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Co-chair and welcome everyone to shift F one a podcast about speedy race cars Andrew Scanlon joining the army by co hosts, Danny O'Dwyer and rob Zach knee. How are you guys? Danny. What's up, I'm doing grace atoll Macara Tautou Inigo in Bali all clear, your your indulgence? Yes. I am. So if there are any weird like time lags or it doesn't seem like we can hear each other. It's because we're we're trying to Skype across the Atlantic Ocean. It's a culture exchange program. I've spent enough time in America that drew is negative spent five years at. Yeah. We'll compare notes. That's the different podcast. Yeah. It's nice. I'm sitting here in Airbnb with shoddy wifi so cool. Yeah. Welcome to my. Yeah. That's my welcomes of my college life. So we ended up when we did he three. So this is a really quick hand. We when we did the three with point. We ended up in an Airbnb that like we've been told me to ask about their WI fi performance. What what what was their wired and wifi connection? Like at everything we were told a pack of lies, basically, we got DSL connection entire like E three thing off of and it was so bad. Like, we could barely watch any of the conferences. And we realized that it was more effective for us. Like, particularly like streaming to just use our social editors danika Harrods wireless data off her phone. And so are three plans kind of like went flying out the window as we all gather around this tiny overheated Airbnb with like internet just kept going down and periscope. Although. Of. It was the it was the rust thing. I have ever been like part of production-wise. That is awesome. It was awesome. Re right there. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was super like fun guerrilla shoot. But also, I would not volunteer to do that. Again, you know. You know at giant bomb we at a lot of similar situations. And then we. When we got to CVS. All right. Let's get some, you know, get some business class internet in this in this building. And oh my God. I'm in the wrong business. I need to be supplying internet companies because holy cow. Do they charge? You a lot of money. Just to get like a fiber line in there. Do it. I remember like the the the in costs you talked to Don Mahar ick. Who's now? OH about how much it costs to just hook up to the like wired internet, Alan the three show floor per day. Like, it's fucking outrages. It's the Korkut feet. Yeah. It's where it was like fucking the nectar of the gods. Combing through those pipes. Unbelievable. Ridiculously running enough one team. Pretty much. Speaking of nectar of the gods. We got ably the best race, which is of the season in the US grand prix, which is why we decided to do the US UP in the Mexico GP in one episode because Danny and I were both traveling, and it just wouldn't work to like, you know, do kind of a half step. We wanted to talk about both of these races in their entirety. So we're going to do and Mexico GP this episode and the next week. We will do a pre Brazil episode for that grand prix. So what you guys say. We just hop right? Into the grid for the US GP. Sure. I wanted just first of all mentioned that I was in Austin for almost the entire race weekend. I'm didn't get to see any. Because I was working, but it was real fun. Wondering around the city and seeing a lot of Mercedes and Ferrari jackets and the McLaren one as well. And then there was a couple of Haas stuff as it was funny. The whole city just had these like little like shopping stands around the place where they were just selling like f one merch which is pretty cool, and then like all like little, you know, brunch. Places hot like your f one pit stop here and stuff like that. And it was cool. We ended up staying pretty close to where you and I stayed actually. Okay. When we went to the GP two or three years ago, but sadly enough time to meet opportu any of that stuff. I was busy filming our are weird Hofland project. But it was cool. It was cool to be there. I watched the race on Sunday night. Okay. Nice. Yeah. The couple things to mention here in the that affected the grid. Suggestion federal got a three place grid penalty for failing to slow for red flags and I practice on the weekends. So he actually qualified in second starting fifth, and then in Q one Verstappen broke his car by running over some of those really thick yellow curbs that they had placed on the outside of one of the turns to prevent people from going over there. I heard a herd Brundle, Colin, I think I've heard you call them this, Danny sleeping policemen. Yeah. Yeah. That's the term of you. You hear quite a long the UK when like old precursor speed bumps that is. Yeah. Yeah. I actually. But yeah, he he went over some of those and broke his car. So he did not even set a time and Q one, but because gasoline Hartley both replaced a lot of their power unit parts they start from the back of the grid. Samak Z teeth Lewis Hamilton though on pole position, followed by one Kimmy Reichen in second place, inheriting it from session. Federal after he got his grip penalty behind Kimmy and third BOTAS than we got Danny? Rick followed by federal behind them, Okon hokum Berg, grow John LeClair and Peres rounding out the top ten and we've got signs Magnusson Alonzo Sirotkin stroll in fifteenth than we've got Ericsson van Dorn for step in ghastly and Hartley. Danny o'dwyer. Do you wanna take us through this start? Sure. The one thing I remember about the start of the race was the when we woke up on Sunday morning. It was dry in Austin for the first time in five days and then. Also after the race was finished it rained on Monday for the rest of the next week. So we were crazy lucky. Not to get a wet race are unlucky. That's gotta wet rice. After all the the craziness of qualifying and practice and everything. So it was a super nice day on Sunday, a good track temps, everyone sort of the there was nothing to the inside line is always a little bit better for folks on the sort of less like dirty part of it there where Kimmy was but that didn't really account for the bad start at Hamilton got when the lights and he had a bit of wheelspin as he was getting I think between like second and third year something just shifting, and which let Kimmy get the jump on a base, which obviously with the inside line leading up to that. Crazy. You know, Thais turn one at the top of the hill meant that he attract position going into turn to the apart from that the rest of them were kind of similar in terms of where they ended up. There was a bit of action as they were going through the S's. Lunch. Stroll to say hit into for non Alonzo or sort of pushed out for not enough. Happy said it's impossible to race with these folks or something like that. Yeah. There was a couple of people jumping over the the SS as well. Which did somebody may be penalized for getting an advantage at that stage. Maybe later in the race. I forget the that's come back to me. Now. And then there was a wonderful. I guess that's what happened in the first the first two sections. They'll kind of came came onto the main back straight, then was a head of Hamilton and everyone else sort of lined up behind them, and I won't take up the full lap. Because the more the much more interesting thing happened the start of the third sector. Yeah. I guess in that Malay grow. John also hit LeClair and spun him around and earned himself. Not only three place grid penalty for the next race. But two penalty points on his licence which puts him two points away from a race ban. So. If he if he had gone this didn't happen. But if he had gone into the race in Mexico and earned more points in the weekend. Like if he had gotten some penalty during practice or qualifying could not have race in the Mexican grand prix. So I guess good for growth on that. He he didn't screw up there. But yes, so that'll tried the long way around BOTAS, but went wide and was not able to get a by him. So he's in he's still in fifth, and he has the advantage on the straits though on Ricardo because Ricardo's red bold, not typically, good straights. And gets him without too much trouble. But there's so much road left that Ricardo stays in his slipstream, and then outbreaks vital to pull even with him as they head into the turns. So that'll is still gunning for the championship at this point. I guess we should mention. If let's see that'll needs to come in fourth or better. That would. Yeah. I mean, this is like the rob rob Wittman saying this. I think since since he joined us like, you know, the championship is still open. But is it? Really, right. Yeah. But I mean, that's that's kind of what I don't know having that color this entire race. Just made it that much better. It's a great race in itself. But you know, seeing what battle has to do. Throughout this race. Was was really really cool. That'll by God was going to get that camel through the Neal's. I just doesn't better yet. They're not. Yes. So he obviously does not want to give give up any places. So he's really hanging on. And as he's making this weeping return, he just understeers a little drifts into Ricardo. Who's on the outside and Ricardo bounces away and drives off the track. But because it's the best in federal he's naps around two hundred eighty degrees and watches everyone else drive by and again lights his tires to try to get back in rejoining in fifteenth place. So. From there. It's like well did the championship. Just is that it right? I think I certainly thought that for a little while like, okay, great there. It is Louis just won the championship. But as we'll see he's in a pretty good car and makes a lot of places. Yeah. It's one of those where you're kind of like, you know, it's one of those it's one of those spots where you're you're thinking like like if maybe it's over this race. Maybe it's not like, that's that's kind of what the question ended up being those Louis ended up getting championship in America. Does this? Does this go somewhere else? The only thing that you're thinking that's just like reliability maybe Hamilton's car will break down. But they've been so reliable here that you're thinking like no does a much better chance of a red bull breaking down or much better John's of Ferrari having a problem or or something like that. So especially with Louis being so level headed this year. Like, he says not making mistakes, and these you know, he's getting the points. He's kind of being a bit of an alum process here, which he never really wants before where he's just getting the points where he has them. You know, he's he's trying to win races. But he's not being crazy, and he doesn't need to at this stage. Either on the flipside of vessel basically like through his race away on the first lap. And also in in qualifying just like not slowing down enough under a flag. Like, that's like the really base. Shish like his multiple worlds, I'm champion. No one else did that. He just got the impression Sebastian county for the season to be over. And he's just like he needs like, you know, take time out or something. I am really curious. What the championship looks like next year? What sad looks like as a driver because I think you're right. Like Lewis has become more and more of a complete driver. Like, whatever he needs to do on the day. He will find a way to do it, which means when he needs to be very like process like icy pragmatists, just you know, driving perfect laps minimize risks. He will absolutely do that. But on those races where he needs to pull miracle. He often finds a way to do that as well. He is sort of become a much more like measured driver than than ever seen him and sev-. You know, he has moments where he such where he's such a great racer. But this is the like when you look at this year's arc. There've been sewing mistakes. But also like here by the end of the season. This got to be some self doubt creeping in. And I am really curious what the long term effects of that are right? Like, I am hoping said cut like I'm hoping the season except puts it behind him. And like, we have an awesome for Mercedes battle next year. Maybe even you know, three four ways for the drivers for the drivers title, wouldn't that be awesome? But I am a little bit concerned that the sheer number of things that have happened sub the season going to leave him like completely in his head for twenty nineteen. How many times he dumped his car off the track when he absolutely needed to do anything? But that and this was. Here's my question. Just just when you watch the specific incident. Do you feel like this was just pure understeer? Or is he doing that thing we are trying to cut a wide line and shut the door on somebody to to me? It seemed like that because the Ammann's like that arena section. We had where we had seats when we went there so many opportunities. I mean when you're coming off turn twelve like Ricardo takes dot line because not because of turned thirteen where where which is where him and said how they're touchable because of fourteen and fifteen because eventually you end up you can like it turned fifteen hundred like slow off a little bit. And it's such a tight left hundred if you're anywhere near people, you just you caught them off right away. So to me it really looked like he was trying to push him off the the track about the time. They touched I feel like Ricardo had a couple of weeks on the side at a truck already. Yeah. It was. Yeah. It was not. It was not close. But it's yeah. I don't know. It's it's like a mirror image of what we saw in with him on max in where was that Austria them Japan? Yeah. Right. We're going to spoon. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to force trying to force line though. It wasn't as wild move as initially Sam Saad drivers eventually apparently. Now, there's a line that spoon. These cars. The exists that did not exist before which is really cool. But this this was the did sort of seem like the reverse of that coin where where he's the driver who's who's roughly has the position, and then just decides to move into the aggressive line when he side-by-side it's it's such a. It's such a strange move. It was sort of I think. Yeah. Position to still be in decent position to fight. Ricardo coming out of that turn. It was just this like wanting to slam the door on somebody's challenge and sometimes that works, but you need to have unequivocal position that they have to break out, right? Yeah. For further up the field. His mate is having much better race making up a place on the opening lap. For the first time since Abu Dhabi twenty sixteen. Yeah. And as we mentioned federal does manage to turn it on from fifteenth place and by lap seven he passes Okon for eighth place. It's kinda the same thing is happening with her staff, and he started from eighteenth in his up at the same lap to fifth place with pass on Hobart. So fedel still got a lot of work to do. To to get to fourth place, which is what he needs to do. Because Hamilton is at that point in second behind Reichen, although fell does get some help a few laps later much to the chagrin of Ricardo fans everywhere because the prize Ricardo goes out with mechanical failure. Yeah. Killer, which you know, just yeah. You have to just roll your eyes at this point. But isn't it weird spots? We do get virtual safety car, which leads this fund situation where Hamilton is told to box opposite reckon if they're still in virtual safety car and Kimmy actually like Jukes toward the pit fake Hamilton out. But Hamilton is not fooled. And he he does end up pitting. He then works as way back up to Reichen by lap twenty one recognition still in his original tires. So Lewis has caught him and tries to pass. I emphasize try because Reagan does put up some of the best defense. I think I've seen all year kind of reminding everyone he's there in my opinion. I just think I. Good. So the narrative of this sort of part of the racist while it was kind of a little bit. Like, why did Ferrari not pick Kimmy because there's already caught up with him. But like the window for for those tires of like just you know, getting those really important hot laps in. Was was was closing. And we what we kind of saw by the time raking depit at the end of twenty one was that he had kind of between the back markers and him getting up to our overtaking. And then getting up to me that he had taken the life additives tires in a way, this either Friday were were planning to or they you know, they were -plication Kimmy over radio saying that he Hamilton was going for to stop, and they were on different strategies. But what what looked like Ferrari, maybe Jim not jumping the gun or like are missing out on the opportunity and those those crucial ops ended up Radi. Playing into Friday's Hans when Hamilton was you know, had air in front of himself. Suddenly didn't have the tires anymore. Yeah. And you know, it did a lot to slow Hamilton down. Hang. I just wanted to ask you all did you notice the hero who found a TV Mike during the race and started making aggressively loud race car noises into the microphone for like three before they were found the guy. I bet you from the truck they killed that Mike. Yeah. They must have had to like see or I didn't notice that Mike. Yeah. He was just going like meow m-. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was so good. It was so good. Like it was distracting loud. The the nounce. We're getting it too. Because Crofty sort of like started stumble a bit. And he was like that sounds. That's some good race Car Toys, it something like the turbos. But okay. Well done on. I had a lot of people with me being in Austin at the time and that being the sort of end of this podcast every week. I have people onto it or asking me if I had found the racetrack or something. So we got we got a lot of messages on Twitter from Doucet 'age star Turkey till here. T- everyone asking Danny the crowd yelling into a microphone. I like the idea that there's like that's what I do. And I go one racist just do yum thing. The holy ran like giddy, you know, for five year old. I mean, that's kind of what it sound. Like, I'm not even sure it was intentional. Maybe it was this guy. But you know, they have like crowd noise. Mike's right. And maybe this guy was just my partners theory is on the corner workers. Jimmy was aboard track. Marshall just draped over a guard rail. And I, you know, like most of the time you just gotta watch the race. And you don't have much to do. And like that was her suspicion because they don't Mike up the crowds that aggressively at one is you might you Mike to pull audio from the track. So probably the only way you get that is if there's a corner worker doing that which I think is probably a good insight that it's like when you find yourself talking to yourself or singing in the shower like, you don't realize you're doing it. They're just sitting there and just. I'm so I'm so glad that that came over the radio beautiful like into the and having it like mess with Crofty. I think was was the best part. Elsewhere pit strategies for stepping pitted on lap twenty two coming out behind bettle and actually catches him by lap twenty six so similar pitstops strategies for battle as well. I was pretty nervous at this point. Because you know, that'll in verse tavern have had some things in the past for stepping does make a clean pass on the outside with his new tires and then federal comes into the pits coming out in fifth place behind BOTAS. So if stays second federal doesn't need to get by BOTAS to extend the championship. It was a five point gap was over was then maybe no maybe that was that's from fourth of that sounds right. But I think for our was right. Hamilton does make a second pitstop thirty eight coming up behind for stabbing in third. So it's still possible. Preventative this point if nothing happens to Reich in or Verstappen, who are it should be noted very close to each other. So by lap fifty four two seconds covered the top three Reichen in Verstappen and Hamilton, which is awesome. Because then Hamilton has ago on for staff in for second who holds off the first lunch but Hamilton keeps at it doing Chris cock criss crosses in everything. And eventually Hamilton goes wide on turn. And then concede the place for two Verstappen, which I don't know you guys I loved seeing this action from Amilton like it was hard reysen, even though he could just cruise to the championship. Sorry. Go ahead. And we know that he's really leery of max like he is he. Yeah. He he's very he's very concerned about the way. Like max does not sort of hesitate to as they say an IndyCar give someone the chrome horn. And so he knew he was going in in a super dicey situation and gonna have to get wheeled wheel on bad rubber with max. And I think they both just raced absolutely beautifully gave each other space now Austin makes it easy to give space. That was also a this is why Austin is a coal track. Because there are like sequences on the circuit where you can have drivers perform these almost almost dogfight light dogfight scissors maneuvers to to try to get to get track position. So it was it was a great deal and. The fact that like Hamilton managed to make it almost stick when he'd been complaining about his tires for ages. And it seems like Mercedes everyone was caught out but the change in track temperatures between race day and what the practice then. But Mercedes definitely seemed to struggle. The most mightily with. Maybe Louis most vocal on the radio. Feels things are not quite working, right? Yeah. Totally. It's Rob's point like the entire arena section. I mean, kind of like all the way from like turn twelve at the end of the old way too. I think it's eighteen which is the the super wide part where he eventually lost Etta max, it's just it's it's a really great like little like place for for those type of exchanges, and like the thing you sort of like forget about this track. Is that like so many trucks were used to the stark finished writer, the main street having a lot of the overtaking stuff happening that doesn't happen here. Like, you don't tend to get a lot of overtakes just by the nature of that Halen the tight hairpin at the top turn one. So like, it's really cool that there are loads of there are other places for dot type of overtaking happen on that. It's not just a one and done affair that. Like, we know at the end of that backstage when the DRI sewn is Darren it's an easy overtake that it it's not over. It's not breaking zone is going to tell the story for the next five or six corners. So it's it's such a fun, circuit that way. Like, it's a great circuits of watching. It seems like a fun to drive. As well. And the other thing about what was going on with Hamilton unfor- stop. And then is that at that stage? The battle was was still fighting to try and get fouled Terry. And Hamilton was basically battling to try and get the championship. And we're also talking about, you know, torops point like he's he he has that sort of pragmatic streak, and you didn't have before. But he's also somebody who's one and lost championships on the final apps of races. So like, he's he has the mentality to try and get it if he can and what I liked about. It is that I never got the feeling that Hamilton pulled ended I battle it just looked like mascot the upper hand. Yeah. Exactly. And that was not done either. So he he left fifty five I think is one lap away from the finish. And he goes for BOTAS on the back straight. Say when laugh away from the finish. Yes. Yes. The second. Both us looks like he's going to defend the position on the inside. But he same as Hamilton kind of over cooks it and goes off track promoting fell to two fourth place. And that gentlemen, is the way it ends with federal and fourth Hamilton in third sending the championship into Mexico for stopping get second and Kimmy Reichen in wins, a grand prix the first time in like one hundred and fourteen races while blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh my God. It felt so good. He almost cracked a smile. I think we saw a little bit. We saw some emotion. Yeah. Well, also, he's so we did see emotion. But what loves the emotionally saw was almost this like harried like well that was about goddamn time action like more than anything me is always going to be keeping every situation. And so like, he's not like, no, waterworks tears. And I think the report is trying to be like, hey, like show more emotion, which I think is I hate it. When I hate it when reporters aspect question of interview subjects because like people process things differently feels really selfish question to ask especially athlete coming down from insane. Cocktail of endorphins adrenaline. They're feeling. But I think what I loved is that like, no there's no waterworks from Keam either. There's no, you know. Valedictory speech about what this means. There's only the slightly pissed off like working Joe of an F one driver. Well, it took me long enough. He actually I think that comes across in the post race interview with Coulthard. Breaking Coltart asked him like, what do you think about how do you feel about winning the race? And he says it's a much bigger Bill as a much bigger deal for a lot of people. If it comes it comes if it doesn't it really doesn't change my life. One bit unhappy. We are here and that we win. But I think the biggest difference is the way people look at you. If you look at people in a different if you look at people in a different way, if they went or not, it doesn't make a lot of difference in my mind. But obviously, I'm happy just proving some people wrong is fun for me. Yeah. It must feel good. You know, considering the circumstances of his of his his cease and whatnot like to to be able to get that win. But yeah, I'm sure it's bittersweet as well. Right. Like, you know, it's probably a little bit embarrassing and weird way to to get your first win after all that time as well. And did you guys see I'm not sure if this happened between the two races? Did you guys see the the W T F one YouTube channel had a challenge with Kimmy Reichen with one of the presenters from that website slash podcast. So like it. It's one of the I think it was like a maybe a sponsored piece of content with shaller something, which I think might have some sort of thing with Ferrari or Cami or something. But it's one of those times where like when he's not actually in the F one presentation like the race and all that sort of stuff. He's like actually like a kind of normal laughable, affable guy. It's like it's the first time I'd seen that side of them in a while because he's tends to kind of be so stoic. I I'll send you a link to stick in the show notes. It's definitely worth watching because he's just having a cracking jokes with this dude in a very like normal, non robotic Kimmy type of way, and it's it's nice to. See see see a breakthrough sort of stowe's stoic mater of of during the rice. Yeah. I just to see that. I think I did see that floating around. But I didn't watch it. So we'll we'll put it in the show notes. So yeah. Real quick. I just want to ask you real quick. Like, so I mean, I'm curious where you at key me right now because I feel like early in the season, they really did feel like I don't know. Like, you know, this could be this could be at like, you know, this is a driver's clearly on the downslope and rapidly descending. It. From my perspective. I feel like not just with that one with that one victory. But like yes, yes is opening lap performances. But he's been really sharpened consistent for Ferrari of late. It feels like and I do just kind of wonder. Do you like what's your read on came? Do you think he's as close to retirement as maybe it appeared when all this when when this whole season started? I don't I feel like I don't have enough. Like like, I dunno like data on the him. Like, it almost seems like what's happened with his cease kind of you know, he's in his like Alonzo phase where he just doesn't care. But he also just so happens to be in a really good car. Still like, I don't know. Because like the the starts was always the problem or not always the probably like the starts were like a big big part of the problem. And if you you know, qualifying times were generally like fairly decent, but you know, but always behind Sebastian. But then he always like miss out at the start of a race. And it was never his temperamental is consistency during the races. Like there was times we lost positions because about strategy of varieties part which has been something that's been a problem for the past couple of seasons. Every once in a while there's unforced errors. But like his race. Craft was always really good. It just seemed like he never put his car in the right position during the weekend or on the first lap of a race. So it seems like we kinda solve that problem. So like. I don't I don't know. Maybe that could be so many things could be him. The lack of pressure will be getting used to the car. It could be the fact that Lewis's, you know, taking his foot off the Gaza VIP because he's got, you know, space between themselves, and and unvetted in the you know, the rebels aren't as competitive as they have been in previous seasons. Either, you know, so it's I don't I don't really know. It's the type of thing even out by the end of the season. I won't really, you know, like, even if he does well in the next two races because the pressure is kind of off we are coasting into twenty nineteen of it. Yeah. And for me, I you know, I haven't been watching the sport as long as as you guys have. But the impression that I get from Kimmy on this year and going into twenty nineteen is that the man just wants to drive a car. And if he can if he can do that. I think he'll just he'll just race until he is, you know, eight years old, and it almost doesn't seem to matter to him. What car he's in? He just wants to do his job. Well, and I think, you know, I think you know, doing that job next to Sebastian federal, can, you know, invite a lot of comparisons. But I think the guy's super solid these from what I've seen, and I'm I'm I'm excited that he is going to be you know, in a. I reasonably competitive car next year, you know. Also, very excited to see LeClair for. So I don't I don't feel feel bad for Kimmy. I think it's awesome. That he finally got a, you know, a win in. This year. And I think he's kind of going out on a high note, and he's not really going out. So yeah, I'm I'm pleased for him. And I'm looking forward to next year. Like, you you you can see the gotten consistently better year after year after yard just went back to look at his his his records over the past. I guess four or five seasons. Ferrari. And and like, you know, he went from from getting basically, no podiums in his first season as I wanted to getting a couple of third places in two thousand fifteen to getting two third places and two second places the next year usually the same like four retirements season last year. He did our ice. He goes six one two three four five third-place podiums and two silvers as a were. And then this is completely smashed. He's been on the podium one two three four five six seven eight nine ten thirteen. Well that we spoilers at times. Which included a race win and three second place. So we has consistently gotten better every single year in an era where Friday will probably fairly consistently second place. The you know, they weren't battling for I a lot obviously. But they were still like within range of second and third or maybe third I guess would Voltaire would of -tarian Nico. So like he has gotten better each year. It's almost a shame that he's not got maybe one more year left in the Scuderi at this stage. You see what he's if he can keep it up. I guess here's the thing behind. My question is the Colin cowherd or skip in Shannon question for you. All. We like next year if Ari. Like, would you rather have? Second half of the season. Like second half of the season sev- in your fryer. Or you rather have. Yeah, I'd go for Kimmy at. Tozzi things for side. It's really weird because he never had that problem before like he was he was Schumacher. I guess you might actually how does you know? Throughway plenty arises being over the aggressive for doing something stupid. But yeah, I don't know. It's it's I think the end of the season can't come soon enough for for Vattel. And it's almost coming too soon. Forgive me. Yep. I would agree. Let's run down the rest of the field here. Showy Kim's reckoning on top winning the United States grand prix behind him extra step in second place and Lewis Hamilton rounding out the podium behind him. Sebastian federal keeping the championship alive. Followed by Veltri, BOTAS, nego hokum Berg, Carlos Sainz junior. And then we had Esteban Okon and Kennedy Magnusson eighth and ninth. But they were disqualified for fuel errors did not know that this race. Yup. DS queued. That they use diesel. Insanity. Yeah. Let's see. We. They did they did a fuel pit stop. We didn't notice but they actually review field athletes. Speaking sorry going. Oh, go ahead. I'm going to find some no I was gonna I was gonna pod for you. I was in Austin. I was in Austin, and I was in Dallas and Phoenix and the boss two weeks. So I'd multiple rental cars. And and there's a thing which we allowed to European listens. And we've loved North America's there's a thing in in whenever I'm in Europe. Whenever I got a rental. It's all like so often it's a diesel car. I don't know why. Because like there aren't like these aren't like about uncommon in Europe. But like for whatever reason rentals are always fucking diesel as an Ireland. It's always a diesel when I've got one in England, it's it's mostly diesel. So that's led me to be like terrified every single time. I rent a car in the states because like they're never diesels. Like, you never get a diesel cars a rental, or at least I haven't. But I'm always every single time. I go up to the fuel pump. I'm always like shitting myself looking up the engine of the car like big bog there's going to be the time brick this garbage in the road. So that's that's been my past two weeks as renting multiple cars and being terrified on the side of like a Dallas highway. I'm gonna. Fucking ruin this like whatever it was. I rented rented a Ford Mustang convertible when I was in Sedona because it costs like forty dollars more than the sedan. I originally got gotta do. Yeah. Never driven for. It was a lot of fun in in Texas. No us. Magnusson disqualification is more straight the more straightforward of the to this by the way from recent that net. He did not exceed the limit on fuel flow rather the restriction on how much fuel drivers can use during a race. This is set at one hundred five kilograms so he used too much fuel. In fact, there were a lot of radio messages apparently to Magnuson saying we are really low on fuel. Liftoff liftoff Nosrat throttle. Checkered flag trying not to to use one hundred and five kilograms of fuel Okon. However, let's see force India team principal Seth in our admitted. There had been a spike in Okan's fuel flow rate during the I lab, but over the whole that he was compliant with the one hundred kilograms per hour limit. So that was a fuel rate and Magnuson was a fuel total. So there you go them. Yeah. Weird that they were like all together different issues. But that they both did it. I wonder if they were just checking them this race. Yeah. Maybe you never know. It's funny. I know as well that a lot of the in the past drivers have just pulled over after the checkered flag, and I know the FAA weren't super happy about that sort of stuff they used to like just pull over. So that the fuel didn't get burnt on the way back to park for mayor. Whatever the garbage. Yeah. I don't know if they're allowed to do that anymore. Inheriting eighth and ninth are Sergio Perez and Brendon hardly and Marcus Ericsson is the last to get a point behind them van Dorn gas leak Sirotkin and stroll out of this race were Claire with an accident Ricardo with his power unit grow John and Alonzo with accidents. And then O'Connell Magnusson were disqualified US GOP one of the best races of the season. Foreshore pretty good. Congratulations around them Harley forgetting, some points. Again, there you go. And then we move south of the border to Mexico City where the red bulls were looking very good all weekend in practice and qualifying. And it looked like for Staffan was going to get the pole position, which would have made him the youngest pole-sitter ever. But all Ricardo pipped him at the very last second by point zero to six. Ooh. Those red bulls. They love that let that circuit the sort of the altitude plays into their favourite decent manage. They got to the red bulls got a lot of the conical grip, which cancel more. And of course last year for stopping won the race believe in twenty seventeen. So right. They have a. Yeah. They've they've always had a decent showing at the Mexican grand prix and right away, you know, from practice through the qualifying and ended rice they were they were super super fast. Yeah. And we're hard as lap is pretty amazing because the rest of the field had set their fastest times on their I q three run. But then couldn't improve on their second runs. Ricardo improved by more than two tents on his second run to get that pole position for staff, and of course, pretty bummed. And so when he drove into the. Like, you know, one two three signs that are set up there for the post qualifying interview, he just mashed into the second place sign. And Ricardo was very excited and uttered. I think one of my favorite quotes of the season. He says today Coulthard, I I gotta relax a little. I'm trip. Major nut sack right now. I'm sure not sock isn't particularly outlined is one of the FAA's like say on camera words, they included it in their best best quotes of the weekend. Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. Great. Well, I guess it's the media package now cheeses. I think about it for a while like oh trip in balls. It's just balls as a little more vague nuts is very graphic. But yes on pole behind him expert staff and Lewis Hamilton starting third and fourth federal followed by BOTAS Reichen in Hokkien Berg, signs LeClair and Magnuson in tenth then we've got Okon Alonzo Perez hardly van Dorn fifteenth. Magnusson stroll grow John Sirotkin and ghastly so grow John again got that three place grid penalty for the LeClair collision gasoline also got hammered for more power unit changes Honda using Toro. So as a Guinea pig for ripple. But yes, so for this race to keep the championship alive that'll has to win. And then Hamilton Zeus most lightning bolt from Olympics and smy Lewis Hamilton. Hey, it could happen. What was the season? What was the season? Did we've talked about it before is this Jackie Stewart or someone what was this season where the driver got injured and they were trying. And somebody had to like win the last couple of races of the. Of the championship responding rush. Yeah. The Nick I may be the situation. That's I feel like it happened to different that. That's probably what I'm thinking about you. Where you like you need the driver to be, you know, hospitalized free to win the rest of the championship. That's kind of what this looked like is he needed something catastrophic. Donald and right, and then for an for an eventual stop fucking it and people and spinning. Step one. I mean that kind of happened with the Rosberg season because Hamilton's engine exploded in Malaysia. That's true. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't this late in the season. But still it was a it seemed like something Zeus's lightning bolt. But yes, no lightning. No weather for Mexico. You wanna take through the star? Danny sure. Like, you said we've got our boy Ricardo in pole position. And and max lining aside him, and then the sort of the eyes are on which one of them is going to, you know, are we going to have another buck who situation going down into Thais left tower, right under you know, will they they come to blows. And it didn't really matter because Lewis Hamilton, you know, did the Mario Kart hold on the button after the second lice or whatever thing. Fucking split the difference almost like, right? Like it almost when it happened. I was I almost shouted full stars. Because he just got such a drive off of it. And obviously somebody was practicing since since they're bad start to the previous race, and that sort of split everyone up a little bit where you had for stopping and Hamilton fighting into the first heart and suddenly Ricardo was added position because for stopping to KOTA over him. And then he couldn't get Hamilton's Univer stop in winning the Hamilton battle into turn one pretty handily. But then volunteer BOTAS Donnie, Rick and going side by side or entire one turn to it looked like BOTAS had the edge. But he's sort of caught a live too much inside curb lost bit of grip and then Ricardo managed to cover him off pretty easily and inventory was basically fighting with. I guess it was veteran in fifth to to way. Where's who was glues Kimmy your Vetere higher in the qualify? It was veteran. So I think. They actually went three wide BOTAS Ricardo federal into that turn one. But then it was the the two not vessel that then came to blows after that. But yeah, that'll managed to claw his way back to BOTAS, and they actually touch wheels going into turn six and has to go off track. So for one was almost another one of those for one got the rub of the the rub of the rubber as it were. And didn't spin out. Yeah. Crazy. Unfortunately, the who didn't get the sort of any look whatsoever was performed on Dema Lonzo who was using his amazing. You know, I psychic powers where he always seems to know when when some backmarkers gonna crush into one always manages to avoid it. But some piece of I think it was all cons front wing. Just spot across the edge of the track and waged in in some part of front of his car, and you know, that daybreak just like caused havoc for him. So he. He ended up going wides as a defensive maneuver almost completely inconsequentially a piece of carb just flew out there and got wedged in super super unlucky. Yeah. He was retired for laps later. You know, just not not going well for non does last season these getting and also I think also what I did was at stopped him from reaching the record of having the most one lapse of any ever because he he would have had to complete everything every lap sensor, or, you know, maybe every lap shy twenty or something. But he he he he cannot up the numbers, of course. That record if you're driving. Mclaren these last few sees like even in the running for that record is a testament to the share like what a prolific racing career is had because I swear to God that the McLaren is run like on average half of every race, Bryce. Bryce seasons. Mercedeses pit eleven then Verstappen on lap thirteen who comes up behind Reichen and gets by him in short order on the start finish straight with the IRS kind of similar thing. Mercedes just eaten through their tires and Ferraris kind of playing a longer game. If you later, we get a repeat of the the US grand Bray with Hamilton trying to pass Reichen in which he does without incident followed closely by Ricardo, and I think I saw some people saying that we are Reichen didn't really put up a fight. But watching it again, I think this is just more initiative for me that is the Greek driver and probably like feels like the last of a dying breed because he makes it difficult for Hamilton closes the door into turn one, but doesn't crunch into him. And then he drifts wide to block Hamilton Hamilton. Gotten a better exit is already on the outside and Reich one drive into him. So I know that like this is how it's supposed to be done. But it doesn't. If feels like you'll see this from the likes of Verstappen or Magnusson or grow John or stroller. Okon even more careless like the younger navy. It's like well. I mean, grow Jon Magnusson have a lot more experience and for staff should know better. They're just a lot more careless. So Reichen by doing that is basically forcing Hamilton to drive perfectly which he does because he's Hamilton and he gets by. But that to me at least is what I would like to see more of like actual put your money where your mouth is let's actually race and not try to like, you know, sneak one over on the other guy. Let's let's put our talents up against each other. And I feel like Kimmy is why this type of driver who races his entire race. Whereas you get a lot of drivers like, you know. Verse often is obvious choice where they're racing every lap. And like Kimmy knows that like he could hold up Hamilton a lot there. But like he's he's raising his own REIs. And ultimately what who's gonna play into like, maybe it helps veteran some way. But like, ultimately he's going to have to change the way he drives to cover off all of these corners, and that's going to slow him down to ruin his race. So he, you know, it's like what was the line was a line in USA where they said, let's see where they said something about Kimmy holding Hamilton. And he said, yeah. But like not let's not do something silly as well. He's he's he's wedding to do it for the race strategy as long as permits us. But that's like a situation where like the typical pragmatic Finns. It's kinda like now like it's it's better for me to just like defend and not over defend, and then he can get back on his rice. I'm sure he didn't necessarily want to lash Ricardo past the second the exact same turn the next set of turns or that set of earns. But it seemed like the right thing to do. Defend cleverly without know, overriding, the pudding or there's part of it is just such an experienced driver at this point. He doesn't have that much to prove. So he's not going to be out there starving for credit or plaudits with every single move trying to get someone's attention driving for Ferrari, proven next world the world champion. He doesn't have to fight tooth and nail for everything. And I think that's a big part of age experience position in the sport and in life. It does remind me also. Remember when that entire scandal came to light with Nelson Piquet junior about him statement crash in Singapore on silly Silvio Berlusconi's orders. Over utah. Raise orders to sort of rig race a little bit. And I think it was Jackie Stewart's something interesting at the time because he had sort of measured condemnation of PK when when a lot of people were like ready to run this guy of motor sport forever for something like that. And again, I think it was Stewart he said something like well. Of course my day. Nobody would done something like that. Nobody would have let someone order them to stage an accident and and try to fix a race like that. But back in my day. It was like we were all men who are driving like grown men. And when he made that decision was like twenty twenty like maybe like driver's been such a movement to try to recruit the new hotness right to try to pull the next Lewis Hamilton the next batch. Vattel as early as possible from lower tiers of racing lock them in the your team and like develop them, and then you've got a then you got your driver's situations sorted for basically a generation or at least a good portion of one. You know, you can have a good foundation to to build your team. But I think what's been lost from that a little bit is the track is so full of people who are out to prove themselves. They know the teams are always trying, you know, who's, you know, who's done really well in open wheel racing's somewhere else. Right. Who who's who's the new hotness? And I think that is contributed to just a combination of lack of experience on track and desperation to make every single encounter on the track. Be some sort of like career highlight reel moment. Yeah. That's totally ring straight. I me I think when you saw Fernando was saying last week. Well, what kind of echoed a couple of times races this week where he's you know, giving bit the sort of reckless drivers of, you know, impossible to race with these people or whatever he said last week, and, you know, the sort of the victim of this this culture of of and it's not unique to one that whole idea of the prodigy in sports is becoming more and more of a thing. And in lots of lots of sports, certainly like football soccer. And I watched is obviously in college football up NFL draft, all that sort of thing. But when the biggest victim of that is was the past couple of years was was Donnie caveat who we're going to get back again recently soon enough, and you could like you've hit the nail in the head. Rob you the opposite of Kimmy did not corners. What Donnie did on every corner where he was fighting for his career like last season when he had those four or five horrific races in a row. It was all because he was just like too hot headed in every single clash in would eventually on the eyes were on him as well. But he was kind of he was letting the is beyond him because he knew he was. Who's going to try is you know, he's going to try and win every single corner. And it just, you know, maybe maybe an element of this as well. As just how we're able to watch out for, you know, we watch f one now from like a million different angles helicopter shots and slow MO and all this sort of stuff where his back in Jackie Stewart's day, you know, the BBC World Service got a of you know, Videocon arrived three days. So. So you know, who knows? But. Yeah. Like, I think you're you're totally right. That's sort of culture of you know, who the next hotness is you can see when you look at the look at the grid. And look how many of these elder statesmen. We have an look how many drivers of only got like one or two seasons behind them. It's it's it's a different time owners also element. Sorry. Just wanted to ask as wonder if there's also an element of thinking about who people grew up watching like what what does one mean different generations, right? Like Kimmy would have been watching. Probably the tail end, it would have been watching sort of the tail end of I suppose, the like louder era and much more like into the prostes Senna Mansell era, but like who stood out in that era was to degree and son. Who was a great driver, but also one of the most ruthless and like willing to physical risks with the car. And that's a mortar is the documentary that was really popular like ten years ago. Right. Like one of the great motorsports. Documentaries is a celebration of. Yes. One of the greatest drivers ever. But also guy who was so in it to win it that he drives his car into his teammate at right earn one. It's Zucca to make a point. And. Then the drivers law. These people watch for like, Michael Schumacher. Who was also a guy who was like willing to like go right up to whatever line and the famously even put a tire over that line. To get an advantage. And that was what like that's what I was. Right. It was no longer generation that got into the car every race thinking about like, okay. How can I not get myself or someone else killed this week? How do I do the safely and smartly they wash general? They watched racing that was much more about you know, whatever it takes to win. Right. I feel like you know, you can see that split kind of in the Ferrari, you know, garbage as well where you have veteran who is very much much. I feel like call caught in the Schumacher cloth of of the high highs and then the low lows when it comes to working with teammates or maybe like Ariza in their in their career. And then I kind of feel like Kay me is more in the sort of Mika Hakkinen. Of, you know, fold of of, you know, not just another Finn. But like a bit more like, you know, less kind of crazy not like in the sort of out on processed fry, you know, mold, but but more like, you know, doing his doing his bid, and ultimately, you know, winning championships. I way to just like Hakkinen did as well. I think there's probably like maybe ten or twelve years between the two of them. So. Yeah, it's it's it's you're right. It's it's interesting to look, you know, who the next people are going to be right because we're looking at Hamilton. Now sure is going to be in the sport, you know, for a couple more years a really good more years easy. He's young. But like I feel like I remember like doing interview when it interview Jenson Button after he retired. Like these drivers if they're starting this early they're going to shirty leave early to like earlier than before rice. You're not going to have people like Schumacher going so lazy in the career or or Alonzo or you know, K me like if these drivers are max. Stop and starting nineteen. Can you be driving twenty years NFL before he retires? Like, it's I wonder what it's going to the sports gonna look like in ten years. Yeah. I mean, we might see more people forced out in that case with more young guns coming up. But like that all that said, I think is one of the reasons why I'm so interested in seeing what LeClair does because you know, I'm not an expert on the guy. I washed them a little bit in formula too. And I like the way that he is looking in this first season. But his interview I think went recently on the from the one podcast beyond the grid. And he talks about wanting to do wanting to do it. Right. Like, he he moved. He was never in anyone's series for longer than a year and the interviewer asked him about that. And he said, yeah. But we never wanted to move on unless we thought we were ready to do. So because when you start skipping stuff or making leaps that are too big. You don't have the foundation. And so I think he's coming from a really smart place on that. But he has it has been a very steady and steep rise for him. So I'm really curious to see if he can if you can hang with with Ferrari, so really looking forward to twenty nineteen on on that respect. But in two thousand eighteen we are back on lap seventeen the Ferraris pitting of that'll rejoining behind Ricardo who's behind Hamilton who's behind for stepping for into. You're saying this is not going to be straightforward to the end of this race max either one or two stops. I also want to point out that I can never tell the red bull engineers apart. They both sound exactly the same which is to say they both sound like Christian Horner. Yes. Very british. There is also a lot of graining going on with the Ferrari in Reseda tires at this point. So, you know, just like last time a lot of question marks abound. This this long into the race. I think it's long seventy one lap race. We're on lap twenty eight now with signs going out with power unit failure bringing out the virtual safety car. So bummer for him. I don't think anybody pitted at that stage. Probably because it was too early. We still have forty three laps to go at that point. But after the restart I think it was around lap thirty one that presen- LeClair had a pretty great battle for eighth place. A lot of switch bags and trading places. I think a lot took part in the stadium sections. So that was cool for Mexican fans. Either guy getting by people I actually ends up with Peres on top. Ricardo whose in third place in counters this battle, and as a result fettle on his new retires is able to get past him for third place, which does not make Ricardo happy. He says what a joke. These guys referring to the backmarkers messing up. His his flow fedel, though has some real pace. And by thirty nine has caught Hamilton who's in second. Knicks pretty clean pass. Which I guess kind of make sense because Hamilton hit this point really just wants to bring it home in one piece. On the same lap o'conner and Harley come together. Hardly baseboard kind of goes flapping around for a little bit. Not a great race for Okon. Although Hartley was also given a five second time penalty in two penalty points on his license. You know, a total of six, by the way, the whole penalty point thing if you accrue twelve penalty points within a twelve month period, you earn a one race ban. So that's that works. Around the same time Perot's goes out from eighth place with a break issue. Which again, I think at one point Brundle or. Crofty mentioned Kroft. There are three Spanish speakers in this race in all of them are out. So. As mentioned earlier Mercedes having trouble with its tires on that forty seven Ricardo has caught up to Hamilton whose in third Hamilton tried to defend but locks up and goes off track. I think it turned one which lets Ricardo sail through into third place, by the way, I watched this nice. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Betsy took his inspiration for his next lap brand turn. Yeah. It was exactly the same. I think it was the onboard video maybe on YouTube that showed both of them side by side. And it's like it's practically frame perfect the way that both Mercedes is go off at the same point when this happened to Hamilton. He actually went off and over the grass to rejoin the race. And I actually watched this race in a London pub. And at that point everyone like they like held their breath. If he goes out and championships still on so. Although I guess federal would have to win at that point. But that was that was actually really cool. Although when I walked into that pub, there were a bunch of screens most of them were showing American football horse because Wimbley. Yeah. That game had been over regular. They were showing like afternoon games at night. But I had to go up to the bartender, nasty Kaz and Formula one year downstairs where there were like six people watching it for Lynch. Needless to say Mercedes pitted. Both cars soon thereafter with those pits for staff to go over the lead followed by Ricardo then federal than than Hamilton BOTAS. And again, I don't need to win. He is currently to two places from that. And he needs Hamilton to come eight lower for the championship to continue. And he does get a boost laps later on that sixty one which. It's it would be funny. If it wasn't so sad Ricardo's engine explodes yet again crazy seven or tyrants, more than anyone else on the the four. This makes it eight. Oh, you're kidding. Like more than any other driver. Apparently, it was the hydraulics lash clutch, which is the same as Verstappen head and practice and. He said I don't see the point of doing the next two races. The cars cursed. Even today. The starts have been good all weekend. The practice starts for the race. Start all over the place. Things are happening on Sunday, which I've got no more explanation for the car lead gas leak drive it. I'm done with it. Did he really say this? Yes. Holy shit is about to say like you're playing the F one game. And a have that media thing in the new one game where you talk to the media, and you can mass effect your way through and be like power Gano? Hey, sheds everyone back at the factory. And then like, the the bad thing, you can say, I don't even think the worst thing you can say that is is bad as the car is karst. That seems like maybe the worst possible thing you could save car except maybe. What's that? You can't kick people out windows. It's not like mass effect. It's oh my God. A company said, let's I mean, you know, why not I guess, but that seems like you don't want to injure career at team not long being that way. You know? I mean like there's an element of. You don't wanna burn bridges? But at the same time. The performance has been so bad and so specific to his car. Like after a point. Because you can't I do not believe you can. Well, no, I'm sorry. I was going to say I don't believe you can race halfheartedly. But then I thought about Alonzo for the past like five six, and I was like no you can get into one car and not give a shit. Or even that's not fair like he gets frustrated on the track. He's just so at peace with how badly things are going interviews, pretty neutral. And he's just like, yeah. For sure, you know, I'm leaving. So it's all good, right? But I think like Ricardo knows he's a good driver and thinks he can do great things and he keeps getting himself. Like, look how happy he was when he got the poll like it was just that's smile. Could've could've power to city that could've could've solved energy problems for for for Mexico City and the next day. Yes, he has about start doesn't get to finish the race. He doesn't get to finish the race. Because yet again for some reason his car is the one that doesn't work. So I get sort of hitting the point where you know, you try to be nice try to be patient at a certain point. You've just you can't conceal that anymore. And there's some value into saying like, you know, to your team's supposed to sport you. You guys are screwing me over like routinely. Yeah. And he doesn't really come down that hard on the team specifically. I think he and he may even be echoing the teams frustration to like he says, it's cursed. And you know, he's he's frustrated. I think he also says something like, you know, it's just it's pointless or feels hopeless at this point. So I would I would feel that way. If I was you know, his team too. So I don't know. I just can't say the engines cursed. Yeah, it's true. That is true. In the end, though, Ricardo's departure is not enough for all of our staff and comes home the winner. And in fact, was setting purple sectors right up to the end and his team had to tell him to slow downs of his engine. Didn't explode federal second Reichen in third, but it is all about Lewis Hamilton. Really weird radio message from Will Smith. Yeah. Saying that's how you do it. Maybe just like I taught you didn't just like his driver coach. Yeah. He's fucking Mr. Miyagi for f one this whole time teaching him the ours of race crafts through his movies and TV shows and also perhaps the two thousand head big Willie style. Or will any remember it was called? Yeah. Wheel indium. How we are. We okay without now will any m the willan hit the charts. Fuck I thought it was a great moment with with Hamilton and federal in the stadium. That'll came up in like his. His gave him some kind words hand arm over the shoulder. Lot of smiles it was it was nice Lewis didn't run away like a like a broken a in a video game. Like he did last year. Remember, he just like ran fucking down. God. No, well, like he's just ran into like, the Serena or something it was very very strange. He ran the wrong way like like complete the lap of the track and like fans were jumping over and congratulating, which I guess he did this time as well where he ran to the guard before he got Wade, and they had to like drag them back like you could have been disqualified. They put this spanners in his pockets, you know, way. Exactly, there's a cool a cool video on channel where it's just a gopro mounted two guys chest who's on the Mercedes team. And he's the he's the guy that like has to put the steering wheel back on the car collect Hamilton's helmet and stuff. And so you get this cool like uncut behind the scenes moment to moment of what it was like for the team to go like out to where Lewis was cruising Hans with him. And then come back to the garage. It's it's cool. Like that in the show notes as well. But yeah, you you get a good moment with him in federal that'll also even went to the Mercedes garage and congratulated everyone. So that was that was a cool moment. Hamilton's news. Thanks the next. He's like thanks to take the next races off. Exactly. He was being interviewed by coal tar. And then like waved his trainer over they hugged. You know? It was good. I liked it. And I like the season it's not over yet. But it is for for all Louis coming in fourth in this race behind for stepping battle and Reichen voucher boat toss coming in fifth Nico. Berg behind them. Followed by LeClair van Dorn Ericsson and gas leak coming in tenth. Followed by Okon stroll Sirotkin Hartley Magnusson and grow John finishing very far behind. The was not this is not a Hoss track. Apparently. Ricardo Perez signs and Alonzo not classified in this race. Also stroll hit mechanic, they were fined by. Yeah. If I a for twenty five thousand euros. And that was the Mexican grand prix. And that was the championship. Podcast over we're done by here. I'm glad that it was extended by the US GP went onto to Mexico. I think you know, Mexico is a fine race as well. But to just have that little dusting on top was cool. Yeah. It's a long season. So we all most got to the end, you know, we've to race is last head of the what was twenty one this year. Like, let's not that they've ended sooner than Nash. So thanks to Sebastian for making making a race out of given at the college try, you know, what I mean? I don't think any of us one second half at a season kicking in. And I was like any of us really thought it was going to happen. But it was nice to believe that all is on the rest of the the it'll be fun to watch everyone else sort of shake out because is a couple of decent ball's going on there in in the in the the driver tables at least. Speaking of driver tables, forcing has confirmed that Sergio Perez will dry for them again in two thousand nineteen they've not confirmed. They're number two. Although it is probably stroll because his dad Bob team. Because you've got mechanics for days on come on over. Williams has not confirmed. They're number two, nor has tore also. And Marcus Ericsson is going to IndyCar. Oh, that's that's what's up with drivers. Speaking of other series is formula three I didn't know this was happening, but they have revealed their twenty nineteen teams. And also the fact that formula three is kind of revamping their merging, the F I formula three European championship and the GP three series into a more codified sane formula three which is more of a direct path to formula to direct path from the one before this. It was kinda like they had these. I think they will still have the. Regional formula threes, but it was weird because there was a European regional formula three. But it was also like the the best one that everyone wanted to go to and I think even some of the rules were different. It was strange. Right. Don't quote me on any of that. I haven't looked I stayed away from it because it was so confusing. But now, this makes a lot more sense. It's just called formula three. There is no more European championship or GP threes just formula three and a lot of the seven of the teams are also teams in formula too. So. Yeah. More more. Direct path to Formula one speaking of people on their way to Formula one Tatyana Calderon who is the test driver for sour got her. First Ephron run this week. She drove a one hundred kilometers filming day on Tuesday. And actually said that the car feels more comfortable than. The car she drove in GP three or two because of the power steering. He's. Go on sorry. I was just going to move on. But yeah, not and the last bit of news here launched a free mobile racing game for I'm not sure if it's on Android. It's fine. You know, what it is? It's you know, tilt to steer internet is required. Which is really strange. They renamed their card game two F one pack rivals, which I thought was hacker. Cool not that get your Marcus Eric's card while you can. I feel for. Yeah. Before I mean, he's not like this fifteen and F one. Longsuffering sort of like minot of the pack ks room Sauver. What like is there to say? I feel like I feel bad for him. I feel like LeClair obviously, a lot more points this year than him on that team. And he sort of never really let the set the world on fire. It was always like witty get in the top ten and a nice say bye bye. Thanks for the memories. So you're trying to be nice, Danny? But you set this poor guy up for an Ethan ring here. Just anybody does anybody have anything to say about if anyone remember any what air? Anyone? I mean like this is weird. I I remember he showed some nice race craft at times. He's he's he's shown some this season. Erickson, you know, t two point were answering question Erickson doesn't have a lot of a lot of catastrophic moments that I can remember like Eriksson didn't earn a bad reputation. But neither did he particularly stand out. You know, I guess he is sort of the example of you do need to do something to distinguish yourself and and establish a rap, and I just am not sure he, you know, for a lot of years. He didn't have a car that would really let you make too much of an impression. And I think that probably served him pretty poorly as well. And then by the time that car did start come around. He was overshadowed by a teammate who is marked for far greater things. And now that team is going to be moving onto the next talent going to, cultivate, and sure is an Eric. Som. And so he's one of those journeymen drivers who didn't make the the leap to the next level. And you know, I be awesome. It's funny when you watch other forms of motor sport. How often you'll recognize old f one drivers names up shaky? Like in the IndyCar, but in touring car racing and Durance racing. Hopefully, he does sort of fun place where his sort of stability and reliability is a little more valued than it is enough one. But as enough one driver, I think, you know, he was always going to be one of those drivers who was who was present among great drivers. But never one of. Yeah. Making up the numbers of it. All of God. I brought that up. Sorry, marcus. He is seventeenth in the driver championship. That good. True. He's two hundred eighth teammate there. He's like. Behind twenty points, less. Yeah. Yeah. That's the only thing I can think about why did this really about crushing Italy? That's true where you turned in the cards runs turned in before the first turn. Let's go. I don't know. I mean, we he was a pay driver for a long time. Right. He comes with money. And so that's wasn't that the thing about why he was always omnipresent at these teams. Because I looked at bit like Nico Rosberg. So people just thought it was Nico. For like three years. Didn't you quit? Yeah. No still here. And I pay. Have you rob? It was finally nice to see him like actually able to execute some race craft in a more competitive car. But apparently not enough not enough to save is to save the seat. Enough to save his seat though. Hamilton winning the drivers championship with three hundred and fifty eight points, but got to ninety four. So it's pretty safe to say he's in second. Reichen has to thirty six close behind him as bowtie two twenty seven for staff got to sixteen and then a little further down Ricardo with one forty six. Hokum Burks got sixty nine Peres has fifty seven Magnusson with fifty three Alonzo intent with fifty. That's impressive. Okan's got forty nine by the way, Peres and Okon had their points reset halfway through the season science with forty five grow John's got thirty one ghastly with twenty nine LeClair with twenty seven. That's a tight grouping there. Van Vandort got twelve Ericsson with nine stroll with six Hartley with four. Sirotkin with one hardly really gotta have. He's got a win the next couple races. I think to keep his seat. Mercedes has five eighty five points for our with five thirty. So the constructors championship is still up in the air. I saw a grid on Reddit or something. With how Reseda could win and it's about it was a lot of squares. But about a third of the squares were and third or two thirds of the squares where Mercedes so that's about the chances. They have. Red bull with three sixty two Reynaud with one fourteen. Haas has genus videos, eighty four points. Mclaren's got sixty to force India with forty seven sours got thirty six screw that. Total hersal has thirty three and Williams with seven. Fantasy standings. You can join us at the shift of one official fantasy from the league with the invite code zero be six to e- in the show notes touch it onto his races left. Sweden McCreevy out in front with twenty five hundred points. Followed behind him. Is Bobby Ondo racing. Made in Haas, orange speaking F one Reynaud, you didn't. Oh my God. Blue does elite screws area. Matteo David Coulthard's chin fill F one and trend setters. I'm all the way down in one hundred thirty six. Works. Thank you. I don't know what is happening out in backyard of this Airbnb. That's the happens. That's Kathy Lou emerges from the Irish Sea and moans Addis usually around this time on a weekday. So great. You can also hit us up on Twitter podcast for new show updates any fun F one stuff. We run across at drew Scanlon on Twitter. Danny I'm at Danica wire on every Zecchini at rubs acne. Shoutouts again to everyone who said Danny Dwyer better watch out he's going to get some competition for the ending of upcoming shift. If one podcast zoom noises. That is do send Jake AA spooks MacKenzie. Nice Halloween themed name. Thanks, everybody. Who wrote in and said, hey around the internet. But now it's time to see what other racing is happening around this weekend around the world and God's it's time to raise. Here we're kicking off Friday with Camping World truck at the Texas Motor Speedway in Fort Worth t x four the Longhorn three fifty. Supercars Suba a racing for the IT m Auckland super sprint race. In an actually got an Email from latch Auckland saying. Hey, drew, if you're planning on mentioning the Auckland super sprint in New Zealand as part of your round up this week. I thought I'd just were knew about the pronunciation of the place. They're racing at because it can be a bit of a toughie for my untrained ear. You seem to do pretty well for Nessie of other languages, generally so apologies. If this message is unnecessary. It is not. Anyway, the town is. Poopie cohe. Pokey cohe, it's not pure as inviolate. So keep up the great work looking forward to the next episode. Thank you, latch, -i Pacheco. He what would you have said? Puka coke hooked, polka puke puke. Coke co it's it's like Saturday morning after you've had a little bit too much of the white stuff. Cheap e is that seeping international circuit in Malaysia or the Malaysian motorcycle. Yes. My favorite unimpeded racetrack. And this car is also in Tejas at the Motor Speedway the upon us Motor Speedway the Texas Motor Speedway for the triple a Texas five hundred. I really thought you're about to Claire like the upon them five hundred and I was gonna be like damn NASCAR. That is a way not get a sponsor. Placeholder five hundred not quite as good at the long more than three fifty. But we'll take it. And that is it. We do not have a Formula one race this weekend because back next week with our pre Brazil episode. You can also send us some e mails Schiff one. I'm sorry. Went dot cool slash emails. We'll be reading more of those in the next episode. So as always you can find our show notes on F, one dot cool. And until next time I under Scanlon that is Danny O'Dwyer that is rubs acting. If you want to support Danny and I were both on patriot me Petri dot com slash cough map. Danny patriot accomplish clip. You can find a Robert his day job at Waypoint dot vice dot com. Anything else, rob? No, I'm just I'm just beginning. My end of season ritual, which is Robbie Kuby to watch. What I'm going to list? Can we do it comedia- segments because we've all these baked segments that I have just by virtue of being the only other person who did this for a while. But the YoM and all that race around the world and shit. Can we do cO bits of watch rob every week being in? I think there's a chance that because really frustrating and sense though, like. That needs to end with him getting like a racing seat right weeks. He's the weeks. He's not doing anything. You just make some shit though. I no one's gonna. No, that's true. This having a basket of kittens. Perfect out to Robin. Then everyone away point for the awesome, charity stuff. You did last week. I think it was was it. I was last. Yeah. And actually the sorry that was not meant as a segue. There's a perfect one. We will also be streaming live four charity this weekend. Over Anjar bomb dot com. I know they will there will be embeds in there. Also, Danny you are what's your Twitter filter? Twits dot TV slash dining Dwyer. I think you're on Monday. Right. And then I'm on Tuesday. Yes. That is correct. Yeah. You're doing twelve hundred twelve I think. Yeah. I will be dot com slash cloth map. But again, I think all of us will be embedded in the giant mom chat. If you're unfamiliar with extra life. It is we play video games for extended periods of time to raise money for children's hospitals. So if you wanna see us live and in person. Over the internet playing video games. You can do that on Monday. So join us for that. And join us next week have a good race weekend. Everyone we will see all next time.
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Ep. 242 - The Case For The Death Penalty
Anti semitic bigot murdered eleven and injured. Six Jews worshipping at a Pittsburgh synagogue on Saturday. The media are blaming Donald Trump to shoot or hates Donald Trump. And Donald Trump wants to kill the shooter. We will analyze the case for the death penalty. Then Barack Obama reminds us why we forgot about him. Hillary Clinton gets ready for twenty twenty and the Simpsons kill Abu if I hadn't stopped watching the Simpsons twenty years ago. I would totally stop watching them now on Michael Knowles. And this is the Michael null show. So much to get to today. A lot of horrible news, maybe some silver lining, if you can think about some of the Justice that maybe we'll be able to get out of this. But really really tough news cycle. So before we delve into all of it. Let's make a little bit of money. Honey. Let's welcome to my boudoir. You are in my boots war right now. Because I am on the road. I'm in Huntsville, Alabama will be speaking tonight at the university there. 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And they've got a lot of other great free gifts on the website. Text co Fe C O V F E F E to forty seven forty seven forty seven. That is the only way to get this free pillow. You've got to text. Do it right now pullover? I don't care where you are. Text FICO V E f e two forty seven forty seven forty seven that is C O the to forty seven forty seven forty seven. Okay. Let's jump right into this news cycle. There was this horrific shooting over the weekend. This was the largest scale attack on Jews in American history. Apparently there were eleven people. Killed six people wounded, it was at the synagogue in Pittsburgh and the guy was he's not a lunatic. I mean, he's got to be a little bit looney to do anything like this. But this guy is an out and out anti semitic bigot. He's written about this. He's posted all over social media about this right now, the website gab GAB, which is the non censoring Twitter is under fire because they don't censor people. So this guy was on it. And that's what happens when you don't censor people bad guys, you know. You know, say their point of view that doesn't mean that when you don't censor people. People will go out and commit crimes. It also doesn't mean that when you censor people people won't commit crimes, obviously, the two are not related to speech in the act or categorically different, but gab is under fire for this. I mean, this guy had a plan. This guy had a perverse ideology, he went out, and he did it. So what are the media doing their immediately blaming Donald Trump? They've been blaming Trump and Republicans now for a couple of weeks because there was that wacko down in Florida who was mailing the pipebombs. And so now, they're blaming Trump for this guy to it is worth pointing out this guy, apparently despised Donald Trump. He didn't vote for Donald Trump. He posted on social media use that I've never voted for Donald Trump. I've never owned a maga- hat. I have never touched a maga- hat. I don't like him because Trump likes juice too, much apparently. And this is another aspect of the story that's been lost by the media. Which is that this administration is the most pro Jewish administration probably in American. History. Apparently that was part of this guy's gripe with him is that Donald Trump first of all Donald Trump's daughter, converted to Judaism, Donald Trump's son-in-law is Jewish. He put his son in law and daughter in law and George apparently of Middle Eastern policy or trying to resolve the Israel Palestine conflict. He obviously followed through on a long-standing promise of American presidents that no one had ever followed through on Donald Trump move, the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, which is the capital of Israel. They built a train station for the guy in Jerusalem. There's a Donald Trump train station. So I think the media turning this and trying to say that somehow the Republican party conservatives or Donald Trump or anti semitic. That is insane. However, the reason that they can get away with it is that this shooter was anti-immigrant is they're saying he's anti immigrant and conservatives want to limit some immigrants conservatives want to limit immigration, all Americans virtually all Americans want to stop. Legal immigration because it's obviously against our laws and a violation of the country. So see he's anti immigrant. They they don't want illegal immigration. See they're the same. It's really cynical, and it's really gross. But that's how they get away with it. Because there is that aspect to this guy's ideology, such as it was really is just bigotry and racial hatred. But President Trump I thought responded pretty well to this. And he's getting a lot of pushback, even though I thought the response was exactly great, which is that we need to zap this guy. This guy needs to be executed by the state as the carriage of Justice through capital punishment. Here's Donald Trump. One thing we should do is we should stiffen up our laws in terms of the death penalty when people do this. They should get the death penalty. And they shouldn't have to wait years and years. Now, the lawyers will get involved anybody that doesn't thing. Like this to innocent people veteran temple or church. We had the so many incidents with churches. They should really suffer the ultimate price. They should pay the ultimate rice. I felt that way for a long time. Absolutely, right. This is absolutely right. And it's shocking to me that people on the left and the right or disagreeing with the case for the death penalty has never been stronger. And yet I hear even hear conservatives say I posed the death penalty. I was on a panel at politic on Charlie Kirk was sitting next to me. I like Charlie a lot. But he he says I oppose the death penalty because I'm pro-life. And I just don't think this argument is very strong the case for the death penalty has never been stronger, especially now that we have technological advances that can exonerate people who have been wrongly accused, especially that we have technological advantage that can put a perpetrators and convict. We can place them at the scene of the crime. We can know that they were there with relative certainty that cases never been stronger, but our culture right now is so confused, and we don't have a vocabulary to talk about moral issues. So we say, you know, pro-life, that's the slogan. But of course, this is not a precise way of talking about things. It's the same with torture. You. You know, I think people here death penalty, and because we have feelings I culture, they say, oh death is bad. So I'm against death. So Nanno death death is bad because it doesn't sound doesn't feel good. Same with torches. I'm against torture. As though this is some morally clear position to hold. But that isn't the case, you know, just just to use the example of torture. The reason that we don't torture enemy soldiers is well, it's because we've all agreed to something called the Geneva conventions. But the purpose of that the reason that we don't torture enemy soldiers is to protect civilians in times of war. That's why we don't torture enemy soldiers is we say, look if you won't attack civilians if you won't target civilians in times of war. We will give you certain protections certain pleasantries, you know, you won't be tortured. You won't be detained in this way. You'll you'll have this this aspect of Justice. Okay, fine. So some people want to extend that and say that we shouldn't torture terrorists. But that of course, undermines the. The entire case for the Geneva conventions that undermines the entire case for not torturing soldiers because terrorists by definition, targets civilians to advance their political agenda. So if we start extending Geneva Convention protections to terrorists, we undermine the whole purpose of the Geneva Convention, we undermine the whole purpose of saying, if you don't target civilians, we won't do certain things to you. We'll give you certain pleasantries. If we start offering that to everybody, then there is no incentive and more civilians are going to die and more civilians are going to get hurt. It's the same thing with the death penalty. He's right now, we always focus when you talk about criminal Justice criminal Justice reform, we talk about rehabilitating criminals. So that's the purpose. You know, they go to jail they go to prison to be rehabilitated. And that's true. There is a rehabilitative purpose of punishment and of the Justice system. But that's not the only purpose. That's not the only aspect of Justice. There are at least two others in probably three. There's a. Retribution? There's retributive Justice punishing people because they did the crime. There's rehabilitation there's deterrence you can try to deter further crimes, and then there's defending society from the criminals who have committed these acts, Adam Smith, great economist and great moral philosopher said mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent when we're talking about states in criminal Justice systems. So you'll hear I was at a school the other night, August Stanford University in South Dakota. And someone said you shouldn't you oppose the death penalty? It's more expensive to pursue the death penalty than to pursue life in prison and say, okay, who cares? Who cares? So it's I mean, and he's right by the way between one thousand nine hundred nine and nine hundred ninety seven the cost of pursuing the death penalty against somebody was about a quarter of a million dollars from the beginning of the trial to zapping him. It was about a quarter of a million dollars between one thousand nine hundred and two thousand four that. Number jumped to six hundred twenty six hundred twenty one thousand dollars as the median. So that is a huge increase. It's more than doubled. Okay. Fine drop in the bucket doesn't really matter. Also, we don't execute that many people which is part of the problem of this debate. So the so far this year. I think the in various states we've executed eighteen people seven more are set to be executed this year. It looks likely that only six more will be executed. So you're looking at twenty four or two per month. The majority of death sentences are not carried out in the United States since nineteen Seventy-three sixteen percent of people who have been sentenced to death have actually been executed. So eighty four percent have not been executed and of the people who remain on death row. They've not been pardoned. They've not been had their convictions overturned, they've not had this or that. Or the other thing a full seventy five percent of them or have not been executed only. Twenty five percent who remain on death row have been executed. So there is an aspect of this which. Might be cruel and unusual punishment. But it's not the death penalty. That's another argument that people try to make they say, it's cruel and unusual. Absolutely. Not. It's been carried out by every government for all of human history everywhere at the time of the ratification of the constitution when we were talking about cruel unusual punishment everywhere had the death penalty, it was virtually the definition of a felony. Now. Life in prison might be cruel and unusual. It might be cruel unusual to sentence someone to death. And then have them waiting for thirty years languishing. They've already made peace with dying, but there's a little glimpse of hope or this or I mean that might be maddening that might be grown unusual. I can totally understand getting rid of that. But we shouldn't. We shouldn't speak in a confused way about the death penalty. There are many good purposes for it. So we know it does deter crime, by the way there have been studies about this since nineteen sixty eight general deterrence theory, but then studies in the nineteen seventies. Even recent studies that show that the death penalty deters crime and in places where it's shown not to deter crime very much of one likely cause of that is that the death penalty isn't actually carried out. So it's deterrent effect isn't very strong. But we know in places where the death penalty is carried out quickly where it's carried out swiftly that the deterrent effect is significantly stronger. So it does have that as a as a defensive society, obviously by definition, it defends society because you're taking the criminal, and you're setting up a meeting with his maker only God can judge, but we can arrange the meeting, and then finally there is retribution there is you know, when when the terrorists killed three thousand Americans on September eleventh two thousand and one President Bush sat in the Oval Office. He spoke to the American people. And he said these attacks Phyllis with horror with great sadness, and with a quiet unyielding anger that unyielding anger might be expressed in a couple of ways that might be expressed because we just want a little revenge fine. But that's not what retribution retributive punishment. Does. We also are angered because of the in Justice of that. And what retribution and retributive punishment? Does is not gets revenge. But it corrects the error of the miscarriage of Justice. It goes some way toward restoring a balance of Justice more on this in a second. But first, we've got to think another another sponsor and make a little money Honey, and I can feed you we have got blue apron. Oh, how I miss blue apron. I've been on the road for a week. Now, I've been just living in a gutter eating fast food, and it's gross. And I feel fat and horrible. I can't wait to get home and eat my blue apron. Blue Apron's mission is to make incredible home cooking accessible to everyone. You can. Make dinner in his little twenty minutes. Even if you're me, you know, even if you're a guy who doesn't cook very much. You can do it very quickly. They send you top quality ingredients. It is as good as anything you're gonna get a lot better than what I would get when I would go to the grocery store, and they send you these cool recipes that are always changing. So you're not going to get sick of anything. You're not going to be repeating recipes. 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You know to look at those people who were slain in Pittsburgh worshiping because a bigot because of a wicked evil bigot came in there and slaughter them in cold blood in the house of God. While they were praying. One feels a quiet unyielding anger in one feels in need to in any way. Restore a balance of Justice. We also want to protect society. We also want to deter. Further acts, and I hope that this guy can get rehabilitated. Well, he's waiting to hang because it will be very good for his soul. I don't care that much on much more interested in the other aspects of Justice on this, but he should hang and it should be swift. And if we're going to have criminal Justice reform, the first thing we should reform is reinstituting that Justice because our current death penalty regime is not particularly just obviously the media or blaming Donald Trump. This has been going on for a long time. Those those pipebombs sent by the worst bomber ever this looney toon extra per from Florida. The media were referring to those bombs as Trump targets bombs. So they say, oh, yes. Bombs were sent to Trump targets as though, you know, Donald Trump with their mailing the packages themselves. This creates a big issue. I mean, look they're even doing it with this guy who shot oldest people in the synagogue, and they're saying they're trying to connect him in some way to Trump even though he hated Trump in front page him and wants to kill him. We should not do this in our political rhetoric. It's a really bad idea. And I'll point out Donald Trump is pretty reckless sometimes in the way, he speaks. He actually hasn't really been reckless on this. And he explains it when the left has committed lunatic fringe acts of violence, the right has not really exploited it here. He is explaining the difference. What a Bernie Sanders supporter dried you murder. Congressional Republicans and severely wounded a great man name, Steve Scalise and others. We did not use that. Hey, this attempt at mass murder for political gain because that would have been on. It would have been the wrong thing to do. That's right. That would have been the wrong thing to do. It's the right thing to do to remind them that you did the right thing because you won't get credit for doing the right thing. Unless you tell them that you did the right thing, which is a little boastful and might seem like the wrong thing. But it is the right thing, I assure you. But this is absolutely right. You don't want to take these fringy lunatic examples and try to pretend that they're Representative of the whole group that is what the left does. And so you'll we've been talking about left wing violence all over this country. But we're not talking about the congressional baseball game guy. We're talking about the mobs of people who have gone out into the street threatened. Conservatives harassed them assaulted them go onto their homes where their children sleep and further. We weren't even really talking about that too much. We'd we didn't talk about antifa, a whole lot until the elected democrat leaders encouraged all of it and not just one of them. Not even just Maxine Waters, but waters holder Booker, Hillary Clinton all of them. They're trying to take. They're trying to wait one radical fringe guy who did an evil thing. And not talk about it as evil per se, which it is. But try to pain to a conservatives or a right wing Republicans that way. Whereas on the left, it is the mainstream that they have to answer for this is also one of the truly off last Bex of identity politics, which is that in the United States after the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies. There really wasn't a much of a white racial consciousness in American politics. It had really been wiped away the US had gone a long way over the course of about one hundred years eighteen sixty to nineteen seventies to wipe away the sins of slavery, and the du jour inequalities and discriminations that were wrought by those systems, and there wasn't really a white racial consciousness. And there were there were some fringe writers who actually called for one. They said we need a white racial consciousness and people said, no absolutely not we reject identity politics, but then the left has forced a white racial identity, which is which is unfortunate because by embracing identity. Politics as their means of ascent as their means of consolidating political power on the left. They have forced a white racial identity. It only only makes sense if you're going to try to say that we have what is it a coalition of the ascendant? You've got all of these people in your explicitly appealing to their skin color or to their ethnic heritage or whatever. And you're uniting them by saying that there's a common enemy in what? Now, we jokingly refer to as the straight white male two straight white sister, gender male, the straight white, which is an absurd term that. I try not to use this straight white male who thinks that he's a male or whatever if that is the personification of evil, then you're going to create an identity around those groups, you you've done it. The left has done it. We didn't do it. We didn't paint. This guy is the worst guy on earth or that color or this woman, or this gender, whatever we didn't paint that as the personification of evil, but the left in order to assemble their identity politics coalition had to do that. And. As a result, you see a white racial consciousness or remain male sexual consciousness. I don't know. It's pretty stupid. It isn't good. When the left does. It isn't good when the right doesn't but the left is going to make it inevitable. The left is going to force this to be inevitable, and that is a really ugly and blame lies there. So if we're going to stop identity politics, which I strongly encourage everybody's got to do it, otherwise, otherwise, it's simply going to grow. It is only going to fester. It's only going to get worse and it is zero sum game. It is truly gutter politics, and they're going to keep it up. I mean, you know, talk about the Bernie, bro guy. We're not talking about the were Bernie, bro as the main. We've got one shot up. The congressional baseball game. We're not talking about that is the mainstream of the Democratic Party. But the New York Times is in the New York Times just last week published assassination porn published this novel. Alleged novelist. I've never read any of her works. Obviously Zoe sharp who wrote a whole piece fantasizing about the secret service, assassinating Donald Trump. That wasn't published on gab that wasn't published on some fringe social media wacky board that was published in the New York Times, and that is a huge distinction. There isn't a moral equivalency here. And you've got to be able to do it it requires moral clarity. I know that it is insane to suggest that Donald Trump playboy for thirty years, you know, tabloid legend somehow has some moral clarity here. But he does when you see an active like the shooting of that synagogue. You've got to kill that guy by the arm of the state because of Justice Justice demands, many kinds of Justice demand that when you see these heinous identity, politics and ideologies that come from that you've got to call it out for what it is. And you've got to reject it. You've got to reject it full-throatedly wholeheartedly not just for one guy. Why not just for one group? But for everybody, you know, in speaking of the fringes versus the mainstream Barack Obama he's out on the campaign trail again. And he is perfectly identifying this distinction because he is out there calling Donald Trump a shameless liar. He is. When I'm talking to Michelle. Sometimes I'm like on demand that you see all the dishes, and she's all like. But that's like the first time you've done that in the week. What's what did you do wrong? And I said well. We all do that to some degree. Right. I mean, it's human nature. But we have not seen before. Cool. A recent public life. At least is politicians just blatantly repeatedly. Baldly seamlessly. Making stuff up. Calling up now. Calling doctors that you can't keep doctors that you can keep calling terrorist attacks in our consulate in Benghazi a spontaneous response to a YouTube. Wait a minute. No. We have seen all of that. From you from you, you shameless cynical leftist hack shoe Kogyo machine. Oily every time he opens his mouth, Donald Trump gets ten thousand votes. That's how it works. I can't wait. I hope the NRC the NRA see the orange the all the GOP all of the conservative institutions are paying Barack Obama's speaker fees because every time he opens his mouth, we get a lot closer to winning in the midterms and in the twenty twenty election, by the way, I'd just like to make a point people always talk about Iraq, Obama what a what a rhetorician. Oh, he's the greatest orator since parak- lease. Oh, what wonderful soaring speeches from Barack Obama compared to Donald Trump who can't even spell on Twitter. First of all, I was never horribly impressed by well. I wasn't maybe I was horribly impressed. But I was never I never terribly much admired, President Trump speeches with one or two exceptions. But listen how we open to that. You know, the guy who apparently possesses this tremendously, advanced and superior command of the English language. He opens up he says, you know, sometimes I'm all like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then Michelle she's all like, blah, blah, speaking like a little millennial girl, and I'm like, and then she was like, and then he was like this. And then I feel I just feel like LA, LA, LA, LA, LA. But obviously the essence of this is absurd because when you compare Barack Obama's lies to Donald Trump's lies. There is no comparison, they are utterly different. He's saying the Donald Trump shamelessly lies shamelessly. He has he is exaggerated the truth. I'm willing to say that you said a couple of things that quite literally are not true. You know, what what does he do? He exaggerates a crowd size every now and again, he exaggerates this. I mean, he's been doing this whole career. It's huge. It's going to be the biggest the greatest. Okay. That's that is what Donald Trump does his allies. Graduating how many people came to his rally, by the way, tens of thousands one hundred thousand people come to his rallies, and he exaggerates it by ten thousand and they call it a lie. What are Barack Obama's lies like they're like, hey, you can't keep your doctor? Like like like, you know, and I'm like, and he's like, those are those are what those lies are like he says that you can keep your doctor, then he upends a sixth of the US economy, and you can't keep your doctor. He says that an attack on our consulate was caused by some poor guy who made a YouTube video we're little YouTube video that nobody saw in reality. It was terrorists in a preplanned premeditated attack on September eleventh September eleventh twenty eleven or twenty twelve twenty twelve those are totally different. Giving me the guy who lies about the crowd size any day of the week. Another another great lie that Brooke Obama told is he said in an interview he said that Donald Trump will never be president. You'll never be president. Donald those the best lie he ever told. I'm actually quite a fan of that lie because he got that one wrong if you know, okay? I guess if we had to have a liar as president. I I'm glad he was wrong about that. But broadly, speaking a lot of this comes because the left has not let reality dawn on them. They're still running around in these fantasies. Barack Obama's still going out there pretending that he is a rockstar pretending that it's two thousand six two thousand seven before he even ever ran that he's the rockstar compare the crowd sizes that Obama gets to the people that Donald Trump gets how many orders of magnitude smaller is the Obama crowd than the Donald Trump crowd. They're still running around in these fantasies like people haven't caught on. And the perfect example of this. The, you know in a tough new cycle really something that could give us all hope that can give us a little little smile. A little joy is former future prisoner and Hillary Clinton planning out twenty twenty here shoes. Well, I'd like to be president. I think hopefully when we have a democrat and Oval Office in January of twenty twenty one there's going to be so much work to be done. I mean, we have confused everybody in the world including ourselves, and we have confused our friends, and our enemies, they have no idea what the United States stands for what we're likely to do what we think is important. So the work would be worked that I feel very well prepared for having done in the Senate for eight years having been a diplomat in the State Department, and it's just going to be a lot of heavy lifting. You're going to be doing any of that. Let's do you feel like, oh, I have no idea care, but I'm going to I'm not going to even think about it until we get through this November six election about what's going to happen after that. Well, I'm not going to think about oh. Well, we are Ilori don't where we're going to think about it right now. And we go to the ballot box November six I love how she opens at your said. Well, you know, I would like to be president. You don't say or you heal Hillary Clinton the girl who's been in politics since she was twelve the girl who dis- basically launched her campaign to run for president when she graduated from Wellesley the woman who's run now for president on two separate occasions and really ran as her husband's co-presidents on other to. Okay, you want to be president Hillary. I'm shocked to hear that the really telling aspect of this is when she says we've confused everybody. We've confused our friends we've confused our allies. We've confused our enemies. Yes, you have. Yes. You did that I think that was a Freudian slip where you say one thing, but me, and your mother, I think she certainly has confused a lot of people. But it's the left that it's confused them. Just use that line. We've confused our allies and our friends the. Obama administration while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state confused, our enemy Iran as a friend confused him as a free they sent pallets of cash they allowed Iran to humiliate or sailors they gave them the keys to a future nuclear weapon. That's not all all the while abandoning our ally in Israel, all the while funding a campaign opponents fun sending operatives over to try to unseat, the prime minister of Israel, an awful relationship with them, how confusing is it when the Democrats have been running for the last two years about Donald Trump's collusion with the Russians and yet during the entirety of the Obama administration. The US went soft on the Russians the US. Joked Brock Obama made fun of Mitt Romney for saying that Russia was an adversary. He said well met the Cold War. Not today's called they want their foreign policy back. Oh, Brock Obama. The you know, how about when Hillary Clinton signed off to sell uranium to Russian interests about that. And now now now, I'm quite confused. You're absolutely right now, we're supposed to believe that Saudi Arabia is the worst government on planet earth. And yet during the the Obama administration Saudi Arabia was donating millions and millions of dollars to the Clinton foundation. I'm very confused. You are also very confused Ilori. And fortunately, we've got a little bit of clarity coming out now. And we're tweet treating our friends our friends, and our enemies as our enemies. This is really important. And that what a distinction what a perfect way to explain the difference between now and then between the Trump administration in the Obama administration or before that the Clinton administration. They're the campaigns are zeroing in on this. The Trump campaign has great ads out, and we will examine why is just right out of the Ronald Reagan playbook. Why we're living in the eighties. Again. But we can't do that. Until we go to daily wire dot com. We've gotta check on the caravan to got to talk about the student Bill of rights so much more to get to go to daily wire dot com. The main reason you've got to go to daily wire dot com right now is that my speech is coming up tonight. What time we're I think we're going up at seven thirty central time. Eight thirty eastern time five thirty Pacific time. I'd have three in the morning Hawaii. I don't know. I don't know how to do the other times. It's going to be tonight. Five thirty Pacific eight thirty eastern seven thirty central go over there. The topic will be how to write nothing and sell one hundred thousand copies. I've never told my secret before I've never told the secret to the number one bestselling status of reasons to vote for Democrats at comprehensive guide, I will go through it entirely through the entire history of the wonderful system that let me do all that. But you gotta go daily wire dot com. Why else me you get the replacement? You get the Ben Shapiro show. You have to ask questions in the mail bag. Yet to ask questions in the conversation. That's coming up. None of that matters. I've nearly drowned because this is all I have right now. I have this little paper Cup full of coffee. I don't even have FA in here. I just have coffee because I left my leftist. Here's tumbler back in Los Angeles. If I can make it back to the west coast, I will never be without it again. And and you're going to feel exactly the same way. When you get yours. It is the only FDA approved way of protecting your leftist tears, and it's really important, you know, right now on on Monday. So on today. Subscribers get the another kingdom show. So this is the show that Andrew claybin wrote that I perform all the roles in. They get it on Mondays. Non-members non-subscribers have to wait. And they'll just get the audio on Friday. They don't get all the video. It's not cool. Get it because there is no better way than relaxing on a nice Monday, kicking up your feet long day at work. You got your leftist. Here's tumbler guzzling all this delicious, leftist tears, turn on little conservative, or at least non leftist entertainment. Another kingdom who you're going to be. You're gonna feel snug as a bug in a rug. Go over there right now. We've got a lot more will be right back. So the Trump campaign for twenty twenty which is now in gear. I know it seems like we only focus on the White House. But there is a Trump presidential campaign as well. They have just released an ad that is unoriginal it is entirely unoriginal. And it's excellent. It is exactly what they need to release right now. It also tells us a lot about their political strategy. Let's check it out. Members to twenty three thousand net new jobs created in when I look at the way things are made you and mine's me. How far we've come these numbers? They are depressingly. We'd the punch growing even more slowly than we thought things are starting to change. Opportunity. Security to invest in the ones that matter. It only goes up from there only ends with violins playing. And it's obviously showing how much better things are. Now. Does that look familiar does that look familiar you for probably not to you? Because I think the median age of my audience is like two and a half years old. For people for the other part of the audience. It's a little older you probably remember that from the nineteen Eighty-four. Ronald Reagan campaign. Here's Ronald Reagan's version. It's morning again in America. Today. More men and women will go to work for ever before countries. With interest rates at about half the record. Highs of nineteen eighty nearly two thousand families today will buy new homes more than at any time in the past four years. This afternoon. Sixty five hundred young men and will be married. And it goes on and on from there. But you even hear the same uplifting orchestral music. Just looking at the economy just looking at how things have improved. It's morning in America. And Donald Trump has just releasing his big ad thus far right before the midterms. It's morning in America. And that's the argument. And this is the argument, by the way that President Trump has been talking about since twenty fifteen I think people say he's reckless that he's unpredictable. You can never predict him. It actually turns out he's pretty predictable. And the reason we know this is the guy looked back at the most successful Republican presidential administration and campaign in modern history. Ronald Reagan's and he has copied it almost one for one the make America great against Logan came from Ronald Reagan. He puts a little Trumpian twist on it. Of course, the Reagan was let's make America great again with them. And sure as the let's Trump drops the Letsie makes it imperative you do it make. Erica. Great again. Okay. That's fine. Same exact idea same themes. And now we've got morning in America. Because just like the Reagan administration things have improved dramatically. Now, there's a difference here. The Trump one you might call it higher energy in part. This is because our media have just gotten much more frenzied. So, you know, the quality of the video the pacing the video people don't have attention spans anymore. People want to constantly be Hampton up. Okay. That's part of it. It's also because our culture now is a little more individualistic. So you don't at the you heard about halfway through the morning in America. Reagan. Add people say more men and women are going to get married today than ever before. And now, we don't talk about that. Because marriage is a bad thing in our popular culture. I mean, it's not really it's actually a wonderful thing. I'd be living in the gutter without it. But now the culture is too individualistic. So you saw in that Trump version of it. It was a woman she was woman just doing it. And she was the center she was the. Tag inist. And then her daughter became the protagonist of the ad at the end one. It's because President Trump wants to appeal to women he wants to repeal in particular to young people in part. This is a little bit of identity politics. It has become unfashionable to put old white man in things this is, you know, as we discussed before old white men or the great enemy of the popular culture. So you focus on that. But it's the same message. That is applying that message to the present day, and you got to remember that nine hundred eighty campaign from Reagan was a huge campaign, and it was a huge victory. And then what happened in eighty four? He won every single state with the possible exception of Minnesota. I had. Spoke to a chief strategist on that campaign. He insists that they won Minnesota too. But they didn't wanna look like sore losers. But they more or less swept the country. And I think President Trump has just counting on that. You know, he he's a ironically a pretty rational guy in the campaign is at least being run pretty rationally. And I mean that in in so much as when Donald Trump looks at what issues to focus on he he just sort of seize what issues people care most about he in a way that other conservatives other Republicans didn't figure it out. He realizes people hate illegal immigration. Why weren't why wasn't every Republican running on an extreme position on that? I don't know. I couldn't tell you why they felt that you couldn't get away with it. Maybe the culture was against them. The media would they were afraid of the media. I don't know President Trump isn't and and I suspect this will be successful. Unless of course, the economy tanks. And then you know, all is lost. But it really does show those parallels. And it's really great because I missed the nineteen eighty s so I'm glad that I can live through it again. All right. Let's check back in on our caravan. This crazy caravan marching toward the the US Mexico border. Do we have an image of it? I can't hear all those home durins traffic people look gross the border do. Boop. Boop. Boop. Boop. I always whenever we hear caravan. I just think of that van Morris. And so the good news is it has been reduced in size. So it was up to fourteen fifteen thousand I think now estimates are that it's around seven thousand people highly orchestrated a total stunt by the left. I mean, you'd have to be insane. To think this were a spontaneous uprising, you probably also believe that the attack on Benghazi was a spontaneous response to a YouTube video, we've got the president of Honduras, one Orlando Hernandez admitting that this is an orchestrated leftist stunt that it's not spontaneous Judicial Watch has already gone in and talked to some of these people they've done an investigation, and it appears the way the left wants to present. This is it's mothers and babes just trying to come over to freedom to get asylum. Whatever. But there are a lot of bad Ambriz in here. Guatemalan? Authorities have already recovered seven unaccompanied minors who were just being ferreted across by human smugglers, by human traffickers, bad Hombres could really screw up poor little kids lives, and this is what is being encouraged by the left. This is what the left is applauding. You know, the way that conservatives need to respond to this. I hope President Trump responds in this way is to speak about this in Hort, tugging -ly moral terms. It's good apparently General Mattis as secretary Mattis has approved plans to send troops to the border troops to the border, but we need to speak about this in really moral terms watermelon. Authorities recover seven unaccompanied minors who are being brought across by human smugglers, human, traffickers, scum of the earth where bad things can happen. You know, there was a study by fusion was reported in the Huffington Post that sixty to eighty percent of women. Amnesty International puts the number at sixty percent think fusion puts it at eighty percent. Sixty to eighty percent of women and girls who were brought across that border illegally or raped or sexually assaulted. That's what the left is encouraging when the left is encouraging illegal immigration when the left encourages amnesty. When the the left encourages not enforcing the law. What they encouraging is for sixty to eighty percent of women and girls brought across the border to be raped and sexually assaulted. It's as simple as that. I know that sounds harsh. I know that they don't intend for that. Nobody wants women and girls to be raped. But when you support the policy you were supporting the consequence of the policy and the policy is in defensible once again somehow magically miraculously, the Trump administration has a great moral clarity on this issue. We've got to speak of it this way all around, you know. Because there's people are seeing things in such a narrow shallow way on the death penalty on illegal immigration, even on the culture. Just before we go. Some really sad news. The Simpsons is killing off Apu here to react. We have Apu. Boy, I need you who you might not need the quickey, Mark. But we need, you know, we don't really because people don't watch the Simpsons any more. And they probably haven't since the late nineteen ninety s the Simpsons work right though, in in its heyday, the Simpsons was absolutely terrific. They finally given in. Matt graining all of these other guys who were behind the Simpsons have resisted the calls to get rid of Apu by radical lefty lunatics who are offended on behalf of Indians. Because you know, it's not Indians who are complaining about this. It's decadent white liberals who are complaining it's little white girls. Complaining on behalf of the subcontinent and saying, oh, it's so offensive that Apu is a stereotypical Indian character because he says thank you come again. And this is considered offensive again by little white girls on behalf of Indian people for whom they do not speak. But also if we're going to get rid of stereotypical characters in the Simpsons, what happens to all the other characters in the Simpsons know what happens to that. What happens to the chief of police whose bumbling fat idiot who just eats donuts all the time. What happens to groundskeeper Willie this screaming, angry, violent Scotsman? What happens to the Italian? Chef will looks like he's a Mario what happens to the mob. Boss who portrays Italians as mobsters what happens to the Jews? What happens to every other stereotype in the Simpsons what happens to the Latin American guy in the costume? I kind of forget their names. And it's been awhile since I've seen it. But there are these characters Jewish character Mexican character. Whatever what happens to them. It's just up. It's just up. Right. What is the end game? The end game. Here is the lowest common denominator. You know? I had an experience of this yesterday. I have wonderful friends who are left wing and the vegan. And I've got I've actually got multiple friends who are vegan. Okay. You know? Do what you want the way you wanna live? And so we were going to go get lunch, and they took me to a vegan restaurant now. I'll point out when I take my vegan friends to lunch. I don't take them to a barbecue restaurant. But so they take us to a vegan restaurant. And why why did they do it because we all eat vegetables? We can all eat bread. Right everybody. That's the bear. Minimum of what you can eat. So I said, okay. Well, you can eat that we can't eat meat, but you can eat that. So that's fine. This is the lowest common denominator when somebody in your family, and your friends becomes a vegetarian all of a sudden, everybody's got it become a vegetarian because that's fine. You can you don't need this. You don't need that. You don't need me. You don't need cheese. By the way. I I don't know anymore masochistic cultural trend, Dan veganism to I could do vegetarianism for like a week or two because at least you get cheese and cream and Alfred sauce, or whatever you can veganism is not tenable. It is. I'm deeply skeptical that anybody is actually maintaining that diet regimen. Nevertheless, I digress. It's all this lowest common denominator that's offensive to one person up who was offensive to one person in the world. So we've got to get rid of him. He brings enjoyment to millions of people, but one person's offended. So we gotta get rid of them. The Turkey sandwich is delicious to billions of people on earth. But one person gets offended for the Turkey. The Turkey is upset or something. So okay, we got to get rid of nobody can have anymore. What are we going to end up with? We're going to end up in a perfectly clear white room with no windows, staring at a wall like this. And then someone's going to be offended that it's a white room. So it's gonna have to be a beige room or something and all of the little diversities eccentricities and lovely little aspects of. That gives us enjoyment. We'll be stripped bare, but at least no one will be offended. That's the world that they're proposing. And fortunately, the right offers an alternative, I think this is why the right is finally cool. I think this is why Kanye west now has produced a t shirt line for blacks, it he calls the black exit. This is why he's speaking. And so in bracing, the right is he says there's dragon energy. You says, you know, there's masculine energy. There's this. What what he's really saying is it's enjoyable. It's nice. Jerry Seinfeld is no right winger. He is four from right winger. But you hear him a sailing political correctness because it's just not funny. It's just awful. It's terrible. So I think this is an important message. I'm really sorry to Simpson's caved on this. I mean, I also don't care because I haven't watched it in twenty years. I hope that the rest of the cultural realizes this is a loser issue. This is a loser. Don't I know it seems like the screaming wards? Why don't you get pool where I know it seems like there were a lot of them. There aren't there like five of them. Who cares what they think they'll toughen up they'll get they'll grow out of it. All right. That's our show. We're we're out of time. I'm even running late. Check it out tonight. We're going to be back. Eight thirty eastern five thirty Pacific seven thirty central on how to write nothing and sell one hundred thousand copies, I know that you lost mega millions last week. 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I actually say it out loud. But I think once once or twice. I've managed to do a podcast where I say that and then go, no. And then keep going and right the ship and get the average up above whatever the fuck acceptable amount is. But anyway, ooh. Make it some good blue apron. Blue apron is not my sponsor, but I did have five free deliveries. Left from when they were my sponsor, I think before even left for Asia. And then I got back I stopped my shipments and realize they still these five deliveries. So I start getting them again. It's so fucking good. Blue apron is probably my number one sponsor in terms of like me, actually using their product. Just make easy fucking meals. But they're not paying me. Why am I getting this idiot? Boy idiot these gentlemen, I we got two days left for sober October two fucking days thirty thirty first two fucking days a little under its two forty three A M eastern time. Okay. So anyway, I have leeza. Get traeger has been on the podcast before she is in the new season. The new Netflix series of specials called the degenerates it's filthy comedy. I know every single I already said that. So I'm not going to discover it again. But every single one of these comics LIZA Yama, nica joy Diaz big Jay, Brad, Christina Brzezinski. I think it's all all done this not happening, aka our fears radium storytelling show. Everyone has been on there. Oh, actually recorded to YoM bread. Jane DS for sure Christina for sure. At least. Yeah. Wow. Not just the live version. But. But the recorded version anyway, fucking cool and the two people fucking running the degenerates Eric Abrahams, and Jeff Tomsic were the ones who fucking started that show with me and direct to the show. So fucking read. That's pretty cool. So anyway, I was looking for an excuse to LIZA and to promote her fuck in her. They're all thirty minute. Like, not gross is what I was gonna say. But like dirty comedy. I was looking for an excuse. She's already been on this podcast before. And we're like what about topics and I was like, oh, what about the Simpsons? She is a valid Simpsons fan. I mean, really always like one of the fuck in Maine was I didn't realize how much he was into them. Her whole house is fucking. Started with shit. I mean, it's everywhere. So how do I do this lower? I can't do any lower than it is. So I had this recipe of my fridge for a while. And the beef went bad. So I'm just trying to fill end as a went bad too. I'm just filling with onions. Okay. So we talk about the Simpsons. That's what we talked about the Simpsons one of the greatest shows in the history of television. I'm going to going to get into some in this intro. Some good things isn't bad things. One. I grew up on the Simpsons when I was in. I think fourth fifth sixth grade actually talk about it in the episode. So I'll know then. It was on the Tracey Ullman show. I remember them then I'm older than you might think. I'm forty four. And they were during the Tracey Ullman sketch show, they would have these. These interludes. It was cartoon interlude. And it was the Simpsons really early version of the Simpsons Matt graining spell groaning. But graining the artists they came to him. He he was he was a he had this cartoon a comic strip called life is hell which was great these fucking bunny rabbits who walked upright who are like humans just real dark versions of the world. And they came to him and said, can you do something and he wanna give them life as hell? They wanted that. They didn't want to give them that look life as hell by the way, those cartoons. They're dark and funny. I had a life is health flip book, actually flow, postcards. Dan, I was a long time ago. Anyway, so we did this other call the Simpsons, and then that became so popular what happened to Tracey Ullman became so popular public. Netflix special soon. Maybe sure he did. Became so popular they spun it off into their own thing. I remember being at the Gordon's my next door neighbors and watching one of the early I think Santa's little helper that I that persona. And it was like, wow, it was subversive. It was interesting this video that I'm gonna put on the website are the great dot com. That goes into what happened to the Simpsons for a few years. I mean, like eight years, it was the most interesting show on television. You guys might not remember that now because Phil last twenty two years it has been a kid show. This is video that really broke it down. Well, Senate to Lisa and. I don't think she washed it which is fair because it's sad. It's kind of a. I don't know they should have ended. Why don't think and why didn't Howard Stern fucking tire before he got lame? You know, what didn't the office end as soon as Pam and Jim got together. Why are you guys extending shit just for the money? Call it quits you. Did it be done with it? At least fucking J. K raleigh's is like, yeah, I'm done with this shit now. Right or my wrong. Just extend stuff because it can make cash off at sickening, anyway, the Simpsons is no longer what it was. But for a while it was so God, damn good. I remember when I was in Israel. My friend. Omni Butler sent me was on me or somebody else. Somebody sent me audio cassette of two episodes of Simpson's. I listened to lovingly over and over and over and over and over again. I mean man was it Barfield fourth grade. Possible. It is possible. One of those was that one. And I think it was the Cape fear episode. We would have me and Ali Butler would have this. Why was him when I got back from his who's two years. I went to Israel for two years in seminary. And we got back. We have what we call Symph ests, dude. I love the Simpsons you guys I loved it. We had sim- fest where he record on VHS every episode of the Simpsons that year, and we got back when I got back. We'd have a day. We just make pizza bagels over their place. Spotless always better food than us. My mom was fucking health conscious. Butlers had snack food had like chips. Pringles pizza bagels make her own. We'd cut bagels at half. Get marinate Rousseau's like fucking peasants, mom and dad. Shred mozzarella cheese, actually, adult that's way, better than the fucking. That's way, better than the frozen. I take it back plummet that you guys did a great job. Yuck. Quality come on, especially with that. Kosher. Fucking ready made pizza bagels. And we may pizza. We watch every episode since twenty two which means eleven hours minus commercials. Plus a couple breaks. We're talking about like ten hours all day long from about ten AM to about eight PM. We just watched some that we invited. Everybody people came by for a few hours, then they'd leave. The Manami washed all of them we wash all of them. And I went to is over two years Shana olive Shana bet year one year two if you go Sean bed, that's a sign that you're more religious succeeding in Israel for the first time. So I I actually like had people say good job teachers, you know, so so it was like I wanted to stay again. But man, I was faking it anyway. And then after those two years, I came back on me went to Israel for a year. And I record it all of them for him. So we had three years of sim fast in the fucking best years of the Simpsons. I mean, these were the. Best years. God damn. It was good. So lease and I decided to discuss it LIZA, by the way, you got to watch her on her half hour special. You gotta watch all all these guys are my friends, but she's off. Fearless comic. She goes right at audiences, and they either get with her or they can go fuck themselves. And she doesn't care. That's one of the things. I like most about her. She just doesn't care. She's interested in entertaining. You. You know, like you should be. But even when she was like, I mean, I knew were five six years ago when she was like a new face Montreal may even before that she's probably ten twelve year comic now. But like this was like a five year comic six-year comic. And even then she was like fuck off. She had this attitude that was just great, and she she matched that attitude with the fuck and work ethic. I've always envied her about that are fucking fearlessness onstage. So definitely watch that. We are. She's told me it's mentioned this in the intro. And by the way, all include that that video on the website are the great dot com. That's also all my tour dates. We're doing the biggest tour date. I wanna mention is. While November six at the comedy store in Los Angeles might be sold out. If it's not you guys got us. Get tickets right now. Are you? Sure. Do I mean like right now, I would say go watch the degenerates watch a few golic's leases. But like, right if you wanna go to that in LA on November six voting day, you got if it's not gonna get it. Now, if it has gone all probably be back in. President's day weekend. I think somewhere around there, but I'm doing a live table read of shooter the script I wrote in college, and I'm excited about and guess what we got the play shooter fess BN, Dan soda from the show billions. He's in. They should know nealer in get more comics. It's gonna be fun. Got damage can be fucking basing. Got damnit. I'm like excited and also like scared of how awful it was. I haven't read it in a while. I read it and I'm Mike. I'm like not. I don't know looking forward to it. You know? Let's see tour. And then my European tour starts on. October thirty first at ten AM Dublin time, we were adding tickets for the second show the second show Huilan's at sold out in talking three or four days last time. So again, if you're a doubling get those tickets like right away. But here's my European tour. Reykjavik Iceland, November sixteenth Brighton. That's sold out or no, I think it's like forty tickets left. So jump on that London. Both shows are sold out. Manchester that was moved to the dance house. I think that's sold out two doubles. I said was okay. And then Brussels November twenty six Amsterdam November twenty seventh Stockholm November twenty ninth round gonna see my friend. That I met in Timor Leste day that'll be nice. Stonger? Norway, November thirtieth Berlin. I'm most excited about December. Second. Really cited upper I wanna go to that fucking nightclub. You guys know which one. Copenhagen December fourth where I will see to my friends one that I went hiking with Austria, the summer also want hiking with me, and mar. Selena, that'd be fun Oslo, December fifth Zoric, December ninth. And then from Zurich, I'm going with my brother to a lot and guys the Jerusalem shall become as soon and hopefully Tel Aviv show storytelling show. We'll be coming soon. Too. In addition to that, I have some American stuff, you might wanna go to January sixteenth is a storytelling show in Washington DC at six than I converted church. Fifteenth. Big Jay is doing it. Not sure who else. Also, if you come into the storytelling show, it'll be tonight where costume I'm gonna wear cost. It's scary stories so feel free to wear the costume. Don't be an asshole about it. But where cost them? All right. What else we got here? Just a few Sacramento. January third fourth fifth comedy works. Where record my first and only CD in Denver January twenty four twenty five twenty six the wise storytelling show every first second Cindy ago. Very fifteen sixteen seventeenth the congress or the Hoya. All right and Phoenix in March, seventh eighth ninth. None of these up yet. Back to the Simpsons. I'm a bark guy and a Homer guy. I actually never liked the Lisa episodes. I wonder now looking back if it was because it was woman stuff. I always thought it was just because they gave Lisa the fuck in the Downer. Roles. You know, she was an activist. So every time there's a lease episode like the fucking Kerr so much like. The blues musician whose name the blues guy who is the blue sky bleeding, gums Murphy. Oh my God. Okay. So I just look that up leading us Murphy. And when I found was the Simpsons sing the blues the full album. Wow. Guys. I had this album. I had a single blue. That's how much of a fan. I was. Oh gonna play three these songs. I'm gonna play three of these songs for the Dow show Thuc rock music. I'm gonna play three songs. I listen to this in my car all the time. I had Fleetwood MAC greatest hits remember that the Batman soundtrack the score. Maybe drastic park to score. But those are the only weirdo ones, and then I had normal shit owing go Boyne go the one with its dead man's party, which I'm knocking apply now. I should because I mentioned it. But no, I'm gonna play three songs off the Simpsons sing the blues. Wow. God I had my Datsun two forty S X two hundred six. It talked about it for seven hundred bucks. Or was it me paid seven hundred. My dad said he'd match me. I forget now. Low on fuel fuel is low. That's fueled is low. I know lady, I know I have no money. I gas was a dollar eleven after the war after the first Iraq war. Jeff Chessen gone. Like, you've found it for dollar Levin. I was like. Yeah. Randolph. 'cause it was hired that I guess, but before the war is like under a dollar, and man, you you fucking this is this dude on the best at making sauteed onions, I'm the best person. I know and I'm really good at it. And it's the best thing. I do. So I'll tell you onions even in a pinch. I'm bucking good at all. Here's A C. I'll just tell you. Here's a secret. I don't mind giving now I don't mind sharing. What just because I'm great doesn't mean. Other people can't be great. Do it low as low as you can you gotta have a lot of times dude as low as you can some oil chop the onions in half. And then put it where it's like a crescent and then chop that chop chop. You know, what's they'd understand? Look like, I don't know how to describe the topic. You put some olive oil over turn it on the lowest setting you have. I don't know how to do it on. Electric stove, but our gas. It's just like I have one with a big round big wide flame in with a real small doing the small flame on the lowest on that. Put a top on it. So it gets the fucking moisture in let that go for a long time. If you're in a rush. Yeah. Turn it up, but let the moisture reactivate onions they'll start to Brown after a while, you know, mix it every once in a while every few minutes. Otherwise, it will burn. After a while it gets real soft. Then you had salt pepper keep going little while longer. I mean, look at it. You know, let it bring on lit it Brown. And then when you ready turn up that heat way, high singe it. That's the secret. Okay. So back to the Simpsons. So at least an okay so lease. I saw loves Lisa leasing I discussed Simpson for a while. So she wanted me to tell you, and I will tell you as a caveat. We get into it a little bit. We will you'll see them. We do we will get back into the Simpsons talk. But there's gonna be a while on their good thirty five minutes where well. Lease. I don't see I everything I still love her. But we just don't see eye to eye and everything. How do I say this the best way? I mean, you'll say whether points, are you could agree with you could agree with it doesn't matter. But yeah, we argued it doesn't really matter. Who's right? Listen to an argument between France, but she gets annoyed by me a lot because I don't. I mean, I I don't know. I'm not trying to win any votes. Anyway. So. Warning. Is there you're gonna see some argument, but they will get back to the Simpsons. It's going to deviate argues deviate. I'll tell you where it's gonna deviate from the Apu situation into fuck and women's place in women minorities place in entertainment. We have since talked very clearly and with respect to each other and gone to like a little bit of understanding. I will say this by the way beforehand. So when I usually argue it's it's from a place of like a lot of times. Like, of course this. But also don't forget this and this and this, and so I ended up kind of forgoing the, of course, this part because it's of course, I I noticed Rogan Joe Rogan had this problem when they would ask him a who you like in this fight fight or air fighter and fighter a was the heavily fater favorite fighter. But Rogan would never mention that. He would just go. We'll find her be if you can get him down. He's got a real shot at here. His ground game is no joke, bro. Now. He didn't say the, bro. His name's no joke. He trains under dozen. Got damnit bath access all he would do. And I mentioned this on on. I remember this one of his behind the UFC's. Jeremiah would would be a chair chairman would be following Dana around with a camera, and it was that time where John Jones, by the way, I was on Rogan's podcast, and it was fun. I have a lot of memories of of UFC. So John Jones is one we did not talk about John Jones was in a park in Newark before he was fighting there. He saw Personalizing ran the guy down tackle them sat on I'm waiting for the cops to calm and Dana was like we were talking about Dana was like what the fuck have. You cut yourself is the day before the fight. Then you can't fuck and fight. John Jones a hero. Was anyway. So right, then there were talking about some fight. And they're like, Joe, what do you think he was saying fighter? B's got a good punch that I think if he gets in there, you could really do some damage, and then there's a first time I really recognized it because I'd heard it so many times, but then it became clear to me. And then I just said it on that on that behind the behind the Dana white. I don't know what the fuck and show that was it was web show. I go just so you guys know when Rogan talks highly about one fighter that means. He's pretty positive the other fighters gonna win. Right. You understand that because he doesn't feel the need to say, obviously, interesting Silva is the is the fuck in. He didn't have to say Anderson Silva's ground game. And and his and his standup is way better. But if the guy can punch him, he's gonna chant he's like, why even say that part, it's obvious. So my arguments sometimes suffer from that where it's like the other people don't quite they get frustrated because like don't you see how hard it is to be this and this. Oh, yeah, obviously. And then I don't bother mentioning it. I mean, you'll see we're talking about. But with that in mind, I will say very obviously women have a tough time in the world as the fucking physically weaker of the species. Black people have had it fucking difficult in America having overcome slavery, even generations later and fucking racism left, and right and easy. But the only so far I'm willing to go to correct it. You know? That's why when I see someone like, I I don't know, whomever. Where were you like, wait? I didn't do anything. He being run out of town. It makes it makes me I don't I don't like that. So we got into an argument we will get back into the Simpsons talk. So don't tune out here arguments. You can hear even if you know what you're saying, you can hear the fuck and anger and a voice that's real. Anyway, she frustrates me. I frustrate her plenty of times, she's still my friend. No matter what. So, ladies and gentlemen, shall we start? Did I say everything I have to say what about the Simpsons the Simpsons? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll say this too. So go twenty three minutes. Oh, so by the way, you guys I might be done with podcasts advertisers. They always seem to get angry at me when I when I go towards the offensive. So I think it's a question of like they have to be very clear that I might get offensive. I won't shit on the product. But I might get offensive or I just can't take them. So I might try to start. This patriot up might give that another go very lazy about starting it. Anyway, we got it might be members supported that might be the answer for me to fucking because you're doing this. Say. This. Oh, so at some point after season eight nine something like that it started to get worse. My friends when I was in California start dropping off one by one fewer and fewer people watch Simpsons pretty much only me and John Capela Rollo last ones to really really enjoy. It. Just got sad. And then one day I woke up, and I was like this is a kid show. And it's been a kid show for a while. I mean, even when every show over that nine out of ten or let's say twenty twenty one twenty two great and one was. You know, then we like eleven twenty two and then five hundred twenty. But even when it was the worst still three three episodes here there that were fucking really good. That eventually it was like man, I just not enjoying the show. Why am I still honoring that kid who did sim fast by watching the show that hasn't been good at a high level consistently for far too long? I mean, it was bad for longer than it was good at some point. And I was still watching it. So I stopped. It made me sad. But I stopped. I stopped watching I figured out with family got to by the way, they got so shitty. That here's a secret to watching family guy. Watch only the first two acts. If you watch third act that average I talked about drop so low that it's below and acceptable line that third act is terrible. That's when they have the lesson in the fuck it. But if you just watch the first and second act on worry about how it's gonna wrap up because it doesn't matter because it's fucking family guy. It ain't Luke cage he'd have to figure out how wraps up just enjoy it for the jokes. Watch for the first commercial to the second second third. So the wrong, you know, act one then act two and then skip the last third just don't even watch. It's just gonna make you mad and hate hate family guy. So, you know, same thing with the Simpsons, I stopped watching it. But I kinda wanted to go away. I mean, I guess I don't care anymore. It's just sad. You guys watch video that I'm going to put on the site. It really breaks it down. Really? Well, what happened to the show and why it got bad? And how exactly it got bad? Yeah. Go to the great dot com for that. And all my tickets. That's it you guys. Start the episode, shall we? Go watch degenerates right now. Big J's the first episode there. Six people on there. Like, I said every one of them does not happening. So, you know, they're all quality, fucking comics. Fucking YoM was to guide they have scared. How many Casado's too scared to come camping with me and Bobby Kelly and big j two years ago? Fuck you Yama nica HOA. Why people I can't go camping. Why people quipping fucking stereotype and go camp with your friends? My grandmother told me shut up. All right. Let's start the episode episode. Are you should hear scepter take episode three forty is that right or three thirty? I think it's three forty buying time. Buying time to load three forty the Simpsons. Oh, okay. Here's what I was going to say about sober October. The challenge. I put in a fuck at six hundred point effort, these guys don't even haven't even seen it yet Rogan saw. But he didn't tell them. They're going to be so mad in the morning. I'm gonna do another workout after this. It was fucking dead heat were all within one hundred points of each other to two days left, and they're gonna wake up in the morning and see their down a thousand fuck points. And if you wanna thousand points is it means this I have need to get over up over thousand points on fucking fat Burt gowdy still fucking fat. The both fat by the way, if I get three hundred sixty seven points three six to forty. Forty three sixty. Yes, I do an hour and forty minutes on the O and read. Yeah. I can do an hour forty. I did three plus hours today. I might not be able to. But if I do they'll wake up and suddenly I'm thousand points. If you don't know what that means. It means this. Tom has eighty two fifty nine Rogan has ten thousand seven hundred but Tom has eighty nine Birt has eighty to seventy seven and before they went to sleep I had eighty to ninety nine. So it was within forty points of each other in that fuck and eight thousands, and they're gonna wake up and suddenly my thousand points up back break her. That's right. Here's the deal, I'm smarter than them. No matter how you wanna put it. There's no question that I'm smarter than both of them. They're white trash idiots uneducated. And so I use skill. I use skill in order to win play this game. No, one thought I had a chance, and then here, I of course, Rogan's gonna win, of course, fucking Lance Armstrong of Sobhraj Tober is gonna win wink, wink, abo-. But of the people that are chance, by the way. No, more Rogin. No more. Hey for this challenge. Let's do exactly what I was doing. And then we'll just make that for everybody. Already doing hot yoga. Let's do hot yoga or Maury working out every night. Looks fucking do that. How about next year we do who can live in Joe Rogan house for the most days in October fucking dumb, take my God damn? No cell phone challenge. Take that. Better your lives. What what you see when you give out Kahal? And we'd and you say like, oh my God. It's actually good. I realized how much I was relying. I fucking take my month-long challenge of goddamn smartphone. And no social media. Just get off it dark. You can Email on a system to Poche it for you for a month. And and then see how much better your life is for a month. But they won't take it because he just want to do what they're already doing. Anyway, I'm almost done with the shit. I can't wait to drop some fucking, Molly. Mali's greet me at the gates of sober October bender. November's start strong is anyone here from Stanhope, by the way. None of us have heard from them. He could be dead. John Lewis start the episode are issue. I take episode three forty the Simpsons with LIZA traeger starts. Now. Joy, I can't smoke it. But I sit next to you like people to like cannot not drink around. Joan. I'm not getting my life together. Just doing it for thirty days. It's the month of Halloween like usually people do January. I don't get why. Or November one of the best drinking months of the of the year New York where it's like people are out and while you students have calmed down a little bit. So it's like chills it's beautiful where in our jackets are fog years out or ready. We've been waiting for our leathers. It is nice that posit and be like. Oh, yeah. This jacket. Yes. We nice again. Well, my I'm trying to joke about this. Anyone sees him not doing bits? But I hate when people talk about summer bodies. Because for me it's easy in the summer. He put on a flow. He drives you put on some bikini bottoms, you go get like, nothing matters. And then fall, I'm like, none of my pants and fall is when I'm so I like I have to get back into my fall clothes dresses. Naked. Right. I just feel in the summer. Like, I just were short overalls of the crop top almost all summer. It doesn't matter like people need to get fit for the summer. That's a self esteem thing, it doesn't matter. Just go naked in the pool. Like nothing has. Like, you don't have to wear any type fiber. You might be sweating more. But you can wear a loose tube. Dress and you'll are fine. But in the fall, it's like you have to fit in the sweaters, and the jeans and the buttons. And that's when I'm like fuck. Yeah. And I haven't again, she's right next to me. I'm not really doing much about it that you can. I don't know. But follows Taff a good fashion month, though, has I love that. I'm new to fall. I think it's an older thing. What's it called the Browns and stuff those kind of colors earth tones earth towns? Yeah. I have a red leather jacket for Br. With far tram, and it's good. I can't place. Yeah. It's really a dream. Come true. I still have a couple boxes to organize these boxes to be on topic are mostly filled a Simpson's toys, and she really. Yeah. And then I still have a bunch of my parents how Simpson's Soysa shows now shoes since Simpson's toys and clothes. Most. Look you got the fucking knock off Russian dolls. Yeah. They're actually from the eighties. They're made in Russia, their vintage I got him at like vintage shop, but this flowerpot this March Halloween flower pie just got in the mail. What's crazy coffee? I've been following that artist for a while. And she put four of those she paints everything. So there's not a lot. So she put four on sale like two weeks ago at noon, and I had a flight out of eleven fifty five and it took off and I was like waiting, and I ordered it right as the plane to off. So I got this shut your phone off. Yeah. I just knew I needed it. And I didn't wanna made it that like perfectly though, exactly from when she became a vampire. And so each there's a skeleton there's a witch. It's all Marge Halloween faces. So I had to have it. And if you touch it, it's like a pain. I mean, it's like you. There's a lot of stricter actions on how to watch and take care of it even with the plant like it's really blackout our Instagram gets like this. Simpson's cat lady. Crocheted Lou hoop thing. Instagram gets. On Instagram, explorer and Instagram knows what I'm into. By our I will buy Simpson stuff I'll buy buttons. And so like, the moon is nice. Well, our friends Sam say for me that for Christmas or something. Yeah. The only poster I have is like the every Simpsons character ever. But that's I'm sure that's outdated. Now that was like fuck it by season. Online takes them since clauses. And those are like think of all the characters very hard even to like, here's all about it. Can you name them? What what you could really want? You. See? Yeah. I remember having a member him, of course. But some of them were like not like auto. But even like smaller characters. Yeah. We're like, I don't know one episode. Endel which one do the sickly looking. The what sometimes you have trouble with is the he made three appearances whereas like homers nemesis. Well, there's Grimes. Yeah. So I have a Frank Grimes pencil. I have a pencil from the scene for Crohn's. So mad. Family. You've been space. Rub. It. Yeah. It is one of my because usually the fan favorites, I think are overrated radioactive man to me isn't over episode, but rhimes is like Homer's enemies of can good goes look everybody like. It was like look everybody isn't a kids contests and then Lenny's. Yeah. And he killed them. It's crushed everybody. Dominated. Okay. I love how the okay. So I'm looking at those Russian dolls. Yeah. That reminds me of early in the Simpsons run. Yeah, you're two maybe three held you. Do you mind? I I never watched the new ones on Sundays. I watched every day at five and five thirty. And then at ten o'clock, I would beg to stay up or it would be five and six and Seinfeld is at five thirty night. So I hated Seinfeld my whole childhood because out of the way they get the fuck out of here. But my parents are foreign, and I would sit and watch this in the basement, but they thought I was watching the Simpson though J Simpson trial. Russians watching the Simpsons and I'd run downstairs, and they were like why? Because I was also obsessed with a lot of murderers, and I would read a lot of like friends pathology bucks, and like I was into creepy staff. And so then they were just like, yeah. I guess she's watching the trial, and they called it yellow people my dad's shamed me for watching kids kids stuff in clouds now. No when I was a kid. I remember in second grade watching Barney and Sesame Street, my dad be our baby. And so the Simpsons pretty baby. I mean, I'm closer baby adult they were so Russia. Yeah. Like, my parents got mad at my sister for telling her kids that they they're like she's tells him I love you too much. What is this? But I was ready to head through jobs and killed two people. That's exactly there's just like. But now they're older they're trying to get emotional. And I'm so uncomfortable buy it, really my dad's eighty of you know. Three. So now in text, I love you like you've literally only said this to me in person four times in my whole life. Sell uncomfortable. And they're trying so hard to open up to me. But I'm not used to it time because you didn't raise me to accept those. Yeah. It's like the biggest issue is like I have a lot of issues with emotional intimacy because of them will try, but we don't communicate. We don't talk issues. It wasn't like how a school what like we didn't talk. And so, you know, I'm calm. I do talk a lot that people don't understand when you talk like you can open up front of people also random strangers all the time. Like, yeah. Because faceless audiences aren't sound like opening up to a real human. I'll cry of open up to a real one on one. But to a crowd, I can say my darker secrets yet. So is weird when they're like, oh, and you're like, no, I'm clearly, okay? With it. If I'm telling. But that is there's like a girl, and she would do eating disorder jokes. But we all tell she wasn't over it. And that's when it's not funny, you really have to over Eur issues chocolate on stage think try talking about Israel Palestine onstage like three years in a comedy. And it just came off. So hateful. Yeah. I mean, we all just not over and ready to do it. So here's say there was a period of time. I guess you don't remember it then. But I remember I mean, I've watched all the early episodes. But it wasn't like I never remember Tracy all men or like, okay. I guess I would have been like seventh grade or something like that. Perfect. Yeah. But here's what I remember. I'm saying the knockoff Simpson's memorabilia, follow bar on Instagram. It's my favorite. I love the black bars. I think Jack Lockhart is black. Bart. Oh, maybe like he is Bart Simpson. To me like Jack Knight and bodies BART's them said like, I think that's why I love him so much. He's just bar. He's Liz, goofy smart troublemaker. Fun. He's so fine. No, there's so much bootleg gear had a trip to New York class trip. And I remember getting like don't have a cow man shirt. That was like it's hard to because I had forgot what episode this is. But Lisa has a line or she's like, I wouldn't want the Simpson. Name to be used on. Bunch of products. We don't lie. It's I think it might have been the behind the music episode. But she made like I love when they break the fourth wall behind music. So it was weird. It was a clip show, but it had originally material. And it was Troy McClure. Yes. I wish we start with Simpsons. It's just so many. But I love all the bootleg here. I just I'm the phenomenon. I missed. I was too young to realize like, I don't think I saw everything around me. We're also poor like I didn't. I just watched. I loved it. When I was in seventh grade. How will we eighty-seven when did it start? I think eighty nine okay? Yeah. I'm not sure. Yeah. So I I didn't nine wow. All that sense. Because it's the thirtieth year this upcoming year. Yeah. Wow. But that emissions different. It's like, I think Smithers is black and has purple hair and the first year like Bill, I think Smith is changes voice. They view voice of the year. One and two I believe that they just stuck with them. After that for over the thing is I really love some of the storylines from one in three so much. And I wish they did them later when they became like. So so good. What do you want him three seasons? One through three. I love some of the episode themes, and constant storylines. But the the quick jokes just aren't there yet? And I wish we could see the early episodes with like season five writing, right? Yeah. Yeah. They were finding their own characters. Just like introducing characters. Like, why don't if this is because one of my favorite episodes when the babysitter comes in. Lucille Taus scared of her. Oh, yeah. I like love that. And I know it would be so much more later on. But I usually don't watch those my time when I do they're just not as joke. Heavy I love when they. That come home and tied up watching the Teletubbies pretty much turn up. Please turn off the TV on time. We like turn this off place. That is I also love when line I'll hats babies sets as he's Miguel Sanchez smoke coming out. And he was he wanted to keep the birdcage from the garbage. I mean, his death is really sad holiday his fucking wife killed him. And then killed herself way. Was that Phil Hartmann was the I don't remember. But they don't they never brought those characters back over again. Is that after Phil Hartmann died. Never brought the the. Yeah. Troy McClure, and oh, I the character now real harmony village. I was like, wow. What a Mirroring of exactly they'll. Crazy kids show. Yeah. I liked how they continue on with them. Yeah. Rogan knew him really because it didn't NewsRadio together for like years. Wow. I didn't know rugged had such a long career. I just remember I know him from fear factor. You know? Oh, yeah. I know from NewsRadio. 'cause I remember that show. Sometimes it's one of the shows it was like thirty, you know. So it's like it was on. But like, no girl, she had like thick eyebrows. I remember I was like about that relationship with her fully. But here's what you don't member. Fucking. Ronald Reagan was shitting on the Simpsons. I remember Barbara blush. Been Reagan that was earlier. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's why I love this. This is kind of fucking family that we want as you know. Example of family life is there was shitting on this cartoon. Yeah. And then you you obviously love that episode where the bushes move across the street just Dennis the menace. It's good though down. Yeah. They hate it. I mean, Republicans suck but like censorship's annoying. And it's I mean, we see this today. And we saw like people just blaming things that are aunt video games for violence. Let the Simpsons I actually wrote one of my senior paper. I mean, I didn't go to like a real college. But one of my socio legiti papers on the Simpsons. And I think what's good, and what other shows have taken from as there's har-, and there are a loving family and at the end of the day dysfunctional family, you know, like when lease embar the ice cream cone falls down. They hug on the ice rink on it like super young or when he buys her the jazz album, the sax on the beach or whatever like, you know, they do love each other. And they are a great family and the whole community. It's like it's such a satire and everything if you're offended by it. You're truly a fool. Well, it was a lot. Like, you wouldn't remember this either? But when Mary the children came out, the five member, I've watched all this. I don't remember. I never was like it's very Thursday. I gotta watch Friday. But to me it was like I was raised on TV. You have me to network TV. Yes. Sabrina the teenage which fresh prince of Bel-Air, I recieve which player. What do you mean? We had I I'm just joking. When they came out. It was a. It was also you again tomorrow they didn't have groundhog day. Makes sense. Let's just see again tomorrow. So funny, I think like the Simpsons too. It's like, it's Michael Jordan. It's universal to the point. Where like, oh, you probably top five most famous thing. But here's what I'm saying. With with children came out people were protesting. It was like what the fuck is this because it was it was all pretty much Brady bunch. Tha that you got me started on Collins, really all you sending me all that show. All that stuff. You gave it to me. I don't know how to roll joy it changed my life. I buy cones. Now. That's the way smoke weed. Have I ever given you one of those airtight cases. Ex-? I don't think I'm giving you a type of plea is and you can carry two joints with you. They don't bend and their and their smell amazing. Yeah. Because that's the bad thing. I usually I'm smoking other people's we'd outside the house. They usually leave the weed at home everyone could come over. But it would be nice to bring joint going to know stroll three hits and put it back away close. It goes out and you smoke more. Yeah. I remember. Remember, put out a joint ones, and you shamed. Me so bad. You were like have some respect for the joint. Let it live or something like that. Putting it out. And I was like oh my God. I guess I'm piece of trash. I've put joints out after that. You probably don't even remember that Philly. Don't put joints out anymore 'cause I stamp them out. Just like I'm always scared of seeming cheaper to in the money. So I like judo the other extreme too. Oh, I'll pay the tip all do this. And it's like I had to stop doing that. I am too. We're all don't all pale here. People like I don't. I don't want cheap. Yeah. Really bad. I'm my friend shock see he's Indian. So he has pulled Marsha she things we were in a hotel together. And we found a cockroach body, and we're like do we call the hotel? I dunno. So we called. The hotel. And then then we we couldn't find the dead body agains like we're gonna they're gonna think were like trying to get something say brought bedbug people. They're like, so there's no actual bugs. What are you guys doing? Well, we'll offer you free whatever we actually have plans. Do you wanna lunch, and we're like, we don't need anything. And because we both have like these stigmas from our parents counteract. There was a cockroach in our room. We should've been like gimme my fucking breakfast body could dad cocker, but then we couldn't find it. And then so both of us are like ravaging this room trying to find the girl. Idea. It wasn't. It was really know what it was in our bad. And then we couldn't find it. And so then we, and then we've really crazy that we couldn't find it. But we both felt too like I'm really jealous can complain and get stuff in like those because. Mistake. I didn't get that code. It seems jewelry. And we know it seems Julie not gonna be like. You're not gonna be like, look we look at this fucking Jew. And people think I'm making a lot of money now. And I am I'm not doing bad. But they will just they'll just never van mommy, and I think I'm fine. I also spend frivolously so they're like, oh, she's good. And then I feel too ashamed to ask for money. Hey, where's the twenty dollars? Yeah. I just went out to eat with three other people. I put it on my card everyone van mode me. And then later, I counted on my calculator I paid over twenty dollars more than everybody. How do they get the wrong number? I have no idea. Bitches? I know, and then I don't wanna say anything, then that's it. What about a way to deal with it sit on? Let's make you see years. But I'm happy to have, you know, I'm happy to have also feels good to be better than people know your money. Yeah. I I I'm gonna eventually become more stricter like split it or do stuff because that's not how you stay rich. I don't know. But when you grow poor, you're more, generous than other people like you ever, see Titanic Yaojie seem to but the bottom of the ship all fucking going nuts and drinking booze ended. Oh, yeah. That's like who cares. Yeah. I was that was the big thing when we moved from like, my parents like eat, do what are you looking at the Dennis Rodman doll. That's I have a toy guys. So in Chicago at quake, what's that Lincoln squares? Yes. He has all the good stuff for me. I actually have it's in the shelf right now 'cause I'm still like putting stuff away. But I have a Brittany spears sense doll from the twenty fifth anniversary. So that was like an exciting. Get for me. But those Rodman dolls are such a fucking get. Did you see? Okay. Well, did you see any drop since you came to sort of later drop off on the Simpsons? Like were you seeing a like, you know, have what you say that video is on you. Now, your video about like what happened Email maybe overwhelming to me so much all the time. I need a separate. I get a new account put into folder something. So wires wife to help me organize everything. And she's like, I'm. Going to delete a bunch of old shadow, Mike. You do what you need to. Gee, Melby like this came five days ago. Do you want to reply and so that's been like ooh, fuck five ready help? Helpful. It is to keep track. I mean, I'm addicted to my phone. You're very good about plugging. I'm fully addicted. And so I have to like turn it off put it in a different. I have to focus on it. So I can't really be concerned about responding 'cause I have an addiction. I'm on it like ten hours a day to get to tell yourself. Look, I know this person wants me respond, but I need to have fun of my life. So I'm sorry person. I'm going to put you on the back burner because your problem is not. It's not like, hey, my mom died. Can you come help me with like? Okay. No. That you need my help. But if it's like, can you do the show? I can't I'm sorry. I'm out a mock responding right now. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. One hundred percent. Yeah. It's getting overwhelming. And I just got locked out of Facebook. Which is nothing. I think part of the hack is a Facebook hacker. There was a fifty million user hack and all this information was stolen. I think that's what it was. But none of my passwords are working. And then when I keep requesting an Email to set up the Pat, I'm not getting. Any of the emails. Fuck facebook. Ju I don't want it. I would be happy to shut it down. But I do feel weird that people can send me messages still remember deleting my space because I went back in there. I like having their, you know, and I went in like a year later, and I'm like there was all these messages, and I'm like, oh, these people thought they sent me something, and I never got it. So that you got outright to lead the Facebook. Yeah. Take it down to like your core group of ten fifteen friends from high school or something. I don't have friends. I just just my mother, but I'm going to let her get uninsured. I like was upset made her get off of Instagram, but I'll let her back on. And I'll just hide my stories from her. Can you do that? Yeah. I had my stories from my niece and nephew the moment was I was in at Menton and hasn't the hotel room where there's a jacuzzi tub in the room. So I was watching porn, and there's MIR's everywhere. I ordered room service is just like naked in the hot tub, and storing, and I was like, oh, I have to hide this the children sister Espy like Kim. I can my kids watch your stuff. And I'm like, no, I'm scared about this. Netflix thing because they can't it's not like, my they no one can stop them. No, one can stop them from watching it. Now, it's kids habit. It's fake Instagram. So the parents can't they can see real Instagram and this fake won't friends. Wow. And so then it's like or they have a fake one for their parents and stuff. And so it's like, you know, and then they have this legit one where they sound like are still liking the fake ones too. Trade. Yeah. That's amazing. Just scared with kids having fake ones because there's pedophile everywhere. And it's scary. That's the one thing. Like, I think kids should have private and controlled. And all of that. Like, it's it's fucked twelve year olds all have content picks on their phones. It's scary. I don't wanna get it's like normalized where it's you have to. It's fucked because all the boys are showing everyone. I'm sure are the girls are two for sure everyone's just showing agents. They don't have couth. They don't go. No come on. That's gross. Should not for you. At this age will have it. I know, you know, I wouldn't show it if somebody in the scene like that, you know, you know, but if it was somebody that you don't know, hey, somebody picture that chicken. You know, whatever Dallas here, if you're sending other comics that you're not neces- serious relationship with anything that you want private, you're truthful. What's I'm talking hooked up the same truck? We're like we're like, wait. I know chick name. I forget her name. And then we like look at this picture. Do I have the exact same picture on my phone? That's her stock phone. Yeah. You definitely have to like picks hits that you just have. Yeah. For share? Let's talk about. Okay. Also, first of all top that we're gonna say the introduction. I'm. Sure. But your Netflix half hour special is out right now October third. I'm not sure I know what it's coming out. I do have to say more people come to my shows on the road from this podcast, and crab fees and all the podcasts than anything I've ever done anywhere onto crazy podcasts are bigger like radio or TV or anything. It's it's the top thing whenever or I see legion of gang t shirts. Always in the crowd. It is really I don't have. But most people come from these podcasts. It's really amazing. Yeah. We'll get to know you. Now have you say like, all right. What's Boko fry? And I'm like, I don't know. A lot of comments about vocal fans are definitely read. I heard this is not happening comments are mean, and I liked my fucking story. You leaders. Yeah. I do have vocal fry. But also if I understand what Boca fries, I get that in the morning. It's like a valley girl thing. It's just like. Yeah. It's just a trend in like speaking. But usually like it's just it is what it is. But like when anything female or feminine is like your fuck you. So a lot of it had a surfer bro on here less. People would be like this bitch. Shut him up a lot of it really is. There's just not some people like like don't like what they like. And I wanna get everyone's opinion. But some of it is like, I'm not used to a female voice for black voice or whatever. It's not what I'm used to. Yeah. Get a lot of here. Yeah. Yeah. But whatever who cares. Started a podcast not a comedy one. It's about like motherhood is choice. And don't have don't be about her because she she's saying that the childless and then we'll get back with Simpson's. The childless community are bunch of freaks till they call like people have kids breeders and. Droppings or like atheists like Luda took eighth the grown sperm like they're just that. I'm in hate kids. But me, and my friend like we like children we like our friends kids. I like buying kids presents hanging out. I just don't want to have children. But it's like as a choice verse. Like, you shouldn't have kids remember Christine ochre made clear to me like somebody. I think be was holding Jay Lewis kid, and I was like away from she was all right? You don't have to have one. You can still say, he's cute. It's a fucking three year old put up on your lap. Calm down. Yeah, you're right. It's like, it's just not as dramatic. But she has a really loud laugh people won't let her into. So she gets all these things we love your podcast, but you blew out my ear buds, or your friend knocker stand. Now. My grand. Right. And so she's blowing out people's ear buds. She's getting like, you know, the sound quality is terrible your voices ruining my life. But we like what you're saying. Well, she's like DIY. So she finally got a producer. She's like doing it all on her own. So now, the sound quality will get better. But it is. Yeah. She's ruining people's lives on camera, whatever this is Mike sometimes people caught eight I hate it on the war some fucking rely. Why have you not eating? Chips. But I'm like no one's gonna eat crunch on the Cam on. You know, you're talking to the wrong guy. Shit about your ears listeners. Anyway, so it's on Netflix right now, the degenerates leases on there. So. Tom. Big J D as present skate. Oh, Kristina Hamm Brad Williams Little Brown. We all have weird body is and us in our end for a walking out of what we. We ought he's we all wear bodies and the intro Tomsk directed. It's like we filmed in Vegas, the intros. That's like. Look, I haven't even seen it yet. But it's walking out of the casino. And you're just and Christina is eight and a half months pregnant, her Dula was onset. And Joe is like Brad's edge. It's just like a little said that. But yeah. But us walking out of the casino together. It was just the goofiest thing. And I wonder what everyone because everyone watching film or. No, it didn't look it. Look bad. Oh, I'm not joking. It looked like a fucking gangster film. Oh, Jeff Tomsic is such. I want all your interests. Yeah. He's so fun to work with I like him so much just down for like, let's make something look cool. And you're like, okay what I love, and I felt really cool about this. And it's rare that a lot of people are good at like there was something something going to switch at the end. And I felt comfortable enough to be like absolutely not we have to do this. We could do this this. There was a time issue, and they were going to cut something out. And I was like absolutely not we have to do this. If we need this and that and that I try to solve it. And I was just like they listened, and we did it, and I felt so cool about it. And then I felt so lucky 'cause usually can't really speak to directors show. You can't be that open wrong. Jeff may be on standards. So cool the way we did not happening trousers like a bunch of high level people like DP's and camera guys all all saying like all take far less money to come to this thing in the desert for three days. And so then it really was like kinda DIY were everybody joined in. So like all have to grab equipment. Sometimes it helps them with like. And so then your opinion does matter got any ideas. Like because before that, I was always like, whatever, you guys think I don't wanna step on toes. And then if you realize like, dude everyone's opinion is about you don't like force them. But like you said like how about you this idea? Good idea. Yeah, we can't do that. But that's the sign of a talented amazing person where you're not a dictator you're open. So what's happening creativity? Could say no like he has a special skill. It's good special means sorted. Now. Not always I'm just thinking. I'm so into the future and being nice, but truly I love saying retarded, and it is his heart. I hate not being able to save on stage. I really lately on stage, but I'm talking about hearted people. And but that's even that's actually worse. I thought that's better. Because Sam j who I like a lot. She had a great theory. And she also wants to do it with, you know, the F bad gay word that I don't like saying. So I disagree with her there. But she goes we could just decide those things don't mean gay in special like, they mean different things than our south park means something different book faggot. I didn't. Oh, I wouldn't say that. That's the thing. Like that. Like, they're the same. But I don't love saying that. But I want to say retarded, and it's like I would never say that about a mentally challenged person. That does not mean retarded to me. I'll just tell you. What I grew up though. That was the word you were supposed. Yeah. No. I know what from like come on be respectful, say retarded. To like out there you like wait what change it behind my back? We talk about Ralph. He's pretty retarded retarded. Yeah. Let's go into that. 'cause I'm a pretty big fan. And when you meet people and Ralph is our favorite character. You know, they're not really a Simpsons fan. I just feel like Ralph is cool. But it's like the the like the regular man's favorite character like Ralph Wiggham. Yeah. To me. It's like sure my niece loves Ralph's. I feel bad. But to me Ralph is like anybody's favourite will be Ralph. I wouldn't think it would be anybody's favor. Now. It's like a sign where you're like, you're not really actually if aunt another sign where you know, people aren't real fans, and they're just trying to sound cool is when they go. I mean, I only like when cone was there and once he laughed. It wasn't good. It's like he left after season for your telling me five through eight aren't four. Oh, yeah. People stuff, and they just regurgitate like when I tell them. I like the fountainhead and they're like, oh, yeah. She's a socialist, Mike. You didn't read the fountainhead? Did you for sure didn't take that Friday, the fountainhead, and I cut it? Bought it. And I was like oh. It's real heavy because I'm ready not really a reader, and that I was just like can't just you know, it took me probably nineteen months to read how my God steady reading. I can't do I read that. I put it down to think about the theories for like like three or four weeks, then every other chapter like, whoa. I mean, that's cool. But but yeah. So those are the two comments where I know you're not I never heard that second one. But that's interesting because you're right because I did some people just regurgitate where like seasons five six seven great now I will say favorites episodes ever comes from season. Ten I'm not this like psycho pure s at all. And I like some up from twelve I think there's some like. Gulls ghetto scar. Galactica I'm saying it wrong. But the where Bart becomes a horse rider is amazing and Skinner's sense of snow. I love like, I don't hate all in it. I mean, I'm not I will say when they talk about these tooth, and they say the writers left wasn't like an an mass all the writers left. It was one by one. They started leaving, you know, they would continue to do that. So me and cap Rouleau where like the last two guys in LA that were like, no, we're still watching the Simpsons people. Like, no, dude. It's awful. No. There's still some good episodes to me the percentages went down. We'd still have really good episodes. It might not have been ninety five percent. And might be seventy might be sixty might be forty even. It was like where it is. Now. Who knows it's still like there's a couple of good ones. Our Homer, the inventor like that. Well, even. So it's still it's all your suddenly awful now. But what is off? And that's the thing. You know, obviously, I've una pood-. All right there. My favorite non family. I hated the way they handled it even give into because they're fucking old white men, and they're worried about the response. But my thing is no because they're pieces of shit. They're like little like their egos are so sensitive that they can't see outside of themselves to me. It's like we can what I wish was said. Well, hopefully, first of all how dare you disrespect Lisa and her character and integrity and have her say that fuck her do that. And by the way, you're speaking directly to the audience you not speak. You're not tongue in cheek it. You just pretty much giving it out it may as well be credit, eight months later too. What they had to say was we create an amazing show up some of our character. We gave her in three dimensional whatever she's not just we understand. Our whole writer's room is white men. That's an issue to have what only white dude's writing for all ethnic, cities and genders. So and now it's still old white men in the whole thing of the Simpsons. It's like it's young. It's satire. I know someone. That's a writer's assistant there, and he was saying that no one in the room knew Cardi B was you should not be writing on the Simpsons. If you do not know pop culture, and what is happening in the world. You should know. Cardi fucking be is. Well, the old y dudes being like fuck. Yeah. Worse mind. It's like, you don't even have a woman in there. You're legit. Don't even have an Indian. It's like admit that we love the show. Now, we have to change we're going to make our room more diverse, and we're going to have like Indian people do the voices. They're not have women back. Then. No, he Samsa one of them hated women and didn't allow it. One of the women wrote the first episode Santa's little helper. Oh, and they didn't let her in the room because they didn't like. Working with women. Yeah. I mean, it's an it was the first one. I mean, it's also rich. It's like you fucking shit Harvard's better than everybody. Amraam? I heard was in the room in the past decade once but that's it. So it's like you have an interesting career fifty sixty year old men being like, foggy aero guys. It's like, I don't know. I didn't watch Haris thing. I don't care. I get like. But to not just to not understand. Why people are annoyed as like a Brown person being like, yeah, you're all bunch of rich white old people writing and saying it's not racist. But like, you don't even you don't even have. Though, what why are they? Well, it was the only representation of someone. It's so stereotype, so like I lived with an Indian person old place, and I have a few poodles, and he was like us. And so he was like, yeah. As a kid at suck does the only Indian on TV. Okay. So that so that he was getting represented. The problem is. Let me of course, the only Representative on representation on TV is that means it's only not the Simpsons fault. Correct. No. That's what I'm saying. It's like it was a different grow. What we have to do is like. Is grow as human beings. And so right now with the Simpsons could have done is go we stand by the show on our characters. We love we love everyone. We treat it like as his he's like, the deepest. I fucking love him. He's actually he's got a deeper life than the one black character Carl. Yeah. Who's well? There's the there's also I forgot the cops. Look what it's black. Yeah. Dr Nick isn't black with Dr Hibbert is with the psychologists. No, that's Dr Monro glasses after the Bill. Cosby like, he laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. So. I like not gonna have always like. I watch the game on TV stuck in traffic. It's like no dream to the gym tonight. Remember that one king? I'm just saying, but acknowledged that it's weird that it's a room full of white people. And now we've grown as a society where it's important to have a room with voices of all different types. So you don't fall prey to being ignorant or bullshit or like doing weird things. But I don't understand why a Poon necessarily as Indian dude voice him. I think that's the thing where it's like if you're gonna have Indian and Asian and all these characters give those people jobs if you're ninety nine point nine percent white. Except except. His bar is voiced by a woman like it's just like we have five people doing all the voices. Yes. That's what I mean. We were back in the age. No one is telling you to go back in time and kill all the Simpsons writers. But we're thirty years later. So it would be great. If the writer's room kind of acknowledging and we're like. Boys. I mean hang doesn't do it anymore, and he's really upset about it. And I understand it. I understand all sides to this. But you cannot be ignorant to the fact that it is not cool to have an all white male writers room to comment on society as a whole and have characters of different ethnicities. And I think the voice thing with Bart being a woman is kind of different. I don't know that five guys playing all the voices. Oh, it's like, yes. Because it's that's been saying we're not talking about back in the day to change everything. And it was evil. That's the way things were we were an ignorant bad society. And we still are. But it's like it is our job to knowledge like fuck. We should have some women here. We should have young people. We indian. Indian did let's have some black people in the room to have peop-. Yes. In the writer's room. White people make all these jokes about all these ethnic city is and then be like, it's not racist. It's like, but you don't even have a black person in the room to tell you if it's cool or not. So I understand things were different. No one saying burn it all down, but you're all multi multimillionaires open the room up higher new voices and start like, no, it's the same voices for thirty years voices in the room and the writer's room. Okay. But like in terms of like, the voice of Apu, the actual voice about they have every new character is like one of those people that already who wants this one. I know there's a lot of so now I get that might be more tricky. I'm just saying put in an effort and see where these people are coming from. No one is saying Simpson's are the most evil thing. They didn't do anything. I aside. I mean like so much about it. And he's like a vegan. He's friends with Paul McCartney. He was rich character. He was amazing. And that's why it's upsetting when people. Capable. But we're also it's like, I don't see the Jaanus, you know, Janas character Greek heritary does Mr. toppling that check he does. But he does wanting to go. I don't understand. The problem is is a business on our no zone business. It goes is a bad father. He's actually the best father in the show. Yeah. Fathers really how the White Fathers really awful one beats on the other like broke up this wife. No, he's a great father at a business owner. What's what's the issue? Then now one hundred percent, I think that's that's all that are saying now where it's like, you can't have rooms of all white dude's, creating all these ethnic. It's just weird where did a new time now, and you can't have an all white male writers around. It's weird. Well, that's on situation though, an Indian person in there. Why not I mean as when I talked to my old roommate he's a comic he's a children's. It's not like he's that's other thing where it's like the other side. That's complaining upset about this. They're not just like completely like these sensitive lunatics to chocks are just saying as a kid. It is weird when that's all that people know, and that's all that people put on you your whole childhood. It's annoying. Remember know doesn't mean it's evil and he's not good. But as a kid when everyone's like saying lines in the Indian accent about seven eleven to you. I'm sure as a kid after fifteen years, you get annoyed as all different types of bullying, or whatever. What do you think of when I say the word quirky quirky or Corky? Worke I wanna think of like Porky the pig. But I don't know Corky was like the retarded character for the longest time on TV. And he became the stereotype people push your down shut up Corky. It was just family show, and they had over target son who's played by a mentally challenged. And so he's got the president and everything. But like he was the only version ever and even a decade and a half after the show is over people still use Corky as the example because like there was an Indian guy in sports night. But like he wasn't stereotypical seven. Forgot about him. It's it's just it is weird. It's like, yeah. Sean, can you just hire someone with special needs? Why Sean it's we I understand being it's harder to do. With beau. Jack, like PO jocks the most I think Bo Jack is the new Simpson's in a way. Like, Bo Jack big mouth are so smart, multi. They're just like incredible. And even Rafael, Bob, I don't know Axberg. That's that's how you say his name. He's like, yeah. Maybe Diane shouldn't have been should have been a Vietnamese girl doing the voice a white check. That makes sense. Like if you're gonna have a Vietnamese character. Why not try to find Diane in the Simpsons now bow Jack as a creator? He's just able to be like, yeah, we really fucked up there, and we will not do that in the future. So what do you think about people going like only transports compla- trans role? I think why not give it to transfer. But I don't I don't know. I don't have. I don't think it's a black and white. I think so even only homosexuals complain homosexual roles and it's one hundred percent, sure. But like why not do it because it's been one way forever? Why not hire a gay person? Like, I don't get it. I think the reason I would say is because like starters can't even. Out like now, there's so many gay stars that can't come out because their careers will be fucked. That's a long time ago. It is a one hundred percent. Sure. Car Adele, Evine, supermodel extraordinaire, so gay right now. She lost endorsement like it's still a thing. Like, we're all. But like being gay fucks you point where it's like. Yeah. Why not just hire a gay person? Here's role. Here's why. Because acting means you're playing a role. That's not you. You can have somebody's not a hunter applying hunter. Sure. But it's like, I'm a man I can play whatever sexuality I can play someone who's into Blackjacks. Even if I might not be in real life have been and it has been, but it's like why not hire transfers. I just doesn't make these people. Don't get. It's like they there's only like you can only name a fee like why not be giving these people jobs. Why not have ended? If you don't find someone find one good trans actor. Yeah. Bring in some not transpeople. But it's like why not I think the problem with outrageous. They never understand. The hiring process. Like, how do I can tell you? Timber is an amazing actor the pilot. No, not everyone's perfect, Jill solid. Like not. Everyone is perfect. I feel in my comedy. I'm like very progress. At like, I'm saying whatever I want to say, but I still had someone this week. That was like, I think transfer and I was like all right. I don't know. I don't. It's like, I just don't think it's that harmful to listen. But what what did you just say? I was going to Jefferson was an amazing actor, oh with I'm this the the pilots dad, but when I was doing casting for my pilot. We thought one of the characters for sure going to be a black kid. And then there is a guy who's like perfect. And he was Spanish it's like, I'll take like that. Will let's rework the thing. So yeah, I understand got massing Marcos because. A Colombian was played by a Mexican. And it's like guys, listen, it's acting you guys we'd into much into maybe they are. But it's also the effort is not being made. So it's like can't be mad at the seal. Be like are you even trying to to the writer's room? You didn't even fry to understand and see the issue. And then you use Lisa the fucking hero. It's almost like you're saying like, she's socially conscious will use her to say, she's saying it saying, we're okay. It's just like being like, you guys are too sensitive. But no one has actually been trying trying. What like no one's doing the work. I don't think I trust that people are doing the work to fill their rooms and make the Smart Choice says I have a friend a black show where the lead characters black. It's a black cats, and they had white show runners, and it's like, no there should not be white show runners on a fucking black show there shouldn't. Point porce when San Fran was on the head all these Harvard Jews, you know. And then they're like, no, no, you gotta have black people writing. They black people writing red FOX thought the scripts role. Terrible. He goes, go get my Jews back, and that's fine. He's in charge. So here's suffering of the business world. And she said is whether doing in terms of how women writers do not writer. Sorry, women business people. You can't just say you need to hire them. Because then you're like, you're gonna have a worse. Employees stop. It's we have to have this without even people with mustaches. Whatever you're going to lower your quality. What they're doing is. They're hiring. I'm sorry. Third. Taking interviews at a ten percent higher than industry standard. So if it's ten percent of this in the industry, they will do interviews at ten percent higher rate of that. So like, we'll so let's say it's fifty fifty. They'll interview sixty percent women that way, they'll slowly push towards that way. But you can't say you must hire woman. Because then it's like when it's not where it's just like, it's this idea. It's just not true. What's not true that there is not skilled amazing people? That are women are black or whatever. Right. So you just have to like. For what happens is you wanna hire your friends, and then you hire all these white dudes? And then last minute FOX, we need a woman, and then you hire one woman to be in the room. So you don't feel bad. It's not an active thing, I'm going to read all these blind. And if you read everyone submissions blind, and it's all dudes, then fuck, I guess we're on, but we'll okay sensibility. Thank you did on the daily show and they hired all white dude's off blind missions. And then they were like, Nope. Still not good. Because it's well, I mean, honestly to go deeper to it. It's like you have a white, dude. Hosts you're obviously, the sensibility is going to be. You're gonna laugh more. It's like the people in charge like the late night hosts there shouldn't be five or six white dudes. Because of course, they're gonna relate more to what white dudes are writing. It's it starts from the top like the people in. I don't know. If you read all the less moon vez stuff with designing women in the nineties. But it's like, yeah. If you have some Sajjan perk up top who doesn't think women are funny or have anything important to say. And then he kills all women's projects. And then you have what CBS became and it's just like sue broke man, or I don't know what it is. The number one network. Because our country sucks. Yeah. I mean to to two to two and a half men and they're saying, and then you're like, well, women aren't funny. It's but you have someone that hates women in charge. That's like assaulting women in charge of all the programming designed huge show, you have to read this woman's I count like she had a huge deal. Everything was great the moment. He got hired. He would say and the like, yeah, he he wouldn't let that woman make anything else ever again. I'm just saying it's like all it's just goof you needed just give black people women. And everyone's shows listen to what I said. Interviewing people at a ten percent higher rate. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. Great saying you must hire this race this gender. You're saying like got to bring them into the room here. Their ideas. I just went to I wasn't even into this. Whatever I went to a paley center talk. And there was I had writer. She's so cool. And she was black. And she was saying something so amazing where she was a black shows writing on. And she's like, I'm BT's. She was like this is the first time where in the room. I don't have to like explain myself to the audience. I don't have to explain myself for whiteness, or like like do anything I could be black and right being like, right? As myself. I think we forget that like a lot of they can't do that on shows. It's like you're constantly in the room of people that don't know your references. That don't know if you're the only black person, it's like, oh, you don't know this. Okay. Well, this is what I mean are like, oh, you don't really understand this and the audience is mostly white. So you're changing everything for this audience, and it sucks, and she was like working for b it's like, I could just be black. And it's like, you know. So you not wanna right guy making Tori, Amos references. It was just like a kind of blew my mind where it's like fucking sucks to constantly have to be explaining yourself all the time. So it's like, it sucks. So you're also in a room, and you're working for a person who doesn't understand anything you're saying where you've come from or anything. It's like. Yeah. Yeah. But if it's a wild problem, it's not like an easy fix. I don't have all the that's what was upsetting the Simpsons the complete backlash like where are we made? Like, it's just like, no. There is an issue. And we there needs to be more discussion. Stop getting defensive about it. Oh, yeah. Like stop acting like this PC's sensitive bullshit. It's like, no. There's an issue. It's a fucking issue. And people are sick of watching shows written by twelve white dudes all the time. True. Those shows are still the the highest rate of chose on television to say people are sick of it does not represent the actual writer. Yeah. That's true. Trans transparent is not a very highly rated insecure as one of the best shows ever made like I walk for me. I've never heard of that. Yeah. And that. Yeah. It's it's H B O three seasons girls on a highly rated show, girls and insecure. I didn't say girls I'm saying like these aren't highly rated you're saying like people are sick of it. But they're not sick of it. You might say you don't have you're not represented, but like it's gets views here. So like you can't ask someone to like make less. Make less money kind of the thing. When Lewis coming back and performing everyone's like, well, the audience, it's the democracy of audience, and I'm like, no, that's the problem. Nobody cares. And so I guess you're right. Where it's like. Yeah. I guess everyone's pretty happy with six white, dude. Middle-aged host on network TV. Cool. Well, it's like how far down do you go like so like we need more men late night said James corden has a show, and they did not hire is insane. Well, so here's my question before they hired him a long time ago right around. Samantha b like they went to I have responded. Overman? They went to like all these women. They said, no, no, no, no. How far down the line? Do you go before you're like, hey Shijo? Bayer is a good guy. We should hire outside and not say Kobe said James corden way before the okay, but my thing, and Gordon, but you know, what's crazy? What happens is with women. This happened where the daily show and you're right for late. And I think it was Craig Ferguson spot that I really don't know about the bare spots, I can't speak on that. But when they were looking for that corden spot and the daily show, it was like we asked polar we Schumer Wanda Sykes. And it's like women in the industry that are like making millions kind of superstar. I mean, Amy train wreck didn't come out. But like these women that have been in the industry twenty years. I didn't they take a flyer on some unknown. Dude. It's no James corden, he was a man's of England that that showed us air. But like I'm just saying they would say Conan was when Conan got his job and was great again. That's fine. Again, they ever. Is willing to take risks on dude? But all the women they ask are like veterans of the industry, and it's weird. Like, of course, Amy Poehler and Amy Schumer gonna turn down the daily show. Why don't you ask a young new woman like they're always taking chances on dudes? I don't really take chances. I mean. Yeah. Who's hartman? Again. It's like like James corden just pisses me off like this. Unknowns England guy like why but not in this country. Ferguson was like Ferguson was good. I'm sorry. He was a great interview. I loved watching his interviews. I loved his repeat gas. I love his nonchalant attitude. I love that. He swore. I love the like low budget rent of it. I love the voice of the after the show is on. I love the point of view. Okay. So what I heard when coordin- was hired before he was hired. Oh that guy's just thief. He just repurposes everyone stuff in England. Although Thuc and panel shows he just takes shit. And then he does the same shit here. He's a hack he is. That's what I'm saying. It's like this hack that no one really knew how far down do they go? They went down with James corden like that's not that far. He's he was a massive name in a country of sixty million Bill shall keep looking. Then I don't know make fucking commitment James court. I mean that one really annoys me like you the name I have no idea. But I didn't know who he was either. Well, English whole scene. He was really big. Nothing to do with the states. Yeah. I guess so I'm just saying Jabber Noah. Like, I mean, it's just like. There's six on the network shows of white. It's just like succeeded, though, I know just so annoying. It's like why it's just like it bothers me. It bothers me. That's all I have. Like your father? My friends that live in the rooms. Yes. So it's like, everything sucks. But it's just like, but then, but then on the other flip side, you're right. Everyone's watching it. It is the way it is. They hired all the white. That's what people want. But then also all I do is here white dude's complain in the club's about how they're the victims of staff and things are unfair and all the blacks and trans are getting jobs. You know? So it's like hold on. Does everyone love it. And you're getting all the jobs or you a victim to some PC nonsense that you guys are making up like, that's what's annoying like the white dudes are getting all the jobs all the things and yet sit and complain that they're the underdogs all of a sudden that sure it's the there's no such thing as white dude's a group, it's individuals. So when you have an individual who works really finish this when you have an individual that works, really hard the script and they hear oh, I'm not reading the script from your gender and race. Sorry, say whatever you want. I sit at the cellar every night, you're all the fucking same. I. They're not gonna really talk. That's fine. I have been talking. I've been talking for years. We can go back to the Simpsons. I don't wanna like take all this. But I'm sorry did like I I went to Evan juggle Christian college. I went open-minded. It was close to my parents house. It was a commuter school. I just needed to get a degree. I didn't care. I went open minded, I didn't care. I was like I left being like you closed minded bigoted fucks. I went in. I moved to New York. I'm excited. I'm excited. I hang out. I do comedy. If you are funny. What I've been in New York for only four and a half years talks. All I honestly, it's like, it's disgusting. It real everyone. Annoys the shit out of me. I'm not just making this thing. Like dude sack. I read it in a paper. It's like I'm sitting night after night having discussion after discussion, and you all fucking pissed me off I can name five people. Maybe I still like. Whitehall, the shit out of me, you annoy me constantly everything you say, I'm like you make me livid. And then you know, they can black and white. So what you get the Simpsons tax. And it's like, yeah. Well, let's hang out. No because it is infuriating. It's an infuriating time. And I'm sick of arguing wasting my time talking to it's I don't think they want understand. I think most some things are victims to something. Yeah. I mean when I know of performer who because of their gender or race shar won't get seen. I'm like, oh, that's not right. Of course. Be mad at all the other way. But the conversation isn't like fuck other dudes in the room. They took one of my jobs. The discussion is always oh, well, they're only looking for a black person now. And it's like, yeah. Because they don't have one at all in the room. So that's the discussion. It's never like why did those other eleven white guys get the job? It's why didn't this. Why are they now looking for one black person? So that's what's annoying. It's like white dudes are getting tons of job. Just because you're a white, dude. And you're not doesn't mean collectively you're being attacked. But there is only two. Is only one block. Dude suck. They are getting collect say, it's it's research mother. I've been sitting I've been talking I've been trying and it is exhausting and most of the conver-, it's bad. It's not good. I don't like the pinions. I talked to. I'm not making blanket statements. I guess I should say all the comics that have ever talked to accept blankety. That sounds like a blanket statement, I've talked to them. And this is my opinion, I've had do friends. Liked and then post election the shit that came out of their mouth. I was like, oh, I thought you were my friend. I thought you were this person. Like, I don't think I can I don't wanna talk to you anymore. I'm done. I don't want to. And then you try again. And you're like, oh, you really believe that I don't want to engage with you anymore. So it's one by one. It's not a blanket statement is it's people I thought were friends my peers people I like people I perform with like go to their show. And then all of a sudden, it's like, wait you, oh, that's what you think. And so it's about what people are saying to me, and it happens to be. Maybe because there's more white dudes on comedy. But you guys annoyed the shit outta me. Truly. Sure. And that's it. But you still making blanket statements not blanket if I'm talking to all of you. I'm not talking with the ones I haven't met yet. No blankets, Saint Louis covering all of them. And one statement, whether it's research still blanket statement, maybe I don't know what blame can statement me in. I know a lot of guys are like upset because they're like they're like a white guy sucked average anymore. You can't be mediocre work a little harder, you're all fucking boring. And we've heard it before you're not g none of your poor trees, get better. I don't know. It's annoying and. Like the whole discover edgy comedies dead. This is what about and it's like, you kind of the best places ever been. All right. Well, talk to your fucking friends. Anyway, listen when people say a white guy suck and they're like, oh, that's terrible. And then the responses. Oh, you don't like it. Now, do you when people talk about white guys like that? And a lot of these like, yeah, I don't like it. I I that's why I would never say about all black people are on anything. And now you're telling me up by other people of my race. And it's like it's just like 'cause you're be better because you guys do suck. You don't understand? You don't understand that? You're ninety nine percent of the government in charge of business. There's power one of the government's, but everything is catered towards you. You got like the kid sort of me as a comedian now as you as a white there. There's a Homer joke about this. Lisa. I think says like a young girl. No, one listens to me. And he goes, I'm a white man age twenty five to forty everyone listens to me. I'm in that motherfucker. That's what we're living in you. Guys wrote all the books, you made all the curriculums you made all the laws, and then you point to those things as truth. And it's like, no, it's the fucking patriarchy, and you made it, and I'm sick of pretending. It's the truth. That's what's annoying. Like, I wanna do a joke about this right now where people are like well age of consent is sixteen and it's like who made that law old white talking creeps? You guys have controlled everything. And I understand there's people white dudes that have rough lives and families and could have been homeless and abuse there's multi layers to the human condition, and I understand this. But this and I'm a white person. I had to learn so much I'm fucking ashamed of some of my behaviors, and my beliefs and some of the prejudices that I didn't even think I had, but you have to look inside and understand like oh fuck I did do that. And that's not cool, and maybe I can grow here. You know, you don't want to be an old person that's part of the fucking problem. You don't wanna be an idiot. So you have to constantly exam in how am I? And how am I apart of racism and systematic racism, and why aren't doing more for other people that aren't myself? And so as a white person I have to constantly I that's what I do. I'm like, oh, I didn't realize that or allow it's constant or wild that person treated you like shit. Does this happen all the time? Wait, you can't do that. I didn't get that experience. And so for all these dudes instead of being victims to like, we're not all the same look inside. And look at how you're part of the fucking problem and examine your behavior towards women and exam in your privilege in this world instead of acting like fucking pieces of shit babies were you're not getting sympathy from black women. You're not fuck you. Fuck you better. Like, I just think white dudes because the whole country is created for you. You don't understand other people's flights and your it's really hard to see outside of yourself to see other people's experiences in how you're part of it. Okay. So can you see that it's tough when performer works really hard, and they. Say we're not gonna look at you. I just don't I just don't believe that you just said you can't see outside yourself, and you're not willing to see outside side. Just feel. Because you know, there is why Jude and he didn't get like a Netflix half hour. And he was saying because he was told it was because he was a white, dude. Three other white dudes already got it. So it's like it's not a white dude problem when a half of the six are still three white dudes. The industry's towards. I mean when I hear a lot of people complain about their whiteness that's holding back. I'm like, but you kinda suck. Yes. But also want to hear a lot of women complain. I'm like you also. So it's like that. Most people suck they suck. But when the industry is mostly men, and then they're complaining that it's like, I didn't get this. 'cause I'm because we're like now looking for the the, you know the. You know, I don't know the sixth person must be a this. And it's like, well, it's beyond the the the the makeup of the industry. That's what I'm saying. What down doing like ten percent like interviewing over industry standards? It's like, my friend works with autistic people. He's one of very few men that work in that industry. So he shouldn't suddenly be like we need to hire more men in this industry. He's like, it's just not a male industry. Yeah. But I don't think Egner tame is a not male industry. Stand up is is is mostly men. Yeah. So then when you hire fifty fifty it's like, we're not even saying fifty fifty. I mean Colbert is eleven white women six the six comics so said, I couldn't get seen. But there's three but also net flicks international. It's not just for you. That's what I mean. It's not they want appeal to everyone. Why wouldn't they have a woman women are half the half the population? Why wouldn't they wanna find women to do comedy? You know, what I see a lot of ice time. Is that everyone just here's argument. And I don't think it's I just feel presenting like black and white because I think the other I think it's a bigger problem. I it's like abortion related to that a lot because I'm pro abortion. But of course, I believe it's sort of murder, but it's for convenience. I'm okay with a, but like neither one of those sides even recognize the other side like it's on one side. They're like h motor like you don't even recognize. It's someone's actual body that you're you're deciding whether or not they should do with it. And then the other side they like, it's my body. And it's like, yeah. But it's on a tattoo. Don't act like it's not actually like a possible life here. And neither one even like is willing to open up to the possibility. Other thing. So it's like, yeah. They should be looking for winning. They five pass all these people and they hired Kobe who was established. They're always looking at Jon Stewart or they were for decades, the next talk show host because he was established. He kept saying no to. I mean at some point you gotta hire somebody, and it's like, I'm not gonna take a dive on money just because like I need to like fixed. Diversity and TV as TV is one thing. Born at just like, I don't know over it. No, I think a big people like you. And I who have no idea how to actually fix things just like I wanted this way house. 'cause I just throw money up things. I just like whenever I feel down on what's happening. I just go donate. To something. But I think talking I think doing jokes. I think put doing I think we I think communicate I know I I was at the seller or at the view a few months ago, but three dudes a row before me all had me to jokes about how hard me to has. And how they don't know how to compliment women interro cop. Like, oh, it's tough time to be a guy so three in a row, and I'm sure they're like, oh, my edgy materials making the crowds upset, and it's like, no it's half women. You're all doing the same shit. It's bullshit perspect-. And they don't wanna laugh. So when I'm on the only woman I show, and I get to go up and perform generally to move that is. Maybe not on a single level. But like when a joke doesn't work over and over again, they don't keep going all these crowds like jokes code. They realize it's like that can't work. I'll stop doing it. 'cause it's not getting laughs. Okay. I mean, otherwise, you're just you're just fail. Just keep doing jokes. Don't work, right. Coughing into this. I'm also sick about talking about this. It's on my mind constantly. It's really taken over. It's like really hard. It's like every day probably three times a day. I get into discussions about jump very passionate about it. It's just constant. And every time I have to remind myself like not today. Don't go into like do not do anything. Go on a bike ride. Fucking go to go to dance go to cough like it really taking over your psyche. And I do feel crazed and piss are used to really upset about the civil liberties we're losing until I started like, wait. We still have some liberties let me go take a walk in the park before the revolution comes. We lose the ability to even that right now. I'm like, do I spend my money on live like I've always wanted to live or am. I like saving up for the end of times. Like, I really don't know you can either not you someone can either be upset about how there's not enough women and whatever. Or you can be like safer set us once when we got heat for we didn't have any women this happening, and then she wrote to that blogger 'cause we had seven women and that she was like, oh, but still like what do you mean? But still admit that you're that that column was way off base shook it could be more it. She goes why don't use promote one of the women. We do have. She's I love actually love get into the women that are there to remind myself, and there's this awesome dance class going to LA ponies sweat, and like this was like the week a cabin on. I went to this dance class, and I looked around and I loved everyone, and it was all these cool s people with fun than it was just like such a beautiful moment. I was like just remember these people like watch great to hang out with your friends like be with positive people. And that's why when you're like, you're making blanket statements, like I'm just sick of talking to so many of the white dudes that are comics on my peers that like I just don't even knowledge them, I'm done. So that I'm tired of talking to you. I don't wanna fuck and fi leave me alone. Stop link devil's advocate though. Yeah. Yeah. It takes. Over my brain, really like to certain type of music rock whiteboard. Progressive rock, whatever. And then it's like, I would get mad at be fucking. Eventually. It's like who you like, it's fine. It's okay. It's nothing to do. With me. They're not taking my thing off the air. So they can put Bieber on. I mean, it's like there's room for everybody. Just be into what you're into and teens need some fuck idols. You know, I'm -solutely. Fine. I went to see him actually in Reykjavik, and it was like a really boring concert by how little he cared. I thought it'd be like that. The opposite. That upsets me, I was sure I was like our music, but he's gonna fucking kill it. Yeah. Well, yeah. Because when I went on that Papa Roach, Chris whatever and then your Papa Roach's playing you're on this crucial. And you're like, you know, what's great. We saw slayer bonnaroo do they fucking go for it. Not my kind of music, but they go for anything slayers higher up in the world. Then Papa Roach. Oh, okay. But when you see a ban like really care, then it's like good music on the Simpsons. I feel so favorite episodes. So this is the thing there's like so many different we some of your favorite. So I don't like the word favor. There's like different categories. So my favorite joke. Heavy episode is Homer Batman, the gummy Venus Demayo. That's yeah. The pan, and then you could see her jeans. It's on my dry race board on the cork part. I have a bunch of Simpson's pens. But I have the vote with Denham. What a great episode that was jokes on jokes jokes. And it's so smart, and it's still sensation. It's like today out of context with him. And it was like you must be doing this. You must have tried to molest women, and he was like what not rattler to this day. That's why you need YoM. Smart progressive people writing on the Simpsons to make young cool amazing in touch with reality episodes. And that is why the Simpsons fails. Right. They failed. Because now they're getting like pop stars to come in. It was always done it. And I love it. I love guests SARS, Don, I don't give a fuck. They're just do walk on. I love. They're like Britney Spears Britney Spears today. And it's like, oh, gosh what we're supposed to be a show. I just have these Simpson's coasters. I looked at auto. And I was like I bet my younger years would have tried to fuck auto thing. So for one hundred percent. Please smells like autos jockettes. So Homer Batman? I also I love the school. I was I was really good. I like to I take this. When terms like the rages that are happening. Now what I call them just like the mobs on the intro. Can you say there's fifteen minutes of gender you could fast four to listen. I just want you to warn everyone of top two. We'll we'll get back to the Simpson. Chris gonna hate me or people are gonna hate my say like people are mad at you. And you wanna go convince them not to be mad at you or whatever. And I compare it to Homer coming out of his house guys guys. I didn't do and they fuck you. Well, no because then his his his robe flies up and he shows his dick. That's. Look what he's doing. There's no winning. So it's like don't open your door. Wait till they go away. Don't open your door. So many good lessons. I really think about the Simpsons almost every day like Clark moved back and forth as they as they took his stuff out of context. Twenty twenty interview or whatever man that was a really good one. So that also is a gummy bear fan. Yeah. There's gummy bear painting in the kitchen. I really go full on in my interests. You could see I like to like get what about Conan's best episode. I don't really know. I can't I don't really know which I think monorails over. Unfortunately, if people say that the best one it's kind of like stairway to heaven where it's like great. But it's overplayed, it's just it's not for me. You don't like it radioactive, and I like them, I wouldn't I don't hate them. Of course, there's so many jokes like the they're very overrated to me what up at them. I just thought I love the we put the spring in spring field the burlesque house. I forgot what it's called. But that I was really good one. Gotta get a job at this at this horse. I love that. It's just so good. To demolish the March March we had a song. Every song. Vicks and. Yes. I also my favorite is large of the dance. It is a later season. I think it's nine or ten I can't remember at this point. But it's Lisa and Lisa Kudrow plays Phoebe, the cool girl that comes to school. It was a nice one some of my favorite jokes when Marge graining Lord the end when Marge is like Greece bowl just got too early. You have really good memory. I remember I went to Simpson's trivia, and I was humiliated really twenty two out of fifty with team. I mean and people got like forty nine. I I went to like find a husband. I left humiliated. Do the same thing. I watched someone special. I love what job is your favorite. I already forgot all of them. I really do a member. Having a great time watching see the thing. But I mean, this is the one I remember, but it was like what is the name of the store the Simpsons bought their pool. And it's like you mother fucker on. But that become all it was that was an easy one. Like, this was the hardest trivia ever been show. What Jimmy Kimmel one to you know, was the host? I'm because Morgan was doing a standup on it Clinton Tarantino hosted, no. It was the guest. Wow. Cool under mckim. Oh, cool though. He socal that's like ta that's like, yeah. Morgan did well too. But like who was it Morgan Murphy, I like her so much, by the way. She wrote those Roseanne was like. This is terrible. I wrote it. I'm a Jewish woman. Fuck you. She said she was on followed by like legit. I'll tell you after the show like legit like Hollywood people that were friends with like I'm on following on blocking. You like your blocking me because the character one of the fucking sixteen carat is for Trump. We're such device time. But we are. Anyway, they had a they had a Tarantino trivia contests. This Tarantino expert when against tarintino in trivia, contests and beat him amazing. Yeah. Shit is not quite who. Who knows the most? Yeah. It's like the spirit for short. But I love when March goes are you gonna make her money through Greece and homers, like no through loans, and wise investments, of course, through Greece. I got not WordPerfect. And then my other favorite line ever not episode is he does lease. I can't imagine anyone like as great and amazing is you? But I guess this new Alex girl is so you better do whatever she says. So. So I share I six comes out of forgot I'm remembering as I'm coming out of it. She comes out of her. She fainted and comes out of it. I share. No. I'm just saying that. Yeah. That's Lisa's rival. That's an earlier for at least episodes are obviously my favorite so interesting. Because to me, those were me, and my brother like, these are the most boring episodes. Yeah. I more heartfelt lost in Russia town and tries to go to the exhibit. He like one bar gets things like such phase. But she wants to go see the ISIS exhibit exhibit like. No. Of course, it isn't. It's like the pyramids. And so a Homer she takes the bus. She gets off on the wrong spot. She goes. They see this music, and then he like remembers, and it's just like ISIS exhibit forgot the law. Yes. Something like that. But it's lease. It's loss for showing. Vegetarian. I mean BBQ you don't make friends with salad. I mean, come on pigs fly. Two girls. Sharon, terry. Lisa like. Yeah. Yes, I'm gonna marry. Do they nailed kids? So well, yes, those are my favorite others. So I love the PTA disbands where they go on strike and like bar that. Yes. So there's a few hold on. Let me just say them all because I'm so stoned now so and I wanna smoke more. So than its way. When there's like they go on the field trip and the buses breaking down at it's like a nightmare. They lost kids autos fat asses running and so. What's it called? And then they go on strike, and yeah, they're all fighting, and they have to deal with it. I also garbage man EDNA and Skinner and the CRA bubble dating scam. That's a different one. So that's the fucking one where he admits he's the virgin, and it's like the hotdog dynamite. And it's like I saw the baby and the baby way to be love it. And then there's another one where the PTA goes on the PTA all the teachers go on strike and Skinner and they're all fighting. I also love DASS bus, which is like the. I don't know if that's that's bus. It's the Lord of the flies one where the the boss goes down. They've learned that I love that. And I love mill house. He's the cutest mill houses mom for Halloween wants, blue eyebrows. All fucked in the wig, and it was like the best of my live. Really? Yeah. Of course. Well, then I took it. Or hot clearly off, the blue eyebrows. Obviously, it was humiliating. But yeah. At a fun blue egg. And I was she's a slut with her jacuzzi suit feeding American. I think that is highly rated and it belongs there like that is one of the best ones at ver- with them. Breaking up. Yes. Mill house divided. Titles are really good too. Yeah. Everything's it's used to watch the legal site, and they had them all. And so that's how I'm good at the titles now, but the FX accepts apps, and so I don't really watch it as much anymore. So it goes from big to small every episode, and can if you pay just not a good app, you know, big to small like if it's full screen when it go HBO go does this too on your laptop like it'll go back to the small screen, the little mini, and then you have to open it again alert. It's just not user friendly and on this. There's still come. It's just not the best app. Like I like to go to sleep two shows. So like with big saw I'll watch big mouth in our BoJ act, but the Simpsons will still play commercials, and it's just like doing weird things. And so it's ex. Yeah. It's bad. The was never that. Good bother me. Guys. It lags Netflix. She's a very good app. And so all of them are like all of them are little annoying except for that one. And they always try to update whatever who cares, but really used FX. That's so this is a dream thing. I brought this out my it's I bought this probably when I was a teenager. But my dream is to have a big enough. So it's like a poster book, everyone big book of posters, and my dream is to have a home big enough where I can put them all in a hallway framed everywhere all over my house because I'm not going to open it unless I can hang them. All yeah. It's like beautiful, and I. Yeah. I and I've saved it all these tell you that I represented represented I worked for like a company. That stocked. Hallmarks homework stores. Okay. Cool. Yeah. So the off season we have take thanksgiving stuff. Put it back in the warehouse Christmas stuff put it back in. So they had a a sidewalk sale once and all this stuff was going on sale deeper, and there was eight Simpson's posters like how that like wobbly, citing. Yeah. Did you buy them? I got a bunch of because I kept waiting till. I went down for like fifty cents each still have them in there. I would. Somewhere. My closet right now. What I'm like? Oh, yeah. I still how these from since I was about sixteen. Yeah. It's really cool. Some of my best toys are still at my parents house. Don't wait. Yeah. It's like, what are we waiting for those toys? Well, I'm not fascists with. Yeah. I want to own a place, and then I can open these up. There's no point 'cause I have. So this isn't even a favorite episode. But toys, I think this is blessed, but I have I don't even know this. Well, but it's when the there's a company the plant has a baseball game. So it's all of them in their baseball outfits and burns baseball softball. Whatever. Without Zeki and fucking all these. Yes. Now's again. Yeah. Junior big head. We'll miss the burns had done at the power plant had wanted with Roger Clemens plugging all. Tragic illness. While Wade Boggs unconscious on the ballroom tile. We're talking saw from Maine to sandiego, Tom saw-, Manningly end could sake, Ken, Griffey's, grotesquely, swollen Joan? Steve sex and his running with the law would talk in home. Straw. Saw ball vein to San Diego. Mattingly and Conceico Ken Griffey's grotesquely swollen jaw. Steve sax and his running with. Talking. Ozzie and the straw. So that's like, I don't I'm not I don't know that one. Well, and then I also have a school bus with auto and the boys now, oh, I love Bart on the road. I love it where they're all wearing colorful, pastel wags and fuck and outside Knoxville Knoxville. Factory. I love and I quote this all the time. Like, yes, we do. According to the sign who has the best maps the best maps in the states. It's rand McNally. According to Raymond alley map who. I don't even remember that jet. Oh, I love quoting that shit. So. And like if I'll be like a. It'd be something like this like beyond unbleached raw papers. I'm not doing well here to be in the right situation. Yeah. But it's like. Yeah. I can't even place it now what how I use it. But anyway, yeah, there's some good episodes. Two short films about Springfield. I love that. One. Is good wall. Steamed clams. Yeah. All sort of interwoven with with Homer loses finger. She's the governor hair. I love all the different hairstyles. So my well, that's a different. Little lady or will really mess up your hair. I love the. Yeah. I love Lisa beauty Queen. I love when they go on the beach house, and she pretends to be cool and like steals, all of Bart stuff. I love the line from that Nelson together. I love when Lisa pretends to be called student. That's a later one favorite line from that one beauty quiz Homer is like she packs nothing because she wants to buy this stuff, and she gives her suitcase to home or home picks up. It goes this. This is really light. She goes just getting strong goes. I haven't eaten a lot more lately. I also sorry. They're all just popping into my head. What are you at least a character? She's my idol. She's like one of my top Eitel's. Like, I look to her for like my spirit until like be strong. I love Malibu Stacy. I think that's like one of the best fucking episodes. And doesn't bother you that she was written by all white men. They did a great job. That's it's like, I don't know. It was amazing. I just want young. It's just like the times change move on. Let's do it. No one's like it's the best thing ever. You know what I mean? Like, you guys created the best thing ever. Now. It's like fuck him move on move on. On the best anymore. So it's like all right. It's not the best anymore. It was the best retire. What do you do? You think? How sad will you be? When it ends. I'll be thrilled. Because what I'm scared of is in the grand scheme. I mean, we're probably going to die from the climate. But grand scheme of history. I'm scared that south park's going to go down as the greatest because it's been better for longer. It's subversive more recently than south than the Simpsons was super subversive. You gotta watch. Senate try to find it again posts on the website. But it said how the first eight seasons of Simpson's is a completely different show than the next twenty seasons. Should not be compared they have similar character. They have short, but if similar looks, but they are different shows, and it should not be compared to other. Yeah. Just an upset that. That's what's going to go down in history. Always me bothers almost like a kid show. Now, it is my so I obviously an amazing aunt so I mean, I'm actually okay. But I'm cool. But I got them all involved in the Simpsons, very young. So we do trivia we got the board game, and they're all very invested. And we go to the toy sore, but they love the new ones. But when I come to town, they we put on old ones, and they know that I don't watch the old ones. But they like. Yeah. Their kids. Well, fifteen eleven and thirteen. I feel we've been watching since they were children. I feel like when the Simpsons ends I'll treat it like one a musician or actor dies, but they weren't a musician actor that was still making stuff David Bowie dis. Oh, fuck what do you mean? When the joker whatever his name is died. It was like what he was still in his prime. But like when some old old actor dies, it's sad. But like, I'm not gonna miss anything from my life because he's gone. There's nothing that was gonna come into my life. It's no longer. I. Okay. So like, let's Bob Newhart when he dies. It'll be like, oh, that's sad. That guy was a good comic. But when Patrice died it was like, I was still going to be taking in Patrice stuff. I'm missing stuff that would have been made. God that you know, what I mean? When assessing goes, I'm sure I'll be like all this is probably going to binge of watching the old episodes. But it's like you're done giving me stuff on this. Remind me, I don't know all the names. But one of the guys that writes, he's kind of a deck. He lives in New Orleans all this money, but he's actually very cool. But he's involved in Monty python or some kind of other cool chain. I don't know. But he was like he hates movie studios and big companies, and he has all this money. So he spends his time suing them and getting tons of money that he's back deserved because he knows how fucked up they are. And he'll just like sue people that deserve it. So I don't know which one it is. But that is very cool. Just one of the regional big time. Writers one of the I don't know which one it is. It's like one of the cool ones. I'm I don't really know. All their names. You are right. There was all written by all these amazing fucking white. You dudes, and I get it. The part of me is like, I don't know. Appreciate what's good is. It's very good. And that's what I mean. Like, I. Don't go out for Matt. What's the other guys the British custom coordinates coordinates like I get that he make guys money. But if you're just talking about talent, it's like he's on funny hack. So if you're gonna get unfunny hack, then sure get a fucking while. I guess daily show did. You know, get someone diverse on funny. You know? Yeah. I guess that's what they did. But also scenario get someone talented about also I love I love beat Nick Ned. I love little bad Ned getting spanked a lot. Yeah. He got where he got goody goody speed into his. Nothing. We've run out of. I love. How annoying Homer is? I love that. He goes nuts. I love it. I love the butthole surfers. And I'm with stupid t shirts that the boy. I love it. I don't know if it's one of my favorites. But I like it, of course, I mean, it says I love everyone's invited a party in my mouth and everyone. I just like certain lines. Yet they eventually wanted to his character a little bit. And I liked how they flushed him out. Yeah. He's just so ugly. But it wasn't that ugly because he's a cute cartoon. So I was like who like who our ugly is the. He painted the Simpsons as real humans in like three d. I remember Homer went into the, oh, we talk about treehouse of horrors. Yeah. But I'm every year. I love them every year. They would do a Halloween episode three three different one acts Leonard nimoy. What was he just in the? He would a while. Or was he just in the one where burdens everyone thought it was an alien fun. But the tree house every year me, and my brother looked forward to it so much because it was just so like it was a departure. We're like do Charles dick and stuff? They would do like Edgar Allan Poe things. A lot of. Smart people things that I just know of is because of the Simpsons so when someone who's that fucking poet laureate, and that up Assode, but like all here of an artist or something, and I'll know it just from the Simpsons or reference there's been times where I've seen the Simpsons liked it, whatever. And then a decade later like oh fuck I'll find out what their referencing a phone. But you know, what they did? So well, this is what Star Wars did not do. Well, they laid it in so well that like if you don't the reference, that's okay. You can still get this joke. When when when when the groundskeeper Willie ripped off a shirt, and he's yeah. Yeah. Loving that so much and then way later finding out the old black and white movie referencing and going out of the Stella or no, I don't know if there's a werewolf. What movie isn't frown some block of my move. I don't know. I eventually saw. And I was like oh fuck their genius. You still like the joke, and they didn't just put it in reference. They put it in reference also worked if you have no idea which like the best the best marshes to me Tarantino's good at that. Actually. Yeah. He's appearance on the Simpsons and in the twenty two short films. I love that. They do Tarantino nod. That's pretty I love that. It's mail house wielding this like had thing that knocks that guy Herman is such a piece of shit, which ones fake jeans army guy with the one arm. Fuck you. Oh, I go to sleep since. I hate ape. Simpson's voice. I I don't really love his episodes, even those funny 'cause voices grading to me. He's a character because he annoys the rest of them. So you're also annoying me. It's like your stories. No way is the joke. But am I listen to a story? Go nowhere to get the joke. It's so funny. I never got that. That's so fucking funny. It's like, yeah. He's real. My bladder was gonna burst like always bladder Burs. Crissy's goofy is Jala love when he goes into fakes his own death. What about across the nothing with this? I mean, this probably just spoke to me more than. Ducks Jewish father that embarrassed him by being entertainer or not high mckrinkowski is that his name. I am Christoph. Yeah. I think so I also what's the fuck? I love sideshow. Bob, a lot love has that. Pursuits cape. Fear is the best one. They milked it in the end been mayors grey. They. Was a little at nor did a great job early on. It was like when he's the Cape fear at salt. For sure for good. It really brings a tear to my eye. One of my favorite lines was that when home embarks running everyone else's draw. Everyone wants tied up and it's like, they're not home or just sleeping. But but then, but then my favorite joke was BART's running away. He runs the front of the boat. He goes oh shit. It's like, wait and say oh shit. Oh fuck. It's like alligators. Then runs the back, and it's electric heels. Oh, no one's the front. It's alligators. Oh, yeah. That's right. I love the shortcut through the cactuses. So okay. So let me bring this up to you, please. When they started putting on seven o'clock on on syndication. They would shorten jokes cut stuff out to make room for one more commercial. You're right because on the internet. They I do recognize things that I don't remember as a kid so one of the jokes they ruined because it's not the Simpsons creators deciding what should be edited. It's these guys who run fucking ABC, FOX. Daytime is when. Such Bob gets off under the car, you know, and he's he's gone to the cactus patch and everything like that. And then he steps on a rake hits the face. Yeah. And then he steps on another required in the face. And then he sets another Reich face, and then he keeps doing. And when you're watching it the Joko funny to like, okay, it's dumb now. It's not funny anymore, and then eight nine rakes, and you're like how long are they going to keep doing this? And it goes back to Larry on syndication three Ricks, and it's over. Wow. They took away the joy of that joke. Yeah. You got to trust artists. How do you feel about family guy? At this point. Care. I the only way I can enjoy guys watch the first two acts and then skip a third act. It's so boring, and it's so like summit up and do like message that it's like it makes me hate family guy. South park should on them, so hard justifiably. South park, at least gives it up for family guy for I for for Simpson's found the guy acts like they've nothing to do with them. Come on, man. They paved the way for you south park, at least has an episode going. Simpson's Simpson do it and getting so upset like everything he wants to do die. Can we just keep trying to do stuff? Offer forever. What do you want? What do you want from us? Simpsons fans are pretty wild and rabbit. I love the trivia night that I said was hard. They have like one in. They have one in Canada wanna Brooklyn Chicago. And I'm missing a couple and they do a Halloween contest cons costume contest. Every year to and those photos are great can you speak to the openings? I love my favorite one is when the Flintstones are sitting there. I only saw it once, and it's really rare treat that like really stands out to me. I like a lot of them. I don't really remember them. I guess that's not where my brain go. I like them all their quick. It was only back. Then the only thing that did even a different at all different. Opening was Cosby show did a new one every year, but it was still the same throughout the whole year. Simpson's every episode. So you wanted to watch the cold open. They would do that. Then go to commercial and come back every other show. I don't have to start tuning into eight. Oh, three the Simpsons. I got to be there at o'clock or all miss the blackboard and the couch. It was such a cool gag that blackboard. Yeah. Wow. It was such a cool guy. There was like every week with something. Interesting. Yeah. Reminds me how much I love EDNA grapple. Yeah. She's really sad. She was but you have. But I love I love her. When do they all eat away throw? Yeah. That's one. They suck. Obviously. Oh, so I did there is a Simpson's podcast. Julia prescott. Julie prescott. Allie gretz. I don't I'm saying their names Rodman because she works. She's at magic because he now. No, I don't think. So I just follow her an Instagram. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know have a resume, but they have a Simpson's book I haven't gone yet. But they're podcast you pick your favorite episode. And what they told me before I went on was like pick one that you have an emotional connection to not just like a great one. Because I said jokes wise Homer bad man, but I love Lisa's wedding. And like, I love it. And I watched one a lot where she's at the renaissance fair and the fortune teller, and she looks in her future and she's in Britain, and it's like a Hugh Grant type, and they fall in love and come back, and you know, it's just the future there's video phones, and they still don't let Maggie talk. Roughing fired. I went to a strip club. But yeah, I love the future them, whereas very clear that BART's cool guy in high school, whatever they are. But in the future, it's like, hey, that's not gonna result in you. Having a good life, bro. He loves to smash things, but he has this beer any party. But I like how the reality of is like you're a bad student man that doesn't result in your sisters going to be the president because she works hard. I know she might be a nerd now. But in the future when you're working hard actually pays off. What about the one where the Guana? Where he finds in the eggs. No, no, no, no job job. But what about job job, it might be my favorite, richest episodes. They have the six foot long sub that keeps trying to eat itchy and scratchy land. Wow. Yeah. Lisa trips out. Yeah. I am the lizard quia. Can't talk coming down. It's death guard ends. Yeah. But the sub is amazing. I love Homer eating the cheese sandwich the sugar. I love him with food, obviously. How are you? Homer fatman. So my friends have a kid and so up who's place. I have the home earn a MU I have the Homer. Yes. So the hat was missing the little like she played with all my toys. I'm like it's fun to come to my house. If you're a kid, and I just found it recently fingers can't touch the mesh size found the hats. I'm going to bring him back out. But I was I was so sad. 'cause he's kind of expensive Homer he materials to and it's only sold on a thing. Like, there's just I'm not as precious like I'm waiting to open it. So I can like display and be rich and play with. No, I have an autograph White Sox ball something. Parents. I just like I can't I really would love to have a home and just like fucking all my fucking shit by do job. I'm you know, I'm spread out. Got a lot more prob-. Probably you have more sincere than anyway, though. Even when I was younger, I was gonna say say for the Dow Jo-. Yeah. Please worn everyone that gets back to Simpson's. Can you do that for me up top? You know, what I don't want them to to warn them that we'll get back to something that if my life also realize just take it or leave it but realize like I don't want to take away from the thing that I am doing with my with my whatever I'm passionate about. So like I have to stay focused on like entertainment value of what I'm doing. So I can show people. This is solid and not get lost on civil liberties or whatever for sure that's why I just want to give them a heads up. I'll do vicious, but they come out. Yeah. I'm kind of I'm like, I let a loss for words. But I want to not stop, you know, I wanna keep shocking. I don't want to end at what let me try to think what else upsetting to me. But I love when Lisa Nelson day of Homer, the shooter who killed shoe shot. Mr. Berg, Sean. Here's what that video set. And I'm gonna I'll post the guys on the on the website on the video said that when they went south was when Skinner did the fake Skinner that he took over. I love that. They said they complete betrayed everything. The character was and they just made up some shit. They'll like he always was this mama's boy, and they're just like now that was all lie. He. He is living this mama's boy character out of like what that doesn't make sense to the world you made up. Yeah. I don't know how we got to walk way better than I did. But I was because I never see that point of view. I don't I think that sodas funny. It's absurd as hell Bochum. I love the pretzel. I love Marge the pretzel with the investments in the the fleet a pita. I really love that. How about you know, my name how about when? Oh, okay. So it was going to say what they did say was when it Simpson's came out. I forgot one other favorite Gordon. The struggle of the class, the Chanel sue Marge the golf club. Yeah. So it'd be like the, you know, we'll park far away and walk them. I love that one. So they said when the Simpsons started it was subversive to the idea of sitcom because sitcoms were about these functional great families, and they were like fuck you the Simpsons at that point. We're going like we're shitting on TV itself. How cool and then after a while they actually just started blending in with TV itself. So they weren't shitting on TV, which is fine. Whatever that most TV's not shitting on TV. That's really well way to send me that good Email that I miss. That's so I love that. I assumed you weren't responding because one of the fucking six days a week. You're mad at me that tell you really annoy me so much. Disagree. You have time. I'm gonna fuck with you. So what about the episode? And in terms of that in terms of fucking TV. The who shot Mr. burns was a straight knock off of Dallas. Okay, shot JR, and it was his cliffhanger. And for the Simpsons cartoon into a cliffhanger is like what? Yeah. And the whole off season. Yeah. You're probably too young. We were like who did shoot fucking Mr. birds. We couldn't wait for the next. Experience that one. So you watch it every Sunday with your friend without a fight with Mitzi. The owner of the comedy store should me take care of rubber fucking feet massage. Your back. Yeah. Man power positions are all not all men on think. That's I've never said that. The world. But like. Anyway, I'd be over there. And she'd always watch MSNBC she liked that guy awry late that might be FOX watch new stuff. Like it was over there once and it was it was forty five. And now, it's eight o'clock. She's not coming in. And I wanna like I wanted to drop her off at the source. I watch the Simpsons and fifteen sixteen seventeen years ago, and she's like, no. So I turn on the Simpsons and she'd be in her kitchen, and she like, why are you doing? I'm like, I'm watching the Simpsons. Let me know when you're ready to go to the it back to say or FOX whichever wanna what talking back on news. I'm watching this. The only one of the only says I fought with our why no I didn't get my way. So I'm like, I'm watching this. Because Tarn you're not even here in the other room. What's the difference? My watch show. I was so mad that she wouldn't let me watch my fucking joy. She what she was in the room with this watch it. Wow. Such a mean woman, really shoe? So mean, trying to hurt me for no reason, you go watch and the kitchen your fucking, Fox News. Saturday. You had this your relationship very weird relationship. But. But yeah, I watched it at eight o'clock every day. It was fucking great. That's amazing. It's amazing. Have had that cliffhanger. God. It was so interesting that everybody was talking about it. And like, do you have any enemies? Yeah. Mr. burns has some enemies. I love all the reasons why everyone can kill him. And then it was just that just school of music name. I really what about this episode Straub, Mr. nerds Trump. Oh that was my one of the great. Overrated that was one of the. Yes. That was perfectly rated you are these they talk about that in the video as being one of the best of all times. Yeah. What about the episode where Lisa and Ralph or at the award show? Yes. And then they do this weird things where he goes. I don't love you. I don't I won't go out with you. And then it just stops what backs up, and he says Bart and right, here's whereas break. He said. So good. I feel so bad for row cards. You're so cute. Choose you me at love it. I mean, that's like the cutest thing we all wrote Valentine's cards with choose you those the next three years. But it was fine. Yeah. They're so smart. And I love the songs I love the for vast. I'm trying to think of other songs that they are you still watching the new ones and not really know like the kids or the last one I watched was like, the hipster wine. And I liked that. I I watched the leg one probably. And I don't know if I loved it. But I did love the Portland. The that's. That's about breast. No. I don't know. I was like into it eventually had to stop watching. I gave it way long the most people twenty years in. And then I'm like this is for children. It's gonna make me mad at them. I love the obviously the city of New York verse Homer Simpson. What the cop collage and the crab Jews? And I love everything still driving that abandons. Lisa chew where she sees the inside out dead rabbits. And she's like what's happening and Marge is like they're sleeping like she's not a fucking idiot. She knows her dad but second grade. Yes, she's young. Centers never got any older. That's like how much can you milk out of one? It's weird that it's so long. I don't know. It's weird. But I get through the like you guys graduated you're in the next grade now, so we're gonna get new teachers we're gonna get new people doing stuff with. So that we can choose new characters. It's weird. But so is different show. That will do somebody else there's the heart warming. So obviously do it for her. And it's like the March Simpson. I mean, the Maggie Simpson photos homers at work, and he looks at photos of Maggie, heartwarming. How Lisa got her saxophone like Lisa on ice is actually one of the top. Great still. We saw is at least are on opposing hockey teams. Good. I thought it was like about accents, so bad accents. And they're going to show. That's like no you get to sit up from one such domer- such a bad parent. And is this the the swinging the fist go I love how this is lost Lisa again. But I love when bar is apologizing to hurt through the bedroom door, but she's not there because she's snuck out. I love that show. So fucking in the mini golf thing. That was like sexy to me like I could not stop while Homer in Mars like we end billing and doing. At the farm. And then they're like they only wanna fuck in public. And they get caught like that was so risque risque to like, I was I couldn't believe at them flashing back to other dating and they'll have a picnic, and and they're kissing Marge like homeless, the fireworks Marge. We have all the fireworks will need ready here. And then he like open basket full of fireworks. Young homer. So damn they also they do they change the way they met a lot. There's lots of different stories the stories of their growing up. I think what about that fucking Marty. Jeff Marty's, Jeff I need. Yeah. Yeah. God he was I- person. You're supposed to hate him though. I know they keep so rich. Fuck. All right. I'm far over as I can go. He reminded me to walk in the mud. No good in him. He reminded me of Alan Cummings character Romi Michelle high school reunion, like ugly, kind of weirdo becoming super rich. Oh, I really didn't talk about this one where Troy not Troy McClure. Yeah. Dated data married. Salma? Not emphysema. I just love the fucking of the fish. I love you. He had a fish. He likes. Oh, you're homeless. You're homosexual. Oh, it's not no. Hollywood is it's it's out there. I love it. Oh, obviously, one of the grades that people. Is you only move twice. Thanks scorpio. And they moved to that rate. One complete send up a fuck in normalized JAMES BOND villains. Yeah. Home are doing a great job. If you got to move on. I understand skews me for flame thrower, just like. And I love that. He was such a success and his family is dwindling. I love everytime. She drank wine March. That was very oh. Yeah. She. Yeah. She's going terrible. And then you're like, no. Normally I'm supposed to glass of wine today. But I can only one now hang Scorpio is the toy. I wanna get that. I don't have. That's like a hard toyed. I get have you ever come back. Now, just I wanna what's his name Balbir, Al Brooks voice debt. And so that was pretty fun. Really was that. Hartman was the best like carrot like like guest star character. -tarian? Very funny. Video is like so amazing. Oh, the food chain every one he did. Hi, I'm trauma chlorate. I'm here to tell you about some safety. Hi clara. I'm here to tell you about the montages for those all have so much fun. Posting videos for this episode gal Sanchez. Yeah, he really like a gift to the world into the Simpsons. And it's really really sad God. And that was the guy who you know, he wasn't getting paid a lot to do that. He was just like, I'm creative only part of this creative thing. Oh, love the lemon tree. I mean, how to go into Shelbyville. Oh, Springfield suck. It's probably why beat you and football nearly half the time. Oh, I love Homer's phobia. That's later. That's a but with John waters, and we'll be gay people. What's up screaming all the time? Because. A hidden night. Tears. He. Yeah. But I don't something happened as a cue car went into the lake or sauce. Dead body overused imagery, I think is the three eyed fish. I'm like, I it's not even that. I mean, that's a bad ass Marge move. When she served that three I thin that is when Marge was like, yes, that's such a mountain. I love her at that. In terms of timelessness. I think that's what's missing right now from our side of the politics political sphere to attack the the the right is instead of saying fuck you fuck you. It's like well. Here you go. Here's your stuff. How do you feel? How do you like it? Now like deal with what you have. You know? I mean, we're. You know, I mean where it's like take fucking Republican on a hiking, but others as far as we can go because this is no longer national park. Stuff like that. Instead of just screaming. Fuck you. I'm not going to serve you. I will serve you. You will be allowed in my home. And I'll make my statement the way I wanna make it. Well, yeah. Yeah. That was great. When she served a great mother. And then he was like, nah, I'm not eating this. Before the fish? It's the floor has like flash flash flash flash. Your campaign is over. Yeah. This is a burns running for office really is like Trump. No the day. He won. I posted the Republicans. We're evil we want. What's worst for everyone the banner and the Republican headquarters immediate let that's like where I want to. Wow. Well, that's I that's top ten. I love that one. I love cutters. Yeah. Like, I if someone actually somewhat that on let's say like, I would fuck anyone with that too. But I do know about that too. And I would. On fuck whoever that is. It's just like a different thing. But I love the cufflinks from Lisa's wedding. The pigs like the little bride and the little groom that Homer once Hugh grant's character to wear like that's really cute like if someone got like I would like that. She's embarrassed him. Yeah. Because I feel like I have a four, and that's why it's so personal to me is like people would make fun of my dad's accent or that he was old and staff, and I really kind of related that at the end of the day. She was like, you know, what fuck you, you know, like, how kind of how dare you? I never really liked that. Mar that three I'd fish is like, that's really cool, but Mr. burdens, it's fucking evil. And he's never oh my God. This is a later one too. But I love the Lisa recycling with with Mr. burns, and he loses all his money old the old man Lisa, and he has to go grocery shop teaching in this port. No. And then he like still becomes evil. It's like he never ever is redeemed. And that is true. What about Smithers? I love him. I love that. He's gay closeted for the longest time out. It was like kind of hints were dropped. And then eventually when it was acceptable. What's Ellen paved the way, then it was like, okay? He can come actually don't even remember the episode where he's out and about, but I love all the jokes. I mean, I feel bad for him like when he's getting Bumblebee allergic reaction. Like, I'm like, let's give Smethers up right burns. Just suck is deck. Once you know, like burns. It's what about the strike the wrong is like amazing like Lisa needs braces. Like the cavern climbed braces, the ugly thing. Like, I love that. Love that song. Go ahead. It's all your fault. It's all your fault. When it's like, everyone thinks about parts everyone's going to blame bar over everything. I don't even remember that one Dan the thing is occupied wrapped up. So it is it really is. And it's beautiful. And it's like we've already we didn't even talk about the police the mob the blowfish episode. What do you think he's going to die? Let's finish off the three I fish because when that came out that really nuclear waste was like a big issue, and they were dealing with it when no I mean. No stick deal. Sure. But no one even at all was dealing with a couple of expose journalists. And that's it. Yeah. So them dealing with like, hey, you're fucking up the environment and a weird new way. It was it was overplayed, the three fish said. Well, it's like that's the number one tattoo out there. It's the number one kind of imagery. And I guess I just more like cute things. So I'm like, I'm just like not as into the fish. I'm just trying to think of the last few that I love what are you fucking at where you I just take a car car. Of course. Wow. You're tightly scheduled are you living here? Now, are you leaving? Are you doing it up to Kelly soon? No, I don't do that anymore. There's last year was my first year, I stayed here. Okay. Yeah. Place in California. Yeah. No, I love for the first year. Just switch with Benji Joe. Which with okay. Yeah. Very very cool. Yeah. Many ber- I'm trying to go through the mall. Arnold schwartz. Mcbain? That's obviously if I also love it. She and scratchy I love that. There was a show within a show all the time when they win and the the PTA the mom just shutdown beaver for the good people of actually enjoyed it. Yeah. And they made her into Sunday like we're gonna eat mocking. That's also relevant today. How people trying to shut down stuff has doesn't concern them? It's like you're not a fan. Why are you worried about what they're doing? You know, it's like can't loss. Go listen, the fucking what you wanna listen to worried about so many things Bradley Rex fucking get out of here percent. I do love one eight like wouldn't be leaves him money. And he's spruce up the old folks home. I really enjoy that a lot. Oh, I love the chili. I love the his drug trip. Mercilus chili pepper quit sockets in ongo, bro. On me by the image of Guatemalan insane asylum. Yeah. People love that one. And I I'm on board. I'm on board with that. It's truly great. I mean, there's the nerds like, it's really it goes. So so d- mayor Quimby the Mensa like so many characters so in depth. Yeah. It's really I love it so much, and I'm I like I said I think about it almost every day because they are. So referential words thirty years and you're about thirty. I'm thirty one that's your whole life. Yeah. I remember at some point when I'm like, it's been there for half of my life, the Simpsons and now it's far more than half of my life. Your it's your whole life. I mean, you don't remember you couldn't remember world without the Simpsons cracks. There's actually I'm maybe I I don't know if people care, but there's a picture of me. And this is before I even watched it. But my I'm three years old just moved to America standing on the roof of our car, and I'm holding a paper Bart Simpson that my sister's best friend made. And so it's like it's as big as me, and it's just like, you're right. I've had bar in my life since I. Yeah. Mike holding his three. Oh, so predates your fucking time here in America. Wow. I'm holding a cute little kid. So even before I watched the show bar. Yeah. They it's everywhere. It's Michael Jordan. It's really Michael Jordan. Like, it's known universal. Like, if you say that like, no matter where you are someone. Well, now, it's the Michael Jackson episode was great. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm so lucky because my name is LIZA. So and I've such talented friends. So. Matteo drew me as Lisa Simpson her outfit, but it's happy birthday. Lisa, and it's home are carrying me. And I real name as a guest star on that. But he find he admitted the Simpsons recently admitted at the other fun facts. I don't know how intense fans are here. But when. Maggie says one word data. It's it's Elizabeth Taylor. Wow. Really? Yeah. So that's like a Maggie Elizabeth Taylor. Doing stories falls that played into the world and didn't just say John waters so much where he's just so gay and home or wants to make Bart not gay. He makes me working power plant. Mask about what's. So he's like I want Larrabee cigarettes. Yeah. Homer's like such a buffoon. That's why it's someone Ted Cruz. Try to talk shit and be like. The voters are Lisa and the people are Homer. And then the Simpsons writers like shame. Ted Cruz on Twitter was like fuck you like you're able. No. But it was this thing of like, we hate you and says and then somewhat Ida Campbell this Twitter deep and someone tweeted like what's great about Twitter as you do get to see someone like Ted Cruz have their Simpson's dreams demolished. Like have the writers. Like, we hate, you know, so kind of like a little pleasure. Got about this wrapping up. Great. But you're also great comic, and you were on these degenerates. It's called on Netflix right now watcher right now also the front page before you forget. Seamy? If I come to your town. Are you going to be anywhere in November December I'm going to be in DC in December and November city doing trout house? The movie. Yeah, I'm that's Arlington. One. I'm going to be in the DC one. Okay. But yeah, probably Jimmy Johns and look at some art and then do fund shows, there's d c cuisine. They've good restaurants. Actually, Russia was not like, oh when you're see you gotta get barbecue says, but it's like, I don't need a jumbo slice of pizza. You know, not. New york. There's no reason. Maybe Chicago's a different kind of a deep dish. If you're ever there slices of pizza. That's the best on Twitter LIZA, traeger, glitter cheese literatures. Oh, I remember that sorry. I've been off Twitter for so long. I forgot. Instagram. Right now addicted to it to to running my life the internet. Yeah. I know it makes people angry or things that need to be. That's not use. So. I'm angry. No matter what I'm saying. It's definitely mcnew anger at life. Then you need to be. Yes. It's really my life. I should read a book. You know what? I mean. I'm just watching housewives and on Instagram hours the moment Healy about what I will be doing hours. Now, I'm gonna nap I went to bed late this early for me. But I didn't wanna leave my house. This is great. Thank you so much. Josh, welcome. Did want you to see my Simpson stuff? It was important to me. Yeah. All right, Lisa. Thank you. Good job half hours. We really good for you. Help people. Come see you. And I'm gonna do new stuff guys. I've been working hard overly. I'm not repeating jokes slot them off. I'm doing now live because I'm gonna miss them. But it's going to be a new finish with them. Yeah. 'cause I'm having a giant Halloween party. And then it'll be what you want. They should have a ceremony like if you're like wiccan at all burn like the bit list. And you're like I'm done with these. Yeah. I mean, if it comes up somewhere, I'll do it. But I just feel like if anyone comes purposely because they saw that thing, and I will not repeat why would ever pay too? I have a thing. Sometimes why do a bit? And then I'm like my head of this. The last time we're going do is bit specials coming out. Is it joy a good run? A good last one, but I been doing and there's like some Q and A N it. So it's just it's going to lose a bit of it. And so it's like we I've been kind of crushing it with the past couple of week. Go at. All right. Yeah. Why? Geico way. Maine. Bass. One. On this. Tree with. All right. That was the episode. Oh, fuck I raise the volume too, far the doctor up. The whole time. They gotta fuck it. Fifty. It's supposed to be a forty three. Oh, I had this zoo zoom h four ad if they wants to know what I use four in Sennheiser. Eight three five mics, by the way. I heard Sennheiser will not hurt tested with Bobby these fucking cordless mics, I want some who works at Sennheiser. The only problem was the only two hours without it. We laugh I need a little more from that guys made fucking push on that. But I want these cordless might think you have to do some real fucking damage with interesting podcasts. Nobody does better. Interesting pockets the Yankee game with Paul Morrissey, hiking with Rogan hiking with the Vaughan. Episode about hiking come on while on a hike who's doing like that? The Yankee game was about baseball. We wet all the fucking subway. And then went to the fucking Yankee game come on who's doing that. The fucking cleavage day. Podcasts that I've done with legion of skanks, but we walked around looking for fucker TAs on the first day of spring. Mr. this year. Dude. But if I had cordless mics Sennheiser get at me. Free advertisement. I will be offensive though. So I don't know. Do you want it or not? That was the episode. So you see what I'm talking about? What the argument? I mean, it gets try with these arguments. Sometimes forget what what what we actually discussed. But what is this festivals? These wrist bands. Forget about. I try with these things to with arguments in general forget about this one who's right and who's wrong or anything like that. Or we both had points. There's no right or wrong. I try to always get it. I try to maintain my cool. You know, if you can maintain your cool with these names. It's almost time for the singer being this. These might not even need a singer. Might be might have been in there long enough. Yes. Some of these are like nice. So you want a little burn on them. You don't think you do? But you do gotta really cook them all the way through before you get that bird. You put those on a stake? If you want over the top or. If people come for barbecue grill fucking three onions, you can actually fill up a pan with these those slowly sink down a little bit as as they as they cook. And they'll get less and less, but you could just make a whole bowl fuck of saute onions that people can throw a ride on burgers or sausages inside the bond. Just put a fuck foregone. Their let them go to town. It picks up everything or over a steak or is gonna try you know, gnocchi from blue apron, who's not a sponsor. Anyway, in these arguments, I've gotta remember to keep your cool. That's what I gotta do you go. Slowly, you think a couple moves ahead. Like Lisa when I was like at least sub sign what is your favorite character? I knew full well, she's gonna answer. Yes. And I waited for it. And then later was like written by all men, though. So. If men are an issue. I mean, they have to be doing something right because they came up with his great character that you love. So you would want a mortgage quality for the sake of diversity. Here's my line. Just so, you know, I'm all for diversity. I am all for diversity doesn't just mean. Log into a second. I'm all for diversity by not going to get it at the expense of quality. I I people it sounds so dumb. We're talking about comedy. But it's an art form you other Sates art form or or you don't and I do. And if it's an art form. The different rules apply. Then just entertainment. Okay. Part of what matters to our form. Is what the artist wants to put out is more important than fucking what you want. You know, if if arcade fire wants to come with the fuck in Ireland beat and that's what they're into. You can't say you can't do that. Because that's why we want from you. You get what they get. You can critique I don't like it. But never like you shouldn't be able to do this. This is wrong too. If you're an artist your quality of your product has to be. The most important thing. It it. It cannot be mortgaged for no matter. What with that? There are still different things. You might wanna try like, I don't want just to hacky jokes. You know? I'm sure I have some hacky jokes in my repertoire just wanna do those. So I wanna like grow and do different types of things. More honest off more revealing more interesting this hour is going to be all about Judaism. That's something I'm wanting to tackle. But I cannot do that at the expense of quality. I can't just give serious sermon about Judaism for an hour. That's not quality enough for me that would be giving up quality for the sake of of of of something else. Some other my qualities laughs for sure. I can give up some laughs. If it's something super interesting. But you know, you have to think about what you're line is think about it not just randomly go into it. So I do want diversity and not just say now not just of race or gender. That's how a diversity is to me. When LIZA that our story on this is not happening. It wasn't so much as she was a woman, but she was also telling a story of young person. You know, really a drunk really what her story was drunk wreck. And it was great. I loved it. But like always. Black man who went to prison doesn't have that story in them. And. Let's see who else. Big j doesn't have either those stories and Andrew w k has a separate. Experience. So I wanna diversity of experience always a deacon Byron Bowers where they're both black men have very different upbringings. You know? Oh, and Gary Owens, excuse me has more similar upbringing. Two. Girls, a black comics what I'm say, he does black comedy. He even though he's white. So as race is not as interesting to me as his experience, Jim Jefferies growing up in stralia beating fuck and. Oh, here's a better example Solomon Giorgio who's talked about seeing as mom fucking slice. Open. A cow's neck in the story. I mean, that's a way different life experience. Then all these Dc going to prison and awaiting a of my stories never grew up in a rural area like that fucking Africa Jesus. You understand? So my race doesn't really matter as much to me. As different experiences. But. Those are sometimes linked, you know, the black experience, it's not all them. But it is some of them. It's many of them and they're different than the white experience female experience, though, some overlap. You know, a female basketball player in the WNBA has way more similar experience to a male basketball player than they do to LIZA. You know? But generally, you'll have overlap type stuff upper middle class Jews have a lot of similar experiences. Not all the same. But a lot of similar ones. So that's another thing that goes into a class. So I want that diversity also along with diversity. I the way I'm just saying this because I feel like every once in a while just wanted on record. Along with the diversity of experience. I also want I'm here to entertain that's part of the art form is entertained. I think that's what makes actual art is entertaining while saying your piece. So like, it's not just enough to show an explosion, you showing explosion in a movie that's about something you entertain the crowd Tarantino's like one of the best. One of my favorite directors out for Hitchcock, make all these statements. You're not saying because he catches it inside the suspense filled story. Even visual artists painters. They make something beautiful, and then they say something through that. But exists on that beautiful level to even nothing about art. You can go up and look at the Mona Lisa go. That's pretty. That's exactly. Dahlie. If you go to the fuck in Dali museum in Saint Pete, you'll see like tons of just gorgeous stuff. And then when you listen on the puck in. Those walkie-talkie things they hand out the little guided towards things how you find out all this interesting stuff about and what are you trying to say about the world. But it's also a pretty picture. Where was I going with that one? So. What artists it's both entertainment. And and, you know, having your morals about you. Physically on the entertainment side, if you're watching at home, or if you're an audience at a comedy club, you do at some point want to see something, that's you. So white dudes have been a little spoiled and terms of that were almost everything is you you can more readily. You know, I should turn this off. Now, you can more readily. Relate to that. Experience of a white, dude. If you're bro, do, you know, you can more the and you have to take the top off gotta take top off. Because you gotta let the fuck in water come out of the fucking. Why don't I cur so much? You gotta let the water steam. About some of this water out from the onions. Okay. So if I'm a white dude, I get to see a show like friends. I'm like cool. They're all living the life. I can get into this. Because they'll look like me. So I can get into this. And I can relate to it on a level that some of them the race or gender might not be able to relate to. But I wouldn't understand that. Okay. So I want if I'm really like cure rating, a whole thing does not happen. Let's say what I want is for everyone to be a little represented. So even if you're at home, if you're a white, dude, you might get more of you. But I want everybody I can't get everybody. But I can do my best. I might not be able to find a native American female comic whose disabilities who's good. Maybe we'll find a comic whose native American female with disabilities. But if she's not good. She doesn't have a good story. And by the way, it's not just about like, we're about her. She's good. I we have great comics tried to do the show that just couldn't tell the story. So it's beyond just those things had to be good at this Pacific type of thing. So if I can't find what of quality that. I'm sorry. Native American disabled women, I can't represent you. So you'll have to relate to this on another level on a universal level the stories take sure you can get into that role human. So you can get into on that level. But I can't find you. So I'm not gonna do it. I can find women I can find black people. But sometimes it takes more work. And why is that? Because the numbers of people in stand up comedy. They're not equal. It's not fifty fifty. Women and men and ten percent black people and ninety. In eighteen percent, Latinos. It just it doesn't it's not Representative of the whole population. It's it's it's a lot of white dudes in in fucking stand up. So a little bit. But it has to be quality. What I want is to not even see it. I want to not see them and just fucking go for it. And then later go. Well, what do we have is? We have a good mixture. Here we have a good mixture of stuff I wanted just quality quality quality quality quality. And then how should the show run? I don't wanna have three dirty comics in a row. I'd rather have a dirty clean dirty clean, you know, instead of like three Dory's to cleans. I'm like I would mix it up, but they all have to be of quality. I'll never never mortgage out on purpose with that being said I have fallen to I have fallen prey to the pressures of diversity. And I have made that bookings before I have made mistakes. I'm not talking about people that I thought would be good reason to think would be good that ended up being bad. That's just a fucking. That's them fucking up. I mean going against my better judgment to book someone who I didn't think was going to be good only because of the pressures diversity. I fall into it a few times. And that's a failure. Every time I've done it. It's a failure. And honestly, even if they rose to the occasion fucking crush it if I'm only booking them because of their race or gender. That's a failure. But what we found is if we do some extra hard work and not just take the list that most fucking Hollywood people use which was like these are the accessible gays. These are the acceptable blacks that we've already decided, but go looking a little harder than you can find some great quality people case in point. I'll give you three. All these today is number one told my all time favorite story on this. Not happening. Mexican got on boots. Mexicans got on boots. He's a funny storyteller. And we found him in Houston, Texas. I think either an or Eric. Found him and Harris Eric Abrams. And when they brought them to me. It's like, yeah. This guy seems funny. And he was so funny that when we booked in the second year for Mitchell story, there wasn't even a a question of let me vet your story. It's like, oh, no, man. You're as good or better storyteller than I am. I don't have the right to tell you or give you any advice. If you're looking for I don't mind colleague to colleague offering it to you. But it is not my place to tell you anything because you're great. Another person miss, Pat, we've found her in Indianapolis, these aren't people that are around Hollywood. And she has a crazy life. You know? Yes, she's black woman, but her life was fucking. The most unique anybody we've met. Two kids fucking what fifteen. Damn these on you, look great. Just a read a mom in Delaware. We found her and she told a great story this year on this is not happening. We talked before I was done without show. So I'll take credit for. Not as much credit as she should take. So anyway, if you look Harvard his people, you can find them, Sean Flannery from Chicago, hold a great great story. They're out there, the look, although he's a white, dude. But it's still interesting. You can find quality everywhere. You have to look hard. You can find that diversity everywhere you look hard. But if you can't find it even after you've looked hard you have to look inside yourself and say did I do the best. I could to find it. The answer's yes, you can live with yourself, and people might protest you might get angry. But you make your moral compass that moral compass says you did it right? Then you did it right. Can you live with yourself? Doesn't matter. What else is out there? And I can't live with myself when I make an intentionally bad decision for the sake of diversity. Okay. So with that in mind, you know, I hate that. Fuck it hack on CBS talking steel. She just repurposes other people's bits Karpal Singh was the same as lips thinking. You know, it was you just took that from Jimmy Fallon. I heard about him doing that shit before he came to America from all the British people. And then he came to America just did the same shit. He's garbage. He's garbage hack thief. Only show I turned down. They were trying to get me to do late night to promote my special double negative, which should all. Please watch on Netflix right now. They're like how about Gordon, and I was like, no, I'm more looking at like, Kobe, Conan and and. They are Conan and Fallon. And I don't know, you know, the Colbert people are sort of interested in seeing you, and I was like no, I don't really want to. And they're like, what's a lot more people watching mckee's hack like, yeah. It's a lot of people watching, you know, you're not listening to me is a hack like. Yeah. But so many people Mike, you're not listening to me. I don't wanna be associated with him. He's a hack. I'm not interested in doing a hack show. Just for the more of us. Thank you. But no, thank you Conan's. Always been cool Conan's always been the coolest and I grew up on him. I'm doing Conan. I just realized right now, I gotta call JP do Conan. Before he's gone. I circle full circle Conan O'Brien writer on the Simpsons wrote the. Monorail episode. I love a good full circle. It's almost they take awhile. You can't rush them. Also, full circle you care about bookings. So with that in mind. Yeah. Sure, there's diversity you can get, but you can't give up quality. And a lot of times. What I see is people from a group that feels like marginalized doesn't really care about quality the people protesting shows stuff like that. They're not even they don't even give us shit about quality. Someone wrote a blog that I mentioned that probably I think I mentioned in this interview. About this not happening. This said you had no females. And then Sam say from my manager leases manager wrote to this. I can't because I'm a man, right? So I have to shut up certain moments. She wrote said we had seven women. Did I already said this? And there were like well still not enough. Like, why don't you fucking spent? She goes, why don't you spend your time not shitting on on the lack of diversity but fucking promoting miss. Pat was a fucking wonderful amazing talent that we do have use your fucking. Journalists powers for good to promote women instead of shitting on things that don't have enough women anyway. By the way, Sam manager not because she's a woman. I don't see her fuck in gender without shit. What I see is that she is one of the few people in this industry who gets me. She's a weirdo in the same way. I'm a weirdo, and it's nice to have a friend. I can talk to. But that's not it. She gets me. She understands my fucking quirks. And she works around them. She's good at what she does. A specially for me. She's really good at what she does nothing to do with her fucking gender. If you get enough of that where you don't even see them. You'll get a diversity you'll get just quality people. The problem is when you wanna promote someone of your own gender or race. This is what I see. Maybe this is what you heard in this episode. It's sort of a natural progression. From that from a place of I wanna promote females. The natural progression. Takes you to. Fuck men. And then that's a problem because we're all comics, we're all working, very hard. And if a comedian can't works really hard in the script, any comedian who writes something and then gets told because of your race or gender. I will not give you a chance. Well, that's wrong. That's not should I get behind. That's wrong. What I don't mind if saying like, I wanna hire chip that cool. Great go for you wanna do that fucking go forward. That's fine. It's not coolest I refuse to hire this or fuck that because other people have their gender had it easy. You're this or that. No. Because then you're not treating them as an individual as a hardworking performer, you know, like that guy fucking who suing Harvard, some Asian guys I worked really hard, and you cannot let me in because you already had too many other Asians. I'm just me and I worked really hard. I'm not white comics. I'm just Ari. I didn't talk in a living in this business. Ten years in nothing was handed to me. I had my insurance paid for my car insurance by my parents who fucking my immigrant father who made away from self. But I'm not like fuck you. You had it easy. None of that. None of that. I worked hard. I worked on my act. I got better until people start going. I enjoy what you're putting out and they related to it. There aren't twelve people in this industry. There's thousands. If you have people that like you for what you do fucking great. You know, there's some shitty people that I think, you know, our shitty that make a living. But you know, what they have fans. That's okay. I'm not gonna say that name of thinking about. That's okay. If they got fans if that's what they're they're into. You know, but someone's into them. Anyway, that's my piece you can promote anybody, but don't just promote anyone because of their race or gender because that's just racism, and I'm not going to get behind it. You know, Doug Smith told a great story this year on those having I worked with them hard. Louis. Cats also told a great story this year on those not happening. In addition to just a read like I mentioned before. But Doug Smith told about this fucking great. Look it up. Look it up. I don't wanna ruin it. But it was great over on about breaking up rape. Sing of rape on a subway platform, breaking it up, and it was great, man. It was funny. He was Geraldo without bragging. I'll brag about him because it was fucking. It was a fucking hero. But he just did it wasn't trying to like push himself as great guy. Just he just did something instinctively stinks. Really? I don't know. Even though I don't know the difference. Of those words, I'm still smarter than burdened, Tom. Give me a break. Everyone knows that. Yeah. I don't wanna get to the plate point. I don't want anyone else. Get the point. We're sorry, Doug. But because you are have this color and this type of genitalia. I don't wanna hear that story. That's wrong. That's wrong on this level on the level that we as purveyors of the art form as people who look at comedy would be missing out on something. Really nice. We'll be missing out on something. Really great. And I don't want to get to that level. But in addition Doug Smith, we will also get a read. Understand that further promote other types as well. Not at the expense of anyone as best. I can. So I'm trying always to get a mixture. But if it's like three person show, you have no choice. Does a six person show. You're crazy. If you try to follow it on the lines of has three this three that and one of these. That's that's nuts. One year might be. I mean, we had it is not happening storytelling showing in in Edinburgh. This year to white chicks a black, dude. And someone's like, oh, you going Harford averse like what? No last episode. We have just three do. It's just like what are you got to worry about every single one has to fit in this type? He just get quality people. You see whatever happens. And if you find yourself never booking anyone of diversity, then like look a little harder. But if you do then, it's fine. Then don't worry people say so anyway. Yeah. With this happening. We had you know, forty stories year to book. So of course, we have more options to book different types of people. And we did a great job. We did a fucking great job clue show and stand up comedy history. Continues to be. Just with a slightly different name. But that's shit. That's online that's still talking not happening. You should all watch those stories. They all worked really hard and their stories. Even though I'm the host. I've walked went over a lot of those people stories with them. I worked with them really hard. I you should all watch stories the big ones on this year. Louis cats Smith like I mentioned, just a read. You know, it's great. It's great, man. Talking about fucking mom jokes for your whole career and then being able Delvin heroin. I mean, there's tons. So I haven't seen them all I just know some of them anyway. So that's the episode, and that's a little bit more still not my complete feelings on the issue of diversity. That's just what I could cover in fuck in twenty minutes. Still very. But that's a little bit more of like now, you are closer to understanding what I think all the time. But no matter what the quality is is. Not Sacramento sacrosanct Sakr cremony. I'm gonna fuck. Pause sacrosant. That's the word sacrosanct. Especially a principal place, a routine regarded as to important or valuable to be interfered with. Since the individual's right to work has been upheld a sacrosanct. Yeah. Quality is sacrosanct. You gotta get the fucking best possible scenario. So no, I don't think hiring. Any woman is is more important than fucking. Getting people of quality. Not not for my not from what I do. Which is stand up comedy. You know in comedy in general. So no. But quite often, you can have many people that are all of quality. And then once you have that then sure fucking sprinkle little this little of that in. Quality ingredients. You know what? I mean. Don't get a fucking rancid rotten apple because it calls for some fruit. When a fucking fresh payers right there. That's actually pretty good analogy. All right. You guys. That's the episode. Thank you very much tuning and watch the degenerates right now on Netflix. Oh, it's it's out. Now, it's been out for fifty one minutes. I think I might go work out again, I slept rocking like ten hours last night. Yeah. Maybe uncle work at another hour really fucking break. Those guys spirit when they wake up three Mielke. And. Yeah. And if you really want to go back and watch these tooth away to the Simpsons go back and watch it because it really was at the time subversive, it was you gotta go. You gotta go on my website and watch this fucking video that I'll post it really wants to verse all it was subverting. What was what was the sitcom? And it was now we ain't gonna be that any more. And now when I was caught up, you know, modern family they have in fighting. They have crazy happening all the families had that now in in. It's not just found the guy that gets accused of fucking taking it it was it's fucking all those shows all those families sitcoms. They're all different now, they can be this throats because before that it was the Brady bunch. When it was all lovey dovey. And the Simpsons was like, nah, we got problems. It was a great show. So let's forget just like I decided to got inspiration from my special double negative by going back in and listening to the smashing pumpkins that I did love instead of hating them for what they become. And then getting the idea like, oh, yeah. Double album. He's melancholy finit sadness was did anybody. Nobody noticed put little fuck in in the intros to double negative. I put little like Easter eggs of hints at the inspiration of melancholy, infinite sadness there were in there. That's a freeze frame. I think behind the the subway window forget where else. Was I going to say? Smashing pumpkins. Peration? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go back and watch don't focus on the negative focus on the positive go back and watch Simpsons seasons to eight and really see something. Just amazing just of the highest highest quality. Those shows. I don't know what it was the writers time of the place. Whatever it was. But they fucking nailed it. They nailed it. So go back and appreciate something that's been just fucking nailed. Yep. Yeah. Again. Quick dates tour. Reykjavik November sixteenth starts. Brussels amsterdam. Else we go. Doubling going on sale. The thirty first Brussels Amsterdam, Stockholm stop-and-go, Norway, Berlin, Copenhagen Oslo Zoric. Sacramento and Denver why Sacramento not up here. It's jerry. It should be up here. Ready? We've got two months away come on trying to outta show in Oakland. We'll see. Other December thirtieth or November eighth? Job. That's the episode. Thank you labor, actually traeger coming in and always being open, and honest and honestly guys on stage. Fuck in fareless our first tank four LIZA Marsh fair saying so long for skipping tech number three forty the Simpsons traeger. I'm ours. You're saying over and out. How is in the best wrap up way to wrap up? It wasn't bad. It wasn't that. Good by everybody. Thank you watch. Join again goodbye, wait next week. I'll have big Jay. And I have Sam Royal on hair coming to how do I get them both in same real quick because it's got to promote this symbol. I'll just tell you right now. Sam real special is on comedy central dot com. Ad free right now till the end of November. So fucking watch that. Dot com slash Sam essay am at our. Goodbye. I was born to make you happy. I think you're just my style. 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