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"andrew benson" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Attache Bradley lord had got the hand, got the chance to slap a gagging order on him. And so he'd say something. And I think basically going to going to Helmut mark out is route one when you need a controversial quote, and it's something that the Austrian media do, and then the other, the other media, pick up those quotes. Obviously it gets fed through the German and his Austrian accent probably confuses a few syllables, and it comes out even more fiery than it was intended, because very often when something is translated, some of the nuance gets lost, doesn't it? So it's a difficult thing in the media landscape at the moment where so much news is quite driven, and it's the actual words rather than the sense in which it's spoken. But I suppose we're digressing now because as F one media, we have to keep the news machine running 24/7 and Grand Prix is only happen every few weeks or every week if it's a triple header. Or you can look at what's published in other magazines. On this month, on the cover of GP racing this month, we contemplate Lewis Hamilton and not just the fascinating pink ensemble he wore for the cover shoot of a recent issue of Vanity Fair. He kind of looked like the second coming of Don Johnson in Miami Vice and that high waisted short sleeve garb. Fantastic only Lewis can carry that off. But it was a very interesting interview and months and months ago as it turned out while the interview for this Vanity Fair piece were happening. I approached our regular correspondent Andrew Benson and said, is it too early to drop several thousand metric gallons of cold water on the theory that Lewis is a spent force and about to retire? At the time, he said, well, actually, it's kind of a little bit tricky to work out because there's mixed messages coming from the, from the Hamilton camp, but at the same time, the narrative that he's being absolutely tonked by George Russell is wrong. And this is around the time of the Miami Grand Prix we were having this conversation right about the time when the tabloid press were at fever pitch saying Lewis had it, he should cash in his P 45 now and take his private plane off somewhere and make way for someone else. So finally, am I to persuade Andrew that he had got enough data to write this analysis of where Lewis Hamilton is now. And he's come up with what not to bang my own drummers, the man who commissioned him to write it, but I thought it really, really good story. Has taken apart Lewis season and analyzed the early season wobble that's related to last season's controversy. It's deconstructed the whole business of whether he's firing an oil cylinders, clearly he is. And also, we look at how Mercedes has now come to rely on his unique skill set to restore them to the front of the grid because this is a team which is struggling with its car and not only that. They are finding that they've lost correlation with all their tools. So what's now needed is a driver with Lewis's experience and speed to be able to feed back to them and say, no, this is working. That's not working. Let's try this. Let's do that. This is the way forward. And they're doing things like putting a floor on the car, which hasn't been tested in the wind tunnel, but relies on his backside to sign it off. And I think that is quite fascinating. I wouldn't normally read a sentence there, but I love that the point where Andrew talks about Lewis is a man whose worldview is one of perpetual struggle. It's what he feeds off and it's what motivates him. And I think that's so true. And he, in fact, the opportunity to work with him and I mean, he will happily talk about what motivates him in life and how as a child. He failed to face a lot of obstacles, you know, being bullied at school and then some of the racism that he faced in cartoon and the aftermath of Abu Dhabi and then Lewis going away taking that winter after coming off social media, which of course of itself then raised lots of questions. Why has he come off social media? Why is he not giving us a narrative? What does he thinking? Is he going to retire all that kind of stuff? Then coming back only to discover that Mercedes Benz have a car that's uncompetitive. And I've got some fundamental problems. But actually, rather, he's not a quitter. You know, he's a fighter. He likes to come back and fight. And the team know the strengths that he has on that front. And you have to say, you know, they've done an admirable job, considering where they were at the beginning of the year. Operationally, they're kind of their execution at race weekends is better than Ferrari. And only the other day I was somebody who was asking me about Red Bull and the championship. And I said, actually, the thing that's fascinating to me is what happens for a second place in the constructors because if Ferrari continued to trip up and God forbid, have any more reliability issues, et cetera, I think George Russell and Lewis Hamilton will enjoy vanquishing them and so there's actually a huge motivation there and total, as I said earlier on, massively committed individual, and he knows it and Lewis has a fellow fighter. I think the George Russell comparison is really interesting. I was very struck by the performance differential. You know, Lewis had qualifying George not by a huge huge huge amount in terms of race and the number of races that I qualified, but the margin, you know, set 57,000th of a second on average. I mean, that's not too tense. 57,000 of a second is basically little to choose between them. It's incredibly impressive in terms of both Lewis and George because Andre says in the article, you know, George is in the first flush of being with CNN Mercedes and the enjoyment that he's getting out of that. You know, a bad Mercedes is a lot better than a good Williams. So he's enjoying every element of it. But I think it's a really interesting piece. I think the whole point about the discussion around Lewis is for me also
"andrew benson" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Coming through and also the long run pace as well, which is always the more interesting for some people Charles Leclerc. Once again, leading the way in that Ferrari. With a one minute 30.074 but completing much fewer laps than many of his competitors only 15 laps completed today because of clattering, the wall and colliding with his front left wheel on the inside turn, which would bend or break a steering arm track rods. Max Verstappen coming in seconds on a one minute 32 one four. Again, about a tenth and a half behind. Carlos Sainz brings his Ferrari into third and Sergio Pérez fourth Lewis Hamilton the first of two Mercedes and 5th and 6th Lewis followed by George Russell, McLaren, hopefully Boyd in 7th place with Lando Norris Esteban ocon's Alpine in 8th place followed by Valtteri Bottas slipping down in the afternoon times 9th and in the tenth position UK sonoda. After multiple attacks over the last two weeks, Yemen's Houthi rebels group attacking an Aramco storage facility, only a few kilometers from the site of the Jeddah circuit, no doubt doing it on a day when they knew the eyes of the world and the sports media would be on Formula One. The attack happening in free practice one, the sky thick, with dark black smoke, drivers talking over the radio of the smell of oil, Max Verstappen, saying I can smell something burning, is it my car? A lot to talk about today, Hayden Cobb, also sport dot com's editor. Hayden, just run us through the timeline of events if you would today. It was approximately about ten miles away from the track Aramco oil facility. It's now been confirmed as a missile attack and ensure it's an ongoing and long-standing dispute and a very aggressive tactics from both sides between Talia and Yemen. But obviously F one being in the prime spotlight, this is clearly taken as a site tactic for to grow attention to this and F one choosing to race in Saudi Arabia. It was always going to be at risk at something like this, potentially happening, discussions were had between F one and FP two regarding what has happened. They're getting the facts correct, seeing what was potentially happening. And obviously there was a lot of concern in the paddock. Not only from the drivers, but everyone involved because anything in the series like that, given what we've seen not only in that part of the world, but also most recently in Ukraine is particularly scary. The Saudi security officials spoke with Formula One bosses, team principles, drivers, Stefano del micali, the CEO and the FIA president. And in short, they delayed FP two by 15 minutes just to make sure everyone was aware of the facts and have a discussion to make sure they're okay to continue. And then FBE two by and large runners as planned. But 50 minutes later, but we wouldn't have believed that the events just down the road had taken place, but yes, it came back into discussion obviously at the end of FP two and that's why we had a bit of an unusual end to the day. Let's say. So we have the two practice sessions, the F two drivers weren't told. So while this conversation was going on in Formula One, talking to the team bosses and the drivers, after FP two, on a Friday, we're now going to get to speak to another round of drivers and press conferences and media interviews where the TV, but also the written written media get to talk to the drivers and the team bosses. What happened next today? Yes, so an unusual tactic requested by the FIA was for all teams not to do any media TV written or otherwise post FP two because obviously the topic of point was going to be about the attack that they all facility and whether they'd want to race for the rest of this weekend and where they felt safe. Then happened, which in the forms of time obviously makes a bit more sense with the time frame, was there was another meeting involving team principles, drivers, F one, officials and FIO officials with the Saudi security officials and senior figures. To basically give more detail and give more information on the ongoing situation. And in short, basically say that the track itself is the safest place to be in Saudi Arabia. On that one, that's not my assessment. To be fair, there is an understandable approach given the high level security round that event regardless of what's happening around the world. And indeed, the setup that the Saudi Arabian would have had to follow and had to adhere to ensure that the race would go ahead. So in that sense, it was very much a case of, if you can't be safe at the track, you're not going to be safe anywhere. Both Christian Horner and total wolf speaking very briefly after the meeting said that all team principles were in unison in their decision that they want to keep racing and we're comfortable with continuing racing this weekend. We get to hit properly here for many of the drivers. They're having their drivers briefing, which they have every Friday night after practice. Normally, to go over things like yellow flags and the more common issues that come up after practice, but obviously that will be the central focus and we'll hopefully find out very soon what the drive is sort of think about the situation. But at the moment, we understand that all drivers will be carrying on for this weekend as all the teams are. From Formula One, they say this and I quote F one has been in close contact with the relevant authorities, following the situation. The situation. The authorities have confirmed that the event can continue as planned and we will remain in close contact with them and all the teams and closely monitor the situation. A range of opinions on this, I would say, the telegraph sports Twitter account saying that Formula One stands accused of literally playing with fire, as it vows to race on in Saudi Arabia of course pointing out that Saudi Aramco, otherwise known as Aramco, that company that you see their logos plastered all over, Formula One, any of the race venues they go to, let alone being the home race would be a large decision to cancel it. It's not like we didn't know what Formula One was going into. People like Adam hay Nichols, the metro F one columnist being quite punchy. Saying that not sure some security guys and soldiers with rifles will be able to protect a circuit from missile assault. Our colleague Andrew Benson from BBC.
"andrew benson" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Let's talk about Fernando Alonso next because it was great day for him, his first podium since 2014 Qatar's cheering, unfortunately, you can't see that because of course there's any podcast, but he's looking very, very happy. I'm going to start with you because you just look so excited about this. Well, as you well know, one of GP racing's contributors. One of our great contributors is Andrew Benson, the BBC sports chief Formula One writer and also chief Fernando Alonso, fanboy. Has anyone checked in on that? Well, he was keeping it together in the Christian Horner press conference. He was there, you know, he wasn't, you know, he hadn't painted his face and, you know, popping the champagne cooks, but I imagine he was very excited. And yeah, you know, great, great race for Fernando and his first podium finish since I tasio nuvolari was a boy. Oh, no, sorry. Hungary 2014, very different circumstances. But what a great and very ruthless drive just his opening few corners. That was literally the way he defended his position, certainly against max, and then went around the outside of Pierre gasly to claim what was then second place. Around turn two, just amazing, and put me in mind of no less an eminence than Charlton Heston when he'd said that they would pry his rifle out of my cold, dead hands. You know, he was not going to be parted from that podium position. It was very remarkable. I spoke to some of the Alpine team after the race and they said that they were literally like shaking with anxiety over whether those ties would hold out. What did you think? Yeah, I can imagine. No, it was a fantastic drive is called a set of the brilliant first lap. And that really set him up well. And yeah, I mean, the alpena this weekend has just been so hooked up. And even throughout qualifiers, I think cracky, where's this pace come from? And they've been in a really good groove and yeah, Fernando, I think just, okay, yeah, the penalties helps them a little bit move up the grid, but he just took full advantage of it. And I really did wonder like, okay, oh, I'll think you're gonna be able to keep pace with like say the edit McLaren's, the Ferraris Norris and science behind, but then yeah along so what I think like a 9 second buffer or something you built up to Norris quite early on. So it was quite clear that he was going to top that midfield fight, and it was really a question of would Perez or Bottas be able to be able to catch it. And boss has obviously had his puncture otherwise, yeah, he probably would have got that place. And then I think the deciding moment though was when Red Bull switched Perez to a two stop strategy in Paris claim over the radio immediately after he stopped and when I think he made a mistake here like what are you doing? And his engineer told him, no, no, don't worry, they're going to struggle towards the end. And obviously, he did take huge chunks of time out and without the VAC yet. I think I might have been able to get there. But no, I think Fernando is fantastic. It was nice hearing over the radio as well. Saying I'll tell Esteban and east to defend like a lion. From Hungary when it was Alonso who defended to protect aachen from Hamilton, say he could win the race, and yeah, it was a really cool moment. I think that Fernando, yeah, okay, he's been an I'll admit as well. When he announced he's coming back to F one, and I was like, why? You're not going to be world champion without being. You said McLaren to those difficult years. Well, if I'm not winning, I'm not enjoying it. Why? But he has come back and he's really enjoyed himself and now he's back on the podium. And the competitive hunger of him is just absolutely phenomenal. So now I really, really good drive. Despite sep check off to the rice and obviously calm down a little bit and he said, no, I do understand why they did it and he said that it would have been risky going for the one stop because we stopped so early. Yeah, we could have been in a similar situation with a tire failure. And he kept all of it off by saying, but if anyone was going to deny me of podium, I'm really glad it's Fernando. He deserves it. And I thought that's a really nice touch. That is a nice touch. That's very nice touch. What about Esteban O'Connor as well? Because of course he came home 5th, I think it was, and it's a solid day for the team as a whole. Oh, hugely, because Alpine alpha towery went into this weekend tied on points and that battle for 5th place, which is obviously, I mean, you might think, well, who cares about finishing 5th? But the stakes involved for the constructor championship in the prize money involved is massive. And even like talking to team members, I won't say from which of those teams. But I was talking to one of them on Friday. And they were so saying like the bonus money they said between us finishing 5th and 6th is actually like it's a decent amount where it's like, I really want us to finish 5th. So everyone's invested. But yeah, I mean, and again, that I think is why it kind of compounded things for poor API gazley and for the authority team because they came away empty handed from a weekend where they had a car starting on the front row and Yuki had been pretty quick. And then Alpine much as they did in Hungary, they seized the moments quite one of our esteemed colleagues, and managed to maximize the opportunity that was given to them and came away with a hall of 25 points, which is massive. So it does kind of make you think, okay, is that battle now over? Like, can alpha tower fight back with two races to go, it's gonna be really tough because we've seen alpha target sort of making roads and making roads and recently it was like, okay, well they are the quicker team. It's a master of time until they do get in front and pull ahead. And Alpine to put a complete stop to that now. And a lot of that is down to Fernando Alonso rolling back the years with a brilliant display. And I've also another thing without wishing to ramble on too much longer. He's had fun this weekend. I said after qualifying that apparently he told the engineers, he was like, can you just fill it up with much fuel as you can? Let me just drive it all night. I'll drive that track all night. You really, really enjoyed himself, so yeah, really cool story. I really loved ocon's composure. Having been told, you have to do everything you can to stop Perez getting by you. Elbows out was the fries. And then, of course, Paris just drives by him under DRS, and he must have just kind of thought, well, you know, not going to be able to seize my moment here, am I? There's no moment to be seized. But then rather than capitulating a fought back all the way through to just beautiful and ultimately it wasn't to be. But the fact that he tried it, I kinda thought it good on you, because that is basically real racer material. So on passes, you try and pass them back. You don't just sort of sit there and go, oh well, that's it. So yeah. Thoroughly dependable. A very well done to Alpine to both drivers, as he said espan as well putting on a good show in doom. Doing what he could to support his teammate. I was very impressed with that performance this weekend and happy to see. See the progress they've made. Of course, as we've touched on already after, on the other hand, not a good day so much. What do you think that means for the battle between them to in the constructors? Because we've only got two races left. And it's all swings around about in the season. But what do you reckon for the remaining two loop? Honestly I think it's over. I think barring like a crazy racing Jeddah, which looking at that track layout may be possible, I think it's such a big point swing that yeah, it's gonna take something very big valve for tariffs to be able to recover that gap. So yeah, I mean, it's a bit of a shame. It's nice when we sort of go into the final stages of the season and there's sort of like tied on points or neck and neck to clean Abu Dhabi. But I just think this has been such a knockout blow by.
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"andrew benson" Discussed on Shift+F1
"It just seems so risky to me. That your wedded to this. Three hour window was already gotten narrower because they're concerned about like tv primetime starting times for the international audience And then you have no real fallback if conditions are too bad to raise during that three hour window. That's the part that bugs me because then it's like no it wasn't it wasn't just bad weather. Is that planning. yeah well. hopefully things are better zandvoort. That's coming up next weekend. There's some calendar changes coming up though that next three or locked zandvoort monza and so cheesy but turkey has moved one league later to october tenth. The austin the us grand prix is staying put for now although rob you just pointed out that the eu has imposed travel restrictions on the united states. Where austin. Texas is so that may pose a problem. mexico and brazil also removing one week later to november seventh and fourteenth respectively and the november twenty one slot vacated by japan is yet to be filled although andrew benson with the bbc says that qatar is all but confirmed The rest of the season stays the same with saudi arabia. On december fifth and abu dhabi. Closing things out on december twelfth in other confirmations red bull has signed sergio perez for twenty twenty two cool. I hope album guesses seat somewhere. I mean he's crushing it on alex. Yeah we also got a reconfirmation. That fernando alonzo will be racing for alpine in two thousand twenty two. He signed a two year deal a year ago. So i don't know what's up of this rob found something. No i didn't find much about that It seem like. I think though i might have been an option type situation of it wasn't working out. But yeah they they confirmed that alonzo will be there driver for twenty two but no. It's just last week. We talked about the fact that there's something weird about alpine's engine program the fact they let their engine director Go and didn't appear to replace them. di directly over race fans also noticed that alp here not answering any questions about like who is replacing him or even like you said. His responsibilities have been divided. They're not even discussing organizationally. How their engine program is working and how those responsibilities reporting into the greater team So you know. It's it's good news for alpine in terms of Decent summer and You know the good-looking lineup For twenty two. But it just feels like there's something feels like it is felt. Everson cyril was thrown overboard. Like out of the blue. It's felt like something's up with that program And then the fact that on the eve of a new engine debut You've got this uncertainty. It'd just some feels off about this. Well one thing is for certain as we head into the next race. Zan board lewis. Hamilton is still on top of the drivers championship. He has two hundred and two point five points. Yup they're gonna make me do this every week from now on max verstappen in second with one hundred ninety nine and a half points landon. Norris is in third with one hundred and thirteen voucher. Protests has one hundred eight. Sergio perez says one hundred and four in fifth place carla signs in six with Eighty three and a half charlotte clare has any to january. Cargo has fifty six pierre. Gase fifty four estimate. Oh content with forty two. Fernando alonzo has thirty eight sebastian. At thirty five yuki sonoda inland stroll both have eighteen points in thirteenth place. George russell and fifteenth has thirteen points nicholas latifi in sixteenth has seven points can racking and has to antonio juvenile has one and mix schumacher and nikita. Pin have zero in constructors standings. We have mercedes on top with three hundred and ten point. Five red bull is in second place with three hundred and three point. Five mclaren has one hundred sixty. Nine ferrari has one hundred and sixty five point five. Alpine is in fifth place with eighty points. Alpha tower has seventy two aston. Martin has fifty-three williams has twenty points. Alfa romeo has three and genasense team have zero. Things will change rob at zan heart. So we're finally doing this. Yes so zandvoort old circuit new returnee to ask one. Zandvoort is a really interesting location. It was sort of a plan circuit built in nineteen thirty nine but was delayed. Obviously until after the war And had roughly the same layout from forty-six through Almost made it see nineteen ninety and it was this really dramatic and Gorgeous location in the dunes along the north sea on the western coast of north holland. So basically got on the eastern coast. There you've got amsterdam On the on the western coast. You have sanford If you look at footage of the old zandvoort racetrack. Or if you watch Recreations of the circuit in various sims. Like there's a video of max stop Driving it in a in a version of the track that was done for a set of corsa really cool circuit Really dramatic looking at us. The natural slopes of the dunes to create a series of Banked corners and along this kind of really fast almost undulating race track as it went over the dunes The flip side of that was the basically were no runoffs. Even by old f. one standards this is a dicey looking circuit And the encroaching slopes of the dunes of meant that any sort of going wide or or running off had a good chance at Sort of launching a car were flipping it And there's some pretty horrific incidents as with any circuit. In this era zander was was host to truly ghastly Incident involving roger williamson. Whose car did get flipped and caught fire and in the completely sub-standard safety You know.