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"andrew kaufman" Discussed on Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS
"Andrew Andrew Stop, playing games over there Andrew read the question. All right. I will read the question. It says I would like to be a millionaire my goal to be millionaire in three years. Can I make a profit of a million annually in this business or is time is what timeframe realistic And again, you're a medical clinic. Correct. Yes. I'm GonNa tell you a dirty move. It's a good move. It just feels a little dirty. Jay Walk me through the ethics of this because you're a doctor, I'll do it tub giving you the moves and Andrew Technology to the three steps. Okay. This works this works if you do it, it works, but it just party is going to go. I don't know. So here's the deal. Have you discovered the the have you been following the Cova testing guidelines have you been following these Cova testing guidelines? Yeah. And I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm just going to play audio here. This is from a doctor who's got. More degrees than than a thermometer I mean this guy is a he's rock in the free world. This guy here Dr Andrew Kaufman have you've been following his research there? Have you been following this Kim? Okay this is Dr Andrew Kaufman I'm going to queue this up. Give me just one second here. Being told Okay I'm going to go to the video is called an inconvenient Cova truth. This is on the high wire show with Dell. Big Tree I'm going to the twenty one minute marker. I am not a doctor. I'm not claiming to be a doctor I'm just playing an audio clip of a doctor who was an mit duke and Medical University of South Carolina Graduate Dr Andrew Kaufman. Who Listen to this? Here we go. Seem, confused on trying to explain what's happening. Why are we testing people? That are you know already had had no idea they had it or you know as we have discussed. Why. In with Dr Kristen's work who featured he's finding as he mapped the world is though he's Matt's brain won the top brain scientists that there appears to be fifty to eighty percent of the population based on the way his models work that can't get this illness or don't seem to be being impacted by it. It does lead to somebody's not understanding something and. Then, we get to testing right. So protesting for this and it's natural inside of some people or maybe all of us or maybe just during certain times, it would lead to you know we saw a declaration by a congressman last week on our show saying even when we do these antibody test scientists don't really even know what a positive test means. Even, tests meeting FDA's standards can be false more than half of the time especially, if the prevalence of covid nineteen in the surrounding population is low. And even would they true positive scientists are not sure even what that meets. So are you suggesting that there's a potential that this is just aren that our bodies create naturally and we are locking everybody down putting masks on them for something that just simply may exist inside of them by nature. Yes yeah. That's essentially exactly what I'm suggesting and you know when when our bodies are exposed to some kind of insult, right? Even if you just get a little less ration- There's a response, our bodies make certain antibodies. Proteins are cells mobilized to respond to make sure that you know nothing dangerous has invaded the integrity of our bodies and I think that we could simply be measuring some response like that. That's very nonspecific and there's really no way to tell what this test is measuring because if you look at the a test, it's We don't know the source of the AREN A and there's no gold standard to compare it to. So there's no known error rate and you can't calculate one. The antibody test is even less specific and the FDA in their guidance about the antibody tests said that they should not be used for diagnosis, and again I'm not going to Belabor the point but I just WanNa make sure there's a capstone thought here. Give an action plan here to run your medical facility that will work what you WanNa do is soccer moms are crazy about being tested. For anything. Yeah I don't understand that Jay. You're a chiropractor you've seen this. I know women that will do blood work. We're not talking about covert I'm just saying they want to know my deficient in zinc deficient in one of the things can be deficient in vitamin C.. Vitamin D., and so you want to do is you want to do blood work to test and find the actual deficiency and Andrew put this on the notes works every time. So. What you do is you go out there and you say we're offering either discounted or free or whatever you WANNA. Do testing to see what you're deficient in and would you agree? There Kim that if you are deficient in something for a long enough period of time and it severe enough that it could cause long-term problems. Actually do me one thing I could be deficient in the Kakaza huge problem later if I if it's not dealt with what is one thing? we see. Vitamin, D deficiency you very often and so. You're bringing your own. Things, picking on the point is though. So step one you test everybody. Okay. Step to make chart, Andrew can help you you make a chart that shows if you're deficient on this, this could happen. It's a chart you put it everywhere. You know did you know being deficient in this might cause this it's not a manipulative lying. It's true. Make It really easy color code vitamin C might be orange or something you know. And then step three after you come back you sit down with every patient you say based upon the results we have here Carl I've sat down Carl Mr Smith Mr Smith I sat down here Carl and looks like you're deficient in vitamin C and what's another one J. that the people are commonly deficient in vitamin DS, the big. What about committals people are deficient in Jay that are I. Think. And you saying, okay. So what we need to do is to get you on an auto shipped supplement regimen. I'm going to ship to you every month. And I just need you to be a good soldier take. Now you so you do that. Okay. So you got step one, you do the test testing to you make the chart. Step three, seven, auto ship it, and I want to see you..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"Whole of six hands face space and then local restrictions. If you've got them in your area his line manager at a lab today in Oxford as the office for National statistics announce that six thousand people in England per day were newly infected in the first week of September almost double the previous week. Because you can shed R&A for up to three months despite having the infection for only eight days. We are potentially following people who are red herrings you end up with this problem of false positives, you are identifying too many people you could have had the infection in the past. When you do a PCR test you basically amplify the amount of RNA you put into a DNA copy and then you exponentially double that amount of DNA and that's called the cycle threshold. And the more times you do that unless virus. He starts out with and a cycle threshold above 35 or Gentiles people who are not infectious yet NHS England documentation that has not been updated since January Ron cycle thresholds 245, which is identifying people are not infectious. Yeah. That's that's very easy to point out. That's something that people that have been saying the the gentleman we talked about that use it to test muscles agenda genetic material muscles. That's what he's saying that song. They're the threshold they're using is almost guaranteeing that they're going to have false positives yet again showing you an example of their choices there specific choices leading to know exactly where we are. Not the I mean, that's what I keep trying to lay out for you whether it's the masks or the lockdowns or any other number of choices their choices, not only didn't help but they in fact wage directly to the exacerbation of the problem. I find that almost in almost statistically impossible for every single one of their actions. In fact increasing the problem, right even with incompetence would eventually luckily get one thing right? It's very strange to me that in fact there. I mean right here, they're talking about the fact that they're they're over heightening the test and guaranteeing that they're going to get false positives and these people are the experts. I know I don't that wasn't any Andrew Kaufman by the way, so I'm not sure dr. Kaufman. Excuse me. That's the Carl Hennigan I believe and log Sure Emeritus. It's it's in the Tweet right there. The coronavirus test measures only a very tiny tiny piece of the Genome of the virus. And if he sells have killed the virus, then you have debris you have run pieces of the of the nucleic acids in your blood and everywhere. And yes, I can pick up these these rotten pieces that it looks like as if fuel infected. You're not now what's funny about? This guy's is this is something that's very very basic home in regards to this topic any expert that I've talked to or listen to or watch online have all said the basic exact same thing. So are we really going to pretend that are experts and professionals before this just did not know that Or or didn't care to ask if that's the case then why do they show specifically choose the want the the heightened number 45 in regard to the the number of cycles that intent that very clearly leads to something else positives, right? I mean, it's you cannot miss that they are choosing to give you this idea or rather give you the scenario that de specifically creates a increased illusion danger. I just I think it's just impossible not to see. The most Panic inducing principle namely than most media still speak about today has also many new infections, which is totally it's not true or the latest government figures show the highest daily number of new infections as the increase in the number of daily infections. The rate of infections are growing significant all these people the media guide. They're just a bunch of people talking head. They don't most of these people were chosen for their ability to mindlessly repeat what they're told their ability to acquiesce to Authority. Right? This this is what they're chosen for. That's why you get a Don Lemon that wanted to be in entertainment news and they chose them. They said now we're going to put you in news news, right? The kite was not want to be a newscaster. He's a he's up their act of the one we try to pretend like you trust these people and that you just don't believe they would lead you astray. They don't know what the hell they're talking about. They're regurgitating information. That's the truth and I shouldn't say that wage. In a broad sense. I'm sure there's some of them they're educated and know what they're talking about. But then that even more so should make you question why they're lying to you with what is clearly a second wave of infection about to break its natural NHS England documentation that has not been updated since January Run Cycle thresholds 245, which is identifying people who are not infectious. Now, this is a little off right it's not this is this is made I don't believe it's made it could be made by this this account. Either way. It's not again. This isn't meant to be a slam-dunk something that you share with people to convince them. Otherwise, the point them is just other experts speaking out and I'm just using this as a standpoint, you know that this is all over the place the reality that there are experts of all walks of life of it every possible field that are now opening up and telling you the reality and yet they're being censored they're being attacked. They're not allowed to speak out. How does that even logical I mean as I said in regards to the the German doctor, right? I mean and of course this is not to suggest that we should be trusting Authority or trusting the experts. Obviously. I don't think that but the argument is they are saying that you need to trust the experts because we're not smart enough to do it. How in the world can we be expected to do those things trust the experts trust them authority figures if they're arresting authority figures that go against what they're saying if they continue to censor an attack experts who have a different thing to say right really take a minute and absorb what I am saying there you could argue that they're right, but how can you actually discuss this as you have to trust the experts if the only people allowed to be seen as experts are the people who hold a very specific opinion that's called controlling the discussion that's controlling the narrative. That's alarming. I mean, that's so incredibly alarming now that it's happening. That's scary too. But that it's so obvious that they are there. This is their vinyl push as far as I can tell and Thursday. It is something that should be alarming to us. Now. Here's another example now this was on the affray or via Friday. I believe the guy's a lawyer who turned YouTuber while back now. I'm just pulling things. I'm sure we don't agree on but he does a good video on this in regard to Canada. I believe it's from Quebec. But this is the as you says right here director of Public Health and a doctor for the region of Quebec recently gave an interview in which he said some things that raised eyebrows basically talking about it says here forced quarantine and secret facilities. Basically talks about these facilities and putting you in a facility. If you're not doing what you're told and it's secret areas that they're not they don't need to devote. They don't then I'm going to tell you. We live in a world now in Canada whether openly discussing secret detention facilities. Do you ever when that was something that was the most ridiculous thing of all time if FEMA camps these things were we're literally living that right now and they're just Justified now, right even funnier is the people that used to attack those talking about the kind of FEMA camp discussions are the same people now that just still can't see the connection down there putting people in secret camps and keeping you on secret on forced quarantine whether you like it or not. You keep it like you could the Subtitles is where you want to be looking cuz it's in French. Yes. And that was going to be it now what he didn't want to say anything else. Basically, are you putting people in force quarantine without their know, you know, yes and story. know the mass Consul managed to do Carson collaborating.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS
"J. Chiropractor for. You're muted their Dr John Deere Chiropractor I can't believe you me to me I'm so sorry I didn't mean to do offend either and you're you're from a by the way I have a button for myself. Hit that button whenever I my myself or your your from Nashville? Yes. What's it like living in Nashville right now? It is not apparently good as broken arrow. So Mayor Cooper, just raise property taxes thirty, four, percent two or three weeks ago. That was awesome. We've got we don't live in Nashville we have property that's great. Mandated Masks The cops are actually downtown on Broadway. issuing citations and or warnings for people not worrying mass. Broadway's like the big touristy everyone goes when they go to Nashville. So that's happening. It's great. Really that's happening. One hundred percent happening. Yeah. So, what I want to hammer home, as you said that Mayor Craig uses discernment. Now what I found is it's easy easy easy easy to stand up for freedom and individual liberty. When things are easy. Super when it's easy when there's no. Pandemic, it's probably easier. Mayor Craig are you have you had phone calls? From people in the past that are livid about wanting to shut down the whole the whole city have you had people livid about I mean, if you ever have a squeaky wheel that calls you're on this I've had a few phone calls and a lot emails about trying to mandate certain things and trying to shut down our city when we were. When we were opening a lot of has been a lot of pushback. Yes. So talk to me about this because somebody called seventeen times in his louder than everybody else does that mean that they are more correct No No. We go by the data we basically look at the data and decide what we what's best for our citizens, and we do take input from citizens but we look at the data I and that's the most important thing is what really is happening in the world? have. You ever had a customer, a patient whose you've dealt with who was wrong but passionate about being right I mean even had some of his wrong but is squeaky there. So squeaky, you'd almost just want to give them the oil has that ever happened to you? Yes it has. It has. So unlike in your business, it's the patient's upset you can refund them correct. Even if the wrong. So the best thing to do just cut mate but I mean, it doesn't affect everybody know. However, Mayor Craig. If you make a decision to appease the one squeaky wheel, it affects everybody and it does affect everybody different different the different down a game here. Larry for people out there who are considering voting for? Mayor Craig. Give us your take on your interactions with him, and maybe why you feel like he's the kind of guy we can trust when you're in a difficult economy, a difficult world different. World where everything seems to be changing. You kind of tell us your your take on your interactions with. I think the biggest or the most important is the aspect of him processing through the decisions and making sure that it's going to. Be in the best interest of the large community, not just the the businesses, not just the people that live here but it's really the whole encompassing factor of the city what's going to be in the best interest of the city and taking that from that perspective I mean, because it's easy to say, Hey, we need to have the businesses open because there's what driving the economy but what's really the big factor in that and it's really keeping the business keeping the people healthy and Pulling, it all together, not just saying, Hey, this is what they're doing. So we're going to do it or this is what they're doing. So we're you know we're going to imply that here he's really taking a part of the each part well, like you said, the daddies evaluating the data and he's allowing us as individuals as people at the city to make those decisions that are going to benefit. US So, let's get real. Let's get into the details of the data for let's say, let's put pick on. Areas One. That's very topical. One that's maybe not as top topic for other people recently in broken Arrow believe you have finished building a bridge of some kind is this correct a bridge or a road? There was some road arose road. What role did you finish building We've finished two, hundred, nine or nine street is are we call them Brooklyn? Arrow. From fifty sixty I it was dirt and why did you finish building that repave that? So people have connections to other parts of the city and to shopping and other things. So it was real important to build that. Did. was there some people that didn't want the road to be built? Yeah. I'm sure there was quite a few people didn't want the road built it needed to be built why? Because it was a service for our community? So you looked at the greater good. How you? Yes. Okay. But somebody was upset yes someone's always upset. Someone's always yeah. Okay. But you you look at the data then you decided the greater. Good, right. Interesting now, but you could have decided. Upon what would make? What other? What other mayors have done? You could say, this is what other mayors have done there for I should do all the cool kids are doing it or you could have said I'm going to do this because I feel. A lot of pressure I'm going to do this because there's a lot of non logical way to make decisions. Let's get into this Kobe thing for a second. Luckily, our governor is making decisions now based upon facts not fear. But let's talk about this. And again, I'm not a medical expert and I'm not saying you are either. But you have these tests? That according to Andrew Kaufman. He is an MIT duke medical. University South Carolina Graduate Doctor Medical Doctor. Andrew Kaufman. Doctor Jimmy hand, Tulsa Virology expert. I can go on listing doctors and I've got it all sided here so you can see it According to these people. The ARNA tests are tests and antibody tests are all GonNa. Show a lot of cases.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on Just Between Us
"Typically female executives I just it wasn't like I never got notes. Oh. You have to make her seem more this way or you and I've talked to many women who have had to work for like news crime shows and I think most people have empathy inside inside themselves but it's almost as a thirty television shows or networks have a hard time deviating from that I've credit credit, my upbringing on HBO, and then here's the most important part is I don't edit the movie. I. Have so much by us. Your home eat ear food and look at you. I am close to you and this is you know this is very. Limited contend with people and I drop it on on the Gust of Andrew Kaufman with one of the primary editors I work, and here's doesn't know them. He doesn't know them from bugger you know what I mean like he he doesn't have carry the same biases and I you know in your tearful about what the family is. GonNa thank and you know it was very difficult but it's important work someone really really smart that high empathy but it's not going to be swayed by that and I. also work with people and you know have you know high Q. An emotional health issues mental health issues but it's like it it it. To do a lot of work to get there but I'm really really bad that that resonates for you. What is that like to kind of give over all of your work and have someone else shape the story? I love it and I mean I think that there's a lot of people like you know directors like, Stanley. Kubrick eyeballs enhancing to be an everything and I think as a documentary filmmaker my strengths are pitching on getting money talking of people getting the story, putting it out and I need a really really good editor and I will watch my last show. I watched ninety times like I was so so so at the Really depends on what the editor sort of want I..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on 600 WREC
"Dot com. I have ah, lot of very factual information. I consent to you a lot of statistics. From doctors, and so I'll just pick on one particular doctor that maybe Khun share, But Dr Hoffman is a doctor who is Ah Mitty doctor. A lot of it is very respected. Admit Duca Medical University of South Carolina graduate Andrew Kaufman. And I could send that to you and your listeners can watch that. Or Dr Jimmy Hand. The medical doctor is a friend of mine. He could play play play, play play Clay Clay, Clay Ueno there doctors out there that Feel differently about not only mask but also they feel differently about rum desert veer. They feel differently about hydroxy claure Quinn. But my point is, if you have a mask on and I've got a mask on, it adds a little bit of more protection. Now I understand the particles might get through the cloth masks and they're people think that we're just sheep marching to the beat of the drum that wants to control us by having to wear masks, But There's also some indication that you know It does help a little bit and a little bit better than nothing. Don't you see what's one foot started? If you want to wear a mask? That is totally fine. I've seen people at Wal Mart. They were unspeakable things If they weren't aware that that's fine, my main issue and I just want to make sure that everybody out there has the freedom to do what they want to do. I mean, if somebody wants to go outside and pray to Yoda, I don't think that's a good strategy. But if somebody wants to, they should be able to what I am taking issue with is we have a virus that, according to the Telegraph, others research put up on the telegraph. There's research you confined everywhere that shows we've all agreed. The CDC says that 99.2% of all the people who die from Corona virus are elderly people with deeply compromised. Immune system's so the idea that we shouldn't go back to school because we're gonna continue to hide from this virus makes zero sense. And when I boarded the plane to go out to a Washington D, C. I'm on a plane and not a single person on the plane spoke To another person because they're all wearing the masks. Right greatly is kind of weird dystopia where nobody speaks to each other. And I gotta tell you if you don't wear a mask now we're going to find you. So I thought I just want to make sure you wear a mask if you want to. If I don't want to fine. I just don't want to impose rules with fines for people that choose not to wear one. Sorry I got you now. Biden's plan for America. Good Lord. He gets elected. Help us all. Yeah, well, it's an honor to be invited by the president to a two Ah tended did the deregulation there is called the rolling back regulation briefing there on the White House lawn. And what President Trump did a great job of doing was he just laid out what Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders have promised to do so It's not his editorial. He's just reading specifically what they have put in writing..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Welcomed or guest today, Hector Baretto Hector form headed up the United States. Small Business Administration today. He's the chairman of the Latino Coalition. Thanks for waking up early with us. Do this actor thank you in our Co host Laura Collins, once again. Welcome back, Laura. She's the director in the Bush. Institute smu Economic Growth Initiative thank you. Thank Santa I. Only wake up early for this I know we. To Peel back the curtain we're here at about seven thirty in the morning in Dallas and Lauren I were comparing notes and turns out that one of us are morning. People so hector. We're looking. We're looking at you. Demand on. West Coast time. It's like five thirty in your body clock Oh. That's rough. Hector's here for our SME Economic Growth Advisory Council where he is one of them. Is that help guide the policy work that we do at the Bush Institute, because both of his expertise is the forty first administrator, the small business, and because his work with the Latino Coalition. Let's start with the former when you were with the small business administration. What was the goal of that department? What were you? You, all working on the small business. Administration was actually started in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, three by President Eisenhower and there were some small business programs before that, but they unified those all into one agency, and it's really the agency that supports and advocates for America's small businesses, and that role has become even more important over the years when they formed the SBA. There probably weren't thinking that was going to be over thirty million small businesses in the united. United States and I like to say nothing small about small business. They really are the engine of America, the engine that fuels the economy of America not only are there a lot of them, but they represent over fifty two percent of the gross output of the economy. It's the place that two-thirds the net new jobs of our economy comes from, and it's also the place that a lot of our innovation comes from. That makes us the envy of the world. World in terms of our economy so very very important agency. A lot of people have heard of it, but they oftentimes don't know everything it does. Where does your passion for Small Business? Come from a well? That's easy. I was fortunate to be born into an entrepreneurial family, so the first business owners I ever met where my mother and father and my father was especially a serial entrepreneur. He loved business. He loves starting businesses. I'm not saying he loved running. My mother ran the business ideas, man yeah, but I learned a lot about a small business I used to joke that everything I learned about business. I learned in a Mexican restaurant because that's why I worked when I was a little kid. What jobs is you? Hold with your parents Oh, a lot of them, you know we were an immigrant family and. There was five children. My mother had five children six years. I have four younger sisters, and so we were all recruited to my father's executive training program very early on, so we all had to work <hes>. I remember waiting tables when I was nine years old. So And then I. as I got older, I got more responsibility and help run some of those businesses and start some of those businesses, and my father had a number of different businesses. We started off with the restaurant business, because that's an easy business to access, but then later on <hes> at a little import export business, a little construction business, none of those businesses wherever really large, but they were very important to our family helps support us. They helped educate, and we learned a lot about being in business and working with the community and customers, and so your father came to America start these businesses. He actually didn't. My father was an immigrant to the United States in the late nineteen fifties. I don't think he was planning on staying that long. But he met my mother. My mother is also from immigrant parents from Mexico <hes> they've shown love, and and of all places they started their journey in Kansas City Missouri that's where I was born. I grew up in Kansas City Missouri and my father. He had a lot of different jobs as a lot of immigrants do when they first get here. His first jobs were picking. Picking potatoes for fifty cents an hour in rural Missouri and later on, he worked at a railroad, a literally pounding the spikes into the ground, but in the winter it got too cold, so he moved into <hes>. He started working in the livestock business, and it was very difficult. <hes> dirty work. He was cleaning out stalls, but at least it was warmer than being outside. When he was working at the railroad later on he, he was a janitor at the school that I would eventually go to, but my father used to always say that he was a business owner, and I would say dad. You have these jobs. You're not a business owners. They know what I have to do right now, but eventually alone my own business, so he was very passionate about that. He always wanted to work for himself, so he starts so then he starts these businesses and his career trajectory starts trending too so far up that start happening. Yeah, my father was a very visionary leader <hes> very. Very charismatic <hes> you know he when he's grown up used to say know. I came here with nothing I didn't know anybody. I didn't speak the language. I had no money I had no power, but I believed in myself I was willing to work hard, and this is such a great country that affords us the opportunity to go as far as we WANNA go. We're only limited by our own imagination our own commitment, so he he's. We started these businesses, but later on my father was kind of an organizer as well, and he wanted to belong to the Chamber of Commerce. This is in Kansas City. Number of others spanning businesses. There were there at the time, and my father started asking. Where's the Hispanic Chamber? And they said well. There isn't an Hispanic Chamber. My Dad said well there should be, and if nobody else is going to start it, I will so my father was one of the founders of the Kansas City Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, that was in the mid seventies,
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Highwire with Del Bigtree
"Re worked or re engineer, our society into a global system with extremely limited freedoms, and that's why they've been taking away our freedoms and telling us the only way to restore any freedom is to allow. The government to monitor our every move and every aspect of our health and our bodies integrity, and possibly an even our behavior where we go who we congregate with right, and that's not going to obviously create more freedom. It's GonNa be a device for more control and I want to add one really important thought. I think this speaks to one of your big. The biggest issue for you, which is that if there is no virus that's been proven then. What is the vaccine going to really before? That is a question that will probably keep me up tonight. Docu Andrew Kaufman. I want to thank. Time. I am I can see why so many people were asking to be on here and I hope that as this thing moves forward can have you back as we will get more details. I believe that the light is shining down. I think more more scientists. You know at one point someone saying the things that you're saying I know you're coming into some conflicts, but there are a lot of world renowned scientists. Really I think starting. Ask the right questions, so it seems to me if we all continued to demand that the science pedone. We're going GONNA. Get the Samantha's, but thank you for taking the time and thank you for joining us today. I really appreciate it. It's been a pleasure. Don't thank you so much for the opportunity. If you like that clip, it'd be sure to check out our live broadcast of the high wire. Every Thursday morning at eleven am Pacific Time. You can watch it on facebook youtube. I tunes end twitter we'll see..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"That which are basically irritants to the immune system and causes the immune system to say you know. Hey what the heck is that? You just put something really poisonous in my body. I better do something about it. And then you hope day in responding to that adjutant which aluminum is the biggest one but there are others That you get immunity also to that little innocuous particle in there that they also add which is target so the current situation with these aren. A or DNA viruses is totally different. There's no organism or fragment of an organism in this vaccine all what there is is a piece of genetic material so I looked closely at one of these technologies that came out of southern California. I can't remember the company's name but what they used as a circular piece of DNA known as a plasma noser naturally found in bacteria cells and they put in some jeans jeans from this genetic material that I told you about before that has an unknown origin And what they're gonNa do is injected into you but not in a typical way where. There's just a syringe with one needle these day after US special syringe with three needles and the middle needle injects this DNA plasmids material. And whatever else. We don't know it hasn't been disclosed yet. And then the outer two needles or electrodes a positive a negative electrode and they basically create an electric current in your muscle so under the skin and what that does is it for. The purpose of something called. Electro portion and the electric current makes little holes. Open up in the cells in your cells in your muscle and allows the DNA the circular DNA plasmids to get inside the cells and so this is a technique. They've used in a laboratory experiments. to You know learn things about different organisms right. They've tried to use gene therapy this way like you know. Let's say you have a genetic illness. Cystic fibrosis and they would try to transport the The gene that doesn't confer disease into your lungs for example and they've not been successful with it. But somehow this they think they're going to be successful with this but the idea is to get that genetic material into your cells and then your cells make the so-called viral proteins and those are anti Genyk so they stimulate your immune system to create immunity to that. So I don't really See how this is GonNa be effective because one thing is it's your own cells now making these foreign proteins so if your immune system recognizes those at foreign wasn't gonNA recognize your own cells as being far so that's one problem with the theory and then the other thing is we don't really know what is going to be honest since we. We know that the origin of the RNA from that they say from viruses is from an unknown origin. So what are the genes are going to be putting in here? And what is the purpose? So are they putting genes in there that we can assert some kind of new function for ourselves like they could be toxic to us like I really you know I. It's pure speculation. I don't know but this is a really gene therapy. It's not vaccine technology this. This is genetic manipulation at I mean the the idea. This is just horrifying to me that you're so we're talking about something that they aren't even sure about exactly what it is that they're using to make something they've never tested on people they're going to force out with in a rushed amount of time because something we don't understand antacid and they're gonNA end. They'RE GONNA their goal is to have every single person on the planet except this vaccine right that's been stated openly people like Bill Gates and many others right and and I'm I pointed this out the other day they were. This is at a point where even right now the CDC admits that there's Immuno compromised people right now that shouldn't have any vaccines but they don't factor that in those people will suffer regardless even if the vaccine works as it's supposed to and that's that's pretty crazy to me but here's an interesting question for you and this is something that was actually posed by somebody in in our discord community. That wanted to pose this question for you that I found fascinating. So they asked do vaccinations. Change your debt code. Which in this case we're talking about specifically the Arnaiz which that's what they do that's answered but and it's so does that essentially make our DNA the intellectual property of the pharmaceutical industry. Now I found this to be really interesting because we're talking about genetically modified organisms in food that have patents and we're talking about genetically altering ourselves with something that they have patents. So what do you think about that? Does that make us the property of Big Pharma? Well Yeah I mean it. Certain certainly a claim could be made for that. But you know I mean if you if you study our how. Our system works at a basic deepest levels especially the monetary system. You'd see that we're already owned absolutely. I'm glad you said that I couldn't agree more. And they're so many examples of that throughout history and a lot of different ways which we can save for a numerous other shows potentially end today. I have two questions for you. And this is kind of a two part thing. Here are combined if you will. So if the world cannot awaken to the reality that they're being fooled on numerous levels. What do you see taking place in the next year? And conversely if we're able to effectively expose the illusion what needs to change going forward well. I certainly hope that we're able to expose the illusion for everyone And I think that would be the best possible outcome. And then we be in a position where we would have to really rethink our whole society. Because if you uncover the truth about this then you have to realize that all of the governments in the world are conspiring against us. And we can't continue under their rule once we fully realized but I don't think it's very likely that everyone is GonNa become aware of this. I sort of see future where humanity will be really kind of divided into two major groups and one group is going to be the people who recognize what's going on and who take action to not participate in that future and figure out ways to make their own future which could mean like organizing a sort of separate society right like people have called Things like underground railroads right or decentralized communities and then there's going to be the people who continue to believe the main narrative and continue to voluntarily follow all requirements which are going to slowly take away more and more freedoms. I mean. It was very quickly right up front right I mean. We lost a lot of freedoms To begin with and So it's GonNa be easier for them to ask a little bit more on a little bit more in a little bit more for those people who are living cheer scared that they're gonNA die of Some imaginary virus and those people are not going to have a very good fate in the future Because I think most likely there's there's going to be a lot of death Because right now we're heading towards famine right. The food supply is not going to last forever because the distribution network has basically been reduced by massive amounts and lots of food is going to waste in those producers booed are. They're not going to produce more food until they know it can get to market and so put that on top of what's going on with everyone's financial situation that you know all the people with small businesses or jobs who are out of work. They're they're depleting if not already depleted all of their resources and their you know. I don't know what's going to happen or how they're going to make you know Get food or other supplies that they need And you know you put all this together and you got a lot of desperate people in very difficult situations and It's not GonNa go well for them. You know like people who are staying indoors all the time You know breathing poor air quality. They're not getting any sunlight I think a lot of people are probably not eating and very well or taking care of themselves. Well they probably you know eating a lot of comfort foods to feel better and spending a lot of time watching a TV in benching out and so this is a recipe for people to become ill And then you know once. They have the vaccine whatever's in that it could be lethal. It's you know we look at what's happened with other vaccines there've been a lot of Death and disease caused by back seen so I think it's very scary prospect for those people who are not able or willing to see the truth. What's happening so they can protect themselves and make a better future for themselves. And and historically speaking some of the worst so people know in almost every case every vaccine has shown to have some side effects in some cases but historically speaking the worst side effects in history in my opinion based on the evidence has come from the rushed examples during previous pandemics and yet we still can't seem to take that at face value and continue to trust people telling us they know based on clearly faulty information my opinion. I think that has to settle in with US. And all of this is basically my opinion again. Regardless of your opinion driving you and more dependent on the government the very group. That in many ways is responsible for most of the things that we're dealing with today in in a broad sense not just even this conversation and yet we're still driving being forced into more dependence on this group which should be going the opposite even if especially if we understand the core tenants of what we believe at least in the United States. This country is all about. And that's something that we really need to reflect on so thank you so much for being here today and and trying to break down for people and hopefully they will absorb some of this and hopefully people will open minded enough even if they disagree with you to consider what you're saying to read documentation about this not just it because authority figure said so so again. Thank you for being here today or anything else. You'd like to drop You know other information or your social media links before we get out of here today. Yes sure and I just want to echo that point because you know don't don't just take my word for it go ahead look at the material the Information Yourself. Make up your own mind and You know Asked me a question if you want because lots of people are doing that and I'm happy to send out information. So you can get in touch with me through my website. It's Andrew Coffman. Md DOT COM. That's one F one end and Please check out my youtube channel which may not be around too much longer. But it's there now under engines houseman and I have several presentations That you might want to look at with all the papers and references so I look forward to seeing you there. We'll I'll make sure to include all those in the show notes for everyone to check out for themselves so I really hope they will take the time to dive through it and if our shows example. That's exactly what they will do. Because it's all about forcing people into the notes and doing the research for themselves thinking for themselves. So thank you for being here again and I hope people can use this information to help us resist. What is clearly some kind of scientific elite Technocratic Society? That's being driven forward regardless again. Whatever you think that's happening so help us stop that. Thank you again. Andrew always everyone out there listening thinking question everything to your own conclusions. Stage IS I sir. Prison true News Utah.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"I don't think they really understand that. This whole pandemic is completely manufactured. But certainly you know the people at the top have the full knowledge of what the intention is you know which is seems to be to move towards a society with much much tighter controls over every thing that we are allowed to do and they seem to be using the sort of medical health related technocratic dictatorship Kind of approach to manage this. I agree completely and I would think it's fair to say that there's easily. Some people even impositions authority. That are just not in the know and fooled by what's happening but just the people know out there. I think it's clear. I haven't shied away from expressing that my opinion is clearly that there is a level people out there that are aware that they're misrepresenting story and I think based on the data in front of us. That's almost impossible to ignore. But it's I hope people out there willing to think for themselves in question this stuff and one one aspect of this whole story which is probably the easiest to pick apart right now and very much worth questioning. And that's of course how the testing is being applied even even adding to the story what we just talked about makes it even more ridiculous even within their narrative. The testing is ridiculous at this point. So T- explain for me why you see the testing obviously with what we explained. It makes it kind of clear but within the testing itself why it can't be trusted and in what ways they're being manipulated and why they're doing so yeah. Well there's so many ways but you know I just want I say that Even if you don't Are Not Ready to look at the viruses whether they exist if you're not because that's a pretty fundamental issue like it wasn't easy for me to come to my current conclusions because it's so well ingrained in us that you know that there's germs that cause disease and they're contagious and we've lived this our whole life so it's it's the hardest thing. I think to accept but if you just look at You know like like Thoug- doctors out she. For example he wrote an editorial to the New England Journal and medicine on February. Twenty eighth said that this pandemic is akin to a seasonal flu right. So if you if you trust that right and he he knows what's going on He's not going to say there's not a virus but he says something like that to the medical community but then in the White House he tells the president you know. We'll keep the lockdown going another month and another month after that and right So he definitely knows what's going on to some degree and if people just look at the mismatch right look at A. Why are they laying off healthcare workers? You know it doesn't it doesn't make sense at all so there's gotta be something else going on To explain the test is extremely misleading. Okay so first thing I would say. There's two types of tests that are available now There's the first test which was primarily used which is called a p CR or actually. Rtp CR and what that does measure genetic material notice Aurigny. And then there's an antibody test or a number of antibody tests I think we've all heard of antibody tests but we don't necessarily understand and the most important thing about these tests is that neither of them tests for a virus and they. Neither of them have been compared to attest provides which would be called the gold standard. So whenever you have a new diagnostic tests that you develop unique to test it against something to show how accurate it is. Or how much error hats and This was something that was really stressed. throughout my medical education And they even gave an example of For Pulmonary embolism that the gold standard tests and Andrew. Graham where they put die in your blood vessels and the guy can't travel beyond the blood clot and they compare this to something called. Beat you scan which is a much less invasive. You don't have to put any die or any needles in and But it's not. It's not nearly as accurate So it's used but it's not relied upon Too closely so with the tests for the covert nineteen disease. There's no gold standard for comparison. Vall so there's not even a way to calculate what the air raid is and then as I said it's not testing for the virus so the PR test is testing for genetic material that came from an impure samples. So we don't know what it is so like. I know a lot of people have interpreted what I said as that. The test is testing for Soames. But that's not I can't really say that with any certainty. It's possible that the aren a That testing for is from X. oems but since they did not purify the sample that they got that sequence from. There's really no way to know. Exactly what origins. So we're basically it's a test drive for genetic sequence from an unknown origin. Yeah and that this is something I picked up on a while back from a. I think John was one of the people writing about. This is well on the idea that essentially and if correct me if I'm wrong that this was something that was originally from In in China when this started and it was essentially scraped from or lungs and this was what was tested for and as you're saying it wasn't ultimately and as we were talking about it was never actually isolated based on their own standards and so now they're testing for whatever that thing is even though we don't as you're saying actually know what that thing was and which could have been Exxon's right. Is that what you're saying that it could have been excess owns? It could be Bacteria that live in our body could be our own noon or lung cells. Like there's so many sources that could from we just don't know and this is the frustrating part of the the trust science. Trust anything kind of way we're going today were yes. We should obviously listen to somebody who has spent their whole life working on this stuff but we should be questioning all of these things having skepticism especially from mainstream anything that seems to be trying to use political endeavors to you know they're more important than what's actually the truth at the end of the day so we should be able to question these things and yet the US these things and say this is what it is. They stand on going forward and they say if you question that will. We're going to delete your video. We're going to remove you from Youtube. I mean this is where we are today and even if those people are wrong I think we all have to admit that they have a right to question. They have a right to have opinions. And even more so on top of all of that people like yourself or or the doctor's in Bakersfield that were sensor. They have a right to speak their mind seeing as how their medical professionals. And we're in a time where that's just not not being allowed to reflect on that absolutely and you know whether whether you're a medical professional or not. I mean everybody have their own opinion. And there's really you know anybody can look at this research and make their own opinion. It might require more effort. You know like the only thing. My medical training did was give me the opportunity to read a lot of papers and learn from some scientists. Some of these principles. But they're all well articulated out there. You in fact there's even a a famous Serious I think it's from the Canadian. Public Health Journals. That tells you basically how to how to read research papers so you could read that series. I think it's four or five articles and that would be a great start and then you can start reading reading your own scientific papers if you want. But you don't really have to go to that link because if you just go to the documents from the FDA where they. They did not approve these tests by the way because to approve a diagnostic test. You have to actually studies and comparative a Gold Standard and have an unknown error rate in order to get a test approved right. It's not that easy you even though the. Fda is easy overall. It's still you know you have to have all this data and so it takes time. These tests were rushed to market in super fast time and they got what's called an authorization from the young and that could easily be misinterpreted as approval. But it's a totally different thing. It's only because they have declared it. You know a public health crisis and so now. They can authorize something for emergency purposes. But if you just look at the FDA's language in there. They say straight out that they don't really know what this test to measure that I mean it's right right in there in plain English. You know they say it may possibly attached this right. That's because think about the consequences of having a positive test you know if you're in the hospital and you have a positive test they're gonNa put you on a ventilator right if you're in the community and have positive tests they might separate you from your family or require you to stay at home. You know even more on lockdown than normal so and you know they're going to put your name in a database as well So there's there's big consequences for this test. That is totally inaccurate. And we don't really know what it's measuring whatsoever and even based on their own admissions. We've seen numerous times coming at him. In the mainstream media will this is showing to be wildly inaccurate even up to eighty percent. I mean it's it's it's and yet they're still forcing this down our throats and that's what's so even as you mentioned the ventilator not upon actually not even attended the idea that they're putting people on these ventilators which then killing way more people than that should be happening and yet they just keep doing it. It's just mindlessly. Following of what they're told and no one's really thinking critically about it and you mentioned the idea of all of the responses and ultimately the way that people are being treated because of all this and the government response to all of this is a huge part of this for me that I keep really trying to show people regardless of whether you whatever your stances whatever you think. This is real foot fate. Whatever that they're lying that it's hyped it. It's you know lesson. We have to see what the government is doing in response to all this is pretty horrifying and based on what? We're talking about today wildly unnecessary. So let's talk about at least one of those responses which is going to be. I would argue the driving point to this whole thing which is going to be these vaccines that are rushed out which we just talked about is pretty alarming especially seeing as how vaccines have never been tested on human beings before so can you touch on what that is essentially and what the long-term on sequences might be something like that. Yeah absolutely well. We're already in a situation right where we know vaccines are causing a lot of damage for people and there's actually You know I'm not going to go into this detail here because we don't have time but there's really no evidence that vaccines have prevented anyone from getting any disease. So there's another purpose once again It's quite interesting that the vaccines were developed so rapidly because generally speaking it takes years to develop a new vaccine and if you look at what's in the pipeline. There's actually quite a number of new vaccines in the pipeline. And you know. They've tried to make vaccine for Corona virus before have not been successful so you know how could they just suddenly have a vaccine ready to go within days or weeks and already habitant tested? Then you as you pointed out there using a very different Technology than they've used in the past vaccine so typically what vaccine? At least what. They say it's supposed to be would be actually a a virus that's either alive but disabled so it can't cause an infection if that's possible or it would be A dead vaccine or it would be fragments. I'm sorry a dead virus or fragments of a virus and that would basically be you know the chemicals that would induce a so-called immune response in our body and confirm unity and then they would add What they call events to.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"It had six components when it actually didn't have that many and then they claim to prove it by referencing other articles and saying that they did experiments themselves to prove south four five and six criteria. But when I scrutinize that I found that actually they didn't really prove one criteria Definitively out of the six In the most important one is been universally proposed in every rule that I've seen which is that you have to isolate the virus From the sick person. And that's I've not seen that be done for any virus that I've looked at and I've been in touch with several other researchers who have been looking at this. I mean many others including some barral gist and other. Md's and they also have not found any evidence for any virus being proven to exist and even the German Supreme Court ruled on this because one of those were allergists Dr Stepped in Laka from Germany. He put out a challenge. That if anyone can prove that the measles virus exists that he would pay a hundred thousand dollars and somebody. Several people challenged him but of course they didn't meet his criteria which were not impossible to meet. They were very reasonable. So what happened is someone sued him. Because they thought they met the criteria and didn't believed his rejection and and it actually went up to the German Supreme Court and so the German Supreme Court had to get experts from the Robert Coke Institute which is quite ironic because that's like their CDC in Germany and it's named after Robert Coke who is given credit for putting these rules out in the first place so they had to have scientists from there basically testify in court that they didn't satisfy the rules of proving the existence of measles so the German supreme court ruled that measles does not exist. That's really fascinating. I'd never knew that. And this is. It's amazing that these things can exist and yet they're not bald discussion of these things today when people challenge them so so in regard to isolation this is really interesting. Because there's a huge argument about this on the surface level discussion where it's a matter of fact that we isolated this there and this is so basically what you're saying for those that simple. Simplify it down for some people out there that this is essentially. You have coach postulate with which they're supposed to be adhering to and they couldn't so they just change the rules and applied something different and yet aren't meeting any of those things and yet they're still pretending they're isolated so has it been isolated or did they just kind of tweak things to say that they did. Yeah the well. It's it's quite amazing. Because even in the title of these papers they put the word isolate right but isolate me and simply to separate from other things. They never separated whatever. They're calling a virus from the other things so they didn't do any isolation I mean I don't know how they get away with saying this I don't know how the journals publish it But didn't do anything close to isolating that. I hope people can really digest that. Because that's a huge part of this discussion today and that's that's being heralded as well. We know it's this so going forward which is kind of what you're saying is that we're starting at a false premise. Which then everything else. Following his is wrong. And I think that's really interesting in this discussion and really speaks to the dishonesty of the scientific and medical community around all this or possibly in a Lotta ways that they were the ones. That were deceived right. So it's like there's a huge manipulation going on here and a part of that as you've mentioned a lot. Is this topic about excellence. Which I'm really interested to hear about it. I know a lot of people want to understand this fully. You did a really really good job on the recent interview. In my opinion a great explanation of it on London real so again if you could briefly if possible go over the main points of what experts on is and how it is the next Assam can be what we are seeing today or rather what's being the real culprit innocence behind that or if you can elaborate on. Why am wrong in what I'm saying? No I don't think you're wrong. I think you understand it. Pretty well so what an Xm is is. It's basically a small vesicles kind of like you could imagine a tiny little water balloon that pinches off Of our own cells in fact every cell in our body makes X. owns and every cell of every man Mammal makes oems at least There's possibly plances well and what they They're secreted at like a basil rate. All the time like so. We're sitting calmly now. We're still making some extra soames. But when something goes wrong they crank up the volume and put them out. It's called induction exercise and that can happen with a number of things like Any acute infection Exposure to ionizing radiation exposure to various types of toxins including antibiotics heavy metals pesticides. Other things like that even psychological shock can cause us to induce exit soames and according to the and by the way they were discovered only about thirty years ago as distinct from viruses but They thought principally provide communication like long distance communication so like cells right next to each other have ways communicating but they can't communicate to other parts of the body so there's like each excess. Oh has on its membrane? It has a A key mechanism called the receptor and that interacts with locking mechanism on the target cell. In your body somewhere so it could be in the immune system. It could be in the bone marrow to be kidneys right wherever at sending a message to so it can't move on. Its own just like They say about viruses. So it moves passively In the body fluids in the blood and then when it gets to its target in that Locke finds the right key or the key finds a write lock then it can Insert its genetic material into that target cell and that contains the Information. It's communicating now. There's another role exits owns. That's also been uncovered experimentally. Which is that in the extra cellular space so outside themselves. After it secreted it can actually take up toxic materials and this was demonstrated when it was exposed to a bacterial culture. That was secreting Endotoxin bacteria has various types of toxins. Right that's what causes Food poisoning for example and that that endotoxin will bore little holes into cell and then it will leak out. It's dense die. So when they mixed cells that were expressing exit soames with the bacterial culture. They show that the exit soames actually took up the endotoxins and the cell survived when they mix those back that bacterial culture with cells were not expressing exit soames. Those cells died from exposure to the endotoxin so this demonstrates in this was done in a petri dish so not in our bodies but it certainly demonstrates the potential that exit soames could actually be involved in removing toxins from our body So that they can't damage ourselves so these excess homes have been studied and many of the scientists in this kind of an overlap with virology Because they look so similar You know virtually indistinguishable under the microscope. And they've been found to actually contain the same genetic material that has been attributed to viruses so in other words they have exit soames that have a combination of human as well as what they would call quote unquote viral. Dna or inning. Okay so this suggests A huge overlap because they are made by ourselves so they get the genetic material from our nucleus or from our Maya Contra and that means that the same genetic material that they're saying from viruses is actually in our nucleus and in our model country otherwise it couldn't get in the exit soames so one could reason actually that viruses and exit. Soames may actually be the same thing and they may Serve to exchange genetic material to alert different parts of our body or perhaps they can even be transmitted between people to send messages about the changing environmental conditions. Wow that's interesting so this really speaks to the larger idea like the fundamental misunderstanding of what these things are. That's really interesting in that which explain quite a bit today and it goes back historically as well if you want me to be one of my next questions and we can just go to that next. I mean so could could pass outbreaks or pandemics have been ex owns mistaken for viruses. Yeah well I mean the XM REMEMBER. It's not a cause of an illness. It's a response to some kind of illness so it actually you can think about it as a collaborator. A partner with our immune system and they've even found exit soames at that interact with our immune system to provide information. So it's kind of part of our defenses against a disease probably mostly against toxic materials But at the beginning when they first Saw this particles under the microscope. They already were looking for a virus. Because germ theory was Kinda based on the observation that when they looked at diseased tissue in like things like you know strep throat or pneumonia They would find bacteria at the site of disease so they blamed those bacteria for causing the disease Even though that may not be the case but they noticed there were some diseases like polio. For example where there was no bacteria present so they postulated that there was an unseen agent infectious agents in other words some kind of invasive germ that causes the disease but they just couldn't see it with their existing technology and then once they saw particles under the electron microscope. And you know when this technology came out they were Kinda you know watering a mouth-watering at the at the chance that they might see something and so they saw these particles and they just set up. There's the virus that causes the disease. Right they didn't say I wonder what that is. Let's let's figure this out like a like a true scientists work and they did describe in the literature of that time. A lot of problems. Identifying what is virus particle versus? What is A kind of a loose term called extra cellular debris and when we have Cells that are exposed to some kind of toxin they undergo you know cell damage. And so sometimes there's this debris that they either secrete or sometimes the sells himself undergo necrosis where they die and bits and fragments of them. Break Off. Sometimes they undergo. What's called programmed cell death or apoptosis and that also fragments into little blurbs. That can sometimes get the same appearance so they often had a variety of these types of particles under the microscope and it was really difficult to know. What's what and I think what what most likely happened is that they were actually seeing action soames the whole time and they mislabeled those as virus particles and then that's why they were never able to prove Cokes postulates a reverse criteria. Because basically there was no such thing that was causing disease. The diseases were caused by other Fit other origins and this was just a response. So that's why you would find it and people with a disease because it's our natural response to any illness. Okay very interesting. So essentially we're talking about outside influence things that people have already probably thought about. You already mentioned things like radiation outside factors causing these things and they're being misdiagnosed as something. So essentially it's it could be any number of factors are pollution. Our overuse of yes I I. This is really something. It's frustrating. That people can't consider these kinds of alternatives. So so what somebody might want to ask them is so then. How is it that these from core level of our authorities haven use the word but your thirties or medical government officials are? Is this a intentional? In your eyes as you can see it playing out and intentional misrepresentative herbs and Tation what they've seen or are they just being fooled in this misunderstanding. Of what these things are. I know that's an opinion but based on what you're seeing how it's playing out. Yeah well no I mean I can definitely answer that and you know all of these organizations right like the World Health Organization or the United States government various agencies. They all have this pyramidal hierarchical structure right and so it's very compartmentalized Laterally and of all the people working at the lower levels you know each level up right more people. They know a little bit more about what's going on with the overall plan but it's only at the very very top that they really understand everything that's going on and think about the military is like this right. You have Like the private at the bottom and they're just giving orders. They have no idea what the mission is right. And then you might have the The Battalion Commander Right. Who knows what the mission is for? Several regiments under there Leadership but they stay may not know what the overall plan is for the whole conflict right. And then even the general May Not actually know everything about what? The real purpose of the engagement is and someone who is telling them what to do. Maybe the person in the know and so you have the same thing going on right now and it's true in medical establishments it's true in the government agencies right all the way up so most of the people who are just kind of going along and following orders. I don't think they really understand that. This whole pandemic is completely manufactured. But certainly you know the people at the top have the full knowledge.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"You know in that case would be a mixture of those bacteria cells and and the bacteria particles which are what they call a A virus and bacteria and they filter it and filtering is a very powerful way to purify the virus particles because there's so much smaller than the cells so for example They say that virus particle is on the order of one hundred nanometers And that's a billionth of a meter. One nanometer so very very tiny cells are much much larger so by putting it through a filter which just has tiny pore sizes that only small things can fit through. You can separate it from the rest themselves. And then once you have purified you can then characterize it In other words look at what the chemical composition or the structure of it is and then you can extract any genetic material and characterize when they've done the experiments claiming to isolate the SARS code to virus. Which is the name of the virus that they say is associated with cove nineteen disease. They don't follow that procedure at all. They in fact don't purify any virus particle during the entire experimental procedure. And you know this is a fundamental principle of science that if you want to measure a variable you have to separate variables from the other ones right so you design experiments specifically where you separate that one variable. There's another Principle of research that they don't do called a control so you always have control so that you know that whatever you're measuring is not present in the control so it's like a negative sample so in order to show that there's a virus particle in these experiments. What they do is they take the fluid from the patient which has mixture of a bunch of things. Right it's just long fluids so it's got you know sputum. It's got different kinds of cells. It's got netted material. Bacteria cells human long sows immune cells and they mix it with a foreign cell culture usually Like a monkey kidney cells and they incubate that and grown in culture and they also add antibiotics to that and then after they grow it for several days or a week or more they look at it under the microscope when they see little particles but the thing is we don't know the source of those particles at all and we know that when you mix cells in a culture with antibiotics that they make excess oems and extra soames. I can explain what they are more detailed but they basically look the same. As virus. Particles are alleged to look so when they look under the microscope. How do they know if they're seeing the exit soames which you know we're going to be there or something else which they're calling a virus so if they just did a simple control experiment where they had the same cells with antibiotics but didn't add the lung fluid to it? That would be the control experiment and then they can show pictures of that and show the particles there and see how they look different from. What a calling the virus particles. But they've never done that and I suspect the reason is because they would show the same exact particles in that experiment and then they would say. Oh well we didn't find a virus and that's not what they wanna say because the way you get famous as a scientists in the way you get more grants is that you write a paper which says you isolated a virus at very interesting. I had not from sh If I'm not sure if you're familiar with John Roberts work to writing about a lot of this stuff. And he said something in another vein of botany idea that they're not doing what they're supposed to that they'll ultimately be able to show to some degree that there is a certain amount of it but not be able to tell whether or not there's enough of it to suggest that someone is infected as well as the discussion and the people many people have mentioned cokes postulates in the same idea that they're not fulfilling that part of the scientific standards ultimately. There's a lot of things we can see here that they're just not doing the way that they're supposed to which I think is very suspicious to start off in general but before I get to some other questions so on what you're saying. Which is really fascinating. Are you saying that? In in general sense that they're the best is not a virus or that there is that viruses don't exist because I'm really interested in that because I see a lot of really educated well researched people out there suggesting that we just don't understand what viruses are in general. So is that where that is essentially. Well I think one is important to separate out. What is the proof of the existence of the virus versus how they do the testing? Because what you were mentioning about John. Roberts comment has to do with the testing and that assumes that they already have a virus and then they can you know say well how much of it is in your body. Is it enough that to tell us that? There's active disease or not but that's not really very important if there's never been a virus Proven to exist in the first place. So I've looked back to many papers of Prior Corona viruses and I've looked back at many other papers claiming isolate other buyers. And you know it's important to mention that cokes postulates right which was put forth by the germ theory scientists so basically the same scientists. That are doing this research. They came up with the rules and what they found was that once they coke specialists existed before they ever saw something that they call the virus under the microscope because electron microscopes weren't invented till the late twenties in that. It wasn't until the thirties that they saw these particles that they call viruses and what they realized that they were unable to satisfy cokes postulates for any virus so this prominent virologist named Thomas Rivers Wrote a paper in nineteen thirty seven. Basically saying we can't really do this successfully. So here's a shortcut and and made the criteria user easier and that's Sometimes called the rivers criteria and in a paper in two thousand three For the SARS cope one virus which is supposedly related to the current viruses as an ancestor of sorts. And they say that that was responsible for the SARS outbreak in two thousand three which only killed eight hundred people They claimed that they satisfied. Cokes postulates in that paper in two thousand three four. The SARS Cov one virus and then it's funny because they use the word coke postulates in the title but then right in the article. They said that they use rivers criteria. Which is not the same And they also misinterpreted rivers criteria Saying that it had six components when it actually didn't have that many and then they claim to prove it by referencing other articles and saying that.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Last American Vagabond
"Welcome to the last American vagabond. I have a very special guest joining me today. Someone that many of you have probably already seen talking to a lot of different independent media out there trying to get the reality as he sees it out about. What's going on in this corona virus event? Someone who is an expert in his field someone who has a long obvious history of academics and education around these kind of things someone was saying the opposite would be heralded as an expert by the mainstream media. So it's odd that today he's being shut down all across the board. And that is of course Dr Andy Kaufman Joining me today. Yeah thanks for having Me Ryan. I'm sure a lot of people out. There are very familiar with with your background. Your work You know you've done a lot of different interviews so today I really want to try to get to the crux. The core of of what it is that you see around all of this in a way. That's very easily digestible for a lot of people out there because as you know this stuff can be very confusing especially for just the average layperson. So let's start off with a very basic broad question again. I'm sure all people out there watch this also might perspectives so really broadly. Is there a Cova? Nineteen to start off the show. Today I would say no. There's there's definitely not a virus and there's not a new disease so please elaborate on that so in regards to not being a virus right so let's start there right. So can you explain for people what that means especially those out there? That are probably already turning the channel off because that's been said even though that's quite ridiculous we should be open minded so please elaborate for me. Yeah sure well there's You know a specific way that you need to design experiment in order to be to show that there's a virus that exists and You know it's been done that. Several times in lower organisms like bacteria or algae where they found what they call viruses. Interestingly those are not actually thought to cause harm to those organisms but may actually be a way to help their survival when they're in a difficult environment like under a lot of stress But through those experiments you can see that You can basically take The source of the virus which.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Americans everywhere are finding ways to help their communities during the Krahn virus pandemic and problem solvers like on her Jane Patrick Brandt or even forming partnerships across industries on the fly to deliver solutions quickly like they did with get shift done which payers suddenly out of work hospitality workers with nonprofits who have lost their volunteer workforce as explains on. Saturday that week about three weeks ago. Patrick called me up and we were talking about Australia. Workers being laid off and being disproportionately it. And that's where we have on the idea. What if we take these hostages workers pay them some age and have them work at the Food Bank or other traffic dis to help people do do basically have people that know food to help people that need food and as Patrick notes? There's no reason why we can't keep this spirit of cooperation going. Even when do return to normal I think it with. We can harness more of this type of work when you know things are at crisis level it. Just it's amazing. How many more people might not be hungry or how many more people might have a job? Where the hell health care more available. And it's just we sometimes have these forcing functions like we do right now and I think that when this settles. It's really important. That we you know we rethink how we approach things. We'll talk about the problem solving mentality and here honoring Patrick Story. I'm Andrew Kaufman and this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush Presidential Center..
Dana Perino on Developing Her Own Voice
"After spending seven years in the Bush administration rising to press secretary Dana Perino had become comfortable speaking speaking on behalf of others including the forty third president but she transitioned into roles on Fox News after the White House Dana develop her own voice who cared what I thought I could tell you what President Bush thought and why he thought that are how we got to that decision and I was very comfortable in that role on the first episode of Season Season Two of the strategic wrist Dana Talks about how she always remembers to focus on the good news how she deals with social media trolls and how her career in country music is progressing. I'm Andrew Kaufman and this strategic presented by the George Bush Institute what happens when you cross the forty third president late night sketch comedy and compelling conversation. The strategic has a podcast born from the word strategically which was coined by the now and embraced by the George Bush administration station we highlight the Americans feared of leadership and compassion through thought provoking conversations and we're reminded that the most effective leaders are the ones who laughed. We're joined for today's episode by Dana Perino former White House press secretary and now Fox News Co host the five host of the daily briefing Dana Perino podcast co host of I'll tell you what she's a bestselling author so you're pretty busy. Thank you for taking the the time to do this. This honored to be here. I I love coming here to the Bush Center. It's whenever you step in that front door. It's like wow this place is beautiful. Thank you for saying that and doing such great work thank Q. and our co host is Hannah Avni your friend and VP of external affairs. She's back again Hannah. Thank you for doing it again. Thank you for having me again Andrew so Dana you so you recently you're now we're recording artist as well. Gaza May dierks dirks a Dirks Bentley superfan right. I yeah superfan Fan. Also I get to call him a friend now to happens if you stock long enough so. Do you think he's going to invite you to be on a song the backup side when you have a number one song in the world. It's kind of like you. I don't need to really do it again. I don't think but it's pretty funny when I worked at the White House. Well let me go way back when I I was in college and I thought I wanted to go into media back then if you wanted to get into TV you had to start in radio and I didn't want to have to do my radio experience after right graduated so I got a job part time job as a country music. Dj working overnight and Pueblo Colorado and I ah I didn't really I had grown up in the West but I had really listen to country music when I was a teenager I didn't really do that so I was completely out of it I I I introduced the first night a song by Tracy Lawrence and I said and here she is with their new Song Tracy Lawrence and then of course raises Lawrence's a man uh-huh tricky. I we have to do so fast forward and during the years at the White House. I don't think I listen to any music back at all. I didn't even have an IPOD when we left. That was the technology at the time I had nothing I listen to. NPR or whatever else was happening rush limbaugh or something so Kakitumba on the news and so when I left the White House or when we all left the White House I got an ipod I guess it was and I used to travel back and forth to to New York a lot and I just started downloading country music and Dirk Bentley Song Come. A little closer was out at the time China so that's how we became a fan. Would you like to sing a little bit of but I do have the worst voice but the other thing you're talking about is I don't I'm blessed with having lots of ideas and not a lot of time to execute however so in two thousand sixteen the five went on a bus trip to go conventions. RNC Indian say and at one point in the back of the bus Greg Gut failed and I were sitting there and he was making me laugh so hard because he was just making up nonsense country songs about the five about Fox News about everything and he just had me giggling so much and I said we should should go to Nashville and record a song about the five and record it with a real recording artists and then release it for charity so three years later it came true. We have a wonderful executive producer of the five called Megan Albano. She figured it out we teamed up John Rich from big and rich who is a wonderful person big fan of forty three's as well and we went to Nashville and in one take he's saying the song that we sang the backup part. It's called Oh shut up about politics and it's not about shutting any particular person up. It was just about how politics has entered into everything sports music music theater technology. Everything's just too much and so we have a song called shut up about politics. We released it and within two hours it was number one on the country charts and then and that whole weekend it was number one in the world bigger than Lady Gaga Justin Bieber it was astounding. It's amazing it was amazing and all the proceeds go to folds of honor so we're pretty proud of it. Ninety nine cents you can download it on full. Honor does great work. We've done incredible work. We're familiar with there were pretty well and they're just such great such a great organization. That was pretty fun fun. I have a question for you off of that. Though I mean you're right politics is in absolutely everything you cannot get away from it and we talk about that a lot too. I mean even when you're going through Instagram instagram stories. It's just permeates every bit of it. It's in your life obviously multiple times a day. How do you get away from politics and focus on the thing? I feel a little a lot better than I did even from a few years ago because I've really embodied this idea that politics is what I do. It is not who I am and I have carved off my weekends and my evenings when I'm not working but but I don't go to dinner to talk about politics with people unless I agree with them now. That's GonNa sound like Oh that's not very fair and balanced view but I argue all day long and so in my personal life I pretty much. Don't I have a rule that I wrote about in the in the Jasper book which is no politics at the dog park. You're that's a safe place for me and if and even people that WanNa talk to me about politics at the Dog Park Mike Sorry I don't talk politics at the dog park. I have a policy and then laugh about it and they move on and I also carry a lot less about social media than I did. In Two thousand sixteen. I was really attacked by the Russians. Even though I didn't know as Russians at the time I remember actually coming here to the Bush Center right before the two thousand sixteen election. I can't remember what I was doing and AH chance to see President Bush and he's how you doing and I told him I had the worst professional summer of my life you know being attack and I was really kind of in the fetal position under my desk and even like my husband would say how can I help you. There's there's nothing you can do and it gave me a big appreciation for what parents are going through when their children are consumed assumed with their phone because you don't know what's being said and it's so demoralizing I was a grown woman. I've been the White House press secretary. How could this affect me so much and and I remember President Bush saying? Why didn't you call me like a really imagine if I had called President Bush and said Sir people are being really mean to me on twitter he would have said get off twitter on it solved this one's easy and actually it is easy so once you step away from from it or somebody gave me a tip to only have mentioned from people that you follow and Eric Schmidt of Google actually pulled me aside at one point in two thousand seventeen as I was explaining what it was like to be one of the people that was targeted by these Russian boots but I didn't know they were rushing at the time I just said it's overwhelming and he pulled me aside Dana? These are not real people and you explain to me how the whole system worked in Saint Petersburg and I don't know that just gave me an ability to say it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter no so I it's weird to say that as much as politics permeating everything for me. It's probably less a part of my life than in the previous elections that I've covered for Fox. Was it similar to how you regrouped. After you left the White House taking a breath stepping away from it no not really I mean I remember the day that we'd left Andrews Air Force Base and Peter and I left to go on the trip to Africa. I leaned my head back against is the seat and I said nothing I do for the rest of my life will ever be that important or that hard and it's really true when I make a comment now. I'm not gotTA START A war. I also have a great appreciation for what public servants go through and I want to support deport them. No matter what party they're from if you're willing to put your self out there and run for office and try to do the right thing I try to be supportive. Okay talk to us about mercyships touch. You talked about a little bit when you left the West so interesting about mercy ships. There's actually a Bush connection there too okay so obviously President Bush and Mrs Bush were amazing leaders. When it came to Africa I I got to go to Africa with them? In February of two thousand eight and in typical forty-three fashion we did five countries in seven days. I got my first migraine. I couldn't even go to the Kigali event because I had to stay on the plane and two liters of fluid into my arm and so I didn't get to go to the and and I've been sad about not making it to Rwanda ever since given the statistics about pep far so many times at the podium that I thought I understood Africa and then I was just totally blown away when I went there and I came back and I said Peter we need to go for six months after the White House and he said how about six weeks so we did six weeks compromise and yeah so we did a pet farsight that's on in Fishhook South Africa and Peter and I just had this confusing time and that did help us reset our priorities and our hearts and to reconnect as a couple as well because we're so blessed here in America and you can get caught up in what about me. What am I gonNa do to the White House and just being able to have a bigger world view? After I left was great great fast forward mercy ships asked me through my speakers bureau if I would come to Dallas and moderate a conversation between the president and Mrs Bush in front of their dinner group so I said well sure that sounds great so peter and I were coming down here now prior to that I had join the one campaigns women advisory board and I had gone to several countries with them. I had also been on the Broadcasting Board of Governors under President Obama and I'd gone to Africa on behalf of of that organization as well trying to increase the amount of content of for women in particular and Africa because we found that men will definitely listen to the radio for news in sports but women will listen if it's about health and their kids so anyway it's just little bit of an effort to do that so at the dinner right before the Q. One eight with the president and Mrs Bush. I'm sitting there and somebody says well. Why did you get interested in Africa so I'm telling him than soul story that I'm telling you and then I I said just a few months ago I got to go to Sierra Leone and I went to this place called the Aberdeen Clinic and it was started by Scottish heiress us and it's so amazing they were doing fistula surgeries there and the day I was there? They were teaching the women there how to count to ten and the lady next to me said Oh she's not a Scottish heiress. Her name is Ann Gloag and she's sitting right behind you. This is a self made businesswoman in Scotland who was a burn unit nurse for twenty years but then she and her brothers started a bussing service in the UK when Margaret Thatcher deregulated the transportation sector and they became very successful and as the company expanded she took Africa and and when she got there she said this will never do so she started doing all of this philanthropy there and that's how I ended up talking to her and I said to Peter we have to go see mercy mercy ships for ourselves so that's how we got involved and it's a surgical hospital ship they do the West Coast of Africa that night they were kicking off a capital campaign for a brand new ship because they I usually retrofit and old ship and
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Dr Robert Gates served under eight presidents during his career of public service making history that twenty second secretary of defense, spanning the presidencies of both George W Bush and Barack Obama, that made him the first secretary of defense to serve under two presidents from different political parties. We take a look at a few of the lessons. He learned that they're prepared him to lead the US military. So that taught me a lot of. A lot about how you make change and how you how you lead people because very often even people work for you, if they don't want to do what you're asking. It can be a pretty steep climb. He tells us about his time in the cabinet, and as an Aggie when he was president of Texas, A, and M university, and even tells us which presidents influenced him the most, I'm Andrew Kaufman, and this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush institute. What happens when he crossed the forty third president late night, sketch comedy, and compelling conversation, the strategic podcast from the word strategically, which was planned by the now, in by the George W Bush administration, we highlight the Americans feared of leadership, and compassion through thought, provoking conversations and we're reminded that the most effective leaders are the ones who laughed. All right. Well straight from the main stage at the forum on leadership where he just had a really compelling. An in depth conversation with President Bush on the responsibilities of global citizenship were honored to have a man who's worked in eight presidential.
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Native plants in life is a business owner and don't worry. He's got some gardening tips to I'm told that even I can grow mitt. I'm your host Andrew Kaufman. And this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush institute. What happens when he crossed the forty third president late night, sketch, comedy and compelling conversation. This strategic has a podcast born from the word strategically which was coined by SNL and embraced by the George W Bush administration. We highlight the American spirit of leadership and compassion through thought provoking conversations. And we're reminded that the most effective leaders are the ones who laugh. Well, I am very excited to welcome James farmer to the show James. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you Andrew for having me. So James, you're one of the featured speakers at the inaugural forum on leadership at the Bush center last year alongside people like Bondo and secretary Condoleeza Rice and Jeff Bezos. But when the dust had settled in the days after the event, the buzz around, the Bush, center offices was on gardening and conservation and James farmer. Yeah. Really must not have anything else to talk about. But I'm flattered. Thanks. Well, you had a great session, and we want to continue that conversation here today. But before we get into gardening tips. And we will get to gardening tips for all you aspiring green thumbs up there. We wanna start at a broader level. Why is it important that cities both big and small find ways to create beautiful green spaces and community gardens? Well, I don't think the size of the city really matters. But the size of the Greenspace is what really truly affects us. So you use my hometown. Which is Harry, Georgia us, Dallas, New York. No matter what a green space truly effects us. And in that sense. I always refer back to what my grandmother taught about when when she was setting table. And that was we eat with our eyes. I and so anyone who talks to me knows that this is the mantra that I live by you know, before we take that first bite. There's a visual feast. So it may be tomato sandwich. But that tomatoes started somewhere. So it's looking out and seeing some kind. Kind of of greenery that that starts that starts fees that starts the meal that starts the event. So in a city, especially where you have a lot of hard scape. It's so nice and refreshing to have a place of rejuvenation. That's green. And that could be a pot on your balcony has cement and always tell people if you can't grow pot a mint. Well, I don't know if we even have hope, but the pot of men what it is at my be Bandra. I guarantee you I can get you to grow cement. But what I love about that is this you look outside, and if you're surrounded by harder things you concrete steel glass things like that the softening aspect that that visual feasts that eating with our eyes versa. Green provides really starts working on our psyche. And a very good way. And to look at that, you know, pot of mint or could be basil or some other herb to look at that pot Amon and thing you know, what I can just look at that. Immediately blood pressure goes down. I can think of all the studies and think about hospitals. Nursing and rehabilitation places that were green really is so important in those places. So it's just as important of big city think about that sprig of met I could put it in some warranty. And I've got a delicious beverage, I could take it. And hey, it make it even more of a libation or spirited beverage. I commend julep or that pot of basil. You could take just that one leaf and put it with that tomato sandwich. And maybe you've grown that tomato too. So there's a there's a whole cascading effect of how green really affects our psyche on a small level like a like a little small pot. But think about what it does when it gets grown into a larger area like a park and how a park were a strip of wildflowers between the north and southbound lanes of interstate or maybe it's just the the preservation of of some native trees or grasses it allows our eyes to see a arrest arrests that and it starts rejuvenating..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Never thought about being pilot. But always thought about being a bird because I was so tired of this world, this walence this war like all women under Taliban rule, she was forbidden from attending school working or showing her face in public. But her story is one of courage is she became the first female fighter pilot in the Afghan military after the fall of the Taliban in two thousand one. She tells us that story next. I'm your host to Andrew Kaufman. And this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush institute. What happens when you crossed the forty third president late night, sketch, comedy and compelling conversation. This strategic wrist a podcast born from the word strategically which was coined by SNL and embraced by the George W Bush administration. We highlight the American spirit of leadership and compassion through thought provoking conversations. And we're reminded that the most effective leaders are the ones who laugh captain money. It's an honor to have you joining us on the strategic wrist. Thank you so much for having me, and we're also joined by fought up Popol manager of the women's initiative at the Bush institute far hot thank you for joining us. Thank you so much Andrew as an Afghan-American. I am honored to be sitting in front of captain dot money today, cutting money, I wanted to start a little bit by I know, I don't know that I have an accurate picture of what life in Afghanistan is like, thank you. So the life is not as we see it as we see it as a big picture. The life is very difficult. Especially for women in Afghanistan because woman's enough ghanistan or struggling with so many laws so many regulation that bid they are always told that they are not allowed to do. And as a foreign countries outside the United States be always see it as a different picture just by saying empowering women in Afghanistan. But as a society that I came from. That's not really how it works because it still you see a woman's on. They're struggling with so many things they have no rights. They have no choice. They can make a decision for their own life. And there's so much while still in for women in Afghanistan. How's that changed over time? Do you feel like unfortunately, Afghanistan came from way up to way down because Afghanistan before war woman had so much freedom women's could be doctors women could be teachers women's could be whatever they want to be in. There was nothing. To stop them by being who they wanna be and even the freedom of how they want to dress themselves how they wanna call themselves..
"andrew kaufman" Discussed on The Strategerist
"Host of Fox News outnumbered over time and co anchor of outnumbered Harris Faulkner is a proud military brat. She reminds us that when someone serves in the military their whole family serves everybody has a role to play. And while we might not be on the battlefield. There were certain things that we needed to do at home. We chat about her father's military service, which included three tours of the at Phnom, and how her mom was a pillar of support and strength is that family moved from one post to another. And we learned how these experiences shaped Harris Faulkner, I'm your host, Andrew Kaufman. And this is the strategic presented by the George W Bush institute. What happens when he crossed the forty third. President late night sketch comedy and compelling conversation, this strategic Chris a podcast born from the word strategically which was coined by. And and embraced by the George W Bush administration. We highlight the American spirit of leadership and compassion through thought provoking conversations in. We're reminded that the most effective leaders are the ones who laugh. So we're thrilled to welcome. The anchor of Fox News, outnumbered overtime and co host of Fox News, outnumbered bestselling author Harris Faulkner to the strategic. I thank you. I'm so excited to be here. And we're glad you're here. Now Harris is the daughter of a Vietnam veteran and also joining us today is a military father within the Bush institutes house, warm, walls, the April and Jay Graham, fellow with the Bush institutes military service initiative Colonel Miguel. How Colonel thank you for joining us. Andrew, thanks for inviting me, I am thrilled to be here with Harris today in really excited to meet her dad Colonel Bob harasses. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I feel blessed to be with you. And thank you for your service, and the leadership that you set as the bar for the rest of us. Let's start a little bit with families. And you're military Brad, essentially, not essentially exact sometime system wrap. Usually that was my background the Bush who believes that we have to. Serve our veterans. But before we can serve our veterans. We have to know our veterans and their families. So what was your life like as a military brow? Well, you know, whatever you are in those early years in your moving around a lot mom and dad had to kind of sell me on the military relocation program that we were on with observing, and, you know, oh, I'm gonna miss my friends. And so my mom would pack a big purple box before the moving van would pull out. My dad always insisted that we would drive stateside to the next assignment said when we went from Leavenworth to Fort Bragg that was a long drive, but she would pack this purple. We took some painting and painted a packing box..