's name will compete going forward his fifty plus year career in north america Coming to a close bell gallo. Good morning happy new year. Happy new year to use the good to talk to you bell. They this there'd been some rumors and rumblings about this and in a jonathan career is i. it's difficult to quantify. I mean the champions and the success of on the flat and over the jumps. Yeah it's It's a remarkable career. You know. I've known him for a long time. Since nineteen seventy seven forty some odd years I watched his this career just skyrocketing to such a dominant place and he literally will rule the roost for years and years and until the last decade. Or so you know jack fischer kind of leapfrogged from there But pretty remarkable that you know. Jonathan came back and won that title last year. Even though those an abbreviated year but was great for him great for stable. He didn't have a presence throughout the year He left everything in the hands of his assistant. Carry on But he had He was on the phone every day. Training on the phone from florida But just remarkable career. It's almost inexplicable. Mind boggling But you know jack fischer got a big mountain. Climb not not that he couldn't achieve which did but it's It's going to be a. It'll take them a while. That's for sure but a wonderful train or wonderful guy. Very bright guy incredible. What at his craft incredibly important to not only the national steeplechase association but just people chasing in general what he did rossi kind of really. He's the most recognizable name recognizable figuring our game certainly throughout my career The last year but Great man I'm sure you'll get some great tributes about him today but with a variety of people either have on. But i'm just pleased to know. I learned a lot from him Work he was actually the president of an essay. Pull off for three years period and towards the latter part of his career and So i work closely their work with him as a pretty good working relationship over the years. was wasn't always the friendliest as as a handicapper He had obviously the best sources. And some of those horses got pretty high up ladder. You know reached incredible levels in the handicapped division. So there were times we got kind of a contentious relationship about handicapped weights and things like that but it was it was. It was a great run for him. I believe he's just ready. Eighty years old. He never seen very old to make just was always sharp. Credibly mentally sharp and Is one of the things. I always sticks out. In my mind. He was he was everywhere he just showed up at the most remote places and he was. It was an extraordinary commitment that he had to not only his own stable put to the scored itself. He really loves to support. The smaller race meets some of the smaller race meets on our circuit You know he could. He could fill a card literally consent. Six or seven or eight horses down to a small place in tryon north carolina and Back in the days. Sweep the card as well but still His presence and his name is extremely meaning meaningful to the national steeplechase association. How how valuable Kind of a two part question. How valuable is. It was it to have shepherd who you know for an extended period was able to straddle the flat portion of you know with the steeplechase Voices and campaigning And had there really been anybody previously that that was simultaneously. Tom voss to an extent. But i mean how. Many historically how many crossover horsemen had this level of success. No no one prior to shepherd not that kind of success train. Creators cup champions each eclipse champions on the flat. But it's a very important part. Because that's what we you and i had this discussion many times. But you know. There's a common misconception that the steeplechase horses not even a thoroughbred some people within the industry. Don't even realize that our horses thoroughbreds that jump fences and Shepherd clearly Bridge that gap and he proved that you know a a trainer can can accomplish great things both on the plot and augur jumps and even though he started out in the jump game he segue to crossan and kept going back and forth. So you know. The the level of expertise in an level of achievement is is unbelievable when you think of it. That way. Tom watson's the only other name i can think of kind of crossed over a little bit and and did both successfully. But you just said it. They think they were doing it at the same time. But you know. His career was wonderful but Pales in comparison shopper in his. It's funny until i read Don clippers peace. Didn't i really didn't know his his origin story in terms of coming over and why it was that that his career couldn't start in in the uk. Ironically his father was a handicapper and It was a conflict of interest in that Prohibited him from taking out a license. And that's that's why. I came over then mid sixties That's a you know an interesting an interesting development because it basically put them in a whole different direction. he's i think he was in finance it. I mean well. Katie went to eat eaten. I believe Very well educated man and had aspirations of of the business world but that didn't suit him he had a love appreciation of the horse. And and one thing led to another but it was his father's position in england that Forced him to come to america to launch a career and training. You worked for berlin cox. Work for roy cox cox trained a lot of people like billy turner and people like that and so but he did work for. Burleigh learned a lot from burley. Obviously you know went on out on his own a relatively young age. I mean fifty some odd years. Incredible it really is I can't think of anybody in any other sport that you can sort of measure up to his his consecutive streak of winning races. You've talked about it many times on the show winning sure consecutively in saratoga. For that period of time. I think it was forty. Some odd forty seven years or something seven forty seven years would win it with a win in saratoga. I mean that's no one will ever do that again. Now so there's a lot of things done that you know people will just will not be able to get done but I think the streak in saratoga is is is one of the most remarkable streaks and Anything including baseball joe. Dimaggio the individual horses. We've we've certainly talked about horses like flatter and you know the any number of the the jump champions. I mentioned you know the conversations that we had during the run of forever together. An informed decision But there's other aspects to the the little sidebar about storm cat and and when storm cat died jonathan. You know very big show. That storm cat passed away and His his involvement not just training storm cat but then and this is in a clip injures piece to the fact that That his wife urged mr young to you know to keep him at overbrook and and because they were ready to try to sell them syndicate them somewhere and it ended up being a a a fateful decision and a very important decision absolutely. Yeah no. I remember vividly. The storm kept. I mean he trained him a two year old It was The right i read that yesterday clip interest piece about kathy shepherd. Encourage you mr young. Keep them there and Obviously his career was remarkable to say the least that short shepherd had had a share in the horse. So you know it's it certainly A few bill. That's for sure over the years. Now the you know the number of the names you know for those Virtually anybody i. I suppose has whatever era you were introduced to the game There there's a. There's a shepherd horse for you. You know going back like you said to the seventies and Then you look at look at some some of the names the some you forget about the nine pins and mixed up been had he had a bunch of great horses. Story just came to my mind. I got a call one day. This is back in right around. Nineteen ninety ninety seven or early nineties. But i got. I got a call from mr hubbard ordeal hubbard. Come forward and really know mr hubbard. I knew of them. Obviously but i got this impromptu. Call for mr hubbard. And he said he was in queens. He said this is steeplechase office. Yeah and he said He says i got a horse. I gotta turf force and I you know somebody told me. I said jump them. I don't know anything about this. People shake thing so can you If i was to go to a trainer in what is it. you know. There's only one name. I know he said this guy shepherd and this is a sexist. This conversation actually happened. I was. I was sitting in my office in maryland where i'm sitting right now back and you've you've you've touched upon the the key name there but if you turk force wants to go along and you're inches people chasing jonathan chase. Can you give me that. Guy's number and i did in the horse was laying. Bread called. michiko was a multiple stakes winners over jumps. A very nice horse. We run out of flag conditions. And sure enough. Obviously he he called sheppard and sheppard got horse and turn them into a stakes worse. But you know once again a small world straight of how how powerful the guy's name was and what a presence he hadn't a game is the only person that mr hubbard even knew people chasing but I always remember that stereotype. I hadn't thought of that surgery longtime until we just want this conversation. A great story i i. Also i'm sure these conversations we'll see what graham graham was around for her flatter and i'm anxious to hear from you know the training side and the kinds of things that That graham picked up from the from the you think about when you look at any of the horses And some of the writers that are tied to and you know some of the most successful opportunities that they had in their careers. And i think daniel hodson certainly and Sure if you went through. Can i'm sure if you went through the the litany and you'd pick out you know certain eras and jump. Jocks have windows of opportunity in until they either until they either get either too big or or they fall one too many times and say that's enough You know Life miller right play blyth miller road. Plenty maria absolutely form lights or thought road lonesome groves stamos. But yeah she definitely wrote for shepherd. Van johansen you're right. I mean there were several jockeys that came through stable john. Cushman was champion jerry. Fischbach of course road for them So you know he. He was good with the jockeys. He was You know he trained trainers ended. Elliot all janet. Janet elliott came up in the shepherd. Sable of course. Grandma's motion make sure yes grand motion about lateran weight. He carries because some of the contentious times. We're scared one hundred and seventy six pounds in one hundred seventy six pounds. I think i put the weights. And that was back in the mid eighty. I mean he was a four time eclipse champion for years in a row. I can't remember what year that was probably year three. Or maybe even four but carry one hundred seventy six pounds and won the race and then was entered back in a couple of weeks later. And dumping another andy capp and we've bumped into seventy eight. He didn't run with the seventy aged shepherd under scratching them but it was Oh god. I was horrified watching the race. When he won carrying high in seventy six suspect wrote them and when he hit it was a place go radnor pennsylvania and when he hit the wire fish back not too many strides past the wire. Pittsburgh jumped off the horse literally Which was he pulled him up immediately jumped him jumped off and gets to get the weight off. Which i thought was pretty interesting. But anyway yeah now sheppard He he had some great great jumpers battery. Of course the whole thing cafe princeton hall of fame. Those are i. Think those two jumpers and the whole thing and then but You just you go on and on could you could write Into wrote a long piece about him you could write a book about him for sure. And as i'm looking at this at these other You know jump winners. Here's one that if we reached out to rosemary home-ice meister junior She would she would certainly appreciate. She ended up on cloudy tonight. When jonathan got him from frank kirby and you had that that really good year and a half or so Including those winds at I can't remember if he won two in a row at kentucky downs but he had a really nice sequence of mile and a half turf. tries that That rosemary was was tied on and it was very cool. Success story that the kind of came out of left field. Yeah yeah he was. A shepherd gave a lot of people in opportunities. You know much. Like allen jerkins a champion for the little guy always wanted to help the either the young rider league yesterday i read. He said it's we liked about the national steeplechasers. Were really sport. It's much more of a sport than than flat racing. But which was a. I think that's his interpretation. Because he got he he he likes the social part of it Not was a real social kind of guy but he You know the steeplechase communities that tight knit community and you go to the races in. It's it's more relaxed to racetrack things like that. So i i think that appeals to him over the years for sure and that says why he was it was he was everywhere he just showed up in the most remote place he he showed up and he drove deep he drove. I don't know how many thousands of miles he drove but he drove everywhere. A lot of miles on cars probably broke a lot of cars down but anyway What what a train. And it's you know this is a celebration. It's a happy thing because You know he certainly deserves a. I love the fact that they won championship last year. And it can goes out. Goes out on such a high note. As i think about what he's done with carrie who's gonna probably launch her own training career now But certainly i think she worked for him. I think she's worked about a decade ten years or so and she's she did a remarkable job in his in his physical absence last year. Well i i the the career And you talk about the dedication and how driven obviously He was i mean and the warm warm and cuddly. he's not and he wasn't ever and from that standpoint You know he he was. You don't amass a career like this without you know without You know some. I would i. I think it's fair to say Bill that you know it comes in in some cases at at at the cost of of some personal. The personal life expense. I mean he he was really driven. I i there's you can't do you think about people like lucas and van burg. Don't have this kind of success without being consumed by you know by the work. Yeah no i agree. It was absolutely driven in But he was also may not you know he's he's he's still around. He warm and cuddly. Yeah i wouldn't describe him. Would say was always very approachable. You'd have any turf writers. Anybody liked very very approachable. If you had a question for you could walk right into his tack room and you may not get the the warm and friendly fuzzy look might get grimace buddy. He was always always very approachable. I one of the things i learned from him. You know thinking about that. Myself i was. I always wanted to be very prepared when i was talking to. Jonathan sheppard Because i knew how stupid he was. And i i i always made it a point professionally to be as prepared as i possibly could when i spoke with them But you'd be amazed how. I would watch him even at the barn at saratoga I would watch when members of the press would come by and Whether it was a positive store negative story. He was always always very approachable. And he was extremely or he is extremely articulate. he's wonderful public speaker is He just he puts his words together. Beautifully and thoughtfully. He's very thoughtful type of I when he's speaking to the press or more just to anybody really like the warm fuzzy. No uh we'll talk We'll hear from graham motion mid morning as well. and graham the most high profile horsemen to come out of the tutelage of jonathan sheppard And there'll be more and we'll hear from jonathan. I i i kind of wanted to have Some some observations From from others Before we we get a career retrospective From john and and as he as he is quoted In a couple of places you know he's not gonna completely Like jones yesterday keep keep keep is available to to do some cameos and some some race calling maybe by appointment so people in this. It's pretty tough to just walk away from this from this game. Nobody really completely walks away. the while we've got bill gallo bill we it was such a A torturous the year for the chase community and the racetrax were able to get going and have some momentum I it it was much more difficult process for the chase community You know talk about the now that the dust is settled. Talk a little bit about you know last year and what the you know the first half of this year Looks to to do to know kinda get going into the feels like you're going to have to tread water a little bit longer. Well very well described. It's last is pretty bleak. We lost seventy percent of our season really comes. Thank god for ira. Thank god for martin fans because We we we did have nine races up in saratoga which was critically important to us because you gave some sense of hope and But we lost a pretty much our entire sprang we salvage two of the meats middleburg races in virginia goal couple running and actually in june which is major shifts and then we salvaged six of about half of the meets To to a certain degree we had a trim purses like like everybody else but anyway long story short we we. We suffered their early last year. But there is some hope and there's a lot of hope. Actually this is a light at the end of the tunnel. But we're gonna have to. We got gotta get through this spring. Obviously and hopefully by summer things would be normal or back to normal as close to normal as possible. But we're gonna right now we've got typically we've got sixteen race meets on the spring schedule. I just got a phone call this morning. Seven o'clock that the are opening day aitken spring on march twenty. They met last night and they cannot run No they they canceled this morning which pushes our start date to april ten And some from april ten On we're going gonna see if we can put together a schedule. I think we can mitt not obviously not sixteen race meets but if we can get a dozen or fourteen of those to go that would be wonderful The carolina cup Typically in the second week of the season and they made an early decision about a month ago to move later on our calendar. And they're gonna run. Saturday may twenty nine. Which would close out I'm i'm sorry. Saturday may twenty second. Which would be the second last weekend string. So that was a strategic. Move on their part So aching his out camden his move. And we're gonna start. Our season fences try on north carolina on april ten. So that's what we're hopeful for its And then if we can get to the summer and you know i know colonial planning on running you know they. They have made a commitment to us for a couple of races each week. And it's a seven week stint. So we're we certainly would look forward to that and and Hopefully narrow have a stack for our typical nine race program toga. We normally run a couple of stakes races at belmont in the fall so we we can get back normal that way. I feel really confident that we can turn it over in the in the fall in with the pandemic totally behind us in the vaccine distributed and people feeling healthy and anxious to get outside again We hopefully run our full slate in the fall which is of course highlighted by the fargo races and that Third week in october. Which is our championship day but It's it's gonna take a while You know in reality of you. No one will be back to normal Twenty twenty two probably but I think we're going to have a decent season and i think our spirit of horsemen is incredible. If you think what. They went through last year and our race meet directors those that did run and and took a financial hit just for by running They did it for the worst minute to give them an opportunity to run. They gave him an opportunity to keep their helping employed. And things like that so it was. It's been difficult but it was particularly difficult for us because we're so dependent on attendance and sponsorship and those without having people on the grounds. Obviously you have no attendance in there for your sponsorship opportunities to wendell so very challenging but where we're not gonna quit and steeplechasing isn't going anywhere. The national steeplechase sociation isn't going. We've been around a long time but a beer around probably a long time. We've got very very dedicated. Horseman owners trainers writers. Well and you mentioned far hills and and of course really. I tried a couple of times to connect with guy towards the airy and all the work that had gone into planning for what what was scheduled to be the one hundredth meeting At far hills. And you know it'll it'll still be the hundred meeting but It it does feel like You know by the time we summer and certainly fall conditions will the such. Hopefully that you know that he gets to execute this. You put in so much effort with the idea of you know culminating in that that hundred meeting and i think i you know of of all not that not that every other you know meet and every other venue that had to either amend or cancel postpone etc. Know feel bad for everybody but it it really for far hills last year. it just really felt like Rug being pulled out from under it was a dagger. They had enormous plan a million dollars in purses for for one day. That's our chance it was meant to be a championship. Dane guy wanted to make it meaningful And and that was. That was a devastating blow. I will tell you at rock mate for sure But they're you know far hills once again. They've been around a long time and they've done incredible job of growing that event and making it an annual event that just the local community embraces the sponsorship the amount of money that they give to charities extraordinary so Th th they'll be back will now bill gallo with us from Nsa national steeplechase association and we gathered to appreciate the career of jonathan sheppard and One thing as we wrap up to bill the suggestion that came off Came off of twitter. Mike adams floating the idea of attaching jonathan's name to perhaps the turf writers or creating a new stake How how did that. How did that idea strike you. I think it's very appropriate. I think it's a great idea as long as martin fans it is it In favor and song as the new york turf writers are there anymore. I think they've greenwich few one of the few left but back in the day when when the race was named the new york turf writers it was. There were significant number of new york turf. Writers that number has dwindled. Perhaps a coach sharing. I think you had suggested. Which is you know might be a good way to do it. Jonathan sheppard near prefers cup. But we've got to attach jonathan shepherds name to a very significant grade one race for sure and what better place in saratoga he was. He was he was a leading trainer. Can't remember what year it was now. You remember before. I was the leading trainer at the me Obviously one more clout racist and jump races that here but still Saratoga is a special place for shepherd. It's a place where a grade one race should be named after him and the friars would be a great candidate. We'll hear more later with the grand motion Who worked and a has a direct tie and get some of the horsemanship tidbits that that are that are always had are always interesting. That one about About adding guinness stout Made me laugh to forget. Which was that was a non sweater. It was I think one of his phillies. I'm not sure grandma. I love it. So bill i appreciate it and Happy healthy to you and everybody at nsa and obviously going to be a little bit more of a watch and wait but whatever you need communicated out there please let me know. Thank you so much. God bless jonathan sheppard. Bill gallo everybody and appreciating the long you wanted to talk law and five and a half decades long career shepherd top of the hour. And we'll take a break here have swing by and we'll get a chance the kinda dig into the early part of the santa anita season and particularly of course opening salvos. Things like Malibu and and more and now of course we've got the first three year old. 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Part 3: Kev Humphreys

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

31:01 min | 1 year ago

Part 3: Kev Humphreys

"Kevin Humphreys is back. Hey a CAV. How about the Queen winning. And she's got a good horse there and. Practical run run well. Those and the pace settled. Pace in the race, he was very well. And James Oil kind of. A decision Gary on the right to be bit more prominence you up to date on them yet. He he was chain, and then from there on in so it's a very very good win on. I've been wrong quite enough today, so I'm GonNA. Take all the little victories. Sign them yet. That was what I liked. It was a lot of money I and maybe A. It's also a pointer for heaven piece tactical on I. Them I think is already well supported on on the Friday tired in the Norfolk stakes so yet so steady the form some four from right to work out very well for wise them. Well and you mention What kind of Element of of what we've seen today and right from the first. Right from the opener today. The way in which? The stand side has been so obviously better than the far side, and didn't it? It just took that that first division You know that started the day the two divisions of the Royal, Hunt Cup. The jocks! In the second division in the fifth day, they went headlong coming all the way from. From the far side to the near side. You have quite frankly I think. Her point today and you saw. What happened in the first race, you think it's laughable that you'd ever bought courses strong to five or so on and just the way things. Progressed, and then, yes, he said in the cooked runner-up. Adam cutting boost! Ron's drawn install four beaten, beaten this and a distract its way. Across the. That the from from the far. Side so yet said it is. I. I I think part of. Me feels the He'll. Be talked to that. Day! and. says stalls on the stunts like so that's the high numbers are prepared. To. Do some change when the weather is a bit softer and so and and maybe. A CUT IN A. Few days, and there's a lot of stormy weather plans or four over the next couple of hours and overnight, which May. Up the. First batch of markets, but also at the proceed. Any other highlights so far. We've seen obviously the of the fourteen races these first two days. We've got one left and that's This handicap, coming up at a mile and three quarters going to be about Oh. It's about eight minutes away. I mean the mornings are just flying, by which is not surprising of. These racist to go after the other you had the big hit yesterday obviously Cava the end of the card that the nightcap and Cordelia Own forty-six. And a lot of people. went to town, and and interestingly were able to hook up that big price winner with the favorite, and that was a tremendous exact. Sixty five forty for the the two dollar exact A. When you put together. Cordially own, and and for Danta blue so I think some people made out alright. Thanks, thanks! It was I. Think my wife Anyway. Winner on. The garden. Yet was it was It was a great way and I I I was looking at the rate, and I've looking at the price since. I'm Frankie was on the lead and and second relatively today's fractions, but they quickened fairly from fair way. you know they got racing very early and. A quick peek accordingly on. CAMARENA turn. He's used usually takes on Okinawa. And I'm. Still going quite well so I knew the company, but then he kind of looked in a little bit as sister to blue timely, he had an often writing for Donald Blue you know. I'll talk ways. Run enough. Run A belt a right. Off A lot of all. Alzheimer's and then and then to come to to quarter Leon. I think. Is. Great like you know it's. It's been a quality US I. Think you know yesterday in the Queen on circuits? Much tariff them. Great head to head. You know the. Talk to the market going gonNA finish the good long way clear rate Nazi a new air behind never didn't get run on humor. US Diamond stayed on for the you know they put went quite slow. And frankly darning look kind of. I star. In the Gospel Barnes and I'm looks like. If if this is Mabel last year, the frankly darning kind of replace A. Very very good I. Didn't there was a lot of untapped potential she? She went very easily and kind. Today's in. You know against junkers Holly did something similar where he won a few hundred thousand and became A. Performer on Lord North might be might be the same. He's kind of. Very impressive winning the Cambridgeshire lines here. And yet he was he was. It was a strange rights because I didn't expect it to be any place for. Veterans to the right to sue was actually made it. Very savings fare rates. On. To want to combat and the rest going to finish soon became A. Heap and you know you probably if you were on, Japan, you have to be a little bit disappointed. He's he's always needed as wrong so I I wouldn't necessarily give up ornament. I think they're still raises. When more so probably over twelve furlongs just don't take out the total for to protect for like per camper. Monte last year, the trio. Standard ten and a half. Maybe he might need twelve now. The you've mentioned Japan's up being upset in here and we should touch on yesterday and pile driver. I mean that. That upset. I suppose you know more. Surprising a of the two you know the the too short priced favorites. Failing and mogul I mean mogul was was just nowhere to be found. Yet yet. Mogul didn't didn't want to. Could race and I think know like? I'm going to read a little bit like you know maybe just. Again a bit like Japan raise. The full Reuters need per. But like he was very, you know he's going to pick reputation and local this year to be Barbie Horse. He'll ought to be a little bit disappointing, but they it's an. It was a great story for your on Martin Lawyer. Mark Darby could few years ago and and could have a light darby or ferry and puzzling from kind of went through the race. Was the winner turning turning for home and no kind of wouldn't quite easily, and I think as well to to. there's been a change to the entries yet. Darby because year so usually before you would have to answer to horses as a as a year. Hey, kind of each couple now I think it's just a pay on on the Sixth Anti Saints, so I think it allows there to be a fairy tale. Story Arvydas some horses to park driver who was bought very cheaply. Kathleen entered the Darby. At, the sixty six, hundred and having to pay the fees all the way to as. Well and we should also before turning our attention to the upcoming. Closing race of the day and also Thursday and Friday We should also mention Tash those that have been fans they? They got to celebrate as he gets his elusive win at Royal Ascot. was great to see. Watching the enrolling. I thought he was kind of. than kind of pulling away from from Jim Crowley in the first burglar, too, but he just he's so talented as you know. He I think I was reading. I think. His land was was the fastest of off the. Off the field, I'm thinking he you know. I it was great to finally get. Wind a bit of a Hoodoo and I. Think like No. He's being accused of being a little bit of a suspect fully, and so on Geico to see a win and I. Think can keep I. Think there's a good you know. Talk of maybe go to the Breeders Cup fifth year, and so it'd be interesting to see the he don't stay. Nice and you know at Keeneland? With were five. Five or five and a half I think five and a half for the for the turf sprint, so we might that might be great. Let's quickly before we turn to tomorrow and. Friday cav any final thoughts. About this seventh in here? Yeah. I would say I. Do like Rhymes Rhymes? Hand here and you know I think he's he's very. Kinky the Greek force in the making or remain calm Detroit. League record. Who Care Prince. And you can see why he's. He's one. He's one well here. You can even. Got Last year pretty much and clint back again. Trade off, I think. Know Roger is good. Gas and get horses. Ready Today Yeah. I kind of took a little bit continental Esto, as well kind of high decent form in Germany and as you. Aren't looking at the fifteen at you. And it. Probably you know it's one of these Ya. Sakhon, Earth or fifteen or sixteen, so am I. Will you know you know you pay you pay your money? You you hope for that opportunity. RUNTIME IS GONNA have my my main hoe care. You'll save my day if he can come up late into on top. Nine to two on the tote for the eleven, ranch and done. Gelding Andrew Balding was already got a win on the day and David Hilbert, and then if you're looking for a flyer, price-wise, Ernesto the German bread This is seen Williams Ben. Curtis aboard fifty nine to one on the international tote board that the pool that we're involved in couple of other horses of note for Jarrah Prince Roger Varian. And Andre Atten- Z. and seventy two favorite right now nine to two second choice on now five to one on ranch, and the floating up a little bit Cellino. James Fanshawe with o'shane Murphy seven to one, and I'm just skimming through here. I see my tomb do i. see any Hamdan Because my God Good, Absolutely. Two days right. Yeah, I'm. Jim Crowley has been has benefited greatly. Yeah, he's he's in. He's in great form. Just Crowley. Crowley is on board for David Simcock here, actually Al Mania. Australia gelding. Interesting fifteen to one on the fifteen hour Mayanja, so we're keeping an eye on this last race, and it's a mile, and a half will mile three quarters and We'll pick up. Probably pick it up you know as they as they make the turn. Is that That certainly bottom. Where's he? Where's the? Where's the? Where's that? Turn that they they come to. The kind of famous turn in. The canir to stretch. You go well and We'll pick up the copper horse Andy Capp, these have been fun, and of course, Kev finished with a with a bang yesterday kept. Let's look I had as we watch ahead to Thursday the Thursday card. And of course it is Gold Cup Day as well as the Great Three Jersey we talked to Vance Hansen yesterday. Don't have a full. Time frame as we did yesterday Monday. So let's kind of jump through here and get. Some of the top plays Thursday card. Starting with gold, and it definitely looks like Stratovarius is to to these strong favorite. He's probably GONNA be want to are so. you know he's. He's one of before he's Good Sharp. In the Coronation Cup over. Over, and among the half. You know. Get they fast I think there's you know. Probably won't be too many horses to beat them. On I. Think like you know I I'm probably looking more towards someone who can come sack are maybe written. He plays in the race and I think it looks like. We'll be run at a fairly decent cliff. And you've got the likes of them. Withhold, an Afro. COUPLA confirmed front runners. Who you know, it's a long way. Two and a half miles, incongruent company and You know. are kind of a little bit against the grain and maybe. You can find the confederacy ridden. The, consecutive Stratovarius not the number to me. CONES and Jamie Osborne Sunkei this week is at a couple of plays, and we've got the mount the Moment Jim Crowley on board as well. It interesting he's. He's run all right like he. He ran in his races in and Saudi. Arabia wanted to de the that is kind of the two hundred cap on came second to the. Very. Very good call to win the French there and he. He has loans relatively okay over. Nearly two miles. He has I says what what may benefit from the in some kind of cutaway. He has a few stall issues Katie GonNa make to fall into the salt. He'll because. One of these exaggerated homes abroad I think pretty clear. The likes to withhold natural. Go maybe got kicked monster. Napa road is concerned more when thick Florence and. Then and Can expect it over to to mark for fifty mighty. Still getting home. We know he can do us and cost. With plates in it last year technician as the young horse on the. Born again. A lot of horses proven very good over two miles and two months fortress stretches from so I'm just ready to get a little bit of value on on the counter, and with with an eye doctor rated home, maybe to the places. About how about the Jersey the group three that precedes earlier in the on the card the nine thousand five Easter yet. It does a great rate. The walking I think particularly some of the US races later on the air expedite. Into nineteen and then went on to win the. Two Mile So. You know. All good horses on like seven furlough voice was going eight say furlong the in state and yeah I think like starting points I think is. Is King Leonidas and four sunk frankie and run re really really good right salons against a very smart prospect. Charlie will be get him seven pounds on a good beating. You know they. They were finished a clear. It was over eight furlong. He. You. Wouldn't ideal going back to sevens, but he'll be fines and. I think he's probably the market leader. and. You know I think he's I would put it wording for for ropy guests to have hockey winner right, but he ran even in a lot of the goes to roles races. Last year was always all round, second third fourth. And he'll be written to play the played again and he will, and he does have a little bit of after he was. He was six in the Coventry last year two hundred to one, so he'll visit price again. He was only beaten to land over six. Seven. Furlong probably will be fine, and he got be. He'd be written to come lace. You know try to to to go knock the Michael Clayton. And Just, looking, for what number is he? He is. A. Rope Oh. Come on. He's he's at the top of the page so I didn't even see. Tom Que- aboard to twenty, two one on the morning line, the twelve ropy guest and Then King Leonidas, who of course was also favored? By Vance, Hansen when we talk to Vance yesterday the card tomorrow starts with the handicap again. The Golden Gate Mile and a quarter then the Wolverton also A mile and a quarter. And then comes the Jersey the three, the Chesham and the two year olds. In the CHESHAM and I don't th. That is not DETTORI is not. Involved, In in this then the Gold Cup the pretend. You're handicap, which is one of the miles and I'm GonNa. Ask You for something there. CAV and then the Sandringham Handicap two-mile mile. Cards with mile events with with big fields. Let's pick up though let's pick up the NIGHTCAP here at the copper horse. At Royal Ascot. Jew, by horizon that can go jacket of Rancho this next and Shaleen. She's against writing rela whites and green colors alongside all right sunshine and wider out of those Max. We can there followed through. By. Then Claret jacket as a race towards the final mile and a quarter racing in company with here from now amazing right in the same jacket or read copies a length half behind those terrorists and rock in the whites and orange colors to be a better length and a half behind those two manny up yellow cap and Red Cap, the best turned out when a deal dollar it was the rear of the field, as they had then right down toward swindling bottom at approaching the final mile of this culpa host handicap fell Joe Funding. Take him a long lead by two. Zucchini and yellow colours on fi general prince, running in second place, and then comes the Black Sleaze Pat daubs on floating artist around the outside of Ron Moore and Kaleida pink out there in third and fourth places together yellow copies Nesto Ben cut is to won't see Inner Bonding Rail, a blue jacket phobia buick on the outside with Joe by horizon the. Ranch David probe behind those bit ever problem back in the field that for all right sunshine. Shaleen has made away rights around the side here. White Jacket whiteface chestnut. Messo vested a Sousa goes widen races right up with them now so failed from shale leaders t on the coast Free Jada Princeton to buy horizon collide the next pair of Ronaldson flooding outisde branch, and the maximum Canada Nester all right sunshine and Selena behind these then comes here now for that Histon Rock, and behind that his try to make some progress, I'll. Turn towards the home state on Shaleen. She's raised from division. Right into the lead now a condo. The home turn shows with a very narrow advantage to hawk, fell races against running well in feature, prince behind does end up blue targeted to buy horizon Colli behind days look to the right here coming from right off the paces, Mondia, and that man Jim Crowley, but food prince has taken it up now on. On. Short clear got into a three length lead I'll nine years moved the second rancher. The Max can collide behind those getting closer on the inside, alright sunshine, but it's so come on advantage for Jared Princeton. This will not because feature breads. Andrew said he won't by many Lens. Cellino thirty two second position later on. I'll matters pack inside the maximum cam behind those the floating artists Ron China and Kelly right. Well. It's going to be Jerry prints resoundingly actually for Roger Variant, and at semi and I think it was nine two to five to one. The last time we looked and give you a confirmation on that and I think it was maybe second. Was Second, choice Virginia three actually got down. Yeah did go favored, three, two, one, three, two, one and collide ended up at seven to to the the Judd Mont runner, so it's ten sixteen fifteen seven. Ten Sixteen. The Sixteen Cellino was eight to one Oh Shane Murphy. got past thou- Manja, and we had mentioned Crowley Simcock and that was eleven to one and then. The MACs weekend was thirteen to one James. Doyle for Mark Johnston so that closes out day, two of royal. Ascot and we're with Kevin Humphreys. You Follow Kevin Kevin. K. E. H. You got about five more minutes Cav and let's Get a couple of ideas about those handicaps at the end of Tomorrow's card. Those two mile events, the Britannia and the Sandringham. Yet yes, so maybe starting with the I am the last. MILE RATE FOR FOR PHILLIES and? Became starting point here own surprisingly as his junk thing with African drain, who comes here often very impressive run over seven furlongs against a horse. Racing the hundred. and. Eighty and so you know. Like it's. Nineteen them, and you'll probably six, four, zero, seven, two four is the latest price. Honor, so it's very very short and. So we. Got Three. Maybe you're starting point. We have seen a few cousins, horses back upstairs, performances, and like Lord Dork, but we've also seen a few likeness, Yoda had toppled phrases on having necessarily performed, so he'll maybe for for your phillies. She she. She had her own your last weekend and maybe. The money again and. If, you like her. She could be on the rating if you don't. It and development up to. An order horses I'm. Know. Probably wanted to stay towards I like in his To carried interest, number Turkey north from route back written by Harry Bentley again has proven. and. She's trade on, and you weren't quite well in in Chelmsford and just over a week ago. 'cause a five hundred penalty for us but I think. She comes in. To, put a nice like and. She's and she's. Definitely of interest. And and you know I think there's. The. Other night I. Think it's probably there's there's not many that I kind of had a very strong. Look at you know. What a lot of these he'll finish. With the trails you. They're proving a rates not. Just like the point so much wanted them on on an awkward car. I think you know the? Feeling. On your curving, maybe value get. Very Short, quite famous. That's the Sandringham and the Britannia. Britannia is the same sleep the. Three year old version of the haunt. COPS uncouple the. Today over mile and. So again you're you're like you know you're you're looking. You're looking at horses who are trying to to improve? I mean we have A. Short price as here again and Sabi. osame owners of. The last one and you talk to Jericho finest to sort of needles button brilliant as a two year old, but came back with a very strong first time, move wind operations and ten days ago and has been kinda favorite this ever since. You can very short on, and I think you know second time after a wind up making it doesn't necessarily get. The the performance answer. That you that you expect. Maybe to. Kind of. Jotted put it through the mark rains that. That's not show that sort of improvement and we're how potentials Turkey to fifteen or twice copses fever, you know. One Ozal and all these races last here and kept on improving throwing a wicked brin for them, you know. Like say it's not as bad as the board of the Ford. North. was wondering on campus. You know could be better. I think one that. He Probably Toronto On boxer and gelded I pine. Can Rob Beck and hurry thankfully? Scuttle. Steady improves time I. Think you know. Said Freedom Project will be a better. This year old one. Finally felt they were. Getting the hang of things. At the end of the two year old career and I want. Nice eight that he deserved to win, he's he's rated eighty-eight. More to come and yeah. I think they get in the. Concentration and and you know job at hand. He's he's made the. Amid literal price. Coach wound very very low. Twenty, two one for Great Ambassador Who's the twenty one for raith back and the fifteen dance fever. for Clive Cox and I. Guess we should just mention just because. Catches my eye enemy for Gosden and Qatar racing and at O'Reilly. happens to be eight to one and broke. His maiden. At, ascot in the fall, go in the seven eighths so I thought enemy with that that solid run at at Yarmouth to prepare for this. I thought enemy. Probably if you're looking for a logical fold in with the fifteen to one dance fever, and the twenty two one great ambassador on Friday. The action then turns to things like the Commonwealth Cup and the Norfolk and we'll try to get those thoughts in tomorrow, so thanks for this and Good luck tomorrow and will maybe. Late in the show and and do the Friday Saturday. Yet. And yet happy to share my talk as well and look hopefully will be better than the L.. Better better than today will will get a few dark jeans. Marlins right recipe. Well, and when you're hitting twenty-three two ones and three hundred dollar exact as you only need only did a couple of those over the course of the stat Kev Humphries, everybody and the last night again eight thirty or so I transfer cabs right up to the website and. Appreciate Capstein as well today and I apologize to set Merrill. We'll try to get to sap tomorrow. Actually maybe better with the Belmont draw about to start at NYRA DOT, com. Thanks the Dillon Donnelly which was really. Inspirational honestly sit Fernando Siro Watch, pedigree focus brought to you by hill, and Dale and Canterbury, Mike who hit for fifty, six, thousand and change. Last week and of course, Canterbury and Indiana with the low cost pick five today and every day that they run. Good luck playing today, everybody we will come to you. Live tomorrow from Belmont Park yes right. I know? I'm excited to. Everybody. Thought you in the morning? Dog.

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How Many "chips"

How Many Podcast

46:23 min | 1 year ago

How Many "chips"

"I heard you believe Retha Bungalow. Like me you then. You must Beatles Song let's together you just follow the bouncing Fritos I I. I am go stunned I want him from Hawaii. I'm free throw. Give me three coast nine. Be Your friend the free throw Bundy though. You must not have now once and girls you are Bandido using the free throw by John and you'll look of a crunchy free those Gordon Jeeps as Nice as much money bungee going. How many how many how many how many one two three four. Five six nine both fast. What did I get up to? Hello and welcome to a new episode of how many the only podcasts on the Internet that really counts. I am one of your host Jesse Jackson and today we are officially inning on the air. Because we have a food topic but before we get to that on the panel. Today is junior. Well Scott and Let us talk. So this is Scott Topic. What do you got fourth ships? Young Jesse we're talking Erik Estrada and Larry. Yeah we're GONNA talk. We're going to see how many good chips there are out there and I'll just totally blown away with doing the research on this. Just breaking how many chips there are out there different kinds of so. This is a recruiting episode. We're going blue. Chips and Poker. Chips appropriate So I if I just warned us before I hit record. We don't need to go on here. I'm on I'm sorry if this was a junior. Bought top five bottom five on chips poker chip libby over to blue chip. Yeah okay so I pulled this list from a few different lists of the interwebs and I was really surprised of their stuff on your that. I'd never heard of so. I'm thinking that some of this kind of heavily influenced by the northern so for our rule straight yet. What are you defining as a chip? Well I would say it's basic your basic chips. They're not crackers. You know basically potato and corn chips potato accordions. Ace is some kind of snacking line. 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There's really a small sampling that I from but I would not have thought this I would have thought maybe twenty five all right so art so now than before. We got our numbers. Are we saying barbecue? Potato chips out creamed potato chips because there was I. Think you WANNA stick with like rough like a brand of chip seventy five. So you know. Included in that are some of the different subcategories and some of the makers. You'll have a different maker to also make an onion right. There's some that are better than others. According cake starving never seventy-five way back to the number one was and you're keeping track. I already track yes. The number seventy five was Thomas Vinegar and salt and so out on vinegar flavor. Chips can't stand. Those vinegar is not my bag. Either I cannot. I'm out on Tom Hayes. Tom's Tom's is low end. Bill legalising meet Tom like they have like a like a hot. Shutter Friar Bacon Cheddar. Friday so I am a fan of the salt vinegar chips till I have the bag. And then like okay. I'm good now for another couple of months. This is Mike like when I get it. I really enjoy it. But it's okay. I've had enough so I would vote. I would not move from Thomson now. It saved by salt vinegar for another one. Pack all right the next one on the the list which I would consider probably the lowest end of the chip would be the planters cheese ball. No now I like cheese but it does after a while the array like if you have like two or three they they go down really smooth but then once you get to like seven eight you start to mmediately lose interest which is why a lot of times you'll buy that ten of planet tea and they'll they'll just there for a year before you actually politics uses a proper movie. Yeah I'd say now this heard of hers hers salt and Vinegar. At are. I've heard her her. But I doubt again vinegar. Yoda pringle wavy. Yes pringles Kriegel but wavy potato chips. I'm not the biggest fan of those I like. I like certain Kriel's though I would say yeah I would. I would vote. I would vote for the prebuilt yes? I'll always pringles criminals. Eighty eight flavor pridwell more or less unless it's a bad flavor but that was so off jost chips sour cream and toasted onion now. I like our payment of onion. I'm Kinda like Jesse in terms of Ah Bag a small bag and then I'm done for like months but I don't like it enough to WanNa say yes and I. I don't. I don't have a lot of faith in the off brand. You're at the Texaco. Or The or the or the lucky truck stop on a road trip and of these bins. Yes yes so. I didn't up review to sue the gas station. Yeah not counting okay. This one I had not heard of you guys might be more hip to this one rap. Snacks Honey Jalapeno does we were driving to New Orleans. Yeah few years ago It was inbetween Here in the gas station I was like what is that. What is anywhere? It's A. He's a rapper. But I HAVE RYAN. They have different. Robbers have their own flavor rap. Snacks Honey Jalapeno. Fed like snoop dog had like a we flavored chip. Yeah I don't know him out on the cat. Okay lays Thai sweet Chili High Sweet Chili. Yeah tripped up. Okay cal- Bourbon Barbecue It sounds a Doug Berman. That's right up Outta Jesse Kettle. You're usually good chips. I'm going to vote. Yes okay key with cuddle is hostage be too sick like those. Yeah that's the perfect thickness of a little bit thicker than normal but not to. Absolutely our best sounds interesting. I'll go about your. I'll go with the consensus. I've never had it okay interesting. They flaming hot cheetos. No I hate any flaming hearts. Ready to Plough Mu. I'm almost out on any bait related. Get all I look. I'm I'M GONNA have a chip FRY that as us. Because they seem lighter they don't feel heavy after you live. I'm anti eighty whatever upset. Noble one I love months count. Joe's lend is a big fan of munches too and it's not something that we regularly by but like on a road trip that oh much exactly blocked on the bag permanently. Okay for lunch shows but it's not my number one. I do this kind of a lighter. Extreme feel to it but has the taste. The flavor is different. It's not your normal potato chip flavour similar to print goes. They're not real potato chips. They have my bag of shift. I Love Okay coundon. There's no one. I have heard his wife. Oil CHIPS NOT FAMILIAR Z. W. F. E. L. chips blue rifle. We're just regular his wife as Weichel Tower. Nobody ever heard. It's wireless okay. This this is an interesting play with. I had not heard from this brand. Doritos Dinamika. They must be like some hot version spicy fees and all I can think of this got to be really now. I loved Torito's but this particular flavor thumbs down much now. Is that a smaller version of the month. I don't familiar with. I'm not familiar with that too with the bag. Looks like I can't remember. It's fucking visualize it. It's been on since I put this together. I want to say off brand fritos really I think. They're corn chips. Okay Oh so. Munchies is a trail. Mix apart kinds of chips. Got cheetos in all. Did I love the check? Mix kind of that version of that. Yes. You're thumbs up accounted okay against greatest fits okay. It's a RONCO Tae Tell Collection of it's another breath. I had heard of poor brothers have hero. No really four brothers For the rich brothers version and I just don't think once again I'm not a big fan of really really spicy. So the Habanero andbranch dot no two outs. She just went next I might try. It was if I had it in front of me. Another poor brother's Parmesan garlic flavor. Parmesan guess garlic new. So I think I think there's a cracker her it's done at one of the one of the Triscuit triscuit or something has a lot of trivial is yeah so I I've tasted but I'm intrigued. Put me down. I would count it. Okay Bob I'm OK okay This one sounds very ethnic and I can't really pronounce it Junior maybe you can't because it looks like it's from south of the border because I know you're Spanish is relayed all the spell it X. O. C. H. I. T. L. Tortilla chips walk saw his awesome off shawl or something and it sounds very authentic. Wasn't Nothi in Mexican insanity pepper the simpsons they come from Guatemala. And say I'M GONNA I'M GONNA say Nobu but this does bring up an interesting story. So when I was in my middle school years there was a very popular chip That had a very ethnic sound to it. Such Chereau's anybody remember some chair. Wow I do not but that because of that it this is a very magoo story. That became my nickname. On the my football team everybody would just refer instead of calling me by property son likes. Look Daryl's everybody was called including my coach as insurers wow desert trade to ensure they were not very good Takis. Aren't those also an ethnic variation. Sounds like an Asian kind of get a vote. No because I I think. There's plenty of Tortilla chips decried on. Cbs is we. Should only. You can only go so far in the generic version of a visa shift? Yeah so and are four brothers. They make another offering your poor brother's poor brother's helping you. Now know aiding spicy no tattoos skins Cheddar and bacon flavors. Sound good shoes. This they cut. I know that Friday makes a version in their brand of like it's it. It looks like potato skin potato chips. Okay so `tatoes `tatoes can. It's a good list skins booze. But they're they're down interesting. No okay you also know. Deep River valley onion deep river. Maui no flavor yeah. I don't think so this one sounds like it's it's named after Bob Old Dutch loaded spot. I know that sounds familiar to okay. Let's see salt and vinegar dirty potatoes. No no vinegar again is enough lays lyman. Combo spilled sprite. All over your. I'm not entirely a hundred percent of close to but now if you guys are no wise sour cream and onion wise falls into the hairs and Talks. I give it to me lance okay. This one's pretty generic Miss Vicki's yet. Oh Miss Vicki's yeah that's one of the isn't is SASKIA. Has that miss? Vicki chips is what is in one with Randy. Men Rennie. Macho man. Savage wouldn't that his side. Kick Miss. Vicky Veronica I thought or something like that right something I miss. Vicki is looked like this. Yes Oh yeah. Yeah yeah tells. List was missing Vicki's particular. She has yet. She has a lot of different players. Yes that's a decent chip on their reflect kill style. Yeah say are Luau barbecued Hawaiian ships. I'd be didn't trying not pulling earlier. Okay why potato chips terrible wise with our now. Okay your former W recognized toes-to-toes baked three cheese. Caso your account. That sounds good. I'm just he's out on bail out on dates so pick me with the whole three cheese. I probably wouldn't touch it but to save. I'm lacking of cheese flavored chips. I like I like cheese flavor. I just don't like cheese residue so you've got to have something that doesn't the powder like it's right. I don't want my I don't have to go crap off. Getting trump skin each chips watches porn. Ones Arts piece. Okay pork writes. Yes now now I. I always say that. I don't like spicy but I do like spicy but only in combination with some kind of Coca Cola product. I need a soda. Yes affiliate ahead and pork rinds. Again in it's funny I in my mind I divide the chips. I have here at the house even the sandwich and the chips on a road trip and Pork Ryan's like you buy that big of your eyes and you got either your coke or diet coke in your changing the bag back and forth through like if Linda driving like Oh. I'm doing so I'm a big fan right. It is not with a sandwich. Yeah because it. The she gets a standalone. So is there a difference between pork? Rinds cheated on and cracklins or those all these are the saints records are smaller and think those their fancy Individually made bigger in Louisiana crap. Very vaguely draw in Louisiana Toast. Tito's touch of wine. Nope NO I don't like any the any of the line. I don't hate the lime flavored stuff but even if that's all there is but I never go to market backs it's ours. Then let's see pringles honey mustard. Yes pringles anthony listed as one of your favorite condiments to. I don't know if I'd like it chip. I don't remember eating it. I like honey mustard salad dressing. Not sure if I I would not buy that. So I'm gonNA vote Nokia. I am not the biggest honey mustard fan. I would probably say no to your demands. Doritos SALSA also shouldn't be part of the chip. It's Dick Sadler. Yes to things like tuna fish feed demanding it okay. Doritos Salsa Verde Green. Yeah I'm plus Salsa Verde is overworking Kim Wexler as it is referred. Tgi Fridays tenor sour cream potato skin. Yes that's what I was talking to. Yes I like those K- road trip documentary. I guess See what's about those? You can find those at the ninety nine cent store. Because they're so all the all potato chips yes. I like that brand their cattle. They they have a nice. I know what they are like a White House on the band trying to remember if I like them or not. But I'll I'll say do they also do like. I was going to do the top. Cape COD POPCORN. Yes demanding bugles. Were better than the regular but I ll. Bugles are another thing that I don't think about getting and then we'll buy we just bear with the much although every time I eat bugles I start feeling salt overload. Because they're so did you not put them on your fingers you're saying yes to the bugles. Even though they killed the Radio Star Talk Radio Star no Yes to the bugles. But I'm out on Bugle boys so they're offshoots Gene Alba all right. Okay deal pickle deal. I'm not flaming hot munchies. Nope no no flaming hot band lays hickory barbecue with that. Yeah it seems like a standard kind of neutral on that so it comes to potato chips. Barbecue is probably go to. I don't really like just plain potato chips. I like the plane. I don't like a lot of flavors because the players to Musa are they taste. Incredibly artificial. I did truth chemical but really the flavors. The ones that are good. The flavours moral standalone snack the generic potato chip with no flavor. Is you eat that with the sandwich. We'll see me. I loved the pepper. I say about capper nine the salt to meet that daily. That is a good player. See-saw for you went on to see and pepper. That's what those are. I am okay. Greatest chip ever sunshine original. I'm with you. That's a that's top fine. I like send ships but I liked the Cheddar such as the plane to like. I Dunno almost like wheat. It's almost like triscuit. Kind of laser original. Yes no own on. May he says no because it's faked but I like I like I'll I can take such French onion now shift An- not not only make one onion slap sour cream onion exception. Someone wait until you which is weird because I like French money and diff. But yeah don't like it it's like the saucer you want separate as a dip. Yeah you doubled if it ships with Yeah Okay. Taco flavored doritos yes. That's the now now. Fake I I like them all the time. But if they're a party I will I will eat. Yes okay I would have said no I would say no okay host host proud. I'M NOT GONNA fight. I would say okay. All Right Signal Jalapeno Cheddar Cheetos. No ANYTHING ALL RIGHT. Cheetos puffs. Yes yes yes. I do not like puffs but I like the regular Tito. So I'm going to say no I will be outvoted but yes I like. I like the fluffy take all. This reminds me of the circus. Peanuts got the big big jar that happy serving the South Park because Kirkman is always demanding cheesy poofs. I'll give it because I will eat them if there will not by okay. Okay tortilla chips Tortilla. Like you get enough so the question is are they good by themselves or do you have to have Caso? I need them in combination with case. Oh Salsa Something like nachos like they. They're the good base of what could be very good appetizer. Like if if all we got left to Surtee as I'm making a ham sandwich I eat it but I'm a little disappointed like some flavor on which which restaurant do you think has the best tortilla chips. I think ill Phoenix by far. Eddie Chiles has the best strategic chilies. Because they're really light and they really do a good job with salting man whose somebody seasons them a little bit Marta Straight. I just thought you know because he's like that. Seized power affects. So are we on the. Yeah generally yes it. Yes because it's the basis of what will become a great appetite. Okay yeah absolutely all right. Kevin ships salt and fresh ground pepper. Yes I do actually. Yeah that's a good one. Okay Laced Kennel cooked sea salt and cracked pepper. Yes there you go Sun Chips Guards Salsa. Do them risk the worst. Takis know what it's like a scene the bag it's like a bag of flautre's it's like their little roll up things. Yeah it's like there's no meat or anything inside but they're thin like Straw. It's like Straw chips light. You're not generic kettle chips. Yes you have a quick ketchups all farmer that ships better than regular lay's potato chips I do like them better than Way It's like if I had to choose. Yeah I would do that okay. Tgi Fridays Cheddar. Bacon potato skins came up earlier now that she jack Fridays. But it wasn't Cheddar. Bacon Potato. See us it. Sounds like a good fleet. We had we had cheddar sour cream earlier Okay this Cheddar Bacon. I'll say yes anything with Bacon in it is okay okay. Okay Andy CAPP's hot fries. Yes flies authorized Georgia Georgia's hut fry player of the week. Exactly are in the top twenty five okay. Flaming hot cheetos Zo. No flaming hot now okay. Barbecue Baked Lay's yes. I like baked account. Those Buddy Jesse's a no so I would not eat barbecue vic visit me. That's still chemically tainted but I will give it to you guys on team because I'm not it is the pin barbecue seasoning on Sawdust. But he's is one is supported. Do I'm not strong enough to either. Toes-to-toes Scoop yes. Yes that's that was. Whoever invented that concept was a genius because being able to dissolve guacamole all over it is yeah pringles barbecue. Yeah I'm okay. Yeah. I'm ramp frills fritos. Chilli cheese the best. That's the best of all. The fritos scoops is the best of the FRITO number. I'm I I perform plane but I certainly like this. You know those. Don't mind about those is when you go and you buy them at the grocery store. Their bag is not as big as like a bag of doritos. You get them in these little house sized bag charge the same as if you were. Why do they not just call him? Frito pie like it's it's basically Frito Pie. Flavor like a trademark fritos honey barbecue twist no I. Don't there's too much going on there? I had runyan's runyan's not funny funniest their off brand flavors that I'm going to say now I see I would say no because it sounds like onion and I am I do search for Runyan's and it just brings up restaurant are they is it. The it was it was a flavor. They hand out at the finish line of the woods on run. Here's your on you. I'm not familiar. I'm going to say okay. Pringles PIZZA PIZZA FLAVOR HIPS. Be Willing to give it a try. I would not buy it but I'm not gonNA say no once again too much going on the flavor chip and I guess it's a cracker that I've had like the goldfish. I've had any goldfields with among those. Were pretty good. I have to admit I will I will I? Will Councils. Pizza lays salt vinegar vinegar vinegar? He's him and hot. I if I'm going to pick up an I'm I one time every three or four assault later though. I want the I want the kettle or the Zaps brand those are that I would pick that incentives? Yes yes. I'm a fan of almost any ZAP sticks out that whether very local to regional yes okay. Spicy sweet dill dill. Flavors doesn't pickles but death. Now some ships harvest Cheddar. Yeah that's the best of Sun Chips. Originals ruffle sour cream and then that is the only acceptable sour cream and onion agree. That is we got is the bestseller ideas that yeah. I agree with that. Yeah all right Straight up plain everyday where I got my start. Doritos NACHO cheese to reduce the GERMANACOS DORITOS. That's the ones I used to eat. I used to get pissed. Why is it always Nacho cheese here? I want to read Yeah I would too. That's a good had non nacho cheese. It seems like not cheeses. Become the default wants what. I think of plane read for. They are hard to find. I agree pringles Cheddar cheese. Yes you do. Get the residue gets. Don't like the residue but I'll I'll mention reckless Katie. We are in the top. Ten extremely chip Globes is a great idea that you're gonNA Shark back okay. So number nine lay sour cream and onion. Yes if I like the ruffled better but if you WANNA have the non I liked. I liked the way better than I do. The plane chips on anything's but yes I wouldn't when it comes to potato chips I think I like ruffles better. Because they're thicker and they don't seem to probably better for dip. Yeah I got like Lay's chips they just seemed to crumble the greasy every seat. That's that's my hook off the field greasy voted. I'm okay with that. I'm just I'm fine either way. I just prefer prefer wouldn't touch them because our criminal okay. Everyday great survival situation freed ups offering some funds regular. I mean they're they're they're fine by themselves. They are great with the Frito Pie. You know. versatile see them the same way. I see the Tortilla chip. Were there like the basis of what could become a really good snack. But I'm happier eating fritos that by Ham Sandwich. I tortilla chips. Yeah ships through not great with the Sandwich. Although if I'm GONNA eat just regular fritos I want the fritos scoop scoop yeah fritos. Who Does that ring of this east? Those you dip into something. The regular feels too small red win. When I buy Fritos I tend to buy the scoops but if there are displaying. Freitas's it's not like I don't enjoy. That's what I was raised on the gap. Exactly my mom would get those bags of twenty. Yeah and that's probably back when they still had the Frito Bandido Scott I I am free too little numbers of racer in there. Yes you can take that and put it on your yet. You're the cat's ASS hats hours pre Lula Georgia another really good thing about Fritos if you mix them with like scrambled eggs. That's that scramble. Ed another tangent will text you. Can you eat chili without either fritos tortilla chips? Like if you just had a by Chile can you? I mean like salty salty cracker that can do corn bread. Corn breads. But you're right. I wouldn't just WANNA eat a bowl of Chili with not something to get one of so I could if I absolutely had to but it it's like like eat pancakes without syrup. But yeah you know. Yeah you're right. I think that that that crunchy element to Philly adds something episode. I Agree Okay. Pringle sour cream and onion so many sarpedon any doubt now like. I'm going to say no. You're okay number six original pringles. Yes yes top top five yes okay number five ruffles Cheddar sour cream. Yes here Sarpi was good answer okay. I'm all right. Yeah I'm okay I like it. We'll give it to you. Number four lays barbecues. Yes yes that'd be known. I don't make that's one of our favorites in the lace barbecue better than they do the ruffles barbecue at that size. They take like this plane straight chip gather. They have been yet or not with our number. Three cool ranch doritos yes. Absolutely not my favorite but I- I acknowledged their greatness is just isn't one of mine. I am not as in love with ranch as a lot of other people. I don't do ranch with my you know buffalo wings or anything though I do you like the street straight after eight. Maybe I do love Like ranch dip like we have here. Yeah Rachel Cruze dip. It's of seasoning. Yeah okay I'm going to say no. Yeah ranch beats me. Exemption genius doesn't exist down the number three and I respect that you know. Yeah Okay Number. Two lays classic. Yeah you have to include lunch basically potato chip and the number one chip according to my son. GonNa go back. I'm Kinda beat down if there's just like when you go to the The company luncheon. You know you could say `let's Kinda of basic the number one. It seems like there is some massive earlier. Yeah I think that it's just a case of LEX. This is what the list gave me. Yeah and I'm sure there's a ton of stuff out there to get phone calls. I mean we. We have a follow up chip episode. Okay so what's number one number one. What do you think is number? Nacho cheese or yeah it's gotta be it's gotTa be not cheetos because they haven't come up yet. Yeah and now I would say Nacho cheese arenas but they left out free two scoops might we in. Yeah so there's three or four that I wanNA talk about okay. According to my research number one chip cheetos regular cheetos. Now I will tell you I think. That's kid factor. I think that's also in I because of the cheese residue I might know and just like a couple months ago. Linda said hey you never by Cheetos I know why would I should. I really liked Tito's in so bottom and like Chris rented the bad before she could eat it again and I try to Mike. Wow I forgot how much fun but doubted that so I wouldn't put it one but I do agree. It belongs in the top five. I was thinking about when I saw it about Eljay Chris Renwick. We have a thing. We're talking chips. Would you guys put Cheetos as the number one chip versus Lays sour cream onion or lay's barbecue cheetos. Okay that's what I was just on the story. Yeah yeah so that Nacho. She's the radio has not made the list. Yeah it's not even topic we have discussed. LemMe good seventy five chips and that's not make. It tastes good but that residues such a week of any do you do in. That's it's kind of like if you're eating ribs like we just like US asking me meet. No it's massive work and you have a pile of bones and hands are all either way you feel about is. That's how I feel about crawfish like it's a lot of I don't having appeal a love crawfish but I'm one of them like in the suit now at only the only argument is and I agree but the experience of a crawfish boil is a lot of. That's going good the corn and the potatoes in people that put the sausage in their suck in the tail. Yeah that's a fun. Experience to rights is hard unless you eat a lot of corn and potatoes in the sausage. It is hard to fill up just crawfish. 'cause you're like this you believe? We have a a a dear friend every year. He has his crawfish boil. It's million visor. He just called me last night. And it's like here's question for you. Okay what do you think you need to go three crawfish tables that we've got two good sized yelp is because it's that season now right coffee seasonality it's mark all right so I think about okay. Let me let me ask you this when I did the full. Listen I was thinking it's like cheetos number one but also started thinking. How many different ads for chips do I see on? Tv and cheetos is probably the one that comes to mind. The most often that districts chester gaffe. I see that one all the time tomatoes does again anything FRITO. Lay that so You on figuring out scoops. They left off scoops. They left out the door yelling. You're just he said Nacho Cheese Rubio's past if you're right in yes let me let me give him down there. One of the biggest omissions unless I didn't just miss hearing it. But is that not on this list really chip but eighty? Let me. Let me this attitude. My runyan's was unfair. Okay some spare Rita's is offering is a definite okay. And was there another writing another one that I thought of? I didn't hear any but she does. A regional just like like zaps. That's next remember. Jesse lever grab favors. Scott Remember Charles Chips. Those big metal s and. Yeah Yeah I do girls because I like the crap flavor. That's never let you write about these album. Juniors off brand and then like what we were talking about. I do zaps chips. If you want to count that as a writer on well I've I've been on the record. I think any ZAPS are really well. Done verify that if I'm GONNA PICK ZAPS OF SALT. Vinegar usually will pick the zaps to do that. That scratches that issue for like a month or two you know like like Oh really want those for the football game and then okay. I've had them and they were good but now you know it's enough now talking about Tom's chip leaving the only one. The only one that I liked that we mentioned was the Bacon. Cheddar fries from the Tom Slade. Yes the spare brands between Tom's wise and lands which which is the biggest song of the end fair and like they have the Andy Capp hot fries. We don't like those but for under the one of Linda's once again we go back to road trips. She will oh Cheddar fries gets and she'll get that we'll get deep Turkey and those would not count like we talked about earlier when it came to Cape Cod. They have those Cheddar popcorn bags do a bag of chips. Popcorn is separate ideas like S. T. wife you've ever seen puff corn before. Yeah those are. She loves those butter flavors. And what this so spared like really good and then like cheetos decides a cracker. But I love the Sim- similar that we talked about. The you know the malady. The greatest hits I love when we do it. A cheeto. Mix that we'll chicks me examples. But they'll do a cheeto mix where they have different cheeses and different things in there all right. So the numbers are we settled. The number is With the advent of Doritos Nacho cheese giving a total seventy six to choose from. We HAVE THIRTY FOUR. That may only did fix bunions to count it right. Yes we allocated not say it's thirty five. Okay somebody say thirty five. Didn't they know I said sixty junior forty five five five and Scott? Twenty five but again he knew the list. Yes everybody win over. Yeah yeah he would have won. Yeah so when I'm compiling my home any four board. I'm going to give Scotland aside. I'm going to give myself though. Absolutely yes All right so I think it's time to chip and dip away so junior. How can they reach this? Miskin underscore juniors where you can find me on twitter. You can email podcast. How many podcasts? G MAIL DOT COM. I should probably get this pre recorded like Jerry when he does. 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Best Of (Could LeBron score 50 ppg?, How much does Brady have left?)

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Best Of (Could LeBron score 50 ppg?, How much does Brady have left?)

"What up undisputed listener. It's rj young host of the number one ranked show. I am your fix for all things college. Football giving you the wrong takes all with of shannon and skip. May i always bow down when it comes to the college football. You know i'm coming through with that. You know this is with the oklahoma. You know that the man shannon is on an abandoned state and we're going to keep it real right here right now subscribe to the number one ranked show wherever it is. You get your podcast on youtube. You know what it do. I hope to see you soon. Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host jenny taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions skip shannon. Let's go wants to make sure everyone knows we can sell out. And it's in buckets putting instagram post on his story that had a stat and read quote from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. Lebron one hundred seventy seven straight regular season without taking thirty thoughts next game. He did cease four fifty. Seven points on thirty four field goal attempts. Lebron's clicky hushing above and hashtag wash king below shannon. I don't know you talk about your stats. But does he have a point now where you really got some for him and just a minute skill. He does have a point because lebron is really never just focused on score and he was always asked to do more than just score the basketball. Some of the more prolific scores were never asked to be as complete cobra had shocked. The rebound jordan had dennis rodman to rebound durant. Had surgery. Bacher had a stephen adams you always had rust initiate. The offense derek fisher initiated a lot of the offense for the For the lakers k. d. always had russ so yes it just goes just get what you look at it when he used about twenty times the list. He's fifty one percent from fourth. Lebron twenty two twenty four shots. He's fifty percent the floor. Twenty five to twenty nine shots. He fifty percents from the floor when he takes thirty more shots. He's forty nine percent from the floor. So that just lets you know. Just how extremely efficient he is. George shot the ball about twenty three and a half times per game. Lebron james used about nineteen and a half time per game. Lebron average at twenty seven points a game jordan average thirty so just by simple mathematics. Even you take. He don't miss the free throws if you let lebron shoe three and a half mortaza pro-gay that puts them at thirty poor. Lebron so his coaching were saying you cannot chew go. No no no no. That's not what they're saying they say. Lebron only do we lead you to give with this game but we also need you get with thirteen rebounds and eleven assists and i gave that he's talking about. I remember that game. I don't watch them again when he missed the shot. And if you can't get off the kid do you remember. He's lucky shot ever made the call it off the glass fallen out. Stop it. you imagine what he would've had found he any five out of that game sixty plus points. But if all i'm saying is this lebron james would have said you know what had been a situation where he could have just focused on scoring like a lot of the elite scores do. There's no question in my mind. He could have had more opportunities to average thirty points a game but that was never what he was always ask lebron. Yeah we need those twenty seven thirty but we also need eight to twelve rebounds we also need eight to twelve so his. My just couldn't go on score because he also had to do other things. But i do believe had he taken as many shots as jordan. He could have averaged thirty point four career. No question in my mind okay. So the object of basketball is to outscore your opponent. So michael jordan looked at his teammates. And he's like. I could score better than any of these guys combined. So i'm going to take more shots. Because i'm gonna make more worship. Yes i'm gonna make these shots. He was the ultimate as they call them. Bailout guy shot clocks just given to mike and get out of his way because he's going to score at the end of the two thousand four second clock so that we can go to the other end and play defense so my point is that it's it's wrongheaded because if lebron was that guy he would have just said no. Get out of my way. I'm gonna score. If if you wanna average thirty five game. Maybe they would have won some more championship. No guy not. Because why would you distribute to teammates. You don't have as much respect for because you have to skip. Because he had to help rebound he didn't have a guy like dennis rodman. That could go. Get your thirty rebounds in a game. He didn't have a guy like charles. Oakley who had thirty four rebounds in a game dominated rebounded. He never had that Well he could average ten rebounds a game feed really concentrated on six nine to sixty. Yes mike michael jordan's six six minds three inches taller and probably thirty forty pounds heavier. Michael had us it. Michael whe- to score. He had other guys to do all the things that teams after lebron to do he had. Bj armstrong he had other guys that facilitate. He had guys the rebound like wedding. Light caught right like dennis rodman. He had that you look at the other great scores k. D. has stephen adams hair surgery. Baca russ read the point. You look at kobe. Kobe did have shack leffler. Pretend sack didn't make this. Let's not pretend. Shut dominant i love. How do y'all wanna talk about kobe. Y'all this mishit but the moment somebody tried to say something you bring to the equation. Where shack existed in the kobe. Bryant ara- will he did win with pal sol's so let me ask you question name to pull out would you today. One player that lebron james of ever played with in his life that shaquille o'neal name on well i have she kill second on my all time ranking lists so i want you to name the player out that he played with beth. Lebron played with that shaquille o'neal because kobe got that for eight years. What will lebron be if he had set for eight years. Well i don't know. I could ask that about anybody. What if michael jordan had had shack for ten years to one. Because mike mike mike mike mindset with score score score. It wasn't until field came and said look we got to get these other guys that and he talked about the last day. Like no satellite. Doing what. I'm doing a solo. Don't do that now. Don't pretend like a michael taking shots. Because he wanted the championship he wanted to be. He wanted to be a store. You know that would be scoring. Just wanna win championships. So he went six times. The files in one also sits eighty. Yeah what about eighty did not have the township. But if i'm not mistaken magic one. Five hundred eighty in burdwan three. So that was left to two remaining. He could win to it. He had to grow up on your now to get stronger. No no he came to nba at twenty one needed to cut. He came in eighteen. Needed to grow up your guy. I thought ran all those teams. I thought he was the unofficial head coach so if he wanted to take more shots he could've taken more shots but he didn't want to take more shots or he would have because he grew up. His coach taught him the important. Yes corn is important but doing other things. It's also important because when you look at it. Which one of those guys. Kobe george or durant average more rebounds. Which one of those guys average more says and he's right there with those guys. As far as bloodshot feels so in other words it baseball they call that five to when you can do everything here for power hit for average steel field. All that he can do that. He's a five tool basketball player. My turn now. I've let you go on and on and on now the floor belongs to make it away. I do not understand. Lebron's new compulsion with posting gloat post about. I did this. I used to do that. I could have done this. And i could have done that. Could i'm going to paraphrase the shakespeare lawn from hamlet about protesting too much. He does protest too much. He's protesting so much about what might have been what could have been that. You can see his phony goat cases slipping away right before he is so he has to keep posting. Remember me. I am the goat. No i i have a stronger goat case here the michael jordan. When it's just absurd cr that's what this is about. Oh yes well. He's the point about twenty fifteen to seventeen nets. becoming ancient is not bears. the thanksgiv- is that when we talk about elite ingrate scores. You'd never talk about lebron. Even though he averages more career points for game colby even though he took less shots per game even the cabinet rate. He's right there. Would kevin durant so when you talk about great stores. Lebron james never mentioned any fair guys. I'm the great score. I just don't shoot. I didn't shoot the ball like some of these other guys. Because i did other things. Not rebounded is blocked shots. I stole the ball. So let's not if i were to. If it is crab premier three two year fifteen. I'm gonna take that up until then when he left. Cleveland lebron james. Who have taken the fame amount of shots as michael jordan. There's no question in my mind. He would've ever thirty points though seats. Okay if michael jordan had played concurrently with lebron james in this current era thousand nine if overlap jordan net thad overlapped simultaneously. Michael jordan would have averaged forty points a game with these rules where you cannot hand check but hairs the thanksgiving when michael jordan was avenue. Those thirties. how many times did he win the championship. Look at all those years in the eighties when he was thirty. Eight thirty seven and thirty five and thirty two and thirty three championships men then when it started coming down to the twenty eight eighty started getting other people involved. What bill had asked him to do. He's started winning championship. So let me ask you this. At what price are you willing to say. I'm average important but we didn't know championship will average fifty. He didn't win the average forty four. He didn't win. You're looking at katie. Would he ever is thirty two. He did with hard every thirty six. He didn't win so at what price no price he would have won anyway. He probably would have won faster because they could take the pistons. Take him out a games because they could play football with them. They could put their hands on him. They could keep him on the floor. Just don't let him launch their motto leading. Get up in the sky because if he gets into the sky you die. That's how it went in. So they kept him on the floor. They were called the jordan rules. Because you could use your hands. And they did not call it so much harder for him to get past the bad boy pistons or actually bad boy. Boston celtics because with some bad news. Just as physical. Yeah i think that they they get they get past the pistons they were just when you're talking about mahorn atlanta beer in phalle irada. They got. They didn't get a pay. But you look at maceio. Robert pash and you look at the holidays. The holiday will fight even bird even bird. It was real close to play in football. Yes but here's the thing does give the question. Neil you put join this time. Obviously in order for him to average. Forty which i believe he probably could have averaged forty. But he's going to have to the three ball's gonna he's gonna have to be a better than the thirty two thirty three thirty two percent three point shoe because he's going to be able to get to the live because that's that's that's where a lot of it got because he was shooting the ball. I think he shot the ball the year. He averaged thirty seven up about twenty eight times the game. Yep okay now. To my favorite lebron topic free throws or lack thereof. This is what jost drives me out of my off season. Mind i again. I would love to see him post something on where he's actually practicing and making free throws that should be his off season commitment where where he goes in the off season. Says you've already bet you will not even come close because he doesn't work at it doesn't folk s to do all of his ab work and all of his ball that will we'll seriously just shoot free throw shooting. He should shoot a thousand a day. Yeah five hundred a day. I doubt he shot fifty in the off season. He just done do. It's like it's beneath the dignity because he knows he's not very good at it so he doesn't work at. That's where we weren't. Would you believe that right now. Lebron james has missed one thousand. Six hundred and twenty-five more free thousand jordan miss one thousand six hundred and twenty-five. Would you believe that lebron has missed the fifth most free throws in the history of this league and guess who's above him. Big guys with huge hands will check. Dwi and carl malone. Those are the four guys who have missed more. Free throws than lebron james up point guard by trade. He chose well. Is he a three who it is he will. You told me that. He chose to distribute. he only went. Ford okay so he's a point forward whatever sometimes he tries to be a two guard but whatever he's the first guy on this list not a big big guy right will check white. Carl malone lebron. James missed the fifth most free throws how many more free throw. Did you say he missed the one thousand six hundred and twenty five thousand six points. He left on the table and considering that he's two thousand points ahead of jordan and he's still taking fewer. How that possible skilling how could a man and how you could have been so much better you could made more of a go case if you just made half those right. I'm just trying to figure out how can a man play three more years and still have fewer field goal of tips. The michael jordan. The man that that lebron is now chasing kareem abdul-jabbar to be the all-time score in the history of this league. Would you believe that that corinne even has missed. Four hundred and twelve fewer free throws in his nineteen twenty year career. Then lebron has going into year. So lebron's on a horrendous pace of free throw mrs that's even worse than kareem's and kareem was what do we give him seven to seven two inches tall. And guess what when it's all said done Gonna miss more free throws have more points. You're going to be the first guy to ever then. Probably the only guy with forty thousand ten thousand ten thousand rebounds and at least the bare minimum five championship with five. Vp that skill How many losses in the finals. You can give him whatever you got right. Now you're gonna lose five and six. I don't think he's ever going to get back to another file. So he's going to say that when he first lake. Well i didn't see the pandemic coming. I didn't see the bubble coming. I didn't see cubic zirconiums rings who could have guessed cubicle on his team to the bubble and win magazine but he was only one there. Nobody else wanted to be in the ball. You realize emphatic. Point games only only kareem in jordan. Have a high percentage of liberal lebron james shooting fifty nine percent in thirteen career fifty games if you include playoffs all only michael jordan kareem have a higher field goal percentage. I'm sorry lebron it's over. The goat is done. nothing is forty five skill. it's going to be hard. Amanda has forty thousand points ten thousand rebound ten thousand five championships five with five. Mvp he'll be right. There gonna be right there. How's he gonna win another championship with russell. Westbrook are you kidding overshadow. That automatically makes me go there right. That would start to make the case i would give. That's why he chose this because it's either. I'm going to do something nobody else did. Or it's his fault. Because nobody could win with russia which i wish braun could have had a have had rebounded light rodman give anything for that or had a guy like shot off michael. It had a guy in the post steph. curry kill. Lebron had done. If he'd have played next steph curry for three years. what could he possibly doing. Michael jordan won championships with bill winnington as his starting center. You believe that bill winnington skip. I covered the hill. And we'll we'll why cover him at the final four saint john's winnington yes yes championships with a starter. Yes walter bear in chris mother. If you're pretty good. I got scared. But here's the thing the gas now. Contrary to what the old players like to the players now more skilled bill wittington cannot play now. Those guys a lot of those guys could not play because because the game has expanded michael championships with luc. Longley playing in the post luc. Longley remember him move. Long was better than timothy moskva go. I don't know about my do this. Don't do that. you really typified kim. Didn't they wasn't bad yet. Really the guy that may have sixty four million dollars delivered over thirty to me got. Gop got sean pig. Trista play. yeah you do realize they're all those guys were there that night game. Four at lebron's palace in cleveland twenty. What was at twenty fifteen hand. Golden state down two games to one and he shrank. So what about what about yoga going down three two one. Which guys that you know your best player. The he had the russell. Westbrook andy capp. Usually what you just ask you. Why would somebody with somebody else. If they're on the team is the team get ought to blame. He's yours now you'll have put you put the blame on. Everybody else can read the win. You put it on hupa these guy this show. He was playing one zero five. Lebron's eight play one five his whole career. Cleveland is whole career. Kyrenia kevin love. He's playing one on five limits. You question where did he. What kind of re twenty four. Yeah okay you tell me what he did between two thousand three in two thousand and ten in cleveland. Okay yep and what do you have to show for it now. Got swept by the spurs really. Couldn't even win one game. Tim duncan who the greatest greatest power forward ever who are who easily top five player model who you say that the greatest foreign ball player ever. Tony parker we're talking about the guy you call the goat. You couldn't even one home game against guy dismissed him as broccoli team swallow george wise. 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Now believe he finishes out the twenty twenty two seasons killed because that is contracting is fully guaranteed so even if he walk away he gives that money but i believe he fulfills this obligation and plays skip these done a great job barring the two thousand eight season in which he suffered that knee injury. He's been relatively healthy and he did a great job of protecting himself. He doesn't take the big big shots that we see some of the quarter that shot. That just feels to go saturday. We don't see tom. Brady take those kinds of shots. Those kinda shot that forty year old forty four year old guy can ill afford to take. He knows it so he does a great job. Tampa have done a great job. He went to the prime location. Because like i said they got seven guys. They're about to have eight. Because tom brady the top team so the top one hundred player the bucket. Neal's buccaneers feel eight of them. You can make a case if you go to one hundred ten put you put gronk on there. You would. So they got tired of the top one hundred and ten players in the nfl. That's a very good roster and he said it is long feel championship. Quarterback is long about field. I'm not a liability. We're here to tell you probably think you ally ability. They've done a great job. Tom brady has done a great job. Not only understanding and steel warning to absorb and learn have knowledge but he done a great job. We've taking care of himself and he's in a great situation. I don't believe he could've played much longer. The new england because the talent level is not what it is in tampa so skip. I think a lot of that decline that we that we thought we were starting to see wasn't so much him they had around him and he was no longer able to elevate those guys. Because it'll mean couldn't run. They had let amendola go. Gronk was like nah. I can't do this grind. i can't let you beat me up at practice. This all this. And i want to be able to have fun so he went where they got young talent. Mike evans chris. God this young talent off of blind is good and that deepest will be good for a long time so skip almost say he plays until twenty twenty two when i would also like to remind our viewers that you shannon hall of famer have done a great job of motivating. Tom brady year after year after year. Your on undisputed. But would he told me he told you you're tried to retire. You've said that he is arm is in decline and year after year after year. He has said no shannon. No shannon no shanta. Now he tells the great. Peter king that you know i feel really good. Well he should feel really good because it was have off season knee surgery to fix a torn ligament that he played with last year and as peter king points out that at age forty three year ago in a pandemic would know preseason that he proceeded to throw for more touchdowns than patrick mahomes through four last year and more yards than aaron rodgers. Threw four in the bucks won the super bowl by twenty two point what year. And what are your. This could be for those same tampa. Bay buccaneers so the great. Peter king concludes. Now i'd be mildly. Surprised if tom doesn't play beyond forty five beyond the twenty twenty two zero. I wouldn't either. He loves what he's doing. This there is an anecdote where peter king road where he was telling his son. You need to find something that makes you happy everyday to do. Find that your golden ma'am. I jumped out of bed. Said tom father tom. I jumped out of bed every day. I love what i'm doing. He said his trainer. Alex guerrero jumps out of bed. Because alex loves what he's doing well he should because he's working with the gun you know keeping the goat upright so that word is not so much you get paid to work with the goal. He get paid not to work with anybody else. I agree so peter king asks. Do we realize exactly what we're seeing. I think we get numb to it after a while because he also points out. That wayne gretzky was in decline at age. Thirty five and hockey at thirty nine and michael jordan was was thirty four obviously when he had his last great year in peyton. Manning retired at age. Four zero forty. Do we realize exactly what we're seeing i try to. I try to pinch myself every day and say we get to watch him and we get to talk about him. Because no one's ever done this and done yeah right and it looks like he's happier than ever in a situation as you detailed. I don't know what's not to like about this team. I love how bruce arians got on him. Publicly last year seem to just shake. It off was amused by it and todd light. Todd light Jason light keeps doing a better and better job and they keep bringing back guys that i think they couldn't even they go down to like aaron stingy. The backup guard who played down the stretch in the playoffs. They got him to come back for half of what he could really really got monopoly market so they keep pulling off those little moves a man i i. I don't know why would again. I got a knock on wood. Because i hate to even bring it up but he does play a collisions. What do you call it a collision sport board. It's not just contact is collision and he is going to experience some collisions this year and he needs to be able to survive the minimizing news. If those big shots you're not taking many of those justin field shots at forty four in thank. You gonna play more. Ego played continued through the season. And that's the thing that tom no. He has a sense. You saw this. Just give the guy guy pressured like now. You know what i'm gonna be here. Let me go down down. We good to see another day. Yeah he's not gonna have guys landing on because that's when you get to the shoulder separation and the rotator cuff issues like no. I'll go down you touch me because then you fall on top of me they gonna throw flag and you don't want that so he's done a great job. Tampa had the great core players and now he's maximize that he's getting the best out of those players and he's right payton had andrew. Wile believe peyton was gonna play until if laid afford. He was not gonna retire. Heady had not had that neck injury jordan. The with him skip in that he plays so hard on both ends. You don't be nine time defensive. All nba defensive player at a lebanon. Twelve time all nba player has to play and gretzky gretzky within the even. He didn't get hit but they was running into. But tom you have to having played this game and knowing at thirty five i wanted to know. I want to know more meetings. Yep and i do everything possible care. I'll probably go into the bag. Gotta go to the bathroom man. I got to go to the bathroom. Spotting bit better part of my meeting the the bathroom where i was just sitting there thinking like man. How can i get out of the meeting tomorrow. What do i need to tell somebody. He loves it cowboy already thinking about skipping here it is a win and i'm already thinking about thursday friday what i can tell you. What can i tell. Bp now to get out of this meeting a hamburg loves to go home and watch watch tape. That's what he does for fun tape. But i missed a lot of programs. Watch the tape. Why enough what got me watching football games. Because there's no sal yep so when you watch the game there's no sound to it so you just get none okay. You supposed to watch everything with no sound. Here i am. I'm watching everything. Just like knokke do this. So i was like nah. I'm done so you're sure about this year. Next year i give you in concrete with that one now no concrete but i just think it happened but i'm assuming he doesn't take the big hit. He doesn't have the injury and that he plays. He's forty four now forty five. That was that was his goal. Peter king wrote about how his goals changed year after year after year. But i think this has got a bit of give gopher about at least it's we've come on this show we've been talking about forty five forty five and i didn't get to forty five and i knew he will not be was given other. He ain't getting the forty. Five watt nope yet. Peter king concludes that they even went out and got him giovanni bernard just a a little scat back. Who's been around. Who knows how to catch it out the backfield. They didn't really have that man last year. I thought my little man from vanderbilt keyshawn bomb was going to be that kind of got doghouse year. But he'll come around and he could be in the next three or four years. Go right he's talking about this guy. He got out of north texas that kid. Yeah and seattle. I don't think. I don't know how much in new england coach bill taken. The coaches allow players to coach. That's josh embrace. As i go somewhere in somebody let me have an opinion. They'll let me say. This is what i won't this high. Get it done so outlook. He's played unbelievable. He has weapons. They're very very talented team. But i will say this year next year forty five and he's like you know what who knows. He could possibly win a championship in the next two years. And put it the eight. And i don't think about it ever get eight and tom brady might have just been watching. You say that live in said thank you shannon sharpe for motivating me again so i can play three more you a.

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