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 Andrew Luck Retires, Rams' Andrew Whitworth And Mount Rushmore Of Guests We Want On The Show

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Andrew Luck Retires, Rams' Andrew Whitworth And Mount Rushmore Of Guests We Want On The Show

"On today's part in my take andrew luck has retired we also have hall of famer future hall of famer andrew whitworth from the los angeles rams mount mount rushmore of guests. We would love to have on this. Show and andrew lock has retired. That's the big news so we'll talk all about that before. We we do that. Pardon my take is brought to you by the cash app. You already know the cash apso. Here's a recipe for pasta putin esca a flavorful neopolitan dish in in a large skillet mashed one tin of anchovies and their oil with four crushed garlic cloves out a quarter cup of olive oil and simmer m._r. over medium heat until fragrant stir in a drain twenty eight ounce can of whole peeled tomatoes a can of chop black olives and a jar dr of capers and break up tomatoes with a wooden spoon each read this like jetta diller just add like a little italian note at the end of every food. Don't tell me how to do my address. 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We're prisoners of the moment because we all are online all all the time yeah and so we can react to everything which makes sports a lot more fun to watch and to follow but when andrew luck we're talking about fully franks still being a fun quarterback still thinks he's still stinks but when andrew luck retired the discourse shifted almost immediately from like oh holy shit and lecturing to is this the craziest sports story story to ever break yes. It was like a little bit shocking. I was not ready for emotionally and i had maybe drafted andrew luck three five fantasy leagues it is it's pretty fucking shocking that he just decided to quit at that time and the way that schefter reported it that whole thing the story behind the story. I think there's still a lot that we have to learn about the well. Someone leaked it and then schefter had the ball so schefter dropped the bomb and then <hes> from every everything that's been written about andrew lock. His plan was to tell us teammates. After the game the preseason game against bears do a press conference on sunday <hes> talking to the press instead schefter dropped it in the middle of the third quarter of the game and andrew lock then left the field to the after the game to booze which will get to that and schefter had the balls to tweet out. Andrew luck said the expected to tell his teammates that he was retiring sunday before his timeline got moved up now. Schefter did his job but dude. You are the reason why the timeline got moved up. You announced it and basically blew up andrew entire plan of telling his teammates i right and then telling the media so it was shocking. He was crazy. The reactions <hes> like we said the booze. I think everyone was like you know that was that was probably not right and i bet you everyone who booed like when you take them out of at the moment like yeah. You know what i was feeling feeling shitty. Our franchise quarterback just retired at age twenty nine <hes>. I'd probably take on that. I'd probably like that back so i don't know which direction you want to go with it. I i laughed so much about the internet like the free points that were given out for everyone to fight the straw man being like andrew look as the right to choose whatever he wants to choose all you fans bitching and moaning. Where were the fans bitching and moaning. A lot of people thought it was weird ones at the stadium. I think that was like aww picking out the booze walking off the field and then you had you can go to god you can go to your three kings of sports takes and check those doug gottlieb aleve mad dog russo said something and then i went straight to danny canal fuck danny canal. He didn't fuck forgetting soft. Can't he's living out on us. That's a problem. I think he's a front runner for the year next year. Smoking weed nobody will it was basically an dockage as well and gottlieb got completely roasted and then tried to claim sarcasm chasm which it wasn't in a he. He got ratio to the moon his exact tweet by the way doug gottlieb. A guy doesn't know how to use twitter when he says retiring tiring co because rehabbing is quote unquote too hard as most millennial thing ever hashtag andrew luck ensure that everyone knew that he was talking about andrew luck in the the moment anyone searching for andrew lock on twitter in that moment can get their take straight from doug but but my bigger point is that i really don't i think there were a lot of people people who are just getting free internet points by claiming andrew. Luck has the right to do whatever he wants which he does. I actually think that this like when you hear him talk about the cycle of rehab job and how he hasn't been right for a very long time and ryan grigson should basically go to he should be charged with war. What did you see them in yeah yeah. I'm not a cuba andrew. Lock waterboard were years in the n._f._l. He got hit more than any other quarterback. They didn't have an offensive line protecting a franchise quarterback so i i get looks coming from. I just don't understand why it has to be all or nothing. I think colts fans. I'm a speak up for colts fans second they have. I think it's totally fair. Colts fans and be like you know what this fucking sucks yeah so i think the big problem that the colts fans are would be entitled to have is the fact that this is two out of the last three seasons that jim irsay has basically told them. We've got andrew luck to this year ryen. They don't that brings up a whole. Nother can worms which is what i talk big yet so well well. That's not we tweeted out but that's what he's tried to cover it up with but <hes> yeah i think that say in the fact that he's paying andrew luck twenty five million dollars dollars like that's hush money right there. I don't know what andrew lucked knows. He knows a lot of shit about a lotta shit well and he knows a lot of stuff about jimmer. Say there's reason commercial was rolling around in his his. Was it his mercedes-benz with thirty thousand dollars in cash in a bag. That was hush money for for jim sorgi. I think i think think andrew luck. I think jim irsay is hoping the andrew lock. After a year of being you know getting away from the game. Maybe getting healthy is going to say hey okay. I really miss football and i wanna come back so that was to me a play by the colts and you have to take that risk like hey. If andrew luck decides he wants to play again. We want him. I'm to be like i'm playing for the colts no matter what even always under contract and would have been a whole thing's going the but he would have he he could have been like. I don't wanna play for the colts but i wanna come back. This now makes if he ever does wanna come back. It's going to be for the colts but the gym i say is i mean he's just a such a weird character in this whole thing because i'm pretty sure he's the one one who leaked it to adam schefter so he's always kind of trip in a little bit on some weird acid that he's done in the past so when he found out that andrew luck was gonna retire tire he was probably like man. I can't be dishonest to my friend adam. I need to give them a call right and he like hit some up. Maybe but i don't know i don't know how how adam schefter gets. Maybe maybe the patriots have the colts facilities bugged from what that's okay now. It's all coming together. Mcdaniels goes to indianapolis interviews their head coach sticks of bug under the table. Now he's got all the info coming out of indy. They call schefter schefter reports before ready. Oh okay so they got him that way. Yes the bug there and they'll never find the bug would never find people in the organization to know until yesterday either well so it's the time doesn't really make sense because they said that he's been mowing this for a few weeks now and it sounds like he kind of had his decision made a couple of weeks ago i again. I actually think andrew lucked like the way he describes. There's been rumors that he has arthritis in his shoulder and if he kept on playing he wouldn't be able to like basically use his shoulder and he's a smart guy made a lot of money. Obviously she has a lotta hobbies outside of football and so it makes sense for him. I just i'm more speaking from a fan perspective. Everyone jumps in saying andrew. Luckily you andrew lucked doesn't know anything and that's true but i still think cults fans can be like you know what this fucking sucks but they've got swag kelly ready to step up at a moment's notice the other the other thing that i was thinking about was you know when we always laugh about the combine interviews and josh rosen like is this player too smart. Yes absolutely is a real quick. Everyone mocks it including ourselves but everyone you know the the blue checkmark regret gabe usually moxie like oh. You can't have interest out of football will this is actually a perfect case where andrew luck is a very smart guy. He has a ton of interest outside the football. I think he loved football. I think the injuries made him fall out of love with football because he's like you know what there's more to life than this and it proves yet again in the n._f._l. N._f._l. wants in the guys they draft. They want robots. They won't guys who were going to do anything for the team no matter what they don't want guys who have a mind of their own and so that's why you hear the reports reports before draft being like this guy's too smart and that's actually a thing right. I'll put it this way. Ben rothlisberger is never in danger of thinking about anything besides how he's is gonna extend this play right like he's he's like a dog that gets fixated on a bone and that bonus football body is falling apart and the reason he would retire is is because he hates whose name todd haley todd haley right. That's why you're tired to spite his body yeah if if ben rothlisberger burgers nipples fell off before a game just be like oh i gotta go out there and sling it right and see if i can get this win out seventy two fourteen like yeah you're right. There is an element of like yes yes andrew luck. He is not too smart to play football but in a way it's like you can't trick them into playing football any longer than he asked right and i love love. I love from like a per. Take it outside of football. You love someone who has the wherewithal to be like. Hey you know what football's not everything. Sports aren't any everything. I want my health more than anything else. That's a great move for andrew lucked because there's a lot of guys who you see hang on hang around for way too long and their bodies deteriorate but next time that happens in the combine in the draft process and everyone mocks the guy who's too smart. This is why teams look at this way and it's it might not you might not agree with it but they're saying we're going to make an investment. We don't want someone who is going to think for themselves and be like hey. My health is more important than football as crazy as that sounds because that's actually the way you should think <hes> but not the way in the n._f._l. Teams want their players. Thanks and and it also it's total vindication for dan snyder for not not drafting. Andrew lucked up just to take r._g. Three and the only two words that are sweeter in the english language than mock draft you what they are but redraft after redraft so now we're going to have to go back and redraft. The twenty twelve angeles right after their six year bump so keep that in mind if their quarterback trent richardson richardson. He's still hoping for famer. He'll be back for andrew lock. He was af m._v._p. Yeah he b._p. Brandon weeden yup still slaying in it luke keithly keithly keith as like the other end of the spectrum when it comes to guys being like hey maybe my health should be more important than for luque's who he put his body on the line every single week. He's had a million concussions and that's not a knock on andrew luck. Some guys will just go through hell and their life. We'll be miserable to play on sundays. Andrew luck was like hey. I just got married. I have a life. I don't wanna do this. Well de also say that. He almost got divorced. He said like it ah thanks go hang. This isn't a theory per se but he said that the year off that he had rehabbing helped save his marriage and otherwise without that year he probably won't won't be married <hes> so the question to believe like maybe that marriage being reconciled was part of the reason that he like andrew care more about his wife and football boom to yeah. You're oh you're in love cool. It's just so the whole the whole thing is shocking really is and it's jesus never got married help. It's turned out fine. He he lasted thirty three. Let me throw another tapped out other harebrained theory 'cause we're doing the sex ruined andrew luck. Do you put into the fact that he was rapidly rapidly balding and he was like. I don't want to be in the spotlight when i get bald. He saw blake bortles has ever been concerned about his appearance yeah all right. I'm just saying i was i i noticed it even more more pronounced than usual he was overcompensating with neck beard san thoughts and prayers seriously thoughts and prayers to the shitty general andrew luck twitter account and what i realized over the weekend is there's an entire ecosystem of civil war. General quarterback twitter accounts out there. There's a there's a corporal pat mahomes. They're like that really everyone. Has that the stolen. They stole the entire fucking bit too. That's so when the lights were the brightest on the civil war andrew lucked where he laid a fucking egg he first of all it took him like fourteen hours to come up with a hundred and ninety character tweet fuck. You like i could have written that tweet in like five minutes and you know his phone's blowing up to. He's like oh my god. He's sweating his ass off. I got this is my this is my opus i need. I need to really respond and then he was just like all martha ortho retiring going back to the fourth sox. Yeah fuck you. He should have been killed in action. It does suck though from n._f._l. Fan perspective too because andrew luck is fun mm to watch and he's fun to do as goofy thing where he says good hit to everyone. Do you think he regrets that well. The guys that are actually talked up his injury made him injured over the years of made them basically he took the love of football out of his body and he was like good job big boy. He's he called up. Schefter was looks great scoop hat. I say good good good scoop. Big boy was all awesome screwed. I mean i'm gonna miss him. I'm gonna miss him. I am so what do you think is the next step is because i think maybe he's an architect teacher now. He's gonna become like a big time arthritis. It's gonna ride his bike to school. Looks like build a huge building that we know about well. I think he loved architecture in africa but he's he's not like an architect yeah but i think he might go their story in sports illustrated in l. share. It won't be around. There'll be a story whatever magazine bleacher report hologram program be bleacher report slide show that says andrew luck look at andrew luck. He's back at stanford getting his architecture. I think he's gonna move to move to europe going to have a bunch of sex and have some kids yup of guys all right so he's going to fly by the way here's the other thing on on andrew looks to do now. These retired is fuck bill and then make building in africa slash europe okay. How pissed do you think jim harbaugh is very mad. Oh i thought so mad right now now he he was disgusted when he saw this yeah he probably wasn't jerry. Jones thinks he's gonna do you gonna get andrew. Lock bidding war with jerry jones sir. Thanks andrew locks can be president. I mean this whole thing. It's crazy. I i really do feel bad for cults fans. I think they get a bad obviously the booing bad but they get a bad rap because everyone what hank everyone's just like forgiving colts fans automatically know because i know here's awesome but also philadelphia it was it'd be here's my perspective is new york. Okay alright but indianapolis like oh well. Those colts fans. Don't mean at skulls. Fans are great. No i think that if it's similar it's not the same because it's it's your own guy and bring your own guys weird but similar to win. Kevin kevin durant went down in toronto and everyone like jumped on toronto fans. I said the same thing. Fans are fence. Fans are crazy. Fans are very passionate and in the moment these is is like the people who booed andrew luck are not thinking wow he probably has gone through hell to get back and his injuries have taken the like the love of football away away and he's worried if he can even lift his arm in three years. They're thinking we were. We were dark or super bowl contenders. Now are not fuck. This and i'm paying for shady preseason preseason game so i'm not excusing it but i understand like fans. It feels like everyone on twitter like dumps on fans now and basically says his fans don't have a right to be upset. They don't have a right to say. Andrew luck owes them anything but they have every right to be like. You know what this really sucks. Guy is retiring right they do. They just probably should've should've buddhism. Pray also understand. We're all feeling was action. I just saw the trailer for the mr rogers movie over the weekend. Were all out to have feelings and we need to work constructive ways to deal with their feelings and you can sing a song you can play all the low notes on the piano all wants <hes> but maybe don't do andrew luck doc as he's balding and walking off the field. If andrew luck had announced he was retiring on wednesday and then they booed him on saturday. I'd be like that's totally different meditated. Doing this was the instant reaction in. It's not good and i'm not excusing it but i also understand fans or craze. Word was trickling through the crowd that night right like remember when bin laden got shot and it was sunny sunday night baseball and everybody was like yes john cena should have come out and announced the crowd and that way he would have taken the booze and then when it came time for andrew luck to walk off it would have been fine i think they would have they're all they all want to take it back for the most part right like there's probably a handful of okay okay. How about this. How about <hes>. I'm just saying boston new york philadelphia. All with you guys have been like classic boston classic classic new new york hang up a banner. It's different that says andrew luck didn't retired for seven years. Put that next to the two thousand fourteen f._c. Finals i even get them that far anyway so it's like you're losing that much. He had the second the second most t._d.'s in the first six seasons in n._f._l. History behind dan marino recurring guest dan marino i i don't know i just think that if you look at twitter in this might be fighting my own straw and everyone dumps ever. Everyone has the same take andrew lucked in. No you anything we know that that's stating the obvious. Just interlock doesn't owe us anything of course not but how about the fact that fans can be upset because most of these people like live and die with their teams. How how much do you think he's gonna freak out when he gets his first iphone now that he's retired oh man because he's going to be bored for why he that's why he retired he was like i need at least two months to figure out this iphone technique when his wife gets them the first iphone because she's like listen. We have to be able to taxed and do all this stuff. This is very tough on on her marriage right now because you don't have an iphone i'm sick of these fucking green bubbles popping wrapping up all the time. He's his mind is going to be blown. It's going to be like bob dylan taking acid for the first yes what <hes> what other things we have about. I the only other things i had was chris. Ballard now has a job for life because he basically gets stuck with a terrible situation and he can basically say well. Andrew luck retired is a terrible. Oh situation though is it. What do you mean jacoby. No no. I'm saying i'm saying he basically gets like five years now because when you if your franchise quarterback retires is it each twenty nine you can basically say well. I didn't see that one coming well what's going to happen. Is percents gonna play above his expectations. We want to take in charge and taking can the over on their season total right now. I think it's at eight six six and a half. I'm taking the over on that big time and then percents going to get like eight wins out of them. Cache should big paycheck somewhere else comes in sucks it up next year are takes a super bowl one or the other there's no middle ground swag and then after that they've trevor lawrence parts yeah so boom true battle boombats being culture back and then we had to hop in which is just the weirdest part of it's the weirdest part of twitter at this point point is that o._j. Simpson like in the best part about o._j. Simpson as he thinks that all these fancy football jokes are funny. This is someone told hold him. The fantasy football exists. I don't think he realized it until a month ago and he's just everything's framed in fantasy. He was mad because he had just just drafted in allegedly who is also. There's a lot of a lot of make sure to use the word around anything o._j. Does yeah so he's pissed off that he drafted andrew luck in fantasy antsy football like five minutes before he retired that would have to mean the andrew luck would be the only person to ever be on. O._j.'s can't cutlass. Yes yes pretty much yeah. He's just fuck. This is the one guy that i can't go out yeah. Yes god damn it man. He did it in a t-shirt and we're watching it right. Now is so it's just a weird story. I don't know i'd say it's a weird story. I'm i feel like andrew lock like good for him but man. It's weird well. We also talked about last week our idea for a law firm. Yes i think we you should bring that back up because me hey andrew don't use some of that twenty five million in in loose change that he got from jamaica. Just refund your fancy owners by the way this is just more point towards. I just don't do your fantasy drafts until like the second before the season kicks off because you'll just is we always happened. I don't understand the people who fancy drops in early august. You just ask them for for it. Agreed yeah all right. Go check out barstool gold dot com slash p._m._t. Andrew whitworth we talked to them in person in the van new sign in new sign in front of us right now only bar so gold people have bar would be on the signs slash anything else that we want to talk talk about andrew luck. I think that's it. I mean they totally hijacked week. Zero that was kinda fucked up schefter it did although the miami florida game was really bad. It was pretty bad really really it was a matter of who had the ball last was gonna lose and it was great too because it was so bad but then it broke all the records for people watching which people like man. We shouldn't in two weeks zero. These teams aren't ready no-no. We should do zero because everyone wants football. Yeah no weeks zero just the branding of it is spoken university florida's awesome in august. There's no doubt about that yeah. It's just when you get into like september and then late october. They start playing well again bringing you back michael irvin. Oh do here's how about the touchdown knuckles it came back touchdown old super old lady being the turnover chain like holder and i don't know if you guys saw bubbles on miami yeah that miami and number michael irvin versus tim tebow in a trash talk fast was the most lopsided thing. I remember yeah unreal tvos. It's like look at gator nation michael alert like fuck you tim tibo suck my dick tenants nordic bigger cocaine line than your whole body you bitch. He's like gin nation everywhere in florida. I'll show you a gator gator ten all right so let's do who's backing then. We'll do our mount rushmore hake. Why don't you start with who's back my who's back. I have a few the first ones breaking bad bad. Oh yeah we reported this a few times. He talked by andrew lock reported them as back and then. I said there was not back as he was starting to accompany thought it was fake news turns out. They were just filming the whole time. They released the trailer. It's coming out in the fall breaking bad movie following the season finale so i'm very excited about very excited special in the history television's going going to be awesome. <hes> my back college football names yeah okay college football like it being back just a random names at some of these teams have there's mainly williams arizona no hawaii why why on the game for hawaii don't go to the island expect to leave with a win al blades junior junior on miami young and they had the two bubbles well. That's bennie blades son yeah. Oh really wait. No that'd be obligated son. If our oh yeah so many blades his nephew yeah this is a great name or the blades and then the two bubbles that had the same number backside bubble bolden number numbers yeah twenty one all right bubba. You have to where twenty one onto every day you get the bubble number you got it. You're the now i didn't see pen in your hand. He uh okay you want to wait to go with the rest of the show and he read that down but was writing twenty uniform forum number twenty one twenty one okay <hes> my who's back the weakest peaky blinders fucking blonde twenty one yeah yeah you gotta by the way to everyone put on close gaps to close captioning. It'll be a lot better and then the rest of your life. You do do it for everything for every show. Now i now use it for mindhunter yeah so like now. I don't understand the english language and more because i know it's not it's not picky blunders back and j._j. Watt was asking if anybody has an illegal stream so j._j. If you can't afford what net flicks then maybe we have some issues with your money management. I john jaso related where we're at fifty five thousand dollar checker sixty nine thousand dollar check that we saw interesting to your netflix account questions here my other who's back. The week is burning man. So burning man is happening this week. I don't know what burning man is but it's like coachella except more naked. I think burning neuter talk anymore though it before coach making it cool. They're making a cool again. 'cause i read they win corporate but now they're pulling it back now. It's like okay okay. You're camping out in tents and we're just gonna have orgies the entire week there forty orgies that are scheduled this week c. n. Orgy that don't don't show up to a schedule. You got like a calendar notifications if sean scheduled orgy. It's going to be sixty one girl because everyone every day. It's like going to fire fest. There's going to be so many models there. It's going to be so awesome uh-huh and then it's just a bunch of finance rose from new york or a little overweight day. I'm i'm just saying their forty orgies that are scheduled this week. Yeah don't show little life back. Don't show up to schedule door or or did you just happen to happen. That's too many orgies. Even if they just happened you can't fulfil forty or gadul sex like that the love out of it and then we'll hang took my other. Who's back the week which was which was breaking bad. Oh nice all right my whose back is <hes> <hes> dave chapelle because it was his birthday and new new special the ad no no and and desmond howard said does desmond howard have to choke okay bitch on game day yeah. Which is the wayne brady. Choke mr man yeah. I didn't know we were bringing back. Those jokes if you if you were in college or right out out of college when chapelle show was on. You probably heard a million people yelling what we know can lead from john for the last four years. I'm rick james bitch which and so yeah desmond howard little tip. Don't use jokes like that at that like are fifteen years old. No one understands except people over the age of thirty does desmond howard half to choke a bitch. I knew what he was saying but i feel like there are a lot of people who had no idea what he was saying and he thought he nailed it right trey wingo uh let's leave this throws that know how to get away with saying stuff without saying stuff. Yes yes oh yeah and and game days back which is great candidates our or so students. I mean going through some tough times but he's got a job. She's call being old stroke. I know now like it's i. I i love lee corso but the point now where we should figure out a role. That's doesn't expose it. I think it's kinda sweet dog innoc- kirk herbstreit. It's the only time that i liked kurt herbstreet sure as when he's being lead or guide in his almost like i don't wanna say seeing eye dog but he's like helping them with legend helping them with the sentences and like finishing his thoughts form <hes> and that's the only time that i will ever like curbs free is when he's lending a hand like that but i'll say this like waking up on saturday morning to game day was such a great feeling yeah. I i saw your tweet me so fucking mad because i don't sleep in anymore and you're in your sleep until ten o'clock as thirty four said that's like my my my body's version of a dog. Syncing earthquake is just waking up at fifty nine yeah on a saturday and then a bunch of people apply that are like zika congrats on being a thirty four year old waking waking up at ten o'clock. Yes yeah that's yeah. I saw it and i was just like fuck. I've been up for but yeah. It's such a good feeling just waking up your so the nice thing is you refresh yup rosie assume that hank i used to wake up to the game my bets and twenty six now oh he wakes up right before yeah. We don't have a kid yeah thirty four waking up at nine fifty nine. That's nice. It is very nice <hes> breaking news by the way that the rain news peter king dropped his ado haiku saw that yeah he wrote just my opinion football wall was tormenting lock. He had to get out good one peter king. Your poetry is shitty. Ah fuck off blue dude that breaking news was brought to you by chocolate milk. Keep counting for real recovery tastes real good. God damn it. I you know this'll be honest with you. The andrew lock retirement wasn't real until we got the peter king do the accu- that's that has concluded every column peter's written for the last twenty five thirty years. He'd been thinking about that all day yeah. He's just gotta nail this i._q. Ever been waiting waiting. I'm surprised he didn't make a reference to the civil. War andrew lucked out that was the pinnacle of comedy to peter king. Jesus christ got a beard all right. Let's do our mount rushmore before we do that bud light guys but light football season. We're back a._d._l.'s. When it's football season. The crisp fall air returns turns. There's no better time to enjoy chris bud light. You know we know it look but like spend a whole sixty second ad read talking about it's crisp taste you know so i said crisp risk but rather than stating the obvious but like thought it'd be fun to give a small business the remaining thirty seconds of their at whoa. I didn't know this all right. That's right america's favorite loggers giving in your small business the chance to be heard on america's favorite podcasts. Is that us talking about us. 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Let's do it okay my first pick wow look at his face. I gotta go tom brady. Tom is one of those vans that like everything about. All time has been just like this guy wins. He knows some secret sauce. Awesome sure he'd be a very electric like really enticing personality to kind of get to know a little bit better <hes> because as us patriots fans know about him. He's he's a winner okay. He wins and he's got some secret sauce. I think he'd be just a great guest. Probably the goat guests. Did you know that was coming. No i mean i kind of. Did you have money list i yeah are you sure your list at the top the wrestling okay okay tom. Brady is my number one. Pick pick p._f. Things don't you think you'd be good. It would-be go mean big cattleman talking about agree on for a while. It will be great all right hanko. He's trying to think of a good redskin but they're exactly <hes>. I guess i'll just go with greatness kidman eto eddie graham lectured avenue. We try to hunt him down for parcel van talk and it was like yeah. He doesn't have a cell phone or an email or anything. I follow them on facebook. I still get updates sometimes but i just think it'd be hilarious to have on the show. Okay eddie grant would be a guest all right. Just say oh. I'll go with well. I think this guy's gonna come on but i'll go with kevin durant as my first pick i think he is gonna come on but i really really wanted to come on but not in a creepy. Were trying to get him on on way. No we're trying to get them off. Yeah nationally yeah forget it. Dude whatever i don't get you off kevin and then my second pick is going to be w fuck that'd be awesome. That'd be as big cardi b. so big. Take tom brady so he adds no and to take you could take her to be yeah. She's on my list okay. Oh i took her to be good. I hope to drugs you too richard pitino. Oh okay second pixel sonja be quick. Here's my thirteen second one nice. Okay okay my next. One can't believe you made this far boomer. You're chris berman. Yeah i think he'll be on the show eventually no k- know if you build it they will come situations for boomer yeah raise for who i take that what's it good no gad hank i mean i i don't think fantasy schipol podcasts no between him being alive and coming on the show jamming up. Come on hang shit. I didn't wanna say dude. We got tommy lasorda. He's still alive yeah. That's messed up hank all right so my next one on what it hasn't happened this point. Yeah i see what you're saying. I think we just put <unk> out like a nice buffet for just like i always have a nice spread ready for him. <hes> and just he'll make his way here eventually by happenstance yes. He'll be like payload. Pugh floating on the nose knows eventually get cured meats yeah so next one. I'm going to go with roger goodell. I think roger goodell would maybe know if i'd want <hes>. I would absolutely take roger such a fucking wet blanket. He wouldn't answer any questions and you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to ask the right because he would do the fucking the mike and mike thing like all right here the questions beforehand your eye roger ever think about going to eighteen weeks schedule. Hey roger. What do you think about letting letting these guys smoke little reefer and then he would just be like what we're thinking about this and we're thinking about that and then it would be and then yeah but it would be great because we could fuck with them. We pour water on him and see if he's a robot. Could duty bring all security. Those mike and mike interviews were so bad every year. I think it doesn't with someone every year. I think we would like corner and not let like physically bully him into a corner and make him answering questions until until either. His goons kicked our asses or are. We got what we wanted to let them go. I think i think no matter what roger goodell came on the show it would be appointment listening. I don't know i think i no watching him do those interviews when he does that. One a roger goodell. We got ten minutes with the commissioner every every year. Whoever had super bowl gets it yeah and it's always so terrible. Yea alright hank your second third pick. There's a lot there are loft tough thing to to boil down little. We're not to tell everyone what what to do but we're trying to get these people celinda. Tell them to come on greenie. Oh roger guitar interview we could yeah use them as a surrogate. I'll just sit there with my hand up. Green is like a puppet moving his mouth and then get him to ask you. Though the tough questions okay greenie greenie would be a good one. He is in in the neighborhood <hes> he lives not too far from our office so i've never seen them seem twice the starbucks. Our old office never met him right by there. He might not he. He said he said the parody songs reminded move mike and mike i love. It's like cool and go fucking walk in front of a bus. Did i don't care okay my next pick. I'll go with i'll go to quarterback back from my last two picks aaron rodgers being one because we yes yeah and big ben would be. I don't know what would happen if we interviewed interviewed big bend but holy shit that would be we walked in with walking boots big ben ehrenreich. Those would be very different. Aaron rodgers is smart enough where i think he would would be able to hang and big ben. I think we would just make fun of for twenty minutes. We're going over his head and he just like what's going on but he would also be able to hang because he wouldn't get it right yeah right right right yeah you may walk out and be like remember the time he took the concussion task and he's like i nailed. It and they're like big ben. You've got a concussion yeah. He'd walk out and be like man. Those guys were awesome. We we really rift yup. We just roasted him. Yeah remind me just being locker room. Bill back and forth guys conversation pouncey twins couple times hank your fourth pick. I guess i'll go because just because i think it'd be a great interview but <hes> joe biden and like his whole thing would be a great cloud crash and okay marquette all the best rock and roll time yup joe butter. That's true that's true all right my last one <hes> um all right. I'm gonna guy fieri okay. I think the guy would be a great guy tavern on the show guys call guy football guys guy guy guys we could talk about the raiders. We could talk about donkey sauce. Y'all talked about the time. I snuck into his party and broke his toilet yup. It just anything sky's the limit. We've had a yeah <hes> all right. What what what kotla left off the list. I had skipping his yes stephen a andrew lock larry david trauma sort of had on once well dude six sports <hes> <hes> i would like to have woke peter king on so since he's told everyone that he will never come back on. I'd like to have him back on as woke peter king and just talk about the merits of serial rapist darren sharper going to hall of fame <hes> for thirty minutes for ratings for ratings sports bro out what about what about hill dog the end trump at the same time. Oh good the gang back again. Just give us about twenty seven twenty sixteen magic ben affleck and mattamy together. It would be funny. That would be good steve jobs. Yep we have him on his own tweeted. Steve jobs colli. I would love to have quite just because it it would be one of those things either. We would be the guys who made cool or he would be so robotic like where he would walk out and you know what that's it. We is can't brady. Not there's nothing else there. That's how go oh yeah k._g._b. Another one would be yes c. Amax mexican bark at him would you don't you don't think so. I don't think they'll go over well. Yeah i think it'd be an awesome westchester. Leno bus ride for for twelve minutes and then left breath and took steroids. <hes> talked about hunter yeah. He came on air bud just another dog yup johnny boy cain. We don't say his name but hopefully he'll come on sometime sometime. Jim thome soula thompson had him on my list. <hes> jerry jones yup just throwbacks from johnny walker blue with them jerk play limp biscuit with a set of loafers all right so give us everyone go get us. These people please already oh drake. I mean we'd love to just talk to drake. As a fan of his music is lyrics. I would love love to see you just a wordsmith drake's face. You don't have bangers. I'd be like no. I listen that line imagine if i never met the homeys is that it fuck ah that's next level stuff. That's i mean we're talking dylan. Take an acid. That's-that's dylan hopped up on baths magic rhyme imagine it's like it's like bob bob dylan magic dragon yeah. What if we never imagined we'd. That's what i'm saying. It's great what you're mocking. No i'm not i'm saying it's so good. You're mocking imagine that was. I think it's a fucking wizardly line. That was a mock you just it's really good breath far farther before i got those game on not texting him who else to have jetta i had on here. You just wanna look at her tits. That's gross. I don't i don't wanna look you want to cook with her. I wanna cook. I want her to cook with me. I don't know misogynistic. Do you just wanna look at it. It's oh. I thought you meant like kitchen stuff. Because that's your job yeah giada solvay solvay solvay fuck salt bay. I fucking hate solvay <hes> trying to think who else anyone else. I'm still team so ford talk about rob. Remember your brother. That's not a bad idea. I bet you out of everyone who just listed. He probably supposed to table we we could probably just email him and he'd be like yep in doug ford's definitely johndroe adam sandler jon gruden. Oh adam sandler is a good one to adam sandler would've that. That's a really good one all right. Let's get to our interview with amazon rainforest. They're hot sauce. Yeah just see how horny he actually is. I i'm going to regret saying that because he controls all over brains also jack from twitter chat several ideas in a bunch of podcast. I know not arse yeah. Fuck that gives didn't do didn't jack did do bitcoin bitcoin marty's podcast what the fuck this whole world that we live in our bitcoin guy who definitely not anymore no <music> because we all lost money to bitcoin craze that swept barstool and even but yes i would yes. I would like to interview. Maybe we could via skype. No no no no no. We actually had we were offered. I don't even think that was real but someone some ad who. I was not named the name. I'm anne pierce was like hey what if we had you guys pick up o._j. From jail and we're like oh. I just ah the e._s._p._n. Thing was like pulling apart to yeah. It never actually happens when we never actually to the point where we had to sit down and be like hey guys should we we interview o._j. But yeah that was a weird one where you got a non just agreeing with you know j. firm. No yeah okay let's do you are interview with andrew whitworth before we do that. There's a new dating app out there. It's called ship s. h. I. p. Here's how it works. If you're a single you sign up invite friends who can match you and even if you aren't single you can still join to help a friend out sixty percent of the people on there are women so your odds are great. It's like the inverse first of purdue university <hes> so go right now. Check it out the new dating app. It's called ship finding data's more fun when you do it with your friends download the ship dating app. It starts swiping today. 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I feel like every year and add something to the repertoire. <hes> and i think we just we you know eventually. I guess we got an yeah. It sounds like i'm kind of against the animals yes rice the dogs or cats next probably dogs we yeah we live in a society where if you are in a way. I think that cats are more scrap scrappy. They can find their ways. Dogs need homes but we live in a society where people would actually looking at me like this guy. He does so much charity but he doesn't do this but it's actually receiver commendable so thank you for everything you do. What's your favorite. What's the one that you spend the most time with your andrew whitworth charity while i mean for the most part kids coming to visit and <hes> trying to encourage them and just <hes> you know i think it's gonna go and <hes> it never fails that they have the best questions and and can put john spot more than anybody. That was actually my first. <hes> media event when i got back from the super bowl was i went and visited a school and <hes> i would say that was harder than any media day adulated adulated on me so we're probably smarter questions raleigh. They're like hey what the hell happened on. Offense literally high win. I won't wanna isn't the life of nolan right. I caught qb. Eli what i'm talking about jared and todd and these guys just the big time primetime life so for for nolan right. I walk into the classroom. How y'all i'll do and guys like announced myself. Tell them what i do. You know from the rams how you do when i get three three statements three hands raising. If you wanna ask me something one. Where's todd gurley early to jared common. He's not coming. It's just me gas three. Wa jal lose like you know what i'm glad. I'm here to see you guys today. Nobody wants to be here in all wanna know why i'm losing so when they asked you. Why did you guys lose. Did you tell them <hes> because everybody's gonna die. Yeah we're all gonna do. I told him you you know what to tell them. Here's the truth. You guys have good days and bad days at school. You have days where you come in and just things don't go right. You get bad on the conduct list. Do your test and you have days where you come in you. Light it up and the reality is there's no matter what the next day's important day so you handle it. I think you were kind of a victim of <hes> what happens a lot with the media where we take a quote and tweet it and then it's one line and no context and no one watches the video so when we see the line ramle super bowl andrew whitworth says well. We're all gonna die someday. I think we actually talked about it on our show and joked about it but it was clearly there was a deeper meaning to it. Yeah i actually said they'd asked me some questions about superbowl and then a guy asks me said hey if you're retiring in this. Is it like your career is over. You know like how do you deal with having not one super bowl and my actual quote was like i don't care how many me super bowls or awards have won like the truth is like you know one day. All of us are going to die and it's really about how live my life every single day you know. Am i a person person that nobody wants to be around. Somebody who self absorbed and i don't care about people around me and people would say hey man. I you know what do a lot of things but god he's kind of. A jerk doesn't care yeah yeah. I don't care about the dogs apparently died. Yes basically that's the truth. It's like it's one of those things thanks to me. It's like man. I i'd rather you know what hannah myself the right way then worry about trophies and accolades very comforting voice to suck yeah. It's it's nice like you could tell you could tell me sleepy like a._s._m._a._r. Yoga instructor like you're almost like making to yoga well. That's for speaking viga. Your voice new orleans era louisiana native went to l._s._u. You guys beat the saints in the n._f._c. championship game and then you went and said <hes> it was an excuse that the saint said that do you plan on never leaving new orleans again. No i mean <hes> i. I said what i said. I think you know at the end of the day. <hes> you know being a louisiana guy we we we <hes> we love each other and we disagree. A lot and you know what i all. I said was that it's just an excuse to blame one moment and that's the truth you know. The reality is <hes> <hes> as i've said before if they were winning the game at the moment or if that play would have ended the game then that would be valid argument but the truth of matter wants. That's the game was tied. We've all seen misfield goals. We've all seen missed extra points. We've all seen kicks not go in so you know what you can't say that you for sure won the game on the one play okay yeah. It's interesting you played when you were at l._s._u. You played for nick sabin right. What was he like. <hes> you know what <hes> i think he's one of those people so that i really attribute a lot of things that is a pro that i've learned <hes> how i carry myself and things is one of those guys that at times you might not get along with just because <hes> he's pretty hard on yeah but you know what at the end of the day you value what it means to to work hard and dedicate yourself to stop and have a passion and and to be really be relentless each day about pursuing that passion 'cause semaine his intensity level really man is second to nobody. Does he smile. <hes> you know what he does smile. You've gotta talk to me. There are about his pontoon boat or lake lake <hes> you know and and at that time a little bit golf you know he sometimes you gave him in a good mood about golf. Just please bring up anything about success success you do that. It's over with rat poison. Talk about success. You talk about winning the game. I'll never forget him. <hes> are <hes> ring introduction. If we want our first national championship <hes> he told us we put them somewhere. The sun didn't shine <hes> when he gave kind of like my <hes> memory will never forget. Even what was his office like does he actually have trophies set up or is it just blank walls <hes> no. I think he's got some stuff. I think you know what honestly he probably doesn't know because he probably it doesn't matter yeah. She probably sets all that up. That's important and <hes> you know what the details. He probably matters to him is that he has a good good solid big chair because he's big sports philosophy gas. He probably has a really big chair and some little tiny chairs for you to sit in <hes> just kind of keep that tipline mentality you know outside of that he it doesn't care what's in there so you blocked for marcus russell and l._s._u. What were you surprised. It didn't go the way that you know. Everyone kind of expected to in the pros for him. Well i think he talk about the quarterback position. It's tough. I mean <hes> th there's a lot hey did and <hes> you know what you saw correctly and <hes> anytime you're talking about the quarterback musician. It's tough and i it's a it's an extremely hard position to be successful at. He had a a lot of extra unreal armed dallas yeah. I got to see that firsthand. I'll never forget when he was a rookie. I mean a rookie of freshmen in college. We would make him every friday. We had our walk through. We'd make him throw a football from the end zone line <hes> just as soon as he walked to the polls there on the game field and sucker thought eighty yards. She's warm up you know just wing it and yeah. It was special to see him in his arm. Talent was unreal. Listen just storage about jamarcus. Russell's are yeah <hes> hit the crossbar yours out kind of would like to see him be like a major league starting pitcher. Throw some some real gas so i want to talk about the quarterback iraq position how hard it is jared goff in that saints game. I thought was like his kind of not coming of age but he had a bad start and then put it all back together. Can you tell in the huddle like a guy like jared. When it's like clicks back on he's like all right. He feels comfortable now. He's meal get us to a win here and also just see no. We're like best strategist jarrett's. They don't say anything mean. <hes> don't say anything mean now yeah. Now you know what jared it's honestly. It's one of those things that always impressed you about him his really his poise and calm. He's got even when games don't go that great for him. <hes> you kinda seem as a guy that likes trust that it's gonna come back. He can make that one throw like he doesn't really ever get shelled up to where you see. Some kinda get nervous and they get kind of apprehensive with the ball. You can see that even in his bad games or a game where things just don't go his way. At first i <hes> he has that almost that shooters mentality of like a going to catch a minute and we'll make the perfect shot of the perfect throw and i'm gonna get right back on track except when it's handled that game except when it's called big cat thinks he can't play in the cold i mean i saw his face. I asked him as we were with him on sunday asked him to his face was like dude your basic crying in chicago chicago like he was he was cold. He's a kelly kit well. He is a kelly kid but i i don't know if he was called and crime but maybe cry cry. It was a the like you you don't want. It gets really cold. You got a little teary eyed. Just because it's cold it was that so what do you think we ought to do like getting like a a flame look like a heat suit. Well i think after that one like like he'll get. He'll get used to it but you know the first couple of really cold ones for kelly guys. It's up blake is also a good friend of ours. He's he he no. He didn't see snow until like two years ago. Yeah yeah so you get patent like a quarterback heats when tom brady. Where's the wetsuit underneath yeah. Are i just tell them to do a like. An office in lima doesn't just not wear any sleeves at all. Just look warmer if you're not wearing sleeves. Oh yeah ah you know here's john. It's tough as you look. Hold on. Here's how to find it. I'll wear sleeves if i ever wear sleeves. I'll wear sleeve the entire season so niki move by you like okay. You know. Let's talk move guy. You use leave guy this guy this year this year dammit. Oh we can't pick you gotta. You gotta be gotta be careful. You know the raise out here too much golf. I gotta keep you know sign. Talk yeah yeah. <hes> i read somewhere that you try to change one thing every offseason like you try different way to push yourself to try to break yourself a little bit <hes>. What's this off season. You know this offseason. It's been honestly pushing myself in a little bit of mobility and and <hes> you know really are kind of been a guy who i like to do things where it's like. Hey i'm gonna go see see. I can backpack with some heavy backpacks up a mountain or i want to go. You know sled pushing our i wanted to find <hes> track. Cross fitting are wanna try you may or whatever it is and this all season is like you know what at this point in my career like. I need to be taking care of myself. So one of the big challenges for myself off season is <hes> has been like mobility taking care of my body auty trying to find ways to make sure i keep my flexibility and keep moving and everything properly and and <hes> it's been fun like yoga do some yoga separate ozzy just in my training like you know what making sure technique wise everything that i do a move in and good ways good postures all that type stuff and a lot of flexibility in the hips and ankles and just keeping those. Thanks good good to go man case. I wanna play forty. We were just hanging out with jay glazer earlier. He said he could kick your ass. Deal the comment <hes>. I mean you know what he is is the right height to be able to kick actual hits yeah yeah he could probably kiss it. Now you know as far as actually like beating me up. I'm i'm not sure he could reach my head so true it would be hard to <hes> you know i always tell them though me and hammer you know we're coming back twins part two and <hes> it's. It's going to be special so you just said something something there. You wanna maybe plato forty offensive lineman. It's incredible that you are are playing at the age. You are right now. You're thinking forty well. I mean i don't ever think in ending so it's kinda like you know what if i am enjoying this game. I like the game okay playing the game and if i feel good and i can play a high level. <hes> you know what we're gonna. Keep riding. So what do you think it will be like. You know one one season. We'll end. It will be like all right. You know what i just don't feel like playing anymore. Yeah i think it will be the commitment to have a body feels and i feel like like i can keep you know. Honestly the off season is just <hes>. It's big for me. I mean just my age being able to get back to the strength and flexibility. I need to play well and so yeah. I think one year all in the season go you know what there's no way. I'm putting myself through all that again. <hes> it's too much pain too much stuff to go through and and this is it me feel good right now for great if you if you had won won the super bowl would that have calculated into your question of whether or not to come back. No i told my wife this because my wife has kind of honestly going into the week. She kinda thought maybe i might would retire and that's all this during the week. I said you know honestly this all this retirement stuff like i didn't bring any of this. <hes> this has been more media brought up and it's like i feel like people are like pressuring me. Hey if we win the game or lose the gag you need to retire. We need a story on. It was one of those things where i just was like. I don't feel that win or lose. I just don't feel like i'm going to retire. I mean that was your first super bowl super bowl as fans slash media member you gotta understand. We just need a narrative ways needs it like we you know the whole narrative. I saw the video video did which was actually really awesome with your kids <hes> but like that was the narrative like hitler pass kids narrative dogs exactly you did say so one more super bowl question. I know he's also yeah talking about. It was the worst game you guys played every airline to viewing anyway if we want to keep you know no shave but i'm just saying let's not do any more simple talk. Now you need to so <hes> bleak is a good friend of ours. He's really <hes> get him going. Just take the leash him by shaving his head and be like tip dude. You look really good. Let's go get on the end of the day and let's let's have you talked to him. Yet talked to him about. I will okay. Does he a bad breath <hes>. I don't think you should actually say that so we'll call this part. <unk> blake bortles has bad breath leonard fournette sit and he's been running from house breath l. approach him about it. How is this breath blake's breath. <hes> you know what <hes> i. I'm not sure that bad really bad. It's pretty bad serious question for you and you can feel free to tell me if it's dumb or not put. Is there a difference between blocking for c. J. anderson and todd hi girly <hes> no not at all. That's <hes> yeah for plays in in how it works <hes> you block do your job and those guys see what they see and and <hes> you know what they run with the styles they run with. He's thick. He's a big boy. You know what he's he's he with the olana every now and then you know he's he's a good dude and so you were in cincinnati for the majority of your your career before you came out here to l. a. What was like you you blocked for carson pommery block for andy dalton. What was your highlight that used. You're like this is the moment that i remember as a bengal. You know honestly i think for me. It's <hes> really just a combination. I really when we started when i got there and i was six and and building that franchise into you know going and having a chance to win some division championships and having success i mean <hes> in onen winning out of championship and sweep in the division with carson and his guys was it was an amazing accomplishment but then also starting all over with andy and a._j.'s rookie season going born and winning a division in their third season to me was was <hes> unreal when we had jay gruden mike zimmer and all those guys i mean it was a special group that year too so there are some great memories where obviously never i wanna playoff game and and <hes> got a chance to make that next step but really great years we had just some unbelievable seasons. Marvin lewis ever just like sit down and like when you guys in mid conversation just laugh and be never getting fired dude. This is awesome no no he. Did you know what <hes> you know what people wanna winner and <hes>. We want a lot of games there. We just didn't find a way to win win the playoff games <hes>. That's the tough part with those things. It's like you know in the n._f._l. It's never easy to walk out of a regular regular season game with a victory. <hes> and we want a lot of them. We just didn't find a way to win. When they you know it was it was do or die right. You still hate the steelers now that you're not part of that rivalry anymore. No not really i never did then. I mean you know what is just one of those things that <hes> you compete against somebody and and i look at like training camp right like your defense like you love those guys but in training camp you're so tired of them putting their hands on you and you have to put your hands on them that <hes> things get testy time to time and i think the steelers it was to really good teams and and <hes> <hes> it was always a lot on the line when we played each other so i think is one of those things where we just at times got frustrated with each other and then other guys kind of have their own little internal battles with one another it. It is what it is. Did you ever allow yourself to be a little bit intimidated by james harrison when he saw workout videos. <hes> you know what it's easy to get intimidated by james harrison. His workout cut videos videos or special. <hes> you know what <hes> real special <hes> <hes> you know ordinary special and and <hes> you know what he's the bee's there's no doubt about that and <hes> you know having to be the guy that ran against him every day for about eight or nine years <hes> my head still feels it and so is the rest of my body because he had a little bit of leverage on me so it's kind of like me run into a fire hydrant just over and over and <hes> it's <hes> you know what dudes out of hard head to yes yes last cincy question skyline chili yes or no pau negative yes there. We go andrew network. That's going to hurt the people cincinnati eddie but we love them. I mean they're great. People terrible case in chile. It's just you if you grew up eating at you like they don't want to admit it but that's the truth. It's stockholm syndrome. I grew up eating it so you think it's good but it is not it is not good warmed up baby. Especially a guy from louisiana has real good for weight then you put spaghetti underneath. It all makes yes ask. Just what have you fried it then. You'd probably be into it. Maybe i actually think blended skyline chili would taste better than eating at just straight up like you're supposed to turn into a smooth. It's it's it's gross. It is very gross all right so so what's your shoes. Oh seventeen louise. How many beers can you no. I hadn't tried all right. They save big big feet in your shoes. Yeah that's about it. That's right exactly. Are you going to be in the hall of fame. No i don't think so why i don't know okay will you should try a little harder popular enough well. How many do i don't four five something like that. Okay medium just forty five and you know what here's what you need to do. After every single game just call peter king yeah okay give him your take on and what happens to them some beer getting his calling the instagram post were like keep talking about how good i am constantly dominated this. We catchers i yes i love those guys the workout video guys. Oh i you know nobody were their team lost by forty or i had a great day. You need to do so it works. I'm assuming that during training camp you have to eat a lot to maintain your weight right because you're working out. Sorry my wrong in that. I mean yeah you okay so you need to take pictures of the amount the food that you eat narrative. Keep keep talking about everything that hurts every journalist and this week the over came to keep lying about your like. I'm forty now and it's really hard out there. Yeah damn if you just say right now. I wanna play play until i'm forty dan. That's narrative scenario. I wanna play thome forty. Okay got it. Do you have any questions russes media members well. I mean you said you ever relationship with jerry go. What's your favorite thing about jared goff. He's just chill or what's your favorite thing about sean mcvay <hes> his memory yeah i would say his voice thought you were going to be but knows this is my least favorite actually gets really self conscious. He's asked us not i to swear to god he's like why are you guys always myself. So this is what you should do you should be you should say you know what we're actually not going to because wits as better various right. That's good. That's good. I seem to say somebody else. Maybe not yours because you're isn't that good looking nice. It's looking better right. There's no it's not really shot. No your beer does look nice. Little looks good yeah. <hes> this is kind of the the george clooney effect yeah i'm trying to you know it's like i don't have anything that looks like george clooney semester. <unk> beard beard is it's a strong touch so it's just try to go. The gray fox looks exactly all right my last question seekie question putting promo take you get ten dollars offer seek purchase you like that. I was thinking thinking purchase. You can go to <hes> a rams game this year. Hopefully they'll go no. I don't want you back soon. I wish you luck. Thanks okay twitter. Today's after the super bowl why you know what <hes> it's really one of those things is culmination of throughout the year. I just kept being like man. I read this junk too much and <hes> <hes>. I had an instance with my son michael. Who's <hes> got a little swag to him and he's not afraid to kind of call michael's. He is and <hes> sean. We'll tell you about him and he's one of those things that <hes> he kinda called me out one day and he's just like dad. Could you please get off a twitter today and throw the football to me and i was like the fact that he knows sweater and he's is like calling me out for throwing the football with him. I'm out. I was like you know what i'm gonna just rest off-season amount and then i got off and a loved it and i was like you know what this is awesome. I'm not actually worried about what every single person on the planet has said right and so now. I'm just an instagram. Go okay twitter yeah. We needed for our job but you yeah can't quit twitter. I might yeah yes <hes>. Is it weird being older than sean mcvay. Um in question weird. No i mean i. I don't really even think about to be honest. If he's telling you something different you're like hey. I've been around the longer the better well you know. Roy ninja turtles you know usually don't want to get an argument with him over stuff that you know or don't know because he's got insane insane memory his knowledge is pretty high but most of the time that really wouldn't come into play kaz more you know being being a an olam and you're usually looking at people when they tell you to do something like have you ever put your hands on somebody else and tried to move them when they're three hundred pounds. I appreciate your sentiment but do you know how hard that is so it's kind of one of those things no matter what your age <music> probably looking at you like yoga yeah okay <hes> by the way here's a tip one tip for the road <hes> when you do please pass forty four on do the whole aw i might retire might not retire and be able to skip training camp. I like yeah. I'm going to say that. I'm actually off supporting dogs during training yes yes. I'm gonna miss during doing doing and then you get to play the fun part. Yeah 'cause training camp sucks. Although it's gotten soft you guys gone soft super cool. If i like ran out the tunnel with a dog the opening yes yes yes yes madam eddie charities except off on the sideline and take a picture put on social media and that dog goes so for adoption. Every sunday got sixteen dogs homes for yes really bad that we've come up with a cool idea each dog. Oh so you've got a great idea and and now i don't do it. I hate them. Yes so andrew whitworth. Thank you very much madam. Many charities who hates dogs folks. We're gonna right when you retired. I thought i was feeling good also turmoil famer. We'll get we can get. We have the power to do that. So once we put it out there dog love instagram post about dominating play on pictures of your food all the pictures of food <hes> <hes>. We got it all right man. Thanks that interview with andrew whitworth was brought to you by simply safe. According to studies only about ten percent of break ins or planned beforehand. 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I had you know i use it the other week. I had a sore shoulder because i slept on it funny and i woke up. I put it on. I didn't quit my job. I came in podcast that that night rose c._b._d. Freeze my shoulder andrew luck. You should be able to do the same and add these premium c._b._d. Products here roster visit c._b._d. M._d. dot dot com and take twenty five percents off your order enter the promo code. Take at checkout that's c._b._d. M._d. dot com promo code. Take at checkout get twenty five percents off your order of high quality c._b._d. Products from c._b._d. M._d. Okay let's get some segments first up. We have talking golf rory mcilroy beat brooks but could barely lift the trophy. Did you see that his twig assholes lame yeah. It's actually brooks really one. It's actually pretty sad. That like roy has to go out there. After brooks shown us with a real man looks like a trophy and probably brooks. You know like say what you want about is play this weekend but he's probably more used to play naked. I can really feel in all sorts of encumbered by wearing clothes on the golf course for change because he led his balls hang out all over the tour last week by being the bodies issues so i'd say that he's real a winner here. What'd you think about brooks performance. Oh hank i think he had it in the bag and he showed a little bit. Don't use the c word for shocked but he could have won that tournament. He's do you ever think about that is reluctant. Wanna keep playing football. Don't has a fan. He goes well. You don't ooh don't cast your failures onto brooks. Okay brooks was doing great today. He's you know what was the last tournament of the year. He's probably board is shit of golf <hes> so so we just fucked. This is just one of the season's playoffs next year next week or really. I thought this was known round playoff. No there's the playoffs. I think coming up yeah as we last regular season season. I saw an ad for just like what is going on. Understand it anymore. Listen if it just means that motivate brooks to play better in the playoffs because he internally is is probably saying the same thing. He's like randy. Moss plays when he wants to play yeah. That's pretty much all famous trae cash last. I checked yep. Yeah not a super bowl champion this next week. My dick hatcher will brooks has mad majors. How many six too many were he's got. Four majors majors right five five five five five majors and a nude spread in a magazine. I know answer five. He's got to u._s. Opens a master's. It's no no he's got three u._s. Open to torture championships. He's only got three. No that's not right. That's not right. He's at police. He's got at least five. He won his third at the two thousand eighteen p._j. Championship so that means four one the u._s. open to just look up his wikipedia and it will say it. He's got four five. He's got four just got four. Damn hashtag electric's play nude okay well. He's going to get five six seven eight next year. He's going to get eight majors next year. Yep yep yep all right. We have a drunk idea idea. <hes> president trump wants to blow up a hurricane fuck that so metal. How is there not an a._c._d._c. song already written about blowing up a hurricane. Isn't this just geo storm is it. I think i saw the previews for by. Never watch listen to me. I'm pretty sure that's the i'm g._o._p. I'm of the mindset that if you're going to launch a nuclear weapon at something it's pretty bad asked to hit a cloud with it. Yes absolutely. I want to know what happens. You know there was actually a plan back. In the fifties or sixties like in the height of the cold war to nuke the moon just took to show the soviets that we could do it. That would have been so pretty fucking cool right. That's like that's like the best july fourth fireworks but then they nixed it because they're like oh might like like the moon into the planet and tides and everything moons kind of important turns out. You've got to stop a hurricane <hes> move. I'd move away from there. I'd run away from the hurricane couldn't catch me just get a bunch of windmills on the coast and how would i stop a hurricane blood back. I would play in defense in the second half and let them commit a lot of turnover penalty selected them out attacking the bear who that's nice or what about swine inflow what about a ninja remember when ninjas cool he he just worked interested have a moment then just were hot and like two thousand three three ninjas great movie great kick back with some might save. It doesn't even know that movie damp fuck getting old all right trouble in paradise before we get to our monday rian troubled paradise dice <hes> dwight howard signed with the lakers so he not only signed but it was a non-guaranteed signing so essentially the lakers said we can date you and break up with you at any point without like you can't move your toothpaste toothbrushes in the house. Yeah no can't do any of that shit in here. Yeah you can just show co op. We'll see if we get along and then maybe we'll make it official yeah. They're tears to this agreement like if you make it to christmas time then you can bring your snakes to california white. I signed the permit permit for you. I don't understand the signing and i do in a weird way because it's perfect for lebron to be like you know. The old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend yeah so lakers fans. No matter what happens no matter how shitty the team plays they're going to hate br. They're gonna hate dwight more than they hate. Bronco so lebron has a real easy fog. I had a point at eight hundred and then be like we got rid of the fall guy now. It's time for us to gels a team yeah. It actually is not a bad idea to have dwight howard on your team so that when you need the like late february shakeup because your team has gotten to like a little malays. You just cut quite howard. I've also said for four or five years that dwight howard is the n._b._a. Wind wind mom and this was before. Lebron got really into wine. Just he puts off that vibe a little bit later. I don't think he drinks. I think he's a wine guy. I don't think so. I don't think he drinks he's. He's he's a snake guy. I think i don't drink zooming out there snake. They swirl their wine. No i don't i would be shocked if he's a big god guy and a snake guy that wind wind well. Those are too poor. Laura duels guy a wine or a god and snake yeah is that is very. I mean it's fucking. Snakes are using for since the beginning dude. He's an apple guy then since book will number one yeah. What's your favorite book. I like all of them. I mean i just respect bible stewart monday. Reading all right was my favorite verse imagine if i never met the homeys shutout that verse <hes> all right here's the money reading i twenty one year old female think like my boyfriend twenty five year old male is a necrophiliac and i don't sound like a taylor swift song right off the bat. I don't know what to do. Necrophiliac for people who don't know uh-huh is people who like to have sex corpse you know a lot about necrophiliac's people. I have dated my boyfriend for almost five years and live with it wheat. She was sixteen okay all right. Okay <hes> criticism sixteen. He was eighteen twenty. How okay all right yeah. It's actually the opposite of ood necrophilia are here we go. I've dated my boyfriend for almost five five years and lived with him for three. We're very close and i'm hoping oh well that show him for waiting until she turned eighteen to move in <hes>. We're very close and i'm hoping he'll pop the question soon. Most of our life together is great but our sex life is just weird okay. He's always wanted me to stay. Stay still during sex. He says that someone moving around is distracting. He's the only person i've slept with so. I didn't think it was the big deal <hes> just a little weird. That's kind of strange sometimes. He asked me to hold my breath but i thought that could be a choking fetish recently. He wants to have sex when i come in from the cold. We're up in canada so we have ample opportunity. He won't have sex if i'm i'm hot or sweaty which is understandable. No that's not at all all right. Here's the one thing i hate about sex however things like hot and moist unlike slippery that's old not ising guys hate that here's where stuff gets weird. We were watching minehunter a show about the f._b._i. Tracking talking serial killers and i realized he had an erection. Maybe he's just into like the psychology. Maybe he's into the atlanta child murders i yet may well no maybe he's just into politics and like how they natalie. Shell kidding resources to solving murder. I've watched all season two. There's no scene where boehner's <unk> are allowed are appropriate or going through. It's not even like going head right now. He's in one. They had the one of the main f._b._i. Guys had the girlfriend like arc that right with ben a- boehner what if they solve the case though you're allowed to get erection if you solve a case the doctor is does let's get a girlfriend. Wendy gets girlfriend. Maybe boehner yet. I maybe the girlfriend but i'm saying at most i there are three minutes total in a nine episode run where a boehner could be so like you. Could you could talk out your way out of having random erections so we're not going to say that this is like definitive just yet just because he had a board could have been that one <hes> okay. Hey then two days ago. I found searches of dead bodies on his computer while that's hard with that kind of solve started with that one the mind hunter and all the other stuff okay. He was intentionally looking for this shit. It was really graphic and gross asked him who is favourite n._f._l. Coach of all time is if he says jim caldwell. Get the fuck out of the just leave that zipcode don't pack your shit like weird that they she said all the other stuff and then she's like oh yeah and by the way there was dead people on his computer. All the weird behaviour clicked for me. I haven't said anything to him. I'm scared for my own safety yup honestly because i don't know if he'll try to kill me dark. I have no idea how how to confront him or bring up. The idea of couple's counseling any and all advice would be great. Well good news is she went to read it for this advice. <hes> i'm sure there will be a bunch of people who it will guide her in the i've never been more certain of anything in my life than the fact that this guy also has rented account yeah and he's probably already read it well yeah. He's he's probably on. I'm sure there's a necrophiliac or the bustle sports sub the food necrophiliac anonymous. There's got to be ready for this red for everything right. I don't really spend much time. I'm more of an h. N. guy he'll nice upgrade yourself up a little bit. I mean i just assume we've been i keep keep getting tweeted these monday readings and they seem to be read and it's just like okay yeah i. It sounds like a pretty open and shut case to me yeah. Just here's what you do. You just pretend to die one day and see what i move. Is you ever do that. I do that have to confess. I've done that with my dog once or twice as just like pretend to be passed out and what they would do and then he comes up and you're like noses me. I'm like all ear. I love you so what you do. Is you pretend to be dead on the floor. Maybe like spill a little bit cool eight or something like that around your neck see. What is i move is is it to call the cops or is it to take his pants off and then you answer yeah okay do that and let us know well what we actually won't know unless you another one and it happens to be monday reading in the future <hes> we won't be following up on this. Is there a alternate version of necrophilia where you get off on. Having people think that you're dead or the opposite of like you need. People who are super alive like maybe talked too much yeah to you want to like someone who just completely vivacious the person you know. That's just always a bundle of energy. That's the opposite of necrophiliac. Yeah i guess so so lost on this. This is fox. What are you what are your thoughts saying. Get out. Get out. Get out good advice which make a movie we about but i do the thing where you pretend to be dead like you do for your dog or just put put a mannequin on your bed and see fox it yeah there there you go. That's the answer. I love it or find a dead body and then see if he fucks. Here's what you do suggest hey. Why don't we go picnic and the graveyard yard yeah. Let's just see if he likes it. Yes if he starts touching the ground getting a boner. They're like hey zombie movie this weekend. <hes> let's check it out yeah. You need to dig a little bit deeper because i think just having dead people people porn on the computer not as quite enough. That's not your own. His a dead vagina could end up on your clicking. Ah on you porn you can end up any wormhole and this is entrapment nebraska right. We figured it out so i guess we're on that guy said all right. We'll see everyone wednesday with today's date ah <music> they've been doing. 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I didn't have a vacation i._d. Station or i got to stay around the house and hang out with my kids station that workout. It was good. You know it's a sort of a revolving door. Who's coming in. Who's leaving. How long are they standing. When are they going. You got money for me. Dad station this sitting around. The house working on my takes my heartaches. That's all i did. I got a big yard work. No no no no not too much played with the dog. You know what i did. I did this for the last <hes> two days. Guess what i did the last two days and it has nothing to do with andrew luck seasons at in your basement i did that i was in my car listening adding to the grateful dead the new taylor swift album ooh lover yeah the last two days two days yeah how many songs author on this album i went through the couple times bach said no no just taylor's just talking to me. Let me know how our life is. It's it's most revealing album of all time. I think do you feel seen so. I finally feel hurt yeah so i <hes> i did that the last two days i can say that now. Do you know that other things. That's happened over the past two days that you want to know. I was caught up on sports. Watch the miami i i was actually i was longing for a preseason n._f._l. Game aim after watching miami against florida. Did you experience some type of trauma. That caused you to sit in your car for two days listening to taylor no not at all well. I might have been in a reflective mode load. I don't know being around my kids sprinkle in a little adele to liven it up and nothing new i i would. I was all over the map with music. This must graves <hes> i would do that. He's actually great yeah. I i was <hes> sprinkling in and doing some <hes> hootie and the blowfish so that was what i was doing over the weekend pretty exciting stuff. You know what it wasn't long ago. I think it was last week when two weeks ago when mclovin said hey how about this poll question is andrew lock more likely to be an slight disappointment or hall of famer and this is when the ankle injury came. I remember it was the calf and then the owner robert say said i think it's an ankle and then i started to think there's more involved in this. There's more to this story. Sorry ben just glynn from the calf to a high ankle. I don't even i still don't know what he has but we know it serious enough that he announced his retirement and everybody's got an opinion on this. His decision to retire was a shock to the system for you know the the entire n._f._l. Nation when people say boy oy this is the most shocking football story we've ever heard i mean like new. No no no no how about we start with o._j. Simpson michael vick aaron hernandez. Those are shocking stories. Andrew looks different cat all right he is. He went back to college to get his degree. He could have left after his junior year. He went back to get his degree in architectural design. I believe he there are guys who are or football players and then there guys who play football most our football players j._j. Watt is a football player. Should he still be playing football. No no not at all but it andrew luck is a guy who is a guy who was good at playing football. I don't know if he's a a football guy and there's a difference in that but that doesn't mean he wasn't good at it or didn't love it. I just think that we're we're so unfamiliar. Oh you're with an athlete who uses logic where you go. What are you doing. Most football players in pauley had the analogy. Let's say you have a rock rock in your shoe. Most football players will continue to play in fact. Stop down on the rock. Where is andrew luck goes. How about. I just take the rock in my shoe. I mean it sounds logical. He just took the rock out of a shoe. Football players will tie the shoe differently like they'll somehow find a way. Hey i'll walk differently who care i'll take madison. Shoot me up. Whatever andrew lucked just said. I'm gonna take the the pebble <music> out. He's removing football from his life. Everybody has an opinion on this and when he started rattle off the list of injuries it makes a lot of sense but it's hard for us to imagine and by the way athletes are just commodities. We've moved on from all of these athletes. We don't care really don't care eric. Dickerson joined us in los angeles when we were out there and here's one of the great running backs of all time any looked great. I said the kind you look like you could give me a couple of carries. He said people don't realize the toll that this takes on goes. I slept in a reclining chair for two years because i had neck and back injuries. Nobody cares about eric dickerson's injuries. Nobody cared about jim. Mcmahon's injury his health. He thought about killing himself. We move on and andrew luck realizes that and yes he got paid paid and the reason for people to be upset and how do you do this to your team. And how do you quit on your team. I understand those emotions. I really do but i have to look at this and say andrew. Luck did what andrew luck thought he needed to do. Is it inexcusable to you know oh colts fans. Yeah i get that. I don't think he's saying boy. Watch what i'm gonna do. I'm going to set up the colts for failure now. I don't think i think that he had to process this. It took a long time. It's something you do you do well. It's your identity and maybe he doesn't want that is his identity and can you get away from this. You know the guys who had all the surgeries. I'm seeing all of this stuff here. Everybody's saying how do you do. I understand all of those emotions. Russians here but andrew lock did what andrew lucked thought he needed to do. If barry sanders was a quarterback and he walked away we would have abba bigger issue with what barry sanders did at age thirty-one calvin johnson at aged thirty. Jim brown age thirty. What are you doing walking away from the sport. Guess you've got a contract extension. There are a lot of questions. I have ranted you luck in this situation. When did you really know and when did you let the cold snow and what is the reason. Is there more surgery down. The road like you went through shoulder. You had and i put some of this on the colts by the way ryan grigson in particular the former g._m. What did i say for years. You have this investment. It's like having this unbelievable engine but then you have a car that's falling apart. You traded for trent richardson. You didn't use any lyman you finally went out and got quinton nelson and what happened. Andrew luck had the best season of his career. He had the fewest sacks. It's not something that takes a whole lot of thought. Hey how about we have a good offensive line. Chances are andrew. Luck might be able to play play a little bit longer but so many injuries and then you start to get down on yourself and you get in your head and you don't wanna go through it and and i look i couldn't play the game. I've told you if you ever watched a game on the sidelines. You never let your kids play. It is violent. It's more violent than you think because when you hear it you can close your eyes on the sidelines just listen. There's no way you go yep. I want to play play. I know we're macho. I know we all wanna play through pain. I did stupid things with my knee and my shoulder waited thirty five the years to get my torn rotator and i'm not even a pro athlete. I have an artificial knee because i was stupid when i played this guys out there and they're taking shots at him. He's getting hit lacerated kidney. He's got shoulder. He's got yeah. I understand all of these injuries. Do we want him out there. Yes because it's about us he. What are you doing to my fantasy team. Hey what you doing to my colds. You're you guys got a chance to. I understand hold loose things but this is something that we don't understand an athlete who says i'm gonna take a logical approach. He's a guy he's got a flip phone. He's got a book club. I mean he he's not your normal guy. Hi and we can't understand this. He's newly married. We can't understand this because all of us would go. I killed a play and make that kind of money and be a starting starting quite yes. This story is about us in how we perceive. This people didn't play wanna tell you they would play or how oh you need to play or. What's wrong with your your soft. You gotta take a step back and andrew luck. Doing i see all of this twitter chatter. Oh this is going to stay with him forever. I is very sanders. A quitter calvin johnson a quitter. Is jim brown a quitter right i. I haven't heard that i'd never heard somebody say. Jim brown's a quitter. Barry sanders quit walked down on the <hes> the lines how can you do. I guess andrew luck is a quitter but i'm guessing will move past this calvin johnson. Is he a quitter or see smart. I don't know i just i saw this reaction this vitriol that andrew luck how dare you do for this. He walked away from his team. I get i get it. He gave up on a sport. He excels at but no matter what people say. I think we can all agree. Andrew luck was outstanding when he did play and wishing luck and no pun intended with his life after football. We'll come up with a poll. Question phone calls where where were you on saturday night when you saw that news because i i had somebody who said do you know anything about andrew luck retiring and was adam schefters twitter account hacked and i go whoa whoa whoa i gotta turn off taylor swift now i gotta do some homework here and and then i realized oh boy andrew luck is decided to walk away yes well when mclovin sent the text that was like a <hes> schefters after's reporting <hes> andrew luck. I had my first reaction was. I hope this isn't a fake schefter account in just got fake schefter. Yeah the add to go because that's the other thing about adam schefter is that he's so big and such a good journalist that all of these fake accounts. You really have to triple check to make sure it's the real one yup. Oh i was at my house and i had two families over. We're on vacation so there's kids that were running around the football games on and see it on my phone. Andrew luck is retiring schefter so i look and i'm like wow that the schefter guy is so good at this spoof account that he found a way to put a fake blue mark blue check mark. I was that sure it was it was a bit and i kept looking like this is too big. I kept looking at than anderson that note and then the scroll on the bottom the florida game in miami and like oh no and i'm yelling at everyone in the room shut up shut up for a second can and they think i'm nuts because what is this and half. The room doesn't know who andrew luck is so it was fascinating yeah mclovin. We gotta remember to this last week where we were going there too big big fake fake tweets that caught a lot of our friends. There was one on it antonio brown doing all these crazy things at the raiders that all the top n._f._l. Reporters orders tweeted out and then there was another one about asking for a trade so the fake news has been flying on the it's so easy paws right you can fake a blue check to now so i obviously where i thought it was fake for sort while i was watching the florida miami game and i saw it on the bottom of the screen. There and i thought it was had to be some kind of mistake or someone in a control room somewhere. Put something hang up prematurely or they just type something wrong. There's no way andrew lucked not playing and then i saw where adam schefters getting you know. People are saying. Why did you tweet when you tweet. I'm like that's his job because it changes. The whole story went went schefter tweeted that changed the whole story because he's on the sidelines blinds. Andrew luck is on the sidelines when we get the news cameras are on him if if he gets through the next two hours he's he's at home when shefty tweets this doesn't have to talk he can he'll be having a press conference today and then he has a chance to gather his thoughts a little bit here. Have everybody there with him in unison but you know shefty tweets it and you're going wait. Andrew luck is on the sidelines. When did he tell oh and i'm trying to find out some some background on this did did he let the colts no back in april because somebody it who's close to this source said to me he might have informed them this. This was his thought he was having these thoughts that he he told jacoby bruce last week prior to saturday might've told him thursday or friday from what i'm told but i don't have much more information to tell you about this because everybody was sort of scrambling going wow okay certain thing remember when he led out that he was he was depressed oppressed. This was a couple of weeks ago and i thought okay. I applaud him for saying that. I've gone through depression i. I know that it's hard to say that you you know you're going through it or and i thought maybe it was through that because i can i can understand where you're sitting there and you just you get down own because you wanna be great and whatever he was going through whatever he is going through but when he said and i thought wow you know that's that's a lot more revealing than i thought and i did take note of that. I'm just going okay something a little bit more to this but everybody's got an opinion and we'll talk to a couple of people who have some opinions strong opinions. Dan dockage is the <hes> former college basketball coach. He has a radio show in indianapolis. I booked team because of your reaction and i want you to understand when i have people on the show that doesn't mean i agree with them. Sometimes it's the opposite i mean. Dockage went both barrels andrew luck. Bob kravitz is gonna join us. He's covered indiana sports for a you know a few decades now he works for the athletic indie sports writer kurt warner is gonna join us a little bit later on as well and your phone calls are always welcome mclovin. You got a poll question. Can we do best and worst of the weekend but we'll try to come up with a poll question <hes> with andrew luck so we've been getting bombarded on twitter with andrew questions <hes> a lot of them are of the form willie come back but our buddy peter burns e._s._p._n. Tweeted us saying who's more likely to come back or who will come back. I andrew luck to the n._f._l. Urban meyer to college college football easy right yeah well. Here's my question. Does you know the impression of andrew luck by paulie also retire. I follow the lead of andrew and we are retired. I mean if it's not an impression without him. He said you it can exist on its own. He said he's done. We're done okay well. I think the the captain andrew luck twitter account is is going to go dark. Nah i yeah i think that's the real damage from this well so all this comeback in two years when the patriots signed forty i actually i i had this thought as soon as i saw the news i go. I wonder if the colts would trade for eli manning. I can go no. What am i doing like i i can't can't i can't be sending this out or telling anybody. I'm having these thoughts here late. You know just made people like a car. I mean anyway anyway. I wonder if they trade for alive and i got a great house. He rent aw moving south back rent my hot house. Yeah no well. He can't recharge brett farve retired. We didn't retire brett farve. Should our tire corey far. Mike come back flu. It was still having nice kurt warner. Our guests at kurt warner almost always come back. Yeah you know the way the cardinals are playing. He doesn't wanna come back without offensive line. Tony romo no eight seven seven three d._p. Show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com <hes> doug gottlieb had take on this. He did doug doug head of delegation hot. Take on there not really or not yes he did and i think mclovin actually agrees don't do that do agree with one aspect within one aspect when we come back because mclovin is team gottlieb. Don't don't ever link me with that man okay. No actually i got. I've got lee brought in the word millennials that bewitched okay hold on and the whole ignored hold on. I know i know. Do you agree with dan dockage. 'cause i'd docket. I don't agree with the fact that andrew luck with soft. I do you agree with the other part with doug godly mclovin sort of agrees with dugout by the way can can we move past doug gottlieb stole somebody's credit card in college i every time doug says something and the response if you don't like it is and you stole all the credit card and college. I'm like okay. Doug is that was when he was what nineteen eighteen never forget. Let's move past. 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It's an accelerated bachelor's degree the degrees grease in sportscasting you learn all aspects of this business from being in front of the camera behind the camera podcasting radio and everything in between we even talk about hot takes aches having a hot take and what that means exploring that backing up with stats got a great former producer s._p._n. Who who heads up the entire program in orlando gusts ramsey program director and <hes> i make my way down there quarterly to visit with the students got first graduating class coming coming up in october and we hope that they will be put in position for jobs in this business. Dan patrick school sports canton go to full sail dot e._d._u. Slash dan patrick. I there's a couple of things here that i i wanna bring to your attention. Doug gottlieb had a tweet yesterday and dan dockage who's also going to join us had a few takes a few tweets. Yesterday you know part of what dockage was saying and this is the local aspect you know. Dockage is a local indiana guy. Radio host played at indiana former college. Basketball coach played for bob knight. This is the local approach which is what i wanted. I wanted to hear that from bob kravitz i- nationally i know what everybody is saying but you know this is what he was saying that you know he talked about. Why now why why are you doing it. You're leading your team down. You know this is about rehabbing and you don't you know you're tired and you don't want to rehab and all of those things and then <hes> doug gottlieb said retiring cause rehabbing is too hard is the most millennial thing ever okay. I went okay. Somebody's got to help me with this. It's the most millennial thing ever and mclovin said i can transcribe this for you. So what exactly is doug gottlieb sang about millennials and is andrew luck no well first of all nobody. Nobody cared about the not a single person. The fifty five thousand people rip doug mentioned the millennial part of his tweet though not everyone was looking for someone to yell at because they were mad on saturday tonight and doug was the guy that yellow mad because andrew electricty. No one wants to see him retire but <hes> oh wait. We have no going so anyway. Millennial just a couple of things about millennials. I looked up andrew luck. Technically millennial there between twenty three and thirty eight or twenty four and thirty eight so is millennial millennials are also called generation integration me. I andrew lock out on saturday night you know they they make decisions. That are for them. I've come to <unk> verbiage fork in the road. I made a vow to myself that if i ever did again and i choose me over the sport so it does feel like this doug gottlieb have a point i his point is yeah. The millennials have a different viewpoint on what's important to. I think that maybe he's saying like millennials are like well everybody every other generations like you've gotta help the team. You gotta do this. You gotta do this. Maybe a millennial lineal might say hey maybe outside. Interests are just as important sports. Maybe that's what douglas yet. I think he was trying to be funny. Oh you do. I don't think anybody was laughing laughing. Well millennials also don't aren't exactly experts laughing at themselves okay but you know he's he's. He doesn't believe in modern technology. There's a trend move away. Millennials sink like social media. I've read. I don't know that they think social the stuff is stupid and they're moving away from that a little bit. Yeah see i would have thought andrew luck remind me of a guy who grew up in the fifties not in two thousand ten two thousand twenty. He feels almost so old school. He couldn't be a mile flip phone that carrying remember raise rookie year and he revolve reported that he passed on all the sponsorships ups all those media deals as the first clue that that guy was different and by the way <hes> he is a huge fan of architecture that is about as millennials you could possibly league and he loves avocados also very millennial your team godly is what you are. No i mean i don't i. I think it's ridiculous to rip retired after all those injuries but i think and nobody cared about the millennial. All all anybody said was. Hey you stole a credit card when you were in college too because the far right is going after doug with all guns blazing. The far left is after dog with all guns blazing. I don't even it. It's a way the perfect tweet and made everybody mad doesn't this. This is what these stories come down to. It's your your opinion. No matter what your opinion is as you see it from one way and then somebody sees it from another way and we sort of lose sight of what exactly has happened here. It's about my opinion european. We don't agree and let's let's discuss bob kravitz the athletic senior staff reporter and has been covering indiana sports for a long time. Where does this rank on top. Stories is that you've covered in indiana sports history. <hes> i let me just say i am not a millennial but the owner operator of two of them <music> <hes> i this is number one. You know we were at a ballgame when we found out that the brad stevens and taken the job <hes> with the boston celtics six so that was up there. <hes> you know the brawl <hes> that was up there but as far as where the hell did this come from what is going on what what is happening to our lives. This is numero uno no question about it because i thought that he might not be a long timer honestly as i've come to know him over the years and is as the injuries of have you know <hes> continued but for for it to happen just two weeks before the season when it appeared that he was on the right track to to return this is number one. I said this about fifteen minutes ago. There are there are there are football players but then they're also people who play football and i think andrew luck feels like a person who plays football not a football claire. Does that make sense well. You know we want our ethics to be well rounded. You know we want them to have interests outside of of the sport they play and that's sandra. Andrew cares <hes> about architecture. He cares about the world. We had conversations about <hes> the political ramifications of of different soccer <hes> games you know <hes> barcelona versus madrid and all that kind of stuff. He cared about stuff outside football. It doesn't suggest that you loved or loves the game any less than somebody else than say acquaintance nelson nor or whomever you might they come up with <hes> but he is a guy who is <hes> a multi faceted <hes> you know he stayed in college a fourth year when and everybody knew he could have come out after his junior jerry then after sophomore year so he's just a different cat and <hes> you know. I think we all recognize that that from the start if you had one question for luck today over being. When are you coming back to. Do you think he's coming when back you know i saw some of my colleagues from the athletic steve holder and and jackie t._v. last night. They both think that he's done i don't i think that he's done just the way pat. Mcafee was ready to come back back back if he retired at the age of twenty nine as well <hes> and i i always felt that at some point pat with about returning and he was considering a return specifically the chicago bears <hes> where you they've got twenty seven. He's different guys trying out the kicker spot. <hes> i do think that andrew lock at some point joint is gonna start feeling really good physically and emotionally and i may be in the in the minority here but i have this weird <hes> feeling that at some point we may see andrew luck again. We may see him in a colts <hes> uniform. I don't know i'm sure they did this but my initial thought was aftershock then i went. I wonder if they could have said to him. Take the first four weeks off or take the first half half of the season off. Get healthy mentally physically like this wasn't a knee jerk reaction though knowing andrew lock. It feels like he didn't didn't just decide this in the last. You know week to ten days bobby. I thought i absolutely no this has been going on for quite a while. Timor's say you know i made some comments about how he's had conversations with the andrew in the past and when he says the pastel he's talking about the last week and a half about talking him out of retiring right and i i got the sense i listen to the tape for the third time <hes> that he was <hes> suggesting that they had these conversations when you have the initial shoulder her <hes> situation and look he was considering walking away from the game when he was going through the shoulder so you know somebody had asked me you know. Are you surprised about this and yeah surprised at the timing but i really thought that in the long term if this ever happened again he may not he may say okay. You know the hell with this. You know it's just not worth it and you know he's. He's <hes> newly married. He's got a child on the way i believe in november <hes> <hes> so you know he's got other things to on his plate and i i just <hes> <hes> i give him credit. You know look i as as a as a somebody who consume sports writes about sports. <hes> you know i love watching him play he he was <hes> you know one of the top i players in the league and i think he had the chance to be an m._v._p. Sometime in the next two or three years if you could've stayed healthy and certainly this offense of line you had every reason to believe things. We're going to get a lot better but at the same time dan you. I'm sure you saw some of the press conference. He's exhausted. He is so oh completely emotionally exhausted. I don't know if it rises to the level of wanna. Go you know a clinical type of depression or what have you but he is is really tired and down and this process has taken so much out of him. I just don't know what's left for football or anything else for that batter. What's your reaction to the national. Media's reaction to the indianapolis fans reaction at the game would andrew luck announced his retirement process all those things you know. I don't blame the fans be because first of all there was a lot left laugh up and it was a preseason game <hes> the people who stuck around to the end to end. We're probably people who have few cocktails because if you're in a preseason in game until the fourth quarter chances. Are you know you have been drinking apple juice and i just think they were confused. <hes> they felt betrayed. I don't i i wrote my phone that it was the wrong the wrong response but at the same time i completely understand and it's not an indianapolis thing. It's not boston's in chicago thing. I just think that you know they've been sort of they feel like they've been toyed with now for the last two three years years with all this stuff and i just think they were it was a sense of betrayal a sense of complete confusion and i would bet you that if you took a hundred for those people who are doing and had them watch his press conference afterwards i would bet you a good percentage of them would wish that they had not booed. There was a real reason for what happened. A real thought thought that went into this whole thing with this jacoby bruce set will be what average i think he's he's an easy. They think he's a top twenty quarterback. Okay now that would that mean seven and nine eight six and ten you know. They have a pretty good team around him. I don't know how good he is. I don't think we can reaching conclusions based on what he did two years ago when he you know rolled into town literally had to learn the entire offense in the fly never understood the the playbook completely the <hes> ha was surrounded by terrible team that ultimately went for twelve coaching staff wasn't good this time. He's gotta really be coaching staff. Great offensive wind good <hes> people on the outside. He's got an approved defense so they ought to be competitive. I don't know if they're a playoff team with andrew. Luck not only were are. They a playoff team. I thought they were a super bowl contenders so i think they move on and <hes> don't make the decision at the end of the year. Did they move forward with jacoby perset or <hes> <hes> do they <hes> tank for two good stuff bob good to check in with you. Hope you're doing well and good luck with the athletic. Okay thanks so much. Thank take bob kravitz senior staff reporter for the athletic. We'll take a break play. 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The ultimate shave they've starters set has everything you need for an amazing shave after that restock box ships regularly sized products at regular prices. Get yours at dollarshaveclub dot com slash patrick what's poll question. We're gonna go with mclovin well. I started out with the one that we were tweeted. At the most will andrew luck return and sixty four percent said yes right now. I don't know so what that means but there's a lot of reaction. A lot of people ask you what you think of <hes> people booing which kravitz has talked. I understand it. I get it you know. It's a local that your team. That guy walked out on you. The seasons ready to start. I get that reaction. I i don't agree with with it from the outside looking in but if i'm there and that's my team and i've invested in that team and we have a chance to be really good. We finally got an offensive offensive line. We got wide receivers. We got a defense now. And how dare you do that to me. I understand that selfish approach to this. I do yeah mclovin well. What if it was boston or philadelphia or new york. Would we be less forgiving those fans because they have a history of more indianapolis. Fans are generally considered nice probably probably but some other fan base has a history of being overboard on doing but i understand all of these reactions here where if if i was a local radio host news today in indianapolis i would i would be angry. I would be upset. I'd be disappointed because he's leaving your team. He's walking out on on your team now wait. Are you disappointed in general. Are you mad at andrew lock. 'em i know if your local fan slash mad the hammer just mad at the whole situation. I think you're mad at andrew luck. I guess you're mad at the end result here that you know hey. Why did you sign the contract. Extent g love football. I mean people questioning if he loves football i. I don't know if he loves football. I've said this about brooks kepco the golfer. I don't know if he loves golf. I think he's really good at golf. There are guys who love golf. They consume it but then there. There's a lot of guys in sports. They're really good at something. That doesn't mean that they love it. They're just really good at it. An andrew luck struck me. Is that kind of guy. I i'm good at this but i have other interests and you know instead of keeping the pebble in his shoe and walking around on it and being uncomfortable he just said i'll do the logical thing thing. I'm gonna take my shoe off. Take this pebble football's causing this. Why would he retire and then go. Let me go back to what made me retire in the first place yeah. It's like getting food poisoning at a restaurant for years in a row and then you take a year off from going to that restaurant you drive by the same chef saint menu. Let's go back there and try it out of the shot. I'll give it another shot here feeling a little better. We'll in alabama joining us. Will what's on your mind today. Six foot one forty right <hes> <hes> so my first reaction to anger loker tiring hiring was sort of thinking about his dad and the x._f._l. And when you think about the timing in his injury like he knew that he couldn't play playoff season in the n._f._l. And then go play season an x._s._l. We also as you said that he thinks differently and acts differently differently and i don't think that there's a high probability of this happening. But how would your opinion change and do you think it's a possibility that will will and andrew luck going to play in the x._f._l. You co host this show for a house. That sounds good to me all right. Thank you don't book your your flight jordan in new york jordan. What do you have for me. It was gone down and <hes> real quick as a culture. You know i'm living in new york. I live right outside of buffalo so it's hard sometimes but <hes> you know the way you look at this. I think is yours. You said earlier this guys who play football and there's guys who plays football the the idea. Is that even if he's good at this. I mean all his life since he was a child dreamed of being a super bowl winning <hes> quarterback. I don't think that it's a good approach. Look at it the way you're looking at it because i don't think it's fair to say kid who has had that that dream for so long didn't just as much as everybody else that gets the n._f._l. Does i mean you could see in his face in a press conference you just you knew it was like that. You know he's had that you for so long. I also think that it's not that uncommon. I mean it's surprising they retired right away but it's not surprising in the millennial generation is as a millennial look at all the guys looking for these big contracts. It's like the n._f._l. Is changing in a way that good or bad. I don't i have a very neutral opinion on <hes>. You know. This is not uncommon. Even though it's uncommon you know what i mean. It's there's a lot of weird things going on in the n._f._l. Like this and he just you know you have a deploying on trying to make jordan. Thanks for the phone call when i say that there are certain guys who are football guy j._j. Watt should not be playing football anymore. Healthwise should not everything he's gone through but he's a football guy and i'm not questioning toughness sir anything it it's andrew lock dead what you would think a- sane person would do and just say you know what i don't wanna go through this anymore. I've had all these is injuries. I don't want to do this but we look at this and go come on toughen up your football player. Guy get out there. What's wrong with you. That's the tradition. That's what we that's what we grew up with but how many of you have been around these n._f._l. Players former n._f._l. Players and you see what their daily life is like. These guys have had so many injuries and they just look for quality like you. Don't see it anymore. Because they're a commodity you moved on you moved on you couldn't wait. A payton got the bump shoulder all we got andrew lock. Oh see you peyton. Ill that's how we view this. They're interchangeable shabazz parts here and it doesn't mean andrew. Luck didn't love football. I just think there are certain guys who are football players who continue to play and they shouldn't andrew luck said i'm not going to do it. I don't understand it when i'm looking at this outside looking in. I don't understand ended because i would be one of those guys would say you know what i'm going out and i'm going to continue to play when andrew lucked decision. He lives with it. You you wanna call him a quitter. Whatever you know it's we'll move on from this store. Well not yeah. Football season is around on the corner and podcast one sports net the best shows to help you build the best fantasy team in the league breakdown all the latest n._f._l. 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 Andrew Luck Retires, Lakers sign Dwight, DBook Crying in Pickup & World Series Predictions

Real_Sports: A Snapchat Sports Pod

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Andrew Luck Retires, Lakers sign Dwight, DBook Crying in Pickup & World Series Predictions

"Welcome to episode twenty three of the real sports podcast snapchat sports pod on this episode episode. We're talking andrew locks retirement just straight out the blow boogie cousins <hes> injury and dwight howard replacing him and some m._l._b. playoff prediction so let's get it right. Football offers a cut ballgame the real sports fan. I'm i'm your host jackson under supports on snap chat account big news coming soon on the snap and the pod but until we get there. We're just gonna keep view in the dark meat. Today is my co host as always a ban on abel's going on brother. What's up eight episodes twenty three. I i was trying to think of the number twenty. Three's just brainstorming throughout the day. I couldn't think of many you have any. I really don't have many besides like obviously. My instagram is jay settlements twenty three hours when he third <hes>. I don't really have any we'll have to think about as lou williams might work twenty three i. I think you're right <hes>. I'm trying to think of some other goods funny. If it comes us it comes us that the end <hes> but i <hes> let's just this get into where where were you in news game down. Where was i all right here. Here's a funny story so <hes> i was working and for those who don't know what i do. I i make an set <hes> gambling odds in prices for different from bats of all sports whatever so when the news broke what standard procedure is in my office to do is to pull down every bet that has andrew lock the colts <unk> anything related to the colts t. y. Hilton bats blah blah poem off the site immediately well and this might have been an inside job. I don't now. I gotta do some research into who's working in my building but it's like ten forty five last night in the fire alarm goes off so me and a few of my buddies that i work with yes we had to evacuate the building and i swear jack where outside for thirty seconds and all star buzzing and there's literally nothing we can do. We can't can't go in the building. Andrew walker just retired. I was like i follow so many like parody. Adam schefter accounts comedy accounts that like just keep me humble from here from every now and then like if i see something and i believe it. I just got to take a step back and question myself so that's what i thought this was immediately. He like this was a joke. Andrew lock wasn't retiring and behold. I mean this was absolutely wild. There's no other way to put it. I mean i just got for taxes like andrew lock w t s and one of them was may right yeah. I was just kinda like like what do you mean. He tore tors. May or something like i was going to be out for like the season because of the season for sure. Will oh definitely be out for the season <hes> but let's let's just talk about the issue at hand which is he gets booed coming off the field so i'm curious 'cause. I'm going to have a little rant on it but if you wanna get your two cents in on what we're thoughts were on the boeing on his decision on the whole thing <unk> overall overall. I well the buring first off. There's no other way around. It's fucked up like the guy retired for legitimate reasons. <hes> i understand understand as a family. That's your first reaction like like when the for instance when the raptors fans booed the katie injury in game six they they weren't or they cheered are sorry so it was a similar situation except ones for the opponent and once for your own guy. It's a similar situation. The gut instinct as a human being is just to react does a fan and i totally understand that <hes> that doesn't make it right but like i don't know it's definitely messed up that they booed but in the same aim breath <hes> did andrew luck do much for the colts it out in his six years when he was on the field so administered interesting that when he was on the field he had the third most of the second passing touchdowns in his first six n._f._l. Seasons he had the third most passing yards in n._f._l. N._f._l. history throughout his first six chelsea's <unk> the guy's biggest accomplishment was a cincinnati bengals wildcard playoff win of now his biggest biggest one was the twenty eight point comeback against the chiefs which is an epic comeback he never will he went to the a._f._c. Championship against the patriots deflate deflate gate game so essentially he was short of a civil by game and a lotta people wanna put it on the g._m. Because he never they drafted three offensive offensive lineman <hes> before the seven ounce or one through six while while he was there and all three were absolutely horrible until right but that's that's what makes the timing of this so weird it is like they finally have one of the top offense of lines and football if not the offense. That's hurting again so that i know that but they finally have that they have very good defense. They have a competent jama competent coach like this was the year where like andrew lock in the culture going forward that are very trendy be pick and it's just like it's my modeling at this time but the one thing that i wanna point out is gronk retired this offseason right right. Do we hear a single word about the fact that gronk was retiring and how it was unfair. Fair to the organization on my only <unk> ahead is the only counters that there's a few weeks before the season. I get it like i guess that is the difference in the two but like what what's the difference between him and gronk visitor difference between him and gronk in this situation not the impact on like for the organization but the fact that locks came out of the clear blue sky whereas there's been reports of gronk mulling retirement for like a few seasons now because of all these back injuries i get it. They've had the same injuries but that's like the the true difference is that patriots fans not only do they have nothing to be sad about because all all they do is win but they knew that this was kind of inevitable whereas colts fans that makes the different whereas colts fans had this this this whole like they could go to the super bowl this year like finally lock was gonna do peyton did for them and live up to it and that that's really it was just the element of surprise like back. If this had been a story for the past few months like the culture awaiting andrew walks decision than it wouldn't have happened the way it did so i get the fans booing booing him because it's just like you're saying i i don't agree with it but i understand why i don't agree with that either but the idiots online who had time time to actually take it in think about it and then what out tweets reports and stuff digging on andrew lock is one of the craziest things things i've ever said i bought this is mental and physical health. We're talking about is isn't so it's not like he broke his winger this mental and physical health that he's putting at risk for the rest of his life. He just had a kid. He has a happy wife. He said the game was not fun for him at all. It was just a rehabbing an injury process. Ah i understand that but i mean it in my opinion it was just the element of surprise. I don't think <unk> actually feel as a whole the way they were kind one of viewed in the public cy last night but like it's crazy like he was supposed to be like the the next coming of peyton for the colts holt and like he was amongst many scouts the highest grade quarterback like coming out of college like maybe ever i mean. I know you have t- law over him. It aiden is painting and then it was him and then it will be larence as like the three you can't miss quarterback so luck was supposed to be like the colts holtz next peyton from all right so payton left the colts in twenty twelve. I believe then lock and peyton side-by-side by side. Stats are pretty wild. <unk> lock has a worse winning percentage sixty one percent to seventy nine a worse completion percentage worse yards for game a worst passer rating andrew lock. I mean payton went to two super bowls. Am wanted granted. I know the defense carried him and he didn't actually he wasn't actually the reason. The the broncos won that super bowl but it's just crazy to think that the colts had this decision and granted at the time. It was the right decision like you have. It was the right decision decision but it's crazy to look back and see the side by side numbers from twenty twelve in peyton is x. amount of years older than andrew lock turning earning thirty or something next month and just pay in numbers just beat him since he left the colts i mean the internet is just a funny place because because our internet's hazing. How old are you twenty three yeah. I thought you should know that but okay twenty three and twenty three <hes> which is nice. Oh by the way i found some athletes <hes> j._r. Smith has worn twenty three before john yet. Jimmy butler arian in foster has worn david freeze that big r._b._i. Devin hester but the internet several be it that i think that is everyone so we're both twenty three locks twenty nine turning thirty so in seven years. If i told you you could be married with the family a kid have a hundred million dollars. Would you question anything so like like if if it's really just a matter of his physical mental health and what he gains from walking right away from a game that he plays for our entertainment obviously he gets compensated amazingly. That's why has one hundred million dollars but it's just a game at the end of the day and you know really for our entertainment. There's obviously real life jobs to this and it really does impact the economy but to walk away from the game. That's gonna make you healthier make you happier. You'll have one hundred mil in the bank and in a family to live your life and not have any pete's not p._t._s._d. But <hes> c._t._e. Any aching injury like it's it's almost a no brainer. The fact that he would even even consider playing on isn't is done over the past couple of years so you left a ton of money on the table but it's <unk>. You saw the press conference press conference. This was genuine. He was the most beat up about this and he took it like a champ because he had a plan. His plan was the lettuce teammates now. Let the organization let us go now and then they were going to let the public is going to forget clock today right and then and then it's someone else's job in journalism they find out the tip so today they break the story and what did luck do. He didn't hide itsel today. He he acknowledged everything. He spoke extremely transparently extremely open. You did like a true through proud and it's a great great way of handling it so i'm off. There's one more thing so you know. I'm a big conspiracy atheist right yeah we note x._f._l. Okay so let's just tell the listeners a little digging on the internet and i just don't happen to find out that andrew father oliver lock is the commissioner of the x._f._l. Now the x._f._l. Is they just came out with teams. I'm personally the houston roughnecks fan jack do the vipers tampa bay vipers. I hated that logo by the way i'm a big rough rough rough neck fan but anyway this league is just coming out. They have one quarterback committed right now oliver lock his father is the commissioner you're telling me oliver locks not trying to top vince mcmahon to have them throw a sizable amount of money to come have andrew lock play in a less competitive league a game a season that has less games in the n._f._l. Has less turn your body now granted. I believe andrew lock is really gonna stick away because he just seems like a guy that doesn't need football like you just get a travel around and everything just enjoyed within live with a smile on his face but it'd be wrong if i didn't try and spin listen a conspiracy theory so look out for andrew lock ama- houston roughnecks making a push farm ridiculous <hes> anyone anyone has any words about andrew lock for me. Please find me. I wanna talk to some people in the d._m._z. about this if you're to chat about this on fan i'm sure we have some colts fans out there the majority of coats vans who responded semi snap story when i posted the news where they were just more sad than anything anything. I don't think a lot we're angry. I actually didn't see any responses which i was happy about. But you know we obviously saw fan. The colts fan you want me to help you spin this jack. The coach of the coach of the colts <hes> shrank right frank reich also was the offensive coordinator slash q._b. Coach of of the eagles when we won the super bowl so i think he knows what he's doing with backup quarterbacks jacoby so you're you aren't doing your job because there is a fake fire <hes> but i managed to get down to money that coates would win under nine half god. I ended up getting money on the jags over eight at plus one on fifteen so i did something when the division so if if if everything pans out even more giveaways for the real sports venture this all whole lot nothing really made me think like what if the eagles did franchise tag nick foles right now like what are we getting for him from the colts like they're blowing up our phone about him. Yeah absolutely absolutely <unk>. There's a like maybe keenum will actually people are really high on. He's only twenty six. He's been entering by ballot check. He did just as much as essentially jimmy. G. did it one bad season. <unk> like it was a it was his first year in the offense and everything so they're hopeful and i actually think there are good coaches in in india. I'm curious to see how how it goes. I would love to see him succeed as long as it's james. I really don't think the colts are going to be as bad as people think like they have a stout very good young defense and that might just like i said one of the best offensive line football starts up front. It's obviously there's been probably bigger drop offs in the past but when luxton off the field the colts have been the worst team in all football like over the past six years doesn't play they just lose and that's why his impact is going to be missed so so much even more set like when payne left they were horrible and when loch was hurt they were horrible. So <hes> i think is a better replacement than they've had in the past but i don't think they're attacking for t- law i mean that imagined that string of vegas walkout peyton to lock the <unk> would be insanity. It'd be the three most highly touted prospects quarterback of twenty years for the record by the way we were talking about the weapons he has around him. I've told you i was a big fan of marlin mac. Yeah we're getting the marling. Take it back. I really did think he was poised for big year and i think he's a really good running back and we'll definitely discussed discuss that on thursdays. Pod stay tuned for our fantasy pod. I personally have two drafts this week one tomorrow one wednesday so i'm kind of in mock draft graf mode but i'm not as high as i was on marla mac anymore good. You're you locked out then no well while while to immune to do that which is pretty fussy. I've seen those jokes all over twitter already really walk your scares you c. J. simpson's tweet yeah yeah. That was crazy. Oh that was extra funny a bunch of people drafting him like and lamar miller. I saw one guy had lamar unlock ten minutes last year. Last year. I drafted crafted jerick mckinnon. He got hurt twelve hours later <hes> blake griffin anthony davis frank core on number twenty three so that kinda rounds rounds out the loan okay so sliding over the basketball before we talked white and demarcus. Did you know that stephon couriers older than derrick rose. I literally just saw that before. We hit record on this. How crazy that crazy water by like like because when you thing a seventy thing of the young the young guy. I know he's been a new generation. You think of de rose you think about the n._b._a. And that won m._v._p. Season he had you think he's like fifty. People forget when derrick rose m._v._p. He was the youngest m._v._p. And week history by the way when i was looking at the the warriors lineups legion hoops is really good jobs putting out updated lineups. They're going to be nasty and i've said it more out the warriors when clay comes back its staff di lello clay draymond kevon looney willie cauley stein like they're going to be very very good. I saw all the same. I saw the same graphic that you did and they put willie. Collies third enough onto mckinney in their starting five are calling san could start art learning. I don't think you will but they put mckinney because they put on the bench. Which is fair is coming off the but you're telling me that five isn't one of the best in the league league you're crazy. They want defend a lick. Who's gonna stop them on off probably will get into us in the n._b._a.'s not yet jack not yet so your a favorite team the los angeles lake through that's not stop doing this all right wipe your west coast team because apparently every teams on both coasts i oh i just i don't understand why can't be supportive of another team like i need every other team to go with eighty two. That's unreasonable. I'm a basketball fan would would you rather the lakers win the title now. I can't even come up with some foot so here's days a week. Now i get that brought. Let's say the sixers are out. They limit in the second round lake. Show aca joe johns <hes> still the lakers signed dwight because boogie got hurt in practice which is another like like andrew lock boogie. I feel so bad for bogey. It just get married this weekend. So congrats boogieing rat loves. I'll throw another other hilarious turnaround. Remember when bogeyed literally eighteen months ago was most hated playing basketball. He was a cancer to the team getting constantly tact. He couldn't win and then now now he's like everyone loves him there on the side because he's gone for a guy that wanted to do was to get that big contract. It's just like everything collide yeah but you have and then you have his antithesis would just white dwarf was everyone's favorite player in the league. He was the youngest center to lead a team into an n._b._a. Finals and then just since then it's been a constant drop off to now like the funniest tweet was wrong. I figured if it was shams but they tweeted like rajon. Rondo jovanovski had the sign off on these going in different direction. I didn't even know this was is like such a like corey looked upon player in the league. He's just he could constantly the story about him beefing with coaches and front office awesome thinking that his role should be bigger than it is for like people have to understand that the n._b._a. Is just like change. Yeah what i saw was. The most intriguing intriguing thing to me is so the lakers sat down with dwight howard and wanted to say like can they trust and blah blah blah blah blah in his role like <unk> trust him to embrace a plus a role that he's accustomed to it is all day he was obviously one of the best hunters in the league if not the best center in the league and he was treated as such and then obviously he's fallen off. You know it's interesting two years ago in charlotte. He averaged seventeen in thirteen a glass so he was averaging like a high. I am triple-double. I mean sorry double-double seventeen or eighteen in charlotte your and he went to watch some stories. I came out of that yeah yeah but anyway so there was a meeting with the lakers and i see a quote from its james tweeted says. Can we trust you to guard the likes of joel l. embiid. Can we trust you to embrace your all. He must be one damn good lawyer to convince him that he can defend wallaby at this stage in his career. You okay okay whoa whoa he still like if anything i'm worried about his offensive game defensively. I think he could lock him. Be at what what do you think has changed. Apparently he moved his twenty pounds every off season. That's like the new thing with duarte. He's added something to his game and then we never say it. I mean seventeen and thirteen in charlotte. You're plugging in seventeen and thirty or you plug in tannan. I need that feel massively productive for lakers of course it is i just don't think he's in the life of the top one or two in basketball no doubt out that in my mind that he'll be able to guard i just don't. I don't think it'll be a risk score on the likes of m._v._p. Won't be able to guard out in space and on the perimeter out into throw a a small small than than hell throws than the lakers also throw small bone play five what he's presenting which is the reason they signed him. Just give a b.'s not willing to play. The five lakers aren't gonna win the championship. I agree and this is honestly like people shitting on the the lakers for this move just because it's the lakers another big name is the brawn james watt. It's just memes like people on the internet are so obsessed with means and so their whole vision of sports gets like confused. I think is amazing basco fire. He's been pretty average in his career yet. A good rookie season and then they think dwight is like because well the stories i get why but if you look at it on court production it's it's unbelievable in terms of what in comparative so it's it's a massive signing for them. He's he's better than obamacare isn't he. Not one hundred percent and the people what people don't realize like like the people that are trolling the signing or whatever like it's a non-guaranteed deal which it's a low risk very high reward deal for the lakers whereas if they're beefing if him jared dudley you're fooling around in the locker room showers after game and they don't like that they can cut him on the spot without any financial liability dudley dudley the people yeah people vote another another hilarious swing of momentum dudley was like the most hated troll in m._b._a. During the playoffs and then a month months later he signs at the lakers now it's he's. He's the most amazing veteran reader in the league and everyone loves dhadly jared dudley. He's a very from what i've heard from basketball analyst and other players around the league like this guy's like a james jones in phoenix where like he's destined to be a g._m. One day of his knowledge of the game is just that elite where he can contribute to a championship team in that way other than that. He looks like a looney toon. I don't know what he can do physically for them but i think that he's a good locker room presence for them him mm-hmm and wachner caught fooling around he can imagine imagine a taco dwight at lebron soccer speaking to watch. I think lebron missed out on taco tuesday last week. You think everything's okay thank you should send him. A letter. Shooting attacks the yukon checking on them yeah <hes> all right so net positive move for the lakers. Sorry about blogging obviously question caution. Actually what do you think is next for me because to me. I see big three ice cube. Let's stop at sony's eerie asli being honest no do you. Do you think you can come back to the n._b._a. After this tornado <unk> torn quad tourney torn achilles. It's gonna be tough but he was doing it. You know like is this third it injury really the difference. I don't know i mean the quad is not just it's not just any old injury. It's an achilles an a._c._l. Well which one was this. This was an a._c._l. Yeah this was the a._c._l._u. achilles in new orleans on the guavas in the playoffs in cherry. This should be the easiest comeback from so. They said the reason one of the reasons why he tore his a._c._l. Is just because you cannot play on any injured quad and like that's why it was just one one player. Tournus quad was like he knew right who i when you heard the report he was he was fine on a bag quad and that's it just destroys your whole life so i think i think the boogie injury really speaks volumes so why you're seeing a lot of these guys de commit from team u._s._a. Like an everton supporter george injury back for team u._s._a. A few years ago like these guys are putting so much wear and tear on their body. There's many more of you. Would you say if you're gone deep in the playoffs. There's not there's not really an exactly. There's no offseason offseason so they're no reason there's no reason these guys wanna play <hes> eleven for team u._s._a. For all this stuff speaking of team u._s._a. We talked to that a couple of pods you. You said you weren't worried. I said i was we lost <hes> trouble for the trouble in paradise my friend trouble in paradise. I looked at the roster. I mean it's obviously solid but it's a lot of ice. Oh ball you know just like just guys who who have no chemistry. These use australian teams the spain server. They've all been playing together for years and the u._s._a. Team it's it's a rotating door. Obviously our talent has always been levels above a loss australia for the first time time ever. They haven't looked relatively good at all. They lost the g. league. Whatever super team where they'd played now he finally worried like i think i think i i was a little just like over the top about team u._s._a. That we shouldn't worry. I do think they'll still win. Gold <hes>. Maybe it won't be as easy z. I just think that guard play in international players. The most important i think campbell will really be the difference for them. You can but really this is amazing guy. So i aloft kemba. I love i stayed home sick back in like middle school. Whatever i look in the big east tournament was on. I saw the step back against pitt and i found love yeah and i love him and then carry them to the tournament and he's you know he's he was a winner in college but he's just never done anything in the n._b._a. So here's his chance the bench finally institution yeah the the best town if he's not superb doesn't lead them to a gold than we can officially move the arm fox past beacon guard hard play in the n._b._a. I wanted to ask your opinion on this because i think we talked about it. What do you think about the whole devon booker double team thing and pick up. We promise what are you. Are you team tamer team. Devon booker promise will do m._l._b. We'll do it we can get. What do you think about that. Oh what do i think about that. I think think that a._t. Team or team d. book. I'm jobs because i me i'm. I'm team d. book all the way through like i did not because of not because of the reasons he stated like is this summer like this is pick up. We need to work on our game. Can i get double season but from the eyes of the defender it's pickup if you can't guard your man one on one and pick up and go guard the fat kid with two shirts on like a two shirts on planning in any of those runs john's right you know what i mean like. It's an analogy. Go guard the worst player. If if you can't stick your man like when you check up and you play pick up like it's a war one on one and if you're getting if you're gonna work you're getting worked yeah but that's that's what it is to me. I think it's that the concept of do you wanna. Go work on your game. Take after your little pickup run. Go pick someone up and go one verse them if you wanna play real basketball. I don't care if it's in regular season game playoff game. I'm trying to win a pickup game. I'm trying to stay on the court. Whoa there's three teams of five behind. Say what i wanted to know about. The situation was the score of the game what was going on if someone had win. I don't care if someone has wins or your second doc in <unk> <unk>. I'm trying to win the game and if that's the way to do by the way if devon booker is getting double team such an advantage in a pickup game you're running four on three three with unbelievable players like just that's easy i get you don't get to work on your game but that's also a different opportunity work on your game. Passing out doubles driven out doubles scorns goering's through doubles like that's totally an opportunity if him getting doubled in a pickup game is preventing him from working on his game. He's probably we not working that hard on his game outside of pickup games which is the real concern. You're telling me if the scores like three to one and they just checked rockin like joe keam mhm sending a double like come on do the reason i love it so much because it's your keno descending double team kids. It's conway ethical in his part. I love it. I i really think i'm throwing throw at. I like the concept of we're trying to win the game whether it's pick up or whatever that's that's enough n._b._a. It's still ogg riyadh time all right final thing on the pod <hes> we were doing normally will do monday mailbag segment here obviously but we're gonna do questions for the pod or for the fantasy football podcasts which will be on thursday back to look out for those first. Let me just run through a little zero sponsorship from ship station. When you're selling on getting your order can be a real pain. That's why you need to ship station dot com. It's the fastest easiest merciful railway to managing engine ship your orders matter where your son amazon etzion website ship station brings all your orders into one simple interface ship station to get orders out quickly. Save money on shipping causing and keep your customers happy right now blue. Ir listeners can try ship station. I free for sixty days. That's two months when you use code blue. That's b. l. u. E. league. There's absolutely no risk free trial without even entering a credit card info ships h merged with other major carriers including fedex u._p._s. even amazon fulfillment so you can compare and choose the best shipping solution for your customers. Now wonder ship stations the number one choice of online sellers <unk> ship more in less time with the best rates available just visit shifts station dot com click on the mike at the top of the homepage and type in bill that ship station dot com and enter promo code ship station dot com make ship happen abe ape. We'll talk about for like thirty seconds but when i was watching the college football game last night the late one arizona y ship station <unk> at actually came up with just funny speaking college football last night. I predicted twenty six twenty you f- it was twenty four yeah. He's pretty good twenty eight twenty. It was a sloppy hilarious game but it was good to have college football back and then took off for hawaii zone. It did you now. I'd worked to nutty game. Cole mcdonald shootout cold mcdonald who is a quarterback threw three touchdowns in three picks in the first half he then throws a four touchdown down unstuck in half and then two more picks. He gets pulled even though he had three hundred yards in like five todd's the backup crumbs in lead them the two scoring drives hawaii can put the game away. They're down seven fifty seconds left from their own like fifteen. They drive all the way down to thirty ten seconds left. No timeouts cleo tate's scrambling housing. It's tackled it like the one and a half yard line and the time expires. It was like crazy. It's a hell of a game we start on arguable back and we're hype about it <hes> texas so m._l._b. Coming up obviously right now while we're recording it sunday night sunair baseball two best teams while not the two listen. I think the teams in baseball so that'll be my world series prediction. I'll just get to a yankees dodgers. I know lashes have the pitching staff have but look they were. Landers lost like two or three of his last starts when he's been a massive favourite. The yankees are hundred times better than the orioles. The tigers and i know he'll turn up for the playoffs and i'm not scared of ranking. The playoffs and the yankees have been the best team the entire year in the a._l. They just smacked the ball. No matter who's been in the in the lineups they're pitching. It should come around. Maybe it won't but i think they actually have the firepower to do it and then when i look at the the dodgers lineup is not that good pitching a topic media dude. No i'm telling you it's really good but it's not like the braves have a better lineup than that and they have the best often like the end of this lineup is taylor beatty barnes and then the pitcher like the top five a jock muncie turner bellinger in seger's nasty. I just don't think that a._j. Paul it's not in the lineup tonight either yeah but i'm i'm saying like it's nothing crazy like the yankees have so i think the yankees out but i do think the dodgers get out and out because they're just levels above love every other team everyone. It seems like it's dodgers than the braves are like a decent chunk below and then it's just hilarious crap shoot for the next few spots what's right. I agree. I think the dodgers are coming out of the n._f._l. On even though i think that the braves might have the better lineup throughout to me when i look at golf baseball and what matters october it's obviously pitching and the bullpen and though the the braves did add and wendy as who is unbelievable in fact he never gives up runs whatsoever <hes> they have the n._l. Rookie of the year most likely mike saroka who is a stud so so far ten in two with a two yard. I just think that the experience like you're throwing a rookie out there in game one or two of an evans l. c. s. like like i granted. That kershaw is any better in that situation. He's a huge veteran but i'm gonna take the experience of the dodgers being that this will be their third third or fourth straight pettit. This'll be bird yeah anyway so i get the dodgers coming out of the n._f._l. Even though i i do love the braves lineup throughout a kuna is just he is eshel man like he's doing stuff. That travels at this young age with thorin basis in the home runs yeah and added the a._l. I'm steering away from the yankees for the exact reason you said the pitching staff <hes> i think the astros had the lineup to compete with the yankees. <hes> have the firepower. Obviously it's not as much firepower as the yankees because an all season addition for the yankees. He's like a debatable m._v._p. Catinat d._j. Mayo but the the the houston astros still have great bats and whether or not they're performing. I mean throughout this entire. Year consistently isn't much of a concern for me because i think that they know it. Matters come october and they can flip the switch out at any given moment and then just just look at the staff in the three headed monster of your thrown out garrett cole <unk> overlander and greg easy for three games like do that three games. That might be seven seven innings. No earned runs yeah i just i don't think ranki you know we talk about. Oh kershaw being not that great in the playoffs. I think grind use. He's also got that against them. What he's got that that playoff thing kershaw all has no so you know. The free seven room runs plus. You have to think that the yankees have good chance of getting the <hes> getting heading home field. I really feel snow survey yet homefield and then they can get a win off overlander under coal and then all they gotta do be cranky or like a wave miley in houston and then take care of business again at home seems very favorable arrays. Do not scare me me. If i'm the yankees the twins nor the indians donating like even i mean in the indian team baseball for longtime ah they dropped six of their last time the twins now have three game or three and a half gamely lost. Jose ramirez says today's <unk> broken hand. Oh wow let's you big nats back up there though you do have a good lineup <hes> but i just all right gene. That's why they're the sneaky team in the n._f._l. Because you chirs earn a good strasbourg start you can win anywhere it. Oh forget about patrick corbett. Who's it's been a star yeah. They might have the best come playoff time they could sneakily if i would love the dodgers nafta that would be a really fun sear here. I think i'd rather see dodgers brave for the firepower ups. I'm saying i first round l. D. or your phillies are terrorists right. I'm not i think we'll the most phillies thing ever was taken to hard-fought wins in boston a two game sweep and then bryce decides. It's a it's a good time to have a child. I don't know who told him he could do that. So he went on paternity leave and then we drew drop to three to the marlins. I think we're to three out. It allowed card. <hes> the team has no business being in the playoffs. If we're going into washington scherzer i mean we'll throw. Chances are or noel do what he did today. Play a great game. He won't get the run support and we'll lose <hes> absurd ride and we still for it feels like one of those things where you're you almost just want the season to be done because you know even if you get in the playoffs y'all not sake and like you have no chance hundred percent lasting for we got. Did you see what happened. <hes> the red sox royals game. Oh you have a fifteen minute game may had yeah. This is one of my favorite things that has happened in sports in the past. The royals were playing my oriels and the red sox were home. They'd they'd delayed suspending a game top ten. I wanna say one out on august seven so they come back two weeks later. No now is in august. There is a royals red sox game. Yeah yeah pretty sure it was in july. I'm going to fact check you. After this is august seventh i know i know you're of it. I haven't you on the royals red sox gave that they just finished. Yes that was from july from august. I'm looking up right now. Best part about podcasts and that this is on like it's confirmed on august seventh. You were saying so who's right so i i just need you say i was right on the islands misinformed. You're got your misinformed. Anyways game august seventh get suspended comeback top tan inside one out and the royals get out in the top and the red sox twin fans. Actually i assume is free admission because there are only like a couple of thousand fans there but twelve minutes the game goes and then the royals had to fly. They had to go a from baltimore to boston played twelve minutes and then flied to. I believe <hes> cleveland. I mean that's mainly baseball's looking to speed up the game. Just play offs and i love rate. They fit like six games in a one point two winning games. I real source. Thank you guys for listening to episode twenty three eight. You didn't hazard. You didn't have their number twenty three. Since when does your twenty three from madrid <hes> you were ten is awkward according to google. I'm still looking at twenty three eden hazard but if not worse on ilyasova also were twenty three. I feel like we could be forgetting something something. I don't know we'll put it on ours pod on baby. I'm sure if you guys think of anything <hes> but thank you for listening android fantasy pod coming on thursdays awesome. Make sure to get your questions in tomorrow. You're listening to the pod and then you've made it this far which we appreciate like those die hard listeners. You guys through truly our favorite g._m. Abe so we're gonna know you're listening to a lesser instagram abe underscore grant off g. r. uh-huh f f g._m. Abe your fantasy questions. I wanna see how many guys made it this far and if you live alone you guys thank you guys for listening fantasy coming thursday as always thank you <hes> from jack and we'll talk to you soon uh-huh <music>.

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Hour 3 - Dan Dakich (08-26-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 3 - Dan Dakich (08-26-19)

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With everything from video doorbells indoor and outdoor cameras smart locks and lights all controlled from the a._d. App or the sound of your voice you could even stay connected to your family and friends with the a._d._t. Go app including location sharing driving activity alerts and an emergency westbound westbound that's a._d._t. Real production brought to you by a._d._t. Broadcasting of the mercedes men k. hello world. I'm back. This is dan patrick actress final hour on this monday dan dan dan patrick show. We'll talk to dan dockage the former college basketball coach former college basketball player now all he's a radio host in indianapolis and he had some shots that he took at andrew lock. Just a little sampling dockage will join us coming up a little bit. He said that gillibrand and most scouts questioned andrew luck commitment when he was drafted. I told you this for years. It goes on to you say that <hes> andrew luck has a freaking ankle and freaking shoulder. Just tell us. I made a ton of money and i love this sport. Luck is full of bleep and always has been. Let me see what else those are. The those are some of the inflammatory tweets there and and let's have docket john and just because i have somebody on doesn't mean i agree with them. I just thought in it's usually the opposite there but i like giving a different opinions there and instead of <hes> let me just criticize him it same with doug gottlieb. You know doug. I think was trying to be funny when he said you know. This is an paraphrasing. Basically this is so millennial of andrew lock to walk away the way he did and i think doug was just trying to be funny but man people were just they unloaded on on well dockage little bit but more gottlieb yesterday and of course they brought up when doug stole a credit card when he was at notre dame. That's the defacto can create a criticism of of got no matter what he says it feels like didn't you steal a credit card when you were notre dame and my point is and i'll make one more time let's move on from the credit card thing with godly if you wanna rip him for what he says fine ripping for what he says not what he did when he was eighteen or nineteen years of age yancey data how they talk politics people uh-huh and then doug get stick to basketball and then the final line of that is stick to stealing credit cards at one time. God is so stupid you're saying inlet gottlieb's dopey comments stand by themselves just ripped the idiocy of what he said yes. If if you wanna cry size what he's saying he's a moron. Let it stand and don't bring up stuff from the past. I don't need to bring up that. He stole a credit card. Okay you know what there are worse crimes in the world than a mildly insensitive insensitive tweet. I think that we also have to get a little bit of perspective on that. You never have him on again. If you ever have doug gottlieb on again we're never never watching or listening to your show like really because of the andrew lucked joke. I know that's what's your people get there. They're just waiting. Oh screw that guy. Yes mclovin god. It's so short to i'm looking. It's like twelve work. I know i mean there's been like revolutions at a played out on twitter and this is like more important than one blind. I don't get it. I think it was just easy to digest it. Was there was simple you through in millennials therefore millennials are going to want to defend millennials. I guess nobody nobody talks about the millennial thing they are saying. People took this to doug saying that he's soft. That's at all you know which i think he was trying to be funny. Yeah you guys think that we're an this is obvious that we're in a very weird time right now to be a sports fan because now a month from now cam newton plays through concussion and gets back on the field to lead his team to a divisional championship. Let's say yeah. It should be respected for that or should he be. What is he thinking. King are are people are now in the position where you're criticizing someone for being tough for playing through pain. Andrew luck is a hero because he's choosing the other path and taking care of himself is cam newton or whatever player will we still laud players for playing through injury and pain or is that era done no. I think there's there's a majority that will expect you to play through pain. You're getting paid millions of dollars. You know that's what you're going to get here yeah fritzy and now with someone stepping away prematurely from sports going to be called lock second now become some kind of adjective adverb a way to describe someone that may be considered a quitter well the fact that you have a quarterback quarterback doing this. It's it's it's like everything revolves around that position if somebody gets popped for p. i don't care in the n._f._l. I expected i'm nuts. I'm never surprised but if a quarterback gets popped for this popular quarterback that's when i think we'll take note and i i don't begrudge them for taking if you can get away with it in that sport i have no issue with it whatsoever and i'm not hung up on numbers anymore. I understand it's a survival viable sport and if you use them i'm not i go back to the quarterback at the time who i sat next to on a plane said that probably seventy seventy five percent of his teammates were h._g._h. I it's assumed and i you know if somebody's gonna use it like like when a the peyton manning was getting h._g._h. Sent to his house but is supposed to be for his wife okay. Do i believe that no do. I blame <hes> payton for trying to do something that was going to keep his career live. No i don't it's the risk and the reward with all of this and andrew lucked probably just said i'm tired. I'm tired of being hurt now. We expect you to play through the pain now. You have people already speculating on when he'll come back or if you sit down for year. I don't think he's coming back because he would be going back to the very every thing that made him decide that he was going to retire like it's crazy. You're fascinates me the most about all this. What is andrew luck doing today. What did he do yesterday. Did he get some bills paid. Did he organized around the house. You take care of the car that needed oil changing. Does he instantly instantly go to a civilian. Does he turned his paperwork and then that's it. I'm not going to practice. I'm not going to help the team but they bring him back like andrew. Could you be the assistant quarterbacks coach or is he cutting it off like cold turkey fascinated by what andrew does. I don't think you could have them around the team right so that means today. He's at home with his wife because then everybody's it's gonna watch. Let's say he's warming up with kobe. Hey you look healthy. I mean eventually. He's going to be healthy. I just want to know the severity of this this injury because i don't think this just happened. I don't think he went you know hey. What are you gonna do today. Hunt you know i'm gonna i you gotta run errands. I will change health garbage and i'm i'm gonna retire. Okay in that order. Yeah yeah yeah now. I'm gonna go to the game. He'd already told the colts prior to the game and adam schefter congratulations. I mean people were saying well. Why would he tweet that now. During the it this is a doggy dogg businessmen and if it's not him it's going to be glazer rappaport or locking force. You know somebody's going after it he got it probably came from the owner and it just feels like if i'm gonna give you this. How about you tweeted after the game because if you tweet that after the game andrew luck gets out of there and then he could comeback and do a press conference on sunday or today and then maybe it's less inflammatory because he's right there and you're walking he he's literally walking out on us and that's why i think the fans reacted the way they you did yeah paul. It's fascinating to see when someone doesn't know that everyone knows something. Andrew luck runs on the field and you could see him going over to shake hands with the players on the opposing team like he does even though he didn't play and then a staffer probably a p._r. Guy or something from the colts walks was hey dude and gives them. The high sign says everyone knows get you out here and then the camera starts swarming and his whole demeanor changes he knew what was in store because now you've got a got a gather yourself and now you're going to do it. You know these guys. Some of the toughest guys is are the biggest softies when they get in front of the microphone when they say goodbye elway far. You know the guys who played it. Play later hurt played at a high level when you say goodbye and then all of a sudden andrew lock is didn't go to the game that night thinking all right and then after the game i have to announce is my retirement. You kinda gear up for it beyond the club. Five had a lotta practice at it. Did it three times do you. What do you think of the argument that people bring up. Josh rosen saying you don't wanna player as outside interest that old arguments come up a lot. We've got a lot of tweets do you. You know how that old football. I don't care they'll round it or not but there is an idea the n._f._l. Teams don't want well rounded guys. Yeah i mean i appreciate it. Andrew luck look having a book club and ricky williams love and pot but i just want you to play football. I'm paying you to play football i don't need to. We know that you're taking ballet or anything like that. Maybe they i. I would think some team say well. This guy is a risk to leave. Early bakes a lot of sense to leave early when you hurt a <hes>. It's totally a callous take but it's a reality. Maybe teams don't want guys who have other options another weird thing about the generation. We're in the era where people leave too early or stay. Stay way longer. We have guys playing their forties because they have new health benefits and exercise and marking all this money and the opposite with luck. We'll get some phone calls here. <hes> robin san antonio rob. Thanks for holding. What's your best and worst the weekend. Dan <hes> six two to ninety. Thanks for taking the call just <hes> winding down my paternity leave at home with my new son but i wanna call just give oh you my best friends. Well real quick okay. <hes> best was my brave sweeping the mets. <hes> hopefully we can get those mets fans to quiet down a little bit now and <hes> worse was just all the vitriol and anger around andrew luck <hes> now. He's just doing what he thinks is best and this would be nice if the colts fans. It just shows all right well. Thank you robin <hes> congratulations on your baby yup. We're all laughing because he really go load up on those mets. Fans like shop mets fans room as well. I think he was waiting for me to say something and i take that i i said ed this prior to vacation. He said the mets are coming back down to earth here folks because look at the schedule and you know they're kind of hanging on your life. I i actually felt bad for the baseball players this weekend wearing those uniforms i did because you know when he looked like the milkman when you're dressed all in white and i i did i felt bad. Just can i have just a little and i'm sure the millennials love those uniforms. I'm sure the younger demo love those uniforms performs. Maybe just a little splash color. That's all you know it's like when you have a gin and tonic and then they say seaton seaton ears perk da <hes> you know you put like lime in there just a little twist at just. Give me a little color splash. That's all because i'm watching the yankees the dodgers i'm going you have to the greatest uniforms in the history of sports and i got you guys out. There and yoga pants like what what the hell is this just a little splash splash of color and you couldn't see your nickname. I couldn't see your jersey. No i you know i was like what are we redoing here in marketing now. Are we selling these jerseys now. I'm assuming guessing hey here's a white on white on white jersey. Who's in. Here's a black on black jersey. Who's all in by the way get powerful in in-car wifi a._t. And t. today connect your new mercedes with wi fi road trips or more fun. Everyone can share in car. Wi fi unlimited data from eighteen t. It starts at twenty dollars a month stream browse and share from the open road multiple devices see the plan details at a._t. And t. dot com slash connected connected car happy to say proud to say we will be starting in the philadelphia market tomorrow fox sports radio one zero two point five the gambler a make sure you check out three o'clock today the new afternoon show with sean brace and tomorrow morning at nine. The dan patrick show so back on the air in philadelphia philadelphia. Yes paul. I got an idea boss. We're going to spend the whole hour. Debating the cheese steaks filled. No one's ever done that. No it's not a tired <hes> glue shave the non affiliate scene still getting grief over in and out burger. Aren't you well yeah. I mean so overrated is in los angeles in somebody's. He's yelling at him anytime. There's some type of list about like best burger best fast food or something if in and out is anywhere near the top. I get five thousand tweet tweet. 'cause i remember when seeking goes yeah overrated. I said yeah. I probably wouldn't say that on the air again. Why not yes mclovin. I new poll most overrated city food cliche throwing salmon pike market in seattle the establishing shot of every game player there by nobody in philly philly cares about that cheese steak debate zero percent <hes> cheesecakes with philadelphia <hes> i dunno in and out burgers l._a. What are some other dish pizza in chicago and whenever there's like a bears game on monday football they take the peace and in the cheese is stringing down and you're donald yeah yeah yeah chilly chilly and cincinnati mattie goldstar and skyline like soup but okay <hes> new york deli gotta show a big corned beef sandwich somewhere in the handover gallium and other game is being plate forty miles away jersey wings in buffalo clam chowder in boston or some sort of fish. Did you guys realize at the time that buffalo oh wings were from. You know that originated in buffalo. You didn't think of buffalo meat at any juncture. Did you know no but i thought that you know were they saying. It was buffalo. Hello sauce like there was some kind of sauce when this is you know years and years and years ago but you know originally i think the anchor bar in buffalo it'd be great to go to the anchor occur bar for the first and only time of your life in order like a grilled chicken sandwich and don't get the wings. I'm wanting to come here forever in the waiters. Give it to me and i'll have <hes> <hes> some famous for here. I i actually went to the anchor bar in buffalo wings good yeah but he we know they're they're. They're very good but you know there's other wings then yeah yeah yeah. I'm not oughta. Hooters wings guy. It's you don't go there for the wings. Well i did go and then i realized that i i'm not here for the wings. I'm here for the camaraderie. The friendship yeah friendship of course we go to buffalo or we went to let me see not the time i took my kids when we went to remember when my wife unplugged the cable and because she said the kids had to get ready to get back to school and it's a saturday and she's out of town and i took all four my kids and they're probably under eight and we went to <hes> hooters and i remember my son. He really fell in love with the color orange that really did and then i told all of them. You can't tell mom i took you you too hooters and then my youngest said we're not supposed to tell you that we went to hooters and my wife goes. Where's your where's your dad apple. I think it's really dangerous to travel avenue for food and get your expectations too high because this going to bother you but when i went to visit my sister at my in vallejo all these guys like skyline chili chili. Dogs is a gold star. The other one is popular new. I went ahead and this is average like what will wet and they were gonna punch me in the face and i just thought they were fine chili dogs but it was like the end of all chilidog when we walked in your best year ever gonna have they oversold it. You know i'm going in a couple of months. Actually i'm taking my son to the broncos. Bills game late november and i was gonna ask you guys is there. You know i'm gonna get buffalo wings within bad enough. There's deplace three to go to applebees in buffalo a nice thing wings diner or something like that the go-to go to anchor plus the one yeah i mean i went to this place in in paris a harry's new york i think they invented the bloody mary and they serve like an ungodly number of bloody marys people but they they moved the bar from new york back to paris just like didn't they move the brooklyn bridge or the bridge of to wherever arizona didn't didn't somebody by the lake havasu or something like that like london bridge and london bridge in lake havasu yeah something like that but yeah i in so i was like all right. Give it a shot here. I can't wait the clips of todd on social media jumping through tables with all the bills mafia you gotta do that the chugging ears and jumping pink through flaming yeah they they they jump on tables off buildings and trees and trucks and the doubletree watching the game and we're trying to figure out is it okay these days to wear the visiting team jersey without getting jumped during that we went to a broncos ravens game in baltimore and we decided just to wear regular clothes but there are a lot of people in bronco gear. Can we wear our broncos stuff in buffalo <hes> how crazy they get in upstate new york. Yeah my advice to you you. I'd i'd go neutral. I go neutral. What about just like broncos hat not the whole jersey zoo baz what pants or whatever when we what's the what's the difference prince. I mean if you've got a bronco hat on. I guess they're going yeah but assume you some people get obnoxious. You totally dressed up head to toe in the opposing team's calls where you're like a asking for something i would go neutral fire you yes mclovin. You could ask our friends on the new philly affiliate. You should be very careful at the lake very careful about what you wear in philly i'd be physically scared around with like a new york giants jersey an ally manning jersey at a film eagles or if you go to any opposing stadium you only need one drunk guy out of the forty thousand fans. You only need one. I raiders and eagles have to be the worst maybe yeah i think those two buffaloes probably scary one two you jets jets are just mad at everybody including greater. I could see that get a little nervous now. I'm being told the bloody. Mary started at the ritz in new york work. Well harry's new york whatever it is in paris they i think they serve twelve thousand bloody. Marys a year did yeah cobb. Salad started the brown derby restaurant in l. A. ever heard that story. <hes> big cops out fan. I wanna know who the first person was who thought man. I got these two chocolate chip cookies and some vanilla ice cream. Why don't i just looked at me and then maybe i'll roll them extra chocolate chips and then look now. I have a chip which the two thought of that because that person was brilliant at issue but a statue that guy yeah that must have been edison or some famous jonas salk. That's huge. There has to be some foods where you go. How did they do that. Where you go you know about these wings and we put this sauce on them and then we put blue cheese and celery or even if you're and i'm thinking of a drink how about we do this in. It's a bloody mary. I saw this article years ago. You know lobster is something you aspired ordering expensive on menus back in the day. That was the food that they gave workers in the northeast. It was like the bad food lobsters where that that was the junk the crustacean that they would give the workers on boats and in in the northeast north east and then lobster somehow made a huge jump and became legit and expensive. We'll take a break. <hes> phone calls coming up and dan dockage will join us and he certainly had some things to say over the weekend about andrew luck walking out on the colts guaranteed to upset. Somebody dockage will join us coming up right after this. It's twenty two after the hour. This is the dan patrick show every car comes with its share stories right that ding and your bumper when you nervously picked up a first date or maybe the luxury package you got after a a big promotion. 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I think there's only one more dollar beer night with <hes> phoenix rising and i'm pretty sure it sometime in october so they could close out the season season going fifteen in a nights that they sell beer for one dollar. It's arguably the best thing happening sports right now name a better storyline hallway all hang up and listen apple on dollar beard night. Phoenix rising should have blackout uniform night to match what's going on there. That's not good. It's not encourage. Let's not god delivers out <hes>. I know it's funny. It took me a minute to get that house. Like what do you mean yeah. That's like a drunk thing yeah all elite wrestling presents all out featuring the inaugural world championship campionships match here you got the hangman adam hangman page versus chris jericho throughout the records when they get to jericho do new york stream this pay per view event on be our live. This saturday at eight pm in eastern. Is dan dockage there with us <hes> he he is the host of the dan show on w. f. n. I in indianapolis e._s._p._n. College basketball analyst in each joins us on the program. How was your weekend. Dan dan six five to fifty. I'm getting much. I don unbelievably. Good weekend went to a wedding of my good friend kevin custody. It was the best wedding writing i ever had the right in the middle of the wedding bloom. Andrew luck retires and that made it even better. It was a fantastic weekend okay. What was your opinion union on andrew luck prior to this announcement on saturday <hes> he was never gonna be the guy he was great quarterback you wanted when you were down fourteen eighteen and i said this all the time i mean i scouts. Tell me whatever <hes> he he was great but he's the guy that got you down for team with the dump pass as he always said he always admitted uh he always owned up to it was never going to be the guy was never going to be what peyton or <hes> drew brees or those guys you know peyton used to win a guy <hes> got drafted paid would have on the field throwing passes summertime at the butler bowl here or at high school. Pay guys running receiver routes all summer. I wasn't going to be andrew luck and he was never going to be the guy i mean. He was really never gonna be and i looked people argue with me. I had one of your guys. <hes> jason mcintyre <music> often me because i said ultimately i'd rather have carson wentz <hes> than than andrew luck because look when you're close and you see it you see these things held onto the ball too long got that corrected once <hes> <hes> once right came in last week may really bad decisions early in the game great kit great guy tough guy i played through a lot of stuff <hes> but it wasn't ever going to be what like all you do is watch with and he was never going to be with the national media made him out to be but your reaction to him walking away at this age. Are you questioning his love for the sport his toughness softness <hes> wouldn't ever question his toughness. I did say that and and this is just me dan. I mean this may not be you. This may not be the twitter mob but i grew up with a family of teachers. My dad worked as an ironworker in the summer after being a teacher cops. I just me personally not you don't expect that. I never wanna hear athletes. It's professional athletes being paid millions to play sport that we all love. I never want to hear him. Talk about being tired i didn't i never talked about being tired when i played in coach for bob knight no matter how big a jackass he was <hes> it's just me i mean it doesn't mean it's everybody now. I would never question andrew lucked toughness. I would never question andrew luck walking away. Hey you wanna walk away way. God bless you but there are two sides. Dan and i think it's fair to say you know the fancy were sold to bill of goods by andrew luck and the colts and this has been ongoing for years years they have always misled the public both andrew all we can go by what they tell us. What role does hey look. I'm ready to go. He said i can't i love this team. This is after two thousand eighteen season. I love this team. I love this group of guys all right. We take you at your word for that so people buy season tickets. Hey when he gets hurt initially and training camp if there was a game tonight. I'm playing three days ago frank reich. He's progressing well andrew luck. If i if the game monday i put sri lanka. There's two sides everything like i would never begrudge a guy in football getting out with his health ever good for hand like what don't we we know here dan the it. It feels like a lot and there's a lot. How did he hurt his shoulder initiative. How did he how did he get this ankle injury. They never say there has been a disconnect in this city between the colts p._r. And colts fan and everybody knows i don't expect national people expect national people come at me and re me but local people know there has been lying zimmer say seventeen went out and said look. We'll be ready for the first game yeah. He looks out the entire. You're damn there has been so much misdirection so much distrust between andrew luck because we can only go by what andrew luck tells us jim are. I say the colts p._r. And the fan base and i look i don't expect people to understand that and i and i get it people. You know i question this like people. Why didn't pay davis get the same. I don't know respect for walking out because of his mental health. He got killed but andrew luck walks and he's a hero. I don't get it. I think if you if you're doing something for your mental state of mind that is awesome absolutely absolutely awesome good for him because in football you know there's better tonight. Dan guys in football. This day and age are trying to get out with their health with a few bucks in the bank right and a brand that they can sell and do whatever they wanna do and good friends you to do that but there are two sides of this and decide from the fans is based simply simply on the mistrust. There's a lot of things things flying about how he hurt himself and seventeen nobody's ever said <hes> you know wasn't in a game well. What did you hear oh. Everybody in town did snowboard. I mean i don't know shoot. I mean everybody you know. I don't know if you have these guys but <hes> you know now. People are saying this. I don't know i'm just telling you. I five emails today. There's two guys that have always sent me information mation and it's always interesting because it's usually right like i'm not i'm not breaking any news here from the from the indianapolis standpoint hell everybody in in town has been told that i don't know if that happens. I would bet it didn't but that's a big deal in here. How do you hurt this lasting. Call my during the game. Why do you think you've got got this reaction from the national media but reaction where they were upset that you were kind of calling out andrew luck in the morning show with e._s._p._n. With trey wingo and mike golic were calling you out yeah it was interesting. I thought i mean i left west virginia. That's what that was. I live west virginia. 'cause the president of west virginia threatened me and my wife. My wife stood up and said mr hardesty. What do you mean by. You'll destroy us and they wanted me to stop uncovering covering all the crap they were doing. I thought that was that was a thing of integrity not that i had to clean out my backyard but that's fine i get it. I think that people are so in in tuned and have always been in tuned to like. Andrew luck is this. I don't know this perfect human being <music> and he's a great dude. What would you ask him today. If you got one question to ask andrew luck shoulder well. You're not going to tell you the truth well. You asked me what i wanna know. I wanna know when he made. This truly made this decision dan because the time line is i'm curious about. Let me let me tell you. There's something here's why i would say well. How'd you hurt your shoulder because everybody in town and everybody nationally and rightfully so is saying. He's tired of rehab. Absolutely i get it man i hey i've had five knee surgeries. Two surgeries on my groin from a torn thing. I mean rehab is terrible. I totally get what he's you're saying but how'd your shoulder and first place. That's because that leads you to everything else. That's what i would ask in terms of. He made the decision. There are a lot of people that feel that this decision the colts knew about longtime ago yeah. There are a lot of people that feel that you know. Let's work through this. We got season ticket holders back in march. 'cause they just came out. After the season how excited he was about this coming year and i watched him from twenty yards twelve thirty thirty yards away first day of training camp. I watched him go through. The drills stood right there if he was hurt then god bless him then all of a sudden. He's hurt well. It's an ankle. No it's a calf. No it's calf. That's yeah no. It's an ankle. No it's jim ears. Say goes on with our guy jeff rickard. It's just no. It's mo- it's a bone. It's a bone then. It's i sit on the air. How about y'all just shut up. How about y'all do bellichik. Does dan yeah and just shut the hell up and say it's a lower leg injury. We'll deal with it and we'll update and that's why they finally did but if you're issue more with the colts then with andrew luck yeah and you look at the whole thing dan look. I don't expect national media to understand. Look i okay. I'm in the media. If mitchell mitchell trubisky walked out on the bears tomorrow i'd go <hes> i wouldn't notice story. I wouldn't know the back story. I wouldn't know the history the history and indianapolis and anybody that's followed this. We'll tell you there is distrust. There has been. I don't wanna say lying but there's been misinformation. Continuous tenuous man the only time the truth comes out if you want the truth is with jimmy say goes on the air pecan. No i yeah he he's the gift that keeps giving me. He goes on here the other day and says it's mo- and every ball of us like what's the hell's mo mo alley cox. What's right and it's a bone. It's not a calf weighed. You're lucky have been telling us all along. This cat so chris ballard who absolutely love has to arrange a press conference and say no. Here's what it is you know and do all this. You know putting out fires the only time coach fans feel like fan. Would you agree with the only time nicole spans feel like they're being honest with us. What you say spouse off. Yes did say you did say i mean this feels like there's a little bit more to your feelings about lock. You says luck has a freaking ankle freaking shoulder. Just tell us. I made a ton of money and i don't love the sport. Luck is full of bleep deep in always has been yes. I agree with. He's he talks. She smiles he talks and he tries to get out of the press conference and and and they've always lied to us they always he has he's telling. I'm ready to play a game. I'll play tomorrow well. That's true thing always done that. You know seven and seventeen. They've always done that. You don't think he'll stay. You think you'll stay. I assume he's on the first plane to like prague or i mean you got married. In prague. You went to the netherlands to get. I assume he'll be there a big soccer game this week somewhere in the premier early. I assume and good for him. Hey i'm telling you right now. If i was twenty nine and i didn't like what i was doing audio josh and that's ex- that's all i like sport. People knew that people scouts very very respected people mhm questioned whether and that's not a bad thing nobody's saying that's a bad thing right. That's not a bad thing if you if if you've got other interest god bless if you can go make millions millions of dollars in and get out with your health at twenty nine. God bless you but me personally. I want to hear about being tired when you're a professional athlete. I just don't you may you may ah well but there are people too. That's fine and they may be tired. I only hear about 'cause. I can't imagine my dad or my uncle's shoot. I don't work fifty two years in the mill. He retired at twenty nine. If you couldn't no question may never complained about it. That's how i was raised and people may not understand that yeah but you would have told him soft though he retired at twenty ninety nine right get back in the mill. If i would have called that uncle i would have been beaten. Dan and i would have been beaten and then bad things would have happened to me. When i was on the ground. I would've called that i get it. I get it and but for us personally in india this the gift that keeps on giving them have fun this afternoon. There dan big dog and i can't thank you enough for having me on. Thank you dan that stand doc. It's hosted the danda could show w. f. n. i. indianapolis of course e._s._p._n. College basketball analyst we'll take a break. We'll come back and we'll get your reaction. Phone calls eight seven seven three d._p. Show i would-i patriot. 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I mean not agree with somebody but i want to understand what they're saying. Thing and i respect dockage from a local perspective is what i wanted. You know the national media everybody you know from ten thousand feet looking down on indianapolis. They're going to tell you exactly what's going on here. I wanted to know what's been going on. What is the feeling there and i think he came off. Well well with what his opinion is. I think he was taking some shots at andrew lock you know he said this is more about the colts than andrew luck but he hasn't been a fan of andrew luck all right that's fine but he's not afraid to put his name on it. Attach it to it. Let's see chris in indianapolis. Joins us hi chris. Would you have for me today. Hey dan. How are you doing good sir. What are you okay so. I was just going back to the whole you know the daca gender and all that and you know maybe one one of the main things is when you know <hes> mister cee got rid of peyton manning. He brought in anderson this guy. This is the new guy this is is our future and it just didn't really turn out the way it was supposed to and plus with the timing of this whole injury was just i didn't know he reached out that tony dungy or peyton but peyton and dungy were at framing camp <hes> ten days prior to this announcement and that kind of goes into affect with when he started thinking about retirement so i did. I didn't know if they got wind of anything or do. How is reacting. I'm you know just. I'll stop listen yeah. I don't know we reached out to tony and he was busy with something family wise <hes> last time but i didn't reach out to him with this but it's a it's a valid point but i don't know even if tony new tony is not going to tell you that it's just not who he is. He's not here to break stories tony in washington. Hey tony they down. You hit your last year. Alaska guest completely stole my thunder. You know ah completely okay because it's the timing of this. It's bad that was a preseason game. Andrew lucked stated. He's been suffering for four years and i agree with him. He's probably been misery but to sit here and in announced two weeks before the season starts. It smells a conspiracy yeah. There's something within their tony. I that's why i said i need to find out more. We will find out more but the timing of it did you just come to this realization and and i think he's been dealing with this. I don't i have a source on it and he was a little vague with it and thought that the cold might have gotten wind end of his his thoughts his disappointment back in april whether that's true. I and i want to be fair the situation here. It feels like there's something else that's been attached to this all along and then you know jim. Irsay doesn't help matters. He'll be there week one one. He told us that a couple of years ago and then he missed the entire season and it's a calf and then it's an ankle and dow just wake up one day and say what i'm retiring because he had told prior to saturday. They knew he had had conversations with his head coach frank reich emotional. You want from what i'm told but there's something there's something else attached to this. It may be if if he's got mental issues. I hope that he gets help and yeah. I have nothing against andrew luck. I don't like the timing of this. I don't like that because we're less than two weeks away and we're playing football and i feeling he knew a while ago. What did you learn on today's program fritzy that you spend your staycationing working on your hot takes and listening to taylor swift's new album your car united yeah yeah i did. I listened to taylor saturday and sunday <hes> oh i didn't get to this sports history quickly to in nineteen thirty nine. 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This is becoming an annual tradition that we had to report a weekend morning podcast last year after the mac trade around this time and and now we have angela labor day weekend last week last year so we're ahead a week ahead of schedule but at the same sort of idea we still have labor day weekend to go who knows who knows what's gonna happen actual labor day weekend so we were just discussing this before we started recording. We were talking about how we heard about this. I received a text message from one one ben glucksman saying andrew tired which i didn't know what to make of it. At first i was like what what do you mean. He retired like from like bowling what i won't even understand this. How did you so i was at a miami hurricanes alumni bar and san francisco actually where i'm where i'm traveling traveling this weekend and the i got the alert on my phone <hes> sportscenter alert and i thought it was fake. I thought it was the kind of thing where someone hacked into the system and gave just an unbelievable bit of news actually reminded me a little bit. This is a very strange thing to say. Do you remember when the n._f._l. Account got hacked by hackers like like three years ago. I don't remember that so they say roger goodell is dead but it was an all like it was in all lower case and it was cruelly really fake like it because it was just such an unbelievable thing to say that it was that was my first. I was like okay someone acted and then as as i continued to see <hes> the news alerts. Obviously it was real. It was <hes> you know. I've been thinking about it a lot for the over the past obviously over the past fourteen hours or whatever it is <hes>. It's getting less shocking. The more i think about it but at first obviously just seemed completely out of left field yeah. I mean if anybody was going to do this. Any franchise quarterback was gonna walk away from ended up n._f._l. At age twenty nine it was going to be andrew. Luck that part of it is not surprising. I completely agree grace. Oh there's a couple of things to unpack within that you know it reminds me. Listen and rob gronkowski just retired at age twenty nine months ago the reason into we really didn't talk enough about andrew luck retiring as a there were never any leaks or anything like that with coon cat as there were with gronkowski. Yeah you know one of the things about their encounter. Your time was they were talking about that. A year. Ahead of time like that was the thing i go. Maybe he's gonna retire. That was sort of floated out there. You're ahead of time is was by the way the calvin johnson thing <hes> that was months in the work so those are the guys who retired <hes> before or around age thirty in the last couple couple of years. Who were you know at at the absolute pinnacle of their game. Patrick willis was awarded more of a surprise but he obviously wasn't a super duper star in the n._f._l. But you when you think about about the andrew lock thing the reason i think it's surprising as a he's a quarterback and those guys are just way more famous than anybody else but beyond that it just seemed like everything was going in the right right direction for the colts <hes> it looks like they were you know fringe super bowl contenders <hes> and with the right breaks could've won a super bowl this year. <hes> it seemed like andrew lock was pretty healthy last year. That's obviously just looking at on the surface. Obviously there were a lot more things going on that. We didn't know about so it just seemed like this news runs counter to everything we've seen about andrew luck over the past what fourteen fifteen months <hes> even though there were those sort of rumors and i'm i'm sorry reports about <hes> the calf injury and the ankle and all that stuff i think people had assumed by now that andrew luck's gonna be ready when it's time to go and now we understand dan. There was much more serious than we thought yeah i mean. I think that that's what makes us so disappointing. When you're thinking about on a football level is that this was supposed to be the year for the colts this was supposed to be the culmination of his comeback of chris bowers rebuild everything else and now we're kind of sitting here being left to wonder what might have been for the two thousand nineteen colts but in a way i think they almost feel that way about andrew luck's career because yeah when you think about what andrew luck was supposed to be and that's what to me is so shocking about this again on the football basis. You know people were saying last night. When i said it was the most shocking retirement i can remember what michael jordan what about barry sanders barry sanders michael jordan's a pretty good. No one dared michael. Jordan won three championships though in a row he wants to m._v._p. Awards paint barry sanders went to ten nobles in a row. I mean those guys were hall of famers. All all time greats when they walked away. Andrew luck is not that andrew luck was supposed to be a generational quarterback prospect. He was supposed to be the best quarterback prospect since peyton manning and now what are we have. We have a few eleven five seasons one forty touchdown year and that's it. I mean that is andrew. Luck career. Andrew luck was hit sixty sixty five more times than any other player in the n._f._l. In his first three seasons danielle number two was matt ryan number through his rantan. I'm gonna talk about that a little bit in a piece. I'm writing today. I don't think you can put any sort of value on how much those hits can hurt him and we're talking to matt hasselbeck about this last last year. Whereas basically you know it's basically four hits over his career ended his career right and so if you're getting hit three hundred fifty two times in the first three years of your career it only takes one two or three of those to absolutely start. You want path where your career is over. I think that most important thing here is an an andrew. Luck clearly was not ready to play in twenty nineteen. I think that's the thing about the booze here that the the booze are strange to me. It's crazy because is if a guy well no but if a guy is retiring he obviously was not going to be ready to go one hundred percent and twenty nineteen. It's not like you're going from a super bowl contender to an absolute loser because you're never going to be a super bowl contender of andrew. Luck is in a position where he was going to retire. That makes sense. I mean i it's he's obviously not who was obviously not going to be ready for week. One he obviously was going to have some growing pains even in october november. Whatever this idea the andrew luck was going to be ready to go in two weeks and then the culture we're gonna march to a._f._c. Contention is a little bit ridiculous but even if he comes back in week three. This team started one and five last year. I legitimately think if you missed only a couple of games that they would be right yeah but you don't. You don't know if that could have happened. He may have known that he wasn't able to play this season. We will never have to we will he will never reveal these things <hes> because we'll never gonna find out because he's never going to have to race to health health and do all the the kinds of things and fell players have to do to get ready so it is literally unknowable but i think even if he came back and we three if you're in a position right now. How were you going to retire because basically injuries have sucked your life out <hes> love of the game out. I think that there's you know it's not like you. Come back in week three and be the andrew lucky was last season. There is a million factors that going go into being a quarterback and the ability to hunker down and study ungodly amounts of tape is one of them and if he sounds like he wasn't prepared to do that than him come back in week. Three is not important. I think if he had played he pro. I mean there's no way to know this. You're right. I mean that's all unknowable but it feels like to me. If he played he would still probably be close to andrew lock. I think this is way more about just not being willing to go through what it takes to get the play every year i mean i can't even imagine would it would be like after rehab an injury every single off season and get yourself ready to play and this is a guy who i think you know i don't wanna read into his comments last night and try to parse them but one of the things stuck out to me when he was talking is that he said i can't live the life that i wanna live and that really hit me because i think that he's a person that you've had conversations with andrew lock before like andrew three-time three-time ringer n._f._l. Show podcast. I mean andrew. Luck is somebody who a great interview. He wants to see the world. He wants to experience things. I mean this is with myriad interests and it's really difficult to be a twenty one point twenty nine year old person that has all of those in levels of engagement and not be able to do it. I can completely understand. I mean this is a guy with a lot of money in the bank. Who's about to turn thirty and wants to live his life. I can't fault fault for that. Yes gonna make a little over one hundred million dollars in his <hes> leave about fifty million on the table. It'll be really interesting to see what his next chapter. After is as you alluded to his behind the show. I've interviewed him a handful of times on this show <hes> he was actually the first person i did a podcast with in los angeles. Was it the ringer. It was not you <hes> we did a book club. Podcast big as i sorta helped i sort of unofficially launched the book club <hes> the year before by reading a story about the wall street journal and then he actually made it formal so then he we did a podcast about his favorite books. That's just so the listener knows that's not normal and the n._f._l. Is to do a book club podcast hum and so he the one thing he said was that he was not he loved the game of thrones books so much that he was not going to start the show until the books were done. Yeah i remember that which i i just cannot. I cannot process. That's the thing about angela cannot process not this retirement anyway <hes> yeah i mean he can do whatever he wants to do more. If you want to stay in football and do something that doesn't involve getting a crab knocked out of you can do that. You want to go being architecture student or architecture <hes> <hes> professional. He can do that because he was. An architecture student wants to just travel around the world have one hundred million dollars. You can do that so i'm not too worried about. Andrew lucked the person percents <hes> obviously this is bigger ramifications in the football field but the the the important thing really is that <hes> andrew lock does not experience. It's any more pain going forward and i think that's important and it's nice to know that he will but now we're sitting here and the colts are left to pick up the pieces right so what happens i wrote about. I just wrote about it right now. Before we started recording i mean this is not a team. That's going to go three and thirteen like they have enough talent and your kobe kobe not curtis painter yes. Jacoby percent is a solid backup quarterback and this is a roster that you know even outside of drew. Many people thought could compete for a super bowl so komo. We're sitting here and we're looking at a colts team. That's maybe i don't know what six and ten seventy nine so. You have your just another team which is disappointing. It's goes to be eight eight. Yeah something like that right so even if you do that the thing we last time this happened with the colts they were so bad they looked into the number one pick putting upon not intended and they got a generational player to replace peyton manning. I don't think we talk about bad enough. Andrew luck was such a promising quarterback prospect that they said goodbye to the best quarterback that the league is ever seen outside of time superbowl yes either fifty three touchdown passes the next year unripe but then he won a super bowl as literal corpse. Yes there two years later through fifth theon best but still it's not only paid many was done so that's not gonna happen this time. This isn't a situation where the colts are going to be so bad that they get the number one pick and two and this whole thing starts over again they're going to have to get very creative and how they eventually solve this because they are not going to be toiling down there with the likes of the dolphins and be three and thirteen and be have a top three pick and put themselves in a position to get another guy. Yeah i blade with you. I think that they're going to be. I saw some some talk about this this <hes> this morning they're going to be a little bit similar to what the eagles had pre wentz comparison because they have roster talent. They've got a lot of pieces. They just didn't have the quarterback and they're not going to go as you said one in fifteen to where they're going to be able to get to our in two years at trevor lawrence the problem then becomes. How do you get a quarterback. Do you trade up. Do you put all of your. You're you know deep it all of your your <hes> draft capital into getting a first or second pick. I think the problem for them. The next couple of drafts is at the quarterback prospector dr so good that that sort of auction you know once was not seen as a generational talent golf was not seen as a generational talent ever seen as good quarterbacks who deserved to go in the top five but it wasn't like two and certainly wasn't going to be like trevor. Lawrence isn't a couple of years so going to be really really hard to get up there to the tippy top of the draft if they wanted to <hes> <hes>. I think it's a listen if you're making a list of gm's who you trust to build around right now. <hes> chris ballard is is on the very very very shortlist so i think colts fans are in better hands. I think that chris if chris ballard was the g._m. For the entire aunt you luck <hes> regime then. This is a very different story. Ryan giggs deserves a lot of the blame for often andrew. Luck was hit <hes> for mismanaging the entire team <hes> i it is yeah yeah. It is a football tragedy but not a not a personal tragedy for anybody here. <hes> nobis dead angela cool will be a much happier person tomorrow than anyone two days ago and if there's any sort of football tragedy it it deserves to be put squarely on ryan grigson yeah i'm with you and i think that part of the reason this is so depressing on a football level. Is that what we saw last year the fact that he got sacked eighteen times the fact that he's playing in this really fun and just innovative offense that gets the ball quickly. It just felt like we've we've finally come to a place where andrew luck had the team and the infrastructure that he deserved and we got one in europe and now it's over so i i think that's part of the reason that it's so disappointing on thou levels. We finally had reached a place where it's like okay. This is the guy that we thought he could be here. We go oh and we got sixteen games. It is upsetting in that regard and again. The grigson thing is just ridiculous and they'd hired another g._m. And twenty twelve and this is a complete different story. I mean it's one of the all time bad jim performances of my lifetime i mean just the constant management every single level and also get hiring chris ballard after that in in which he immediately cleans up the cap space even around you know andrew luck's allegedly albatross contracts brain trust of a contract and then he you know no builds up the draft capital hits to all rookie all pros in the first year <hes> he crushes the draft fisher it was it was not just ryan grigson being a badge dodgy. I'm brian gruesome ingham badge and then a good g._m. 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We all know the consequences instant driving drunk but one thing's for sure. You're wrong if you think it's no big deal drive sober or get pulled over. I don't want to go too far down this path because i think it's a little bit dicey but remember this off season where we're looking at all that cap space the call todd or thinking all right here. We go like this. Is it all in like. They have all this money. They have the team here. We go and it didn't happen. Do it's possible that chris ballard had an inkling that this might be around the cloud so there's some rumors that they've known on for a while but i also think that you know what report i thought about this. Morning was <hes> jim irsay last year saying they would not trade to kobe kobe percent for first round. Pick yeah i thought i at the time i was like well that is ludicrous and i wonder if if andrew luck sort of talked talked about giving this up a lot more than we imagined and the fact that it didn't leak unlike gronkowski unlike calvin johnson <hes> <hes> the fact that it didn't leak is just a testament to you know angela looks different a and looks different dude be his agent asus uncle who has i think has any other client side from his his nephew and so he's not exactly you know part of the n._f._l. <hes> media apparatus that would leak these things things and then dimmer saying. We're not going to say anything at that time so it's not in retrospect a huge surprise that there would be <hes> <hes> there were there. Were not be any leaks about this kind of months and years ago all right. I guess just to wrap up here. I mean when you think about the andrew luck era what are you you can remember about. Andrew luck yeah one of the most fascinating people <hes> who's ever played the game. Frankly <hes> i've i've spent a lot of time reporting hang on on him. I came in as authority in twenty twelve <hes> the same month he was drafted and i basically spent my first four years as chronically nothing nothing but andrew luck and tom brady and he gave us endless stories and i don't think i think there's a handful of people in this league you can you can who you can talk about anything. <hes> aaron rodgers one of them malcolm jenkins an injection consummate in that a little bit <hes> and he's one of them and again and he can do. I think his next chapter is going to be way more interesting than almost anybody else's next chapter. He can do whatever he you want if he wants to move to europe and just follow german soccer team around he can do that. He likes that stuff so i think in five years there's <hes> we're gonna have andrew lock in our lives and it's going to be just as interesting as it is now yeah. I mean he's easily. One of the most fascinating people walk into the n._f._l. And a long time i remember reporting a story story years ago where i sat down with his academic advisor from stanford for a while and just talked about just the way he thinks and it was fascinating. I mean they're just very few people. People who've come into the league that have a mind like him and it's funny because his left tackle was one of them he was a it was like a rhode scholar candidate they always it was funny that those two guys were on the same team because there are two of the smartest people i've ever met in sports but from the football perspective i just think that i'm going to look back on this and just wonder what might would've been for this season for the colts and for the last seven years because again andrew luck was just supposed to be this thing as a prospect that we have not seen in a really long time and it never happened. He was a really good quarterback but it never was quite what we had imagined and now it's never going to be and that's gonna stick at me football but that's football the the problem. Lem is when you have a sport in which you can get hit what two hundred and fifty three times or whatever the number was that all again. It takes one time for entire career become derailed. It takes one hit for an entire team to have to start over again. It takes one hit for an entire city to inexplicably start booing doing the guy who'd given everything to them for the past seven years this happens. It's it's the real tragedy of football football. I is is is is giving us our livelihoods. I'm excited to talk about it every day but it sucks. Sometimes it absolutely sucks to play. It sucks to rehab an injury injury. It sucks to wake up and know how long the climb is back. I mean both of us haven't played since freaking highschool and we remember some lavar hits. We took okay. <hes> and we've you know one of the things the we get. The people don't get is we get to stay on the sidelines and see the car rex the happen. When there's a hit it is unbelievable. How hard these guys you would have a it. Is you even go you go to a pittsburgh steelers practice on like july twenty ninth okay and they're doing live tackling and you think like other going easier whatever and enlarge in large parts they are going easy but but you're like i would not survive one hit because humans you know doug whaley said it a couple of years ago and he had to backtrack from it but it's true humans are not meant to play football and we learned that every couple of years yeah in he took more punishment than anybody so i can completely understand it from that perspective but here we are so in the a._f._c. Just briefly wrapping things up here. Is it just the patriots and the chiefs and really nothing else at this point. Is there anybody that you think can crack this <hes> um so the texans lost the running back last night lamar miller which is unfortunate for hillary but i'm not sure it's the the worst thing in the world for the texans i mean i think that'd be lamar miller. The not have lamar miller sure but i think they'll be okay yeah. It'll be fine. I i also think they should be on the chargers. The i think the chargers have a chance here to to to get up rational already worried about them. I i think that i think the chargers become the third best human a._f._c. now and they're a team that has already lost her when james that doesn't have left tackle for the first however many games of the year. That's how it's like thin. It is at the top of the a._f._c. right now. It's not pretty if the worst thing that happens to us is that we get a chiefs patriots ansi title game again. I'm a man yeah. Ah i i yeah i agree but it's still just one of those things where the a._f._c. looks a lot different now than it did. Yesterday i can tell you that much. He had a lot of things still i body. That's all we got as guys. Thank you so much. Listen to the ringer n._f._l. Show on the ringer podcast network. We'll be back later this week with more shows. We'll talk to you soon. That's got a uh-huh <music>. Do you think drunk driving is no big deal. You couldn't be more wrong. You could get in a crash. People could get hurt or killed and you could get arrested incur a huge legal expenses or even luger job so next time you plan on drinking. Make sure you plan ahead designate. A sober driver will use a ride service to get home safely drive drive sober or get pulled over.

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Andrew Luck Retires

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Andrew Luck Retires

"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash outside happy monday does welcome now sidelines. I'm clinton. Today we get out on the pitch to talk about the hope and pain the women's game and with the future of that looks like but let's be real the center of the american sports universities now indianapolis indiana. That's where the big story is number twelve. What andrew austin luck was born in washington dc nearly three decades ago. He was already destined for the family business. Father oliver not only played in the n._f._l. He was also at one point the president of the league we now referred to as n._f._l. Europe and he did a stint as athletic director in west virginia. University football was very figuratively in andrews blood but when he made the decision to leave the n._f._l. In his home stadium for the only n._f._l. Squatted ever played for the team that drafted him the indianapolis colts. Not everything went as planned. If you've been paying attention retirement wasn't surprising giving his history of injuries but it did come out of nowhere at least for us for him. It was clear i felt stuck in it and the only way i see out as to no longer play football. It's it's taken in my joy of this game away and a this sorry. I've been stuck doc in this process. I haven't been able to live the life. I wanna live taking the joy out of this game. There were boos as he walked off. The field in all sorts of messages of support and disdain from various camps in the weekend was chewed up with luck takes of all corners of the internet that all amounts of one thing selfish for for one playing football is a choice not a duty and secondarily anytime you hear the words overseas rehab and treatment options with player primarily based in the u._s. That's a signal to you at the end could come at any moment that happened two whole years ago so while fans can cry into their beers life does go on to the n._f._l. Or maybe not joining joining us now. David purdham asia look has retired. Obviously there is thursday and we found you. Hello sir. Your looks tremendous david. Let's start with you. Here's the ball. This is obviously a big deal in vegas. Forget about the india and the indianapolis colts right here. What's the first thing you thought as a guy that understands the sportsbook as soon as he walked away. What did you think it was going to be affected most primarily is it a v._p. Raises the super bowl words all that money starting with it was all of it really books for scrambling on saturday night left like the media was to try to catch up on this story. They reacted by taking everything down. I'm from your super bowl. Odds to division odds all the way to season win totals on teams all kinds of stuff. They took it all down. Every five teams improve their super bowl odds based. I under luxa tyrant the three a._f._c. south divisional opponents in the steelers and chargers also their odds improved to win the super bowl and the season win totals for each of the colts opponents also went up so vegas had its <hes> had a lot of work to do they worked quickly and as one <hes> <hes> west gate super book oddsmaker told me they had to pretty much take everything down that they had on the n._f._l. And change at all well for those who aren't major gamblers like me. I like i mean. Is that a bad thing in the vegas book they losing money on this zolt of this guy walking out or is that just simply changing things from a structural standpoint. They've got to readjust it. Changes things have to be quick when news breaks because savvy better be paying attention and if they leave the number up on the colts a little bit too who long they will jump better jump on it for example the g._m. Said it took a couple early bets earlier in the week on the under on the season win total for the colts yes which could have been found at ten and nine and a half when it reopened it was down to seven so if books were careful and being rarely ready to react they could you get caught. You know a couple of big bets here and there could cost them some money. Well i mean i guess my other question too is. How did you think this changes. Perhaps overall the season for the average n._f._l. Oh kimbler leaving the league is for most people. It's a big deal from a football standpoint but i never thought of one guy leave is gonna change this many gambling operations i mean how do you think this affects what we see week to week in the n._f._l. Anytime you have a starting quarterback the caliber irv andrew luck. It's going to impact everything from fantasy leagues to sports betting so everybody's gonna try to adjust the goal for the betters right. Now is try to decide side. If the adjustments at the bookmakers made were they overvalued luck or they undervalued. Maybe they think jacoby percent is going to be better than the bookmakers thing so they have to react to that that decide if the odds changed enough or not enough so that's how it's going to change the veterans. Can you imagine any other player like any other other than angela. That would have made this much of an impact yeah. There's several almost any of your top level quarterbacks aaron rodgers. Tom brady's <hes> even down to like a dak prescott in those range guys all except anybody that is an established starting quarterback who is star dr potential is going to have significant impact now when you get some of the other players. Some people are are surprised that maybe like an odell beckham would not have as big of impact a as you might think but quarterbacks are always going to change everything. What did you think about those boos. I'm just interested in your opinion on what you thought about him getting booted coming out of it. I'm deadly really interested in your opinion on what you thought about getting booed walking out of indian indianapolis disappointing <hes> you know i think that <hes> sometimes as fans we get a little bit over passionate betters have the same <hes> you know kind of passion and they'll when they get into it and see hey. I just sped on andrew luck to win the m._v._p. And now he's retiring there obviously frustrated but to buddha guy to make a professional decision. I thought that was a little bit over the top. Some i'm sports books. <hes> you know they did decide to refund. Bets on andrew luck to win the m._v._p. West gate super book in las vegas did that in new jersey sportsbook points bet. I'll also a refunded bets on lock to win the m._v._p. So there's a little gesture from the the bookmakers to kind of quell some of that concerns from the vendors all right david part tired of me. Thanks for joining us all right. Let's try this again new york. Daily news is pat. Leonard is on the phone with us right now. He says he finds the timing of the quarterbacks decision the walkaway more. I'm curious than reasonable pat. Let me ask you this. When you first saw those boots you said and you thought yourself what before you wrote this column. I thought that i understood how to see how fans felt because they had absolutely no context or reason to be prepared for that clinton not to mention that in the n._f._l. They condition these fans to care and live and die with every roster transaction every contract and then you know they also are conditioned to overlook the brutality taliban violence of the sport in and look at an injury as more of a setback to the team rather than to the individual's health and so they hear this news come down in the middle of preseason season game while andrew lock is standing there on the sidelines and even though andrew lock deserves better than that type of booing reception. I don't think it's right to call all the fans classless confused and frustrated in that moment because there would be no other way that they could feel <hes> and if you're going to call them classless then you have to call the entire n._f._l. Fan model classes because as i said they're more conditioned to view that as simply a speed bump on their teams road to the super bowl which now right there is has been dashed in unprecedented fashion. I disagree with that. I understand what you're saying. They're in terms of who the n._f._l. Is but i think there's a lot of fans that saw that and we're disheartened because because n._f._l. Fan could justify that and you're thinking to yourself well. This evanger can be booed the guy who actually did have all the guy who had a scot free record just in terms of being a guy there. Are you know from an n._f._l. Fan standpoint thinking he can be booed. Walking away from the game can't be right but it was definitely i think twenty minutes later everyone in the stands there air would have had a different reaction as you're standing and watching andrew lucked you know wince and talk about his injury pain rehab cycle that is never ending and the mental and physical fatigue but more even the mental side of it for him and i think people would have reacted much differently if they had more of the context there because remember also also they were being told that he was going to be ready over close to ready and even the week prior. He did a pretty game workout on the field where he looked really good so the fans and you're seeing seeing now. There isn't a a report in the athletic that some fans <hes> are asking for their season ticket money back and that's this is all related to the fact that they felt kind of jilted or they were sold something that they're no longer getting one of the things you obviously covers the n._f._l. Income the giants as well. What do you put players. Did you talk about this and what was the reaction around the league from guys you know who said whoa weird stepping away from fifty to two hundred well a lot of the of all the guys i talked to didn't they didn't want to go on the record but they were willing to talk talk about it from the standpoint of there were some who completely understood where andrew luck was coming from and all they said was hey wish him the best i i think it's good that he goes out on his own terms. Whatever that is <hes>. I think prioritizing your health is a great thing which by the way agree with <hes> but then i thought it was interesting. There were plenty of other players who felt that if they were colts player or one of andrew luck teammates that they would have every right to be upset particularly italy with the timing of it and this goes back to the fan reaction as well but from a player's standpoint. If you're on the indianapolis colts this happened this late. This is an ah unexpected thing and not only is it tough as far as you know hurting your team's chances of winning but for the other eighty nine players trying to make the team and then the fifty three you make it and then the forty six o'clock every sunday watch departure likely reduces the success rate of this team they win fewer games and that's costing these guys playoff money and and chances to accrue staff and victory that are going to get them free agent contract and lucrative money down the road so you get hurt their earning power not to mention that andrew luck has the luxury to do this a lot of the guys the majority of the n._f._l. They don't have the luxury of choosing their mental and physical health over the game and quitting you know this is not just a passion for them. This is how they make a living and how they provide for their families and so andrew luck <hes> you know he's getting his twenty eighty. Four point eight million returned to him basically are not taking away by the colts as a gesture of faith but then you have the rest of these guys on the roster who are just scratching and clawing to make it. I oh i think <hes> you know it's definitely from lux point of view or from another player's point of view it could be that luck has a certain advantage there in being able to make that decision position that he normally would not have generational wealth is quite the thing. Let me ask you this. Do you think that this is going to be somewhat contagious in terms of the mindset around the rest of the league. That's a good question. I think that it certainly if a guy of his stature sees it as okay a guy i of his stature and by that i mean would change the entire landscape of a franchise then i think anybody would look at themselves and say what does that could that apply to me too but i do think that most players can't follow suit you know they can't they can't just stop retaining or painting those paychecks. They can't just say hey. You know what that extra three hundred million dollars hoping to make down the road. That's okay not to mention that luck. He gets his money. He gets to keep this bonus money because the colts give it to <hes> but guys like barry sanders calvin johnson with the lions in years past the lion's recouped that money they took over one million dollars back from calvin johnson and barry sanders had have to return six or seven million so just because the colts have handled the luck situation. This way doesn't mean if another guy followed suit with luck that they would be okay with it. Just pat leonard. He's a beat writer intern columnist for the new york daily news. You can follow him on twitter at p. Leonard n._y._p._d. And thank you pat sar. The blue blazed didn't get on t._v. Buddy looks good coming up be smart. Is it always the same thing thing is in your head does when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste. You need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com posted job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try for free at indeed dot com slash outside. That's indeed dot com slash outside terms conditions and quality standards apply it outside the lie is brought to you by djalma no order online and trank order fee blocked today kiddos use your head. When i was a kid it was a catch all phrase for having common sense when you operate operate in the world by the time i got to high school. It was directed from my soccer coach to put the ball on the net and for british outer it was an action in that sport that has dramatically changed her life in ways she could have never imagined concussions ended her career in her college. Time two neck surgeries six diagnose head injuries later. There are still questions about how to prevent this from happening to other the athletes particularly women. She joins us in studio today to discuss her life and her goals rene. Thank you for joining us and i guess i'll just start at the beginning. You know i think so many people here about concussions. I think football they think wrestling w._w._e. And they don't often think about soccer and they certainly don't think about in the context of heading the ball an actual play as opposed to a collision where and when this become something on your your life that you knew pay attention to not until after i was forced to stop playing the game unfortunately i abbas taken headers from the time i was really small <hes>. They never gave me a problem. As far as i knew <hes> you know i had a concussion and high school and it wasn't even and soccer one was just bad luck <hes> and then i got to college and i got three concussions in a row only one of which was from heading the ball you know i jumped up to head it collided lighted with another player and my body turned in the full force of the ball went to the side of my head so my vision started getting a little funky a little bit after i didn't really know what was going on. I subbed myself. I saw foul but then the combination of coming back from those concussions and continuing to head the ball is when i really started to have a problem what one of the things i think it's difficult with concussions. Is that because you cannot see a concussion. It is difficult for people not to believe you but for a lot of people around games to understand what the impact is when when you're in college was there any difficulty in terms of navigating when and how you're going to play once diagnosed he started happening. How did you do that just in terms of being able to have your own agency as is a player roster to me. It was if you can sign me off. I'm gonna play you know it was just i just want him back on the field regardless of the cost unfortunately and i had a lot of people looking out for me trying to talk some sense into me trying to get me to stop playing but in the end the doctors signed the form. Let me back onto the field and i wasn't going to slow down so you know i was just going to continue to go after the ball or full force. If it was coming at me i was i was going with it with my head or with my body. It didn't matter to me large level now. What have you learned about how this works for. You know how these kinds of things happened around the country with other girls at the soccer teams in terms of safety. Doing it's so common. Unfortunately you know now tom. <hes> heading has slowed down at least at the younger ages. They're not supposed to do it anymore but the parents tell me that you know they are either a still doing it and they're just not supposed coast to or be when they do start doing it. They're going straight into throwing fully pumped up soccer balls at kids that don't know how to the ball so why why are we. We're doing it with fully pump up soccer balls. Why are we doing at twenty times in a row. What what's the point you know. I i understand people. Don't want to change the game. They don't want to get rid of headers fine but i think there are smarter ways that we can do it. We can teach it with dodge balls or like inflated balls the cushioned balls right. We can wait until they're older to teach form and then after form put it into practice and then after practice put it in games. I don't wanna to get seaport you here but i mean have you lost any of your love for the game as a result of the ways affected your body for a little while i did it was really hard for me to go back to the sport <hes> it was hard for me to watch games hard for me to coach kids that i really grow to love as almost kids of my own and then i go and i'm terrified to watch them play but now in the end i i love the game and it's given so much to me as well. Yes it has taken a lot of way but i think as long as we play the right way and we play the smart way. It can give more than it. They'll say go away. What's next for you in this causing me. What do you teach. How do you get out here on t._v. Now but how do you get this message out to some of the youth efforts. I'm uh-huh well. I'd travel internationally with nonprofit think concussions and i talked to medical. Providers parents coaches athletes hopefully i i talked to athletes locally but i i share my story. I share what i've been through. I share my hopes for these kids and i just i really hope they're paying attention to the it's not just football players. It's not nothing as mild about it. You know a concussion is a brain injury and when you look at it that way hopefully people take it a little bit more seriously but it's all about awareness. It's about awareness and it's about a culture shift. We have to look out for ourselves. We have to look out for our kids. We have to look out for our teammates. Maybe you don't want to report it for yourself but but if you have a good teammate a good friend they'll report for you. Thank you very much for joining. Thank you for having me. Your boy went to a soccer game this weekend and added a heck of a time to johnny got a golf set when he was three and that he was hooked all he wanted to do was gulf gulf gulf gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools. All he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson ondon thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switch to geico and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so ooh that was good and so was with his grandson sportscenter six eastern after the u._s. Open with sage michael eaves. They'll have the latest comments from the colts on how forward after injury alexa tyrant plus the crucial matchups that could decide baseball's part race and what's at stake tonight for serena <hes> and british your sportscenter six eastern on e._s._p._n. And the e._s._p._n. App we gotta monday night baseball double header for you with a matchup between l. Central central playoff contenders first game seventy cars burs then yankee star three game series against the mariners. Both of those bad boys are on e._s._p._n. An the e._s._p._n. App on saturday night. I made my way down buzzard point in the district of columbia lumbia with nearly twenty thousand of my closest friends to see the washington spirit take on the orlando pride and what was the largest crowd ever to see that team play at home owner. Steve baldwin was buzzing around doing in all he could to make the experience meaningful for everyone and the crowd was genuinely super pumped to put it plainly it was the most fun i'd had at a soccer game in years gregory and you're looking at someone used to be an m._l._s. season ticket holder black these united don't forget that that's not going that lead per se but there's definitely an energy and momentum into about the n._w._f. That is extremely palpable. All of the american world cup stars weren't even on the field but that didn't matter before the people just plain out to watch great footy and not say root for the usa only was a sight to behold. I also found myself incapable of -verting my eyes from marta. Who've just a marvel on the pigeon. If you ever get a chance to see her play nevermind score a goal do it also the best turned out to be a great one. A couple of lead changes a couple of fantastic saves and two near misses that held the place up and down for ninety minutes minutes. The point is was clear now. Is that everyone in anybody. Who's trying to say that this league might not make it for one reason or another you know reason is not going to be the soccer. The product i saw on the field in that stadium was nothing short of fantastic after the game baldwin gave the kind of speech that takes a ton of guts. If you're a guy putting your money and your time into elite like this are club will not rest until we change this game forever for the amazing women that play this game. Thank you to all of our players. Thank you to orlando for being here tonight. Please keep supporting our club. Our lake aac contres national team as we move forward. Nobody's begging for fans but he's danger fighting for his team. The league in the sport overall we've seen so many stops and starts women's professional clubs soccer in the u._s. It's understandable to be reticent about any leagues viability but in the year of our lord twenty nine thousand nine that night if felt right there are still lawsuits going on and they're still idiots who will never respect female athletes but there's one compliment i can play to the spirit and it's obvious i'm definitely going back again n._f._l. Live next. Why did you talk to you. I'll see you wednesday.

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Hour 3: Prince Fielder

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:37 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3: Prince Fielder

"The dan lebatardshow podcast is presented by the capital one venture car when you are an unlimited double miles on every purchase. Your next trip is closer than you think capital one. What's in your wallet. Donlevatar on libertad creepy is app. Stugatz had to catch midi he died. They seized donlevatar show with two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio i believe that this man is at the centre literally of the single greatest celebration in the history of baseball where he hit a home run and he jumped dumped on home plate and all of his teammates fell down and play because he had just hit a home run but i don't want to talk to prince fielder about baseball. All i want to talk to him about food. He's with us on behalf of kingsford charcoal. You can find your team's recipe online at kingsford dot com slash rush taste of the games go prince. Thank you for joining us. Are you proclaiming yourself a barbecue expert. Can we go to you with all of our barbecue questions skins and you're willing to be the supreme court judge who makes rulings on this stuff <hes> now. I'm not gonna say that but i mean you know from looking at the game book everything. I know a little bit but i'm not not a master by all right well. We're making you a master anyway whether you want to be or not because you're here on behalf of kingsford the charcoal and if you don't wanna play along we're going to do it anyway. So tell us a perfect way to barbecue something. According to prince fielder or oh you definitely gotta use kingsford charcoal. That's where all the flavor comes on well done and <hes> it depends. I mean you know i mean it depends on how you like your whatever your <hes> grilling world medium. You know what i mean whatever you like you know. It's your presence so prince. What do you do if you're grilling because timing is very important with this stuff stuff because you want to be hot. The second comes off the grill. So if you're going hot dogs hamburgers and chicken dethrone all on the grill i you throw one in the girl i i. How do you negotiate that. That's a good question. I probably go chicken last after i do hotdogs burgers and chicken and that way you know the hotdogs burgers can rest for a second check is that you're ready to go. What is the best side dish at a barbecue your question <hes> first of all depends who's making them and i would say probably i like <hes> macaroni and cheese prince. Is it thoroughly unacceptable to put aluminum. Foil down on the grill before you start grilling right question though <hes> i don't really growing up everyone one my dad and everyone. I've never seen them do that. So i would say no cecil fielder would never he would never even though even though some producers back there on our show may have thought that cecil fielder was a position in baseball when they were kids. Cecil fielder would never disrespect barbecue that way yeah that was me. I thought it was a physician position. I thought it was like a guy right behind second base outfielder. They're making geico prince. We can agree. They'll kale the worst yeah. I mean you know if you're not for for for the health back. Yeah i guess but prince you became a vegan right. You're out here on behalf of grilling but are you still a vegan. Obviously not you know yeah now talking acting cheese and hot dogs. I was very disappointed. When you became a vegan. I imagine that your house looked like the rocky meat locker and turn that he trained it. No not not that much deep dish pizza overrated or not overrated well. <hes> you know growing up in detroit for a while the deep dish you know i i like they always bought me troy and you know they were good to me. I like i think they're they're rated just fine. Let's say you're cooking. <hes> baby back ribs the go along with the kingsford charcoal. What kind of wood would yang's ooh nice. I don't know didn't think about that. Oh you've stumped him. Stumped our barbecue expert. Who's not actually a barbecue expert. What's what's the most amount of ood nice. What maybe we should ask roy. What's the most amount of meat you could put down in one sitting prints five pounds. That's a trial not i'd say probably two or three to five is. I'd start throwing up privacy. Would you rather go with a dry rub or which smarter it would also yeah. I like to drive drive up the best ballpark food. According to prince fielder is <hes> route. Go i would say seattle what in seattle you're talking about the general menu in seattle yeah just express it was fresh. Take ah prince people say people say a lot with burgers. Burgers are very tricky because people will say like master barbecue chefs will say you're only flip the burger once and that's just the flip it on the other side. How many times does prince fielder flip a burger when he's grilling it okay well. I don't mind that steak and everything being medium. You know sometimes medium char- you know but i like i can't do the the chewy burgers got that has to be cooked all the way burgers can't have up to the middle bloody pink. Look not the burgers <hes>. It's a multiple talking like three or four times until it gets well done. I see what's going on here. Prince has made a lot of dough and his life and we're asking him cooking questions. This guy's got someone cooking for him right. Oh that's a good. That's a good question. I'm retirement at home now so i don't want anybody else in my face so i could myself when you're grilling haunting. When you grill in hotdogs prince do you put catch up on those hotdogs dogs. <hes> it depends i heard to catch up isn't can't do. I heard musters. Do you know the way you're supposed to do it so i try to do it the right way right but i like catcher but i try not to put it on anymore. I read that catch up on how doug cool. It's not no it's not it's not about the he people throw you out of their barbecue but catch true. You can put catch up in such it was made for burgers was made for discussion. What do you mean. I love ketchup on a on talk. You guys eat baby. Cecil fielder would not agree with this nonsense. I bet what part of america has the best barbecues texas is. A kansas city memphis carolina's good question <hes> pretty good. <hes> <hes> lewis is good also has brought us well. Why are we asking cecil field there. I mean prince fielders. I'm sorry are we asking him hotdog questions when this man played in milwaukee the best. What do you put on your broads when you're putting them on the grill but <hes> i you know i've never cooked braatz. I kids which over time but i just like i said i like all if it's not stake. I like mine. You know just weld allowed them prince. That's shocking shocking. You've never caught the brought us now last week against milwaukee your blasphemed against milwaukee you gotta go you you gotta eat. You know i only by those people not do it. I don't wanna do it messed up but that was like a prop bet. It'd be like a minus five million have you wouldn't have guessed that <hes> again. He's with us on behalf of kingsford charcoal. You could find your team's recipe online at kingsford dot com slash taste of the game. I've seen you you in the body issue and i've just seen now christian yelich unassuming slugger for milwaukee brewers and the body issue. How is he doing this looking like that. Why are you asking baseball questions billy. What are you have. What's the matter with you so go sit in the penalty box. Oh prince you were you. Were talking about seattle stadium food. How many many times because baseball obviously is a long game. How many times in your playing career did you send like a clubhouse guy or something. Get you some stadium food during the game then sneak out because i need to go to the bathroom boom hotdog. I love that never never. I wasn't two hundred play because you know i guess nerves would i. I wasn't hungry play using right after but when i was playing everyone you want eat much. Did you have those clubhouse spreads. We're usually amazing prince. Did you have a weakness in that. Club has been tempted as a reporter to go in there and grab grab stuff out of the tens. That isn't isn't for me. I what what is the thing in there. That was your greatest weakness. Yes that's the each you know. Each stadium has different things so i'd say right in philly it was not always have the spreads and you can get cheese steaks and sad so i probably goes and you can you. Can you put mustard on a cheese steak. Is that allowed. I don't i've never done that yeah. Don't don't don't do it right. What's the most exotic food you ever had. Oh aw probably like what is that. I think a c._f._c. are yes. That tastes like sea urchin gr- i didn't like it was gross. Can you catch a bunch. You probably need wired. Let's get to a realistic question if i could make your fingers condiment shooters so all all your five fingers on one hand good question get one condiment from each finger but these are the only condiments you get for the rest of your life. Wow five condiments. They never run out which all right hold on a second. This is big. Let's get the fanfare music here so we could get all five things from prince fielder on behalf of kingsford charcoal. You have a moment to think about this sprint. He's with us on behalf of kingsford charcoal. You can find your team's recipe. Online kingsford dot com slash taste of the game five condiments for the the rest of your life shooting out of each one of your fingers on your right hand. What is the first condiment. Prince fielders choosing say catch the fourth one. Prince fielder is choosing the third one the prince just fielder as choosing roger the second one prince fielder choosing <hes>. Let me see that's it. You're going to have an empty. I don't like mayonnaise so is butter economy butter butter barbecue. Somebody didn't say barbecue sauce barbecue anywhere aware that whenever get rid of you know just like you don't need it dry rubs dan yeah there you go and the thumb. The thumb is giving. What's the thumb blue cheese. He's ranch anything. We'll go. We'll go is we need wel- naval sarah put together prince. Thank you for being on again. He's with us half of kingsford charcoal. You could go to kingsford dot com slash tastes to the game anything you want to tell us about that before you get out of here. Yeah go get into good book. Okay very good all right. Thank you for your time sir. We appreciate all your expertise. Thank you sir arbat stugatz here dollarshaveclub. 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Radio radio so guillermo i am told has recovered from all of his grieving and sadness of the last few days is ready to participate in the show again because he's just has been sad and mopey because andrew lock is retired and has denied us all the wonderful charming <hes> sound that we had grown accustomed to from andrew luck and he's got a couple of thoughts here that i've been meaning to get to one he made a face about an hour ago about the <hes> the paddle boarder who who made his way across from where to wear standing the whole time it was san francisco he went from california to why he traveled twenty five hundred miles on his paddleboard award in seventy six days his goal was to do it in seventy days. He got a dozen seventy six. It seem scary to me terry dumb enough already i think did you see the picture that thing was an airplane without wings. You know you could just get on an actual airplane and go to hawaii right and it doesn't take seventy six days. I'm assuming he was raising money for something something. How about just sell this thing and give the money that this massive thing that cost you millions of dollars cost. Just give that money to charity. Why do we have to build this thing. It's impressive. I i mean i think looks like wait. Six thousand pounds right just get on an airplane. Are you not afraid of the sea at night at night like i don't believe that that thing is going to make you feel safe. When the waves start climbing or the storms make an appearance and all of a sudden you're in choppy seas. There's always a hawk like a boat calm and the guy gets the rest arrests that night. There's always seems to be a hook with one of these things right bill. I mean it's not not impressive but it's also not necessary. Why and you're not unique meek anymore k. We've had like seventy people do this. Okay you could be the first one from san francisco to hawaii but we had a guy go from like russia allied maine or something like we've. We've had longer distances okay. I don't know how far that could be pretty close. I'm not exactly sure geographically russia not close yeah well. I don't know dan gotta do the full globe yes. I would like to challenge someone to do that but don't because it's such a dumb idea. Why would you do that. It's going to take you seven years of your life that you're never gonna get back back those seventy six days you know what he could have done a lord anything other than this anything yeah you can learn to play an instrument gone to the gym lost fifteen pounds said said you're starving yourself exact learn a new language. Thank you can do all of those things on this thing which comes complete with jim mash the biggest in a room on it. There's two rooms. A big thing is bigger than my apartment. It's like a duplex what is going on here. It's insane. It's not that large. It's large okay. It's not a it's also not a paddleboard but so your your take is basically typically. It's not impressive but it's also not impressive. I don't even know what my take is anymore. I mean it's just general skepticism how many times you're going to do this. Why do we need to keep doing this. What did he get out of this. The publicity that we just talked about it in a lot of people are talking about broke a world record to while he failed because he wanted to seventy take seventy six that was his personal goal personal goal in his personal record book. You wanted it to be seventy days. You're also somebody who i. I meant to get it to this but now i don't even have time anymore because of all of your skepticism. This is really your wheelhouse a bill. You have to go all over the network and be the guy who questions people who are making these <hes> across the ocean treks because no one's doing it the way you are in terms of just burying people who are breaking world records all across our ocean. I feel like i'm i'm just playing like this. One was the latest one of all to be honest with you. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however in most nesting doll here's the geiko not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity. The innermost nesting doland her lot in life donlevatar right. Did you guys see <hes> gilbert arenas assessment of zion ron williamson agent zero stugatz you enter my question. There are no like no okay live at our show with his two guys on e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. Radio larry king has gotten divorced for the seventh time. I wanna put it on the poll. The question at lebatardshow gear mo is there any point linked to getting divorced at eighty five years old. I'm just asking i'm curious. What it is the audience. Is there any point two seven times. I mean seven seven times has been done before. Eighty five strikes me as a tough age to not have learned everything that you needed to learn in the previous six chris this. What are your grocery store etiquette questions. I've been wanting to get to this all week because i've heard you talking about it but i haven't heard the specifics of what the subject matter well i often have you know i feel uneasy in a grocery store because i just never know. I don't want to offend people. There's a lot of <hes> judgy people sometimes grocery stores have often talked about how when in the produce section listen in my allowed to say fondle but you know touch all the tomatoes like before i decide on tomato allowed to pick it up and touch it and look at it because i feel like people are looking at me like oh. You're touching that thing better by anyways so i've had that discussion so that's not even one of the questions i set up. Put it on the pole guillermo at lebatardshow. Should you be fondling the tomatoes in produce. The answer is yes. I do it. All the time and people have kind of told me that that is allowed because then you go home. You're supposed to wash so good. Yes the question today is is. I often see people and you know this makes me jealous. They're walking through publix. They have a shopping cart just like eating chips and they're just like drinking sodas and what's the etiquette on this. If i'm going to pay for it am i allowed to. Just take a bag of chips off the shelf. Open it as i'm shopping just eat it so i like to start with a bag of chips and the soda fountain soda and by the by the time i'm done shopping because i love stroll through public especially on a sunday okay by the time i'm done. I'm done with the soda with the chips apps and i just opened the garbage. Don't pay for that not surprising at all. I would've just steal yes technically listen technicality mccallum. There's no technically that's just a crime. You just admitted to a crime. I mean is it stealing. If you don't leave the place with the items i mean i'm eating them in store. I mean ah this was my father's move throughout my childhood for my entire childhood i thought all those candies that were just out in that group <hes> candy anything that you'll find occasionally the supermarket i thought that was just there for customers because my father would just grab a handful and edith as he was walking through the grocery store and then just put the rappers near the soup dan i'd have all my dad does the same thing and he calls a grazing. I'm crazy those chuckles right he with those charged with everything. Did it just all kinds of candies throughout my childhood. We should accused my father of that when he comes in here in a few minutes oh the way i'm feeling that the room is is as long as i'm going to pay for it. I'm allowed to do it. I also because the bakeries a different section like sometimes they have these jamaican beef patties and the croquet does and they put them in a little package with the seal. It and it's got the price on it. Am i allowed to like same rules like i'm asking the same question is just allowed in general. It's allowed but you don't wanna be the guy guy who's doing it. I know it's totally embarrassing like walking around. Eating at jamaican patty is not good luck. I did it all the time. You're allowing others through question. Yours your restraint. I do eat. It really takes like one row now one. I'll by the by the time i'm done the islets going. There is no one here who surprised that stu gods would eat entire meals. I'm surprised you don't need a week's worth of groceries just wandering during around a grocery store for a week treating it like that terrible. Tom hanks terminal movie christie. You go to the deli line and they give you like a nice little thin slice of like you know honey roasted turkey turkey or something like that <hes> now that i will admit. I've got a little stugatz me with that. Sometimes they're very generous with letting you try stuff in the deli meats. Sometimes i'll be like i'm interested interested in a quarter pound of provolone <unk>. Let me let me try it and then she'll cut me thing approval on. I'll be like you know what i'm going to circle back. You're not always circling sure if i want to do the cheesy. I'll come come back around yeah yeah. That's the hustle right there. Is you tell them hey. I want a quarter pound of this and then they give it to you. Is this thinner said. No or thinner doesn't matter just to get more while we're on the topic. I also have a young child now so when i bring her to publix they give free cookies publicist great about this. I just walked right up. They hinder cookie. He keeps her occupied. Am i allowed to have a bite of this cookie because technically it's for the kids. Am i allowed questions. You're going to the grocery store and you're giving more thought the things that most people do. You're allowed to have the entire cookie. Don't take students is advice on him because he just admitted that he's the've. I say my kids are in the car. My kids aren't even there when i get the cookie that's right okay. I have a different situation. Are you ever drinking like a water bottle or soda and then you walk into the store and then you're really paranoid. They're going to think that every single store. I'm worried about that and sometimes i'll even walk in and l. Hold it up to the security cameras. Hey water just drink just on the off chance that i get stopped on the we are i could say hey let's go look at high showed very clearly that i walked in with insider. My nightmare is that i say let's check the security footage and they say now we don't need to how how can i convince them to go to the extra. Steps are going to the footage. Might you haven't seen the tom hanks. Was it bad it's it's been in my view. It's been my came out but i thought you thought that when i referred to it as his terminal movie that i was talking about philadelphia in the airplane shooting have adelphia was twenty years ago all the terminal. The concept is tom hanks plays. Where is he mike. Oh eastern on country. It's fake. It's fake countries of eastern. European country has a terrible accident. It's great. It's so it's just ridiculous. No it's so and who's the guy who's the manager of the airport who hates them but then they go probably sounds like a stanley tucci roy. Is it stanley tucci. I'll check on it might've uh-huh q. for fifteen years i'll get around to it didn't watch it so what is papers gone autozone another no so his country goes to war and somehow there's no one can go into the country or out of the country doesn't have the proper papers so he can't leave the <music> airport so he can't basically cross a certain line in the airport so yes to live in this airport because he can't go home and he can't come to the us the the thing is he. He's only in the u._s. On transit yeah and but he all flights his home country have been cancelled why we don't know why he's in the u._s. It's uncertainty as his little tin and we don't know what's in the ten and and they're trying to get the tin from him to find out what's in the teen wisely in the country. It's very confusing because that's what's in the tin. Oh you mean to tell you i. I don't think it's been fifteen years. Eh it stanley tucci. These show aimed free time for some ads. Put it on the pole. Guillermo at lebatardshow is terminal with tom hanks or is that was the name of it right. It was just terminal terminal. Ah terminal sounds like an action movie. Go one watson iger action. It would have been an action movie named terminal already terminal velocity was one sees harley. She was action. Sorry that was a phase. Maybe seals was good one. Yes keeps people. Keep your hair the hair that you have remaining with keeps. You're going to need that because many of you don't have hair remaining. How did this movie cost sixty million dollars to me. I actually know the answer to that because the airport that they filmed this was was totally constructed. It wasn't an existing airport. They built an airport car parts that you saw. It's a set shocking legitimately shocking. I know so much about this movie and you know who directed it steven spielberg. Oh aw it's why it's been in my queue for fifteen years <hes> billy one of the things that i find funding here now that you've come out of your andrew luck depression and malays there is no telling when you're gonna get excited about a subject i do not. I don't think terminal by tom hanks it would be the movie. The terminal terminal would be the movie that would get you engaged. You think somewhere like in california or like in a desert of arizona zona. There's just an airport that was built that i could stumble onto now yeah the hangar at palmdale regional airport palmdale california aw we know so much about this movie if you haven't watched it too much you don't need the watch donlevatar biggest morons in the history of radio stugatz. I like that sentence for the tombstone on this show biggest morons in the history of radio these live at our. I show with the stugotz on e._s._p._n. Radio what is the first name is at scott of that zolak below average quarterback for a couple of years <hes> that <hes> now does i think he does radio in new england. Evidently he was tweeting somebody <hes>. He was tweeting the other day about misbehaving or criticism. I'm of n._f._l. Players and didn't notice that the g._p._s. on his phone said dawn boulevard strip club. We'll be zolak in bertrand yup. Okay so <hes> if you want some zolak in your life castigating n._f._l. Players from the strip club check that out in the northeast at lebatardshow on twitter stugatz you guys we have polls from the last two days. Let's update 'em yet. The twitter balls brought to you by dollar. Shave club dollarshaveclub delivers the product you used a look feel and smell your best right right to your door plus with their handsome discount. The more you buy the more you save go to dollarshaveclub dot com slash dan for a special offer again at lebatardshow odd twitter as brock ever made you think eighty two percent of the audience said no. Did we just hear gronk realize that eddie cry. It was jarring jarring him. He's like crying onstage and it's like oh my god what's this ninety three percent of the audience the and said yes which hollowed song. Are you seeing a karaoke yet. Three choices private is rich girl man eater. I just learned someone. Someone just sent us that that hall the call notes emergency line it gets an average of two thousand calls a day out of here. I was stunned by that. I that can't be right white kennett call an oates. It's got four songs. It's hard to believe that in two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand calls a day who would have that information the people are the masterminds behind calling oates emergency hall and oates thirty nine percent of the audience said rich girl shocker right. That is a bit surprising to those. Mike ryan act like he's been in space. The arrogant condescension the sensation of space expert my grind. I've been in the nightclub too much. It can feel like you're drifting through space there ninety ninety one percent of the audience said yes. Do you ever call a phone number for scores back. When i was growing up we did we used. I have to call a number payphone with a quarter a dime back that oh my god what is going oh man. I'm back that seventy four percent of the audience said no they have never done that of boy scrolling up big fat white phase big fat white phase white phase boca lower lower or south pete sessions russians. That's great checking out here. We go was the best part of andrew looks good by the hello mike. Do you have that we've got to this was andrew. Andrew lock as the world was waiting with baited breath to hear from him to say goodbye. Hello ninety. Three percent of the audience said yes hello is bill belichick saying bless you to anyone who sneezes in his press conference eighty seven percent of the audience the ad said no that's life. That's not just football bless you. I'm honored as brian florez. Doing it now had goat. Are you surprised is it. The royals are worth more than a billion dollars. Who is it eighty. Two percent of the audience said yes. I guess eighteen percent has has to got to become hank goldberg over the last week or eighty. Five percent of the audience said yes what's more impressive benching four hundred pounds or making a pot out of fifty six percent of the audience billy. That'd make an a pot of clay that asks. Have you ever considered bracha genius eighty percent of the audience. It said no kyle mary decent heine sixty. Three percent of the audience said yes is bill. The thrill a grape i twitter handle fifty four percent of the audience said yes. If you boo somebody with twenty does in the boo. Does it demand more than one exclamation point. It certainly does eighty three percent of the audience agree. They said yes yes scrolling up here. Scrolling up kinds podcast really good check out. Let's see who you awards vote on that laboratory factor this graph here. I'm skipping over that one all right. Is there any point to getting divorced. At eighty five years old seventy eight percent of the audience said no. Should you be fondling tomatoes at the grocery store chris good news for you. Sixty one percent of the audience said yes surrey is the terminal. Tom hanks a great movie. We've never had consensus and it's early early in the voting process and by early on the only one who voted but one hundred percent of the audience has said yes. I voted. Yes you want to refresh <hes> gile through. We'll we'll come back to it in a second. Jason is bill on twitter. The <hes> the fantastic songwriter and musician asked the question. What's the worst thing you've ever spilled in your car and then he's got an answer. We gotta get to this tomorrow. Seventy one percent of the audience had no <hes>. Jason is bell the worst thing you've ever spilled in your car. He says mine was a full pint of baked beans.

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Hour 2: The Wizard of Oz

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Hour 2: The Wizard of Oz

"The. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. The power to save is in your hands. Snapshot from progressive reward your safe driving with discounts. Find out more progressive dot com. Guests on the Dan Dr Joe appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update, new raiders general manager, Mike Mayock yet that job may. Oh, you didn't know that? They are. Yes. Yes. Jon Gruden said who can I get let me go. Get someone who drafts players on television MacKenzie was pretty good at his job. It's going there with the understanding that Gruden has final call on everything television, man television. Get you power and money that was the end of the story, by the way Gruden has full power. Why isn't he may offer that oh just to help? Oh, yeah. Just for just to bring his special analysis. I believe may like Blaine gabbert over Cam Newton. I believe he did. Yes. Yep. But he was doing that thing. Like if someone come out and said Clinton's gonna blow out Alabama, I think may aqua shooting for the stars right there. But you don't do that thing when you're in the job. He's presently in Doughty's, the GM of the raiders. Cody Parke's game ending field goal has been changed from a misfield goal to a blocked kick with credit going to Trayvon Esther. And finally, Wayne Coyne the front man for the rock band. The flaming lips married his longtime partner this past Saturday during a ceremony and Oklahoma the happy couple did. So it style to celebrating their vows side of gigantic plastic bubble every flaming lips show sees Koyna walking out into the crowd via plastic bubble. So it's only right. He exchanged vows in the bubble. For all letters headlines information, tune in the sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. I know that many of us are going to be killing Nick Sabin and laughing at Nick Sabin today. But basically. It's a half football one half of football that took out some of the things that we thought about Nick Sabin. It's not even a full game sample site. Furthermore, if to turn the ball over didn't throw the last pass of last season people would be calling for Nick savings job right now for losing two in a row. Are you not familiar with Alabama football worked are you? Are you familiar with? How those all the people calling finebaum show if they lost the Kirby smart, then Daboh forget dead is dead on with this, man. They be calling for Nick Sabin. It'd be game passed him by. It'd be all that stuff in Alabama. It's one of the reasons that Nick Sabin every once in a while, you think you might be going to Texas or something because of how small Alabama is do you think Nick Sabin can go outside in Alabama. Don't go outside can can Nick Sabin do his own groceries in Alabama. I know he owns half of Alabama. So that's like uninhabited lands, and he can go outside their wants to do his groceries. I'm just saying connect Sabin do anything normal in public and Alabama without people without an onslaught of people because it's not just normal people. It's alabama. It's the fans in Alabama. Like, he is the deal with the devil. Is this you'll get to win everything? But every day when you go outside some two hundred seventy pound pink person is gonna balance against until you what you need to do on your defensive line. I think Nick enjoys that. I think he likes that. I think he does do normal things if I remember reading stuff he likes to go to the grocery store. He likes to go with his wife is a coupon guy. Everyday guy old school coupons though, he's cutting them out with scissors. He's he's arguing with the cashier. If they don't give him what he wants. He's crushing Bogo to. Oh, my God stocking up refer to two hundred and seventy pink guy. I think of Alabama people as being sunbird. No. Pink works, really, two minutes. Get out of your. Billy is few ding, get no, son. Billy is pig is when you get out. I don't need more commentary from you on this subject. The initial incompetence was enough. Billy is few ding Billy's feuding with clearance. Again. As is often the case he's been hunting down. Andrew lucked curse words. That's what he's been doing recently. A Billy that thing. I saw yesterday of Andrew lock saying occurs accidentally and then being super disappointed with himself like it. It was amazing to see Andrew luxury action of saying the word, you know, the expletive for feces realizing set it on television. And then just shame swept across and like, he disappointed his parents Manley, his mother, and like he spent a minute just sort of just sort of wallowing recruiting how bad that fellas. He trying to pull it back. Did he get the whole word out? Now, he he said, I'm sorry apologized. And then he drifted off with a faraway looking his eyes to contemplate how bad he felt upon further research. It seems like that may have not even been on television. I think that was an. Internet exclusive colts interview. So while it's not the best. It's not really that big of an issue that he cursed, but he was disappointed himself. He was in his luck. Didn't raise him saying. It was obvious on his face his level of disappointment with himself for saying interrupted the guys next question. Like right before you go on. I'm sorry about that. Like what I just did. Please forgive me. He injured lug is never going to have a real controversy in his life. He's to square. Did. You see him at a concert like jamming to back down. It was it won't back down, maybe the sun. But he was jamming it a concert, by the way. We're never gonna get that cleared either. Just so, you know, feuding with Clarence what's happening. You didn't want me to mention that. We're feuding with Clarence. But we're now we're feuding with clear. Well, the problem with feuding with clearance as if they know that we're feuding with clearance. Then we're never gonna get anything clear. So I don't think it's good to publicize, but it's very difficult to get things clear this very specific rules, which I understand because they don't wanna ruin relationship with the Colt. So like that for example, was a clip that the cult may or may not have deleted from the internet someone saved. And I went back to two thousand twelve looking for this. And I couldn't find it. So they don't wanna burn that bridge. Your of the belief that the Indianapolis Colts scrubbed out a curse word of Andrew luck. Because they don't want that stain on their resume when they've got an owner was caught with pills and cash and his car. All I'm saying is this a lot of investigating went into that clip. So the longer clips said that it was after a by week. So I started going back five years and seeing when they won a game before a buy week because. We're coming off a big win. This is your investigative report. This is you being that pharaoh kid that is winning all the awards for me to coverage. This is what you're doing with your life hunting down Andrew luck sound unsuccessfully. Well, I'd say it's less important what I'm doing than him. But so I went back five years to find out when did they win when was a big win before by? And then I went to their face because I figured out. That's where that background is. And I'm looking from wearing the same shirt talking same interview because they changed interviewers Dan from year to year. So I found the guy I couldn't find the shirt. And then I said, hey, wait a minute. I don't see this like November eighth two thousand sixteen where did it go on an hour. One. I don't know. But I haven't given up on this. Digging. We need to conduct investigation. I want you to break that story. Tell you become the new Schefter. Okay. Schefter is getting up there in years. He can't break every story. Here's where you come in and take some of his stuff. I want more Andrew luck in our lives. Do we have any Andrew lock sound that we can play Tom? Brady's gotta go through either. Andrew lock Philip rivers or Mahomes to get to the Super Bowl. Again. I do not believe he will do it. You shouldn't listen to me. I am wrong on all you said he was finished a decade show. Yes. I did the same thing about our Kelly. Transition time for so mats. Are you rooting for? Angela. You wanna stick around? Right. Just for. I'm most game say I am rooting before Philip rivers and Mahomes, the not luck that I don't wanna see the colts anymore. And I say that knowing that the colts have a very legitimate chance to make Andy Reid look postseason stupid again because of the specific advantages that they have in that game. Basically just running the ball like the way to beat that. If I tell you how do you beat Kansas City auto by home game most explosive offense probably in the league. How do you beat them off? A by the answer is at home the answer. Is haven't been cold have the conditions? Do something to the throwing game. And have it be a five yards carry average from your defensive line running up against a team that in the last ten weeks mall? Everybody along the front including that Texans defense. This. We. And that allow anybody here like this. These are the ingredients you need for luck to advance. But man, I do not wanna see luck playing New England again, I don't wanna see so cold, weather and more than MAC if all it helps it help. I what's the spread in that game. Is it the same spread is Clemson Alabama last night? Tell you would you be stunned if the colts due to the chiefs because the chiefs cannot play defense and a half it's the same spread. It's the same spread Vegas telling ya five and a half even mean anything in the NFL. I it means it for betting, but in terms of an upset to God's team is a five and a half point underdog. How much of an upset is it actually when that team win? Not a big upset at all. Because you usually get three points for being at home. If you're the better team with the better record. So no, not a big upset at basically, basically, given the common advantages. The chiefs are getting two and a half points above the standard that ain't much. If the colts upset the chief is safe to say, they got the right guy. See yourself to the penalty. Donlevatar? I mean, Charlie hustle. Come. I it's it all starts with us. Stugatz. You are really going to summon the biggest Jenner in the history of the sport. That's one of the few guys. We know have bet on or around baseball in his team as the guy should symbolize purity of hustle. Didn't. They call him. Charlie hull. That guy sprinted down the line every time, right and also hustle. You're out of your money in a con- outside of the hall of thing wrong with that Charlie hustle is exactly what you will find in a sweat suit in front of a Vegas hotel selling his autograph because he's banned from every sports thing that they have in baseball that welcomes back Mark McGwire Barry Bonds, and everyone except him VC's live at our show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio. So have you guys noticed how sophisticated it really is something that has happened in sports volition that has happened in sports that must be taken for granted by the viewer. The way these football games are televised. I saw some stuff yesterday over the weekend where pylon Cam was helping decide whether or not something was a touchdown or not in the ball was just being placed right in front of that camera. That's in the pylon. And they went to it. Immediately. If you don't know how hard it is to get all that stuff to you in real time. Because if there's a hiccup you're gonna complain about it for a month, and they're using these cameras that are flying over the field and giving you the angles from above and stuff the the sophistication of the television broadcast is like ofensive lineman. You only notice it when they've done something wrong. But the way these games are televised this weekend, you're not gonna get it wrong on something at the goal line. When you have a pylon camera right there showing you as the ball makes its way over there. It's inches. It's got a better pylon. Cam has a better view than anyone on the field of what's happened. It happened last night Damian Harris they've ruled it a touchdown. They took it back by wife said to me how does the referee standing right there. How does he miss that? I'm like, ABBIE, it's an inch. They went to the pylon Cam. And then she saw it. And I'm like ABBIE that pylon Cam has a better view than the referee. Who was standing right there. It's we all do we all the better view. It's a pretty cool. Evolution of the sport. But because we have a better view these rafts have no chance no chance. Because now we're sitting there on a couch with her hand, they're on where wait a minute. They should have seen that even though every human being on the field. It's faster than anyone you've ever meant. I want less options. These more camera shots confuse me even more than they did before. I just wanna take the rest word for it. You're the closest whatever you say goes because they get confused. I don't know the rules. Does that look like it's out of his hand. He has one finger on it. If it goes in the end zone. It's a touchback, but it broke the plane while he had a finger on it still. So it's a touch it's super confusing. It's eliminated the in moment celebration, the emotion, it has it really has its ruined that for sports feds. I don't think it's ruined it. But I do think I've told you before I find this a bit exasperatingly, hyper examinations of inches when it's fairly arbitrary. How you know? These referees are marking the ball almost every down. They're pretty good at it. They market generally pretty correctly. But there's a lot of randomness. And what it is that you're watching, and I can't believe that we were sitting here yesterday to guns, and we were crushing the ravens, and how can you go with Lamar jacks? And that's a very limited offense. But if that play with the pylon Cam and Melvin Gordon the play where he fumbled. It looked like right before the end zone to ice the game. And Baltimore took what looked like a fumble ninety nine yards. If that had been an inch short of the goal line San Diego season might be done today. That's the difference in this game. It's a game of inches. Then f engine would amazes me is the judge. Position joke said Greg between what? You just were trying to get to your point. You didn't hear what's too. For like a second half, you sound horrible. I could barely hear what you're saying. I know sounds like Marlon Brando. That Honey or something somewhat Honey throat. No drinking water doing all. I can't help it. Well, I'm drinking water. I'm doing all. I can again, right? What else you do? I'm not smoking a cigarette on the air. I mean, I'm taking care of it. I want you to do is get out of here and go. Three times today. I mean, Greg it's the only thing I could do to compensate for how distracting it is that you sound like you're dying on air. Like, the only thing I can do is continually sent you away. Because you shouldn't be here sounding like that. It does have me paying attention to everybody says because I could be as last. I'm gonna make off he can't. How Hooley bleep how what just happened? There. Went into the impersonation arsenal is something none of us obscene in fifteen years. That is straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless. There's you like coverage unamerican. Most the bendable four G LT. Donlevatar Tange ridiculous. You did. I know is a terrible Barclay and preserve heard before it was just sweet nominee still God's really guys. Wanna try all your Barclays terrible idea. That's been good. That's better. Anyone else wanna get in on the bidding Ernie their little idiot too. But again, I don't want to go after that kidding kidding. Those midi. Thank you. Tell you fed daddy. I hate him. Chris once again surprise live at our show with this to God's own ESPN radio. I wanna talk to you about a couple of things that we missed over the break. Did you see what appeared to be marshawn Lynch trying to light a joint on Al Davis attornal flame? Now is that'll shop that was photo shopped because you can imagine happening. Could you not? Yes. But I think that's why it's Photoshop today. It's believable. What happens when the raiders leave the eternal flame go out because then it's not an eternal flame, wouldn't they move. The eternal flame move it over to Las Vegas. Can you move in attornal flinch that sacrilege, you know, how many things will be smoked off of that attornal flame in Vegas? You can't move into terminal. You can't move it. Attornal? What do you mean ruled the flame needs to stay alive? Can't you would you have to actually keep it on as in transit. Oh, yeah. You need to do a procession from Oakland to Las Vegas. The Olympic torch. You have to have people running from stop to stop to getting into Vegas who does it who's on that list of people? Who you have someone running from from? Yeah. Like, the Olympic torch, you have to run and you have to hand it off like the way Newton you say. Wow. You think finishes with Wayne? Thanks. But you need you need hundreds and thousands of people. Do you not like, yeah? I mean, the Olympic torch is run around the world. I one person, Dan. Thank be ridiculous. I appreciate the Olympic torch is portable isn't the eternal flame, a big cauldron. Like, a more of a a giant flaming urn. Will they can be moved because John F Kennedy's eternal flame was move recently. So they can't be minister knew that off the top of his head by the light. Didn't look it up. There was no research there. He's just got an impressive data library of when attornal. Flames have been moved. You'd have someone, you know, light of baton or whatever from the eternal flame, the flame is still alive. But torch yet torch there you go. That's a good word. So you have a torchlit from the eternal flame. And then you pass the torch in maybe that's where that came. Are you asking are you asking me who should be doing it like who who's running it out of Oakland? Tim brown. Wow. That's a good one Marcus Allen that's going, but the people running it out of Oakland. They want to keep that alive and get to Vegas or do. They wanna put it out. Well, like with protesters and the Olympic flame, people can come and try and put it out, for example, like Ling Tiffin would try to do that right lane. Kiffin would try to put out the flames enough for sure for sure right? Who else would try to snuff? The flame an act of protest against the raiders. Like who are the raiders, mortal enemies it used to be Tagliabue's? I could see marshawn running along the flame the whole time making sure no one snuffs it through skittles. Mort. Oh, you got the Mortenson sound back there that is one of the greatest press conferences in the history of sports was the late Al Davis at that point. He was speaking gibberish, and he seemed crazier than even usual as the most Letitia man in the history of the NFL crazier than usual. He was going everywhere in a tracksuit. And yeah, you know, and this press conference he was so mad at Linkin that he came out with microfiche, and he was showing on like he microphone just of. About this this happened during the social media era came out with. Microfiche all technology enriches at his disposal and just trying to bury lane kiffin Mortenson. I'm guessing the majority of our audience what micro featured put that on the poll. Alison, please do you know, what microfiche is Lexus nexus or something like that? Do you have the whole sound because that is L Davis? He ripped Chris Mortensen. He was going up and down in the way that he said Mortenson funny. Yes, it's the syllable count and the cadence Billy played again for me, please the syllable count and the cadence on Mortenson is pretty much comedic immediately. Perfect mortenson. Like when I frame it to you. This is a person whose houses haunted, and he's probably got a night somewhere in his house. And I don't mean like just the night norm. I mean, somebody actually from that time who's just there and embalmed because he had that kind of money Mortenson. Just one after mort and lane kiffin see much more of that press conference. You can get us for the young people who don't remember that glorious time in our lives. This was before the mattress started burning lane kiffin at Tennessee, right, which speaking of which by the way in terms of coaching movement. Have you seen some of the details on what's going on with cliff Kingsbury? Yeah. I know the jets are going to interview him, but USC was blocking him from any interviews for for a while for a couple of days. I guess this one is interesting on a number of different fronts, including the legal front because. Lynn Swann athletic director, legendary football name wasn't granting permission. But the buyout is so small that Kingsbury much handled himself. What is the bio I've gotta look it up. I'm sorry. I don't have the answer to that. Whatever it is though Kingsbury can afford to pay himself to get out of the contract. But why wouldn't you allow first of all the whole thing's weird because why would a thirty five and forty coach not wait for a minute. A guy was thirty five and forty at Texas Tech. Who is part of this newfangled young thinking explosive offenses spread the field. Why wouldn't that person? Wait. Why would why would that person take the, you know, the the job? And then all of a sudden say now is it because more more and more people began covet him. And he didn't realize what his I don't think he realized how coveted he was as resumes that great. And then US's is saying hey, offense coordinator with a coach, by the way, who many people feel it should have been fired after last season's maybe Kingsbury. The next guy in line though, and the seven or eight openings now, which is even for the NFL is a lot. What do you do with the whose fault is this? Well, the colleges shouldn't have a rule disallowing their coach from willing to take NFL why they have the rules for the players. Why like I like I like that Lynn Swann is actually trying to hold somebody to an adult authority hold someone to a contract. I wouldn't like it. If it was me. But I like that Lynn Swann actually treating the coach the same way. He treats the players, but I think their different jobs, though, they're different ocupation. You know, they're both football coach, but one is at a different level. You can't tell a college coach going to the NFL isn't a promotion. I know, but he's he just signed lichner stand that he should have to pay whatever the buyout. I agree with that. I agree in the by. I'm wondering how high would have to be for him not to pay it like, you know, if it's a million dollars because he could still afford that. Would you still by yourself out at a chance for the thing that I'm more fascinated by is just the idea of cliff Kingsbury fired at Texas Tech? They were nowhere program while he was there. He's very handsome. But they didn't do much of anything. They didn't. They don't have. They have one game that you remember they beat Texas with Michael Crabtree. And I'm pretty sure that was pre Kingsbury like it was. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't do much, but they had a handsome coach on the sideline though. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you as a jet fan. I desperately want him if we're going to be this lousy and isn't barricading we might as well have a cool good-looking head coach on the sideline. He's going to own that town on a good name as well. He's got a lot going on form at the part that I find funny is resumes. Not one of right like. What what kind of response? Very good talk donlevatar gonna get real. Stugatz. I'll get real these live at our show with this to God's own ESPN radio. I feel like Allison has arrived in a place where she hates the poll questions because she has to go back and forth, and check them and make sure there aren't any mistake. She's neurotic. I love the Polk to you. Okay. Then put this one on there, would you mind because this is from a Twitter, and I want it. They're just like this Sabin doesn't need to groceries because of the human save in no longer exists. He had a heart attack and died on the sideline some time ago. Bama just took his skin and stretched it across a pre-programmed robot. That is always angry when it smiles it's malfunctioning. Yes. Or no, take me. Take me. Tolls are stressful. So prising Lee stressful because you're a writer, and we're writing these on your behalf, and I'm always worried about looking literate because there's very simple things that I don't know how to do anymore because computers and phones of made it very simple, for example. I'm not sure how to spell laser. I don't know. How to spell laser? It seems like a simple word that you would learn in like third or fourth grade. I'm not sure if it's Z or an S is there an e or an, oh, I'm not sure it's Z. How did you discover that you did not know how to spell laser? What were you? What were you talking about? Lasers. Obviously. I was writing you're talking about lasers at a certain point. I was going to take someone about lasers, maybe laser technology. If I were to think, it probably had to do with some sort of medical tests, not Bill as you know, maybe like the diseases that I could get as a result of being exposed to lasers. And then I didn't know how to spell it. And it was really embarrassing. It happens to be a lot. But lasers like the most recent one that I can remember Alison Greg Cote is back in my day is going to be in fifteen minutes. But Alison, I'd like you to explain something me as someone who loves Billy and finds him as funny as we all do why can he be in flashes? That competent where he just hits me with a lasers obviously that quickly and he can't make a life decision of any kind without it being soiled in fear. I mean, I hate him and I had door at the same time. So. We're so irritating. But yet sometimes he throws some of those which are funny, and they'll hit you like. All three seconds laugh at that. Because when I asked him doing with lasers lasers, obviously still don't notice. But lasers, by the way. This hasn't been entirely helpful. How laser it's L A S E R U wants. Give words to spell things. You've forgotten. How to do not you your smile? The answer's no, Billy. There are no words. I don't know how to spell question. I know how to spell the mall any language anyway. Did he really just? I know what every word means. And how it spelled it's weird. But it's a great talent of mine. I'm surprised we're just discovering it now, I've never misspelled anything. Can can you guys? Give me some information before I start talking about this about whether or not ESPN is doing some advertising for luxury cruises to Cuba because I'd like to I haven't looked it up. But some people have been writing to me saying, how do you feel about this? And we've talked about Cuba a lot on the show. My parents are exiles everything. That's you know, that we do around here creatively. Born of the freedom. They came to get in this country. And a lot of stuff about Cuba's hugely heartbreaking, including people are still going back today. And it's still a disaster. And that money that comes from normalized relations. You know, they're stuck in the fifties. Still dilapidated every time somebody comes back from Cuban I talked to them they're just profoundly sad. Because what they remember, isn't what's there anymore. And so maybe over time American money pouring into their will help the people, but the fear of Miami Cubans is that they will never be helped that the money that is being shared by normalized relations will never actually go to the people. Do you believe they'll be a time? Like, I don't know. I don't believe much of anything that comes off that island much of anything like it's a it's a propaganda machine. And the only thing I believe is word of mouth from people who have been there. And it's a big issue in Miami. Where the show was based obviously because the owner of the Miami Heat is owner of a cruise ship. Funny, but I can't quibble with if relations normal normalized people grabbing money from it. I mean, we sit here and take money from draft kings and things that are gambling entities. Advertising. Carries this stuff and I can object to it. It can hit me wrong emotionally, but I can't construct a rational argument for why it is that. We shouldn't advertise. In a time when revenue is going down on advertising time when media all media's fighting over the advertising dollar, and you've got people all over the place in new media fighting for the advertising, I think people would say if you take those dollars make sure just make sure the money's going to the right places in Cuba. But he SPN can't control that I know. But that's not. Yes, you're right pant can't control anything except to not take money from people. They don't want money from which is something that we would do an instances. But why would we do it on this one? I mean, we flew over there with Obama to broadcast nationally a baseball game, and this company like most companies is searching for extra oil wells wherever it is that they can be found. That's why everybody in sports is running. I don't understand that. I wasn't even dangerous water. What happened? What happened is the magic creative content. Started playing music that any water can be dangerous. And what? He's right about that about it. Any water can be dangerous never know. Drown abet up. What does that have to do with anything? You are only contributions today are water related you earlier in the show wondered why calling Joe flacco washed was a bad thing. Given that when you are washed you feel good about yourself to set. Trevor Laurence's negative looking. So here it is from the crate of the magical crate of content to minutes. What's your all time favorite movie? And how many times have you seen it? That's a difficult question for me. It isn't everybody. Who knows me knows answer swing vote wizard of Oz. Baby. What about thirty times the worst movie in though, wizar- of vise horrible movie, I'm like traumatized by that movie? I mean, how many times have you watched the Greg there at least thirty ones the last time. You watched it probably within a year. Does it always end the same? It does every movie ever watch the godfather indifferently, wait. I wanna hear Allison's issue with this movie. Eight or Stitz creepy the whole like thirty. Therefore, the music. The whole thing is creepy. Like never know. They're off to see the wizard though, the wonderful was a wicked witch much creepy. Monkeys everything about it is great. I don't believe Greg is seen this movie in like fifteen years. He says seen it the year. He's at thirty times last time he saw it was with within a year this two movies. I watch every single year without fail wizard of Oz in it's wonderful life and zuzu in the pedals. I mean, it's just those movies man, never seen the it's a wonderful life. Greg. What you have not. Now, why not I I have no desire. Wonder why have you you haven't seen diehard, and you've seen a wonderful life to the hard part of it is, you know, five now then last six diehard, but how haven't you seen it? It's a classic every Christmas you need to watch it. Everything's giving after the parade. I don't need to watch. It come on Alison why he's school. Greg Cody on the ESPN radio.

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Hour 2 - Kurt Warner (08-26-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

49:37 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2 - Kurt Warner (08-26-19)

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It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. What are you talking about. Paperclips shoulder shrug high five wizard hat. What geico coke fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more broadcasting from the mercedes men k. Hello world. I'm back. This is dan patrick. <hes> <music> hope you had a great weekend. We had a great week off glad to be back and some topics to dive into which we did in the first hour if you're just joining us andrew luck has decided added to call it a career. We'll talk to kurt warner. The hall of fame joan is coming up dan dockage. He's a radio host in indianapolis for her college basketball player and coach and he was taking dead aim at andrew lock quitting on the colts. We'll talk to him coming up a little bit later on so andrew. Luck retires at the ripe old age of twenty nine eight seven seven three d._p. Show <hes> let's see email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle at d._p. Show anything else. I left down here. We say good morning to our radio and t._v. Partners by the way we start in philadelphia mclovin you ask for it. You got it. We will be in philadelphia philadelphia fox sports radio one two point five the gambler and you can check out everything that they have to offer and we hope to provide some power to that line line up in the morning on philadelphia's radio station fox sports radio new two point five the gambler. You're welcome mclovin. I prepared my daily bryce harper reporter. It is bryce harper on paternity just so he his wife had a baby and he left for the weekend and miss a few games which i don't even want to talk about those games but he's back today apparently reportedly but he was red hot to go over in philadelphia. You know there wasn't right now. Everyone is about the eagles there wasn't. I didn't see any negative reaction. People were okay with her. Like you know what she's having a baby. He should be and he's been hitting well yeah. He's been hey well. Of course it is a phillies. They were up eleven four in the marlins and lost nine thousand nine to eleven so i don't know but yeah i was surprised because i would think that some people at this point the season would criticize him for that typical millennial focused kid and the wife over the health team yeah. I don't know if he's a millennial. He might be a little the young he might be generation z. Wait as millennial twenty eight. There is some i saw twenty five to twenty eight rangers different different evidence race harper's twenty-five rights. He's right on the cusp. He might be generations. He and i have no idea what they're up to. Does anyone know what they do know. I don't know that well. I'm learning that because because i have twenty one twenty four twenty six soon to be twenty eight. I'll let you know what what that's all about here. Well you know the millennials yeah i do. We know your twenty. Year old is right in the heart. He's right in the heart of being a millennial and doug gottlieb sent out this tweet. I think he was trying trying to be funny when he was talking about andrew lock saying this is so typical of the millennial to do this and everybody came after doug. I'm assuming he was trying to be funny. I hope he was trying to be funny. I don't know if i could cast these. Persians on all millennials would walk away from this situation like andrew luck did here is andrew lock talking about one fact making his announcement that he was retiring this. Certainly i wasn't how i envisioned this plan this <hes> but amion retire <hes> this is not an easy decision <hes> honestly it's the hardest decision in my life off but it is the right decision for me for the last four years or so i've been in the cycle of injury pain rehab injury injury pain rehab and and it's been unceasing unrelenting both in season both on and off season and i felt stuck in it and the only way i see out <hes> as is to no longer play football. It's taken my joy of this game away. I also wanna play this one and two days. This is the fourth worth andrew luck response here where he didn't imagine that he was going to be retiring. A couple of weeks ago. Never could've imagined walking away from football age twenty twenty nine yeah i. I'll be honest imagine retiring when i didn't measure retired till two weeks ago so now i didn't think of it in that right now. Okay makes me wonder and i've talked about this injury where it was a calf and then it sort of benign you know he got a calf injury and then all all of a sudden kevin durant atta calf injury and then you go okay and i said at the time and i still believe there's there's more to this injury. I don't know what it is then and you had the owner jim irsay well. You know too high ankle okay. It is their surgery involved in this. Let what happened in the last two weeks for andrew luck. Are you going to play in pain during the season. I don't know if that was the doctor prognosis on this. I was told andrew locked talk to the cold months ago about this. I don't know if you sometimes just send up the trial balloon and just go. Hey i'm having these thoughts and as i've been told numerous times by players if you think about retiring then retire. You're already retiring hiring if you think about it. I don't know what he's gone through. I looked at the injuries. I looked at everything he's gone through as far as rehab a lacerated had kidney the shoulder surgery. They finally got a good offensive line. They they've got talent that wide receiver positions. They got a good defense here. You got a good coach. You've got momentum there. You have everything so what is missing here. This just andrew luck. Hey you grew up with money. You grow up in a family. Okay that took care of everything and now all of a sudden you go. I can walk away. I've made my money yeah. There's a lot of different vantage points on this. I can't get in andrew luck's head and understand what he's processing having rehabbed with five knee surgeries and then replacement and then my shoulder being done with a torn labrum i that's just me a normal person and it wears on you. This is a guy who all eyes were on him when you come calf injury you know you're supposed to be ready to play. He wasn't gonna be ready to play for week one. How how many weeks was he going to have to rehab before he was ready. I don't know but you know. I'm not questioning his toughness. I can't question his toughness. People are but what he's gone through and come back from it. I would never question your toughness the decision to do it now if i'm. I'm a local. If i'm a colts fan yeah angry at you. I want you there. You know we got this big season ahead. I understand your frustration in your disappointment. There i get all of that but now everybody has an opinion and sometimes it may not have something to do with andrew lock. It has something to do with you. Everybody's got their opinion opinion on andrew luck. I don't know him. It seems like he beautiful marches to the beat of a different drummer. I respect that if he wants to walk away he walks away. We'll move on. We moved on with barry sanders. We moved on with tony romo. We moved on with calvin johnson. We moved on with jim. Jim brown we move on every single day. We move on and we'll move on from this now. Colts fans will have a what could have been. You've gone from fifteen to one odds to win the super bowl to thirty to one odds to win the super bowl. Will they make a trade. Can you make a trade. What what do you do. Is jacoby perset going to be your future. Are we going from ten and six two six and ten now now all of a sudden the a._f._c. south got really really interesting for the wrong reasons but andrew lock. I wish him well and and you know what we'll move on from this. You might have somebody who has when it when it's a quarterback and i said this five years ago when chris borland elon decided to retire former wisconsin linebacker played for the niners had a wonderful rookie year and he said i'm walking away and i they set the time if this when a quarterback does this in his prime then we'll take note in here we are. This wasn't head injuries. At at least i don't know i don't think andrew lock has been a concussion guy. He said other injuries but i don't think this is you know p._t._s._d. I don't think so but borland retired and said i don't wanna put my brain through this. I don't want to put my body through this and i said well when a quarterback does is this and borland hasn't been paid hadn't gotten paid yet. Andrew luck gotten paid and that's another problem that people will look at this and i understand all of this us. It's everybody wants to have an opinion but you you you can't put yourself in that position and try to understand it because we don't process at the way andrew luck does or the way calvin johnson did i remember having heart felt conversations with barry sanders about what what he did. I said perry you just rushed for whatever he did. Fifteen hundred yards and i got the phone call from his agent. Saying peter shaffer said berry is on a flight. I was doing sportscenter that night. Berries on a flight to london. He's retiring and i ago what and he said yes. He's just tired of losing now. Berry never got hurt. Berry didn't have serious serious. Injuries berry just said i don't wanna play anymore. I buried didn't love football. Berry was very good at football. He loved basketball. Jim brown said done everything i can do. I'm going to act he went from getting. I think sixty thousand dollars that season with the browns where i think he ran for eighteen eight hundred dollars in fourteen games and he said i'm gonna make a movie. You got paid one hundred twenty five thousand dollars to make dirty. Doesn't i think that was the movie that he went into hollywood calvin johnson. Is anybody calling him a quitter but andrew luck is a quitter. Apparently i think one thing that a lot of fans reacted to is calvin. Johnson was on the terrible team table. Franchise barry sanders retired because he's sick a losing andrew. Luck is on the cusp of the second half of his career. That's this is what i think a lot of people think and he seemed to be out of the injury. You know window. He's on a team that protects them. Everything's things going well and now like if he'd done this twelve months ago. You'd like okay well. That makes sense. He's the shoulder came in through a pass to the flat new but it when we don't know the ankle injury right but appears like that's what's shocking. You have team around you. That's threatening and now you do it. I'm surprised that more players don't do this that you go through. All these injuries you you know. We have chris simms on the show all the time chris. Simms nearly died on the football field but if i said to him hey would you do it again. He's going to do it again and i go back to what eric dickerson said to us the hall of fame running back when he was with us in los angeles and i'd never heard eric say this before but boy it stayed with me. He said i spent two years sleeping in a recliner because of my neck and my back he he looked great. He said people always go. Oh yeah you look like you could still play. He goes. They don't understand what happens. You know. These guys have gone through horrific injuries but in our mind hey you're taking away something from my sport. Hey i got my fantasy to that's the reaction. How could you do this. How could you do this. I have all of those emotions and understand all of those emotions but i don't understand his emotion where he says is. I'm going to walk away. It's not in my d._n._a. That i would do that but he is probably being smart whereas i would go play through it because we always play through it. You're supposed to play through it. Come on get out there. If it's not broken not bleeding get out there. He just probably said <music>. I'm tired. I don't wanna do this anymore. And i have to respect it. I may not like it. I have to respect it and beyond the physical if you're depressed oppressed then it's just emotionally exhausting. You just can't do it anymore. Forget about what you can do or not do from a physical standpoint where it may be affecting your personality or your relationships with family of friends where you just. I can't deal with any more than that could put you over the top to not planning. It's gone away on you. If you've ever gone through rehab in it just feels interminable in your alone own when you do it and you know all the all eyes are on you the expectations wherever you go on kevin durant gonna get this. Kevin durant is going go. Oh through a and maybe he's going through a really depressive part of his life because you're not gonna play. You're going to be walking. You don't know what you're going to be like like. When you're you come back. Everybody's gonna say when you coming back no matter where you go hey how's the achille a when you coming back this entire season. He's going to be asked that and he's supposed to bring all this hope to the nets andrew luck. Was that gun. Do i like that. He walked out when he walked out no. I don't know what happened over the last two two weeks. That would have given him this clarity where he says that's it. I'm done because that is a that's a big step from. I'm thinking about this too. I'm doing it and that's what was really surprising. Lucan indianapolis leads us off this <hes> this morning high luke dan <hes> season ticket holder andy <hes> little frustrating more so with the timing more so than the decision <hes>. I think this happens earlier in the off-season. It's a little easier to stomach and i think if he fiamme maybe a little more serious injury easier to stomach but when he goes out there pre-game against the browns and he goes through the whole warmup routine he looks completely ready to play football when he tells peyton manning during the joint practices that he's probably going to be out there week one and then all of a sudden retires and say it's due to injury. It's kinda hard to stomach yeah. I get it luke. I understand your frustration. Did you boo andrew luck on saturday night. Thank you luke yeah. It's a small group and i understand you know. Those fans were probably neabry. It'd have been there the entire game and then you find this out and then you see andrew lock and then you voice your displeasure. I i understand that would have liked to have known this say april. When maybe he started wanted to have some doubts like before the draft i could have done something in the off season yes but when you just go you know what this is the moment and then i'm done and i don't know if it happens that way because normally athletes. You have to pull the jersey off them. Tom brady wants to continue to play playing the the same position. The same sport drew brees same way aaron rodgers with somebody. I didn't know would play as long as he's is playing. I just thought that maybe there was some i see almost aaron. Rodgers is is sort in that category with andrew lock like they're just different. They're wired differently ben rothlisberger. That's his identity. He wants to continue to play philip rivers. He loves it. I don't know oh you know certain guys in. It sounds strange. You can be really good at something but you don't want to do it or you. Don't you don't want to do it. As long as people would think <hes>. You've got the owner saying he turned down what half a billion dollars by <unk> which i don't think that that's true but he turned down probably another contract on-track one more contract. It's a hall of fame career mean. He had the trajectory of being a hall of famer. They could have been a super bowl. They were super bowl contender. He was comeback player player of the year. They finally got an offensive line. All of the things were in place if you said that this was the same offensive line a couple years ago and all you had was t. y. Hilton and i could say yeah i get it. I understand that frustration totally but this that's what's surprising is it felt like he had everything he had momentum there with a team and they protected him. I think he was sacked a few times eighteen times last year sure but the timing of this is what i don't understand and hopefully we'll get some clarity on like what happened in the last two weeks. What's the diagnosis if they they said hey you know what this is partially torn something. There's more surgery here. I understand but it felt like something happened here. I think he's been mulling this over for quite some time from what i'm told. He's been thinking about this for quite some time. <hes> chattan iowa joins us chad would do you have for me. Hey dan <hes> first time long time listening <hes> six five to seventy. I just wanted to talk about how andrew luck retiring. I was actually probably one of the best things he could have done for the team by saving all that money that he would have collected as being part of the team and they're collecting a check without actually playing okay. I didn't look at it that way yet but thank you chad you know the money ramifications here. I don't think they're going after his signing. Bonus mclovin does it. They said that he can have this twenty four million. Which of course the conspiracy theorists said oh. It's something happened here where their medical staff screwed up happen. They don't want him coming at them for some who knows like you said there's still feels like there's another shoe to fall. There's something colts fan. Are you calling and asking for a refund fund season tickets. I don't know how ugly this gets how angry they are but the timing of this is you know troubling troubling. I think if i'm a colts fan yes mclovin yes but every you're not gonna get a discount right. No no no. I have a question if you might have addressed this already but if if they had known in march two kobe percents so would have been the guy there. He seems to be well thought of yeah. I guess he and lock have a great relationship rate friendship but i think he's a backup quarterback. I saw some headlines this off season. We'll teams try to trade for perset well. They tried last year yeah to make him a petit at least compete. He's big yeah. I just i don't think he viewing him as an elite starter in the league i i. I don't know i don't know there. There's a whole lot riding. Jacoby said no man yeah polling by the way there's a left turnabouts watching a little marcus mariota the other day. That's no it's. I think it's done done yeah i do like i remember when i said two weeks ago. I think ron tanny hills you starter. Mclovin mclovin does ryan tanny on here and i don't think the fans are going to have a problem with it. I think the fans on their been pretty patient and they got a high end backup in theory jerry i think they're i think they're ready to move on there. I really do i think i think they are take kurt. Warner will join us. More of your phone calls best and worst leads to the weekend. We'll give you hours in the final hour. These dan dockage flame thrower. He didn't mince words with his criticism for andrew luck calling him out and he'll join us as well eight seven seven three d._p. 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App or the sound of your voice you could even stay connected to your family and friends with the a._d._t. Go app including location sharing driving activity alerts and an emergency esa westbound that's a._d._t. Real production brought to you by a._d._t. To more of your phone calls best and worse to the weekend which saw shaw july you didn't like and mclovin you got the update on our poll. Question will andrew luck return. It's shifted now. Seventy four percent say no what happened in the last hour that they've shifted from sixty four percent saying yes to seventy four percent saying no. I think the early voters are probably probably still still hung over from last night. Out people like the rational explanation is that he won't come back but i've been convinced the course of the show that maybe it's possible now because it's eligible. I didn't realize how quickly he came to this decision. Two weeks ago. He might not have done this so feels like i don't know he could change his mind but what happens when you submit submit your retirement papers yep if he wanted to return i think after this process plays out if he wanted to return next season he would have to clear waivers which i don't know if that what exactly that means but i think other teams could lay claim to him yeah. That's why i was wondering has he submitted his retirement papers yet. Remember far there was all sorts of shenanigans against had to trade him to the jets and that's why he went to the jets as the packers control them. I believe through all remember course course people. Do you wanna know if we've retired the andrew luck impersonation paperwork and timely fashion ring in the hall of famer n._f._l. Network analyst kurt warner warner who joins us now a little bit of a shocker there on saturday. What was your first reaction cart. I mean i think it was like everyone else's i mean i. I don't think anybody saw all this coming. <hes> you know especially at this age at this time we all assume that <hes> no matter what happened this year that he would continue to kind of work through it so i think we're all surprised but at the same time when you hear him <hes> having been through different situations in the league. I completely understand it. Do you think there's something else that we're missing dissing here. I don't <hes> i. I really think that the bottom line <hes> with the game is that you know so. Many people get into the game 'cause they. They love the game and then there always seems to be a time when the other stuff starts to outweigh the love for the game. You know the sunday afternoons. Nobody stops loving but it's the preparation it's the off season and with andrew luck you know it intensifies with all the rehab and all the pain and you're never ever healthy to be able to just show up and enjoy what you're doing and i just think it's it's going on for so long. That just like you said used to love the game now. Everything else seems to outweigh my love for the game and it and it makes it hard to get up every week going okay. Here's my week. I gotta they go to rehab for two hours then go through all day and then i got to rehab again and you know hopefully by sunday. I'll be able to play pain free and do what i love to do but it's always in the back of your mind or you're always playing hurt and then you add the expectations i think of now it's going to be back out there. He needs to be back out there. This team needs and the teams championship type team and the pressure of going. I'm still not healthy. What the heck do i do. Now you know do i go and play anyways. Even though i know i'm not one hundred percent or do i let this thing kind of play out and then i hear everybody saying well. He should be out there. Why is he not out there. I see him doing drills and doing this. He looks like he's good enough to be out there. I just i think it weighs on your mind. You know for so long and it's been going on for a number of years now that i think he's just kind of like i'm tired of dealing with all the other stuff more than then. I'm dealing with actually playing and doing what i love doing what i don't understand. I don't know if you can help me understand this but you see he just. It feels like he made an abrupt decision in here. He's the guy deep thinker you know two weeks ago he talked about he got depressed going through all this rehab. That was the first that was the light that went on for me. When i went oh wow okay. I didn't expect to hear that from him and then when he said that i thought all right but he's healthy now or healthier now good offensive line super bowl contender so something it feels like happen for you to make a decision. That feels like you made a snap judgment here. Yeah i mean i mean i understand exactly what you're saying. Because i think a lot of times we have those feelings as you said it comes to a point where like i. I'm just gonna retire and then you gotta take some time and really think about about it and think about the long term. Is this really what i want four or five years from now to not be playing this game that i love but i have to believe that you know even though he said he really kinda sat down and thought about it. I believe this was weighing on his mind. <hes> for a long period of time and i think maybe you get two weeks to the season and everybody's expecting you to play and i wonder if that plays into it a little bit as well like. I don't think i'm gonna be out there for week. One and you know. I don't wanna have to tell everybody the you know. I don't know how long it's gonna go on and we're going week to week that you just kinda go i. I'm just gonna retire and let the team move on and move forward <hes> and i'll kind of get some closure on this <hes> and be able to step away from it but i think it does lend itself and you guys were talking about your you know your poll question. I think it does lend itself south to okay if you made that decision and it's because you're not feeling good right now. You're only twenty nine years old really opened up the door for twelve months from now when you actually he seems really good and no you can still play this game <hes> to try to come back and play and and what does that mean <hes> if you go about it this way talking to hall of famer kurt warner. You can see him every sunday on n._f._l. Networks n._f._l. Game day morning at nine a._m. Eastern starting september eight. I'm curious and you being in arizona this whole clapping with cuyler murray and the cardinals what what what am i missing here that they're doing something illegal i. I don't think you're missing anything. You know i actually got a video from their their media director <hes> just yesterday and it was comparing things that other quarterbacks have been doing the last last couple years with clapping and the kind of the gyrations back there in the shotgun to kind of murray did in the preseason game i got called for and his is way way less than what some of these other guys doing sam darnold josh allen and so i was with you i went back and watch the tape over and over again going okay what am i missing here and then they actually got called and it was actually humbly but he got called for his leg. I mean this past weekend. I mean he just lifted his leg. Nothing i i don't know what we're missing. If they're just is trying to make a point like hey this is new. This is different. You know we're going to be very cautious with this and not let you do anything but from what i've seen up to this point. It seems like they're being being targeted a little bit <hes> because they're kind of in the forefront with this but i don't see anything that you know i. I can't believe they're going to continue to call in the regular season what they've been in calling in the preseason. What if what have you seen from tyler murray. I like cuyler. <hes> you know been out to practice. <hes> you know watched all the games you know. The biggest thing for me is i think he needs to get better or this. Offense needs to be better at handling the blitz. There seems to be a number of times it gets minnesota and against oakland oakland where they were bringing pressure and either didn't have an answer or he wasn't ready with the answer against the pressure and they've got they better figure that out or that's gonna to be a problem but i think you saw yesterday. There was three or four just big time throws from tyler murray. I think he's in control. You understand that the moments not too big. I really like him. I'm not sure they have the pieces around him right now for him to be everything he's going to be <hes> but he's not my biggest concern by any means with <hes> with the cardinals finals this year well that leads me to this question about putting him in there with an inferior line that they didn't improve upon last year and now well. I'm gonna put him out there. The last thing i want is my rookie quarterback to go out there and lose confidence begun shy and always be looking you know at ghost out there they should would he be starting week. One given that offensive line yes. He should be because they're moving forward to the future and brett hundley is not any part of that adam so yeah. I think he should be starting and i understand your point. <hes> and i think a big part of that is always knowing who your quarterback is. What kind of confidence is he has if he goes through some struggles. Do you think that's going to affect him. Long term and you know i think you have to know that first and foremost of everything i've heard and everything anything in my conversations with kinda. I don't worry about that. I don't look at a guy. That's going to get gun shy at any point time. He's the guy that believes he can make every play. He believes he's the best player on the field andrew luck with another guy. He got. You know beat up a lot. Obviously it's bad dividends now for the team but he got beat up a lot when he was young and he never got gunshot he never shrunk from that and i don't think either murray is that kind of guy but i think it's important that the organization no <hes> who the quarterback is when they put him in and that's why i fully believe he should be the solder week one regardless of what they have around him and you might take your lumps early <hes> but it's gonna pay dividends for him and for this team in the long run. What would you do with daniel jones with the giants <hes> well. I mean i think you again. I said there's a a number of times i think he lies earned the right to play himself out of the position <hes> and so i know daniel has played well in the preseason but this is realized job and it deserves to be his job until he shows that he's not the better quarterback <hes> come regular season when you're seeing real defenses and when that point in time comes i think it will be tough <hes> to figure out the right timing and how to do it <hes> but i think eli holds the job this entire year until the organization is fully believes that january jones is the better quarterback. <hes> and i and i'm still not sure that's the case right now. Who's your sneaky team this year. There's always one or two that move up one or two that moved down. That's a good question. You know what i mean and again. It's it's what are you. What are you base it off of. I mean you know the two teams that i think are gonna make big jumps. This year are atlanta and minnesota and again. I don't know if you look at them and go oh. They're sneaky because i mean you you know. Minnesota's got everything you know. They've got to be a playoff team. This year and atlanta i mean they went through so many injuries last year but their offense should be dynamic and and as long as they're decent on defense they should make a move and you know be in the playoffs this year as well and some of those are kind of my team that are on the outside that i'm looking at going. They've got him make a run. It'd be much better than they were. Record lied last year. Is it time for tennessee to move on from marcus mariota. I think it's time and to be on a short leash as much as i like marcus as a as a guy just not the consistency there and now you've got a guy that has started in this league behind behind him <hes> that i think you have to see more consistency weaken out or you do have to make the move because you know i mean this is the year it's either. You're signing him to the long franchise deal or you're not and you know if you're already convinced he's your guy than pam and and i don't know why you brought ryan tannehill but you have to believe they don't believe is that right now and if he doesn't come out and show that consistency i think you've got to figure out if the guy that guy and <hes> and move forward kurt great to talk to you we appreciate it and look forward to those sunday mornings all right buddy. That's kurt warner n._f._l. Network the sunday morning show with rich eisen n._f._l. Game day morning morning at nine a._m. Eastern starting september eighth and he starts to look at some of these quarterbacking situations. I you know i i know. Haskins is the future for the redskins end but i not surprised case. Keenum is going to be your starting quarterback not at all because that's still feels like that's. That's a fluid situation where i'm not. I'm not quite sure what's going on. How good that offensive line is and plus. Jay gruden is coaching for his job if they don't make the playoffs jay gruden. I don't think keeping that job who gives you the best chance of keeping your job. If you play the rookie quarterback you can attach yourself to a rookie quarterback back. I thought jeff fisher was trying to do that with jared goff you. Hey you gotta keep me even though he's a mediocre head coach. You wanted to get the guy that you go. Hey you can't fire me because i am. I got my next. I got the future right here. I think jay gruden looks at it goes case keenum. Him gives us a better chance to win games and i can keep my job right now. Yes mclovin. I'll see you look at their schedule at eagles cowboys that defense there with that defense at giants science and patriots. Do you really want to start off with those. The cleo matt coming at him. I know that everybody is split on this. Do you put in a rookie quarterback leading fielders lumps and i you know i want you to tell me when you think you're ready. When you truly can tell me you're ready and then i can look at you. I wouldn't say you're reading. Is daniel jones ready. Daniel jones had one of the great preseason that a rookie quarterback has ever had. I don't know what that means. Yes mclovin how jones out have been better duke. I mean he's he looks unbelievable in preseason. It's pretty season. I know but i know i know jarret jarret stidham patriots no but we've done this before. It's like everybody went. You know they were slobber over jimmy garoppolo. I've yet to see greatness outta jimmy garoppolo. I'm sorry folks. I don't i. It may be blasphemous to say. I don't see it <hes> eastern illinois. He was pretty good. I am that's the first time that he was on my radar. Polly goes you got to watch the the playoff game and you're gonna love this guy garoppolo. I watched it. I said man. The guy looks great. He sliced and diced youngstown state. Yes yes like carson wentz. When polly goes as this guy and carson wentz he could start in the n._f._l. Ago all right. I'll watch yes mclovin. <hes> local reporter tweet that people in the team are saying. He's not a great practice player. Jimmy gs a gamer so once a game start. He's going to show up. I guess one of his former teammates with the patriots said that he was a horrible practice player. I heard the contrary. I heard somebody say that. He was so good in practice. That brady saw this us in didn't want him on the roster whether everyone's saying he's struggled all summer long or the nine plane okay. He showed a couple signs this weekend. You're paying them twenty seven million. You can't show me signs. I ready. Can we get the daniel jones bandwagon going if you want to is a to who is it number six pick so it's not that hot to take him as the dan patrick show brought to you by mercedes a._m. 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I was was that marconi beach and wellesley massachusetts after reading about closures for sharks all week long five minutes in i look out on the water see gigantic splash about one hundred yards out and a big big dark figure jump out of the water. It was a great white shark breaching and there are two great white on the beach shut down for four hours awesome. <hes> worse was as we were on another beach on the bay side and they're all these crabs around and i tell my daughter stop freaking out there. Just crabs are not going to do anything to you to stop wareham. A giant crab grabs my foot and tries to pull me down. I had a wound that i have to go in and get near sport in the bandai for basic. A crab pinched true schori. How did your kids react by. Kids are daddy. Stop messing around because i was so funny i was like would you stop complaining complaining about the crash. They're not going to touch their freighter. You then this wanting to make my foot lunch. Also dwight howard gonna lakers pretty awesome yeah. I don't know what to make that that's going to be interesting. Contact yeah i. I don't know what to make of that. I've i've read a couple things where he's he's been humbled so this is the the dwight howard you want the one who's been humbled. Yes boy. That's a gift from the sports media guides white howard going to the lakers. I'd like what is it christmas. Is this a spoof account. Yeah then bringing back steve blanche to <hes> seton o'connor best and worst of the weekend best of the weekend bob cousy getting the medal of freedom or whatever <hes> good for him only getting some recognition you for great career <hes> my worst of the weekend was i took <hes> my son to a go kart track and we wanted to race against each other so i went in what was called the juniors part which was no adults but since i was his parents they're like oh yeah you guys can race against each other and it was like me him and like four other kids and at one point the guy gave me like the flag that means like hey man you need the chila racing a little too aggressively for these kids go around this one turn and the guy gave me like hands down. Take a bunch of like nine year old whereas running him off the track he had road rage yeah poor parents why is at nine year old beard beard and he's like two hundred ninety pounds squeeze into the little things that i i was just trying to keep up with my son and mess with him and you know like pass him or whatever and then he spun out at one point so flying on and you had on just trying to the kids and i could see this one parent like watching me like what a loser for my best that we can in spite of getting a no decision friday united united city field jacob degrom becomes the first pitcher since one thousand nine hundred to strike out thirteen hit a homerun twice in the same season. That's pretty big deal. In the modern era that hasn't happened took over one hundred years a worse during his first preseason carry sunday night against dallas texans running back lamar miller a._c._l. Done for the year so sad to see that so sad and then. I wonder you know they could be. 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Andrew Luck's retirement & the Chargers without Derwin James

NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

1:12:10 hr | 1 year ago

Andrew Luck's retirement & the Chargers without Derwin James

"People all over football america singing songs about your greatness and yet when i asked you this last year and plus you have that horseshoe on your head if you with the surname surname luck feel like you are a lucky guy. You said you'd never considered that before. Have you in the family. Put your heads together. Instead like our surname is luck. We should consider fortune fortune that you know. I think i it's funny because i try to use fortune. When i'm talking to us locking weird 'cause my last name name. Our dad always told us that you know. Luck goes both ways it could be bad or good so <hes> but i guess fortune verde damage schick football program available on apple podcast and at n._f._l. N._f._l. dot com slash now. Here's your host day. Andrew walk off into the sunset unsaid studio sixty six lit up with lights but also my burning enthusiasm for the arrival of pro football ball. It is here high in the low welcome to the dave damasec football program. I hope all is well wherever you are here in studio sixty six say we're ready to roll an emma presented as always buys axes the home of famous chicken fingers wings and salads. Go get you some of those. I keep saying it but this raging debate over over the last fortnight about the best chicken sandwich here there listen just ignore all that jive is that right over to gobert zach speed. I'll do that october nineteenth. When i'm in nashville to the chargers titans don't tell them dairy accenture. No doubt i don't know if that curry's any favor but i would mention the name of shaun evans because he and i workday drive through window in the nashville area around the draft of fry cook as well or now i worked all man did turn my all stations avenue. Retana evans was allowed though i go you know celebrity in the house damasec or whatever your name is a clean up some stuff and you smelled like that fragrance for two weeks. After didn't you love late anyway. All right football season is here andrew. Luck will not be a part behind each year nectar yeah. That's the sweet scent. They're listen. Spaghetti can tell you he can sing songs about zach's b.'s as well but instead andrew luck is retired so we'll keep it's about that add. We have much to us all the time but i do wanna ask a question because i have petro's yesterday on the radio show and he couldn't answer it. This is all because all popeye's did was tweet back. Y'all good like that's how this happened right. They posted we have a new sandwich can't speak in full and then like chick-fil-a bounced back with you know whatever chicken pickles bun equals love and then popeye's tweets back y'all good and got like two hundred thousand names walking talking about. I've never even heard about all. I can think about zach's b.'s. That's all i have. I have wing fingers in philly vote these years. I wouldn't even know what their best ast because they're not partaking these reindeer don't need to they're just making chicken sandwiches. I'm saying take the high road. All these people are arguing over what the best sandwiches when it's not because there's some tweets <hes> hey hey there. That's bronze-medal yeah zairo bronze axes giger bake bigger better menu so there's no need to worry about the other one's going too far now spaghetti. I like every menu item. I believe me. Let's no question it stayed in one sitting in the area. That was a little excessive that you had every menu item in one city because we're old salad because we are so old. That was actually a challenge when i was in high school. I think everybody probably had the huge that would try to pick your fan since i can't say their names of the restaurants it's the runs god forbid. She's well. How did you get <hes> there was a different category right shar- we had a friend chat who challenged us all and of course you know what i had my pocket. Maybe five bucks. He's like a check. You guys all gimme. Five bucks a pop dust everything everything on the taco bell menu tonight all right. Let's do this went to bell and i do recall his last item. E had to put down was the nacho bell john day and he wanted to and it was much like the great outdoors and the fat and gristle of the old ninety six or and he's like i don't get eat the sour cream and those nasty green things were like oh you gotta heat this hour cream and man for a guy that dusted burrito supremes teams in tacos and ensuring does in that little bowl of beans and cheese soon as he got there the pain and just the concern on his face. Oh off-putting those into his mouth. It was wonderful dusted it. I'm no stranger. I am that guy you were that i'm the of the friend you're the guy okay. Put it away. Yeah i can really really i can really i. I should be much better than i already. Am i famously. It's it's an old. It's an old carnival curric- this story a lot. I if you ever want to impress friends but it's not that hard to do tell me you can eat and the entire watermelon and our hour just all what it's all flavored pink water right you can you can throw that thing down but your friend will be amazed by it as the ryan taste. Is that a little hard to chew uh-huh. I see one of these fish that day. You still got quite if it's a cream count sodas derived over there. Ah i eaten. I participated in a wing eating contest when i was in college the first round so so you actually have to do your up to beat now. Now you gotta you gotta raise your game. The deeper you get into the playoffs first round the drill was yet eat fifty wings in fifteen minutes and i barely was able to fourteen minutes and forty seconds. It took me to complete the fifth almost didn't qualify for the tournament. Jamie game me <hes> the right to participate in the next round then it was rammed wings round set the following week seventy wings in twenty minutes. It's like <hes>. I don't know who you know who raises their game in the postseason. Tom brady. I guess julian edelman damasec polish the seventy the more quickly than fifty then the next round was as many wings as you could eat in a half an hour and when i showed up for that and i looked at my competition i realized i had no chance so i so i took my time. I enjoyed a basket a wings and then i and then i threw in the towel. How big were the dudes. They were just massive land. They were built for this life. There reminds me of my friend william the refrigerator perry who told me that he during his career it was invited to join in a hot dog eating contest and was paid a a large amount of money even for those princely sum to participate eight five hotdogs and said i'm full now. Thanks and they were like wait. This is a contest. He was like no no. I'm fine good. I got paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or something to eat five high. I mean i think as as i've said many times before and then we will get into the great game of football but i said it that when you show up at the hot dog or any other eating competition the move if you really want to intimidate your foes. Is you order a side of fries. Shake a milk shake. Yeah you just say like i'm here for the open. That's right. I'm not a remorse machine like you but i will vanquish you. It's like you know john henry johnson like i don't need that move say they can fries yeah imagine being that guy kobayashi and the great guy who dipped joey chestnut chestnut. Imagine what you like single letter. Scott shake can get some gravy avion those fries. That's a move that their heads would imagine if you order the fries and it comes with ketchup and you're like. I'll take some mayonnaise as well. That's it and so some people would leave the table all right listen this time i was just thinking about the fact that i can't really i the thing i've said all through this off season is how how hard one of the things i've repeated is how hard it is to identify which teams are definitely not going to the playoffs. We are fully into it now. If you missed the last step aside handsome hank revealed no fewer than what seven you did or i did nine getty did thirteen teams money thirteen gene teams that are definitely not going to the playoffs. I think spaghetti really teen. That's i mean every year. We have a worse too. I if he could get hit hit even double digits handsome. You know listen. I don't mean to diminish him but he took he went shocked. He took all last year's last place teams but this is what i as i explained at the time time opener for you and then you will like oh. I've got a big one here. I already mentioned it. I know i know but i went <hes> jacksonville jaguars lars but now andrew luck is retired so let's jump in on that right now andrew lock first of all handsome. You have a little bit of history with him. The thing that strikes asked me about it is and not to get up. I'm out pious because there's so many people running up to malpractice over the seventy two hours or so since they andrew luck news broke that he's retiring first of all it is absolutely his right to retire whenever he wants if he doesn't want to play for whatever reason that is his right the reaction though before we even talk about the football implications that this is another opportunity to for people to to prove to themselves if no one else that they are better than their fellow human beings by sending up to mount pious and condemning fans how dare air fans blew andrew luck. Don't they know these these rubes these dummies these these people who lack any sense of empathy andrew luck is a hero for all. Don't you know he peed blood. Let me tell you one. I'll go one step further than everybody up. I'm out pies. I say andrew luck does was in half to have suffered some minimum standard of of physical injury. He can retire for any reason he wants. If he wants to become a yahtzee <hes> yahtzee competitive player popular. We're up more and eating competition. He can retire for that reason too that the thing that everybody is citing is don't those people know what he laid on the line don't they they heard the stories shame on those people good for you yeah and by the way that the players are getting getting in on it too big names aaron rodgers. I saw david decastro who played with luck at stanford now a high offense of lima for the steelers of course. I said they treat us like we're circus animals. I mean i you know. How much am i supposed to weep over that treatment. Yeah that's part of the gig man. You're like daniel day-lewis complaining complaining. I only got into the into the movie making for the craft of acting then just oh go go to stage go to the that's exactly really right just go and find some london haunt and do <hes> stage productions for eighty people who shop to see you you wanna be a part of the big states and that's part of the thing and the idea that fame shouldn't do this straw man argument. That's been laid out that like hey let me just tell you something. It's in fact mean-spirited tabu. Other people like yeah everybody agrees with that. Also that's part of the deal if you are in the pro football in the pro sports in our society in the twenty-first century people. We'll pay money to go there. Yeah it's to me. It's a little strange that grownups where the jerseys of other grownups with the names on the back and everything else but ed hey players hey leagues. That's what you want to have happen if the fan stop caring if they are passionate about the whole thing implodes pay. I don't know why i feel like i have to stand up for the fans but that food chain that i always talk about gm's and coaches get up and condescend to the media bill belichick probably the best of doing that then and the media turned around fans. You don't get what's really going on you. You can't understand that and the fans are these dopes who just have to take it and only genuflect to the players. I it makes me crazy that this is the place that worrying and there's a lack of recognition of until they need fans and they need the support ford. We're going through a hard time when the lakers pulled that jazz a couple years ago hey lakers fans. You were with us for the good times. You better stick with us for the bat. Why why why do i have to do that when you condescend. Constantly i find that is what stood out to me above everything else about the retirement of this. It's okay for people to be disappointed in fans or doing it jim for seeing how dare you that's fine. I get that but i'm with you as well. You want to boom boom. You're grownup <hes> what i do it. No you know the guy clearly is football is unlike any other sport it just. Is you know if you you you walk away when you're done when you're done you. This is not something you want to do if you're not into it and you don't need the money. It's a nasty sportman. It beats the living hell out of you and unless issue are one hundred percent committed to doing it. Get the hell out. We were colts. Play was it voluntary. Davis was still on the coast. He retired midway through a game like i did the game. Amy didn't think it was the charger bills game. He laughed at and that was the been that was the big dan dockage who took a ton of incoming for saying wait a minute. I do a radio show here. Volunteer davis was cold. He walks out at halftime and i got people calling me nonstop saying what a bomb you quit on your teammates. How can you do do this. How dare you and now all of a sudden. You've got an opinion that i don't like what injured date here before the season right before the cheese and everybody thinks this team win the super bowl and he walks <music> out and i say i don't like it and everybody says i can't do a radio show in indie anymore. I understand what he's just pick a lane. My lane is and it's in not ah again. I'm not trying to climb up on alpi. I am simply saying my lane has always been the more people in the world that are happy the better for all of us so if andrew lock is more happy because he's not playing football anymore and volunteered davis then by all means more power to them because they don't need to make me happy and they don't need to make you happy that they're going to be fine you you know and when they're fine you're fine and that's the way i figure it with andrew luck. He wasn't going to be doing colts fans any favors if he comes back and sits on a training table and sits through rehab because he's frustrated with that calf and he doesn't like it and that's an it's not like i see it any more than other people do because i work with a team now and i have access to these training rooms rooms and planes and guys icing up after games and see what they look like you know when we're flying across the country to go back home but i get it. I sure as hell wouldn't do it. That is not naughty profession. I have any interest in ever taking part in because of the sacrifices. You have to make so if you don't wanna do it anymore. I hear you. The only reason money wouldn't n._b._a. N._f._l. Player and that's it thirty five foot ten a hundred exist though some sense of nuance and the difference between andrew luck and other guys and listen if you i mean chris borland wasn't filthy rich. I don't imagine when like when he hung it up. Upi didn't wanna do it so i don't necessarily consider this some canary in the coal mine anymore than barry sanders or calvin johnson or gale sayers obviously different circumstance stance there but this has happened in in football before yes. It is in fact as our friend marie. We'll tell you all the time. Hey it's live out there now right there. Keep your head. Donna swivel now like it's dangerous on that field is not some. It's a game but it's not it's not a game out there. You better not just be out there lolly gagging. He'll remind you of that. Obviously i think quid androids because people think that team could win the super bowl their life and how could he walk fan. That's what are we also. If you look at how that timeline unfolded took everyone by surprise price right well as soon as we saw that that i think you're getting to what is another element. <hes> vexes me so much fans did not have any other context right so we had it was announced and it clearly wasn't on the time line. The andrew luck was expecting it to be announced so then he's talking to his teammates on the sideline. He's on the sideline of preseason in game and in that moment the fans like what that guy down there retired then we have a press conference way he does clarify a lot of his thoughts and which again was looks like it was planned at the last second half time of the game that was after the game. Suddenly we have a press conference way where he talks about it where the people who then chiding the fans booing obviously had a lot more context to thinking he was doing it those fans in that one moment where like wait what what just happened. He's standing there. Were thinking team could go to the super bowl again. I don't necessarily condone what how they express themselves but at the same time it's completely understandable mandible that you'd be like my reaction to this center at a preseason game being pops in it might might be to do not like it was a universal blue right. That's exactly right good for lindsey roads. It wasn't simpson at the orange. Bowl wasn't ashley simpson. The orange bowl is what i'm saying all right. That's right these people. I mean the irony that these people that the football world is so empathetic about andrew luck but they can't put themselves was in the shoes of those fans standing there like wait what where i'm looking at social media while i'm watching the colts and wait andrew luck down on the sidelines and wait he retired. What is that real. I know i sitting on my couch. Check check social media repeatedly to confirm. This is a pair of this. I mean this is how about andrew lock is yes retire hire two weeks before it was pretty great for i worked with d._j. We do the chargers broadcast and we were at the game but the game was kicking off for an hour so we're down on the field old and it was fun. I mean i feel bad saying that but i think that's the right where it was fun to watch. Just the way this weird audio wave make its way from the stands down on the where there's no phones on the field for these players to the coaches and the media folks have had their phones and you can just see people talking reactions and then as it trickles onto the field to the players players who are warming up and just to see the chargers first week opponents the colts so not only was it making its way onto the field to members of this fraternity turn it. This national football league fraternity couldn't believe one of the best players in the league was going to call it quits you know seven years in with a shot at the super bowl but wait a minute this team. We play in week one and a guy that probably has you know m._v._p. Aspirations in a super bowls in there. That's that's pretty interesting and it was and i will say there were some reactions that were negative like man and cool. You can't be doing that and there were others that were like totally. Get it get it. It's so in in that's i'm talking about players. Dot people players to see the difference in the reactions that are a hundred and eighty once. Everybody has a night to meditate on. I didn't realize that if this is about some existential thing that andrew lucked physically can't make it happen anymore or he's lost passion all that stuff but to your point about different players getting different reactions as i said over the weekend when this came down and got a fair amount of pushback on it is is what if cam newton did this is at the same reaction of course it is not and by the way that guy has put his body through basically the exact same toll that that andrew andrew luck has if cam newton did this there would not be think so see i. I don't agree with that. You think people would be like cam newton the way i think because of the way the season ended last year when he could not throw a foot there. He's he's hobbling now yeah. I think it'd be very similar that you'd have that split. The people say quit on his team. I think but i feel like it's ninety tally. I feel like the media and the football community has reacted that is a a- as though shame the devil that you would say boo about andrew luck which i agree you shouldn't blew him but given the circumstance that those people like we say are are probably in their cups and their whip. They're pows in their way why we're here to watch his team and by the way we've bought season tickets and i wear the number twelve on my back. I don't as i tweeted back. Lindsay rhodes who spoke up and said give these fans break. They don't know what the circumstances on saturday night so the same thing that that i i don't i think they were booing outright. I think a lot of them at least were bemused ing guy. They were like what andrew don't do it. I think that's what they were actually actually doing and stuff about. Somebody slashed his tires. I don't know if in fact that's true. I mean listen. Obviously that's absurd. It's a felony yes. You're not a hero for pointing out called that that sort of behaviour is inappropriate. Yeah it's bogus but okay be people who've accused me of race baiting because i invoked the name cam newton. That's on you i i didn't. I didn't say it had anything to do with that. Polarizing quarter. There's a narrative about cam newton that disagrees with andrew that isn't the same as andrew luck and by the way which is ironic because there she similar they're very sit up their their trajectory and by the way they andrew also would have been out of carolina and he come out not not tried to chase a national title might still be playing by the way because he wouldn't have been behind that garbage offensive line at rick's and put together. That's exactly right he would have gone to carolina. Cam would have gone to the denver. Bronco's peyton manning wouldn't have gone to the denver broncos. He would have gone to seattle. Maybe home to tennessee. Maybe the colts would have kept him fascinating stuff or they get r._g. Three at the top top of the next year's draft and who knows where r._g. Three is that's why what if is fun but what if instead of cam newton what of ben rothlisberger did this would that be the reaction. How about another one aaron rodgers a little a little dodgier not as not as loveable on faces andrew lock armour among hey good hit good hitman days opponents. I like throwing playing catch with t._y. And that's cool like those guys who are. I think that we're in. I think we're in this time where people are are a little more compassionate and understanding than than even five years ago. I think those guys. I really do i think because i think the reasons would be the same right. I you know this is a tough game where i get injured a lot and mentally and physically. I've just decided this is too much to do and i think everyone who if if you can if that's the context for it then people would be able to would would sympathize with it. I would take a moment where ricky williams retired whatever that is twelve years years ago now in about the same moment in the preseason and although he didn't express it obviously as eloquently as andrew luck was able to in his press conference essentially essentially for the same reason he was didn't like playing football anymore wasn't enjoying it part of that show was due to injuries part of it was because he wasn't accepted by his team or the way that wasn't there. The marijuana i wanna narrative game came out right but actually it's the same idea man my mental wellbeing is more important to me than playing football and he decided that that was the way that he wanted to go off but you look at the reaction to that that was a hundred percent. Two people will like ricky williams throwing it away. Williams let down his team team. Whatever we just in a different era now part of it comes down in the money because the money because of course the people up on mount pious about whom delivering so mild scorn of course are not are not just doing this in a vacuum like anybody like i say andrew luck by their measure did it the right way and he paid a a acceptable level of a sacrifice to make it okay. It's ricky williams wanting to do it because whatever ever reason he wanted to do was not okay davis leaving at halftime whatever you know what i i think that's the extreme example like hey you're. You're not going to go out there for thirty more minutes with your guys and then call it a career after that me you just wait the extra pit again. I'm like whatever why go out there and take thirty more minutes hits. If you are are not into it. It's dan the i'll tell you this there is there is an interesting and it's not something that's in the media. At least i don't think it is but because i was at a game and because because i've called so many of their games i've heard regularly and because we do the draft the number one inside football conversation about it. There's there's there's a very you know it's polarizing and there are two camps and it's the stanford guy de guy with a very bright guy. Multiple interest doesn't need football and you hear it. Every year on the chargers drafted a guy that slipped and probably fell down some boards because of jerry tillery who's a bright guy from notre dame a worldly guy a scholar and there are people that let's say he's got an injured shoulder. I those are not guys that i want on my team is at right now but it exists in the stanford community hates it. It drives them nuts and i know for a fact because every solomon thomas last year you know you go with jonathan. Martin and i know these are for example and it's not fair to david shaw for listening right now. He'd want to reach through his speaker. Just choke the life out of me because i know how crazy it drives him because it's a very physical football all team of all the teams in the pac twelve. Maybe utah's a little more physical but it's pretty much stanford is gonna. You're gonna get the crap kicked out of you when you play them while some of these these other teams the fact that u._s._c. is now lying it up spreading it out instead of beating the hell out of us an embarrassment that stanford is that physical team but i know that's why it drives them crazy but man dan you wanna talk about a specific moment that is going to push that conversation for those people that totally believe in it and they'll be like you see. That's what i'm talking about right there. I invest in number one pick and a hundred and fifty million bucks and this guy is smart is worldly and when you realize you needed anymore. You're gone and i can't afford to do that. It's and that's gonna happen because of this one instance. We don't even have to look that far right his dad. All of luck played five years in the n._f._l. Retired to go and become a lawyer that was that was his goal wasn't to play. He could've played in the n._f._l. For long he was a backup quarterback on the houston oilers and really played a little bit was considered. I think a a good backup quarterback in the league and back in those days especially those guys could have ten twelve year career is quite easily. He said no. My goal is not to play football forever roy. I have a different cooling and while but the other side of that coin is then and i'm completely with you. I think you interrupted money. He was about to declare the christian christian. Mccaffrey is gonna retire next week. That makes sense. He's got the old man who played in the n._f._l. So he probably doesn't need it as much as other. This is the money so great now that you can do it you can you can have made their. I think there are plenty of twenty eight year old guys in the n._f._l. Right now yeah i mean i could. I could give it up but i can't do it because i still need that right but but i mean if you're a number one not not even number one overall if you're let's say if you're a top fifteen pick and i think there are and if there are those concerns. It's like okay by the time on this guy's done on his rookie deal. If i pick up his fifth year option he's going to have pocketed thirty five million bucks or twenty eight whatever it is when you're in that top ten you're talking about probably somewhere if they pick up your fifth year between thirty five and fifty million bucks is he gonna stick around or because he was premed and ultimately lee says he wants to run his own emergency room and travel the world and build facilities to help out those like really. I think that's that's the concern cernan that i think i don't subscribe to it. I think it is an individual. It is one hundred percent individually based not institutionally if i may stand up again for the fans a little bit so that's exactly right. People don't like the feeling people there is a there is a sunset sunset some sense of embarrassment. I imagined to be a grownup and feel completely invested and financially to save your season ticket holder. If you have a satellite package if you wear the the merge and you buy it for your family and it's a reason that you gather with your family around the t._v. Every week and it's a point of connection for you with those people that you feel a little bit like the rug got pulled out from under you that like oh he doesn't care about it is my he's not living and dying it. I'm just a fan and he's a player and i've idolized is tim and i started rooting for him. When i was a senior in high school and now amount and now i feel silly. I feel a little bit embarrassed. I absolutely can get the psychology of the fan for that and i think it's i think football players again not canarian the coal mine that this is going to be a new era for football ball in the relationship with football players and media and the fans but you know but you tread lightly their median fan and players. You really want to shame shame people for caring too much are go ahead. Say see what happens. When you become horse race and remember luck turned on the number one pick i mean he went back to school tool where he took a beating. I mean he he is not a guy that was just kind of dinkins dunkin his spread offense i mean he was taking a beating and he decided i'm gonna. I'm gonna go back and i'm going to get my a degree for another year. I know i know i could be the number. One pick of fifty million bucks guaranteed him up but i'm going back so you already knew that he was a different kind of guy but for for all the praise of how smart he is how smart is a guy who thinks that a pac ten team was going to be put into the final four over to s._e._c. Teams silly silly look they they would have ever done that. Come out. Put you in the title game this year. This is not what's not this year when he went back right. There were only to just to head to head t stanford or oklahoma. State should have been brandon weeden. He's also out of the n._f._l. All craft what the one thing i'll say is and i wanna here from handsome who knows andrew lucked. The one that i think is going to happen now even before this <hes> but this will add to it last year khalil mack. I mean you so you can go through it. Dwayne brown got traded. I can't do this off the top of my head but adrian peterson. I looked up all the big name guys who moved teams right before the kickoff or even during the season in the last two years sam bradford yeah. Wow yeah that's there. I mean he was a starting quarterback quarterback. Jacoby perset was traded friday exactly jacoby just before the season to learn culture being a different spot than they're in right now and probably panicking quite a bit more than that they would be but i mean we got trades coming. I mean by the time you're listening. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like oh yeah you guys are talking about that and the davey and cloudy news was breaking trent. Williams williams is probably going to move shady mccoy. Maybe get to dropped or maybe the bills are trying to send him down or frank. Gore down to houston that would make some sense you can see a lot of these big name guys moving around and then the backup guy who looked good relatively young one of those two quarterbacks that are backing up rothlisberger pittsburgh is very likely to get moved via trade rather than cut. I do think the way the n._f._l.'s restructured that the cuts process so that doesn't happen over two weekends but just happens all at once kind of encourages those types of trade as well because i think they're guys that would otherwise have been cut by now that teams might say okay. I'll bring them in for a week just to see if they worked for me but because you don't gather opportunity i think teams are more likely glutamate. What handsome yes. I think it's great. It's been one thing that the n._f._l. Hasn't had over the other leagues but now in these last few years we're seeing some juicy trades rage right before the thing and swing things could conceivably obviously khalil mack swung the andrew romantically with with last year's move j._v. and cloudy is convinced the rumor that as soon as he signs that tender he's gone you know and it's it'll be interesting. You know i've heard seattle is being mentioned in that one. The eagles is being mentioned so because the thing is you can't sign them do an extension. That's what makes that one different than the the khalil. Mack is agreed to the extension and you're going to give up all these draft picks and assets in order to get him in can't do that with cloudy hill have picked up that tender. It's a one year deal. He goes into free agency the next year regardless artless so i'll be anxious to see that's going to be a bigger market just because you're not gonna get two ones like they got for mac because of the way this now. I agree yeah right i i. I think that's right but what what i think would be fun. Little full circle would be dwayne. Brown comes back to houston. The reason he laughed was discord with ownership ship and you a couple years later it lines up that could kind of make sense if they sent cloudy up to seattle handsome andrew luck is he's a he's a friend of yours to a friend of mine andrew lock oliver luck oliver. Luck was my first boss with the n._f._l. So i worked for the n._f._l. N._f._l. europe and and all of luck was the equivalent of the commission of the president n._f._l. Europe so i worked with him in london from nineteen thousand nine hundred ninety six i think was was when i first uh-huh him back. Then living in london was andrew luck and you know relatively frequently. He backed up in the n._f._l. In yes she manning manning archie manning funny he was also the leading pasta in west virginia history and then the guy that that overtook him was jeff was applicable. Darren stud still who played quarterback major harris then went over well. No oh yeah it wasn't major harris then went over and played safety and wind up in n._f._l. Europe spending time with all the luck and darren stud still and all was like yeah but you're not the quarterback back. I was obviously you're playing safety which was funny anyway but yeah andrew used to come in the office age seven or eight years old and i definitely played catch with him in the office he was he was into soccer. That's all he was into when he anyway so he's stayed in touch with the u. K. i think the moment that really resonates with me is at the draft in two thousand twelve. I had previously also in the u._k. What would the daughter of gemma say casey and the whole bumped into her like in the backstage. Adjust the radio city music hall the whole family with our. I remember being squeezed into an having talk to them squeezed into an elevator with them and they're about to go down to the is the player lounge to oversee. It was a foregone conclusion who they were picking and just like they were. They were made up that they had their guy for the next twelve. Fifteen seasons tends to be that quarterback who is going to lead them to multiple super bowls and everything else and as we all set at the time they really fell into had peyton manning and then they went had ridiculous niculae luck andrew luck and just kind of reflecting on how they would have been feeling now versus necessarily feel sorry for them at this point but but you know it is it's crazy to i think that didn't last as long as i mean and also the one i always throw out. There is <hes> imagine if you were a packers fan you went from star. Then mcculskey and lynn dickey were all right. Guys is a pretty big gap but yeah i know but but then you go brett farve into aaron rodgers now twenty seven years twenty eight years in a row oh the colts fans went peyton and lock while though i guess that one year they didn't really do that but yeah it was it was curtis. Pay this painting was i think one of the anything short and yet three and yet three lombardi's between the packers and colts over the last twenty seven years or so. That's weird but anyway all right. What spaghetti are you taking a nap. There was too much on the andrew luck. Even notes actually given notes all over my page did anyone anyone get traded while we were talking anything. We've missed now with twitter. Mostly just walk any spaghetti back. There's wearing a l. Wade boggs tampa bay. Devil rays gers yeah interesting yeah. It's an interesting selection. I was gonna grab it yankees one today but i didn't want to rub it then the dodgers. Fan's faces no problem with that. I grabbed. This was an whenever i'm wearing in jersey. You could indicate that a guy dressed very early in the morning. I just didn't feel like putting effort into it. So if if i may if i may you may how about this yankee fans yeah. We know there's there's a lot of new yorkers that now live in l._a. You and why you live here because you like it more than new york. That's why you live here. You're not going back there because it's better here than it is at home. That's what you've determined should don't show up dodger stadium. When you're stupid ass jersey puffing your chest outgoing guess who's area. Guess who's taken over dodger stadium this weekend. You're bombs. You don't know you don't know baseball you idiots. That was the yankees. It's sad burglar you. Do you guys nuts why they let brooklyn. Whatever whatever bunch of shut up you wanna wear your jersey and you wanna watch the game great enjoy yourself i am all for it have a great time. It's an awesome ballpark. Mark and the team is playing great. It's a potential words. World series preview what i don't need is and this we did the show from dodger stadium on friday and i am driving up cesar chavez to get there and it just set the tone for the next three hours of my life. Where there's this this guy that looks like the best way i i can describe him as you remember big pussy from the sopranos. That's what he looks like and he's got this. This t shirt jersey on right guys probably fifty years old and and he's got a d._v._d. Gregorious he's got the name gregorios on the back of his and he's walking through a green light. It's like two o'clock in the afternoon so a lot of the financial l. Houses are getting let out of work. The streets packed. It's rush hour. It's a green light. You don't wanna get stuck at these lights. You wanna get home and traffic stinks and he's got this thing the whole pursed. I lip donald trump thing. It's a new york thing those walk around look this with their lips parched right and so this guy is walking for the middle of the street in a green light in a six lane and he's got his big oria shirt on and this car honks at him and he looks at the garden he goes relax already. We're going to the game. Wait a minute one. No you relax and wait for the freaking light to change to really you're going to the game fat guy with a gregoria shirt on thanks for the freaking update appreciate that and it was that guy multiply. There were probably realized that guy was eddie spaghetti. It might as well i wish. I wish it was friday. I would've loved to see the show a lot. I came. I want the saturday show where we're a game where they lost unfortunately but i had a great time. They're he just non. I don't know if you watched sunday night baseball but it was that that dude from the t._v. Who is in the front row. John turturro's brother exactly to triay right and he hey e._s._p._n. How about harumi yankee fan on in a single every single aroldis chapman pitch and he's pounding in his chest cookies keys sit down sit down l. a. The reason i resent new yorkers is because l._a. Has this weird national. I think that probably is the only reason ultimately why l. a. Real estate isn't even more expensive is that new yorkers define american in my opinion. I think the country would acknowledge and so new yorkers would never live anywhere outside of new york. There's no real over leave. The five boroughs basic industry so then they'll move to los angeles and then be cut not because l. a. stinks anyway. It's just that it's not new york. Then people people cast aspersions on delight is weird out here and everybody's rigged by that is nobody says heidi on the streets to say the light is phony the out here that the for real i've had that conversation with light as with directors who were from new york like i mean i know the gold now is great but the light is weird. It's unnatural. There's no change in fact it's not you can play me about the weather is nice but the everybody's a phoney so everybody in the nation. Thanks wchs al as a bunch of <hes> but the real mayor. I don't know what people think but yeah so the the new yorkers have cast los angeles on necessarily grim lights ah yet they chose to live here for twenty five years now following. You've been here how long i've been thirty years. You're still talk like that really can't beat the weather the able to shake the accent. What can i say. I'll tell you what i what you can say you can sound like me because i was able to shake my accent and six seven years every we now and then every now and then it'll show up but i don't sound like days and i'd like hey. Maybe you guys if you all could weigh in on this is well. You've all been a new york enough. Maybe it was just the fans at the game are new yorkers the worst dressed by far. I noticed blew. Ooh me down how what they're fat. They have terrible fashion sense. These people they all wear like jerry seinfeld bright white sneakers person with jeans and yes precisely what the hell is this a yankees and it's gonna be great now now how i have to step in direct assault on spaghetti and that just like that i mean i don't put effort into gives you didn't notice spaghetti's a grown man mind the glasgow he's sitting there with words away jersey and tight fitting jeans durant described described sorry no. I'm not offended in the least because like i know it's a really blew me away just seeing a mass of people over the two hours of them just pouring into dodger stadium doc. These people don't address terrible felt at home. I actually weirdly sat next to a kid from staten island who lived in tucson may the drive and it was just we had a nice little it but the the dodger fans to their credit. They were super like hey. I was a great game. We're like high fiving and stuff like we enjoyed it. I mean it's fine to we'll take two or three. They listen. I mean we should have we should anyway. Glacier was more than halfway. You can't call timeout but that's a different. That's different podcast. Let's get through some quick subjects. How much more time do we have here spaghetti any money to get out soon. We were about forty two minutes. Deep is that it okay good a little bit too bad all right. You know what handsome dealer's choice you go. What what what football related items down some things here. Let's read them out so let retirement. We've definitely come okay bruce it you. You know what that's a fine subject a._f._c. South who's going to win it. Is there another team in contention. Is there another team that gets a wild card spot or i already. I already told you either the jags. Won't i know but doesn't it isn't it disrupted by this andrew luck news if they get two more wins against the colts that maybe two more loss but i don't know that i don't know that i i mean obviously andrew luck important play but does that equal two more wins for the jags i would fall can't figure out the like i can't figure the kobe percent people the people who think well either way. I think it's more like oh yeah. The guy only won four games over the course of a season but that team's terrible yeah. This is a totally different. They didn't really have a defense and they definitely didn't have that old line now. They've got the line and they've got a young improving in deep but then i see on the flip side of that one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen play the game football sort of being like oh. You know what percent guy by that but it seconds say look. Here's the comp is though is that where was frank reich before here arrived in indianapolis and who did he have success with nick foles. I could definitely currently see that transition. It's not like i'm sure right to some degrees is broad enough yeah now. Can they get it doesn't mean and jacoby percents gonna make the same in game decisions and see the field in the same manner. The nick foles does but at least there's some track record okay. You're not as good as our number one going into the season but we can get by with you and by the way the colts are structured another point. We've made all through the off season the entire a._f._c. south is predicated on defense. All all four of those teams have great defenses and now. I wonder if the culture probably behind the scenes like shady mccoy splash here but i wonder if they're kind of thinking like hey bill you wanna throw frank bag back our way because what they lack is a bangor marlin max a playmaker and t. y. Hilton is as well. I wonder if there's some some ability to to to make something like that happen because that's now watch out. Andrew luck can't save you in the fourth quarter at this point. That's what what he would do. He would cover up. I mean in line with like you always talk about phil river disguising the quality of the overall offense. I think you could say that about russell. Wilson rothlisburger burger aaron rodgers the usual suspects but i think that they're not going to have that luxury look provided but luck also was. I gonna say something negative live about day. Andrew lucked football and soldier. I might get beaten up by in the next forty eight hours for saying boo about andrew luck heathrow fairmount interceptions and <hes> <hes> bad decisions based on that. Maybe jacoby percent is an upgrade now regard but the money's why we don't know we'll have to wait and see. Let's see <hes> september ace out here in l._a. But if everybody has the same thing then what is different about these teams and it's who has the most play makers on offense the jags if you buy it leonard fournette can make it a full season behind what's a decent offensive line if he can just bang effort for for in the second half of games and that was what they were supposed to be two years ago and what they wanted to be last year. Maybe that's the difference but then on the other hand. I still come back to the texans. I think i think the texans their defense isn't going to be as good but i do and i know they don't have lamar miller now but you know the receivers plush shawn watson to me. That's the difference in the the division. They have the best quarterback in the best. They've got to pass rusher because it receives. They got the best price russia. They best receiver best quarterback best pass rusher. It's it's sad to see him. Go out but i'm not sure that i think johnson i think do johnson. I think they'll sign j._j. This week as well do you do. Can you talk with the englishman a yeah. I mean i don't have any right yep. Hello henry. I was just speaking of you with all of that's that's ex-. That's exactly talk to your call. You blew a call in. What's the latest j. j. new american history better than you did that was embarrassing but also not surprising he lived lived in america. We ask educa- nj gye a couple of years ago. We did a little u._s. History quiz and we said who was the first president of the united states j._j. Correctly directly said george washington abraham lincoln. That's right was linked abraham lincoln. I would've put you on a giant catapult with an an american flag you back over to for that. Tell you what i would not go that flag soon i could money. Let's so what's your pick for the division texans yeah. Do you think that you'll pick before now. Colts coach would gulch was my pick before i am tempted to consider themselves sexy for saying i'm going to stick with the colts because i by gobi percent when it's just a complete crap shoot i do but i do think that defense is maybe the best in the in the a._f._c. You'll lines definitely the best in the a._f._c. That's for sure <hes> <hes> defense is really good. See south. I mean that'll what while the because it's it's up there man asian awesome offensive offensive line yeah and while the transition that takes us to your team the <hes> the l._a. Chargers and a week ago spaghetti and i went over to chargers camp had a great time talking to go back and listen to it in fact because they were all delightful guys in their own ways. Joey bosa and mike williams and jerry tillery had fun kibitzing with all those guys and we're talking about. Is this the year finally that the football gods take their thumb off you guys and let somebody else have it and the endure when james goes down how significant again i in my book derwin james right now one of the five best defensive players in the n._f._l. Because of his versatility which is what the twenty first century is all about and defenses how oh you can trick up offense as a little bit move agai around there when james is obviously great at that as money told us he would be a year ago in fact you said look at this kid and camp if they are doing everything that human being can do with this guy so he's out the defense still though pretty good while i i think the difference is you know last year. When boza rosa was out to start the season everybody said okay. Can you go five hundred. Maybe even if you go a game under five hundred you know you can make that push and get a wild card and they went seven and two without him <hes> <hes> to me the way he looks the way he's moving a full offseason of not being injured and i just i think he is going to wreck wreck the n._f._l. I just do i think he's gonna come back and now when you pair that with with melvin ingram on the other side i'm i've been super impressed with you. Sat down on with three outliers physically like when you see joey bosa. There aren't people built like that. He's that same with mike williams. You're like wait a minute that guy. He told us i did he. He learned that fast. The only bosa lifts that's part is so big he told us at mike williams who i think's gonna have a huge year at the receiver and then you you saw jerry tillery who is just a massive in super athletic human being now on the inside so now you have bosa ingram and tillery is now on the inside of of that. What i'm getting at is that can that can help you overcome for anything. That's behind in the seven. You have that much dominance on that front line. You can help compensate. It's still still gonna affect them. They do have a pretty good guide to plug in and adrian phillips. Someone who played safety and linebacker in college played safety and linebacker for the chargers last year was an all pro as a special teamer because he's just that good at diagnosing football and recognizing where he needs to make a play. He's not derwin but i think it's it's. They're i think they're fortunate that they put him in the box and at least feel good that he can run with tight ends he can't or he can bang with tight ends he can run with slot lot receivers if need be and he can rush the passer so i think that helps but but for me the only way they overcome it is that that boasts one hundred percent and he ingram just roy hint at derwin james of the forecast at least that he could be back in december so week eleven i think is you plug him in an and their thriving than that would be scary prospect for the rest of the league but what about is melvin gordon potentially going to move. I have no idea about names aims talk about names that could be moved moves just because i don't think there's a market. There's no market form because no one wants to see if they know what he turned down. We're not giving up morten ads so there's just wouldn't make sense. I think the trump i think the tax liens or maybe the colombian look at someone called the charges and said we'll give you a one. They'd be like sure. Take them is yours. I i mean no one will not i wouldn't i mean within the colts have the money i know that the co they're not off the hook up andrew luck steel but they get at some relief for andrew lecture time and i i would guess if there were you know if they're what they did it before richardson offer. I mean if you're melvin gordon even if you're in the melvin gordon camp. What are you going to be like okay. I guess i'm i really am gonna just sit out the season. Didn't you just comes back like we talked about. I could now see them being incentive to say like hey. Is there something that i save face. I make a little bit more money and moved to to houston or for that but i don't think the market because i think at least i the teams. We'll see what shakes after the game but what if your call but what if you're the colts now you have people actually calling up and saying. I want my money back on my season tickets. Do you feel some obligation to try and look at what we did. We tried had to make something good out of your idea from going back there or shady mccoy. If he gets cut is more like they will. They'll look at what happens this weekend with players getting cut before them decide to make a trade for mauve and gooden if there if there's someone that you can replace them with and you look at the character of the front office and that just doesn't seem like a chris ballard move to trade eight a high because i think for the chargers. It's you know they feel like they can win. A super bowl this year so they're not interested in future assets to rebuild that they got a thirty. He's seven year old quarterback and his fourteenth season you know a. D. line that they feel is is arguably the best in football. Let's go in a super bowl and melvin gonna recognize. I gotta come back. I have no choice here fun. I'm having fun. Would i would say hey send us. You know what send us justin houston. Go we'll give you we'll give you melvin gordon. You send us justin houston. That would be an interesting piece to drop into the chart yeah now. Why for them yeah i mean. I guess that's interesting. I think for them. They're they're pretty stacked. That's the thing about their rostrum unless it like they look if the if the dolphins called and said hey we'll give you tunsil for gordon and a one tatum will take the left tackle. I mean that's the only thing because that's what's interesting about the n._f._l. Now and you kind of talked about with the quarterback position that are are we at at quarterback saturation the there's only one position really laughed where you have just a third of talent and it's all lying. It's tackles nichols's. There are no i mean there are so few dominant left tackles in this league and i think that's where you know. That's that's why i think the texans sins look at it and go. Hey if you want to send us a left tackle will send you cloudy need number one overall pick take him but we need attack because there aren't any i mean that's why the stuff with the dolphins opens and denzel's like you crazy though generate net guy trading. There's no way they're trading because it's impossible to find another again. I i know p._r. To their detriment german is too often not at all on the radar. It's it's like that serious football guy. That's not how you build. A team is listening to the fans but if you're up in washington in d._c. And everybody's buzzing about america's team and about carson wentz is return and saquon. Don't you kinda as you see ticket sales and you see see the crowd and the lack of enthusiasm in our nation's capital wouldn't you at least be able to say like all right houston treat williams as yours give us cloudy and then we have love this insane pass rush that we're going to throw at you with that montas so ad and care again and now you through clowney into that it'd be like man. What did they aches. It's too much. I don't know why that has. I would disagree and say it's so much harder to find trent williams again. He's young. He's thirty one like it's like very clear. He's not playing right. I mean i think that's what you have to figure out. It's like you've got to figure get out there and figure out how to get that guy back. 'cause we got this pocket passer. Who's got an awesome arm. That's going to be starting four by week four. We gotta protect them trent out but it's funny though again. If you're the tax just now take a lay of the land and andrew luck being <music> out. I'm sure bill o'brien didn't shed tears when he heard the news imagine now people are kinda like the shadow watson's really good. He's a he's all oh new. Coppins is hard to stop. It catches everything. I don't think there's a lot of fear in foxborough or or in carson california or arrowhead stadium a._d._m. Right now what the texans ultimately do if you fix that though and you and you put trent williams <unk> agree dealing a second yeah you would do it in a second no question. I think they do it. They do it for duane brown to get him back but i don't think i don't think the author give them up. I don't i can't i mean maybe they do because russell's ability he to to think about how bad that line was and he was still throwing for three thousand yards and twenty touchdowns rushing for another ten but it's just it's it's. It's really interesting that that's that's kind of now. The great golden egg that you've got to find good good luck find in a left tackle and just just look at the money me that was thrown around two years ago. You know that that matt kalil ref- <hes> oh coon like those contracts that were nuts seventy eight the backlash exactly i mean the best left tackle so the guys that were just available because their teams are like well. They're not very good. We'll let them go on like we'll take average average money. I think he goes further than just left titles. I think offensive lineman left tackle is the marquee position on that on that line which continues and by the way we've been talking talking about that for three years now here on the p. that it is so kind of like it's hard to really be fully invested passionate about that discussion but it really is what decides who goes to the super bowl more often than not who's control them. Both lines of scrimmage re really comes down to those are the teams like why is it. The quarterback is at the splashy wide receiver those guys. It's why the eagles look so good right now. You just know that inherently from watching football that but i couldn't define for you why jason peters as a three hundred pound man is better at pushing other large humans than your league average visit left tackle. It's very hard look at our valuate. It's always bring it back to the charges but it's just what i see every day. Look at their third round. Pick this guy trae pipkins. He's from sioux falls state. You know a d to school and he's a total project at left tackle. He might be their day one starter just because he's so athletic big can anchor and they're like yeah. He's he's going to give up some place because he doesn't know what he's doing but you know what we're gonna. We're gonna take chances because he's so much better than the other options asians as far as that goes. I mean that would be if they want to do something risky. I get why would be risky but jason peters has what like one two three years left left in his career. Move him handsome powell his provided depth. They have great depth up and drowning. I they drafted under dillard's leads well so they have placement replacement on the left side and on the right side hopefully in all right. We gotta we gotta run. I don't like d._c. Like i say they need to make a splash flash what they're doing with case keenum really outrages me for skins fans. Why case keenum jay groome like this this the job saving move on his part. This'll be this'll provide me stability and i won't. I won't be taken to task for starting the rookie which by the way is exactly actually. Would you like us. Are things got sideways. We went with the rookie guy. You know i can be tough for us that would needs reps ks if they're one in five or whatever they come out of the gate poorly then like jay grew no-go because of case. I don't understand that you you burn twelfth. The twelfth overall pick or whatever it was ause dwayne haskins role. I think clearly the reason he's made that. I agree with you one hundred percent but the reason he's made that decision is he thinks he would be one in five or six x with dwayne husky i know but then you at least have the cover of saying iraq but yeah but that would that would make sense on any other team better than the redskins i think j. j. gruden's gone off to the season short guardless super bowl. I'm going i. He's kept his job much longer than i ever thought than. I ever thought possible some quick questions for money. Let's talk about the teams in purple first of all. I am insisting everybody on the record because not since chip kelly entered the n._f._l. And everybody declared one or the other going to revolutionize football or this is going to be a bust lamar jackson running a mid eighties barry switzer big eight wishbone styles. How's it. I can't wait to see it either. I wish it weren't a team. I'm rooting against given my loyalties but i think it works wchs there. It was my favorite by the way there's not a lot of highlights from the preseason right. Sean mcvay ruined the preseason for everybody. It's over now but the best moment if you didn't see it ah made the way it made its way through social media but there was a moment i think it was either their first or second preseason game ray lewis was in the booth. If i remember right as the third the guy and lamar threw a pass and it just kind of was outside the range just barely outside and whoever the second guy the analyst says see. That's what i'm talking talking about. You know lamar's accuracy is getting a little bit better and ray lewis not recognizing what he was doing that he was in the baltimore booth that thinking he was still on e._s._p._n. Or something goes on any of the guy was throwing. How far off mark the passage was the one that sale has. He's like throwing too so if lamar's gonna throw thirty passes a game. Oh i definitely interested to see that and i know for whatever reason it's taboo to talk about his accuracy but that guy can't throw outside the numbers. It's crazy. It makes no sense. She throws a beautiful ball. Okay so this is money is no this doesn't work. I don't think he's gonna throw thirty passes. I'm with you. I think you wanna have success with with law because the spaghetti road east propagate okay. That's what i'm talking about throwing thirty. Will this baltimore offense thrive in twenty hundred eighteen. I don't think so now. I know i don't know aride good. I like that. I think it's gonna work. It just keeps saying it's navy five years ago. Just went well. You're a fool for scheduling a service academies means how would you it's offensive coordinator. Just what a pain in the bum to have to like so i look so we have with it so yeah exactly like and we saw it last year right. They play the chargers on saturday night. They got him for two and a half quarters then the chargers caught up in nearly stole that game because they figured it out after after the first half and then they house them and forced five fumbles in the wildcard game in baltimore okay. I got it now but i think hollywood brown where you after follow him. What are you not sure do you not he has to let them keep them outside. The numbers like hey burn me on that. Go ahead and i'll take it right right here on the chest tight end right you know ten yards deep and the thing that to me that made georgia work the thing but what what to me is striking now. Versus versus last season is for what it's what it's worth and i think it's a pretty marginal difference between a really high and running back. That's what we keep talking about. Melvin gordon verses zay justin jackson or any any number of other examples. Is you think about the difference in style that they're going to throw out there gus edwards to mark ingram to kenneth dixon to justice hill. That's going to be a lot plus lamar jackson. That's a lot to manage if you're from a physical standpoint as as a linebacker tried to go get one of those guys it's not like one size fits all they have different skills so when the ball sweeps in one direction versus lamar jackson accent then rolling with with justice hill on his hip and and my gave it to have a new o._c. Right yeah so. I think that was part of the problem last year with morning wake is he just wanted to throw it around. It's just it's not in his d._n._a. To commit to that but i think you're right i mean you saw a little bit last year when they ran that mesh with with gus edwards that's a load man that dude is huge and it was tough to stop and for whatever reason you know warning bugs like all right. Let's start to throw it around. It's like okay. Hey let's do that. That's a lot better than what you were doing there with the with the option so as they say ad nauseam if you ever watch an option based team run base team in college football they always say this team's not built to come from behind which which always then begs the question in the n._f._l. Win everybody's scores thirty seven points just about every game. It feels like it begs the question well. That was a bad idea offensively. Build your team. That can't rally. You're gonna find yourself behind the games. We have to have the defense to go with it but i yeah i oh by the way i mean. That's the question if the ravens defense isn't shutdown again like it was last year then this definitely doesn't work but i get the sense that they are going to be just because the name brands left <hes> doesn't mean that they're doomed to fail it works. It'll be fun. It'll be like the help it doesn't work because i really steelers division so they can still win the division and it can work yeah let them get knocked out in the world because actually which is kind of what that type of offense shout out. It's time to shut it down here but one more question question and until you say that i'm gonna keep saying one more question. We should let money get our one more question. Then kirk cousins good enough money to win the n._f._c. north this season because arab. I wanna go with us. I'm on board with alvin cook. I like what mike zimmer love. The receivers pretty pretty consistently do with just about any defense. Let alone this town. Lions show too was better last year bat while they yeah they. They tried to address it a little bit. I think dalvin cook is. I said that in twenty the eighteen if he's healthy he's the thing go forget kirk cousins but now it does appear that he is healthy so you say yes i do. I think they are good enough because i still have a ton of questions about trubisky and whether or not he really is a quarterback that can win a division back the bat you know they can win division routinely. I think there's a ton of questions nations about the packers defense. I don't know what the heck they were doing. Let mike daniels go. I don't understand that maybe there's just something. Obviously there are much smarter than i am so i think there's questions there defensively ably so yeah and then of course there's the lines so i think <hes>. I think he's good enough sad for the poor lions. Nobody gives some any any shot at all and matt. Patricia had a full year to overhaul things. Go ahead use that pencil on that laminated card as long as you're not but as long as you're not doing it based on what you've seen in august. That's that's not impacting. Your decision impacts everything. It's all about the preseason for me. Let's see what those what fifty fifty four through ninety looks like and i'm gonna make my decisions based on that. I'm back at wearing the number forty jersey like he's really good wonder if matt stafford actually actually the guy that wears number forty for the chargers gonna make the team chris. He is really good. That's great ford whatever you've all the number. I've i have to watch an inordinate amount of of fourth quarter preseason game because that's when some of our international plays a playing and everyone's like wait. What what am i looking at the numbers roll wrong. Everything's off like the defensive ends wearing number. There's a linebackers at work. The other linebacker wearing number eight is a linebacker worrying number forty one. You just like notre. Dame ain't helping they're. They're the number one culprits of putting single digits. It's on the defensive linemen and it makes it possible for me to evaluate. They don't look right out there. Lebron big or not yeah on penn state with that just was it to eleven yeah had just what eleven and then you just see mammoth newman being destroyed everything in its wake our last last question all right since you love your ear <hes> preseason so much. Oh yeah based on what you've seen. He's been great you by the pittsburgh steelers as a as a top five question this year no question was. I thought it was best defense. The chargers saw last year. Defensive line is nasty. It's it's it is. I mentioned the chargers might have the best. That'd be the other when i put in there with them. Thing is really yeah. I i mean i love is great. I just have no depth though allu- throws you know. I don't know some teams have a rotation going up there. The steelers do not think that the liability day they're my pick to win the a._f._c. north. I think last year ton of distractions actions money's talk in might get me excited a little bit now. Just have to hope rothlisberger doesn't retire before the season he's allowed to if he does is of if he doesn't. He's gonna he's gonna remind you four or five times that he could you might right. He'll remind that he's thinking about it that week. The week he'll remind and he's thinking about it now only when he has a bad game when he plays well then then he talks about the old cowboys receiver is in pittsburgh when it's all seddon who ends up with the most touchdowns yardage opposite you chew. It's gotta be james washington. Dante moncrieff. I do think has seems like a steelers receiver i think and by the way i think that this is one of those things that you know people they love to do the put a guy in a different situation and all that and the hypothetical and then reality okay. I think this is where you will see you know rather burger for whatever all this stuff but i mean the san antonio homes and plex akal kaal and mike wallis and there are a number of the only exception to that rule is emmanuel sanders guys tend to put up up their best numbers with ross burger because he is above leave league averaging so these guys are going elsewhere. The only place where that wasn't true is with manny sanders go to today's moncrieff elevates <hes> what do you what do you say it just crispell impressions this name names. You just did that yourself but you will yeah the name soup. I was just naming guys who had their best season antonio mike wall that was heinz war. There was plaxico burress. There were saying antonio hot. Look there are a lot of good wide receivers in pittsburgh but ben rothlisberger is distraught that stirs the drink like jerry saying about also long ago. What a long strange trip in spain back on the blitz so good that i was listening listing those knowing that made sense that was too good to yeah. That's how i ended all right. We can talk about star wars the next time okay all right thanks money. Anywho again made a note here. We didn't have any can't round mom voicemails for you next week but this is back right alan hallowed occasion for this is our first our first show together since may twenty third. When are we doing another one hopefully next week right. Can we do in claims. James <unk> flags come and next week i also mean times is going to be in studio. We'll look forward to cape. It's it's in with her. We got to catch up with brinson to do our n._f._c. South annual quarterback rankings which we never get right. I still have to tell you some teams that aren't going to make it to the playoffs much to achieve before kick-off. 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Andrew Luck's status, Eli vs. rookies, Cowboys D, Raiders drama

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Andrew Luck's status, Eli vs. rookies, Cowboys D, Raiders drama

"Good morning welcome to first thing is when they morning sitting at a sagacity gives pro. Some bitterness in china that are wonderful camera crew stops taking this abuse chris carter missile missile tickles day. They'll go is a full contract with handsy with his nickname. We got a lot to get to today. You know the script. Andrew lock has a nagging injury that we don't know much about that has kept him sidelined for for months now or in other words. It is deja vu all over again well. Here's the latest. The colts jam said yesterday in the course of dealing with lux calf off injury. It appears that now we've got an ankle issue lux week. One status against the chargers is now uncertain. Keep in mind. This happened back in april april. That is almost five months ago. He is played. Maybe or practice maybe three times since then see now. What is your level of concern with. Andrew lock red alert really high when we mentioned this a couple of weeks ago as far as the calf when we start training camp was i concerned as far as because right now in sports. You have to realize what we're going through. What happened to kevin durant. Sent shock waves not only through the n._b._a. But through sports anyone who works out anyone the one who has a calf strain you are going to at least think about what happened to katie because the colts you could tell they they talked about. They talked about the kevin durant situation not around it. They talked about his own. They all sat down and talked about it because you can believe that what happens happens to athlete. It's a ripple effect so right now with andrew luck. This is something that i've never seen i've seen guys try to rehab injuries and because of compensation typically either they strain hamstring strain their other calf because their body is not balanced but andrew luck up. I do know this. He is a work a hallway and if he is not on the practice field not practicing and for the duration you pointed out april originally diagnosed in april. They've had a number of scans several scans on the calf. This is a problem all the time that they've missed young receivers trying to get report. How did they build on air. Iran the pro bowl season he had last year the second round pick out ohio state paris paris campbell. It slows down his overall development. Yes this is a huge concern. If you talking about a team that could come from the normal teams. We talk about and win the super bowl. It's them it could be the colts and they were one in five and they won eleven games in a row including the dominating pale over houston until they ran the kansas city. They were extraordinary last season down the stretch they we had to be or they won ten of eleven. I think it was down the stretch including the playoff when i should say and now here's where we're at with gen a utah based on it since april missed all vo t._a.'s missed minicamp has practiced three times in a limited capacity. It was a calf strain. The owner jim irsay in an interview yesterday said he's dealing with a small bone issue which according to doctors and indianapolis there's some speculation it's calcification due to the calf strain not not just so. It seems like a bone but it's like a bone like you'd have kodaira arm exactly and now we're talking about his ankle. This is really dangerous. Territory for andrew luck in twenty fifteen he missed half the year in twenty sixteen played almost the whole year but he was compromised clearly in two thousand seventeen i mean he did not play at all and so you cannot discuss him at this point this deep into his career without discussing a major health concern and which you never saw you didn't see it at stanford his first three years he was sixteen. Sixteen sixteen played all those games but it is not. I'd i almost feel better if this were a recurring shoulder injury but this is totally different part of the body a totally different issue is dealing with i. I wanna ask you one quick question see he had said i'm not gonna play. I'm not one hundred percent. It's not fair to my team. It's what the team okay. That's fine for the preseason. Once the regular regular season starts should that be his standard that he is not going to be go out there if he's not one hundred percent with the calf injury you have to realize we can't can't hold him accountable. What he said and training camp off season. The stakes aren't the same right so why be out there when i know that i'm only limited and he had had a window to try to heal in that window. He didn't heal so. I believe that even if just like the guys on up right now you know when the doctor saw them making come back. It's amazing how all these injuries when l- around labor day we got hundred different injuries. All of them are going to hilo after labor day weekend. Sure so i understand that andrew lucked is a professional. He will push himself. I totally disagree with you. I would much rather be the shoulder absolutely really not because you can't play football with the bad shoulder you can get in the shotgun. Hand the ball off. Quick sets get the ball out of your hand and still be effective as a quarterback now the one positive thing about the colts. They got the best backup jacoby brusett in n._f._l. Him and teddy chaddy bridgewater. You can have your argument which one thing i believe both of them will be starters in the near future but if there is something that you can look from a positive standpoint standpoint they do have jacoby there who also filled in for love two years ago when he was hurt in a very very familiar with their personnel and they're also that's what i was. It's going to bring up at at what point after you've seen what has happened the last couple of years. Do you say all right. Maybe we should give jacoby. Were set a little more attention. Get came out there with the ones a little bit more. Maybe this all the time now he is but looking at him. Maybe more and not just the back. No no you don't ah you don't ever give up on your kid. You don't ever give up andrew. Look like you know what i mean you go. That's a new nick right. I mean they can't we just got nick apologize to andrew luck for the beginning of his career because for the right the beginning middle portion when he was hurt jinnah you just your kid kid weasel uber superstar yeah. We're all parents like you couldn't go to rehab as many times it needs to. You're gonna keep your all if we talk so much about windows and this is a good window for them. If you don't know who you're gonna get out their window doesn't exist without it but let me answer this. Let me answer this because their situation is better they they will err on the side of caution look signed up for a long time. They are not desperate like you say he says. The cowboys are desperate this year. No not desperately got a young team. They got salary cap and they're more apt to be patient. Go with jacoby to build a start off knowing that they might be able to keep andrew healthier theo for a portion of the season so that portion i totally agree with you yes and on the jacuzzi we were set situation it would to me. We have all this cap space. They didn't use a lot of this here. They're going to have it next year to kobe depending free agent i might prioritize bringing him back even if he gets back early in the season if he plays all sixteen games just to clarify the point. I was making about the shoulder quickly. I agree with you that for quarterback shoulder injuries the worst thing the point i was trying to make it was maybe made the wrong way because he is a quarterback is it's now a totally totally different type of injury. That's hampering him. It's not a player who has won recurring injury throughout their career. We've now dell. It's not career is not career ending but andrew luck with showed her thumb and his career was definitely altered and even he had anxiety thinking he could never play the same way he had played before high. Let's they break. Although there's still the same amount of mystery around this injury seemingly was with the shoulder and mutiny would talk about their health their training staff like multiple years all. We'll talk much more about this later on the show coming up. Why do the giants wanna keep rookie. Daniel jones off the field aids. Nick right and hiring is challenging but there's one place you can go. 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Check out defensive lineman bronson kaufusi getting his teammates excited aw <music>. We saw the kid from u._s._c. with his dad. I was a kid from u._s._c. Last year. It was dad. I think that's the haka did that. Dance which is is a cultural thing before one of the games it was l._s._u. Less you're my apologies not u._s._c. last year. That's really cool. That's a that's really cool. Did you see the offense. They gotta fight against him. They didn't they didn't take it as well as or was basically demonstrating straighten what he had taught them. Offense was not aware of it. They were just standing there at the tension trying to get them all involved no no incentive instance of going against each other john everybody up and going. I'm i'm very inclusive when it comes to hype and everything gene is known for inclusivity when it comes to jinnah jim and you'll see how in town for stores start your learning not without that much muscle after missing more than we could practice with his frostbitten feet and because they didn't like his helmet. Antonio brown officially returned to raiders training camp yesterday. Day has an actually taken the field yet but jon gruden does expect a._b. To be ready for week one chris carter will antonio's onfield production makeup for are the off field drama well. Why receivers have done this for years in coaches general managers. They accept it so yes. He is a fun nominal canonical football player. He has unusual quickness off the line of scrimmage his catch and run in the n._f._l. Is second to none you can get him the ball and short space he the double team he is phenomenal. I mean he is he's gotten so much. Better got his body stronger gotten faster since he's been in the league he's a great football so great football all player and we do associate this position with the more diva ish behavior but the the teams that except the most diva behavior are the teams that they're winning is coinciding with chatto joe cinco chad johnson was all good when the bengals were on the come up. They started on the downside all of a sudden. We went up time for with t. O. and with randy randy was much of divas te'o but when the team when you go to the super bowl you deal with it when all of a sudden it's not there you move on. That's that's my concern for a. B. and the raiders all right. We are moving on texans. Defensive engines avian cloudy is still holding out with reports that the all pro could be on the trading block all right nick. Where would you like to see clowney end up. I think there's a few interesting options if the texans were reportedly want to trade him for an offensive lineman the team that i find the most interesting one you saw him sacking the quarterback on what about philadelphia what about philadelphia adding to that defensive line rotation. They have four competent n._f._l. Tackles and great right tackle hall of fame left tackle all first round pick and by who we saw fillon more than competently a couple years ago so i think philly would be an excellent combination. I don't know what the texans thousands are doing by the way when it comes to one of the best players philly kim absorb his cap the cap the he'll half. He's gonna make too much money. They just paid carson wentz. They played <hes> brandon endon graham two years ago that set the structure that they had to get rid of my guy yeah that's why they had to send him off to new england so no he needs to stay right there with the texans i i believe he's an overrated football player. I believe the price tag is too high for him. I would stay there with j._j. Watt and the rest of that wrecking crew that they have there with the texans are moving on with contract negotiations still looming for dak prescott amari cooper anna zeki will elliott cowboys owner. Jerry jones is not worried. He's preaching being patients. Should the cowboys have a sense of urgency in locking up the big three no no absolutely not because they rushed to it. They're gonna make a mistake. It's already already going to be tough enough to be able to pull it off over the next year and a half the only way this is gonna work because if they get zeke to say hey man my contract demands. We'll do that next year. Amari take the franchise tag and let's try to work out a reasonable deal for that but everything nothing is leaning in favour accepted. Amari said i'm not the rook docklands over thirty million in zeke wants to reset the market as running back. They got problems on the win. This won't be worked out anytime soon and of the three players the only one on that proven as top of the league is position or even close to it is zeke. He's also the one with the most off field issues in fact he's the only one with any any off field issues and the most years left on his contract so it doesn't coincide with their priorities his priorities i think they would be best served if that continues to keep cheapest demands at such a high level to walk away from the table with dak prescott and say price. I will revisit this later. I don't know if that's going to work with zeke all right. Let's move onto. The packers is now all one hundred fifty eight of aaron. Rodgers starts have come under one head coach so in green bay brought in a new young up and coming rookie coach and matt low-floor this off season season rumblings immediately began to the tune of could these two coexist but if you ask aaron rodgers the relationship is the least of his worries you have to set aside your ego and sensitivity communicate honestly about <hes> your feelings and then know who the boss's i think he said it best the other night. I made a kind of crack about it. We have a great line of communication. I'm not sitting here wishing people. I wish she just knew mm-hmm this. I don't care. I don't need to go out and prove to anybody how great matt nagy around him stand up there and say out great hispan- we're having a great time. We're communicating and conjectures for clinton news stories. You guys can put on your websites. It say he's a funny guy. He's he's. He's a funny guy. I do like a portion of the sound bite there and as far as he doesn't have to prove that him and the coach get along. Nobody nobody care too care about brady and belle check systematic. We know who the boss is and we know they get the job done now. People tried to have these questions. Oh who's more deserving credit. Who's more responsible at the end of the day it don't matter you got one boss. He's the head coach as long as aaron. Rodgers knows i would never their relationship is it doesn't matter it's about the results. Are they going to be a physical football team. They are they going to run the ball and utilize their running back. Is there defense based on all the money they spent going to live up to the structure. This team did it pay off in that in the first off season. Those are the things are really important for the green bay packers because the green bay packers need to try to get them back into the playoffs and give that guy a chance to win. Another super bowl bats the winning former. That's what's important. How many games are gonna win. Can they get to the play offs. It's not a matter of matt leflore aaron rodgers how well they're getting getting along. Football is three phases special teams defense and offense. We'll talk about one phasing green bay and that's the phase with aaron aaron rodgers and the coach iraj is a great player. He can play in any system in the n._f._l. He can adapt to any system probably better than any other quarterback him and patty mahomes both mobility. Both of them have a rocket arm. If you want to run the ball forty times they're great and play action so i don't have a problem think errands. I don't have a problem with the coach. The results is our what we should be concerned about in green bay nick how much of those results will be based on their relationship shape. How much of everything just laid out is based on those two getting along the coach and the quarterback this year i think minimally and i think this year that i would be flabbergasted guested if this year publicly rogers and leflore don't get along great because it is in both of their best interests. Their incentives are perfectly aligned here i do not i don't know if last year mccarthy and rogers incentives perfectly aligned because i think one of roger's incentives have been i'd like a new head coach and so so but rogers knows that the best case scenario for him is that matt lauer floors his head coach the rest of the way because the only way he's not is if they have another another disastrous season or two and they have to move on and now we're entering the late thirties of aaron rodgers career matt leflore knows that there there were some people around the league really this is going to be the head coach of the green bay packers and if he flames out with that guy quarterback his next jobs. It's not gonna be n._f._l. Head coach you might get that eventually again but he's going to have to go back to the coordinating wrong so it is in both of these guys interest to set whatever ego they have have aside to a degree and make it work figure it out and i trust rogers talent as much as any quarterback in the league and i don't know that much about what matt laforest football mind except for talking to chris who sat down with matt leflore last year when the titans offense looked pretty pedestrian if i'm being honest and chris said before we had any going to be the head coach of the packers men that coordinator kind of coordinating with a hand tied behind his back if he had real talent quarterback fiat a better roster. I think he'd be you the recent now right a really interesting n._f._l. Play caller that was three months before we knew he was gonna have the most talented quarterback as his as the franchise quarterback yeah so. I don't think this will be a major story. This year and i understand rogers frustration because they ha- there hasn't been a real reason for us to talk about it except for the fact of what roger's other relationships have been in continuing to do this. We are missing a good story. This is the best green bay team had the last five years we keep talking about. The coach in in the quarterback is if they already have a problem and we're missing the fact that this might be our super bowl champ because if they give aaron rodgers any type of help. Have we forgotten who aaron rodgers is like. Let's this is a good football team. People minnesota are terrified of green bay and terrified five of the of the of the bears and rightfully so because both of them are very talented and one of the big complaints with the packers prior to this. This past year was not about got the coach as much as was about the structure management. They don't spend money in free agency. They run active there. They don't bring in talent this offseason. They went out and brought in some talent allan pressman caesaria smith. They went out there and got to pass rushers in that regard. You've talked about them. Upgrading their running game rogers win healthy makes the playoffs. That's been the case every year of his career. He's healthy this year. I totally agree with chris carter. It would not shock me at all. If this team represents the n._f._c. in the people didn't know my last name either okay well. I'm cici. I'm sure nobody wants the season to start faster than than matt leflore and aaron rodgers to get off this topic so we i will do just that moving onto the giants now couple of things we do know. Eli manning is thirty eight years old. He's on the news career and clearly according to giants brass still good enough to start and thrive but when the giants spent their sixth overall draft pick this year on duke quarterback daniel jones many expected to cube battle to begin immediately but not giants owner john maher. He's still thinks eli who won them. Two super bowls can win them. More hope realized a great year. Daniel never sees field. I mean it'd be in an ideal world. You'd like to see that so <hes> but again it's the end of the day is going to be decision by the head coach to win or if daniels plans year that's really give you would. I mean obviously you want team to win a lot of games and make the playoffs but <hes> if daniel it doesn't play one snap as a rookie. You'd be okay with that very happy about that because it means it. We're having a great year. And what was your reaction to that nick i i i understand what he's saying. Believe it or not yeah. The idea is that hey if we start off ten and three and we're the story the league that surprise story that means allies playing great it means daniel jones isn't a part of it and that's what their goal is to me but that's not gonna happen like just go ahead and set that aside like that's. That's not a real realistic scenario. What is more interesting is what if the giants are better than i expect them to be and just middling right around five hundred all year along your and your with three weeks left in the december. Yeah exactly right with three weeks left in the season your seven six and it's like wait. If if we real off these next three we can sneak into the plus. Remember when we snuck into the playoffs in twenty two thousand seven or twenty eleven in that scenario that i actually believe leave is the worst case scenario for the giants. 'cause that will keep daniel jones on the sideline prevent him from getting real game experience. It will give them false. Hope about ally moving forward word it will slow this whole process down so of course you'd prefer with a month left to be eleven to you know what might be better be. The second best option. Pardon me is to be to eleven. Daniel jones already with two months of starting with a few games left to go in the season and john mero understandable. He's the owner chairman. He doesn't even want to think about that possibility but that it is a real possibility it might be the more likely of the possibilities and that's the one giants fans in management has to prepare for the giants in our love the the mayor of family man they've been this job and but they've been put under the gun in these little sound bites the last number of years and a lot of them have proved to be wrong what they were saying but they started off with initial. I asked this question would team in the n._f._l. Could've lost had a losing record five out of the last six seasons and would be comfortable with their starting quarterback who was part of all that no other team to me. Besides new york football giants this team amos had losing seasons five all the last six so him sitting there saying allies getting ready to have a great year which matches the comments of the general manager manager gettleman when all surprisingly had a great year last year. I'm still waiting on that footage to reveal the world so the giants are in a bad that situation anytime you draft a quarterback in the top ten and we know the situation for eli. Those two super bowls are over every decision that they made with e he by the last couple of years. They fired a coach when he benched him right in it owner just said that it's the coach's decision but is it really because the last that made that decisions decisions no longer i mean the the decision was revoked a week later nor is the gentleman he was fired. They were they were both. Let go this is an organization that is unlike any other during the league in their lack of a better term obsession with their quarterback. The these glory days of the two super bowls has seemingly gotten him carte blanche to to play out the end of his career however he seems to want to and eli is a great guy. Everyone loves eli manning so it's hard to fight against him. Even though you go ahead and they spend sixth overall draft pick on a quarterback even though the fans and everyone else seems to want to push eli out for the ownership there for the management there it would be for them to have a very good year and decide this would be his last year. Daniel jones is not ready to play n._f._l. Football football now the giants have put himself in this predicament by drafting. They've also put this confidence in ally. Eli has not played spectacular last several were years. He's been one of the most inconsistent quarterbacks that we've seen an n._f._l. The last twenty years so to think that this year with the lack of weapons with offensive line that i believe will be in the bottom half as far as most productive offensive line yeah they got one superstar and this barclay and they get ready to ride that new will until he passes and they're trying to have it. Both ways was in the new york. Giants to mix metaphors here are in the afternoon signing up for tender and bumble and in the evening going to marriage counseling pick a lane you can't you can't be flirty seeing what's next while also saying we're okay yeah. You're you're looking to see what's out out there while saying we're going to make this work. No you can't do both. He can't pair away your talent draft a quarterback number six and say we we know what phase we're in and then also say our year sixteen quarterback is a guy we think can start the next year or two silver great football in front of pick a lane. They're trying to ride on the median that results in car crashes and that's unfortunately what i think. They're going to face a lot of this year all right. Let's take break coming up. We'll antonio brown's talent. Outweigh brown straw the super bowl champ chris canty. What's up chris gentle mist that footwork display for me or you try to convince yourself. You still got it. Oh no no i still got my hands are still nice and my footwork especially the top of the route. I'm doing this coaching video for wide receivers training wide receivers next month's so okay. I've been getting myself in shape and run some intervals videos for certain very low cost one hundred bucks. You can get chris carter. Say anything to you on the cameo palmos cameo tell you whatever you absolutely daughter good to have you back from vacation. Vacation mode cowboys all pro defensive end robert. Quinn win appealed his two game suspension for violating the n._f._l.'s p._d. Policy only appeal was denied. That's coming off of surgery to repair a broken left hand and you think dallas is newest weapon would be hard pressed to find a silver lining but according to quinn this is just part of the journey was just like there's nothing you know. I've been to a lot worse than you know messed up hand and a couple of games <hes> this just life you deal with them. Uh you deal with adversity makes you weaker stronger so that's there's not a personality. Do all right chris kenny how concerned are the issues on that defensive line for the cowboys concern from the standpoint that you need a good defensive line to play really good defense the cowboys as a team there led by their defense. This has been a defense. That's been top five in either points or yards for the past three years so you're talking about the entirety of the dak prescott era so if you don't have a good defensive line it's gonna be hard for this team to be able to play complementary football. It's not just wherever it's not just robert quinn tyrone crawford is dealing with the situation. He got into a barroom incident in florida in march and and so he's in a ram right now so we don't know what's going to happen. Demarcus lawrence dealing with a shoulder injury that he had to get cleaned up this off season also randy gregory. We don't win. We could expect him back because he's been suspended indefinitely c._c. I know you made this point several times on the show but this is. I don't know how many consecutive seasons the dallas cowboys cowboys have started with a defensive lineman under suspension you can tho dan backer are defend linebacker or defender david ervine. Was there some at some point too so there's been a lot of defensive lyman being suspended at the start of the season and i don't know how sustainable this is going to be for the dallas cowboys to be able to play top notch defense when you don't have those guys up front to get after rod marinelli scheme. He doesn't like to tunnel blitzing. He knows the let the front four rush into back seven guys cover. I don't know how you're going to get after the quarterback. If you don't have those guys available available it's not a whole lot of proven death behind the starting front four for that dallas cowboys defensive line so it is a little bit of an issue this off season. We've talked about the cowboys more and then any other team and part of that is because of the cowboys america's team. I get that part of it. The other part of it is because they have do. They are dealing with more adversity. Issues conflict flicked then damn near any other team in football not a lot of teams whose best player is currently holding out for a new deal clowns not there. I get that you got melvin gordon but he's not the best player on that team. Williams who might be the best player in washington. He's all but then there's zeke with dallas they also have to deal with their quarterback's contract and they're wide receivers zero contract and all of that is almost a secondary issue to the devastation. They're facing on their defensive line right now. Those four names you mentioned mentioned might be the best defensive lineman to mark lawrence definitely is he waited the shoulder surgery understandably. I get why did it because he was going to wait till he got his contract but now he's on the populist. Demarcus are tyrone crawford appending free agent extra by the way he's on the list you mentioned robert quinn suspension and rainy gregory who you don't know if he's he's ever coming back. We don't know what that is. He's dealing with suspension. Why is that so bad. In addition to the lack of pass rush the cowboys strengthened their defense is probably not they're dealing to probably their core of linebackers sean lee the veteran jalen smith a potential top ten pick dealt with a devastating injury and layton dangerous a first round pick. Those guys can't run free if you've got replacement level tackles and d. lineman in front of them trying to occupy blockers who can't and while byron jones had a great year last year the biggest weakness of the cowboys defense the last few years has been the secondary so now all of a sudden the d. line makes the linebacking core worse. The second part of your question works on and oh yeah by the way all the controversy this off season has to do with guys on the offense of it. The cowboys chris fully healthy. Everyone in camp fully locked in to me would be real competitor's with the eagles to win the division. The cowboys is presently constituted. You've struggled to find how they would get above five hundred <hes>. There's a number of things going wind around you watch n._f._l. Training camps. I watch all the shows because i try to find out because the league is forever changing. Even though it's the same it goes through trends right now what we're going going to see new england what they did last year running the football being physical around training camps are going to see more too tight end offenses. You're going to see more fullback. Offenses and teams is trying to balance their said. I believe that the most miss thing this off season has been especially in in training camp has been the lack of attention attention on dallas in their lack of what they're going to present from a defensive front rod. Marinelli does a unbelievable job. I thought you did a good job as far as point now how good this defense is because we don't talk about them enough and we talked about the offense players. We talk about the contracts. We talked about z. We talked about jerry. We talked about stephen but man angels who go aspiration defensive line if they don't get this line room squared away and jerry has taken a chance over the last five six years as far as taking chances questionable signings rinaldo mclean signing him he'd get suspended randy gregory u._k. Rehab the whole world man and they had one of the guys like randy gregory and not been working with them but you can't save them all in jerry always things that he he can give a guy an opportunity to get his life turned around and by making that chance he is jeopardized the season because they have not been dependable and now now he signs a guy who we didn't think he thought a guy grownup was coming here and robert quinn and was gonna play opposite of demarcus lawrence but at right defensive end. I'm chris canty. We'll tell you left hand broken. That's his post hand. So how good is he going to be for the first two months of the season when you can't post this this own an offensive lineman you're russian ability is affected. He's probably going to have a noble on it and he's a speed guy. He's not a power guy. He's a speed guy god for me. That injury sets him back for at least the first two months of the season and they have no type of up and down. That line can't no they. Don't have any and it's dangerous dangerous when you start talking about a team that has championship aspirations because you have to line up and stop people when you think about that thursday night game. They played at the days giving us to orleans. It wasn't the the office that won that game the defense yes playing lights out out of their minds. I mean when you think about the landscape of the n._f._c. You're going to have to deal with green bay amer rogers. You're going to have to deal with new woah. You're going to have to deal with philadelphia. The seahawks the rams honor. Those ends are good offense is you're gonna have to slow them down so if you have no depth and if some of these these guys are out from either injury or or suspensions what are your options if you're the cowboys and you're trying to shore up that d. line play a track meet. We got to score a lot of points dax. Gotta throw the ball because people don't realize the defensive line it affects your quarterback and because now i can't be patient. I king grounded out the reason why dallas can be a super bowl contender because their team matches up their best player office defense ezekiel elliott he eats up to club in eight games last year where they they were on the field less than thirty minutes that defensive line got beasley and they allow them linebackers to run up and down the line of scrimmage and bill to make plays that secondary was able to be protected but it's in unison zeke running behind that powerful offensive line protecting my young quarterback that defensive line ray rush the passer they keep people off my linebackers that are special group protects. My secondary bit is probably the least effective of all it goes. Andrew luck has a nagging injury that we don't know much about. That's kept him sidelined for months now. Here's the latest colts general manager said yesterday in the course of dealing with lux calf injury. It appears that now we've got an ankle issue lucks week. One status against the chargers is now uncertain. Keep in mind. This is an injury that happened back in april. It was almost five months from now kenny <hes> <hes> what is your level of concern with andrew lock and this call it a leg injury well. You have to be concerned because we're going on five months now and we're still talking about. Andrew luck not being comfortable off table and him saying that there's something wrong. He's not right and in jim irsay shed more light on an interview he did yesterday. We said it's not necessarily the kevin durant thing yeah. This is more of something to do with the bone lower legs. I you know what the whole thing is is ambiguous and we just really don't understand we're we're andrew. Luck is at what kind of timetable we can have out there so we can expect him. Back is this. We have in this conversation right now. Two years ago so that sounds like a lot of the discussion about a shoulder order and standard shoulders much more detrimental for quarterback with a lot of the opaqueness regarding the injury the timeline of when he would be lingering fads or say come out and give an interview that seems to go against versus a couple of years ago it was like it's mostly between the ears and not so it feels a little deja abu wish even if this isn't obviously the level of concern we had two years ago. No it does and his team has done a good job of trying to put players around andrew luck to protect them. They were more more reliant on the running game than in years past feeding marlin mac allowing that offense to have a little bit of balance trying to keep some hits off edge. Look who's only sacked eighteen times last year. That's by far and away the least amount of times he's been sacked a full season so they're doing some good things from a personnel standpoint from an xs and os standpoint to try to protect them but at some point andrew luck has got to be able to get back out there i mean you're you're talking about competing in the a._f._c. South which is quietly going to be competitive division issue when you consider the houston texans and the jacksonville jaguars getting their quarterback situation fixed with nick foles and of course the tennessee titans. I mean this is not a division where you can afford to give away games and so when you look at their schedule schedule and how it lays out four i five opponents are a._f._c. opponents so this is a team that has playoff aspirations they need luck to be healthy starting week one and if they want to try try to get home field advantage only stop them from potentially having that last year was that bad start got off to one and five one and then call fire but andrew luck the reason i do have concern not if concerns i was with the shoulder because the shoulder you guys have to remember it was part getting hit hit an a snowboard incident that he hey remember he started trying to trying to play with that after he thought he was misdiagnosed by training staff now the training staff. Is that still the same training staff. That's involved in this car. The reason why i'm concerned about the calf was i tore my calf on this show. I talk talk about it. That's the reason why i knew about the kevin durant thing now in the off season typically you try to get everything cleaned up. He talked about getting the scan in april before you start working working out with the team so typically you can take the slow route not the very aggressive route that doctors have you take during the regular season so my concern is even even taking this nice and slow it has not healed up now is for the calcium deposit on ankle. That's the same thing that i had my my got calcification around my ankle and ultimately had to have it surgically removed but i couldn't have it removed until the following off season because of course the doctor they tell you what you can play through it. During the regular season so based on the way they protect the quarterback the way they run the football. They run a lot of inside zone own. They can operate their offense a lot from the shotgun which would take a lot of pressure off the k._f. And off the ankle but you have to have concern when you don't have players players who aren't hadn't been available for the last three months but a handful of practices that should cause football fans to be concerned art so two points here. One is on your point about the division the a._f._c. south for a long time was the worst division football or certainly on the short list. They are now the only division football in the last two years. All four teams have made the playoffs offs two years ago. Jacksonville and tennessee made the playoffs and by the way each one a playoff games last year houston in indy replace them in the playoffs with indian houston obviously playing each other wildcard weekend so i don't think the top level of that division enlists culture fully functional is as good as the top level of the other divisions but we talked to this off the earth think couple of weeks ago for your trip that the basements actually pretty high. They're the worst team in the a._f._c. south team unless you think the titans are gonna totally fall off now the other the point is this for look first year second year third year better better better by third year m._v._p. Candidate forty touchdowns they they got to the conference sprint championship game then he's injured in year four misses half the year in year five he plays the entirety this season except for one game but clearly is not quite himself and in your six he misses the whole year last year after the first month of the year looked like same old andrew luck and a good way now with this it gotta be careful now and what his career actually should be and is going to be we talked for the show about a name dante culpepper dante culpepper did not have the profile coming out of college obviously and dante dealt with one devastating injury that changed everything but dante first six years of his career was extraordinary ninety three rating which at the time very very good almost one league m._v._p. One year dealt with an injury was never the same. This is not this isn't quite apples to oranges but a quarterback that was looking like oh he's only a top five quarterback for a decade plus we have seen that story change and for andrew luck to now be dealing with a lower body injury where he's not going to be under start the season if he does start the season has to be incredibly concerning for big differences. Andrew completed the game with his head and we've seen drew brees. Do we've seen tom brady. Do and it's different. I know nick sabin said at that time if you're going to bet on a quarterback bet on one with a bad knee compared to a bad shoulder that's what he did. As long as andrew luck throw the ball you can put him in the shotgun and he can operate in this very less than physical n._f._l. That we've seen so he's playing at the right time and he played for a long period of time. I do believe they'll. They'll get this cleared up but he's like a lot of the players. He's gonna start the season injured and trying to push himself to chris kenny. What is your confidence in jacoby perset. Oh i have. I have the utmost confidence into kobe. You gotta remember. Jacoby is a bill parcells guy. I mean he gave the seal of approval and that's why bill belichick went ahead and acquired him because jacoby percent showed that he had the ability to be able to process the game and play the game now. I don't like to throw around the term game manager but i think jacoby percent is a really good game manager manager so if he's got to step in for any period of time in an absence of andrew luck. I feel confident that he'll be able to get the job done. He'll be able to keep the team afloat but this is a team. That's coming into twenty twenty nineteen with championship aspirations. They expect to be in the playoffs so i mean if you're going to be in the playoffs then you need to be your quarterback. My thing is this. Go ahead and get the injury cleaned up. Let's put a time out there when we can expect him back and so we can move forward once he's back on the field the lasting that can afford as that he comes back the only problem you recognize this guy don't you agree taken on iran and and a feeble world cup tune-up that iran is not known for its international basketball argument however really e. Greece what neither until this guy i yawn is league m._v._p. Main greece could do some damage in this tournament. You feeling basketball see who got the best player. He's got the best player in the tournament next up dejean jinro of the university of houston throwing down a big alleyoop this while they were on tour in italy. Oh absolutely love those college. Tours kids get some great experience experience not they're not there for the crowd noise and everything claims as you can see that jin traveling abroad as a college student what an experience all right next up is a._m. Rivera tap in the ball off his foot and putting it down. This is the kid we saw yesterday. Jump over over the guy and do kobe's kobe's feet oh. I can't tell what shoes he's got on. He is tapping off the foot. This is wildly impressive. I did this on a volleyball spike and someone took a picture of it. I'm bringing in. It's more you always say. Let me see proof tomorrow. I will bring in a picture of the same thing. We've got athletes on the settling nice. Did you hit the five year olds in the head. No it was i was a far city game at high school. I'm bringing in volleyball. You can't run and hold the ball wait. You can grab that same post very much. Okay just when the raiders acquired antonio brown. No one was happier than oakland six-year ear quarterback derek carr but with a._b. Missing more than a week of practice with frostbitten feet and a helmet grievance. Everyone wondered if the chemistry between abe and d. a._c. like a._b._c._d. We'll be ready for week. One everyone that is except the aforementioned derek carr. He's here now so <hes> <hes> we'll be ready to go week one. We got a lot of time until then <hes> you know obviously short week this week playing a game on on thursday <hes> but <hes> with asset. We have so much time to get some get. Some game plan plays down some route. Certain certain cuts that we're going to have him run all those things. You've got plenty of time so the fact that he's here is uh good science good for us ceasing. You talked so much about how important it is to get on the same page with your quarterback. We hear stories of tom brady all off season working with guys that he's already played with like element. How long will it take for car and a b. to do that to get on the same page a._b. Hasn't even really been in there yeah well. This is one thing that wide receivers that they miss out on a lot of times when they changed teams or they change offenses that i know when i lost brian billick that i i lost some of the understanding that him and i had some of the flexibility like i knew the system as good as him and in the quarterbacks but there's little little like loopholes in the system and you see certain defenses that you can ad-lib or you have years two years ago when we played against the bears they tried to double team me and the double team guy was a little shallow to the slot so we went behind him and threw it to the back of the end zone. We always defer back to that an a. b. He's got a lot of ad lib in him with ben rothlisberger and that was one of the things that was successful but it was also one of the things things that when they had a problem with it that they aired it to the media so when you change teams you don't have that flexibility. He doesn't no the system as good a quarterback or as good as jon gruden and jon gruden is not a coach that likes to give the wide receivers a lot of flexibility. He likes to call it and run it exactly no matter what the defense is so a._b._c.'s going to have to build a workout some stuff and he's gonna get double team. They're they're gonna force the ball to him. When he's getting double team that was fine in pittsburgh but will it be fine in oakland. There's a lot of things on the field. They have to work work out because a is the number one weapon and they're going to try to take him away. Let alone just what n._f._l. Defenses it's it's gonna be tough to pull out them numbers. He's a great player but to me. A twelve hundred yards season would be a great season and have that quarterback develop look. I don't want the quarterback making bad reads throwing the ball to a star receiver and that's what happens typically when you have a wide receivers which teams so we hear about college college to pro one of the big differences in college seed open. Is this far open and in the pros. It's this far open. You can use a similar analogy. I feel like with with a great quarterback. This far open is open with a mediocre quarterback. He needs a bigger window in the other direction. A._p.'s only played with great quarterback ben roethlisberger. We've we've seen in the limited snaps. He's played a few games played when ben's been on the shelf. His production has gone off entirely. It's not entirely fault. They became more run. Orientated was he. He didn't go the new season with the understanding. I wanna hold that against him but this is going to be a major adjustment more so free antonio than for car for car. Yeah he's gonna have to realize what a where he wants the ball and where he's likely to freelance but it's always easier for the person dealing with more talent. It's always for cars like okay okay. I the best receiver read. That's awesome for antonio. It's the opposite but this year is vitally important to derek carr. We're a few years removed. Now from the year. Were derek carr was going to be a top. Three finish wasn't gonna win the m._v._p. Your matt ryan was but before he broke his leg last the year after that year four for derek carr he was bad last year he was better but it was dinxin dunks. No quarterback in football average fewer air yards per pass. Dan derek carr now is that because of him or is that because of the talents that because they got rid of amaury they didn't have enough receivers who could get open downfield. Oh i guess we'll find out this season didn't have offense lyon last year. A lot of reasons to jersey jon brune system sure or is that or is the answer d. all of the above lack of amari car and grew all of it but derek cars on this contract correct that by the way next year get out of it for nothing like if they wanted to move on from derek carr call some five million bucks dead money next year you can. I'm not saying that their plan but i think it is something they've contemplated now. The flip side is at twenty five million if he gets back to what he wasn't your three. He's a bargain in today's n._f._l. When winds making thirty two russell's making thirty five and you go into next year with a star quarterback star wide receiver but this year is vitally important for derek cars future sure with this franchise which whi while the noise has been surrounding a b the person who might be paying the heaviest price for it is actually d._c.'s. You put take a moment ago. Let me ask you a question about antonio brown. You have a talent like that. It what's the timing on how long it takes for him to get used to the offense for him to just just jump right in it. It doesn't look like it's going to be tomorrow before he gets out on the field and he's able to cut again with his feet. I'm just curious if this is going to bleed into the regular season of them still still trying to get to know each other we we have to. We have to go back to the off season. He's been there the whole off season. They have o._t._a.'s. They have installation. They have the mini camps so he knows the offense. It's not a matter of that. It's just a small little things what if a defender on my upfield shoulder. Where's the quarterback going to throw the ball if they have covered to as an adjustment. What's the route adjustment off of that. What's the verbiage what because there's a lot of options that are sane but they they say different things and minnesota. If i had a deep end they would just call me x. In if you're going to another offense they might call it dallas where you have the x. In in z. has the post so some of its memory some some of its numbers and some of it is a combination of both and you need to get live bullets when you're tired win. The free radicals are in your brain when lactic tick acid and then you get to play and try to work it out. That's the thing that we take for granted the chemistry that he had with been ross rather rothlisburger that has to be developed there in oakland it does take some time. He knows the place but they're going to force feed him the ball and a quick strike offense. They're gonna throw him the ball at the line of scrimmage a lot. Their offense was throw the ball short. He's one of the best in the business of getting short suspect them to do that and to build off of that and the raiders listen they went out this off season and to try to help derek carr. They trade for antonio brown. They signed tyrone williams at a pretty rich contract for years forty four million they draft hunter renfro in the fifth fifth round draft a running back in the first round they give trent brown all that money on the right side of the offensive line the the problem the raiders lash more anything was a horrific defense. They focused on the offense this year. Most nobly i know they spend the fourth overall pick on a pass rusher out of clemson and farrell but the derek guard not a lot of in my mind excuses for derek car this season one thing that defense is going to be bad again. They're going to be in a lotta high scoring game so watch the numbers because the numbers can be inflated and still not be a good football team for me. I believe a. B. has said this. I'm not about winning anymore. I'm about catching. I'm about my brand so he'll be a happy either three and thirteen if he had thirteen hundred dollars he'll be halved. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. 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Full Show - Andrew Luck retires, Brissett for Colts, Steelers potential?

"Warning and welcome to first things first some general hall of famer chris carter this right here is nick right. We they have been done for way too long. We are so happy to all three be back together on this so you can bob problem komo news komo parents say all the time we are going to start with the biggest story of the weekend probably yeah i'm the n._f._l. Seasons the thanks guys store that has has us reading and rereading it fully to comprehended impre- handed andrew luck stepping away from the game at age twenty nine. Perhaps the most shocking retirement in sports since what jordan may be ninety three luck luck retires with four pro bowls in seven n._f._l. Seasons he retired with the colts in the super bowl mixed this season and retires after coming off being named comeback player of the year twenty eighteen while andrew lock is no longer coming back to football amion retire. This is not an easy easy decision honestly the hardest decision on my life <hes> but it is the right decision for me for the last four years or so i've been in the cycle of injury pain rehab enjoy injury pain rehab and it's been unceasing and relenting unrelenting both in season both on and off season and i felt stuck in it and the only way i see <music> out to no longer play football <hes> it's it's taken my joy of this game away. You're and this sar dr. I've been stuck in this process. I haven't been able to live the life. I wanna live. You've taken the joy out of this game and after two thousand sixteen where i played in pain and was unable to regularly practice. I made a vow to myself that i would not go down that path again i find myself in a similar situation and the only way forward for me is removed myself from football in this cycle that i've been in com come to the proverbial fork in the road and i made a vow to myself that if i ever did again i would choose choose me in a a sense so guys. I think the news itself was almost surprising is everyone's reaction to the new c. tweeted right after you heard what was your reaction to andrew lock retiring. I mean totally shocked but it's <hes> football early. Retirements totally different than the other sports because what andrews talking about is reality see that all professional football players face at one point. Can i take the pain that my body is going to be. We talked about all the time. It's a collision collision sport. Yes absolutely it is but everyone doesn't have the mentality to be able to absorb those collisions and he talks about what he's been going through the last four years. Not just this april allows four months since he strained discount but i can understand that and i can have great diller empathy for for him. He said this was the toughest decision he's ever made and you have to look at when you're when you're in life. The decision you make are important especially as a young person is the most important decisions who you're gonna wanna be been where you're going to go to college and then ultimately what type of career you're going to choose and then who are you going to choose a spouse or significant other as a partner that you're going to walk through life in in this decision he made was more difficult than all those decisions because at some point in in life regardless of what you do you have to choose yourself and he couldn't put his body through what he's been through the last four or use me miss the whole entire two thousand seventeen season which in this day and age where the quarterback and playing quarterback is easier than ever ever just imagine how gut riches he goes back to plan some of the best football he's ever played last year getting them in the playoffs winning a playoff game and then now getting injured in calling it quits. I got tremendous sympathy for him. I could understand how he can come to this conclusion because because one i'm worried about right now. Was he talks about the last four years. I wonder how many painkillers he had to take into debt was that part of his decision making as he tries to go on you know to try to have fool life because for me you know that's one thing that i worry about being a professional athlete with all the surgeries and everything you paint tolerance and then with the opioid epidemic uh-huh going on was that something spooked him and say you know something. I can't take any more painkillers. I'm not going to have this my whole life this off season where my body is is not healing because typically n._f._l. Your body heals up before the next season but now he's getting report trauma on top of trauma compared to what was already going going on his head so i got nothing but respect for guys that play this game i notice game is brutal and for him to be a walkaway he probably walked away from or at least a quarter of a billion dollars at least ten more years of football plan at his highest level so for me it was gut wrench into bill to hear andrew seem choked up and and walk away from a game that we love and to me maybe the hardest part to here was when he said what the last four years have been like the cycle injury pain rehab injury pain rehab no finish line in sight no okay now. I finally have a clean break of it. He thought he had it last year briefly in that few months where he was fully early health was the best football was life and in this damn cap injury which turned into an ankle injury which turned into a lower leg injury which turned in from a two week to a two-month two months to a four month process. I was totally shocked. Oh i feel for him and i echo chris's empathy but on august fourth he told peter king he's playing week one on august nineteenth he told the owner i'm retire and you mentioned michael michael jordan and we can cross sports or staying football and talk about other shocking young players retiring almost all of them though had one thing in common whether it's calvin johnson or gronk or jim brown ages ago or gale sayers or berry sanders all of those guys to a degree if not completely we reached their potential. All of those guys are hall of fame caliber players all of those guys when they did stop playing you could say at least briefly got to the place. Everyone said i was going to get to andrew luck is walking away to cap injury among other things he's without ever having truly scratched the surface of what we all believed he was going to be and what he showed us. He was it wasn't potential. Oh that oh we overrated him. That wasn't the case we saw that in the twenty fourteen season and we saw last season win healthy how great he can be but andrew luck with which was we thought it'd be member jim. If we only win one super bowl of andrew luck it will be a disappointment. It will be a failure to they reached reached one a._f._c. championship game with andrew luck and he didn't have it's an odd situation because his career was ended due to injury but he didn't suffer a career ending injury and it's also i if this was a concussion or head trauma issue. I think it'd be looked at differently so the whole thing is unprecedented. There is not a great historical example of this is like player x. We've never seen something quite like this well. It's also andrew luck is one of the few players in the game who who stands out because he has talked about his love of the game his passion for wanting to be out there the way he hits guys and gives them an sort of atta. Oh boy when they when they you know they're defending be truly truly loved the game of football but i'm curious. Do you think he reached his potential. No he definitely didn't reach us potential and that's one of the sad bad things about it. Nick brings up a great point when you talk to athletes from any sport when as you get older one of the things that they did did not torment the great ones is a reach my potential you know when you don't reach your potential like andrew luck grew up dreaming of playing football. His dad was a football ballplayer. He's been around athletics so forget about what mel kiper an expert about him. What do you think andrew mundane about himself since he was a kid now. He's not a guy that that with all this talent. He's absent of ego injury. Luck knows that he didn't reach his potential and that's one of the sad things is far as his career being cut short one of the best movies ever one of the best lines from a bronx tale. Chazz palminteri character says it saddest thing in life is wasted talent and this wasn't wasted but it wasn't realized it was not fully realized and it's for reasons that are still a little mystifying. I understand what he's saying but he he is not obviously the first player to be on this cycle. He's not the first football player in fact he's back. Many football players has been on a cycle of. I missed the season with injury now this other nagging injury. He's the first player at that age at that ability at that position at that salary and future salary that chris points out to say you no what choosing me means walking away right choosing me means two weeks shy of my thirtieth birthday stopping the one thing i've done my my entire life and given his outside interests. His architectural engineering degree how into like history is i think i hope and i believe he can live a fulfilling life moving even forward but it is going to be for him. I don't know when he's going to wake up in a few days weeks months whenever and say i'm not a football player anymore and i don't think he participated he would be saying that until a decade from now all right well the colts no longer have andrew walker's their quarterback. They have to move on quickly. What should we expect from backup now. Starter starter jacoby percent. That's next on this one. You can always check us out on the fox sports channel on sirius x._m. We're back right up to this. Welcome back. We'll get to what's next for the colts in just a second but first niners chiefs in jimmy garoppolo finds matt breda in the back of the end zone after after a rough little early stretch garoppolo perfect perfect bomb on a zero point zero quarterback rating in week. Two of the preseason is the chief secondary in week three the preseason and he was dropping dimes. He looked really good credit to jimmy. Oh yeah n._f._l. Don't forget the chiefs defense home. Forget them. They're back at secondary. The jets drew brees connect to a michael. Thomas makes an absurd leaping grab this one good for a touchdown money might dude this stress. Trust the outside. Mike made all his money last year planning the slot. The also made that money this also that twenty million him andrew breezy hooking up he lets letting letting the people know i'm still hungry guy. Hi jared practice greg olson with a sweet on hand g rug when he is not injured which unfortunately not often he he is still one of the five best titans football. I can't believe we don't have more highlights in this. Dude didn't grip it the first time he play patty cake with it. I think that's n._f._l. Come on man stop that. We've got kids in high school and stuff standard. This dude on the ball stopped greg olsen in the show out with that miss man. I i use on vacation. You'll brainstorm install back to andrew lock and his decision to retire from the n._f._l. The colts have just under two weeks now until the start of the regular season that means they've got just under two weeks now to get back up quarterback jacoby perset ready to go as the starting quarterback. Here's what the colts g._m. Had to say about stepping into that role. We're not gonna ask you percent to be andrew. Andrew luck was a unique unique player but jacoby we percent is is a winning football player in this league and he is an app. I think you hear what you see. What andrew said kobe was said is a rare rare leader he is he's a rare human being man that that locker room loves jacoby percent take lopping. I think you saw it last year when you win as we went through the season and this is special gammon <hes> and in excited to watch him play artsy. What are your expectations for the colts with andrew luck retire with jacoby percent now now the guy there oh. I have high expectations because i kind of have a little advantage on this. I've been watching jacoby since he played two sports star in west palm beach plan for dwyer wire high school basketball star and also quarterback went on to go to university of florida transferred in one of my good friends. Bill parcells has mentored him him for the last five or six years and that's why i started watching when new england had him as backup. I thought potentially he was going to be the guy to replace tom brady. They traded him when <hes> when india had the injuries and everything they traded him and i don't think the football we saw from him in two thousand seventeen is a true indicator. What kind of football player he is that season. He got hit more than any quarterback in the n._f._l. But i do believe they can keep their playoff aspirations and this is still one of the franchise the over the next four years they're going to win. I got over fifty million dollars cap space available to him. The general manager i believe is one the bright young minds and i i believe frank right is going to be one league coaches that we have in n._f._l. Look frank what he did with nick foles yup when they got the quarterback issues there so for me any frank right. It's been under the radar. His career was under the radar great person but i believe in jacoby and i believe he's going to shock a lot of people before the season as a started. I said there's three backup quarterbacks that deemed to be starters eventually in the league. That's ryan tannehill in tennessee that is teddy bridgewater in new orleans and jacoby brusett in indianapolis. They are all legitimate starting quarterbacks and now with the colts. They got a top five offense of line on oh. He's gonna be excited about the great opportunity. He's got before him. I still think they're gonna win the division. I think the a._f._c. south is a. I don't think it has any any terrible team in it but i also thought the only potentially great team was the colts with andrew luck obviously without luck. They're no longer a great team but i think jacoby is was positioned as i think we send it a couple of weeks. Ago is the best backup in football now the best back in the football. Maybe that makes you the twenty fifth best quarterback so now that he's a starter. Are you obviously ratchet those expectations considerably but i also don't think it's fair if people look at just what he did in two thousand seventeen in two thousand seventeen chris mentioned the trade with new england that happened on september second he played week one that year and started week too so he had no offseason no time to learn the playbook not not to get on the same page with the receivers any of that and i would say half the quarterbacks in the league of the thirty two starters guy with no experience. You can eliminate seventy five percent of them. That would have been the start that number again. It speaks to his brain his intellect and build a assimilate that information and be oh to play playing in n._f._l. Game one hundred percent and while you mentioned they were planning for andrew luck to be there started this season. He's now been with frank reich. As long as frank reich expand their you had the whole off season and the last few weeks has been taken all the right they they've been the lux retirement obviously shocked everyone. Luck not playing week. One i think is what a lot of us had come to anticipate. Certainly the colts. Were preparing for that possibility. So i the offensive line chris. I mentioned top five in the league last year. Luck was sacked a total of eighteen times in only ten times in the final eleven weeks of the season. Marlin mac is shown to be a more than serviceable n._f._l. Running back and their defense the i think they're one of only three teams that didn't allow a one hundred yard rusher all year so when those are your building blocks and when you see for this season of the texans stolen have an offensive line. They just lost their running back the titans. I watched that game last night they i they miss matlock floor and ryan. L. might be the best quarterback on their roster. You mentioned he's a starter marcus. Mariota what's happened to him and the jags would be the x factor. Because what nick foles are you getting but i don't think the colts this isn't going to be. I guarantee this when when manning miss the year and they went from the playoffs to the number one pick of the draft left. This team is not going to bottom out the way that team did. We seem to have a little bit more info on jacoby percent because see you've been talking about him since that trade from the patriots. He's a a good leader. He's got great pocket presence. He can run a little bit and you guys both mentioned the offensive line. How far off is he from being a perennial backup to actually be more than a top twenty five starting quarterback in the league. I just believe with the with what they have around them. The general manager has done an amazing job and when they got when their the head coaching search when they named josh mcdaniels the head coach and then he decided to go back to new england and they hire right the owner to general manager what decisions the date because this organization that had been mismanaged for a number of years their personnel they're huge on offensive line to rebuild one of the worst units that we have in football aw and they got a bunch of young players this off. Season people thought they were gonna go out on bail. They're gonna pay him that. Mangum pay him sixteen seventeen million no no they did so. We'd like marlin mac going to stay with him going to draft some guys. Keep building it through the draft. This team is in position to be able to win to kobe has won. The best starts in the league. As far as i'm already a veteran and i got some toys around me and more importantly they can protect me up front two quick points one is is i think now they look back on not spending all their money. This off season. I believe is a huge plus chair because we thought me you win a super bowl right right now as much. I like jacoby super right now. I don't think you make win. Now moves. If you knew luck was retiring as far as what he's good at what he needs to work on the one year he started he was excellent. Oakland on deep passes us excellent throwing the ball deep down the field. He was sacked the highest rate is chris mentioned any quarterback in football timber senator drawbacks some of that was the offensive line some of that bill barnwell pointed pointed this out he did hold onto the ball far longer than you would like to but you would assume he's clean that up somewhere over the last couple years if he gets rid of the ball quicker and and cuts down that sack percentage. I think he can be an average n._f._l. Starting quarterback which in that division with that roster i think can be enough to win that. He has his work cut out for him early liane chargers and titans to open up the season starting in about ten days coming up or colts fans out of lying to andrew luck. That's next on first things first. I back this weekend at the beginning with the all new big new kickoff pre-game show and it's right right into the action is f._a._u. Visits number five ohio states check it out saturday starting at eleven a._m. Eastern on fox and the fox sports f the guy lane kiffin f._a._u. That's also where austin goes to school but lane kiffin was around the vikings when his dad was on the defensive stamp monty kip and was defensive ballboy. Oh boy right well. He worked for the team to say ball to some of these guys. Go on to be head coach lane kiffin. He was working with the squad. I got you <hes> all right time now for us to go viral. You're watching it here yankees. We're in los angeles to take on the dodgers. Aaron judge had a chance to talk with the fan before the game and he made a special show promise listen to this so judge promised to home run and judge delivered on his promise allah seinfeld. Was it tino martinez or yeah. We're tennis promising like babe ruth as well in the hospital. Polo neal was the pitcher in on the promise hanging i mean i mean that look like batting practice. We're in a stretch drive. We need a little few more hanging curves not at the best road trip the yankees. Were struggling a little bit right now. The black younis is tight though really early type. Those are nice this weekend. Round major league baseball mets the white on white. I'm in line and love that at all mets italy mccain into why don't why these that's what you got you got you. You were so poorly timed for stories to start your morning sponsored by gillette clear shell andrew luxu- tire. Moment was the biggest news who's in the sports world this weekend now. It's been reported that the colts will not recoup any money from lock nik. Does this open the door for electorate turn to india at some point. Whoa i think that's one of the main reasons they're doing this. I think jim irsay say what you will about him. Maybe learn from what happened with the lions and calvin johnson they clawed back back all the money they could and that slammed the door shut on him ever returning to them. He smells bad relationship with them. I don't know if it changes lux feelings but twenty four million twenty four million they could have gotten back. They opted against it so i think the door remains cracked open. I just don't see andrew luck walking through it. I'm a little i might have to come for that money man if you were the colt colt might not become get the money back in any coach fall they paid them. They paid paid him when he was off the field. I mean the lions went after calvin johnson. I didn't like the way the lions went after it but the way andrew luck walks away from it i might have to come on. Come received just real quick. If i may maybe one of the reasons they gave luck the option to go on the i. R. to start the year and then they would add to pay him another twenty two million this season so maybe locked by not taking advantage of that they're trying to do right by luck also had a bonus in september six million dollars. It was due to low bartering right here. Okay that makes sense all right moving on to the n._b._a. Dwight howard has agreed to sign with the lakers. After a buyout from the grizzlies lakers soapy can replace boogie cousins who tore his a._c._l. Earlier earlier this summer nick good move by the lakers. Are you guys know i believe in reclamation projects and you know i've always felt dwight's one of the most underrated players in league history with that said last last year he was not healthy. He obviously is a shell of the player he once was but we sat right here and talked with him. He did seem more mature than in years past and it's a no risk. Ask move for the lakers. I'll tell you this much. I think dwight howard can make more sense than javale mcgee when you are going to play a center anthony. Davis doesn't wanna play center so i look at this as no risk low reward but some potential reward this. Lets you know how bad things were yeah and even to white sitting here. I'll be like dwight. Things is really bad. Ah i know you look in shape when everything you're shelly sell all right. Let's move onto antonio brown around his helmet. Saga seems to be behind him now that after losing his second helmet grievance with the league office siebel a._b. Finally move on from this helmet issue now yeah until something else comes up. Keep telling you guys is just to begin. Oh yeah we're gonna see plenty of abe. I just hope that the quarterback is able go to get one of the best receivers we see in football. The last thirty or forty years might be wanting to better small players under six foot the n._f._l. Has ever seen that's what i hope oh for car and i hope that jon gruden leaving from a star being in television he made the right decision investing and trading for him and while i was gone mike mayock doc seem to reach his level of tolerance with this when he said you gotta be all in. I won't said that it was important. I think it was finally someone letting aby no amen amen at some point. You've got to be a professional and part of being a professional football. Player is playing football. I'm practicing football so i think the helmet issues don. He'll probably get an endorsement deal with the new helmet and make some money out of it but i agree with c. doesn't mean all the issues within. I mentioned this last week. There might be a potential lawsuit with him. Suing the company that had him injured his feet because they didn't give him the right advice. They put gloves on his hands but they did not advise him and he thought that he needed something on his feet but he thought they were doing something special so just wait to hear something else. Come into the industry bethel agenda just killing them for it. Maybe you got bad advice. Everything about that miss. I i stay out of this one day back and the buses already on top of me onto the cowboys now with the regular season quickly approaching ezekiel elliott remains a holdout how many starting to have serious doubts about whether he'll be there for game one but stephen jones seemingly not among those doubters. He's reportedly optimistic. The the cowboys and zeke will reach a deal before then. I think zeke will be on the field for the cowboys and the matchup against the new york giants. I'm glad to hear stephen jones say something that was positive. It's the first positive thing that we've heard coming out of there. We heard to begin training camp. They have offers out zeke and the other players and we heard hurt. Zeke didn't even send a counter offer because the offer he was felt disrespected and then we see jerry and the sun go back and forth back and forth to me. I'm glad that they're able to say something positive. They got a window. You and i were talking about seven eight days before they can get zeke signed because you want him sign by next monday tuesday station you can make those other roster spots. Do you keep him on a two week exemption. I don't think so but someone else wants you sign. Him has got to go so. I think it's good news. Who's this stephen saying something him our in our jerry because they've been a good indicator of what behind the scenes was actually happening. I just want to elaborate on chris's point when you said they have this seven day day window. If you what you were discussing off the air was if he's not signed by. Let's call it a week from tomorrow at the latest. He's not signed by next tuesday tuesday even if he signs before we want he ain't playing week one in your estimation so that it when steven jones says this. They believe that in the next week they could potentially get this don. I also think this is not just a quote. I think there's some substance to it. I think that steven jones savvy enough. At least this isn't about the giants. It's having prepared differently he would not be setting up his fans and and the people that i cover and follow this team and care so much about the cowboys for extra disappointment if he thought there was no chance he signs in the next week i think he believes he could have easily said listen. We've made our position very clear. We ve offered to make one of the two is speed running backs and lee balls now in zeke's court if he says that i would have less optimism than him saying. I think it will get done in the next week. Don't the cowboys have to win together. Some semblance of a game plan plan to start the season at least against the giants knowing who they are what their depth chart looks at that position most coaches. They try to tell the players. We're going to concentrate week to week but when you sit down the team setting and you get through those preseason game the coat sets the agenda and typically. He sets it up an n._f._l. Quarters and he tells them the first four games the season the second four games of the season and he'll go through different phases as far as the bi weeks dillon with injuries distractions plan sunday night playing thursday so so that first week it sets the agenda as far as man. This is what we're getting ready to do. Then green green used to say man. We get ready to fight all day. We go march all all night and we're getting ready to do that. For the next four months. I need everyone's undivided attention but then he would break it up into in this four games. We're going to have to go three times on the road in this four games right here. We got teams that were favored again so yes. It becomes very important how we're gonna play that first month of the season and don't sleep on on the giants especially with the defensive line being questioned for dallas meant barclaycard rushed for two hundred yards in that first game in the giants could pull off that upset all right well. It feels like we're getting a little bit closer to a deal with ezekiel elliott. Nothing adds the excitement of watching the game quite like having a shot at a million dollar payday drafter single-game go game showdown lineup and feel the sweat like never before it's simple just drafts six players from the season opener. Stay under the salary cap. See how your team stacks up against the competition but you don't have to wait till we wanted to get in on the action right now. 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Some of it wasn't pretty all that you've meant to the team the city and the stunning minnesota decision any reaction to the the fans. Did you hear feel yeah. I'd be lying. If i didn't say heard the reaction yeah it hurt. I'll be honest. It hurt nick. What did you make the fans booing lock. I'll be honest almost nothing. I felt for him. He didn't deserve that moment but i also think this is for some some people for some media one of their favorite hobby horses wagging their finger at the naughty fans even though it is not emblematic of an entire fan base it is an emotional reaction. Amongst people keep mine. Who's there at that point time. This is a preseason game at the end of the preseason game. These are your diehards of diehards. Hards who have just in the moment had their hearts ripped out some of them. Maybe most of them season ticket holders who now realized for the second time in the last three years. I have paid for season tickets thinking. I'm going to get to see andrew luck. I'm not going to get to see andrew luck and they haven't seen his press conference yet. They haven't seen how emotionally distraught he is and so they they reacted poorly a hand and not a handful but the people who were there who did that to me. There's not that different then the fans in toronto that cheered when katie got hurt it was an ugly moment in a snapshot in time that most of those people would not do again upon time for reflection. I don't think this is an indictment on the city of indianapolis the fan base as bob kravitz said it who's a great writer up in india and i think he's right if tomorrow they said andrew luck's going to hold a parade or hold an event he would have tens of thousands of adoring and fans show up to thank him for what he accomplished. They're in this brief seven year window so i i don't read too much into it. I think it was some die. Hard fans saying you got he's retiring. It can't be the most shocking retirement ever and not have some immediate emotional reaction so that was how i reacted to what the fans do for me. I've been around sports my whole life and most of it has been you know participate on the field but but i love sports i love all sports traveled around the world seeing golf tennis traveled around the country watching michael jordan and i've been been the season ticket holders ordered n._b._a. Twenty years so i'm a fan myself but as an athlete and i learned early in my career when i left middletown ohio and went to ohio ohio state in that first day and there was one hundred thousand the coaches let us know man these people watching football longtime they not here to be cheering for you if you do nothing and and just learning with that ohio state franchise they say oh is the ohio state. Let me tell you what the fans will do to you if you don't play with they'll either sit on in her hands in one hundred and ten thousand of them being silent or we traveled around the country and you go to wisconsin which we did. We're number one in the country. I think at the time lost lost their you lost that purdue guest robert woodson and they will do and they will you at home so my relationship with the fans. I never been thinking that all oh man. We had this gil give and take. No you know what we had as long as i can do with matfield to do the fans cheering for the team the colors i'm on. They're going to cheer for me but i remember one time. I was with randall cunningham warming up in the vet before the game and we're playing catch on the side. We're getting ready and i'm zoned in and the guy in all green painted and everything is cussing around the while. You're this year this. I'm like this my rookie airman. I come from a house they. They don't treat you like that. I mean so for me. It was i opening but i understood my ability to catch this football is going to keep them people standing up when i go on the road people are going to boom me and it might be my own fans because as a professional. We're being paid a lot of money. This is not college anymore. This is professional national sports and this is what the fans do. It's always been my expectation and now as a fan when i'm in that arena i've tried to conduct myself. I self as if i appreciate people for the ability i know they're unique and i know they're special and listen. The fandom is not unconditional love and it never has been it. It is always been we sometimes glorify it and try to make it into more the knees it is it is a symbiotic relationship at its best but not always always not always right. I mean the fans are getting either escapism or great moments or memories with their family entertainment and the and the players are getting compensated to chris's point. You're now professionals. This is if all of a sudden if someone went to a broadway show and they went to go see lin manuel maranda when he was still doing hamilton and they come in and they said lin manuel miranda has quit. He's not going to be out here tonight. And you're going to see someone else people in the moment might boo now maybe afterwards they'd find out a good reason they feel badly whatever it was or they would enjoy the show so i just i think this is the thing it is the type of story that gets talked about more than it should because it is so easy no it's everyone can be captain easy stance. How dare you who fans you know what i mean. You shouldn't have done that shame on you. No one's gonna no one is going to be like you know what we know. We should cover it. Though oh i agree we should cover covered because we should think that fans given all the stuff we've seen at some point would get a little smarter now. Andrew luck flips him the bird. We're going to recovery one hundred percent. We should be covering it when they treat someone that they supposedly loved right instantly instantly his career taken. His body has failed him man. I i got a call from someone in the n._f._l. And if someone is played the league a long time and it talked about man our body is going to fail as at a certain time andrew luck did no like we don't know when his just happened to be recently and it also speaks to. I think why players specially more modern players are recognizing. It's it's business for me. It's personal for you or vice versa meaning the the idea of taking hometown discount or the idea of showing extra loyalty to a franchise it is to get your money man right because they will whether it's the management or the fans very quickly as soon as you stop producing not all but some will we'll say okay. We'll you no longer provide me that joy. You were providing me and in fact you're taking it away from me therefore. I don't like you anymore not a lot of it. Is i love you as a a person. It's i love you as a performer. I've never left the stadium and been like you know something. I heard a fan saying great stuff stuff. Teach to my keys. People go to stadiums and act act a complete fool. Professional people get totally out of character and they feel like going to a sporting event i can do. I can say anything well. You got caught boon right someone you supposedly love. I know you're in the midwest the best people coming from the midwest yeah there's idiots in the mid west to all right. We'll leave it there. Take a break coming up more fallout from andrew retirement next on the world. We are all back coaches. Here are falling it into place eric mangini thanks for being with us this morning coach good seaman great look there i pocket. Thanks so. I'm working on it. Become working on the look <hes> coach. Let's get into the biggest story over the weekend. Andrew luck luck retired from the n._f._l. Saturday night. I hope you heard otherwise. This is going to be an awkward segment. He he walks away from the game at twenty nine years old after seven seasons in the league and arguably as one of the most talented quarterbacks to ever play the position take a listen to what luck said led it to his decision feel quite exhausted and quite tired i do once i hit the sort of the point where i felt like i knew what i needed to do for myself and talk to nicole and me and my folks and some close friends and family that that and then had some some very difficult conversations with with mr say franken chris but did feel like an essential. It's a weight was lifted then but but it's it's been tiring i feel tired and not just in the physical sense we use surprise coach decision shocked even definitely i was out to dinner and a friend of mine got the news and i couldn't believe i didn't believe what he was saying when he initially said it but here in andrews voice how tired he is and how long a process this man and even look at this this most recent as an injury it starts in march and then he's going to be ready for o._t._a.'s and then he's gonna be ready for training camp and they don't really know what it is. It's the ankle. It's the it's the calf it's all these things. I'm sure after the experience that he had the last time shoulder going the shoulder going through this again and the idea of of trying to get through the sixteen game regular season where he he's being being put together just to get the sunday. I'm sure for him was was just too much to to to look at and there are a lot of thoughtful guys in the league and things have changed. I think especially in the last five years with with c. t. the and the things we're learning. We're guys are making different. Decisions and andrew luck has a lot of options in his life and i'm sure he's looking at it. As i want to be able to play with my kids i wanna be able to live a full life physically and not go through pain day in and day out in any made it a really hard decision. A number of things have changed. The concussion lawsuit the number one thing that changed athletes especially the ones in the n._f._l. Into perspective moving forward over and the other thing has been the economics because the economics are so strong in guys can make so much money then you don't have to say do do i stay out here and i don't have to so those two things have changed the psyche of n._f._l. Players but to me. Everyone does not have a body nor or bring for the n._f._l. Now i love football. I love the physical contact when i was seven years old me and my cousin tried to doctor took my birth certificate and took it to the parks and recreation to try to get me to play in the league was a you had to be eight years old and lady told me get my parents in either. Come back and i said okay. I'll i'll be back. I was back three hundred sixty five days to finally be able to play in the n._f._l. I played in three different decades. I had the body in the mentality four ultimately there were times along the way. I wanted to quit one time. The brings to my memory the the most significant was was buddy ryan. I've been starting there two years and then buddy ryan had me in the doghouse and pulled my hamstring in training camp and training camp. I couldn't practice with the team so they had me off on the side. Practically me running heels. They had me pushing one of the golf carts up to heal with a fat training on it like they were trying to make me quit and i was getting ready to quit wit and i had stopped using at the time for over four months and the organization didn't believe in me. I've wanted to quit but my pride and just i. I couldn't just give up but i can understand why guys do it. I've seen guys and train all the time down at meal check. They don't check that to make sure everyone eight they showed that everyone and come down and wanna play football so andrew look i can understand and respect what his body has been through and i specked this generation of football players to be smarter than my predecessors to be smarter than us because they have better options and they have more information. I'm at the hall of fame. I see guys guys walking around. I've seen guys who have lost their ability to cognitive skills in everything at young ages so i got nothing but respect for someone that's it's played that game and take the beating that he took because the one thing that was criminal. Was that offense align. They put in front of andrew luck. That's what forced us to just press conference this weekend. What happened him several years ago. Nick and the most hits taken per game by any quarterback by far from two thousand twelve to seventeen which leauge open till the that's the year he missed was andrew andrew luck and the other guys are either out of the league or they are middling performers in the league. We know that it wasn't yes. We know of the shoulder we now know over the calf but buddy was also a lacerated kidney. It was cracked ribs. It was a one concussion early in his career so he had he win when we didn't know it when guys is like me were criticizing him for not fulfilling the potential he was playing injured. He was playing hurt and i know some of that was his wanting to make the big play always always trying to extend the place things we've talked about so some of you needed to himself but a lot of it ryan grigson did to him a lot of bad team building trading a first round pick for return richardson not drafting offense of linemen picking the wrong guys like those things can we saw david cars career would have been. I know what it was. I believe if i'm a houston texans fan today. I'm waving this in front of bill o'brien in the organization saying don't let this shawn watson have this happened. He had to catch a bus to right with a punctured right. He couldn't fly and i don't mean to laugh but i mean it was that absurd. What is so though shocking is it. Wasn't that andrew i to me. Not what i was hearing from him. It wasn't that he was yet worried and maybe you should never get to the point where you're worried about his cognitive abilities moving forward it wasn't will oh i be able to walk with my kids. It was the process of rehabilitation of a calf injury where he said essentially been on this treadmill for four years and i thought it was ending i thought last year when i played healthy and played great finally i'm going to get to a place where it's not pain injury rehab. It's playing football football practicing football and now this damn cap injuries lingered for five months and i just he said i'm choosing me and i find it so fascinating that for a player who has been as dedicated as available as far as wanting to be available throughout his career as andrew luck at that position that what what choosing him means is stopping the thing that has made him who he is and i we've never seen it. We've seen guys walk away when they had had already accomplished what they were said they were going to luck is doing it before ever scratching the surface of what we all thought he would do and what he showed rhodia the ability to do look i it's a long life and he's twenty nine years old and even though it may not have been cognitive at this point he being on that treadmill of being injured injured and rehabbing that that's probably not going to change. That's the reality of football is there are going to be a lot of injuries that you're going to have to deal with pain. They're going to have to work through and long term effects as you get older. We all know as we get older things creek a little bit more. They don't really know it it. It gets harder and those things pile up. I remember in san francisco cisco and chris borland retired and then a little different level of player but here's a young you really successful emerging defensive player who said okay i've. I looked at this and i want to do this anymore. I don't wanna take this risk anymore and this this will probably going to be more common than than not and we aren't going to be shocked in the future when this happens because the crisis point the money's different so there is a a level of security that come through some of these contracts twitter now you can take a step back and say okay. How many rolexes do i need. How many giant houses do i need. How many of those things i need and say i'm going to choose to to take a healthier approach route to this. How much changes now with the direction this team moves in because nick put played out the timeline august. I tells jimmer say right. I told peter king august august fourth. I'm going to be there week one and august nineteenth he he tells them so. It's not a ton of time for the organization to get jacoby percent up and running but how much changes changes if you're the head coach of a team where you had one plan where your your team is in conversation for super bowl talk and now you're in a completely different direction and how much has changed and how quickly well. This is a unique situation because he hasn't played so it's been jacoby team and there is the value of of jacoby having a whole season as a starter so through o._t._a.'s through training camp. It's been the operation been all with percent so you've got that body of work that you can build on in terms of of of approaching and how dramatically you're going to have to change the system. It's pretty dramatic because you've got to make things work for jacoby. You've got to give jacoby everything that he needs to be successful and there's a big part of that playbook that was earlier luck the majority of his what does andrew like now that has to go away and it it's what does jacoby lake and a point that you made earlier just about the the young part of of andrew luck's career. I think this is always the debate that we have about whether you should play a rookie not play rookie because they don't know how to protect themselves all the time so so even got a guy like kyla murray behind an office of line. That's you know struggling. He's young and he's going to take chances because he's young. That's gonna lead certain hits and this may be a topic for a later time but it's that maturing process for those young quarterbacks. That's part of this whole discussion and why are we got here as well. They haven't been able to do a full off season study this off season. You know what they studied. How well it offensive line was. How can i add a running. How can we help that defense now. They don't have that opportunity because their new quarterback. They have a lot of confidence in them but they didn't get a chance to build a breakdown everything because he didn't play much last year so now. How do they go. Oh back seventeen find the things that worked for them so for me. This is going to be an extended training camp four to six weeks finding out. Jacoby likes what he wants to do. Best how to get the team around that as far as the offensive line and running attack before they moved forward. I still believe that they are a playoff team because this is a talented talented roster that defensive front can come up and be more consistent with their linebackers in their second secondary. Did i believe is underrated and we'll be better this season yeah. This is legitimate playoff team. Sure is waking up this morning going with what happened this weekend. I did what he's got to live with it. Now coach stick around coming up or the steelers better set up for success without antonio brown lady on bell. We'll talk some steelers next on first things first and people were asking coaches answering how many rolexes he needs as one right there on his wrist. Chris coachman genie were going viral. Jacoby lieber set does now the colts starting quarterback and with that news. Some of his tweets from july started to receive some attention. Check these out if you drink water her out of a cup. Do you still have to wash the cup asking for a friend because you put your mouth on the sun is hot. How is outer space coal to the sun's not cold. It's very kahad you die at which point doesn't change from going up the street to down the street if you're going north you're going up going down you're going to sell these are simple questions. Why do we use toothbrushes russia's more than once if they dirty after i use the toothbrush off. Why is it that i have to sit every day next to someone who seemingly have the answer search asking these questions. He just has something to say that every time somebody say something. Do you know the different nick that between what nick is doing so miles something to say real difference principals v there. I think i answered all those paradox every time i say something. He's got something to say back whether it's right or wrong of course i'm just trying to help the new starting a quarterback of the indianapolis colts saturday's questions on his mind he can focus on week one at the chargers instead of wondering outer space racist. Okay is the hokey pokey really what it's all about stupid thing to answer my questions. Kobe's hey guys jenna wolfe here. September is national life insurance awareness month. Most people aren't aware of that in fact. Most people aren't aware they need life insurance at aw. That's why forty percent of americans don't have it but getting life. 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James connor also added forty one yards. It's on the ground with five russia's granted james and juju abyan left bell still productive though coach would you see from the steelers and big ben's preseason debut. I feel like the steelers look good and i think the steelers i i'm. I'm cheering for the steelers. I don't often say that but i do like what they've done this off season. I like the idea of them. Trying china moved to an environment that that's so much less based on conflict and and dealing with all kinds of distractions since i like the move that they're making their. I think that this is a team. That's gone through tremendous adversity this training camp with with losing their wide receivers coach coaching and i'm hopeful that this experiment works and i think that with ben rothlisberger all of those wide receivers have a chance to become special and you've got guys like dante moncrieff who could make a jump. You've got dante johnson. It's <hes> james. Washington has had a really nice preseason. I think ten or eleven catches so so they're hoping that that's going to continue to improve so they're they're gonna be in the mix some really positive things defensively as well so it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out especially early but i think that this is going to be a team. That has a chance go a long way. I'm glad you mentioned james washington big bend in in interview before the game will air before the game last night where he talked rods relationship with antonio brown and he mentioned in that same time i criticised a._b._c. Criticized james washington and he called me to thank me for it and james said it made him better and we have now seen whether that's true or not we have seen the james washington the preseason the steelers hoped they were getting last cheer because we've talked about how many receivers the steelers have developed whether they were high draft picks or not from behind word to emmanuel sanders to mike wallace to to san antonio homes to antonio brown. A lot of those guys overlapped it meaning. It's not often for big ben. He's only had one excellent target to look at and even a be be the last last year. He had ju alongside him. Can james walson washington be that secondary option because judah me is a clear and he could be a great receiver but he's still a clear downgrade from me antonio brown this. This steelers team is going to be an excellent test case on is. He's it more with less if the less is easier if the less is less noisy even if it's less talented and i know i think that's one of the reasons and you're saying you're rooting for them because you like the the sum is greater than the individual parts you like that philosophy that more so than kimmy as much talent as possible ospel do we'll figure it out and the steelers whether they meant to or not the last few years had been. We'll figure it out. We've got a star running back star wide receiver star quarterback now they just i have the star quarterback in a potential star wide receiver who at least the time being seems to be far less maintenance than the previous wide receiver they had but i do think they need one of those secondary receiving threats to step up i think james washington's the most likely of them and the one that they might be leaning on the most <hes> number one for the pittsburgh steelers and we know they went through the tragic death sudden death of coach drake. They're wide receiver coach now with all these young wide receivers. That's something i want to watch last year. You and i talked about it. Vikings loss coach barranco before the season started. They never recovered. That was their weakest unit lot of pressure on the pittsburgh wide receivers. They're they're very fortunate. Mike tomlin goes out and hires ray sherman. Ray sherman used to coach me in minnesota. He was coordinator there. It was quarterback coach there. He's coached wide receivers receivers coach jerry rice. He coached yo coast randy. Moss coach myself in a bunch of other so they're very very fortunate to bring him up. As far as the wide receivers juju smith schuster gotta show that he can play outside the numbers they have too many slot receivers so jujubes gotta go outside last year in the slot does only three receivers played more slot than him so as you can see from the tape in the preseason. We're gonna try to run the ball. They look very good. Run the ball to got a good offensive line but if you blitz been rothlisburger are you a six man rush seven men rush. He's gonna carve you apart. They moved juju outside. They run a little stack route in the middle been rothlisburger eyeballs to safety and fires a strike in the back of the end zone. That's been one of the best. I'm excited to see the pittsburgh steelers i do. I do know this. It's not i'm guessing in pro sports. It's about units is about teen and you can be better as a team with less talent. It's hard to win championships with no talent but in team sports yes yes the pittsburgh steelers as possible without being there. Can they be better absolutely and i think we're gonna see how big of a drop off is though without love bill a._b. There how big of a drop off his if james connor juju smith schuster are your main main targets main guys going in the bill. Factors is a factor at all then went through the whole season and last year without having they're used to that and then with antonio brown. You're confident james connors a number what he could be there featured i am and i'm confident in i'm in their backfield in general because you're kinda get because of ben rothlisberger and because of of of how effective he is you're gonna get more seven men boxes and and and that's going to provide opportunities for running backs at that other quarterbacks can't creed based off of who they are now to chris's point earlier talking about the running in game if they run the ball more and can and now force teams in the eight-man boxes. That's going to help the passing game. That's always been pittsburgh's brand be interesting to see whether they go back to that brand coaches right last time they were a top ten running team two thousand ten that was the last super bowl appearance so a lot out of that will be tied to the running game but if you look at connors and jalen samuels their overall productivity in two thousand nineteen was as good in and better than l. bell was in two thousand seventeen touchdowns yards everything stack up so they've replaced the running part. How do you replace fifteen gene hunt yard double digit touchdowns. That's hard to do and jalen jalen and connor both averaging over six yards. A carry in the precincts now granted. It's the preseason but that's a positive thing but the the receiving core they're going to have a chance to absorb those those receptions and ideally by everybody being on the same. I'm paid by having some continuity. This offense should work more effectively. There's nothing more disruptive than being on the sideline and having your star receiver come in and say hey i'm open. I'm i'm open from the ball. I'm open. I'm open you look cards and the guys double team and it's like you're not open and then the guy says well. I can get open. That's like all right. That's great can we can we move you want and look at what's really happening as opposed to what's happening in your mind and you still like the steelers to win the division this year yeah a big steelers fan or you're not as big of a browns. It's fan which we're heading. How would you say ravens could push. We'll see a little bit later. Coach coming up what did andrew looks pierce think of his decision to retire and that's next on first things first boxing action is coming your way on fox. The american dream era slanty lara going toe to toe. Oh with ramon alvarez for the super welterweight title catch it all saturday eight eastern five pacific on fox the fox sports app. The american dream is ric flair. Oh okay nature boy we will get to andrew luck in a second but first nine when those cameos do ric flair all hundred dollars as we get that garoppolo finding matt breed in the back of the end zone nice grab by the running back jimmy g. nice bounce back game zero point point zero out with the triple x. model thing okay. I'm it is i completion then also sense. He shattered his knee in that stadium. Same difference safes and jets and drew brees connecting with michael thomas who makes an absurd leaping grabbed lewis hit it mike twenty million dollars back outside playing the thanks member last year we twelve through the playoff they struggle because mike thomas was playing inside and the slot. That's moving back outside and get that twenty million dollars. Cowboys isn't texans dak prescott escaping the pressure to hit michael gallup for the touchdowns is what you see. You get shamed our staff on the awesome. I'm greg olsen catch. Now we get a dak prescott vary just pedestrian play. Oh he escapes the rush. This is your fault chris deck right there many avoid that sack that could end his career quarterbacks are brutal now talking about that could have been shot descending man back to andrew lock. Oh kiss sudden retirement had a lot of people on the internet talking some defending his decision some criticizing. There was one player who had his back. Here's what panthers wide out. Torrey smith had to say about the matter on twitter any athlete in any sport that has had a major injury understands exactly where andrew luck is mentally. I'm still lamaze that you can be criticized for doing what is best for you see. How tough decision was this for. Andrew lock had to be gut wrenching because we know on the surface surface is far as where he is right now but almost every person. It's a high achiever if you talked about their childhood if you talked about them when they were growing their teen in years. What did you want to be andrew. Luck man is bright as he is. I'm sure besides saying a football player. His dad was a football player. Football is the family business business or athletics with his dad being former athletic director. I know andrew luck didn't see himself not playing fell at twenty nine so to me. It's so what does he do today. I know what i'm gonna do. I know what i'm gonna do tomorrow a note. I'm going to do the next ten years unless you guys get on my nerves. But what does he do because i know his life does not match up with his dreams and aspirations and moving forward. I know this. I know there's guys that i've seen athletes and they didn't live up to their potential and the torment that they have but this guy's career cut short living living up to i mean you're number one outstanding getting the playoff. You're number two. We win a playoff game here number three. We don't win two games we in a._f._c. Championship we give staredown the brady and and and for the next ten years never been as successful evenly bounce back last year so i can't imagine personally personally what he's going through on a day today but it goes to show no matter what type of sports you play. That's not who you are. That's what you do and and when he woke up this morning that's harsh reality. I'm not a football player anymore. And what does he do to build a move on. I i i would hate to think because for me all my dreams have been about being hired cheer hire cheaper highest achiever at the highest level and that's what the n._f._l. Is i. I want to talk about some of the criticism received because is it unfair. Sure of course it's unfair. Everyone's allowed to do only live one life and you should do makes you happy happy as long as it doesn't negatively affect other people and i like so of course the criticisms on fair but we cannot simultaneously really glorify athletes the way we do using a lot of military analogies. We probably shouldn't warrior going into battle fighting through injury injury. Those are all things that they're not neutral comments. They are celebrate. Tori comments talk about the toughness and especially in this sport. Where are we give guys so much credit for playing through pain and then expect immediately when someone says you know what the calf injury it's too much. I'm done and not expect there to be some way. What are you doing even if it's unfair. Even if that shouldn't be the reaction we part of the what we have culturally in this country done with athletes particularly pro football players is put them on the gladiator asked pedestal and so when you you see one of the faces of the league walk away from the game not because he was to our is knocked out of the game not because he was multiple times can cost not because and by the way of course it's better for him to walk away now than if that we're going to happen. There's going to be some wait. What so i understand why that was for some people's media reaction even if upon reflection we should all wish the best for andrew luck but it is it can't be the most shocking retirement we've had in twenty years and also a universally praised by everyone the moment but the truth of the matter is he didn't get much criticism. I think people were shocked. I mean he didn't get much criticism. There's a few people out there which there always always will be none that are important so for me. Andrew looks decision to me. It was one of the more positive things with the shocking news. I was around in calvin. Johnson retired retired man that you know people don't even know calvin they like calvin and he got criticized in everyone else who's ever robert smith my teammate he walked away from after grabbing fifteen hundred yards after the two thousand season and and walked away from the game and he was negotiating a long term contract <hes> with the team so the respect for athletes it will always be there and there's only a few things you can compare it to but this is what i asked people because pro pro football is not like any other sport. If you want to get a feel what it's like and you won't do this because the n._f._l. Has banned most of it not unless you're a former player go go to an n._f._l. Game and somehow stayed on the sideline for three hours and ten minutes and you tell me three hours and ten minutes. I want you right next to the chalk. I wanted to guys fallen that your feet. I want you to see what people go through and quarterback man. You couldn't pay me enough money to sit in the pocket and have guys tee off on me absolutely not and i feel like i got a hell of a lot of courage but that position in the way you can be brutalized. It's changing last few years. That's why the the ultimate respect. I have for the quarterback who played in the sixties seventies and eighties. They toughest dues. We got playing football your number of some of the toughest guys we seen playing football because the rules change and you could brutalize him these guys it's easy for them and the game is still not easy and one other point about how andrew luck did this. We all know he left left. Potential future contracts on the table but peter king reported this morning. The colts approached him about hey. What if we put you on the short term. I are give you two months to see the recovers and then you can make the decision if he he could have been retired in his mind and said okay. I'm going to do that and collected twenty two million dollars this year. He decided to do it in a way that not only obviously ends future earnings but cuts off earnings that he could have had this season and i don't think he no one would have ever known he had made the decision already. He did this the most professional way he possibly could have and he now to chris. Point does have to wake up and say man. I've always said i'm interested in architectural sexual engineering. Am i going to go into a new career at age twenty nine. Am i never gonna work again. Am i gonna travel like he's got another. Hopefully seventy years ears to live without the one thing that he's always done as his northstar. There's for sure going to be a short term identity crisis when you have been a part of this game for for eight just who you are and who your family was and all of a sudden you wake up when imagining answering that question every day no matter where he goes all you want to be okay no problem. We have a project. Why are you off tidball right right all right. We gotta take a break much more on andrew lock and what it means for the colts moving forward that's i i. I going viral. Is you look sudden. Retirement sent shockwaves through the sports world saturday night so there was a lotta commentary on twitter his favorite target t y hilton tweeted every time i think about it tears start to flow. No one understands you like i do our bond is one of a kind. I've decided to dedicate my. I season to my best friend. I love you twelve hashtag luck to hilton j._j. Watt tweeted incredible competitor and a truly great person miss competing competing against a guy who always played the game extremely hard with an immense amount of respect wishing andrew nothing but the absolute best moving forward. I know this has to be unbelievably. Difficult decision and archie three tweeted much love to my fellow texas brother still remember our time together as heisman finalists and how we laughed about almost most being teammates at stanford the decision was only yours to make and i'm glad you have found peace in it respects. That's some poignant words there there and a lot of those last two guys. I find really interesting because j._j. Went through a portion of his career where i'm sure he felt like it was pain injury very and back leg injuries and where it looked like it was derailing his career and r._g. Three obviously has been on a never ending treadmill of injuries as well so those guys can truly empathize in a way a lot of guys may be especially j._j. Watt the greatness that that he is shown and the lack of to get back to that greatness because of explosive explosive injuries that he's had and multiple surgeries off season rehab j._j. Watt to me. That really meant something to here. I don't think people people realize how hard it is to get back into it to overcome the injury mentally forget physically but to mentally stick with it. I think people were always trying to say say. I would do anything to do that so the mental part. They're like oh. I would do anything well. You don't do anything to do your job so to think that you would be able to appropriate appropriate going that extra day after day. God typically gets it right the mentality after talent they come together. I wasn't here friday because that hangnail also i get it. It's tough for stories to start your morning sponsored by gillette jell o no no regular regular season quit. Don't let's not get into athletes quickly. Approaching ezekiel elliott remains a hold out many starting to have serious doubts about whether he'll be there for game one but stephen jones seemingly not among those doubters. He's reportedly optimistic that the cowboys and ezekiel elliott will reach a deal before then see things equally could be on the field for the cowboys and their week one matchup against the giants you these nice to hear from stephen jerry something positive it's the first positive new news of her in the longtime since he went to kabul so yes they got about eight days though and need to get him on the roster before next tuesday because with the league changing it's getting to the final roster and he might get a two week exemption if they decide to use it which they won't then. You have to cut another player but it is the saints are the sands of hourglass our ticket next monday sunday you gotta get it done but this is to me a real statement and a real positive statement. He didn't say listen. We're operating the same position. We've been in right now. It's tony pollard and company. He ratcheted up his fans expectations that he was talking absolutely right. It is not still silence from zeke's camp so that is true positive side moving onto antonio brown now his helmet saga seems to be behind him that after losing his second helmet grievance with the league office see will maybe finally move on from this helmet issue. No fans of y'all wanna make a being gone a little tirade again everyone tweet. We're going instagram. Tell him in the helmet helping and he's got his ugly. He cute film. That was one of the reasons why he didn't want to give up the the other helmets. This is just beginning general divas man they do diva type things just the beginning just chalk it up for the summer hard not to have something else ready for the regular season speaking part knocks heart his is hard knocks appearances have not shocking may general start to soften her stance on antonio brown. She's starting to laugh tonio brown. Those producers new amazing thing liz is in the helmet things over he'll probably actually make a little money out of this endorsement deal with the new helmet but of course the if the helmet was an issue and the feet were an issue now cristovao. Maybe he's going to sue do the cryogenics company regardless. There will be another shooting antonio brown. The raiders hope becomes with fifteen hundred yards. One hundred ten catches justin appearance on the field in a play back to andrew lock. Now the twenty nine year old star quarterback retired from the n._f._l. On saturday from his rookie year twenty twelve luck has been hit more often per game name than any other quarterback who's played at least three seasons leading to a litany of injuries leading tim walking away. Here's what colts owner jim. I had to say about retirement in this is an unusual situation. I mean we see tiger woods. Come back and win. The masters we see different things michael jordan retired and unretired. I mean in this case you know we just wish him the best and and maybe baby that he finds some clarity and maybe you know again. He's just going to be thirty years old late next summer when he making which immersed they had to say chris. I it's always reality if someone walks away from something and they have age on their side. Would they come back. I have played fifteen years was often broadcasting career. Dolphins called me. I was like man 'cause i had gone to. The dolphins visit them free agency. Can you play third receiver yeah. It's forty five minutes minnesota house. Yeah with the money looked like pay over a million dollars abbreviated season. You know something. I'm available so as a guide this walking away yes. He might wake up and be like you know something. I feel like i would be more surprised if he stayed in retirement real. Yes yes man. He's gonna feel a lot better after rest his body for twelve months or so fully healthy you mean yes and he's not training. He's not rehabbing. He doesn't know how how he's gonna feel. In two years i always going to feel better and it myself and others have struggled with it. He's not going to get anything. I don't care what is degrees in. I don't care if they asked him. You want to go to outer space. There's nothing like playing in the n._f._l. And he will always miss that in of his body ever gets back to where he feels like he can manage it. I wouldn't be shocked at all like this man you can. These jobs are so precious planning lee clinton n._b._a. Major easily baseball it's so precious. There's nothing else like it. There's no the locker room. There's no demographics that he's going to go into a meeting room and it'd be like the n._f._l. Locker room. You think it is next life. He's going to fall in love with a guy from south florida like t. y. Hilton no no. He's in the real world in the real. World is not as must diversity versity is what he has seen in n._f._l. Locker room and there's no other job that can replace it. That's why jason win. That's why he left tv. Tv is playing with the cowboys. That's why me and others have done the same thing so no doubt if he stayed retired everything you just said about what the n._f._l. Locker locker-room present is obviously true. Everything said about his age is obviously true the money all of it and yet he just retired because he didn't recover from a calf strain the we had hoped to no it's not that i don't believe it was last. That was the last piece that is not obviously not all of it. Of course it was the last four years it was the the last rated kidney and the cracked ribs in the interminable shoulder rehab and then finally the final straw absolutely i e the i thought that went without saying but yes the strain that didn't turn a new ankle injury that was they couldn't quite get right and he let any left and i don't think the money's going to draw them. In because as you've talked about the economics are so different i mean he has made one hundred four million dollars in his career. He's not known as some prolific wild spender so if it was the money i think he probably would have when they offered the ability to go on the short term. I are this year okay. Let me take another two months to consider this decision. Collect another twenty two million billion and then maybe i still will retire and so for most players but for this player because this is such a unique unique situation and he is making such an unprecedented decision to walk away not only at this age but at that position and with that that much meat left on the bone of what he was supposed to accomplish and with the most talented team he's ever been on all of that. The person that makes that decision i think is unlikely to twelve months or eighteen months or twenty four months from now. Go back on that decision. It's morning you talked about. What is other options were because i didn't. I didn't realize i was like well. What is he going to do a month from now but you actually laid out a couple of things. The guy who we came came to know at stanford but the guy who also other interests you just married a woman whose of czech descent. He's evidently become very interested in that culture. They're expecting a baby. He's i've he stayed at stanford the extra and got the architectural engineering degree. He started the andrew luck book club too. I mean he. I don't think he's going to be just a homebody. Now i agree with chris nothing he will replace the doug juice. He got from taking the football field but he has to know that and he made the decision to walk away anyway. All of them did magic johnson. He got the tragic news is he's h._i._v. Positive with that tragic news magic johnson tried to come back and play. They forced him out of it michael jordan you think he didn't know when he walked away from the game with michael do michael caine back to the game and i know for barry sanders when he walked away from detroit if they would've traded him to oakland barry sanders was still playing football so in my lifetime all the people that i have seen walkaway was shot magic johnson i member today they they stopped practice brought everyone into the players lounge and we were watching his press conference watching and crying and realize in twenty four hours us getting ready to get h._i._v. Tested the whole world had changed michael jordan. Mike who's my guy man. I was shocked when michael walked away from the game and you know some some was shocked when that dude came back so all the people that i've seen either me being close to them. They all have that same thing. The roar of the crowd and i want to get back out. I'm willing to take a chance to be able to get back out there in that to me is not foreign to andrew luck because i don't care nothing about his wife. I don't care nothing about his kids. I know the n._f._l. I know what it provides for you. I noticed self-esteem. It provides for you and you know something. What else is going to be good at. He might be good at being architect. He won't be great. He won't be one of the greatest over he won't have people saying you know so this could be one of the greatest quarterback tavern one of the greatest architects ever this guy. No you found a second career that you happen to be very good at that. You seemingly really enjoy a lot. I was always preparing while i was doing my other thing for this all right this use out of this is nothing compared. You're too that when i go to n._f._l. Teams and talk to them and this is no lie when i would go back and do my career all over again. You gave me the chance. Ask you take one of those kids. You take smith schuster. Take him from the pittsburgh steelers. Put me on that team. Oh yeah let me run a skinny post ben rothlisberger. I would take my chances with all my accolades and say i want a chance it again knowing what i know to be able to do it again. Andrew luck. He made a tough decision but the people i've seen who have been strong strong in your convictions that being very that being m._j. And that being magic all of them for some other reason berry they wouldn't trade them so they hilda's rights so he stayed in retirement but the other ones came back and tried to play all right. We'll have much more on andrew lock in what this means for the colts. That's next bursting spurs back here rian genie the colts have just under two weeks now till the start of the regular season that means means. They've got just under two weeks now to get back up quarterback. Jacoby were set and ready to go as starting quarterback. Here's what the colts g._m. Had to say about stepping into that role. We're not gonna ask you set to be andrew. Luck andrew was a unique unique player but you kobe is is a winning football player in this league and he has an app. I think you hear what you what andrew said. Kobe said is rare rare rare leader he is. He's a rare human being man that that locker room loves you kobe percent they loving. I think you saw last year. When you win. As we went through the season this is special garman <hes> and and i'm excited to watch him play all right nick. What do you think it was chris ballard. Just sort of selling us on jacoby percent was was he really is. He really all of those things that are expectations now for the cole lives in the culture devastated and jacoby <unk> while he might be the best backup and footballer formerly backup in football oh i thought he was. He's obviously not andrew luck but i don't think chris ballard selling things there. I think the colts can and i think they actually still will win the division. I i don't think they are a super bowl contender anymore as i thought they were. I thought that chiefs the patriots in the colts were clearly the three best teams in the a._f._c. Going into the season they take they are removed move themselves from that group but this team over the final ten weeks last year the number one defense in football had the number one offense of warning in full. Those are not because of andrew luck. He helps the offensive line. He can help the defense by extending drives but that's because of the roster they were building. This off. Season didn't go out and spend a ton of money in free agency but they did acquire justin houston. They had all those second round picks that they added to the roster. They add pairs campbell and i thought jacoby the situation was in. We saw him in two thousand seventeen. He was acquired on september september second. He played in week one. He started week to that is he's learning a totally new playbook. Learning new roster. He now has been under frank reich as long as it's been there. He got the entire off-season essentially as the starter because luxton dealing with this capturing for so long and that division to me is incredibly audibly winnable. The texans just lost their starting running back and they still don't have an offensive line that titans offense which is lost matt before this off season seems the mass. I'm not sure the best quarterback on that roster is and then there's the jags who if they can get back to the defense they had a couple years ago with nick foles could be an interesting team but i liked the colts. I think the colts can win nine nine games and i don't see anyone else in that division winning ten so they're not the same team obviously but i still think they can. I assume they will win the a._f._c. south. There are a lot the things like what the colts and and defensively it's one of the main things and you mentioned the draft picks their seven draft picks on defenses here so they directed hopefully flee that influx of young talent will continue to build on on what they've done and offensively one of the reasons you like jacoby percents much or you'd like that quarterback situation so much is it andrew luck got hurt. You did have the chance to jacoby and we've seen so many teams who get deep into the playoffs on their started gets hurt. You know the backup can't do it and then we've we've seen the reverse that with with philadelphia but now would you call we being starter. It's a it's a radically different equation and we can look at that first season in and he didn't have much lead time. The numbers have not been impressive for him. <hes> in terms of whether it's rating yeah take your pick. Almost the numbers below league is below league average now you're hoping because of what chris ballard seven because what what you hear from other guys that he does have that leadership he does does have that that that work ethic that drive those things those intangibles that we talk what all the time that's going to help him continue to grow in the system as a team as a a whole as an organization to doing so many positive things this is just such a devastating blow so late in the process going to be interesting to see whether i love to hear the the confirmation with the general manager chris ballard what he said and it was a confirmation with my good friend. Bill parcells talked about jacoby. He's been mentoring him for approximately five years. Now i saw jacobean highschool because he's from south florida went to big time. Highschool dwyer was a five star quarterback there and two sports star on their basketball team so i had heard about his leadership he signs go to university of florida doesn't work out there he goes to n._c. State had been hearing great things about him behind the scenes there in new england before he was traded so i would expect him to be better than your average quarterback and the reason why that offensive line that wasn't there before when he was playing and also the wiring seeven core. They got funches to be opposite of t. y. Hilton they brought air iran overhead a pro bowl season last year coming <unk> over from detroit. He's fulfilling his potential as a first round pick and they also have paris campbell the second pick from the buckeyes second round pick from the buckeyes that'd be he played for them so he has more tools now than he had before and with a good defense so i think that they i like them picking them for the division. I was thinking about about jacksonville but if you think about roster top to bottom. I like to colts roster more so than anyone else in that division. Well i mean they went from fifteen to one one odds to win two thirty two. I don't think they can win the super bowl like they to me when you were a big draw absolutely i to me. There is so there's different ways to evaluate teams in this league and there is the barrier for entry of winning a division that doesn't have a great team in it is one level the barrier of entry of winning three org four playoff games all of which will be against good teams. Yeah great teams is drastically different so you can be a team that that's why the odds reflect that and so you can and be a viable contender to win your division or to even maybe win. Eleven games and still have almost no shot at winning the super bowl because of who you have to go through in route to getting there okay so tell me what jacoby percent has to do to get better. What do you want to see from him. Where where is he not a complete starting quarterback in this league a couple of things in the sample sizes from earlier. He's got to get the ball of his hands. Quitter which indy was doing with since frank right taking over andrew luck came back. He's also got to be more more accurate with the football and that means like when you're getting zone. I want the ball on the right number. Typically inside zone the ball's going to become my inside so the receiver can reacted the defender man-to-man put the ball in front of people so they can get catch and run and when they blitz you which they're going to do man you gotta take the heart out of the defense by taking big shots down the field and hitting them with a higher percentage those three things right there and it will lead to him being which i believe is above average n._f._l. Quarterback has started to me. The most important thing is is the the level sax eddie token and we talked about this with andrew luck when you play a young player when you play in an experienced guy they're going to take saxon a higher rate than older older guy because they don't really understand the cost benefit ratio so now here we are two years down the track what what type of decision making he can have when it comes comes. It's time to to to that and the old line has gotten better. The running game has gotten better. The supporting cast has gotten better so i'd want to see a significant amount of progress in the amount of times times that he's either being hit or being sacked because the next step is as much further back you mentioned twenty seventeen many things where he was above lovely gavin who's very good at the one part of his game that statistically even with the sporting cast lack of offensive line was excellent in two thousand seventeen was his completion percentage success rate on deep passes. He had that now t. y. Hilton preserves a lot of credit for that. He's been great at the whole career but he was very good at that aspect where he was. The worst in the league was sacked doc percentage. Ten percent of his drawbacks ended in sex. Some of that was the offensive line but a lot of that was how long you hold onto the football. I think bill barnwell pointed out. He held one of the ball one of the highest rates of any quarterback in the league so the offense wind will be better. He's got to get the ball out quicker that deep pass if that's still there because paris campbell helps with that obviously obviously t. y. Hilton is still there as well. I think he can be a middling quarterback and that division. There's only one to me excellent quarterback shawn watson and he going to be running for his life off the whole season so i if they weren't a different division. I'd feel differently in the a._f._c. south. I think they can still wanna. 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Hour 1: Andrew Luck Retirement

The Stephen A. Smith Show

37:55 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Andrew Luck Retirement

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That andrew luck of the indianapolis colts the twenty nine year old quarterback entering his seventh season of playing he's done seven years but he missed the entire two thousand seventeen season but entering his seventh season of action as the star quarterback for the indianapolis annapolis coach drafted first overall in the two thousand twelve and f. l. draft that andrew luck the thirty nine touchdowns last year second in the league goalie patrick mahomes that andrew lock the andrew lucked at two forty five hundred yard that andrew luck comeback player today and last year after missing entire two thousand seventeen season do his shoulder that andrew luck and you looked at the season beforehand missed part of that season because he was out with elaborated rated kidney that andrew lock has decided that at age twenty nine with at least a decade kaid of a career ahead for him in position to surpass many many records n._f._l. History is a star quarterback in position to collect it today's n._f._l. Economy at least another quarter of a billion dollars in his career vet andrew luck has decided to call it quits to end his n._f._l. L. career at age twenty nine scheduled to be aged thirty this coming september twelfth due to a bevy the of injuries health issues obviously and john we have some south from andrew luck's press conference correct talking about his health his health wounds and all of this other stuff. These are things that we have to speak on but before we speak it's important to hear from edgy luck himself about why he decided at age twenty nine fresh off of leading the indianapolis coach to a divisional playoff it around against the kansas city chiefs having won a playoff game last year in his first game in his first year back play an account of football play with frank right with the best team as far as i'm concerned that he's had to work with since being drafted a stout offensive line t. y. Hilton the acquisition of devon punches eric e. bronner's. It's a tight end running back in an offensive line. Villa quit nelson who's the most position and it's all about the business of when shoehorn and protecting his quarterback why andrew luck with his best shot at a super bowl championship a._m._p. Chip in his career with chris ballot proving to be the exceptional g._m. That he has been with frank right proven to be <hes> damn good head coach the way he performed last year after i want to start got this team to the postseason that's winning a super bowl championship as a quarterbacks coach office coordinator with the philadelphia eagles the year before by the way we're all those assets available edge rock. He decides at age twenty two call it an n._f._l. Career listen aaron andrew luck. I'm sorry sorry explained the reasons behind his decision. I've been stuck in this process. I haven't been able to live the life. I wanna live taking the joy out of this game then after two thousand sixteen when i played in pain and was unable to regularly practice i made a vow to myself that i would not go down that path again i find myself in a similar situation and the only way forward for me is removed myself from football in the cycle that i've been in the lack of progress on my ankle and i'm in pain. I'm still in pain. I've been in this cycle which feels like i mean it's been four years of injury pain rehab cycle and for me to move forward in my life the way i want to it doesn't involve football there you have it andrew luck walking away from the game of football at age twenty eighty nine fifty three and thirty three as a starting quarterback in the national football league two thousand completions out of thirty two hundred thirty two two hundred and ninety attempts completed sixty percent of his passes in his career to for twenty six thousand six hundred seventy yards in his career one hundred and seventy one touchdowns eighty eighty three interceptions. That's a better than two to one touchdown the turnover ratio a quarterback rating of eighty nine point eight five which is pretty damn good you now a lotta. People were very critical of andrew luck in his decision. Let me say this as much of a fan i a- as i am of r._g. Three the person person i was never a proponent of g. three going number one in the draft coming out of baylor over andrew luck. I knew he was stud. I went to his his game <hes> against u._s._c. in his senior year at stanford as last year stanford rather and he went up against u._s._c. at the coliseum. I was at that game when he dropped fifty five on him. I was there and i saw this dude in a per person. I knew what a study he was an andrew luck being this dude six four two hundred and forty pounds. That's what he's listed. As first year in indy plays all sixteen games god's them to an eleven five record a wildcard game second year played all sixteen games james gosden to another eleven and five record and a divisional playoff game third year eleven and five record god's them to an a._f._c. championship game that year he led the league throwing forty touchdowns and just sixteen interceptions does do written all over me at franchise written all over him and loved loved loved loved himself playing some football. That's what he was about. Fix from stamp got some kind of architectural degree architectural engineering erin degree whatever the case may be but listen and comes from a relatively affluent family background. Obviously he doesn't need the money the way some of these the players from disenfranchised communities may need. That's not andrew luck steel. That's not his issue living a good life just getting married and marched his longtime girlfriend that he was with for the past decade <hes> obviously he's thinking about all of those things so i'm not here to sit up here and tell you and adopt this mentality andrew alexa quitter. Andrew andrew looks at all of these negative connotations that you want attached to them. I disagree with that. I think when you look at ed you lock the successor to pay in manning thing in indianapolis for him for him to come to indy succeeding peyton manning and to have played though the way that he played from the day he arrived in indy. I can't say enough about if there was going to be a successor to peyton manning. I think he was a pretty damn good one. I really really do and i think i think that when you look at andrew lock. I'm here to tell you something right now. You can blame them. All you want. Let me be very very clear. John and everybody else listening. I'm an out there. Andrew luck is not to blame for this. I'm gonna tell you who the play is. Damn jim irsay the owner for the indianapolis colts. That's who's to blame and i'm gonna tell you why you blame him because he did not do his job. When you got a franchise countable quarterback the likes of andrew luck you go go all out to protect him. You don't protect chuck pagano. You don't pretend ford g._m. Ryan grigson who should never be a g._m. In this in this league again i'm not saying he should be unemployed. I'm not saying he doesn't know football. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve a check from an n._f._l. Team but when you hear the stories that you've heard about ryan grigson as it pertains thanks to his hardheadedness his acerbic attitude his unwillingness to get along with certain people whether it be coach stoute's other people. They want to listen and you see what he has subjected. He's years as the g._m. For indianapolis colts subjecting. I andrew luck two years five years. The mail was sacked one hundred times in a first three times forty one times as a rookie in two thousand twelve thirty two times a second year twenty seven times its third year yes there was improvement but but then one hundred touches one hundred tons only countertops that he was sacked. It ain't count the amount of time that he was head that an accident that everybody sits here right now reading about about kris ballot. What did this man do this five years as a general manager. It was coats. He drafted an offensive lineman digital lock in basra it again before the seventh-round only three times. You've got to be kidding me. This is a franchise uh-huh protect them not nearly as well as you said. If you looked at a six four frame you looked at the two hundred and forty pounds you look you look at those tree trunks but thighs and legs and you're just assumed he would be all right. Would each drop back would each hit this. Man was withering away and grigson didn't do enough to protect him. That's why he's out of a job with the indianapolis colts. That's exactly why and as a result of it. This is where we are. Angela came into the league twenty twelve twenty fifteen. He was missing games. They twenty twenty six t was the last rated kidney twenty seventeen. He had to miss the whole season due to the shelter about a way not once but twice there was a a couple of soldiers surgeries he comes back last year. He wants comeback player of the year with frank reich as coach has his best completing completing percentage do for the second most yards in his career over forty five hundred ninety three do for the second touchdown his career with thirty nine had the greatest quarterback rating of this career ninety eight point seven had the greatest q._b. Off his career. At seventy one point five bolaise gentlemen almost telling stat was that he was sacked one hundred seventy four times in his career which means he was hit at least four hundred. Sometimes you can say whatever you want about andrew luck but the fact that that is that's a lot of punishment to take man. That's a a lot of punishment to take guys. Come in full speed at you and you don't even have an opportunity to brace yourself football. You got no time to brace yourself. You gotta just throw roll your body to the wolves and take those heads. That's what he was doing. Took a good look good licking. It was tough for him to keep on ticking off. Some of these hits a lot to take then now. You come in the training camp. I mean since april got a calf and you got an ankle injury. No o._t._a.'s c._a.'s training camps to kobe br assessment practicing with steve quite some time he's going through this. I can't blame andrew luck for his decision. Everybody wanna sit up there and engage in hyperbole aw takes a lot of courage blah blah blah now listen. I ain't gonna go that far right. Look you. You walk away. You wanna say it takes courage to walk away. All right does show way of saying it now. I respect demands decision. I i respect his right to make that decision and i applaud andrew luck for the star. He was in the national football league because make no mistake about it. He was a star in the indianapolis atlas cultural a shell of themselves without him. We'll see what they do now. They were super bowl contenders with them now that we know he's done. I promise you they aren't now. No disrespect respected jacoby percent. I wish him nothing about the best got a lot of respect for him like what i saw him doing new england like some of the moments that he's had an indie but i got news for you. He's no andrew lock so we'll have to see what he does but i will tell you this. I feel bad for him because i believe him and i believe people when they talked about his love the game of football and it's a damn shame. It's come to at this point for him. It really really is am i. My heart goes out to him and his family 'cause. I know he loves this game and i have nothing negative to say but i got news for you. Which may surprise all. I got nothing negative to say about. I have nothing negative to say about the fans in indiana either. You don't want this particular day. We talk about the fans in every negative connotation we want to you can do all of that. All you want want ladies and gentlemen. I'm here to tell you something right now. I don't have that issue with the fans. I do not have that issue at the fans to me as as much as y'all wanna excoriate them and talk about classlessness and what have you. I got news for you. I think it was totally appropriate. Totally totally totally appropriate. Water fans were booing and allow me to explain laser gentlemen if the fans if andrew luck had retired it in july or jew or the spring. You wouldn't have gotten that reaction. Darry actually wasn't because andrew lucked quick and he's a quitter. That reaction was what the hell you do a man we a week away from start of the season now. I haven't spoken to any indianapolis colts fans but i'm willing poland a bet my money. That's why they were doing. What the hell are you do. We're a week and a half away from the start of the two thousand nine hundred eighty n._f._l. Season season if you will going to retire you couldn't have done it earlier. Rather than building our hopes up knowing that we got a super bowl contender and you're we're going to quit now. What the hell is going on here. That's what they were doing. I wanted to sit up there and i had my research. Look up something because i want to make sure that i put this in. It's proper perspective because i mentioned this on my on my television. Show i take which is on e._s._p._n. Every weekday morning from ten a._m. To noon eastern seven to nine a._m. Pacific jim brown retired hi it at age twenty nine these gentlemen. When did he retire. It was july thirteenth nineteen sixty six barry sanders for the detroit. Lions couldn't stand coach. Bobby ross retired at age thirty one when he do that. Laser gentleman july twenty seven th one thousand nine by the way they were both running backs calvin johnson a wide receiver age thirty twelve hundred fourteen yards nine touchdown passes march eighth two thousand sixteen when he retired july in march. There is no quarterback in n._f._l. History that we know of correct me if i'm wrong john that quit a week and a half before starting the season when you're the q._b. q._b. One it's never happened. It's never happened and if you're an indianapolis indianapolis colts fan. I can understand why that would rub you the wrong way. I can totally understand it. You understand and did you look at it hurt. I get that i understand it. People want to talk about. He did so much much. He did a lot. He wanted super bowl. Now he went in a._f._c. championship game. He won games. He got to the post season and i don't recall them doing that. For free us getting paid to do it. He had a job to do and he did his job but he he lived up to expectations in terms of exceeding them. I believe not would have but he had yet there was unfinished business and it's perfectly within his right to step away from the game completing supporter. I'm not going to insult his decision decision nor am. I gonna sultan for the decision he made. I'm simply making the point that if you are an indianapolis colts fan in that moment eh fence what do they do one of two things they board cheer buddha chair. Some people like my man will say oh. You know what they could be quiet. No that's not what fans do fans aren't quiet they boo or they cheer and this was nothing to cheer about. So what's what's your alternative. It's taboo that's life. Angela does not deserve to be insulted. He does not deserve to be excoriated. He he does not deserve to be raked through the coals but in that moment if you're an indianapolis colts fan your season just went just washed away everything you had hoped for evolving super bowl aspirations and expectations and the thrill and the excitement in the of the anticipation of it all evaporated in a wink of an eye an emotional reaction is going to emanate from that in the moment and it ain't gonna gonna evolve cheers so people are quick to get on the indianapolis colts fans for this. I'm going to come to their defense now. If they acted that way. Today i'd be all all over him if he ever retired july or sooner and they reacted that way. I'd be all over them but in that moment inside that stadium understanding that you will walk in away from the best team you've ever had a joy disposal one and a half weeks a week and a half before oughta damn season begins. I can't knock the fans for reacting that away and i don't think y'all should either when it comes to hiring you. Don't have time to waste. You need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com post job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast i accelerate your results with sponsor jobs. New users can try for free at indeed dot com slash smith. That's indeed dot com. Slash smith terms conditions and quality the standards apply. You're listening to the stephen a smith show podcast. Keep the heads ringing so if you missed any of today's opening segment go check it out on demand with cast brought to you by capital one cabin avenue reimagining banking orphaned accounts fees minimums that can be opened in five minutes capital one. Hey hey what's in your wallet capitol n._a. Member f._d._i._c. also it has been radio's presented by progressive insurance quote by and save on home insurance. We're aggressives. New homequote explorer only progressive dot com it at eight say e._s._p._n. It's in an eight seven to nine three seven seven six by the way ladies and gentlemen don't think for one second. I haven't been nice because let me tell you right now. Don't think for one second i consider consider the end appreciate and respect for andrew luck coming from but let me understand something we all know that we would not accord this level of respect to many others if they acquitted this point in time right. We all know that right. How many cats do you know could get away. We'll receive in the love fest and did you look has received over the national airwaves over the last several hours if they equipped with a a week and have left in the season as a q._b. One how many people you can get away with that. I'm just saying in the interest of fairness okay. They just some running back. You know in tv quarterback. Let's just keep it real nikki nikki lava stephen they would say hey steven argue about andrew luck man. <hes> i feel like a lot of people are being a little too hard. I personally feel like i get where you're coming from and away like we wouldn't give a pass a lotta people but also feel like with people trying to tell him how are we should do is how you do career and what he what he's going through like. A lot of people don't realize going through all those injuries how depress you could be in mental health there. You hope you well i do. Actually i do how i've been. I've been through it injury. I tore macy on my right meniscus. When i was in high school. <hes> my mom is also pass away and my grandpa depressed in my family. I appreciate you sir. I love watching your show show and gives me a lot of happiness. Honestly that's why like calling <hes> but i just feel like that's pretty similar to what angela for like he's been so upset. He's been hurt physically if he goes back out there. He's probably thinking about a lot of that stuff but listen to this. I understand that and i don't disagree with you. But what about about what what do you think about the notion that damn a week and a half before the season began as opposed to last month. You've been hurt for months and i have before in a week and a happy before the season is when you dropped his news on the team yup definitely not fair to the team but with all the team backing up like that right. You would think it seems that they're actually actually like understanding where he's coming from. Which is why. I feel like the media and everything but you're black. You understand well. Let me back with this. Let me come back at us really really think one of his teammates will call them out like that. Do you really think about what they really feel if they if they if they felt differently do you really really think that would happen honestly probably not but but if why would you throw him under the bus like that when he's been like like he has for indianapolis and the team for whatever since twenty twelve i mean you wouldn't throw him under the bus like i just wanted to happen. Okay so my point my point basically is. It's just let the man do what what he wants to do and live the way watch live without saying all he. You know we're not shoes. That's my point. Why nobody's gonna listen to that. I appreciate your thoughts. Appreciate your comments but you join the dampers and listened to that people say what the hell they want to say. They don't feel what the hell they wanna feel. That's just how it rolls period. Appreciate the call. Oh thanks a lot eight say e._s._p._n. Inundate seven to nine three seven episode six man champ from detroit. I knew he'd call you live right here stephen. There was a big boy. We're sorry bro how you doing. I'm gonna i. I'm you know what i'm sick and tired society they so soft today and everybody oh he retired he he is his wishes. He was best for his family. Listen seven seven years in the n._f._l. You play six seasons if the medical doctors say you are able to play football you quit and the biggest story today that no one's talking about is the indianapolis colts has elected to let him keep twenty four million dollars for six seasons they organization but in the same time you've got folks the median night in and night out desk complaining about guys like lady. I'm bill hold ezekiel there. I think every player in the n._f._l. Who feel they don't have a better deal. The ocean hold out to date. They should set a standard if you can get twenty four million dollars donna football since we get paid jay. I gotta tell you you know you and i've been boys for years and we've disagreed on several occasions. I think that's the greatest raiders point you ever made. I i can't deny i mean i gotta. I gotta tell you something about the way but for my audience out there listen the what my man champ from detroit just say he said they make and they made all of this noise about levy on bell holding out they made they're making all of this noise about ezekiel elliott holding out but a god. It quits gets the key twenty four men out josh. I mean jonah help me out. I that's a damn good point. Champions may lady. I don't know if we can a dispute that because it's perfectly well listen. I'm not gonna go that far because you're paying. You're paying etc but what i'm saying is if if if jimmer say aac if somebody here depends how about this one champ if somebody else had decided to call it quits on jim would he give them twenty four hours no the biggest problem i have about this and i'm gonna say berry. Santa's is arguably the greatest running back of all time and the and the greatest player that ever lace the boots are for the detroit lions. They made him pay money back calvin johnson this argument pound for pound the greatest wire receiver that ever play football they they made him pay money back. I mean it went so far with the atlanta falcons with my big. I think he had to pay eleven million dollars back. You mean to tell me a quarterback who's never play in a super bowl. Never never want us to vote. Underachieve stanford just like jim harbaugh at michigan and you mean to tell me he can walk away with twenty four million dollars and he still walk it but at the same time sang guys in the media is gonna kill ezekiel elliott lady on building all these other players on the beatdown cam newton has taken over here and play in the super bowl and guess what if he walked away right now they will won't all this money back it russell wilson says you know what i want to be a father to my children my wife i quit. You'd think the seattle seahawks. We'll let them keep eighty million dollars hail. It's ridiculous and i'm sick and pat folks trying to change the narrative and don't wanna keep it. One hundred bottom line is he. He played seven years in the league. He played on sixties. He kept twenty four million dollars and the way i look at it. He quit. He should return money back but i will say this you. I'm not gonna question the skill set. I'm not gonna question what nominal i'm not gonna quit on edge brings to the table as a talent and i don't think he's gonna let me let me. I don't think he's cheated. The indianapolis colts fares would his performance on the field however the points that you just made about that twenty four million dollars and how it would not have been done for other players. I gotta admit wow. I gotta admit i. I have no comeback for that. Pat barry sanders had to give back his money. Calvin johnson had to give back money. Michael vick had to bring right now. Michael vick's different situation because michael ovation did equate. We can't put him into that conversation the whole dogfighting scandal. He ended up in those protests. We can't throw him in the same have conversation but barry sanders and calvin johnson we most certainly can the national football league as a whole are hypocrites and these players who don't have the cachet like the n._b._a. Players they sit in front of them microphones and do the dog and pony show he did was best for his family but in the back of their massa i say damn he just collected twenty million dollars and can still play football but here it is a sequel elliott is getting crucified through the media from dallas all the way to africa and you're telling me the best running back in football. They need to pay that man to gay. He should not play another down for the dallas cowboys. Amari cooper show hold out that prescott her hold hold up. It's just set a precedent to the national football on if you could pay a guy twenty four million dollars right to sit at home. You better pay the guy that wanted to play that can play the money right away. Let me tell you something right now. Here's where you and i do disagree though i have no problem with ezekiel elliott making getting his money because he deserves it because he's a star running back in the national football league. He probably the best there is right now. I don't have any problem of however him having the sweat shirt because the fact that the matters when you suspended for six games when you get called up to the commissioner's in his office on two or three occasions because you don't know how to act and you besmirch the franchise the way that he has by finding himself in those particular situations in the midst of dak prescott never ever missing the game being the quintessential leader that you're supposed to be who by the way is in the midst of contract negotiations with the cowboys himself. I have no problem problem. I don't have any problem with ezekiel getting his money but also have no problem with him having to wait for at least a few weeks. It doesn't bother me with this one. I'm elite league this one. The day arce said i'm gonna give you twenty four million dollars to sit at home. It don't matter what none of these players do anymore. You gotta pay the guy that's willing the play if you can sit at home with twenty four million dollars in the bank and this is a league that does not give guaranteed contracts. That's a slap in the play face face to every n._f._l. Player that ever played as plan right now in future play in the n._f._l. The deal you need to get. I mean somebody needs to say so. This is ridiculous preset. Your champion can't can't can't cannot disagree with a word you said man chair for detroit appreciation bro. Thanks so much it at eight say e._s._p._n. Eight hundred seventy not we seven seven six yard augment dammit. He was right on point. I got a minute was gonna say i just can't do it. Andrew luck leaves no disrespect but he did quit and he gets to walk away with twenty four hours ezekiel elliott holding out people got a problem with them. Love your bell. People got a problem with it. He can't play elects not to quits. It's an earthy says. Keep the twenty four hours and oh by the way when i say i've done that for anybody else. That's one problem you could have with. I'm gonna tell you another. I'm gonna tell you why he is more to blame for. Andrew luck's retirement than anybody else. I'll explain exactly what i'm talking about. In the minute you listen listen live stephen a radio e._s._p._n. News by the way do you african harper like the conway stashed every case pops up. You know what i mean. It keeps them in your bag of your desk or your car or your nightstand. You have those jockey tablets ready for whenever and wherever heartburn strikes listen up. There's an easy way to deal with your heartburn. That's problematic o._t._c. Just one day will ask the full twenty four hours. I was with zero heartburn so kick your ass at habit. It's possible politic. O._t._c. uses director for fourteen days to treat frequent harbor not for immediate relief. 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Go ahead buddy all right. <hes> given andrew luck's early retirement <hes> you know in the brutal nature of the sport football players becoming more financially secure than ever however you think it's going to become a common trend for players to retire earlier and shook. They retire early. Why didn't we already see that trend with numerous players that walked away from the game in the off off-season because of concerns and things of that nature. We've had a few cars. Quit does not on the same level in general andrew lucked understand understand that i understand that but i'm just saying we've already seen that trend sort of developing a percolating so i think it's possible sure but i don't think it's a foregone conclusion. You've got to remember a lot of times. These guys play the game because they love it and they know the violence that comes along with it but that game the roar of the crowd a super bowl championship along with with the money that thinks that incredibly appealing to a lot of these guys and it has a lot to do with it okay but do you think they should retire earlier. They're not in the game and they're financially secure like i think it's all i think it's all an individual decision. It's all about what you want. What your passion is and what price you're willing to play you. Remember i love boxing. I love the u._f._c. I enjoyed a u._f._c. more and more every day but guess what some of those guys are going to incur damage and it they make that personal choice. If you have the sports these there are certain sports of the gladiator the sports it's existed since the beginning of time. This is what we have to deal with and people make choices in their dolts in this their own individual decisions. That's just my my take on it. Our number the two of next we'll continue talking about getting some zeke elliot and the dallas cowboys and then somehow a._f._c. is looking not an agile lock won't be a part of the indianapolis colts all that in a more coming up. Don't touch that dial. You're listening to steven. He has radio e._s._p._n. News hour number two up next.

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Hour 1: Good Luck

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:55 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Good Luck

"Bothers is coming back to h._b._o. In the stakes of never been higher twain johnson returns as the former football star spencer stress more as he goes after his biggest opportunity at bothers. There's air sundays at ten thirty pm only on h._b._o. B- damn joe podcast is presented by the capital one venture car when you are an unlimited double miles on every purchase your next <unk> trip closer than you think capital one. What's in your wallet. This is the dan lebatardshow with this to got spot cass john mcenroe on i take probably not where they wanted to start on the news but they had already booked john mcenroe and usually that's a good booking but i guess they're probably just going to talk to him about andrew luck because a lot of pimple are talking about a seismic shocking decision decision that is seismic and shocking for a number of reasons not the least of which is we all kind of thought this guy loved football and the idea idea that he's out of it makes me feel like it's more of an indictment of the sport then of him that he broke his body. He broke his mind and at the end with colts colts fans booing they broke his heart broke every part of him before he got to thirty and i know he's not a martyr today but i want you to consider for a second how many hundreds of millions millions of dollars he just left off the table. Given the dak prescott is asking for thirty million dollars a year. It must have been awfully hard awfully the hard to snub his city his teammates his supporters his relationships and hundreds of millions of dollars he must have been in a great deal of physical physical and emotional pain to choose it that days before the season billy is heartbroken back. There billie is putting together montage. It's not ready on time of andrew luck sadness. He says he's been made more sad going through the archives of andrew lock because he's a show favored here than when some people around here have died and he has to do the montage. Here's the thing this could have been ready to start the show but i wanna give this the proper respect and attention it deserves and as you said yes. This is one of the saddest projects i've ever had to do because i can see right now. Your eyes are fighting back tears fighting it back because i realize he's he's just gone on from football and he made this decision and this is the right decision for him and yada yada but it's very sad for us like this is a very sad day for me and i don't want to make this about about me but i'm going to miss him so much and i was so sad dan. I watched the whole press conference twenty four twenty five minutes however long. I want to give them a hug. What do we do to him mm-hmm. What did we do to him as a sport as americans. What did we do to this poor andrew luck. Well you mad at him. No the opposite it's got a little mad at him because god's voice of the fan and not surprisingly stu gotz things he should have been booed leaving the field because a lot of people understand the frustration asian and anger of hey man. The season was all set up. Why a few days before the season starts. Are you lobbying this grenade at colts fans. The ants who have gotten very used to having a quarterback stable for twenty damn years twenty damn years at that position it has it has to be the most entitled quarterback base in the entire your country where you've had a i guess the patriots but you've had twenty damn years of exceptional quarterback play and he took it away from you right before the season started the way those fans who are at the stadium found out was pretty unprecedented. It was at so in that moment right. They were shocked. They had no idea there in the stands watching the game. They're thinking they're team is going to be a super bowl favorite favorite to come out of the a._f._c. and then all of a sudden they learned the news of andrew luck and so what do they do they boo and then what happens we criticize them for boeing so we can't they can't tell andrew luck how to live his life but we are perfectly co <hes> comfortable as a media telling fans had to live their lives and ed to me. That seems patently absurd. Fans don't care about the athletes and fans care about themselves. They'll care about andrew luck. They care about andrew luck. As long as andrew. Luck is playing every sunday thrown throw for four hundred yards and three touchdowns and delivering victories. That's all they care about. A mistake gets made all the time. Though is that fans think it's a relationship when it's a transaction in an andrew luck thought it was a relationship and realized that the end it's a transaction it's not and in sickness and in health. It's just in health they. They don't love you in sickness unless you die then they'll love you if you die. If you're sick enough to actually die then they'll love you but it's not in sickness sickness and in health. It's only in health. It's how it's directly proportional to how good you make me feel and if you take it away from me. It's a dysfunctional relationship. It's not allowed to be a relationship. Let's it's a dysfunctional one because otherwise it's the transaction andrew luck was heartbroken at the end his body and mind we're already done and then you broke his heart because that had to be hard for him to do to choose. I'm going to choose happiness. I'm gonna choose me. I'm going to choose myself. I'm going to choose my health. I'm gonna choose my new bride. I'm sure it was difficult. I'm certain it was difficult and i have no issue with andrew luck doing it. I have issues with everyone blasting the fans for booing andrew luck for doing well. Here's here's what's happening fair enough right. You have more on that. Excuse me i didn't know about you. This is what's happening. People are taking sides on this because doug gottlieb. You've been dan dockage are giving voice to those angry fans. Doug gottlieb is doing it on twitter by saying retiring because rehabbing his quote too hard is the most millennial thing ever hashtag andrew luck. Dan dockage says quote. I have family working in steel. Mills cops teachers making far less than this guy is tired heard my backside and so the people who came after him were interesting because troy aikman came after gottlieb and troy aikman doesn't come after anybody know troy aikman's that's total bull bleep doug what qualifies you to decide how someone should live their life so you're now the authority on what motivates andrew luck and if his the decisions don't fit into what you think is best for him then you rip him. Guess that keeps you employed on f s one nice. Everyone knows what he was doing. Chop the f. s. once like hey i work for fox two more key america's game but torrey smith just nuke dot leave because again gottlieb's just tweet is retiring because rehabbing his quote too hard is the most millennial thing ever torrey smith berries gottlieb with you stole credit cards cards because working was too hard that is rudolph. That's a collegiate crime from doug gottlieb. That's still haunting him. A quarter order century later torrey smith has not forgotten but here's steve beuerlein and steve berlin sort of to me represents average quarterback ax in personality in play and everything just the height of totally average commitment to the position that caused ause the the the the the banal things you have to say in front of your lock her like <hes> all the stuff that that an average a totally average quarterback her back is steve. Berlin represents better than anybody to the godly millennial criticism. Pablo had a good tweet that i think should apply you can't be called the millennial if you have a flip phone phone burr lines saying i'm a huge andrew luck fan always have we have been but this i cannot defend or justify no scenario where retirement is defensible to do this to his teammates organization fans and the n._f._l. Two weeks before the season is just not right. I love the guy but this will haunt him and what i would say burr line line is you probably don't know angela physical pain because he kept trying to get back and he kept trying to get back and he had set back after physical setback and i don't know how much pain rain or how hopeless he felt after already his shoulders been botched then it becomes a calf and frank reich is talking about this might be kevin durant situation three m._r._i.'s. We can't figure out what's wrong now. It's the ankle and it's medicine and medicine and medicine and i'm sorry if i'm andrew luck and i've got a new wife now. I don't need to be developing opiate addiction for you but i'm guessing burr line. I'm probably wishes he had the talent that andrew lock cat. You're right. He is perfectly average. She's an eighty quarterback rating for his career that is average when you look up average quarterback in the dictionary steve berlin's. It's face comes up a guy so and i guarantee your berlin wishes. He can go back and play again the n._f._l. With andrew locks kind of talent and would give anything to have the ability to do that but then here's here's what people see they see the shawn watson playoff game can barely breathe rib injury and he takes a bus to jacksonville to play in that game. That's what fans expect from there gordon dum dum yeah and give and give it time because andrew luck was in that cycle. He gave voice to it. He said the hardest part is like fighting my way back from that other injury injury that forced me to miss the entire year and doing an entire offseason rehab and not being able to practice with my team. I told myself if it ever got to that point again. I'm simply not going to do it and he sucked to his gones. Stugatz is arguing on behalf of the expectations in the entire culture of pressure all of it. It's what i told you but kevin durant stu got you forget real. Quick the the everyone everyone was putting pressure on kevin durant to come back and look at what happened and who has to live with that rehab nobody but him no old buddy but him but everybody and that's and that's basketball. That's totally safe football. It's worse football and hockey are the worst cut it off your finger and keep playing do what chris simms didn't play through a spleen leakage that <hes> you know has you on the cusp of death that night andrew one of andrew alexa many any injuries is a lacerated kidney but we're so accustomed to seeing players do whatever it is they have to do that. Ends now. Look bronchitis retired and everyone understood stood. Yeah that looked like it hurt being him looked like it hurt and he's bigger than everyone else. Everyone understood on grunk yeah a lot of surgeries. That seems like it sucked. I i understand why you would leave but he gave ableson entire offseason to prepare dan. This was before the caesar peter for that. 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Of sports x. and extreme sports media company the stakes of never been higher spencer tries to leave his past behind and reach the highest levels of the sport. It's not where you start. It's where you finish bothers. Air sundays at ten thirty pm only on h._b._o. Donlevatar man libertad. You're a wimp you. You never put your hand in dirt. It's football fans game. Be a man get concussed stugatz. The a man ebbed scrambled drool out. Your mouth drew me man. This is talk show where there's two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio geir mo put it on the poll at lebatardshow should colt fans get a refund because they're asking for for one <hes> they are asking for one roy came in during the break and told me there is now that request and i understand didn't pay that money to see jacoby percent then that is correct to god's was arguing during the break. The cold should trade ally manning that would be such a a great story. I mean daniel. Jones has been great. You guys like that story. I love that story and credit to you for waiting at least one segment before you got bored with the andrew luck shocking news and started advancing on conspiracy theories when we do in the andrew lucked x._f._l. Segment let's go. We need to move on. I mean it feels like a funeral. It really does and i'm just saying listen the culture ulcer and win now mode and there's a quarterback available who's less in the familiar wave on we haven't we haven't gotten to the signed cabinet. Good situation the night after andrew lucked joins his dad in the x._f._l. Wait with bated breath here. It is only the most stugatz thing ever ever fifteen minutes into our show to be to go straight to both both phrases that are a plague in my life and move on and win now. It is all about win mode. I love windows. Emma guillermo is god's favourite mode win now mode food minutes into the show. We're not even done digesting the thoughts on this or playing. The sounds that we have in students is already. Who do i need to trade for. How do i make my fantasy team better now. This one's kind of tricky because i believe jacoby brusett to be presently better than both cabinet and eli manning but sure let's read as well. That's the other thing. Eli manning's been washed for three seasons but the story story isn't as good. I mean imagine eli playing quarterback where his brother wants played quarterback at taking a team win now mode to a super bowl. I have that that that'd be a great story seriously before twelve because he lamenting now stink. This is one of the super bowl favorites though i've never seen anything like this very sanders was shocking because he was was so close to the record but no one thought that the lions could win the super bowl. This is a tinos being picked as a super bowl team well. I would say that this is what happens to bad organization right right because detroit is that a couple of guys quit on them. Miami ricky williams <hes> except the gronk just quit <hes> on the patriots gronk got so tired of even the winning thing that he was like never mind. I don't wanna do this anymore. This hurts too much. Andrew luck took a physical beating andrew. Luck is not in any way a quitter you don't you would have never thought if i asked you before. This weekend is andrew. Lock a quitter. Your answer answer would have been no if i would have asked you for list of people who've verbally give voice to loving football in a way that's unusual like just love it so much that they can't stop talking. Talking about andrew luck would be very high on that list. He's the guy when a defender on an opposing team's sacked him he would pat him on the helmet like he loved football. I ask you to consider consider. What kind of pain was this human being in that he chose this that he chose. Hundreds of millions of dollars ores in earnings never mind that he chose to disappoint his city his organization the relationships in the organization his teammates what what kind of pain he must have been at home depressed with his new wife in his ear all the time. We don't have to live this way. We don't have to live of like this. Dan i will say this going back to the draft. You'll probably get mad at me for saying this but going back to the draft their war people questioning because of education stanford because because of family and they have money because andrew lock is andrew luck. You'll brent was one of them by the way he's a hall of famer and that's the point. I think you'll get there. Were people questioning his commitment to football football his long term commitment to football because he had so much going for him and had a lot of options. They did question his passion and love coming out of the draft. I remember it. They did question jane his love and passion for the sport football. They did coming out of stanford. They really did people did seal brent. So how do we get him in the monday night. Football booth flushes billy. Where are you on this montage whereas you got tears in your eyes. You're you're you're you're struggling today because we're all gonna miss this andrew lock and we're sitting here today sort of marveling at this <hes> stugotz. His wife is mad at adam schefter furious at adam schefter really mad. I get that she's not the only one she wanted jeff to sit on that news so andrew lock it every proper retirement ceremony yeah. He should've had that next day. I don't want to rush this so we'll have it by thursday. Your home is important. 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Evidently in roy's rolls evidently roy grew up with the hardscrabble times of wouldn't lamps made by your father and ice high school like wired and everything yeah yeah. We worked yeah. No public school systems really failing us. I could make a lamp if i had to put it on the poll. Could you make a lamp. These suzanne suzanne live at our show with two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio rory mcilroy you did it again like spending. I wrote take out adequate entire break practicing it and you did it again. It's like elroy the kid in the jetsons mac elroy rory mcelroy. It's a tough one those two hells man but i could say lama. Those mcelroy have to an i an oh. Maybe that's the problem. I didn't know that mcilroy the i added changes everything amazing raziq. If we took the you out it would fix it as well bags dead anyway one of the tour championship at thirteen under par that won't hurt. It actually mean mean today monday. Forgive you andrew lock affecting you anyway. He won the fedex cup and the biggest payout in golf history fifteen lean million dollars. Wow louisiana one. It's i literally world series title as river ridge defeated curious how eight to nothing and finally firefighters in in estacada oregon rescued a woman they said was trapped in a septic tank possibly for two to three days. They said she had to be flown to the hospital. Spital rescuers said they found her lying raw sewage with her face just above it and a tank outside her role home o officials said she lives there alone the woman's daughter who hide in her from her mother and a few days and called nine one one the fire chief says it looks like there was work being done on the septa tag there was they tracked her in the area and a whole had been dug exposing the tag and then she had fallen through about a two foot by two foot hole. Oh dear god what a horrific story for all the latest headlines and information tune into the sportscenter on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day. Put it on the poll guillermo. Are there her longer three days that you can spend <hes> then three days trapped in a small place with sewage up to your chin. Wow oh wow that is worst nightmare type of stuff. Three days can't possibly ever be as long as those three days work. Ah you have not me sideways with that story famously the story of the man who was a movie one hundred twenty seven got an hour who had to cut off his own arm because he was pin between two boulders in a cave. This is worse. I mean it's put it on the poll. Guillermo what's worse. <hes> three days and you have to cut off your arm or three days trapped in a small hole with sewage not knowing if you'll ever be found weight but i get to keep my arm you get to keep your arm but you don't know when you're in it that you're there's there's an escape ongoing suet either solar right you survive and you keep all your body parts but you don't know what time that's talking about. Which is the worst three days. Amy's and i understand like you're allowed to take the other side on this having having to choose to cut off your own arm seems awful. He's playing the results. I mean he is. You've got to imagine you're in it didn't james franco shave his arm off with like a pencil will not the actor the movie yeah like it was like a dull like what was it like swiss army knife some type of deal. That movie did such a vivid <hes> job of making. You know what that feels like so we've got the sui to get to. There are annual awards show. We have to monster categories today one of them in a half hour biggest mistake from the last year. I'm sure that i will be starring in that particular silly. This is a shock to lead with because over the past two years since it was first introduced to the sui. It's been our best picture. We're coming out. The gates was something that historically has been the best picture category. You know how the oscars usually starts with like best actor best actress best supporting. Even we're coming out with a bang so its biggest mistake. We've got that for you and a half hour we have to get to wise to his wife is so mad at adam schefter. We have to get to o._j. Simpson's twitter account that is <hes> oddly charming a- and we we want to get to that but first the americans are gonna embarrassed us in basketball this year right this <hes> we just gave it to canada and we did eh game. We're gonna is a mean somewhere here to tell me how scared <hes> we should be. How panicked our situation. <hes> should be because i really fear that. We're in a situation here where <hes> serbia can blow our doors off where we're we. We might not finish top three. I i do believe this as the re this runs the risk of being the biggest international basketball embarrassment that we've had since russians were stealing games from us with the referee. Joe harris started a game. I mean how worried should we be that these americans the kemba walker is not gonna be able to save us. We're all of a sudden. The charlotte of olympic pick basketball dan. I'm terrified. I'm absolutely terrified that the sum of all fears is going to happen and what a lot of people don't realize that keep we've seen over. We have a roster full of n._b._a. Players no other country can claim that and that's nice depth is nice but the problem isn't a forty minute game if i could play janas thirty seven of them well then it doesn't matter how many n._b._a. Players i have none of them are as good as him and we all know that in basketball one player can dominate the sport. It's not even it's not even the greeks that i'm scared of it though i should be it's the serbians they play together and their coaches out here saying may god help the american no no. That's never great about the survey coaches out of your trash-talking. They think that they're better. They think they're better than us and they have. They have a reasonably confident. <hes> and i think that's the big thing here is. We've moved past the point of look. They're not afraid of us to their competent. They are confident that they can beat us and it doesn't help when we go out and we play against australia and we let patty mills with alan iverson and so. I brought this up the first game we beat them and everyone's well patty. Mills international players always granted yes but he's seven hundred years old. This isn't patty mills ten years ago. This is patty mills right now giving it to us and if we can't stop him. How are we gonna stop bogdanovich. How are we gonna stop yokich. Jaanus the like. We gotta take this stuff seriously but you know what in the big red flag was dan. The the biggest red flag was when they lost a scrimmage against the u._s._a. Select team led by luminaries like the quan jeffries and chris kilter luminaries they lost by three points and so they ran it back and then they lost by twenty one. We're in trouble. We're in trouble yeah. We're in trouble trouble and it on the poll guillermo lebatardshow. Does it mean to be official and notarized u._s._a. Basketball is in deep deep trouble. It's gonna be fun though lovable basketball underdog the little engine that could united states basketball imagine they pull it off right. I mean would it be like the miracle article on ice by the way you've followed basketball twitter some what's happening here with o._j. Simpson twitter mike <hes> last week. You told us you don't know how to a feel about this because your charm by him on twitter or yeah he's such a great follow. He's charming and the production value has really improved each and every entry. It's just really difficult for me to process because i believe he has killed two people right and so he had he launched he launched he was the real victim in this whole andrew luck accentuation because he had just drafted him an hour before and his fantasy league and o._j. Simpson has every right to why. I don't wanna say burner autumn vig later. He has every right to be angry at andrew luck. This video starts off so great because it starts with a slow pan again. The production value also one of the better lit videos of the o._j. Simpson twitter experience so far sitting at a draft table dejected having a glass of red wine. Here's the juice you could've retired hour and a half ago before pitching in my bed i mean what did i do this to me. Come out of retirement and if you're wondering that comes courtesy of react the real o._j. Thirty two on twitter ammo put on the poll did that sound like murderous rage from a charming and polished polished yours truly. J simpson doesn't refer to himself as j simpson because he knows how stain that name is. He just goes to your work treliske. Yours truly still a thing like this row j. and now i've made it a thing. I use it so much when it shows you how embarrassed i am now. I watch videos constantly johnson louis then i've been work shopping limited they go oh boy. Oh all of this might be a sui nominee for next on a second slowdown they won't be don't you remember his big alvin gentry. I mean hold on a second. Just let's tease it a little bit here because we're gonna build up to something so the audience the ends can have something to light added pressure maximum disappointments. Come oliver's impressions are variations of obama donlevatar. I don't know anything stugatz. I don't remember what i was gonna. Talk about so in those instances. What i have is a default. That just makes fun of stugatz. You're welcome. These are show with stugatz bats on e._s._p._n. Radio fifteen minutes from now we do something that is among the most popular earth thing that we do every year <hes> we do the sui awards for the entire week. We do it before football season. It's a remembrance brent of all the awful radio. We've made over the last year historically a slow newsweek right not today. That's why john john mcenroe is on. I take talking about andrew lock and the andrew lock. <hes> news has dominated. Everything here and i understand dan why some people would be upset. I also understand why andrew luck would choose andrew luck over the people who are upset many of you because he's a generational talent. Many of you are saying to yourself. What if you've about the next ten years of andrew luck's football life you're saying well what would it have been if he had played for the next ten years and he's still withholds the right hi to come back at any point. I'll be surprised if people don't start talking about romo for that gold job if you're in if you're all of a sudden in win now mode as to godson. Let's <hes> mentioned earlier while note so andrew luck finds himself in this situation where fans are angry angry. Stu gods and i ask you this if your angry at him for what would the next ten years have been like. What do you think i think he's going to be doing on a sleepless night at forty years old that he decided never mind about what if i've worked all my life for this thing that i've always is wanted that is my identity i love football fame and glory and just the game itself right and i said never mind and i'd love to have an honest conversation member station with andrew luck about what he's been honestly talking about with his wife because it doesn't seem like the colts were totally unprepared for this given that they negotiated a settlement last last week to give him all of his money so they can't be all that surprised by what just happened. The colts organization if lower week they were working on a financial angels settlement and it makes me wonder without knowing this is how you're going to have so much coverage today all over the sports news networks about this andrew lock. Ah we're going to take sides and we're going to talk about <hes> what's right and what's wrong but what's gonna be undercover today and what we are not equipped equipped to cover is the colts. Give him that money because of kindness or are they trying to avoid whatever malpractice problems they might have because they clearly really screwed up that guy's body he had a shoulder injury that we've never seen before the delayed him for months and months they get three or is this off. Season couldn't figure out what was wrong along with his leg like this is an enormous indictment of the colts medical staff that they had this treasure and they helped they participated in making quit. Even as andrew luck gave voice his press conference thanking the doctors and makes me wonder if that financial settlement. I would like to know what the private conversations were like about the financial settlement because i doubt very much that football on bent knee just said hey keep the twenty five million andrew. You're just so special to us that you can quit and we'll do it without any rancor kirk. We won't go dan gilbert on you. We won't do anything. We'll just be like oh. It's okay andrew because my guess is that they have a decent idea if they look through all their medical stuff man. This wasn't great work by us if feels like either don't sue us or when you decide to come back and play. Please come play for us. We gave twenty. I doubt it's kindness uh-huh doubt i doubt it simple altruism. I doubt the jim irsay has become buddha all of a sudden. I mean it's twenty. Five million dollars just gave him money like they never do that. If a guy quits man calvin johnson still fighting the lions over a million dollars is still fighting over it. It could be a coincidence but it's really really odd entering. This season not really knowing what the quarterback satis is. He can be practicing this week. He's really closed missed the entire season and it's ultra bizarre that happened to previous times both with colts quarterbacks. He told peter king two or three weeks ago. I will be ready for week. One no question no tower three weeks ago dan one of the reasons this is so stunning is because he had never given voiced anything other than loving football and this this. This is an act of someone who does not love it. This is an act of someone who hates what it's done to his body and mind he didn't really give it thought outside of saying that he'd never would put himself in that cycle again that he had a couple of years ago where it was rehabbing all all offseason not being able to practice with the team. He told himself that he'd never do it again but he gave voice saying that he actually never really considered this until recently. I'll be honest. I didn't imagine retiring when it didn't matter to retire until two weeks ago so shortly after telling peter king. I guess that he was going to be ready. Weak one. They broke his body. They broke his mind and at the end. Those fans broke his heart because he was he and i get it man. The fans are upset because there goes the next ten years. Those are hard to get those quarterbacks right. There goes does the next ten years and right before your season of high expectations is about to start but it hurt him and he gave voice to it in a super vulnerable moment really i'm running off the field. I'm trying to handle this the right way to tell my teammates. I the newsbreaks because adam schefter is a really good reporter her and shocking you get you don't buy your credibility has to be for schefter to report something. That's shocking and nobody questioned it. Do you know where your credibility has to be. Gene and people are mad at chef. They should be mad at whoever told schefter that none at schefter that schefter did his job. Don't be mad at him. He did his job exceedingly well if he sits on that someone else scoops him them. A big sui is next.

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#1765 How to kill the pitchfest (and still run a profitable event)

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1:21:11 hr | 1 year ago

#1765 How to kill the pitchfest (and still run a profitable event)

"Hey, there freedom-fighter is my name is Andrew warm, founder of mixed. Her g wear interview entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses, and who's out a I guess it was called the mastermind was at Andrew the Joe. So did yes the mastermind weekend. So I flew to DC I spoke there, and it was a good crowd about one hundred plus people. Right, for a in-depth event where Joe was presenting the whole time except for me and one other person we had with short presentation. And what was interesting to me was that he, he and I were talking about how the event was profitable for him. And he and you had to strategize about how to make sure that the event wasn't a loss. And you Andrew lock. Are not just helping him create an event this profitable. You've been doing it yourself, and that stands out to me, largely because when I interview people who run conferences and other events like traffic and conversion Ryan Deiss says that he was losing money on the first one. Oh, yeah. It's a tough thing to do frankly, we did an event last year around the chat bots base. It was it was a money loser frost to significant, but we definitely lost money. And so I'm bassin aided by how you're actually able to to turn a profit on events in what, what you've learned that I should be learning from. The event that you're running now and it's actually going to be happening in a few days in Las Vegas is called Sam and Sam stands for speakers off. Actually, what does it stand for? It's not speakers authors. It sales advertising and marketing, right? You almost came up with another event. And what you're doing is. You're going to have twenty three experts talk about sales and advertising and marketing or one of them and they're going to do it in eighteen minute talks. And that's kinda taking that whole Ted model, which is kind of interesting eye, opening enlightening and making it more actionable. Useful and and business Centric nasty before we started as a profitable in you said, yeah, we start talking about how was profitable. And I said, wait, let's, let's make sure that we get this on camera. And so we're going to talk about it for those people who are interested, this event will happen, June thirteenth and fourteenth in Las Vegas. And you can get a free sponsor ticket right now which also is kind of interesting that he's, he's offering the tickets for free. I kinda think the sponsor ticket part is, is a marketing thing in my right Andrew. It's the positioning. Yeah. I thought some rain at the in many ways, it is it is true. You know, the sponsors, essentially cover the cost we can get into that, too. Yeah. It's, it's a way of presenting it. A reason because everybody wants to know reason why if you offer a free ticket. It's like well, what's the catch? Yes. Going to talk about that within this interview I want to find out how you pulling this together. This interview is sponsored by two great sponsors. Speaking of sponsors, who make this interview happened the first we'll do your Email marketing, right? It's called active campaign and the second will help you build your website for anything for an event for your free software company. Whatever it's called hostgator. I'll talk about why you should be using those later. I Andrew, let's talk about this year so far where we're kind of early most tickets. I feel like the biggest bursts of tickets are gonna come close to the, the start date you sold so far, or how many tickets have you given away so far. Well at the time that we are recording this with. Just inching up two thousand just I think maybe twenty or so. Sure, thousand and when you give it away for free how many people actually show up what's the percentage? Well. It's I mean it's different every time but. What we anticipate is anywhere from Hof to, to the and the reason. We can say that is because we have a very detailed campaign to keep in touch with people, and basically keep them excited about the event. So I just found that too about how you get at least half of them to show up Ray. They're just kinda locking it in like last year. How many people showed up? We didn't do it last year. But the last time we did it. We had three hundred and fifty which was a full house for the theater that we've been fifty showed up. Yes. What's the revenue from that? The revenue was let me grab my calculates. Really? Okay. I want to know why the revenue comes from when you're not selling tickets. I feel like an in a world where now everyone seems to be doing events every software company. It was in the region of about two hundred two hundred ten thousand revenue and was it profitable? Yes. But the whole point of this is. To change their poach of how these events had dumb because the traditional approach the vast majority of people use when putting on these types of business events is, is purely to sell tickets. And maybe they sell out of the things the event more, you know, do the fifty fifty speak that kind of thing. But, you know, we I founded this with Ryan Lee, incidentally, not the mocked on the ice on the east coast. In the whole reason, why became up with this concept was of Sam was because we were both really kind of frustrated him fed up with the events that we were going to for lots of different reasons. We, they didn't resonate with us in not only did they not resonate, but they really kind of. We want enjoying it anymore. Do you know what I kind of feel like I know you, you're, you're more of a mercenary than that, you're not just a missionary, if you saw that events, weren't resonating with you'd say, you know what? I'm just not gonna go to vents anymore. I'll hang out. I I'm in love. I've got nobody likes the thing is both Ryan and I have always own events both separately and together different scales of decisive him. We had one for quite a while. But we also speak at a lot of events. And so we were very we felt like we were very in tune with what was going on in the world of business to say, you know what I'm giving up on events on somebody who does a lot of how content I'll just do that. What was it about event, because as events bring something that, that isn't possible throughout the channels to actually. Hang out with your customers, and people that, you know, want to get to know you it's, it's very, it's unique experience that you cannot get through any other channels. You know, we, we are so used to the digital row now that a lot of people have forgotten that in a best is of connection. Something magical definitely happens at events. But you have to do the event in the right way. We want enjoying the events that were speaking at, and we also felt like the events that we would doing sales had become also bit stale. So it was time for a reinvention in with books like blue ocean strategy in this one that kind of encouraged us to, to think very differently in zig zagging. Okay. Tell me about let's be open air, one of your events where you felt like it's getting stale. I can't keep going without approach anymore. Oh, I mean, I could give you lots of examples. The. I mean, everybody knows the phrase pitch fast. Right. Uh-huh. And this model where you have a whole bunch of speakers. They eat speak for typically an hour and a half, sometimes longer and the lost thirty minutes or so of that presentation is in a pretty hot sell pitch. Well, you know, if the speakers if the speakers delivering value amend they offer something that genuinely is of good of is gonna help evil. I don't have a problem with that toll. But you're saying you're events became a pitch gust not my not my events. But events that I was speaking, speaking at. Yeah. And so when you pitch, you get you split the revenue with the event organized big typical fifty fifty with some promoters, now in finding a lot harder to Phillipines sometimes those splits can be as much as seventy thirty seventy savor of the ogre now, seven thirty. Sent to the speak up thirty percent of speaker because that's how they make their money got it. Yeah. I think it was it was Russell Brunson from click funnels. I interviewed him and he said, that's where he will he figured out his, his model where he was speaking of an where he made money because he was pitching at the back. All right. So I understand this model. I know that it's been working for a while, I think Ryan Deiss told me in his interview, look the thing that he wanted to do was get rid of the pitch fest any insisted people now pitch. And that was his his change. You are looking at this world and having the same feeling which is I don't want to go into a conference where people are pitching all the time. I'm not even making that much money when I go to conference. And I'm hitching all the time it doesn't feel great for anybody. There's gotta be a better way. A ho blue ocean strategy means star blank with something brand new and see what can we create and what you came up with was you said, tell me if I'm wrong. So Ted approach of keeping presentations, short means that are short attention span. Yup. Likes it. But how do we make it be a little bit more useful? How do we bring that approach to our world of entrepreneurs marketers? You're nodding. That's what it was. Exactly. And so, so the two components to it that were radically different from anything anyone had done. Vol, one was this Ted approach of short presentations. No one is allowed to do a sales pitch in that presentation, everyone has to make the presentation practically it's in a follow these steps in, you'll get this result. And that was right. You know what I like that? So it's a specific model. Keep it short and get out of the way. But also, it has to be specific follow these steps in, you'll get that result asked to be practical. The speakers need to be engaging. They need to be. Good storytellers, and they need to have achieved the results that they teaching and so this, you know, there's a lot of criteria in among that eighteen minute presentation in terms of how we fill to speak. So a lot of speaker, you know, I get pitched almost every day with speakers for Sam, and most of them, I have to say no to because they don't meet the criteria that I stopped wished. The just like Ted's as a right, good, job, filtering speak, because so that they, you know, they are left with the cream of the crop. So that was the one component. And then the other component that I decided to add into the mix to make this truly unique was interspersing. These business presentations, with live entertainment, in my background originally was from the entertainment industry, not used to produce shows. So for me, I could I could never understand why entertainment didn't come into events more. I mean occasionally, you would see something in the entertainment in a category, but it would be read, and it would be usually badly done if a tool. And so I felt like okay if we, if we created Sam, always to be in a in a feta appropriate with fuss clause lighting sound system, and we have business presentations and throughout the day performances from incredible saying as musicians comedians, and so on this left, brain right, brain stimulation. Would make it much. Why joy -able but people to line, and they would remember more. And that's exactly what happened. Okay, I'm kind of surprised by that because I would have thought that business people would not want to sit and watch guitarist are onstage. I got too much to do. It's an interesting comment that you say that, but, but fundamentally Andrew people wanna be entertained, most people kind of look forward to the weekend, when they can let the head down a little bit. And the reality, too, is, you know, we're very upfront with what Sammy's. And so one of the reasons why someone would choose to come to Sam is because they do enjoy both entertainment and learning about business, so we're not. We're not sort of bringing anyone in the foes, pretext. Is that something as berry appealing to the right? Yeah. I would love to be detained damn. Learn same. I wanna find. Out about, like, how much you paying your speakers. Or do you have to pay speakers? I want to talk about how you figure out if they're really good storytellers, if they actually can do practical, stuff with you. Let's talk about the money because I feel like that's the part that kind of hangs over our heads here. Where's the money coming from? If people aren't paying for tickets, it's from well, there's multiple streams of you know as as we said with the traditional model it's buy a ticket. That's the main revenue what we've done is reversed it so that we, we. Significant out of pocket on the front end, but knowing that we haven't proven system on the back end. So. First of all, there's revenue from spun says, we, we offer packages anywhere from fifteen hundred dollars to the top one six thousand dollars. And for this upcoming event. I think we have in the region of about eighteen sponsors, and the sponsor comes on after each talk. It seems like note does. No, there's no presence on the stage at all from sponsors. However myself and Chris, as the hosts will give credit to sponsors. We, we have lots of different ways that give them visibility throughout event. But the it's not what's the biggest thing that you'll do for sponsor. Well, the, the most high-profile is while I hope into interpretation. But Kristen, I will will talk about this on says it in a more natural way, Robin, just being vich at Pitt Trump. Also, we send text message to the attendees throughout the days that they're and incorporated in those mentions of the sponsors throughout the breaks in the sponsors appear on the screens. They obviously have a presence in at exhibit two area whether it can meet an interact with the attendees, so, yeah, lots of different. There's an exhibits area guy. Okay. All right. I got I got a sense of. So that, that's one that's one aspect Thurs paying, like what you say. Fifteen hundred eight hundred six thousand. Yeah. Eh thought that much six thousand dollars gets you. What? Adds up. Well, just just the different just the different tiers than they get a booth and they get you talk non stage and they get their name on stuff. Got it. Okay. I. Yeah. That's a small portion of your revenue my guesses. Right. What percentage would you say and how it makes it helps cover the cost that we would have got from ticket sales? So how much roughly actually pay for the event? Steve. Might not be looking up. Storm since before we started. Oh, jeez. Okay. Probably looking at about. Eighteen thousand eighty okay. All right. And then, so that's a small portion. It seems to me the next is that the things that you sell what are those? So we, you know, the another kind of component, but which helps us we'll have a store there. Many of almost I would say of the speakers have books, so we saw speak because books and you know, take take a cut of that, and that's you know, we also arrange for signings. And it's you know, we, we sell a lot of books. Oh, yeah, really? You're not because people people want a c- a speaker. They is only eighteen minutes. So it's natural for them to want more. So I guess if Jay Abraham is on stage. I hear him talk. Then when I come off. He's, he's signing and. Yeah. Okay. All right. So that's that's one. That's one thing. Right. So. And then the sales of products that we offer to events, one is very natural follow up to Sam, which is we could we call it the build a better business event, which is another two day event. And it's the whole idea of is to. Elaborate in much more detail and make it into a sort of a more logical. Progression for people to learn how they can grow any business using CEOs advertising marketing, it really expanding on what they've learned Sam. So that's, that's the one thing is that sorry is that like your master. That's the two event too. That's a whole other events or somebody who's sitting in the audience my by that s exactly. And then the other the other two day event is, again a very natural tie into someone who's at Sam we call it the Sam speaking school. And the promise is essentially learn how to create your own Sam talk or your own Ted talk about style of short presentation. And we, we make the offer that, you know, the, the students who graduate from that program will be given consideration to present at future Sam event. So it's, it's, you know, it's quite appealing so they get the become better. Speakers you like the speakers or they just saw. Ed potentially get to speak on stage. What does that sell for exactly? The speaking school is two thousand and they which is smallest guy event and the build a better business to Devon at a larger event, which is two hundred two hundred those events where we sell a mastermind full fifteen thousand and that's typically looking about twenty people. Take that and that's fifteen thousand one time. Yes, for while for the year for the year and then that includes a calling you in texting, you also doesn't. It's we, you know, I've been I've been running masterminds full. Probably about ten years now. And. I've learned a lot in the process about what people want and also well, I want what I don't want. And so I've designed a mastermind concept that I really enjoy doing and the, you know, one of the things I don't enjoy doing is individual coast. That's we don't do that. The main thing that we do is have three in-person to day meetings out spread throughout the one of them is the destination meeting. Like, you know, why often I'll take take a group behind the scenes at DisneyWorld or something like that. And yeah, it's, you know, like I said, I've designed the group that, that inspires me and makes me happy to do it. Not not dread because that. Intense relationship with people you don't like them. It's just crushing it does. It's not. It's unpleasant job because it is. So, and so it comes with one in person meeting, and then the right person got it. They don't even have to pay for those events. They just are included in the fifteen thousand three times two days and nothing throughout the year. We will meet once a month online, as a group, nothing else like zoom like I'm doing with you. I gotta talk about my I just feel like I'm like pushing for every bit of information is unbearable. No, you like it. Good. I'm glad I'm looking at you. And I feel like maybe he actually Andrew thinks that this is a little too much that would. I'm an open. I'm an open book. I know I'm passionate about SAM's. I love talking about it. I can see I feel like this is something that a lot of what you've done is you've felt good about this, actually. I wanna come back to that in a minute, because I want to tell you the exact Genesis the, let's actually very helpful entrepreneurs. Okay. All right. Let me talk about my first sponsor who should my first sponsor beach. I about active campaign or hostgator. Tell you what I'm gonna talk about host gator. 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No Kagan when he started absolu- where he sells software. And soon after that, he started sumo dot com. He makes his own software, not selling other people's software. Remember, he came over to my house for dinner, and I was like starting conversation with people, and I say. You think about like paying too much taxes. What should we do about this is their way of, you know, his answer was shutdown Andrews conversation about that. He said, I'm happy as much money as I make happy to pay as much taxes as I need to. Like that conversation didn't go anywhere. Which thankfully, we had a bunch of really interesting people in my house for dinner. And so I could find other conversations. But boy, shut me down. I thought maybe you know, maybe I'm over thinking this frigging guy writes a book. He sells it for a hundred bucks. It's, it's called something like what the rich don't want you to know. I'm only interested in it, because the guy sells a for a hundred bucks, I tweet out, is this book, and he good is anyone know, and Ryan, Deiss sesame, Andrew, actually, it's a, it's a really good book. Okay. Who cares hundred bucks? Let's go. Let's go do it. It's not just a novelty that he's like riffing on me. So I get the book and in it, he breaks down, like all the different ways that he saves on taxes, like all the different ways. It is friends save on taxes, and some of them I've actually heard people talking to me in private an and I'm glad that he's talking about them a little more publicly about all these different ways to save money and invested and to make a little bit more a commute example. What comes from his book? These people who use a broker who will get a person works at the airline to say that you Andrew, if you hire this broker personal works at the airline will say, interlocks long lost relative of mine, and because Andrew's long lost relative of mine, he should be able to fly for free using my friends and family or my family tickets. And so the broker will match you up with someone who works at the airline. You give the broker money, the broker gives it to the person who works at the airline you'll get it out to fly for free off in first class. Maybe even usually I forgot he, he said that in his book. Yeah, I've had friends. Tell me about this. They will not let me talk about publicly. He said in his book Lee said, I can't tell you who the brokers are and I can't tell you who does it. It's not hard to find if you need it. I do she happened to know that the as is weeks ago. United came out with a huge news. On exactly that, the they fired forty employees as. For debt in that. It is absolutely a fireable offense. It's I wonder how much this is going on. And how much is not? But this whole book is full of stuff like this is what people are doing. And that's not really very helpful if he doesn't give any resources in that Casey doesn't, but in other cases, he absolutely gives resources, you also says, here's how he breaks how he cannot avoid taxes, but how we could reduce taxes by doing things that are legal. But we don't talk about them, because it's crass to say I make so much money. I wanna find a way to save on taxes. Right. It's crassus. I talked to my friends, here's what's crafts. We're going to talk about it into, or at least gonna write it in this book was interesting to me, is that he had this goal of how much passive income you wanted to make. And a lot of it was like from his real estate and other stuff. But another part coming back to hostgator was sitting writes his blog, and he actually makes considerable revenue from his book, blog posts about the books they read, and then he links over to Amazon and is linked to so like insignificant that I never even noticed they were at the end. Not summaries reviews. It's kind of a combination of summary in review. It's him telling you what he learned from the books, and it was interesting to me, this guy's been blogging for years on, okay, dork. Yeah. He likes to blog it out the books that he reads and the stuff that he gets. And some of us end up following the Lincoln buying the book, many people imagined foll- Lincoln goal. You know what? I actually meant to buy a new whatever a new room bar or something. And then he makes commission off of that. So why am I bringing this up because I think a lot of people sharing their paintings on other people's sites. They're not getting too much money. 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And maybe you could like no Kagan come to my house and tell me that you don't care about saving money on taxes, and then one day you can actually care so much about it that you write a whole book on it. If that's your path take it to hostgator dot com slash mixer. Jane. All right. Now, everyone's going over to no kidding side. What the hell's he doing and his? Not much. He's just like he likes to think through it is he's a reader. We all our readers, but, like he thinks throughout loud. My approach is a little bit more of a loud mouth, I like to talk to author, and then I like to berate them. Does this even make sense? All right. Seth Godin was really good with me on that. And he, he liked that I got into it with him on his book. And then he opened me up to be that push with everyone else. I kinda talking because I see you looking up at your screen, it's something be open. What are you looking up? At what are you lime? I'm looking at now kagan's book. Oh, oh, you are right. Yeah. Hundred dollar Bill. I actually don't mind. That's a hundred bucks. Here's the part that was off. Putting for me. It's not a digital book. I read books on my kindle, my on my ipad on you want those. Yeah. So I have to keep remembering what I put the book. Yeah. What I did. I put it in the kitchen on my wife's cookbooks. She pulled it away. It's like I said, she clever that he sold for one hundred dollars. I mean that says in its. Yeah. Out from the crowd is great, it is. We were talking. And specifically saying, look if you're making less than a hundred thousand dollars a year. Just don't buy this book. It's not it's not for you. And frankly, I would even say if you're making less than three hundred thousand a year, you shouldn't get that book, it's at some point to make sense at other points, just yeah. Okay. All right, twisting. I like it means. A very interesting person. Yeah. Oh, boo. A little bit of a wack job, which is what I love best. My best friend are little bit wacky. Good loosen down a drinks and everyone will open up with me. I like it. He told me what he's thinking about when he's having sex, this is this is a little bit more than most people, I think I talked to you about, like your relationships did when we were sitting down in. Don't worry. I'm not going to bring up what you said it was invited. Boy. I love like personal conversations. I was actually at, at that event in Vegas. Joe soda put on. I went to go run because I'm training to run seven marathons this year. I'm saying myself. Andrew just walk past when you're done with the gym one asked everyone go into your room, walk past everyone going to walk past everyone going to. Hey Andrew, how're you doing this right up to you and hours later? The most interesting guy was guy was sitting there who was into who's using who's a kind of a shy guy, within the context of the event, but he was using Tinder in an interesting way, and I said, let me see Tinder conversations, and he showed it to me. Yeah. Yeah. What of his conversations was? I'm here in Dulles Virginia. Do you want to look up right now? That was actually very eye opening it really was. I like as I opening is my interviews, are, if you like my personal more so about ten you feel, what I feel old when it was not talking about ten to happier from what I remember you're in a happy relationship, right? I you generally look at beating right now. It's hard to tell because your complexion, but you're turning red with, with excitement mind or the light ni-. Well, are you still in love? Tell me about your relationship. Your love with. I, I don't know if you remember this, but I. She has never ever happened to me for all the events that I speak at route the is one time about. Three years ago after an event, one of the attendees came up to me, and she would I just knew like I have to get to know this girl that was incredible. And thankfully, she felt the same way about me and long distance relationship, but we've made it works. Befall get like bi-coastal or something or not. You're not on the call. She's, she's in Sweden. Oh was enough further right, lie international? Wow. Eamon. Wow. You're like face timing, all the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What's up really? Okay. Yeah. Right. Anyone outside the US face timing. What's happening? I let's come back to business. Ten the mastermind. The Bill the better business one. Yeah. I wanna share with you. What the sort of Genesis, I was at an event, and I'm. Unfortunately, I don't remember who set this up it, what's more important is what they said. And you may have heard this before. I don't know. It was talking. You know about success in what success remains and a number only on his own journey about how to be happy and. Not just financially, but also truly deep down being feeling fulfilled and. I've, you know, I'm an entrepreneur, I've done a lot of things and, and continue to, to do a lot of things. But what he said, well as. The the turning point for him. What he recommended to the audience was to find a why that makes you cry. And that those words just really hit me find a why that makes you cry. Because, you know, I love the things that I was doing, you know, I felt like yeah it's, it's work. You know, I kind of enjoy it, you know, but I definitely didn't feel that deep resignation. And, and you know it, it definitely those things did not move me emotionally and that's the point hit. And so I started thinking about it. Well, you know what has? What has done that for me? And. I realized that I needed to, to refocus and bring him more of my background from the entertainment world. And essentially create what I was what I've always been good at which is show crates show for the market that I love which is under printers. And you know, it was it was a big shift for me. As really made a huge difference in my own happiness, because Sam is truly a why that makes me cry. I love putting this event on I get great genuine deep satisfaction from it as well as being as well as being able to support a great charity and make a wish foundation. So, you know, I it sort of checks all the boxes for me, which if I once had looked, honestly, what the various things I was doing before. I couldn't check all the boxes I could check one two. And so hopefully, that'd be helpful to some watching this is, you know, two maybe just pause for the lion, while and really deeply think am I doing. Do I have in, in what I do? And how I spend my time why that rarely makes me cry some I might doing. Something that moves me emotionally and ready satisfies me, deep down emotionally, rob, just a means to make money. I've been looking up your Lincoln. I'm trying to see where in the past you are in entertainment. I know you were a web TV producer in two thousand one is. I mean I I don't really listed on on linked him. But basically, my original background was was well, let's go back even further than that. Yeah. School. I was absolutely passionate about two in on my school holidays. I would always work. My local data, I would work on drama type shows plays musicals and also like with touring bands. And so on. I to when I left school became a cameraman BBC TV produce an event, live event producer and produced events like miss UK, which, you know, they criminal would be misuse will Miss America. And I also worked with a whole bunch of bands as well. So I was very, very must in entertainment until I. And I managed to survive famous celebrity to Australia, Mustang entertainment celebrity, this let you wouldn't know him because he was, it was a I guess, the white deal any celebrity, I'm gonna wait to compare him would be he would he would be like the Jimmy Fallon of England. Okay. What's his name? His name's Paul Daniels Paul Daniels. Okay. So. Yeah. That was my background. That's what I would imagine book with him. Yes. No. Okay. So he was. I mean, he was he was he was someone I grew up watching on TV. He was on every he was the prime time entertainment on Saturday nights. Baronet minders in England at the time there was any three channels, the juice from BBC ninety eight. So the his whole Daniel show on Saturday nights would get. Ran writings of that would be far far bigger than any individual TV show here, because, you know, the, the shows hair, the audience is so segmented because you got so many child in England in every single person in the population knew this guy. So as an appeared on the show. Yeah. Of looking I, I look up everything he did. Fakest residencies a couple of times, we did the tool in the states. I mean he wasn't really not in the states, but his shot was actually syndicated in forty three countries around the world. Okay. So I now see your theatrical background. Yeah. The challenge for a lot of events is most beakers are not that dynamic, they're not that interesting. Right. And so what do you do to make sure that their practical that they actually tell stories instead of like bullet points at the audience, which bores me to death? Yeah. How do you do that? I as a very, very good question. First of all, I have a very strong filters as I mentioned earlier, so that, you know. To for someone to actually be approved as a Sam speaker is, you know, is a is a big compliment, because, you know, we, we turned down Fafa more than we ever accept, but beyond that. So. So, you know, we know that they're a good speaker at the outset beyond that what I've done is I've created. I'm just looking at right now in my notes we created. Speaker instructions. Do you want do a screen share on this on? I don't know that our audience will be able to hear. We'll be able to see it. So nobody's, but it makes it comes just look in the NATs, four page document that goes into great detail about what makes a great Sam talk about how most people most people are going to ignore that. I, I'm glad you do that. Well, ignore it or they won't get it right. Don't you? We you know, again, you could say the same thing about Ted. This is what Ted does. And so, so what one of the things that I remember a friend of mine was giving a Ted like Ted company talk, whatever that is where the people will help companies get great speakers. And he said they forced him to go through his presentation over and over, and he was annoyed because he's already a good presentation presenter, said, you know what actually learned to become a better presenter, because of it that you actually go through that with the x. You do this, this is the difference. You know you. With most presentations, and you know this, because you've been you've spent a lot of events, you know it. You're pretty much left your own devices. But that's not acceptable because the whole one of the big aspects of brat of the Sam brand is the high quality presentations, it's extraordinary event for extrordinary people. And so it's, it's a non negotiable that you force them. They're required to give. All right. So a lot of the people who speak too. That's actually interesting. So you they have to do it. I'm guessing you do a zoom. Yeah. What you know whatever whatever method is. Whatever they like. So if they wanted to be a what's out that's fine. But they have to give it to you. Is it awkward when they're giving you the prison presentation for eighteen minutes? Now, they actually present the talk to us, but we will review the slides beforehand, and we will also review, the we will also go through the guidelines with them. So, in other words that there's no as never any excuse for someone say, oh, yeah. You know, I didn't get information all they have to get a call and do it. Yes. Okay. And then they have to send you the slides. My guess is that most speakers still have not giving you the slides. We're getting close to the event day and they still they will, you know, this is the third Sam. And again, it's non-negotiable they have to send it over. And part of the reason, too, is because it's theatrical event, and we have a theatrical style control, and so on, is it. We cannot handle someone bringing lies to the event, it's not technically with. Thin activate abilities to just in a do that at the last minute. So it's again, it's a case, that's part of it that they have to they have to send it over the is. I can't I'm the town of so many dads. I can't find the tabloid Sam. You also have like, really well known people people who are specially good at it like let's talk about Jay Abraham. Yeah, I found I was supposed to have Abraham on. I found the Jay Abraham. His weather. He was working with was so insistent on a lot of things I won't get into specifics of what they were insistent on to keep it private. But the so insistent, I finally said, I know got this book can't do it. Thank you so much. And yet doing well that's, that's good. I'm glad that he does that I think are more a lot more interviewees should be more demanding. They should be. At the same time, there is a balance. And, you know, I can from my background in the entertainment world. I'm very, very used to dealing with something called a rider with tries. No. I, I get that. That's what people's demand certain things like. But what you what you may not know with writers, is that. They, they are really a cool to be attentive in the entire the thing about the red M and M's. I only want about Redant Eminem though. It was like no. It was van Halen. I think no blue no Brown Eminem's or something like that. Will you read the whole rider? They know you have read the rider, which is because they said that they have all this heavy equipment. And if you didn't get the M's right missed a thing. It's interesting that you that, you know that. So, so my point is with this is the it's still a negotiation. So in whereas someone else may be put off by you know, just having these lists of demands of view is non-negotiable from Mike back then in entertainment, that's just a starting point. And frankly, that's what we did. With Jay Abraham. Because when, when I spoke to his team about Sam, they said, well, you know, Jay never speaks for less than an hour. I said, well, there is no around our Tokes eighteen minutes. That's what it is. That's the format and they said, well, you know, he can't do that. I said, well, you know, I would encourage you to actually told him about is because Sam as a unique concept in is actually a great challenge to do an antenna a short enough. I told him and he was like, yeah. Actually, that is kind of code to tough that challenge. See what I mean? I do see that. Do you pay him to speak? You must know speaker is paid. He's not getting. Paid. But he is he does. I don't feel like he just does stuff to do stuff, his upside blacks, the concept of Sam. He's Dobbs for free just because he's going to you flying about your putting them in a nice hotel. Yes. Okay. I get that. Oh, you're hesitating. Which means that, like you're worried that some other speakers are gonna ask for it. But Jaber limit. We've right open with speakers invite, you know. An an I think it is important to, to treat speakers well, but, you know, the less a few things have festival Sam is an unusual event and so speak his like that, you know, they like the fact that it's not speakers, like it'd be home with their girlfriends with their husbands. They don't want. They don't wanna fly out. Let's, let's clarify that let's say some speakers. Right. Okay. So you're saying there's a handful of speakers, just say this is interesting enough, I'm gonna consensus looking at some of these people on the list. Let's not signal signal single Jay Abraham L, aren't they asking to sell or make some money off of this? They don't just need another audience of three hundred thousand people to show us, do people do people have different motivations. And among the speakers speaking of this, Sam, there is a multitude of motivations for some it is that they are genuinely passionate about the chosen charity, which is make a waste. But others it is. They like the challenge that they've never done before, which is, you know, Ted. Ted is not for business. And so there is no Tej for business until Sam. And so a lot of speakers resonate with the concept of the challenge of doing an eighteen minute presentation, they the prospect of doing that actually excites them. That's another motivation of a third motivation is a lot of speakers have never spoken in intrical, trickle setting where we also have a very. You know, very high quality, TV quality multi camera setup so they will get a a like the best looking. Promotional video out of this from that from that performance. On vacation, so. My another one is simply that they want to get in front of a different type of crowd. You know, there's so many different motivations among the, the spectrum of speakers. Two new video for his real Joe sugarman is a copyrighting you actually legend under his name you come on. But Joe sugarman is a copyrighting a novel. Joe, I've known for many years. He lives in Vegas. He never speaks event events. You know, I told him about it, and he said, you know what is that? She is kind of cool. It's on my doorstep. She'll why not cut it? And you have so many other questions. Let me come back to my second sponsor and then go into I love that you're into this stuff. 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Maybe it's a follow up after they register and what you did was anyone who had an organization of more than twenty people, imagine if you just tag them and then the Elza go. Oh out would say in that case big organizations have found that bring the whole team over creates a bonding experience and the things that you can do while you're here, imagine that. Imagine actually asked for the sorry. Imagine if you ask what their title was. And then if they just registered, you've gotta find out what you do to nurture to follow up and make sure people show up. Imagine if you follow up, then is if they say, they're this, this, the founder, they say, the only say that, they're the marketer of the company, if they say they do ad sales manager. You just put that in a field, and then every medicals out same standard Email, here's who's going to be speaking. Jay Abraham will be here. And then under that its founders. 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Like I think I've hit a, a nerve with you at this point. I'm I'm been sitting in this chat all day, and I starting to get stiff that's you know what I think it is about me. I feel like I am both exciting and also exhausting. They had of words from Andrew is like this is invigorating until it's like. Nah, I genuinely like it. This is my why that makes me cry. So I'm I'm passionate. I love you talk about love sharing it. I I've won. I won't be able to listen to this and fail in the right people to say you know what actually I'm really curious about Sam now I'd love to go. I didn't even give out the URL for Sam, I'll give it out a moment. Close out the ad for active campaign by saying, if you use my special URL in addition to helping me out, which is nice too. But frankly you care about yourself more than you care about me, and you should you're going to get you're gonna get the tried four free. One hundred percent for you. Go in and try it out. See if it's the right fit for you try all these features. See if they really are easy as I say, they are second thing you're gonna get is your second month for free. And finally, you're gonna get. No not. Finally, you're going to free one on one sessions where they will work with you to make sure you get all the utility out of marketing saw automations offer. A lot of people signed up for this stuff. Never use it. And they think some wrong with me. No. If it doesn't work out. There's something wrong with them, and they will be there to help you get it, right. And finally, if you sign up for another Email marketing company, and you don't like them just user free migration service. They will do it for free. If go to active campaign dot com slash missionary active campaign dot com slash mixed. Reggie. Much of that was scripted. Not a bit of it. I'm actually I for some. Oh, totally. I actually forget about everything I have to go back to give that really trying to thank you. I appreciate it. I kind of I used to be really crappy at these ads and I call myself out on it. I think people said, oh, Andrew always thinks that everything he does is so bad. Why can't even love themselves more? No. Now I think it's good. I Barry very good job. Thank you. Yeah. I see that makes me feel happy. That you said it makes me feel happy. 'cause you're, you're guy who knows marketing your guy who's not just like throwing this stuff out this compliments, but, I mean, I do you know, I've been doing my show eleven years now, and that's you know, I do sponsor mentions to I prefer scripting in because I'm a good. I'm a I'm, I'm good at making it seem like I'm not reading lots of practice. The challenge with me is sometimes I say things that my sponsors don't like like into. Well know that's, that's, that's the good and the bad, isn't it the policy? I think it's better to be authentic with it. I do too. And I read an article I wish I could think of where it was, which said that sponsored advertisers, are actually looking for the personality of the of excuse me of podcast looking for that, and they give examples of people doing things that I would never do like cursing, within an ad and going raunchier and realizing that is what people are looking for. It's not me. So I'm not. To do it, but they're looking for me to be authentically me and gotta do that. You know, and and, and to incorporate right naturally offices, so much more. Interesting and engaging Robin, light his content narrates ad. Yeah, it should be seamless. That's the best way, you know who does that. It's ziprecruiter. They force. I think they forced the people who read their ads to read the same thing. And so I listened to a bunch of podcast. Suddenly, we're all saying the bills are you guys allowing arby's was always, you know, it's, you know it's not smart listening to podcasts while I don't know what you know what is smart. Using ziprecruiter. I heard kind of traffic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So people sign up when it's free, I feel like a lot of people are going to go. I should give the URL. It's thus event dot com. I feel like a lot of people are going to go and say, you know what? It's free. Lemme lock in my ticket, and then I'll figure out if I'm going to go or not you do after somebody signs up to make sure they show up now the great question, so. First of all, we have. An automated text message that goes out the facts them and. Builds a little bit of excitement. Secondly, we have a ringlets voicemail message that goes out, really. Yeah. Okay. Within about ten minutes. The says, hey sorry, we missed you but saw that you signed up for salmon. Again, gets them excited said, we have a real person cool them within twenty four hours to answer any questions that they have to see if they need any help booking transport, basically, overcome any obstacles that may be in their mind about, you know, the cost of the hotel, and so on. And really kind of. On serenity unanswered questions. The may prevent them from attending. We do weekly video updates where we kind of reveal some of the entertainers, which we don't normally announce publicly a head of time, but we want to get those people who have signed up excited about who's coming to perform. So every week, does does those we have a Facebook group, which? We. Make it very easy for people to an in all of the confirmation emails, the confirmation web page. And then when we talked to them, we to all those different channels, we get them to join the Facebook group in, in that Facebook group. Again, we, there's a lot of interaction on the lot of excitement building leading up to the events. You know that's that's some examples of it's a whole big. Right. Strategic Lor getting campaign started Askar they take the exact ill. I liked it. I'm doing this now. Probably a second time or third time and I like that now on it. And as soon as I registered can I say, we'll comes up right after the, the follow page. Two, okay. Great. It immediately says, stop your ticket is not yet processed get three thousand one hundred twenty dollars worth of gifts for free. When you upgrade your you are a good market, or by the way. And I could see that there are three levels of upgraded tickets, that I can get can pay swan as a lost. One is. Was the wood when it's just there as a eating now win expecting anyone to buy that air saying that, it's, it's the anchor your charging something for your mouth. Something to make the Ninety-seven look cheaper. Exactly. I love that. You're that you're talking about how you anchor stuff? Let me see what comes in that really super high end stuff, oats four-monthly implementation webinars with oats a webinar with you, and which I do not want to do so. Nobody takes it. You're going to be happy. Yeah. Okay. I got it. I got it. And then there's also a very clear like that. It's actually super clear thing that says, no, I'll just take my free sponsor ticket. The whole things actually published on ca- job, which is a course platform. But they talked to me yesterday. I just did this whole live event with, with a bunch of software makers, were offering their stuff for free to my audience. They said that people using it for conferences. Why? I am a huge fan of Cajal be, you know, job has it went from this little kind of, you know, dinky Ville platform to, you know, I actually I used to be with infusion soft since they started. And you know, sat decide I don't feel like they made you know, the regression the they should have done and Cajal p now. Does everything that infusion soft desserts. It's they, you know, it was originally a cost, Pat from. But now it's you know, it's whatever you want it to be. I have had to marketing automation to yet has a beautiful page Bill that I love the page builder. You, can you can build any type of landing page. It will do evergreen weapons. It can do communities handles, all the Email tagging advanced. Processes for eight does beautiful upsell in, in the in the checkout process is do you want to add a ticket in this order Bamut's? It's I. Yeah. I love it. I really do love in. It is extremely reliable. So yeah, it's I just can't say enough good things about it. Well, I'm glad that I asked you about that. Yeah. And then if my credit card is in ca- job and I wanna buy something else to have to put it back in. Do you know? I do. I think so there is very example, if you will already if you will already logged in, and I made you an offer, then you would not have to. But. Generally. Yes. Oh, it's interesting. How far they've come with that platform always, you know, people don't realize job. He has more customers outside of our go to our world of kind of, you know, let's say internet Mockus, it's, it's a mainstream company. They have over one hundred employees recently. Wow. It's huge company. Didn't realize it got that big. Oh, yeah. All right. I'm trying to figure out where you're getting these attendees, is it. Well, what did I ask you? I can tell you to multiple channels. So that's, that's a number of strategic marketing campaigns. One is obviously online Facebook being the biggest buying ads on Facebook. Yes, to your Email list, or who what's what now to, to. I mean, of course to Email list, but. Also, to code traffic, and we employ a company who specializes in only that the who's, who's that it's. It's actually as an individual a name based in England. This this to there's one company in England that doesn't end. There's a company here hit code. We feel events that does it. The guy in England that does as named Sam Druce. Basically, he does it for all the big name offences in England. And then we feel events here's another great company, but, you know that's. It is hot to fill events. But they've got the process down because they specialize in that for Facebook. We also have campaigns that specifically designed to attract people here in Vegas, which is west salmon is based now. Yeah, so you know what? I did a crappy ad job for a trust. They paid me and I don't think that they got their money's worth. But I got I got a lot out of it. I signed up I got a free at non-free. I'm paying for an account. I've had an account, and it's kind of interesting, I put your site the Sam of it a comment to it. And what I see is you get a lot of back links from different Vegas events sites like best, Vegas dot com. You guys are on their listed your on whereas Evinrude hundred nights you got so who is that is that like an SEO company that puts you on all these events. Now. One that I was given as we were coming up to promoting this salmon was to list the event separately on event bright and turned out to be a great, great tip because event, bright generates his own traffic, and I would say somewhere in the region of about. Ten percent of ticket. Silence. We which is not insignificant of come from event. Right. But when you go through the pipe process, they partner with a company who forget it maybe. Cold event is a funny spelling anyway. They partner with a company that will offer this service of listing your event on like every possible relevant event in service. Now I felt like it was very very expensive for what they were offering. However, funding enough, they in, when they offer the service, they say, hey, we can list you on these eighty different sites. But they tell you what the sites. So you can do yourself. You're saying is that what you did exactly what we did? You know what here's why that's brilliant. Because I was wondering how you did it. It's not listing the event bright page. It's listing every one of these people listening, the Sam event dot com. Age me, then is a mouse finding out about SEO through a trust. You're getting all these back links from them, and that's kind of fascinating. That's brilliant. There was a targeted campaign for bakers opposite because locos don't need to worry about Arafat or hotels. We had individual campaigns for the each speaker. And couldn't up campaign for each speaker. Well, we created we created graphics for them that they could use using their image, their face on Instagram, Facebook, Instagram, stories, and so on, and we on active. Yeah. Because you know when you hand it to them on a silver platter. We, we wrote the blood for them as well. So that we could get the message inconsistent and. In a basically all they had to do was was just with send out and share it. So when it's it's very important. You cannot rely on speakers, to do that on their own devices, you have to serve it to them and make it super duper easy. You know, I found I found this one person who. Got me to promote an event, I think by I'm trying to think of the details since I'm not mentioning that name. I can I can do my best with memory. He bought ads on my site said, Andrew, I'm going to have you come out. But I, I also need to buy like access to MLS or something, something like that, or may something like that, that he's not paying me to speak, but he's getting me to promote it, and then I as a result was emailing my list or something. It was it was kind of clever that way. Interesting. And I, I always do speaker dinners at events where by the other speakers out, which is fantastic for me do your own speaker event. Sometimes. Yeah. We thought we were just discussing that at the moment to see what we were going to that challenge with Sam is it is a very complex event logistically to put on, you know, it's it m-. Imagine a you go out to for a night to show you know, to our shot. Well, this is a two day shows are logistic is extremely complex and in- possibly. I'm just I'm absolutely spent at the end of every night. So we would just talking about whether we should do something, you know separately. Another time is because I want to be able to give my best. See this is why I do it, what I do then is I realized that a lot of events can't speaker events and do everything else. And then you might also have like you're VIP guests who are you at their thing you can do. So what I do is I look through the speaker list and Megan on our team is fantastic. Putting together partnerships, which she would do is she would go. Through the list. Find the people who we should get to know. And then the people who everyone wants to get to know start inviting them to a dinner of like seven or eight people's. Right. It's fantastic. And then we might know a couple of people, and then we start off with them. And then we build around that. That's what we do at advance and it's fairly inexpensive across, like fifteen hundred bucks did put on a nice dinner for people. The challenges that it doesn't directly lead to any any business for us. It's just nice goodwill. I feel like I've got enough goodwill in my life. Goodwill. My wife last semester. I got enough friends. I don't even need more of that. All right. I see. I'm seeing how this works. What else you are starting to say that there was something else that you're doing to bring people in? When you what's another event like yours. That's in Vegas, I would just plop them into age refs, and see what are they doing while one? Interesting thing we do is, is geofencing. Are you familiar with that you're buying ads for people who are in the area on Facebook? Yes. So, so what we because makers is such a big event city we look at wall related events that are happening in not just in Vegas. She any other city, but just happens. Lamar. Excuse me. We look. One events are related. And then we. We race simple ads that they have can be just anything is the only pump of the ad is to capture those people that are in a specific. So what we can do is, we can say to Facebook only show, this ad to people that are at the last Vegas convention center on these dates during these times knowing that, that audience is also potentially arrowed Jens the, the ad is not for Arab and the ad is for just something that will capture their attention because what we, then do is we then go back and retarget those people if they click an ad got it as soon as they click the add now, you know, they're kind of interested in the team at than you retargeted, but if someone who goes to another conference and other events and other show, a good target for saying, hey, you know what I'm in Vegas anyway. I'll go to another two day event here, and it's not it's not the, the we've talked about events that happened in the year leading up to Sam know know if they've come maybe. The three months before they might come back because they shown that they're only targeting relevant events. These uplift the well the trio. When we did recently was social media markets in weld in San Diego. Oh, god. It got its between conversion click funnels in all of that was a big events that would encompass the type of people that would come to Sam. I was thinking that it all had to do with the Vegas. Got it in that gives nothing. It's not right. Guess is relevant. It's the people doesn't matter. Whether the event is it just so happens that aloft the events are in bay NF. They're doing right. Social media. Marketing world is great now, plugging in social media marketing world. Let's see where they get most of their traffic, this would be kind of interesting because that guy is so nice and calm like you. It's chrome Rochas animal. What they've done this really, really money, but doesn't make seem like Mike styles since I. It's so impressive he's like on top of every fricken detail. I actually so one of the things that I did at his conference was, I got an eye sweet. I invited some of the speakers over invited people who did his marketing, I said he seems like someone who was on it. Because guests he's on every detail with me. Not just us and saying, you're the best take care of it. He wants to know every part of it, he wants to met you don't like you'd probably like that. With the show, aren't you? Yeah. So, what's, what's an example of woods? What's the presenter, who you think is, is like the most interesting, who's gonna make you actually have to end this? I've got to go back home. I'm always late now lately for the kids. Who who I'm most interested in, let's. This is a great Christian. I. I really enjoy watching blend moss our he spoke. Oh, the first Sam and he invited him back again. He's the he's one of these actors that's been in light every blockbuster movie in the last ten years. It's crazy. How many he's in, you know, he was the president's chief of security in twenty four. He was in transform as I mean, just supergirl night, so many, and he's just such a an interesting character. And he says how he in on screen. He has this serious persona usually military type person, but on stage, you ready. See a different side of him and just, just a brilliant. Brilliant, presented us. So I, I really enjoy watching him. We also have someone who I think is on the website, but. A young guy from was born in South America with no arms and no legs. I saw that gave atoms. His name is an incredible inspirational story in this. We have we have some very different types of presented. His to there's a guy who's a friend of mine who was created. Characters who he present some one of his characters is. A guy who's who's essentially a prisoner. And so, during this during this presentation that Sam, the stage is going to open in you'll see a prison cell set on stage and he, he will act, the paw of a prisoner, but he's gonna talk about in a how most of us are prisoners in Iran minds and how that, you know, how that can stop us from taking that for him setting up a jail cell on your staff. Yeah, that's intense because that's heavy that could make the floor fall. Not. All right. It's a it's a set size. Okay. It will like jail cell. Get you not actually putting them. Ridgeville. So, but now I've actually since we're talking about Michael steles ner. I was doing research. See, like where's he getting his links? Now. What did you find them in create? Here's here's one that I that I wouldn't have thought would do much. Okay. There's a social fans with z dot com has seven of the best social media conferences. I didn't either that was kind of interesting that was sending him traffic. And then the other one is I'm just looking at the weird things that I wouldn't have expected. That's kind of weird is influences David, in preventive, you know, he did three takeaways from, from a meeting with Pat, Flynn of snap smart, passive income, and it's about, like, what's happening at social media marketing world and got seventy three shares on that which is not huge. But it was it was a good influence of is, is getting traction. They are. Yup. See I'm learning this from H. I. N. F. L. U. E. N. C. I V. Yeah. In fact that publishing an article for us. Next week they are. All right. So you know about this stuff. This is fascinating to me. I can day away, but we I was looking up social media marketing world dot com. That's maybe that's not their URL because it looks like that you are L is for social media examiner, but oh and is the URL. Oh, so they're actually pointing to the wrong one social examiner. Yeah. Examiner and then on their he's got a sub folder, probably okay. So exactly got an influence needs to know that he should change that link is he's linking to denting. Got it. All right. So much more for me to learn on this over here. Let's see a link to the conference. All right. I can spend for Franken ever on this. All right. For anyone who wants to go. Sign up for them to go. Sign up is the Sam event dot com. I liked the called it Sam because it feels more friendly less business. He also don't have like the Sam com dot com. Right. When looking for you death, actually winced when I did that. And you're absolutely right. But, you know, we always refer to as the, you know, the domain name, aside, which is the event, we call it the SAM's show because, you know, it really is. You know, we talk about show business will Sam his show. Yeah. I've never seen to business people spent so much time on their sales page promoting the fact that it's entertainment. There's like the, the red curtain on the side. There's world class entertainment. I actually don't there if I look here for that because he advertising marketing, right? This page. Incidentally, I'm I'm happy to shed that this page converts at twenty five point two percent to cold traffic, really, which is. Which is we. See this is how you get me. I love it. I love this stuff gets me excited. The company, I love copywriting. I can see you're in your element. I can see it. It's fun. You know. And I think the thing is it is it is genuinely different. You know, we're trying to create a blue ocean. There. You know, I want I want that book on your on your desk. I voted because, you know this I know I bought it with me today, because I wanted to specifically refer jet blue ocean strategy is, is huge. I mean when I read about so do Soleil in that book. That is genius. I mean it they reinvented the circus. Yeah. Fuck is high end. Why are we not linking fricken books in every one of these episode pages? And then we do affiliate revenue. And then we bring it. I should ask every guest what book do you much about that? Like twenty minutes not doing it. Like if you look at the page that we're going to have for Andrew lock, it's going to be your interview, and underneath, it's going to be the transcript and links to the sponsors underneath that we should always have the, the books that people mentioned. And then I bring up, I wonder if that's Tim Ferriss deal. I wonder if what he does do that. Now he does. And he's the civically will ask people like what things would you buy front or five bucks or fifty dollars? I forget what it is. I wonder if that's partially like an affiliate marketing play where he's linking back. And then he has this list of us. It is small revenue, but he has schedule in. Right. People will go in what did I just interviewed someone who said the factors people love, resources, just its toes or Mason losses in you might those recommended? They try right now. What's the nicest thing that you bought for under for under five dollars? What's. Five bucks missing. Michael, we need to put a link. I'm talking to Michael development. We need something underneath that. So see. It's kinda hard. I wonder if I should've primed you, it's at well, yeah, I definitely come up with things if I'd known in advance. Does he because actually I did. I I looked a post. It was actually nice. I'll tell you what I bought that was nice. This one every time I have a battery pack for my ipad and my iphone. I forget to charge, the frigging thing I found this tiny battery pack from anchor that afflicted little thing, and then you get into the wall, it charges your stuff. But then if we'd take it out of the wall, it's a fine. I five he's got a lot of charging it could charge up my iphone two and a half times. It's fantastic. Now you can have to put the link to that, right? And then we get a affiliate revenue from that. I did. I read I read the post that someone had written actually that was on the exactly that it was a great bog ins and useful things on the five dollars, and I actually ended up buying three or four of them. That's what you do. See this is where you're getting me fired up without marketing, dude, this is this is what I like about shooting. I never did this at the end of an interview I'd like to get into people's personal lives, not into their marketing techniques gonna get fight about mind. And then the other thing we should do is I should ask you what were you life? And then ask the people who work on that Twitter account say, hey, look Andrew luck said he'd loves your software and then linked them to that. And then have them say thank you, Andrew lock for we actually tried that I take about we tried it. Everyone likes the same five things, and it's always slack. I go, I can't roll my eyes Franken slack, and. I was gonna die on this podcast. He's meeting because he's coughing up so much. All right. And meanwhile, you're going to die on the podcast, I'm gonna die after the podcast. My wife has been calling me because I am running late. I was supposed to pick up the kids at six. It's now six ten. I'm never late for that. But she's, she's helping me out. Hope hope I'm never laid, I, I usually will prefer to give up anything just to go spend time with them Andrews, actually, don't coughing. Actually just keeping a going because you're coughing so much. I thought the whole idea Vegas was no allergies because it's so dry like there's no no pollen in the air. Nothing. It's a little better. But not that much. All right. We, we gotta go. We gotta go because one of us is going to die. It's me because I late in Libya's been covering for me twice today. All right. I'm going to tell people one last time if you're interested, we've got to get this interview, edited and published fast. It's the Sam event dot com. Goes. Sponsors for making this interview happen. And for being okay. With me saying, whatever I feel like with the ads. The first is the company that will host your website, right? It's called hostgator. Check him out of host gator dot com slash mixer. G by the way, I actually said. Oh, hostgator. No one's gonna remember hostgator. I went to Amazon. I bought an alligator hat, and I literally word in an ad and I said, great isn't this wonderful? And the guy last me said, actually, it's a crocodile, and it's not our color either. But he laughed at how that's putting crocodile but it's hostgator dot com slash mixer de. So thankfully, they've been very good with me, going off script and the second sponsor is a company that will do Email marketing, right? It's called active campaign dot com slash mix. Would you would you run and go get? What is that? Oh car. That's the Logan. I like it. Yeah. Everything about is show business, exactly the point. Thanks for nuts in. All right. Thanks so much for doing it. Thank you, everyone. Oh, you know what? I'm going to close out with one of the suggestion no kagins podcast, the no Kagan project or whatever people need to put that into their I tunes. I've been listening to this so much, especially if you're into copywriting like we've just been talking about Neville, Madora, just type in Neville, or scroll around until you find Neville is such an interesting copywriter. He is so interesting, grain podcast, episode there, this is not like anything other than I just fricken. I love no kagins podcast so much. I send them frigging text messages that I never sent long text messages. I sent him text messages to go on for paragraphs and then it always ends with. No, I'm sorry. I promised myself, I wouldn't blow up your chat and thankfully, he's, he's okay with me blowing up his chat, endlessly. And then he sends me links to stuff like is Straub accomplishment or something. Is that the one? Yeah, that's it. No Kagan presents exactly the green one really good. It's a great podcast because Noah started off saying, I'm going to dominate by numbers, unless you've sabbatical Madora. That's the latest one. I didn't listen to that one. That's what reminded me. That's a that's a the latest one. I haven't heard it the last one with Neville was really good. I don't know about the latest one. I guess it's good. I liked it. He just realized you know what? This is not a good way to for me to increase my stats. It's not a good way for me to do much of anything by way of getting people click links. So screw it. I'm just gonna talk and I liked it. He's just gone. The just talking Noah is good. All right. I gotta run at Andrew, thanks so much for staying up. Thank you. It's been fun. It's been an hour and a half. I appreciate it by man by see it.

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Middlekauff - Luck Retirement Misconceptions; Bet On Ballard; AFC Ripple Effect; Weekend Thoughts; Middlekauff Mailbag

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Middlekauff - Luck Retirement Misconceptions; Bet On Ballard; AFC Ripple Effect; Weekend Thoughts; Middlekauff Mailbag

"<music> what's up folks is chris broussard and i am here with my partner rob parker and together. We are the odd couple that's right. Join kristen me every we days we give you the hottest spicy sports takes that you won't hear anywhere else and for the record rob parker is the one i'm the more reasonable award what so listen to the couple with chris bruce hart and raf hawker on apple podcast four or the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts what is going on everybody monday. I'm recording this in the middle of the day what i repeat what what a weekend. They're really just for the majority of this show. I would imagine if you're listening to show you listen to a lot of other shows. I mean there's there's really only one big topic. I'm going to try to hit it on every angle possible from andrews from the league's to the players from the media media just a bombshell story. We don't get you know that often. It's it's all timer in my mind in my thirty four for years of life and probably don't even count like the firsthand last twenty five years of watching sports. It's it's one of the crazier but i think when you dive in and i will. It's not maybe as crazy as we think. We'll touch on chris ballard who i'm a big fan of. I don't know him personally like colin. You know i know a lot of people that know him well gotree to nagy and beach and all those guys they swear by them and just watching the work he's done so we'll dive into him. I mean there might not be a better. I i tasked was saving. The franchise is probably too strong because they're already pretty equipped. I mean this isn't like the arizona cardinals roster then the ripple effect effect for the players. You know you see all social media. Just is this the start of a trend. Uh no not many guys at twenty nine years old in the n._f._l. Have one hundred million dollars the bank so i would say no on that one and then we'll just kind of go around to some different things i saw this weekend some preseason stuff the miami florida game god i love i love of the s._e._c. and i include in the miami florida state and clemson include those teams s._e._c. because the a._c._c. god awful and i know miami and florida state technically weekly aren't even good but they have the potential to be good and at clemson's rolling but god. I love southern football. I mean it's something we just don't have out here. We have the n._f._l. When i see out here's some of you guys live live south. I'm jealous. I really am now. We take our pro football. I live in the bay area and a lot of people think oh he just a bunch of hippy liberals. I'll tell you this football is a king out here and rightfully so the forty niners won five championships not i'm all in my lifetime but in a lot of people's lifetimes living living out here in the raiders won a couple now. They want a couple l. a. too but it was just football is very very big on the west coast but it's all pro football so i'm jealous. What's that how big college football is and then. We'll just go around some of the other things i saw but i want to start with this. I think the the hardest person to judge in life life not personally but professionally is someone not driven by money and i'm sure a lot of you guys are wherever you are and whatever business you are in charge of hiring. Maybe in charge of acquisitions. It's a guy like me. If you're going to do a deal with me. It's pretty black and white. If i asked for a number and you hit that number we'll do a deal you know at this point in my life. I'm pretty driven by money. It's not the end all of my life but it does dictate a lot of decisions now. I think we all aspire and i used to be not driven by it at all. It's just i guess the more money you make. It's just kind of a natural probably maturation of anyone in any business with capitalism and competitor. It's not even necessarily about the number. It's just more about competing just always trying to get a bigger number. I mean that's just it's the way the world works and a lot of people in a lot of professions are money driven but there are few especially at the highest level of their field that aren't driven driven by cash into me. They are always the biggest wildcard in any business because just because you offer them a number that in your mind to do whatever never or your company's paying him or whatever it doesn't matter to them. They are not there for that. Paycheck however big or however small that number maybe and i've met. I don't have as many those people in my life. I tend my friends tend to be a little more capitalistic capitalistic a word just younger driven ambitious. I mean i was the only guy not making any money out of most of my friends in my twenties. A lot of them work in finance just working attack attack making a lotta cash. I was making nothing. I would say early in my career when i got into football unlike a lot of young players scott we don't make any money and then once you get in radio you don't make that much money starting off either so and that's i guess the natural growth of and most people in their professional life. That's the one thing unique about pro wpro sports. Even coaches like as you saw on hard knocks a couple of weeks ago. Sean mcvay started off making like ten grand just basically being the coffee guy for gruden gruden called on the the bis boy he rose up the ranks way quicker the most but it took him a little bit took them a lot quicker than most but so big time you know if you start goldman sachs you're not the president day one usually takes you awhile twenty years to become a partner whatever well andrew lock there are few football players and i would say there are few athletes athletes anymore like lebron james. I got news for you. Drew my money right to me. Michael jordan never was driven by money. Now it's not to say he didn't like money but he was driven to one win. That's my favorite athletes by a mile or michael jordan and tiger woods and tom brady you might be able to throw him in there too i think he would you could put him him in lumped into this category they're number. One priority in life was to win the money and all that stuff came but their number one goal was to win. You see antonio brown antonio brown's into making money lebron james. He's into making the whole the clutch guys they they love their cash carmelo. I mean his his career is life. His defined by money criticize n._b._a. Players just money money money money money. That's that's why michael jordan ran circles around everyone. He was there to one his number. One priority was to win and i saw it firsthand several years ago when patrick willis retired. I think there are some similarities with the andrew luck. Petals didn't play football for the cash now. He ended up making a lot of cash but when you watch patrick willis play in the peak of his powers from like oh seven to two thousand thirteen before giving up maybe two thousand twelve one of the great ass-kicker. I've ever seen he didn't you don't you're not that passionate. You don't play that fast and physical and violent if it's about the cash and you've seen a lot a lot of hall of famers the the n._f._l. Is defined by a lot of people and it shows like how crazy they are that they're number. One goal is not cash like lawrence. Taylor wasn't playing for the cash. Cash ray lewis nattery. Were not playing for the cash now. A lot of cash came and i think with andrew luck and you saw this with willis when he just stepped away and again also injured. Andrew luck was great wildcard for many factors one. I never thought he was driven. By the money now he grew up wealthier highly educated went to stanford. I mean the guy's genus but when you watch them play football and when you watch the guy with lacerated kidneys maybe it was a spleen torn shoulders messed up angles just battle and battle and battle when you're already super-rich when you have a million options like that guy is somewhat of a wild card and he like to me there's zero questioning his toughness service because you don't play through all those injuries over the countless amount of years that he played through those injuries as he said after the game on saturday night i four straight years of dealing with something serious borderline career ending injuries at different points in time and he's uniquely suited because he has options and not options. He's the smartest guy in the room every room. He walks into like for example again. We all do different things. I know for me personally. I don't have that mini options. I could scout football players. I can talk pretty well for living pretty opinionated. If my vocal chords ever went like joe bucks talked about. I've i thought about getting hair plugs when he got the hair plugs in messed up his vocal chords. He didn't know if he was going to continue to be broadcast. I be screwed like i'm not an engineer. Not that smart just went to a couple of state schools in california andrew lock andrew luck. I have one hundred million dollars in capital. Go start my own business. Start my architecture engineering firm it just dominate the world because he did not retire because quote unquote like you said the love of the game just left the love of the game left for reason. His body was shop. I'm sure many people saw the tweet from warren sharp that his first three years he was hit more times than any player in the leak in despite him being a mammoth human being if you're not driven by the money and obviously he gave away fifty eight million dollars that he would have made the next two years under this contract if you're driven by the money i don't care who you are part of the reason why most people keep playing especially when you have that type numbers coming to you. That's a lot of money to give up. I don't give a shit how much money you have in the bank fifty fifty eight million dollars this year. Next year is a lot of cash a ton of cash. I don't care if you're warren buffett or your andrew. Lock or your mere you. That's a lot of money you. You can't be driven by the money if you tap tap outs the wrong word if you just quit retire powerful you want to consider it because i think it's fair to say like some people are gonna say he quit. Some people are gonna say retired. Whatever i just think he got to the point and it wasn't his fault. I sit on my podcast. They were middlekauff. It's a sports tragedy ragging. That's what this is a sport's tragedy. There was out of his control. He was given the worst general manager. You could argue in the history history of the n._f._l. I had a front for this guy for for a year and a half. When i worked in philly we laughed when ryan got the job internally anyone that worked around donald shell-shocked now. I could never imagine in a million years and i thought it'd be bad would be this bad. I mean almost got andrew lucked killed an ultimately forced him to be able to take it anymore and i think one thing is being lost in. All of this people are acting like he was their starting quarterback back week one. I read it in 'em q._b. And if you watched him talk he was not going to be able to play week. One hour rewrote that was more than likely he was going to start the season on injured reserve in potentially miss minimum half the season. There was a chance his whole season was done for whatever this injury is to his lower leg caf achilles who knows he is messed up and if just for as crazy as it was. It's one of those things that that is is crazy. When you get an update like that these just nuts right but then once you read in the details it's not that crazy but if you just would have shown up in two thousand sixteen stain and someone just told you donald trump just became the president you would hit the floor but then when you dive into the details you'd be like well. You know. Democrats have been in power now for eight years. He ran against probably the worst candidate we've ever seen in hillary clinton kind of like okay. I get it still nuts like this stories still nuts but once you get the deal you know the details of everything you know. Hillary didn't campaign in certain states donald one that were swing states. Okay got it makes some sense. This isn't political rant but that's just a fact like speed. That's to me the last several years crazing nap and donald trump became president but then you want when you really contracts that back the emotion out of it. It was understandable just like dislike. It was crazy when you see that adam schefter says it it andrew retired. I mean i was sitting there. Having a cocktail watch miami florida and i was i think i was actually watching a youtube something on my phone and it came across and i thought like i was losing my mind. It didn't make sense and then you saw that it was real tweet but then after the game name when you saw him speak and then you saw ballard and these guys speak it started to make more sense. You realize how much pain was in and again. He has not been the practice basically since april. His leg is messed up. He would not have started. We want more than likely would not have started to because he would have been on injured reserve now. He might have come back. You might not have but i think he was in the case. You know some of these guys. They store their a._c._l. Three times it's basically what he's done. He's ruined both shoulders or at least i don't know if it's bhosle social but the one shoulder multiple times he clearly has this ankle thing that he can't play on. He's messed up. He's had lacerated this and that he's been killed. It's not just like to me. This is more like yao-ming and i think it kind of got lost on social media this guy just quit retired. However you wanna put it and people are talking. The reality with his body shot is his body shot. You know like y'all main just had to retire at thirty nasa's done brandon. Roy knee was shot. Shot happens a lot in basketball where prominent prominent good players. There's just done because their body gives out. This one's a little different because he didn't have a degenerate anything. When he came out of college it was beaten out of him once he got to the pros by the ineptness of the leadership if he would have been drafted afternoon with chris bowers g._m. He's probably i mean in the peak of his powers right now. Who maybe a super bowl who knows but you are so dependent ended one thing for as much money. These guys make in pro sports the major difference between their jobs and again. It's why as they said. Madman is why you get paid you know part of the deal why you make so much money but they don't get to pick their destination so usually when you're the best player in a draft you're going to the worst i team the worst like it's worked out pretty well for goffin wentz but when you take a step back and go to work from well to organizations traded up to get those guys is philly one of the best organization the last twenty years and then the rams somehow found this like you know put net potential next bill walsh but for a minute it looks like jerry office screwed with jeff fisher. Luckily they got you know they found mcveigh. Were philly just got carson wentz if he's going to be good he's in a pretty good situation situation where you see a lotta guys like is kinda. Mirny good situation hell no was mr bisky and a good situation hell no then nagy showed up and potentially might save save his career. The shawn watson integrate situation. You could say well kinda. He's got really good players but he also has the worst offense. Maybe in the league beside the cardinals in his head coach can't get along with any g._m. So yeah he's got problems on his hands. Look was in a situation that was crazy and all these guys and it just killed. I mean physically just killed ruined his body and i think one thing that is consistently being lost is this guy is into right now. He's not like people like he should have given them a heads up the dead. He'd been hurting. They traded for jacoby perset like they have reinforcements well. We didn't know we needed cash on him. They they have some cash on him now. Not ideally you'd love to have. I don't know the net another andrew lock or jimmy garoppolo jacobin percents about as good as you can do. They traded you. You know want to grigson swing and misses two years ago for this guy member. Jacoby were sets player. The bill parcells was like in love with toll belgium. Belgium getting drafted in the third turnaround pretty high level guy. It's about as good of a backup that you can have. I don't know what would it change of andrew luck what a retired in the spring but he wouldn't retire could. He said he wasn't really thinking about it until this leg injury just won't go away. We're clearly maybe they told them like. Maybe you're about to rip and he's like your tone. He's about to rip. This is the theory of mind what if some what if the doctor doctor said listen andrew you go out there and play and it's like richard. Sherman said this a couple years ago when the doctor said listen. You're gonna have this achilles pain. It's eventually going to rip on andrews thinking you're telling me i'm just gonna play. Maybe a game maybe five games the thing's gonna rip and then i'm gonna. I'm gonna have torn achilles. Start a rehab all again. After i've done this like three times hell no. I cannot do it and again when you're not driven by money and then you already have a ton of money and you're the smartest guy in in the room. I'm telling you i crazy is this story was and i think we all agree. When we all got the ticker either we saw it on the ticker or got the update on our phone. It was insane after twenty four hour forty eight hour you take a step back. You start looking at the details. It's not as crazy as you think. My name is danny shapiro. I'm the host of family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from us secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Family secrets is more than just a podcast audio experience. 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I mean is probably one of the top ten bad asses on our like in america right now like legitimate bad ass and he has this thing on youtube. If you just type in enjoy a good and it's kind of like a motivational rant but it is i mean it makes a lotta sense and just he would talk about when you know the seals would come back and say well. We thought that there wouldn't be armored. Guards there there are in his response would always be good. Hey you know we are our humvee. We blew a tire. His response would always be good. You can say whatever you want it to him and his response would always be good. I would say that most motivational speakers like anyone that you watch worth their salt will always say the best thing in life that can ever happen when you is fail like fail fail more because you learn way more from failure and tough times. Did you ever do from good times cbs because the reality is people can always say be you know be humble in victory when you're making the most money like say a lot of people are not able to do that. I mean that's just that's the reality and the reality is when most people get a curveball in life. Whether that's what chris ballard just kinda got handed to them. Whether it's at your job something goes wrong. Economy turned mafia freak week when the reality is i've been fired twice in my life and i can't relate to chris ballard losing andrew luck. I can't relate to the navy seals but i can just relate my own own personal experience. The two times i've quote unquote failed or failure was handed my way and i thought what am i gonna do best thing that ever happened in my in my life. Professionally twice changed my life both times. Four dramatically better now sucked initially just like any time. Um you get bad news. It really sucks. I think maybe the older more mature certain type personality is definitely can handle it better but i'm telling you this is the best thing potentially and when i say best thing that ever happened chris ballard want you never wanna lose. Andrew lock chris ballard signed up for angela. That's what you want but chris ballard already earned thing. I'm a street credit. Chris ballard earned because i thought i think a lot of people including myself. The hype was so strong. We talked about chris bauer the g._m. Like andrew lock the prospect. Everyone's been blowing this guy for ten years the next g._m. Inversely but everyone loved them and i was like okay we we've heard heard this song and dance before and then he gets to indy and the first time he has a chance to hire a coat the do the do accept the job and then last minute flips in chris ballard not only perfectly couldn't have handled it any better as he's putting together a really good roster and he goes and hires frank who even last year they started on five. They made the playoffs now clearly they lose. They lost their most important player. No one will dispute that but chris ballard in just the eye of the storm with josh mcdaniels where i think i handle failure pretty well. I probably would have snapped. Most people listening probably would've snapped. I mean we would have been and maybe he did. I mean so angry but his ability to hold it together. Go on another search and then find a really good coach and then make the playoffs. The next year is absolutely remarkable and i'm like i've already seen this guy be handed a shift sandwich and come out with a chicken salad like we just saw that happened last last year. Now this i would say is much more difficult because it's it's easier to find a coach a just a just a functional offense of coach and it would would be superstar quarterback but i think if anyone can figure it out one. He already like i said earlier. He has jacoby already. They're who they feel confident of. Who who he traded for a couple of years ago. I saw frank today. Say i'm so glad that he acquired this guy before i even got here because where would we be if we just had a couple undrafted free agents but i truly believe the best people. Their careers are defined when she starts going wrong. That's when they kind of rise above it and and when i said earlier that lebron was driven by money he wasn't always that way for a long period of time he was driven to win and i think that helped drive him to become one of the best players ever rugs never forget he was getting mocked and laughed at from being a choke artist and he just kept he kept driving driving finally got there and he finally did now. He got to the point where he's just like whatever i've won three. I'm never going to get sick so it's all about the money which that's his aug. Were chris ballard now to me has by four the most a game because one i think he's already put together a pretty good team so jacoby might be able to win eight nine games with this team. They go nine and seven this year. Would you kobe set when andrew andrew luck retired two weeks before the season now again. He wasn't gonna play anyway just but given the kind of the nuclear bomb that went off of just that retirement and how that impact the locker room that would be incredible it would speak to the locker. Chris ballard is built and then it would also speak to he was able to pit when josh mcgann of left him at the altar and find a credible coach thanks to coach his team in three. He's loaded with assets. He's got a ton of draft picks. I think he has to second rounders this year on a first rounder and if he needs to and this is a year where there's going to be quarterbacks backs in the draft if jacoby is not that guy. Let's go seventy nine. It's clear jacoby is not going to be good enough to be a starting quarterback. He can get aggressive and go up and get a quarterback because when you look around the n._f._l. N._f._l. Teams have young quarterbacks right now so and some of them are gonna be terrible like i got news for you. The arizona cardinals are gonna stink the. They're not going to be very very good the buffalo bills or the new york jets. One of those teams potentially could be drafting in the top five. I don't think so but you never know those. Teams are drafting quarterback so you just you just look around the league. The majority of teams have a guy have a guy so he can get aggressive as he has if he has to but i'm betting on tom because i've seen him in just a disastrous situation handle himself with dignity class and then execute like. I don't even put that much stock into the way he conducted himself like i. I admire that but at the end of the day that doesn't matter if you don't execute he executed so why would i not think like yeah. There's only one andrew luck alive. I i mean there's been one andrew lock. Maybe since elway peyton manning and andrew lock so is he going to find the next angela probably not but can't get a high level starter in the draft or somehow through retraite why not he's proven to be one of the gentleman's in the league and i've seen him. A lot of gm's have just handled had success most of their time like john schneider. They've been pretty successful for the last eight years like his worst year. As he said two years ago we went nine and seven and it felt like we went to and fourteen howie. Roseman is a great example example. He became a g._m. At the time the youngest general manager in the league and the michael vick andy didn't work out and he gets like go chips comes in these hired. The wrong got chips a nutjob how he gets demoted gets demoted thrown to the other side of the room when it's clear how is the more capable one than ship looking back honestly honestly not even close and how he would tell you right now. He's way better off for that experience. Think about that now again. They lucky they were able to go up and get once but i do think the ballard if there is that situation herbert to they were going to quarterbacks and there's some kid at utah state is getting a lot of hide love from georgia. We'll see how good he is like. They're gonna be guys if they even need one because they do have a guy. That's going to get a year chance and i saw that orlovsky dan alaska. You had a great tweet that a coach told him a long time ago and i think this speaks for most guys in the league beside like twenty superstars quarterbacks backs and then a couple of light. Julio jones khalil mack type players. A lot of times in the majority of players in this league are not stores the role players or they're just dysfunctional starters but you're going to get one opportunity. You're gonna get one big opportunity like you're going to get a chance to start a regular season game. I'm not i'm not even talking. Quarterbacks your backs but you better be ready to throw a haymaker when you get your chance. Throw a haymaker and i think he has a guy. That's kinda uniquely equipped in jacoby. That's played played a lot that has experienced has been in the franchise lots of they're not trading for some random guy two weeks before who just ready to throw hey make we're gonna see this guy's best. Now may turn out his best. S. might not be good enough but it may turn out what you can win with this guy. Maybe he's kirk cousins. Who knows i'm not comfortable even trying to guess what he is kind of like them kind of don't but i haven't really watched them that much. This year will be able to judge and chris bowden will be able to judge them and if he's not the guy till and this is a guy that he spoke spoke with his head coach to the team today. I'm just betting on. I'm handling it because i've seen them heavily situations before he's clearly high guy and he's built a good team a well rounded team so i actually liked the colts. Hi everybody it's colin coward here host of the ever-growing heard podcast. I'm in the honesty business. You know that i don't feel i tell you what you want to hear but what you need we talk every day about the sports stories. You have opinions on the heard podcast network. Now is a one stop shop for all sports. Fan listened to the her that h. A. r. d. with colin coward on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts okay let's get into the ripple effects that this decision is ultimately going to have on the league and specifically the a._f._c. because when we looked at football post brady right 'cause brady's forty two years old and big thirty seven rivers is going to be thirty eight this year. These guys are getting up in age right. Obviously russell wilson cam other division a lot of younger players from goth to went back to jimmy. Other guys are in the other division so when you look at the a._f._c. i think most of us thought that once brady and belichick maybe they never we're going to quit but eventually i got news for you. They're not going to be there forever right. They're not just on like a lifetime scholarship of brady. He's forty two years old so he eventually and i love tom. Brady again. I'm going to include him now. Moving forward award in my jordan brady and tiger they play to win. That was their number one goal. They had other goals. They like tigers women's on these guys. It's like their money. They like jordan legs gambling that other things they like but their number one goal was way but eventually his number one goal is going to be. He's just too old to keep playing now ballot check act who knows i mean. He is sixty seven years old. He's gonna coach lease seventy five probably not but yeah. I guess you never know but let's just assume that dynasty i wouldn't i wouldn't say comes to an end because belgium could keep coaching for seven or eight more years but brady will be done and they will have to transition so you would've said that god the colts our position if vandrewala can stay healthy to be dominant to be. It'd be them in the chiefs. White would be the two teams. You're like mahomes and andy i mean he they have to be the biggest winner yesterday in this whole entire ordeal that they got rid of andrew luck because ballard you know the chiefs are really well run their team. I'm just watching them against the niners the other night they would have destroyed them. If it was a real game they're going to be really really good this year like really good and they're going to be good for a while <hes> they. They have a guy i got. I got news for you. The high mahomes might even be understated. He is the truth but they don't have to go through anymore and brady eventually actually is going to be gone so when you look at the a._f._c. you go. I like sam darnold lot and i like adam gays. They got joe douglas but it's gonna take them a little time. <hes> josh allen on route for the guy sean mcdermott is coach again solid team but are they keep anyone up at night. I would say the big curveball in this whole group would be baker and freddie and i think baker and the team is going to be good but freddie. I got news for you. He's a major question mark right now. I got no clue if he's good or not right now. I tend to lean. It's going to be a challenge for him. <hes> and like i said is thirty seven years old so that's going to they're going to eventually have have to pivot to a new quarterback and just hard. I don't take the ravens that seriously when you look at the a._f._c. south i the titans don't even know if mariota's good falls is an the older player. He's like a really really expensive. Bridge could be good for a couple years but he's not like some dynasty. There nick foles deshaun watson. I would throw him in the mix. His problem is their offensive line's terrible. They do not have a general manager. Say that out loud. They don't don't have a general manager then you look at the a._f._c. west you go while again. Rivers going to be thirty eight this year. Mahomes is the lead dog right now on the pack with with with luck on of everyone under thirty <hes> derek hard gruden major question mark <hes>. This is a big year for them. Do they technically could resurrect like they could be group. Next year that i go you gotta take them seriously. They still have a long way go. Their defense is atrocious. They don't really have playmakers. Their pass rushes awful. Antonio brown is is a major wildcard. He could dominate where you can quit at any moment then you look at the broncos you go well. Fangio's defense coach even is going to be good but flacco is i mean joe flacco flaco and of course he is. I mean that's literally his name but he's not that great of a player and the guy they drafted in the first round. Their head coaches even admitted he's a mile away from doing anything anything in the charters don't really have a backup plan behind philip rivers so to me the a._f._c. the ripple effect on actual the the teams there in the road. A post brady just opened up the red sea led by mahomes andy like to me now. They're in the driver's seat if they do this right the not just win but kind of consistently gently win. Colonists called them the next dynasty. I it's hard to tell because you never know you need other players like it is as we've seen with brady the in ballot check they have been dependent on the ataman hall of fame competitor gronk hall of famer mccourty just a stud <hes> <hes> they've found very good front seven guys over the years they have an unreal leader slash special team or to create a long-term dynasty and i always say this about especially especially the patriots post two thousand ten ish they have a core group guys they kept them together so that that will be key for mahomes to do that and it looked like that's what was so crazy about the culture like god they. They got kind of a young core quit. Nelson looks like he's going to be a star t._y. Hilton's astrud behalf lock if they'd get darius leonard they. We're going to have a core of four or five super high character tough guys. I know that corner they draft from temple looks to be really good that all went out the window. That's that's the sad part the other the thing. I see a lot of people talking about that. This will lead to more players retiring and i'm just gonna call bullshit on that because like like i talked about earlier. This was a unique situation. This is a player that might be the smartest player in the league that includes coaches that includes players that includes contract negotiators. This guy is brilliant brilliant as he told people in his interviews at the combine. His hobby was reading as someone that wished he could read more. I have to do audio books. I just for whatever reason my a._d._d. I can't sit there for a book long and that's character fly. I wish that was better at bet. I'll be the first to tell you you become an pride. Most people listening read no this. You become a lot smarter when you read. I it's it's a pretty it's not a complicated located formula like oh. How do you gain intelligence. Just read read read read. You will become smart. Andrew lock has been rattling off books probably since he can walk so the guy's brilliant but here's the the main kicker here is he has ninety seven million dollars right now and he's twenty nine ninety seven million million dollars. This is not the n._b._a. These big contracts do not get thrown out so you have to be a quarterback so maybe another quarterback walks away but the curve ball i would be well. They've never ever protected. These guys better. You can't hit can't hit him in practice. They don't really practice. They don't play in preseason games than in the regular season. They're very protected now. Could we see it in years past when guys you know in the early thirties and are kind of breaking down and they've bank forty fifty million for sure and this is. I think that makes the league a little nervous moving moving forward. I don't think they want to start getting anywhere close beside maybe quarterbacks given out these n._b._a. Types hours 'cause i was twenty eight years old now worn down for football. The ball already had eighty million dollars in the bank and i was a middle linebacker. Let's say look equally and i'm twenty nine years old and i've already bank. Let's say the contracts and the next c._b._a. Equivocal keithly he signed a ninety million dollar deal screwing all played out in. I'm out you know. I play my rookie contract. Play my next contract for years eight years in the league and i leave. I if i'm beat down you know but there is something any human. There's a competitive nature just in our society right. That's the great part about. Capitalism is competition. I start a business. You can start auto business to try to take me out. It's no different football. Someone's coming for my job. I wanna keep the job. Why do i wanna keep the job. One just competitive nature. I want this job to a a lot of people in the league love to play football because it is so difficult to play you practice infinitely more than you play. It's the by far of the three major sports the most mentally draining sport. You spend you ever hear like oh yeah and basketball for during training camp. They had weeks of meetings. You notice that you hear about in football meetings watching film in meetings meetings. Meetings meetings like those are tedious. Those are mentally challenging the pla- have to learn the a playbook have to learn the adjustments to the playbook then have to do it on the practice field in basketball you just play and then you get to implement stuff through the games in baseball ball. You never practice you might take batting practice before the game but you just play in football. You just practice practice practice practice. You spend the entire off season. Just practice practice practice practice then you spend the entire month august practice practice practice. If you're a starter you may get twenty snaps depending on who you play who you play for and then during the regular season you play sixteen games. They only practice you have breaks every wednesday you practice every thursday and you practice every friday so if there are seventeen or sixteen weeks times and plus you do something on saturday usually kind of a lighter wachter sutak in three and a half practices. I don't have a calculator front of me but i can pull it up on my phone. You're talking a lot of work and i think a lot of these guys in the league kind of like and again like they said madman. That's why they pay you the money what ray lewis you pay me monday for saturday sunday. Get if a free like the games that there is nothing like a football game. The longest i ever played was high school and there was nothing like walking out on the football field. If it was only two thousand people in davis california and then working in college football. I remember going to fresno state and going out to a game our first game. I think it was a home game against wisconsin. There's forty thousand people there. The n._f._l. Is indefinitely players from the s._e._c. and some of the bigger big ten big twelve then. There's nothing like the n._f._l. I was lucky enough the team i was with was it's a unique family's home game in philly in a big game especial just like a ton of raider games now most from having been that big but when you get a good game at the coliseum. It was pretty sweet a ton of games back when they had candlestick for the forty niners. There's something there's just something special special about a football game. Why 'cause you don't play that many many people who've been to an n._b._a. Or even professional baseball game there's nothing really special about it like you. Just you might gone to thirty major league baseball games in your career you in your lifetime. You see some home runs. You may not see some home runs but most football games you go. Do are pretty big deal because you know they don't play that often so this notion. The guys are gonna walk away. The sport is kind of uniquely equipped to keep guys around just because the carrot in front of their you know what they're working for is so special it really is that there is nothing like a game amy and it and it pays a premium like locke made so much money but if you're a guy that's only made ten million then you factor in asia and fiji factor in taxes so you got a decent chunk of change. You're ahead of the game. If you retire at twenty eight but you got three or four million in the bank you're still only thirty years. You've got to do something and then you start realizing god. No one's willing to pay me anywhere near this in the real world. I kind of got to start from scratch. These these jobs are elite. You could argue. There is not any profession quite like the n._f._l. Because unlike like basketball pays the most but but there's a small percentage of people there's a third of the amount of people in an n._b._a. Rosser isn't n._f._l. Roster so even the guy's not making that much money in football. All those jobs don't exist nealer sports because because there's way more positions and i also got news for you football because the way the sport is it's about toughness. The size is not crazy size. You get guys that quote. Unquote art great athletes smaller school guys undrafted free agents on every team didn't make the n._f._l. You don't you don't mean to be julio jones to make the n._f._l. You really don't i mean think about the amount of undrafted free agents from a cow poly to north texas to some law schools in ohio that make the league every. Do you think about that guys that had no scholarships out of high school. That's unheard of in the n._b._a. Unheard of baseball maybe a little more a little more skill <unk> oriented but in football you guys from everywhere making it to the leak all over the country little schools big schools you name. It makes italy every year guys again. It's the ultimate meritocracy guys get drafted. They get cut as we'll see in later this week. A ton of fifth sixth and seventh round picks will have been beat out by undrafted free agents from war schools have it just it's a never ending cycle guaranteed to happen so the ripple effects on the on the league or strong but i actually actually think on the players. It won't have an impact at all okay. Let's dive into just some weekend thoughts things i saw this weekend preseason games college whatever and we'll just hit on some in different topics starting with the first one miami florida which i think i read was the highest rated opening day football games ever been on e._s._p._n. I don't know if either of the teams is going to be. You know maybe florida's a nine win team. My guess on miami true freshman quarterback the a._c._c. kind of socks probably seven venerate wins <hes> but the n._f._l. Speed on that field was jaw dropping and listen. I'm a west coast homer. I i wish the pac twelve was better. It's not it's terrible right now. The fifth best conference in the country and they just don't have the athletes on defense that you saw. I mean florida if they got a good quarterback. They'd be the at eleven when team it. Miami is just a couple of years away like they're headed in the right direction. The the speed in the s._e._c. is the game changer. It's the speed and the n._f._l. Players on defense at every unit d. line linebacker in db the speed and the violence in which they play and i i thought miami held their head high and went toe to toe with them just in terms of the physical nature and i. I was impressed but i include the s._e._c. and i also include. I said this earlier the three teams clemson miami in florida state and afforestation little down miami's a little down but but when those schools are right they get s._e._c. level players as as i've said many times phil savage told me jimbo fisher's advantage you know seven years ago at florida state eight was he recruited an s._e._c. player and he played an a._c._c. schedule same thing that's happening daboh and that's the advantage that i think that miami and florida state if they get back on track they should be able to at least push each other and i do think that miami true freshman quarterback. We'll be headed in the right direction but man. You don't need to be bill polian to realize there. There were some n._f._l. Dudes on that field that just to go from that game to arizona why was like varsity playing the first game and then j._v. playing the second game dude every uncloudy <hes> it sure feels like he's gonna get traded i. I'll just be a little surprise when he does get traded or i guess i anticipate uh-huh what they're going to give up form. Like what is it gonna take to get javale on cloudy because i know you're going to pay him in that. I did read yesterday because i've said before that you can't pay them if you trade for him if he signed his tender and then they trade him. I guess that he can do that. Even though i thought the date already passed so maybe i'm a little confused. I'm not a cap up expert but i i'm fascinated because they won't sniff what the bears got for khalil mack last year and the two first rounders and in a third rounder not a second round or cause did was pick swap <hes> by i'm fascinated but it all signs are pointing to him not being on the houston texans too much longer and bill o'brien really really screwed up on this one should traded him in march right win. The league started or within the first couple of days like d ford then either get draft capital a us. Get the cap space to use just the you would have functional ability for this season instead more than likely unless they get a player for them which i wouldn't even save out of the realm of possibility. They're probably not going to get that much. Beside draft picks in camp relief which i don't know what that does for you on september first or whenever the hell they ended up trading him mahomes jimmy <hes> jimmy's alive. I didn't think jimmy garoppolo was great. Daddy looked much more calm <hes> <hes> and he listen. He's a good player. They just need to get his confidence back. He's still a little rattled but he made some big time. Throw still made a couple head-scratching throws. He's gonna throw picks and that drives kyle nuts but jimmy's alive. He's no longer going to get cut. He's no longer going to be benched for nick mullins since he's still a good player. We witnessed it mahomes. I listen i. I'm trying not to live in the moment. Be a prisoner of the moment you now aub. Everyone's like middlekauff so much. Verbally mahomes is fantastic. He's elite. He is so good <hes> the hype on him is not even strong enough ee. He could have thrown for four hundred fifty yards against the forty niners. He's he's a bad ass. He he really is now to me. Has one flaw right. Now is being a little reckless with his body when when he scrambles he did i think in the first preseason game he dove at the line of scrimmage in this one he had some crazy scramble where ended up diving headfirst kinda on a left his ribs exposed. He's got to be careful with that that to me is only fluoride. Now is being a little reckless with his body bro. Just slide get out in a bounds. Throw the ball white. You can't take on needed it. It's a hard balance. He's got. He's got some far vian to him because he doesn't give a damn. I mean he does not play scare which is awesome but he's too valuable to quote unquote reckless keenum name the officially named the starter for the washington redskins skins wanted to buckle the redskins j._j. Grooms going to be fired at the end of the season. The redskins are going to be awful. It's just crazy. What a what a train correct. Franchise is really i mean it's really eye opening how poor a franchise and one of the biggest markets in america with some great history is consistently so terrible case keenum like didn't see that last year in denver what what are you guys doing <hes> rosen. I'll give floors credit. He has not named a starting quarterback watching a little bit of rosen and third preseason game. He made some plays i. It's a no brainer to me. Josh rosen should be starter for the miami dolphins. You traded traded a second round pick for him. He was a first rounder a year ago. Just sink or swim with them. Find out what you have. Maybe you'll find out you have a legit starting quarterback. That's young and doesn't make that much money. Maybe you'll find out he's not good enough but either way you will know the one thing you will not find <hes> or the one way that you you won't find any information out if he sits on the bench behind ryan fitzpatrick. What's the point of that. Fitzpatrick is a fantastic backup. He's a good you know great to have rosenwasser to go down <hes> great to have just a mentor josh but you have to play josh rosen. This is a no brainer. I saw three plays in the preseason preseason game from this weekend thinking come on guys. What what are we doing here. So hopefully floors makes the right decision and then we just have you know pretty good weekend college football games. That's coming up this week. Maybe on friday. I'll pick like three or four my favorite games pick em against the spread because i do love to gamble. I actually might go to calver she u._c. Davis on saturday saturday i i i love college football or something special about the pageantry about the student sections the band nothing like opening weekend great start with miami and florida uh but this should be. This isn't a great week when you look at the game but it's better than nothing for sure so i i. I'm excited for <hes> i think game starting on thursday certain thursday stay. We'll start getting some legit. Football games wasn't focused. Chris broussard and i am here with my partner rob parker and together. We are the odd couple. That's that's right. Join me every day as we give you. The hottest spiciest sports takes that you won't hear anywhere else for the record rob. Parker is the <hes> i'm the more reasonable what so listen to the couple with chris bruce art and rob parker on apple podcast bore with the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts okay. Let's let's get to this thing. We like to call. The middlekauff mailbag slammed spend my d._m.'s instagram at john. Middlekauff is my handle same as my twitter account and do post videos there my deums on instagram wide open you slide right in. I answer your questions start with jeff with most teams in the n._f._l. Having an established veteran or young quarterback do you think the next few years quarterbacks will be drafted is lower due to lack of need across the board interesting question here. The one curve ball currently in the league is the steelers are gonna need a backup quarterback. Chargers are going to need a backup quarterback <hes> thing about some of the older teams i mean the patriots are wildcard. Even though i know them is playing well right now. Thank some older you know. The packers are gonna need a quarterback. You're gonna get some of these teams. That might pull a mahomes or an aaron rodgers. Were they take a guy in the first round and he sits. That would be my guess of something happening. <hes> like that love the podcast you and colin are the two most informed media people when it comes to football in my opinion sam. I agree question about call about cornerbacks. I've seen a lot of discussion about some rookie corners. I rock sim. The colts guy among others being better in man coverage than zone just wondering how hard it is developed zone coverage skill and if it's normal for college cornerbacks to have strength playing one type of coverage verse other or is it a college issue or some. D._c.'s don't scheme zone coverage bridges often demand demand. I think it would tend to be an individual program situation. Some programs run a lot of zone. Some programs run a lot of man. If you get a saving corner. He's done a lot same with a lot of the guys in the s._e._c. Run a lot of different coverages. I think to make a general statement would be impossible. Oh i think it completely depends on the individual now. Some guys may be at a school that runs a lot of zone but he has the physical attributes where he could wind up to be a good man corner corner and if he has good ball skills in these fast i think it will translate but they're going to be some guys that are manned demand corners did if they don't have good instincts. They might not be zone on cover. Guy i think beside quarterbacks at least in my scouting life my years working in a league and definitely in college football and just watching football obviously really closely since last five or six years talking about it for a living corners is a really hard position to evaluate to project. There are a lot of things that you know. Maybe the tape doesn't show guys some guys. Do you know i was having this conversation a couple of weeks ago. How many corners corners come into the league that have poor ball skills that ever become a good corner. I think like an end all be all non starter for me with the corner. If you don't have good ball skills slash instincts like you can't make plays on the ball. It's going to be hard to be a corner <hes> especially in man to man but even zone. You have to have good instincts. It's it's probably a little bit different in zone because you're more like pattern matching so you can put yourself in right positions. Be stopped make plays on the ball. I don't need you to be oto beckham. Catch the ball but just make doc plays on the ball break up passes and that to me is a skill. That's fine. I mean there's not many corners why my theory is just load up on the defensive line. Just have a lotta she corners and just try to get fifty plus ax watching the steeler game the other night. They were destroying the titans. They don't have great d._b.'s. It just brush the same thing with the chase ace. I'm the i'm just i'm gonna get elite because we're going to score points. You're going to be behind. You're gonna have to throw in. I'm gonna have my edge rushers. Just tee off on you that that would be my philosophy. I saw report that there is no way the n._f._l. Will have four preseason games next year. That's having to preseason games eighteen weeks into buys three steam well. I think that reports off because nothing's going to change until the new c._b._a. So i would say aided. That's impossible. That's just that's not going to happen now in two years whenever the c._b._a. Runs out there are definitely going to change. I you know whether that's two preseason games to join only practices one preseason game to mandate a joint practice. I don't know how they're going to do it but i think the day and age of four preseason games with the next c._b._a. Is dead. I i think it's one hundred percent dead but as i noticed as a media guy and as someone who thinks about content distribution and it's just a fan of football. What do we do in the month august. You know i mean if you're if you're baseball fan. Your baseball team sucks. You're not really watching that much baseball. There's no basketball. There's a little golf on the weekends the n._f._l. Games throughout the month of august take inventory up before college football so they get three weeks basically content of the preseason games that we think suck really four. I don't count the last that preseason game four where they play all the scrubs where every team plays this thursday but those three preseason games uh-huh are basically spread out every week three straight weekends from thursday to monday like a takes a lot of space. It takes a lot of inventory for these networks that are in bed with the league so i i think it somewhat complicated. I saw bill o'brien today said he had an idea we go to preseason games and then you go to join practices in your in you televise joint practice. Maybe mike up the coach's. That's not a terrible idea. I actually think it's one of the smarter ideas ever you could probably do mandate a to join practices were filmed their t._v. products. You know you pick two or three a week and you just put them on national television and then maybe one preseason game i wouldn't be opposed to that 'cause football question for the pot any chance people overlooking penn state as a contender in the big ten. They have three likely first rounders. It could have a top five overall d. They have a known a quarterback running back and wide receivers pretty big if but upgrade talent and all those spots they upgrade at quarterback quarterback. Trace mcsorley is good. I got you wanna keep wanna bold prediction from middlekauff here. Yet is third person keep an eye on trace mcsorley being better better than lamar jackson. Melinda hamblur and from youth are potential all americans they get michigan at home avoid wisconsin brassica in northwestern in the west well. They've lost saquon barkley. They've lost obviously. This is the second year without saquon. They lost the quarterback with he's a flawed college player but trace mcsorley is a winter. I i liked trace mcsorley now. Their coach can really recruit so. I don't know i'd have to go. Look up all these guys. I'm not some diehard penn state guy but james franklin clearly crushes recruited. I think the question is like when they get michigan when they get you know high allstate when they play some of these big games if they get it to the big ten championship game. Can he out scheme those programs. Can he out scheme wisconsin. You know kenny <music> out scheme scott frost you know once the talent is relatively equal. I i that's to me the knock on franklin because there's no disputing. I always refer <unk> for bald guy. I like his energy. He can really recruit. Just can't dial up place and i don't. I don't know john here. Everyone always saying the numbers and little league football are declining and football overall sport is waning as a longtime football print fan. I pray this isn't true yeah. I don't have kids. I can't speak on that. I have noticed though that local high school teams seem to have smaller rosters than when i played. Do you think that the overall participation in football is waning and if so so do you think that the sport is linked to fan interest in the sport if so do you think that is linked to fan interest in the sport. I think it has more more to do with like what is a millennial whatever the generation is older than me. You know that are now like forty five to fifty that have fifteen year old kids like if you're a fifty if year old guy and you have a fifteen year old kid i think there are a large percentage of people that are a little uneasy with and just the stories that they've heard and i think there is something to be said about that. I know like where i grew up. In davis. The rosters have been smaller but a lot of kids play like water polo swimming soccer but we're kind of like <hes>. We've always kind of had that but i i don't know my pulse on high school. Football and even even football is not strong enough to have informed opinion on this. I i do know a decent amount of people between probably forty five in their early fifties. You know with kids that are getting closer to high school and they often asked me they go. That is the city you know. Real is something that i should be afraid of. Let my kid play football so it's definitely a real conversation happening. <hes> will it. Have you know big impacts long-term. That's a hell of a question i i don't have. I hope not a but you can't be disputed and i think the league has actively tried to change changed the sport and make it you know safer. I think they've actively tried make safe these last four or five years. Do you think fantasy football has peaked in popularity now that more and more states legalizing gambling <hes> that's a good question. I think fantasy is pretty unique. Because you get a squad you get to play with your friends. You get to do it all year. Long gambling's kind of separate gambling something you do as an individual i mean maybe you brag about with your friends but you don't really get to like brag about with your wife and you know like especially when you lose. I think they're kind of separate entities. 'cause i can enter a fantasy football league with my buddy for one hundred bucks and be entertained all season long. Now i'm <music>. I'm not a big fan. I'm a more of a daily fantasy guy than a long-term fantasy guy but i am a big gambler and i i really i've never had the patience to do fantasy leagues. That's why like like daily fantasy but daily fantasy and same with gambling. I don't view them as the same thing though they have some similarities because you're putting money up but i i don't know no i would say that they won't have that much impact or direct correlation of one getting hurt based on the other. I think they'll both be fine. I i don't think fantasies peaked actually question for the male beck how much andrew locks retirement is solely centered on the colts organization feeling to protect them over the years and their mismanagement of handling his health if he wanted to return the n._f._l. But not the colts would that be possible and how would that play out. That's a great question. I don't know the logistics of of i know they put them on. I are retired or whatever i'm pretty sure. They have his rights as part of paying him the money. I don't think he's just if he just comes back next this year. He's not a free agent like the colts. The colts control him. I'd have to ask someone the league like the exact rules for how long like calvin johnson wanted to come back this year the lions album they decide his fate whether he wants to play for them or they'd have to trade him so i think that one hundred percent if andrew lock had then protected had a good g._m. Had coach it had an offensive line those first couple of years and just play like a normal player like just the start like mahomes or like you know maybe it it looks like baker is going to have or even darnold or josh allen. He'd still be in the league for sure <hes> pretty sad actually john. What am i missing about the situation turning down thirty million dollars offer to play quarterback for the dallas cowboys. Maybe the most coveted position all american sports thirty million is insane amount of money money that ninety nine point nine percent of people would kill for in their lifetime. Let alone one year pre-tax i know but still and that does not include all endorsement money that comes when you're being the most being the quarterback the the most popular team is proven that the quarterback contracts bring teams down big fat quarterback contracts brings teams down agree. I just can't understand why more quarterbacks don't take a little less to help the team freaking win. That's what the old team game is. All about the n._f._l. Is hard enough as it is making a few million more just to show up and get your ass kicked never have a chance to win. Anything of significance. Just doesn't compute with me. What am i missing in. Why do more guys not choose the money when it will make a difference in their lives anyway in fact back in may make it worse helena question. I think the greed of the agent for sure because like you said if you're prescott and you can look jerry jones be like you know what i'll take twenty six million dollars. A year signed a five-year deal so five years one hundred million. Let's say five hundred million dollars twenty you guarantee every penny. I'll easily lee make that up. I live in dallas texas on no state income tax and i'm giving you an extra instead of taking thirty five a year. I'm taking twenty five giving you an extra ten. Take care zeke take care of mari. Let's kick shot. Everybody and i'm gonna become. I'm worth one hundred million dollars being a quarterback. I'm gonna get another contract and be such a rockstar in dallas. I'm going to get huge endorsements now. I completely understand instead of taking thirty two million. I wouldn't take fifteen but if i trusted my g._m. Which i don't know why you wouldn't if you're dakyns your g._m. Is also your <unk> owner. That's paying everybody. Why wouldn't you take more of a team friendly deal especially that team where you could win a lot of money. I'm with you like i think you know. We love painting painting. The owners like greedy pigs well. Why aren't the players greedy. Pig still like dak prescott really has take thirty four million dollars bro. Couldn't you just take like twenty five and help. Help your team out because you you know you're gonna get more contracts russell wilson's already on his third contract how many contracts rothlisberger rivers and all those guys get flack does six contracts tracks so yeah i mean it'd be one thing if we're talking like five or six million dollars. You know like a five year twenty five million dollar deal. We're talking like ninety one hundred one hundred ten million dollars when you're the quarterback of the cowboys. I'm with you to think that i have any sympathy for things like okay. Dak time thirty five bumper your team's. I'm not gonna be as good. You're gonna get throttled promise you that i got a question for your show. What do you think about the protection of quarterbacks too much watcher to little. I think right now just right because the league's very dependent on the players on the quarterback and when a quarterback goes out when a couple of quarterbacks go out from injury it can ruin the league because the team's already sat on primetime games. It's just hard to watch you know so keeping. Those guys healthy to me is very very important important. You know keeping track keeping mahomes keeping baker keeping jimmy keeping all these guys up right is key to the health of leak no different the n._b._a. Making sure the top fifteen players. There's play like adam. Silver has epidemic on his hands like you can't raw product when your best players play you know. Seventy percent of the games like the atom is bad business buddy roger goodell realize. I can't have a league where three of my top ten quarterbacks are on injured reserve by october first at the bad business because the end of the day is all business <music> the fans to generate interest to make everyone money the players the teams people like me like it's all dependent on the fans being interested and i know as a fan. That's how i started off and i still i mean i'm a fan of football. <hes> the moment you give me two backups on thursday night or a monday night game. I mean it's terrible herbal. It's hard to watch. I can relate to everyone being like this sucks so if i know it and you know it you better believe they know it because the television rating say so so so i think at the end of the day you can never do enough to keep the quarterback healthy. I know it sucks but i i it's. It's the right thing to do. Appreciate everyone listening on. It was pretty luck. Heavy pet podcast pretty crazy. What a crazy forty eight. You know seventy two hours be crazy week just with him retiring but appreciate everyone. I'm listening and seal later this week. Football constables your regular season right around the corner can't wait audio's poofs <music>. My my name is danny shapiro and i'm the host family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from us secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. <music> family secrets is a show where you can hear powerful stories of heartbreak healing and hope listen to season two family secrets on apple podcasts the iheartradio iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Middlekauff - 3 and Out - Brady/Luck TNF takeaways; NFL Week 5 game breakdowns

"And. Yoyo what's up everybody, John middle cop, three and out podcast back at it. Again, just finish watching the Thursday night game, actually sneaky, entertaining game for, you know, a sneaky blow out. I'm going to touch on Brady gonna, touch on luck. Mainly going to do a mail bag. I have so many questions in my Instagram in box at John middlekauff you can slide up in my DM's asked me a question and I will answer them through the. That's the way we're doing it now. So if you have a question for me again, just go to my my Instagram at John middle cop, same as my Twitter account slide in and may question. I have tons and I'm gonna try to bang out a bunch tonight. Not a great NFL slate this week and a couple good games and we'll touch on those two, but but I, I gotta introduce my friends at seek getting tickets. Online can be far too complicated with hundreds of sites and varying levels of reliability. It's hard to know who to trust. 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And again, I, I always struggle with this because social media is a small percentage of people. You see it with politics, the extremes on both sides. I always say the. The average guy or girl is just worried about feeding their family, paying the mortgage, you know, making sure their kids go to a good school in our healthy. They're not caught up with all the vitriol that you know I spend way too much time on social media and it just sometimes it's so jaded, you know, people aren't, then you go out to the real world. That's not really liked that. So I also feel like that was certain takes certain players, you know, forever. People thought like LeBron was hated. Now most people thought LeBron sweet people thought LeBron was really good since he was in high school. So Andrew lock who gets, I think I don't wanna say much-maligned, but I do think there are percentage of people that think he is somewhat overrated and think he's actually not that good. You know, I think those people are the dumbest people on social media, and and if you do believe that you're listening, you're just you're dumb not trying to be mean, but that's just a fact like Andrew lock is not only star player what he has. Has had to overcome and what he is still overcoming is beyond just I opening first off, he arguably had when he came into the league, the worst general manager in NFL history. I don't even think that's high. Personally. I honestly think that's factual. Then he also had a coach who the best coachie ever had a Chuck Pagano seems like a good guy, but is when Chuck pagawa got sick and Bruce Arians took over. So for Andrew luck to overcome a clueless general manager, a head coach that was terrible. I'd even head coach couldn't coach defense his own. Let's call it what it is is a dysfunctional mess. I mean an absolute. He's an addict. He he's been in trouble multiple times for drugs. The organization, Peyton Manning basically band, aided the entire organization. Then they were gifted. Andrew luck who, again, band, aided the entire organization. They did such a poor job of protecting shoulder basically fell off. Then he is to blame for this fell snowboarding in hurt his shoulder again. But I'm watching the game tonight thinking they took a left gourd number six overall that against Quinn Nelson's fine. Even though clan cloudy was tossing around like a rag doll last week, you took a guard in the first round when you have Andrew luck and that listen, I get you wanna protect them. I think we'll Hernandez is graded out as one of the better guards so far in the NFL. The giants took him early in the second round. So you could've traded up maybe in the first round and got a guard. I mean, there's so many other players to get. I mean, I can find solid guards in the mid rounds. This isn't that complicated, but I'm not gonna pick Chris Ballard on that the receivers and I not why Hilton was out. But I mean this Chester. Rogers character can't catch a cold ride grants, probably their best receiver replying. They have guys have never even heard of Eric Brown actually had a good game. I mean, flamed out of Detroit actually looks okay, but that is who Andrew lex playing with. And he still managed with the shoulder to me, his arms probably eighty percent nowhere near what it once was for him. Even to function at this high of a level is beyond me in, here's another thing, the guy who's coaching the team, Frank, right? Seems like a high level guy actually good, offensive coach. They had zero and I repeat zero intention of hiring the guy if Josh mcdaniels had not stood the franchise up at the altar, he wouldn't be the head coach. Now, I, you know, I think might have been John Calipari or some. I mean, multiple coaches have said this kind of being tongue in cheek when they were hired by a certain school or certain program or certain team that you know. You know, they weren't there wife's first twice either, so it hap- Pete Carroll wasn't US's first choice back in the day. So it's not the end all be all. If you're not the teams, you know I had Joyce, but they didn't even interview the guy. They did not even interview them. So again, Andrew lock has started behind the eight ball from day one. He continues to fight an uphill battle as again, his shoulder almost fell off because they couldn't protect them. So what he's able to do in this franchise that without him would be, I mean, hell they might be a five or six win team this year with him without him. I don't think they would win a game. They are the least house that team in in all of the NFL. I mean, they dressed, they dressed forty four players night in some of those players were actually healthy inactive because they couldn't play. Excuse me injured in injured actives like they were dressed, but they could not play because they were hurt. Like watching the two franchises. It's crazy to think that that was ever a rivalry. It really wasn't a rivalry. It was paid manning. Now, granted at the time. They had Tony dungee and Bill Polian. I mean to two hall of famers I never thought Tony Dungy was a hall of Famer, but you get my point billions. One of the better GM's ever, Tony, John. She's a really good head coach. Again, I'd put them hall a really good, but good head coach and Peyton Manning top bite quarterback ever. So there is no. I mean, since Payton left the left Indianapolis, Colts the rivalry. Remember when Chris Ballard hit the table last year, set us back on now. There ain't no rivalry. There's an ask kicking by the one side. Now let's get into the other side. People wanted to bury them because they looked off and they did their offense had issues, but people forgot. Now he did get nailed for PD's and I saw Dan Chana see tweet like so crazy that football when you come back from PD suspension people just like he's back, we're in baseball. They get banned for fifty games. Yeah, Dan, because no one cares football, I don't Julianne Amon, didn't do PD's. I think he was crazy. You know, he's he's a five, nine overachiever that went to some small school that has become one of the better slot players in the league. I mean, what do I think he's taking Jumba juices every day? I don't care. No one's no one's bothered by this football. What we anyone that's played any level football never put on a pads in pee-wee's junior high high school college of the pros understands the violence of the game. You know, all takes his watching. NFL game to go God. I wouldn't blame him if you sucking down PD's like the Flintstones we don't care. We do in baseball. You know, we don't really in basketball either would bother me guys doing HGH left and right, and they're rumors that a lot of people do it in basketball. We don't care. We care about baseball. No one even judges Julian Ataman funny. If anything, you see how important he is this offense. He changes the entire dynamic because he can get open constantly underneath and guess where Brady likes ago with the football underneath right over the middle. In these rules today's day and age, you can't cover that you can't drill element does not three worried about getting hit. There's no Ronnie, lots cover in the middle of the field. Brady's go spot. It's why the slot receiver has been the most arguably the most important weapon on their team over the last fifteen years. Maybe a little less than that since you know whatever they got Welker. So ten years ago because that's Brady likes to go. And then it opened up. It opens up gronk to do whatever he wants to do, either run down the seem that they were in gronk of litany of different routes. And then you saw tonight if somehow they can figure out how to use them, Josh Gordon will be a weapon for them because Brady hasn't had a guy like that in forever. But really, all he needs are his running backs. James whites. Tony Michell catching the ball out of the backfield because most teams do not have linebackers to cover those guys. Julian been running over the middle of the field and then gronk being gronk and they'll kick your ass because more than likely they're going to be playing home games because that's usually where they play. They always end up with a one or two seat, and their defense is Ben, but don't prank. They figured out in Tom Brady, just going to beat you tonight was just such a major mismatch. It really wasn't fair. Its final score thirty eight to twenty four, but got it feels honestly doesn't did not feel that close. It really didn't. The patriots are one of the true great dynasties of my lifetime. It'll never be seen again in the NFL ever not in the salary cap leak. I mean, first off the likelihood of a quarterback playing like this till he's forty one or basically slim, the none a coach staying in one place for this many years, slim to none is just. You're not going to see it again and I try to enjoy it when I watch it because when it goes away, it sucks. I mean, I remember I grew up in northern California watching the Niner forever with Eddy DeBartolo and Steve Young and George C for and I wasn't even old enough to really remember Bill Walsh. I mean, I was alive, but my I came into my own as a sports fan like the early nineties. He was already gone, but they kicked ask for another ten years. They like a twenty year run. And then when it ended it ended. So I understand Robert crafts, high level guy held. Jonathan Kraft seems to be well respected in the league. But whenever Brady and Bill say, adios, you know it's going to be a different day there. Man, I don't care what type you know how high level the organization is. How. Profitable and how highly valued the franchises. Bill, Tom, make this thing go in without definitely without Bill. It's it's surely has hell. Looks like Josh mcdaniels will be the next head coach whenever Bill decides leave. And I'm not saying he's gonna leave anytime soon, but you just just enjoy it. Why? Even if you hate him, even if you hate the patriots, you're jets fan, raven span, whoever in the AFC and you despise, you have to respect them. They're that good. Like their standard of excellence is basically unmatched any sport in the history of the salary cap era. I mean, it's it's crazy. You know, it's just it's, I don't think it will ever be duplicated moving forward unless they change the NFL to like non-salary cap league, which they'd never would it really just the tip your hat tool. So whether you love them, hate them, whatever. Just just respect the ass kicking before we. Get into couple of games that I'm interested. Let me tell you about my friends at Lincoln. I know a lot of you guys run companies owned companies are in charge of hiring at the company you work for sure. You try job posting boards, but can you really be sure that the right person sees your job instead find the right person who helped grow your business with Lincoln? It's the largest professional network. People go to Lincoln every day to grow professionally in discover job opportunities, seventy percent of the US workforce is already on Lincoln. Lincoln jobs matches people to your role based on more of who they really are there skills interest in even how they open up for new opportunities. This way your job get seen by more of the right people. Most Lincoln members haven't recently visited job boards so you can only really reach them on linked in again, hurry up to Lincoln dot com. Slash John. 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You had four turnovers last year against. I mean, last week against the raiders defense get ready for the Baltimore defense who get back Jimmy Smith. I think depending on the TISCO measure you look at, I mean is consistently top five. They are top five defense, you know, they're not Jacksonville or Chicago, but Baltimore's damn good. I think Baker just last year last week against the raiders beside the turnovers, which the fumble was bad. The pick six wasn't totally his fall to me and went off the guy's hands. I thought he played. Okay. But again, it's the raiders whose defensively terrible. I think Baltimore just punks Baker Mayfield. He's in for a long day, Green Bay Detroit. Detroit doesn't do much for me. Green Bay should win that game. The most interesting game of the day to bad. It's ten AM west coast time Mahomes against the Jacksonville, Jaguars defense. You got Jalen Ramsey already talking some shit about tyreek hill. I guess tyreek hill kind of started. But Jalen Ramsey basically just said he's returned specialist Jalen. I got news for you. Atari kills actually an elite wide receiver. He's an elite player. I'm kinda rooting for. I'm a little tired of Jalen. Listen, I'm all for Jalen saying the Andy, Dalton, the Josh Allens in saying those type guys stink. Even though antidotes planned pretty well this year, but you get my point when you start saying he said he said gronkowski sock Tareq. So I can't even take seriously. I think you're starting just to talk to talk. And I hope tyreek hill gives them the business Denver at New York. I don't know why you'd watch that game Atlanta just getting. I actually like watching Sam darnold, but that's a pretty terrible game. It lands. At Pittsburgh talk about must win for these teams land one in three, their defense is basically all injured, but their offense has been exceptional. I'm gonna score on a points. Pittsburgh has just been the biggest red flag team of the year. The tide. Cl- Cleveland is start the year. Levian bell is nowhere to be found. He claims to come back at the by week. It's just just a weird year. Again, my theory is Mike Tomlin is coaching at USC next year after he gets fired or quote unquote leaves this year. Again, theory, I don't know if it's true but keep an eye on that New York at Carolina. I think Carolina handles them New York stinks, ally stinks, and the giants just stink. There's no way around at the New York Giants passed on a quarterback at number two. Overall now saquon special player, and if they ultimately get Justin Herbert this season because the number one draft pick it was probably worth it. But that was not their intention. They thought they were going to be good this year and they are terrible Oakland versus the chargers. To me. The biggest headline of this game is that the chargers are playing a home game, a home game in Los Angeles. First off since the chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles. The second biggest market in America, their franchise. Value's gone up like one hundred twenty million is it hasn't gone up at all. They had to pipe crowd noise into their practice. Again, the chargers are the home team. This entire crowd is going to be silver and black Reiter jerseys everywhere. The charges are in bear sment of a franchise. I feel bad for Philip rivers. I feel bad for all the talent they have on that team. But you got to pipe whole crowd noise when you have a home game, like it's probably time to start reevaluating some things right that should you think that they think the eagles were the Packers or the patriots pipe. Crowd noise at home. That's insane. Like honestly, that is crazy. I don't even think it can be overstated how nuts that is like the chargers are just one big, walking, red flag. The chargers are playing the raiders that do not have a home next year who's coach traded Khalil Mack. And the raiders don't even feel like the weirdest crazier team in this whole game is just dean, Spanos, man. What a joke, big game here, Minnesota at Philly. I think Minnesota's already sneaky in must win mode. They're one two and one. They're just they have played really well offensively, but their defense can't stop anyone. Everson Griffen went crazy and he's not around anymore. Can they go into Philadelphia and get a win Philly. A little bit of a Super Bowl hangover. It's hard to say soubra hangover because their quarterback wasn't healthy. The first couple of games. Now granted, they did not win the Super Bowl because of Carson Wentz. But this is this is a much bigger game for Minnesota. If the eagles start two and three to me, the look at the NFC's it's not very good. I think Philly's still gonna get ten wins win or lose this game, but it's it's borderline must win because if you start one, three and one, if you're Minnesota and the bears who have a buy week already start three and one. In the Packers probably win. They would be three one in one you'd be way behind the eight ball and a team that most people. I mean, I didn't know one human. The did not have them as a playoff team in Minnesota would have a uphill battle to make the playoffs Arizona at San Francisco. I live in the bay area cover this team, either podcasts and on the dick. But this is a tough watch. The only reason now I have to watch. I watch the Niners no matter what, but if Josh Rosen wasn't in this game, I, you might be able to find John middlekauff taken a nap about one twenty five on Sunday afternoon, but I'm interested to watch Josh Rosen. I thought he played pretty well last week. I talked about it in the podcast on on Tuesday. So that's really the only interesting part of that game Los Angeles at Seattle. Do you know what's crazy about Seattle? Is that even with crazy dysfunction? Earl, Thomas flipping them off a team that feels like there were headed for top five draft pick if somehow they could beat the Rams at home, they'd be three into and you'd be like, damn Seattle is not terrible into to me really speaks a Russell Wilson. Like last year, they felt like a four win team, three win team yet they went nine seven, you know, and their defense was a train wreck. This. Shear they feel God awful yet they're two and two. I just think when you got Russell Wilson as you're starting quarterback, I don't care how bad your other players are. You're always alive. Now, I know last year at the end of the season, the Rams win Seattle, and I don't know the final score thought my head, but it was like seventy two, nothing. I mean, I think legitimately like forty, five to seven. It was one of the bigger ass kickings of the year. I just think it'll be interesting to see the tw- the twelve are they still humming now that against Seattle does not. It's not like their own four to and to you somehow win this game Chit. They're thinking wildcard, so I don't think they're gonna win. The Rams are heavy favourite on the road, but I think we look at Seattle a little differently than they actually are. We look at them like them and the CJ Beathard led San Francisco forty, nine for the same. They're really not. I mean, Seattle is gonna finish. Second in this division is long as Russell Wilson stays healthy? Not that San much, but. Then the Cowboys of Texas. I said the last week, the Cowboys just to me now, the ratings disagree with me because they crush the television ratings, but this game, I mean to Shawn, Watson has now played that well to me Dak I just kind of a guy Cowboys of no weapons on offense. Besides the the Houston Texans, it is fun to watch. JJ watt plays playing well, clowns, a monster will fours expert pretty fun player like picking him on my draftkings lineups, obviously Hopkins one of the best receivers in the league. So I guess we could have a worse Sunday night game, but I would probably choose something else. Okay. Let's get it the middlekauff mailbag slide up in my DM's on Instagram at John middlekauff and I will answer your questions. John question for the pod. How do you feel about the trend of organizations going all in on winning and spending big bucks while they're quarterbacks are still in rookie deals? I just think it's the MO. Logical business move now, but you have to draft a quarterback and start them, you know, it's not if you don't draft a quarterback in the first round, it's not necessarily going to play out that way. Some teams lock not look, but they of did it with luck will not really, but the whence Goff the Cowboys didn't do Dak Seattle did it with Russell for a couple years. There is an element of luck to it like sometimes you don't get good until you have to pay your quarterback, and then you have to make some tough decisions. So if you take a quarterback in the first round though, and he becomes your starter mariota Goff Wentz. The all the guys this year. All those teams should throw all their chips in the middle of the table. You have to do it. But if you don't take a first round quarterback, like would, if you're, you know, you have Andrew luck. You know what? If you have Russell Wilson would if you have. Aaron Rodgers or hell, even Matt Stafford, you know, just just a two or three or window at max. You know, it's it's easy to say, and everyone talks about it because three or four teams have gone all in the eagles did it the Rams of done it trying to think the Browns kind of this year with Baker, I would imagine they'll be really aggressive this offseason like the Niners look at the Niners. For example, they were handed Jimmy Garoppolo in a trade. They had all this money. I think that was their plan to draft a Sam darnold, Josh Rosen, something like that and do that. But then all of a sudden they get Jimmy Garoppolo and then he's a free agent. Well, they're either gonna franchise, pay him. They kind of had the Pam, then they pay them. They still have a lot of other guys they can pay and they still have a lot of salary cap room, but they never really got to enjoy that process. Look at the Minnesota Vikings. They had teddy Bridgewater, but then his legs napped. And they had to use the money that they probably use on other players to sign Kirk cousins. So there is somewhat of an element a lock. It's not like a black and white. You just draft a quarterback in the first round and then build our team paint. Other guys. Sometimes, you know, that's not the way the cookie crumbles. Is there any chance to raiders kgo eight to season, or will they be lucky to win five. I think they're better than a five win team. The problem with eight wins as you saw the Browns game and you really saw the last two weeks against Denver, Miami, there's just too inconsistent. They are talking to a buddy. He made a great point there. Probably the hardest team in the league just to it or schedule and go win, win loss, win loss loss, win. Any game on any given game could be a winner loss. Now, of course, milk hopes the NFL, but you open up the the patriots schedule or just good team schedule. You can kind of do that and you can do the opposite with bad teams. The raiders are heart. I mean, they could easily be three in one right now or they could easily be and four and they're one and three, I and they could. They could go into the by week in two weeks at five hundred at three and three or they could be one in five. I won't be shocked with the any of the outcomes. They're playing the chargers this weekend who play at home yet. It's going to be a road game because it'll be alright or fans. And then they play Seattle in London. I, I mean, if you told me right now the raiders win the next two games I can see it. You tell me they lose the next two games. They lose San Diego slash LA and then go to London loose. That's not inconceivable. So. Probably say the more I talked about it like the teams when you describe them like that, usually five or six wins more likely than a though I will give him credit. The GM is not good in Jon Gruden, but the coach is not bad. He is a, he is a good offense. Coach. Question for the middlekauff mailbag not that the bears would, but if the raiders offered back, the bears the same package that they received in exchange for Khalil Mack. So two first rounders and assess a second rounder. Do you think about what? Okay. The the bears got Cleal MAC and a second round or the raiders got two first rounders in the third round, or do you think the bears will take their picks back and whatever else they gave up? No, all the money, knowing what they know now for weeks into it zero chance, there is no chance on God's green earth. The bears would redo that trait. The big reason that the bears might make the playoffs this year in this Trubisky. Another guy that I forgot to mention about going all in on a rookie quarterback. That's what the bears did. Because basically if trubisky's just solid Cleal max next couple years while he's making, he's still makes decent money because it was number two overall pick, but he's by no means making twenty plus million dollars. No, I don't. I think Khalil Mack the next two or three years, I mean, is in the prime, and I repeat the prime of his hall of fame candidacy so good question, but I think inside the bears. Building knowing people there, they think they got an absolute steel as they should. Well, we had to give two first rounders and we got Khalil Mack, Anna second rounder. Like, are you crazy? And here's the other thing, it's a little bit of house money because they didn't have to give up their pick this year. So they got roquan Smith. So they're looking at it like we got roquan Smith and Khalil Mack. So we don't have a first round of the next two years. Well, we got these two guys and we have a quarterback on his rookie salary. So no good question. People brought it up before, but no chance the bears doing that. Just started listening to the podcast. Enjoy it. Thanks. This is rolls. Eighty nine. Would Joe flacco be a good fit for the Cowboys? Also? Would they have to give up much to get him in a trade? I think if the ravens who looked pretty good this year they're defense is excellent. Flacco played really well the last couple of years. Let's say go eleven five and win the AFC north flacco is going to be. Starting quarterback there next year, you know, because Harbaugh wouldn't get fired. Why would you get rid of flacco? Especially if they were to win a playoff game or two. I just don't think they're going to get rid of him. I to me the Cowboys. You're kinda just in bed now adak for the next two years. Now, I don't think you necessarily if you go like five or six wins this year, you have to pay him this off season and you wouldn't pay this off season, but he's your quarterback, and that's when you went all in for them. When you got rid of Tony Romo slash Tony Romo retired, which was the right move. I don't argue that they did the wrong thing, but to me, the wrong thing would be paying back after this year, but you don't like you're not traded for Joe flacco mainly because I, Joe flacco not gonna be available. I would. He be a good fit for the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, he's a better player than back, but it's just, I mean, it's this isn't fantasy football. That's not gonna happen. Hey, John from San Diego. I wanted to ask you a question for the mailbag. Why do you think the chargers continually underperform considering the personnel that they have also, if the bolts don't make the playoffs, would you trade rivers to a contender in rebuild? I feel bad for Philip since he's continually played great, but always underperform, I've always said about the chargers. Their biggest problem is needs Manas and he has cheap tendencies. And when you have cheap tendencies in the NFL, that typically means paying a coach, not much money and they the last two coaches they've had when they've had all this town on the roster, the last six, seven years. They hired Mike McCoy in the Anthony Lynn, both those guys make two, three, four million dollars top coaches in this league Harbaugh's. I was gonna say Tomlin. He's having a rough year, but obviously the chat. I'm not even talking Bella, put him in his own little world. Cow Shanahan make seven. I Kyle Shanahan makes. Double what Anthony, Lynn mix. He's a better coach. You imagine if the chargers last year when they hired Anthony, Lynn would have gone after Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay, but they never would cause those guys cost some money. And it starts with Spanos that they use to ever pay coach top dollar. You have Philip rivers, you have all this town on defense. You got Keenan Allen Gordon, solid as a running back. It's it's sad. I feel Philip rivers to one of the highest level guys in the NFL whose careers going to end hell you might never make the playoffs again if they don't trade him. And I don't think they would trade him because I do kind of need them. You know, they're going into this new building. They pretty relevant Los Angeles, but they are pretty solid. You know, I think there are no man's land like imagine a Philip rivers is on the New York Giants with Pat Shurmur. Now I'm not sure Pat Shurmur is a great coach either, but with all that talent was saquon Barkley with Oto Beckham junior with sterling shepherd with Ingram tied in think how good they would be and Philip rivers, I will defend him till the day. I die in the sense that you know he was. He fought an uphill battle in his organization, just the cheap tendencies. The mindset there, I mean without him, can you imagine how many games they would have one less seven years? They just would have like an average quarterback. Imagine him Joe flacco and and ally manning switch spots. Like think how lucky rothlisburger is to have played his entire career pittsbur- imaginative. Rivers plays entire career Pittsburgh now, Roth version elite player too. So like he like he. Would have office resume, probably even the giants, like got to play for a lot of his career for Tom freaking Coughlan, Tom, and the New York Giants organization like flacco got John Harbaugh Ozzie Newsome. Rivers has got dean Spanos. Moving an hour up the road in a town that doesn't want him. I feel for I'm with you. I don't think they trade them. I think Phillips just kind of stuck and you hell. Maybe he's the next coach USC he I would fire clay Hilton in a heartbeat to make Philip rivers, my head coach, obviously, he's got a lot of football left, but. Filbert if he wants would make a elite college football coach, I could see him in the south like it. Auburn at one of the SEC schools just crushing one day. He's gonna be so rich on that, and he's got so many kids. I'm not sure if he would, but he's already talking about coaching high school. I mean, just a football junkie. I hope he one day coaches college because I do think he would be he'd be really good at it. Okay. N m g one, five, eight one. Hey, John. Do you think the Niner should have sat Jimmy g. the last five games of the last season to prevent them from having to pay him the big contract, they wouldn't have known how good he actually was if they had done it. But in return, they would have saved a ton of cap space. I understand where you're coming from, but they had no choice. They were one in ten, would they finish it six and ten? Yes. They were one in ten. The franchise was in shambles and they just had to throw him in there. They didn't know that he was going to win last five and kinda put them in a tough spot. I think they did the right thing. They felt good about paying them, you know, tear in an ACL. It's kind of a freak DO even though on that play. I mean, he should just slid or gone out of bounce those his fault. But you had to pay a quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, Belgium, gifted him, the quarterback, they didn't really have a spot. It's easy to say Monday morning quarterback, and in hindsight what they should have done, but at the time as someone was watching them like, I couldn't take anymore CJ bathroom. So they were in a tough spot. They did. They did the right thing by plying them because here's the other thing and just talking about dean Spanos the Niners. Don't worry about money, not saying that they're just going to give it away, but like that doesn't hinder their decisions there. Okay. If by doing something is going to optimally cost them more money if they think they can win, you know, dean Spanish doesn't think like that dingoes well, who's the most functional coach I can get for the cheapest price like jed when he blew it up and he made some mistakes with Trant and chip in Tom Soula don't sue. Those big mistake said, I need to fix this thing. He gave sixty five million dollars combined Lynch and Shanahan because he just had to get the train back on the tracks and it's different with the player salary because the player salaries paid for by the media revenue. But ultimately you had throw Jimmy in there at cost him big money. But again, they did the right thing also by paying Jimmy dean Spanos might franchise them. Some organizations might have franchise Jimmy, the Niners paid them because it actually becomes cheaper. Like if you had franchise, let's give a high. Hypothetical, let's say the Niners played. Let's say they play him last five games, but they don't wanna pay him. So they franchise him this year than Jimmy tears. ACL. What do they do? You know you're gonna franchise again. We can't let them walk because think of all the teams like the New York Giants would pay him. I think all the teams that would pay a guy coming off an ACL big money. He would get the same contrast team would pay Jimmy Garoppolo, huge cash coming off an ACL, the Cowboys. I mean, just go around the league teams in the quarterbacks would pay for this guy. So I do think that the Niners now have under contract. They don't have to franchise them again. They did the right thing, hey, John big fan of yours. Keep up the good work in being a big Alabama fan. I was wondering when you see Alabama's dynasty coming to an end all dynasties do. Well, I think. I think Levi. Alabama is pretty simple. I mean, just whenever whenever Nick hangs it up, then I don't know if the dynasty will come to an end depends on who they hire. To me there to clear guys, they would go after would. Number one would be dabble Sweeney. Clemson clearly has. I wouldn't say bama's budget, but it feels like pretty damn close. There is no certainty ten years ago. It'd be a Lockheed, come, Alabama. And if you told me dabble Sweeney was the next head coach at Alabama. I'd say yeah, they might not still be Alabama with Nick Sabin, but they're going to be in the playoffs every year. They might not win five championships in ten years or whatever, but they're going to win a couple. But if Davos said, no, I think they would go heavy after Kirby, but Kirby played at Georgia. Georgia is kind of sleeping giant, and now he has a rolling. I don't think he'd leave, so I don't really know what they do. You know, it's a big problem. Luckily, Nick like Bella check, footballs his life. He's not a big hobby guy, so he's not. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. At least you've got a couple. You know, more games, I mean more seasons to enjoy him because if you're him, why would you you're not gonna leave to as a sophomore will the net you got him as a junior now, maybe he would leave after junior year. He rattled off a couple more championships. So Bama just one this, they would have won three in a row. I mean, if you want three championships role, I mean, what else? He doing four, I don't know. But. Yeah, I think you're good there for a minute. Hi, John, even though I can say in other saving questions, saving coach, another five years who are few coaches that could replace them. Okay. This kind of answered this. I know Daboh is definitely a candidate, but if we can't get him, who would we go with? So let's actually talk that out a little more. Like I said, Kirby, if they wouldn't do it really, who would Alabama go after? I think they would go after NFL people, but I don't think an NFL head coach would necessarily leave his job like Nick did back in the day to come Parrella Bama. Then you look around like they can't hire Jim mcelwain. Now the what happened at Florida. Wood lane kiffin. If you were to have a couple of big years, FAU be entertained doubt it, but you never know Lang. Kiffin is crazy as a sounds as c. got themselves into this position several years ago. Now granted they got popped when Pete left, so there's a lot harder for them to get anyone, but they got into a desperate situation and they hire lane, like what would happen at Alabama. If saving retired dabble said no, Kirby said, no, they start looking around like canvassing the country and you can't get an NFL coach to come. What am I going to do? And then you got lanes in there that has Alabama ties won a championship. It would bring some juice would keep your team really relevant. The knows how to recruit. I'm telling you is crazy. That sounds now that I just talked through it. I don't know if it's that far fetched. I really don't. Okay. Last question these bins. Good little mailbag. Quick question for the pod. If you could put a draft together of the last three years drafts of quarterbacks, what would be your order. Well, clearly a couple of guys have really shied. I do think because this guy's coming off a CEO were almost discounting a little bit. His teams also really injured. Now, if Andy Reed's my head coach, I'm taking Mahomes because the combination. But let's say I have an average head coach. I would take Carson Wentz. He's just to physically gifted canoe too much. Obviously, Mahomes is to, I would go Wentz Mahomes Goth is established himself as as pretty special. You know, I like Watson, never loved them, like the hype that really kind of gathered the last couple years. I like Trubisky coming out now. I been pretty put off withstanding the six touchdown game last week by what I've seen, but my guy, Matt Nagy coaching them up. If Trubisky and get a turnaround, I'm not giving up on Trubisky by any means, not the biggest Dak guy. Like mariota as a person. I'm just I don't know how good he is. We'll see if he can keep this up. I'm out on Jamie's again. So I think Mahomes and Wentz or just in a category by themselves. I think Goth is established himself. Just a damn good player. I think the jury's out onto Shawn Watson intra Bisky, but you know what? And then obviously I forgot about the crop guys this year. I would have Rosen darnold somewhere in there with with the Shawn Watson, the Trubisky same with Baker, I'd be out on like James Abbe out on Josh Allen for different reasons. Obviously, Josh good kid. He just a bad player, James's okay player. He's just a slap off the field. So just tar. I mean, it was good crop quarterback this year. Actually, four guys go in the top ten and the more and I'm not a big, Lamar guy. So I go Carson in Mahomes in a category. By themselves, then I'd go Goff. Then I'd go the group of three that I really liked this year. Darnold Rosen Baker with Shawn Watson and Trubisky mixed in there below them, and I'm probably leaving the Lamar's out, Josh Allen out James mariota out. I throw mariota below the crop of this year's rookies. I'm not giving up on them, but I'm not super high on them. Okay. 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FTP Ep. # 162: NFL Wildcard Weekend Preview with ATS & DFS Picks

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FTP Ep. # 162: NFL Wildcard Weekend Preview with ATS & DFS Picks

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast bringing you the latest sports news fantasy analysis and opinions don't forget the hot takes and have Hort show without heartaches these days. What about hotcakes though, I want odd case? Now, here's your host ready to jump into the thick of things Dwayne calendar. Welcome to the show where everybody got lots of talk about because we've got NBA. And of course, the beginning of the NFL playoffs, obviously in the NBA the talk of the town and just basically the league in general is James harden. I mean harden again burying the warriors Thursday night with a forty four point ten rebound. Fifteen the sys- game including a game winning three pointer with Draymond green. And Klay Thompson draped over him. Obviously everyone's talking about how dominant harden has been this year. But we're getting a little bit crazy with of the talk because rockets GM Darrow Maury, basically said the following you can make you could argue for him as the best offensive player of all time. Let's be clear harden is having enough. Other MVP season well-deserved, he's gone off. He's averaging thirty three point two game. But let's be clear about the rationale behind. How those points are getting gathered harden is an expert at baiting teams into fouling him. He flops all the time any hooks people. I mean, it's not as though it's unwarranted because with the NBA rule changes that came into effect once David Stern get ticked off with the league product of watching the Spurs and pistons engage in a seven seven game series. That was a rock fight the entire way through over a decade ago. He made sure to get rid of hand checking in any other form of defense. You could play in the league at to make it a point guard driven leak, and he's gotten they've the NBA got what they wanted. I mean, harden true to form has actually perfected the. Size. I mean, you started seeing it with Steve Nash and in like an AI. But like teams have started to figure out if you can't you can't face guards on one. You can't you can't put your hands on them. And they're constantly jumping into you. Or in hardens case, they also have prevented you from being able to prevent them from driving to the hoop and also by giving them space. They could just do a step back three pointer right in your face. And there's nothing you can do about it. You know, at this point harden is actually in fact on guard -able because you will fell out of more contests. The more you try to challenge the only way to get hard and off his game right now is to just deny him the ball entirely and just become with the fact that you're going to give up to thirty plus points to the likes of Austin rivers for Gerald green. Because that's really what's going to take. You're going to have the deny hard on the ball as much as humanly possible. And just hope that the other guys don't absolutely crush you. Because at this point harness has scored forty points at five consecutive games and the elegance who actually do that in a league history are Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and Allen Iverson in the past fifty years, again, this is a two guys in the modern era. And I and I gotta move it. I say an air 'cause I say the Jordan years again when you can actually play defense at hand check, folks, it's a different period NBA history. You have to take it into context as to how things are going. So I I would say in terms of the league right now you've got hard in doing things that no one else is doing because base off of the stats alone. Harden has now drained a hundred step back threes to season. Now, the guy in second place is one of my personal favorites. Luca Donncha who? Who is the NBA rookie of the year? It's not close but Donncha which is second both twenty eight. I I mean, again harden is just doing things that other guys the league are not able to do they don't have that kind of repertoire, so you know, hardened says it's a lot of hard work. And you have to gotta bloom because you know, he's he's kinda doing a similar motion of of setting up his offense in ways that, you know, realistically, you don't really see that much of because at that's what makes it so hard to defend against because not a lot of guys are have this kind of moves that he kinda uses that old man game on you. But you know, it is what it is. But. Yeah. Hardin right now is making an easy case for every p again this year. I would say genus is also right up there in obviously, you can make cases for LeBron as usual in quiet, Leonard up in Toronto, although qui- had a Ruutel. Welcome home back to San Antonio the other night, but I fully expect the raptors bounceback. But anyway, let's get into the NFL action. Coming up later today. Obviously, we had the wild card round in some interesting match ups to say, the least because I got look at this slate as a couple of games that, you know, the lines don't quite make a whole lot of sense. So I'll just kind of parse through it. And we'll take it from there. So the first game we've got the Houston Texans hosting. The Indianapolis Colts Texans are favored by. And depending on your the sportsbook. You're looking at it. They could be fair by one they could be fair by what have they could be favored by two points. But realistically, the Texas are not clue fail. Because usually when you see a line where it's less than three points. That means folks don't trust the home team in terms of the odds makers, and that's why the line too low to me. This is a clear case that the culture better team the Texans. I mean, the only reason why the line is favoring the Texas because the home team, and I'll get to another line that didn't quite make a whole lot of sense to me. But you know, the the long term of it is is that. You know what the Texans even though they came in with an eleven five record. They played one of the easiest schedules in the NFL, if not the easiest it depends on how you want to read out the actual strength of schedule a metric they they have different measures. But regardless of like, they're in the I would say bottom three or top three depending on how you look at it in terms of easiest schedules. I it really was a cakewalk. So the winning streak the Texans went on realistically there were all playing bound feeding team. So again making the playoffs should have been given for the squad. The problem is is that the way they got there still kinda shows a lot of that proud of the seem. I love the Shawn Watson don't get me wrong. But my issue with the semen I address it before I have severe doubts about the coaching ability Bill, Brian, and I have no confidence in this defense being able to show up, despite the fact. That they've got David on cloudy and JJ watt. This defense consistently struggles to get pass Russia's when they should be able to get a pass rush and the run stopping isn't really up to snuff as much as women like. So I still think that there's a a way for Marla MAC on the colts actually have a pretty productive day today. I'm not entirely sold on the Texans. Just from the standpoint of I think they can be hurt with screen games. And I think they can be hurt by the deep ball as well. And as I said the run game. Yes, it looks good in spots. But they've been gashed on the run at times this season two. So, you know, they're numerous factors here. But I definitely would be taking the culture. But the one thing I will say about this game is that this should be the highest scoring game of the weekend. I'll be slightly surprised if it doesn't end up being the high scoring game. It's got the highest point total at forty eight and a half. Half. I actually expect that total be over. I do think between these two teams they'll be able to air the ball out. And I have confidence that the Shawn Watson being able to find ways of getting the Android Hopkins. The ball, you know in the NFL the season Hopkins had over one hundred fifteen catches and zero drops. And yeah, maybe I just jinxed him, but the man just bawled out the entire year. And I just think that we're going to see a show between him and T Y Hilton today I- Hilton has torched the Texans in both matchups this year. I expect more of the same today. Realistically, the second. There is the weakest part of Houston St. fence and there's nothing about this game today. That tells me that the Texas have figured out a way of stopping Andrew luck the culture gonna throw the ball. We know this, and I do think between Marla MAC and. Name Himes the colts are gonna find success with the running game as well. So I just think that the colts are to balance on offense. And that's what carries them through to next round. You know, realistically, the NFL would be pushing for a colts cheese match. Just 'cause I mean, Andrew lucked versus a Patty is Patrick Mahomes. I mean that cell cells TV, right then and there I mean, there's no getting around it to obviously with Cosby and sixty they they would play the cheese outright. If they were to prevail today. And you know, if the Texans wind in their automatically locked into playing they're automatically locked into playing the patriots of should be interesting up. And we'll see we'll see how it goes today. But I'm curious. Curious to see how the Texas respond because you know, as I said, they have been perennial pretenders for a number of years. Now, this is the fifth time in eight years. The Texans have played the Saturday Saturday while car match up and each time the Texas find ways of looking even more pitiful than alas, and yes, I know their quarterback injuries in different excuses. You can label on it. But you know, at a certain point a team just has to step up and get it done. And that's really all. I'm looking for here. I'm looking for Texas actually, show me something that gives me a reason to believe in them moving. Thanks over to the nightcap. Obviously, we've got Seattle traveling to Dallas the Cowboys are a two point favorite which is surprising to me because you know, again, we've seen this time at the time. The Cowboys are better home team than row team. So to me. I understand why folks have conserved about the Cowboys showing up for certain games, but not at home at home. The Cowboys are actually a pretty well-balanced quad. The defense plays much better the offense place better. I I look at this as a game where the Cowboys should have been at three and a half point favorite just from a valuation standpoint. I would have to take the Cowboys in this spot. Not because I'm gonna bash Seattle, but you know, on the basis of both teams you get run heavy teams. Obviously Seattle has the edge in the quarterback battle with the outside throws, but you got to very good defenses. So I don't really see Seattle being able to generate enough offense to realistically give Dallas enough trouble down the stretch. Because the way you kind of beat the Cowboys as you kinda give them out of their element. So Seattle would have to force turnovers and be able to score points off of every turnover in order to put down in the spot where they're going to abandon the run game. You know to me. This is straightforward game of Dallas is going to run the ball Zeke. They're gonna play action and try to take a couple of shots down the field with Amari Cooper. They're macking of waste time. Trying to do the intermediate passing game. So as much as some folks would say, you know, if they use Kobe's Louis, I I really don't think that's it's going to be that kind of game plan for Dallas. I think they're really going to just kinda concentrate on. Giving Zeke as many carries as possible. And you know, try to move the needle that way. So they can they can open up some shots down the field against Seattle secondary. Which is very good. But Shaquille Griffin has been beat throughout season. So I think they're going to try to get a Samachar with Mark Cooper against a Griffin. So you know, in terms of the matchup itself, it's a forty three and a half line and outside of the colts sexist game. I think the recipes playoff games are going to go under typically have the scoring and playoff games drops off from the regular season usually get like one crazy wild card game. But more often, it tends to be more balanced in terms of the overall under numbers, and I have to lean towards a that. My mindset I just between the amount of runs that Dallas and Seattle will carry out the this evening. It's going to shorten the game up tremendously. And you're just not gonna have enough possessions by both squads to put up forty four points or more. I just look at this game where Dallas ekes out of victory by field goal in again with it being. A minus to spread. I just think that the valuation just works out a far better for Dallas it. It's it's hard to get off that line. Moving onto the Sunday matchups. We've got the ravens playing that host to the chargers. Who are? I mean in terms of teams that got screwed by the NFL the chargers really should be the ones complaining because you got the chargers flying from the west coast to play a one o'clock game Sunday in Baltimore why the chargers are playing Sunday early afternoon when they could have just taken one to Saturday. That's your guesses. Good as mine. I I don't know how they set up the TV money. I mean to me Dallas would have made more sense as the prime time match up on Sunday at four o'clock. And then you could have just had the chargers ravens play either that four clock a game on Saturday. And then you have. The eagles bears Saturday in you slide the Texans and colts too early early Sunday. But you know, I just don't I don't really get how the chargers ended up getting shorter the stickier because again, a one o'clock game on the east coast. It's going to be ten AM Pacific time terms their body collapses. It's just not really a fair ask a team, especially when you had more than enough time to set up these playoffs schedules to alleys balance it out for the rest of the squad's traveling. I mean, Seattle got the late night the evening game, slots it. It's just a it's a it's a rough draw in my opinion. If you're chargers fan, but. Be that as it may looking at the chargers ear they are three point underdogs to the ravens, you know, really tight game here, forty one and a half total. And I'm I'm kinda gauging this from the standpoint of. If Melvin Gordon were healthy. People would be more in favor of the chargers. And I know Baltimore came into San Diego played the tails off and just took it to the chargers and got the w I get it. I get it. There's nut. There's I'm not gonna dispute that the one concern. I have with Baltimore is the fact that they played a balance well as they could play against the chargers. Because again when you're playing against the offense. The ravens have with Lamar Jackson. It is very hard to prepare for. But the benefit that Baltimore has most teams as that under teams haven't really seen it. And so they couldn't prepare for the churches. I've seen it a ready in the past month. So it takes away the element of surprise. So I look at that as a as a game where he. You know, the chargers can find a way to steal this one and get the W just from the standpoint of I could see the chargers defense being more ready to go to stop the ravens rushing tight because even there I encounter. The ravens were not able to rush for two hundred yards against the chargers. Whereas they've been able to do that against every other squad this year. So again, I look at I look at the the match up here. And I just I don't necessarily see as much of an advantage for the ravens as other folks have done, and you know, one of the other things that I would say about this is the fact that you know, if we're if we're looking at the tale of Tate. It's still a bit of it's a it's a bit. It's a bit of a adjustment curve for the Ray is because you know, you got a rookie making his first playoffs. I in the Margerison. And you know, I don't really know if the ravens are going to be able to put up enough points to get it done against charges and blame me I'm well aware of Philip rivers choking in the postseason. You don't have to tell me twice about rivers choking in the postseason and finding ways of of losing losing out on on golden opportunities in the playoffs. But the one thing I'll say here is that usually the big the big choked up for that you see out of rivers at times in the postseason happens later on. Not in the wild card round. So he usually has a solid wildcard round. It's the subsequent matchups in the postseason that draws some concern top. I I look at this as a game where I think the chargers managed the economic dis- screams more of a twenty two seventeen kinda game. The me with charge prevailing, you know. I could end up being wrong. But I just looked at this case where the chargers find a way of getting it done and the under hits on this one. And finally, we have the matchup that that made people were expecting a couple of weeks ago, but it's the bears hosting the defending Super Bowl champion. Philadelphia. Eagles. The eagles have been an absolute mess this season with Carson Wentz Inada line of with injury. You got Nick foles who couldn't look who can move the ball down the field to save his life to begin the year. All of a sudden has turned a light switch on and has been somewhat passable. At least Nick foles is still an average at best QB my opinion, and it can only play one system in terms of getting the ball out of his hands and vertically down the field. He can't do any other NFL systems. But for the purposes of this matchup, we have to consider the fact that every single wide receiver on the bears is dealing with some type of injury. And we may have Allen Robinson cleared to go. We may have Tele Gabriel to clear to go. But as it in Miller's banged up. You've got. Got a budget injuries. Among the wide receivers for the bears from catchy standpoint, you're looking at three Cohen because during Howard's, you know, he's a couple balls. But it's still not his natural natural position. If going off of the game tape, and you know, Trey Burton has been in and out in and out and in and out of the office of game plans week after week this season. So he'll go weeks at a time without catching the pass. And that's just the way it goes. Now, I looked this game. As a case where Phillies should lose this game. But I don't see enough out of the bears where they're absolutely planning on taking taking a this matchup and rolling on into the into the postseason. The bears come across as more happy that thing. It worked out this year. But they never really made a true commitment to the squad to improve the offense significantly with some digital free agents outside of Robinson and Burton now. At the end of the day. The bears are always going to hang their hat on their defense. But I have to say that you know, I really do see the bear struggling to put up a ton of points against philli. So this is the kind of match up where again, I would not be surprised if this was a twenty seventeen game. But the issue is that. From. Every metric the bears offense is so hot and cold that I would not be shot if Philly holds the bears Sunday, twenty points and at that point. It's a crapshoot because you know, Philly is going to try to push the ball down the field. You don't know if they're going to get penalty calls, and that's always the mic. So again, I would say look to see how the referees are calling pass interference mar because that's gonna play a big role as to how the bears were able to play their defense. So if it's getting called tie, you definitely could see some. Some concerns on the bear sideline as to what they should do next. Because again, I've seen Matt Nagy cost the bears multiple games this year for decisions that were head scratchers. But on the the whole folks are happy because the bears have been winning games this year. I just look at it. As more of a reflective talent. That's currently on the squad rather than the actual ad coach himself, but we shall find out as we progress further and to the playoffs because it is an interesting mix games, I have to admit, then, you know, even with making a making a case for these teams. You know, I could say that there is a path for them to each reach Super Bowl a gets difficult at times. But I I do feel as though you should have some competitor. Games throughout the playoffs this weekend. So we'll see how the games go today and also tomorrow. So in terms of the DFS lineups. Let's get into those quickly fit being a four-game slate. It's really hard to kind of mess around with the lineup. So you gotta have a kind of clear picture in your mind as to how you wanna go with certain rows because it is extremely limited given the player pool size this weekend. So on both draft kings fan though, I think the number one play a QB this week. We get weekend. Rather is Andrew lock, you know, I can't really find another excuse not to play him. He's eighty four hundred on fan dole sixty four hundred draft kinks. You know, the only other play you can really go with at and just say that value is you're you're gonna get more bang for your buck is trying to play Watson and see if the Texans can get a couple of big hitters against the colts defense, but outside of that, you know, those are the top two place the other the other guys, you know, I'll probably play a few lineups. What you Bisky, but those are just more differential shots just to separate myself for a pack a base off of the core. Bill that I have in mind more than anything else. It's it's. It's not indicative of. Where I'm getting value add to anywhere else in the lineup. So Accu be it's it's going to be concentration of that the Indy Houston game, and then a little side. Sideline a few sideline with Trubisky. But that's about it as a one off. But. Have running back. This is Zeki Lally week. I mean, you can get cute and try to fade Dc. But you know, odds are you're going to have to have Zeke in your lineup. He's eighty eight hundred on Faneuil draft kings. He should be running at around nine grant. And you know, it set it in forget, it, you know, I I was trying to find another way of going about it. The only other play you can try to do if you were due to premium player is Melvin Gordon as differential and fades Zeke by using Gordon instead and try to zig or other guys zagging. But I just think it's too cute of a play. If I was going to do that. I would rather just lineup of Zeke and Melvin Gordon and just pay up at running back because I there are. Some cheap wide receiver options to go with. So that's where I would be leaning towards from a fantasy perspective at the wide receiver spot, again just piling on from what I said earlier on the the over undertows the play here is t y Hilton in the Andre Hopkins so wanted to, but I'm going to be playing both of them together to me, it just makes a bunch of cents e-. You get more bang for your buck out of these two than pretty much any other combo on the slate today and use you hope for the shootout, but you know, realistically trying to play somebody's at our options. Yes, I I know you can play Amari Cooper. But you know. It's not exactly an easy place. So I could easily see folks fading Cooper. And I wouldn't have a problem with it. Just because I know that it's tough to kind of get their times. You know, he's he's going to run you sixty seven hundred on fan dole. And then all draft king. So Mark Cooper's certify hundred. So again, some of these price points, it's really hard dealing with some of the the receiver prices because I don't like key now in this week, the ravens secondary's very stout at it's going to be hard for him to get open. Early and often, plus, you know, Doug, Baldwin, even though he's been creeping up the ladder turfs of production at Disney, you know, that doesn't necessarily mean he's immediately getting offers something once ease at it doesn't mean Doug ball was going to be offered up a special kind of treatment from Russell Wilson. Just because you know from standpoint of Dallas defense, they're not gonna roll over any additional coverage to lifestyle lock. It's gotta be straight up play play defense and then have safety over the top. You know, it just doesn't come across. As though there's going to be any easy points front of wide receiver spot. That's why I would rather just pay up for Hopkinton Hilton. Because I know they're going to get the volume, and then you can go cheap with the likes of Dontrelle Inman KiKi not do. New even deandre Carter on the Texans. But you know, you gonna have to find money somewhere. And I just think that the best bought to do it is at the wide receiver position. Just because there's so many options there that are gonna be putting up points, but are near men pricing to make these builds work and obviously at the end. You know, you could you could say what you want about tight end. A it's just been an absolute mess this year and will continue to be. So I would just say, you know, plays a Zacher, and, you know, hope for the best because there there's now a whole lot else left. I mean, yes, you can do a dark throw on the likes of jig jar win. I mean Blake jar win. Or Trey Burton, you know, EIB. Ron's going to be popular to play. But I I just feel as though if you're paying up for culture, it's gotta be t y Hilton Nadi Brun, but you know, times could change it folks Jj their mind to that's that's recommendation. I would give you now in terms of defenses. I like both the colts defense and the Philly defense why because from a pricing standpoint, they're both extremely cheap of the colts our men pricing on the fan Doolan Yahoo. And I love their pricing. Just from the standpoint of it's it's a case where the Shawn Watson is playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL this year, and they just see boatload of Saxe. At least two sacks game. They've allowed and. It's tough. Gaining credibility with a rep that is that it just more. Is just when you deal for an office line that bad. I in the though that type of reputation, you know, they're going to give up sacks or holding penalty. So I just look at it. As a case where you know, there's not a whole lot of downside to plane the colts defense this weekend. And it gives you a little bit more salary to work around with and brings some folks into. We'll see how that plays out as well this year. But the yeah, it's it's definitely a coming to head here. With somebody's matchups games. I really feel. So in terms of these DFS torments gonna be a case where it's it's a split pot. I I'm struggling to think of how someone's going to have unique enough lineup unless they just play one hundred and fifty lineups and just use lineup deviations between them hit the jackpot on one of these plays with a random player getting a touchdown. But. That's the way I kind of look at the slate. And you know, you ready her my pick. So we'll see how things pan out. But enjoy the games today. Everyone and have a good one.

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Week 1 2019 College Football First Look with Kyle Hunter

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Week 1 2019 College Football First Look with Kyle Hunter

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If you live outside of the state of nevada mattie antonio over football contest dot com do a phenomenal job for us. They've you've been are proxies for the last several years and there are proxies again here this year with our entries in the super contests circa million and the golden nugget so if you're looking to sign up four those contests and you need a proxy mattie antoni over at football contests dot com. They'll do a great job for you as they've always done a great job for us or go ahead and bring on today's i in only guest that is professional handicapper kyle hunter of hunter sports picks dot com going today man going on and dan. I like getting a couple of football games and from this past weekend but it's really nice to see a full slate of games here for a week long and we also don't have to wait the entire really you got thursday friday game silicon forward to it so we're gonna start with this so excited as jazz. Both of us are about college football watching for on miami the other day and there's breaking news on the ticker and obviously everybody knows what that breaking news is andrew lock deciding to retire from the n._f._l. And i and my first thought is that one of those berry mccotter tweets you know kinda caught somebody at e._s._p._n. About andrew luck retiring so of course i go to twitter because you know twitter is the best news source source on the planet nowadays and it's true so what are your thoughts here on this whole andrew luck thing kyle. Well yeah like you really really the prize. You know it's hard to say going into this with you know a few weeks ago. The talk was whether he'll be ready for week one or not and then it starts sounding sounding like he's not going to be ready for week one <hes> it's hard to know how to read <hes> the colds going into the season with that <hes> you know have to say i think that obviously the reaction of the sans their stadium <hes> that bothered me pistone so well for them. It's played so hard for the calls for such a long time. I think you know if somebody were to say the timing. Bother them a little bit but that's the only thing that that makes a little bit of sense to me but at the same time you know this is a guy that wanted to play. I was having a hard time with this decision and i think you know <hes> as you and i talking about. I think that his injury now is a little bit worse than those people are letting on <hes> <hes> he's played through a lot. I think that the colts should blame themselves that they didn't have an offense wanting to protect him for a long time. I mean that's really really bad often line loyd <hes> he he made their team for several seasons <hes> to me you know health and happiness. <hes> you know being after your family's. He's got a <hes> pregnant pregnant wife <hes>. I believe that's their first child. Sure about that but that's <hes> yeah. It's something that ah yes to be thinking about you know he wants to be able to <hes> live his life. He's twenty nine years old made enough. I mean some people say leaving so much twenty on the side. You know this is the smart mark. Guy's gonna make that money. Go a long way but i i don't have any concerns about andrew luck going forward <hes> making something out of his life i. I think that you know it's easy for people that they're in judge but you know we know a lot about injuries in football now and what it does to people <hes>. This is an intelligent guy. I i understand this decision completely. Yeah i agree with all those takes and and that was the big takeaway that i had is that i'm thinking the ankle injuries probably pretty bad. Maybe a chronic type of thing and you know the guys played through so much as you mentioned. I mean he's missed. An entire season tried to get back did everything he could and you know what i mean. I'm sure medical professionals were consulted here. I mean this isn't just a decision. You kind of make off the cuff. You know one night after drinking or something like that. This is a decision that he certainly we sat there and thought through so now the obvious question here is what happens to the indianapolis colts. Their season win total drops about nine and a half to six six and a half. That's kind of the prevailing number that's out there. They're super bowl. Odds obviously big dive and it's funny. We talked about it last week with brent from g._s._i. When we had him on the show show that there was a lot of money out there in the futures market so you know for anybody that has those you can you can kind of light a match to them but look. I don't think this team is as bad offers. Everybody is making it out to be. There are very very deep team. They're a balanced team. They've built a very strong very fast defense and look. It's not like andrew. Walk was practicing a ton here entering and camp and then with the preseason games. They've been tailoring a lot of things for here so i. I don't think the colts are as bad off because it's all these line drops in line moves would suggest i think at this point in time is probably equity and value on the over yeah you know. I think that jacoby per decided better than some people are leading on. He's one of the better back that's in the n._f._l. If you remember years ago when we're wasn't able to play and some of those games they had guys like like scott posing as their quarterback. I mean jacoby percent is a big upgrade from what they had in the past or the backup there envy i think that it's probably as if anything is better than ever reaction and you know <hes> i if we trace than nine and a half wins juicy over <hes> understanding that doc was not healthy you know he was not completely healthy. It seems like a fairly big <hes> reaction to move them down that much like you said. Actually they need help with feet. Be around block was better than the teams in the past years so <hes> you know it wasn't going to have to just be all him. I think percents pretty good backup certainly better than the average backup. Some people would say one of the best backups in the n._f._l. So yeah. I agree with you. I tend to think that also you know snap reaction. First thing hiring is is usually an overreaction so <hes> while the colts certainly aren't going to win a super bowl without him. <hes> i would be hesitant to just uh-huh it'd be firing on everything against them all right so speaking of reactions here. Let's do some from week zero of the college football season and <hes> look i mean i guess we'll be nice and these were kind of chaotic games really when you look at them and you know i watched a lot of the ford of miami game was wasn't able to watch too much of arizona and hawaii and obviously i missed a real barn burner there but the biggest takeaway from weeks zero well two of them one play playcalling in college football sucks and to man those were too sloppy games yeah very and i didn't watch too much of the florida miami game and watched almost the entire game from arizona and hawaii so <hes> you know i would say that what i felt miami in in florida game. Was you know <hes> florida a lot of turnovers miami a bunch of the he's very sloppy game and then all turnovers from hawaii and the exact game <hes> you know it was definitely too sloppy games. It ended up being too close finishes. You know whether you wanna say <hes>. It wasn't exciting. You know it wasn't great football. That's for sure <hes> the the very end zone in hawaii games obviously really good finish. <hes> you know florida. <hes> is a team that that may have been overvalued it in the markets <hes> going into the season and they didn't really play that well against a good defensive defensive last year. I think like i said day franks miss something we talked about last week the jury's still out on ebay franks and he didn't look very good last week <hes> <hes> yeah that's a good defense that miami has i wouldn't wanna down very florida's lawsuits too much on the other side you know <hes> miami has a freshman rushmere quarterback in his first game there. I thought he played pretty decent. Especially considering the miami office of line was just terrible. I mean he was under pressure immediately. Every time you know for a freshman playing in his first game i think he was a little bit better than i would have thought given all the situations <hes> in in front of him there. <hes> you know miami is pretty much what we thought they were far. <hes> defense offense is going to be the question. Mark golfing line was very worrisome florida's defensive front. It's going to be better than most seasons affronts people. Hey still that was an issue. <hes> you know i. I think that overall miami played very hard. <hes> a lot of penalties like i said florida i think they may have been just a little bit overvalued. I did down a little bit and in <hes> my ratings <hes> so from that game. That's my take away. What was your takeaway from that game. Yeah i mean i'm not really sure what i'm gonna due for a power rating standpoint as of yet with these two teams because i mean the number didn't really move a ton out there in the market. I had the number pretty close so i don't wanna make too many overreactions here based on the one game sample size. What there are a couple of things i mean look. Miami should have won the game you know so there is that but at the same time jerry williams didn't turn the ball over and he was put in some very bad situations under the shadow of his own goalpost you know he took care of the football and gave miami a chance to win this game. I mean they had the the muff punt you know four and ahead some short field stuff like that but generally didn't make any glaring mistakes i mean he didn't go out there and win when the football game for him you know he did struggle a little bit getting rid of the ball going through his read stuff like that the game kind of sped up on him at times and then i'll have when you get a redshirt refreshment but it never pick he didn't fumble you know it wasn't his fault that ford a kept getting short field so i think in that respect you kind of have to like a little bit of what you saw off from miami on the florida side but really concerns me is they didn't take many shots down the field for franks and that implies to me. The dan mullen doesn't really think that fleet bay franks progressing a whole lot as a passer and i was hoping to see that here you know in year three for both mullen on <hes> your you're too for me and also year three francs. I didn't see that and that's a problem for me with this florida team book. They're going to probably play a lot of close low scoring games but like you you are. I think i'm gonna have to downgrade them a little bit. Yeah i think so as well you know. It's not going to be a huge like you said. I don't want to overreact but <hes> i'd it'd be concerned about that. Florida offense you know candy. <hes> defense carried them all the time <hes> florida when we need to be able to them football well <hes> to score too much 'cause they don't trust that passing game very much <hes> arizona and hawaii. I mean it's it's hard for me to not start with you. You know kevin sampling is there's been a really big disappointment here their own and like i mentioned last week. I wonder if kevin someone just kind of went down to the s._e._c. You no surprise people with the the unique all sense that people weren't running there and the s._e._c. had johnny manziel is accurate. They say what you will about johnny manziel and not being able to stick in the n._f._l. That was a really good college football player <hes> maybe he was able to <hes> you know mean a little bit more to having someone in than most people thought at the time or those people will give credit for now. I think the kevin someone has been extremely disappointing. He still has the talent they they have plenty of talent especially on offense. I i mean obviously they got their yard. They got their points against hawaii. There's supposed to you know why that's fair. <hes> defensively. You would've thought that arizona put up with her performance in that <hes> colin mcdonald threw the ball to arizona so many times. I mean hawaii. Why kept their zone in that game for her. We wouldn't have gotten close finish that we got so you know. Why was the ball will. Oh and i thought it was interesting. That cordero came in into a tie game. You know they brought seven puerto rico and i know that he was a highly talented guy guy that they really like a lot but they put him in interesting spot there. He comes through with that really really good touchdown pass on third down. Which was the key playing the game there in the fourth worth quarter <hes> you know it was it was an interesting in their corner my biggest takeaway from that game arizona just a very big disappointment. Yeah i mean you know you get kevin someone and the mistakes he made some clock management issues. You know some some strange play calls and some certain areas and maybe that falls. I know all sony but look. I mean here's the thing you know. I don't really know exactly how i want to evaluate hawaii coming out of this game. I mean scoring forty. Five points with six turnovers is pretty insane. Winning the game with the minus four turnover margin is quite impressive on the other hand they gave up five hundred thirty nine yards and carrozza only hit the ball for twenty two minutes so lots of big plays big huge gaps in this hawaii defense and we'll see i mean nick relevance has his team's. He's ready for week one. I think it's what they've covered ten straight league one games or something like that <hes> obviously this week zero zero game before but you know i don't know i mean cole mcdonald. Donald interception itis you know they moved the ball and a pretty bad arizona defense and really. I don't know why marcel gates still has a job down there <hes> with the wildcats but i don't know what to do with hawaii here and this is what i was worried about because i mentioned this on last week's show arizona and hawaii will play on teams for me. I wanted this game to fall close to the number. Arizona wins by ten something like that. No i don't know and and the problem is i don't know about either one of these teams so i don't i wanna make any knee jerk reaction judgments or anything like that. I don't want to throw away all the work. I did over the summer time. He's were two teams. I wanted to play on and i. I didn't really want to performance from either one of them. Yeah i mean i think hawaii is probably about what we thought they would be. Though i mean you know they're not gonna play team with as much <music>. All offensive talented arizona very often. You know they're going to give up. Plenty of yards and plenty of points is hawaii but you know that that offense is very impressive for hawaii so <hes> you know unless you think full mcdonald is going to have that kind of <hes> interception trouble going forward. Consistently i think hawaii i'm going to keep keep them right at the same like you said it's hard to win a game being that negative on the turnover margin on the other side you know just the the coaching is from somewhere the not getting your kicker out there in time <hes> taking the delay of game then after a couple of penalties for false starts taking time out that time now during that time out hurt them quite a bit there in that last year he's they very well might have scored if they hadn't try out <hes> those are just things that you can't do as a head coach late in the football game. You gotta do better than that and like you said you know play calling being questionable but i think that game was more. We're about arizona was about hawaii hawaii. <hes> you know it was ready for these week one or week zeros and this multiple times in a row that they've done that like we said so <hes> arizona with downgrade some. I haven't decided how much i need to downgrade arizona. I would let one arizona going into the season compared to most people so hesitant to move down too much. <hes> you know to me. Hawaii was about what i thought they would be <hes> miami about what they thought they would be and the other two teams of teams that wanna down great all right so before we dig into these week one games here and there are a lot of them that we wanted to talk on so we'll spend a majority of the time on on that but something we were unable to get to last week during our segment. I know that you really wanted to talk about this so i. I think it's a good segue here. I thought we get some more futures. You know that's it's still important. There's still a lot of good futures numbers out there on the board. Yeah people have kind of knocked around the season win total market and all that but there's still value to be had out there just because of the sheer sheer number of teams in college football but we scratch the surface on this a little bit last week in terms of looking at coordinators at a new assistance that you like and you know there are some hires out out there that have sheep the opinions that you have some of these teams that some of the window you meant yeah. Definitely i wanna talk about a few days. <hes> <hes> coordinators that i think could make a difference for these teams adam fuller the near d._c. At memphis i liked this hire a lot. I think the memphis fifty cents could be better than most people think and if you look at this this is a team that's giving up a lotta points junkyard in a lot of recent seasons. I think that's going to create create value for it for you because they have more talent than they had in the past because they have a better sense of ordinary than they've had in the past. It's possible that there's going to be some value on unders given that you'll get some very high numbers and i also like them quite a bit <hes>. I liked the number on memphis to to win the a._f._c. I able to get plus three fifty. That's not available to many places. You might be able to get that in vegas somewhere but all shores. You're not going to be able to get that <hes> now. I still still like them if you get him you know to ninety three hundred somewhere in that range. I think memphis is a good team. Veteran team that had coached improved defense. It's better defensive coordinator to me memphis as a team to watch out for their a._c. And that'll be a team. I looked at on yeah. You'll get memphis. They've got one a twelfth year senior quarterback in brady white. I think he's i think it's what actually six season of of college football but the only downside here for memphis they do those tenney dealing telling him their offense coordinator so we'll see how that dynamic plays out on the offensive side of the ball but that's the thing you know you've got this consistent proven pipeline and they the guy like darrell henderson as well but you have this pipeline a bring in great offense of talent. I think you worry so much about the loss of an offensive coordinator. I think the gain in his strong defensive coordinator does outweigh that so i think you're definitely on the right track. There and we'll see what happens with this line here in week one against ole miss i mean i've got the game aimo power rated at eight. It's at six right now. I five and a half even showing off the off shore marketplace. I have a memphis ticket here and we've gone yeah. That's certainly my lean <hes> you know. It's hard taking the team against an s._e._c. team but you know that this is kind of a rivalry game for them. They're going to be up for this game. <hes> <hes> you would think there will miss will be up for the game as well and ole miss had quite a few question marks so <hes> that that would be my leaning that went to. I have a few more here outside plus on these quickly. 'cause i have quite a few notes for the games to as well so northern illinois dare jackson the new defensive coordinator. I'm not taking a future here. <hes> jackson has worked a lot of different places n._f._l. Coaching experience he's been in assistant very many places at this point just worked under nick hold at purdue the last couple a couple of years is the cornerbacks coach really really liked jeff from nicole as i you know really high quality coaches i think jackson being the position footage everywhere in every single position group on defense will really help them at like the the higher there jackson. I know some people think northern allies defense will be way down you know it's hard for them to not be down at all because they lose sutton smith to josh corker and <hes> they're likely down some but i think jackson's should you're pretty well here so depending on what northern illinois able to offensively might like some underwood northern illinois. I also think that northern illinois could become a bad team because people get too low on them so northern illinois. I like the defensive coordinator higher <hes> one that i'll talk about this under the radar as well western kentucky brian white is offense. Coordinator wants to pass heavy. They'll play faster have good receivers. They're at western kentucky. I'm gonna what's for some data. You're there on the over western. Kentucky has been so bad very poorly coach. Last couple seasons could find some value on western kentucky over the total and maybe even backing western kentucky depending on how the marketplace is on mems think western kentucky will be able to move the football quite a bit better than they we have here in recent seniors couple others here real quick michigan <hes> john scotus push gonna gonna push his as quite a bit more than michigan has in the past michigan was one hundred twenty second temple last year <hes> the key question for me here. It will horrible him. Keep the reins even if things don't don't work right away. <hes> you know helps them that they play in p._s._u. In the first game in t._s._u. Not nearly as good as they've been in the past now their defense is there for n._t._s._c. than the offense but still quarter lot not one <hes> you know i don't. I don't think this offense is gonna go top ten <hes> ten bill or anything like that <hes> warp speed but i think they're going to be a lot quicker than they have been before. I definitely think there's been more upside potential. There's been many games in the past where horrible teams have been down by a touchdown touchdown late in the fourth quarter and they're using entire clock <hes>. I like the ability to spread things out play quicker. I like this higher so i like michigan over here. I think that could have some value. Michigan's defense will still very good. They did lose some key pieces from last a few so <hes> that's another one that i would say the last one i talked about to rain but we can talk about that as we give a breakdown of that game so that's a few of the ones that <hes> you know stand out to me as as far as maybe not necessarily on <hes> them other than memphis. I don't necessarily like any of these teams <hes> futures value but i do think that you could have by games betting values <hes> and it's certainly something to keep an eye on when you have these coordinator changes ages that you know different schemes <hes> different styles of play tempo <hes> very important things to watch yeah for sure. That's one of those things too. I i know you're a big time college. Basketball totals guy and we talk about this all the time we'll talk about it once college basketball season rolls around again but the coordinators and you know the different head coaches which is in college basketball <hes> the corners college football. Obviously those are things in the totals market. It generally takes the books a little while to catch up with you. They're gonna know for florida state for example. I it's gonna play faster with kendall byles. We all know that but if they're very efficient you know how quickly do they make that adjustment with the power five team like florida state. It's probably going to be quicker with a team like northern illinois for example where you've got you know an n._f._l. Running backs coach buy and hamic as you're you know as your <hes> <hes> as your head coach here you gotta think they're probably going to try to win the game on the ground which means low scoring games and as you said i mean this is in order to annoying team that people have soured howard on a little bit myself included but there regularly the best recruiting program in the mac so they still have a lot of talent there and a lot of talent on defense a lot of offense on offense so those coordinator things are very important too because not only do they matter here in the context of a game by game basis but also they can keep those recruiting pipelines lifelines going because one of the ways. You get to be a good coordinator. Is you get the right kind of talent to fit your scheme. That's how you get noticed. That's how you get jobs. That's how you you graduate from being a position coach to coordinator so these programs that already have a lot of talent to work with. They should just get stronger. If these coordinator hires pan out yeah i think so. I think that you know as you look at teams that have a decent amount of talent. Yes they lose stuff from last year like in in the case of northern illinois on defense <hes> but you know when you recruit as well as they have compared to the teams that you're gonna play against. If you have a good coaching staff happen you said should be equality team yet again so sometimes there's a losses are key people that move on can be overstated and that can be something that that people put too much stock into so you know. Watch these assistance watch the newport news especially the ones where there's going to be like adam. I said i think the biggest point year <hes> team like western kentucky <hes> places like northern illinois if there are changes in scheme. It's gonna take a little bit longer longer for their adjustments. You know <hes> plays lake michigan or you know alabama or something like that. The adjustments gonna come quicker because you know there's so much money. That goes ended the game so you wanna try to look for the under the radar once as much as you can take a look at week one here the odds board lighting up as we expected game same week limits get higher. We're starting to see some movement out there. In the marketplace. After a lot of these numbers have largely been stale you know for the last five six weeks or so game. He won't thirty three one thirty four u._c._l._a. Am cincinnati bookmakers down to two in the officer marketplace. There's two and a half and threes out there on the board so i'm gonna wind up boeing brad powers dinner for this one a little bit surprised to see this move early in the week here on u._c._l._a. Traveling virtually cross country. I both both of these teams have some question marks but the market is speaking and i guess we have to respect that. You've got a lot of thoughts on this game so i try to keep it us quick as i can but last year cincinnati twenty six to seventeen win at u._c._l._a. A very evenly played game cincinnati with eighteen first downstairs announce fifteen for u._c._l._a. U._c._l._a. u._c._l._a. With three hundred six yard cincinnati three hundred and four u._c._l._a. over to on fourth down in that game cincinnati three for four on fourth down. It was a big difference there in that game. Michael warren ran the ball thirty five times last year caught three passes. I think you'll get plenty. Honey approaches again here but cincinnati is really really impressive that that's in the backfield. I would expect <hes> some of those youngsters to get a few more carries than they did. Last year. Cincinnati is going to want to run the football consistently in this game and that's what they're past that. They want to be very run heavy. <hes> you know if you look at statistics from last year. Cincinnati was certainly the better team plus six at margin u._c._l._a. Minus seventeen sack margin cincinnati with seven. I haven't on third down conversion percentage fifty sensibly in third down conversion percentage allowed. I think those are those are likely to regress towards the mean a little opitz especially since they were so good on third and loans <hes> on third and seven or more last year doesn't raider q._b._r. Of one eighty four what point eight <hes> it's definitely unsustainable u._c._l._a. Play the fifteenth toughest schedule and according desktop p. cincinnati one hundred tape you know to me. Cincinnati lost three key awesome sublime into first team guys <hes>. Let's see if that matters is that going like to be <hes> something where cincinnati can't run the ball consistently last year and they have to throw it more if so then that'll change this offense more than then. Some people might think i think that in this game it might be hard to figure out how <hes> how much down the offense of wine is there for cincinnati u._c._l._a.'s. C._l._a.'s weakness is on the defensive front. They only had fifteen sacks last year. Only fifty five tackles for loss <hes> they were only ahead of oregon state in the doc twelve oregon state had fifty three <hes> you know if you have any kind of company with oregon state <hes> in defensive numbers then that's not good so u._c._l._a. The l._a. After getting the backfield at least some of the time as we look at this game i go in thompson robinson v._c._r. Really improved as the season went on last year. <hes> <hes> you know chip. Kelly's offense should be a lot better in year two. How much are they gonna be better. You know we know they're gonna be better. How much is the question. I think he's golfing zip line in the gym. Origin your days and and adam and i did a lot of talking about him more junior <hes> a couple years ago but the offensive line was really pitiful. No kelly coaching staff improved quite a bit in year one. I would expect quite a bit more improvement this year. I think they want to run the football here as well. <hes> they averaged four point wants his yards per carry. Last year got up four point three yards per carry and pac twelve way. I think u._c._l._a. Was run the ball here too as well cincinnati d. you down some last year the bearcat secondary very very good. I think they'd be tough to throw on here in this game so <hes> you know i think is a really good game. The line is here is interesting <hes>. I figured this was going to sit at three. <hes> you know big. There might be a chance that would go to two and a half at one point <music> but i you know seeing that to really surprises me quite a bit. I think there's probably gonna go back up to two and a half <hes> maybe three when i see a split line two and a half three three <hes> is fifty two percent of the pets right now on u._c._l._a. Seventy three percent of the money on u._c._l._a.'s so we definitely have sharp money year on u._c._l._a. Tamir that's how i define value. <hes> you know last night. I take some notes here and i said all lean u._c._l._a. Since i'm getting feel now i'm not getting a field goal so i don't have any strongly strongly do lean to the under part to find too much value on the under now was sixty six sixty five something like that so you know as long as you're getting above fifty-nine is still under because i think they'll run so much in this game. <hes> you know that you get that. Many running plays being called total around sixty <hes> i lean towards the younger so i'll lean under and it's hard to find out here. I would have been away here. Revenge spot for them chip kelly team better than they were last year. Then cincinnati just had some reverse in science from last season that i don't really wanna lay the points with them but i think this is a really good matchup it. Is i mean it's one of those games is a lot of fun to talk about. I don't know if there's a ton of betting value in it the problem for me. I have this number cincinnati minus five so at two two and a half. I'm very tempted. Getting you know the the wind value. There are three and four at least relative to the politics line that i have. I get cincinnati as a regression candidate in a pretty big way. You mentioned the third long statistics with the quarterback play. That's very important to look at here also to look this is a team that improved you by fourteen points per game on both sides of the ball they went from twenty point nine to thirty four point nine points per game on offense and they went from thirty one point point eight points per game allowed to seventeen point two points per game allowed so you you have to assume that this team will take some kind of step back. That's it's not to say. It's going to be a disappointing season like that. Maybe you're looking at eight and four or nine and three something like that. The question is when does that happen. I mean does it happened happened here in week one with this u._c._l._a. Team that everybody expects to be improved and rightly so or does it happen maybe when they get into conference play or something like that. We don't really know you know. I think that luke fickle obviously. Has this program going in the right direction. The defence is much much improved. He's very close with marcus freeman. They've worked together there before you know it's just a match made in heaven for that defense the thing no one's really talking about this game everyone's looking at d._r. And his potential improvement doesn't ritter was redshirt freshman last year and he came out completed over sixty two percent of his tosses twenty two five t to interception ratio who's to see this kid can improve more and they already have a really strong running game so i get it. I get the hesitation to buy in cincinnati because of some of those those flags those those you know <hes> regression red flags but i don't know man i may just wind up trusting my numbers and going against the grain here and you know maybe looking to fade the chip kelly hype a little bit yeah. I don't blame you. I mean i can understand that that fan point. I think that at some point here cincinnati is going to be a bit disappointing to someone compared to last she year because <hes> i mean it's going to be. They're not going to win as many games as they did. Last year. I fully play tougher schedule number one number two there. There's regressions on like you said. I don't know if it's gonna show up in this game and i'm not betting u._c._l._a. Two and a half to <hes> you know three and a half. I might have taken u._c._l._a. <hes> oh i think i'm just going to be watching this game and this is certainly a game that i'm really interested to watch because i think it will tell us a lot about both of these teams and very good match up here <hes> <hes> you would hope that u._c._l._a. would be improved on the offense of line. <hes> cincinnati really good skill position players on offense and a great defense so cincinnati is they're often supplying. It'd be good enough but are we gonna know after this game. I'm not sure <hes> a very good game here. You know chip. Kelly i still think is a good coach. You know we need that because i was going to be difficult and <hes> you have to think that you know. This is a match up of two really good coaches i gain. That's very exciting like i said i think it's hard to find line. I could understand if you took cincinnati's. You have <hes> the one that you do and i have three and a half and i just wanted to lean u._c._l._a. Based based on some of those regression size but now you know i see a line value. Don't wanna go against my numbers so i'm gonna pass on this one game one thirty seven thirty eight here in two lane and we got mine thoughts last thursday with brad powers and i'll echo some of them here on today's segment but you mentioned that there is a two lane coaching higher that you're pretty interested in so the floor is yours man yeah. I think you and i are gonna disagree on this game and that's good that sometimes you know because i think i agree more than we disagree. <hes> i really liked to lane and i will hold any office. Coordinator pose a son longtime successful trustful high school football coach bobby hall from mississippi <hes> his roots are in the triple option offense but he's seen as a innovator football junkie. I like what he did louisiana a couple of years ago when he helped out the memphis offense last year willie's fritzy's hall <hes> who was a quarterback in south is perfect that to help a guy. I like justin melons development at quarterback listen. I really like willie fritz. I think he's a very good coach. <hes> you know this is a team where i think we'll see. You know sixty fifty forty run pass now. That's what they wanna be. Instead of the sixty seven percent run that they were a year ago. I think two lanes offense has real upside here. <hes> you know as i look at this game in particular <hes> a lot of people i guess i you can't blame them based on the fact that butch davis on a really good job at f- i you. I think that you know these. These are two really good coaches and actually these two teams. I'd rather bet on for these are bad on <hes>. I think that long values getting a little bit to where <hes> i i would definitely lean toward to lane in this game. <hes> thing the reason it makes me like lane a bit here in this one <hes>. I think the offense is going to be a lot better than they were. Last year. Ear <hes> jalen requests. He really helpful the outside. <hes> i think mcmillan will be a good fit there in this offense. I really like the upgraded offense coordinator. <hes> <hes> offense was more explosive last year definitely <hes> than two lane. I think two lanes offense will improve more announced to think if you look at strength of schedule jill. F._l._u. played one hundred twenty eight to schedule and seventy ninth for two lane and obviously to lane glazing and more difficult than does the other thing that i lean being here is towards the over. I think he's gonna play faster than they did. Last year will hold gonna try to get them moving. <hes> you know if you look at the regression signs s. like you is plus nine in turnover margin last year to lane minus warranted ever margin the really interesting thing in this one shrinks versus drink to your f- tell us offensive line. They allowed eight sacks last year. Two lanes divine rock the forty one tax. That's what i'm going to be watching in this game. <hes> i like to lane some in this one a lot because they like their offense coordinator higher and i think they're defensive. Line is so strong <hes> so wh look what you have to say about this game as well yeah i mean i think this is one where you know and this kind of. I mean now. I can say this. I didn't mention this last thursday because we hadn't hadn't seen any action but i can say this now that i would be concerned about two lanes efficiency with that new offense here in game one new. You're learning a new scheme. It's a little bit of a modified attack compared to what you were doing last year of course the flip side of the coin. Is you know for you. You can sit there and say okay. They've had all summer to prepare for. This modified spread option type thing but also they're going to be wrinkles that they couldn't prepare for because two lane has the new offense coordinator so i you know it's it's kind kind of a give and take you know with this two lane offense in that. I think they have timing issues. I think it's one of those things where it seems to me like maybe this new often through scheme could be a little bit complex could be very technical and maybe they don't pick up on that here right away now actually playing a game and it's very good f- i you you team that i think has a higher talent level then to in certainly have fi you with the better quarterback in in james morgan who knows twenty six to seven ratio last year completed over sixty five percent of his passes. He'll move the chains. He'll get you those third down. Conversions and that's important because two lane is the type of team that can very much win the title uh-huh possession battle so i still get you in this spot. I certainly understand where you're coming from with. Two lane and you know what here's the thing the beauty of this with week one is is identify you a two point favorite their plus two. I took them on the spread and money line because of that if i'm wrong i'm lane or i don't have. I don't have enough respect for two lane. It's an easy fix. You know so. That's kind of the way that i'm looking at this game. I'm gonna trust my numbers. Trust my work over the summer and if that two lane offense does look upgraded and it certainly certainly could and i think you're on the right track so we'll just make my adjustment and that's that yeah. I think that that's fair point. <hes> <hes> the the other point that i would say that to lane certainly has a better desens- here especially rondi sense. I you know you could beat them in the passing game and if they're able to protect a quarterback maybe morgan has a big game here like i said i like the over as well haven't that anything in this game. I kind of tried to decide if i like to any better or the over over. I'm looking at that both of them but i think that's why you have the big playoff and it's <hes> they've been very good on third down in the past. I think morgan decision making is really helped them. A lot ought to lane much better stopping the ryan and i would have concerns about florida international being able to stop the run here. I think you know a team that gave up four point eight six yards parts per carry last year going up against a complex <hes> running game. That should be pretty good here this year into eight. I would think both teams have some big plays this year on offense and if two lane actually going to play faster this year than over fifty seven fifty seven and a half <hes> might not be as difficult to get to choose. You might think so another interesting like i said actually these two teams that i'd like to bet on aren't as we go through the course of the season. I want to spend a couple of minutes here. Talking about game one forty one forty two kent state and arizona state is a state twenty five point favorite total in the low sixties for this one this again that not a lot of people are gonna talk about a lot of people just going to gloss over it largely because of the big number. That's out there but he wanted. I both think that there's some intrigue to this game. Yeah i think can't can't stay for team is gonna improve quite a bit this year. You know really show up too much in the stats. I think lewis did a good job. In his first year can't state he walked into a really difficult situation -tuation <hes> pretty good fit. Their quarterback gets a second year in that system. I think can stay offense will be a good amount better than they were last year sure and the defense obviously they struggle blast to you but you knew they were going to struggle in the first year of this. You know really uptempo offense. They were eighth and tempo in the country last year arizona state with a freshman quarterback. You know pretty highly touted freshman <hes> i would think that they'll probably run quite a bit and very talented running back there so i think both teams will will be pretty good here offensively. I think that <hes> this is a fairly big number from side standpoint. I think <hes> as you and i talked about the air <hes> this is tough though toback can't stay here going down to play in the heat at arizona state. I don't think this is an ideal deals spot. I i'd like to bet on can't state this year but i don't find this the best spot to do it. Yeah i believe when i was looking at this game <hes> last week the the look ahead forecasts that are supposed to be around ninety eight or ninety nine degrees a kickoff so that's the question that i haven't and there are a handful of these weather related the game here in week one where you can't simulate heat you know you can't simulate humidity boise state going on to jacksonville. You can't really simulate those weather conditions percents of course you know they've won and covered in blowout fashion at troy and louisiana over the last three or four years so didn't really bother them. They're obviously four to state much better much more talented than those two teams but that's the thing i worry about with its. You can't stay going way out west here too. Is you know how do you prepare for that. He i mean we you you really can't you know especially that really dry type of he down in the desert so that would be my concern for anybody looking to take the twenty five. Is you know one cat that state have left in the fourth quarter where you know it's gonna be after sunset there and in tempe and it's still going to be you know ninety two ninety three degrees by the time the fourth quarter rolls around how much does kent state have left especially with that breakneck tempo they try to play at so that would be my concern for both side and total here in this one and again these are things so you have to factor in the early season non conference game so just some food for thought there for our listeners but i wanna move onto the holy war being one forty three one forty four utah b._y._u. Me why you this number anywhere from four and a half to five and a half in the market total in the upper forties and you know you and i were talking about this one a little bit in that that utah's got so much hype they're favored to win the pac twelve south a lot of people like this team lead core so i don't know might be put him out to pasture but he's got utah the college the ball playoff and b._y._u.'s taking money this week even though they've lost eight straight in this rivalry yeah i mean first of all. I was pretty bummed when i assaulted much-hyped utah getting you know with with phil steele being really really high on utah. Obviously that's gonna get a lot of other people like utah a lot. I was like being high on kyle wittingham teams that he's a excellent. It's very very good coach. Some people have gotten a little bit out of control with his height so i mean people talking about them. Having having top notch talent you know putting them in the same with some of the other top teams as far as talent you know this is not not alabama <hes> utah utah good team <hes> there's just so much hype around and right now the team seventeen nine one eight yes the last few years expectations being so high. I'm i'm really worried backing utah right now and the way i would say this is when you look at utah if they lose a game like this they they get upset <hes> where w._b._z. Then maybe we do find value on utah and in some ways that's kind of what i'm hoping because you get a game. That's really <hes> highly viewed. Ah game that's going to be seen by a ton of people and there's a lot of people watching this game and they sioux city. I think this is my favorite game to watch this week. This holy orders <hes> a great rivalry <hes>. B._y._u.'s lost a bunch of these in a row b._y._u. That twenty seven to seven with a minute left in the third quarter last year gave up twenty only eight unanswered points. <hes> b._y._u. Outgained utah handily in that game <hes>. I think that this is the spot where b._y._u. You have to be so hungry for this game and i really don't think the kyle wittingham would've wanted to play b._y._u. In the first game of the season this year given all that hype utah <hes> at this point with all the hype that's been around and they've had to hear it. You know live. They don't live in a vacuum so i worry about a utah ticket here this. This team has been hearing about how they are are all season. I think zack wilson makes this b._y._u. Often quite a bit better not amazing playmakers around oh them for sure but they are improved. I think even without <hes> talky talky and food see there on the defense b._y._u. Defense is going to be a very good again. If if you look at yards per play margin last utah was twentieth and the nation b._y._u. Was twenty eight so there wasn't that much difference in these teams utah the best that special teams in the country last year and this is the biggest ads and something you certainly want to consider when you're handicapping a college football game or n._f._l. Game for that matter better but <hes> if you look at that game last year we'll say i wanna point out that some people won't mention utah was dealing with injuries in that game so tyler huntley he's act. Moss did not play that game. That's certainly hurt them quite a bit. <hes> you know. What do i think about this game. I think that utah is a little bit better than b._y._u. I i think the gap between these two teams most people think it is <hes> eileen b._y._u. In this game so we're taking side i would take you i._u. <hes> this number here. You're not good enough for me one to wanna fire on it right now. Let's see what happens with this number. <hes> you know like i said i might look back utah in future weeks if they lose this game straight up these are both teams that i would like to be high on but utah the hype is just out of control one thing i do want to mention here real quickly and then i know there's a few games on friday here. Arizona didn't look very good week zero. Let's say cincinnati controls the gaming it's u._c._l._a. Let's say can't state. It hangs in there with arizona state and let's say b._y._u. The line movement suggests sear keeps it very close with utah or maybe even pulls the outright upset perception. It was a pack twelve is going to get pretty bad pretty quickly because these are all spotlight types of games where you know there's six s._d._s. games on thursday so everyone's paying attention the ones with the major conference teams the pac twelve teams in action here on thursday. You had arizona in a spotlight game against hawaii over the previous weekend. Perception of the pack twelve could go south in a hurry and could create some good betting opportunity on that conference. Yeah i definitely think that's true and and <hes> you know like you said there's gonna be a lot of people watching these games. The pac twelve already had one game where they looked really bad. If this becomes a team team than that will be a talking point and we'll find some teams that have some value. You're going forward the other thing. I would say about this games. I lean toward the yonder. I wish i could get a higher number. If you could get forty nine or better i might be taking the under. I don't think that's going to happen so <hes> probably will be on the sideline here but my lean still even at forty eight would be the under in both of these defense is very good. I think it will be hard to get very many big plays on offense in a game like this more than anything. I think there's going to be a really really good games really looking forward to this one all right. Let's talk about the other f._b._i. Team from utah here utah state the aggies on friday night. They gave long trip to winston based in salem to take on wake forest demon deacons three and a half point favorite here game one forty seven forty eight total has shot up like a rocket from fifty seven to highest sixty sixty three and a half out there in the offshore marketplace wake forest announced as jamie newman as the starting quarterback. I think that you're the people that that model on an individual. You'll player level do like him a little bit more than sam hartman so we'll see in the wake forest very deep at the quarterback position. The problem is they're not all that deep anywhere else yeah. I think that the head coaching matchup is interesting too. I think it's a coaching downgrade from that well to gary anderson. I know anderson had success asu utah state before unless you're an excellent top notch coach. I think it goes as well the second time. I think they often disappoint. You know guy comes back the same place especially when they've been at bigger job then comes back here. I mean let's be honest. Gary anderson didn't exactly finish his last two jobs. Well so so <hes> you know. I think this is a downgrade for utah state. They've got jordan love back on offense and one other starter on offense so last year stats. I don't mean anything to me right now. For utah state especially all sensitively whole different coaching staff <hes> none of the guys back on often enjoyed mas jordan months very good. I know the n._f._l. If l. scouts like yeah <hes> let's see what he can do without you know the same kind of talent around him having said that this fourth defense could make <hes> the utah state offense looked pretty good in this one you know wake forest <hes> has i went into defensive coordinator. He was named that right before the bowl game. Last year. They played a bit better and the ball game they gave up a lot of points but <hes> you know they were really getting chewed up on defense before that so we'll see if he's improvement as the offensive coordinator i think wakes excuse score plenty of points in this game. Utah state has a good defense and they will be very good in in conference <hes> with <hes> tip book ally and david woodward two guys that i could see <hes> n._f._l. In their future but you know here they're up against a good quarterback. They do have some weapons that wide receiver. I know they lost lost dortch but <hes> pretty good players. They're on the outside for wake fourth. I think jim i really do. He's six four sean good leader. I like jamie amy number quite a bit. <hes> you know it's not good enough on defense. I give wake forest coaching edge here but they've lost and he's done an excellent job. That's amazing pallets alerts. He doesn't have great town with this year but i think they do have more talent than they had some of the past seasons in winston salem <hes> you know wake forest was minus two and a half before announced his three and a half <hes> i would have leaned wake sports or two and a half my line on this game wake for mice three and a half and a total of sixty three so i don't see any answers here for this one. I will say utah state shrink to schedule last year one and wake forest forty second yeah. I mean my number three and a half for this one too so. I don't think i'm going to have a play. I may work for a live opportunity. Depending on how this game plays out because again going from logan utah a winston salem salem north carolina hot humid miserable not the types of conditions you get in the state of utah so maybe a wake forest second-half play 'cause i also wanna see what happens opens here with gary anderson i mean does he neuter jordan love. Does he take away what this offense did really well does. He try to run the football as we've seen it most of his stops if he takes the ball to jordan loves hand that is coaching malpractice so i really wanna see how he takes to this offense and also it's that you know really a one year explosion under matt wiles. They were good but they weren't elite like they were last year for most of his tenure so obviously looking for water and natural regression. They're they're what plus fourteen in turnover margin last year i think so that's going to be coming down as well so maybe wake forest in a live standpoint but you know as far as a full game play. I don't think i'm going to have one here. The one thing i will say i don't think it's a stretch to call dave clawson the top fifty and top twenty head coach in college football so he does have a very very strong neck for maximize talent that he has as you mentioned by the way isn't that birmingham bowl last year we did give up thirty four points but only three point nine yards per carry that memphis offense that we sang the praises about earlier on in the show so i guess we'll wait and see here what happens with that one but kind of one more game him. I wanna get to hear perdue in nevada. I know this is one that you and i kind of talked about off the air quite a bit little bit surprised to see some purdue eye movement here the tens that we're out there are now ten and a half and even a stray eleven as the boiler makers make the long trip west arena. Oh yeah and i mean i think i think you know what i mean. That's as far as where highly in this game for a team that is on the rise in all jeff brom great head coach. They've recruited well here. They lost at someone from last year. <hes> i think they're going to struggle to meet expectations and <hes> i think next year it'd be a good time to buy low on the boilermakers. Let's see but produce offense of wine a major major question mark. I mean they're going to be one of the worth offense at lines in the big ten senator learn golf as well but he's been inconsistent. I think he's very good at keeping plays. He's alive so long it playing a week line. It could be difficult there. We know rondell morrison superstar. He's tremendous. He could break one at any point purdue. You don't think they're going to be going off as they were last year. Their defense really wasn't paco blast season. They have a great defensive coordinator but they don't have great talent on defense. I think the question here is about about what do you think about us and most people got me kennedy. We're going to be the quarterback person strong quarterback here. God has a lot of that running back. I think they'll run it more than they did. Last year. They were wealth in percentage of plays that were passes last year with tigon quarterback. I think they'll look different this year especially because they're so deep running back a better offensive line nevada than they've had for the past seasons. I was thinking of that as three three five stack defense if unique to prepare for first of all they