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#242: Anti-Racism Resources, and Repost of #113: How to Cultivate Radical Body Love with Sonya Renee Taylor

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#242: Anti-Racism Resources, and Repost of #113: How to Cultivate Radical Body Love with Sonya Renee Taylor

"Welcome to food, sake the podcast about intuitive eating health, every size, body, liberation, and taking down Diet, culture. I'm your host Chris Harrison and an anti diet registered. Dietitian certified intuitive eating counselor at author of the Book Anti Diet. Join me here every week as I talked with fellow anti diet advocates about their journeys toward peace with food in their bodies. And by the way on this show, we bleep out diet culture stuff like wait and calorie numbers, but we don't censor swear words or other adult language, so listener discretion is advised. Uh. Hebert welcome to food sake I. AM Christy Harrison and I'm recording this on June second of twenty twenty, when there is a revolution happening for racial justice, and I'm so here for it because I believe that black lives matter and I support justice for George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and RB. And Tony mcdade and all the other black people who've had their lives taken from them over the years through the racist actions of police and vigilantes, and this racist murder has to stop so honor of the movement to defend black lives, and also in recognition of the fact that the Anti Diet Movement must also be an anti-racist movement because. Is Built on a foundation of racism as you heard in the episode with Sabrina strings that I reposted last week. This week. I wanted to re post another. With a brilliant black thinker and writer who speaks to some of the racial justice issues that are connected to this anti at work. This interviews from three years ago in July of twenty seven team, and it's with amazing writer and body Liberation Activists Sonya, Renee Taylor. Sonia has been instrumental in helping make the eating disorders and body positivity space, more aware of racism at its intersections with Diet Culture and eating disorders for a long time. She's been doing this work for many years I. I heard of her and. And saw her in two thousand fifteen when she was presenting at eating. Disorders Conference and so I want to honor her contribution to this work and to this field and make sure that you all go check out her work. Her website is Sonya. Renee Taylor Dot. com and she has a great book called. The body is not an apology that I. highly recommend reading as well. So in this interview that we did three years ago, we discussed why we need more radical body love in the world how to deal with weight gain and weight stigma while learning intuitive eating, what means stream body positivity get so wrong why understanding oppression and racism and intersecting identities is key to creating a world that's truly body positive and truly liberated how to navigate diet culture as a body acceptance activists how to begin to untangle internalized oppression, and so much more. It's a great conversation. I cannot wait to share it with you in just. Just a moment I'm not going to be answering listener question this week because I want to use this time to share some resources for folks who like me are still learning about anti-racism and working to do better, and that's not everyone listening. There are some folks here who are already so far into the anti-racist work and don't need these resources and are leading the way and I wanna thank you for doing that work. Especially, my black listeners and other listeners of color who've been on the front lines of this antiracism work for so long. So, thank you for your work. And to all my black listeners I wanNA send you empathy and compassion and support for what you're going through in this difficult time and descend solidarity, and to say that black lives matter and I'm with you in whatever way I can be. And for those of you, listening who have the unearned social privilege that comes with being white or white passing in this racist culture I wanNA. Call on you to start and or continue engaging in a practice of anti-racism in whatever way you can, because we truly cannot work for body liberation if we're not working for antiracism and I think on a Taylor does such a great job of explaining that her notion of radical body positivity that you'll hear about in a moment I am by. No means an expert on anti-racism as As I'm sure you can imagine right. I'm someone with white privilege. For the last several years I have been making a conscious effort to learn about anti-racism and to unlearn the racist culture that we're all born into, but you know I realized recently with this latest uprising that my anti-racist efforts had become a little passive had become not as active as I would like them to be and I'll talk more about that in the interview airing next week with Mony Melton because I, think she has some really important perspectives on that. Also I'm a white person with a lifetime of being steeped in this racist culture as so many of us are so I'll probably always be on learning, but I'm committed to making the effort and to listening to and learning from people who know way more about this stuff than I do. So from a perspective of someone who's very much still learning, I wanted to share a few resources that I've found helpful in my anti-racism education. I'm giving some sort of more general racism resources. Because as I'm recording this I don't know where the revolution will be. By the time you hear this episode I don't know what's going to be needed on the grounds. I wanted to just give you a few places to start people. People to follow to learn more get more information on social media and all that stuff so i. a couple of books that I love so you WanNa talk about race bypassed food site gassed Joma Aluko. It's a wonderful starting point a wonderful jumping off point if you are new to antiracism work and she even says like that's what she recommends it for. She wants to be a first step for people, not an end point. an anti-racist by Abram ex. Candy is also a wonderful book and he also says like. Stop reading. My Book. Take that as a starting point and go from there and take use it to take action. Just think that the reading reading of the book is the only action me and white supremacy is a great book by Layla F- Saad. That is a little bit more of an active workbook type book. That's going to ask you to do actions along the way, and by the way all of these authors are great people to follow on social media as well so we're GONNA put links to their social media, and the show notes for this episode may recommend going and following them on twitter and instagram all the places. And then there are some other folks that I recommend checking out who have online courses and other good online resources to check out. I is Rachel cargo. She's at Rachel. Cargo on instagram will put a link to that in the show notes. She has an awesome ongoing. anti-racism chorus called the great unlearn, and you can find her online at Rachel cargo. Dot Com cargo. Is C. A. R., G. L. E. Rachel is just felt the usual the common way. Andrea Rene Johnson is also a great writer and educator to follow on social media and to learn from her courses. She has a new course called whole self liberation. That's really great for anyone who runs any kind of business, but especially coaching businesses, Dietitians, therapists people who want to help create a liberated world, and yet also are working within this unfortunate system of capitalism like how to build a business and survive doing this work while also honoring people's needs and helping create a more liberated world. You can find her at Andrea Rene. Rene J on Instagram and at Andrea Rene Dot Com, and it's just Andrea the usual way, and then rene is R. A. N.. A. E. will put a link to that in the show notes to to her website. Monique Melton is another good anti-racism educator to follow on social media and take classes from has classes on her website at Monique Melton Dot Com, and I signed up for one the other day, and she'll also be on next week's episode of the Podcast, which is a great one to listen to about. About anti-racism, and also just the intersection of racism and Diet Culture, so that's coming out next week. Definitely recommend tuning into that, and then if you WANNA learn more about concrete actions, you can take for the uprising rebellion, especially as someone who benefits from white privilege. If you're kind of like new protesting and organizing a good place to start is showing up for racial justice there at showing up for Racial Justice Dot Org if you're maybe less nude organizing, and you want to dive in and join a local black lives matter. Matter chapter, that is also a helpful way to support the movement, and just do the actions that they recommend help. Support them. If you google black lives, matter and the name of your city or the nearest large city to you, you should be able to find them so I will be back to answering listener questions sometime soon in probably the coming weeks, and if you want to submit your own question for a chance to have it answered on an upcoming episode, you can do that at Christie Harrison dot com slash questions. That's Christie Harrison dot com slash questions. Now without any further ado, let's go to my conversation with Sonya Renee Taylor, which was originally published on July seventeenth two thousand, seventeen as episode number one thirteen. So. Tell me about your relationship with food. Growing up so I come from a mid. West, family African American family were from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and food was A. Very much a part of. Our culture or way of being in relationship with one another. My mother was a phenomenal cook, certainly not a healthy cook. There is lots of Fried Greasy buttery deliciousness happening in my house and there wasn't a lot of talk in my family about like healthy food. There was a lot more conversation about. Managing size, not getting too big league, where I come from a family of big women and so. The work was always about not becoming too big, and so there was. A dieting culture in my family, but it was very crash diety. Airy, Oh, now we're doing the cabbage water diet and then the next week. We're having MEATLOAF slathering him crazy. was there. I wouldn't say that there was A. An experience of balance. It was very sort of either. We are eating whatever we eat. However we eat or we're dieting. Very all or nothing very all or nothing, very all or nothing, and did you get on the Diet train young like? Did you start dieting with them, or was it? Something like the adults? Did this dieting thing and you sort of know? When my grandmother one period I lived with my grandmother, my mother didn't Diet. She was pretty small most of my childhood. She didn't gain weight until she got there, but my grandmother was heavier and. So when she dieted dieted because. You're on the you know. He was on the cabbage soup week log diet allows. The carrots. And if there was awesome as idea of wanting to do it with my grandma, you know. Something about the belt to meal and communal about would alternate. Disordered eating. and. How did that affect your relationship with your body? I think that. Because my family, because my family always had big breasts and big guys, big hips, a curve, naturally curvy women and In my community. That was okay to appoint was always kind of the like it was okay if you were thick quote, unquote, which can be too thick and so. As a young person. I developed early like I'm sort of got the Taylor boobs and but. Around eleven years old, and so I started seeing relationship with my body as sort of social capital social capital that I needed to match. Attention and it got me and my friends rides home from. The Amusement Park I think you know like into there is a way in which I got a lot of attention because my body was looked very adult. Teenager and there was also a very clear need to regulate this commodity. Were you conscious of that. Was it sort of? Something that you recognize you have the ability to manipulate, or was that not until later that you sort of saw that for what it was. No, I think I I think I recognized it pretty early, because I was not a particularly popular kid in elementary and junior high, and then I had a body, and then I was a little bit more popular in the world and I made the connection. That there were ways in which my body was a currency. And I remember my cousin has passed away now. He's a year and a half older than me. We sort of had this very brother sister relationship. said to me, it's not that people like you because you're the only like you because of your body. I think I was like sixteen when he said Bat, and it's like it was one of those things I stuck along time in making though. There is a way in which my body is my value in so because value there's there are some really particular ways it has to be and I think that that notion definitely later on in my life of Cami on Yo-yo dieting. Those sorts of things. For sure, yeah, any sort of sense that you could step out of line and things will fall apart is exactly like fuel for the fire dieting exactly and we're Yo Yo dieting mentor out your teenage years two or not come to later. Probably didn't come until later. Yeah, I don't have a lot of memories in my teenage years of dieting, I was Kinda. Naturally our glass and Stained that way for a while then. Until my late teams, and then I remember being for food, concerned, but still not dieting. Probably until like my early twenties when it was like Oh, you can join weight watchers. Are you controlling? Weight loss, or you can join Jenny Craig and actually had a little bit of disposable income that I was doing more that. Yeah, what do you think I made you conscious of your body and wanting to change it? I think that I mean as I got older. I noticed that I was starting to gain weight. And there was this sense of your on the line of being too big in, so you have the monitor it outside you know, and also there was a lot of talk, but know there's always the station the freshmen. You go with the college, and so there's all this kind of. Don't get too big. And I ended up going to a school were a lot of the girls were very thin. Attractive Girls, which made me more hyper aware of my is injected edition two. Left the community where where my body was commodity and. moved to a space where that was less so I was really aware of that. And what was that like for you? I mean college in general was just really difficult I was putting myself through school in also working full time, and also already not the norm and in terms of the risk is students. That I was going to school with and I also physically wasn't the norm, so it was a very isolating time. It was a very isolating time. Yeah, that does sound isolating and Mike disconnected you from the college experience. Yes, I definitely would say my college experience of survival. Of the college experience whatever we were mansize that, too. Right yeah, that stereotypical kind of extended adolescence or something sounds like you didn't get that. Much. Yeah, and so, what do you think that was the catalyst? Then for starting to take dieting more seriously like okay, I'm GonNa do this Dieter, join weight watchers, or whatever yeah. I definitely think there was a lot of pressure either. Direct or indirect? Number. At a boyfriend at the time you. I just started like we. Was My first serious boyfriend? Adolescents and we have this period of time where we had a brief break up in, he was dating someone else and I don't remember the context of the conversation, but I remember him saying. That part of his fear of. Serious with me that I would be I would get fat when I got older. So again there are these jazz sorta moments along the way it's solidified. The like I needed to not get any bigger or You need to stay at this line as I took this job. Right out of college as a wilderness counselor for kids with emotional and behavioral problems were literally moved to the woods and lived in so. made the. Tense made out of trees and work. Wow them, but part of my reasoning. When is sort of ask? Why am I doing nets? And it was like a WanNa. Save money I want to prove I can do something I don't know. I can do like. Go live in the woods. WanNa lose pounds. Johnson definitely part of my views inning going to live in the woods. Ma. And opposite another place where that sort of all or nothing way of being in relationship with my body weight and booed was really normalized because when we were at work, which is like five days a week twenty four hours a day living on campsite. Exceptionally, active life and there was very. You know specific amount of calories. They gave the kids every day. And that's what you made. And and then on the weekends. When you had your time off, it would be like just over the top decadence and ridiculous a drinking. So there was this berry sort of swing back and forth that again just got very normalized. Yeah, it sounds almost like it mimics the restrict bench cycle of dieting, or the yeah, the sort of like the Cheat Day concept that's now so popular in diets exactly and that was our weekends are weekends. Jeep Begins Ray. Yeah so did that sort of cycle than continue or did that drive you further into the obsession with dieting, restricting kind of locking down in certainly made me so I ended up losing. Pounds, or something like that, and over the course of the year. That worked there. And I remember it being so aware of the difference again in attention. With towns on without. Out. But I've never been I'm not a particularly disciplined human being so so so. Diet! It's never really worked out well. Auto particularly. So, even as I noticed myself, gaining the weight back after I left that job, but I I was aware of it in concerned about it, but not doing anything about it, or maybe maybe I did back to. Accounting points or something like that man. I would stop. So yeah, it was just very much. This sort of if we stay annual cycle of our a act after trying to get back on the wash train right right and yes, so common right like people because we're not designed to be able to sustain weight loss for any period of time, so it's so normal for your body to just drive you back to what it wanted to be. And then you feel like it's your problem your fault. Like. Why better do this other diet? Then I better. Work Harder. Work harder yeah yeah, it's amazing. How insidious that! Is, and how like you know I've heard the argument that if there was another product. That had a ninety five percent failure radio. Right Right, right? We would not blame ourselves. We will blame the product. There'd be class action lawsuit thousand. The market. Right exactly yeah, but somehow he just come to blame ourselves for diets, not working. Yeah, SORTA insidious. Yes, so that was like your early twenties, said yes, I would say the sort of being on the Diet train stayed. Until my late twenties and then. Add singularly actually. Early Thirties mid-2000s is when I stopped. Right gave weight watchers. My last twenty dollars vanish. And then I. Still Care. Still noticed that I was gaining weight, and still had judgment about it, and but wasn't. Actively I think I was starting to give some consciousness of doubt just how much! Waste the time this process was I think I was starting to be like, but you. It never stays off and you're not really happy doing mess and. It isn't working. So why are you still doing this I think those questions started to form in my early thirties. That's when I found performance poetry go I ended up in this kind of counter cultural world where it was okay. Big Question, some of these ideas and I think that is when I started to divest from is sort of normative idea of like what weight needs to be. That's interesting. Was it were a fat acceptance sort of thread in that community, or was it just like generally opening up to questioning everything about life I? Think it was generally opening up to questioning everything about life. I know that somewhere in their early on maybe. Came across Maryland, Juan's book Fatso infielder elicit just thinking about these things in a way that I had not gone about them before and I remember was a poet and she. I can't remember her name today, but she was fat, and she had a beard, and she wrote about her body, being her politics, and it was the first time I'd ever heard anybody. Talk about their body and defying the normative standards as a political action and I had never. It never considered it up until that point. And I still don't think I was fully ready to let in that idea, but I certainly began to mullet Dover. It was a it was a new limbs to try on. And I think it took some years for to kind of fully bloom, but definitely I would definitely she and that community and the community a large started planting the seeds of mine early ideas with body acceptance. Yeah, it's interesting how long it can take sometimes because I had that experience too like. I was an editor of journalist is my first career before I went back to school to be a Dietitian and now I do both. But when I was working as a journalist in school to become a Dietitian, I, had a friend of mine who worked at an online magazine was assigned at this package on childhood obesity and he was like I can't do this. I'm a health at every size. Advocate like it would kill me to deal with this package on childhood obesity, but my boss really wants to do it, so can you edit? Edit it for me. Can you be a guest editor like deal with his package and I was like cool Shirley. I'm going to school for Nutrition Childhood. Obesity is right up my alley and you know, but he ended up still working on the package, writing stories for it, and like through conversations with him about health at every size, and like the war on childhood obesity, and why that might be unfounded I. Did start to open up to like Oh this. There's this other thing. There's this other paradigm that is health at every size and. Maybe, can help explain some of the stigma that these kids are facing is causing them so many more health problems than their size right, but it didn't quite register until like five years later or something when I started working eating disorders as a Dietitian and then I was like Oh. That's hang. Damn socking him out. The pieces are waiting to fall in place. Right, yeah! Oh you've got move this one thing when you move their position, Anki or something else will happen and all of a sudden it all. Kind of like Tetris, game or something. Up Blacks Yeah. Absolutely. That's cool, so yeah, what happened then when you when you started to like, explore those ideas or when the seed was planted. An think that I just got I've always been a person who's questioned things and always been kind of live and let live sort of philosophy from very young, and so I think that I started to just question. Why people aren't just living their bodies right like like, why do I? Why are we? So? Why do we care so much about what's happening with other people's bodies and a think the just also became clear that like there was this way that the world expected us to be in our bodies. That was keeping people from just being happy. Just celebrating themselves as I started sort of like noticing these. Narratives of shame and noticing the judgements that we were living with and. Just as kind of slow brew awakening that was happening for me about one just making piece of by body, but but larger than Matt Lake starting to question the container under which we been viewing. Journal. Though I didn't know that those sort of disease or my work with the body is not an apology. That definitely was sort of the. Early sprouting where these ideas of what is it? It keeps US disconnected from ourselves disconnected from other people, and what keeps us from affirming ourselves and burning to like our bodies, and all of those questions were floating around, and then again in that that's. Mental Tetris it happens I. had this Selfie in my phone of myself in his Black Corsair getting ready for an event at I loved the photo I felt really sexy in powerful in my body, and at the same time was hyper, conscious of this counter narrative that was very loud inside of my ear, telling me do not share that photo like you're too fad your to black or to. The DOT and since that conflict to. Conflict. It's tough was creating something. Because I, it just was not allying. But there's part of me loves this photos of what is this voice telling me not to? And I decided to share the photo after several months of being matt sort of tug of war, inside of myself, decided to show the photo and invited other people share photos. Were they felt powerful and in their bodies, and then the next day like twenty folks tag me in photos of themselves, and it's just started feeling very clear to me that like. Oh we think we are not allowed to celebrate our bodies. However, they look you know. Those twenty photos were all different sorts of people in all different sorts of bodies in a clearer to me that maybe we just needed a space where we were allowed to. Not like tolerate our bodies, but like actually love them and speak nicely about the mcpeek nicely one another about the as celebrate them exactly as they are, and a had. This poem called the body's not apology for about eight to ten months that I had been sharing in the world and I was like Oh. Maybe I should just make facebook page where we can do that thing, celebrate our bodies and disconnect from this sort of. Shame that keeps us or celebrating our bodies and. That's how the page the body is. Not An apology came about, and it sounds like it really struck a chord with people, because everybody has these feelings of like being ashamed about something to do with their bodies and the voice that says don't share that you're not good enough. There's something wrong with you. Of like open up a space for that to give people a place to share and celebrate their bodies, and that was also wasn't that back in like two thousand eleven I think I read select. Kind of before, certainly before this wave of the body, positive movement was really happening before body positivity went so mainstream. Definitely and I think there was this notion very early on. For me, one of the things that just got cleared. Everybody has a by. If nothing else we we all have this thing in common and I don't know anybody who is one hundred percent happy with it. So, what is that about? And I just started noticing the connection between the messages that we give folks about Wade and the messages that we give folks about race and the messages that we give disability. There's a narrative just seems to be sort of cutting through all this. The no matter what body you're in, it's not a good enough body, and that seems absurd to me since we all have to have a body. You literally would not be here. You can't. You can't do this particular Ryan without one. And so there was this kind of stress very matter of fact technique. By that time we were having really fractured relationships of our bodies that it wasn't. It wasn't about one particular way our bodies right. It was about a multitude of ways that our bodies were in my experience of just posting at Selfie and then having people the next day. Wake up and post theirself he's. made it evident that part of tackling whatever those sort of. Crappy narratives about bodies. was about community housing. Go like I did something bad. Brave and celebratory and bat permission to other people to be brave and celebratory. And so what if we create a community where we can be brave and celebratory about our bodies. and. I'm I was I still remained Florida by how obviously necessary that was quickly. Started to grow right, yeah, it really caught on because people needed that space yeah. And it sounds like it's it sounds like you know. The Ali ideas about race and disability and size like that's all you know very informed by intersection analogy. Right like, did you? Did you have a sense of like intersectional feminism or that sort of thinking before you? You stumbled into that, or did you just kind of feel your way into it intuitively I. Definitely Think I, felt my way into it into a didn't have the language of intersection, analogy and certainly. I didn't know that I was using language of feminism I am by major in College, was those theology with an emphasis on race class gender, so those ideas were already there the language of our. Social world changes so The time. That eleven common I finished college in two thousand. There was a whole different lexicon. But the idea is that we are. Living at the cross roads of multiple identities like the idea that that I am. Black, and a woman and Queer and neuro divergent the I. Didn't you know like I? Don't think I had to go to school to know. Those things can be just our which drew. Me and my body right, and so it was a way in which that language was always present, because that was always present in my life, I grew up living at the intersections of multiple identities and grew up around people living at the intersection of multiple identities, so always made very clear since to me that there were a multitude of issues to be talking about and then later on the language intersex analogy. Intersectional. Feminism showed up and I was like. Oh, I guess that's what we're calling this thing that I. Just feels berry intrinsic. That's called. That's really interesting, so did you with those other identities sort of intersecting identities? You grew up with. Do you feel like you had to make peace with each of those at a certain point? was there ever shame around them or feelings of not not enough nece, or was that more located in your body size? Oh, no, definitely think all the multitudes of identities. had a good healthy dose of stain and offer that probably a been most impacted at least as it relates to shame with related to my racial identity, ambitious related to to being black in. America and the some internalize racism that existed there in the that manifest. In community dynamics. Like I got teased a lot as a kid for in dark skin, and I got teased a lot of bragging short hair and I got. into a I can see all of those incidents manifestations of white supremacist notions of beauty, but as a kid I did know that I just thought I was like the volume black role who wanted to do that? In which part of what fueled the notions of my body? Is Currency Right again? It was like you have all these other things that no is ever going to find beautiful, so you'd better figure out how you can capitalize on this in Eugene, which was a body, it can be sexualize ramp. And so those areas of identity always had stigma attached to them and healing those back in some ways I would offer that. Weight has been one of the easier ones I mean. I say that relatively. Own the easier ones to sort of navigate. Yeah, that's interesting. So. How did you start to unpack appeal back? On sort of confront or recognize the internalized racism or It happened. You know, encompass felt very accidental. Activists didn't set out to do any of these things. But I didn't mean to do any of doing. Same here. Exactly what? But like I said I was in a poetry community, and I think a lot of my enquiries game to happen in my writing I would start to be asking myself about these ideas through the vehicle of poetry, and in two thousand and. Nine or two thousand ten, I, two, thousand, nine, or two, thousand and ten. There was this big sort of. BROUHAHA! That happened in the poetry community. Someone was writing a recap of a national poetry event and I've found there recap to be really racially biased. Now I don't have any recollection feeding really. Deeply about race before then but. Something about that. Recession and something about the way that the person wrote the review. Chest really. Put a spotlight on. Not only, but I felt was like racial bias in what they writing, but it also made it very clear to me all of the ways that I had judged things through my own limbs of internalized racism, and so I wrote up an essay in response to to this person's essay. And all of sudden found myself just deeply embroiled in conversations about racial equity add by supremacy an empty blackness. and. I didn't. I surely didn't set out to be the person having those conversations, but those conversations. were striking a chord in me and as they did. They just sort of translated into the way that I. Seeing the world moving through the world, and that I started questioning all of my own ideas about things. So I find that just started. The thread for me is in that something will happen. The capitalizes, an idea or cadillacs is is something that's been stirring inside of me Anyway Urban Norman. And then it becomes. The next major piece of something so I think all of these things were building blocks leading up to the creation of the bodies, binding apology, but of course I see them at the time Brian I didn't know that I was having these separate conversations in inquiries about all of these different issues about body, because I supposed to go on to create an intersectional digital media. I know that. Right but all of those things where being foundation. Yeah that makes so much sense and and I've read you know you've written barely beautifully about how like discrimination and injustice. Plays into our directly the result of our difficulty. Bodies Right like the making peace with with the body is inability to make peace with the body. Right exactly. Yes, thank you. But? Yeah, so you know, speak a little bit about that like how you started to connect the concept of body acceptance and the body with all these social justice issues. So I didn't when I first started the buddies, not apology as the face of page. Those overlaps were not. Conscious to me yet, they were there again in that sort of tetris right, they were there. They read Bannon all falling into place. And what I think was happening was that I was doing all of these things separately right like I was doing racial justice work over here and. Doing stuff around mental illness over here had been doing stuff around HIV over there and I've been doing stuff around reproductive rights and justice abortion over there. Doing the disability over there in the. Face of age was about like the body, and I was also at that time. Sir, coming into my own identity, is queer that was happening and as I was. You know posting things sharing things that were about the body in about like how we love our bodies our. Practice this idea of at the time I? Don't think I was using the I had not yet developed language or was calling it radicals of love. I think I was I was talking about living unapologetically and later that language DOT clearer, but. A started to see that. It wasn't jest our own experiences, our own personal antidotes that were informing how we saw our bodies, or how we saw other people's bodies, there was an entire larger framework right so I was like what if we are in this battle? At the time one of the things that big was a position, eight and leasing people's right to get married and I was like that's. Who I marry is about. The way the desire and love happens in my body. That's about my body, and it's about how my body relates to other people's bodies, whether or not people eat, that's. Normal quote, unquote or not normal and police, violence and the. Targeting of black bodies by the police is about it's about blackness, which is about bodies. Like the erasure of Disabled six in just our. World in general is bow making some bodies invisible, because they make us uncomfortable, and so it just started to be very clear to me that the issues of injustice and inequity that we were seeing in the world or very directly related to how we felt about people's bodies, and think later on would also got clear that even when it isn't necessarily directly related to how you feel about people's bodies. Impact and outcomes of whatever those beliefs in thinkings are have been on the body, so have to deal with the site of impact, which is the body, and so that just all kind of. Became clearer as as I endeavored into the work. And I started seeing the connection between all of these different things that I thought I was doing if felt very different, except that I was like Nope, there actually all about the body. They're all. We feel about the body. They're all about whose bodies decided normal is bodies. Curved as the depot body close is imagine a body. It's all about whether or not bodies are in alignment with those rules prescribed. It's the body. Right that is such a beautiful explanation of why body positivity or body, acceptance or health at every size or whatever you're going to call it, you know is a social justice issue, and why? We can't divorce spotty size from other forms. Other identities and other ways in which people are oppressed or marginalized and it's. It's so important. I think at this point in history especially with what's going on our government right now to like recognize that. This is the body positive or body. Acceptance Movement can't. Just stay silent about other issues right? It's like it's about lifting up people of size, but also people of Color People Queer folks and Trans folks in like people with disabilities, and all of that like it's. It's not body, positivity or body acceptance if we're not making room for all bodies. Exactly like I'm just like if I can't be positive and my blackness and I can't be positive quickness and I can't be posited in my neuro divergence and I can't be if they're these other places were not allowed to be positive, but doesn't matter I. Totally Okay being. That's. All and so. I think it's important for us. Recognize that as long by if any of those systems of injustice and actually we will ever achieve collect deliberation member will never actually totally be free to live in our bodies as we see it as long as there are ways in which somebody's are policed and other bodies are not. Right, that's well said. If your body is considered to not measure up in some way, even if you've got it now, it's all okay over here on the body sized front, but you're still being told you're not good enough and all these other ways. That's GONNA show up in your relationship with your body and your with yourself. And it's it's not all. Rosy just because you have your relationship with your size and your your body shape. Can. It worked out? Not at all because again, this idea that none of us are living a single issue. Live railway. We live at the intersections of these identities. Just if you get one fixed of scrape, who wants to be playing oppression walkable? To write. US to create a world that works for everybody so that everybody has the option to pursue air. Hi, sells their most powerful existence. Absolutely yeah I'm curious to know your kind of feelings about the current positive movement as as mainstream as it is now a sort of one color, one gender, one age group you know like. How can we improve that or work with that? I think it's really important to recognize the ways in which movements become a commodity or the larger economic structure that we live under, and so being able to see how capitalism uses ops movements to further his own agenda, and so part of the reason why positivity I think is gone, so mainstream is because it's a way to. to sell it to us. It's like Oh we back. And I think as soon as we recognize. The thing we made is now being sold to us. A GREAT! It's a great place to be like a mini. Something is off here. Things that I wanNA talk about and I work shop someone whenever I'm in space speaking. Is that like a great indicator of whether or not the work that we're doing is the work of liberation. is to look around and see WHO's not in the room and we're looking around the positively movement, and it is white. SIS, able bodied. HOURGLASS shaped size. White women. We're doing the work of freedom like we're not. That is a movement that is operating in Ain Paradigm. That has already which means that it's not sustainable in that we've done that paradigm, and it hasn't gotten as free saving. No, it doesn't work. So were there and we find ourselves? Replicating not saying paradigm is a great indicator that we are in a space that he's actually going to be productive towards the long term goal of equality of the regime, and it's part of the reason why we moved to this language of radical self love, because the notion of radical demands that we deal with the intersections of our social political and economic lives in relationship to our bodies, and so if we are not like in the body, positivity movement isn't changing the way in which. All bodies get to live unencumbered and free. Is only replicating system that already exists, it is not radical and radical requires drastic change. It requires a change that shifts the systems, our society in our world, and it implies that inherently exists that it is already is already there and in us, as though there is an opportunity for us for folks who are in the body positive movement to continue. To ask who isn't here? And why aren't they here? To ask the best thing that I did for my own self This work was to keep pressing the Lids the to keep pressing those sort of outer boundaries of body positivity. Is it okay for me to be positive about my body? Panels. Is it okay to be positive about my body? If I'm quadriplegic from an accident? Is it okay for me to be positive about my body as an undocumented arsim? Is that like keep asking? How far does my positively? That is that is our personal debts are personal bias. That's where we get to see. Oh, actually, here's where my own prejudice lives right and then we get. Back for ourselves and I I think that we don't collectively ask particularly the the movement of body positivity to do that that hard pressing inquiry often enough. Yeah absolutely because I think that's how you get. People who are like. Oh, well body positivity is great for people who are in up to this weight size and this this range, but you know above that it's just unhealthy, and there's no. Health every size, but not for all sizes only for sizes up to, and it's kind of like what you were saying about growing up this idea of like. You can't get too big. You have there's outer limit to like what is acceptable or something and a Yankee. That's you know no matter what the limit is right because like you had this this limit of like you can't get too big, but acceptance of were big people, and so up to a point like we're just going to be big, but not past this point you know and. And for people and other families or communities, it's like Oh while this is the point, there's always a point. It's a different different point for each person, but there is. Are there these boundaries on what is supposed to be acceptable and I mean I guess I don't WanNa say batteries because I like the word boundaries. I feel like boundaries are so important. I'm. Super Boundaries in terms of keeping yourself safe but like. Certain limitations. Feeling on a ceiling on love. Really what it is right and. Essentially love shouldn't have a ceiling. Loved should be Lizard Expansive, and all COMP-, assaying, and so my love has a ceiling. Fan I own love and a ceiling on my ability to love other people's bodies. What is that about and who put that ceiling? such. Yeah Right. Yeah. I think that we all kind of have those feelings for ourselves that we hold onto in different ways and. Doing the work of asking yourself like why am I not expanding pass? This point is so helpful, so you're talking about feeling unapologetic in your body and feeling good in your body and love for your body and I'm curious. This is a question starting to ask people more and more on podcast, because what comes up sometimes in my work with clients who are working on body acceptance, and you know I'm a intuitive eating coach, so it's Martin. The body image work part of it, but it's also helping people connect back with their bodies cues about eating, but something that I hear a lot is like while you know, have gained weight, and now I'm uncomfortable in my body like now I physically feel less comfortable and sort of ill at ease in this body and this larger body, and as a small person myself having never experienced living in a larger body. I'm Kinda like I don't. Don't think it's my story to tell here. My my thing to explain like what's going on for this person and I would never want to like take away. Someone's lived experience of what it's like to be in their body, because I don't know I don't know what it's like to be. Anyone else's body, but mine, but there is a sense in which I feel like the idea of being uncomfortable in your body at a larger size. There's a lot of weight stigma and fat phobia wrapped up in that right, and so I'm curious to hear like what your your response would be to someone who says I thought I could accept my body, but now it's bigger and I've just uncomfortable. Volunteers a lot of work around unpacking language like does what what does uncomfortable meet because if they were, it doesn't have material reality. And so like what does that mean materially? means that in my closer tight, so is that because you're willing to go up? asides in the close aware right like in if so, let's talk about what that is. Does that mean that things are harder to do? And if so, what are those things that are hardly do? Is that a function of gain or is that a function of? Wellness in some other way that can be assessed outside of weight and asking people like one of the examples. It's just like I can't walk up snow. Being tired great so if you were to build up your cardiovascular system. In central way that totally walk steps without being tired, and you were not to lose one single. How would you be comfortable in your body and getting people to like grapple with that? Because often I totally agree that a lot of times uncomfortable in my buyer uncomfortable with this new size and all the conditioning that I have received that needs to be. Now. And so divorced ing? Wellness from weights. And divorcing this sort of ways, in which we have married weight and size to notions of comfort and ease and health, and all these other things, really asking people to pull those things apart and deal with the material reality of where things that I do want to be able to do or cannot do now. What are ways that I moved through the world are different, and are there ways to navigate those things that are not about weight because at the end of the day. Usually, it isn't about the weight. There are markers indicators of wellness and Gillian Stamina. All of these things that are absolutely independent wait. We have them tied together that? Are. Still that all of those things are function a weight gain. That the only way that they can be navigated by weight loss, and so asking people to separate those Dan's but great I want you to be able to walk slightest bill good to. Question is if you were to develop that ability that stamina and never lose a pound. Would that be fine? Yeah, and then when people get no with, be hard, because or will I? Don't know because then. We know that we're starting to get. Is Much more about the. Weight than it is about an actual. Material. Discomfort Yeah. That's really well said and I think it's so true that people can have different levels of stamina that have nothing to do with their size, but just like. How often do you do this thing right like often? Are you walking up a flight of stairs? He now maybe this is. You're traveling to a place. That has a subway with a bunch of stairs. You're not used to it upstairs. Nita must time or Stuff like that, so I can. Getting into the swing of things because the reality is to people of all sizes, you know people in smaller bodies get winded going upstairs sometimes if they're not used to it or. Read or if it's a hot day and they have not water, whatever like there's lots of factors even on an individual level day to day. That can affect your how you're feeling in your body. so yeah and I think the thing about close feeling tight so interesting too because. Iowa's sale close job to fit you. It's not your job A. It's not. It doesn't matter what size it says you know and it saying just please closed field constricting. That's not a fault with your body. That's a fault with the clothes. That we do often in the realm of weight as they, we blame our bodies for the ways in which we stigma and bias baked into the entirety of our society. Right so they us. I it was someone on a on a thread on the body is not an apology on facebook. The other day, saying relied too fat to do dot dot dot dot, and I was thinking I offer that it's unlikely that your to fact to dot dot dot. Dot Dot dot did not consider your body when he created whatever it was created. A. Of A. Wage my bias erasure of the manufacturer, and not a failure of you're. Absolutely yeah, the world is not designed with body diversity in mind, not at all designed for a very narrow subset of the population. Exactly and our bodies aren't wrong for that right exactly. Yeah, yeah, no I think that's so important to keep in mind and it's also hard I. Mean I definitely have worked with people who are like you know? I've always been fat, but I've been able to fit in airplane seats or whatever, and then now I'm crossing a threshold. There's the ceiling again where now? Can be able to, and it's like. I feel so much empathy for people in that situation to you, because it's really important and helpful to acknowledge like the world is not built for you and it sucks, but it's quite another to like have to experience that firsthand especially, if you're. Not used to that sort of jumping into. It can feel like a very scary thing to jump into. Yeah, definitely, the awakening sort of call it like the process of having the blinds open, and it doesn't realize discovered that it doesn't matter which sort of area of oppression or bias your awakening to. Awakening to it is an exceptionally painful eight. It's awakening to the fact. That the world has decided that something about you is not okay. And as a very jarring and painful and isolating experience, but I think it's so important for us to keep coming back to the that it's not about you as an individual that is about a largest system that we've all been conditioned to believe in to varying degrees, and the work of dismantling that system is the work of a weakening to it right? Yeah, awakening is a huge part of it because. Most of us spent a lot of our lives, not awake to it, and so then exactly starting to see it as a big step, and then starting to really live it is is another think. Yes, absolutely I think it's also a dance. It's like you can sort of be awake to these issues and understand that it's a systemic thing. It's not something about you personally failing, but then there's those moments in life that just push your buttons that just take you back to that place of Oh my God. Maybe it's my fault. People say like. The day can go years without dieting or thinking about diets, and then something that happens, and it's like Oh. Maybe I should try this thing. Back on this diet. You know like we talk about it? The body is not an apology. like the work is the worker Article Self. Love is not a destination based work. It's a journey, a lifelong journey work, and it's a lifelong journey base for. Were never living in a world doesn't still have those biases in it and so. We're constantly countering a message in given to us every single day and I mean it's exhausting. In some days we'll still more fortified to fight those messages than others in tell people originally asset remnant tire organization focused on radical self. Love is my whole life and job, and there are days I wait my body, and that too is part of the journey. Totally, that's such an important point like none of us are. Finished works of art in this movement like. It's a progressive thing. It's not a not a destination. Because I feel the same I definitely have days when I wake up and don't love my body or try on and outfit, and I'm like Oh God no home. It's like that's. That's the reality of living in this world, and then the question is what do you do with that? Can you accept it and move on and just sort of be like okay? I'm having a bad day or a tough time with my body right now, but I'm just gonNA. I'm still gonNA feed it Ryan. I'm still gonNA give it what it needs I'm still gonNA. Move it or not move it as my body tells me wants like I'm not going to punish it for this feeling bobbing about it, which doesn't really come from it in the first place de. Conditioning about it back. I was GONNA say that. That's the distinction that for me. That helps me navigate is remembering. What I call the distinction between the inside boys on the outside boys, the voice of my radical self love boys. It's the voice that actually knows by intrinsic. Wealth and value in the world in the body that I have right now. And then there's the outside voice which is the voice of his by discrimination and body shaming on terrorism and. Polity in that voice is the voice that's talking loud in Sunday's. That voice, really loud, and then some day unable to turn it down, but knowing that it isn't my voice, knowing that actually aimed at his blaring in ears is an external voice. It has been given to me. Helps me, navigate on those days and and I talked about like. If you have a toddler, learn and you were good parents. You came home and your toddler. Alert on the walls or bottle of flour. Coated in flour with was that the toddler dand it. Has You frustrated as all get out that particular day you would still feed the toddler. Bill love the toddler. You would still care for the toddler and clean it clean the toddler up. And so what if we treated our relationships with our bodies lake toddler that we're learning. We are growing up into is a relationship that is outside of external voice. What if were patient and kind and loving and gentle with ourselves as we would be with a toddler, we were frustrated. I love that. That's such a good metaphor. Because it really is, we can have that kind of frustration with our bodies in the throes of body negatively and yet they're still offense in which we have to care for them and be there for them and. Show them love and compassion. In order to move forward with our lives. In order to live again the. Particular ride with about it. Makes sense that makes sense to try to make these totally really. Yeah, there's no way anyone's GonNa. Get to be like a disembodied soul floating in a jar somewhere like. That doesn't exist. Via, so you got a care for the body. You have yeah. Yeah. Well, so lovely talking with you and tell us where people can find out more about the bodies on an apology. Read some of your work. Absolutely so the body is not apology runs the daily digital magazine with content from writers, and all kinds of bodies all over the world, and you can read our content on a regular basis at www dot. The body is about an apology dot com. You can also follow us on all the social media platforms at the body is not an apology, and you can find out more about my individual word at Sanga Dash. Rene Dot Com or he also follow me on facebook on your name Taylor or on twitter at urinate. Awesome and we'll put links. All those in the show notes so people can find you. Right! Yeah, thank you so much Sonya pleasure talking with you, it was. Pleasure talking to you Kristie thanks for having me on absolutely. So. That is our show. Thanks again so much to Sonya Renee Taylor for that great conversation we had years ago and for all of her amazing work, and thanks to you for listening. We'll be back next week with a new episode, and meanwhile to get full show notes from this episode. 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PS5 Backwards Compatibility New Info - Ep. 187

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PS5 Backwards Compatibility New Info - Ep. 187

"Coming up on today's show ubisoft another controversy apple slaps epic yet again an. Trilogy. Actually. What's good everybody and welcome to another episode of what's Good Games live. Video. Game News Commentary. Analysis unfunny stuff. They morning at eleven am Pacific Time right here at twist to be what's gains I'm Andrea Rene joined by Miss Brittany Brom Bacher. Really Andrea you nailed it you nailed. It didn't quite nail it but you know what's sometimes you just gotTa do a do over that sausage. Kind of not unlike the recap means that happens. Good Oh, boy some people in the video version were like, yeah. Why did you cut this from the video version because I made his own video which post today for you guys so you can see it in all of its glory, but welcome to the show everybody of course, this is where you get your headlines on the weekend from me and Brit and of course, we want you to be part of the show for dear WG write to us at games dot com slash. Dear WG welcomed everybody joining us live in the Chat Issey. Some math faces, which is very nice. Thank you for all the support. We love that you guys support here on twitch dot TV slash what's Good Games? Britney. We have just a couple of quick announcements before I ask you about this amazing little trip. You went on this week Ganal. We're not going to be back here next Monday because it's Labor Day and we're going to take the day off. It's a day of of rest for us here at what's good Games that also means there won't be a Monday stream. But of course, the Friday show we'll be back as per usual and we've got some exciting news on Mondays September fourteenth not only do we have our packs online panel, but we also have a very special guest joining us on what good Games live. This is the. Guests are not gonNA WANNA. Miss. We will do a full review of that in just a couple of days plus on Thursday September seventeenth at three PM Pacific Time is our online panel. That's right. Architects at home has been fully revealed. They have a whole schedule of cool content and we're going to be there on the wonderful world of games. Journalism panel was familiar faces for you guys. We've got blessing addio junior from kind of funny easy allies is bringing Brandon Jones and Daniel blood worth, and it's all going to be moderated by inside gaming's autumn feral. So it's GonNa be fun time. Hopefully, you will join us for that as well. Brittany and you were out of contract this weekend. Concert in these crazy times. So adjacent to Lake Lance weekend, which is about four hours away from where I live and just turned out while we were there metallic was having this one night only drive in concert extravaganza and we went to a little town called Mak which was an hour north at the entire population of. Forty. Three hundred people so It was pretty great and the drive in itself was this drive in screen material just like stretched on the side of I was Rodeo Stadium. And that was it there was a maximum capacity of twenty, six cars. And we all just Kinda. Parked out and rock METALLICA. The people. So was it like a replay of consoles. Specifically recorded and produced and. For a drive in theater. So they recorded it was like two hour. Two hours of music like were on stage, and then you just play the song through your car speakers or you had a radio and it was really cool. Actually it was a lot of fun. I didn't realize how badly I needed that I think that was the first sign that I. Like Thankfully Jason was the that I just got super duper. Hammer. It's it's quarantine started and just rocked out in fact last night I was walking around what is my fucking neck so bad and is because all the head banging in those great. Fun. That's awesome. I didn't know that they were doing things like that I. Know a lot of people are getting creative with drive ins and how can we do social distance gatherings and things like that but that sounds that sounds really cool. So I'm glad that you had a great time Oh. Yeah. You did miss the indy arena booth which was super. So big thanks everybody who? Stopped by our streams on Friday and Saturday, we did a little tour a tour around in the afternoon on Saturday after we were done on the official channel. So thanks for all the support friends and congrats the entire team at endearing booth. They won the heart of Gaming Award which we're GONNA. Talk about a little bit later on in the news speaking of which, why don't we? Get to the news brought you WanNa get a started Oh. Yes. So this morning twitter was all the buzz must put together with this little tidbit, and that is ps five is not backwards compatible with PS three PS GOP Games according to Ubisoft support page. Goodness. So I, I learned about three or six warriors sixty four, and if you go to the link that was there, there's A page and it says transitioning playstation for titles in next Gen versions and Faq and question is how does upgrading from playoff playstation Ford playstation five work, and here's the answer as part of their next Gen upgrade process playstation offers a number of features designed to help you move from ps four ps five ps four players will be able to join multiplayer games with PS five players. Bold backwards compatibility will be available for supported playstation four titles, but will not be possible for playstation three, playstation two or playstation games. and. Then there's link underneath that says we also have information next-gen for the XBOX series ex but. What do you take with you? How do you read this Andrea I read this as like that that that makes sense like the idea that you're going to be able to play everything in the playstation library and your ps five is ridiculous like that. No Council has ever really offered that obviously, we're getting select parts of the library through things like playstation now or what Xbox is doing through game pass. But like all backwards compatibility is like you don't get that. Technology work. No I'm totally with you I don't think this is surprising at all. I think what we've learned from these recent generations back combat man it's just not fully what you expect it to be and a lot of folks are saying, well, we'll look at what xbox is doing and I guess if you look at it from that perspective, it's like, yeah, I mean in case of you guys forgot the box series x will be a we'll have thousands of titles available to play a launch it'll. Have Xbox xbox three sixty xbox one, xbox series x NPS five is specifically going to have playstation four games. That's what Jim Ryan said like that's the statement said they said nothing about older games or anything else so what this tells me is that well, I feel like you know what xbox offers obviously so much better and if the playstation wants to compete, then they have to beef up that playstation now service that they have, and maybe that will be a thing they're going to focus on going forward. I mean I think that they have to right I think I. Think Game Pass Combined With X. Cloud is going to be an incredibly important part of this next generation for Microsoft and if Sony wants to have similar offering and be competitive than they're going to have to beef up what they're doing in the cloud gaming and the streaming space I think that that's just a given as we. Marched toward the inevitable digital future. That's you know I'm going kicking and screaming into. Here we are. Here we are. Yeah, I didn't realize this I'm playstation now there's no option I mean knew this at one point for your ps one games, but you can download and stream ps four, but he can only stream es three but like and then it comes back to this Andrew I'm like does it really matter like real talk one is going to be the next time I'm GonNa say like Yo I'm really craving breath of fire three on playstation what like some legend? La Guardia or some game like way back in the day that I used to play she's I don't really do that anymore. So for me like. I get like the boxes or are big and they take up space and I understand that maybe for some families you want to sell your older console because new consoles are very expensive. So I understand. Folks who really do need the backwards compatibility but I think for me and probably for you. We're going GONNA go back to these older games. It's more of a, it just sounds good to have it, but I don't think I would even really use it. Yeah. Fair and thirsty panda and the jets says Emmy Three Andrea and we're actually going to be talking about mass fact just a little bit but. If I wanted to play those games I know that I would have to take my three sixty out of the closet, dust it off and plug it in like this is the way it works. Obviously, I do have some of the mass effect trilogy in my Xbox, one libraries for backwards compatibility but I don't expect that and I'm not surprised that series isn't. Going to have everything you know they haven't really clarified because this story is of course about playstation but I mean I I. Guess. Maybe I'm just a realist and that sense that. Sure. It would be nice. I don't think of it as like a a missing feature that I'm going to be upset about because again, there's just so many new games coming out. I don't have a lot of time to go back and play things that I've already played before but that's not the only thing that you saw was involved in. There was another controversy and this one is a little bit spicier. So be soft. removed. A raised black fist imagery from Tom Clancy's elite squad. Do. You actually want to read this while I pull up this footage. Absolutely. So this comes from is. So you stop has decided to remove the black race fist imagery from Tom. Clancy's elite squads intro as it has been deemed insensitive and harmful, and appears to connect a fictional terrorist group called Umbra to the black lives. Matter Movement ubisoft posted a statement on twitter quote imagery that appeared in opening video sequence of Tom Clancy's at least squad featuring a racist insensitive and harmful and both its inclusion and how it was portrayed. UBISOFT tweet reads we've listened to an appreciated the players in the broader community who have pointed it out, and we apologize this raise fist imagery will be removed in the next title update this Tuesday September first on android and as soon as possible on Ios. Elite squads intro video the narrator describes Umbra. This fictional terrorist group. As quote, a new threat has emerged to take advantage of escalating civil unrest. It continues by calling them a faceless organization that wants to build a new world order. When the narrator says, they claim to promote an egalitarian utopia to gain popular support the race fists and questions come into view. The race fists has been used for many years as a symbol of revolution and most recently has been used by those on the black lives matter movement in the fight against police brutality stomach racism. There's controversy is yet another one for be soft, and then it goes on to talk about the other shit that's been going on in there. And be sauce little universe. So yeah, this thing. and. Damn like. This guy always come back to this as well. I think about the very first story we reported on his what's good games when we were thinking like you, what are you doing and it comes back to thousand seventeen when there is the animation was for honor where it was the animation was grabbed the woman's boobs before she kills you and I remember then you just need is this okay person on your team maybe someone who's a woman maybe someone who isn't why I dunno, it just comes down to like how did this even come out in this state especially what's going on right now like How? Yeah. It's I'm with you bread. They just keep tripping over themselves in the most obvious ways to us in. Clearly it's not obvious to them in. You would think after repeated kind of UPS's for lack of a better term that they would maybe make better strides in this. But I think that some of the other controversies they've gotten into this year including the multiple misconduct in sexual harassment allegations that came out earlier this summer indicates that they had a lot of overhauling to do, and maybe that process which kicked off an internal overhaul will eventually trickle down to. Some of these art teams be like, Hey, you know that's not cool. Bro, like maybe we just pick something else. May We just like create something that's not like just ripping ICONS. From other movements, it's not that hard. We in fact, have many artists on staff. Do. Not pay attention to the world. I am not trying I know everyone everyone there is bad but as your head so far up your ass that you don't understand how this relates to the current day and age and what's happening like the literal text is the world's in an alarming state worse corruption and poverty have made it more unstable than ever as the situation keeps worsening angers Bruin from between the cracks, a new threat as to take advantage of the civil unrest and it goes on, it's just like a parallel and. Anyway. I think that's a lot of people are rightly concerned about what's going to happen with watchdogs legion when it launches later this year, who's a watchdogs legion has so many of these themes of what we're experiencing now of civil unrest of. Brutal Police Force physically attacking. Citizens Police arresting citizens when they're not doing anything illegal. The idea that the government is overreaching things that people are experiencing in their everyday life right now and it was something that was brought up win the last big reveal happen during you sell forward and when we did that preview coverage of like you know, are they going to make any changes? Are they're going to be tweaking anything and I, think it's an interesting. Proposition because clearly this game has been in development for several years and these themes and this narrative that they've created was well underway before any of the current unrest that's happening particularly in the United States. But I don't know if that means that they're going to go back and change anything or if they're going to be like Yo, this is the game it is what it is i. I don't know I feel like the right call would be just to scrap it and be like this is not the time nor place is not a good thing to do. But obviously, that's a very, very complicated and very young. It's not that easy and I understand but Dang. Like Tang. Well I guess we're going to see just how it all shakes out when when the game finally comes out but as for elite squad, they've removed this and it's no longer in the game. So I'm glad that a kind of reacted quickly but again. You can do better. Next time you we believe in you, we like your games a lot. We just want you to be better. You can do it to take some time off get your shit together just give monsters or whatever the new title is. That's the Knicks. have any info about God's monsters quite yet but I do you have more details all you are going to be excited. It's yet another wrinkle in the apple versus EPA gain saga, and there will be a week Bernie hopefully in the future we don't have to keep reporting on this but I don't know Andrea these fuckers have so much money they can. Keep this thing going forever. I know well, hopefully though it goes to the courts and we don't have to like we'll play by play every week. All right. So the verge rights hope you didn't delete fortnight or Infinity Blade from your Iowa's device because apple just terminated epochs Deva. Calm. So this actually happened a couple of days ago but wanted to give you. Guys an update they've officially terminated the EPA Games account on the APP store on Friday following its four into dispute an ongoing legal battle with the game studio over in APP, payments for its Battle Royale, the company has confirmed to the verge that means the APP is no longer on the iphone or whatsoever even if you've downloaded it once before another EPA game. Infinity Blade also, no longer re down low of. So here's Apple Statement. We're disappointed that we have to terminate the epic games account on the APP store. We have worked with the team at EPIC Games for many years on their launches while their case moves and excuse me the court recommended that epic comply with abstract guidelines while their case moves forward guidelines they. Followed for the past decade until they created this situation epic has refused instead they repeatedly been fortnight updates designed to violate the guidelines of the APP store. This is not fair to all the developers on the APP store and is putting customers in the middle of their fight. We hope that we can work together in the future, but unfortunately, that is not. Possible today. The decision determined EPA cat was planned for Friday although there was a dispute over whether apple would be allowed to do. So until judge Monday denied epochs motion for a temporary restraining order with regard to fortnight's removal from the APP store. The judge granted epochs temporary restraining order with regard to the unreal engine and apple tells the verge that it has. Not Terminated the other developer account epoch's apple excuse me apple says epoch will no longer be able to submit APPs or updates using epic game developer camp users who previously downloaded forty nine. Iowa's and Mac can keep playing it. So I have added a little side note because I know that in Infinity Blade, the series of brought up here, but that series was. Delisted from the APP store back in December of two thousand eighteen. When epic publicly said we're no longer supporting this game or updating is game. So if you previously bought it, you could download it but now you can't even do that. So if you view, had it on your device and you've downloaded it and you purchased it now you can't re download it. You Know I. I don't even know any more to say about this. I. Love that we're continuing to follow it. Kind of is like I'm GONNA. Love it hate it because it's going to drama I. Guess actually we don't need any joe extra drama right now but yeah, I like. The part of it that is. Not Surprising because epic has clearly come out swinging and is not backing down but that Apple I think rightly highlights is they keep submitting their game updates with the offending piece of code in meaning they keep submitting with this alternate way to pay. And Apple keeps saying, Yo. You guys know that we're not going to approve it until you revert the code back where that payment's plan or that payment system is is in there. You guys know that that's violating the rules but EPA keeps in any way like then they clearly just don't care. EPA clearly has said you know what you know like double birds to you apple like. Kick rocks. It's just like I I. Don't know Man I think this is now very clearly turned into something petty between them and apple is standing his ground going you're we you know this is what the judge said and you don't want to abide by that while the trial goes on. That's fine. Then we're just going to delete your account there. Yeah. Fix it Richie and chat side no apple advertising pudgy mobile as their new battery mobile flagship game to push APP store deal see sales pub g mobile runs on the unreal engine. I didn't see apple pushing that but I did see any to promote it these like another great game but uses unreal engine. I mean right now Pudgy is doing a big marketing push anyway. So when you see ads for Pudgy, don't think that's apple having some kind of motive or directive that's definitely just pudgy core doing their own marketing smartly right now when fortnight isn't available on Iowa say, Hey, did you forget that we were the battle royale came out I I mean I would I would. Would you put it past apple though to put another battle royale frightened center, it'd be like eighty. At this. Just because of my insider knowledge of how those game marketing deals work I. Don't think that they would do just out. Of spite, they would do for money and I bet you pubs you'd be more than happy to pay apple money right now for that marketing space knowing that they don't have to go up against fortnight they can probably negotiate that rate lower but I mean apple's not just going to give them that space for free despite to spite epoch forget apple still loves money I think. I think you and I. The time is right. We need to create a battle royale game and. Say Hey what would it the premise be? What would this be all about something with alcohol? Obviously. Wow our own battle royale yell sixty, nine players. Will there was an idea that Steve had when we were streaming last week with India Arena booth where there's twenty tacos dropped on a map and everybody has to compete to get as many Tacos as they can and the person with the most tacos at the end is the winner of the bowral that's wholesome as fuck I liked that Zombie and chas drinking royale sixty nine players right? Very S I'm saying so you drop us all in maybe it's a bar, and then you have to find all of the alcoholic bottles and then it's a mini game like rhythm bass game to drink it and the last person standing he was so intoxicated that they fall pass out wins. I like it. Santa ship it ship it. Let's go. Is there is there a developer who's listening out there? That has the skills to make this. Happen you like contact what's go- games dot com. Let's make this thing a reality go into business together it's GonNa be Great Mandy. Says this Coat it for US excellent. Hooray Mandy. Let's make this. Happen. I'm down. We're going to be. A maybe. Now. We'll be creative consultants I. Don't Know Anything About Code or how game Dev now comes together I. Mean I know a little bit. I should say I know a little bit. I've interviewed a lot of developers, but I'm not personally capable. Let's. To you I can help approve things and be like that looks cool approved. Yeah. I mean we'll. We're the creative geniuses of this. You See. I love your. IDEA. Brett I'm into it makes. Another idea I love. This massive egg trilogy might actually becoming out in Twenty Twenty Brit Oh my God Andrea. Did you know? That the release of the room trilogy remastered was scheduled for October but now it could slip This well I'm GonNa tell you all about it. Are you ready pulled under your body? Okay. This coming year Gamer. The highly anticipated remake of by where celebrated Sifi trilogy mass effect was expected to release in October twenty twenty new sources claim. Up until like this week I know the plan for sure to announce it in early October release in later October so good news revealed Games beat Journalists Jeff Grubb. On a recent game speed decides podcast maybe bad news it's twenty twenty maybe that could start to slip sounds like maybe that's a possibility nothing for sure yet and quote quote I. Know It's real. He later insisted I've seen more than enough. Evidence to know it's real but it still twenty twenty and a half announce it yet quote I think EA planning to have this mass effect trilogy to be the other big thing other than star wars squadrons for sixty dollars this holiday. So that's why I'm still pretty confident. It will make it out grab added but with everything else falling apart like across the board, I could also see them wanting to just. I am drift. GRUB. Hoe. I know all about the mass effect podcast or? fucked up interestingly grow also advised fan fans to expect it upgraded version rather than full remakes of the Scifi Adventures. Well cool. Saturday Andrea. I'm sorry. No here's the thing if he's so confident also I haven't. I haven't heard from many of my sources that this is real. So if he has that's awesome but I think a really great time for them to release this or officially announce it would be and seven day, which is coming up very soon. Remember. I know but it's November seventh. So if he's hearing October, maybe they just slip a little bit and then you know they're like Yo, it's seven day boom shadow drop. That could be cool. Here's the thing it would be fucking awesome. It would be lovely Kinda like how it'd be really cool. If infinite launch on November six for one sixteen I digress. But November we got you elected Reagan we got cyberpunk. We got so much other things that Alaska through the entirety of twenty twenty one I don't. I. Don't know if I'd forget the plan Andrea and it's all about me. You know that's a very valid point and maybe. Is Looking at that as well and saying why don't we just get out of the way of launch for the new consoles and we wait and we announced this seven day and then we ship it Q. One, twenty, twenty one because the art of the mass effect trilogy that they mentioned that are book that was the thing that had the release date in. February I don't that paragraph. Sorry friends. So the pair raids rumors of a remastered for further stoked went an. Art of the Mass Effect Trilogy Expanded Issue Book Pops Up for preorder last month sporting a February twenty third twenty, twenty, one release date. This new book includes hundreds of never before seen works of art according to a subscription. Okay. So if they're going to release and it's not unusual for our bookstore come out post launch for games anyway. But. If. Feels like might work better if they release those things around each other and if that art book is Real, then why not? Release it alongside the trilogy. So Oh, well On. So a okay. A don't stands alone. Okay. Master one, seventeen, not one, sixteen. Oh, so we could get. Okay I. Digress. Sorry I was just getting corrected and chat. It would be November seventh would also be really cool shadow jake for Halo. Infinite and mass effect that can't happen I was wrong. Sorry. Don't sue me not perfect. It's all good Andrew I don't. Yeah. I. Don't think we're GONNA get any I don't think we're going to get any Halo News? Year. They're going silent or trying to figure everything out and the ship has sailed. It's long. Well, I mean this'll be frigging awesome and it would be fun especially with the smart delivery and the whole how games are natively better on the newer consoles it would be cool to be like Oh. Yeah. Look at this mass effect Trilogy Baby Better Loading Times better graphics all the things on the new consoles and I mean. Usually around new consoles, you don't have that many bomb games to play. I would be perfectly content plane mass effect trilogy. Oh Yeah I mean like you said, January already stacked with games I. Don't need anything else I. Mean I already have to juggle assassin's creed cyberpunk in destiny. So just like why Is. In USA Andrea Coosa. While I'm going to try you coups I told you I would, but we're going to have to divide and conquer. We're going have to split up and then we can reconvene. For Game of the year considerations I'm GONNA have to dabble in as many things as possible. So. But yeah. But I'm holding out hope that this is real because I. I would love to go back and do a playthrough. I can confirm that I have started my playthrough of Kingdoms of Amour, the reckoning, and we'll be able to talk about that. Very soon and It just makes me nostalgic for other games that I could go back and play happy I'm going to say about it happier, times. Right. So we have a couple of smaller announcements some in case you missed it as I mentioned at the top of the show, the indy arena booth happened this weekend out. Of course, was part of Games com twenty, twenty and games. COM had the Games com awards. So some of you may have noticed when opening night live was happening and we were doing the watch along that Sandy Sydney Goodman friend of the show hosted. I would pop up every now. And again to announce a Games come award and there was a lot of people that were very confused about what the Games come awards were, what who are these people that are winning in suggest a little bit of background that those awards are presented every year and they are specifically for games that are shown at games calm and they revealed the entire list of awards and the India Arena booth when the heart of Gaming Award, which was really exciting and. Let me know that the online booth like the whole kind of over that. We showed you guys on Saturday was attended by more than twenty thousand virtual guests, which is crazy and awesome. Wow. Yeah super cool that so many people were able to jump online and check out and just a couple of highlights from the awards. The other awards best game believe went to. Best PC game was cyberpunk best rebounder was mafia definitive edition, best roleplaying game with cyberpunk. Best. Strategy. Went to humankind most original game went avoid train most wanted hardware went to series x best announcement to unknown awakening and Best of games common to cyberpunk seventy seven. So no surprise that cyberpunk kind of swept a bunch of awards but wanted to shout and a big thanks to the Indy Arena Boutin for having US and Brittany. There's some. There's some sadness happening with. Resident Evil what's what's going on? I'm trying to be you know a logical sympathetic empathetic. Human Andrea. But when it comes to my resident Evil News, you don't fuck with me. So back during the playstation five reveal event in June we got resident evil village and I lost my mind at the end of the trailer said more information coming in August now ladies and gentlemen depending on where you are in the world I encourage you I implore you to look at your calendar and look at the current date. It is Monday August thirty first thirty first at eleven thirty three am and I don't see any resume evil news what worries me it's already September first in many other places of the world. So you know what that tells me is a knock getting my resident evil news today Andrea. was that mean probably nothing? It just means maybe something slip between the cracks life is hard right now there's a Lotta Shit going on I understand Democ Yoga makes everything harder. It does but I guess that's just a nice little a little reminder that if you don't have your assets ready, don't don't don't promise a specific date because sometimes you don't hit but I think like I said real talk we understand right now it's really hard. It's all good I'm really not angry I'm just a fan and I would have liked to have some news, but it happened I. Feel You well I'm sorry Brit. It'll happen. It'll happen to it just makes it just makes the hype build a little bit more when you get there then you have more hype corks about to burst already I'll try to take a little bit more hype it. We'll see we'll see how shut reckon we'll go we'll get you a wire cage like you're a bottle of champagne and then we'll just crank the wire cage down to hold the cork in. Kind of turned on right now. That's a real thing. You open a bottle of champagne. It's got the wire cage on it. Bala Champagne before. Honestly I don't know. Yes. Yes come on you must've I have firm. like a couple of months ago I think was actually when I was doing, Zombie Anyway. Okay. Well, cool. Wire cages in popping corks. Cool. Got It. There you go. Bro We have just a couple of delays that I wanted to mention as well. So Chivalry to got delayed until twenty, twenty one if you guys missed that news, it completed six round of its Alpha stage and torn banner studios has reassured fans that this delay will not impact the previously planned summer Beta. There is no specific date given but more information is going to be coming soon and the studio cited the pandemic and working from home as reasons why they weren't able to. Hit their previous release date also another delay Lego Star Wars the SKYWALKER SAGA has been delayed to Spring Twenty twenty one and they have confirmed that there will be playstation five in an xbox series x version of the game. So we saw a nice chunk of the skywalker saga opening night live but we noted that we didn't get a release date or release window which was kind of weird and then throughout the weekend the team was like, yes, the game has been delayed. You won't get it till spring. So that's quite a big delay for this game because I believe it was supposed to be launched a new console launch for this holiday but Again, it happens take your time take your time. All right well, that is going to wrap up our news. This is where we transitioned to you dear, WGC g well, we take your questions either about the news or just about life in general if you want to be part of the show, you can drop your questions in chat and we will do our best to keep eyes on them. But the best way is to games dot com slash dear WG G Brett what do we got I I one comes From findlay I don't really know if that's how you're supposed to surname but that's why I say it my head Finley, how do you plan to Tackle November Twenty Twenty Aka to create release onslaught which games Lee try enough I hear you most excited about I personally feel like I need a daily planner at this point especially with wow shadowlands lurking with no release date it does have a release date though October twenty seven. Yeah. This might have come before the the thing. So, Andrea I'm trample list of all the releases but we know of the big ones obviously have legion correct as legion coming out in Hobart homer nine believe Double Chin. Okay I'm. Pulling. Up. The. Release schedule from game informer dot. com I can't even keep Track Canyon at the end of October is crash bandicoot. It's about time star wars squadrons. Dirt Five Feet for twenty one age of Empires. Three definitive edition Nhl twenty-one in world of Warcraft Shadowlands Watchdogs Legion the Twenty Eighth Pittman three deluxe the dark pictures and theology little hope and then there's a bunch of other games as well. Those are just kind of like some of the bigger games that I picked out. So that's Tober and then November is Jurassic world evolution destiny to beyond light just dance twenty twenty one call of duty black ops, Cold War, kingdom hearts memory of melody. Melody of memory excuse me Yakuza dragon assassin's creed Khawla cyberpunk twenty, seventy, seven Oh. My God. Okay well. I think I'M GONNA have to obviously start with like real talk it depends on how great I'm assuming I'm hoping that we will get some reviews for some of these Games which means we'll probably get them in advance but assuming that that's not the case for sure obviously Yakuza like a dragon, we'll be my number one. I don't know though I doubt to finish that game in six days before cyberpunk twenty, seventy seven comes out. Those are very long games. Well, I think you can hold out hope that Sega's going to give you that code hopefully early since the Games already been out in the West or excuse me in Japan. So. Fingers crossed. I. Mean. My real concern is watchdogs. Legion is out on the twenty nine and that game is M- acid. It's just like Gosh and then destinies on the tenth of November, that's the first one, and then call of duty is just a couple of days. Later I feel like call of duty and the Dr Pictures Hope Those won't be I think it's a call eighty five and a half hours roughly for campaign. Yeah. Yup. So that'll be little. Hope another probably five to seven ish so we could pinch those ones off sooner. But yeah, when it comes down to watch on Legion and vol Khawla cyberpunk and Yakuza I. mean literally like that could take up the first half of twenty twenty one and we'll still be good. So that's yeah this is. Your who's GonNa play what how are we going to divide and conquer this? Conversation, it's going to be it's going to be brutal because I think we all WanNa play all three of those games I'm like Oh. Gosh. What do we do? We. Andrea you don't sleep I. Guess Not. I think the real trouble for me is going to be trying to balance destiny with all of those big RPG's. Because destinies is kind of live nature and how they roll out content means is going to be real real challenge. I'm going to be on the struggle bus everybody what a good problem to have though. True it's very true especially, since I'm probably not going to be traveling this might be the first time not traveling for the holidays since I've moved to California. Wow. Well, the first couple of years I lived here I couldn't afford to fly back because it was like the great recession and I was broke and didn't have any money and I was working I was I told my parents I was like I have to pick up every shift I can like I have to work over the holidays like I. Love You. I can't come home go home in January when when shifts are not as available. But. That was the time when I also got so deep into mass effect that I would play it until three or four o'clock in the morning because there was one black Friday I remember that I was up until like four am plane massive. And then I just turn my council often went shopping. Boss like the boss. That that's true. True story that happened because I was bartending. Went shopping that because that was before they moved black Friday to midnight on Thanksgiving and now of course, we have the egregious like noon on Thanksgiving opening times but I really hope that maybe pandemic will be the thing that reverts us back to be like Yo. Let's not open retail on the holiday like maybe we just don't do that that people don't have to feel obligated to compete against each other and they feel that they have to bring their. Employees in other words they're not going to be competitive. You know like, yeah this will be the year that we go back I. Hope. So I think it's gross that it is what it is at this da Jr it used to be something more fun and now it's like dope I have to bail out because I'm not going to leave my family at noon to get like a flat screen TV I. Have Some of you will no judgment but yeah. I I think it comes down to the final thing. This year I would hope especially the following year if something's GonNa make money. Andrea say no to the money who's going to say no, not I mean I will. Digress right. Next color me. Sorry. I get to spend the first Thanksgiving with my husband and seven years seven years together. That's so sad but also great at the same time. Oh I'm Somali. You guys finally get to have your holiday together. That's awesome. Saying an she does also mention that some places have already announced. So. That's good to know but next question. Donnie Gio soon or whatever brick calls me next real fuck you talk. I let me start by saying I'm a playstation dork through and through, but I feel a little slighted. So the September playstation plus games have been revealed street fighter five and pub g stick with me earlier this year farming simulator nineteen in the skyline where the Plus Games what do they have in common? They were already available for download on playstation. Now, my point being am I getting double dipped on my beloved Sony overlords is this fair practice? Is this allude to the conjunction of the services? I mean. it's Kinda nasty but being third different subscription services I. Guess. So Sony Sony. Sorry. Well I. You kind of just answered it very, very succinctly. Sony's gun has Sony. You think they care about you Donnie in Ono? There's no, there's no rhyme or reason generally speaking. Is really what the answer is but. Am I getting double dip down by my beloved Sony Overlords Mean Yeah Probably. IRA's different sub services in rip. All right. Next question from a different Danny Hey ladies. What's the oldest single player game? You find yourself going back to many years after first playing it I've been replaced craft three lately and having a blast holds upgrade for an eighteen year old game would love to hear what classics you find yourself going back to. I know br probably has a bunch in her catalog that she goes back to I very rarely go back and play gains the only one that I feel like I've gone back and played several times has been like, Super Mario World out because it's it's a classic and it's available on so many devices because Nintendo has made me by it so many times. Well, not made me. He didn't me this heist me to. Lay it again EILLY. Playing Donkey Kong country with my dad and that is always the classic oldies but goodies Super Mario World. is another one he unfortunately, he cannot handle the dual sticks dibley analog candor. He does not understand it. He just stares up and spins in circles or goes on the ground and I've tried inverting and whatnot and he just. So let's go back to the Super Nintendo classics which to me is not a bad thing they're still superfund. Personally, I also haven't gone back to a game in a long time and older game if I did it was generally oh, Corinna time with something I like to play at least once a year or so breath of fire three is another one I love to go back to the older harvest, Moon. Games are really nostalgic astronauts call used to be a thing. But now the only way you can play it is if you play it Yooglie. A good child I would never do that. Yeah. earthbound. Obviously he's another one. Yeah. So say like those ones I feel like Super Nintendo Games just tend not to age poorly yeah. The degree. Classic Gains this next one is just a warm and fuzzy and there are more questions in the docking. Okay. I will. I will have that way. Okay. I'm GonNa read a warm and fuzzy warm fuzzy circa. So this comes from Don. Thank you for adding the way to pronounce your name. No A LUCHINO ALUMINUM Showed me out on your games comstream stream also shops Zombie kills we see in chat who was there with us I'm a new patriarch Patriot and although I've been listening on spotify for quite some time, this was the only the third stream turned into live. I said hello and the chat and mentioned my frying Pan ex-fiancee when we saw the frying Pan, magic carp and the override trailer are streams go wild friends are saying something it made me feel welcome. Your community is amazing. I. Wish Peace in good health. Thank you done. Oh. Boy. It's just nice to get those little messages from time to time in our community is amazing and ninety nine percent of the time we know we don't have to deal with the bullshit everyone's very kind and respectful, and they know if they're not like they're going to get a band hammer to the face it's just the way we operate things around here. But sometimes you know we do see some negative feedback and it sometimes swear on us. So thank you. These kind comments really can just make our day. Yes especially when sometimes people go out of their way to say not nice things when you go out of your way to say something nice, it really means a lot. So we really appreciate that. Let's see here I was kind of digging into the archives of questions and because we have time for like one or two more at girl. Kindness is contagious Zombie amen to that also there's Shattering breaking news the Ninja Skin is the new fall guys skin oh yeah. Okay let me pull up. Let me pull the fog is twitter account. Here we go after. After almost two weeks fall guys charity auction for a new skin has ended in a joint donation of one million between G to East sports aim lab in Streamers Ninja and Mr Beast has one. Wow, that's awesome. Amazing. Congrats to all those. All those people I see on the here, I can show you on the. On their account it looks like they don't have a specific. Wow I wonder how they're going to if they're gonNA put all four of them in there are no. So that's the to sports one that they have. And and I think I have to go and try to find Ninjas Gimme a second AC- because I thought Ninjas was really cool in a trend is see yeah will we'll find out how that's GonNa look us. So this means fall guys will create a skin based Mr Bee's aim Lavaggi to sports respectively. Find this way. So I wonder if they're going to combine them all like you said of worship is going to be. Four different ones that's fun I feel like for a million dollars that they can do for skins I, mean I kind of like to see a mash up abomination and see what that turn out to be. But you know get creative like it's a little bit of colors from from everybody. Is that what you think it like green hair whatever hair Ninja, whatever color blue he's got blue area I'm not cool and hip. Hop of this. Okay here's here's another another a look at the the Ninja one. So we've got. So this is crowns should be able in the palms of those Kook. Sorry Krause should be held on the palms of those who continued to do good. We've teamed up with G TO SPORTS NINJA AND MR beach For Charity. Okay, so those are the four. Okay. What's This Ninja, right. So this is GTE's sports dismissed rubies. No discipline was to be no this aim. Sorry this is. THEM AIM lab here, and this is Mr Easter. I just want a fall guys with like our face on it like face like that just like a little like. Janki ask cut. Out Face like. Put that on a fall guy just run around the like it would be fun. Zombie says skin to look like one million dollars is only. About. Prices that is not a one million dollar design. I wonder how much they're going to charge for them in game if they're gonNA be like. They'RE GONNA go for crowns if they're just going to give them to everybody feels like you just give them away, right yeah. The money's going to charity feel like that's what you do. Yeah Danny Listen. No they they need a banana Andrea Rene skin for sure it feels like it's ready made for fall guys Andrea Rene is ready to Skin already I feel like there should be nothing I've seen, but I thought about pulling the Andrea costume out and doing a fog is stream. And maybe that can happen sometime I last year but speaking of fog is I forgot to mention that this Wednesday for my afternoon with Andrea, stream. Going to be streaming with none other than TRICIA. Planes fog is. TRICIA. She reached out and she was like one can we stream and I was like I don't know when you vailable and she was like, what are you doing Wednesday afternoon I was like Oh did you know I have a stream on Wednesdays but this will likely be the last Wednesday for the Stream and I will be moving the Stream I believe to Thursday nights is what I'm looking at. So off of Wednesday afternoons because sometimes with the production for the show just becomes a pretty long day. Amen Speaking of cool indies. Jess. Has a question says, Hi Ladies Often indie Games get swamped drowned out in the conversation by bigger releases. What are some Indie Games? You think didn't get a fair chance to shine due to being overshadowed by massive marketing from bigger games. I'll was question I don't remember. Yeah. No go ahead. Play something up. So I think I just have indies at the top of my head after spending time in the arena booth for the last couple of days and a game that came out earlier this year that I'm excited to play more of was veteran nome. So I actually introduced to this game by Melly who is disability blogger? And she was on the disability showcase with Steve Spun and I and Steve Hadn't really seen much of this game either, and so it's a rhythm of music based game in a has a ton of great accessibility options and because I was playing it via parcel check which is an online streaming service so that the people who are running the India Rita booth stream could have it. I was getting so much slag that I was struggling with the game and it was actually ironically a good way for us to showcase some of the accessibility settings about how you can. Turn the speed up and down they have a ton of colorblind accessibility options. They have a lot of visual cues for people who have. Hearing accessibility concerns, and so it was really cool speaking with George, from the team at vector nome. So if you guys missed that game really highly encourage you to check it out. I was much more successful when we played it on the local computer here on our stream later in the day, would you guys can check the? Here on twitter channel but that's a really cool game that I want to spend more time with. But there was just so many beautiful indies in the inside the booth that often get overlooked for AAA releases. Yeah I feel like that's just a really common problem obviously, and right now I feel like we're kind of I mean I'm working on wasteland three and some other some of their games will be coming out soon, the should be getting review copies for but right now I like it because I'm kind of able to juggle some games that I normally wouldn't it. So right and I played a short hike for example, currently planes spirit fair plain struggling all three really really cute. Mocking, the struggling Q- It's probably one of the most grotesque games I've ever played but you're like literally like a flush abomination monster and it's hilarious. But the I appreciate these downtimes because there are so many games that just don't get enough highlight. So I always like being able to talk about those honor show whenever I get the chance because there are some gems other also people look into struggling Indra look into struggling one of these as you and I will have to do a stream of it. Yeah. Probably, we'll probably hate each other by the end of it but I mean comes along with it we'll make up it'll be fine. Yeah no I'm down I think that I think it'll be fun. There's certainly a ton of games that I want to check out. We also have coming up. Best friends forever. Yes so much to play a little time. I, still need. To play that tonight like there's so much. But yet the that's on my to do list for for this week for the show as well because we want to talk a little bit about it. But as we mentioned on the Friday, show will not be doing this boiler cast until all of the episodes are out. So don't worry we won't be doing anything spoiler related to tell me why but you guys know that we love doing spoiler casts for Narrative Games when we can especially stuff from don't nod we've done lots of. There's in the past. So excited to do tell me why spoiler cast as well but I think that's probably going to do it for the show for today. 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Red Dead Online Battle Royale Arrives - Kinda Funny Games Daily 01.10.19

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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Red Dead Online Battle Royale Arrives - Kinda Funny Games Daily 01.10.19

"They. What's good? And a welcome to kinda funny gains daily for Thursday January eleventh. No, it's January tenth. I'm already wanting it to be Friday on this first full week back in the office. Welcome everybody. I'm Andrea Rene joined by friend. What is Chris Macher for you? I don't even remember yet think we're working on it still haven't do. You know, what it is? We gotta pick one the hair. Fran Mirabella probably says something about that. That's not the hair. You have really great. Hey best friends. Thank you. I appreciate that. You also have great hair. So I think it's a trusted compliment. This is an exciting gay friend. Not only are you now part of the amazing team here at kind of funny, but we are hosting our very first episode of games together special. I want a little fist bump. Yeah. There. And this is going to be fun because I love you have such a deep background in energy and video game news. So I think it's going to make for some really great discussion. And of course, as a tweeted earlier this morning, you know, we're gonna be talking about destiny at some point. It's actually in the news today. But before we get to that we do have a couple other things to talk about. Of course, this is kind of funny games. Daily your source for video game news and everything else under the video game son or whatever Greg says, I don't remember right now, you can watch us live on twitch dot TV slash kind of funny games. If you're watching live, we asked you to please help us kindly by keeping us on us and going to kind of dot com slash your wrong. If you want to be part of the show you can head to patriots. Com slash kind of any games. Joined that bronze tier and you can submit your questions, your squad up user names, your deals of the day and pretty much anything that comes across. You know, your your brain that you want us to talk about and we will look at them. 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Yeah. Now, he's a good kid. Not here. We can talk trash about. I don't wanna talk trash about him. He's just he's just a little green. That's all he's new Hiller. It'll be great. I item on the report red dead. Online beta announces battle royale mode rockstar sent out a press release this morning that stated read online will stay in beta for few more months yet as we have many more new gameplay features to add across the board as well. As further changes to improve stabilize and refine the overall experience today's updates of the red debt online beta introduces gun rush where you'll put your survival instincts to the tests gathering weapons and amunition while the play area shrinks in this new mode for up to thirty two players available to play now in free for all and team variations where the last one standing wins. More updates coming soon including new races. And showdown mouths and new clothing and emotes Walsum additional changes based on player feedback, including daily challenges which tackle new challenges each day covering every aspect of the game from sharpshooting to evade in the law law and bounty upgrade some changes are coming to the way that law about body systems work and read that online to reduce the enticements for grieving soon players will get a bounty for committing crimes, and we'll be incentivized to pay them off within a lot of time way too long and bounty hunters from each of the states will track the player force in them to either pay up or escape parlay changes were making the system easier to trigger so that you can avoid aggressive players more quickly. In addition, it will be easier to trigger feuds posse feuds and leader fuse to take on tacking players in structured competition proximity based player blips player location. Blips will soon appear only over short distances reducing the range of which you are visible to others. Decreasing the likelihood of being targeted by another player across large areas down the line. Also look into introduce the ability to identify player to grief and kill indiscriminately with a. Aggressively darkening blip that becomes more visible at a long rage. So everyone in a session can identify potentially dangerous opponents at a glance and from a safe distance. And they also talked about some of their future plans saying we are working a lots of new content that will be releasing this year just a few of those updates that are in the works include all new missions to build on your story in a land of opportunity from previously established characters like Horley, and Jessica Leclerc, a range of dynamic events throughout the world. Lots of new competitive modes including new showdown modes and races, plus new weapons and clothing. Lots more that we're not quite ready to announce yet. And then they also tacked on the Xbox One players can now access the red chestnut Arabian horse, the alligator skin ranch cutter saddle and the high roller double action revolver in the red dead on my beta, I believe those were police station exclusive as part of marketing deal they did. But now they are able so before we dive into that Elijah Miller has wrote in and ask what's good insurance? Ran the time has come and read dead has battle royale mode. Does this tickle anyone's fancy my? Fancy definitely isn't tickled. But read online isn't for me. Thanks. I love what's good content. Kiva coming. I think you'll fancy tickle rating. How tickled are you? Fran tickled. I'm glad that Elijah Miller said the words battery out wasn't explicitly. I guess in the press release. No, I added the words about ROY out in the headline because it's very clearly that around. Yeah. But I don't I don't know if they hit said it or I don't think they did. Now. Why would they don't because? Bandwagon. Jumper makes the investors happy. But that's what it is. And I call it the arty r Biard GR that's the battery Al gun rush. All right. That's our our PR GR always here for the acronyms. But it's here. Now, you got it use it and in some form of a tweet. Anyway, I'm excited. I already R G R B R, say whatever you want. Gonna make great hashtags. But I'm excited on the premise of. I'm glad they're exploring it a little less excited on played read data a lot of it. I've not played online. But I've watched and it happens to us the same control system. So like sharp shooting. I get like weird battery acetates in my mouth where I just I do not like the controls in that game. I was watching someone playing the team variation today. And like you get one of those crappy snipers and get it. It's old west not supposed to be great. And it's just like basic aiming is terrible. Yeah. Right now, I'm looking forward to hopefully, it comes to PC or something. But I don't know if I like it as user online that being said, I've not played online. I do wanna disclaim. I'm not naysayers going online because I like a lot about so glad they're exploring it. Well, I have played a little bit of red dead online. And I found it frustrating from a variety of perspectives. So these changes are actually really. Welcomed pages the one that I think is particularly the best for me as a player as proximity bass player blips because the green is real in any online game. And it's particularly bad right now and read that online because when you're in the game world, you can see all the other players on the map. So you can't really escape from somebody. Who's greasing you unless you quit out of the game. And join new instance, which well, I mean, here's the thing though that they you can put your white flag up at camp. But they can just wait for you outside your camp. So you leave you know, it's it's a beta. Yeah. Obviously, it's a beta we know that a PC version of red dead redemption to is in the works, and we'll probably release at some point in two thousand nineteen would be my guess, I would think midyear two later in the year if we can kind of look at what they've done in the past. I mean, don't forget red dead redemption never came to PC. But given everything they did with GTE five and GTI online specifically it would be silly. For rockstar to not release red dead to on. So I think that's coming. It's definitely in the works. But I don't know if these changes are enough to get people back into the online space for the reason, you mentioned that the combat is just not as fun as GTE online combat is such a heavy exploration game for those of us that have played it. I think at the end it is about the the smell and the feel of it when I get into engage. I kind of like some of the quick draw auto targeting written tuten in town shooting stuff, but even then I get a little frustrated. So since you've played some I mean, what is the mode that people were playing before consist of I know, you were getting some money, and, but you you can like run into people and choose to battle them or not is that what it was like what the parlay system is. Yes. So you can it's not as obvious as what they GTI online. And obviously, you know, GTE online evolved quite a bit. Over the years that it's been out. And I remember it was also had its fair share problems at launch. And you know, they patched it and passion patched now have a very consistent content. Release schedule that appeases the community that still there. I think really the key differences here is that the open world in red dead is just inherently different than the world of GTA. And there's more to do GTE. I think it's just being in an urban environment with vehicles is inherently more exciting. But we also just for you guys to know I want to make it sound like we're just kind of crappy over run. We actually talked about it on the games cast this week, which you guys can check out tomorrow Friday at six AM and Monday for patriots. Fred at six AM and Monday, six am on YouTube. Right. Kevin pitshop Fran. Games. So you guys can check out our conversation about the campaign over there. But I mean, this is good. I think what we've talked about is that if you're really excited you diehard red fan gopher jump in fun. But just keep in mind that it's a beta, and they're still tinkering, and there's work to be done funnily enough, I was planning on right after I finally beat it. And so close I'm going to hop in online and check it out. So I I am excited to check it out the world is really lush and beautiful and controls aside. I think there's some neat stuff that can happen. But that's why I don't know what people do enjoy online. It'd be curious what they like most about it. But it's still very early. You know, it's still in beta guess, we'll see. Yeah. Exactly. Well, next item on the Roper report. The academy of interactive arts and sciences have announced the dice awards twenty nineteen nominations. Fifty six of the most exciting games on twenty eight teen received a nomination God of. War leads with twelve total nominations followed by AAA blockbuster hits Marvel's spider man with eleven red dead redemption two with eight indeed title return of the overdone with six nods time with four nominations, including Astra Bhatt rescue mission, Detroit, become human Florence and into the breach while assassin's creed odyssey and moss each received three finalists for the top honour game of the year are God of war into the breach. Marvel Spiderman red redemption to and return of the overdone the winners will be revealed at the dice awards ceremony on Wednesday February thirteenth at the aria resort hotel in Las Vegas co host for the third year by kind of find his own Greg Miller and just show about of nervous news honored this year as the hall of fame recipient will be Bonnie Ross Microsoft corporate vice president and head of three four three industries ceremony. But once again, we live strain in its entirety beginning to eight PM Pacific time, the multiyear media partner, I g entertainment you can find the fullest of non. I need over at interactive dot org, which is the AS website. I'm in for people who are curious the academy's thirty thousand plus members comprise of interactive publishing development communities, recognize excellence in twenty three different interactive game categories and one of the highest forms of recognition in the industry titles were played evaluated by members of the academy's peer panels to determine final nominees, and these panels these panels one for each ward category comprised of the game industry's most, experienced and talented men and women who are experts in their chosen fields winners are determined as part of confidential voting process and will be revealed the evening of the show. I think it's always kind of good to get the information about how these nominees are picked and how the winners are chosen especially in light of some other game shows a game show game award show. That's what I'm looking to say like that farce of an award show that was on CBS. Oh, yeah. I didn't even really catch that. But yeah, these are the. That's for the best friend. It was a hot tire fire. The I always forget this. But the Golden Globes are peers is that right or is now, which is the peer the pier. One of the saga wards. That's right. And the Academy Awards are technically peer voted to. Golden globes. Are are critics Hollywood's more impressive socio Oscars is pure, but it's a quick to that. That's what they're trying to keep the official people who make games or involved in it voting on them versus it just being the press, right or a fan or fans. Exactly. Right. Exactly. I thought you know, one interesting thing to think about is. You know, what was the biggest game? Would you say of twenty the biggest the biggest game was in arguably fortnight? That's right. So it not on the list because it came out the year before correct persistent online. I think it's still an interesting category to figure out they did have an online category. I think it's interesting destinies on the list because it is the love it or hate it. The it is a huge online game. But I'm pretty sure. So by the quickly scandalous right now, just four night is on sorry. It is an online game of the take it back. It's just not nominated for game of the category. Maybe we can take a look at. I do think it's interesting for game of the year specifically that how they differ from what the game awards were. So return of the overdone getting a big nod here and into the breach. Also getting big nod. I'm a little disappointed. Celeste didn't make it into the game of the year category. Because it's one of my personal favorites from last year. But I've also heard fantastic things about those other two games. One of the other more fan favourite categories outstanding achievement in character. So we've got Cassandra from Hassans creed odyssey. Trae us from God of war credos from God of war. Peter Parker spider man for marvel Spiderman and Arthur Morgan from redemption to that's going to be a really tough category because any of those characters could win. So that's that's really fantastic any of these other categories stand or speak to you. Fran. I mean, they all do. I don't know if we want to drag on the topic too long. But we've got some time where I was originally going with it. It's interesting that so it's good for head. Is it online almost had report me? But it's not algebra for other categories. Although it has significantly updated an added and done these huge online, and I'm not saying, by the way to shouldn't it just strikes me every year. The last several years is interesting that there's these really big games like destiny or whatever you're only eligible for online because there's not a destiny three right? Might be kind of. I mean, you aren't are. But meaning is where it gets a little gray. Don't you think like we still as an industry face? There's these persistent growing experiences. Forsaking did come out. I mean, it was eligible. But what I mean as you kind of fall under the radar because it's a, you know, it's an add on almost. I mean, that's how I look at it. Like, I feel like it gets a little overlooked in some ways because it's not destiny three. I'm not this isn't about destiny other games. Go through this four night like season six and seven everything are pretty big in terms of. Just games like what are meeting? The example would be it's shooter or action game. Whatever you want it to be. It's not really gonna get put in those categories because that was last year. How do you think do you think it's a pro straight that because it's persistent versus brand new even though the gameplay stands up. That's what I'm getting at GameBoy hasn't changed in everybody. Still loves it bursts other new games, but it's not really going to be part of that category. Because well it was last year. Well, you know what I mean? I know what you mean. I don't necessarily think that games a services are automated discounted because their release model is different than a traditional retail release. What tends to happen is that games as live services generally have very niche audiences, and they don't tend to speak to a wide variety of gamers because in order to be successful. In a lot of games of service games. You have to play them consistently over and over again. 'cause otherwise you kinda. Get left behind and the content. Anything for a fortnight really excels is because it's a protocol to so many different types of gamers, but if you think about other games in that category like destiny like four honor like a pub g or even again, a more traditional game like a more traditional Emma style. Those have very individual audiences a of people who play games, and when you look at the development community people who are making video games. They probably don't have as much time as fans do or people who have other jobs to commit to playing games a services to that accent. So maybe it's not the top of their mind to nominate in those categories. Yeah. And it was really just illustrate it's tough. You know, I think about like division was a good example now fixed itself within the same year. But it kinda came out it wasn't broken anything, but thin, and then it really came out and rebalance and man people are like now you should play division. But imagine that that was on the cusp of the year. And that's kind of what I mean, if if it happened at the city end of twenty eight going into twenty nineteen. Tends to be will, you know, it's overlooked or whatever for the next year. But. You know, part of it you gotta look at. And I know why are you gonna make room for all these new games? And there's a lot happening. But it's just an interesting place to be when you think let's say they revamped they fixed all the sound effects. They added a new character. It just tends to be a little less top of mind for some of these categories. I do think it's interesting that the categories and online game of the year include a game called laser league, which I've never played an include CFC's, we've got Seve's laser league red redemption to which by the way, still in beta I think that's that's crazy that red got a nod and online game of the year fortnight and destiny two four nine destiny to of course, they've been mainstays in the online category for the last fortnight since his came up destiny. Really senses released has been in this category. The idea that red dead is in there with their with their beta like, I've already expressed my my opinions about games that aren't fully out being in some of these categories, but I'm trying to get over that because happening more and more. But that game is not ready to be nominated. They have activity issues. Those are sirens on our end, by the way, every time home me trying to get into a posse with with Britain simul is like a really much more difficult than it ever. Should be insane and posse like the matchmaking still needs some work. There's just too many issues for that game to be not. Where's a game? Like, call of duty black ops four. How is that missing? Yeah. In canada. I was going to if I just said pick a better online game that we took a second. I mean, even as much as I gripe about smash brothers like I'm pretty sure gonna played reading online about a watch them. Pretty sure I would enjoy smash what's absolutely called duty blackout or even just call duty period. So there's a lot going. I don't know how that one got in there as that. But it is the peace and that it does that's the point. These are. I mean, it's the industry, and this is what they're they think is interesting. Yeah. Now might have just been they didn't have enough time to play all this other stuff. But we all go through that. Yeah. I mean, I think the concept of read it online in the technology behind what they're trying to do is absolutely noteworthy in worth recognition. I just don't think they've executed on that vision quite yet. And I think it would have a better place for red dead online in this category at the dice words twenty twenty. But that's just that's just my two cents for all of you smash fans out there since you did bring it up. You will be happy to know that it did make the nominees for best fighting game of the year because it missed the cutoff date for the game awards. But because the dice awards are in February at snuck in there. So you'll be happy to know that. Smash fans in the peanut gallery. But yeah, if you guys want to check out all of the nominees and all of the categories again, interactive dot org is the web site and forget Greg is co hosting with miss Jessica job out on February thirteenth at eight PM Pacific time you guys doing to wash along. Maybe maybe of the of the dice awards. Why not eight PM on Thursday or on Wednesday? It's broadcast in in a couple places. We know it'll be I Jan it sounds like, and then the official AS actually twitch their official Takano channels so many actually destiny was nominated for the action category. Forsaken which I think is I know that we bring it up is really come to destiny fan, and I are hosting. Okay. Donkey Kong sixty four. Well, he's back that would be a hot sake if it were true. But it's not true. So the worst because the other so on informed. Them. I guess, but yeah, I was going back to what I said before it did make that category for Sekine. But there's so many good games out there. Now, it is crazy. And unfortunately, there's only it looks like about five slots per each of these main categories only so much someone's going to have to get cut. Yep. Third item on the Roper report. Bungee speaking of destiny caves after new destiny to puzzle stumps players. This is. Bisi? So this right up comes from Ryan Gilliam over on polygon. And he writes destiny Tu's newest puzzle has players completely stumped with destiny. His weekly reset on Tuesday came a new event known as niobe torment after players found their way to a previously hidden area of the easy location niobe labs, they discovered a multi tiered puzzle. Completing that puzzle would unlock the fourth and final forge and destiny twos. Black armory annual pass content after more than twenty four hours of attempts to solve the puzzle. Bungee has revealed that the Bergonzi forge will open Wednesday at two PM Pacific time, regardless of whether the puzzle is solved. So that was yesterday quote. Well, come together as a community to solve puzzles can be fun setting this puzzle up as a gate between you and new content that you want to play has not been an ideal experience said bungee as such we will be decoupling the puzzle from the final offering of the black armory all annual pass owners will be able to experience the Zia forge when the puzzle is solved. When the deadline expires, whichever happens. First the puzzle itself consists, a players standing in a room clearing away of enemies than punching a code into a wall after each code is input. More challenging wave called a bypass starts in a more complex puzzle on filled players have made it up to bypass level seven presumed to be the final bypass considering punches affinity for the number. Bungee has also revealed go shell in an emblem will be rewarded to the players who complete niobe, torment puzzle, successfully streamer and world force Reiter, X glad has been attempting to solve the puzzle for twenty seven hours straight. So this was yesterday. And looks continue the journey the change of heart or capitulation for bungee seems to come from fans complaining to the developer on Twitter who would have thought that happen. And while she spent the majority of Tuesday, encouraging people to try the puzzle for themselves on Twitter. It seems the internet voices were too loud for the studio to handle. So we've got a couple of questions about this. Fran and maybe just finish the setup yet do simply as because that's a lot to process if you don't play destiny. Yes. Here's kind of what happened is. I would describe it. You bought a season pass for about thirty bucks content releases? They said forges come out. So they stack releases of these new forges where you go, and you forge these new weapons by defeating enemies effectively. So you get this chance to explore new thing. And they said it will be out on January seventh. That's all they said they have a roadmap. They've actually been doing a killer job of telling us the roadmap. So he paid money on the seventh. Maybe I'm gonna take work off. Now, relating this to something that I've run into in the past with this stuff. And I think part of it is they're like, let's go the fans, and there's this crazy puzzle. I keep thinking that gif in. It's always sunny Philadelphia all of them that to all the it was it's nuts. I mean, even I was coding some of the glimpse based on somebody just made a little Kodak. So you could figure it out. But it's it's nuts. It was a barrier to the content that they said was coming on this week. So that was part of it is the fans are like I'm just here to play like, I don't I don't wanna do the puzzle on the other side, there is this puzzle thing, I think it's cooler trying it. And like the the thing is just went on way too long. That was the other side of it. It just is way too crazy and push came to shove. And there's a lot of reasons for it their stuff to do this week. And the people just could not get it done bungee. Basically, I don't know how they test the stuff, but we're way off in their estimates. Which I think they've been way off in their estimates lay because they overcorrected in trying to become super hardcore grinding again. And this went a step too far. And it's still not been salt. So sorry now, you almost answered Matt's question. Do you feel about the way bungee handled? Abruzzi afford puzzle issued. Did they make the puzzle too hard? Was it just kind of bad idea to have content? Locked behind the puzzle, and then Meco rights, and I often so excited have Fran on the show question that regards Destiny's decision to release the new four G, even though no one solve the niobe labs. Puzzled. Do you think the fact the bungie released puzzle, this heart will negatively affect the community in any way? Or do. You think them releasing the forged for annual pass holders has negated? The fact that they blocked the content behind an unsolvable puzzle, fixes everything. So you kind of answered Matt's question a little bit Mashego. I as I Blanchard already I will. 'cause I didn't really give my opinion. I don't think but well, I have the annual pass. But because I took so long getting up. I haven't even done the first four yet. So I just finally hit over light level. Six hundred can start doing the forges twenty thirty hours before you can even do this stuff. I know. So for me, I'm not as in upset about it as other people are. But hypothetically thinking if I if you were ready on Tuesday, I thought would you have felt if it was like, crazy puzzle? And by the way, you have to bring a team of three people in there, right and have him sit there to figure it out or you just have to wait for a full fire team. Yep. To solve it. I mean, we might find out later there's some way to do it. So, but for the most you have to have fired effect, everything I've seen the way it solved you have to actually get to about bypass three. But the ideas that this week you ready to play ready to go you want new content new year new you gonna play some destiny I'm trying to like set this up. But if you were in that state, honestly, just ready to play. Would you be like, no, I don't mind waiting. I think it's cool. There's a puzzle. That's one view like really cool. They did this crazy puzzle. Or are you in? Patient. You like what the heck I don't even wanna do this which side are you on? I don't generally like solving the puzzles and destiny on my own. In fact, I have never solved any of the destiny puzzles on my own. I rely heavily on the people that are in my clan and more importantly on the people who are pro destiny players who are concentrated on YouTube or a fulltime destiny streamers because those are the people who are so deeply connected to the game that they'll be able to solve it. I what's interesting is when I heard somebody explaining how to decode this puzzle. It made me think a little bit about some of the puzzles that are in ready player one. Like did you ever read that book? So the whole premise of ready player. One is no spoilers. No, the adventures Infinity moment for me. Right. I think gosh. It's basically like this guy has to solve these puzzles set by this multi-billionaire in order to to win his fortune in there, really like obtuse puzzles, and you have to study years of his life. And it's kind of like overlap like seventeen different than diagrams of figure out where it all. And so I was listening to somebody trying to work on this puzzle. And I was like why did I know why bungee did it right because they please everybody. And you can't that's the problem that's fair. And the the biggest complaints that. I saw about this. I think are valid are over ninety percent of the people who played destiny consistently who by the annual pass who beideal see packs who are there for the weekly reset are not people who are fulltime players, right? This is the same thing that you and I got into it about when I was on fire team chat about the raid and how high and Ohio difficult. It was to get into the rate at the beginning. And what it comes down to is if you're charging money for content, you shouldn't gate it artificially behind some kind of a wall that excludes the vast majority of people who have paid for it. I think it's a really fun eastern. Egg for the diehard fans to go and find that puzzle. But saying, hey, you can't get into the last four until that really crazy puzzle. A solved was obviously a misstep getting it comes down to number one just communication. They not said that it's even not even coming out. They shouldn't be talked about and just released it, and we found out there was this other forage, and I think it would have gone a little better. But instead, we were all told January seventh get ready. It is tied to there's other deeper stuff in the game. If like it's curse week. There's a special. It's called chatter thrown you can only do this week. So that's why by the way when you put it all together like crap if we don't let people do this. The week will expire you have to wait three weeks again to try to do there's this quest that continues after this. So anyway, my opinion is. Man. It's too long for this show number one. I do feel like I got to be careful with how say this because I'm a streamer, but I do feel like it's being designed for these fulltime streamers and yet which maybe that's more objective now. But I'm like it had really high success on twitch. But I feel like there's a bit of measurement of that Heyman. We were like number two on, you know, some of the top streams the other day because it was so crazy, but it was out of frustration. And also I would look at like did have the people coming back to play the content that had have people buying the game. You know? I hope they're looking at that. And not just stuff like this. But I get the feeling it's been a lot about their tired of the community feedback that it was too easy. They really overcorrected. Right. You know, these decisions were made, you know, months and months ago. So I just feel that that went too far with it. I really do commend them for on the one hand saying we just have to open this up. You can still go do the puzzle. But we're not gonna. Like stick our heels in and like because there are people up for thirty hours. And I think there's another side of it that I really think about him. I don't they I know it's data glads, and everyone's choice and my own if I want to sit there for five or thirty hours straight, and they made some good money on that day. That's your business part of that's cool. But the other side, it's like, I don't know, man. There's an ethical side they know people are going to try to do this and sale for forty hour. Like, I just don't like the design of it in that sense. I think there should be a game. You know, I think the real the one thing that they could have removed with was the reset within the puzzle itself. So God there needed to be a checkpoint. Yes. Right. So I think that was the toughest part. And I don't wanna go into the weeds of the puzzle is because a lot of you out there. Probably already have glazed over is. Because you're like, I don't care about just like Mario you to level one seven. You know, you always get reset to one trying to right, right? If you fail the end of one seven it's like back to one one. And you're like, I already did all that. Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. No. Like, a checkpoint system would have probably expedited it a lot more and made it more enjoyable because it's it's frustrating for any game that kind of punishes you for making one mistake and then throwing you really far back progression loot loop in. I think that's really part of why it's such a big misstep is that they didn't stop to think about the average destiny player who's going to be attempting this puzzle because I would like to think that with as much Destiny's I play, and I don't even play nearly much as you do that. I would be able to attempt to do this puzzle with my clan. But everything that I've read and watched makes me go. No that's not for me. That's that's kind of sad, you know, that I I've paid for this content. And if it makes me feel really excluded from it. Yeah. I appreciate that. They were really went deep, and there's for some fans, I think they they loved some of the things, but apparently got so convoluted people still understand why. But I tend to err. On the side of I wish that a lot more of it was like face value in the game like put things and puzzles in front of me, I was using words like Zeldin on chart. I know like I'm not saying make it those games. But those things have it's in the game. It's not the triumph that on locks Lor tab that I read that's a riddle wrapped in a 'nigma in a riddle. And that's where it's has gone. And it just it was too far. I wish it was puzzle mechanic based like imagine, it's you it's like the raid. Right figure out the mechanics. I don't like the side of like people were like getting into like Merlin's lore. They're looking up star constellation names. And quite honestly, we don't even know. But the truth is probably ruin it was right there in front of them. But it's so confusing. So has anybody has anybody salted as of right now? Do you know, I didn't double check this morning. But I had not heard checking I know, we know normally check the chat on this show. But if you wouldn't mind double check, right. And of course, you can't. Slash your wrong. He can't hear you. Never mind him. And I'm you kicking back. Can you tell bear walked away? Kevin. But then they unleashed another thing. Anyway, nobody has solved it. Yeah. Think the end of that. That was unfortunately, this type of stuff that people who don't play destiny here about and they're like, nah, it's really not. It's really not what the game is. It was just this thing that they did that was an experiment in some ways actually goes all the way back to wrath machine when they had done some binary code puzzles people really enjoyed that. But it was done much differently. And anyway, it's a little crazy. Well, hopefully, somebody will solve it at some point. But when is that going to be who knows, but what we do know Fran is what is coming out today. And if we wanted to find that out where would we go where the script bowl of Andrea? I mean, well, would you like me to tell you where the because this is the official lists of upcoming software across each and every platform as listed by the kind of funny games daily show host each and every weekday did it did did you did you do? Out today. Achidi bundle on switch at sundown on after charge on Xbox One. And b b cwm the block quest makers on switch bury me, my love is on switch Catherine classic is out on steam, just as a reminder, Catherine full-body still has no official release date in the west, but it is coming out on Valentine's Day in Japan. Combat core on switch double-cross is on switch. Everything is on switch. I played that weird. Radio on switch light seekers on switch mega wars desert ashes switch over driven reloaded special edition is also switch aunt snowboarding. The next phase is on switch. I talk about my experience with everything which is a game that has already been on councils and PC in the past and is more of an Arctic spearmint thought experiment than a video game on what's good games that comes up tomorrow's if you're interested in hearing me talk about my weird experience as a Palomino horse. You can check out the show. Tomorrow new dates band dynamic has announced it will hold an open beta weekend for their upcoming arena. Fighting game jump force starting January eighteenth through January twentieth. Open beta will give players access to the games online versus mode where they can play a seventeen characters from the final game battle across five stages and test out the online lobby using six. Preset avatars the open beta will be available for players who preloaded on their Xbox One. And PlayStation four beginning January seventeenth, though beta will be vailable for. Four three hour sessions across those dates if you want those specific details, of course, head on over to band coz website deals of the day. So warriors sixty four had tweeted that Catherine classic which I mentioned is out today. The digital deluxe edition on steam is fifteen ninety nine on. Void you with the code winter madness. Of course, he does use a filial links most of the time please give while you're sixty four some love and head on over to his tweet at warriors, sixty four on Twitter, if you wanna get Catherine on steam for that discount with that special code today's reader mail is brought to you by quip. The new year means new resolutions. We've got one you're working on twice every day. Fran. It's an oral health and with a quick electric toothbrush. Stick to good habits is simple friend. You've got nice teeth. Yeah. Thank you. Do you brush twice a day? 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We are into reader mail and as a friendly reminder because it's our first full week of all the brand new shows you're at kind of funny four point, oh, we are doing reader mail a little bit differently. This year, we want you to go to patriae dot com slash kind of funny games. Submit your questions and the first question we have is from professor woke. What's good? Andrea and welcome Fran. I'm an occasional fire team chat viewer excited for you and Android. I give destiny a little more representation on kinda funny shows in that spirit. I have been laid questions with anthem pose to challenge. Esty what are some lessons? You hope. They learn from it and expect to see in the former well number one, I would just say remember, I know you get by the way, but and some third person shooter. Destinies first person. I don't actually expect them to really feel and be this, but the expectations high as the only reason I bring it up try not to get your expectations too. That's like a destiny replacement or something or but that being said, I really think number one they gotta learn on communication, the expectation what you can do week and to that people will be ravenous. So what happens when we burn through the content. Have they learned that lesson? And do they have stuff waiting division went through the same thing? I know that's brought answer. But well, I have had the pleasure of plane anthem several times at different preview events leading up to launch which is next month. And it's very exciting to e three. And the whatever was just out that we owe the closed beta, which we can't talk about right, but I played I also played it. But we're not gonna talk about it. I can't talk about is the stuff that I played at an event like packs and three and other public events. So what's great about anthem? That it just is a different style. Gameplay as you mentioned the destiny is the way that they're weaving narrative into the game is just fundamentally different than the way the destiny does it. I'm really excited to see how they're going to incorporate that narrative long-term because you really kind of craft your own personal story that happens at four Tarsus. Whereas with destiny the story is everyone store. Everyone story is the same. Like, you're guarding doesn't have a unique story. This is bio- era. The choices you made in mass effect dragon ash, they affect the sort of what's happening. That's interesting to see this anthem. Exactly. And I'm just going to say that based on what I've seen so far from the bio ware customization stream that they did looks like the customization is going to be a much friendlier system than indefinite which makes me a little sad that bungee hasn't kind of come around to that yet. Exactly. But I also think it's worth noting that when I did a pre briefing with the bio our team ahead of the game awards when they release that new story trailer and then announce the. The VIP demo that's happening at the end of this month. They told us that they have they're working on content specifically for post launch. So they showed us a couple of things narrative things there's going to be like a new area that you can go they have like new missions and things lined up that are coming post long. So clearly thinking about it will it be enough remains to be seen because it's going to be difficult to compare the ravenous level of an online community for bio or game to an activision game. Well, really to a bungee game, obviously. But but like as far as the ability for them to kick content out quickly, obviously EA has a lot of systems in place to handle that from a back in marketing structure, but will buy our able to deliver. And there's no PB that we know of Colonel plans for time. What they said to me when we were doing the interviews was that they have heard people ask for it that they will consider it at some point in the future. But it's. Is not currently in the works. And it's not like there's not like a date in the future that they're going to be announcing it they're like, they're like, maybe we're not saying no to p but we're not saying yes to PB. I like sure if there was all the resource and talent in the world. Of course, it should have PD in it right now at launch. I think it's way more ambitious to to pull that off. I think they are doing the right thing to wait on that. Yes. A group is on the current PD. So when I wanna co up with Andrea we got stuff to do things to grind supersize making processes fluids. That's really the important part. Here is that they I would really love to see them not have any stumbles at launch and how to be really successful in fluid. Like, that's what I'm hoping for just jinxed them, you just jinxed. Just getting now was the number one choice on my list for the most anticipated games on the game geo destiny fans that are excited about that. It's Greg I think was division of grinding games. Van. The persistent online is really getting its hoax in the people this the last several years. Indeed. All right. Rachel has a question. She says now that epic is the flex some serious muscle with the Ubisoft announcement. They'll be putting the division two on the game store. Do you think vow will start to feel the pressure and turn to releasing a new installment of one of their amazing p's? I would love to see a new portal or new half life. However, I would love to see them. Release a longer more indepth VR experience. Thank you for always keeping me company during the long work hours. And raising my spirit's when times are rough Andrew and Fran. You both are superheroes. In my opinion. Thanks, rachel. I would love Puerto three that would make me incredibly happy. Yeah. I was is one of my top time while we're at it. Care less about half-life. Oh, don't careful now. And you're sure that ship has sailed sure way. Do you want to expound on that? That's going on the record. Yeah. No. That's that's okay. That's mic drop. I don't care about half line. I saw. Yeah. No. Anyway, different discussion. Of gamers, who don't even know what half life is because it's been that long. And during our games cast discussion, you're just mad because also collected half in his bullshit thing. He made which I'm not gonna spoil 'cause you guys should listen to it. It's really funny. But here's my thing. Like, I think valve is way overdue for publishing something. I don't think Doda artifact counts, I think that serves as a very niche audience, obviously, there's a monster Doda to audience, and we don't have current numbers on Doda artifact. If somebody does have those numbers, of course, the great place for dot com slash you're wrong. But they just need to give the people what they want whether that's left for dead three or its portal three. Either of those who gave maybe it's team fortress three. Something something different something new. I don't I don't necessarily know that the Ubisoft announcement or what's happening with the game store is going to push them into publishing. I think it might push them to change their revenues split model if they get enough people leaving, but as of right now, they know that they still have domination in the PC digital distribution space, and they're not going to budge until they really start to feel the pinch which I don't think will happen for probably like two to five years, quite honestly, I'd say a couple of quick things want. Wow. That is huge though that UB which has its own platform as well for buying play go straight through, but they're going with epic. That's a it's a ton of pressure for sure. But I mean, we live in a world with that super important. So I'm glad that healthy competition is happening. Steam is just a monster. But that's also why it's not going. Steam is suddenly, you know, we live in a world where on? Our phones, we don't even think about you use either the Google store or the app apple store. Probably. That's just the world. You live in doesn't matter on something like PC, you know, you can choose now. So like big deal and valve makes tons of money. So that's the one side, but I'm really glad the pressures there. And man, I'm epochs doing some interesting things in that space. The other thing I'd say though, is valve already said, actually, it's come back to development. I don't know if they have expanded on it. But last year, funnily enough, I was just pulling it up. So again, I don't know if it's been updated since then, but gave Newell was talked at an artifact conference or whatever. And he reiterated valves getting back into developing new games. And it's you know after talking about valves, focus on steam, and hardware, he described it as an investment in the future. So anyway, he already said again back to it. So it's not like this isn't part of the plan. I think maybe if you were to look at that. And rephrase the question is will disag- celebrate them getting something back out the door. Yeah. I think it will. I think it will be a slight catalyst, but they're already planning on it. Anyway. Thanks, rachel. I appreciate you. Register those questions or it looks like we had time for one more do any of these speak to you. Or do you want me to pick? I need to bring a laptop. I'm like tabbing between. Okay. So wait. Okay. How about this? How about this one? Try from Alex bliss from Minnesota with all the talk of days gone. The last of us potentially getting in the way, each other and cannibalizing each other and sales and often confused by no one ever mentions, the three Japanese dark souls esque games that we are getting all potentially this year Neo to has a twenty nineteen release dates occurred shadows die twice comes out and March twenty nineteen and on a previous episode some of the cave GD crew thinks that maybe goes Fukushima could potentially release this share am I taking crazy pills, or at least one of these games destined to fail because the industry confusion and fatigue. Love everything. You all do welcome to the party fan. So the funny because it started his last of us in days gone. About those is the souls style game cannibalize each other right easy answer for me. Absolutely. Not not a problem. Those fans are so hungry for those types of games, and they don't even all released at the same time right secures integrate spot. In fact, I think we saw people moving stuff around like the dark side or just came out. All the sudden when I think it was supposed to come out this year dark siders is not the style of game. Well, it is to it's much as I can action three his really gotten good. I mean, it's my so I know this because my brother is this fan. Okay. Nuts about it. And he plays. He's played dark souls every Neo everything over and over any can't get enough. And when he came out he's like, wow, it's like they copy dark souls three to a point now granted cheesy now that's just his purview. But I have washed. It is very heavy in the comet putting that aside. I don't think it's a problem because released as far parts, and then I guess it's not about last days gone. I'm still cut up. Those are I know the both got zombies and end of the world stuff. But there they don't even have release dates, and they won't cannibalize days gone. Does. Oh, it is out in April. Okay. Forgot so brands relaxed of us park to is the guy that we don't know it could have a surprise release this fall. But I think twenty twenty seems more reasonable space, but we talked about I had said previously on the show that I think it would be really a misstep if PlayStation released to zombie focus games in the same year, but maybe wouldn't be maybe they're servicing different audiences. Yeah. But I'm curious what you think maybe. But I don't think goes Shema will be lake dark souls. I know that now it's like secure. Oh, but ultimately, that's you got creators like infamous, you got ninja guided crit, you know, that's makes Neil stuff. Right. And then you've got the dark SaaS, folks. I think their styles are different enough. Not really gonna be a problem. But right. No, I agree. I think that they're going to be different types of games. I think the only I think maybe you could have an argument that Neo to and secure. Oh are going to maybe compete. Each other. But I don't think we we don't have a release eight for Neo to yet. Do we see? I didn't think we did because we were doing the twenty nine hundred just say twenty nineteen. I have it in front of me. So we'll find out if we're gonna go right into you're wrong right now because we did not get a squat up on the dock today. Don't forget you can send us your squad up requests to patriot conflict kinda funny games. And look for those January participation late with the squad up request. So the kind of funny best friends. I watch this episode catch me onto TV FM three. If you don't know if you wanna squat up Fran. The we have an amazing community of best friends out there, and they love playing video games. And they love coming to the aid of other best friends who need someone to help them in a video game. Oh, you whether you play on XBox, PlayStation or switch or PC or Lennox or whatever platform you play on. There's a best friend out there for you. That will help you play the online game that you need assistance with us. Gotta write us and tell us what you need help with the best friends will come to you. Awesome. So let's head on over to kind of dot com slash your wrong. Let's see sure we were wrong about something. But I've been catching them too. So this is this is. Guarding Andress common about Reddin online be nominated for an award. But still being in beta technically fort still in beta as well that is that is to note, however, four nights, not broken in beta WaKo WaKo. Sin chat Presider. Yes, you're right. It's funny because I don't have it in front of me. I don't know. Do they say, it's embedded? They say it's early access. Do they say it's in beta, I believe seiger, I believe battery Al beta and save the world is still in early access. But maybe I'm wrong right in. Maybe I'll read it by the end of the show. Kebab says PSA one of the new releases for today after charge is this week's party mode game and is available to you now at YouTube dot com such games. Thanks kebabs. Stead John it stead John app. I don't know how to say your name. I'm sorry says Sega ages outrun also came out on switch today. Thank you. Andrea five. Head says gator heap is also out on switch today. A new date from Zaire final fantasy Zaira actually pulled this up. And I just forgot to put in the dock. So thank you. Twelve zodiac age is coming to switch an Xbox One on April thirtieth. Also final fantasy ten ten to remastered are also coming to swish Xbox One on April sixteenth. Thank you for writing. That in literally the tab is open on my computer. I just forget. I did want to mention that. It you probably talk about in. Tomorrow's news resident evil the remake too is getting the demo starting on the eleventh. It's going through the I think the end of the month. It's a weird thirty minute demo thing look it up. But you'll probably talk about tomorrow's news as well. I don't know if you're here tomorrow. But I am here tomorrow. There you go a little hot tip for tomorrow. I'm serious about that game. And I think it meaning it is almost a release date for them. It's just a day away. Exactly. Next up from quip vibrates in me undies to watch as artificial sweeteners, such as sodium saccharin, unlike sugar sacra, doesn't promote decay you talking about xylitol natural type of sweetener known as sugar alcohol. It is there there is I guess it's an antibacterial as well though. I guess or is it? Yeah. I mean, I looked at up it said it was kebabs. I tell you why. Nobody I think it's all that. I read that if people chew gum was tall like but all day like a ton of eight you'll get like explosive diarrhea. I mean, you shouldn't be having any artificial products that. Indeed, a sweet sugar alcohol that zero calories and also prevents toots two cases. It doesn't break down into acidic. Bright products in your mouth. That's good science for science. I love I'm excuse me. The nanna biologist I mentioned left for dead three zero goat. Ruffles indra. It isn't called Doda artifacts. It's just artifact. Okay. Who will thanks? Lord of pony niobe labs came out on January eighth France at the seventh. Costly Dave's with you. Fuck have three the reason though, the re, but you are right. But I think the reason is I think on the map it was week of January seventh or something I might of made that up, but it is the week of. It's okay. Don't worry. I'm not. I was wrong. I don't we didn't know it was the tenth. When we started the show goat ruffle says the question about the three games cannibalizing each other was not in reference to them being like dark souls in terms of combat, but in the three games are all set in feudal, Japan and file spied world. Well, ruffles. I appreciate you writing that in. But that's not what the question said. So. So we're going to wrap Kevin I'm really at the end don't worry time. No. We're just at time right now. Kebabs says I can't find any current numbers. But apparently artifact has tanked in terms of player numbers. According to team spy according to the site yesterday. It had about four thousand concurrent players. Ex rainbow succeed ranked still invade us as an antibiotics I don't know what that has to do with anything. It was a nominated for front. And Nikolay by said, Catherine classic is available on steam today was the the deals of the day, you if you're going to write into your wrong, at least make sure it's factually, correct? I don't think that's asking to the dumpster fire that we inspire kind of funny. Oh, this is a watch that we try to make sure it's dumpster fire. But now we got up. But now, we really got a rat kind of Freddie, so much for for hosting the show with me today. This was a pleasure again, forget Fran and I are both on the games cast which comes out tomorrow patriot dot com. Such kind of funny games. If you wanna check that out or you can check it out at YouTube dot com. Such kind of any games on Monday and still then it's been our pleasure serve shake, my hand friend.

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"Under as boom as that base drops in which means, you know, it's time to begin in wherever you are whenever you are an however you happen to be listening. We're so glad you've chosen that union said D L C downloadable commentary for the week delivered the way we love it to be. And that is completely free things to our sponsors this week, Robin Hood and hellofresh. They're bringing the show to you. See, of course, the show all about games in their many forms games played on desktops, laptops, and consoles. Also games that involve dice luck and cardboard I'm your host Jeff Kenna spelled with two N's in one t-, and I'm joined as always by my friend slash co host slash nemesis. The guy who is always a showcase for the immortals, Mr. Christian Spicer. Hello christian. Hello. I was gonna at thought maybe you would still do final four something. So I was a little caught off guard. I was going to be like, you know, I would have liked. At all. But you know, wrestlemainia day resume Neha for me greater than sign. Final four. That's just messes me like wrestlemanias today as a recording tomorrow in this is out today as will recording Sunday. Yeah. We record on Sunday people probably listening to it on Monday. But yet wrestlemainia thirty five she'll be mortals assured finally older than I am. That is also not true. It's funny that it would not be older than you are. And then as years go by would get a new it's older than you. I start lying about my age wrestlemainia keeps getting older that says a lot. Hey, we got a lot of video game stuff to talk about this week. We have so many games to discuss there's big news. I mean, it has been just big Newsweek after big Newsweek, and this week is no exception. But the greatest news is that we have one of my favorite guests to do it with you know, the DLC always stands for your downloadable, NADA and your downloadable Christian. But this week I'm so excited because D L C stands for deciding between lots of content because in order to do that you need to know. What's good? And from what's good games, our friend? Andrea Rene is back with us injury. How are you doing AL? Let's good guys. Oh, you are just doing that intro was such gusto before it's like, you have an extra spike of energy today. Maybe I'm just I'm trying to salvage any energy. I can have for my my children. Are it's been an intense weekend. But I appreciate you saying that, hey, you're just back from world wind tour of the of the country. You went to to GV see you went to the Pax east. You've been playing games, you can do in panels. And we're so glad you rebel carve out time for us. But man what a coupla weeks, right? Yeah. It's been hectic, I'm glad to have a tiny little low hair before head back to LA for games beat some of that. Of course, you know, a ramping up towards e three two months away, which is wild to think about. Ansel our press conference this year. I don't know if you heard, but we're not we're not doing a big one this year. Brunette? Yeah. We're gonna be doing a series of Nintendo direct style events throughout the year, though, podcast like weekly. We were thinking with news trying something new. Oh, yeah. You know, I hear that weekly podcast thing is on the up and up tryin, hopefully catch on one of these days into it man, you say three and it just shiver runs down my spine because I it is going to be here so quickly, and I'm not I don't even have the bumper queued up. I couldn't even do the three bumper let alone the ready to go to meetings and see stuff. Before we even let's because we're on that topic. I know we have lots to talk about. But I'm just curious. What do you think about e three this year? Do you think it's going to feel a little less than with no Sony? I don't think that there is plenty of gaming content to go round. I'm really holding out hope that Google is going to swoop in with a really impressive stadia lineup and some partners and some thing to show because that technology obviously announced at GD just couple of weeks ago was really fascinating. But left us all with a bunch of questions. And there's clearly a big ping hole. Where PlayStation was now. I still think that PlayStations gonna do some announcements around GD C or sees me around e-3 some side play. Yeah. The second episode of state of play. But I just don't think obviously like on the show floor anywhere. But I think Eighthmen we're going to be great. We have a new console coming from XBox XBox maverick. Jerk talking about they're gonna come big this year. They're they're saying it's going to be one of the biggest years. So. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready to I'm not ready. I am very much not ready. But I'm excited. Now, some time to get ready. Don't worry feels like very little. I'm barely. I'm just trying to get my taxes done at this point. It's not it's I'm the last minute. That's. That's yeah. Attacked right now. I was like I'm literally crying out the IRS. All right. Let's let's not talking about taxes. Let's get into the show and start the way we always do with story of the week story gets the story on the week story week story of the week is the part of the show where we make our case for the most important stories that happened in the world of games this week. You can always submit stories for our consideration by sending us an Email the deal see feedback at gmaiLcom or by visiting our sub read it that's five by five DLC dot ready dot com coup folks out in that suburb encourage you to give it a shot submit stories talk about what we're talking about or anything gaming related. They're Andrew you our guest. She get first pick of stories. What would you consider to be your story of the week? Oh man last week was such a big one. It's kind of hard to pick. So I'm gonna pick the one that I'm most excited about even though it's very much hearsay in speculation. And did the division to reveal the next assassin's creed. I'm excited about this to somehow when I wasn't looking assassin's creed became my favorite game franchise, like all of a sudden happy to hear that love us carried. I didn't used to love us essence creed. But post odyssey I'm like this. Now, I wanna hear every bit of news. I'm ready with the next one. I'm so excited. I loved Odyssey's so much, and yeah, there's some slew thing that was done inside division. Two people found hints an image. That was sort of plastered on one of the walls in division. Two showed someone holding. One of the apples of Eden from from the secrete franchise, and it said some sort of Norse mythology reference some sort of Viking reference. And now a cock, oh is reporting that they have sort of independent anonymous confirmation from two sources saying it's going to be Viking town. It's code-named kingdom of Nutley. And we're gonna get it in twenty twenty. They've already Ubisoft that is has already mentioned that will be no new assassin's creed in twenty nineteen. So that's not too much surprised, but twenty twenty will come and it will be set in the land of the Vikings. What do you think about this? Andrea I think this is such a perfect fit for the assassin's creed franchise for a variety of reasons. First off they've made a very big emphasis on aquatic game play and naval mechanics and ship sailing over the last few assassins creates and the. Vikings are obviously known for their ships. So that is clue number one that this is a good fit. The second thing is I really love the way that the engine using a sausage. Crete handles can slap game play with a blade weapons. I really particularly enjoy the ranged weapons more of the gun type weapons that we got a few of the assassins crates like syndicate, and if for example, and so I think Viking era weapons would be fantastic in the combat that is create. And then Lastly, I really love the way that they've woven a lot of mythology into the last two assassins creed is both odyssey and origins and brought in more of this mystical sense. Obviously these essence crude franchises had that reference to to gods in mythology throughout the duration of the entire franchise. They really put an episode in these last two games. And I think with the incredible amount of information. Interest in Norse mythology not only from the thorn movies from the moral universe. But now, of course, getting a renewed interest from God of war which came out last year. I think this is a perfect time to bring back the appreciation for north mythology will interesting that you bring God of war. Because last time you were on this show. We gushing about God of war. And it was an awesome episode where we went in detail about that game. We all loved it was our game of year here on deal. See do you? Do it mine at yes. And deservedly so in his winning numerous of them all over the place. I mean, I feel like watching corey's Instagram or Twitter feed is just like he's on tour of accepting awards right now like after mother accepting whereas and deservedly, so, but do you think that it may feel a little meat to do you think it will be in the shadow of that game as a concern of it? Not feeling as I mean, because there's no other game set in ancient Greece like odyssey was or in, you know, in the in the in in ancient Egypt like origin was I feel like? Where of early God of war set. That's funny. That's funny. Okay. To shay. But I don't feel like those were as sort of butted up against this game. But I take your point Christian. Take your. Said that because there are obviously several games set in Egypt Enin ingrates. But to Jeff's point, they didn't they didn't have the robust game play offering that we found in the assassin's creed franchise, or the as well, I would say those games felt like I was exploring a part of history time period a million a look and feel that I had never really gotten to explore before. And I don't know if it'll feel quite the mutt. The we the reason I'm bringing this up is from my perspective. I'm really hoping they lean into sort of a different style of Viking. I hope it's more Viking than it is sort of north mythology. Like, you said Andrea, I love that the mythology stuff sort of peaks in in the assassin's creed franchise, but very much is like second or third layer down. You know, it's like you have to really search it out in it's special when you find it in. It's not a world of mythical creature. It's a world where there are hidden mythical creatures, but mostly what you're doing is not mythical stuff. And I feel like that version of Viking history where it really feels like you're exploring not the myths, not the Nordic myths. But like the the real history of what the Vikings did. I think that would be cool. Absolutely. It's interesting because I recently took a trip to Copenhagen in Denmark with my family, and we went to a museum there and they had an exhibit on Vikings. Unlike the life, the kind of day in the life of during that time period in that era from artifacts that were found from utensils people use, and how people dress, etc, etc. I think there's a lot to explore there to your point. And I think Ubisoft has such a commitment to historical accuracy, and really the educational mother. They put into honestly, I thought was fan. Tastic, and I look forward to them doing that more and adding more modes like that in their future franchises because there I pee TNT as such incredible extensive work making sure that they're being true to some of these really important historical points that it's it's an exciting prospect. So I'm I all for asan's Crete Vikings or all Hala or whatever they fell hall a good title, actually. Yeah. Just the accents alone based on hell did the accents in origins and odyssey. Like the got actors who really nailed that just the accents freight for Viking game alone will be a delight just appeared elect Christian. What is your take on on Viking assassin's creed? Yeah. I like it. I think it fits for what the franchise is doing. And you know, it's easy to picture God of war as the Viking game. But there's also other takes on it like two examples. I'll give I think playing in that world and vastly different ways would be held blade which also. Does north mythology and does not feel like God of war in my opinion? But still hasn't really cool combat but uses other parts of that. And then I believe the banner saga both one two or three of those games. I know the first game also inspired by Norse mythology and kind of the the art work in that game and also very different than hell blade or God of war. So I think there's room for the assassin's creed if occasion of Norse mythology and climbing through ice sounds really cool exploring of a cold frost environment. Lot of picture like for pelts that you're upgrading and total building new outfits. Really awesome. I think really I think as Andrea said their hand to hand combat. I think there's only gotten better between origins and odyssey. And I'm sure we'll continue to interrupt that like dual axes. Just sounds incredible to me. And then I'm hoping that there some mix. Of like breaking through ice and sailing kind of something like the idea of your on treacherous footing as you're kind of crossing a frozen lake or something like that. I think could be really compelling to and kind of how they they establish the world in your traverse over it. I I think there's a lot to like there. Yeah. I'm on that page to I'm very excited about this. As many hours as I spent two on beautiful Grecian beaches and watching sunsets against dappling sunlight on on water through the palm trees like to go from that to now as you're describing these frozen tundra Zain, I peaks in ice lakes, rivers adjutant that will be such a cool place to take this. This franchise I'm excited about I mean, I would be excited. I think any there are people saying it might be Rome. There. I predicted that it was gonna be futile Japan. But this seems like a really really cool place to take it. So hopefully, this is true. It sounds like it's a pretty solid rumor. So we'll see. Hangers crossed. Yeah. Christmas by sir. What is your story of the week? My story of the week has to be that you're buying lab. Oh, VR like. You can't not buy now full. So Mario little vignettes or little small. Mario odyssey levels are going to be available playable in lab VR in all Zelda breath, the wild for you, sir to say that VR would get you back into no-man's sky phone. They added it and here breath of the wild game that you never quite connected with we both kind of praise what it was doing. But it didn't quite grab you in the same way that a lot of other people now you can play the whole game in VR. You have no excuses. Yes. It's guard board VR strapped to your head. But you have to see Mike excuses. That'll be playing no men sky VR this whole time. All I possibly play. Both. This is huge. It's so bizarre to me. It's pretty crazy is pretty so we got so backing up a little bit. If you are a frequent listener of the show, you may remember that. I poop shockingly, I think I pooh-poohed the idea of a a lab of yard because I was worried it sounded like a really kinda crappy version of VR got a lot of emails and tweets during the New York preview week when people Andhra did you or anybody on your team get a chance to try out the lab VR because they were giving demos to people. I think in New York no did not get a chance to try. But I have read several previews that all said yoyo. This isn't supposed to look this. Good. What's going on? Yeah. That's the everybody sent me emails in tweets about how like guess guess, you're wrong. Jeff everybody's saying. It's great much better than it should be for what it is. And nothing could make me happier. I mean, okay. I don't want to rain on the. Hype parade. I talked about this at length. I was I reported this news on kind of fun games daily last week. And I think the idea of short mini Lavaux experiences are really cool the do to build it. And customize it neat. I think when they announce something like a full VR support for a game as intent in open big at the legend of all the of the wild. I take pause because I played that game for several hours at a time, and you have to hold the car board. This isn't like a soft padded more headset. We're talking Lucar cardboard style VR Lavaux to your face. So you're literally holding it up to your face the entire time. And. I cannot wear your hands. You know, like don't even know how that works. Boggles my mind with the joy cons attached. So traditional style. But instead of holding out in front of your face like at a good distance where you're may be putting your elbows on table, or it's it's at a nice angle you have to hold it up to your face. So you're holding the lab with the little lenses on the inside like physically holding to your face. I completely agree with you. Andrea I feel like somebody at Nintendo got my letters. But completely misinterpreted. Like, yes, if hey if you're going to do this do it rinds. Why are you waiting wasting our time with lab? Oh, like put out the thing. It's because eighty bucks anyway, put real thing. Like put on a plastic comfortable thing with straps that. I can put my head. Let's do if we're gonna do it. Don't don't like do it this way. I don't understand. I'm so excited that they're so. There are going to be built in many games with lab Lovie are that a lot of people who have played them say, they're they're pretty fun and interesting and effective and create a really cool VR experience. And that's great. And then they also said that Mario galax excuse me. Mario odyssey on switch will support some brief mini games as well. Specifically set in a seaside in the luncheon kingdom areas Nintendo describes these levels bite-sized. So that's makes sense to me. And then like, oh and also all of wild. It's like, so they clearly put some work into this. Why not support that work with actual hardware? That would be that you would wanna play through all breath of the wild with. You are saying exactly how I feel with the enthusiasm that I have as well because I loved breath the wild. I love the Mario franchise. The. The idea of being able to play a Super Mario brothers game in VR, and it's so perfectly suited to VR Super Mario Odyssey's like business. So great. But then when they're like, but it's cardboard and you have to hold it. And then they have the voters the press photos of these kids using one hand hold the VR where phase in one hand, they're holding joy con. I'm like, that's the most impractical thing of ever heard of in my life VR's already difficult to do even if you have the most comfortable headset, and you have it perfectly adjusted the idea that you have to physically hold it to your face. And then and then use another hand to do the inputs, and you're gonna do this for more than ten minutes at a clip. It's like, oh, Nintendo. You're so close to getting it, right? I mean for my breath of the wild experience I felt like frame rate dips in hand-held mode. And so what is this thing? Like again, the LeBow experiences and heard her great I could see how those run smoothly. I'm not sure how breath of the wild en- hand-held mode runs in don't you? Need ninety frames per second to make minimum the minimum anybody does comfortably. Supposedly in VR is sixty frames per second. Oculus shoots for ninety for alternate. For maximum of comfort. This is gonna be locked thirty Syrah at half what anybody else's minimum in VR is. Plus the VR resolution is going to be seven twenty by six forty per. I so pretty low resolution at very low frame rate for that amount of time in that kinda world. I just I shudder at anybody who for whom this is their first VR experience. Again, I haven't tr-. Had it. Maybe there's some intendo magic. I'm not aware of clearly some people who have played the short experiences already are coming away. Speaking very, positively of it, and I'm happy to hear that. But I just have so many reservations in worries about this. Because I wanted to be the thing that sells people on more robust interesting VR in a wanted to be the thing that sells Nintendo on jumping into this because having played something like astronaut rescue mission. I go intendo should be making VR games. So I just I I'm rooting for it. And I don't want it to be half asked and lame. You know, are you going to buy it? I have to write. I hope I want I want to play. And I'm hoping you're the one that I have to. Over with you. Yeah. Not right. I got it not gonna pretend that I'm not curious, right? Definitely want to know like what's going to happen. And what I really wanna see what these Mario experiences are going to be like because I think that's really what they could have something obviously playing Zelda India. It would be fun. But I think you Jeff has probably the resin VR expert of the three of us can attest that the best VR experiences are those that are specifically designed for VR and not just like an add on mode for another game true. Although I mean, there's plenty of add on modes that have been pretty good to, you know, like the the Star Wars battlefront deal VR on mode is pretty great, you know, the ad on. I don't mean as like an additional experience. I mean a game that they just made in VR like, let's take like skyro- in VR, for example. Like, I think playing skyer him on a regular console or PC is a superior. Dear experience planet in VR. I would agree in the sense that they had to retrofit. And this is your point they had to retrofit everything to work inside the control scheme of VR, and it's not ideal. If they had Bill Gates rescue mission, right rights. It's not if it built scarring from the ground up to work in VR. I think it would be a completely different kind of thing. So you're right. But also, you know, resin evil seven grade and borderlands two is pretty great. Are you know, there's there's ways to do it. But I'm very curious. I think Christian I will have to say that I'm probably going by this. Yes to settle maturity. So goes eighty bucks, I guess and an afternoon of cardboard crafting I'll help you with the crafting if you for over the money enough. All right, mice story of the week is I think we have to talk about this expose really in Kentucky Jason schreier who I've had many many conversations with about being on the. Show and his schedule is very difficult in our schedules. Very it's it's been it's been an ongoing thing with love to have him on. But man, he is just knocking it out of the park right now over on Kentucky just a great reporting week after week. He didn't something again this week publish an article actually too big articles. He posed one in the New York Times. I think times. Yeah. The the the one I wanna talk about specifically as the taco article about anthem and really more about bio aware in general and the culture of buyer wear it is a very long deep, well, researched expose into how anthem came to be the four to five year development process that resulted in the game, we got and how that sort of indicative of a culture by aware that. Can kind of explain the mass effect dramas of the world and the anthems and how these sort of tumultuous road to release of these games, and a burnout culture inside the studio at self has led to a lot of people, you know, leaving and having negative experiences there. It's a very deep detailed article. I highly recommend if you're listening to this to check it out. It's a free chapter of blood, sweat and pixels to like his fucking excellent. And this is could have straight up in a chapter on that book. It's yes nominal. We're not going to be able to do the article Justice in summarizing it because it's full of really interesting details, but for my money the reason I'm bringing it up as a story of the week. First of all, I'm very excited to get Andrew his take on this. Andrew really was was at ground zero for a lot of anthem. You know, Andrea. Hosted the a play at e-3 a lot of which has class toast best yet, they they couldn't top. So they had to stop. I know. All right. So yeah. I mean, you interview the devs there were part of the big reveal of that game. And so I'm sure you have a and you're a big via wear fan from for many years. So I'm sure to get your take. But there are three big takeaways that I'll just sort of queue this up the discussion up for for me. The first is an credit where credit is due Christian. Because you have brought this up on number of times I've been skeptical. But it sounds like frostbite is a big big problem for all of EA. It's a very problematic engine across the board. Which is interesting. Secondly, this idea of you know, how developers work how human beings are kind of treated crap crackly at a lot of developers. And you know, I've been advocate for unionization. But it sounds like, you know, this is a very deep problem that Casey Hudson has come out and said Israel and wants to address that's another big point in the third point. For me is I think the biggest that I'd like to talk about and that is so much of what we saw. And I think a lot in the in video game than people are very cynical and skeptical, and I'm one that has often given companies the benefit of the doubt. But so much of what we see is smoking mirrors. And that really seems like the case with anthem when we saw this big trailer at the I e three that it was shown the teaser that were closed Microsoft press conference. That that was thrown together at the last minute it the team itself didn't know that the game was going to be like that until they saw that trailer. And then they set out to make a game that would be that trailer instead of having that trailer via snippet of game that they were already making. So I know that's a lot in those are wide ranging topics. But it is a big article Andhra. What is your reaction your top reaction to all of this? My high level reaction is it's clear from anthems launch that there were lots of problems along the path to development of this game as somebody who was very excited. In fact, anthem was my most anticipated game of this year. I was let down and I'm not gonna miss words about that. I think that there is an incredible potential for anthem to make a fantastic comeback. We've seen several games. Do it over the last couple of years ahead of very rougher. Rocky start or maybe they were a good game at launched the sale to find an audience within fun. When later I think that there's hope for anthem to turn it around long remained committed Diablo destiny destiny to war frame, which is kind of pointed as. This girl's online. There are number of very Embiid examples. Yes. So I think that there's definitely potential because I think what they're doing with that game particularly with the flight mechanics, and your javelin is such a unique experience and by aware has the potential to make something good. So I wanna say that obviously Jeff gave my disclosures already that I worked with E A M on anthem related things specifically at Ye play last year. But I mean, the article is troubling, you know, and the thing that struck me about it wasn't. It was really not that surprised because this is a story we hear time and time again throughout the world of video game development by aware is not the only one to suffer from these problems. These types of problems are super prevalent. I think last year Rockstars moment. In the spotlight in this negative way about what was happening at that. Stratego kind of got pushed onto the rug because everybody was fawning over how great red dead to was. And now because anthem launch with issues people are highlighting the problems within by where a little bit more than maybe another studio would. But these are commonplace problems in creative workspace is not just in video games really at large. And I'm not saying that makes it ok in fact, it makes it not. Okay. I feel like it's a systemic problem that we need to figure out how to fix. Yeah. I agree. And and while said Christian, what is your take on this? I mean, I want to reinforce what you said is read the article, I think in it is lengthy, but get it on a computer and ipad don't start it on your phone, unless you're only what you have to read it. I to me, I think the thing that I am most concerned with was there was bio wears initial response, and they kind of levied a response before they even really had time to read the article in the response, I felt another come out after while. I guess an internal memos maybe leaked it seems like they're taking it a little more seriously. But I felt as if their initial response seemed to deflect and and not want to focus on the issue and understand from a PR perspective, you kind of need to. Do that your part of a big publicly traded company? But also, I think there's a better way that it could have been handled than than the kind of the way by aware went about it. And and I think the bigger issue is you've got to really look a look at yourself in the mirror and take time to listen to your employees, and the people that you value. You know, there's all these anecdotes that large companies have in creative houses and stuff like that. And it's like, you know, we are no good than are least valuable member. Everyone like, we wouldn't exist wasn't for you. We need all be all Bill each other up, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right for some of our parts, and I think you need to actually live by that. And not just have it as like a catchphrase that you high five each other with or something and really take time to listen to people's concerns and don't let passion be an excuse for of crappy workplace or bad work environment or toxic work environment. Because a lot of times. Passion will serve as the blanket to cover things. Because people wanna make great games. They really do. You know, they wanna make cool stuff. They wanna make the next by aware hit. They're gonna put up with stuff to be a part of this business in this industry that they love, but that can't be an excuse to keep doing bad things because people are willing to suffer through it. Yeah. Part of my takeaway. And maybe this is a little silver lining. But part of my take away from this article is it's kind of incredible that anthem is as good as it is based on how that game came to be. It sounds like the game. We played was really made in less than a year at this game was in you know, of five to six year development cycle where almost nothing was done. They're all these big conversations in lots of stops and starts and lots of aborted ideas, and you know, idealization conceptualization and all stuff was happening. But no game. And then all of a sudden it there was a a fake trailer fake, but a. Idealized trailer that was revealed in Okinawa making this, and then they made that in like twelve to eighteen months. Really the both of it was made in like ten months, and that is insane. The the the game is even as good as it is as fun as it is that the the flying field. I mean, they stuck the flying in at the last minute. It is remarkable. And shows the talent of the people at that studio. So there is I think kind of a a positive way to take that. And it's a shame that the game had to be rushed like that. And crunched and people had to give up so much of their lives in be worked to the bone their stress levels peaking to the point where they had to break down and take time off and all that stuff because they were so stressed out. All of that is really unfortunate in wrong, in my opinion shouldn't happen. But. It's an amazing. It's amazing that the game is is actually kind of fun. And I think you're right. Andrea that there's a chance for that thing to evolve into something cool. I'd like to ask you guys as people who cover this stuff and have done for a long time. Do we all need to be more cynical? I hate cynicism. And I fight against it all the time. But in looking at this in the face looking at the facts of what's happening when I was bouncing off the walls after that e three web two or three years ago when they showed anthem in their flying. And it was all seamless we were going in the water and coming out of the water and flying the clothes Microsoft show. And I was just like balancing off the walls and excitement about this game. And it wasn't a game. It wasn't a game. They couldn't make that with the tools that they had they had to make a different thing that was close. But it wasn't the game. They even wanted to make. How do you? How do we handle the fact that that is how games are announced marketed where no one is being up front with the fact they haven't built it yet. Andrew, what do you think? I mean, I feel like I'm trying to the whole time. You were setting the question. I was trying to get a grasp on what the question was how in got involved with it. I think you know, taking trailers that are displayed as announcement trailers the grain of salt is always a good call. But it's tough because I constantly find myself in this battle between wanting to give into the hype. And then always wanted to be realistic. And for me as an online personality who commentators on several shows. It's a it's a damned if I do, Dan if I don't like if I get excited, I'm down the hype train, then I'm not doing my due-diligence. But then if I'm too cynical, and I'm too critical than I'm just raiding on everybody's parade. And if there's no happy medium between like I'm super excited for this own. Gee, it looks amazing. I don't care if it's all CGI looks cool. Like, I don't know. They're never going to be able to make this work, and blah, blah, blah. It's a it's a tough spot to be in. I think that. Video game development is difficult and projects change the creative scope of projects change over time. And I think the audience just needs to manage their expectations better. I think this is something that the video game industry uniquely struggles within the entertainment media landscape at large like we don't get to see rough cuts of the avengers movie in take work at it in pre elva when they like are still working on the graphics affects haven't like fully put all the green screen and blue screen effects in yet. Right like girl marketing, they're not marketing avengers in game by you know, showing you a sections of the of the script that haven't been filmed yet and going this is a movie we're gonna make in there. And then later on they found out we had to rewrite that we had to pull that part out, and we could make so that's different. I think about video games, obviously, clearly not apples to apples, right, movies and video games are not the same type of media. They're very different. Wide variety of reasons. So don't get your panties in a bunch. If you're listening to this guy understand that these comparisons are not the same. But like my point is that it's a problem unique to video games because for as long as I've been covering video gains, which has been over ten years now part of the ongoing coverage pre release has been dependent on press. People getting hands on experiences in seen large chunks of the game to get their opinion on it. And I think that's what's really troublesome is like if the creative team decides. Hey that thing we showed the press. We actually have decided isn't going to be the best for the final vision of the game. And maybe we need to rewrite it or change the graphics. But then they get crucified for making that change while you misled us, you misrepresented what it was. It's like a really tough spot for developers to be in. It's a tough sell for developers stuff spot for the audience. It's it's tough spot for those of us that try to cover video games. It's unfortunate place to be. I think the the easiest solution. Or not solution. But thing that can help is don't Priore games. Just don't Priore games that may be can take a little bit of the stress and pressure off of it. Like, he just don't buy a game based on not being out yet. That's a helpful. But Christian do you have any solutions here? Do you have any concerns? What your take? Yeah. I feel like it's we need to shift. How we talk about things. And and for me personally what I try to do with things like this get excited about the thing. Whatever it is will use anthem as an example. But explain what you're excited about and say that you're excited about that trailer. Or if you go hands on with a demo build of the game. I think people talking about the game could say that what they liked about the just gonna make up a thing, you know, ink pen to demo was this that and the other and let people know that you're not playing the game. What you liked about the demo? You were playing was this that and the other and how it did this that and the other in you hope that they expand on this or dial this back and be honest and kind of transparent about the things you enjoyed what you wanna see more of knowing that it isn't the full game. You didn't get to play the full game and kind of talking about what? That experience was 'cause I think even with you know, CG fully rendered trailers. I think it can still get excited about I'll use Batman Arkham origins where that trailer of between Batman and who has desk stroke. It was just a pre rendered fight scene. But it was incredible right in his in the snow, and there I think in a shipping container train yards like that. And it's kind of saying, okay. This is the tone of what they're doing this. What I like about this? I like this take on death stroke, and you can get excited about what you are being given. And then extrapolate that to what you hope that means the final product will be. And then you're we're fortunate. I think said of being at a disadvantage, I think we are. I it's an advantage situation where we're able to then revisit that. When the final thing comes out and say, oh, you know, I was blown away by this, and it really captured the tone of this, and they did this right or on man when I was really excited about anthem was big seamless world in while the flying in the car. Combat is some of the best third person flying combat of ever experienced to me failed to live up to the expectations. I had of a big open seamless world with my friends. So if you're looking for good air to ground combat is going to be the game for you. If you're looking for a big open sandbox play, you know, maybe wait for the division to. And I think it's how we frame the conversations in things that we're doing experiencing we can really help our audiences instead of just hyping them for the finished product hype them up for the thing that we if you honestly our hyped by it for the thing we saw experienced and then revisit that later. I think that's exactly right. And that's exactly what I try to do. I can give you a comp concrete example, actually from the way back machine. I remember going to an event when bioshock infinite was coming out, and I was able to play the first hour or two I think of bioshock infinite, and I remember famously saying I think on on we could we? Firm the firm. Yeah. I I remember saying the the first the first hour of bioshock infinite is my game of the year. And then the game came out and a lot of people were disappointed by it on the whole. And I even had some things to say that were less than stellar. And some people are like, oh, man. You must be eating your words now eating crow, you feel stupid for saying that and I remember thinking and still believe now. No, I stand by what I said like that. If the game had continued apace like what I saw I thought the for the opening sequence to buy shock infant is one of the finest sequences of gameplay, I've I've ever experienced. It is incredible. The way they bring you into that world where the interest concepts and mysteries and some of the stuff that I got to play was amazing. And it didn't sustain kind of. It fell apart a little bit as it went on. And couldn't sustain over. I think the game is still very good. I don't think it was bad. But it it wasn't the level of that intro sequence. And I think that's exactly to the point of what you're saying Christian is I try to be completely honest about what my reaction to what I am seeing or playing at that time. And and I think that it's perfectly perfectly viable to reassess as you said and make new make new claims make new express new feelings about the thing that when you plant on the whole or when you find out more, and you get more. It's like saying, you know, the first two episodes of a television series are incredible. But oh my gosh. The last six didn't really live up. I think that's perfectly legitimate. And it is is not about. About trying to hype audience up, so they'll get revved up to buy something. And then pull the wool out from under their them. It is it is being honest about your moment to moment reaction with what you've experienced thus far. Here's here's maybe a reframing of this question. An inter love to get your take on it, as you know, to some extent, we are. Part of consumerism, right? We're talking about products that no one needs in their life. We all love them. But we're hyping into that that machine right of buying things. And so let's say we're covering things kind of the way we talked about. And then so anthem comes out. And it's whatever you think anthem is, you know, anywhere from a one to attend doesn't matter. What you think of it? But it's out. Now, the division to is next month, and it so it's still only been in that hype, you know, preview train area. Like how how can we best convey that stuff to listeners and consumers are how can people, you know, make that decision. I think that's where it gets interesting were so many of these games now are often very enjoyable experiences. Being in on the ground floor kind of being part of that zeitgeist of leveling up and experiencing these worlds. And so when one thing is out and fully realized and the other thing is still only in that hands on impression, I'm not saying priori division but mistaken effect a current purchase. Based on a future. Promise does that make sense at all. Yes. Certainly doesn't obviously by video games is an expensive hobby, and you should be discerning with your money. And I have said time and time again that if your money is very strictly budgeted, you shouldn't be really buying any games that launch. You should be waiting until you here initial impressions until day. One patches are released because the games just roams. Listen, the games just don't release fully baked anymore. Like, it's very very rare that a game is going to be shipped on a disk that doesn't have a day one patch. This just not the world of game development that we live in and the sooner that you accept that realization move on the happier. You'll be like this. Fighting had been like how could they ship a game? That's broken ago wasn't broken. They shipped today when patch. That's why I got so bent out of shape about the anthem reviews in that early PC released period because bio were shipped a patch and the game as it was just doesn't exist anymore. And so I I got upset that there were these multitude of reviews reviewing a game in it's not finished state that consumers can't play. And it's. That was good for about six days. You correct for about six days that game was hot garbage fire. And listen like they still has a lot of issues. We don't need to go into that at this moment for sure, but it's it's a tough place to be in. And the thing I always come back to the thing. I I want people to just hold onto remember as that this is a leisure activity. Video is a passion as a hobby is something you do on the side, or maybe you fulltime 'cause you're streamer. But let's not forget like video games are just that. They're a game their form of entertainment, and how people are getting so so upset in so angry on the internet over video game purchases. I'm like if this is really making your life. Terrible. You should stop buying video games. Then maybe I don't know what I'll tell you. It is it's yeah. It's easier. Throw your hands up and go yell sometime. Shits? Broken or bad? And that's just the way it is. Or you just stop making the purchase. I don't know. Jeff. What do I do know? You're right. It is. It is often a disproportionate response. A and and it's hard to look in the face of that and understand it. And I I get it. I mean, these are if you are passionate about a thing that passion runs deepen in expresses itself, sometimes in I guess, ugly ways, it's unfortunate. And I think it's worthwhile to take a breath and understand, you know, these things aren't end of the world. But it is also a bummer that we've gotten to this place where these products are evolving, and it's hard to take a snapshot and understand. I mean, it's hard reading this article in back to this topic at hand reading this article. It's the tragic takeaway is that there was a line in the sand where they said this game has to come out. You know, like it feels like it's great that they're going to continue to work on it in Patchett and things will change. Change. But it shouldn't be out yet. You know, this should be a twenty nineteen fall game or twenty twenty game. You know, if if the reality of how it was twenty nineteen there for a minute. But I think he means later twenty nine teen. I think that also what I would love for e eight start considering the idea of early access like all seventy six could have been saved. If Bethesda had just released it in early access said, yo this game's going to be broken. Which technically did I have. We're gonna be fixing it. We're going to be adding things. But know that this isn't the full release same with anthem if they'd said, hey, like, they're still a lot of ideas, we got in the can we it's not done yet. We wanna get it out there. So we can workshop with community. I just were in an era of transparency and vulnerability, and that's people are yearning for in seeking from these companies and from people at large, and for some reason, these big companies still are resisting the idea of just being open and honest with their consumers, I think that's really the root of the problem is that consumers who are paying money for product wanted to be a good product. The developers were making the product wanted to be a good product. And when it's not when he did the consumer the developers unhappy, we just hope that they would be able to have an open line of dialogue and be able to communicate that with each other with us just not the way the business works, and that's the bummer part. So well said a beautiful will leave it there that is that is I think a profound thing and one I hope lands with the the higher ups, I fear that people won't recognize that truce. But yet have you know, have the developer literally onstage with you. And say, oh, you know, I've had this vision for five years like behind the scenes, you know, they called it anthem because they couldn't get the rights to the name. They really wanted. And then somebody had to sort of retrofit story for why it's called it's like just don't front. You know, don't pretend that that. Everything is rosy impeach Kane. And you're making the thing you've always wanted. If that's not the case, the consumer will go on that journey with you. If you're as you said, transparent, open, honest, and I think that is the new currency certainly the currency of the internet is is often Tissot honesty, and I I think we're in an honesty crisis in this country, and it hopefully it turns around. But well, very well said Andrea on. That's why I'm so glad that you were here to have have that conversation with us. Let us though because we have a lot of games to talk about that we've actually been playing. 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Of DLC a free stock like apple Ford or sprint to help you build your portfolio. Sign up at DLC, podcast dot, Robin, Hood dot com. That's D L C, podcast dot, Robin, Hood dot com. Plan plan. Time to talk about the games that we are playing an Andrea my goodness you've been playing a lot you've been at GTC been at Pax east. So many great games to fill us in about one. I'd like to start with actually is the one I'm most curious about because I was not able to make mine meeting for this GD, and that is control. This is the new game from the people who've made some of my favorite games remedy. What did you think of your got hands on with it right of control? I did I got to play control in a behind closed. Joe's appointment and back in the game developers conference and got to have a nice lengthy chat with a couple members of the team from remedy entertainment as well the game from what I played looks really good. So far it controls pretty good. The the concept of the game. I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around. But I feel like that's remedy in a nutshell. It's just the scifi elements of it are so weird a little wacky that. I'm just kinda like wait what's going on in this world? So let me pull up my notes here. Just to kind of refresh me from everything and I have pretty extensive notes. I'll just give you a second to do that and say that I when I saw this game, and he three not hands on we just we just saw a, you know, a sort of a preview of it with somebody else playing. I came away really worried about this game because I'm a huge fan of remedy. I love the max Payne series. I love the Alan wake series. I root for them. And boy the game did not give good first impression to me. So I'm hoping having played it you came away a little more positive. I definitely was in the same boat as you that my first impressions weren't great. But now, they are definitely better. So good news. So for people who aren't familiar with this game you play as protagonist thing to Jesse Faden? She had a troubled hired troubled childhood discovered. This supernatural force called the his- which is kinda like the the dark energy of the world through some kind of weird ritual Zik process. She becomes the new director. Of this agency called the bureau because the previous director was killed don't know how. And so you kind of everything takes place in I think it's called the old house. It's it's a really kind of weird setup where you know, you're playing as as this this female character who's in charge of this division. But she doesn't really know what's happening inside. And there's all this weird supernatural stuff going on the house, moves and changes as you walk around it. Right. Right. So imagine if like the inside of an office building. So it's not actually like style like a house style. More like a office complex really big office building you're kind of walking through these atrium areas. And then you'll be more tight spaces like for cubicles are. And then you also visit this thing called the astral plane, which is another dimension that you go in and out of. So that's a whole nother style. Stick area to do some game plan. But at a tart, it's a third person like mystery adventure game that has some combat in it as well. But combat really isn't the focus of the game though, there is quite a bit of combat from from what I've seen so far. And there's two ways that you can engage in combat. So you have a specialty gun that has its own skill tree. And then you have the ability to levitated items and throw them at enemies, which is pretty cool. This Hooper natural powers that you have are are pretty fun. You can be running around the world. And there's a lot of verticality going up and down stairs in then you can also fly for lack of a better word g essentially levitating. So for example, let's have my gun in my right hand. And I can use my left hand too levitated a desk, and I can throw the desk. At an enemy, and then shoot an enemy with my with my right hand, which is pretty cool. And then if I'm gonna take it one step further I can jump into the air and levitated in the air and then pull like an office chair up while I'm in the air, then like smash down to people below me. It's it's pretty fun. So the idea of it I'm still trying to wrap my head around in like where am I going? What am I doing? What's the point of it all, but I really like the style of the game. So that whole idea obviously, the name of the game is control. So there's a lot of themes about being in control in losing control, both physical and psychological control. And that's like the kind of overarching theme in both the game play and the story. And so you're going to be visiting this history of what the bureau is. And the strange forces that the bureau deals with and the deep mystery that kind of encourages speculation among the audience, but also weaves in this scientific desire to understand these of the. Notes that I wrote down while I was watching the presentation. In. So for my demo. I noticed that there are there's a skill tree system that there's a, you know, interesting to Roussel system and destruction is a big part of the game. So you'll be able to tear down a lot of items throughout the environment. It reminded me of you know, there was a period in the sort of early two thousands. When physics was just like, the new big thing in games, and it felt like every game you're able to level Tate things with your mind and throw them around and feel kinda like a throwback to that. To me, we having fun with just a pure mechanics of moving stuff around your mind shooting stuff. And it was that layer fun or did it feel a little fashioned. Now, I I was having fun with it. I did write my notes the movement and abilities feel very matrix esque, right? Your old news. But that's a good point is I kind of feels like, oh while I'm in this weird world where I can kind of bend gravity. But is interesting though, that gravity was the one thing that they wanted to kind of ground in this world because there's a lot of. Liberties with certain like rules of physics and things like that. But you know, gravity was under those rules that they wanted to kind of fall back on which is which is great. But at the same time, it's. I mean now that you mention it like, maybe it could definitely be construed as feeling a little dated. I will say the graphics felt a little bit more dated than I would appreciate for. That's coming out in twenty nineteen especially from remedy who feels like they've always pushed pushed the boundary on that. Yeah. And I wanna be clear that this is a pre release Bill that I played this is not final code. And as it is with all pre-release, like it's very possible that they're going to polish it up, and it's gonna look a lot shinier and more smartly once the final code is released, but. I to me the hook of this game isn't the graphics isn't the game play. It's the story. That's what remedies known for inside think that that's hopefully going to hold this game through and I'm gonna fully bit. I had no desire interest in playing this game before I went to this demo and now afterwards, I'm like, okay? I wanna see what's going on here treed. So let's control. And it is coming out. I think what pretty soon right under the summer. Yeah. I think August twenty seventh. I'd have to look that up for sure. But what else do you have so many games that you've been playing? What else would you like to talk about? Sure. So let's talk about money. A one of the games. I really loved that. A lot of people haven't heard about his trove say's the universe. I had the absolute pleasure of working with Justin roiling, the co-creator of Rick and Morty and co-founder of squash games at Packie's hosted a comedy in games writing panel with him on the main stage, which was super fun. We had a lot of great guests. And this isn't the first time I got to play trophies. I should like the fourth time. I got to play trophy universe. And what love about this game? Is that not only is it really fun in PS VR virtual reality. But it also is available as a standard PS four game as well. In the comedy in this game is just something that we just don't get enough of feel like really funny video games or kind of few and far between an I chuckle laugh out loud. Every time I play this game. Because I find something different in even if you're not a big fan of Rick and Morty you don't have to be to enjoy the humor in in the universe. I will say it's very foulmouthed. Lots of swearing's. Oh, certainly not one for the kids. I would say, but it doesn't have that kind of grotesque esque nece to humor the way like south park, the fractured. But holded, for example, that game was funny too. But like, I think that those guys tend to go in a more like bathroom humor way than Trump saves universe does. And so I I just really like the game you play as this chair or Pierre. I think he called. Where you're controlling this. Character named trove over who's been tasked with saving the universe from this big boss enemy of lore. Con. I think his name is revolt. Con something like that. It's just hilarious. You have these power babies that are going. I sockets in your gore on the world collect them and in order to level them up like eighty other. And it's just like it's a wacky. Is as Whakatane do it. I I really had a good time playing it. So in that game comes out so soon at the end of may. And so if you're looking for a nice like relatively short breath of fresh air that's gonna make you laugh, and it's going to be just a silly good time. Definitely check out some previews of jober saves universe. Awesome. Yeah. I mean that since humor so fun and clearly is a fan of VR because he's done several VR game now. So yeah, they have done a couple and note the team squash is is just so fun because they know that they're. Obviously working with Justin who's got locations to his TV show. They're like, it's just such a fun work environment. In a lotta times. They kinda do things on the fly really quickly because they built that game animation of that game to be relatively relatively quick on the turn. Sometimes you know, they talked to me about some stories about how Justin which is go into the vio booth in. He's like I got this idea for some lines and healed is like record him in. They'll be able to turn around some animation in like pump it into the game relatively quickly because of how simple they made the animation style in the game. And I'm like, that's so cool. That's awesome about I don't both. You N Christian have been playing Yoshi is crafted world on switch. What what is your take both of you on on that game? As just as delightful in wins ical as I would as I would want. I mean, I mean. Christian view. What do you wanna go first year? But wims goal is a great word delightful. Great word aboard a word. I might use also boring. No, those are the Antony 'em too. Delightful. Christian. What do you think? I love it. I think it is. It is it is magic. And it is stunningly beautiful the way that Nintendo has used kind of that tilt shift perspective to create this diorama world that looks like your, you know, your kids could make like cardboard, cutouts and pieces stuck together and birds coming in on strings or straws or pipe cleaners and it holds onto haven't finished the game. But what I've played the hours I put into it. I mean, it it hold onto this theme and doubles down on it and really cool ways underwater levels that aren't underwater in other only underwater in backdrop name only where it's like, oh now the cardboard is painted like a fish. But on water a cardboard to get ruined underwater. What what are you doing? And the little outfits you have that work as shields. I think they could be implemented in a greater way throughout the game. Also. But they're so well made and crafted I think the care put into how could we have actually built this world Nintendo has been doing this for a while now with Willie world and yarn Irby. Yeah. Yeah. Like exquisite art direction in these games. And what I really like about Yoshi crafted world is it's not difficult in the way Celeste or a new Super Mario brothers. You those games are or even odyssey has some fairly challenging later levels. I think in harder challenges, especially if you're going to complete the game. But it is just a I'm trying to it's kind of like going on Peter Pan at Disneyland or Disney World, right? Like. It's not going to blow your mind with a loop or anything like that or death defying spin. But it is so well put together the music the animation the care to detail to the world that you're in and everything that you interact with and it is unrelenting joy, in my opinion. And I like that it is probably one of the slowest. Mario games. I've played where I feel like they're really trying to have you see the world. And it's definitely not, you know, Mario speed where you're kind of running through and you can bounce off things and launched here. Triple jump up to this thing, and even some of the other Yoshi games and Kirby games where you can really string together and get moving pretty quickly. I think Kirby the last Kirby switch game was a little slower as well. But you're sitting you're walking through this environment. Trying to collect everything that you can aiming your eggs into the foreground. Background some of the levels in order to complete them. You kind of need to replay them to get a different perspective on them. And it's just a a wonderful world that I want to live in an experience. So it's not challenging my dexterity. It's not a trying on my brain to figure out how to solve this puzzle. But it is just such a wonderful experience that I love it. I've been playing it by myself. My kids got mad at me when we were playing we gotta stop. We gotta get ready to go to school, and then I played more during the day, and they came back, and they're like, hey, this isn't where we stopped busted. But I can't recommend it enough. I think it is it is pure joy put onto a little switch cart. Or I get download coats. So Andrew tell me why you're finding it to be a little boy is at that speed in lack of challenge, or I've pretty Christians perspective a lot. I think what he said about how they're intentionally slowing it down. So you can see the pain. Taking care. They put into the art direction is a very good point to bring up. But I think I've just been so trained to kind of speed run these worlds in like get through them and just keep going from that side scrolling life that I just I just don't stop the look stuff. And maybe that's on me as the player, an I absolutely echo everything. He said about the art direction on the art style. It's amazing and the cute factor of Yoshi being in the game is in being the lead. Character cannot be understated. I mean, all the sounds Yoshi makes the weight you jumps around. He's just he's just a cute little guy right in. So I like the idea of of Yoshi driven game. But for me, I'm not playing it with children. And so I'm looking after having the last platformer I played with Celeste. So like, I'm looking for something a little bit more intensive from mechanics, gameplay perspective. And they do have to difficulty modes, but I was on the more difficult of the two modes in it's still didn't feel difficult job. The the formula. I think is just something that's a little too samey same when it comes to these Nintendo platforms about like, you're gonna go through the world. And yet the collect these special colored coins in the to collect these special sunflowers, and there's going to be like a hidden tunnel over here in the United double jump to get to narrow here. It's like Nintendo's have been making this style of game for a very long time in they have down to polish perfection, four sure in the absolutely deserve credit for that. But I think the the one kind of byproduct is that is that there's not much a lot of innovation in the style of platform that they're doing particularly with this game. Now, maybe they have something up their sleeve for whatever's coming for Mario metro down the ramp, but Yoshi afterworld world is not bringing the innovation, but it is bringing the goods when it comes to the cute factor for shore. Okay. Let's let's talk about a couple more of your sort of GTC packs experiences. What are what are the the best couple of things that you saw there? Sure. So one of the games that knows that criminals, low try, but you can talk about or you can't talk about dangerous driving. We. Yeah, we can talk. So I got to play this game at Paxi for the first time. I'd heard about three fields and what they were working on. Of course is led by Funes, Barron. Alex ward previously criterion. And they left EA in kind of took all of their burnt-out franchise experience with them because they believe in the vision of what an arcade racer should look like and clearly was like, well, we're going to be making need for speed. And so they, you know, shook hands and left and went to start their own studio. And now we've got dangerous driving which is coming out this week, a believe April eleven of I think is the release date. Let me double check that. But so whenever I heard that it was. You know, Alex team the folks from criterion. And they're making essentially the spiritual successor to burn out. I was like I must play this game. It was burnt. It's full on Burnett. What I love is that it's a classic burn out. And I wanted to be clear because I kinda got into a heated Twitter debate with some people who are watching the game play previous that are now coming out from packed sees than being like it doesn't look like burnt out. I know this definitely looks like classic burnout. It's not burn up. Paradise minutes words, it's not that. But if you love burn up to burn three or if you like burnout revenge like me like this game is going to be right up. Your alley. I had a blast playing this game. And I think it's twenty six bucks. I think it's a book. Yeah. They previously made a just sort of burnout crash mode game changers. Right. And so now, this is this is like burn out with tracks and cars that you unlock and take downs and the stuff that I made it really is burn out to Christian you and I both got codes to play this game. What is your feelings on dangerous driving? I feel like Andrew, and I are on opposite sides of a mirror today. And I'm trying to find a way when we'll break through. I agree that it feels like doesn't mean to say, but burn out three to me is the burn out that all right? I'd run out three. Maybe revenge. Also, I events is not burnout revenge for for they don't keep track of your like take down like that. And I don't know. In certain nodes the road rage specifically about take downs. Yeah. Right. So there's has that kind of pedigree to it. So I think that aspect of the game if you're looking for that kind of style Joe or you want that. And again, I think he said we got coach for this. It it feels like a game that didn't have either enough time or budget behind it. I think unfortunately, where I think if I had played this as the hands on demo somewhere keep an eye on this game having played a review, you know. I think essentially final version of the game. It feels like the the font is little things in the kind of just don't coalesce together to the font used. Yeah. Feels like a free font. Like HD font. Like, an and I think that is a minor example. But I think it's bigger to the crashes don't feel impactful enough like the car kind of crumples in turns on its side doesn't explode, and you know, the way burn out got to with these big, especially at the time those things were jaw drop IRS. Right. Like on XBox three sixty. I think it was it would take if you had your webcam it would take a picture of your face reacting to it because they. Like all know, and here it just kind of felt like the the sound wasn't big enough. The crash wasn't big enough. When the game is paused. It's an unreal engine game. I think it looks beautiful but in motion it feels flat the controls feel. Not doesn't quite it's not. I don't want dapper looking for Forza. But it's kind of like, you're turning you're not turning or in slide against a wall for a long time little things like if I guess a real road would have drift drift you can drift. I think I listened to you describe all these things I'm like, yeah. This is an arcade racing game. It's not intended to be simulation. As intended to be this over the top on Bassett thing. Top. I think I just went in with my expectations set in the right place. Like, this is going to be like an arcade style racing game. This isn't for two horizon. And I don't know I just walked away feeling good. I had a blast. Well, that's great. I think that I have often said over and over and over the years how much I love burn out as a franchise. I'm not a racing guy. Like Chris Christie real racing game. Got I'm not a racing game. What he's getting so snobby. I'm a burnout guy. Well, don't get too crazy vendor. I'm about to agree with them a little bit. I'm a burnout guy. And so I love that burn out that somebody's making basically burnout game. But this feels like a cover band, it feels like a cover band for burnout? And there's part of me. That's like, yeah. Nobody's making burnout right now. So these guys are making burn out. That's great. But also, I feel like well, but burnout paradise is backwards compatible on my XBox. I just play that. If I want to just redo burn out. I feel like I wish they had gone. Here's some ideas that we weren't able to do in out. Here's the next next place that burnout can go or there's something fresh to do here that is not just a cover band of burn out. And like, I said, I love burnout. And I wish that there were new Bernau games being made. And this kind of is a Newburn game. But it doesn't feel like it's. The next step is feels like, hey, remember burnout wasn't that great wouldn't be great at somebody made that again. So you don't need to make it again. I don't know. I just felt it doesn't feel fully bakes. You know? I think it's important to remind people listening about who three fields and like how small they are. Right. Rasa. My check they were literally a seven person studio, and they are completely independent, and so they have incredibly small team, and they even say, you know, openly on like their about us section on the website that the games are stepping stone to the future. We're not there yet. But every game we make adds more and more features. And so I think it's like to take with a grain of salt. Like, you're not gonna get this crazy game with all of these physics and visual fidelity. And in these experts the things that, you know, gamers have come to expect maybe from an arcade racing game. Because this is more of an indie style game. It's meant to be meant to be small from. Mall team. And that's why they priced it. You know appropriately. I think I think they had come out and said that this was a fifty nine ninety nine gang. They would get crucified, and so they're like no this isn't a full game. Like, it's meant to be a short experience. So and like Inverness I haven't played with the same code that you played with. I don't know if the Coby played with the same. Maybe when I finally get the the final code. I'll come back and be like, well, maybe I'm a little more disappointed. But I don't know, man. I'm I'm having a I'm having a tough time here, and you guys rag on it will. No, I think you'd agree points. There's no ex- up. Sorry. Go ahead. She she's making a great. It is the counterpoint is it's in the marketplace with all those other things, but you're right. It is at a cheaper price point. I'm rooting for those guys. I want them to be able to expand in really take on the Bahamas. Take, you know, stand shoulder shoulder with the next need for speed or whatever game is there competition. I would love for them to make a full-on. Feature parody kind of AAA racer and this is a little bit step back. But it is priced appropriately as you said in their small team. So I'm rooting for them. It just feels like if you go to a second hand store and get burnout paradise Franks box sixty and put it in your Xbox One and it downloads the patch for free and you get to play that game with updated resolution, it's hard to recommend this over that. They also released a remastered burnout paradise. Also, you could buy that. Yes. And so I. I played it as various types of cars a sedan a sports car or like a high end car. They felt almost exactly the same sense of speed was felt very similar the drifting felt very similar. The crashes weren't any more elaborate, and I think their heart is a hundred percent in the right place. And I want them to keep making games. I don't think. The microchips with this game are about critiques of the the people or the team or the passion behind it or the idea behind it. But I feel like saying that oh because this is a small team we need to. Judge differently. I think is is a discredit to what we're looking at. I'm not reviewing can one person make something that's pretty good like. Plate of this game. It is not worth. I think from my perspective, and they have four different types of cars. There's four different levels of of cars, and then within each of those four archetypes variety of different types of vehicles in the types of cars are tuned specifically for different modes. So there's a special class of car. That's specifically for road rage. Take down that has a little bit. Heavier chassis was staff or damage than they have ones that are designed for racing that are have higher speeds of acceleration and can go faster, but they were stand up less damage. You know, your your typical racing stuff. I think when I look at this game. And I've I've played it hearkens back to my countless hours playing a one of my favorite arcade racing games of all time crews in USA. In thinking I loved playing that game to see how fast I could facet could go without crashing. But I didn't care what kind of tires. I had what kind of torque they have what kind of, you know, body the car had if it went faster or slower 'cause I it wasn't for me. It was never about that. And that's what's been so tough for me to get into modern racing gains. Because it's all about the gearhead aspect of building your vehicle like from the nuts and bolts up in. I don't want any of that. I wanna put a fancy racing stripe on my car. I wanna pick the pink color, and that's it. That's all when it comes to thinking the stats on a car. So I guess for my perspective on like, I don't I don't care that that they'll feel the same. But like, I don't know I'm on that page of wanting a, you know, why should I ever not beholding down the gas again? That's how I play raising it. So I'm a bad judge of that as well. But. Jeff that's the game. Like, this is that you could to endlessly boost over and over again, and it's not meant to be stimulation at all. And that's what I think is fun about it. I've been dying for a game like this. I wanna be able to crash into stuff without having having it ruined. My whole racing experience. No I had like three crashes in a race. And I still finished. I. Good. Okay. Good. That is dangerous driving. And it is it is out this week. I wanna talk about a game that I was actually informed of last week. I didn't even I was it's not on my radar. But boy it got it took into me this week last week. He was on. He was he told me about risk of rain too. Which is just tearing it up over on steam with great reviews and much more many more downloads than the risk of rain team thought, I played the first risk of rain a fair amount, which was a to decide scrolling rogue like shooter, it's fun. But man risk of rain to is is just a quantum leap say that quantum is a very small thing is a it was a huge leap another quantum leap, a huge leap in quality. In ambition in execution. I'm digging it man, it's only an early access now. There's a lot more. Intent coming and I'm excited to see where it goes. But very happy that I purchased in on the on the on the early access. So what it is is a true rogue like every time you boot up the game you're starting fresh from from ground zero. Although you can unlock things that let you start with new characters and stuff for subsequent runs, but you start in these environments. It's a full third person. Three d action game with the ranged combat a shooter, and you tell port in with you and three of your compatriots full coop for up to four people, and you start blasting everything in sight everything in sight you start blasting. And then there is a meter at the top. That is informing you that the game is slowly getting more difficult. So you start with easy and just a pure time. It is a pure how long can you survive as the game gets more difficult, and you're searching through these levels for. Teleport her that will get you to the next level. But you soon I mean, if you can stay alive long enough, you will get to the last level that they've made so far and then you'll take teleport or that a loop. You back to the first level and keep you'll keep going as long as you can survive and the the meter at the top will tell you move from easy to medium to hard to insane to there's ridiculous descriptions of how difficult to get all the way up to just it says, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha infinitely because of how insane the heart. It is. And you're trying to survive, and you get a power ups, and you're buying you get money every time you kill something. They spit out money. You can use that money to purchase a things at certain kiosks that are littered around the environment. It's all random procedural generated and the enemies get crazier and crazier and crazier and the items that you get your power ups, your power gets more and more stable to handle the crazy as it ramps up. So that's that's a very basic player a pure robe-like. But the joy is in collecting all of these wacky power ups that do that make you feel oh p all the time and the brilliant part of this game. The thing that I find extremely satisfying is that every single power that you get and you get a lot of them, and they all stack there's nothing that getting one thing makes you get rid of another thing, they all just just continued a rack up on the top line of your screen. It just shows you the twenty thirty forty power ups that you get if you can stay alive long enough and every single one of them has a visual representation on your character. It is so satisfying to see you all of a sudden have a bandolier on your character or have something hanging from your belt or a new headdress or some weird thing on your arm or one of your blitz. Turns into a grenade explodes or something. Shooting enemy killing them makes them catch fire and explode in that carries to all the enemies around it all of it visually represented all of super satisfying the level of chaos and insanity just seems to have no bounds. And I find the very very fun. It's it's a great game to jump into with friends. I think all of the praise that risk of rain to is getting is well deserved. And I'm super excited to see where this team goes now that they are selling way more copies. I guess it sold five hundred thousand copies in its first week, which is far beyond what they expected, and I'm hoping they channel that into continuing to update this game in in polish it for a full release with lots more content because it's a blast. I'm really enjoying risk of rain too. All right. Well, that's that's what we've been planning ender. Is there anything else? You wanna throw at the end here. I you have so many things to that you've been playing or any other parting experiences from GTC patsies. That you wanted to not forget yes quickly. I'm gonna try to go over at assassins possible journey to the savage planet. And the reason I wanna talk about this is because not a lot of people have heard about this game played it have either of you seen it or heard about it. I fell deeply madly in love with at GD. See yes goods, you did get to see it. This is Alex Hutchinson's game. He's co making. And I always forget his partner's name whenever I bring it up. But it's typhoon studios is the name of the development team that is working on it. And I know Alex because I got to work with him several times during his tenure at Ubisoft. He was the game director for assessment creed three, and he also lead far cry four he has worked on games spore and splinter cell. So he has a long history as the rest of his team in the video game space, but they really wanted to do something different in the notes that I have from his his demonstration were optimistic upbeat positive exploration focused. It's an earnest comedy. That's an exploration action adventure where you play a human with an AI assistant in it's designed to be short. It's only about ten to fifteen hours of exploration kind of Pera Tif he called it a not a full price game. And what I love the most about is that they just decided to make it a bespoke game. So it is exploration focus, but this isn't Noman sky where there is endless amounts of procedural generation everything in the world is painstakingly place there. I have a quote from Alexander. If you're going to spend time climbing amount into turnover a rock, you want something that was intentionally put there. Agree percent. So I just like what I loved about. It is that it really had kind of cartoon vibe from the rare in retro games of old and felt whimsical in that way for sure and the comedy in. It was very understated, but very on the nose and certain aspects so lots of laugh out loud moments during our demo, and it just looks for fun. And we just don't get enough games at our Optimus UPI positive. You know? I'm looking to see more this sadly, not coming for for little while they said early twenty twenty is what they're targeting, but it looked so fun in came out. Just like so happy for those guys like they all quit, very high paying jobs making you know, the battlefields in army of twos, and they were all making top tier games. All these like, let's go and make something that's a little closer to our heart. And not you know, it just feels a more earnest, and as you said upbeat and positive kudos to that impulse. And yeah, I came away just in love with sentiment of those guys. And the the game itself looks like something I'm really going to enjoy you know, goofy stuff but pure exploration in in a really interesting looking world. So yeah, totally agree. Very much worth mentioning. Christian. You also had a game that you wanted to bring up before we move on. He I wanted to talk some mex- termination force, which is the new game from hung on of ruin his name. I apologize Bertil Hobart he made gunman Clive, which if you wanna get your way back machine, I talked about gunmen Clive to on episode sixty one over four years ago. I was singing its praises then I was given a code for this game. I should say that I love this game with my whole heart in nice to let people know third if not on the radar or anything, you know, the types of games, I like a platform. Irs celeste. I've getting into retro gaming again in a big way. And this feels like gunman. Clive was kind of a side scroll or shoot constantly shooting smaller games month radius, really. They were they were cheap. But really well done and really fun experiences and Mexico nape. Mac Sturm nation force is like if contra maybe three maybe super contra was just a boss. Rush game. So different than Cup head which also added some side scrolling parts to that game. But also is very much focused on being a boss. Rush game. Mex- termination force is kind of that super contra contra two contra three approach to it where you're constantly shooting in blasting up against this huge boss and trying to whittle it down as it evolves. Through kind of each stage of combat you'll shoot the armor off the leg later. You get Gatling gloves that help you climb that are magnetic. So you shoot the armor off the leg you climb inside. This is huge mech robots body that the graphic style is it's political three D. But it's very cute. It's. Very wims Ecole in its approach to it. It's not trying to live in realism of like, these huge mex- smashing our city. It's very kind of tongue in cheek and fun and bright colors in. So you one is like it looks like a cowboy it has cowboy boots and Spurs and his very lanky and kind of almost marionette ask dancing in the middle of the city in you'll shoot the armor off its leg. Scamper inside than has defense hurts inside the take down or kind of dodge the bullet, how that's coming at you as you're climbing up this thing to take down the next week point to climb up in you always need to defeat the the red orbs, you know, the weak spots. Very clearly marked. It's not trying to hide the ball. What you're trying to do per se or when you get there with your huge wrench. You have to get close enough to a melee combat. The take these things down in each time. You kind of get through various parts of the bosses how you have to the strategy changes. It will start floating. The LEGO away will transform into this other type. Thing boss that starts off looking like a huge mechanical snail. And then by the end of it. I think it's like three pieces of metal floating in in the sky that are circling around each other that you need to stay magnetized to as you jump from one to the other to kind of get to the weak point. And what I love about it so much is that it is the type of game that unlike for me and Cup head where sometimes I felt like I never had a chance like I needed to literally sit down and just memorize this pattern. Otherwise, I'm never going to get through it the bosses that I've come up against in which the game the mex- that I fight and mix termination force. I feel like I have a chance my first try. I almost never get through them on my first try, but there's that feeling of oh, I got this bolts going to get here. I can climb this, and I don't need to just sit and memorize the attack pattern for how to progress than the other thing. I really like about this difficult style. Contrast game is that the money you collect as you fight? Boss's even when you fail. It keeps adding up so you're able to take that money and go back to the shop and buy heart or new weapons. And so it's the opposite of Lucca of blood borne you die. You lose everything here. It's like you die. But you still got all that money. You got. So maybe go by a couple of heart containers for this. You know, a one time use heart container to use for this boss because it's handed you you're a couple of times in a row now in type of game that I don't realize I'm gripping my switch to hard until I've been playing for an hour that I put it down. I'm like, what am I Hans hurt like that? Good. Like, I'm squeezing the console so hard in my hand as I'm focused like I can do it. If that I'm gonna I'm gonna yes. And then I put the switch down in your hands or still stuck in that position. It's awesome. If you like games like contra, I think Cup head of kind of scratches that it for people as well. It is a charming difficult. You know, contr alike bullet. Hell boss rush game. That is just absolutely magical. I I really really like it that is a mix termination force and you playing on switch. Yeah. Buddy. All alright. It's time to think our other sponsor that his hellofresh. Oh my gosh. 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I have been very hesitant in my VR game plane because of all the setup we finally decided to dedicate a PS four pro for our PS VR here at the Drake household, which was certainly a step in the right direction. So that we're not like moving the cables around all the time. I mean because in this busy day Naeem one minor inconvenience means I just don't play VR. What I was really impressed by with the Oculus quest, which of courses wireless VR was just how good it felt because for the longest time. The rift headset was incredibly uncomfortable on my face because I have a very tiny head. And so I really have to clamp the headset down pretty aggressively in order to make sure it sits properly on the bridge my nose. So it's not fuzzy inside the headset. And so it was very uncomfortable for me to wear for more than twenty minutes or so, and I didn't feel that with the quest which is nice. They had this new knob in the back that just like you turn it in like clicks automatically adjusts. Everything there's not all these individuals straps. And I was like, okay. It's nine s s has the clamp on the back and the quest. The standalone quest has the to velcro straps on the side. Okay. So I played both of them. So the s knob amazing what are about playing. I played beat sabre specifically in the quest. And that is a very motion intensive game. Some VR games. You just sit in you. Hold your controller you played your mouse, and keyboard or whatever, right. But like this was amazing because I had the the little are they what's the name of the Oculus controllers again, touch the touch controllers in my hands. And I'm just like, you know slash these knows left. And right. I'm playing the song played with Katie as Popstars and under like getting into it. And it was so much fun to be able to move around and not feel the tug of the cable. Tangled all the time my meeting, Andrea. I literally had to apologize for the amount of sweat that. I was letting out. I'm really sorry. I only know one way to play this game. And it's a one hundred percent. So I'm sorry. I I don't know. I've I'm sweating everywhere. I you need a cleaning crew in here. Yeah. Not having Abels is a game changer specifically for that game. Yeah. So it was super fun. I love that. There are launching with a pretty comprehensive library and the price point. I think is a little bit doable. Now. I mean, I know it's still three ninety nine which is still a lot of money. But you don't have to have a PC now. And it's not like PS VR where you have to have a PlayStation like, it's just all right there in the headset and audio comes from inside the band, which is really need. The one thing I forgot to mention when I brought this up on the show after JD D C is how remarkable it is to hear audio but have no thing in your ear or covering your ear. Really wild. It's it's an amazing thing to have clear, crisp stereo audio surround a positional audio, but might years are completely open to the air, which is just a Wild Thing. Yeah. It was super impressive. And I wasn't a believer in the rift before. But man, Oculus quest has made me a believer. So I'm definitely excited to spend some more time in virtual reality because of the quest. And then conversely, the time I spent in the rift s I was not prepared for how beautiful storm land looked. So the chance of ice storm land. Yeah. That's the new insomniac VR game where you plays a robot. Yeah. I was very impressed with it. Also. I think I mean, I'm sure you've talked about it already. But the one thing I want to mention is I have never seen a virtual reality games graphics. Look this good. 'cause there's always something inherently a little off about VR graphics that just you know, I'm just so used to seeing a lot of things either intended p or for katie's days, and I'm really impressed with what insomniac has been able to achieve with the rift s obviously, you know, they've put several VR titles out. So they're very comfortable with working in the space and definitely looking forward to seeing more from this game. I mean, the the moment where you like step off of a cliff and put your arms out and fly forward. Among the clouds is like pulling off your own arm and replacing it with a new arm is pretty RAD. Yeah. And just looking down at yourself and seeing a robot body in being able to look through your arm and hold it up. It's yeah. I'm very very. Cited for storm land. And it's going to be like a full big awesome adventure game. It's looks great. Speaking of full big awesome adventure games. I finally got a chance to go back and revisit borderlands to VR since they added support for the aim controller end, ladies and gentlemen. It is a game changer. It is the only way to play I hope that Sony realizes what asset the aim controller is to their VR. It sets it apart from Oculus from vibe from any of the other players in the space because I think the motion controllers the move controllers that use are clearly the least, you know, the least good solution. They were retrofit from old tech and just not ideal. But man, the aim controller is better than a lot of there's not an equivalent available on those other PC platforms, and I hope Sony doubles down on this because a game like borderlands two. I know this is gonna have to take with a grain of salt coming from me a person who loves VR. But I think this is the best way to play borderlands. I'm using a I'm holding a gun controller in my hand and running through a fully three d immersive environment, turning and shooting things picking awesome weapons holding them up looking at that weapon super close in my hand inspecting it because each weapon is different. And then it is awesome. It's awesome. Man. I am I wanna play through all of borderlands two again with this aim controller because it's so much fun to just run at a guy shoot my shotgun in his face the controls map really really well to the aim controller. It's it's a game changer. It is fan tastic. So there you go that's going to do it for this episode. We do have our parting gifts coming up. So stay tuned for that. But Andrea Rene it is always a delight to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here. Oh, thank you for having me. I didn't realize it had been so long since we had done this. So thanks to the invited. So good to talk to you as always absolutely and tell people where they can keep up with you and your myriad activities online. Well, you can find me at what's good games dot com. You can download the what's games podcasts. Wherever you listen to deal. See you can also check us out at you've dot com. What's he gains? And then I also hosts a couple times a week with the fine folks over at kind of funny games. So we can watch us live. I'm generally, they're on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Twitch dot TV slash kinda games at ten AM civic time or you can also find them on podcast arisen YouTube as well. And you can find me and all the things I'm up to at Andrea Rene on Twitter, very cool Christian Spicer. How about you? What do you got going on this week Twitter's the best way to keep in touch? At Spicer say I stream this show live on my twitches, twitch dot TV slash Christian. Spicer. But we haven't the past few weeks or this week. But I think we're gonna start again in I two pm Sundays, right? New normal. The new is it it's we're in a game of thrones world, we gotta make way for game of thrones. Yeah. Already winter has come and it's DLC's recording time. So Sundays at two pm. There was a few. There will be a few caveats here and there because of prior commitments that I have but Sundays two pm. I will do my best to stream the show live on my twitch Jeff about you. Well, you can always follow me on Twitter. I'm at Jeff cannata, which is two in one t and I do a another podcast all about movies and TV shows called the slash film cast, which you can find it slash foam, cast dot com. This week. We're gonna be talking about shit Zam. She's a him which is really good really fun. And yeah, you can find that wherever we podcast as well. Oh, also, I should mention because it has become public. And it was a big announcement. And I'm kind of proud of it. I am going to be a voice in a VR game. The upcoming vacation simulator from lands. Thank you. I'm so excited. I'm so Erica. She is the other voice, and sort of the two big leads that you go through the whole game with it was like dream, come true. For me. I'm excited I really loved a job simulator, which was the first VR game. Now, this is the sequel. So if you wanna hear me as a robe it get that game. And I think you got a job to help me go on vacation. That's right. That's right. So okay. That's it. Also, you can always Email us at deal feedback at g mail dot com. But let's wrap the show up. Now our parting gifts. Andrea rene. Do you have a suggestion to help people get through their week? I have been obsessed with the new season of queer eye on net. Flicks. I don't know if you've talked about this or seen it, please. Tell me you've seen some queer eye. This is the second season of the new reboot. Right. The third season. Actually, I watched some of the first season. I enjoyed what I saw. But I didn't stick with it. Everything everybody. I've heard talk about this says that you will just ball your eyes out. That's not true. I haven't had to cry. I have teared up a couple times when it's all happy tears. Let me be clear unreasonable. I want to suggest this is because there's feels like there's fewer and fewer purely positive experiences on television these days in so much of reality TV centers around conflict and gossip and he said, she said in backstabbing in queer eye is none of that. And what I love about the way that they've evolved the show from its original days back as cry for the straight guy on Bravo. Is that this is no longer about telling people how they should live their life the way they should. Look what they should eat. This is about helping people realize the best version of themselves that they may be have lost along the way because of a hardship that they suffered or grief that they're going through or maybe they just got a bad Hannah cards, delta them they've struggled to overcome it. And this team comes in and says, hey, we're going to help you rediscover your best self, and we're gonna help you. Remember, how amazing you are. Just the way you are. And I just love that message so much that I'm getting a little teary eyed thinking about it, but it's such a feel good show and that cast this new crew of guys that they have on. It are just such wonderful people to watch on camera and that there's some really good nuggets of wisdom and life lessons to take away from that show. So if you've been not maybe waiting in the wings in your like, I've heard people talk about it. I really just urge you to at least watch a single episode and hopefully you'll get hooked. Queer eye more like tier-i? Yeah. That was queer eye, and it is on Netflix Christian Spicer. What's your parting gift? Why don't wanna spoil slash film? Casra people have listened to it. But I will wholeheartedly recommend Zam. It is such a fun movie. There's there's one superhero movie, that's fun. What it so? It's so fun. There's one scene in it that I think makes it may be inappropriate for younger kids, but you know, do some due diligence. But otherwise, I think the movie is a really fun movie for for young kids. Also, I think it's got a good message. It's funny. The action is great the special effects are great at my only. Minor knit with it as I wish that like one scene didn't happen because I'd be like six year old. We're going to the movies. It bums me out that the movies PG thirteen I feel like they wanted the PG thirteen because it sort of gives them a little street cred in can't have superhero movie that's p g but man, it should be. It should be a movie straight up made for seven year olds. Yes. Versus PG. You can do it. It's a bummer. There's no reason that movies should be PG thirteen it. It didn't need to. Yeah. It's but all that being said, go see Dr love is great. Levy Levy is great in it. The cast is phenomenal twelve in well acted and and beautiful absolutely beautiful. I really enjoyed his Zam. Agreed. I got a listener suggested parting gift is was sent to feedback at gmaiLcom. This comes from Collin Collin says fan of the show and first suggestion for a parting gift the band, new found glory is releasing a cover album of songs made famous by movies in may called from the screen to your stereo. Three and they've released a couple of singles in preparation last month. They released a cover of power of love by Hugh Lewis in the news. Curious thing, which was pretty good. But last week they released a cover of this is me from the movie the greatest showman. This is a brilliant cover cannot stop listening to it. If you even remotely a fan of pop punk the original song or just appreciate equality cover. You should give it a listen. Keep up the great work calling. Hey christian. I think your fan of pop punk NFC never heard of them. Never went on tour. Thumb never worked with them. Don't know who they are funny story about from three hundred stereo start at screen, Scranton stereo. They started doing those when they were lesser known and touring with bigger bands. And they wanted to play songs that everybody could sing along to as kind of like instant, you're on our side music, and they were so great. And so good at this. If they started bundling them and releasing them as AP's, and yeah, they are they are really fun. Very cool. If you wanna have your parting gift on our show Senate to us at DC feedback at g mail dot com. My part. Gift is a new stand up special that I watched last night with my wife and both of us were just doubled over in laughter. Loved it. Nate bar got see the Tennessee kid is on Netflix. He was one of the comedians in the show called. I think called the stand ups on Netflix, which I hadn't watched his episode of. So I wasn't really even aware of him. But he he references does updates to some of the material he did in that special literally, I paused his special halfway through win and watched the half hour of his the stand ups episode and then came back, and I'm so glad I did. Because he like update some of the stories that he tells the thing that's great about neigbor Godsey is he's hilarious and literally zero offensive language zero. Not a single cuss word not a single inappropriate setup or talking about taboo subject. He just makes. Comedy out of stuff. We all know, and you can talk about and kid could listen to, but it's ho- areas. It's smart. His delivery is Super Dry and matter of fact, I I'm now a giant fan of this guy bar got see the Tennessee kid on Netflix does AM live. If you can't he's phenomenal. And just the nicest guy just seems like the nicest guy just the best this love the fact that he can he didn't have to say single bad word in any could make everybody in that room. Just cry with laughter was great. Yeah. He's one of the best. He's great. All right. That's gonna do it for this episode of D L C. Thanks into Andrea. Renee in Christian Spicer for hanging out with me. Thanks to our musical contributors. Patrick L, Sean Madigan and zero star for making those awesome bumpers. Thank you to all of you who listen to our show. We certainly appreciate you downloading it telling friends about it giving us good reviews. If you have the time we'll be back next week until then think about what you put onto the world make it a better place.

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Whats This New Handheld Console? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 05.23.19

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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Whats This New Handheld Console? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 05.23.19

"Good morning. What is up best friends? It is may twenty third a Thursday. So it's not Franjieh Friday, but I'm here with Andrew Renee, and it's Franjieh Thursday. I guess. Yes, it is. That's, that's what's good. That is what's good, right? Andrea, that is what's good. How are you doing Fran? The you know on tire she's laughing. She's trying to hold it fine. Although she's going to be traveling soon. Some sure she's had a lot on her plate in mere hours, but she hops going going to Lund in the housekeeping. We're gonna get to that horses in the show, you don't have to, because I we have it covered for you. Andrea hopped into my stream last night around eleven pm was it or some? Yeah. Was editing. The show for what's good this week. I was waiting for file to render I was like, well, I'm sitting here I got the notification because we follow you onto it and I was like, oh, let me pop in there and see what's going on in France channel. Appreciate professional operation going on you. It wasn't bad. But yeah, I got a little nervous that was the first time I've seen. I think what's good and Andrew in there. But we were playing destiny too, because the grind is on them to shoot for the June fourth worlds. First raid with the destiny community podcast team. And I am not max level. So I've got my only got two weeks. Any good luck? This isn't a destiny show. A show that tells you about all the nerdy video game news, you need to know about it. Of course it's called kinda funny games daily. If you don't know already, you can catch us live right here on twitch TV slash kind of funny games if you can't catch it live. Of course, you can find a silver on YouTube dot com slash kind of funny games rooster, teeth dot com and podcast services around the globe. Well done. Let's see what else. Oh, yeah. If we get anything wrong during the show, you can actually tell us live at kind of funny dot com slash you're wrong. Please keep it limited to you're wrong. It's lots read at the end of the shows, I often say, we don't like to just stared a giant spreadsheet of general chatter. But anyway, let us know if we get anything wrong. Let's remember as well to be a part of the show. You can actually head over to patriot dot com slash kind of funny games where bronze members are above. Get to write in and silver members or above get the show ad free on today's show. Andrea. Not not a bad amount of news. There's a new gaming hand held console coming out to black and white. Yeah. I'll tell you more about that in a second black and white. Yep. Just, just wait for division to raid Ubisoft come back with state of the game date. I wanna talk to Andrew about that because we play a lot of division two. There's a Neo to alpha tests coming soon, and a lot more news beyond that, so stay tuned for that in just a second, but first, some housekeeping Andrea, tell me what is going on in. London. So what's good crew myself Brit, and Steiner all going to be at the marquee in Westminster the marquee of Westminster? Yes. On Sunday may twenty six from three to six PM or from fifteen hundred eighteen hundred in the afternoon, I try to get time. Time going, and we would love for you to come by as I mentioned on the show with Gary yesterday. We've had a lot of best, friends reach out and say the, there's going to be a whole league of best friends that are coming. So if you guys want to come by and say, Hello. That would be super fun leak of best friends. I feel that's like a cinematic. It's got cinematic potential the league of best friends, we should we should do that. And if they wanna follow you enter in a also Facebook dot com slash what's good games for updates. Yes. So we have the exact address on our Facebook events page. And if you are planning to attend we would love it. If you would as piece we get a general headcount of who's all going to be there that would help us out a lot. And of course, you can follow what's good underscore games, or myself at Andrea Rene for those details. If you forget, maybe are jogging right now if you're driving to work. Yeah. Do it later. Yeah. Don't neither jogging nor driving? Don't, don't read tweets, not a good idea. One of the, of course, are patriot producers for today for helping make the show possible, blackjack Tom Bach and Mohammed Mohammed, thank you very much. And also today were brought to you by quip and third love. But I'll tell you more about that later. Kevin. Was there any other housekeeping the boys, Greg, and Tim are in Orlando? I think they're just done with the major meet ups, but they're still there for the like today, right? Kevin's do believe. So I think they're coming back tomorrow. But if you had to Greg's feed either his Twitter or Instagram you can see some photos from the meet up last night. Looks like a an amazing turn out a ton of best friends showed up to say hi to Greg Tim in Florida, Orlando brought it. I already said, we're brought to you by quick and third love. But I'll tell you about that later, just making sure I said that, but for now let's begin with what is and forever will be the Roper reports. For some news. We have five stories today. Kevin bakers. Yep. See now he's the one that's. I wasn't even I passed it on to you. While I do the shell. All right. First up Andrew, you saw this play date a new black and white hand-held will cost you about one hundred forty nine bucks. That's the short summary. Do you want to have you caught up on the story yet? So I saw this making the rounds yesterday after the show after Katie yesterday went off the air and I was looking at it going. Glut one. My question was this one four very limited edition run. But let let's get the details here from John fingers over it. A N gadget thought I'd put from some hardware experts since it is in hardware. I also also said experts, and I also just said, also gonna call you. Anyway. I'm gonna call myself on all my mistakes today. So the story goes like this veteran software developer panic, which is best known for writing transmit and publishing. Fire watch has on veiled a hand held game system called play date. It aims to break the rules of game. Consoles most conspicuously. It has a hand crank on it. You have to treat your system like a fishing rod to play some titles. This comes again from gadget who says it looked silly but panic is clearly betting on that added whimsey to help it stand out. And it sure does it actually looks really cool. It's like this sort of GameBoy esque kinda simple feely, Kevin shell show. Thanks for the gift action perfect. But yet kind of looks like. A small Gable is got this little foldout crank on the side. It's all I thought it was glossy yellow, but anyway, it has a black and white screen is well, so maybe also harketting to that GameBoy style and the game delivery model is also the big noteworthy part, the titles are actually secret and you're gonna get twelve game strung out over three months, so about twelve weeks. So one game per week and panic wants to keep the game lineup secret beyond this first how they've shown right there, which was cranking time travel adventure. And so what it's doing it's just showing you're using the crank to actually move through the world. So that was most of it. The machine won't ship until early twenty twenty. They said it will cost about one forty nine with all the games of season, one included and supplies will be quote very limited is what panic says. Hi Neal, is it. I didn't see Kevin was really tidy keeps didn't see. I didn't see the holding it, it looks like a potato chip with us Craig on this spend my iphone excess. Do you have a what's not though? No have the excess. That's yeah, I know. But like when you're talking about playing half the size of an excess dumb right? We can all agree with that now. Okay. It's done. It's a novelty collector's item. It's got a little cranky advantage of dumb hipsters at wanna get like, yes. Okay. Let's try to see the glasses half full here friend. Friend, trying to I don't think it's worth hundred and fifty bucks. No talk about that. I'm not gonna I realize it is twelve games. And so I wanna start with that point, at least, which is always games. Did you see this this game that they were showing us is this a game? Hang, it seems that you crank it back and forth to make him move Kennedy. You crank it better. Is that a game? Is that a good? You are you doing anything? Besides just cranky in the crank. Yeah. I don't think it's a game. I think it's like a movie essentially that you get to his it's like you member. Those viewfinders are used to hold to your face, and you would like crank it and would like move. It's basically like Charlie Chaplin game, basically, is what you're telling me. Anyway, what I wanted to point out was actually to be fair. We always talk about any platform is very often. Find by the games that are on it. We don't really know what the games are like if they're very complicated or not. So is really hard to judge the true worth of it because we don't know what these twelve games their weekly games. What I like about it is I actually liked the little crank on the side, and that was a little bit of an intendo move is very tiny. It looks to me about maybe sixty percent the size of ex- excess iphone or something like that. Whatever the case, I'm just trying to say, I don't know who it's for where this came from, and what investors got all who is about as after reading the story about the death of yesterday and knowing that, that company spent over thirty million dollars wasted watching that thing swirl down the drain. How does somebody take something like this, and go, we should fund invest in this? I don't understand it Fran. I agree with you there. And by the way, outside the crank and even then you could probably argue that I wonder if on switch you could do this stuff with the Giro. I don't know if it could pick up on it that minute, but outside of that. I mean. Yeah. Like why not just release these games and color? And so it is more just by a GameBoy if you are so nostalgic, for a black and white gaming experience, that has a massive library of games that you can play. We were discussing it's getting press, so that works and it's very limited supply. What were you just Kevin? Oh, no. It's okay. Nick was gonna go to birthday is going birthday party for three year old and he's like, I don't want to get the kid and I was like you should get him a GameBoy like an old GameBoy. Oh, yeah. Break and real simple games. I guess. Game by maybe a little too much for three year old. Hey man, they're smart. They'll figure. They are very smart, but they're touchscreen smart. The buttons, it'll stump through your. He'll get it. Anyway. Sounds like the verdict is still out. Let us know what you guys think in the commerce, if anybody actually is gonna like I don't know if you can pre-order yet or not in that but my God. Oh my God down to me about this story. Ongoing buying you'll have their weird black and white hipster thing. Andrea, jeez. Exactly. That's what it is. Saying no one saying like, oh hey don't buy this now. It's just your few by your dumb dumb. That's all I'm safe. You buy your dumdum the final word on play day before it's even out from Kevin Koa. I just want to make a note to people that you can buy a PlayStation, slim on EBay for one hundred eighty bucks. Just thirty dollars. More. He put that day Andrea. And I'll tell you what else you can't with the PlayStation, slim crank, it, it's true. I guess if you really wanna crank it play data's for you need is like a really good like commercial around that crank, like I was thinking about there was this old construction commercial nineties commercials. Cranking out the big balls Craig get out the big ball. It was like a whole song around cranking. Anyway, said cranking enough on this story. Let's move. It is something that is a lot more familiar to Andrea. And I division two's raid. We tried it last Friday came out last Thursday. It's now been a full week and it was very difficult, especially for console players. Everybody on read it blown. Up. We heard from one of the I think it was Johann from Ubisoft commented on read it, you know, we're open to changes so we got our hopes up state of the game, which is their weekly show release yesterday. And on it Chris Gansler who's the community developer commented on this much discussed Ray difficulty and the lack of parody on console admitting there is one and here's what he had to say. We know the rate is harder on consul. But we are happy with where we were at we have seen apple clear it, and I've cut out a few in between comments, but this was basically, we've seen multiple people clear. We're always open to changes if the community is giving us feedback on something that is not how they like it or not afraid to do changes at the moment, though for the rate. Specifically, we don't have any balance changes right now. How you feel about that Andrew? I'm mad about a friend mad. Not what's good. That's what's what's mad listen. We have talked about how there are market difference. Ses between the rate on council and we as gamers know that PC has always had more power has always had more precision, that's nothing new but to see it so starkly side by side and having console players being prohibited because of those differences is super frustrating. What? Yes. So I moved to destiny to on which, you know, quite some time ago October of twenty seventeen. So when it came out, I guess, so. So I moved over there then, and actually like right at first it's the frame rate. Right. And destiny has raids which is why I'm bringing it up. In addition to being total fan boy about it. When I was playing I was like, yeah, just like smoother it's faster didn't really occur to me that it was like that much improved. Because your input which is precision aim with mouse. And keyboard something, you can't aim on controllers, but there is quite a big difference in whereas going with this. I started to see raid, completions, tending to always be on PC I there was never anything like this situation with division, where thirty six hours before anybody had beaten on console. And it only took about five and a half hours. I believe I mean when you have a speed run. That's twenty three minutes or twenty four. Now they've got down twenty five fastest speed run possible on consul is like three hours. Yeah. I mean, there's clearly a different already there, right? Yes. And this was the last point I was gonna make one. It's just part of it. I just didn't believe there was that big of difference because of my desk days. I'm like, well, there's some difference, but you get through it. Once you get a console team together knows what they're doing. But it is much harder on console when I was sitting back to play it. I started to realize just the way a lot of the stuff works. I have so much trouble aiming on console part of that is just me. But quite frankly, I just like, oh, is such a world of difference in my last point here was just that I can't believe they balanced this on the P C. Apparently, that's what surpr-. Prizes me now. I don't know that they did. They never said that we played it on PC to balance it. But like who at the studio had been playing on console. Do you think they spent significant time with that as the main platform, I feel like it must have been? How do they not spot this? No, I'm with you. Because because the designed server was obviously on as far as I'm aware, they didn't do a private test server for console players and so, yes, exactly. When you when you're gonna take data from PC players only then you're going to potentially balance. Tweaks certain parts of the mechanics of her game with PC only input data, then you're going to have a skewed experience, and it's unfortunate because you would think if they skewed it for console PC players would then just have a natural advantage. Anyway. 'cause they're always going to have an input control advantage over console players, regardless. And so why wouldn't you do it for the people who are going to have the most difficult time and balance it for them? And then everybody else, you know, that's kind of up the chain is going to benefit from that. Anyway. Yeah. But, you know, I was thinking about the internal development team just themselves. And you know, you never know all this stuff works. Sometimes you do design something that is so complex. You gotta wait till you get it out in the wild as well. And to your point, see how it goes, but the one sort of glass half full thing, I'll say is it is, if it's half full, but it's interesting. The fact that massive is so dedicated to making this such an elite experience. I mean, eight people that know what they're doing that have top tier builds by. It's an eight person rate, if you didn't know yet eight people together on console or have Molin a chat room, and that alone is difficult, because there's no matchmaking which was before all this. So it's such a high tier to get everyone together, but also all of the need for the most part. No other doing, and it's interesting that massive seems very dedicated to, like, look, we're we think people are going to do this. We want it to be a big challenge. So anyway, it's interesting to see where it's going, they're sticking to their guns for now. Right. So we have in tier later on the store that Ubisoft community. Manager also said that improving Bill diversity the classes and abilities required to complete the rate is focused moving forward. Quote, it's important that we take the time to properly, analyze data and take a deep look at suggestions in order to avoid making major changes. That might shift the balance too far in one direction elsewhere. So you be Johann road. They said that increasing. The viability of a healer focus role. Something specifically mentioned developers which is important because generally in a raid, you have a diverse group of classes or diverse group of load outs to complement, the play style of everybody in to make sure that you kind of have your basis covered with the game playing on exit. You're going to have to face and what I experienced in the operation dark hours rate is that everybody had to go in with the same high DPS build with the same skills in that there was no room for diversity in order to be able to just clear the first boss, and that's like super frustrating, because it kind of takes the fun out of it. And the thing that Steiner, and I were talking about on this week's episode of what's good was that clearly raids are taken from traditional MO's raids have on memos have way more players in them. They have way more diversity and of skill sets across the player base within your rating group, and more importantly, there's more ways to get the gear that you. The need for the raid in traditional memo's than there is in the division two. And I think this Aren g Luder shooter and tally doesn't necessarily lend itself to being raid, ready. When you lock your players to a specific build in order to be successful in the raid. And that's what I think, destiny kind of, you know, has been successful at with their raids is that they allow players, whether they're a warlike one hundred or titan total sub classes, right to pick the subclass that, that works. And obviously, there are certain weapons that do better than. To do better than certain bosses, and things like that. But. With everything, right? You still can have a more diverse makeup of players than you can have in the division two's. Right. Yes. That's that's accurate. I mean to be fair, we need to learn more about it. I feel like it was so hard and discouraging that yeah, I haven't heard enough about different builds, if people are mixing in say, all shotgun with you know, there's probably strategies that are still being found, which is interesting. But yeah, it look it's played a lot of raids like you have and is very off pudding, because it's so difficult. But the biggest part for me again is trying to get people together that I can do this with very challenging. I would actually really like to. But I tried to do it. I went into the division to discord on the Saturday night. We talked about on Monday, and I was up super late with just a Suba. Random group hard to hear them, and we barely knew each other. But for hours, we try to, but I would like to play with the team altogether that alone selves, very difficult. Well, it's tough because Percy like I mentioned with the way that they are in g loot drops in the division to getting eight people. That have enough damage against Leeds weapon damage critical hit incredible. I didn't know how to use the recalibration statement station. It's just it's rough rough joss. That is what division to is. It does strike me. It is not following the trend of other games. It digs into the artists past of what massive as always done. It is still a talk about it as a spreadsheet shooter, and it very much is sticking to its guns there. So when yes, exactly one big. Con. That's why said twice one big controversial thing here is that the players have an advantage. There were going to put a portrait in the White House cross all consoles of this the team that did it. So everybody's like what? It's harder on console so we don't get our photo, and then ran into the problem with, like, all right. So they are doing it. They're gonna put photos of everybody from each console that did it. Good. That's the right call. So there's a little bit of an update here 'cause they released that, you know, everyone finished they release the official confirmation of who were the first teams to beat it on three teams beat the raid within thirty minutes. Of each other. And yeah. Like I said it was about five hours after launched and as I recalled console players about thirty six hours, developers of vision to say they will honor each platforms teams, not just the first to beat the new games raid, and this isn't gain in terms of putting the photo in the White House of those folks. So that's nice. That is the one thing I think they responded, very quickly. But that's the right call like the teen the place that would have exaggerated the issue because there are people who worked very hard in the face of this to get it done. And in fact, they did and are getting recognition. That's gotta feel awesome. Thirty six hours. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's have. I mean destiny is going through similar stuff with twenty. I watched to still ask wish. Yes. So I think we need to get away from rates that take up entire days and people were barely eating why they do them. You know, so all right on to our next story Neo to alpha Tess. It is coming soon. This is from Michael mcwhirter over a polyglot rounded this up. There is a new trailer. Teaser came out for this says, just as it did with the original Neo developer team ninja will give select PlayStation. Four owners early access to Neo to as part of closed elva test. The test will run for may twenty fourth to June second. So that's Friday through three time. I don't know. Maybe it's a Friday, Friday. I almost had it on Twitter team ninja said that the closed alpha is designed to quote help gather feedback for development. It sounds like the alpha will be limited to a small pool to quote, ensure the team can manage the feedback there are no plans to expand the alpha at the moment. But please keep an eye on our channels for more in the future said team ninja. Ennio two's, development L. Michael is saying if Neo twos, develop anything like the first games, there may be future opportunities to play test the sequel before the official release, which I think is still plotted for twenty nine hundred somewhere but it doesn't have official release date. And this was just I think announced last year at three. So get team ninjas Neo sequel, Kamen, maybe getting that closed alpha. So keep an eye on that Andrew. Did you ever get a chance to dig into Neo? It's very yeah. It's, it's not you know, it's not an engine guide in exactly. It's not sick hero, dark souls. But it's in it is in that world. And I've heard nothing but good things about it. So regardless. I'm still very excited for everybody. That was a fan of it that the sequels come in, and hopefully get seal and more game play out there. We got to see some in this little teaser trailer. So be sure to check that out if you haven't yet. Sony had a lot of like updates internally has been talking about a lot of stuff. One thing that came out of the woodwork that I hope wasn't already covered that I pulled up was that Sony has said that the big exclusives, like goes to Shema last of us are still plan for PS four. They want to add clarity to this, because there has been questions like is the ghost. The next gen game is going to shift is going to go away from PS four. So Cowan Stevens over rounded up some of this information, and I thought it was be good thing to talk about Callen says Sony confirmed that the biggest PlayStation four exclusives will still be coming to the current generation pencil, but they didn't specifically rule out them. Appearing on the next generation, PlayStation five during a Sony investor relations day presentation president and CEO of Sony interactive entertainment. Jim Ryan spoke over a slide including key art, for the last of us, partout death stranding and goes Shima. That focused on the critical role of PS four over the next few years, the quote that he spoke over this for the next three years, or so PS four will be the engine of Sony. Interactive Entertainment's engagement and probability probability. They mean profitability, maybe not engagement and probability as we seek to keep the existing owner base engaged in delighted and attract new owners from different markets and different. Demographics said, Ryan speaking over the side in this, we'll be massively helped by an outsider roster of new and exclusive games that have yet to be launched. The story continue the inclusion of these games and the PS four Centric, slide confirms they are still planned for the current generation. So there's a little reading between the lines here, though these comments don't rule out the possibility of them hearing on PS five and also, maybe naked receive some cross generation releases that has been an ongoing discussion is well. An incubator session that followed the presentation, PlayStation, heads suggested Sony is exploring PS five cross Jen play with PS four via the backwards compatibility there. So I mean I don't know. Did you ever think these weren't coming? What do you think of the news? I mean, this is the same news that we've had. Yeah. Confirmed that these three titles are going along chump, PlayStation four for a longtime. He's just reiterating that, obviously, if they were going to be PS five launch titles. Of course, they would launch on PS four as well. Particularly since we've heard that PlayStation five will be backwards. Compatible with PS four doesn't make sense that they wouldn't launch on both consuls. Yeah. There is. There is a strong possibility. We're going to get one of these sooner than we think. Yeah. Thinking that we haven't really heard much about release dates really for any of these, and that means either, they're, they're ready. They're going to be ready sooner than we think, or they're going to be out next year. We'll be part of the launch slate. Five. I believe that, that ghosts Shema's farthest out, I'm just making that up. But I mean I mean based on what they've shown in the order to you could write for that. I agree. I think we're probably going to get of all of these. I would imagine we would get death strand. I know it's crazy to say, yeah. I also was thinking that I'm like there's a chance that it could come out this year, still so muse been teaser trailer, Tim. And I were saying, like, you've gotta have a reason if you're going to put a trailer out, maybe released eight coming, but it would be nice. I mean, they have a lot of Vail ability in fall this year. They don't really have anything coming down the pipeline. So I mean that's of the scale and this, we don't I don't think we know for sure with last of us to as well think they've ruled out twenty thousand nine haven't, but we have discussed release dates for the last of us to and win. Don't we discuss? Right. I still maintain that. It just doesn't quite make marketing. Sense to release to Dombi style games in the same year as I party exclusive, especially with how well days gone has done like they wouldn't it wouldn't make sense to me for them to step on that success with another zombie title, especially from their star developer. So I don't I don't know that they won't need it. That it would be better if they push it to spring, twenty twenty it's a fair perspective. I mean, you could also say, hey, I'm gonna games are doing so well this, you get another one. Like I know what you're saying that you don't want to the marketing. They spent a ton of money, we know in days gone, and it seems to be paying off a bit women. Get the got second best selling in April. Right. But I don't know how well numbers wise it. Did did we get numbers on days gone, yet, he think firm, I don't believe we got a number two number two on MP for April, but I haven't gotten a total sales unit. They said it was the highest selling game for Sony bend, and it was the seventh highest, PlayStation, exclusive causal. Yes. Okay. By the pulp, yesterday's news. But anyway. We don't know when the coming, they are going to be PS four that continues to be the narrative. And, and you're right. It it's kinda just telling us what we already know I'm sure some of you feel that way, you're like, yeah, we know that. But it does continue to be a question. Is it gonna shift is death straining to get pushed his last like no we're pretty confident? All these will be goes as Shema in particular. You know, I think was one of those. So, so, yeah. Let's see. Did we have anything in between hair? Yeah. I mean what do you think? Andrea for for should we jump to the telltale story. I. Yeah, I think so just because this, this other one, I got along great. Okay. Let's jump over to this quick story that telltale games are being pulled from. The Gog the geo G storefronts are you sad about it BARRET. Barrett is. Yeah. But they'll hopefully get them restored somewhere. But here's what's happening. Telltale games remaining game catalog will be delisted from the digital storefront geo g do they say God is, that's just me. They're also delisted from steam as last year. Yeah. So this is I feels like the last spot. Right. So they'll be delisted from the digital storefront on Monday may twenty seventh according to the announcement from GIO g the delisting is the result of tell tales tell to- game studios kosher last year. So the move will see games like the wolf among us Marvel's guardians of the galaxy Batman enemy within tales from the borderlands, as well as salmon max and puzzle agents here is deleted from GIO G 'cause whereas who purchase those telltale games prior to the delisting will retain the games in their library. So you shouldn't have to worry about them disappearing or anything. Tell tells the most popular game series, the Walking Dead was removed from geology, and other digital retailers November of twenty eight teen and other telltale games including series based on traffic park monkey island and back to the future where moved around the same time telltale games Walking Dead has since been revived through the game store under its new publisher sky bound games. We know telltale shy. Down in twenty eighteen. And so that's what led to a lot of this. And then there was an update from two K or from euro gamer. That said two games has confirmed to euro gamer. It is working to get tales from the borderlands back on sale as soon as possible. And yet as they mentioned before it was recently pulled from steam and is going to be removed from GIO on Monday. So lock going on here. If you wanna get those games, they're getting the sounds like you still have time to get them, doesn't it? Yeah. Two days and you'll keep them in your library, now's the chance. Yeah. If you don't have it, otherwise, I guess, because of all the many contracts is that how this is going. Somebody's got to get them into epic store is that I'm saying jokingly. Jokingly steam, obviously not every game is going to be picked up by somebody like sky bound or two K. Right. Not all of those titles like the wolf among us was didn't have a co publishing partner. So that game is kind of lost digitally for good. But they're the good news is that there are retail versions of almost all of these titles that are still floating around in the world. So we talk about like, digital preservation, and in an era of digital streaming, there are physical, retail copies of almost all of these titles, still available. So that's, that's good to know. But yeah, if you guys are interested, and you still want to get a copy of some of these games. Get a couple of days left. Yeah, what I was thinking about is. I assume that, you know, these franchises are out, sort of are they still like for sale or people picking them up? You know, is that what's going on that kind of got to put them on hold from storefronts until somebody says, okay, now that I own the wolf among us franchise in is that maybe what's going on? I'm not. Totally clear. In other words, on why they're getting pulled and not. Oh, sure has to do with the liquidation of telltale these meeting. We know that guy picked up the Walking Dead stuff. Right. Maybe this other stuff has been picked up, although tales from the borderlands it looks like to K as obviously in control of now. So I think that's work to be done. In other words, these will come back eventually. Yeah. I mean, it would be nice since t h two Nordic is buying everybody. It's exactly what I was thinking up lot. I'll tell tales I Pete, they have a shit ton of IP just added to that list of almost two hundred IP. You already have not. And that's and that's where I was going with what I said before about the epic game. So I'm like, oh man epochs got all the money put him on your store and buy the franchises while you're at it. If that's out could definitely afford to buy that IP for it may not really be of interest to them. And I'm not trying to say this shouldn't come the steam, by the way, I don't wanna be painted as an epoch store fan boys value by them. Valves got the money in order to be able to. Afford acts well, but they don't care kidding more. They won't even make ever. That's it. That's story yesterday. It was interesting. You know that Gary and I had a nice chat about it sabre. Yeah. Wanted to remake half life to the folks did World War, Z, bro. We're good. I mean to be fair like I probably would have said the same thing. Look like I really appreciate it, but I would love to do it myself someday and thank you. But no. We'll we'll do it ourselves someday. So could you know that they're never going to do it? No. But at least I let black Mesa happens, though. I go and the index is out there, so it's coming eventually. Right. And they're working on their VR index platform right now. So they, they did say, remember it was either last year, the year before they, I know it's like everything takes forever. They said they were working on games again. Remember when gave came out and said that Dont'a was working on a game, and they just bought them, but valve is well, yeah. Remains to be seen actually seen. So, yeah, maybe we've got some required reading. You it is a big story this one, I it's been reported a few places, but I pulled from games industry biz from Brennan Sinclair, so Sony interactive. So Shawn Layden was stressing. The chairman sorry, Interactive's chairman, Sean, Laden was stressing, the importance of diversity in the studios and the game play and everything that they do at PlayStation. So this was in a center stage address at the collision conference in Toronto the other day, where Sony interactive entertainment. Chairman shown Laden delivered advice on fostering creativity. From games industry perspective to a more generalist tech startup audience. What he said was the video game industry straddles creativity innovation, entertainment, and technology in ways. Unlike any other industry, our fans are boisterous, passionate vocal, and extremely unforgiving. The lessons learned since the birth of the PlayStation back in nineteen ninety four conserve many of you. Well, whether you're a founder entrepreneur. Startup or starting a business through this next wave of innovation late and talked about Sony's task managing thirteen game development studios across three continents stressing that the company focuses on creativity and quality in its products because it's no use trying to have one if you lack the other. So basically just skip ahead a little bit here. They what he said, was, we empower our development studios to constantly pushed, the boundaries of gaming and give them opportunities to experiment. And explore we encourage them to take risks. We enable culture that learns for mistakes, and failures as leaders we encourage developed developers that fiercely share new ideas, we try to be approachable, billable response say a lot to say about this. He showed up with the example that sucker punch, which is a North American game. Developer went onto the there were thinking about making the next infamous of course because infants did pretty well. And sucker punch wanted to do goes of Shima said Japan and rooted in all that culture. And so they said they were. Very proud of the fact that one hundred percent American development team was researching honoring, you know that culture and so they're really just saying we need more of this, and well, and they also give the example of media molecule, and how they made what Sean leading calls a conscious effort with greater outreach to make their studio one roughly one third female, which is incredibly uncommon in the video game development space. And so it's a really great article again games industry biz. It's a nice write-up up over there from Brendon Sinclair, we references his stories on the show all the time. It's just way, too long for us to go into on the rest of this show. And you could use a little time to digest it versus Mejias blab boarding it out. But is important topic. In a good one and yeah. Coming on the heels of Phil Spencer's blog the other day we talked about yesterday. So a lot of good required reading for you out there, unless any news broke, I believe that as most of the big stories for today, and go sashimi Andrea is so far away, if I wanted to know what is coming to mom and. Crop shops around the world where it I look for you would go to the officials of coming software across each and every platform as listed by the kind of games daily show, host each and every weekday do to. To, to know. Love friends like jazzy version of Jiang, Greg do once that I've been trying to imitate it. Did you? I never occasionally learned here. Unique snowflake. I love it. I try to mix it up. See, I used to do like, oh, whatever you'll hear it on another show. Maybe tomorrow. It's nobody Mike. All right. So what's coming out today, decent swath of stuff, we got pathologic to part, one on the PC, total war, three kingdoms on the P? C T T, isle of man ride on the edge is coming. Switch battalion nineteen forty four eastern front on American fugitive and wonderboy returns and star sky are all coming to. Switch abstract ball. Run clam man and Overlander. That's four different things. By the way abstract ball. Run clam in overland are all coming to BC. In addition to blood, we'll be black blood will be spilled, end vampire, sorry, vampire and monsters hidden object games. Coming to see more PC releases beyond this as well. Darpa zombies in the city and swine HD, remastered who'll be available worldwide on PC. So we've got some new dates coming in as well. Andrew, you actually just pulled a couple of these as we were going live universe online. Yeah. So this is the big one daybreak games announced that DC universe online is set to launch and then intendo switch, this summer fans will be able to experience three hundred. I kind of DC characters on the go with handheld mode TV mode options for the consul. And yes, as you can imagine Greg Miller is losing his God, damn mind. If you go to his Twitter account, he is tweeting about it, it was so funny because I was about this. I was going to tweet it to him. And I was like there's no way he didn't see this announcement. And of course, a bazillion people have like added him to Greg, Greg. Good. Did you see? DC you switch. Yeah. I thought that it was like I thought it was a dead game, but I was mistaken to our savvy fans will be very mad saying that so that is a cool announcement. If you guys are big fans you can play it on the go on your switch. I'm coming to XBox game passes dead by daylight metal gear survive and more. Plus, we've got got robots the feeling lead adventure from developer doing soft and the catnip covered team devolved digital will reach the Nintendo, switch and PC later this month. I really love their press releases so much this classically informed side, scrolling blends elements of mega man, blaster master and metro patriot to the internet's all time. Favorite animal will also giving it a pilot. -able MEC sounds awesome. So on thirtieth, and then got panache digital games and private division today announced the release date for ancestors, the humankind odyssey. The game will launch for PC via the EPA game store on August twenty seventh twenty nineteen and digitally on PlayStation. Four. An Xbox One in December. So that's, that's quite a big gap between PC and council on is usually it's the reverse usually we get a conta- launch first, and then a PC optimization later on. But do you think this is another EPA game store exclusive may maybe but I don't know that that would account for the difference in the release dates actually because it's a smaller studio. Isn't it from an excess asan's? Yes. Patrice injuries. So I think presumably the teams covered it for for the games cast. Remember Devon saw. We sent Devon Sawa to Montreal to go and play ancestors. He talked about it on the games cats here for that one that one. That one, I think that was why. But anyway, it's probably just because they were developing on first and smaller development team, maybe take some time. I don't know. Private division is a take to inter-active label. They've got money. And we've seen that take two has done deals with EPA game store already look at Borland's three another. Maybe you're under the take two interactive label as well could be could be. All right. That looks like it takes care of all the big new release dates and release dates rights. I believe so went over let's see the XBox game pass off. You already summed up, there was a bigger list on major Nelson's blog, you can check that out if you want to know what's coming out over the next several weeks on games, pets friends that are watching live on twitch. We love you guys. Tune in live every day. But don't throw me you're wrong about a game update until we've gotten two new dates yet. What was it even about? It was about DC you. Oh, oh. There yet. Yeah. Come on throws a bone. We got your back, shaking my fiscal Kevin any messages for enemies that are watching messages for enemies messages for friends. I gotcha. Got to be so dark, Kevin. What do we tell the kids? Yeah. Deals of the day. This comes from warriors sixty four Andrew found this one is well, everybody's golf peaceforce twelve dollars and ninety six cents on Amazon. That's a deal good game for under thirteen bucks. It's a good fine. Check it out over there. 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So right now, they're offering our listeners fifteen percent off your first order, go to third. Love dot com slash games to find your perfect fitting broad now and get fifteen percent off your first purchase. That's third. Love dot com slash games. For fifteen percent off today. Very much Andrea. And they get your sponsors. All right. Let's get into some reader mail. Let's see. I one coming in from, let's see TIs. Let's go with this one says, what's good Franjieh, as to of funnies most adept shooters. I'm curious to know if any of you enjoy playing with gyro motion aiming when it's a ported I play a lot of split. Tune to Andrews are shaking your head. I play a lot to which has fantastic motion controls. I'm so used to find tuning my aiming using motion that playing twin stick shooters. Without it feels archaic Fran, I assume this is similar to what PC players experience when comparing twin sticks to keyboard mouse, though. I'd imagine filing taxes, using a regular controller would make it difficult dork burn. Those are words. All right. So let's see. Yeah. Then some the question, do you think that motion controls are not more popular and shooters, due to the higher learning curve, or is it that they still carry the stigma of being childish spawned from the gimmicky motion controls of the we area. Thanks bunches. Andrew enjoy London and your Spice Girls, concert Francey tomorrow. With no, Mike, Mike stay wonderful. Thank you for keeping up with the show and knowing so much about us in my filing taxes. Which is my main new says, you know. And are you shaking your head? You're not into it. No, I do agree that what they're doing with the gyroscope with aim is something that's really intriguing. Particularly. I think of what Nintendo was attempting to do with motion controls with arms taking a very traditional Jon Rao in video games. The fighting game genre. And adding this new mechanic to it the really let you find tune your input controls for a fighting game in a way that we really hadn't seen before. But it was so different in new unique that a lot of players. I know that tried it were having difficulty wrapping their heads around. And even though it did allow you a lot more precision what you learned the mechanics. But I think we've spent so much time playing with dual sticks. Now, if you think about over the last really the last three consul generations, we've had the dual sticks and we haven't really had another input method, that's broken through and really surpassed that. So I appreciate what you're saying here, and you're. Right, that it does carry a stigma of being childish, because it's mostly associated with more of these Nintendo focused titles, so doesn't mean that it's worse. It's just not something that a for you also have to have the right input. In other words, like if you're playing PlayStation, just because it has gyro. You don't suddenly have to quote full sources of input. Like, in other words, it'd be a little hard to like, steer yourself around, while moving you could do it. I personally I haven't played a game like that. Let's say it's a shooter in, you're using the stick and moving around. So it does tend to be on stuff like switch, and we bought forms like that. I think, yeah, when it's done. Well, like metro prime, when they converted it to that I was really impressed. They changed from the whole lock on system. And at first, I was like, oh, no. You know, they're changing it but it felt great because I like eight and actually when you tweak it, it feels pretty good. And you're right a lot closer to what you experience, mouse, and keyboard, because it's the same difference as long as the input is fine grain enough. You're aiming and shooting. And you'll see this in VR games a lot actually. You know, actually, maybe that's the big comment here is that you are going to be doing this a ton in VR too. Yeah. It's not like a different way. It's like the only way to do it with an actual, you know, Ghana radical in your hand or whatever. So anyway, I actually dig them when they're done. Well, I just, you know, again, like I'm playing PlayStation or XBox like I don't know how to do that in less. They release like custom, you know, a pointer type control for those otherwise, I stick the mouse, and keyboard. And yes man, does it make a difference in games like division, too? So a timely question, it sure does onto our next question from BJ, Bernardo says hi, y'all question about the future V three with time to think about it now. And a few state ablaze state of plays in the books. Do you see Sony coming back to e-3 next year in twenty twenty with Microsoft already having something nearby? But not at three do you think they could leave us as early as next year without Sony? Are you guys still excited for three where it was like without Mike, soft already having something nearby, but not any three? That's right to Microsoft is at e. But they're just not inside the Los Angeles convention center. They tore their booth out right for that there's a mixer booth inside. Anymore. Right. So because they, they do what they do is they utilize the, the stage presentation area at the Microsoft theater to do their hands on demos. That's what it is. They did last year. So I'm not sure what their plan is for the show. Similar. I thought it really worked out, well, and thought that it was a really nice utilization of their own branded theater like why not it's there a lot of money as well. He is very expensive. I've paid for you know, worked with in those booths and all the fees, and I always joke about witches or it's insanely expensive because, yes, union dues and all this other stuff. Yeah, it's that in addition to eat three is now becoming a question of should it be more public which some publishers don't like that. So maybe we're getting off track here. But things are indeed changing question is, do you see Sony coming back? I mean, if you mean back inside the show floor, I think no, that's the trend. You're seeing. Yeah. Microsoft, Sony, not necessarily think about it. If they announced, either at the end of this year or early next year dates or, or launch window for PlayStation five it would be, I think there's definitely. Argument to be made that if PlayStation brings the hardware, the new hardware to eat three next year and or has demos of new games, getting not only members of the press, but members of the public hands on time out of show likey three would make a ton of sense. There's people out there saying, well, why doesn't place just do their own event into that? I would say because asking people to spend money to come to a PlayStation, dedicated event like PlayStation, experience is not the same draw as getting people to spend money to come to an event like e three where they can see multiple publishers multiple platform holders, etc. Etc. It's like the difference between somebody wanting to spend money to go to something like a Pax prime versus a guardian con. Right. Right. Because they're very different shows because one is hyper focus on very specific type of game. And then one is a much larger like cross section of glacier. Yeah. So I. I wouldn't disagree that it might make sense. But I would be surprised if they flip flop that fast. But also. Yeah. Why not just have your own event? You know, almost like you're getting in vain of guardian cons or PlayStation experiment. I said, why not I said, why not Fran? Don't do it which why both why not both come to eat three and bring PlayStation experience. Like that's I mean, that's part of the, the time they've got time to make twisted metal TV show have money that's like the time, you know, or you know, meaning you have to make vertical slice of your games for that date. And I mean there's a lot that goes into it, but I'm not disagreeing. I just think it'd be surprised if they suddenly flip flopped, and we have seen three is it does seem to be going the other way like Nintendo got out of doing the press conference. They started doing direct and everybody starts doing that. Then there's more of their own events than EA pulls out. You know, then, you know, Sony's pulled on Microsoft's run the show has a bigger presence now than they did when they were doing the press conference because they have the competitive tournaments. True, they flip the wake what they're doing the style. It's right. It is more of a community event in a lot of ways. But you also get your hands on with everything. Absolutely. So, yeah. Anyway, we'll, we'll see I don't personally see Sony going back there. I actually think he three is going to be in a different form next year because of the just the amount of people that's gone off the show for that's a lot of presumably missing revenue in less. They somehow mixed it up and filled those spaces, good. Just make it south hall. Yeah. But again, like, if you're three and you're, you are making money on the show. In addition to all the work that goes into a but, like what we now you're down to half the shows is maybe, maybe maybe scribe to this, the school of thought that three is dying going away on for three. It's gonna be great. I've made a lot of appointments for games. I'm really excited for it's good to be an awesome show, one, one of Argo. Now. Now I can't get break in barring because you ask Deisler play this unannounced, western action game. You guys it's going to be great. Three. Devas hopefully just make up whatever. Okay. I think that's probably good on questions for today. Let's do our squad up coming in from demon waffle. Actually, I I've seen around chat, good to see in squad up demon waffled, the username on PS four is demon waffle, six, just like it. Sounds demon waffle six and what David Scott here is real name has the say as I recently got a job at a game studio in LA. I just moved here Zona. Yeah. Congratulations. I was talking to him about interviewing places and congratulations. Seems like you done. Did it now. I just moved here from Arizona and would love to play some games with some best friends. I've been wanting to get into Dulles, but most of my friends play at times that don't match up with mine now that I work later in the day, later in the day, shifts, I'm looking for people who play after ten PM Pacific time that FM three hundred score time on twitch after ten pm Pacific time. I'm down to play apex, dauntless or any other. Other free to play game. So check out demon waffle, six. And thank you for getting your squad up. And remember get yours in, you don't have to do it by day. I mean, sometimes we go back if there's no new squad ups, we'll go back in the list, you can always dot less cross play, you can be playing on XBox as PS four or game store and you can play with Dima milwau- fix outstanding point. Andrea, expect a kind of funny guild to be created ASEP. I assume it already is, like, what helps out how the community normally but that's a good point hundred players per guilt really better than division to get fifty. No. I'm picking on all show today. We love it. All right. Let's check into your wrong, and see if there's anything so I missed this one from yesterday. I gotta give shout out to our friends at digiorno pizza when we were doing your wrong yesterday. We also were talking a lot about that teach Newark story. They said, we will send every kind of funny patriot aver, every kind of funny. Erin, a free pizza coupon for every teach to nor game that sells over one million copies, keep best friend. You heard it here for every vermilion cells over a million copies. Wow. What if something blows up, it's like two million pizzas. I mean. No. Think of how many patrons are on our on the are the, the patriots for kind of funny, right? Oh, that's good point. You're not gonna free pizza coupon for every cells over a million copies, because we were talking about there's just too many games because they have over they said, they have around eighty games in development of which forty eight of them are unannounced. We're like who's funding the development of all these titles, and all that we were like there's no way that they're going to be big triple A's, because it's just too much money. But I like giorno love it. But I also it took me a second, obviously, if it's just going to the patriots unless you get a suddenly say they sell two million copies so million pizzas, they won't have to unless there's a million patriots, but it could happen. God, that'd be really cool. There were a million. We would need. Studio roasting. Kevin would exactly all right. What else did we get wrong potentially long when it we get wrong? Let's see. Let's see shit. I mean, I'm going to bring this up because I'm gonna throw a bone here agnosio us, so the argument that the five launch titles will come out on PS four PS four exclusive launches like kills on in intimacy didn't come out on the PS three, I think that's worth pointing out mostly because we know that the PS four is not backwards. Compatible with the PS three but the PS five we'll be backwards compatible with PS four. So I think it's a little bit of a different scenario here. But I appreciate you pointing that out. Else. What else are we got here? Well, we said that already. Oh, we missed a new date. The Nanto biologist says miss new day rooster teeth gains. Of course, you know, kind of funny is partnered with the restrict, let's play network. So this is extra bad that we miss this one announce vicious circle vicious circle pits for Merck's competing for loot against a terrifying monster who wants to kill them who will win coming this year for P C, you can check out official artigue games on Twitter. If you would like to see more about that game. Thank you Bye-bye Al just. A release date reminder from yesterday from Spencer, the house in fod, Amore, Ghana finally comes to PS four and Vida next week may thirty first thanks to limited run gains. Looks like everything doesn't it? Yeah. I do like Spencer's note here that says, in regards to teach doesn't just by all the old telltale games is due to tell tales p agreements. That's a good point for some of their titles. When it goes shooting rights for their video games with things like the Walking Dead wolf borderlands. They only obtain IP rights development publish that one game. So this couldn't just be bought from telltale liquidation, because the right still be need to be negotiated with the current IP holders and assure to be a costly venture. Yes. And no. The way that those agreements, work isn't is a little bit more complicated for me to explain like on the show right now. But that is a very good point. Still would like to see somebody do it. Yeah. I mean, either way, the end of the negotiate all of this stuff and just get done. So sometimes that gets locked up for years, we shall see. And then anabol- GIS confirmed. Maybe this is a confirmation that per the three twenty nine hundred floor plans. There is no mixer booth on the show this year. I wonder where it's going to be wonderful, be Microsoft eater. Maybe there's just doing as much as they can over there, which, again, makes sense, makes a lot of sense. All right. That's all the big news that we have for you today tomorrow show is going to be me and snow bike Mike cancels. Again, I feel like I was supposed to be on the show with them once. No, he got stuck on the mound. I think I hear earlier was he gonna yet he was going to come to the meet up in San Francisco. I missed the show. I think but he'll be here. Tomorrow is far as I know we love you snow bike my show just throw more than happy. Right. The whole thing and all that to jingle. Oh my gosh. I would love if you're watching now snow by Mike, if you'd like to do the run that they normally don't do that. Call now. Not gonna make them do all that stuff. So France just tired staying too late. Stop streaming. 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Rest in Peace, PlayStation Vita - Kinda Funny Games Daily 03.04.19

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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Rest in Peace, PlayStation Vita - Kinda Funny Games Daily 03.04.19

"What's up everybody? Welcome to kind of funny games. Daily firm. Monday March fourth twenty nineteen. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller alongside the busies leading the business. Andrea rene. Let's get grab it. Sure. Does it new? I haven't seen this one. This is not near. This is one of my shirts that I got in Tokyo came back from T G S. Last fall. Very nice rain. Minnesota a lot of teacups on if you're an audio listener does and it's got. Got the tie which I have gotten really into lately. Yeah. A lot of the shirts in Tokyo. Head ties down into it. Also, it's March what happened. Vajna flash. So this I'm so division on the brain. Now. Andrea just like so insane to get to the fifteenth. Once we get to the fifteenth. I won't even have realized that the months gone. And then it's the kind of the Kansas City, meet and greet. And it just keeps tumbling out of control like that. And it's going to be three before you know, it, and then it'll be the end of three it'll be holiday season Christmas Oliver again. Yeah. Right around the corner. He's working harder. Then all going to be a wild one. I'm excited video games. They don't slow down. There's nothing. What did you do this weekend? You get twenty thing. Yes. I did. So I finally like, I'm using air quotes here rolled credits on anti. I did I actually didn't get the credits to roll. I don't know if it was a bug or it was because I wasn't the party leader figure out why the credits didn't actually trigger, but I can watch them from the the main menu. I believe but finish the story. And then I also, of course was in the division. Beta. It was really fun. I was so conflicted the whole time because I'd playing I've played this beta content times all the preview event that we've gone to. And we're going to have to play it again 'cause the progresses and carryover. So you did all the stuff you get all the little trinkets and stuff for the game. Isn't it just that one little White House trinket for your backpack known? It depends on what you did. I made sure I did it all because I'm just participated. You got something. Participating in the beta the the American flag skin for the gun if you participate there's if you complete the dark zone intro mission. You get the little dark zone trinket for your bag. There's the the trinket you're talking for your bags. I just participating in. Then if you beat the endgame mission, you got a Capitol Hill patch, and I had to fucking have it all. Kit looks good and just as a heads up. If you guys are really excited about the division to Greg is we put up a very special episode called the division to recreate in Washington DC on what could games, it's a long form interview with khloe mood, Julian Garrity, and Chad Chatterton of the members from massive entertainment talking about all the in-depth work. They did. In recreating fuss, destroying Washington DC is really fascinating. I have really nice tidbit with Julian in the middle of the episode where we talk about if his team was looking to other groups doing games of services for inspiration or maybe things to avoid and it was a really interesting conversation. So if you're interested, please check it up dot com slash what's it is not on YouTube. But as an audio only thing because it was forty minutes long. We didn't have enough bureau Scher to cover it. And at this last event there was no capture available. So wherever you listen to podcast feeds, whether it's overcast or the items app. Play. You can also find out what good games. Dot com. If you don't have a podcast app installed on your phone. I might do that. I a drive to do that. We have division questions from you the audience, but I this is kind of funny games daily each and every week Dan variety platforms. We run you through the video game news, you need to know about if you like that be part of the show head over to patriot dot com slash kind of funny games where you can submit your questions. Comments concerns? Bad PS end names and everything else under the video game son, then tune in watch it live as recorded on twitch dot TV slash kinda funny games. If you're watching live, you of special job, go to kind of funny dot com slash you're wrong. And tell us what we screw up as we screwed up. So we can set the record straight for everybody watching later on YouTube dot com slash kind of funny games and rooster teeth dot com as well as everybody listening on podcast services around the globe. It's weird. I don't the printer. Just said, no, the producer note, everyone the office today and quit. So I can't show us doing around. That works. They wouldn't be talking about how the vita is dead dead officially dead dead talking about experiment companies now apologizing AMA and so much more. But I for you, remember, ladies and gentlemen, the kind of funny world tour is rolling on at the end of the month here in March. We're going to Kansas City, Missouri. You can go to kind of funny dot com slash events. Here about the flying saucer meet and greet that is open to the public and free to get into you have to bring your own money for booze and stuff. However, we're also with the planet Comecon there. We're doing a whole bunch of different panels me hosing, the superman one with dean Cain, Tom willing. Michael Rosenbaum Knicks Pino interview and Henry Winkler. I think Tim in eighty are gonna play some stuff on twitch. There's so much stuff. You can go over to kind of dot com slash events to find out about that. And remember them the weekend after that, we are in New York. Now, this also means that I'm sure my hotel will have bad internet connection. I need recommendations on where I can take a PlayStation for in New York to play division somewhere. Because I'm we're gonna be there a lot of days. I'm not going to be able to play division cable hardwired that'll be better. Is it going to be? But what are we gonna are even in a hotel? Did you book us in some Airbnb? I don't know. I'm just the guy who goes toe tells have either cables, and you can use while you're in internet. That's my thing. Do do. I remember back in the day. I stick with me back in Missouri. Right. When I worked on the newspaper. I did probably who've two thousand three about a place where you could go try XBox three sixties out and stuff like that. Make sense Thailand was two thousand five to six about China. Xbox sixties and stuff like a gamer is launch do those exist anymore. Those take off. I don't think saying cafes all over. All right. I got a lot to figure out when I go. So you might not realize this, but you can get a surprisingly fast connection by tether into your phone, depending on what your plan is. We're talking about before I'm grandfathered into the unlimited data. And if I do this Rome if I switch it over it's a whole thing. Why would you need to switch it over? They say when I click on it. We'll talk about it off air. Also. Thank you, the patriots, Tom Bach and black Jack today, we're brought to you by Brooklyn and head space. But I'll tell you about that later for now, let's begin the show with what as an forever will be the rope reports. Time. Five. Those are all right for real for the last time. No more talking about it. All right earlier last month, we talked about how the the the Japanese PlayStation site had enough data to say production ending soon on the PlayStation vita. That's when we said, our goodbyes we through the dirt on the coffin over a games industry. Bid biz Hayden Taylor. Updated the article that say the long death of the place should be the has finally drawn to close after PlayStation Japan, shipped its last batch of consuls, according to the official product page Sony discontinued the platforms to remaining excuse the news lines with last year's comes from Sony, interactive entertainment, senior, vice president here Yuki Ota who said production would end in two thousand nineteen and there were no plans for successor. So it's done. We've already cried our eyes out about the Andrea we've talked about persona we've talked about free to Moore's veto was great machine screwed over. It's gone. Now, though we need to move on embraced the switch by about. All right. Okay. Then also bring persona five or switch. Okay. Never happen, Greg. You know what? No. I've heard rumors. Andrea there rivers. They have little avatars in weird names. And they're saying it's could happen persona deep in your heart. I want to believe. The harmless believe Andrea now, you know, how this business works in smash brothers. So there you go. So his cooking over there injury. Rene you're gonna be you're going to be eating crow one day to sure jeopardy. Take a video screen shot of this crow and somebody puts on an emulator illegally. And then it'll be on switch crush streams like this. It's monday. We're supposed to keep our hopes. Number to teach Nordic parent company has apologized for that AMA over on atrium. This is from Brennan's declare also were games industry. This. Of course, we talked about this last week TQ Nordic went on in a place. That's the wild wild wild wild while dark net of the internet and people fucking putting up child porn and all sorts of gross shit, and it's delisted by Google, and they went and didn't AMA there and was like what the fuck and they're like what? And then they're like, okay. No. We get it. And they're like, did you really get it? And there's a long back and forth, but picking up with Brinson Claire if you remember when asked for comment issue, Nordic AB co-founder Tiki Nordic AB, of course, being the parent company of TST Nordic co founder and group CEO, LARs wing, fours, initially said only that Brock this is the guy who would set up the had already addressed the matter. Six days later wing fours has offered his own statement addressed to. Hugh, Nordic employees partners and consumers. This letter is offer my sincerest apologies and regret for teach Nordic GmBH Vienna's interaction with the controversial website eight Chan last Tuesday, February twenty six I condemn all unethical content. This website stands for even if no one within the issue, nor to group whatever endorse such com content. I realize simply appearing there gave an implicit impression that we did as co founder and group CEO, Hugh Nordic aby, I take full responsibility for all of tissue GmBH is actions and communications I have spent the past several days conducting an internal investigation into this matter. I assure you, but every member of the organization has learned from this past week events. I take this matter very seriously. And we will we will take appropriate action to make sure we have the right policies and systems in place to avoid similar mistakes in the future as a Swedish based fast growing group. We firmly support equality and diversity. We are also working actively to combat discrimination, harassment and. Misconduct. We already in the process of building Newark processes based on the United nation. SDG's this est development goals and using JIRA global reporting initiative standards, and we will celebrate this work going forward and of statement, Andrea. Yes, Greg too little too late. No, I don't think it's too little too late. I think he absolutely needed say statement, I talked about that at length. What's good last week? And we talked about it a little bit on the show. I'm glad that he came out and said something now instead of waiting even longer. Clearly, he needed to make sure that his statement was properly worded and they were going out with the right message. Sometimes it takes a couple of days to really nail down. If you have multiple groups you have to talk to. And so I'm glad that he did this. I think that teach nor Nordic can obviously back from this. This is clearly the result of one person's actions, but the CEO has to take responsibility because it's their brand being put out there. We talk about this all the time that you should never blanket. Judge an. Entire company base off the actions of the few or of the single person. And I stand by that. I'm not saying that teach a bad company because of what happened last week. I'm glad that the CEO took responsibility and made an apology. Gee, I think the only thing. I would have done differently. As if I'm LARs and I'm doing the internal investigation. Right. I would have said that at the front because it did seem awkward or awkward in his seemed dismissive last time last week when he was like Brock statement is the statement. That's the statement. But I felt like that felt I understand where you're coming from your internally investigating not to mention you're on your heels. What the fuck just happened? It's still a thing of like, well, no, he's the guy who fucked up should he be the guy making the statement on top of it. What does he speak for the company? Absolutely. I agree with you one hundred percent that the CEO should have said, something sooner and should be only person to say something. But we all know how these legal teams are it can be quite complex. I'm sure they're lawyers were advising the CEO to be very cautious with his statements. I think the way they handled it was very poor last week. Does this make up for it? No. Is it a band-aid? Sure. Am I gonna be salty about this in a month? No. Yeah. Again, like this is what we talked about on the day when we were guess the day after when we're recapping all this year on games. I don't think that was one of your episodes. It was the idea right of. Okay. You've apologize now. It's like based on the given your words now show the actions, right? And so I mean that is the the the battle here. Right. The climb on this just like, yeah. Is it gonna matter? No. If they do everything, right? And they just get back to making games and doing the, you know, who cares. It was a a fucking weird stupid. Fuck. Why would you do that? But now you get to move on with the business of it. If that's what you're doing. And again, I think it is. You know worth pointing out, you know, as large points on a statement right there Swedish based company, like I don't, you know, there's a lot going on over there where I doubt for a lot of the leadership that English as a first language. So it is this whole thing of like what the fuck eight Chan this back and forth. Trying to figure out the actual interest in intricacies of it beyond whatever happened and not discounting Brock who I think did know what it was. And did all that different stuff. Clearly knew exactly it's interesting Tiki Nordic continues to boggle my mind at every turn. I even real company are they own everything. And they're gonna buy kinda funny at some point. I'm sure that's another thing they've acquired like what the hell why? Number three, the Witcher three game director or one of the Witcher three-game directors joined cyberpunk twenty seventy seven team this is Jody MacGregor over game or dot com. Conrad Tamaz key wigs who one of the tree of creative directors on the which three has joined the cyberpunk twenty seventy seven team in January. It was revealed that Sebastian upon also creative director on the Witcher three as well. As a narrative and setting director cyberpunk twenty seventy seven have left CD project read to work for blizzard, the new guide Conrad say because I'm gonna put your once. I went to him the mistake wits. Conrad maybe filling the gap adopting roles as vice president of the game development and design director for cyberpunk twenty seventy seven according to his linked in profile originally spotted by poster on Reddit those resume updates men. So you get you. That's how they get you. I'm all for anybody from the Witcher three team coming over and being on. I'm super cyberpunk. I loved what you're three even though I didn't get to to deep into it. I want to deepen a cyberpunk. I'm all about this are you where are you right now with your height for cyberpunk on a scale of one to ten it's like a six is that just because we don't have information on when it's coming. That's part of it. Also, these massive open world games generally aren't at the top of my hype list. I like an open world game. I like an action RPG first person which I prefer over third. But I just I'm like cool like the whole idea of cyberpunk as a narrative genre in media at large is just not something that I've ever been really drawn to. But I trust that CD project ride is going to take time with this and make it really great knowing all of the work that they did on the Witcher three and all the work. They did post launch on the Witcher that clearly set them up financially to be able to have the ability to do more development on cyberpunk than maybe they were afforded when they started. The Witcher three projects you're. Yeah. That that's the big. I mean, exciting pieces in this is no disrespected Gwent, I think which are three was city project Red's coming up hardy in terms of like holy shit. These guys are on another level. Now, they are AAA they you know, they can go toe-to-toe anybody industry, and then take the success of that the goodwill of that right of which three with all the deal free. Here's a thank you letter in the game to take all of that. And now have their next triple a major release on the horizon, it's going to be super exciting to see what the money time. And you know, I'm sure grow faith had since then is able to afford them for this game. Absolutely. And I think my hype will grow as we see more like after three this year. I think it will definitely go up a couple notches. Then once we get a little bit closer to launch. Because you know, there's just too much to be hype about right now, it's you got to save some hype. You got to understand number four dreams is going to have game templates built in. This is from Leon Hurley games radar. There's a great interview up there from leeann whole bunch of the media molecule team. I'm pulling a specific paragraph here though. There were people in dreams the dreams beta that just made props some painted others rigged and animated entire characters or designed complex AI logic for the community use lots simply took all this and used it to create something entirely new just using these things other people had made in shared. It's an easy or as it's as easy or as hard as you wanna make it and to make game creation even easier. The alpha releasing in spring twenty nineteen we'll be adding templates these according to creative director marquee Lee are quote, a starting point for a certain John of games. So we've got a first person shooter template, for example. It's just like a very simple white box version of a shooter. So you just take that and you can instantly start pulling your own art in and you have to worry about. How do I make first person shooter? We've done it for a first person shooter. There's a to decide scrolling platformer there's a whole bunch of really obvious genres driving a car different things like that. And quote again highly recommend going over two games Rita radar. Checking out this entire piece because it goes into a whole bunch of different stuff of the philosophy here. And the fact that they are really. Like, there's one of the medium alco team members describing as like it's a game engine. We've made a game engine. It's a game engine on counsel's. That's how they're going to try to talk about this and sell it, which is an interesting tactic. Because we've talked about it so much of the show of how are you going to get this mainstream? How are you going to market it to the masses during an NBA game? And I think that you know, what they've talked about putting out the just the career pack here that you can buy the spring when it actually releases just the creation, tools and sweets. That's a great way of getting people in there, and yeah, just making sure there's now thousands of levels in thousands of creation. So that whenever the full game does drop in. That's what's going to get other people in great. But I do also think that this is a great way of choline get cheaper. Now. Get into crater tools. I don't want the creator to play. What's created great? But then also when you do want to tinker around with it when you do want to chip away at a trophy or something like that. And you get in there you see. Oh, well, there are I can get into this first person thing that I first shooter template, and then see how it all starts to work. That's really interesting. Yeah. Absolutely set yourself up for success. Right. Exactly. I've always been excited to see what happens with dreams. I've always been curious about what happens with dreams. It seems like they're making some good decisions right now in terms of marketing messaging and everything else on very fascinating. But actually pays off because I've been so worried since this game went into stasis so ago. Yeah, you have very good reasons to be worried. I think we as people who are very heavily involved in the games industry side of video games at large have much different perspective on dreams because we've been watching it as it went into early access and then into beta and now we're you know, we're talking about these templates at their building. But I think about the person who's walking into like a target or best buy or game stop around the country or around the world looking at that on a shelf. Having never heard a single thing about what dreams is. And maybe not even knowing who media molecule is as a studio because quite frankly, the average game by doesn't probably even look at the name of the developments duty on the back of the box much like most people who go to movies don't know the name of the production company behind the film. Sure. And go how are they going to know what dreams is all about? I didn't still waiting to see what PlayStation is going to do from a marketing angle once we get to that retail point to go home. I gonna convince those people who have no idea what this is to play this game. Use that way. I think was an easy sell. Of course. Secondly was and he was he was successful. Whether you played the game or not that was always the thing. Right. He wants to us. And I remember seeing the I'll of it'll be interesting to see if. How much does the media molecule campaign of dreams really matter to it? You know what I mean? Because that's what they're waiting for. Right. They're like, we're putting out the creation tools, you'll have a whole bunch levels of some of our levels and people creating putting on their it strikes me as that you could let that ride in a fortnight or Minecraft way of like yet. The creator already did the beta, but like the creator just word of mouth. It's this is what it is. Right. And this is the creators beta the crater program and there's more coming eventually. But I don't think anybody's gonna be pounding on the door looking for the I think they're putting out there totally expecting hopefully that catches fire with the hardcore PlayStation audience with the people like us that are dialed into the gaming community with people who wanna play kooky crazy levels or create coup crazy levels, right? Because there are going to be plenty people. I think that by that. And when it drops that way, I think there's a large majority of people who pick it up are going to pick it up. Well, this is the game. Like, I don't I'm not really gonna wait till I got gotta see when they get to actually the media molecule storyline part of dreams. No, nobody really cares about that. Because again, the weird. Imp that were making taking things over, and it's all very cute though. It's cute. But it's also abstract like the never going to be sacked. Boy. No. Of course, not. Yeah. Because you can customize your exactly so. So I think you could cost my sack boy. Right. But that was the best part. That's the thing. That's the thing. You can have the little pouf ball amp. But I could have a little cat. No, no. You're always looks like the right? But it takes things it takes things over there's a bunch of other little Imps. You can choose from. We get with the glasses on them. So what the cat? Oh, you mean like the little nose looks like a cat. See I still feel. Well, it's got like ears and everything, but it's still the teardrop him. Now. It's like rounder, I'll show you you should show me because I'm pretty sure I thought you make an amp in the you're always have little and then you can take over anything can choose which impure want this fucking game. This is what I'm talking about. This is the nobody watching NBA is going to be in that game with the cat. That's the thing. I need create final fantasy. And that's the game. I need number five on the rope report. Apex hit fifty million players world. Rod congratulations to conversation earlier like is this where are we getting into the territory where it was with G and Minecraft? And like, hey, there's new milestone, no is super successful super successful. Congratulations everybody. So. Yeah. Congratulations everybody. And then yes, the st-. Story number six which broke as soon as we went here. Apparently, there's a problem with anthem. I'm getting as you get it. I actually heard about this over the weekend. And I didn't know if it would be worthy enough to talk about because it's hard to know. How wide spread this issue? Three paragraphs from Kentucky. How that we'll go from there? This is this is from Ethan gach Gotch got. I would say rates, right? RICHS gach gosh gosh gauche, it's even from Dhaka headline is anthem player. Say the game is shutting down and even sometimes bringing their floors. It's been a rough launch for by wears new shooter. And some PlayStation four players are now finding the game occasionally shuts off their system as well. Quote, win countering a crash or game air. Sometimes I get booed is the main menu or out of the game completely to the PlayStation for dashboard user who goes by the name for the masters posted on the game sub it over the weekend. But twice now when trying to match me on PS four it is completely turned off the rest of the threat is filled with other commenters saying the same things happen to them. Both the standard PlayStation four and PlayStation, four pro sometimes completely out of the blue other times while they're trying to exit the game the PlayStation four then treats it as an improper shut off as the power as if the power cord has been pulled their several reports on the game's official form of this happening as well quote. The console powers down will not power on using the normal method of pressing the PlayStation for button on the controller wrote one player. It is the same as if someone pulled the plug out without properly shutting on hardware, or if the power went out in the house, sometimes the button on the front of the council works, but other times I have to unplug the console and then plug it back in neither Sony oria responded for request to comment. Yeah. That's goes on like that. When they were saying oh here. One one player. He was at brick their council, quote PSA to anthem players on PlayStation that experience complete shutdown on the consuls stop playing the user the mad titan gauntlet posts read it last night, my place in the PlayStation has been completely brick to the point of not even turning because of anthem they said they really liked the game despite all the issues, and they just wanted to warn other players about the potential danger to the council in follow up Email to talk you the person said that they were playing on the call of duty World War Two limited PlayStation for which came out only year and a half ago. We've also gotten some tips. See this is a developing story. Obviously seeing that I haven't run into that. I'm playing on a PlayStation four PLO. I'm playing on a PlayStation for pro. But I don't know if they put out a patch recently because it was that I would last played on Thursday, maybe maybe Wednesday, and then I got into division stuff this weekend. So I haven't been back to anthem awhile. But you were playing last night. Yes. I was all your request to play too late. Sorry. It's okay. I saw that you were back in in in Greece. But I want to get aware that deal. See sassy episode. The final episode of the deal see for about another game that I'm sadly behind. It's embarrassing at this point. I just need to say no to everybody and just stay home every shirt. Yeah. Sucks. We know. Hey, no, more work. No, more friends. No more nothing just games catch up on everything. But so this anthem issue is obviously very concerning. I'm sure one hundred percent positive that people both at bio. Aware at EA and PlayStation are investigating this in working for fix because the thread that I saw was here's how to get your anthem refund into to do with actually like oh my gosh. Be careful. You could bring your console people were like, this is how you can convince Sony to give you your refund about like, hey, it's like shutting down the game and it's hard crashing. And quite frankly, I've had a hard crash in almost every single game. I've ever played on both my councils, quite frankly. And I just notice it more my place 'cause I play more on my PlayStation. I play more games. Exactly. And it's concerning because you know, you never want to run into a situation where you're getting any kind of data corruption or Dame junior hardware, not turn back on right? That seems like a super extreme rare case, which sucks, and like there's no getting around that that super fortunate, and that's what's interesting to speaking out of turn here. And I haven't read the article as we just did the peace there. Consuls do brick. I don't know if that's anthem right? Like that'd be the thing of like if there's one person on this threat of everybody being like him. I think crashes all the time, but his brick than maybe it's consul. It's very possible. I could be anthems of all the could not be like, it's hardware heartbreaks sometimes that sucks, and it's just part of owning tech. So just say, this is something you're concerned about obviously, you know, always be hitting that upload data. Every time you close your game to make sure all your saves around the cloud, so everything. Yeah. Everything else you can you can restore on a new system. So. Your hair looks good. Greg looks like I got one. That's doing some weird thing up there. Turn this way. Oh, I see it. Yep. While Andrea fixes me. I can't wait to see how the heroic look when it's done, but that's still so far away. It doesn't worry about. That's still so far away injury came and did the mom and ships. The officials vote coming software across each and every platform as listed by the kind of funny games Ayla show hosts each and every weekday to to to to do to. 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Good is everybody in the good place. The. Allen road into patriot dot com slash kind of funny. Games says hi, Greg. Andrea. I was in the open beta for division to this weekend. And experience a lot of audio problems guns, not having sound effects, and the grapple line effect lasting very long time. After repelling down it. I was on Xbox One. By the way, wondering if you experience any of this with your time in the beta, and of course, your opinions on Vig aim. I didn't need PS four pro me too. Yeah. I thought it would I was my headphones on place issue for pro to where it would be. I was shooting, and I heard my gun and other people shooting, I wouldn't hear their guns. Then I shoot I didn't hear my. And it was like, oh, the I didn't understand what was happening. I lot of missing audio files. A lot of pop in textures. I mean things that you would expect to see a beta hopefully, you know, this is stuff that's easily rectify of all with the last few patches going to be pushing before launch, and it will be gone on lunch day in this. I bet it won't be. And I and this is the thing this talk about you had so many conversations about this. With Anthony Wright of what we expect out of online game on day one. And yet every tons of fuckin- problems on March fifteenth weekend when I sit down and play and I wanna marathon it I'd so much fun in that beta I'm so ready for this game. Like, I was surprised even by myself. I was gonna start it. And I was like I don't know if these trinkets that I'm not even gonna use the game. Right. Like do. I really wanna earn them. Although I want to do why. No, I do like how much do I say a lot of things I want to video games and I never do injured. And so it was sitting down jumping in like, I don't wanna I don't wanna ruin it for me. Like, I hate doing. You said I've played these missions not all because I did that grand Washington hotel. Michigan, sleet, right, right, right? Here's where Brit died. Oh, here's where this. But I was like so into having such a great time. So and then when I I needed help for the final mission because unlike the endgame stuff, you get the one mission I went and did it with randoms, and we were struggling the whole way they tried to kick somebody out of the group, and I was like. We're not kicking this kid. You know what? I mean. It's a beta you guys can suck it up, and they're like, and so we went going and then at the end when we leave that the we got to a final rub in there. Like fuck this. And they left in the guy who wasn't any good. I can't do. I can't carry you through this. So I got a group together of best friends off Twitter, whatever good guardians joined you probably are group's played. Right. Exactly. Kind of funny audience there. It's not a diagram. It's a circle. So best friends. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah. No. It was in there. Plenty of faces. I'm names, I recognized from Twitter or a meet and greet. But yeah, we ran through and it was so much fun. It was it was it was better playing with them obviously on Mike and stuff because I didn't play with Mike and the first it was I such a great time. And it was like man -cation. We're all just capable players. We communicate was bullshit of like, oh, man. This guy Goodson through Waller this that and the other. But it wasn't like straps that much. It was awesome. I can't wait for more that game. I saw it. But yeah, I don't I really the guns not making noises at least in my concerns about day one stuff. Yeah. Exactly. Blackjack rights into patriots dot com slash kinda funny games this. Hey, Greg injury. What's getting a few days? Back the division. Two's director Julian friend of the show address a major concern from the first division bullet, sponge enemies, he said, you're going to kill enemies, much faster. But they're going to kill you much faster to which really puts the emphasis on cover based gameplay ain't that this was this back to blackjack. This was my biggest problem with the original division. Some of the heavies took forever to kill Greg spent a lot of times hands on now. Andrea to do you think this problem has been adequately solved are the heavy enemies and bosses let less spongy in European. I think they are because you have to take into account that the whole point of the. Game play style of the division to is that you're supposed to be utilizing all of your tools, and I found the most success when I was using both of my special abilities because I was one of the first perks that I locked because I was like, of course, I want to special tools to us. And then I also locked my second gun slot. And so if you're also coordinating with your teammates like I was playing with John last night in like we approached a room, and we're like, okay. Well, you're going to toss a grenade there. I'm gonna toss a grenade here. I'm gonna throw out my Chem launcher, which by the way, the Chem lawn starter, so fun. We are not paid by the division. You know? I'm just a big fan. They expect demo another day. So if you haven't played down you can play tonight. Right. And so like we coordinated like okay grenades here grenades. Here special tool throw up the turret. And then you're going to get this guy. This guy, we cleared the room like instantly. And I think that's what's really nice about some of the small changes that they've made in the way that all of those things work together. And of course, I think it only makes sense that if gonna make the bosses, you know, take less damage to take down that you can't be stronger to that would seem a little too god-like. Right. I think that bosses still take a in depending on your load out and what you're doing take time to come down. But it makes more sense the problem. This is what they've talked about at length Julian everyday, every every interview right is the fact that now when you're fighting a boss or giant heavy and they are taking shots you'll see their armor start to break and then pieces start flying off. And then they are just humans, and then they start taking the damage as you'd expect. I did feel that. Both the shots. I was firing the shots. I was taking hurt more. Like, it is that thing of you can't hang out. You know what? I mean, you got state cover you got it. And so you have to be really if you're sure you're down to that last guy, and you wanna come out and run up on them fine. But I had done it a couple of times where I thought it was in. No it wasn't. And there was another like crap. And I'd fall back and how they visually you can see who the heaviest too because of the way that they've designed the armor, and we saw that a little bit in the division as well. But it feels like it's happening much earlier. There. There are different obviously care if your classes you're going up against, but they all do feel like they have a personality, and they are doing I think to really get you out of your comfort zone. Whether it is like in the open world stuff in the very beginning. Where like, you know, the people are doing drugs, and they're running at you with batons to get you out of cover. If you don't take them down to that in the end game stuff, where it is that we were getting, you know, if you do those missions, there are specific members of black tusk that are they are going to try to flank you from behind they're using all of your tools against and that's awesome. That really did switch it up and keep you on your toes. 'cause I remember when they were like, you know, you're gonna hit level or in the endgame and black tusk is gonna invade the world, there's all these new missions. They are the technological advancements. They have like the Boston robotics dining dogs walking around like, she's just one of the operation. So as you're recovering like, a shade tech cash like one of the enemies had a little explosive RC car. Just like, no, I don't do. Exactly. No. It's great. And I so I think there's a trade off to. That is worsening of like, yeah, they're more powerful, you're more powerful. But I I never had a problem with the sponginess of the other guys. Like, I it was an RPG. I was like whatever like I'm shooting. Davis fucking. It wasn't fun though. Shots count more stuff. You didn't even play Kevin shut shut your cake hole. Kevin. All right. Yeah. Anyway in your all fucking fine. Now you coward. Dan has question that parlays into one injury was just saying Hello, Andrea. My girlfriend recently suggested buying a second PlayStation foreign putting the other a dual setup. So we can each play single player game on our choice of choice. Sorry while still being next to each other and interacting. I think the idea sounds great. But I'm curious about the logistics does that mean, we'll need two copies of each game. We'll should be able to use my account and get my PlayStation, plus games on a secondary PlayStation four, Greg since you have a similar setup with Jan. And Andrea with John can you share some of logistics of how this works, and whether we should expect to have issues with it for both of you. Do you have general tips about maintaining gaming no managing gaming time, while keeping healthy relationship. So this is a great question a dozen Volvo a little bit of logistics when it comes to copies of games. Sometimes it behooves you to buy dual copies, but you don't really need to for example. We have I have my primary PS four and Joe. Joe his and so if I buy a game on my primary, then I'll play it on a secondary the other PS four so that John can play on the primary because obviously it's unlocked for all of the users locally that are on the primary account. And so that's really easy way to get around having to buy. Genera obsessed with monster hundred world, that's how did it as well. So if you're not into the lingo, oh, I have a PlayStation four. That's my primary issue for. No. In your PlayStation for you have to go into your settings go over in Mark that as your primary PlayStation for what that does is that. Yes, you don't have to ping online opens the licenses for that. Anytime downloaded to that boxes. You can play without having to be connected to the internet. But what it also does? Yeah. Is any other anybody else assigned in on that PlayStation four on their account can play those games on a primary PS horse. Then you would go to the one that is not your primary, and then you would go to log in go to the store re download the game, and then you can play 'cause you're logged in under your license, but sometimes the licenses can get you have to reassign the licenses. They can get disconnected. There are sometimes you will hear from saying. Little things, but for the most part of work while I will say it's easier to go disk space for that reason. If that's something you're interested in. But, but then sometimes you run into the issue where the games like what you have to have the disc inside in order to play it. Because even if you've installed in downloaded it completely. It's like I can't play without the disc. So it's it's kind of a work around. Right. Like, it's not a perfect system is technically you're not supposed to do that way. But I mean, we've been making it work for five years. Now tips do you have about managing gaming time while keeping a healthy relationship. I would save. It's always important to put something into your calendar that you and your partner go and do outside of your space. So whether it be go for a walk together or something very simple or even like planning a date night or planning time with friends because it's really easy, especially on the weekends. When you're not working or in the evenings to just kind of sinking hole and put your headset on and then just not talk at all. Certainly John, and I have been guilty of that more than one occasion. And that's not a bad thing. Because clearly if you have a partner that likes gaming with you. That's awesome. And it's great that you guys share that mutual passion. But I would also think about games you can play actively together. And then make sure you get headsets because once you have your headset on you can actually hear them, even if they're sitting next to you on the couch. That's my problem. I mean, just like love and sex on kind of dot com. We'll tell you. It's all about communication, right? I think that's the thing. If you're playing a game together. That's that's great quality time. Right. But then it also is like if you're not or you're just planning stuff this works. Even if your partner's not playing drive the conversation of like, what's like this. We think it was good example. Right. Whereas like division beta. But if I don't hit these criteria. It's not the end of the world to me. So it was very much. I wanna play this. But if you want to do something else, just let me know if you wanna watch something you want to go somewhere to let me know Jen whereas for division weekend. I've written out the calendar. There's nothing happening. Doing like, I'm in my underwear playing. GTC? There's gonna be some people want to go to dinner. I'm like, no, I do not see anybody. I just wanna play this game. Please. Thank you very much. Justin, daas writes in two patriot dot com slash kind of funny games and says, what do you guys think about more and more games becoming services and streaming services without really owning? A physical game doesn't make you worry for collecting game. Does it make you worry about collecting for your games for your libraries? What is I mean? Yes. And no I have three paragon discs currently in my cabinet because there was a time where you could find paragon discs in the sale been at game. Stop. But it came with a sixty dollar in game credit code by the disc for like thirty bucks sixty listen, I was hard core back then. But now, it's like, it doesn't matter if I have the physical disk I can't play the game is gone. You know? And that's I think not just a digital gaming future that we have to look at and talk about but moreover, an online game future because even destiny I think about the high also have like four destiny discs from all the different versions and things like that. But it's like there will be a day when bungee says, hey, we're going to shut the destiny original destiny servers, right? Like, they're going to be like everybody's in destiny to and then destiny three will happen or whatever. And someday destiny servers will be done. And then I'll have this disc that I can pop in and. To server can't really do much with it. Yeah. It's it's weird. Obviously, it's like if you like collecting in get the physical copy, but you might not be able to assume just in hardcore kinda funny best friend has been around since beyond days. I assume you know, I'm not worried about it. Now, I don't for me. I beat a game and put it away. I rarely ever come back to even like, you know, this this weekend. When I was I was doing some for maintenance, right? Whereas in between stuff, I was like trying to work on just chiseling away the friends list just trying to get rid of it. Of course, I brought in those, you know, Greg Miller industry kids, they fleeced me out of the twenty five dollars. They didn't they didn't even put a dead, mice friendless. But I've got it down to like the teas now that I'm going through and eliminating all these people stupid idea to want to be the first person to two thousand friends, and I did it and it got me nothing except problems. I want it fixed before division. Anyways. I was doing that. And then it was like clean up the hard drive. And it was just man Spiderman I'm never gonna go back and finish new game, plus delete. You know what? I mean, the saves are all loaded. On the game. So I downloaded eventually. But inevitably like he's talking more about like streaming and Netflix on Netflix. I don't really wanna movies taken away from Netflix. I'm like, I don't I don't consume me movies that way where I want like in college. I watch over and over again growing up. I watched if over and over again nowadays, I don't in the same way. I really don't play games over and over again stuff that's been beaten when they evidently turn off the DC universe. Online servers. I'm going to be super sad. But also have that real moment of like, well, I really haven't played this game in four years five years, whatever. Well, and there's so many ways to get better new versions of the old things. Ju- played like Ivan think about games from the three sixty of the PS three era the copy that you have on disk probably doesn't look as good as the thing. You can stream or buy in the store today. Because so many games are getting remastered natural or even just like an HD upgrade facelift kind of thing. I think about a my in the what's the game studio. I have this bookshelf. And the top of it is video games in the bottom. Half is all DVD's. And I'm like, what am I going to do with my awesome DVD collection? Literally nothing because when I go out there, and I look at a movie, and I pull it off. And I go I could probably stream this in HD for like Bucker to or it's probably free with my Netflix subscription. So like water even have this disc anymore unless it's Blu Ray. And then it's it's different. It's always better. But it's it's one of those things that's like you gotta ask yourself. Does it spark joy in your life? And if it doesn't get rid of it Angelos game beats this rights into patriots dot com slash kinda funny games says do you in Amy way for C quote gaming financial crisis and quote occurring in the near future. No, I think a lot of people are having a lot of people are going to say it's happening in point to the layoffs point to the restructurings point all the stuff as I think we're gonna get more of those shoes. Dropping, but I don't think that's what's really happening. I think it is. That companies overextended themselves in now. Neither dial it back and get us back. I know that there's been a games in strap is opinion piece right now about red dead online is it really taking take two's stock price because that hasn't seen the surge is actually gone back since that's it's like, these are all people who not people I should say, these are all businesses and corporations that just thought one thing was going to happen, and it didn't happen. And I don't think that signals a crisis, but it's putting fear of God into them. But you look at like a flourishing indie market a flourishing. Switch a flourishing market. Exactly. There's so many success stories that we wanna look at being a triple eight publisher and overextending yet hard right now and scary. I'm sure for people at the top. But no it's business in. It's just how it works in the market. Correct. So maybe this is me completely talking out of turn it feels like the people like the dudes, and these boardrooms making these projections going this is what it's going to be are so out of touch or where the gaming consumers that today in twenty nine hundred. Eighteen that once we cycle out that generation of of people who are making sure that will come back to normal because like we'll have this new wave in this new generation of people in the games business that are innovating and looking at ways to monetize untraditional formats. Sure, you hope that's how it all goes. Right. And I'm not trying to talk shit about CEO's or anybody else that I'm not taking a blanket brush anybody, but you hope that. Yeah. The people who rise of those positions in the future are people that came up in the industry like us. You know what I mean? I do feel that you get your fill Spencer's. Exactly. That's a perfect example. You'd assume the top of so many companies, and it is like have you wouldn't did you do you play games? Like, do you know once happening? Prizing amount of them don't really disturbing. And that's where it gets interesting in the art verse business conversation, we always have right where I think, you know, theoretically, hopefully one day kinda funny gets big enough to have a real CEO that isn't me. And it's somebody who actually knows what time of means. And maybe they don't understand the the best friends. They don't understand the this. They wanna learn that they're interested. They're good people. But they understand business, and they understand what we're fucking doing wrong. And how we could lock that in and make it better and make sure we're here in another ten years. I'm assuming this happens twenty years in Greg. We need to make GIO Corsi in charge of everything. I agree. You know what? I mean. I agree. You do that. Can we start that GIO Corsi for kind of funny CEO? That would be he understands everything I assume I don't know he's losing weight too. Yeah. He's on this new fitness plan already hit up you graduate him. He's in. He's an amazing person. We love him very much round here. They it's time to squad up. All right. This where one of you the audience members right saying the patriot dot com slash kind of funny games. Give me your name username platform choice in why you need help. But video game. I read it here. The best friends coming find you and it really plays games together today, Tim curry, and he's helping PlayStation four that is stepping wolf Mafa Steppenwolf classic. Isn't too young. You don't even know some best friends the head of the division to launch gave the beta go after listening to Greg for the last few months, and I'm loving it. I live in Australia and play mostly in the evenings. Parentheses? I'm happy to play with people from other regions. If you like playing it at times PS name is Stephan wolf Mafa like the band Steppenwolf mixed with the band wolf mother. But it's mother M O T H A Steppenwolf from DC's, of course, from the hit film Justice. And then mafia was kind of like Martha for Batman v. Superman, probably a better reference. You know, what I mean, probably a better reference than these things if you need to spell it out again, go to YouTube dot com. Such kind of funny games. It is in the description. Also, while you're on Twitter put out hashtag released the Snyder cut it's time for your wrong this where people right in tell us what we screwed up as we screwed it up on kind of funny dot com slash your wrong wrong. Biologist says we missed a new date. There's a life is strange book dust coming up. May twenty third two days before my birthday. It's a collector's edition is available to preorder from forbidden planet big says regarding the anthem crashes. This isn't the normal blue screen crash that plenty of us have had with other games game locks backs back to the menu etcetera. This is hard crashing the PS four and can absolutely ruin your hard drive. Many of us myself included have to actually unplug our system before leaving turn back on this happened three times the other day and has never happened with other game. Good good. Yeah. I was thinking blue. I was thinking blue screen. You know, I'm sitting air crash has happened to me before. But it's never been three times the same game. On Melvin one Hawn writes in internet is needed all the time for secondary PS four I live in more rural areas in that as an issue. Sometimes technically, I believe at Ping's, and you have fifteen minutes or something we'll give you a countdown before you're about to lose it. If you're off offline playing something you don't need you'd have to turn on logged turn it on be logged in connect to the internet. Start your game. Then you could disconnect from the internet and the secondary. But then eventually it is going gonna say you have a countdown clock ends. Yeah. And just as a reminder, this is like a. Work around. This isn't like an official way to out in case to be clear to the person we're giving advice to. Yes. The both those PlayStation should be online as for sure the secondary PlayStation for should beyond, but I was very much talking about planning together. So you'd be online no matter what and Mikey. I wanna address his hair because I was thinking about it afterwards. I was like I think what I was thinking is that we both had disc copies. And so you do need to have if you're playing disc based. And then saw NATO biologist says, Greg I don't know if you saw the news Zack centers showing off his cut Batman v. Superman this year. Tickets are limited. Yeah. He's doing a whole bunch of his director cuts not his j- Justice league. Of course, Batman v c ran the Zach center cut. 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365: Andrea Rene: Xbox Series X, PS5, Spider-Man Miles Morales, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, COD: BlackOps Cold War, Demon Souls, SackBoy, Astro's Playroom, Godfall, Bugsnax

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Be safe we're heading into holidays but please please be safe. We're too many things to be worried about. But my goodness you're right. We are in a new generation officially of consoles. I'm so excited about it. You know the dlc always stands for your downloadable canada and you're downloadable christian but this week dlc stands for debut ing the latest consoles because we're going to be wall to wall talking about the xbox series s an ex and the playstation five. And we have. I would argue the very best possible guests. We could have for this episode of the first person. I thought of thankfully she was ready. Willing enable our friend. you know her from. What's good. Games ms andrea rene is back with andrew. Hello gentlemen o. m. g. was that an intro for the ages. I love the energy that you're bringing mr kata encapsulates. Just how excited the gaming community is this week in the wake of these two slash. Three amazing consoles. Yeah right it's it's it's something to genuinely excited about. We've got lots of things to keep us indoors and look there's cool things to be indoors with. I know i'm sure there's lots of you listening. That are like hey. I'd love to be that excited. If only i could get my hands on one of these consoles because Scarcity is still an issue and people are still having a hard time in a logging onto websites to say they have them. And then they're all gobbled up by scalpers and things. And that's a bummer. But it sounds like from all indications there has been a huge number of these things that have hit the hit the retail channel and a lot of people them in their hands. And we're gonna talk in depth all of these all the consoles We have both consoles. Andrea actually has all three. I think right isn't that right. That is correct. Yeah so we're going to set aside the normal format of the show. You know we start with story of the week usually but there's only one story this week and it's the fact that the console's have both dropped two days apart and so we're going to start talking about the console's as consoles and then we'll get into the specific games. I mean if there was ever a week for this this week. I mean it. There are too many games. But we're going to do our best to talk through as many of them as we possibly can so many huge titles releasing a. We'd been playing as many of them as i could fit into my thumbs in eyeballs And and we're going to have a great time stepping through these consoles. So let's get things started by saying I the first console to launch. On tuesday of this last week was the xbox series x and s so i should just. We'll just start in chronological order and i. I have lots of thoughts about the xbox series x. But i'm actually very curious andrea about the xbox series s because i saw on your instagram and twitter that you have one of those the smaller less expensive consoles. And you're really. I think from what i read. Taken by the form factor. If nothing else right. I love that little thing. So xbox was kind enough to send what could games and xbox series x so i purchased for myself an xbox series s because i knew that i was going to need one in our. What's could game studio. But i also wanted one in the living room where i'm going to play it most of the time and so like well. I don't really need four k because streaming and four k still just isn't really a thing that's available on twitch rip mixer they really were doing high resolution streaming the best out of anybody. I know that caffeine actually doesn't pretty good um high resolution streaming as well. But i was like what the xbox series s is going to work for me in the studio because i don't need really more than fourteen forty p and i love the form factor. It's so small. And i love that compared to the vsbn. Which is just a monster ons. Which i know we'll get to in just a little bit but the value proposition. That microsoft is bringing with xbox game pass. Xbox game pass ultimate in for those who are interested xbox game cloud x. cloud wherever they're going to finalize that name to be. I think that it's a really great opportunity for people to get in and obviously we saw the news that we're gonna talk about just the second year that microsoft announced its their biggest console launch ever and that is to do because of the xbox series s. I agree having that low price. Point was really smart. i mean obviously. We've seen nintendo reap the benefits of having a low price point for new hardware for generations. Now and it. It actually like the sony and microsoft finally got around to realizing. Oh yeah if we don't charge through the nose for these things people buy more of them But tell me a little bit about your experience using the the s are you noticing Does it feel like a generational upgrade from your xbox one. It's interesting that you bring that up because that was one of my critiques of the new consoles that they didn't feel like a gigantic leap forward from the xbox one x specifically now i know that most consumers are probably changing generations between their original xbox one or potentially they have the xbox one s. But there's probably not as many people. Doing what i did going from the one x to these series x and the series as the low times of course are definitely faster. But i think microsoft. I don't know how. I really feel about the fact that they did not change the i like. They launched this he on the old generation and they kept at the same. I know that there's a big portion of the games out there that are like thank goodness. I don't wanna have to relearn something. But i just i think it kind of takes a little bit of that shiny sparkly new console feel away from it and overall. I just didn't think that outside of the loading times that there was anything dramatically new. And i think a lot has to do with the fact that there wasn't a first party exclusive game like now they have launched with halo infinite in halo. Infinite was running at sixty frames per second fourteen forty p on the xbox series s different story. Yeah i i agree with you. One of those people that you know apple always releases their their update to the to You know a few days before the new phones. And when i get a new phone i never upgrade the os on my old phone. Because i just want the new phone to feel as new as possible not like i don't want all those new features of the os on my old phone. My new phone. If you're like. I can do this new stuff now. Even if i didn't actually need a new phone for the new stuff. And i definitely relate to that with the xbox and it's honestly my my sort of meta comment on the whole process of this last week is that i think it's kind of a bummer. That these two huge things happen within two days of each other just as a fan of the industry in a fan video games. Because i can't help but compare them to each other like it. It's just setting up that comparison of these two big new hardware cycles starting. And i feel like if we had you know six months or a year or even a couple of months between the release of these consoles. It wouldn't feel quite so a comparison it would you. I really be able to sort of sit in the joy of one specific new console for a little bit longer but ultimately. Yeah i think the experience of being on playstation five especially with the controller which we'll talk about in the new os how it feels more new and more different than the xbox series experience has been. I think part of that and you know were maybe jumping. Hopefully i'm not jumping ahead. But i think part of that is a testament to the excellent work that microsoft has done and their philosophy of. We don't care where you play here. Is this incredible. We've honed it. I mean the xbox one has had some bad you. I it's it's a good. Ui you know like it's in a good place in the fact that it's the same across consoles you're playing on xbox that's what they want here you are. You're playing and how. I've tried to wrap my head around her contextualized. This series s and x is it's like getting new ram new. Cpu gp for your computer. And that's very exciting. And i don't expect steam to look different like wow. That's that's fair. And i think what one of the things that microsoft really pushed when the xbox one x launched was if they likened the new life cycle for xbox products to the way that other consumer electronics are it was something that had the ability to interview people on the hardware team about and they said you know. Look at the way. That consumers are looking at other types of tricks. Televisions cell phones. They're used to getting incremental upgrades. And that's the type of consumer that we really want to start catering to are these people that are willing to pay to get more power. But they don't need to wait like four or five years between each life cycle of the device that they have now those consumers that do wanna wait are obviously always going to be there. But they're not going to be as left behind as they were in previous generations. And i like that. I mean it's similar like just point about his phone. i'm. I'm not the person that gets the new phone every year. And i like that. I get an update to my os at some point I've i've definitely been there. It's like oh my device no longer supports the new os time to get a new device. But i liked that other things get brought along in. Sometimes things become long in the tooth and you go okay will. This experience is going to be as good on this device versus that. I should look into upgrading. But i think it's really interesting and fascinating to see how people respond. I do. A hundred percent agree with you though andrea that even if it was still on xbox one but had halo launched i think the xbox launch would have just felt different kind of like for me. Miles morales i know it's on. Ps four but not in my head. It's not it's a. Ps five launch game impeach. Our excuse me on both consoles. It's different gaming andrew. I don't care you say does pose. Here's what i'll say christine steamer my co host at. What's good games. who's also been on. Your show started playing miles morales on. Ps four because we only got one. Ps five between the three of us prelaunch to do coverage as soon as she started playing. She was about five hours of so in when she said i'm done playing on. Ps four because she came to my house in played a few minutes on the ps five. And she's like. I'm done playing forum waiting until my. Ps five gets there. That's how different experience was for her with miles. Morales i think have been that i think hey like hundred and twenty frames per second multi again. Get the game out. Make it right. But i think to me. That's what xbox is missing that punch in your face. This is what we're all about. Why i have a funny story. I was gonna wait until later to say this but it seems like the right time to tell my funny. Miles morales story and is christian. Knows this because i was on the phone with him trying to figure it out and again. This is first word. Problems like a reviewer who gets code for games. I'm not complaining. But i will step you through this funny situation that happened. Which is that. I also got a code for the playstation. Four version of miles morales from sony and was playing it as people know. I talked about it last week. was playing it before i had a playstation five on my playstation four. And i think the game looks fantastic on playstation for. I really. don't think anybody that's not able to get a playstation five console. Has any reason not to play. Miles morales it's still going to be a phenomenal experience. The frame rate is solid. The game looks great. It plays great. It's it's great on playstation four. But then you know. I was very excited to see the the upgrades on the playstation five version. And i installed my playstation five. And there's this whole process when you turn it on to you know take stuff from your playstation four and transferred overseas games and stuff. It's a long it takes a long time if you're on the same network and you have both consoles turned on at the same time. Intellect transfer stuff over. And i was able to just transfer over my copy of miles morales and after those several hours of waiting for that whole thing to complete. I jumped into miles morales on playstation five and went this look at. He did friends. And i don't understand why i was like this. I mean low. Times are a little faster. I guess but like i don't really get why people are excited about this. Looks like the same game. And i i played it for several hours and was just looking looking for reflections and things and i was like. Maybe there's a mode that i have to turn on the ray tracing and looked in the options and couldn't find anything and i finally Texted christian like hey man. I don't see any difference between the playstation four version playstation five in christians like why didn't play the playstation for but it looks amazing. The retracing is incredible. Are you sure because it doesn't look like it's the ps four version right now. That's the sorry there are two versions and you're you're you literally have to have the the main takeaway from this is how much i appreciate. What microsoft is doing with the smart smart delivery. Oh my gosh because this was anything but smart this was delivery. That was so dom- it didn't tell me to upgrade that. I had to do an extra step to upgrade. It didn't like sense that it was on the playstation five and go. Hey by the way. There's a version of this that you're not playing that you could be playing especially because they're giving the upgrade free to people that have the playstation four version. But i mean we were in the menu christians like did you try performance mode or fidelity fidelity and i was like that. I don't even have that option in my menu. I don't understand why but yeah the playstation four version doesn't have that option so it was a comedy of errors for our. It was a story that came out over the weekend. That lots of people jeffer- doing the exact same thing. And i think that's what's i mean. I don't wanna get to our down the ps five rabbit hole. I can save my comments about what happened with tsn then but it alone. Yeah and ultimately. I think it reflects really well on the strategy. That christian was talking about with microsoft. Where they're kind of working on a different path you know. It's it's not so much about you to get new harder to get the new games and yep you know. Somebody's doing some of that too because there are those two versions. But like this Gamer forward kind of stance. Microsoft is taking where everything works in. It's all smart it all hands it automatically for you. If you have the better box it will do the better thing. It's i really appreciated that. On a level that i hadn't before because of that experience and i also had the experience of turning on my new shiny xbox series x and to my game library and it was like. Here's your game library. And there's like hundreds of games from three or four generations of xbox. Oh these are just all immediately accessible to me. Because i once owned them on a previous xbox. It's like how it should always have been. And in fact the first game. I played on my xbox series x was geometry wars because it was. It was a fast download and i wanted to see how like. Hdr upgrade the the algorithm. They use to add. Hdr games looks on old games and it looked pretty cool so it is. It is kind of apples and oranges to compare these boxes because yeah there wasn't that big first party exclusive on my xbox but i also had like you know hundreds of i had my game pass games already to be downloaded but i also had like all these old games that i played on my three sixty in my xbox one there are just sitting there as games ready for me to play now. It's pretty cool. So yeah so so christian what. What was your experience with xbox series x. Because i know you said for a long time you weren't going to get one and then you got one right. No my experience with xbox series x is reading about everybody's experience with xbox series x. My experience was i really appreciate microsoft's philosophy and i am a game pass ultimate subscriber and i didn't get one when after all no i did not get one. I decided to hang out and know that. I'm not going to miss out on any of their exclusives. I can play destiny beyond light on my android when. I'm not my pc to via X. cloud and grind. And do things there that i might not undo. Main story missions later and because of that ecosystem and cross progression which is not necessarily microsoft's thing but no i am sitting out. I do not have a compelling reason to get that piece of hardware. And i love. That microsoft is okay with that. I think like i'm into their monthly sub. I'm downloading the new games. I'm enjoying game. Pass as much as i ever have. I wish that the ea stuff came to p. c. at the same time that it did to console. There's like a little bit of delay in lagging games. You get a pc. But i know that any of their party games. I'm gonna get day and date. And that's also like i love it so andrew you and i will talk about the series x then S because I there are a number of things that i really really love about it. They did not oversell the time it takes between turning on the console and playing a game. I mean it is single digit seconds. It's like two or three seconds to between literally picking up the console urban. Excuse me picking up the controller and pushing the little x. button to literally starting to move in a game that i had a quick resume feature on you know and that that's pretty impressive No longer are we waiting for anything to boot up. It just instantly on and that's that was the first thing that really made me go. Yeah we're in a new generation. Yeah i think that the on boarding process. The experts setup export xbox. Excuse me set up was really simple to do. I did it through the xbox app on my phone. The app installed took like a minute. Maybe two minutes to jump right into the dashboard and like you said. Get your library and start playing things. I don't blame christian for making the decision that he did. I think a lot of consumers feel the same way people have come to us like. I'm sure they've also come to you to to ask. Which console. Should i get this holiday. If i can only afford one. Or if i'm only gonna ask for one as a gift from somebody. What's the one and i just couldn't have a compelling reason to recommend people to get you know the series x s over the ps five if they were only going to buy one console the season. I mean honestly. If you don't have a switch may be one you want to actually looking at. That's a conversation for another time. But think i think the only my only caveat to that because i kind of agree mike caveats would be if you have a gaming. Pc the xbox is kind of redundant. But if you don't have a gaming pc and you are into the idea of game pass. Then i think. I don't know i as much as i love. The sony exclusives the idea of ten bucks a month. Getting you what it gets you on xbox your price conscious and you wanna get this. The series s and game pass. I have a hard time telling people. That's not the way to go. Because i mean if you really price conscious i only need one thing and i want to get the most bang for my buck. That's a pretty big bang for your buck. That's a very good point as well. I think that people who don't own a pc are looking for simplicity in their gaming experience. It's the reason. I'm primarily a console gamer. Even though i've played more on my steam account in two thousand twenty nine ever have probably collectively my entire life. I've you've been playing a lot more on my than i ever have before but the there's just something about hitting the power button on the controller having it turn on having power the television on and having to do nothing. I don't have to install anything. I don't have to worry about my audio rowdy and it'll have to do anything and i think that that experience clearly resonating with consumers as well particularly at the price point of the xbox series s. I think you're right. There's a ton of great games to plan game pass and i think the ultimate subscription is definitely an amazing value even the base subscription is a great value. I think all of the added things that microsoft is doing to entice people. I'm sure you guys didn't miss that. They are now giving away thirty days of free disney plus if you get a game scripture in which is which is really timely of course at the mandalorian just hitting streaming for disney plus. I think there's a lot of other things that are good added value bonuses without as well so not particularly interested in sony's exclusives than than. Yeah then xboxes definitely the way to go but if if you're really wanting to play new games that feel shiny and new and next gen then i mean it's all about ps five. Yeah and maybe we should transition to that. But but i also struck by going game passing all those new eight. Ea games in there. I was like oh my. Ea literally dumped like everything you can play madden twenty eleven if you want you know. It's it's pretty wild. I just went. Here's all of our stuff on game pass. So that's kind of cool too. But yeah i mean i like the x. A for me. The the the box is whisper. Quiet i. I think it turns on fast. Low times are much improved. They're not nothing they're not zero. We haven't gotten to the point. Where games have no load times. you know even oriented blind Oriented the will of the wisps still has a low time. it's much reduced. But i think we will get to the point where these games have zero load times when they are designed for these boxes but it wasn't a magic wand that made all your games have zero load times which i think i you know people could have been thinking. I was wondering if that was going to be some thing that i would see. Where magically these games zero slowdowns. That's not the case. But it's cool seeing much reduced load times it's wonderful. Seeing how pervasive the backwards compatibility is and how you can play just all these old games that i was scrolling through my game library. I don't even remember playing that all. Yeah oh i remember that game. Wow yeah it's it's kinda cool just having that experience but ultimately it doesn't feel quite as fresh and quite as new as the playstation five. Because you know that controller it works. it's a great controller. But i said it down in my office where i have. Everything hooked up and i had my xbox one controller in the same area and i inadvertently picked up the wrong controller. Because they're exactly the same you know. There's no no discernible difference. But for the new controller. Which is i guess. Good but also i wish that was at least some kind of color or go on it then. We need an easy to know which freaking xbox controller. I picked up in my room. Elite controller for your now xbox one i do not because that's the difference right is the d pad is the deep had. That's the really the only difference that you're i will see. It's i'm with you. I think that it would have been nice if they had done a little bit of innovation with the controller. I know it's a great controller. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I hear you. I hear you but you still have to justify the price point that you're charging people. Yeah i think this is not an original thought. I'm sure i'm not the only one that has had it. I think i'll save the back half of this. What i think about the dual sense. But i think that microsoft is going to release updated controller like the elite. You mean no. I think it's going to just a standard controller. I think third party games are going to start taking advantage of the. Ps fives triggers. And i think. I think xbox is going to release a control. That does that too. That's a guests. Well don't use up your predictions to early man. Sorry sorry on of the month. Harbor punk gets delayed again All right well. Let's let's transition to the playstation five. A little because two days later that playstation five came we all have playstation five and I mean this one does feel really new and different. I mean andrea already talked about the size of the thing. Everybody's been making a big deal about it. Can we call quick. Yeah i i saw pictures. watched on boxing's for me until i had it in my house i did not comprehend the size of it. It is so very big. Like i had it vertical and we're all in southern california and i was like no. I need earthquake. Straps for this like this is to is crush child like it's so big i don't know man. I didn't think it felt that much. Bigger than the playstation three places was huge to a friend of show. John davidson's texting him. He's like i have my. Og three the five huge. And i was like thank you okay. The thing about the design is that. I really enjoyed that. They did something different and unique when they first unveiled it but once i got the unit into my house i was like. This is a little ridiculous. Actually that really frustrates. Me is the way that the design that base holder it screws in if it's vertical but it barely clips on if you're putting it on. Its side which the vast majority of people are going to do it like barely clips on. And if you nudge that thing at all if you're moving hdmi cables or if even if you're plugging usb cable in and out of the front jack like it'll pull it off the base. I'm like come on. So this gotta fix. This rarely meant to be vertical. Right they it was an afterthought people put on if they want to. Yeah i read it again. Click on and i was like okay. But i mean i i did have that moment of kind of recognition that man how many years of my life has been the dual shock and all of a sudden this controller is really different and i kind of love that it was that moment of like. Wow this is a new generation. I'm really holding a playstation controller. That's a is completely different and You know i'm sure everybody. Listening has heard people rave about the motion sense and the the way that the feedback has been brought to another level and really much more sophisticated. But i'll tell you. I was genuinely skeptical. That i would be wowed by that because to be honest. I've never been a huge fan of rumble in the controllers. It's fine but it never felt super additive to me like oh an explosion happened in the game and my controllers rumbling. Okay but the thing that it never really was before is subtle and that is what. The motion sense allows in dual sense controller. It is subtle it actually has subtlety to it. It's not just a big rumbling. Thing in your hand it's tiny movements. It's little difference in location where it is and how it almost becomes a just a sense that you're not really paying attention to its not being hit with a mallet on your fingers every time it's really just sort of subtle inputs that give you a different sensation of what's going on and then the triggers the fact that they can set different tension levels. And you know you have to push past a appoint and it's really difficult and then easy. Oh that stuff. I really underestimated how much it would feel interesting and cool and be additive to a game. I one hundred percent agree with you. It was the thing i raised about the most. I'm with you. In the sense that i traditionally don't like rumble in my controllers. I find distracting. I typically turn off in all of my devices. But what. Sony developed with haptic feedback in the adaptive. Triggers is just really really innovative. And that to me is what makes the ps five. Feel so new is that they took those little things. In addition to some other features as well but i think the controller and what they implanted with game play and then demonstrate is so beautifully with astro playroom which is a pack in game that every. Ps five gets to play with just brilliant. Yeah great yeah. Go ahead christian. I tweeted this out. And i will still stand by now a day or two later. I miss my my pavel's of my league and of the dualshock four. I really started to grow accustomed to in like paddles on my controller But the dual sense is by far my favorite controller. I've ever owned. It's just a joy in my hand it fits well The little bit of extra width. I guess they gave to it like a typically prefer asymmetric sticks. But i find that the little bit extra width. I'd i'd enjoy the symmetrical sticks on it the triggers i find myself just sitting there being like okay. Turn off okay. I'm gonna go out of the game. That's a regular click. Click through the game back on their behalf. That resistance feel that resistance in the haptic feedback. It is the switches. Hd rumble realized in a way much greater than the switch has done it. You know like ooh ice cubes or whatever they showed with it. The differences and andrew had mentioned an astro and just even games. That don't use it as much as kind of showing off all the technology just the subtle changes in footsteps or different surfaces being reflected back into your controller it turns rumble into something. That is immersive in a way. That is a game changer. I think for you know maybe competitive games. You still might turn it off You know to not have those things kind of getting in your way of trying to get the most kills or whatnot but subtly immersive and all the best ways. It's a joy in my hand when they release a non white version are one hundred percent by one because i know it white controllers look like for me a year but i. I love the dual sense controller. It is the best video game controller. I've ever used when especially with the ps five that takes that uses all of its unique features. Yeah there's a part in astros playroom where you you can collect things and then you go to a central hub and you're able to play this sort of ball grabber game Like you at a pizza parlor or something with a grabber hand goes down and grabs these little spheres and then once you find one in pluck one out you have to squeeze it using your little robot hand You squeeze it pops and then whatever the cool goody that you plucked out of their a comes out and the way you squeeze it and pop it. Is you pull the trigger. But you pull the trigger on the controller and it it resisting resisting resistant. That pops and you get past this point and then it goes fast. I it's hard to describe but like that little thing. I was like that is incredible because it feels like i squeezed something until it popped. I mean literally felt like. I did the thing that i did and i was blown away. That little feature so cool. Yeah so playstation five as a console. We talked about the the form factor. We talked about the controller. Let's talk about that you. I a bit because it is new and different andrea. What is your feeling on the way the. Ui feels the way you know. The the boot experienced the on boarding experience. How how did all that rate for you. I didn't do the traditional on boarding experience. Because i told myself i wasn't going to do a full transfer of my. Ps four over to my ps five. So i didn't transfer anything. I put two game saves. I made sure that they were updated in the cloud. And that was it. And then. I just downloaded the games that i wanted on my. Ps five. Because i am hyper aware that i have two min max my hard drive space very efficiently because boy. Oh boy did not realize that. Sony was going to pull a craziest snafu and not allow people to store. Ps five games on an external device. Which is something that. I hope that they're going to fix. Relatively quickly the idea that. I only have around six hundred and fifty gigabytes to work with. And then i have to start. Deleting stuff is unacceptable to me so i didn't transfer stuff so it was actually a real easy quick process for me. 'cause i just booted it up i logged in with my you know. Id and then. I was ready to start downloading gains when the from my library. I like the you i look. I think the look and feel is really great. I think they made a couple of things slightly more inconvenient from a workflow in an intuitive workflow standpoint but that also could just be that. I need to just through muscle memory practice during where those things in the menu are it kind of reminded me a little bit of moving from android to iowa and just really struggling for the first couple of weeks. Feel like i don't know where in the settings this thing is that i need where those things are hard time turning it off like i forget where does where does the go interesting. Now hold on the button. It's just tap this time. Yes and so. It's a and then i go okay. Well i tried long holding the button and that didn't work. Where is it is over here in the upper right where those things are. No it's on that bottom but you gotta push the button. It's like you're right. And all that stuff will become a become acclimated to at a certain point but yeah it is not super intuitive on certain things and it does take some getting used to but i guess that's a little nitpicky. Yeah overall though. I really liked the you. I think it looks clean and slick and i think i'm going to really love it. There's a couple of things that i haven't quite decided if i like it or not like the activity cards i think aren't really fully being utilized yet because it's still so early in. I am looking forward to seeing if those will actually be helpful things that i wanted us. Or if it's just gonna be like a super gimmicky kind of like how the touch pad as an actual button that is functional was felt a little gimmicky at first until we saw a couple developers do some interesting stuff with still overall most developers. Just use it as a button to you right. I think that the playstation has built in a lot of really cool tools for developers to use an. It's just about time will tell if developers actually use those tools. Yeah i agree. I feel like those. Those cards are useless to me right now. I mean there's one remember seeing something in mouse morales was like you're on this mission. How much more of the mission do you have to go about four hours. I'm like how do you know that. That seems weird for you to tell me but i kind of don't know how to make those things useful in in a certain sense and maybe it is something that developers will get more in tune with and find ways to surface information that super useful to me but ultimately i've been basically ignoring that you push pause it pulls up these little cards that give you some information about the game. You're playing but ultimately i. I stopped reading them pretty quickly because it just seemed superfluous not particularly helpful christian. What's your take on on boarding. And you i so i appreciate it. Very similarly tie andrea. Did i came into this. This is the next gen. I have my saves in the cloud Which is still kind of bothers me that that's a premium experience that's part of playstation plus But i'm locked into that ecosystem. It's like i forget that it's locked behind a paywall. 'cause i've been paying that day off for so long into people pointed out and i'm like yeah i would be better if it wasn't i i agree with that But so. I have the safes. That i want there But i'm sure at some point. I wanna revisit old games but i got to a point where i ran through my backlog. I finished the games. I wanted to finish on. Ps four as very excited about ps five as a new console and kind of a new generation for me. So i actually haven't downloaded any of those Pulled any of those saves from the cloud yet. And i got bugs snacks. Which is ps plus. I got spiderman. I bought spiderman. And i downloaded astro bought and i was ready to go and i liked the playstation plus collection of games. I downloaded days gone. You're never really played on playstation four. I downloaded god of words to have it. But i haven't pulled my safe down Have it on desk all. Have this digitally while. I'm here but it was. It was seamless right. But i wasn't trying to resume go back to a game that has in the middle of carrying something over. I was very deliberately playing new games and new experiences on it and it was. It was great The thing that i really enjoy about the council. And i think this is the same for this series x. It's quiet yeah. it's very quarter I have to concede some haft my entertainment center in order to have a console. That doesn't sound like a jet engine. I'm on board. I will give extra ten inches or whatever this thing is to have it. Run as quietly as it does. And it's snappy going in and out of things. I know it doesn't have quick resume the way the xbox does for my experience going from game to game going into the i and going back into a game. It's it's fast. It's efficient in. It feels new. Which i agree that i've had those moments of like. How do i say what do i do. But i kinda like that. It's like ooh. Where's where's cruise control on this car like that way. I kinda like spending that time with it. So i've been very impressed and i thought i i use the qr code from the app on my phone to to a log in and it was really nice. I don't know i don't have. I don't have a lot of complaints. And it was pretty smooth. I think andrea had on the biggest complaint as a for the system in total and that is the internal storage is just not enough and I have duty on there. And that's all i need. It's eight hundred six. Gosh well two things. I learned this generation. Is anita bigger hard drive. And i'm gonna need faster internet. It's like downloading three or four games at one at a console launch excruciating. Although it's nice out that these councils can do a lot of that stuff in the background whereas in previous generations it would have to pause and download to start a game and some of that stuff can be handled in the back. I mean if it works. I think the real frustrating part for me is that i was really hoping against hope that when. Ps five launched. And i went to go download destiny to i would not get that copying file menu. That is the bane of my freaking existed. Still there there why to download and then spend more time copying the file over. What have you not fixed. Playstation on file structure is to make that thing. go away. just make it go away well as long as we don't turn the. Ps five on in every time over the next five years downs. Update you know before. I can do anything. I'll be happy about that. Because i feel like ninety percent of the time when i turn on my playstation for still living an update. I'm like what was the point of putting you in rest mode. Was you do that on your own. Refer this up in the chat. I wanna hit on one thing. I absolutely love in different people find different parts of it. They love our system level accessibility stuff. They should five. So i am. I believe we're in the minority now. But i am an inverted y axis person in every game. When i started game. I have to go into options and change it and sometimes you can't change it during the first like intro before the title seen quite there's no option got a struggled through this a five. I went in default every game now inverted access. You can default system level choose Performance mode even difficulty. You can have it at the system level instead of each game. It's pretty awesome. It's color blindness. I believe is one. And i love it and i think it was xbox three sixty have that for the why access to but then it was gone on on one and i believe it's not there on the series x s as well and i love that stuff when it can be system level. I know i want this all the time or you can have it. Set to like game default like fidelity motor performance whatever the developers think is kind of that ideal experience. You can let it do that But it's it's an actual game changer. For it makes the experience that much going in. And i love that. I would love to see that. Be an update to xboxes as well anything that lets more people game also I think indra you tweet about this as well but we're talking about it. Shot up to twitch in their million dollar donation to it will gamers is great. Yeah som- really really cool and i. I want to see more people playing our hobby. And so i've anything that can be done at a system level to make that possible is Hats off by me. Yeah all right. Well let's dive into the thing that is really the most exciting part which is the games themselves but first let me thank our sponsor which is third love on my goodness. He's been a minute since we talked about third love but we love third law. 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I love what they did bringing miles a story into the video game universe and i know that people want more from his story. I also really love that. They wove peter parker in where it made sense to bring him in. But this was not peter story. It's very much miles a story. And i also just love that. It's all i. Christmasy could almost christmas. So i've been honestly kind of holding off on plane it so that i have a reason to just swing around new york and enjoy the christmas vibes in december. Yeah it's so great. I love when christmas. Things come out actually at christmas because i remember like the first division came out. I think didn't come out in the in the middle of the summer or something. I don't know. I remember it feeling very distant when it was all these christmas ornaments everywhere and i was playing in the middle of summer. But yeah it's great when you're like. I am excited for christmas. And this game is set in christmas time with the snow in new york city in central park. It's like yeah so good christian. I know you've been loving this game right. I absolutely love love. Love love spiderman. Miles morales i am blown away by. Yes it's you know more of the same of what spiderman. Ps four was. But i loved that game. But what i think this game does so well is build on that formula but may get kinder's habits miles a story and the animation changes in the way that he moves in navigates through the city just from web swinging to the subtle animations Like idle animations or any. Lana perch she's not as confident as peter in the pierre's four-game and those little things may get so fresh for me also his story. I really love where it's you know. Miles i'm not going to get into spoilers here but you know it's mild story in him experiencing new york city and swinging around and the little quips and things. He sang to himself as he swinging around. And it's like oh. His mom calls a friend calls. There's a crime happening over here. And he's like okay as spiderman fan for as long as the and it's like oh miles no you can't no you can't you can't this is going to be bad. You can't do all those. Peter knows peter knows. You can't do all that it will wreck your life my friend it will wreck your life. But he's not at that point in his journey yet so there's optimism and even the little things going to get cranberry sauce or whatever it is in. It's so fun to see that experience on that side of the character And then the game itself is stunning playstation five. I'm playing in fidelity mode. Which has the ray tracing in new better for you know. The bells and whistles I turn on performance for a little while to see if sixty frames per second web swinging would win me over and It it didn't to ray. Tracing is worth the thirty frames a single player narrative game. I will probably choose. Those graphical whistles and bells over higher frames competitive game will probably try to try the frame rate but it's just incredible Sometimes it has changed suits to see what part of his suit is reflective that picks things up and just like the shiny bids on his suit reflecting back the city. As you're running up avengers tower and you see miles reflection in the glass or swing. Low down into the city like there will be a point where i start to take ray tracing in this technology for granted and i always want to remind myself of it at anecdote i said when i was streaming. The game today was like when i moved to southern california. I made a point to tell myself that. Like yes your sweaty when you're running but it's also four. Pm on in august in. You're going for a run as a kid from houston. You can never take this for granted that you can do this. And i want to be the same with like ray. Tracing graphics are gonna go. It's just the level of merging. That i think it brings into the city when you're walking by dag and you see the pedestrians in the city behind you reflected in the glass. It really just brings you in while. Miles morales doesn't utilize the dual senses new capabilities to their fullest. Just the little bits that it does use it for the haptic rumble and some of the the trigger for web swinging and stuff like that. It feels so good like to know that this is a cross gen game. I can't wait. For what insomniac is doing ratchet and clank or whatever else that is strictly built on this hardware But the game itself. It's i. I love the combat. I love miles as new powers and i love how they add to it. I think. Visually stunning venom blasts and everything. Just jaw dropping lee gorgeous. They've nailed the animations again for health. Spider-man moves in general and the cinematic touches coming off of finishing moves and combos building large streaks together it is such a joy to play in the characters feel very well realized and fleshed out. There is a part Whereas the first part one of my stream which i think is still a dark hived on my twins like as andrea mentioned about that being new york in christmas like i got emotional Because like they had friends over for christmas. Like i love this market in christmas like they're talking to people on him dislike. We can't have that this year. I don't think. I wanna pandemic game necessarily but it was. It was tragic in touching in a way that i didn't expect to be caught off guard by by the interactions felt real and and realized between these characters and friends. Just coming over and hugging. And it's like. Oh yeah yeah. We don't have to the characters. It's yeah and it's something that i praised in the first spiderman game. I think we we all did this. Focus on not just the character in the costume but the character out of the costume right. Miles morales is as important as spider. Man peter parker in the first game was as important to spiderman in both sides of that character were explored. And i think that that's a testament to the folks at insomniac understanding what makes spider-man's special right. It's awesome to swing around. The city is super awesome to beat a bad guys and save the day but it's also super important that we understand all of the challenges and life stuff that these young people are going through as. Well that's what that's why. I love spiderman as a kid is because it. It was like me and you know he was. He was a justice worried about homework and going out on a date and making sure his his parental figures were proud of him as he was about saving the day. And i think that that's a retained in these. Both of these games and i think seeing that personal side of miles morales stories really really special and like you said the game is a joy like there's so many games that are dark and brooding and all that stuff and that that's fine. I can have fun with those games but boy even in a game. Where bad guys are running rampant through the city of new york. It's it just feels light in positive and fun. And i really appreciate that about it and i will say with this now. The second iteration of this You know that baton that the bars been raised per se but as that metaphorical baton gets passed back to rock steady or wb montreal for the next batman game in suicide squad. Insomniac has nailed this comic book. Combat arkham spiderman style combat. Like it feels so good and the finishers and using your web gadgets are such a wonderful part of the flow. The experience that rock steady in. Wb they need to bring their a game like this is not a a genre now where you can just rest on your laurels and beco- we did arkham combat again. It's like we'll find but in psalm next the top of their game over here so i'm really excited to see what those games can deliver because it feels so good to play a spiderman again. And they've nailed how fast he moves. I remember that was a history of the. Ps four game. And i think a testament to the level designers here in miles morales again as well. We're like you're inside. You know there are levels where you're inside and big combat moments and you don't feel hamstrung by not being able to zip around or web. They build the space out in a way that is both believable and allows you to you know. Do the things spider do It's it's a phenomenal game. And i apologize now for having five games. Be all from sony. The you don't have to apologize for playing excellent games there. So i love it so much also can we can we say. I hope the game three is spider. Gwen i want i want. That's the next one we can do. Peter parker we can do miles in the spider gwynne. Assist speaking of. I don't know if was just a preorder bonus. We can get to another way. But i preordered the game and as a period or bonus. There is a spider pursue. And oh my gosh. I actually make the game harder harder for myself at times because two of the suit abilities that you can pair what you compare that with any consenting like mix and match but that come with that suit our pow bang booms that show a header like and bright and just beautiful when you suck people that are like looks like spider verse in the other. One is at animates spiderman on the twos which is how he moves in the movie and it's unbelievably awesome to how you see the the kid that that. Yes remade the intro. To the to the spiders in the game which has been allowed it. I do love it. But i also find it a little bit ironic that you can set the game into the sixty frames per second mode and that it literally like this feature is dropping frames spiderman. The rest of the world still moves as it moves. But it's pretty fun. But again i think it's a testament to an insomniac and everybody that worked on this game understanding the character doing that nod back to spider verse away and the suits speak to the richness of the character and understanding it and treating it with care and its. I'll shut up 'cause otherwise we're gonna to run on time. It's real good but andrew. I want to hear you. Tell me about a game that i do not have and have not played and that is god fall which i think is a a real exclusive real New ip and. i think a big question mark for me what do you. What's your take on god fall. I've been really having a great time. In god fall so far and i know that the reviews are pretty split on it. I am of the mind that this game is clearly taking advantage of the power of next but they need a little bit more guts of the game which i think is a very fair criticism. I don't understand why people are are are knocking on it for anything other than content because it smooth. It's fast combat feels crisp. I think what's really great about god fall which is a looter shooter hybrid mashup game so it's not a shooter brawler but it's taking this kind of sensibility of a borderlands where there's a bunch of gear to go chase and mashing it up with the kind of hackensack that you get from a game like assassins creed or a game like demon's souls but i don't want a directly compare it because i really do think what they're doing is unique and i think that whenever you compare against the iconic franchises when it comes to gameplay mechanics people get very nitpicky and then they kind of push up their glasses like well. Actually you know this is the way demon souls is and i was just like yeah i just. I'm trying to grasp something that you guys can do. A comparison with what i love about god fall is that it really allows someone like me. Who's been turned off by the complexity. And the intricacy of the souls games to really get my feet wet in the perry and dodge evade style of some of the more complicated hack and slash games where you can't just run into combat scenarios and beat your way out of it by just like throwing your weapons around you really have to go into each combat instance with a game plan and with your load out ready and with your your potions. You're healing spells all the things that you need ready. And each combat scenario which. I think god's feels great And the the classics are just out of this world i. I've seen some people complain that they went overboard with particle facts. And i'm like i don't care i love it amazing on. Ps five and. I think that this game has a lot of potential. Now i have also seen some people comparing it to anthem which i think is not fair. I think they are very different games. And a wide variety of ways. I think the only thing that they have in common is that they were very promising up front and then it kind of left players wanting more from the from a content perspective. I do think it was a mistake for them to roll this game out at a seventy dollar price point. I think that that's too high. But i also understand that sony is trying to get consumers. Used to the idea that games are going to cost more this generation and the games at the beginning are gonna get thrown into the butts. No matter what no matter what game it is right like short of cyberpunk Quite honestly. I think that people are going to be upset at paying more for games. That's just the way it is and we're going to have to all go through those growing pains together. I think what. I've really loved about my time with god fall is that it really allows you to start customizing your game play right away so you play. The narrative is is kind of tropy in the sense of you. Know you play this Ethereal character who is set on a task to go after this mad god to prevent them from like breaking the realm right. The guy. I don't need to get into the weeds about that. They're not doing anything really super innovative with the narrative. But that's not the focus of the game that combat is the focus. And you have these things called valor plates. And the valor plays are essentially suits of armor. That act like a class. Have twelve different valor plates that you can collect almost kind of feel like the javelin in anthem. But there's way more variety in them and the design them is freely fricking cool. Yes wore firm is a perfect example. A lot of people have been comparing god fall to were frame but obviously war frames been in development for many many years now and i think the comparison is quite honestly not fair to 'cause it's brand new game am it's from a studio who a lotta people aren't familiar with by name counterplay games and being published by gearbox and. I think that this game could go on to do some really cool things if they can just get their feet under them but nothing. I played in the game was broken. The game looked beautiful. Game played supercross super smooth. I think it is. It remains to be seen like how deep the end game is going to go. But they're not alive service game which is something that i think. A lot of people are going in assuming and they've had to really kind of beat the drama of no. We're not alive service game. Were more of a action. Rpg that anything in the the content of the game is in the game. And it's tough. Because i think consumers have kind of gotten into this rhythm where they expect almost every major combat rpg hybrid game to be alive service game. And that's just not possible for a lot of studios so it's going to be interesting to see how the narrative and the combat and the progression keeps going. I've played about six or seven hours so far. So because i'm like you guys trying to split my time with games right now but i'm definitely going to go back. I've really really loved the combat. It's interesting because i'm playing a lot of assassin's creed valhalla. And when i play god fall. And then i go back to assassin's creed i'm way better at the combat in assassin's creed because i actually take the time to think about what i'm doing because i have two in fall otherwise i'll just die constantly. It's an assessment screen trainer. This zone assistance. I'm curious about god full. I haven't been tempted to jump into it. But i i've i've risen those mixed reviews in and it's interesting to hear you hear talk about it. Some kind of rooting for it but does feel a little bit like it's it's in the Borderlands model of good content coming periodically. But not as live service right. Yes exactly and i think borderlines is a great comparison obviously wildly different in a lot of ways mechanics arts style overall feel but it's an action. Rpg at its core that has all of the content in the game. But i think the content that's in the game is just leaving. People like wanting a little bit more depth and a lot of that country that there's not a lot of variety in the maps and others activities. That are reused. And i think that people's boris set incredibly high. Because there's some really fantastic games out there. And i've done blame people for no be really discerning with their dollars. I just want studios to be able to take risks on really cool projects and i thank god. Fall has potential to be really cool but people are so quick to just shit on things and it makes me so sad. I hope this game finds an audience and finds people that appreciate the work that the team has done on it. Because i think that it has potential to be really cool. It's a rough time of year. I mean i understand wanting to every game out as a control. Console launch exclusive and get in that window of holiday and all that stuff but man it is. There's so many things to play. And i mean there's so many things just this week to talk about The game that i want to a mentioned is surprising to me as being what i think is the most next gen game that i played all week having played a whole bunch of them as much as mas morales looks great and is it is beautiful game the game. That just feels like oh. This was not possible before. And i think hints at what we're in for over the next five to six years of these consoles. Lives is demon souls. That game is gob smacking. It is so beautiful. And i'm so looking forward to win games like assassins creed and spiderman in. Everything looks as good as demon's souls does right now because holy smokes i. I wish i loved that game more. Because i've been playing way more than i thought i was going to only because i just wanna see you Area like and with the next enemy. Looks like it is stunning playstation. Five you have. You had a chance to play demon souls. I've downloaded demon's souls. But i like you am not like a giant demon soul fan because i find it incredibly punishing if i only have a few hours to play games why honors fi selves. But i am looking forward to trying it. And i've had some friends volunteer to kind of carry me through. Yes the at least. The i just play the first little tutorial segment because it brings you through a number of enemies that don't really hit hard and then it gives you a boss that can one shot you But that entire sequence yeah well. That's that's the game But the the That entire sequence really. I mean the first thing you see when you turn the game on it says on the first day and then it like puts this picture on the screen. It's like that's the most beautiful thing i've ever seen in a video game before and it really doesn't decline from there. It is stunning. It really feels like they leaned into the capabilities of playstation five. I mean every every ray of light every area full of detail and like note none of the walls. In previous generation the previous version of demon cells you'd see a brick walls that are basically flat textures none of the brick walls or flat textures. That are all you know have jutting out and and complex geometry all over the place it just it puts every other nexgen game that i played this week to shame graphically and i'm down fit. I'm ready for the next wave of these next generation games. That are all you know not crossed. Jan didn't start their lives being developed on old hardware Really leaning into where we are with the hardware capabilities of these new boxes. Demon's souls is the only game. I've played that hints at what we're in for and Man i can't wait. I'm so excited. let's talk about assassin's creed 'cause i you said you've been playing a ton of that. I have also been playing a ton of that. I'm so excited to have a new assassin's creed after. Having a year off from this franchise. I was such a huge fan of odyssey. I'm playing assessments. Greenville on xbox series x. What are you planning on andrea. I am also playing on xbox series x okay. I decided to do that. Because i played odyssey on my ex and i just felt like Yeah it's feels right. And also. Because i felt like if i didn't play essence kriva hall on xbox one ex There wasn't much. I was going to be turning my xbox one xbox series x on for So you're not wrong. It's the only reason why. I'm turning mine on right now though. I did download odyssey on my playstation five to see how the load times are and boy. Oh boy fast. Travelling is so fun now. I used to always avoid fast travelling because the loads are take forever any more. That's exciting so the first thing i would say about the holiday on xbox series x is. I don't know if you've experienced it. But i've been seeing a lot of screen. Tearing which evidently is a known issue in one they have said they'll patch but for now it really bummed me out a having a brand new console that's supposed to be so powerful and it mostly happens in cut scenes Which are a lot of its ripple. Let your screen. It's the most power it's tearing out. Well i mean that's what screen is traditionally is that the display can't keep up with the frame rate but i don't know andhra. Have you seen any of that. I've probably seen a little bit. But not enough that it's been like immersion breaking for me and i think that those kinds of bugs like i guess maybe i just have grown tolerant of open world games from all developers having you know slight bugs here and there just because it's like open world games are hard and all those competing systems are hard but Yeah i mean it's definitely not perfect when it comes to graphics but boys at pretty super pretty the last two assassin's creed games really kind of opportunity with graphics. Odyssey was just gorgeous and the draw distance when you're a synchronizing from the viewpoints and just looking out. It's just it's incredible what you be sauce. Art teams and engineering teams. Have done as as open world games go. I've not been a person that uses photo mode in games very much but odyssey. I was using it all the time and i've already started like take a picture of that. That is so cool And i don't know how far you are. I basically haven't been in england very long Which basically means. I just very recently got off my starting island. But that's only because the starting island quote unquote which norway in this case is is so awesome climb the mountains and explore the snowy mountaintops and i just did it for hours just wandering around the snowy mountaintops and mining or in finding different places to look and take pictures. And little quests and wealth that you could find up in there. I was like. I don't wanna leave norway. This is amazing. I saw an area in norway that was like power level to eighty. So i was like. We're coming back here. So i force myself to leave norway pretty quickly so i've been in england for quite some time i have. I've made some really good progress in two forty. My alliances in england. But i'm i'm with you. It was really difficult for me to tear myself way. You know it's funny but you say not. Is that every time i started like an oprah. Rpg game i think back to your story jeff about the hinterlands in dragon age. Yes yes yes. That's the best advice. I can give to anybody in that game. Leave the land. That's what i tell you. Get out of norway. Exactly back okay. Well i i did. I did i did but i. I haven't been england very long but it's such a cool moment to leave this snowy dark icy area and enter into england in the fall. It's it's it's so pretty. I mean the the world nowy dark area or kidding no it's it's beautiful and it's full of greens and browns and it's like fall colors everywhere. It's really pretty. Yeah the world's that they build in these assassin's creed games. Now are just love exploring them. I i don't know what it is. I i keep trying to put my finger on what i love so much about the last few iterations of these games and i just feel like it exactly as his note. That just is so perfect for me personally. But what's your feeling about it andrea. I really like what they've done. It took me a little bit to get used to. I'm still salty that they nursed the bird the way that they nerve nerf it a mannequin. Anything with with my raven friend but I think what they've done is they've tried to marry the assassin's creed of old with what they've started with the rpg forward assassin's creed. That began with origins. I saw a constant q in the chat asking about you know. Is it more like the old ones are like the new ones. And i'm a diehard assassin's creed fan. I've played every single acids create game. I have all the statues of the assassin lined up on my shelf. Here in the studio and i love classic assassin's creed and i think what's great about. What they did with is that they brought some of those classic stealth elements back and. They're not easy. People were complaining. That the stealth wasn't difficult and ubisoft was like okay. You want difficult stealth you because if you don't have the game on easy mode. The stealth is israel like the guard c. You from quite a distance away. You can't just you know kind of cheese your way through the bushes anymore. Like you really do have to be cognizant and without the ability to tag enemies with your bird like you could in the last two games. You really have to be more cautious about the way. You're approaching large encampments fortresses. That have a lot of enemies because you can very quickly overwhelmed. And i think that that's going to be something that people really like. I do like that. They kept some of the more breath of a wild style exploration where you can climb almost any surface. I love it and i think that that is marrying some of the things they started with origins and odyssey and still kind of keeping true to where the roots were an acid longtime fan. I was so happy that they jumped into the modern day. Stuff right away and have a lot more of rhythm between when you go back and forth between. What's happening with layla. And what's happening with eight four and i think that for longtime fans that feels a lot of a lot more rewarding than some of the other games have been i mean particularly an odyssey. Go maybe twenty thirty hours without doing a main quest line let alone doing any modern. You know even even tells you like one of the early times that you're in the quote unquote present day the animists stuff in essence create even tells you like okay. You can get back in the economist. But you're not gonna be back here for a while so get your own literally tells you. Yeah it's gonna be a long time before you come back here But yeah i know a lot of people. I find a lot of people Criticize the modern day stuff in the assassin's creed games. And i understand that. It's perhaps a bit of underutilized or not fleshed out entirely but the idea that there are this this entire series of games in each of them is the story of this time period this character in this time period and it has a full arc of that character and all these side quests and that entire world is explored but then also there is this other meta story that only moves forward slightly in each game but each game is interconnected and an has that story that is that is progressing each gift. I think that is such a cool idea. And i'm so down for the fact that like there's something not very first sequence it when you come in this game involved khawla and there's some very important item that i i know what it took for me to get it in the Odyssey and it's like there it is it carries forward. Is this meta story. I dig that. And i really hope. That's the direction with that. Tv series that they're planning because i think that'd be cool too. I mean i have. I want the best for that after what happened with the movie. Very you know skeptical. But i want. I want something cool to happen. Because i think the narrative has so much possibilities. And what's interesting about what they're doing with the character. This time around is the they give you the opportunity to pick male or female ivar but you can also let the animists decide in the animus than will choose male or female at specific points of this story is really any time to act like the choices fluid in the course of the game for you. Yeah yeah absolutely. Which i think is really cool and i was pretty on the fence about if i was gonna like the settlement feature because i was like. Oh this just feels like one more thing to manage. The game has already so big. But now that i'm out probably twenty to twenty five hours into the game that i i feel like i get it now that it grounds you and that this whole clan that you have your raven clan that you lead as as was siegert as that it makes it feel like a family and cassandra didn't really have that you didn't really have that sorry by we call him back here. It was good games. 'cause he's big but i just think that's really an interesting idea that they're doing with ivars. They're kind of grounding this character by saying we're going to make you go back to your settlement to do specific types of upgrades. Were not going to make it a pain point. You can upgrade your armor to a certain extent in the field without having to go to a blacksmith. Now which is great but if you wanna make really meaningful upgrades you have to go back and see you know gunar at your settlement. Is you have that interaction. And then all of those characters interact does really feel like a family and that to me makes me more immersed in your story than i ever was in cassandra's that's interesting. I was going to bring up the same point. But i'm not sure i came to the same conclusion yet. I mean. obviously you've played more the game than i have so far but I do think that my biggest takeaway so far in comparing odyssey of all hala is that you know. I played as cassandra. I loved playing as her. I loved her as a character. I love the vocal performance. I just thought. I was so in love that world. I love what she was doing. I loved that game so much but it was this lone wolf character. It was this you know she. Would you choose to align with a one army and then literally in the next battle aligned with the opposite army and she was a true mercenary. She was she had no allegiances. Other than what you decided as the player and you know it was it was a a singular character in the middle of all this chaos and all these other factions that are at play and invol- hala evora is as you said like part of this family. I think every design decision was about making it. Feel more like you're on a team and you are progressing with a group and you know as much as i loved all of the battles that you would get into the can't remember. They were called the war of conquest. Your conquest right. I love how that played out it. It felt really epic and cool and it was just one. You're one character on this massive battlefield with tons of mpc's and you can attack whomever you wanted and that has been replaced. I think by these raids and so far. I'm not as in love with the raids. As i was with the conquests that grows on me but it feels a little bit like. There's like old Lord of the rings games where they tried to do stuff like that and and never never really feel like i'm part of this huge group taking down a thing. I do still feel a little lonely in those situations because it's just like pockets of people fighting amongst themselves and i mostly running past it to do whatever it is i want to do so i don't know i don't know how you feel about the reading that you feel that way because i definitely don't i mean i have any rates. Have you done so far. Not many i think three so. Yeah not a lot okay. So once you start recruiting your own. Yom's vikings which are the powerful people that are going to fight alongside you and once you upgrade an open your barracks at your settlement you'll be able to customize your raid crew the people that go out on those raids with you and then you will see those people that you specifically pick. And you'll see your yom's viking that you have armored in the armor you want them to wear fighting next unit feels totally different. And i have gotten to a place now. I i have not. I was really resistant to. The raids was also really resistant to the idea of the the narrative overall even though i come from a norris background my like literally ancestors were not and i'm from you know. I have a lot of scandinavian heritage. And it's just. It was the idea though of going into places and killing people and taking their things because i want their things. I really struggled with that where we're at as an enlightened society in twenty twenty Compared to where they were at. And i really had to let that go. And remind myself of the era that they lived in and how desperate it was to just be alive that i was maybe over thinking it just a little bit like this is a fantasy game and is all about violence. You should maybe just let that go. And then once. I kind of started to live into the fantasy of the vikings a little bit more. It made more sense as like hey. These resources are few and far between and you. Either you know make alliances people or you have to kill to get what you need to survive. And that was just the way that it was back then and i think we lose. Sight of that is interesting that they're asking you. You know sympathize with the group. That's like we're gonna come into somebody else's land. We're going to run through and and kill all of them set fire to their buildings and take their stuff. 'cause we're really nice. We swear a interesting. Have you seen the show. Norseman on net flicks no. I haven't i recommend it. It's all i could think about the entire. I five hours. I was playing. This game was is norseman is a comedy it's a it's like. If game of thrones had jokes like it's making fun of itself but it's all these nordic actors doing their authentic accents and everything and portraying this time period but doing it you know ironically and was its basically the office or something but instead of you know. gp tps reports. it's pillaging and going into war. It's very funny. It's very good show. But anyway reminded me of that. When i was playing i have a few other little nitpicks that i want to mention about. Assessment creed hala in my early hours. I'm sure people are going to hear me talking a lot about this game because i plan to play a lot of it but my early impressions. I really really don't like what they did. With the skill system and the branching. It's almost like path of exiles wildly branching skill point system where it's like this massive flow chart and you put a point in a thing and then it unlocks a whole other arm of the thing. Excuse me The thing. I like least about that to be honest. What what bugs me about. It is that i never know if this is the right direction to put my my skills into because it's all got fog of war on. It's it's blotted out until you put enough points and then it shows you where you're headed. It's like no. I want a plan. My skills based on the cool thing that i wanna get. I don't know if this is the direction to get a cool thing or not. It's baffling as to why they did that. I thought the odyssey skill system was so elegant and great. And i know that they've kind of Broken off a lot of the action based skills into into finding them in the world. And i really did that. Because i think it's added a bunch more puzzles into assassin's creed than they had before. Like how do i get to a place. I know it's there. But how do i get to. It is kinda cool but ultimately the skill system is very frustrating. And i think it was one of those things where they're innovation made it worse my opinion. I'm with you. I think that the idea of constellation skilled charter so overdone and it's like cool yet. Another person is making their skill tree of constellations. And i get that narrative laid with with norse mythology at. There's a basis there. But i'm with you. The fog of war thing was really annoying. I guess the only saving grace is that you can reset your skills and then respect them knowing like where are the branches go but that i know i know it took me like twenty hours to find where the reviews fall damage was in the skill tree. Oh god why did you make me go search for this. But i'm with you there that they've definitely a i don't want to say it's quite one step forward two steps back because i don't think that they've gone backwards that much but they definitely made some choices that or head scratchers for me because i think they nailed it an odyssey and they changed it for a whole lot on my but i know there's things that were so perfectly odyssey and it just change for the sake of change which i guess you kind of have to do with iterative series like this but it also seems like the the game as much stingier with new loot and they really put the emphasis on you upgrading. The you already have. But maybe you'll tell me that that changes as the game goes on. It does not as somebody who got the i. Think the ultimate edition from ubisoft. Where i got the bear armor set from the very beginning. I am still wearing that same armor set. Because i haven't had a reason to change off of it because i haven't gotten that gear. Now that's being said i actually don't mind that because i got really fatigued of constantly having to manage my inventory odyssey. It became overwhelming. Like i do appreciate that. They didn't have encumbrance. And i could carry a bazillion thing. I'd do that but it was still like a lot to go through and sift through every time you wanted to check something out now. I'm that once. They get a little bit further down. The main path like more types of armor will because typically the best armor comes from like major story beats bosses. And that's why again as much fun as it is to get lost in exploring you really do have to kind of push yourself to go down that main path to get the best rewards to unlock key. Beats that will actually make the overall gameplay experience more enjoyable i do like the the armor as you upgraded also will change. Its appearance has part of part of the fun of getting new changing the appearance. But yeah again. It was a thing in odyssey that i really liked this. How often i changed cassandra's clothes and she was getting cooler. Shiny things all the time. And i just love the look of all that awesome grecian armor you know is it was. It was neat hour like of the same firs for ten hours you know. Yeah that part is kind of a bummer in the stuff that the the cosmetics that they rolled out in the store none of them are speaking to me. Which is a little bit of a bummer. Though i do really want that really dumb unicorn ship pack so stupid. I wrote the unicorn in odyssey for a long time because select rainbows. But i do like that. They took away a lot of the time. Savers that they got grief over the loss. Assassin's creed which they rightly should have like. I shouldn't have to buy thirty five dollars. Worth of dlc time savers literally called time savers in order to not have my game go from you know three hundred dollars to one hundred hours. That's bach i. That was the super deep dive on. Assassin's creed involved. But it's a huge game. Evidently it sold double the amount that odyssey did in its release so people are down for for val hala. It sounds like it seems like and you're going to hear me talk a lot more about it. I'm i'm really loving it. There's something that they just honed. In on with with origin an odyssey and novel khawla that just scratches exactly what i like about video games. It things feel streamlined. In the best ways the exploration is super rewarding and find. And i liked. I liked the combat. It's it's real good. I'm really liking it but christian. You've been very patient. I apologize for going on and on about that Tell me about another game that you've been playing this week i want to talk about. Astros playroom because something we've all played with and where i want to start is that it's a packet talking package. We talk this year's a pack ins hankins. It's package and they didn't cheat to get and win the world series we're talking astros playroom not astros have the world series championship hat in my closet. I can. I can say that. I'm pretty sure that the playroom is where the cheating started. But let's one in which is incredible because to as as an old as an official old representing the consortium of olds. I sometimes forget that a playstation five is going to be someone's first console and astros playroom. Is mario sixty four. Which was not a packet by the way was not a pack in that this is bundle just a download it but part of this purchase price for this council which is not cheap but as part of it and in an experience that walks you through a controller demo you know for on tencent purposes but is also an outstanding game as who and tastic. Replaying the mario games with a whatever. It's called thirty fifth anniversary. Three all stars collection Universe is still a galaxy. Sorry is an incredible game. Astros playroom is on that tier like this game. We talked about aster a rescue as like nintendo had made people raving about it. You know blah blah blah blah blah. This is that again. Like i agree. This is third person. Platforming exploration mascot game have wanted to find this genre perfected is a demo for all the great things controller can do yes. Is that awesome. It's also a love. Letter is a love letter to playstations history to which is kind of a delight in and of itself much like rebels in that s running around and seeing all those little. Oh maget everywhere. yes like. The wall is playstation logos. The zip cords are what. Ps one memory card tied to ps one memory cards. Unlock the the fund. That like what. What's the uncharted one. Like on bought charted or whatever and a dude raider. I think gave her sitting playing in a little room or something like that like the little cheeky references and then the actual re-creations of old hardware and peripherals in game. That you unlocked. But then the gameplay itself the level design is exquisite. And i i called my wife and he got to play this. This shows off these new triggers perfectly. And she's like kept playing. You know like it's really well designed game that also highlights with this console can do in it is just so adorable in beautiful and bright and and so. That's all the stuff and then i'll stop here. Jeff congress say something that we all agree with. did does it need vr. Like all i think it would be better with vr. But don't understand our on islands. But i agree with you. I agree with you up to that point. I mean i. It makes me wish that it was in vr. because it's so great. I mean s robot. Rescue mission is is just so wonderful in vr. And it made me miss vr. But you're absolutely right. Sobe team is. I think up there with the greatest platform designers. It comes down to the thing that i praised with as well. It's just so full of ideas. Like that's what always made mario games. So magical and why. I think that Galaxy and galaxy to are my favorite or of. My favorite mario's is because those games had so many ideas in them. I mean Galaxies the same so many ideas. And that's what you find with. Astros playroom is every single level. You're like oh my gosh. I get to do this. This is incredible. There's little suits. That astro can jump into that. Give you new abilities a monkey suit like the first time i got into the monkey suit and you do the climbing as like. This is brilliant and it doesn't like they've done it. I now know everything dual sense can do. I guess i'll play one more little no way. This is incredible. Yeah yeah it's i mean there's bespoke little levels that do completely wildly different things and they're smart and challenging and interesting in their own ways. It is so good. And you're right. It's such a great show off to the hardware. And i think it's a delight like i can't imagine anybody not liking it in fact i don't know about you andrew but sony also sent me sack boy and i think that game is very charming and very fun but but it's also it feels a little redundant with astros player like astros is doing it so much better and it's free. It's like i kind of waited and released sack boy. Maybe like next year. But i mean i guess they were looking for more family. Friendly options at launch because spiderman is not really family friendly for younger. Kids and riddick shines. Cuban soldiers curly family friendly. Astros playroom does not have that multiple people playing in co op. That sac boy does. And i'm sure i have not experienced like that and i'm sure when you're doing that it's on a whole other level but just on a pure like platforming i think sack boys adventure is is really attractive. It's really fun it's it. It's almost like the best of the best of little big planet levels. You know it's it's really well designed has all those things you remember from those kinds of platforming levels but the jumping is actually good now. So it's really good. And i really like it. It's just that astros playroom is so much better and just has so much more interesting ideas in it that it's hard to go. Well this is the free one and this is the one that you have to pay extra money for. Just play the free one. I don't know. I'm curious if you were as blown away by astor's playroom is i was. Oh yeah one hundred percent. It's the i'm with you guys in the sense that it's the thing. I told everybody who has a playstation five that they need to play. I am like i know. You wanna play spiderman. I know you wanna play. Demon's souls please do play those but you must play astros player in i. Because it's such a great intro to what the controller can do but also it's just so whimsical and fun and the graphics are everything you guys said. The level design has grade. Anybody who's a fan of playstation is going to see all the nods. I just i couldn't get over the gpu song. The big guy in the background the gpu just singing his little song about being gpu. Like i. i love this so much. I so many reasons. And i hope that everybody who owns a playstation five is going to be able to play because i remember when playstation four launch. How excited i was to be able to show the original playroom to my nieces and nephews at christmas the year that console came out handing than the controller with the touch pad and the light bar letting them swipe up on the touch pad to throw the little robots around the room and how magical that felt at the beginning of that generation and sony capture that again with the playroom one more time at the beginning of the ps five generation and. I think that they absolutely need to be applauded for that. Download it like. It's there on your. Ps five do not sleep on it. Download it play. If you move on from a great but like don't just blow it off as like not for me it's for you. It's good To others that. I can hit on. Let's see I i find it to be an interesting time to drop. And i think it speaks to what generations are now in as andrea talked about kind of microsoft's philosophy of you know increments things are always changing. Is that the days of new console. The same day as the xbox came out destiny to release its big new expansion or content. Pack whatever they're called now Beyond light and the next the series x nps five upgrade patch. is yet just still the base game. I'm playing it on a pc mostly and then some on android via x. cloud. And i think it's a testament to what games are right like. This is a game. That's going to continue. There will be a better version out but they aren't rushing to get the best version out. I mean i don't know the behind the scenes thing but it's not like day and date with hall like play it here but you can play it there but still the same one you had but just on there I think is just fascinating about what video games are. But that aside from where i am in it narrative louis and i'm not anthony tower or some of the people that can really dive into know the larger changes. I really like what beyond light is doing with the story and how it feels more narrative than I just lost. It was the last expansion war thinking about shadow. Keep shadow keep yes. Thank you shadow. Keypad narrative hooks but they were kind of sprinkled into the daily grind. If that makes sense and i feel like beyond light has a campaign. Which i why i love can't was shattered. Keep to on my gosh chris. How are we not nerd out over destiny before because i've been playing autonomy beyond light. It's so good. We're great so i'll let you talk about some of the more intricacies in 'cause you're maybe further than me shattuck louis c. k. Di was the name of that you're thinking of forsaken the first romped right up comparing shadow forsaken forsaken amazing campaign incredible cinematics. They gave kedah beautiful sendoff shadow. Keep was not that beyond light. I think approaches that. Like it's fan service a really great way back characters that you haven't seen in a while and it's like the meaningful things have happened to them over the time of course like new ability is great and it just really really clicked for me and i liked. This is not a spoiler. If you've been following the news at all. I like how narrative they justified things not being in the game anymore. Yeah that's true of all. Tim roth or being swallowed like i like that. It's acknowledged and it also implies that it might come back which they've talked about things will rotate through the vault but like other narrative reason for why it happens andrea. I'm curious if maybe you've experienced signed. They're talking about the balanced not being exactly what they want to be yet. And maybe there's a patch or patches came out but i haven't gotten to that part of the grind yet Before i am i love. I love beyond that. I find myself going back to even playing mostly on pc's re pretty but even though it's not a quote unquote next gen game. Oh yeah. I think it's fantastic. I have been loving in. I'm a die hard destiny player. I play pretty consistently throughout the year. I'll come and go when the seasons aren't you know at the very beginning like if it's near the middle of the end of the season depending on what's going on but i have jumped back into beyond light in a big way and i've run through the campaign already. I've been helping some other friends go through parts of the campaign. I'm doing some of the odor world continuation of the campaign because anybody who's done any campaigns of indesit. He knows that the campaigns kind of lead you wanting more. And it's really just the tip of the iceberg and that you really get into exploring more of the cinematics more of the missions in the content that comes after the main campaign. I've always struggled with the way that bungee handles light progression. Because i feel like it's so grinding for the sake of being grind easy and i struggle with that after being a destiny player now for over six years and i think that i would like to see a little bit more progression of the progression through lack of a better phrase. And that we're not having to constantly chase this gear and use gear that we don't want now the way that they've overhauled ornaments in a how they're going to be eventually introducing a transmogrify station system which is way overdue for mmorpg's fps hybrid. That is destiny. I think is great but it's still not there and it's tough because as fans were like why isn't a here yet wise and here yet but the one thing i will say that i really love about bungy as a communicative studio is that they put it all out there you. They do these weekly updates. They'd tell the community whether at they've been very open and honest the pandemic has been particularly hard for them this year and that it's really set them back which is why we can play on. Ps five and xbox series x. but it's really just the backwards compatible version of the game but that being said plane on. Ps five is a noticeable difference particularly in audio than plane on the ps four. Because of the way that the audio processor on the ps five works in the way that it kind of decrypt that signal. That's coming in. I've been loving claim destiny on. Ps five and i cannot wait. Until december eight th when they launch the update that really pushes destiny into nexgen and hopefully will bring parity with. What's happening on pc phil confirming that. You're getting a hundred and twenty france for a second in pd on xbox series x destiny. That's wild. yeah and it's it's free. I mean it's game pass like you have beyond light on game pass which on on destiny continent game pass. When they announced that my jaw hit the floor. I was like no there's whereas the fine print and gets a great time to jump in like i don't know what it's like to come in cold but i think that does a pretty good job. I think bungy has for a while. Now done a pretty good job of on boarding people As they come into the game mechanic giving you a tutorial mission to kind of get you up to speed or if you've fallen off putting level the start the next things done if you're curious or have been curious about destiny You know there was the free version that does it but if you have game pass it's really easy to recommend as a game to sink a lot a lot a lot of time into and i can't i can't wait to see you know where it goes because it's something that like you mentioned earlier. It's like as a fan. It's like why hasn't hit this year yet but it's coming like you look at where the games comment i think they're they're working. They're make i love What they added to being able to customize your ghost kind of the things that that al. I logged hangnail. It's really fun and really smart and it's beautiful and like you mentioned console. Gamers are going to get one hundred and twenty frames per second and then this isn't exclusive to destiny but as someone who is not married to it. It's like game. I i like destiny. The way that i like regular season basketball. I'll watch a few games. But i don't really care until the playoffs. I love destiny. But i can't only play destiny right and i love the fact. I love cross progression any game. That has it definitely is not the only one but it was incredible to be like. Yeah you know what. I'm sitting in bed. I'm gonna play my ex cloud. There's my character there i am. I'm to just do some open world stuff grind up a little bit because it is grinding and then now back at my pc. There's my character again. Let's jump back in to some other stuff. Oh on my playstation four. There's my character. let's go play. I love that and destiny. Does that does cross play. Yes hits with cross progression. Chef's kiss jeffrey to run this last one or someone else won't talk for a little bit. I mean i feel like we can push the last one until next week. I haven't played it yet. And i will buy next week but if you want to mention a little bit you can t it up. Call of duty black ops world. I'm playing on pc. For all of those ways. We provided a code I'm only playing the campaign. It's stunning just course it is. I mean what holiday duty never gets enough credit for the technical prowess those studios have. It's just not fair that they get thrown the bus every year and it's like those studios innovate and do amazing things year after year Yes one hundred percent yes to you were right on studios like when this game loads it shows you all the dirty all activision. You like all of us. All of us worked on this work. Done this game trying to find it. I think i texted jeff. What i when. I first started up but i don't know if i can find it but like i don't know how they do it every year because i played the last one with you know some ray tracing also on pc as like this is really pretty. This one looks so much better in that. Good start the campaign. You're in like a bar. And so it's like reflect the and has just like i spent an hour and going retracing on retracing a reducing reducing. I wanna plan on. ps five. Because i've heard that the triggers are incredible for in the campaign. Each gun feels different. So i might do that. But the campaign is big and bombastic in a way that captures. I'm having finished it yet. But from what. I've played that captures set pieces that i think were somewhat missing Before like they've always had these big moments but it was almost like i could put my controller down big moments kind of thing and so far and black ops cold world they feel involved in the right way My only critique at this point is one jeff. i think we've mentioned before we played any of the game. I think the reason advanced warfares at the space one is my favorite called. Duty campaign is because it's detached from some fictional romanticized version of real world events. It feels weird to be playing this game and like with reagan. And i wish it was just like made up la la land. Let's go kick some butter. Who la la land. Ray guns than reagan. Right am i. Right reagan's with ray tracing our next week to y'all all played by then i downloaded but there's just too many games you guys. I do want to say before you guys wrap wrapped the game section. If you have a playstation five and you have a playstation plus account. There is no reason why you should not play book snacks. Oh yeah. I wanted to ask you a bug snacks because i have not played it so killing the reason why i should be downloading it. It's super fun is a game of the year. No is it going to make you laugh and smile and as a whimsical. And is it free. If you have playstation plus i just. It's a nice pallet cleanse from some of these more heavy action focus games that are out and it's just got that whimsey that young horses is known for so if you aren't familiar young horses at the team behind octo dad and they've been working on bug snacks for six years and they decided to launch and playstation plus which i think is a an amazing Decision by them to get that game into the hands of way more players than they would have. They just launched their Twenty four ninety nine price. Which is what i believe. You can buy it for on the epa game store. If you're a pc player in it's fun it kind of like mashes up the mechanics pokemon snap with a little bit of like a point and click adventure game and i just love it. It's just so much fun. It's it's so cute and it's so dumb at the same time and it's just a really nice change of pace and it's simple and the the bug snacks like say their little names out of the out of the dual sense controller. Like when you ask them at me and like i just got so much. Cute factor going on that. I had to get my two cents on their about mouland. Glad you brought it up. I was going to had a note to ask you about it. And i missed it. But i'm i'm so glad you brought it up christianity. You downloaded buds bug. Snacks have downloaded bug snacks. My kids like we wanna watch you play and i was like okay and then they were like art renegade boarding house like spider man. It is not somebody in the chat. Says that it does get dark and it does but if you have kids watching you. I don't think they're going to understand how it gets dark. But there are some narrative themes because you are in fact you know eating creatures and then becoming part of these creatures so narrative it does go play says but it's not inappropriate to have kids watch you play. Well my last little one one off before we go note is that i also played ghost of tsushima on my playstation five. And i think it's night and day different. I think the upgrades that they brought over to that game. On playstation five are really impressive. the higher frame rate. There's no is i. i noticed. A lot of jackie's in all of the moving grass and stuff. When i was playing that game on playstation four gone i think the game looks way better on playstation five. I was shocked with pain. Yeah so i mean there's too many i feel. There's this weird ticking clock right now that i have Basically a month to try to get through assassin's creed and all these other games before. I will cyberpunk gifts so if you'll all this pressure but there's but i kinda wanna go finish goes to sushi now that everybody talks about how much they love it and now i feel like i was you know bounced off that game i compared it to odyssey and for my money a lot of people disagree with me but for my money it did not compare favorably to that experience and i love the assassin screen new version of assassin's creed so much that i just bounced off of it but i think now that it is even more beautiful and i think maybe i could. I could fall back in love with that game. I will say make sure you again. This is the one of those. Make sure you progress through the main campaign because that game in particular gatekeeper some really cool mechanics behind main story mission completions. So if you don't keep progressing because you sidetracked and the world stuff which is way easy to do. You're not going to really have the most fun with that game as you can. But i'm with you that i still think apples to apples. That odyssey's is a better game. Glad somebody does. 'cause i get a lot of pushback on that both of you. You both no longer exist. I love the show. Thanks for hanging but honestly andrea if you have not. It's worth re downloading and on playstation tidy yet. Now good now now. I know what. I'm doing later. Because i am legend so good. It was a free update. I know gosh. It's yeah so i mean we haven't even really talked about backwards compatibility on these consoles but like there are some real improvements and i played gears five on my xbox series x and like i said geometry wars and some other things. It's i haven't downloaded a massive collection yet. 'cause like one hundred and twenty gigs. Something like this one hundred ten gigs or something. Got that china time. But i'm looking forward to it. I want to see how the old you know. Combat evolved books on on series x. So it's a great time to be a gamer. And the only the only bad part about being a game right now is whether it's console or pc xbox or playstation has just availability like that's really in there's some reports of consoles crashing. There's like the vape dumb gag thing. But i absolutely fabricated. Yes some some actual xbox issues on their actual playstation issues as well. I've had one hard crash. Playstation five and astros playroom brick. But i've heard like plates spiderman remastered. Maybe has some issues asleep mode. But again i i think the only issue right now is availability like both consoles incredible. The thirty eighty three hundred series video. Chips are are incredible. The switches still incredible. It's really hard to go wrong. Yeah the only problem is but andrea rene. It has been a delight as always talking with you. I can't think of anybody better to celebrate our new generation of consoles with thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me. It's so great to chat with you. Guys yeah we love you and we love talking games with you. Tell folks about all the wonderful places they can hear you. Talking about games on the internet. I would be happy to the easiest way to keep up with everything. I'm doing to follow me on twitter at andrea rene. Wherever you listen to deal see you can also find my show. What's good games. Do you can subscribe to us on podcasts or watch our video component at youtube dot com slash. What's good games Mr jeff cannot. I wouldn't fact will be on our. What's could games live next monday. The twenty third at eleven pacific time at twitch dot tv slash. Good games if you want to drop the follow so excited. It's going to be so much fun. I don't know if you've had eleven. Am jeff on his show. Before though. but i don't know if it's up early eleven. Am jeff post. Kids is has been up for five hours so no worries there yeah eleven. Am jeff is ready for his nap. Chris despiser what woody you got going on this week twitter as well as the best way to see at spicer and then last week for on monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday on his weekdays. I started putting up some gaming quick hits. So they're all about a minute or so and they'll be weekdays Hopefully they go before one pm. But i'll post them to twitter. You can find them there. And i've also started a playlist on my youtube which is a christian spicer seven one three the number seven three again houston so i have the world series championship gear. I can say they cheated But you can find them there. They're all short one minute or so things of Quick takes of a lot of them are about like ray tracing on retracing only one of them. I think is that in. Its spiderman is real good and Yeah that's it twitter and you can check those. I hope you like them. And you can follow me on twitter also. I'm at jeff cannata which is spelled tunes in t- I've got a number of other shows that you can check out. If you're so inclined the first i wanna to mention actually is a game. We didn't talk about. But i talk about a little bit next week although i have to admit i'm a bit biased. But there is a new version of rune to that just hit steam. It's just was released. And i do. I think four voices in that game of characters And i'm super excited about it. I'm super proud of it. I've i've been playing the game a little bit i. I've been playing it. Just 'cause i want to run into my my characters. I play four. And i play a bunch of other people So i just wanted to mention. If you're playing rune to in you find a character that sounds like me or sounds like a voice. i'm making Please let me know at jeff kenna on twitter. I'd love to find out. We think because it was it was such a blast to voices for that game. Also if you talk about movies and tv shows you can do that at the slash film cast at slash forecast cast a me flesh film. Cast dot com is where you find that show And i do a comedy. Science show with anthony carboni called. We have concerns. You can find that we have concerns dot com. I also do a long form dungeons and dragons show called the dungeon run a lot of fun last week wacky show. The title of last week's episode was off the rails and it wasn't just because they had a fight on a moving train with a giant slug. It was because the show was wacky and fun. Give it a shot. You can find it anywhere. Get podcasts but searching for the dungeon you can find it as a youtube show as well but searching for the denver there or by tuning in live on wednesday nights at six. Pm pacific time at caffeine dot tv slash the dungeon run and then lastly also Doing a show about sports There's a fan controlled football league that starting in february and we're doing the official companion showed a fan controlled football. It's basically madden in real life on you. Hill hear all about it. When we stream thursdays at three pm pacific time at twitch dot tv slash f c f. Alright oh one of thing. I want to mention If you wanna email this show you can do so at. Dlc feedback edgy email dot com and we got a great email this week last week. We had alex solman on who a lot of people really loved hearing from him. He is a former developer. Had great insights about a sort of behind the scenes of the industry. Well his son. Jake sent us an email this week at dlc feedback gmail.com with a review of our show Luckily jake really dug the show. And i really appreciated that. So thank you jake for listening to the show was awesome having your dad on and thanks for the kind words about the show all right. Let's wrap things up now with our parting gifts andrea renee. Do you have a suggestion to help. People get through their week oh. Mg the thing that i have been doing preparing for november seventeenth has been rereading brooke. Three of the storm light archives. Because i'm so excited for rhythm of war yes. I don't know where i'm going to get the time to read that book for it. I know here. I am like a third of the way through bringer and i'm just i know i'm not gonna be able to finish it but i try to read a little bit a couple of chapters at least every night before bed pan. I was really hoping to get. But i'm comfortable enough with the book that i have been skipping through some of the older sections specifically. I don't need to relive his flashbacks again. Like third or fourth time. But i mean that's coming out this week so cool yes brandon sanderson's epic book series I'm also a fan. It is so good. So i highly recommend that i can't the first book i can't remember the way of kings kings. Yes the storm light archive. If you haven't checked out start with the first book way of kings but yet the fourth one of i think ten that their planned. Oh my gosh. I didn't realize that many plan. But he has his prolific as an author. There is no georgia or martin shenanigans with sanderson. He says a book that's coming out. It's coming out. Yeah he definitely. He's a workhorse. Man it's awesome. Yeah great forgot that that was this week. I'm so excited. Chris parting gift. Acdc's new album power up. It's incredible it to me feels like vintage. Acdc you could have released this any time in the band's long career and been like yeah this is this is it. This is them. It's really good And they've overcome some hardships in to have this album. Drop this year especially during the band's been through into have it sound grades does It's awesome. I wasn't able to listen to it until it came out publicly but not got to listen to it and then i went back. I mentioned it a few shows ago. dean del rey. Got to interview with them on his podcasts at their retirement and like listening to the album now and then going back and listening to those interviews again. It's just incredible so if you like any. Acdc song ever Checkout power up in it it hits all the right notes it is it is rock and roll unabashedly rock and roll. It's really great sweet. My my parting gift is a new show. That hit net. Flicks is a sketch comedy. Show and i think it is genius. I was laughing my guts out. It's called auntie. Donna's big old house of fun and i i. I'm firm believer. That the the best sketch comedy show ever is mister. Show with bob and david but auntie. Donna's bigger house a fun is already approaching on that territory. It's i feel like it's the next great sketch comedy show and it is so brilliant so funny so out there. I was never superindent. Tim and eric But this feels like the the sort of zany of tim and eric but focused more into something smart and and more laser focused. I think i just. I love it. It's called auntie. Donna's bigger house a fun is on net flicks couldn't recommended higher. We also listener suggested parting gift this was sent to us at. Dlc feedback edgy. Mel dot com. It was sent by david. Who says hey guys not sure. If you've heard about this little game called haiti's we should've mentioned that once or twice christian seems game haven't heard of haiti's it seems up your alley. Well this rogue like has an incredible accompanying docu series from the youtube channel. No clip no clip has created some high quality documentary content the super giant team while they tackle the challenges of early access development from launching early access during the game awards to trying to hit one point zero during the pandemic the deep dives and insights into a game. I've fallen in love with has been a great way to strengthen my appreciation of an incredible piece of art in the gaming space. Yes i've also watched as danny dyer's amazing series a friend of the show dr And highly recommended very very well done and it will give you more even more appreciation of how hard it is to make. Video games a very very cool. Check it out on youtube. No clip all right. That's going to do it for this episode of gail is that though it's a little game called haiti's you should try it. I've been trying to recommend it to you for months enter. Can you hear him. He keeps cutting out at you guys. Hey it's going to do it for this episode of d. l. c. Thanks again to injury. Her name christian spicer for hanging out with me. Thanks to the folks in our chat room for hanging out with all of us live and making the show better in real time. We appreciate you thanks to our musical. Contributors patrick l. sean madigan and zero star making those bumpers that you heard and thank you to each and every one of you who listen to the show. We appreciate you. Welcome to the next gen will be here next week to continue our love fest until then think about what you put out into the world make it a better place.

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A Disc-Less Xbox One?! - Kinda Funny Games Daily 11.16.18

Kinda Funny Games Daily

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A Disc-Less Xbox One?! - Kinda Funny Games Daily 11.16.18

"What's up everybody? Welcome to kind of funny games. Daily for Friday. November sixteenth twenty eighteen. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller alongside the busiest leading the business AG Rene. Let's get Greg video games. Andrea and finally get into the weekend. I know I have been putting off and she in a couple of things I'm going to try to wrap up some loose ends like like personal stuff or video games video now weaken it yet as soon as we started. So in the left, I got up our shared you need to take a break. No god. No, please you play with the pain you play with the pain. Show must go on come on. It started. Kevin get him a tissue. Would you did know it's already gone. It's already going. It's blinked out. Just in case you start hearing. Oh my God. If you would hit your coffee, this would've been catastrophe. This show. Also, that's a roll of toilet paper towels tissues. Exactly sorry. Yeah. High falutin. What's good games? People come through about high falutin just trying to make sure that you get the delicate tissue around your. What are you gonna play? What are you gonna play this weekend? I kind of want to finish red dead the story, obviously, there's no like finishing that gain. There's a lot of. Are you close to the log or whatever, I don't know. Gotcha. Gotcha close like seventy percents. Okay. So I think I have a solid ten to fifteen hours to go. But doable in a weekend where where are you now with it when we talk that review embargo? Come around, and you're doing it more. Yes. So I got the opportunity to talk about in-depth with Jared on red dead radio. Am really talked about some of the things I'm really loving about that game. Obviously some of the concerns I had or the quality of life paint point issues that I brought up still exist. But it doesn't take away from the fact that it is a magnificent game in a variety of ways. And I've been allowing myself now that the kind of rush to get the initial coverage up his done to kind of take my time and some other areas Britney told me too late, and I would also relate to anybody else's playing that if you really are enjoying the exploration stay away from the yellow missions. Because there gets to a point in the story that there's like something that happens that will forever color the way, you do the rest of the open world stuff. And I wish I had done more exploration and open world. So four got to that point. Because it it doesn't make it not fun. But it makes it not as fun. And I can't go into more detail if you guys have played three probably what I'm referring to. But just a pro tip. Sure. Smart all the Whiteside missions. I know. That's fair fun. Yeah. But we also talked about followed seventy six. Oh, yeah. Are you gonna play? All I'm ready. You did of course to pay dot com slash kinda funny games right now, you can get my in-depth thoughts on fall seventy six. I'm playing it right now. I currently starting tonight. Jen starting plate with me tonight. Gary widow wants to be run through the wasteland tonight as well. Are you jumping on jumping onto you played the bait on XBox? What did you come away thinking or feeling? So I only played about three hours of the beta it was clear that there was a lot of issues. I was like, you know, what I know. I'm going to play this game. When it comes up. I don't need us anymore time in the beta. Especially since they got fix them stuff. I entreat to see how the multiplayer is going to play out long-term, especially since followed is notoriously a single player game as it always has been. So I'm curious how that's gonna work. We just saw new story this morning that the first group set off a nuke move new job. So I know that when I was talking with the girls about it on was good. We were thinking how's this going to work in the actual game once launches and so now we have video how exactly it's going to work. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Obviously a level ninety five enemy is way farther than what I'm ever going to be able to get to this weekend. Sure. But I think those kinds of events are an interesting idea to see how they're going to handle them. That is the big question for me to nights into playing fall seventy six now is how are they going to do group of ants? How is the were what is the future of this content? Look like, what do the future these events? The pop up do last night. I I was run around and event popped up. All right. And gauge, but it was just me, and I was able to through fall out, and you know, beat the thing and do the mission took me a little bit longer because I was all by myself. And that was cool. But are there more stuff like that? Is it going to get to a point? Do I need to be rolling with the group at all times? And then it was of course, you know, I came off of night one to do the games cast in was very much like, hey, man. I like this game. I'm surprised I'm enjoying don't get me wrong. Every this game shit because of XYZ. I see all this problems too. I totally get where you're coming from. Right. But I enjoyed myself, and I was interested to play more in the I teamed up with some Rando the first night we say mission inviting them to team we were on the team. We did our mission we bounced off dinner. That's the experience last night. Playing a text from Scott low like your world. Oh, shit ran over to Scott. He was with one of his friends. They were already teamed up. So there's this. I this is where it gets into such y traditionally stuff, right? I'm already I was already going to my next mission on level eight their level too. Ran up to them Scott waving at me. Scott's I had a Mike on. And I was like, oh, hey, man. But one like no response like waving ADEMA guy. Know, I get a Mike because we're sitting there and finally they just he popped out. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Okay. Cool. We were gonna team. I can't hear me for another team. Oh, well, no big deal. I'm inviting you to team. He's like, oh, I don't have the invite. Okay. You invite me? I can't about you says because we're okay, wait. You're you're just can't. It's thirty minutes of troubleshooting every multiplayer game ever. I know night to right. But it's like all right. Cool. Scott's like, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna reload. I'm gonna quit out and come at. We're all doing that. None of it's working. And I'm like at work last night with some Rando. I wish it was working when you it is easy when it works. And he's like all right. We can just all run around my kind of sucks because we can't see whose missions or what? Invite invited. Finally, Scott, conjoined, great invitees friend over and over again. He can't join we're sitting I wasted three hours to play night. We've wasted forty five minutes trying to do this running south. I'll see you guys later. You know what I mean? And so that was the thing that I found interesting about my first impressions of it where I was enjoying playing alone. Doing a normal thing it when people are like it's an empty experience or it's more empty world. I get that. And I feel that it seems like a lot of buildings aren't as I can't go into going as many houses usually password ever. So there are a lot of stretches of being on my own. But I don't mind that followed game. Like, I enjoy that part. I enjoy listen the holidays. But yeah, it was actually an interesting thing. How cool I'm gonna have a team run with like, man. This totally fucked up my night in the mission. I wanted to see what his doctors up to. I'll see you guys later, but I'm excited with us tonight. Hopefully knock on wood we'll have to party up to get into the game. But that's the problem is even if you're in the party, cool, you're in the same world. Now, you're gonna join the team like inside of the in the thing there's not a way to have your party. Like in the lobby before you enter the world. We'll see who knows. We'll see who knows. I bet she somebody watching on twitch TV slash kind. Funny games knows. Go go to dot com slash wrong. I haven't done any your else, you just broke my brain injury. They know this is kinda funny games daily each and every week Dan of righty platforms. We run you through the video game news, you need to know about if you like that part of the show kind of funny dot com slash K F GD with questions. Comments concerns? Bad PS names for a little while longer and everything else under the video game son, then tune into watch us record it live on twitch dot TV slash kind of funny games. If you're watching live, we have a special job for you. Go to kinda funny dot com slash you're wrong. Until what we screw up as we screw it up. So weak and set the record straight for everybody watching later on YouTube dot com slash kinda funny games and listening podcast services around the globe housekeeping for you next week is thanksgiving that means no live shows. No kind of funny morning show. Kind of funny games. Daily the game of groggy show. The kind of funny games gas and party mode role on on YouTube dot com slash kind of funny games and YouTube dot com slash kind of funny. But none of the live stuff traditionally expect. However, black Friday, we are doing a stream. That will be hosted on our channel for Amazon highlighting the biggest deals and playing games from noon to one thirty then on cyber Monday. The morning show will be at ten AM kind of funny games will be at eleven because from one to four were doing a cyber Monday stream, featuring all the best Amazon deals of the day. Come hang out. We're taking all the stuff. We didn't do live for a week. And putting it all together in one giant and catch you back on your live hours watched. Then I'm going home for thanksgiving. Remember, there's a Portillo's meet and greet Saturday, November twenty fourth one to three PM in Bloomingdale Eleanor at the Portillo's on lake street. Details on my Twitter. I've heard rumors you're coming guess is gonna come by confirmed confirmed. Right. That's cool. That's cool. I techs John this morning. I was like I'm going to be on the show. I should confirm for going or not yet. The parents are you bring your bring John's parents to Drake's full likely not because then they can hang up my mom to my mom's going to be there. But I probably have things to we'll probably do some shopping down there. Sure. That makes sense that makes sense. And then we're reminding you one more time about the. Rbm penny. Arcade joining up for join the conversation. The penny. Arcade are working together to start a conversation about video games ratings, and how to make sure content is appropriate for all ages and interests, we wanna hear from gamers parents and kids about how they use ESRB ratings parental controls and other tools to create an appropriate video game environment. You can join the conversation by telling your story in entering to win prizes such as twenty five dollar game stop gift card and a free grand prize trip for four to a PACS in twenty nineteen of your choosing in North America. How do you enter head over to Rb conversations dot org? Enter with a story tip captioned photo or video about how you your friends or your family, use ESRB ratings and other tools to keep video games fun in Asia, appropriate conscious judge to take time and be creative. You don't need to be a parent to enter they want to hear from everyone to join the conversation at ESRB conversations dot org and get all the information rules there. So they were brought to you by Luke great me only third love. But I'll tell you about that later Verna. Let's begin the show with what is and forever will be the Roper time Buddhism host. I think it's four items, but I'm so buried, yes. Four. Baker's. Thank you very much. There's so many questions about number two in the essays response. But even with PlayStation going ham yesterday, canceling E three from themselves. We'll get to use as non response in the second. There's even another rumor possibly bigger that leaves. The rope report is there. Eight discus XBox coming in twenty nineteen some kind of weird trade in program. Brad seems from thraw dot com has this report. And it's a rumor from him in his researching. But he's the one who broke the rumor about Scarlett that seems to be proliferating and everyday believing in the wake of the news that Sony will not be attending e-3 next year. Microsoft's hardware plans for twenty nineteen will likely be huge win for the brand and forgave hours. The company is planning to release an updated consul next year. But this device will not be in the Scarlett family, according to people from really with the company's plans. The scarlet devices are Microsoft's next gen consoles and are not expected until twenty twenty. But in twenty nineteen. The company is planning to release a disc council, and if this is making nervous because you have a large collection of physical disks for your current XBox, Microsoft has you covered. In addition to the new consul there will be a disc to digital program that as the name states turns your physical games into digital downloads. The ideas that you can take your to a parting partnering retailer like the Microsoft store. Trading. Your disparate digital download the goal with. The new console is the lower the price point for the hardware currently cost about two ninety nine to buy into the Xbox One family of devices, Microsoft is looking to lower that price by possibly as much as one hundred dollars. The new consul price phone is expected to be two hundred dollars or less. If you like this kind of information, this content wasn't covered while riding my upcoming book about surface called beneath the surface, which contains this information along with the story of how Microsoft built its billion dollar hardware brand. In addition, the company also has revised Xbox One. Skew that is targeted for later in the year that focuses solely on cost reduction, but does feature. Disc drive for those who still prefer the traditional way to buy games. Microsoft is moving forward very carefully with this product as it knows that a sizeable portion of its users do prefer to buy physical games in not download them. As for scarlet Microsoft is still trying to side if that console include a disk drive, but should be making a final decision here shortly. Andrea Rene thoughts and opinions. Well, we've been talking about the idea of digital only box from XBox for what feels like a while now. So this ever since of scarlet rumor, really, right, exactly. So then debut in twenty nineteen would make sense, obviously, adding it alongside their other offerings of the XBox family of consoles. Also make sense to say, hey, we're not getting rid of our disc based hardware, we're not getting rid of our retail partnerships were just offering another item in the XBox family. And I think that that's smart particularly more seeing them really double down on their digital subscription offering with. Xbox game pass and the idea that they've talked about bringing PC into the fold with that game passer subscription as well. Plus, this is such I think it starts laying the groundwork for an easier transition to scarlet to haywar breaking you in now to hey, those an XBox with destroyed and there was an XBox. Without? Of course, the rumor being this twenty twenty council Brad brings up is that there's going to be a skew that is your traditional soup dub XBox to whatever the hell XBox too. That's four K and has the district crazy. And then there is a cheaper version. That's just streaming games or downloading games in this thing. We're probably with external stuff, but using the Scarlett program. Yeah. I think it's a smart move. If that's the way, they really are going of like, hey, this, of course, just ripping off the PCP remembers PSP go they were the first they're way ahead of their time. PSP minis way, we're yet everybody you know, what I mean? Remember, ripping off if you could play XBox scarlet on the go. Yeah. That's true too. I don't think that's happening. Why was saying peace be go was right there. You know, solid state. We don't need anymore. That's what XBox is coughing. My question for you. Andrea. Yes, is Brad talks about the fact. Okay. From what he's heard. And again, this is all rumors take it with a grain of salt. Right. In addition. The company has also has a review a revised Xbox One s skew this targeted the do you think this disc lis- XBox would be a an Xbox One. X or is it is it just another version of the s or what? Because he always say because we even though we know that XBox has been really pushing the as your cloud computing for certain titles. We don't know how many titles are going to make use of that, cloud computing. Moreover, we haven't really heard much from their third party partners about their use of cloud computing, cloud computing. So it's hard to know how much power sure they're going to have streaming only platform. I'm sorry. I think we're completing two things right now I'm talking about the rumor for the twenty nineteen Xbox One. That is not going to have a disk drive. My question to you is do you think because I don't know. Brad's reporting isn't rumors right now. Do you think it's going to be an Xbox One s without a describe it was going to be an Xbox One. X without a destroyed imagine it'd be s because the seems like a more budget option and somebody who wants a more streamlined experience. The Xbox One x is designed for the high end, and that people that really care about the depth of clarity picture on there. Right. And those people want the the four K Blu Ray player. That's inside the x one x smart because I I was going the opposite with it. Just like, well, that'd be a great way to get the X in more people's houses. Right. If you were able to lower the price by hundred dollars, but that's a great point that if I'm buying I'm buying it. Because I have the super fancy nice expensive TV exactly when I did my in depth interview with their marketing team before the X launched that was their major talking point is that this is designed for the technology and Susie. This is meant to be a standalone console for people who are really nerdy about high end tech. This is not meant to be an all in one feature like the standard XBox? Where is so I would say, no, I think that it's going to be, you know, the more pared-down option. Let's see what Kurt van impasse to say. He writes into dot com slash KF GD just like you can says Greg yesterday you and John discussed the next generation of consoles. And we're both in agreement that the next XBox would likely be cross compatible with expo. One being able to play the next gen games with reduced graphical settings. Do you not think this will hurt the next generation of XBox games? The Xbox One s already the poorest performing of the four XBox, PlayStation consoles and cannot play many games. Even at ten eighty p if the next gen is more powerful than the Xbox One. X how will Microsoft ensure that it's next gen first party games as well? As all multiplatform games are compatible with the one s it seems like I'm sorry. It seems like such a decision will hamper the technological prowess progress. My politics of games as every developer will need to be looking back and making sure that everything works on the Xbox One s do you not see this as a problem? We'll place issue five games drastically more technologically advanced if they don't incorporate cross Jin, I the Andrea you've heard me rant and rave about this before that I think the XBox to for lack of a better term or whatever the next XBox? Scarlet will be able to play Xbox One games in the Xbox One. I think we will play whatever's coming next box Scarlett, I think we've moved both the PlayStation four and Xbox One too. Architecture. So that you can just have not super easy during the wrong, the settings and sliding sliding sliders to bring down your graphics and. Yeah, one looks like a potato one looks amazing. You know, so on and so forth. Am I crazy to think this? Let's just talk about XBox. Let's keep it XBox PlayStation five will not do. Sure, it's hard to say. Because it's I mean, the first thing I thought of when you were reading this question is is that true that a lot of games can't do ten eighty p on the Xbox One s that seems like it would not be true. So I'm trying to get some some some supporting evidence, please do right into dot com slash you're wrong. If you know of some supporting evidence that way. Yeah. Yeah. Indicates that there are many games that don't support ten eighty p on the Xbox One. Because that's that sounds like a claim that I don't know is substantiated. And if it is that's terrible news because I think we find the aren't an era where ten eighty p is the standard even though we're talking about streaming. They're still many people who are watching streams in seven twenty and like while there is a noticeable difference. Now, seven twenty and ten eighty I don't know how that affects people's quality of life. If they've decided that what they can afford or what they are playing at is the budget experience. And that's just the experience that they have. When it comes to what's going next. You would hope that they would make it better and flashier and only look at upgrading. But I think what we're seeing here that XBox wants to make sure their community in their player base has choice has a variety of options to choose from to fit their personal budget and their personal gaming experience. My thought is just the way XBox has position themselves and being for the gamers wanting to have an XBox platform. Which is why it's weird to be XBox too. Because I don't think that's how they're gonna message go with it would be that again based on the amazing announcements and programs. They have already with game pass with the backwards compatibility right with everything we've seen the XBox Exo eighteen event. I just think that's such an amazing marketing thing to say, here's the next thing. It does this crazy thing it's running. I this is also me, of course, being ignorant because as we're talking about like, yeah. The people who wanna she are. That's not me. I'm not I've never been hung up. Graphics to that extent. Are we talking? I mean, the Xbox One x already is the most powerful console on the market is the how much crazier is the next council going to be remember, we this is an innovative concept. We've had this this time around. So again, we're not even going from what PlayStation four is. What place you should five? Can do. We're talking about places before to placed issue for pro to PlayStation five where I feel like it's gonna look better. But when you're talking about what's inside of it what you can get out all the technical aspects. You can use for it. We're not talking about a PS one PS to jump a PS two to three jump. It's going to be more incremental to that point. So to Curtis his question. Like, do you not see this as a problem? I don't I think already that. If you're how many games are coming to see. And granted there's plenty people with PC's. They can't play those. But there's plenty of people who can just dial their stuff down to it. And then if you're courtesy you're saying, well, I own Xbox One s I'm not I don't wanna play at a lesser quality or the worst quality potato quality. That's why XBox is making something new for you to buy something new. They want money. They're not they're not saying you're to get the best experience. They're just saying. Hey, you're still long for this ri-. Well, I think if we look at what's happening in the PC gaming space. There's a reason why there's minimum specs that publishers put out with the games that they develop right? I think we're maybe going to see something like that happen with these new consuls that are coming on the line as they get closer and closer to becoming mini PC's in council box versus, you know, obviously PC gaming is where you can really tailor at your visual experience quite extensively. So I have to imagine that for when it comes to developers and looking at how the experience is going to differ, depending on which system you have that they'll always be like those baseline minimum requirements, and the it'll just scale up from there, and that's the that's what I've taken away. And I don't see that baseline holding people back again, I'm not the hardware guy kinda funny dot com slash I on. You're welcome to write in and show me in on the defensive way give me links in articles of developers who are already saying. Oh my God. We'd love to make this game. Look like that. We have. You're talking about here is the problem. Everybody's always struggled multiplatform games. And why you something like God of war, right or horizon. Like, oh, my God this game looks so good. And then I can play one of my games of the year assassin's creed odyssey and be like I love this game so much and it's beautiful at times. And then the though times where her her foot standing on like an invisible platformer hair looks heroics garbage kind of sucks, but I get it because they made it for PC in PlayStation XBox like adding another skew in there or another slider to worry about. I don't think the worst case in the world, let alone I think that that's going to be such a strong point for XBox of like, no, no, we are XBox. This is our platform. This is how it works. But greg. Yeah injury. When I believe all of this talk about hardware choice is still moot. If they don't bring the games. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why PlayStations so definitively one this generation is because of the software lineup and not just because people like playing on their technology, and obviously we've been saying at nauseam with all the announcements that Microsoft and XBox have been making about their studio acquisitions at they're setting themselves up for that success in the next generation. But I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see Weli dry. I think number two is going to have ninety questions initially they touch on that nerve as well. So let's just jump into number two. We put out a non response to PlayStation bailing on ether air quotes. That's what I put. That's how I call it. I I'm going to read the games industry biz article from James bachelor, the news that PlayStation will not be present. At e three twenty nineteen has not sullied the organizers plans to grow the event a statement from the entertainment software association, touted the record breaking success of this year's trade show in highlighted some of the major companies already inboard already onboard, including Sony's rival platform holders. Microsoft and intendo. There were also indications that the show itself will spill out of the Los Angeles convention center and into other venues in order to accommodate further growth last year. The essay said the venue struggles to cope with rising attendance e three may have to leave Los Angeles in twenty twenty XBox already had to shift its shift to its own space at the nearby Microsoft theater this year with the planning to once again invite consumers to eat three the L A C's limits are likely to be tested next summer, quote, e three twenty eighteen broke records, and we sold out of both exhibit space and attendee badges said interim CEO Stanley Pierre Louis we are confident that through the continued creative innovations delivered by participating member companies e three twenty nineteen we'll deliver the same kind of excitement and energy. This year. We're looking forward to expanding e-3 beyond the walls of the L A and connecting gamers and attendees with incredible video game content throughout the entire LA live complex was exciting. Because they got that burger place out there, the press release also featured quotes of support from Microsoft intendo and epic games, which hosted e threes largest ever in this epoch which hosted threes largest ever before night. Plus a list of companies confirmed to be attending these include the aforementioned trio as well as activision, but says Capcom Kinami square inex-, take two Ubisoft and Warner Brothers. Andrea rene. What do you think number one of PlayStation, not going to eat three for the first time at twenty four years? So just as a reminder before I give my thoughts. My husband does indeed work for PlayStation understand that is he came to. You was like, hey, should we go to three and you were like, no. Call this half and for the record. That's exactly how it did not have it took place. And I'm not speaking on his behalf or any. I actually don't have his thoughts on like everything that's going down. So the country. He's literally got back. He landed in came immediately to the pet hospital with me yesterday won't get into that later. But thank you for everybody who reached out. My cat is doing better. I hopefully, we'll get to take him home today. And I'll put out a statement on Twitter later today. But that aside PlayStation, leaving e three is, of course, like a shocking statement as they have been part of it and really an anchor of e three since it began, and as people who've been covering three for so many years there press conference is usually one of the most hype conferences to cover at the show. They always have an amazing booth with tons of hands on games. Lots of great. Opportunities to see new hardware on various years. So this is really quite shocking that a company is largest PlayStations pulling out my personal thoughts on it are like I think that this is a completely crazy and wrong move. While I understand the benefits of moving to maybe like a digital only distribution for your press releases all on intendo direct. The thing that I kept going back to his. How could they do this to all of the partners who depend on PlayStation at a conference like E three to really get the word about their game out there? And I was looking at all of the stats that you guys ran down the show yesterday celebrating their fifth anniversary of the police for and you look at those tough. I'd games. Those are all partner titles. They're not PlayStation party exclusives. And if you look at what really pushed PlayStation for over the edge of everybody else's generation, it was all of their partner titles. Right. And so it's crazy to think that they would leave all of their partners in the lurch. When those smaller developers in particular, really, depend on a stage like the PlayStation Sony press conference or spot in the PlayStation booth on the show floor for hands on for press in route to get the word out about their games. And so that makes me concern for not only their indie partners. But some of the smaller publishers that they work with. But also like what does that mean for some of their tent pole partners? Like activision and call of duty. We know we've been seeing call of duty at the PlayStation conference several times since that partnership began destiny has almost always had a spot at their three stages. Well, what does that mean for that partnership? That's the first thing that I thought this is a giant issue or issue a giant conversation? I wanna bring Benedict in. He says what's up, Greg? What's good entry if you intend to Microsoft? What would you do differently? Eddie three twenty nineteen compared to previous years to capitalize on Sony's absence. Keeping awesome. I you just nailed the biggest thing again, if we talked about it yesterday in terms of I mean, this is happening in real time. Right as we were acting happened in the middle show. But on top of me kept saying Phil Spencer all hands meeting guys. We gotta go huge. We gotta push updates. We gotta do this. It would also be third party relations get everyone on the phone Intel him, we got them. Will you know what? I mean. Let's let's let's expand the let's expand our footprint if that's possible. Let's imagine if your XBox you have the correct me if I'm wrong, they haven't announced this yet right on the floor plans out yet. Okay. So I mean, I did Brian Tahoe. Joe's time. It was great. It was really fun. Oh my gosh. Oh, right. So I mean, like, I if I'm Microsoft, and whenever I find out about this. And However, I did it would be like we want their spaces. Well, and I totally do it. I'm saying that they have their normal XBox base. But then you take over the PlayStation space in it is video games presented by XBox? And it is totally. We don't have exclusive rights to any of these. But we know that people need spots to show their games. There you go and the same for Nintendo right of like. Oh, wow. We need to do right by partners. There's so many people that do rely on this. I mean, again, there are people jokingly tweeting me yesterday like oh, man. You shouldn't. I guess this means you're gonna have to another kind of funny game. Showcase right. There were developers. Really deeming me going for real. If you do this any help. And I'm like, I I don't have that kind of. No, let's get one done. And then we'll worry about that. Right. That is a real ramification of this like, oh, wow. The stage time on XBox is stage. Just got so much more valuable, right? And they even really showed there. They're they kind of flex with their partnerships this year, if you compare the weird showcase that Sony put together this year, which really only show their first party with a couple of third party things in there and then XBox coming out the gate and being link we've got this game this game this game. We've got new trailers for all of these things that are obviously multi-platform, but you're seeing the trailer I on the XBox stage. Now, that's just kind of opening the door. I will say it was a little thirsty of XBox to get on social media, drain. Hey, we'll be at e three excited CAD Cam. Yeah. Show for me. If your moment. But no, I mean, they have to they have to capitalize on this opening that PlayStation has given them. And I obviously I don't think that place issue can walk this back. But maybe maybe they're like LL. Just kidding. We decided that wasn't the right call. We are going to have a presence at e three. I don't know if that's even a possibility. You don't think? So no way. Do they've said this. They can't go back on it. I'm with you. But like, I think, you know, maybe part of me wants to hold out help that maybe they'll do something different. Or they'll do something all EA play where it's not at e-3 Clark in that game. Informer thing was like, we're not doing anything around you. Yeah. They got six months to change their mind. I guess, but I think it's interesting one of their big partners sorry to cut you off one of their big partners came in like an activision or even like a rockstar or Bethesda and said, hey, we talked about doing this giant marketing deal together for this next. Big AAA that's coming. What the fuck dudes even out to dry. I think only in that case when there's like tens of millions of dollars potentially on the line for for a deal that maybe we would see some shifting. But obviously, we don't know what those deals are those are like behind closed doors things that we don't ever get to hear about until they're announced EMS the thing that I wonder about this is, you know, yesterday's question was I wonder when XBox new I wonder when they found out that this happening. But the then, yeah, you're right. That those those triple a partnership exclusive deals are already being ago. She hated in boardrooms across the world, right? So what point did somebody be like? Oh, yeah. We love to partner free three and PlayStations. We'll. About that. Or like, yeah. No. We're we're not or thinking and we'll see where new something different. We might be doing our own thing. Like, yeah. Who the hell knows what that actually shook out? And I thought it was interesting. You know yesterday, I started spending as the PlayStation guy like what their methodology would be. And why you would do this. I'm gonna do this event. They get headlines there. It was also this thing of an undercurrent today in kinda funny dot com. KF GD of people who were offended by this the right of in not even I'm gonna kick it over stargazer wrote in and said, Hello KF games daily. Hosts not sure who is on. We every episode. So with the article from variety about PlayStation, skipping three. I have some things I would like to hear from from you guys as an XBox fan since the OJ XBox. It is hard for me to justify Sony's decision. Not to hold any three events at all. If they ran out of games that they can show because they're holding them for PlayStation fives. Reveal I find that very disrespectful. Well, Microsoft hasn't had many exclusive exclusives in the last few years. They managed to get enough things to show and have a fully three conference. Why can't Sony managed to bring out all the Indies Japanese games that don't come out on XBox to fill the void just thought. He was keep up the good work. Now. I'm with you stargazer. That's a also very good point. And you talk about e three being a destination event not just for digital viewers who are tuning into livestream around the world. But people who are literally flying now to Los Angeles to attend e-3 in person in buy tickets for the show like one is the expectation for those people. I mean, what is the ESE going to do about people who are like I'm not gonna buy ticket? Now, the PlayStations not gonna be there because that was such a pillar presence at the show. I find it disrespectful is kind of strong language there privately held company, and they can do whatever they want. Right. And we as fans can be disappointed. But I mean, they clearly have a perogative in mind. Whether or not we understand that I think is a little irrelevant. This is the ripples. I didn't think about in the moment. Right. You bring up you know, what about what's the ES eight to do a fans like, well, I'm not gonna buy tickets. I was coming for PlayStation. Right. What is going to happen? When a third party partner is like, well, hey, guys, we really needed that time there. Wanna fan? Who's is thinks. It's disrespectful. Right. Like, I mean, I thought it was interesting yesterday. How your immediate gut reaction was like, well, they've got their big boy pants on their doing. So well, they don't need this. I think it's crazy to think that they are so far above everybody else. They're like, we can do our thing. We don't need three. And it's like, of course, you don't need e three in that sense. You've been doing really well. But I would argue you're doing really well because you have been showing your games and your hardware at e three. Right. And this is the thing. Right. The ripples of pissing off those people because the incidence to the ones what does he say going to what does he say say that these people? What if people don't come this like the short answer, those PlayStations problems, right? That's the problem and wrecked on paper. When place was like, we're doing this in where I jumped to right of like, wow, they're going to own headlines today. Get mentioned in all sorts of stories in every livestream. When people are filling time, we're gonna come back. How crazy the PlayStations not here? Can't wait to see what they do. And then when they do then it's going to be this huge thing. Right. It does run the risk of like actually might be questioned here. Right. If somebody's like can they ever come back? You know what I mean? Like, can you can they ever come back to three now because like ESA is suddenly dealing with a load of shit has been dropped on their desk. Like fuck. You know, what I mean like this is our event we love it every celebrates games. We get to bring together we make money on it. And we're business and all these different things to we didn't need the people who are at the top of the game right now. In terms of publishers hardware, being like now, we don't need to do it. Because now they've all new thing to deal with. And again, every time we say now is going to get talked to about E three. This is going to be questioned. This is going to be a thing. We're gonna wanna talk. About this in craft a story around it. And it's like fuck. Yeah. That piss them off. If pisses off these partners, right? Who are like now, you soom with the exception of PlayStation, if they already had a deal way long out or whatever with somebody now. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna I'm trying to get my game on a stage. I'm going to go to XBox XBox. Is where I'm gonna take this new. I'm gonna talk to you. And you know, the exclusives. I'll sign with them. Like when if let's say, it is just this one year, they wanna do this to promote to the giant event in then they do wanna come back and do thing next year at e three how does that work? What is the booth space? Look like, how do you know what I mean like easily be able to come back easily their them the number one causal right now. Sure. Like the sour grapes injury. I don't you know, who doesn't care about sour grapes money when hundreds of millions of dollars potentially on the line ESA. They're not gonna say, oh, we're gonna say they wouldn't let a black pulling out of each three. Like, no way. Man. They'll they'll welcome them back with open arms. Right. Like, that's that's a given your. I'm not gonna. Say that there won't be some probably tense conversations. You know, in as you say boardroom meeting somewhere that certainly is probably on the table. But the idea that if they do make good never show anything at three twenty nineteen that they can't come back ever as like, that's that's out of the rubble possibility. They'll be able to come back whenever they want. I understand it'll be able comeback as just a question of how many people they pissed off. And how many people want to help them out? Again, does this change the tenor of the conversation? The course of the river in terms of who's working with. I mean, that's a good point. I think when it comes to their first party stuff. They're like, whatever we'll d are on thing. Like like, I said at the beginning of all this the people who really are getting thrown of the bus here are their third party partners. And those are the relationships that are going to be tough to manage for that team. So Nathan c for Morgan wrote into kinda funny dot com slash KF GDN says much Greg and John yesterday. I was flabbergasted by the news of Sony, not showing up at all for three twenty nineteen while I'm a huge fan of Sony and wanna believe they've spectacular plans up there. Leave four PlayStation five announcements later that year that doesn't change the fact that there could be no foreseeable news from them in a conference for almost thirteen months. How can they be making claims to be doing this to quote, delight gamers when will inevitably disappoint fans like myself who look forward e three every year, I understand how Sony as a business would wanna play things close to the chest and get everyone talking about them. But after this year's e three and the cancellation of cancel cancellation. I won't say anymore cancelation of Essex, it really feels like Sony focuses all semi focuses on anymore is big trillion announcements and the running on those games talk about two things here. One of the first one actually pulls back to stargazers question right about what if they did Indies Japanese games. Right. I think PlayStation has done smaller presentations, and they usually take it on the chain from everybody of like, Lou big games. The triple is exclusive. I didn't want it. So now, they're kind of giving you dose of why we can't fuck in win. When we don't have like that. So we're not gonna do it. And so I'm not saying like they're taking their ball and going home. I think it's just the fact that they wanna have one giant thing where there are a million great huge announcements, and then there are hopefully smaller announcements that can filter out and be part of the equation. There was like, wow. This is a great conference. They had everything right into your question. Nathan of like, how can they they'll never disappoint fans like myself that look forward to three every year? I this is not insult to you. Nathan right for the most part gamers have a goldfish marine on this thing. Right. With the exception of my layer and charter three reviews. We forget everything. So you're mad now you're going to be any three. And it's going to be like this is so weird. They're they're not here. But hopefully XBox kills it third parties. Kill it. Nintendo kills it. But you're still like I wonder what they're doing. And then the hype train will roll into whatever event PlayStation is going to talk about. And you're talking about it's going to be thirteen months without a conference. Now, they won't be as they have. They have many games that are coming out next year that they need to do PR pushes about hold on. I'm with you. But I think that was something people were lost to what about anything. They're still doing blog posts. I still think there's probably gonna be ads on the side of three for games that they're doing things with the banners. You have out there. I don't think it's like ma-. We're never going. We're going to talk anymore. They're going to talk about other games next year. But in terms of a conference right in terms of there being a conference like thirteen years, right like still laying gratification where again, the hype train will roll of like holy shit PlayStations about who something on stage for the first time in thirteen months. I can't wait to fucking see. What what do you think? It's going to be hypotheses after hypothesis release date announced was this. What are these IP's like everyone's gonna be stoked when they finally come back right now he's pissed off. But God forbid we just play the games we have now. It will be interesting to see exactly what their vision is. And what this all means right now. I like, I don't get it. I don't see it. I don't understand it. But maybe there's genius vision behind it all their life, you shoot we're going to just set the world on fire you guys. Just wait. I know you're mad now. But it's going to be so epic. Why I mean, it's the same thing as always though. Yeah, there people are mad right now in what does that equate to in a spreadsheet and a budget line as the corporation? That's killing it in running. Nobody right now is crossing the PlayStation four off their Christmas lists and putting an Xbox One down because PlayStation coming to three we're all in everybody's paying huff on Twitter. Again, by the time, we get there. You're going to be excited about it. And you're probably gonna buy the the third party games on PlayStation four because that's where you are and your system, and I'm just going off sales numbers, not even being Sony pony here. I think by the time you get back to. Hey, we're finally breaking our silence finally doing something not to mention again. I think right now a lot of people do have the impression of it's like the wizard of Oz. And they've slipped a little door close. And they're not gonna talk to you until December of next year. That's not what it's going to be. There's still gonna to be PlayStation blog cast Shanley still gonna come out and say weird things on the blog cast that we have to report on they're gonna show you this is going to be gaming covers dreams. Mark. My words dreams will one day get a release date, and they will they will talk about it. And do that concrete. Gene is gonna come out. Cool gags gonna play. It is just a weird weird weird. It's weird move. But I do think it makes sense. I do think it makes sense. I know I know about this makes sense. But think about an injury think all the think of all the headlines, and if he doesn't go well like that in the navy. Does go. Well, it's like, this is awesome. I can't wait to just it's crazy that you think that he threw has a potential to not go. Well, I got into this argument with my good friend rake Arcilla on Facebook. He was talking about how he like many people year over year talk about how easily every year the coming a little more irrelevant. And I was like Nacer actually is becoming more relevant year-over-year because their own so many more ways to get information. Now, so many live streams we got people that are live tweeting people walking around the show floor with backpack literally streaming as they're walking around the floor. So there's more ways to consume three content than ever before. And suss more people are consuming it, and that's why I think it's more relevant than it's ever been. So that's why this decision leaves me scratching my head going there at their peak. As far as engagement goes about across all spheres of social media and ways to engage with content at during the show. Why would you why would you exit now? You know, like, I I don't get it someone you didn't make the page. But I remember reading it said it was this basically PlayStation taking a knee on this generation like where gonna run out the clock. We've won like what's the point in? There's an argument to that in a way right of cool. Let's let XBox spend more money. Three to advertise. More third party games that people are going to buy us. I mean, this is totally a if you want to be like, you know, they're the richest kings with their chalice up there ever. He's gotta put their money where their mouth is in by third party an XBox. If you're really mad about this decision. If you think that is the whole issue of in the crux of it like, I hope XBox fucking totally. I hope they what we pitched they bite down on her like book. Yes, I hope that you know, what I mean. I hope that they do. Hey, the XBox showcase is Sunday and Monday night where doing the indie games presented by XBox? We're taking over we're just gonna come in with a third party partner. Not even Indies third parties and do all the stuff. I'll put it together for XBox. Have a lot more gray hair? And a lot of experience killing me. Showcase sixteen. Three games, though games. Game is exciting. I haven't gotten enough date for you on how everything come look at. Trailers special guest. It's crazy number three four you in another jam packed episode of kinda funny games daily, the golden joystick award winners have been named. I thought I would run through them real quick for you. Andrea Rene, sure. Best storytelling, God of war. Best competitive game. Fortnight battle rail. Best cooperative game. Monster hunter world. Best visual design, God of war. Best indie game dead cells. Best audio God of war still playing world of tanks. Best performer Brian Deckert, Connor from Detroit become human east boards game of the year. Overwatch studio of the year s I e Santa Monica best VR game says skyro- VR out of here's Kyran VR. Wow. Okay. Harsh words for major in it. Can you do you mind? Good game willing develop for VR. It was developed for PC and consoles, and then it was ported to VR. There are so many games that are specifically made for VR that they completely overlooked. Don't get me started. We just did the games cash patient dot com slash kinda funny game today right now, you can go watch it early now. A bad game. But I think the game more is list is like perfect you beat sabre moss Astra Bhatt firewall or something. Great one. I'm skipping out on linking on let me look. Beat sabre firewall on sabre firewall. Now moss. Oh asked Noah said Astra book and the tetris effect. There is there's five nailed everybody. Can you know? Okay. Don't worry about it. mobile game of the year player. Unknowns battlegrounds PC game of the year. Sub Nautica PlayStation game. The God of war XBox. Even the air force a horizon for Nintendo game of the year. Octo path motherfucker traveler breakthrough award on world unknown worlds for some Nautica. Most one game cyberpunk twenty seventy seven critics choice award red dead redemption to lifetime achievement. Hide Hidetada Zaki much. The last names in for Japanese game, developers are so well known that if I can get to that. I'm usually good was that first name I stumbled up the father of survival horror games museology Sonal could've sent to. Outstanding contributions the XBox adaptive controller ultimate game of the year for night battle rampant. Even mean, it's the ultimate game of the because they gave game of the year for the platforms. And so here you go. Here's to rule them all runners up. Of course, we're red dead redemption to end block ups for congratulations everybody if you wanna here's predict the first half of the game awards. You can go patriots dot com. Such kind of funny games games. Cast up right now. Pre show yawn about PlayStation, anything that sounds right. Just wanna for free dot com slash kind of funny games. Monday podcast services. All the number four hold on a second. Can I ask you guess number four in four minutes? Something is going to happen on audit. Schenker's twitter. Of course, friend of the show came over Greg show with them real good. He made Kathleen for Netflix. He's made a whole bunch of other stuff to the bootleg universe. He put out a tweet dear video game industry and entertainment industry. Tomorrow one PM, which is today. Get ready. There's been rumors forever that it's going to be the original Rimmer was he's working on legend of Zelda thing from net. Flicks. 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Bad north is out on PC today civilization six on switch poke among let's go Pika chew. And let's go either on switches. Well, I soon Brit is dead from excitement she is at home in her charm Andor onesie plane. Let's go Pichu dad next is one of the game. She plays with her dad. No. Drag Moore husband is playing. Let's go EV. I believe. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. There was long discussion on slack today with my wife which version she was going to Mars chaos menace comes the PlayStation, which state of Kate gets zen zen. Zad hunter update, and then sunset overdrive on windows ten and steam new dates for you roller coaster tycoon adventures, the iconic fem- part management series rise into the hands of switch owners starting on November twenty ninth in select European territories in on December thirteenth in North America. Let's roll into deals of the day. I have to look for these. Now, you guys just send them all in your amazing. And I thank you. Ben wrote in the kind of dot com slash KFI GD and says just wanted to throw in a Canadian deal of the day. If I could WalMart is currently offering the Xbox One s one terabyte Minecraft bundle for two hundred and twenty nine ninety nine or force horizon. Four bundle for two hundred and forty nine ninety nine just throwing it out there for the Canadian best friends keep on keeping on Ben. We will. Thank you Emmett Watkins junior. Just a heads up to anyone wanting to get battlefield five as it releases this Tuesday at best buy they're not they're not only offering ten dollar gift certificate and steel book with a priori of. The game. But also give you ten dollars off the game. If you trade games from certain franchises towards it. The list of games covers anything else considered a shooter which covers dozens of franchises. That's pretty much today. But it's worth reiterating to look up warriors, sixty four on Twitter and sheep, ask gamer dot com to track all the incoming black Friday deals, and our ups are and the an XBox live deals that are going up right now. Speaking of lucid dream wrote in the PS and black Friday sale begins today, and God of war is twenty one ninety nine that's cheaper than it would be anywhere else during retail on black Friday event sales where I guess they're selling it in stores for twenty four ninety nine get on it. Yes. If you want to go, you can check out the PlayStation blog dozens and dozens and dozens of games are on sale you can get like, assassins creed origins. Gold addition like which is ninety nine ninety nine still on the store, but like for like thirty bucks now and Odysseys marked off ten or fifteen. So there's a whole bunch of stuff to get in there and go for and then finally agnosio Rojo says for deals of the day as a Thursday afternoon brawl Hala is free on the issue up for awhile. Has been giving out games for free without telling anyone, for example. When shack food came out, you could download the game for free also galactic Z was free one point. Thanks. How are we doing audience done? Anything got nothin'. What a coward. It's three minutes after one. He's late. I'm gonna have to call them at some point. If he keeps this up. It's reader mail. We're long let me find you. Good one eight zero right on into the weekend. Yeah. No. You know, what I might come back then when I'm flipping over. Now, I got to like for you, Andrew Jack Reynolds. The w I think it means Washington farmer rights into kind of funny dot com slash KFI GD and says, hey, Greg Andrea yesterday. I heard you guys discussing who could fill the Sony spot at e three I think there's a dark horse in the race that could fill the spot, and that's either Google or Amazon there have been rumors for ages about the two giant companies getting into the gaming world in what an opportunity to do it Google recently. Did it's game streaming thing. And it seemed to do pretty well a good pick. I think the Google pick is the really interesting one Amazon. I don't think that they care to dabble in something like e-3 because they've been in the gaming space now for quite a few years and they haven't before. And I think that their main priority is still there mobile, focus. Yeah. Because that's where they're making the most money. And I think Google is primed to do something really exciting because we keep hearing rumors about this potential box at they're going to be releasing and we have people that are currently playing project stream, and I think that's tied together. But that being said most of these big Silicon Valley companies choose to do their own thing. You know, like if you think about Apple's Keno were the keynotes that Google does. And like so would they want to do something any three versus doing their own thing? It's hard to know because I goes back to what I was talking about with third party relationships. Google is going to need to have really impressive third party partnerships in order to break through the established people in the space turn their heads. And do it right. Car has oh, it's devil may cry. Audie has put up his Twitter here, and it's an open for business. Okay cry. It's as Dante very interesting. I I don't know if this. This must be probably one of his bootleg films. Other call cooling. Bootleg universe. He does on his YouTube gritty Power Rangers reboot, a punisher short cool stuff. Like that. Maybe that's what this is. Go to YouTube in search ATI Shane car Boola university. When the pops up. Yeah. I don't know. It's my main concern with PlayStation, vacant in the spot right is now are they gonna be like seven conferences at once on Friday or Monday night are like is limited run games gonna run to devolve a run to it. And the people, you know, what I mean like we have to nobody runs to it will be lovely. If that's about don't get to sleep. Or you know, I have to miss that night how many showcases and hands on opportunities and things that I don't get to do three because I stay up. I wasn't a joke. I say doing livestream that day. I would love it. If that spot state open it won't the core brought up the bootleg university. Or can you click on videos? Did he did he up late? Anything recently. Is there a dome show? He's opening it. No two weeks ago. Put up conquest with ATI shaneco, keep your eyes peeled Riyadh. He's up to something. He's a cool, dude. Final question of the day comes from professor woke Andrea what if anything can you tell us about your future plans to challenge? The champ. I appreciate a good crossover event. And I gotta say I'd be totally down for seeing the kind of funny world championship belt grace. The what's good game studio set with his presence. I would love that as well. I'll tell you what as someone who keeps failing to dethrone, Nick. I would. I don't care. I'm anybody. But Nick, you can go do it. You're good at games. So am I but the promise somehow he was out of it? And I don't understand it. He's a squirrelly guy is I have some things that I've been contemplating some ideas that I've been stewing on. I do like to drop by the morning show with my cat. Meow name the Bank, right? The Bank and kind of mess with them a little bit maybe throw off his game. But as far as specifics now, I can't I can't divulge. I don't want long as you're thinking about the nation turns its is to use someone has to stop Nick scripting. I will stop him. She faith in me everybody. Professor walks finishes office, saying lastly in the spirit of thanksgiving. I just wanna say I am thankful for kind of funny. What's good games in hop? Live and jump thank you for the amazing content. You create the positively you. Inspire are crazy little worlds. Thank you. That's very kind. You're thankful for you. Professor woken, everyone that you kind of funny. Best friends who watch these shows in listen to these shows, your mazing, we can do without you. We love you very much. Speaking of let spread the love it's time to squat up. This is where one of you writes into kind of funny dot com slash F. GD give me your name using any from choice in. Why you need help and video game. I read it here. The best friends. Come and find you and everybody plays games together. Today. David s needs help he's help in excel in the PC. And then he says no path of exile. You hit them up on steam at no big deal. EH? No big deal. All one word. Hey, KF GD crew. I'm looking for some best friends to help me complete twenty four challenges in path of exile. Before the reset on December fourth after watching the path of exile trailer for a new. League betrayal that can can can can can. Conce coincidentally, bashes the hell out of Diablo immortal. If you haven't seen it it's worth a watch. I got back into path of exile understand. Most those words if there are any kind of funny best friend 'exiles out there. Please asked me to play over the weekend. I also be streaming it for the first time under the same name. No big deal. Funny. Final line for the trailer, quote, they claim they claim they are immortal. We must prove they are not love everything you guys do and switched my prime to you guys. Actually, I thank you. Thank you. And I have no idea what the hell you're talking about his trailer. Pathak's those path exiled put a distract trailer about the album mortar. I guess okay. Remember the view Amazon prime you've twitched you're thinking you're driving a car right now. You don't care about twitch. But again, you have Amazon prime. I know you do so please give us what the hell's happening, please. Give us your free twitch prime subscription. Log into your prime. You probably already are. Then you go twitch prime, and I'll take you there and give it to kind of goods you have to give it every thirty days, otherwise Amazon. On your money. I digress gentlemen. This has been kind of funny games daily injury. When he's got more fingers. We've got you're wrong to do. Thank you about that. I won't just like last week when I couldn't even put on the shirt and tie, I'm dead showcases killing me, breaking on devil may cry series joins castle. Vania in new multi verse from shingle. There's another cartoon. It says the series will be developed by castle Vania executive producer Shankar in exclusive interview. At Jan reveal that the series is now calling the bootleg multi verse as you mentioned do not give any specifics in terms of what this all means for the series overall store, but didn't inform us he acquired these devil may cry rights myself. So that your brownies and Hollywood don't fuck this up to audio right? Okay. Says his financial investment should allow him more creative freedom as he begins to build this wildly and bishops multi verse of his. He says the attributes the devil made crises announcing to the success of castle Vania, which he says really over performed did crazy. Well, we immediately got green lit for season. Three thanking the fans who made this possible Schenker said I wouldn't have a job. If it wasn't for the fans. Of course, shared the image on social media. All right. More to come up with ATI is up to Angie, you're correct. I am wrong. When we're on the show, we asked people who are watching live onto which is kinda funny game to go to dot com slash wrong. And tells what we screw up as we screwed up. So we can set the record straight for everybody on YouTube dot com slash kind of funny games and everybody watching. You're listening later on podcast services. What do we get wrong today? Kyle literally says not a your own just thanksgiving. Thank you for all that you do next week. Keep stuffing that Turkey on all the YouTube on the podcasts and on the Amazon on Friday. Yeah. Kebabs not a you're wrong. But still important is the Amazon stream mentioned housekeeping at all similar to the Amazon prime day stream earlier this year is exactly the same thing. Yeah. We're we're going gonna go through. We're gonna play video games that you can get deals on and show you tack and I think last time around they were like, hey, here's some cool headphones in Nick, warm like Jordan before it, and that's the kind of content. You can expect Downey Downer. San says Xbox One s an original models run most games at nine hundred P. An upscale to ten eighty p cited from the taco articles. Well, many digital foundry comparisons there. Cool going to. But he's at lunch and the doorbell just rang. However, I checked this link that link is from two thousand thirteen so that would not intrude the Xbox One s. Was not released down downing. So that being said. Master six wrote in and said, hey Creggan. Andrea the launch Xbox One did nine hundred P Xbox One s did ten eighty p with Phuc Fouquet four K. My blue Xbox One. X does twenty one sixty p four K with four K Blu-ray. So those are the specs even get across the councils that being said, I still don't have too much information anonymous, which is kind of hilarious linked digital foundry which gave some popular games right now on Xbox One s resolutions red dead is eight hundred sixty four P odyssey is searching forty four by seven fifty six and college duty is sixteen hundred by nine hundred dynamically downgrades to ten twenty four by seven sixty eight. So of course, none of those are ten eighty p which is interesting did not realize so that is helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Let's see here. Be mocked editorializing. Zaire road with some more games that have a difference. But this list from twenty sixteen we're not gonna read that out today that we missed from Brian Sweeney sieve six on switch on Greg. One more turn. Incorrect motherfucker is said that rewind the show and then to make up for it. Subscribe at the fifteen dollar level on patriots dot com slash kind of funny games. I just had to set it up you guys. Okay. Oh, this is interesting day. The tar said missed new dates might is come to switch starting January twenty ninth and closed beta along with cross platform and progression. Except PSN. Remember, they're still in beta with fortnight, they haven't opened it. There was a question about that. So that's how I was going to do that. But we went. So that's interesting. Interested place might switch. Okay. Anthro medal says Andrea. Shit. Yeah. No. I'm just thinking he says, you said Dhaka muzak is the godfather survival horror. But he's the creator of dark souls. Did you mean Shinji me the creative resident evil evil within just clarifying? I think you're correct. But I did get those two guys. Can there's a good your own like these are both dark scary games that I don't like that would be it. Thank you for that. Clarifications is exactly what you're wrong for. That's how you do it. Then somebody that hot Shankar wrote it with a YouTube video is that really Audie shank. Are you think I don't know really Texas? So the country right now Jeff guy, he's live on gene right now. So I if you live or is it a being interviewed by Jackie on gen when I was wasn't his views 'cause you understand you can record video and put them up at a later. Oh, you can you. I had no idea. She was just thing. I believe it's live. Okay. And then this other person writes in about I Jan? 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PSN Name Change Wrinkles - Kinda Funny Games Daily 10.23.18

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PSN Name Change Wrinkles - Kinda Funny Games Daily 10.23.18

"What's up. Everybody welcome to kinda funny games daily for Tuesday, October twenty third twenty eighteen. I'm one of your host, Greg Miller alongside the busiest lady in the business injury, Rene. Let's good. Greg, video games other so many good ones right now, our top of the list Ghostbusters world as they battle over here in the ghost to now what you might be saying is Greg, I read on the Ghostbusters world sub read it. You were having with crashing inside of the story mode and goes tower. What I'm here to tell you. Andrea Rene is I might have solved the issue by taking auto turns down two times. One not times to that appears to be going for well, we'll be able to beat them in this story. We'll see right now. We don't know how you what are you playing. Well, I'm playing a game I can't talk about, but I've also, that's that's gosh. I wish. Definitely excited to check that out. I'm but I've also been playing destiny festival is happening, and I love some good Halloween theme stuff. Sure. And I've also been playing some assassin's creed odyssey. Have you checked your trophies? Are you going to platinum it or not? I've told you this yesterday. I'm not gonna plan, but I like to think I put the bug in your ear, you so committed already so into it, why not why I've taken three day break and I'm trying to get cleaned from it. Gonna go. Yeah, you gotta get back in there. I don't know. I think you can't give. We'll see excited. All right. News nutshells. Fantastic. That sounds fantastic. I totally that rain heard not low. Fantastic. What the hell's you say Kevin stroke might be? They know. Funny games daily each and every week, Dan variety of platforms. We run you the nerdy video game news. You need know about if you like that. Be part of the show kind of funny dot com. Slash KFI GD with your questions, comments, bad PSN names for a little bit wilder and everything else under the video game, son, then watches recorded live twitch, dot TV, slash kind of funny games. 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Motari, enjoy all manner of things and get my notes sent to you at the end of the month today on returning to is Ian podcast beyond right after this running back there to film land. I gotta get back in the. Well, no. But when she did it, you have to answer it's a call and response. You know what I mean? Can you don't understand beyond you? Never hurt. So send them your questions. Look for the episode tomorrow, Kevin. That's fine. Don't yell at her Kevin. I heard you guys had a fight. Don't act like you're cool with me because now you're trying to take back. What happened on social media. I don't understand. So during the morning show when there was a bunch of ruckus happening, I walked in to figure out what all the commotion was about. And then we want this morning watch the raccoon unless deep Kevin back there with his feet up on the desk once everything has relaxed, I was just I was just commenting on the fact that he was just straight Chilin back there. And so I brought up my phone and did a little Instagram story. I said, hey, Kevin, working harder, hardly working because that's a funny thing to say. And then he got, he thinks we're gonna fight. Now. That's how Kevin does Kevin only knows how to show love through fight. He doesn't have any other way. He's really just mad that I didn't tag him in the story. You can't reshare eight that that's a stupid thing. Show share any story who cares. She there anyway. And then sometimes you tag people in the Instagram story doesn't even work. Annoying today were brought to you by Lou Craig quip and third love. But I'll tell you about that later for now let's begin the show with what is an forever will be the rope report. Time for some new. Three items on the report biggers. That's a really good one. I appreciate that. Impressive. We have a little bit more on the PlayStation name-change details. This is from reset era user as dune. How you do anything as down hazy d. o. u. n. e. as down as down face down as down, no way would like to reset air Do same. I'm gonna, say as down because it sounds like that, of course what's happening right now is if you're some of the PlayStation testers out there are the people in the betas are getting a new firmware for their PlayStation four, which is allowing for name changes. This is from the official Email, right? Not all in. So it's worth pointing out by the way before I even dive into this, this is what's happening right now in the beta test period. Will this be what it's like when they launched the official name changes who knows probably in some respects, but here's how bad it is, not all games and applications for PlayStation four PS three p. Vida and other PlayStation systems support the online ID change feature. If you change your online. ID Cohen. You may lose access to content including paid for content that you've acquired for your games, including content like add ons and virtual currency. You may lose your progress within games, including game, saved, data leaderboard data and progress towards trophies. Parts of your games and applications might not function properly both online and offline. Your previous online I, these may remain visible to you and other players in some places. If your previous online ID violates any of the current terms of services, you will not be able to revert back to your previous online ID. So beware p with bad PSA names and thinking about this is your solution. You can revert to your previous online ID once per account during the preview period. Sub accounts cannot utilize the change online ID feature after you change your online d, it may take a few hours for some services and applications to reflect the new idea changing back to your previous online. ID may fix all of your maith may not fix all issues, parentheses. You may not recover all or. Any whilst content progress and functionality? Well, this is terrible news. The expected no way do expect that PlayStation blog post they put up, yes. Okay. Based on that, but like to be expected, how how are you going to roll out a feature that may not recover all or any loss content, progress and functionality? That's a giant fucking if Greg, I'm aware all waited so long, no dude. If this is on the table as a possibility, keep your bad PS. Don't do it kids. Here's the figures I my take away from. It would be that I would imagine what they're talking about for the most of this of this could totally fuck everything up is some PlayStation three game. You're probably not playing anymore, probably. Yeah, but they don't say that, of course they got cover their acid understand this is the biggest umbrella statement, right? But thing like you're on the day, the blog did the name changes me talking about it there. We're when I was. Quoting it talking about it. I'm like, keep in mind what they're saying here because they're like, hey, this might be this could be a problem. It might be a problem we're gonna have to together, which means it's going to be huge fucking problem because when you say, hey, we're gonna have a little bit of problems, and we'll get to a question about the Bethesda stuff for mystery too. When you say there might be a problem, you get in front of the problem. That means, you know, there's going to be a bunch of problems because this is a super complicated thing that they're trying to Richard retroactively fix two thousand and six, right? Like cover design all the PSN back. Then they weren't thinking about any of these problems in here. We go get your bandaids and chewing gum ready. You guys wanted it strap in. I think you're giving them too much credit XBox figured it out. I mean, I'm giving credit in terms of the reality of how the system is. I'm not giving him credit as like what a great solution. Everybody. Homerun. You know what I mean? I would be curious to know from best friends out there that are eager to change their PSI dis. Is it worth the risk? Are you going to take this risk right into kind of dot com slash KFI. Wait for all the fan of memes, right. What did it cost you to change your name? Lady liquor sixty nine everything. It's going to be. But here's the other thing too, is that this is the beta period. So maybe this is where they're trying to just figure out how bad it's going to be and see. This is the thing to remember. This was the temporary period to try it out or whatever, and then they're going to roll it out and twenty nineteen to everyone. So like right now it's totally you are getting to be this Guinea exactly. You ought to ram the lab and they're just feeding you pills and they're going to see what takes. What does it? I wonder if you do a full backup, like on an external hard drive of all of your safe files and all of your game data, if that would still matter. It sounds like it wouldn't. It sounds like h. e. I mean, that's the problem is if you change your name, right. Okay, cool. I've changed my name, your saves in their off the side, then it's going to be huge rigmarole of them not working. And if you revert back changing back to your previous on lady may not fix all issues, but how. Oh, Yikes. Bless you out there. You beta users who are like, you know what? I will risk it. All I no longer wanna be done. Beat eighty nine. I'm going to. Onto his out. I'm gonna solve the problem. So the rest of you may live. You know what I mean? We will build statues in your honor and PlayStation home. Number two, I I didn't get any. I usually get a grown from Andrea when she reads headline. She doesn't like wrote this one on my own lab. In the class, though. Coming to classrooms around North America. Let's read about it. Nintendo in the institute of play of teamed up to bring intendo Abba kits into elementary classrooms. Nationwide. Combining the innovative play of Nintendo Abba with the basic principles of science, technology, engineering, art, and mathematics steam got away from stem. Now, it steam to inspire kids and help make learning fun. Nintendo will provide intendo lab override kits and intend to switch systems to participating classrooms to reinforce skills such as communication, creativity, critical and critical thinking. The program aims to reach approximately two thousand students Asia's eight to eleven during the twenty eighteen twenty nineteenth school year being to play is currently conducting a pilot program with schools in the greater New York area. Nintendo and the institute of play will use these pilot classes to develop an intendo lab. Oh, teacher guide that will allow other educators to implement intendo Abbott in the classroom to promote the development of skills such as creative problem solving in collaboration, the Nintendo lab, oh teacher, God will include sample lesson plans. And learning modules dedicated to basic elements of steam and make play and discover components of Nintendo lab. The guide will be available for free later this fall to anyone who wants to incorporate Nintendo into their classrooms or homes. Once the pilot is complete, the program will expand to approximately one hundred schools across the United States schools that wish to take part in the program can't apply at institute of play dot org slash Nintendo lab. Each participating school will be provided with Nintendo switch systems and intendo APO variety kits as well as the Nintendo Lavaux teacher guide the in classroom program will run through March twenty nineteen. This program is part of a broader North American initiative to introduce Nintendo Lavaux, different educational settings in Canada, Nintendo's, partnering with actual Canada's leading education outreach organization for stem topics. They didn't add the art. They're holding strong. It'd be in stem. I mean, strong now. Listen the recognize Arlene bullshit. Adding art into there. You don't have to convince kids to do art when they're when they're in. School, you have to convince them to do fucking math. You got a kick kick the a out. Need any help. Get your aspect to fucking Canada, then all right to inspire Canadian youth to be innovators tomorrow through digital literacy programs that offer hands on experiences with new and emerging technologies like Nintendo switch Nintendo. What a cool program? I like that one. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, that's cool. Nintendo lab of course, seems interesting Kevin refuses to buy it for me to play with. So I mean, you're an adult. You can buy it for yourself. I don't blame you for that gives us nice. Yeah. Oh, cool together in classrooms and actually see how I'm very, what I'm interested for is when they put up the lesson plan for free like there in the fall, their faculty manual, whatever. That's something I'd love to download into play of and see what a lesson plan is and screw around with that and see what they do. But I think it's really cool way. Get kids interested in building in creating and sharing. I hope Nintendo plans to donate quite a few of these LeBow kits because they are not cheap. So the really expensive inexpensive tool for a teacher to bring into a classroom to have to for them to pay on their own. Because I doubt any public school system, at least states is going to approve buying Nintendo products with the two thousand Ryan than rolling out two hundred more schools cross United States. One hundred schools across the United States is nothing. Entry even rop. Book schools, estate done are using. Hey, they're trying something out there putting that. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to take away from that saying, I hope that they're going roll the set to more than just one hundred schools, right? Yeah, Nintendo, you've got money. You can do it. Just cardboard. True. Do it scar board partner, Domino's number three, Brig news. Everybody may be kind of not really in television is back. Yeah, thank you. Kevin. Charlie hall has report over a polygon in television to home video game console that first launching nineteen seventy nine is planning a comeback in a new family friendly format. The modernize platform called Emeco will include the originals iconic Omni directional disks are disk as well as a full color touch on one controller. The expected release date is October tenth twenty twenty nine. Televisions leadership team led by chief executive officer and video game. You musician. Tommy Taylor Rico is making some bold claims about its device which is still on the drawing board. Chief among them is the council's price point said to be between one hundred. And forty nine in one hundred and seventy nine US dollars. Additionally, every single game published for the platform will be exclusive in cost between two ninety nine and seven ninety nine. They said it will launch several built in titles and over twenty more games in its online store. Quote, we are creating a console that parents want to buy. Not that they were asked to buy. Tell Rico said during a keynote address at the Portland retro gaming expo this past weekend. Most every go home. I'll hold for Kevin's laughter. Most every game being made for the home for home or for the home consoles. These days is created with only the hardcore gamer in mind. He continued. We see a world where everyone is interested in playing at home in with friends, but this isn't currently possible because of the barrier to entry is nearly impossible for non gamer. Dude. It's complexity. Size, any harder, Andrea. These parents, they're too busy with turbo tax and whatever world of warcraft expansion. They're playing PC's. They don't understand control. I will start again, it possible for non game or the complexity of the controllers intricacy of the game, play expensive hardware and software in steep learning curve with an unbalanced fun factor for the beginner. Our goal was to create a console gamers and non gamers are able to have fun with and play together. The television Emeco is our answer to this gaping hole. We see within the current video game industry. I almost edited some of this out left it so preposterous, you're an audio listener. I urge you to go watch back. What just happened is Andrea rings. The desk moves around as if possessed. 'cause Dr for the co shows in all white console with a built in with building ambient lighting, prominently featured on top are a pair of bluetooth controllers that pay tribute to the televisions rectangular keypad design each. Will include a touchscreen circular direction pad and tactile buttons along the left and right side gyroscope an excel or ometer accelerator. Accelerometer did. I did say right first hickory growing star from me. Whereas my stem degree allow for motion control up to six other players able to connect to the device using a free smartphone app for IOS and Android. The launch lineup includes a number of reimagined titles, including Astra, smash, snafu, Tron deadly discs in star strike. It will also have a version of cloudy, mountain crown of kings. A rebranded take on advanced dungeons and dragons cloudy mountain cloudy. One of the first console role playing games licensed from t s are Inc. The council will offer numerous titles from the Atari catalog. Andrea go to town. All right. It's still hard here, common person play game. Here's the positive thing to say about this is that the form factor looks great, clean white. Got those nice. Little ambient lights looks like a cute little display in line with what we've seen from classic or mini additions of several consuls that have come out. So that looks good. I think this quote is absolutely out of touch with where video games are at in twenty eighteen this idea that the entry, the barrier to entry's nearly impossible for a non game due to the complexity of controllers intricacy of gameplay, an expensive hardware and software steep learning curve. I don't think that that as a silo quote is wrong in in the sense that gaming can get incredibly expensive and complex on the far end of the spectrum. But the idea that the Intelevision Emeco is our answer to this gaping hole that we see in the industry. Is almost laughable to me because that's what mobile gaming is doing is filling that hole on. That's my mobile gaming has become so incredibly popular, incredibly lucrative in all markets around the world. If you wanna have a way to answer the expense and the difficulty of consular PC gaming just use the device that you already own to make some calls on that has tons of free to play options on it. And all you do is literally tap the screen. Like how difficult is that? And to assume that the game the intricacy of gameplay is too difficult is just assuming that the mass people out there that aren't gamers are just stupid and we'll be able to figure it out like really come on dude. Yeah, it's since there's so much weird stuff going on with these retro companies in Tari and every else trying to make these weird little councils and get back into it worth thinking. And I feel like it's to your point. The television Meco is our answer this gaping hole. There's this isn't a gaping hole if their PR people had just said Yotam e don't say anything. We're just gonna launch as an ode to retro games as nostalgia as an option to like relive the glory days and make a play in that direction. I think we would be having a completely different conversation right now because I think there's nothing wrong with saying, hey, in television has a very unique place in the history of the video game industry, and that there's a lot of people out there that have great memories playing in television when they were younger and wanna. Maybe bring those experiences to another generation of gamers. And I think there's nothing wrong with that angle. But this idea that these old ask games are gonna. Gonna be bringing non gamers into the fold with traditional gamers is kind of ridiculous. And why on earth would you pitch something where you use a smartphone app on your IRS devised to sync up to this box when I can just play a game on my. CMO and you don't need to buy more controllers. You can use the control as you already having your house that have probably offense better games than this thing has. Well, maybe I don't need to buy this thing at all. I mean, that's the other thing for me is like, okay, cool. One hundred forty nine one hundred seventy nine dollars. When you can get a PlayStation four, slim or an Xbox One s on sale. But for between two and three hundred dollars. My whole thing is one one fifty, right? You're you're halfway to intend to switch. Right. And I feel that even I know plenty of people who've seen their kids in intended switches and ball thrown intended switches. Right? There were also are against the fact of cool. Yeah. This thing's going to be simple at a glance to understand and there's going to be cheaper games on it. But like are you with the library of the switches endless library of amazing games to go out and take a chance on this thing that is reminiscent of a remnant of the television used to know a long time ago. Madge ind- it. We've remixed it. Keep in mind, latest gentleman. We're still talking about coming out in two years. This isn't like in imminent thing. This is also when you say, hey, we're trying to bring back the television brand with his console, and we're gonna do it in October of twenty twenty that Greg is like, we're not gonna see this thing that's not gonna happen, but I, I don't know. I wish well, I'm not trying to stop them or anything. It's just like what a weird campaign to come out and take the shot across the bow of, okay. Okay. Like I don't know who's who I don't. I don't know, Jared, petty excited about this MS Daming. Yeah. But like I said, there's nothing wrong with being excited about it in that scope. Rienscher are looking at it as an ode to retro gaming cloudy mountain fan here. Exactly. If you want to kind of, you know, I'd allies that era of gaming in your own personal way by buying this replica item, this reimagined replica, then that's great. I just think that all of this pop and circumstance around. Trying to disrupt the industry, fill gaping hole is quite frankly bullshit. Chem cell. I can't wait to see if on October tenth twenty twenty. In television. Meco comes out, but it's still so far away if I want to know what came to video game gramshop shops today. What I go, Andrea crank. You go to the official list of coming software across each never platform as listed by the kind of finding game show host each and every weekday do do do do do do do, yes. Andrea while you were just railing on that article, I got distracted at one point by your shirt. Is it goats? Ducks is in a FOX FOX FOX is, okay. I when I bought the shirt, I thought it was corgis and then the legs are too long. They're definitely okay. Okay. Out today, bass pro shops, the strike on switch Kabila's the hunt on switch. The fallout beta break it. Early test application period starts for Xbox One and XBox wonder PC's. Well, kind of funny. Dot com slash around PlayStation knows next week. Probably. I don't know. Is it, which is it? Let me know. My Xbox One version is download and ready for the Xbox One as well. Can't remember is their PC version at launchers at when injury you're on it. I'll be grew grid retro, enhance someplace station for Gwent. The Witcher card game is officially released. Just AS twenty nineteen is on PlayStation four XBox which mind, labyrinth VR dreams is on PlayStation. VR never out is on PS four, Nickelodeon car. Racers is on PS four. XBox switch. Paw patrol honor roll is on PlayStation four, Xbox One and switch the perils of baking ref- Ross. It is on PlayStation vita. It lives project high-rise, architects addition is on Xbox One, spin, tires mud runners on American. Spend tires? Mud runner. American wilds is on Xbox One. What do you got me on fallen? So it's Xbox One, but they have a limited window which you can play with seven PM eastern time till eleven pm eastern time today. We don't have the sessions for the rest of the week. It's comes out for PS four PC next week, judger thrown breaker. The Witcher tales is on PC and then wind. James comes in intendo switch a coup, Greg. You came in and interesting, Tom anisia microphone in. Have you played Nickelodeon kart racer that's out today? Oh, yeah. Been playing quite a bit. Actually. A lot of it goes Michelangelo Bob and planning. Hey, Arnold who? Okay. How is it? Goes a way dumbed down and easier. Mario Kart? Okay. Everything they would fuck you up in Mario Kart shirts? The sand in Mario Kart slows you down. This is like their version kind of speed you up, that kind of gets the slightest boot. So get you back in the conversation. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Would you recommend it though? I heard Tim was like, it's not good. It's kind of I wouldn't recommend you, but visually alike to just to go through the different levels share second. Mario Kart slot of fun to see bows low level. And yeah. Okay, thanks. New dates for you to senders, the downhill biking game from rage screw in, and no more robots will become that little bit trickier. Next week. That's what they wrote. When the trigger street update adds a whole host of special tricks. You can pull off in boost your combo. That's Tober nineteenth on PC and XBox. What day is it so twenty-third where the hell that new story come from? Why did I read it? Got to storm boy, the game and adaptation of the novella exploring the friendship between the child and his pelican sewers. Xbox One switch PS four, MAC Iowa's, Android, November twenty, two thousand eighteen and then rogue legacy and full full metal, furry fury's come switch ports come out on November six. 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Do you think this is because they're holding their cards close to their chest, or is it that there isn't much to show what would they have show to blow you away? Love everything you do. Thanks. Daniel McSherry from Texas. Daniel mic g from Texas. So quieting drew. Probably because this event is not nothing more than a fan celebration event of games and hardware that's already been released. This isn't something like we would expect from PlayStation experience where there's a big media showcase. They are doing something, but so far what I'm saying is the expectation. Not that it's going to be a bunch of big announcements, right? Because Microsoft has not really done that. Historically, obviously, the last off cycle major press briefing. They did that wasn't aligned with a major trade show was when they announced the Xbox One, at least if I'm wrong about that, please right into dot com. Slash you're wrong. There's a glaring thing that I'm missing there. And so I don't have any expectation that we're going to get some kind of crazy revelation here, like gears of war release date or like a new halo trailer. Said it was low. We talked on the show where the newest halo will not make an appearance there. They confirm it already. Well, there you go. Yeah, so yeah, I'm just going back to what it was because it was what give us an official crackdown release date. Doubtful though. Right? The twenty second isn't that one of the twenty sites? February twenty nineteen last I checked. It's just February. Interesting. Okay, so I don't. I don't know. That's why you haven't seen anything also because generally as members of the press when XBox or Microsoft is doing something, they Email us, they let us know, hey, we have this news coming up. Sometimes it's under embargo, sometimes it's not so that we can prepare coverage, and I have heard nothing reading from a Kevin's post over on gamespot when I won Marsov. So hosting the big XBox later this fall during late episode of inside XBox, the company announced a new fan of dubbed echo eighteen a quote, global celebration of all things. XBox scheduled to take place in Mexico City on November tenth through the eleventh Microsoft hasn't asked me details about what fans can expect from Mexico. Oh, eighteen yet. But the publish says, it will feature the quote largest live inside XBox episode ever. The event will broadcast online and we'll provide news. I looks and surprises, although publisher in delve into what the specifics could be inside XBox so far has not dropped any major news. Leases though. Like if you look at the episodes that they've released so far, it's been a little bit here a little bit here, but nothing. Shattering. We all know historically, Tim was wrong about that. There was a bet for awhile. He's like, it's huge and he was wrong because teams always wrong and should be verified. And even say that inside XBox is on par with an antenna direct as far as news worthiness. I think it's more on par with core that I think that's what they were going. I don't think they were going, oh, man, never forget core back them on Veronica Belmont. Veronica Belmont Namie, no core. Was it. It's a fan video fan magazine, right? And that's what I think inside XBox has been like so far. I do think today thing, why are they being quiet about it? I think they want expectations to be set correctly. I would even say like saying the largest inside XBox live ever like ride that people started run away and like we have it blocked out on the calendar for coming. Let's stream it that Saturday morning. Let's watch a and do reacts to it. I'm not expecting here. It is guys gears released. This is what's happening, but I do expect announcements out of it. I do think it's going to be a fun. Hey, it's a global celebration of XBox. So here's major Nelson. Here's Phil and here's Jeff Rubenstein. And let's talk about what's happening. It's also a little head-scratching why they were doing a major fan engagement in Mexico City. Obviously, XBox has great steak as far as market share in central and South America compared to their worldwide presence. So that makes sense. But if you're going to do this gigantic fan fest, why wouldn't you do it in your home. Entry. Know what I mean Mexico's right there. Yeah, but it's similar, Seattle's, even coal, North America. It's all. I know nothing against Mexico. I think Mexico City sounds like a fun place to do it, but it doesn't sound like a traditional place who you would do present for an English speaking audience in particular. And that's what traditionally does. I've never seen them do a major press conference in any other language besides English. One of the fact that they're doing something different though is at least interesting. There's a new wrinkle to it. It's not just, hey, we're gonna Anaheim? All right. We're back Mannheim convention center. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's whatever. But yes, the fact that as presser media influences anybody that's going. Zero people. I know whether they are streamers YouTubers or contrition press. I don't know a single person that's going to be interesting. It does sound like a really big fan party, but I don't know what that versus that versus a PS ex. I'm not sure what you're getting, but it's always exciting because then you don't, you know, there's only one way to find out tune in San number one gains journalist, Andy Cortes. Oh my gosh, we do right. He's not even at work today. Fucking. Josh, from Maryland writes in the kind of funny dot com slash KF GD and says, but studios published quote a note to our fans yesterday. And I was wondering y'all's take on it was, is it just as trying to get ahead of any backlash to the inevitable bugs that come with launching a brand new online platform? Or is there something more to the letter? Thanks for all you do, Josh. I put out a section of injury, Rene because they put out a giant. They did put a big letter yesterday being basically, we've launched games a four when we launched the franchise this, this is the first time it's this is the next step. This is the fallout and what we're doing here. This two paragraphs. I think that are what Josh's referencing usually after years of development, we finally finish released the game and take a break with seventy six. We feel we have not finished, but reached a starting line where all new work begins. We all know with the scale of our games and the systems, we let you use that unforeseen bugs and issues always come up given what we're doing with seventy six. We know we're opening everyone up to all new spectacular issues. None of us have encountered somewhere aware of such as areas where performance these improve with lots of players. Others we surely don't. We need your help, finding them and advice on what what's important to fix will dress all of it. Now in after launch, what's your take away from this letter they put up my takeaway is they're trying to manage expectations. The game is probably more broken than the average Bethesda game at which is saying something which is definitely. It's a, it's a running joke, how many bugs, but those games have right. You can just go to YouTube and look for competitions, but I think it's smart of them to kind of get ahead of it and say, listen, like if you're a longtime follow fan, we just want you to know this is how it's going to go, and it's going to be different different for us and it's different for you. We hope you trust us and join us on that journey, and I think a smart of them to do that. Yeah. I mean, it's not, you know, it's not tongue in cheek and it's not just joke in a wink that they they, you know, they spell out followed e right break it early tests like application. They seem like a good job at the time, but it's real like, Yep, we, there's been eligible online, but this is the first fall game that's multi player, and it's totally different in the cards and this and the other end, like, yeah, we don't know when you can test any game for a bunch of for hours and hours and hours. But when it gets out into hundreds, thousands, potentially millions of hands and systems. And online. That's when you really find out what's going on. So like their beta is is a is a real beta in very innovative specific way of, yes, you're going to break this game. That's why it's in the time you are going to break this game, right? But the concerning part, I think about all of this is something that was brought up during e-3 when they announced this, is that man, this beta going live awfully close to win this game number teens number fourteen, I think. So let me double check the released in. That's the thing of is it a Wednesday? What's beta test, right? Like the fourteenth. That's why I nailed it. That's why I think they dropped them both in the title here, right that this is more than just like a beta like, hey, how's it work in like, okay, this is what the game is. This isn't a demo. It's all wrapped up in one of you guys got to be tip of the sword to figure out what breaks for everybody and how it doesn't work so that when we get it out to more people, we have those basic fixes included, let alone the stuff. We're going to see as it exponentially increases the server load. D think there is room for them to push back this launch if it breaks catastrophically. I mean, if if it's a catastrophic breakdown, I think they, it doesn't matter if there's room they have to. You can't. I mean in this day and age, even though you're says that you can release a game. That's all cards on the table, right? Fall seventy. Six is gonna come out on November fourteenth and have really bad bugs in it. Right. Oh, it's going to have like a fifty gigabyte day one patch. Exactly. And even if it's well, probably I gonna say, let's be honest. It's going to have a bowl, it's going to have those and it's going to chase away a lot of people. It's going to embolden a hardcore group to stick it out and seek it better and better and better, and then months down the line with the Bethesda and fallout name. It's going to have that update where people are like, oh man, it works great now, and it's got a whole bunch of content. We really need to go play and all these things. Right. We've seen this with big IP online games before we'll see it again. I think as long as it hit that. Quota that it can come out and be a fun experience for the people who wanna stick through it. It'll be fine, especially considering how many people in this goes back to the shot at the tomb raider stuff, right? Go out and buy the game and don't play it right away. Somebody who are gonna buy this, but still be caught up in red dead. Still be caught up in assassin still be getting ready for smash brothers and, oh, it's broken out, put it on l. put on the shelf and wait for it to get better and get there eventually is long, but I feel like if you come out and it's catastrophic, like holy shit, you took our money and gave us a game that doesn't even work. That's when you can't come back from that as easily. Let's hope that Todd won't let us stay. I'm interested tat. We were talking about on the show yesterday, like after more the Bethesda part or the follow party in talking to people on Twitter about it and seeing like actually taking the time ago through previews and videos and stuff. I was like, all right. I'm still like, is this a game for me? The single payer fall fan, but people say it is. I want to give it a shot for sure. But if I turn it on, it's just garbage pile, get David. We'll know soon enough, I guess. Oh, Nick from Tampa, Florida rights into kinda funny dot com. Slash KF GD following up on yesterday's question where I was talking about shadow of the tomb, raider the review bombs in civic. I heard the civic consumer is responsible for Nick writes in and says, greetings, reggae, Andrea, I'm writing in regarding yesterday's discussion of the shadow the tomb raider review bomb. In the question that was posed regarding whether the onus being on the consumer is a privileged point of view, although I don't one hundred percent agree with. I'm sorry, the although I don't one hundred percent agree that an informed consumer Kane and should be able to predict when a game prince or any piece of media for that matter will be marked down. I do agree that it is the consumer's responsibility of when to purchase a game and at what price. There are many upcoming games that I want on release. I e red dead redemption to the ABA three switch, poke among, let's go, etc. That I know I won't be able to afford it full price all at once. So I'll be waiting to see if any black Friday sales pop up for any of these titles. I think that simply being irresponsible consumer and knowing my spending limits on the other hand, paying the full sixty dollars for a game upon release means you have had more time with the game a and have been able to take part in the conversation for that game, something that those who wait for the sale simply will not have. To all the people complaining. They paid full price for shadow of the tomb raider, whereas the people who buy during the sale din it be, oh, I personally think that argument falls flat given that they probably already completed the campaign by the time, new new consumers are able to jump in. So the response, but thank you for reading and thanks for the entire crew for doing what you do, Nick from Tampa. Florida. Listening to this yesterday was really frustrating for me not only as a fan of tomb raider end specifically shadow of the tomb raider, but also just as idea of consumer is getting to this super entitled place when it comes to buying works of art, it's a little bit different. I think when you compare objects to two pieces of media, you know, I, I don't think about buying a movie ticket and expecting a month later that being pissed off at the movies cheaper. Sure, right. Like, I mean, obviously the ticket price is going to go down the guts, just the way that it works and if it's going to be even cheaper, if you wait to rent it on digital or by, you know, the DVD I just like, I don't. I don't understand why people have such a problem paying for things that they consume. And it seems like it's it's a complaint much more in video games than it is in other art forms and other types of media. And I just I'm having trouble understanding that we got. I got into this argument with somebody online about when a argue online the worst when we were going back and forth about micro transactions in Hassans creed and people getting upset about pain for things. I'm like, why do you guys have such a hesitancy to pay for things like somebody made the thing they're asking you to pay for it? And you can either choose to say, yes, I wanna pay for the thing or say, no, I don't wanna pay for the thing. You know. Like I understand like the kind of like all rats like it's fifteen dollars cheaper. If I just waited forty five days or thirty days and it's like, yeah, sometimes that's just the way it is. But you got to be an early adopter being an early adopter means you pay more. And I think that that game was worth the price. But if you didn't think it was worth the price in just going to be a subjective. Of difference. But I, I'm frustrated that people are always wanting more for less, and I think that frustration stems from being an online content creator for so many years and always getting shit because people want stuff for free, but it's not free to make it. You're right, like people that watch you two content or watch a twitch streamer and want everything for free and don't want ever pay for anything, but then just expect the content creator to keep churning out continent, pumping out stuff. Same rate, if it's like none of this is free with money come from somewhere and hopefully we as creators, whether you make video games, whether you make movies, you make digital videos on YouTube, you hope that the people who are consuming your content or consuming because they like it. And if they like it, they'll be willing to pay for it that right there. The last couple sentences is what my problem was is show the tomb raider thing right? Where even nNcholas? Oh, you wanna. Part of the conversation? I I, I don't think there was that much conversation around shadow the tomb raider sadly as an is somebody who's really enjoyed the first two in this one came at an inopportune time. I played it without the day when patch yada steamrolled. Unfortunately, it's the fact that if you cared about that conversation, aren't you a hardcore tomb raider fan at which point you got to be in the conversation with your raider friends, and then you contributed to square seeing a bottom line that was like good or bad. Hey, this is how many people care about humor. I'm glad I was there to support my thing sonata BI weeks later a month later upset that it's cheaper trying to get more people in the door to boost up online to ensure you continue to get Camilla letting tin lead to raiders. I, it's just a weird thing of like where if you didn't care about the story in the conversation, why did you buy on when you should have been able see there'd be cheaper, let alone it's black Friday, let alone. I think the answer to this is that people like to bitch online on everything just because they want to bitch about something. What's the easiest thing? Right? If you're angry. About something you fire off the tweet, and then you've you've said a piece something where you know somebody's gonna see that and they'll understand matters. Yeah, that's why I stopped doing it because I don't want to put that out there. I don't want to, you know, I want to with the exception of airlines. Sometimes somebody autumn. You know what I mean? You got to get out there and do it. But yeah, it's, I mean, it's all, and it's also totally, you know what we talk about. You know, the vocal minority the squeaky wheel. You know what I mean? Like I, I don't think the majority of people who bought raider at full price or not pissed about this. It's a very, it was a great game. Played enough of it. I need to get back to it. Maybe once you finish it, we can have a discussion about it how it is I have to review. I have to. I haven't played like thirty hours of it. I understand. I understand Emily right saying the kind of funny dot com slash KFI GED and she gets the final question of the day. She says, Hello, Greg, you, thanks for the amazing content and I love it. When the two of you host together best combo Emily. Emily, thank you. My question is related to our favorite game at the moment. Assassin's creed, odyssey on jeans, GameCube school. There was a rich debate on leveling on level scaling video games. I want to hear your thoughts on the matter. Well, I love reaching a high level and then going back to my origin town to beat the crap out of every everyone at a much lower level than me. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed cons- constantly battling enemies around the same level as me. How did you enjoy or not enjoy level scaling in? Do you think this should be the new standard with open world RPG's at first not gonna lie? I was really annoyed. I was really annoyed that I look back at Caphalonia and I was like, why is it the same levels? I am supposed to be low so I can go back, hang thirty. So it started out being annoyed. And then once I realized that I didn't have any trouble going after most enemy types of the same levels meals like, oh, yeah, like I'm obviously progressing. In my skill, I'm unlocking new abilities. I'm becoming more powerful. I don't need to have a bunch of enemies that are substantially lower levels. I me that being said, she's got a point here saying, going back to my origin town, touted the crap out of everyone has a certain, you know, they're so weird to it or something like that was fun about that and older RPG's. Going back to something where now you're max level and they're still at level five and your killing one blow. But for as big as asan's creed odyssey is that. That would get so boring. Going back to Ireland after island cloudy, people out even now being a head of them. You get such an advantage in, like you're talking about all the skills you've unlocked like it's I, I think the. Battle pace in what you're locking in. That whole combat system is such a work of art in terms of being engaging in having me feel powerful and having me make active decisions of Michael running there. I'm gonna take that guy shield, throw it on him. Do this. I mean, build up this use my power move like I love that and I wouldn't want it to be that I walk in just a reside well and the way that they've done loot in gear in that system or in this game makes it so that you want to be dealing with enemies that are at or really are above your level so that your constantly searching for better and better loot in that you can't get better loot. If you're going back to places and it's consistently low level, I think the size of assassin's creed odyssey makes it so that if they didn't have this level scaling, there'd be wide chunks of the game that would be rendered, certainly kinda useless grind. Everything out. I would have no reason to go back. I actually really smart of them to institute on paper like I could see it being annoying, whatever. But the way it's using assassin's creed, if we're time at one example in the example zest scrape, I think it's awesome and I, it never annoyed me. I d I when Damon tweeted about it that he'd hated it. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess that's happening. I never gave it to thoughts, but it was that idea. I remember at first, but I don't hate it anymore. Look at you. You came around. I came around lays and gentlemen, it's time to squad up. Accept that input one in here because nobody had a good one. Nobody squad today. Think about what you've done stand. Let's talk about a bad PSN name if you didn't know Shuhei Yoshida no longer hates. You allow you to change your PlayStation network named soon. There's an Asterix. It may ruin everything, but we'll find out soon. Thanks to the real heroes. The beta testers of the new firm where to send off bad BSN names, people writing in with bad PSA names. We read them here and then we have fun dot com eighty Henry from Sydney right saying it says, so glad. Shuhei doesn't hate me anymore because my PS and ideas tubby dash mic flabby. Toby mix lovey. That's why. Great. That's right. I was one of them big, beautiful fat kids when I made this name back in fifth grade now almost twenty and I live with the shame of this self deprecating Monica. Can't wait to be free from it. Preys Shuhei are benevolent God tubby dash mic, fluffy. It is a great name, but if it's got that like adolescents, like all your all your like a motion only I understand there's a lot of baggage to it. Yeah. Tummy mcabe. That is a good name should have committed to even Kevin's laughing at it. If you're watching the show live on twitch, dot TV, slash kind of funny games. We have a special job for you. Go to kinda funny dot com slash you're, you're on. Yes, right. I've been up since five in the morning based on record where jen's mom was flying back the Montreal today. So we drove airport in a nice play a lot of Ghostbusters world. Now what are we get wrong? Ted day Alby says, just a quick correction that she doesn't actually hate us guys. True injury. You turned against me injury. Thank you for the shirt compliment techy gamers. A really good way. It's eye catching because it's it doesn't. It's like not. I'm not gonna, say a fat FOX. It's just like a not in great shape FOX. So it's very much like counts, like if Portillo was a FOX. Yeah, but the legs are longer. I know. I'm more for short. Gavin says they don't have exact sources here, but the steam was added because kids were focusing too much on stem and we're losing art skills which include communications, the was added to make sure stem field help kids become more rove around individuals. I appreciate that Gavin, but I think a lot of that also has to do with systematic defunding of arts programs in public education across the United States, which is a whole nother issue. We're not gonna get into. Yes. A lot of kids to Kevin. Your brother was in school? He's them? Yeah. I mean, they got ditch the, are they gotta teach these kids math. I mean, you have to teach the math. You absolutely need to teach them art too. But at this point I think math is do they still have shop class their kids using sauce? Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have shop class. We did. Yeah. Please. We were private school shirts and ties you get when you get a bus on their targets club in its final destination. This date me a little bit, but I distinctly remember being in shop class during the J. Simpson trial, no. What's what's. Great school. Yes. Okay. Point that I shop class, I jumped wasn't school grade school. It was like more middle school. Okay. Middle school definition on age. What part of the country you're in? Some people do it at certain grade levels. Anyway, somebody rave Lord night disagreeing with me about stem says that they don't like art and that stem help them be creative, artistic. Okay. Okay. But like you do math. There's a lot of kids can't do math where route reason stem was created was to help foster an interest in those career fields for kids once they actually graduate and get out into the workforce, which they are still dramatically under represented. If you look at all of the job micro is a really great proponent for this about how you look at. Yesterday jobs micro, but how you look at all of the field, particularly in trades and guilds and how they are like begging people to take career paths in those fields because every every kid wants to get communications degree. Let me everybody. There's no room at the twitch stream hotel. All right. It's over Kobe, air conditioner, repairman or the marine biologist Stanley lot more money in those. That's. Oh, yes, required reading. Suzanne fair says not a, you're wrong, but I in Trier publish an article. We're going to mention it. Thirty minutes, schreier publishers crunch at rockstar article. We saw reading through it. It's a good read. A lot of interesting tidbits in a lot of like, shake your head of things, but it wasn't like rope report, at least at first thing, required reading. Everybody read it today. Jas Trier's rockstar crunch article. Nestle crunch article under his just twenty nineteen is also on we and we you. Yes, the original we and also released on XBox sixty October twenty six. Maybe that is impressive. Ubisoft clearly selling enough units to keep. All right. Oh, yes. Malcontent Ronin. By the way, it's easy to forget. Paris games week starts Friday or speculating on whether Sony showing something with canceling PS actually are not showing anything at Paris canes weeks forty to my knowledge. It seems very quiet. This get, they would have announced. Showing every year that they've showed a pair of games week, they've made a big blog presentation about it. So I have to assume that they are not doing anything there. Oh, Parker. Petroff says XBox Mexico stated the crackdown three is supposed to be playable Exo rule, Terry crews be there. The world. Keelan says that Phil Spencer announced the mouse and keyboard support go mainstream. Starting at the expo eighteen event. True. Don't like most keyboard. I'm curious. And maybe one of the best friends can write in. If you are playing on console, if you have an Xbox One or an Xbox One x or an s. whatever you love it. Why would you want keyboard a mouse support. What would instead of just having a piece just plain on PC. I mean, obviously there's a market for it because there's plenty of people that are excited about it, but like I would love some more new. More interesting, like some justification about why you're excited about getting keyboard mouse support on console without getting the benefit of all of the power of PC gaming, mouse and keyboard that little thing. Right. Like more affordable? It has offensive. Good answer. Yeah, Kevin's got them. It's easier. You don't have to also. Well, Evers didn't an easier depending on where you're set up his councils traditionally in front of couch, but like putting together a console is what I'm saying. Like that's hardened buying an XBox expo true. Put together. Simple. Is that the simple answer cheaper point play, right? Yeah. And then go out there and be like, is this graphics quarter this graphics card? And then I'll fire wire USB, three point hours. The new use three point. All right. Now that you hate PC wine need four mouse clicks or five. Until they're here the reason why people are excited. So let us know kind of dot com slash cave TD. Alright, right. Keelan also says the first game to use mouse and keyboard is war frame. Somebody else mentioning crackdown will be playable. Martin, I appreciate that you're writing a prediction, but that's not what you're wrong as four. That's kinda funny dot com. Slash cave GD is four injuries hosting the show. She leaned the show tomorrow so you can put in all things Rangers. She'll read them. I am hosting the show tomorrow with a friend of the show, Dave. Yeah, stack up. No, that's right. Jack, I'm not reading Thursday's Major Friday. It's tomb in eight stran-. Okay, that's it. 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Andrea Rene Returns - Kinda Funny Games Daily 03.30.20

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Andrea Rene Returns - Kinda Funny Games Daily 03.30.20

"What's up everybody? Welcome to kind of games. Daily for Monday March thirtieth twenty twenty. I'm one of your host Greg Miller alongside for the first time in forever the busiest lady in the Business Andrea A. Wow Evans clapping at home. Which he hasn't done for any of the we have cool friends so that is a big number there for me. I missed you guys so much. We missed you to Andrew. How you been? How long have you been gone to? I'm semi last show was in September where I move. I think it was September tenth or September eleventh. Gotcha yeah it's crazy right because I don't know about you. Time is definitely lost all meaning in two thousand twenty one hundred percent. Can you believe it? It still March Greg. I cannot large at all I was watching. You Know Tomas Remedy put up about I. I am doing my dice expense reports in that feels like a lifetime ago and I was like Holy Shit. The dice was last month. Not only last month like not even yet like if you it's just like we don't even know what's going on. I just can't keep up with anymore now. I'm with you. I was also going through some some photos and things and I saw this stuff from CBS. And that even feels further ago but it wasn't the last couple of months ago we're still Q. One technically outrageous. How's everything going with? What's good everything is going great as you could see. We've got our brand new studio up and running. Example was beautiful a mask or penal joint. Right yes go bunn production shout out to Matt and Hannah for being Pentastar to work with. I'm so it's been going awesome and Britney and I launched a brand new show which you can see behind me. What's Good Games live? Is our new live show with this going to be right after a cave? Gd actually we were thinking about What time did we do the show and I was like you know? We definitely don't want to cross over with td so eleven am on. Mondays is when we're going to be doing that. Show because we've always wanted the ability to address the news that we miss on Thursday and Friday specifically our show we tape Wednesday nights usually and then we post Friday morning. So there's always breaking news that happens before we are able to publish that. We never get to in the by the time it gets up the next week. Kind of feels like it's old news. And so this something. We'd been kind of you know stewing on for a while and this work from home situation felt like the right time the right time to give people more content right. Yeah exactly every Monday eleven. Am Pacific Time going to be late today. Twitch DOT TV Slash Games? Yes exactly. That will be late today but hopefully if people haven't checked it out they can and then if for some reason. People aren't keeping abreast of the situation. I heard the team expanded. Oh yes we did so I packs east this year we announced that Riyadh Emanuel has joined. What's in part time. Which is very exciting. So obviously lots of camps know about Riana new and they are just wonderful people. Riana has been to amazing part of the. What's good Games community really since we launched and just getting to know her over the years of WG has been phenomenal and she approached me last year and was like. Hey I want to do more with less good. Like what can we do together? And I was like actually we might finally be in a position where we can you know? Hire someone part time and so we kind of talked about what she would be interested in and came up with a plan and we started working with her in March this year. So Great. Great time ringer onto just goes to hell is. She's she's so great and we love that she's going to be on the podcast. Once a month and more of her schedule allow she. Of course like steamer has a girl job and she just has been such a joy because she complements the type of games that we all like so she not only plays some of the more combat shooter. Focus Games that I really enjoy. But she also plays some games that I don't really spend any time in it makes a really nice compliment to the kind of expertise that we bring to the table. That's awesome I'm so proud. I'm glad you guys were killed. I thank you so much Greg but enough about that today. We're GONNA TALK ABOUT MARIO. Having a hell of a twenty twenty resonable three reviews being out and final fantasy. Seven might be coming to you early because this is kind of funny games daily each and every weekday a variety of platforms. We run you through the video. Game News lead. Know about if you like that. Be Part of the show patriots dot com slash. Kinda Funny Games. Yuki was your questions. Comments concerns the squad up requested everything else under the video game son. Of course there you can get the show ad free and the exclusive po show but if you have no bucks toss away. It's no big deal. You can go to twitter dot TV slash kind of funny games in Watch. 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Your PC clan specifically was like yo we need some more players sponsorship so good. It's so brilliant. Uh today were brought to you by. What's Good Games live? But I'll tell you about that later for now. Let's begin the show with what is and forever will be. The Roper report. Did six items. Are you crying or laughing? Acre doesn't have a mouthful of breakfast to a bacon. Dan For why we went big. I like them. I appreciate that a lot Number one on the rope report Nintendo switches twenty twenty. Looks like it's going to be dominated by Mario. This is Tom Phillips. Over at Euro. Gamer Nintendo switches. I party lineup for the rest of twenty twenty. We'll be dominated by Mario Games old and new to coincide with the original Super Mario Brothers thirty fifth anniversary. That's according to European resources with knowledge of Nintendo's upcoming plans who have corroborated report posted by vg. See I the report states. Nintendo released quote most of Super Mario thirty-five year back catalog this year remastered for Nintendo switch. There's no detail on which games this includes but the article includes a banner image of Mario Galaxy perhaps intended to suggest the we classic as one of these Games euro game resources have indicated that Mario Galaxy is indeed one of the game's being ready for a remastered alongside a couple of three D. Mario favorites update. Gazoo is now gonNA firm visa as Super Mario Sixty four and Mario Sunshine which Euro Gamer can corroborate. Many earlier. Mario Games are already available ONS. Which via the Council Online Snes APPS second the report states several other Mario titles will release in twenty twenty including a new paper. Mario you're a gamer sources. Have confirmed a new paper. Mari was in the works. Along with a deluxe edition of Super Mario Three D world which will include an array of new levels. This long rumored we import is one of a couple of first party. Were First Party Games from Nintendo's previous causal currently do for a new lease on life in twenty twenty when contacted for this story Nintendo gave Euro gamers traditional response? That did you did did not comment on rumor or speculation Andrea Rene. What is your reaction? I'm super excited about this. Obviously we knew that Nintendo was going to be remastering some of its legacy library for Nintendo switch. Like that was going to happen. They do it for pretty much every platform they have. But I think that this comes at a great time because we know that their release schedules probably not going to be at least the same cadence as it would be in a normal year because it's happening globally with cove in nineteen. But I think that this is a really good set of like comfort game. Titles that people will really love gravitate towards and I'm going to be buying them one more day exactly right place sunshine again for sure some trying to game I loved on the. We haven't played since then so to get back to that superstock for however our opinions barely matter on this because you know we work with him motherfucking gettys. Who of course is a huge Mario Fan? I reached out to get a quote from Tim and this is what he wrote. And it starts with Tim Voice. So I'm sorry gardeners let's fucking go. This is ten out of ten. Tim gettys gatorade get hype decade of Dreams Material? Ladies and gentlemen. I will play every release of Super Mario Sixty four till the day. I die but Mario. Sunshine and galaxy are way past overdue for supplies throughs. I'm going to assume galaxy to was also part of the somehow. My biggest questions with these are how are they released piecemeal in misspelled piecemeal in some sort of more. Super Mario all stars to and more importantly what does remastered meet on. Just uprise ports. Do we finally get reo sixty four and wide-screen. Are they all redone? The Mario Odyssey engine real quick. Hey Injury I miss you moving on after almost two decades of Nintendo refusing to just do a superpower or whatever paper. Fan wants if this new paper. Mario isn't the thousand year door style. So help me got honestly though the best thing about all of this is that it criminally underplayed super. Mario Three D world will finally get the respect. It deserves with new levels. Jesus talk about a game that will benefit for being on the switch. But will we ever get a Tutti Mario with an actual creative and fresh art style in finally make the new Super Mario Brothers style old time will tell bt Dubs? Anyone saying that this is too much. Mario find some magic in your heart. The only thing that's kind of the only thing that kind of bums me out is that these leaks robbed us of all the melting down during utterly relentless Mario Direct. I guess Jason Schreier friends really wanted to save some laptops. I don't understand anyways. I would trade all this for a Super Mario Sixty four remake. That looks like the nineties is fuck. Og Concept Art and then he put some links that cat. If you want to toss it in Millard be what you can get these moments right. Like time will tell and then he winks to the camera. Tim I miss you too. I can totally hear exactly how he would read the story if he was doing Cape. Gd with US right now. Of course of course Kevin is throwing up teams. Aren't right now to see some of this artwork. You wanted there there you go. Yeah more stuff. That's how it looked like Yeah so then. We actually have questions here. Andrea from horse listeners and viewers like you is gentlemen the five star man wrote into Patriots Dot com slash. Kinda funny just like you can't and says hey. Kf GD crew with the reports hitting about Mario Games being remastered and new games being worked on. What did you think? The original release plane would've been seeming. Kovin has had an effect on schedule remastered coming earlier this year and then maybe a new game for holiday or is that too soon. Also do you think the new game will be an odyssey sequel a whole new Mario Ip? Maybe we'll finally get his updated art style. I WANNA bring the. She'd whisper before reading answering injury because his or their question applies as well. If this turns out to be true and we do get remixed. Remastered just playing re-releasing. Mario Games like galaxy sunshine etc. Do you think there will be piecemeal order? You think they'll bundle like Super Mario all stars. Let's start there Andrea when you see this and we're talking about this release schedule. Five Star. Man's talk you brought up to right of like comfort food in this time. Twenty twenty being a weird spot for Nintendo. Do you see this being one game or do you see these being spread out. That's actually a really interesting idea. I mean my gut would say spread out because sell them all individually. You make more money than you allow people to kind of pick which ones they want making bundle isn't necessarily a bad idea either. Making it like Mario Legacy collection could because then you make it one price point and then everybody buys it no matter what because they want that one game in the collection and then they just get everything else included go either way but I mean I really WanNa see them make Super Mario Galaxy Three Super Mario Odyssey to sure sure? Yeah I can see it both ways and I think it is a situation where you can't your cake and eat it too where I think you could put a Super Mario all stars to or whatever you WANNA call it right and Super Mario all stars switch and having be one bundle of all the Games and then digitally you could sell them all piecemeal as well but as we're talking about for Nintendo the big Cry from the fan base so far this year in Twenty Twenty S. We don't know what they're doing. What does first party Nintendo for switch look like this year in so if Zelda to if metro it if all these games that we do know are in. The works aren't ready. I think doing this piecemeal spacing them out through the year leading up to the new paper Mario. If that is the new the one new Mario Game You have. That's what would make sense to me. I don't think you WanNa blow your Wad who early and put all these amazing games right galaxy. Sixty four sunshine putting them into in Duluth Super Mario world putting all those into one collection is awesome and obviously it would be good intend to move. They sold that at sixty bucks. However I think Ya Number One business wise. You could make money in then number two. You could make a bigger event if hey for this even no. I'M NOT GONNA math. What five month period? Maybe a five month period. We're GONNA have a new mar more new. Mario game every month leading up to a brand brand new Mario game that can be cooling rick. Great Way to celebrate the Thirtieth Anniversary. I agree it would be cool but it'd be very untraditional for Nintendo. They've never done a release like that before and I wouldn't imagine that they would do something dramatically different from a marketing perspective. Right now But I I do think that releasing at least one or two of these titles you know ahead of the fall would be great if we could get something like in. May in June or July around that time frame to kind of titus over until later the holiday that would be awesome. I think that it's great looking at more of their three D. FOCUS. Mario titles for switch because we all know that those two D Games are classic but they've been released on virtually everything that went out and I think that they also want to bolster their Nintendo online subscription service. And a great way to do that. Say Hey let's instead of releasing this for a set price point say oh you can only buy it or you can only download it if you get an intendo online subscription. Much like the DIPA Tetris. Ninety nine when it first came out so I don't I mean I don't know I mean speculation. We can speculate. Oh we want. I'm just glad that this is hopefully happening. That's bigger thing to I. Hope it's real. It sounds so great and it sounds awesome. I would love to galaxy again and I would love to see. I've played sixty four sixty four. I skip the DS Earth radius remake. So getting that back seeing those obviously hate on sunshine all the time. But that's just because I was disappointed with at the time I'd love to play it again and see how it holds up More Mario generals great idea agree with both what Tim said. And then the excitement over having Super Mario Three D world which wasn't game. I really did enjoy but only really play during Aegean. Let's plays I don't. I never actually put money many hours in because at home. I hated my we you so much for us to turn it off. I mean I don't I don't blame you for hatred. It was just. It was just one of those periods of Nintendo's history that we all prefer to maybe not remember But I think that it's interesting kind of looking at some parts of the questions here of you know. Are we going to get something? Besides you know Mario and the holiday and I don't I don't think so. I think if Mario is going to be the franchise that Nintendo decides to go with for twenty twenty especially in a year. That's really important for them to hold their own against the brand new consoles coming from xbox and playstation they wanna go with their biggest gun and their biggest gun is definitely. Mario and we don't traditionally see Nintendo release multiple large franchise next to each other right. We're not GONNA get like Zelda and Mario like eating November. I mean it's possible that you know with animal crossing being right now that that's like there for the first year. Then second half is going to be Mario. I don't anticipate them saying. Oh you know what? Let's throw some metro in. Let's those in there that to me. Seems like you know not really a possible. What's interesting about it to the dilemma? Of what Mario Do you end on? Because I think you'd say oh. Well the brand new one but paper. Mario doesn't have the same cachet and or fan base of a regular. Mario and so a deluxe Super Mario Three D world like granted. It's a rerelease of a game of spin out forever but it does have levels and again it's coming from coming. From the we you which meant games got criminally underplayed in so you look at the success of Mario Kart. Eight deluxe. I don't think Nintendo's GonNa shy away from that. I think they were end on one. Maybe they do end on the Deluxe version of Martha World. This This amazing game. You can play multiplayer and have fun with and Mitt. You did play. Probably no but when you say end with what do you mean exactly? I mean there last one. I feel like they're building up to. What is the final one? They're putting out for the year. I think the re releases release in twenty twenty. Yes okay so I'm talking about in in this lineup of how. However they're putting them all out. I think you end with the biggest quotes. What what is the one that is going to be? Your Big Mario Holiday released like we were talking about. Like what is your big. Your final big. Mario fogging if it's not a new Mario game will. Yeah because I'm saying yeah exactly. I'm sorry I I can't see your face I. I thought you're asking a question I saw I saw now. You're you're kidding okay. Sorry no no. I was just trying to understand what you were referring to like. Yeah I mean that's an interesting idea hadn't really thought about and I'm just saying I think I think the one they'll make the bigger deal about even if there is a brand new from the ground up paper Mario. I think they'll make a bigger deal about Super Mario. Three D world deluxe a one hundred percent. That's what yeah. That's that's the point. I was driving towards. We're lost out here there. There's no there's no lighthouse for Andrea. Yes number two on the Roper report. The resident evil reviews are up. There is a round up here. I Kinda Fun Games daily for you. When I jotted down the metacritic it is at an eight point. Oh this was at eight fifty four am Pacific Time however. Let's start one of the top ones. I gave it a nine point. Lucy O'Brien the lion wrote as the credits roll on resident evil threes campaign. I immediately started playing over again. Not because I felt like I missed anything. The first time around. I was a festival as I was as festivities as developer. Capcom encouraged me to be but because my journey through raccoon city was so consistently packed with tens monster moments in breakneck paced fun and it was so challenging throughout. Its six odd hours that I wanted to jump in all over again with sharper skills and knowledge. My undying enthusiasm for it speaks volumes to the Polish seen in this remake and the finesse with which it manages to tread the tight rope between a confident modern horror in a total call back to the original resonable trilogy. Easy allies gave it. Eighty five Huber wrote and then said Re- resident evil three is a superb reimagining that complements last year's evil to by prioritizing for frantic action without compromising its horror roots. Jalen Carlos Emotional Journey is bolstered by threats that build their bond new convincing ways while nemesis remains one of the series most memorable creations more than a few surprises await veteran residents of racking city. Then we started. Go down a bit. Us Gamer gave it three point. Five out of five. Katie McCarthy says resident evil three finally repositions its place as not just a true sequel the resonable to but as a bridge to resonate four both in action and plot while it streamlines the formula of resonable to into something more linear. It's still the best way to dodge the raccoon city with Jill and Carlos even with Nemesis. Always on your tail and the occasional clumsiness. Here and there with a breezy runtime. Resonable three is well worth revisiting. Maybe just maybe not resident evil resistance. Which of course the multiplayer game bundle been that. Most people are not talking about because it hasn't been out long enough and Gamespot has a review in progress. They're giving single player six Alexandra friend Rights our rights in wrote on his review. As a remake resin will three not only fall short of honoring its source but it also doesn't quite stick the landing as a standalone horror experience even without taking into account the original game or its predecessor are three struggles to keep up with its pace amid clash clashing of elements from survive horns standard action while it has a strong start in gives its principal villain some great moments. This truncated retelling of the of the concluding game from the original trilogy. Trilogy doesn't do it. Proper Justice Andrea have. You played this and or how much Brit screamed at you about it and so I have played a little bit of it. I finished it yet because as you can imagine. It's quite a stressful game to play and play that. Yes I appreciate in my review. This was legitimately in the very front of that game. I was like motherfucker like I don't WanNa play anymore way too stressed out right now. We're at stressful times. The last thing my wife right now is something that's GonNa Cause me. Even more stress intentionally literally opens with the line. The pandemic swept the country by surprise. Took the country by surprising. Yeah it's It's chuckles for sure but Britain. I played the demo while I played the Demo while Britain made fun of me last week on the stream but of course she has played multiple times. She has a lot of thoughts that she is going to give. You know what's good Games right after this but I mean she's a resident evil lover. So I pay her. You know liking most of it but then probably having them issues. But I don't know I asked her to send in a couple of thoughts that we could read and I think she's just a little busy this morning so if you do want whiskey yeah at the come. Come to what's good. Yes so like I said our views up right now. It is myself blessing. Tim and Imran. We're all in the same place varying degrees of it where it was good we we all liked it but it wasn't as good as able to which I think. Yeah sorry to interrupt you. I feel like we knew that going in right that it wasn't going to be able to live up to like the amazing bar that Ari to sent sure. Yeah so is one of those that I i. You know. There's a whole bunch of stuff in there. It's enjoyable for sharer my main takeaway from it's enjoyable. I I liked nemesis the most of the front and then throughout. I think they water him down in the boss fights are they. I know one of the reviews. I just read talked about a call back to its roots. They get way too like this. Is what a battle used to feel like in the PS two. I don't want that again like this is not smart. Design emphasis was completely terrifying. The first few times I saw and now he's Kinda boring to fight he's wandering around me. I guess suck because they it. I don't WanNa say they rushed out the remain but it feels like because it came so so quickly after the Ari to remake. It's almost like they didn't put as much care into redesigning specific elements of the game like they did for our e to think it's just that's just the bones of the game. Were Never GonNa get any better see. I think I think it's a bones thing I'm talking out of turn because I didn't play resonated with the real thing you know if you're new to the Greg Miller storyline right like zombies or my favorite horror movie zombies. I couldn't get over the controls and how bad they were. Thought as controls and reservoir Nivo up until Code Veronica was my first one and then started really. Didn't click for a long time I think from what one of the comments on the youtube thing was literally like already three itself. What the original wasn't that great? So there's no way and I so I do think it comes down to bones in a way of like you. WanNa honor what it was? You WanNa do things with it and so yeah like all it just for me personally and these aren't spoilers especially washed trailer like he just doesn't totally add up that like the first time I ran into nemesis. He's cutting off air anywhere. I turn to run he to basically teleport's too and it's like fuck this guy. Terrifying this is like legitimately kept dying and I put it down. I was like black. Do I have it in me as a horrigan panicky playing but then to get to now uses a rocket launcher in slowly. Tribes around this one giant crate. You might all right like this isn't this isn't even fun. Gameplay you know and then you add that leaves beautiful except for Carlos is here games gorgeous except for his hair every everything else is. Stunningly is stunning. That game and I liked the pace it moved at. I like I like Jill. I like everything it's happening but then again it was that I ruled credits in. I think it was five and a half hours and whereas Ari to you know you've finished and then play the other campaign this would be like loses talking about you just restart it and there's some different modifiers you can put on it but there's not like there wasn't a real encouragement to go back to it and so this came up in the argument to its sixty bucks for five and a half hour campaign. Granted comes with this multi-player but I'm do I could do we care about the multi-player like that's it reminds me so much of A. Ps three era. Where it was. We're making this great single payer game but we know everybody loves multi-player we don't need to sell back Game Stop. So we're putting animal mode that nobody gives a shit about and I can't speak to resist. Is that because I haven't but that's my read on it. I guess yeah I don't. I don't know why they decided to do that. I feel like it's not anything anybody was really asking for. Honestly I think they did because they know how short it is again. Ari Three in general from what I understand short as well. So it's like you're not adding much onto it. They're trying to make the package more appealing. Schumer. But I feel like the people who are going to buy in for three remake. We're going to buy it regardless of if the resistance multiplayer was in there because Ari to remake was a pretty short game. I mean sure you can make the argue about replay ability with the different scenarios. You're like ab formulas like the secrets and things like that. But I feel like the people who are the market for already three are going to get it regardless like why why making that multiplayer aspect when potentially those resources could have been used to full like further revamp some of the elements of that clearly fell a little flat according to it's different teams but I think it's part and I think the idea would be that both games are helping each other in some way where adding multiplayer to three makes it closer being sixty package and then taking them. And putting into our because obviously Ari. Three's going to have a bigger fan base than a random resident evil multiplayer thing like even though. I have no real interest in it like I now own resistance right so if I do hear people playing it or there was like hey we should all go play tonight or whatever. I'd be okay cool. I have it like there's that chance to get an install base right in actual player structure going right to your wrong before we go any further. I want to get out here. Ananta biologist has both of them. He says Greg Brannon Jones is the one who narrates the reviews for easy. Is You said Huber? Read it too. I know as soon as it went out of my mouth. I knew bucked up all right but I'm not gonNA stop the show to correct it and then now also falls up or three already. Three remake was made by completely different. Capcom team at the same time as a two. It was not the same team that turned it around made it new year. Good correction there. Thank you question though and again J. MT right saying the Patriots Dot com slash. Funny Games just like you can and says watching the Games cast review for our eighth three and Tim comments on how Ari three as a sequel the two but has characters from one in how we are expected to know who they are and their relationships with each other. Do you think Capcom should have done a remake of one in the style of two and three I do you think they should before they sorry. Do you think they should before? They presumably do a remake of four interesting question. I think the problem there is that remaking the original resident evil has been done before and then already that one's been re released in so it starts to get so goddamn confusing as to what are you're talking about when you talk about it that way. I think people have been clamoring for an army to remake and I think the fact that they wanted to deliver a nail that made sense and it did make a fan out of me right like as I said earlier. I guess technically Razzie will. Seven is the one that made me a fan fan where I was I was playing that in. Vr digging office having a great time. It personally I'm still way more excited to see where we go from there rather than keep going back at remaking stuff but I thought Ari to finally getting. It's Ju Justice and being redone. I think that's what the fans needed at the time. Andrew do you agree. Yeah absolutely. I mean Britain. I've talked about this quite a bit on the idea that you know Ari to was the right. Starting point I think. For longtime fans of the franchise. They agree with you. One hundred percent. Greg that that's where it needed to go In that where it goes from here is going to be interesting. Because we know that in a from Ari four through like already six. The series took a turn for the more action focused combat focus dial which specific fans of resident evil really loved and then other fans of Resident. Evil really hated big. Divide right and so now. I kind of had posed to Brit. Like what game do you think that they would remake if any you know? Instead of just focusing on Ari eight would they remake another one and she seems to think that code. Veronica would maybe be the next thing that they would choose rebate if they had a team as capcom that wanted to keep doing that. I look at the commercial success of this game. Really see what Capcom priorities are going to be. Because if this doesn't have the same kind of financial you know benefits. That are a to remake brought to Capcom as a publisher. Then maybe they'll choose to not make any more remakes. This'll be kind of it. Yeah I would think that wants to set the world on fire. The way they'd last year that they probably looked I. They must have a team working on eight. Obviously but then I think they really started. Yeah looking at what else they could remake in what else they'd WanNa remake and how they wanNA take it again. I think it'd be cooler to go forward in. Keep giving us new stuff. But if there are to do an asset of a reboot right of just starting from scratch. Yeah I think Code Veronica makes a lot of sense. I do think eventually now that are too is done. All eyes are on Ari for right which is like arguably one of the best games of all time people door to see that with modern sensibilities and amazing graphics. And all these things be fascinating to see if that's where they ended up actually doing it but now I don't think they need to go back and make the original against number three. What Europe and Australia. You might be playing final fantasy seven earlier than you thought over on the final fantasy twitter. I'm going to read a along. Whether they posted the final fantasy. Seven remake team have worked extremely hard to make this game and we are incredibly proud of what you are about to play our biggest motivator during the development. Was that so many of you were were willing us on. And we felt your enthusiasm and passion every step of the way we have some hard decisions to make during the final few weeks before launch due to the disruption I'm sorry due to disruption to disruption channels Ono's due to disruption to distribution channels caused by the spread of cove in nineteen. These unique circumstances have made it very difficult to align timing of our global shipping. Our highest priority. Is that of you? Including those who live in countries currently facing the biggest disruption can play the game at launch. So we may decision to ship the game far earlier than usual to Europe and Australia as a result. There's a greater chance that some of you in these regions will now get a copy of the game. Prior to the worldwide release date of April tenth for other Western Regions including the Americas copies will be shipped this week and we feel optimistic that most of you will receive the game on four launched however due to the challenging situation we cannot provide delivery dates for each country and each retailer. We really want all of you looking forward to the final fantasy seven remake experience. I fucked that up. We really want all of you looking forward to final fantasy seven remake to play the game on April. Ten inexperience everything. We've been working on together to everyone we would ask. We would like to ask a big favor. If you get the game early please think of others in. Don't spoil it for them. We know there are potential. Spoilers that have been out there for over two decades. The original fantasy seven was released in nineteen ninety-seven but final fantasy. Seven remake is a new game. That still has many surprises for everyone. All of our fans and players deserve to experience the game for themselves and we ask for the support of our dedicated community around the world to ensure that on behalf of the entire development team in everyone around the world that has worked on getting seven remake to all of you. Thanks again for your support in most importantly please stay safe. That's of course from the producer and director. What a weird time to be alive. Andrea Games aren't getting delayed. It'd be released early. I mean it's kind of exciting but also I'm sure incredibly frustrating gamers who aren't in those territories right especially in a game. That's so narrative focused and the reason why people really are excited to play an in addition to you know. Revamped animation and combat is like the story elements. That are different. But I mean this happens with any kind of narrative focus game so hopefully you know you can get your mute. Words all set up on your Social Media Channel. Then you know. Be Wary of you. Know comments on twitch. Yeah keep off the read it If you're really concerned about those stories boilers but I feel like with this happening. That screen suggests release it globally everywhere. Oh go ahead with that exact same thought Andrea than saying Patriot dot com slash kind of funny games and says what's Good Greg and Andrea. So why keep the release date at this point? It's squares trying to think of the fans while also trying to keep all the employees involved with the distribution process as safe as possible. Shouldn't they just start releasing copies or is that leaving it way too much up to chance for when people will finally get to play the game? What about those who preordered the game from the store that is now closed cannot get their money back? Will they be considered? Sol told slash told to go digital by the developers even if it may may not be possible for so so that's the really challenging part. Is that this idea that this physical pipeline to brick and mortar stores is absolutely interrupted right now and would be interrupted even if there wasn't a global pandemic happening you can't just flip a switch and boom all of the physical copies are in the stores or shipping out when they need to be if you decide to release early and it's challenging because you don't want to tell people who spent money priori that their dollars aren't as important as the people who are buying digital. It's like it's interesting because we've been talking a lot over the last couple of weeks. If this pandemic is really going to push our industry specifically into digital distribution much faster than I think the infrastructure is ready for and really. Publishers are ready for mean. We're seeing widespread. You know Internet congestion issues. In addition to people like YouTube xbox Sony publicly saying we're slowing down bandwith or slowing down downloads. Intentionally to try to combat this congestion. So it's like well if you do just want to say okay. Everybody WHO's bought digital. You can go ahead and download. It's like that super not fair. It's like how do how do you do a rollout to make it fair and I don't think that there is a way I think inherently it's just always going to be lopsided if you do something like this particularly in the face of the global pandemic that we're in and that's the biggest thing about it and I want you to know from the start of this. I'm not throwing shade unanimous or anything like that. It's I think all of us getting so caught up in our little world where we're trying to take this pandemic and apply to the thing that we obviously are looking forward to obviously one. Have you know if you're a final fantasy seven fan of lusted after for twenty years right like it is the longest short that video games are entertainment in? Don't matter that much you know what I mean like. They are art and I love them. They're my entire life but I'm saying that to turn it around here and be like why not do this and what I mean first off square doesn't WanNa do this. Their hand is being forced. This is from their statement right. It sounds like a hail Mary to try to make sure people in Europe and Australia. Get the game in time. I'm sure this they're dealing with this costing them a obscene amount of money. Probably in terms of speeding shipping. Getting these things express doing whatever they're doing so take that part to it and then apply to do that for the entire world because it would cost even more money and they're trying to take care of fans the best they can in. This is the best they can do right now. Send them out early in totally grin and bear it and hope that people don't immediately go to twitch and ruin the entire game even though they could and that's within their right and they own the you know what I mean. There's so many moving parts to this. Then come back and like you know what about this preorder from a game that This now closing. They can't get their money back again. That's not on square that the store would have closed because of this in. It's not on you the consumer that you preordered a physical edition that store's not there to be open. That's just the fact that right now. The world isn't fair like the world isn't fair right now. In any sense of the imagination we are. We've always said that in day in day out we are being proven to be correct in that way and so it is that at some point we have to sit there and be like man. This fucking sucks but at least it's not medicine at least it's not food. The game stores closed. But the grocery store is still open is still stocked. And they're trying to keep that production pipeline in delivery pipeline. Going like I hear you and I. It sucks in if you know if it was some game that I had been on the IRT. There'd be that moment in that selfish moment we're cough county but like at some point we have to step back and look at the bigger picture and be like okay. This sucks spot. God Blesses Square. Try to make your money. Trump's take care of your people I mean this is them doing the best they can write. This isn't them trying to gouge them. Saying Fuck you America. This isn't doing it. It's I'm just really our hands are tied. We want to get this to you. GotTA TAKE THIS RISK. And that's hard that's crazy. You said it I do that. You'll be sorry I mean you were very. You're very thoughtful in your response. Good entry I miss you. I am not greg. One day. We'll be in the same room again. He will happen number four on the rope. Report modern warfare. Two remastered looks like it's dropping this week we're talking to or this is rob. I don't want to go talking to. I was Andy Robinson for video games. Chronicle DOT COM REPORTS. The much tip remastered Which is thought to have been developed by Wisconsin based Raven software is most likely to arrive with the playstation store's big weekly update which takes place every Tuesday while warfare to remastered has been listed on the German playstation store which confirms that the remastered will cost twenty four ninety nine in weigh in at forty six point nine gigabytes. A trailer is also leaked. Just like twenty sixteen rerelease of the original warfare. Mata warfare to re master remastered will feature an updated version of the shooter's campaign while there is no multiplayer mode included some of the original games. Maps have already been remastered for the twenty twenty modern warfare game with more coming in its upcoming season. Three update on warfare to remastered will feature a tie in with the new model warfare and thus free to play warzone which shares the same item store. Cool I got nothing injury. Yeah exactly good. It's been rumored forever. Go get caught fans Scheuer. It's it's Nice I mean it's it's smart of activision to say. Hey we were waiting for a reason to maybe released this later as part of like a marketing push. Maybe we just do it now because people are at home playing more video games now than ever before. Though if it's ready to go like chip it yeah. I wonder if that is the reason it was. You know if they've been sitting on a forever or if it was already they were trying to shadow. Drop it here or how that all works out. I feel stories. Yeah I would guess that if you know everything that's happening wasn't happening and we were going in this was in twenty. Twenty was a regular video game marketing year that they probably would have announced this or released it in. May when they traditionally announced their new call of duty for the year that's generally when they do their big splashy like this is the call of duty that's happening obviously it leaks on. Kabq first and then they announce it like a week or two later and then they show it in detail at e three. That's really been like their formula for the last however many years it's been and so I would guess that's when they normally would have released it but I mean why not. Just do it now. Number five on the Roper Report Games Industries Rallying to fight cove in nineteen. This is something we've been updating. Has We go but Andrea. You dropped this one in here so what? I thought was really great about this. As we know that there's a lot of people doing good and raising money for charity is on twitch all the time man. I got a press release about this specifically for for who in the United Nations Foundation And that this event had so far has raised over two point seven million dollars. And what's great about that is that it's a it's a Nice feel-good story in a time where there's a lot of knock feel-good stars happening. I did think it was interesting that there was so many artists that aren't traditionally associated with the gaming industry that part of it people like Ellie Goulding Mumford and sons and and John Legend but what I thought was the best is talking about where the proceeds are going so the covert nineteen solid our Solidarity Response Fund which helps make sure that Healthcare workers have critical supplies. Like masks gloves and more. It helps to make sure that more test. Kits are available and that health workers are trained on how to respond to cove in nineteen and that scientists and researchers will have more funding for vaccine development. Something I think we all can get behind. Yeah Yeah it's awesome. It's been really cool to see everybody come together and start supporting and all these different ways to. It's crazy that you know. Obviously as the shelter in place has been extended even more how much more we will all need to come together. But it's always good to see that and it's good on game. Industry is for keeping a running tally. I know of everything going on. You can get in there and see all the yeah I think for all of our psyches like we need to focus on the uplifting part of this because otherwise we're just gonNA sink lower lower and get more angry at each other and we. We don't need that we need to like persevere and the best way to do that as to focus on the things that are going well and the things that we can control the things that we can do to make other people's lives better Wilson Andrea and then to close out the roof before number six. Just a fun fun story here for you must. You're the person getting destroyed players figured out a way and how to get into the Star Wars Jedi Academy Console Editions. That are destroying people. This is Jordan. Goodman at Jian the Console Board of Star Wars Jedi Knight jet. I academy is being invaded by veteran players. The news arrives thanks to a report for PC gamer which details the quote accidental. Cross play which has led to PC players facing off against those using nintendo switch or playstation controls in Jeddah Academies multiplayer mode forums and social media platforms are amok with players complaining about PC veterans arriving in their multiplayer lobbies and wiping the floor with the inexperienced more casual players on council. Who Don't have the added benefit of pinpoint mouse and keyboard setup as noted by user. Max Payment on reset era It looks like PC players finding council servers Ip on the console versions of the game and then jumping into their PC PC version connecting to that I. This effectively bypasses the assume restrictions in jump straight into open console multiplayer matches allowing PC fans who've been playing the game originally launched back in two thousand. Three Surrey Cabinet It's IT'S J Red Cross. Play Situation Solution Many fans have voiced their concerns on twitter with some responding to a tweet from aspire media the developer behind the console port asking to fix the asking us to fix the server of roller abilities. One reply from Twitter User Jedi Knight. Hub reads quote. I think we'd all rather you patch out the IP address being displayed. Change the IP's and do all you can't from PC players do all you can front pc players entering the servers. Please look into this. It's ruining the experience for the Newcastle players in quote. Obviously don't get me wrong. Sucks Vera Council player and you WanNa have fun but also in these times kind of funny somebody who's so dedicated to this two thousand and three boot it up and go kick the shit out of people that are on council Sure that's yeah. I guess that's one way to look at. It is not how I look at it. I would look at it as like wow displaying people's. Ip address seems like a breach of security that I know still exists in a bunch of PC games and a bunch of online games in general. But like maybe you don't maybe just don't put that your game anymore pretty important. Yeah I would. I would definitely say yes. Definitely reason not to do it. And one of the lesser reasons not to display your IP address. But yeah. I'm sure it'll be fixed. Probably by the time is episode posts. You imagine there. Do you think enough people are playing this gave they're gonNA jump on a hot fix? You'd think so rightly it's a big deal. I saw star Wars People Star Wars. I think the fact that it's getting traction enough that has it. We're talking about it like there's a bunch of God she's clearly. This is now a story. They have to have something to say about it today. Yeah I don't know like the idea that pc players feel some kind of superiority. Going against Nintendo switch players like cool. Good job buddy. You really did it but man if if you're getting a good xp boost you know what? I mean angry. I can't wait to see how long it takes. Aspire media fix this thing but that's so far away you know what else is far away the upcoming list because I need to tell you about our sponsors today. Sponsor is none other than what's good. Games live you can watch it live twitch dot TV slash. What's Good Games Mondays at eleven? Am that's right right after this episode of Kinda Funny Games daily there will be writing. Andrea. That's right greg. What happens on what? What's Good Games live? Oh this is really nice of you and by the way. We didn't talk about this ahead of time. Greg is just such a kind person that he's doing this as a very sweet favorite to watch. Good Games So you can find and I talking about news from over the weekend and also taking questions in deer. Wg Gee we also. We'll be doing a gameplay stream most weeks I don't know what we're going to play today. 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E3 2019 LIVE! - What's Good Games (Ep. 109)

What's Good Games

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E3 2019 LIVE! - What's Good Games (Ep. 109)

"Yeah. Good everybody. Walk them to one other episode of the what's good games, podcasts. Live from e three twenty nineteen at the game spot base. Asian out here in chick Hearn court. I got a Hello on the audience. What's up? Where are still glad to be back working with gamespot? This is our third year doing with gives notes author years. We had a great time at the game spot stage last year. And so when they reach dogs that, hey, what's games wanna come back to eat three. And we were like. Is going to be there, of course, comes up about video games but first introductions I've horse. I'm Andrea Rene joined as always by miss Christine's timer. Hello and Britney blocker, so ladies. It's the end of three. The end we made it mostly. I know. Right. Good. It's been a little strange like the three in general. My God don't too hard. They're gonna put. But otherwise, it's been really good. Good brittany. How are you? Doc, don't push the stage over and like straddling the stage and I feel like three's been wonderful. Great. It's been great. I've got this season games that I've been looking forward to seeing for a very long time. Had some emotional moments you were there. And you were there. For all of them. I was there for the first one which we're going to get into soon. So we have decided, of course, once again, to do our ten cool things we side, e three twenty nineteen where each going to pick three things even though let's be honest, a lot of overlap happening here, 'cause we agree that a lot of the things we each like we're pretty cool, then we're gonna talk about one game that really stood up to all three of us. So we're just going to go ahead and dive. Right. And we don't have much time and a lot to talk about. And don't forget next week. We will be back with our regularly scheduled show, but we will deep dive into all of the things that we saw here this week at e three so let's get started with us timer. Oh boy. What is one of the coolest things here at e three, twenty nineteen so I'm going to start with what call the lightest one. The one that I do enjoy, and I think as door up your skirt. Dippers early super blown-up escort. And that is the new LEGO Star Wars. I apologize actually forget what the news guy Walker song or saga. There's so many frigging title our words titles. We'll get you. So that, of course, is being developed by the one and only tease games known for the LEGO franchise published by Warner Brothers. We got to see a nice little teaser of it. I believe during the XBox preteen. Yes. And I went to the demo together and the cuteness overload is on point as always it is, like, okay, but it wasn't just like the cuteness. I was so impressed with the environments. They were talking about how they basically redeveloped their engines, and now everything is brand new. They didn't just remastered of the old titles because they had LEGO Star Wars games in the past. They've actually rebuilt everything. It's really. And it's beautiful. And the lighting is just like, oh, I just wanna walk around and look at things, and then I get to beat adorable little LEGO person, and, like knock things over or parents, you can mind control people into dancing. And I was like, yeah. Sounds great. All the ways you could use the four. Yeah, the forest, they had a lot of interesting things. Obviously, the dancing was my favorite, of course, because I'm gonna make everybody. Well, it's always a dance party timers around couch, co op is coming back to that, too. Yes. Oh, stateful from the LEGO franchise for sure. I saw I didn't see it with ladies, but I also saw the demo and I was blown away, I wasn't sure what to expect. The only LEGO game I've ever played where the Star Wars games that came out nine years ago. I don't know how long ago those came out. And so I wasn't sure what to expect but yeah. Seeing how open wurley it is. You can kind of exploring one around how beautiful it is like I'm in, and it was nice. The also showed us a few of the details, developers kind of put in there like, oh, you go around these corners. There's just there's little Easter eggs everywhere for you to find, and it just shows how much they really truly care about the work that they do, and it's really nice to see so absolutely what's great about the team at TT is that they take these licenses that we all know in love, but they also add all these original business story. So there's these open world exploration parts of the game and then they have what they call story moments. So those are going to be those iconic scenes that you recognize from all the. Our wars episodes, one through nine including the upcoming one that's releasing later this year and what I thought was really need. Is that they ally to essentially kind of hot swap between the episodes, whenever you want to so they have all nine of them available? And you can kind of like rotate between which one, you want to start with or which one you wanna finish with, and then you can kind of leave your playthrough in the middle of an episode, and it saves your progress, you can jump into another one. So let's say our demo they were playing the return of the jet. I do. Let's start there. But then, you're like, oh, no. Maybe I wanna go check out what's going on the Phantom Menace. You can do that to have on over. Yeah. And then also thought it was interesting how they're saying that the way that they build some of the stuff in game. They actually have like LEGO people build it. And then they put it on just like that's crazy. I want you to release all of the, the blueprints for these things to see if anyone can build them again, in real life, like just be a little star lucked. Oh, yeah. That was talking about the one to one scale of these games and how it would be almost impossible to. Create them in real life just goes. How many bricks it takes to build some of these iconic, set pieces from the Star Wars universe, so yeah, yeah, good first picks timer? X brits. Cool things you saw through dragon ball, z caca rot. I'm so excited. So this Drake ball project z for a while. And then we finally got the official title unveil and a dragon ball z action RPG is something that I've wanted for a very, very long time. We got legacy of Goku back on GameBoy advance. It was cool, but it wasn't like I mean those GameBoy advance not a knock against GameBoy advance. But, you know. Keyboard man. No, no, no, no. It's so the, the main question was okay. We know what kind of story we're getting the same story that's been told over and over again, and your eyes glass over, and it's fine. But it's the dragon ball z. Go Goku freezes Auga and his game. The demo was only twenty minutes and picked off, where rabbit, stole go on his son, and you go COO with your friend Piccolo, and you gotta go save your kid. This time right now. I just like what, what are slightly? Love. Good. Dragon ball. Like sushi roll. Oh my God. Get out of here. Okay. So obviously that we know this is we're going to get. But what the big question is, how is this going to translate into action RPG now it's not open world truly, because they have to stay true to the story. And if they open up the entire world during buzzy you're going to be able to find people that you shouldn't find because the arts ring true to the lore. But this is from what I've seen it has all the Staples all the foundation for solid RPG, which makes me very, very excited. I. During the demo you could go save her son, or you go dick around, which is actually what I did, and I was like looking through all down. Thank you. Yeah, Bernice a- priorities. Save someone. I love. No dick dick around that goes, I gotta dig around, because I wanted to dive into the menus in seed. I'm a huge RPG sound like how are PG esque is going to be so I like wrote down all the options in the menus was really, really happy. So this isn't RPG in the sense that you do inexperienced points. You do upgrade your skills by collecting these things called z, orbs, the, to get different colored orbs just kind of like floating around God crackdown. I didn't play crackdown. Well, let me whenever I didn't either of these games. You're talking about herbs. And I'm like, Ooh, I didn't get into drinking. Okay. So yeah, you have these orbs and there's blue ones to get those you have to go into the water. If you want green with you have to go into the woods, and that's how you find them. Each skill requires a specific amount of orbs to upgrade. And so you have the upgrading and there's fishing, and there's hunting, and there's cooking. I know they just like regular animals. Dinosaurs, dinosaurs, there's a star. It's a weird world. Okay. There's dinosaurs and it's amazing. So I kill the dinosaurs, and there's crafty and will like this game. Okay. There's orbs and dinosaurs perfect. Perfect thing. And then when you open up the map, you know, you see all these icons of things to do their sub quests, they're called. Then there's a main quest trainers. There's cooks. There's other things that you can go around. And like exploring, do the things that you wanna do this items defined. You can grind level up and get stronger. The combat fell relief fund. You had your key blast and you had melee. And then if you hold down LB plan on XBox controller, you have command you have. Commandments. Yes. I think I mispronounced. That's okay. You have a few other skills as well. So I'm excited because now I'm more hopeful because I do think dragon ball, the Lord can translate into an awesome RPG, if can be executed, well enough and so far, it looks like the foundation is set for it. Now they can fill what the, you know, engaging content to make it all come together nine very exciting. Good. I'm glad that you're happy because coulda gone the other way it could've said Britney the harvest moon game that I've. Yeah, we're gonna talk about bad. We don't want that. Okay. So my first pick is going to be the thing that we played most recently that I got to play hands on with Brit is monster hundred world ice born. So I was duper excited about this. Because obviously monster hunter world was amazing. It doen't dozens of dozens of hours probably close to eighty to one hundred hours into monster hundred world which is a lot for me because I didn't think I was gonna like this game at all because I've tried monster. Hunter in the past on my three s and it just didn't click with me. But clearly they changed up a lot of the formula with monster. Hunter world to make it more approachable to people like me who've always been, maybe like on the periphery of the hunting genre, but never really dove right him and something about this game just really grabbed me. And so when they announced this expansion, and they said that we were going to get hands on here. He three I was like, AVI. We gotta go play. So we got the chance to get. Hands on. And of course, I went light Bogue on because that's my weapon of choice. I thought it was interesting. 'cause the people watching us play the demo we're like we haven't seen anybody uses weapon yet, and I was like it's the best one, but I get the monster hers known for like the big hammers and the swords and stuff. What your women says I did the dual blades, or whatever they're called the 'cause they're fast because. Yeah, I like the big heavy weapons. But if you miss time that you're good. Fifty yards that way. And then you yeah. Yeah. For fast weapons, too. I didn't play much during the world, as you know, because my XBox would not run it did not. It's true. We should have got you start over on sports at that time. It was it was too late. I'm gonna move. It's true. We'll maybe we'll get you in for the expansion. So they've added some really cooling feature. So the first thing of course, the new pal coat. I'll are are so adorable. I can't even get over it. Like he's got like a little snow snowboard on the back. It's like a full snowsuit. It's so cute. They've got new armor says they've got new types of weapons that you can craft. They've got these new monsters, of course, that are all snow base the mechanics of traversing through the world kind of senior character go all the money. Win run and somebody lost relation hit an unknown. Of course, you guys know that we are live here outside at the bay station for gamespot. And we said that we wanted someone to play this giant Jenga game that they have over here. And then we totally forgot about it, until someone. They were doing it. So self leaves very silent. But congrats, I'm proud of you. Make sure make sure one of our friends of their gives you the prize that he promised to. Yes, the pros, you have rightfully one. All right back to monster hunter world ice form. And so you're moving in traversing to the world through deep snow. And when you get snow cumulation on your character actually drains your stamina. So they've added a hot drink, which is one of the many symbols that you can use in the world to help buff, your stamina, when you're out on hunt hunt chocolate, and then you have to be sure to like manage the snow accumulation on your hunter because, hey, just like shake it off Shawn when you roll stuff like it comes off. But it's like something that sometimes when you're in the middle of a fight with a with a monster you forget about it. On the fight. Right. And then you don't. I haven't played well, really depends which weapon you have, and how much Samina how much mobility you have. Because I am a light Bogan player. I have a lot more agility, because my weapon isn't as powerful, so it makes me faster. But it's also also usually weaker, I have to be more strategic types of ammo that I'm using it against the monsters to make sure that I'm maximizing my fishing, see with my hits because they are not as powerful as some of the big blade weapons are the big boys. Yeah. Exactly. And so that, that was a really neat mechanic. But really, I think Britain, I had the most fun with the trail writer like these skunk. Looking dudes. Yeah. So tailgater their animals. They're not doing so there's still there's different kinds. So the tail writers were part of the palacasino in the main game where you could get these pal coz at join your hunt, and would help you fight, and they would help sniff out things for you in the world on what's cool about the trail writers. It's now amount that you can some him that will track. The monster for you. And so when you're out in the world, you just a quick your mount your, your travel writer, and then your little buddy, just runs up, you jump on its back, and then as all automated. So you can pick up and harvest items as as he's running you to the monster. And it saves you so much time. It's like the best thing ever, the express train to the monster. Yeah. I don't really like the hunting part of monster hunter, like I don't want to track it. I just wanna get to this one and I wanna kill. Now, I don't have to worry about, I can just hop on this little creature, and it takes me to my favorite place, which is able to harvest items wall, you're on. It is like the. Like I've had games before where you're on amount. And then you have to keep getting off of it in order to harvest anything, and you're not this is just a pain in the ass walk. Yeah. We were just spam in that circle button man, I was just picking up all the stones again. Give me all. It was great in the snow physics were so good. Yeah. I mean, the game winning monster hundred world was a beautiful game to begin with them, adding all of these snow mechanics. And the, the lighting with the snow and the monsters with all the ice. And everything it just it's a ruling cool way to do an expansion, what I thought was really fascinating. When we were talking with the development team, they said that the amount of content in the ice foreign expansion is almost as much content as the base game of monster hundred forty dollars expansion. I don't remember what the prices, but it's like that'd be a justified price if there is that much constant in. I mean because I mean the campaign was awesome. And then was all this replay ability going after the different armor sets and the different weapons sets and things like that, and upgrading. I mean, I know people that are very loud motorcycle outside, is you there, people that have done five hundred plus hours in some instruments are on world? So I was really excited by it. So it was fine. It was. I'm surprised at how easy was a pick it up and start playing again. I think in my mind I had it that it was just big jumbled like you, I mess. And it really wasn't that bad. Yeah. No, it was. Yeah. Muscle memory. It's like riding a bike exactly killing monsters monster. All right. Steiner up. Oh boy. Well, I would like to talk about the coolest reveal it wasn't really cool trivial. But it was the one most dear to my heart because it had the old lady squad legion. To the back. Yeah. Can't wait to be Rosebud and only her. So in watch Jin, you can be any NPC, that's like, basically the whole stick of the game as you can recruit people, and then play them, which means you can check nuclear have an entire roster of, like old ladies. Yes, son, acid developer about this, and they said, yeah, you cannot -solutely one hundred percent that the only thing is you will be a little slow. We bring it. A mobility challenged character fish. That's very accurate way of saying it because. Yeah Britney and I had a little bit of hands on time just game before he threw technically started and as I was, I was like no, I want to be her went to her, she's great. And I did play her. But then I switched to younger character. And I was like, oh, could definitely see the difference here. Like is very noticeable when you're playing as an elderly person versus when you're playing someone who's in their twenties cause you can like sprint and do all these things. And then you're kinda just like hunched over hobbling. But they have cool gadgets. Yeah. That's what I thought was really neat about what they're doing with watchdogs, legion. Is that not only are there, different speeds for the physicality and the reversal of these characters, but they all have different buffs in different skill sets. Yeah. And you can kind of make them into three different classes that you can specialize in and sped about spider bots were great. That's what I use the most with, with the personnel supplying with, and she would just be like spider goat in that clause onto their face, like face hugger, then I just shocked him in the face, and then they would go down brilliant and just be like spider about about about. It was great. Yeah. It's going to be interesting since there, isn't one course character in this game. Yeah. See how it impacts the narrative or maybe an emotional investment that you have in this game. Yeah. I think that'll be interesting. I also think it's really cool that they went ahead and did all that work to make every single cut scene work with any of these NPC's in the world and have them be a little bit more. Unique. So like the elderly lady was like, just chilling on the bench. But the younger lady that I was playing with would stick like up on top of the bent on the, the back part of the bench. I don't like the fact that you took the time to do this, when probably with the little detail, right? The little details even though most people probably wouldn't notice or care is amazing. I've always had such a great appreciation for the work that the BBC off our teens, do and building, these worlds doesn't matter which franchise, it is, whether it's ghost recon or watch or assassin's creed. I think their attention to detail throughout all of their franchises in their world. Building is really like best in class. Yeah. No, it's fantastic. I actually never got a chance, even to play the other to watch. Don't sorry. I didn't play to watch prefer. But I am excited about this one, and I it looks interesting and I want to just recruit all my peoples. What are you gonna call your granny squad? What, what are you going to call your granny squad? I mean, the golden girls off. Yeah. I mean, that, that's just the low hanging fruit, rare take all. All. It does seem like that's a popular thing. I saw you other people tweeting about that, too. So I, I, I'm gonna get a kick out of all the clips that come once this game is out and everyone's playing it on Twitter on YouTube, and spent, like look at this the way I like did this stealth run this ninety for a really good crew to do a nonlethal run? Yeah. Right. But, but I liked it in, at least in the trailer that they show they had the excess Tasan basically, grandma. Oh, yeah. Like this. Good. Yeah. Oh man. From a nap on my bench, yet, so much swearing in that trailer. Omitted the swears which I don't want mostly because we're here there, maybe children around could be children nearby. So we'll do our best to keep this, this PG. Well, we'll definitely hear more from watchdogs legion in the coming months because it's slated for spring twenty twenty feels like so many games. Those sirens are here in Los Angeles, LA live. Hopefully it is not from watchdog chin. There were a lot of Hello. You go get him Los Angeles requirement. There were a lot of people chasing me at one point in the demo and I was just running around like a madwoman clan and just the province, so that they a lot of checkpoints and like the minute you go through one of those everyone knows exactly where you are. So I'm just like screaming going like driving, like a maniac L accidentally hitting checkpoint being like screw this drive on the other side of the road. I was also driving on the road, obviously in the UK people. All driving. I am not used to that. Yeah. I drive on the right side of the road. So I was just I think I like full on hit thirty people I eventually drove the car to the park got out of the car and ran around the park, and it worked so protect for me to you. You're trying to chase escape the cops drive your car to the park hit a few people get out. Maybe try to avoid the people. If you can't if you had lost control over everything. Yeah. There I'm all right. Let's move on to Brits next pick. Oh, so I finally got to play fantasy seven today and. Yeah. Oh my God. This is the game I had to go hands on with all share. So the demo is the same thing that we saw during the reveal where you're with Barrett, and you're out the reactor and it's the beginning of the game cloud passes at the bomb, and they have to try to escape but then the big guard scope. Scorpion comes in, like messes up your day. I had I mean, there's a few things planted the and all the clips and seeing all the footage of it. You know, you get really excited you're next to me during the square. You saw me lose my mind. Oh, yes. I witnessed the emotion during the square Unix media. Reveal. Yeah there's a lot of motion there. And that's always been great. But, like actually having your hands on the controller if feels real, it's so real in just kind of panning the camera around and looking at cloud from all the angles. Shots, do if you little glimpses. Does he squat? No. All right. He lives though he lives using that heavy sword is very heavy. And just seeing, you know, being able to paint around and see action actually moving around and see you, Barron here Barrett. And just like beat in this environment. I just like super motion reaction, not like but like it's happening, but you were grunting throughout the entire presently silently grunting today, 'cause there's people next to me, and I didn't want, like freak them out. But yes. So I mean, just actually playing it just made me this is actually happening. And I mean it looks great. It's fun to play in when the music's are playing in the background. It's like a Ray mix of the old music. It's just like so anyway, but yeah. Really straightforward them. You're just walking around the reactor. There's a few guards that you have to take down to kind of get familiar with the combat. If you testified in the combat field, the combat feels really good. I was able to pick it up and play and like do it. No problem. So the way obviously fantasy seven when I came out turn based. Yeah. And how it works. You have your ATV action time that Phil. And then you can execute attack while these lay that's not the way things are now so you have square, which is your standard attack then after you use where you build up your gauge and went that's filled up, then you can do, like braver you can do some of his other skills, like triple slash or something was one of them, as you take damage or limit bar fills up. And then when that fills up, then you get to do things like his cross lash, which is, you know, the awesome move. He ended the demo on ozo-. Good. But the combat works really. Well, you know, it's real time in the sense that you can switch between characters whenever you want me pushing down on the deep has just cloud in Barrett, who was controlling and the guard scorpion adding incapacity incapacitate never go him by using funder, which is one the Barrett spells. So I would be playing as cloud, and then you can manage your character's like on the fly or you can actually switch to them to manage them. So if you're playing cloud in your like trying to get your ATV gauge up and you're slashing slash ended. You notice that Barrett's gauge is full you are to switch over to him, or you can push arts, you in his sign a command on the fly and by pushing. It's called the tactical mode, and then it times, like almost comes to complete stop and go. But I was just about to ask actually, like, is there a way to, like slow down if I need that and it's a sweet medium, because it gives you the feeling of the turn based combat, you kind of grew up in love. But now it's more modernized. And it works really. Well, it was really easy to pick up and understand it. And the battle was really intense and religious so good. I wish there was more to see, but what does it feel like because obviously back in the day, it's all like pixels on screen like when he goes last. You know what's it like seeing him like execute these moves? It will. It's a move because it was so good. And it was so, well, done voice acting to still going. Weirdly. It's like a muppet voice, but no. But it was just so well done. And I know this is only a snippet, obviously, the first boss fight and the game. But if they can if it's quality can be kept up throughout the rest of the game with all these major moments. And again, then clouds, are you driving the whole probably? Yeah. I, I honestly didn't expect to get that emotional of I just played seven for the first time like four years ago and every planet now on my switch, but something about issue so magical, and seeing it in this form on my God. Thing about. What did you think about reveal? Oh my God. She's, she's a cool. She's so pretty such a bad ass as an awesome character. Are you gonna play this? You probably will very intrigued by the combat changes. You know, me, I'm not a turn based person. It's just doesn't get me excited until I usually abandoned, anything that's turn bays. But obviously, it's much more full action this time around, but as you mentioned, they're kind of doing nod to the turn based combat of, of your by with that tactical mode. And so I definitely going to step into the world and see what it's like and get a feel for. But like feels like it's going to be a long game 'cause they're stretching it out into these episode of things because they built so much new content in. I mean obviously a love letter to fans of final fantasy presume clearly final fantasy seven but that's not Andrea Rene, right? You like what's the suite of it? Let's get to that. You watch. What's good? You know about my final fancy nine experience with that. So we know we're not going over that now. But I'm definitely intrigued, I think it looks beautiful, and like I said, I think what they're doing with the combat changes. Look, really cool. It's so good. Starting to grant all right now. It's all good. So speaking of combat this next title, but I. Grunting instead. No, no grunting. Well, there's some kind of grunting in this game but obviously a very combat focus game and it's dine light. I'm so happy you like it. So the first time I didn't really get into because the night cycle part of that game was just was scary, scary in the volatile. Do want things chasing me. It was too intense for me. And I just had to put it down and kind of walk away from it now. Luckily I haven't seen the night cycle part of this game. Yeah, I'm still excited for. They haven't showed it, yet they gonna keep though. Yes, they did show obviously a few things in the trailer. We saw it on the XBox showcase of which was great. And then they got to see this cool behind closed door demo here at three twenty nineteen. So I wanna talk a little bit about what we got to see. I think the thing that really impressed me the most and the demo was the way that they've upgraded the park horn traversable system in the world. So I had asked a question to the velopment team, this demos, cool, but it doesn't look this cool, because it's demo because it's a developer who has gripped, you know exactly where you're running two. I was like or is there going to be a way for me as a novice player to be able to see where I go? He's like, actually you can pretty much climb. Everything in the world, like you have a stamina bar, of course, that's going to make to make meaningful choices about which path you choose to take, but they've really put work into an algorithm that kind of learning as you go. So while you're wall running while, you're grappling with your grappling hook or you're swinging rafters or whatever that kind of like guide you along. And I'm really excited to get hands on with that, of course, you know they haven't let us play the game yet. Which is a bummer. I really was hoping that this year would be the year, especially since they finally told us the release to spring, twenty twenty but I was really impressed by the demo and the traverse. Oh, great. Of course, we got this new hero Aiden. Caldwell that we got to learn a little bit more about here at e three and then the, the consequences so that was like the big thing that they were showcasing this demo at three was this game has quote massive consequences from your choices pressure. And it was really evidence. Don't fuck it up on helicopter going overhead look, it's Imerese everybody. Ladies. So what was cool about the demo is that it did really feel the consequences had wait. So we came across some characters, there was a scuffle going on between a couple different factions because the drinking water has run out. And now it's up to you to try to figure out why this overlord guy is withholding the water and to get water back because obviously waters, reporting eventually and the lifts it's with the end that storyline. There's all of these different individuals smaller choices you have to make that have lasting impact on your game. And I thought that that was really interesting because we've seen several developers, try to tackle these narrative consequences within gains before on, but sometimes choices by ladies, sometimes the choices, don't feel like they actually manner, but, but they feel like they have weight and dine light to the one of the options are the things that we basically saw was, like, whether or not you choose to trust this guy, who's holding the water or you kind of basically just kill. Him and take it. And so in the demo he chose to, to go against the sky, and take the water and doing that opens up basically an entire section of the map because it drains the water out of one area and puts it somewhere else. And then they had like a little tease of a new type of infected coming out of the ground, which believe they called the drown, but he goes around her yet. And so that was actually interested. I wouldn't unlocked if you do. Yeah. Types of infected, you may never see depending on your choices in the game. And I think that that's really interesting. Yeah. They said by the time you finished your first play or you probably won't we see fifty percent of the content which crazed. That's why all do you know not that I am going to play this game like ten times the all the content? That's what Wicky are for. Thank you to all of you Wicky makers out there, or I can just watch somebody else stream it by YouTube. But I think it's a really interesting style of game making. Right. It's like this idea that they wanna give so much content to the players and say we wanna put value into this box, right? Like we know the games are expensive. And we want to make something that we think is a really compelling experience. Not just another begins right? Yeah. We're going into this, because obviously, you were stoked. But I one you like you wanna play this one. I was kinda like we'll come to this demo. I don't really know whatever. Sure. But it didn't sound like my kind of game. They had my most is there. So I guess bar Steiner, you'll. The booze. And then I go in, and I'm watching this Delmonico's like this, actually kind of, fascinated to be actually sort of up my alley. Because at least during the day, again I haven't seen the night cycle so scared of the. Ciller. But the day was like I can do this like there is obvious around, but they're not the didn't seem like the thing that I would be the most worried about like it's really obviously as the thing that you don't necessarily like Zomba games. It's the other people, you really need to worry about world asked that during demos said, you know, I'd say you could classify the first light, this is the second one by one all said and done will also be classified and essentially said, I hope not, you know, the focus of this time around is more on the humans. And it's that's fine. I get it. That's a that's a path will zombie fiction as opposed to be nonfiction. Yes, go down becomes about the humans. But yeah, and they said about the night cycles because I want to be chased by the volatile and I want to see my Amazon to be chased by she likes, what am I even question for? Cited by both of you are like warm enough to it was very impressed by what Tuxpan show. And so it was also beautiful pretty hoes apocalyptic world. But the colors popped the lighting was gorgeous. It was just like blue shot, crispy colors textures like them. Looked really, really nice really sharp. All right. Keeping on with our ten cool things. We thought he three twenty nineteen Steiner. What is your next pick? I guess we'll go from one polish developer to another house. Good CD product read. Ooh. Cyberpunk twenty seven. Okay. Yeah. That's maybe that'll be. I, I saw you like we're making contact and really try trying to keep you were going to keep going for a second. I was really excited to hear your cyber palm. I mean that's all we have time to kill. We have to fill our work. I'll work on a cyberpunk for next week. Okay. But so we got yet another like lengthy meaty demo this year last year. I was a little turned off by the dialogue. Yeah. Felt like it was a little bit try hard. There was way too many f bombs, that's me speaking, I drop a lot of f bombs Romley. Also, we're super hung over. I don't remember anything to do with it just there was something off about it. Then I feel like yes. Fixed this time around which I was excited about the dialogue float. A lot better. They also played as the male version of the for the most part. There was a couple of times when he swapped back and forth to the female. But otherwise, the world is crazy technology wise, like. So I don't mean like cyber implants or anything like that. I made like there's no loading screens, your walking from place to place in your doing all these things, and you're having this quest progress and yet, you're not like I opened a door. And now let's look at this beautiful loading screen. Like, that's it doesn't hinder you in any way. Was, which is great. And I thought the district that we saw in his demo was really cool. So I am. Fortunately, didn't get to see the demo last year because I was busy on stage, but what was really neat is that this is a there's very distinct districts in cyberpunk twenty seventy seven in night city and they each have their own field. So this was called Pacifica. And it was like a meant to be a resort town that went bankrupt essentially. Yeah. All the money got pulled out. We're, we're banning this. And now it's just been kind of taken over by these gangs. The voodoo boys the food and bull is yes. Yeah. They singer Lee cool, and they had a much different vibe than the last gang we saw last year, which were very basically like almost cyborgs fully because they had had so many cybernetic implants on them. Yeah, no, this was all about hacking so and body modification. They're all like the bodybuilders. They all had like really weird Ripley muscles, the bodybuilders with the other ones, so animals voodoo hackers. And then the animals are like another rival faction in that area that are not normally there, but have been hired for a specific purpose. And the animals are all about body modification, and they're like the big muscle guys that honestly looked crowds. It was a little much for my personal. I think it was intentional. They looked like someone who's done Willie injections, and I, I love how they made the leader of the animals, the mini boss fight, the we saw at the very end of a demo like this beefy lady, what was her name or her name. Voodoo leaders name Berge. I don't remember what the animal's name. Sasquatch that was her name, Iran squad, ask, what she, she was massive like I've, I don't know how any physical person in the real world could get that big, but she them cyberpunk baby. You can do anything big as you want. Now the just looks better. And better, the more we see it I I'm happy that we got to see actual like the fighting the combat because last year, I was I preferred washers, just because you got to see more of the town and more like the character interactions really get that this year. But I mean I don't really need to see anymore thing. We have not mentioned, which is one of the wildest moments of the press conference Kiana Rio. Real estate. Okay. He came out on stage and was just like away. What like okay. So Kiana ruses character, Johnny silver, silver, silver-haired basically, like a cybernetic ghost in your brain is not real. And he'll just talk to them, like during the whole demo he was he would just pop up occasionally and say, like a one liner, and like speed corners, smoking fake cigarette. Yeah, I love the reveal of Kano on the XBox, and it was such a highlight. I think, you know, the memes heard round the world by this point. Everyone knows about canopy and involved in the game the way that they implemented him inside the game. It was really neat. And I think having an actor of his caliber in that game, I think is going to be a draw for people who may be weren't even thinking about cyber pong, right and going out. But I know Kiana Reeves, and then maybe that'll be somebody's gateway into playing awesome open world. RPG. Yeah. And then I also really love how they are, how they're doing like sort of character classes, but it's not you know, in a lot of other games, you'll, you'll pick your class and kind of go from there. And this one, you can really mix and match your skills depending on what sort of guns you wanna be using a lot or if you wanna hack things or if you're like, no, I'm just gonna go in guns, blazing, I'm gonna be as as possible. You really have a lot of freedom to play the way you want to, which is something that always really appeals to me know what really appeals to you. And that is the thing that I will be most interested to play around with me. Like what sort of odd specializations can do, so they had someone who was classified as a net runner, which is more of a hacking type. And then they had another Bill that was more. Forget exactly what they call that one. But it was it was the beefier like hulk smash kind assault class. Yeah. And so like the way you approach battles, be completely different ways runner might be a little bit more sneaky at hacking things from afar. So hacking turret to turn on the enemies or eventually, if you plug into the right place, you can hack the individuals and their Cybernetics and make them kill themselves. Kill each other like do all sorts of weird things or again, you can kind of go in more traditionally guns blazing my style right there. Yeah. Spray impre tankeea, bring it was interesting to see a lot of the ways that the game would also have choices that would sort of impact, what was going on. So if you win and more guns blazing this other agent wouldn't be alerted to the fact that you're even there if you are more of the, the hackery type the fact that you plug into this system means that he is alerted that you're there, there's a lot of little tiny things that will I assume branch out into something really interesting and meaningful. Yeah. Absolutely. I think it's classic RPG mechanic. Re imagined in a really fascinating way. And I mean spring twenty twenty just can't get here soon enough do so much I know like from, from January to, to may feels like it's just like packed with so many Christmas. We'll see how many slip and then we'll say. I'm realist. You are. That's hair. Should we talk about something that's coming out this year? Yeah. Let's see that, that was good summer good of these. Yes, good. It's her one day you stop you ours. Good is me. Are you done? Okay. So I got to play poke them on shield today. I don't know if I was playing sword or shield, I didn't say no. It was just like here's the thing. You're not playing the thing and the demos starts with you at the water gym. The gym leader is nessa, which sounds a lot like nest, which is like from earth, bound, well, I mean, no. Oh, that's what they're probably going for. I was thinking from earth. The. Clicking out. Anyway. I was wondering about that you get to the gym, and before you can actually get into the stadium itself where you have the crowds you have to go through a few trainers. You're there with me, you have to go through a few trainers solve a waterfall puzzled. It's very traditional poking, like all of the gyms that you go to you don't just walk up to the gym was like a little thing you have to do before you get there. And so it's a waterfall puzzle. You have it was a red blue and yellow, switch. And you had hit the switches, and make the waterfalls appear disappear, clear your path seeing into the stadium, and it was cool. But I noticed was that you have the trainers, and you can actually sneak past some of them and you have this thing called the focus meter. I'm not sure what the technical term is. But the screen kind of sorts closing in when you get more of the line of sight of trainers. And that's something that I'm super excited about that because I hate always being forced to fight trainers. Just some. You couldn't avoid, but it was, like, you successfully sneak Creston, this seek prompt issues. You have to stay far away and try to pull them. Yeah. Grow alone. I don't wanna fight your one. Poke him on. Yes. Get another one. People. I didn't make it over to the Nintendo booth Saturday. I was doing some cool stuff in a different part of the convention. So I'm just talking all this up like a magic. I was actually very do MAC, daddy up. I'm sure they'd be their fish. They go in the water. Yeah. Water, it's. Sponge, though, it may as well be. Good a spun. But at least be useful. Oh, just magic are, what are you gonna do about it? Now. Ardo stainton. I know it because dose dummy. I feel like we did I say it wrong now you're beautiful and perfect in every way. So then once you finish doing the thing with the trainers, then you move on. This was the part, I was like, oh, this is real you walk through a tunnel, and then slowly pans out and you're in the middle of the stadium, and you see the audience in there in the crowd, and they're cheering, and it's actually legit s- stadium. It's not like you're in a little tiny room like tenant surge. It felt really epic. It was like, wow. This is happening. I mean I know we poke them on. Let's go on the switch, but they have the next mainline polka mind series CNN on that screen. It looked so good. It was like this is actually happening. We're finally getting it and then we fought against nessa and, and we're not totally success. Issue here. I know. Yeah. Who's telling the truth timed out. So like technically we didn't lose or win. It just doesn't. Enough. I timed out that means you didn't beat it pass enough. We were busy like looking at all the cute new poke him on because they had yellow world's greatest. Yeah, the so yet. Working the party started with you had all of fifties. The main three new starters. You had Yam, which is the door -able electric Courtney a little heart on his, but it's a door. And then you had Lulu which is the sheep hokum on the shape bat. Oh, she's actually pretty good. He doesn't wanna slam and it did a lot of damage. I mean granted it hurts. She is. She I think normal normal, plus maybe. And he has tackled cotton. Cotton's knows not. No. Arbia thing. You get into the gym leader. Nestle just looks absolutely musing. There's already some great 'cause plays out there looks so bit. I love a costly community and her. I poke him on was a golden, which was like, okay. That's your water. I get it. But Golding like yeah, you could probably pick somebody else. But that, that being said that goal dean managed to take out a little emperors wasn't. No. It was the other somebody it was the dreadnought member. He Dynamex other than right? You used up the we used up our anchors electric type pros electric, so they're strong against the water. So we wanted to bring him out at least one of the Dynamex cork, because like the other things no one cares. So then you will the Dynamex just when it just gets it gets, it's really cool. Like I, I was really excited about this. Oh, look how big little corgi boy is. He's like little tail and I'm like. So happy. And he's massive like it would be if we had a giant Corky over there at the Microsoft theater that size and it was just hanging out being like Hello. And then the other one he she came in and Dynamex her Pok Mon, which was the dreadnought the dreaded Dynamex you poke them on their skills changed slightly. Or maybe they're totally overhauled. I'm not sure but he did have a lot more powerful skills, and it lasts three turns. And then if you decide to switch out your Pokemon while they're in middle of Dynamex, you lose it. So it's like you just gotta take advantage of it for us. Yeah. So we Dynamex are yet. And then we electric we electrified the arena and we totally overkill the golden it turned into, like fish sticks. Yeah. And it was lovely and then she brought out this, big dreadnought, which is that new poke him on that we've seen, it's kind of like Dragani dinosaur looking very big. He's water rocked hurdle. That's like like a snapper. Yeah. And then she Dynamex him and then he started. Why water guys all screwed up everyone in the party. I was just like throw out the people who are going to die anyway. Like score bunny. Get out there. Go ahead. You're flat, or we're not them. Yeah. Got to be in the vanguard. It was score buddy. Yeah. It was scored buddy. I had to leave to get to my fantasy point. So I left the fight and sign I tried. I tempted attempted to save us. But again, the time ran out, so I did what it could be another attempt you guys will be able to recreate you're better party than that, because they didn't have. I mean you don't bring. Jim, you know it's fine. But no. I mean it looked great. And it was really cool. You know it was it was. But does actually happen. We have this game on this wish in a looked great. And it was fun to play. I can't wait to get into the wild areas. You know, do the free roaming, and do that kind of stuff. I really reenergized about I was like I'm still about Pok Mon again. And I wanna play this game. And I wanna get sword because I want the cute. Those are the two legendary is cool. You're okay we can talk about something that, you know anything about. Pokemon goes over my head that I can talk about how cute pitchy is all day long. But that's about it. You will love you emperors. He's cute. But this is why you guys went to go get hands on with us. Not me. I'll link's awakening is really cute to shadow links Lincoln. Yes. I will absolutely agree with you super doorbell so many photos on social media about people taking photos of those little figurines ever given that. Well, we didn't get one we screwed up. Oh well, I guess you guys can still run over there and get it after Schorr just kidding. Don't, don't leave. Okay. So we have a couple more things to talk about. So mine laugh pick is one that I was apprehensive about. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie after the reveal I think a lot of us were apprehensive. So we all were really anxiously awaiting the reveal of marvels of injures. We got to see the screen media briefing on Monday night. I, of course, got the opportunity to work with the team from crystal dynamics marvel games at the three. Call Siham here. Three and so I got a lot more information. But where I really got excited about this game was in the behind closed. Doors demo. Tell me everything. Let me tell you. I am. It's so good for everybody who was here at three. The got to see it I feel bad for everybody out there. That's like I just wanted to game play because they showed such a great demo here in the behind closed doors figure. You guys know maybe heard me say, people who watch the show. I'm not really a black widow fan Dolly, like Irv never, really liked a character, maybe that's just because of the way that scholar Johann portrays earned the MC you I just kind of like never gravitated towards her. She just wasn't for me. Man has that changed watching what they did with black widow in Marvel's avengers, from crystal dynamics, of course, is the brand new original story that Marvel's overseen with crystal but it's crystals avengers game, which I thought is really a neat way to go and also like they have to go that way because the empty you ended right? Mike endgame really was like you know it's done in the tight end. Everything that's happening in the MC is its own thing. So I thought it was really smart of them to make an original story, and I think fans you know, to be a little offer of when it's something new, you never know if it's going to disappoint over. It's going to really make you feel incredible, and it's going to be awesome. And I think that obviously is going to be remains to be seen from a narrative perspective because we haven't seen very much. But going back to black widows game play. So what we got to see behind closed. Doors was essentially a longer drown out version of the trailer that they show. So you is well, so you could kind of understand how the gameplay would work, right? Exactly. So we get to see play from all five of injures that they announced we get to see some of the flight from iron man. We get to see Thor whip and Milner around the whole stuff. I was actually the least interesting to me because it's like he hopes Nash. Really balancing? A giant Barry liver in that's in that your speed a on the other stuff on my gosh. I'm having a, a blank here on the gut black. What it was the end of the demo. Yeah. So on the ship kept. Yes. That was his debut actually look super cool with the shield and like how I mean black widows, opposite way more acrobatic as a as an adventure. Then kept America is kept doing all these cool like in moves as he was anyway. Like, as he would throw the shield, it looks like it's going to be super fun from a combat perspective. But what I loved about black widow is that she's clearly like an assassin type character. And those types of combat situations that I usually gravitate towards when we're talking about a party mix of players, you are the tank, right hoax, man. Like playing rogue assassins, too. I also like playing those really nimble characters, and she just looked so fluid and the way that they were playing her her she could pull out her double pistols in using shoot. And then she could do these really cool like, moves where she could do like choke, hold on. And then her her special ability to remember what her specialize. I mean, she wouldn't visible at one point this, she cloaked like will. And I was like, oh shit. So I haven't seen any game play. So is it just you have your character? And then you have skills assigned a certain buttons. Yes. So they're like, essentially, like they were playing on a PlayStation controllers like triangles wear circle, and you can level up these characters individually in combat missions outside the main story, so what was great about being able to have so many opportunities to talk to the crystal dynamics team was, I got to Athens like what is this game? And so it's a single player campaign that has coop combat missions that are separate from the campaign. Okay. So. What I really loved about that is that it allows you to have this really cinematic narrative experience by yourself. But then you get to jump into op with your friends and really kind of become those superheroes that we've seen in the comics and on TV in the movies ears. It supports four player or a lot, cool in, so there's not going to be any duplication of heroes, because they didn't like the way it would be like, there are five, there's only one, there's only one hole shouldn't be four. Holt. Universes, multiples vitamin true. But like we're talking Marvel's avengers, though, this is not Spiderman so different. Which, by the way, I did ask them if we're gonna see spider-man's five-man across over because they mentioned, a place Asian partnership, and I was like. PS four is more Spiderman coming into morals banksia. You down. Right. And they just gave me this like wink. They didn't say no, you guys didn't say, yes. So. Confirm nor deny correct. And that was the same for Hawkeye as well. Neither confirm nor deny all all Bill Roseman said was we have more to share in the future. True believers are, so it was fun. We're getting close to the end of our time. Here's I don't wanna go into much more about Marvel's avengers. I'll have a lot more to say in our episode next week. 'cause we gotta get to our final tenth, cool thing y'all really loved egret, which was. Outer world from city and private division, clearly city in having a deep history RPG's and boy oh, boys, the demo that we saw obsidian at its finest about this game but actually see an inaction and seeing all the dialogue choices and seeing these things called companion, quest, and the humor. This is definitely one of my most intimated for next year. I am stoked. I be like we don't have enough time to discuss us, we'll probably have to push this to the next show, but there were so many little things. And we'll details that I loved, but number one being the humor, that's always in there. I was laughing lot during the two lots of puns. Indeed. Well, we'll just leave that as a teaser to let you guys know that we're going to be talking a lot more about the outer worlds in our episode next week because we all walked away from that demo going. Oh my gosh. I can't wait to play high. GO. But we are going to wrap our podcast here from e three twenty nineteen. We are so excited to be back here on the game spot sage at the bay station. What an amazing week of reveals what a pan tastic slate of games the come not only at the end of this year. But in the spring of twenty twenty I mean I don't know how I'm gonna have time to play these games. You're not know at least we have a nice sort of chill fall. I mean maybe there's some good stuff coming. I'm going to be playing a world for all of it. So it's okay. Put it in your calendar to over twenty fifth. Well, if you aren't familiar, we again, once again, what good games you can find our podcast on your favorite podcast app. You can watch that YouTube dot com slash what's good games. You could follow us on Twitter at what's good underscore games. And of course you could find a streaming over at twist TV slash. What's good games? Please do hit that subscribe button, it really helps us out a lot. 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Xbox Series X Coming Nov. 2020 - Ep. 182

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Xbox Series X Coming Nov. 2020 - Ep. 182

"What's good everybody and welcome to another episode of the what's Good Games podcasts your source for video news commentary analysis, and funny stuff every Friday coming up on today's show we're going to be chatting about Halo Infinite and the release date for the xbox series x that we're business that's happening with controls nexgen upgrade new features coming to to and more. I'm Andrea Rene joined by Miss Christine Steimer Hello Miss Brittany bromberger bacher low and special guest Rebecca Valentine's here. How Rebecca is the senior staff writer at Games Industry B- Dot Biz you may have seen her gallivanting around the internet or maybe on one of my favorite news shows kind of funny games daily. You've made a couple of appearances over there, but you were just recently covering gt online is that correct? That is correct. Nice. So we realized that we didn't actually do really any coverage of what happened with GDP online last week. I, don't know if it's because just like nobody was talking about it or if just not as much interesting stuff with happening, I'm just trying to figure out why nobody GDP online kind of went went in. Went exactly what I was trying to say. But did you find some interesting stuff happening I? Did you basically just hit the nail on the head? So? DC Summer Jesus normally back in late March or so and they kind of had a little bit of a DDC digitally back then when they had to postpone it. But it was it was just some talks that kind of would have been there but then weren't, and then they moved all the rest of the talks plus some others into last week and the talks are good and we're a business site we cover industry news and industry things like that. So the talks are always good for GDP is the big event that we cover every year but. Normally at GDP apples there and Google's there, and Microsoft might be there and there's a bunch of big companies. They're usually making of big tech announcements like maybe this year we would have heard some next gen stuff or something like that but I think. Because ended up just being all online and because it got moved. So late and because there's not really any point for Microsoft to do a presentation online for GDP when they can just do one anytime they want on their own channel. Most of the big names sorta fled. So there were a lot of really good industry talks if that's the thing that you're very interested in, but if you're looking for big news Enough I feel like that's what GDP is actually known for in the industry is the developer talks the individual tracks that people go to really share knowledge and insights a lot of post mortems, things like that and I really love kind of being a fly on the wall and some of those situations where you're going in and listening about a lot of parts of the industry that we as members of the media don't really get access to right like I feel GDS's one of the few shows were you kind of get to see how the soft made for lack of a better phrase? Good yes, absolutely. Yeah. It's it's really cool. It's really cool insight. It's also just really fun. It's really fun networking because all the developers of they're all the publishers of they're all talking to each other they're. Roaming, around and talking shop and you sort of get those little glimpses and those little insights, his connections in it's really really cool and exciting and in a different way than something like passer three is exciting. But yeah, just not it just didn't happen because of everything and so it was it was fine at the good but yeah. Well, I guess if you want to check out those talks, a lot of them are available on the website, and of course, you can check out Rebecca's coverage at games industry. Dot. Biz. We're, GONNA chat more with Rebecca about everything that she does and take your questions. Since lots of did right into what's called games dot com slash deirdre UGG which is how you can be part of the show. You could also be part of the show by sponsoring us at Patriotair Dot com slash. What's good games like our Patriot producers for the month. Of August is Godson. 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Amen to that Ichi go gopher life when two three, the drew sers fixed piano an outcast three sixteen. Thank you all so much. We say almost every week but this really does help us in the algorithms and it helps people discover our show so we can introduce them to the funny stuff. Thank you. Exactly. Everybody needs some funny seven their life particularly right now. All right everybody before we get into the news, I want to say that this week's episode of what's Games is brought to you by bespoke post fair gun and Omaha steaks. But we're GONNA talk more about those folks. Later our first story is all about that big delay where are the tissues because master chief is said Long. I mean, we would never know I don't know. Her Helmet. No one can see it. Yes true pro tips, master chief to you. You need to like have cry cry, and then you need to go to work helmets get get a helmet. Does it for him probably like soaks up this tears or something and recycles them agree purposes or yeah probably hydrates him. You know we don't know how those spartans are really deep lore about the suit that people keep putting on twitter I. Don't understand it. I tried the saline injections going up. So a case you missed it. Halo Infinite has been delayed until twenty, twenty, one or Britney. I believe you got this right up from games industry dot Biz who wrote it? BECA Valentine wrote it. Who could say? Do. You want to read it. Would you like to own story? We've never had anybody her own story on the show police do this for us. Do you want me to read these bullet-point Here's? Like to paraphrase your article. Is Clubs anyone asked you to do this before Oh. Yeah. Okay, cool yeah. Halo infinite previously intended to be a key exclusive console launch title for the xbox XS holiday has been deleted twenty twenty one. Twitter announcement. Early earlier this week, I don't even what days it I don't know developer three, four, three industries attributed the delay to multiple factors including the ongoing Kubat related impacts of. All this year. Studio head Christly wrote the announcement. The delay was necessary quote to ensure the team has adequate time to deliver a halo deemed experience that meets our vision in quote. In a post dropped at the same time on xbox wire, Microsoft acknowledged the delay while placing focus instead on the consuls backward compatibility at launch, as well as the over one hundred titles that are being optimized for the series acts. And then. Way Some old stuff on your new Clue, the full statement do you guys care to read the full statement or should we just I? Don't think that's necessary for the full statement I think we all know that Kobe. Pandemic response has affected everybody in the world and. Three four three is no stranger to that and I think that we all agree that it's a bummer. But as many people wrote on social media, they should take the time that they need and take care of their team and make sure not only is their team safe and healthy. But also that they're not going to be into a forest crunch to make a holiday launch in a year where. They launch really even matter. What is Interesting to see. Yeah. Yeah. I do think the real trouble with this though and something that we haven't really heard anybody talk about publicly is that this is actually going to be quite devastating for xbox and I know that some people don't agree with me. I was chatting about that on my stream a little bit when I was streaming today. This to me is a really big blow to them for holiday and selling hardware in this year. Now, we've already talked extensively on the show before about how launched lineups are never really as Flash Lee as we like them to be in. If you look historically at launch lineups, they're kind of like like A. Wet Blanket moment usually, there's like one big standout title that everyone's like. This is the one thing, but there's not like a robust slate of games they come out in a launch year they usually come out in the following year and then the several years after. So I do think though like head to head sales, this is going to be a pretty big blow for xbox series acts because things Sony so far has maintained that their first parties are on track and that I think even just spiderman miles paralysis going to be a big lift for PS five but. To Ratchet clincal some work. Yeah I totally forgot that that's also holiday twenty twenty and bug snacks. Oh My. God. The holidays twenty clearly it's snacks I mean We'll get the bug snacks. Console. Special Edition. Beautiful. It'll be like joy go on the switch, but they're shaped like the strawberries and they just slide. Oh, that would be so cool. I would buy that but like to echo what you guys are all saying I agree I think when it comes down to you launch the. Launch Halo, works no absolutely not because you have so much more to lose like. Halo will come eventually and when it does. That is what she said. Well, is it now it's not managing. Let's move on I. Don't want to go down that path. That would be kind of weird. Anyway, I'm trying to say is. Halo, there's so much riding on his hail fringe. We talked about that a lot on this show that if you launch a haloed, that's board that doesn't live up to the expectations it's going to do so much more damage I think than you the alternative and I think this is absolutely the right call obviously for the health of the team first and foremost but also secondly, because of what's writing on this release in terms of halo if this doesn't. Leave live up to expectations. Then what does Microsoft has a cooler flagship title? Anyway you know. So what do you got you can't have halo. You don't have master chief crying in his suit and repurposing water for hydration. A fable right is definitely at least two to three years away. I think we can safely say. Know what's happening with fears clearly that that team is probably gone to ground to work on whatever's happening with gear six or anything else that they're working on we had gears tactics earlier this year. But really I think the question that I would love to hear answered and I don't know if we're ever going to get an answer is what was going on internally at three four three that they didn't have this figured out before this big flashy announcing that they didn't. July right. So xbox made a big showing of trotting out halo infinite and three four three at their xbox games showcase that we covered and. I have to believe that three or four three new that day they were going to slip holiday why xbox didn't take the time to either delay the showcase or at that time to communicate that this game is not coming holiday I I don't know I don't know why they didn't just do then because that was just weeks ago wasn't like it was months ago. It's the head scratcher on multiple points. There's that one, and then for me, this has been in development for a very long time and it is a cove it happened. But like I, feel like this game should have been mostly complete by that point. So to me I'm just a little bit confused like there's clearly some turmoil happening at the studio but. As what it is feeling, the problem goes beyond just three four, three right because Microsoft has made this big show over the last several years of acquiring just about a gazillion studios I mean they've just got like this whole big basket of new studios and the vast majority of a few of them have come out with releases sense. But like the vast majority of them have not released anything because Microsoft acquired them another sitting here, tinkering and working on things and you see like little glimpses, right? Like we've seen held laid to we saw a ton of things from obsidian. Obsidian just finished something else but they've got like this big basket of things that they're working on and I think we all just sort of expected that Oh, they're all just sort of sitting on their stuff right now waiting for the end of the consul generation and it lost they're just gonNA come as delivery of new titles, and then like nobody's got anything, it's very weird and I think I think at any other year it would have been I, still think it's not going to be great for Microsoft I think in any other year, it would've been really devastating for them I think it's. covid nineteen is extremely bad I think that the sort of unintended accidental effect here is that on the console launch is that fewer people are going to buy consuls regardless of what software is going to be on them at the end of the year like it wouldn't matter who had a flagship title people just broadly have less money to spend on big expensive technology, and so it seems more likely that. Whenever things sort of settled back down that will be when people start looking at the next generation of consoles, and so if Microsoft can get their act together in terms of good blake exclusive software by then then the probably have an okay time maybe but like I think that if that was not going on right now Sony with even just like one game or two games automatically in a better position. Yeah. So you think about what do we have at launch with Xbox like what is there? That would entice someone right now to pick an xbox over other party place party, Y'all third party, right. So what would be that? Their marketing, cyberpunk for me. Personally I got my Yakuza lack of dragon come into that bad boy or maybe he's because that's critical Hala I think is a big is a big title and a big win for them to right. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. But couldn't somebody to get that on a playstation five And you can get all the parties right again I do wonder if they will announce something closer to release date for game pass where there are lot of these upcoming third party titles that will launch on game pass which and not not just one like it can't just be one game at Kent like just cyberpunk or whatever. It has to be like several to make it valuable to people but I think if. You're coming the Holiday Inn like all five big holiday titles on Xbox Game Pass and you could buy a consulate of subscription and you have confidence that more things are going to going to be coming along the way and maybe you like the tack behind Xbox maybe into x cloud or whatever is going on maybe that's enticing enough. Yeah. So there's always the US that we have. We'll maybe we'll get this. Yeah, I. Mean you give it an attractive price point you bundle it with some game pass and you. Tout the fact that it's the most powerful consul. Might Work on some folks, but it's going to be interesting to see how the marketing changes for this game going forward because now you can't lean on Mr Mr Chief I. Wouldn't I wouldn't marketed as the most powerful console only because I don't think that's a selling point for most people disappointed I think to Rebecca's point earlier it's like it's more about value and if they're going to add in third parties, that's when you as a family like or who are going to make a console decision. You'd be like Wow holy crap. I can. Yes. The consoles are going to be expensive. But if I can just get this subscription service and whatever it feels a little bit less daunting than buying tour three, sixty dollars games all at once. That's where they could potentially. Yeah, my point was more. It's just an attractive little marketing bullet that you could stick on there that someone might be like, wow, what a good purchase I make those powerful. Me Educated I'm making such a choice yes. Yes. It's true I mean they have been they have been pushing that. Very. Heavily, the powerful council I mean they say it constantly and it's like sure it's technically true but like the sliver of difference is probably not worth splitting hairs over at this point. But speaking of the most powerful console, the xbox series x has been confirmed question-mark for November. Release Window and launch lineup plans of Ben revealed. So it's interesting that been revealed or leaked. I. So it started with a leak, right so it started with these controller videos that we saw that we talked about what could live on Monday where people were buying xbox series x controllers on a variety of online marketplaces. Like why do I have is how can I get this? This is kind of crazy that these are in the wild, and then some tipsters have been showing marketing materials that say do not open until November six twenty twenty. So after that came out I'm still looking for the exact source of this and I didn't see this source in this article this. This new of the source of the confirmation Oh, the confirmation was from the exact same blog post from the halo infinite announcement, the xbox waterbeds. So I'm not a confirmation from Xbox xbox it's actually confirm it. It's a combination of November. It's a confirmation of November six November. Yes. Got It. Okay so I mean surprising no one. Microsoft has confirmed that November will be the launch. For their brand new. Awful. Okay I'm glad that I'm glad that you made that clarification because when I saw. Like making this headline I was like wait a minute. Is it November six at they're confirming or just? November. But I think we all pegged November to be. Sued. Microsoft accidentally leaked it like months ago. There was a weird thing on the official website for the xbox series X. It was one of the international flights for it and it was like an English but it's one of the international sites and it was a piece of art like not just not just someone tight play Typo in a press release or something like it was a piece designed official art on an official xbox series x website that said Thanksgiving twenty, I remember that. Like Poland down and they're like, no, no, it's not real. It's fake it was an accident. You you paid somebody to make that art. I don't know if that's true like they might have bumped it back earlier but at some point they were thinking thanksgiving. Twenty twenty it's very funny. So yeah, paying for. Funding head. Nice thing we have a question for Patriot community ladies from huseband challenger just a really cute name. Hello Ladies. Do you think not having a flagship title at launch will make Microsoft willing to take an even bigger hit on console to undercut Sony by taking. By undercutting Sony more than they would have. Potentially you mean, they historically have done that in the past I think if you look at the three sixteen of he has three era that was very obvious that the big price difference between those systems. So they could absolutely because they have a cheaper box, it incentivizes people to pay for the ultimate subscription to gain that fifteen dollars a month that includes PC and the upcoming project x cloud. Service right and just as a refresher, the breakdown of what players can expect from series x before the end of the year four software more than fifty new games planned across generations optimize for series act including assassins, Mahala dirt five gears, tactics, Yakuza like a dragon watchdogs legion with smart delivery you only have to buy these games wants to play the best versions for your little accruals generation. Marketing Dirk and also, of course, includes xbox game pass in their marketing materials which have games like the medium scorn tetris effect connected and more plus more than forty popular games newly optimized to take advantage of the series x such as destiny to orient the will of the wisps Forza horizon four gears five, Manan nfl twenty, one and more. So obviously as a die-hard destiny player I will be playing destiny on my new console but sadly, it will not be on the series until cross play is implemented hopefully sometime in twenty twenty one. Just want to pour it out for xbox had a hell of a couple of weeks there. Halo showing in great that one toy retailer leak, their free multi-player, the apple ex cloud shenanigans. Now, the controllers like the apple thing is them though. S. Just. Not How hard it doesn't help. Now we got these new controllers and now Hale has been delayed. So Microsoft I drink to you. Good luck. Bruton forgotten speed. Feel like. Asleep xbox but. Let's. Let's leave Xbox Bios. Let's we don't have another story. No No, here's here's the thing I think we wanNA answer husband or challengers questions not having a flagship title launch will make Microsoft more willing to take an even bigger head I said I think that they would look doing that but maybe you disagree. Anybody, I am super interested to see 'cause now we have not one price battle about to happen but too because Sony has announced that they have an all digital console and Microsoft is leaked this X. Box series S. X. which we are presuming is going to be the all digital versions. Well, both of those again, we don't know prices but presumably going to be cheaper. So I think that the battle is going to be very interesting not just the highest price point but also lowest one and I think that it is possible that Microsoft is may be either willing to take a deeper cut on the expensive console as opposed to the works the physical discipline. To sort of like make up for that or give people a cheaper option or I think it is possible. They're willing to take a not take a deeper cut but basically like do some really fancy bundling gymnastics with game pass and. Whatever else to make it seem like an attractive proposition, but I mean most consoles are sold either a lost on loss or like right at break even so there's only so much everybody can discount their stuff. Yeah, and I think Microsoft an xbox just wants the ecosystem they want you to get you on those pretty pretty game subscription services. So yeah. I mean when it's a price. Business, we just need you in the living room. We just need to get in there. Let us leave you trail all your money trail of consoles, and then we'll like bombard you with a ballpit of game pass subscription. I do want them to not call it series S I want them to get away from us an ex because it's too difficult to other enunciate every time, and if it's going to be a digital edition, just call it series. D. That's it. No No. No. No, no no I love you. Sex Fox is better expert. Box, there's suss box. xbox sat addition. Edition there's added national canceled. There's a reason there's no longer making those but experts series d. i. mean we all know where the joke is with that. Look playstation as the only the only company that has proven itself consistently capable of naming calls. One, two, three, four five is not that part Nintendo. But everything before it intends she'll we the we you wake. What is all this three D. nobody can consoles except three s three deaths it's new three, D. S. new I can't keep up xl I can't keep up. Props Sony makes sense one, two, three, four, five, everything should. Like just be xbox one x digital vision, yeah xbox series digital. Naming conventions. Brain well, the way that Aaron. Greenberg. Talked about it when the xbox one ex came out and then they had the xbox one and then they had the digital is that he made a point it wasn't just him actually it was other members of it wasn't him honestly I'm getting incorrect. It was one of the gentlemen on the Harbour Marketing Team specifically who is talking about how naming conventions and other types of consumer electronics is has been in versions or additions for a longtime few look at like galaxy phones or the iphone or the note or whatever. Right there's Get to certain point I feel like it was just one through whatever for a while and then they were like, well, this is maybe a little ridiculous. Now, we'll start doing it. Right. But the real problem was when they transitioned from Xbox xbox three sixty, that's when they screwed themselves and now they're like, how do we walk this back I know xbox one it's the first one way it's actually not the first one now it's. A now's a series. Somebody somebody over there in the brand teams. God. Why? Just. Really. Start over. xbox only xbox. It's fucking. Just, GonNa have like this Meghan list of names possible feature xbox consoles, and they get progressively dumber and Dumber, and it's it's like naming windows. Microsoft. Windows very well either like ninety, five ninety. Whatever all. Lee. Vista. Seemed to go the resident evil row do the fun playoff of Roman channels? No. Call of duty black OPS for is. Oh. My Gosh I remember that such a pain in the blood. Any who thank you so much for your question no challenger. If you want to submit questions to the show, you can join Patriot dot com slash what's good games, and now let's hear a word from our first sponsor of the nights. bespoke post as we all settle into our new normal version of summer bespoke post is here with customized box of awesome collections guaranteed to upgrade your life I've talked to you guys a lot about how I love my new Home Office setup. 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Control Limits Free next-gen upgrades to its new forty dollars. Ultimate edition. This comes from the verge revenues control is getting a new thirty, nine, ninety, nine ultimate edition that bundles every update and bit of downloadable content has been released since the game originally launched in twenty nineteen, it will come out on August twenty seventh on scene for pc then on September tenth on the epic Game Store and both the PS for an xbox one digitally notably by this new consul version will serve as a ticket that grants free digital upgrade to the PS five or the xbox series x version via smart delivery when it becomes. Available that's great and all but unfortunately, that means people who bought the game when originally released won't get the same next-gen treatment according to publisher five Oh five games. The quote free upgrade path to expect series X N playstation. Five version of control is only available for control ultimate edition according to Fiji see Microsoft doesn't want publishers to charge for an upgrade suggesting that developers working on cross titles like controls. Ultimate edition should next Gen version available at no extra cost. That's what five or five games is technically doing by offering a new version of the twenty nineteen game but it's a move that grips early. But this is absolutely the wrong move. Why on Earth would anybody think that this is a good call especially when the platform holders like Oh don't do this. I'm trying to figure out is this and I I I play control I, love control I, played it on. So i. have just I played it and I love it and I did not pay attention to what happened on console and other places after that is the ultimate edition is it like? Better in some like qualitative way like is this like is there a technical explanation for this? I couldn't find anything all I found is that it's just the base game and the deal see bundled together for forty dollars and that's all. Already bought the first deal see. Yeah. So if you bought the season pass and again you're eighty five dollars in no. It definitely doesn't make sense and honestly if it had to do with. Technological upgrade. They can push an update to everybody who owns the license for the game and say, Hey, if you want to be able to upgrade your version and take your save with you because that's really why people want to upgrade. Then that's all they would need to do I. Don't I do not understand the logic of punishing people who supported you at launch by saying Oh. Cool. Thanks but we actually don't want to give you the same. Upgrade treatment that we're going to give people who buy the game now. This is the biggest head-scratching. Mobile phone carriers where you're like, Oh, you've been a customer we don't care. New here's a whole bunch of fun incentives for you pretty much, and it's hard to you and you have publishers like city project read saying that cyberpunk will be getting a free. Upgrade. Eventually ps five, an xbox series x and you have you know AC Valhalla and watchdogs also and not to mention you cousy like a dragon who are getting these upgrade paths. Now, it's a little confusing as to which teams are actually just GonNa. Make It. Here's the thing right. So if you're game comes to the next generation, you have to assume that it's going to have some sort of technical boost straight. Like I'm assuming I mean. Yeah. Like aw optimized for the new hardware but not necessarily but like even optimized for games that are coming out this year is like the biggest air quotes optimizes probably GONNA. Run almost exactly the same. They might have to do some architecture tweaking on the back end with the code. Because I don't, I don't have the knowledge to tell you how different the code is that they submit for xbox one versus xbox series x clearly it's going to be different in some way but is beyond my pay grade to know those. It'll feels very weird because this just came out a year ago. It feels weird that we're getting like this ultimate edition does not feel like dramatically like all the other stuff. Aside, it doesn't feel like dramatic. Why are they releasing an ultimate edition like when you? I? Mean I guess there's a cheaper way to get the game the deal sees, but like this is the. Ultimate edition is the kind of thing that I would expect them to announce sometime next year when the councils were have already been out for a little while when you know maybe maybe they have done maybe they haven't done a next gen upgrade maybe they have who knows. But like announce it next year when the concert out of the sort of hey, this is coming out of the next generation of consoles, and if you buy this, if you happen to have a ps four or something, you can also play it on that like it's the exact same announcement, but it feels more palatable in that sense. It's been like another year like it does it feel like you're training nickel and dime people to get on the next generation of consoles for right now it just feels why why why why. There's a work around for this. That's relatively easy in my mind is you give people the option in game to get to a splash screen where they can buy an ultimate upgrade. If for some reason, five 5:05 five refuses to do it for free, which again, you should do it for free. But if they are like well, we need to charge for the skew then charge something small like five dollars say if you bought the game in the deal see and you WanNa bring that game and replay it on your new console, it'll cost you five bucks to get in instead of forty dollars to get in. Right. You shouldn't have to rebuy everything that's ridiculous and they haven't done this either. The response from the community. Of course is expected. A lot of people are like the game is really great. It's worth the money I don't think people are disputing. Matt I. Think they're disputing the idea that you bought at once and you should have to you have to buy it again when a president has now been set by several large publishers by saying, we're not going to do that. We're going to make it easy for people to transition. Just we're going to be more consumer friendly and than they're just like today. Also such like if they had this and an additional something else for people who already like existing owners that'd be a much different announcement it'd be hey, if you've never played it, here's the also in addition and you'll also get a free upgrade and then ps if you already own it, it's whatever. But yeah, just feel like you buy this where you don't. Yeah. Look considering that the second deal see isn't even out yet. So people who did by the season pass they're like Yo. We're moved from a studio that like I think with control. Of being like people know about remedy but it feels kind of scrappy right? Like it was this game that like it punched way its weight and way above its budget and everyone was like droll control is so good at one a bunch of awards and it had like all this loyalty from people and I was like, yeah, I you know if you WanNa, play it on the. Screen. Well this is definitely. Imagine now I don't know for sure. So let me bloodied temper what I was about to say I have to believe that this is five or five decision that if you talk to the team at remedy that they don't want this for their fans for their community, they want people who bought the game to be able to play the game on next Gen consoles just the same way bias Asahara. On ps four I get to play it on PS five and not have to pay anything extra. You're probably like so like publishers are generally the ones who are making the egregious decisions when money is involved, it was interesting. One of the comments on this verge article somebody talking about. E as the shittiest and you've ea is doing stuff like. Oh. Yeah. They walked back there Matt and deal member. They said you can only upgrade between what was it January and March and the Whole year now. Back, he did. Yeah. Internet has spoken internationally. Five. Let's make prediction. Do you think five? Oh, five will walk this back as well. Yeah I feel like they have. Do they have to make some kind of concession for people who already bought the game? Particularly as you mentioned, Brit with that extra piece of DLC, that's part of the season pass that's already been bought by consumers that they haven't received yet like not allowing people to bring that with them to a new concept they want to upgrade is to me just not acceptable. Agreed I will be awaiting as as Rebecca. warned us there is a, there is a cat, a wildcat has appeared. Can what is your name? Her name is Robo. Her sister is Luca they're named after. Cronin. Oh So, cute. I would love in cats. We Love we love cats we love pets of all kinds here. What's could games you'll get, but obviously I'm partial to cats for obvious reasons. Okay moving on to the next story, the last part two has pushed update in it's adding in grounded difficulty, perma death mode, and more. So the playstation blog has a write up on this and I'm not going to go through. Everything in his post it is quite long. Have you always wanted to get all of the details of course you can head to the playstation blog on your own but some of the highlights if you will matthew galant, the lead systems designer at ninety dogs said, we've been preparing a new update for the last two which introduces new features and Gameplay modes, trophies, and more including the much requested return. Of, grounded difficulty best of all, it arrives now you're listening to this podcast is available at launched on August thirteenth for veteran. Last of US fans, Greta difficulty represents the ultimate test of skill. This difficulty raises the stakes but not only making enemies deadlier and ammo upgrade and crafting materials incredibly scarce but also removing in valuable tools for survival such as disabling listen mode deactivating elements of the Hud and more. And if you. If you want even more of a challenge, there's a brand new perma death mode with this custom mobile enabled. There are no second chances you must complete the entire game without dying or start over from the beginning. Cool. No. Thank you. I. I have not, I've not played either games. So I am talking out of my buddy here. It's not for me at all but from everything that I have read and everything that I've seen of those games, the fact that this is absolutely something for a group of people like there are people who love the though people who do this I cannot the game seems like just absolutely like heartbreaking and emotionally just just destructive enough I cannot imagine having already beaten it going back through and doing it again with death lake I can't fathom some people will do it and you what have. A great time everybody absolutely is funny. Oh sorry go ahead. No go ahead breath say because there is a little blurb in here for speed runners because apparently people like you run this game is this for a game for friends of the speed running community were also adding the ability to see playtime up to the second in the saves menu, making it easier to track and verify runs which I guess is it like something I think everyone appreciated when we were playing the last of US part? Too But yes. But for US fans here at what's good games of baby s baby mode there's something for us to every money because they're also debuted new unlikable game modifiers one shot touch of death that enables one hit kills or infinite ammo infinite crafting or infinite listen mode range. To add a new twist game play. All the modifiers can be accessed via the extras menu at unlocked completing the main game. So you do have to do like a new game plus run to unlock those. Things. So that is a little bit of a twist which I wish. They wouldn't have made that a caveat it's like if you want to give people the challenge and force them into permit death mode, they have to complete the game. Sure. That's cool. But to me invented crafting an AMMO, those seem like accessibility features that you could easily just add in at the beginning but not a dog. I'm not going to criticize you because you did a great job of with accessibility features in T- lieutenant. In our spoiler cast resident evil to something like that. Remember where I think was five dollars you could beideal too. Yeah. Yeah. You hit by infant health infinite AMMO the rocket launcher. I. Think that's a good staple going forward in these survival horror games because a lot of people just want experience the story and they don't want to be worrying about dying. My hot takes charge for it or do you think this is free? This is crazy but you have to play but you have to finish the game from start to finish rape but in resident evil, it was just something you could buy from the get-go I would rather use money than my time but honestly. Same. Everything easy mode like everything should absolutely not everything. Yes. Welcome to our baby s plan. Where fans we're fans of mode here too. But another thing I did want to mention that I think is a really neat and we I don't. I cannot recall a single game ever having added. This is the. Things that they added to change the look of the game in at t lou too. So this paragraph reads have you ever wondered what the last of US partout would look like as a cell shaded adventure or if it was made in retro eight bit era how about if it was black and white new are thriller or Sepia toned classic with this week update where adding nearly thirty new graphics rendering modes as well as several new audio modifiers to change the look and feel of the game and you added in a couple. Photo examples here and I have to tell you I don't know why somebody at Naughty dog decided it would be a good idea to take their fun nominal animation and artwork that their team worked tire tirelessly for years on and ask somebody to reduce it to eight bit. Backed like why on Earth would you do that I? If I was on the art team clearly somebody on the team that was a really cool idea. But with my work, the models that I rendered for years got reduced to this because someone's like I. Love Eight bit. You. Top One it looks like a telltale game. It does I think that's the cell shaded that'll. Be Fair that the problem with Tell Tale was not the art style, the animation. A still. Still. Telltale Games look great. Yes, but like the UNCANNY valley when it's in motion is a whole nother bitch. Obviously, we'll need to see this in in the wild to know exactly just how how this goes I have no doubt that by the time, the podcast series and you're listening to this that there will be many many examples out on the Internet that you can go take a look at or make one yourself if you're feeling like you want to make your own machine among. So yeah, that that happened. We have a few in case you missed its including some game delays. The first one is vampire. The masquerade bloodlines to it was laid to twenty twenty one due to the quality bar ambitions were sets. The development, the difficult decision that they need more time this the are we hear all the time good on you insert that Miyamoto quote that everyone is using this week for the xbox. Halo delay. The other game that's been delayed is dirt five, which was delayed a whole last week from October Ninth Twenty Twenty Two actual sixteenth twenty, twenty I, the question I have a question for the panel know what what is the point of delay in a game for a week like what can be accomplished in that week and that's a legitimate question. I. Don't know this kind of boggles my mind. A week is a weird one because Mike if it was a or something where they just like Oh. We fucked that up like oh I forgot to order the printing like I. Don't know. I also don't know what? On Earth. Would be done in a week unless they're just trying to get out of somebody. Else's when nobody I don't think there's anything marriage I have no idea in October. No I. almost everything's been pushed November. The best guess I have. A person who does not know the first thing about making Games is either they found like a bug that like breaks the game but they know they can fix that time period or like server things like they already like a month out, they have to pass certain certification. Bills so that it would it would be more of like a publishing delay. The actual game itself needs to be done and printed if you like distribution stuff. I mean but like a week though of. A month and that seems that's usually about what it is publishing thing where like a printing thing? We is just a weird one. It's. Seventy this reeks of like some weird executive having. My Kid's birthday is on October thirteenth can have. had a weird premonition or like got force and teller don't launch that week. Oh No, I guess we'll do the week after. I don't even them pushing it into like a new quarter or something like that would be the only other thing I could think of is if they wanted to go with a certain quarters financials instead of a quarter, but that doesn't count here either. So another one other one I thought. Maybe they know they need they need to delay it but they WANNA, get the game for the next Gen consoles come out. But even then that doesn't make any sense. I don't know that any of those interesting like good luck with your extra week. Yeah. To something with I. I don't know what it is. Whatever it is, and maybe they were like we just WanNa. Take a week off. So is there maybe there's some kind of holiday like. In Code. Code Masters. Aren't they. In the UK. Kinda UK holiday that weaken somebody just missed it could master survive a no reason for the small delay. This is from Gamespot, but did remind players that they can still play at three days early with the purchase of the amplified edition. As early as October thirteenth. High confusing. There's no. There's a there's no UK holiday those weeks there's no bank holiday. So this is some superstitious trip. That's what I'm looking. I guess. Thanksgiving in Canada. Yeah I just like Nah. Mark. Aggregates got bad juju marketed marketing my calendar and we will touch back on the like what happened on this day what premonition? Mood or some shit. What if it's? Let's what planets are going to be. In. Rotation Orrin power whatever the term is check the check the horoscope. Checked, we'll check that out go full cosmetology on this I'm into it. That's the only other explanation I. I can't think of anything I. Bet you. If we try to ask them, they'll just be like we're excited to bring the game one week later. Still Never. Actually. Your question on October? Third I think she said I don't see purchasing edition and you can play it on the thirteenth. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll find we'll revisit this in a few months. The Thirteenth Spooky. Now No. That note, we are going to wrap our new segment for this week. When we come back, we're GONNA talk about what we've been playing stick with us. We'll be right back. Andrea here a couple of quick announcements about what's happening at what's good games are Patriot streams of the month of August are happening at Saturday August twenty second time. TVD Be on the lookout at Patriot dot com slash games for all the details and if want to join us in our exclusive stream, you can check out our membership tier option over there. Don't forget on Monday that five PM at. Our streaming apologies to everybody who showed up expecting to watch halo combat involved and instead had to watch me suffer through severe technical problems. But the bonus was I got to play fog is again I I do crowns which we're going to talk about in the next segment and that's all I have for announcements. Now, we'll see guys in a minute. Everybody. 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Why there's some sexual tension here and I'm really sad You know okay I digress. So story of seasons of Middletown. So this is a farming farming simulator and it starts off with you get your. Dud Grandfather's rundown farm, and you have to bring it back up to speed basically every other harvest moon game that there was back in the day. So for those of you don't really yet so I don't know. Natsume owns the IP called Moon but exceed marvelous. They make the story of Seasons Games Essentially Harvest Moon. It's the same group of developers. It's a long confusing drama that I'm not going to bore you with I'm trying to say is if you played harvesting back in the day those developers no longer make harvest moon they make titles called story of seasons, which is why this one is called story of seasons friends of mineral town is a remake of the Gameboy advance game called harvest moon friends mineral town. But? Becca, you've played harvest moon before it, right? Yeah. I played a wonderful life that was the game cube ps two game I think. Yeah. Alpha played like one of the early ones to the game one is the one that I grew up with. Okay. So this is just a simple because it is. A remake of a Gameboy advance game it does have those. It's more simple than what you might be used to if you're used to playing like a star Devali type of game and that's okay. Some people really enjoy that. So essentially, you get this rundown farm and your whole goal is to build it up. You know you WANNA raise animals you have cows and sheep. You have chickens and rabbits, and you get llamas as well, and there's a whole variety of crops that you get every season because the game takes place over the course of four. Seasons. Each season is thirty days. Three to four seasons you get a year so on and so forth and you bring up speeds, you got the animals, you got the crops, and then he had the villagers that you have to woo or make them like you so to speak by giving them. Items every day talking to them every day. They'll eventually come around eventually like you and it's just it's a really relaxing cute game. That is a farming game. You're looking for something chill to relax with greats. A Say is that it's not the best farming game out there because there are some things that are a little too simplistic for me, but some people tend to really enjoy. So for example, there is very limited dialogue with townsfolk of this game. So while you do have that range of affection between each member of mineral town, they don't really have a lot of interesting things to say even when you beef up their affection towards you, they'll say the same thing over and over again, he'd better get used to it. There's limited customization in the sense that you don't get to choose where your chicken coop is where your barn is where you want to do your fields and you do have a big field but it's you can't really do anything with US ever use of the customization of starting valley like just. To that not being here, there is a lack of overall content. I would say the rival marriages have been taken out and if you know what I'm talking about great if you don't don't worry about it and there are festivals which are really nice but they're not very interactive and if you can't participate in a festival, the festival will just fade to black and it's like, okay, you're done go home and. It feels like a little bit of a step back from trio towns, which is the last story of CBS's game which was on the three S. it feels like trio towns had a lot more a lot more content and a lot more reason to keep plane. I'm about forty hours in. So about halfway through my second year and I'm kind of at a point where most everyone in town likes me right got the upgraded house where I can marry someone if I want but like I'm kind of playing field right now to see who I really want ultimately bang but. I find myself like well, what do I do now? What do I strive for? What's the point? So for that reason, I'm kind of tempered off plane it, but I was scouring the read it because I was curious how people perceive this game fans of the game and some people really liked the idea that it's so simple in that takes a lot of the grunt work out of out of it for you. For example, you WanNa have your cows and chickens all you have to ring a bell by the Barn and they come out by themselves. It's automatic in that sense. It gives you. An easy meter, it gives you a list of townsfolk and how much like how much they don't like you gives everyone's birthdays. So some people really like the simplicity of it some folks wish it was a little more in depth like me. But what else as I did spend forty hours with it and I have enjoyed my time with it has been the most perfect relax seen. Game that I think we all kind of need right now. So yeah, I was just picking it up. It's a good time. It's I think it's what we call it like I said all kind of it right now sit down Harvard turnips talk to some people. Some of the quality of life improves it's that are in this game able included same sex marriages, which was not in the original game, which is thank God because Karen my wife she likes to drink a lot and I'm excited to marry here. Surprise surprise. There are little accessing. Your items is really easy. So you don't have to constantly open up a menu swap items, opened menu items. It's all there in the patter in the right analog stick. So yeah. I would say it's a it's a remake of a game, but I'm excited to see what they do going forward with their next true installation in this series. Is kind of wild. How like? Starting. Valley, came out and basically gave everybody they want it. Every everybody was a fan of like harvest ministry seasons back in the day. Everything they possibly want out of a game like that. It's still getting updated like working on like one point five right now. But like it's been a couple of years and neither not today or marvelous has sort of risen to that yet is very easy to me. I mean, Nazi me like bless their hearts they harvest moon. So many times I have no faith I have no faith. Like. What they're doing going forward unfortunately of but yeah, exceeded marvelous. They're doing great stuff with this Ip and I hope you know like I was just saying that going forward they will live up to that starting valley because like you said, how does one person creates such a great game with much more depth and then you have these teams of people and they can't hold up but. I hear cats. It's I mean I think the answer to that. If you are a singular person, you have full creative control over what you WANNA do versus. The company with lots of other people people I don't know how they run either like some of the folks might have good ideas that are getting shut down or they're just not meshing well or whatever league. Hey. The more people you add to an equation sometimes worse things get. It's true, right? Yeah. But like I said, it's perfect for right now and it's very relaxing in Cathartic and there's no negativity in this game at all like you don't feed your animals. They don't get sick. They don't die. They just don't produce their milk or their eggs. It's just the nice thing. Someone gets mad at you. It's okay. Just realize you're safe and they won't get your. Oh, I thought you were going to say just give them an egg. His probably you can do that. But the also a nice thing about this is you can say the game whenever you want, which is something before it was more like, okay you got us. You can only save right before you go to bed. There's that moment of like anxiety when you brought to give someone turnip. I hope you like turn up and you give them the turn up in like fuck you I hate this get wrecked. And you feel bad but you can just load your save if that happens. To worry about. Like. I always hate it when there'd be like, why are you giving me this? It'd be like first of all, this is a gift. I've worked very hard for whatever this thing is that I'm giving. And you're just going to throw that back in my face death care for people who? Go Star nobody walks you carry. This is a weird deep cut, but I played a wonderful life on the Gamecube and it had the original friends and mineral talented had like this ability. You could connect the gameboy advance to there's like a cable or something connected to the Gamecube, and if you had story of Friends of Middletown and. Wonderful Life, you could connect them and you can turn them on the same time and in a wonderful life, there's like there's basically this main street that runs through town and it goes all the way through town, and then it goes up a mountain and you can't go up the mountain late doesn't do anything but if you have it connected, then you can go up the mountain and. I never owned the game. So I think you could go to mineral town like the game connected but then also characters from mineral town would come down the road and walk through your town and a wonderful life. If you had connected I never did it. But that's apparently what that was four and that's cool. Yeah and there's a merchant is banned in in your game is van the merchant. Yes, I think so yeah, he was the merchant and a wonderful life too, and he would walk back and forth between the towns up the mountain I think van was in there and that's the other thing too is vn yeah he is in there but he has a very limited role. Call us. That's always a fun to talk about harvest moon with someone who's played the harvest Moon Games before I'm sorry we've let you Dan Britney. You've played some harvest moon. How to not not. One of the ones I think I accidentally hit my horse at the Hammer. and. Those trying to hit the I was trying to hit the tree of the horses standing by the tree. And then it let me hit my horse and I was like, what first of all? Why would you let me hip horse? Hit the tree. They took that out of this one as well. So you can't accidentally hurt your animals and you can they should've mentioned this briefly customize your character is nothing like crazy but you can have a male or female character same-sex marriages, which is awesome and the ad they kinda stream Laden and took out a lot of those annoyances like you said you can't accidentally smacker horse the hammer because I have done that with animals, many times, and I always feel so bad but it's okay they don't know any better horse was just like why why Did it. Didn't mean to do it. I'm sorry but it's Time with an. PC, and switch, and I've been playing on switch and it's a perfect little switch game. Are you going to continue to get the wife of your dreams or you think you're going to move on? I think I think I need to Mary Lee some I need to get in at least once was someone. So I think what I'll do is marry someone and then I'll get knocked up and then. I'll probably call good and then I'll give my baby duo which and then started all over again get divorced. Why? Features starting with that was really funny Mary a which you can give your children to the witch if you're like I, don't want your. Kids that you can get rid of them do the which is like, then eat them or do they indoctrinate them what happens Fan theories that they turn them into crows. Oh making that up someone's GonNa. Listen to this and be like no that that's not true. I. Thank you for that Report Brittany I'm glad that you had a nice lovely relaxing time with it and How do you want to give away those codes you going to give them away on your twitter account on the? What's good a candy? Do you think about it yet or? TVD Okay. All right. Well, if you aren't following us at what's good underscore games on twitter, maybe want to go smash that follow button and also at Blonde nerd on twitter if you want to hear more about why foos and harvesting vegetables in video games. In video games because in real life Shalit's chicken wings. Chicken Wings Ninety eight percent chicken wings snow, take that back she's seventy percent whiskey and thirty percent. Yes that's accurate. I corrected Myself Okay Thanks Britney okay. Moving on Rebecca. You have been playing a game called among trees. Yeah. I actually just picked it up this morning it is it's on the game store. It's an access it's a survival game I do not normally like survival games because I am an anxious person and survival gear make me anxious because I'm always hungry or always dying or I've always bleeding or hot or too cold. There's just like something wrong literally at all times and so I'm just in this panic but the whole time and among trees only have only played it for an hour and a half so far but it is you you just wake up in this wilderness. There's not there's not really a story. There's like some environmental storytelling. There's not really like an explanation as to why you're there. and. There's just sort of some stuff littered around. There's some planks, some sticks new build a little cabin out of them. And then you just kind of left to sort of Rome and it gives you a difficulty opposite the beginning. So you can choose you could choose sort of the level of the hazard that the Wilderness has you can either all hazards off you can have like a normal level of hazards or you can make it like very dangerous. I just did normal. I think there's bears I haven't seen a bear yet, but I think there are bears that will kill you. So I'm. I'm very nervous about bears. There was a point when I was wondering around where I heard buzzing and it sounded like bees and I looked over is like a beehive in beehives mean bears I don't want to be near that leave and started walking away and then a little icon like popped up at the top of my screen and like some kind of like nervous music started playing and I looked around and I didn't see a bear but I got out of there and an icon win away in the music calm down like what was watching me bear was it like Look. Evil God like I don't know which in the would. Right. From starting valley alarming. But then there's also there's a difficulty option for just the game itself like easy. You can basically turn off all bears. All bad things. You can make it just about walking around in the woods and picking mulberries like if that's what you want, you can just do that. But then there's also like you can up the difficulty where you get like Hungary very quickly you get tired very quickly you have to forage for things and it's hard but I just did normal for everything I didn't play the baby mode this time and yeah, it's just it's very like open so far it's it's just this forest you can. You can find mushrooms You can find mulberries you can like pick up would and sticks and bits, and you can upgrade your cabin. I haven't quite gotten I've gotten really close to an upgrade I'm not quite there, yet you can upgrade it to like added kitchen where you can cook things There's like a crafting room you can make there's one of the room I can't what it is. But yet you go out in the woods new find things. It's very it's very pretty. It's very like it's very stylized. It's not like Super Realistic Graphics or anything epic sleep on twitter and it's just very. Like all kinds of fire watch. Yeah. It has a fire watch vibe but we excitement and I were taking a look at some of the game play that's available through this trailer and it has more of a subdued color Palette prior watching a very vibrant orange red yellow color Palette for a lot of obvious reasons. But this one feels a little bit more like Pastel e. Blues Yeah. It looks pretty the color. Palette looks great and it seems like people are enjoying that it's super chill Yup. It's very sheldon music very relaxing. It's just it's just like a walking in the woods game I don't know but there is. is in early access right now and I'm interested to see this is a game right now I feel I could play for a couple of hours more like there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of depth to it yet, but it's so early I think that there there's potential there because as as a why. It's very wilderness the, but there's like places where a tree is just like chop down. But if there's people out here like why would attribute like chop down or there's there's a spot kind of your cabin where there's like this weird metal structure that's like tipped over and then kind of an area of just dirt and a bunch of crates and a bunch of. Bits on the ground like bolts and wire and man very clearly like manmade things and there's all over the ground but there's not really an explanation for why they're there and there are no people around and it doesn't seem to be immediately dangerous like you get the supplies and you can use to upgrade your stuff but it looks like I can build an axe to open up the crates and some other lock picks and things. But it acts on a bear. I haven't met a Barry I will try if I. Know I won't trial. Rava. We're looking at the footage. The House that you can end building is like a mini mansion in the woods. You can build some. Things you would not be able to build it was visit. But if you can build your mini would. Like Lincoln Log Mansion. Why would you not be able to take on a bear like you could clearly build? Some sort of weapon that could take it on in my opinion. You can build an entire house you should be able to build something else. Presumably. It's just I. Don't know. It's very interesting to see like where it ends up going. I it's running a little bit rough like an okay gaming pc and it was it was a little bit rough. My my computer was spit not some hot air there for a little bit. It's it's got plenty of time and I think I think the ability to sort of just turn on all zen buttons. The the ability to turn off bears is really great good. I liked that I could turn the bears off. Scared of bears to bear to death and red. Damn. She did I mean Simar is is a bad ass bona fide. So the team behind this is F- Jr D. Interactive Fjord. Says we're a micro game studio settled in the deep forest away from society. Our goal is to create rich world with breathtaking art and immersive gameplay currently working on our first game titled Among Trees They the the Nordic countries where they. I'm it doesn't say like they're very we live in the woods don't worry about. Learner, very little game. Yeah, I guess. So I'm trying to see here if there's anything else. Oh Sweden Sephora. To make sense, there's a lot of trees. It's also it doesn't have except for like the beginning where you select the difficulty and then a couple like the names of the items it's very low on text. It's very visual like I think I think you could probably play this without having to read anything really like no known talk to there's no voice acting there's no quest it's sort of this romp not even a rob it's just sort of a stroll a gentle stroll in the woods I wanna I wanna I love cooking because I've got a million of these ruby beats and I can't eat them because they're beats I have to cook them, eat them out. Well well, not know that you could not eat be wrong. It's like eating potato raw tech. You can technically do it, but you aren't probably going to have a good time of it. Yeah. I don't eat a lot of beets. So now I enjoy. Delicious. Doing Acid last week I think you introduced me and I actually enjoyed them. I would childhood I am like. linked. trae injuries honey just try one for me. Oh my will and I did and I liked it. And then I was like see beats they're so good for you. Good Yeah. Pretty good. They are. They're so versatile and it's okay if you don't like them but I I am going to champion beat because they are great I do want to mention that if you guys are like, Hey, this game sounds familiar. Where did I hear about this before they showed it off during the PC gaming show earlier this year, which is like I was trying to place where I'd seen this game actually been live on the game store in early access for a couple of months now. So if you guys want to check it out, you can head over there and I. Guess. How much is it to get into early access? Do you remember I don't because I got it from epic? Yeah where we yeah. Well, thanks epic for sending the code over We will take a look I would guess it's probably somewhere between ten and twenty dollars would be. I guess that machine can tell us they could you know what I could do I could go to the epic game store Shit Dot Com and check it out which actually gives me a very good opportunity to let you know if you are a fan of the EPA game store and you want to support what's good Games we do have a creator code that you can use when you make purchases and they do specials from time to time where they actually give us a bump in how much of the percentage we get for referrals. So if you're planning to make a purchase on the EPA game store, you should use their creator code. What's games? And that would help support where we do here at the show. But for now I am looking up among tree. On the store and it is indeed nineteen, ninety nine. Cool and you also have been playing paper Mario Britney talked about the Origami King on the episode last week. Have you been enjoying your time with it? I finished it did you finish it? No I got so turned off by the combat that I know of it. Yes. Get Oh maybe like five hours or so I loved everything about it. I love the writing the charm. The humor is so cute. I hated hated the combat so I stopped do. Okay. So did you get world to? I don't even remember. All right. So one thing that I learned after beating the game apparently lake the you know the little mushroom house until town where you can like go. The tryout fighting apparently, there's a whole bunch of accessibility options like in that house or behind that house that basically trivialize combat if you hate it. Not, beat the Game Ted to why would you hide that? Matt. A weird thing why? Yeah you would think that they would. Give you a game prompt of, hey. If you want to customize your combat experience, go see towed over here or whatever like you walk in. Teach you hit stuff with a hammer on a do that for three hours now I don't need this left and I never came back. zagged yeah. Well, maybe I'll go back knowing that that's the case you can also give money to the toads and they'll do all the little Switzer Rooney's for right? Yeah I think, I, think one of the options. In the. because. I never did this I. beat the game but I think one of the options is basically to turn on a button basically gives it just does the root for you every single time automatically. Thank me. There's another one that will automatically extend the timer for you every time it gets low, you still pay the coins. Without. You haven't hit the button. That's something that should be available from the get go Nintendo have enough self awareness to know that this weird combat mechanic of yours is not for everyone and it's so off the beaten path that you know maybe you know don't don't put that on your game or if you're going to. Give us the option to get rid of it. Make it go far away. We don't like what you've done on. I loved it. I won't spoil it for Brit but I love it a lot the writing the writing that you liked so far. It only gets better that game. Hits kind of stride in world to it starts pulling out these big ridiculous set-pieces where like I'm sitting on my couch and like watching this sequence happen and I want to applaud at the end of it because they just did like some big show stopping ridiculous thing and like. And like it gets weirdly surprisingly emotional and I again, I, don't WanNa mess up in case you decide to go back to it but there's like a point in world at the beginning of world three where something happens and it comes out of nowhere and like breaks your heart into. Did, not see that coming and I. don't even know and ending is really emotional and it's pretty and I feel like the combat gets better as it goes on, I feel like they give you more reasons to engage with it. So I guess you hate it maybe that won't be so good. But I one of the criticisms I saw kind of going in is that This whole coin battle system or whatever it doesn't give. You enough reasons to engage with the combat like you Mazel to skip every battle and I thought that was true for like the first third of the game or so. But once I got deeper into it. I started eating coins for things and it actually mattered and so I started realizing, Oh, I need to actually engage with these systems and I love. I love the original paper, Mario, Games I. Love the idea of them I haven't I've played a little bit of thousand year door but not very much at all, and then I've also played the Mario Luigi Games I love the Mario Luigi Games like the very traditional RPG's stuff and Alpha dream shutdown I think last year or something. So we're not getting those anymore enlisted into gives it to someone else. It goods clear. We're not getting traditional paper Mario's anymore. So bummed out on behalf of the people who missed that like I think that the Mario Luigi Paper Mario Games the traditional RPG's were really good and it's sad that we're not really going to get anything like that again. But I also think the idea of approaching and RPG and saying, hey, turn based combat kind of grinding other people are doing it. We don't need to do that. How else can we? What else can we do with the idea of combat in a video game and instead of making it like a fight of some kind turning it into a puzzle in a very specific kind of puzzle, and then iterating on that puzzle continuously what I don't even know like forty hours long game. Oh. Thirty thirty I, might be exaggerating it felt really good. It felt like a good link to be. So yeah, I I liked the combat. The writing is great. It's absolutely hilarious. It's like emotional in places I didn't expect it to be I think it's deeply underrated and I think into kind of undersold it honestly, they just threw it out there and they're like, Super Mario. Is this the game they announced randomly via twitter post. Yes. That's right. Yeah. They did at such a disservice especially because like Nintendo was so I don't think they should. I mean I don't think people should like spoil the end of their game and their trailers obviously but they showed so little of it and they really I don't know it just there's a lot there and I I wish I wish it had gotten sort of better shot I'm happy to hear though about that towed house enrolled too because that actually makes me excited to go back because I told us at the beginning of the game. The battle in to- town it's like the battle trading centre whatever I just I don't know there's like articles about it. So I could talk article about it like three weeks after the game came out where was this three week? This nobody found it nobody had any idea. That's so good to know because I loved playing. It was so charming. I also had the same complaint that you mentioned where don't WanNa fight I'm like I don't want I don't care about frigging coins. And I didn't like the breakable items that I missed the X. P. gain but it's been good to hear you talk about it in that sense because now I know there, there might be hope for me after all because it was so funny I laughed so much just in the short time that did play it it gets it gets even funnier. There's so many dumb puns in that game. That's it's no. I think it's going to be one of those games that maybe people pick up and play later in the year when they maybe have a lull in their schedule of stuff that they're playing because then they'll paper Mario Games in general are kind of timeless that they don't. Really. Aged badly. So you could probably go back and play it whenever maybe look for on a sale around the holidays or something people missed it and want to check it out but. I loved thousand your door and was excited for this. But then I was watching John play it and the three aspects of it and so much more of how they have adapted. The Formula I was i. was I was with Brit that was I don't know if this is turning my crank the way I was hoping to but it's good to hear that you really enjoyed it. So I will put it back on my to do list on my switch when I can somehow managed to put animal crossing down. Ella, which we're going to talk about in the next segment. No Dory everybody. I'm not going to talk about my antics an animal crossing, but I do WanNa give thank you and shot it to everybody who came by my birthday stream and brought gifts during my animal crossing yard sale. It was very fun. I didn't get rid of nearly as many things as I wanted to maybe you guys have such extensive libraries of items. You just didn't need any of it. So I just sold it all to timmy and Tommy so. But thank you again to everybody who did come by. So for games that I have been playing the solstice of heroes started in destiny to this week and I'm not gonNA say too much about it because it's really not that different than what they've done in previous solstice years they've optimized a couple of quality of life things. I'm excited to chase the new glory armor I screamed at this week, and if you guys want to watch me stream that, of course, turn our twitch channel notifications on twitter dot TV slash what's good Games but I did get my first crowns and fog is ultimate knock. Which I was very excited about and Rebecca you've been playing fog is too. Yes. Very briefly kind of wedged in between the paper Mario in the beginning of among trees I've only played like an hour I am not. I'm I am nowhere near the crown. The great equalizer though I feel like that game, it doesn't matter if you're good earning I mean there's a couple of strategies that you can employ, of course. But so much of it is just raw chance and I kind of like that because it makes it feel that it's competitive but also not you don't feel as bad when you lose because you're like, well, it wasn't my fault that my teams did get all eggs in the basket and my team lost right yeah it's great. It's a game. There are several mini games lows I hate I hate the egg one I, hate the tail pulling hit the slime the tail knows zone but. But I love eating them I love eating them like. Frustrated like now. I gotTA. Do it again I gotTa win built. Good. Yeah slime climb was my nemesis but I finally. I conquered slime climb but that's one of the many games that is incredibly difficult to control if you're in the back of the pack at the beginning of the race. So as for people who are like what the heck are you even talking about if you've missed the phenomenon that is the battle royale is fog is ultimate knockout. There are sixty little bean characters that look like minions, but they have too little is and you can customize them a variety of ways, and you essentially are competing in a gauntlet of mini games to be the fall guy that makes it to the crown and they're called fog guys because your fall down. Is One of the primary mechanics in the game that you just fall over, and essentially the goal is does not fall down but you do you're going fall you're gonNA fall a lot. There's. Achievement that I got for falling I think a hundred times a single. which was wild to even me I was like I swear that many times but apparently I did or maybe it's ten times now Tennessee was reasonable. It seemed like more than ten times though, but I'll have to double check with the achievements. Are you know look up the trophy list but it's Super Fun and it's a great game to pick up. It's an all ages game. It's super colorful the team at media. Tron Media Tanaka's doing. A great job with kind of kicking new customizable things I love their social media team trying to get all of these fast food brands to compete against each other with WHO's going to get I like corporate customized skin in the game and some people come in are like don't want corporate skins and then a friend of mine named Kate was like I would pay good money to run as a hot cheeto and I was like. Yes this is. Like I feel like there's so many things you could be I feel like I. Think we did this. This is the one. Game Khalif Adam taste for yes. I. Think it was him. Yeah. Sorry. But he's like this is where the corporate sponsorship should be like it would be ridiculous and stupid and fun, and like this actually works really well. And I totally agree because I saw the mockups of like Colonel Sanders and I thought it was brilliant. I just I also like yeah. Go ahead put put ever get your corporate money just the let's go. Yeah. Support of small team right like this team. Is A team I think that people are rooting for because they made such a wholesome game we talked about it with Elise Williams on the Monday show when we should showed some of these corporate mockups that fans are doing and I. Even some of these corporations marketing teams doing please, can we have a piece of the Pie? And it's it's just great. It's great to see. You know they sold two million copies on steam. I have to imagine they're in the millions of downloads on playstation plus as well. Hopefully, they'll announce those numbers in in the future but congrats with that team if you haven't gotten a chance to check it out now fall guises, tons of fun. Yeah, and on that note, we're GonNa take our last break of the show. When we come back, we're going to bring it your questions to Rebecca. Valentine. What are you going to ask her about hit video games and writing about video games? Stick with US everybody we'll be right back. What get everybody welcome back. 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We had a reader mail question from will, and he made a comment saying that I think I'm going to leave my apple phone behind because of this ex- cloud base where Microsoft can't put project cloud on Xbox game pass on my Iowa's device. In so we asked will, would you mind expanding upon why this service would make you leave the Iowa's ecosystem behind and so will wrote us an email and I would like to read it very quickly. We'll ride good morning ladies. This will come from Patriot that's been the question of remark about leaving apple due to their strict anchor. anti-competitive practices specifically regarding in stadia not being allowed on their marketplace apple has done this for years. So this wasn't a shock, but when is enough enough I have been in the apple ecosystem for most of my life and you put some parentheses thirty eight, I've been a Gamer longer I. fully expect something to be worked out if nothing more for the US market which apple has forty seven percent but either way if this isn't resolved, this is now a purchase decision when it is time for me to. Get a new phone or tablet in parentheses again to surface book is a lot more attractive. Now, everyone has a straw in this one would be mine. Thank you for taking my question and all the. And all the continued content you are making their debut G- well, thank you well, and we discovered that will you are not allowed several people came out to show their support for this decision in leaving the IOS ecosystem in the face of what is happening with Apple. But I don't want to go down that rabbit hole because we've been there plenty of times over the last week instead I would like to go to some of your questions. For Rebecca and the first one is from Desmond Johnson, my teenage kids want to know who your favorite animal crossing villagers are I. Think it's more of a generic question for all of us but I know Rebecca you've been on a hunt for villagers and I want to know to doesn't it's okay if you're teenagers and you want to know there's no shame. If, you've already answered this question and we missed it. No worries listen I. Don't think we've had. We've answered this. I. Don't think. So either think. So Rebecca, who are your favorite villagers? Man. It's funny with animal crossing right because everyone has a soft spot for the villagers that were like their first, their first animal crossing game like. You're. GonNa say you're I in that game I was like, no, not true. Boy ended up with no. No. I started on wild world on the Diaz and I very specifically remember an extremely angry penguin name. Hopper. Who I love and he's just like furious all the time it is here. Like crazy. He's just he's so cute and in this really sweet little goat named Nan and those really to my I remember who my third one was but those to avoid a special place in my heart and I haven't seen them yet in New Horizons Oh, no NAM was on my island for a while. But then she said that she wanted to leave and go adventure and I said, I'm not gonNA hold you back. From. You Oh my gosh. No I never really hard. I didn't. Really. Really, not to be aggressive about trying to find specific villagers because I also think that some of the of animal crossing is meeting new ones and I really enjoy that like I've met a bunch of new villagers this time that I love so much a net lake a Mafi, who's the super goth sheep and she's So cute and adorable and She's great. And I've got like all these other ones island but I did get. So I always look miles tickets and gala nook miles points and nothing to do with them now because I put like four hundred hours in this game and I don't need anything anymore. But I I had a villager leave recently. And sucker lead actually I know a lot of people like soccer but he's he wasn't all that exciting for me even those cute it's I had to fill that spot and I went out looking for villagers on these miles islands and I like a list of like twenty or so villagers I'd be like, okay. If I see this one that will be held us all take them and I found on like my eight seventh or eighth try I found one of my most desired villagers for the last three. Games. Meringue the like dessert rhino she is this little pink rhinoceros she wears a little eligible cafe apron, her houses like decorated like a bakery she is a door but we Her and I'm in love. Rhino. Horn is. Very shortcake. Not to love. My. Every, she's mine. Now she lives in my island and she is just like absolute perfection I love her cell much. Never, going to leave another, let her well I also haven't logged in the animal crossing in a very long time, but I feel like even if I went and found somebody cooler, none of my nobody wants to leave my shit islands, but I want them to so badly. There's a certain amount of days that you have to wait between. villagers leaving, but you have to be to be logging in X. amount of days. It's not like real world days. It's in Game Day when you're active on your island and you'd have to look because they walk around like with thinking expression, you have to talk to them, and then they'll like maybe tell you they're really. This awful like. I don't know he's like a winter gorilla of kind named Hans who, Oh, I've seen Hans on other people's islands before pretentious I hate him every single time have any encounter with him he never wanted to leave. He's just like I'm so glad that I moved here to become best friends with you. Yeah he's like an abominable snowman. Looking. Invite man. Yeah I. Absolutely. Understand dislike of characters. That's how I felt when Boris moved to my island. He's a kind of a grumpy pig that has go super deep voice and as always we're over. And I'm like, Boris why are you always just in a bad mood? So I just kind of avoided him for a while but then he wrote me a message that was like, Hey Kiddo I'm sorry that I'm kind of a group sometimes we know that I'm always rooting for you and I hope we can be friends and I'm looking. Or Gio. Come trying to talk me and I run away from A. Had that release scary. Space. He's moving away because you just talk to them. But I want them to feel. Feel, isolated and alone what is wrong heath? From, me. Your. Name. cuter villagers sorry like the people that I really liked are all people that Goldfarb got on his island so Andrew Goldfarb Sucker Punch This. Really cute off guy named Fang and he would sit around and read and I'll secure. Just be my friend while I mean, there's a lot of villages that you can get from the AMOEBA cards now, which is, which is good. You can also go hunting for them. You can get some villagers on websites and There's a lot of different ways to get them, but Brittany. Say Something Oh? No the only one I had that I didn't like that creepy five minutes at Freddie's bear it looks like anyway. Yeah. Bears Name and remember her name but was so creepy about it is I was I would only play at night because that's what I did before bed and she'd always be walking on top of it like the top of the screen where looks around August uses creepy creepiest silhouette of this possess looking bear like lurking around my island and I said, Nope, like I literally saw playing when exit gave me flashbacks five at Friday's I can't do this and I can't play it whenever I saw her run the opposite direction Kinda like. But she still exists I. I have logged in months so I don't know hopefully she's gone. They don't leave without you. Without you said, yeah, they can't. They can't just leave the island without you're trapped. There Oh God. makes. Me Clinch thinking about she still lurking know. Yeah. My very first villager since this was my very first animal crossing was agnes the pig and she's super sweet. So she's a big sister type in the game. It also took me about two hundred hours of plane to discover that they're types. Villagers didn't understand that. But it makes sense. But she's great and I, really love her it. My other og coach just asked to leave yesterday and I said coach normally I wouldn't I wouldn't I didn't want you to go but he did admit that his house was getting just too messy and he's like it's easier if I just go it's easier just pick up everything move as. My House I was like Kosher. House is a hot mess. At the very beginning of the game I didn't know that there were like specific types of gifts that you should give your villagers just giving them just like random things, and so he's got like a hose reel. PLAYABLE SOFA and like like a praying mantis all. Our go to a junk lady be too. I didn't know any better. The Salad my house belongs in Hoarders. Changes in my. House. Just be like I. Don't really feel like cleanings just going to move the APP so I don't have to. I mean he he represents some of us. I feel you coach I get it. But I did get Raymond. He was like my fourth or fifth villager and this was way before I discovered like all the like the deep online communities of animal crossing in realizing that apparently, he was worth lots and lots of bells and people like Oh my God you have brave and I was like, yeah, he's. He's a cool cat why? He's impossible to get and I was like I. Don't know he just showed up one day. Just showed up. Do-. Yeah. But he's fun. The. Yeah. There's a lot of really cool characters. I'm excited to meet more. I really love looking at the way that they and customize their houses and all of the different ways they put furniture together I do wish they would allow you to catalog all the furniture of the villagers that move in i. kind of feel a little agree that they move in their Lebanon, your island rent-free they can't even be bothered to donate to the bridges and the inclines that I'm building all the time and they won't even let me get log their furniture. What the hell any who don't get me started I shouldn't talk more about animal crossing. This'll be the rest of the segment. We have lots of more questions for you rebecca like this one firm Groovy Muse do you have any advice on how to start freelancing in Games journalism? I have a degree in journalism but I don't have much experience covering video games take you I enjoy all the work you do. Thanks let's Nice. It's man it's hard on games. Journalism is a super. It's a super small field There are not a lot of fulltime jobs and you you have to be good but you walk there are a lot of people who were very good and you also have to be very lucky has to be like the right time and it's so hard for freelancing. There are ways to get started. The thing that I suggest is you want some kind of portfolio. So you said you have a degree in journalism if you're already working in something that's kind of gaming, Jason's like entertainment or tech. So close to that, already like doing journalism, it have published work out there. Then that might be enough to sort of like start going to websites that are looking for pitches and start pitching them at their emails to send them ideas for stories that you want to do There's lots of advice out there about how to pitch but if you have that portfolio than, that's one way to do it if you don't have a portfolio. That's close to games or just don't have any writing out there the bus it doesn't. I. Actually have a start like a medium blog or wordpress blog of your own and just start writing about games do the kind of writing that you WANNA do out there there are there are websites that are out there. That will prey on new games writers that will try to get you to do a lot of work for them for free and there are small sites that can't pay very much and that's fine like they're trying to buy unpatriotic sounds like they're doing their best. But there's also a lot of bigger sites out there that will ask for volunteer writers or for. Very low rates and you get your portfolio out there but you don't get paid and they can afford to pay or afford to pay you and so at that point is honestly better just to have your own little blogger, you're writing about the things that you want to write about. and. Then when you go to pitch to websites that are out there looking for pitches than you already have portfolio to show them and you can show the pay what my writing looks like. In terms of figuring out where to pitch again like it's kind of hard I would recommend following the websites that you like to read that you want to eventually pitch articles to follow them on twitter, follow them on social media, and then followed her editors on social media as well. The people who you would presumably pitch to. The best way to sort of find out that websites or accepting articles is to watch them on social media and wait for them to ask usually like a lot of places like pauline, PC, Gamer and. Places that will put out tweets every. So often especially when there's a big game that's just come out like they've done on fortnight, but they'll be like, hey, we're looking for people to write about X. The email you send it to here's a leak to our pitching guidelines, and then once you kind of know where to send pitches because you've seen something like that then you can do it again in the future and you already have that connection know how to do it. So that's that's kind of like the very broad like general advice I have it. It is hard is really competitive I think the last thing I would say is confined read read a lot of games writing read lots and lots of games reading read lots of different types of it. Criticism. Journalism read. Feature is read reluctance games writing and also read lots of things that are not games writing. That's how you get better at what you do and the more different kinds of things that you read. The better you will get at the kinds of things that you want to write. Off Fantastic advice. Certainly something. I would have said almost word for Rebecca. That was fantastic. I'm I would just like piggy back to say that if you have a specialty like if you have a beat that you should lean into it like if you love each sports for example or if you're really big specifically into farming sins or if you like this one developer, you know if you're gonNA start, your blog, make sure to include some of those pieces as well because more and more. Now we're seen segmentation happen instead of just general coverage because as Rebecca said, there are very few jobs that are available for full time writers and so freelancers generally get picked up for more of those fringe jobs that are specialty like A. Well I can't say what game we were playing this week but I was playing a game this week. Then I'm going to be able to talk about next week and it's a game that has. Some writers that are devoted to this particular franchise and. Getting to talk to some of those writers was really helpful for me as somebody who likes this game but doesn't follow this game religiously and those jobs are available particularly more in the freelance field. So I would look at games like that I think live service games in particular are some of those better games look for as well. So if there's like a live service that you like following, maybe look at becoming, you know a beat writer for that as well. That's. Great Question Groovy. Muse. Next question is from Lauren. Now, this question is for Indie Queen Rebecca it seems the Games media often piles onto big prestige triple A. releases like ghost of Sushi or the last of US partout. But indie game coverage is often really spotty or the Games trailers releases get mentioned but the games themselves never really played or discussed. What do you think would help the media give more indie games a chance, and do you think the situation is at least better now than it was five or so years ago? Man I'm going to be a downer. So hard honestly this like the. Answer for what would help get at least on the journalists inside what we get more into gives coverage is websites need more money like that's literally it like. It's easy to drag on websites for Oh, that thing click bait but like literally we need clicks to survive. Website. Games right. I don't exist unless people click on their articles and get ad revenue. It just doesn't happen and the fact is that like while yes, if you discover and indeed and happened to write about, it will get clicks and people will find it interesting. It will never ever get as many clicks as an article as a guide to how to find x thing in the last of us part to well like that is just the reality of it and The. Whole big topic you just about all day. But like the state of media in general in the State of Games journalism specifically is such that there is just like no money in it and by the late getting cut all over the place cove does not helping. And so when you have like not a whole lot of writers and not a whole lot of time and not a whole lot of money to pay those writers, then you end up basically only honing on the coverage that you have the time and energy to do, and that's GonNa be the coverage is going to keep your side alive. Now, there's a lot of sites that are trying to do as much coverage as possible like Andrew actually mentioned. In the last thing you could there are some indie games that are sort of coming up like. Starting Valley's a big one fog I suspect is going to be one that are going to sort of attracts people to write on this beats for longer periods of time, and that's really good. But there's a lot of games out there that just never get discovered in that way and I don't think it's better than it was five or so years ago because there's just less money in journalism and it's harder but I do think that the rise of streamers and video video people and just content creation in general is getting better and is helping indies. I I WANNA I wanNA advocate for written journalism because I want us to do more of that, and we should and that's super important. But I think that getting an Indie game discovered is easier if you can like connect with streamers now than it is because there's more value I'm not a super personally but my understanding is that there's more value streamers in finding games not necessarily other people are talking about because they can find sort of a corner to like fit into. And so there's there's like an opportunity there I guess again, a whole big brother thing but. I'm glad you brought that avenue I think the thing when it comes to streamers and why indies are becoming a bigger thing is because you have these dreamers who are extreme full-time, right? We're talking six days a week usually sometimes fi but usually anywhere from six to eight hours at a clip or more. That's a lot of content to fill, and if you're not playing games that take hours and hours and hours like Doda to for example. You're going to need games. You'RE GONNA run out of stuff to play. You can't just keep going back into your backlog. Your audience keeps coming back wants to see new stuff. Now, they do need to chase the trends for what's big on twitter. What's big on Youtube, game facebook game, whatever platform they're on, but sometimes I want to try something new and that's indies can really fill that gap say hey. It's a random Tuesday afternoon I wanNA play something before my raid crew gets on later. Why don't I just pop into this game for an hour or two and I think discover ability in that sense is really great but I couldn't agree with you more that while I want to say it's better than it was five years ago absolutely worse and part of that is not only that game is becoming. Increasingly funded which I'm glad you called attention to but also there are way more indie coming out than there ever have been before because the publishing tools of so much more accessible and it's impossible literally impossible to keep up when what games goes to a show like packs. For example, you know we get added to oppress list, and then we just get flooded with emails for games that are coming out. That we've never heard of from tease. We don't know and it's impossible to respond to everybody into play everything and that's just the reality of the situation. It's tough because you want to be able to find those gems. But as she said, you got to to a certain extent, chase the clicks a little bit, and hopefully find some balance when I started I N. we reviewed every single game that came out. In a month. Your God. We reviewed. Everything. Obviously, this is very long time ago. But. So yeah. That was just to the point of. It has changed a lot and obviously they do not do that anymore because. To your point and to record point, there's less funding for it, and so you need to maximize the amount of work you're doing for the clicks and then. The thing. Oh there's just too many of them now like. You would need such a big staff in order to make that happen would just be impossible. The most common email that i. get like just just like in terms of category of press release is Hey, we're launching. We're launching our kickstarter or kickstarter today. Can you cover it and I am so sorry, there are so many of you. As you might not get. I know the reason why you're reaching out to me is because you want me to cover it. So you can get more attention kick so that it will get funded but literally everyone else is doing the same thing at the exact same time as you and lake I do not have time to let no one has time to like sift through every single one of these and figure out. which ones of these it's so hard. It's I. Feel you I feel so bad I feel so bad because we get those a lot to new WANNA CD's hopes and dreams come to reality do. Right but remember that time where everyone was covering kickstarter because what was it caught? What game was it? That was? Fine double fined yes. No, it's not costume quest it was. The one with a wash would and I'm blinking. Broken broken age. Hold on I'm looking it up to the Google machine. Other she. But yeah, there was a time when I think covering and I mean certain kickstarter starters I'd never exhibited still but. Yeah now I know. Was the second one maybe now, there was two of the same game. small team. Program was broken into two thousand thirteen. Yes it also makes me miss like taxes and stuff because that was where I would go and I would go to like the Indy Bega booth, which is now on Haggis and like the indy mini mini booth even these little games that lake I probably never would have probably got an email about it somewhere. But like I might not ever really paid attention to it before and I can just walk around and he's a little glimpses of game and ended up picking up. Like. Twenty as they never would have heard of otherwise just from walking around and playing little bits of things some of the best clock games that I played with my husband Jason have. Been Indie. Games like that you do see like right now we're playing here's of Hammer Watch which is fucking phenomenal and Plan Hammer Watch, and plain. Oh, there's a few blinking on all the teams I remember memory like today but there's some really really good ones out there and how The bus. Wound me anyway. I digress going with that. You're talking about heroes of hammer watching playing co op, Indie Games, and how some of the best games you play cope with your husband or indies perfect sewer put a period on. Yeah Well I do want to tie this into the final question, which is from moon is high ladies Hi Rebecca Super Looking forward to hearing from Rebecca on the show my question every time I get into games like t lou or goes sushila everyone everyone's calling out. So today I, find them surprisingly conservative and I always find myself bouncing back to the creativity of indie games. What are some of the recent indie games you wish the triple eight industry took some lessons from in terms of pushing the medium forward. Going going back to like thinking about games I played like India megabits. Maybe it's hard right because if you're GONNA if people are going to invest like you know millions of dollars in making this big triple a game, they don't want to take risks like your investors don't want you to take risks. They know that like this is very typical action RPG or shooter formula like works, and they're not going to take risks, and so that's why we're going GONNA see the same thing over at our with maybe like one late tiny little risk lake stuck in over here probably intended it or something. So like there's so much more room in indies I think the thing that I think back to when I look at it easily I look at the verbs like what is the thing that I am doing in the game and it is so much more interesting when that verb is not run jump and shoot or stab, which is not like what does that like to like slam on violence and gives us this like I play mostly peaceful games but like I play I play games relate you'd shoot people or whatever to. But I love Games where the verb is something interesting. So there's a game I played at the. Mini Booth PATSIES before everything shut down this called Evergreen Blues and it is this little game where there's this cease to character sitting on stage and it's just then singing and I have no idea. There's there's like probably the there's like this whole thing about how they did the music but you basically just choose the lyrics that they sing as they go with like the keys on the keyboard and you like basically bring them into a duet together and that's the game it's just. These two characters singing and you can make their songs sad or hopeful or whatever. But that's the game and it's there's I think there's like five or six songs in the whole game. It's not very much. It's not very long, but it's it's free too but it's like incredible. It's just like why who thought of this like why this is not something I ever would've thought would be a game just making these two little to each other and sing about love and loss. It's so lovely and like I don't know I. Wish I wish we were doing more weird verbs I. wished like East Shade with my gave your last year in the urban that gave his paint. You just paint landscapes. That's what you do and it's like great and it feels so good and I i. don't know I. Want I want more games with weirder verbs with things? To do that are not like like four or five conventional things that we do in every single other video game I think I think that's where I look at indie games and try to figure out. Okay. Like what what here is, here's the thing that I really WanNa pay attention to what can I do in this world that I can't do unlike any other video game world. That's really cool. Reminds me of a game I played at the control delete booth at GTC, which is always one of my favorite booth at GDP, which is literally impossible to do virtually because it focuses on unconventional types of controllers, but there is a game called but sniffing plugs. That Had literally had like a like a fuzzy stuffed pug but like. By this. Custom fight. It wasn't quite a fight stick but it had buttons but there was a point where you had to like put your face like into the stuffed animal but. The show. Weird. But it was like so stupid and fun. That was like, how can you not walk away laughing from playing this game called? Books. So my God, you know so I appreciate. I appreciate the wacky weird. It's it's tough though. The risk taking is the tough part, right? You need balance you need to be able to get your game funded right? Like you need money to make a game, and if it's too risky than people who can give you money are going to be like it's not GonNa, make any money. So you kind of need there's inherently like some level of either trust already built like maybe you've shipped like a couple of really good games already it's the people out. We know you. You've already done good work give you money or you have to be basically entirely funded to do just really wild out there shit. Yeah. Thank helpfully, more publishers will take more risks. That's why I do really appreciate what epic has done and I know a lot of people harped on me back when it game store became a thing, everyone was very mad at epic but you know what they're doing is supporting publishers supporting developer supporting indies, and if you're looking for some, you know weird experiences advocate store Rebecca I wanna ask you real quick about this little project. I saw your twitter account held the cozy would kitchenette. You describe it as an upcoming comfy podcasts that combines video game inspired recipe. Cook alongs in conversations with the people who make in love games coming this fall. Yeah, that is credible. So. Yeah. I mean if you know if you know anything I do on twitter, you know that I somehow somehow ended up in this weird hobby of cooking through video game inspired cookbooks. I've already cooked the entire world of warcraft cookbook. I. Did the elder scrolls last year. Actually doing the mothers cookbook right now I haven't sitting right here. Yes. My PDF print out of it. I only have five recipes left and they're really hard. They're like the last one is making hand pulled cotton candy. It's ridiculous anyway. So I've done these legends cookbook for Legend's all over there waiting for me when I'm done. But I just stumbled into this world of video game food and I love it so much and I like I'm not good at coming up with recipes on my. Own like I'm not creative chef but I I like food I like video games and I like talking to people about those two things. So it's aiming for October I. Don't know exactly if it's going to pan out because I have a lot of prep to do but the plan is cozy with kitchenette probably GONNA release episode every two weeks, and it's just going to be audio video. Showing you how to make it but the idea is like kind of. Almost Bob Ross style like walk through a recipe of some kind that has some association with Video Games. So it might be something out of a cookbook in might just I'm GonNa, teach you how to make bread and we're GONNA talk about bread-making in this one video game where somebody making bread or something like that, and that's what's GonNa be it's GonNa. Be Like really chill I'm GonNa make it with you. We're going to take the whole time to make it. So I'm GonNa talk you through the ingredients and the recipe. But as I'm cooking, you know there's Times where like I'm going to be stirring you're going. To be waiting for something to heat up and you don't just want to sit there in silence. So during those breaks, I'm going to talk with either developers on the Games that are associated with the food that we're talking about or people who are in the game community who are really excited and passionate about that game or people who are very skilled knowledgeable about making that food who can talk about? Okay. Here's this like food that has a correlation in the real world. What does that say about the game that we're talking about So I've I've got some ideas I've got some people that I want to pitch. For guests early on but the idea is just like forty five minutes to an hour every two weeks you get a recipe, you get an association with a video game and get a chat with somebody who cares about that food that game al-Qaeda's sounds amazing. When you are ready to do the destiny cookbook, you give me a call. Let me. I've got it. I'm planning to do some of the cocktails in in that code. If you WANNA, make some those recipes. Let me know. Toria Rosenthal she's really good. Yeah. That is a phenomenal rabbi goes. Mother recipes. Man Yeah I'm they're they're good. They're so good. It's been really. I've learned a lot from this taught me how to make good burgers. I never knew I didn't know making good Burgers is this easy? Apparently it is. Yeah. Let's awesome. It's all behind you form those patties. GotTa do them the right way some cheese in their Cheese Well. Rebecca, thank you so much for joining us on this episode of what good gains it was a pleasure chatting with you and thank you to everybody who sent in questions. If People WanNA follow you. If they WANNA, follow what you're writing, where are the best places for people to do that? So, you can find me on twitter at Duck Valentine you can find. If you WANNA hang around in October and listen to some food podcasts. You can follow that at cozy would kitchen I think that's right. Actually I haven't had the plug that before out. On. All right someone. Cozy. Would kitchen yeah. That's what it is, and then you could find my work right about the business of video games, games industry his. All right. We will have all those links for you. Of course, in the show notes as per usual and thank you so much again for joining us and we will be back next week on Monday with what's good. Games. Live we'll see a later everybody by. added.

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The Fun of Getting Lost in RDR2 - What's Good Games (Ep. 78)

What's Good Games

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The Fun of Getting Lost in RDR2 - What's Good Games (Ep. 78)

"Okay. We're supposed to be recording right now are technically recording. We just can't. Let me with some of it, especially Britain dolphin that awful. It's a Turkey. But it's a team dolphin beaded. Tricky. Wow. You were just like. Just. You sound like real. Cacak? I mean, it is a bird. There's no Potter. Could be really good at Turkey, boys. Cheeky? What's good everybody? And welcome to another episode of the was good games podcasts. Your source for video game news analysis commentary and funny stuff you could have been here. Just a couple of seconds ago that it was. Let's good games. And my brain would like do you remember whenever we used to go? Commercials. Yes. My brain did that just like, oh, no. We just pretend like we were doing Turkey noises, literally five seconds that happened. Of course, you know, miss Christine. Steiner miss Brittany brumbach. And I'm Andrea Rene copying me. Yes. Okay. Welcome to another episode episode. Seventy eight of what's good games almost off Lear senior citizen, octa what? Is on your eighty. I don't this is a math question. I am not prepared to sounds right. Like an octopus hyphen octogenarian. I figure out what what it is. Well, we appreciate if you are here. Whether it's your seven eighth episode with us, or you're I thank you so much for listening to the show, and being part of our awesome community, a big shot out to all of our awesome. Patrons at patriotair dot com slash what's good games. When remind you that we've got our happy hour QNA four November where we have some cocktails and take your questions, sometimes a little too, honest. Every month, and that is for all levels of patrons. It's happening today at four PM Pacific time. I was like what? No, I know. But like, I just had a moment of. November ninth. Yes. Yeah. Dude. So hopefully, you guys will tune in. Of course, you guys can get that link over on patriot dot com slash what's could games and our good friends over at kind of funny have invited us to come by and talk about this X box Exo eighteen livestream. That's happening on Saturday November tenth at one PM Pacific time, we're gonna go live around twelve forty five PM Pacific time. So XBox has never really done something like this at their fan of before they have course have had fan of many times. But they said that they've got announcement. And they said they're talking about crackdown. Three. Yeah. I hope to God. We can't. The hot room, leasing gentleman. Three the leak is crackdown. Three providence. This has been leaked. So the thought is that they could be announcing in releasing the multi player on Saturday, and then a single player content is to come free to play multiplayer with the story campaign pay deal. See you think they're gonna drop off maleable. Now. That's that's what the rumors. That's what the kids are saying. I'm not gonna pretend like I know a hot piece of shit about crock down three, but I do like to pay attention to the children. And that's what they're saying. That seems like it would probably go against almost everything I know about XBox and their penchant for retail marketing. It would be curious if true I am looking forward to seeing what they talk about. Yeah. It'll be it'll be something. I think it's. In a moment for Microsoft's. Listen, Linda, I'm excited about it. Because I unlike anybody at kind of funny, I love you guys. But none of you are XBox fans. You either don't play on XBox at all or you only play if you have to. And so I think we're going to bring some much needed perspective into that stream of PlayStation, Nintendo, fan, boys. We do love him though. So hopefully, you guys will join us. It should be great. We are going to get into the news in just a moment because there's quite a bit to talk about this week. 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Jack, Jack, it's like Jack Daniels at the top hat dapper Chancey. Different kind of barrel. Let me double check. Yeah. His monocle, and like one of those petticoats, basically, it's more delicious than yours. Jack is actually called gentleman Jack. Yes, it is. Trip that was like a nickname that had been bestowed on it is used twice charcoal mellowed for smoothness twice mellowed. Mellowed. Okay. News news out. Oh blizzard. So as you guys know bliss happened last weekend right after the show published bliss con kicked off their opening ceremonies. So this news gonna feel super older. We're not gonna run down everything that happened to blues. Con-, you know, they got a new hot hero. They got a new overwatch hero heard about some stuff happening for warcraft reforge a bunch of other stuff. The big news. Of course, though. Don, don. Don, Don, yellow Boorda was the big news so much as the infamous news. Yeah. Yeah. Good way to put actually. So you guys might have heard that happened just wanted to get to kind of address that. I like the oldest news. We'll go to the current news. So just to kind of follow up on all that blizzard has also announced they're working mobile titles for all their IP's. So we know that blizzard had been teasing Diablo announcement for quite some time. We, of course, got through you turn collection on switch which just came out. We know that they had planned to talk about what we thought was deebo four at bliss con. But instead got the announcement of Diablo immortal, which is one hundred percent mobile title that they have no intention to bring to despite several people asking him at blues gone awkwardly about it in a lot of people got very upset that there was no Dow before official announcement and that the next yobbo install. Is going to be a mobile only title, and we talked about it. Well, I talked about at length on kind of any games daily earlier this week. I don't want to really get into any of that. Unless you to have some things that you would like to discuss about how all that went down. I mean, just to rehash it. Everyone said I think it was more of an expectation versus what was delivered problem. I think in this weird groundwork trading where as consumers, you know, you need to be able to voice her displeasure with something. Because that's how companies learned that. They're not happy with a certain thing. But it's just this weird area where it's what's the civil way to do this. And I don't know if we have the answer for that. Obviously, I would prefer that we lived in a world where you wouldn't embarrass people who work hard on this game. But I understand that. Maybe people don't know how they can voice their opinion. Maybe there aren't enough avenues where people can civilly address this problem. I mean, you can send e most your Buna face will reach the right people. Will anyone care as we've seen that the squeaky wheels? Get degrees. Right. Yeah. And that's a. I think that's the bad part about what sort of happened in the industry. I mean on one hand it's good in the sense that it helps the company's course. Correct. But it's also trained people to become so vitriolic when they are upset about something. Because that's the only way people seem to pay attention. So I understand why people behave that way because we have all been trained like data's what we have now learned as gamers is if I want to listen to me, or if I want activism to listen to me, if I want blizzards, listen to me, I need to be a dick like all of us need to all at what like an ocean ocean of Dick's. Yeah. I realize shipping. Did not anyway. But. I give up part. Okay. This. Shows. Was done. Sorry. I just had this anyway. But yet anyways that. Yeah. It's it's a complicated issue. You are both being much nicer than I was about this. And I got a lot of really terrible responses from people reaching out to me on social media for for mine. My my thing is I'm with you Britney in that there needs to be an avenue or a way for people to express their displeasure with you Steiner that. Clear that the way to get results is to be at asshole. And I think that's clear if you just think about customer service at large like if I am going to call up the cable company and be like, hey, I had this thing. I need you to help me if I'm nice about it. They probably would just be like, I'm sorry, ma'am. There's nothing we can do. But if I'm asshole about it. And I'm like, I must speak to your supervisor. And I've really mad, and blah, blah, blah, and I get angry on the phone. I have to yell then they give me the thing I want, and that's bad reinforcement. It's just it's a bummer that that's kind of how everything works, right? On one hand, you can't really blame the community for reacting the way they did. But in my mind, and what I was talking about earlier. It was like, I just don't think it's so unreasonable that the guy who walked up to the microphone who clearly was upset, and maybe did not know how to vocalise how upset he was about Diablo when he asked about April Fools joke. You could've deceased leave said, obviously, we all here were hoping to hear about Diablo four. Do you have any news? Can we talk about that? Right. Like, I mean, like Diablo immortal is not really like what we were looking for like one. Can we expect some news about this? I'm not saying blizzard was gonna give him an answer. They most likely going to be like this is what we're here to talk about today. But there was a way to ask that question without doing it the way he did. And there's a lot of people that reach out to me that said Andrea like I didn't think he was being a dick who's being he clearly was upset and emotional, and I was like just because you're upset in. Ocean doesn't give you the right to like shit over someone else. Just because you emotionally process your feelings that well, then maybe sit down like if you don't know how to vocalise what you're feeling yet. It's okay to take them. And like think about it before you say something that could potentially cause I hear what you're saying. Like, I feel I felt really bad for those developers because they did work on this game. And it was not their plan. And like, you're basically just throwing these guys into the into the lion's done and like phone. Yeah. Yeah. And and people reach out, and we're like what about with blizzard said about like, oh, don't you all have phones? I was like, yeah. They were backed into a corner where their audience was booing them. And they were on a live stream on stage at their biggest event of the year. So of course, if I was feeling defensive in my audience was attacking me. They don't have the opportunity to sit down and think about it. They are holding a microphone on stage in front of potentially millions of people watching on the internet. You know? And so he probably reacted the same way. A lot of us would if the work. That we had been working on for years. Was booed on stage. Right. Yeah. I can't even imagine what that was feel. It would be a world. I I mean, like, I can't even emotionally process at what you would feel it in your bones. I it would just like on stage for anything that you worked on. And that's the thing that I was trying to express and convey was like the lack of empathy for the human face of this. Those developers onstage did not make the call to announce their game the way that they did they don't even make the call to make the game. Now, it's not their job. And I wonder how. Make it. But not too of this comes down to people just simply not understanding how the industry works. You know, there might be people out there who just loved the Oslo, and they don't understand that. I mean, I'm taking this very very level that there is a huge company behind the executives are making these calls, and these people are just developers. You know, they're not like the people signing the papers and making the calls, and they just think like, hey, this is a target. This is someone who works for this company. I'm gonna voice my dispatch. Exactly. What's happening? Not thinking. It's people not empathizing. It's people is the base guttural reaction of humans. Right. I don't like thing. Do. I mean, that's what it is. And it just sucks that. That sucks. Those guys had to be on the receiving end of that. And I do understand why people were upset I think I think in general teasing is a bad idea. Don't do it just announced you thing. Yeah. Yes. Lizard, absolutely mismanaged the expectations. There we all agree. And the comparison I made was EA kind of mismanaging expectations about command and comb arrival during their EA EA play press conference, obviously, which I was a part of. And I think we also got the rumor report from Jason Trier over Kentucky that they were supposed to end with a Diablo fourteen. And then -posedly got pulled at the last minute because internally apparently they've been reiterating that game more than once. And so they decided that the game wasn't ready to even tease and then blizzard came back and said, no, that's not true. So tarp to know because Jason sources are usually not wrong. Now, I would argue that that makes the most sense. To me that they would be like oh shit. We need to plug something in here. Let's do a mortal. But then even still I would be like, you should just cut the segment like, yeah. Just don't don't do that to them. Right. Because you know that the expectations are here and you're delivering it's not like the game going to be bad. It's just not that audience. Right. It's just you're at the wrong place in the wrong time for this game. And don't hurt your game. Like like, you've just this game could have potentially come out in a different way and done just fine. And like people would be like, oh, all right. Not for me. But whatever moved along there Mary way. Let's save it for the very last. I think just kind of adds to that hype end in October blizzard did release a statement, basically saying timber your expectations. But it clearly didn't reach enough people and it wasn't. But you can't do you? Can't you can't pull it back? Once you've built it up. You can't pull back they've done things like put out videos where like get ready for more Diop blow news ear and you're like, what's the news? It's probably something exciting. So they should have been taking a cue from Bethesda e three where clearly Todd Howard knew that he had to address what Bethesda game studios was working on knowing how different faults sixes as title for them. He's like listen. We're trying this cool thing that's different verse. But don't worry. We got star field coming down the other and more six is going to be coming down soon or like five years from now. Diem? But like, yeah, exactly is just unfortunate. I obviously, I'm sure blizzard has learned a very valuable lesson with this. And I'm sure enough noise has been made where exerts like oh. So now we have to care about this because it's all people are talking about. And hopefully, you know, consumers, I I was also bummed out at the news, but I didn't give people death threats, and it send death threats, and that's not the way to go about things. Hopefully, both parties can just kind of learn a lesson from this. Well, speaking of blizzard lessens the hey decided to just go ahead and tell everyone working, I'm more mobile titles. So this right. It comes from gamespot Blissett executive producer. Alan atime. At him has announced that more developers IP's may get mobile game treatment. The news comes out after the announcement, of course, of Diablo, mortal mobile titles, part of the franchise quote in terms of blizzards approach to mobile gaming, many of us over the last few years have shifted from playing primarily desktop to play in many hours on mobile, and we have many of our best developers now working on new mobile titles across. All of our Ps. Some of them are with external partners like Diablo, mortal, many of them are being developed internally only and we'll have information to share on those in the future. I will say also that we have more new products in development today, a blizzard than we've ever had in our history and our future is very bright of right. No one can act surprise. Now. I'm gonna get world of warcraft mobile. Totally play activision blizzard bought king. You know, the the literal top of the mountain for mobile games with candy crush, right? And it's made them billions of dollars. Why wouldn't they use some of the resources from from company that clearly knows how to make mobile titles? Be successful and profitable to say, hey, we have this audience and they're not wrong. I play games on my on my phone, and I never used to complain the more and more and look at her stone and how huge that game is for them on mobile. And I think that people just got their panties in a bunch about fucking nothing. It's like you don't have to play it. And they clearly are working on the four and they just put down three out on switch like, what are you upset about their ended that way I think it's just the expectations. I what was delivered. I mean, I'm with you. Yes. But I get your get your argument, and there were people who wrote back to me, and they're like they have a right to be upset they paid for their bliss contexts, they paid for the blues virtual tickets, and I said that as you. To tell me that somebody bought their blues Kontic, it purely to see a DR announcement. Where is that person? I would love to meet them like simply that can't possibly exist that ball spent money for your bliss con pass, whether it was a virtual ticket or in-person pass only to go to the press conference or early go to the opening ceremonies in here about the album for like get the fuck out of here with that excuse get out because like even if they had anything about before, I don't think it would have been any thing. More than eight cents would have been a teaser sums. ER? Yes. It like the game's not ready yet, leave it alone. Yeah. So it was going to be playable on the show floor right now. Yeah. I mean, it's it's unfortunate. I can't say I'm surprised by it. I just wish everyone could be a little better, you know, in general. But I mean companies managing their expert knowing their community, and knowing what's I can't imagine that no one at that company was like this is a bad idea. Jim, Jim, we shouldn't do this. We should at least maybe open. I'm sure somebody told Jim that it was a bad idea. But almost like nuts fine. We're gonna know they'll be fine with. I wanna make something clear because you guys are our best audience, and I've been dealing with a lot of a lot of internet hate about my opinions about this particular matter. That I'm a believer that you're allowed to have your feelings, and you get to own your feelings. And if you wanna be mad you can be mad. My only caveat is that you don't get to go hurt other people because you're mad. Yes. You get to be angry you to express your anger. But if your anger directly hurts other people than that's not. Okay. I wish we lived in that world great world to live. It would be. It would be a great world. If you could just be mad at the sky because sky will just sit there and take it because it's this guy old sky, or whatever whatever is mad at cloud cloud. Cloud. Yes. The take way I won't because I'm sure there's people other listening that are like I deserve to be mad. I get to be mad and you're right. Sure. You absolutely get to have your feelings. I'm not trying to say, you don't have your failings. I just the way that some of the people at blizzard were so viciously attacked is just not. Okay. And if you are saying, it's okay. Then I have to tell you that you're absolutely dead wrong. That's all that's my final word on it. Yes. True. There's other healthier ways to convey, your frustrations, hopefully companies will be more susceptible to here in them and making changes based off of those civil protests. But I guess that remains to be seen. Yeah. Anyway, we don't use to be frustration. Oh, boy, we're gonna see v. Oh, yes. E- cancelled rip Gemade to Bata quit square Unix. So this crazy news broke earlier today. And I thought I kind of had to do like a. Double-take? I was like wait, wait, not tomatoes, some quick. So there's been quite a few write ups about this news. Am never more. Have I wished that? Whereas my girl when I need hot take was here. I texted her immediately after I saw this. And she was like she just kind of like sent me this gif of like like everything's on fire. And okay, let me read the right up here for Martin Robinson over a euro gamer Haji Mehta the man who brought squirt Unix troubled final fantasy fifteen project. Home has quit the company with a majority of DC plan for the game. Now cancelled the news comes in the immediate wake of square Unix. Posting a notice of an extraordinary loss of three point seven million yen just over twenty five million gpd was luminous productions about his recently formed studio cited in the statement bizarrely squirting next made the announcement of tomatoes departure on the cancellation of DC is part of the special. Livestream a continuation of series. It's used to keep in touch with fans throughout the latter. Part of final fantasy fifteen development never come literally. Euro giver understands that tomato was presented with the option to have luminous productions turn into one of square Unix as regular business divisions. Ecorse now seem set on or spin it off as his own company. See with court eunuchs investment, though, he chose to leave altogether. The departure was confirmed internally towards the end of this summer, quote in regards to my next endeavors in near future of a project that I truly wish to solidify as my next challenge after final fantasy fifteen about a divulge on the livestream as production of episode Ardenne continues and Linda production works on new projects. I felt that it was time for me to hand over the torch to the next generation group of talented and trustworthy colleagues and believe that they will create something amazing getting quote. So you're updated their stories same that tomato resigned from his role as the director of final fantasy fifteen at the same time that he left luminous productions and has no further relations with squirt Unix or luminous productions and the statement reads, we are told that he left for personal reasons it is with regret to see. The departure of such towns and member of staff who applied themselves on final fantasy fifteen and many other memorable titles. We wish him every success in the future and will continue to cheer him on acid a future of luminous productions the studio was. Established with the goal to create a new IP. So we are continuing to develop our new title. This is bonkers news. So this reads to me is there are some shit that went down, but we're going to be respectful adults about the situation congratulate each other on our successes in leave and put out statements that say we wish you all the best. We wish you the best. Now, I'm done with you and I'm walking away. But certainly more than co NAMI I was like what happened with Layla? That was. A dumpster fire. Yeah. This is just I mean, okay. There's a lot here. So with this livestream. We're anticipating to hear more about obviously episode ardent episode. Luna Freya episode Arna, and then knocked us, and our noxious and Luna Frei have all been canceled, which are which are three obviously important members of this story. However, this whole development cycle of final fantasy fifteen when the game of rigidly released like this. This would have made eight story deal see pieces or seven story deal when they announced this, and we were all like, wait, what's because the original game. You know, there's trouble in paradise. And there was a lot of characters like Luna Fran Arna that just never fleshed out. And he's supposed to be pivotal members of the story. And you don't know what the hell's going on half the time you're supposed to watch movie before you start the game. So you kind of understand what's happening, and you don't really understanding late homework. Yeah. And so they've released the end then there's these moments what each character prompt. Oh, glad gladdy and Ignace where you'll adding or as we like to call them gladdy daddy. But I I didn't know there was a lot there. He daddy. I think you glad he daddy. Yes. Based on physical appearance alone. It's story DLC. Okay. Like kind of made sense in this game spent out for two years now. And the fact that they still felt the need to put this deal sea to flesh out the story. It's just like. Who who was real was this really going to be a success? I query necks probably not. And it makes sense that it's been scrapped. And I appreciate that. They were trying to maybe capture what's been happening with games as live service movement over the last couple of years saying we spent a decade building this world. Let's make the most of it by releasing extra deal seen keeping the core. Community coming back because I mean who knows when a the final fantasy seven remake is ever coming and be final fantasy sixteen is ever going to happen. Right. So it's like they had to do something. And I thought at first I was like it's a weird plan something that we don't traditionally see. But in a world of live service games. Like, I can be down with it. Yeah. So this comes as a complete surprise. I have to imagine that this is really hinged on tomatoes vision or perhaps his leadership either. Being a good thing that like he. Was such a great leader that they can't continue without him or it being a bad thing that there was trouble imperative as you mentioned and that things behind the scenes were wildly off the rails in square is cutting the bleeding right to let's cauterize their leg limits. Needs. I don't wanna say deeds to die because that's not fair because I love this game. And I love the community that go to pasture and just needs to go to pasture and as long as they live. As long as they live for life. Eating some nice foregone at grass as long as the community continues to thrive found fancy fifteen will still be thing. But I'm live on if I guess I would say to body was probably sick sick of it. He probably through his hands up in the air is like all right friends. I love you. I'm done. I have my own aspirated. I've been working on this project for half of my life. Now. I mean, that's an exaggeration now ever, really. He probably left's I'm thinking, then they're like how the hell we're gonna finish this deal. See has it even begun production yet art, and obviously has since that's the only one we're getting and then there's the loss right there. All the efforts put into everything. It's just. Yeah. I mean, I'm having getting Arden because I think that's the most important one episode art in he's the main antagonists of of the game. And he's a very interesting character when that also wasn't fleshed out fully, well, and it's unfortunate. But I think this one needs to kind of just go organic. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've been four one out for the loss deal sees of final fantasy v a standalone thing if that's something you're into and there's five fancy fourteen collaborations going on. But we obviously know final fantasy as a brand is wrong. Oh, yeah. It's fun affinities union strong. We obviously have the remake the seven remake coming out and. But yeah, very interesting news. None the less so. Next up. Red dead online beta to arrive towards the end of November. Finally, we have a little bit of insight. I g and writes, we knew it would come at some point this month rockstar owner, take two interactive has confirmed that the beta for read it on the wheel right at the end of November on an earnings. Call take to CEO Strauss's only explained that it will launch the public betas towards the end of the month rockstar. We'll have a lot more to say about it. Well, you don't have much time say it soon didn't go into any more detail about timing. But at least we know won't be surprise release. Take to president call slat off called it. An evolution of the classic multiplayer experience in the original red redemption blending narrative with competitive and cooperative gameplay in fun. New ways in our interview with rockstar about online, the developers confirmed that it would use read dead twos full world, and that much of its development would be fairly fluid based on what players liked and disliked about the initial release Ma. GTI Online's development went give it to me. So I'm definitely interested. I had no desire shocker to play GTE online when it came out. Just had. No, no calling. No, Iginla hankering. Nothing wanted me to want me to draw into that world. Because all I could think of was I'm just going to get grief. And I don't wanna go in there and get grieved and play. I was like I'm dumb don't even want to it. I actually am really intrigued excited about red dead because the world that they've built to me is the standout feature of red dead redemption to and just how magnificently filled out it is. We're gonna talk about it a lot more in the hands on section because Brit has finished it. Don't worry, no spoilers. I would murder her before her spot. And I would prevent a murder from happening. You obviously, no spoilers. But we'll be talking more about that. But. Did you play online read did the the first one? Yeah. Barely anything. Not really because for me the appeal of that world is to be alone. Tech fallout online. But then I also especially tied to the Matic's of this particular game. I think it makes sense gang culture. Whenever like, we can have a little what's good gang. Maybe I don't know. Obviously, we don't know how how it works yet. But ideally, it's like, oh, yeah, we all right around on horses together shoot up if we want to but for the most part, and I'll talk about this later to what appeals to me is sort of the loneliness of that game. No. And you're not wrong. I haven't thought about it that way if we could. Make our own like what's good uniform kind of out of like cowboy hats and stuff. There is this like I have him decked out in some pretty opulent gear that we could make your droops system and online is even like three-quarters good. I'm not gonna say half because expect better than half. As it is in the main game, take my money. By I will buy all the clothes. I am very very excited for this. I agree. Like when you said you like to be alone in this game. Like that makes total sense to me. I think I get that from the single player experience. But I think doing this multi player with this setting like you were talking about in this map, and all the things you can do I love western games and never really knew that until reds every gumption that something about them really really draws me in and experiencing that and doing robberies and trotting along on her horses. I think that I think it'd be like right around with you guys. And be like what's in holy. They will. Oh. I'll stop them up. Hold of them won't take long to implement something like Bank heists or train highs as they did in GTA because implementing high Sajida token extraordinarily long time. So hopefully, they have some lessons learned from online that they can apply towards redemption to and they can expedite some of that stuff. But obviously the tech in this world far surpasses we saw in GTE alive. So yeah, you never you never know what actually more difficult to implement from. Game development perspective and GT out was in this map is huge. Yes. Oh, jeez. Was very sizable to I don't have a lot of experience GTE game. So I I've never even played GT online. So I don't even know what that bar is that red dead, hopefully meet, but there's just so many possibility and even though you've quote finish the game. Like, you haven't seen all the map. I actually watched John send because he did the follow road thing. I mean, just like uncover the fog of war off the map, and it blew my mind. Just how big that map really is. Because you think it's big at the follow road thing. So like he wouldn't pick a round. Yes. And then just let the I've been doing a lot. Well, originally, I doing that. Because I was like I need to actually play story about. But that's what I just picked a spot. And I was like this just keeps goalie. Holy oh my God. Yeah. I haven't done that yet because I've been bouncing around. And I've been having a lot of. Indecisiveness about what I wanna play on a day-to-day basis because I'm juggling very James. But. I wanna go back and just explore and take my time with it. Maybe I might have to wait for a while. Maybe it's my Christmas break game. Just like spend spend the time going to find this beautiful white Arabian horses. We're talking about it. Yes. My campaign because I want to put a pin in red dead. We'll come back to it in the next segment. All right. Are onto our last piece of news unless something else big broke. Actually, there's two pieces of news. There's one piece of news that I didn't put on here. But this piece in case you missed it four night is bananas. Huge. Oh, wow. So that's my personal headline. The actual fortnight has more concurrent players than every game on steam combined. So they announced this on Thursday fortnight has achieved a new concurrent player count. This comes from PC games, then of eight point three million. Yes, you're hearing that number correctly eight point three million concurrent players that means all playing at the same time on all platforms. We have to imagine that's all platforms for reference that is more people playing fortnight in a single moment than a total of epochs own unreal series. That's more people that have played doom and doom two combined ever. And that's more than the concurrent players. In every single game on Steen combine now for reference over at twin finit they announced that fortnight past puppies previous steam, concurrent, total of three point two million back in April with three point four million. Obviously they've surpassed that multiple times over and they currently sit at the number one most concurrent players of all time besting crossfire the Chinese tactical shooter that's a free to play game available which currently or previously held the record with eight million. And then right behind them. Of course, behemoth mobile league of legends with seven point five million as the previous record holder before crossfire bested them. So the question I. Different system. Thank you. Catch. A+ marketing. So I wrote to Nick Chester, who of course, the publicist for epic games after they announced the city on Twitter, and I didn't get a confirmation. And I don't know if I will. And I was doing a little digging online to try to figure out what is the highest concurrence of a game ever because people were playing for saying, obviously, Pokemon. Go must beat that. It's an interesting question because four night obviously mobile game call to game NPC game. So I have to imagine they're drawing the concurrent players from all three of those places. We don't know what the split is interesting. I would love to know the split as to like how many people are playing in each section too. So I asked them that they of course, have not responded yet. I don't know if they will respond. But also, I I asked how it compares. Clearly, they now are the number one most concurrently played game of all time. But I don't know if that includes mobile titles or how they would register that. And so I tried to look for what kings. Concurrent players were and I didn't get a concurrent number. All I got was a daily average users one point king had almost one hundred million daily average users which is crazy about but. But in one day is different than a concurrent. Yeah. Wow. But regardless of people that is an impressive feat. And congratulations to epic once again for breaking your own record. And for really kind of world domination with a game in a way that I don't think any of us expected I vividly remember having our old couch here and Darren subs was sitting here with us. Right. The creative director. That clip save. I was a bear. Once. And save the world and talking about how I have always had kind of an star in my I for this game since I saw a judge's week back twenty thirteen and I really loved it. And like had no idea. I had the pleasure. The absolute pleasure of running into him at twitch Khan. And I because I hadn't seen him since he came here on the livestream. And I said who knew man, congratulations. You must be over the moon with for your team. All our words, mcduck it all the way. Well, he personally, obviously, they feel like they all probably heard about that. They have all gotten a very nice bonus epic is taking very good care of everybody on their staff, which is wonderful to hear. But like I said to him go from personal you've working on this game for like eight years. Like, how does how does it feel? He's like, it's surreal. I'm just so excited that so many people have gotten to play. I wonder what's if it's weird for them though that like the thing that they kind of a regionally, but their horse on they pivoted fast enough. Yeah. That's not a fortnight was nice. What it was what they were working to build. Right. And then so to be like we're building this week. It's going to be great. And then to have that not the thing. But like you still manage to do an amazing thing that was never the plan. Right. So I wonder if there's any sort of like bizarre internal struggle with that like I had this idea for the for my baby. And no one likes the baby that I originally had but they really liked. I wouldn't say, no. One. Something they're supporting that they still have players on it only because most doing so well they can afford to. Well, correct. I mean, it would be very interesting to know where fortnight as game would be and how much money epic would be continuing to put into it. If battle royale hadn't happened. I don't think I ever wanna go down that road and be legs out. Go. What they were doing was so innovative with the way that they incorporated the building mechanics into the cooperative kind of tower defense gameplay and kind of added this really different diverse base building element to it. And I think that's what makes fortnight unique in the battle royale genre is that they're like, hey, we're not just a drive vehicle around and shoot people with cool skins and your guns the building still impacts the game play quite substantially especially at the more competitive. Low people are insane. I've seen some of the buildings some of those streamers and they build so fast. And you're just like. I mean, it's exactly how they know. Exactly. How to like lineup shot for really fucking far. I'm just like I don't. I don't know. I don't know how you're doing this. No same all watch the false skirmish was happening at twitch Khan and you wash some of those competitive players, and I'm just like obviously practice makes perfect. But I don't think enough to get that. Joe? I mean, I've been playing some blackout as well. I mean, just in the battle royale mode, and I I appreciate the fort and has the building mechanics almost turns me off from it. Because I feel like that's just another thing. I'd have to learn of complexity which is I mean, I'm sure it's appreciated by people who like that. 'cause obviously, pudgy and blocks out and drive around people with your skin's or whatever you just raised too. But it's and I didn't mean as a dig on other battery owls, I'm just saying I think that's contributed to fortnight success. Right. I think that I always large to do with that. I think the art so has to do with it. I think the fact that it's technically PG friendly has a ton to do with it. So I kind of manage to like check all these boxes without knowing. It was checking any of those importantly, it's. Free to play free to play. I would also say the way that the quickness that epoch pivoted on it. And started supporting it and started listening to the players on it. How obviously a dry thing to do. With house accessible, I became. Absolutely. Bravo. It's just my dog payment gold in them hills. That us here payroll. It was it was interesting to me that they announced that they did a round of funding that I think it was a one point seven billion dollar round of funding. And I'm like why why did he need funding from anybody you're making? I think the estimate I saw was they were on par to make two billion this this year from from fortnight Couva nana's, man. So okay. I don't know. Do you think this game? Obviously at one point some points just going to slowly decline in popularity but do how long we think it has this momentum. I think something like this is going to be similar to like a while. And let like yes, the player the player base will decline, but it's still going to be a big number. Yeah. Yeah. The bubble on better else. Gonna burst quick. I don't think it's going to have the legs that Minecraft has enjoyed for several years. I think that they are going to enjoy a long wave of success for at least the next two years. Potentially three years. But I think like five years from today like this fever over battle royale will be gone there will still be a core fan base absolutely people playing, but it won't be like this eight point three million concurrent number is is just not going to be. There will be some other kind of new hotness happening. Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the next capture the flag multiplayer mode, right? We're it's just an mode that you're going to thing. Yeah. For the multiplayer package. Yeah. Exactly. We just folded into that. Pastry? Just keep folding keep those at a flaky. Each of the moment in sleeping beauty of Disney sleeping, beauty where the fairy godmothers are folding full eggs into the batter. Trying to make a cake. Because they're trying to use magic. And she's literally is she's reading that ever speech like full three aides that she been really puts the eggs in whole. And then smashes them that you can hear the crunch of the shells. I don't know why I've thought of that it's my favorite movie but seen that one. I will show it to you. What Lanqing all day baby girl, but not so good my favorite. Agit for you. We can full eggs like. I slept with you. Once I walked with walking through. He wasn't a dream. Children's clothes the goal. Okay. I was going to do all the mass effect news. When we talk about seven in the third segment, but essentially the big news is by wear pretty much confirmed that they're working on more mass effect, which is fantastic news for fans like that was his Jabbie that kind of makes sense to me that he'd be like, I know we kind of fucked it up. But like can we put this? This now. Now, let me fix or Kansas promise. So obviously, we giant fans in a lot of you out there as well wrote in when I asked for you to send me your mass stories, which we'll get to later on on the show want more felt like there was a void after drama over lease. And there was no story deals. A there was a little bit of multiplayer stuff that happened. That was a spider coming down. It's just a weird dandy lion. Shit piece of like legit. Like, I see it not Daniela and lure is it. You blow on data? Yeah. Like, why is it here? And where did it come from? I don't know maybe came off the rug. I don't know. But it scared the shit out of me. I thought there was a spider that just Glick. Does was feeling lonely and just wanted to come hang out those The Danny lung legs. I pedaled. What's sorta? The office. Daddy long. So they on seven day they released video that says this year, we take a look back and glimpse at the future of massive than ends with Casey doing the Kermit the frog sip with a Cup. I don't watch. Okay. I haven't right here fail at being a massive fan. I mean that's been days. Here we go. There. We go. Please hold ladies gentlemen. Narrate was happening. Oh sex thing. More dance. Choices. Piece narrating what's happened? I know I don't wanna for a little walking down the street by because we're an end seven gear. And they're like, oh my God. We totally get each other. God we should date. Why aren't we dating cell phone is going off teeth are being brush? Floors are being put on heads. There's a sun in the sky. There's all these rule. More than. Today kit this book deal. My God loves overshoot Bartholomew the net summer. Yes. It is. Normandy's? This is real more space longer. And seven means having a community seven's, a celebration of something bigger and seven means fight to protect the people you love as about diversity and seven means adventure Xinxiang. So one of those were was drives knowing and seven is a chance to to answer to someone else. Funding new stories and that can to me mass effect means like to play to interact with. We're end insurers right fail. Mike. Michael gamble gamble. Should be available today. It means coming into the store. Dreaming about what the next grade. And also rang anything Levin, Brandon. Oh. That look at that. I mean, I think it was last year. I got to be part of their end seven day video that was fun and some of the knockout job with that branding that fucking true. One hundred percent true. So there was a lot of people like doing screengrabs of the cups or the Cup says I should go. Does it which is like a massive? It's actually for me to read. Yeah. People say does say this is like no, that's a well known Masic mean go just by aware on the bottom of it. Do they still? They used to. I don't know if they do anymore. Or with it. But I'm sure that somebody online sells the should go go, and I should go. See if. Somewhere, and they left obviously, a lot of doors open with the end of Andromeda about like what could potentially happen, and they did so much work setting up. This new cast of characters in Andromeda. Obviously, you guys have a very intimate relationship with John Paul insured officer. Yeah. I would say it's a limited physical interaction. Listen. There are limits to what we want to do. There was a pre show we were talking about what a sex shop in mass effect will more later. It's gonna be a good conversation. I'm having a brain fart. Okay. On the pro themes name the profusion in math Andromeda. What's his name? Don't ask me. Oh my gosh. I'm like having the big somebody's reeling in their car. Love you be patient. Whereas Wicky thing I was I appreciate about us. Ladies is that when we don't know something we don't pretend you we will sit. Mass for priority deal seek I know I'm thinking about Michigan drama. We have Scott and Sarah writer Alec writer, Liam Cora pillow Khawaja. Wait. Wait. Wait. What this is too much. PB? A crew member. Yeah. The pro Theun you wake him up and he joins your crew, and I took him everywhere because he gave cool interesting tidbit dialogue every time you brought them on a mission. Because you know, you pick the crewmates that come in your mission. Aspect work. Remember this guy remember ever mass back three not mass Becton drama. Gosh. Look it up for massive and three fucking look it up. Yeah. All my my confusing in domestic threes. Then still confused because there wasn't a mass effect drama. Oh, no. You're right. How did I do that Javid? Yes, it's Masic three on the worst timer. Take away. My gamer car got fame gamer. Tell you what it is. And you're like, are you sure doesn't act fucked that up daddy along even though I did put my mass effect three XBox three sixty disc into my XBox wanted to loaded up for backwards compatibility. So I have an install ready to play because somebody mentioned the citadel deal. See, and I was like my must. Actually, go into your fake, a gamma girl, the knocking on your candy cries, I pulled all that stuff for the third segment for the responses, but the news, of course, is just that in seventy happened, and the essentially confirmed that they're working more mass effect, which is great news for all of us by our fans, and we'll talk more about how much we love JAL or hundred doll- and mass effect and are end seven memories. And what it means to us in the third segment and read some of your responses that you guys sent in. But for now, I think we're probably going to call it good. There was some other news that happened Nintendo. Change some stuff in smash. Whoa. All let me turn this. Tend to change some stuff in smash my staff of settled all of their characters or something. Well, they had they had some offensive native American image. One of the characters from a previous version of smash. Watch cable decades ago when that character was like originally created and they were like, hey, this was an oversight by our tree house staff. This character would created. Many decades ago when we as a company felt differently. And we're not aware of how this was impacting players and people in our community. And we've since changed it in are going to be fixing it modified it and their GameBoy advance release. And I think it was just the slip. It was. And that's the thing that people are like how did this get by tree house knowing how vigilant they are? I think it was just like didn't updated in all the different places the key art exists. And so they were like are bad. We're fixing it. So that's good. They got on top of it right away. All the five smash. You'll see characters have been finalized. We don't know who they were basically soccer ice on stop harassing me. Nintendo. Picked these you don't get a say shut. There's ques- the door is not open for you to request grows. Please don't you not to me on social media about what characters you wanna see. I'm also been message essentially this accolade. Yeah. I was talking about maybe it was a while ago. And I'm just melding time together. But I thought you guys were going to talk about the cinema cinematic or something I don't know where the kill everybody except we're talking about it last week smash. Okay. Okay. And ask crooked onto talk about that. We watch the smash livestream at seven freaky. That's crack. Don's is five thirty not every but honesty. One or two though, that's my fault. Yeah. True. It is your fault. And there were some other stuff. But those that was the gist of it that was the day the big stuff. All right. We're gonna take our first break of the show when we come back. We're talk about what we've been playing stick with us. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll see enemy. Back. Everybody segment. Two of the what's games podcasts. Hopefully, you're not join us in the middle of the ship. Even though that's what our Timestamps forum. He does. Yourself wondering. Intro of the show to. Listen to this. Shade is so real I'm not intentionally throwing shade at people who come you need just a little bit a sip right now with your Rosa. I'll do it with us whiskey. Go. Responses to the comments talk too much. Sorry, I'm not mocking you. But. Thank you. No, we'd love you guys. And we love talking to you about the show. But sometimes we have to take the little moments when we do because we deal with a lot of bullshit on the internet. You might have seen me tweet earlier this week that I was having a little bit of a hard time. Because of everything all of the fallout that was happening from my conversation with Tim on kind of funny games daily about the blizzard situation. And then my appearance friend of the show, Jared petty and somebody who's appeared here on what's good games invited me to come on red dead radio. We're trying to set up a time when all three of us can be on red did radio with Jared. And I went on the show knowing that I had some critical things to say that I also had a lot of really positive things to say about the game because it's a really amazing game. And I was not an -ticipant eating quite the wave of Harry, Harry. I can't act my way, and I've been doing this internet media business for quite a long time. And I like to believe that I have a pretty thick skin. And I've never subscribed to the philosophy of just don't read the comments. I think it's integral to what we do. And to what I do. And I like having dialogue with you guys. I like talking to you guys in the comments. But sometimes people are really terrible in the comments true. And thankfully, we have a lot of fantastic Mods are what who game community, and we have Britney who is always ever present with the ban. Hammer is our shields. I don't tolerate bullshit. And we curate our community pretty aggressively for a lot of reasons as an all female cast. We get a lot of extra bullshit thrown away. Besides third shit. Right. Besides the usual internet bullpen. So. Yeah. We point to what I was saying because we were talking about sometimes the comments people. So you talk to the beginning of the show. Oh, yeah. We were making fun of people again. I'm sorry. I shouldn't make fun of you for you, don't probably talk like that. But it's just one of those things where it's like it's coping mechanism. So because of everything that gets thrown our way easier to make light of it in that manner that that's exactly it. That's number Senate. That's all we have time. Sam's long. Long also communities. Amazing awesome. And we all feel very fortunate that I mean, I hop in the comment section every day for a few minutes in rarely do. I need a ban some asked how -tory she's our community is phenomenal these fans so much is. And we love you guys. And thank you so much everybody who posted in the kind of funny sub brought it I did see the thread, and it means a lot into people who wrote emails we saw them. We read them. We try to do our best to respond to every Email that we get. And of course, you know, there are some that through. But if you've written us like, thank you. It's been seeing and that's all I wanted to say good thing to say. Well, have we been playing? So obviously, we alluded to red dead redemption to before we get there. Let's talk about moon lighter. Britney moon letter. I have my title tavist was released on Monday. No because so few games released on a Monday. Yeah. This game on switch on Monday, November fifth hours. Exact oh my God. It was baby girl. It was my knuckle. I know it was going to be only fireworks going off in this bitch. It's been out since may for all the other platforms, so XBox, PlayStation. So have you ever played a game? And within the first twenty played game. I'm not guess smart asses. Well, then I like twenty minutes you're like I'm going to become addicted to this game. My life is over. Probably close like star to. Yeah. Okay. So you the first twenty minutes. It's like once you get that game play loop get through game play loop, and you go. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is my jam. I think for me that was. The hobbit kingdoms of Middle Earth, which was a mobile game that no longer exists. Do you live in all these games? I kind of go out to pasture. Well, that was sad about that. That of now. It's now a game. I think it's called like. Elves in in goblins or something because clearly they lost the license or the game that Caban used to make it. And so it's changed now. And it's like I'm like, it's not not the same. But I I fell hard for that game. It's a it was an artist's mobile game. That was like all about because I was like three different alliances. And it was great. Well, you got your life back. Not what I was expecting. We had our online group we talked about this before I lost hundreds of dollars hours, ours hours feeling keeping years of my life to that game. So moonlighters my latest game like that. So the game play loop from what I understand them only two and a half hours into this thing. But I'm like, oh my God. I've learned that. I love games that let me go at my own pace. And don't brush me to do anything like Harvey, no trees no-trace in. There are some trees in this. But they're not intrusive trees. I'm just gonna call bullshit again. Treat theory. So games started valley harvest news seasons, even like red dead, redemption to some extent where I can just kind of try around the world and not feel rushed to do anything. So with moon lighter the game play loop is that you have a shop, and you have to go to a dungeon. And all these Dunton dungeons are randomly generated. And every time you go in there different. Obviously, that's what that means. And you go, and you to enemies things are not in summer, and you get artifacts. Or and then you go to your shop, and you sell them your stock. Your inventory is what you lewd off these monsters. Yes. Okay. And you okay. So you get these items you go to your store, and then you sell them now. Each item has a specific price that customers will buy it. And their supply and demand is a factor. But I haven't gotten too much into that. So if I kill monster and get a vine, I go to my shop, and I place it on display, and I set that price, and then a customers come in you open your shop, and they look at it. And it they have like a Sodom side face emoji. Side phase happy face like super duper excited face and base off that you judge. How you have. This thing priced if it's a hat is a fucking economics game this surprises me that you are this little dragon's cafe Jenky as that game. Was I really liked the game play loop of it. And it's sort of the same thing. Anyway. So you sell these items, and then you get money for that. And then use that money to upgrade the town and upgrade your shopping. So when you upgrade your equipment that you're going to the dungeon the winning. See you upgrade the town to get a blacksmith and the blacksmith is opened up, and then he requires certain items to build better sores. Get a bow better armor, blah, blah, blah. And then you go back in the dungeon. And you collect your items, and you can leave the dungeon. I believe only by going using your pendant which causes which cost three hundred dollars. So you have to make sure you get at least three hundred dollars worth of goods, which is really easy to do. And your dungeon run. Then you go back. So you make so you can come back and then sell your goods and then keep coming in and out. That's what she said. Yeah. I think you all in the pillow, but I am really really enjoying it. So what I was as if you'd like the mining or whatnot and starting valley kind of the same thing not reducing things that is not the mines is the place on the oasis. Yes. That's what I mean. Thank you. Yeah. And game dungeon the game. Play when you're in the dungeon kinda reminds me of that. That's where you clicked all the goods and you sell them. And then you upgrade stuff, which you think you're moonlighting as shopkeeper you're leading an adventure. I don't even know what moonlighting means. So moonlighting is when you have an alternate occupation to your day job, essentially that makes so much sense. Yes. Okay. So swim. It's like you're moonlighting as a dungeon crawler, right? Yes, moonlighting is associated with a secret, alternate occupation. So like by day Steiner works in video game developer, but by night, she moons light moonlight moonlighting lights, nothing. We're the verb moonlights as a cocktail waitress Speakeasy bar. We ask it as where she doesn't really. But like that will be fun. Maybe. Yeah. I actually don't like talking to people. So maybe, but yeah. So. Couldn't play it. As like, a I don't ever want to talk to you. And that's why people love you because they're like this girl. So there's us like super hot chick that works this bar and her stick is that she never talks to the eye. She's gonna bar. But yeah. So that's what moonlight ASO minor, Shannon. Is you can do colander during the day or the night? So you can kind of pick and choose your patients it's on switch, and that's the plot from my planet on it. And it's fucking perfect the perfect switch game. So it's really fun. I'm really enjoying the game plue addicted. And I like that you can just kind of take your time. Do you want? How you want? You're not being rushed to do anything. And it's my gym. It's my jelly. Well, good. I actually think this sounds really cool. Check it out. You should I do though have Diablo three turn a collection. Download my would did I play it this week. Nope. I also have hitman to download it onto my PS four games. Getting good reviews. Play. It did I play it this week. No. I have a copy for you. And I didn't play either of those games because I obviously was having a little bit of a mental health crises at the beginning of this week. And I took two days away from being online and being on my counsel. And did some things around my house that were non video game related. You just real world things right there. I do see where I just need to kind of clear my head of work related stuff. And so instead when end seven-day came around, and I was like, I think I'm I've taken enough of a cleanse. I need to rub your laptop because you're good. It's just very good. Oh god. Sorry. I was I was groping my laptop covering. I felt great. I understand what you're doing. I also I'm natural fidget. Or if you ever watched the video at YouTube dot com games, you probably noticed that me fidgeting the entire show. And seven day came around. And they made the announcement that they released this new patch to make the game massive Andromeda enhanced for Xbox One x and so I thought to myself, I go, you know, what I haven't booted up. Mass fact a long time. I did put my mask three disc in to install it for backwards compatibility because I wanted to go back and visit that game. But I was like what am I check this out and see what this patch is all about? And I will say I was pleasantly surprised with how good the game looks now mind, you some of the animation issues that existed in the game at launch still exist. Now, they obviously have patched out a lot of the really horrific stuff, and it's not as noticeable, but in the wake of games like Reggie, redemption to assassin's creed odyssey. God of war. You know, it's not as easy to look at, you know, facial animation and go, this is acceptable. But. I also remind myself than a video game doesn't graphically need to be photo realistic in order for me to enjoy it. And there's so much more that I love about it. And I got so engrossed in plain game that I played for six straight hours last night. I just like Buddha. I spent more than a healthy man of time recreating my red writer, which is what named her. And I started up the game. And I'm playing now go villain red Ryder red writer, I mean, I could play her as villain, but I don't it's her last name. Would the red brighter shit? These jokes. You're working way up to a good day joke someday your joke might make it onto one of my postcards. Yeah. That's when I. Quit. What's good games and won't go into the sunset? Become a joke. Writer. There's there's something there, but I've been really enjoying going back, and it's hard because I would love nothing more than to lose myself in mass effect and drama imp- late through all of that again and experience it with a fresh set of eyes and kind of relive it. Because so many people reach out to me after I was tweeting about and seven day about how and drama was their favorite in the mass fix series. Which was unexpected for me because two is clearly the business I game. We'll talk about that more on the third segment. But I think that when we played it at launch clearly wasn't ready. And now they've made some significant improvements in the game. And it's been a while since it was originally released, and I would say to anybody if you I said this on Twitter that if you missed it or you didn't play it. Because quote, someone told you it was bad. You're missing out on a really fantastic massive. Game. And obviously is up for debate, which massive is your favorite, but overall this was not a bad game by any machination. There's a lot of really great stuff in it. And I've been enjoying it. But now juggling mass function of registered option. Spider-man assassin's creed odyssey to destiny I've kind of put on the backburner. Because I love destiny, and I love her was could guardians. And every once in a while. I see it on the cross media bar, my PlayStation, and I'm like, I just jump in for a couple days really quick jump in and out. But I know that once I jump in. I'm probably going to stay in. But the gonna have a December event and they're supposed to have the season pass content. So I might just wait until the next big content drop happens to get back in because there's just so much. I need to play that. I haven't played. I like I have my life back. I mean, we'll talk about this later now that I finished redemption to you. I'm like, oh come up for air. There's a whole beautiful wide world around me that I forgot completely. I mean in January on the horizon, it's getting so close, everyone, leave me alone. All I wanna do sit in my house play red dead. Not talk to anybody. So yes, let's transition into red dead redemption to and talk more about mass and drama in in if. I feel like it in the in the third say when we have our in seven discussion, so red dead has obviously been dominated a lot of your lives and clearly all of our lives and for good reason. Right. Like this is a game. Like this comes along. I think like once in a generation for video game consoles, and there's a lot to be said for it. I don't regret the things that I expressed on this show about that game. When it first came out in our review in progress discussion, a lot of those concerns, I had still exist. But I will say a lot more of the highlights what makes this game. So special have shown themselves in presented themselves over the course of the fifty odd hours or whatever I'm at for game play. I think about like a sixty five percent progression right now. In that game, and Britney you obviously finished it. I did so Sunday's completion. When you finish eighty seven point three or something that's pretty impressive that store story progress. Totally the time. I finished the game. When credits roll those one hundred percents story completion. But overall, it's like eighty seven point three or something like that that's wild. That's a that's a lot of a lot of bounties. Did I did a lot and there's still so much more. I want cutting Jones's team challenges. And yeah, go to legendary doing the fishing. How do the rankings on the missions effect that because I feel like I got bronze or silver on almost all of the mission today. So I don't think it impacts because you don't know what the caveats are for what you how you get the gold writings or whatever right until after you've after you did emission. Yeah. And then it shows you. They were rating me. Yeah. So I know what you're talking about now. But I'm like, oh, yeah. Because you don't know the requirements. How would you know completely spoiler? If they gave you the requirements the head of time to do it. It's like a replay ability to go back to do it. Yeah. Stephanie plead mission, obviously, you can hold the button. And it'll show you most of the time. It's like get this amount of headshots complete his mission within a certain timeframe. But there are some where looting all the bodies is gonna take me twelve years literally failed all of time missions every single one fry care. How's it doesn't impact anything? But no, it's. Again does meat completely spoiler free. But I feel like in the beginning or the first half. Even maybe the first like two thirds of the game. I felt like okay. Like, I'm taking my leisurely pace. This is starting you know, booting it up and just hunting all day or just exploring all day. 'cause there's so many interesting things of finding that huge expansive game world things that you're like what the fuck is this. What is this doing in here? But I want so fun. I wanna talk about one of those that I ran into because it was just so I just like I just laugh I was so happy. So I'm just running around like you do on your beautiful wars with it's beautiful, but it's beautiful animated. But it's a great, but muscles in that. Dude goodbye. Like, yes, they've really spire to have a horse, but the horse mussel animation is so fucking good. Anyway. So I'm ready, my horse kind of just doing what you were talking about having a nice quiet time, and I come across this kid. And when I say kid, I mean, I think he's probably like nineteen twenty kid, and he is throwing rocks into the river. Oh, yeah. He's just forget the name. Do you? Remember the name some girl's name. He's basically bemoaning. The fact that this girl, I assume as turned him down rejected him in some way, sue is just like Mary, sue Mary. So why would you do? This is just like throwing rocks, and I walked my horse. I kind of up to him and pause. He's not go away. Mr. want to be alone right now. Understands. And then like I feel like I need to leave now because I just told him I would leave. So I would just wanna cross the riverbank and stood there. An wait it and watering on it for a while. And then he eventually just like stops throwing rocks and knock your eyes. I didn't even have a conversation. Really? Yes. I just took him like he didn't wanna talk. So I was like, okay. Bye. No. And that's what's so cool about this game. Is you know, you see these random ask characters, and you have these conversations, and they just organic organics the world is still it's still alive. And then you'll see them, you know, at certain points throughout and you like, I remember you all we had this conversation. And then you see like what happened, you know? And that's really, yeah. I unfortunately, didn't coach them through life. So I don't know if we'll be okay. But. Are you mostly looked at him? And was like, I can't believe there's a cry on the river Bank over there under so many instances of that stuff happening. And that's part of the magic of this game way that they develop this world is that your playthrough britney's played through my playthrough are all going to be completely Chris and the stuff we see. Yeah. Is going to be completely different. Let's part of way. I mean, I also agree like that. There are called the of life gripes that I have it. We kind of discussed the first time we did. But is probably like that is probably one of the reasons why they don't have a forward button. So they had a full road button. You wouldn't you would never see that. Right. Like, you would probably ride by most of the thing. A cinematic. Don't okay. Although I did see that really funny, buddy. Look guys like interested in they said, he like, it's a long flies off his horse into the ground. Yeah. I also posted a game play clip on my Twitter account. I got I saw that of me being in town. So I try. Yeah. So it was my horse was glitches out in a really hilarious way. What happened was I thought that I had hitched my horse. But instead my horse got caught like in a trot against the wall. And I was looking at it being like this Larry is it's just like trotting against the wall so treadmill. Right. Exactly. But he's like up at an angle. And and so I was looking at and then I tried whistling to maybe that'll break out of this loop that he's in or didn't work. So I was like, okay. Well, let me try to get on it. And and ride around. I got on still stuck. And then I was like, well, maybe if I try to like. Gal up. So then I'm trying to go fast. I was like I'm definitely gonna hit somebody. There's going to be a crime. This is going to be. I knew I knew it was happening. And then I soon as I came out of the Gallup, I hit this woman. I start my horse bang into the other wall. It's going sideways. This drift -i. The apparently there's a drifter you in the horses. If you have your horse bond that high yet, but like I was like moving like Vert like horizontally on the horse, and it was bad. And then of course, there's a witness, and I was just like, oh, man. And I just like I wouldn't happen. I don't know if I'd just been either having too much wine or if I had been playing for too long. I lost my shit like doubled over that type of laugh where you can't breathe laughing so hard. I don't know. It was so funny about this glitch w