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"amy walter" Discussed on Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy
"A filibuster in which the minority thwarted the majority whether regardless of how long you've been there you've been part of one of those filibusters and so there is that while. I think you should get rid of it. There is the argument that people can naturally say. Yeah we were able to stop something. We couldn't have stopped because we had the rules written this way. But i do think the short term tension is really going to be on the left here because as you mentioned the messaging on this is amped way way way up. I mean this. Is you know this is gone right to the end of existential crisis And i think it's it will be interesting to watch kind of when you layer this into the tension on other issues like infrastructure And spending you know. Look i i remember two thousand nine. It was a long hot summer in washington and that had very little to do with the temperature on the thermometer. It just was your in that time period of as you said a little bit of a circular firing squad the other interesting thing about this discussion. What's follow this week is mansions. Bill does include national voter. Id like voter. Id for everyone It has been orthodoxy among democrats that voter. id equals voter suppression and that If you're a democrat and you believe democracy you've got to be against voter. Id the truth is a a majority of americans support it and and this is interesting. I had this discussion with Our buddy joel benenson. Who's done some polling on this And turns out that a majority of african american support voter. Id why because they think if you have documentation they can't screw with you And and this week stacey. Abrams embrace the mansion bill that would have codified voter. Id so that was kind of a sub text to all this too well and bringing to light what you were saying.
How the attack on Washington, DC's U.S. Capitol unfolded: A reporter's perspective
"Insurrection at the. Us capitol building on wednesday has taking stock of democracy in america. This hour we start with gray segers licko reporter for cbs news. I was in the capital on wednesday reporting mainly from the senate chamber what started as a historic day in the capital. Where for only the third time. In history congress was debating whether to overturn the votes of thousands of americans ended with violence and tragedy full. You know it's funny. I did expected to be a bit of a weird day because of the inherently unusual thing of having dozens of republicans challenge the election results in several states which is pretty much unprecedented. Mr vice president. I paul gosar from areas does the gentleman from arizona. I rise up for myself and sixty my colleagues to object to the difficult day day which would require a lot of concentration and very exactness in my report and then everything was just flipped upside down so suddenly. You can't have electron ix in the senate chamber. Would i usually do is. I'm in there for about thirty minutes or so. And then i'll come out for five minutes to write an email to my editors. Let everyone in the bureau. What's going on. So i had actually come out of the chamber and was in the press gallery writing an email and then all of a sudden i heard a senate gallery. Staffer shout pence has left. He had just been taken out of the room. And i assume that it was for security purposes and that My first thought was a. Wow i guess those protesters outside have gotten a bit more rowdy and then the next thing i knew there was a capital police officer at the door of the senate press gallery saying lock that gohmert now just shouting it through the room and i realized oh my god this is this is serious and then the officer was telling all of us who were in the press gallery outside of the chambered me to grab your stuff and you need to get inside the chamber and we are going to lock you inside. The chamber definitely kind of illegally took my took my phone and laptop into the chamber 'cause i i needed to tell my editors that i was alive and also telling my loved ones that i was okay and next thing i knew the the doors were being locked behind us. The press. gallery sort of overlooks the senate chamber floor. So it's kind of like the lip of fish bowl and the reporters are looking over this list into the fishbowl. Where all the senators are on the floor. It was very clear that something was wrong. All senators pretty much. Where on their phones standing looking extremely stressed and there were police officers. All around the doors. Senator amy klobuchar could on kind of her best mom voice and shouted a shots have been fired getaway from the doors. This is serious. There came a point where all of a sudden senators were being evacuated and it seemed for a moment that they were going to leave the reporters in the senate chamber which would have been very unfortunate as riders broke into the chamber just moments after senators had left but fortunately a senate gallery staff shouted down. You know hey what about us. Police officers just told us okay. Follow the senators. They were literally steps away
US 'Safe Harbor' Day Reinforces Biden’s Electoral Victory
"This week marked the so-called safe harbor deadline when states have certified the results for the us presidential election typically by the harvard deadline lection related challenges at the state level or all wrapped up but president trump is continuing to claim without proof that the results in many of the states that voted for joe biden are fraudulent and should be tossed out a lawsuit filed by the state attorney general of texas and supported by the president as well as seventeen republican. State's attorney general and over one hundred. Republican members of the house is asking the supreme court to overturn the results of the election in four states carried by biden. Pennsylvania georgia wisconsin and michigan. That would bring biden below the two hundred seventy electoral college votes. He would need to be the president-elect elect so how can an election certified and contested helping us to make sense of it. All is our friend. Barbara perry the presidential studies director at the university of virginia's miller center she begins by explaining who the electors are and what the electoral college actually does elect doors. One might need them as delegates to this thing called the electoral college. Actually have a t shirt that says property of the athletic department of the electoral college. Which i love that. The politics department at uva gave all of the graduate students at one point. But it's not really a place it's a is it. Is this group of electors. They are chosen typically by a method that is determined by the state legislatures in each and that concept spelled out in the constitution that the legislatures of the states get to choose the manner in which these electoral college delegates or electors will be chosen and that can be through a primary system much as the presidential. Candidates are selected. It can be through a convention of the party in a state but typically these are people who are party leaders. One might call them. Party regulars party activists the only thing that they cannot be is a federal office holder so for example a senator member's house representatives. A member of the cabinet could not participate as an elector but typically it is determined the methodist election by the state legislatures and then really turning it over to the party organizations in each state to choose. This will call it a slate of electors. So then let's walk through what happens. We have the election. We have as we've seen especially this year the states. Sometimes it takes a little longer than some states. Take a little longer than others to certify the results and then we have something known as safe harbor day which happened this week on tuesday december. Eighth can you explain what that is. Yes i in legal terms particularly as it's used in this context of an election. Is that once. This date is set as this is the safe harbor. And once you state certifies your election results you by that date. Then get to be in the safe harbor where your determination and your certification of that election should not be prone to any more of the storm in the seas and the roiling that could come from those who might be questioning the election and its results and so that's where we are now so help us understand this barbara. Because we've passed the safe harbor day we know that every state has certified its electors and yet the texas attorney general is filing a lawsuit or has filed a lawsuit asking the supreme court to block the electors from four states. How can this be possible given that the safe harbor. Data's already passed. I agree with you on asking that question and my answer to that would be what an irony think. Back to two thousand. Think back to the bush. V gore controversy which was much closer because remember that the florida recount that was being requested by al gore Because he was just a few votes behind probably about three to five hundred votes behind. George bush in that popular vote count in florida and whichever person was going to be certified and deemed. The winner of florida was going to exactly end up with two hundred two hundred seventy votes necessary to win the electoral college. So that's how razor send those margins were so understandably al gore was going to keep pressing. But here's the historical irony that republicans were saying on behalf of george bush. Oh safe harbor day is approaching so we really must wrap up and stop this recount in florida and the. Us supreme court accepted that argument by the bush side and said we cannot violate this concept of the safe harbor. Florida must certify its vote and indeed the recount stop. Florida certified their votes which showed that bush had won by sort of three to five hundred votes. That was it and that was it for gore. so by view is isn't an irony that the republican party. This time round led by at this point that commander in chief himself but the attorney general of texas joined by what sixteen seventeen other attorneys general. Republicans in states are now completely violating that concept of. Let's really pay attention to and follow the safe harbor rule right i think many constitutional scholars would also argue that. It's unlikely the supreme court is even going to take this case nonetheless rule on it but the fact is we do know at this point that every single state has certified. It's election correct. That is correct.
US presidential election: A turbulent transfer of power
"Peaceful. Transfer of power is a cornerstone of american democracy. Right now president. Trump is not only refusing to concede this election. He's also denying the incoming biden administration access to key documents funding information. They need to ensure a safe and smooth transition now. The formal transition process is actually a pretty new thing. Congress passed the presidential transition act just over fifty years ago. Em things proceeded from there with relatively little drama or problems until two thousand versus the mission of george. Bush is not up for me to accept or reject the legal process. You know. let's just watch this happen. It'll be over soon. We'll be ready for transition. It wasn't until weeks after that. Bill clinton cabinet meeting december twelve thirty five days after the election that george w bush was officially declared the winner that gave then president elect bush just over a month to plan for and staff his administration course nine months later the september eleventh terrorist attacks happened catching the nation and a relatively new president off guard when the nine eleven commission report came out in two thousand four. It pointed to this truncated transition as a weakness and recommended a more formalized process katherine dunn tempests at senior fellow at the university of virginia's miller center the senior research director at the white house transition project so laws were passed in the two thousands or spin sort of three sets of laws that have been passed to kinda they keep refining it and keep refining it but what they did primarily is that they enable the winning candidates to receive funding to start their transitions after they were formerly so that meant that once biden was the democratic nominee. He was eight. He was provided with all space some funding for salaries and the ability to start planning ahead. Talked to us a little bit. About how worried you are or how worried we should be as americans about this as you pointed out the attacks on nine eleven happened not that long after president bush took office. If something happens january or february of this coming year would the biden administration be potentially a unable to respond because they just simply didn't have the staffing and they didn't have the time to ramp up and be ready. Let me back up. Just a bit to point out that There are basically two important phases of the transition. The i i pointed out was after the nominee has been formally nominated by the party and they received some resources the next big transfer resources comes after the head of the gsa has ascertained the next president united states and they use that verbiage. Esser that verb. I'm not really sure why but And that's the point at which the president the incoming president can start to have access to classified material that can start to be part of the president's daily brief with Tells them all the national security issues. It enables the biden transition team to have access to all of these individuals civil servants and political appointees at the various agencies so that they can interview them. So what's happening now. Is they are preventing the biden from moving to the next phase. And what i would argue is the most important phase at the transition. It's critically important that the biden staff members be able to go to the department of justice francis and to be able to interview. Fbi director the head of the criminal division the head of the national security division to try to get a sense since of. What's the lay of the land where the priorities. What are the crises. That might be boiling over by the time we get here. And that's what they're being denied so. I think there should be a lot of concern about this. The the inability to advance to the next stage of the transition. It's not to say that it's going to necessarily result in some sort of crises that but we want a country that's prepared so it strikes me as were basically just sort of harming ourselves for no apparent reason and were inhibiting our ability to be in the best possible situation. We can be on january twentieth. And there's no reason for that. We have the resources we have the capacity. So why so. Let's talk about the. Why and and the who so. Emily murphy is a name that most of us probably weren't familiar with until now she is a person who is at the head of the. Gsa can you talk a little bit about how her role what her role is. And how much leeway. She has to continue to refuse to release these funds or to allow the biden team to start integrating with the outgoing trump administration. So emily murphy is the administrator of the gsa. It's a political appointment in the gsa. It's office is largely responsible for all the government real estate so they helped provide office space and oversee office space You know in in most situations would never even hear of the essay in this particular case because the legislation housed it in the gsa. She has the capacity to release the funding and the resources to the party. Nominees and then eventually to the president-elect by law she is the one that has to ascertain the election so there will be no funding going out until she does it. So what's tying our hands. I mean she is a by president trump. She must be a republican. Who has some loyalty to this administration and is unwilling to buck the advice. She's getting probably for mark meadows. Probably the chief-of-staff sues weighing on her.
Trump is stonewalling Biden's transition. Here's why it matters
"Amy Walter from the takeaway were well underway and the ability for Theo administration in any way by failure recognizes this our wind. Does not change the dynamic at all. What radio peaceful transfer of power is a cornerstone of American democracy. Right now. President Trump is not only refusing to concede this election. He's also denying the incoming Biden administration access to keep documents funding an information they need to ensure a safe and smooth transition. Now the formal transition process is actually a pretty new thing. Congress passed the Presidential transition act just over 50 years ago. Him. Things proceeded from there with relatively little drama or problems until 2000 President George Florida's certification of George Bush is the winner. It's not up for me to accept or reject. There's a legal process here, you know, let's just watch this happen. It'll be over soon and we'll be ready for the transition. It wasn't until weeks after that. Bill Clinton Cabinet meeting December 12 35 days after the election that George W. Bush was officially declared the winner. That gave then President elect Bush just over a month to plan for and staff his administration. Course. Nine months later, the September 11th terrorist attacks happened catching the nation and relatively new president off guard. When the 9 11 Commission report came out in 2004, it pointed to this truncated transition. Is a weakness and recommended a more formalized process. Catherine Don Tempus is it senior fellow at the University of Virginia's Miller Center. She's also the senior research director at the White House Transition Project. So laws were passed in the 2000. There's been sort of three sets of laws that have been passed to kind of they keep refining it and keep refining it. But what they did primarily is that they enabled the winning candidates to receive funding to start their transitions after they were formally nominated. So that meant that once Biden was the Democratic nominee, he was he was provided with office space. Some funding for salaries. And the ability to start planning ahead. Talk to us a little bit about how worried you are or how worried we should be as Americans about this, As you pointed out, the attacks on 9 11 happened. No, not that long after President Bush took office. If something happens January or February of this coming year, would the Biden Administration be potentially unable to respond because they just simply didn't have the staffing and they didn't have the time to ramp up and be ready. We'll let me back up just a bit to point out that there are basically two important phases of the transition. The first I pointed out was after the the nominee. Has been formally nominated by the party and they receive some resource is the next big transfer resource is comes after the head of the G s A has ascertained the next President, United States and they use that Burbage ascertain that bird. I'm not really sure why, but And that's the point at which The president, the incoming president can start to have access to classified material. They can start to be part of the president's daily brief with which is the tells them all of the national security issues. It enables the Biden transition team to have access to all of these individuals, civil servants and political appointees at the various agencies so that they can interview them. So what's happening now is they are preventing the Biden from moving to the next phase, and what I would argue is the most important phase of the transition. It's critically important that the Biden staff members be able to go to the Department of Justice, for instance, and to be able to interview the FBI director, the head of the Criminal Division, the head of the National Security Division. Try to get a sense of sense of what's the lay of the land where the priorities what the crises that might be boiling over by the time we get here, and that's what they're being denied. So I think there should be a lot of concern about this. The inability to advance to this next stage of the transition. It's not to say that it's going to necessarily result in some sort of crisis. I don't know that, but We want a country that's prepared so it strikes me as we're basically just sort of harming ourselves for no apparent reason, and we're inhibiting our ability. To be in the best possible situation. We can be on January 20th, and there's no reason for that. We have the resources. We have the capacity. So why? So let's talk about the why. And the who? So Emily Murphy is a name that most of us Probably weren't familiar with until now. She is a person who is at the head of the G s A. Can you talk a little bit about How her role what her role is and how much leeway she has to continue to refuse to release these funds or to allow The Biden team to start integrating with the outgoing Trump administration. So Emily Murphy is the administrator of the G S. A. It's a political appointment in the GSC itself is largely responsible for all the government real estate, so they help provide office space and oversee office space. Um, you know, and in most situations you would never even hear of the G s a in this particular case because all the transition funding the legislation housed it in the G s a She has the capacity to release the funding in the resource is to the party nominees and then eventually to the president elect by law. She is the one that has to ascertain the election, so there will be no funding going out until she does it. So what's tying our hands? I mean, she is appointed by President Trump. She must be a Republican who has some Loyalty to this administration and is unwilling to buck the advice. She's getting probably from Mark Meadows, probably the chief of staff who is weighing on her. So what happens? The electors meet in mid December, and they certify the results of this election. Is that the time in which you could argue that There just is no formal or legal option for the president to continue to It's sort of obstructed this process. Right? I think the meeting of the electoral college and the electors casting their ballots. And if if the numbers show that you know Biden exceeds 2 70 as he as they appear to now it strikes me that there is she has no justification. To deny the Biden campaign or president elect by and hit the resource is, however. This is a norm, shattering president and we've never had a president who has not conceded. He's lost the election. So normally, I would say yes. You know, that is clearly a decisive moment in American history when the electors cast their vote, And if Biden exceeds 2 70. He is the president. At the same time. I honestly don't know what to expect in this administration. It's very hard to predict many of his political appointees have been loyal to the core. You use the word norm shit or term norm shattering, and I'm wondering how close we are to instead of norm, shattering. Actual democracy damaging, I mean, really, fundamentally undermining the integrity. Of our government and the things on which it is built. I would contend that President Trump along with many senators, who are Denying the facts of the election results and are upholding sort of Trump's Baseless claims of fraud and stealing the election that they are undermining the very tenants of American democracy. In order to have a healthy democracy, the citizenry has to believe in the institutions. They have to believe that the elections that they voted are free and fair. And by actively perpetuating this notion that there has been fraud and some sort of stealing of votes. You are undermining the important tenets of American democracy. And that has long term implications and we are already at important and I would say high level of turmoil in this country. Pandemic has wrecked havoc on the account economy. Various incidents across the country have heightened racial tensions in this country. This is not a moment where we then need to undermine yet another important aspect of American democracy. How
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"Welcome back to politics. With amy walter from the takeaway as we've been hearing president trump is attempting to undermine the legitimacy of the election by spreading falsehoods and filing lawsuits for more on this. And what the president's endgame is. I spoke with toe. Lou owner reba white house reporter for the washington post. The past few months have been classic. Donald trump the same kind of personality. He had as a businessman which is sort of heads. I win tails you lose if i win the election. It was all free and fair. If i lose let so doubt in it beforehand so that we can say it was. Rick even said the only way we lose this election. As if it's reagan. This was weeks before election day so the endgame to make sense that there is one. It's this so doubt in the election that he does not want to go down in history as loser. It's not a long sought out strategy of how to actually change votes or change the trajectory. It's really about changing the narrative and having his supporters believe that he is the winner. He was a victim of voter fraud or having the election stolen from him and he's been laying the groundwork for this for a matter of months so there's not really a broader and game here that we can see it's actually effective in terms of making 'em you have a higher likelihood of having a second term. It's really about trying to win the day when the media narrative and win the narrative in the minds of his supporters through history. So that they don't see him as a loser as a one term president who was not able to get reelected instead. He wants to go down in the minds of his supporter as someone who fought the system and ultimately a martyr to the system of corruption and election fraud. Even though there's no evidence to support any of that talked me about this too we. I i keep reading reports hearing reports that Within the white house there are people telling the president. Basically that it's over that it's not likely to be turned around. Or at least maybe they. They know this and they're talking about this privately but that the president seems unable to comprehend that. I'm wondering how much of this is really about the president not quote unquote understanding how voting works. And how much of it is as you pointed out just simply putting this narrative out there to save his own reputation. He knows exactly what's going on. He knows exactly how this is going to end up but He doesn't care. I think it's a little bit of both to be honest. I think the president has surrounded himself in an atmosphere where he only gets information that backs up his preconceived notions the people around him his aides present him with highly skewed data and graphs to back up his preconceived notions on things like the coronavirus crisis and increasing increasingly welcomed conspiracy theories throughout the course of his administration sometimes for political convenience but sometimes because he actually believes them or he believes that you know they they are credible no matter how outlandish they might be so part of it is. The president has surrounded himself with people who do not provide a check on him but instead try to feed his ego and try to give him information tobacco what he already believes. And that's part of the equation here. Why he believes that he could have never lost a fair election even though polls indicated that he was likely to lose the election and part of it is the fact that he uses some of these things some of these conspiracy theories for political end to try to reach a goal of convincing his supporters to believe in an alternative reality and he uses that with great effect and in many cases by trafficking and conspiracies on a number of different issues. And you know as you said. It's not surprising. It should be you know shocking. The president would take that level of conspiracy theorizing and use it and targeted and weaponize against are very institution of the voting process. But this is something that he is willing to when it comes to you know whether or not he wants to go down in history as a legitimate loser or whether or not he wants to have. Many of the people in the country feel that he was a victim or someone was The election stolen from him. We also know that the president in his in his previous career he did love litigation and suing folks or threatening to sue folks. there are a lot of Legal challenges out there right now by the president's team and republican officials. How long do you think this goes on. Is that part of the end game as well. That just to try to keep things in the courts Even if they get thrown out and even if it doesn't go their way it drags this process out and again questions the integrity of all of it. Yeah we're this is really uncharted territory. We have had an election that has gone to the courts. That court ultimately decided twenty years ago with the bush v gore race but now the president and his team are trying to contest the election in multiple states in states that are much further apart than the five hundred and thirty seven votes that separated florida and it really would require a kind of massive Legal victory on broadscale for the president to flip the results of an election in multiple states The president is on track to T to lose the electoral college and potentially by a relatively significant margin even as he is also behind the popular vote. So the idea. This is a disputed election. The idea that voter fraud could have changed. The outcome is a really tall task for for the president's legal team to try to convince Judges about it. It's really not clear that they have a pathway to do that. Even if there is limited voter fraud in some cases which they have not provided any evidence of that that exists there. There's no sense that there would be a massive conspiratorial voter fraud. Scheme that would flip multiple states that President trump lost so. It's really difficult to see where they see this going. We have heard from some allies of the president float. This very dangerous idea of having state legislatures intervene and over over. Ride the will of the people because you know this idea that this election to fraudulent. We can't trust the process. We can't allow the the people's vote to carry the day instead. Republican led late. Let republican led legislatures would overtake the fifth the responsibility of assigning electors. And maybe give the electoral votes to president trump. even if the people voted a different way. It's a fringe idea. But it has gained some steam among some of the president's supporters and that may be the president's endgame but that is so far out console fringe. That would really be constitutional crisis will be very dangerous for our country. And then you may see some of the president's republican allies actually speak out against it. That may be a bridge too far for for a few of them to thank you again for all you do and for joining us and helping us to understand where we are at this point. Really appreciate it. Thank you on thursday night president. Donald trump took to the podium in the white house briefing room to do what he's been doing for months attacking the legal process of voting and attempt to lay claim to a false victory. If you count the legal votes easily win if you count the illegal votes. They can try to steal the election from us. This is not true. The votes being countered right now our legal. There's been no evidence of votes cast illegally period end of story now back in march when it became clear that the pandemic was going to drastically altered the voting process in the united states. We set out to.
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"Subscribe our podcast for all the latest and she can follow the show on Twitter at the take-away and I'm at Amy Walter. Back in April as cities and states across the country began to shut down in response to the coronavirus pandemic many states chose to postpone their primary elections, not Wisconsin, the primary went forward as scheduled on April 7th, and it was chaotic today will likely be an election day voters will never forget off that line blocks and blocks and blocks long. The reason for these long lines a decrease number of polling sites and shortage of election workers. I have probably been here for almost an hour now and I have only moved from a little bit before the bridge in here. Oh, I'm upset. I'm really I'm up there because they've been doing saying so many different things about how we supposed to go off when the morning you can't do it now. Election officials struggled to keep up with absentee ballot requests thousands of mail ballots were ultimately rejected and when it came to in-person voting photos of people waiting in line for hours wage, the height of the pandemic went viral now.
'Wake up Call': Prominent Group Warns Biden Campaign That It's Falling Short on Outreach to Women of Color
"Want to back to something that you all at she the people did you had a series of virtual listening sessions and you're take away from those was that they were real. WAKEUP call. That's what you were quoted as saying, we're ringing alarm bells were saying we want to win. But if you listen to the women on the ground were not there yet can you talk to us about those sessions and your conversations with the Biden campaign about them she the People's network includes many women in the battleground states at the focus for us is an Arizona Texas Georgia Florida and the three Midwest states that trump won last time Michigan Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. And we gathered you know local and state elected officials and heads of organizations people who work on voter registration engagement, and we asked a series of open ended questions. How much do you see yourself in the campaign? Is the Biden campaign been in touch with you What are the issues that matter what would need to happen for you to want to amplify the message? What are your frustrations and what we heard? Is, that there was a lot of frustration on the on the ground amongst the women of color who are in the middle of the critical voter turnout we know in our big lesson from two thousand sixteen is that winning and twenty twenty is about turning out our voters and activating those who are most likely to vote democratic. That's women of color particularly black women and in the states that I mentioned with very few exceptions. Women of color about a quarter of the electorate in the majority of women and so It's incredibly crucial that the women of Color in these battleground states turn out at higher rates and how was the Biden teams response we had a meeting that that there was a lot of openness and listening I think there's some really smart women who the Biden campaign is brought on and I don't. Think it's any secret they're playing catch up. You know because it's not like Biden's a new candidate. You know it's just that right now for the general election in this strange year, the women who were on board now both Black Asian American. Latina who are an indigenous who are running speaking of folks on the ground there they're open they're listening the issue is that we we did not want. I didn't want to see these red flags and not talk about it because it is a People who are in the business of electoral politics, understand one of the biggest mistakes that the Hillary Clinton campaign, and when I say the campaign, it's a campaign it's the it was the priorities pack it was the major It was the party apparatus as a whole ecosystem. One of the biggest mistakes was not too deeply invest in black voters, which is black women early and often and look at it as turn out. There was way way too much focus on trying to convince Republicans are moderate white voters with the messaging and the Komo. You know all that in order to carry the election I. Still See evidence that we haven't completely learned the lesson from two thousand sixteen because WHO's going to be on the DNC stage. Well, John Casick, who is a Republican he's never trumper, but he's also the guy who in Ohio as governor got rid of the early voting Sundays with with. What black organizers would would call souls to the polls? So here's a guy on the DNC stage who was part of voter suppression in a key swing state. That affected the black community whom the Democrats depend on high turnout. We haven't gotten the the lesson fully but. Those of us who are on the ground understand what is going to need to happen, and we wanted to make sure to make those relationships and call out where we need to do some investment and fix things fast in order for us to have high turnout.
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"It's politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway. It's good to be with you. All this hour we'll be talking about the history of slavery and systemic racism in this country in recognition of the June eighteenth holiday, a holiday which celebrates emancipation. We'll talk more about June teeth than its significance this year, but we begin in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm RJ young. Tulsa Oklahoma. Sports, talk, show, host and sports writer. The year I turned twenty nine, then Tulsa police officer Betty Shelby. Killed Terrence Crutcher Ali stood on armed. In the middle of the street in my hometown. The summer I will turn thirty three and George Floyd which choked to death with a neo throat. By, yet another man who brought a violent end. To a black man under the guise of being a peace officer. Floyd couldn't breathe and. Right now, the only thing I can do is hold my breath. That audio is courtesy of Keio issue in home and part of the America amplified initiative, but Tulsa racists. History dates back much further than RJ, young can remember. Ninety nine years ago. Tulsa was the site of one of the deadliest and most destructive race massacres in US history. I'm Carlos K Hill. Professor and chair of the African African American Studies Department at the University of Oklahoma. Professor Hill has researched what happened in Tulsa in nineteen twenty one. He knows the timeline well. The origins of the race massacre began when Dick Rowland an African American youth. We believe he was approximately eighteen years old. He entered. The Drexel building entered an elevator in which Sarah page on a seventeen year old white girl. Who was the elevator operator? And he entered the elevator and we believe ep may have stepped on her toes made believe because of. Elevators weren't heads as Nice as they are. Today there may have been a jostle. When elevator moved, he bumped into Earth, whatever happened, it startled her, and she ran from the elevator to a nearby business, and told the store owner what had happened store owner, receiving this frantic white girl based on the story that she told him believed that she had been assaulted Dick Role, and ultimately the next day he was arrested by Tulsa police, held at the courthouse, and as rumors of alleged assault began to spread Weitz began to congregate around the jail that. That night there were perhaps hundreds of whites outside the courthouse, clamoring to Lynch, Rowland the African American community got wind. These threats against Dick Rollers Life in the community new DIG Roland knew that he was not capable of what he was being accused of, and so a small contingent, initially a small contingent of African American men went down to the courthouse to offer assistance to the police chief will were one veterans armed and the site of black men, being armed and striding in to this sea of white people with dignity and Whitman Hood. So. It why it's that many of them left the courthouse quint to their home, a went somewhere by got weapon, and came back. The police chief told the small contingent that he would not need their support or assistance to keep the crowd on the control or to protected rolling, and so they were turned back. They came back because. There was a fear that dig rowlands lynching was imminent. I second group return a larger group returned and this time. When they offer their assistance, they were told no, but a white person in the crowd attempts to disarm. One of the African American man who's who is armed a shot is fired in the worst race massacre. One of the.
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"This episode of politics with Amy Walter was taped on Friday. Morning may twenty ninth. It's politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway. It's good to have you with us. We're in the middle of pandemic that has cost more than one hundred thousand Americans their lives. The streets of Minneapolis are filled with anger. Over the death of a black man in police custody and protests are spreading across the country feels living out the WBZ gates poem the Second Coming a poem written a hundred years ago when the world also felt like it was coming apart torn by war and violence and a flu. Pandemic things fall apart center cameras but it also feels like we're trapped in suspended animation. We haven't left our immediate communities and months losing track of days and even months. There's an incredible sameness to our lives. Of course one of the things that continues on is politics more importantly in election. That is now just six months away. Campaigning like everything else in our world now looks different. Many.
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"It's politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway just a reminder folks we're taping the show from my home these days and our guests are joining us from their homes so dogs barking and children popping into rooms. Well you know anything goes we gotta roll with us as you probably heard. There's been a lot of back and forth this week about whether or not lawmakers would come back to Washington on Monday on Friday. I spoke to Erica. Werner Congressional reporter at the Washington Post to find out what to expect for next week. The Senate will be coming back on Monday. May Fourth and the House said at what point earlier this week that they would be coming back On that same date. But they reversed course the next day And said they'd received vise hoyer the majority leader said he received advice from the attending physician at the Capitol that It would be unsafe to gather in large numbers The attending physician as we understand it didn't specifically tell them not to come back but just that there would be risks associated with it there was also pushback from lawmakers who were worried about coming back and as a result. They canceled those plans. Nancy Pelosi indicated at a press conference yesterday on Thursday that perhaps they would be returning the following week so the week of May Eleventh. But that doesn't seem to be set in stone and then there were reports this morning as well that there are not enough test test every senator and certainly not all the staffers that may be there and even if they do test them. It takes a couple of days to get those results back. That's right and Mitch. Mcconnell despite these complicating factors is full. Steam ahead And intent on returning. He's made the point on several occasions that if our essential workers people that work at Grocery Stores Healthcare Workers. Everyone else is working can be out there. That senators should be doing the same but that view is not universally shared among senators particularly Democrats. This is a good transition. Erica into the discussion about bipartisan. Goodwill that I was GONNA ask you bad so it seems can the the lines on coming back or not coming back are dividing along party and now we have another party. Division on Corona virus funding It's been quite remarkable to see Congress pass in a really short amount of time. Bipartisan legislation three tranches of money to battle this this pandemic but they are now hung up on the latest and the issue is on spending for state and local governments. Can you can you give us the latest on? What's going on there? Republicans are turning towards reopening the economy. Saying that that's the best way to stimulate the economy while Democrats remain focused on trying to infuse federal funding into the economy and in particular as you said. Democrats want to send a lot of money to cities and states. Nancy Pelosi yesterday on Thursday cited a one trillion dollar figure which would be five hundred billion. That states have asked for through the National Covers Association and another approximately five hundred billion that municipalities localities counties have asked for Republicans are rejecting that senator. Cornyn call that figure outrageous And they have drawn a red line. Senator McConnell And others on the issue of liability protection for businesses and saying that they will not agree to any funding for state and local governments without including these protections which Democrats in turn have rejected. So it's very unclear. Where a compromise on these issues is going to be found but it seems as if as you pointed out at the end of the day even with the other current a virus bills that they found a way to come to compromise. Not Everybody got exactly what they wanted. But given the deep economic pain that the country's going through that it is more likely than not. That's something happens. Do you agree with that? Yeah there again. There is a consensus that something needs to happen and probably will happen. What it will look like Is Far less clear? Certainly the huge figure that Democrats are starting with for cities and states. it's highly unlikely they're going to get anywhere near that number and it's also unlikely that Republicans will get the very robust liability shield. That they're looking for there's going to have to be some middle ground found on both of those issues and we'll have to see what that's going to look like and then finally. I wanted to ask you about the money. That Congress has appropriated through the small business administration to give out give. These short term loans grants whatever to small businesses. And of course. There's been a great deal reporting about how big companies the Los Angeles Lakers. Ruth's Chris Steak House have somehow ended up with a lot of this money. Many of these folks giving these companies giving that money back. How did this happen? How did Congress not see this coming? And what are they doing about it? Yeah there's been a lot of attention as you say on this program the paycheck protection program That is now funded at around five hundred billion dollars through two different tranches of funding. And if you talk to Republicans and some Democrats. The explanation is that as they created this program in the cares acts that was passed in late. March it came together very quickly and their intent was to make it easy for businesses. To get these forgivable loans and so they wrote the rules in such a way that the money was easy to access that the obligation was on borrowers to self certify Banks not the government were the ones doing the actual lending and as a result there were loopholes that existed and to an extent by design in order to make the money easy to access but that also created a situation where a number of big businesses including the. Lakers of all people were able to get the money so in the second launch which passed a couple of weeks ago and is being burned through very quickly. They did make an effort to direct more of the money to small businesses. And you know. Have a set aside for community lenders that would ensure that smaller minority owned women owned Lesser served areas would be able to tap into the money. They're having special periods of time. Where only smaller businesses can apply. They say that they're having some success. In that regard that the amounts of loans going out the door now with his second trump are smaller amounts to smaller businesses. We haven't had a full accounting. There's very little transparency with this program So we're going to have to kind of see whether they've actually been successful in getting the loans to the small businesses that they want to have them. Who Will Erica? Thank you so much for taking the time to walk us through all this and Good luck please stay safe up there at the capitol. Thank you very much. My pleasure.
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"Contain the spread of the virus. But it's good news in the that eight hundred person difference between the number of confirmed cases and the number of probable actual cases that gap. There means they're probably having moderate symptoms and they're probably not showing up at hospitals seeking treatment so that tells you that the virus is not as bad in mortality wise as e. Bola it's not as deadly as the Ebola virus but it's a lot more transmissible there are parallels between sort of what needs to be done and what some of the experts are urging the administration really strongly to do which is to share expertise. Make everybody aware of the dangers and the threats and therefore how to prepare and how to stay safe But the parallels between how the two administrations are actually acting in response to this outbreak. That's wildly different. Can you talk about the response? This administration is having to corona virus. There's a hospital in Seattle. It's north of thirty cases of the corona virus. Right now and is the epicenter of at least a quarter of the deaths that we've experienced in the United States this is. This is the thing about this outbreak that I'm really worried about the most. We have a healthcare system that doesn't have the capacity to treat more than about nine hundred thousand people at a time in beds and this is why you're hearing more and more epidemiologist talk about flattening the curve when when an epidemic breaks out it can follow one of two paths. It can it can in fact a lot of people really quickly and then in in that case it spikes and then sort of gently recedes or it can infect a lot of people but over a very long period of time. And that's if we practice the social distancing in the washing our hands and cancelled and events and things like that if if a lot of people get sick really soon in a short period of time then the healthcare system can get overwhelmed and a lot of people. Don't get treated. That's what we're seeing Italy right now where doctors are having to triage patients and basically decide who gets the ventilator and who doesn't now that's really scary concept if you're the one who doesn't The but the fact is a lot of people. Were going to get this virus and and it needs to be over the longest possible period of time. Well it seems like another issue here read is. How are we supposed to know? Who is infected? And who's not and the only way to understand that would be with testing and What can you tell us about why we do not have an ability to test people like they do in a place like South Korea their capacity to test on a daily basis is greater than the number of people that that the United States has tested? Overall this is going to be the subject of the congressional hearings and the the the autopsies and the look backs the postmortems that we That we all do after this virus Subsides this is an a-. An unimaginable failure of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It is on them. The World Health Organization had a test that they distributed to and made available to countries like China. Which has tested hundreds of thousands of people and Korea and Italy and everywhere else? This test was available and the United States for some reason decided to come up with their own test and their own test was flawed in some measure but it is a catastrophic failure and one that is going to reverberate for years one that's going to undermine trust in American health institutions. It is mind boggling that this has happened the CDC didn't have its act together when the rest of the world when Third World countries had their act more together than the American CDC. It it truly it makes red and then there's of course the political angle to this and everything else and in an interview this week on fresh air there was healthcare report. Dan Diamond from politico. He implied that president trump didn't push for aggressive testing earlier. Because if you identify more cases than the numbers would be bad. And that's not good for his political standing. What do you make of that? And have you heard or reported on anything similar? So the evidence points to the fact that this administration is trying to keep information about this outbreak. Secret Reuters reported on Thursday that the administration ordered health and human services officials to treat briefings about the virus as if they were top secret Now he's now I mean. Dan's got a really good point there About the the fact that the president himself said that he wanted to keep Patients on a cruise ship instead of in the US so that they quote numbers could stay down This is this is amazingly shortsighted of this president. Although it's a pattern that he repeated over and over he goes for the short sort of shortsighted sugar high rather than the sustained long-term Benefit here I mean a contrast this with President Obama who stood in front of cameras and said look to your bowl of iris out there. We're really we're we're doing all we can about it. And that was the thing that struck me about. Trump's speech by the way is he started out with what they had done and then what the virus was as opposed to what the threat was. And then what the government had was was going to do about it. But this president pursues this short term Shortsighted goal of keeping. The market's up and and winning praise from his his subordinates. Frankly Instead of spreading expertise spreading information leveling with the American people and telling them how to protect themselves. Read Wilson. Thanks so much for coming in and talking with me today you gotta read. Wilson is national correspondent at the hill and author of epidemic Ebola and the global scramble to prevent the next killer outbreak. One more thing for me today. The political reality of the last three and a half years has been one of both chaos and consistency almost every week event or issue or moment looks like it may abandon our current political status or rattle the economy but until now nothing not a government shutdown nor impeachment nor at tempestuous. Tweet had been enough to spook the markets or alter opinions of this president. Meanwhile our media cycle and attention spans have gotten shorter and shorter which only served to lessen their long term repercussions corona virus. However may be are I truly? Disruptive Event in this so-called disruptive era the markets are obviously spooked. The question is how long it will take for consumers to be worried as well and February. A Gallup poll found economic confidence at its highest point in twenty years but a couple of weeks of canceled sporting events school functions and even trips to the local mall will be enough to dammit. And it's likely that the economic impact last longer than even our social distancing lost income in retirement savings can't be made up immediately. The biggest unknown of course is just how long this current crisis will last. Will we be still talking about the Corona Virus? The summer or will. This have been painful but short-lived blip the last four years have taught us to think that there's no such thing as long term consequences but if we have learned anything else over these years. It's that old assumptions we've made even if they're only three years old may not hold in this fast-changing moment. This is even truer when it comes to the personal health safety and economic well-being of millions of people. That's all for us today. The show was produced by Amber Hall. Russia Jacob Jake how it is director and sound designer. Vince Fairchild is our engineer who is our digital editor. David Gable is our administrative assistant and our executive producer is Lee Hill. Thanks so much for listening. This is politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway..
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"This is politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway a time to be honest with one another. We are in a new normal. And we don't know how long it's GonNa last. We have to continue practicing social distancing and if you do not feel well for God's sake stay home in an abundance of caution I am ordering the closure of all K twelve school. Buildings reached a tipping point. Where the spread of this virus demands that we take action. We're getting into a situation where the only analogy his war. The president of the United States said anybody who needs to test can get a test that was not true. It still is not true. We do not have enough. Tests are the tests frankly. The testing has been going very split. If you go to the right agency if you go to the right area you get. The test system is not really here to what we need right now. That is a failing. It is clear to me. At least that we have an administration that is largely incompetent lane cove in nineteen. A foreign virus does not displace accountability for the Misjudgements. That have been taken. President trump has no higher priority than the health and safety of the people of this country. Save it for another day. We can have an answer action review about how we got into this situation. Save it for another day. Stocks posted their worst one day losses in more than thirty years all of the anti championships in all sports. For the winter and spring seasons those will be cancelled as well Sophie Trudeau. The Prime Minister's wife has impact tested positive for Brazilian government official has tested positive for grown a virus and his results come to stays after he spent the evening with. President trump and vice president pence at mar-a-lago. Mr Trump is going to try to spin this but you can't spin death. This is a scary and uncertain time. We're in. We hope that you are safe. We hope you're planning and taking proper precautions. It's also a time when many of us are struggling to balance day to day life. In this new normal of school cancellations shuttered offices Lost Work and travel. And of course there's still a presidential race going on on Friday morning. I sat down with Maya King a reporting fellow at Politico Joel pain a democratic strategist and Ruby Kramer politics reporter at Buzzfeed News Covering Democrats. Here's our conversation we're GONNA start off of course with the current virus. My I want to start with you but everyone else feel free to jump in as well. One of my concerns in these last few years has long been. How does a country as polarized as ours respond to a real crisis and the other day? Usa Today had a poll that showed seventy two percent of Republicans trusted trump on the issue of leading on this issue. Of course just fourteen. Democrats agreed fifty. Six percent of Democrats. Trust the news media just twenty three percent of Republicans do so. How do we possibly go on? Fight a pandemic when we can agree of which sources we trust to tell us. What's what's true and what's not well if a happy medium is at all possible In this current political climate. I think it happens closer to home. I've noticed that in the midst of a lot of political polarization folks are more apt to trust in their local and state officials. I've seen You know much more. Trust placed in governors In the leadership of folks like into Cuomo. Jay inslee these are the people that You know have been able to tap into state resources to declare states of emergency and bring immediate help to folks in really affected areas and that that plays into the level of and then I think it's also going to take time Yesterday this week we'd we noticed that over time more folks as the weakest progressed have gotten closer to understanding the gravity of the situation and of the crisis that that we're facing And so as the stories continue to develop and and people that are trusted in that our public continue to push the message that this is something to be taken seriously. I believe that more folks We'll start to take the precautions that they need to. What do you think Joel These are the moments where coming together matters. But also were competence matters You know President trump has really benefited Up until this point from being the ZIG to everybody zag and from being different and being standout and not following convention and it's moments like these that don't really play in his favor Right now Americans are craving competence confidence. boring stale trusted leadership And this president is incapable of getting out of his way not because he doesn't have the core ability to process information but it seems like because he doesn't have a desire to and I think that's what is is frustrating to a lot of Americans and I do think that those partisans bliss that you highlighted before are GonNa really start to level out because I can tell you When issues hit home like this It starts to transcend politics I've seen polling. That would suggest that seventy eighty percent of Republicans are aware of this issue is concerned about it And so this becomes a test That that does start to transcend politics and it reminds me of two thousand and eight The Barack Obama versus John McCain presidential race when we saw how to candidates had an opportunity to respond to a crisis that was the financial crisis. Obviously that time Barack Obama was kind of a steady hand of leadership and I'm demonstrated how he would lead in crisis. John McCain. God rest his soul Did Not necessarily respond with the same steady cool. Even headedness that a Barack Obama displayed and it did make a difference in how Americans viewed each leader in terms of how they process information. I think president trump is disadvantaged. Right now I don't know of Joe Biden is a crisis guru but I do think that the difference between the two speeches were stark from one day to the next Ruby. You cover the Democratic candidates. And I'm wondering if you can help us understand how they are Dealing in this time Both as Joe pointed out to try to project. The sort of steady calmness but at the same time they're also trying to win the Democratic nomination. How do you balance those things right? I just came back from two weeks on the road with Bernie Sanders and I think we hit something like thirteen states. And by the way we're around crowds of tens twenty thousand people not ideal But I think even over that time over that time period and especially over the last week you saw the candidates themselves realizing how serious this is. I mean Bernie Sanders. Who is a to be clear. Seventy eight year old man with an underlying health condition. I E an at risk patient for the corona virus Sort of laughed off questions from the press for pretty much all week leading up to. I'd say this week Monday when really hit when the stock market really took a tumble And when people started going to self quarantine in the cases were spiking he laughed off questions about how he himself was going to be taking care of of himself in trying to protect his health through all of this and I think at one point we were in Detroit before before the last round of contests and he was like. I'm pretty busy running for president. I don't have time to worry about this. And I think very quickly realized that this was not really something that joke about and just over the last last couple of days you saw both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders give pretty serious addresses on the corona virus on what sorts of precautions should be taken but also how we should respond with regard to healthcare policy. And making sure that everybody has the care that they need especially people who might be affected by not being able to go to work having their kids home from school Not being able to maybe being of going to the doctor to get a test or get testing done or admit themselves into care simply because they don't have insurance amy to Ruby and Maya set as well You know the the way we process these moments are so telling so the president is treating this as a financial crisis which it has become but it is first and foremost a public health crisis and I think that is very revealing about how this president thinks and his entire approach to governing in government And or lack of approach to governing in government That the president does not understand that this cannot be fixed by the Fed Adjusting interest rates or by You know simply bailing companies like sure. There are short term fixes that can help but at the end.
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"Age and citizens of the United States or in any way abridged except for participation in rebellion or other crime the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens Shell Bayer to the whole number of male citizens. Twenty one years of age in such state. I started by asking him what that language mean for states. At the time it was being written. And what does it mean for voting rights today? So this is supposed to be a penalty you you put this amendment exactly in the right context. Where after the civil war trying to make good on what? The North fought the civil war. Four and this is the penalty if a state suppresses voting. It's going to lose representation in the US House of Representatives and in particular it's going to lose a representation of the house. Proportionate to the percentage of those people in State who've lost that right to vote exactly now we know. Of course we move into reconstruction and Jim Crow. And it's pretty clear that the right to vote for many people who had citizenship who were able to vote. It was denied to them. So why did no one raise this one hundred ten word piece and say wait a minute it says in the amendment that you can't do this and if you do following states you should be losing members of your delegation so the idea seems to have been a sound one but it's really under specified the amendment doesn't say who does this? What the standards are how they go about figuring this out either when the suppression occurs how much suppression doesn't even talk about the mechanisms for reducing that That voting in the House so you have the fourteenth amendment getting ratified in eighteen. Sixty eight eight hundred seventy rolls around and just as you say. There's already a bunch of concerns that the fears reflected in this provision Are Indeed being carried out that their suppression of voting and as eighteen seventy brings the ninth census to the United States. There are those in Congress who want to try to make good on this provision and who begin going down the road of trying to gather the information one might need to assess whether this penalty should be applied to some states and it. It doesn't work out People in Congress fight about how to go about it. That's I describe as the last real attempt. Eighteen seventy to try to do something through Congress with this. So if we fast forward to the nineteen sixties and the Voting Rights Act. It does not exactly follow these one hundred head words but the voting rights. That did say they're going to be penalties. Two States for denying the right to vote Of Your citizens so was that a good stand in then for this one hundred and ten word piece of the amendment. It was marching down a road that seemed to be improving until you get to two thirteen and the Supreme Court comes along. Declares unconstitutional the coverage formula of a key section of the voting rights? Act But really what they did was gut that act part of the reason. The Supreme Court gave in two thousand thirteen for saying this provision was no longer needed was look at all this data. We have turn out. We have participation in the process so the voting rights act worked. Did it work though? There were still problems. Voting Rights Act and even the best form of its implementation and enforcement hadn't taken care of the scourge of voting suppression of this country. Indeed even in two thousand thirteen and part of what made that decision so astonishing to too many of us who are concerned by it is that it seemed. We were on the upswing of at least attempts to find new ways to suppress the vote. And what we've seen and what we were already. Seeing in two thousand thirteen were newer tactics. Such as closure of polling places even worse last minute closure of polling places so it would I think be be too rosy Ida of you to look back and say that with the voting rights? Act in full swing swing so to speak all was well. There was still room for putting more pressure on states and this provision. I think could have been that so now. It's been seven years since that decision was handed down. Why have we not seen lawsuits? Brought up referring to the Fourteenth Amendment Clause. I think litigants who've tried in the past a little bit like Congress when tried in the past aren't quite sure what to do with it and courts have not inhospitable to those challenges. The courts have been reluctant. They've found somewhat different reasons. As I mentioned one time it was the voting rights. Act is new. Maybe it will take care of things other times. The courts response have been. You personally. Haven't suffered the harm that would be required to give you what the courts call standing to to proceed with this challenge. Instead it seems that for Citizens ELECTED OFFICIALS. Anyone quite frankly. Who's interested in voter suppression is that they seem to focus specifically maybe on one thing early-voting closing polling places purging voter rolls. Is that what you think? The future will hold then state by state. The current trajectory is as you say it's taking them one by one North Carolina's a great example of this where litigants have gone in challenge. Different things from voter. Id laws state legislature. When they have lost those cases have turned around and said here's a new version. Take us to court. Let's have months of litigation. People have taken them up on that. Invitation they prevailed and the legislature tries again It's important to keep doing that to keep Striking down what's unconstitutional or otherwise unlawful. It's also very time and resource intensive to keep bringing those sorts of suits so there is this and there is the possibility at a minimum of a Congress ordering the executive branch to do the work that it's really never done which is to go out and try to figure out the voting suppression that at least might yield the sort of reduction that this clause had in mind so for now. What does it look like going into? Twenty twenty what are you seeing? As it were in states state legislatures that are addressing this issue of voter suppression. Is One big picture effort going on right now? That's critical because it doesn't just affect voting in twenty twenty but actually affects a whole decade to come and that's the effort to ensure that people do participate in the December census because even though the trump administration failed in its effort to add a citizenship question. That even the Census Bureau said would diminish the bureau's ability to achieve that constitutional goal achieving an actual enumeration. The damage in a sense has been partly done. Just by the push to add. It has made communities wary of something that nobody should be scared. People should see the census as critical to our democracy and that is the foundation. For how seats in the House and therefore votes in the Electoral College are constituted for a whole decade so one big picture. Effort is encouraging participation. No matter what people have heard no matter what fights people have seen Fought over the past months and years. They need to participate in that across communities if they want voting in this country for a decade to come to reflect those communities Josh Belcher. Thank you so much for coming in and talking with me. Thank you for the invitation. Joshua Geller is the executive director and visiting professor of law at Georgetown's Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and protection. That's all for us today. The show was produced by Amber Hall. Andres O'Hara with HELP FROM ALEXANDRA NOT J. Kaushik is director and sound designer. Vince Fairchild Desert Engineer Polly Room Goo is our digital editor. David Gable is our administrative assistant carried. A Barton is our intern and our executive producer is Lee Hill. You can call us anytime at eight. Seven seven eight my take or send us a tweet. I'm at Amy Walter in the show is at the takeaway. Thanks so much for listening. This is politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway..
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"Not that long ago the idea that laws to restrict gun rights would not only pass the Virginia legislature but would also be broadly popular in the Commonwealth was unthinkable. But that's. It's exactly what happened this week. When the Democratic controlled Virginia legislature passed several gun control bills now the conventional wisdom back in the early part of the two thousands was at a Democrat can only only get so far by upsetting the RA? So what changed well in a nutshell. The suburbs as suburban D expanded further into once rural areas of the state issues like gun control have become an asset outta liability to Democrats driving much of a change in support for gun. Restrictions are female suburban voters. Where you're that's going to them now? Everybody has them. My friends told him have been in. Crossfire shootings their lives are just been destroyed. So how the row people are getting all these voters have been a long sought after political commodity and twenty eighteen. Many of them voted for Democrats in once Republican looking strongholds like Orange County California in Atlanta Georgia to get a more nuanced understanding of how these women are processing the gun issue. I traveled to Philadelphia the other week and sat it in on a focus group of white suburban women in Philadelphia. This focus group was conducted by the Anti Gun Violence Group Gifford's founded by former congresswoman. Gabby giffords efforts. I was struck by how they're growing concern for the issue of gun. Safety was also butting up against the reality of their lived experiences. This week. I talked to Peter Ambler. The giffords Ford's executive director to hear how the organization was approaching gun control as a political issue come November. I think you have to start off by understanding. That fundamentally this this issue is about seven years old in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting You know Americans for the first time in decades. You know Were catalyzed allies into outrage over the inaction that their government their political leaders were tolerating on the issue of gun safety over the next Few years after that you know our organization Gabby giffords and the rest of the team at Gifford's work to educate Americans about the the problem of gun violence the fact that it was tied to our week gun laws and the fact that we had we gun laws because Our political system politicians at that time on both sides of the aisle Were being controlled by the NRA and the gun lobby. I think finally early in two thousand eighteen. We brought this idea to market that you know gun. Safety was a political issue. That concerned concerned and frustrated Americans were going to vote on it was GONNA be Elevated in terms of their The the issues that they voted on and it was going to fundamentally decide Races for Congress for State Legislature Senate and hopefully in twenty twenty four president of the United States. Let me zone in a little bit more on this issue because it seems to me that the ground that the issue of gun safety is gaining in and around the suburbs isn't making its way into more rural parts of the state and so we're seeing places like Virginia that it on the one hand is has a democratic legislature. It's an increasingly suburban I state and the legislature now passing a whole slew of gun rights Measures and at the same time you have in the rural stretches of the state all these so-called sanctuary gun cities. So what does it just mean that the issue of guns just more more polarized but that it's still difficult to get legislation passed because has like the country. We're really divided. I don't think we're actually that divided I think if you look at the gun rights protests that you saw in Richmond a couple of weeks ago on Martin Luther King Day of all days You only need to compare that to the the progress that we've made in the legislature in the weeks since the house of delegates voted through seven. Different gun safety bills including universal background checks. Ex- our top policy priority. It's because they fundamentally mandate from the voters for the past four election cycles since the very first days of the giffords organization station we have been investing in the state of Virginia We helped elect Terry McAuliffe and every other statewide elected officials since on the issue of gun safety. We've invested in the House delegates in the state Senate over the years of course including here in two thousand nineteen and that culminated in a powerful powerful election rate. Where not only did we elect gun safety majorities to both chambers of the legislature? But we did it with polling showing. The guns was the most important issue the number one most important issue for all voters in terms of. Where can we Democrats and Republicans? Actually go on the offense on this issue and use it as a sort of cudgel against their opponents who vote against the safety of kids in communities and take contributions from the NRA You you know. That's going to be more salient in more suburban areas. But if you look at the mansion in West Virginia if you look at Jon Tester in Montana UC Democrats who have strong gun. Safety Records Running in winning and more sort of rural states that are Have more conservative politics. I sat in on these focus groups of these white suburban Philadelphia women and one thing that really struck me was how many of them talked about their concern about mass shootings about gun violence but they also had had a really big concern about talking about these issues with the people in their lives and usually they were men their husbands or their dads or their grandparents who had guns and their view was once you start talking about the issue of gun laws gun control these guys instantly. Think I think you're taking away my guns and so when we do that they shut down and the conversation about guns. This is over you know. We picked a pretty tough audience on purpose right. These are voters who are undecided in the presidential contest on they lean moderate and conservative. So they are going to be tough for any issue that runs left left of center to get On board with the particular candidate on a particular issue there were cross-currents in in in that conversation. For the most part you saw The participants dissidents in these groups using our sort of basic message framework using our talking points thinking via the general sort of frame on this issue that Gifford's employees. You had fewer people than you certainly would've had in the past just a few years ago blaming sort of exogenous factors like like mental health or poverty or video games or anything like that for gun violence pointing their finger squarely at our we gun. Laws and the political corruption eruption that the NRA and the gun lobby contributes to. What does this mean for when we think about the two thousand twenty election will twenty twenty is going to be a very very big year for us as you saw in two thousand eighteen We're able to help elect Democrats from coast to coast just in these suburban districts. We beat forty. Nra Back Republican incumbents elected in their place a new Congress and you have two representatives majority with a mandate to take action on a gun safety. They did they pass. Universal background checks and other measures Now we have to complete the ARC And we're GONNA fight to elect a gun safety Senate And we are going to frame a stark choice for Americans Between Donald Trump has stood with the NRA and the gun lobby you and opposed lifesaving gun safety legislation. Despite the fact that kids keep dying in their classrooms in their neighborhoods in their homes with a a positive gun safety vision that comes from whoever the Democratic nominee is Peter Ambler. Thanks so much for coming and talking with me really appreciate it. My pleasure thank you. Peter Ambler is executive director of Gifford's. That's all for us today. The people who make this show. Oh our producers. Patricia Board operator and Engineer Debbie daughtry sound designer and director and all around Cool Guy Jake Howitt digital editor polly room. Google David cable is our executive assistant and finally our fearless leader and senior producer. And we're hall and a special thanks to Lee Hill as well and of course yes you can call us anytime at eight seven seven eight my take percents to tweet. I'm at Amy Walter. The show is at the takeaway. Thanks so much for listening. This is politics with Amy Walter take..
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"Welcome back to politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway at the top of the show we heard from Democratic Strategist Matt Paul. Who ran the Clinton campaign in Iowa in two thousand sixteen? Someone who's run campaigns in Iowa matinees better than almost anyone what voters in the state are looking for just days before the caucuses few win Iowa caucuses in recent history. You have about an eighty percent chance of going on to be the nominee. This will be an when important caucus may be the most important that we've had but the great thing about the caucuses it's fair. It allows for representation of people in rural places in more urban places and provides a fair shot for these candidates come in and make their case and it allows allows voters kicked closer to these candidates and to push them on these issues and push them on their their policies. And I don't I would expect a close night but there's always price just like we've had surprises in this leadership. In this race there could be a surprise on caucus first time when you're talking to folks voters around the state as they're trying to think through who they're going to caucus for is there something that ties all of those undecided voters odors together or is it really that each voter is struggling with something. Different Vic desperately WanNa win chief among their concerns is who can beat the sky in these next number of days. How are they going to make that determination? I've not seen a caucus cycle like this where you have at this late hour. Voters thinking in groups of candidates not necessarily picking their favourite or their their their first or second choice. Were now into a gaggle of candidates Which I think is really interesting? People covering politics and sports like to use the term momentum. Even though it's kind of a hackneyed phrase but there is usually a sense when you go into caucus tonight somebody has this sort of energy behind them and especially when you're talking about getting folks to show up on a freezing cold Monday and stick around for hours. I have enthusiastic support behind. You is important one of the knocks against Joe Biden has been. He's got people's heads doesn't have the heart right. It doesn't have the enthusiasm behind that Buddha judge at least recently had all this energy behind him. Is that what you're seeing a play out here. And how do matters essentially but again because this has been so close these things these the momentum behind these candidates has had a very short shelf life so whereas you know you you WANNA sustain that momentum do it. You can't keep building on that and then get two the endorsements and then get to you know a closing sort of argument here. They're still trying to find areas Of Distinction with the other candidates show. This cycle has been unique in that. We haven't seen the traditional. I'm going to provide a closing argument. That is strong. Crisp and clear that helps motivate my base and turn them out on caucus night. The one last thing. We're noticing now candidates that it's really sharpening either their differences with the other candidates in the race and in some cases. It's getting a little more direct. We have some direct confrontation Shen whether it's Biden and sanders. We obviously have the Sanders and Warren back and forth. How how do voters here? Perceived that there's has been the talk that if somebody goes negative or if they're perceived as being too negative they're going to lose support benefits the person who's outside of that fight you've got to be you've got to be careful with that. The nature of the contrast is really important. It's okay to disagree on the policy. Propose a different worldview but to get nasty does not work. Do you think we're at the getting nasty or do you think this is just sort of typical differences. It says that others this is. This is the pressure of this race hitting these candidates you really in the last year you talk about what happens in the final stretch. It's all about candidate performance. Their organizations are up and running their training. They've trained their volunteers off. The there is a nurse and and continuous momentum in the campaign now. It's what's the news. How does news happen? It happens if the candidate screw up you know alternatively if they have a great moment a unique moment that they're all trying to have right now frankly a viral moment. Then you have attention so I think I went to would expect you to be tough and stand up for your ideas and your your record and your career but they want you to do it In a professional in a professional manner honor not a nasty got. You moment right right to make those distinctions with the people that everybody knows. And so if you're Elizabeth Warren and and you're talking about being female in the race maybe played that she should have played that up earlier. Maybe I thought you know if you walk through there there unique unique advantages one thing I thought she did very well was to drive home. This baseline message of Don't think of me as Harvard. Think of me as Norman Oklahoma and should that have been stronger in the closing. Who knows? We'll find out here but I thought that was a unique unique and powerful distinction that she found early and stayed with it was consistent with probably probably helped her write anything else. We should be thinking about as we go into these last days before the caucuses. I think it's okay okay that it's this close. These are good candidates. They're experienced people. They've built strong organizations. This this is Ben Campaign for the most part that has been absent of major tactical errors certainly of of anything untoward or disingenuous. This is Ben what these have been. Well run campaigns for the most part and those candidates that are still in it from this field of four hundred ninety two people that has been now down to roughly a dozen people. They've run strong organizations organizations. And it's okay that it's close at this point in the early states and I think it's important to think through the the face from the early safe as as as we gear up towards Super Tuesday. The fact remains that Iowa made these candidates better sharpened. Their message improved their organizations and gave some of them a chance to break through and ultimately. That's what I was about that. Paul thank you. Thank you Paul Senior Senior Vice President of cornerstone public affairs. So far this hour. We've been talking all about the Iowa. We'll caucuses on the work and why this date gets to go first now. Not everyone in Iowa thinks the state should remain atop the primary calendar. But let's be honest I wouldn't have a vested interesting going first. We wanted to know how people outside the state field so we asked you. I don't have a problem Iowa. Be First and then New Hampshire. Perhaps the media could stop trying to predict the outcome from the first two so election events. This is Theresa Weaver from Kingfisher Oklahoma. Hi this is Andrea calling for Philadelphia. She's did I will be the first day secaucus. No small overwhelmingly white mid western scape is hardly appropriate bellwether for American twenty twenty accord awards. It never was appropriate but now we can say that out loud and we should high. Every state should have their caucuses primaries. Whatever on the same same day then? The opinions of our states on the west coast would not be marginalized. We in Oregon have vote by mail which works great great. There is absolutely no reason. People in Iowa should have a stronger voice in our government and everyone else. This is Tina from would burn Oregon. This is Max from King of Prussia Pennsylvania. It is my understanding that the caucuses are always in Iowa because of tradition. My question is why why. Why not choosing under represented state each time kind of like the Olympics places. Marianne from Jerry Town caucuses are seriously overrated rated. How do we get out from under this terrible process and in particular the Electoral College? Let's include that as well. So the cursor cursor from Sacramento California. I wish should remain the same for traditional reasons. Just keep doing things the way that we have been I. This is George from Berkley Massachusetts execute. No I don't think Iowa's should be the first state to caucus. I just think that they're nothing like the rest of the country. This is Marianne from tarrytown caucuses seriously overrated. How do we get out from under this terrible process? No I'm thick of my vote. Not Counting for anything. Being the first caller fish should be in states more representative of nationwide demographic like New York California Texas and Illinois Illinois or a different midwest. State should all go I together. This is Cara in Hawthorne New Jersey. We always love to hear from you. You if you want to weigh in you can share your thoughts anytime leave us a message at eight seven seven eight might take or you can tweet. I'm at Amy Walter the show is at the takeaway away from me on caucus night. I'll be in Des Moines and part of the PBS news hour is coverage of the Caucasus. Will be set up at Drake University and aside from doing doing my best to stay warm. There are few things I'll be watching for. Specifically the first is going to win out the head or the heart. Joe Biden is going directly. Ed voters heads with a message that says beating trump is the number one priority for twenty twenty and he believes he's the only candidate who can do this sanders. Meanwhile is aiming aiming for voters hearts telling voters that can and should demand big bold things from leaders the three other candidates in the top tier Buddha Judge Amy Klobuchar Elizabeth Warren are trying to straddle these two poles with a focus on beating trump but also one that stresses Generational Change Gender and Midwestern Grit now normally candidates who pitch electability I e. Vote with your head fall short after all. What gets someone to show up on a cold night? In February is passion not a pragmatism but trump in the prospect of beating. Him May be all the motivation. Voters need to support the so-called practical choice. I'll also be watching. How certain parts of the state vote? A lot of attention will be on eastern Iowa and the counties that hugged the Mississippi River. These blue collar areas flipped from Obama to trump in two thousand sixteen. And I'll be paying close attention to the suburbs around moines. These fast growing areas flipped Democrats in two thousand eighteen and the Freshman Democrat who represents that area recently early endorsed Joe Biden..
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"It's politics with Amy Walter from takeaway and this week as the Senate debated removing President Trump from office this via impeachment. The political calendar loomed in the background. I will feed the world. That's right it's the moment we've all been waiting for the order okay. It's the moment that people like me have been waiting for on Monday night. The race for twenty twenty officially begins in Iowa. They take it very seriously. I mean that's a cliche that you hear a lot from people who are talking about the caucuses but those that are politically engaged. Take it very seriously. There is an excitement and anticipation in the lead up to the caucus. Few Win Iowa caucuses have about an eighty percent chance of going on to be the nominee Iowa population three million. The State is rural and whiter than the average and it sparks debate every cycle. Should this state the first two caucus I personally do not think that we have the best process accusing. It just makes me feel good to know that I were is the leader in terms of off showing the country. WHO's the candidate every single cycle? There are questions as why the heck are we letting Iowa continue to be the first in the nation state and it's not just because I would doesn't reflect the diversity of the nation as a whole but because caucuses are in Archaic Archaic Confusing and messy process and not just for Democrats. Do you remember this moment from two thousand twelve too close to call. That's where things stand in. The Iowa caucuses game game on very hard Iowa. We we also feel. It's been a great victory for us here. Iowa elections officials have reversed course sourced. Additional results had Romney winning by eight votes. Now officials say Santorum top Kim by thirty four votes out of more than one hundred twenty thousand cash now for Democrats would happen here in two thousand sixteen is still fresh people's minds. Hillary Clinton. The favourite to win did ige out a victory. I stand here tonight. Breathing a big sigh of relief. Thank you but a win by three. Tenths of one percentage point wasn't the unquestionable triumph. The establishment expected people of Iowa have sent a very profound message to the political establishment and there were allegations of fraud people we want and that 2016 experience still colors the way a lot of folks. See The caucuses today while we're out in Iowa. Last week I sat down with Matt Paul in his office in Des Moines Matt ran the Clinton in campaign in Iowa in two thousand sixteen and is now a democratic strategist in the state. I asked him to describe what he saw happening on the ground in Iowa back in two thousand sixteen we've seen tremendous movement senator. Sanders had had closed very strong from from Thanksgiving through the new year he continually was making gains we were seeing some erosion but he he was making gains so we knew too late December that we had to. We had to close strong. So you know we got on the phone Brooklyn got more travel got more candidate time. I'm got stronger. Surrogate made some tweaks to the paid Messaging and were able to hang on here very very close very late night but hard-fought it was fair and she was the first woman to win the caucuses. The first then went on to become the first woman to be the nominee. Yeah it seemed to be that the frustration from 2016 certainly on the Bernie Sanders sideways. This process is too opaque and there is a sense from a lot of people who were especially those supporting Bernie Sanders is that maybe the process wasn't that fair. If you look at it. Twenty sixteen where that race started where Senator Sanders was polling polling. Two percent. Then you fast forward to a week before the caucuses where you had a real he had. He had caught up essentially with one of the world's most well known individuals if that isn't fair I don't know what it is. I think Iowa has persevered and has remained. I because we've been willing to take a look at how to improve. The Iowa caucuses houses in one thousand nine seventy two. They were using payphones to call in the results. I think it is fair. I think there that there's example after example of island stepping up to improve the caucus to increase accessibility. We're doing this year to increase transparency. Like we're doing this year with the additional reporting of the initial alignment and the final alignment. How many people are in the room and who were they? Four as well as the state eight delicate equivalent the final result and. I think we have to continue to do that. And be and be strong enough to take these questions and continually find ways to make sure that the caucuses are fair after the two thousand sixteen election the DNC overhauled their nominating process reforms forms were made to everything from how candidates qualify for debates to super delegates. and Yes to the caucuses all with the goal of greater transparency. So what does this mean for Iowa voters orders and the candidates. Were trying to woo them for that. We needed to talk to the expert so we drove to an office across the street from the Des Moines Airport. If it weren't for the Big Blue D sign in front of it. You probably would drive right by the small squad building but when we got there. We found troy price the chair of the Democratic Party. Now before we get to. What's new this year? Let me explain one defining feature of the Caucasus. That hasn't hasn't changed in order to win any delegates a candidate has to hit something called the viability threshold. I know it sounds intimidating emanating right and it kind of is. Here's how this works. Seven o'clock on Monday night. I Would Democrats gather at one of about seventeen hundred precincts across the state. The things like high school gyms church basements community centers soon. They're asked to vote with their feet. One of the Democratic candidates voter stand with a group voters committed to a certain candidate. Then they count. How many people are in each group? If the candidate you choose has fewer than fifteen percent of the total votes in the room. Your candidate is no longer viable. Don't worry you still get another chance to vote. You're given the opportunity to realign with another another candidate or you can remain committed the magic number for viability again. Fifteen percent remember. This is all happening out in the open been in bigger precincts. It's hot and stuffy and loud and public interest it okay. Back Detroit Price. I asked him to walk through some of the changes to how the caucuses will run this year. It's really grassroots. Democracy and action like people we'll campaigns will Have someone that they designate as their precinct. Captain so when you're traveling around the state you'll hear campaign saying hey we need a precinct captain in this area that area and so the precinct. Captain is really that campaigns representative in the room. So when there are after the first alignment people will go into those precinct captains and others will go and try to persuade those who are not Who are in nonviable groups? They're going to go and try to convince them. You know whether that's that's talking about policy whether that's promising them delegates spot to the county convention whether that's You know promising to come over and mow their yard but like it's a real. It's a conversation conversation and I think that's the thing about this process that I think folks don't quite understand first of all these are party meetings. These are not just you know some sort of event that happens happens. These are actually party meetings. We do these every two years. And secondly it's really a it's a community meeting like these are You know neighbors loved loved. Ones friends. all in your neighborhood coming together and having a conversation about who should lead our party. Who should lead Our country and so what issues are most important due to To that neighborhood like I said it's really grassroots democracy in action and It's it's a lot of fun. So who's keeping track of the number of people who are showing up in registering. Those people seems to me that that could also be problematic. It's one thing if you're in a small precinct and fifty people show up. It's another thing. If twelve hundred people show up and trying to keep track of all those so we have voter rolls. We print off the entire list of every registered Democrat in the state and that gets distributed attributed to each precinct register at. You can register their even if you're not registered as a Democrat right now correct. Yeah that's correct. We have same day registration for the caucus process and so But we have you know one of the things that we've been really focused on this year is making sure that these caucuses are most accessible are most transparent. Errand caucuses that we've done. Part of that is making sure that we have A smooth process in the check in process so one of the things. We've done this year. For example apple is we offered early. Check in Folks had to sign up for it by January seventeenth but then they had You know they basically print something often they're able to. It's like a fast pass at like six flags they can just Skip the line get into the Caucasus earlier for But we have been studying and looking and making sure that we have the infrastructure. We need an all of our precinct so we know which precincts are going to be the largest the largest precinct.
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"Welcome back to politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway. We've walked through the details of what transpired over the course of the week. We've talked about the impeachment process assess and the law now. Let's talk about the politics. What are the political implications for Democrats and Republicans for that? I'm joined by Doug Hi Don has held communications positions in the house-senate can the RNC he's also served in the George W Bush administration and as a contributor for CNN. I could be with you and Joel Pain. Joel is the democratic strategist. He worked as an aide to former Senate majority leader Harry Reid and was a senior adviser for Hillary Clinton's two thousand sixteen presidential campaign Joel. Thanks for being in here. Hi Amy thanks for having me so it has been a crazy wild week and the first thing I want to do is to get each of you to just tell us what your main takeaways were from this week Doug. I'll start with you yeah. There are so many that I have that it's very difficult to really come up with one or two. you know the thing I've been telling people. The most is is anybody who's who can tell you exactly what's going to happen is either lying or blindly partisan or both. I think this is going to be a long process and that you're trying to figure out right now. Exactly what's going to happen is going to be a fool's errand. this is a very complicated process. You've got complications on the democratic side. We didn't think we'd be here just a week ago and certainly a lot of complications on the Republican side as well Jill. What about you? What do you you think this this means politically as we go forward while I think politically look Democrats? had to react to the information on the ground. you know Nancy. Pelosi was pretty loathe to do this. it's pretty clear that she was not you know of the belief. That impeachment was the smartest thing politically. I'd actually think if you if you cornered Nancy Pelosi she'd probably still tell you it's not the smartest thing politically but the president's actions here have boxed her Dan and boxed her caucus in and I think she risked losing the faith of the caucus but also the heart and soul of the party if she didn't move here so I think you you know this was something that the speaker was somewhat forced to do but I think that said I think Democrats have a better chance for success with. Let's just say this round of impeachment. PITCHMAN engagement versus the last round of impeachment engagement and I'd say for one reason it's because speed everything has happened so quickly that the hearing with deny McGuire the release of the whistleblower complaint the the release of the memo from the White House these things that over the mullahs report probably would have taken weeks or months. These things all happen really within ninety six hours that really served Democrats benefit in terms of laying out the case Doug. I want to raise that point that judges made about its it may not be the smartest thing to do politically. I talked to a Republican consultant. The other day who said Man Democrats were actually headed a really good direction. We were really worried about twenty twenty and they just basically gave us a gift. They fumbled the ball and and allowed Republicans an opportunity to get back on the offensive. Do you think that's a fair assessment. I think there's truth in that but again. I think it's hard to to really say conclusively that this is this was the right move politically or the wrong move politically this closely into this process. Joel said this has benny very fast week. We didn't think we'd be here a week ago or two weeks ago. We still need to see where some of this is going to play out. I do think there are political opportunities four Republicans here this does fit into trump's kind of worldview. I disagree with this world view but the world view that the government is out to get him and they've always been out to get him having worked in the House of Representatives during the last impeachment process it with Bill Clinton. There was certainly a mindset also of of Republicans Publican's of we're GONNA get Clinton and it became personal in that level. I think we've certainly seen some of that from Democrats as well and that's where there are opportunities unity's there but to say that you know impeachment is great news for this president is not something that I really formal indoors well. That's the question Joel is that this this turns into a partisan circus at puts the focus on Washington and dysfunction instead of Democrats talking about the areas in which they you want the campaign to focus on health care the economy things like that. I think those are all fair points and and I I associate myself herself with with someone what Doug is saying. I think to other things I'd call out. Is this one the people who are going to be the leads for Democrats here actually think Nancy Pelosi has to feel a lot better given the fact that really the efforts are going to be centralized around the intelligence committee. I think chairmanship has been a much better spokesperson in the eyes of many Democrats than some other folks who have been involved in. Let's just say some of the president's misdeeds I think that shift has been very clear about his message. he's got a smaller committee Eddie which in itself when you talk about a public hearing doug and I both know that when you've got less people on the committee it's less speechifying you have to deal with on the floor. and I get the sense that Pelosi is a little bit more comfortable. You know some of the chatter are here on the hill is that maybe she wasn't quite as comfortable with say Chairman Nadler's committee or some of the other committees but she's she's comfortable with the intelligence community and I think that's important when you talk about how you sell a case publicly but I think also we cannot underestimate the fact that Pelosi also has has the majority makers the frontline members the people like Elissa Slatkin representative crow you know some of those moderate Democrats who win those swing districts that that really made the majority for Democrats in two thousand eighteen that op ed that she she got from them. I think that really was obviously you know the the final nail in the coffin often in terms of moving us toward impeachment so a lot of these factors kind of play into Democrats feeling a lot more comfortable. I think she feels like she has a unified caucus and it's easier for for her to sell a message when she has that unify caucus doug very quickly. What do you think the risks are for Republicans for sticking with the president and not breaking breaking ranks well the differences between primary politics in general politics in the primary right now? There's no risk at all in the general. Look at Tom Tillerson North Carolina China. He's He's polling twenty points below letter up for reelection this he's bowling twenty twenty points below the president who's not at a great approval rating about forty two percent percents trump in North Carolina till twenty seven. I think in the last twenty five in the last poll that's a problem for him. In a general INA primary he should be fine. He should be fine by sticking with the president didn't yes yeah so that's the that's Joel. I'm going to come back to you and let's talk about what this could mean for the twenty twenty Democratic nomination obviously the name Joe Biden is mentioned a lot in this Ukraine phone call in the whistle blower complaint. What does it mean for him and his his standing in this primary? It's interesting. This is a really evolving storyline. So you know Biden. Actually I think conventional wisdom might say him being elevated by the president might help him short term term but long term obviously the damaged his reputation. The damage was family's reputation and the narrative that being laid out harmful. I think that's you know entering the the the last. Let's say again the the last five to seven days. That's how I felt now as we look at the fact that Elizabeth Warren is actually gaining momentum. She really won the summer. I think this has has really been a tough two week period for Biden. You've seen Warren really start to build that winning coalition Democrats really feel like she would need in order to win the nomination nomination and you've got Biden who was on the wrong end of this type of public news. I think it really favor someone like Elizabeth Warren and I think it really hurt Joe Biden not because there's any and again I think it's important that we lay this out not because there's any truth to some of the president's.
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"What a week some way so it feels like we've been here before allegations of wrongdoing by president trump what does not reflect is a classic mafia-like shakedown of a foreign leader dramatic hearings. This was not swept under the rug that cannot be an ultimate. She the old against transparency we've seen this movie before chilling effect that he will have on others in governments on hinged and dangerous can I I will say to my colleague standing here. I think you're not calls for impeachment. Impeachment pitchman impeachment impeachment impeachment investigation but it also feels very different aren't the Mueller investigation was complicated with multiple players and angles that were hard to follow the Ukraine story is easy to follow and understand president trump asked foreign leader to investigate a political rival potentially using US military aid as an incentive. The Miller report looked backwards of what happened during the two thousand sixteen campaign pain. This Ukrainian situation is happening in real time but when we really knew that things were different was on Monday night when the Washington Post published an op Ed from seven even Freshman Democrats all of them from GOP leaning districts our lives have been defined by national service. We are not career. Politicians for veterans of the military and of the nation's defense and intelligence agencies are services rooted in the defense of our country on the frontlines of national security. We have devoted our lives to the service and security any of our country and throughout our careers we have sworn oaths to defend the constitution of the United States many times over now we join a unified group group to uphold that oath as we enter uncharted waters and face unprecedented allegations against president trump the voices of representatives additives Abigail Bamberger Elaine Loria and Mikey Cheryl three of the op-ed Co authors reading it for us that op Ed was significant until until now they were hesitant to call for impeachment hearings and that op ED signal the democratic leadership that the tide was indeed turning after closed-door meeting with the Democratic Caucus on Tuesday afternoon soon house speaker Nancy Pelosi made it official. I'm announcing the House of Representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry while the Muller investigation was a two year process process this week things have been happening at lightning speed on Wednesday morning. The White House released a memo of the July twenty fifth call between President Donald Trump and the newly elected elected president of Ukraine furloughed Amir's Alinsky because when they look at the information. It's a joke that same day president trump held a press conference in New New York where he voiced shock at the formal impeachment inquiry impeachment for that when you have a wonderful meeting or you have a wonderful phone conversation and on Thursday in unclassified version of the whistle blowers complaint was released not long before Joseph Maguire the acting director of national intelligence appeared before the House intelligence this committee I am not familiar with any prior instances where a whistleblower complaint touched on such complicated and sensitive issues including executive executive privilege. I believe this matter is unprecedented. So what does it all mean. Where do we go from here? What are the political implications heading into twenty twenty? Those are some of the questions we'll tackle this week on politics with Amy Walter from the Takeaway.
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"It's politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway this week. We're we're coming to you. From the motor. City Detroit Michigan the city hosted the latest round of Democratic Debates Twenty candidates their campaign staff hundreds of reporters protesters at least one goat descended on the city. Why Detroit because Michigan Donald Trump on Monday was named the winner in Michigan the last eight to be awarded in the presidential election? WE'LL DONALD TRUMP's pathway to the White House into winning Michigan narrowly by thirteen thousand votes started in mccomb county. Donald Trump was certified the winner in Michigan by more than ten thousand votes clearly clearly Michigan has kind of become ground zero for.
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"It's politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway, when it comes to elections, there's always a key voting bloc that gets the media attention. You know, if candidate x wins fill in the blank vote that when the election, we've heard that about the Latino vote. Oh, well, when the election, three weeks from now, the outcome could depend on. How members of one very large constituency respond to the urgent call Vogta, the white working class with the general election in mind. Hillary Clinton is on a two day swing through Appalachia trying to connect with rural white working class voters. Appalachia coal has taken a huge hit and suburban women. Women white and educated experts say they hold.
DC and the Twitter echo chamber
"For spending too much time in DC absorbed in our Twitter. Bubbles voters were telling us the story of this election. But we weren't listening to them three years later, Washington DC and the Twitter echo chambers are obsessed with talk of impeachment and Russia, and yet that's not what voters presidential candidates are talking about in the states, my sense from listening to voters myself am to the reporters who are on the ground covering them is that democratic voters are more pragmatic than prescriptive the grassroots demand for congress to start impeachment. Just doesn't seem to be there. I should Trump win reelection. I'd expect that pragmatism to give way to all out panic and pushback that may change, but for now, we should take the lesson of two thousand sixteen to heart and stop trying to make the narrative fit neatly into a box. We've already prebuilt the race for twenty twenty has. A long way to go. The best way to understand where it's headed is to watch it unfold at its own pace, not the one being set by cable. Thanks so much for listening. This is
"amy walter" Discussed on The Takeaway
"This is the takeaway, I'm Amy Walter. Thanks for being with us feels like a couple of years now, but it's been less than two weeks since the mid term election ended the story now are in our that's recounts and recriminations. In florida. The writing was on the wall from the very beginning. Take listen to Adam Smith, political editor of the Tampa Bay times talking on the show the week before the election. The great thing about Florida's. These races are always so close. Tens of thousands of boats could make the difference. There are unlimited numbers of people to blame for for losses and wins and we've been doing Florida ever since the two thousand election, and the echoes of two thousand can be heard loudly Santa announces that we call Florida in the Al Gore column Bamba standby CNN bright now is moving our earlier declaration of Florida back to the too close to call column. Eastern time. C N, declares George walkner. Bush has won Florida's. We all know how that story ended final decision from the supreme court seven justices of this court seven justices here agrees that there are constitution comes with the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court. They're saying it's unconstitutional effectively ending it here since then Florida ditch the voting machines. So no, more hanging chads. Once again, the state has found itself in an electoral meth on Thursday by three pm all counties had to submit their machine. Recount to counties fell short of the deadline and Broward County missed the deadline by who minutes when a worker failed to upload the results in time. The process of uploading took seventeen minutes, the worker started the upload a two forty five pm. From Democrats the line has been count all the votes. I'm simply asking that every single vote. That was legally cast accounted. They're trying to shut down the election because they're afraid of the consequences. If they don't another word a Nelson victory every vote should be counted. Republicans say the prolonged process is Kintu fraud. I mean, it looks like they're doing everything they can still this election. The reason why election lawyers get involved to make sure as many votes as possible for their client is counted. And as many votes as possible for their opponent is disqualified, President Trump wait in during daily caller interview saying without evidence that illegal voters, quote, go to their car put on a different hat put on a different shirt come in and vote again, unquote. So where does all this rhetoric about elections being stolen leave the public's confidence in the process? Before the weekend. I spoke with David smiley political reporter at the Miami Herald about what is wrong with Florida w t f what the Florida Florida's electorate is really split. And that's why we're overtime of the elections process. Top of the ticket races have over the last three cycles been decided by one point or less in elections where six million in this year. Eight million people have voted and under our state laws when the results are within a half of a percentage point, which they work for three races this year for statewide races goes to this insane recount process, which obviously made Ford the butt of jokes eighteen years ago and seems to be doing the same thing again. I guess the good news is it looks like we may be nearing the end of the process. Unlike the. Two thousand elections which happened under no real statewide guidance for what to do in recount situations and kind of went on a lawsuit by lawsuit basis this time around because of that election. We have laws guiding the process, I guess fingers crossed knock on wood. Maybe we'll be done in a couple of days, but they're going to be some more legal decisions coming to see whether that's going to be the case or not. So after the two thousand election tobacco changes were made that you're saying have actually made this process more efficient than it would have been had we seen Florida. Follow the rules, pre two thousand. Yeah. I don't know if they've made it more efficient, but they've at least created deadlines to operate and have a sense of when things have to be done by. So I think we know that the recount process has been chaotic, it's certainly. Exposed flaws or inaccuracies to some extent in some of the counting process under elections departments which are all under a magnifying glass and in south Florida where the Tri county area of Palm Beach county, Broward County and Miami date has more than two million people casting votes..
Recriminations fly over fire that tore through 200-year-old museum
"And, in Brazil a huge fire destroyed the country's two hundred year, old national museum in Rio de Janeiro overnight fire Fighters museum workers struggled to save. Some of the twenty million artifacts they included relics from ancient Egypt, and Greece and the oldest human skull, found in the western hemisphere it's. A, loss for the world this can never be recovered for the. People the, building there's no way to get it back thankfully no one died but the loss can never be recovered there was no word on how the fire started firefighters efforts. Were slowed because to nearby fire hydrants didn't,
U.S. accuses Russian spies of 2016 election hacking, summit looms
"President trump launches diplomatic warfare with america's closest allies the president could have walked into brussels and had a peaceful no drama summit but trump decided to blow up the summit and threaten to leave and it ruined it putin would like to see the liberal world order fall apart spent the last couple years sucking up to latimer putin trying to understand the president's endgame in europe and on the world stage i'm amy walter and this is the takeaway also this hour a look at young voters and if they'll turn out in the midterm elections we haven't really seen this level of attention to teenagers and very young new voters in recent memories is specially during midterm we'll everyone starts off aggressive when they're young and then becomes conservative when they get older we've got lots to get to on the show the takeaways right back after these headlines mmhmm live from npr news in washington i'm lakshmi singh twelve more russians are under indictment for allegedly attempting to disrupt this country's presidential election in two thousand sixteen just days before president trump summit with russian leader vladimir putin special counsel robert mueller's team is out with an eleven count indictment it includes charges of hacking the computer systems of the dnc and other organizations the theft of information belonging to half a million us voters and money laundering and his announcement today the justice department sepe the attorney general rod rosenstein detail the offenses i use a scheme notice spearfishing which involves sending misleading email messages and tricking the users into disclosing their passwords and security information second the defendants hacked into computer networks and installed malicious software allow them to spy on users and capture key strokes take screen shots and exfiltrated or remove data from those computers rosenstein rosenstein says the indictment does not include an allegation that russia succeeded in influencing the twenty sixteen vote he announced the charges as president trump was in the uk having tea with the queen earlier the president held a series of meetings with british prime minister theresa may he walked back his comments critical comments from an interview he gave to the british tabloid the sun in which he was critical of maize negotiations on brexit joint news conference larry miller reports president emphasize at the two countries could hardly be closer much emphasis was on the president's monday meeting in finland with russia's vladimir putin he says he'll talk to putin about ukraine syria nuclear arms reduction and ask again if russia meddled in the us election i don't think you'll have any gee i did it i did it you got me there won't be a perry mason here i don't think but you never know what happens right but i will absolutely firmly asked the question trump says that after nato countries agreed to up their military spending he goes into the meeting with putin in a position of strength that's larry miller reporting a us inspector general has concluded that former trump administration cabinet member tom price wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on travel and other expenses during short time period he spent on the job here's npr's don gonyea tom price.