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#566 Is Your Gut Leaking?

Science for the People

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#566 Is Your Gut Leaking?

"So if you if you if you ask to. A basic scientist right now. The question. Do you believe the delete? He's Got Syndrome exists. Probably he or she answered. No does not exist, but if you do you believe that, gut, permeability can be mutually so that sometimes it got is weaker than some other times, and these can create problems. You probably year and answered. Yes, I be possible this week on science for the people. We are busting the human gut wide. Open with Dr Less. Fasano for the Center for Research and treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital. Join our discussion separating fact from on the controversial topic of leaky gut. Syndrome we are covering. Everything causes a leaky gut to interpreting the results of a Gut microbiome tests with is Dr alassio Casado the W Allen Walker chair of pediatric gastroenterology and nutrition and the director of the Center Priscila Research Treatment at Massachusetts General Hospital. Unless. You're welcome to science for the people. You for having me on the show. He used starace off by breaking down for audience. What exactly is leaky? Gut Syndrome Well, the definition of course depends. WHO ALLEGEDLY NO QUESTION Some people believe that. Does Not Exist and dissolution on. The fact that you know. The heard the guts. Is Dynamic it's a relatively new concept for the student line science complementary medicines been always aware that this is a eighth inning entity that has that dynamic capability modulate permeability while the. Would establish. Science was skeptical matter and the skepticism the even. Higher. When eventually this has been defined a syndrome like the separate disease and I believe that the evidence. We're coming right now. Since just that's not the case we that premise. The bottom line is following the intestinal score by single layer of cells. That until the recent past, we thought they were meant each other. So that the only way to interact with the external environment I would ever comes to detract was feed ellen nodding between cells. As being an only the best twenty years so. that. We realized that there is no semantic between cells, but they are very dynamic structures sort of gates close most of the time that. Are Cold Junctions and therefore because they're hates is in. Concept Today are dynamic for this commutable of. If they're open for too long. That will have clinical consequences. You can develop variety of conditions, diseases, depending who you are genetically speaking, so that's the bottom line, the essence of the League listening. Select controls whether or not the gates are open or close. This is definitely. The most challenging question to answer, because once we agreed, and again took her while that. This stretcher are dynamic, who makes the structure to be open and close and Open for too long to the point in which we develop diseases has been an object of discussion. It's hard to be settled however. I think that you know the two key elements that seem to have you know strong scientific evidence that can make the investment tunic are the following one. If there is a an unbalanced ecosystem, the gut so democracy by almost off-balance despite IOS. That's one possibility to increase permeability the guts. To a variety of Pro Inflammatory cytokines chemicals for use during inflammation can increase governability. Unless the definitely not least. Pro Dane that is cold. Ruling ladies, the trigger off variety condition mainly see disease that has some fragments on undigested, the capable to eventually governmental. These are so far the elements in we've found. TO BE INVOLVED IN INCREASE CAPANNA boy. You've just mentioned. It seems that research on this particular condition is relatively new. It's an emerging topic in the field of gastroenterology. So had a researchers come to discover. The occurrence of rookie got Cinderella humans. Well the you know again is typically happen in a situation like this most of the discoveries in the. Arena of leaky guts as being certainly to this so looking for something else than eventually you realize you know that the interested in has this dynamic capability to. its ability I can share my. You know experiences. It's definitely one of the many of certainties was funding in shorts, you know. You know snap systematic event long twenty five years story shorts. Oldest story started with making vaccine for college so nothing to do with the League developed. And one, I produce this maxine That was you know working. You know supposedly well, because the only weapon color uses is stocks Knicks. Dispersion diarrhea was eliminated the in this vaccine. Beijing's did not get severe diarrhea, but still have the residual diarrhea that made the vaccine or not acceptable, so the vaccine per state. was a failure. But then you trying to ask the question, why is this residual Doria? We a toxin mixing desk only. To. Increase. The permitted the gut. and. So that. That was you know a game? might person speeds the first? The first encounter on the concept that intestine can be leaky if if the structure in between cells are modulated this union open to all. In this case second to adults, and then trying to understand the mechanism how the stocks make Invest League. We got more more insights of the machinery. That is very complex. The you ought to demotion in order to have destruction between cells to open up. And if If web such complex machinery, and that means that we must have the system that we physiological designed sometimes to put emotion so that we can modulate the permeability of the guts. And listening that we looking. You know who modulate the permitted the guts. And finally almost went years ago now we found this Monica that. Still the only physiology leader that so this is the molecule that we use. To decide if and when to open the structure for. He told me a little bit more about Sonya in its role in the microbial. Yeah so. I just mentioned is is the key. They're open these gates. Or control whatever you want, you know us say as a combatant. Molecule that Delta the CEL. Listen you need. Open up the space with your neighbor cell. Because you know, we need to make stuff to back and forth through that space. In it again, we we now know. Much more that we knew before about this molecule, the pathways were kind of singling in the salaries activated to make you know destruction to become more permeable on, and so forth, and you know. So bottom line a lot. The feces allergy of you know. The The modulation permeability by by this market. But as typically happen if he solitary when you push this to. You end up in biology situation. In in this case we ask our software, the pathologic stimuli that will make zone to be released in an excess amount, and therefore making investment tunic for too long, and then created the syndicates for switching from genetic predisposition to a clinical outcome, translating disease and one of the key elements, probably the strongest stimulus to zone isn't it vials so on was microbiome off? Balance May eventually be the key element that will lead to. Increase permeability of the GUT secondly to How do people acquire this song? Live protein? Is it through diet? On Oh no threes, a sweep reduce insulin for example to control Google's level, we produce zoning to control permeability and the German ability is not just. The guts three's, a family of zones nicotrol the permeability Gut permeability of the kidney, the along the permeability of the blood camera so. This is a molecule that tweeted us. you know as a consequence of you know the needs to make this very to be permeable and black insulin production is usually dictated by the level of glucose. They have your blood for John. Lennon, its production is is. Trigger a by external stimuli a for the guts. These bottles that was telling you before and you know the. Gluten pro. A two of the stimuli decreed that. That sal up Wrigley chemises on. The issues associated with leaky Gut Syndrome has to do with this connection between the gut microbiome the immune system. He explained how that connection works. Actually Yup other disconnection is very titans. And is due to the fact that we now understand much more than we did. Before the complexity off the basis to develop diseases in the past. We believe that in order to allow disease. The two key unnecessary act, sufficient elements where genetic predisposition Soviet toward the GPS be disposed to develop all cancer, or you know out immune disease, whatever, and then the second element was exposure to environmental something in the environment that on specific genetic predisposition who lead you to the onset of this conditions. We now know that these are still elements are necessary, but not sufficient, and there are at least three elements That will be necessary. To develop any disease humankind that as a inflammatory condition and three much older. He's the. Inflammatory so you have to be genetically predisposed. To the trigger those again I'm necessary. Then heard island indeed is the loss of better function so that. This this environmental figure this is to gather information can access in our body, because on the normal circumstances, if the permeability of the got are, any bagger is well controlled can comes. The fourth element by the Finnish immune system that you ask for and the reason, why because we're talking information, so you have to have an hyper billy junior system. And the fifth element is again the compensation that most important the cop, the function of the microbiome. Now this last three elements, the strangulation between you know, permeability Mississippi in microbial seems to be seemly interconnected and ain't flint's each other. For example. If you have this bios that will increase. DONNELLEY's formed Scott from ability. If you increase gut permeability, and this person's your question. These trafficking molecules coming from this journal World into our buddy. And if the immune system is to. Any enemy he will ease builds to fight and to react against this invasion enemies and one you fights diesel was Glendarin. damages inflammation, and if you have an immune system as a belligerent, your ability increases, so is all interconnected, but. To make. Bottomline. In direct Andre Johnson to your question. If. You've got leaks throughout other stuff that comes through the system is under exposure design elements, and there were these will lead to. Increased response that will lead to commissions. There, there's a lot of complex interactions that play when it comes to leaky Gut Syndrome, and it seems like the syndrome is becoming very prevalent society today than it was more so that today than it was in the past I. Don't know how do with breakthroughs research, or if it's just a greater problems of this syndrome itself society and you mentioned that one of the underlying causes changing environmental factors. Do you think? This change in the environment is. The most significant cause of a leaky got becoming more common today. I believe this is combination of one increase awareness again. Even people. There are skeptical nine percent a little bit more about. The situation that the the league guts it can be into components of diseases, but also because as you mentioned the clear changing environment. that it's near prone to. Eventually Created this functional system. One Role, you know for example Diet, you know, of course we don't need the way they used to eat junk stuff. This creates this BIOS. And as I told you this by users can increase governability to the accessories zonal. Just that just the fact that we didn't need the way they used to. would justify you know the facts now we see more and more cases in which a impaired function of the guts can be key elements of of conditions. That's. You know. Can Vary from a you know why. A accusing from information to autoimmune disease cancer, these conditions which increased gutten. -bility again. People didn't like us. Seem because singer means. We don't know exactly what's going on when we start to have knowledge than you know this not become him, but will become a syndicate of a key elements to get. Why you develop these diseases. So if a change in our diet is part of the problem, you think controlling guy in different ways would be solution. While I believe the now there are. Increasing increasing evidence that Shinshu the died Kim be one of the key elements, the most effective elements to mitigate this. Epidemic of this chronic inflammatory diseases leaky got been. is or proved. You know, of course you know proving that deny the per se nick exchanges required some You know very work, and you know because this doesn't translate in any kind of assets that can mean revenues. To lead before example, these know much support from industry for something that will come like the Diet so You know that's you know that's the key elements slowing down on the professional knowledge on matter, nevertheless, I have to say that for example for you know situation, chronic inflammation is above all. The time about diseases like Crohn's disease of ulcer colitis odd are typically treated with the you know. Inflammatory drugs in the past. Now biologically so on and so forth now the. Prying intervention so in other words the really. I information that we do is change diets and this ginger diets that changed nocco Obama composition that eventually will immediately the released zone, and therefore the loss of better function that will translate in decrease inflammatory process so on the game you see how interconnected everything this and in this case nutrition in change. The microbiome composition that King Change. That can change the immune system interim inflammation therefore. Control of the disease. What got barrier is already broken down. It's been. Damaged over the course of years maybe even decades. Sue Is it still possible in that case repair that barrier through a chain diet, maybe taking supplements. So. Again no matter. How old are you? Your gut dissolves always seven days. And the reason why because the single layer of cells Israel rejuvenated every week, so we have very active stem cells in the guts that eventually will be capable to. Replenish replenish you know the damage cells, and therefore you know new cells are fishing in any kind of functioning supposedly building barry fashion. So you know the the the problem is not that you have now. Damaged. Organ like intestinal. You cannot repair anymore. This assimilate dynamic systematically can be changed over time depending on. How you will eventually. Provide the key elements to nineteen. You know this. Cross bonds checks between the Biol- The newsome end buyer function in physiological. Steve the mind so to speak so that you can diminish. Develop inflammation. Is there the news her main in particular I should disclose the I have a personal interest in this topic because I needed to condition that I may be experiencing. I suspect that I don't have a fully intact gut barrier because I've had moderate ECZEMA blast. Also noticed that I tend to get very tired after eating a meal. Digesting food is a lot more energy out of me than it should, and I've had other minor, but chronic digestive issues as well so I recently took a gut microbiome tests from a company called Viola I'm not sure if you're familiar with them, I. wanted to ask you what you think about. Companies offer. He's got microbiome tests personalized results. I can. This is the way of the future that the challenge that we have right now all this company, any company that also Mike Obama analysis is that you know Ah, first of all the technology to to test democracy these there, so that's not a problem anymore the technology to test the microbiome in economic waste there. So that's that's for the bowl. So. The problem is the petition so in other words. What a macrobiotic has a certain compensation. And again the the major problem I believe. Has Been creating a lot of confusion is always you know what we think a certain number of healthy individuals, so we will know what is the quote unquote normal microbial, but he's no such thing. You know we. We developed the composition of bio based on our perceived needs i. e you know who are you? What kind of genetic makeup for have because what is constant in all of us is that we have to attend all the same functions that's out of this. The same mega body function needs to be attended in order to stay healthy. And you know the question is. How you know do that so how we are capable to montaigne the constant function of of this metabolic pathway. An, the answer is only by adding a good symbiotic relationship between the host, particularly genetic makeup and the microbiome that will be able in a interacting with our. Genome to really make sure that these metabolic function attendant proper way would I explain is a very complex concept. genetics still lack every kind of door. Has You know a way to get in with a specific key so for us? If I my door I imagine the different than yours by the definition, the key that opened my door, so the idea microbiome is different than yours. Saying you know what is the normal macro? No means like to say what is the normal length of hair of the color of the hair that's. There is no such thing is very personal, is so when you goals to this company and say okay. Look at you Michael Bio and I see that his Hamas. Imbalanced compared to. What? And we don't have that information yet. We will over time doing some modeling. Particularly understand you know four on a specific genetic background. What is the Good Markham that keep us out? But that's for you or for me. And when we do the analysis microbiome, then the question is not for would will do normal people out there, but for me as an individual design depart from what is my the microbiome tents pathways that will keep me healthy healthier. Not, that's the question. Maybe what I think you're getting at. Is that in order to benefit from these gut microbiome tests? Maybe it would help to take these tests multiple times over a period of time while you're attempting to change your Diet Navy to see if that has an impact on your gut microbiome. Future so. In the future is known to have this genome, micromanager lies when you were half feet, and that's sell. Okay, this is when everything was well, and then eventually, if you develop the disease, then to the vast sentencing will translate in terms of you know the composition of Michael can I really this to. Change Second. Put me off. In four creating the problem that leads to inflammation, and if that's the case, now you target for. So. This is actually the first time I took. This amish and I thought I would just describe. The results might test you. Sue think so at my test results. Him In different forms I have a very long list of microbes are acted, got system, and I have a list of gut processes the I can score good ad or okay on site. They compare these scores to the average or the good that microbiome so for me. More than half of the process is on the list all under bad and. Are identified as issues for me to focus on. So there are ten of them that are bad for me. All listen for you. digestive efficiency and has barrier hell. Protein, fermentation, overall gas, action, methane, gas production. Pathways sulfide gas production packers. Ammonia production pathways. Who Interest production happy as uric acid, election pathways, and finally Chemo taxes and by relents pathways. Does any of information? Mean anything to you. Yeah I. Mean as I told you before. When we look at you, know a specific you know situation in terms of the interaction between the microbiome the host. Would we look at his? How Elise Interaction Translating Metabolic function that we want to be preserved, so if you have access methane production. If you have the butter function, jober us if you have your Nissim suboptimal working that means that this interaction is off balance. The problem remains that you can't make this kind of statement unless you know your own genome. How'd your microbial interact? We Are Gino. Show how translate eventually outcome that can make you sick, so that's kind of information that we don't have yet. Is Our guest the? Companies are putting on the table I'm breach wearing. The future will be able to be more precise any evidence based, but we're not that stage yet. I also received a list of my super. Foods to avoid take. So, how much confidence would you say you would have in the research backing up speculations nations once again, We will be there but I don't think that we're the quiet because we don't have the ECON-, windy she. died in the process understanding know. What kind of food intervention we have to. Go for in order to ameliorate. This bottles for example if you add as momentum. Of excessive gas production, or you know mid Mateen excessive meeting of your. Metabolism. Stereo specific microorganism limit the nineteen producer that means that you know you need to demine disadvantage to decrease their abundancy by. Eliminating food that they typically try on. Why given the the US to try to come bows microbial? But. We are not quite there yet. In terms of this kind of information, I can this process. We will simply that we're not quite there yet. I look forward to it. I told you. So I know Adema. My personal health issue that I thought would be suceed the he got I know. is not had not been proven to have a direct wing to leaky gut as of yet as far as I know by lights. Ask you how you think. wiki Gut could manifest itself in a symptom like Exa. Again. The you know. Any kind of inflammation, they have the same origin steps, so you are first of all born with some genetic makeup. You're exposed student environmental trigger that can use information. This figure may coming to your body to gut the Tuli. Dat system to. Generate information so those are common denominators of any Disease Union. Come from there on as basis. So your case when the immune system is activated, so this new cells seen the Anna. And therefore they're ready. Defy than junior information. Rather than to stay on the battlefield, highly investing their program to leave the investing in go somewhere else in this case, the skin and jubilee information there. And, we know this is fact because the love? This inflammatory cells in these different discussed the skinny. Your case or I don't know the bankers protect one diabetes were the joints for him ago. Try this this immune cells. They have a on their surface some. especially monitors. That tells us I once upon a time was homing in invested, how was leading in intestine? And then I left in Boston. And now I'm here junior information here. Touch some briefly already unsure. You realize how. He got cinemas a controversial topic that many people considered to be pseudoscience. One you. Off. I believe for civil because determines, be using the views by some you know healthcare professionals, particularly complementary medicine, doctors and Professional. Healthcare you know. Fears. And again. You know you lose credibility when you claimed everything that goes wrong in world is due to alleged gut. Plus I the same kind. This is due to the fact that some of canonical. Scientist, they were so close minded. They didn't see the possibility duck. This may have some elements. And when you have this very polarized discussion, you know is always you know some things you know that. Scenarios Black Consum- The scenarios white, but as you know, life is made a grave, this streams, and as you know a book. Writing, written by the winners and losers and the winners in this case being always decide if you stop. That had the capability to make very clear out there that this was voted science. Now you know that there is some strong basic elements to believe that you know. The Gut barrier is permeable. There is dynamic that involved in a variety of condition. Even the size of you stop wishing to be, it'll be neural, but minded still skeptical about this. Concept of Leaky Gut Syndrome as a separate entity that I also believe that. Probably does not exist because. Of this five years, you know if you have just Li got nothing else. Probably will not develop any disease. You got the BP Johnny predisposes. You need to be exposed to a specific instigator unique to have an immune system. These I- ability. And? You need to have a in microbiome of bouts, and inside mentioned before they all integrate soy heavily got dissolve official that he needs. System is operatives. Mac Obama's off bouts. So for that reason I believe that if we just slow down, step back a little bit, and say you know, let's let's be integrated here Alexa. Minded. and. You ask in a different way so the question. I believe there's more agreement that you can imagine so if you if you if you asked to wait. Basis Stein this right now. The question. Do you believe that the Lease Syndrome exists? Probably here? She is uncertain. No, it does not exist, but if you answer, do you believe got? The permeability can be mostly the so that sometimes it got his leakier in some other times and these create problems. You probably will year answered. Yes, I believe that it's possible. So see same concept expressing two ways you have two different answers is a very good point. And I know that you personally conducted research on the connection between Vicky, Guy and Behavioral invented conditions like autism or schizophrenia, some curious about. Where that connection comes from. Well Again You know the connection calms for the new concept and I'm not an expert in the such much that even be able to issues are consequence of of inflammation. This case information the brain or nearing Mitch. And, therefore you know I. Don't think that modern leash seems to complicate it if you know develop inflammation got there despite pinterest. If you have seen five, Peterson involved in the information off your joined or your kidney oreo lever why the brain should be a difference and the we'll look into that sure enough. We found that kids with them. Autism men subsequent schizophrenia. Only happening, he's got permission. But they also have seeming dynasty and increases the blind matter with the same machinery. Zoning been involved so for me. This is not much of a thrice. So I want to know how exactly research on leaky gut works how scientists in the field of gastroenterology go about conducting research on the presence and the impact of leaky gut in humans. Your this is one of the key elements that make science complicated because he feared idea, but you don't have tools to study to challenge his idea. You can't conduct no meaningful experiments in when comes to humans, experiment, humans, you know. There are some. Ethical Bianca logical rules to be followed so themself eventually you can do animals with that said. One of the major shortfall for the studies, elite humans is being A. Test biomarker to measure after. The are some tests the up. Very complex like the W sugar test Alexis Monday tests novice, suggest for Tzoment that is commercialized now for a while. You know had been used now more more frequently more in in search setting than you know in clinical setting that will come later problem a when these debts will be even more strongly validated, so, but the bottom line. Is that the game? These are the kinds of tool that we use to study. If indeed the intestinal barrier lost its function. You know link to a specific diseases. That's how you know it did has been expanding in linking in a variety of conditions with this Leaky Gut, now again the question remains is the leaking at the cost of the disease or the consequence, because you can make an argument that you develop a disease as a consequence intestinal leaks. you know this is very very difficult to answer in in humans, but in animal models where we can control much more oldest variables. We have the evidence that just it's. A loss of function comes before the onset disease and again support the notion that he's one of the five key by pillars that you need. Information. That leads to another question. Of the research on leaky got published published papers in journals are not accessible to the public. So how can the public find accurate information about leaky gut? Yeah, that's another major problem out of courses. You know more more, you know of June. The you know advocate for open access and and even Gorman like the Nih year then he needs to do. The United States supports the vast majority of research day, both that if used public money unique to make your results publicly available, and therefore, when you published in June, you need to make sure that the June will make this. so that's definitely. Moving the right direction in terms of getting access to information I've to say that you all combatant comparing it to I. Don't know fifteen twenty years ago. The scenario is much better now. Because now we have access the Internet that you can give you A. Snapshot in the more out there the challenge, the cabinet there though is that some of nation. You know on on on on web to use a a term. The now is Houston abuse are fake news so in other words. Validated? Oxide generated before so personally I would advise that you don't just leading the blogger that you know that you know if you. Percents Ex, you've only got, or the leaky guts is involved in such and such disease. I will always lie on peer review papers in journals, and you know the more. You know sources are unbiased objective and we'll tell you the things the way they. That was kind of I was getting at. Early big issues to resolve because you know even if research results are published and are available to the public for free information is really difficult for the average person to understand. You A lot of these people they are getting a lot of information from blogs written by people who have been writing these laws, because you're not familiar with research. They're not doing the research I think this is a bigger issue and adversely The solution is the joint well. This is what we're doing now you know shows like yours are really mean to bring down a few notches from scientists that that did speak total different language to event, the legible communication to translate to the general audience. Would exactly you got needs why the consequences whatever we discussed today? these is the best vehicle possible which UTICA reservoirs show. You invite reputable speakers that will give you a reputable land and validated information. As embarrassed since. I had this great place to enter interview so I have one more passionate for you. Can you tell us where our listeners can go to learn more about your research? Well again and they can definitely go to our. Website You know a website that is specific for seated disease, and a website is more for our research enterprise in combat in many of these discuss today. so I am directing. A mucosal immunology and biology center. We are day active on social media. so we have almost twenty thousand followers. Of course we're not talking about meeting, but we're not talking about the small number either Many of the stuff that we discuss today, are in what we call wlove so video blob that we put out on Youtube, so you just take Google mining, youtube and some are very short two minutes straight to the point some are. Much year United beautiful participation in days. Something on the leaky got this well out there. And you know again. You know through our website Google mining. Look at you two. You will definitely find. A lot of information that can be pertinent to the discussion. Outta the matter that we accord today. Thank you so much for your time. But thank you for me on the show. If. You want to learn more about Dr. Last Youth Asano at the Center for Research Treatments. You can check out his legs on our website at Triple W. Dot, scientists people dot, ca thanks for listening. We'll see you next week on science for the people. Science for the people is listener supported. 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11/15: Start or Sit (NFC); Myles Garrett Reaction and More (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

11/15: Start or Sit (NFC); Myles Garrett Reaction and More (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports Gov email us at fantasy football ed CBS. I DOT COM DOC upset. It's time I started or sit. Cheney antiques Okay welcome to the Friday show. You know I love to start with energy and happiness and you'll be all about fantasy football. Why did you have to go and do that myles Garrett Garrett that was not cool that was not cool not all right you guys Jason Jabe? You are the commissioner for a day Albert Hands. We've got a five game suspension for stopping shopping. On someone. How many games giving myles Garrett Games are prison sentence do I mean he's going to be suspended for the rest of the season? He should be suspended for the rest of the season. Maybe four games next year as well. Am I Sola Commissioner. Yeah you are for refer a day. I've eliminating extra points and every touchdowns worth seven and you can risk one point with the what's now a two point conversion and you'll also get points for a really cool touchdown celebrations. You're welcome. You think he's going to be EH. It's better leader sitting in jail. You think he's GonNa be out for the season Oh without a doubt you got you. You have to send a message here. I think the browns defended browns. Said you're right. They have the option to suspend them himself and themselves and they should one hundred percent mega statement that we support you miles miles your car guy but what you did cross the line and you're gotta sit out the rest of the season. Sorry and it makes the matchup against the browns that much easier for everybody that plays them including the dolphins oftens in week. Number twelve wasn't very good for Mason. Rudolph yesterday okay. We're GONNA RECAP. That game played. beat the waiver wire Give out some stats. Interesting listing weaken the Games. We're going to preview. Today are the saints at the box. Dallas at Detroit Atlanta at Carolina Arizona at San Francisco Chicago at the Rams and the jets at Washington. There I think are a couple of other. NFC Home Games that they're not in this show. He did them yesterday. So let's start with this Thursday night game and just carnage. I mean in addition to the fight you had juju Smith Schuster Andy Andre Johnson. Leaving with concussions. Deonte Johnson's was so scary. James Connor re-aggravating aggravating. It's scary yet but the I guess the visual of the blood coming here at him just being really out of it but yeah they both were bad. You're right where where do we start with We had another rental got. I'm sorry ejection Randall. Guy Dejection for Johnson right to Cleveland. Defensive backs Max left one with an injury won the agenda. Both safeties right so all right. Let's start with the steelers here and can we even give fantasy analysis or would you need some some updates here. Yeah we'll get in the coming days because they do have Cincinnati next week but obviously they're they're down some some guys. I mean I think the first thing is clearly the health I know what you're listening to Connor you gotta be concerned at this point that he may miss multiple weeks you know. Maybe he came back to soon He clearly was bothered by shoulder You know if you watch the game you saw him say that as he was coming off the field at the end of the And of his last Carey. And so you know at this point Joe Samuels is to owned Know if he was dropped in in a couple of drop them in one where it's A. It's a weird lineup. Setting so I didn't need him even if he is the starting running back for the steelers I'd like to have him. You know so. Nobody else does but I dropped him yesterday. You know so there are some some some circumstances where he may be on waivers. And maybe Trey Edmunds as we saw. was you know it was back to what they did. Three games ago. After conor I was out it was edmonds on running downs. And and and Samuelsson receiving downs or passing downs. And you saw him catch a touchdown and then James Washington you know if Juju Johner out He's been picking things up. I wouldn't look at Holton Despite the fact that he had Either close to ten targets or over ten targets. He had three targets in a row at one point and it was ugly on all three. Yeah you know I mean it was. Rudolph was running for his life. The offensive line was a disaster and now pounds. He's probably GONNA get suspended for at least one game will be my guest for his role Yeah Yeah and So that puts a damper on things for Rudolph. But like you said it's the Bengals so I think Washington is somebody look off waivers Vance McDonald now as well Because the the Bengals can't defend tight ends and so beyond those two. It's IT Samuels. And maybe Edmunds and McDonald. Had his end zone target. He had his chance in the game and Rudolf to overthrow him. It was just brutal brutal but if all those guys are out of Judas out at the entrees out of Connor's out I think it does open the door for McDonalds a decent stretch right next week and you know it. Bruins Rudolph as a stream of those guys are out because as I didn't ask yeah. Well if if he had all those guys against the bengals not a top twelve guy but a streamer streamer for. I guess you're right about that but I just think the way that he played last night. It's just gonNA leave an awful taste in people's house and they're not gonNA WANNA use that anyway even if those guys I'm I'm totally with you. But I think it's a different game if he has Juju for four quarters if he has connor for four quarters. I it's not going to be much better. But it's just it's not a fair judge of how he probably would have played. I mean he's forcing the ball to Holton. They didn't run the ball you know. I don't think he was good even. I don't think he was wrong on that. Good I'm willing to resort. Also totally with you totally with. Yeah he take away. You take away is to best players and it's really not a fair comparison. What he would be facing next week with the bengals all right Jalen Samuels is seventy nine percent owned and of course? We'll talk about him on Tuesday it just in case he is available on any leagues. You go to the Browns Baker Mayfield. We'll start do a little bit better twenty-five fantasy points in this game this is Believe is best game of the season. And it's funny though you say three total touchdowns and twenty five five fancy points and that really doesn't match up so much weight he's just make some really bad throws it it's perplexing but we also had some bad luck I mean I will say this the one touchdown to the backup tight end was lucky. Oh Yeah Oh my God what a stupid. Throw the field goal dude. That was so risky. Oh but yeah and baron not turning around But you know back falling down at the one yard line I know he got the rushing touchdown as a result but still back and falling down at the one yard line and then and not getting the two feet in bounds on the other potential score. You know those things just seem to happen to the browns. I guess but look I mean his last five games. He said twenty points twelve points at New England. Eighteen points Denver twenty-one against Buffalo Twenty five against Pittsburgh. You're talking about good defenses. Here eight eighteen Denver's not bad that's when he went against Buffalo's not bad. Twenty five against Pittsburgh is not bad So that's how often right Miami then Pittsburgh and Cincinnati then Arizona's three of us next four games Baker sixty two percent owned and maybe can put together a nice run such a shame Beckham. 'cause he really ended up having a pretty bad game four four catches for sixty yards by almost had the touchdown to is to Jarvis. Landry actually better fantasy option arrests season than Odell Beckham. I don't know better but on par because the only thing really landry's doing differently finding the end zone you you know so like you. You look at the targets the last two weeks. What twenty two targets last? Two weeks for Beckham So they're trying. Yep they're absolutely trying to get him going and as the schedule sets up like he's you know if you just if somebody's not looking at the schedule and just looking at his production just been completely frustrated On a fantasy team team that's teetering for the playoffs and you can offer something. That can help them that. They may not see the dolphins next week. It's probably you missed that boat but Still if you can like now's the time to train Beckham because with the schedule setting up the way that it is and Mayfield playing better in the offensive line playing a little bit better It's it should be a good finish back on but it's just been such a frustrating start and what I've noticed. This is that they do a good job of scheming. Up Jarvis Landry. The touchdown was a good example of that last night. Where he's out wide and then he just does shallow cross he was only receive around? I know and and but they've done something like that with Landry a couple of times each of the past several games I'd say it might even be all year and I just didn't notice it until now it's also let me look back comes drawing the tougher cover. You know. He's going to typically get. The browns are taking. Yeah and and that's just you know maybe Freddie Kitchens and todd mock and evolving as. They're learning their team and and what they have at their disposal. Look it's been up down. They traded Johnson before the season. David the joke has been out since week one You know finding the right way to use Beckham Beckham talked about this in the post game interview. Yesterday he's he's like it's still. I'm still learning Baker. I mean that's the natural core. Hate hearing that now though I mean it should have been expected. You know that really. You think it's like a guy being any trading in the middle of the off season absolutely together in training camp last weekend I but I get work coming from because I see it when they play. It's it's still learning somebody's tendencies and just the things you have to go through some guys get a quick and there was like a mark cooper super last year. Being traded to the cowboys he picked up with doctor. I remember talking to Amari at the pro bowl. And he said we spent every waking moment looking overplays and going through things Baker. And Odell. Probably don't do that yeah. I don't want to speculate showing up. No but I think you can't Um based on and so you know look All it takes is these target continuing and the production's going to start to come with these matchups. That are head for him. So the best of Beckham is is probably at Tacoma. Unfortunately he's probably wrecked a lot of fantasy teams because of where you draft. Yeah Oh yeah for sure. So I think we're all probably in that boat and some of our leaks nick. Twenty seven carries. That was nice. Did Not get in. The end zone did not catch such a pass so he had to catch last week. Kareem Hunt he's passing down sky there on the field a lot together but Kareem hunt has now thirteen catches in two games and he looks like a I and another reason why bakers played better. Yeah for sure yeah. He's giving him on dirty four and forty six receiving yards in two games. He was started in forty three percent of it was just kind of A. Bummer are because you know Beckham was starting a lot of leagues. Juju was started in seventy one percent. They were bad. James Connor restarted eight percent. He had five carries for ten yards. He had one catch for six yards. He left with an injury. Baker Mayfield was only started in like Oh Gosh he's owned in sixty two percent of leaks. WHO started into it? It's gotTa be to quarterback back League. I mean I have them in in two two two. QB Leagues and that's the only place. I have him and I started in. Both I thought was going to get a chance to score on the Landry touched on because he who is in the Backfield I thought maybe they were gonNA give. They had him down there a couple times. You know where it was Chop off the field so we could be seeing not necessarily a changing of the guard in terms of off. Who's going to be the lead rusher but you know you look at the two guys and hunt looks way more explosive right now And then last thing Pittsburgh. DSP was very disappointing appointing. And I think it was that last touchdown after the stupid interception that set them up like inside the ten that was just the nail in the coffin. 'cause they weren't they didn't have a good game. I think the only one sack they didn't force any turnovers but they could have given up. Fourteen points would have been a lot more respectable. But that that late touchdown their offense put them in a bad situation. But you know don't drop them because they're gonNA come right back at it with. The bengals schedule is great. Going forward as in that these these two teams play again in sixteen days. Now it's just it's just insane. What could potentially have like the the? NFL's going to have to. They'll be. They'll be told numerous times that they got what you just wonder like. Obviously obviously Garrett suspension is going to be past next week or two weeks but pounds right around guys. I Bet I bet it is two games in that way they missed the the rematch right. 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The NFL could have a seventeen game regular season schedule by twenty twenty one. Does that mean. We're going to be playing into week. Seventeen and not playing week eighteen that yes yes okay Patch home says. He feels the best. He's felt since week. One that's good. They're in Mexico City to face the chargers on Monday night Matthew Stafford did not practice. You guys has not ranking him right now right crowd I in general and we will preview this game but Dallas has been very good against wide receivers. Although every touchdown they've allowed to receiver fever has been in their road games. This road game for Dallas you. How do you feel about Marvin Jones and Kenny? God it's hard to get away from kindergarten as you saw last week you know even with Jeff Driscoll skull he could still be productive Jones better than non Pr North Score. But you know he's he's a number three receiver. He's apt to understand that it could be a bad. Just go game and and could be bad Joan Kim. What a strange thing to say about Marvin Jones that he's better? NPR since he was like one of the poster child for better at non PR. Yeah I mean look. They had five catches last week with. No you're right you're right I'm not. It's just weird the kind of season he's having him Mike Evans Patches. And Yeah We'll flooring Evans. Mike Williams Cuban willful. There was limited in practice George expecting will fuller at this point. Yes we am ranking yet but we are probably and we will we will rank will fuller George Cater at George he will oh he will drop a pass George will sanders missed practice. We're not thinking they're gonNA play Adam Theo and has announced to play but probably not as of now it would not make sense for Minnesota to play him. Yeah we always say that but guys like to play I get it but their bye week is next week. There will L. aggravated the injury once. Why would risk it? Yeah it's a good point Jack Doyle did practice so that is good so does brown this week and a good matchup format specific specific for me. I'll take doyle. NPR Bron. I think I have it right. The exact same way toilet. I think I'm back to back in both if he brown's GonNa get twelve targets again. That'll a big thing Marcus Brown missed practice and do we think that he's got a chance of market. I don't think so. He's he's been in and out of practice for weeks now last week I I actually I thought he missed practice. One Dave I thought he was. I thought maybe limited one day he they have a maintenance Ninsu routine with him right. It looks like he'll play. I like him this week if he plays Bill Callahan said Darius guys will get work this week and he. They are facing being the team that gives up the fewest yards per carry running backs in the New York jets. I have been making the case that we don't know how good the jets run defenses without Leonard Williams because they've faced the dolphins offense and Saquon Barkley play hurt but still very impressive Are you getting away from the Redskins. Running backs or Kaz Peterson has been really steady and non PR four straight weeks three of his last four eleven eleven or more points in that format I think you have to just for two reasons. One like you said the jets run defense has played better and you have doing haskins starting so who knows how this offense will will look with him. You know under center center coming off a bye week could be better most likely probably not But with guys playing it. Just there's there's too much uncertainty there so in unless you're stuck like I have a talk choice in our podcast league were. My running backs have become a problem. Where have Boston David? Johnson and Adrian Peterson or my guys and I thought I was fine with editor and David Johnson. I'm actually debating David Johnson Adrian Peterson. That's how bad it is which I think it's a no brainer to go with. Adrian Peterson In a PR league. It's not a no-brainer. 'cause I mean Peterson's basically two catches at best and if David Johnson's right you know he's still has a chance to do a little bit better in that regard So right now I'm playing Johnson But but you know Peterson could not see very many carries it. We just don't know David Montgomery Scott an ankle injury. Yeah this one looks pretty significant because he was limited Wednesday and they didn't catch up Thursday Matt Nagy said. He rolled the ankle and thought he got hurt Wednesday. He got hurt on Wednesday. But they say I guess he got hurt and therefore therefore he was limited that day and then. He didn't practice on Thursday if he does the brightest on Friday. I don't like his chances to play against the rams and it would be a tough match even if he did play sure and They just got rid of Mike Davis so the timing is super duper To recon should see a lot of work and I think the other running back. They have his Ryan all yup that his name mm-hmm how do we. I don't know I don't know if that's how you pronounce his name but yes talking about. He was on draft rookie free agent. How do we spell that? JUST IN CASE WE WANNA pick him up zero K and they're no N. A. L. L.. Okay okay great so Ryan all for the bears organs. Eight do expect the six to two thirty thirty eight. He's a he's a big boy little patterson to okay. Do you expect the following players Levy on bell at Washington. Yes Gerald effort against. It's the bears Sunday night. Yes Josh Jacobson face yes. Yeah Robbie Anderson Washington yes hill play eh stats to know Atlanta race zone. Who said what sat out? Oh He's out okay. Now he's quite as I did. Let's look at the Falcons and their red zone and targets inside the ten yard line nine. So Julio Jones has six red zone targets all year four targets inside the ten. which isn't that bad? Calvin really is three red zone targets one inside the tent. That's not good. But they're now without awesome hooper. He leads the team in both red zone. An Green Zone targets devante Freeman at five reds targets and three inside the tent. So you know not. I'm not going to give analysis or anything I have to say. And obviously there are some opportunities. Insure yardage in the red zone inside the ten yard line for more touchdowns. Hopefully Julio Jones may be Calvin Ridley will see or Russell Gaijin Luke stocker exactly. Yeah or Jaden Graham said the burden Drew brees here are fantasy points. In six point passing touchdown leagues in his last six games at Tampa Bay fourteen eleven twenty four four four fifteen and sixteen one good game five pretty bad games at Tampa Bay. They are the worst they are to take. Pick the second worst against quarterbacks what do you think about brees this week outdoors on the road against the bucks. It's a proof of game. I mean you know. He did not play particularly great last week. He was very good two games ago. But you know the both games were at home I think the only only way that they can move the ball successfully is going to be through the air whether it's short passing game or taking some shots but that's not typically what they do. I mean you know it's a it's a very very limited offense in terms of going down the field. Despite having you know what could be too good D- threats and Ted Ginn and tricon Smith so I can't see them winning this game without having breeze playing at a very high level unless James just gets completely off the rails and they have some defensive scores. So I I'll buy in Tabriz still I think. He's He's worth trusting even in and his bad track even gives bad track record at Tampa Bay. I think the saints are chasing points in this game. I think I think I think Tampa Bay wins. I think it's going to be. I think it's a tough game for for New Orleans. I think drew brees will fall into good production You're GONNA into stardom. The that bucks defense is just the the secondary has so many week holes in it but that offensive line for New Orleans is going to be targeted. They're going to the bucks are gonNA blitz like crazy against drew brees all right last stat nondecimal scoring looking at one of our six points per passing touchdown non. Pr Leagues Again. non-pwi we are six points per passing touchdown. Only four quarterbacks have scored more fantasy points than Christian McCaffrey. That is amazing start. Sid Et is more flexible. But I'd believable. Yeah wow okay start sitter flex it best Robert Woods against the bears start better. NPR Than Todd. Gurley against the bears. I still have them as a start but a low end number two. It's if this were a week where we didn't have four good teams on by. I would probably have girl outside of the top just to give you an idea. Brian Hill and Ronald Jones should be started over Tiger Laser Ronald Jones one. It's tough though because yeah is eight. You know the saints but let me tell you about right. It's all a matter of if Brazilians does what he he says. We're GONNA do it. We're going to keep him as him as we saw last week. It was a great scenario for Ronald Jones. And if that continues then he's going to be really good. But here's the thing that that that bothers me about Ronald Jones. He was facing a team. This that's going to be a little bit wrong but it's close. He was basically a lion's head given up fifteen or or more fantasy points in non seven straight running backs. It was something like that. It was unbelievable match up and he scored but he was really bad running the football so so I agree with the Lions. Yeah yeah to the cardinals. Sorry zone is talking about David. Montgomery and David Montgomery Jones. They both had these great matches with the cardinals and the lions were both giving up a ton of fantasy points week after week after week. Two running backs and neither of them ran the ball. Well Montgomery Aubrey got like seventeen carries. Whatever sixty yards something awful and Ronald Jones scored and he had the passing touchdown receiving work but it bothered me see that he did so badly against the cardinals now? This is one of the best run defenses. He needs that passing production. The I'm I'm totally with you. This is more about girly for me than it is about. Ronaldo I Ronald Jones is set up is better than girls is because a you know if Washington you know the hope would be. Is that what we saw last week in the passing game. If what Bruce Arians says continues then that could be a little bit of staple for him that can hopefully boost his numbers a little bit. Forget about the touchdown. The second thing would be that girlie is now down to offensive lineman for an offensive. That stinks and so all the bears run defense has been bad. I think it just gets counteracted. By how bad the rams rushing offense has been and we we saw again last week. Malcolm Brown comes back and it's back to the stupid rotation again we're girlies off the field and barely play in the fourth quarter. So unless that gets changed. I can't had trust girly unless he scores. That's the scenario that you're dealing with here so he's not playing in the passing game. He's losing carries two two other guys because they still gave Henderson. Four carries last week and so- Ronald Jones while he did lose work to pain bar after the fumble if he's going to be playing on passing downs and getting let's say five cats and I think he's GonNa Eight but four five. That's going to be a nice situation to look forward to look look forward to and build off of the only thing I'll say is that I have to give Sean mcvay some benefit of the doubt here and if he knows his offensive line socks socks and he knows that Jared Goff is going to be under pressure one and a half seconds after the snap. He's GonNa get rid of the ball quick and that would put girly in position to catch a lot of passes and try and screen them out and make plays after the catch. He's been so mad at that though he's able to handle I think I I don't think he can do it consistently like I don't think if he got let's just go crazy raising say nine targets and the game I could catch seven of them but he might only get fifty yards off those seven. I mean look I get it if somebody wants to trust earlier. Ronald Jones included included. bodyworks is much more favorable girl. But I'll take my chances with Jones as best if you think to have as and when the game. I don't think they're winning the game just by throwing the ball. I know but it's not going to be Ronald Jones. Finishing in the game it's going to be barber. Areas did make that clear. The reason I was so passionate about this is I have that decision to make at least five running backs at a P P R league. Brian Hill Ronald Jones. It's Joe Mixon Todd Gurley and Philip Lindsay and I'm sure they're all fairly close to the rankings and I'm GONNA be three. Yeah yeah all right. Let's go on. Let's move on to start sitter flex at best Allen Robinson against the rams Allah Robinson Brexit F. A. B. How about Sam Darnold Washington flexible stream the best How about James crowder Washington revenge game START FLEX at best. I'd start your term maclaurin Oren against jets. I know the match of looks good. He's Affleck's best. I'd start him. crowder maclaurin crowder Crowded crowder PR. mclernon none. I'll take crowder in both seatgeek or maclaurin I like. I like the fact that they're gonNA move him around in the offense Cowan's into the. WHO's the quarterback again I'm probably a crappy quarterback very similar to the one that got her has no they do not slander that. I don't think dolls that bad all right. Well if you want some cheap see what while I do this. I'm going to look up. How how much you need to spend to go to the redskins? Let's get to seek gap go and Redskins jets escapes. Let's see how much tickets are going for. What do you think like? Let's say like End Zone lower level end zone guys. Take a guess Redskins jets thirty thirty nine. That's too low forty nine forty nine okay and find what tickets are starting at thirteen dollars. I can tell you that now. I'm going to look right tickets. I typed hyped and redskins. Got The jets. At redskins. Here comes the interactive's get tickets interactive seat map or I got a bunch of green dots on the twenty seven bucks in the end zone. How `Bout that thirty bucks right in the center? 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That is fresh off the twitter machine. all right when we got Jay Gye the former Eagles linebacker Greece who covers the team and does a lot of media in Philadelphia said that if the eagles sign gye and bring him into replace Boston Scatter Darren sproles concerned about the health of Jordan. Howard make sense shoulder? He's got a shoulder injury. He's been limited in practice It could mean that Jordan Howard is not gonNA play J.J. I if he signed Friday or Saturday This is a guy that knows. The offense in Philadelphia could end up having a noticeable role against New England on Sunday. And maybe moving forward. Yeah you you might be able to get them before beating the waiver wire you can get them right now all right so we definitely have to be concerned about you gotta keep an eye on. What's happening in Philly? Yeah and we love we like Howard and if he doesn't going to like Mile Sanders all right Zach Paschal. He's at Houston next week. The GOPRO setback had some success with percent and percent himself at USA next week. That might be a quarterback you turn to Mitchell trubisky against the giants screens stranger things. Taylor Gabriel against the Johnny Season's worth of let's You know here's a guy. I don't know if you've noticed but every single time that this guy gets work. He does well. And we're over. One hundred career carries now at six point two yards per carry Rahim Mostaert. It's a long shot but I think he's a flex this week. Yeah one hundred percents. He's good now. Every time he said seven more carries is average at least four point four yards per carry. This guy has been very productive when he stays in the he's been in the League big since two thousand sixteen teams he's been including practice squad no vital four seven well Jacoby said I mentioned Ryan Tannehill. I know it's tough match-up against Jacksonville. But you know he's been playing pretty well Yup ten versus foles Nice turns of. DST's the titans against the JAGS remits Titan. I'd get to the tight end so who owe hollister. Oh Jacob hoster yeah I wait a minute. Yeah and where the. Where's dairy Slayton on this list? Not that you you have to start them in week. Twelve but somebody to stash you go there in a tunnel leagues and Daniel Jones has great rate match-ups coming up. This one against the bears is not but his playoff schedule is I think. The Eagles Dolphins and Redskins Just in case that's just in case he's cert- Winkelmann Detroit. DST at Washington you're right wing Goldman and dinners. ESPN's at Buffalo Detroit might be one that you go running. Get all right here we go. Let's go to the Games Tampa Bay. Dave thinks the bucks are going win river. No marshon lattimore. Here's that is good. Here's your stat of the game. These run defenses. Dances are nasty. These teams are top. Three in fantasy points allow two running backs top five and receiving yards per game to running backs top six yards per carry allowed allowed to running backs. So there's that is there any scenario where you sit Alvin Kamara. I know that sounds a little wacky but look he has has been struggle he has not been great non PR. I think he's GonNa catch a ton of passes so you know that's GonNa be yet eight last week. I think it's probably safe to say it'll be in that range again. does breeze the ball of his quick member. They're down Awesome Pete. So that's GonNa be a tough offense of line Andrew Andrew Studio. Yes Andrew. Pete Beep BEEP BEEP EP So you know. I'm sure it's breeze. Getting the ball. Quick so is he going to have success. Running between the tackles tackles probably not But I think this could be a hundred yard game for him and chances score through the air so I have Josh Jacobs ranked ahead of him for for one. And I think maybe Melman Gordon non. Pbr so you could have. Maybe somebody traded for Melvin Gordon or or you know in some cases like I know one of my tainting leads. He was dropped. Because somebody had to make roster moves and I picked up. Melvin Gordon You could have Gordon Jacob's only the play tobacco. Okay too. Cute to start like Single terrier Damian Williams over him I would not but I mean uh you can but it's for me in the rankings. Williams is is probably not going to have as much success. Running is not typically what he does so I think they're kind of someone charging my chances with. Yeah but it's I mean even in his good game against the chargers what he went for seventy yards. Yeah yeah look I I imagined Kamera star percentage going to be up in the nineties so mood point a drew. BREES is top six for you guys and a gave us that about you know at Tampa Bay. We know he's on the road but man Tampa Bay like not only. Are they off against the pass. They're down cornerbacks too so he start drew brees should. Yeah Okay Michael. Thomas starts at well now stardom. I guess Mike Evans though gets a little lucky with no lattimore. So you don't have to worry about that. Not a little lucky not look. He did not have a catchy. F S Lucky. DFL Yeah you know. He was out of my life I might have to. I might have to change that. I might have to get Mike Evans. It there is cheap. I know that's why he's yeah. He's got to be in their interest. The US all right. So Godwin Thomas and Evans. By the way WHO's the number one wide receiver points per game in non PR in this game in for the season. Yeah and it's not Michael Thomas Because I think could be. Yeah I'm GonNa Guess Michael Thomas can you know do you are wrong. It is a mobile's positive. It's bike so you don't even know I'm pretty sure I saw do it right now. Abdu to read it it'd be stassinopoulos stats to. Maybe maybe evidently. Maybe it is bike. Evan he is number yeah he's number one By by over one full point in non. Pr Michael Thomas Okay. latavius Murray and Peyton barber sit them. No Ah yes okay. Yeah good to know any other wide receivers other than those big three. No it's Dr Thorough with with drake lawn and GIN so no agreed. It's too bad too because you'd love to play the match up call one streamer. I'm sure they'll take some shots and one could score. If you WANNA take a chance on one fan you can. I would still lean over trae. Kwan- yeah it's just too risky but could be actually pretty good. We'll spend the number two receiver at this point. Right number three commercial. We'll spend time on Jamieson and Ronald Jones and compare them to some other guys. Talk about the match ups but Jared Cook Karoji Howard Jerk Yep Howard's is set. We love I would. I would take a chance on Howard if you're stuck. Let's see if I was up. I'd head to the hills So they are the saints are ninth against tight ends but they've really only faced too good once and both of them scored art disley scored Hooper scored. So not quite. I mean he's GonNa if he's GonNa play the same amount of snaps that he did last week and run the same amount outs. Then he's got a chance. Syrian say it was because because the matchup and if they're looking at matchups to scheme up. OJ Howard. They'll look at this one and they're gonNA say ye tough saints have been good against tight ends. Well no they haven't told you so so have a habit I th they they. They've been good against bad. Well may touch giving up too tight end so sure to again. Let's face good tidy right. They've been good against bad. Ed Tight ends. And how would you how. It's been pretty bad. Most of the season. They're coming off a game where he played well and was involved. James played well so it's an easy throw for him to make in the millfield where he doesn't have to stress against you know still facing a good pass rush so I think I'll still be okay. Can I give you a statue. No career meetings no Jay Howard. It's it's a No. OJ Howard under sixty yards no touchdowns three career games against the saints. I'll say easy match for Ma'am he's not a bad. It beat the waiver wire guy he does have good match-ups coming up after this and if he does well again he sixty one percent owned Howard does well again in this game. People might buy all the way back in he might be close to one hundred percent. You know so oh you should absolutely take them not a bad stash if you can afford a twelve let me check my place. Atlanta Atlanta Lanna and Jacksonville than indy. That their next year the next four playoff schedule is pretty good Detroit and Houston and fifteen and sixteen all right fellas. Let's talk about James Winston here her and yeah. What's your level of confidence in him? I this it's tough to know. This is a good pass defense but without their best cornerback. We don't know he's going to be under duress. I mean they're going to. They're going to ask them and they're gonna get after you know. I think this is a defense that will bounce back after what happened last week. But he'll he'll be James Game you know you're you're probably looking king at if he doesn't turn the ball because the thirty fantasy points if he turns the ball over which he typically does he probably going to be twenty-five at best he's in he's a guy who start you know it's just a matter of do you get cute and start. Derek Carr or Josh Allen over him those are probably the only guys that you may be debating car you know. They're both thought waiver. Wire guys is because car was over. Eighty percent owned announced over ninety percent on so John. Starting Kyle Allen over that. That was my question. Yeah I think starting Kyle over James No no way Jamieson top five for me. Whoa I think I think he has? I think he's lights out. I think Mike Evans has his way with whatever defensive back the saints put on them without Lattimore there I think it changes the defense completely. Not having a shutdown cornerback there. It might mean they can't blitz as much and I think Godwin gets back on track this week to I think the receivers have a huge game game. Okay Ronald Jones or Brian Hill. Who I'm sorry? Brian Hill okay. Ronald Jones loans or Great Hall analyst. James White Brian Hill in. Both I think you said Ronald Jones or James Way. He said Ronald James White. I meant to say that Ronald Jones or James White I'll take Ronald Jones and non. Pr James White Paper. I think I I think I feel like you. Feel row firm from how Jefferson crowder or Ronald Codes crowder for Sharon. PP VP are in crowder. Non as well for me I'll take crowder. NPR Ronald Jones. Ninety all right. I'll do more wide receiver here. Ronald Jones or Curtis Samuel. He's going to really be tough for me because I know we're going to get a ton of Chris tough every week man yeah I will take Samuel nine or more non-pwi. Pr Points Three of his four games. I'll take Ronald Jones and non Pr uh-huh Samuel and bigger okay Let's let's go to our next game. Dallas at Detroit by the Way Saints. Ds's top ten ask F F not this weekend. If you have fantasy questions on twitter use the HASHTAG ask F. F. T. Saturday and Sunday. We'll be answering your questions again. The HASHTAG is ask F F T great way to get your questions. I just do a few on Friday to so I'll try to get this more cool and I think like twenty minutes yesterday to CBS. Sports DOT COM SLASH PARLAY CBSSPORTS DOT COM slash parlay. If you want a chance is to win one million dollars. CBS SPORTS DOT com slash parlay and join. Our fans will contest WANNA win. Like five hundred bucks. Whatever the first place payout is? I'll take less than a million but I'll take it fan dot com slash league slash FT and Heath and. I are on radio Saturday night. Check it out. I on fantasy football ten. PM Am Eastern to midnight on CBS sports radio and Sirius Channel Two six Detroit and Dallas. Here here's the stat of the game. That won't influence her lineup. Decisions in May running back has caught a touchdown against the lions and four of their last five games. So Start Zeke a stat of the game. That might influence your lineup. Decisions Or the lives have been terrible against tight ends. They've allowed a touchdown to a tight end in four straight games butts. Jason Witten hasn't scored in seven straight games. What do you think about Jason Witten or OJ Howard Windsor better spot key is but I I pick a different streamer in both of them. Die Like wind better. Pr Than on PR. But he's still starting both from me. Let's get to this game here. D. A. so Dak Prescott seven of of nine quarterbacks of scored twenty two fantasy points. It's a very very high floor. Only to have had huge game against the lions and that was with Darius slay her uh-huh cousins and Jones does that Prescott have a good game a great game but I think he'd be great. I think this is a match up where the cowboys can get back on track. And I think they might lean a little bit on Zeke one of the reasons why I'm not so hot to trot on Witton because when they get inside the five. I think that's going to be Zeke time. But I also think that you're gonNA see the receivers make big plays Cooper against anybody. It's GonNa be Cooper Verses Darius. Slay I'm not gonNA hesitate to use Amari Cooper in that the matchup and I think Gallup can continue to find some numbers as well and they're catching bass from deck. They have so many different weapons. I mean you know cops stopping if sleighs takes away cooper to whatever extent and lowers his feeling a little bit. I mean DACA Gallup. We'll go to cop go to Witton go to gather backfield Acteal. There's it it it just to get away from right now and I think what will end up being is at his numbers but this could be a throw to score run to win game. You guys have DAX third third and he has some fifth so Dak were hoping for a big game here from him. or Zeke. Yes and Cooper. Oh Yes oh Michael Gallup you also you guys have him ranked pretty high heats a little lower on Gallup thousand twenty first in non. PR TWENTY-THIRD NPR. You guys have him as a top seventeen wide receiver lever almost top twelve and non PR so Jamie explain The love for Michael Gallup. This week I think he scores it. It's kind of what you said you know. sleigh is going to shadow cooper to whatever extent. He does you know I mean. We'll see out someplace so I like him on a fast track. I think it'll be an opportunity for them to find. The end is own targets. Have come down. Israel cops has played better of late but I'm not getting away from an in a game where the secondary that he's facing so bad all right we got. I just ran out of wide receiver. Receiver that I would put my top twenty four well we. We've got to have problems with a I. I guess because I'm not saying this won't happen. Almost happened last week with the bears but we have not had both of a wide receivers score fourteen or more. Pr Fantasy points in the same game against the lions with the healthy Darius slay last last week it was it was very very close. Thirteen point nine. Pr Points for the bears guys but this would be a team to do it in Galveston in really good. All Year and Cooper is one of the best in football and football Jason witten twelve for Jamie tenth for Dave and twenty second for He. No sorry it's well twelve for Jamie Amy ten for Heath Twenty Second Dave so Davis low on Witton he actually has witten sixth NPR. We talked about him so Blake Darwin doesn't score again All right let's go to the Lions so sit Jeff Driscoll. Although he's he can run a little bit but he the he's actually intriguing. DFS because his price is solo. Yeah a little bit and he's GonNa throw a lot of passes so oh there. There is a path with him where you can get some moderate value and then it gives you the chance to load up on other guys on Fan Duel. The cowboys have good defense. Let's just put that out there. So it's it's just that the F. S. play and JD mckissick. All right What do we think about Jd? mckissick he's only fifty five. I percents own. He's got big opportunity. Here thoughts good. NPR top to trust the non-pwi are I mean if he's GonNa get another game with double digits and carries last. Last week was the first time in his career. He had ten carries I think you know five plus catches as well within reach because dress going to get the ball his hands quick and like they've said they're probably GONNA throwing in a lot. If Tai Johnson's out. That will certainly help him touch the ball. Even more tied Johnson plays then. It's back to the three headed rotation of Poop that the US with Paul Perkins mixed in as well But I mean because it should be the best of the bunch and if you're stuck in a he's not he's giving you ten P P R points. Each of the past last two weeks sit outside. Johnson don't come back. Yeah and the cowboys actually give up the fourth most receiving yards per game the running backs. That's a little skewed by the last two. Giving receiving yards or receptions receiving yards per game fourth most. I don't know where they are. Receptions fourth in receptions okay yeah so the you know the last two weeks of really tip that stat because Barclay had six for sixty seven even cook at seven for eighty six before that they weren't that bad but those games happened so kiss got an opportunity. Here it's funny. 'cause mckissick and Brian Hill of almost the same price on fan duel. And you guys just like Ryan Hill op ed or this week right. Well there's a chance for Hilda score you know his carries. We'll certainly dwarf you know even if Johnson's out and the match ups just held up right all right. The Detroit wide receivers Golladay is a must start. Would you start galloper. golladay though the Gallup yeah really okay. Marvin Jones. Or let's go to the Jamison. crowder Terry maclaurin range. Both those guys over Marvin Jones I would take Jones over maclaurin specially in PR. y'All take mclernon. Both the cowboys do allow the second fewest fantasy points the wide receivers but they are worse. The road like we saw with maclaurin in Richardson. Like we saw with Ryan Anderson and crowder so T- jackets starter. Sit I sort sort of the week. Liking Hopkinson like the way he played last week. And just thinking about how driscoll might operate with checking down and with Jeff Heath hurt for the cowboys. Maybe there'd be a chance for him but the more I researched other streaming tight ends the more. I pushed Hopkinson down so I don't like him. Yeah he's just not been good any EH. DST in this game. I would sure cowboys are saints. This week cowboys all right. Let's take a break here and just over to the Audio Studio won't take an actual commercial break for the video crew. Thank you for looking at our faces. You'll hear the rest of it right now and when we come back. We're going to preview our third game out of six Atlanta Carolina in three seconds as soon as our show is over. I'm going to be getting ready for. CBS Sports HQ Fantasy Football Today. You can watch it on H. Q.. And I'm going to be wearing my indochino suit I'll wear today. It will look wonderful. Indochino was founded on the belief that you don't need to spend a fortune on custom wardrobe and fellas. If you don't have a custom suit you just don't know what you're missing. This is great stuff perfectly designed to fit your body. You submit your measurements and it's just GonNa look better. You're going to feel better. You're going to be more confident. This is my favorite suit by far. 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And guess what this is not an Amazon. Chief's charges has now brought it back with this is not it was a fake out. I thought about in this game but Matt Ryan is just not playing well enough and he's her and he doesn't have to do it. Doesn't have hooper. And it just seems like I'm setting up for failure and Kyle Allen makes me scared but chargers chiefs is your official missile bonanza anyway Atlanta Carolina. What do we think about this? Game Matt Ryan Faith in him based on the rankings. You do yeah. He's the top twelve quarterback back. I'm hoping that Brian Hill doesn't take so much work away from him that he can find the end zone and what. I really think it's going to happen is that he's going to have to chase points in the game aim and the offense will ultimately run through him. Offense align played a little bit better last week. Ryan played okay. And I think he could be a top ten quarterback quarterback Ryan Breeze. I currently a breeze out of Ryan. I think I'm going to change it. But Ryan had brees Ryan or Josh Allen. I think I'M GONNA take Josh Allen against the fence. I'll take right okay so I think we've talked a lot about Brian Hill. Would you start Brian Hill. Or Calvin Ridley Hill Hell okay. He's top twenty nine. PR NPR but be a little higher than pr for for Jamie Heath. Not quite as much for Dave but he's a starter and we'd start over Todd Gurley as we mentioned we'd we'd start Brian Hill over awesome. Eker right or not Dave. No I'm sorry which Eker Bryant Hiller Austin actor Oh hill this is. He's set up for twenty one touches in the gaming and start. Yeah I know and the panthers give up the second most points two running backs and five point zero five of yards per carry a. I'll say it again. Set it all. We they've allowed thirteen touchdowns running backs in the last. Five Games is just insane. It's amazing that is amazing but they they are the best against pass catching running backs fewer receiving yards per game to running backs. That's wild but three receiving touchdowns all right so Brian Hill. And you've heard you've heard enough. Start Julio I wanNA believe in Calvin really I hope he gets more targets if he gets six to seven targets. which is the norm? That's usually not good enough against the panthers. There've been six wide receivers with that many targets and only one has had more than over more than forty yards only wanted scored starter. Sit Calvin really try and sit him if you if you kind of chew on his his box scores and see what he's done you see that he's basically eight hundred by Wednesday's biggest probably not no but he also is a touchdown dependent wide receiver. Do you think you can score a touchdown against Carolina with a secondary healthy again. I'm thinking it's going to be tough. He's Affleck's the Best Marvin Jones or Calvin Ridley. I'll take Jones PR. I think he's safer. I think he'll get more volume there too. And so this is where you would go with Ronald Jones. Over Calvin Ridley. Yep Yeah okay how `Bout Kaelin Bellagio Ridley really at like. I have to think about it for a second. I'm going to go with really because there's a thousand percent more upside Okay but I had to pause If you're in a deeper league russell gauges only one percent Owned and he had nine targets and five targets in two games since the shredder. Be a PR league. If you're looking at him yeah sure. Sure one percent own though. If you're desperate luke stocker right luke stocker the panthers down to be like on an island with no food and no Internet desperate. And if you're there you're not listening to us. No food stocker like stock of SOCK. Apu Kyle Allen who would you start kyle over Baker over yeah but Wentz Yeah whence cousins Kyle Brady Right now and I disagree on Cuyler are and I disagree on cousins too. I think it's got to match up. Your McCaffrey Goes Bananas Much. Better Situation Carla. Oh it's definitely a better situation. Kyle upside for him. I guess I'm talking myself into starting over Kirk cousins. That's what you're hearing right now. Thank you okay. I'm starting over Garoppolo. Would you do that yes. Yup I'd start over Darnold as well. Yup Yup again. I think it's just all those guys adopt matchups whether it's Cousins went and Schuyler all those guys these should be better. It more is a top twelve wide receiver. He's in my fans will lineup. He's still less expensive than Curtis Samuel. It's amazing six thousand dollars. Yeah they have not caught up to digital they they have look it's PBR. So he doesn't get the full scoring bonus that he does other places. And he doesn't score touchdown touchdown so I get it but it's it's hard to go under jarreds week in week out. Without finding the enzyme falcons allow the seventh most fantasy points the wide receivers so Curtis Samuel so Curtis Samuel well or Bryant Hill Brian I feel like he'll has is more upset. Same got a touchdown. Three of his last four games still only two games more than sixty four yards and both of them were against the box. This is not a bad matchup. And we're open for a lot of points so he's not a bad flex he's scoring touchdowns in the red zone as well. Yeah so it's funny because you look at same only only think already is a big play. Receiver any does get a couple of deep throws a game. But it's it's been the red zone it's been the area that you think. TJ More is GonNa come through where Samuel is is coming through. Moore's touchdown was like a fifty two yard bomb or catching watching run right but it was a long catch and run like throw as long and the running was long as well off from Kyle Allen. Let's the only score I believe. Mala Samuel or JD mckissick Samuel Starter Sit Greg Olsen started yep okay Olson or Brost Weli Olsen Olsen puzzles and that is that is that Game Beautiful Arizona San Francisco speaking of what a Nice match. He has a quick stat of the game arrests the season stat. The cardinals wide receivers do not face a team that ranks lower than seventeenth in fantasy points allowed a wide receivers rest of season so Christian Kirk. Maybe try to sell them here. Kyle lowry you you. You Miss that window well the game. He's still I'd I I can't imagine people are going to look at his projections in this ranking and say I gotTa have that guy even even scored three touchdowns. He's the target leader for Arizona. The past couple of weeks so I these. He's been very good even before that he hasn't been great. But I think you you know you have to sell those type of guys right after happens the day after it happens. Yeah okay okay. So anyway starters at Kristiangaric I I still like him NPR. Maybe I'm a sucker. I still think he gets targets. I think the cardinals have a good game offensively. Why why are you into cuyler? I'm into cuyler. Because the forty niners defense played seventy four snaps into overtime on Monday and now. They've got a turnaround around and play again on Sunday. The offense is going to be without Emmanuel Sanders. George kittle. We've seen Garoppolo get turnover. Happy that could set up the cardinals with some short fields and and I also think that the the defense might be keyed in on stopping Kenyan drake. Because two weeks ago drake ran all over them. And so the coaches might say. Hey we better stop that guy and I I like the way Kylo Murray's playing so it's a four prong argument that has absolutely nothing to do with statistical data. I don't have the data to say well in the last four weeks weeks. The forty niners have allowed this and that they're good defense but I think cuyler Murray has has earned himself an opportunity to still put up somewhere between twenty and twenty four fantasy points that I think I think obese on where seventeen to nineteen Because I don't think he has a very high ceiling in this match up just because they haven't given up a lot of big the game supposed quarterbacks and I think they're going to be so pissed off after losing that game to Seattle in their own building that they're gonNA smash that kid. Do you like any running backs. In this game. Yeah I like Coleman I kinda liked Drake Jacob Moser should be okay yeah and most sorts of flex all right. I'm GONNA put Kevin. Kevin Coleman up against Brian Hill. I go rhino. I might have coleman a spot ahead. How about seven coal Melwood? Don't I'm going to go L.. Kevin Coleman or Philip Lindsay Calling I'll go home into our. We said this is a proven week. For Tevin Coleman all right. We're going to start artem in most cases if he doesn't do well here than we've got a problem and he didn't do one thing to keep an eye. Obviously I'm sure most people hearing this after they practiced but he did miss practice on Thursday for personal so reasons if that becomes an issue then obviously ringing moster becomes a must play with Brita likely out but just keep an eye on that performance purposes. Yeah get if you get most. He's he's only twenty two percent own a lot of people like him better than catch up L. A.. Well Jimmy Garoppolo. Where are we at here with Christian Christian Kurkin Larry Fitzgerald talked about the running backs all right. I think we've pretty much covered that fitzgerald starter. Sit Sit sit if you can. Would you start Cristian Kirk. Kevin Coleman Coleman Coleman even. NPR Garoppolo is what this week a quarterback. You shouldn't feel good about starting the better quarterback in this game who the cardinals do allow the boast fantasy points to quarterbacks And including a huge game to Garoppolo but he threw a lot in that game though. We'll see he had annual Sanderson. I did and he had title in that game. We're skin was awesome in that game. So what do you think about San Francisco wide receivers. I do like Deebo and I actually love him. In faneuil handles well as prices not adjusted to what is going on the probably the two most more popular guys ownership wise for the lower end players are going to be depot. Oh and Brian Hill. Because they're so cheap role newsy great. Good upset yeah. There's good upside and deebo Samuel Okay. What about in you know regular redraft draft leagues not? DFS deebo is a very good flex is he's. He's the one remaining forty niners receiver who doesn't make multiple mistakes six again. He is he better than Christian Kirk. Yes I don't I don't think so but I think it is close cool and and then what like how desperate to start Ross dwelling. I mean he had seven targets last week and now he's facing the team that's thinks against tight end so it's a easy scenario. Start if you're stuck with the position I agree I think he's a good streaming tight end. I I did notice that. All of his routes or short routes he's a touchdown her bus guy but it's Arizona and you you decide. Tampa Bay found a way to make. OJ Howard amazing against them. And Kyle Shanahan Pretty Smart. So there's definitely room for dweller to be good okay. Colt Standard Weli Colson. Colts Wydner Weli. When wally wanted to really on that too long? San Francisco's Ds is is as for Jamie Fourteenth Day and V for he had dave diseases game going differently than than Jamie does. Chicago's at the rams. Who are the good starts in in this game? Well Cooper Cup is GONNA be and everybody's lineup even after last week's doughnut it's three out of four games where he said less than fifty yards I think and two hundred and twenty five and the other one. Yeah there's probably something going on. We're defenses are wising up to how to defend around him that the bengals just did not do and the bears could potentially do it. So there's some concern but you're still gonNA start a based on that volume and again Goff's going to get the ball out quick then that guys going to get a lot of targets who else rubber woods will target to. He'll be a volume based receiver. NPR and then on the bear side said what about girls. Good I'm good. We're good here girly like do we think he's GonNa score usually scores. He didn't last week. I mean unions score. That's the the thing with him right now. Okay so if Cup Cup appears to be the only like start here. These woods qualifies to especially deal and ever. Oh yeah forgot ever. It's very weird because I mean all three these guys at the chance to play well but I think Goss- think right and it's the funny thing Would you start Deebo Samuel Robert Woods what's I would start. What's he does not have one target inside the ten yard line this year by the way? His three red zone targets Josh Reynolds as a Flyer and he interested the bears by the way very good against wide receivers. Okay no interest in in Reynolds I so then the talk about the David Montgomery Cohen. The Rams I think the the eighth fewest receiving yards two running backs they give three point six yards. It's per carry two running backs. This is a bad match up here. And Cohen caught a touchdown last week with a great matchup align suck against pass catching running backs rams not so much much. Sell any faith in the in the bears running backs It comes down to whether or not Montgomery says. Yeah I mean I think Montgomery summary is in both formats And I would like Cohen better clearly if Montgomery's out but if he's in he's a borderline flex. NPR girl he's the best running back in this game right. Yeah I think yeah not not by much. Would you start Todd Gurley or would you take a shot on someone like Philip door set. Who has a good matchup with the eagles? I'd go girly. Yeah I just I have the suspicion shen that he's going to be involved in the passing game lean toward guaranteed touches when he can. I think it is amazing day. I hope you're right Dave. I think it is amazing. How bad todd Gurley has been the passing game this year? I don't have stats in front of me. But it the his yards per catch is even guess what they are. I'm guessing it's like three point. One Jamie Dupree guess Thai yards per catch on the snap which is foreign after all right so you say four and a half three point one report one. The correct answer owns five point. Four really five point four. He's caught not good twenty eight targets. That's gross sats eight yards that's grosser-than-gross eighty one his eighty. What are you freaky kidding? Me That is so bad. Okay is Moving out here Jared Goff said although he likes me. That hasn't fourteenth Keith about that we we'll get to it Gerald Everett you are starting his top twelve. He's topped seven for Dave and Jamie and the rams both Ds's should be good here but the rams are even better their number one for Dave and Jimmy number three for heath I mean they are playing against Mitchell. Trubisky they are the jets and the Redskins here and the question in is because heath gave that great note about the redskins killing the clock. Taken the air out of the football under Bill Callahan. Or they have faced Miami San Francisco Minnesota in Buffalo that San Francisco game was that crazy rain game and those are respectable the events although in terms of against the run. They're really not except for Minnesota and the jets are much better than them against the run. Can the bear can the redskins run the ball. Well enough to ruin the fantasy values of the some of the jets. I guess or it doesn't even matter I think I mean I think you kind of know. Accra's this point well but as far ars the redskins run game. I think that's what you're asking. I starting with the jets. Basically can the redskins keep the jets off the field and is that going to mean a bad game for crowder love John Bell to you probably started. I mean that's the only way the redskins are going to be able to win this game and I think that's why they've been running the ball so much in their past couple of games anyway they just want to try and control the clock and keep it low scoring so they have a chance to win in the fourth quarter. That's not going to change. And unless unless Dwayne Haskins had accuse awakening over the last week and change. He's GonNa be a mess but do you think they'll be successful. I mean do you think they'll be do you. You said don't start art the redskins running back okay. So we know that so for peace flexible. I'm asking a well yeah. NFL running should be. I'm asking really a question. That's long winded. So I'll just get to. It starts at Sam Darnold Dumbbell Jamison crowder go ahead. You're GonNa Start Bell. I think you should start. crowder you could streamed Arnold Arnold but I wouldn't have a lot of faith in him. It's hoping that has had some success here because it's it's a perfect setup. Their home the jets secondary is not good their pass rushes in great and so you know he said ten days to prepare for this game. Yeah but if you stink you stink but I mean it's I'm sure he does think but I'd like to hopefully see some signs of Oh growth. You're not this isn't for fantasy. Obviously but I still think there's a chance for him to have some successor. I'd like to see him. Complete one. Pass longer than fifteen yards doing in the air. Do you like a tight end. As a sleeper as they're asleep or tight end your Grin Griffin Griffin could be now that earnings out we've seen Griffin get involved before sure. Yep sure did Should've had three touchdowns in two games before her and came back. But that was the jets game With the overturn. And then the redskins. I mean the jets defense has been pathetic. Twenty nine twenty nine and thirty eight fantasy points to minhsiu Fitzpatrick and Daniel Jones in their last three games. All three quarterbacks passer rating of one hundred eighteen or better. It's just unbelievable. So yes maybe hassle to win a million dollars on fan. I don't think we can recommend him. I in regular leagues and Then it's maclaurin McClure under Samuel. Who Do you like better? Jalen San or Curtis Samuel term maclaurin born. I'll take Curtis Samuel Jalen Hill overturn maclaurin Curtis Terry The oh I forgot about Deebo Samuel. A lot of Samuel and Samuel's going going on here all right. I asked you this earlier. I don't remember the answer. maclaurin or crowder crowder CROWDER NPR jets D. S. T. over the saints You could could. It's funny 'cause we actually sportsline has the REDSKINS DSP better. That's interesting Beth. Good talent they just. I don't know I'll take the saints jets. TST Or the Jaguars. I would go Jaguars I'd go Jaguars but it's not as appealing. I really have. The Jaguars is my number. Two defense to start the week before I get that out of here. Thanks everybody appreciate it fun. Though we forget that game who claim. Oh Yeah. That's all right. That's Jamie and Dave. I'm Adam taught the on the mail L.. Bag in the recap and other radio show big weekend coming up

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#39: Eurovision is a Whole Mood Week of February 18, 2019

The EuroWhat? A Eurovision Podcast

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#39: Eurovision is a Whole Mood Week of February 18, 2019

"Hello. And welcome to the euro what episode number thirty nine for the week of February eighteenth twenty nineteen. I'm Ben Smith non joined by Mike McComb. Hey, mike. Hello. We are a bunch of Americans trying to make sense of the Eurovision song contest. And this week we will be recovering from this weekend's selection palooza. Oh, boy, there were so many things there were eleven things on Saturday so much stuff. How are you holding up? I'm good as our resident person who watched all the things on Saturday. I have recovered, thankfully. It was a holiday weekend three days recovery is yes recovery. It was great. My local booksellers does like a big warehouse sale that helped. Yeah. How is your Sunday watching the one year of Asian thing? Yeah. Yeah. A nice fair division of labor, although we will get into the level. I think drama was we got nice split. So. Yeah. Just because Romania Sunday thing had probably as much drama as all eleven things on Saturday. Yeah. But we will get into that. We'll get there eventually. But I some exciting news Australia is now all set to be in the next five years of your vision up until twenty twenty three. Yeah, that's very exciting. And honestly, they've been putting in the work they deserve it. So the way it's been working the last few years is Australia has to be invited into your vision. Like as if they were vampires vampire yet to invite them into your home. But yeah, now, they don't have to worry about the host broadcaster extending an invitation. They are going to be welcomed for the next five years. So just one more step in welcoming Australia to the Eurovision family. I guess unless they win. And then like who knows what's going to happen there? Yeah. That's the type of problem. You want to have that. Does it for the news desk this week, which is which is nice change? Yeah. Getting caught up with what has happened in the past week Israel had their finale of rising star last Tuesday, and the winner of that was Koby Murimi. He has a nice voice. It's fine. I watched a couple of videos that we linked to in the notes, and it's it's fine. He seems to pick songs feel a little self series. Like let it be. And he did choose void go. But I would have chosen that song. No. I think that's my issue is that he is making a lot of choices that are kind of like the. A couple of songs that he did Halloween and jar of hearts and just all of these songs that the third or fourth place American idol contestants would choose like the giant ballads. And yes, his voice can handle it. But it it just kind of throws into question. What not not taste? But what what is the market for that? You know, you have an album of of those sort of songs like you need to have light and shade. And like I said he has a really good voice. And I think if he's matched with the right song and gets a little bit of stage coaching some of the videos like he doesn't know what to do with his hands, which is fine. Lots of don't know what to do with their hands overseeing song we've been there. Right. So I think he's working with the right people. This could be a really good match for Israel. So and we'll find out what Israel song is marched. Tenths? I think it's the day before the submission deadline. So no take backs. Yeah. They're gonna they're gonna figure out the right song for for this guy that they've got him has their artists. Yes. Please not go that please. Don't take way go. He is he's not a foia. Go kind of guy. And that's that's fine. Everybody is see. Elsewhere felt like we just had like on Friday just like a ton of time. We had we had to a lot of artists announcements out of nowhere like on the eve of what was going to be a very busy weekend. Right. The to the emerged. We had Poland announced that Tuleya is going to be there artists, which they are some rising stars in the polish music industry. They had on last year's polish version of the Grammy's they had one of the most like to the most regard. Well, regarded performances of the night with a couple of groups other debut album, went platinum in Poland. And their whole thing is that they do a traditional style of singing known as white voice, which is not just a bunch of vocal fry as my idiot brain kind of Sumed, but also combining that with modern production and a couple of the tracks. I found for them were covers of Depeche mode. Enjoy the silence Mott. Metallica's nothing else matters. But again, like, it's it's very much like a head voice a little bit kind of nasal. But like multiple those voices combined both in unison, and in harmony. So I'm interested to see what the what that looks like, particularly the the modern production side of things that can go in like a couple of different ways. That can I'm really hoping that means that there's going to be a dub step drop. I mean, it is your vision unit is your vision. Is you kind of want to hear what white voice sounds like with the dub step drop? Yeah. Well, that was going to be my question. Like is it an Capella style, or is there instrumentation that goes along with it? Or is that not a defining characteristic of white voice think that there isn't frontier with it? At least again listening to a couple other things those all seem to have some level of backing behind them. And then it was just announced today that the song they are likely to be performing is called poly shea, and that's either going to be entirely in polish or a combo polish and English. I think just because this is this is very traditional to Poland. Right. Just look. The group and comparing it to other your vision things as we so often to do it feels like the much more serious cousin of a few years ago clay Donut on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like that. Like that was like the fun college Halloween party version of traditional polish culture. And this is like the mal UN version of that. Okay. So probably no butter churns. Probably no butter Turner's, nobody doing laundry, no heating bosoms. Good to know. And then the other major announcement was grease grease named Katerina Duska as their artists the PR blurb that accompanied the announcement on the air vision website, compared her voice to leaky Lee, Jessie, ware and any wine house, which as our resident indie music correspondent, those are very different reference points. Yeah. Those are that's like a three people who've never been in my kitchen sort of sort meant. Yeah. Like, I don't think I put those three in the platelets together. I think having listened to her some of her music on YouTube. I think Amy wine house is a very apt comparison. There's a really nice raspy nece to her voice sort of a focus on Seoul. Greece has promised that her song, which is titled better love, and which we will know more about on March. Seventh is not like any other song the Greece's sent to the Eurovision song contest recent years in that it might qualify or. Oh, man. If it is unlike what they've sent recently that that seems fair. Yeah. So I watch this space for for more details because again, we will know more on March seventh that does for just only artist drops those those last two really squeaked in the song announcements as well. Like those literally like an hour before we taped today. Right. Just like checking like oh, man. I should I should throw these in there. But lea- adhering to our schedule this. It's a nice we're finally making an impact in this industry. Yes. Elsewhere again, it was a crazy weekend with five selections. So many selections the first one just alphabet Oakley being Croatia. So creator picked Roco Blodget each with the dream, the kids got a great voice. He's got a great voice. But this is this is a lot of song. Yeah. Def definitely Eurovision entry. Yes. Yes. And like once I found out that this was co written by jock Hudek who represented them in twenty seventeen. This a lot more sense to me. I was like, oh, okay. That's why this is going super super wide screen all of a sudden it's a bit over wrought. I guess. Not in a renting of garments sort of way. Like, I think I think this could work the staging was a little basic I thought especially when they were doing the overhead shots, and like the clouds, and you couldn't really see Roco in the overhead shot. So I think he'll need to make some choices on how they're going to present this onstage one thing that just watching the video made me think of this is entirely just the mixture of the staging and the costuming my brain immediately went to Greece's beauty school dropout. Yeah. Like this felt very high school production of grease just like the white leather Laker jacket with the large wings as though he's appearing as the musical guest on the Victoria's Secret fashion show. Yeah. Polar opposite of what the song is about. Yeah. Yes. It's a very chafe song. But yeah, it's Eurasian. But not but. Yeah, it's not. Yeah. It works. I kinda wanted to be a little bit less serious a little bit more more fun. But I have known what that means. If that music like a better beat behind it or what? But yeah. Or maybe using some background LED's. I've just thinking of shock who'd x performance in twenty seventeen. It's like, yeah. You're kinda capture that sort of stage presence. I think this one will be a shocker so. Well, I mean, I completely underestimated jock Hudek. But he did I think we all did. I think we all that the song was kind of a joke and completely underestimate like how joyful that performance would be. So this feels this feels a little bit more serious than that one. But again, like, I think depending on staging this could be surprise. So the next one on the list is a Stony ah they had their escape Lau final on Saturday which featured twelve performers and the winner of that was Victor krone with storm. So this one is co written by stieg Rostov who was half of the duo that represented Estonia in twenty fifteen these been part of Estonia's your vision family, I guess years like he I believe he wrote 2016 century he thinks. Yeah. He competed last year in St. Lal, and Victor krone is Swedish I believe, and this feels very Swedish in its this. This song felt very Swedish to me where you able to watch the performance. Like, I I watched the so Estela at least the final was in two parts sort of like the everybody perform stage and the results in super final stage. I want the everybody perform stage, it was a lot of fun. I was very impressed by the full range of a performance that they had. I really liked the what if she place. Second Yukos V stays pretty little liar. They're like, they're like a handful things I thought were were very interesting very different all of them and favor really spoiled for choice this year like of the full field of twenty four songs. There are a number that did not make it out of the semifinals or why didn't that one make it that was so good. And I thought they went with some kind of safe choices for finalists. But I think I'm okay. With storm as an entry. It's I think there's some work that can be done with it. But it's is still kind of on a recovery trip. I think 'cause they they had a rough couple of years there. I think this one's going to get them back on track. I really liked this one. I kinda liked pretty little Ireland, but more, but the more I listen to this one the more I like it, and it could just be that I tend to really like the Scandinavian entries, and this is basically Scandinavian entry. This is the second year in a row that I've really fallen for a song title storm, which concerns me. And also, I like the one quibble I have is that I you can't just grime this with this in the chorus. Of the various countries that have been announced so far. This is one of my early favorites. I think we'll see how that. Yeah. I need to see like how this sits with me over time. But I can see this going the distance and placing well, it's still fairly early. Like, we only have thirteen of the forty two songs that are going to be competing. And I think once our playlists shift from the national finals to the core forty two. Yeah. Like, then we'll see how things shake out. But I wanna see what they can do at the performance other than cutting to what's clearly like a video bit of the I watch that was really impressive to me as I keep watching it. I see how the trick is done. I the cut I thought it was a very effective staging of the song to I like this one the other Baltic selection that happened was in Latvia. They've wrapped up their supernova process and winner of that was carousel with that night. Oh. I become such a Latvia stand since they've switched to the supernova format. And yes. Is like I don't know what it is. It seems like Latvia's just kind of like the coffee shop of Europe, particularly with the last few entries that because you know, how much I loved last year's entry. Yes. And this one just feels kind of like a continuation of that. And what really gets me about carousel winning supernova was that the other entries in the field were pretty bombastic or like, very like Sint heavy pop aggressive, and this one was so quiet, and it totally resonated with the audience because the way the supernova format works is they have like four different ways of public voting. You can they measure Spotify? Streams they measured televised. Ing web voting apathy coding. And then they come up with a composite score of that. And this came in second in the composite score one the telephone and the web vote so. It's definitely resonating with the Latvian audience. It won the jury, and it just kind of surprised me because it was pretty stacked field, and I don't even think this was really in the conversation of the favorites. Like, there was Marcus Riva who has been part of supernova every single year and one of these days he's going to represent Latvia. Whether Latvia wants it or not Marcus revolt will be at your vision at some point, it just seems like averages at this point. But yeah, just the fact that this song managed shoes rise to the top. Despite all the indicators that it just would get lost in the shuffle is pretty impressive. What do you think of this track you mentioning that? Like this really feels like a continuation for you of last year's entry funny girl. Like that might explain for me. Like why this isn't doing anything for me because that one like just from the beginning. I was not on board with that one. I think I mean, the supernova format has been working well for for Latvia. But I wonder like I've well it hasn't been, but I was also just about to bring up it's been seeing kind of diminishing returns because like you had love injected came out very strong the next year. I'm not a Roach heartbeat for just that. When also very well line did not qualify. Get finished absolute last place. That was a surprise. I really liked that one that one was so good. Yeah. Yeah. The stage presence of it was just like such beautiful staging. It was one of my favorite photos from that year. But yeah. Anyways dot connec. But since then they've been having some trouble. And I'm not sure that a continuation of what didn't work last year is gonna suddenly work this year. This is another one where it's very early in the process, and I think once I get this one of humour, spins we'll see where it shakes out with me. But just my early impression is that. It didn't leave much of an impression with me, which is not good on the other hand the quieter vibe. Like there's been just kind of like a whole mood this year. Like, we've been kind of discussing as we prep the show is like. Like, there's just like a whole mood, admittedly. The quiet thing that the is doing wasn't working for me. But like over in Slovenia, it feels like they're also kind of doing their own take on that. And it did work for me a lot like, this is zella cry and Gosper Santeals SEB e. I I just wanna take a moment to to mention that like one of my favorite parts of watching this. Levine videos is the the Slovenian cousin of cleaners the robot who is the FOX ball dancing robot, showing up in the interstitial that delighted me a lot. Yeah. But like this song like also had like a whiteness and kind of like a weird intimacy to it that reminded me of the ex- ex-. This this brisk. I like release three albums at this point. But this had kind of the same feeling it kind of had some of the same thing that Portugal's entry last year head going on to me that didn't turn out that great for Portugal last year. But that's fine. This was really pleasant to me. This was it was smooth. But still had textured keys. Keep using really weird opposite words describing the song, but smooth, but also texture. What'd you think? Mike. I ended up just having to watch this back later on Saturday. And it was weird watching the video. And I think part of it was like the sound quality of the video wasn't great. And it sounded like the audience the studio audience was really into the song. And they were connecting to what was happening on stage. And I'm watching like, all right? I'm missing something. Here. I need to listen to the studio track just to kind of see what what everybody's latching onto listen to that on Spotify. And then the aren't peaks and valleys to the song. There's not like a an obvious verse rice setup to it. But it is kind of continuing in that whole Eurovision is a mood type thing where I could totally imagine this song on a like art any to be heads down working on something playlist and just having it in the background. It's not distracting, but it's helping me. Get work done. So it's like, I'm just working on a subconscious level. My husband did say like after watching the stage before that is one intense junior prom. Yeah. They do need like a yard stick in there for the Holy Ghost Rahm. Exactly. It has like this kind of weird yet, quiet power. Like, you said there's not like a standard verse chorusing of just does its thing for three minutes. There is something there. And I just haven't put my finger on what it is yet. But we've got a couple of months to figure that out. And that's where I've landed on that. So oh, goodness. So that was all just Saturday. Yes. Sunday, just had the one final that was in Romania and the winner. There was a strip Yanni with on a Sunday. And all my goodness. There was a lot going on in Romania. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I read the follow. It was just kind of agape. Yeah. So there were twelve ax total from the two semi-finals Romania was really spoiled for choice. There were I wanna say five entries that were contenders to win. Esther puny was one of them. The two favorites were Bella, Santiago and Lorber tan. My personal favorite was Dana, which was like this sort of Bulkin infused track where there was a guy playing a saxophone keytar combination thing was just fascinating to look at just just hearing that description signed me up, please. Exactly. Yeah. And it's just like really kind of a party track. Yeah. I won't get into that one because it did not win. But so the voting's happening, and there they had pretty lengthy telephoning window, then they go to the jury, and they have international jury of six people. There was like I think it was the head of the. Is really delegation who spent a few of these national finals, I know she provided votes Francis selection. And yes, she just pops up every now, and then and only forest who one Eurovision in twenty thirteen for Denmark was one of the judges and the two editors and chief over at we blogs were on the jury. They were not on the jury as a pair. They were both individual jurors Jerry gives out there points, then it goes to the telephone and the telephone only has one set of points that they're giving out so pretty much like the telephone was a seventh juror, which means the public only had one seventh of the vote while one blogging contingent had almost thirty percent of the vote. That is like if the two of us each had votes credibility in Romania. Not I don't know. I would be fine. If like they had had one combined vote, but like to have more of a say in Romania's entry than the Romanian people. Right. This was. A very weird way to do the vote. Like, yeah, why even bother having a public telephone? Yeah. If they have so little say, yeah. Usually it's like a fifty fifty vote where fifty is like the whatever combination of juries you have and the other fifty percent of the people not eighty six percent fourteen percent. So that was just really kinda. Yeah. And I think also it was just the fact that I don't think anybody really had any in the office pool of who's going to win like her. I think this is fine. I think it's going to be a song going to kind of grow on people definitely has like a Romanian edge to it, which is one of the things that I really look for because that was my issue with BellSouth Iago song where it's just like. Yeah. I think any country could send this like there was nothing distinctly Romanian about it or like really part of Romania persona at Eurovision. I think on a Sunday does have that persona and will have the potential of providing a really good performance, particularly because last year was the first time 'Romania miss the final. So like, they denounced back, it was just very fishy circumstances how this all kind of shook out. What do you think of the track? It's growing on me as well. It has sense of drama to it that you and I. Think that just watching it how the staging change between these semifinal in the final definitely they're they're working on that. And they're definitely thinking about how to stage us in a creative way. I need a little more time with this one. But I I like it like my first impression is I like it. Yeah. Yeah. And this is another one that doesn't have like the traditional verse chorus set up has a little bit more of that. It's not like on a Sunday is the hook of the song. It's the first line. And then it goes from there. So I don't think Romania made a bad choice. It's just there are a lot of people who are very cranky about how that choice was made. I think that those people have a point hopefully Romania will take these notes for next year and maybe reconsider a couple of things or a couple of American. If you want to build out the blogging component of your jury. We are available at very reasonable prices. Yes. ESE at what else is on dot TV. So. That was it for all of the multitude of actual selections. But on top of that, we also had the usual crazy spate of semifinals talk about we have a couple this week that are ongoing so isolated our favorite. We now have a full slate of who's going to be in the final this week. They selected tar Moby and Friedrich Omar as the to go through from heat two. And then the jury had the right to select a wildcard front from the entire group of artists, and they did exercise that and also invited Christina scuba Berenson from heat one to join the four acts in the final. So it's going to be an interesting final. I think we have a veteran performers like hair Bjork. And I think Friedrich Omar was part of a group that also went to your vision. You have Tara Moby who has sort of a very kind of poppy entry very kind of standard by think of as Eurovision which it was a very catchy song. And I'm interested to see. Like, how reform that in the finals for Iceland? They have to choose if they're going to perform in Icelandic or English, and yeah, they're locked in the. Yeah. The the Heat's are they perform an Icelandic, and then the final choose which way they want to go, which I like, I like the it puts a focus on on their language, frankly, a lot of times, I like the Icelandic version a little bit better because it has that texture of of the language. Just listening to what is a century old Norse is super cool to me anyways, the final for that is in two weeks. It is not this weekend, which was very disappointing to me the other semifinal processes still kind of ongoing is Sweden felt like a weirdly off week for for Mel fest, or at least for my mouth s radar. I've been usually pretty good about nailing, which of the seven acts is going to be going onto the future. Parts of the competition. I was just like all over the place this week like the two that I thought were going to make it to the final one of them went to Johnson that the other one. Placed seventh. So the two that I thought were going to be Andre Johnson. One went through the final one was Andre Johnson. So I got I was one for four this week. And then of the remaining three I was correct onto them in the one that I thought was gonna play seventh-place first. So they get. Yeah. What was the most confusing for me was I was like one of the acts was this group. Dolly style performing Habibie, which is kind of tropical pop prefab group track. Like, the group is kind of pulling on K pop slash of Japanese Kawai influences at least visually, but everybody is Swedish. And I was just like like in a way that maybe have to double check. If there was like, a toy line being promoted. There's every everything is just kind of like all the like three very distinct pastel colors if this group had existed like the late eighties like they would have been like alongside like rainbow. Bright in terms of having a Saturday morning cartoon and in the line of lunchbox. Yeah. And this isn't the first time they've been at mill fast. But it just like weird to have them be part of the process the year after toy. Yeah. Because it's like it's like really leading into that aesthetic, which was problematic at the time. So yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't back and was like watching the other their other two appearances. Because again, I go down the rabbit hole on these things and the first their first song for us to be introducing them as a band in concept and toiling I don't know that when did not make it through the second one felt kind of like a bewitched you remember bewitched from the late nineties felt like sort of like a like a like a b side from them. I'm still not sure I get it. And I looked at the membership shirt over the years. You know, how how? Dan's on Wikipedia, we'll have like the membership charts show in when Lindsey Buckingham wasn't talking to the rest of Fleetwood MAC, it was like that. And like what's interesting is that no individual member of Dali style has performed at melody festival in more than twice anyways. They're basically manuka. It's great Hossam. Also coming up this weekend. Germany will have their national selection, sir, lead for Israel. That'll be happening on Friday on Friday, not on Saturday. Hey, thank you. German. Let's see Finland the third song by two rude. And Sebastian Draymond will drop. UM K happens on March second Denmark's Dansk. Melody grand prix will be happening on Saturday. Hungary's adul- final will be happening on Saturday. And there is so much drama with Hungary like just of the blue. I've been following Hungary's process. It's been fine. It's usually processed. It doesn't generate a lot of drama 'cause they're very thorough, but very subdued even the hard rock entries. Like, okay. Yes. This is just Hungary and Hardrock, and there's usually aren't like huge problems. That lead makes me think that there are suddenly huge problems. There are huge problems. So one of the entries was under investigation for plagiarism. Patricia entry helped me out of here was determined to be eligible because it was found to be too similar to vampire week. Ends white sky, particularly the kind of yuppie bits. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking resident vampire, we could expert. I like, you said vampire, we will you tight far weekend in our notes for the show, and my I was like what? Of all the bands to rip out that one. Anyways, I checked out both the Hungarian song and religion to weekends white sky. And yeah, there are a lot of similarities there. Yeah. And they both sound like they were tracks from pulse islands Graceland album. So that's that's how vampire weekend works. That's what they do. Okay. So Patrice Cas been removed from she qualified for the final and has been replaced by Geico Ola, there's a little bit more to it than that. So Pachuca was in the third heat, which was the same heat that Leander kills competed in and Leander kills is another one of those acts that is in the national finals every single year. And it was a big deal when they didn't qualify. They finished the way it works in. The qualifying heats is you've got ten entries competing five of them will advance to the final based on points, and then a sixth wild. Card will be determined by public vote. Once all the points were determined Leandra kills finished in six place. So didn't make the first cut people were expecting them to advance on the wildcard they did not the group US n que ended up getting the wildcard. So the enter kills was out in heat three had Petrova not been in the field or disqualified after that Leandra kills would have been I presume bumped up into qualifying. So there's that now Patricia was disqualified the semi-final stage, and he performed in the first semi-final gear, go Ola was in the second semi-final. So the way that the qualifying works is they're just basing it on the points and gear go LA of the all of the people in the semi-finals had the highest score to not advance. So at the same time, it's like, well, shouldn't it be the per? Person in the semi-final who would Vance's rather than the whoever's the overall high score. So it's just there's just no clean way to get out of the situation. This is going to kind of make things a little yucky for the final I think, but okay have fun with that hungry. Sorry. So Hungary, got surprisingly interesting in the. That's a whole lot of things because they they have like a couple of other people in the finals that that have been there before like Jesse Popeye from years ago in twenty seventeen on Rosh Kelly Sounders from two thousand fourteen so a lot of people in the field. But but no longer Patricia. Right. Yeah. And it probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Jesse Papy is a believe considered to be the favorite at this point. It's just kind of weird way to go into the final for what has been a relatively quiet season. Okay. Just time for my favorite part of the program. How many people are Lithuania? There are eight songs and seven acts, and we are finally getting an entry this Saturday. Yes, we're finally in the single digits. Everything is wonderful. Everything is great two of the songs are by Maria despite asking for people to not vote for her entry in the second semi final. Criminal did finish in fourth. Place after the jury and Tele scores were combined. So she will be pulling double duty at the final and will probably be the Representative. She won the first semi-final and despite asking people not to vote. She still qualified has a twenty five percent chance of of taking it only thing that could happen if she ends up. Splitting the vote with herself. We'll see how that goes. In terms of the breakdown from the beginning of the marathon to now, they're five songs that qualified from the third heat to songs from the fourth heat one song from heat to and none of the songs from the very first heat wave back when so. Yeah. Freed into that. What you will? Maybe maybe you don't need for heats. Yeah. Or maybe not fifty two songs over the course of however, many weeks or eight. Yeah. Maybe just one additional shortlist on top of what you're already doing before you start airing these or just have like song spiritus have eight of them. It's a nice number assuming the stars align. One song will be chosen on Saturday. So there's some sort of voting air both of Monica Maria songs have one. Yes. Yeah. Elsewhere in what's happening this week in which is less intense than last weekend. We also have Ukraine's final vid beer finale. How is vid? Be looking. You crane spoiled for choice. I'm so glad that there are so many countries that are spoiled for choice these last couple of weeks, but six acts will be competing in the final. I do have to warn you. It's going to be very long broadcast because it's pretty much averaging one song per half hour, the judges will nit pick to the maximum. I remember when Tamala was in the final back in two thousand sixteen like they were critiquing everything from like the arched direction to what she was wearing to specific notes in the music of nineteen forty four. So like they will get into the nitty gritty, and like a lot of that is just like, no, this is the feedback. You need to hear in preparation for Eurovision. And even though it's only six songs it's going to be at least three hour show. And that is not an exaggeration. So Pakistan witch, so pack a lunch. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there is a dud in the field. Okay. Yeah. Ukraine's going to Ukraine, and I'm here for it. So but that seems to be a process that works for them Portugal. Is continuing the festival they come sow this coming weekend as well. Four entries advanced from semifinal one last weekend. A number that I'm assuming we'll also before will be advancing from semi final to all of those entries. We have a lovely place for on Spotify. Check that out and to get all of what's coming this weekend in handy calendar form with links. We also have that on the website. It's pretty great. Yes. I think that does it. I think we've talked about all the things do I wanna do a quick check of your vision dot TV, I don't know. Well, actually, but we should do is. We should say like win our tickets going on sale just to kind of throw that out into the universe. So that baby. Like, they'll be an announcement Tuesday morning about tickets on sale. Thinking about the people, and I like that. Yeah. I we are here to help you. We're here to help you make canoes happen. 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#78: Remedial Dance Party Week of February 24, 2020

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#78: Remedial Dance Party Week of February 24, 2020

"Blown welcome to the euro at the number seventy eight for the week of February twenty. Four twenty twenty. I'm Ben Smith and then joined today by Mike mccomb. Hey Mike Hello. We are a pair of Americans trying to make sense of the Irvine Song contest and this week were hanging out in the eye of the national selection storm make. It's quiet. It's too quiet. There are seventeen artists left to be named and twenty-seven songs yet to be released yet. My feelings are mixed at this point like it's nice to have a weekend. It's like oh I only have to watch like three or four things instead of next week and the week after where it's just all of the stuff to wall to. Everyone is doing a terrible job on getting their essay but what your vision means to them into the Ese But it's okay just kind of luxuriating in the space of like. We only have a few things to talk about this week. The preview of next week is probably going to be longer. Thing is actually watched the last weekend. Yeah says a buckle up folks has to be a fun one I guess if you consider like actual broadcasts length it might even out because we have Ukraine and Portugal which were both very unnecessarily long broadcast spun. We'll get into those. Let's start with that. How is Ukraine? Mike O? Ukraine's crane now. Actually this was a very drama free Ukraine final. I feel like their their main goal. The theories like please just not last year yes. Yeah of avoiding the drama but also being very like they had a mandate to have this be the most Ukrainian entry to send to Eurovision and I think they succeeded the show opened with a tribute to of virk Asuka and Her performance of what? I call the Ukrainian national anthem of Dancing Russia. Barley considering the Ukraine has won Eurovision twice and this song which was a runner up is like the most iconic song in their catalog is interesting. I think Oh yeah like when when I was at the key contests I heard the song at official events. No fewer than thirty times. I that is an exaggeration. I think if there were campaigning to change the national anthem to dancing Washington by might have some trashy but Yeah like the the show opened with that and it just kind of a tribute to Verka for like twenty five years in the Biz but ever the business defined For whatever does but there was performance if that there was a performance of Make It rain champagne which Some folks thought was going to be like an internal selection or competing at Bitburg but The Guy who plays Verka was one of the judges inver so I don't know that would have brought controversy back to the process but was not meant to be and yeah so they had this pretty lengthy jazzy tribute and a lot of other faffing about the first competitive performance didn't happen until about forty seven minutes into the show so Six songs competed and The one that won the vote and the jury was go as Sullivan. The chance to go back and listen to this performance I did. What did you think the song reminded me of Poland in the staging felt like somebody mashed up Poland last year with Iceland's aesthetic last year ways ways. That like I like it. When this was performed at the semi-final I kind of had the same initial reaction that I had with Poland's entry last year. Like oh this is kind of an aggressive sound but it's been a total earworm since the final this past weekend. And it's just been like on a loop in my head it's like. Oh this is this is really good and it. Kind of reminds me of the song that Serbia sent Two years ago if they don't change the song at all which I've not expecting them to it's going to be the first entry that Ukraine has sent that is entirely in Ukrainian so they definitely hit that mandate of Please representing well. Yes yes. I'm really curious how this one's going to work like this. One feels like a risk for Ukraine particularly being in the first semi final which is going to have a lot of heavy hitters. This time around and I don't think you create never shies away from brisk so I fully agree and again like visually. I liked the performance a lot. Like tone what is kind of a very traditional song is core and then with like some choices in the both the production of the song and the production of the staging helped it feel fresh and and striking. I'm very excited to see this one's going to be like live Particularly with the instrumentation like the the the drug use in particular is up very catchy. Yes I also just really like the shoulder. Shimmy that the lead singer and her dancers do for like the instruments portion. Yes yes. It's very the a little teapot aesthetic. That seems to be going around. It's just like remedial dance is great for me like I'm looking forward to doing some. Menial dance in the arena as effective already like three or four trees. That kind of dance moves associated with it like this is going to be very well choreographed Audience Participation. Yeah so we're more of this. Overall it was a pretty good setup performances. The show still went on crazy long. I think it ended up being three and a half or four hours. It was re we were asking here in Chicago. Hq All right. Are we going to get the results? From the Nevada caucuses I or the results from Ukraine and Ukraine had like a three hour headstart and I was not sure what the answer is. That was how Saturday Got started here in Chicago A. How did your Saturday get started in Boston? My Saturday started with Slovenia and it was a lot of fun It kicked off with the host of their show. Clements Lakonia doing Dunkin Lawrence's arcade like a perfect replica of it. In like their weird thunderdome stage known on down to like the light coming down from the ceiling and then like dropping on the piano and creating a comedy bit and performance. He immediately came up and had a comedy style. Face injury that then got replaced with the comedy sized band-aid and like they did like the cut to studio to were. The host was supposed to be very surprised. Part of it was like it wasn't fully translating for me. Was that a comedy bit or did someone actually get hurt but eight. Over the course of the series. The injury kept morphing into different injuries. Yeah different locations late. Yeah there was one point where he was fully healed and the other partly his space got like half Zombie like on the side of the face. I credit them entirely for commitment to the bet. Even when you're not sure that the bid is working later in the show like there was a definitely worked where Again the host just did the medley of songs as traditional like a national file. But like literally did like every single one of Slovenia's last twenty five entries With the host portraying all of the parts which was kind of weird at a lot of portions. Yeah it really reminded me of like the green screen challenges that they do on Paul's drag race like that. It was that level of production value. Where it's just it's purposefully bad green screening and like a lot of the acts like it. It was him in drag and Yeah there was some Commitments to like the recreation. Like some of them are really good. I think it was maybe a total of five weeks that were rotated in thought. The five wigs used very judiciously and just a lot of order of changes. Yeah Yeah and it's also funny just because at least three of the acts that were being portrayed in this a bit Were were there in the studio. So it's just like. Oh that that that's always kind of risk. Just be like Oh dude you're drag impersonation of like somebody who's in the room but I think everybody really appreciate it. It was. It was well executed for being really really cheesy like I think. They struck the perfect tone. Yeah it was. It was the perfect Combo of of good taste and bad taste So the way that these lean final worked is there like everybody. Performed in the judges selected to entries in those entries performed again for the Tele. Vote and the teller. Decide the winner going into this. The the one to beat was Lena. Could Resolve. It is man like you. I and that ended up in the final along with and a cyclic is voter into voted. Is What one five? Did you have a chance to listen to this? Mike ended up switching to the Slovenian final. A wants Ukraine Kinda. Putt started puttering along and Yeah it was nice like this is the first time in a few years that I've been able to watch Emma live and It's also the first time that relies that it's Emma and not ama like E-e-eh I think of these choices. This was the correct one to win. Because it was just such a such. A strong and effortless vocal. It was impressive to watch watching through the first time along with everything else like these were the two that stuck out to me and I think voters had like very powerful vocals. Yup Yeah and I don't know man like you like they're still trying to do like the sad boy emotions thing but the way that they did. It was just like flashing a like cutting to camera to doing an overlay of a sad boy. There was just like yeah very I kinda liked. I prefer to a little bit more song. Wise though like it felt more it felt more current. I would agree voter. I feel like is something that I've heard you know in the last three to five years at Eurovision whereas man like you felt a little bit more. What's happening in Pop music right now? Yeah I totally agree. That Voda is of a type of song that frequently appears at your vision. But I'm surprised that it's I would say it's the first one of this year's field to be of that style I would agree. Yeah like Norway's isn't quite that and Albanians not quite that either. They're close their second cousins. Neighbors YEAH YEAH BUT YEAH. This was just like a strong vocal ballad. But if it's done very well so I think it's going to also depend on what the final version is going to be like if it's going to stay in Slovene or if it's going to be translated to English or well. It was originally written in English translated into Slovenian for the contest. So yeah I think it remains to be seen what the final version is going to be language whether it is all English or stays in Slovenian or a combination of both. Yeah like I could see the. I can see the chorus staying in Slovenia and just because voted translates to water and water is just not a very melodic word. So I'm not sure this one is going to win Eurovision but I think this one's GonNa be an interesting entry to watch agreed elsewhere. This weekend was the last of the initial heats of fest. My Raider was completely off for this week of like when I had my ranking of like okay these are these are going to be the five th these are going to be the foreign some order because like the thing I liked him. We'll get to that later Did not qualify at all At all And I was just like what But what did qualify is Hannah firms. Brave which she was favored heavily with the bookies before she performed the song did not surprise me that she went through directly and then Victor Cronin is going through to the final with troubled waters. I don't know I'm still thinking about that one and how I feel about that one. I like storm better like the staging of this more out interesting. Yeah I I think this is a much better song than storm. Like listening to these studio tracks. Yeah because like the live version was was rough. Yeah it's it From what I've read it. It seems like the flu or something was going around in Malmoe so well that that does not surprise. They're also getting hit with a massive storm. Oh okay yes it was pouring outside the Mamo arena. Jeez and I mean it's also Victor Code I think I think he just gets a little too amped up with live performing and tries to tries to put some mustard on the mustard bottle of explodes. Have been there. I have done that. I know exactly what's like to just suddenly get a surge of nerves in a positive way and this have to like ride that out and calm yourself down. Maintain with Hannah firms. Brave is remember Norwegian. Final. We're real scared about pray for me. All of its T. And T O Roma's can affirm saw that said hold my Aquavit Because this one has like big big TNT energy as well. Yeah and I don't like it at all. Yeah I skipped a Belfast. This meeting was catching up it. Because all all videos are now available on Youtube and all the songs available on spotify and Yeah just kept flipping back to his like I'm surprised there's so much hype about this. Compared to so many of the other entries this is another one where the writers beforehand argest gassing themselves up About although this one was less about word you we're we're talking so much about important social issues and it was just like this. One's like Kinda Spooky It's it's not really that spooky. They're just like this is kind of spooky metaphor because we're talking about. We're talking about stepping goes. It's like no. Yeah Wow oh man. No you're not talk to songwriters that is the lesson here also and like normally. I can't understand what they're saying because it's the sweetest but this is another. It's like an American or at least an American writer. Someone whose primary language is English like every time that one of them talks. And just like please don't please don't. I do not want to know how the sausage is made a kick you excited about the song about the staging Dresser like Jessica Alba from a few years ago Like down to address. And it's just not no no. It's not top of the bookies right which eases me a bit but yeah like. I'm not excited about that. One in the final going onto Johnson. We have free to orange. We are one which I thought was the fun performance and Benedict John and Simon Pai rons surface which they were singing real close at one on livers faces so good for them towards the end. I'm like just just can't already do. They have chemistry. I did not watch this performance like it was it was also. I need to explain that in context because I did not mean that in the chemistry in the two faces are real close together at trash so the audience is yelling them to kiss. I asked movies everybody I had. I think free too I had potentially as like my fifth as like almost getting through would not quite. That's fine and then like the other songs did not go through so not a grown vol is a force of nature. She represented Sweden before she had a son. Called Carpool Karaoke. And I was very afraid last week. Just from the description of that. Luckily it's in Swedish. So the only things I understood. The phrase Carpool Karaoke. And the words James Corden. There's a lot of energy happening in that song it is. It is sort of a bygone Sweden. It's a very schlager heavy song. But she sells the hell out of her energy level is somewhere between like Dolly Parton and a Charro. Oh I listened to the studio track ad after hearing it by immediate reaction was just like I do not want to see video of this this and probably around it live and then I have no clue. I have no desire to hear the studio version like guided. She also co writer of my favorite entry from this week. Jacob Kabul Carlsberg's Song Detroit Air Young sickener dig That one is a lot of fun and the performance was spot on for a band because it was like him in like a a backing band And the staging was was referencing. Pm Andrea work just a lot of great like primary colors cube shapes. It was fun and it was. I mean it was in Swedish. Which which meant that. The odds were against it but it would have been like a nice balance of things but it plays sixth so and on the other the other hand like last year. I had like three different things. I added to my regular rotation playlist that finished dead last in their heat. So there's there's always at least one of those at Belfast. It's pretty strong field this year so like somebody has to finish sixth somebody out there six. Somebody has to finish seventh this weekend. Looking ahead is Andre Johnson. And they've already announced the the the matchups for that and they kind of feel one-sided all the way around yeah yeah Domina is versus Ellen. Simon and I kind of think is gonNA lean towards Ati Stone. Democrat just has a lot of energy behind it who I don't like it. Sounds so much like net one macklemore song. I'm not thrilled about it right. But like that's how I would guess that one's going to go The one that feels like even more of an unfair lab Felix Salmon is against free to own. I get it Boyz with the motions of the very important social issue right now but also no thank you. Yeah I mean although is there any opponent that Felix would been able to face that he wasn't going to win that he will That's that's very true true. Yeah because Like the only one more that would have been a matchup would have been with me. But since they came out of the same semi-final they wouldn't. They would never see each other so yeah. Yeah which are mallow pizzas versus Paul Ryan? That's the one where I could see it really going either way. It's going to depend on the audience. 'cause like my favorite blueprint song like of the two songs. I think that talking in my sleep is is stronger to me. The thing but talking in my sleep though. I feel like that should have been a song given to Victoria or a female singer. It doesn't feel like it is like idiosyncratic to Paul Ray so I would agree with that. Yeah whereas like bellary which I agree like. It's not my favorite of hers. Either but I think she has more ownership of that Song Than Paul Ray has of his but okay yeah also like I just really like. Malou preach any want her. I want her to be see. I won't escape. The Escape Mel fasten just have a normal hop career. Yeah and then. Surrounding the matchups is Mendez versus John. Garnaut which feels right because both of those are kind of like Mendez has kinda the Latin Song. Drunk Garner has like the weirdly Irish Song That's the only one that does not feel like a one sided battle like that. What it really could be a coin flip and yeah could be those. I personally would prefer Garner of those two Really I it go either way. You're not expecting it to advance on Johnson and then win the whole thing like that one honestly it would like. I would not hate if it was the surprise. Twist of events not view is going through and Paul Ray. Yeah congrats thank you for participating but also any ways that will be Saturday. The other selections this weekend Mike. How was how Portugal? I did not watch any Portugal because I tap out after after watching Sweden. What after like seven hours of your vision stuff. You wanted to jump a break. I don't understand why they were. There was like twenty minute gap between Slow Years Tortuga Portugal. It was a really good semi-final like the the field. This year is really strong. And they're eight x performing and they were all very solid performances and the show was moving along at a really good clip. I would strongly recommend going back to Watch the performances. Not just the ones that advanced but like really. Take the time to watch all eight yet. It really hit a wall when it got to the television part like I think the Tele voting window was longer than the amount of time. It took to get through all of the performances. Why is this taking so long but of the four songs? That advanced elisas meadow G SINCERE. Seem to have the strongest audience reaction. Late studio audience always cheering when her clip came up in the recap package so that's probably one to keep an eye out for. I think my performance of the day was Barbara. Macos passe partout. Which was way more French than France's and tree this year in fairness. That doesn't feel that difficult to do this year. Yeah yeah but it was just like just kind of Broadway influenced number. There was just this really cute choreography and she was really cute. Dress and yeah. It was a lot of fun just at very delightful performance. I think Portugal's going to be spoiled for choice this year which is very exciting. I'm now just picturing ways. That France is going to make their performance. More French to balance out the fact that the courses in English and I'm just picturing just picturing them putting him in like a striped shirt barade- having him smoking a cigarette while he does it instead of a t shirt cannon. It's just GONNA be like a bad guy at CNN And they're gonNa do that so much. That would be nice though. I'm always up for snacks but it's yeah I guess. The last event from this weekend was Poland Which happened Sunday morning? Us Time Were you awake for Poland? I was I was not. I was awake for Poland and I was watching the twitter but I was not watching the actual coverage. I was just mostly just trying to figure out okay. Lake Malawi do Michael Real complicated flow chart for for all of the weird things about the song I do. Not I do not let me just quickly run through it now because it because it does delight me immensely so lake. Malawi the Czech Republic's entry from last year. Where singing a song co written by Caesar's Thompson who was Austria's representative in two thousand eighteen? It was co produced by Joust who was Norway's entry from that year if I if I'm keeping my dates straight Twenty seventeen twenty seventeen. I thought it was one off. They Co produced Samson Co wrote it And it was about one of the hosts from the Israeli contest in two thousand nineteen so just a lot of eurovision happening at once for about three minutes. Yeah and and I mean just the fact that like there was the whole rules kerfuffle about well technically Albert Czerny being the contestants in in this process then surprise it's Lake Malawi. It's attracted surprise Albert Cerny and lake. Malawi Yeah Yeah what. What was the end game here? I Yeah I don't know like I feel on hand like I'm glad that that Poland is trying new things on the other hand. I still feel like there are so many people who probably had a song in their back pocket. Who because they were not good at advocate? Yoki did not perform it and that doesn't sit well with me. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about this process but I mean at the same time like Selena's process also kind of weird so maybe that's the theme for this all kind of weird but like we got to hear the original songs in Trina trail. Be To judgy about it. Since I didn't get a chance to watch really any of Poland really show anyways. So what one D song that ended up winning Was ALICIA SH- implants goes empires album so easy Oh and leashes claim to fame are to this contest was winning the voice of Poland last fall and I sort of get that vibe from this track Like it does feel kind of like a winners performance for a reality show but yes Yet. But what what? What do you think of the song? I paid attention to it. Too Much lyrically largely just because the lyrics were like floating Karaoke style behind her as she performed as for all of the songs yes the song lyrically kind of doesn't make sense and it. Kinda just feels like you string together. A bunch of vocal runs Together with just enough connective tissue To make it into a song. 'cause it's very vocally impressive but outside of that like it didn't really move me. Yeah this one. I think there is a lot of potential here for this to be the most improved and tree from now today I agree that the lyrics are riddled with cliches. But if she can get a bit like I keep on wanting to stay guttural. And that's not the word that they weren't getting under the Volkswagen of the song and lifting it up to save her child old like that getting like. I don't know deeper interprets this. This feels like drag queen catnip this very drag friendly performance and if she can get like really get into like the diva nature of it. I think this could work. I don't know if that's in her repertoire though. She's got two months to configure all of that stuff out and yeah like I think if she can just like really dealt this song it might do something but it's just not quite there yet Yeah I'm curious to see how it grows in the in the coming months agreed. Yeah because again right now. It's not doing a lot for me but let's take a look at the full field because we have twenty seven songs yet to be revealed. So who knows who knows? That's all we are only at a third of the field being reviewed and they have Chint. They were left to songs a day at this point and and yeah and like our next ones aren't aren't being announced until what is it. Thursday was that yeah. Yeah Mike you see. You can't see me right now. I'm doing the judge Judy Animation. Where she taps on her on her wrists were her watches bags on the table. Starting this Thursday We're going to just get to play. Dodgeball where it's not just be. Us getting pelted with red rubber songs for various nations. Germany had already sent out a press. Release kind of quietly a few weeks ago. Saying hello yes. We will be revealing our song artists onto twenty-seven and really yes he will The big news on Saturday was out of nowhere apparently on the BBC there was announcement that that on TV. There is going to. We're going to hear your vision. News And twitter was all a buzz and mostly a buzz with. They're just GONNA give they're just gonNa tell us when the actual announcement is and Lo and behold yes We will find out this Thursday on radio one and two fingers crossed for for Ed. Sheeran announcement Mike because then then we will be very correct about all of the Big Five. Could you imagine we too much power? You've gone to our heads but anyway yeah when the announcement about the announcement for the announcement dropped on twitter There was just a lot of speculations. Like what do you? What do you think this is going to be at the back of my mind? I was thinking Kagan withdrawal because I'm just thinking like well. They're probably going to want to have an artist that has zero opinion about brexit. And we'll never be asked about it in interviews and it just kind of gets them out of the whole While gets out of the whole idea for this year it's GonNa be it's GonNa be rough for whoever On there have been there have been there was like a great article from vice where they followed Surrey from a few years ago. That's mopping-up recently. I think just shows kind of the uphill battle whoever the UK's artists and then there was an article in the Guardian this week. It's not a great one and like it. It feels very like what they would do about this where they're just sort of talking about. How will the U K handed things over the BMG because because they don't trust the British public it's like not entirely the case? Yeah and also and also if you look at something like Sweden like they all have record. Label backing So like this is not new this if anything this is good because now it's getting debut on Radio One and two. That's a big deal. Yeah they're all aspiring pop stars. Like you want record. Label Backing A. Yeah you want national support system behind whoever you're sending you can't you send you can't just keep sending you ran. Does who have a minimum of of actual stage experience. And then wonder why you're doing a bad job. Yeah you can't send us so if you want to do a terrible job. Yeah I have very just ruined Ford and airfare. That's all I need. That's all happening on Thursday. On Friday Belarus will be having their final and Serbia will be starting their process. Serbia is going to have semi-finals on Friday and Saturday. And then their final on Sunday Let's see also on a Saturday Saturday Saturday Saturday so along with Mel Fest. Andre Johnson Croatia is going to have its final and they're being extra helpful by not releasing the songs ahead of time so I guess that guarantees viewership in somewhere. I mean if you look at what else is happening on Saturday Estonia. We've had those songs forever. Yeah Yeah I'm I'm very concerned about Estonia this year. Has Their songs came out. I want to say November. It was in calendar year very early. It was very early and I keep forgetting that. They haven't actually chosen their song and artists yet in. That feels bad. Yeah well I mean. They had their semi finals two weeks ago. So like they're like really drawing out this process and you can just sort of tell from the field that these were songs that were selected within six months of arcade winning and it's like it feels very fall. Twenty nineteen and yeah. I'm just not very optimistic. About what is going to come out of that process This time around Yeah like they've cut their field of twenty four down to twelve at this point but yet nothing's really standing out as a compared to like the other songs that have already been selected. I think the studio may have an uphill battle this time around. Yeah let's see elsewhere. Iceland has their final this weekend. I'm super excited because I sat down and I looked at what the final five tracks are. And there's a wonderful sense of diversity there which isn't all that ask for so you may dotty fair has has is going viral and seems very taken by all of it and I kinda love it because out of nowhere. Russell Crowe tweeted about it and like specifically Russell Crowe linked to like a Dutch Eurovision fan site. So apparently he's just been like a superfan for awhile. Is it out of nowhere because There are some like conspiracy theories floating out there Particularly on Reddit on Perhaps net flicks and their money and their Whatever their interest is in Sponsoring this year on one hand. I get that because all of a sudden. It's this weird dark source of money yet. The other hand you can't do. You can't like by the hearts of Icelandic children who love dancing to the song. You can't let get random radio play in Germany and the Netherlands. I mean you actually probably can. That's what it's called PAYOLA. Yeah but that feels very weird. Do for the Icelandic entry But because it's popping up everywhere The the the number of streams the number of people watching the video has spiked dramatically I I've been paying attention to instagram. Because it's very fun and following Tarez. Instagram last year was great. So following this whole thing for both Dafa and the band has been cool. They did a show last week at Iceland's hard rock cafe. That was a lot of Eurovision covers which I like just as thinking of someone who knowing that he has to all the pre party events like he can do twenty seventeen entry he can do dancing Washington by like. That was the superfund one he can do for you. He can do all the things honestly. He can probably do hybrid cigarette. I would love to hear it but I'm super excited to watch that final. They have a lot of cool stuff in the mix and I would love to see who gets to play with Netflix money. Who Yeah 'cause like can you imagine a think about things on a net flicks budget? Yeah that's why I'm the most excited about that. Because they would feel like they would have the most fun with also happening on the twenty ninth. Because apparently that's the only way we can do. These things Both the leap year. It's a leap year. We we only get one of these every four years. Yeah we all have to have our final on it. Yeah on a Saturday. Like the young stars are the SARS are lining and twenty of them are in Moldova for the final too. Many please please remove five of them I will. I will settle for fifteen person. Vital Moldova alternately. Just pick your entry please. Yeah although from what is available on spotify because not all the tracks are available at the moment There are a lot of fun ones in there. And there's a good chance that wedding party Moldova. Maybe Back Zach. That's my favorite Moldova. Yeah Yeah I have listened to Potter Parfitt Song about wine and I'm just like yes. That's all Saturday on Sunday. As we mentioned earlier Serbia will have their Final Greece will be dropping supergirl and Romania will have their national selection for Roxanne's Song I really like all of them like I think for media's GonNa do some magic this year I think this change up informat Might be what the doctor ordered like. I think like We mentioned last week that There were comparisons to do a LEEPA and billy Bush and I hear it now and I like what I'm hearing. I definitely recommend checking out Romania. You have the chance That will probably be on Youtube. I know that their Website player can be kind of finicky with Gio blocking the youtube broadcast last year. I don't believe that was geo blocked but Yeah Yeah keep an eye on her twitter. We'll have updates. We will have the link and so yeah but I don't think there's going to be a lot a lot a lot a lot in this coming week so many things. I am already stockpiling meats and cheeses for sure heater reward. Sort of Grey's my way. Through the buffet of semifinals. We semifinals and finals. Yeah we are at fourteen songs. At this point we will be into the twenty s by this time next week. Hogan's do it for this episode of the Euro. What they for listening. The podcast is hosted by Ben Smith. That's me and Mike mccomb. That's me you can find on our website at euro wet dot com and on twitter and instagram. At your what. We'd love to hear your comments questions and topics. We should talk about in your episode. You can subscribe to the euro on Apple podcasts. Spotify the PODCAST APP of your choice. Sure check out our spotify playlist inspired by this week's episode. We'll be back next week to try and make sense of. Oh No era so many with Mike so many so many there will be so many things.

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"Pittsburgh steeler fans happy holidays days and Merry Christmas and all of the above. This is Dave scofield coming at you for another episode of Steeler Stat Geek. This is a very special Christmas Mrs Episode Because Christmas Eve is on a Tuesday. And that's what we do the show and joining me as become the custom is my big brother. Rich shoot rich. How are things going today on? This December twenty fourth been a busy day. Busy Day a lot of work to get done but Nice to take a break and talk steeler football for a little bit here. Yeah I have a whole lot of work to do. I mean a whole lot of work to do but I'm but I'm glad I could be. He ever do this. got a lot of things going on here. But but that's that's great. I know we're we're early minute into the show and I wanted to wait a a little bit to do this but I can't I just can't there certain things in life and certain milestones and certain holidays. I just don't seem complete until certain things come. Come around now you and I as kids growing up. We shared a bed the Perry but now I can. Here's one it was not Christmas morning until we woke up and had to wait to get up and you hit it play on the tape and we busted out and listen to one Christmas in Hollis Christmas morning until we listened to Christmas in Hollis. I still play on Christmas Morn K.. But but there's something else out there that you need something else. She gotTa have and for our steeler family out there. I'm hoping maybe maybe this is something that it just doesn't seem like Christmas until you have something. So we'RE GONNA throwback we're going to do the final stanza from the Nineteen Eighty S. He's here we go. Well they gave you the install Woodley Brown it again. You and what's Chad is. I'm pretty sure we had a better quality of audio when we had that taped off the radio was kids. 'cause I remember US listening we know that four years at did not seem like it was Christmas unless we listened to the steelers twelve days of Christmas now updated it recently. That's still the best one. I was talking with my father. Who wanted to hear that? Because he's down here visiting Say Our father And we were trying to debate on what the year was. And Yeah I thought for sure I was bright and because I'm like if they're talking about all these players and they're talking about a fifth chuck no Super Super Bowl team and they're talking about Matt Bahr kicking. It had to be one thousand nine hundred combat barley kicked in seventy nine and eighty seventy nine to get their forth so if they were going for their fifth breath it had to be nineteen eighty. So I don't know if that was ever a tradition to everyone else out there. I hope that you could actually hear that coming through able to hear that Bro. I could hear all right so now it feels like it is officially a steelers Christmas. So Hey let's go ahead and jump into the show. Let's do some numbers Man I don't even want to think dealers have given me Cole. I Sad I'm sad. Yeah they they. They gave us a bunch of coal. They gave us a bunch of call. And now I know the saying of with enough pressure. A cold turns into diamond. Well guess what. They got some pressure this week because they've got to go into Baltimore and wasn't that game to even have a chance at the postseason last year all of it does feel like lecture all over again except there's only one on difference not only one. There's one major difference last year. The expectations the whole season for for the steelers to be in the playoffs especially when they were sitting it was it seven two and one of into him on I mean they they had a. I was doing the articles on like the magic number for the steelers with like five or six weeks left in the season and they couldn't there and they just couldn't get there now this year whole different front story Ben. Rothlisberger goes out week to if you would've told people after week to especially after week three when the steelers were owned three the. Hey you're gonna I have a chance to make the playoffs going into week. Seventeen people would laugh their heads off said well. I guess I guess the Ravens just weren't very good and we still had a chance to win the division. Now that wasn't it either. It's not like an NFC east this year where nine winds will get you a division title this. I mean the ravens are the locked the one seat so the way things have played out for the steelers to still be in. The discussion is actually something that most fans would've taken back back in week. Two or three so but sluman like last year it does especially the last couple two weeks. I know you were right. In terms of you know we were seven to one last year. But you gotta give you gotTa look back two and a half weeks ago it was like hey we've got you know Buffalo. You got the chats. We got the Ravens Three Games. Play get one of those. Where probably in and you're you're like give Buffalo? Hello it's a done deal get the jets. Probably you know and so far wherever tip yep and other for two I'll start start with the number four with it because it's a two week number ten bony been able to put up ten points in each each game over the last two weeks horrible. That's when the defense told you the team to seventeen points and sixteen points. The defense has given up thirty three points total in two weeks and the steelers her own till I think we we know where a lot of this blame lies. What do you think fire Keith Butler? I don't know if you cut jeff did a new show last night and it was funny because he he texts Williams is like doing a new show tonight. I need a name show so I I. I Li- I throughout something that just being dumb Awesome like the heart of the matter because but ended it was terrible just to make him laugh and then my neck suggestion Himalayans jumped all over it so just new show was called next man up and and one of the things he was talking about was was just think of where people were last year with Keith Butler and now all of a sudden you look at his defense and they're like people aren't complaining about Keith. Keep Butler but we'll bring up. What Jeff talked about that a little bit Let me just say you're talking about the offense in terrible numbers are putting up up to something. I started thinking about a couple of days ago was do you realize what the steelers would look like if we had our defense and a defense that ranked fifteenth to twentieth in the NFL offense ranked fifteenth and twentieth. Yeah Office yes fifteen. Fifteen to twenty if the offense Frank Fifteen to twenty with our current defense. Think about where we'd be. Yeah kind of like we got here from. I don't know that that it's INS sir. It essence. I don't know where you pronounce it. But he said Multiple Times. Imagine if we had been and a healthy offense just to go with his defense just just just imagine even after week two if you said that the steelers were were still in it because their defense had been playing lights out you would have thought people were crazy Z.. You would've been completely insane because the problem had been the defense for so long and then all of a sudden you know you you have a first round draft. Pick that you'd move up to take you make fantastic move to bring in someone else. Even though cost you next year's first round pick and this defense looks completely different. It looks very good. Okay now sorry. Let's stick on that offense. I said first of all I thought being imagine if we were even ranked somewhere fifteen to twenty offense all right. What if we could run the ball like we ran the ball last year? Yeah okay so so. Let's say did she talked about Ben. Take Ben out of that. What if we could just run the ball like we ran the ball last year? Yup what would that do for our offense. Oh exactly but there's just so so much to it because why can't they ran it last year. They like all off. It's how the defense is not respecting the pass. Because the defense doesn't respect back to pass their loaded up on the run. I mean even I mean there's a lot of cause and effect here and I've been absolutely ripping randy feet nerve for the season. But it's funny as the week goes as the weeks have gone on and I've seen this offense and I've seen a quarterback play I'm the one who you've talked one Jefferson Hartman off of the ledge after the last game. I'm like I'm not convinced he's the problem anymore. I'm really not convinced he's the problem. I'm not saying saying that. He's not a problem. I'm just saying I'm not convinced that he's the UH problem. Because yeah I mean there's layers to this. I've told told the story before on other shows. I don't know if I have on this one or not but my last season coaching coaching high school. I coached I was the head coach of the freshman team at our school. And the very first game were you out there. And we'd had less practices because the head head coach of the program didn't want the freshman distracting the other players for the first four days of practice. We started four or five days later so we had that many less practices to go with and and we go into our first game and I had I had like nobody to play the offensive line. We who we were. I was just trying to put any able bodied person there. I had no sized nothing. Nothing we go in. We had the game plan. That's what we're GONNA do. It was even half time and I was. I'm holding my my play sheet and I turn to my sister and Co two. Ironically is now the head Varsity varsity coach at the same school and I said to him coach. I said there's not one play on this paper that I can call. It's going to work. We can't actually do any of this. We just so ready to play and we because we didn't have the personnel had kids. That did no. I mean I was trying to teach them in a so hard to teach them who to block when you have to teach them for the very first time how to block and a very very short and schedule so so I can completely see the whole idea of feeding her like. I'd like to do more things but we just don't have the people to do it. I mean you could see a major difference difference in in just the balls being thrown when Mason Rudolph came in for Devon. Hodges just zip it was on the ball and everything that was completely different It kind of showed a little bit more of you know as much as you like ducks attitude and Moxie and fire and everything in command and confidence. You could see where the other things that he had that were lacking you could actually see Rudolph game and after him which happened yet and unfortunately As there's either may not know Mason RAF was put on injured reserve today. So that's a move. That was easy to make it because he was going to be out. You know definitely really. Even if he was going to be four weeks it wasn't worth keeping it around. So it's just there the defenses. I mean we talked about stop bringing out Zach. Banner saying we're going to run right here but my goodness at least try to put somebody out there. That will help you be able to run it. I mean I'm starting to see it from both offsides. Now I'm like yes. You could use so much more creativity but if the guys can't handle what you're doing I can't say that I I can't say which one's the problem anymore anymore. It's just overall bad whether it was feet ner or the lack of skill of the players Yes but it not to knock feet near little bit them. Here's where here's something. He cannot get away from all right. He's had now seventeen weeks. What have we figured? What does he figured out? That's the problem head seventeen. He'd weeks and hasn't really shown that he has figured out anything that S- although you can talk about personnel and things like that that's still got to be a little bit scary. Oh and forward that. He's had time that he's had and hasn't really done much to figure out what what works. We thought what made way back in that Miami game or whatever. Oh Hey we're renting wildcat. Maybe that'll work so he's kind of stuck with that and we found out now. We got to stop doing that. Well Yeah Yeah. Because I can't remember who said it or who he quoted from so I'm just going to say it. Creativity and Gimmicky are not the same thing. Now you can't go to just be gimmicky and think that's being creative. You can be creative in other ways. But I'll be honest with you one. Benjamin Toddler Office Burger makes it a whole lot a lot. Easier to be creative short. So so I it's just. I guess started to put myself at coach feeders. Shoes choose. I'm like is he really out there. Saying there's nothing I can do and you kind of got me a little bit more on board with this was I. Don't always watch all the other. NFL Games. I I love to I. Just don't always have the time but because my father was in town Mike. I'm GonNa have on the Monday night football game so we're watching the Monday night football game while I'm working on some articles and whatnot for by still Kurt. Her Dot Com. which is your one? Stop Shop for all things. Pittsburgh steelers bringing you plenty of articles even through the holiday makes you check it out all right. I got that plug in. They're pretty good But as we're watching that game I felt the same way about the Minnesota Vikings last night. My goodness I mean I know kirk cousins has Never WanNa game woman and football and everything that dude had zero time to even begin to try to throw a pass. They couldn't block anybody. They couldn't run the ball. They see their longest longest drive. Forty one yards that because they're Russian everybody okay because you knew they could run a ball. 'cause they I mean talk about a team I mean. They're decimated at the running back position. Vikings are so it was just. Hey we're opinions back and come after cousins. Because that's their only chance to vikings would have the win so yeah it was. It was an end of course long touchdown and gets called back to hold that children the reason he had long enough time to throw. But let's not talk about the way let's advice I'm going back to see us going back to going back to feeder. Maybe here's my disappointment in him. Okay and I'm actually GonNa Steal Your phrase okay your phrase that you have thrown out there bunch Agai you gotta think about where we've been as a team this year with injuries and everything and we as you have said we've been playing with house money right that's been we've been playing with house else. Money nothing to lose. But we haven't coached our offense that way exactly but I is that from coach feeder or is that from coach. Tomlin blocks are likely question when the line was that he quoted. What'd he didn't kill us? It seemed like that was their offensive. Philosophy don't kill us give us give us a chance to stay in the game and see what happens with the defense but the problem is you say they. They haven't killed us but what what is it twenty two or twenty three now the consecutive games with at least one turnover. I don't know I ran out of fingers and Tokyo can't throw it in the in the live chat. 'cause he's in there it's so I don't is that feeder is Ah Tomlin. Is that fear telling Tomlin. That's what we need to do. Or is that Tomlin telling feeding this what I what I don't know all I know. Is that for a team that says they don't live in their fears. They should have been playing awfully scared on offense for most of the season. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. Manny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college. Football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's Oriented spoiled every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro. Wrestling's too unfashionable. Pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college. Football every we now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early. And unfashionable pants. That coaches wear now. If you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. Yeah yes exactly exactly. We're say one thing but boy it doesn't look that way. Yeah Yeah I mean when you see what these quarterback now I know. It's not offers same competition but when you saw the way that they played in the preseason and everything that's because they weren't scared note the offense wasn't scared to lose a preseason season game and you just saw a different mentality with either one of your quarterbacks they went. I'm afraid I really roasted coach feet in her because I felt like he was hurting Hurting Mason Rudolph more than he was helping off was the starter then. Duck came in and did a great stuff Mike. Let's just fly with the duck and see what happens once again. I'm worried worried was. He was coach feeding her actually. Hurting hodges with what they're trying to do I mean when you listen to Rudolph's interviews reviews and whatnot. It was always like well. We gotta take care of the ball and coach feeding her. Says this and I gotta look at his mic. They had them so concerned about not making the wrong long play that it seemed like he wasn't prepared to make the right play right and although I haven't heard that with the interviews with hodges as much I'm wondering if that was the philosophy Swedish creeping in I don't know all I know is that I still can't believe based on the quarterback play that the steelers did. Yeah but they did. Was I ready for either one of those quarterbacks to come in and have a Ben Rothlisberger moment where they just grab this team through on their shoulders and say. I don't care that I'm a rookie. Let's take this by storm. That would have been fantastic but it didn't happen. I felt like they weren't given as much opportunity based on formations and play calls out of there's formations. That's still a problem that I have with coach feeder. You know what I gotTa answer something. I saw way back. I think I was snowman. The put it out there. He wanted to know about Rudolf Shoulder. Her what happened with Rudolph is there is. If coach Tomlin said he didn't have surgery but I did see a report that he had to have a procedure to have it put back in place which doesn't assuming surgery is that he was in a dislocation or sprain of the SC. Join Stern Oklahoma joint. which if you're watching on Youtube it's where your her clavicle meet your sternum? It was on the left shoulder. I know it because I actually sprayed the exact same thing in college throwing doing the what is called the thirty five pound weights which is the indoor equivalent of throwing the Hammer. If you know anything about track and field that was indoor track and field that I actually did something or I were jolted that and had a and this part of the season because of because of that injury. So that's that's the deal with Rudolf. They said He. It's six to eight weeks. Which means he's going to be ready for the off season and everything should be fine moving forward his just that his two thousand eighteen season in his over? Jimmy has a numbers from this past game. Just kind of print and awful and everything. I don't like that at least one. I don't want to say anything. So much specific now that number other than the fact that in going through stats and everything we if you look at the paper we played ever so slightly ahead ahead of the jets absolutely except on the scoreboard. Yeah now not well ahead of the jets but we played slightly. We're yeah it wasn't like suggest came in and made us look terrible. You know they weren't blowing anything out of the water either rushing numbers very similar passing numbers very similar. There's numbers I was wanting lookout. There was at least six major stat categories when the steelers were out of the jets. You're ready I down sixty two fourteen. How about total yards yards to sixty two to fifty nine one yard more? How about passing yards one? Eighty five to one seventy four about total plays sixty six to sixty sixty completion percentage. I don't have that percentage but twenty five or thirty seven which was better of sixteen of Twenty six and time of possession Russian of thirty one and a half minutes to twenty eight and a half minutes so there was a lot of statistics where the steelers did more. Now if you even look at Not the number of rushing yards or the number of Russia's but if you look at rushing average the steelers were were order they were better in rushing average. They just didn't attempt that as much and therefore they were a little bit behind in yards so it was just is one of those things. Here's here's the number for me. It's the number of one. I'm not talking about one trip. The steelers took one a snap in the reds in the red zone. One snap in the red zone and it resulted in an interception one line intercept one turnover. Yes once they were over one of the red zone with a turnover on one snap. They made it to the nineteen yard. Line the only time they got closer was the how the world's the jets defense give up. That played at the Andre Johnson for that Dutch Shell so mad about this game because the steelers were now tended nothing at the two minute warning going into halftime and they put up ten points in the final two minutes. They get the field goal. They get the big play on defense. They get the big play offense they. They're going they're getting the ball coming out of the half and they lay a complete egg in the second half a okay. So here's the part. I was not actually watching the game on. TV TV on Sunday. I was listening the game on satellite radio because I was having to do some work on race card so I'm working on her car and I'm listening to that. I the way you were just reacting was me. I was doing that I was talking like that. I was showing like that. Nobody around to hear me but I'm still doing that. And it was a title is the game was going on. It's like how can you come out and lay such an egg in the second half. We run the two minute offense all the time. Yeah but the thing is how comfortable were they with it with the court young quarterbacks well guess what the guy that was in the game later when Rudolph went out injured is who was your started going into the the game and if you have a starter that's coming into the game. It's not ready the a two minute offense. Just there's a problem there. He had started already weeks in a row. Yeah yeah had to be so. It's frustrating it's everything. I thought I honestly he wasn't perfect because if he was perfect he would've scored more points the time he was in there. But I thought Mason Rudolph did not look like the same Mason Roth that we saw against the browns and bengals he looked more like the Mason. Rudolph that we saw earlier he had had a Lotta Zip on the ball and he didn't seem to be playing scared. Yes does a tendency to throw a lot of balls behind receiver. So yes if I could take if I could take Hodge's anticipation with Mason Rudolph's arm. We might have been rothlisberger. Yeah Well I. I've said before if you could mold the positives of those two two quarterbacks together then you have a franchise quarterback various. I mean mean and they're not that different players but it takes a couple of shrinks from one a couple of strength from the other would cover each other's weaknesses and there you go but it really didn't. I mean I would have had more confidence going into this game this week. If either a Mason Rudolph did not get hurt and and and was playing or even if he got hurt but was well enough to come back this week or be Devlin Hodges would have led the steelers on a scoring drive and and had won the game. I would have felt much better now. I know things were really close at the end. James Washington almost down with that pass. Juju Smith Schuster took Goliath blame for not catching that passed. That would have been a horror that would have been a lot of horrible. That would have been an amazing catch because he was reaching back behind his head but but in his defense what screwed up that play was was the botch was the the bad snap pressure his face and also people like why are we thrown into the end zone when it was fourth Seven because he couldn't even look to see if anybody was open because after getting the ball is down to get the ball and come up. He didn't have time to look through progressions. He had guys in his face. And you can't take a sack on fourth down so he just leaves it in the direction where he knows. Someone's going so but I'd rather see that hat. Take a sack on fourth down. Yeah so I I actually commended for trying to put the ball out there and he got really close to them but it would have been a really toughened amazing play juju mistimed his jump a little bit. I know someone just said there That was Dennis. But if you look about it Juju so you know what's coming it was. It was Kinda a little bit behind his head as well It it would've been a tough play but it was still a makeable play but you were put into some situations. Their batum line is I mean the steelers were down three. Got The ball in field goal range then had a sack and then a botch snap and law seventeen yards or the next two plays and had to hunt. I mean that's the kind of stuff that you were dealing with. Is that even when you got in range for a long field goal next thing you know I mean maybe you should've kicked field one second hour to sound like a that much of a naysayer but but that's kind of kind of how it was. They had their chance right there. or I'm like all right to go to tie this game. Now get some points on the board. Then you're going to be all right. Can I ask a question for you because we've been talking a lot of the year ear about all these bad snaps in shot. Okay at what point then did we say you know what we're struggling in the shotgun and stop running it every every down. Stop around the shotgun. Yes us here you go. Here's why you WanNa know why because Ben runs burgers better quarterback and he would say Chabal Shotgun. Ben Rothlisberger was. It's not our quarterback this year. Here's the coach to the players. You wish you had you have to coach to the players that you have you ready here we got you got to hear this market. pouncey hurts his name he comes out of the game. The very next nap was when Mason Rudolph because what happens. BJ jiffy comes in. Hasn't taken they go under center fin steps on Rudolf Fans. It's up runner it off. Yeah and that's and that's when he heard his his SC joint. That was the end he stayed in for a couple of plays but that's when he hurt himself was the very next play because they go L. Win and go under center and granted the snap worked but didn't work. I don't know if it was Finley's fault I don't know if it was Rudolph's felt what I don't want to place blame on either one of them because I didn't I once again. I had to watch the game on stream it online so I couldn't go back and look at anything like that. I'm not sure which player or maybe a little both or just one of those things so it's just so that's what I'm saying so many times. I'm like coach. which featured? Why don't we get creative and do this and they try to do it and it doesn't work so I'm like mayb? I was really happy last game. They came into the jumbo package and the ball ran a really nice past play. They did. I'm trying to remember which one it was because I couldn't go back and watch it but they came back banner and Johnson And Washington in the game I think for the two percent. Yeah we we had to decent receivers in with the jumbo pack. That think. That's the second time in two two weeks that they've done that. The last time they ran this time they threw that was. Okay Yep Yep. I've turned over the live chat if they had any numbers from from this past week. Because we're getting ready to move forward. I have one more number but I WANNA do it as my transition number and I'm trying to get back to see what I can find them looking specifically typically for numbers since I said that There weren't nap wanted to know. 'CAUSE NAP was at the game. He was there. I actually got a message from on. That showed that that showed the stadium and everything. Well I didn't get it from him. He sent the Bryan Bryan thump. To me he says it says. Didn't they blow three potential attention. Field goal feel possession opportunities. I'm the one I was talking about. What specifically infield go range? They had another one right but I think might even Dr Right before it or two drives before they got the ball at the forty two at their own forty two that I mean that close I mean think four forty two you need twenty five yards and you got to go but it was at least two. Could you had the red zone interception and then you had had the one you were just talking about where we were in range than got backed up onto consecutive place. But I was with him. I was thinking there was one other one one other possession where we were at least close where we probably needed to gain like five yards on on third down and instead we like lost too There's of course you know the interception with one early on but that's what I said. Yes I don't I thought I was reading. I thought I thought you said that so I was. I thought it was agreeing with you. Dennis had said I know it looked like p button stop working. Can they have to play the playbook. They have no matter who the players are. That's Dennis has completely turned around completely. You have a playbook and you have a philosophy but you can adapt that week by week based on your players. Think about it. How much if the steelers would have look? We'll see last season and this might have been part of the reason why they moved on from when they had Josh Dobbs as their backup quarterback. That's not a saint playbook and that's one of the things that the steelers wanted to do to simplify was to get another court. Get other quarterbacks similar enough to Ben Rothlisberger that you didn't have to completely redo the playbook so you have the playbook but you have a lot of liberties within that when you're developing your game plan each week so I Wanna I think three dollars so I hope it's a K.. By when I get to the end because it sometimes as long as it's tough but Ginger let's he's been so much fun. Regardless of the end result it showed a steelers team with adversity and Tomlin making something out of a terrible start. What a season? I think we can say that when the season is over the fact that were in it right now and the steelers two straight weeks were in control their own destiny a you know they lost a game still had control their own destiny and then lost another one and technically they were. They were favored to win both games. And that's been the part the spin hard to swallow like up until the last two weeks. I've been all over this season and thinking. Hey this is good but when we got backs-to-the-wall back having been to the wall we're we were out front and instead of grab it we've kind of let it slip through our fingers seniors. Yep Yep Yep so let's see Donald said this is a number. He said two games when you get in the playoffs steelers anti-thai loose. That's true. There's actually another route. Where if they both lose they can get in? But you know rather than I can take five minutes. Explain all of that to you but we've got other things to do. Let's just worry about the steelers win. Okay here we go. This is a good one. Steeler steeler fan seventy four ten and a half sacks for study pre this year. That was a big question that people ask what he what he get double digit sacks. I had him in eight or eight and a half was my estimate in the air so this has been a nice nice surprise I see some other people that we're talking about to I know someone here later. Says I got a stat for you too but I'm not sure yet I'll just just read it rhythm bringing up because he put it over two years not making the playoffs. What's crazy even only the playoffs? They win this week and get the mind winds than they match. Last year's win total deal with seems kinda crazy. I'M GONNA throw out another number before I do. I want to remind everyone. 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And that number three was three third-down convergence the steelers only had three third down conversions against the jets and that was a problem we had early in the season. And that's the problem that it has reared its ugly head yet again It's been a problem. What do you have any thoughts on that room? Feeling trying to pay more attention to Taylor drives and why we're coming up with such issues on third down suffer. third-down issues are because of lack of doing anything on first and second down we can. You can't expect to have a sustained drive where you are having to complete multiple third down in eight. Yeah that's a very good point so and we have. We have third down seven plus yards a lot. Yeah Yeah we really do it was I. Don't know I can't remember how the drive ended. I don't even drive. It was because like I said I couldn't go back and watch the game. Aim 'cause I couldn't record it so there was there was one driver. I don't even think it was. I think already gotten I down and on first down. They threw the ball. They have three or four yards to see the ball. got three or four yards listed at second and six and guess what the jets are thinking. They're going to do it. Because it's what they always do with the steelers dealers when the steelers start to throw the ball on first down the commit to throw in the ball and every now and when they go run on first down you can almost always run on second down to then have a hassle. third-seeded run run pass or pass pass pass so just God I love it. You know what they did. They did pass. They didn't run on like it was like second second seven or second six. And what do you know they got that first down on that second down run And I'm like this is the kind of stuff just little little stuff that I'm talking about but it's so funny is so much outcome based criticism. You Know Jeff mentioned this before he got. He was frustrated withdraw aw on secondhand eleven. He's like for like no gain or minus one yard. He's like what if they bust that for fifteen yards. I'm talking about how genius of a call was so when it comes the bad play calling what makes it bad play calling is when the team can snuff it out so easy because they know it's coming yes but if that's not the case and you're just making a different call and the execution just isn't there I mean it's it's really an outcome based thing I've got some numbers here to dive into with with with a third downs. And that is that that the steelers right now have seven games. Seven Games in two thousand eighteen in which they had three third third down conversions or less. They had three for all of them. One of the one game only had two third down conversions. Those Games where the first five games of the season when they one in four Seattle San Francisco Cincinnati and Baltimore they only had two third down conversions when they played cleveland the first time in lost and they only they had three third down conversions against the jets. So that's seven games. The steelers did manage to win one of those games and that was there. One pretty handled Handy Hanley want they won handily i. It's not right. The first time they played the bengals part of that was because I they probably just sitting third down they even faith that yes so. That's another thing that that's very interesting. Is You have to convert on third down. If you're not even getting to third down when you're getting first downs on first and second doubt I mean it really comes down to as much of anything I down when you're when you're getting five to seven yards on first down when you're when its second in three anything's possible you can even take the deep shot. That's that's a you know. Second in two was a fantastic time to take a deep shot. Because you still have a very manageable third down if it's incomplete so as much we're gonNA talk about third down I know Lance Williams has been harping on this for a long time. It's first down. It's it's the lack of success when I doubt as much anything. Yes yeah I believe it or not and second because you talked about it just a little bit earlier. Let's make the first down on second down. We spend too much time almost like our play Collie was we begin. I don't even want to say a driving every time we have I down. It's almost like our mentality is okay. We got three plays to make this. We're GONNA take every place and get ten yards. No let's not take three plays and get ten yards. Let's get ten yards plus into place. Let's get ten plus yards in one play. Yeah it's like the philosophy on first down is can we get something or even better or can we not lose yards on first down. It's almost like they don't even want to give up a sack on first down. They gotta try to do things like that there. I still think it almost seems like your plane scared. Why isn't the goal to get at least eight yards on first down? Let's let's shoot for eight yards. Let's play you know it's almost like okay. We're going to set up plays. He's here we go. If we could get to three hundred we'll give them and then three to four on second down and give ourselves a third unmanageable. How about give yourself a second in short I would love second in short so but then again look look book the personnel that I mean? It's such a vicious cycle with all these different things. I've got some of the numbers I wanted to throw out there with. Only but with seven games of three first downs or less. The steelers are tied for the second worst with Arizona in Denver. That house will have seven games with three first down three third down. Conversions are less thirty seven third down conversions or last year. We gotta right and Washington has nine nine of their fifteen games. They have had ed three or last third down conversions with at least one game in there with one and several with too. So that's that's a problem with some other teams but this is really bad when it comes to looking at the steelers you can say. Well they don't have the worst third down conversion in the league. Yeah but they do have some of their worst numbers for the franchise like when I'm using pro football reference to to bring up somebody stats. They only have stuff on third down conversions and things like that going back to nineteen ninety one. So we're going from nineteen ninety-one on by far the worst steelers team with third down. Conversions was nineteen ninety ninety one which was chuck noll's last year they were. They were awful. They were really really bad. Let's see they. They had they only had a thirty three point. Nine percent in one thousand nine hundred and thirty three point nine is what they have right now on their third third down conversion rate but ninety the woman had one point five. I think they had like It it's got some really bad number when you get back to look at nights and ninety one the highest third third down conversions. The steelers have had all season was eight against the chargers the last time they only had one game a season with eight or more third down. Conversions was was in two thousand nine. We only had one game of eight or more. So it's been a problem but quarterback quarterback play is a big thing to go with that so I have a ton more stats than I could just go into that but I don't know that it's even the necessary like Like for example running the ball. Who Do you think has the most third down conversions running ball leadership has the most third-down rushing attempts on the steelers Out Trey edmunds believe it or not. Trey edmunds only has two third down attempts okay he is and he did not convert on any of them. It is a tie or the number of Russia's on third down between of Eight eight between Benny Snell junior who converted seven of the eight at Mason Rudolph. Oh my goodness who has four out of Eight. He has eight Russia's on third down okay. Duck has seven Russia's on third down right behind him and he's already only converted to those two like Connor. It was one of five Edmonds is Oh to samuels is off. Three and white is one of two when it comes to to third-down rush so there's some crazy and interesting stuff there and I was also really surprised with the number of completions that this either have on third down versus the number of conversions. Meaning they were. They have a lot more completions convergence which means they're throwing the ball short constantly on third down like it like Rudolph has twenty eight had twenty eight third down conversions through the air but he completed forty three passes right. So Oh that's that means fifteen times. They completed the pass but not for long enough for the first out. Hodges is is even worse. He has sixteen. I down completions on on third down but that was on thirty three completions not attempts completions so it so there was seventeen times John's where he completed the ball but shorter the sticks. So it's just it's just crazy stuff so I wish I knew the answer I could. I wish which could say oh. It's the offense coordinator which the scheme. Oh it's the blocking all it's the snaps all it's a it's a it's it's the it's the running you know whether it be the line or running backs receivers. It's it's so bad that it's too deep to really say what it is. Yeah so I can't believe that this offense has been able to hold on enough to even get the steelers day wins when it especially when you look at how. They've played the last few weeks. Yes yes but again is has some of that. Been Philosophy. The old yeah. Well let's let the offense kill us and in doing so they can't give you enough to win yes or kill you anyway. Yeah yeah I I think that's a good way to sum up. The last two weeks is is that well. Two weeks ago it was it was all the turnovers five turnovers that was definitely up. Kill you but this past week it was. They didn't do so much to kill you as much as they just couldn't do do they. Couldn't revive you. They couldn't you know which to expect the defense to you know. SET US up in the red zone four times again. Exactly exactly exactly so and any specific numbers. You'd like to see this week. Everyone else one win. Yeah that's really all I. What is the one win? You know at this point in time based on everything. I don't care if we're doing rushing. I don't care for doing it passing. I don't care if we're doing on defense or special teams just. Can we scrape enough together to win a ballgame realized because I was typing exactly. You're siler yes and you know me. I'm not silent. No not as yeah it was I really. I wish I could say I was I. I wish I knew what the steelers can do to win this game now. What's crazy is the way that the oddsmakers I had an article Michael went out? Was it this morning today. Tuesday yeah. I'm so confused with everything that went out this morning on which I do every morning about the current odds for the steelers game coming up. You know they're favored in Baltimore. You know why. They're favored bottomless resting. Their players tires tracked but what what with them. I think they're resting out of the and I think they they announced either five or six players to have more on defense the rest for for offense. I don't care if the rest of their top seven offensive players. Would you still say that that that. Would you think that offense made that made them worst. I and the steelers offense now the only thing is are they saying that utilizing those those few players is GonNa make it where they really can't do anything against steelers defense so maybe yeah maybe yeah. They're put an awful. You Got Vegas and put an awful lot of faith faith in maybe yes and why we did this show live. I actually had an article that came out Talk if you're on here live go check it out behind still kurt dot com one-stop shop toy Pittsburgh steelers these the article was about was the was that the NFL stick it to the steelers by not including one of the Games they flex the four twenty five because they did not move. The chiefs chargers games game before twenty. Five it's at one. So if the chiefs win that game at one o'clock the Houston. Texans have absolutely absolutely nothing to play for. Oh I didn't even realize that. Yeah they did not move that game to the four twenty which being in Kansas needs a city and a West West Coast team coming there that makes sense for that to be a four twenty five kickoff anyway but by doing that that means the Houston. Texans whoa no either at or close by idea of what's going on in that game and by kickoff and who knows it might even be done by them with it being four twenty five even up four zero five and they can make the decision accordingly. Now they won't have it in time to make the decision for their inactive. 's right but as of right now head coach Bill O'Brien and says that he's playing. He's playing to win. He's telling everybody that was yesterday. He said that that was Monday. We'll see how he feels. Come Friday. We'll see how he feels come inactive if time but vegas doesn't believe him because they have Tennessee favored on the road by five points in Tennessee At home was only favored by three points and lost and lost. So that tells you right now that they are saying this is going to be you know that they think at some point. They're going to start writing their players. So my question was was that the NFL sticking it to the steelers and raiders or was that or with the NFL actually trying to be more fair since the steelers were going up against a team that had had their position locked. Is it fair for the for the titans to go up against the team. That has their position locked. I don't think that should be the case. When it's you're dealing strictly with seven weeks teen results so or the NFL l. just incompetent to realize how important that game was so I had a poll going there and vote? If you WANNA see so if you're having other numbers you WANNA see see. I WANNA see one win. I WANNA see one way. I would zero turnovers. Those were the two numbers out of break. This break the street right the street. Don't carry that through the off season. And what would be nice as if if you break the streak you might have a chance to not have to carry you know that it would be something that carries over because you could be playing another game. It would be fantastic for the steelers to for whoever can play quarterback for the steelers to be taking snaps in January. I'm up now that if anyone has any numbers or questions that they WANNA throw out. Start Looking at the live chat I did see. I don't know it's actually from WHO several people say. Hey why not give Paxton Lynch shots. There are several reasons why you don't do that one because if you win this game you have a chance to be in the playoffs. You really want to go and do do that this week. That's one too. If you listen to coach Tomlin press conference today actually have an article that I'm doing. That'll be out tomorrow about it. where he talked about Paxton Lynch he saying he's been the third guy to sum the third guy all season? They don't really know that much he hasn't really done hardly anything with them so they don't they know where he was drafted they news pedigree but when it it comes to actually they're familiar with him and its military with the steelers even though he's been on the active roster since week six. They say they're not all that familiar with him. Because it it was always duck and root off getting all the snaps so all of a sudden like hey. Let's see what he's got. Well guess what you let people what fans don't realize he hasn't. They had a chance to do. Hardly anything in practice. So and and part of the reason that even though he's a first draft pick he they had issues issues his biggest issue a lot of people said why he didn't. It was his his lack of game knowledge and game preparation so I don't know that that's that's right. So he was the first round pick. Let's see what he's got look he. He may have been a first round pick but you know however many weeks sin for us. He was sitting at home that we could sign them to our practice squad that says a lot exactly and put it into why the steelers chose him as is their quarterback because he was practice squad eligible and that's where they were putting him to start reading 'til Rudolph had a concussion. They wanted someone that they could go. Put on the practice squad. God so imagine that a first round draft pick quarterback still had practice squad eligibility. Hey I'm Jason Delray. I recently wrapped up a land of the giants. The rise of Amazon. In this podcast we examined. How Jeff bezos turned a small online bookseller into one of the most powerful powerful companies in the world? We start by exploring how Amazon prime became a service with over one hundred million members and the main source of the company's power. I mean I think think. That's kind of what Amazon's banking on right that. You're just so locked in that you're going to go to any other sites. 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So yikes yeah because of people rather reports the steelers actually contacted the XFL about if they could actually sign Landry Jones instead of Paxton Lynch and the XFL said No. They said no to other quarterbacks because they felt that that's what doomed the AF because they lost some quarterbacks f Lawson better quarterbacks to the NFL late in the season that needed to Ask guys for injury and then the NFL release them back so they didn't trust them to give it to get him back so they said no and I don't blame them. They're trying to do that so we do. have if we do have super chat here two dollars from our good buddy snowman. He's he's chimes in about every show that we got he says does duck have a short leash this week. No he does not have a short leashes. We can no right because if he has a short leash you're gonNA pull him out there Paxton electioneer. No Yeah I mean that's good now now for those of you that I don't know the steelers did sign a third quarterback to the practice squad squad they signed J. T. Barrett was who they signed to the practice squad today former Ohio state quarterback. But what's interesting about that. It is his he signed it to to to the practice squad because they need a quarterback or was that doing like like what they did with the Ravens before where they wanted a more mobile agile quarterback to run the scout team to to this time I guess imitate eight. Rg Three so that might have been why he was the choice there but just thought I'd at least throw that out there that that was that was made so all right. Let's see if we got anything else. What's going on here anything? Stand out you. Have you been looking at chat. I have not been seeing much going for numbers of any any sort You I don't know what I love about the live chat. This is why I'm on the live chat for almost every show that we do when I'm not even on the show is I just love the conversation and I love that even the worm conversation ear you. You only live chat or having a conversation there if you've never caught one of the shows live that's the best part of it you know. There's Times I watched the show live. And how the the comment. I'm just listed. I'm just watching the comments as they go so once again here. It is Christmas Eve. It's in the afternoon it's about quarter after four and here you all are spending some time with your steeler family okay snowman. He really wants to take questions. Another two dollars into the tip jar even if duck throws two or three picks if doctors were three picks. Okay put it this way. Snowman if we pull Devon Hodges is out of this game thrown up the white flag that's basically what we're doing white flag thrown up it's done. It's over Tom. So if Thurs two or three picks and we pull him were waving the white flag. I'm going to agree with you about sixty percent and I'm GonNa say it depends on the nature of the picks if they're two picks like the two picks last week where those were too bad for os that should have been picked completely agree if it's another one of these throws lake. Thank through Dante moncrieff hands. That should have been caught for a first down and instead goes into the hand of a defender. While I'm not even counting you said Dante Moncrieff incre- I did say Dante. How Dante Bunker back in at the end of the season? Wow got to put their efforts out out there. That was a safe reference because the last thing you WanNa do is jinx any player. That's currently on the steelers. They're going to do it. So why don't you someone possibly there. There's no way that could happen to them for the steelers this week. So that's the thing so I think it will depend on. I don't want to. I'm not going to set a number and I. I don't think they had a set number for for duck last week. It's I still find it. Ironic that when he was pulled from game one of his passes hit the ground. They were all complete eight. The question was where they completed the steelers. Were they complete to the jets. Yeah God so. That's that's what happened. And and and honestly it's because they had Rudolph ready to go and I felt like there was reports about rude of getting more playing time in preparation Going into the jets. That's just in case. And maybe they really liked what they saw and thought he was ready to bounce back. And that's that's what they're ready to go with it based on the comments today from coach Tom. I don't think they're really wanting to have to Paxton Lynch because they the lack of familiarity could he he come out practice at this week. Their first practices on Christmas Day. So could he come out of practice and just tear it up absolutely absolutely I think the length of the leash for duck cogitate has everything to do with the week of practice of Paxton much. Yeah what do you think I could buy that. Because they're going to actually have to try to have Paxton Lynch ready as the backup if he has a good week. You're right so okay. What are you laughing at? I loved it. MONCRIEFF is on the island. Live missing is not going to save him so yeah so oh well I'll be honest with you and another thing that could dictate. This is the score. But I'm I still believe in the steelers defense that this game will never be out of hand. I mean think about it. What's the only only game that the steelers played all season where the game was out of hand the very first game week one in New England? That's so we were we. Were you know you think about it. You think about the first time we played the ravens in Pittsburgh facing their regular offense. And we're right in that game so maybe acts Vegas has thought in making favorites in this game was aww defense. Did against you know everybody on the Ravens offense earlier in the season foresee him backups. Baby maybe we're there so yeah the ravens have really been under one hundred and fifty yards rushing three times this season and one of them was against the steelers I'm trying to think what the other two are the other ones against the bills and then the last one was a pretty sure it was. I think it might have been like one of these crazy games. They didn't need her that they just didn't run. The Boston was might be the bengals. I can't remember on. It's not that important so it it just. There's a lot going into this but yeah that's the thing that steelers defense I mean. They haven't lost by more than a score since They haven't lost more by more than score in the AM and am saints for after Minka once. They made that trait from into fitzpatrick. It's Patrick they've been in every game because of their defense so that's just how it just how it goes. It's just how it goes but you know what it's Christmas Eve I got. We've we've been on here. We've been going for good sixty minute. You guys have been great the live chat chats. But you know what it's time for us to cut you guys off because we all probably need to be spending some more time with our families the before we go got a couple questions for a big Bro. Are you ready with score for this. GonNa put it out there and if other people want to throw in the live chat real quick we can do that real quick quick. Throw my not read them all. But I'll at least bring them up on the screen. Seventeen eighteen fourteen ravens. Seventeen fourteen. Okay I'm sticking with the same. Our defenses going to hold a seventeen or offense can't put up enough points point. Yep I I'm I'M NOT GONNA give mine until till Thursday but as really making me think I think we've got some nice to see somebody upstairs agreed with as we've got stuff like sixteen ten steelers we've got sixteen ten rat birds we've got twenty four twenty one steelers. I'll be honest with you. Actually would. That wouldn't surprise me me as well. I'm just my prediction based off of what I've seen the past two games. Yup We've got another sixteen ten steelers twenty eight ten Ravens Lindsay Frank. Yeah no way but whatever. Yeah one thing that George says Minka hasn't done anything in weeks now Yes he does. He's he is commanded the back end of that defense to where they just don't look lost at times like they did last season or the first two games this season. That's one of the biggest things is. Patrick brings to this team. Is it necessarily him. Making the big game changing plays but making sure that things are short up most of the time. There's not think about it. What killed US dealers last year constant breakdowns in the second? Yep I mean I'm not saying they never have a breakdown but I mean think about. It's been drastically less. So that's what that's what makes has been doing. And can we have a twenty two fourteen steelers. We've got a seventeen to ten steelers lers. We've got a open script on me again. Let's see if I go back and find areo seventeen. Thirteen Ravens. Sixteen sixteen to ten steelers nine to six that he would say what team but honestly that's a score that would not surprise me at five three. I missed the five to three. We've got three. We've got a twenty seven seven ravens. I'm obviously the Ravens Score. Fourteen the Ravens get the fourteen points. I'm going to be scared that the steelers can't match that Fourteen to ten steelers Twenty one seventeen there. There's a lot more I'm not gonna be able to bring them out a lot because we are getting here towards the end. Some people don't WanNa Hear Mall we've got a twelve to nine steelers lers. We've got another seventeen ten but I just want to thank you all so much for tuning in here on Christmas Eve. It's been a really fun show. It's been nice to spend some time with my brother while you guys listen up I I will not exactly sure how this is GonNa work. I'm going to tell you this. I want to tell you this that once the regular season is over the way that we do our podcast might be changed a little bit here behind the curtain. But they're not going away away. If anything there might even be a little bit more. Just we're going to tweak and some stuff with the schedule that's part of the reason. Why Jeff did a second podcast last night after the the steelers hangover? We're looking at some different things now. Here's the thing we are might not be bringing my brother on steeler Stat Geek in the off season if we still have a steeler dealers stagich in the off season. That's one of the things we gotta talk about. Because if I'm bringing my brother on it might be that we're going to do our whole new show. That's the two of us so we're not sure exactly how we're doing some things up in air but we're not going away so if you ever tune into by God what happened. This is some things that we're trying to figure out so we'll be back next week on New Year's Eve Even if it's just me because I don't know what your schedule is yet Back probably available. I'll I'll be back and we'll be back next Tuesday. It might be another earlier show in the day because it being new years eve. We'll talk about the previous game. Boy would it be nice to be talking about the next game coming Sherwood Fingers crossed I. You know what I don't have a lot of hope. I'm not going to be disappointed because I'm setting myself up for it not happening. Because that's just how I. That's just how I feel with this team this year last year I hit dependent on somebody else to make things happen for us. Exactly exactly I like to be in control. I still remember that game or the steelers were playing in Cleveland and all of a sudden everyone starts cheering in the stands. And they're looking around and that's because the the other I think it was was it the bills and the jets last are you talking about. That wasn't last year. This was seven hundred. Okay so that that that. I think I think the bills I think there was. What was that one? It's Patrick was planned for the bills. Maybe I can't remember the jets the jets or something like that. It might have been the other way round the jets and they needed to beat the bills. I can't remember but it was one of those great times week. Seventeen steelers were at Cleveland and also another steeler fan started cheering in the stands. And they're looking around like what happened and that's when they let them know that the other game that they needed to happen happened and the steelers made it in. And that's just kind of that's I'd I'd love to see that but I have all the confidence in the world and our defense. I just need to see some some Some more from the offense and like like I said it takes the players and good play game plan with a good coach and I don't know that I trust any of them right now. So but we're still GONNA come back. We'll be here we are also going going to Ha- still have a lineup of our podcast. Not exactly sure when or what it will be called but I know Jeff Jeff Hartmann is going to at least do a show by himself if not With Lance Williams tomorrow it might be fireside chat with Jeff on Christmas Day. I don't know We will be back for the steelers preview. Thursday we'll be rolling through with Lance. Yeah I said it on Friday. I pretty sure that still on schedule. Then burning question on Saturday. Don't you know who's who's up this time. That's post Christmas. So that's hard to think about and then we'll be back for the for the post game show which will be well four twenty five games. Aren't that bad. They won't be super late at night. So anything you want to say before we head out hero no other than you caught me with that yes actually. He's a chip off your block. You thought fireside Chats Asquith Jefferson with Jefferson. Hardman this person Harbin coming at you. I'm sorry with these new Mike. I just can't help it so anything else. Just come on go steelers. Whatever happens with plants happens? Let's go out with a win. Exactly what we're the wind and wherever the chips fall they fall. But let's win this game. Yes do your part and then you see what happens I like it. That's a great way to say in what you ought to have a merry Christmas happy holidays. And in the words of our friend Lance Williams tune-in tele friend and subscribe. We'll see you next time.

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#77: Anarchy in the NRK Week of February 17, 2020

The EuroWhat? A Eurovision Podcast

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#77: Anarchy in the NRK Week of February 17, 2020

"Hello and welcome to the euro. What episode number seventy? Seven Week of February seventeenth twenty twenty. I'm calm an join today by Bensman. Hey Ben Mike. We are a pair of Americans Chinese Sense Eurovision Song Contest. This week. We'll be talking about online. Voting is a sham. It is a scam. It's a fraud I am just. I'm just so much residual anger and I don't know if that was a holiday weekend here. It was a mess. Wasn't this Mess such glorious mess and much like With nrk totally unforeseeable even though it was completely foreseeable a just absolutely should have backup plans for. Dhaka plants the backup plans But we will get into that shortly later. Yeah I was thinking when we were putting the episode together. It's like should we do this? Chronologically or an order of what will get us riled up but then I looked at it and it's like oh it's the same order sets exact. Same Yes so. It was a not quite as super but still pretty crowded. Saturday still. Yeah it's still a very busy Saturday. I think I had the first time I was double screening things just because things were happening live In a way that would not be immediately recorded afterwards for me to go back so those fun once you learn how to do all of the TAB swamping and getting it on your phone and then on your chrome cast it. It really becomes very mad scientist E so I have friends. I promise First chronologically roughly was Armenia they brought back a deputy of Zil of which was their national final selection process and yet After just a single round of performances of the winner of that process was Athena Manoukian with the song chains on you of course automobile and at the is a Greek Armenian singer. She attempted to represent Greece in the junior eurovision Two Thousand Eight placed seventh in that contest Since then she won the Twenty Fifteen Armenian Pulse Award for best English Song of her track. Exo And yet just kind of Plugging away at the music industry and Her performance was really well received by the Armenian jury She got twelve's from nine out of ten jury members. Telo not as decisive She came in third about twenty seven hundred votes behind Vladimir Arzumanyan. Ben Did you get a chance to listen to the song or watch the performance I did. I've watched it a couple times now. I like that. We're getting kind of a trap pop influence at Eurovision this year From from listening to this the song itself feels kind of basic. It doesn't stick with me. Yeah it kind of reminded me of the sort of spoken parts in Ariana Grande as seven rings. Okay yeah just in terms of like the Self Call and Response Structure of it if that makes sense but it was kind of a weird national final selection thing. A lot of the songs were very meandering and just kind of started and then stopped Th this one of the few performances that had like a clearer stage idea and seemed more pop oriented but yeah I kind of agree that it felt very basic in its initial presentation. And it's it's really repetitive. Yes it has. It has like three different phases of the song and cycle through them a few times each and then it's done right right and and I don't think it was helped by the really weird sound mix. I'm not yeah. That was a problem across the board for the performances. Where everything just felt very thin and slick everything's going to get swallowed up in an arena. And hopefully that'll just be fixed with like the sound mix in the arena and hopefully a better staging or your staging fuller staging is. Yeah yeah but I don't think this is a bad choice for Armenia. Like it's it's different from what they sent last year Which I thought was a good performance but it didn't seem to resonate with the audience St. Do you think this is something? That's going to resonate a little bit better. I have no clue because like trap tends to be outside. My normal listing rain. Although it's doing decently on the charts in the United States yeah I don't know how that translates globally. Like this could be perfectly of the moment in the right spot. And I think the fact that's in semifinal two which is a little less tax is probably in its favour forgetting to the final yes. It just doesn't grab me like some of the other stuff that's been released if our hats. Okay Yeah I guess it is still early. I'd kind of like to hear what it sounds like live in a different contexts. Like maybe your vision in concert and see how how that performance works particularly if it's not relying so much on the dancers and the throne and the staging aspect of it just like singing it as a song. I'm glad that Armenia brought back some form of public selection to their process. Because I missed that last year. So Yeah I think I think. They tried to internal selection. That didn't work okay. Let's go back to the public selection and see if that helps turn things around speaking of switching up your selection process a little bit and getting better results hopefully Lithuania had the final. And that was. It's been super exciting to see everybody seemingly get Superintendent. Lithuanian process this year And like even personally just going from someone who's like ha ha it's a marathon. It's sixteen weeks. They pick like the blandest thing Like this year they had such a great lineup for the final. I'm having a difficult time thinking of another final where I was this excited about. Not Not just about the final itself but just like the individual components in the final. It really felt like a journey for all of these people like Oh. I'm so glad that everybody seems to have a cheering. Section behind them and Yeah like this. This was such a satisfying conclusion to such a satisfying process. Yeah it was a satisfying the correct word. It was also kind of super exciting to see people continuing to kind of push their staging ideas and the okay. This worked last time. This didn't work last time. I think there are a few things that Kinda changed things a little bit too much at the end like I think that had Cairo has gone back to the pink jumpsuits. There was like one too many ideas going on in the final version of of alligator. I can see that. Yeah I mean I did. Miss the The choreography from it were doing the complicated standing up maneuver where it's like leaning back to On the feet of the one dancer and grabbing the hand of the other dancer I thought that was just a really well executed. Move in the semi-finals but I can also understand needing to change it up since it was a bigger venue and it was a bigger venue. Yeah the unseen. How the various acts kind of worked with that was nice like it was just nice to see the confidence from everybody. Yeah songs yearly So the winter By a landslide was the Rupe in on fire reading high a televised portion of things. Thirty four thousand five hundred eighty five votes went to the Rupe Everybody else cumulatively got twenty six thousand seventy five. The roof got fifty seven percent of the vote. That is so crazy. That total is the largest number of tele votes received by a single act in the national selection since two thousand six. Oh wait was that the same year as the. We are the winners of Eurovision. I do not know. I think I can look that up. I think that might be the case. And if so that is a fantastic legacy to remain. Let's that's just great And then so one thing that I know you were kind of joking about on twitter back when we thought that the jury had it in the bag for I e stay Was Oh great. There's more jury But no like they won an expanded jury easily easily easily easily and I was so shocked to see that when the numbers came up at the end I was to the overall standings. I felt were correct. I'm glad that the group one I think they are legitimate. Contenders here Yep Monique Finished second in the jury in the telephone and say okay good like because she was one of the early ones that I thought Oh this. This one has bones and The Monica Maria finished third of with the overall and third jury forthwith Tele Vote And then I thought that that was very subtly done as well I would have been pleased with that at the end and winning. Yeah then I was. Delightfully surprised to see that. Ruta loop took fourth place agreed. Yeah came in fourth with the jury Anti-drug with a safe for fifth in the televised And I was very surprised that drip ended up beating a unbreakable by a single point with the jury that just felt so correct and then the other part of the final that I really enjoyed the postcards leading into the performances were so well done like everybody got to really show off their personalities and the concept behind the postcards was it it was Each of the acts getting ready to go onto the stage and yeah I think everybody had creative control over how they wanted to present that. And Yeah just. It was very consistent with each person's brand and I really appreciated that so I I really like those well excellent job. Lithuania very excited to see what happens in Rotterdam for them like they was now. Yeah yeah in terms of processes that went off the rails so spectacularly Norway what but wow Norway had their melody Grand Prix like Grand Final The ten acts that advanced from the semifinals and from the auto selection all performed in the live show and it looks like there's a pretty cool I show. I mean it was a huge stadium giant audience and like expanded stage. Yeah one thing that I liked about this is that it felt like a lot of the staging issues. We had noted with things along the way had gotten resolved or at least maybe it was just like a bigger space where people started thinking things. 'cause I thought in particular Deedrick an email. Yes that was a much improved performance of that. It's still Kinda felt like the memorial concert for the third member of Boy Band. Like something like the entire. I'm like this needs a third brother. Yes yeah I think that that was where it felt more like a boy band song. Then yeah it got better della. They removed like the identical suits in the children. For some reason. It's like a third brother. Yeah but Yeah so they go through all the performances. They opened up the voting and this year they had it all online voting and they did not test for Server Slam which just me as a software engineer anytime I hear we're doing online voting just like just tense up and I get so afraid. Yep and they were not prepared which is from the software engineering standpoint. Yes I understand that you can't prepare for everything at the same time. There have been technical issues every single week of this process and a lot of it having to do with servers slam and the livestream so this should not have been a surprise. And you know this is an issue. Yeah and there weren't. Stopgap measures in place is just really kind of baffling to me. Also like they. They've been highlighting notable moments in in Mvp history every single week And the one that they highlighted week one that I found hilarious in the context of Saturday was weak one. They talked about the time that there were so many calls into the the. I did that that it broke okay and we were. We were all laughing then. But who's laughing now badges so yeah. I was switching back and forth from Norway to all the other things that were happening. 'cause yeah as you might have guessed as each week went by kind of over. Norway this year but like it's the results and they have like all ten acts out on stage and they're announcing a WHO advances and the four acts advance are a Rega- rally which okay that would make sense. I wanted to hear that we did have the most streams going into it. Yeah Yeah Liza Which I come nearly produced. Yeah but also kind of controversial because of the whole not gave songs called. I am gay and then Christian. Yeah instead of like instead of like rain. Alexander who I think was heavily favored for at least the final four. Yeah it was just like I very surprised by these results and this is before we knew what had happened. Yeah so it turns out the since the Tele vote was well. The online vote rather was not usable. They went to their plan. B which was to go to a demographic panel which had convened on Friday night and it was like thirty or so people who voted on their favorites based on the studio tracks. Which what that. Yeah I you're you're telling me that there wasn't like a like you should be watching the live performance. That's an important component of this. Yeah yeah or failing that all of these songs were performed on television on this show. You could've together a super cut in the running order of the live show and based on those performances instead. A song like bringing Alexander's where it's not a great song but the performance elevated it and that's kind of the point of your vision and Yeah Yeah and if you're just basing it off of these studio tracks it's like wow that is just so pointless and Yeah Yeah. And a number of the artists who were participating on social media were expressing their extreme disappointment in the way that this was handled and rightly so and like honestly. Yeah like I would be super pissed if the backup plan wasn't reviewing the full performance was just reviewing the slog. Yeah and I mean with like Beulah Dietrich that Wanna be kind of weird because like their performance had changed so much from the first time that we saw it performed but like everybody else it was more or less the same maybe a couple of extra dancers here different cameras choice there but basing it off of the audio is just so not Eurovision and and yeah There was a video of a cuvee responding to the news where she's just talking about like. I'm really disappointed. Particularly for the by dancers who worked incredibly hard on this and none of it mattered because she was one of the auto qualifiers. So there's no feedback. Mechanisms say Oh do I have an audience for for this like were linked to this and yeah and like looking at the results like the top four. Only one of those pre-qualifiers. Yeah made the final four. Yeah so I don't know it's just such a mess. And then it goes into another round of voting this time which thankfully was working but is like did they did. They announce how the like did they use dueled again for the second round so for this So once they cut it down to four it was it just went to another round of voting on those four Axe only And then the two with the most votes after that round had another dual so came down to a reggae and kristen which again just like That's a surprising outcome. But I guess of those four choices. The curly wrecked too. I don't like you had to pick from that group for that would probably be the two. I'd pack. Yeah yeah although. I'm still kind of surprised it wasn't really UK but short us. Yeah sure I guess at this point yeah. So then they had They had the vote. And then maybe. I shouldn't be surprised because Kristen was leading going into the they had it broken down to the five regions of Norway and after four regions. Kristen had what seemed like an insurmountable lead and then a stormed the was at the central version or the wet the central division of the West Division that that partisan matter but Yeah it just was overwhelming Support for attention so attention will be the one going to your vision. And I think that's the thing that's the most annoying part about this. I think that is the correct choice. Forgot that we got to the correct place but unlike the most stressful manner. Yeah Yeah 'cause like the most embarrassing manner Oh yeah totally and like Washington origin final. After the fact on my in in my case because I was watching a couple of other things what it reminded me most closely of my sister's a fashion designer And it reminded me of going to see her her student show because there were a lot of acts were at felt like they hadn't quite where they had done the assignment but hadn't necessarily thought of some of the larger outcome of of yes. I'm going on the Eurovision And there were a handful where it's like okay. They understand the assignment. They understand like the larger picture and like I think it was probably of just thinking through like Rica head like the full package like the first time. She performed that at the final. Yes this needs like a few maybe like a few tweaks arena sparks at this point But other than that is like ready to go has thought the assignments. Yeah and is the choice. I think the worst part about this is Yano Lassana was there Partly because Blade Norway's his home and that's it was it was his homecoming and Yeah just have this be part of that presentation like oh how how embarrassing for you like welcome back fund we need you so bad yes of man but something tells me we will not be doing the same process next year. I hope not you know. I really damaged doorways brand. And Yeah like mgp probably needs a rethink like. I wouldn't mind them doing doing a smaller. Round of semifinals. I think the the concept of that was good. But I think overall this was just such a kerfuffle. Yeah yeah to so many avoidable problems and they need to really reconsider the tech aspects of this. Yeah for next year because man. Oh man what a mess. Yeah just like instead of like an online vote just like paper ballots optical scanners for everyone in your local polling place and we will deliver the results in like twenty four hours. Yes yes AMAC imagine. Was Sweden any better this week? This is a great week to prioritize Norway Sweden. Mostly I was seeing the tweets on Saturday. And everybody's just like Norway's the complete tire fire And like I was like Whoa. It's it's their final. They're picking one thing. I can go back to Sweden later. And we'll be fine and I went back to Sweden later and it was fine. Okay good one thing. That was Kinda cool about this round. Is that Just based on the seven entries this week. Something that was in Swedish was guaranteed to get through to at least the Andre Johnson. Brown right there were there. Were like four or five entries that were mostly in Swedish and I had to sort of loose pex going. I'm stopping myself from reading the lyrics when they're released every week because it's never good. Okay just reading the lyrics pop. Someone you haven't heard is never is never good. I attack I've stopped listening to the thirty second snippets. Just I can go in and be surprised. Okay just looking at the lineup for this era. Like okay If I had to guess I guess Mario go through to the final and prime ahome be just because they've been there they do good work. Yes that that that was absolutely correct. Marietta's through the final which this isn't my favorite song of hers. I think both of her last two entries she's had it hasn't been stronger okay. But it's great to see her there. home be. I think he's he borrowed like Armenia staging from a couple years ago when they had their garage sale but the song is fine. It's it's not my favorite at this point but it was a good one to go through for this week again. This was this felt like a good week to just sort of not prioritized Sweden in what's going on to undershot sin Drunk Garner Which appears to be this year is dance band entry okay. That was an interesting one because the song feels very Irish like specifically like the cut Ireland pavilion. Okay this would be playing at the pub there and it was really weird because it was in Swedish it was just a just a bunch of cognitive dissonance. All right watching as an American And then honest on domino who has last year and so I had mentally been thinking that the in the entry last year on eastern Domina was the singer and not the rapper and I was surprised. It was the rapper. And that's me. That's that's on me for not googling But anyways I I thought that that song price you come in faith And Faith Cambo. Shoulda gone through because I thought her son was stronger and was more interesting. Honest on demining song was fun. And that's that's an important quality. I think yeah. I'm not sure I see you getting to the final okay. We have another semi final this week than we have undergone and then we have the final. So much wow. That's that's real quick looking ahead to this week. The big names I think from this batch. Victor Crown who was Estonia's entry last year Anna firm Is currently up there with the bookies along with all the other ladies for for her song brave and she had the duet last year That I thought could have done numbers but didn't right and then another one. That's intriguing me and I'm just not sure if it's actual intrigue just fear is. There's a song called Carpool Karaoke Yeah and I like I retire of James Corden here. Yeah don't reference them in the Song Sweden I mean I reassure that Nanna Greenville is late a Swedish alias of his. You know what I should have anagram this before. I think we're clear I probably would have mentioned it anyways. Thanks to look forward to in Sweden this weekend. The reason wasn't prioritizing Sweden is that Lithuania was happening. Iceland with also happening that was double screening Was With Elena was super exciting. This year Iceland is also. I was a little thrown up by last week. 'cause like it was mostly pop stuff like a couple outliers. Outliers went through which Pleased me even. If one of the outliers wasn't my thing this week Felt like a bunch of outliers. Like a few pop. Things didn't go through all right this week and last week. I've had like a feeling of like okay. This is about the time of year. Where like I find a national final act and get way too obsessed with it because it's still national final season we don't have is going to go through Ray. I was like. It's really weird that that hasn't happened this year. Maybe just maybe it's an off year maybe weird batch and then it happens. It happened as soon as they were doing like the camera. Shots of the bureau footage of like. Here's the artists that are performing this week. DAFFY DUCK. The moth needs Swivel and like hair swoop was on point. It's like in the first three minutes of the program like I searched Jiffy Looking for looking for something just to have that. It's not there and I don't know how to make it with the roof player But it was just majestic and then the song started and the song is amazing like the song is exactly what I want out of. Nice landik entry it is the type of Pop Chanaka. That is my bread and butter. The only way I can describe the song it's as though a no knee of of Anthony Johnson's was singing over a beat. That was threatening at any moment to become Gloria Stefan and the Miami sound machine's Conga. Okay but it works. It works and there is just group. Choreography. And everybody's wearing jumpsuit. Took their face in like eight. Bit pixelated on it and it's just delightful and it's so out there and I wanted to win so badly and I'm very afraid it won't he was in the running. Twenty seventeen wins follows paper wine and it was a very close final and like the crowd was going crazy. Yeah Yeah and it was just such a fun performance particularly with the. What's that intendo switch like cardboard box? Yeah Yeah Yeah. It looked like the instruments were kind of of that style and then like so versatile in like Oh. It's like a Saxophone Guitar. Who's he what's IT'S? I don't know it's a saxophone Qatari. The Saxophone Antar Drum machine. Yeah yes there was a moment like. Oh everybody's moving to the left and then there was a second microphone waiting for everybody and I was just like yes. This has my full heart. Apologies to everyone. Also I have found out that I missed both of their sets at Iceland. Airways last year so I'm already retroactively mad at myself. I'm at like the whole hog point. I was when we first saw Tari last year. Which is like this part of me now is like if if they win like I am. I would absolutely make a sweatshirt nice. I would absolutely make a sweatshirt to bring the arena. Excellent anyways enough talking about that because we can talk about them again in two weeks now. But I'm I have added all of their stuff to my spotify. We're at full down the rabbit Hole Atari all again status. I'm so happy that it's finally happened because again I've been waiting to figure out which act this year is one way to into It's that one. It's still early like we still got. We got all of the Balkans so yeah the other entry. That went through was a phase of the internet or at least when I was looking at tweets to see who people were excited about in the song kept in lineup. 'cause I went in blind which I think is partially why I was so delighted and the other but Oklahoma dairy is also through. I get why the Internet is into it like it's different. It's not your standard pop song for lack of a better. Game of Thrones E. Okay like like it's got like a weird kind of almost Gregorian chant coral aspect to it and the I can see having a lot of drama But the actual performance kind of needed asja needed like something else because they were doing a lot But the the singer of this song is just kinda standing there for the full three minutes and and they're not quite doing enough with the camera and stuff around them to to kind of balance that out. Because it's fine if you're fine if you don't have a ton of stage presence and you just want to sing the song ray but again. I see why the Internet likes it. Also please just send the Weird in Detroit. Mika thing I think with Iceland. There's a very good shot of that happening. So child that happening and it would be such a nice balance of us like a third viral dance. Move 'cause like we already have. The Samantha teeny like hands at the hips. And I'm a little teapot for lack of a better word. Yeah We have the Rupe dance which Lithuania is already on the branding for that. They have a video online. Like that's going back to like them potentially taking it bracken's that's why they're they are building the ground movement now. Yeah if if your vision just turns into one giant dance battle. I am So excited for that to happen but yeah like unlike the Iceland moves like those feel very very simple does feel like something that the crowd is going to like. Yeah Yeah it's just like kick ball change to laugh kick ball change the right. Yeah exactly anyway. So those are the two entries going through this week. And then the producers I think they just always pick a wild card from what else didn't go through and I figured it's GonNa be something from week one because I thought that all three of the entries that didn't go through had their own charms This week the other stuff. There were a couple of different ballads. One of which I really liked the dreamer. I think it was Mattie Matt which he had a decent ballad I thought was Candidate I thought anything from week one could have been. That didn't go through already. Been a candidate but no it was like a pop song from this week Echo And like it felt like oh it felt like a fully rely. Reforms didn't it doesn't excite me as much as some of the other stuff. Iceland has in the mix. Well maybe they just wanted to have some contrast to maybe what else is in the field. That could be some good diversity. I could see that working. Yeah anyways everything has a couple of weeks to Kinda figure out their their new performances in the final be February. Twenty ninth at the Health. Holon so be. It will be a bigger venue. That was a very full Saturday. Yeah and there were still some other songs at trickled out since then on Sunday France released their song for Tom. Lieb it is the song the best in me your breath you you you are in me and as you might Have Guests It's a Thomas Jason John Lund Vic love child for lack of description and don't discount the other co writer. It's the team that wrote euphoria plus John Ludvik and it sounds like it. Yeah Well I don't know I don't find you for you to be this boring. I draw is not one of them. It grows on me every time I listen to it which I think is good all right but also but yeah like also like the first thing I heard of it was win like the thirty seconds leaked three seconds. That leapt were all in English. I was like Oh. That's a bold move for France. Yeah thankfully there is some French and their allies. This song is it's fine it is. It's very simple like when. I hear the song I have two. I have two different trains of thought and they kind of go together. Which is one. This absolutely sounds like a song John Lund vic roped To the point like I would like to hear him sing it instead. He's very good right writing songs for his voice and I feel like whenever he's written songs for the Big Five. It sounds like songs that he should be thinking instead. Yeah it's just to me this one. It just seems like he's just kind of at the piano playing around with staff and got this idea and like it's still just stating and like it just doesn't go anywhere for me. It doesn't go anywhere. And like just lyrically and biologically sounds like it should be. It should be sound tracking the Zales. Mother's Day Sale Jewelry. Add Yeah maybe the best in me. Happy Mother's Day. See I was thinking like a folger's commercial like the one where like the kid comes to visit his parents or something but yeah there is. There is the commercial appeal but yet it is much more in the jingle aspect that yet. It's a very gingerly and just like structurally feels like thinking a thing in French. Singing the same thing but an English Hanging in French singing the same thing but in English and three minutes is up. I thought that the premier they gave it was very impressive and very lovely and just like all of those cool drone shots Yeah it was. It was really well shot for me. It's like Tommy. He'd does write songs so I was kind of hoping that he would be involved in the songwriting and steady. It's just like oh well no. They picked the song and then like found someone who Zinger would match. I don't know why France would do that though. Because if you look at the scoreboards from like the last couple years The songs that win are written by the artist. Yeah the songs that do. Well are songs that are written by the artist and the songs that are a an a weird marriage of of a song that was pre written and singer that you hope a work for it finish near the bottom. I don't know if like France has a long game plan. Like if they just don't really want it this year but still they need to bring a bottle of wine to the party but they're not gonNA bring their best bottle of wine but they should bring something nicer than like two buck. Chuck you know so but I yeah. It's it's nice and again it's been growing on me but on the other hand by the end of the scale this is this is fine. Yeah Yeah but and maybe maybe. That's the secret sauce. Maybe it's like it's February now this time in. May We may be all Gaga for it. I don't think that's going to be the case but it may be better received than it is initially good luck France. Yeah I was about to try and do an awkward segue about french-speaking nations because Belgium announced their song today. Well they released the song as official video today yesterday. They were hinting at the title and they confirmed for us that the first word was seven letters and the second word was two letters which me being someone who regularly runs into things during puzzles where I need specific patterns of Worries. I knew exactly what what tool to turn to turn to. One look which is great because you can essentially give it that pattern and go okay. Sort sort phrases by communists and let me know What my options are for what this might be titled Amongst the options. I thought were more intriguing than just things. Like like bottoms. Up Bottoms up would have worked. Wow that's a title cook. Yeah it's fun it can be drinking other things But no other other things in the list Reality TV and I'm just doing that. It was hoover phonic and I'm like WHO WERE FAUNA. Crowley has opinions about reality. Tv Vatican two they might have had opinions about that Vitamin B. One. That could have been really into that song. It's having a moment this year. I think you create one of Ukraine's finalists a references. We know the vitamin B twelve. Sorry I'm not joking so anyways. Lots of options available. What it was like I was very the second word was going to be up But as it turns out I'm incorrect. Because release me was released today. Only job was gone. What did you think of this when Mike? I think this is one that I'm going to have to sit with for a little bit okay. I think it's a good choice for Belgium in the sense that since these are experienced performers. They won't have the deer in the headlights issue that they've had the last few years with their performers who are a little bit newer to the stage. That was much of a problem with senators but Yeah Elliot and Blanche did seem kind of terrified of once it got started on their respective. Your vision stages so. I don't think that's going to be a problem. I still think the song is kind of Belgium's melancholy brand I. Belgium has definitely had like a vibe in the last few years and this entirely in line with that vibe. Yeah and it's something that I like. It kind of reminds me a little bit of this time. Last year I went to go see ten thousand maniacs ethnic city winery in Chicago and like it was a really nice concert and but it was like for a very specific age group and yeah it just seems kind of outside of the eurovision norm. So I'm kind of wondering like what the widespread appeal is going to be. It feels very college radio of the nineties and that is definitely my GM so like I don't object to that but like looking at the grand scheme of things like That's that's an interesting approach to take and I'm I'm curious to see how that plays out. What in Iraq like. I was trying to pin down like what it reminded me of. And there were a lot of different things like thinking about when we we who were funded with the Belgian artists last year. And we were talking about what their sound was like. And this feel like it's nice that Kinda ties in with I think probably the weather better known songs mad about you like I can hear a little bit of that in there. As Far Eurovision Melody Wise there are bits of it that remind me of Lena's taken by a stranger her song after she won. Yeah there's a smoothness there yeah And then also a little bit of. I think it's mostly just the strings rise like a Phoenix Like there's there's a feeling of it being a bond theme to me If that makes sense yeah I like part part of it might also be a vet like last week Billy shes bond theme got released gray and it kind of it. Kind of reminds me of that too. Okay the studio version is fine. Like one thing I would. Love is an I think probably needs to happen for. It is like in like the last thirty seconds. There's like this great bit where it feels like. You could really throw some vocal power behind it And I think like you I kinda WanNa sit sit with us one and see where I stand with it when we come back to these songs and later this spring. Yeah Yeah and I think overall with the way that the field has been shaping up for the most part where it's it feels like countries are trying to not send late Eurovision entries. They're trying to send songs. And which is good. Yeah and I think this is of the trying to send songs group. I don't know why resistant to it. Because I'm loving it from all of the other countries that are doing it and I think I was just expecting something different and then this didn't match up with with whatever that expectation was and I don't even know what that expectation was and so I was hoping we're struggling a little bit more on the UPTEMPO side of Hoover phonics. But I think that's just I think for whatever reason I want like an UPTEMPO Eurovision winner this year. Yeah Yeah like I think up tempo or mood but in like mood towards the party instead of move towards a. I just want to be with my of ocean this. Yeah we want to be like that is reminding me like another thing that this reminded me of lyrically. Just listening to the words like felt very in line with arcade like almost felt like a different perspective on arcade. Yes just like this is a different part of the the rash. Amman for Arcade but but yeah like a on like Belgium wants to do well like their neighbors are throwing a party They WANNA BRING. They want something. Nice yeah and I think this fits the bill. I'm not sure not sure. This is the special sauce that will that will win them thing right but if it gets them into the final which they haven't been able to do have recently They just want to like not embarrass themselves in front company. Yes yes so. I think they're okay but yeah this is. This is something we're all right. Let's see what the full field looks like? And how it compares but I don't hate it like I think that's where landing he does song but yeah it doesn't quite feel like the winner yet like you know. There's just that resonance that I want. So the last Major selection thing that happened this week. Romania announced who they're artists is going to be. It's going to be Roxanne She was featured on the track. You don't love me allow last summer. Which was a song that charted in Romania and Bulgaria and According to an article that I've read got some airplay in the US So cool her style tation needed yes and I tried to that citation and I could. Not so yeah. I don't know maybe it's just like one really cool kids college radio airplay in the US Seattle like as someone who is previously had online radio show That had the head. Listenership in the tens. Yes if that was just like okay so it's like someone played out a window. Yeah Yeah Hey that's all that's all it takes. It's that is the definition of broadcasting just like screaming it from the rooftops per siles kind of in the deep house realm again with the citations needed comparisons to to aletha which From what I've heard I'm not quite hearing that And then Billy Irish of which I am hearing in the couple of tracks that I've heard and we end like if you're citing those two. Those are very opposite ends of the pop spectrum. So that's a very interesting way to come to compare yourself. Yeah but if you're going to combine to I think LEEPA in a combination like I don't know I like them both Same but Yeah we will hear the songs that are going to be up for consideration and that the public actually going to vote on Those will be coming out on Friday So yeah some more music to look forward to also coming up this weekend. Portugal will begin their festival mccown. Sal It's pretty much the same process the used forever. It's sixteen songs. Total split between two semi finals so each Each semi-final will have eight songs and the songs that will advance to the semifinals. It'll be fifty percent regional. Juries and fifty percent tele votes Which will determine those finalists before from each semi final? So eight songs will be in the grand final and yeah. It's a pretty ECLECTIC FIELD. This year like they've really been stretching. Their musical tastes In this election process I found In the last couple of years just thinking about what they've sent the last couple of years. It's felt very broad in terms of style and Fourteen of the songs were selected by producer invitation. Uh so the festival. They invite composers to create entries and then the composers are responsible for finding the artists to perform the entries and pretty wide range there and then there was one song that was selected through a radio show called master class and then there was one that was just sort of an open submission call like if you had a song and you wanted it to be in the festival send it in and Yeah when one of those songs got through so that one that one should be he interesting process because as we all know. Portugal follows their own drum. Beat the full field is available on spotify right now. we've got a link to the playlist On our profile. So definitely check them out there. There's there's some bangers in there yeah also having this weekend. Slovenia is having their final which earlier in the year they had the AMA fresh competition which determines a couple of those acts And then there are twelve songs over also the two that were selected through Ama fresh and then ten selected from submissions. The got through at the live show a three member. Jury will pick two songs to move to the super final and in the public. Vote on those and that. That's an interesting way to do that. But Hey that's Lavinia and it seems to be working for them. They've had a pretty good qualifying record. The last few days have we are looking at the contestant lineup There are some notable names Sascha and prevent violet are the AMA fresh winners. Inmates competed last year. Tinker Kobuk represents Slovenia in two thousand fourteen Bozhidar Wolf Land Wolf with a backing singer. Back in Nineteen eighty-four for Yugoslavia. I remember those shows. Yeah I definitely don't go Slavia. I don't know anything else wolf. And then Lena cooed. Zovik finished third at junior eurovision in two thousand fifteen. I asked the same year that destiny was there so that could be an interesting reunion or friend. Yeah it's just going to be. The whole context is going to be rehashing of service just like just like a fun high school reunion but for junior eurovision two thousand fifteen. Oh man does this mean we're GONNA have to start watching your vision so that will know what your vision three years from now is. GonNa look like or I choose to be surprised. I like that strategy so Yeah I'm I am looking forward to the Slovenian final. Also looking forward to Ukraine's final of will be wrapping up on Saturday This past Saturday. They had their second semi-final and yeah it's GonNa be an interesting field as someone who has not been watching Ukraine. How many hours of content in my in for and who were the axe to watch goodness? Yeah I think they've broken out the individual performances Into individual videos on Youtube. So you don't have to watch the full three and a half hour shows Each time so you're welcome I s but Yeah the winner of the first semi final Was CRATES and She has the highest talbot percentage going into the final. Although that's kind of an apples and oranges thing with Like each semi-final Having their own pool of people voting The winner of the second semi-final was virtually with the song Bonfire and I think. Either one of those choices would be a solid one for Ukraine fruits on ninety nine Features are playing this sort of harp like instrument and she just has really beautiful voice and instruments just really cool to look at and the songs fairly. Catchy it's it's I wouldn't describe it as eight OP. It's not that style of Song but yeah it feels very Andre in for Ukraine and then track kind of has like a dark dance element to it. I think either one of those would be a good choice The one that I think is going to be the fun performance to watch on. Saturday is a jerry. Hiles Vegan. There was a lot of dancing fruit. in her first performance. And I'm hoping that the second time around Now that Maybe with a little bit more stage confidence under belts It could be really big and really fun like it. It was almost there during the semi final. And oh just a little bit bigger. I just wanted to be a little bit bigger. So yeah and I don't expect there to be a tremendous amount of controversy this time around but I think I'd say that every year with Ukraine and then get blindsided by something and I. It should be wonderful. I don't expect them to like self disqualify or anything say this is the year that there will be. No there'd be no drama from Ukraine up. Maybe that is the secret sauce. But say that. Say That but which is the but this time. Crimea is Ukraine. Oh Yeah Jamila will also be there to perform during the interval so do not allow her to secretly joined the judging panel get even though it is only six songs it will still probably be three and a half hour show because they go into very heavy critique after each performance like they will get into art direction and they will get into everything So yeah and then there's the voting and stuff that will have to happen but Yeah it'll be a good one to check in on Among all of the other things that are on Saturday Also happening this weekend. Police having their final Poland has been doing their process during the afternoon in Poland. Which means it's been during the morning in America so I have not been as attuned to they're doing Same although in fairness it feels like Poland is trying to figure out what doing the last few years and taking out what works for its processing. The the the first part weeks ago Where each group of singers would had like a theme night advancing. From the semi's we have Cossio Duran Alicia Shampoo Flint Ska and Albert Saturday. Who is Lake Malawi? Lake Malawi from the Czech Republic as they so probably sated during the Eurovision last year. There was an article that went around this week about how they had to change the rules. So that you did not have to be a Polish citizen to participate and I. I don't know why that was being presented this week as if it were news. Because it's just like well like you said. This was recorded a few weeks ago. They were driven. Yeah you guys could just been real quiet about that and just like it felt like the wrong time to release that news if it was going to be news just like okay do you guys so as soon as that came on like so does does the. Lake Malawi Guy Win And it turns out yes and now. We've made sure that that's not a problem for the finals. Yeah now it just seems very odd. How that that whole thing was handled? But if yeah it feels very weird The for the final each of those three acts will be performing a cover and an original song. The original song is presumably their Eurovision Song. So that'll happen. And then we will have a Polish winter and it might be Lake Malawi or Albert from Lake Malawi. I still very confused on if if the band is ham or if the band is simpler to guys. It's him in the other guys. I think that's where we landed last year so because I thought for a while there. I thought his name was actually lake. Malawi not realizing that Lake Malawi is where in Africa is it. It's Oh it's probably near the country of Malawi. Probably Geography was. Never my strong okay. We should probably get out of here before I just say something. That's really embarrassing. Yeah I think that's going to do it for this episode of the Euro. What thanks for listening? Your podcast is hosted by my with homes at me and Ben Smith. 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EP88: Internet Critics and Crooked Promoters

#GetSome with Gary Owen

56:08 min | 1 year ago

EP88: Internet Critics and Crooked Promoters

"You're listening to the podcast tag. Hey, what's up? Everybody is Gary on with get some podcasts as always you can. Let's listen to this on, I tunes just search has to get some or YouTube YouTube dot com. Beck says Garryowen com this week I am in Spokane. Washington June twenty-seventh of the twenty nine I have never been to Spokane this. We my first time of knowing what to expect, and then July thirteenth, I am in Las Vegas at the palms casino. I'm sorry. The. Yeah. The palms casino in the Pearl theater inside the palms casino, July thirteenth, and you won't be there only you're going on trip. I'll in Saint Lucia. I'm coming to Saint Lucia from Vegas. Appreciate it. Because, you know she's a trout. My wife's travel agent all the return of Kenya. Mrs week, go ahead. Hey. And here's here's here's Kane is problem with podcasting. He reads, every comment and takes every comment to heart, and I try to tell her stop. Okay. I think the comments, actually, I think the comments are actually really entertainment entertain mean so I do like to read the comments in fact, okay? This is the one comment I kinda to heart and it made me think about, like, I think last time I was on somebody said you should keep your wife auto show with our whole wish ways. Or she was a tale. Her whole wish stories or something, we should just keep her off. But you not my thought is that is at. We'll talk probably about eighty percents of my life, and I'm an old book. I don't hold from talking about sex. I don't have a problem talking about relationships reds, their intimate or friendly money. NS don't have problems really talking about much and the twenty percent of my life. I won't talk about is only because my mother's still alive. So what she dies or gets the mid probably going to be talking about that. Twenty percent to your mom would know you talking about her anyways, she is in her own world as it is that her friends from text tech savvy than she is. And it's nothing am. I life is like my child has that one or feel guilty about. But so other than that, I really am open book. And, you know, I met a Lou just went on a five minute rant. Awful one YouTube comment, just lie said, no, you say personal. I just want to explain that. I am open book. I'm living my best five I don't. Oh, really care. What people think just quote, a little do Balearic. Oh, thanks ally. Because I'm not your favorite comic now. You are my favorite comic. All will you haven't been Austin? They do my special. No. So I keep on a couple of weeks ago. And I'm still this is two weeks later. I'm still giddy about it because I can't and you're my honesty year when my biggest critics when it comes to stand up. So now that it's been a couple of weeks dust settled. I just saw the first cut so good. I think it's good. What did you think of the special? Okay. So I have produced a couple of Gary specials. And they were good. I think in terms of your standup. I think you looked good. I thought the mobile offered okay gear got his own. I know right? Of proud of myself, he got that, but he had his boots on the boots only working because he had the leather jacket but it was a light nether appropriate for the special. So anyways, he looked good. His timing was impeccable like he didn't rush through. So you're able to hear every word he looked like he owned the stage. So I look at things like that. So no pacing. You know, like the up back. I mean, it was just know pacing. What is at me? Like sometimes you rock not pace. I should use like he does like this. You know, like, okay Bill Dutch without the Dutch. Yeah. Okay. Just the Dogo. Yeah. So, but when I say q. You. It is so an better than any of the other ones, including the ones, I produced it is so effing good. I mean, good material was the like I was cracking up in the bay. I was cracking up in the guy who is directing it in the executive producer said, have you, you never heard his material, as like he is so fucking funny, that he's still cracks me up like is the first time. So watch it. Like I'm telling you, it is the best ever. But some people say that shoe, but a lot of the ones that I've seen by Sally. Not by top on. Well, you know, a lot of comics, and they always be like this, my best work ever, whether it be a movie or a comedy special. But I always all these been doing stand up. There's only been one time where I got off stage and I went oh shit that was perfect that was in the pocket. And that was the Mike eggshell anytime. I've done the TV appearance, any TV parents. And that was the Mike Epps life of the Nokia that twenty minutes looking back on it. I wouldn't change anything. God that was perfect. And I was sweating a lot, though. And the suit was a Steve Harvey suit. Right. Is Steve Harvey suits? We're gonna style. Okay. So as far as my outfit, a private to switch that. And I wish it wasn't sweating as much. Yeah. But that was, I was going last after, like eight comics. And I was putting a lot of pressure on myself to my problem is when I do specials or any TV appearances. Sometimes I rush in the beginning. 'cause I just wanna get into crowd, boo. Boom. The I think the difference between this special in the past ones, was and a lot of do with the city we picked, we picked San Antonio, and the voice, and it would set the crowd in the right frame of mind was the voice of God. I call it the director from backstage piped-in before I came on stage. He said, yo you guys are gonna be on TV looked. You're glad you guys look looking your best and Gary could have picked any city he chose San Antonio. Do a special and the crowd was wearing. Because it's such a prize. We'll city people like here and stuff like that. Right. And so you said that, and then I and you said it usually I'm one to run on stage. I rush then I get my groove about ten minutes. And then I'm in there and then I said night, I run off stage. This is probably the first time ever did a special where I really stopped. I said, good night, and I stayed on the stage and soaked in the love and Wade avenue. Did run the third balcony. The second balcony the box seats. I would everybody in that was my one thing. Like he's really take time in soak in that moment when you're done in the crowd was crazy crazy. So seriously, it Israel worth watching. I can't wait. Yeah. But I I'm saying I got that feeling after the Fs one. I got it feeling. I remember I called you a tactic. That was it. I think she was going to start changing and it did it star James on the next week. It was like. Clan against are calling me to go. Remember, they sent me the Japan, I because they doing those shack all star dates, and he didn't know maybe that was the crowd that night or anything he goes, I want to know how he is the work with and I wanna know can you hold hold the a, a rowdy, you know, outings it isn't a TV taping audience for more than ten minutes. So they sent to Japan of all places, do military base. And, and then I the funniest thing about that trip was. I went from Cincinnati Detroit, Detroit. The Tokyo, and I remember before I got on the Tokyo, flight them in Detroit were sitting there. And I was flying coach. Oh, and remember, I worked my feet. So I had the the middle seat open because it was one three five three. It was a huge plane, so three threes in row five, and then three so I made sure I had the whole row. Right. I was towards the back of the plane granite was probably enroll fifty but it rose mind to three seats and there was the five middle. There is a guy one of the middle ones, and he was like it, can I move over and I can't be a dig at. Yeah. You know. So he said he was sitting on the isle. I was in a window and we sat there for forty five minutes in a plane wouldn't take off. We like what is going on is a thirteen hour flight, somebody was missing on the flight. And the captain goes I know you're wondering why we're delayed. We are missing one passenger. We have to find him. If not, then we have to unload, everyone's luggage and get his luggage off this flight, which is going to take hours. And I was like, and so the guy they found him, okay? Where was the Detroit airport? I don't know where they are found him. When I say, I had never seen an entire plane look as somebody like the debts ear. Oh, and then he was he was. So he was sitting about fifty rolls in front of me. Right. The guy on the aisle seat, wouldn't get up the there was a guy that had the aisle. And then he had the window, right? Okay. So he wasn't in your row. No. He was like fifteen rose in front of me it, but it was a big guy certainly just cross. He went, no, I'm not getting up step over the guy had to step Rover. That was his stand. No bitch. You're going to step over me, and the here's this crazy. So the guy in the window seat and asked to move over was gay currently was gay, and we as soon as they said, ding you use bathrooms. She got up. Footy go right, then he came back like a half hour later. Grad is backpack. He goes, thanks to me. Was gone. I go here. Yeah. Where did he go he found the other guy on the plane? So I went to use the bathroom. Couple hours later. He's bullshit with this other gay dude as I do they found each other. They were having the time of their lives on that play. Everybody drinks. Thank you. Oh, that's great. They found the then. Then you've got your whole to yourself. I lay down naps that was that was almost better than I because I was able to pull up the armrest and lay down flat like a little bit. To the back not bitter numbers now but still three rose. I've never do that again. But I remember I flew back and I said, I'm just gonna upgrade my seat. It's gonna take this L on this money as I can't fly like that coach, Jim and international. And then the lady of grade me for free. She was real cool. You think you're you got a lot of miles into the let me see I have opened seat. I don't know what she did. But she worked at that was nice. Does nice. So when you don't read the comments what you do read the comments if any, but one of them, you said to me, and I said he we both read it was somehow you, you know, a lot about, oh nothing. This is now now this is another one. This is this kind of maybe that out loud. He said, Kenya knows a little about a lot that made me, would you want to read your phone? You're gonna text. Would they say that made me? Code is all in the open again. Sorry. I've been thinking it out. I'm trying to help you hear K. What what own? I'm just. Okay. Did you get it? Yeah. Thank you. Okay. K just note. Thank you. See if you're gonna give your coat yet. Oh, what, what good is that now you put your phone face data like the knocking on your? Chelsea protected her phone now. Nobody's going to see it now. Face down. Okay. So anyways, there's one comment which I love her sorry, this, we talked to okay, hold on. We taught Kennett. You'll be looking right at the camera when you on the podcast. She was looking at me. I've looked at you this whole package you is because you're looking at you know, I feel like we are Diana Ross. And right. Lionel Richie, when they did this duet in this lab, she would never look at him. She was all, and he was. But anyways, don't talk into the kingdom. But anyways, the comment that Hemi they made me back out loud, was a guy who said he knows a little about a lot is not a little about a lot financial are told you before you came on this week. I said, I'm gonna leave it to you. I'm gonna leave the topics up to you and I'll just go with it. I'll chime in might not know shit about him. And I didn't know you were going to write a thesis. No. These are good. No. These are good. It. The podcast is rarely over an hour you have about twenty topics. So listen, you want to have more than you may need something goes very wrong or wrong. Okay. So you always say, 'i penises. This one comes up very short. Tell you a funny story about a short peanuts a little penis. Okay. Sure. So I'm a part of it. I have a friend, and she was dating this guy she met at a club, and she it was she met a medic Levin. L A in its time she was in Oakland, and they really by. And so when she left, this is when people show us the phones they kept in phones, obviously, as opposed to remain Louis, like, like a landline phone, pay phones phones. Okay. So they really connected, you know, while she was in Oakland, because it was talking all the time, so she planned to go and see him. So she wins. Sina saw him picked her up which at the hotel room from where to where he shoes picky. Picked her up from the airport, the city she flew from Oakland LA to LA. Okay. He picked up another. Yes. She was just going to be there the weekend. And so they went out they hung out, whatever she's a drinker and I guess it came time, then you the d- do to deed. And she said Kenya when. He whipped it out. It was so small, she's a size Queen. It was so small, she said, I'm in you drink. It was the guy black he wasn't. But sorry. And he was a black white skin. And she said he was a tract Ken awhile took little satisfaction head to get a couple of drinks. True for Tracy that weekend was last week. He couldn't like a rabbit. No, the go fast. Oh did like if it's small like did tell the women. Well, no man's like friction starting to fire. Oh. I mean do you have any PG topics? Okay gay. So listen. So we're talking about flying in. We just flew I'm over here you looking at my notes. So we just flew. And I watched this duck called amazing grace about Aretha Franklin. Okay. So if I watching because I never read the Franklin, but I love her even more. So this is really about her taping making an album in a church and they are doing it lives in. They had a film crew. So. Beaks. I mean, she still had the, the little afro, so I mean was long time ago. Yeah. They took it took years. I mean, obviously probably decades for this to come out early because her father is still alive. Also in it. But anyways I'm still alive. And she she's been gone for yes. But I mean this is when she was like smaller, like a lot smaller have been sixty or seventy s exactly pace on state. It's beyond in this black church. And when I say to you, if she speaks, ten words in this whole documentary, I would be over exaggerating. I do not remember hearing one sentence unless she's like talking to someone in the music production, like, okay, let's go or can I get some water? It is really all about her music. She never once spoke to the audience at all almost like a walk in our we'd the same thing because my music speaks for itself. But when she sang, it even on the plane, it really to hear her voice, and the strength in the tone bought, like brought tears to my eyes. It was the weirdest. What's your favorite Aretha Franklin song? God. Oh on I love to hear her seeing amazing grace. I just love to hear her Sima song. You man legs, a woman you make a one zero. The big chill the move out. What do they have that in that? And that's one of the most underrated movies that had a great soundtrack. Because the reasoning. Mom yet. Oh, people jump SU. This talk about the reasoning in the big chill will combine it. And I don't know if you've ever seen the movie, the big chill have you. I have. But that was a one time. Oh, I thought it was so good. Okay. I can watch. The ones that you would ask about a couple so you got these best friends from college, or lifelong friends, and I always say, lifelong friends are those that you ain't gotta talk to multi when you see him, it's like no time has passed. So the one girl just she couldn't this guy is married to his wife and the woman, just has the worst luck of men and, or biological clock is ticking Schwantz of a baby, but she wants to have with the right guy, she's almost like a little bit like, I'm looking at all the characters of a man like is he good to people was nice to people as he does. He have a rational behavior, and the since she can't find a dude. She tells her husband. Because you'll get her pregnancy with her one time, so she can have a baby friend says to the husband go have sex with our wife, his wife. Right. Says the him go have sex and get away net. Give her pregnant, that's the white ship ashamed. Nobody sandwich. And if we're talking about that was this place. Okay, I'm gonna came down and everything was good. They were happy. I'm sure it was the whole movie takes place over weekend. But she tells like what happens is everybody kind of knows all the guys that, are there, because the big chills about all these college friends from university of Michigan. They come together because one of their college of buddies passes away and Kevin Costner was passed away. He was getting mccaskill people know that she had no lines we just land the casket and they all come together for a weekend. Somebody's house and the girl base, I wanna have a kid, but I just I don't think she wants to commitments she does want to dance. She just wants a kid and raise it. I want that experience. And so you got all the guys kind of putting their dibs in all the single guys that are at the college guy. Well, they're all in their like early thirties, but they're all like putting in Jeff Goldblum air. And he was like, just think about it. They're playing football thing about it. I'm good guy, the other guy. And she just she doesn't think any of them, right? And then the one guy that's got shit together. It was it was Kevin Kline. That's who played it in, Glenn Close's wife. And then. That cast is amazing. Yeah. I'm going close. Those Kevin fire woman. It was a dark here woman in that movie. I know she's been a lot of moves by the owner, Ernie. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. But yeah, we, would you ever do that? Tell you to go have sex with somebody. I didn't say me. I just said, hypothetically, not, not say me no, because what happened on who was. But would you how would never say to my husband or somebody, I'm gonna relationship to go get somebody else pregnant? Because then, you know you go have child support issues, you will have this isn't like that right shoot. She's saying black white shoe hard times. No white shit. I would not do that, especially when you've got a houseful of single, she was very she was very well off too. I think in the mount now do that. Would you that me have sex with a guy that wants vice versa? Would it mean what have someone else's baby? Like one of my guy, friends you bring it. You're, you're not kidding guys, baby. That comes a lot lot comes with that. What did he get saggy stress smarts in your stomach? He said, if, if I, but I guess stretch marks. So if you did what you could okay if you got pregnant by shack that your stomach. I don't know if it can coach ex baby. Okay. Would have mice. Can you donate an AIG? Donate egg. What do you mean? Like can I donate an ache to maybe somebody's a couple that we know how much? Wow. Much lizard price. No, how much they want you to donate your egg. Yeah. So it's, it's your personality. Yeah, but it's not your baby. You have no responsibility for the, the problem with you is you are so you become so emotionally, right? Like tied that, baby. Because Larry now and then you'd have a moment where like. No. I think I would be so killers like, oh yeah. We've got a babysitter from nanny nine one, one can only my baby with that, you know what I mean. So that what is your baby? Exactly. They would say it's not maybe but I was like, it's my baby, we never had a babysitter for our kids, so you know, so now that, that would work. That's just I don't know. But I think if one of my kids, meet it a Saragan, I would do that. What do you mean 'cause I haven't fantastic uterus, the doctor told me so, like Kennedy couldn't have a kid or all you would carry her baby. Yeah. Or millions or Austin's. Yeah. But it wouldn't be my age their age nurse firms. But if they needed a fantastic uterus. Our son just went disgusting. The bag. I thought it was helpful to you that's cheap. So. Oh, forget it. We have children in the house. Yes. I forgot we'll children in the house. Yes. The her was in the Bank, disgusting. So let me get back to this wreath the Franklin thing. So anyways, it is. You know, it's not high death or anything like that. But it's really just interesting. And I have heard so many stories about her relationship with her father that I wanted her father towards the end comes up to introduce her any talks. I wanted to have a conversation, not what history Mia. So I wanted to see her interactions with her father, who she clearly says, is responsible for, you know, her sound in her career and every the beginning of her career, but I just learned some interesting things about or so after that, I started Google lean her. She used to always have her purse with her always cause us to get paid in cash. And even when she was at the Kennedy center's the Kennedy Center honors. Yeah, she had her purse she came on stage. And she laid it. Right on top of the piano. Always always had a purse because she says, so many African American artists have been ripped off by promoter, so she would get paid in cash upfront in her little purse easily, Pat. I'm no. Her agent was like Retha. It's fine. She had like a Jewish spider to many stories. Yeah. I mean granted I say in any any any entertainment, whether it's wrapping Aren be singing comedy plays when you first start in. You're gonna get ripped off at some point because you got these flab night promoters I've ever few times. Never lately was always in the beginning of my career. I never had any horror stories. Well, the one was pretty bad. Oh, sorry. It was made Tilly make chili. Makes Guam wonder why I wrote gigs. I go to Guam I fly halfway across the earth, and the I get there. Here's a happen. I'm flying. My flank it's turned around halfway to Hawaii, Kylie will have in us back and we went to white last year. Sweet go back to LAX. I shoulda LAX for like ten hours. Then we finally get back on the plane by the time I landed in Guam after this I was supposed to get their day early. The show is suppose started eight I think I landed in Guam at ten PM, and this is pre nine eleven. So there was a lot more lax, the, the guy was waiting on the runway with two cars and a police escort to the show Gouami big. And this guy is name was Pierre crock real one of biggest crooks out there. He's been he's been run out of so many different cities in, in, in states. He's there with, with a police escort. We get to the venue now. The way he runs it is the comedy was supposed to be early and then turns into a nightclub afterwards. So I didn't get there like ten twenty. She'll start at eight. So I go up. I'm up there about. Yeah. Because it's a club now. So you have people there for the comedy show. You get also people and it's an outdoor beach type deal. So people were just kind of hanging. So a lot of people, they had a DJ plan. So the seats are so there. But people are it's bar, so you gotta gotta host and a couple of openers. So I'm up about twenty thirty minutes supposed to do an hour. I could feel the crowd like Nelson towards the Levin. Now ready to party? Now, I learn looked over us onstage with the Mike I said no supposed to be up an hour. But it looks like you're ready to party show's been awesome. I said, we read some early. I asked the crowd. You guys go daddy, ready to party or something. He report where you guys. Good night. Great. Supposed to get five hundred dollars. I flew to Guam for five hundred dollars. He flew you he flew into Guam. He gave me two hundred dollars. He said, yeah, man, it's out is I never been in a row for. I don't know. He was he had this, how it is may, you know, you know, you have to show. So as to fifty and I was okay. I don't know any better. Right. So I went now I don't know any better. So then I stayed in Guam another day, it's supposed to be a three days now down to one day. And I fly back and he asked me to come play his charity basketball game with old and policies couple months later because he's, they liked you hear the crowd, light you and he was gonna do another big comedy show that night. So again, he's going to be five hundred dollars. Again, he flies out the Guam again. I feel I don't know any better a flag out to Guam. He puts me when the shittiest hotels I've ever seen in my life right now. The pamphlet that I got said, I was staying at the west. Thin and Kwame round the beach. So I go off on him. I go use it in the west, and I'm at the West End of the island, and then I'm going off anybody can in earshot on me every time we go out to eat everything then we're at there's where the Gulf, there's a golf event where at this law, and I'm bagging on him dude up this hotel, shitting. My wanted him work. I got a bath in, in the pool. I get some shampoo. I got a bath in the pool then he left me there for a day craziest story, he left me there for a day, I'd only wearing in Guam to eat. There's a bird king, but a half a mile down the road. Eight a Burger King the whole first day. Right. 'cause I got there, I got to, like, in the middle of the night and they didn't need me until the next day. So I had a whole day by myself the water fucking didn't work. So I remember there was a tight end for the Rams, and there was another guy named Tony Royster was the other comedian. So we're all their bitching and complaining. Right. So the Rams guy goes, I'm gonna talk to Dumas we get out of this ship. So the Ramstein ain't got moved. Over. Right. So I see him at the golf as you got moved. I didn't get moved. He was like jam, and he goes, I had to pay for my own room, though. He has never come back this year. Her own, so Pierre I'm talking to them. He goes, yeah, I had to pay for his room. That was the last time they had the they got a hurricane or some a lot of people are stuck. He's lying. So now I caught him in lot, the Rams guy. Just said he paid for his Pearson. He paid for it. I want somebody. Oh, here's a lion. Some golf peer stands up in mill is golf thing and goes talk shit to me. He goes, you've got to be what you do. He's threatening me. Because MAC, have you killed out here as I'm that, you know, I go well, I would tell the hitman get his money up front, because if you don't pay them full, he probably go get the rest of it went some bad and air by lost it, right? Hit me, his money up front. So he goes, you're gone. So I was literally on a flight like an hour later acid. I ain't begging to stay. So now I'm flying all fucking back to LA Guam. Never got the do the comedy show. The charity basketball game, I was just I the golf was the first day and that was it. So I gave back and now I'm like fuck alled Impala knees fucked, this guy, Pierre crock well, so I'm living in San Diego at the time, right? Tom down there and say Nagel I'm telling my boys on their what happened and this girl that was just in the room, then when I was talking at the comedy store. Some about what happens. She has. Who is? It was his name, I go peer, cockroach. She goes, hold on. She called her dad, her dad comes up to the comedy store and pulls me aside, and I might look to folks go on. He goes, what was the guy's name appear crock. Well, he goes about six six last Kim bike. Yeah. Yeah. So the girl goes told you dad told you I'm like, what the folks going on? So I give diff- def comedy jam can Hegel the year before Pierre was living in San Diego. He was one of the like four people pardoned up, brought def jam peer went to the box office to settle with the house and had a plane waiting to go to Guam. So he ripped off all the promoters. Nobody paid on that depth GM. So he took the money. I guess it was like forty fifty thousand and rolled to Guam headed all said dad was learning to investors. Yup. Her dad was one of the guys in invested with peer. And they Sapir never put up any money. His thing was help book, the comics, and he was going to settle and everything. They said he went to the box office, right when the show was going on got the money because he was the guy Hanlon ship and split town. And they didn't know where he was a worry was Guam. Now. They know. So then he got ran out of Guam then he find out. Oh, he ripped the people off in Guam. He was ripping off all kinds of people there. Then he goes to Seattle. Oh, he goes to Alaska and he starts doing. He's always these weird cities. He's an Anchorage. Somebody finds out I know Pierre the hear the starbuck wanna guy goes eight Pierre Guam he's like, well he came here and ripped the Indians off the like the Indian reservations or something, the chiefs 'cause he started bringing shows think they're gone native, American native Americans. I don't know. But he he ripped off. Somebody some people Laskey said he's gonna bring a show so he brought like he brought like Cedric, right? So he ended up paying Cedric in everybody up paid, and they did at this venue. And then the next show, Danny got a budget. And once he got the big budget, they thought he was going to bring people on the level of Cedric. Nah. He took the money and split town. So probably got a couple of hundred thousand out of their went to Seattle start doing shows in Seattle and I just know, like I can't believe that these still alive as many places, reputa-, Santago Guam and Alaska. How long ago did you hear? He was in. Well glommed was twenty one years ago. And so that San Diego was twenty two twenty three years ago that's when deaf was to us that Fisher Seattle. This probably twelve years ago artisan Seattle. 'cause Alaska was like seventeen years ago, I was there and the guy heard about my story with peer somehow and with telling me how you're at them all the guy, the guy brought me to Alaska like three times, and he works for the pipeline. So we had like low oil money. So he said to me, did I just like bringing entertainment to the city? I live here, my family's here. Just an what brought up because. Yeah, we had one guy that he was ripping everybody off. He was saying bringing shows wasn't. And then I tell him randomly about that's him. That's the guy was running people off over here in Anchorage, as I what and those that I don't know what that is. But if anybody knows I don't mind I don't mind snitching on crooks. His name is Pierre crock real. Why coins? You may want to settle you do the settling in the new pay peak. I bet you when this air that betcha people send me messages about them, you can't burn that many bridges, but I heard he hired. He's banned from a lot of cities. He's any just the only three that's his MO. Wow. Yep. Now twenty years ago. Oh, okay. So speaking of ripping people off. So a couple of months ago, there was a woman who threw wag wag is light, you can get on wag, we have a dog she had docked and you can get people to come and walk it all come dogs, if you would ever, so she reached out to a woman at had, like three hundred two hundred fifty five five star ratings to come in stay a weekend with her dog because she was going to go to a wedding someplace else. So she got this woman they had an agreement, I think it was like three hundred and some odd dollars for her to stay with the two dogs, and she had a couple of rules like no one in the house. But you, you know, simple rules. Know she told the lady, I have a dog and Cam, which is like a baby, like a baby Cam, and monitor and everything. So the lady leaves happens to sign into the dogs can't and sees the lady walking around naked. If her house city on her sofa in her favorite spa. The owner's favorite spot of the so-so, the lady is they okay. So she could. Well, she didn't. She cannot believe this because you talk radio, I have a camera, I have a camera did. She sees the girl's boyfriend coming and going them making out on the sofa did she drags, the boy address leads the boyfriend into the bedroom closes the door, and he leaves the dogs like barking at the door on opposite side of it. So the lady also had her parents coming over or whatever, so she immediately rushes home and wag, the company bay fire her, and she confronts. A lady like this aren't told you I had this camera, you know, see you walking around naked Malays as well. I told I don't like close. So I'm always naked and she tells him and it was hot. So is like, what about the boyfriend you had, you know, you and your boyfriend was making out all over my sofa. You win has sex. So she denies the Saxon lace it on. I don't know. But I'm sure they had sex. But the lady says she cannot showed even touch the sofa. But did they do it doggie style? That's the key. No camera. And she locked the dogs out, so they can't tell story the worst shit about dogs as. Can't talk but CAD Dan, they will stare the fuck out of you. We've messed around a couple of times and the dog was in the room like this is weird dodge looking at you like this. Dogging? No problem being a voyeur daisy simulate. But here's my guys at close to me anyways, true. He'll just come in, like lay her body, like literally on top of mind like near my face across my chest after all sound chain service over that old. Yes, I'm waiting for. He's a Grammy. Okay. Say read, so funny is I could feel my little necklace right here and notes, very dainty. But it's really cute. I mix with the star, and it is my it has my breasts have eaten. It's little changed. It's like a soldier. It's like one soldier fighting a really big war. I'm not gonna take it all buddy. So that'll give them the I tunes. I mean that will give them the YouTube if you're listening to us on itunes for sure. Let me see that one filled your foot in the war. Remember the Alamo? So I have so anyways, she got her money back from whereas and that was over. But I have a question for you. So it is recently, this chant trans gendered woman. Okay. I mean take us with transgender so transbay. No transgenders again, trans gender is, when you identify with an opposite the opposite sex. So if you take it further than that, and like change or private part, then you will become a transsexual. Okay. So this person is a transgender woman means it wasn't man and identifies as a woman. So she goes on to win NCWA division to four hundred meter hurdle event. So she wins it. She wins the championship. She's also elected to first teams okay, the year before she is participating in. Male events like male track events, which she came in a. All right. So keep in mind, she's trans gendered not trans sexual which means she still has the same sort of the penis. Right. And but he also still has the Casaus Jerome level of a man, you can't. Let me tell you. What about to stop strong case you don't know? It is responsible for your the Beato your strength. Have you? They don't miss out on, if they don't know what to stodgy. They don't know where libido is okay. Well, you wanting to have sex like you being internal sex, okay? And your your muscle mass you in your strength. Now, a little bit of your of the disaster on will turn into some form of estrogen, estrogen called Estra dial with something like that. But it turns into a form of estrogen. But right now she's still transgender. Do you think a TRAN? Gendered one should be able to participate in an off Email. No, no. If she had the surgery. No. Thank you. You were born of male. That's like you have an advantage like men, just naturally are bigger stronger faster than women just have to stash. Drones structures. Mostly yes structure. But yet that is not fair. That's an advantage. And I'm sorry, the transgenders should have their own sporting events. They said their own championships. If yet male female, and it can get enough. It's even it's not fair. It's not fair. It's just not fair. That's why females don't participate. We get sue caught up in trying to be politically correct in we get too caught up and everything's gotta be fair, everything isn't fair in the world. And that's just isn't fair. It's not fair to those girls that have been trained their whole life, the whole life for this, and they got somebody coming in. It was a dude. Thank you want a man. I didn't watch the super movie was it was pretty good. Davidson stole it pretty good. I agree with you. I don't think I'll have chant transgender genders, but I don't think they should be able to participate and the TRAN I dunno sport. I'm confused myself, a whatever, I don't think sport should be able to participate. Now, if he wants to be dressed up as a woman in participate in a male sport, I don't have a problem with that bright, that, that's okay. Yeah. I can't be dude, trying to be a if you were born of dude. And whether transgender transsexual wherever, you know, about transsexual home, we're going to do, but you're not, you don't have the same level as to stri. Get you naturally you were supposed to be a man and a boy natural. That's how you were born. So I'll probably participating in male sports or we're getting against dudes. But you can't go against female. That's, that's an advantage this just an advantage and people were going gonna big deal out of nothing. The your dream was not to be an Athey your dream was to be a woman. If if you're transgender don't we have in too many dreams. Montre. No, you're dream was to be a woman, you, we do you can get that dream. You can have that dreams. I hats transgendered males should have their own sports. I don't think they their own Olympics their own events. Yes, I don't think participate with just women because you took away some obviously, she did take away some girls, you know, opportunity to be a champion some. Yeah. That's not fair. No. Let's not. Are they mostly would agree with that? And the people that don't is don't make the most noise but they're very much in the minority very much. And we'll just because we were just talking about fair. Can we talk about OJ for a minute? Okay. So. OJ simpson. Yeah, has always we was hoping Utah. Elgin has recently made a statement that he is loving retirement. You know, he's playing golf every day he is dating lives in Las Vegas. Like, really, he doesn't have any complaints. He had his knees or he had some knee replacements, and there was a prison is surgery have convert. He says he never thinks about the Nicole Brown situation and he hasn't thought about it in twenty five years. But it talked about. He will he talked about enough to say I don't think about it at all. It never crosses my mind. I think that, that really that's so unfair. That really bothers me, first of all, because he still has kids by Nicole. And I, I've always thought he did it, but I think he did it and he is like living his best life. Not. I think that's so heartless like, how do you never think about your ex wife? I think he just he has found a way to troll the people against them, because he's, he's he gets tax so much as he should. Honestly as he should right? I'm not just fine. But I think he just gets so sick of everybody coming out every day, and people heckling them every day. He's like, you know what I'm thinking about Nicole? I think it's his way of firing back as much as he can. You know. Oh, really? I think about eating it's weird that he is dating, like women are dating him. I don't know it ain't no story. It's no different than women date men on death row. And serial killers the thing about OJ is I think he had a temper problem. I think he had, you know, I think you could he did it. He killed it. He had that moment that he couldn't control himself. But do I think he's a serial killer and he's still threat to society, no from being blunt, I don't think he's I don't think he'd killed in or that is ink. Whatever reason. I'd say the perfect scenario happened, but whatever was going on in his life at that time, and he lost complete control. And in killed two innocent people, but I don't think he's Charles Manson or Ted Bundy vows him. I would think as soon as it was over and I decided to move on in day. Somebody else, I would be next. So, I would not be fooling with OJ unless my plan was just to stay forever with OJ Simpson. He's a trauma and doodo though. I met him a few times that dude is he came to my show Miami years ago for about two thousand two but way before the Vegas stuff happened. And that's what he was living in Miami. And he, he walked in, and they told me to go OJ's here, and I go, okay, we're going to do about it. I'm not heckling if he heckles me, I'm not going at him. So he literally told the host he goes, look, now, if you announce I'm here, I can't stop you from doing that. He said by just gimme a heads up and OJ came with a cane with some guys. But there were some white women with them to when that host. So we got OJ in the building. First of all the crowd went nuts cheering. Secondly, this month fucking moved say between two black girls us again. Damn this look the g so he did not want to be didn't want to be in between two white girls when they announced me was there. So when they said, oh, these in the building, I was on the side. I looked I said that my focus in between two girls, he moved right before they said that he said he told the host bowel challenge before did the bow out aid play wanna make sure when he got he was getting left member body and then afterwards, the old might man problems in at the bar. He comes up, there's talking to me. And you forget the us he's probably killer you. Forget, right. So you're like he talks to me about usually when I San Francisco Atty, last times, the conversation, ends right there tonight. They move on. No OJ proceeded to tell me out when he was a buffalo. How they played Cincinnati where they stayed. At what he liked about the city, I was like, I learned got caught up in a conversation like, oh, shit. But you got the summer about those people man. We talked about this with, you know, with the super video when I mentioned it when I met super head current Stephens, and you met her. She's charming. So you wonder why do you guys seem with her when he realized their business, probably going out there? And then when you meet her you talk to, oh, they have a way to sucks you in, man. And OJ was the same way like I'm having a conversation that we all buddies is like I left it like the Wendy Williams said that about him when she came on her show time, OJ, anytime you guys noticed whenever Wendy talks about OJ. It's almost like she has. The talk is always level. She said that she not on about Christmas. She said when he came on her radio show, and this, Wendy was notorious for going three on a radio show. She bring up all the dirt get your skin. She brought Oji on to try to, you know go at him. And he got her spy by halfway through she goes, I like you Jay and I didn't wanna like you. We'll she still talks very fun. I mean, finally, she does believe he she he killed Nicole Brown Simpson Simpson. But she tells about him fondly like, you know, always reminds us how handsome he is. And how charming he is and not talk so much about Wendy. But she is a nicer version of herself since this divorce, I think MS probably happy. But she clearly have. I've always liked twenty. Yeah. From job always said that. Yeah. Vocally she put me on her talk show when nobody else was, you know, when things I command came out, and I was in invited with all the other guys. Yeah. Which is let me be very good. This is not a knock on the other guys either. They got nothing to do with it. They're just showing up. But for whatever reason she was like, you know, I'll bring gear on after the movie comes out, and she did resin. We came out. She brought me on. So people go windy. That was really you're easy, likable guy. So I mean really who have you met that was famous that was you thought very rude or dismisses football players? Very famous ones. I guess, kinda dick where they at today. Well one's in the hall of fame. Wjm. Those one NFL players dick both times. Metabolic damn. I thought kissing times you meet p when you're, like might be having a bad day or amendment of club and be like why she didn't say anything. You're right. It was Warren Sapp peacefully with the buccaneers. Now, you know, so, Well, I, I don't want to say that, but he was asked to see here's what happened. Here's my two incidents with Warren is one. It was the Super Bowl in Tampa and Andre Johnson, Santana moss Clinton Portis. They all came to my show at the improv as their Super Bowl weekend, and they said, hey, we're going to this party at the hard rock come through as a great uncles there. And he's I could get the hang out with Andre Johnson on his uncle. I'm there I like hanging off those guys so Andre so low key less on on is Andre Johnson uncle, so Andre says I and this is so Andre. He's so low key to be one of the greatest swabs years ever. He goes just calm. When you get there, Gary, I wait outside for you, Andre waited outside the club for me to get there. So 'cause he's gotta walk him. So he walks in, and we go to this section that I don't know who section it is because all the hurricanes there, my all ex Miami hurricane Volvo players, so Santana's their warm wasn't at my show. So Andre goes eight is this, Gary Owen? I stick my hand at Warren, doesn't shake it. I got a head. He just looked at me. And I went okay, and then he walks away, and I was like, under what was that? He goes, once weird like it's fine. He's got to get to know you and I go all right? It's fine. And I'm listening when I go to people sections. I don't try to. Rank off their bottles. If I drink, I'll go the bar by drink because I, I know I know what it's like got a bunch of guys. It's a Super Bowl that lasts you on is more guy up your section drinking your liquor when you're trying to give did you don't know. And then you you at your out also girl wants to drink. You can't get her drink because this do you don't know. So I won't drink warns liquor, I wouldn't touch it right. Brad was Whitney Clinton Portis says A G A. You can you put me a drink real quick. He asked me porn drink. No problem. Clint what do you want? Let's say Vakhin or shoes. I grab a glass, I grab the bottle warrants runs up like he was gonna stop me from the drink. And I looked at it, and I go and Clinton goes, that's from me, an orange like he went like this. I never gonna show you. And they walked away with the feckless. So I'm poor couldn't drink clear. What was ashes warn? You guys. Normally we're this. So that was the first time I met him, excuse me. I'm just adding his name to the list, stop. That was the first one, then the next time met him was in Miami, and I dunno oneself you to some. And again, somebody introduced me again. Like why did I do it again? He didn't shake my hand again. I was like this. It's up went like this, at least he acknowledged humid like this. You're snag as well. Did. I don't want anything from like. Every time I think I remember him being ugly. No has he had some legal problems Warren after that he got caught with the hookers in Phoenix at the Marriott. That's what you get for being. Meanwhile, Gary, yeah, that's what it was. Well, he was negotiate with the hookers, first of all, because for the Hooker at the price is it is. Price is what it is. But the only I remember was I saw him out the night for the shit went down with the, the hookers and everything we got in trouble. And I forget why saw, but I didn't even try to approach, but I just saw. Of course, I saw nine the other NFL players to at this party. And I just remember I went to bed, and I had to get up at, like six to catch a flight and I was I just remember when I got up the next morning, the news had broke when I landed, right and I was just thinking damn. So he got in trouble like four or five in the morning. I said, damn, I was eating oatmeal at the Lakisha in and he was getting busted, by the with the hookers, I go choices. I just remember that Phoenix. I had that in Phoenix in the promoter book to show so late he tried to put me an hour outside of Phoenix as some beautiful resort. And I said, dude, I am not going to think Super Bowl week and stay in our way. I like to hit I like to you don't be like athletes and being hanging out bullshitting and like, so I had to pay like it was like three hundred fifty dollars a night that looked into. And I remember when I got there, I go I talked to the front desk 'cause that's the only thing they had left. But tell we booked it. I was like, you know, ripped me off. Right. And literally till the front has I go. I'm going to get some food other panty. The next two days. Don't charge me. Don't try because I'm like my Kita in Bill is going to be over. Thousands, it is do not charge me for the crackers and Coca Cola. I grab on please guy like this. Got you g was a black dude. I was listening when I take out. I had nothing on my pantry and I grew shit to fish coffee, Latinos tuna fish from a hotel pantry. What is it can try need halfway decent? But how do you. Well, it's in a little bag, little suction, whatever I'm just giving an example, fuck up got twins, goddamn took every so bitter, Tuta anyways. Yes, it was Warren. That was that, if you asked me, an asshole. Yes. And still to this day, I have seen around the people. You know, I don't know. Maybe here's my thing when people weren't Astle to like that. I just think they probably think they're better than me is what I take it. That's how I'd turn like things. I'd be looking at it like this, and their brand like this, he's not worthy, cause I've seen worn out around other people that he didn't know, and he was cool when he thought they were his level, even that night, soon Bill, just know this. No. Hold on, even the Super Bowl, I song get introduced to a couple of guys off onto us that was early. Dylan Matt Dillon and another guy. And he he the person introduce them. Demo was smiling more was smiling, giving them half five this damn. And here's these me. Well, the good thing that you should know is regardless, if he thought he was better than you at any point, you can think you've never had to negotiate a pay for pussy so bear. This is just put it all in perspective. How good warns that is or is not. So lucky you. Okay. Yeah. All right. Henry ever had to negotiate a new embrace pretty. You. One year house looking. Cooking soldier necklace. Yeah. So happy for buzzing around about what. All right, man. I will know allow you ended on, we ended strong anyways Spokane you won't see this weekend. Let me know hookers ever. Good Spokane our, we're going with this anyways. This gets get some podcasts. Had shit. I'm sorry. It's fine. It's fine. Let let let her have her moment. 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Bonus! Melodifestivalen 2019

The EuroWhat? A Eurovision Podcast

34:29 min | 1 year ago

Bonus! Melodifestivalen 2019

"Uh-huh. This time we'd like to say ally. So love us in. Sweden. Hello. And welcome to the euro. I'm Ben Smith on joy today. Mike mccomb? Hey, hello. We are a pair of Americans trying to make sense of the Irvine song contest. And for this bonus at this. We'll be talking about the mouth that's final and pay. We're in the same physical space for one. That's that's weird. Yeah. It's really weird in order to accomplish that we had to go to a different times with rather than the meeting in the middle. Which would be smart me. Both are in Las Vegas for trivial things. So why not you know, I had ruined my suitcase out through the microphone in there. Yeah. Yeah. And Mel fest is heading toward it's inevitable conclusion. We are in the midst of super Saturday to elect blue this time with Iceland. And like Sweden has done all of its second chance business and determined its final twelve which is feeling a lot. Yeah. I kind of wish that they would cut down to four hundred Johnston, and then have another vote to either cut it down to one or two. Them in the final. Yeah. Especially since only one person has ever gotten out of Andre Johnson. And then one it's not agree position to be in like just looking at other Mel fest. News ratings still seem down on like the first episode had better ratings than usual. But then just as a whole reading seem to be down this year. I think you're still trying to figure out how to shake that. How does shake fessed up? Yeah. I know they were trying some stuff last year rebranding, none of that took. So take this year. They are playing the voting, and I kind of get it. And it's it's interesting having that heartbeat thing in the corner. But I don't remember what colored is what age group. I wanna do is that some health X places in fifth in places in six most part. Yeah, data. Yeah. We'll be we're watching the show as as we record this. They did tweet out of the graph of what each Heller heart stands for. And it made me realize that I didn't really see the purple heart all that much which is like the thirty to forty five age group. So that's interesting. Things they're doing with their Saturday. Right. So. Yeah. Again, when that try to data drop comes out to be fascinating to me, real interesting. Yeah. Because who knows maybe they were very engaged. But that was just fifteen of them anyways. The voting is done the second chancers are selected, and we have a final running order, and I kind of love that they showed us like the final running order where they were slotting things in. Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was that was nice. It was nice thinking about this. A week out from the final. But also like I got to put like, my my my puzzle brain to work and think okay, the weed if slop between this artists and this artist who's going to win the duel. Yeah. And by the time it got to the final tools. Oh, well, you don't wanna have this person next to that person. Because that's just not the same. But yeah, let's let's dive into these twelve entries. So the the first one that we have is gone Henrik geogra- with nor skin. Okay. So I like, you're one hundred Fiorina's performer. I think it's awesome that much like we've seen with Denmark and with other nations that they are bringing in indigenous languages like the Saami people are a big part of Sweden. And I think it's super cool. This is not my favorite young Sheldon saw. Yeah. It's a little difficult to latch onto since. There's not a traditional chorus to latch onto and also not being an English makes it particularly difficult for someone like me who does not speak any of the language, but it was interesting because I was I've been kind of putting Mel fest on the back burner the season just to kind of broaden, my your vision horizons, and I was listening to the track on Spotify and wasn't really latching onto it. But then maybe I should pull the performance and see why this one is so popular and the siege performance is very. Yeah. Impressive. There's something for me that like where when I watch something like mouth s with a nation like Sweden that takes this stuff. Very seriously is which one of these feels like I can see it three months from now on stage at in the host city because with Sweden like easy. What you see? There is what you're going to see in three months, and like this before impressive. But somehow like the combo of song performance doesn't quite click for me, something I see in Tel Aviv. Yeah. I mean because they're using the full mill fest, which I'm guessing is going to be at least twice the size of the Tel Aviv stage. Yes. The melting state is yours variable. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think the backing dancers are also backing singers at least in the mill fest performance, and that's not going to work in Tel Aviv. So there's there are some challenges that are going to come up. If this is the one that ends up winning now, if it ends up winning I wouldn't necessarily object to it would be way different than what Sweden has. Yeah. Yeah. I like it from that perspective. It's very different from what what's we usually set. But it also just kind of feels very your vision. Twenty nineteen in that. Nobody knows what to said. And I don't know this. This is what we like twenty nineteen. Yeah. So who knows? So the next one in the running order is Lisa a axe with her song torn. And Lisa a ox. She is Mel s veteran. She's a pop idol veteran. This feels like a very pop idol song. But I don't think it's a great Mel fests song. Or I don't think it's a great showcase for her. Like, I I'm a fan of hers, and we just kind of interesting that I have the same though, I had with her as I do at the children, which is I saw her two years ago. And I like that better. Yeah. Yeah. And I have a feeling that's going to be a theme that comes up a few times this episode. Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree with you. It's not the best showcase for her vocals. It's it's very one note song. Yeah. Yeah. I just like to have something fun. And yeah, this was very fun. And like was not TV friendly because those new. Will like Robin Bank Strom had the same issue where he's using profanity that wouldn't make sense that didn't that did not making it and the song suffered. Sure that was the only reason. No, it's there, and I think in its dual. I think it I liked it a little bit more of the to the this is one of the second chance round qualifiers in it's fine. Yeah. I mean, it's I can kind of understand by ended up in the two spots. And which is really unfortunate. It's kind of like a vote of no-confidence release a accent. It's not fair to her. So yeah. Sorry, lisa. Lisa hope to see you next year. I really do. Next. We have Mahomed be and Hello. Start. The song is fine in the performance at the Royal feels like a twist on the heroes. That's not that interesting to me. Yeah. I think this is maybe not my lease. Let me start again. I don't like this of like, my first note is that the state foreign can take a seat because. Yeah. I mean, it is just rehashing of heroes. Hopefully, without the plagiarism that that performance had last time where they suddenly had to change the the cartoon character. Yeah. But lyrically the song makes no sense. Like the verses do not connect with the bridge, which just goes into this whole like terro fortune telling theme which does not connect to the chorus at all and the choruses just repeating the word. Hello a dozen times. It really could be Elliott two syllable writing this song. So one thing that we I think spoke about is that separate. Yeah. Hip Ray podcasts went through this great sort of talking. Episode talking about Martin and the Swedish Methodist writing this very mathematically precise. Like, it's hitting all the beats in a way that's pleasing. But if you look at the lyrics, it makes no sense whatsoever. And this is just so agree. Gis -ly. Yeah. Like nonsensical. And has a good beat to it. But there are others. You're the good beats to them. Yeah. And I definitely not going to solve Sweden's problem of sending a handsome person in leather pants to your vision. Just feels like a continuation of what they've been doing the last four five years now and they're starting to get into trouble. Like it did not work last year. And yeah, this one could be of real problem, which is a shame because I do like Muhammed voice. I think so as a singer liken song here. Yeah. To the next one. Spoiler t-that right up. Yeah. Lina headlands victorious. This is another one that is going to be sending students several steps back. Yes. Okay. So I've been sort of giving the melt that's updates on the show and they're like a couple of weeks ago. There was a week where my radar was just off. And I said one of the things I really liked then in the bottom and one of the things I thought was going to be set in place immediately. This is that song. Okay. All right. Yeah. That's where my okay, cool. This is like Eurasian decade ago. And it's not going to go through because this is twenty nineteen and it would straight the final unless it knows. It's it's very I mean, my question is like this just sounds like a Koska song. And I'm just wondering if people just want Scott to release new album play or where she then you can just listen to Scott. It's there, but yeah, this is. No. That was. Scott asong victorious glorious. Yeah. Which which was sweet rip up. Okay. Goes full circle. Yeah. So we don't like it. Next up the Shara in on my own. Get by on my own. Jim big Hugh with. I'm just glad that Donny Osmond, his pounced back from finishing his missed. Fish. I completely get that from the Shara just like very hardworking it Philip time be opposite effortless performance. And that you see all of the effort going into it. Yeah. It's it's very effort full. Also, remind me of a bright up stereo gum the site that you mentioned a couple of times on the show is doing the series of songs, and they did a write up of Jackson five's all be there where it was talking about. How the song is how that song is kind of weird in that. It's very adult for and you have a child. Yes. I completely see that with this. Yeah. And there's just a major disconnect. Your what what does this kid getting up to wiser anx? This much emotional pain about relationships at such a young age. I totally get that. And that's a great comparison. Is that it feels very much in the vein of I'll be there. Yeah. And I mean, it's I think it's a good song. It's just it's just that. Yeah, I'm dealing with mental discord when I looked at the performance. Yeah. Yeah. And it's enough where it's distracting, and do you think this one has a chance of going through? I feel like it could sneak in I feel I feel like everybody could be focusing like two or three others in this kids like sneaker to win it that'll that'll be I don't feel. I don't feel like in this list of twelve. It's the worst choice. No, no. But yeah, it's not necessarily the one that I would think right away. Right. And I don't know like again going back to the Sweden's problem of sending the same thing over and over again, this one is slightly outside of that land. It's kind of straddling that lane. It feels very in Grosso. Ask though, right? This one you should keep an eye on. I think next on the list is Anan Bergen doll with ashes to ashes. I'm good. So this was another one that advanced from the under in round, what do you think of this one Ben like this one like I thought that this was going to go through when its first appearance figured it was going to be one of the ones that got there. So I'm very pleased to see in the final. I liked to performance like it suits her. Well, and she she has like the unlucky physician being like the only Swedish performer to make it to your vision. Knock it through my forever. So I totally see why she's kind of fighting to to come back. But I don't know watching the second this performance the second time today, it's it's kind of a little mush mouth at least lyrically like I can't quite make she's going for. But I like kind of the Casey musk rave vibe of of that kind of Casey muskrat meets seventies share. Yes. Which is which is Casey Musk's doing in law for performances, so. Yeah. Like, and I kinda get the mush mouth thing. And yeah, I mean, particularly in her second. Chance around performance. I couldn't get a sense of who she was performing four like this. I really liked the studio track of this. But like watching it on TV she's not really performing for the arena audience. She's not really performing for the TV audience. And I'm just having a tough time connecting with her even though I'd like the song the song. But but yeah, I totally get that from performances. I don't. Yeah. 'cause he wanna have some mixed of both the people who are in this stadium ill. Like, it doesn't like that. Yeah. I think also it doesn't help that every time that she moves on stage. She's just a deeper part of a forest. It's just like I'm just gonna get eaten by underbrush. Stay with us. Please. Okay. So also qualifying for the second chance round. And following that song is nano and chasing rivers. Oh boy. I this like this was the dual in the under chance duels today were just like could there be like a voting glitch, and nobody goes through? I did not like this long, and it's a regional performance and did not like today's performance of better yet. I mean, I think part of it for me is that Nanos style genre is just not for me. And I don't think it's ever going to be for me. And that's not a criticism. Like, I think what he does. He does. Well, it's just what he does is not something I want and. Yeah. Like, I don't know what to do with this other than like questioned like what are they going to do if this were because our? Yeah. Because it's him. There are six backing singers, which is already seven people also like the clips of the kids assuming our live not like a pre taped bit. Although who knows right. So his first performance way back in week one one. Yeah. Like, I don't know if he was fighting a cold that day or something it's just like not a great vocal at all. And I was surprised that he managed to qualify for under Sean sin and then for his second chance performance. The vocal wasn't really that much better. I agree that this was a dual where it's like does anybody actually wins? So and he did really well the last time that he competed Atmel fast. So wondering if that's just kind of writing on that high from his previous appearance, but yeah, the the continuing success of the songs little puzzling. Next up is Hannah firm and Liam oh with whole. So this one's interesting to me just in terms of history of contestants that Sweden has sent to your vision of the last time Sweden sent a non saluis wasn't two thousand seven day. Yeah. And less time that it was a duet was two thousand three so. Yes, this on different just in terms of the composition of competing got. Right. So what do you what do you think the song of? I think this is like one of my favorite like I have like three entries. I think this is I would like to see of this batch, and this is one of them. And I think part of it is that Sweden has set solo performers and this is a duet, and it feels very different for them. Like, I don't like there's one lake lyrical note. Like right at the beginning where she's mentioning something about two thousand seventeen that. I don't like. But that's my one quibble, and I think otherwise it's a really powerful to they're both very good vocally. They're kind of doing an overseeing thing, but that's not the bad. Thing for for your vision. And like the actual staging feels of the various stagings we've seen has been one of the better. I I agree with that the song does feel currently it does feel very twenty nineteen. I'm not finding it particularly sticky. Like, I I can't even think of like the chorus of it now as as we're discussing it, and that's a little concerning. Like, I think particularly with Sweden's reputation the concept. Yeah. Yeah. Like owning the music industry. I just expecting everything to just kind of stick with you. And I do agree that they are both very strong vocally. And yeah, it might it might also speak as of just needed to have a little bit more time with the song. And I think there's stuff that they can work with here. And that if this were to advance, I think it would do. Well, I think it would do. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not that. I'm not excited about this one. It's just yeah. I I would not object. If this is something I think would do they wouldn't need to modify the staging a bunch. You know, it's like backing vocalists or somewhere the structure with various diaphanous sheets hanging from it big win, the she behind that they ever go. Yes. They will be the twenty nineteen curtain monsters. Okay. So next in the running order is Malou priests. And I do me. And this one's leered for me. Because I really like it. Also don't want it to win. Oh, like, I like it. But it doesn't feel like a Eurovision song to me. It feels like this is this is something that should be popping up on pop justices Friday songs list for me when they're keeping track of what's going on in Swedish, pop and UK pop all those things as like emerging artists should be paying attention rather. Because the song is great. And it feels feels very twain. But doesn't feel Euro-Asian. I'm glad you said that because that was kind of what my notes where where it's like. Yeah. This has kind of Bieber curly. Great ships in energy behind it. So I don't know very Canadian. But there's still that little little ace wilder mix in there. But yeah, like the studio track is a lot of fun. It's fun. Yeah. But then like seeing it performed on stage like the level of production in the studio track is just not going to translate to the stage. And it just kind of loses some of that sparkle. I do love the wardrobe. Yeah. The bright yellow kind of reference. Saying clueless. Yeah. Yes. Feels very fresh. Yeah. It's a very it's a very fun vibe. But yeah, it doesn't feel very Eurovision e. Yeah. All this just feels like feels like a very standard Swedish pop track. And that's great. And I love it. I don't want to win. I don't see it as something that would I think it would be very confusing among a whole bunch of other Eurovision entries, which I mean that could work to its advantage. If it were to win, but it would just be confusing. Is like this is this has been the one that I I figure it was going to have to fight for its way through a Johnson was very pleased that made it to the finals directly. And then I've been waiting for the studio the studio traffic because like I will this is this is the sort of pop. I look for like, but the more I listen to the mic. Yeah. No. I don't want this to like the song want to win. All right. So the next one will talk about is John Lund Vic with too late for love. And curious what you think about this one because I have thoughts. I like like I've. Like, I said I have like three favorites. I think if any of them go be happy. This is the one I think is my current favorite of the three. Okay. I like I like the the general vibe of the song. I like the gospel feel the backing singers. Also, just as as somebody who just thinks about this in terms of the whole competition. John Lynn vet co wrote the UK entry, and like that one's finding actually has been growing on me. But like it's clearly member somebody with John loan Vic like voice, and I think if I have to compare to like this one blows it out the water. I like it a lot. I think it had. It has a good field. I don't love it in the idea of the visual of Sweden, sending another solo male singer for like the third fourth year in a row. Yeah. I mean that that's part of what my issue is the other part is that this really feels like an uptempo version of Austria, which did well, which did well, but it's also what Austria sent last year. So. Yeah. It's I like I like this song a lot as well. And Austria's entry. Yes, you're too. It's just I'm. Yeah. And I guess also just coming since Austria caught everybody by surprise. I think. Yeah. I think it is kind of a continuation of the I don't know this could be sweet and going. Oh, wow. People really like that lives here. Here's more of that. Right. And we meet it. Yeah. Yeah. So. This could be like the science. I liked from the performance though. Even though it is one solo singer is that the backing singers are visible on stage. Yeah. Is Sweden Sweden? I love them. But they do this thing where like you don't see all the backing vocals, and I like seeing how this office. I like, knowing here's all the people who made this happen life. Yeah. And and like they're part of the performance, not just visible personality personality. They're part of it. Yeah. And that that's been a trend this year among the national finals, which I've really enjoyed. We'll get into it now 'cause we should Mel fast, but a topic later. Okay. So next up is with toria as not with me. So I really liked to Tori, two years ago. I was hoping that was going to sneak in instead of Robin beckstrom just 'cause it was like a weird country twists from your vision. I hadn't heard I also really like Turia. I think she sings the song. Very well. I don't like the saw. And I think it just feels like a paint by numbers, Christina Aguilera. Feels like something gets stuck light like VH one divas live. Yeah. And I mean, it it's suits her voice. Well, but I loved her entry save me. And I would love for something. Like that to be. Yes, I I really wanna see her on the stage. I'm not sure I wanna see her with this one. Although I do like what they did with the staging on this the water feel. Yeah. Feels appropriately dramatic for the soggy. Like, I was a little disappointed when I realize that this is going to be like more of a ballad tempo than something. Like, save me. But yeah, I was a little supplanted win. This was going to be a slower tempo. But I was very impressed by her voice. Yeah. Yeah. And I would I would love to see her at your vision. I won't be surprised if this is what gets her there late this this one particularly with the whole rain affect seems to be really resonating with full. Visit the is like my my top three right now. I think in fate SEO I will say that for the end. Well, let's get to the end. Then. The last entry that will be competing at the final will be Arvin garner with I do. Okay. So as illegal weird way to lead off. I have a weird like I have a good chunk of the Wikipedia page for this bay ban. Like stuck with me for some reason? Okay. Okay. So urban garner has represented Sweden before I wanna see back in ninety one or ninety three. They are like such a dance band sort of like there's this whole genre. That if you go to the Wikipedia page, it's very unhelpful. And just tells you it's the ban that does dancehall music. Yes. I know that the word is structured that way of anyway. So Arvin Garm on actually means the Air's because they are all children of parents that had been in dance hall bands. Okay. Interesting. But again like they've they represent Sweden in the nineties early nineties goof and came in seventh and I kind of like for the song that feels similar to this one. But maybe a little let this reminded me of the four seasons and like and like other kind of like Motown things that were going on in the sixties. Although. Bring things back to stereo. I've been listening to a bunch of that stuff as they've gone through things. Right. We're I liked the song. I don't necessarily see it winning. But I like seeing it in diversity of the competition in the final two showing a range of and that that is interesting to hear a little bit about their history with it just because there always seems to be at least one or two entries national finals every year. That are like the throwback group were I guess there was an entire series. It felt like every week where we had like there was like a particular range of older performers movement. The did not do. Well, they are. They're all they were usually they were usually placing sixth in like with like the weird competition. Yes. But not even just the like older more veteran performers, but like people are just going to be like, oh, I'm going to be doing big like a big band era song early publisehd German entry kiss kiss bang bang, where it's just like, oh, this is no. We we are not bringing back swing dancing Cleese. Have you did that once the nineties? It was enough. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, this this feels authentic for them. I mean, it's like you can tell it like this is their style. They're very good at what they do. It's still feels like something that you would see on a PDF pledge drier. And yes, yeah. And just being like. Log in the audience like it's I hide my head. See that each because do their one song because they all had one song. And it's the people clapping in the because they recognize the song. Yeah. And and it's great. And again, like like, it feels very authentic for them. I see it placing like middle to low middle depending on how the scoring system shakes things up this year. Yeah. But I think it's it's very competent like like it. I don't know vocal group that has the locals to this earth thing. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, the fact that they've been to your vision before having that kind of experience, I think we'll help they're staging was doing and it was. Yeah. It was a way where because I feel like last year we had a we had a group of Ruslan's or the things to be sort of making making this style of music kind of a joke. Doing the joke version of that in this field like the version, and they're showing that no it's not like these weird, silver, shiny stuff. Like firing. On all cylinders like you can do this in a way that still feels fills fresh bright. All right. So that those are the twelve trees, so I will I have my top three right now. What would you say are your top particular mile might for some reason, I did not come prepared with that with that information in mind? But like I said like, Victoria and she sings the song. Well, and even though I don't particularly like the song. Like, I think the performance will carry that through. So these are not in any particular order. So I in terms of what would be best for Sweden at your vision. I'm gonna go with Victoria, John Lund, Vic and yon fielding. Okay. Yeah. I feel okay with us. Okay. Final answer. Okay. Cool to see which ones pick. But you got two three. Okay. All right. The ones that I the I I sort of that we were talking about with toria that I have three where I think, however, the judging works out it's one of those three I'll be fine with it. Although in order by which I think I would prefer John Lewis Vic. Had a firm Lee MU and then with toria. Okay. And then maybe stick John hinder while Grammarian like fourth because I think it's cool that he is focusing on bringing Sally even though I don't like this one. I think that this one is not the one to bring it to to your visionless. Well, I mean, as you know, I will give bonus points for things that are not an English. Yeah. I I would say that Hannah lead move would be probably my number for that one. I think just because Sweden hasn't sent anything ages rights would be would be particularly nice. I can see that song doing well with lots of audiences same John Lindberg because as we kinda pointed out this a lot of what Australia. Did right Ostra did very well if it's still something that is really working for people. Like, absolutely. Yeah. So it should be good final. At least at least when he gets to the the scoreboard part of it. Because it's gonna be tight race. I think yeah. I like watching the. Scoreboard is always exciting. Because like I'm so glad they brought what your vision as a whole of making the scoring interesting. Yes. So I think that has not changed. I think it'll be very interesting. If he what Sweden ends of sending interesting to see how the world receives that in. Hopefully, we will not have like another on bergenthal on our hands where they don't make the final that would be so sad if Anna Attleboro. That we just threw that out into the universe. You're so sorry. I might I might this. That's gonna do it for this episode of the euro, what thank you for listening. The euro podcast is hosted by that Smith, that's me and Mike that's me. You can find us on our website at your what dot com and on Twitter Facebook Instagram at your what you'd like to contact by Email. We can be reached at ESE else's on TV. We'd love to hear your questions and comments. You can subscribe to the euro on apple podcast, Google podcast, fodder Feis, Stitcher podcast of your choice. So many places reading and reviewing our podcast. Subscribe also hopes other Eurasian things more easily word of mouth is still way to get few hoops to listen. So please be sure about. We'll be back next week to try and make sense of what's new in Eurovision.

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You need to replace your headset and you can't get you can't get it ordered so you're doing a good job. They can make him do but for those of you here on Youtube that are that can see the screen. You can see that. It's not different than I. We also have someone else joining us yet again. We have Kevin Smith also known as the form. The writer formerly known as cliff. Heiresses still a punk joining us tonight for a very special topic. How's it going? Hey Don great barricade myself for my kids here in the house. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA have a good chat all right well first things first for those of you. If you didn't catch it last week. Kevin had a really nice article about basically life beyond football. And everything else going on and something that you mentioned in that article that I wanted to ask you about because I know it was. We weren't sure we didn't know for sure if you'd be able to join US tonight because of the situation with your son. Can you give us an update on how everything and how he's doing? So yes my my son's a student at George Washington University. He was doing a semester abroad in Botswana. You know he was recalled. Like kids all over. The planet have been recalled from those programs and We had a hard time extracting. Let's put it that way. He he actually went to the airport on Saturday night and he be landing. Jfk Airport. Any minute now I mean. He's Gone Botswana. Two Days in the airport in Johannesburg fluted Dubai Boston now now New York City. So we're just. We're just happy to get him home. You go all in with kids. All over the country I work in higher. Ed and just try to help a couple of guys this week from Congo work that they were trying to get to reunion. Which is a small French island off the east side? Madagascar yeah I mean so there or some- they're they're trying to get to their from all they're trying to get to there from here. Okay so couple. Guys play my basketball team and they were. They decided time to get home. The is uncharted waters man. I'm just you know nothing like this in my lifetime. I'm sure same trip you guys. Yep Yeah So. The great news is when I talked you earlier or or texted with earlier. Is that when you said he was in the country? Yeah because that was probably the biggest step. You're like well. He's in Boston. I'm like well. It's a long drive but worst case scenario. Go get him from Boston. His luggage is in Dubai. That's never we're going to see that again. But he's here which is good well if anything was left to do by. That's probably the least. His luggage didn't show up. I guess the opposite of that would be the worst case. Scenario is he's a twenty one year old dudes. I'm sure his clothes were not in the best shape after two months in. Yeah I guess how long just just to just to know. How long was he there before he had come home? Two months he he had two more to go so well so well. We're we're just grateful that that I mean. He's part of the extended family as part of the family. So we're just glad to hear good news like that so okay before we dive into the topic. Let's let's just check in on some news. Thank goodness it's calmed down a little bit. There's been a lot that's happened since rich and I were on a show last week. One of which is going to be the topic of the show tonight but various various other things. It's funny because I was realistic to our show from last week today and it was very odd. How some of the some of the stuff. We were saying this kind of exactly what happened. Yup Rich was saying about you. Know yet could could use another interior offensive lineman on the team. There was if we could get a good beside keeping what are we do? We got a decent guy on the we. Yeah that's what we said you like. I could see Kevin Colbert working on trying to find a good deal for good linemen. And that's exactly what he did and then I said I felt that of all the players. The steelers still still had from last season. That weren't on the team. If they were going to bring back anyone it was going to be Jordan danger field and they signed him to a very team friendly contract. I can't say for sure. It's the exact minimum of what it would be for somewhat his years of service. But it's it's it's under a million dollars so that's good just to update everyone a little bit. Because this is the stat geek show when we get and do numbers. There's been some reports about the steelers and the salary cap if you go and check on over the Cap Dot Com right now. They have the steelers in almost exactly ten million dollars under the CAP. But what you need to remember is that it doesn't have to things taken into consideration the contract of Eric Ibrahim which we talk about a little bit and the and the contract from the trade for Chris warmly. So that's going to be at most eight million between the two and probably more around six. They're still under the cap but not a whole lot. Steelers are looking good. When it comes to compensatory draft picks we still don't know already Burns's total for his contract if it will qualify or not. It's got to be more than two and a half million dollars. Approximately in order to qualify into that like was newsies did not that was a great signing for the steelers. It wasn't even enough to start to hurt them in compact but right now they're set up for three. They have a net loss of three so the steelers could still sign a couple of people if they had the money and the right guys come along even if they did qualify they'd still be in line for complex for twenty twenty one which is nice. So that's enough the geeky stuff. We have Kevin here for a reason because he's got an article coming out tomorrow. It's I really enjoyed it. I I the deputy editor I can go in and read anything anyone's looking on so we're GONNA be talking about the the steelers news tight end Eric. Braun and Kevin. Why do we have you on here to talk about Eric brought? I've been fortunate to get to know work fairly well over the last couple of years. A kind of a cool connection to the high school where I coach are we at a guy train. Our kids for a few years gun in John Porter. Who'S A great trainer? John's got a bunch of pro clients and Eric's wanted his clients and so every July for about the last four five years. Eric and some guys from the Eagles Jason Kelsey Vinny Curry couple of other guys were out of the League. Now they would. They'll come down and and they work out with us our schools right when I say right on the Beach. I mean it's right on the beach like Like in Hurricane Sandy Twenty twelve. We actually had waves roll in indoor end zone. I mean that's how that's how close we are to the beach so early. You're right on the beach. Yeah like it's East endzone fence parking lot beach you know. So so they got. They go down on the beach and a lot of their training in the sand. And it's really cool to have our kids be able to to work with Dan. We've done fieldwork with those guys and an Arab. I mean he's been great man. He's been so accommodating to our kids jokes around with Participate in drill work just shares his insights with them. So I mean it was really cool to see him. Sign with the steelers and you know for us to have that connection. That's that's fantastic. I know this was assigning. You were hoping that the steelers would make a while ago but you didn't know if there was something they'd be able to pull off. Yeah I mean you know regardless of who it was. I was personally hoping it would be Eric for you. Know for the personal connection but more. So because he's the he's the the prototype that I know we've been trying to land for a while you know we look at it back with with Madari screen in two thousand sixteen and I think that they see kind of Zach gentry in that role a little bit That athletic what we sometimes call moves tight end other teams for other teams. That are a little more. Physical guys is h back but for us. It's a move tight end. Who Constructs the field vertically? I mean that's really the big thing man if we if we can run more twelve personnel with McDonald as strong tight end. Who can set the edge in the you know as a blocker and who can run more a little more the underneath stuff and getting the ball quick. Because he's a good runner with the ball in his hands and Iran. Kind of take the top off of coverage whether that be spring him deep and play action or pull knows backers out of there so that guys like June. The Andre Johnson can operate underneath I just think he opens up. So much of the offense that that he's he's an ingredient we'd been missing for Awhile now and I think that he's going to make life a lot easier for us on offense so so rich when you heard about the signing. What was your first thoughts? I thought it was a good signing Didn't didn't blow the bank but we did have the pain heads paint. But we didn't have to overpay concern. I have this health false. He stays on the field. He makes us a much better team. Yeah I'm on a surprise that they got him for the price of did. I know that he was a name. That was that steelers fans of people in the live. Chat and people on the website had thrown out. That they'd really like to see him. I just never thought that the steelers could get get him for the price. They did now when we speak a price. I WANNA bring this up. Because part of the reason. He's not counting against the steelers salary. Cap Right now is. He's officially not signed. He has he's committed the steelers but the reason he's he's technically not signed with the steelers is because of everything going on with our country and the physical that he needs to have their really insisting on this because he he missed the last five games of the season last year ankle surgery. So I mean most places have more realistic as a Pittsburgh steeler. It's really just a formality for for this to go through. It would have to be something really big and shocking to to make this back off but because of that. We don't have the financials of this deal. We know it's for two years twelve million dollars but until we get the actual breakdown. We don't know how much you count against the salary cap this year. I guess I've put it out there. I put it in a couple of articles and some various places. No one thinks I'm absolutely crazy. I think just around numbers off that he's going to be about a one million base contract for this year. I'm giving. I'm assuming they gave him probably like a six million dollar signing bonus that means half is that's guaranteed money right there so out of his twelve million haven't six of guaranteed give him that signing bonus and then he'd have a five million base for next year which would put him paid seven. This year paid five next year but for the salary cap it would be four this year and eight next year. Now it could be a little bit it might not be that much of a signing bonus they might have bumped that down it might only be a four million dollar signing bonus with two million base and a six million. You know what I'm saying. It could be various different numbers. But that's what I'm looking at and I'm like if if that's low was a four million dollar cap hit. That's pretty good for this year. Wouldn't you think so Kevin? They got that I I mean we kept saying on the show a lot rich and I would always answer especially before there was a new. Cba We would say with with what money kept saying. Because I mean the steelers cleared over twenty three million dollars cap space and restructures that they would have gotten made four million out of that if the thirty percent worldwide still but in some of these contracts that couldn't be renegotiated at all are not reading. You're not reading negotiate restructured. I'm using the wrong word wrong. Our word so that was our biggest thing is the cap it. I mean. It's possible that he's only a four million dollar cap at this year. I mean just just an estimate it. Did you think the Hebron was a guy that the steelers could get? That would only cost that much. Gap is here. I didn't you know kind of poked but then a couple of things worked in our favor. One being you never take the corona virus works in our favor. Because that's terrible expected. That will be taken the wrong way but not being not being able to have people check him out in person probably restricted. You know the number of Souder said he was going to get I mean. I read something similar about Cam. Newton Panthers ended up releasing him because they couldn't find a trade partner because people were so worried about his health and not having a chance to see him personally so that probably worked a little bit our favor we had to have incentivize them in in that contract with money upfront. You're saying I mean why would he? Why would he accepted if if there wasn't a an additional carrot because it seems like the Patriots who I mean? I just figured he's there snapping him because they're you know they love tight ends and they always seem to be able to to bring a guy in who you know. Maybe he has had an issue or two in some other places and you know get him you know on their on the Patriot way as they call it or whatever I just thought. Oh He's going to land there because they need a shot to their offense so I don't know again I don't know what we incentivized him with. But I'm sure that it was something that was pretty convincing. I think he's obviously smart enough to understand that his he was at his best in his career when he played with Andrew Luck. Luck Zola's reminded me of a younger. Ben Rothlisberger. I think that there's probably just the opportunity with Ben was was enticing for him as well. Plant based is here to stay. We've got plant based milk. We've got plant based meat and now plant based butter is becoming a thing. That's why we're excited about new country. Crock plant butter. It's dairy free and plant based but it tastes like dairy butter not to mention the plant. Butter sticks cook and bake like dairy butter to. It's twenty five percent less saturated fat and the production of plant butter results in less than half the carbon footprint of dairy butter. Use it wherever you'd use dairy butter your top secret chocolate chip cookie. Recipe your morning toast. Any butter delivery system will do. And you've got a treat that's better for both you and the planet try it today. Find a store near you at country. Crock DOT com slash plant dash butter and see what all the plant based hype is about. I mean right now you can grab them up but who's going to throw in the ball up there. They don't even know so rich. And what do you think about? The numbers the financials good yeah number should nice a rather instead of four eight. That almost like the more five seven because we could. We could put another million this year. Don't want it to be too big hit next year but ninety dollars this has been the year of. Let's not worry about the hit for next year. I mean my goodness right now Ben. Rothlisberger is forty one point five million and I know people say there's going to be a big cap jumped next year but remember if they add that seventeenth gave next year. Every salary is going to base our is going up by one seventeenth. And that's GonNa that's GONNA add up there too so a lot of different factors so so I think you're exactly right Kevin about how believe it or not. The way they're having to conduct business right now was helpful because it is hurting those players that there might be injury concerns that that they can't do teams can't be do their due diligence right now about those players and see if they're if they're injured and the I guess the steelers you've kind of more or less took the flyer on it but he still got past the physical but from my understanding is is that is that he should be okay anything. What specifically about his game do you do you like the most? And what is your biggest concern with? Lebron's of what he brings to the steelers as to what I like. The most is just how explosives for his size and he's six five to fifty. He's every bit of it but he's not. He's not an inland player. You know nobody's bringing them anywhere block. I mean he's not Gonna. Knock your socks off as a blocker but a six five to fifty guy will play off. The ball is pretty rare. Goal in twelve personnel too tight end packages as an off the ball guy that they can move around and like one thing. I highlighted in article is coming out tomorrow when he gets a free. Release off the off the ball. I mean you can't cover them down the field. I mean if he gets a free release and he can he can get those first three or four steps in the ground without contact and he's going to eat a cushion immediately and now you're going to get them on second level third level with a smaller guy especially when it gets to those safeties and the match of nightmare for teams. You know like when when you gotta be able to contact the line of scrimmage. I was just telling a little anecdote in the article that I wrote about. He was throwing with one of our high school quarterbacks one day and he was running fifteen yard dig patterns which is just a fifteen yard in and he told our quarterback to take seven step drop in and hit him right off. The seventh step by the time or quarterback got his seventh step. He was already out of his break in half way across the meal the field and he when he caught the ball all the way over near the opposite Hash and he came back to the huddle and he told our quarterback and you. You just got the ear hole by safety you. You gotta get a lot quicker that you know so he needs a faster seven steps yes. What he was saying was like you know. I'm going to get down the field in a hurry. And it gave me appreciation for how. How fast pro quarterback gets to the back of their drop but it will also watch him gobble up just taking those big strides in Gob yardage. So teams are going to have to get his face in some way shape or form and that creates another problem for defensive. Your if you gotta walk a backer out on him or a safety down to make sure your jamming. Who met the line of Scrimmage If you're a zone team now you're you're you got a guy who's going to be late getting into zone as good as Roethlisberger's recognizing coverage is he'll he'll see that stuff and you'll have voided zones and you'll have opportunities now for for other receivers so as much as I like him in offense and what he can do. I like what he potentially open up for other guys just as much. Yeah I would report to see the see him setup in in trip formations. We did run a lot of trip for Mason's last year among the him outside like they used to do with heat sometimes get him out there as part of that bunch and then let guys you know cut off and pick is off each other because you got a guy that can move and catch your stretch. The feel like he can. You don't know where any of those guys are going to. Have you put e Brown who six five to fifty and Juju. Who's a physical guy up in a in a bunch with Johnson? Who has we know it was a quick twitch guy and runs really good routes now you got all sorts of possibilities for for free in Johnson up those those compress formations are really nice when you have physical guys you can quit. God's Yup what what I wanted to do real quick since we're about the twenty minute mark of the show was just those people joining late just to say that might not have caught. The last time he was on. This is Kevin Smith. He's a writer for by the so curtain DOT COM. He is the writer for notice. Cliff Harris is still a punk. Who's coming in and giving us some some inside information? He actually knows Eric Brown. He's he's worked with them He. He sometimes trains with Kevin's players. Because Kevin's a high school football coach in the summer. So he's just giving us some insight there and he's got a great article coming out tomorrow. So you gotTa make sure you check the website for that article. I what I like is players that you can do different things I like. I like when they when the steelers make you think you're GonNa do one thing and then do something else. And there's there's a specific play from the year before last. I loved to talk about when they had when they were the they used. Roosevelt Mix James Connor and and they had two tight ends and a be all on the field and they went empty they went empty set and the way they spread people around and they actually got Xavier Grumble Wide Open with nobody guarding him on one side of the field all by himself because they caught him in a bad defensively. Couldn't defend it. I like guys. Like Abraham because although he's not known as a blocker you can't say that if when he's on the field they're definitely passing if they're not going to to run the ball so once again man wouldn't it be nice to see Vance McDonald. Eric Broaderrick Watt on the field together. And once again using it as a as a passing formation where the team thinks they're going to have to bring in run personnel. Maybe maybe exploit something that way. I JUST WANNA see I. I look forward to see how they're going to use it. My biggest thing. I'm Brian Anthony. Davis is doing a an an article series of grading all the steelers acquisitions. He asks us for grades. Kevin's would give him his grades. I've been given a great one of the lower grades on this one because I think I speak it. I think this has the potential steelers biggest free agent signing. He has great potential to do fantastic things. But that's the same thing we heard. I know some people say that last year about a certain wide receiver came from the colts. But the other thing is like you are already mentioned back in two thousand sixteen when you sign a tight end for twenty million dollars over four years and he plays a total of six games screen. That's still kind of he was supposed to come in and be that different tight end at steelers fans we're looking for and he and he just never could get on the field. He was on up through through eight weeks of the season and then he couldn't finish the season so I don't think there's anything personal about Ibrahim himself but you look at it it's kind of a flashy signing when you think about it because it's a name people know but at the same time they got it. I still feel a pretty good price. But there's a lot of notes one one thing that people have brought up at the past and I really want to know your thoughts on this. Kevin is some people. Say there's some character issues there and he's argumentative and not the best guy in the locker room or anything like that. If there's anybody we can ask that would possibly know about this other than someone that's in an NFL locker room. You're you're the only person that could not back up and put because that's exactly what West was asking in the live chat was that I haven't even looked at the live chat all night keeping you asking that question. I saw thank you wess all right so so is there any I mean? Do you see any red flags that you've heard of or I mean not even that you have to go for your personal went from your personal contact. Just what are your thoughts on that on that in general sure sure I wanNa make sure backup and address one of the things that you you just said about versatility. But Yeah About Eric. I would tell you this man. He's a goofy guy like he's He's got a quirky sense of humor. A key jokes around a lot like a little bit of a prankster and I could see how in in a different and that's going to depend on the environment that he's in if you're in you're in a really sort of tight environment where where it's it's all business and you got really really serious guys around you all the time. They could definitely take that the wrong way. Like this guy doesn't care as much he's happy. Go lucky you know he laughs a lot. He tells a lot of stories. I mean he definitely wants the ball in his hands. There's no doubt about that like I said before. He he'll be the first to tell you. Bring me here to block but I mean I think he's the sort of I'll be very interested to see how steelers fans reacted him. Because I'm not saying that Detroit and Indianapolis fans aren't passionate about football teams but they're not passionate like steelers fans. I mean you know steelers fans treat this like religion so I mean it's it's And they expect our football players to to to treat it the same way and I'm not saying that are doesn't care. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that he's a guy that likes to have fun and he likes to likes to laugh and likes to joke around and if he's playing great that'll never be a problem you know but but I can see how if if he's not then people are going to say. Oh He's not committed. He's not serious this or that. So sometimes you just forget about the personalities that you have to bring fifty three individuals from different backgrounds culturally socio-economically whatever into a locker room. That's where I think this is going to really be interesting. C. T. like Tom. I think Mike Tomlin's the connick guy who can can get the most out of a guy like argue bomb. I think he will know how to handle them. I think that you know have a decent idea how to relate. They're actually not that kind of from the same area a little bit. I mean e- bronze from northern North Carolina So I can see this as being like a Mike. Tomlin taking him under his wing and trying to make that that he tightens everything up kind of situation. That's a really good point. That's a very good point about that. So rich anything you want to throw in there before I circle back to Kevin Circle back of because you you said you wanted to to make sure we touch on the versatility thing that I brought up. Yeah one thing about the Darius screen. Is this granite. Yeah he only played six games but In his six games that he played rothlisberger targeted him over six times a game and he averaged almost seventeen yards a catch in those six games. I mean McDonald's only been targeted about four times. A game and Jesse James was targeted less than three times a game. I think if you give Ben Rothlisberger a guy who can get vertical. Then he'll throw him the football. I mean He. He doesn't like to check the ball down. I mean he he a lot of that stuff to levy on bell because Belle a great receiver. But you don't you. He wants to push the ball down the field or he wants to hit receivers that are on the move and I think he's really gone appreciate having another moves tight end like we thought we all thought we had in green In in terms of that versatility that you were talking about man to double tight empty. That is. That's a nightmare of set for defenses. If you can go double tight empty and because you're forcing a defense to play too high. They have to play too high unless they WANNA go man to man and just bring the house after the quarterback but rothlisburger good against against the blitz. And if you'RE GONNA go to high with with two tight ends on the field you got all sorts of matchup problems underneath and the other thing you mentioned is is there what I mean. I think that's fascinating now. That have watt and Ibran because of the position versatility that that brings I mean what complacent tight end and the chargers. Actually they liked him tight end in the limited snaps that he got. They're kind of like an H. Back right yeah so I mean you might see you might see sets where McDonald what you know McDonalds. You're strong tight. End Waters Your fullback and then Hebron split wider in the slot would you Johnson? And that's you got some you've got some you got run strength and pass strength on the field at the same time and that creates problems for defenses. They gotta make a decision you can't you can't defend at all exactly like last year. Every time we saw seventy two eligible we knew that there was a ninety eight percent chance they were going to be running the ball. So that's just what they did so. Hopefully that won't be the case this year. You brought up a really good point. And I didn't even think about that. And you're right because Larry screen had thirty four targets in his six games thirty four targets in six games. Now he had eighteen receptions from that and you only had one touchdown as a steeler. But but that's that's interesting. Some people are questioning because Yvonne had a fantastic year in two thousand eighteen. And then a drop off in two thousand nineteen. I have my own theory. I want to ask you guys. If you have any thoughts about that before I throw by theory out there rich do you want to do you have anything much? Do you have any thoughts about that before we let Kevin Saving Bart with Kevin Kevin? I don't think he was healthy. I mean last year was the first summer in fight since he pro. So what's that two thousand fourteen? So that was the first summer. He didn't come down to the beach to train with us because he was rehabbing an injury so he was so he was rehabbing an injury in the summer. Which means you probably wasn't quite one hundred percent. When the season starts and then he gets hurt during the year and then. Kinda had a dispute with the colts about how to handle that going forward so you know I mean and then obviously would look retiring. I mean when we for Tara August you know like how much how we think. We had a difficult quarterback situation. I mean imagine now granted. They had a more competent backup. Jacoby percent yes so it is really hard to like rebuild. Your offense around the the next guy on the fly like that so close to the season. I don't know what kind of chemistry Iran perset. Maybe it wasn't so great combined that with health issues and and you know I think I'm not trying to make excuses but I think at the same time you can understand a little bit for the drop off and you want to throw enrich you gonNA reiterate what West put out chet. Wait a minute what you put in less he. I think Getting to see Eric. The biggest thing I think is gonNA play a part for Hebron is not just how he is doing health wise and in his play on the field but Ben Rothlisberger says well. Does Ben Come back from his elbow issue? If we get the Ben were used to and we get yeah. I'm not so worried I I think I think it goes great and ends up being a you know a good move for us. Yeah I I'm not super concerned about the drop off in two thousand eighteen and here not lie here. Here's here's the biggest thing and Kevin. Let's let's see if you agree with this Jack. Doyle that's the number that's the number one tight end for the colts to art and in two thousand eighteen. Two Thousand Seventeen Jack. Doyle was a pro bowler two thousand eighteen. Jackdaw got hurt. He only played in six games. There's an Eric. Braun had thirteen touchdowns playing in Sixteen Games. So he kind of benefited. Because I mean granted when you combine the numbers of Doyle and Ibran in two thousand eighteen thousand nine hundred two thousand nine hundred less. I think that has to do a lot a lot with quarterback play but in two thousand eighteen when you had the good quarterback and he was the option more than doyle Hebron was the pro bowler. Yeah but then last year. Guess what Jack. Doyle's back played in all sixteen games. And Jack Doyle's a pro bowler in two thousand nineteen and Brown Saul Saul. His numbers dropped because of injury and because of another tight end. I don't know the people realized that so much. Is that two thousand eighteen. He kind of exploded but he was the only guy they had at the time. And he had Andrew Luck Ball and you're and he's not having to split it up really between two tight ends. It's basically all you know wonder if he exploded. I don't expect him to have two thousand eight hundred numbers I mean. He had thirteen touchdowns the the the franchise record for touchdowns in a season by Pittsburgh. Steeler tight end is eight by Heath Miller. I mean you've never seen the steelers. Never seen they were close that as touchdowns from a single tight end in the season so I I could see. There was some discussion because I did an article today of okay. If the if the steelers could make anywhere roster moves including the draft. Who's their starting lineups right now. And I listed McDonald in Hebron and I put an astros there and it just happened to be on. Ibran that I'm like depending on the formation. Whether it'd be you have to tight end or the three wide receivers because I listen. Three of them listed a fullback. It's all depend on the the formation of WHO's on the field. I don't know even between the two tight ends which one I would call a starter. Because if they're GONNA start off coming out and trying to run a ball probably will be McDonald if they're gonNA come out on the first play. Try to spread it out. It's going to be abroad. I don't know that bigness starters that import now it's kind of like sub packages on defense. You can you can exactly you can say that. We're we're three four defense and that we have you know Tavon Was a starter or whatever you want. You know what whichever there's three to it. Whatever but yeah but I mean how many snaps do we play in two four five personnel? You know more than more than half so Yeah I think we're going to have a ton of different personnel packages this year. I think that's one area to where we'll see that Canada's value is that he's he's you know renowned for being able to be multiple on offense and Mixes guys so. Yeah I think he Lebron's Garland no too. I mean that he's coming into a situation where he can. He can expect to get thirteen touchdowns thousand yards. He knows he's going to split time McDonnell. He knows the judge is going to be you know. Probably the man in terms of most receptions so I mean if he if he doesn't know that then he's missing. He's missing the boat so this episode is brought to you by. Hp HP knows that small businesses can struggle to find a balance between reaching a broad audience and building enduring customer relationships but HP is here to help. Hp HAS DESIGNED PRINTERS. That can help your small business. Stand out from the crowd with the new. Officejet pro printers. You can print professional quality brochures presentations and more straight from your office without ever meeting printshop and with HP instant ain't printing costs less you can save fifty percent on Inc for your small business with the instinct. Three hundred page plan. You can print anything you want from color presentations to business documents and every page cost the same you'll save up to six hundred dollars a year on original HP INC delivered automatically so you never have to buy cartridges again visit HP DOT com slash. Get Real to learn more about the. Hp officejet pro printer and HP instant INC that's HP DOT com slash. Get Real. Yeah I mean he's just he's GonNa bring something that the steelers haven't had so and I never even thought about it 'til you sat it. I Mike Tomlin might be the right head coach for someone like him. I don't think that it's going to be too much all serious and business. That people might taken the wrong way. I mean look. The team has Juju Smith Schuster Zach. Banner I mean you. Just tell my those guys personality that they're goof-balls so he might fit in very well with with those kind of guys so anything else you WANNA. We're going to wrap up the show. We are doing two shows tonight. I don't know the Kevin can stick around. He's got a lot of family stuff going on. We're just glad you could come in for the Ibran Talk. We're going to talk more about the rest of the steelers roster in the show after this but is there anything you'd like to say here to Kinda summit all up Kevin? Well I'll just address one more thing. Okay he's GonNa drop passes and I'm Joe. Curtains GonNa go nuts. There's going to be posted more about this dude can't catch he's a bust but I mean for what he gives us and for how he opens up the offense and again not just for. I don't think we're going to be able to evaluate Hebron by his stats alone. I think we're going to be able to evaluate him. Also based on the opportunities he opens up for other guys especially in the middle of the field and his ability to draw linebackers out of coverage the poll safeties with them and opened up. Space for other guys is going to be huge and then the the area that. I really think that will see him. especially valuables in the red zone. When you start looking at his film and you know and als- down inside the ten yard line. I mean who's covering them. You know like when teams go to the go to man. They WANNA play zone down there. I mean Benz great again zone. If they're gonNA play you a man who's covering them you know like you watch at twenty eighteen film and look at how many he had nine red zone touchdowns that year led the the NFL Red Zone touchdowns and a lot of them are just jump balls because he's six four and he can jump out of the building so as long as ankles good. Yeah then that's the other thing man. There's there's a big Asterik with him and that's probably why a lot of people rightly so are a little skeptical when you know when they when they think about the signing because the if it's Hilarious greenstreet point Oh it's GonNa be a big disappointment. Hey as long actually dropping balls a hope and he's dropping the balls that everybody forgets about because at times didn't math catch the big cat. Yeah show up big in the big spot if he hears up big in the big spots I can handle a drop here and that's GonNa Fall in love with him right like Donald Macdonald Lebron's got a career. Catch percentage of about sixty to sixty percent and McDonald's is slightly less. He's around sixty one something. So they're about the same. But and that was the Nakal McDonnell company our jobs all these balls but main name probably can't do it on top of your head but I can't think of any ball. Donald dropped in a huge situation. That was really costly so here. Prime Example Juju Smith Schuster has to career fumbles. Yeah we're remember them both we we remember he's known as a fumble because of because of the key game changing situations at which they happened. So that's what that's what. Ibran if he's GonNa drop passes. That's exactly what I think Richard saying. If you to go drop passes you can't dropped. You can't drop the passes like the balls. Juju FUMBLES US. You know one. I've you brought it up if Juju Catchy Juju has thirteen more receptions. Without fumbling a football he becomes the all-time Pittsburgh steelers least likely to fumble receiver with more than two hundred catches. He's already got into our catches. He just needs that many more to to break. I think it was Yancey. Thigpen who only had two fumbles to. Then he would move to more receptions so he's really good at not from the football but that's not what we remember. And that's a great point about Iran. I have two quick questions. I WanNa ask you guys the. Let's go through some I other than Eric Hebron if he is just on the field and like you say that the city is having to pay attention to all that other stuff. What other steeler is going to benefit the most from Abraham being on the field? We'll start with Kevin. It all depends on how how they wanNA use them but again I think he benefits. Those guys that are operating underneath is a Deontay. Johnson is it. Is it in two tight. End Sets isn't MacDonald MacDonald. Now become the crosser the guy who runs those stick routes over the ball. I mean I've always loved Juju across her because he's so big and he's and he's physical with the football by the way that was that was really next level stack. Eek stuff on that That's that you just pulled on Juju. They're pretty good so it's what I do so so. Yeah I mean I don't know who specifically but I have a feeling where that where is going to be just I think we couldn't live in the middle of the field. Last our quarterbacks could not read the middle of the field and then does it wonderfully and now Iran is going to give us more of an opportunity to operate their rich any thoughts on that someone who would benefit from. I'm the home and take the cupboard people I think just adding another real competent receiver that they've got to worry about the secondary helps. Ju Ju yeah that's what I was thinking right off the bat. But I like what Devon Snowden said in the live chat about Ben Rothlisberger just another weapon throat. Yeah I mean. I think that's the obvious. Answer to someone like Jew or the Audio Johnson. I think that's that's really good. As long as they scheme it. Well they just got. It gives you something else to scheme with. And that's what it seems like. The steelers were missing last year. This is the last thing for fun and that is we're going to grade. We'RE GONNA agree this free agent but we're not going to great it the typical way. We're not going to grade it in. Abcd WE'RE NOT GONNA number. We're going to great on a two thousand nineteen scale on a two thousand. Nine hundred. Ninety eight scale is what do you look for broad is he a Steven Nelson signing that. He comes in and then all of a sudden. Wow He's the man is he a mark baron signing which is. Hey someone who came in you know Phil Role? Didn't really needed to move on. You could almost say Johnny Holton interchangeable or is he a Dante mockery signing like even worse than dairy screen. All Man. We're gonNA realize right away that this is this is right for the steelers. So that's your that's your. That's your three ways to grade it. What do you think I? I can't imagine he's going to be a sign again for his got one. Imagine that but I mean I I think a lot of it depends on his health. You know if if he stays healthy he could be Steven Nelson type guy for for the way that he transforms the offense if not it could be a guy that we say after two years you know. Hey you know it just didn't work out exactly the way we thought it would and a lot of that depends on rothlisburger too. I think that those two are linked like like Rick said before you know they're Roethlisberger's health is probably linked to Iraq success in many ways rich. They're well there's two ways you could say this he's I think he's GonNa be you know a barren plus or a Nelson minus income right in between the two somewhere which would be great which which is exactly what we're looking for the foot we went looking for in the signing. We don't need somebody that that blew our socks off as much as Steven Nelson. But I don't want you to become there were times. I felt Barron was out there and doing everything needed into didn't notice them a whole lot. I wanted notice Eric Hebron field. That's a really good way to put it. I feel was a loaded question on loaded it so I'm gonNA give a Dave Answer. I think his I think his floor is mark baron signing with the ceiling being Steven Nelson signing you know that he's going to be somewhere in between if he ends up being something like Mark Barron was. It was kind of a stop gap to something else. It's going to be a little bit disappointing. That's that's GONNA say they're on the low end but he could really come out and you can almost say he's a Steven Nelson because you can't say make a name for himself because he made a name for herself in two thousand eighteen. That's the difference here. That's what people know him. Where Steven Nelson steeler nation didn't even know that was when they made that sighting so I I think it's a big separation there of what it could be so I'm excited to see how it pans out with. Everything Kevin any final thoughts on just life for steelers or anything in general before we let you go. I'm just like everybody else man. I don't know what's next. I'm just ready for things to get back to normal. That may be a little while before that happens. I'm hoping that That this doesn't disrupt you know coming down again and I love the opportunity to talk to them and really you know. Kinda relay some of his thoughts At at and who knows maybe we can get him on the podcast. Any he wants a if he's in the area he makes us down again this summer. I'll definitely hit him up about it. Not See does he know that. You're a steeler fan or anything like that or actually joked around with him. Like man win against the steelers but like but he has no idea that. I can do any of this stuff. So he's got you know. I mean I'm just you know just the local football coach them. So Gotcha Gotcha so we're going to call this a show. Make sure well first of all I got to give the whole spiel. Make sure you stick around for those of you that are with us live on Youtube. We'll be coming back in about five minutes. Definitely Richard. I think Kevin's got to step out to some other things we're GONNA be talking about other other places on the steelers roster. I know you some of Y'all were talking about that in the live chat. 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Episode 77  Transitioning from spectator to motivator with guest Angela Marshall

Power Of The Purse Podcast

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Episode 77 Transitioning from spectator to motivator with guest Angela Marshall

"Welcome to the power of the purse podcast the only show connecting baby boomer women with professional peers advice. You can use to be more confident in your financial future inspiration to take control of your personal finances with Lynn. S Evans certified financial planner good afternoon everyone. My name is Lynn. S Evans and I am the host of power of the purse podcast. There was a time. I'm in my life not too long ago. When I believed three things about money number. One women are not supposed to talk about or being included in any conversations stations about money number. Two women don't have the natural ability to understand anything about money and three men know best how to manage money and those truths I made up about money guided me for years until I realized money was not a foreign language or some other their ups cure academic exercise and it was something I could not only understand but teach to other women too many times. I've heard stories from women who ought to know better but did until they were forced to because of divorce widowhood job loss or the approach of retirement. This podcast will add another chapter to an ongoing informative conversation about financial topics. Women's should be more knowledgeable about my mission is to help women reduce their financial illiteracy and develop a healthy relationship with money with that in mind mind. My guest today is Angela Marshall Angela Marshall also known as author stone at we'll talk about that how she got that name is a native of Augusta Georgia and an entrepreneur and positive words powerhouse. She's also the author of a book called reality. You too rags to riches the story in life of an ex. NFL Wife Welcome Angela Highland. How are You I am well. Thanks and I'm so happy that you you and I are doing this because I was so intrigued by the title of Your Book Because I'm I'm an NFL SAM okay marketing tactic work yet did it did indeed former jets season ticket colder so I can tell you that I I love football and I love the story and I think what's fascinating about to me. Is that the story. Oreo the life of an ex. NFL Wife to me is just so rich in all of the possible experiences you could have had good bad and ugly. I you know we all fantasize I think about the lives of the NFL players and their wives and their families and we look at people like what's her name. I can't find pronouncing it right. Tom Brady and Oh yes gazelle. Yes yes so you look at them when you look at their kids and you look at their lives and it's also glorified died and you just wonder what's really like when he comes home after a day and so I am so interested in what you have to say because it's probably really not the fantasy world that we all think it is and I'm sure it's not so let's just jump right in here and tell the thing I was curious about was a at article and interview. I guess it was that was done on you. By a man named Andre Johnson yes he talked about some of the little snippets that you had to say at one of them was said that you have a personal playbook and one that has one that was accompanied accompanied by the wisdom to call what you referred to as an audible pass and a run which is football talk are some people may not really understand what that means but then he went on to say then you had the proverbial good for the two point conversion as I lived each day so tell me what does that mean into you. What what is it that you did that was so surviving right so basically you know I have sat in the stands asset in bleachers. I've sat in stadiums and domes for the better part of my life and so I was able to watch flays being executed in O- on some flawed and others flawlessly he's and I just Kinda took those football analogy. Take the sports analogies once I decided to get off the bench and getting a game or myself. Those are just things that I just started to make a difference. I guess in my life to help me to be to have like an athletic. I guess putting molly or an athlete's mind set his love athletic mindset. They're so confident. They're so energetic. They are I do or die. They're unstoppable and from that standpoint. I knew who I if I was going to really really live in not just exist like I have been doing for so long that I needed to incorporate this this whole every single day fourteen goals or third one fourth in Long. I'm going forward every single day. I like literally. I would equate different incidents in issues in my life I would you know acquainted to a play and then I just call myself. You know like an athlete in our bisbee executing it to make that I would that I could win. You know that I could win the game. Yeah that's interesting. I love it. I guess you just never think about bringing that discipline that mental discipline into life and using even using the language which I think it's it's great because you are correct. They are so goal oriented and winning oriented standpoint of female. If you not you you know a female athletes. You normally don't utilize sports analogies old from that standpoint. That's why wouldn't you know throughout the book and then I tagged Egged on their the story of an ex. NFL Why just to give it a different possess. I guess if you would or give it a different presence so if you have three speakers offers or three presenters in all are equal in you know credentials what's going to or preferably hopefully what propels me to the top is just being able to have sports analogies that will make people go all right yeah. All I want her to come because I know not on the wishy motivate on among the crowd or or motivate does the attendees those that are in the audience but she's actually propelled them for you know for them to be able to get up and do something with their life not just listen into a to a good speech so altered listen to a good speech that go home and nothing semi different. You don't do anything like this is useless but you know I was preaching to the choir because been there done that so many times and in I will I will tell myself a a little bit. I still will listen to certain motivational videos inspirational videos our read the polls they could be my own personal original course or someone else's instilled there are days when I just kind of drag along or I feel like I always want to be bothered to be bothered and then yeah and then I have to open up that playbook look and say no Angela. Hey it's time it's time to get back in the game and get off the bench. quit being a spectator exactly. I love it so now your play devil's advocate here because I know you and I talked about this previously but there are those who would criticize you and say that you're using your husband's notoriety to propel yourself into a world that you know nothing about so. How do you respond to that. Will I will say this first of all. I was in that lifestyle for quite some time not just from an NFL NFL perspective like I actually dated my ex-husband in high school so I was around. I've been around football for quite some time. I've been around sports or by some time from the standpoint of utilizing his notoriety well. I will say this. I do use it as a marketing and advertising advertising tactic store in life of exit. NFL Wipe because my book is actually titled Reality. To rags to riches but I mean everyone and every entrepreneur every sales person knows that you have to have something unique in rare in order for people to pay attention. You Know Mall all high whole household appliances are not created equal. All books are created. Equal is is something that catches matches. Your eyes or catches your ear to where it makes you say okay. Yes I wanna read that book or I WanNa buy that particular vacuum cleaner because they I put this as a marketing tool or like McDonald's or whoever else when they're making themselves more appealing so I would say yes. I am utilizing that that story in life but I feel like I earned it. I feel like I deserved it. I was with this man for quite some time. We have two amazing children and we have a handful of a great smart and intelligent grandchildren and if I want to tell my story my journey in my life in utilize my actual own experience Washington not be able to do that or should not be able to capitalize on it and I will say this even though yes the reward award is is financial in get paid to speak in people buy my book in in basketball a monetary exchange the greatest feeling the most significant -nificant filling that comes from my story and from this journey from as they say not capitalized and we're trying to monetize on his wants career is when people read my story story they understand my struggles my strengths in my successes and they're not only are they freed or they're liberated on my story but they're able all to turn their stumbling blocks into stepping stones as will through my story yeah yeah. I I am using it in and I have a right because I lived it. That's you're oh you. Did you earn it as you said you did so tell us. What are some of those struggles that you had because you know. Oh that what's out there. I'm sure it's been told you several times. How could you possibly struggling if you're married to someone who has tons of money and you have everything that money could ever. We're by. How could there be struggles. So what are they stored right right. So some of the struggles was just feeling inadequate for myself. It was me not feeling like I fit not feeling like I know belonged in that particular world or that particular lifestyle you know had children. I'm very early so I did not acquire the higher learning education like everyone else beyond high school so you know you have most of the people there. They had college education or m beyond. I felt a little standing in the room. I felt a little what word the Mulligan for either adequate. I feel inadequate but also but I also felt lists. Dan Saying a lot of a lot of situations so that was one thing thing that Kinda plagued me a lot in a really another reason why I started you know flooding myself with knowledge reading in taking different courses and training in just a bail in myself to subject matter experts to help me to overcome that once fear and then of course there's the you know the stigma of the wives and girlfriends France what they're what they're supposed to look like and I just didn't feel my yeah. I never felt like I measured up to what they what they look like. In the whole world was the way the wives and girlfriends to look like you know so that was put a damper on things and then of course you never know when people are coming at you or they're coming to you even within your own family and friends low circles from time to time. You don't know if they're really there for you or they're there for that lifestyle how so or quite a few became suspect and so you start alienating yourself start isolating from different situations. Che's in circles because you just you just don't know you don't know you know who's really there for you and and who's there just because of what he was at that particular time so there are lots of struggles. I mean I said that in lots of interviews stated in Santa. My book is well. Issues plagued us from our children. You know like we had parent teacher conferences. He hit marital issues. We had off every other issues that money at that particular time. I was not one yes well but it was one because it created all the others so there you go yes from that perspective mislead. You're absolutely correct kind of it. Made a a wall of other things that is correct yeah yeah and I think the other thing too is that I see the so many times with athletes not necessarily football but all the other sports where you have professional athletes there are people that came from a place where they never had any exposure to a lot of money it was also a dog eat dog kind of world and survival and maybe there was something a little bit better but never the multi millions Saddam that came your way and without the knowledge of how to handle it. It sometimes goes astray. That's correct in that. there's the expectation that it's just bottomless floor. You can spend it on anything and everything you want to and I say this as a financial adviser so it's not just anecdotal evidence. I'm just saying I've seen people who have acquired major you of dollars through whatever inheritances sales of businesses whatever it was and it was not the world that they came from yes strike though when you talk about the struggles. I think a lot of people have the misunderstanding that because you have the money life is easy and there's no struggle struggle now because anything that you come up against you could buy your way out of it started and I don't think that that's what you experienced wasn't no no not at all. Tell about some of the things that you realize money didn't buy I realized that money did not buy love happiness. It did not by piece that by sleet. I don't care even though I slept on like twelve thousand dollars bid with while three thousand dollars sheets it I had mini sleepless night yeah like a ton of sleepless nights and not only that it just it never bought me like the self confidence self awareness the definition that I have now. It never bought got any of that. You know that is just. I don't know looking back over everything looking back over my life. If I had to do it all over again Dan I definitely would have taken advantage in. I'm just GONNA give a disclaimer give kudos to the NFL because one of these. I do know that they offer is as you know. They have this umbrella where you can have someone like yourself. I'm sure the field that that you were in do help you with your money to help you save your money investor money just it's just a vast knowledge of how you can enter enter into the NFL enter into that lifestyle if you've never been accustomed to money and you know be secure later on but a lot of us don't take advantage of it because because like you mentioned earlier when you don't come from you know that upbringing order that that might have that mindset where you're taught about money the in how to use it and not allow its use you you overlook a lot of those things and so that's basically what we did but yeah. I found out very quickly. Money did not by friends it did not buy or should I say friendships thereby did not by not by friendships and I I mean it was just couldn't by the lessons that I needed to help me to be able to be a better parent to be a better person just to make make myself a better citizen all around it just it. It didn't do any of that. You know that comes from life experiences in Bennett also comes from to in my opinion it comes from being in humbling and humility not necessarily real mom. You know how many Zeros I had in my bank account. Yes okay. That's a good way to put it yeah so I'm thinking of something that I'm sure people are wondering about now you said that you met your husband and you dated him when you were in high school and so he was a football player then did you know that he had aspirations to become an NFL player I sure did I knew he had talked about. It and I knew that he was working towards it. Now me believing that he was actually going to be elite player. That's something totally different like I. I didn't think that that was gonna the hat okay but I but he talked about it. We talked about it in. I knew that he was doing late night. PRACTICES EARLY WANNA practices in addition to some mother fundamentals in whatnot now would I will get mad because sometimes I wanted to spend time with them and he would you know have to go to here and there and continue to work on his craft on or or enhance his skills in so that's what got him so to where he was you know to the hi of his career but then you knew that in order for him to succeed as a team player he would have to travel title as the teams had to travel all around the country and now we can say around the world because some of those London performances right right but so knowing that did you release think that there was something that was gonna Alter or change in your marriage once that became a reality may you know that that would be part of the package if he did make it to the NFL. I guess I just didn't think that it would be to that magnitude. You gotta understand like yeah. It's like you see stuff on TV. So I knew games were played here and they were playing there yet. No I just I don't know why I thought it was like you get get on a train or get on a plane. You go you play you. Come back and say you know I mean. I don't know how it was a different different. I think because I was so insecure. I didn't have a life of my own. If I had things that I was into at that time which I did I just did. I just did not act on them. It would have been different. It would have been very different but sometimes I think when you make other people your world you know and you just make everything about them and is less. You know less about you having any sort of fulfillment. I think there's a a little resentment there. I think there's some little disappointment in disguise may going on it and that's what I had. That's going on with me and it wasn't it wasn't lackey wasn't exhorting me or encouraging me as little class at local. Do those doctors that you WanNa do that do this. You know because pins a little paragraph in the book. He knew that I always wanted to be a writer and he was like go. Go go take some classes or you know whatever but at the time our children were a young or they were younger and I just didn't. I don't know why I can't explain when people ask me what what was holiday you back. I mean other than myself. I just I can't I can't explain it. I don't know I guess it was fear that I would fail or fear that I didn't think I was good enough. In then. Maybe a little Uber Comfort in there because of course you know of your man is making a million dollars a year. Why why would I think that I needed to do anything you know so yes. There's a bunch of stuff that was going on in his brain brain. So what did that brain come up with when you finally said he's decided to get off the bench and get out on the field. So what made that happen. Well is actually a combination of things that why I decided to go from being spectator tomorrow Beta but I will say the I think the most compelling was a conversation that I had with my mom and I talk about that in a book as well. I actually watched my mom who was a vibrant just you we know mobile agile young lady that she she lives her life out loud in so watching her be diagnosed with circle cancer in April the twenty twelve and then eventually she died from it in August two thousand thirteen in set off from June twenty thirteen to August twenty thirteen and watching her deteriorate. I just felt like you know I don't know this may sound a little weird to some but it's like I was placing myself in her shoes in I was thinking to myself. I've really not lived like I live by standing by Arthur site. Which is my ex-husband? I live with my standing by the side of my two amazing children watching them helping them encouraging them as well as other people but it I had not done anything that was fulfilling. Angelo of course I had a corporate job. I went into that after the divorce in nineteen ninety nine two thousand but I I just I was not fulfilled at all and so after that conversation with my mom it was like she died in August of twenty thirteen after I handled her affairs from August in two thousand thirteen to January twenty fourteen January two thousand fourteen. I just wasn't a New Year's resolution thing just turned over a new leaf had a new mindset mindset in I just literally got up and start getting out in started making no path of making a journey for me to be able to find my way on my position on my power on purpose in I just I haven't stopped since it's been riding great books. So when did you start writing. I've been writing every since the age of like about nine or ten. I guess right around fourth grade. You know doing different stories. La- short stories essays and whatnot but my first book actually started painting. I guess around two thousand three two thousand four or stalled just a compilation of poetry. You know real of life portrait bedsores topics that I actually went through but I didn't publish it until two thousand sixteen and then autobiography I started writing. Eh Right around twenty Lebanese. Your soul started painting started journaling different thoughts about my story in my life and then I published in in two thousand seventeen also featured author in a bestseller which is women Lee at chronicles women across the globe that talks about struggles near successes with entrepreneurship. Okay sounds good. I probably would like that one to our Ah Let me ask you. One thing here that I think is probably what everybody's thinking but maybe hoping I'm going to ask but a- as what is the one thing that we would find really shocking about the life of an NFL wife who really shocking about the life of the NFL will say two things things one. We have to deal with a lot of outside women. You know yes is not not really a good feeling to walk around and wonder you know what the status is of your husband husband or your your boyfriend your significant other and all of these women that are like willingly throwing themselves at them. You know constantly. I mean if you're right there like they don't care. They're really really really aggressive. You know like most people they try to do stuff behind the scenes or download what no no no no you gotta part. You got your man or member that is you know celebrity as a position of power and he or she is televised across the the globe. No people are trying to move you out the way like can I just say like what would they get out of this. I guess that they want to replace you. Is that the idea I guess they want to replace me or maybe they want money or their law fifty minutes of fame. I'm not really sure the now but you know for whatever reason and they can't miss land aching give very very aggressive and then I guess the other shocking true you about the life of ex wife is because people look to us as being these glamorous creatures that have that exude this. You Know Oh strong confidence but a lot of us. Are you know we're very self conscious at conscious and we're very like we had these identity issues even though we're looked upon as being the most beautiful the gorgeous the exotic and whatever I guess this this is what I'm told now but it's just you know we we have times and we have moments as well where we feel. We feel insecure so so I think that will probably be giving you don't also thank you look like yourself. we do and we are not beyond say. They say that woke up like this exactly 'cause. I know I definitely don't wait a minute. Wait a minute girl hold on. I'm looking at pictures of you that you are all over this thing everywhere I look at you. The first thing I thought of is you are really a beautiful woman now. Now that's I'm you know I'm not planning on making any moves there. I don't know I mean I'm just saying would everything that's on on the Internet pictures of you. You are very attractive woman. I find it hard to believe that you would be insecure in that regard eight as just one of those masks that I talk about and I guess yeah it is pulling layers back in and we do it. We do it as a human as a society as humans we do that. We have many different talking about my hands. My man he ends up being beat. I mean this is different. Things that I feel like we we feel like we're not good enough for like we don't measure up from time to time yeah when people are snapping pictures in you know those airbrush different stuff whatnot which I don't have a whole lot of them. I can honestly say that because I'm I'm not real big on you know trying to cover up to Mitch rich because I just feel like those flaws in the scars and the difference on what some call abnormalities but for me you know different moles that I have I column Beauty Marxists make myself feel embraced them and it took me a long time because these are things that as a child people would get me no picking my completion they will pick it my hair texture you know the little the the beauty malls and it's funny because my daughter has has the same marks marks on her forehead as well and I told her same thing growing up because people were picking her and told her that that is beautiful emmys. You're pretty but yeah. I think people would find that to be shocking because again. We're supposed to be these creatures that are you know we were better than everybody else and we got it all altogether and no we do not at all well. I think that's normal for all of us. No matter what we look like we we see something different in the mirror than most other people do and I guess when you're in the spotlight like like you are even though you weren't the NFL player right by I guess by association you were so the players at the the wise or the girlfriends friends. They just look at US differently because they wanna see what we look like. They will receive word hearing so that's the scrutiny that we get. They don't care. We have athletic ability if we have if we have intelligence you don't have any you know they don't care. It's just will if I walk out looking like a hot mess own you know his wife or his girlfriend a hot mess. You know just one of those things is limited. I will say this now the skin that I'm in in the second half of my life like I am bowing to absolutely live and I want to live liberated and that's my mission and that's my goal yes from all of their from Ns socially financially spiritually emotionally mentally physically. I WanNa do it and right definitely financially so that's why I was really excited about being able to come on the power of the purse because you know it hasn't been noticed role paid in gold or roses for me you know prior to the NFL even during NFL indefinitely not after the NFL the divorce was very financially draining and a shock and a wakeup a call for me and I had to rebuild in now. You Know Entrepreneurship draining my savings. Try to walk in his purpose that I still i. I am you know I was put here. I was created. I was molded for is the same thing you know. They're days and there's times when I'm like Ha. You know check check the name. I'm going to give something to keep me from red. Put me in the black. Welcome to the world of entrepreneurs wonder for Noushin Russia. Yes yes so you know from time to time it. Does it get a little scare. Then you're not like for myself is not that my grandparents raised me. It's not they did not teach me about money. Because I guess the bays lesson I ever learned while it was that money does not grow on trees and that has helped me throughout my entire life yes. I'm I'm sure go groceries as any. Do you want it. You gotta work for bottom line. You know you gotta get out there and you. GotTa really grinding you. GotTa Hustle. You got what you do in honest illegal way to on to make it happen for you so speaking about that. I'm just curious to know now how a woman who felt so insecure about herself and her place in the world becomes a motivational speaker speaker which means you gotta be up in front of people so how'd you get past that. I faced myself so after after the conversation with my mom then you know I kinda went through some self evaluation self reflections. I mean like I just disconnected disconnected from a lot of things I was still working in the corporate world but as far as like being out is society social like different bits of that would have gone to a slight literally. I just stop doc in. I started writing journaling certain things about myself and the things that I did not like I started changing aerob- a plan out for what I needed to do to change whether it was mindset or retraining my brain in another things that you know I could probably. I felt like I could live with. I just said well you know. Is this who you are. You will embrace bottom line like you know I'll give you one one. That is really really shallow. That has followed me my entire life. That would be the texture of my hair. My hair is is really really curly tight texture. I hated it. I digested it for so long but now if you attention you see the pictures I've embraced it. I want. I'm going to tell you I I love your hair and I like to and they've told me that just about her existence but I I don't know like I think because my texture Asia was different and then there's this whole good and bad hair this other kind of craziness that kind of plays a part ways really heavily it just I don't know it really like turned me against my own hair and but now I'm just like I'm embracing it in and I will say this too is saving the lot of money to all. You know like I'm not getting it dyed anymore. I'm every now and then I'll go young. Lady will oh on trimming for me as it so as opposed to me. Having you know paying out three or four hundred dollars a month or Alabama. I seek the books yeah right yes but I also like that little streak of gray in the front. I think it's a raise gray all throughout Ms Leeann. Whatever but you know I'm a hundred percent gray so I just embraced the same way. I just thought you know what I don't see it. I don't get the thing is is that you know. I think that we pay more attention to than anyone else. Does that make sense so other people will all kind of overlook it or unit. Yeah you have your Naysayer. That may say I look dated or whatever I guess. I don't know I don't even allow it to permeate. You Know My oh my positive process so you know I mean I look comments here or there about different things but I absolutely love it and it's funny because I had an interview one time in your life. You could be anybody. You know who you want to be an. I sent me but offer you once upon a time. I never would have said that I would get our. How would you have answered the question? Let's see I probably would have said that. I wanted to be ooh like Holly Berry or something you know yeah yeah yeah and he's already. She's beautiful in our own regarding her. Was You know she loves her for who she is and what she is. She embraces races. You know whatever it is that everything that encompasses her from the She had big ears a little taller so I mean I don't know aw that's what makes you you but so many times we you know we get ashamed of our flaws and you know yeah. I just decided like I said we're not did that. Self reflection I even wrote a poem about one or two points is in competition with that URL mentioned earlier in this call facing myself Mike. I'm absolutely took a hard look at myself at my life at the Pitti to whatever and I just started making changes and I'm so glad that I did because now I'm able to help people globally. That may be a little insecure in you know maybe walking doc it. We're out once walked so yeah. This is great is isn't amazing feeling to be in service. I think it's wonderful but I think we've just about run out of time here. It and they're so much worried love to ask you so maybe we could do a second one with foul-up but at this point. I was thanks to my guests. Angela Marshall and Angela tell people how they can get in touch with you if they have additional questions absolutely so my website is in other words by stone dot Com or you can just do it you know the Internet Way Google Angela Marshall Augusta Georgia I'm on every social media outlet possible symbol even if you just google the story of an NFL why you all of those links will or all those searches will get you straight eight to Angela Marshall in thank you so much lead in power of the purse four. Does this consideration opportunity to be able to interact with your audience in your in your followers thank you it's a pleasure sure and so to all of you and my power of the purse community. I hope today's podcast gave you some freedom around money and even the littlest bit of courage to know more. You're if so please visit my website. 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Hour 3: John Leguizamo

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Hour 3: John Leguizamo

"Love College Sports. Turn on Siriusxm all season long to get live college games in coverage of every major sport from every major conference plus programming dedicated sportstalk doc fantasy sports and more between games tune into channels filled with ad free music plus comedy news and more. Whatever you love it's on now start listening to Siriusxm awesome for just one dollar on your phone online and at home in a variety of connected devices today visit Siriusxm Dot com slash game day to see offer details into subscribe tale? Avatar Woodstock got. Your podcast is presented by capital. One where you can open a savings account about five minutes and five time national average. This is banking reimagined. What's in your Wallet Capital One? NA member FDIC Donlevatar a few blocks from here somebody was killed with a Samurai Sword. uh-huh how the hell is someone being killed with a Samurai sword. Guess by impaling. Thank you much stugatz. We know that it was intentional. Because I know of someone am one that was stabbed with a Samurai sword once but it was an accident like the person was doing a school project and there was a scene where there was like a Samurai sword like stabbing situation and the person was on on the ground and they're supposed to roll one way and they rolled the other way by mistake and accidentally got stabbed with a Samurai sword. As far as I know they've made a full recovery but it could be an accident. This is our show with two guys on. ESPN RADIO ESPN. Radio is presented by progressive insurance guests on the Dan Le Guitar Marjo appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter. Update Angels outfielder. Mike Trout won the American league most valuable player he barely beat Astros. Joe's Third Baseman Alex Bregman in the voting dodger's outfielder cody. Bellinger won the National League. Mvp He's the first dodger to win since Clayton Kershaw shot in two thousand fourteen and finally a snail can sleep for three years. Here's the selectquote difference. Most companies give you one option one policy and one rate but selectquote jobs. It could get you up to ten highly rated life insurance companies very free personalized quote. Call eight hundred. Seventy eight zero ten ten or go to selectquote DOT GOB for all the latest headlines and information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. John Leguizamo is with us on. ESPN radio playing with with fire is in theaters. Now if you want to check it out He made his debut long before Benny Blanco from the Bronx and Carlito's. He does way something that I will stop on every single time that I will not I will. It doesn't matter how many times I've seen stop there Chris back there thinks that his best last movie role was in the pest that the seen a quack in that movie is the is the funniest thing. Ever you say Chrissy you killed Jackie. Seen in the past is easily a top five comedy seemed to me all right well. We'll ask John how he feels about it. Would you say the same John and thank you for joining us. By the way you know they have have been You know the pest. I had a blast working on that I had fun It wasn't received the best at but People you know people push up to my show. DVD even vhs and say it's one of their favorite movies from the youth. So you know what am I gonNA. Who am I to argue I'm Mike Mike Ryan auditioned for a role in that movie and didn't get it. Yeah back when I was a child actor. I addition for the scene ended up getting cut from the movie anyways but the big win feel feel better in the movie fails movie but my main takeaway from the audition was the main henchman from bad. Boys was also at like at the audition. Sounds like wow at least I came away with this. That was that's cool. You lived in Miami at the time. Yeah yeah well. It was as a Miami movie. must've casting was you started on Miami Vice Right was that you're acting debut. Would I was nineteen years old. Nineteen eighty seven. Something like that and Yeah I was the guest villain at nineteen. I look like such opponent I look. The suit doesn't even fit me. Looks like where my father to sue. Is Betty Block although the thing you get most public. Oh He's got so many though from from gangsters and hoodies. I get that uh-huh gangsters and hoodies. I get Carlito's way and from Italian people I get a wide. You'd have to kill up and I go yell. It wasn't a documentary man on Meredith. How do you do a lot of people? Actually call you speaking of gangsters Johnny legs. Because I've heard that your your nickname and it sounds like a mafioso nickname. 'CAUSE I can run away from from Gangsters that was my nickname growing up in high school. Johnny legs degree small squeeze him. What was your life like in Colombia? How long how long were you there but I I would? Just the mother was happy there. She birthed me there so I I was there till I was about three or two and a half. I'm like that but I've been back lots man I go I I was there. I went to school there from eighth grade to ninth grade and from and I did Ninth grade there too and and so if I had gone to you along this path here when you're making decisions about what you want to be and I tell you you can only go down one of the pats would you on actor or stand up comic if you could only choose. He's one. Oh Yo. That's a tough one man and tough. Were not really a standup Real I. I'm a comic actor Comic Greider so I I I create plays is something. I kind of pioneered I would say My my my plays. I would pick that 'cause that's that's the royalist and the most naked feel an artist can be with his audience but I was of the impression and again John Lezama with us on. ESPN radio playing with. Fire is in in theaters now. that when you were in college. Do I have this wrong. That when you're in college the path that you were thinking about was a stand up comedy that you You dropped out of college to pursue comedy. Do I have that wrong. Would you get different wikipedia. It's Kinda writing Kinda wrong. I mean I did think I wanted to and I stand up and I was like mad. I don't like this and I did drop out of college to pursue films. 'cause I 'cause 'cause I had a I had A. I did a couple of student films that are some of the classics of of NYU and And so I I got an agent and and I got everything we think going. I got Miami Vice right out of that. What is what is it that you would want our audience to know about playing with fire again? That's in theaters now. In John Leguizamo is with us on. ESPN radio what. I wanted to know that. Three studly burly macho man. It takes three early patrolman to make one great mob Bob. Because we're these three tough guys smokejumpers. It would much respect to them and We put out a fine me find these three abandoned kids and we adopted. We try to try to raise him. John I'm wondering I mean the answer ball I'll let you answer. Is Ice Age. The best financial decision you've ever made. Yeah I got to say house in the Hamptons the approval of state. I've got a couple of other pieces of real estate that I like very much Where you surprised in any way by the success of that not at all right? I mean that's that's the reason you got involved in ball handling. y'All Fox is ready to shudder their animation department. They had would like wood beams on the doors not to okay you know to close it up and the movie was so huge. They had no idea didn't even have merch didn't even didn't even advertise it. It was just a crazy thing out of nowhere. How along Did the makeup take for the clown in spawn. The first day was eight hours Bro. Man But then they got adopted after four hours so I could I like at four. Am and I'd go to the seat. And they and they turned it over determine over like a burger taking care to do a crowd funding. I'm creating my first lat next Superhero Comic Book and I'm self publishing and if everybody could go support me by making a contribution bution at ww support fan x dot com. Where did that come from is it just? WWe Or is it www. The three WS good. You can tell them again if you want. And if you get the address right this time they'll be able to find him do it again. W. You W W dot support fan. I'm X. P. H. E. and O. M. dot com John. While you were filming when you were filming the Kiato Reeves movie and the Oh John Wick were you. Were filming that movie. Excuse me did you realize that you were a part of the greatest movie that has ever been made no again. No I mean I. I had a great time on the set which usually assigned. That's gotTA movies. Good when I have a really great time and But still didn't know I read the script and I think he's good. He's good in my work. But then when I went to the Premier I was like Oh my God. WHOA disdain is is magic man? I mean they got lightning in a bottle. It's so many actors. Tell us that you never actually know when you're doing it and do you have many anywhere. You know because of the way it get spliced up it needs to be edited Do you have very often a movie that you're making you know instantaneously when you're in it. This was yes. I know this this is GonNa be great you. You do know if the movie's GonNa be. I mean first of all if you go this is great. It may not be a hit but you like this movie I just did Harry half that comes out next year. I knew reading it that this is going to be a masterpiece and then shooting. I was like Oh my God. They shooting this like a masterpiece. Apiece and Ben Foster is brilliant that so even if it doesn't make money I still notice a masterpiece. What was it like for you? Did you have a lot of Latin friends in Queens and Jackson Heights. Were you'll lonely Latin kit or were you surround was it. Was it awkward to be Latin. You sound like my therapy. You're gonNa make me cry Bro. You know we. We've moved every year in my life. You know and it was you know it was back in the day when there was a lot of white flight you know why people abandoning the neighborhoods but they also like to punch me and beat me up before they left and I'm talking about every group talking about the Irish T. tallies it's the Jews. Even my people beat me up. I got into a lot of fights. I mean correction. I got beat up a lot. It's a big difference I wanted to and and so And and does your funding come from there. Yeah absolutely I mean I had a make friends real fast because we moved every year and and I and to protect myself I it was a short tough little guy but still short so you know I if I was funny. We'll give me enough time to sucker punch two more run away do you. Do you have a role in in your life. Got Away from you that you really wanted or that you were offered and had to turn down because you had other projects something in the past that you that makes you wince a little bit because you're like oh I could have done that. Yeah I was just play. I can't say the title because it's pretty Ms With a hat it was it was on project I was at. I turned it down and it was like nominate for five. Tony's and I would have destroyed that role but I couldn't because I had a previous commitment. How close are you to being Tom? Hanks's boyfriend in Philadelphia. I got the part I turned it down because I just didn't think he he was looking enough. What did what did you do instead? What were you doing instead is Bro? What'd you do instead of? That deserve a good looking white guy. Do you remember what you were doing instead. Yeah I do a lot of respect. Thank you okay Philadelphia. Super Mario Brothers. I wasn't trying to put you in a bad spot. 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I've heard rumors rumors. that STU gods the entire time I was off was Just picking bad teams for me so I would have nothing but punishments I don't know what you did. or how. Oh you did it. But the Commissioner Sarah Spain is here so she's GonNa make a ruling on this because an can you guys explain to me what happened because I've only heard talk. That stugotz was intentionally attention sabotage me the entire time. I was gone And I ended up. What with the bengals every week? No yeah the bengals. Just last week I mean that's that's it. Everything else was on the up and up. You have four losses so okay but what did he do he cheated. What do you mean no you cheat? Listen I was. She was helping he. Also pitching in Damn wasn't here and you guys needed a hand around the bucket and so that was my hand. Would you be kind enough to just tell me what you actually did. So I can get a ruling from the commission because I'm not GONNA do four penalties while I was out attending the family issues. You decided to believe me because that's who you are. What I did was I didn't ask for any of this? Yeah so what he did was the next year all right but he did was if it was a good helmet he put it back and if it were a fad home it or a team that already loss us or any team. You're pretty much getting the bank. That's all right sir. Can you make a ruling here real quick as to what the Commissioner of football just did suspending myles Garrett Indefinitely Mike Pouncey for being a loyal team mate is getting three games as well for making the league. Look back but before we get to that Sir. Can you make some. Are you equipped to make some sort of ruling on what's to God's done to me and how many of these punishments I actually have to serve. I would argue that. He wasn't putting back good ones but if he took a bad one he didn't necessarily exchange it so he wasn't really looking out for you but he also wasn't cheating to the point of like putting being a helmet in there to pick it to make it the worst way possible so I would say knowing Stu gods and how likely it is that there was some sort of mischievous action occurring occurring beyond what we could see in front of us. I would say you are likely to. Oh Two of those four punishments Seems Fair. Yeah one for each week you put us in a bad spot check. Give you one for each show. I had to do extra work have eighteen. Because you've got a real version giving giving your opinions and places really put you in a real national every day for weeks at a time. It was real funny tone issues. Be careful there was the time. Clinton Gates slept oversight. And I just sit in an eleven minute monologue by myself wearing criminal here here anyone but I do love the people railing against dance five week APPs ed I'm one of them okay Those people love giving their opinions microphones all of them. I had to work extra says Sarahspain who works from ten to nine every date giving opinion any microphone near her. I asked her every time I see who her are. You working less. The answer is always. No what do you make of what happened here with Myles Garrett punishments because now Mike read the punishments again. It's three games. What did the Rudolf get got anything? No Rudolph didn't get anything. Of course he's got an attorney. Did sound like the. NFL was planning to release further punishments. Most likely in the form of fines and not suspension. So I would guess that Rudolph will probably get a fine which if independently of everything else that happened. There had just been a little bit of whatever he was trying to do with the helmet. It probably probably would have been a fine not a suspension. So the suspensions are open jobe. One Game Marquees pouncey three games and myles Garrett indefinite suspension that at minimum will be this regular season in an postseason. If I guess the Browns went out which will be a lot more difficult now. And it's not guaranteed that he comes back next season he has to meet the standards set by. The Commissioner's Office Sarah. I think it feels pretty fair. Based on what. We've seen in the past for suspensions. I mean I do think people are pointing to Myles Garrett as never being like this quote unquote but he punched Elaine Walker. He injured a guy and a late hit. That was after the play. Sarah the Simeon one. Come on. I'm just pointing out. He's he's just pointing them out totally isolated incident and I think that six games if that's what it ends up being is an appropriate punishment for it He did connect with a helmet to someone else's said one of the fights that we saw in this league. That was most violent Was Portland Finnegan and Andre Johnson. What were the suspensions expansions suspension suspension of Portland Finnigan's once it got suspended? Two preseason games on a regular season game what if Myles Garrett missed what if he had missed his head well. No that's part of it right. It's not It's the difference between manslaughter and murder though. Because if he had swung missed entirely we have that in our past with Richie incognito where he barely gets hit by a helmet. That's being swung at him and of course if it if he'd missed it would be less of a penalty and if he had hit him in the ear. And there'd be blood. There'd be more of a penalty I was GONNA say the optics already bad to begin with. But if Mason Rudolph is bloodied he's bleeding from the head. He's on the ground I mean myles Garrett he would be gone on for a lot longer than that. So corden Finnegan and Andre Johnson. Got Nothing for that. And then the the the price tag escalated when it was crabtree and to leave because because it involves the stealing of a gold chain right then again and Andre Johnson. Each got twenty five K.. Happening in the one o'clock window okay. which is the only thing that really matter? Hiring used to be hard multiple job sites stacks of resumes a confusing review process. But today hiring can be easy. And you'll have to go to one place to get it done. ZIPRECRUITER DOT COM slash game. ZIPRECRUITER sends your job to over one hundred of the Web's leading job boards. 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What are some of the punishments involved The way this works is we reach into a bucket. We pull out a football team and then one of US loses and has to You know partake in some sort of public. Shame it's the grit debt. Not the greatest. Shame I'll be nice to you. Know find you're getting married this it Thank you I appreciate it. But it's actually grit out of shame as well guest. We have a bunch of selections still pending including Dan's final ruling of two punishments. So a lot of these might be taken off off the board. But there's a laurel and hardy having three pies thrown in your face of course the Michael Phelps address like an Olympic swimmer for an entire show. The Pappas which is you hold two foot long meatball subs in each hand for the entire show Black Hole. You have to dress up. Like crazy raiders fan for the entire. Show the car wash. This is one of my favorite. We dress you down to your skis and we wash you. As if you were a racehorse outside I was like okay. I mean how's is that GONNA look if we're doing it to dominate or Roy. Like that's all get a brush or four. Sarah I should say yes I see why man it Yeah so. That's the penalty you guys. I'll never mind. Let's go ahead and just do this. That's mine just so you can wear jeans tiger shit awful are Chris. Go ahead and reach in there. Let's see what you got what you want. The by teams packers titans giant seahawks lions. The lions are at home against the Cowboys Stafford. I also likely out again. Yup C.. Put that back. Rummaging Texas Raven at hat ravens they are plus four keep it. I don't have any Sarah go ahead and reach into the bucket and let us know what you have again. You want packers. Titans the giants seahawks those all have byes and the Browns Ravens against keep that Denver at home at home they are. Yeah they're minus ten or ten point favorite back Syrup Sarah. It's fun to all right. I'll keep it. I'll look can we just go back a second. This was the Raven I mean. Are you getting too many opinions in too many places where you had the Viking purple and you said Rape Into my God yes. Purple Billy is now reaching in their. They've been fun to put it back any team. I will take the browns. Would you can put it back if you want. Sarah we'll give you know everyone. Everyone likes to go in for a second pick. What else can you do? Fun Probably pick this. Dominating is now picking and that is the steelers on take us back five bucks back. That's the second my second pick works dominating the golden helmet a good one. I bet he's Washington minus two and a half guys. We're doing a show for an audience not for ourselves okay at any point okay. Very Good Roy. Let's go ahead and reach into the bucket of the death here. Dominique is Washington. Washington is minus two and a half. They are playing against the jets. Also the racial slurs. What's happening taken out? Why the black guys getting the racial slurs helmet okay? Now he's putting it back in the titans they on a by rethinking. The titans certify. Mike what are you have here. Let's go mike is going to reach into the bucket. Packers tight yeah. That's nice. Work there airmen. Is anyone there. No more golden helmet of lights Everyone here is in play for getting in trouble with their picks nobody nobody likes it when the positive picks the ones that are made. So let's see what's or me will help the audience by picking something. That's terrible here. You want me to pick for you. Packers titans giants seahawks packers titan giant seahawks or or browns. Those want rummaging rummaging why can't get the browns. I don't think I got the hogs right. Bigger for myself feels good so Seattle is what Seattle. Oh very good and I am the jags win. That game straight up their colts. jags AH is it still hoyer no well yeah. It's so hoyer and Nick foles his back Is it Is T Y Hilton playing certain as a COUPLA. I may find out that my fantasy team and I think he's still so the jags. I'll keep them. That's fine to know the weather. Dome Reeling Lincoln. You Use Jackson a sentence. What's the origin? Ten Years in an a sentence immediately get yanked off the air young raising Eh. Phrasing Trade Crows Ferguson is committed to making business with us. The easiest part of Your Day Ferguson. Dot Com is designed to help run your or business from the office to the job site by making your day to day activities. Easier with twenty four seven account access unmatched online inventory at on the go account management Richmond and with our pro plus customer loyalty program you can earn points with every online purchase redeemable for merchandise event tickets trips and more sign up today. Hey at Ferguson. Dot Com Donlevatar. It's Friday I'm getting into the weekend. I want to get my drink on Stugatz get open up the club open. I would open now but is the computer. buffering is this is about the show with those two guys on. ESPN radio if you missed any of our interviews go check him out on the man and he. Dan Lead Guitar. PODCAST brought to you by capital one Gabba but one reimagining banking offering a cash with no fees or minimum that can be opened in five minutes capital. One what's in your wallet capital one a member. FDIC so clay travis abyss. Who likes to do this? Sort of stuff writes the following on twitter. The number of people defending myles Garrett is insane many of you lack functional brains self defense contest to be proportional he was under zero threat objectively from Mason. Rudolph stop being dumb. That is a total Straw man argument and I did not see a whole lot of folks defending myles Garrett. How many people did you see or hear defending adding myles? Garrett anybody know who's defending myles Garrett how is it possible in. What world is it possible to defend myles Garrett Eric we're making fun of it the reaction to it but certainly not defending what he did? You can't defend what he did. What he did was ridiculous it was stupid? He's also come in Clay Travis has and said conducted a poll. WHO's GonNa be the first media member who says that Mason? Rudolph is is somebody who is benefiting from white privilege is not benefiting from white privilege. He is benefiting from quarterback privilege Because the quarterbacks Play by a different set of rules than everyone in that league and because as he said in his previous tweet Mason. Rudolph isn't actually someone who looks like any kind of threat because he is not not in any way one of the violent ones out there. He's not threatening. He's not partaking in the violence except enduring. He's not administering any any of it. So of course. There's going to be some quarterback privileged there. Everyone involved with that embarrassed the League everyone and the League hates all of that stuff that makes it look like it's unclean because the league likes to pretend that it is clean when it isn't and the only thing that's clean about. The League is the fact that they over over penalize all of the things that make the League look unclean. What if Somehow Mason Rudolph Gets Mile Garrett's myles Garrett helmet off his head and starts hitting him him in the head with his helmet? What do you think? The suspension is for Mason. Rudolph doing does the same exact thing that myles Garrett did to him except it's Mason doing the hitting the Helmet Talbot. Throwing around of the helmet is going to appear threatening to a lot of different people but I would just remind you that these penalties are very arbitrary. Betrayer we told you shall a million years ago on a field with a bat. He got an eight to ten game. Suspension swinging a bat around. We told you cortlandt Finnegan embarrassed. Barris the league with Andre Johnson but more embarrassing was gold chain snatching of crabtree and Toledo so the penalties were stiffer for them and it wouldn't have been the the same penalty if that game hadn't been the only featured game of the night and had somehow been lost somewhere in the shuffle. Some if it had even happened on Sunday when we had all sorts of other games to talk about it would have gotten diluted just like it got diluted in the preseason when of Miami Dolphin ended up doing it and and you get three games as a Miami Dolphin. Two of them preseason games because it's happening in the preseason and not everyone is noticing this is everything about this is about our the media's reaction to this and you the public's reaction to this it's not about the actual action this is very often companies that have high profiles. The thing that they're most interested in is the public relations. It's not what you Roger Goodell doesn't think myles Garrett is a bad person right Roger Goodell. Doesn't this over. Penalizing of these players started because of off field field crimes that made a squeamish public feel like a bunch of criminals were playing that sport and when the violence escalates to the point that you see last night and that by the way in hockey is another fight that in hockey players have to be looking at this and being like what the Hell is everybody such such cowards about out here todd laughing at football today. A lot of people throughout hockey laughing at this and I will say that the penalty is just incidentally like I. Don't Oh have any objection to myles Garrett going away simply because of how that looked myles Garrett going away simply because he embarrassed the league and put the put put the League in a position where Peter King is is worrying about his children and Darren novellas worrying about his children and everybody is worrying saying that their children have to see something. Children are watching at midnight. They're only seeing it because all of us networks keeps showing all day today and we're going to show it all weekend to until we we get to the next controversy. Some of those children were perhaps hoping for a backdoor cover at lebatardshow on twitter before we opened up the club. Here at Lebatardshow Lebatardshow on twitter is how you vote on the poll. I will say that. While Mason. Rudolph was on the ground He initially tried to grab myles Garrett Helmet and tear it off for what reason also hit hit Garrett in the junk yeah Yeah No. You'd be put his boot as Khalid to myles Garrett junked in an effort to get him off them myles. Garrett obviously took huge offence to Mason Rudolph trying to rip off his helmet. I don't know what he was aiming to do their imagine he did that. Outside of a football stadium. How bad ver- Mason Rudolph Miles did drive him into the ground? After the screenplay had moved on twenty yards down the field you mean McQueen tackle. Yeah I will tell you. There's something here too and I don't think that Mason Rudolph should have been suspended. But I am very lenient about this. And he wasn't suspended incidentally But a part of of everything that was happening there is Mason. Rudolph was terrible last night. It was third and twenty nine. He was getting hit hard again and he was frustrated Like he was he was not an he was not entirely an innocence. An innocent on the emotions front. He just got sacked two straight times. He's dropped him back for God. Knows what reason myles Garrett gets him again and yeah that was frustration going but perhaps a real punishment is not suspending him at Lebatardshow. That is the real punishment. Now that's the way to properly Punish the steelers for for the embarrassment it may can keep playing at Lebatardshow is how you vote on the polls what do we have here is six. PM Too early for an NBA. Game on Thursday. I was thinking think of that last night. Fifty one percent of the audience said now people liked it. I guess. Did you know that Oakley was in Michigan. Really the basketball team the college basketball team that produced Kendrick Nunn. What's Oakland Michigan? The college basketball team. Oakland is in Michigan yet. I don't buy fifty nine percent of the audience said No. Do we all wish we had a friend like Marquees pouncey. Of course we do. Ninety two percent of the audience said yes. Once you've reached the kicking in the head portion of a fight. Does anything go. I say yes ninety. Six percent audience also says yes does Mason. Rudolph looked like his. Daddy will sue the bleep patio. Ninety six six percent of the audience said yes. What's more exciting Lamar Jackson? Td Run or the fight last night. Sixty two percent of the audience said the fight. Would you ever eat a twinkie for breakfast. Fifty five percent of the audience said yes when James Harrison in his talking do you have to listen fifty seven percent of the audience said yes. What outrages you more the fight last night or the technology that makes us look again and again at the Oh B. J. touchdown? TV technology eighty percent. Did you know that some species of turtles breathe through their bucks. Really eighty percent of the audience said no you ever. DVR THE NFL red zone. Ninety four percent of the audience said No. Oh Are you respecting times that TV show. I guess I'm a Weirdo. Amaya Total Weirdo. Yes yeah Yeah I mean never mind. Are you respect the Times that TV shows are on eighty four percent of the audience said no those are the poll opened up the club. Mike Open it. We send you into the weekend happiest weekend kind of my life. Right up until gotcha ruins it. All these sounds brought to you by my computer career dot. Edu Training for a better life. This is sending you in the happy hour with an assortment of sounds from the week. What do we have Mike? Colin cabinet could be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever at is the worst and who else in the club. He'll drinking a coca cola and I said I need. I need to drink that and I gotta get Outta here right now. That is this. Go back having a bad reaction to either pot. Brownies or pod cookies. I ate a Brownie at a dinner in Kabo down and I can't feel my legs well in the club number two number two the numbers Mason Rudolph number two. What does he play like number two well the club I am not it? Is Joan rivers hanging up on our show on a landline. After calling Dale Brunson Doyle Brunson number two only to Hitler I objected and she hung up on and later died. Although those things are correlated. Who Else Club? And we all excuse his big money speed and I was Stephen. A Smith Smith taking the worst most humbling laws of his career on television markets. Fear we all excuse his big money Steve Tonight. Don't say who else in the club I'm never heard VAT never in all my years heard that. Who else is in the club? NFL's heart that was the Chicago bears coach coach. He knows better than most heart. Boylston the club. I don't recognize that played again. Glass out overweight. Okay local hour. I'm told good help. Who Else in the club? Uh Day what is. I really wasn't too bad. We have to wait for another year before we get to celebrate Dan and his loud wrong day again. That is through. Through God's is no appearing on television I stayed looking forward though man who else in the club. Five Michael Phelps. Hang up on this show what else we got this. Not Anything missile. He didn't have a rabbit's rabbit's foot in his pocket and now I fought from geico motorcycle. It took fifteen minutes to take a spirit animal quiz online. These be the Cheetah the the he's the Cheetah and learn your animal isn't the Cheetah but the far less appealing blob fish. Come on I'm glad insult to injury. You could use those fifteen minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance too GEICO. GEICO fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance.

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Pittsburgh Steelers Fact of Fiction

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Pittsburgh Steelers Fact of Fiction

"Pittsburgh. Steeler fans welcome to another addition in the family of podcast from behind the still curtain. My name is Brian Anthony Davis and you have stumbled upon Pittsburgh steelers fact or fiction fact the Pittsburgh steelers do not have a game in week four Duda Covid nineteen and the Tennessee titans having eighteen staffers players testing positive for the virus. This is a big deal We do pray for those players in those staffers get well soon, the NFL is now investigating Tennessee to see if there's any negligence involving the outbreak and so that's something that they're going to be looking at. But here let's just look at it this. Way The steelers are now going to be playing in week seven now thereby week is now it's an impromptu by week but fact these players couldn't go home and go anywhere. They couldn't go on vacation with their families during the bye week because they have to test every day. So this is a new world we find us in twenty twenty fiction. The steelers are going to be at a disadvantage because of having the play all of those games in a row, they're going to have to play thirteen games in a row. Go back to two thousand one with the Pittsburgh steelers when unfortunately the steelers and the nation. Could not play at all in week two because of the tragedies of September eleventh. You remember that from eighteen years ago while there was something else going on as well as that for the Pittsburgh steelers, there's only thirty one teams at the time. Two years removed from the Cleveland browns becoming team number thirty, one and one year away. From the Houston Texans becoming t number thirty two. So they played week one September ninth. There was a loss in Jacksonville. The steelers did not play their second game of two thousand one. Until get this September thirtieth. It was basically a three week by Pittsburgh steelers but with the bye week, just coming that week that a lot of time. Did they suffer from it absolutely not that's dealer team led by Kordell, Stewart Jerome Bettis and a suffocating defense. They went thirteen and three that year think about this. They lost the first game of the season. so they ended up playing seventeen straight games. To end that season by the time they were done and they had a fantastic year. So a lot of people that are saying right now that the steelers are going to suffer because of having the. Play thirteen games in a row now. Now, that's that's not a problem. These players don't worry about that whatsoever. So what we are looking at is factor fiction. This was the first podcast I ever did for behind the still curtain way back in two thousand, Sixteen Zach Parnes and myself would do factor fiction every week and it was like I said it was my first ever bts's podcast really my first ever podcast we did that on blog talk radio back then it was a lot of fun. I have evolved ever since into the podcast or that I am now. So it's a complete different story. There's always going to be something to talk about with Pittsburgh steelers and quote my good friend Rowdy Roddy Piper now look we were never. I've never met Rowdy Roddy Piper but I like to think that if we had met each other that we would have been good buddies. So I'm going to call my good friend and we quote every week. Tony Fiona I do on the steelers hangover in steelers question and answer Rowdy Roddy Piper used to say just when you think you've got all the answers we keep changing the questions when it comes to the Pittsburgh steelers. There's always questions there's always going to be different answers. and. There's always going to be wondering and that's what factor fiction is all about. So I'm going to think five pack of questions and we're going to go ahead and talk about that. Now to see whether I deem them as factor fiction and that's something that you could agree with or disagree with whatever you may choose factor fiction number one with Derek Watt out two to three weeks, the steelers are likely to bring back Roosevelt Knicks Rosie Nix was a great player for the Pittsburgh steelers he. Was a pro bowl fullback in two thousand, eighteen fan favourite as well. But when he went down for most of last season, the running game really suffered he was not healthy. The team ended up cutting him in the off season and he signed on with the Indianapolis Colts. However, Rosie did not make Frank Greg's fifty three man roster. What are the reasons being is because indy was more of a one back offense not a to back offense and they really couldn't find room for him. Frank Reich was. Quoted as saying that you know, we think Rosie's a great player we would have loved to keep them. So when Derek Watt went down last week against the Houston. Texans and was deemed to be out two to three weeks. Rosie Nix was on the radar of a lot of fans saying, Hey, they should bring back Rosie next. Look. I. Don't think this is going to happen. So I'm going to say fiction to this, and the reason I'm going to say fiction if it was a season ending injury. That would be more likely. So if what was going to be down for the rest of the year, they might have went and explored that with am Trey edmunds on the practice squad trey Edmunds has done a lot as far as a practicing at fullback clang fullback. He did it quite a bit when Rosie one town in two, thousand and nineteen. So that's probably the direction that they're going to go and right now they know that Derek what is going to be back they said two to three. Weeks, and with the Titan game being down, that's one less game that Derek, what's going to miss as well. Right now, I'm going to say fiction would love to see Rosie next back in Pittsburgh steeler uniform, but that just does not seem to be likely at this time fact or fiction. The wide receiver position is the deepest that the steelers have had in years look here the wide receiving corps Ted of Juju Smith Schuster, deonte, Johnson Chase Klay poll, and James Washington is so deep they didn't. Miss a beat, Wendy Andre Johnson suffered a concussion the first half of week three against the Houston Texans would they weren't worried about the wide receiver core and the other pass catchers as well as the tight ends. You've got Vance McDonald. You've got Eric Iran in their Eric Ibrox really came alive in that game in. Vance had two key catches as well. y'All so so rewrite McLeod get some snaps and it was interesting because Ray Ray got those snaps even before Deontay. Johnson went down with that concussion. Well I kill your unit needs to have all of their men. Healthy others are really good at stepping up in any of their absent. The two thousand ten team had hines, Ward Mike Wallace Sanders Antwan, randle El Antonio. Brown at times was their fifth receiver. If you can believe that he was a rookie but that's how deep they were. Other units boasted is like Jericho Khatri Martavis Bryant Markus Wheaton even Darius Hayward Bay in the last few years but I think this is going to be a lineup. Of wide receivers that really gonNA rival any of those groups they might not be number one that I group that I mentioned the won the Super Bowl. Two, thousand ten might be number one right now with this is still a very good group. It could be argued that there are deeper units out there but the steelers are unselfish and strong here, and that's what those other teams didn't really have you an unselfish guys like Hines Ward in Antoine ran well, but then you had guys like Manny Sanders. The young money crew Manny Sanders Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace. So I'm really happy with this court at a wide receivers in a even the addition of number five of Ray McLeod. This is why I'm happy with this group. Because when you're leading receiver has under fifty yards on the day and they win, there's no threat to a gatorade cooler. There is no boycotting of practice the next day hint hint I'm talking to you Mr Brown. So look there's no egos on this team they are here for one stat and once that only and that is the W. And with this quartet, there's going to be plenty of WS. When you're playing unselfish fact or fiction speaking of Macleod, the speedster will break off a kick return for a touchdown in two thousand twenty. Friends. I'm saying it right here Ray Ray McLeod is electric. Now I know that he was onto other teams in his young NFL career I know he was a member of the Carolina Panthers a member of the Buffalo Bills. The rap on McLeod has never been his speed, but it's been his ball handling skills. You know that's going to be a concern with a lot of speedsters, but here's the thing with Ray Ray McLeod, he's a threat to go the distance every time he touches the ball really seems inevitable that. Number fourteen going to go all the way on one of these kickoffs currently McLeod is tied for fourth in the League with a twenty, eight point eight average per return I can't remember the last time. The Pittsburgh steelers were the top ten on return average as far as kick returns a lot lately with Ryan Switzer was there. You had a situation where he was a very short handed guy, but he wasn't going to get a lot of yards as far as that goes Markus Wheaton as well. Many included myself. Think it's Time that Ray is going to reach the end zone you throw in the fact that Ray Ray is also very good at filling in at punt returner Wendy. Andre Johnson went down you've got an electric group. You've got the Johnson and Ray Macleod back there on special teams. Somebody's GONNA break. One we saw Johnson do it last year I think McLeod's GonNa do it this year you might have both of them do it this year, but it's really encouraging to know that the kick return is back in the steel city fact or fiction the steelers will break the shrew all-time consecutive sack gastric the season. Okay. Look here's the deal the reason I say true all-time consecutive sack streak. Because we didn't start talking about sacs officially as a stat since nineteen eighty two. So when you look at the steelers all time list, it's true the all time leader, James Harrison he's got eighty point five. Now number two is Jason Gilded that is true as well. But for the longest time, the unofficial sack leader for the Pittsburgh steelers was who is at number three and that's Elsie Greenwood. The reason he is the unofficial leader is because he retired in nineteen eighty-one they didn't start counting sacks until nineteen, eighty two as an official stat. So what? You're looking at here for him. He has compiled that number of stats and at unofficial number, but it's one that they are the NFL was holding true to. So if you look at the number of sacks, that is the record that is held by the Tampa Bay buccaneers, they recorded sixty nine sacks. Excuse me sixty nine straight games of saxe but BTS's stat. Allah. Just Dave Scofield, took a look at this and he is reporting that the Detroit lions are actually the true sack streak leaders seventy six straight contests from nineteen, sixty to nineteen, sixty five. Look. The steelers right now are at sixty one game while they have the defensive firepower, they're likely to surpass the buccaneers this year for the official mark, they would have to go through full season, basically sixteen more games to have the record on their own I think. That, mark in two, thousand, twenty one but I think they're going to have the official record in two thousand twenty but you know Pittsburgh steeler team is more than capable of getting that record. And they're also more than capable of getting the unofficial record as well, which is a feather in their cap it you know they would love love love love to do it. So I'm GonNa, see fiction on that. But in the future, it could be fact fact or fiction. The steelers are now employing a running game by committee. I've got to say a big fiction on that make no mistake. James. Connor remains the bell cow of Mike. Tomlin. Attack Connor led the team with eighteen carries in week three but Benny Snow Junior was seven and Anthony McFarland with six. They were called upon to chip in more and more. So Tomlin has a reputation of running the wheels off guys. We saw Willie Parker to Angela Williams were shot Mendenhall Lamy on bell and we've seen it with connor as well. But if Sunday, against the Houston Texans are any indication, the division of Labor will increase for the backups. Look these guys. Are Capable of running the ball and running the ball. Well, when Connor went down early against the New York giants Benny Snell junior came in and a lot of people. Were calling for him to be the SNELL cow to be the number one back in Pittsburgh. I have since retracted that statement because I really think James Connor needs to be that guy and I think he is the guy but you don't have to run the wheels off this guy. You just don't look it's never going to be a true running back by committee for this team. But if you can get these guys, some more rushes and still have connor have a considerable amount of the carries. That's. Fantastic that's going to give him a break that's GonNa, keep him more fresh and you saw what happened the last couple of weeks with James Connor he was able to run out the clock with his legs. He could have had two more touch. Now, he could have had more yards he didn't need them. The steelers are the only team to have one hundred yard rushers, three weeks in a row in this early season. so that's fantastic as well. The running game is definitely back in Pittsburgh as well. So look at them to get more carries, but it's never going to be a true running back by committee and it doesn't need to be as long as connor remains healthy. So once again, that's a big. Fix, Sean. Are these statements valid will soon. See You let us know what you think. I'm not endorsing five of these scenarios I'm just saying this is what my black can gold brain is thinking. So, thanks for hanging out with me on this special edition. In the by week, we gotta have something to talk about and remember just when you've got all the answers where you think you've got all the. We keep changing the questions. My name is Brian Anthony Davis, and this has been factor fiction on the Pittsburgh steelers bt SC. Family podcasts.

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Know Your Enemy, Part 2: Week 4 vs, Titans with Tennessee Titans Weekly

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Know Your Enemy, Part 2: Week 4 vs, Titans with Tennessee Titans Weekly

"You're still listening to behind the steel curtain. I'm Michael Back joined with Jeffrey Benedict and Hawking lockdown from Tennessee Titans weekly having a lot of fun so far we talked. In the first half I don't WanNa talk about the steelers. Receivers is Kinda, the last group that we haven't touched on before kind of move on to that to that other side of the ball. I'LL START I'll start with the Hawk and this one the steelers I. I know we mentioned the Andre Johnson before we went into our our quick break their butts. All these other series at the kind of have the kind of have that core for big by ends. Is there one name on this on paper? That kind of makes you a little nervousness game? Well we all know about Juju okay we do know about the guy he's done a heck of a job in his career so far in his young career he's definitely a wide receiver one ness wise out there and he's making place. He had a great game last week. I've seen him do the gritty dance when he scored a touchdown, you know you never know what type of dance Juju is going to do when he scores a touchdown, right? It's kind of like a wait and see right so we know about Juju. Okay. So we have to do a really good job in covering him but. The gathering I'm concerned about of the receivers you know looking at this Games is James Washington You know he has a lot of speed he's a, he's a strong receiver to. Catch a lot of passes on the inside and breaks a Lotta tackles. A lot of thousand we put a lot of focus on that one receiver and they leave the other one on an island. Now, you know our corners right now have struggled last year that was a strength of our team was our DVD's and Kevin buyer the all pro if those that don't know about Kevin by the way, he's playing right now the probably the best safety in the League top top three definitely right seventeen interceptions nights seventeen interceptions in for your career right? So he struggled. Adore Jackson's out who was juice former teammate at USC. He's out So you look at Malcolm Butler, the super bowl champion who had the interception against the seahawks he has struggled mightily, and now we do have the rookie Christian Fulton, and so we have a lot of debate that we can throw out there but they're struggling and so I think we'll do a decent job against Juju but we gotta be careful James. Washington. He actually is my concern more than for this particular game. Interesting now, Giaga I'm curious your thoughts on the steelers receivers as well. So of course like you say we got Juju Chang Got Dante. I'm more conservative chase and the reason why I say this, we had a rookie in Jefferson that went off last week literally Israel. Who May renewed gang. I mean one of the best rookie Shawn's in in in in decades literally and I'm like, okay. Then Young Randy Moss out there. With. The sidelines is we let we put out attention on Juju we have James WHO's GonNa Guard chase right that leaves chase right there in at slap position you move them to the outside literally we've been struggling. In literally last week Butler was getting exposed by Jefferson every of the play and you like, Hey, move them over. So for me is chase I mean even though yes. Yes. With us in rookies. It just never pans out and it could be career for chase literally how because. Trust them I mean we have Chris Jackson Rookie I. Think he's a seven round pick was out. Of Jackson was out Butler struggling in if you've ever played beat the B, you know communication issue is communication you communicate hey, uncovered three you know I d thirds tool. We hear we man down here we go to communicate last week. What I saw was missed communications everywhere. So we can't get a communication issue together. Yes like I, say we got James We gotta do what about face What we have so for me, it'll be chase and just something about these rookie receivers that they tend to get career games. They have career days I don't know why. To look for I know, Jeffrey myself or a bit of chase pool homers. Myself being from the great white north of Canada's well, actually actually do chase. So watching him do what he's done so far has been pretty incredible but Jeffrey, I ask you a three games in didn't have kind of the targets that he did in week two, but still came down with that clutch Kinda gained ceiling reception right at the end there What have you seen out of his development three three weeks in the year. I just they're finding ways to use them to his strengths obviously, he got put in against Houston. He ended up playing the most snaps of any wide receiver in that game after Dante, Johnson went down but they're mostly using them. Do his strengths are having run deeper routes. They're moving guys Let James Wash didn't. Work underneath him. And he ju- he had the quick catch on the sideline and run for twenty four yards but he also drew that big pass interference call on fourth down on our big feel drive to start the second half. He's made he's making plays. I I can see if I can see it being a big game for him because like you they're saying titans don't have depth right now. At quarterback defensive. Backs are getting taxed out there yet and. We could see someone go off If they're playing a lot of man, you could see that V change Washington. because. He is so so hard to match up with one on one and with his strength and his his. Combat Catching Ability at. Somebody out there, you can't handle due to its. Hit him hit him all day long. Now let's let's transition here to the defensive side of the ball, and there's some great pass rusher some outside defenders in this game I kinda. WanNa start on the on the Tennessee side Judean clowney kind of that big time signing right at the end of that that kind of weird off season type period Maybe I'll pose talk I what is currently Kinda done to this defense house he kinda changes unit was brought to this team so far. Will, if you look at stats, you'd probably he has underperformed because he has zero sacks. Right and we're paying them a pretty penny to be here. But would today beyond cloudy does he brings the presence? He brings double teams right? Because they don't want him to go. Wow and clowns not had has never really been a sack guy that's is is really not understood. He's a one-stop or that's what he is. He's day new defensive tackle more than D. in but You know right now his performances mid shaky I can't say of walking away like all cloudy just doing great I just the fact that he's been bringing in the presence teams have been double team, which is allow Jeffrey Simmons to go off. Jefferson man the man is is unstoppable. You know the offensive line of Pittsburgh there better be ready I'm telling you but today cloudy has had an uneven performance so far. This toll Jacques this. This is one game where I think cloudy could be an impact in the second game because this the NFL now is more like arena football doesn't help from that was fun. So it's hard to get sacks I think the leading sexy myth four sack. So you it's hard to get sacks right now it really is because the boggles out so quick but rothlisberger doses progressions, he takes us four to six step drop and he looks and it takes time to throw football. So this could be a game were cloudy can make the difference causes threw the ball quick guard Mitchell and so did you lot up boom balls out? Ten Times. Better than him takes his time. So. We'll see I i. hope he does well You know we'll see we'll see we'll see. Now jog oppose to a little more broad. What do you think of this entire titans defensive line how they kind of done in twenty twenty so far so A, lot of people don't realize what we have on a deep misaligned. We have heroin landry who had a eight sacks nine, six last year we have big Beasley who eight, six last year of course you have clamming who had three and I think you had jeff who had like I think two or three last year now. The thing is they haven't all been on the field at the same time. We actually got a peak in a glimpse edit last week when that lasts drive when Minnesota was trying to drive down the field to get that field goal they actually all fall on the field at the same time and they were able to bring pressure when it's just one or two of them on the field, you really don't see it you like, okay. Hey. Yeah. Clown is gone. Double Teams Heroin Landry is not a every. Down Pressure Guy, he'll get you maybe one sack every other quarter maybe or he'll be two oppressor every other quarter, but he's had an interception issue. So the defensive line has gotten pressure, but we just can't get to the quarterback I would like to see some adjustments to where we can get off for them on the field. At the same time, we might have to do that with collage career out on the Kobe lists in Daytona's out. So little we might have to scheme up to wear. Hey, big. Cloudy we have you on the right here on the left Vicky right here in the same. So we good. Let's go so. Right now, we really haven't seen the actual. The Flower Blasphemy say like that we haven't seen it really just unravel. Of course if we would have had a preseason, maybe we could seen more preparation more time. But right now we're getting there. We're not there yet but we get into in this could be again where we have no choice. Literally, we have to put all four at the same time to get. Personal being. So just that actually might actually happen if it does the it won't be as easy as steelers fans thinking would be because like saying Jeff's every is right now all pro he will make the pro bowl literally this year. If not this year, it'll be next year people look after big ninety, eight, number, Ninety, eight, Ninety, eight, he's a master I'm telling him. I'll be sure to I'll write that down I'm GONNA. I'm GonNa Watch him all game long marquees policies and unbelievable center. You know he better be ready. He better be ready. I'm telling you decastro be ready be ready. Now speaking steelers offense aligned for you Jeffrey. They had an okay game last week like obviously a lead up a couple of pressures to a couple really big shots which I know a lot of aren't too happy to see. But overall, they played a pretty good game against the against Texans. How do they match up better against the titans this week? Well, the right side of our line has been phenomenal the last couple of weeks. decastro being back. He was actually better even as much as Dotson, much rookie Kevin Dawson impressed us in week two Dave decastro was exactly what you would expect. He was significantly better. took. Core for. Did a great job against Jj Watt really held his own there. We we know he's got great feet. We know he's good against speed rushers, but he was handling JJ power to he was taking power moves in just just dealing with. The the right side of our line is doing great. County has have really good gains like He. He had down year last year this year he looks really good. The problem is our less side of the line. We got all our hundred waiver there and we've got I just I cannot. Thank you. Filer, they are not playing together. They don't seem to have a good chemistry over there on the left side this year even though they played together before and that's that's really the question mark there is what they're right side can do. That's Herald. Landry I. Don't know who they line up a defensive tackle over there. But. I don't think clowney cloudy is spent on the right side sometimes found he's been there is usually I left into being. All right defeats Ben. Simmons will line up in that spot where he's at. Ready they'll him Daiquan and be ready. To Really Herald Landry. And whoever they land beret defensive tackle. That's that's the match up to watch out for because I think the right side still gonNA handle it. The way they're playing is just A core for a game, he may slow down but right now he just playing phenomenal But what they were saying they're defensive line, the losing Casey bringing in giving and cloudy. What would you see there is it seems like the defensive line really doesn't have. A good chemistry developed doesn't have a good identity doesn't have like, okay. They don't have. They figured each other in themselves out yet, right? Which Ciller probably on their secondary's just there's been some very key turnover and they have those weaknesses but the talents their. Talent is a hairdo. Dare I like seven Jerry Simmons was my favorite when he was coming on the draft I was like that vs. They've got so much talent there I've always been a huge depre- fan but today and cloudy is like. Budget pre before Tj walk came around. Okay. Only better like he can drop into coverage he can read the defense he can blow up the entire side of a run game. You can take over like that side the of the board himself, but he's not he's not finisher right? He's a habit 'cause he's getting their disrupt things he's GonNa, mess you up. He's collapse your pocket. He can do all that stuff but he's not really a finisher in the pass rushing game and the only time we really saw today beyond cloudy put up sack he was across from Jj Watt, which is the same thing with Budgie pre owned time. He's putting up sizes ways across from TJ. Gotcha so so we've got we got a great bunch of players of the question is at what point in the season is that defense got to come together for the Titans and snap you know have the light come on click they figure themselves out then they're gonNA they're gonNa Nasty when that happens now speaking of the entire titans defense as a whole will start with you on this one. How do how do they stop the steelers offense? What are they going to do to walk away with this victory? So. First of all, we have to May, of course, we missing Dane peas we we miss dean fees that is the key player coach that was a key to our success last on defense because then ps was able to disguise your weakness. So he was able to put you in places that we your strengths were this year. is is able calling the plays a Milan backers coach Bowen is calling the play. So there's no real in game adjustments. What we're going to have to do with this game is I have to pressure on being that's the number one thing and and you might have to be creative like I said earlier is putting all four of them on the field at the same time literally, I mean, they probably going to have to pay eighty percent of the snaps just to get pressure on Big Ben and then with us being something in the secondary last year, we went a lot of three safety sets literally. We had money hooker. Car. Roll Empire back there. So that helped out a lot it brings down extra safety you can come in the slot or he can come in at linebacker role if he needs to this year, we're not doing as much. We're literally man here cover to cover three zone here and to me we're we're not a good zone team with more of a good man team got Christian Fulton rookie who's made plays literally had an interception with the Jacksonville at a sack last game so I would like to see him get more involved in in input him maybe on a chase played pool or Give him a shot owned and I. WanNa say James Dean is an incredible receiver, but we're really going to have to be creative with this guy especially with the preparation not being there s not practicing I mean literally. By FEM Studies. So for me, we're lily going to have to go back to the basics literature. Let's look at how what we did last year we had three sixty cents. Okay boneless keep him out there. We need to get pressure. We got four or beasts of defensive line out there in Atlantic is going to have to step up and guard the tightening ends in make tackles when it's time to make those key tackles those run stops because like I said we've been. Weakened in our run game but the key man is going to get back to the basics. Literally, the basics is that's do we did last year and let's figure out how to get the deemed by revenues to be on the following dean peas right now literally right now and discussing in saying, Hey, how do we get back on track because right now we're struggling so. Now. Lorenzo I'm going to specify this a little bit more if you could give me one position group that has to have a big game for this win on that defensive side of the ball who who are those guys. As. I. To me man is a simple answer man the defensive lineman. It's a d line I'm telling you if we could control Ben Rothlisberger we rattle him make like Ben Rattlers Burger right we hit him a bit. I think that will be used for us. Okay. we'd been untouched isn't credible. He's a hall of Famer it's no question Ben Rothlisberger. It's unbelievable. We know this right but you know. Again. If you go to the jags game back in the playoffs several years ago Jacksonville said, smack him around. He had been at one point about retiring right after the game. So the game was over bills I don't know if I want to do this again I just don't I'm like, wow. Wow I can't believe he's saying these things. So we have to get him in that mindset right to hit been. It's gotta come for Mar deep into Vince. Is jock alluded to earlier. We don't have that Kwan Jones we don't have Camilla career wheels Dole's two guys. One day being started career plays a lot. So now we got four busy lyman that it can rush the passer. We hit a bit. DECA rattling. So our defense, a blind they have to play well, because struggling on our secondary, we can't trust them are inside linebackers or having a terrible season two. So it's own. Our Defensive Line is if Jeffrey Simmons has a big game we're GonNa win this football game. If we could hit rothlisberger weaken win if we do night Rothlisberger Rosberg and Eric Lebron's going to have a field day mark my words I don't know the stat so phone e Braun I know how good lebronettes because we played them every year with the colts and I know the tight end has always been a struggle for us. If you're in fantasy football and uber tight end versus the titans and he's on the bench, you better start him I don't care who years it could be me out there right stardom autumn. I'll tell you where Eric Iran and meanwhile burger are going to have a field day. We don't hit Rothlisberger Man I'm telling that's a fact mark my words will. I think Eric Brown might be available in one of my league. So he is getting picked us on. Them I guarantee you on 'em frill. All right. All right I want you to. One touch now guarantee and you can ask before tied in. Medicine. Ball. It's true. Jeffrey Mike variable is one of your favorite coaches I know across the entire NFL. Expect from him and his game plan against the steelers. This is I've told you before the game picking the steelers to lose I'm still on that This is one of those games where everything's against you the steelers fans loved having a coach, Bill Cower. It would just be like you know what we're GonNa do very basic things we're going to get back to basics they're gonNA know what we're doing, and it won't matter if we do it better at Rabaul has that rebel has that gumption him? He has that like stick your out and just. Say you know screw everything. We're GONNA win this game no matter what he has that kind of thing and I think with their team in the situation they're in it could actually be a benefit to have kind of a week off. Get Out of game planning out of just planning for opponent. Go back a little bit too something simpler. Go back to what your strengths are. And just throw it out there and see what happens. I could see the steelers coming out in this game the defense has been. Good but not not solid hasn't been altogether and our offense is get it done sometimes and other times not really. So I think I think you could see a game where. The titans come out you know they get some rest. They have some hard practices right before the day of the game come out, keep the scheme simple and just go out and play football give the steelers trouble keep the game close and that's that's their style. That's that's when they win and I think Mike rebel is the exact kind of coach to take a simple scheme that works against the steelers you know bill belichick stuffy ran against us wasn't complicated it just worked because it always did and he knows that he knows us from that and he knows he knows how to deal with this kind of situation so I think he has kind of the perfect coach. For this game in situation where they shouldn't win. Not. Getting into practice, the field isn't even the odds aren't good that you just go out there and you play football better than the person across from you. Win The game. Now we are getting to the top of the hour and I don't want to get to gain predictions and a couple other things really quick but I would be remiss if I did not bring up t Jiahua but depre- Hawk why don't we start with you on this one? What are they GONNA do to to down the steelers Pasha, up pass rush, you have been racking up the sack so far three year Gotcha and by the way great comments by the subscribers here man awesome. Awesome Comments Man Guys A. Great job on the known the comets. Here. We'll tell the one place the question Taylor left the last game with a shoulder injury and so if he doesn't play you know I don't know if you guys know first round pick was Isaiah Wilson. Wilson's had a lot of a lot of trouble. He's had Kobe twice He is. He got arrested a few weeks ago He was actually pulled over even about a month or so ago right now he's a big guy this acting like a fourteen year old child just being honest. So he's not available. So right now we are going with a guy named Thais umbrella. Oh Yeah. Who is that right I? Don't know right now we just we signed during the off season from the Atlanta. Falcons. He struggle against the Vikings last week he did now he got better as the game war on especially in run blocking won't pass blocking against Tj, Watt and pre that's where the struggle is going to be Taylor one is not on the field it Taylor plays I think that'll be a pretty good match. Oh, I think. We'll battle. But some rail low is the issue here but debris. Against shot the other yeah Dennis. Kelly. I like both ran match up to I. DO I'm worried about TJ why I think he's more of a dynamic world should then be pre. But do pre similar to debut on cloudy and a lot of ways same size, same bill, same type of Guy Right see what is my worry? My concern? Yes, I. Am I'm BARRACAS are. The Positive Orion Ryan heels that he gets the ball out quickly, he doesn't allow a lot of sex. Exactly now, Marcus Mariota that is correct. Sir Mario would have been an six times. That's. So with. Ten on a ball quickly hoping TJ. Why just for a little bit just to kind of keep him down I think that'll be the strength for us, but he will win the battle with umbrella. So steeler fans we know about we know about T. J. Watt he he will win that battle. Kick it over you. You think on the scale matching. literally, like we got him rela if Tyler doesn't play San, brothers have his hands full literally I mean last week he struggled a Dominican is doesn't have TJ wider defense of land. So that concerns me my problem is we should never got rid of jet concrete because usually in this situation, what will happen is Jack Conklin will, of course, you're the right tackle will move Kellyanne that left tackle role. Kelly's able to hold it down I trust Kelly Sam Berlow. No. Like, you said about the pre but pre he he's just like to on literally he's GonNa Finish winning needs to finish, but he's not that finisher. So it in in something a step that people don't really know fans in the steelers fans no bit. Ryan really hasn't been sacked. It is it's a weird thing because he gets the ball out fast but the past protectionist literally been lights out. I think he's been sick maybe once or twice but compared to last year when Mario sack a hundred thousand times, bears, Knighton days. So if Tannahill, he'll get the ball out in like hawks eight if he can just hold them for at least a couple of seconds we will be fine but if San umbrella plays is going to be a struggle so in is also important to get the run black along as well. So. Yet they were me but hopefully, tyler play Taylor Lewan plays I feel comfortable with the past blocking. Yes. Why get pressure but like I said, they'd been good. They passed like I'm actually shot so. Now, we're right a right up against it here, Jeffrey I I think we can just straight in a game predictions 'cause I wanNA make sure of and can plug their stuff I know you got the titans in this one but to what your score prediction. Titans twenty-three steelers twenty one. Game at the end. Like the steelers have been closing out every game with the ball I think this is the game changes they let it stay close Ben Dozen do what he needs to do to put this team away and they they take it over late with with King Henry. Awesome now, will will kick it down to Hawk the next prediction. So, we walk had our predictions show before the season started and we gotta stay true to what we predict it. Actually had the steelers winning this Football Game Ladies and gentlemen I did of course. I'm with the to win. Hope we win. Obama. Wrong. Very wrong but I just think you know the fact that we're not practicing that's an added fabric in this thing You know right now we have a lot of injuries I have a lot of things struggling right now I don't think it'll be a blow out the it'll be very close game I think it'd be a very good high scoring game to be honest. So I'm actually going steelers thirty, two, titans thirty, I think it'll be a high scoring football game. Wow. Now, jock kicking it down to you. I, think the steelers went into at. I. Is this the factors man? This doesn't help that all the cold weather stuff happening. This doesn't help at all in literally I had US losing even with game preparation. But with the covert. Going on and not not be able to practice. I have actually losing a thirty five to twenty four. So. All right now for me. Ended off your bowl on it I kind of had the steelers steelers going undefeated into Baltimore was my kind of bold prediction for this year. So I'm GonNa ride with that I'm going to say the steelers win this one by field goal twenty. Now, actually a little bit less will go with the twenty one, eighteen I I think with your long snapper being out Steve GAW allows you to get the opportunity to kick a four straight game winner So the steelers the steelers come out and in this game four and now Jack I'll kick it down to you. Right really quick here at the end if you got if you guys got anything to plug shock while you go first and Hakka second. Club me plug and brother Art Okay I. Okay. Well, gentlemen thank you for joining it on the show. Thank you for the comments and everything Just me asked who's the best slot for our team Adam. 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Steelers Stat Geek: After nixing the Bengals air attack, can the Steelers stop the Ravens run game?

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Steelers Stat Geek: After nixing the Bengals air attack, can the Steelers stop the Ravens run game?

"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds. Check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja. Warrior Fan is welcome back to another episode of Steeler Stat Geek. This is Dave Scofield deputy editor of behind the steel curtain coming at right you for yet another episode so we can talk about so these numbers associated with this fantastic win from last night. I don't know about anyone else but it just feels like a different day when it's the day after actress steelers win. I don't know about anyone else so I'll just making sure that we didn't have any problems with the video coming through to make sure everything was good. I know we had a problem last last week on the steelers preview where we ran a good bit of the show and here the video wasn't working it ended up working later if you went back and caught it on youtube but but it's good to see everyone. I don't know about anyone else. Did you catch the steelers hang over earlier tonight. I sure did if you missed it. Go back and check that out. Brian Tony had a great show. Brian took some shots at me. It's all right because he thought I was taking a shot at him. Because he brought up he was unaware. Aware that L. Ford signed with the Baltimore Ravens and I just give him a hard time because that was something that had come out the day before but we we know how it is on Game Day while you might not know as much but still curtain on Game Day things get crazy and hectic and everything getting ready to to to be prepared for the game so that's what happens around here some time but I'm ready to come here poison nice to talk about some good numbers so see some people are are filling into live chat. I'm going to go ahead and run some numbers before. I'd turned it over to you all. I'm just going to throw out several different. Things few read the article this morning of the by the numbers that came out early this morning based on the game. It's all the same day hey which we're not really used to because of this because a Monday night wanting you gotta realize. I don't know if you all are fans of the night games or not. I know oh it was a late night for me. I know it was very late night for Jeff Hartmann especially when the game ended by the time. He's usually already done for the night but this week is the only we get out of a four game. Stretch with steelers. Do not play a night game 'cause they. Were Monday night against against Cincinnati last night. There will be one o'clock against the Ravens this coming week then they are Sunday night football against the the said sadie again against the Los Angeles chargers and they have a bye week and then they're back on Monday night football against the Miami Dolphins oftens. That's a game I will be at or at least. That's the plan right now so let's talk some numbers a few things. I want to throw out there. I think the final number a the exact number I think might have been twenty nine forty eight. It was really close. It was twenty nine two hours close twenty nine forty. Six twenty-nine forty-six was the time of possession that the steelers had in a game last night that is almost half the time. They were fourteen seconds away. I will take that that was great. They did have a more of a time of possession. They did have lead at halftime now. In the second half of course you know they were. They didn't mind at times letting Cincinnati take their time when they're trailing by three touchdowns and chewing up clock. That's fine lead lead a team of clock when they're down by three scores. The other thing was the steelers turnaround and have an eleven second drive because they put up a touchdown so that was nice numbers but everyone's GonNa talk about. I'm trying not to look at the live chat yet but I had to see it. cre- brought it up here. I'll just bring it up on the screen eight sacks that was a great number eight sacks minus sixty nine yards which which meant that even though Andy Dalton threw for over one hundred seventy yards technically the the bengals only had one hundred the yards passing because of all the minuses from the sacks so wow so that's kind of one thing that if you look at the title of the show so we're talking about how the steelers slowed down that air attack of the Cincinnati Bengals and you're like come on what do you mean air attack by the Cincinnati bengals going into the week. Andy Dalton was second in the League in passing they had been chuck in the Rock because they needed to because they hadn't won any games yeah so they hadn't been able to run the ball effectively. They were throwing it. A lot and the steelers came out and said Nope but let's look at how all that attack went down first of all you got eight sacks. I heard something I don't know if it was the exact number of hers somewhere around Fourteen quarterback hits twelve or fourteen something crazy like that the steelers put so much pressure on Dalton. He couldn't throw the ball downfield but if you also look at the steelers defense where the weakest part of the steelers defense in my opinion right now the passing game is the shallow middle. It seems like they've got the outside doing good on on both sides with the corners now with both Joe Haden and Steven Nelson. You've got minkah Fitzpatrick. You did not hear much of last last night. which was a good thing because you don't want to hear your free safety having to make all kinds of crazy place? It's a better game when he's he's not getting his name called because he's back there doing his job didn't hear him didn't throw edmonds. That was good good stuff. I know sometimes in the past attack attack across the middle especially on this crossing around says sometimes the steelers can give up but I think they're getting better. I definitely think they are so you got. You got those numbers you've got. I think it was one hundred seventy five total yards. I'm pretty sure that the bengals had I could. I could add it up here. Real Quick Yeah eight hundred seventy five because I know I had an article that was their total offense of yards from scrimmage James Connor and Jalen Samuels together had two hundred and eight. I do believe it was but they had just a to those two players had more yards than all Cincinnati's offense offense. Cincinnati had three drives of negative yards now. That's pretty impressive so all kinds of great stuff. I like eight tax. They came from defensive line outside linebackers. You'd had inside linebacker. Devin Bush had the first sack game so it was fantastic great time I know I had given the steelers defense a hard time for being predictable. I felt they were much better at that. They did not you could sit back and pick them apart because they just had so much pressure guys just getting the job done upfront. That was one too I was is upset with the offense that I felt that they just came out and Kinda the same old same old thing last the week before against San Francisco not this time and of course you get people people out there that are never happy even after win oh the wildcats not sustainable. This isn't an answer for the season. BUBBA Duh Yeah Yeah I know. I think we all know that. All I know is this. I don't care that that's not an offense that the steelers are going to replicate every week back. What I care is the offense. Lewis shows that they will adapt and adjust based based on opponent and situation to do whatever they need to do to be successful. That's what I didn't see at all in San Francisco and that's what I definitely saw all last night on Monday night football and that's what I want to see now. You might say well that Mason Rudolph didn't throw passes down the field Blah Blah Blah you know why because he didn't have to and guess what I'm pretty sure I'm going out on a limb here that the Baltimore Ravens are not scouting podcast right now but they're not listening and want to know what to do. I'm really hoping that's the case because I'm really glad that. Rudolf didn't down the field because he's gone to games enough throwing the ball downfield. Do you know what's going to catch the ravens off guard more than anything next week throwing throwing the ball down the field but we'll talk about next week in a little bit. I am going to open it up to the live chat. If anyone has the numbers they want to throw out. I will now be looking at it if you put it up there before. I didn't see it. There was one thing I did see up there. Bo Yes. I got your question earlier. Part of the reason we're getting started late. Tonight is because I wanted to look that up that I'll talk about that later so it will become an okay here. We go bill. Davis says right. They're twenty four of twenty eight. That's how you move the chains K. Mark Davidson from down under nine versus the bungles angles in the last nine games and that is I think and definitely at least ten ten of the last eleven Bo I'm going to do that questionable. We talk about next week. That's that's going to be a good one. Halley says Raymond's my hobby listening but you know the Patriots. That's a good one. That's a really so oh here we go Ali with another one. How about zero interceptions for Rudolph. That's that's great now. Some people would say that's because he didn't throw the ball down the field or or whatever okay okay. I'M GONNA look at it like that. I'm I mean. I don't know if you all saw or heard. I don't watch the show but I saw it on twitter. You Know Colin cowherd the steelers finally went and he's like all they're done because of what they did to win. I'm like I'm sorry I thought the whole point was to win and some people are like well why they why they use the wildcat on the bengals. You know what you needed your first win. They did what they needed to do to get their win. Now get in get an coachie groom. Figure out what you gotTa to do for next week and I have some ideas for that because I had a great conversation with my father who happened to be in town because some of my kids had some grandparents stuff going on today as for my parents came came down to visit me yesterday and I got to watch the game on TV with my dad both Monday night games this year. I'll with my dad because we will be in section twenty two next to the next Monday night game against the Miami Dolphins. If anyone's going to be there. Let me know come around on and and say hey you gotta. Do is look for the helmet so wait. I gotta get caught back up. Bozo did ask getting without Rudolph even get touched. I caught on a replay. The Post game show and stand sovereign said that he didn't and believe that he even took a hit. That sounds pretty nice okay here. We go how Joseph saying seventeenth straight home Monday tonight wins in a row. That is a great number and I say let's make eighteen the next time they play on Monday night because I want to be there. I'm just trying to look through. Kevin brought up really good point eight sacks down to performance but no sacks on our side. I laid out those two numbers back to back today on the article that that's a really keeping book at the difference in sex you got eight. You gave up none. That's that's That's really good so here. We go there. We go ron says one hundred Jordan forty receiving yards by running backs. I'm assuming that that's I don't know if that's an exact number or not so I I could sit. Look it up but I'm not going to. I did total what I what I thought was. Crazy was both running. Backs had exactly ten Russia's each exactly eight for eight on receptions perceptions. Each now granted. James Connor got three receptions that were really runs because Jalen. Samuels threw him the ball out of the wildcat because he tipped it forward now. Some of you might wonder hey. Why did he toss it forward for someone. WHO's not a quarterback that used to do you use to handing the ball. Now you saying the ball off. That's a much your way for someone. You say a little bit more dangerous because what if he drops it but sometimes that actual handing off if you're not used to it. It's just easy to do a little flip so that really does make a lot of sense so I'm going to try to catch up here before we move on. This was just the numbers from this past week. We're going to talk about some numbers moving forward K. but why not why not just kind of sit back and just take it all in from this wind. It's been awhile. It's been a while because even even the last I mean think about it. The last regular season win the steelers had was against the Cincinnati bengals in week seventeen last year aw but that one didn't quite you didn't get to quite enjoy that one because you're needing some help for the play offs and the help didn't come and even though it was a win. It was just kind of law though I I mean the last time I really got to feel like this was when the steelers beat the Patriots December so Samuel still ate the Andre Johnson. He did a great job yesterday. I'll go talk about the Andre Johnson some because that's something that I told my father for those that don't know the story story of why they claim that I hate Jay Johnson you all if you know Jeff Hartmann and Ryan Anthony Davis how they will take one thing and just roll with if it and during the draft we were communicating lob. We were doing the podcast afterwards we're trying to figure out stuff and before it was announced on TV. Jeff actually text Brian and I and said the pick of John deontay Johnson and I said who check out the American Ninja Warrior podcast for a behind the scenes is look at all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts 'cause. I didn't the DOT Johnson Jr.. I mean that that's a name. It's not super I mean it's it's not very distinguishable. If you know what I mean no a lot of people named common last name I needed some more stuff than they said and then then he said wide receiver from Cleveland like Oh yeah we're either from Alito. I remembered him. I just didn't make the connection with John. Johnson and I said really I'm like I'm like did they have to take him here could have taken with the next one. That's the only thing I ever said about the was I asked is do they need to take him here or was he coulda got because remember they had to third round picks and they just took it off. All Dave hates the picky hits the pick like no. I was just wondering 'cause I mean come on. Even if you like a guy if you like a guy and you take him in in the first route think about this. This is what people have a problem with from the two thousand seventeen draft. The steelers like throw Ed commits so they made sure they so they drafted him. The problem that the that steeler nation had was what he'd been available with their next pick because if he would have been then. Why are you taking them with your first. That was my only question about. Deonte Johnson then as I researched more on him before we even went on the air that day I already knew guess what let Deonte Johnson. He wasn't probably even wasn't going to last till the steelers next pick which wasn't that much later so that's the story there. I'm going to try to get caught back up there but that's what it comes down to hate Johnson. I've been over Deontay Johnson. I play the Andre Johnson in last night did extremely well I did a a small league which of people I didn't know which one and a super large league that I finished very well in but the Andre Johnson I thought he was the key. I want to go ahead and say this because this is going to be a good transition from last week to next week. This told my father when he was here. He was asking me me about Juju. Smith Schuster said I said Juju Smith Schuster is going to have a breakout game in week five against the Ravens. This was before last night's game. He's like by saying that okay and my answer was because tonight which was last night because in week four Deontay Johnson is going to have breakout night and Deonte John's is going to have a big night against the bengals and you know what that's going to happen that means the defenses are going to have to pay attention to the Andre Johnson and guess what's going to happen. Juju is going going to now not be constant focus of everything the steelers passing game and whatever I want before I go onto next week. Let me explain Ed to you. People's like worse. Did you do go back and watch the Andre Johnson touchdown that forty three yard touchdown and they ran across a deep crossing pattern between the Johnson and Juju Smith Schuster. There were three defenders back there. There was a deep defender and basically two guys back on them as they cross. Do you know what all three defenders did. They all went to do they were so worried about Juju that they all flock to do and what happened. Deontay Johnson Wide Open stop and catch the ball they probably could have done a cart wheel and right into the end zone game so although that was down Johnson touchdown if it's not for Juju he's not going to be that wide open so don't think that Juju Smith Schuster is not serving a purpose and the thing that's great about juice shuster is he has the attitude and the mentality to know that hey I'm going to draw this coverage. You're going to get open and you're going to go score and that's great and I still say here comes Juju watch it. Here's coming to try to catch up real quick three zero. TD's allowed. Oh Ron got a good one. How `bout three straight kneel down to and the game. Oh I loved it. Kneel down. That is a fantastic play. and what's funny is you kind of take it for granted added into your game plan for it at an interesting story about that at one point. I think I shared so some people and I know a a lot of people were talking about it that Oh Wow thirteenth I'm not jumping on the thirteen Thirteen and three bandwagon yet right now so all right. I see lots of good numbers on here. I can't even get to them all here. You know what I'm bringing up saint people once again in two solid catches by Gannett. Here's what's crazy that one penalty right before vignettes good catch. I say good catch because he had to come back at the ball and go to the ground and get it raw through that ball no-one but vanette could could catch it. No one could catch that except for him which was almost it was almost a throw away but the the receiver made a great play on it but the reason they were put in a long situation because they got that too many men in the huddle and you solvent the net running off. What was he's brand new so he got confused with the personnel sounds like and didn't realize he shouldn't have been on the field and if that's that's GonNa be the one hiccup he had it a brand new player. I will take that so Levinson Vanessa's Levinson okay some some some Juju awesome so here we go. I'm going to say let's move on. We're GONNA we're. GonNa talk about this week and my question was this yes. The steelers slowed down the BENGALS air attack. Are they ready for the Ravens Ground Assault Cincinnati came in with. Let's look at some of these numbers. Here's the passing yards for the Cincinnati bengals the first three weeks of the season three hundred ninety five byard two hundred ninety one yards two hundred and forty yards then against the steelers one hundred and two yeah they they took what what was their strength and they stopped it now. Let's look at the that the yeah I said the Bengals let's look at their rushing yards throughout the season so the receiving yards for for the bengals gone down every game and then that big jump down to where the steelers just shut him down and knocked him around they had against Seattle thirty four rushing yards San Francisco twenty five rushing yards then they had sixty six rushing yards. They had their for most rushing yards of the season against the steelers which was seventy three last night now. I meant to but I ran out of time. I really wanted to check and say hey how many of those rushing yards came aim in the fourth quarter when the steelers almost like you want to run it now go ahead. I know they had at least one run over ten yards but I can remember off the top of my head so you take that away and they they don't have the big rushing attack again but it kind of seems like the way the steelers the question. Chicago is the way the steelers defense set up are they more set up to stop the pass more than the run can make pot const God. Could they possibly just get gashed by the run. The forty niners ran a lot against them. Seattle was fairly successful running against them. We're not even I don't even WanNa talk about one. That's just that to me that doesn't even feel like the same team so the steelers although that was great what they you did against the pass and I think that can continue against most teams that they play. What are they. GonNa do to stop the run so I'm not saying that they can't and I'm not saying that they won't. I'm just saying that they need to. I'm excited about the steelers moving forward. Some people think I mean are less excited over a win. They wanted the steelers to tell them what was going on with the season and they were more concerned about knowing that the steelers were bad by them losing the Bengals so that way they knew but beating eighty the bengals pretty good. They feel like it's still more of an unknown I don't. I don't know what's wrong with some people i. I really don't get it that they can't take any joy in the victory. Even one is that that decisive. That's the thing if the steelers won this game twenty eight to twenty seven against Cincinnati I mean how would you felt. I mean this. This was domination if they if it wasn't for the fumble early in the game that Setup Cincinnati for their field goal with the only scored five yards after they got the fumble. It might have been a shutout after a member. Both of the steelers turnovers were also when Cincinnati was in scoring range. They the first strip sack they were in a field goal range going down there. They took it away the other one. Yes it was on fourth down but the whole so they could have got a field goal there but there's tails. Robertson didn't help so that's the big thing that I'm worried about because let's look at the ravens rushing yards so so far this season they have against Miami. They rushed for two hundred and sixty five yards against Arizona. One hundred eighty two yards against Kansas city still not a great great defense two hundred three yards against Cleveland who was supposed to be known for this great defense. They rushed for one hundred and seventy three yards so the ravens are I would say they're averaging right around two hundred yards a game but see because that's plus sixty five plus sixty eight until he might as eighteen averaging over two hundred yards game so the question is can steeler slowdown that run game and what's is going to happen is. It's going to be tough to tell because what happens if the steelers hold them to one hundred twenty five yards rushing. Is that a win. I mean from from defensive standpoint. I don't know bottom line is they're going to have to not just let the ravens run all over them because once again the only staff that matters comes down to the scoreboard. They've got to put more points up on the board than what they give up. I don't care if if the steelers give up four hundred yards rushing if they're going to end up winning the game came sorry I just glanced over the live chat and I I was told I'm a mathematical miracle. All I was doing was just looking at where it was above or below two hundred so that's my numbers my numbers come down to the steelers yes they. They only gave up seventy three yards rushing this past week but the Ravens had their worst week rushing with one hundred seventy three yard rushing. What what kind of numbers would that be like. I said I don't really care how much they give up. As long as it's as long as it means they're stopping drives getting stops and are and stuff out there are no. There's toss events. Williams coming back this week. He's very helpful against the run but I don't know about you. All I thought both linebackers played pretty great last night. I'm mark. Baron seemed to be back to what I was expecting. He was. I said it before he just felt off against San Francisco. Something just didn't seem team right and as some people brought up with their numbers Devin Bush my goodness his numbers fantastic. He's like a third in the in the League tackles tied for first with fumbled recovery's. He's just getting better and better every week you know. What are you know. These guys get better that are rookies. Deontay Johnson is looking better. Zach gentry did not appear to be a liability this week which was the biggest thing for him in only his second game getting a helmet. blow had a question that I want to bring up. He actually sent me an email to ask me this question. Austin and the question was it was about running. two tight end sets the steelers. Do they do it well. I will honest I went through and looked at their sets. This year's kind of tough because things have changed so much McDonnell was out this week. You know last this weekend. McDonnell ain't grumble out for part of the game and all that other stuff so I thought let's look at last year. Let's see the last year last year out of the one thousand. Rosen and fifty-one offensive plays at the steelers ran they ran a formation that had two tight ends one hundred fifty six place that was fourteen point eight percent China the time they ran three tight end set on three different places and I remember some of them because they were better designed place so if you look at where they had two who or more on the field it was fifteen percent of the time so if you're talking about you know running running fifty plays in a game. I'm just gonNA round it off the fifty 'cause that's easy. You're talking about you know eight plays her so with two tight ends. If you're talking about having both MacDonald and Vanette I would see that now I could see that number going up some because I was really encouraged with what I saw. I thought I saw a a Jesse. James type tight end if not more but I don't want to jump the gun too much. I don't WanNa say more too much but he enjoyed his. I mean listen to him. Talk was great he's saying how much fun it is to play in. Pittsburgh and went and everything and he had a blast. He joked teammates that that he's the only guy that's two zero at. Heinz field this year because he was on Seattle when they went there so I could see them. I don't see a drop off from that fifteen percent. If the two of them are healthy I could see it as even an increase so no very are now. Sometimes those two tight end sets last year were also when it was an extra lineman so we'll just we'll see how that plays it out but that is definitely a possibility. I've talked and talked and talked about. I want to know what you guys are thinking about it for this week. What kind of numbers I lied to type it in here and and say that I'm now paying attention to the live live chat and I'm going to look at what everyone says. I want to remind you all I didn't say before. If you want your number or your question or anything brought up for sure you could use super chat feature that is you type in your comment. You hit the dollar sign you donate any amount of money into the show it just kind of goes into the pot for various various things giveaways giveaways things of that sort and then. I'll definitely make sure I'm watching it right here to make sure I don't think I've missed any because they're highlighted related on my phone. They're not highlighted on the screen and there we go. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown forecast your avengers of college football podcast it says here in the script onto riff what that means and basically what I mean is it's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants we warren middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP so now I gotTa Start Looking back from where I actually typed that in there and pay attention attention what you are saying so. Let's see what you'll have to say. Okay so big rush says he's worried about forty eight and seventy eight meaning. I guess he's saying Bundu Pre and big. Al Both of them had good night's last night. I mean sometimes what you WANNA see from. Your players is. How do they respond to adversity. That's one thing people were wondering about Dante Moncrieff but he did get home at last night when she did not the week before he played three three snaps from the reports that I saw. I don't even notice him on the field. I didn't know that he played any so here. We go from Ryan says if Sunday's jujubes breakout game one James Washington's that's the thing I said that is a prediction before the last game I could even see James Washington's breakout game even come in before juice it could be because that would help Juju but I'm not sure what's going on with jeans Washington. I don't I know my. My Dad asked me the same question for all. I know it could be that now that he's he drew so much attention for being successful in the preseason the the now he's going against better defenders. It might be that Mason. Rudolph is getting is needing to get more comfortable throwing the ball downfield it could also be the teams teams no hey. This is what Washington runs. He only runs deep and that so we're going to be on it there's a lot of differences that could be and I have it specifically broke down his his play in his route specifically to answer that so we'll see about here we go getting bent with. How many all purpose yards will samuels have. I don't know if he's going to have as much this week because I don't think that they're going to run the same kind of deal I don't. I mean about saying that they won't be the wildcat at all but I don't think they're going to do it. As much I loved it. The Ravens have to plan for they've got to spend time now. That's time out of their schedule that they could be using planning on other things and worrying about this that or the other thing that they now have to plan on. What are we gonNA do when they if they come out and wildcat so that's pretty good okay here we go how about Rudolf Juju for forty five yards that comes from Caleb. I'd like to see that here. We go. Oh someone says believe Bush gets to Saxon Lamar as he scrambles around. That's a good question. It all depends on how they're going to play it how they're going to Ski Matt that for him to account for him. I don't I don't WANNA say he gets two sacks for sure but I'm GonNa say for for Mark. I'm GonNa say I think he gets to pretty good shots on him. They might be after a small gain but I think he's GonNa come up and and maybe get him a couple of times. It'd be nice big rush expanded on his he says forty and seventy need to be the most consistent and everyone else will fall in line. I know last week when guested on the hangover and I had to say two words to describe but depre- said consistently inconsistent. I WANNA see that consistent play from him he he I even saw him. Tracking tracking down outside runs to other side of the field even though as five yards downfield you can't expect too much more from from guy when they're running that far away from you but he didn't give up at all okay here we go ron says this week ball control thirty five minutes of offense that to keep the ravens from having the ball enough. I'll take it I'll take it. The biggest thing for that to happen is that the steelers are going to have to have completed passes and successful runs. That's what takes in order to keep clock running them the answer. This is knows from Dennis. He wants to know if JEFF GETS ENOUGH DONATIONS TO BUY JERSEYS. Can I have the second one. No the second one goes to me because Jeff and I gotTa made a pact of when we were going to get Rudolph Jerseys so that's what's going on there. Kevin says that about having a break Brian Williams being injured. He's defensive defensive tackle. I guess would it be his official role for the Ravens because possibly going to have to sack day from the Ravens. I don't know that he's GonNa be out this week. I know he was out this past week but I heard there's a chance he could come back. We will find out for shore where that's going to be progressing more tomorrow. When injury ports come out and I see that w h h h sorry about Save Save Jeff. That was his whole comment from last night like it was safe. Fares doesn't want him to sell his kidney because the people were making it sound like Jeff Poor last night but Jephson Right Ron says Washington blocking a lot last night yes he was yes he was it was a couple of times on some run plays with Washington where I saw him block lock guy out and this was one of the third downs where they the steelers got blown up and lost a good yardage that that he was blocking out and the running back ran out and ran right into the guy that Washington was blocking now might have been because there wasn't successful enough blocking going on the inside but if you're if you're wide receivers coming across the formation in motion and blocking a guy out the running back has to go in behind him. If you try to go out the direction he's blocking him. He just pushing him right to you and that's not gonNa work and I did see that one time but I saw Washington getting his you know his face mask in there to do some blocking and that that was really nice so how'd that Andrei How do you feel about Randy. Fingers play calls last night loved it. Some people like all the wildcats Gimmick. No no no no no. He showed that he's willing to do whatever they have to do to adjust in order to be successful so that's why I wanted to see anything different like the flea flicker. They ran before like different formations like the wildcat. I don't care who's running. Who's doing what did show some innovation. I thought that might have been one of his best called Games in his two years. So someone said about the Raven Shutdown Odell donuts but Juju Game Ravens are actually struggle more in their secondary so we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens there. I'm not sure for someone did bring up with four minutes left. In the second half second three Juju was wide open twenty yards down the field across the middle title and Mason dumped it off the sandwich I down. I'll be honest with you. If it's second three yeah. That could be a time you take the shot but I'm not gonNA fall guy for getting the first down so yeah one of those things. I know we had a super. Chad coming up here somewhere. I'm gonNA find it eventually. I think this is coming soon from Caleb says do. I think we'll see Mason Rudolph. Go go deep James Washington okay so all right. I gotta I gotTa make sure because we only have a few minutes left here. I gotTa make sure I get to these questions so here. We go this from Chris. He says did you see anything getting special for MINGKA's play. Yes I saw him not giving anything up to where they felt like they could even do anything in his direction. That's special what a quarterback won't even go at you that special when the defensive line and the linebackers are making plays and making tackles and your safeties aren't making a lot of tackles because even in the run game the run aren't getting their that special the best first thing that could happen for the steelers is for Minka Fitzpatrick to have zero stat line because they don't even throw his way and he doesn't have to come up to make play. That's an essence what happened last night but he wasn't he was there just the threat of him made it harder under for them to do anything and he didn't have to make plays because other people were making plays before he did. It's kind of the whole idea of the one sack last night that I think ended up being. Ah Von Hargrave was it wasn't if the steelers we're going to get a sack who is GonNa get it and because of where he's playing at free safety fifty fitzpatrick does not get a chance to come up and make tackles. That's a good thing for the steelers because the ball's not getting to them and that's great so I love what I'm seeing kaminker. He's just an did. It seem like the defense had any problem with communicating or no one who is doing why last night didn't seem too. That's another thing that Fitzpatrick hatrick brings That's something special that I would say that he brings I gotTa make sure I gotTa grab other super. Chat question here as soon as a Kansas. I'm looking forward and I'm looking for now here. We go. This is from Raymond. This is all caps he shouting at us. He said I own y'all we had we had to do was used running backs in the passing game like the Patriots next game Washington and Holt need to go deep. They won't expect it. I like it. I like it a lot Raymond. Thanks for the five dollars into the tip jar. I'll take that that sounds good do what they are but they might not be expecting and it's so funny that I saw people. Blow this up on twitter. Every anytime people said anything about the steelers plan of attack last night that's not sustainable while they can't do that what throwing throwing the ball within three yards of the last scrimmage. I mean that's the Patriots. Mo that's. Tom Brady's done for years and yet Tom. Tom Brady so wonderful because that's what he's doing work in the ball getting a guys opening scheme you know Tom. Brady is not just costly chuck down the field now. It's not that he's unwilling you too. He just doesn't have to all the time once. Rudolf shows that he's a little bit more willing to do it. steelers will be in pretty good in pretty good shape so so. I'm getting a lot of people that were that are responding to other questions asking questions. I'm trying to get some of these. I'm traveling to skip over some because you guys have been once again. You guys are a great. You're all over the live chat and I love it wrong. Don't keep bringing up on stuff but for some reason it just jumps out at me maybe because maybe because he's typing having my name but he says are wide receivers found their inner hines board. That's a good way to put it especially with James Washington. He did a pretty good job. There Umberto Burto says Ravens are going down. steelers will win. Here's the deal with this game coming up. Bo mink island except you forgot to h on unmake. I'm sorry I don't want to be the spelling police so here's the thing with this game with the Ravens. No one was really sure who the steelers were. Our donors really sure who the Bengals were the steelers had lost three games but like we'd said that the team that they had lost two were eight one going into the weekend ten and one going into Monday day those are they lost a teams that are good teams so you didn't really know or the steelers really that bad dad or are. They just playing good competition. You kind of have the same question about the Ravens. The Ravens had two big wins early on the season but both neither one of those teams have one again that they've beaten okay. Cleveland won two games. They beat the jets who have not won a game. The only the only team that either the the browns or the ravens that have beaten that have won a game is the browns being the ravens so in other words persons lost to an AFC obse north team. That's that how do I wait almost at the wrong okay any team who lost to an end to an AFC north team that actually actually has a win is a fellow AFC north team so in other words. Someone had to win that game so we don't really know where everything said. I think this game with the Ravens coming up is really going to tell what's really going on with the north. It's also going to help tell. Maybe maybe it'll tell muscle not. San Francisco San Francisco that good because the steelers are good but they just lost the San Francisco also going to see what they do against the rare not the ravens against the browns ounce they could do us a favor on Monday night by taking out the browns so guy just been a really good show. We've here we go. I'm going to say this because Michael. Go said this. He's like I see comments but only four likes like the video. I'M NOT GONNA sit on ear and screaming for likes but it's nice for people to say okay that that to go there so he did bring up the what was up with Passer Colin Holton. Here's what's what's sad that was a really bad call and at the NFL is going to give you a chance to overturn a bad call then you gotta overturn in it the fact that they even have that as an option to take care of bad calls and then. I stood still stick with a bad call. I really don't understand it does really see Blake. It goes against I'm not gonNA say just the steelers. I'm just going to say against certain coaches. It seems like there's certain coaches out there that no matter what they're not gonna WanNa challenge so but everyone wanted him to challenge that because everyone thought he was going to win it. You know you see our friends talk about Tom not winning challenge. I don't put that on Tom One. He should have challenged is that they just screwed up. They just grew up the the review so I yelled at from both being a grammar Nazi. I trust me. I live with a grammar Nazi so I am definitely not one. I'm just affected by one so I'm sorry here we go. Andrei says I'm expecting writing good. steelers ravens rivalry like always yes agree came so here we here we go. We're getting caught up guys. We're here at the end. I'm GonNa say something about this and I want to throw out there. I'll probably talk about it more as it gets closer. I actually have some steelers tickets to some more home games available might I just cut out full signal. Okay not sure what happened there but I'm back but I still have my Some of my tickets I say were lower deck and Zona browns game. I have the bills game name if anyone would be interested in them you can just send me an email. I'll put it here in the live chat while I'm still trying to try trying to talk S. T. L. Are you guys got to love that. I can't talk and and type at the same time but that's just kind of the way it is but if anyone's interested in tickets let me know so here's the other thing. I actually have two tickets to the rams game but they're not my tickets. They're actually my brother's tickets which were tickets that I got from him. Him and another friend of mine got season tickets like a week before the season started and they knew they were going to have trouble getting rid of him. I told him hey hey we'll we'll take one off hand and do give away another game that my brother has a game that him and I were scheduled to go to ourselves and that's the rams game in November number. So if anyone is interested they're like two hundred and forty bucks for two tickets of going to the rams game. If you want to contact me about going to that one all you meet up with either before after that that game if anyone wants to buy those tickets I put my I put my email out there in the live chat for anyone. WanNa know you can contact acting that way. I got to put that out there. W H said I'll take two tickets for by week. I know what you mean if you've never been dines field. It takes me hours to get there but it's worth it. It's it's just a great experience and and I love it but Umberto says the steelers were going a six game win streak. At least I'm not ready to say that but the focus right now is steelers. GotTa start doing what coach Tomlin says. GotTa Stack Winds. It's gotTa Stack wins so let's go and start stacking winds in order to stack wins. You gotta get one nine. You GotTa get another one so let's get that win against the ravens climb back in even more into the in into the AFC north. I'm trying to remember. Let's see a because the browns of who they've lost two. I'm not see near would really be a big tiebreaker is going to say if the Browns Lost Austin steelers when they would have one of those tiebreakers that would come to conference record. It's too early for that. Let's get right back up in there. I would actually this quick Dave. How long have you been a steelers fan. I've been a steelers fan for as long as I can remember because I grew up in the fear of influence influence Pittsburgh I would call it's funny because both myself and Brian Anthony Davis and Jeff Hartmann all grew up in different states. It's but we're all in the sphere of influence of Pittsburgh because I was in far western Maryland where all of our TV and radio from Pittsburgh Jeff from wheeling and Brian from Johnstown so we were all in that sphere of influence so I I remember a kid always wonder you know get home from Church land living ever in Florida. Watch the steelers. That's just Kinda. What what we did. Although my my dad's still likes to say tell the story about him and my mom did not see that the steeler first super bowl win because it was the super bowl and someone gave them tickets to go to the woods game that day so they went and watched the penguins while the super bowl was going on but they had had this stuff on the big screen and announced it I mean even in the seventies came so thank you for joining man great show lots of great comments comments riding get to get get to bring all of them up but hey we're happy. It's a great time to be a steelers fan today after a win. Don't let those those people telling you that doesn't matter because it's the bengals get you down. Don't let people say well. It was just using the wildcat. You're going to be able to do that all season now. The steelers did what they ETA do in week four to get a win now. They just have to do something else in week five to get a win so let's start stacking. Those winds remember are were coming at you with podcast every day. You're dealing with seven podcasts week this week technical. You get eight if you started with Sunday because because we had to throw in an extra one over the weekend but so we did miss one we doubled up today. We already had the hangover earlier yet. Stat Geek tonight You'll have standards of standard tomorrow night. steelers preview on Thursday yeah said at Friday burning question on Saturday. Hey I'm not sure who the host of that is for all. 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Yeah, I Said It: Diontae Johnson is the Steelers next superstar

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Yeah, I Said It: Diontae Johnson is the Steelers next superstar

"Woke him back steeler fans to another episode of Year? I said it as you can see and hear this is not Lance Williams coming at you today. Lance is having a very festive weekend with the graduation of his daughter from high school as she is getting ready to move on to college and I do believe study neuro science if I can remember correctly as Lance was filling all of this in on that here behind the steel curtain. Instead you have to put up with a editor in waiting Dave Scofield from behind the curtain For those of you who may be tuning in for the first time. I am set to take over the editing editor duties from Jeff. Hartmann on Monday. I mean I've I've taken over the editor duties already but everything becomes official without Jeff. Come Monday but we wish jeff the best. He moves onto deke Pittsburgh sports in his role there. And we really appreciate all these done for both the website and podcasts and his years there I know when it comes to the website when people were just reading articles and seeing articles. It's it's not quite the same as with the PODCASTS. Especially those who are watching on Youtube therefore it will be somebody different to see and here but just not going to be a stranger. He's Gonna. He's going to help us out every once in a while so you can always look forward to that. Land is with US Mike. I said we're he's he's taking the weekend off as he's got a lot of stuff going on with that you know especially in in the time that we're dealing with with with everything with the with the pandemic that all these celebrations are being done in a much different manner. So we WANNA make sure that lance can still take care of everything he with his family and that special time with them to where it's This moment can still be one that they can look back on as a family and hopefully not him have to worry about doing all these podcasts. So you've got me and here I am and I'm kind of excited to do a show by myself and it's been a little bit since I've done that and but I'm not by myself because I already have plenty of people in the live chat getting ready to join in. I'm hoping that we can bring up. Bring up the topic here. And then maybe turn it over the live chat for great discussion there so my topic for. Yeah I said it. You know I gotTa try be my best to think all right. Well you know He Lancy. He drives the plot something that you might not expect and this might not be shocking to a lot of people but the way. I said it I I hope everyone knows to take. This is kind of taken to the next level and that is deontay. Johnson is the next steelers superstar. I mean superstardom. I mean full-blown taking taking the League by storm where people were going to notice and know who he is and not. Just be that guy. He's going to be someone who steps it up and teams have the game plan around. There was a report out this week. I mean maybe I don't know that if I don't say a new report I would say the best way to say. It is confirmation of some of some various details. I know that there was a picture of deontay Johnson getting surgery not long. After the two thousand eighteen season ended. We found out for sure. I mean it was speculated that it was a sports hernia injury but we you know whether or not that was fully confirmed or not. You know there's a lot of different things but that's what it was. He had a sports hernia surgery. Which is one of those that doesn't take an mench recovery time not as not as much as like when the guys have been getting. Their niece coped in season and missing only two or three weeks. You know a little bit more than that but not something. That's going to affect him into scheduled training camp and things of that sort but not only that. Come to find out that in week two Johnson suffered a groin injury. That wasn't enough to hold them out of practice holding a games just enough to be a nuisance just enough to not even wind up on the injury report there was a it wasn't something that was going to to threaten his status for the week and and now someone would say well. What if he? What if he reinjured it and therefore had leave the game? Well that would that would be a substantial injury. That injury will really what be would cause Qasim to leave a game. He might be more susceptible to that because of what he was dealing with. But it's not one of those things that the steelers are. GonNa get in trouble for not reporting this on the injury report or anything of that nature because it did not affect his play it did not affect US status but he was dealing with it all season which met. Maybe you know probably wasn't ask one hundred percent when it comes to speed. I know I saw some comments by the so curtain where people said you know that makes sense. Because I always felt like he still had a little bit more left in the tank to to look like he wasn't going quite full speed from what I was kind of anticipating and that might have been part of the problem that he has really inhibited by by this injury since week. Two and now he's hoping to to might even be today that he to be cleared for all activities. He Stole Training and working out. You know go in contact with Ben Rothlisberger and building that relationship and hoping to work out and you know. Take take some throats from him. Even more is what it is but look at what he did last year when he was injured his stats for for his rookie year. In two thousand. Nineteen was fifty nine receptions. Six hundred eighty yards and five touchdowns receiving touchdowns not counting his his punt. Return touchdown against the cardinals. So that's six total touchdowns as a rookie. Every one of those touchdowns came after he was injured so we saw glimpses of some of some really great potential stuff last year. I mean even even what the steelers got out of the day Johnson last year. You know you'd want to approve a little bit. But if he didn't even make a massive jump he still performed so well was a rookie but that would still be acceptable. But if you look at it it's at the steelers historically there wide receivers. They really make that jump in to a lot of their players not just wide receivers but a lot of their players. Make that big jump in your to. And with the ought Johnson coming off of injury being able to fill that role having other receivers that will that the defense will have to pay attention to. He's got the chance to just come out and have a monster season there are. There are some people that are going far. I've I've seen it out there to say you know what? Juju doesn't need to be a number one because deontay Johnson's GonNa grab that role led you just keep in the number two? We was what Mr Third and fifth was here and the Johnson can he can step up and take that role and they're just both gonna make them both better. I don't know if that's really how it needs to be. I think Dante Johnson can play in that position and Juju can maybe do more workout slot. They'll both benefit from each other. You've also got James Washington Chase Klay. Pool. I mean there are other options there. The more threat every receiver is the more. It's going to benefit the other ones so I think deontay Johnson has the potential to step up and just have an absolute monster season put himself establish himself as a top receiver in the NFL. Not just with the steelers now when I say. Top Top. Top receiver doesn't necessarily like top five but enough that people really GonNa pay attention to him. If you're one of those fantasy football people out there that really enjoy the year long keeping my team. Same Leagues that I know. Jeff Hartmann despises and that's why you likes daily fantasy or weekly fantasy This is a guy that you could possibly grab it. A good spot. That could really breakout this year. And I think so I think steeler fans that are in league with non steeler fans might have an advantage of being able to grab some like that who could really step up. I see him as as a guy that could explode this year. And I'm I'm going to call it. That's going to be a bold prediction of mine that I think the update Johnson is going to absolutely explore. I don't know if it's going to be that he's gonNA crush it with yards. I don't know if it's going to be that he's GonNa crush with touchdowns it might be both. It might be one or the other but either way he's going to. He's going to do some pretty amazing stuff. And he's going to get some big noted notoriety around the league and he's going to be the guy that's going to be that's going to be stepping up to be the next big thing in years to come. So that's what I had to say about it and I will be honest for those of you joining me in the live chat. I see the people in there and and and giving some comments or whatnot. I have not had a chance to look at it yet so I am going to throw in my word of saying comments and from this point on anything that you all say. I'll try to make sure that I can bring it up. What do some comments will do your thoughts on the subject? And then we'll maybe take a few questions here why we while we do this show here on a on a lovely Friday afternoon. You can possibly see that. The Sun is shining here. When I am in Maryland. Although it was within the last couple of hours we had hail coming down from a nice. Little storm rolled through. But it's it's other than that now. It's a beautiful day and I just looking forward to spend some time here with the with the steelers with the steelers family and just to see what all you all have to say about and I just got a big jump in what. I'm saying so pardon me food as we have here from Z. Smooth he says we're just like the packers we always hit the mark. Drafting receivers always. I don't know that I'm GonNa go with that statement because frankly I don't know that it's the packers. It always hit the mark with drafting receivers. I think it's the steelers I don't think the steelers like the packers. I think the packers might be like the steelers. But I'm not completely in tune with the packers and everything that they do. I The steelers set the standard in the NFL when it comes to drafting wide receivers and getting great talent. I know of course. There's the bus that you get up there. People will instantly want to bring up Lima Suite of course. But you can't hit on every draft pick and even when you're drafting this many wide receivers you're not gonna hit on every single one but the steelers have done a very nice job at that. The faneuil wants to know where where to chase? Klay in Washington fit in? I think they all fit in exactly how we'll find out this fall whenever the steelers hopefully get out on the field. We'll see how they fit in. I I don't know that they're going to ask a lot of clay pool right off the bat. They usually don't outta their rookies. I was surprised they asked. I went on record saying before the season last year. I didn't even know of Johnson would be active at the beginning of the season. Because that's something that's common with steelers wide receivers. Jordy was definitely an exception. He busted onto the scene big time as a rookie. James Washington had some games that he was inactive as a rookie. As we as many of US know Martavis Bryant. He was inactive for his first. I think the gives first four games his rookie year. I remember being there for for one of them at the stadium and seeing him and him there so that's just one of those one of those things that they will try to sometimes may try to eat them in but if he's out there you know showing that he needs to get on the field the steelers gonNA find a way to get him on the field. I remember Washington. We forget about it. I've messed it up on a show before that Washington is who is who led the steelers in receiving yards last year with his play. So there's going to be. There's I know there's only one football but we know that the our future hall of fame quarterback is coming back. I say we meeting steelers fans. He's our our beloved guy. We know that he's coming back Barring a major setback. And he's going to. He's he didn't. He didn't get a new elbow to come and hand the ball off. He's still gonNA WANNA flip around. And the more people you have including Eric Hebron along with Vance McDonald. He's going to have people to throw the ball to and that's the best thing that you can have is multiple options game. We had a very similar question because says a whereas Washington that may not think. He's GonNa Find I. I think Washington what you've got to remember. I kind of like there. There might be times where it's Washington and clay on the field together if they're if they're in like if there's only two receivers on the field so it would be either like a twenty one or twelve formation and you went to guys out there I could see both of them because clay was a Guy. That's not afraid to stick his nose in there and block. We'll see we'll see how that translates to the NFL level. But we've already watched James Washington. Make some fantastic blocking plays as a wide receiver. I was I was at the game. One they were going up against Miami on Monday night and they and they hit deontay Johnson where they basically you know. They rushed everybody and dropped. Everyone and Rudolf hit him across the middle and he broke that all the way to the end zone. Steve Washington just put down a couple of and there was other games in there too. Where he just you saw him as a wide receiver. Just come in. And just she eight a defender of the way. He blocked him so trust me. And they're they're gonNA find a way to the ball to. I don't think there's going to be an odd man out. I just think they're gonNA have to figure out how they use them. All came flip brought up something here that I think is interesting because this actually wanted to say says Smith Schuster as big prices himself out of the steelers market if he has a bad year he's gone and looks for new home. Here's the thing that's interesting Smith. Schuster could have a big year but if Johnny Johnson also has a big year the steelers could be faced with the question of. Hey we still got him for two more seasons under his rookie deal but we know that. Eventually we're going to have to pay Dante Johnson so it might be one of those questions as well It Ju just one of those guys. It's going to be tough to figure out his contract and we can all speculate all we want. I'm I'm going to say I'm going to trust the GM to figure out to do what they need to do. A So it's going be interesting. How this all plays out because Juju could have a fantastic year but of jump day. Johnson's they're having a fantastic ear as well. It's GonNa make for some. It might be a tough choice because you can still have someone else for cheaper for a couple more years and then may be able to pay them when when the time comes in came. Donald said I don't agree with either Dave Packer Suck. We don't want we don't Wanna I don't know how the draft wide receivers. I don't really pay attention. I mean I know wouldn't receive receivers. You're good but I never pay attention if they were drafted by them or not. That's just I don't know about you. All when it comes to the draft I focus on. I don't care what people got. You know that's why I do the mock stuff I do everything else but I'm I'm more excited of to to find out the results rather than who's it going to be because like I've said you all before there's nothing worse than fallen in love with a player only to find out that there were purple. It's terrible we don't want to have that happen. So I like to throw my thoughts out there and stuff as as part of being on this format both in the written word and with the podcast but at the same time I'm ultimately waiting to see who is one of them new member of the steelers and then really get excited about them and for as for people to buy the teams. I really think about him as much. I'd I'd I care about him when the steelers are preparing for them but I don't really look back as to where they were drafted everything else. You're talking about you. Know Top five draft pick. That's a little bit different because you know everyone talks about the top. Five draft picks and commentators will constantly remind you about that being at the top the draft. So that's kind of how I feel about that so As as said he says Judas too young to let him go he's a beast of a kid that's the one thing that jujubes got got going for him. Whether hopefully in Pittsburgh or somewhere else is that he'll have four years after this year who have four years. Nfl experience and he'll still only be. I'm pretty sure at the time he'll be will only be twenty. Four people probably correct me on that. I know he was twenty. He came into the League. So I'm pretty sure right now. He's twenty three and twenty four It's it's crazy it. He he is so young. Just that's just how it works. I mean they were. They were rookies last year. On the steelers that were older than Juju in his third year. So that's how the steelers operate with with With some of those draft picks is to try to get the guys younger now this year. They didn't go they didn't use. That strategy is much. They really didn't they didn't say. Hey we're just we're GONNA make sure we get the young guys and everything else they they they didn't they just took. They thought fit well for what they were doing. north talk wants to know. Could we occasionally see claiborne? Not Tight end roll for player to if he ends up starting as a as a wide receiver. It's going to be interesting to see how they use them. He's a big. I like that. The whole reason Chase Klay Pool was on my radar as possible. Pick to the steelers was because of you all the users and some comments and some emails that I got saying. Hey is you know this is before the steelers signed Ron that they said could this guy be an answer? Because he could fill two roles he could fill. He can help wide receiver. He could help a tight end. You know. I don't know if that's all the steelers are gonNA use him. I don't know if they're using that way as a rookie. Either but it'll be interesting to see how how he evolve as a player with them. We'll have to check it out and to me. It's exciting to see what they can do. There's someone who says that Jude. Ach Says Judy doesn't have the explore sniffs or the size and he says get rid of him. I. I'm not ready to write off. Ju Ju it's kind of hard to hold. The injury plagued season of two thousand and nineteen against almost any offensive player. I understand that you can but at the same time I a little bit more willing to see how different players bounceback for the most part. So okay Let's see what else do we got here? So I know some people just commented on other people's stuff this is good one from Logan dealer. Joe said the Johnson had fifty nine catches last year. Just clay have a chance to have fifty nine catches his rookie year. He says he doesn't think that's honestly it's really going to depend on a variety of things and the biggest one and this is the thing about people like all his Washington off guy out there. Just got the odd guy out or you know what's probably going to happen. Guys are going to get dinged up. Guys are going to miss time. But because you've got a great core solid players Publi Louis so I mean we say potentially Klay Pool because he was the steelers first pick of the draft which was in the second round that that you're hoping he lives up to expectations. So you have that that they have a. They have a great group so something happens. Prime example last year third round draft. Pick Justin Lane. We said it would be better for lane to not even have to be forced into duty. He didn't play defensive snap last year because the guys ahead of him or doing a great job didn't get injured. The only time deal with injury was the game in them in in Los Angeles against the chargers. So that's just one of those things that it was kind of Nice that they didn't have to force playing time onto him and that could be what happens with Klay Poll. They might choose to still get him out there still doing things but not make him have to step up and do stuff but if obviously if they if things happen where getting thin wide receiver. He's going to have to do that so I think. There's just so many extenuating circumstances to answer that. I'm I can't remember what what I projected back on the STAG podcast. That that I did I I never. I don't think it was that many. I think it was for some reason I was thinking it was in the thirties. But I'll have to go back and check that out. That's a good question came cre- wants to know DC Klay pool being in the in the running for rookie of the year. I don't because of how steal the steelers. Use their rookies. What I do the the way that's going to happen is if he is forced. Either one has forced to step in due to injury or to just. Is it player that they just can't keep off the field when when when talent shows itself? You can't keep it off the field when it's ready to go. I'm not I know the steelers mentality of let's not force it so therefore you might not see too much of early. Which really ends up. What's really needed to be considered with rookie of the year? But that's how it would be nice if if he gets into that conversation. I just don't I just don't anticipate it. That's that's the ceiling. That's the ceiling for is being up for this year's being for rookie of the year came so so here we go from five star. Matchup says what do you think? The target share works out between the whiteouts like Johnson Juju Hebron Washington fans clay. I think that's going to change based on. I mean we could say that now but it could be completely different and week to week. Twelve based on our players are playing if what? I'm saying as a whole premise of this Said it is true and the Today Johnson. Bus Out and is the next superstar. He's going to be getting a lot of attention and as he gets a lot of attention. That's going to open up some other targets for other people now if it's Juju that comes out and right off. The Bat is instantly showing that he's he's back into two thousand eighteen form. He's going to get a lot of attention. And then that means we're going to be more more targets for someone like Johnson and company. So that's just kind of the nature of how it goes sometimes sometimes being Vegan. I the people that benefit that people that aren't being considered the guy so if Eric Brin becomes an enormous red zone threat early in the season and let's say he's catching. Let's say the first two weeks he has. You know three or four touchdowns then you're going to see either Vance McDonald whether they're on the field at the same time or not or or definitely the wide receivers getting getting more opportunities in the red zone because teams are GonNa have to focus so much on him so it really who I think. Steps up early is going to dictate how things play out later. But that's just you know from a former high school coach. That's how you that's how you do it you you. You're going off the scouting report. The next thing you know you've got one player you know of course with the NFL. It's a whole different level of this. Like you got a player that you like all we gotta look out for him will next thing you know. You're so focused on him. You didn't even realize that the guy that the guy next to him was just as much as just as much as a threat and if you leave your guard down that he's going to be the one that Burns you daredevil. Says he's an automated out Switzer but he's currently living in Ben's garage so he's making the team and it's not that there's not spots on the team for people We'll just have to see how that all plays out and if we have you know notice last year camp. They were guys stepping up and doing things that weren't necessarily being talked about before camp. There's people that you thought could maybe step up and early be something and they and they didn't so once once you get to your depth pieces that's kind of the way that it goes came marks was saying how he doesn't agree that they should take a receiver at certain rounds of the draft of her bigger needs. I'm all about taking taking a player that you think that like Juju Smith Schuster. They didn't need a wide receiver in the second round of that draft but what the thoughts that they had the feelings they had towards Juju when he was still there when they were picking like. We can't pass this guy up in the steelers. Don't take a position that is one that people feel as of need early on. It's probably because they have a plan later and that plan many times could be. Oh well. Let's let's not use corner because the steelers struggle attracting corner. Let's let's use wide receiver. There might be that there was a really good wide receiver that they were that that that everyone thought. Oh my goodness there fall into the steelers and the steelers take a different position like what what could have been because the steelers had someone else in mind later on that they're like. Hey this guy is going to be a steal. But we don't need to take him here and that was my question with the Andre Johnson is is when they took him with their with their first third round. Pick knowing that they were picking not that much longer. I actually. This was why Jeff accused me of being John. They Johnson Hater which is funny because now he's the wallpaper on my phone. I have signed many helmet from him. Things like that It was my first question was did they have did they need make this pick right now is this. Was this spot to take him or was it or is he still gonna be the next time around and they're going to miss out on someone that they could have had in there and that was a big question for people but didn't take long. I mean less than an hour of research and just listening to things to realize that they if they didn't get the on Day Johnson there they might not have got the day John at all and they made and they made the right. Pick to me the wise pick. I love it the way it worked out. I like Brian. Anthony Davis once said you know what happens if Seattle doesn't trade up and know. Seattle has two losses. But what what? Seattle doesn't sorry. Sorry about that Brian. What does Seattle trade up and grab decay? Metcalf would the steelers draft decay metcalf? Brian Answer is no. I think they still would have gone with the Johnson because that was the guy they wanted. So that's just sometimes how it goes. They might have a guy that like. Everyone else thinks he's a thinks he's a fifth round. We think he's a third round. And we'll take you in the fourth round you know so it's really interesting to see how this stuff plays out so sorry that. I just kind of went into that a little bit. I don't like getting locked into a position. I think the steelers last two years. I've done a great job in the draft of addressing some needs in free agency so they weren't forced to have to go do one given specific position a draft. Because when that happens it generally doesn't work out. I'm sorry my my live chat skipped a little bit so I'm just kind of jumping back in wherever I say it. So let's see here a little bit frozen. Yeah there it went and it's gone so so Here we go captain underpants. I just got here. That said he respects for disagrees. He thinks the next per star is going to be capable Johnson. Good will be great but I think Klay will have the report with Ben which will push him. I think you know what we can agree to disagree because I think Johnson is the one who's really getting that that report ban and I'm saying he's. He's on his way to superstardom year this year. So he's got a year up on clay pool and that's why. I think he's going to be the next one and if it looks like it could be both Johnson and Klay Pool. You know then it could be a situation like flip was talking about earlier where unfortunately my wife's Juju Smith Schuster Jersey might not be one that you'll want chilwan wear very much beyond this year but I I loved. I want him to keep them all. I love their wide receivers. I really do so steeler. Fan Seventy four says if ben gives Washington half a chance he will show out this year the I I think the biggest thing that came down with Ben in Washington is trust. If Ben doesn't trust you to to pull it down when he thinks you should pull it down. That goes a long way. That's the deal for they'll get. That's the deal with Ryan Switzer. That's the that's the Ryan. Switzer fear factor. No he doesn't get any yards after the catch or hardly any yards after the catch. You know he's basically going going to get the ball and get tackled. That's why it was so frustrating when the steelers are MICA third and three they're gonNA throw the ball the Switzer four yards. Behind the line of scrimmage. He's not GonNa get you the first down. That's just not who he is. But Ben's GonNa love a guy that catches the ball pretty much every time he throws it to him. It makes sense Ben. That's the trust at Ben. Rothlisberger has he didn't get that early on with Jane's Washington. But I think that there's a chance for that to grow because I think Washington grew last year without Ben Rothlisberger and but Ben Rothlisberger was there on the sidelines for almost every game in order to see it so. I think that that's something that will be interesting to watch as time goes on so this has to say the Hopkins isn't fast and pulls double team just in case. You're not explainable. Just because you're not explosively. Fast on the line of scrimmage does not mean. You're not a number one that's a very that's a very good point you don't have to be a burner to be a number one. I mean would you call hines ward a burner? I I wouldn't classify hides ward is a burner. Classified Hines Ward. As a guy that that that was tough and knew how to get open. That's the kind of receivers that you need came awesome stuff. I like this question. He says which has the most yards catches and TV's. I'm not sure that it's going to be the same person. That's the answer to all these when it comes to yards. That's I think. Judy is going to get the most catches. I just don't know that he's going to have the big he's not gonNA get may not be getting the ninety seven yard touchdown like he's had two so far in his career. I'm GonNa just on a limb just to throw out names. Let's say I'm gonNA say catches is going to go to Juju but yards and touchdowns is going to go to the Andre Johnson. And I think that's just me and I am a-ok being wrong because other guys step up and do fantastic so my my argument my argument my point is going to be. Let's let's not worry about. Who has the most? Let's let's worry about getting multiple players a lot. That's much better is to say who you know our. Hopefully they're only leading the team in touchdowns by one you know or leading the number of catches by six or the number of yards by thirteen. Get guys all producing. Well is way much more important. So Cathy like this this motion. I wish you keep track of these predictions to credit the try. I'm GonNa mess up that where I know what you're saying. I'm just a just a credit. The people get right the end of the season. Yeah that would be that. Would THAT WOULD BE PRETTY NEAT? And it's funny most of these shows where we talk about what the predictions are. I'm glad I'm I'm hoping that maybe people forget about it because Probably way wrong. Which more than we are correct so As were says Dante is another am I going to say at third and Fifth Trust? That's kind of my thinking. Is I think he's going to? He's going to be getting into that. Realm into that style of play commanded that kind of attention so as captain underpants said. He's right I hope they're both superstars. I I hope they're all superstars me and I hope they all stick around. I hope they can figure out of whack so I'd like to keep going here. But we're we're were nearing getting close to time. That's at the end of the show. Here you all have been fantastic in the live. Chat is a couple of things I wanNA talk about with the podcast platform and the and and the website in general with me coming in being the new editor. And Everything WanNa let you know that I'm although I'm taking over as editor the website. It's Brian. Anthony Davis that's taking over his coordinating the the podcasts and do and taking care of doing the audio and all that that then goes onto the website. So that's that's the part of the job. He's doing very grateful for that Lance Williams like we keep telling him he's got some other things in and because of that that New Orleans would have been fantastic as well but just other situations kept that from happening. And we told Lance you know what lance keeping the talent. You just keep you keep doing what you do. And we're all good so we're hoping with with when it comes to the podcast that we're keeping a lot of things similar when it comes to filling in because Jeff was on three podcasts. A week so Brian stepping it up to do a little bit more. We're trying to figure out a schedule and honestly for your all's benefit everyone's benefit both you listening and those of you watching whether live or later on. We're trying to figure out the best way to give you to give you all the best shows for example. The preview worked really well with Jeff Brian Myself. It's just what it was. It was a good one. Jeff Jeff Lance doing their shows together. So we're not gonNA force something and we might just be doing some rotation rotation basis here over the next few weeks just in order to to see who's the most comfortable with. Who and who seems to be Being able to give you guys the best content and you know. Make sure that everyone is is comfortable moving forward. Both you all us. That's what we're doing so cat. Here's a question she says. How will the new Guy Mike beyond that is? That is Michael Back. Also from the live Mike podcast for those. Listen in podcast form. He will be on his he. He was a guest on staff. Geek a couple of weeks ago but he will be on. That's WHO's going to be stepping up into into some of the roles with with Jeff He. He'll be on Sunday. I'm pretty sure that Sunday. Because Lance is still is still dealing with say dealing with still celebrating his his daughter's graduation and everything that they can do with that at this time. That's why I was feeling informed day for those that may have joined late that it looks like Michael is going to be stepping in to do a show on Sunday. It's it should be him and Brian. Anthony Davis on Sunday. I don't know if it's going to be the homer nater and might be just a special show with something else because that's something talk to you all about. Make sure that you are of course as always makes your liking videos. That's the best thing that you can do to help us out more than anything on youtube giving those positive ratings on the podcast platform but the best thing you can do is listen and watch. That's just that's really helpful just to just to be a viewer. But if you subscribe to the Youtube Channel and turn on your notifications you should be getting notifications while we go live now. We gotta make sure that all that still going going well because you know in the back end of stuff transferring stuff over from from Jaffa Brian and all that but that shouldn't affect things there but the other thing that we're attempting to do is if you follow behind the curtain on twitter that anywhere from fifteen to twenty minutes out from one. We're going to go. I WANNA throw out a tweet. It's coming if you know the show was coming. That's something that would be very beneficial to you. Also if you follow behind steel curtain on twitter you should get that and have a better idea that I'd like today. I say we're going to be going on shortly after four thirty PM. I think it was four. Thirty five PM. Had to make sure my kids. We're all set up and we're GONNA come down bothering battering the podcast and things like that. So we're trying to to offer that. So that's that's just if you took nothing else. Follow us on twitter. Let's see if I still got it in here. I do. It's coming across the screen for those if you watch it on Youtube. It's at bt. Steel Curtain still curtain is the behind the curtain. Twitter handle so those will be going out to get to let you all know you could go to the channel before the notification and see the show is set up even if you haven't started it and already been the live chat. Some of you do that now anyway. And it's great that we already see people in there. What are you starting? Come on. We also may be throwing in some bonus shows depending if we have various other things. We're trying to look at some other opportunities here and there and with other podcast with Michael. Coming in where. We're going to see if there might be all of a sudden like. Oh we have an opportunity for for a show. Maybe we we have a chance to even get jeff back on or something like that and rather than having regular show it could actually be a bonus show so with you have the if you have notifications on Youtube and if you follow on twitter between the two of them hopefully you don't miss out on any of it live but of course there's always the replace and there's always the podcast but for those of you that really to catch these live. That would be a great opportunity so real quick. I wanted to bring it up a super chat coming in here from Dave Shipley. He puts ten dollars a tip jar. Thank you dave. He said just continue to do what to do. What you guys do. A schedule would rock. That's something that we are going to to look into. I know as many of you know Jeff. Five kids also was a middle school teacher. Everything sometimes schedule. We do our best so we might have a tentative schedule but then also be able to offer more through through twitter through the tweets of letting you know a little bit more precise exactly what those times are. I've tried to stick the nine o'clock on Tuesdays for Stat Geek. I know sometimes Fridays. It kind of varies with land. So that's why we're going to want to try to do the do the stuff on twitter but we will be here for you so we're scheduled to have two steelers. Brunch with Tony Tomorrow sometime around noon and then on Sunday. I wish I could give you a better time on Sunday. But we still got a lot to work out. Because we always talked about left there about Lance being on the west coast Mike was also a West Coast Guy. So when Michael comes on for for the PODCASTS. That's that's another thing that we need to consider Monday. We should be right back with steelers. Qna with Brian and Tony. They generally around five to five thirty eastern. But we'll get a tweet out whenever that's going to go Tuesday Stat Geek with myself and my big brother rich. We generally go on at nine o'clock. Wednesday standard is the standard land. Should be back for that one. I think this week we've said WHO's definitely going to be on with Lance this week. It could be Brian. It could be myself. It could be. Michael Watt to see Thursday steelers preview. We don't know if we're going to go with a two man show for the or three man show from this point out but we are for this week. The plan is if as long as everything fits in there right for Michael to join Brian and I just just to kind of help him get a little bit more into the Youtube side of podcasting before we figure out if we're if we're going to be shifting anything around and then it's right back to lance with. Yeah I said it next Friday. So that's our upcoming schedule of things. Make sure you're checking out behind the curtain dot com. Your one stop shop for all things Pittsburgh steelers. We're still we're still checking out the content and the biggest reason that if for thirty that that you're the website that I feel that were we're having a transition that seems to be going pretty. Smoothly is mainly because of the fantastic writers at the site has. That's that's what that's what hasn't changed. We WITH JEFF. Moving on so far. I'd say so far until I guess maybe it make. Somebody had try not to be that way every every writer still on board other Jeff. So we're still doing all that we can't give you the best content possible so here at the very end. This was kind of something I wasn't sure about if I was going to say or not before we finish up but I'M GONNA take a couple of minutes because you know we have a platform we have this. We stick to the steelers. We're all steelers family. But more importantly we are all human beings and we are all we are all valuable and I know there's some things going on in our society now and I know there's opinions on both sides of this that and the other thing and I don. I don't want to get into that all I have to say is this. We're we're all part of the human race. We are all worthy of respects and we not only do. We need to love each other. We also need to listen to each other. I was saying to my wife last night. I feel terrible when I have to yell at my children. I don't WanNa yell at my children. I wish I never yelled at my children but sometimes when I say something that my children are they. Don't listen I say my children. They don't listen to my children. They don't listen. I feel like I have to yellow. In order to be heard and sometimes people people do things that whether or not is good right beneficial or whatnot but sometimes people are things that they need to do in order to be heard so the best thing that we can do for each other. All the time is we need to listen. Just listen listen to people and care about people and care about all of you all here. That are part of this platform. I would you know still super happy to hear that steeler fan seventy four getting good medical reports things of that nature. I really do I care. I care about you. All as you'll find out what stuff with the with with the website. I'm I'm a I'm a person that's all about high integrity. I want everyone to have you know high high integrity and credibility with everything that we do. But I care about you all what I want to care about everyone so the best that we can do take care of each other. Stay safe listened people and love everyone and do everything you can to make this world the best place that it can be and with that. I'm going to call the show. Thank you off for tuning in Sorry it wasn't lance sorry. You had to look at me but let Lance be back very soon and as he always sends it out tune in Tele friend and subscribe. Thanks for joining me today.

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Steelers prove perfection doesnt need to be perfect in win over Tennessee

Behind the Steel Curtain

14:57 min | 3 weeks ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Steelers prove perfection doesnt need to be perfect in win over Tennessee

"Welcome back to the steelers hangover on bts family podcast named Brian Anthony Davis Tony. Deputy was alongside with me the steelers are six in order for the first time since nineteen seventy eight after squeaking out a win. Against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday of this week if you're listening a few days in ranch I, don't want to say. Yesterday. But the steelers beat the titans twenty seven to twenty four, Tony. It's a good hangover my friend. Very, good hangover very good hangover as I said in the first half this. was. This proves that to me anyway that they're for real I mean and I thought they were real anyway I, mean, you don't mediocre teams don't go five hundred against other mediocre teams eight probably lose two or three of those games loan away. So the fact that five going into Sunday's game told me. It told me that they were for real but but if if I doubted it if anybody doubted it but they did to the titans winning that game even though they face a lot of adversity at the end, it tells me that this team is a legit super bowl contender and they put a nice down payment on some very special things. In January. So let's go ahead in the last ten minutes of the show. Let's have you get your questions ready where you're going to revisit the steelers QNA. So get those in and we will do our best to read all of them. Now as says this, I said it before. If Ben Throwing forty to fifty times a game it's GonNa. Be a long day Tony. Did he need to be throwing that much yesterday? I. To me it didn't bother me all that much I. Don't think that was the issue I think just. The titans are a good team and they adjusted and I think they would've tried to run it a lot in the second half. It's still at the the the offense would have probably struggle to the titans were the Juggernaut and it was their time to. To make a comeback in the second half and I don't think that's the issue Ben Thrown Forty plus times before I think he's done a couple of times this season that didn't it didn't bother them. So wh what it between thirty five and forty not much and that's pretty much what he averages every week. So I don't think that was the issue I. Think the titans are the titans made adjustments in the second half defense in the steelers could readjusted what they were doing. Michael Tool says last season's less season Bush's sideline to sideline speed instincts kept Lamar in check for most of the game now we don't have that speed in the middle and that worries me a bit. Yeah, we don't have that speed, but you're gonNA find. We gotta find a way to make it up in other ways I. GotTa. Tell you this. I think with Robert Spelane in there that there are a lot more dangerous against the run Tony and I. Still Think there's a possibility that you see the steelers make a call and give up a fourth round of fifth round pick for someone struggling with the jets not struggling. Somebody on a struggling team like the jets maybe the Broncos you see a team like the Jaguars anybody that's looking to sell off some talent. You might see that Tony Yeah I, mean anything's possible. They proved it last year if there if you're willing to go out and get a nickel fitzpatrick after Sean, Davis got injured then even with Ben out for the year when they could've easily packed and now that they're six and. If. They feel like that that there's a move out there to improve their chances of of of having a great regular season and postseason they're gonNA do it. But what I liked about Sunday's game is not just Roberts filleting but I like the fact that that you do three got a lot of time in there and and and I. Love I love the Way Cam Sutton played yesterday you know in in place of. Mike Helton that just shows me that there's so much. There's so many guys that they can utilize to replace them and Bush like I said on Saturday am I show it it's GonNa, take a village and and it looks like they have a lot of lot of decent parts to to to make up for that absence. So so you know I'm not as worried as I was going into Sunday about about Devin Bush I'm still worried I think he's a valuable player is going to be a big loss but I think more than ever that they might be able to make up for it. I've seen this team go deep into the Playoffs who Jerry Will Saf ski. In. Their at Middle Linebacker or inside linebacker at the time I've seen this team take some guys. They've lost some players. They lost Labor on Bell and next thing you know a guy who wasn't playing was playing a lot. It was the Angela Williams I seen next man works so many time for times for this team. So I'm just GonNa say this you know you don't WanNa lose any player but I feel pretty with Robert Spelane in they're definitely against the Ron it's You're playing another run heavy team again, but it's a different kind of run heavy team with Lamar Jackson. We'll just see how it goes, but I don't think it's one player that is going to lose this game for the steelers on defense because they are a defensive unit as a whole I think without Devin Bush. This is still one of the finest front sevens in the. League. So we'll go ahead and say that Dallas Quinn says this Tony, our special teams were special. Tony. Ray McLeod is not the only reason. This team is fantastic on special teams, but he's a big part of it. Sides Ray, Ray we'll talk about Ray Ray and talk about what else is so special about these special teams I like the fact that I think their their their coverage units or I mean obviously kickoffs. Kicked out end zone. That's not much of a factor. But yesterday they tried a lot of short short kickoffs a lot of Kickoff. Coca. Cola kind kickoffs and and they covered it they since they can come back and bite you with a thirty five or forty yard return. But yesterday they stopping the titans at the ten fifteen when letting them get letting him get to the twenty and of course, you know. Boswell spent lights out. As. Bad. As the funding has been through five, the first how about it was through the first? Why weeks with Dustin Colquitt It wasn't wasn't that much of a hindrance because of the the coverage units I mean guys like. Klay Poor just playing lights out in the earliest he was before he became a bigger star bigger part of the offense but overall I mean like, Marcus Allen those guys are you can see how the difference that they're making special teams and and and Ray Ray Macleod I was I was skeptical of him just because of the whole Johnny Holton Experience From Twenty Nineteen. But I mean, he's the real deal. He's the real deal. There's no need to put the Andre Johnson back there ever again as long as your IRA McLeod is here he's he's has. The ability or the chance to be a special return guy for for in the NFL moving forward. If Ray Ray turns one way. He takes it all the way to the house and that would be absolutely incredible. He I. I'm just dying to see this guy get in the end zone. He's he's earning it I remember a couple years ago. It looked like Roy Ryan? Switzer came into the League. Would not the league when he came to the steelers, it looked like he was more of a jitterbug back then and it seemed like he was going to break one and he never did but he had some Nice Nice returns. It doesn't. It pales in comparison to what we're seeing ray. Ray McLeod, he just looks absolutely phenomenal. I love what we're doing with this guy Tony. With Ray Ray there I agree with you beyond Johnson as much of a spark as as he is he shown that he is I don't WanNa prone injury, but he's dealt with injuries so I wouldn't want to see him. Have to absorb any more hits with guys coming up sprayed on him. So let's go ahead and tried a hope that that raise their the rest of the year Rhino tool fans are finally getting off Danny, Smith's but maybe the problems for more than players than coaching. Maybe, but I tell you what I. I've A. I hope that this is not an aberration I. Hope You're absolutely right I just know that we've seen a lot of. Let's say this we've seen the special teams be more of a liability than than something that it's a huge benefit right. Now, it's a huge feature of this team. So let's keep that going not to be outdone. Let's mention Chris Boswell as well having another phenomenal year now, the punting situation which you brought up. Jordan Berries back I would probably think that he's around for the rest of the season are touchdown under guys from Australia one celebrating not. But Hey, they've got another. They've got another ozzy here with the Pittsburgh steelers. So they could bring back the Jordan very stout of the week and you can check that show out. Saturdays as well. Right before you listen to steelers Brunch for Tony, but the punting something interesting came up today. And this is the source I'm not. GonNa. Even bring his name it's a, it's an alliterative alliterative. Interational. In the name I think he's a complete full in as far as Pittsburgh columnist but. You know former professional wrestling announcer, Pittsburgh loud mouth not gonNA mentioned his name but he brought up. Another guy that his has been dabbling in professional wrestling this year with eighty w saying that his sources say that Pat McAfee could be returned to the league and of the steelers now I am not endorsing that at all I'm not saying that this is fact it's just a huge rumor that's floating out there. Have you heard this crazy rumor owning briefly last week and I think was from the same guy that you're. Referred to I don't mean McAfee has such a good thing going now with with with his. Media. Career I I don't know why he want to do I. Mean obviously a punters knock you're gonNA. Make more money doing that than he's doing and you don't have to take the the the the hits that you know running back or somebody like that would take in the NFL but. I mean, if he comes back comes back I mean it was he was he ray guy I mean he's a fun guy i. I. Hear Funny I mean if it happens it happens but it's it's not something I'm. Worried about or hoping happens I mean. Other than perfected that he'd be entertaining as heck have on the football team. He absolutely would, but we don't need entertainment. We just need wins I think Jordan, Berry has. The first half last season he was punting really well, hopefully, maybe the break has been good to him. So let's hope that the Jordan Berry does well, but right now it seems like Jordan Berry might be. The. The sexiest supermodel of the steelers right now because there's a lot of death everywhere. So I'm feeling pretty good about it. I woke him Jordan Berry back baggage. Hope he plays. Well, I happen to like Mr Colquitt the legacy. A second steeler legacy on the team. So we only have one steeler legacy right now, but I really liked Dustin Colquitt. I just I. Guess I wasn't paying attention and I thought he was playing a whole lot better than a lot of people thought. But Jordan Berry is back and that's interesting and I was thinking about this one today. You're not as familiar with his joke as it would be better with the on the steelers preview. But one of my biggest gaffes ever was not paying attention to what day was saying he asked me a question I said, yes Seattle has two losses and so. Only, Howard species fifty, six, eighteen since bad. Soon, Seattle will have two losses. I love it I also like somebody mentioned. That McAfee is a ric Flair wanna-be that's mackel do Tony and I are ric flair one, and there are a lot of wannabes in wrestling business. Among wrestling fans it's a it's a great be great guy to emulate yet tony and I used to call ourselves the heels. MARV causes the Beastie boys but we we thought we were the Rick Flair Arn Anderson here of BTC Woo in Tony's or. So let's just say this. Quote another professional wrestling legend Tony as we get on Outta here. First of all, before we do that the steelers are six no, they are playing Baltimore next week. It's Ravens Week. Scratch that. It's redbirds week. and. I gotTa tell you. I'm pumped up. This is one of the biggest rat weeks were ever going to see for a long time that is outside of the playoffs. So let me tell you this behind the curtain dot com for all of its big steeler needs. Now Look Jeff Hartman says all the time. It's your one stop shop. I'M GONNA. Go one better. It's your nonstop shop for everything Pittsburgh steelers whether it's on the editorial side whether it's on the podcast side I got to tell you what we have coming up on the PODCAST side tomorrow morning we've got Michael Beck and the life of tomorrow night it's the scarborough show. There's got to be a press conference tomorrow Mike Tomlin press conference recap with Jeff Hartmann that you're GonNa have another let's ride. You're going to have know your enemy I'm not sure who's going to be on the show for Ravens Week but that show with Jeffrey Benedict and Michael Beck is absolutely phenomenal if you didn't catch last week with Tennessee guys, those guys are great and they're the ones that. Point I didn't realize the Tennessee titans fans hate the rat birds, they called them the ramparts. and. They really hate them too. So they're like, Hey, look we respect the steelers you might be this this week we'll see in the playoffs another. That's cool but they also said this they're like look just go be Baltimore Force beat those records like all right that's what we need to do but it's going to be a fantastic week. You know there's going to be so much coming out on this game. So you need to be on behind the curtain dot com for all of your needs and you've got to be checking us out on all the podcast platforms to please we want you to be a part of our steelers family and you got to do it. So thank you so much, Tony. Take us. Out My friend. Well to quote the great the late Great Roddy Piper just when you think you have all the answers. We keep changing the questions. See. Next week everybody

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REShow: John McClain and Brent Musburger. Hour 3 (03-16-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

00:00 sec | 9 months ago

REShow: John McClain and Brent Musburger. Hour 3 (03-16-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. Know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO? Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko Dot Com G. I. CO DOT COM. Our number three of the rich. Eisen show on the air and man every time The NFL has a free agency period. We're all expecting for big shoes to drop going into the two day. Pre Free Agency official league year window opens when that window and the two days before opens. There's always a surprise every year involving player you. You wouldn't think would ever be on the move and that just happened in. The last hour happened while Peter King was on the air live with us. We're taking your phone calls. Eight four four two zero four rich number. Dial Adam Schefter tweeting out. I the first thing we heard his David Johnson was going to Houston from Arizona. And then Adam schefter chimes in with Oh yeah the guy going back. is on Hopkins. What and then our buddy John MacLean from the Houston Chronicle chime in with the details De'andre Hopkins any fourth round pick goes to Arizona for David Johnson and a second round pick this year and a fourth round pick next year again the phone line to dial eight four four zero four which we will take your call. Brent. Musburger is going to be calling in the middle of well. Not After after John and Chris Brockman News Update and we've got Musburger Brett calling in because Vegas is shutting down. I mean our whole countries we all know is shutting down. 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That's Chris Brockman news update which will lead to Jammu clients. Conversation go forward with a report of the day's news from the world of sports and entertainment someone who is not a journalist or news man by any definition of the word whatsoever. It's Chris Brockman. So all the the story is amazing. How Yeah it's totally bananas The Houston Texans in Arizona Cardinals. Monster Trade the cardinals get De'andre Hopkins and a fourth round pick from Houston going to Houston David Johnson. A second round pick this year and a fourth round pick next and Houston. Texans don't have a first round pick this year and Needed to replenish in any way shape or form that they possibly could because in their second round They were sitting down there a far lower than they wanted now. They're sitting at fortieth overall with Arizona and now they've got the fifty seven th overall pick and joining us here kind enough to call on. Short notice is our buddy who's been covering Houston sports since the mid seventy s from the Houston Chronicle John Maclean. How are you today John? I'm doing great rich. How are you? I'm doing fine right here? In the capital one guest line in the middle of our news. Update I appreciate you providing this information Where did this come from John? Why why did this happen Dan? Rae options wants a new contract. He's got three years left on his contract. They were not gonNA Redo deal with three years left even though bill. O'brien is the general manager and he has control of everything now. The most they've ever done was the Andre Johnson and. Jj Watt two years left. And there's not going to do it and so It's a good year for receivers is becomes our number one priority concern. Kenny stills will fuller in the last year of their contract and then fuller can't stay healthy. This becomes a big priority and free agency and the draft. So you're saying They were receiving information from De'andre Hopkins or his camp that he might not show up this year with three years left on his deal so why not go ahead and and and deal him now is that they're worried about that but I know he wants to contract when he signed it he got forty nine million guaranteed most in NFL? History for receiver. And he's GonNa make twelve and a half million this year thirteen and a half next year and that doesn't put him among the league leaders. He's coming off another first team. All Pro selection another pro bowl and Shawn Watson of course. He's their second bit second. Most important offensive player to Shawn Watson and that takes a huge chunk out of this offense and I don't know how they're going to replace. That's a sell my Gosh John. That's the question I have for you here is that how. How does this get sold to the rest of the team and disown Watson I mean? Isn't this one of the most popular players? That's in that in that locker room. Oh yeah but they don't have to sell it. You know Bill O'Brien charge. There's tons of Kent still deal. The fans went crazy media. Went crazy as you can imagine here right now. Fans and meteor going crazy and But the only person he's got to sell it to the owner Callum McNair and obviously he signed off on it. So what what do you think this means for for the offense John? I mean I guess I'll ask this question What does deal have gotten done if if Bill O'Brien wasn't the General? The general manager to deal with three years left absolutely not. I would not do that. And set that kind of president for any player and They wouldn't have done it under Brian. Gain or Rick Smith Charley. Casserly because that's just not the way they've operated and not many teams do that much time left. It's obvious O'Brien likes David. Johnson said he had a great second year. He said injury issues. He's a backup to Kenyan drake. So great deal for Kinda Murray Inclusive Kingsbury. Think about how how Happy Cuyler. Murray ought to be right now. Compared to Shawn Watson John At the time I know you got your time was short year. You're on the case for some other news going on appreciate it. Thanks thanks John. I'll tell you what Fans will not accept that. Answer that's that's not an answer that They're willing to accept this. Just they'll say pay the man. I mean three years out is a very long time. Yes but do you know how many times that there's been a showdown or staredown or like? Hey stick with it. As soon as this year's John you get it or or I'm with marshawn lynch that the the seahawks and then figured it out guy has been all pro the last three years thirty one touchdowns over one hundred monetary thing. It's not anything else to money thing. That's what it it's not sounds like it or or or they couldn't figure out how to make the trade but the traffic couldn't figure out how to how to head off at the pass some sort of a hold out but the trade for a running back with injury history. The last three seasons who essentially got benched last year. And WHO's approaching thirty all of the red flags and acquiring David Johnson? All right other news poplar. Just WanNa throw out here right now. They've got that was brought to you by our friends at capital one which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts with no fear minimums and one of the nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your wallet? Whatever other news. The Cleveland Browns are looking to make Austin Hooper. The highest paid tight end in football. Mike Silver saying this might lead to a possible trade of Jarvis Landry or Odell Beckham. Could you see that happening Sure after it was just a year ago that Odell got traded to Cleveland. Dude dafter Dave gettleman not trading. Odell deandre Hopkins Use Your Traded Hopkins's twenty seven old. Who has a hall of fame resume and nothing on his off the field resume? That would create any reason to get rid of this guy. He's hugely popular in the locker room. He's hugely popular in the fan base and he wants a new contract with three years to go the answer usually in the NFL is like we love you. You're here for for forever. We will take care of you. You know and and you got to sit it out and I'll be honest this well. I mean you take a look at what's going on you. Have you have to sit here and wonder what what the summer is? GonNa look like in in this world and if you know training camps start on time or anything. Starting on time I mean we have no idea so you know. Hey De'andre sit back. We don't know what the landscape of the world is. GonNa look like right now. You got three years left on your deal. And we can't set the precedence. We didn't set it for. Jj Watt. We didn't set it for Andre Johnson. Whose record you have a chance to break. I mean there's so many ways to handle it other than just get him out here while again. He's he's like coach. Dale with five four players on the floor. A fifth guy on the bench. You refuse to put in a game because his plan is his plan and he doesn't care how many fans are howling at the moon. And also you know. This team. Had A a a jillion touchdown lead on the eventual super bowl champs year in the playoffs and they traded away their best offensive weapon for their young stud other deals. That man other deals have been announced. The niners broke the bank for Erica Armstead. Five years eighty five million dollars avoiding a franchise tag there. The for the gold crush member slide. Just like the John Lynch goes about his business brother. Cowboys signing Blake. Darwin tight end three year extension worth up to twenty four million dollars The Patriots released a statement on franchise tagging Dooney. Joe has been a model teammate. Essential to our success. Utilizing the franchise designation allows both sides more time to reach the goal of a long term agreement he had been mentioned in trade talks. Talks are underway so my Florio profootballtalk reporting talks underway between the bears and Teddy Bridgewater early crap on a deal that would likely make him the star in Chicago. Of course why would teddy bridgewater? Why would teddy bridgewater sign in another place? He's got earned the right to start. Why would he do you got? The guy went five. No he would not for the New Orleans. Saints has proven it. He's back he's healthy. He's good why in the world would he take this free agency off of that performance and go ahead and say I got off signed before the new league year begins. I'll sign in a spot where I gotta earn my way. And and Man Ryan Pace the general manager if he's able to sell to management there on the guy you traded up from three to to to take bisky over Mahomes in Watson on that guy and I'm telling you let's pay teddy bridgewater a ton of money and still be able to keep his GIG. That is like Kaiser Sosa Trick. That is amazing. Now it would be up to the coach to help make it cash. That's for sure and I'll tell you what it's not a bad move. So we're entering year four Mitch trubisky right. It's not a bad move. You'RE GONNA have to figure out what you're doing in fifth year option and you could basically say that's it Mitch Haas. Yeah and also he's your backup not a bad move and Teddy Bridgewater back into division. He knows all too well in which he division one once. What is it going to take the sign teddy though less than I think Tanning Oh money. Don't you think I mean not sure I would less than ten money? And how good does the Garoppolo annual salary of twenty five per look right? Now as we're sitting here talking looks real good. When it's time I never made set like everyone said it didn't make sense for the forty niners to WanNA involve actor Jameis. Winston did not get franchise tag means. He can walk. He can walk in two days. Wow what else do you have? The last one Real Quick Rob. Manfred spoke today. Wata speculation on win major league. Baseball might start up solve. Maybe June yesterday saw July today. Manfred didn't say anything about that but did say they are not going to start the season on April ninth. He's not going to speculate. Owners are still hopeful. The play full schedule. I don't know how they do that. A lot of double dips. I don't know how they do that. I mean the CDC said thirty days for at least no more than fifty people right for the next eight weeks. Yes so that's more than sixty days we're talking about mid may how do you play one hundred sixty to make it? Seems like maybe a hundred game season could be salvageable. If we're going to start in July play half a year July fourth opening day half a year and give you know give the All Star game back to Los Angeles another year and you start them or that's the exhibition welcomes back people to Baseball on an all star game to start the air. We HAVE NO IDEA. We have no idea what is going to happen with this virus. At 'cause no apparently a vaccine is months away. I just read that there. The first patient and Seattle just received the first inauguration of the vaccine. It's GONNA take months to see if it holds and if it works first of all. I hope it works for that person because I'm sure that person just whoever took it. I mean very courageous and or maybe it was so necessary for this person to take it. We'll take a break more of your phone calls. Eight four four two zero four rich number. Dial the great legendary Brent Musburger he will. We'll talk about what's going on in Vegas as every bet cities shutting down what it means to the people in that industry of sports gambling and books. And are the raiders. Talking to? Tom Brady right now. Is mayock somehow on the phone with TB twelve as we're talking what is going on there? He's the voice of the La. The I almost I almost yourself the live That's next year on the rich. Eisen show on the next episode of expeditiously please. Everybody welcome Mr Tyler. Perry was going on Bro. And you're meteoric rise man to success has not come with at some level. The criticism saw you go. You be polite next episode. Expeditiously sacrifice comes on in because as part of my catalog okay. So that's where my value is not. I'm not making the money upfront. It's in the long hair so if you go in there and you're looking for the bag great go buy Bentley Eurozone scrape. That's also with. That's wonderful but but then what you've done it signed it all the way they own you and it never going to give you an opportunity to be in that position. Don't miss the next episode of expeditiously with Special Guest Tyler. Perry drops Thursday march nineteenth expeditiously with Tia. Podcast is really did man. I'm the I'm done. Welcome to the rich Eisen show. He's one of my favorite people that have gotten a chance to meet in this business. I love chatting with him and certainly these are interesting times for the city of Las Vegas. And the Las Vegas Raiders and everything About it is the managing editor of these in. He is the legendary Brent Musburger. How are you Brent? Find Great under the under the circumstances and I know you and I and everybody at your show which is the best especially for our medical personnel. Who are working around the clock to To treat victims with this horrible virus and but the one thing I did notice today and I know there was controversy about the NFL Going with a date to Start the season and then have the talk about free agency. I thought it was a good distraction. I thought it was needed. I know that and I'm speaking personally I really enjoy going over in Listening to this show is talk about where we'll Tom Brady. Wind up and You know on and on it was because I you know. I think you can lock yourself up with the tragedies for just so long we're all addicted to social media all of us. I think there's no question about that. And we pick up our phone and immediately we go to see what the latest bulletins are in their depressing and I thought the NFL offers an escape today. And obviously it's very disappointing for the city of Las Vegas to lose to lose the upcoming draft. But there will be other drafts down the road to come to Las Vegas but now we can talk about the draft because the NFL's GonNa hold it the last week of April and obviously if you know they can do that teleconference and and you can wire up certain places for the NFL network and ESPN will do the same. So at least we have you know because talking about the. Nfl offers hope because their season doesn't start until the first week of September So I know and I'm speaking. I really speaking personally I enjoy I enjoy the talk very very much and like everybody else and yourself included. We're all interested in where Tom Brady is going to is going to wind up and it You know we can't do too much work kind of a quarantine locked up staying away from our usual hangouts and It offered me a good escape well before we can escape together down some of those questions about the NFL. And about the Tom Brady. Watch and whether the raiders arena on it I do WANNA however Hit what is going on in your town there and what. It looks like And what what? The lack of sports means for the COMMUNITY THERE. Brent. I want to give you the floor and talk about people were affected and what we should know about in your estimate. Well full disclosure. Now I drove out of Las Vegas and up at our place in Montana. Okay with with the family. But I have. I have spoken to people Who are on the scene Derrick Stevens. Who owns several because the downtown and is building the new one on Fremont street circa and is a huge sports fan? He was the first to me to the fact that the the Strip was virtually deserted and following that about twenty four hours. Later of course. Mgm and win a both announced that they were shutting down their casinos for the time being now when MGM Shuts Down Rich. Then and bowl twenty separate casinos they also on the Bellagio the Mirage. And you can go on and on with With a list including three casinos right there. Around the T. Mobile Center where the Vegas Golden Knights were playing and Mandalay Bay which is right across from interstate. Fifteen from work stadium is being built now. Work Continues on Allegiance Stadium and much construction. Outside of course keeps the workers little bit away from each other. There's not collection of workers but as they get closer and closer putting on the roof And it's a permanent roof. It's not retractable when they do that. Then of course there will be cluster of workers on the inside now. Everybody everybody around the raiders. Keeping their fingers crossed that construction will not slow down and on August twenty second. Which is a Saturday? Garth Brooks is due to have a concert. You Know Legion stadium whether or not there will be a preseason game or whether or not UNLV is able to play California which is a game on the schedule for that. None of us really know the first day that has been scheduled and again for the time being when you're going on is August twenty second and they hope they can get it done now. During Stevens told me the downtown and of course these are issues which caused a New York Illinois Ohio to close down the restaurants that are bars There were large crowds gathering around the casinos on Fremont straight now of course in view of the fact that the CDC wants clusters of fifty people broken up and basically to Stay apart and don't socialize as much. They feel that. That's one of the weapons in fighting this horrible virus I would guess that the crowds down. There we'll start to fade away. Obviously it's going to be an enormous an enormous on the city of Las Vegas and I feel so badly as everyone else does for the part time workers in those who are being paid off. I saw that win was trying trying to keep on as many employees as they could meanwhile Mgm HAS ALREADY STARTED. Layoffs of course much bigger with all the properties that they have the local casinos such as stations. The South Point where the be in studio is owned by Michael Gone. They are still open. Restaurants are still open but the crowds are way way down and of course the casino's depend on large crowds conventions have been cancelled Most them None of the conventioneers will be coming to Las Vegas. And we don't win. That will get repaired and restored. But it's just it's an example of the financial hit that the entire country is going to take as a result of this You can you can feel for the airline industry and their employees or the cruise ship industry. Anybody involved in travel or leisure activities is suffering An enormous an enormous financial hip. But in the long run if what we know is is accurate with regarding this virus and the and we should stay away for large crowds and we will come out of it now. I think this is personal opinion. I think the earliest we can count on. Any kind of restoration of activities is Memorial Day I had originally hoped it was going to be the end of April. But I'm seeing signs that that's not going to be the case and Obviously the industries in Las Vegas where I live They're dependent on tourism and tourists conventions coming in and and the excitement generated by the new stadium allegiance stadium with the Las Vegas. Raiders will play but there is hope that we're going to have an entire NFL season. And and what you have going forward for us. You have hope that that there's something down the road and and you know none of us You don't you don't give up on something like this. You're listening to the good advice The experts have You go on about your business because life. Eventually Has to go on as far as the sports. Betting industry is concerned. You and I've talked about this before this brand football rains. There's no question about it. Nothing else is even close to it. And so obviously this optimism Going through free agency draft and then thinking about I think opening day around September sixth in Kansas City. Because I noticed that the royals have canceled their game that night and gone to double header on Tuesday which obviously means that email being. Nfl officials have been talking about when the opening game is going to be super bowl champs but that gives us a little hope to look down the future and things Yes Las Vegas. The situation is bleak bleak for v Sin But you know we're hope to stay healthy and The country hopes to come out of this. But we're going to be some tough times. I think we all know that. No doubt Brent Brent Musburger here on the rich Eisen show on a well put as always So let's Let's stroll down. I guess the The the fun escapist Wormhole for for a few more minutes here. The in your estimation the starting quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. In Two thousand twenty would be who say Derek Carr only because I like him so a young man right And and I get I get the chatter. I understand it The raiders don't have to sell tickets and so whereas the chargers do have to sell tickets. You and I both know in Los Angeles that the second team always thought that Tom Brady made more sense with the chargers than the raiders. Rich because of that I I would not be surprised if the raiders. Don't draft a quarterback at some point in the upcoming draft someone to come in underneath Derek Carr and and work there and went back and looked at some of the teams that had changed cities. Most recent I guess would be the rams well the charges that but the rams going into Saint From St Louis into Los Angeles very difficult first year and I think it's going to be a very difficult year for the raiders to you can just imagine what this has done to all folks that have to move logistically right They're finishing up new offices. You GotTa have movie and coming now. You've been slowed down by this buying houses but at any rate I would make. Derek Carr the favorite To to open as as John GRUDEN's quarterback in year three of his Tenure as head coach so Do you think the raiders are maybe kicking the tires on Tom Communicating with them in any way shape or form. That's just not really happening. Based on your potential knowledge think they would. I would think they would kick the tires. I very limited knowledge. I am aware of where they're seriously looking at free agents. Okay and My List did not include Brady now. They might not want to include me or somebody else in that I. I understand that But it appears in the list I went through which is sort of interesting because it did include one offensive player. Kenyon Drake who was franchised today early by Arizona and of course the reason why is that? The cardinals traded David Johnson. Short time after that and acquired de Andrea Hopkins from From Houston which I think is the most surprising. Yes about to say what what did you think of that Trade Brent. What'd you think of that one? Well I'm a big fan of the Andrea Hopkins. Okay so in the short term. I give the cardinals a Dick Grade on that could be cuyler. Murray one of the Great Ball catchers that I've been around In the League and then when he played at Clemson also covered him down there. Now you have to say hold on about Houston because they've still got a couple of draft choices down the road and let's see what they do with the the additional second David Johnson to me rich has not played as well. I think you're well aware of this. I am the injury and Kenyan. Drake was picked up by the cardinals from Miami and was very very good as as a running back. And obviously the raiders have Jacobs as their star starter. Apathetic would give them a little bit of depth back. Their position along with Jan restart is the As a third down pass blocking specialist so I was surprised to tell you the truth when that news broke. I think that's the biggest development of the day and I think it gives the cardinals. Astana you put you put him with Fitzgerald. Who's in. Probably the final year of hall of fame career can work underneath and the Andrea can work a little bit deeper Those are good weapons and of course the cardinals are in in my mind the toughest division of them all and that's the NFC West Right now Brent Musburger few minutes left with the right here on the rich Eisen show. If there's any city that you know you know many cities in this great country very well. Chicago's definitely one of them and report. Is that Teddy? Bridgewater might be on the way there. How do you think that that plays out? If Teddy Bridgewater winds up in Chicago Brent. I'm a huge fan of Teddy Bridgewater. Wherever he goes. I think he's GonNa be A success Mitchell trubisky was an overreach When they traded up to take him down I mean they took him ahead of you. Know a couple of great great prospects. Quarterbacks including Patrick Mahomes So Mitchell you know he just. He had not played enough. North Carolina rich really not taking enough snaps I would. I was always wondering about that because I'd covered colleges and he wasn't Disgust quarterback when you went around the country. People didn't openly talk about him. I'm sure he's a fine. You know man I you know. Try to say anything. Negative about him. as an individual. And if you go back to that one playoff game he brought the bears down and then it was a field goal. The double the double clanger that Cost him moving on in the playoffs. So but I'm not surprised but to go back to bridgewater mail to come back from that horrendous injury the ways has handled himself and then I thought one of the best streaks in the league last year was when he stepped in for the Intergroup breeze and let the saints to five consecutive wins. I thought that was one of the great quarterback performances of the season. So I wish Teddy. Noth nothing but the best wherever he goes. I think you'll be successful. All Right Brent. Just I wanted to reach out because obviously this is significant for for somebody communities about Las Vegas was. I my mind knowing that the draft might not happen and then that that was the case today with the League saying that they're going to run it out of. I'm assuming New York City and it'll still be televised by my network and ESPN. I thought of you And I just think you because your your treasure man and I'm I hope you taking care of yourself and seems like your old up there in Montana and I'm thrilled to hear that. Yeah I you know. Obviously great to be surrounded by family and everybody up here my dad but I wish I wish the same for you and your tires staff and all your viewers and listeners and by the one thing I want to have a little a little lighter note I want to know when you ran a forty India. There's just a tick slower than the previous year. I just I was. I was at a faster. However good however however George Kibble came to time me from the forty niners. A wonderful guy. Don't he and his wife donated to Saint Jude? He may have given me a gracious Flick of the finger. He may or may not have. I don't know but I'm going to take that five. Nine seven and literally and figuratively run with it. Brent Bowman best you have family right back at Ya. Thanks for the call. Brent that's Brent Musburger Grant Degrade Brent Musburger Vegas Stats and Info Network mentioned visa and I mean the whole city. Shut down and right now. The raiders and Tom Brady might be talking might not. He said that he heard how. `Bout Kenyan drake would have been on their list to do the nice one to Punch Josh. Jacobs amazing terrific but you know He he didn't finish the season. Those things happen for rookies interesting. Very interesting we'll take a break. Your phone calls at eight four four zero four rich number to dial there is Philip Rivers. News there's also another dolphin signing This one is particularly significant And other trade and another trade all. That's next right here. On this edition of the rich Eisen show eight four four two zero four rich. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. 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Let's go to the phone lines right now. Jonathan Richmond Virginia has been hanging on for a bit. What's up Jonathan? How's it going rich Thank you for putting on the show. I know a lot of us That are teleworking. You know really appreciate it. I really just wanted to say you know. As a chargers fan I know all about bad management law seasons missed opportunities. But what Bill. O'brien is doing to. The Texans is absolutely ridiculous and at what point do you just say enough and then for Shawn Watson as a young quarterback. What are you thinking about when your best offensive weapon gets traded? I mean do you want out I mean. Do you just put your head down and keep working hard. I mean what you do. If you're him well you just keep put your head down and keep working hard. I mean and you're probably wondering what in the world is happening and he's the one on thanks for the call who after the disastrous Blown lead in Kansas City to end the season The Shawn Watson is the one who took the podium and said Bill O'Brien's the right man for the job when he knew he's already sensing that people are GonNa were wondering if Bill O'Brien needed to lose his gig based on the decision making that happened in that game look. We need to see the team that they put around him and And see how how well affairs and it's only going to take some time but right now you have to sit here and think how in the world based on what John Maclean when he called in the show at the top of the hour to say that Hopkins wanted a new deal After with three years left on the contract and they were unwilling to do it and I guess whatever went back and forth between the two sides they figured now is the time to to to to trade him as opposed to waiting. And basically saying what are you? GonNa hold out play play one more year and then with two years left on a deal. That's what we do for you like. We did for Andre Johnson like we did for. Jj Watt for some reason. We're now hearing well. It was too untenable. Sit there and let it play out with a pandemic that might actually delay the season. I mean you put the real world and the actual sports world in the conversation together and it really doesn't compute especially. When is that all you can get? Form is a guy who is pushing thirty at the running back position who hasn't done much since two thousand sixteen and a second round pick and a fourth back and you swap fourth round picks. That's the best. Wouldn't wouldn't somebody be out there raising their hands saying we'll give you one form especially when you don't have a one. I don't know going back like. Is this the best deal? It could have gone now letting cloudy go was people howling at the moon about that. And how much they gave up for. Tonsil and stills I mean Kaiser pretty important parts of the team certainly stills now Hopkins Gone Let's go back to the phone lines right now. Mike and Miami. What's going on Mike Mike but Mike back on hold Let's go to Align Pittsburgh what's up ally is the Titans Fan. I'm really happy Bill Brian now. Now that I couldn't be happier. My question is with Tannehill refined which is a great deal. Henry Getting Franchise Tag. How important do you think it is the titans to now get Jack Conklin under contract? We look if they could run it back from last year. And then obviously Add a little bit here in a little bit there. You're in good shape. I like the Tannahill. Do have to sign caughlin. Thanks for the call and I think that's a smart Smart Target Right there and I think John Roberts's pretty smart and I think they know what to do running back right back and as long as Derrick Henry is not gonna sit there and say you know. Screw you for franchise tagging me. I'm not showing up. Not many people do that. I think they're going to run this thing back and figure out how to pay Henry a little bit more long-term. Maybe I'm being naive Jack Lawson is leaving the bills to go rush the passer for the dolphins. That's an interesting maneuver here. I am earlier saying you know what the dolphins I don't know what they're GONNA do in free agency and that's a pretty big maneuver to big moves today. Right and then the trade you got the trade stats right there I've got it on the screen. I got this right here we go. So Austin Hooper signs a huge contract with the browns looks like forty four million out of money and then the Atlanta Falcons replace him on the spot by acquiring. I hate nurse from the Ravens. Who have as you know pick? They got tons of tight ends coming out of your you know what so they get? Hayden hearst in the Ravens Twenty Twenty Fourth Round Pick and Baltimore gets the Falcons' second round pick this year and a fifth round pick this year. May I have this open right here? That is for Hayden hearst. Atlanta's forty-seven overall right there in the middle of the second round. Philip rivers apparently already chitchatting with the colts. That's something that we were expecting to see materialized. That's materializing right now. Mike giardi reporting the Tampa Bay Bucks have made their intentions to Tom. Brady loud and clear. Okay there you have it. I will be joining Mike Giardi in the of NFL network at the top of the next. Add the top of our four o'clock eastern. We're off the air and just a few minutes. Outta I got lost. I know you look at. What are you talking about? Hey I got three more three more hours to do on. Nfl Network from four to seven eastern. As our buddy from Fox. Jay Glazer dropped a little Easter Egg. Saying that there's one monster trade still to come involving a wide receiver right could stefan digs tweeted out. It's time for new beginning. Could be that wide receiver dude if you get him. 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Prememento #108: Season 3 Episode 32 - Andrew Johnson

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Prememento #108: Season 3 Episode 32 - Andrew Johnson

"And the idea is an interesting structural conceive essentially telling the story backwards. Beckham. Nine. Save quarterback. Save Up. against. Do the right thing go. Through the. Schuylkill. Next Day is a special day not just because you're getting your weekly dose of Promo. Goodness obviously today is Valentine's Day. We love you. That's what we're giving you the ultimate in sports and let's comedy. I mean who doesn't Associate Valentine's Day we football to be fair I would like to hear from listeners who Valentine's Day get the over half one of premium subscription now yes. Gifts to the one dollars a month and is their only gifts on Valentine's Day let's know how that goes. Signal. But not regard not going to suggest the res I correct version of this as with many different things. There's good things and there's bad things as someone with experience he said very tentatively or have been relationship with someone that follow football and being more Asian. Ships with someone that doesn't follow football is interesting the diversity between the two and the pros and cons of the two. Yeah. Is generally probably say preferable to be in relationship with somebody who doesn't care in the slightest there is something kind of identified schering's Roy word but yoga for your own personal term of your taste like shit resolve maybe will you? Well, probably not you more meet struggling guy should. Very well, and you're of a half is just completely oblivious. They're talking you down as opposed to pushing you over the edge and I seem generally surprise still that there's a game on every week. Wow. Where's this season finished? Already. And the other thing is well and doing phone this more than endearing. It's quite fantastic when you get to a point where they watch these games. So often enough that. Some of you enthusiasm has rubbed off a little boy my other half actually would pay attention to certain things involving my club as opposed to just if I mentioned anything to do with my club in previous relationships, they just roll Royce and Goat Shit fully I've never really had too much engagement classified low for one week they google the result. I saw that happening but usually. Is quite good in a way. The usual gauge moment is on the train on the Metro and I saw this result happened metro has been there for four days. Picked it up. The flip is, where shall we say tensions arose and if you've got a significant other who follows religiously their football club and these relationships do I should point out like it's not just a case of like we're being dismissive of any particular couple that supports like almost Romeo and Juliet stall they come from different factions was inside the of schools I see clearly you're talking about what Shakespeare meant is one sport skiavo wants us and if you get that reference as deep people sending us. Relationship. But the thing that for me are found really rather difficult was not necessarily the fact that we supported different clubs it was the nature of the two clubs. Liverpool fan she was Chelsea for daily relationship with somebody who actually. Cared. About football never asked to fund is Donald Trump would say they're bad people. Can actually question though she's more reflective of. People when you go out with a, did you watch a game deduction apply villa at the time not remember fully enough game in Washington ever was awesome Liverpool. Arsenal. Deployed villa that's actually no because we are in a championship saw James. Put it during art on together and this is where it gets really. We played Chelsea and we beat them quite frequently including going there in the league and beating them with a very light Clint Johnson winner. That's this goes back. You can actually work. And few months later, we went in the League Cup and buying them tune in a we talked about this season for different reasons go back and find out which podcasts. That's it those two games last minute winner, and then an all out mauling in the league. The natural order things would be you go and you got your shit. fucking terrible. Akaba. Navy banged up Glen Johnson of all people. That's Hilarious to sell my hands because their of you want to get gasoline on a fire. But for the most part, you're trying your very best to keep it as calm as possible. I think don't very often get points with being brought in this. Yeah. Yeah. That's very true. Very true and at the same time I know that if the situation were reversed an off just been beaten by a light single winner and she went into my face. Your Shit I don't think I would take very well, and fortunately when we split up I remember sitting there thinking more one big regret is not the that we split up on the specific circumstances I didn't get. To be fair. I. Remember that relationship with you also found added badly showing say one of the reasons and badly was because I had made suggestions that jury week whereby will available to go way down one day needed to be kept free in case Villa made the playoff final dot did not go down well, it'll vote we went supplier for. One, last season against Darby I think tanks grover after the game when worth it? Does as crooked. Or what side fodder for series we were talking about relationships whereby sometimes the person you was interested in football, not the father frontier either the anybody who's at any interest in cricket Nah. Point usually the response you gave blank stare, and then the conversation changes topic. Usually the response is you sit there all day and nobody wins. Basically you try to sports today to than American innocence coined the Air I remember during my time going out with a Chelsea Fan. She said to me words the effect of you could probably have me if Liverpool Bao's everytime we talk again. He was up. I. Remember I did take a former girlfriend wants and walked out. This is a twenty twenty. And a half time to be going in our Out Enough the thing is is that like? Football is slightly different. Supposed to maybe any other sport, but the problem you've got is the with the sports to are take a bit more time take a bit more of your day as it were even twenty twenty less. So but still the point still stands the reasons for going to events. They don't necessarily lend themselves to the romantic soit unless both parties are fully engaged, I've taken my other half now fiance to Anfield and because it's a bit more spectacle to it because there's a bit more like fast fluids. So of you know, unfortunately, we went to one of the worst guys Paul applied nuts for years, and that was against Plymouth. In theory, there's a bit more there that you can go in. So of pliers looking entertainment to. An event whereas if I took it to the quickey a bit more like you're coming to this to me drink. Outlook listeners, Russia points out where my girlfriend of time left. Accra hearts I I stayed wash cricket then went out and got pissed. All's well ends. Well, Roy. Took about the profit relationship. The perfect relationship obviously say cart be found. It doesn't exist. It does exist it's your relationship with this podcast. This is the Promo Parliamentary podcast is true quickly along saw alongs bar is always in the first season from gained thirty eight to game. The born last year we went from twenty, eight, two, thousand, nine, hundred and all the way back to the first incarnation of the Premier League and this year we're telling the story of the primarily to the themselves every club, every era, every position, every story about Valentine's Day that you can listen to go. Thank God I'm not then people man I got the extended. That's Funny we're talking about love and things that. We're talking today about apply the host of broken heart on one occasion very specifically. But before we move on, we're GONNA start with the question I asked every single time, which is what is your general consensus opinion about we're GONNA be talking about today and the Johnson it's kind of a like a cliche opinion too key y buzzers are going to be frantically guided background but Andy Johnson remember I'd bought season where school lot penalties Australia yet. Still in on the way we go buy things in this podcast is we don't go in the traditional sense we from the end of their career to the very start now I have to do or so mop the idea the Andrew Johnson does sewing full and play. One League Cup game for Christa Pilots Roy at the end. But that's not where we're going to start with. We start. Then with the lust primarily game, he played a significant game for the club for in terms of their own of rivalries. This team which eventually goes down takes four points off from the season but actually, for Andrew Johnson, this is the fourth game of the season. He placed three games on only one of those is the full monty and after the fifteenth timber, that's it. He's done for the season Krisha. So four games in its at Loftus road with keep Ya undemarcated. Keep, your nail, Chelsea nil the last time we ever played in the Premier League probably, WANNA keep house best results actually to be honest you thinking as I said, I actually took four points off mass fans out there will be able to work out one the other game. So you can take four points off that Chelsea. So the maybe had the best season than you'd expect fortunately, they pretty much took four points. For That but I don't remember the game in question but the thing I remember a lot about that season is seamark. STARTS THIS SEASON IN CHARGE High Redknapp comes in nearly halfway through the season view a look in terms of their transfer record. season. And you're going to say which one was in charge in the summer. which was in charge in January you probably would have gone the other way round. It is one of them. You look back and you go most quite decent. You just put together like a combination in the cookery sense of flavors and it's like this is not. This is not tasty dish but fully if the best road season was when they brought Chris Samba in a giant Chrysler and sold him back to the same cleverly end of the season with the same price was this the woman hired not was given a list of Loy Maldini is Paik hippy is peak. In the future is peak anchor somber went out the government good defenders peaks. was quite peak where news of villa but even generally look at the transfers on paper you like. About, some of them economy mirrors a currency him in primarily this season Boyne a lot plays in the summer thinking these flies aren't so bad. But these plays broad like just did not work out so and you look in terms of their record overall, they come bomb and you know there's ways and means of coming bomb. Four wins journey course an entire season Geez sewer home to I. They come fourteen points off seventeenth, which is fifty points because of the goal-difference. This must have been an absolutely dreadful from start to finish. No hope everyone crying every week but there was a point during the course of this season up until caught in the middle of March they were four points off safety and now planets seventeen and it's got nothing to do about Johnson. They played Villa Miller March they just want to games on the bounce I'm have all the talk was our redknapp. He's going to scrape and lead keep you on that game villa. Dreadful. We realized in Soft Sharma. First off some I think at Bond Horse Gordon ask asking I wasn't wasn't great villain free to keep yards did not win a single came to that the rest of the season. Wanted Him. You Win that game there. One point of safe to. Talk about crashing and burning I thought who boxer afraid into to early. But you know kind of in bit fortify where they get the fighters together and the wreck on and goes spoke you in the dressing room you've got to keep it clean kind of all the touch globes especially equivalent gallbladder defense. Close to half of me. To get out of it. I'm sure Ashley seen a boxer much to walked. In with a game ever since. Not. Really to Johnson to be honest but his last. Appearance was his last week so We have to address and it's just the fact of is not that much to do on the Johnson is because the whole season for? In the thing is like it wasn't there. So it was involved it was involved supposed to go. Could he made a difference keeping them off but then you can fifteen voices a lot. It's my but I suppose you might have been slightly forever above water to begin with if he'd been involved, you know scoring goals and all that ever GonNa, keep your down to be fair but I think he was symbolic of how disastrously wrong that keep your seats and when it comes in injured almost immediately. Replied coming in not really doing a lot in the grand scheme of things. Touch upon why I've actually done. Howdy been there for the sheriff up to ease the following season. When they're in the championship, keep your he plays seventeen games schools to. So it gives me an indication of like not quite at the peak of his power. Should we saw now I suppose the injuries probably can affect at this stage because crucial as well. You would have probably needed another season to get back to where you were. That's in your best years. Let alone you'll get a little. Yeah. Is Tricky to come back as we'll go off very podcast. Nikolay injuries previously and is taking not taller suppose certainly taken a toll on. Pretty spectacular effort dreadfulness. They drew a few games positive. They true quite a few games. Interested in often as you go back to the previous season and for the previous reply for Fulham the numbers there. So what we're saying in terms of injuries because he badly breaks the halfway stage in terms of guaranteed play twenty. Minutes on fantastic in terms of the games that he does apply the record few. So of off the bench encounters guess three goals in that Tom. So only one game that one game is against. Kinky awful enough. They, like what they saw. That last season of Fulham plays thirteen times leaguer scores aches. As a decent record and then in terms of Fraut, the entire card of time at Fuller, which commodity. Goal score record in the League is pretty much over warning six in terms of J. scores. One goal every six point sewing. Appearances Interactivity. Full of is record is better than wanting to interestingly enough. Oh i. It. Have Gone on a journey basically ended up in the same place that they started, which is they came up through divisions at Spending Monir and there were eye staple in the premier league but never really making a mark on the modern y'all especially Montiel is connor, the epitome of that. But a so of not quite going to do it when masters I've eaten alive injuries as well. COMING SWIFT vows nine, two, thousand, ten, season I think he was he was injured for most of it. Twenty, ten, twenty, seven he was injured for a bit of analysis is kind of the thing for Johnson? Frau is career. It is always like an old fashioned connor center forward. You know he's got pace of power not a huge amount skill really I think. One of the criticisms that have been thrown out before I was Chris. So you get certain system in a certain way and he did school variety goals. Bob Is not really type of player who gets going to drop-dead go past. You almost even as they say, this makes it look a little more damning in terms of his record numbers. Is it fair to say the game even this? Him Wasn't quite complicated because you think to yourself, you're only required to stick the ball in the net the stage even body ends needing to do a bit more combination of the skill set my not being there. But by the end, there was more dangerous cocoa well, not physically been able to do what was required really I suppose in terms of they had two Europa League campaigns where was full of the first one, twenty, nine, two, thousand, ten under Roy Hodgson where to get to the final was kind of the big one. Of from history but in terms of his contribution, he plays four games in company schools, free goals, but the free goals he scores are in the qualification rounds. Yes. So when they're in the group stage proper all those results, all great results, he's not even saying no and I think just as a whole season is a massive or foreign because e manages in the League ninety minutes. Images and if I cook eighty-three minutes, he plays in the premier league just shy of six hundred minutes. That's a folksy season. It's not just one injury got three separate injuries listed for him, the season and all coined of in different areas. So if you've got a dodgy name or you keep ripping the same muscle over and over again, maybe you're not looking after it particularly well in. Manages point too much stress on you as the comeback but the course of this season he fractured his collarbone is a groin strain and he has knee problems. Yeah. There's a lot going on in terms of they get final obviously lot decent results good teams in the League. Would you like to hazard a guess of how Games they would await always hard show you'd looking a. Won't they win one game away again? That's not particular Johnson's fall unless you're GONNA blame them for being injured. But is the juxtaposition of what was going on in era for Fulham knowledge and also Johnson's contribution or blackall because of his injury situation enough then if you go about two. Nine Johnson somehow manages to start the season with an injury, but the terms of his Fulham career actually manages to play a big part in it and it's thirty one games. Seven goals four assists at the very least even though on paper it's not like the world breaking records. It's still fundamentally just get him on the pitch first of all. Season for the they have a very season grand things of seventh. I'll just launch points out during the entirety of Andrew Johnson Fulham whether he's playing with he's not in the to crews they finish fifty by this has got it a peak of contribution, but also the peak in terms of the season obviously we all remember Roy Hodgson winning the Barclay Spirit Award. season. Not One and also the t one the behavior of the public told. These out Victoria. By basically this was Jacob Rees mark like in these early days. The best show chimney sweep award that was a popular one about that. But the thing I didn't remember until doing the research is how much full paid for and the fact that come onto flip the tape they buy them from make a profit despite them as come onto a bit not. To ask about every state all the words very much, and I've alluded to this before about high football changed not just in the two thousands but in the twenty tens but this point just as we were moving ever closer through the twenty tens there was I think Mrs been dispelled for the most part but this was the height of the Premier League proven all you have to voice. So mom from the premier. League, Vera. And everything needed the money will come onto bullets another very good season before they came in and they just about survived to drop. One of those fabled grace escape season. So they're looking to make a statement or it more. You don't really associate Roy. Much one player. Manassas. Book and Jessica. Well, it's funny because they don't start the season particularly well, Johnson, said, doesn't for a Playa, you spend that money on misses the first two games with injury took about fucking foreshadowing they win in his debut a home to Bolton they then go on a three much losing streak an five-match sort of not winning streak because there's too attached to that, and then the Song Johnson start scoring does run of four goals in four games, and then after that, it's solid harshness all the way round four draws only two goals in four games It's kind of one of those things where Roy Hodgson Andrew Johnson that wasn't meant to Roy Moore as much as it did. Seven, goals and four assists does it sound low indicating Cohen but for a manageable a caution for a settler Hodgson in adjusting for inflation you adjusting for Hodgson that almost looks like you could add Louis half again and he's like ten and six. It looks better actually orders talk about whether UK needs to stay single market. So about how market I mean that's the more volatile in the stock congestion. Hatred for but he comes in obviously he's the big money signing twelve and a half billion to transfer. As you're coming on a free join season augury make more of an impact full of they bring in wash water on a free. Salton gear and is a bank balance. This particular free transfer makes impacts. This is the summer whereby Chris morning comes in and plays the path season. I can't recall this season as half ineffective gets into team based season seven billions, Monday night. That's pretty good business. He's GONNA at talking about switched turnarounds in as we move back then to his time, Everson and slightly more better times on the field. But this wasn't a better time for as you say, David Moyes looking to. Get rid of reds during research for this, the other day that and we spoke about different Everton stroke because in the past and when you compare him to very similar airstrikes that we talked about it even long ago journeys Beta with beatty it was just a case of Moi's didn't really font him anymore, and again Johnson is they never actually had an argument that he really fall I it was just moist really fun to anymore and he said he'd after two seasons Avidsson. Before did research, he was a a club. He was palace one for four years to which way would you flip? To the full of I'm GonNa, give away order for. Fourteen in for two, but it wasn't his only ellison for two. Everson calling career in two years. The stars of his first season was wear all went right. Just, kind of disintegrated Kinda four and is very similar to beat in terms of Everton their annual beauty parade they spent a lot of money or one striker George this period hoping now might the difference they don't usually make the difference during this time, and then it tells what Johnson left because they're offered a stupid about money in Grad school things because he had another great season, the numbers second season, and also used the money in theory to gun shrimp from the squad in various surfer but evidence respective fragrant deal. Unfortunately, it did not end up qualifying obviously again, you said at the top is almost a tyler to seasons you look seven. An is just an absolute cornucopia of. RUNA games from January The star Middle Generous middle that would seven games and draw. So I, didn't tell him. They gave from V two V. Wade. Think the flip side of that just lay in thick to give you an idea of what this coroner season was forever tune ninety Johnson the next nine games on two of which Johnson doesn't play any power whatsoever die lose for draw for a winter they go from fifth to. Talk about everybody wants in a situation where there's no consequences do that's pretty much what was going on but terms of that season, there's no consequences for Everson of what's going on and Johnson is having no consequence wherever he's. Deal to contrast is you say? Apply, making a big impact and we joked about this audio, the primarily proven the idea that if a strike comes in usually strike because you don't tend to get it with defenders and midfielders from can remember he got a little bit with goalies push Roy was the main source of always proven to score goals and we'll get to boy and how thing came about came back one very specific season but in terms of hitting the ground running tons of underlying that fact and in terms of fundamentally making Everton fans very happy this Everton. Soy D- Who have already gone through turmoil of we got the Z. Qualifies we've got not aware really shit season because we didn't really recover. Johnson. Comes in star this season on hits the ground in a wide it's like Oh my God. I can't believe what's happening in six goals in his first seven games. They don't lose any of them and fundamentally I was hoping to they this life was hoping this is a three victory over Liverpool in there and it was under Rapid Benitez for David Moyes disowned the last times I remember being. To Disney and I go. Fucking mad at Dr Intrical I'd also I'm pretty sure if you don't remember these Games, Dora Dvd's that much I do know it's still there itself sex in terms of best evidence. Just can't reprinting it. Basically, you know you've got some classic books been imprinted light four, hundred, hundred years this DVD. Just keeps second round. But I can laugh at it now because of what's happened since but everyone had gone through as I mentioned ups and downs, and this was a list start to the season was more of a case of Ikea we're back. We're GONNA do this again unfortunately for David Moyes evison end somewhere in the middle it's up to Johnson he comes in record son. Point six, million house. This great star he's. Gathering tide is turning and. Big Dogs anymore. Okay. They would've good as eyebrows arrays. Okay. We'll see what's going on here referred at one point of course about season. As, interesting, interesting to allergens actually. So if you're listening, this is when the diving accusation start coming in Allardyce carnivals ago few of mine is ever going in terms of how you know you just looking for the contacts and his four goes off a cliff. Yeah and if you really look at, it sounds of his career nowhere near of the same player again in terms of the numbers to an interesting one because account remember that many English plies you've had this accusation level we see on a weekend we kept vices with implies we've run five routes with all picked our own guys that we go. Yeah, he. Doesn't matter what they do Dover, but generally speaking I, don't tend to being these plies Jenny speaking even when they are it spun in a completely different way. It's always clever destroys. He corrected the contact don't seem to recall off the top of my head an English apply that was vilified in a why the he was also. Same. Can you remember a number example of a Playa vilified for Donovan who just start scoring pretty much the result because I can think of a few players who had a reputation for diving but I still carried out scoring goals. I mean you kind of non example you know Renaldo, this periods at united us known as a diver English players Ashley Young knows dive even in a little nibbles in terms of innovation but deliver that was one that was spun a different way. You know being clever carnival hurricane but none of those kind of in a situation like our you've had your hand corner cookie jar. It off to jail, but it didn't really seem to really affects him interesting in enjoyed Avidsson after season championship, he could've left how he called. It made his name as we'll come onto the full force of those accusations was it really made at that stage where you would afford it might of been a bit more. Perspective is definitely do. But it didn't affect him then. I think it's fair to say though from a momentum coin to standpoint for pilot Andy Johnson who we know has injury problems and they do get slightly worse later on the penalty represents a very good easy chance to get back into the wrong form or at least the flow of the might even the feeling of. Doing something for which not just under Johnson I think forwards have that sort of like it's an easy way to get back into it. When you've come from injury Johnson, it's not just the Donovan accusations lack of penalties then draw up. The injuries don't so that when he comes back into, he needs the more and can't get them even more. Yeah. I, mean I think it ended up boy said package like to the headed refs signed. He's been absolutely stitched into positions. If only they are who've been around at times, you would have been the perfect scenario everybody lives. If, wrong. About Valentine's Day perfect couples, they are oh. Yes. Much to have a perfect bedfellows before we get to the main reason why Andre Johnson such big hit. So early on in his primarily career and the all the goals in all the glory that came with a there is one thing to mention here, which is the he leaves Everton to go to Fulham because of an incident. Starts around his England career and we talked about so many strikers and Sony players in and around the Mid-2000s to the early twentieth and level suite which they need to hit, which is funny. Given the Father Inland wide exactly lot picking up trophies left right and center we won. But up until kind of funny enough to payroll whereby Johnson makes wannabes only competitive stars we had a decent decency. Yeah. It went very downhill very quick. Competition for places, shelter, Book Johnson comes into England team during his big season in two thousand and three, thousand and four, and a catapulted by two factors. One I had no idea of the other one is quite simply the fact that he was scoring goals in the premier league. That's all Mike. At this point, two goals in the Premier League you get lot five England caps just for for a cereal nice and everybody loves gifts coming out and wounded. HOW GHETTO BANISH? So annoyed of the, they don't do that anymore but the other factors involved in this is the. End completely comes from sometimes Fox just hit you on the face and this is definitely one of them. The idea the Andrew Johnson could apply for Poland and he said as much in an interview and then basically cost. Bendigo Bank. That is a great kind of intrigue in terms of what was going on at the time because a strikers of Maurice vintage of Troy Detrick and it hasn't worked. Of actually. Comply for Australia. Back Home Yup. Now you're not. is about I'm not as crazy book she goes. Yeah I have somebody from Poland. Losing fucking globe singer on the globe to the other thing is an this comes into play later on in his Everton days, which is the fleur striker as you mentioned, the audio of momentum and what would then go on to be broken career in terms of injuries in Johnson's first England cap spin as was the flavor of the Toy Place Johnson on the Roy and this whole ordeal it wasn't quite Dutch total football the day that you could play any player at any position. We just had a real fucking hard off apply implies a position I don't fit going to be any. Andrew Johnson would be able to fit into the Dutch total football is not. What happens here is somewhat ironic given everything we talked about so far which is the Johnson makes his debut for England plays eight caps. The mostly one international tournament parents you say, nodoze one like Competitive Star House a qualifying game is so it doesn't even get nearer tournament closest gets he's on standby for two thousand, six, world, Cup, which is interested in terms of past season two, thousand, five, hundred, thousand, six is in a championship with Palace iffy would've as we'll come onto. The situation when he stopped was high to take a move to the premier league, he knows if he potentially could've gotten World Cup squad I mean staying in the championship pretty much torpedoed these challenges we've talked about it previously terms of peaking at the right time. To build up to a tournament. The Big Randy Johnson is almost at the wrong time. Yes. It's a year too early. No no definitely, and in terms of every single ply, we've ever spoken about it always seems to hinge on this two thousand, six World Cup at so many it seems to be the oil the storm for a lot of these generation applies and for Andrew Johnson's latter cl- career he has a doctorate impact in the fats he planned on the Roy Forty place for England and David Moyes who criticize the time for Planning Roy ends up lying him on the Roy himself forever turn when they sort of go into their full Moi system. Lab Iran. That second season Addison when I got, you might not front try to accommodate the the phrase genius steals and Sodas Voice. That's literally the closest genius. If a constant Moi's not been completely sarcastic, we'll take it. We're GONNA move on then to one season for which is on this list, and in this podcast I tried to do the palm mutations of what happens if you remove Andre Johnson from the law of the PARLAMENTO cornerstones list who asked you for Crystal Palace there isn't really much in terms of options I think sausage yes. Definitely terms of a one off Flato mazing start the might not be repeated again anytime soon, you Congo much better than the most goals in a relegation Soit Not Season comes in to the premier league that wasn't a huge amount of expectation that he was going to take the League by storm I mean when he comes into palace a couple years before that was wasn't really much expectation who's going to take the championship particularly by still is used as a makeweight in a deal for Clinton Morrison skelly of away he's. got a bit of an after four palace in season last game of the season they still have an opportunity to style and a large part of that reason was because of Andrew Johnson's goals. This was the season which is absolutely bashing mental in terms of other bomb caused great escape, which is really the worst escape because he was wanted like the lowest points total. Style by West Brom but in terms of the expectations going into this season and fully suspect the answer to this question is going to be now. Do you remember some of the players pilots for buying before to start a season coming in. There's at least a couple of war I'm going to, of course but now Mark Hudson, Emmerson? Boyce. Jillions. Baroni that was spoiler now is the peak yoenis Coca Sandra Talk L. Fits whole Wayne Andrews Gonzalez around the Nikola Ventilator God's energies are do remember that boy that's a deep black blackhall of my footballing member. There's a brief second way thinking that is a good sign it was for woman. Yeah it was knocker. Priscilla's lackey's and Anthony. Dancer. Dancers. To. Dance away the hearts that is crystal policies transfer business for their salt on their premier league and Andy Johnson is how to play up fraud with plays while particularly good. Let's. And he's pretty much how to take it all on himself and fully enough they have a dreadful start to season you looking at that I mean it comes to their first win game number rice fully enough in terms of like. The perfect circle first win in a friendly full of anti, Johnson School who's and then they end up being on a little bit of a run in terms of they win two out the next three that beat West Brom Ahome Johnson schools to they be blues away Bet Johnson scores. One nil winner said, that's obviously a bit of personal price fill up. That would get for wall. They'd be the over team from burglaries to talk about. For beat Spurs, our home and he scores eight blues again to do the double and he scores both both penalties. So Palace beat Blues Free Nail not good you season six points. Johnson school. They beat Liverpool Home Johnston scores, and so they're in a position going into the end of it where they had a chance to stay up a forty going last three games of the season. They don't win any Johnson discord. Alaska season that Charleston they get done by les goals that pronouncement. Game South. Home ninetieth minute equaliser Schultz in a way Charleston school less than ten minutes to go and almost got it a thing allergy. Also policies known as ease hero he got voted into their best team who time brought about six, thousand five I think he was He was one of the only plaza was still playing kind of tie massing of Odeon Goalie, which was unsurprising for previous reasons listen to podcast about Nausea Watson's find out why they only go down by one point they would have held on against Charlton they would have stayed up the accusation gets banded around about Wolman teams. Jesus Christ. This month's tentatively Johnson. Of Its twenty one. Yes. Palette score forty, one in total John. So is another quote high actually consider the plastic after. Anomalies whereby he's schools more than half the goals defensively is is a great could see sixty two goals but knowledge you Cologne Cassini's seventy seven, sap to bomb sixty six. So they could see the Fed most there's only so much John's could do did so much. Yes, and yet couldn't quite get a Motorola literal most employees can do in. We didn't see the often to be honest choice stands out so much. It's why. It's so idea of usually premier league teams down there because they can't school. So in this instance it so of magnified, you've got plow breaking twenty goals and still it's not enough to hold them up for the record by the way under Johnson still to this day number one in terms of most goals were teams going down any idea who devoid below him. Funny. Enough. We talked about earlier cougars in there for Blackburn. Went down she's out with seventeen. I'll give you a clue to one of the players is someone we've talked about on this list previously, but I would say it's hassle bankbook. We all know what happened to Chelsea when he was there how in a bit the proverbial mind blanket not photo fifteen. Sunland went down. So you need deposit in second the person in fourth on the positive six, which is primarily the reason why I've actually offered this except possibly six is every. soldier the clothes that might help a little want him to keep your. Remmy no. I'll move. One of his Middlesbrough. Ravanelli. Yes. Unfortunately for the one that's hilarious. Photography Club give it why. So we'll move back to the one. Keep your it was a recent Asia season I think it was. Last season in the Premier League, Charleston? Yes. He second list with eighteen. Points with Andrew Johnson twenty-one Charlie, Austin it Yakubu, seventeen revenue sixty, two, four, fifty and ticks this with thirteen goals. The Soyuz planning went down for the dining daycare. No. Account I can't give you the club because the club gives it away but I've only had one season in the premier. League also platform this is not Charlie Adam No. Got have a front. OF THAT SEASON Modern held up front, but has it is going to be honest with you. Equivalency level. Choice of their means a bunch of misfits. Carter. Who They are put your immeasurable because you make noise gum Dj Campbell Fuck. Gluck say only the brought it out. To good for those that want to write in by the way Darren bent is join level with digital. Campbell in terms of thirty dollars but I wouldn't know fun. I we do try and bring humor and Pathos to are listening concentration point times as a record than does a season I. Think it's actually possible for this to be repeated again, fundamentally because there's someone starts scoring, should I just be snatched in? January. I says to make goals as well. We've kind of make Johnson's contribution a bit more unique. Panels a large proportion. Yes. Most of they'll be one himself list as well. Are we mentioned you know Forbi- pace but not exactly never been particularly tricky search wind quite lot penalties. To show you the standard of different in that was going on at the time. Now it's true I suppose but I suppose it were some slight accusations going towards they kind of they were held back as we mentioned for what he was next back into primarily about we're not going to let this. Before nice true. It would have been interesting to see just because I add a nostalgia does this. The rule dives, but it would be interesting to watch a whole lot rail of the back and Ceelo, at which ones will get done on VR and which ones would have. What we need to go back and correct historic mistakes. The mistake is bringing their. Do you did mention by the way that he saw day of law Andrew Johnson gets his moved palace under specific circumstances. We don't normally do this, but you just wanted an excuse to larger solve pariahs and club. So yeah, I WANNA have, Ya shape shop. GEICO's of palaces the might wait for Clinton. Applying together again, fully enough yen really remember Johnson, IMP lose. It didn't have a very good in terms of goal schools blues. As free appearances, eight goals. The great white hope from remember from a local perspective. True. But what I did have done up period was an appears Lico final. Let's talk about adversity makeup the man he has the ultimate deciding penalty shootout against Liverpool. Mrs Must've in that moment they saw comeback and school for Everton in a game, which will be released on DVD and it's still available also never going to miss an open Reagan. Record after that because very good. But. You wouldn't afford from that that we caught it talks about the. Season the Palace Start Everton. Okay. But generally, not the career you advantage waited you weren't really despite DA after cut children, Bitch. He did make himself a success in that sense ring learned topflight created primarily league plays in Europe's goes goals so inadequate well, come back from now, but I just wanted I think ultimately, there is something to be said for having a top Navy career or a bottom heavy career in terms of the ending it really well or starting it really well, that tends to make the Roy's all the full if you WANNA call it. That seem a little bit more dramatic if he's as his goal spread out across the curriculum when you look at the record ultimately, I think it's something like hundred, Ninety, seven games fifty one goes when you consider the time he misses injuries well, those numbers don't look anywhere near as bad as we've gone through it I think the problem you've guides it's spread far too heavily at the star and not at all at the end. I'd also I suppose predominantly in terms of one club as well and it does palace in terms of e had free seasons and she wanted to primarily is record is better than wanting to at least nine as a legend. Because of that, so I suppose it is the ultimate. Would you rather be a one hit wonder? No forever for one song or be banned you kind of had like eight or nine Probably, won't hit wonderful. Well, let's place jokes about it before nine the couple of random players how many crystal palace players from the Premier League era are in contention real probably like Najjar Mine Gar Southgate potentially certainly known from the modern no not real. Well, let's see Fernan saw maybe for a soy the has been to the primarily a few times and has had various different guises and has played its part in different stories into woven. You'd think it'd be a few more standard players. 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The Draft Is The Easiest, Most Difficult Thing In The World

Mickstape: The Barstool Basketball Podcast

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The Draft Is The Easiest, Most Difficult Thing In The World

"The UH game saints one shoot remains a foul one of the best kept secrets you went flat game. It's east coast. San Francisco rarely is gone down to the tenderloin by Madison Square. Roy I love the the the small regions I've taught you learn you. Learn a little oak region in every city. Brings you closer to the people. There right keeps you. Oh they he just well what they do when when Conan was doing is a tour between when it got kicked off. NBC Him before he got the T. B. S. thing like he whenever nondisclosure resigned said he couldn't do like radio TV like any like traditional forms forms of media for like a year and so he did like a like a nothing about live like tour so he did that and like when he's writing out this show he literally writes in a regional gag. It's like twelve steps of grieving and like the last step was like you get your ass to Columbus Ohio. I I even when he's doing that he's like he's like this all work every time then they beloved me Whoa Springfield dead mint either like a local beer or a local highway for that guy ten. y'All got us something saying trough it's that or if you go to like Pittsburgh Brothers around like Ooh. That's our cuisine. The House down by those three rivers ABC is a great show. Hey We know exactly where we were. I was GONNA wear my black and white but I figured I thought my black and yellow Allo like where do they get those towels travel with them. Those things are terrible not who they're cycles. All right all right easy fellas. This just take any mentioned mustard once once is coming third hour today How are you most with the PECs? Pretty Pretty Solid Walker came on with some some decent picks out. He didn't pick it. Didn't pick up your social media at all not NFL. NFL media tweeted out the finalists for this week's receiver. Week for the top one hundred list. So they tweeted out the finalists and at first at first glance. I didn't even say Malzahn here in Iowa just believed the Internet at boy. He's on on their molly as he should. You never know what the NFL NFL fucks up. Left and right agrees on there twice. It's our Raymond Barre Fred bullet. Nikolov Chris Carter Tom. Tom Fears which are real. Strong name. Don't know anything about presently. Strong name. Larry Fitzgerald come on Marvin Harrison. Recall Bob Hayes Bob. Okay Elroy Elroy Hirsch Crazy League Don Hudson. That's hut man. Yes obvious Michael. Irvin Calvin Calvin Johnson. Good Touch Charlie Joiner Steve l'argent who I really only know from the early. Two thousands throwback boom of of like. Oh three listen. That alone should get a man. I don't I don't disagree that anyone who played for the Buffalo Braves Dante lavelli James James Lofton dot. Don Made Don's randy gene. Moss Torello her grandma Moses Mountain making it peaked peak Pyeho sure Jerry Rice okay. John Stallworth okay. Charlie Taylor also known as Chuck Paul Warfield I mean we pick from like seven again Let me see I guess. They accidentally tweeted it out already and deleted it Who who made it? The twenty only only ten made it But so they tweeted out they posted deleted it and then they went and and already announced officially announce the first to make it which by my counts means. He's the best of everyone. Everyone because they put Randy Moss. I that's Randy Moss and a bunch of blacks. I can't wait to this. I need to bring the rear court of this list That I'm like all right now. It's just Maas us. Top one hundred receivers vault randomized. No one else. That'd be great if they get everybody in the room. Everybody comfortably Ma. It's just like crushing his Paper Cup in his act. He's wearing that chicken for reasons. Now understands Israel's we'll be discussing. The pig was a from must been one on one of the techie. Derby's him Eshelman in. Tom Brady breath holding the championship marine. They are multi time champion. See what I'm saying. They got more than you do one of them. Do you like me taking a picture Jordan. We hold my crm holding my warlike. Yeah symbiotic you put that down kidding me is is the most insecure great. I've seen maybe of any sport. Honestly I don't imagine Gretz gay just ran like I was a nasty like he on it. See in check back seek shacks just feels like it feels different to me. 'cause shacks ax shacks is doing it to put someone else down Jerry Rice's always doing it to prop himself up which feels worse. Now I'd agree as different Shaq's will for the most part that you chirp Lamont. It's a hot button for him. Of course but Jerry Rice is is I walk. It industry late was was eighty five bowling. BP WHO said. I mean it was just shaking children like you know who I am. I know I got one thousand. Four hundred seventy two catches As I saw I just as if he is market street to the left or to the right it is a bad said it's sad. Would what happens Jerry Rice and listen. I know that these shows are only an hour so I doubt he's speaking on it because they don't have enough time to to even edit out all of his talking about himself. That's the only talking going to be like anybody else. You could get in there to talk about. The players. Originally rises adding commuter talked about John on you stalwart. Yeah no no no. No Good Utah Chucky Taylor once he gets twenty two thousand five under seventy two receiving yards. Quarter Dr J. Grow Up people. Were fairy. Julio wasn't even a finalist your school more than four games a season high stakes He's about to pass rice for. I think it's fastest justice. It's the fastest. Twelve thousand yards are most yards through nine seasons. Whatever that whatever's at ugly both? Yeah good on the fall. I think I think halt might be one. I don't even think it's rice who's one let's go. Jin Hee surpassed them if the second most leaving yards through players. First Nancy's Holt has is number one okay. But about the past seven to yet he is sixty nine yards away. Imagine he'll get that. Oh Oh yeah so you get all these These records and in Moscow. I'm used to be I keep saying malls as the greatest Anita rise to lose every single. Because that's really what he's like. Moving forward at all he has. Is that the money. It's not for nothing it's all he has and I love because Hank Aaron was like I don't care who breaks record. I'm not moving from my chair. alson statement to whoever for. I don't really care I got it was they. Were trying to kill me when I broke that record something like I don't want this shit keep it. I'm happy I would have been legitimately upset. Ah If Maas was left off. That feels like a very. This is the way all these lists have been. There's been very few people just from modern times to make these silas steals on like he clearly should be but I'm surprised it made even the finding the listening. I don't think he made the top ten. Let me check. I can't imagine he would would be. That is what I didn't know. Torry Holt was doing numbers like that early. No to Fitzgerald did make it though boy. That's life it's everybody's will I love La. Now that's a big time. He's he's a compiler it's fine. Oh Yeah He. He's Vince Carter Man. Like in his prime. He was really good like really. But these last six seven seasons like when you look at like discarded twenty-five thousand points later featured his sixteen thousand house of receiving or whatever he had again Frank Gore. It's fine yeah I was GonNa say Senator Frank Gore. Yeah it's fine but at their peak I think he was a receiver in the Franco was running bed. I give him that top ten of all time that they might. Yeah Ten in my lifetime. I'm not taking them over to you. It's like not even a question because it's like it can't be career because he'll beat a lot of people. Gregory played nineteen. See if you tell me I get either this person. I don't know I ten or best five or whatever I bet I can think of ten guys. I'd rather take even before I in some of these guys I don't like Donna. Hudson was their deal right like like the numbers he was doing when nobody was asking at all he was dead so knows a couple of guys. It'd probably be up there town like in my lifetime. I feel like we've done this before. Like would you take him a Reggie Wayne who've I that's cool. I probably go to jail. But it's close right but like Reggie Wayne wasn't even consideration for the top twenty three. That's the problem. Yeah I agree that and he was really good to like I wouldn't. It's I can imagine. Torry Holt was either. I always our PAL bruce disrespect. It's hard to ask this question now just because of what's been happening but you're not taking fits over. Ab now talent wise now like he wasn't even a problem for are like seven years like he had a long enough rod where it's not even like I only at three apiece like no no no no it was a long fucking peak looking at Fisher has won first first team all pro in to second team all pros. Same as Wayne one of the Mississippi. Still playing Reggie Reggie Wayne showed up to one patriots practice. I was like fuck this which I will. Spam could only do address. Johnson are Larry Fits. Andre Johnson wasn't even consideration for this. Of course we cocoon Why was his terrible quarterbacks? People's telling me salesman. Dwayne Bowe was a legend. I won't let them be forgotten. Oh Yes to play with a terrible arable quarterback. Just wasn't in Cleveland for a minute to boy. He is bag like a million like every catch like they shouldn't act offense. Resume Knock off. That's the capstone achievement. Add to like he did. Look I think he did. A thousand yard with Brody Coils quarterback think he did twelve hundred. Like Damian you are it was doing numbers numbers. And there's Alex Smith Lake no wires touchdown for an entire calendar year. Alex Smith not a good Alex. Smith wasn't Dwayne Bowe is a staple on on my fantasy teams back that guy. He was basically Julio. Because you get a bunch of yards and no touchdowns who disrespect Dwayne Bowe and hungry listen The overload leaking can touchdowns. I know Dwayne Can't imagine he has now 'cause it came up with an Allen Robinson and I was like yeah. He's a modern Dwayne Bowe. This guy like he. He had Hackenberg in college then went to late nineties. Trubisky people what you talk Robson was where I was like. Wait a minute announcing is good really good but when the wind blows good name Dwayne Bowe was. Lsu Too right yes. Yes Sabin Sabin back back before. They even considered having quarterbacks championship at saving team got not was was. He used all right mark. That's bad quarterback. He played with the idea that says quite a bit and he he made all pro team which I'll robson hasn't so we won't be smirking. The good name Larry Fits or Steve Smith Steve. Another guy who works for this network work. Who didn't even make the top twenty four I bill chick personal security is maybe? I'm just looking at teams trying to think by. I've actually never really gone back. And looked at his numbers grow up and all my life since he's been on TV for the entirety of it. It feels like keyshawn. Johnson spent a big deal. He like I remember. He was good he was I remember he was. He was doing numbers I remember he was he was catch. One hundred passes ask everybody running for seven hundred yards right so he yeah he was a guy who's another guy like short pre You hear the boy. One hundred six catch season with one touchdown. I would have been wider rice boy loop hoop boil. Julio Johnson. He's core Tinto's once in his career off west and also Chad. Ted Johnson has more all pro teams Yeah he has three straight I teams. You know I- has three total. Who is not on this list much now because he played for the we didn't ever if he just stayed? Cincinnati never played for the Patriots. Bella jags like I always wanted this guy. This guy he he did everything it but the bowel check out to college Mary. It was like nope. Not even top one thousand is why never coach which reads I can't flex to finally read. Just keep the totally messy locker parks on the coaches parking spots. Go ahead Rayvey. What about Who just came to mind? faulk Larry Fits are now. Say It's feels like Larry Fits but Larry Fits or Dez Bryant now Fisher was nice too low it was. I think Chad is still only personally. The conferences receiving yards for years straight. I think Abeedin do that that I would think because I want to say he like he went back and forth like he would lead and like either catch or touchdowns or yard like sometimes the two of three but outright just straight yards. I'm checking I want. Maybe a three twenty fourteen seventeen. So he's done but not nobody's done stacking worthless. Yeah I think Chad the twenty sixth Twelve eighty four can imagine that lead the AFC. Doc Joe Flato Yuck Trey Trey lyles throwing beer on people to it. Uh trials out of the West Britain. Yeah what happened there. I I know he didn't make it better westbrook through like a pass out of bounds down looked over and I don't know what trailer house was doing Good Not Wide Umbro. Ab St Naturally Lord on Florida on Florida crime trials just a medicine defend your baby boy here a guy that is Canadian to me. Of course he's a minute. Does those going speaking to Canadians. Nellie would never ever ever get asked what are you doing in this establishment. Who invited you yet? Listen the only argument for drake extreme. Who invited you? Have you seen my streaming number you kidding me because I'm really trying to think what people meant but like you can't. I don't even think it can be talent thing 'cause it was like he can wrap and saying saying I was like. Yeah but Wayne's better than he is either. Nellie had sweat and suit you. Listen I can't believe drake's keeps getting picked on all these things I can't believe people aren't watching them and it we're not watching him catch the and again. It's it happens but watching it live and people are like well. I mean you understand. He's got more clicks into the Beatles Impose Malone's like second so most malone this year had the two highest streaming albums came out like three years ago. Okay okay yeah so again I I want to second groups of all time. Because he's clearly not so I don't that was tough. Drake funnier spots from drake. where he's just like? What do you mean who invited drake just like I? I mean even the best of it but still faggots might even be like Cody no here with the broader to grow. I couldn't believe it is like I I could. I feel I direct Scott to who sees every camera phone around so he knew he was. Yeah he was like I gotta I gotTa play this off so I can only salvage this a little bit if he was just like panicking. Yeah it's a pretty big fella asking. Give me those questions boy. Wouldn't expect any pushback so again. It happens but if you ever have one a little lane. You're kidding you so you think that would ever happen to Natalie you kidding. But those family numbers numbers True Drake Post Malone and Jack Harlow but three best of all time because of the stream numbers holler constraints like that. I have no idea say listen. I didn't know Malone dear till he did you get like grammies and stuff that guys do a big deal in massive forklift fucker. Absolutely massive twelve grammies. Oh we got. Mba players taken pictures xers with older NBA players on opposing teams now. Kobe y Jerseys Kobe why I close personal friend. Wendell Garda great an ear to ear. Chris Paul Oh oh boy. He needed corresponding to be booming. Maybe this was some weird recruiting pets but this feels like Joe Mixon tweet to doc. Calm down So what would you do if I kicked U. S. two New Jersey. What would you were you know what do you do you hang up? Hang up towns like who. Who is the WHO Joe? Who Yeah? Who invited you please please remember? Somebody's things Cleveland remember. This magazine booed off the stage. Next time you ever talk about is he bigger or better than anybody. I said don't have some of the winners history gun on his resume streams last done by some of the losses drake on his resume. That's a fact time star. They're loud death. I like the way the winds have been good. mcmeel A thorough domination but the bad ones made enough. What push to know how he skated relatively on there for how big he is? How big like social social media is he skated? It was so while I was GonNa felt big in the moment meant but like at the more time passed the less people cared and again like I said from the jumped on one thing drake could do. Just say nothing and he almost did it. We don't know that doesn't he. said he said nothing on a beat but then he also went to the barber shop up until Lebron would he be disappointed in. Tell them what I told you. You said there was nothing jacket dudes to make you be disappointed in me that threat. Here's our ice cream now. It's it's been a sad little over that last summer. That all started last. May maybe a lead into summer feels like drake did technically I want him say he didn't say anything I'll wax. He's Kinda started all of that when he dropped that freestyle. Which one they've been? Poking each other for three British Stephen Poker for which free thousand for the free style for about that was the direct response or no. That was the one he did and then pushed he did the a stall Jaycees beat which was the most or listen. He stole his beat Pitcher. He's doing some house which Chris good cover by J though house. Isn't that forget. It will like someone upcoming mcstay. They beat on their push. Do like an interview or something something led to the deputy free style right except it was like one final Straw to like. He's very pretty bitch is that he he is I care of. I care what caused the APP. It feels it's also Ask backwards started with Wayne like fifteen years ago being gay. I invited bake like no. You didn't advantage. I wear it ought to this. Yeah we get us to some ten years later on the child. Because I'm trying to wooden the I remember and it was like Oh man trey got him. I can't believe you did that de Freestyles Fire and was it the next day like a very rare you very good. He replied to the tweet with men like everyone finished listening to that and then they're lack of response. Why you're here could my sound? That was quick to exodus. Twenty twenty twelve while ago and as I say. What are you kidding me join? Billboard produce finished reading Are you serious. Someone had a great tweet the other day where it was like sees is linked to interesting article clicks link link opens says. You only have like five remaining for this month. Exit side of that asks if you you can turn on your location exit side of that clicked seem more hassle. Scroll through slide show to get next pie at doesn't care remember. Remember what article was about anymore. Good Times yet. The Internet it's That reports started trickling into the listening part for push New Album Daytona. That's what it was may twenty four twenty eight the infrared. That's what it was contain. SHOT TO DRAPE ORLANDO Pinson Biz material may twenty fifth the next day. Drake drop deputy free style so some great great reaction time under. That's when push tweeted the Senate invoice for the extra twenty. That's the tweet RV. I was like there was something twitter. And then drake sent the invoice. That was the twenty six then on the twenty ninth was the story of added I with just the the the album artwork. So yeah just two days so he took a weekend off And he came back with the song and the the art arc was tough. Son The EH. It's rough As my son mother and father and it produced and best friend which two drinks credit. He's still not dead. Good looking worse and worse for push the teacher as rough man. I can't you believe people are like you can't do that so yeah you can't where we all hold on hold on. Aw they wait a minute you're supposed to No no no now listening saying his father was scum and his mother was a dirty whore. That was fun. It is Kinda mother-to-child instagram or not breaking the news of the sons of the world. It's it's on the level but but Not only that he he took money out of drag spago at that because there was that whole she posted like Adidas clothing line based around the announcement of the sun which is a wild thing to ever Fisher exists boy oil matt. Yes people will let one about issue because you had a kid well. Infant tracksuits grown on people will wear rather as patriots down bad. It's been a rough wet sixteen months. Yeah the Boeing. They weren't going to go under. J Prints Matt on he's gotTa saw so bad so oval so so so bad. I'm here I'd like to hear no no-go Mogo bad words will do damage. Nobody would like it. I haven't heard J. Prince say a single word word sense. You don't need to practice NJ Prentice for sure. I'm not tempting him by any stretch but he was the last thing I heard Coley mic. We go come see batch it. I'm like Oh yea solo show. I wouldn't blame you on the slightest but now it's a Dorchester D. It's it's just like Google that whole like the next like three weeks. He was everywhere. Defending Drake no put out a book in that time and once the okay great book by the way but once I was done was he gonNa keep bringing it up. Drake doesn't want any Komo Mum's the word Boy Can't believe he got booed. I was talking to a uh-huh As the other day because he was he had himself a tough tough Sunday. Rolling glad was in L. A.. Big Festival huge festival and Liz Evert was there and he he was dancing. Like you read about real row. Broke out the shuffle. Could've been there but he wasn't. He missed you. Talk about time blunder. Why did he miss it using the studio Oregon? Why what is I said? Listen unless that was the only time Max B had free to record over the phone. I I want to hear this song excuses from. Yeah they're Nice as never gonNA forget himself as I'll I'll pencil me and right right and actually it was someone who does not forgive. You not never ever hear those words. Come from my loose and Dan Joyce even bank ought not stone. You know. There's a bad record every I've yet to see a video of him whether it's like him walking up to a school bus full of Children Justin in his own home dancing all world. I was watching that. I haven't enjoyed grandma. Gave Him ten thousand dollars for his weady. He's the best guy in the world. Ah I don't understand it either like I I was very sad. The other dad woke up sad. I just went the items and just start. Our Apple. Music just started watching all of his music videos which is not a thing. I've done for anyone since I was like seventeen at and I was like yes as a these videos. Were all tremendous and be a what a guy he's very swirl it goes is taking you got here is this is. This is third day in town. It started getting Franson always. He's putting kids through college tip of the Bay for US News. Traffic would also have you listened. Xp Guy You know he put out quite the album. I don't know how he did it. 'cause he's been incarcerated and for some time. Many years feels like this album like when he was rarely cooking. Stuck in one of the more enjoyable parts of his projects was that you could tell it was recorded mixed and mastered stood all in a bathroom like a shower was the studio and you could hear like the old Like apple I like MAC book volume up and down for the Bait. It's like you shouldn't fresh clean. That up yeah. They weren't and that was part like part of the job. You're in the in there with them. And this album Mixed mastered and produced any better than any album. I've ever heard miss the whole thing. There's that and I just don't know where he he's still incarcerated. How did that happen? He still incarcerated my joy tune song. uh-huh give now all right. I won't stink this game. I don't know what happened. I watched the first drive. This feels competitive. It isn't very far. It's thirty four goose now. I don't know why they're still playing. Breeze got the record congrats. They stopped the game when he got the record. I don't I saw him land pointing and waving crying. But I don imagined edged the ORLANDS I get mad. They were just family Zak. Yeah I now Brady Brady. Could've broke it yesterday. They WanNa Breathe Savvas moment what. It seems like as long as a team of on the sidelines here boy. That's rough bro Video. I don't know how a person like that even makes a pass like the interview. One said get the interview to to get that job. A Map Patricia made it. Further than it Charlie Weis wasn't he's he's led. Do They Li. Do they lead at all yesterday now Sheridan so they've Latin and all but one game this year friend. I'll happy now and they're terrible guys. The bag hope so you worked for the Patriots easily gain. You walked in the front door. This guys like this guy couldn't had at nothing though like didn't prep at all for if when you get caught. And if they did he did not remember the training. Let's he's the he's the pawn is the is the lowest rung. Of course they wouldn't put why why bother. I would like a stronger wrong at the bottom. I don't disagree but which what you got is what you because if the bengals get you slipping bore for not only. Did they catch him. Slippin the bangles security. Maybe the best security in the League is Azazel. News putting the pressure on they would know like picture everyone worked for the Bengals to be like cletus the Slack Job Yoga and these guys they were like they like the Miami hurricanes they were they were running up the scar they're dancing. They could taunting they couldn't believe that they got this. He tried to pull. Here's what it where. He messed up normal white Liam probably gets added it unless this is upper normal white man asking him questions that's where he's like. I didn't know I could do as normally as as whole why guys was like now now now now listen I use that on the oldest food one on me. That's where he felt for that. I think the whole thing too is like I can delete it no enhanced Aston. Now it's like just don't even bring that part up if you if you didn't know just feel like either now. This isn't a big deal I I didn't. I truly didn't know. Oh isn't that we get you got to get with you guys. I Candy Candy it. That was the craziest part I I didn't know but now that I do. Let's delete that real quick but there's a new a new conspiracy of Bruin. The Ravens of apparently installed this like three three sixty camera in their stadium. And you can see fucking everything at all times. I would hope the three sixty I know. But I don't know why Bo a more teams have thought about this at bay while like what the fuck pick the one that like the best. Win Percentage Derelict. Laugh as like four or five. ABC's something they showed one of those stats day at home or General I think in it was it was a very specific. Cutoff cut off like since since week. Eight Twenty fifteen ray-ban Kenneth like the highest win one of those guys. It's a good more teams should cheat. I agree that's my whole point going back to the first time this shit happened. The MIATA title one yard just can't do it. I you cheers this. This guy fucking stinks. Whoever this guy is at apparently from what I'm told to so like every team has advanced scouting a power? This this guy. isn't even bat but from whatever your record You're supposed to have like a like a hood like a screen showing what you're recording. So everyone in the room could see what he was doing. So what are you what. What would be better to this problem? And he's like but we're on the level of you guys can see clearly cheating. It was like taking. I can attest I stand up in the middle of the tests to see everybody's pacing. The team just looks at me a problem Mrs Smith yes hold on to be over thirty two. You can't do that the what this this. What you're doing now with D. C. D. Cheating on I remember I Best Basketball player for midterms was sitting for Spanish midterm and was just no one cared they. All athletes are school treated Athletic School like that game. I is also regular school and he cheated like scantron off the kids next on the whole time and afterwards the kid who was like you had Spanish right you like yeah. It's like you know. I took a Frenchman. d'arme right. It's like it doesn't the same grade regardless now. Who Cares not my problem? That always killed me on the board goofing saints that Saints Fans distraught. They didn't get the shout graph. RAFF feel bad saying to play in the first round. Let's go world was I don't know yes. seahawks gotta be packers now. That's right running game some. I have no idea if they're like I don't know if they're good. But there are like fourteen in what you have. A packers are number two saints three. Yeah because right now the forty niners are a five c they will go to Dallas and I don't know if they win that game honestly right now the Green Bay play nuance what. They're tiebreaker. Inc It'd be two weeks ago. No they didn't play do they. Pulling winning percentage will cause Arab out to both be eleven in three. That's where I don't know what the IRS not be. They just showed the seedings through a new ones would be three BEGAT ON A. I don't know what the weather their New Orleans has a division loss. Maybe Pittsburgh Division record goes to true but yeah Green Bay. Green Bay Green Bay is going to be in the Super Bowl up like twenty one. I'm going to be I don't see it just not sure. Rams are out. Yes that was tough yesterday. Quite the teams are pretty much doc on one side Dallas dozen dozen clinched. Obviously there mayor. Whoever wins that game this year? Because there's this week number seventeen right right. Yeah Greg Brazier. It's only four twenty-five that can't be as an flexed next the reflexive forward. But yeah you're right. Let's make game. What the Hell is the national another another so forth? twenty-five rams forty nine now. Yeah get that Outta here. The percentage lassos senior. The prego more wins the death. Of course they're both those. There's a five hundred battle like we're not even guaranteed read. That one of those teams will have the same record as the rams after that game. Assuming the rams losing eight seven 'cause I could easily see that game ending in a tie. Eagles cowboys yeah could come down but I just let them. It's for the division. Just no actually excuse me. This is the first week of Saturday games so that Saturday. Four rams very niners wrandell rams forty nine hours of Saturday night so Sunday night. Also bad chiefs bears. How is the second house? A second wildcard not figured out yet. NFC WHO's Vikings Rams right So yeah so the rams could still be in. Yeah if Vikings lose out rams went out gotcha roads the tiebreaker there but yet vikings win one more happen. It would be the rams if they're still in it. You know what I mean wouldn't otherwise because otherwise I beat him in the head. I don't know but it's like what's already has time wins. The Max Rams can get his ten ten wins. But if Minnesota hasn't clinched that means in a tiebreaker scenario. It would go to the rams now with a I don't know because again two games a bar right now. Well Minnesota's two games are Green Bay in Chicago so they would go to two and four their division if they lost out they win one one. That's it yet. The Rams cannot win eleven game now now they shirked not or even if the Vikings even tech they cannot lose. Yeah I don't think they'd be ten five and one at worst so they've got Green Bay. Who is playing for seating and they've got Chicago who's playing for nothing in the rams? Have we just set one of them. San Francisco in Arizona so not not the easiest their mandate it's Eh. Vikings is win Vikings win rams need help everybody else's set except for the NFC's Dallas Dallas Has Philadelphia and Washington. So I'm guessing. Philadelphia Philadelphia Has Dallas and the giant giant paint. Yep Boy Hope Dallas went. I think I can say data's winning a playoff game. I don't know if I could see the same exact record. But I eagles start have receivers not nobody receives now. Nine nineteen issued. Nobody has receivers than ever. Nobody is. It feels like all the bad teams have really good receivers and all that good teams like unlike Baltimore throws tight ends the Patriots Their defense has scores all their points. Kansas City has good receivers. Houston has good receivers Buffalo Buffalo. I don't even know if they throw the ball forward they do they just they split it three guys I think with either seven hundred eight hundred dollars a piece and none of six feet tall because it's one of the that's right Pittsburgh battling for a playoff spot Tennessee. Also still battling. They both decided to lose this week. That was bold of them. The hurt the steelers because they've got that tiebreaker right Seattle. They're they're down another receiver. The by over five thousand dollars nobody up to see the big check thing like we look at the super bowl champions without running backs and many of them have like an elite like fifteen hundred yard receiver. Not a lot of. Yeah so yeah but part of that is in the Patriots over this last decade winning three. And it's like they've the best pass catching tight end of all time that not. I mean I get that but I mean any one. He wouldn't in that form lashing they still want to that still other years where they didn't master the teams they get there to play them teams and make the final four like Fisher. Drowsy like Miami might have the best receiver in the League. I think Jewish ghetto the best player in the League. You take he has. He has the most fun playing football out of anyone in the league right now and he just yeah dominate. Your every. which way Stephen Chase at? I was crazy for putting my top team. It was a mad man. He also had like Eagles chargers done are at Eagles. steelers technically alive still. That'll be the day. If it's Eagles steelers I don't think I'll watch duck hajjis versus cars wiens Guitar Who's there who's backed up now? I don't even know quit. Detmer Josh Josh. mccown mccown just leads them to three straight wins. Four Straight Win San Francisco at Philadelphia would be disgusting. It would. That's San Francisco. I think I think Dallas could beat San Francisco. I don't think it would be easy. Go still really good but they were. What like Matt Into Eleven Laboratory? Yeah they've lost to the last year three or four. After the less yet one was the Baltimore they wanted to close a New Orleans and lawsuit Atlanta. That's a bad loss it now. That's the difference that because their last two are home against the rams who were planning for their life and at Seattle who square. But the ones right so you basically you fumbled. What advantage a yesterday? Lose to the vans right. There should be a twelve to do one seed right now like they should be trying to seal up the one seed this week. Yeah where might live. We can get everybody two weeks week's arrest on the road at Dallas. Maybe like an eight eight nate cowboys team inside the delman over four or five. He just getting rid rid of the ball. Quick if Dallas Beats Philly a therein because they already beat him once if she right crop crop see. I think they're still in the driver's seat but I do think it is pretty much whoever wins this game. Yeah that's what they have the same record right now so if they fairly. There's nothing they can do. So That's interesting if they lose that Garrett's fire if they win gig engine losing. I'm wondering if they now 'cause phillies belly's not gonNA lose the giants. Although that'd be very he lied just went layer we week. Seventeen is not going to the assumes bold that'd be truly incredible jazz scored like forty points. Yesterday they might thirty-six Baltimore's Montanaro tend to row. Jesus Christ no one else is a winning streak larger than four Stephen Shea Opole Klay who went in the AFC Baltimore field. In the last I saw was fifty to forty eight Baltimore. That's fair. I close the thought that I feel like I mean they they have the MVP and home field field advantage. I don't think that's like crazy. Maybe breezed through five hundred. Four hundred You've been trying to get breeze this. MVP LILLARD traded out of Portland Breeze for it breaches show of employees like not from me the cowboy lunch meat trying to say because it would be New England buffalo for the third time No It'd be New England and Kansas City Baltimore Buffalo Assuming Buffalo Beats you which is what I am assuming right now I don't know would be it would be in Houston so as switch to prove it like on the road playoff game. I play our upstart like I just needs to prove he doesn't fuck it up. He has on a big scale. He hasn't proven that yet. Either so certain for certain I was. I feel like between gene beaten Dallas at Dallas and then beating that Pittsburgh defensive today obviously it wasn't all ham he didn't like set the world on fire but he didn't fuck it up either. Like dodges fucked it up stinks but that was my biggest like they lost a Baltimore by seven. That's not I'm not going to be like. I killed him in that game. I mean that's the thing like they beat New England. They it just be like a Red Hot Tennessee team end. It'll be at home like it's and I was like J.. J. Watt might or might not be over something like the deer antler sprays back as so there would just me like understanding how good the the Bills Defense in coaching. On the days. I would just bit undershot at home over Allen on the row which I think is fair more than fair get in. We just never see like the. It's never the top four and that's second weekend ever preceding for the NFL. And I don't. I don't anticipate Pittsburgh at Tennessee beating eating Kansas City. That would certainly throw a wrench into things. Agassi Tennessee doing honest with. I couldn't see Pittsburgh and they do research now but I mean received from Jump Lake Mary the first time. Maybe I didn't even get a by maybe. By what the Hell we put the name of the head now the Ravens and play on the play at Houston first game. That doesn't seem fair great thirteenth. I I guess Patriots by the AFC Championship. No no no Yuk right now. It's just I wouldn't hate that though if Tennessee was somehow able to upset Kansas the city. Yeah I could see that and we'd have to if we played either Houston or buffalo in New England Buffalo for the third time or Houston for the second time in New England. I'm all in on that. I just hope keeping keeping the bengals. That'd be great if we could play them for more times than they gave us a trophy. I'm signed me up if own. Yeah a little ad complained about that. You're near peep out of me. I I'd be like listening mixon's Hell I can't believe we stop that guy not once not twice not. The Rice degrees competed ninety. Seven percent of his passes is getting uh-huh okay so that even count. That's how I feel about borough like birtles. Complete like seventy eight percent is passes. They didn't even like what what. Maybe he's that good. No No eh you unaccepted. DM Bucks laws. One bit the Mavericks Bold that game out one zero four Fox loss. 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We hear that every two years every two years the draft is just Fi- it's Kentucky Duke like basically when the blue blood teams are bad. It's historically bad dry and that's pretty much what it is because again like this warriors the top four. I'm not saying like there's Lucre Zion. That's why the straps is historically bay. Maybe Anthony Edwards fucking incredible. Why has been has been the time he spent the wiseman hands too right so again I would like people say announcers you can't You know the you know the hit rate of those picks outside the lottery like absolutely can't do anything. Leonard decided to cohere Rudy. Gobert looks on Paschal. Siaka some reason in the crowd during my green as inbounding the the ball but yet it was me. I don't know what you can do with the non lottery pick just started we bad draft. Roll the dice. DEVANTE GRANDMA has forty. That's right fortieth the point of the evening but like I was saying there's just no are there is there ever historically bad. Draft are historically bad drafters. That's part of it. The worst recent draft was twenty. Thirteen the Anthony Draft he was bad. But it's not his fault all he win number one so as draft goes on. It's really not like one. The honest is bringing up the floor by live self. They seem it. It's just the honest draft that alone. Pretty good yeah like mccollum Odu uh-huh depot. Hopefully he comes back. If he doesn't like at this point like he was a head does go go. Go go to so it was like okay. That's the two-time defense play. The was at twenty seven. We're consistently seeing every single year the rookie hitting the twenties issue like Brandon Quark title. Whoever it is so it's like the year before that was the that was the dodgers trae young de might be? That's GONNA be historical dryer right store with good. I jumped the gun dodger tire. We don't know what's going to happen there. Take leg for my diagnosis. CIA productive McMahon. I don't think he wants to rookie of the year today. I will say at this point. Is I on. Prognosis is looking pretty. Good is that why you staying out. Yeah he's like he's doing me a solemn whatever it is I mean also like the twenty third twenty thirteen by Anthony Bennett of course all at depot really good Otto Porter it has been very solid good in sometimes really good but mostly solid cody. Zeller as even some generational senator. No He's been solid Nambia. Alex slide mostly bad nerlens. I don't even know how I was playing like Alex. Linda's looked better in Atlanta Nurlan. When he plays clings still does numbers? Ben mclemore as he's been pretty good for Heusen listen this year. The rest of his career has been abomination. Could save is called wealth. Poke the Lynch pin to the Lakers. Success come in BP Trey Burke. He's the league. CJ mccollum really good up thirteen rookie of the year. Michael Carter Williams Stephen Adams really good Kelly. Galileo lennick very much has a role in this league. Pick after Kim wouldn't Jaanus at define number whatever picky was well no the pick after Shabazz. Muhammad that's what I meant that the good ones him the MVP Shabazz Muhammad. Then yeah there we go. Bum Schroeder went seventeen. I mean I share locking when eighteen. I'm surprised he's not league. But Shannon Larkin was solid the league not great eighteen but solid. Tony Snell Gordon. Chang Solomon Hill until Jay attempt. TJ Tim Hardaway Junior. Both collect checks wealthy adroit. Robertson was great until at mysteriously died. The why worry about vaguely. Gobert twenty-seven let's Seattle grab went thirty one like I think the way the game has changed. I think majority I won't say a good bit of teams are too smart for there to just be like complete like the two thousand dry. That's won't Kenyon Martin was number one. That's a look like that. Is I like that drafted three all-stars total it'll McClure kenyan-born Michael Rear most will win shares from the draft was. He'll Turkoglu and I was one. Yeah that was twenty years ago for like we. The teams are too smart like the ones that hit hit it immediately and they're dragging been to win four so nobody's nobody's ever going to get this right now. Like historically bad I got this. I just don't see that it's historically bad deal. It's like oh boy. Lamelo had four triple doubles in his first six games. While James Wiseman has sixty rebounds in his first four war get well. I mean. I don't even think we have to look towards next Africa's laughs draft outside the top three. There's nothing to the top three stained once text the other one that maybe obese never play. We don't know yet stakes. Thanks but it's like Kobe Mostly good Roy has been really okay. Good cameras cool crazy cool cam. Johnson's been a pleasure. He's done what he's supposed to do the J. Washington's been good Takahiro has been really good shocking fourteen. Wow the Kellogg's Walker plays a lot. I don't know like I I like him. I like what he brings to the table. I definitely like his confidence. It's lot I don't know that he's been good yet number. He is getting those on my Romeo Lane for Matt Lord. Now he's constantly hurt. You talk about putting a pig but release. It's good at least he doesn't have the Marcus smart's like disease that is never getting better in it. Only only spreads does sound good. It's it's great Matisse and Clock Back toback twenty twenty one and Gra Ah Grandma twenty two. I have a Matisse trade now grant the Celtics record when grant plays more than seven minutes. Let's is. I think it's thirteen and three. I don't know why we just don't play them eight. Why don't we build a plane? A Grant Williams plan seven minutes in twenty five minutes in from the field. That's I've I don't need them to shoot now. You don't know him a quarter in business twenty five one Seventy seven steel and anyone else. After this flaming any sort of impact Gavin about aright in Chicago. Pascal's been good. That's that's what I'm saying like if this continues like this it's okay. It's a fine Kevin Party junior junior. It's like it's not historically bad. I don't know maybe elite Guy Maybe we haven't seen enough of wiseman nobody's seen enough of Lamelo. Nobody say no from Anthony where somebody's watching for Georgia game. So I don't know many people pointed at the people if you say it'd week draft. You had that decided before like the college it's basketball season starting out to week drought. We don't know anything. We just job league in assists in ducking on every week draft outside design he can't even shoot should RJB's Yuck imagined I like Lamelo has been doing his start things and I know it's not the Spanish league as so no one's GonNa count it but for what he's been doing in that league it's been historic like Lamelo. Bank has been good his whole life now doesn't have some weird shadow odd on top of them stoically Badger for with as bad as the warriors are. It's going to be like if they were three bad. And that might flip to the night. Pick with if it's if they're one bed ed which they are right now it's not fallen below four. That's why for the sake of this particular trade. It doesn't matter. I'm comfortable I'd say any. If you're somewhat confidant year scouting you should be chomping at the bit. Where the top four pick right? That's yeah that's why I'm here because again it's after uh after three really it was like okay. If you like. You're just like the Andrea. Maybe like lottery late lottery hawks before we take him before you he likes guy you take him so really afternoon again. Data's been coming to his credit. So if that draft is like this one that's like maybe it's okay for it's whoever you love if it's RJ Hampton if it's called Anthony it's Halliburton Burton. If it's Nico Manian efforts tarries Mac let whoever it is so yeah we we WANNA thirteen. We didn't think he'd be there. We destroyed it up. I'm going to have such a hard time convincing myself as someone named Halliburton is going to be nasty in the NBA. Fire Name. I think of like war crimes when I think of Palestinian fired have been grounded Eh. war-crimes would be incredible nickname to. That's what I'm saying so you're only talking Halliburton more. Yeah Yeah. I didn't have side of time. I thought saw myself on on his stat. Weaknesses are free throws attempted attempt rate in free throw percentage eastern seventy three percent from free. Throw so You're sure that's negative nuts. Two point two times that's valid but his stress are literally everything else. Assist Percentage Faouzi Ziegfield Goldfield go off into the redoubt cyst turnover. Six steals true shooting rebounds back PLUS MINUS OFFERS OF BUFFALO MINUS and there's seven more things of pluses losses. I'm looking at him so he shouldn't six threes a game thirty nine percent. I think he's GonNa be good then gets into Latin as I'm sure that falter. Nineteen something some a like May to be like names Haliburton Seven right now to would they basically tolls well. I did a mock draft so the Bulls. That's Kinda yeah. That's what they need because he is. Yeah he's a guard that doesn't prefer score. They need a guard who likes to set people up. Kevin Love. Thank Evan Little pissed because his to Lee is two point. Guards awards average six assists in by. I don't know I'm looking at this just like top ten of names. Like eight of these name seemed good. I don't know why Halliburton's also for like the player of the year step. It was Halliburton and tyler era for Wisconsin. In hair one one most stayed in Alberta was like. I'm just getting out of here. I've had enough the draft overrated underrated every single year for patties. Let me ask you this clip. Seen a lot of pushback on the side of older prospects like Matisse and Divide Day Jay Brandon Clark And it's like what like what Where does obvious these guys are going to low? But at what point are you I don't even know L. Like who the players bit in terms of bidding by taking the older Gansu younger. Because it's like there there are plenty of examples of potential paying off plenty plenty of where it doesn't work at all like Markey's Chris Light someone like this but it's like where because not one obviously like as I was the best player in the draft. He he had the most potential draft on top of that. All right. Yeah this is number one pick dot but it's like six seven like Whoa. We're not the hawks. Last year decided four because the under Andrews like three years older than I think the three guys that went ahead of him as weak draft. Historically Louis everyone knows it. The five guys after freshman until Rui Nicole over at the freshman see I think last year you saw it still still the hawks. But you saw it the other way when they took reddish over Cam Johnson and see like they're fighting the playoff spot. Right now you see who's been more helpful to that right now but it's like even within the Hawks under I guess I understand lessons. They took Hunter Onda. So that'd be counterintuitive to about to say but it's like they are trying to compete this very second so it makes more sense for them to try and and get someone who aligns with Trae but the thing hundred twenty two him land jury for share is twenty he laird audience. They're allowing DRI for share. Where again that's where boy he's a little older Nebraska Court won't we'll get to grow old with John Moran? Wow that's think probably won't like he probably won't be there and fight in five years. I imagine he get straighted. Willie I don't know like just like Cassava fifteen so. I don't know that's where I think it's triple J Jeff but even if he does stay. That's let's listen. You need to add Tonio Ziebel's to definitely know for sure. I'm not saying it's the right move I'm just saying I know one stays together and it's the NBA. Everyone signs two year deals at He's GONNA ask politely to go play with Roy in Washington now they would never the two foreigners they would never do it but yeah where as always it depends on the prospect as I look through the past couple of drafts Bam I am the tick after Bam was Justin Jackson and they alerted. Justin Jackson was okay older. Step right in right now It's also it's it. Oh really yeah. Now he's still Dallas is it's the prospect dramas and was a junior. When when he got picked a pick up? Game was Michael Porter. We still don't know with the next two three guys after my freshman like I. Oh Hey take an older Clippers was that the right over here Troy Brown or Zaire Smith. The Gaza went right after him right. Gazelle like those guys size always gets disproportionately proportionately valued for sure. It's just certain. Lake is a drought youth size. I feel like that might change. Thank before he was always it feels a tad over small for like that probably changes now by UGO smaller big. If it's a dad now is it always. I guess it isn't always always one or the other but at some point to if you're one of these teams causally dragging in the top ten. It feels like you like if you hit a single every single year you get a Cam Johnson every single year. You're not going to be a good team so you have to swing for potential. Sometimes I was going to work now. The thing is when you're one of those if you're Orlando you have to keep swinging single because like a complete with like the sun having to lottery. Can we would Chris and bender devastating for sure. Taken to cracks and with Benadryl devastate so like sometimes hit enough singles. Let that you make that tree for a triple or whatever. So that's yes I gotta take the single the sheer bet the low definitely. I'm not saying you have to swing for the fences every single time but I do think it's like certain years trying to see was at twenty fifteen draft the town now I was looking Booker went thirteen and I was trying to. Someone older went the campaign. He was a year or maybe two age wise and class wise but to age one. Uh Yeah because I know he was the next pick campaign stinks a jerry. Grant can't wet nineteen that's not even close the same like tyrian rickshaw Tear was twenty year old. Sophomore Rashaad was eighteen year old freshman. One of those guys can play. One of them can't write a age. Be Damned by use gas younger. Okay Yeah but right now. The twenty one year olds is in his pockets for the next three years. That'll probably be the case by the time you're ready to contribute sounded pay you a lot of money. So Oh maybe I do dislike Cam Johnson. They can attribute annuities GonNa do and I was GonNa do it right now. Jerry and granted deal on right went back to back. That doesn't help them. Trying to say at all like the Hornets took Frank Kaminsky domestic nine over like myles turner like. That's the team and committee has been really Phoenix this year. He's been a solid pro. He's he's done what he everyone thought he was going to do in the League but Charlotte's team that I feel like consistently only leaves the draft with a single and they've been stuck forever. I don't even know if that's true. But they may be in better shape than they are now they kept leaving was single. I'm just like running through my head right. Now they Mk G KEMBA IS MAC. Miles Bridge is that we just flat Zeller. Frank I'm saying somebody's somebody's any single who I'm looking right now because I want to fool had shay and traded him not a single. Oh yeah that's bad malea mark. Maybe not a single the year before me Mallika Richard Excuse me trade. I'm not sure for what Frank. Ah I don't think frank was a single for what they got from him because what he's doing now for the sons he honed his skill in Charlotte's thanks a lot say that on hammers ars on Charlotte could be some both like he was for your play. They drafted him. Ideally hoping they get some of that immediately didn't didn't work out like Was the before him Navan line. I'm trying to see the they. They drought translated. They traded him for. They drafted him But I know that it was a a draft night trade. I want see. They ended up with how about a year before he got traded to Portland so he was there. Yeah shot for a year. Yeah I remember that at all well played twenty five games. Okay so not a single now trade so again like some of the they would lot atwood's lingual. I would argue. That was where they were trying to swing. Didn't work no. No that was bad swing. So that's again like some of the stables a really singles and some of them Orlando Orlando had it more than singles and then traded. Good bit of win you a couple of singles and now you get like three guys play your forgot to play two positions but it's better than the horn is not Indianapolis hitting singles. These guys may not fit. We got some Charlotte would love to Detroit would love. It's angles Phoenix with Detroit's that's the difference to me. Detroit feels like a team that that just strikes out on on one pitch somehow yeah. They're hopeless I agree yeah. I don't feel like Charlotte's done that that their players are like get second deal. Stay in the League the as I'm saying that feels like a single to me like if you're getting a guy who sticks around the league if he doesn't do it for you then I don't see how who cares. That's where I feel like it falls on Charlotte because they stink. Yeah they they hit more than singles. Yeah maybe they'd have more. Maybe you could build more around Kimball taking much below market value deal more singles. But you didn't overpay that's the thing when you don't hit singles and you pay one hundred and thirty million for right a strikeout today. Yeah that certainly didn't help issues so I'm looking like Detroit. See cool this year much too early. Last year. They treated the first round pick abby for Blake. That's not that. Yeah that was that turned out to be a Look honored is good. The year before that Henry Allinson not a single Stanley Jostle not a single now twenty fourteenth so expensive Dinwiddie a single for them. He's killing now but not for the Pistons. Is it all so I wouldn't say that. The single for their second round pick. Yeah and what they trade him. I think like either way. He's he's not doing his best work for them. So I don't know for sure you're scouting team now for your Team he played two years. The yeah was traded to the Bulls for Cameron Bear Sto for not good not a single now fisher not before that you have a top aide. Colwell poke now before the drum. A win you before the Brandon Knight for what they got an intriguing head for two years traded traded a single monroe was fine. Put the thing even when you even when you try to get singles. You don't think that's how I drafted that's how they make it luck. Clearly our cause issues store Baddiel. Who's been the best at this? Just drafting it's one of those. I don't even know how you could show because I've seen some. It's like the spurs like draft class had the most wind shares. It's like it's so much heavily weighted about three. We'll get credit for those three gas for sure but I don't think that I don't know if that means you consistently the best draft over a period you on three guys within five years encourage you to glory saint like Philly. Yeah I was GONNA say Philly Guy Embiid and Simmons they also got Okeafor so it's like an l. and Nerlens liens which. NBA teams are the best draft. Please don't so maybe even someone like Denver comes to mind. They Moody Seventh and a draft where justice says milestone are Devon Booker all came off the board shortly thereafter See this average average picks it average pixel is number. One is the spurs by comfortable margin. How talkback is a scowling? This goes since two thousand. Okay the heat second. Look into third dwayne Wade yet by gets telecom There haven't won a thing but they had Chris run right in the Davis drafted both of them so disliked. The Knicks are fourth. That's PORZINGAS. They drafted him. He entered that. It's like if you draft one. Good guy that's where I'm trenice. He didn't even play long enough for that to even rack up. Smooth one hundred games like I'm trying to think Orlando should be in this. And if they had dwight I'm I'm looking at their ninth thunder attempt rough. Yeah I'm throwing this excuse. Me Magic Eighth Williston everything hardened and did none of that counts durant. Three fine was run at three of the finals around and he wanted to repeat their. I listen to the Russ's numbers probably dragged those down. Maybe users If somebody put together they weren't looking at efficiency Phar- pat like the worst flipside which is rough for the study Cleveland Cavaliers which I don't have that worse which I guess it goes to show how bad they were. You drafted the best player generation. Still deadly you win that much. Is They also drafted Anthony. Bennett Dion Waiters Enters Thompson and Andrew wiggins and listen if the thunder don't get credit for harden they cavs do not deserve credit for wiggins. It's the rule news. I don't understand the rules like the teams that are like the bucks done. A good job took you on us. This jerk like they took the guys. They didn't draft Middleton but they pretty pretty much developed him right in draft. Let's go or Lopez but gas come there at their best. They drafted by the starling. Brown's Dante Dj Wilson Guys. I like in the minutes. They've gotten so they've been again. Also on fifteen nobody will have to league. had their chance changed. Only you do for show. But that's that's where our that twenty thirteen. Yes the draft you. That's a swing for the fences. Yeah workout at. I'm trying to see like Snell would have spend the older. He went five picks after that would have been the older steady quote unquote steady pick registered. I think Siachen did three three. Luckily when you draft him Here's a safe and he just keeps getting better like that's why it really is the Prophet coeds. I okay. Can't shoot it all we can turn into. Some sort of defender was the best player in the bucks. The bucks took Janas and then they tried again pick. You and I both liked the time just because there was a swing with Thon maker see. That's what I remember. I liked it at the time. That's when now with my new direction. That's swing. I don't think I would take now. I'm still pro swing at this must wait. It's GONNA look different than bigger. What was that? That was twenty seventeen. Sixteen or seventeen one. It's like I'll be interested to see if you take out the time. I did this if you took out their best. Pick in their take their Janas but also take out there. Jabari Parker Those averages Jabari is a tough one too because that but when you take a consensus pick like that and it doesn't work out. Is the team like who is that. Anyone is that just unfortunate not at I agree. I guess that's part of it because one talent wise anybody. Anybody would've taken into like he wanted to be there that the net close to Chicago right. They did Janas wasn't Yada Shit. It was like a guy wants wants to be there. They save their five-year for him. If I'm not mistaken instead of Jaanus is a year earlier than bell sounds right so that it's not but you still been Mr hitching saying he played with like a hundred and fifty games. Where you if that so? That's part of it's like okay. I know this guy wants to be era from close to the area but this embiid gas. I'm telling you long-term ease the right move on what Savona bonus went the next pick so the twenty fifteen sixteen sixteen against the bonus their first year. When you go somewhere turnkey turnkey into a spot up three shooter Bat Russell? Westbrook legit do. The things are actually good pace. It's like the Pacers have gotta be Acer's traded coli listen for value Georgia every person they ever had. Dave drafted traded for draft night. I don't know what day the broader trade was but like there is some sort of like Ola depot. The guys they're getting apply GOCHA. We either brought you in draft wiser. We understand you don't want to be ruled just GonNa make our guy also was Earlier when you brought up Buddy on the mavs Justin Jackson I was thinking of Bryce Bryce Johnson Johnson went to the clippers. Yeah Yeah I was remembering. The wilbad have take Ben. Simmons if you want actually was at twenty thirteen not fast sixteen shit yet. 'cause that's one right there. I think Bryce Johnson with twenty five. I think thanks. Cow went twenty seven. No Scowl at Twenty eight twenty seven of course but yeah. That's the will on was price. Johnson played at least three years. Here's if not yeah. They played all four years. SCOU- played the one year and it was a thing like at the time I was like. Listen I get how crazy it looks dislike. You should take scale and scouse better pig. Bryce Johnson played twenty one total games. He's owners out of the League. Tabei to integrate it. It happens like that big. You're looking for if you're talking about Roy. That's those type of dice. I WANNA rock scouse. Look good I think his they need him. He's doing a little bit more than he should be doing with as far as that stretches in the league look perfectly fine. That's what I'm sex. So it's he had to get up like that and they destroyed swapped him Nana Swan again. Ladies May maybe maybe a work at you like Scou- show again Bryce Johnson. Maybe he shows up again hopefully does back in the League but writing at bike. That's the type of swing I can take the number. The Guy who was number one over Ben Simmons at twins but it didn't work out up for six college. I'll take him over the GATT estate for years. This whole this whole draft is a wild. The twice sixteen draft is a wild case. Study for for exactly what we're talking about. This all take a swing or try and stay safe because you go every single pick and it works thanks for taking a swing. It doesn't work taking a swing at works for planet safe doesn't work it off the planet safe as the draft. That's why nobody figured is that. Nobody is good at this in any support. Simmons wet one. That was very pretty much. Never debate. Ingram had some in the middle of the air. Simmons Wetland one the thing with the way ingram is look this year. I'm sorry to say like Simmons was easily the Whitney he's been thus far. There's no data got a Beretta but y'all part going toward ingram tremendous this year terrible team definitely but you also have to thank of like what would philly would even still be in Philly. Maybe not because of how maybe who knows. Maybe his career starts differently differently because he's in a different place. Lebron Yeah I've never that's exactly I feel like one. He has that because if if those two are swapped and Lebron leg. Lebron unbeaten down. Ben Simmons one because he's better made a good talent but he's just not beating download. Young Ingram goes with team. Were immediately really. It's okay we have a top dog. There's no doubt like he's also one that's not gonNa Shit on us at all operative giving be dead for right who brought. He does not a bus thrower so loud. It's clearly this guy's team I can shoot so there's no or a project to be able to shoot an entree to shoot the NEOM Abidi together again. He would've played some of the first year. Didn't we can't Philly. He doesn't play their guys. They first year. Hey He didn't if he had an injured it'd be glad to sit them whether they would have made one but I'm not gonNA say fairly missed that by not but boy. Oh boy they look if into different if Ingram's Day right and have twenty-five definitely precipitous threes. Ben Simmons still the only player from this draft to make all star Game Eagle made a lot of them uh sheriff's But Ingram two hours as a mess for the Lakers. 'cause he eventually led to Anthony Davis and he also wasn't bad for the Lakers. You set a weird time there. See that's I would say that. I feel single for the Lakers. Are they single. Would if what does walk he was he was the it was the centerpiece to a trade. That landed. I'm Anthony Davis. I can't Ima- like I can't call that less than ahead. And it was clearly a trade where they did not pay enough so why but they got him they did. But it's like if they clearly underpaid you the best piece of a terrible package okay dating get that number. Four if Popovich wet net stingy says one I was Lonzo was the Angelo. Could don't you say any of those guys are single for the Lakers. Now I don't think there's been a bit ahead like in the NBA yet is like while the Angela de Ngelo got them to cap space who passed the cafes with Lebron. Is that a single if you're trained for CAP space I'm not giving you that credit Right that was that was more if they just didn't sign Moscow for his next solo and understand had designed to create the CAP space. You could just also not sign 'em keep the cast like that's a plan to use but either way those who the consensus two guys go into that draft. They went one two. I'm not gonNA even like even if he didn't crush it for the Lakers. It's Kinda like Dubai going to kill them for taking him there. Either I would agree with it but I think it could be. I think it can be dead. It could still be like boy. That was not uh. Not a single. The Lakers. Lebron doesn't choose to sign there and he's just what he's doing in the Pelicans there now what would we be saying that. I don't think we would. We'd be they got a maximum. Yeah things are different. Perhaps yes but again. I don't. Does he take that leap for like. Does he have that because again. If it's not Lebron it would have been some they have signed somebody. So that's it's at no point with have been like you know Agus we you know we tried. Three Straight Summers didn't work. We're just going to deal with. Our young court has been there. Larry Larry Roads and show number. Three team swung out of their shoes. It's looking like a head. Jaylen Brown here is a bit So you can like debts. The that's the type of swings. Take his suit breath leading. He's Super Smart. He worked super hard. Does is not a play basketball yet. Has He been the best basketball situation. Now we take those. That's the type of home theoretic COMBI. He can't issue. I know in theory. He can't eighteen. He can't but we're betting that twenty two. It'll look better at twenty six hundred Kiva better his. I won't even say his was like can't like can't play basketball wasn't an athlete because he act cows like showing stuff stuff that people who are just athletes. Don't show his ability to pass the open court like just making an extra pass stuff like that and I know he was playing with Ivan Rab. who was at the time considered to be very highly touted prospect but it was just like certain bike Because markey's Chris went eight in this market. Chris has never shown any anything. Basketball Court. Played Dante Dante. Murray man was last picking Night maybe twenty nine th yes. I did not Blair House. Didn't know GLASCO. The Ball Kevin Porter which is while. I don't even know if that sentence means back posted a picture cat reporter gene. I think as Kevin Auditing posted a picture. When devante was a senior Kevin was the freshman and they just they just play they swapped jerseys? That's what it was like. He posted pictures side by side them on the bench and I was like well. Seattle's wild that's like they. I keep saying Jamie's age thrown around. He's he's like it's been like over a full year younger than Carson Wentz and like several months older than Joe Borrow some stupid like that it burrows Or is James Really Young. It's decide The they had cardio Braxton Miller J. Jt that was bruised freshman year long ago. That was. That's an old girl doesn't even make sense. He was on the quarterback for There was a story. Okay bad basically just tell them to shut the fuck up joe trying to say some shit we tell them to shut up. That's true they'd say shut up. Fourteen Gene Fourth Beck Bennett. A tremendous swing. How does the Celtics Future Look at those pictures? Swop break don't even show. Yeah because I would've killed myself three years ago or Jalen Brown next to Devon Booker. KBOI chance to suns take him for Jalen the free fall. He's in Milwaukee will yes night he goes there he just turned out here. He's Josh Jackson before the difference that a different it'd be he goes. Hey listen. It's The sun's not him Josh. Turn out some of his arm on. I can't put it all on him though with the with the sudden that did you just say about like what we're talking about in theory. Obviously we know what happened. In retrospect in theory do you hate what the sons tried here. Yes who do. Let's see the next three. Picks were Christiaan. Now I will. I mean one of them clearly. You know I wouldn't take Jamali Mawla. Of course and listen would have been a better picton bender without question soda healed. Yeah 'cause honestly my as I look at it I feel like I'm like can I come away with Murray and that's what I would have tried to do terrifying because again I don't like again some swings I can justify taking understand it booker. Murray healed defensively understand. That's not stopping a the widow of running nose. I get it but that kind of space. That's the kind of swings I would try to take as I look now. A winner took bender after Kris. Poile now I like Don but no anybody else I think for the most part wasn't going that ah but I I would have had Jurmala for. They probably still take buddy. It's seven issues me a WHO I take. I mean they go out. What happens if if body doesn't go to the PELICANS game boogie goes wherever he goes? A river buddy ends up where everybody uh-huh but it's like if he goes to Denver. Does Denver even want buggy. Maybe not probably if he goes five to Minnesota gues- ah the timber. Wolves get bogey. Probably not that's not where they were at that point in time. In a one hundred percent hindsight on take Murray and try to trade. The second pick stood taking to Craig's but no I would have taken Maria for a really don't it depends on how that changes well. They have what they had they had. They came into that draft with four and thirteen. Yeah it was like a thirteen who's papagiannis scowl was part of that deal at the only like it was a lot of pick. It was a mess. It's real mess. I could could see like some of these are I think I'm just starting to see like the tire of rules. A wooden would not take a look at like Torian prints. Yes this would take Papagiannis. No Denzel Valentine yes any form blazers on what form ball really Eight Baldwin I watched not a DIS dis. I would roll Henry Ellinson no me Beasley. Yes lavar yes. His was only just health Richardson. I'm trying like bryce Johnson Scou- register nice and the term at that. You might remember that wrong. Yeah yeah he was fine. That's all my him going twenty two that I think he was like the one and done. I don't love Syracuse players but yeah like scanning this twenty when he region I would have been all over Scou- before Siaka which would have been wrong but before I can Korkmaz so like this is another part of it too. I remember going into the strategy. It was known the Celtics are only using at most one of their picks they had just because of where the roster that at that time they physically couldn't keep any of them and and when I look at this we did we we. We didn't bring your shot over until the next year played for fucking Dadis over in China. Where's he at now? These back there might be might be one of the early exile as in China again but still took him because that was the we took to draft in stash guys. Just because we we simply couldn't go over our roster limit here and no one wanted to treat for these picks but you look at it at age was looking at them but it's like whereas others right now. Am Siaka the one-seat everyone's terrified of them yet. Or is just another piece where he feels comfortable dealing Jalen like how Toronto octo- comfortable dealing pertile Twenty nine I was like why would they take. Dijon Maria will take a Malcolm Brogdon. Brian I would've taken To Miss There but I was number Ogden you were in on euless. That doesn't sound right and I know it's hard to believe looking back even. Yeah I don't even I'm not even a fall. Although Brogdon it feels like a spurs asked player. That's why that was exactly what I was like a four-year guy. But does everything would dimiss there but again it worked out but if they had broken the their future looks different. That's and that's a good freshman verse senior right there to correct. And that's why I I mean we'll we'll see how things that longtime but so far brandon's been the better player but long so they just like already developed. We just learned to the rest later. It's healthier because he had one injury. ABC Donator are. Who are the undrafted from this year? Caruso like like because 'cause I think that's what I can't say debra historically bad draft because one Picchu no matter where take in change your entire franchise. Yoke it was what forty one forty one and forty three it was like. It's historically whether that was historically banner store Gi Goodell. The change your entire franchise was yoga. Fifteen WANNA say yeah. He was the forty first. Pick in the twenty fourteen. dre The Wigan Stra so it's like okay. Yeah the I two picks were bust. The third guy wasn't going to hang his injury concerns. Exxon is just not I just I just. I don't know if it's GonNa work out for now's not looking great. Yeah Gordon smart have been good random shots and stuff like STOSKOPF Vaughn lay but yoke hitting yoga get forty one changed. Everything for all you need is the matter where you get and you can get as many cracks in the drought is as mini. You can allow yourself or acquire for yourself Morongo. Toronto had the right idea. Hi Dea at twenty. They take their Bruno. Yeah the demonstration to pay a now you see him now whose bodies finally filled out. I'm looking at thirty. Twenty any the next draft the twenty fifteen drab heroin thirty two. Does that change your entire franchise. No but that's one more piece that allows you Detroit for Chris. Paul Right move now but allows you to do. This is the fourteen draft. Joe Is the Brown was like man I love should imagine. Lebron James tweeted out man. I Really Really Love Nicola Jokic the heater like we don't know who that is. We're taking him the cab it's again last year. The Clippers had bet twelve and thirteen horrible picks in the lottery dim hitting on one of those allowed for the Paula. George Dri Cochet was good enough young enough cheap enough. It's okay this can be the headliner. Two of our Jane it still needed to trade up to eleven to get that guy and again imagine a Charlotte takes if Charlie took Shea. Leisure just put connects Shea. They have a lot of cap space. Bene- fall off but it's like dangerous completely different. So if you trust your if you're good scouting team there are no historically store bad dress for you right. You found value wherever whether it's like it twenty nine or thirty i. I would've loved to get Tony Parker or Jimmy Butler. That'd been great ended thirty or ended the first round pick we get Kevon looney instead a with a double double triple being. Looney was if we're doing based on where you are in the draft tick. Yeah so it's like you can't those those can't albeit but again looney that's a that's a type of dice our all. This is a five star guy. When bad year in college he felt thirty? Okay so that's where it's like like if the Celtics to take a Romeo at twenty three five Steig. I found the draft because of injury. Sorry as opposed to fourteen tail end the lottery. That's where I don't think it's terrible. Roll the dice with fourteen with the guys that went in between there though. Yeah where where mudslide where we're looking at thirteen. Like the two thousand thirteen drafts in that. We're that's a twenty only nineteen draft like I five years from now. We don't know we don't swim. Lanes doubts in particular off to such hot starts this year draft. One of them makes obey. Is I'm still happy with the guy we got return. I what I like him. They hit several more shots. Yeah that'd be sick. When he plays we win he doesn't blame when cantor does play we lose? That's his lying charge of it. Whenever you're ready to make this very ready to drape you wait the I think it was the yes I think it was? Yesterday was the day we we could finally trade him if deadline is official so yeah. I'm ready to help. Admiration for the purse would bomb on what it'll be but when he ever GonNa get this being a stop playing. I saw a celtics fan quote tweet today like very happy and I thought for sure at Cantor got traded. I'm blocked so I had to go to the MIC go to wo- Jr and it was about the g league unionizing as a this is not good for the G. League. That's not the type of things these day to be like all hip hip. Hooray in about out during these times. Now it's coming I'd gone on to. I don't know who it is about right. Aaron Gordon L. too it makes much hate to see it trust me a lot. There are a lot of players I would like to add because now the trade machines different now were risky. That's the biggest change who cares about the real in the summer when trade machine and still has like Paul George on like the Pacers like this hasn't been true for several years trade machine. What are we doing here also also like listen? I'm here to have some you know. Cook these buttons. Don't make Detroit actually have or can I have some fun. Can I have an option. Okay if you want to turn off the whatever. Why can't Thais betrayed what's this? I have no idea how he gets to January. Thirteen share it ties. Glad wow much more money pre looking 'cause Gordon nineteen which is a lot but as Thais five kanter's honors almost five and link. I three and a half and I don't know you'd have to get so many percentage that's what as two-point like if you want to four because nineteen million yet to get within seventy five to one hundred twenty five percent and other young. Do that without smarter. You also got to think about like what the other teams like. They can only have so many players on their roster to but as soon as you get kanner. He's cut. I am him with the Knicks. Last year he goes there but he not staying there. You're doing this for pride LANKFORD. Witter future kick come with Thais you can do whatever this whatever they're just trade is numbers matchup. That don't flight. What do science mighty terrible like a nine million dollar deal now? I feel like they used to do that. And like football like AIDS size of mine. WHO's been retired for three months? Now Listen We. Do you have a nine million dollar option. It's one of those like none of it's guaranteed you just get fifty thousand guaranteed for playing along. We we just need this as a tradable salary. You'll be traded immediately declined. That option wave you stay on your couch. Here's a hundred grand. Who travels they? Should trade is bad. You talk about a deal that would work for bad. May Be sick is a columnist as for Kano straight out. LemMe Lemme tell you The clippers like yes now. I like Canada's Canada's Peres higher than Isaac scum out on her. Yeah the magistrate make this magic plus Nineteen Win Celtics minus seventy five win per is right up. Ns Canada's our so they've been the ones that he's rebounds and scoring efficiently without defense at this is my favorite debt is is per on our team by by a Read like a tire then cameras. Of course it would shoot up Six fifty eight percent probably Uh All it takes US layups. I'm saying so it sixteen Take getting six boards sixty minutes Beer Dar's but he's liberal. Who a yahoo you? Who's even afraid you just need? You'd be four million dollars to match. That's the way where the bill wouldn't you have to wait. That's the amount of months before you can trade them. I feel like you would to do before. The season would expire at the same as this. I'm guessing the problem we after we did the candidate. We the only sign like those five million dollar deals. Yuck by the Lakers. Like the Lakers cues it third piece now have they. Just don't have the coups. Mike Get Asset wide. I don't know but he He's dirt cheap so yes I wish. I wish these draft by like the grizzlies pick. I wish that had some sort of monetary value attached to it for trades. Like this would you do the grew Risley's pick for coup coups MMA cut out. I couldn't hear you said Calicoes. Yeah Yeah for Calculus with my bad. I don't know what we're doing. Calicoes mark his extra big unique. You guys big game wait. NAPPING is a powerful. He he any day was Lebron. Can't play the same time. They all play power for house. I'm sure the the Celtics Lakers are itching to make that deal like they're only chip but he's so cheap. I don't know what will go are you. What the in the postseason? So I don't know what they would change right now. Like nerlens feels like like narrow makes them like one point six now. That's something we could have booked like thunder also trying to make the playoffs off so I don't know what they're gonNa do is intra. I think they're just GONNA make global right shoulder my proclamation culmination of laughed at me. If there if they get rid of Danilo thank all of a sudden nerlens becomes available could say nerves is always available. I think he was able to win. Anybody wants nerveless can have. He's always available. I don't know I mean if you give him any cannabis they'll give you something Danilo. He's interesting could because if sign and trades are just backed in. He's interesting because they just don't have to train them right for like ten years sanitary just went away so it was like because I feel the same way about me Beasley this year. He's supposed to get you pay. Denver can't just lose him but he's not really he wants to get out but now it's like okay at the end of the year. He'll just find hill the hillside and and his three for forty five with team. We'll get a first round pick for it so no panic really which I don't wait I like I like sanitizer good things. I'm glad they're back. I wish this trait the epoch is could have been thirty days. He's sixty. I see why you can't just be trading making a trader every single day for week but sixty as a lot a lot of days. Can we do thirty thirty thirty five. Forty five yeah bike. People like 'cause the thing is is it sixty days until it's like twelve games in Portland is like we're dying. We're not going to make it to sixty games. No important could made trades November sixteen if the timber wolves could made it before they lost seven straight. Or whatever abigail and it's like if you know it's like okay. We're hot right now. But one month in get as can't get traded for. That's two months eh to out. I can't even do Romeo Fair nerlens straight up as thunder that over the luxury tax. I don't I don't even know where it could dollars going Nerlens Shea for Romeo Lanford works. Okay you become a bigger celtics fan in May by Zala to maybe trae frequent bowel pick. It makes fucking well twenty five sixteen. We need his way because all we have is wings. A AH strengthen your strength yeah. He's he makes sixteen. Okay yeah seven sixteen to seventeen. I'm scenes so it'd be good to acquire him just turnaround trade him. Because that's the level of money we need when I think he might go to Dallas because they have golden state second second round pick which is going to be like thirty to thirty one or whatever you WANNA go first round pick for out igwe dollar dollar rental. Maybe not if you're Dallas if you've got home court and you can get it for a second round pick you probably due to an salary. If you'RE MEMPHIS ADO. The clippers have their first round. Pick the Bucks Pacers first round pick. I want the book with dollar. That'd be pretty terrifying. I can Second Picture Jersey too. Yeah I don't think they will. They probably won't do thing because they are very good. It appears they were really close. Three alleged Maybe they shouldn't have done anything. It's three on Toronto. I don't think Toronto and four straight and if the bucks get to the final with the same injury help or injury the Golden State does Milwaukee win it all out. Imagine so. Maybe it's not unreasonable. makes Seventeen Ilyasova in something else offer like debated. I've already convinced myself. Nerlens Scott Heath breath. I saw earlier today. Celtics talking Taj Gibson. What are we talking about? He's a guy like what what's what's IT GONNA take it. Can we give you like a top protect. Fifty seven protect the second round of pit Oak. Do Advertise Gibson but actual staffer before he might get bought out right so yeah now wouldn't it's also like it's better than C covered embiid. He's like what's happening he's got like I'd rather have Taj Gibson the not handle right. Yes sure but you have a future first for times Gibson. If if we're giving KANTER's minutes Taj Gibson fine. He's I would would. This be are not twenty five fourteen. I really think it's known bazars. Based on the amount of money he makes base. I his skill set. Would you give them not the Memphis pay. Would you give up on. I mean ideally like Romeo works yes but I wonder what they like because I took Badly as their lottery tickets so they they want other lottery tickets in the same draft or do they just WanNa add another first round of Romeo lottery ticket banning it might be in can't sardine while had taken plenty of those before too would you take would you trade Romeo Canales at reallocate Like our own our own I maybe not I. I don't even know I would have. You'd have to put that on the table. Would you trade Rami over now. Now probably not I don't Alistair Because again it doesn't get them off. I don't think they they have enough picks x ray for no. There's got to be some really good. 'cause they get picks Galore. I think a player option on like a mutual option. They can bring them back next year for cheap to they might be. I don't know how they probably trying to get off. Schroeder ammos taken him thinks he's got two years left Galadari comes off they. Yeah he's like he's with good. I don't the only reason I think they if they a gallon. I see them. Just resigning really Stephen Adams. I'm Chris Paul. That's right and that's what I'm saying like GonNa make the play offs I can't remember. What are they Zach? Lowe's like they've already said there fans staying in the tax they don't the need to shit they would trade the dams but they're not gonNA give them away if they make the like the whatever they do. This year is fine so I don't Okay Stephen Adams has one year shorter one year. Then then maybe their assets but I don't think they're just content to if they make eighteen seed five day make the ten thirty five down anymore picks. They could get a good player. Maybe I don't don't think I was them. I wouldn't be making any call but I'd be listening I'm always listening. They don't know what other big matches the criteria for. What we're missing that also doesn't it doesn't make any money? Surprisingly not a lot of those guys out there. Estate losing defendant and be. Nobody's body thirty years. That's no doubt about that has been for many years. You talk about someone one who has to hate philly at a terry level. Now if the Dow on on Philly as age more Dow's not on him he turned into as I would love to blame major but ed as tough so it Or some sort of like Chai fairly like if the Cezanne Twenty four over the luxury tax so they could get off Stephen Adams that would immediately bring them on there so it's a three eighteen while you're basically if the Celtics are using that money to get someone from another team. That still wouldn't work as I don't think it'd be absorbed say twenty it can who who could just add twenty five 'cause they would have to take back a done as trying to figure out drama and you go to Lhasa. Yeah but doesn't work because now yeah I think he's in the anybody in the twenties. It's just not GonNa unless you. I don't think he would do it. And I know you're not For Anybody Not Jaanus Yeah. I've seen him covering tyler way to think about it. They've all share threes. Now it goes in Marcus. They got getting cs and I feel like the clippers are going to make a very. They're not gonNA meet resting on our laurels team now. They don't think they did all this to just know what they were. Good that they've they've got their own pick. They've got heart Klis. Arcos like the perfect asset like moneywise twelve million. They got their first round pick. They got Jerome Robinson Shamet they got a couple of pieces they get there the one if they wanna get big or get into the big industry just lock it up. I wonder but I do think that Houston Houston what they'll do but they're just be look into make moves the Houston Senate perpetual state eight of making moves. That's what I'm saying. It's something will come up there. I don't know what but they'll they'll do some sort of thing Many people are calling them. Red State Are you one of those people who thinks it's okay to drive stoned. 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You never trade to extend as I talk about this Ramsey antibody ran as even talking about Khalil. Mack like he's good now and it just doesn't matter because they all have it's like you have you have draft capital. You have money capital these moves take Bo. So it's like there's just not you've got the now everything else Ramsey Laremy tunsil all these deals if you're doing the trade to extend he got me thinking thinking I was I was the rule may bannet. He's what now. What's the rule though? Don't if you're going to get some like you'd pay for him a free agency like our draft of because correct. Yeah like trading for Khalil Mack trading lot of draft capital to immediately Piccolo. Mac a lot of money is using a lot of. They don't have enough to fill out your team is we see. It just doesn't matter. You're saying like a leak. Leak imposes like you physically. No no no no no yeah no. That's why I was like. Why are we trying to stop James for being? You're saying a rule to live by no no no exile would be the penalty for this. I don't has ballot. Check traded traded to extend anyone knowing come to mind like like Gilmore was his free agency. Right Cher was. Yeah like you you're GONNA pay for somebody like you're GONNA have to pay a lot. That's free agency. Works You but you're also not using the draft capital like that isn't that just say like the raiders one because they drafted a running back for one of those pigs. They shared did not draft Josh Allen with another one newspapers now that will digit rookie sacks by you see what's going on with the Jaguars. The the best not only bad. They have a all. The player filed grievances against I teams twenty five percent league-wide against the Jaguars that's impressive they have Like absurd japs. I saw two major. I don't know how it happens. I follow way too many specific vic fans of fan bases. I don't shit about jags. Sons was on a fucking stupid Yankees ms so many teams knowing gives us shit about But yeah so. I'll Jaguars Jaguars Vance sleigh of our fucking done Tom. Coughlin done say they just they just one. The rams trait though main can't be too done with never tried to extend and I'm really trying to think I bow jack. Never try. It's up in the draft does but not as high as other people. He'll train another again. That's like eating up is fine. But you're traded it just double. He said it bears team building a good example of how you should do something dumb no matter how many cows money rolling with also a rick. This is the major rookie contract isn't as valuable as a good quarterback. The only one with the ring is Russell Wilson. Like that's that that was his main point like we have you train. You get rookie quarterback Matt if they're not good right now you put all your eh in that basket and you have less eggs now because you traded for going back and you don't have money so I see what you're Sam. Because of the raiders nailed all three of those picks were Bears big-time now. Oh yeah if they nail even two of them Josh our I'd be laughing at the weekly. Jaguars should trade. Yeah I'm I'm trying to think of a single trade to extend guy that's just been like yet nailed it. Yeah like Khalil. Mack Mouse Max fault. The bears isn't that is is. None of these. Were Jalen Ramsey fine. He's going to be a great player. Same tunnel is none of these guys problem. But like Houston's GONNA lose as like first round in their playoff series going to boil boy annum if they could just get would whatever kills them in the playoffs. They'd get a second air. The Dow two first round picks and they. They can't sign one because they're about to have to pay Laremy Tunsil off and again it's not trump's law walk because he'll be good it's not Khalil's fall you'll begin saying he's got us fog but if you trade for like that you're it's a double whammy might again. Not any good teams are doing that if the bank. Obviously this is one of those everything was different. Things would be different but the bears in just taking one of the good quarterbacks in that draft back Canoas even bringing up this conversation now because again. That's part Democrats. It's just where we're at now. Like what she quarterbacks better goodman no he's not and now feel the exact same way for drums like a boy. You WANNA pay thirty five million next year. It's like man listen. Somebody's getting paid this summer. Alan crab like fifteen million a year. But it's only for two years so it's like whatever the pay him. My him need thirty million or Andre Drummond. It's not bad to pay thirty. You may for drumming is bad did not get value for thirty million right. So it's like you need good over cheap but now we're ah cheaper good so yeah just a rookie quarterback donald so yeah. They're gonNA build a defense. It's all very easy in theory. Yeah just build. It needs to get a cheap rookie quarterback spend all your money elsewhere Win Lots of games are because our I was about to say I think Donald could at work that I remember to their coach was since GonNa work. That's exactly it. You hit everything else and leave you with that much like you. You just giving yourself that much less rope bike. Baltimore's doing it while right now. Yeah but the Baltimore. Two more consistent one of the better drafting teams attain Very Conteh Delight. No we'll just get the COP picks. We're good we now offer offering killing. They're about to make the playoffs for the second time in three years after not making it for like twenty years garage so again like them. Let now those guys go was funny very funny but long-term when you make the right choices I'm not gonNA say like not keeping Stefan Gilmore. Was the right choice getting play okay. We're just fine with this. Third Brown pick will get next year. That's what that's where the you should be looking at doing. The let me find somebody. That's looking at trade ready to extend his now. NFL Picture or contracts five five years Yep Need with twenty fourteen drafted. Those guys are just today. Make sense the cloudy. Let's see yet another three cloudy that might be to extend and I will be will also that was like third rounder. So that one and I thought you'd probably a certain point it's like okay right now. They trail too I for cladding to extend like well probably the bad. It's just the I would Said was holy smokes. The have all these guys yet. Any bar just got paid Okay so the next year that'd be together. I haven't gotten paid yet this year. But like Amari Cooper trae to extend and they got to the playoffs else. One game might win the division. So I think you could see either side of that but I was also like with a like over a year left left on the deal to like I feel like that and also I think like both sides to do it again. Mississippi so Kevin White Yikes knocker the thing the thing about football. You can't do that. You can't do from a leak Beasley because by five years Senate football. We know you're good or bad for the most of your bad like five years in your. You might not be in the league none the less the same team. This is your your provide Breeze just now Really good really year five for him. Yeah he was a metre. Jesus this Christ I feel like he's still like twelve another guy. That devante Parker that was that was gay. That wasn't his fault. That's what I'm saying. He's fine casing pitiful slushayete. Yes Jack. Tom's and just got paid. Aaron Johns in that draft by landing collins like is like if the giants knew they were going to Washington now that the giants they drafted remember giants. They were going to do that should they. Have traded trade them to somebody looking to extend probably over welfare. I'm sure they did because like Mike very early. Like this guy seems to be decent. Why don't they want him again? They don't WanNa antibiotic safety when Jamal Adams Latin like defensive tackle saw stir Fowler Kevin White Air Flowers. trae Wayne's Danny Shelton those were on top twelve pigs. You're not bad do not fit your nothing Shelton's so good. Another browns appreciative of his brown misses mom dominate where he was put scouting's Imagine if you can have to just two pieces Veasley defense to build around like Danny Shelton and Jamie Collins. One Joe Haden the outside forget about it. People like okay like an extra. That's probably really when we should because the tunnel and Jaylen dre was. These guys haven't got paid yet. They're about to get a day like hardly harder. You just got cut. I think. Sure dead. Like Neil he's he's a guy winner. Maybe it's just worth Atlanta's todd. Trade him just move they might have should Jarrett last year baseball. It'd be good this year so so they keep thinking that a lot. I don't know what Atlanta does. I genuinely have no idea pigging in a finished with five nine right now. Yeah that was bad win for both the bad one for Atlanta bad loss is for San Francisco. Neither of those teams are happy. Now Atlanta Quinn over Shanahan there. They'll take that because like that loss would get it was. It wouldn't get them to like a third right now. They're picking twelve. They've went to enroll. That's really that one didn't kill them. Too I think they've Killing now they ran into sex by since the by their foreign to so it hasn't getting twelve peak like you just you just take a defender and roll it back like everybody's paid so so the destroyed hasn't been ag EPO Nessa Edge from Iowa so defense stink. Just keep taking defense. Hi Suppose I feel it does line still stink. Did last year will. Yeah they either side of the line next. Lemonade doesn't go for the Knicks for five weeks. Yes I just bad there but yeah that a new trainer the need health. They need a lot. What dolphins can have three top twenty three picks Reagan three top twenty three three Yup as pretty fucking good it is st was loss again? Texas laws as earned that this would be last week. The worst of those Pixel Pixel Three twenty two twenty. Three and those'll frisky enough out of school. Went Straight to enjoy thirty minutes still good no question. That's the Berry like what's it worth to the being. The dolphins saved three twenty two twenty three for one. What are the Bingo? Say it happens. Everybody's after say no you can't trade away borough you get to at three. Would you definitely could you think if you trust says full bill of health in in him as a prospect. And if you WANNA wait for I I wouldn't. Hey wait inform tag again taking bay and again like it's fair football the long year man. It is so like for all this. If you can just hand them Joe Borough next year by this year's forgotten even roast thing yet even at burroughs thanks. Nobody's fault them for taking a one but boil boy because I know they shouldn't but the shoe they get are they. Don't take two if they get chased young men to players and twenty two and twenty three advantage at Trevor Lawrence the next year. I'm sure those same fans will be just as happy. That's the only thing but I'd say this yet. Gimmie three twenty. Two twenty three a need to know you're doing for borough because I'm trying to get from three to chase Ya. I'm not giving either one of those first round picks just got but like would it take for the bears past or forty dollars move past the bears for trubisky it. It was that was because I was with three two two thought it was just like a first and third it maybe the bear instead of the traded threes. Yeah yeah say if you get three sixty seven and one hundred eleven and also a third round during the two thousand eighteen piped-in what a what a fleecing a absolutely but again. If I'm at this point would you do that. No use those two extra picks knowing that the player you traded up with chase young again like we said if trubisky's good none of this if they drafted Watson nobody cares what they traded or they gave a now for sure who we who is Fab- projected against the to pick right. Now right now is giants chase. You know there's no chance that's Tangkuan Says a day ago say they got coin flips. Yeah so as of right now this says chase you into two or three. The I think the last thing I saw was an obvious coin flips flips but the giants have three wins. The dolphins have three wins. So there's three teams that are Korean. Eleven so they could be four sympathetic. Got You get off is GonNa have the second pick right now. Yeah they I mean they should have the first team from for the year from what I hear. They shareware dolphins right now so that could be to all these coin flips. And and what have you to twenty two hundred twenty three. We want borough that bay giants got Washington this week too so giants probably getting themselves. They're out of chase young race. The AH Falcons start now on us from the bengals. Think I'd take a do that. A whatever to get chased young with extra twenty two. They need so much more than a quarterback Iraq's but if the dolphins have to trade up to what I think they'd be content with either the quarterbacks most likely in their trade they're gonNA do that they would have just tanked it all out. I think the right wherever they end up. Oh man three twenty two and twenty three. Because you've you've read the dolphins at that point if they get three twenty two twenty three and just sat on a quarterback or trade one of those non non one of those Philip Rivers on Cam camped off Sick look if three they took like Andrew Tug on this that the tackle from Georgia twenty. They haven't taken Deepened demand from Penn state wide receiver from Colorado. Sure Is that what's the dude from Colorado's Should looks good. Yeah he's supposed to be nasty. Yeah so they will have gone to the dolphins experience mm-hmm add have thank Click on a mock draft and it was literally just what they assume the picks are GONNA end up being not not even the players just the teams and sick thanks. That's what I wanted love it. It's five days come on Internet like I'm just like you have to go couple years back to even see because it does take as a couple years but like with the twenty twenty fifteen draft By Tampa Bay had one here Mariota's on what if Jacksonville three twenty two and twenty three. Please Ma'am we need Jameis Winston heisman trophy national champion. Probably Joe Borough and again. It only doesn't work like they took Fowler. Three Amari Cooper Win Knicks Bradsher if the tackle when next they took Brennan Scherf if three they took but but duprey went twenty two said they keep him anyway just add to the Jaguars defense willing to bed. He produces sooner Thompson. Went Twenty Five Byron Jones with twenty seven they say you get two of those do advocacy ethic work better and then sign or thank trae but okay. We'll we'll just trae for Philip rivers. I just I can't do this. We'll see what we can do. Because if they're if they're like we still don't know one. Josh Rosen I okay. Can we signed Kampfer. Mike One plus one or two years and still keep Rosenthal. He's still might be our gadgets. Not Now maybe we'll see I think they know and I've but at this point it's like if you know. Is it worth to keep him retreat but can you even get value for them. Yeah so aw perfectly perfectly fine backup for share so Fizi now fifties always arrested. Take your starting job. He's shown that time and time again. This backup maybe ever do you know he leads the dolphins in rushing yards for like. That's how you don't know a single thing about Josh Rosen. You'd like you told me that about team. I could tell you a single thing about if their quarterback Gu's good or not because that's horrible set. It's him I think it's three quarterbacks. Lead their team in rushing. I think it's him Josh Allen in by. Let me say Josh isn't it to playoff teams in We make sure -cause Joshua's for sixty seven frank Now it's not right. It's not that who the fuck was the other one has running quarterbacks. no-one uh Sean Lagat as you was running back by committee out rushed to cuyler. Maybe just because they've Kenyan drake just got the cavs got five. Oh four drake yesterday he was gone bonkers saying all you have four seventeen in Arizona Arizona. David Johnson's been bad. I can't imagine yet so cuyler does a in running. Those are the three at three twenty two twenty three You get Quinton Williams Andrei Dila entideas Howard went to twenty two twenty three but it could be like Darna savage when twenty one. He's Been Good Josh Jacob when twenty four. He's been good just gives you like those or too often to tackles all into deeper tackle. Yeah go twenty five. He went yet him in Monterey Sweat with back-to-back depot with later but should have went in. It rained is looking like deputy is the best receiver in the world. Someone one post like this rookie class has been insane for receiver me. That was me. They put all their stats up today. And just been good like there was fuck in the term. McLaren's been filthy. Yeah he's Nice Hollywood's Nice Harry not so much depots. Good listen airy times good every time. They thought that they're ahead of the ball yesterday. And it was fucking getting ten yards a carry. Sure McCall Harbin's good is McCall's nasty Mega McAfee like All all the people in the draft twitter trying to take credit for Lamar even though they they were just trying they all need to apologize about data food whether people there's people in on everybody right. That's that's draft. Twitter works but the adamantly against them to say from Mecca Payment Obama. I mean in any of these guys really after learning that like A. I don't think I drafted tight in the first round. I don't care I don't care who you are. It's another position I feel like I've just seen enough value elsewhere. Get where you're saying some of these tight end prospects. They they are but look at the best tight ends Who now I urge By gets what I'm saying you can find get the best in the world. He was a fourth round fate by. I know but that's a to Iowa tight ends when the first this year didn't there was fan following the second was the first one the to win the Congrats Heinsohn look really good before he got hurt. That's why it's like Anisur looked better than that. Let's see what other fourth round tied in stern from. Green Bay will gronk losing a first round day DASA knocks him Buffalo Dousing Knox. I don't even know how he got drafted because he just didn't throw him the ball in college. He's maybe the best I'd ever seen. He's famous kindle. Calling thirty thousand doesn't like four years and again not a first round. I did gap between is the EH between he and Hopkinson Dawson. Nine High Net mo much to where you rather have one in the first round. I alternative That's why wouldn't no I know it again. OJ Howard look at the. WHO's the reason for tight ends? OJ Our he he was top of the second was was he. The Safe Winder was he ended the first into the. Here's the twenties. He's twenty third overall. Yuck did they trade up to get him to. They were good words. He was seventeen. Ed Wood Alga. I'm looking at eighteen draft over. He Mark Jackson. Yuck rookie year. It was really good and that hasn't played more than eleven game since Hayden in hers went. First round of things that is bad way was Mark Andrews fourth. Yeah Yeah not too high fuck do third eighty six overall. Graham wasn't mound of earth wooden also was a long time ago. Whitney went to Laney Walker. Wasn't Jerry Cook wasn't car route on for way way. Too much value to files would not take tight emperors. Rudolf wasn't I WANNA say fourth. The second Second my bare but not a first overall career by fat Hogson sure look as they should put too much value elsewhere. Unless you're going to redesign your offense around Negga the guys we've seen that have been that good. Were not drafted infers around so no I run a tight end for this and then and then it's like those dude for the jets. Let's he's made illegal on time. So I don't know what's happening there Ryan Griffin is a monster this year. He's not putting up huge yards. Every time he gets the ball to first down or touchdown and I feel I got a competent team. He would be putting up numbers but what do you now now. Marc Andrus Disley fourth round. Pick for you get another guy. They didn't and throw the ball to a guy the by tight end drafting strategy. Like did you catch Fazul's in college. You did your out out. I got no use for you. Three first round tight in twin 2017. OJ Howard Nineteen Ingraham. twenty-three David Joke. Twenty nine rookies pills. Jones is better than a joke. Google he was out of the first round pick Jake but was draft. kiddle was the fifth round pick drove so three first round picks number. Look at all the for that. There were no first round tight ends hunter. Henry was the first woman picked in the second round the year before that were not the. I'm I'm just GONNA I the one before that Eric. Ibran tin no things I I know. Thanks injuries but still straps as well Rudolph and Lance Kendricks. Both with Jermaine Gresham was a first. Rounder no thanks RENAE. Pettigrew was a first rounder. No thanks Dustin Keller griddles and Vernon Davis went six MARCI's Lewis who still somehow on the lead like eat like kilowatt. It was like you get these type of titans now. You don't like their guy that used to play basketball. They've turned into all pro tight ends. I don't know if you can say that for any of like it just keeps happening undersized powerful would you might be Julius Thomas Not Hall of fame but you'll make a couple of pro bowl Michael Finley they tried it with a Uh Mojo. Alex Cox it has not taken yet. Hey worth Is the AD bring in one. undersides decides Power forward. I look at like mid may like there's always some power forward who brings who wins like the Patriot League and guests the tournament. Make it right out of the first route. That's Ramlogan still. I got no need for the first time in in the south. It would not drafted kicker punter running back tied in with that. Do quarterback remains to be seen receiver. We've gone over receivers our it's like you better be fucking share like the tournament. It's like marcy above all I need to see you getting separation at every level. No matter where you're no matter what your numbers like when you're scouting the US countless need to see your win rate wide receiver lending me C. Are you getting your gashes now hitting you. That's that's the number one quarterback to be cool by receiver. I want seperation. I'll go up and get the boss cool being six four to revive school. Running four to the school. CAN YOU SEPARATE NO I. Also if I ran a four three wouldn't take outside outside linebacker in the first round because I'm being to the Bengals did it to keep rivers. I was like this is nonsense. He's not a middle linebacker keithly. He's not a outside linebacker like Smith. He's you don't take a top ten. Pick separate they do they do that Kinda Hey. USC Yep yeah that'll happen. So now I'm I'm fake no linebackers either because those keep getting found elsewhere to they do but they could also just are your defense forever. They're they're right female the pick. It works out for do you know any of these positions doesn't always like Saquon Barkley good running back not working out. I know I agree. But that's the way it's not just like positioned lies like if you nail of the right linebacker. I think that's I would still take that in the first round. Will you October first or second I. I'm looking at the Bar was first round key glee Here we go. I feel dot com very nice sort of thing like the bills bills took admins first round. There's I'm looking at because it's like rushland backer. But now like with the weather. You like Devin Bush at Devon white by if they're just GONNA be Slick Bobby Wagner save a Roquan Smith had his injuries. But like guys. If you'RE GONNA use guys like that right but before that it was Reuben foster went I I was like I don't know this guy's fowler three Beasley both at top eight. Fowler's all five sex. He made it out of the Combine Thompson. Cuba's Mingo six Jarvis Jones Viewing Werner. yuck Keith Ingram mate that was really. That was a good year for linebackers. Keithly Ingram hightower Mercilus. Nick Perry off I first round for Bobby Wagner stick around for the best of them at Levante Dame the second best of them are also set granted they so you relax. I miss me. Panthers fans fans young adults of all people. I never thought we'd see the day now. Stephen Chain Lana Mcclain for his rounder. So I uh I'm not out on one. Of course it has to be the right one but if there is it's just one of those there's a tight end position linebackers probably way down the road for me. That's fine that's different and out tied in outland linebacker with us at Punter and linebacker. You're listening and and as I think. Now they max he's just won the race guys. I raised some of his dad. I might drift to put it before or cited would he pointed forty seven times this year and they return nine of them. I'll tell you who I'm looking at those gutters. Same draft It s people. That's what everyone seems to do. Yes I guess that working I think I would take an elite punter. It's college college but if it's pro- it's eight in the leaker that's what you've settled on. Now that's a I feel. I could elite Acre in college would be the ultimate weapon. The thing about that. Is you think so because so many kickers stink. Yeah but but the good offenses in college are so good. That they're just really not even using kicker like if if it's Alabama that close if they get reasonably close Alabama's like they just gonNA score a touchdown. It would have a kicker. Of course I guess I tell. Alabama is the iron bowl which time you had more specific. I mean the one where they kicked picked at short newland got ran back by Auburn. Never owners laughing the kickoff on my camera Kentucky's defense has given up to thirty points and sixteen games for overseas. And you want you're never gonNA be added into the game to you're never gonNA be blown out in a good bit of that is because Mac Steffi flip the field every single time. They're like our defense wasn't good beginning of the year. They were really good at the end of the year ear. Because of all those rips the ball going down to the six is blast him. Yeah because put all those college offenses on the the horrible ones and most of them are horrible you give them consistently bad field position. They just can't overcome the NFL. The good offenses can patrick. mahomes would prefer to go sixty six to eighty six but he'll go eighty six college. Alad dislike boy. Oh boy I don't I don't know if we get to first down for the quarter so I'm never trained to extend no more titans first round trying to think what else us moving guards up there was a time. I was like guard's going the first round at preposterous honestly ever since Arkansas senator got taken a WanNa say in the first round like any offense if you're an elite offensive Lineman I'll take you. I don't I was Frederick from the Cowboys Ilya Gopher. Yeah because I got the ethnic. WHO's there Zack? Martin I think they would like three straight years. Yeah so if you're going to be good if you'RE GONNA make all project position Russian except partner won't take you I run or running back. We'll take first round. CONTRITE was Kelsey second round Jason. Travis Jay's was undrafted Suni Kills Travis was a third round. Pick doing historical stuff tighter. Be Sure is so Ikat. As his freshman year he caught one bass arena Kelsey. Yeah then it looks like twenty ten. He just didn't play at all twenty eleven. He had thirteen receptions over. Eleven Games uh-huh coca and then his last year ED forty five affair. Seven hundred twenty two yards and eight touchdowns feels like a lot plot for college titan. George biddle Four years he caught forty eight passes pretty good seven hundred thirty seven yards into Ah. Cj Conroy Tied in from last year. This guy can kill It's just not our offense that's right the in I had like a heart condition at the combine. which wasn't great It was one of the I think he he's he signed I think it's free Remember for him that he was with the giants but he got past the hard thing I believe I feel like Oklahoma tight ends I always get super enticed by and that's why like a Mark Andrews like makes me smart wear Jemaine Gresham it's just like will What's going on with this guy? He's one like Oklahoma Weird one. I don't know who to trust that Oklahoma because Lincoln Riley is clearly doing something right but he's only team to be in the play-offs every year hasn't won yet even being there is impressive right. He's turning guys. I like number one overall. Pick number one overall pick. James can't throw straight it because I asked him I was like is Jalen hurts a prospect yet. The most people like now some people eight. Yes that's like I like. Borough got a new system is the best ever. Why can't hurt get new system? And when I say he's GonNa have that kind of success but maybe Lincoln Riley was better for him than what Steve's Artesian was doing who listen. I've got to start saying crazy things things like that. Now I've been drinking like getting after your tightening Lincoln. I've no idea because he's turning people in heisman winners. I can't trust this single thing from you. Now out on fullbacks have to be on fullbacks amazed that they another one that just what you need to do to versatile guy. I don't know of course we're GONNA have a lot of third and fourth them once. Maybe we should have full back. I don't know but Kenny CORNERBACK cornerback to in a pinch. Probably not it's not even third in one. It's like I ten when you can get it to second four everything. Just it's it's so much easier so you WanNa talk about Patriots offense going Shit. It's not only I I drink dighton went down our second-string died and Ulster at fullback. Also down. Now you've got all these famers tight the full when you check out heart for San Francisco. They were very pretty fucking worried because he's very pedaled all the running they do of every like again. That's the good fullback. Good tight in like those are two guys. I can use help constructed draft that unders juice. It couldn't have been drafted now. I can't imagine any interest the fourth round my bed by the Ravens. Rb Dare. Yeah Oh yeah yeah. Yeah it was the right pick care but again like man. Oh Man that was twenty third day like imagine if they knew they were going to Lamar right right boy. Sixteen Lamar. They'd seventeen while he was there. They just invented this. fucking console Backslash D.. Tackle that they use innovation. Kill still mad they could Giancana conover. Orson Charles our NAS furious like I know what situations I can use John. Connor of pure fool. But I know always row I know it right now or is Charles potentially could do a lot of things were none of. The things ended up being none other thing. We're just GONNA get and do one thing that I got my kids playing left tackle drafting not that hard also impossible tough tough place to be. It's cake on one or two students scored because nobody what he can do it right literally nobody. This year is even hard on video games tough scouting in. Yeah now. It's impossible impossible super having said that I think once I get my ten tips down. I feel like it'd be expert. I think we all agree with that advice. Basically the devil tied into basically the double. It sucks to talk about about. Jack was fucking bag when he drafted fullback slash tight end. Aaron listen isn't when I was working I was working great than not so much. That's where again people just started so I can take take two tight ends nonetheless Belgium. I had that idea in his head for ten years. He's like you can't be too tight as to be the right to he. He got the right to work like John People. Yeah we'll just take to finance to Thailand's with vastly different skill sets like they. I can't imagine why this would get drunker. He he probably had that idea when they're going to like the same football camps in Shit it in Connecticut in New England when they were like super like in highschool receivers. They both blocked. I see you give it. We're going to hand it to him. Sometimes that's why offense for the next decade marketing officious. And that it wasn't now he's going to get a ten million dollars a year from ballot check. Yeah he's probably. I'm not here yet. Paying running backs assume going to be the inefficiency could just be like like we're not drafting or pay him will. We gotta have like. Something's gotTa shake so me back again. San Francisco's like yeah. We'll take Kevin Coleman will take Mckinnon didn't work out but yet her but it's like this if they're like we don't WANNA use any draft capital at all on him. I just don't want to have to. We just want to before the land that much less we're like paying him. Guaranteed money on like two year deals. Feels like it's enough to keep them away from going somewhere else. It doesn't kill your cap forever and you don't have to use the traffic but I also see it. Where like when we take Sony at the end of the first round you just have a guy for five years? Megan not like it's not even like 'cause saquon immediately was making like top five running back money that was not as yet. But that's the thing if you do you you gotta get the Right Guy and get the right guy. He carried them to a super bowl. I don't know if that could be said could have been anybody. Nick choke it did it. He probably could not saying that. But Sony did do it in this real world. That's why not get into it next year. He's thinks with a pit. It could've been doing now ready to pay sunny that second deal house. I know I'm out. Now that's what I meant. For years for millions it'll be so undervalued bugging. That's the inefficiency. He elands catch by land on just like God. Damn that's the running back inefficiency taking running running back who's not that fast can't really break tackles. But he can catch therapist cured. He he had to carry out through the playoff because he wanted to catch shit through the playoffs. Now I ain't that we considered the riots on the planet with anybody else. They're still win. They did his part. Did it could be. Both boiled has handed the ball to Leonard Double Duty. I have to Georgia fans tweet me yesterday too because we decided to keep giving mm Sony. The ball is posted just on the first drive and then sent him home At the showers surprisingly worked and every joy to fan was like. Hey He's he's not a guy you just hope it's a home run like you just have to keep feeding him at eventually. He gets there and it's like I'm fine with extra restaurant. fucking offense stinks. I don't know why visit bad that idea. I don't know who who among us now about on this Josh mcdaniels lesser. What thing again? I think it's just the thing we're because you know. Oh He's not going to catch it so hard to give him fifteen twenty cares when they know it's going to be thirteen to twenty like if he's on the field he's in the backfield in it. Looks like a running play. Him is proud illegal. Be Play Exit. Pass if you know that did not cover him immediately tonight. Guest the ball no for sure dive at someone chip block them. Play that I understand but don't even try the play action that that's what infuriates me. 'cause then you're right. Yeah then they now. It's around giant tra- Aboard Often Karen Cleveland Very. Well yeah to some of the situation another notice the company you want to be every time. I'm I'm like mad at did not work well for Cleveland. This year they got six wins. This should be a banner year for the black. They should be hanging. Banners is flip flop man there year away but by the trail before the year. Del Can't wait to leave telling my random people in the street rescue me. The people are walking away from Jerry Rice and they're running into Odell like wow. What is this very incredibly talented street? I'm on what housing's just give me out of here. He's GonNa be going to Arezzo next year catching passes from cuyler. It's IT'S GONNA be great jury duty boy. I feel like Ju receivers back. I can't wait for Judy backpack. He's having a plan is bowl game. Aim Right shouldn't put out there so you see John was like I haven't committed to the draft yet. The right after the heisman he was like I'm definitely one of the draft. Where in a matter of moments but what a weird story to come out I always take them off my board? Uh doesn't output right on my you give him here. He went back to college retire. Red Flag went to. There's no days. Yeah that's what I'm talking talking about. Now he's on. He went back to immediately. Do the Nick Bozo Blige combat finished my degree. But I'm not playing any free games at all. Okay you back on board. Yeah he would but it'd be it would still be a question mark there like what's happening would just in harbor now traff Memphis. Oh come on draft players bad. Once you've got my attention earth always free. The rest of the tip is will be the pamphlet. Ninety nine ninety nine Will be back later today. Some picks big maybe goals. Maybe you're you're at least hitting one one a day now. I'm hot ten and five last week. Terrible Friday brutal Friday you owe in three after dominating the early part of the week cap trending down. I'm coming back strong today. I got paid fact Lakers Pacers. Oh Yeah Board screaming my name motions that jump out of his seat. games Trust definitely had the heat over the grizzlies. Yeah he had had in Walker. Were complete opposites. 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Beck In Black, Part 2: How does Matt Canada factor in Ben Roethlisbergers Lombardi hunt?

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Beck In Black, Part 2: How does Matt Canada factor in Ben Roethlisbergers Lombardi hunt?

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So our second topic today obviously the other interview that went down on Tuesday believe was one Mr Matt Canada. A ton of a ton of great stuff and a ton of interesting thoughts around Mad Canada and this coaching staff what he brings to this team what the ad means. I think it kind of want to start off at the running back position because obviously Matt Canada has worked a ton with the mood. He bounced around a lot and then Pittsburgh managed to draft a running back for I'm basically kind of chased him around wherever he went, which is interesting. Maybe there's some grand scheme here maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist. But obviously James Connor at the McFarland and Jalen. Samuels. Under, a Matt Canada. Do, you think that that's GonNa Affect this offense are they going to get a few more looks? Is Benny Snell. Even the odd man out it does that mean anything you Mr Benedict. It does I honestly think there is a reason we have so many Matt Canada running backs and that's because he uses them very versatile is running backs run routes they line up as a wingback, which is the predecessor to what we now use for slot receiver and they ran routes. So when you look in for a running back and say, hey, we want someone who can run but we also want someone who's going to be a threat in the passing game because. Ben. Rothlisberger is our offense. He's GonNa throw the ball to these guys. It. Kind of gives a little bonus if they in a Matt candidate style offense where they had a lot of versatile usage or they did a bunch of different things. Right now I'm sorry to cut you off not. What Do because that's right where I was going. All right. So in the live chat, they're saying Jalen Samuels is not making this roster. Oh I'll throw it right back to do group that is someone that's GonNa be on this team in net twenty twenty or they moving on he was the leading receiver among running backs I. believe he had more receiving yards than any tight end last year he also led the entire running back position the number of snaps plate offensive snaps let everybody. I. Don't think he's going anywhere after his injury and he came back. He stopped playing special teams. They kept him off of that. He probably wasn't a hundred percent, but he's a good special teams player. He is really good in the shotgun. He's a good receiver. He's not good at being a runner in traffic. You know kinds of the smell expertise of being a guy who runs in heavy traffic just. Finds a way to get yard same similar thing would live on bell. Jailed Samuels isn't that guy? He's an. Old Guy. So last year. The boxes clogged everyone's focusing on run. He didn't have enough space to work ben is back. He's going to have more space chase clearly pool is out there in air out there stretching the field. He's GonNa have to work. You're going to see him used more and. With Matt Canada Jalen Samuels the reason he was drafted undrafted. He was listed as a tight AC everyone was like is this Guy End? He's clearly running back. The reason they last resisted him as a tight end is because when he played in college for Matt Canada and the guys who followed him, he was a wingback which lines up and looks like a tight end but that's his position as a running back position. In that candidate system and we've seen. Jalen Samuels be good receiver and we've seen him be. A good runner in space. And if matter if they're bringing back any of Matt Canada's wing back, kind of options and and Kinda looks. He's the best guy for that job. That's his best position. He's not a true running back. He's going back. Now, two questions for you. One for me, I is the wildcat dead or is that coming back the the old interception for Jalen Samuels play and then second question comes from Brad Jewett who a quite He screams it. I guess here it's only capsule. He says tell me you're gonNA keep for running backs in the room obviously, the steelers traditionally keeps three. Do. You think the cat is dead. They were keeping four for quite a bit last year. As long as they're getting special teams use out of them. That is something they will do if Anthony McFarland is kick returner. Very, likely, we could see four running backs and the fullback. One of the reasons they kept for last year was they lost Roosevelt Knicks but we could see that happen I. Think the wildcat is dead. But speaking of Canada, the best part of the wildcats is is back Canada's like that's his thing the best part of the wildcat was James Connor like they would when they snapped to to Jalen Samuels and he just pitched forward to James Connor in it was pass but he ran the Jet Sweep That's like that's what Matt Canada does and they were able to do that with James Connor because that's James. He did that in college he did that was not candidate. He knows how to do a jet sweet and those were the best moments from that wildcat why they kept going back to that. So I think the wildcat is dead but I think you'll see that stick around as some of the stuff that Matt Canada adds to offense. Right, of course, touching on the jet sweeps, you know Mac Hata brings a ton He he he is kind of an expert and kind of spreading out the field moving moving the defensive players around shifting formation. What does he bring this team is he is this a game changing move? What is Matt? Can is impact on the twenty twenty steelers. Okay. Yeah. This is where my alley I did a film room on this I think last week but. You take those sweeps. I think everyone remembers Juju Smith Schuster I. pro- probably most people remember us. Mr. I catch was a touchdown is very first time Ben threw him the ball was a touchdown and it was a what we call shovel pass where he ran behind the line of scrimmage and was almost running play Ben just tossed it forward to him and he ran with the ball. Canada ran those but not out of the shotgun, he ran out of the quarterbacks under center, and that's just a wingback run that kind of pass plays in old wingback run from back in the old days of football. Just with the quarterback too far back and has to pitch it forward. You're like the same the tap pass to James. Connor assist the jet sweep. So I I think we'll see. That kind of stuff worked in. So I think we will see more jet sweeps. I, don't trust Dante Johnson unjust. We we he ran a couple. So, fast out those, he's so fast out of those that you're just like, yeah he's great with the ball why not do that? the interesting thing with those places. You can take. Running backs out of the backfield and still have a running threat. If. You see Jude Juju Smith Schuster lined up there right off the tight end, and he runs that little little shovel pass he's attacking run gap. Just like you would if you hand it off to a running back and he ran it. But it's a pass and he's not lined up in the backfield. There's if they're in man, there's nobody sitting over the defense watching that play same with the jet sweep a run to the outside. Where you didn't have anyone behind the quarterback have anyone back there they're out in formation and you don't know are the is he running a slant is going five yard our or could just fly across the middle of the formation and take the ball in the runner. I and that's where. mcdonagh's impact really to me fits fits what the steelers do fits what Rothlisberger likes like he loves being in the shotgun, but you can run these things other shock on it benefits him even poor because it turns a run into a vast let. so He's collecting stats. He's looking at everything's looking better and you have these multiple threats where you didn't before right now obviously can't it brings a ton and this offense going to be really interesting. To Watch because I, think there's a lot of things going on here. If I asked you to define this offense, is it a west coast offense? Is it a running gun offense at? What would you describe the Matt Canada? Offense ass. That's the thing. Like the best I give old school I. Guess It's it's Oracle in highschool huffing and. You don't know like he's always said He fits it to personnel when he was in Wisconsin it was a ton of Ron big formations, lots of stuff One of my favorite things he does when he was with pit. Is he ran or Peos with quarterback that didn't run. He wrote a repast option with a quarterback who didn't run and how he did it as if you watch, the game will take the staff. have their RPO hand off that kind of like my handed off to James Connor I don't know if I am yet. He's doing that with Connor and if he doesn't hand it off to Connor, he pulls it away and pitches it up the middle to a tight end who then takes shuttled pass and runs. So, he's not even like the quarterbacks not going to run with the ball, but it's an RPO. You get that kind of Connersville in that way or is tight and going that way he did that in college he did that beat. Clemson, with it That kind of thing is is it's crazy and then you go look at him in Maryland where it was all about wingbacks, it was a lot Tana jet sweep running backs play their plane three running backs at a time. The, you got three running backs tight end on the field and a quarterback. And One wide receiver it's that's the kind of stuff he can run there. You have in wide open. It's all over the place and I think his he really Tip that off to by saying you know I'm here to learn what we do best here, and I'm here to learn what what Benda's best and that's what we're going to do. He's GonNa fit that into what Ben does best, which is probably GonNa be a lot of stuff out of shock. Yeah. No kidding and obviously with the way that he molds offense, I think Matt Canada's a really interesting name to be the next offense coordinator. Do you think that is realistic? It was Matt Cana broaden to lead this offense one day or is he gonNa have more of an impact in be kind of a pseudo offense coordinator come day one. I think you'll have some impact We got our first confirmation of that Deontay Johnson's interview today where he kind of kind of let it slip the they're learning. Those motions. He stated he's I'm still learning those motions and the stuff that back Canada brings. So they're they're using some of it Is He a future offense coordinator I. Think he will be. I think he's the kind of guy that's GonNa get that shot. I don't know if it'll be Pittsburgh. It could be somewhere else I mean he could. We've seen guys bounce from the NFL back to college and then back to the NFL again if this offense really takes off though. And you see ben kind of revitalized and they take a couple of years with Matt Canada playing. quarterback coach maybe give him a promotion title but have him doing the same thing. You could definitely see him if we're contending super bowl yet yet someone would grab him and be like I'm come do that for us and no king now it the steelers offense does take off. Could they justify firing feed? Because because it, he's still the offense corner. If they take off you can they fire the OC to bring the qb coach I think steelers fans will accept it but you think that's something that would be a reasonable to actually happen i. think it could happen. But not for a couple of years I think you're you're talking at least two years even if the offense this year suddenly takes off and we. Win The super bowl someone might try to hire him but that's one season. That's that's a someone who's been in the NFL for exactly one season. He has never coached in the NFL before, and so that would be tough. That'd be really tough for a team to say, we're going to drop him in make him our offensive coordinator for one season. So I think we're GONNA, see a couple of seasons Ben Rothlisberger gone. By the even keep Randy fichtner like. visor any feature your offense coordinator Ben Rothlisberger is gone. He just runs benzoate rothlisburger offense. That's he does. So I I think that we could see the. By I don't think it'll be right away. Super Quick question for you. Ben Rothlisberger or Matt candidate WHO's more likely to be the next dealers an offensive coordinator Better, office offense coordinator now. You're right. Now he's going to be until he retires I think he's probably the offense coordinator for the next four or five year. A stick around I. Think he's got. He's he's GonNa do it. He's going to be that Guy GonNa continue to be that guy. I'm you know I wouldn't be surprised by that at all now in Mac Hannah's offense obviously obviously there you can't run stuff a little bit different. What's One? Not Not quarterback necessarily but what's one player that you think's going to be the most positively affected by having him? Running kind of working with this offense. I guess. If if they want to use the wingback physician as a big F and we'd see that say if the steelers keep fewer wide receivers and they don't keep like a Ryan Switzer as a keep Jalen Samuels, you could see Jaylen Samuels lining up primarily kind of as a slot receiver as almost like a receiver. If that happens it would be Jalen Samuels. Other than that. I would say, Deontay Johnson stands a chance. One Who could people won't like this after I just said I don't think he makes the Roster Ryan Switzer. Ryan, Switzer could do it. If you remember Ryan Switzer has played like the sidecar and shotgun he has played all over the place he's played on the inside and outside of trips formations. I could see him running those little shovel passes because that would still keep Juju Smith Schuster deontay Johnson on the outside drawing attention analysis in the Ryan Switzer's in there boom he's in the middle gaining what zero zero yards. One Yard he could. He could see that kind of usage He fits it. He's versatile. We could see that really I really hope the steelers do better than that. But I, I can see it happening He's because he can do it and that's the big question is if as Matt Canada's this. As they apply some of his stuff to the offense is going to be who can learn. The role who can learn to play that wing pack position where you're GONNA have to do three or four different things and you're gonNA have to sell those different things. You're you'RE GONNA have a lot of versatility required of you. We know Jalen. Samuels can do it. We can look at a guy like the Johnson who has taken those kind of jet sweeps as a he could do it James Connor shown he can he can do that kind of stuff but do you want James Connor lining up out there that's more gimmick than you know regular thing. I could see a lot of people benefiting I think it works the number one, the number one benefit is to Ben Rothlisberger. That's number one. Because if we're running the shovel passes and these jet sweeps. Defenses. Have to be looking short. They have to be thinking laterally. We can spread out and they still have to think about the middle of the field you're just creating gaps you're pulling and stressing the defense recreating creating little gaps. And Ben Ben, doesn't need much than doesn't need much to hit targets and open space. That's the you don't have to give him much right and Makhaya. Even talked about his accuracy during his interview backtracking a little bit. You're seeing Ryan. Switzer talking about his versatility graduate not feel in it said, no, he is not versatile and he wants you to tell them how. Can you give them the breakdown of how Ryan Switzer is versatile I, WanNa say it's a good versatility I. Don't I. Don't think he's a very good player, but the steelers have used him. A lot of different ways inside of that slot route role is I that slot receiver role, they have used him various ways he runs a lot of screens middle. And he was a lot of things where they're like catch the ball and right. Now. That wasn't working at all in two thousand nineteen. But he wasn't bad at that in two thousand eighteen he wasn't bad at that. The year before when Ben was healthy all season when he was there all season and he was used in places where he was a running back at times, he lied up his age, but he lined up in different roles and they kind of. gave him the ball and just kind of see what he can do with it. And he did. All right. He's he's not the guy you want but. He may be the guy were stuck with. That's that's all that I would not be happy if that situation occurred I would I would much. Honestly I would straight off rather see Jalen samuels the slot receiver then have Ryan Switzer be that I think he could actually do better. But. If things fall that way, we could see Ryan Switzer in that role interesting I I like your take on that I think personally I think guys that will. Kind of explode the most under matt can I think guys play fast not necessarily half fast forties but they do think Deontay Johnson even rookie Anthony McFarland. I. Don't it's going to be i. think that's going to be really really interesting to watch just because how much speed they have and how much motion he brings a team. What does motion to do defense in Weiser important at the steelers start doing more. We we've seen that used against us. If you go back to the not the two, thousand, nine, hundred defense as much with the two, thousand, eighteen defense. We saw a lot of times where they were able to. Take running backs and put them outside of the wide receivers and take wide receivers, move them inside and all of a sudden defense that you had set up and you're like, all right we're running zone you know or or running man and Joe Hayden on the outside receiver and all of sudden outside receivers a fullback. Joe Haden and man against the fullback. Like your, that's what you have and on the inside now you had Vince Williams lined up in the slot. And the slot receiver happens to be their number one receiver. That's not a great situation and we saw that in two thousand and eighteen. It happens Kenyan Alan. Guy was absolutely terrible but. They were able to get that because of how they used motion how they used Unorthodox Setups backhanded takes it even further. Mack Canada will take it where we saw with pit especially with Maryland he's moving time and motion and all of a sudden the defense has to sit there and as those guys are moving figure out. Okay I was on that guy. Now, the way the were lined up. I'm on I'm on the okay. The Third Guy I've got recount who and as soon as they said, they snap. If you're playing a veteran team that has it all together, that can really follow the communication they're going to handle it. You're just running a different play. But. If you've got a rookie in there, if you've got someone who doesn't know what they're doing if you've got someone who's just not strong at. A Film Room. Just came out with about miscommunication on the on the two thousand and nineteen defense where showed where you know they put a guy in motion baron went to switch roles trail edmonds came down to say no, I've got the tight end you switch back to the running back. And more barren moved back but he didn't cover the running back. He just was like. Okay. I'm in the middle of the field I don't know what I'm doing here like just a momentary lapse in the running back goes out in the field. Now he's got this whole second head start before mark realize oh. Yeah that's my guy. That kind of Alaskan create a twenty yard. Did against the steelers and it set up for fuel, the cost us or we still in that game but those kind of mess ups can make a play. And it is a third down play sudden you got fresh cut to downs that can be a drive changer and that can change a game that can that can swap. L. FOR W. Any moment in a game, and then we saw him we've Seen Matt do that the college offenses defenses. We could see them pull it off in the NFL right and you know what? I think I think that's sneaky things about this higher. It makes me really excited I. Think this this. Is, injection of of talent of creativity rather on is going to be really interesting to see especially because he does something else a whole heck of a lot and that's play action. Now, what what does that bring to an offense? Who What does that do defense for those of us that that might not now? We'll play offs and Great great way to check his watch. The early season. especially. The San Francisco game where the steeler for biting on play action you had devin Bush mark Barron every play just biding on play action and George Kennel running behind them wide open if it's zone play those linebackers by stay up they stay up second they're not as deepen their zones and if you have a good fast tight end There behind those linebackers and oh? Yeah. We just we just added that kind of tight with our. which we we seriously just added the weapon that you want to take advantage of that kind of pressure being put on linebackers and it really goes along with how Matt Canada uses sweeps because adjust weep is the receiver goes into motion right before the snap and then is at a dead run when the snap happens and boom, you get the ball to really quick and they're already running. Well, that's as a kind of play action. If you could take that and go through, it's it's kind of a play action move would you use played action of that? Or you've got play action with a running back and you've got kind of a jet sweep motion going on there's all kinds of things. There's all kinds of things you can do new. York. The New York jets actually did to the steelers last year. Where they had levy on bell move out to a win position to he lined up in the slot, which loving on bell does and emotions back to running back and they had a running back slash wide receiver on their team who moved out to a wingback spy, and we treat it as a as a wide receiver and they ran this play Action Ryan to levy on bell going outside. And then turn handed off. To this guy behind that. So the steelers are pushing outside like get outside quick Levy on's going outside and guy ran behind that in a wingback, run an actual wingback run in the NFL But the very same kind of moves that we see the steelers us with those shovel passes. So. That's one way that could go down I think that's something we could look for in play action is. Just so many different directions people are looking so many different directions people are looking and it's hard to run. Plaques out of Shotgun. But if you think about it, play action out of shotgun basically is an RPO. It looks like Rpo my handing it off no I'm pulling it and I'm throwing. That's kind of play out of a shotgun. And Canada does that. Matt Canada did that with this? I say he did that with pit against Clemson. And they had a run option build and it was like it was an Rpo run with multiple runs and passes. You could see that with bad. I. Could see that with Ben where he fakes the hand off James Connor coming across you know and you've got people running around deep. But if he's got that, he can do it under the league's little shovel pass if he just wants to do that and you. Where are you covered? You don't even know what you're on defense. And one we've talked about a lot here but haven't talked about directly Eric Hebron. There's a Lotta love for him going around. He's loving it in Pittsburgh he he is. A on instagram on twitter. He's talking about how much he loves ben how much he loves. The city. And he's playing offense almost hiller made for him is are we about to see receiver that's tight end make that sorry rebutted see tight end that's going to break heath Miller's eight touchdowns in a season record four tight end. Tight end break. The thousand market is he gonNA are are really really just GonNa be a be about to watch the the awakening of Eric Broncos. He all that is, is this guy changing our offense? I doubt that back of it I expect good things from him. For offense is set up. To use a lot of the tight end as kind of a push on the defense, like we use a lot of ten fifteen yard in and out routes with our tight end just because that pushes the linebackers back that really pushes them back. That opens up the underneath routes for guys like Juju guys like Deontay Johnson, and we make those guys make a lot of yards off plays based on the tight end drawing attention. Now if you see. The running backs dry more guys up and you see more play action we could see Erkki Hebron would be amazing and that kind of thing. But from if we just plug abor Erkki brought into what we ran last season, I would not expect it. I would expect him to have really good season with Ben kind of what we saw with Vance McDonald and Jesse James in two thousand eighteen where you're effective Like eight hundred yards. I that's I'm around like eight hundred yards five to six touchdown thing with him. But it could go bigger if teams are like Okay Eric Bronze The guy we're going to cheat off of you know we're GONNA put a linebacker on Air Jebron and hope he doesn't kill us. Just. Why he's GonNa, kill you that's that's what's going to happen if it's a wide receivers are taken off Chase Clayton, we'll catch a few forty, sixty yard bombs and you've got the Andre Johnson looking like a number one receiver put up stats like he did before last season. You could see Eric Braun. Being that guy defenses on like okay. We just have to single coverage broaden hope he doesn't single handedly beat us. Right. Sorry. Cutting each other off. It's our first show. We're GONNA get. You know what? Eight hundred yards five touchdowns would be outstanding number for Eric, Brown? Yeah. Before we get out here, we're heading into the top of the hour. My my last question here there's a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. How many thousand yard receivers are we gonNA have how many thousand yard running backs we're going to. Is Impossible we've none like obviously the ball's GonNa get moved around ton. What do you think's GonNa Happen there I I think you're going to get to players thousand yards Juju. Smith. Schuster Andre Johnson Ex I think the running backs are going to be I mean if you want to count receiving end rushing yards together. Yeah. I think you could see a running back reach that by we're GONNA use multiple running backs. I don't think James Connor is going to be playing all the time in getting fat enough to really get those thousand yards. I. Think you'RE GONNA see. Eric Hebron pullout six to eight hundred events. McDonald with another five hundred, I think you're GONNA see James Washington with like five hundred yards usually a lot of guys with those numbers and we're GonNa say, Oh, you know we thought they were going to be better than they are. They're not quite as productive as we thought they were. GonNa. But that's not going to be the case this just GonNa be there. There's so many so many yards to go round. Last season we have We had four guys I think. With four three guys with four hundred, five, hundred yards. which is kind of standard. We usually do not have more than three guys with five hundred yards I. Think we've got as high as five one year when there was some injuries and Ben was mixing it up like no one had big yards. By don't expect that to be the case I think we'll see Jews you eat a lot of yards I. think we'll see D., C. Step into that clear number to roll, we'll see tight ends account for twelve thirteen, hundred yards combined. And then there's going to be running backs getting yards like it's going to be all over the place. So there's GonNa be there's GonNa be yards available but I don't think we're GONNA see a lot of a thousand yard receivers. Awesome And I think with that we're going to head on out here I'm of course, if you haven't already, you're listening to the podcast platform. Anywhere, your podcast by the way make sure to go ahead and listen to part one. If you haven't already, we chat a lot about Ben Rothlisberger and his press conference where he broke down a ton of stuff of course, both Jeffrey. Myself will be coming back to each and every week over around the same time around nine o'clock pm eastern time So it's great hanging out with you guys in the live chat It's great getting your feedback and we have a lot of fun doing this. So as we head out here, just want to thank each and every one of you for hanging out with us for my co host Jeffrey. Benedict I'm back. Thanks for tuning in will catch you guys next week. Go really quick before I get out of here. We gotTa Really Quick Superjet and I just WanNa thank Kathy Super Super Fast here says like the show everybody and marked the tape re- Juju Cathy, thank you so much for that I I guess I guess we're GonNa take off here I show I think I think that a little bit of fun. 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