21 Burst results for "Andrew Wakefield"
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Compassionate about it. Because before we make dollar one, we are having a being urinated on being defecated on being vomited on. All while going into debt. So we're doing these things for the experience because we love people and we want to keep you healthy and come back to the virus. Pardon me the. Vaccination issue. This actually started in the early two thousands, quack named Dr and who Wake Shield. Dr Andrew Wakefield was the first promoter of the theory of autism being linked to the vaccine, and if you look up Dr Andrew, Wakefield you'll find in his shame that he was actually attempting to disprove the effectiveness or prove the dangers of Mr so that he could actually license a single measles mumps rubella vaccine. For each one. So the motive behind the. Debasement of vaccines was driven. Well announced wild man. Great. Crazy. I'm sorry, I. Don't take a little time the last thing. I A just touch on this with people are not understanding about corona viruses, not just a cold or a flu is a cardio pulmonary disease that will infect your heart and blood vessels as well. Right, there are ramifications beyond just the initial, just past one hundred and fifty thousand dead people in this country. I don't need to say anyone. Like it's a serious disease and I'm glad if people don't have that heart if they get it and it's not that hard on them, which it seems like that's Michael. Puerto Juniors experienced. But one hundred and fifty thousand people died in this. Not In this country, it's just I, I. Don't know how you pretend that. That's not a big deal. No I. Agree I agree. wholeheartedly. All right. Coming up next. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Joe. Kelley statue or knows you. Get back into the dodgers astros at one more game between the dodgers and Astros..
UK's Johnson dismisses anti-vaxxers as 'nuts'
"Johnson, Johnson, dismissing dismissing campaigners campaigners seeking seeking to to oppose oppose vaccinations vaccinations Thie Thie anti anti vaxxers, describing them as nuts. Johnson asked a staff at a London medical center today what they thought of anti vaccine while adding quote. Is all these anti Baxter's. Now they're nuts. They're all nuts. Johnson was touring the East London Centre to promote a campaign for flu vaccinations. I had a winter, the anti Vax movement, fueled by a now discredited article in The medical journal Lancet by Andrew Wakefield, which alleged the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine were linked autism. That article later retracted Wakefield. I ended up losing his medical license. Take us with you.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Medical Mysteries
"Of infections over a relatively short time for example in two thousand fourteen. An Amish community in Ohio was dramatically affected by three hundred and fifty new cases of measles. The outbreak traced to a single man. Who brought the disease back from the Philippines while most of Ohio is safe the amish community who did not vaccinate faced an epidemic the Amish have avoided vaccinations for a variety of reasons. But mostly they see it as a risk to their health rather than a benefit additionally it compromises their religious beliefs by placing their faith in man over their faith in God. The Amish people who do not vaccinate rely on the herd immunity of the wider United States. If a disease is eradicated here they won't be exposed but this brings us to one of the most dangerous assumptions about vaccines and modern times. An idea that became more prevalent around the time Dr Andrew Wakefield began his vaccine studies in the nineteen nineties when the majority of the population is inoculated. A single individual cannot be infected. This creates a unique paradox when it comes to vaccines the more effective of accion his the less we think we need them and the more common vaccines become the less familiar. We become with the diseases that they cure outer body. Outta mind take polio. For example a disease that would be extremely strange and alarming to seeing someone today because we have inoculated it entirely. No one is concerned with catching disease that their parents hardly remember anti vaccination groups which have been around since seventeen ninety six when Edward Jenner released. His findings are perpetuated by this concept. Some people's fears run even deeper believing there's an imaginary elite seeking to control the entire nation through forced poisonous vaccination which was how jabs was launched in January of Nineteen Ninety four jabs or justice awareness and basic support is an anti vaccination group which argued that the measles mumps and rubella vaccine caused brain damage and other problems in children scientists universally regard this as a myth however jabs followers were loud and growing in number sensational coverage appeared in UK tabloids with headlines. Like my son. Went Bald after his Measles Jab. However the group didn't really take off until a scientist join them British physician Andrew Wakefield Dr Wakefield's credentials were impressive. They made people believe his research was legitimate and he claimed that he had made a profound discovery one that caused thousands of concerned parents to worship him. Much like Edward Jenner who was marked for his vaccination theories yet continued to advocate for Change Andrew Wakefield Clung to his findings once Wakefield made a claim he would go to great lengths to promote it. The trouble was Dr Wakefield claimed he had discovered irrefutable proof that there were actually dangerous repercussions to getting vaccinated and this had been kept a secret for decades coming up. Wakefield goes to great lengths to prove that vaccines cause incurable diseases and disorders. Hi It's Richard. If you haven't heard the new podcast series supernatural with Ashley Flowers yet. I highly recommend you head on over and subscribe today. It's a fantastic series. That's gotten off to a very successful start. So thank you to everyone who tuned in so far. We're very proud of it. 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Born in Nineteen fifty seven Andrew Wakefield was the son of a neurologist and general practitioner. A career in public health seemed inevitable rolling up in the nineteen seventies. Wakefield was the head boy at his private school in Britain. He was a natural born leader an influence her but he was also athletic an amateur rugby player which he juggled with receiving his doctorate by the young age of twenty five. Being the son of two doctors Wakefield was used to authority. He understood what it took to sustain the appearance of professionalism but on the other hand he was attracted to the myth of the underdog. Doctor who could discover new cures to terrible diseases wakefield strive to become that hero soon. Wakefield began working as a transplant surgery researcher studying tissue rejection problems in small intestine transplants. It wasn't long before he was promoted to senior lecturer at the Royal. Free Medical School in London but suspiciously Wakefield only published three research papers in the first decade of his career. Typically Post Docs published one or two papers a year and Wakefield's papers all revolved around. Crohn's disease an autoimmune disorder that can cause the body to incorrectly identify food as invasive material the immune system attacks the perceived threat and white blood cells coat. The walls of the small intestine leading to painful inflammation as of today the disease remains incurable but Wakefield argued. That Crohn's disease didn't actually come from the immune system's reaction to food is a threat instead. Wakefield was convinced it occurred because of the clogged blood vessels in the walls of the gut. Wakefield came to this conclusion after flipping through a textbook on the study of viruses. He read description that claimed a form of ulcers came from the measles but Wakefield saw the exact same condition. In those who had Crohn's disease he started to wonder was measles the causes of crowns if Crohn's was linked to measles this could have led to a revolutionary treatment for those with disease. However this link remains speculative and Wakefield's peers believed. He didn't have enough evidence to support his conclusions. Wakefield continued his studies and never found a reason to revise his theory in fact his colleagues critiques only reinforced. His certainty was stubborn and now he was hell bent on proving that this discovery could have global implications in nineteen ninety-three Wakefield submitted a paper to the Journal of Medical Virology. With information that he believed proved Crohn's disease was caused by the measles. Virus panel convened to analyze and confirm Wakefield's data but the panel found that. His data was so weak that his conclusions were basically meaningless so wakefield tried again Wakefield new. Hundreds of thousands of people suffered from Crohn's every year and he wanted to be the one to cure the disease. He published another paper examining the link between measles and inflammatory bowel disease but once again Wakefield could not provide concrete evidence to connect the two academic panels again debunked him teams in the United States and Japan even attempted to replicate his findings but they too discovered no link between measles and krones it was then that Wakefield teamed up with a PR COMPANY. Who was willing to help. Spread his theories despite the lack of hard facts after hiring the PR team. Wakefield made a third attempt at convincing the academic community with yet another paper. This paper claimed that when given together the measles mumps and rubella vaccines could cause measles to invade and damage the intestines this reaction could then move up to the brain causing irreconcilable harm to the neural systems. This caught the attention of a man named Richard Bar bar was a lawyer employed by the Anti Vaccine Group Jabs and he pushed Wakefield to examine a third link. This time between autism krones and the vaccine. It's not exactly clear why bar wanted to include autism in Wakefield's research but it is clear he was a lawyer who stood to profit if he could sue vaccine manufacturers on behalf of jabs most likely bar new autism was under studied he saw dollar signs and he pointed. Wakefield in their direction bar began wiring Wakefield money. One hundred fifty pounds an hour plus expenses to support jabs attack on the manufacturer's this broke ethical protocol regarding scientific experiments if a scientist was receiving money for producing supporting evidence during an experiment. Then that could certainly influenced the results. The idea of a prophet definitely motivated Wakefield.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on The Fifth Column
"Right. This is something that has some academic backings. These people aren't just not an the Andrew Wakefield, Emma. Mar our vaccines hard university. They're not I don't think he's faking it, right? So they're fairly interesting. But so much of it rests on these lazy presumptions that these people are white, which is why you have these headlines that are that are misidentifying. It's like. It's like, what should we say? Miss racing miss gender. The actual population of the school based on presumption. No, presuming that gay. It's like Sime presuming that it's white people, and that's not actually true. And we're presuming on another level that there's seven students, and I think that this is for most of the stuff that I've seen in some seen written about it that it seventy eight students because of sort of contemporaneous bigotry, or racism or bias, or whatever. Whereas I am very convinced that the fact that historical racism is part of a lot of this stuff. But there's everything is built in with these presumptions not built a lot of data. So we see people kind of stroking their chins and expounding why this is happening. What's actually going on about halfway through? When you ask these people what is actually evidence for this. What how do you know that this is full of sort of well-heeled white kids from the Upper West side who are taking all these very. Fancy test probes and doing very well. Because of it, I don't know if that's true, and they don't either, but there's so much presumption the air, but a lot of those kids five ages go to private schools, I'm gonna throw a wrench into this discussion. I just looked up. The entry example Stuyvesant it is fifty seven multiple choice questions on the English language assessment and.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Scriptnotes Podcast
"And so that's the thing where a superbug Kaz out and suddenly half the world is decimated. I mean World War Z's in some ways the same kind of thing where it's just it's everything's spirals beyond control someone eats the wrong bit a monkey meat in there goes. Yup. We're often running something goes a mock that doesn't feel like the most. I mean, you can keep making this babies as long as you want to that doesn't feel quite what we're talking about here. I think that that sense of an individual choice and individual story is probably more compelling talk to me about Ethan Lindbergh from Norwalk, Ohio. He's gonna kiss in this article who does sort of defy his parents it back knitted by himself. I mean, that's an interesting. He's an interesting character because it gives you a way in because you can both love your parents would love your family, and yet feel like you have to do this thing that is in opposition to their wishes, which is a classic kind of heroic, you know, framework. Well, we we typically will see this kind of story told in the context of religion, someone grows up in a cult or even in a call it extreme end of a mainstream religion, and they love their parents. But have to get out eventually realize it's not correct in that to get out. Although, you know, in some cases, it's it's clearly they don't love their parents their parents are abusive in they have to get out. And that's exactly what this reminded me of essentially, he says, listen, he that his mother loves him. But she was quote steeped in online conspiracies that made him and his siblings vulnerable vaccine. Preventable. Diseases like ongoing measles. Outbreaks. I grew up under my mother's beliefs. That vaccines are dangerous he'd show. Her scientific studies but said she instead turn to illegitimate sources that instill fear into the public essentially, his mother was a cultist. And by the way, that's what antibac- is. It is a flat out cult. It is a coal based in fear, and instead of worshipping a central person character with a worship is essential theory. A charismatic theory if you will. So there is a natural kind of narrative structure for a story where someone has to get out. And what you're doing is retelling it in the context of science medical science, which I think is you know, that's kind of an interesting angle on it. I don't if it were me, I think that'd be going good thought about this. I thought about I thought about doing a limited series on the rise of antibac- Saination, which has always been with us, by the way of China say, it's a rise. It's there's always been fear of vaccines. In the fear. Vaccines is directly connected. I think to the fear of people who are smarter than us. I mean, there's a direct line. There's it's the same thing when we look at fear of elitism fear of expertise fear of those smart people fear of the scientists. And then it all direct line to fear vaccines. It's always been there. But the current story that begins with the charlatan Andrew Wakefield and continues to this day to me is deserving of a there's there's a good exploration there. I've thought about it. Now, the counter narrative is also, you know, an easy thing to see. So the opposite movie, which is basically that vaccines were conspiracy that there was all the secretly they always knew they were doing harm that story..
Volunteers Fight Bad Science
"Now, we're gonna look at the staying power of bad science and a group of volunteers trying to fight it. Take the infamous nineteen ninety eight study by a British scientists that suggested a link between childhood vaccines and autism. It was retracted more than a decade later and its author. Andrew Wakefield had his medical license revoked, but the myth that vaccines cause autism persists today with serious public health consequences. It's this kind of bad science that James Heather's is constantly looking out for he's a post doctoral researcher in behavioral science at Northeastern University. And he's been influential in catching mistakes in publications and getting those papers retracted Heather says, there are two ways. He can tell a paper might have a problem one. Is you kind of spider senses research, which is very difficult to explain it's. A series of sticks. Slows kind of mental shortcuts about what might be wrong with something. When you read it and a lot of the time at tips, you often to the second thing that you do in the second thing that you do is try to mathematically determine if there's anything in the paper that you see that's inconsistent. If there's a test that doesn't work or numbers that kind exists store some something similar to that at least between the two of those. And of course, the fact that researches will tell you sometimes if they have papers in their areas that they don't trust they think of problems with sometimes they will tell someone like me. But isn't there already a system in place for this? I mean, if you get published in a peer review journal that is literally you putting your paper out into the scientific community, and then people get to comment. Well, that's absolutely what it is. And that's also not the end of the story peer review a lot of the time is. Very necessary and very good. The problem with it when it comes to research, that's really bad is that it's not really designed to detect problems. It's done with the assumption that everything that underlies the research is just fine. It's conducted under a kind of an umbrella of trust. There's not really a culture of strong criticism of bad science that happens through peer review, the other thing that happens. Of course, is that if you if I write a paper in the paper is deeply problematic, and it's rejected from journal and the journal writes back to the author and says, no, look, we don't believe any of this. This is wrong. This was done incorrectly. These mistakes that we can't explain all the authors will do is send it somewhere else. This is called journal shopping. Sometimes it happens, of course with papers that are perfectly fine and accurate as well. But eventually with a kind of a saying in science as you can get almost anything published somewhere James, the Wakefield study was eventually retracted but science is a discipline that builds on itself right with new research, citing old research, have you ever found anything like that something so that could have an effect on public health. There are things that are very similar to that. That's very ominous. Well, if that sounds ominous it probably should bad medical studies can tip lodger results one way or another. So imagine we have six studies and one of them is problematic for some reason. And when we add up the results of all the six studies, and we do a meta analysis that one individual bad study changes the outcome of the meta analysis that can influence how governments by drugs how frontline hospital care is conducted, and what is considered to be standard care as evidence based or not so evidence based so at its absolute worst. There's very definitely problems like that that exists right now, I'm afraid I can't really speculate any further than that right now. Right now.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"Okay. Sure. I mean, here's my blunt any should be people who are perpetuating a lie beyond a council regarding autism. And whether there's an effect hell, no. Andrew Wakefield turned out to be a complete fraud. We are taking advantage of people and thus their kids vulnerability, and I get Adam. Where is the line where society when government tells you what to do with your children because I do worry about how far goes, but when people put out false disproven information to justify this. They need to be called out. We had another story in the last day or two about what's going on in a part of Portland. Where this has just been a hot spot for parents who are going against this and in Clark county Apor Senate children were exempted from the upcoming school year vaccines for kindergarten. One percent of the children had a medical reason. That means just under seven percent. We're not even is for personal or religious reasons. You're not only putting your child at risk. You're putting the others at risk who are in the process of getting vaccinated. I get I'll repeat this. I get very very wary. On when government is telling us in certain direct ways what we have to do. But I'm not the evil boogeyman the government's out to hurt us. And and what's in the medicine? I have a son on the autism spectrum. I can't tell you the hundreds and hundreds of hours I've spent trying to understand why my son has the condition. He has. And facts are facts, it's not phony fake news. It's not cherry picking. It's a clown who lie to people who's been disproven. And then we take advantage of vulnerable. So for me Carter. Hell, no. They should not be on this council. Of course, not it. Just further example of just. Oh, so I just people just don't believe in science. And that to me is one of the great mysteries of the last twenty years. Just how scientific fact has become debatable in argue ball because it doesn't fit your either religious beliefs or it doesn't fit your political beliefs. Nailed it. Regarding the vaccine store. Does it surprise you? There's a segment of population, just refutes any scientific facts. Pure ignorance love the show someone's been listed me for since the wolves games. Thank you. Trevor appreciate the ACI words to all of us here at the show. What's worth more, facts or opinion facts are worth a hell of a lot more. And the facts are not in dispute about Andrew Wakefield. And how he lied to so many people and how others are doing this. Also. And I'm sorry for personal reasons. I don't think it should be allowed to put other kids in harm's way. Daria want to chime in on this one. Oh, yeah. We had a measles outbreak at my own kids K through eight last spring. It was horrible. So not only are all these people not vaccinating. But you know, we had teachers who were pregnant you can have serious birth defects. If you get measles, you can't vaccinate fetus, right? And so that's irresponsible. And then people with weakened immune systems. We have teachers in the school who were battling cancer. Who were you know? And I just feel like it's so it is so selfish. It is such a triumph over superstition and just rattling around in your own head like, yeah, we can all find boogeyman under the bed. If we want to it is part of being a member of society that you rain that in. Yes. And then you rely on. Individuals in a normal number of individuals who have relied in this. And then you look at the outliers and you see how they've been called out. Let me jump in here. Talk about Cain. Ask is Darah has brought us some food to which we're all enjoying when we have a number of topics to discuss with Darah. How'd you like to doubt your furnace the next few days? The but week. No, you don't want that. That's where I was at about here. Go and the furnace and the air conditioner. My house said, okay, we're done. It's been long enough. Well, I didn't have any doubt where I was going to go Kane s heating and air. And I now have the new furnace the new air conditioner from lenox, high efficiencies. Great this is the time of year, which I've been telling last couple of weeks where not as many people are thinking about the furnace or the air conditioner. So Kane I said overcome this. They're going to have.
Anti-vaccine community behind North Carolina chickenpox outbreak
"Which I can go through. It's really important. A lot of times. I just when somebody's says something or has an opinion. I'll say, I respect your opinion. No problem. Maybe it's political. Something like that. But if somebody's giving out what I considered to be information that is harmful to people's health. Then I'll push back some. And this little. Little thing. I'm gonna do here is a bit of the pushback. But if you disagree with all this if you think that all I'm saying is made up if you think it's a conspiracy. The vaccine don't work. I'd be interested to know your source if you don't have source. That's okay. You just have an opinion. Where do you hear it? Did you hear it from the president? Did you hear it from? On the internet. All right. We'll start with the autism thing. You hear from the president and others that vaccines cause autism. There's a widespread fear that vaccines increase the risk of autism. And this originated from a study, which has been proven to be bogus and fraudulent. Nineteen ninety seven study. Person named a surgeon named Andrew Wakefield. The article was published in British medical journal. Call the Lancet you've probably heard of it. Suggesting measles, mumps, rubella
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Conspiracy Theories
"The late two thousands, the general medical council or GMC which oversees medical licenses in the UK open investigation into Wakefield and Walker Smith study on the m m our vaccine and autism, the GMC's probe unearthed that not only did Dr Wakefield cherry pick and fabricate data. But he and professor Walker Smith were also aware that some of the children in their study were preparing to sue manufacturers of the m our vaccine at the end of the GMC's investigation in January two thousand ten they concluded that Dr Wakefield and professor Walker Smith had a serious conflict of interest and acted unethically when doing their research for the nineteen ninety eight Lancet article the GMC decided to strip Dr Wakefield and professor Walker Smith of their licenses later in two thousand ten the Lancet decided to retract their study. This was the first time they had ever retracted an article in the publications over one hundred and fifty year history. The one to blows of having the study redacted and the two men leading the study having their licenses revoked began to put the perception in people's minds that there really was no connection between vaccines and autism. But the story doesn't end there. Walker smith. With feeling that the GMC had punished him too harshly took his case to the high court in two thousand twelve he won a judgment by the high court reinstating, his license. The judge ruled that the GMC acted unlawfully in stripping away. Walker Smith's license? Many doctors and scientists still dispute Wakefield and Walker Smith study. But there are plenty of people who do believe the results to this day concerned. Parents still cite the nineteen ninety eight study to back up their arguments against vaccine safety since losing his license in two thousand ten Andrew Wakefield himself has tried to maintain an image in the media as an advocate for vaccine investigation by publicly defending his nineteen ninety eight study if you look at the fact that the number of vaccinations has gone down since two thousand ten Andrew Wakefield seems to be making a convincing enough argument to stop some parents from vaccinating their children, the choice for some parents, not vaccinate. Their children based on the nineteen ninety eight Wakefield study or for other reasons seems to have had some consequences risk going to Disneyland as low risk. It is safe to go to Disneyland. If you have your vaccinations, you're protected.
Measles is Making a Comeback
"Of the ones that that many anti vaccines. Swear needs to be you need to wait before you give your child measles, which I contend if measles strikes someone young enough. It can potentially be fatal. Is that not the case that is the case and. And especially the younger generation today. Does not remember a time before vaccinations nineteen sixty three when this vaccination this vaccine was developed I had the measles as a kid as as many of my age have. And they forget that there were an estimated one thousand deaths a year in this country attributed, just a measles alone. And it can be especially dangerous for young children. So what they're saying is get your vaccines commended against measles. Mumps rubella. That's how they are combined these days, and you know, what elite is a lot of this started with that bogus nineteen ninety eight study that linked the vaccine autism. It was deliberately falsified in order to try to promote the sale of a vaccine the doctor the former position Andrew Wakefield who authored it was disbarred, really taken out of the medical community in the UK. So you know, that was the start of it. Well, and then that's led to other things. Well, maybe. Maybe it's okay. So it doesn't it doesn't cause of autism. But maybe causes the outbreak of ADHD or there's there's all kinds of preservatives in vaccines that are bad for you. Well, okay, unless you're allergic to them everything is safe, and I'm not going to get into that. What I am going to get into though, is is the spread attributable singularly to the fact that people are not vaccinating or waiting too long to vaccinate or is it because we're starting to see such an open immigration policy in Europe and other countries. Yeah. Yeah. That has been one of the concerns and one of the reasons now in Europe, they have done a study on this. And they say, no that is not the reason that it is because of non-vaccination as we look at this country, and we begin to look at Central America and Mexico because hate that has been the recent point to focus immigration in those countries. Childhood vaccinations are required and. Remember that anybody coming into this country must have a vaccination record or get vaccines before coming into the country. And that again is the one of those things that I did not know that about Central America. Because I assume like a lot of countries, they don't require it. And then there's those in our country who are starting to say, we should not require it. But I whatever your religious beliefs, I strongly encourage vaccinations, and here we
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on The Chad Prather Show
"We need stitches. We'll MP's of around six and seven. So you just didn't have? No, it sue wouldn't seem didn't use the same doctor and did so like I can remember going to Dr Bill when I was two years old. I can remember all this stuff and he gave me my immunizations. Right? And I can remember like arm like you just couldn't use it for like three days. I don't remember, but it just I don't remember what one it was or anything like that. But wow, your big your wiggling over there. You're all jumping over there because I can tell we're in, we're in your field issue. I know you're passionate about this topic that I just wandered into. Two of immunizations? Yes. And that's I can't believe how passionate people get about things these days like they get fighting mad over certain issues. Right. Like I got a guy who sent me a message yesterday who was like, I'm ready to have a debate with you in talk to you about how the world is flat. I can't even with any of these. People just can't. Okay. Not who I'd wanna debate. I wanna talk about the world be of flat and give me a break, the world's not flat. Well, we've seen it from space. You know how much more do. You know, doughnut shaped and it's not flat, come on, don't it sound good anyway. Immunizations? Yes. There's been this push in the last because I've seen I can always tell when Jade is on Facebook and she's mad about something she's tap, tap, tap, tap in on her phone, she's responding to something Facebook. I'm like, are you talking to people about immunizations? And I'm sure there's people out there who are listening who maybe you don't believe in immunizing your child. Right? Because it's become a trend and people say, oh, well causes autism. And these things and autism, we work very closely with the local autism charity. We're very good friends with the folks who run that organization. And so that's something that's, you know, children with autism, something very near and dear to us. So we're not. We're not throwing that out and tongue-in-cheek or even making light of it because it's very serious. They'll get a lot of great friends who either are on the spectrum or have children who are so, but, but to blame immunizations on that, you believe bottomline children should be immunized one hundred percent, one hundred percent because whenever you don't only put your child at risk, but you put those who cannot be immunized at risk. And that's, that's really, that's really, I feel like that's selfish. I understand being scared, but there's no excuse for not being educated. Well, you know you have you have people who say, there's there's no proof that that vaccines don't cause autism. There is Perth. Yeah. I mean, I think the kademi of pediatrics released like a more than forty studies that showed absolutely no link whatsoever between vaccines and autism. Yes, I was talking to pediatrician today. She told me they did a study over in the UK where a lot of the people stopped getting the vaccine because they thought that there was a link between that and autism. And what happened was there was an increase in measles, but there was no decrease in autism, right? So that you know that I'm not sure what else people need on. Go on one step further on that because when they did that, they did the study that was published in nineteen ninety eight. This said they found a link between vaccines and autism, but the study was retracted because the physician and the researcher Dr Andrew Wakefield who did that was shown to falsified the data and was actually stripped of his medical license. And he should have been because he he's responsible for deaths opinion for this serious. It is serious very. Serious didn't know, but you're serious about it. I am serious. I don't want to be mean and ugly. And you know, I was a school nurse for six years. I think I had three students that did not get him United, and they had their letters from the state was for religious reasons. But another one was because they were immuno-compromised so they were not allowed to get certain vaccines that would be your live vaccines. So they were at real high risk for coming down with something like chicken pox. So did you ever have chicken pox?.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Who? Weekly
"Ready today we figured it out everyone's ready to die including him. Okay. Yikes. What's next? Who's now? I don't want to talk about Tanaka. I do wanna talk about Andrew Wakefield. Who's that? The guy l. mcpherson's dating. Oh, no, it's really funny. So I guess I recognize his name and I recognized him as like an antibac- sir guy, but it wasn't until my coworker. Anna Merlin was like, no, this is this is literally the. You can trace the vaccines cause autism lie back to a single person, which I did not realize it's all his from somewhere, but I thought it was like a group or series of people like this is one of the things that has a patient zero and that patients was Andrew Wakefield. He apparently in nineteen Ninety-six or like the late nineties. He. Released this report that was very, it hit hard. Everyone's talking about it and he said, the measles mumps rubella vaccine was probably a factor in causing autism and everyone's like, oh my God. And then like eight years later, this writer for the times of London did all this reporting and found out that he was like in cahoots with these lawyers. And these other researchers to that, like he had a financial interest, improving the connection like there was all this money. So now he's like working in startups and he's making all this money somehow. And he still like conning his way into relationships with women. So I guess he's sort of like a playboy and away. So it's not surprising that he's stating on the pherson, but now everyone's mad at McPherson. It's your dating. The guy who is telling people that back scenes cause autism, he still the rolling around doing promotion for himself and this paper though, like yet, he says that he may not love. Remember that drama with Robert deniro who has autism. And it was like it. It basically was like included in that. It wasn't included because people are pro tea, of course, directed that documentary. He'll he'll never stop. Snow. People are mad at l. McPherson, but my favorite thing about the story. There's the guy who wrote the original piece in two thousand four that revealed disguise being a con artist. Brian deer wrote the story also in the times of London, just talking about their relationship and it's this really, it's this really funny thing in it says, when I give lectures on the research cheat Andrew Wakefield, I sometimes start with the proper presentation of pictures, showing him accompanied by women in the first light has armed drapes around enduring country singer. The next show him at the center of four grinning ladies. After that, there are nine women. Beaming at a book launch was wild is like, this is how he gets girls. If that's how we break. That's those guys breaking it down. It's like there so many ways to get girls and like this guy's like I'm gonna make up a fake link between autism and vaccine and it's working for him. He said, vaccines cause autism, and he's now he's just dating a ton of women. He's like, I'm so horny. But like girls don't like me how like me ov- axioms call. Now everyone's hit the funny at all, but it's like it's like that is like so beyond what you needed to do to get laid like you did not need to cause mass panic and like create a to get laid. That's not necessary. We probably have time for one more thing. What do you wanna talk about? Lindsay, Lohan reality show. Don't care. Paul Klein who's Paul Klein Lanny Lanny. Do you know what Lanny stands for? I didn't realize the last night we wanted to four letter word because of design and aesthetic purposes. But as you can imagine, all the four little words the entire world or taken. We moved to acronyms and for a while we thought Hello, welcome to the internet in two thousand eight. Well, we thought we could be TY l..
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Inquiring Minds
"Well, she apparently has a new boyfriend and that boyfriend is Andrew Wakefield. Our old friend Andrew Wakefield. Great. Wait for the antitax Andrew field, the Andrew Wakefield. So for listeners who may not remember twenty years ago, Andrew Wakefield was the UK physician who at the time created a stir by linking 'em are to autism, which was totally debunked. He was actually lost his medical license as a result of this, but as on gone on on a crusade saying that, yes, there is a link between vaccines autism where there is none. I thought he had fallen into irrelevance irrelevancy at this point. I mean, it's been twenty years. The pushback from the media has been extreme, and even though there's been pockets of, you know, like a documentary came out about him. I haven't heard much about Andrew Wakefield in recent years, and it made me wonder, what is the state of anti vaccination in this country? And recently. He came out imposs- from Jacqueline olive from the Baylor College medicine who looked at what's called n m es non medical exemption rates in eighteen states that allow it in those eighteen states. Twelve of them have seen those exemption rates rise and this is the kind of exemption on philosophical or religious grounds that you have to file for your child. Not to get this vaccination before they enroll in kindergarten and seeing that it was on the rise was I opening because I thought we had actually crested a hill here and there is to surprising results. One that there's a great deal of growth in anti vaccine. Invacc- exemptions amongst rural counties. There is a county in Idaho where it's almost thirty percent of the population doesn't have vaccinations for a mar, but also that we have pockets of this growing in. In big urban centers. And that's a probably a bigger concern because that's where something like measles can really outbreak and cause a whole cascade effect where thousands of cases can emerge. Yeah, that's that's amazing. Even the thirty percent number, it's shocking because you know what? We, if it's just a, it's like a few percentage points then maybe you could still say that the, you know, the vast majority of kids are vaccinated, so you can rely on some herd immunity, but not if thirty percent of the kids are not vaccinated, and this isn't just a US problem. There is twenty thousand cases of the measles last year in Europe alone, so much so that the Royal College of nursing in the UK has warned people going to music festivals this summer to get booster shots for 'em mar, because those places where lots of people are in a tight location is exactly the kind of place where measles can spread very easily. So there's a lot of work to be done. What. Is hopeful to me about this study is that it pinpoints on the county level where more exemptions are happening. So it gives us at least a place where we can focus efforts or policy to make these changes here in California. There was a repeal just put in place around exemptions for vaccines that makes it base much, much harder to get an exemption for vaccines, and that has proven very effective at increasing the overall vaccination rate in the state. Well, that's good news for California, but what are we going to do about Idaho? Well, I guess I'm just not going there on vacation because I don't want to get the measles. Well, that sounds that sounds wise, but you know, if you're gonna if you're not gonna go to Idaho, maybe you could go to Portland instead. And before you go to Portland, of course, you have to get up on the culture and so maybe a watch the show Portland. I remember that show of course, but a bird on it. Yeah. So do you remember the episode in which the couple of Goto a..
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"Protect your job we've seen these. Cases where it's no vaccinations no medicine no information and I hope in those cases it's easy to judge it. Gets, a little bit tougher I I've been conflicted before, like the, doctor said. About whether doctors offices should fire the parents for their. Decision because what are you then. Doing I I have a tough time of that w if I'm gonna put other kids, in harm's way when they're in the. Process of getting fully vaccinated while someone is going to be defying in his not listen to me I. Think it's a very dangerous situation, I think that's the biggest problem that we're seeing is that one person's decision is then affecting so many so what Choose to not. Vaccinate your children and then keep them in a bubble and, I'm not saying that there have not been stories of kids who have been who have been their parents have chosen to not vaccinate them and they've lived completely normal. Lives the unfortunate side of it as we know what. Happens when a child who not immunized gets around other children and how quickly those things. Spread and you hear the stories at. Children with debilitated immune systems children who have cancers who can't go out, to school or candle out in public because their immune system has been. Degraded, and these children than put them at risk and it's just it's almost like a ticking time bomb and there are people out there who pray and individuals who don't have as much information you are cruel when you, do this if you wanna present the. Side and have other people present the counter but to individuals who don't have access to as much information. And you Put this out as if it is a given that. Is borderline criminal if not criminal let me get to a couple more a couple, more texts here one size does not fit all parents choice, without a question somebody talking about. The flu shot never gets the flu shot where people get sick there are people do that I get the flu shot I feel better getting. The flu shot people talking about the rabbit holes that are, out there not Sania musicians or one percent for sure the cause autism but you can't say it's one percent not the cause I'm saying for my child it was. Not I'm saying the over over overwhelming amount of evidence. Says it is not Andrew Wakefield has been debunked he is a frog he is a. Scam artist I go with top credible. People find me a top credible person who buys this in it's backed, by science and I'm willing to look at it thirty four past one It all starts with..
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Mudd has disgraced himself and his former agency which you know with John Brennan out there John Brennan is dragging the CIA through the mud, and Philip Philip Mudd and and I'm I'm embarrassed for. The c I spent ten years Covering the CIA for CNN it's not something you covered with great ease. And simplicity but to the extent that you actually cover the, CIA they're not on good times here, I'll tell you the FBI the department of Justice the CIA and Clapper the DNA and former NSA, they've disgraced themselves in so many ways Brennan, is the biggest race of the mall and that's why NBC, hired him Mudd is competing, for disgraced former c. i., employee of the year And that's. Why CNN hired him they're all virulent. Anti Trump voices there is no balance, in the news, media there is nobody in the room to check them every now and then Rick Santorum. Goes on CNN and he just sits there rolling, his eyes and curling his lip and shaking his. Head at the idiotic lines of questioning. That they haven't he's I can't even believe, I put up with this stuff. Rick Santorum who's a solid man and a good man Mike barnicle Is that where we're going to Mike barnicle he's with. The DNC TV he's plagiarism convicted plagiarize fired for being a plagiar- so naturally NBC hired him because it's like the land of misfit toys for disgraced fake journalists of which Mike. Barnicle is one and he's got a single digit IQ his, parents had single digit IQ's not a bright guy not. His fault Yeah his parents they shouldn't have procreate it in. The first. Place Mike barnicle president's trip through, Europe I mean dismantling disrupting alliances that have been.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"Children and costing tens of millions of dollars have looked at children who did or didn't get the vaccine to see whether the rate of autism was greater in the vaccinated group it wasn't again and again and again so his hypothesis was wrong it's been refuted and and as we learned later that his paper which really wasn't a study at all it was just a case series which who had gotten the vaccine that then were diagnosed with this problem wasn't fact fraudulent that he'd misrepresented clinical data misrepresented biological data and for that reason his paper was withdrawn i mean draining mccarthy represents something else which she represents is the fact that vaccines or victim of their own success i mean she'll say as we said so eloquently i'll take the fricken measles or influenza every time which tells you she doesn't remember measles i mean measles could kill you before there was a measles vaccine in this country in nineteen sixty three every year there would be several million children who get measles in the us forty eight thousand would be hospitalized in between five hundred thousand with die that was measles measles is a bad disease but she's forgotten it and she makes it sound like the choices to get a vaccine or to get onto them that's not true obviously vaccines don't cause what's but here's the problem i think the problem is we don't really know the cause or causes of autism i i think you could make the analogy to diabetes in the eighteen hundreds type one diabetes we didn't know what caused diabetes and so there are all these crazy ideas for how one could cure it all these crazy ideas for what caused it and then in nineteen twenty one banting and best discovered insulin and all that nonsense what a away and maybe for diseases like autism where we don't have a clear cause or cure we're going to have to wait for that that to happen before all of this settles now so beyond a jenny mccarthy and andrew wakefield your book goes well beyond that issue you write that simple solutions even when they're wrong are enormously compelling talk about that a little bit when it comes to celebrity experts i mean from gwyneth paltrow to the medical guru dr oz i mean what do you make of of these simple solutions that that many people latch onto.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on Important, Not Important
"Ios of some of the folks who are really beating the drum for this and their like biblical literacy oil realistic excuse me one of them is a huge anti semite to the more you dig into these folks checking all the boxes yeah it's really really fascinating this'll pass it's i'm not saying we just have to sit back and let it go but i'm saying that in in ten fifteen years we'll have moved on to some other dumb thing look at look at vaccines this was sort of a background noise people who thought vaccines were bad and then andrew wakefield in in england published this terrible article in a journal that was retracted he was he was drummed off the register in the uk there yeah yeah i mean when you find out about this guy to he's huge conflict of interest he was developing his own alternative vaccine the study he did was unethical it just goes on and on and on but that was a huge spike and now we're dealing with this so people don't think the moon landings are real or the earth is flat that's that's bad and i'll get back to that second but it's it's things that have a direct impact like anti vaxxers babies are dying because of whooping cough oh we got into i brought a three i have three young children who are very close in age i brought a newborn baby home and the next week my one and a half year old daughter got whooping cough.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on All In The Mind
"Really true so they sort of let the group make decisions for them about what's true what's risky what's not risky and help them make all of those kinds of decisions so that's really one of the means social factors that comes into some of these irrational beliefs and decisions that i believe that there is a causal association between the measles mumps rubella vaccine and autism in many children for several reasons firstly based upon the clinical history given by the parents these parents who not anti vaccine they took their children to be vaccinated on time and then they reported a severe side effects another social phenomenon that sarah gorman has observed he's the charismatic leaders often have an influential role in driving a groups antiscience beliefs a lot of the believes that we talked drought in a block and the mean ones really wear the belief that a gun in the whole mix you safer and the belief that vaccines cause autism but there are a few others as well a lot of those beliefs not only had groups that were formed around them but they have charismatic leaders and so the anti vaccine movement andrew wakefield himself has become a charismatic leader of that movement and charismatic leaders are very very good at reinforcing the group identity they create a very strong sense of us verses them and not really keeps people entrenched in the group it makes the group a very important part of their identity and so it's very hard for them to then step away from the group and evaluate things independently especially when they're under the influence of one of these kinds of charismatic leaders.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on KMET 1490-AM
"It in a different on nagpal said his feet and it was then publicized here and it was on cnn and oxen pretty much every channel you could turn to you in they they were talking about him and not as calling in my ethical that actually calling it a fraud which is a big step from what they were saying court at the losses license for ethical reasons not medical reasons and and i don't believe fraud sell now it was it was turning to fry and so i reached out to him again and on at that point uh you know i think he just was like adding come on it a happy because i think he didn't really get up a fair shake cute talk in what his point of view less are from his side on an nature sell he did allow me to do it by email i wasn't able to promise him it would be a piece that i'll come out in his favour or or against him sell m i was relatively focused on the objective or and this is the thing that uh doc filmmakers especially those that do documentaries have in it a difficult time duly in which is dean objective and in this time that you are objective now that it it's done what is your personal now that's where the out what is your personal feeling on on everything that's come out about vaccines and being linked to autism oh well i mean i i don't really have an answer to that um because you know my focus ended up becoming a character study at apiece on really kind of focused on inside of his lay and what it's like to be married to hit what it's like to have him as your father where he's on the news being how the worst personal in the world what is like for andrew wakefield with his cell hated by selling people the yet sell a door by by others in a my my thumb is even though he is tied at axings obviously this is an issue but my piece is really kind of an inside look at this world that we are told about but can't see sl and am so great of head uh and all the people around him who support him who allowed the access to kinda show what's going on there.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on You Are Not So Smart
"Then he jerk reaction is always does what you're avoiding so often a mess and that's hard to juggle the idea that caution would be bad as long as those have an army so for example you can are you take a plasticizer out of a toy that's not going to cause harm in and it probably doesn't end some so you can take this final a out of water bottles i think that's not going to harm caused harm but you know it's when you take ddt out of the united states and then ultimately out of the world get a lot of harm so i think under that's what i'm saying just be be cautious about being goings makes there's not another side and your last piece of ice in the book is uh pay attention to the man behind the curtain rightback that comes from the wizard of oz that would be the little man behind the curtain um yes it again i dared there it's i guess it's the it's the it's the uh the wizard of oz manama you could apply its met meddah's ironically armour with andrew wakefield or anybody who stands up offers for a particular point of view that it should never be about the person about the the on the ability of that person to be charismatic and persuasive it's always about the data you should always look behind the little man behind the curtain make sure there's data there after writing this book what what inside did you game from all of this that what is your big take away from exploring the unintended consequences i think that you um you see something in the beginning i think i wrote this down um uh yes scientific innovation does not always mean progress if you could just unpack that is a way of sort of signing a so i think it's the dumb that scientists give it as much commutes brought in this brought us out of the age of darkness into the agent whiteman we live thirty years longer now that we did a hundred years ago because of science all true and i think.
"andrew wakefield" Discussed on The Art of Charm
"Thanks for listening and supporting the art of charm let's get back to jordan in kenya levitin one thing that seems to be in the media lately that drives me bananas is this anti vacs crowd of not vaccinating your kids and of course now we end up with problems where healthy kids with parents who aren't knuckleheads are dying or getting measles because they have to go to school with somebody who's parents decided to read something on info wars and now everybody is getting diseases that were radic aided when they got rid of pirates well i guess we still have pirates so it's fitting that we still have measles never mind what's going on with these folks this is a hornet's nest you and i both live near ground zero for the anti vaxxers which is marin county california and i've been travelling around the country and i've run into these pockets of anti vaxxers and the interesting thing is they tend to be better educated than the average person they tend to be relatively affluent and they've somehow got it in their heads that vaccines cause autism the measles mumps rubella vaccine in particular mmr it began with an article in a medical journal by andrew wakefield not an expert on autism but a physician in england who presented evidence that vaccines caused autism well it turned out he admitted to fabricating data his paper was retracted and he's been discredited and lost his medical license but the story about this fake.