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120 Amy Rose Capetta & Cori McCarthy

What Book Hooked You?

40:42 min | 1 year ago

120 Amy Rose Capetta & Cori McCarthy

"This is what cook you? I'm Brock Shelley. And thanks for listening on this road. It's very special. This is the first up soda in which I have to authors on one single episode talking about a book that they have written together. I'm talking about Corey McCarthy and Amy euros Petta whose book once and future comes out on March twenty six it's an a theory retelling that flips the genders it's in-space Merlin's a teenager. And this was a lot of fun. I was very nervous at my interviewing skills a having two guests on at the same time. But I think it worked out great. They were great guests the have for this. And I hope you'll agree. So listen. So Korean Amy rose. Thank you both for joining me. What book hooked you? I know you have different answers. So we'll start with Amy rose. What book have you chosen the book that I chose pay for two reasons, and it's never any story. And I picked that book because it's the first book I remember living with I know that I read before that. I know it was all ready interesting when I found that book, but that's the first book carry with the everywhere like it was my little baby. It was always under my arm in second or third grade. And I just I had it with wall pot became part of my being in that. Became kind of a symbiotic relationship between the in books for a really long time. But that's the first time. I remember having that and I carried it around for a couple of weeks or possibly longer, and I remember loving the I was really hooked by the testicle world of that story. I was really drawn into it. I wanted to live there. I wanted part of it. And I also remember loving the book as object. I had one of those really beautiful copies that was bound in red cloth. And it had the Aren symbol the Arabas in sort of made into the cover. So you could sort of trace it, and it was printed in two different color inks printed in red green for the different parts of the story. And I just so many little magical uniform details about that book that made it such a special object to me and special experie-. Silence. And so that was definitely the first book that I read that. I felt the oh this magic in imagine. I wanna be a part of with. Was one where you may be sold movie. I, and that's how you got introduced to the book or was it something special where you actually got to experience the book? I and have that story as being the story initially. I know that I read the book, I definitely saw the movie later and enjoyed it. But I know that I read the book I because I remember really connecting with a character fashion in the book, and he was not very popular at school, and he had these problems, and he was just there were just things about him that I really connected with and those things did translate into the movie, but I remember watching the movie and being like, oh, he's cute. Little Hollywood kid. And. I there isn't there is an outsider nece to the the main character in the book that I remember really really deeply connecting to. And then when I saw the movie I was like, oh, this is a fun version, and or is amazing, and and the rock the rock eaters, this who puppet in southern reports of it that I just loved and. Welcome in child. Like, I would I got the little necklace. But in my head pretended to be the childlike empress after the movie. So the reports of that that stuck with me. But I definitely read the book I had that really strong initial connection there. So I think that one that's great. So what is the pivotal book for you? Then. I'm so I'm about to get real nerdy of my book is the Lord of the rings. And you know, what in particular the fellowship of the ring not not to hate the other two books. But that one was stuck with me. The most the reason that I picked the fellowship of the ring it just kind of jumped out and people ask what book cooked, you I am mmediately think toll keen on. And I think of my dad reading the book to me and my two older brothers. I was the first time. I heard it read aloud I was about six years old. And I don't remember anything other than gully was a little frog in my mind. I was really young. I I was my dad would woodland my brother's bed with one of my brothers on either side of him, and I would sit on top of his back and play with my little ponies and GI Joes and listen to the story, and I don't actually remember enjoying any parts of the book. I remember enjoying the community of having that story rental out to me. And then when I was in high school, I reread it and was absolutely love with it in. I I had the privilege of reading it before the movies came out. But what? But after the movies had been announced. So I was looking up pictures of Malaysia addresses Frodo, and I was reading the book, and I was looking pictures a ribbon del, you know, the releases that they were they were that Peter Jackson was sending out and I had this incredibly visual experience with this book. And I loved it. I do have a funny story that I have to tell because if by brother lists of Evan if you're listening to this podcast. I will tell the story and that is because I hadn't remembered anything that happened in the original reading when I got to a certain moment. Win a certain main character is dead for because of a certain large spider. I was so upset that I threw the book across the room. I woke up my parents, I told them I hated my brother because he had been the one who told me to read the book nab, I was so mad I called. He was in college. I called my leftist ranting message on his answering machine about how horrible he made me read this book. I was so in love with rodeo, and he was dead amend the next morning. My mother calls me, and he just doesn't even say Hello. I answered the phone. He goes did you finish the page yet? And I go there pick up the bookwork thrown in across the room in a finished page note. Sam like put photo was. Isn't dead. Oh my God. And that is how into Lord of the rings. I was about moment later on about too fast forward about six or seven years on. I was on. I had two degrees in writing and screenwriting and in poetry at. I knew that I wanted to write for a living, and I couldn't seem to find a way to make money doing it. And I remember having this conversation with a friend, and there were some what book would you wish you could write? And I said well Lord of the rings, of course. And this friend said, you know, that's it's pretty much young adult. Do you know about young adult, and I actually didn't an not even a month later. I was enrolled at school at Vermont college of fine arts to study writing for children now adults and it was all because of Lord of the rings. That's great wonderful. So Corey it sounds like books, you know, even in when you were young. Plated unimportant role in your life. As far as being an active reader, Amy rose was at the same with with you that when you were a young person that even if you know school activities and different things of of with being growing up sometimes books fall from the wayside. But did they still have a role in your life when you were a teenager? Oh, yeah. I was reading constantly when I was a teenager. And I. Hi was always reading scifi fantasy at that age. And I I was reading a lot of Khurana get Hans I was really into that. When I was maybe a junior in high school, Anna, remember, lots of different things. But that was that's limit just sticks out because I actually got a chance to meet him. And not only did I get to meet him when I was in high school. I was in an acting workshop with Kurt Vonnegut youngest daughter. And so I I've done a monologue on and I was for the monologue. I was playing waitress on rollerblades. So if done a monologue in the news on rollerblades, and then Kirmani was there. So. Verse acting ever done in my life. He was there. And then I had to ride down in an elevator with afterwards in be cool. Be cool. Don't tell volley Getty's good biter. He knows he knows. He's curve on me in my head. Like all this stuff is happening. But I just had I had to go back to high school on Monday and act like everything was normal. When my so much of my life was just around these books around caring so much. And you know, I'd go to school in a half, read Hemingway. I would us. Trudged through the books that I had for school. But I had this really great on English teacher. Miss carby, always always checked in with me. She knew that. I was like just doing the rating for class because I had to. But she knew that. I was also reading a lot on the side. Should always check in with me and ask what that was what I was reading. She Newell as to which really impressed it at age because I thought like, you know, there are some teachers who, you know, love their their topics that are real way they go so far beyond what's being taught in class in. She was just able to like fire back. She always knew exactly what I was talking about in the authors that I loved Kazan. Okay. Will you read this one? But have you'd like you'd like Margaret out with both you have to go find that end. So that helped me a lot sort of keep that that love of reading alive at a time when it could've altered a little bit great. So with both of you with books being such important part of your life growing up win for each of you. Did it come apparent that? You kind of got the writing bug, or at least to the point where writing was going to be something that you did. As an adult professionally. I never really had another. I I never really had another backup or very obvious auction at any point, which I think is a little odd. Because of a lot of people sort of set out there career that they think they're going to do and they just keep getting pulled back to writing. I always always wanted to be a writer. It took me time to figure out what kind of writer. I was I wanted most wanted to be inconsiderate how to make that into some kind of career. And I so when I was in middle school in high school, I write these novels in composition of books, and I would just stack them up in. So it would be one novel, but it would be like four composition of books. They were always fantasy always just most hackneyed awful. Never lot of varies and things. Now, the fairies are hackneyed an awful. But I was just sort of doing the thing that you do you retell the things you love. But just like you move in slightly the left. NFL a bad place to start at all as a writer. But I was just I was just having fun. And it was just for me. I did I didn't worry about having to be good. But I knew that I wanted to write keep writing find some way to make this work. So I in college I was in theater arts program, and I really love theater. So I thought we love theory love writing you should be a playwright that makes so much logical sense in in my head at the time. It did minute. Turned out angrily hate writing place. Logic kind of window. Are parts of clarity. I love I still love theater. I'm of the collaborative ager of it. And that's one thing that I've sort of found me back to is all the different ways that you collaborate on writing a story on the work with your editor that you were your agent you work sometimes with a co writer like to with oranges so much fun. And I love the collaborative nature theater. But I didn't actually like writing place for did some screenwriting in trying that and it wasn't quite working. I kind of just circled all the way back around to writing the kinds of stories that I had in my notebooks has a middle school and high school. So the things that you're doing when you're that age, they really can be the thing that you end up focusing on that love really can become, you know, your your career you commit life out of that. But I think that it took me a while to realize that there was a whole field that I could work in. I could commit to that central big way. Not just put it in my head like blues, the stories you wrote when you were in high school, you know, there's in my head. I was doing. Thing where blocked off as like, let's what you did. That's what you did that you have to do something you have to do something different. Now, you have to find a career in turns out that the career was looking for it with the exact thing I've been doing, you know, in that notebook when I was fifteen so pretty pretty exciting. And so then Corey for you, how did you come to have the drive to be a writer? I discovered writing in eighth grade. I had a a very special English teacher who was paying attention to me. And notice that I was very depressed. And I have I was so disillusioned with schoolwork on a MiG it individual, which is a no gift, especially when it comes to public education. And I had really really started doing the minimum to get by. And no one had noticed for years in this teacher, put leaves of grass by what women in front of me. And I mean to be honest, he tried several others. He tried Emily Dickinson. I am I that one across the room not to hurt any Emily Dixon fans out there. I just I I am wo Whitman a person's ruins through and reading free verse starting to write my. Own poetry opened up. It made me want to communicate with my teachers with my Emily with my peers in a way in which I hadn't. So I went from the person who was not talking all day long at school in wearing all black in hiding behind my hair to writing short stories about my grandfather's death that you know, were memoir short stories and passing them around. People is raided him give me feedback that turned into a love of writing that never shifted. I was blessed to have parents who told me that I could go to college for creative writing. They never questioned what I would do with that degree. They just said, you know, what if that's what you want? That's what you wanna do. You will make it work. I came out of that degree my bachelors in creative writing sorta working at a liquor store like you do with a bachelor's. Creative writing which is actually one of the best places to work. If you're a writer, you meet the most interesting characters, and at that point, you know, I had wanted to be kind of Billy Collins and realize that even Billy Collins doesn't really get to be Billy Collins. He has gone around and give lectures to make money. I then decided I was going to go to UCLA go into screenwriting, and I did a a one year degree in that at that point. I wanted to be Wes Anderson turns out already as a west Anderson. And and he's really good at it. And then that writing like I was saying earlier with Lord of the rings with talking to someone in saying I love the catcher in the rye. I love Jane Eyre. I love Lord ranks with all these things have in common their their deeply personal coming of age stories. They're exciting, and they're not afraid, you know, they're not afraid to. A young at heart in their imagination. And those are the stories I wanted to write and that sort of everything crystallized, but like a new rose, I never really had an alternate plan. It did take three writing degrees and many many years. I also did not have the courage to send my workout to be read by publishing professionals until I was fifteen years into writing. So that that can be a big hurdle for a lot of writers. I think. Well, it all paid off for both of you the drive and and your dream. We'll call it. Because you have a new book that you wrote together once and future that comes out on March twenty six. So who wants to tell me what this book is about? Amy rose does. This look is about. Once and future is about Ari who is a teenage girl and also the forty second reincarnation of king. Arthur she is the first girl in the lineage and she lives in the far future. So the story sentenced space is a space fantasy and she quickly encounters Merlin who if you know, you're Arthur canon has finally aged backwards to the point that he is now a teenager, and he is not happy about it. So together, the two of them have to find the rest of the nights to fill up a story in a half to face the big bad of the universe at the moment. Which is a very scary corporation and figure out what needs to be own in a new age, and that is once future. And so what was? The initial idea for this book and to write it together. Those are two very different things. Because the initial idea came from Corey and Corey would talk about writing girl King Arthur for years, and we would talk about all the books we wanted. It would tap right? At the end. I would say they write that one who ride that one for me. Just so I read it. I mean, you could write it in that would be great because I really wanna read that. So I like to say that I found my way into this pressure. So Corey what was it about? This are Therion retailing that had been kind of rolling around in your head for so long. I don't actually remember a time before I wanted to see a girl king. Arthur it just seemed like a natural progression for me because every year almost every year, we get a new movie or TV show or book and that fills out the arthurian canon in makes it interesting in opens it up to new people. And I thought at some point somebody will write girl king. Arthur any never happened waiting for like JK Rawling to do it. You know? A murals can send you should do what you should do it. And I was like, you know, stepping into the I've read so many King Arthur books that have spanned many, you know, many many decades if not centuries of different Retailing's and different imaginings. I really enjoy how the different authors can tell the same story completely differently. And I think I think we were having a very very important heart to heart about what story we wanted to write. We do this every couple of months to kind of keep our heads in our careers. Any murals was pressing me in saying you knew you really should right girl King, Arthur, and I just I looked at her and was like, I will do it. If you will write it with me, and I had a first chapter I had been sitting on a first chapter like a mama hen for a long long long time. And so I gave it to. Her that, she just wrote a second chapter, and it was in Merlin's point of view. And all of a sudden, the book was funny, and it was fun. I don't know. I think I had been kind of pulled into the darker King Arthur cannon for too long. She reminded me that we could write this in the vein of the once and future king, which is fun. I mean, it's playful, it's it's resistance literature. But it is also got jokes in it and silliness, and that is that is what ended up becoming the book that is coming out into weeks, which is very very, exciting and scary and wonderful. And so because in the drill you each have published several books kind of, you know, had your own maybe method was it a any type of relearning process to collaborate like this on the same story. Not really because we edit each other's books heavily. I think almost all of our books. We have ahead done at least one if not many editing rounds on before they were acquired or after they were acquired a publisher. So the one. The one thing that kind of became a different process. We each wrote one point of view character in the first draft and then for all subsequent drafts we revised by ourselves. So we did not use track changes which scares the Jesus out of people. So I would go in aim euros is beautiful chapter that she wrote an I would just shoot for continuity and make sure that it matched the momentum of the chapter before it. And then she would do the same thing to my chapters, and it is only occasionally painful most of the time. It's I opening I actually think it's kind of a relief to know that somebody has your back agree end will always be looking at because because you can kind of look at the larger story when it's not the chatter that you spend so much time writing it's easier. Not to get stuck in the little details of it. And then you. I can think of it in that bigger way. Like, the more you read it in the more the more you're able to see the story as as its own coherence. And we got some really good advice about co writing. Which is that you can't think of it as a book that he should be was writing part of. And you can't even think of it as it was you can't think of it. So this was catton's is a conversation. I had with on author, Cathy Appelt. She she said to me, you can't think of it as as your book or as the collective book leg, it's our book. You can't think of it as our book, you have to think that the book belongs to itself, actually think this helped a lot with putting our toes into the King Arthur cannon, which was very intimidating. But we just knew that some of the characters were writing we were borrowing from history, and literature and other things we were adding bringing from ourselves, but the book always belonged to itself. So we were always like look book were making you better. It's going to be okay. NA should stay here that a Muros, and I a really really open to changing each other's pages. In words, the only time like I she will she or I will change entire endings outcomes of scenes. The only time we have to very carefully look at. Each other. And be like, I'm sorry. But I need to cut this joke. I some very good joke. I am. So I apologize. If you're good jokes. Will remember? Will write a whole scene where we can maybe work it back in somewhere. You know? That's that's the only that's the only time where it's like really we have to be we have to be careful with 'cause we do love our jokes. So. Having gone gone through this process because it seems like the it was so easy because you're so close to one another any others work with editing each other know, each other's voice and things like that. Would you ever venture to collaborate in any way, shape or form on a book with someone other than the two of you? I don't know if it would do a straight up co writing project with somebody else like this. I've done collaborative writing in other forms really enjoyed it. I was part of cereal box, which is a company that does serialized fiction may online platform, and they do it's like it's almost like TV episodes into the writers for that. So it's a lot like the TV writer's room, and that's group of lake for four or five writers rigging on a season of content. And so that was like I can imagine doing things like that. But I don't know as far as just a just a pair of writers. We also have so many things that we'd like to do together. It's hard to imagine meeting. Another co writer of point, and we are so deep into each other's process in our word at the time. He started writing together, I think it's hard. When people ask me for advice about finding related ca writer, and I'm like, I have such a a cheat on that Michael writer lit slickly. And we we already right? Folks, together, even before we were official co authors. We were we were writing together in a very real way. So I think that the main thing I would say to people who want to try that are interested in co writing is that you have to find someone where you're not. Maybe try working on each other's storms. Earth's maybe try like just swapping inex- general really used to working together as beta readers, an have that relationship established before you would even think of writing something together will already see your balance in for Korean yet were together all the time we're couple, but also we also have really really on different strengths writers. And I think that helps a lot because there are certain things that we know to just trust the other one couriers really amazing on structure. And so, and I've actually learned a lot in terms of enjoying structuring my stories from the way that Corey does the purchase the whole thing. And so I started to get the point where I like structuring my books, but when we we get together we go, right? There's a lot where I'll just be like. And then could you just make the next three chapters like have a structure that be cool. I trust you to do that. And so I think there's something about knowing that you don't you always have a voice in the story. But you don't always have to have a fifty fifty percent voice in every single piece of the story because it might not always work. It might not always split exactly down the middle that way for every every piece of it. You know? And so wasn't future. We'll have a sequel was that kind of a given just the epic world of art theater in legend. It was just kind of a given that that will take place or was it through kind of the readiness. I one that it became apparent. We into the end of the book and something bonkers happened. And we realized that it required a whole other story. Well, we're both. We're you know, we're both teachers were both freelance editors in one of the first things we always tell people is when you want to write a series, then you need to write a very good standalone. And we broke that rule shamelessly with this book, we put it out on submission with this last chapter who I won't spoil anything. But everything takes a serious turn in another direction in the very very last chapter. And we just put it out there. And we thought you know, if let's see if we get lucky, and we did get lucky in that. There is more than one publisher interested in this book. And when there's more than one publisher interested, they they bid each other up both in the amount of advance that they're willing to give the authors, and how many books they're willing to commit to the series. So we were able to get a two book locked in deal for the first book. A now we are in the process of writing sequel, which is called the sword in the stars. And it is a beast of a sequel. Yup. And because you're individually writers, but you're under the same roof. Are you constantly sharing? Even you know, ugly. I stress with each other are there times where you kind of need to hold something to yourself before. You're ready to let anyone else. See it. I think we don't really we're not very protective about early works. That were co writing at this point Amy rose is very aware when I'm like this is rough. You you you it will get better, you know, that it will get better. But with our solo projects aim euros has a book coming out in two months called the lost coast coming up from candle wig. And I have not yet read it, which is sounding. If you've never happened before we always read multiple drafts upon drafts of each others were end. This was just a combination of the timing end everything that was happening. You're working on once in teacher at the same time in all these different things. And I just kept holding it back and say just wait until the next draft. Just wait and Cannock his is getting better a mental show you announce gonna be book, and I definitely get to be the first person to. She gave she gave me the arc. She said wait for the arc or the galley in you can read it. And then she gave me the, and then she took it back that no actually changed some more things and. We version of the at story is the same. But there were few things that really really mattered tonight that I it's an interesting thing because I think that a lot of readers don't know how much folks still change between the advance copies and the ones that actually end up on the shelf. It's very rare that, you know, huge pot was will change or huge care to. There's a reason that writers spent so much time on those last little Brown's in just making everything comes together in just the right way. Also, just making sure that all the pieces are, you know, the ones that really should should be in the finished words of the book. So yeah, we had but different than what's. Finish obsolete. That actually is a really good thing to bring up for for raiders who are used to are used to getting arcs. And having that be the only experience with the book, I put up a post, a boomerang post of the hundreds and hundreds of sticky notes that I had stuck into the arc to make changes into the novel. And I think it was re tweeted in view over ten thousand times because a lot of people they think that we push commas around between arc and the finished copy. When in fact, we change a lot of the line level, and it's all cosmetic and yet. It's very important. I am at least for someone like me. I'm the kind of reader where I will read the first page, and if my brain snags on the particular grammar or voice of the writer, I can't keep reading I'm very picky. And so, and I will be the first person to tell you. That there are like four snags on the first page the once future arc that. I would not have gotten past though, not there anymore. Copy. So if you like the arc we highly suggest the connote the actual book of it's got better writing in it. I just think any said like you mentioned it as like a cosmetic change for the thing is like those changes may seem so small, but all you have in a book to build an entire world and story instead of characters place is is the word they're using. Yup. To find the right ones the right combinations. On one of the things that I was loved about fantasy as a reader is that when the when the writers find those right combinations of words, in that voice that just feels like it's almost like a spell. That's like Castro brew that. You're just being carried away by that. By that feeling comes. It comes out to those words for interesting won't let's one down here. And we'll do the the the lightning round esque questions that I always ask everyone. We'll go back and forth. The first one dean, what is your favorite movie that's based on a book? So Amy rose will start with you. House-moving moving castle. I love the book by Diana Wynne Jones. It's a classic. Middle grade fantasy is funny end end end. Big-hearted and strange in all of the great things that I love for fantasy to be. And then seeing the animated out of adaptation, by Misaki, the stories actually, very different is one of the most different adaptations that I've seen from one version to the other and yet bee's bureau of the story is so much in the adaptation and every translation that's been made works. Phil mclean. Wait at some of the things in the book might not have have translated. He found ways to to bring a story to life in a very different medium in. Also, I think which between Diana Wynne Jones, the izaak you just have to artists who are at the absolute top of their day making something that is extremely magical and beautiful into different mediums. So it's very cool to see this sort of conversation between their brains, but the definitely a popular one among runners, so Corey what would be yours right away. I thought of the fellowship of. The ring, but that seemed to obvious so I'm gonna change my answer to I I for similar reasons the arrows brought up I appreciate the hunger games movies because I didn't like books on. I didn't like the books for reasons that were it's not that they didn't like the books. I did not emotionally engage with the books. I felt no feelings while I was reading them, which is very disturbing. When you think about what you're reading in the hunger games in the movies. I felt feelings, and I think it's largely because we had a more three dimensional look at the world of I can't remember the name of the country PanAm, and there was and and Jennifer Lawrence who's who who may be like catnip. I didn't think that was we're going to be possible. So I so I will say that just because it felt it felt like a felt like the movies decoded something that was blocked to me in the. Books. All right. So next question. Is there a book or a series, you're willing to admit you've either never read or never finished? So Corey we'll start with you on this one. I have never read Percy Jackson books. Okay. Yeah. I I don't even know what to say. I've read the first page of the first one, and it was good. I just didn't keep reading. So who knows why? They're they're one of those where I have a son who is addicted to all things record. And so he's definitely a disciple. So you may get pulled. Eventually down the few years. I can I can be worn down. Definitely. So Amy rose. What about you? Okay. So the obvious answer is twilight when it out to me recently that there are some people who like to save they've never been twilight as a badge of honor like air somehow morally superior is they never read zero to me. It's just I didn't get pulled in views. But I'm really hard sell on empire. Shalit's was not about myself because my older sister drying up loved vampires is anything vampires she would be immediately into it. So I think it's interesting to just like be aware. What kind of books are more your fresh hold is lower and your threshold is higher. So for me, it's just like my vampires is really high. But I believe that there's a book out there that could. An have watched Buffy. I would like to provide balance to that. Right. Yeah. No. Yeah. The balance to that is that I have read to violate and I read all the books in one weekend. And I don't know what kind of badge that is. I am not a hard sell on fan Pires if they are vampires. I'm in. That's great. And then the final question. What is the last great book that you've read? April's go first. Yes. Okay. Well, I just finished reading on death prefers blondes is by Kayla. Greg in it's a heist novel at it's also kind of murder mystery. And it has this really really awesome cast of queer characters and. Drag queens, doing Heison like that sounds like very flashy in exciting, which it is accepted also has such for character development. The end you get pulled into the lives of all of these characters in u m. He searched really care about them in the writing is just so sharpened fun. Inquiry. What about you? On the last book. I read was which boy by Molly knocks. I can't. Author. I thank you. Yes. That book we my socks off on. It was it was just beautiful and exciting and different. And it was talking about things that I have not seen any books talk about as openly or honestly and analyst leave that little carrot dangling there for anybody read which. It's a graphic novel to should let you know. Well, Corey navy rose once and future comes out on March the twenty six and I wish both of you. And this book all the best. Thank you so much. That doesn't for this episode. I wanna thank Cory McCarthy and Amy Lescot panel for joining me. They were both great and their book once and future. Sounds like a great one comes out on March twenty six I hope you'll check it out if you're into king. Arthur you're into Retailing's you're into space. Epochs sounds like it'd be a book for you. Hope you also check out some of our other episodes with why authors, I'm Brock, Shirley. And until next time keep reading.

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Disreputable Debutantes with Amy Rose Bennett

"<music> welcome to ride with love. I'm you heist. Sarah williams selling author speaker and creative entrepreneur each week. I checked too passionate conspiring olefins janey in creative writing some are traditionally published some do it themselves. Everyone's janney is different and everyone has something interesting to say. We all love love and love will be today's show is brought to you by our amazing fans and supporters unpatriotic. If you'd i'd like to help support the shot and get some awesome bonus episodes very to patriotic dot com forward slash. Sarah williams author to learn more now now. He is today's show. Get i get a i'm sarah williams. Thanks for joining me fit episode nine of right with love. I'm recording this on friday. Thirtieth breath of august two thousand nineteen and july. I attended the roy means writers of america national conference in new york city. It was is incredible. I sat in on some great workshops and listen to some very talented o._j.'s. I also had some networking events and meetings to eighteen and i'm thrilled to to say i have some big names agreed to come on the shy. I'm sitting up how chat so you'll have to stay tuned for those after that. My husband and i flew across to the the u._k. Because really when you flown that far what's a few more hours. Plus kids had a great city looking after them. We had a couple of days site saying staying in london then it was off to scotland where we visited everything and anything to do with harry potter and atlanta. Yes we saw lally brock in in castle yoke. She's ticket my social media for lots of fighters including may trying to get through the standings stein's of course we also visited colombian which was initial official for me is my a._n._c. is out there and i saw the exact spot where they fell of course. It wasn't all fun. We actually did a heck of a lot of research while in scotland i've had a historic who saga growing in the back of my mind and being there really inspired me so i've come back with pages with of nights and people i can contact with with more questions later. I do have at least three move oaks to finish before i officially started this so don't get too excited. Theo is in full plane rides likes. I touched down and melvin and dive straightened to the romance writers of stralia. Its annual conference. I presented into the workshop on podcasting in the pros and cons of doing it then. I was on a panel chatting about oceana at streams of income which was really interesting. Then i got back recovered from j. leg and has spent the last two weeks in recording studio with my audio book narrator miles pilot recording the next to me thirty eight books in the breakfast station series now editing audio fouls for those two books the sky brady association and the legacies of brigadier station and so they should be out in about a month. Oh say maine while i just put up the priroda for christmas at brigadier station which will release on november. Twenty-seventh is a print aimed apec. You can preorder that online now also out in a book on team. I fist is my latest. Multi author boxed set from serenade publishing. This time of teamed up with fellow ozzy's lisa by is seems been set in cities and kiss the digital. Only boxy is available on all the platforms including epochs google play code by amazon one of the other awesome platforms. It's only nine thousand nine scenes and we'll be available for a limited time. If you love australian rural rimington's than you will love these is fooling. Were all stories. My base selling novel the sky. I've amrried station is included in the same. I have eh one spot left on my new russia's trace which spang held on the beach from the eighteenth to the twenty first of october. You can stay the whole weekend or visit for life. You like will the infos on my website in september miles pohlad nyah doing some book signings signings in workshops around brisbane and the gold coast. The date house is also on my website and spots are filling up really quick said and now shout shout out to jody. Gibson has just become a go patron supporter of the shy j._d. Is the debut author of the memories we hide dealing with complexities friendships love depression and the consequences of sacred and split-second decisions the memories we hide as a compelling story exploring memories convoys be trusted but how they cancel you free that's available everywhere now and if you're an author who would like to sponsor all get a shoutout on the shy seemed email to me sarah at serenade publishing dot com we'll we'll become a patron at patriotair dot com forward slash sarah williams author for more information right. It's time for the interview today on talking <unk> old things regency and scottish historical with the very busy amy rose peanut enjoy the shy and i'll see you next week and welcome to write with love today on the show on jetting to amy rights bennett inch. Thanks for joining me today. Thank you for helping me no worries up wanted you on the show for a long time and finally managed to nihil you down uh-huh i would like to tell us about yourself and your jany two publications so far or at always well. I might just start off with the basics. I've been happily married for twenty six years and i have <hes> my husband i have two daughters who are all grown growing up and have left harms empty nester as of a couple of weeks ago <hes> what else about me for took about writing up to cook love to travel i love to tomato and obese lay by books so tell us about when you face started in writing and became a couple stools is well. I am i right story romance and that's always been a <unk> since o.'s very young <hes>. I'd i read jane when i was in primary school and i think i understood half of it that from that point on. I just knew that that's what i wanted to do but it took me quite a few years actually to to knuckle down and actually i put is to the grindstone and actually get my facebook greeson. Sorry i yeah i i was a speech pathologist for twenty years and had my family and then in two thousand twelve. I decided routes. I started about eight years before dash. I'd written a couple of chapters go. I'm just gonna rot his book so took six months so of speech pathologist and the spoken to the end abed it was november two thousand twelve and i just went. What do do i do next like. I have no idea about publishing. I don't know who to submit it to sir. I joined by matt scott as a stray and <hes> i think it was about a week lifted guard it into the emerald award for unpublished manuscripts. Sorry i i joined. I entered and volunteer at came second so that was cold. <hes> at the time capturing the master strapping so it's a scottish <hes> jacobite rebellion roy mats it like atlanta. <hes> is our time travel but it's the same period of history and <hes> get it just been working on my my riding my craft since <hes> that i sort of went through rounds of mesa meeting pitching at the next few years got rejected addicted about two times but wouldn't get up in the meantime i will serve started writing some of the uk's and <hes> in two thousand and fourteen <hes> my fist regency romance cold <hes> lady beecham's proposal <hes> it got picked up by a small press so that's why i became officially published yeah and then maastricht benefits lego picked up my skate publishing in two thousand and victim and came out in two thousand sixteen so yeah i write regency and scottish historic calls and i'm a hybrid published author sir. You're off to mindy publish titles and done traditionally published as well so what was it. They pulled you into writing historic. Who's not quite contain pareo spoon this. It's fascinating may i didn't i just as i mentioned since childhood. I always loved <hes> story said in the past. I studied history at high school and i i just <hes> for me. That's my fantasy world. Yeah <hes> it's it's not like the every day and and i particularly loved the the regency area eero because of <hes> all the <hes> well the fashions like i love the clothes at the women wear you know the minute the sexy britches i. I love that they was <hes>. That was the you know. The polio wars were happening. There's a lot of social change <hes> and it was also a period buried where people started to able to marry for love not just <hes> the nobility. You know prior to that. It was very much about <hes> uh-huh marrying fool <hes> you know improving your family's most in life third marrying film condition and for money and that was still important than but he could actually mary flow as well sorry that intrigues me yeah yeah. That's cool so <hes> yeah we talk about how you traditionally end indie self-published and you've got about full series on the go at the moment say that rescue ask you pretty busy. Oh yes it does and i feel a little bit guilty. Some of my m my readers who have been waiting for so the next book to come out in one particular series <hes> yeah because i'm i'm sort of divided. I am yes. I am had them sort of coming. Juden dreads at the moment that's going to be on break defied steering bit tom yeah i've got my schedulers regency. Would i series which is so published goes. <hes> lady beecham's proposal and the ice touches <hes> <hes> they've been out for a few years now but i'm working on the third book sorry <hes> <hes> that will be coming out mixture <hes> by got some self published roxy regency novellas or if you like books on the spicy assigned went <hes> yeah there's an improper proposition improper governors and they had to say this and then <hes> yeah. I've got my traditionally published books. I got two titles with skype. Publishing which <hes> monster stretch ends in two thousand eighteen ahead on the laid back book come out and then i've also got <hes> a three book series coming out. We beckley sexually fist books. Come out <hes> it's cold had to catch a viscount and yet it's it's. It's a regency series. You know luckily can you. Can you tell us a little bit more about that so we can <hes> we can ghetto canes. Go out and buy weekly sorry. All this series is the fifth spoke in a series. It's called the disreputable debutante. Sorry it's about the group of young women who <hes> at the beginning of the book the first book they're attending a young ladies academy and and <hes> they decide to have. I guess it's a modern day equivalent of adorn party. Sorry they <hes> <hes> a drinking some brandy and smoking working cigarette lawyers and looking at <hes> account of another word for it pictures books because one of the friends decides that they they need to know what been really like walks and that he will be naive when they going into the to the marriage mile an each night walked like hells roles and and made at the time of probably looking for sorry <hes> yet i get sprung and then they get expelled sorry they've got these ruined reputation and so they have to think of other ways <hes> about how they going to to fund they love matches because they went beating invited to balls anymore and of yes i basically series flory's <hes> the journeys of of each of my heroines in the first book the heroine's dinosaur she right swell and she's a m quite a shy young woman <hes> families in a bit of financial straits and there's a lot a lot of pressure from the family to make a good marriage <hes> so they don't lose their family property <hes> and her stepfather's pressuring her to marry a a <hes> a naive but that here's a dictator. Sorry is really important for her to to get out of that situation <hes> and complicating that is she's got. I am a huge crush on her friend's older brother so he's the wicked viscounts so he's the hero story and <hes> yes focuses is on sophie and night <hes> friend's older brother and how they find the heck neighbor after lonzo my couch torreta its recently ed released so it's everywhere and pay for that and book. Yes yes and it's also going to be all is outing audiard's. Sorry that's familiar exhausting. Sorry thrilled about this this booking audio congratulations. She's into audio so yea now. I you have written <hes> they scottish historical as well and <hes> i recently come back from scotland and i'm about to write my very faced historical remains and this is basically the fittest time i'm admitting to this. This is put gas in the may. It's a i'm a huge fan. Ainley speed my spare time. We're outlay was trying to find. Jamie didn't find him but i i would love to talk to you about doing the research and stuff like i was there in my family is from scotland and i did visit my families the council glare gareth akasa which was stunning <hes> but i'm still very early days in writing this writing this historic remain so tell tell me about your crisis in your racers like. Did you have to do a whole bunch in the beginning and now you kind of know so much say you're not having to do as much research such make like that. I've been reading <hes> strand historic romance years and years. I mean that's it's my go-to genre. I'd i'd a little bit of contemporary and and crime suspense fiction but most of what i read is <hes> historical riots are <hes> you know <hes> <hes> absorbed a loss of he straight and and i guess would have a bit of word culture of the time. The periods are rushing but that's not to say. I'm not learning new things all the time light. Whenever i sit down to sit down to write a book <hes> i'm very much a plotter out <hes> yet if they say issue with <hes> an inheritance <hes> <hes> <hes> if there's <hes> by scottish story calls you know i had to know a fair bit about the jacobite rebellion and the battle of claudia in and <hes> yellow read up on those particular on topics <hes> this all sorry. I'm a a lot that's <hes> i yeah i make sure i'm correct with the <hes> the language that i use are <hes> historic story cool <hes> romance fans of a very savvy about how people spoke back then are i'm always looking at the dictionary okay and um resources like the on land online etymology dictionary gosh that's had to say to to check the phrases in the words that i'm using <hes> where actually used used time in an anachronistic <hes> yet you don't want your language to sound to motor and <hes> yeah that's something that i'm always doing yeah and yet researching researching the fashions of the time <hes> the the social moi's <hes> titles can be a on quite tricky tongs of the nobility. 'cause i rise <hes> about the aristocracy <hes> yeah you there are so many things that <hes> that you do need to shake like even now on a double check with toddlers. Write my books <hes> but i love doing it or yeah. Ah i read signs at least some particular websites that you found actually accurate eight a good places for people to go to when they went awry historical. Gosh a lot of 'em really semi old. Is that i'd buy do do blogs about particular have blog posts about particular topics. <hes> you probably have the mesa think of particular <hes> like an own fiction title that i can <hes> <hes> recommend off the top of my head <hes>. I'm i am <hes>. I network with a load of this as well sartor. <hes> you know if there's something that particularly stuck on i need to find a primary source all all <hes> we asked questions like can you recommend a particular resource. Sorry yet it's also i'm very much case. If sometimes you don't the dark noise sorry it is good to to read as widely as you can nonfiction and fiction sources as well yeah. I'm just at the very early stages where that helps at all yeah. It's very early and i'm just i've got save an idea and it's like oh my god by how how do they dress. How did they bother and when i was roommates ride is in new york the american conference few weeks agai. I and they were doing costumes and <hes> there were putting on the bus melissa things oh my god. This is so my hey there will be some you can even find like <hes> she twirls how women dressed christian <hes> eighteenth century clydes and you can say <hes> gave women showing you put on a._m. Or the petty carts and the is and and the petting zoo donate skirts and yet the oldest <hes> our window when i first started out sorry i'm getting these days is much easier to find out <hes> yeah those oval really important well. I'd love if he could tell us more about your book. The lead of black clark because like you're saying that is said just after claughton into claude not had family he fought and collado sites to which is funny. Tell us more about that book in in the story story line for it looks conway star rating it thank you yes. The land of blacklock is <hes> the story about <hes> will hear his name's alex and he force <hes> for uh when he prints charlie so on the losing side sorry <hes> he's family wanted <hes> astute king on the throne. Sorry <hes> if you're in atlanta you probably get all that background but i boy you too much but basically his family picks the losing side and <hes> this rival clan who <hes> headlands that adjoin his who are on the winning side sorry the hanoverian side and <hes> these clans have been <hes> <hes> sort of at loggerheads folk for centuries and <hes> they part of the campbell clan the rival clan and they take advantage of the situation and and basically <hes> when alex's arriving after the battle to make sure his his family is our k- <hes> the the rival clan <hes> is decimating his castle and his family suffers and he basically loses everything sorry at the beginning of the book we have oh alex her's been warranted. He's lost everything and <hes> he he's basically on the ron from the british and he bows to take vengeance against <hes> alcon the m a he's the earl of taipei <hes> sorry sorry in taken years <hes> down the track <hes> alex has chosen eleusis and he's he's made a lot of money and <hes> he uses his <hes> <hes> money to to set about ruining malcolm campbell <hes> the irritate and <hes> one of the <hes> thinks he's found out is malcolm is in dire straits financially a bit the rest of society doesn't nar and <hes> malcolm's plan to <hes> to his situation is to marry a rich air as sarah sarah lambert who's the heroine <hes> and what el- expense to do is escorted dark book at the beginning alex plans to kidnap up sarah. Sir malcolm can't marry her and come into this windfall of money so that's basically the setup for the book. I'll take it a long title. Explain it but some yes sir alex takes sarah and then i'm sorry what are you working on now. Okay <hes> at the moment. I think i mentioned earlier. I'm headway through writing <hes> a milestone suitable countess which she's <hes> the third book in my so so published skinless regency widow series and i hope that will be out middle of nick steel. I'm also rising a <hes> pirates novella for boxing. That's coming out in january. That's going to be called the lady in the privateer. That's saints in the regency era sorry <music>. I'm never written a pirate story before that's a fun during the research and then in <hes> april next year <hes> the second book in my berkeley disreputable debbie taught series <hes>. It's called how to catch an errand earl. It's coming. At least i on the twenty eight the viper. I think yeah slant just seen a draft cover for that and it's gorgeous about that too brilliant well. We can we find you online and have a look cover reveals in the other books that you've out yeah well. I've got my website which is any roy's bennett. Dot com sorry inclined final book stare and i'm on facebook and twitter and good grades and i have amazon is on overpaid so the usual places you you find office hanging out there brilliant well. Thank you so much for joining me today and <hes> hopefully we haven't had you too many technical on <hes> the yeah. I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thanks for joining me today. I hope repeal enjoined the shy jump onto my website. Sarah williams author dot com. Enjoy my mailing list to receive a free preview of my books and lots of other inspiration. If he liked the shy and wanted to continue you can become a sponsor. Just a couple of dole is a month guaranteed patron dot com forward slash sarah williams theft breath and remembers of polite me on facebook twitter and instagram and get to subscribe to my youtube channel and labor of you of the podcast. We'll be back next week with another loved up yep aside by.

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RHV 46: Food Sovereignty

The Rural Health Voice

29:41 min | 3 d ago

RHV 46: Food Sovereignty

"The world health voice episode forty six food sovereignty. Welcome to the world health voice. I am connor your host. We discussed row health issues at the grassroots level and how state and federal policies play out and our local communities. Why don't we grow more of our own food. Amy rose full founder of the virginia. Free farm joined me to discuss. How they are assuring that virginians have access to healthy food. So welcome amy rose. Hi thanks for having me. I really am thankful for the opportunity that to edify your listeners about the problems surrounding food insecurity share and so looking at your website and you have yourself listed as food. Sovereignty advocate and founder. I know what a founder is. What's a food. sovereignty advocate. So are we are a nonprofit that centers around providing free food. But that's not all we do. We actually our measure of success is getting people independent from us. We not only provide people with free food in the interim but we actually will provide livestock in the form of chickens ducks plants. We've grown thousands of plans to give away. We give away hundreds and hundreds of seed packets every year to anyone who needs them to grow. And then in the meantime we will provide them with free. Fresh high quality nutritious food because a lot of times when you go food bank you are going to be given highly processed hyper palatable food which at least it's food. I'm not saying that anyone or anything needs to be knocked for giving away those things. I don't want anything to go to waste. I don't want anyone to go hungry. But it's not invest interest a lot of times of the people that are receiving those foods those food items tennessee. -sarily be given low quality. Low nutrition foods that will contribute to high cholesterol. High blood pressure diabetes et cetera. What we really want to do is we want to get people. Food sovereign get them growing their own food gets them consuming more high quality nutritious food with their future health in mind and making sure that they have the ability to do these things. We offer education all of these free items because our end goal is to get people independent and not need us we. This is actually the first year we have had success with that and had people we call them for their pickups and they said. We don't have too much gardner. We have too many eggs. We don't need you anymore. That's our success. So that's where the food sovereignty piece comes in for us. And i think it's really the most important thing i saw that you could buy the website but i didn't see anywhere i could buy food. Are you giving away all of the food you grow. We do we give away thousands of pounds of food every year. Everything completely free. You can buy hot sauce. It's just like a fundraiser. Nothing serious but we really don't sell any of the food that That we produced one of the things that we've talked about on this podcast before is the fact that many rural positions ruled jobs role employment. Don't have your traditional employers such as agriculture that provides traditional benefits such as health insurance. And that's you know. I think we're a lot of the struggle comes from his. Is the things that we tend to take for. Granted will be paid through. Our employer are not covered in those rural small cell phone businesses. Oh yes absolutely. And another thing. That i've noticed We have we have some employers in the area that have obviously been infected by covid. We've all been affected by covid but some of their employees are undocumented. The a lot of them have families and children here and so a large base of The people that we serve are those undocumented workers because they not only do they not qualify for say unemployment or snap anything like that they also have healthcare and during a pandemic. It's kind of important that we're all taking care of so. I can't imagine not only. Is there the risk physical health. But there's also the risk mental health and stress from all of that which is a huge problem there. So going back to the free farm if i if you're not selling your products how are you funding the work we're five. Oh one c three nonprofit. We do take donations online. We have a patriot on account where different levels of incentives from us. We are all volunteer. We have robust team of volunteer leaders. A really great board. That i couldn't do any of this. Without honestly they keep me going and then we'd just have individual and some corporate sponsors the rv agriculture. You can find more information from argue agriculture dot. Org so she has Set it up so when you shop on her online farmer's market for pickup you can i want to say i'm saying this in air quotes purchase. Ten twenty five fifty pounds of food and that is all donated to cares. Which i believe is both the food pantry and the meals on wheels. So we will do like. We're doing this weekend. We're processing chickens this weekend. So we'll have about one hundred chickens ready to go for next week and they are vacuum sealed hole here but those dollars from the donors that purchased through her site actually support us being able to feed those chickens. They support a very small percentage. Ends up going to Rv great because she takes care of other farmers in the area and then it also supports a third nonprofit which is gucci cares in their meals on wheels program So it's wonderful. It's a really great opportunity for people to be able to support three nonprofits in one fell swoop and it keeps us going our chickens. We actually don't purchase so we have. We have a bunch of amazing other farmers in the area. I want to say there are rooster roundup crew. And so they regularly will round up birds from the fredericksburg area. Mechanicsville out in cumberland county That area pick up all the birds and bring all the unwanted roosters to us and so then they are housed here for a short period of time until they can be processed for donation. So that's a huge help. That actually came to us as an idea from a local organic inspector. That happens to live down the road and it was a brilliant idea. So it's been a great source of neat for the community because we feed about five hundred fifty folks a month and that number has been ever growing. So what inspired you to start the free farm. The first thing that comes to mind is why not. I have the ability to so i feel like it's something i have to do. I really honestly have no other answer for that question. I feel like because i'm a mother. It makes the world around us better by taking care of these people. Someone that's hungary is not gonna perform well at work or school. They're going to college. What have you i want. I want to leave the community better for my kids and by that i want all of the community to be better. Now you're talking about you know. Hungry kids not being able to learn. I see a bunch of pictures of cute kids on your website. What are you doing with them. So we actually have a volunteers. Come every saturday and wednesday and children are always welcome. There's tons of things for kids to in it's really great to be out in nature touching and learning and playing then. It teaches children to get their hands in the dirt. It's fascinating to watch. How excited they get about learning and growing one of the things that we do is offer children's classes Into anybody that that wants them. Some of those The pictures they are on our website a have to do with Organizations that take care of at risk youth and it has been absolutely fascinating keeping in touch with some of those children's parents because all the kids get to go home with seeds. It's been great watching them on. Facebook grow their gardens from the seeds that we produce and give away freely every year. And i really enjoy knowing that the kids will get excited about eating those vegetables and hopefully not to be cliche that plants the seed in them to want to grow further and keep doing it in their life. I think that's a great cliche for this. That and like people that grow their own food are less likely to waste it and we have a horrific food waste problem in the united states as well between forty and sixty percent of all produce produced in the united states gets thrown away that is staggering especially when there are people that are hungry. Absolutely nothing else is on. Your website was a tribal garden project. What's that all about. Yes so we have partnered with both the monica. In india nation and the rapahannock tribe as well as the richmond indigenous society and part of this project is another. I know keep brain back that buzzword of food sovereignty it is a food sovereignty initiative to get them traditional foods both for themselves and possibly the community. I know that the monacans are interested in supplying their own community. Food pantry with high quality culturally appropriate food and really kind of reimagining. What you consider food. Because so i'm native american. My i am an enrolled member of the sovereign nation of coys cokie. Dan and while. I am a transplant to virginia. The virginia indian community has really embraced me as one of their own. And it's been amazing but a lot of the natives here have lost their language their culture and really their food culture and it's it can be very empowering to a person to really try to reclaim those things and reconnect with their ancestors through. That food is a great way in. Gardening is a great way to To teach language that has been lost before it is completely extinct. And i think that is so important and that is that is has been installed in downtown richmond actually in north side and a free community garden to all that want to come by. And i believe there's about fifteen tribes that are represented by the richmond indigenous society from all over north america and central america. And it's really great re resource for the diaspora that now are what we call a city indians to really get together and find find like brother and sisterhood and support one another in that. Journey of reclaiming culture reclaiming foods and that reminds me that a few years ago i was Being interviewed on the radio and talking about near the health problems in rural communities. And i had made the comment that you know. It's many many row. People don't have access to good food and that was part of what contributed to their health problems and the radio actually mocked me and said that a rural people don't have access to good food. It's because they're too lazy to grow themselves Which which really put me off. But why do you think Moreau people don't grow their own food. I think that unfortunately that is now the perception of a lot of people that live in the country and farming change drastically for the last hundred years. It's scaled bigger and bigger and unfortunately those farms that grandma used to have the kitchen garden. And what have you that doesn't exist anymore. And it's a very tech heavy chemical heavy commercial ag. I think a lot of it has evolved to these subsidy crops. The growing thousand acres of corn. And you don't have time to grow for yourself. You are as a farmer are just as reliant on the grocery store as everyone else and i think that's where a lot of it comes from because agriculture has changed so much and i feel lake. The subsidy program at its inception was great. But i think it's persistence is either. I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion. I'm not sure that it's persistence. Is either necessary or prudent for how things are going. I mean when you think about it it has almost. It has distorted the americans view of what foods should be. What food should cost We're used to going to the grocery store and getting you know cheap ground beef. You know the When i think of it. I think those tubes of ground beef you know what. I'm talking about from walmart. So the tubes of ground beef and all those many processed corn products they're dirt cheap. Yes but i think that a lot of people don't realize that their taxes are actually paying for the part that you're not seeing retail in the grocery store and they're generally not very healthy for you these choices and they are artificially low because the government is subsidizing. All of these things and they need them to go. They need to be sold. It doesn't make any sense when the price of corn is less than the cost of production and everyone else is paying for it. We're not just paying for it in our taxes. We're paying for it in our healthcare costs as well because all of these unhealthy foods are really damaging us at their core. And i don't think real people are too lazy. I think that a lot of I think that a lot of this change in agriculture has brought this about it's manifesting itself in ways like our life expectancy being lower for this generation and the previous the first time for the first time ever believe that's like the current stats because of our health problems in with that a term. I hear being thrown around a lot when it comes to food. Security and rural areas is the concept of quote food deserts. What's your take on that term and what it means to our rural communities. Oh man i live in a place where it's pretty far like. We have to drive a significant distance to go to a grocery store with a lot of fresh produce thankfully. I don't do that because we do grow a lot of our food here. It definitely does happen in rural virginia. One of the things that i have been tapped to do is the so. I'm working with the department of agriculture. And the virginia department of agriculture is actively trying to address this. And they're trying to do really great way. The twenty twenty. Virginia general assembly has set aside. One point two million dollars to address not only the food deserts in virginia but also the the disparity the economic disparity for about the bipasha community in virginia and so virginia has mapped out the food desert areas and those are being prioritized And i'm talking about like the closest thing for me. If i wanted to go grocery shopping. I guess you could consider this a food There is a gas station few miles down the road. But that's about it. And i have a great selection of malt liquors and Chips and instant noodles and maybe some process cheese. But i mean you're not gonna find fresh low fat dairy there. You're not going to find a single green item at all. They do have some Some french fries and hamburgers cheeseburgers. Things like that but there's literally nothing to sustain human life that is it remotely considered healthy by saint individual and there's a ton of communities around here like that and i think a lot of i mean the old gas stations that might still be functioning on back roads in virginia a lot of them. Their food is the same and i understand from a retail perspective. That shelf stable food is a less lower risk than having something on your shelf. That's going to spoil so. I'm not knocking the retailers at all in any way shape or form but i guess that's why our solution for the quote unquote food sovereignty or solving this this problem of Food desert just to get people growing for themselves now. The virginia department of agriculture has actually set aside this money to work with bipasha retailers and farmers that the trying to get the farmers that can sell directly to people but also retailers that will source fresh food from local farmers and sell in areas that are considered Considered food deserts with an eye towards both bridging the wealth gap for black hispanic and in indigenous farmers and retailers but also helping to bridge the health gap to that has been perpetuated from generation to generation because of the system that is set up or that has become an unfortunately things. Don't change very fast i. It's like turning the titanic. Because everyone's so afraid of change and i understand that i don't like change either. I don't think a lot of people normally like change. But i think we need to kind of not fear this sort of change because in the end we see how how broken the system is. I really think that if we can institute these changes then we can grow back to something better than what we were before. That's better for everybody. One of my first guests on the podcast was a minister who is working to encourage churches to grow food in the church property to ensure that people have access to healthy. Food other other initiatives. Like that that you're aware of there are it's fantastic. We actually provide Seeds and plants to these people and it more of as my heart so good. So a gordon's bill. Could you consider gordon's rural. Close ninety town gordon's villes like a bustling metropolis compared to where i live. So i'm really not sure whether my perception of rural isn't necessarily the most accurate perception of rural but so gordon's ville has I believe the organizations called feed my sheep. They've come down to pick up seeds from us and there's an organization called. Rv food justice. I realized this richmond is a metropolitan area. But one of their members has gotten faith community baptist church and i believe saint saint stephen's to grow Plants for community use which is really awesome. Sure there's other ones out there. Those are just the few that we've picked up and partnered with this year and been able to provide hundreds of plants and seeds and it's been so great watching them on social media as they grow and feed the community we feed about five hundred and fifty people every month. I have no idea how many other people we indirectly feed by getting all of those little fingers out into the community installing gardens and providing seeds several community gardens at community health centers and free clinics around the state And there's some farmers markets. Though the one i go to in blacksburg police ones. They accept food stamps and farmers market. And sometimes even you know double the the amount of the food stamps of your food stamp is supposed birth worth one dollars. I'll make it worth two dollars. Through some special initiatives they have to think is a fabulous way to to make sure everyone has access so as a former nurse what you see from that perspective as the connection between food sovereignty and health. Oh man where to start. I mean all of the obvious things with having to do with the diabetes. High blood pressure high cholesterol. That is really literally killing us. So i have an interesting perspective and it has to do more with Well not necessarily just desperate Choices that are made by people that are food insecure. Sometimes they're bad choices. Because of like i was touching on the subsidized foods that maybe have a low retail pro price point but we pay for on the back end through taxes and subsidies insidious because it's literally killing us but the mental health aspect. So i actually was a correctional facility nurse for some time. And then when i moved i was working at a private school as a school nurse and it was fascinating watching behavior patterns and i know that food and mood are intimately connected. Adhd all sorts of disorders are attributed to poor nutrition. And it was absolutely fascinating watching the same behavior patterns. There's a really great book called food and mood. And it's written by elizabeth summer who is a registered dietitian. I highly recommend reading that It will make all of the connections between behavior and Food well and you know thinking about what's going on our nation right now. Where in the middle of a pandemic which scenes no signs of letting up anytime soon at the time. We're recording this. We still don't know who the next president united states is going to be. So you see people stress eating a lot. Oh man i never really actually thought about that. But i'm sure you're probably right. And what are those things. That we crave those hyper palatable. Highly processed foods high sugar high fat. Yes all the things that are cheap and readily available. Shell stable and everywhere. How did we get to that point. That's what i want to know. Who knows earl butz. So if healthcare providers listed this episode went to encourage healthy eating with their patients. What do you think they could do. One of the first things that you would need to assess is their ability to access the access that food do they have transportation to get there. Do they have the means to pay for that food. Because we talk about snap and freshman fresh match but sometimes those farmers markets are inaccessible to these patients. They don't have transportation to get there. Maybe they don't have the means because not all food insecure households even even qualify for snap a large percentage of the people that we help are in that twenty seven percent of all households that don't qualify for snap but are still working poor and do have food security issues. I mean if you are faced with a choice of buying gas to get to or a bus fare to get to work or bus fare to get to the farmers market and buy food. What are you gonna do. You're gonna choose that job every time because you need to keep roof over your head so you may not have transportation or access to those healthy food choices and last question. If you could do anything what would you do to improve. Health and health care in rural america transportation initiatives. I guess go back to that. Or empowering those people to be able to grow their own food. Hippocrates food by visa in medicine and i really believe that food is an essential part of our healthcare system. Even though it's a totally different industry it is so important and i guess better informing and educating physicians and nurses about especially nurses. Because they're the front lines healthcare they spend more time with the patients to get to know them better. They get to know them personally. In many cases much more than of physician. That's overly busy. An overly stressed has the ability to do so really educating them on these issues so that they can more appropriately help their patients. Because i mean when i was a nurse i didn't know anything about these statistics or some of these choices and obstacles that a lot of americans are encumbered with. There's a huge huge gap in access to healthy food. We've almost got food apartheid in a lot of rural areas in our state and it doesn't need to be that way we just need to collectively come together and create new and innovative ways of solving these problems. And i really do have faith. We have the ability to do so. Virginians are so kind and southern hospitality is such a big thing. I think it's possible. We just need to figure out how together we can do that. Because something that's co created and community driven is a lot more successful than just me off here standing in the distance shouting into the wind and trying to do my thing. Collaboration with other people healthcare providers those church foodbanks community gardens. If we can all come together. I think we really can make a huge difference in our community for our health and for our communities health in the future. Thank you amy rose. Thank you for having me. That's amy rose. Full advocating for improvements to transportation and other access points check out hurt links to rv agriculture and richmond. Food justice in the show notes. If you want to be part of the conversation about rural health make sure you check out. The virginia rural health association on facebook twitter and instagram. this year's been unreal now. School for kids is laptops in liberal corona virus. Everything upside down but we still have to remember important stuff like include shocks. Why's that an uncertain times. Getting push is something we can control to one less health. Worry our family. You're right. i read the flu causes. Thousands of deaths and millions of doctor visits each year. all right. then we're getting family flu shots and we'll tell our friends to flu. Shots are more important than ever. This year is sponsored by the virginia hospital healthcare association.

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Lunchbox Gets Caught Doing Something Gross + Bobby Tries To Keep A Listener From Taking His Money

The Bobby Bones Show

1:36:46 hr | 1 year ago

Lunchbox Gets Caught Doing Something Gross + Bobby Tries To Keep A Listener From Taking His Money

"Hi, I'm Chelsea handler. Welcome to life will be the death of me production of iheartradio. And I'm gonna talk to all these different people BFF Mary McCormack, if I didn't have a systems managers cleaning, ladies or any staff at all how long I would survive long. You can't do a podcast without nothing. Life will be the death of me as a production of heart radio for more podcasts from iheartradio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shifts. The Bobby bones post show pre show the show today's over. So we turn the mic up and talk afterward a little more freely meaning we'd have time constraints. But I was watching the news this morning before I came in. And there was a video this guy, and he walks up to the door, and he like opened the door to door. In a snake dip soundbite on the face. Oh my gosh. You sell lunch box. Lunch box. All yuk. I cringed you can talk in your microphone for this. Can you hear me it were because we're in an old Studi an old old old studio until they rebuild our other studio, we moved out of our studio into this room. And it's pretty good bad. But some of the stuff is still kind of broken like, Fox Sports use this room. Think clay Travis used this seems like you have a lot to get used to over there on your do like Ivan all day, just it just felt awkward abundant dimmer sides. But I saw it's a door camera. That captures the guy getting bit by snake a guy in Oklahoma went to open his friends front door when a five foot ache jumped out and bit him in the face. It was wrapped around the porch light and everybody has his ring cameras now. This friend Russian with the hospital. The doctor said the snake was fine. The guys by wasn't venomous. He's okay. But a neighbor sided to get rid of the snake with a hammer. Just poor snake? No just living. His life story fell attacked and they got hammered. Oh, good way got ham. Do. I mean, you see him and he just runs backwards into the yard. It is. So it is bad or the clip. Like, he didn't even wait. He's like hospital. Wasn't like a snake? Hospital. I thought about you. Hey, it's a snake. Like, my kid has a book by animals the zoo. I skipped a page with the snake. Oh, you do. Absolutely. Because it's like the Senate does a little no we don't do this page. Skip it Carrie Underwood brought a fan onto that rap thing. We did on our show Luda. Did you see it? I haven't. And I was wondering if they did good or did pretty good. The is not awesome. As why didn't play it on the show. Okay. And you can definitely hear him rap. And I think he did. Okay. But I'll place this is Keri. The thing was she had a contest you sit in a rap, and then you can come up and do the rap heart that Luda. Fees for the courage, I possessed Duterte drama is that so here we go carries on stage. It's like cell phone video. That's cool because they got and same time. Pretty good. Yeah. Actually, noise pisses pants. Oh my goodness. Here we go. Oh boy. Good for him. He mailed it. Good for him. Singer. That's fun. I good for him. I remember we were doing the million dollar show from the raging idiots couple years ago and Carrie Underwood did it with us and have a picture of my house of a singing together because I was singing she was saying. And I did my part. And I was like do that. She starts singing part and she opened her mouth, and it was different than anybody. I've ever ever been around saying with that strong of vocalist. I think the best the best. Yeah. To sit. I it's so hard. I think now it's like who's your favorite singer more than just the best singer? But I mean, it was it was just a different different type of voice that came out of that. It was like okay that holes opening. Holy crap. Yeah. It was amazing. And you're right there right next to her. So as this like, oh, we were seeing to do it like almost three inches from each other. And have you know, not a lot of my house, though. Like when you walk into my podcast room. That's one of the pictures that you see going up. So. Yeah, that was pretty cool. How how was your yesterday is really good? Yeah. I mean is a really beautiful day spent some time outside the kids organized some stuff in my house that I needed to get done that feels good sprinkling spring cleaning or. Cleaning. I guess I was just cleaning. But it was one of those things that really really my husband, and I cleaned out. Some drawers like, you know, somehow in the house are always you find these these Georgia become junk drawers, I don't even know how you decide that's going to be the door, and we have like three of them. And we went through all three and it felt so good found all kinds of things. I kinda sprinkl into bit with close where it's like EMS not going to wear that anymore. Why do you get a bunch of clothes? But now anytime or anything like that where that again. Yeah. I know I'm good on today's you can keep that not in bad. Just don't I I looked at it. I'm like, nah. This shirts. Also, it's okay. No little brawny. Lumber. Jackie for me. Yeah. It's awesome. I don't have that Bill. I think I wore this American idol, didn't they? Oh, well, then you can't wear that again over I think maybe award on a mentoring day. Oh, not on camera. No, no, no. It's all on camera. And you can't wear that shirt twice. But yes, I can wear many times I want I can't run on TV again. Oh, gosh. Okay. But yes, I can do whatever. Got to get rid of it. I was wearing I gave you two jackets. I saw you wearing another jacket. I guess night of art. Yeah. Our it was Friday night. Which was the the first the preliminary where we haven't dinner with clients stuff like that. And I wore one that I thought why couldn't wasn't able to pull off? He pulled it off so easily. You guys really like I wont even noticed man. I felt like the leather was crinkle in and every step by took like the little jingle with zippers on it. And then you then get Saturday to Saturday when I like them both. And I think you both gave me Amy and Bobby you both gave me like the complements and the courage enough for me not to wear it. Like, I'm gonna wear it. Now more often wherever you know, not every day. It's too nice. Maybe like every other weekend. Now, you feel now you'll own it where you look full good. And you'll just feel like yeah. I look good nece. Mentioned before we can a couple of things one. We didn't do Poche appreciate the last couple days because I was in California. If I'm in a studio, sometimes they need the studio sometimes I've to get out and go to work, which is why I'm in another studio so apologies that we did not get on and do this before some of the other shows because you may look on and be like, wow. This is a short show this is because we we weren't able to hop on. And do this anything that you wanna mention Amy? I mean now this now while what are you looking around the room for I don't know. I was looking around for any Appalachians or anything. Is there anything things you talk about? I mean, I cast this kind of looking at the guys because we kind of no you're going on a date tonight. So I didn't know if that if. Okay, all right questions. All right. Loan going. This is dogging this is me bringing it up. You talk about your date, and who she is nice for sly way of who is she it's not that sly, and I'm not gonna tell you. She is due. I met her during NFL draft. Oh think she plays in the NFL draft was one of the players go round draft at number six overall in the giants. Oh, that's the guy. Looks like you I'm in. But. Yeah. And so it was like, hey, let's meta then and then I was coming leaving. I'm just an in and out of town all the time, and I was landing and she was coming off an airplane. We saw show to talk for a minute came get back. We'll go have dinner or something. So I'm back because I leaving tomorrow. So we got dinner who's that girl that you like Robin Robin Roberts as it, Robin. I don't think she's into money. Oh. I don't know that. She's not. Oh, but it's not her. It's not no. Yeah. Just today. Like, I said, I'm just trying to I'm just trying to date if I don't date how much supposed to find the one, right? Yeah. Not a play crush crush a lot. Was that me? What does that mean? I don't even know rush hearts. No. It means like haven't crushes on people. Oh, no. You don't that's not you know, crush lot. Okay. Just qualities that. I think will be nice to see if I like further. And so I do I wanna date and California. How does that good movie star? Stop with just wanna make sure you're not saying. No, right. Exactly. Aiming? Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. Look for y'all going tonight. I don't even know yet place picked out yet. You don't have a regular spot. You have your spot. Here's why. Because when I was dating in Austin at a brief time where I was spotting around a little bit. But I would I had a spot, and I will go on the stupid way to be like, hey, good to see again. And but to 'cause I have type, and they would look something they would look similar, and they would think the same girls. They're like, hey last time last time, it should be like I've never been here. I know it wasn't a good thing. So I try not to keep the same spot. Smart. But I'm not like. Playing or if I was wouldn't talk about on the air. Right. No. No. But you do every what once every two weeks Slatter date Moore. Now like every hour. Is not if I were like hiding anything. I wouldn't talk about on the right? I'm just trying to find some there are a couple of actually like. Out of fifteen. Who knows me narrow down who knows done done. What today Mark in the USA? Just listen to the sore losers. Do you listen to this? You know, it's a podcast sports podcast. Eddie Ray, myself do and hockey playoffs. A lot of good stuff going on right now. All right, there you have it Eddie anything may is foster awareness month. So and I've talked to so many people about fostering, like this everywhere, we go people ask me questions. And so many people are just like man, I've now I'm thinking about it. So it's pretty cool that people can just go wherever they live like how do I get involved? And I'm sure they can find it's easy to request for to be on my podcast because I have the Email address for Q and AM F. And one of the questions was could you get to come on your podcast to talk about foster care? I'm very interested in how he got into that. No, she's he agreed fully one of the things which fits right in how much of your pay for those. I don't even discuss that. Get paid in promoing your other podcasts. Okay. Come on and talking about this league. Go. That's like when Eddie does mine. I was like, hey, don't forget you got solar talking about it's fun. There. You have it. Here is today show. It is Wednesday may eighth. Enjoy and Simone. Like your buddy miss the Bobby? Transmitting? America. Is about. Right. Welcome to Wednesday show. Good morning studio. Amy said she saw someone eating one of our flight something that was pretty interesting. What was it grapes dipped in mustard? I know I guess initially. It sounds gross. But I really liked both of those. I like grapes. And I'm like mustard. I mean, they could be onto something like either. I didn't know if I was totally dislike appalled by it. Or I was like intrigue like that might be really good because I like, a salty sweet combo and. Grapes, and muster. They busted out like, it was just an everyday thing. And I could not stop staring. I do eat the the cash shoes because I have these raw cashews eat. And sometimes I put up job before the mama to Lula sauce on their ladies, whatever it's called. You know, there's no reason always correct me on that. I think that's pretty good. But I'm gonna try to grapes in mustard. Did you ever try the coke in the milk? No, no. But I drink a lot of soda I trust that it's good. If people are into it because coke it over ice cream is good. I had asked for a hot tea of the day. Admit sleeping a lot. And my voice a little messy hot tea, and they're like would you like cream in that? He and I was like that's an interesting. So put cream in the team is really good Iraq cream tea. Yes, I have July kit or no, yeah. I like it. I I'll do if I'm out at a coffee shop and not having coffee order hot tea with like a forfeit Cup of almond milk. I know that sounds xactly cream, but it just makes it a little bit better than just with water. The Bobby bones show podcast highlight segment of the day. We have a room connected to our studio. It's called the glass room where a lot of the production happens and let's box walked in. What did you see in the trash? There were a chick fillet fries, which I'm not even a fan of. But it was like noon I hadn't eaten I was hungry. There was a couple of things stacked on top of it. And I was like lean to my left. And I was like man there looks like there's some fries still in there, and there are some dipping sauce like sweet and sour sauces like I'll get them. So I moved to stuff out of the way picked it up set it on the table dip eight. Eight Ditton was a dip open. It was sitting in the sitting in with the fries wasn't sitting separate in the trash can how do you know, someone eating that didn't double dip? I don't care about double dipping. I'm not. I'm not scared of that. Okay. All double dip, all the time. You go to a party. You're also walk case caso, salsa, whatever consider that for other people just 'cause you don't care. You know, if you don't want if you can't handle it bring your own awhile. That's the way I look at if you're scared a double dipping in a party the need to have when you hold in your lap. So, you know, his years and years only. But yes, it was in the trash can what might the fries were scattered in the trash. They were still in the little chick container. But there was shot on top of it. Yeah. There was a couple pieces of trash on top of it. And the open sauce sauce was in with the fries long had been sitting there. Do you think that's not? I mean, I didn't called oh, they were definitely cold. Nicole? I was home in the room would have done the same thing in eight the fries 'cause I wouldn't. I would not know. Now, would you know way to saw lunchbox do this because they read it out? And then we're like, let's try it was the two other girls in the classroom goes probably. You're doing that. And I was like what do you mean? They're perfectly fine. There's no there's no bite marks out of the fries that would that have stopped. You. There were probably not by Marx. No. I mean heck at an Astros game. One time I found cotton candy underneath the seat. I ate it. Collect kids. I was on a date once with the girl a long time ago, we're watching a movie and she reach entering. And there was a box of like half eaten chocolate covered peanuts, or whatever those are Weiner. But what do they call us Weiner balls raising raising? It's now there's Weiner Googlers Googlers. It was a half open box. She goes. Does somebody left this box Googlers here? And then she ate Landau keeper trap for its poison Cooper. It's no one's going to poison Googlers. Then they did. But I didn't think that was weird that her hands have been. Giaga out again. No, we did all I can think about every time was like she has Guber Mel. Used? Uber mouth. Hey, you're on the Amy and Arkansas, how are you? What's happening? Not much. I am on my way of work right now. I am I time caller I'm excited. I finally got you guys. Thanks for calling. Yes. So I actually wanted to tell you first of all I love it. You're from Arkansas, I think that's really cool. I me and my tire family cleaning, my in laws are from small towns at Arkansas. And so whenever I started listening to your show. I thought it was like super cool that you're from Arkansas as well. But my husband also hated country music whenever we first started dating. And since we've been married I have worth tends listen to your show every single morning. And now anytime here's your voice come on the air. He'll like nonchalantly like try to turn it up like without making it obvious and Steph and Mike, okay? I see you. I w love this. Let's here's the thing to country music is that I think some people have never really listened to it. And I had some friends whenever I was in Los Angeles living there for a few months. Ally countries. I'm like is you never heard it. And so that's what I need to listen to and say, okay, listen to Old Dominion listen to who else. What's in them? Chris Stapleton, and Thomas Rhett because I feel like those are transitional into the rest because the those guys just don't put bad songs, right? If I had to pick three it was those it was Old Dominion, Thomas Rhett. And of course, Abelson, and I will listen to songs five and you just come back to me tomorrow. If you listen, and they were like, you know, what you get a point. And then they start listening little bit on radio. And then all of a sudden, it'd be like he I guess I'm kind of into it. But then I'd watch their into stories in the background, they'd be listening to country music. And it'd be like see I told you and now you good. And then it's like after that level is like the Luke combs because all his songs are good. His are a little more country country, but you just warn people up, and then they start to love it. And then you just go full on Luke, Bryan. I got. Rain is a good thing. They're totally into it. Appreciate call. I'll tell your husband. We said Hello. What's his name? Colton. All right called probably listening right now secretly we. Appreciate you. But and thank you for calling Amy. Yeah. I think you've got so much have a great day later, Bobby bones show threes. Threes, pretty Raymundo from the glass room with the news Raymundo what you got in Denver, Colorado. There's a school shooting to high school students were involved they've been arrested. They pull a gun from ATar case shot one injured. Eight others such sad. News in tax news. Los Angeles has turbo tax N H in our block for deceiving. People. They were hiding options to file taxes for free from Google. Searches. Officials are looking into it and finding Calabasas California police are investigating that Hugh hardy that youtuber Jake Paul through over the weekend. People have said pills or slept in their drinks. And neighbors were injured. Do you follow Justin Bieber on Instagram? I don't if you go to page. He's been writing some real deep prolific Instagram posts. Okay. So what I'm gonna do is see if you can tell the difference between a Justin Bieber quote for quote from me from one of my books. Okay. Now this game was not Mehboob made the game. Mike did you game? I didn't make this game. But I think it's funny is it Bieber or Bobby, Amy. Are you ready ready? Don't stop fighting. The battle is already one five for what you love. And who you love. Don't let fear anxiety win. Is that Bieber or Bobby, Bobby? No, I'm sorry that Justin Bieber. Well. K Bieber or Bobby? Being nervous is uncommon. It's uncomfortable. It's stressful. But that's why it's awesome being nervous is how I feel alive to me. It's a rush a mental bungee jump. Fever or Bobby? This is so hard. Wow. I don't know that I've ever heard you say or I don't recall reading mental bungee jump. But. Golly. Bobby, correct. Yes. Yes. Oh, I don't get a clip Bieber gets a club. But I don't get a clip. Thank you. Thank you. All right, ready Bieber or Bobby, the sooner you embrace the truth. The sooner you can leave behind the bitterness of what you don't have an start with what you do. Ever bobby's, Bobby, correct? We got that. Lifter war. No matter how dysfunctional you think your background is how broke or broken. You are where you are today. Or what anyone else says you matter in your life matters Bieber or Bobby Bieber? I can say that. I mean you. Yes, it sounds like you. I'm just I can't I was like too much of him e hauling between the two of you like pantley all are a lot of light just going Bieber Parisian. It is Justin Bieber. I'll give you one more. The smaller you break down the activity or the time. It takes to do something. More manageable becomes. Bobby? Yeah. That's correct. Yeah. We got that. That is all about if you look, and you you're like man, and I have to do this project at work, or after my kids gotta have great grades for second grade. If you just look at the very end the end result. It just seems like it's almost impossible to achieve. But if you look at it every single day, and you just do what's in front of you every single day all the sudden, even breaking down one scooting by ally quicker into Everyday's manageable all the day's not manageable. So I did say that I do believe that. That's how my life. Here we go one more. Everyone is insecure about something. That's the cooked. Uh-huh. Bieber. No, bobby. I'm sorry. Bobby's who said this the. Oh, you want to this is the Amy rose. Morning star name. When the games his I had extra breakfast. Are your credit card bills? Keeping you up at night interest rates in the double digits, be smart and pay off your credit card balances with a credit card consolidation loan. From light stream get a fixed rate as low as five point nine five percent APR with auto pay. You could save thousands in interest, get alone from five thousand to one hundred thousand dollars, and there are no fees. The application is one hundred percent online. It's stress free. 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He's been associated with. I just kind of like is he really to be able to take on this role. It's very serious. And I mean, he was believable. But the movie, I don't know. I I wasn't as into it. This is pointing you know, what else almost watched and Eddie told me not to was the mule with Clint Eastwood, I have that on my list is not good. No. It's not. It's really, it's it's okay. It's one of those movies where you're just you watch it, and you're not gonna think about it. Again. You just like it was fine. It wasn't like a bad two hours of my life. But Clint Eastwood just getting old and he's the star of the show. He's not getting old. He's old and he's the star of the show. And it's just like man like I feel like he's getting tired as he's talking right now, he might fall asleep. I'm looking at rotten tomatoes. It's seventy percent positive thought. It'd be higher than that. Audience scores are lower than that. But yeah, I thought the mule was going to be really good and watch on the airplane. And I kinda was not into it. Because Eddie said that the review wasn't good. It's a cool story line is just like Kleenex when he's to stop. I think now it went else anything good lately. Go around the room. It can be streaming or movie. I'll go first I talked about it last week. I saw all end. And now, I can't shut up about it. When anyone asked me anything like, hey, what's weather like today? I'm like who knows? But LA La Land is so good some kind of annoying about that. But I really like LOL end, Amy you? I mean, the last movie I've watched the disaster from Ted Bundy one, and I don't recommend it watch TV shows either nothing. Oh, my husband. And I started a football one called all American. Maybe. Its net flicks. And were yeah. I hadn't really formed an opinion yet. So isn't gonna share? But I guess since you asked me, I I mean, we're on episode three. But it's about this kid that grew up like in the bag part of LA, but this football coach from Beverly Hills comes over to get him and recruits him for the high school football team, and it's got some racial issues. And I don't know it seems pretty pretty interesting like I'll update you. I wanna get a few more under my belt, and I'll give you a Fisher review. I watched the Bernie Brown special which was fantastic on that flicks. I'd recommend that to anybody lunch anything. But I haven't really watched TV and the most week two weeks plus thing sat down and wash was free solo. And we talked about it is amazing. So good. You have to watch that documentary. Eddie. So I started watch on Netflix. There's a show called perfect bid. And it's about a prices right contestant. Who went like forty times, I think and he finally got his shot, and he studied every single price that he fought? Could on every item that was on the show. And he I I don't even want. I don't wanna ruin it. But I'm not I'm not even done with about halfway done with it. And so far. So since you're not you have the what happened that the totally role. Okay. All right Santosh dick watch documentary. Yeah. We talked about this about two years ago on the show. You did. Yeah. What's under the recently added online? It was just added a Netflix it came out. But it's really good would also recommend that movie. The the three brothers. They called Amy. I did. Identical strangers fantastic to end up -ducted in plain sight. I don't recommend that. Yeah. Heavy. So anyway, don't watch Ted Bundy don't watch Clint Eastwood the mule, right? And have a good morning. But all that Ted Bundy tapes like if you haven't seen that do that. I just want to clarify its Zach. I'm also not gonna recommend that it's to darken Kili. Like, I think if that's your thing. But let's not my thing. But I was fascinated by because you're like, it's almost interesting. How in you got you? Appreciate our thankful of how far we've come as a society to like, you know, with government, or with leaves technology society. Okay. Well, yes. As a site we've grown in communication between our state to state like we like, well, I'm happy the internet exists, basically. Okay. Because of the internet where we can now find serial killers. But that's one of those Rydell recommended people because they may hate it may give nightmares and maybe to killing. Yeah. Well, how long it's time for the good news. Okay. So Facebook can be negative at times, we talk about how to dark place, it also can be a happy place. And that's where my tell me something good comes from some preschoolers. They were you know, sweethearts back in the day. Then one of the kids families moved to another state. So they got separated at like five six years old. We'll guess what? Reunited them way later in life Facebook, and they got married sweethearts. What else can you say? You know, what this makes me think of is my friend Missy who in college. She started dating this guy. And she was my roommate, and then she found out her her parents gave birth Saint hospital, and they were both in the Nico together as babies they were both born premature they were both in the same Nico. So that's technically when they met. And then boom, they got married the Niki sweethearts. They were isn't that so cute? It's sort of this. That's what it's all about. That was telling me something good show down head. This story goes from Bridgeport, Connecticut, a man was looking for a job. So he took an application in the Kentucky Fried Chicken and the managers like, hey, man. Sorry, we're not hiring right now. But I can keep your application. Call you. If something becomes available guy got mad punched the manager in the face manager through hot water on them. So he got second degree burns. And he got arrested for assault. Boy who did the guy that the guy that went in looking for the job because he punched. Okay, let the manager getting in trouble because he was self defense. But that it reminded me of when I worked at Dunkin donuts the coffee pot set right there to the left of the register. And I always had visions of someone coming in and trying to rob us and me going. Yeah. And reaching over grabbing the pot of coffee throwing it on them and diving out the drive through window. This was my scenario. Why did he have the hot water by like coffee? I think it was from the coffee thing. Yeah. Like, a little whatever you have to call out. Yeah. This waterspout. Imagine naturally comes in for a job. And then you get punched a face. But he didn't get the job. Now. I didn't I wouldn't think. So no. I said it much much rocks at your boneheads story today. Buddy, miss the Bob. Transmitting across America. About it. Right. I bring bad news to the show. What I know. It's kind of what we're not about here. But. I don't want to say this. But French fries, apparently the worst thing you possibly eat. Oh why? Because they're well. So the whole thing came out if they're not you can't look at him as potatoes, but they are. But no fry they're destroyed dip potato has been destroyed. Some people think since French fries are made from potatoes that you know, what I mean to potato they're not that bad. But so they did French fries almost every major restaurant, and they are near the bottom of foods to eat because one if they dip them in oil pretty much it's over, and then they cover them in salt mix ten times worse. So health officials say if you're gonna eat fries, you should have three three fries. Three that's hard. I don't even wanna fry if I only three right? So it says just stay away from FRY's. Mcdonald's. French fries. Are the best. French fry. I could probably eat just four or five boxes for lunch of just French fries. Did you see that story to that came out about people when they ate a bunch of garbage in a short amount of time their body readjust quickly, Amy? No, I didn't. So it was like if you just been John ice cream for like a week like it's not good for you. And you may put on a couple of hours, but your body kind of goes back to where it was before that for the most part. But if you do it for long term is when it really starts to take a hold. Gotcha. We're so just genetically who we are and little factors like food and exercise can help us or hurt us. But we are really who. We are. The whole thing was like scientists say your body can adapt. A short binges like short benches because people do an extra thousand calories for like five days, and they found that all of the hormones briefly chains they kind of went back to where they were. But it was if he did it longer than that, you're your hormones change completely. And you were just either. If you wait less a tenor person, or what we do eat way more and yours bigger, and it's hard. It's hard to shake it out. Like you actually have to lose weight. Yeah. No. It makes sense. I mean hormones metabolism and stuff like for me. I did a lot of that studying that whenever I was recovering from eating disorders stuff. Like, you you mess with your body, you mess with your gear given metabolism you're given hormones like what you really are supposed to be. Because like if you ever have struggled with that. You don't you don't know what is your normal? What is your normal because you've you put too many other factors in there to mess? It all up. So you have to like finally have a longtime where you're even and try to get on your body recalibrate s-. Yeah. It's it's odd we start messing with our wiring. And then you're rewired. Yeah. You have to wire it. Yeah. A lot of us left it alone with and not freaked out about anything, you probably would have been healthier. Endless thread, the podcast from W are featuring stories from read it presents infectious a special series on the strange passed in surprising present of vaccines in MTV axes, which is tennis strange place may only people speaking up the parents this story and this fight. It isn't just about right now, it can be traced back over centuries and today's battles are just the latest cycle. My personal guess is that somebody died of smallpox out in the in the middle of the Gobi desert somebody came upon their body and the buddy was succeeded and they briefed in the dust from the body. It's a cycle of medical experimentation in avation and reaction. It's so Nazi Germany, and I hate to use that word, but it's so the healthcare industries goosesteps to that Sonate next to Nate next Nate vaccinate infectious. Coming may third. Subscribe on apple pod. Casts or wherever you listen. Where do you hide? Your valuables. Any on the best place to do it is the laundry room. I read what why would happen there? Well, because this security experts they all got together. And they said that your laundry is totally like a low priority location for thieves because it rarely contains the valuable stuff they burglars. They want a quick in and out, you know, so hide your stuff on shelves above I level or in your laundry as what they say on average burglars are in your house for about nine minutes. And so they're not gonna take the time to reach up high or go in your laundry room. How Lazier they just not reach up high. No, but the laundry room thing is pretty fascinating. Because again, what are they going to get laundry dirty clothes in dryer sheets? Yeah. I know it's kind of genius could hide stuff in there. And they'll never know unless they're listening to this show right now had your house broken into. I have when we lived in North Carolina. That's why that's why ended up getting Josie is the house got broken into. And Ben was going to be deployed a lot because we were station. At Fort Bragg. And I was like I need a dog. We need a dog. And then like a week later pastored our church rescued a Rottweiler. And I googled, I don't even think I knew it a Rottweiler was and I googled it. And I was like perfect guard dog I'll take her isn't it so crazy because my house was broken into and had a ton of stuff stolen when you walk in. I just kinda confusing. Like, wait. What TV go? Did. I move that knowing I didn't move my TV. Yeah. And you feel violated. And it's scary because someone is rummaging through your stuff, and they took my husband's air force academy. Rain. Oh, that's nothing. They took my skydiving pictures. That's right. That's nothing. Like, I can't believe you'd worry about your husband air force ring at the time, we were young and we were newly married and those rings are expensive. Obviously we wanted to replace it because that's super special and let stinks. Yeah. They station. They tried to take our TV off the wall that they couldn't get it. They couldn't get it. I guess we have that things. Stuck in their early? Good because well struggled what we learned is high your things in the laundry room. Yes, valuables. Your valuable. So this guy Johnny bananas is lunchboxes hero. And he was on what show real world key west. And then he's been on the challenge ever since. So he's been on twenty seasons of the challenge and so much season at a bar and Austin goes up freaks out. But he starts following you on Instagram and Twitter. Yeah, we are. Now, we are like like social media friends, and you haven't reached out to him direct message because why well I didn't wanna go onto strong because he commented on my picture. And he said something about grinder. So I was nervous. I was like I wanna play cool. Like, I'm not checking my social media all the time for his comments. So I didn't want to reply within ten minutes. So I played it cool. What's your end game with him though? Be friends, and then maybe to hang around other challenged people. And then maybe they have like a version where they bring on fresh meat, and they bring me on the challenge because semi end you just wanna go on the challenge to just using him. The. Oh, no, no, no. I'm saying just I I could work with him. I could be one of his alliance. How awesome would that be to be an Johnny bananas alliance? Well, I'm not super familiar with Jani bananas. But absent people that I know that aren't they love the guy that think it's fantastic. And so much finally reached out to Johnny bananas. Now this is on instant messenger. Message arrest. Direct message on Instagram. Okay. So what did you say? I said because he's leaving for the next season the challenge, I think this weekend. I said good luck on the challenge and can't wait to catch up. When you get back. We have to keep our French trip. Friendship strong to prove grinder works. Grinder Joe com. What he made the grinder joke until I thought and we kinda told him to do. He's the grinder in there. Okay. So Amy, do you think Johnny bench replied? Yes. Eddie. No, absolutely. Not. Lunchbox dead. Johnny bananas reply. As of now, Johnny bananas has not replied. In how long ago did you send the message about twenty four hours? Oh, man. What's the wait time on that bones? If you well, you can look and see when they're active online. And if they've been online, they didn't reply it's because they don't want to reply. Oh. Maybe he gets a lot of drug messages may. But I'm if you follow five hundred okay, that's not a terribly lot. Man. Yeah. But I'm nervous. Like, I'm hoping I didn't come on too strong with keep our fringe friendship strong. I mean, I sound like he's got a new girl likes. I didn't know I was like I want to sell like a friend and not a fan boy. And I thought I kind of like, a friend. But I wouldn't sure wish them good luck. I felt like I played it pretty good. Well, he may not have got it send him another one. That goes. Hey. Really? Yeah. 'cause he may not a guy. It'd be like, hey, message message replied to make sure you got it. Okay. Yeah. Have you think that's going to work to desperate? Maybe you think that I mean, maybe he didn't miss it. Maybe he got looked over. Maybe he just forgot. Yeah. Put one of those wavy emojis. Like, hey, it's me in case, you forgot to message me. Hey, we took a shot together at the bar. Do you remember? I mean, he has to remember that. I'll just sit on it. Really Winston a metal now thirty typing. It up was go news Instagram do that just sit for a minute next. The next move will be just a common at one of his pictures again. Okay. This is stress list. Tough, man. I mean, I'm so close to Johnny bananas. I don't know what's going to happen. Just find an ex picture. He posted comment on it. And see if he replies back, let us know a couple days, right? All right. Sammy's pile of stories today is national have a coke day because it's the anniversary of the first day. Coca Cola went on sale at a pharmacy in Atlanta way back in eighteen eighty six. So it's a hundred and thirty three years old today put cocaine and coke. Yeah. Those health coat. I don't know. I don't think so. Just work. I'm probably not going to either. But I mean, if some people need an excuse to have Coker diet coke, now's your day. So Wendy's is bringing back it's spicy chicken nuggets. And we have chance the rapper thank for this. Because he tweeted something like this positive affirmations for today. I will have a good day. I will succeed today. Wendy's will bring back the spicy chicken nuggets at some point. Please. Please Lord let it be today. So then Wendy saw him to eat that and they decided to put something up on their Twitter and said, you know, we'll bring back the spicy chicken nuggets. If we get two million likes. Well, they got the likes so spicy chicken nuggets. Coming back. And Starbucks received more than eleven point six million dollars in free advertising. Thanks to a coffee Cup that accidentally made its way into a scene of game of thrones. And it wasn't even a legit Starbucks Cup. But it was from craft services there, and it was a Cup of tea and people just thought it was Starbucks Lewis shape like that Starbucks Cup lid. Yeah. And cup. Yes. And so would you still amazing? They left it in the scene. And I haven't seen this week's episode yet. I'm going to watch it. Hopefully tonight, we'll HBO has since gone back and remove the cut from the episode on HBO go. So I don't know where you're going to watch. If you see, but it's funny. They went in there like up removing that no more free advertising. But when they add it all up from radio TV social media everyone talking about the Cup. It would be like eleven point six million dollars worth of advertising. We'll watch on HBO go. But I've already seen the clip of it does look like Kalisa sitting at a table having a dirty CHAI like, wait. So not getting thrown. All right. All right. Yeah. That's you go it's time for the good news. Saturday Sharana Wilson attended her son's graduation at central Michigan university. But oddly the same day that was her own commencement added different college because she went back to school. And she was like I'm gonna go to his more than I want to go to mind. So the school her son was graduating from learn about it and didn't tell her and they also had her little ceremony at the same time. They had her signs. So the other university gave them permission to go up and do that in award her. And so they did that in the video everybody university to crowd can be heard cheering the mother on. Upon you, Sean tra- Wilson the bachelor's degree that you have heard please move your Tassell from your right to your left. Google. Yeah. I love it. I love that too. That's what it's all about right there. That was telling me something good. Hey, it's Kim dash out Beatle fans. Check out my podcast, Ken, Dachau's, Beatles revolution, talking all about the Fab Four and how this Little Rock band from Liverpool. Changed the world of music, fashion and ideology, we delve into all things. Beatles them like the remix white album with producer child's Morton talking about their influence on other artists from Lenny Kravitz little Steven van Zandt Rosanne cash in more. Listen subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts piece of loaf. Your buddy Bob transmitting across America. About it. That's right. Over to Amy with the morning corny. Morning glory. Mighty cows. Where bells around their nets cows where bells around their necks these their horns, don't work. Hongkong there. That was morning, Gordon, although just to be fair. They bulls have horns and cows. Don't well, I didn't need to get specific. I'm. Oh, dear. They both have warned they do dago. Learn something new day. They let me say this real quick is. I'm getting a lot of crap about posted a into story of me running have you guessing and people say that I do not run mainly like that. I do not have on friends that I do. There's. I was almost took it down because I was really in hammered for it. If you go to my answer story Amsterdam, Mr. Bobby bones MR, Bobby Jones, and you click through it's like one of the things that posted. And you see me run up a hill. And you know, what I don't run the main list. But I don't think it's worth all the heat. I'm getting for it. So check it out. Watching. I have to agree. That's funny. Let let me say this. How? Where did you? He has a room right now. I don't do a lot of things super masculine. But you know, what I did? Instead of pulling it down. I just said I embrace who I am. I'm not embarrassed of it. I still can run pretty good. That's moving pretty good. However, maybe I don't look the most masculine everybody's laughing. I get to like the way the arm going. It's the hands and arms. I don't know what it is weird about that learning when you're manly. You kind of have a fist when you you don't run with your poems. No, he's gonna wax on wax off. Yeah. Spirit fingers. You are you though, there's one thing about me that I'm me. Watch this like, okay. I wanna go back and vote, it's Mr. Bobby bones on embarrassed of my running. That's my question. How did you? But yeah, I did just the poll right now. It's twenty percent. Yes. Eighty percent. No. Thank you. Thank you guys voting in my favor. It's just shouldn't be embarrassed. Whatever let me see if I if these phones weren't a new studio we're in a temporary studio right now, Heather Hello. Will this work? Heather are you there? So right now, we are in a studio that were sitting in for the next two months until they get our other studio built as first out of the studio, and I've tried to go to Heather, Heather. Right. I don't have her that could be a me thing 'cause I pushed line too. And she's still not there. So we're going to send do this on the air on a national show because that's just how we will go. So entertaining song come back. Let them make fun of me more for my running. Or did you see my running? Would you think runs? Thank you. Thank you. I'm the only one. Okay. We're gonna do combs that premier coming up in the next fifty five minutes. Right. Are we do that today? I'm gonna play a song. Heather if you're still sitting there. I'm trying to get to you MICH more. Rachel maryland. Are you there? Guess so we have no phones that work. That's okay. No. That's you. You don't. Rachel. Oh my God. Rachel standby. How do we do that? Ray hit something to work the numbers one two three four five. So only don't hit this side. This is okay. Hey, rachel. So we're in a temporary studio. They built us just to hang out for the next couple of months and. You go ahead. Okay. What's up guys? This is the coolest thing ever here. She is Rachel. Everybody is everybody there. Crew. Wow. This is so cool. Well, I just wanted to call it a that. I travel a lot for work like probably three weekends out of the month. And I get a lot of tribal anxiety. So download the Bobby bones podcast every morning and listen to it on my site. Relaxed me, and it's awesome to ask you on this question yet. Okay. Tell us a segment that you like to hear in then one where you're kind of like, I don't love that one so much anymore. Okay. Well, I love the one where you guys guess Amy's jokes. Okay. So you like the investigative corny on Thursdays. I do like that one. Yeah. What's up where you're like? You know? Okay. But next. I don't know off the top of my head like I really like all of them. I like when much FOX guesses the weight 'cause I have no clue how he does that. That's a fan favorite. Neither do we. Okay. Then do when you think of something that you don't like any more. Call us back. I'm just trying to make I'm trying to basically be an algorithm where I can now go what they don't like we're not gonna do that anymore. I'm gonna give them give you what you like. I love that. Oh, we also I have a thing for Amy really quick. So Amy your son likes to dance, right? Like, he likes hip hop. Oh, yeah. So I actually work for travelling hip hop company, and we do events all over the country, and we have one in Nashville coming up in January. How would you like to feature him as a dancer? All ages. So like young kids all the way to adult. So we've done with famous for Fers in the industry. So are you looking to hire a dance champion from a reality is because champion what has two thumbs. And it's dance champion this guy. I know I know I do some hip hop. About me run though. Look at my Instagram Rachel, and it's on my answer story and see if you like about running technique. It's something new. I'm trying out. Okay. I'll see at. All right. Thank you have a good morning. Thank you for calling. Call us back sometime. I we are hanging out this morning. We have a bunch of people on the phone. Are you guys asking them questions now to see if they're good to get on the show? So there are asked through questions screen because in the past. We've had some people on that clan. They were good, and they got they got no questions right because we're gonna play win bobby's money where matchup and trivia against them. And if they win they get my little money from my wallet. So I think now starting this week was training them now before we haven't seen them. Okay. Well, that stinks. I like him. We don't screen them dominate. Here's madison. Hey, madison. Are you there? Hold on Madison either yet. Okay. So did she the questions right to be screened question? Try madison. Did they screen you on questions? No. Yes. Maybe. All right, Madison. Sounds like a hero to me. What magic can you beat me and win bobby's money? Maybe so. This one I like people that are confident like I I mean, sorry, Madison. Like, I like you to cool names the name of a city. But I mean, you gotta go cutter. Well, how do I don't know? I don't know. Can you win? I don't know. I mean when you call in win you say, I'm gonna win South Carolina. How are you doing? I am doing good. You pretty good trivia. I like to think so. But you know, we're always happy in our own little bubble world of what we think we can do to cut her two guys we need confident people when you call in to win a competition. You got to be confident you don't think LeBron James though on the court and says, you know, I think I'm gonna lose the night. Hey, have we screen them? They did screen them. Do you want or do you want to take a new batch? Vavi? I mean, she said I mean, I like her personality she did think in her own bubble. She is good. Do you wanna take? You wanna take me on or not come on? Are going to try you have to try. Okay. Lunchbox your final decision on her. Come on girl. Out. Okay. Split the money with me when you win. All right. I ran. Do you love music? Are you a fan of movies like Star Wars Lord of the rings back to the future? Harry Potter Jurassic Park and more than the soundtrack show is made just for you. I'm David w Collins, I'm a composer voice actor in sound mixer in the entertainment industry, and I host to show that's more than just a discussion about music. It's about how that music makes us fall in love with our favorite stories in characters joined the each week as I break down the best moments in our favorite movies, TV shows, even video games and talk about why the music makes each of these experiences on forgettable, and that's not all I also share stories of human drama behind the scenes delving into how these projects were made. And if you don't know anything about music, don't worry, I've got you covered. This show is for everybody season. Two of the soundtrack show is now playing listen subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or where? Ever you? Listen to podcasts. I win bobby's money which. All the money in my wallet, which we just dumped it out at sixty dollars and sixty cents and on the phone to play me. She did go through a few questions beforehand is Lisa and so Lisa are you there? And where do you live in South Carolina live in Charleston? I love it. The low country is on the call. And so what they do is. I'm gonna leave the room. Okay. And they're going to ask you how many sixty seconds of the questions. Yeah. Sixty seconds. How many questions you can get through? If you don't know what you can pass. If you get it wrong or. And then you will be me. I am to know the season and extra cash to send your way. Are you ready? All right. I'm ready. He's. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls all around the world. It's time for another addition of win bobby's money coming out of the blue quarter. Lisa from South Carolina. Called her the undisputed heavyweight champ. We're the record of two and all this as it Bubby. Thanks, lisa. I'm walking out have because when I come back in I'm going mop too. I like are like I'm leaving. All right. At least what do you do? On a game investigator inside a large county. Joe that is legit. I can I can shatter you for. Do you jail? All right. Well, I was gonna ask you a bunch of questions, but Bob, you'll get mad at me because I'll start interviewing about jail in you know. Yeah. Are you ready? The timer will start when I finished reading the first question categories US cities, and what is the city of brotherly love. Correct. What city is Disneyland in? Correct. What city has the largest US airport? Lanta? Steel tower is one of the tallest buildings in what city in Pennsylvania. Bang. Correct. What city is known as the motor city. Correct. The university of Oregon is located in what city. Oregon is located in what city. Incorrect. What fictional US city? Does the Simpsons take place in? Correct. What city is known as the alien capital of the world. Bridewell? Correct. What city was Elvis born in? Correct. Largest city in North Dakota. Incorrect. And that is time. She got somebody, right. How much she? Cover that up. Mike come on. Hi, lisa. Just you know. Great. You need to keep investigating those gangs. Okay. Bad poker banking. Maybe you hit you've got better than that. Being cool. How'd you do? My good enough. I'm ready. You know, what her job is she investigates gangs in the county jail. Okay. That's cool. Okay. I'll give crap wanna play trivia, corneas bones. That's right bombing. My job is mentoring sixteen year olds and seeing competition. Oh, boo that go. Okay. The categories US cities the clock will start when I finished reading the first question. Do not know it say pass ahead. What is the city of brotherly load up? Yeah. Correct. What city is Disneyland. Located in correct. What city has the largest US airport Atlanta? Correct. The US steel tower is one of the tallest buildings. Correct. What city is known as the motor city, Detroit. Correct. University of Oregon is located gene. Correct. What fictional US does the Simpsons? Take place in Springfield. Correct. What city is known as the alien capital of the world, new Roswell. Correct. What city was Elvis born in? Tupelo? Correct. What is the largest city in North Dakota? Fargo correct? What city is home of Starbucks? Starbucks seattle. Correct. What city is the chocolate covered Hersi. Correct. What large Ohio city was Jerry Springer wants the mayor of. Correct. What cities nickname space city? Pass Alcatraz Burzan time is up space city. I don't know that I knew that Houston. Okay. Trust, you know, Alcatraz San Francisco, I. I. Them before you finish. How many I got thirty got thirteen right? And how many did Lisa get, ladies and gentlemen, boys? We do have a new Chevy. It's still chair. Bobby? Goes both both of. How does she do got gray is really good? Yeah. You smoked her though. Good for you for finishing second. Loser. I'm calling you can talk trash when you win. Well, at least I'm sorry. Go ahead. The run up. So that's good. That's true. Listen, I'm probably got eight. I. I. What did I miss space city? Houston, South Dakota. I said to fall. University of Oregon. Yes. Good. I don't think I would have got space city ever. I know NASA isn't NASA. They're never news called space city. And then what was the other one Alcatraz Alcatraz prison is located on what cities bay San Francisco. We didn't say bay got it otherwise. Okay. Well, lisa. Hey, you did not win sixty dollars and sixty cents. But you had a good showing and. If you're happy, I'm happy. You know, I'm happy first time caller got to play a game. Bam market off my list. What else is on your list? We help you. I I don't you know, I get, but we'll get to meet you when you come to Charleston you've been here twice. So that'd be the charm winners. Checkout gangs at the jail. I want to go to jail. Gain. I do actually okay. Bring you guys in. Thank you for calling. Really? Appreciate you. Let's not right. There's every comfortably. More. I mean, I've never met up more happy loser. I get so competitive. The now you gotta turn that off and be just normal guy that I am right now. What the champion? Yeah. Three now, though baby that cities right in my wheelhouse. Does if you ever do state capitals or cities, what's that Pittsburgh won the steel whatever city, I just wanna by that? Because that's still sitting does make sense. I don't know the still building. But if you still it's context Steelers exact, oh, I. All right. Thank you very much. Love is hard. But I was so afraid I could lose everything love is wonderful and confusing magical and infuriated often in the same day. She just finally said like if you think something's wrong with the baby, you know, what let's just check. And then thirty six hours later, they called me. And they said you have to rush to the hospital. Then I started mildly panicking and Google looking for a quiz for is. My husband transgender that's not really his choice. He doesn't really have control over that. But yet he's still chooses to be the partner to me that he is. Because I love you. I'm Joe Piazza join the millions of listeners who've made committed possible and promise you it's cheaper than therapy. Listen to committed on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcast. You know mothers as coming up on Sunday. Yup. And my mom passed away six seven years ago, and so for me mother's day. I hope everybody has a good one. But for me, it's not the not the best for me. But I don't hide from it. And I'm in an interview someone goes, hey, man, we're we're sending messages to our moms for mother's day. Would you like to say to yours? And it just puts me in a weird place because I don't want to bring the room down ago. Pay them died a long time ago and for a lot of our life. I wasn't so close to her because she was an addict. And so I just didn't wanna do that. And so I was like. Bet you did a fake message sort of you tell me if I was wrong for doing this because I was just like, hey, mom, watching this. That's crazy. Hope it's mother's day money because it is crazy. If you live. I mean. Yeah. To handle it. What would you have done? If you were me because I didn't want to be like ou should not because. You're funny here than me. That's like a quick that came to you quickly. And that's that's a funny way to handle it and probably fits you. I probably wouldn't awkward when the mid like my mom died because Amy's mom passed away five years. And so again, mother taste have for you. But I will say that you actually had on the co happening is that you're now a mom, right? We're not a mom yet. Yeah. Yeah. Shifted to. I mean, it is still a time of you know, you you would wanna you miss your mom, but yes, the focus shifts 'cause then you got your kids, and it does help mothers is tough for me. Yeah. I just kind of ignored much possibly can always have a moment where it's like, a, you know, think about it for second by really do the healthy thing and just try to hide mush down. Because I never not handle entity. Like, we'll 'cause obviously I I can empathize with what you're going through with your mom being gone. But I mean one hundred percent, but I never know if I should text me like, you know, heart broken heart. You can always text me in emoji. Our gee, I'm always good with emoji. Because that's how I deal whenever it's awkward what I do five techs back emojis. Yeah. That's my way. But mothers Sunday, I'll say this. Don't forget about it though. Because if you forget, you're a loser kid. Oh, yeah. Or husband or has been yet other lunchbox you've got a baby baby. So you're the one that's in charge of making sure she gets recognized as being a mom, and this is your wife's first mother's day. All you realize lost his mother's you're sitting there. And there was a commercial on TV. And it said something about mothers day, and I was like I wonder when that is Google it and it's Sunday. And I have no idea what to do for my wife first mother's day. Because the first one is probably the most important one. My would pamper her instead of getting something that is like flowers are good, no flowers. I mean, flowers good. But I think you could also pamper her and like get her massage or something. Yeah. Not give her a massage. That's different. Oh, like Senator the massage floor. Yeah. You watch the baby and send her to the massage place. Tell me like come here. You get three you get one three minute. Coupon of lunchboxes hands cash it in anytime. I mean, I could give her a massage later right here on the couch. Gift together or somewhere because she gets an hour of her time. You get to sit in other room in a robe, and you watch the baby. Yeah. And we're giving it an easy idea. Right. Get her some flowers. Okay, which I recommend one eight hundred flowers. Okay. Or let me say that you should just send her get massage your blue apron meals. Well, I'll just do whatever you do that all the time. Anyway, don't do something. Oh, okay. He knows. But don't you. Always do it doesn't seem special. All right. Okay. Maybe I'll do the kids laundry to do you never do that. No. That's. But again, that's practical. Oh, there are certain times. When you should you can also do that avoid price caliber at times lunch. Mogs takes three hour naps. She works fulltime job. I work fulltime job. I know you do, but you have a lot of hours at home where it's so easy to throw on a load of laundry. But you're like that's her job. I do my laundry. She does hers in the kids, laundry and K. Why don't you just make a list of all things from others that you're going to do in that can include that you could get her some flowers to start the morning have them ready for her? Okay. You could then get up earlier in her. What you probably do. Don't you all the weekends? I try to let her get up before me. I let her you could also Senator to get a massage. And while she's a way you could do the kids laundry a lot. Okay. It's one day. I know. I got to set the bar high. Because Father's Day. She has to top it. Oh, I think about that confrontation. Company experimenting with an ice cream or they use maggots. Now before you go how gross eating in the thing, bug or animal? You just kind of picking what you think is acceptable. I know but maggots is not at the top of my list. I know nor mind, but I'm just trying to be pro maggot here shouldn't discriminate your these maggots trying to live a life to you know. Well, not if we them they say that maggots and other insects are environmentally friendly and blended with flavors like Honey cocoa, and it's a great source of protein like maggots or super protein field. And so they're making an ice cream using maggots. And I do think that if it was good we would eat it. Because what's the difference is that in any other insect or bug really, except we're they're bad. I don't look they're not appetizing to me. They don't look, I'm not tot. I see in. I'm like a maggot. Nothing. Sounds good about that. What are some of the word things you though that we go. Nothing nothing like a maggot. Are you know? Exactly. Okay. Here's one same thing. Which of these crazy challenges go viral, but the last one speaking of maggots, not really magazine cockroaches. Kach Roach challenge has people putting live cockroaches on their faces and taking a selfie and putting it on social media. Really? That's how you okay, also cockroaches because again super full of protein. I don't know who started the cockroach challenge, but they've had over six thousand posts of this in the past. You have to find one. Yeah. That's hard practice. Go to. Back of the couch car my teacher in college. He used to teach class with hissing. Cockroaches crawling all over him. But it was an Tamala class. So is all about bugs and he loved bugs. And he would he served maggot pizza sometimes when he would do a bug potluck. Oh, and how good were they? I didn't need it. Are you crazy? Did you ever like the chocolate grasshoppers ever? Now. He had termite brownies. Sure this guy had degree world. Yes. And like sometimes in I had to sit I was late the first day classroom wherever you sat the first day of classes your sign seat. So I was front row. No not row. And sometimes when you teach class at the hissing cockroaches like I was like freaked out when it was going to make its way towards me. But those are very interesting class, but bugs are in everything we eat. I learned that. But still I don't like to think about it takes over. There was. Yeah. Me and all the football players into Tamala g. Oh, yeah. Speaking of schools, you went to there's a kid in Austin high school. He was awarded. No, she was awarded for donate thousands of books her. First name is Melissa cast. Megan wise to collect thousand bucks and now twenty nineteen here. We are collecting fifteen thousand bucks. Wow. And this is Amy's high school. And so she's a junior in Austin. Well, it says Austin high school, but I'm telling you, it's Westlake high school. So which isn't exactly the same. But they started a nonprofit called a thousand books two years ago. And then now they raised fifteen thousand bucks, I love that kid with probably other kid things on their mind, but they decided to go and do something for somebody else. So there's that. Hey, do you know what the ranking is my answer story. I'm my running. Have you looked at that? Because I posted a story of me running a lot of people were giving me a hard time saying that was very flamboyant. I was just trying to show exercise like, hey, get out there and grind it. But then people are like look at you run weirdo. The styles. Definitely unique Mr. Bobby bones right now. Most people. Say that I should not be embarrassed as much as all you were hating all only twenty three percents should be embarrassed. It's gone up though. Hello friends. This is Ron burgundy the entire first season of the Ron burgundy podcast is available now to stream or download and what a season it was heater Dinka JR. Mr. Deepak Chopra said Yego, chicken, Mr. rupaul. We should get out of this elevate. Find the Ron burgundy podcast on the free iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. The Ron burgundy podcast. Another reason why iheartradio is number one for podcasts. It's time for the good news box. Dallas man was working on his home port some concrete doing some work, and he had a medical emergency had to call nine one one. They transported in the hospital. And the firefighters are like man, if he doesn't get this concrete known it's going to be ruined. He's got to start over. So they called some off duty firefighters. Hey, guys, you guys know how to do concrete come over and finish. This guy's job. So off duty firefighter showed up with their tools finish the concrete job. That's a cool. And and the guy did live. I mean, he got he's okay. And that's cool. They hopped in and finish it forum. That's cool. That was telling me something good. Your buddy, Bob. Transmitting across America. About it. Right. Having. Let's go to as paver and Seattle. Yes. What's happening? Live in Seattle. But I've from Arkansas pig, what do you want to say? Well, every for you said that we need to wake up on have. No ours. Time liking them morning show. So I was they pay him, and I marine and mugs rela for laughing this morning, and it was. On and yeah, they started. They believe if you wake up to really upbeat song that it does help you a bit you if you just let's do it for long enough, you start to feel it and she has picked vacation down. Case Raymond does. Right, by the way. Played down. Said that so many people been listening to the song because there's a line about white claw. What's white Collins box? It's a like a spike seltzer. So there's a line in it. So people's Instagram ads have been showing up white claw because listening to the show. And here's it. I heard the GATT deal twelve pack a white cloth. So the ad that pops up is white claw. Isn't that funny? Hey, do I have a way to talk to you guys in that room Ray because we're in it? When you just yell at me on what you're saying. We're in a temporary studio until they rebuild our new studio. So I don't know if I can even talk to Raimondo on the other room thumbs up with down. No, I can't hear you. Okay. But I do have a best top moments for other studio. I heard energy here. I heard it's only three year radio. Okay. Got it. That's why I was like we can't hear right? Talks to me all show through my. And you guys normally can't hear that when we're an enormous studio. Oh here I'm talking about magic. I was like, wait. We can hear it. I wanna know my top five moments are at least I'll give you my number five moment from our old studio that we moved out. Oh, yeah. They're doing demolition on today. Three times a called it. Demolition. Do we get to knock down walls to probably but that'd be fun? Get some anger out. They doing demolition today in the other room. So my number by the way that five moments my five best moments all time from our other studio and drummer, please, thank you. Number five. You know, what number five is kind of a weird because in that other studio in that other room, I met both of my last two girlfriends. Oh, which one more which now the no, no, I'm saying asking as things happen in my life. Like, I met both of them in that room. They're both great relationships. So that's still a top five. Right. Oh, yeah. Let's say because significant part of my life. Okay. Like, I met both of them when they had come in for like an interview. Number five. That's the only place. I meet people mesmerized with your words. That's the only way I can get girls alight me as if I'm like, hey, let me be funny. Somebody like sees me and goes with that, dude. Yeah. But it probably isn't so quickly though, Amy that. I was gonna go into something else that they probably find attracted has your life. Nobody's like able to run the board. Like, he's got his fingers. On reducing it. And then you're also still talking and doing the show and being funny, and it like it looks like you've got a lot of control over the room, which you do which is powerful convey like that. I'm not sure that sexy. No, I them watching. You look at Bobby favorite buttons. No, hey, pay. Are you still there? You still here? What do you think about that? Do you think me pushing buttons sexy because if so I'm just gonna walk down the street the board I'm gonna go to the club or a bar? Yeah. Just a little like producer moving able to check it out. Is like attracted, and he but he kind of like a nerdy job. He's a software engineer at Microsoft. And so like like hearing him talking about his work like programming is way ahead, and I don't understand every so much control. And that's how you are. You're in such control, and you do other things like more than just pushing buttons us. But I think she agrees that it is girls would find it hot. But paper let me ask you this. If see your husband coating, are you like baby just take those takes glasses off and give me some of that. Glasses. I see my husband flying an airplane. It's hot. I mean, I'm pushing button a little bit push button. This happens. Nothing. Nothing. Downfall of maybe that's my by us. Number five moment that is kind of turned on. I watch it watch me do. Okay. Hey, more you number two. You're the only other girl in the room. What do you think about that? Well, I can't really see, gene. Push. The button is not high enough. It isn't the point is the point of you in your limit. This is like you're doing. You're there. They're like watching you do it. And you're you're multitasking, and you're making it all happen. That's tractive able to be funny. And they're like, oh, that's kind of funny. I did say that same time pressing buttons funny up the same. So do you think they're like watching you do the show, and they're like, he's funny? He talks a lot like what I want. And then after you're done with the show, you just like, quiet. I don't talk at all. What happened to that guy that met all the button funny guy that pushes all the slides? Say I have so much to say here. And then I got well ten to one. Shutdown. How? Yeah, I got nothing there. Hey paper. Thank you for the call. Let me do another one. This is is it Reno in Texas. Irena? What's going on good morning studio? Hi, I'm I one caller and I've never gotten through. And I'm so happy that I've gotten through and I shall Indo that y'all brought so much positivity in my life. I went through a really bad depression. And I started listening to you all like a couple of months ago. I just wanna say like, I think y'all gonna bought borrow my heart like really have changed my life and the way I look at things and I really do. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. I'm sorry to hear we're going through that. But if we can be any any part of helping that that makes us feel good. Listen, we feel I feel like my job literally is companionship. Like, if I can't be your friend. And I can't help you get their stuff, then I'm not doing my job. So hope you feel that way. Well, awesome. I really appreciate you do what you're doing do like seriously, even sparred so many people like myself, and I wouldn't be the person. I am today without you guys seriously. Thank you. Thanks for the call. It means a lot. Do you? Get sexy people push buttons. Oh boy. All right, number four moment in our old studio that we left were not in there anymore. We're in a temporary studio. My number four moment all time in the studio is kind of our first or second week in that studio when guests we're coming by and Randy Houser shows up and brings a goat. And it was like, hey, welcome to the studio. Here's a goat. Oh, there's a go in our studio. We're gonna put the pictures up, and this is the same Goto performed with Gary and this song. Everyone. Go go cliff. This. Claim that out go poop cleaner. So. Yeah. Right. Outta go poop in the corner. Yeah. So that's my number four moment in the studio lighter. A good time. Three coming up too. We finally moved out of our old dump of studio. And now we're in a temporary studio, which is quite dumpy as well. But I'm happy to be here temporary. Because when we go back into our other in a couple of months, it is going to be awesome. And so we're we're going through my favorite moments of our old studio at number five was I actually met my last two girlfriends in that studio and number four it was when Randy Houser brought to go to the studio. He's one of our first big guests, anybody go. Go peed and pooped everywhere, which is funny, but that also made people bring other animals to the studio because then glory on brought a parrot, and which also my girlfriend. So sort of bringing burqa animals the studio we're now at number three. Do you have these two I do. Okay. I'll do my number three. Then you can do your number three all time was we had two interns one name Sarah one name random kid, Cody, and I got pretty close to both of them. But really, Cody, and you really liked his girl. And I was like I'll set it up. I'll make sure you cannot get together. It's on made them slow dance on the show and made them go on their first day, and they got married so Montego so me hiring both of them making them go on a date. And then eventually they got married. My number three moment favorite in studio. If you guys don't feel anything after this. It's a clip then we'll never do it again. Okay. So it's your love one of the most romantic songs ever. And I want you to slow dance to it. There you go. Sayers intern and entering Cody. Let's see if they have a sport. All right. You too. Chance to embrace our Cody embrace coating. There you go in that turned into marriage us yelling embrace, think lunch voice goes grabber. But. When you slow dance. No, you don't not time slow too. That's how you know what the likes you or not. If you're slow dancing, you bug grab. And she lets the hand stay there. You're in now. You get in trouble. You don't grab a, but I lo- dance. No. You don't grab a third slow dance. You only got a boat whenever it's been determined. You can grab married that. I don't even have a slow dancing. If I'm like, Ben with someone for is. So fun. That's so trashy like that's not hands on the back pocket when you're slow dancing last, white trashy. Okay. Yeah. Row like going down and grabbing the. Guys. I don't think so not public slow dancing. You guys know slowdowns. Right. I guess I don't I what about let me ask you this question. I'm going to phrase it gently, let's say you're dancing, Amy, and there's a song on and you're it's like a club like hip, hop on and your dancing with a girl. I'll be the dude you'd be the girl don't get grossed out. But let's say as we're dancing. I started to get like, I don't even. The job like that. Or? No, like, if I I don't know. I don't wanna talk about never even said what you're. I think that it. I think that it's probably awkward is. Okay. Let me ask more. The is that attractive? I don't know. Like should've embarrassed twelve runaway Morgan to you're dancing with due to the club. And you kinda happens. Do you like it or not? It's it's like a weird thing you feel a compliment. 'cause you're like, I cool. You're like this is also really uncomfortable. Now, I have to get out of this shoes at uncomfortable. Yes. Is it ever? Like, this is like, for example, you're at the club right now. The sudden. Justin bieber. Visit every. And and also you feel him. Like, you're in damn totally. Is that still weird? Yeah. It's that's that's a little too. I and over public space. You know, interesting. I shouldn't dance anymore with girls. Do that a lot every girl? I don't even know. You don't know think Ryan? When you're growing and new. Oh. Guys. Yeah. You better. They feel. One of the restroom haven't. I should never dance case. What are we talking? Well, I was just talking about setting the terms of the dance. That's my. That's my wow. What is your number three moment? Amy all-time studio. My number three moment would be when you blindfolded me. And I had no idea lie and you had someone coming in. And it was the prize. And I got two guests who she was. But then I never I never quite guests. And Finally, I got to take the bible off, and it was frigging Amy grant for me. Hey, he's going to hog. That's pretty cool. She was my first concert ever as a kid. And like, I I love her. So that was cool. Number two. Do you have one of those? I number two moment was when Jake Owen got rained out at sea a fest and we brought him in to play his set live like the next morning. You were just kind of like he was running out like come play your full say here, we won't cut you off. And we won't take you off stage. And that was our first total like full band in-studio concert that we ever did. And it just like was it was it felt so cool. Also calling him to do it too. Because Jake I hate eating to do said, you got this whole show to do it. And he did. Let's go to. My number two is I got an Email from a friend one night. And it was like, hey, man. Just I just want you to hear the song because my friend and have record L or anything. So let's do it was like, oh how about that? That's toll Raymond. I said, hey load that up on the computer I may throw to 'cause it's a really good song. But I don't think nobody knew the artist and he didn't have a deal. And so I had like forty extra seconds one morning before I go to commercial. So I hit the song and it played unless there's like, oh, those interesting would you play that again, it's all played it again. And then we started to see this unsigned artists to climb the chart, and then by the end of the show thing was number one, mammy Christians and any kind of launched his career, which is really cool for us because it was not deliver it. It was just all got a buddy who you made me a song. It's pretty good. Let's play if we have time and it turned into by the end the show we were like champion, and look you can do as making number one. I was awesome. It was a really a special day for it was for about for our listeners because our listeners of this show have more power than anybody else a country music period to change the landscape of anything TV show ratings songs like there's not a bigger more powerful than the listeners not us. But then the listeners of this show, and they've shown that a few times sense. What songs girl crush by me about? It could go go on. But our listeners have a lot of lot of say so in this format. So I was pretty proud of that you're never one moment. Amy L hands down. This is so easy for me. You had me on the phone with George strait. And we were in the studio, and I'm just talking to him because he called in. And I thought he was in Texas. And then next thing I know that studio door opens and in locks George strait with the cell phone. Ozier still talking on the phone. But now he's in that Zuhdi Al, and I was like hot. I mean, I just I freaked out. From from by. Hey. The first time. Yeah. And longtime injured straight, and I love how he he was total an actor Modi's next time in town come by there. And then there was and I just I've is almost speechless. It's funny. Our number one's very similar because yours was meeting George strait in that studio as we talk about our favorite moments and our studio, which we moved out of and mine is the first time, I got to meet Gorth. Yeah. And I was like holy crap. Came in. And it was crazy because Jane one Garth Brooks is the biggest selling American artist of all time and it came in. And he was like what are you gonna play? And I was like a play tomorrow never comes. So he does play. And I was like, I don't know James Taylor. And he plays fire and rain. This is crazy. And then it's weird now that Gartner of our semi social, and we're cool. But that's the point. That's my favorite moment. Ever was getting Garth for the first time. So yeah, there are some others that were close John merica hanging out for a while. It was good. That was a fun one. They've come to your mind. Let's marks. Yeah. When we had amber, Portwood and Kayla Lowery from teen. Mom, when we when you guys the prize with them in the studio have you blindfolded night, ask them ten questions to figure out who they were number one moment by far we got chair sponsored by artists. Our company wouldn't buy chairs so guard sent me a chair dark spin lease at Amy chair. Carrie Underwood's lunchbox chair? Tim McGraw Eddie McGrath chairman cross and thirty. One that I'm almost the less. But it was went out to finally told you that. I was I went to see your kids and Haiti. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That wasn't that city, and it these are powerful moments because everything that you're mentioning even lunch box. And then my stuff that we're talking about like, I just I picked like it was yesterday. And we're all sitting in our little chairs, I feel like. We'll never forget those moments. But we're so glad to get out of that dumb of. That we were using like DJ's twenty years ago, we're using them. And so we're in a temporary room. But in a couple of months, we're going to be rocking. We've got a whole studio Bill for television. So it's gonna be pretty cool. The adventures in game is now the second biggest movie of all time. It's made two point two seven billion dollars only ever beaten by. Avatar? Correct avatars the biggest movie of all time still adventures in game and number two avengers endgame. We'll catch it though. I haven't seen it yet. I'm gonna try and see it Saturday. I'll be in California this weekend for the next last idol episode, and I think Saturday night, I'm gonna go watch it nice who seen it might loved. It. Eddy, I've seen it fried two times. And nobody else has seen it. You don't want to know I want to. But I gotta wait and figure out a time to go with the kids adventures. Yeah. It's a must see right. Yeah. We have it on our list of things to do. We just haven't been around to do it. Amy. What's up with you today? Was speaking of the kids I'm excited because share has youth groups and for the first time, you know, she's officially twelve. Oh, is that the role to get in the cutoff a twelve? I don't know. I think it's just now shit refinery. She had ballet on Wednesday nights. But we're we're sort of done with that. And now she's going to attend her first Wednesday night youth group from six to eight PM, and like APM, that's cool. You through a big part of my life. Yeah. Two nights. So I'm excited for her. No, she's excited. And I hope she makes them. Friends, and it's close to the house. So that would be good to maybe in like neighborhood people with. Yeah, we're going to walk her there drop her off youth if she's us walking what if you walk from far behind other kids are like fifteen. Okay. Well, Walker to the corner, you know, I'm just saying for her sake like fifteen or sixteen year olds. They're and they see are getting walked by parents. Is that fair? Yeah. Man. 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Feedback + idea management is half science, half art - Rose Yao @ Google Maps Platform

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Feedback + idea management is half science, half art - Rose Yao @ Google Maps Platform

"There's nothing as powerful as actually talking to a user product in our ideal state would be building billion person were billion dollar products in order to do that. It's not about what's inside your company or what's on that dashboard about what's happening outside. I know this is somewhat frustrating for people who are just starting product management career. The intuition will come. Hey product friends. Welcome back to season six of product a product a podcast produced by road muck new episodes of the product a product. Podcast go live every other Tuesday. Thank you so much for following along and listening to our previous seasons we really appreciate it and we hope it's added to your pm tool kit for this season. Were talking about feedback idea management. How does your team go from feedback to feature? We'll have PM's shirt tactical advice and examples from their on the job experience here at road monk we have tools to help you do things like capturing managing user feedback prioritizing product ideas and building border ready. Roadmaps we just launched our new feedback an idea management features visit road monk DOT COM to learn more and sign up for a free trial. Now let's get the episode rolling. Welcome to another episode of product to product. I'm your host Amy Chan and I'm a content marketing specialist on the road team. I also produce an edit this podcast series today we have rosie out a senior director of product management from Google maps platform with us. Thank you amy rose. Can you tell us who you are? What your role at Google maps platform is and maybe for those. That are not familiar. The difference between Google maps. Which I think we're very familiar with and the enterprise side. Which is the Google maps platform that you work on. My Name's rose and been a product manager for Gosh fourteen years now so my latest job as amy said is ask the senior director of product for Goumas Platform. And the I think the best way to talk about it is actually to maybe give you guys a brief origin story on on this enterprise product so when Google maps launched over you know ten years ago it was very much a consumer product and then people quickly started packing the product to make their own Mac mashups so the most famous one was like the craigslist mapping twirl. Where you can see all the apartments around you on the map which is super useful right and they did that without any support from Google. So you know very quickly breath Taylor who was the original. Pm on Google maps who's now the CEO salesforce actually said okay. Well there's clearly demand let's actually making the API that people can use legitimately so that we can provide the service for the world we want just API it was web and Java script only is very advanced for its time is completely free for developers and was in a couple months. We actually had businesses. Call US and say hey. Can we please pay you for this? Isn't that crazy so that they actually said we would like to pay for this for two reasons one? We want a little more bandwidth and scale. You're providing for your free product and then to because we want you to take seriously we would like to run our business on this platform and we figure if we pay you. You won't change your mind so there was a need really wanted it. They really wanted to. And it's so funny because today we take it so much for granted that you know a map embedded in every service we use. Whether it's Expedia or Uber were INSTA- car or You Know Really Hotel Dot com any of these sites that you think are yeah have a real component right but back in the day you know the best you can do is linked to mapquest. This became kind of you. Know a business on. Its own very much before. Google had enterprise product. Line right So that's a mascot form. It's really what I think about is taking the best maps and everything. We learned from building a consumer product. Four billion plus people and bring it to the rest of the businesses in the world who have some way of allowing their users to interact with the real world. It's really fun because I get to leverage a lot of my consumer product background I spent ten years on products like G. Mill like facebook photos and also learn how to run a business at Saint Time. You mentioned you have fourteen years of experience in the PM World. Then you mentioned you've worked on g mail and FACEBOOK was product always your sort of career trajectory funny. Because I don't think I'm very old but answering this question. I Study Computer Engineering College and those actually according to my parents a little bit of a step down because my dad is a physicist course. There's no you know everything is just now technical science. It's not really yeah so he was a little disappointed that you go and I study computer engineering because I figured some version of electrical and computer engineering will be valuable. No matter what you know. In the stray went to into totally honest my dream job was to be imagine. You're Dizzy L. Wow yes yeah. Because I grew up I came to the US ten. I remember watching Disney films. And just being you know truly delighted and feeling like it's so magical and I was like I can work for this company building new things. That sounds amazing. You're actually the second guessed that has mentioned Disney as one of your favorite product companies So clearly they do a very good job hooked on their product line. When Walt Disney's started Disney they had a very simple mission. The world make people happy. Yeah and I think that you know at least when I came to the. Us refers time in saw this new product so into the seaworld Very true No I think they still make awesome content from Pixar and I just watched star wars marvel `nother stack but if you're lot more like a media and Business Brown. Yeah a Business Empire. Rather than something truly magical. I think I think they're still an ALMANAC right. Yeah there's a lot of talk about pairings and mentorship in startup tack especially for women of Color. Was there someone that sort of showed you the ropes? You know I've been very lucky to have had some great mentors along my career. I've had terrible managers too. I feel like you gotTa know the batter. Oh Yeah right but I think there's a couple people that stand out so one was actually before I even started out as a product jour- I was a senior in high school and looking for my first internship before that my job summer fast food retail like any other teenager right so I really need someone to take a chance on me even though I had like no background at that Point Yeah. I think one of the things that stood out was when I started on this internship. I was around the by all these guys who have employed with computers their whole life but there was a woman and she was a a black woman of color. She was working at Sandia national labs and she took a chance on me and said you know what I think you're smart. I think yeah potential. I'm GonNa give you this internship. Yup and I'm GonNa try to help you succeed. Yup and she was incredibly kind and I intern there for three years. Before I decide to transition to injure Microsoft and then get a job at Google What a great progress worked out but yeah I mean I think that was actually very notable for me because I think it's always that first step right for someone to take a chance and to say you know they're maybe someone has had more time to code in their free time more computer hardware. But I believe in you and I want to give you a chance right. So let's dive into a little bit about the theme. So the theme is feedback and idea management sort of how to take feedback from your customers into helping. Grow your feature or improve on them in your experience. What's the best way to collect customer data? Or how do you like to do it? This is a question that people ask a lot and I wanna say the key is that every product is different Right and also that every company is different. Somebody's have a lot of resources. Megan they can invest in. This and other companies are tiny. And you kind of have to be resourceful. So I'll give you kind of the three big buckets. Thank about you back in and that talk about the different ways. I use each one. So first and foremost is usually Looking at how. Your existing customers are using your product. And I like to do you like the macroeconomics version. That which is looking at your dashboards in your key metrics so really just diving into numbers you have and saying okay like ease. The business where the product trending up or down is a growing faster or slower. Those are just simple questions. You can answer right away. Yeah and then usually. It's about coming that day. That a little bit by your intuition so by country by language by customer segments by email business ties by user ties by age. All those different things can give you a different pitcher and that usually gives us what we call finding where the smoke is going to in going and diving deeper into that leads to the second piece of bucket of feedback which is the quality of the feedback. So in my fourteen years I will say there's nothing as powerful as actually talking to a user of your product right whether or not And there's also something very motivating about that both were product managers and actually I would say for engineers as well because there's a real person who is expressing their delights whether their annoyance with your project you know I've had I've seen so many people I walk out some USABILITY STUDIES. Seeing like yeah. I'M GONNA go fix that right now. I'm empowered to make this person happier so a lot of it is just about actually asking people. How do they use your product? Why do they use your product? What makes him happy? What doesn't make them happy? And the couple of caveats to that one which I think is very important especially for new product managers. Todd l. These ten people and try to make them as the version representative of your customer segments possible. Because it's too easy to kind of fall into a feedback. Loop tried to make sure that person does not know you. So the worst thing I feel like executives Europeans can do is come to an engineering team said well. My Mom told me my friends are using this and they said it's right. It's right any it's always useful. But you gotta take the stuff agreeing assault right and you have to be careful about overcoming about one very vocal persons feedback but usually after five or six conversations. A trend comes out pretty quickly and then again. If you have the resources I highly recommend you know hiring someone whose job and who's studied how to do research because they know how to ask unbiased feedbacks. They know how to get to the goal of your questions. Rather than just the answer is south right because I'll give you an example often. Icpm say do you like this feature right. I did not right. I mean to be fair. Actually most people will say yes because they are. They try to be nice. Yeah that's actually a PM was saying that A lot of people who are active abusers. They don't like to offend people. So right so it's difficult to tease out actual feedback that way. Yeah so it is actually really tricky so often when we design these studies right will say we're trying to grew ten people. We want three of them to be brand new users. They're even to be lightly users and three of them to be power users and right the last one is like whatever we can recruit the easiest right We want we might talk about demographics. Like we're looking to understand how this product performs with Teenagers Great. Yes versus with you. Know MOMS right does can have very different kinds of feedback so like anything else. You'll get what you put into right so designing that designing your user studies right user feedback sessions. Just thoughtfully as design. Your product means that you'll get the best feedback and the best insights from. Yeah from the exercise. Slap it together you can. I know you might just kind of I think the problem by creating Echo Chamber of what you think is important but the third thing that is also I think really valuable and not be ignored is it's important to talk to the people who work on the product right so also my advice for new product leaders whether they're young junior or senior is to spend at least the first month talking to everyone who works on the product and asking them. What do they think is the most valuable thing to do? What do you what do they wish they spend time on whether you? What do they think is going? Well not going well because one if you can go wrong at least you know why. They had the opinions they do. Yeah right but two more often than not frankly most of the time. The team have allowed great insights and again. If you listen well you'll find that commonality and you'll be able to create a more unified vision and Romance that everyone can get really excited about You mentioned in our pre interview that you think tying the customer feedback to strategy and using it is actually just part science and part art. And I know a lot of PM's reading books and they're reading blogs and say. How do I do this properly? But can you explain what you mean by part science and Part Art Yeah Totally so the sands part is a little bit wet. What I just talked about. So you had to update the tobacco up your intuitions. Where your assumptions were the strategy that you're proposing right but you know it's Kinda I'll give you an example in some ways I might be making fun of my own company a little bit. Not everyone has the luxury of running an experiment for one hundred shades of blue So if we have all the time and resources in the world yes we could ask every single question right turnover ivory stone comparative data every single possibility and tried to find the right answer. But even Google. We don't have time for that ramp. I know where huge company but frankly we always resource constraints this right. So the key is we won't hire product managers because we're looking for people with judgment Who have done this job or have you know. Thought hard enough and lived you know in the data in the feedback on the product and understand the market are excited about tack to say. I WanNa make some bets. My intuition says that You know for instance the on demand economy is GONNA continue growing. Yeah right and we should dive deeper into what those customers need. And what the next big trend that in that industry is right now. That's that means that there's some version of you putting a stakeout their right verses here our current customers. Here's the hundred industries we could go into. Let's just go one by one very by the book very by the book. Yeah so and I know this is Komo frustrating for people who are just starting prog management career. The intuition will come like. How do you develop this intuition for problem solving when facing customer input so part of the time experience part of it is? I think you mentioned problem solving right so I think part of it is. There's two things. One is a lot of product. Managers have engineering degrees. Not all but quite a few and certain people have you know business degrees but the key is college. I think if you learn nothing else from college it is the ability to learn To dissect the problem right so. Don't think that you have nothing going for you right. You solve problems before in your life. Maybe they're unlimited to school. Were to your personal life or to a side project but you know how solve problems Risa. Just get excited and be curious right. The second is generally right when I hire park managers even junior ones. I'm looking for people pretty good taste. People who into we understand working talk about why a product works and why product doesn't you've had something like a vacuum cleaner and I'm serious like you know if you've tried the dyson vacuum versus a normal maquis know why they charge a lot. More during products are truly delightful. And the person who can explain that. Iranian who can really thinks through what makes a delight fall in means that you have the potential and the fundamentals of product tuition right so and then the other thing I want to be beyond just listening to your owning stinks and also Getting more experience making decisions is used the team that sarongs you write us. Your mentors use your manager. Use the senior engineer. Sean team and say I'm thinking about Xyz. What do you think yeah right so too often? I feel like we make our jobs harder for ourselves by trying to be the lonely genius ray that we have to have all the answers and that we must go into cave and come out with like the iphone where the air pots right the Mexico product. Yeah for the most part. That doesn't happen. I think we can all agree that the jobs. It is a nominally. Not Email a pattern and so for the most part we had to. You know this is a team sport right. So don't be afraid to put yourself out there and to maybe throw something you think is a crazy or dumb idea and you know find the workplace right and the job where you can have the psychological safety to do that. Because you'll learn faster pay product friends. It's Latif Road. Ceo and CO founder. I hope you're digging this episode so far. I wanted to remind listeners that this podcast is produced by US road bumps where we offer. A simple and powerful road mapping software. But that's not all the road. Monk Team has been working on some very exciting things big things and I'm beyond stoke to share them with you. Just release feedback idea management suite. Now Road Mound can help you and the rest of your team. Centralized customer feedback then link that feedback to the product ideas to create a backlog. That's validated by your users. We've also built prioritization. Templates that help you. Surface the highest impact ideas initiatives. You should be focusing on then commit to making. Those ideas happened by promoting them to your roadmaps. We're excited for you. To check out the new feedback and idea management suite. I'm inviting you to try it out for free by signing up for a trial at road. Monk DOT COM now. Let's get back to the episode. What are some things you think a? Pm should know at all times about their product. Maybe it's like their day. This is like a checklist that they go through. And if it's database does this mean then. Pm should be very data savvy. Yeah I think so. Basic data savviness is necessary by. Don't think all PM see to be incredibly in a goal. I often think that they are None of us are great at everything. Indifferent PM's great at different things where they have a product that is very future facing like. I'm hiring someone forty A. Rv Our efforts for instance. I'm not looking for someone who is really a data. I'm looking for someone. Who's really creative? Whose lobe of a dreamer right. Because that's what that role requires but when I'm looking for someone for the growth team right. They need to be. They used to love data to be able to read that to have intuitions about how to cut the data to get the insight. Need right Ford infrastructure really the efforts. I'm looking for someone very technical. Who's almost an engineer? So that's my answer for this every. Pm needs to be as Addie right. Yeah but here's the thing here's what I do my coffee every morning When when I'm not mad leaf basically I look at you know about half a dozen key stats yeah And the trend lines that you know. Follow them so I usually look at one of the main dashboard is for my product or business. When I was on facebook fellows it was number of shared per user per day right and I wanNA see. Is that going up or down. Ray is a falling trends. What does it look like your every year? And they want and they and they look at it every day not because I expected to change every day but because I want to be familiar enough with the state up to detect nominees and to see if there's something changing the world that the data's telling me great so that would be my absolute minimal if that there's like one or two big stats ray. Whether it's revenue were engagement that your product is responsible for may be look at that every day. It should take you five minutes. You know with your coffee right The other thing I do every day which is not usually something that I've heard people talk about is I actually do keep track of Tech News and headlines every day because I think one of the areas that PM should be looking for ideas and should have pretty good kind of passive knowledge on is worse the world going. What start ups are gaining traction? What is this big new breakthrough that people are excited about? What's what's Buzzy on today right and I think it's also just kind of fun but the key is i. I find myself piecing things together in random ways as as we talk about products. So you know for instance. I was talking to find out about river and was like I wonder if he now the delivery services and the ready meal systems will ever come together right to create a way for busy parents to get delivered you know. They're they're like meal package of the day right. I wonder if they'll ever Lau pre ordering for meals right so it's kind of like knowing these different trends and figuring out if there's an opportunity so what I'm hearing you say as you sort of have to step back and look at the not just focus on product but look at what else is happening around the world in terms of trends that's right because ultimately we're building products to serve the world right and all of us in our ideal state will be building billion person. Were billion dollar products in your zoo that right. It's not about what's inside your company or what on that dashboard is about what's happening outside. In a scenario where your customers have been giving you a lot of feedback sounding off about a big problem with your product or your APP. What's the first order of business as a PM? So usually it's identified the right customers to talk to to understand the problem better and we talked about that little bit earlier right so making sure. It's the representatives set ray. Making sure that you're not just to one segment right. And that they really. They will be articulate motivated as well So in the case that you have someone a big problem I liked identify. Usually customers are really unhappy and then customers who are actually pretty happy right so you understand why they're different the second thing once you identify the customers is not to ask them. Hey what why was this problem? What would you like us to build right that same medium response because frankly we as human beings in this project managers? We really want to help. It's our job right. It brings you joy to say I fix this. I made this better. But if he jumps straight into that you'll often missed out on the real problem so Usually like to take a step back. And say hey. How're you doing today? Tell me more about Your Business. War Your Life right so you know. Let's say let's take a problem that probably more more people will understand. So let's say you're talking to college. Students are about why they like facebook. Were not yet right. You might say like hey you know like tell me how you tell me how how life is going. Are you busy at school? What's your daylight right? And then you might say oh. So how do you communicate with your friends right? How do you keep up on? What's going on campus? And listen to them as they talk about the products. They're using right and that she gives you competitive insights as well so our day using what's act or instagram in different ways than the main APP are using Google Ray And or are they using tedtalk right And I really don't know why people use take dog. I'm telling me like an old person I feel you man. I didn't stop working on Social Product. I was like I don't have to use this but But yeah like it's it's important to be curious about their whole life's right. It sounds like you're really like you know giving yourself too big a space by find these background. Conversations can take late ten minutes but give you a lot of insights that one of the key one cool things to do for consumer product managers to say like. Hey Casey or foam and look at. What's on the front screen of their full? What apps are there and ask them how they use each one? The what right and nowadays. Maybe look at screen time right and ask them how. They're spending their time right. And why again the? Why is the key and then once you have that usually there's a natural Lebron to how they use your product very but if there's not you can just jump into and be like okay. So do you ever use my product right and they'll be like oh sometimes but only for XYZ. And when I do I really and you'll be like Oh what happens when you try to use it back and then let them tell you about the problem and then because you have all this context about the user you won't just jump into. How would you design eggs yield? You ask questions like so when you're trying to communicate with your friends are using this product and fails you in these ways now. That's why you go back to this other product right. Yeah that takes a very active in good listener. That's right and I think the key is the best product. Managers probably listened a lot better than they talk right Can we talk about tooling for Awhile? I know a lot of PM. Listen to this for tips and tricks and seeing what other PM's use so they can maybe try it themselves in terms of your team. Are there any tools that you used to collect? End Consolidate all this feedback or shared across different teams. Save that were pretty simple. We use Google docs me. But let's just say any type of collaborate docks were spread. Sheeting tool often really helpful. Ray because I think that some point people have a hard time like one. Everyone's got meeting fatigue right though. I try not to have too many meetings where Che's information sharing unless it's really really relevant to a large group of people and so giving people well documented findings to read is really helpful. The other I used to do when I was consulting work in startups as user pest dot com to pretty simple products where you can basically design your own questions regarding for you. They even send you recordings video. Recordings audio recordings as people are cooking through screens Okay good full story. Yes I think that was really helpful and actually like a pretty reasonable for scrappy scrappy. Ike testing the only caveat to that is that because the users on that platform are so used to going through on boarding flows. They're so good at it. It really good at it. So like design your scripts carefully writing and just be thoughtful. The other thing we do. Is We do user. Studies will often just live broadcast it. So we'll use like you know like any sort of video Broadcasting to zoom or go announce that other people on the team can view the user study or user interview Without being in the room. Because often you can't to people in the room otherwise. The customer user gets kind of freaked out right. Oh yeah I would totally like having you know eight people. Watch me use a new APP. Oh would freak me out so I think the rule of thumb is no more than like two person per user. And that's the Max. Right yeah So those are those are some of the tools we use. Oh the other thing is obviously Some sort of like survey monkey or Google poll is free. Ray Demographic were high level information right about your customer is awesome really helpful so some version of happiness interview ray. Like how satisfied. Are you with this product We tend to do that like once. A quarter at least Rose what are some of your interests that are completely non tech related? Oh Yeah oh I have so many. So let's see I've until this year when I had my baby I got to teach pilates part-time. Oh cool yeah so for the last five plus years. I would teach on the weekends evenings at the Studio Zimmer's Go Kor Forty so I'm really into fitness. I love kind of the Break it gives you from a super mental job that we have right and I also think that like the as as elwood said in legally blonde endorphins. Make everyone better. Your Voice is very soothing for low. Yanni's teacher yeah you'll get your training too so for my team holiday party. One year I taught a class for my for my team and I had this ATM on my team. And she said you know your your. Your lobbyist voice is very similar to your like teaching voice because for my youngins. Apparently have a teaching voice yeah. Pm's for my head on the related topic accolades title money. Just you're very comfortable with everything and money didn't matter what would you be doing other than teaching pilates? I would say I'd taken multiple breaks my career. Some of them are assures among some were As long as six to nine months right And I have to say I really do love this job so I think that even if everything else was done I was still being involved in tech in some way I think there's a couple of different paths there One is I really love? I took a year to do consulting And to run my own consulting firm said a lot of one on one work of founders and product leaders come Avai Combo version of executive coaching and product consulting so. I really loved that it was. It's really rewarding to be able to focus on the person but still use a lot of my experiences and to help them be successful and help a business be successful but I will. I will say this like there's something pretty magical about the combination of technology people and product problems that come with this job and to build a team and the businesses attack right So it's hard to get that up because it's sort of like you know like you get addicted to the mental stimulation of it. But I would if I could. I would travel six months out of the year Live in different parts of the world. I wish teleportation was real expensive. Bali's expenses San Francisco. That'd be great If there was such thing as startup prom for product people. What would be the song that you would request song rose? Oh that's hilarious. The rocky theme song. I go okay emotional yet. I feel like he no. We all need a little bit of motivation because in the morning and he served are so up and down. It's exhausting Right I mean my husband brings thirty percents startup and we talk about it. But we don't really talk about it to all signed world. You're always killing it right. No one talks about it when fundraising's hard work you know there's trouble infant -ployees where you just feel like you're reinventing the wheel over and over again and what everyone says when they leave. The startup is the highs are really high. The lows are really low and they can frankly be in the same day. Oh my gosh. That's hard right so yeah I think you know it's it's it's a game for an athlete right And we should recognize and support each other a little bit more and there's one which I had for everyone community is to talk our failures alone more honestly and to not just be like everything's wonderful all time right and perfect because I think we're better actually do better work then right. I'm rose. Is there anything else you'd like to add? I was say that especially to the women are starting out in tech war. The ones that are mid career. Were the ones like me. Who are trying to figure out how juggle a career and motherhood the same time Yeah right I will be totally on this. I do think it's harder being a woman in this in this world in this industry. So Find Your tribe. Find your friends and don't be afraid to be low vulnerable and reach out to people but the other thing. I want to say is that we often don't recognize that. What makes what makes his job harder. Ray for women are also unique skills and assets we have at our disposal We tend to be more empathetic right. you tend to have tend to be better listeners and therefore lobby skills make you better managers into the fleeing moms or certainly way more efficient with their time. Moms are supermom honestly. I've seen my friends. You know my my cousin is I. Don't know how they do exhausted hanging out with their kids for two hours right. I was exhausted to toews. Maya and then like I'd still exhausted but some or warning now. Yeah where can our listeners? Find you online. Do you write on medium do you. I don't I never got into down much. 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Who's There: Rita Wilson & Pete Buttegeig?

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Who's There: Rita Wilson & Pete Buttegeig?

"You will. They wanna know. To lift fame. It woke up to who weekly the puck us real. And everything you need to know about the celebrities. You don't Bobby finger. I'm Lindsey Weber, and we're not going to talk about this on the show. But I wanted to read it since you just text it to me fake heiress. Anna Sorkin has another fashion meltdown in court. And then this is the New York Post wanna be socialite, Anna Sorkin broke down in court Wednesday, and they're their leaders. This is beyond diva VO and organ through yet, another fashion hissy fit Wednesday, again, refusing to enter court because the clothes she was given or not up to her standards. They're quote, I told you previously. We were not holding up the style anymore over your fashion. Justice Dianne Kiesel reprimanded Sorek twenty eight when the alleged Griff Dermer Chd from the holding cell wearing wrinkled white button down in slacks. I've had a jury here since nine thirty this morning. This is unacceptable and inappropriate. This is not a fashion show. She looks good. Honestly, then they went to lake they went to. It's like a she. She looks incredible. It's a secret. Goal. It's chic Rico. It's a very intentional wrinkle. I look at that. And I say like, oh is that, you know, spring summer twenty nineteen fashion to have a wrinkle. I dunno. I mean, she's got to use these somehow these outfits, right? Like, you know, she she has them. I apparently she has them. What's going to happen with her go to jail? Yeah. Definitely yesterday. Also, did you see the footage of Lori and Felicity and during court and Lori was like signing autographs. Oh, yeah. And she was like, hey, guys. Like, hey, guys. Hey pals, so offensive. Yeah. Beaming ear to ear at least at least Felicity Huffman had the self respect to like go grocery shopping stone-faced like when she went out in public. She did not smile smile. How dare you? Thank your fans. I think she may be had like a Felice on very relatable said pay. Mike's pay my to wish in law. Did you hear that? If I were at the court hearing for Laurie Laughlin, Lori lock Glenn. I definitely would've yelled pay my tuition Queen. Long. Oh my God. What did you read the rumor that that I don't know that I buy one word of this? But that William H Macy has been spotted on rye. Whoa. Where did that come from? Well, even on gossip cop. It's according to life and sell the couple's marriage on the rocks amid the fallout from the controversy and bizarre twist. The magazines has Huffman somehow discovered that her husband was using celebrity dating app Araya and lead to a major battle between the spouses of more than twenty years. But like was he spotted on Ryan. I mean who knows who knows who told me this. It was like, oh, it was Katri. Of course. Of course. It was Kate. There's just like trouble in paradise for any number of reasons. So things are not looking great for with the last time things with great for the up, and I feel like her her mugs were on sale before the college admissions. With the monks you in the mugs. Do you want? Do you think about like what happened to the mugs? Like, what's what's going on at H? What's going up with the flick HQ? I'm telling you, it's the end of raiders of the lost ark. It's like the guy is rolling in. One final palette of unsold mugs crane shot showing the rest of the flicker warehouse fill to beryllium with unsold. Like, I'm a cool. I'm I'm good enough. Mom, everybody quick. But there's like two interns that like weren't getting paid. Anyways, we were trying to figure out what to do. We need college credit. The irony what flick? Momentum. What's the battle circle like to go where they can't wait could say fuck rack. Yeah. It's like the Felicity Huffman version of frac. Yeah. He's lying bracket. Right. I don't give a frac. It's to shoot silence of the Franken sky. No, Franken Ueli. Felicity and William are yelling at each other. You're on flick Araya right now flicking looking riot. Oh. If I fling come into this looking house, and I find you flick. You mother flicker. How many times I have to tell you have to drink out flicking flick modes whenever you have coffee in the morning, we've flicking need to move on. This is getting flicking ridiculous. It's getting. Pig is longtime first time, I'm so happy. We're still talking about Elizabeth filbert's because she wrote the worst description of a penis that has ever been sent into the universe and her novel the signature about things we were treated to this gym. He had genitalia perfectly adequate and even impressive genitalia. She allowed herself to observe with care. This lovely appendage on his tail waving see creature which floated between his legs, and it's that's what and private. Hated this book so much. I want to throw it into the sea. And I'm happy to share it with you. Now. I'm not I don't know. I mean to me that sounds like maybe the best description of a penis that I've ever heard, and I feel like she's still a brilliant writer. So I don't know what to tell you caller. They mean, this caller wanted us that this was bad. But actually, I think it's great. Yeah. Beautiful. I mean, she's she's my conic writer, one of the English language is like most legendary masters of prose. I don't know. It's perfect one of our finest talents, which floated between his legs in its thatch of wet and private for Acura when private for is actually accurate. But in private for deserves a fucking EMMY. And I know it's on a TV show up deserve Pulitzer private for wet and in. As ING Elizabeth Gilbert, Mike five it when private eye conic writer conic like sexuality warrior. I love we have to move. So I just listened to you is the we calling. You guys talk about peak spending keep that in failing. How like kind of a weird tearing, and I have this theory. I wanna run by you guys. Kate beckons L as a show on Amazon prime. It's called like the widower something like that. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. I don't know anyone who's watch it. So I'm thinking maybe like this whole relationship is maybe for publicity to try and get people to watch for show because every time there in the news. It's like nothing scandalous, but something kinda like low like when they were making out at that hockey game. And I mean who knows you know, could be real and good for them. It's so it's just kind of interesting because every time I go on the first shows that comes up. So the interesting to revise thoughts on that. Is Kate conceal actually in love with Davidson's wet and private for or is this just split. He's. Five. I it for I think everything's saying use of hard for me to see theory. Not I would like the timing. This premiered March first hockey game was March third. The timing makes sense. Or game stuff. No. Is it working? No. So it's like if it's suppose that he's it's not an effective what? Because I to get told by Amazon to watch the widow every time I opened up Amazon prime like the video app, and I've never even I've never even thought it. I've seen it one million times. And it's never given me the impulse to actually look what it is. You know, he needed a comeback to or like a rebound moment as well. And team we needed publicity. It does make sense for both of them to do it. But I almost think that it's they're both hot and funny in that makes more sense to me in for me. If like, an autumn's razor, what's the most likely situation? And I think it's this you I think that she's probably like secretly like this a good gig for me like this is a good. This is helping me in many ways and him saying, oh, this is helping me in many ways. Sure. But like, I don't know if I believe this fully, I don't know either. Because she there is precedent. Locked. She does date younger men like it's not it's. It's not out of character for her to date like younger, who's just look at the guy that she dated before Pete who was like run, you know. But I just before we move on. I wanna read what the premise because I had no idea the series follows Georgia wells back and sale. The widow whose husband whose husband will died in a plane crash on a trip to Africa three years after Will's death. She saw a man resembling. Her husband at a new story reporting, civil unrest in the Democratic Republic of Congo suspecting that everything is not what it seems wells travels to shut to uncover the truth. She starts to look for answers, particularly concerned with the reason why husband she believes faked his own death. It's like what if the Livia Newton John and her ex who allegedly victims that were written by like, John lecarr? Look, John Le Carre all the John moment. It's actually ho Larry's at that hasn't been mentioned more widely because it just proves that no one is talking about this show and xactly. That's why could say this is literally not work what she needs to do is pull a Macy gray. And just like where? Close and blazoned with the widow pro on that when she's it's also just funny that she's out with Pete and would be promoting show called the widow. I mean, this culture is not ready for content about widows widows flopped this show, flopped presumably, yeah, it's true. Where are the widows widows just bursting with light creative? Intrigue the creative possibilities. It's all good shit. But what does culture care cultures here in? I don't know. It's misogyny probably prob. What is next in Bobby? I was hoping we could take a moment just to pay respects to nipsy house. It's been really hard week for a lot of us. Yeah. Just want to say that. Monday, we could a little sad. So that's one of the reasons why we didn't really talk about it. But this rapper slash kind of everything. He owned a store he had like businesses. He basically did everything this kind of multi hyphen guy named nipsy hustle. He was a gun down at his own store in California in Los Angeles. And it's just like really sad. And I kind of I guess he was nominated for best rap at the Grammys this year two thousand nineteen he is from Crenshaw. And that's where he opened his store. And that's where he mostly hang out. And he was like a big deal not neighborhood. I mean, he we kind of left and came back to his hometown. So that was like a huge deal. And he meant a lot to a lot of people. And so when he was killed people were really kinda shook it is really sad. The caught the main suspect it's a guy named Eric Holder. I don't know like what we what we say about this. It's really sad nipsy and nipsy dated Lauren London. That's gonna say. How I knew about nipsy was through Lauren London. London. Lauren London, whose an actress you sedate little Wayne? She has kids little Wayne. And then she was in that really good movie AT L member that from back back in the day. She played new everyone that she was going to blow up, and then she didn't blow up, but like she definitely did find a now she's on the game, which is a BT show anymore. But. A couple years. He went out again over the big game with the big big big big big big big hit. She wasn't on at the whole time. But she was on the ladder. And that the game. I'll I news from because I fought her Instagram on the who weekly account so we were like following her. So she appear and I notice Oshii stating that this rapper who had also heard of nipsy hustle. But like did it no really anything else about that? So it's just like really sad his clothing line. It's called marathon. That's where he was murdered at his store, which sucks, and so it was kind of this like street wear brand. He said I was reading some interviews with him yesterday. And he was like he had very high hopes for the street wear brand, which is pretty successful. And he was like I want it to be like urban San Rio, which is a really interesting comparison. Like, that's a cool thing to do. Just like excessive will stylish sort of stuff like the price points were very easily accessible for just normal. People may think he's just one of those people that like you didn't realize what such a big thing and a lot. And when he died, so many notable people famous. People pseudo famous Bulwer like devastated. It was just like, oh, this was a person that I really looked up to and really had fond feelings for and who just one of those things where it sucks when you don't realize like you've never heard of someone until they die. You're like. Oh, jeez. Like, you know, I I feel bad about this. There was also a very I feel like when people especially like in the age of the internet would people die when famous people died those this. Desire by a lot of people to like be like, well, you have to you have to mention their problematic step as well. Like, how do you balance bringing up like things that they did wrong, which just like the fact that we have to be respectful over this person who died so I've been seeing a lot of that with him in particular like talking about like his past like, homophobic statements, and like sort of like people are trying to deal with that in a way that I think is a little more thoughtful than usual here like sixty from being like. To like being like, well, like is there a way that we can like figure out how a person's life can be split up until like different segments in which they like giant learn things or like change or anything like this would have happened with anyone like it would have happened with any celebrity, but the way that it's happening now, I think is represented like continued evolution of the way that we cover famous people who have died, and I don't know you can see like people trying to grapple with like, how do I report this? And it's kind of everywhere like when you Google when you his death. It's like nipsy hills, murder, homophobia, and the toxic black masculinity fuels it. But then it's like equal weight with like nipsy hills philanthropy to become part of congressional record. Like if people are trying to contend with all the stuff, something we're going to see different things to different people, and we are in an era where like people's public lives are long. You know, if you are public well-documented time your like your mistakes are implied. And we need to decide whether we're going to like hold things against people. Even if they like make it conscious effort to grow and change. And learn I don't know it depends on how you feel about the severity of the statement slash each situation. Like, some things are truly unforgivable in some things. Maybe aren't you know, God, let's move on. Over you guys talked about the fact who. Blossoming actress. But so who the head of this fire for a sex adultery handle? Can you just talk about this for a little bit? Good for those on this is like a month ago. I would say because we've been like sort of like waffling over whether or not we should even cover it and Lindsey vary. Rightly was like, we should wait until like more stuff happens because all these things sort of unfurl at a pace, we've grown to recognize unlike like anticipate, and this one sort of began with the story about you know, powerful Hollywood man his name is Kevin Suda HARA. And he's this guy who worked at what what company Warner Warner. And so he there was this young actress Inc deal deal. There was this young actress named Charlotte. Kirk basically, the low the short version of this is that Charlotte and Kevin or in the sexual relationship and Kevin was promised at Dame met via via breath. Who Charlotte is like, my friend, my friend, who cares James Packer. He's just my friend. Like fuck you guys that we're just rent. Oh. The funny thing about this is that it's like I'd never heard of Kevin even though he's a little CEO border brothers. But for everyone else on this drapes. Kevin hacker, Mike carries ex billionaire husband Juliane say and fucking Brett Ratner who's always involved when something is weird and honking Brett Ratner and flicking James pecker, so Charlotte Kirk and Kevin like have a sexual relationship and apparently while they're engage in the sexual relationship. He's like oh. By the way, I'm going to set up some meetings with like my pals and Hollywood and try to get some roles so the sexual relationship we'll to give him credit, which we should give him any credit. But who cares? But she saying, hey, are you gonna hook me up with some auditions, hey, are you gonna get me some roles like she is she's kind of implying slash directly asking because we have all these messages. Hey, like, you know, you said you would get me a role you said you would get me on dish in and he's kind of like, Cher sh. But think about how far the CEO is from actual lasting. You know? That's like that's actually one of those things where if you fuck the president you can't necessarily get a job because the president sometimes isn't even involved with the data the awkward phone calls. This guy has to make our awkward emails. I know she gets a couple roles. She gets the horrible decoder Johnson rebels movie. How to be single she gets a role in oceans eight which like don't forget oceans eight was like five years ago. You know, like oceans eight was foam so long before it came out. So she gets a role in all these things but not much else and she's pretty disappointed by it. So what happened people have known about this for some time or suspected that sutra HARA was like involved in this relationship with this woman, and sort of like, maybe gauging like a quid pro quo sort of stuff. And so according to this Hollywood reporter story, it says the issue arose again in September twenty eight an anonymous letter to someone at Warner media raised a series of explosive questions about whether a top one of others executive had promised speaking roles to an actress, I. Defied only a CK in exchange for her silence. So then they retained a law firm to investigate it. They found no evidence of misconduct. But then these people got the texts so the tech sort of proved that the relationship did exist. Ultimately, what's funny is that these techs are texts that are on her phone, but their photos of Tex not screen shots of tax. So there's a lot go. That's why I'm saying like who is the text leaker. You know since then Kevin has been forced to resign fired. He's no longer there and the time he resented timing of all of this was before he was about to get this like huge promotion and have even more power. So all of this has very like someone who knew what was going on leap this at the right moment. Like the right moment to sort of torpedo his career. So after this Charlotte Kirk has been interviewed by all these people are like what happened like like? Are you a victim here? Like was this nonconsensual, and she's like, no, absolutely not. And she's like don't your James Packer and Brett Ratner to this. They weren't involved. They're just my friends. Yes. Brett Ratner gave me some some additions. But like who cares? He's my friend, James Packer, just my friend. Kevin. He was just my friend. I'm not a victim of law. So she says in this story on deadline, despite the tabloid Tida, Kevin Sahara, actress Charlotte, Kurt wants a chance to be judged by her onscreen work. And so she's doing a full on press tour right now being like, I'm me. I'm talented actress like do not connect me with these terrible men like I'm my own person, which is sort of like good for her for taking control this narrative. But it is it's a different version of the story that we're very used to this point. And that's why it's sort of interesting. But it's also like we have her text messages, and we can see the other side of the story not to beat not to give her her narrative, obviously, she can do whatever she wants. But it is funny. Read these tax and be like, okay. Well, you also were literally like kind of being like where am I rolls? It's like, you know, we're being. Told by a powerful man that you could maybe get some career boosts. If you continue this relationship sword, you were asking directly for such I wouldn't even being implying that, but I literally am reading these tax being like, okay. Well, like, she is asking also was really funny as this long Hollywood reporter statement, which is very good ends with this can I just really end so far Kirk has not appeared in a millennium film. She has however start as Nicole Brown Simpson. In an as yet released film called Nicole and OJ which shot in so feeble, Gary were learner the studio with many crew members who are regulars on the money and movies. But as but a company spokesperson says Nicola, no Jay is non of Lenny and project. It is not clear who provided the financing one press reports that the film's budget was sick. Nor is it known what movie has distributor to take it to marketplace. The film was directed by Joshua Newton who is said to have a personal relationship with Kirk and as listed a few previous credits. It's kirks biggest role to date and Newton responding to queries from the Hollywood reporter several months ago postulates that the football star played by Boris Kodjo was framed in the infamous double murder Newton promise movie would be a revelation Kirk is quote, a dedicated actress who takes her craft really seriously, he said, adding that when his films released she will be one of the most sought after actresses on the puck start in a movie about how Jay was I I'm telling you, which nobody can figure out its finance which is sauce, and then nobody knows who's shooting it equal. They spent sixty five million dollars making this movie. I'm gonna read a line from her statement to deadline that came out just a few days ago or a couple of weeks ago. And it says these articles referred to events from six years ago back in twenty thirteen I was differ. Person. Then I was nineteen years old newly arrived in LA, possibly larrikin and definitely very naive. I have made some poor choices. I'm sorry for that. But I've learned from my mistakes since then and have grown a lot as a person woman, and as a professional actor, and then I then way shoot it's great as these latest. Rumors running the hell boy movie there nonsensical Neil saw. My addition and believed I was the best actor for the role. Simple. As that the character of Alice was written as a twenty six year old eastern girl was strawberry, blonde hair. Netted that's me in a nutshell. I love it. I've grown in change. And then goes on to say like, exactly. I mean, it's it's take on a story that has at this point tales all this time. Right. That's what it's so interesting. It's like how do we in two thousand nineteen even have a story like this? It's like me to meets like old Hollywood casting, couch culture. It's like, how do we even? We're don't even to respond to this. We're like let her say her piece, we respect that. But also these taxes, they're funny. They're hilarious. But also like fire the Batman in this in this particular story. It's like it's not as dark because Charlotte is claiming all this agency that doesn't necessarily exist on the woman side of the story usually in these stories where it's like they're like dumped on so hard and they're taking advantage of. And she's like, I'm not taking advantage of do not say that about me. I'm completely in control of my own life. Will she was completely in control of this whole situation? It just happened to be something that got him to resign because it was not great. For the you know, the company he worked in, but those are two questions here. It's whether he acted inappropriately with his company and his job and with this woman and clearly the job was. Yeah. Let's defend this, dude. These these guys suck all these executive on good Hollywood Charlie park is a Phoenix rising from the good Hollywood executive passed out. That's it. She's the only one who's good. Why are you? What are you doing me? Why are you like Estonia sent from my Sony experience? Like, she's a company woman, of course, using sonar you where are you? It's funny. Imagining myself if I were like if I if I were an actor like very proudly moving to LA and being like, I will only accept meetings with Amy PASCAL because all of the men are terrible. And just being like, they're like, mommy. We can't go meeting with the has gone. It's like, well, I'm giving up on Hollywood. Nope. Not gonna happen. We all saw her taking up that Spiderman universe or whatever. Spiderman Spidey verse or whatever. Oscar everybody was like is that Amy Amy Amy, and it was Amy Amy rose from the ashes know emails can do Amy in. She's good. She's fine, sweetie. She's fine. We know flicking scandal in my fucking career. You kidding me? It looking at my flick and career. You you flickers get out of my flick and career I'm doing just fine. I love the only the worst thing. It'd be Paschal ever did was like yell at someone. It's true. That's so true. It's like Amy did nothing wrong for like good at her job. Got. I wish I were. I wish I were as good at my job as any PASCAL is at her job made the best marvel movie best marvel movie, there's no better marble. There's no she made it all by herself. She played every. Mating on her on her, computer. Like somehow, he's ventured game media. I was like I'm gonna make this book and movie on my ipad pro. Yeah. You wonder why all the enemy styles were different? It's because Amy was growing and changing shoes progressing animation skills to circle this back Charlotte Charlotte, Kirk get a meeting with Amy PASCAL. You'll be fine. It's true. It's two. She'll just yell. You. Worth worse. You get yelled at really hilarious at the moment that Nicole movie comes out her career is over. It's not gonna come out that is not gonna out a terrible story. But you know, what is a good story. Those story of my quip toothbrush that I have sitting in my bathroom right now. 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That's your first refill pack for free G E T Q IP dot com slash who Highland being body medium pry time. I just 'cause I just saw that Rita Wilson got a star on the Hollywood walk of fame. And first of all, I know you might have done this before. But we else thin who were then. And Secondly, just having a star on the holidays, walk of fame automatically make you a them. Okay. Crunch crunch gets one belt on by Rita Wilson. Who were them? I think she's thinks she's who I think in her mind. She's the number one them. I think in Tom Hanks's mine. I think everyone around her really feeds into her delusions her like, wonderful delusions. But I think that read 'em again Rita Wilson is one of my favorite Hollywood stars. I'd like actually adore her and think that she's genuinely an in exuberant positive and well liked person by like everyone seriously. I do I do like her. It does seem like everyone likes her because she's in everything, but she always plays the exact same character, which is completely fine. She knows her niece, and she sticks. She's the French girl. Got there by girl. I'm gonna go pick the kids up from the from the from the playground. I gotta go. But you've got this girl the conic friend since like sleeps in Seattle like literally. And that's she. So she's plays. She's obviously been acting since she was acting before then. But I think like the first role that she had. His it's like a kid. She was in sleepless in Seattle as the friend, Susie. And she was that person. And she has been that person since nineteen Ninety-three up until Gloria bell until worry about when she is that person yet again, she and Tom have play tone, which production company, and they've produced a lot of really successful films and a few of which which Tom describes in his speech at her walk of fame. They produce my big fat Greek wedding, which was enormous gave Neo Dallas a free pass for life. They produce mommy, which is one of the highest grossing movies of all time like the UK, mommy here we go again. And they produced my big fat Greek wedding to which flopped, but like play tone did well and a according play tone did. Well, I love about play towns. Hit play tones hair redesign. These are two things where Rita went to some small show. That's very cheesy in Hawley deep Hollywood as you may know, the theater in Hollywood, not so great, but read a one. To see a one woman show, my big fat Greek wedding and read a went to see mommy of the musical. And she decided that both things would make great movies, and she went home. And she said, Tom these would make great movies because Tom is a good husband and understanding husband. He was like sure Reid, do whatever the fuck you want. And she did. And that's how they were hitting mega hits like huge among this mega. I walked out of mommy of musical like, I hated that freakin musical, and I love those movies. So, you know, apparently, I'm fully off. Grossing all time at the UK box office. It's the best selling DVD of all time in Sweden. It made thirty million dollars on DVD the day it came out, and that's because Reno Wilson has some questionable taste my big Frank wedding us five million dollars to make it made over three hundred sixty eight million dollars. It's like unbelievable. It is among quote quoting with Bedia. It is among the most profitable movies of all time with a sixty one thousand sorry, sixty one hundred percent return on its investment. Like any investment was was mainly Rita being like read a check for Neo our friend Mia, and they did. And you know, what that's Rita? But Rida also read it as sort of like. The the ideal celebrity spouse or slumpy partner in that. Yeah. The spouse the really relieve Amos went on their sort of like second tier in that. She doesn't really aspire to be like Hugh to choose. She hires to be exactly what she is. And so there's like comfort in her level of fame that really is like, very sweet and seems very happy. So like, she's happy being the big character. She doesn't really want to be a lead. But you know, what she does to she wants to produce movies. And you know, what she does she produces movies today, which when she wants to play wants to wants to be a country star. And that's exactly when she was like tire steps at fort, my decision to be a singer, and she and Thomas absolutely hunting. I support your decision to do whatever you want to do. And so she's like, okay. Hey, I'm like us my connections on my friends to like make a few albums will you promote them like come to the shows. And he's like absolutely Honey like KEA singing, do whatever you wanna do. She gets breast cancer. She becomes like a breast cancer warrior like. Survive are like sharing her story. Then you know, she comes back. She makes another album, and then Tom do he promotes his on his socials? Like, it's it's sweet, no. I mean, I honestly think that what's. So there's a thin line. And this is like where a lot of nuance comes in between a famous person, a famous actor who has a music career because of a certain because of wanting more because of feeling like they deserve it because of all these things, and then something that what Reid is doing which is like I just have appeal. I just have a hobby. I have enough money to support said hop and do it to its extent. And that's why it's like to me. It's like light a light hearted happy situation in which I see other celebrities who do this type of thing. And I'm like, oh that's enough like stop. But for Rita feels truly to me offensive like, she's not a great singer. But she's obviously doing something she loves so much, and it's a lot of hard work like she's like opening for the band, SHA. Kaga which is what Tom says in his walk of fame. Like, she's not like, yes, she paid to get the Suta. Yes, she paid for all of this stuff. But like she's out there on the road. Putting in the hours to to play of this is going to come across as drag to read. And I really don't mean it that way. But it like it is the it's the peak version, it's the rich version of what everyone in this country. Does like it's like the peak version of everyone's like just using their free time to like kind of invest in their hobbies. But it's like when Rita at us and her hobbies like things that she's early great at like, she's not a great singer. She's not a great songwriter. But she has the money to do it in a big way. And it's like wouldn't all of us love to really invest in our hobbies to the like I like, that's what this. I always say like if I were super rich and money like a fully didn't matter. I would go to culinary like I would. I would I would literally just learn how to cook. And I wouldn't be great at it. I wouldn't work at a restaurant, but I would just want to go do that. And like, that's what Reid is doing. But with singing, no, you know, what you would do if you were read she would go to culinary school Mun open your own restaurant because you weren't because you had so much money. And you just didn't know what to do. I would open a restaurant. It wouldn't be great. My friends would go. It'd be like girl like congrats on opening your restaurant, and and it will be so bad. But my friends would support me they would talk about it on Instagram, and they'd be like out our boy bobby's like new restaurant like come here for like, whatever we excuse me. Can I just say mimi's is very good? We caught. That's what I'm that. Is not what I'm saying. I love me. Are you kidding my birthday, bobby's mobbing diner? Woody. Mad rash? And I, but I would be rich. And so my friends would be like I would go there. Bobby? I would demand free food. No, you wouldn't. I would give it to you rich like the restaurant would operate in like the extreme red like blood rhino the year read soon, so you could open this. Five years after you graduate on that's a good comparison to read is doing like, it's very pure. It's like it's coming from this really genuine passion of hers. And so to answer your question does having a Hollywood star on the walk of fame means that you're you're them. No. And that's an extension of what we were saying why Hollywood stars are bought day are bought they are really just you are investing in that. As this sort of city landmark what you're paying for. Is you have to get signatures? You have to get approval from the committee shore just look up the stars. That don't have a star on the Hollywood walk of fame. And you will realize that there is it is not about whether famous or not for Rita. I think why she wanted this. And I can guess is that she grew up right near the Hollywood walk of fame. She grew up in that area. She's from Hollywood literally born and raised in Hollywood and to her. This is a really important cultural thing for her. You know, like this is like her hometown. It's like getting a walk of fame on the San Antonio city hall stone, just what you aspire to the river walk that doesn't exist. But sure, but what I'm saying is like when you wanna sort on the walk of fame, you do have to actually be famous. That's true. But you like I couldn't just go in with all the money in the world and say give me a star on the walk of fame because I'm not actually famous, but when you do that what you're really paying for is like you get us on the walk of fame. So that they can maintain the Walker fame as a tourist trap. You know, like you're paying for maintenance you're paying for like the installation and the actual star. But you're also paying to keep everything else. Looking nice like it's sort of an investment in the community and a weird rich person. It's totally it's like adapt. It's like Dopp ding a highway we've done this we've done this. And the walk of fame is almost always tied to a promo. So even Tom Hanks in his speech at the thing, which I'll play here he's like. And also like I love my wife so much like, she's amazing. Like, no one's more I- conic in Hollywood. What if going legend he's like her new album came out today? But then she said she had more music in her heart and in her head. Songs that needed to be written and recorded and perform she made two more records of her original material created with other find songwriters and musicians. And since then Rita Wilson has performed all over the country. She is opened on tour for the band, Chicago. Yes. That chicago. She performed on the stage of the legendary grand ole Opry. Did you know that today Friday, she is releasing dropping her fourth CD, titled halfway to home? Available in record stores Amazon. Well, she is. Lizzy before you want. I wanted to ask you didn't ask you. What would your passion project? Be. If you had all the money in the world like I would open terrible restaurant. What would you do? Oh, my what would it be? I mean, what a angel, but that would actually be well, my friend gab. And I always joke about how we want to open a karaoke yacht like on the Hudson, which is like it's a. Like a character farther audible to get on the vote to care looking. Well, no, I would I would wanna open literally like a coffee shop or like a space. Like, I also feel like it'd be really fun to open to open some sort of like like multi use space that served literally had I always respect the spaces that have no purpose that are just people's obviously they just wanted to space. It's like we do everything we do this. We do open mic. We do karaoke. Like wanna you know? That's what I would want. Go not a restaurant. You wouldn't record a record an album or anything. Oh, no. I'm not. I know I'm not I know good covers album. No, I would not want record a covers. Well, if I was rich though, I would have a different vibe like maybe I would feel like that. I. And it's just like your carry go. I don't know. Maybe I would like maybe go to like stand up school. Learn how to do stand up. I'm always wanted to like finish learning. Sign language that I started like, maybe I would go like do that. I don't know. There's so many dumb things that you would want to do if you could definitely I would definitely try to learn a language and like learn piano, piano. Yeah. Relearn? For a long time. And then I was like I don't wanna do this anymore. Metoo seven years, and I took French for that long to and look what happened nothing the thing about readable. So that I love the most is that just looking at her like gives me very chill like she makes me very calm. Yeah. She's your personal call map. Wow. Are we segue into an ad right now? I think this sounds like an app for the coma where if you don't have access to read a Wilson, then maybe you have access to the com app because stress is a worldwide epidemic everyone's working longer hours. No one has time to watch all the Rita Wilson movies. I understand that fully because she's only in some of she's in some of a lot of movies. You gotta find her skim to her figure that out watch her part find the next part, it's difficult, and you how your biz and that's why we're partnering with calm, which was the number one apt help reduce rings, -iety and stress and help you sleep better more than forty million people around the world have downloaded it. So if you had to call them dot com slash who get twenty five percent off. Tom premium subscription, which includes guided meditations on issues, like anxiety stress and focus including a brand new meditation each day. They're also sleep stories which are bedtime stories for doors which are bedtime stories for adult. I love those designed to be relax head to the magic lavender fields of southern France. With Stephen Fry that sounds fun. It does that sound fun to you. It sounds fun or explore the moonlit jungles of Africa would Leona Lewis. That sounds fun. I wanna I wanna. I want to jump of Africa. Jungles? Is that the Justin mckearney right that too? Okay. They even have sued pan war and right now who weekly listeners get twenty five percent off a calm premium subscription at calm dot com slash who that AL dot com slash who you can get unlimited access to all of coms content today at com dot com slash high cly first time medium time. I have a political who question about p. Jj bootees. Don't know how you say. It think he is a mayor of south bend, Indiana Twitter. Love him. He's like speaks Arabic. And as a Afghani veteran and has a husband tasing, I would love to. Thanks, get one Bill. As I said before there's only one white guy here, there's not three this is not America. But this is not. But when we see a very who we person enter the politics ring, we sometimes just get involved. We have to get go. We got we gotta talk about him. Here's why here's gay number one number two names. Insane. Name is crazy number three went to Harvard. But once when he was there wrote an essay about loving, Dave mailings guy. This guy is participating in extreme of the work up. He is everything. Are we adore him? How anyone honestly never. I'm not endorsing him. I don't know his politics. I haven't gone that far. But when I'm telling you is that he went to Harvard. He's a Rhode scholar. He went to the war in Afghanistan. He is gay. Don't know he likes the album JoAnne by lady Gaga. But you know, what? From all this information. I would say he probably does not have enough time to I I I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he has not listened to JoAnne by lady Gaga. He speaks. Norwegian Spanish Italian moan. Language. I never even heard of Arabic is reading the Wikipedia. He and Flynn the mayor of south bend, Indiana. Whereas that no idea because I'm not going to geography he was born in nineteen eighty-two which makes him fairly young for presidential candidate. His name is only labels. Labels, be UT. I I e g no how do you say that? How do you say? But gig, judge Buddhist. Some people say I think he and his husband who have like a really sort of irritating stupid Twitter relationship into like me me me me me and my husband. They both have pronunciation rules on their Twitter. Byles one of them says, of course to judge the other one says boot edge edge Buddha, judge Buddha judge. So which one is it just like say one of them like sort of like booting is funny because it makes me of Chris L where it's like, well, we we named our our last name because we met a boot we love Buddha, and we judge or Buddha, and we are friends with this judge. We're going to call him. Never forget shell is Justin Hartley wife who's also on that show net. Flicks is selling sunset, and she who's named after a gas station attendant Antica station. Her name is Sherry don't forget. How could you ever get that? But like he's so Buddha. Judge do we even know any of his political views? Are we going to get there? Let's just say that that's your job to look. Not. That was the most earnest I've ever muttered. Well, earlier we were talking about Pete, Peter Peter Paul Buddha. Judge we were just like should we talk about him? Like, I literally no nothing about him. All I know is that he's gay because that was like what the media was talked like all I know we're like headlines that I saw, you know, because slate wrote that like really truly piece it was kind of like does gay count as diverse or something. Right. And I was like what he wrote a book called shortest way home. I'm sorry me trying to figure out how to spell. Your name is like the longest way home. I this is such a nightmare judge. If you want to be on our podcast, just come on the puck has asked people to us as we gonna talk about JoAnne. Oh my God. If he came on the podcast, we'd be like your last name, man, you should change it. He's like, you know, what you're right. I will. Let's see let's see some of his stances. Let's he seems like a very he seems like a Leslie. Nope. Type figure to me knowing nothing about him. I'm like, well, like the mayor of like a random town who's like very accomplished and seems like very type aid. Oh, one of his young age. He has a one I dog this guy. So basically his stance would have to kill all Jews for me not to like him. As what I'm saying? So vote. He backs the green new deal tight. He. Okay tight. He proposed a gradual shift to a single payer healthcare system. Hell love ya. Love it. Love it love Medicare for a while. Okay. Support that young dodged questions on abortions. Red blood red blood, right? Thank you take off to change. He blocked a change in his own law. That would have allowed a crisis pregnancy center sakes. Oh, people seem to like him, whatever. Like, this is us talking about politics. I dare why you don't want this. This is why you listen to three white men talk about politics as opposed to us talking about not that we give you the option to listen to us talking about politics because when we do it comes out like this. Anyway, he loves St. Matthews band. And let's move onto the next goal. Allen coming of who or conform Bella Thorne who were them one two three. Then Allen cupping I think so big fan. But also, I think so in general have you been to clip coming? I have not I haven't I would like to go. I don't really care. Club. Coming seems fun. Okay. Fine. I get it. Can I tell the story about Al coming really quickly friend of mine? Was his personal assistant very very very, very briefly. What's so funny about which is funny, and she got fired because she crashed his car, she grabbed his car the first weekend. She says person. The car in the first month, and then like they really didn't get along. But the my favorite thing about the way. The my favorite thing about the way that the relationship ended was. He she didn't like put out his trash one day or something and he called her and was like, yeah. Like, the trash is not on the stoop like you need to do that. So she goes back as apartment, and like gets all the recycling me was recycling, but she goes outside, and she's holding all these bags and she's walking down the stoop holding his trash bags. He approaches and he gets home to and he goes, you know, what? I don't think this is working out. And she the rue the bags down. It goes. I don't either that's out the job and her friend is a legend. She's a legend. She's a true legend Harvey agree longtime, I friend. I'm lacking the good fight, and is Michael sheen who or them like quite Demi, the prestige who I don't know let me know from those are two three them. You just called him. Michael. Maybe he is a who has name is confusing. I think we've done it before and I called him them. But now, I'm like, I don't know. Michael's love him. His his name's confusing. Charlie Sheen is more famous and he's not related to Charlie. She's not even that sheen. Also that sheen that she has like fake. He's an he's in steps over yet. No, the whole thing is step is. Yeah. Martin sheen is not Mark smartness devas. Let's just let's just call him a who highlands involved. He is nougat a who. Or is that? One one two three toed. What total hill. What new get is the cheap filling when there's nothing else to fill. What is name candy bar, which nougat is the star. And don't they knickers could is not starve three musketeers. And no one likes those. It's nice star three months. No, you're wrong. New. It's literally the star alternate skipped. Here's is chocolate and new that's not a good one. It's a good one. That's good ones. You told me to name a candy that has again. Nougat just bills the gaps that are left by more expensive ingredients like caramel and peanuts and chocolate nougat is like the filler. No, it's not new starting. What is what is your who of candy filling? I mean, I think nougat is. Nougat in so many candy bars knew that still a who in those candy bars. It's the guest star. It's the reader or you call the candy. Are you calling three Muskateers who candy bar? I mean. Yeah, for sure it's them Katie want. It's one of the main ones just because we always thought about it. They're not value judgment. Just because you do not like them. I'll eat I'll eat three months. You see when I ate more candy. Do you know how easy musketeers? This is disgusting. I would bite all of the chocolate off the outside and leave my little nougat thing that just the new get on its own. It's good that you don't eat candy anymore. Rose truly is I let eating like the peels like the outer layer. And then eating the side. I still eat candy, and I never eat three musketeers so good. No. No. Day nigga who knew we're going to have to agree to disagree here. This is the rare fight looking them hash hash like new get them. If you knew Goodhue in fills, the foles don't add that won't help our gods. I think I know the answer to this question, but I wanted to control professionals. I was wondering is Garber who or as thank you so much good form. Three. Who do I get a I guess who he's easing? You'll always. Director. Yeah. Cared. Every time. You see him? You'll say oh that guy. Oh, Mr Andrews. Oh, Elliot's like he's in a million things. Titanic exactly around Reuss. She's going to she's going to sink. What did he say? When she say when he when she encounters him in that sideways sitting room and he's on at the clock. It's kinda like it's kinda like off. It's like everyone's like picnic. Coffees kind. His clog is looking at the clock at his clock. He's looking up and down. And he's like rose. I can't do the accent rose ship. Think can you put the clip here for sure? Think. In an hour or so. All this will be the buffet. What? Totally who you must. I don't want to be responsible for panic and get to a vote quickly. Don't wait. It really is like a it's the best movie ever made. M I wrong. It's the best movie of may stop just with. We went to the next. One lindsay. Is it the best movie made no one now, I'm not? But it's not that. Pretty fucking can't really you can't there is a doesn't exist. A better movie doesn't not the best movie ever made Titanic is on the were next next. Call Herman Electra who are them. Good form. Thorne who were them one two three. Then. What name is name recognition. Like a me of the nineties Cleveland, ask a teen. Okay. That's fair. I'm like she's kind of a mean, though, if this were thousand ninety nine should be a who. CBS asked on. She's a who. You're right. You're right. You're got high longtime listener full schools are not eighteen right, but Gina shot as she a who are that one two three hill. Yeah. For sure. But like cooking who on the rise salt fat acid who I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Love you love your love your book. Love your show. Like, no one's more charming than you your body. I bought it. How you weekly rainn Wilson who were them one two three who? But once was of them was of that office was of them. They try to make him like his tried to they tried to make them, you know, exist post office, and it didn't take din take didn't take high degree. I just wanted to let you know that in the latest carpool karaoke P series, then flat and server are together. And I just like to know spend flat is a. Cool or is them. I know he's a brother to buy them. Regular for some. Possibly not sure. One two three who who come on. But them theater them, though, spirit theater them real world who real. Real. Like actual theater to them. He's he's no Lin Manuel Miranda. He's he's Evan Hansen. Right. Just listeners he's waving through a window. Can I play the Katie braver? That's the only reason I know that. I know that song is because of commercials for that musical and Katy Perry's cover, which I honestly love that's in Barrasso. That's almost as embarrassing as your. I the way I eat three musketeers. Always. Bobby? Long time, I shower and I had run out. She act you are Chris Tucker at Decky Chan where dollars. One two three who I kind of feel like Chris Tucker still has like very them e like too long, but I would love to them. Yeah. I think I think we've actually talked about this not in the game. But like Chris Tucker, I feel like as could easily come back and get into them stat easily. I agree. So do you think rush hour the next rush hour that they're doing will help they really making another one? I thought they were. That's why this person called. No, no. This person was like, I'm watching rush hour rush hour Jackie Chan one-two-three them them entrepreneurs. One hundred percent. No, no. Bruce, tucker. It's been too long. Chris Tucker had a moment for a long time. But he really just kind of disappeared really purposefully purposely disappeared. I think. Good for him. He got what he wanted. And then finally high guy is quick question for you monkey Jesus who are them one two three. Internet them. It's a main. So it's it's a who. But it's an iconic. Definitely it's no Mona Lisa. But it's a who. I mean, it's up there. It's up there. It's. Of looking at it again. Just like incredible. Do we all know, what do we all know the story of? So there was this like fresco in a minimum Spain, and it's like one hundred years old, and this is like Jesus like with crown-of-thorns looking up like mournfully being like, and then, and I guess it was like it needed to be restored. It was a quote good faith attempt to restore the fresco by an untrained elderly amateur name Cecilio human as so she got bless her heart. She did her best. But it looks like a monkey Jesus. And you've seen him. If you go. Jeez. I feel I don't know we called that monkey Jesus. I thought we just called it like fucked up internet Jesus. But I'm fine with that yet. But now now the great thing about it is people come and see it all the time. Now, it's tourist now a tour, of course, of course, it is. Where is it is it somewhere? Spain what part of Spain. I gotta go to Spain. Northern spain. Oh, great. Okay. Finally, go. I'll be there. See Jesus, I've I've gone further for less. Fair. That's good. Thank you listening. Call us at six nine who them if you have any questions comments concerns? Supporters patreoNcom Sasha weekly falls on Facebook Instagram Twitter review us on apple podcasts. People love those things. 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Thu. 11/19 - Paleomixology & the Baskin-Robbins Turkey Cake: Tips For Spending the Holidays Alone

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Thu. 11/19 - Paleomixology & the Baskin-Robbins Turkey Cake: Tips For Spending the Holidays Alone

"Welcome to the khadki. Ride home for thursday november nineteenth. Two thousand twenty on jacksonville advice for enjoying the holidays even if you were spending them on this year. Researchers have made a sarcasm detector and a look at the burgeoning field of paleo mixology. Here are some of the cool things from the news today. So yesterday talked about why we should all avoid person holiday gatherings and only be indoors with people in our households and today as promised i want to share some tips on how to actually enjoy the holidays if you will be alone this year especially if it's your first time pulling a lot from a vice article here by jennifer people's vice actually has a whole section on their site right now called happy holidays which is an ongoing collection of articles about quote feeling connected and vaguely festive during the coronavirus pandemic and quotes. Some highlights include how to talk to your family about not going home this year to talk to your partner about where to spend the holidays end what to do. If you're scared you're cousins are going to give your grandma covid so we'll on different insights depending on your particular situation in that collection that i recommend checking out and you know. Maybe you aren't spending the holidays alone because you live with family or a partner. Maybe you don't totally consider it alone because you've got lots of video calls with your family planned but a lot more people than usual are spending the holidays alone many for the first time so i wanted to address it and share some tips. And if it's not for you this year maybe book market for the future or with someone for whom it is so without further ado vice starts with a very good tip let go of should holiday celebrations never looked like the picture. Perfect seen that is advertised. A to us in commercials and more than any other year. There is no reason to get hung up on trying to make them yes. You are probably spending the holidays alone. So as not to spread possible disease to your loved ones or their community. But do yourself a solid and release yourself from the pressure of having to have any particular sort of holiday celebration. The article also brings up another excellent point. When you tell people that you're spending a holiday alone they get really weird about it case in point a lot of you reached out with really lovely messages after yesterday's show when i mentioned that i've spent the last several christmases alone and i appreciate your concern but trust me. I'm fine. i choose to spend them alone. My family is spread out all over the country so traveling to see any of them is expensive especially during the blackout dates of christmas and thanksgiving. Plus i don't usually have a chance to speak too much time off. In some point. I realized using all my days off to just chill out on my own is significantly more relaxing and kind of even more fun than spending those days on delayed flights and having strained conversations with relatives. It doesn't mean that. I love them less or they love me less. Visit them some other time of the year or at least a did in pre pandemic days. But sometimes it's just nice to do my own thing but this is tough for some people to understand so get ready for people to be weird about it and invite you to join their celebrations. Prepare yourself for the awkwardness of those conversations. Like the writer in vice. I to have made up plans. I didn't actually have just to mollify people who were super freak down or concerned about me being alone so decent strategy if you can get away with it and why not just say. Yes to those invitations. Well everyone's situation is different. But for me and the vice writer if i was already making the sacrifice of not seeing my family so i could get a little so are in our. Why would i then give up that time to spend with people. I'm less close to that was in previous years this year. The real answer is none of us should be having in person celebrations so not only. Do i decline your invitation. But i would also like to point you towards several resources about why you should not be inviting non household members to your celebration or as pizzas. Put it in vice if twenty twenty has given us one thing it's an ironclad excuse to just not in a year when senior loved ones carries tremendous risk. No you're not going to your neighbors brothers friend's house to dhec poorly ventilated halls and sing carols directly into each other's naked face holes if he wants to spend your holiday zoom toasting with co workers. Go ahead but as you design your own celebrations. Don't agree to do things you don't actually want to do to appease other people's guilt about the possibility of you being alone for one day and quotes and now that the holiday is totally yours to spend as you please people's recommends the following rubric for deciding what to do quotes can be done safely without exposing you. Your family your mates and the workers of the world to unnecessary covid nineteen risks. It is personally meaningful pleasurable and affordable or achievable for you and you actually want to do whatever. It is and quotes. You may be surprised. How many things from growing up past celebrations. You actually want to do now. That they're removed from fights and stress. You may also find a new appreciation for the work that others in your family put into those traditions to make them happen. And you get a make your own new ones. You know personally still watch. Tim allen's the santa claus every christmas eve like we did growing up. But i also have my own traditions now like listening to super obscure christmas music that my family complains is not real christmas music and eating nothing but cinnamon rolls for breakfast. And if you're looking for things that can be your new traditions. Another vice article by amy rose. Spiegel has a list of suggestions specifically for thanksgiving. But they're off the wall enough to work for most holidays. They range from the legit like donating to various places and learning how to be a better ally to indigenous people to the straight up. Weird lake playing baseball with decorative gourds and ordering a turkey shaped ice cream cake from baskin robbins. And when i say shaped that's in understatement you've got to click the link in the show notes to see this beauty but no matter. How many fun things you do find to do on your own. It's inevitable you will tough emotions at some point especially this year like emotions run so high around the holidays and even the spontaneous outpourings of generosity from strangers can make you feel paradoxically sad. If you start enjoying yourself. You might feel guilty for doing so without your family. Although if you think about it haven't you also felt guilty for not enjoying time spent with your loved ones in the past if anything this year should be a chance to try to relieve ourselves of that guilt and of any pressure to do or feel any particular way this holiday season. And here's the thing. I love my family. I love a lot of other people in my life. I could be spending the holidays with in non pandemic times but getting to do whatever i freak in want for. Christmas is probably why over the past decade. I went from a total scrooge to will scrooge at the end of the story quoting once more being alone or simply away from your family of origin is also a great opportunity to redefine the tone of the holiday. My first solo. Christmas was the first time that i ever experienced a major holiday where nobody argued with me or yelled at anybody else for once. Nobody commented rudely on the food on my plate the direction in my career the state of my love life or did a coded racism about the scary city. I lived in with once ever asking me a question about those things. If your holiday visits usually require you to do a lot of actually my pronouns are blank or involve making a bingo card predict which relatives hate science. The most this is your year to be free and quotes his listen. There are a lot of reasons. Why being alone for the holidays. This year is scary and overwhelming and sad. And it's okay to lean into those feelings. 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Either simply concatenation the features from multi modalities or fuse the multi information in a designed manner however they ignore the incongruity character in sarcastic utterance which is often manifested between modalities or within modalities inspired by this. We propose a burt architecture. Based model which concentrates on both intra and inter modality incongruity for multimodal sarcasm detection and quotes and indeed using a data set from twitter. This model achieved eighty six percent accuracy. Which is an improvement of around three percent over model by different team last year and notably more accurate than my own sense of sarcasm detection. If you've got time. I recommend scrolling through the paper because it's just absolutely wild to see how many graphs and formulas are involved in teaching a machine to detect sarcasm. 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How difficult it is to teach machines how to do something that comes very naturally to most humans kind of gives me hope that they won't take us over any time too soon if you're looking for some new cocktails to mix up this winter instead of the usual slew of spice rum's nog 's can i tempt you with some paleo mixology that's the dino inspired slew of cocktail recipes created by paleontologist and epidemiologist ryan karni the paleontological side of kearney's work revolves primarily around using three d software to get a better understanding of what dinosaurs and other jurassic and cretaceous era creatures actually looked like and how they moved after publishing a paper earlier this year about a feather that indicates the archaeopteryx a bird like dinosaur first discovered in eighteen. Sixty one may have been matt. Black kearney also in amateur mixologist was inspired to craft cocktail in the archaeopteryx is honor quoting atlas obscure to honor archaeopteryx is probable jet black hugh. He carefully combined melanin. Rich squid ink with barry soda. Yeager meister a nod to the fossil feathers. German origins lime juice in stone fruit syrup a tongue in cheek reference to the limestone block in which the much researched fossil was found and quotes from their. Carney went on to create more paleo themed cocktails and it may be useful to know that this has all happened. Since lockdown began so just another cool creation that has come out of this otherwise horrific year. Some highlights quoting again. One of his concoctions is a bright green mimosa. Garnished with a gingko leaf gingko trees off described as living fossils have grown on earth as far back as two hundred and seventy million years ago the leaf flutes in a splendid floral combination with bright green chartreuse liquor whose color comes from the chlorophyll in. It's one hundred and thirty plant based ingredients. There's the hot pink. Martini with dragon fruit and ligi a nod to the dinosaur with bat. Wings that confounds paleontologists with its subpar flight ability kearney also mixed up the amber yellow lucy in the sky with dasilva cam named for lucy three point. Two million year old australopithecus hamad found in ethiopia. It includes the ethiopian and honey wine tej lemon juice flavor tripping miracle berries that makes our tastes sweet and sky vodka end quotes the cocktails while paired with very high quality. Staged photos don't appear to be published anywhere online outside of the article a link in the show notes but carney that he hopes to publish a cookbook. One day a cookbook. That would also teach about the fossils or fields of paleontology represented in each cocktail. So again you can check out the recipes for a few of these in the show notes if you wanna try them yourself. Most can be adapted to zero proof versions with a little creativity. Carney even notes in the recipe for the archaeopteryx. One which. I personally can't wait to try that you can replace the squid ink with activated charcoal for a vegan. Alternative for all you herbivores out there. That's it for today. As always this show was produced by ride home media and key dot org i m jackson bird and i'm gonna go diagram of the jokes that i've seen on twitter today to verify if they're actually funny. I hope you have good rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

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133 Author Isabel Sterling

What Book Hooked You?

23:43 min | 1 year ago

133 Author Isabel Sterling

"This is what book hooked you. I'm Brock Shelley, and thanks for listening, I guess, for this episode is is about sterling who's booking? These witches don't bring is out now from razor bell. I was glad to get the chance to talk to is about to hear what she was into when she was in her why years, how she got into writing and what books have really influenced her right now. So listen. So isabelle. What book hooked you? So the book that hooked me was L enchanted by Gail Carson LeVine. I actually still have my childhood copy that has the instinct get with reading sticker in it. So what time what how old were you, then when you read this book? Oh, jeez. Probably, and he's third or fourth grade. Okay. And why this book, what is about this book? That is the book that really comes to mind when asked this question. Yes, this is the first book that I can remember, you know, picking out the book reading it, and just wanting to live in that world view books that I read over and over and over again, as a child, I'm not much of every reader still to this day. And this is one that I always wanted to go back to, and especially loved, you know, all the different creatures and all the different made up languages. It would just so captivating too. Young me just wanted to disappear into those pages. So tell us then because this was a book that you read kind of in your middle grade years, what we would call now. What type of child when you kind of reflect back with type of child were you that this is a book that kind of really you latched onto? See I was very much a school kid in that. I love school. I loved learning. And I think that's part of what I liked about this book, is that, you know, Ella with a girl who was very smart. He was very funny inches good with languages. And that was that was without her more so than yeah, she wasn't mean she ended up with the prince, but she wasn't to Princess. She was kind of a normal, girl, the wisdom, you know, obviously with some difficulties with her. You know, very Lessing cash Peters, but I think just being a very. Kind of wish kid when it wasn't cool for girls to be at the pub, one of the reasons rather like this bucks. And so over all then beyond just this book, what type of reader were you were you someone that read widely, or was Ellen Shanta kind of that one book that kind of cropped up, but for the most part, maybe you weren't as big a a reader as most. Know I was a huge. I loved reading definitely kind of propelled me into a right a lot fantasy. You know, like most people my age grew up with Harry Potter near those coming out right around the same time that was roughly the same age hairy. So I guess I'm gonna last fantasy and I also read a lot of once I got to lose before it, even we really had why it was like the team fiction section and borders. I lived in action when I was growing up on all the older. So then, as you got older more in that what we call now the why a stage where you a big reader still did books were you, did you still have quiet for books? I'll say or did kind of adolescence in school kind of slow things down down, as far as you're reading life goes in high school. I still is very much a big reader. I do drop off really. When I went to college, but in high school, I read I read all the twilight books, I read almost everything that make cat it put out. I read the entire, I think, Cate Tiernan, the sweet series twenty bucks in that series at all of those, I was just reading, constantly I had grew up with a ton of siblings and reading, kind of like my alone time, just keep from the men, that's at home. And was it around this time that you kind of had the ideal or were making attempts at writing stories of your own? Not really. I really didn't do much writing. When I was younger, I did a lot of times of. I know it I guess it'd be like, sort of internal whole fan fiction, I never wrote it down. But my parents were divorced every other weekend we would drive an hour and a half between the houses. And I would spend the entire ride thinking about stories and they David stories and won't their extra character in this book. You know what would that person do? And now that self insert sort of dance it, but it never actually wrote it down in part. It was Julie to it was so dark out when we're doing the drive. I couldn't read. All right. I just can't imagine stories what point in your life. Did you kind of have that drive or have that wanting desire to start writing? Yeah. So I think they came to it late. I didn't start writing until I was in grad school. And I think part of that was channeled my creativity in a different way through college. I was actually a music composition, major I was writing, you know, string quartets and, you know, choral music, and that kind of stuff. So it's rep a lot of my creative energy for the four years. I was in college. And then when I went to old kind of gotten burned out through like the news thing I realized, I had gone from there is much more. I was like, no really good compared to other people who are trying to do that. And then went to college, and I was like, oh, no, not that good at this, and I never had the I didn't love it enough to fight for the kind of growth needed to make it as a. He's a greater. So when I went to grad school and for completely different thing and went forth. If there's so worked in student housing for a long time, my second year, I would miserable, and I needed an outlet, but I was still had no interest in going back to dick. And that's when I was like, oh, I should write a novel because that seems like something one would just do. So was there a book or maybe a couple of books that were kind of maybe get a little bit of credit for being part of that inspiration to kind of get you started to right? You know, I'm not sure if there is a book that I read and I went, oh I could write this. But I do know a few months before started writing is when I first started rereading me. That rerating but getting back into reading, so the summer before I started my source book, I read the entire hunger games trilogy. I read his in debtor's first books, something change deadly just starting to get back into why. An I think that helps because I was back into sort of a reading group at that point, I don't know if I had read, though, they might not have had the sought to write a book. And so then when you started what were those first attempts would John ra- category, kind of what kind of themes or elements where you can play around with. Yeah. Some very very but then I wrote, which was total garbage. I basically through in everything that I liked it tried to make all work in one book. So I had like every type of fantasy creature you could imagine. I had, you know, some of these like separate magic factions. And, you know the one girl who had, you know the power of both. Oh my goodness. What's going to happen? And so that was a train wreck. But it was it was fun. You know, I think that I did you know, Raimondo in twenty twelve is my first time I wrote something I did it with the whole story in a month is the first time ever trying that gave me a lot of confidence of, like, hey, I can do this thing. So then I had to actually learn how to revise it was hot. And then from there, I wrote the next year, I wrote a high fantasy novel, there's a little bit better. And then I wrote something that was sort of slow historical fiction, kind of witches have like a non linear time for like timely. And then Finally, I ended up writing the first draft Bush's. Don't burn would have been the late winter early full of twenty fifteen sounds. Right. And so as your writing was there a way that, you know, because this isn't necessarily, what you went to school for, what did you do to kind of I'll say hone your craft maybe at writing are, how did you kind of get plugged in to whether you want to see the industry are just getting into maybe best practices when it came to exploring? An expanding your craft. Yeah, that's a good question. The very first thing I did kinda hit went to Google and looking, and they ended up pretty sure it was a paid course totally lie on how to revise her novel, of course. And I was like, this is exactly what I need to do to revise, I, but this is great. So I went through that to all of the. The very detailed process of reading your novel and figuring out what you have and what it is you meant to write. And how do you bridge that gap? And that gave me kind of my first Dacian of, like characterization and the promises you make reader and world building that makes sense. So that was really helpful kind of laying the groundwork. And then I will enter talking to other writers, but I found. Dinnertime mentioned earlier. She has a wonderful amount of resources on her books. I and I was telling her kind of as she was first writing those blog posts. So I kind of used that to help hone in on what religion meant to me. I met some key partners. Some of who I'm I'm still in contact with today. The it though the sharing of our work really helpful in getting teeth back. I'm also joined a local writers grew to share chapters. So to try to find everywhere to get information as I could kind of goes back to being a very focused person, and I didn't have the money or time to go back to learn to do this sort of tried to create my own learning environment as much as possible. And so then after putting all that into it and having these other stabs at books you mentioned it already you have your first book, these, which is don't burn, which is out by razor Bill. So let's start talking about this book and give us the synopsis of what this book's about. Yeah. Chevys which is don't burn is about Hannah while she was out lesbian, but she's closeted as a witch in modern day Salem, and things kinda take a turn for the weird and sukey when blood witch in danger territory and starts going after heaven. And so. What was that? Maybe spark, or what kind of got you that initial idea that got you writing this book. Where I think part of it was having a lifetime of reading and watching stuff about which is so that's always sort of maybe percolating, a conscious, but I would just one day mighty my own business. And all of a sudden I had this character, my head, and she was working on the touristy magic, Sean Bensalem and was just irritated about the whole thing because she was real, which, and that was kinda the seed of who is this person? And what is her story, and it kind of snowballed from there until you're much in that? You always, you know, grownup sort of watching, and, you know, experience different medias. It had to do with witches. So what may have been some of those that may have in direct or indirect way influenced this book? Many. I definitely I think the Tiernan book first week, he reads when I was a kid. I think that just really solidified like the love, which is the magic system. Isn't it all the same? But I think what if I became that in Harry Potter, there was no no going back. I was going to be anywhere. Just forever. I think I would have the Laskar vendor also played a big role really got me into the elemental magic, which pinks makes up part of the book goes, it'd be the main ones. I did. I read this any kind of which book and I read twitches when that was for coming out, and those were scholastic like books are books. I remember getting those out anything 'cause I would read. So you mentioned an if I think I'm counting. This is was is your fourth attempt at at a book to get published, or at least complete. So when you look at this one and you compare it to the other three what kind of stands out that this one is the one that ended up kind of coming together and, and working, we'll say. Listening for book that I had written very and I think the thing that made it different when ended up being the one, I think, with the most heart in the most authenticity. And I think part of that was as I was writing all these books, I kept writing books with more and more, your characters in them, and not really knowing one, I and then Louis book, finally, after I'd written the first draft the light bulb went up, and I was like, oh, I live living. That's why I keep reading these books. And so once I had come out and was experiencing life. And I bet my wife, Michelle mauve and, you know, experience lives, as somebody who is longer street changed a lot about what I knew about these characters. And I think infusing that into the book made it much more like authentic and real and also just every books I tried to level up my skills, as far as characterization. Apply. And I think it was the combination of, you know, kind of like getting getting to that point as a writer, where I was reading and all of us feels I need interests, but also has the heart that needed to go on it, too. And. Taking a step back. Was it always sort of when you initially kind of set off to right? Did you always sort of having in mind that you would be writing within the why a space or did it kind of come that, as you were writing the type of stories that you were ended up kind of gravitating towards on the page would end up in just happened to fit back into why? Or was it purposeful that you were writing why? Yeah. It was it was always intentional that I was writing. Why novels only from the first one those are always the books that I loved the most. And I never really because I stopped reading more or less when I meant to Paula JR. And then when I came back to reading, and it was back to why. And I haven't really got too much into it. Delta. Who's always meant to be right from the beginning. And so what through all this, what is your reading life like now as a writer, is it something where you really try to kind of get immersed in other fantasy type stories and just wanna kinda soak in? Maybe what other people are doing their do you try to maybe avoid that? So as not to get to impressionable and you know, fearful that you might end up borrowing too much from someone. Actively drafting in new project, typically, don't read much during that like six to eight week period. Smokey just don't have time because I tried to write as much as I you know, right in the morning, and I go to work come home owner. And there's what time to read so much, so during them, they usually and more going to be doing like industry type pud tax and stuff. But when I'm actually drafting I try to read, I'm trying to read more broadly, in general, but I try to read as many different genres. You know, to top of the fantasy. So I kinda know what's happening in my sphere. But I also branch out to, you know, contemporary around palm and thrillers and try to get his wine of abreast of different genres, mostly within why that just kinda my happy place, though. I am trying to relive it more adult stuff just to, you know, learn from other authors and see what they're doing, but I don't actively ever like a voice something or. I was trying to read broadly. And they thought you to in terms of the authors that I'm reading trying to make sure I mean here, even different voices that I have heard. And as you've been reading widely I'm wondering is there a book that maybe really surprised you as far as you know, because it's not necessarily, maybe a John RIA, or a topic that you would typically, you know read on your own, but Reno really just kind of grabbed you in surprised you with the story and the writing? Yeah. I think probably your three that immediately come to mind. I, I just read this weekend, I red white and Royal blue, which is an ill. Don't wrong calm. And it was so good. I can't even speak intelligently about it yet because it was so good. We're just a characterization was, so deep and the tone and the voice is just so like snappy, and funny to that one I normally don't go for the you don't stuff. But it was amazing. And then that one, I think Casey, Kristen, I think, is the author of that one. And then actually devoiding from was, like, I don't wanna read that it's not really my thing. I don't wanna read that and the girls from everywhere they hide you highlight. I kept putting on my I don't know if I like time travel, I'm sure him like this and turn tastic in totally on my mind. And I was mad that I should. Sooner 'cause it was so good. And then the other one I just read recently with the called once and future, which is the like gender Benz King Arthur in space, so good. Muslim that really like a stays person typically, but it was based was magic. And you know there's a ton of your character. So I was having to give it a try. And again, it was so good. It was so tightly plotted. So those are ones that I probably wouldn't normally pick up but I just loved. And then when you kind of look over the years that you've been writing, you know, actively in kind of purposefully. What do you think maybe is the biggest kind of lesson? You've learned through the whole process. Good question. I think the biggest thing that I've learned or that I'm trying to learn is your patient, and let him books, take the time they need to take. So with my sequel that's supposed to me now in twenty twenty. Was super disaster to write had to write it from scratch board time. And I think a lot of that was because I kept saying, like, well, I don't really know strike to be that was gonna write it figure it out and pushed through and gotta hit my deadlines when they're just get it done. And I think doing that as taught me, you know, you need to allow yourself time to figure out what the story is you can't just force yourself. Look out the words down, and I'm gonna keep going forward when the word part golden right direction. So I think patience has been the thing that I have learned that him continuing to learn. Right. So let's we're gonna wind down. Now, I'm going to ask you a few questions as we do the first one being what is your favorite movie, that's based on a book? Probably the Harry Potter movie. So they're always feel good like going back to those. Okay. But when everybody answers that I always make them, choose, which one maybe all of them is your favorite. That's really hard. Probably prisoner of asking, and I think that's the one where her mind it gets the punch Malfoy the say, so we'll go with that. And then my second, not Harry Potter, one, I think, by more recent one would be left Simon love that movie an episode. Great. Next question is there a book or a series that you're willing to admit you've either never read or never finished? I not finished the rainbows series that one. I started it. And then I just fell off. Good. And then finally, what is the last great book that you've read? I'm going to stay the red white and Royal blue again, I am obsessed with that book. I read it in twenty four hours a guy stayed up late. Got up early. Read it for like six hours about eating taking a lunch break. It was so good, and like most books that kind of like gets into your soul. Mate sucks. All the right heartstrings, and I mean new very happy. Willows. Well, the book is these, which is don't burn and I wish you and the book all the best. Thank you. And that wraps up this episode and I wanna thank Isabel sterling for joining me, again, her book, these witches don't burn is out now. I hope you enjoy that. Summertime is upon us. So if you're looking for books to devour this season, go through the archives, checkout, some of my other conversations with why writers to give you some of those ideas. I'm Brooke Shelley at until next time keep reading.

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Baby Got Backchannel

Lovett or Leave It

00:00 sec | 3 years ago

Baby Got Backchannel

"I love it we have a fantastic panel for you but I'm not sure if you've checked the news in the last fifteen to twenty seven hey guys with the Russian government classic and then finally Reuters winning the Bombshell Prize reports Tommy thank you for being here I live two blocks secret back channel that jared Kushner tried to create with the Russian government whereby he would go to the Russian facility to communicate hours in order of bomb shelling US I the Washington Post reported that the Senate Intelligence Committee has demanded all the documents from the trump campaign coming on a little strong and also reported that there might have been some kind of financial quid pro quo on the table very interesting Tommy breaking developments so rare we get to do breaking news here at love it or leave it so to to help us break down this story before we start he recently returned from meant that the Russians could monitor the Americans could not no I I can think of a reason to create a back channel any charitable explanation for this anything you can think of any reason you'd ever do this he's like no and it was so crazy that apparently Kislyak was shocked by the ambassador the Russian the same information about this proposed back channel which even stunned the Russians they're like I mean we love this guy he's very helpful to us but this is getting to be a bit much from a diplomatic mission to New Orleans he is a former spokesman for the National Security Council Co host of policy of America Hosa parts of the World Tommy Detour three piece of material used to construct that thing is brought into the United States because we wire each other tight and we know were spying on them they're spying on us like aimlessly Russian facility and use their encrypted communications gear to avoid the CIA or the NSA hearing about it is the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard I e Hey can you think of a reason why an American official soon to work in the White House would want to create a way to talk to the Russian governor two from the Oval Office to to a foreign government it's good to have a direct line of communication you want to establish a rapport obviously they had thanks to wikileaks and everything else applause as long as there's applause he'll poking so a few stories broke just in the past going on but the idea that jared would make an end run around the entire United States government the entire intelligence community to go to a Asian extremely shady is middle so speaking of extremely shady let's read from the Reuters Story F. B. Investigators are examining whether Russian Russian suggest it to Kushner or other trump eight that relaxing economic sanctions would a Russian banks to offer financing to people with uh-huh Texan at seven pm that's what a Co host us all right that's what we do crooked media we support each other I love it or leave it tell they'll slip your mind every time jared Kushner meets with all kinds of people as you know he is a genius a couple of things old former ambassador Mike mcfaul which is what I do on a Friday night because that's who I am Russia Russia Mike we follow like Russia experts like Mike and which is what you want that's what you want second and in more more bomb shelley the Washington Post reported that there was Mr Trump said the current US law enforcement official the head of the Russian state-owned complicated name bank surrogate named Gorkov. Actually it's funny but it's actually important because they don't care that you smoked weed thank God because you'd be looking at too great Israel crime the head of this bank just happens to be a trained intelligence officer whom Putin appointed and met Kushner at trump tower in December the bank is under US sanctions the US right because it gives you a little context when we built our embassy in Moscow. I'm pretty sure we flew in every brick of Russia Tommy I wasn't paying attention to the foreign trip because I was helping to build our conglomerate as you were as well allow me to welcome our panel she's an actress on Fargo and has a new show downward dog on you Tommy Vitor thank you for helping us understand these stories by I'll see you later buddy thank you guys so much for being here thank you for having US grateful to be here lawyers at Davis Polk right now but but the reason they care is that we got this but what what this looks like he didn't want the United States to hear what he had to say which treasonous is the worst and John Hi Bobby grateful to be here I love your energy thank you it's fear I believe I'm not sure when it was but it was during the cold war that they discover that in the mortar and bricks of the US embassy in Moscow were microphones did trump managed to criticize Russia on this trip. I don't believe you did and more more disconcerting for anyone who's on the border of Russia so what are we that's what a week bell trump is I choose in molding on walls and everything you can think of and like if jared one to talk to some Russian be like your buddy download signal like what's what's text it out the Obama said and something that Donald Trump said when they visited the Holocaust memorial in Israel I don't know if you saw this so I am going to read with an FBI agent and they paint secondly walk you through we've done this and and they tell you it's okay to say that you smoked weed but it's not okay to lie about it and that's implicated in a two thousand fifteen espionage case in which one of its New York executives pleaded guilty to spying and was jailed you know it's one of the meeting is on the calendar you'd easily forget it when you're filling out your sf eighty-six the form that determines whether or not you get security clearance you'd forget that you forget phone calls you forget about the Secret Kislyak meetings at the mayflower ABC Allison tolman he's an entertainment writer for the daily beast and a columnist for G. 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Ira Madison the third it it is a great honor to be here with all of my friends so amazing and we will never forget so that's very cool summer collected defense called Article Five it's the single most important part of the treaty it's essentially the reason for its existence and he wouldn't say he wouldn't repeat it it's like his staff would dance while criticizing Germany I will say that one of one eight did say on background we're sorry he's an idiot true thank you of eighty six this is the background check for them that you have to fill out that's like all your all the money you have all your investments all your contacts with foreign governments how many times you've smoked weed like then you sit down currently finishing up his semester abroad trump's been on his tour he gave his speech about Islam in Riyadh he did places sudden law were under scrutiny and I wanted to demonstrate to the world that I was not under the thumb of the Russians when I went to a fucking conference in Europe I might say something critical they don't want you to lie about it they need to know that you can't be fucking black males and I don't know about you but if I were the president and a great have a great summer I know we'll stay friends that is a stand up for the alliance despite the assurances of his team on backgrounds I think what certainly captures the vibe of the trip is a distinction between something hands upon a glowing ORB amongst the Saudis with Tommy we just went over his speech about NATO and his failure to anyone in Europe all of our allies is he refused to reaffirm the part of the NATO treaty that says if someone in NATO is attacked by an adversary that will come to seriously this like nineteen eighties pop psychology book about masculinity that someone told him about these countries okay I mean I think we get like I I know even I get like soundbite fatigue or I'm like yeah yes ACA it was interesting the way did you see the new French president greeted trump I love this first of all Donald Trump has last to have such a powerful reminder of man's potential for great evil but also our capacity to rise up from tragedy and we make our world this is trump's note at Yad Vashem at least small gaps that have to do with his ridiculous personality and then big giant terrible things like his failure uphold NATO first of all do people I think that this foreign trip he was just kind of gave us a win is a is an example of what we've seen over and over again which is we have these deeply strange but ultimate- up this pack of nuclear weapon wielding adults I guess the question about that is and you see him on Net flicks his love and he's going to be appearing on splitting up together on ABC bobbly data we are that's the that's the darkest mind here on the stage it love it or leave it so obviously that's very depressing that this is our president uh-huh definitely didn't read the read about how to be a mad and use your shoulders but he's he's internalized it like this is how he learned how to sell cars it just turns right goes to Merckel gives merckel the first greeting then shakes everybody's hand and then shakes trump's hand and what trump does which is so amazing it yeah yeah yeah yeah that happened but like how did he ruin things today I don't know right I mean I found myself watching actually do make a difference I think they do make a difference I think he's doing it wrong I mean I don't know like we like people who body slam do you think trump's wrong about the role that these visuals play like trump wrong to think that he needs to stand in the ready to me is like a man who doesn't have any charisma and is trying to like manufacturer it and be like people who have charisma reduce the kind of ethos of Jack Donna Gi from thirty rock world stage so so everyone knows that trump takes these handshake things he's going to be president somehow somehow he will be president I thought that the and trump abroad and it hitting me in a new way that this is the we knew that he had won the election but this is the first time we've really seen him representing a man orders so why shouldn't we like someone who shoves someone from NATO out of the way so they photo I think his whole personality front and needs to push a g seven leader behind him to get to the front like do these things work I mean isn't the whole theory about why trump is president that these lizard brain things on backgrounds or brief that yeah he's so cool with it but he wouldn't go there which is the number one thing Putin wants because then he can storm into the Ukraine and take it all so refusing to back the hear about these kinds of trips do people talk about it does it actually reach like the people in our daily lives that that trump had a gaffe prone ridiculous foreign excursion Ira what do you think the never heard all right that's what I want to see a rockstar and somebody that has a good heart but then you see this fucking Jackass denial about it and I'm upset about it meanwhile in America just before trump departed on his hostile weekend backpack trip through pope did a great job of managing his facial expressions. You know what sucks to Bobby's point you know what sucks it sucks watching the president with foreign leaders and being like it's like if you're dating someone that you don't like it all and you know that like if you weren't dating them you'd be making fun of them reporters twenty eight billion dollar cut to refugee programs eighteen billion dollar cut to the Centers for Disease Control why not let's gamble there search medical care forty five billion dollars to the State Department which has already been decimated by REX Tillerson who you may have heard of but you will not have heard his voice because he does not talk we have a great time but we feel our feelings I'll tell you something yeah I'll tell you something I teared up on the stage I think I cheered up about I don't see enough pandemic disease two billion dollar cut to food safety and inspection so we're all going to lose weight because of the Norovirus gaffe-prone Europe he released a new budget and a CBO score came out on the Republican healthcare. Bill I just want to run through some of the numbers in the he's like he shook my hand he shook my fourth sucks I need to pat him on the shoulder that's how reassert my dominance as the leader chicken wrap near the spirit airlines that's what got me last time just before a cruise go on cruises ajit includes a two trillion dollar accounting mistake they double counted two trillion Lebron on this stage I think I got so mad about Joe Lieberman I briefly almost cried about it you're not a fan of that whole no he's in the past dollars listen that's a huge error what's left Koker Seb Gorkov oopsy been I'm involved in an international I'll just do my business I mean it's really embarrassing remember when Barack Obama spoke in Berlin in Berlin and he drew all those fucking people how many people draw hundreds of thousands of I can't believe I'm with you if I weren't with you I'd be talking about how much I can't stand people like you and then we married him read what Barack Obama said I am grateful to Yod Vashem and all those responsible for this remarkable institution at a time of great peril and promise Warren strife we are so he's trying to take it it's just so fucking depressing it like I watched them on TV. I'm so embarrassed I'm in denial about it like I'll see him on the fucking screen a twenty one percent cut to the children's health insurance program terrific and a two this is the best part the trump budget a six hundred twenty seven billion dollar cut to Medicaid one hundred ninety four billion dollar cut to food stamps eighty seven billion dollar cut to the National Institutes of health which does the discipline of spending our time talking more about health care about the budget how do we walk and Chew Gum at the same time Oh boy what actually affects people's lives are budget cuts or healthcare bills should we be talking about Russia's much as we are should we should we have lost a race in Montana that race closed on an argument about healthcare are we look we are eating these these new Russia stories like candy but meanwhile you remember their handshakes and they're always in the front of the crap but he doesn't so he just has like no one will move aside for him or give him this difference naturally oh no right that's right thank you helpful person in the crowd they did say it wasn't a mistake they said they did it on purpose because they're so so that's a plus I liked that one summer's almost here go get a new bikini body then and the competence begins it's just it's bluewater to blue sky one big expense so I guess the thing that I know Mac Krahn macron macron walks across towards all the g seven leaders and much on Russia which while bucking bonker balls is abstract and if we're focusing on the ways like this is GonNa fuck people over I feel like yes yes I feel like no I'm just being argumentative at this point like is the Russia's stuff matter now he said no he said no to the director thing out smarmy letter won't see the likes of Joe Lieberman around here again characters it's fun Russia they do I mean at this point even a tape there was a tape out there nothing's going to happen if I feel like Boris Tasha could move into the White House and nothing would happen people would be like I loved rocky and Bowling I love those sure they can cut that much twice anyway they're they're P- they're it's just the it's impossible to tell where the malevolence fooled by it so I think if if anything the election showed us that ideology is not really what matters like people want to know how skins turns out it was jared who stole the cookie from the cookie jar I wanted to just run through these late sorry there's something funny I'm saying right now this is really angering me really I want you to know bobby yeah this is a place where we laugh maybe we would be making progress question mark promised to bring jobs don't exist right I mean that's Iras points it doesn't seem like these Russia stories I I was thinking about when I saw this as we have trump has gaffe-prone tour they have this jared Kushner rusher stuff there has been a theme in recent days to the criticism of the Democratic Party. You're like I don't know why the CDC thing CDC the gets so much but it's like I'm looking at this country and it'd be like and he'll win four years from now I didn't fuck and vote for him right so all these things that you're asking like I have no like I'm grabbing the Pussy doesn't do it nothing there's if even if he was peeing on Russian baby like waterboarding in bed with his urine right are going to be affected right like we want jobs we feel like we are being overlooked etcetera etcetera. We don't care that this man is a monster house he can help us so yeah maybe we are focusing uh-huh still with him we love him so brash says what comes through his mind but but at a certain point really gonna I've seen this people it's sort of baked in now right to to trump's price that people who areas yeah he's corrupted by Russia's we against Gianforte the bodies artist Randy Randy Raji and forte. I believe that Obama is from Kenya so they believe that for eight years we allowed a secret African president you've and then of course we all saw the body slam but but the body slam is a red herring because most of the votes had already been cast so this is the number of spending a stretch of the imagination so we can spend all day talking about collusion and Russia when I think we need to have a discipline of Oren Ducas liberal violence what is trump's approval rating right now it is always at thirty eight percents right run our country so now that trump is being accused of colluding with Russia they're like well it's his turn so they don't do it all people very much like we need to figure out how to have a message that resonates with people and that can break through the trump noise in Montana over and over again we've had a few special elections we keep almost winning them we gotta stop almost winning elections at a certain point we moral victories are not going to earlier the ultimate warrior gianforte four hundred thirty eight thousand dollars we've spent against him spent against Quist it was five point one million dollars we obviously everybody started paying first of all in the last two weeks of this election everybody started paying attention but of course by then outside Republican groups had already outspent democratic groups by about ten to one like Lauren Duca tweeted again how can we stop this Lauren Duca Lauren of his group is are going to feel like stay there and so how do we fight against that yeah I think that's that is running its course but what I care about what's going on in people's lives and here's our vision for we're GONNA do for the economy Long after Jared Kushner has pardoned and in Kabo hair they're like the Democrats got away with eight years of lying why don't we yeah I mean it's interesting to that kind of this there is this whole group they allow a certain amount of like lies for president to do or Lee these trump voters like a it's a it's a really tough question I think one of the things that we have been there's been a lot of assumptions and one of them is like trump is so unpopular there's so much energy we're going to be able to take these people down and he didn't deliver on the travel ban all these things right so what makes us think that he's going to whatever he does his fan base or when fan base but his base his fanbase who who are knock against the news you know people notice that tonight on every on MSNBC it's Kushner and Russia on CNN it's Kushner and Raza and on and on Fox News he's so all this liberal energy we're all we're all donating and small dollars but then a bunch of rich creeps are swamping the shit out of us and that is a dynamic that's not exactly because if you think about it from the perspective of a trump Butler which is scary but just lives there but that's how all of us right like what's this approval rating with his people like two hundred percent yeah he's just to beat back you know we we're so proud of ourselves that everybody's giving hundred dollars everybody showing up at a protest swamped by one asshole milionaire with rather Jon Ossoff has had a lot of support and I think that's really important but we've got to figure out a way to compete everywhere if we really believe that there's this incredible amount of energy like I gotta find a way the checkbook I think it's not I mean I think we're just we're actually playing different games it's not like we can get better at our game and be like we did it like we're we're we're just playing different games and if we want to compete we may have to play a different game and like have sexier stories unlike flashier candidates and a bunch of Fuckin- money from someone I mean I have still not picked up our final Taylor getting very close look everybody's suspense now you know like we're not going to give you all the the drama at once you know this is not the going to change to be fair feel like we've all given our 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we love him I just want to keep coming back to that because there's been some stuff like people like Oh we love coming we've loved him the whole fucking time he's on I am loving this woman in the background who is just like the not having she's like why am I here Oh and that is something that is appropriately classified okay stop I like John Brennan here a lot because what he's saying his is is I've missed a galaxy TRAE beauregard gowdy how dare you silly this is ben like a recurring theme in every hearing I also I like that he when he gets mad and then he he used his full name like a like a social studies teacher acting treason face this guy right here from the seventy seventies there hey asshole you wanna put me on the spot and asked me to divulge classified information and open hearing because you're trying to make some sort of point that I don't know what I'm talking about why don't you go is your evidence and he's like are you serious my evidence is the evidence you have seen 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himself their official members of the campaign and then they're folks who represented there is trump there is his his son Don Jr. archangels the Holy Ghost Ivanka Carter Page the twelve monkey because not supposed to Nixon here yeah he literally fell asleep and woke over still doing oh campaign was so poorly run like there was barely payroll department that's like they're getting away with murder for that mistake not going to try to identify couch has seen the evidence is because every person on the intelligence committee in the House and the Senate always walks out of their closed-doors meeting like they witnessed a murder alive or accused of colluding with the Russians and they're like I never acted with the trump campaign in an official capacity only because the with the stars come into dancing with the stars he's six foot eight so it's GonNa be Super Weird but else is being connected with him we all remember from Catholic school the tripartite theory of the trump campaign this is also repeating that a fake thing that people in the trump campaign like to do when they get caught it's classified on TV right and also by the way Trey Goudy is the person so when we first had our hearing with Komi we remember combing it Colmey I testified and Democrats are saying Trey Goudy questions we're all what are you going to do to punish liters what are you going to do to stop the dissemination of classified are you asking me he's embarrassing him I loved it I will refer to you I will refer you to the documents is the like most subtle fuck you I've seen want to hear about Russia again this is a this is a joke that was made during previous okay stop in which we looked at another hearing and it was referred as individuals nor try to Parse it I don't want you to identify the individuals identify the individuals because this is information that again to further provide to you information related to that but my understanding that this committee has access to the documents that we would have provided to the bureau is a quote two of the quotes are true one of the quotes I wrote this afternoon we have now we're going to play a game all too stupid to be true to my panelists I tell you beneath your seats there's a card on that card light sources and intelligence were the official of the campaign I I'm going to her to current agency officials to be able which one is too stupid to be true up first allison has a quote this is on the backlash to trump touching an orb with the Saudis someone is like well what's this information and then like sally hates us to be like it's classified you know classified why do you want me to say the too stupid to be true and we're back a member of our audience who's going to play you have the Mike My name is Amy Rose Amy rose I have well we have three quotes we're going to read for you two of them are real one of them is fake and it's up to you to choose you hear it from them Oh the president touched an orb with the Saudis don't forget America is on that ORB which is a globe it's like I want to start saying that two people someone cuts me off I'll refer you to the documents when we come back tell me the officials and he was like I will again refer you to the P. Paul who you need to talk to like you already know this jets are so unpopular the problem with that the right has with expressing why there is compassion in what they're doing and why it's not about trying clock I don't know that there's a lot of crazy things about the orb that's you're not sure yeah sure yet IRA is up next. This is a quote on why Republican heard if America is a melting pot we can try to control the ingredients that we bring in we bring some tomatoes potatoes there's got I'm I'm sorry there's nothing like old like white men in suits getting huffy with each other it's so like it's so it's like Shakespearean the kill children which is ridiculous because we don't want anyone died in this country for lack of medical care to refute in your soundbite classic politics you don't say you don't say we're not gonNA kill children because it immediately makes you think are they going to kill children the Classic Mistake Classic Mistake Classic so I'm GonNa let you ponder that one bobby is up this is a quote on letting people will start to notice that trump hasn't delivered on the promises he's made that this budget which strips down the safety net does not bring jobs back to the Mid West it certainly isn't populace the I love it so much it's just like they're on TV in the northern TV and they're like well sir it's like a remarkable books to win tough quote tough quote now one thing I would point out true or false as a rule you don't WanNa use the argument that you're trying the globe you could see he was touching the America apart amy rose where's your head on that age and then you see someone coming in knocking on the pot and you're like well listen it doesn't smell right it's from a risky region maybe not a lot of rain means that your full name or at your tax my full name your full name is amy rose that's cry bought your name was amy rose something some people think that have you been following the news closely this week like okay stop that was a really great shady Margaret because he was like the white guy face it is like they can out stuffed-shirt each other something it's amazing anyway on class Jeez and displaced persons into the United States Bobby man stand please Oh dramatic real I'm just GONNA sit there have three quotes all terrific you out to decide which one is too stupid to be true is it America was on the season let's just throw it in the mix and ruin the whole dish so amy rose we have well they're all terrible GONNA I'm GonNa go with the ORB amy rose of how easy it is to pay someone back I have paid Sebastian Gorka hide under the table up under the table the cash APP download right now you can start sending and receiving money very easily links directly to your account it's instant there's no social media bullshit it's great earns he may not last much longer it's Fiat money money do not use any other food delivery up but post mates it is the best I would say this if they were not you've one too stupid to be true thank you so much for playing there is a parachutes gift card with your name on it the problem that the right has is with expressing why there is compassionate what they're doing and why it's not about trying to kill children which is ridiculous because we don't let anyone switched to the cash out also lover Leavitt is brought to you by post mates good guys download post meets use the code crooked if it's your first time downloading post mates why in this country for lack of them if America's a melting pot we can control the ingredients that we bring we bring in some tomatoes and potatoes. This is an amazing moment in my life this is wonderful yeah means a lot to me thank you it's it's been a wonderful experience I think original lollipop with the cash out probably not what they're hoping you pay for things with don't do what I do but use the cash to pay for legal things topics that hand people are already laughing at the topics upon the wheel we have the cush spicer in the pope us some sage and then you see some wine coming in knocking on the door of the pot and you're like well listen doesn't smell writes from risky region maybe not a lot of rain that season you're gonna get fifty dollars fifty dollars fifty dollars here we are trying to give you fifty dollars not us but our friends posted a wonderful and seventeen this God we come back the rat wheel goanywhere love it or leave it and there's more on the way love it or leave it is brought to you by toast and everybody here let's roll the clip I think Mick Mulvaney who we heard at the beginning I am such a huge fan he is so terrific at messaging spin the wheel obviously it is wrong for a member a member of Congress to body slam a reporter for asking slipped party we have you broke my glasses relates to the body slam and then we have mark meadows tears Mark Meadows tears longer which means you won't be able to spend fifty dollars and the whole thing comes crashing down that's not coming back that's true okay well post meets pose mates away to get food until it all comes ed X. Mummy whatever it's called I say okay sure and you know what they get cash out and they're like Oh okay the gash up I hope it lands there Sean Hannity Carson's quote state of mind that was when he said that that that poverty is a state of mind we have audience chooses we have in about the CBO score by the way a question that gene forte never answered because of the body's let me literally fought his way out of that paper bag made of stone I could crush you with my bare hands but I will say that if I were to body slammed I don't know what would come out of my mouth by the way we're I look you guys see me this is not this is not a wrestling physique this is a very soft podcast you can lie I am him down and we're back behind we spin it and then we talk about the has landed on you broke my glasses now I'm gonna say something real controversial here goody here's the thing I'm kind of a yelp followed by some kind of I have lawyers I don't know I body slam I think a body slam you picked him up I don't think I would have done any better than Ben Jacobs who I think handled himself quite well all things considered but the phrase you broke my glasses sponsoring this podcast I use them all and post meets is the best as the whitest fresh trauma reliable Europe shoving members of the G. seven we won't have an economy for that much a single worst sentence you can say after being body slam you broke and I know we're not allowed to say that for instance cash-out liberal Muslim is fourteen o'clock in the morning I have just placed several oxycontin patches on the small of my and let's not throw it in the mix and then ruin the whole gift I love the shitting grinner Jesse watters on his face when he thinks he said something clever his scamming because after he was body slammed he's like tweeting he's like he's like I'm tweeting with one hand I think he just went they went down together I think it was sort of a grab by the by the collar area and it said I hate reporters and then and broke my back where is the whiplash he needs to like show up in controversial too I appreciate that he was body slammed I get it but fort listen I was locked in a blue recycling bin in Miss Mallon's class in eighth grade all right I've seen all sides of this I am no hero and I didn't down to the ground may went and I'm fucking sick of this these questions on my campaign punched him Jesse Ventura's been giving like GOP congressman detected. Just a hint of Sebastian Gorka in there you gotta you gotTa pull extricate Sebastian Gorka link another example Oh and saying is you broke my glasses walked right into that one yeah I want to say Jack and I am ready to take these conservatives down friends use the cash APP is your paper though I paid for my federal patches and my through I don't think people like like unless you really believe in the secret you manifest way uh-huh so he's white he's he's he's I I actually don't know but I think it's like I mean we've never we haven't seen him we've AH blue recycling bin Punching I come out of their swinging I came out of their sad and scared and hoping things would change in high school and they did not doc of it we know how it's done what does he look like they'll the reporter he looks like a journalist he's about journalist height journalist bill it's like that's immediately what I would do to my hand is broken I'm at the hospital this guy is a millionaire I'm looking at dollar signs what he should have done we love cash out we'll have the jokes aside jokes aside listen there are other payment APPs that people are using we know what they're known and when somebody tells me hey can you let's say I'm not going to say I'm not I don't think we should now pull up your pants bullshit like oh you know like poverty is a state of mine and it's like well your presidential bid was a state of mind they don't happen like he used fucking food stamps like his mom had them and now he's turned around and is giving you like this bill cosby Tom I think that it was a I think Bonnie Slam is a very generous term for a push to the ground in which his hands never left the throat uh-huh Orioles it's our intellect bodybuilders wrestlers too but the only point I wanted to make is this I would say the offs maybe comedy sweet I will do some Carson standup honestly I'm going to go to Irish Jacobs Exact specs I I am pretty confident that if he and I were to fight it could go either way I think I think the scale we're dealing with ah a room full of white people knew he he came from poverty the audio but I've seen him on twitter twitter journalist he's just a wrote state of Mind Ben Carson said that poverty is a state of mind don't think that that's yea courtroom with one of those neckbraces with a cane talking about how his tweeting hand is broken and that is his career like I woke up thinking I was poor today so now I'm really hungry I hate Ben Carson Yeah I WanNa Call Ben Carson a lot of words that I will not it landed on Carson's right you know it was like one of his many great choices free boat trip trip so it was like a respectable Cuba gooding junior era thoughts yeah no I think you could beat him yeah I'm on your show so I will say I think you can be thank you guys yeah and it's like and it's like black kids grew up reading like your little book about how you were a doctor and like it was gooding junior played president that I think people lost respect for brain surgeons generally I think that's true like I used to think wow I don't mind toxic masculinity when it comes to favour spin it one more time it's been a five more times who cares and it's just like so many people like raise their kids being like be like Ben Carson he can be a doctor you know like he can be he's the I'll be honest that that's the one I was hoping for its landed on Spicer and the pope first some background Sean Spicer many flaws but he is a and then he decided he wanted to go into politics and he ruined it he ruined it like when it's any rapper talks about policy vowed Catholic he goes to church he has he wears the ash on Ash Wednesday he has you know he he does all the rituals I'm not a Catholic I'm a Jewish person but there's ash on his forehead on Ashwin Spicer is Barack Obama's press secretary the the series of hilarious events that led to that WII holy Culkin white use my assumption honey I shrunk the kids were wide I don't know Ben it can be a doctor this before we had a 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Sonic 06 with Jordan Morris

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Sonic 06 with Jordan Morris

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should also have and romance so weird looking like dog like human lady oh at but give a bat friend super duper hot i love it like bagel teddy's on that bat hey how do you feel about long pauses oh buddy i did i love a long pause this week on out of this get played it sonic oh six welcome out of this get played the show where we discuss the worst in weirdest video games of all time i'm i'm nick wider alongside heather end campbell heather why are we doing this you know halfway through my playing of sonic yeah but it's but it's a podcast i was like this is going to ruin games from me and i was already a video game journalists right should have really video remmy susani goes sixers release lee x box three sixty and playstation three om it's a one of the three d sonics it's feature sonic and many of his shitty friends it's filled with bugs glitches in a truly bizarre and unsettling ling inter species love story oh and time travel time travel poorly explained i mean non explained the time travel it is baffling we all know sonic the hedgehog big storied history but one thing is for certain generally each game in the series he's is worse than the last one so a but before we get to that since this is the first episode let's talk real quick about each of us an order histories are playing video games i've been a lifelong gamer 'em i grew up you know putting quarters in the arcade to play street fighter two and that i graduated to being eight executive editor freeplay magazine deca monthly andrew rocket magazine which i think only had like five issues a and then a yeah and then i stopped doing all if that because it's fucking sucks yeah i i in a similar sort of arc for me grew up playing video games love them i still love them fewer of them partly because life gets in the way but i worked before i got into my current job tv writing i worked in video gaming for about five years of the game designer first the first ever the game tester and then i worked in doing game designed for you know of about half a decade 'em end it as far as my expertise on shitty games i've made shitty games yeah so i know the hard work that goes into them some credits include up by pirates of the carribean the legend of jack sparrow the game that featured the voice acting of johnny depp and the writing of johnny depp sister so that a lot of you guys remember you may remember fantastic for rise of the silver surfer be terrible a comic book movie with that yeah it was the second original fantastic for one okay yeah a i don't remember that well they've got turned into a worst game and i worked on that and they also worked on a prep maybe my my worst my most ignoble credit the sopranos road to respect a which was more insulting to the greatest each tv show of all time then the sopranos family cookbook just a complete complete cluster fuck a story about joey nails a fictional character added for the game as he tried to rise in the ranks of the sopranos crime family i know that this came out after a second cd cd game does sound like sega's cd being like all full motion video and you end the way you program that was just by filming i think that it that it would be a better f mb game if you got dando fenian there in the original cast a paulie walnuts was actually acting it ended that it would at least be somewhat interesting and i you know they were getting into our guest in one second but we also want us to start producer matt apple that goes along with us for this journey hi matt guys going matt you're gaming history your your passion is a gamer eyes so my my passion is game restarted when i was a little kid and my uncle had 'em my uncles like young but like not like a that young he's a little older than me so he had like all like be like news systems are coming out rabbi and i my system was the first playstation and it was just like i've ever since that i i was like a sports kid when i was growing up but then i got playstation is like i'm never going back outside why i am like i i still kept up with playstation i have the intendo switch i play a lot of video games andy i i i just think the real good at ida i refused to feel bad about it but i don't think anybody does anymore right there like cool now they're mainstream yeah i feel like the question now isn't a do you play video games it's what do you play me yeah like my mom right pokemon go yes yeah you got you know i i take public transit a lot and people are on the bus and on the trainer just playing games on their phone the of all ages and demographics it has become a thing where they used to be a stigma attached germer no friend though when in trenton intend to what's called new friend oh no i don't give me that was something that was just my name name bully anton sugar anyway let's introduce are guess he's a writer for matt midnight and cartoon network's kitty any sort of the podcast jordan jesse go in bubble jordan morris is jordan hi guys thanks for having me thank you for being here and how are you i'm good thanks what a fun topic on you guys are so fun in the intro for a second i stopped being mad at you for making me place now so i'm mad again a ball hopefully that fury will will add to the the the podcast her before we get into to this week's game what is your interest in games what is your background is a game i'm sure i think a a a a lake heather perhaps my happiest memories are putting quarters into a streetfighter to a pizza place lamppost pizza mission viejo california great great streetfighter there a video subsequently championship edition better to turbo super street fighter two super she found a future of us you fire alpha's you go on yeah but yeah i still play games this day i'm a i'm a i'm kind of a kind of a playstation guy these days oh ps four i just got a switch and i'm loving it a weirdly a you nick were nice enough yet ring over sonic a sex 'cause i did not have a copy right why would you like a an you brought over you brought over six and a few hours later a the mailman brought my copy of super smash ultimate so my weekend i laying greatest edition of one of my favorite franchise waits on it goes six well it's just playing this song it just playing sonic and smash that's what you're doing to think of it that way so yeah equally fun equally fine literally no that's that's a great point there my problem is mine in the wrong head space i could have been having fun that whole time but let's get into sound it goes six so there's a any any guesses real quick on what year this was released who ninety no no no what's this i mean i mean just given playing it yeah what's it the first video game there were no other video games for this yeah this is a guy radar tech made on there's still a skilled yeah i wonder if it had been the first video game if people would have been like really cool or we have stop media people running away from it like the train coming at the screen right yeah yeah 'em yeah two thousand six released for x box three sixty shortly thereafter for ps three but a worst some hours on ps three the port which we all played who is is is the loading times longer slum loading time it's it's it's rough also i wanna say that we we played this game on updated like i turned off my internet so yeah there was no way the patch the game this is the release client for this game right i i mean i got a new copy so i don't know if it was pry who is patched in the release or not but either way it was like very buggy even if they patched it it's still got a lot of problems vigil titled just sonic the hedgehog 'em the problem with this in development were began with their windy original leader original development laid andy creator sonic the hedgehog eugene knockout resigned and they had a rush out the game did try to make the holiday season twenty in two thousand six and also the market series fifteenth anniversary one bit of detail the development team considered this eight greedy reboot inspired by batman begins so that was this with their attempt to start the franchise over in a darker direction with the fifteenth anniversary of sonic the hedgehog like it wasn't important released title he was it was rushed for christmas said the kids could play the new sonic the hedgehog right that it's almost like a big miscalculation to be like this is the reboot this this this were just calling the sonic the hedgehog this is a big swing just say like this this is where restarting the series now but we were also got a rush it out and we we you know we we just gotta get it done in time andrea you know that that kind of worked against it 'cause you're gonna make that meant that movie kinda wanna take as much time as you need you think there was any moment where in the corporate a climate of this game release that any person looks at another person with like were this is terrible film obviously it's bad from the star yeah you know i i will even i'll say though that i made me went into it with a little bit of hope based on that opening cut scene right because you know it it's so not sonic i mean it's it's it starts out is like it's just say final fantasy yeah yeah it looks like mart yeah absolutely a but you know inside of grounds and i'm like you know what this is bonkers i like bonkers and i think i was definitely thinking of because i i i've just got a switch i was thinking about these kind of that kind of delightful anachronism in new dunk city in odyssey yeah mario interacting with human like characters in these kind of situations you rarely see mario in yeah and that is maybe the most fun video game level of the past ten years like is there a more fun video game thing so yes is this is there is a is this sonics you know it was is this their attempt that right putting him in the southern world and kind of see how that's fun and then the the it and the game just once the game starts at just sucks immediately it pops against his cause sonics character design as mario's does pops against the real world proportions and the real cities have their differences new dog city is so like realised in like living in like fun just it's just fun to go around in half and the city of solely on a is just like a much much shittier version of that it's like the difference between like hanging out in new york city and hanging out and like downtown sacramento center as just like oh this it's kind of a bummer they try and populated they're just but i mean obviously didn't have the you know the v budget or manpower or whatever because so they're just like people sitting in chairs in the middle of the street staring off into the nothing yet it's so believe not breathing anything that they don't have a cup in front of them like they're just sitting in stare what is your life where you're wearing a baseball hat standing on a street corner for all time but right there also every one of them says one word yeah they all they all say hey hey right they they may they may make a decision not to give them full voices it's kind of a you know a kind of a similar sort of but it's not like they don't fully commit to it like the the sounds of of what is that's fucking leaf game where you farming trade all the got animal crossing the back in the box description like it's not like that where it's like well right like it's instead it's hey wild gesturing draft but also just insane like imagine if someone acted like that would have been hey what's wrong with you or you gesturing so wildly a matchup cued up i do here we go right again again that is the saturday of meeting your friends new boyfriend i know we've heard a lot about you know there's one thing i noticed in the city is that you really hammers home outpour the fall away i is when you got like when you're sonic running around in tales his behind you or a or or you know you're shadow and you've got ruse the bat with you because you'll just be like walking and there's all these like rivers and you know it's it's like a coastal city so a lot of water surrounding it and so you'll just be walking and then all of a sudden you're companion would just fall to their deaths in the water so much higher around like tails who can fly like a half dozen times as you're walking between checkpoint any screens green yeah it's a it's it's very odd they made the decision to keep that in and then you know the other thing in the world in the in the city of solely on where you're going around is it there's these portals which are taking you from a you know into the level ended a proper levels and they're they're kinda the mario sixty four paintings it's like you know those those a you know we jump into the painting but like that is like a like such a moment of magic where you see the painting ripple and you enter into this new world exactly i hear it's just like eight hard cut to a loading screen jumping any figure about you're gonna jump into the to the portal but no you never make that moment of connection to stop it freezes you in mid air that happens like when you when you delivered the final blow to abbas right you're supposed to be a triumphant moment and given the this is so impossible the play killing a boss is a real chore yeah you should at least be able to revel in it for a second but as soon as you deliver that final hit hard cut my doesn't even give you a minute to feel kind of good right by a my two favorite things about the hub world or that when you break a box it slows down the game so it really starts jogging along and that also they they introduced that storm mechanic where it's like oh and this is a direct quote with the money checkout the store and then i don't believe that mechanic comes back after the first two does it ever do you ever have to buy anything there are things are there upgrades you buy the what's confusing is at the store sometimes does not seem to be there or maybe i just got so disoriented with the city's geography but then there's also these like there's these little floating tony has a great athlete and get yeah those guys they yeah you you almost like i at first in realize worst store like little mobile stores but you're gonna wreck with their and then you could buy upgrades which i think are maybe sometimes needed progression i can't tell it's so confusing 'cause ranger also currency yeah the first time you get be likes you upgrade it shoots you down that like chain of all right first level and the first few times i did that it shocked me off in the lake about that if the guy the store tricking you know you're not good enough ha m d a n you know this is what you mentioned a second ago jordan and almost two you're pointing a right now heather is that this is the thing i'd forgotten because i don't go out of my way to play bad games anymore why would i write up i forgot forgot 'cause they played so many bad games as a kid i almost forgotten the bad games almost universally are hard because they're poorly designed controls are clunky the camera is bad of the difficulty level isn't balance and this game is like it's it's frustrating frustrating because it's just like there were times when he is wanna be like you're not doing what i want you to do yeah can't like wrangle sonic to behave the way you want him to behave yeah like in the snowboarding level right instead of pressing extra jump you press x one having squat and then you really yes acts to make him jump manager that squad narrator who by the way to explain some things to you but yes i'm sonic way then sometimes tales explain things to you so like i pick one i is there narrate anyway so the narrator says hold doubt on the button for as long as you can with like release it ever i could probably hold it for a while like but like a paperweight using waiter say that yeah hold x for as long as you can yeah yeah and he just got this game show host delivery where he's just sort of like low why button can be used for melting or melting vehicle like all right i'll talk to you again in our once you're forgotten about you will never meet me i murdered my family uppercut admit to the bottom at us right colonel champions exist in this world i you know to be honest i knew the game is going to be bad yeah but i had no idea that it would be this bad rap it's really surprisingly bad osha i i mean i knew about it you know it's it is you know it it's dubious reputation i mostly know about from the bad cut scenes and the fact that sonic kisses human looking woman she ended up like a human woman syria was distracting lee hot erotic senator yeah but i didn't know the the game itself will be i thought it would just be corny or like yeah goofy or you know totally off but it's so hard play already played really hard to play in its first off i wanna go back you the human woman is not as attractive as 'em ruge the bat who's wearing like aid boost ea yes like course said very soul and there are multiple times with the cameras pointed straight down these animals brad there were so you look at animator was working late night by himself after they were rushing doing fourteen hour days you get this game shift on time he made some he made some calls a yeah i think they care the character princess elise who is who doctor aig man is pursuing but she has they a she's the princess of solely on a an she has eight weird romance with sonic seems to spend most of the game being carried by sonic like that seems to be mostly her role but a yes she she looks at her character design is what she looks like a bryce dallas howard real dole lifeless she looks like a mannequin that somehow a court slightly waterlog right like a puff piece off corpse of a mannequin yeah that that mannequin was in a river for awhile shout put a dress it's like almost right it's just like barely wrong and that's why it's not good right and the detail on her dress is far far more detail than anything else in the game itself like it feels like most of the budget mostly animation budget went into her purge arrest and then a doctor egg man's mustache like individuals strands of hair that animated independently how do you guys feel about these slimming down of doctor x men it's an interesting choice you know he is such a was famously wide buddy guy here here he has a little bit more realistic proportion now he's more like doctor long man right after i feel like that's what they decided to make okay we're gonna make his body promotions more realistic or not gonna call the doctor robot nick which kind of sounds like a name were scott were calling calling doctor aig man man for this one is that a permanent shift now like he's permanently egg man or if they gone back to her about nick i feel like you encounter robotic in some point but i you know i i don't know how much it's it's actually verbalize and the new sonics that did you guys really instruction manual 'cause i read the instruction manual i did not ridi instruction in yorkshire enough doctor egg man is it that he opens with he has a three hundred eyecare which like i i know these supposed to be like a mad scientist but you never really considered the idea that that man sitting down to take on his they teach math not verbal work out how we learn struggled with he essays save earlier learner 'em yeah it's it's that's interesting that he would like was it wasn't online how is he taking that whether you take the mad scientist is it like you know build the weather machine within a certain amount of time like i i wonder i wonder if like he finished it turns it in and they're like hey you got a future for you in a lot of different career path what do you wanna do and he's like i wanna i wanna capture the flames of darkness right kind of a waste of his skillset had been working for nasa or something or at least writing a column for a parade magazine unless maybe his endgame is just something so sophisticated that we don't understand it as normal cues right because we don't have the high q the he has a true so maybe 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get these by spicer later replayed from other characters yeah point of view in the outcome is different you're controlling that character it's so strange but yes the the silver the syllabus by you're sonic is is fighting against i started at sonic so i had no context who silver what like he shows up shouts at me that i needless trigger race and then you're fighting him in a run at him like you're normally like oh you there's there's the boston from i'll i'll do a homing dash on him if you run towards him that kills you like that's the way to end but he says there is no way over burned over i know you okay i know like frozen in its big yeah i don't oh my god and all the links first okay i like the first off why there there's three seconds of space in between every line of dialogue game every line it's like why you doing this sonic no reason like that happens constantly but with this boss fight in particular he lock you in into paralysis yeah why not just immediately fire you are right like what is happening just it you know taught you maybe you realize how powerful he is unique kind of process the fact that it is no other player nikki you you'll programmed games yeah how hard would it have been to trim the length of time that you're paralyze 'em i mean i i don't wanna speak for their development team but i think that's a little variable change i feel like that that feels like a thing a two week you could you could make over and over again as your as your play testing but also i mean you know it is that would that would also make this boss fights possibly fun end lead and not frustrating and that would be off tone for the rest of the game i think i really i you know i kind of made my peace with the fact that i agreed to do this to at least play some of this game rab this conversation so at i think at this point i started thinking of this like a dark souls experience intent like i'm not like the game is doing this on purpose it has it's smarter than me yeah i have to beat it though i have to figure out what it wants i mean i think in then i kind of starting to have a little bit of fun playing it when i'm like okay well this makes no sense right a you know there's there's a logic here the i don't know it's an alien worlds a if i could just figure out my way it's treating it like a puzzle rather than an action right yeah that might i mean that's probably the right attitude that you could that the the only way you get through something this panetta's punishing lee difficult and nonsensical 'em silver the hedgehog so he comes into the comes in existence you later play on this is his first appearance in the sonic the hedgehog series a i will say you know the voice acting in general this game is maybe a little over the top silver the hedgehog feels to me like he's trying to like out inks anus ganic skywalker like so like it was trigger i'm gonna go after you like oh boy you know i i did do that part of the reason i wanna bring you guys you're an honest valuation of performing well it was real bad bad job i know and trust you as a friend day honest so if he is angsty except for wins shadow explain him at time travel exist at his immediate reaction is something like that part where like amy roses like we've gotta find my friend and he's like why am i doing then she like hug and he goes oh and then like follows after amy rose does not have a lot like she she has kind of age she gets a short shrift in this game 'cause she's basically what short shrift shrift isn't that expression i think it shrift but i also don't know what a shift is i'm it's a it's a confusing phrase i've only heard in the context of a short shrift i've never heard shrift used otherwise i've never heard shrift until right i've heard short end of the stick but shrift what's what's the what sounds more nonsensical shrift or methyl list right now is ripping the word human god comes out so so amy rose the she her job is to a she like is she seems very dumb in this game how she's she at first mistake silver for sonic help silver to try to find bliss trigger who she doesn't realize is sonic then when silver is fighting sonic she like guard sonic and stop silver from my guess killing him from murdering murdering him but then later on there's a there's an element there's a there's a sequence in sonic storyline that's that's the trial of love where sonic has did choose between princess police and amy rose and he just end you just go tourist princess elise like standing nearby another portal what is what is so she's just around and just be like the runner up the whole time it's just such a it's such a thankless rover this character i guess she's too dumb to understand what's going on that's that's where they expression always and amy rose never and at least not know that explain six celia when you explain it away i totally get it yeah the the snowboarding we touched on this the level sections abruptly end the camera is so so bad if you can't change which direction i mean at least in my release you couldn't change which direction the camera rotated right which was not i believe it was it was a airplane controls you presley opposite direction of the camera's movement is a reverse which is different than how a lot of games do it it's also like yeah there isn't like a like a quick click button reset the camera behind way isn't there you've you did you not know i believe left triggers that what that does i think left trigger like resented the cal train or three the whole time no avail yeah ds i was one thing and you're like this is about three dozen or unsolvable rob lowe press no other heather i texted my three were review of game after playing for about an hour and it was a a can't see shit so hard to tell where you're going and what he's doing i know and you get trapped in rock so much right like rumbled it you get trapped in yeah it's it's it's so bad it's real it's it's i can't stress enough how surprisingly back in it's jarring lee bad it's unbelievably bad right would you guys kereta to take a chance of trying to summarize the story like what would be you're you're capsule summary you're i am db description or mobile games description i guess in this case of the story of sonic the hedgehog sonic oh six well i mean i only got as far and i didn't watch any place there is there anything i only got as far as you know you kind switching from i did the first kind of silver mission that in apocalypse which was you know it in a good game could have had fun moment of could have been you know kind of speeding around they kind of crumbling city right in the middle of being destroyed like neat idea you're opening a band that too i think yeah yeah using you're using metallic kinetic powers till like sort of you know build makeshift bridges and stuff like that but it's fun or is like fun in theory including first degree 'em so yes i yes i only kind of got that far i kind of only learned about the time travel element of character switching you know timeline altering element 'em so yeah i could maybe only speak up to their okay okay that's that that's good enough as far as further than most people who play this game guy sure yeah so okay so in in in that time time time a there is there's the princess she a she said it during her coronation sees a horrible vision of the end of the world a and then a doctor egg man a very swell comes in and kidnapped her because she has control over an energy that could bring about that apocalypse ray a sonic the hedgehog who is no one seems to think it's weird that he's a hedgehog it's just part of their world i think it's weird at all he eight ed says he's gonna save her a he then but also parallel to this there's a feature that has been destroyed by this monster hedgehog gold silver the hedgehog another he has of of a friend who jumps and then at shadow the hedgehog find silver and says we can prevent this you have to go back in time and destroy it bliss trigger he had some of chaos emerald inside the chaos emerald he sees sonic the hedgehog we know to be able to trade and so he traveled back in time in order to stop sonic from bringing about the apocalypse and that's that's as far as i've got that that's a very good pretty good miss you miss man gory detail yeah which is it solely on a is a is comically eight constitutional monarchy good equipment yeah here we go here's shadow the hedgehog is going to discover the facts of solely on a solely on city of water it has a constitutional monarchy the primary industries are tourism and crafting precision machine the currents princess in leave the widest admits basically to in a place like this is my ashley first time seeing ruge batch jesus christ look at those two god there enormous there and also they're human colored like they're human flesh colored they make a plantation colored yeah her her jaw is a different color race so like the the the part of her that's that's it there too she's that's human skin the human skin it might literally be humans game shooting kind of doing like a buffalo bill saying oh trophies suraj skins her enemies alive saw it is it's it's normally but a but oddly erotic i'm what i'm just saying like we agree and i don't think that i think that i speak for all of us amanda actually that we don't like it all right well we all we're all we're all in agreement on what i would say is yeah it's so weird they just have like these wicked pedia bullet points but they wanna reid off about the gas solely on like at what point would argue just like do we need this line of dialogue do we need to spend time animating this cut scene in i guess their decision was yes within a even with their compressed development timeline they were like we gotta get in there that is the constitutional modern gonna wanna know the system of government of solely on a which is based on venice so maybe they just took like the first three sentences of old venice and like dropped it into solely on on were like yeah that that works don't don't change anything m v a the way the story is structured you kinda gotta divided into three chunk so you've got the sonic portion where you're you're sidekicks their tails nichols by the way playing is tales fucking blow it's not a bad find him he drowned so much like even the way he moves on the surface is is is bad and then when he gets on the air it's so so shitty edges so clumsy the he control his controller not not finance you're going to go as far as to put airplane controls on the camera when sonic is running around why wouldn't you make tales controls more airplane like sure it's awful and his attack wendy narrator explains attached to you perello i'm back burying my i don't exist in game old in your mind that he says a press square to launch a dummy ring bomb yes in double tap x two snipe a dummy ring bob that's not a good explanation what any of that man dummy ring bomb i refused to give you any context with the phrase dummy rings all know what that is just like we all know ruge the bad is very very fast and you just start avoiding at i like within fifteen minutes and playing the game like i'm not fighting anything anymore i'm gonna fly past it or jump around well you can skip so much progression it especially with the with the characters who can get airborne like you you know like ruse you skip so much progression just by like jumping around or or just speeding past a enemies in speeding bass combat and they're so few areas that are just like discreetly gated where you have the debate everywhere you have the beat everyone debris grass yeah even just get most of the most of the fighting in combat in of itself like especially with sonic is there is a lot of depth to it if you just jumping in using homey in attacks repeatedly and you could chained together a bunch of homey attacks and the sequence where you could just like you know slaughter a whole army of robot i wanna believe that at some meeting somebody was fired for saying guys we've lost our way this is not like go back and play sonic the hedgehog original yes like play that and then play well or making an i bet that guy was for my guy smoking a cigarette and we get i wanna be turned on by a by the bat we've gotta get under that that level guy would just to clarify you're in japanese guy right yeah it's it's at and then you know you've got these you've got the silver lentil levels that we touched on a where you're supporting cast is blaze the cat named me rose oh yeah it'll mega also the robot comes into support shadow a little bit in a weird story line but i don't i couldn't quite follow 'em let's talk about a as the story approaches it's it's it's conclusion zenith seeing if there is an infamous scene where sonic we touched on this already where sonic the hedgehog is a lying on his back and he seems to have all the a life drained out of them and there's only one thing that can revive him not lying he's floating floating around there yeah unloading on his bass need suspended in mid air 'em andrea yeah he t a he is he is without life force and he needs to be revived with a little help from a princess malady my time to train the sleep are prior number far apart but please my boy johnny come back so just where the music climax is is when where the two of them kiss where nick climax i i look the screen went to white and so today what's up tech kids i'm not talking about robots are androids living battle star galactica though might get there soon i'm talking about people who work in the tech industry hey if you're looking for you next tech gig big it's time to flip the job search script with indeed prime and indeed prime top tech companies apply to you with jobs you'll love stop living for the weekend and start doing what you love within deed prime you know in in you're not gonna stop living for the weekend entirely but the idea is you do what you love you never work a day in your life you've heard that idiom probably 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there is some buzz for some reason she could create a force field around no presley or one but the greater force field my wife's murder cold case yeah they their powers combined right yeah and and also in order to justify the inclusion of that power she also can keep them from sinking into quicksand yeah right that's great yeah like fuck it fucking nothing fucking fucking makes its way to drown those those part of vision like macaire just drown at any point and also this is a game where we know he walks underwater engine breeze air from arable like that's right i wished sure so the fact that when he enters water not only does he immediately die he passes through the sea floor invisible continues to plummet he's killed immediately he does he stinks like a stone it's fucking bet they do like i mean part of be like the character action game she i like being feeling like you are a cool character and he just like he he just dies the sooners he steps in san francisco blame yeah like there yeah it's just like right you don't feel cool playing these characters not the boss fights are not particularly fond is as we touched on a one of the by abbas says you encounter eggs server as sure as like go not even though one headed dog dogwood good one even attempted upon by the way yeah cerebral they just they just what age prefects in front of all the jets there's another boss egg why burn 'em yeah they egg why why vern that's a that's when a robot next the creations you'll fight you fight late game a yeah it's end they all suck all these these these battles suck they're they're not particularly fond egg server s in at least in sonics 'cause you refight these later as these other care i don't know what's going on with the chronology of this game like a timeline is confusing yeah 'cause you're refunding the same characters you reach a version of the same levels slow with with different characters and they're different outcome but egg man man tells us that that these powers is not only affect the flow of time but the the time time itself you know what you're hearing is just how linear time is like evaporated by who's powers on silver shadow who is the one that destroys time in the game oh boy i can't read our fucking now listen they've got they've they've all got half and i was the guy idle time first oh my god it's just so bad when you're fighting egg subarus sir yes sir wrists i think it's server eggs deborah's deborah's maybe i think a server egg sarah just run like a a brunch menu at okay drivers at any point they were like he's got more he's gotta have more attacks and they had more attacks and they're like this is impossible the way the game barely controls so they only attack he's gonna have this charge run at at cameron and that's yeah we got a scale this back to make this is as simple as possible just this one aspect that were not were not simple find the story even the slightest 'em yeah so so as we get towards the ending well let's talk about the ending cinematic i'm not sure if you guys watched it i did not finish this game but i did watch standing cinematic on you to i didn't a okay so they ending cinematic has elise has put out the solaris brett flame which this laris i think look i don't i don't blame that internal flay at it we when we finally see this large claim it's just like a little tiny like it's like a torch size flame hard to render yeah in the real reason but the story reason is it's it's kind of like oh all this all this chaos all this destruction all this stats over this small thing and at least has put out this lars flame which i guess completes the timeline or something but she says she's doing she's like if i do this that means you and i saw nick will never have met so she's basically just racing all these outcomes like everything that's happened over the course of the story by snuffing out this flame and in the end then racing connection with saudi she even has a moment of doubt there where she's like i don't care about the world like i just wanna be with like i'd rather hear i just wanna stick with what did you think she's getting like seem like that big of a prize is well yeah little blue guy he's a fifteen year old had charlie but always scowling the life expectancy and so you have a hedgehog is like nine his his eye is his singular i is just like being that close to and i know that large he would ever smell smelly would stink yes most of us would stink to be that close to a large i just my longest sentence these ever said is we got a got a bad life that would be anything we didn't touch on guys any any any any observations we we didn't hit on yet a okay i know i know we're gonna we're gonna get to a point where we we talk about some positive yes but maybe this is worth a larger discuss yes a the fucking music in this rule the music and harassed positive that that that we have said before recordings will try to have one positive and we all agreed on the same thing 'cause the only reason this game there's like there's a great a there's a there's a there's an awful side mission a called solely on a boys where you randomly wander around town looking for boys a nick you gotta be a s on that and a breast eight a collectible bringing back you might find those bad boys the boys the more the point three the narrator i saw it and you know and you're running around the city and they had this jhansi little scott song that is so fucking cool yeah so like you know it's so like great for the you know seaside setting yeah not and it's and awful mission is bad and frustrating but a but yeah it's kind of a pleasure just gonna run around two this music it's really need a side missions in general all have that like it's crazy taxi me it's like you know like crazy menu screeners i guess all that music was yeah yeah yeah yeah like yet offspring i'm just remembering the sound in my head of what crazy taxi should have sounded like like all of the side missions are so that did you guys do the one where you talk to the policemen oh you have to figure out which ones blind one what i thought it was a device that didn't involve 'em controlling you're character break from the game one of the worst part is controlling your guy you you know how like what the police department still up and you know you talked at twelve them and then you take the twelve cops and then they want you to guess which one is in charge of the real world scenario transfer the game ended the police officer you you speak to a initially about you're emergency is one of the police officers will be lying it's a yeah that that that's a that's a baffling mission yeah the base and they've got a couple of trivia ones in there to where you have to remember details from the game and then jumping to the left or right right yeah it's just it's madness a yeah the music though you know they cause the snowboarding level is so so frustrating and snowboarding controls are so bad you could just like you in basically reverse direction in stop on a dime and it just feels nothing like snowboarding in that level there's a there's like a thumping track but i still have in my now but it's just like great and then i would i would listen to again so yeah there there's a great great original soundtrack to this one incidentally a one of the songs the main the main a theme song which i believe is called his way i think it's called his way which place during the title team and it's about jesus christ sonic is christian fan already shit any pregnant i love that song titled theme song was was sampled by drake on a song k o t a so a so yeah that is one redeeming thing that came out of of of sonic oh six a why did they there's a real centric tsa jobs so there's the drink don do we have the original theme of the contrast to hear the sample yeah all right so let's say that's what we sampled yeah yeah the title names a banger drake should just a rap over that that's pretty good yeah i know i think i think they the way they slid they slowed it down actually made a less interesting and it it's it's distinct it sounds like say guy you know like it it's like than the nintendo music is so stay right in the you know in the marvel music is so distinct but this is what it sounds like say gets really really cool yeah it's weird that to like a at an interesting choice in that drake song is that d a a the chorus hook is a snowy you jarring but it works i'm a well let's get to our to our reviews of this game so a we said something positive so i think we've covered that so i think what will do is will just go around and will give the game a new miracle decimal rating based on the amount of time we played it i'll go first a you know this game is a mess there few redeeming qualities it's frustrating because you know there is eight good game within their a within that shell deep deep within that shell but it was not allowed enough time to adjust state andy emerge and so you just have something that's that's just really concrete or clunky in clumsy an unsatisfying and frustrating i'm gonna say this is a four point one that's right yeah go and i do i that's high man okay hi i'm sticking with four point one my heart what's your what's your yeah i mean you know i mean again a great soundtrack and you in in some kind of like points being a big swing you know i mean brady brady easy just to do another side scrolling sonic game in you know people would have liked that and it would have been fun lakeside sonic mania came out recently way like in double an awesome they clearly they weren't trying to do that sure right exactly so you know there's some some kind of cool you know ideas about kind of you know modernizing the game for the kind of open world generation and then you know the branching timelines while confusing infusing is unexpected 'em so yeah but i mean it's it's you know i'm i'm i'm digging here there's there's such a such a bad game it's such a so let's not fun to play right i'm gonna say two point one boy i wanna go theriault heather you know i was thinking about how somebody played this game and then they went on to design lightening returns which is effectively the exact same game but without the hedgehogs and i think think that that on its own merits like a higher score then i normally would have given a because they're both about like a tertiary character destroying time to change the past from a burning and apocalypse and the music's pretty good so i would give it one point one world with a point ones here at one point one five method you play this game at all i didn't get to play it but watching another player just before recording did make me nauseous a hung it was like very disorienting story anti permitted just watch a and not seeing you do regular sonic things which is just running or maybe even going through loop a did seem the suck real bad a i give it up again i'll give it a three point one one point one point water a an also to it so everyone knows are rubbery scores are out of one million so oh okay i saw dacian yeah yeah there are all in the same ballpark one million is a high score right gaming yes but you know that was those were are takes but hey it's time for maybe we're wrong yeah heather you and i have found some positive reviews in his game we have not told each show show needs to each other we're going to have to read a couple here and and we're going to react to them so i'll go first i've got one from the game facts message boards a this is from volkan heine he writes this might be the best game i've ever played seriously the controls are so tight the levels were smartly designed in everything just makes sense the side quest they're pure genius like the one we gotta find the main guard it turns out the he's the one you're already talking to genius this is definitely the best need venture a series of games i don't see see why people hate it there was a moment where i thought this guy was being facetious but then his conclusions seem so earnest that i think this is this guy one hundred percent thinks this is the best of the sonic series and maybe the best of the games have the opera i'm looking at the data there looks like it's opposite day on opposite day for what it's worth so that's i guess so this will speak to the the score the or the review i'm buttery it said there are every game is for a person right like so maybe this was made for that guy dissatisfied this one guy who want it to be real confused end wanted to look at a ruse the bat and a low cut top maybe if we'd watch that guy play it it would have been perfect right yeah like everything would have been instinctual for him like it would have just been him zipping through levels no camera issues like everything would have been exactly the way that it was supposed to look yeah yeah he here like a person or one detours quicksand you got it i know you love and character yeah i mean and i think you know it's probably worth pointing out there are probably a lot of positive feelings out there about this game just because people love sonic so much in that drew onic community is so intense and i'm sure you know and people people from what i can tell kind of like the story of sonic in his weird extended cast so maybe they're people who just go into it loving him so much that just the fact that he's in a game is is enough for them right i don't know if we can look up something on the fly but nick one showed me the intro to eight sonic cartoon that i had never seen southern underground sonic underground oh yeah a which speaks i think largely to an alternative yeah or is this lor this law it is this in any game i'll say i'd minimum this makes way more sense than the game we played this is this is about a a thousand times more coherent then sonic oh six but yeah i i don't think i don't think they actually used the sauna got around university for any game at least not not one that i play have you seen this jordan a i don't think so oh my god you're in such a tree good song wrong when the ball on the throne oh yeah i'll tell you one thing that why time but i just fucking rule fucking good morning it's may win in a more left to learn what the marine freedom bite okay mother she knows they ended his time in no well let's see they're all right yeah no no there is hugely popular fan i know but i have to wait to peel them they wow yeah that makes me like sonic six i feel like all sonic there were more of that i wish there were more just like fun in how the instead of being so override a yeah that's just that's just a joyous also like a minute long intro sequence end they need every second to lay out that when i accepted the most complicated story 'em heather do you have a review yeah i do this comes from my former boss a play magazine and a it's an infamous review a for how 'em euphoric he was euphoric yet but you gotta work yeah okay gerber us egg you for although they're infamous flies are still circling be meant sonic team delivered an immense hedgehog opus incorporating every series mainstay around three vastly different adventures featuring sonic chateaux newcomers silver everything's sonic fans love is here riding on some of the most exhilarating game play ever seen on any sis i gave it a nine point five hand gun point five why that is hyperbolic he the pros best sonic ever hands down to dear otherwise cons just still just a few slight bug every level at all a yeah 'em well i guess i can't speak this is this is a fun sort of anecdotes when i would view games poorly at play i was pressured by advertising teams anthony editor maybe soften up the language was every game is for a person if i'm playing it and i hate the game the game is made from me sure in so he was reviewing it for people who would like this kind of game but he should have said that it was nine point five out of ten for like steve an arnold named the five he later he later a amended is gordon eight point five out of ten because apparently they told him to be a loading issues would be taken care of by the time the game launch and they weren't but i think that's bullshit i think they lie here's maybe trying to read on that a little i also don't think he played here's one from week you you gamer seven this is on metacritic and this is a user of you ten out of ten one of the better games in two thousand six right with saint throw is good game play an astonishing graphics it's not to broken broken only with occasional wall clip end they could've made the story a little better it's fine though i think you should play it i think he we start with ten out of ten in one of the better games a two thousand six you shouldn't settle on why i i i i like i just wanna read this headline this is from the mirror but why sonic the hedgehog is awful and always had jordan morris thank you so much for joining there's another lap but yeah thanks for having me this is a blast thank you for in during such an awful awful game hopefully you'll get the play smash brothers now and actually have some fun with johnny don't like video games and he okay all right i wore sex or food all right so sapped all joy from my life i'll be joined the priesthood 'em jordan anything you plug it this time sure i do a podcast called jordan jesse go on the maximum fund network in there's one called bubble up their it's in eight episode a side by comedy mini series a lots of laughs lapse lapse was the last lots of lots of laugh seven ventures the monsters a it's a good time it's called bubble and and it's wherever you get your podcast super funny podcast narrative podcast with some very funny people named in the apples are best podcast in twenty eighteen yeah or yeah i know thank you a real treat go check it out yeah i see it be podcast equivalent of v opposite of sonic hosting again i'm gonna stop stop stop saying one of apple's best of twenty eighteen and i'm gonna start saying lee podcast opposite of what you mean oh yeah well i guess that'll do it for this episode of how did this get play this first one of these were going to do like maybe will i will do more i kind of hope we don't know part of me is like this wasn't great idea and once you're in it you're like this is the worst

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Episode 23-9 Hammer Time!

Rhythm and Pixels Video Game Music Podcast

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Episode 23-9 Hammer Time!

"Hit. TV. Stop Emerton. Welcome to rhythm and PIXELS video game podcast. This episode nine in podcast World Twenty-three. At twenty three dash nine and in real episode numbers I. Don't Know Anymore I've lost track. My Name is Rob Nichols. beat is so big. My beat is so bad. On every week we listen to great video game music and we find a topic, and we listened to tracks based on that topic from all consoles from all generations from the past to the present. We have a good time doing it Cornell. What the last time you play pop music was the last time. The arcade was opened. Honestly probably before that, which is funny, because I technically do own pop music in this house, I could play it right now. It's just it's not the same. Because the last time a concert happened wasn't like two thousand eight, if not sooner and then beyond that I. As he may be a little after maybe two thousand to two thousand eleven. Anyway, aside from Matt is also the fact that. I like going to the Arcada like the sounds and the sensations of being there and being part of that crowd, but playing at home doesn't feel as fun anymore. Despite the fact that the game is definitely still fun and lastly. Mind community out there to ask rip all the latest version of the game. You can play them on. The run it. Need to update mine, which is something I might do? I think it would work on that one that I lent you. That's possible try. A try because I think it does a lot of stuff. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Find the run the maybe an image online somewhere. Maybe ISOS yeah some weird nefarious means that we probably shouldn't talk about in public. So in the the DDR world, there's a player named Chris, Cheek. Who is the probably the best in the world? At DDR but. He made professional. But like he still competes in the whatever the cup or whatever it is the economy. All Star event every year and he's I think he won the last one. And he didn't win the last two, but like he's so he's incredibly, but he was also really really good at it. G Like stupid good and for the past five days he went back and tried to one hundred percent every single song in that game. Because no one's ever one hundred percent at one specifically one song in that game ever that's been out since two, thousand, seven or two thousand eight. He should just started with the one that no one's ever done and then worked back I. Think it was just like he had to give himself a whole lot of time. I don't know why he gave himself five days, but it just within five days. He did like I can't even get close to one hundred percent on these songs, even the easy ones just to get people in people aren't familiar to no one. Hundred percent is perfect rhythm. And accuracy right? Yeah, that's that's the idea it's. In DDR all perfect or marvelous in it. It's fantastic, so it's within twelve milliseconds of each note. And so he finally did it on. It's called. VERTEX squared, and it is. Hard I think one of the person who's done it and it's contested that he actually did do it. With me like I wish, I were better at those games because I do play like pump and. which for the record, the timing and pump of isn't as strict as. Well only, if you you play in competition mode, which you could, it is stricter than DDR. Looking at like right now. I play in like just a default game mood which is loose. Soup, even being loose like. When I play, it is either one or the other, either. I can't pass a song pretty much. Get a perfect and like I almost never miss a step. And I pretty much. Get it on perfect beat every time. It's just if I can't do a section. It tanks me, but if I can do a second I'm pretty much nailing it all. Yeah, exactly it's either all or nothing for me I get that to part of part of the train the. Train myself was to. Liquefy screw up a pattern that I don't get flustered in. Lose it entirely. I just try to pick back up where it left off, and that's a really hard skulled alarm because it's like Reading a sentence, and then suddenly, the language changes in just trying to get right back into it. or in the case of like nine hundred language changing, it'd be like a sentence where the grammar all. Word is improperly used nearly. I don't know I can't flow at this anymore. What do I do and you always stopped trying to pick up with? The word was supposed to be before moving on. Sometimes, we read the entire sentence with the proper word to sort of flow properly. None of horrible effect. Crap stock the word believe it or not doing the show of gotten better. Because like. The testimony on it might be just a general type I'm like why don't want to break the floor. I was I was reading the I was listening to re listening to our last episode was our our Patriot episode the sounds of summer if you're paying attention. To our listeners. And Yeah. You're so much better at reading out loud than I am. It's amazing. I always get like stuck. You know and you're just you. Put Your own spin on it. You've got your like your flow, you know. I think of it as almost like. It's not voice acting, but it's the same skill that would be used in voice acting where you get your giving. Here's a bunch characters. The reading like okay I gotta get his personality posted this voice and they put this voice. Once upon a time, you know who? Say That what we're practicing is any kind of art, but we're practicing something. Speaking. Yeah? We're practicing speak. All right, let's let's move. On so, we usually have a prequel episode that comes out for a Patriot listeners. This week is a little different. Because we ended up talking about some other stuff that we didn't record, said that be some other time. And because of that things got a little late. So now we are starting with the topic and the topic was I. don't know how it got on her list, but it is hammer time stop. Every time you listen to rhythm and it sold. Choose a cool topic in here with Flo. Tracks come out over and over again. The listen to listen listen. I'm putting putting on that but. Mercy. Like! It's so I just like I was just a joke, or did someone bring it up I always when I come up with topics, it's usually brought on by something obscure have come across in the day or like, for example I. Don't remember why came up with this anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised with something stupid like Oh crap I gotta. Put this up on the wall here. You'll get to do wait a minute. Ever. That's a toughie. Topic I can do hammer music. This past weekend we watched a movie with Dean. ratcliff called guns Akimbo had heard of this I am not a topic. It's crazy. It's on a crazy action movie where he's He is in like a kind of a a a rollerblade narrow bit Blade runner situation where there's like a its current day, but like there's like a weird underground fight club on the Internet where people are trying to kill each other for money. and. He's A. He's an Internet troll. Daniel Radcliffe is and so he's like he hates violence, and so he's like trolling everybody on that thing, and so they come in. They get them and they actually. Snail attached guns on his hands. and He. Wakes, up. To forty force them into this kind of blood sport game, but it's super, but anyway at the end there's a whole sequence where this The hero in quotes is fighting the bad guy in quotes, because not everyone screen this movie. With Hammers and he plays MC Hammer. Time. Weird coincidence. Guyq, Hey It's super violent, still kinda funny, but hold lot of blood. Can we use your song? Think is it just mirrors outside of Harry? Potter is Daniel Radcliffe entire like film and Broadway Repertoire. Wild and crazy, does it? Is We all we? We start after that? We started looking up again like everything that he's done. He's done some really interesting stuff I feel like he came out of this. Child Acting GIG. It to rise above being this one character, and he just chooses all of these weird interesting roles, and just pizzas must seem like a cool guy like this sounds like fun. Let's just do that. You know, and just does it. He does a whole movie replays a corpse. See I could see that being really entertaining like weekend at Bernie's, but from the perspective of Bernie now I never I haven't washed. They've Christie. Watchdog I away. It's called Swiss. Army man, and there's a guy who stranded on an island and the corpse of Daniel Radcliffe. He was somebody else rose up, and then the guy's going crazy with hunger in hallucinate said he's talking to him and becomes best friends with US dead person who just? And he doesn't talk as far here's. He's full of of. The supposedly really like. Like sad in heartwarming at the same time, but it's just a crazy guy dying on an island talking to a corpse. Whose Daniel Wreck Dana rackliff, yeah, and Marie watching a miracle workers which was on I, think it was on TNT and that's amazing Steve. SHAMISEN IT! It's so funny. You like that, too. That's another weird like. Like Weird fantasy type things so weird. That's been my thing. I'm a big Fan. I become a huge fan of shows that are getting like philosophical concepts things that we may not necessarily understand, but we have general concepts of you. All up like immediately one weekend. It took me to sit good. I was like I knew a newest started watching that it would be just be done. It's Zozo. Don't know what else spoiling it the concert up. Is a world where people developed the technology to Upload Jerks, consciousness and onto a server, and the server houses of variety of different afterwards these after lives are like IMOs essentially yeah. There forever owned by Corporation. So before you die, you ought to get uploaded, and then you go and your digital consciousness lives on the server. And the show involves a person who goes there. And then the people who work for the company then runs the server where his afterlife house. Carbon cost to be there. The costs of like the data center so the family has to have money, and if you don't have the money, then you're just like in limbo and. Like what does that say about morality? If not everybody has, the has the right to live there. So like hearing it as we're describing it, if you're not into that kind of thing, I can see you going. Oh Jesus heavy. MELWORK. Headdresses. Definitely, definitely in it. But. It's a comedy is a comedy drama with this element and I think comedy is the best way to portray these premises, because while you might say, some might claim it to be a disservice to the topic matter subject matter. I say it makes it easier to digest. Yes, bring in, you can laugh, and then you can think it's like a black. Mirror as much as I love that, and it's very very good I have to be. Ready for it you know like. My bike, I have to be prepared, but it's going to be wrapped up in a comedy drama. Then then I can do that. Like Amanda, some of those plotlines from black ear, move on with a humorous spin, and begun most of most of them, no matter of a couple of them. Someone! Bag is the is all about the writer they I. Think they all could be. The question is how well land, but they could be written a comedy since the question is what we're. Going to work for them, you're now. Let's get back to this hammer time. This is an odd episode, so we're starting with you and I'm I'm curious as to what tracks I'm I'm sure there's some tracks sparked off the idea for Hammerton my right. No actually. This sparked in fact one of them which I will get to you later well I'll talk about it when I get the but this first one is asking you know what? This was the first track they came to mind when all the topic. Just because I like the game and I was playing it back then not playing anymore, and that game is Edward crossing new horizon really now. I gave that bad boy up though I still have a whole Atma hearts hang onto. It swatted sold it, but I should have sold it when I had the chance because we're like thirty bucks on the market. and. But PRAC-? Title is called Ten am, and it was composed by cosmic to Tuck. Welcome back. You're listening to ten am from the game. Animal Crossing New Horizons on the Nintendo switch composed by Kozumi Taco. I don't particularly believe it plays at ten am because I hear it more often than that him, but that's what is called. I'm sticking to it. I love this truck. It sounds so. Funky, it's just it's not so full. It's got so much soul like a really specific like. Like groove you know is music you can do chores to with is funny because of what you're doing in the game to chores chores, but that music is a good way to kind of keep your moving and flowing to it. But why does it actually fit this topic well? Yeah, tell me from this telling you. How does how does doing chores and animal crossing? Well, it's only start right now right now. You'll get. Hurt. An animal, crossing new horizons they decided to add a new mechanic to the game. That mechanic, being diy construction, so you can build a build it yourself to bench in the can get to the desk, and you can construct things with things a lot of things, and you do so by getting down to business 'cause every time you pick ingredients and stuff and youtube to build the episode animated when you're like you're hammering sawing. You're getting out of the business and then you built the product. Funny in his own right, because when the game I got announced, and now we have diy, you could build things that sounds pretty cool. You could build stuff, but then it clicks for me after I had the game, which is it just extends the game because now you have to get materials to create the stuff that you used to buy a store right so. Makes everything. Take longer. Now your tools breaks had to get the parts to build them. Again is just getting a new tool to build the tool. It's so weird, but it works for people because animal crossing has pulled some of the largest switch game clocks I have ever seen. From people who otherwise blow play games, and while I have heard people say. Oh it's only like this. Because because the back dabs lockdown so I had nothing else to do with play Animal I. Beg to differ I. Feel like if you weren't lot Bam. You just be squeezing any wherever you could. Happen later. But ultimately you were going to put this much time in animal crossing, because it had you, but with his hooks hooked you right and. Hooked me to like if I look at my switch in order by Adna, based on number of hours played animal. Crossing is my second most played game on the system behind pokemon silver. And as a person who tells you okay, animal crossing the game. We do chores for hours. I'm not coming from a place of hate again. Second most played game on the console. I only like five hundred games. This is the second most played. It's just I. Feel like you did what you were set out to do. And you're okay. That's great as great. And what happened was like I came this close to selling it towards the last of too because. I was running a promo. Get Bonus Credit, or which would've put me like sixty or sixty five percent of the total value back for the game. Two three months as a pretty decent return on my brother, but. I couldn't part with it I just. I had trouble letting go despite the fact that I don't know ever GonNa. Plating you because now they issue with animal crossing is is built around the idea that you go in every day and say hi to your neighbors do yet. Remove weeds from the ground. Shake down trees all this stuff, but when you're gone for time, weeds grow Trent you. Town becomes to shovel roaches. Show up your townsfolk. Get angry at you for being gone for too long. They literally say where were you? We'd been missing you. You ever feel like. We created the Tamagotchi. And then. Like people as a people we created the Tamagotchi and then we never got past that look like we never like. We can be never got over the the idea that you wanted to care for something digital. Oh! It's funny. You say that because I am also Roy. Well guess we're recording now. Neck on Tuesday the day before this episode comes out and Massey reviewing a game. That is literally. It's a dungeon crawling RPG dungeon, crawling roll like RPG, but the hook is that you're to post apocalyptic environment, which in this present day might be tougher to stomach. A Hook on this game is that you're a robot? whose comes across like the last human? Also foot the by the illness that took out humanity. So you are trying to raise this human and keep them safe and a toxic environment. How do you do that? You built a terrarium. House the human any. How do you track the human statistics and current situation? You come across a Tomah Gottschee. I am neither making that up the pet nanny, but as lilly atomic achy, which then repurpose. To function but the track the human. So you remember where you play Tamagotchi and had a little bit. Disney upper left corner like yes, how hungry! It is! uh-huh crap at poop. Poop turds always thing on the screen. It does all of it is literally atomic ci in the lower left corner of the screen that tracks the humans brought. It's ridiculous, but it works. It legit really works I see. People like the idea of raising digital things. I don't understand this humans are weird. You might say might be some. I'm not big on kids and stuff like that or pets. Whatever doesn't matter. Does it. Matter digital raising Sims transcend all that. People like to raise digital things. Poke abide. Animal people. I didn't. Think. It's a little deeper than that where it's like people, they they. They WanNa have something more to care for, and so they just create it. Generally that's what it is. It works so let's I. Want to continue to talk about something a little existential. Because we can't have a an episode about hammers without talking about one specific game. And his call getting over it. With is not whack-a-mole with Bennett Fati. Dino getting over it now, but I'm going to ask you about when we come back yet or heard of this, so this is the main theme it plays throughout the game as a few other tracks on place throughout the game and all we know is that it's composed, or it's composed by the group ease Jamie Jams, which I believe is like a production house. That produces maybe just. series of music. That is licensed, free, four, other and other projects. Oh come at the company that did the music for Laura. Thunder are lilo terrible graphic. Maybe maybe I was really hard Jeez Music Cheesy, but this is eased Jamie jams I couldn't exactly find. who was involved with that? Maybe someone can help with that, but this track is called soul and mind I'm picking this on first because it kind of. Goes along with this. This animal crossing track pretty well, so it was pretty jazzy. Harry Solan mind from getting over it with Bennett Fati For. Bird. Food! That was soul in mind from ease Jamie. Jams from the game getting over it with Bennett Body. You can find that on PC. So Cornell Bennett body was the creator of the game crop, and he is a game designer who is obsessed with difficult games. Is probably the king of the King of funny, but like eventually you start to get kind of obsessed doing well so getting over. It is kind of a play on words right, so you are a man. Inside of a coldren wait wait wait wait wait. I'm I'm a May. You Are you I'm? WAIT WAIT WAIT! I'm I'm mean yeah. So so you don't have legs. You're just your your upper torso sitting out of the culture, and you have a giant hammer on a stick. And all you can do is swinging around. It hoped to propel yourself forward over this mountains. You're trying to get the hammer through, but you're throwing yourself. Yeah, you're. It's like you're grabbing grappling onto it, and then in an arc, and then sort of like pulling yourself around, but the the physics are unforgiving. The obstacles are constantly in the way. One slight move will throw you back. And you will lose hours of progress. There's checkpoints points. There's no state games anytime. You make significant loss of Progress Bennett body actually has a voiceover and tells you just quotes about that. You should up about how life is meaningless. About how it's okay to stop, so it's all about getting over that feeling in trying to get to the ad and he writes on his website. Getting over it with Bennett fighting I created this game for certain kind of person to hurt them period. That Qantas like those games are free. I hope I wouldn't pay I. Forgot Getting I didn't look it up. During the song. Five dollars about paying five bucks for that gives the Games on steam. It's five bucks, but crop other stuff is is like the free old school Flash Games they've all been translated html five, but not this one. This. This one really caused quite a stir about three years ago because. It's just it's. It's enraging, but I think that. I think you share some of this. Some of this ethos in gaming that you like the challenge because overcoming that challenge. Makes it all worth it. That is very true though I will say this as an addendum to that statement. If the game itself is not fun despite the challenge beating you down. It still feels like a waste of time and I haven't played this, so I don't know if you have to. Find it a waste of time. That's the killer. Brutally was that game like? Base, the Massacre Games are using platformer base is artists. Brutally difficult. I WanNa be the guy that kind of stuff but this. Kind of. Player, who only believes in challenge for the sake of having a challenge. And there's something to that like I. Am with it, and also not with it at the same time. I need to have a really clean. Like game loop that feels kind of like progression, but still feels good like I could play. Enter the gun for hours. Now make any progress. But like could still giving me something different every time I play. This game is not the scheme has just. You spent I spent four hours. made it very very far. Maybe you're even close to the end you make one false move, and you're nearly back at the beginning, but that's why a lot of like present day rogue likes which entered a dungeon Internet, a gun is one such game. While allow those games work because what they do, is they give you the same general sense of you know I. May I play for forty minutes? Got Your bottom and fail. Over again with a loop, the doing that not just the loop. It's what they do with the loop, so you play gun Jin run through. You might find those little like those weird chips like those green chips that you can take back to the hub to buy new things that could show up in the actual dungeons proper. You might find a guy that you can then Alaka A. Utility in the main hub. There's always something small that you can bring back. That makes you feel like you progress even the little. Despite the fact that for the game proper. You still have to go back to the start, but it's not quite the start. The game is describing earlier. This a rogue like but the thing that changes it makes a little bit better than ever you leave or die. You go back to the main hub, but as you're constructing furniture for the good for the girl or something like that every time you build something small stat bunk to your. or You can create things that make the change the potential change, the probability of stuff appearing in the dungeons so ultimately. Yeah, you're doing things that can affect the game. You can only do those right by failing. The game loop it it's it's saying that starting over from the beginning is is what? Makes it feel like progress? Still this game's trips all that away and says No. There is something it just you hit. Starting at just rots until you decide to stop. There apparently. There isn't ending to it, and then it asks you at the very end if you're if you're streaming. And if you say you're not, it actually takes you to a chat room, a live chat room with other people that have completed the game. A private space other people that have finished it. To people to share yet, right? There's like no one there, but anyway. That's what those interesting to learn more about this game I really liked the chill with jazz felt. Felt right, you know. I believe I agree. Yeah, so, what's your? What's your next track? Well, here's a track. Ask a lot more light. In customer game. Where the lupus ozone. Good! Oh yes. Opposite of getting over I'm sure there's a lot. This is job tune five. The game fantasy life for the INTENDO DS and is composed by Nobuo. Frankly. Think. Track. Record. I. Welcome back you're listening to job. Tuned five from the game. Fancy light on a Nintendo DS composed by Nobuo as you hit, it might be. Three D. S. actually. I'm sorry. Noble? We matsen. Fantasy life. Is a game that consumed my life my life. For a very interesting period of time. I was obsessed with. A mad doe. Sh as the currency of the game is. across a variety of jobs game works as you play a fancy world designed by level five. and. I don't remember the specifics of why you do this, but you take on a variety of different professions like actual job proficient. And you take on quests within the game's world to become best in that profession. And there's like fifteen different jobs in the game all. For the most most of them are normal jobs, but some of them are like actual like RPG jobs like a wizard fighters. There's also chef. Taylor blacksmith fishermen. Not Far, but chemist is chemist. Bunch of different jobs. And as you play the game digitally like normal questing stuff, you play enemies and use a special attack and all that stuff. You also had performed the actual job for the the classic. They all kind of run around the same many game concept where you're at a table. And there's like three different stations. Man and each station require the different type of button com press style might be rotating, stick or mash the button quickly or keeping a dial within a certain range or something like that, and you have to go through this for a certain period of time until you're dumped building the thing you're trying to make, and of course depending on how you do, the quality of the product in your chart makes up both equipping for yourself, giving to France of making use it, and then selling property or giving it to customers. All, the music you're playing. Music, you're playing from games that just sound like work. And that's the funny thing about this game. This unlike animal crossing for me anyway. Felt in gauging like it did the thing that I was tossing did. Whatever you made stuff? It led towards something else so. If, the Taylor I can construct backpack. When I make the backpack. It increases my storage space and I want to build it. To use it. Not to just throw them. Floors had built that thing. What's next. Admit there are certain things you will build because you know part of your catalog, and you'll have a better source, and it's never going to build seven wax with one of my favorite blacksmith, and the Taylor and the chef. Jobs in the game. You'll build stuff that you don't need because you privately better at that. When, but you still want to fill up your catalog seeking class your character, you can get to the Max level, class. So you'll still do the job despite not using the product. But it's fun. Especially when the right job to think there's like relaxing job to which is. Now you're building good stuff you got this. World's like holy crap. You're going to spill. Something and I remember what it is now it's it's called. The infernal Gallop and the computers need composers name as a shock. And it is the can't cancel dad. I can hear Summit Yeh. Can here in the Stanford. ME money get up and move. Its. Because since the game has you moving back and forth trying to beat the clock to build this product? You're moving and your Komo. Hit April Mash Smash. It's it's it gets you. It's so it's such a fun game. I maxed out three of the job. I really you contentedly. Max on every, but what I did over one hundred hours, don't Gosh. Yes, it! was that good at. The plant multi with a couple of friends in the mail taper off, but I kept going okay. Here's a here's a game, right? That is so on the news. I don't know if you know about it because it reminds me a lot of com- Berry going on. It's called in Harry. Hamlin Harry I do actually. Ugly any s cover. Your Hammer and I want to say look it up when you play the track, but I wanNA say hammer and hero is a sequel to handwritten Harry so this there's a bunch of them in Japan. Is a short series of these. Games are so weird. It's a platformer and you have a giant Hammer. Your construction worker your Dj. You're a diver. All sorts of weird things, but in this one. This is the game boy version. It's called Hamrin Harry the Ghost Building Company. where Hammer and Harry's friend or girlfriend, or some other characters kidnapped by ghosts who are also construction workers. Balloons I listened I, listened to a lot of the Hammer Harry like arcade music and the music and it's it's good. The gameboy music is incredible. Like I have not heard good gameboy music like this awhile, it classic. Music, this is all composed by e Cuckoo, me Maury, and this is track number one from hammer and Harry the ghost building company. You're listening to track number one game, Hammer and Harry Ghost, building company. This is composed by Echo Maury. For the Gameboy and I just learned something about this. What's up? So apparently. This was this was made by the same Comey Mate Ninja Baseball Batman. Cameo posters of hammer and Harry game. They're both from the company developed by the company Iran I R E M. It's very weird. It's very Japanese takes place and kind of like a weird fantasy type world that. Is is is Japan small Japanese town. With weird ghost goes. Bad guys and you hit them with a giant Hammer, and you can collect bigger hammers, and you use the hammer to like swing against like like balls on chains and stuff to kind of move things around. It looks like part like there's part puzzle platforming to visits, really interesting the arcade version. Anyway any s version they really scaled back the graphics and made it just sort of like a really basic. Platformer, not a whole lot of the extra stuff yard. Eight had the Gameboy version is still scaled back, but the graphics look incredible like there's so much better than that. Yes, the looks closer to the realized. Our Arts of the Arcade version. So that's really cool, and this music is excellent like it really takes advantage of the Stereo of as little sound effects. They're using as percussion. That's going left and right. It's really interesting. So I wanted to. Share that because it's just hammer and Harry. He's running around giant. Carpenter but he can be so much more. Yeah, if this is. If anyone is going to have hammer time, hammer and Harry is the hammer time literal hammer time he's. He's right there with you, I mentioned earlier by a few Seo type things like I want to experience. This is atlas. Do Release the final game in the in the franchise isn't GonNa America for the PSP. This is called Hammer Hero. It's available. You can play. On the PS P That is interesting that they want to revive this. This'll this'll character. Eight Games. Surprised he's not in smash brothers. Just too many cares that there should be smash brothers again is probably the back of that list I would love to. Go Him on. Will be good. I'll be happy to. Be. Going even better if you could switch between busy bismarck. Episode of that of characters. We would like a fighting game or Their you write it down. Shipping smashed right down in the list. Despite the fact that smash has like one hundred characters now, these are still should be smashed. I did similar to another topic. I haven't lost games. We would like to see come back. Ours the I feel like those are some of the more fun does allow thousand hammering. Harry's already up there, so we got that covered. All Right? What's your? What's your next track? So. This one is some prising fine, but it won't get to the dialogue by having the second. Introduce itself game. itself is called. Dale Moss. And it's track title is captain, Malibu's theme and is composed Baio, Chiro coming. Welcome back. You're listening to Captain morale-boosting from the game weapons shop. What's? Come for the Nintendo three DS components Baio Chiro Comic on fact about this game actually is the fact that I bought it when it originally came out in two thousand fourteen men, and forgotten owned it, and then was gonNA choose tracks for the episode and it was like Oh. Here's a game involving a blacksmith. Wait a man in the street. Leaving million I went to my three Ds gone through. It was Oh only play. So Pie booted up for the first time. In twenty twenty display owner gets to the for. My life with video games, but it's Ashley Still Kind of enjoyable at fun time playing. It's very different. From what games usually are a actually forging weapons? Yes or playing? The role of a blacksmith runs a shop or out of the shop owner of a blast Smith. and. You are working under. The tutelage of the blacksmith is supposed to be making the weapons in shop and he ain't doing me. So what happens is the time kind of progresses. In real time. There's no ashes clock on. A day-night cycle in the upper right corner, but for the most part times progressing people were coming into the shop both MTC, characters and actual like. Hero characters that would be an RPG. They're all coming your shop to buy weapons to go on adventure. With the ultimate goal, being that one of them is going to eventually have to fight the evil Lord when he's resurrected in defeat him. When? They do it by having great merchandise soul to them by great blacksmith, and you have to ask you craft. Weapons were infused the weapons with elemental properties, and then give them weapons befitting their stats and preferences, so you might come across like a little like A. Tiny, like girl who like his group with karate bladed weapons. You give her a sigh, because she's better able to handle that you could give sword, which is also good for slash damage, but in the end she won't be able to properly go on an adventure, and she'll die or she'll lose out. They tell us they just lose and they come back or as. NBC's definitely dom okay. And if that happens, you don't get your weapon. BET because they're only renting the weapons from you. Venture. Rental. Renting your weapons and the garnered adventure they bring the weapon back. They pay you for the weapon. And then you can really lend it out to another customer, but then you have to pass the weapon and get it back up to snuff so as I see effective again reminds that one board game. I like a lot you own. Hero, Bars like I have like three games now that involve slipping weapons including one. We've never play called MANAFORT. When you're! You're in shop and you're selling weapons to bargain bargain, bargain quest. Yeah, and. Because we played that one I love that game, but it's. Like. You're not concerned about how well? The players are going to do how well the characters are going to be fighting. The Monster you care about is selling as much crap as you can. Over funny thing is like colonel, Barton, question. This game has an element boss more so you WANNA care because. Pardon quite well, but this game you want them to succeed because you want to get your stuff back, so you don't have to spend the money to recruit new gear and you can lend to customers that come in because eventually you know overflow customers. You've got to control the flow. Barden quest though it totally varies on the customer like. That one customer, who is like the ARISTOCRAT who was like? Wash with money. Yeah, what? He has terrible stats and he's like. No no reason going out there fighting a monster, but he's got tons of money, so you're like. Yes. I'm basically like sell them as much as you can. On his first visit because you know, he's going to die when you. Feel, but there's other characters that they might give you more benefits if they come back. She's worth getting them out there. Satan comeback and spend more money, so those are. Usually comes back to it's that classic thing and like some games where you're like you're winning. You know that you're winning. So you're trying to force the end game condition, so you're having your trying to help. The the characters beat the monsters. He can get to the end faster because you know that you're already ahead. That's a good strategy. I'm this forty called. Me To honestly I'm getting to that point where I might try. To Go. See Mark this week even. Amass want wherever I need to play something for a Luma crap. Yeah thinking I'm thinking. I was thinking I've been thinking about that, but we just haven't had a lot of energy. Recently too hot because. It's probably going to be outside, so it needs to be a cooler time. I agree. Written Sauna days all right, so you know I'm I'm GONNA I'm. GonNa go into my my final track. Is from the game so caliber? And this is another character that wields a massive camera. This is the theme of Astor off. And Lizard Man. And Lizard me. But definitely asked her off as the guy that we're talking about. This is called bread from the gap. You're back. You're listening to red from the gap from the game soul caliber. This is the theme of Astor Ross. And visited man and Lizard Me The name of the show. You can't just like cut it short. Then Liz. Share State. No asked her out. He's he has a roommate is what it is. Composed by Yoshihiko Yano find this near cade and it was on the dreamcast I think it was also on the playstation two. I went so caliber I came out I was always a to D fighter guy but I got into this game pretty hard core just because the competitive nature of the is really interesting to me. Every the. I felt like Three D. Games up to this point weren't they didn't feel fair. You know they're just kind of random. But. To me anyway, that's how it felt this game. It felt like the strategy involves so interesting, and they're all the characters, and all the different fighting styles was so cool. Yeah I just use so petitjean jumped. Slash the whole time I get lucky, so astronaut was really popular because he was really big, heavy hidden character who was kind of easy to play, was he the Boston, the first one. I think so yeah, so there's like a cult in the game. Or in the in the Lore of the game, and they create a gallon. Of Astor off to go out and locate the soul edge, the the fabled weapon that gives them ultimate power. You know well whatever you know finding finding. Kim Stories Go. But they keep bringing back. And eventually he I think he gained sense, and he wants the blade to consume it so that he can be all powerful, but. He wants to eat disorder. I, don't remember it Lizard Man I. Don't remember Lizard Man at all. But Astros has definitely carried through the series from iterating iteration. Because this is terrifying, he's huge half of one half of this giant thing as a hammer, the other half giant axe. Years Cool. He is really really cool and the music. You can tell that those strings are synthesized. But it works really well like Amer. Hero, he's not. He's not the hammering hero no. He need him hammering. Harry should have been fighting. ASTROTURF or maybe astor off hammering Harry. Right he could have been the sole caliber to place playstation representative. We missed. They missed the boat in this, and then so so hammered Harry dies and a Colt who is craving the soul edge. Revive Hammering Harry to be there Ghalem as astro. Astro hairy. That's how rough yeah. But then you fast. He wants to go back to this smashing and doing construction works. Of gives the whole thing. I'm like screw this. The astor astor off the IRA so it doesn't pay the bills I can get back to work. The entire mission. So they kidnap his girlfriend, and then he has to. Do it anyway. So get got honorable honorable mention to a classic game. It's not a classic game, but it's made to look like a classic game and that is fixed Felix. Oh. Yeah frigging record, yeah I actually I. Looked up hammering. Harry I was like Oh. That's right. Fix it Felix. A hammer ran around. The ever made official. Fix It. Felix game did the in private like a promo like. They did it was like. Yes. I'm real small like that like. I think they did one for the little candy. RUSH WHATEVER SUGAR RUSH! Racing Game Cart Racer which is funny, because that game is literally Mario, it is. It is absolutely just Mario. Kart Arcade. I guess thinking about fix it. Felix is also partly It's like a combination of crazy climber and donkey Kong. Yeah Yeah, absolutely! Definitely Donkey Kong definitely. All right I'M GONNA turn this terrifying down and we're going to get into the bodus route bonus round. The bonus round is where we play covers and remixes an arrangements on our theme. Which did you find? That fits our theme. Well, speaking of donkey, Kong, of course I had to pick the hammer theme from the Oh. The little og hammer theme is the hammer theme from dot, com, really or jump man as it were So, what does this track? It is the eight bit upgrade to the hammer thing. For the Game Dog Co.. Composed or remixing arranged by zero. With an axe because that's how cool kids do. That was my old DJ name as right as handle DD DDR name to. I ran into that recently. I see that Oh. I saw some old scores. I have my Alma tag on it. I was like okay. That's right. Proud about that. took. Food. I love that track would. It loops, but it doesn't matter loops in a way that rule. It's really good. I really liked that I loved it. It's again it's. Eight bit upgrade to the hammer theme from Donkey Kong composed or arranged by zero, and for those who are familiar, one hundred percent, while you should be now because you heard it at the beginning of the track, but. The Hammer theme is a very very fast and very short minimal loop. And this guy took that loop and turn it into two minutes of excellence gets. I loved it. I listened to a multiple times as I found it. And hopefully you like to. The artist's name. The Arranger is Edmund Zero where Edmund Zero. And mainly a lot of youtube in twitch playing Tekken. and some he. Some wrapped into some lyrics of his own, so my name is donkey Kong in God but I mean clearly he's got to get back attractive. Hasn't it really pushed anything for family tracker like this in about eight or nine years? So maybe he was just sort of dabbling in it, but I like this. I really enjoyed this. This is dabbling holy yes. All right so. Going back to characters, giant hammers. We gotta talk about any rose from. Yes, bench fire. As, right replan my sweet passion. The theme of Amy rose from Sonic adventure for the dreamcast. This is by Nikki Grigoris. Venture. Took lucky. Myself. Dan, feelings up. Payment. Thanks. Don't worry. Awesome free to do what? Awesome. took. season. Two. Take. We're back. That was my. Passion the theme of Ambrose Pro side Kid venture for the Sega dreamcast, and that was by Nikki Grigorov. I asked he never to the name of that I only. Fire by down the first thing that pops in like in a game while you're playing it, but man music music of Sonic. Adventures is so over the top. So it's it's a little much, but I love the based on track. That's just so so funky. It's really hard finding. REMIXES? And other anything else related to the theme of Amy Rose Online, because you're always going to end up with sonic fan fiction. Or music videos of like kiss from a rose by seal, but with like. But like edited with Sonic and Amy and maybe shadow hedgehog it's. That's also a little much, you know. I remake your workforce. I respect that that's what they're into, but it's not what I'm looking for, and there's so much of it out there that it's just destroy the Sonic Seo. Yeah Michigan accomplish. That was the goal. For them right? For more information on the sonic part of our show Goto rhythm and PIXELS DOT COM, we have links to the artist's bank camps and sound clouds, and were you can buy the music and support artists. Alright thanks for joining us on Episode Twenty Three Dash of Rhythm in pixels. Hammer time. Hammer time stop. We got sledge hammers. With Peter Gabriel we have ball pene hammers. I think it's helping hammers. I'm going to look that up. That doesn't sound right. sledgehammers Hammer Hammers if C. Hammer. DMC, Hammer's yeah bullpen hammer. Yeah, OKAY COOL! mallets. Cudgels Gosh. That's my favorite one so far. Jobs. Yeah, so, if you just like the, send us your favorite types of hammers We will absolutely play them on the show. Pick ax restaurant across my. What was getting over it with Bennett, said giant pickaxe. Especial honorable mention goes to the rock climbing hammers of the ice climbers. Were lost. The now's the time until smash. Brothers resurrected them, yeah! Whatever date failure had the one game on ESPN all of a sudden narrow popo back. People, using like wildfire people love nine Popo which is. She's is the pope didn't think people like. Yeah Right. Ananta. Police? Grapes. The granny police. Pretty crazy topic. We're going to have some more think this whole month is GonNa be some wacky topics. Yeah. I think we're just GONNA, do only wacky topics for this. Come up with more of them. Think outside the box. There are some guests we're going. GonNa have soon as well. Some ones that you've been talking to. I think we have to get back in touch with some other ones that have been suggested in our facebook group rhythm in pixels chat that we need to reach out to and kind of coordinate that so. Yeah. Maybe now's a great time for maybe now's not a great time for it I. Don't know. Find out we'll find out. A little hint to is. A certain someone posted Karaoke in the wrong group. This? A little little flavor of. It was pretty rats, so it made. It made me feel nostalgic for some more so. You might get back to that, but. If you have any suggestions for the show any topics. Music tracks I WANNA say hello. 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Especial de Halloween 2020 - Gugacast - S05E42

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Especial de Halloween 2020 - Gugacast - S05E42

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Shazam Early Screenings: Do Previews Really Build Buzz? - Movie Talk

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Shazam Early Screenings: Do Previews Really Build Buzz? - Movie Talk

"Thank you. For listening to this podcast one production by our team with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing and comes in three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size import ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beach without weighing you down by our team caffeine from green tea. Leaps released your natural side from the makers of five hour energy. For more information, visit five hour, energy dot com. Hello, everyone Perry here to let you know that movie talk is brought to you by DC universe. The first all DC platform for us DC fans where you can binge. The new and highly touted original series titans or jump into the beloved yet bizarre doom patrol with new episodes dropping weekly. Also, check out the thousands of comics just added, including more recent titles and complete storylines. Join a DC universe. Dot com. Five hour teen with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing and comes in three amazing flavors was zero sugar and four calories. It fits your life with its compact size import ability. It goes where you go to the campsite, the hiking trail the beach without weighing you down by our T caffeine from green tea. Leaps released your natural side from the makers of five hour energy. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Hello. Hello today. We've got a new director joining the MC you on top of that some of you out there kency's Zam early. And there is a brand new trailer for the movie longshot. It is a red band trailer. Things are gonna get intense. Inappropriate all the stuff you would expect from the suffragan movie that is some of our show today. But right now, a very important thing has to happen. Dennis welcome. I see you every day. You're wonderful. I'm happy to be here with you. Thank you for pretty sure, you know, what we're building up towards right now. Yes. I'm so happy to see you. I don't think I've ever been on this desk with you before. Or have we done like one show before maybe we did maybe like a review for an x men film or something maybe something like that? Like, whatever agreement. I didn't feel so good. I miss you. I miss you. I think everybody out there. Mrs you to my Sabih back. So before we even jump into our number one story for the day. We all want to know what you've been up to because you're out in the world. You're busy making movies. So the latest one funny you should ask. I'm actually like two days away from calling picture lock. It's been a two year endeavor. Which I'm learning with documentaries is not that long. But when you're inside it feels like he turn ity. So I produced this and co-directed this. So this will be my direct twirl debut. And yeah, it's it's been a crazy journey. I do do note. It's about I know you do I know I know the one you produced I know what that one. Yeah. So this basically it's called equal playing field. And we took thirty. Female soccer players from twenty four different countries to summit mount Kilimanjaro and descend to the Dead Sea in Jordan and play the highest and lowest games ever played. So we sat to Guinness world records, and it's an adventure. And it's just it's a really beautiful inspiring film. I'm really proud of it. But very tired. I can imagine. I'm sure all the hard work is going to be worth it. I can't wait until we can see you. Thank you definitely will be getting an invite guys. I features director is really a big deal. So just keep that in the back of your mind. No pressure. No. It's really a good thing. It's in every single time. I cover a movie that's a first feature for director. It just you know, blows my mind thinking how difficult it is to get a feature film. Whether we're talking narrative or documentary off the ground and actually make it happen. So the fact that you saw through I can't applaud you enough. And there have been many obstacles in my way. If I didn't have such intense passion for the subject matter, and for these women that are just brilliant and need their stories told I would have sometimes I question this life. I chose like I'm crazy. It's so it's so hard to get films made. But if you really believe in it, and you know, are not afraid to go to the end, no matter what's throwing your way, you're going to have something you're really proud of at the end assume you're seeing some films that are inspiring you right now too. So we have two questions for you. We want to know what is your favorite movie of twenty nine thousand nine so far. And then what is the one? You're looking forward to the most in the next few months. Yes. So I would say I've definitely been like head down in the last few weeks slash months of this. Film, which has been all consuming. So I'm a little less up to date than usual. And I feel like if I'm not an theater like once a week. I start feeling awkward and need my fix. So I'm starting to catch up slowly saw captain marvel. I'm doing my best. I would say the farewell was my favorite of the year, which I saw at Sundance Lulu ING direct today. Aquafina it's her breakout role. She is funny, it's filled with heart. It's nuanced. It's sad. It's just it's a family story. And it's got a lot of depth. And I saw I think twenty films again, I always lose track. But it was the number one by law for both elation. I it's still up. There is one of my favorites. That is definitely when everyone has to look out for what's one of the one JIRA, mostly converted to you know. I mean, there's a lot of good ones coming out. But when Scorsese and Tarantino films coming out, they're always going to be at the top of my list. They both have such visual visceral electric filmmaking styles. Definitely my favorite Irishman and Hollywood. So yes, I did. I have a feeling we all share the excitement for those two. I know Dennis for sure. Another project. We're really excited about is the first story of the day. So news broke on the Hollywood reporter that destined. Daniel Cretin has signed on to direct Marvel's Shanxi movie. Which will Mark the studios very first superhero film with an Asian lead? So word of this project for surface back in September along with the news that marvel was going to fasttrack it, and they also tapped at that point writers penned the screenplay at that time. It was reported that marvel was looking towards Black Panther a little bit of a guide and a model just in terms of hiring Asian or or an Asian American director to helm this one other directors that were in the running included Justin tipping, Alan Yang and Deborah Chow. But of course, Cretin is the one that landed this gig. So from this point on marvel is looking to assemble a largely Asian American and Asian cast for the film. So hopefully, we get a lot more news on this very soon. But right now focusing on the director, Amy rose, what do you think? About destined getting this gig. I think it's a great choice short-term twelve most people didn't really know about Brielle arson before the room, but this was the little gem, and there's kind of something around the internet floating around that like this was like the magic well short term twelve because everyone who was in this movie, this has been a launch pad for a lot of success, and it's just such a talented cast, and he's an amazing director. And like it's about time. I feel like a rook a broken record talking about representation being so important in media. But it really is. And you know, I'm finally pursuing my dream of directing. But I didn't have a lot of role models growing up and that right there because there were probably ten I could count on my fingers female directors. And it's the same thing with having an all Asian cast Asian director with this property who's going to know the property better. So think it's a great choice. He has a lot of talent. And I'm glad that marvel and Holywood is still slow to change. But I'm glad that they are finally showing a little bit more diversity and returned twelve is a but nominee. And I feel like when it came out, which I believe was in twenty thirteen. Yes, I think it was the summer of two thousand thirteen I feel like not enough people at seen it at that point. Because that's the movie that I think should have gotten real are sent her first Academy Award nation. And it's like, you're right. When you go through that cast because it was it was trending on Twitter today. I got so excited, of course. Now, we have him signing onto ACTA marvel movie. There's Bree Larssen Rami Malik Keith Stanfield TD ver. Who get ready for that? When she's going to blow up a book smart real soon. If you haven't already seen her and a bunch of things, and basically short-term twelve gives me all the hope in the world. The only thing that I in my conversations about him signing onto this movie. That makes anybody out there concerned whatsoever is the glass castle. I happen to have liked the glass castle more than most that was a very ambitious story to tell just in terms of how the basically tell the story of that family. It's not necessarily linear. I think he just might have bitten off a little more than he could chew with something like that. But just because you have one that doesn't keep the bar is high as the one you had before doesn't mean you can't crush it all over again with a brand new movie here, and especially when you have the guidance of someone like Kevin Feige, I feel like he is in very good shape with this one. And I'm just happy to see him get a big big gig here because that's really something else. Dennis hayfield about those. Yeah. I mean the. The list of the directors that they were possibly going to hire. I knew his name and also knew Alan Yang who was a writer on parks and recreation. You also co created master up nine with disease in sorry. He also directed that. I think Amazon show called forever, but that's more than the comedy round. Where you see with Destin he has drawn drama chops. And I think that's where he also has a lot of connections. I mean side connections with with marvel already, obviously. Bree Larson who plays kept their marvel right now, she he's working on a movie with Brie, larceny, and Michael Jordan who is in Black Panther. And he also was working with the rank Kugler on TV series. So there's all these like connection. So it kind of makes sense. Yeah. The question now is clearly he knows what he's doing when it comes to more dramatic material, which I think is great because perhaps. The sign that put the focus on character before big actions pieces, which I think can serve big action set pieces very well. But especially considering what marvel has been doing lately. Just in terms of like, I don't know just throwing out an example guardians dipping into comedy more than any marvel movie had done before captain marvel embracing the nineties action vibe is there any genre or sub genre? You guys are hoping that destined gets to tap into for this particular installment of the. Do not so much. I would say John room. But I would actually like him to go more serious with it. We're captain marvel. I liked it. I don't know if I loved it. And I enjoyed it. But it was more towards what you're talking about. Like, the guardians of the galaxy vibe that Thor ragnarok vibe where I could have done with a little more serious drama, and I'm hope that he this lean more towards like not Black Panthers a serious drama. But you know, what? I mean, there's more drama in that versus something like captain America, captain marvel. Sorry. Yeah. I'm less familiar with this property. So I don't really have any feel either direction. But I mean, I think by now marvel has proven they know what they're doing same. I didn't love captain marvel. I enjoyed it. But it by no means was a mess. You know, I feel like they should deserve our confidence by now. And I'm just I'm happy to see especially property that I am less familiar with. And he is really good at character. And that's why I feel like something like this. We'll shine and not get. So swept up into the theatrics of it still to feel really grounded, those are my favorite superhero films that still feel grounded but larger the life at the same time, and it's a very delicate dance ache, obviously can be done. It's been done a lot. I'm right there with you. I have a lot of faith in this particular movie. But the other exciting angled to the story is basically what will is doing in terms of hiring directors who make smaller more low budget movies, giving them this gigantic property putting a huge spotlight on them. Then hopefully, the movie does well, and then that opens up the door for them to take on more daring projects that they might not have had access to before so close allies right there. Yeah. That's another great example and also with captain marvel with Anna Boden and Ryan flex things for them. I mean, Ryan Kugler was already cruising along but Black Panther pushed him up to a whole different level. Yeah. This franchise is bringing good things to good directors. And I continue to applaud that. And I hope the same is going to happen here. All right next story. We're sticking in the superhero Rome because she's Zam it's official release date is April fifth. But if you're fandango VIP member you're going to get the opportunity to see the movie early. So what's happening is fandango is partnering with Warner Brothers, and they're going to be showing Zam on March twenty third at twelve hundred theaters that is precisely two weeks before the release. So the big question here. Dennis I'll give it to you. I is will these Zam early? Screenings of fact, captain Marvel's legs at the box office at all. Oh, man. It's it's possible. Just because you know, as soon as one movie comes into the picture people for like, you'll see the drop of alita when captain marvel came out, right people's attention spans, get changed. But I do think doing these type of previews, especially for a movie, you're very very confident in that, you know, that will create a lot of good buzz and and garner a lot more attention. I think is a positive thing. So even though that's the question. I see swirling around out there quite a bit. Now as pertains to this particular story. I actually don't think it's going to make any difference at all as far as far as like an versus captain marvel. We're only talking about the one day twelve hundred theaters. I really don't think it's going to make that much of a dent especially because it's like we almost got a teeny tiny look at it last week. When captain marvel was released in the social media embargo for Zam was released and all these raves. Tweets. Mine included came out, and that didn't really do anything to captain marvel box office it still crushed it. I think this is a great situation where there is more than enough room for both of these properties to exist and survive within just about a month of each other in terms of when they're released at the box office, and I got a whole lot of faith more. So than anything, I look at this early buzz screening type thing, and it just seems like it is the hot new way to build additional buzz before your big release. So even though we're not necessarily talking about, oh, how much money is it gonna make on this day at these few theaters. And how is that going to affect its grand total? It's more. Let's say the movie makes and under throwing at a random number here. Let's say the movie makes three million dollars. Basically, you do the math figure out how many people that saw it. And you hope that those people continue to talk about it. They go back to see it again. And before you know, it you've spread the talk in the buzz beyond what it would have been before. So that's kind of what I'm focusing on more. So than anything so. Given that aim euros. Do you think that these early screenings are a good tactic to us, and they should continue to do something like this? I think I mean, it's definitely the word confidence. It doesn't still confidence to the viewer to the consumer to less. Oh, the critics who get the publicity screenings and all this early whatever. But it is saying, okay, they're kind of doubling down on this in a way. Is it going to dramatically change things? I don't think. So. But it goes, oh, that's interesting. Do we have something to do tonight? Let's go see it early. But I don't feel like this. I want to see this film. I haven't seen it yet. But it's not on my most anticipated anyway. So that's not going to have me jump to the theatre a little faster, but you know, buzz is currency and in the age that there's been a like a lot of retaliation against rotten, tomatoes, and the way that reviews are aggregated and all of that. And what we saw with captain marvel which is just crazy there. There is a different form of currency happening now than just straight critics reviews, and that's social and so if you can type inches AM. And see all these positive reviews dot is going to essence health the legs of this film. So I get it. But two weeks. I mean do a month. Do you something like it just feels like you said what two million dollars like sure in the grand scheme of this production budget? That's not a ton. I'd be curious to know, just whatever the data is. Because a lot of times when we talk about box office projections and things like that. There are paid services at these studios have access to to figure all that out and read all this data that basically tells them if you do this with his n x amount of days or weeks before you're released it's going to be the best possible. It will lead you to the best possible result. The other thing that comes to mind with something like this is if this model is successful. And also because we're constantly talking about ways to kind of spice up the theater going experience. So that basically movie theaters don't wind up going away, maybe not entirely but limiting themselves with the streaming services coming up, and we're constantly talking about, you know, all the whole debacle with movie pass and AMC. List, and whatever. So is this something where fandango could kind of, you know, get their foot in the door to a degree where if you're signing up for their service and only if you're signed up for their service, and you pay a certain amount you're gonna wind up getting access to movies early. Like, you know, what we were talking about it early Dennis you'd pitch something like twenty dollars extra and all of a sudden your first in line to get things like she Zam and whatever other property they line themselves with this is something where? Mm. Extremely against this idea of what they're doing right now is different. Because from what I know. Fandango VIP is is a service. It's a free service. It's like a rewards program. Right. And so they're just rewarding select few people who want to to purchase the movie tickets early for the same price that you would already and watch it early. And that's fine. I don't have an issue with that. It's when you get into because I you know. Anyone knows that we have a clatter video games. Ten o'clock collider games on on YouTube, and we cover this one topic of this big game called anthem that EA released and they had it where you could play the game early two weeks ahead of time. But you had to be part of their paid subscription service to purchase it, so your which is I think fourteen ninety nine. So that's where I'm against where it's like this thing where okay, you're paying extra in order to gain early access. That's where I have an issue where it's like, then I see more like whether it's the studios or in that case, it's a video game company. They're basically squeezing every last dollar out of the consumer because they're like, okay. Well, we know you want to watch vendors and game really really badly. I'll let you watch a month early. If you sign up for this thing that's going to cost you X amount of dollars that makes fandango smart in a way because they're trying to ensure that you. Funnel through their site to get the ticket. So by incentivizing saying it's free. You could see it two weeks early just by signing up for our free newsletter bubble subscription. That's actually kind of smart because I don't sorry to anyone from condense watching. But like, I don't get my tickets through fandango. So maybe this is a way of pulling in new people to purchase and funnel through them. So I mean two weeks early to someone for free for someone who loves us property might be enough to have them sign up. So I I'm starting to rethink my. I'm starting onto you vending. Also, I mean, the one of the bigger questions, I have in my mind right now is it, you know, like a theater like a program by program basis who's in control. Here is the studio is at the theater because when you think about it, obviously, all the theaters are trying to do is make more and more money, and that has just kind of led to the rise in ticket prices, which goes hand in hand with the rise of our premium experience when you go to the movies. So if let's say, you know, I mean switching gears and going over to AMC AMC, let's say had a package where you had to pay twenty dollars a month. And if you pay twenty dollars a month, you had the opportunity to see and I'm just randomly throwing out Disney. You could C N game. You could see captain marvel three weeks early. Would you do it? I mean, I'm already subscribed team see list. I would be happy as a consumer. But actually would think like ethically. I think that's kind of wrong thing to do where you're kind of forcing people to subscribe to pay extra money because you know, let's say you're you're someone who AMC is not near and you you're subscribe to whatever real has or whatever something else has. And now the only way you can see this early is to subscribe to another service that you really don't need or don't want. So it's it's one of those things where you're forcing the consumer to pay extra money, and that's what I don't agree with the biggest shoes and fan ever. And another twenty dollars a month is going to hurt you, you know, like that is financially going to be tough for you. I think that is kind of muddy waters as well. But the free version take your hip and enjoy that's what I'm saying. Like with the fandango, I'm not opposed to whatever free rewards Graham that you just sign up for and you mentioned incentivizing that makes sense. But as soon as you start saying well. You have to subscribe for X amount of dollars for months. Yeah. To see the exact same thing for now. More money. I am on the same exact pages both of you. But all I hear is Roquette in my ear saying, it's not just about the art. It's also business is a business seen. Seventeen dollars. The ticket is plenty it is. I don't mind people needed to make their money. The Steed not make their money that theater make they're the people who create the movie need to make their money. But this is a case not the faint Ango inches. Am I'm saying if they were to turn into this model trying to get every last dollar out of the consumer that's already, you know, maybe like you said it can't maybe twenty dollars is all they can afford. Now, you want them to pay forty fifty doll. Shame. I wonder if that would wind up having a reverse effect where it people would shy away even more like I wonder if there's just a price threshold for the movies. And if it hit that point, then all of a sudden, all the attention and all the focus would go to streaming services. And that flexes sure hoping that happens, really. But I mean, the thing is when you talk about some like vendors aimed game. I know there will be probably millions of people that are willing willing to pay extra money to see it earlier their first born when I'm saying. He just said. Yeah. Just said, it's a bad precedent? It's like, okay. They're willing to do it for that movie. And then the next one and the next one it'd become better than they are done. Well, let's hope this pans out in a good way that one gets movies to everybody's out there. But also respects the movie goer as well. All right before we move onto story. Number three. I must remind you. We are taking your life Twitter questions at the end of the show. I saw Adam was happy. I did that back there. I remember today. Start who's the hashtag collider movie talk? And we'll pick a few questions before we wrap up now going on. Oh, speaking of Netflix story, number three. So as we all know, they released the Bander Sach episode of black mirror on Netflix late last year. And it had a choose your own adventure style. And after the release of that many suspected that they were going to continue to run with that format. Now, Netflix is basically confirmed just that. So while speaking at a conference in India, Netflix is vice president of product Tom Yellen, discussed the company's plans for more bender snatch style projects in the future. He said it's a big hit here in India. Two huge hit around the world, and we really. Wow, interactive storytelling is something we want to bet more on. He also said we're doubling down on that. So expect over the next year or two to see more interactive storytelling. Dennis. Did you see bender snatch? What did you think? And do you want more of it? I did see banner snatch. I enjoyed it. But I'm not one hundred percent sold on this particular execution of what they're calling interactive storytelling. Like I mentioned before I do the clutter game channel. And and when you talk about some of the bigger, not I'm not talking about just the games, they'd go around and shoot, people, whatever. But there are games that have storytelling in them. And it's more interactive there. There was a games company. Unfortunately, that closed down called telltale games that did Walking Dead games that game thrones games cool game called wolf among us. And that was kind of a blend of kind of interactive almost television like storytelling where you would play characters. But it wasn't exactly like a lot of like shooting and killing and. What not you're controlling the story to an extent. But this is like a lesser version. You're literally just choosing to choices. And you just move it over it. It's almost like watching. A more clever way of watching deleted scenes and alternate endings. Right. So I liked I liked it. But I just wasn't one hundred percent sold on how they executed because it's just it's very limited. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a technology that would need to evolve a little I was very impressed by the whole thing. I think one of the main things that frustrated me about it, though was just this idea of black mirror being what it was. And also this obsession I have with like meet organized stories and the obsession, I think the general public has at this point with cannon, and the fact that we all got different stories, and at the end, I was just wondering like what is the true story? And I was excited to see all those different endings. But I almost I almost found added frustration and not knowing how to file it away in my brain. But there's something very interesting in the whole thing. I also think the technology needs to evolve just in terms of making it a more communal experience. Because one of the things that at least stopped me from watching it. For the first two days that it was out was I happen to have been home for the holidays with my family, and we wanted to watch it together. But the problem is you couldn't play it on the apple TV you can only play it on like your specific device. So spiracy, we could we couldn't watch together though. And for that reason, obviously, I eventually went home, and I watched it myself, but some of my family never went up watching it for that specific about it. I think a little bit. Sorry. I do know you haven't seen it. And I am very curious to know why you haven't seen it. Yeah. I mean, honestly production life is real. It's real guys. It's a full energy sucker. Let's call it. First of all, I love the name banner stanch really rolls off the tongue there. I really love the series black mirror idea. Remember whenever this came out several months ago, just scrolling. And I thought it was like, oh, there's more episodes. And then I was like, oh, it's a film interesting. And I watched the trailer, and I really liked this premise, I mean in an age of constant remakes. I think it is something fresh interactive. I agree. It's like, you know, that's kind of generous of term but alternate endings. And I do think that concept is cool. Why are Senate foul so obsessed with seeing the directors Cup? You know because it is different. It's a different path. And most of the time it's better. It's just like the studio wanted to keep it a certain time frame. Yeah. So yeah, I think it's something new and different. And like, choose your. Adventure books for my favorite growing up. Like, I love that. So I can't really speak to the property itself. Because I haven't seen it. But I do think it's interesting and to your point of like tech still figuring all that out. I'm sure they'll smooth that over if they want to double down as you call it. So yeah. Yeah. They're definitely developing that a lot further and really all the behind the scenes because right. When this came out there were like epic long features about really the ins and the outs of the technology. They developed to make this happen. And it's mind blowing hit a point where that exists. But another thing that that this vice president from Netflix. It said was this format isn't going to be restricted to darker subject matter like banner snatch. They could let's say have a romance where in that romance. Someone has to decide we'll I date this person, or will I not is there any particular genre? You guys think the shooter adventure story would be really interesting to explore fantasy fantasy would be amazing. And yeah saying. Like, and hopefully, they would take half some balls and like kill the main character often the end not to go morbid on it. But like to actually have a complete different. Like, I think about sliding doors all the time the going to Paltrow film and like in your own life. Like if you just did this one thing differently. What would happen? And I feel like it'd be cool to make a little bit more nuanced and that in a blink of an eye. It could have gone this direction or this direction and change the entire course. I don't know if they did that. Did you watch both endings? I there were more than two. Oh, wow. There were a lot of. And I like that. I like I might have watched something like close to three hours total. I got to a lot of the big endings that people were talking about. I wind up with something like four maybe five two different endings. But one this is going to think about the whole concept of this because I was thinking behind the scenes stuff. This must be a nightmare to shake continue on on a set. Alright hard to keep placement of items and whatnot and. All the time. You gotta take that to another level with this because you have to reshoot the exact same scene, but something slightly different. But yeah. And you mentioned like the the kind of communal aspect of it like there was a game on PlayStation, four called hidden agenda that was this game where you actually had you can have up to four or five people that could play on there on your smartphone. And choose so they would have like here's the decision for the story. And then who you know, I think it must have been five because you need like a tiebreaker, whatever. And then you you would all like pick with the one you want and the one that got the most votes. That's the way win. That's cool demand. It will sound something like that with with bender's San think there's room for Boehner's because one of the one of the coolest elements Bander snatch to me was when I found myself in like the more heated portions of the story where because what it is. If you haven't actually watched it yet is that there's. Like a countdown. You only have so long to make the decision. And so a couple of times I found myself, you know, Schmidt sing a little about making the decision. And then sometimes they made the decision so quick. And then like, no like I wanted to go back and make a different decision fine. You can't do it. And it just ups the Intel it. Yeah. Well, now, I'm in now, I can't wait to see this. I would definitely recommend giving it a shot. I'm curious to see what they do going forward with this. Because like you said, and like we've been talking about this entire episode of the show it is a business. And when I think about I mean, I'm sure you've experienced this every day of filming matters. And sometimes you don't you don't necessarily wanna funnel a chunk of your budget into something that nobody is going to see because I know there's certain parts of banner snatch parts of the finished products that they said people will never be able to unlock. So could you imagine let's say spending X amount of dollars on a scene that very few people out there even get to right? But it is also cheaper to have the same cast. The same said the same. Everything and just keep shooting that direction opposed to like an entire different production. If this is going to make the money, you know, because they're not doing it to win friends over we know. So I think that's I think it's interesting. I applaud the producers the show who mapped all this out. I played more difficult than any of Google search the flow chart they've afloat. Yeah. That shows all the branches of the storylines with all the different Abrahams. I'm obsessed with Brown eyes love escape rooms have you seen escape room? I haven't you should see what I've done like five of them. And I be all of your good at on like really someone. He went on your team for an escape. What do you do when you're in an escape room with someone who sucks because that's that's where I lose my mind like a handle it. I I was talking about how this would be a really good first date because you can see it's like traveling internationally. You see a whole other side with them. Maybe not first day. I take that back second day. But yeah, I mean, they're dead weight. You know, you just you just move on you pick up the, no. No, you're going to backtrack. This is a first date idea. Because I figured you know, why even going to the second date if escape if they are going to freak out just cut off right from date number one. I'm really good under pressure. So, but like, I don't know I feel like that's pretty extreme. But like, maybe we're onto something this like a new little web series, like an actual company like escape room closet. 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So when it's like tell us what you want to pay. Hey trombone goes, blah, blah, blah. And you say we'll be fine carbo jopstone to fit your budget. Then we just all do finger snaps while a choir goes, savings coming at ya. Savings coming at ya. Yes. No. Maybe. Anyway, see you practice tonight. I got new lyrics for the rap break. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. All right. We got one more story to hit before we get to your live Twitter question, and it is a brand new trailer for the movie longshot. This one is alliance gate release. And it follows the unlikely romance between a hard heading politic. Journalists played by Seth Rogan and his first crush shortly steroid who now happens to be the current US secretary of state and is considering running for president longshot is opening up in theaters may third. All right. Who wants to go first? What did you guys think of this? Did you find it funny? We covered this a couple of weeks ago when it was the regular trailer and not the red band was I might have did that did that show too. And it was like an okay trailer. Nothing that great about this one is better. Obviously, these it's tough for R rated comedies to to make trailers that are as funny as they have to hold so much back. And so this definitely was funnier. I'm more interested in because of the director Jonathan Levin who did fifty fifty and warm bodies. And so look it didn't spark my interest that much. But you know, I did see in this trailer. An absolute must see from collider on there. So it said collider. So I I don't know who. Figure out where they. I didn't see it. I don't maybe Steve saw. But I don't think anyone posted a review unless it just wasn't the right here. So it must have been it must've been a social thing. One of our TV, Tori and sought for all, I know. Okay. So yeah. So I'm more interested than I was before. But I'm still I'm still like a little like. It must be good. If people are. I mean talking a lot about it considering it doesn't look that different from things we've seen before. Yeah. I mean, the second you put the two of them in a movie together. And you also put Jonathan Libyan's name on it. I am going to want to see it. No matter what the first trailer was. Okay enough for me this trailer. I do think is better. But what's increasing my interest? In seeing the movie are those first reactions out of south by south west. I was so bummed to have missed out on it myself. But the main criticism I seem to see about it for people who have seen the full feature is the same thing. I was concerned about when I saw the very first trailer, which is like it feels a little dated at this point like in terms of how it addresses certain themes. So I'm curious to see when I see the whole story fleshed out how it actually handles that. But this one had me not necessarily laughing at loud, but at least cracking a few more smiles than I did the first time, I mean one way or the other I'm going to see it. So it is already sold me. What do you think Muros same page? I feel like there's just too much talent behind this one. I love Jonathan Levin as well. The to mention as well as all the boys live Mandy lane. I like a lot of people didn't see that film. And I thought it was good it definitely in. Anyway. I'm not going to go into that. But yeah, I feel like it is that the story itself doesn't feel like something we haven't seen. But something that Jonathan is just so exceptional at is again, creating that grounded reality in these characters, they're not one dimensional. They have a lot of different layers. And it's fun to watch that unfold. And I mean, they are such an unlikely pair south Rogan has pulled some major hot women. Kevin like Charlie's like. Whoa. Played my man. Well, hopefully it works out for the two of them. And this I don't know this is going to be good summer. I think for for comedies though, because we have we have this. We have book smart and good boys and books. Martin good boys are both the south by south. Premieres as well both getting rave reviews. So who knows I feel like we we were discussing this a little bit yesterday. We're in a little bit of a lull with comedy. So to see to see a little like fire spark the genera, a little more at the box office would be nice. He's always sounds like it's thorough. Warm-hearted? You know, he always. Oh, yeah. I before too. There's always like a charming aspect to it, which we could use a little bit more would not mind that all right before we move onto those Twitter questions. We've got some plugs. Lots of stuff coming your way on the CLYDE or video channel tomorrow, including collider live jed eye counsel and movie talk right here live at four pm t as always and Dennis while you're here. What's going on on the collider games? Channel games channel. We do our podcast every Friday. You can subscribe to our podcast directly on the collider factory podcast feed. We also have it on our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com slash Clark games. We also have a bunch of stuff covering the new mortal combat game this new game division. Two is coming out. We've been doing all kinds of cool stuff. They're all righty ready for these Twitter questions. Stu it. Go with a book related book related question from Doni who writes, what's a book. That you would want to see adapted to the screen that hasn't yet. Anything come to mind. Interesting. Well, it just happened with ready player one. I loved that book. And I thought it could have lent itself. So well, and it wasn't as amazing as a lot of us wanted it to be. But that's just the first one that came to mind, I'll think about something that hasn't been adapted though, one that I want to be readapted his salems lot. I find the first adaptation of that to be fairly dated and not really for me. And I finally went back and read the source material, and I actually don't necessarily think that Stephen king's best book. But I think there are certain ideas that if brought to life, maybe even a modern spin on it. I think it's probably worth the big screen adaptation, and if pet cemetery hits big who knows maybe even more people are going to want wanna snatch up those books, and look what they did for it. You know, we both loved it. I got faith, and I hate clowns. And I still loved it. So that's a lot. A lot for me. It's been. I stopped reading fiction books. I read like nonfiction books for the longest time. But then once the audio book thing happened. So the only thing fiction wise, I've been listening to your like Star Wars ones are the only way think of his loss stars. I would love that to be adapted to insure and I have no problem with it. Because that book is so good. And it, you know, people have complaints about what is going on in the Star Wars universe right now. I think it's something that I think people would enjoy one other one that I wanted to bring up that. I hadn't thought of in a little while is so you're remember, what hunger games, I came out. And there was that young adult book meditation craze, one of the ones that I was reading is a D DJ Mikhail book called silo, and it was about it was about a small town. I mean, I wanna make sure I give you a proper synopsis on this. It's about a small town where a secretive branch of the navy kind of swoops in and like rounds up the townspeople because something has like infiltrated the community. And it's like this whole mystery about the being trapped in their tiny town and not knowing what exactly is happening to the people around them. And it was it had all that young adult charm. But there was also like a real sense of fear and suspense that came with that. And I know it had gotten it had the right picked up at a point. But then nothing came of it so silo, that's S Y L O. I feel like they should they should really funny. I never knew anybody else. But me who read that I loved the first book. Do you feel seeing a little bit? When you hear that, I'm telling you. So that would be my other pick right now. I have to ask another question from Doni because they really liked this one. I don't know if you're going to be able to think of anything off the top of your heads. But what was the most strange question you've ever been asked on this show or any QNA for that matter? I can't think of strange questions. Strange comments before. All right. Let's hear one. Now. I remember one guy just started yelling at me and said I would cocky because I'd like gotten a new haircut. Back in the. Sweet back. Then it was like weird. It was like I don't know where that why. You would connect the two things together. I find that amusing. Yeah. This is a really hard question. Because it's like there's been so many weird thing Covent from yesterday that brought to my attention to it. Apparently, you live Chatters were freaking out because I was holding a Cup of water the entire time hold. I was gonna call. If I didn't drink water. I don't know he said everyone was like super hot on the Cup of water that was in my hand. Like ninety percent of the house, really bizarre. Just like it was attached to. Clutching it most of the time because I don't want to call. You do you. You know, if you want to crush that Cup. You clutch Kyle up again. Yeah. I can't think of anything off the top of my head. I've been off camera. I've been behind it for a long time now. So maybe they'll be some weird ones today to look forward to. All right. Here's another one from allowed fan one two three two one two who as high I love animation and anime my questions about wonder park. I'm seeing it this weekend with my mom, and I was wondering how it will do at the box office. Hope it's great, thanks. Any wonder park box office predictions. It's one of those ones where I've seen some trailers for it. But I haven't heard any buzz about it. I lightly heard something behind the scenes, and it was positive lightly though. Yeah. I I don't know how well I don't know how much stock. I'm gonna put yet until like, I don't know if there was an embargo or something. But I actually before the show I did look up the rotten tomatoes score. 'cause I was curious as even the consensus was and there was nothing up there yet embargo. I suspect there there might be an embargo because coming out this Friday. Yeah. But I do dance. Yeah. There hasn't been too much bears around there's one positive review up on rotten tomatoes right now in the little the little cared for it is sufficiently diverting to engage kids for about eighty five minutes it can function as an appetizer. Scientific reporter what like this. This is it. It can function as an appetizer to an upcoming slate of high profile Disney titles. I don't know how to sounds like sounds like a medical reporter found this under my strange comment of the day term, real real views and this individual gives it a three out of four. Wednesday already. It's coming out Friday. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a good sign on a side note. I'm excited. We got the screening invites for missing link like next movie, which I'm excited to see because I love. The Kupa and the two strings if you want a number for this movie, I think I'm settling in somewhere around ten million dollars. It's a paramount animated release. And basically what I'm jumping off off of from. That is the fact that they also released Sherlock gnomes right around this time last year, and it made roughly that amount. So that's pretty much where I come up with ten million scientific to me like sometimes there is box. Box office predictions and not just a gut feeling. Give us a good one today, though. Neil Varma, always gives us. Good questions. He writes, hey panel. What John Rowe would you want? Netflix. Netflix is next. Choose your own adventure to be we kinda describe after that. Oh, I meant to. That's why I've flagged because I meant to bring it up in the actual story. Give me a horror movie net flicks. Choose your own adventure. Yeah. Yes. I'll Pimm and giving him, but I'm gonna warn you guys right now. I haven't prescreened this next one. Okay for it. Am I all right? Let's let's do John Ashford. Do you consider the marvel movies sequels or just a franchise? They sort of fall in the sequel category to me as they are all connected. Thanks for taking my question. That's interesting. I mean, that's such an interesting conversation about all the terminology. We have right now with franchise cinematic universe sequel recall, sometimes reboot reimagining, so I guess what do you what you read these? As do you look at them as straightforward sequels or being part of a larger franchise. Both. Yeah. It falls in that made rain because like okay for for example. We watched Benjamin fame war. I know some people's and it wasn't my complaint because I love the movie was that. Oh, it's not like a complete movie. It's like, no, it's not a complete movie because it's built on from all the other movies leading up to it. So and then also it's has a semi cliffhanger ending that. So it's a part one part two. So it's like, no it's not supposed to be a complete like, this is this character. And he has a story arc from point a to point beat. It's like, no if you watch if you knew what's going on with you. That's not going to happen. That's what makes it so brilliant. What fi mtm have pulled off is that they have mapped out. Can you imagine what like from iron men what like to show what they were going to create and to just bet big on this and to have them all linked and have continuity, in most cases and the after credit scenes and everything like, it's just pretty. Berlin. And like, yeah, it's both because they have the standalone character films, and then they have the unsolvable tomb up. So I think that's why they're so successful because if your favorite character is captain marvel you're going to get a movie with her, and then she's going to team up with the gang. You know? It's like, it's it's a really good way to keep us with this. You know, it's seems it actually seems fairly defined right now. But given the fact that they were also saying that new animated series on Disney. Plus, the what if stuff is going to be incorporated. I wonder if we need to broaden the term to account for different dimensions now. Oh, man. It's all gonna continue evolving. And you know, what we're going to keep covering it all for you guys. Dennis. Thank you so much for being your Amy rose. Thank you for swinging by today. I hope we get to have you back on the set real soon, Adam and the booth. Thank you as always we are glad to have you back today. And you know, what guys we are? So glad to have you joining us for this show as always like share this episode tell everybody, you know, about collider movie talk on the YouTube channel and on the. Podcast network as well. And don't forget tune in tomorrow four pm t live for a brand new episode. Let's say you just bought a house bad news is you're one step closer to becoming your parents. You'll proudly mow the lawn and skip anybody noticed you the lawn till people to stay off the lawn compare it to your neighbor's lawn and complain about having to mow the lawn again, good news is it's easy to bundle home and auto through progressive and save on your car insurance. 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157 Author Ryan La Sala

What Book Hooked You?

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157 Author Ryan La Sala

"This is what book cooked you. I'm Broccoli and thanks for listening. On on this episode I get to talk to Ryan LaSalle whose debut reverie comes out on December third from source books fire and the talk with Ryan about how he kind of grew up loving fantasy creating world. And how you can so clearly see how that sort of informed this story that he's been working on for so many years now started when he was a teenager us. It was great conversation. And I think you'll really enjoyed and also if you like like hearing more about Ryan Stay tuned to the end where I'll tell you about another great podcast first draft podcast and you'll be able to hear more of Ryan and his thoughts and stories but right now let's talk to the man himself Ryan Lasala about his debut release rubbery sorry so Ryan. What book hooked you? That's that's a great question. I have to say so I was thinking about this kind of critically because typically you not having come from like a very strong reading background I tend to mention like a lot of like the the Mainga and like annex consumes when I was a kid by actually when I was preparing for this remember a specific series that like I was completely clearly in error by when I was a kid and I don't know if anyone's going to remember this but it was called the jewel kingdom. You remember these. They're like paperback books from like forever ago and they were basically about like princesses that lived in Some sort of kingdom each one of them was like represented by like a specific precious stone. I've never heard of these. You've never heard of no. I think like for a long time. I thought it was some like weird like fever dream of mine because I just no one knew about them but me but it was the thing like the scholastic affairs push children aside to get to and There was until I actually in preparing for this. I actually looked it up to just just mostly to confirm that there was in fact doc real And it gave me like all of these sensory flashbacks but I think the reason. I love them so much is because a they were about like crystal jewels which was like my number. One interest of the kid. Anything sparkled And then also I'm pretty sure that came with like accessories so if you like a book like you would get also like a like a really cheap sort of Chintzy costume ring which to me was like sort of check all of my boxes and I used to. I remember I got a rock. I got some book and it came with a rock collection from class classic. Yes it and that's and I would never read the book and just had this rock collection. But so yeah but you mentioned so outside of these books you weren't necessarily a traditional What what maybe a teacher would call tradition reader although you were reading anime and things like that is that true. Is that what I'm understanding. Yeah for the most part I I did read a lot as a kid but I was very slow to it compared to a lot of my peers. So the point that I had to be in like remedial lessons to and I don't know if that's what would call them from Educator's point of view but they're lectures that like. I have two specific attention and support and help and like didn't get to go to recess or like not time because I had the news like me and several other kids to be taken out of class to get like specific help because we were just so far behind And my my mom would want me to say like no like. We're we're always reading like we prioritize books and we didn't like the house was full of them and I wasn't like shy reading I just I just wasn't quick and I actually still have a lot of trouble focusing on large blocks of text and And and so as a result when I was a younger kid I was really drawn to like comics and mango because because the text was just easier just and I also I mean part of it was the texting with. I just wasn't very visual kid on so really visual person and I love of drawing and I love illustration and In art form that sort of combined all about comic books was right up my alley. I almost more wanted to kind of experiment in the world's but I was reading about and be able to like invasion and participate in them and sort of draw the characters just sort of sitting there and taking on like a huge wall of tax to me was was kind of boring and so with these books this joy kingdom series. What what really stands out to you other than the the ring or whatever Chachi they threw in with it? What yeah what? What about these books? These stories are really You intrigued with a really pulled you in I think it was. I mean it was the element of like a fantasy land and sort of like So there's thirteen of them and they each focus on like a different story for like a different princess but it's all the same world and so it's like extended jewel kingdom universe. which to me at the time was like a totally new concept you know I had never encountered and actually you know I guess it would be false to say it never encountered 'cause there are things like Nancy drew and the Hardy Boys Charlie knew about but like the idea of like? Oh Wow all of these things are happening like independent of one another at the same time and it's like vast kingdom and there's a map That was sort of my introduction to like the the the the elements of world golding. And I really like now right. The the the idea of like a vast potential to a fantasy world I think this was for whatever reason the thing that kind of brought me into realizing that like as an author you can do that you don't have to just write about one character story plot it through like a A fantasy and then you have to throw the whole world out you can kind of keep going in other directions on this is sort of the I series that made me. That was the thing cool and with you mentioned in your your early struggles with reading or needing then extra help in school. Do you think That may be turned you off a little bit too books that there was Extra effort and you had to have this extra help with did it stigmatize Reading for you at all. I don't know if it's stigmatized leading for me so much as it's just wasn't the thing that I would reach four four and like I'm a kid of the nineties there was a ton of MEA and some out there that wasn't necessarily books while there were also great books so like video games that sort when I would specify a lot of games took a really narrative approach to the way that they built world that I was totally enamored by Like I remember the final fantasy series like I would wash my cousins play and I just could not get enough of learning about like the lower in the world behind them and then when they started making movies and shows out of Games like that was. That's what I wanted. That's what I want it. From those things it was basically an interactive approach to storytelling. I did like reading and there were definitely books that I would come to but for the most part a lot of the stuff that I you know you hand a a little boy in the nineties. especially you know me. Being an exceptionally gay child was like not something that I was super interested in like I. I think. Probably fewer than like thirty adults tried to like voice the hobbit onto me and I remember I got to the same part every single time. And then just put it down and it was the part where the dwarfs I just wouldn't stop singing about smoky mountains and I was like why am I reading. This is crazy who cares And and then down to the point that like e even my my father who was like determined he was like working at the Audio Book and listening to it on the drive. I fell asleep during the lake. Vocalized Misty Mountain Song. They like takes place right in the beginning. I just could not figure out why this matter matter to me which is a little bit ridiculous? 'cause like you know yet here I am a little boy completely addicted to like a series of books about princesses that we're like jewels. But now I see that now like Oh you know what like just sort of inherently Flynn points. I'm not of this in the fact that I was given a ring and that I could sort of participate in the story via just like accessory like that's what I needed. It wasn't the you know song about dwarfs in there about so other than you know you mentioned loving Magna So like what a what kind of Child where you especially growing up in to sort of adolescence middle grade waie age. How would you look back? And how would you describe yourself. What were you into those things I I was big into fantasy and sort of imagining my own fantasies and I didn't do a ton of writing as a kid but I did a lot of imagining and sort of like world building thing Outside of it like my brother and I worked forever kind of wrong. These like best fantasy mouths of worlds and participating in this. Like sort of like cartography slash large slash like very analogue version of like world of warcraft. Before that was even a thing where like we would like our characters. There's like Sorta big battles that would happen And he's like vast terrain Ian Systems that we built so like when I when I think of me as a kid like for the most part like I'm hundred sketchbook Drawing characters drawing world and basically just trying to kind of built these things out I only actually actually ended up writing books because I really wanted to go to art school and be an illustrator But I just felt like I was never going to do that because there was something so so unreal about that but like putting pen to paper like that. I did every day in school like that. Felt a little bit more real than of course. I'm books that were like you know in line with my interest and I was like oh I could probably do this but yeah no other kid I was. I was like that really. Arctic had Always covered them like safety pins the pain and what did you think. Thank you mentioned that that becoming an illustrator or whatever you want to do with your artistic endeavors. seemed unrealistic. What why was that? What was in your thinking that that led you to that it was partly I think the the fact that I just could not figure out how it `lustration worked This is like and this is. Maybe it's simple to like a lot of people that have like youtube but just the idea of taking a two dimensional drawing and rendering as like a film Automatically as I was a kid. You're like well. I need to draw thousands of times like what am I going to do that. Like there was just something so vast and and sort of like there was like I would say like engineering mystique about L. Association that I couldn't quite get through I couldn't figure out how. Oh how I okay. That's wrong gets book would eventually be an animator. I like you know Disney or Wickham sailor moon on my other favorite favorite stories More realistic was drawing comics. But even then You know you look at your work and then you look like jacker worker. Somebody and you're like there's a huge difference here and I couldn't again like I was like. How do I even use color? Like what am I using that. Marker is that teams. I don't know And I did I mean. Luckily my parents were like. Oh this kid like are so they put me in a lot of different situations to learn so like even like to the point that I went to the camps and stuff for for But I think I was a little bit too scattered to really dedicate myself specifically to that until like visual art. I really had an idea the of what I wanted to do. And the idea of taking like feedback critique or criticism You have to be pretty good about that If you're going to make a foreign that world and while it will do that now like at the time. I just kind of want us to do what I wanted to do. And I remember actually I remember distinctly being in in our class and You know it was a very a good drawer and so any sort of like drawing painting I would always do really well and In like this art teacher who has sort of had enough of me like a previous year comes in and I was like Oh looks at my work and of course like you know. I'm drawing something in like a anime inspired south. Because I knew how to do. And he's like oh I see you're still drawing your ferries and I think it was like it was like it was like got. It wasn't supposed to be a theory. Wasn't even hassle. It was literally like an advertisement for like an advertisement Klaus but like that like dismissive attitude of. Oh you're so you can only really do this. One thing thing and especially like the derision behind the world the the word like ferry And it connotations with like how people often derided like for whatever reason that sort of shut me out of. I like the idea of thinking like Oh you know what visual design is where I WANNA WANNA end up And I just wanted to do something a little bit safer and more concrete so yeah I didn't give up on digital art by any actually. Still Love drawing and crafting and all of that stuff. I'm getting back into a Lotta behind. Probably when I went to to college but for the most part of it just didn't feel like a beer. It's like something that I could do to entertain myself and ultimately I was going to have to put that down pick up if I was going to survive and so so in your teenage phase. What stories and doesn't necessarily have to be books that could be anime or it could be? What stories do you remember You really loving during that time really gravitating towards That really kind of are maybe hallmarks to your adolescence. When you think back well for sure? Sure Sailor Moon. I'm literally in my room right now looking at a waffle of Hillerman posters so I feel like they would all glare at me if I said anything else She's the And I would say the most influential media that I have but also if I think trend wise I remember a lot of times I would have this feeling where her I would encounter something like out of Japan or out of like Europe something like animated typically and I would just like totally perplexed at like a very different style like storytelling that one hundred percent defied. What like a lot of like western stories? Look like and oftentimes it goes into the things that I would really go out of my way to pursue. Do an investigate and become a network. Because you really have to fight hard to like I mean this is again like prior to like netflixing all that fun stuff where In Denver went that like I literally begged my father to take a flick the independent movie theater at like the local art school. 'cause they were playing. You know spirited away or something like that because I I caught a glimpse of it. I'm like maybe the take a taxi or in the newspaper and I just by style alone. This is probably GonNa be something that I love and often times it was and so then what. What point did you really focus in on your writing? I really want to dedicate time effort to to run something substantially Whether it's a book or whether it's a series of short stories however you wanted to find within high school. I started experimenting with actually writing down a lot of the stuff that I was drawing and imagining and I think it's because you know people are making decisions about their future and high school and I was like you know I'm not going to And wrong all the stuff but I don't WanNA lose it I'm so captivated by this in writing was so easy and accessible and so that began my writing career but it was not you know writing at the time it was just kind of chronicling characters and their stops in their interests. And and things like that Actually you know now. You've reminded me yeah. I think the first brush that I had with like really getting into like narrative Maybe state maybe you don't but there used to be the site and actually maybe it's still op-ed it is called the online. Have you ever heard of that. It does sound familiar. Yeah Yeah it's like it was great and I I don't know what's become of it but basically thickly like you. Would you create an Avatar. And the whole site was built around. Like the more time you spent the night you accumulate gold and then you could spend gold only cute outfits and it's like you know you pay like real the money you could get like even cuter Albertson accessories and like that wings and all sorts of stuff that you could out your Avatar in Sort of built around like keeping people people on it right and so they were like games and Chat rooms and all this fun stuff However there were also forum In the forums they would have different interests form so there would be like you know if you want us to talk about anime like go do that here. Or if you love sports like you can do that here But the ones that I loved were there were a bunch of like writing jobs. That were They call them skills. I remember that specifically because they were like these elevated forums where basically like you to apply fly intimate like a writing sample and then if you were allowed in it would be this kind of RPG style but really like more like you chapter. I read go to chapter you. Write a POV IRA to Pov Situation where people would just kind of build up a world then cast that world with like their friends and then they they would just kind of take turns writing Chapter Sport And I looked up to me was totally new and I remember. I think that's probably when I first began thinking like. Oh you know like I have something here. I really am totally excited at the end of the school. Run home and see if there's been an update and you know post host my story and drafting spell check and all that fun stuff. I think that would probably be the very first time that I got really into like writing that I'm getting now and the reindeer. You're doing now as you meant mentioned it your debut reverie comes out on December third. So start talking about that. And so give us the synopsis of what the Books About. Yeah sure so. Reverie is the story of Cain. Montgomery he's a young gay kid in Connecticut which really sounds pretty familiar And the story is about him trying to save his Friends and families from the clutches of a maniacal Drag Queen Sore. I named Posey who is trying to Basically tear down reality and build a new on her terms and The title of the Book Reverie comes it was from A term the book where these these battles that came having with Posey the directly they take place in these like vast living worlds That are sort of dreamt into reality and impose upon it They're not dreams but they're Kinda like that the dreamy and and yeah they're called. They're called referees. So the story sort of goes through a bunch of different worlds. There's a few different genres thrown in on. There's lots of action things don't go well And sort of a mishmash of just everything that I wanted to see a offend people when when I was attained. That's actually when I started writing up and so when you were when you first got this idea. What was that initial idea? Initially for every I think comes from I mean now it's sort of through the lens of Guy Because that's what's on my mind right now. I'm kind of wondering I think I just had like beloved characters and aspects of characters but I liked but I just kind of kept on putting them into a different world because something about you know being a writer I would fall. I love with the idea of a specific character but I wouldn't necessarily want to leave them behind if I lost interest in the world that felt because I was always creating stuff so bring them with me and eventually I just. It's really like the idea of a of a cast of characters that kind of slip into a world and take on A persona given to them by that world Much in the way that like I mean I think now people have told me I actually don't watch doctor who but people are like doctor who likes US where they'll end up in the world and they'll have to like abide by that world's walk cool So people are looking for sort of like a model of what math needed me about it. Like that would be a good one or like Another one that all reference sometimes for people who have trouble imagining it is like kingdom parts. I love that game because I love the idea of like playing these characters that would go into Disneyworld and sort of be changed by that world and have to have to blend in and sort of play by that world's rules until Until they were you know completing wherever they were there to do I just love the idea. Sort of traversing a ton of different realms with the same MHM cast and writing fantasy It sounds like just kind of following your story in your path. You were sort of training in yourself to become a fantasy writer by The drawing and the creation you said you were doing with your brother in making these maps and drawing these characters do kind of see uh-huh how your younger self kind of prepared you for where you what you're writing today. Yeah absolutely I was so invested in creating the kid that Yeah it would be. I wouldn't say it was very obvious. Met the time but like now as I'm about to publish a book like I am very able to see the connection between basically my fixation on the creating worlds fantasy as a kid and how that benefited me now. A lot of the things that I've done in my life we're actually all about understanding how world worker. How fantasy worlds work specifically and then figuring out like you know why am interested in creating my own And even those kids like like I I was like this is not to say that this is the same thing as lurking but like even like a little kid like my fantasy were like interactive like I would remove people during like Reza to like. Thank you know. Act Out like a scene from Red Wall with me because I was really into that book series for a little bit There was always an element of of kind of wanting to participate in those worlds. That I think I really crave as like a little kid. And now as like a adult a writer I got to kind of build them an participate in them. And then you know ideally talked to readers and your villain Posey who who is a strong wind. When when did that idea for for this antagonised especially Making her a drag queen. When did that sort of come along? And how did you really sort of develop that. So drag was always a part of my childhood just because my parents super liberal and we would spend like holidays up in province town where there are a lot of drag Queen Queen performers and They're you know they're out on the streets. They're looking for people to come to their shows moving to go to their shows so I knew what drag was from a really early age and it was was always cemented in my mind is like kind of a very powerful artistic tool or form of expression By actually I think the initial initial like kernel of an idea that became posey eventually was I remember encountering so this is like back when like my face was big And my face was this great for you know small town like me. 'cause it's sort of like showed us all like it was like a heat map with all the other queer people kind of around us which which like I just did not have like Guy Online didn't have avatars whereas like my sister because these people are like in a town over like I never knew And I remember to a I got into a fight with MHM Jeffrey Star via my BMI totally wrote yet. Yeah you like totally. He misinterpreted a comment. That I made. I'm one of his post and then when he like wrote like this like essay just like totally like humiliating and I remember I wrote him and FA apologized tearfully for like months after after. That was like Oh my God. I hope Jeffrey started isn't hate me like of course he didn't know who I was like. Who cares he was playing with everybody and remains to be a person is still fighting with everybody? But at the time I was like Oh oh my God like astounding sort of like like androgynous like and I don't think jeopardy would call the address but at the time that was kind of a schematic Matt but I have to them This person like you know changes their body and like kind of changes their world like. Oh my God. Like they're you know they're so powerful and And angry like Jeffrey was doing a ton of writing about like how angry he was up the world at the time. And you know how he was going to change things and I still think of that anger. oftentimes that's what. I'm trying to think of what Posey would you in certain situations kind of righteousness and that Sense of justice to kind of create the world that you want to be in oftentimes I sort of come back to that moment of like you know being on the receiving end of one of those like diatribes And that was. That was the beginning of it. I remember in part of this. Just GonNa Bring the point home as I remember Santa Part of Jeffrey Star because I was again I would draw a lot and eventually kind of developed and to not really anything much star. It kind of designing a character craft around like this like hyper feminine that slash like a mess with like masculinity and their Fighter type of warrior character. Dr That people just could not stop like no matter what I just whatever. We became very unanswered without image and That is still very much like what Posey Camila Grey and you know you kind of alluded to When you mentioned that this place takes in Connecticut that there is mirrors? Here's to your to your maybe your younger self or you really have drawn from your own life. Do you see that reflection that that this is in a way a a message to your younger self or a story for your younger self and what was rolling around in your head back then. Yeah I mean absolutely I from a very young age was always very skeptical about lake the limits of reality and probably because I took in a ton of fantasy but also you know remember reading stories about people that you know they they just in a moment of like insurmountable crisis they would develop like telekinesis or something like that and I was convinced I was like okay. Well if I suffer enough like I'm GonNa get cool towers. Ours are like I'm gonNA tripped over myself into like Naria I'm GonNa fall down the rabbit hole like the idea of these doorways It just came to me very easily like a kid in Connecticut Atika basically spent a ton of time like outside the would Because I was in a suburb of wooded areas like many camping trips. And it just sort of lends itself itself to lake this lake sense of like mystery and women about the world And the other thing about Connecticut is that this is true for a lot of like places in the North East. They're all these like decrepit factories that are just kind kind of abandoned to the wild and You're not supposed to go on them and And we did anyways all the time like teenagers were always explaining to places. And it's just it came with a profound sense of like otherworldliness that like and maybe that because I was sort of predisposed to sort of being like this like natural incredulity towards like the way things where but like you know here I was like walking the evidence of another world that had been forgotten and abandoned that no one really seems to know about but it was just sort of folded into the hills of like highway. Or something like that and you couldn't even see it You know from ten feet away unless these sort of like pass through like a line of Bushes and interesting idea about sort of like that. They're like world. I could sort of expand these pockets of dimensions that Artful but only if you really really look for them and believe and then That was a lot of my childhood in Connecticut and And that's a lot of what I mean that that specifically perfect sense informs Canes attitude towards the World Not right at the beginning of the book but I think as he's sort of navigate to it and discovers. There's actually a lot a lot more to the reality that he's been you know that he's been living and so you said you started reverie When you were teen and now it comes out on December third? So how has it been to have lived and kind of dealt with this world or the characters for for these many years in some fashion and now you know come to summer third. You're going to be sharing it with the rest of us. I'm very very excited. Because you know for me. Book has been like a companion. It's been sort of the thing that I had in my mind for over ten years. 'cause I started it when I was probably like a junior in high school And I graduated stuffing tonight. And so there's a sense of relief right of like kind of passing thing this on and there is a weird sense of of joy to kind of like talking with people but it is very weird right because I I sort of created. The they've been you know my contents for so long That to kind of share them in Peoplesoft with them is fascinating But it also is a little bit scary and there is also like sense of and I think a lot of artists. I would probably agree with this. Like there's this kind of strange sense of betrayal. Once your work becomes independent of you like I remember finishing reverie For the first time because I had I read this book like a ton of times the the very first time that I like sort of put the end on the end of the felt. Like instantaneous. Abandonment I was like Oh my God. The story like no longer needs me. Like if I were to just like get raptured right now like this book would exist with or without me and And it doesn't matter it doesn't matter who I look. Look some stories complete like I no longer need to push her it out to And I still feel that way every time I kind of finish something with it To sensitive like oh no like now without their But luckily like and this is my way through this point yet but like there's a lot more or to it that I'll never get to put into the books because I spent so long with it And so for a certain I mean for the most part. That's it's actually kind of a comfort to me that A lot of it's still kind of maintains itself as you know it's mine it's in me And maybe one day I'll get to kind of excavate everything but The referee is very much just a fraction of a ton of the stuff that imagine into that world Recently I just described it to someone sort of like a prolonged. It's kind of the story that I wanted to tell but But you know I have to kind of get this one out of the way before I go into the end of it so I don't know if that will ever happen but But it is a comfort to me to kind of know that there's a lot more that only belongs to me. I still got to sort of dwell in for the time being. It's wind things down here and as we do ask you questions I ask ask. Everyone The first one being. What is your favorite movie? That's based on a book house moving without a doubt popular not ah maybe third third or fourth them as far as popular answers go is it. Yeah I think I think it's because it's like such a cool and changing movie but the book is also very different and I'm sure I I know a lot. 'cause I almost nurse toilets. No people say this allows them. I thought maybe thinking of something else but now that the the only Real Lake Book to movie adaptation that I truly truly door the transition to right. It's not just like I like the book. I really love the way that they're different. Yeah yeah absolutely then the next question. Is there a book or a series that you're willing to admit you've either never read or never finished the Lord Lord of the Rings. I already admitted that earlier than talk in Classics I've just never done. I mean honestly like either so many answers for this book for the question because there are so many books that I neglected to read that people consider to be like absolutely like I've given up on basically every major science fiction or fantasy the series At least one another I think most books take me several tries to read And so yeah I mean for those that are worried I have read Harry Harry Potter. Don't worry like I did get through that one but like I can't think of the foundation theories lost like gave up on those like or the rings and do that how `bout note Basically the greatest I probably I'm GonNa Fail on and then finally. What is the last great book that you've read Um Well I'm in a really great position because people send me books now right like time like in a publisher's office oh like just like Oh. Hey did you hear about the book. And they'll hand it's me though I've got a ton But the one that I want to highlight is the brilliant down by Amy rose. Kapeta is a Specific mix of like fantasy. It's basically a fantasy that takes place in like a reimagining of like Italy elite like Mafia Italy and so the the instead of like a royal family. There's like there's a bunch of broil families and they sort of they're not even royal there's very powerful and The book has a ton of absolutely gorgeous writing but those are all about like how to transform oneself and how sort of use powers that are really. Typical and fantasy like the main character can basically take our enemies and transform them into like everyday objects from which sounds like really like very like like an oddly silly we power but when you start reading about it it makes complete sense and by the end of the book? You're like Oh especially the coolest thing in the world and and there's a ton of like really awesome awesome like Gender Queer Trans and like non binary representation in it Just as a as a matter of fact when reading about people that can transform anything including themselves and and I thought it was handled in a really fascinating way great well Ryan your debut. Reverie comes out on December. The third congratulations. And I wish you in this book. All all the best. Thank you so much I had a great time and that wraps up a nother episode. I want to thank Ryan Lasalle for joining me again. His book revelry is out on December third from source books fire. Hope you'll check it out and if you'd like to hear hear more from Ryan more about this book and maybe even want to expand your podcast listening. I hope you'll check out first. Draft Raft. podcast where Ryan episode will be coming out onto. Some of the third first draft is a great podcast that has a lot of authors both. Why a lot of creative people the host? Sarah any is great. This is a podcast that I listen to quite frequently Sarah's great I always love that she's in the room with the person and I can tell you someone that does podcast and has to set up and try to make schedules meet to have these interviews just by phone or skype to have to be face to face. The amount of planning that it takes in is a commendable and it just shows how much care has put into each one So again that's the first draft podcast. You can find it ever. You subscribe or listen to podcasts. You can find it in the show notes this episode sewed and be sure to on December third. Checkout Ryan LaSalle is episode. It is also the same day that his his debut revelry comes out. I'm Brock Shelley and until next time keep reading

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Beslan School Crisis Pt. 1

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Beslan School Crisis Pt. 1

"Vis episode contains discussion of violence and murder that some people may find offensive listener discretion is advised especially for children under the thirteen. You on the morning wing of September first two thousand four at the foot of Russia's Caucasus mountains. The small town of Best Lawn was a buzz children addressed in Chris. School uniforms marched with their families carrying balloons and flowers for the first day of class. It was a national holiday known. As the the day of knowledge soon they approached a red brick school that housed classrooms rooms for students ages seven to eighteen. Everyone gathered in the courtyard while the anxious seven year old I years filed into the building and this year they would be part of the day's opening ceremony rather than just spectators family members brought cameras and some even hired professional videographers to capture the moment. Soon the first year started to walk out together. One girl was hoisted onto the shoulders of an older student. It would be her job to ring the bell signaling the beginning of the school year. Everyone cheered in their excitement. No one noticed a large truck pull up to the building out of it jumped thirty two masked men an all heavily armed. They began to shoot their machine. Guns wildly into the air screaming at the crowd out of it jumped thirty two masked men all heavily armed. They began to shoot their machine scene. Guns wildly into the air screaming at the crowd those nearby who were unable to see what was happening assume the noise was fireworks or balloons popping but then the armed men infiltrated the gathering and began hurting the terrified students families and Staff Jeff into the school gym many attempted to flee or hide but few broke free and before it was all over the terrorist would gather more than one thousand two hundred hostages most of which were children. This was just the beginning of three days of horror more than bloodshed that the best lawn school. And what would ensue would be nothing short of a nightmare. This is hostage a podcast original every week. We tell the stories behind the most captivating hostage situations and the people inside them will also so cover. These psychological tactics used in kidnapping situations and with the human brain does when held captive. I'm Irma Blanco. And I'm Carter. Roy Oy you can find episodes of hostage and all other park asked originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream hostage for free on spotify by just opened the APP and type hostage in the search bar at par cast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do. We Love So. Let us know how we're doing doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star Dr Review Wherever you are listening it really does help. This is our first episode on the best lawn school siege and infamous hostage situation that involved more within one thousand two hundred adults and children held captive in best lawn Russia over three days on September. First two thousand four thirty. Two Chechnyan rebels infiltrated schools. First Day celebration trapping teachers students and their families inside had the campuses main building there they remain packed like cattle inside a gymnasium terrified for their lives as the Russian government attempted wanted to negotiate with the terrorists in today's episode. We'll discuss the events and political conflicts leading up to the best lawn school siege judge and give a detailed account of the terrorists initial attack. Then we'll cover. What would become one of the most horrifying hostage situations of the twenty first for century? Next week will delve into the negotiations process between Russia and the Chechnyan rebels and follow the hostages as they deal with three nightmarish days in captivity. Bess lawn is a rural Russian town in the Republic of North Ossetia. Alania near the country's southernmost border order with a population of only thirty five thousand and located more than one thousand miles south of Moscow. It was a small quiet kind of community. However it was the city's close proximity to Chechnya a region that had been in conflict with Russia for decades that would be best lawns doom them to understand what happened at best lawn? We must first understand Chechnya and it struggle struggle for freedom. Chechnya a primarily Muslim district is a federal subject of Russia that has been fighting for it's independence for decades since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. Chechnya and Russia have been embroiled in a bitter ongoing war but their tumultuous history stretches even further. Are there during World War. Two Stalin deported all Chechens citizens to Kazakhstan and parts of Siberia of this directive. Active was nothing short of a death. Sentence many Chechens died in resistance to the deportation and those who survived often perished in the harsh conditions dishes of their exile finally in Nineteen fifty-six over a decade after World War Two ended Chechens. Were allowed to make the pilgrimage. Image home for many. It took decades to return if at all the pilgrimage wasn't considered complete until nineteen ninety-two you almost forty years after the original deportation however when they finally arrived from their long journey they found that they no longer had their lands were their rights that year. Nineteen ninety to mark the beginning of Chechnya's fight for freedom but it would ultimately take four years and one hundred thousand Chechen lives to reach a ceasefire in nineteen ninety-six then for the first time in decades Chechens were able to elect their own officials. President Zelimhan John Darby of took office in one thousand nine hundred ninety. He six but this new freedom would last only three years. Nineteen Ninety nine Russian troops marched back onto Chechen soil and almost instantly took back control of the region than through a rigged and forced election. Russia installed their own Chechen president. Chechnya responded to this violence. In kind. In nineteen ninety nine the Chechen Chechen people launched invasions of armed militias as well as terrorist attacks in Russia primarily in Moscow. The nature of these attacks was merciless or solicit and demonstrated kind of brutality not often seen an ordinary warfare according to a Russian police psychologist in the hostage negotiator at-bats lawn. Who will refer to as Serena? The capacity for such violence is a product of Chechnya's war torn history Chechens feared for their their lives constantly. And those lucky enough to survive often witnessed their friends and family killed in air raids or similar attacks. It was these hardships chips that shape. The Chechens threshold for brutality. Serena explains most people cannot understand the minds of terrorists in the first place enormous. People have normal imitations on their thinking and most cannot go past these very human limits for things like torture and dismembering member infants. This threshold for brutality was no doubt the result of the horrors that Chechens faced on an almost routine basis. From a young age many were witnesses to torture and beheadings their children would even celebrate these killings dancing in the streets with the severed heads of their enemies. This is psychological breeding ground for terrorists. One such terrorist was Shamila. Besigye of though few people have heard of Shamila almost the entire world knows about the terrible crimes. He's committed and like many Chechens. His brutality came from a history of trauma. Camille was born January fourteenth nineteen sixty five to a family of Chechen militants starting with his grandfather who fought in the resistance against World War. Two deportation Shamila however led a quieter existence from most of his youth but when he was thirty years old this whole world. The world shifted in Nineteen ninety-five Shamil's wife life and children were killed by Russian air raids. On Chechnya Chenille was the sole survivor grief stricken by his family's murder. He began his reign of terror. The same year by nineteen ninety eight SHAMILA was Russia's most wanted man the leader behind many of Chechnya's terrorist attacks. There was a ten million dollar bounty on his head and Russia desperate to undermine his power made needs several false reports. That Shamir Cy. I've had been killed if he was worried by these threats to his life. He didn't show it when told in an interview he was Russia's most wanted man Shamila laughed asking. I'm a terrorist. But what would you call them. Should meal saw himself more as a terrorist hunter from his perspective. It was the Russians who were the terrorists for decades. They had persecuted his people and bombed his homeland he and his followers believed that they were fighting a holy early war against a greater evil and Shamila himself. No longer saw the Russians is human. He referred to them only as pigs. This this perspective allowed him to enact cruelty in its highest forms. He was responsible for the loss of hundreds. Possibly thousands of lives lives and was the mastermind behind some of eastern Europe's most horrifying terrorist acts in two thousand to thirty seven year olds. Shamila orchestrated the infamous Moscow theatre siege attack on the Dubrovka theatre that took place during a live musical performance on October. Twenty Third Fifty Shamil's els terrorists entered the theater and took over nine hundred Russians hostage for fifty eight hours when it was all over more than one hundred twenty nine had been killed including many children targeting. A venue that contain children was far from a coincidence in fact during the Moscow theater siege children's specifically were given cell phones in order to call their family members and incite panic According to hostage expert and researcher William Butler Child Hostages Are Boon for their captors with the lives of children children on the line. The other party often finds it emotionally difficult to properly negotiate and respond to a crisis this hindrance however makes it that much easier for the terrorists to have their demands met but Shamil's experience with children in hostages at the Moscow theatre. Siege was little more than a testing ground for the next two years. He began planning another larger attack. That would entangle hundreds of children in his struggle for Chechnyan freedom and though he wouldn't be present for it Shamil's set his sights on a new target best. Sloan school number one on the clear blue morning of September. First two thousand four forty five year old electrical engineer Sergei or of walked his daughter to school through the streets celon though there is little known about Sergius background. His account of that late summer morning is vivid Sergei and his wife Rita were each holding the hand of their seven year old daughter Zelina as they made their way to best loan school number one across Russia schools everywhere. We're we're celebrating the day of knowledge marking the first day of a brand new academic year Sergei could sense the excitement in the atmosphere as they strolled among a wave wave of other families kids carried balloons and flowers for their teachers eager to make a good impression while others race down the neighborhood street but no one was as thrilled as Alina. The day of knowledge was her very first year as a new student and she chatted in giggled with the other children. Sergei couldn't stop himself from grinning. Her enthusiasm was infectious. At nine am Sergei Rita and Zelina arrived outside of school number one with the rest of the families. Hundreds of people milled about laughing and hugging and soon Sergei spotted his brother and sister-in-law. The family exchanged warm greetings while Zelina skipped off with her teacher as she walked away she was beaming Zilina. Like all the other seven year olds would be making a special appearance during the day a ceremony. Soon the older kids would sing a song they had prepared about childhood and then the first years would walk out to the courtyard their first moment together as a class. The school staff wanted to make sure the celebration was day. Their new first year students would always remember but unfortunately this would be true for all the wrong reasons coming up. We'll see exactly how Shamila Besigye his followers prepared for the siege and follows Sergei and his family as a joyful day becomes a nightmare. Don't miss this falls. True Crime Lime Must Listen Call Me God the untold story of the DC sniper investigation from the leading true crime investigative team team. 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Starting December eleventh podcast is rereleasing forty. Five classic episodes from the critically acclaimed series. Remarkable lives tragic deaths as part of the new limited series famous. Fates Join Vanessa. Richardson and I as we discussed the amazing true stories. Behind some of history's most influential lives and shocking deaths. Every Wednesday famous fates will release five binge worthy the episodes only on spotify. Each group will center around a common theme such as Hollywood icons mysterious deaths or notorious names teams from Marilyn Monroe and Harry Houdini to Vincent Van Gogh and Al Capone. We'll delve deeper into the extraordinary lives. That helped shape our world and explore the lasting effects. Their deaths had on our culture. These incredible stories are all brought to life by an ensemble cast of talented voice. These actors and most importantly these episodes are all free and only available on spotify follow the par cast limited series famous fates only on spotify now back to the story the night. Before the day of knowledge celebration a group of Chechen terrorists had slept in the English forest. Just a few dozen miles northeast of best as long. They're they laid their plans for the very next day the day they would seize best lawn school number one the next morning they woke just before dawn to prepare praying cleaning weapons and eating breakfast. There were at least thirty two of them in total two of which were women. Female terrorists were not uncommon in Chechnya they were known as black widows a name that acknowledges the fact act that most of them had lost husbands and other family members in the war. These women were just as dedicated as their male counterparts to the Chechnyan. 'cause often traveling for months to complete various missions of their holy war in the case of the best lawn siege. Some members of the group group had taken up camp in the English forest for several weeks and for a time even Shamila Besigye himself stayed at the camp to help the group prepare hair for Bethlen. Mistakes had been made at the Moscow theatre siege two years ago and Shamila wanting meant to be certain he wasn't repeating them. He had lost some of his best fighters on that operation. This time he told himself he wouldn't suffer. The same best. Best Lawn was an ideal mark for Shamila. Moscow was more than a thousand miles away from Chechnya but best lawn was just seventy miles due east east. The drive took less than two hours. This close proximity made the planning of the operation far easier and the territory was far more familiar. Shem meal met with followers in the English forest. He pored over maps tracing their route into best lawn and check their weapons stocks. His fighters needed to be heavily armed with automatic guns grenades and bombs. Whatever they encountered on their way to best lawn they would be? Are you ready to overwhelm them with firepower alone. Because she meal wouldn't be present at the siege itself Elf. He left one of his most trusted men in charge. They called him. The colonel little is known about the colonel or any of the other the best launch terrorists in a way in the great equalizer of their holy war they all shared one identity. What is certain however whoever is that they were ready to kill or be killed for a free Chechnya that morning on September first the Chechen terrorists were ready to carry out? Shamil's long awaited plan fully armed all thirty two men Bannon women filed into a semi truck and drove east. The group used only back roads to avoid being stopped by authorities authorities. However this didn't work as planned on their route they were pulled over by a policeman? Driving on unofficial roadways oblivious to the armed fighters stowed away in the back of the semi. The the officer asked the driver for his documents. But it was thirty two against one. The heavily armed terrorist jumped out from the trucks. Hold and the policeman's gun was taken and turned on him at gunpoint. He was forced into the back seat of his own car. And the colonel took the wheel. The kernel used the police vehicle to give the semi-truck a police police escort letting the siren wail to part traffic. When they got to their destination they abandon the car and the policeman he was is miraculously alive? But soon the terrorists wouldn't be so merciful. They had just arrived at best lawn. School number one as soon as they parked most of the terrorists pulled black ski masks over their heads. But the colonel kept his face visible the women then carefully strapped bombs around their midsections and weapons were distributed as. They made their preparations. The sounds of singing. Winging children leaked through the hull of the truck. It was the last joyful noise they would here for three days. Meanwhile just outside of the school. The song schoolchildren prepared had just ended now it was time for the first year students to walk into the ceremony. forty-five-year-old Sergei or Manav couldn't help but tear up as his daughter seven-year-olds Zelina walked out from the school with her best friend together. They carried balloons and a sign that said first time to first grade as the children marched out the audience of kids parents and staff erupted. In cheers cheers and flaws. The whole courtyard was awash with noise and with their attention focused on the children. No one noticed. As the mass terraced terrorist made their way into the crowd. It took a couple of minutes before everyone began to grasp what was happening there. Realization came in waves rippling through the crowd but when they heard the rapid fire of machineguns confusion turned to panic back then they saw thirty two gunmen running toward them screaming. You are all hostages. Get to the gym. Chaos ask broke loose in school yard during the fray. A few of the older students were able to escape. Hundreds more weren't his lucky. The large majority of the people in attendance were herded into the gym. Sergei and his wife Rita were among them. Sergei Gate tried his best to keep reto within his site as they moved with the waves of people streaming in the building but he began to panic when you realized that Selena was nowhere it to be found. He looked around frantically for his daughter but all he saw was a sea of other children. That's when it Don don him. They could be marching to their deaths. He had to do something as they made either. Way Down the hall. Sergei began breaking. I four windows and push small children through so he could run in the process. He also helped his sister-in-law sister-in-law scape as he watched her flee from the building. Sergei and Rita were presented with only a few moments to make a life changing decision run now and possibly leave their child behind or stay no matter what the cost. They decided to stay. According to Psychologists Cate Sweeney of the University of Florida the process by which we make an urgent decision when facing a negative life event is called crisis decision theory this procedure here revolves around three key stages assessing the severity of negative event determining response options and then evaluating those response options in the case of Sergei and Rita this process was straightforward. The severity of the event was critical. It was quite literally the life or death situation involving the survival of themselves and their daughter and by that logic their response options were clear to flee the school meant a greater chance of surviving for them but a small chance that they would find the Lena alive and staying meant meant limiting their chance of survival but maximizing the likelihood that they would seize the Lena again the last stage of evaluating are you waiting response options had them weighing the pros and cons and for Sergei and Rita was only one possibility that was driving them forward the chance that they could ensure their daughters survival the choice though incredibly fraught to an outsider came to them instantly early no matter what they would always choose Zelina by a quarter to ten almost all of the students family members and teachers were crammed into the gym it was roughly twenty five yards long and ten yards wide ride around the size of a tennis court and now holding one thousand one hundred hostages but among the pact bodies Sergei saw Americal Michael Zelina the reunion was bittersweet there precious Selena was alive but none of them were safe all they could do was hold onto each other surgeon Rita did everything they could to soothe. They're terrified daughter. Sergei himself felt very little hope but one detail on settled him the most some of the terrorists including the colonel were no longer wearing masks surely early. If they expected anyone to make it out alive they would have covered their faces. Once everyone had been gathered in the gym the terrorists were quickly to rig it with explosives. They tied the nets of basketball hoops together and placed bombs inside aside and strung explosives together with wire across the length of the gym. Some bombs hung so low that anyone passing below had to duck under them any time. Someone made a walk to and from the restroom. It was a life or death. Game of limbo. There were two terrorists wrists who were tasked with standing on detonator pedals at all times. If they remove the pressure everyone in the building would die. It was a strategy to establish control and order and it wasn't the only precaution they'd take After the hostages possessions were confiscated. Most of the men were then ordered to leave the gym. It was clear the terrorists were doing everything possible. All to ensure there wouldn't be trouble without the males present. They assume the women and children were less likely to plan an attack or escape. Surrogate left his family thinking it would be the last time he ever saw them. But before he could dwell on the thought further he looked looked up to see one man reassuring the crowd of women and children that everything would be okay and then the terrorists shot him in the back of the head. Sergei had just witnessed his first death. In what would be a three day long nightmare. There were plenty more to come and Sergei and the other men were led to the hallway where they were positioned one in front of every window. When Sergei was put in place he understood the terrorists strategy outside the school? Dozens of armed best. Lon citizens were taking aim ready to shoot Chechen rebels. But instead they saw the faces of their friends and neighbors through the windows the Chechens were using them as human human shields. Bod Sergei realized this was offered the best with the amount of bombs rigged throughout the school one. Stray bullet in the wrong location could've killed everyone. They were standing in a giant death trap. Though armed Bethlen citizens had rushed to the school. The local local police were little help. Their training and experience hadn't prepared them for a crisis of this magnitude. Instead the Russian military terry had been alerted and were on their way but they weren't the only ones answering the call is news. The attacks spread like wildfire across across Russia government officials were headed to Bass Lawn to serve. As negotiators President Vladimir Putin had a main directive for each of them Save Save the children at all costs but while Russia was making preparations. For the crisis and best lan the Chechen Chechen terrorists. Were already far ahead of them coming up. We'll we'll discuss the fraught beginnings of Russia's negotiations with the Chechens and follow Sergei Romanov as he struggles to survive his first day of the past lawn siege. Now back to the story after what felt like ours Sergei and the other men were ordered to step back from the window sale where they had been ordered to stand as human shields and then they were told to start barring up the windows if anyone broke into the window they had reinforced. They were told they would be killed but once the work was done. The men were no longer needed surrogate and the others were led to a classroom and told to face the wall all with their hands behind their heads. They were about to be executed for most of the men. It was their final. I know moment but not for Sergei as the terrorists released their fire. Sergei was knocked unconscious but survived. Many of the men were killed outright but moments later Sergei awoke to the sounds of men groaning around him he had lived to seize alita again. Many of the men had been badly injured but remained alive. But this meant nothing to the terrorists. They simply finished them off. Then Sergei and the remaining uninjured the injured men were tasked with carrying the bloodied corpses of their neighbors and acquaintances to the second floor there to the horrors of the the onlookers outside the bodies were thrown out the windows into a gruesome pile. Sergei Okay and the other men felt extreme survivor's guilt why had they survived and not the others. When they returned to the gym? They were forced I to break the news to the family members of the murdered men. Some lied telling wives that their husbands were just in another room helping with negotiations nations. Everyone knew it wasn't true. With the building finally secured. It was time for the terrorists interest to make their demands. They used a female hostage to walk out a handwritten note containing the colonel's phone number to the government officials. Waiting in the school's courtyard among those gathered for the negotiations was Dr Leeann. Ed Rochelle one of the same negotiators theaters who also handled the Moscow theatre siege with the message the officials were also sent a warning wound. One of us us and we will kill twenty hostages. Kill one of us and we will kill fifty hostages. The female hostage pleaded with the authorities authorities not to shoot at the school telling them about the bombs. She also stressed that there were over one thousand people crammed into the hot Jim after saying her piece she walked back into the school to rejoin her son. Who is being held at gunpoint? The first negotiation attempt was made by Vitale Liaison Joan of an F. S. B. or Federal Security Bureau. Oh negotiator but when he dialed the phone number given to them for the colonel line was dead he wondered if it was some sort of sick joke. Meanwhile inside the school hours had gone by without any word from the government officials. The hostages began to worry. The the negotiations for their lives would never happen. They were told by the terrorist. Their government cared so little about them that they wouldn't even make a a phone call in reality however the wrong number had been scrawled on the note by accident after realizing the mistake Chechen soon sent a new message with the correct phone. Number was a poor start. Negotiations finally Zanjan of made initial contact with the colonel and they agreed to speak every half hour from that point forward. Each phone call made by Zong Yona own of was assisted by a psychologist. The initial goals were to elicit information and more importantly to form a relationship According to Amy Rose Grub of the University of Worcester. It's vital that a negotiator. We'll be able to empathize with the captor. The negotiator must be able to demonstrate that they understand the captors needs and they must do so in a way that doesn't convey judgment this approach builds rapport with the other side and ultimately will increase the hostages. Chances of survival using this method among others Zanjan of was able to establish an understanding with the colonel and in turn the Chechen assured jong-yoon of that most of the hostages were alive at this point in the negotiations. The terrorists specific demands were not discussed. There are conflicting reports that claim Zanjan of never asked for their concession while other state that the colonel initially refused us to discuss his demands. Either way than ago she aviation's yielded little progress for either side. Meanwhile the situation inside the gym was getting worse. The terrorists were beginning to fight amongst themselves especially the colonel and the two women witnesses heard the women protests that they were never told. The attack was happening at a school. It was supposed to be a police station. One was overheard saying firmly. I won't do it so far. The female terrorists only involvement had been confiscating items from the hostages hostages and they seemed unwilling to do anything more. What happened next? Would haunt the best line hostages for the rest of their alive. With no warning the bombs that had been secured around the women's wastes went off and the two of them were blown apart. The noise cut through the gym and Sergei and the other parents try right desperately to shield. The children's is from the horrific scene one account referred to the site like a balloon full of blood popping. It is still unknown if the women set off their own bombs or if the kernel ordered their deaths hostages stages remember the death of the female terrorists happening at different parts of the day however everyone vividly remembers it happening they wouldn't wouldn't usually forget. This isn't uncommon in survivors of severe trauma. Accounts from survivors often contradict due to traumatic attic. stressors a traumatic stressor is an event that makes an individual feel as though their life is in danger and they're unable to escape a study study of the Moscow theater crisis done by an SPEC hard of Georgetown. University evaluates this trauma affects survivors Even those hostages not exposed to a lethal gas during the Moscow siege at disassociated from the events referring to them as movie like and surreal even lost the ability to speak for days and develop stutters. Others found their memories felt tampered with and we're unable to remember even their own telephone numbers. It's no wonder that survivors accounts may vary in smaller details while largely agreeing on the events in the already crowded gymnasium. Blood and body parts from the two terrorists women were now l.. Strewn about the room Sergei was ordered to go collect the severed head of one of the women while parents became desperate to get their children out the brutal scene. Somehow the situation had reached a new horrific level the hostages could only pray that the negotiations would at work and though they didn't know it at the time a new hope had arrived on the scene at best lawn school number. One seventy one year-old Doctor Leonid Rochelle came to best lawn as soon as he heard about the attack. He was a revered pediatrician. I and former negotiator for the Moscow theatre siege during the crisis he was able to convince the terrorists to release some of the children. He hoped hoped his past experiences with Chechen terrorists would mean he'd have an immediate rapport so we started negotiating as soon as he arrived. SCHOL ask the Chechens to release the children or at least allow to bring in food on medication but the terrorist terrorist told him that if he got closer than thirty meters to the building they would kill him on sight. It didn't seem like anyone was leaving or entering the school after speaking for some time. The colonel mentioned Dr Rochon he was from the Chechen mountains. Doctor Rochelle chided the colonel off. He knew the mountain people he told him and they would never stoop so low as to harm women and children but the colonel simply responded. That's your opinion and hung up when we're all called him back five minutes later. The colonel acted like the conversation had never for happened and they were back to square one. Doctor Rachelle kept asking the colonel. How many hostages there were? And how many were sick could he bring them medicine. Then he got straight to his own demands he asked the colonel to release all of the ill and all of the children and finally shawl ask for the terrorist demands as well. It was the first time the question had been broached. The colonel told her shawl that the terrorists had one primary. Concession that all Russian troops leave Chechen soil. Uh Dr Scholl made it clear that he would talk to government officials about their demand but that it would take time then. He repeated his questions about releasing the children or bringing them supplies or shawl continued to steer the conversation back to the hostages at any chance he could. He was desperate to keep the colonel on the line to Chisel away at his obstinate but negotiations were going nowhere. It was already nightfall at Best S. lawn and it looked as though hope had disappeared with the sinking Sun. The townspeople is people remain gathered outside as close to the school as they possibly could without getting shot. Many of them had family members even children inside inside. Meanwhile the terrorists continue to fire back the sounds of their machine guns echoing throughout the night. Onlookers couldn't can help but imagine that every shot was hitting their loved ones. The only relief brought brought to the hostages was rainfall that evening soon the sweltering gym cool down and as the temperature settled so did those trapped inside D- as Sergei sat with his family in the dark. Jim He knew the question on his mind the very same one plaguing every person in that room. What new horrors with tomorrow rain? So thanks again for tuning in to hostage next week who who rejoined Sergei and the other hostages at best lawn for the next two days of captivity and the bloody end to the tragedy. 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145 Author Dahlia Adler

What Book Hooked You?

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145 Author Dahlia Adler

"You're listening to what book cooked you. I'm brock shelley. Thank you for listening on this episode. I talked to dolly adler. Learn who i'm sure. Many of you know if you're a part of the white book community <hes> she is a writer herself a big advocate <hes> four four books and she is the editor of a new anthology. His hideous heart coming out from flatiron books on september tenth. History is all about a gallon po thirteen retaliations including the original works for me galaxy poll a great project and i was excited they get to talk to and find out inspiration and just the behind the scene work that you did on this solicited saudi arabia. What book cooked you so. I've been the reader forever but when i think about the one book that really got me excited about waie it's cracked up to be by courtney summers which just has the best the most sharp-tongued smart but vulnerable main character and parker adly and i think for me growing up on and loving babysitters club lovin sweet valley high and all that i kind of didn't realize how much personality and edge a main character and waie could have until i read that and that was like such a lightbulb ullman remain i can love this. I can throw myself into this. I can just be awed by this in a way that i hadn't really been by staff marketing into teams and sell them so cracked up to be by courtney. Summers is like everything to me and so when with this book was it <hes> where you kind of dabbling with why are kind of as you sort of eluded to kind of had your mind made up what why maybe was and so how did you really they come upon this book to give it that chance to have this more eye opening experience through it. I have to be honest. I don't remember what made me pick it up. I always read books for teens wins. I'm the youngest in my house by at six years. Seven grade so sweet valley high is what was lying around when i was five and i was an early reader so that's what i was picking picking up so i was always reading books that were marketed to teens and then the other option i was thinking for a book that hooked me was <hes> sloppy firsts the negative mccafferty which i don't call why just because it wasn't marketed as such. I don't think it's a five book series that goes into her adulthood but it was the same. I'm kind of thing where i was like. Oh a voice like mine. Not you know the perfect wakefield twins you know of sweet valley by it. Somebody who feels like a real person who thinks like i do who talks like i do. <hes> and i don't remember what made me stumble onto that either but i suspect that was the book that made me want to read more teen protagonists outside of the big series i was already reading and then cracked up to be i think i was living in philly at the time and in my ten minute walk in commute to work i used to pass by barnes and noble so you can imagine like if they had it it i was going in there and buying it and that's where i really got into buying reading more waie and seeing what why could be this was i moved to philly at lived there two two thousand eight to two thousand eleven so it was really just as wyatt as we know it. Now was kinda starting out so it wasn't that. I had preconceived notions about why it's that way. Hey was becoming something wildly different in feel like i kind of got there with where a lot of other authors think. Kinda got started on harry potter and twilight. I wasn't a fancy reader so those aren't the books that hooked me though to see contemporary <hes> that was really kind of getting its due and having those voices that loved from me was wonderful because the books that were being hugely marketed to teens weren't of interest to me just because of their genres so <hes> <hes>. I think that's how i sort of got there. I mean i picked up looking to <hes> looking for alaska because it had alaska and the title on kinda thought in hopes it was sat there. I'd never heard of john green like this was early so i'm very grateful for getting me started and ends me going into why with having having the vision of that this is what it was so backing up more to when you were <hes> the the young adult time time period a teenager. What was maybe some of the big books important books that you kind of think back <hes> that you either really loved or had a really a big impact on you so i know it's really not popular to say people really love to hate it and i get y but catcher in the rye was and still is to me. It's just always going to be one of my favorite books. I know what's problematic on zillion levels. I know what's a winding privileged kid. There was something captured in his veto in holden caulfield emotions and worries ends frankly in his expression of mental illness that really resonated with me and i i couldn't believe what could be captured with words at in descriptions of how he thought and how he fell and that was really big to me. I love my first real. Favorite book was a tree grows in brooklyn. Think i read that fifth grade <hes> and that kicked me off on like a book can be you know a literary adult book but have a protagonist who's my age and be awesome but you also got to see her grow into adulthood. Which i thought was very cool about it. <hes> <hes> what else did i love and the heavily problematic obviously had gone with the wind was another fifth grade sixth grade favorite and when i was really really in my teens i was doing school reading. I think the best book that i read in school. What song solomon by toni morrison was my favorite of. My high school assigned reading but like doc. There's nothing i can say i took from that book. I applied in my own work. I was looking for an author and that's it at the stuff that had more like teen protagonists. Were i think fed me as an author more but at the reader <hes> allman was was a definite favorite and then i was reading a lot of check let i know we're not supposed to call at that <hes> but <hes> gene green is doing stuff. I really loved them. I mean it's been amazing meaning to see this resurgence of women's fiction romance like steph on that border with that helen wang an when jasmine gillary and getting staff. It's i just like the romance stuff that set a little more in <hes> career role than friend worlds in whatever it's i feel like there's been a resurgence of the stuff that i grew up reading as a team and i'm really loving seeing that now and then when you kind of i had this idea or i started to pursue writing one. Was that what was kind of your initial story. You felt you needed to tell so. It was really early. I've been writing young adult since i want to say i was like eight and it was from growing up reading babysitters clubs valley hi there i was like so i am an in modern orthodox jewish and i still am i've chosen to keep without observance but and it isn't that i feel restricted by but you live with certain kind of life so i wasn't going out on friday nights because i observed sabbath and i wasn't going to the beach and i wasn't wearing bikinis and i wasn't eating cheeseburgers and it wasn't kissing boys and i just thought that stuff all sounded like so much fun so really all i was doing with my writing in the beginning was kind of trying to live this second life. Living vicariously through the characters were doing things. I couldn't and i wouldn't <hes> so that's where it really started for me and then i didn't didn't try to get published until i was in my mid twenty s because i never wanted to share my work with anyone. I never wanted to show it. I was always nervous about it and then when my husband was in law school we were pretty broke and i was like maybe i should try to make money at this and that's really noble story. Ally i tried tried getting published but that's also when i started putting more pieces of my actual self into stories and my debut behind the scenes <music> centered around the story line of the main character learning that her father has stage four cancer <hes> and that was completely from that happening with me in college which was nice to instead of trying to write to be somebody else to pull pieces of me and put them into characters. I do that a little bit more now and and that's also you know i shipped into queer literature same kind of way and i. I'm really loving learning learning more about myself. As i write you pursue writing you were able to get published but but you've gone farther than <hes> <hes> just become an author and just being someone that will you know re tweet someone else's announcements and things like that. You're really a cheerleader a spokesperson and <unk> advocate <hes> for why especially within <hes> queer books so really what kind of drove you to to do more and take it to that level on say. I really just love books and i really am. I really like i was saying before a bow like harry potter twilight. I had to look for the smaller titles originally because what was really blowing up in y hunger games again missile <unk> ended up reading some of this stuff as an adult but i wasn't finding the things that were really of my interest marketed so i had to go hunting and i learns to hunt and i learned to find titles that aren't getting so much attention from publishers and to try to give them a a little bit more of a platform so the other people like me who are looking for quieter bucks or looking for contemporary who are looking for her to find representation who are looking for good representation. I wanted to you make that more accessible to others because to me. It was definitely something that i had to work for but i was also coming from a publishing background. My first job out of college allege was an editorial assistant at simon and schuster in adult books but i already really liked reading teen bucks so i used to. I go down to the kids floor. Take books off the shelves and i found a lot of smaller titles that way so i was kind of already getting into it that way and then buying discount buffs i sort of stumbled into all these smaller quieter titles and i wanted to somebody who was talking about them and thankfully there are a lot of people out there who want to hear about them and and they got interested in me as a blogger them barnes and noble offered me a position as a blogger so i've gone to write about them which was wonderful and then i sort <hes> tumbled into queer let and found that even as you know numbers were getting higher in terms of what's getting published. People weren't necessarily finding out about it. Publishers weren't necessarily putting that much behind it and even publishers were putting allowed behind the books. They were often sort of burying the quickness and kind of. I don't know if they helped readers would find it later. They just wanted to markets in the biggest audience possible and people would learn about it later but i think it's is really important for people to be able to find those books and not everybody is going to stumble upon later so i made l._g._b._t._q. Reads in two thousand sixteen to be a site that was sort of <hes> kind of a recommendation site for queer lead for all ages and hopefully it's a place that people can find a lot of bucks that that really aren't getting a lot of buzz as we are as books at all and it's it's been really great. There's been really nice response from from a lot of people. I've been really lucky to be able to reach an icy libraries. Use it as a recommendation to will all that's really fantastic but yeah i think it really came from actually just honestly being interested in the quieter amid lists. I'm an wanting to do something with that. You know when you love books. Anyone who loves books knows how badly want to talk about them. You apple podcast about what the deal like. You know. The dream is just getting to share that lab so i'm very lucky to be able to do that. Do you think your <hes> recommendation recommending books and <hes> promoting books has fed your reading life or has your reading life really driven and how you're you're being why a blog and the reads basically i'm saying doreen more now because you're kind of incrusted upon to recommend books like this or was it just kind of natural. I definitely pray our ties. More books. I think are important defines an ion ryan so i wouldn't say that every single book that i choose to read because i'm dying to read it. <hes> you know they'll be books. That aren't necessarily my thing aren't my genre but they had sort of a very marginalized point of view and i really wanna read it in love it so i can talk about it a lot and sometimes that's fantastic and works out great. I mean once in future by amy rose. Kapeta inquiry mccarthy is sci-fi would not have all been my thing but i read it and i loved it now. I can talk about it all the time and make sure that the people who needs the representation can in that means a lot to me to be able to do. Would it be the book that i primarily contemporary reader would have chosen now but i'm super super glad that i felt propelled to by the different jobs that i have and so that's a big deal to me. I am trying to read read more adult these days though because i feel like logging for barnes and noble team blog is it's wonderful but it has so heavily informs my reading such that y as become like ninety five percent of what i read and i would. I just want to read more. You know some reading a little bit more middle great. I'm reading a little bit. More adult joined a book club in my neighborhood knbr. Ahead may always take adult so i read it that way but blogging definitely has informants my book choices and i'm trying to make it inform them just a little bit less. They're so beyond this being an author <hes> being a blogger now you're also putting on your editor hat with the new collection that you have coming out his hideous heart. I commend on september tenth so let's talk about that. What is this anthology about god so i love this anthology. His hideous chart is coming out from flat iron september tenth. It's all reimagining of edgar. Allan poe works <hes> stories and a couple of poems uh-huh. Although only the raven was redone as a poem tessa grads reworked annabel lee to be a beautiful story and what i really love about the way that it came out as i gave no instructions other than out like try for this word count and everybody came back kind of telling their stories from a different perspective and po had because post protagonists are mainly white men and not a single person wrote back with a white male main character. That's just how it worked out so you got to see all these stories through different gazes different lenses and tweaked a little bit and the hearts of the stories in the vibes of the stories are really there but there are different genres within a couple of people did happing stories in there some historical circle fantasy items contemporary. There's some real horror. I mean it's really the mix up and i think it all goes together. Any part of what an editor has to do kind of order those stories in a way that works but i thought it made for a collection of really really interesting takes on po that felt really true to the original while giving really different spins that i think what i love is that i think it will really allow teens and i hope that this will be in school. I think it will really allows students to have poked field more relevant and to be able to see themselves in classic literature more than they've been able to in the past and i love that about it and the original stories are in there too. I think for school libraries it's really fantastic to be able to compare and contrast and see how changing the perspective makes the difference in changing the genres makes the difference in all that. I think it's so cool how it came out. So how was this a project act that you got involved in one and to lead. This is a little bit of an embarrassing story but i never now again and i post questions on twitter and this time i tweeted if you could have any author retail any story. What would you mash up innocent people the game all their responses and somebody a teacher named jaclyn said that she would love to see in a girl allergy with and she named three why authors i and i was like love that idea would kill to see this way you know tiffany jackson <unk> jato and stephanie keene doing tell tale heart and <hes> you know tiffany staff each responded i would do that. I would do that and then some other way. Author started tweeting at me. I would be into that so i was like okay britain. I realized oh no wait. This is going to happen. I'm gonna make this happen. So i jumped off line. I got in touch with the rest of my favorite are thriller authors authors including one from that original tweet. She had really she mentioned kandara blake. Which i thought was a great choice. I love kendra story in this collection <hes> <hes> and that's how i went ahead and put it together so it's really a combination of my favorite authors in the you know all the kind of possible muscle sub genres of co with fantasy thriller horror. It's everyone who really nails it for me. <hes> and it's funny because i'm really odd personnel. John rowe is coming in from writing contemporary romance. Although i did end up writing romantic contemporary china twisted story <hes> so i i think it still stayed pretty true to me by <hes> i was definitely a funny choice by the luck of the tweet i credit myself with my lineup because and i can't really good about who put together in their absolutely and so for comedy outsider that hasn't been editor doesn't really know what goes into the process of collecting some might think it's just the authors hand in their stories and you staple them together and send them off so really what was your role as the editor <hes> when pulling this together to get it out so it is really clear. Actually a lot of people think there's not much to it and it's so far from the truth so i mean first of all. You're the one for me because they're reimagining. I had to discuss what stories as everybody was gonna cover and make sure that there wasn't overlap and make sure that we were covering all all the really big ones. I thought were important to be in there. I mean the first step is really doing that lineup and someone getting contracts out to everybody. I mean so there's a lot of technical logistical where you also. I did you know finances. Taxes sent out forms <hes> <hes> i mean all that stuff is a big deal but it's really the first big thing is getting those contributor is on board and then you know making sure that they each have their story they were doing and they know that they can bounce any questions about it off yield and they turn in their stories. <hes> i edited each of the stories i sent them on to the publishing publishing editor who then further edited and then on the go between for every level of that so when i passed gauge so when copy edit happen when i ask ages come i'm in i'm going back and forth with all authors and you know on the go-to if they have any issues with the edits that were made if they have any questions on the one collecting everybody's edits back from them and putting it all on one central document and sending it in <hes> all that stuff is me and then there's also the step you can and do you wanna do so. I commissioned readers guy because i thought that was a really important thing to have so you know i dealt with the really really wonder foale teacher who did that. Rachel alpine's recommends <hes> and she sent a bunch of questions for each one so then i sent them out to each author which ones would would you like included in the readers guide and i you know whatever opinions i had an. I pick them out and send them to flat iron. I'm not even done doing that and then then you have all the publicity staff in the marketing staff and all that's a big deal on its aw everything that comes with doing a novel less also editing all these stories plus. Also villages were also every single time. You're dealing with a round of edits. You're dealing with all your contributors at its as well. You know. You're not doing them for them but you you are a go-between or all of them so it's <hes> very time consuming as things happen having written your own books and now being editor of this book was there i'll say did you feel more pressure or more anxiety. If you wanna put it that way about this process at times because you had all these parties involved in and sort of coming to you as the point person oh yeah i mean it's a mixed bag because on on the one hand i picked these authors because i love them. I think they're fantastic. I mean i will fully cop to that. Most of the stories had pretty minimal editing just because they came in search so <hes> you know on the one hand. I wasn't particularly worried about the contents of the book because it's only one thirteenth plus an author's note mine fine <hes> so that's great but i felt like i feel like i'm responsible for the reviews being good for the publicity being on target for the events being good for the marketing happening throughout and you think because there's so many people involved in <unk> in in an individual anthology and i've been in three others as well so i think the hope is always that your contributors are going to be as excited about it as you you and marketed as much as you but the reality is. They have their own work. They have their own books with their names on the cover. Your name is on the cover of this one. So this really is on you so a lot of it isn't a <hes> thirteen people sharing an equal excitement that you initially think it's gonna be and like of course not you're in on the cover. You said cathy advanced. That's so there is a lot of anxiety in wanting to make sure that everybody is really happy and satisfied without coming out 'cause they put their work <hes> but there is definitely some calmness in the content itself being a group effort and in just knowing that it's good and i mean the publishing partner you have makes it very different and i can't imagine like working with flat iron was amazing with sarah barley with the whole team. So that makes a really big difference as well. I mean the publicity has been phenomenal these last couple of months so i mean everything that they're working on behind the scenes. Israeli great in that also makes a big difference but it's a it's a learning curve. I'm i'm very curious. What it's going to be like doing it again. Now with everything that i know behind me was purposeful that there are thirteen stories and thirteen kind of has this creepy scary connotation as a number. It was so purposeful that there are thirteen story stories that the proposed they'll actually says thirteen parentheses of course but credit for that actually goes to american icon who is one of the contributors on on one of my best friends and when i was discussing putting together this proposal with her and she mentioned that and i was like oh yes obviously yes very purposeful. Thank you america and while. I'm sure you had familiarity with ground poed. You feel like you have much more kind of a maybe a college level course understanding we now of this whole process. Oh yeah but honestly i think of the way this book came out as contributing scholarship on edgar allan powell. I mean this could mean with is really kind of required study for if you're really really interested to see how his work would look from different angles. I mean i think it's i definitely learned a lot more inbred stories. I haven't read in a long time and it was very funny to have all the contributors coming back and being not all a bunch of you. Did you realize the original this is like thirty pages of description and a page of plot and mike you the impression that he makes as an author with so incredible and the vibes that he leaves you with in the atmosphere that skips junior brain that i think even though a lot of us haven't really looked at co and twenty twenty years you got the sense that you knew exactly what the story was in in your head. It was tightly plotted and beautifully described in everything because has that is how it sickened than you read the actual text of the story and it's not the pacing at all that you remember that i remembered <hes> so it's it's pretty wild the difference impression from from childhood to now but it was it was cool reading it again and seeing what was what i remember what was different than <hes> what will be different for people who are first experiencing pettway. It'll be some of those as we end this whole process while it may have had its is challenges. You liked it enough that you're doing it again because of that. You're doing an anthology surrounded around. Shakespeare called <hes> this way madness lies. So what is it do you have any clues are nuggets that you can kinda. Give us as far as <hes> the process of this one so there's you know i got to skip all the beginner staff at <unk> putting our proposal. I mean i'm mean it when i say working flat. Let iron has been wonderful. It's been really smooth and thankfully. They seem to like working with me much as i do with them so i had lunch with my editor and i mentioned that i wanted to do this and immediately threatens because that's really my favorite part of all of this <hes>. I think some people thank you just like pick your friends or you can bestsellers but but i feel like i this is the part. I feel like i am. I don't wanna say uniquely good at but like okay okay with uniquely good at i feel like i'm very good at this part. Knowing who will be good at these kinds of things face on the way they already right or short story experience. I read a lot of anthologies policies so i really had a lot of thoughts for who i thought would be really killer retailing shakespeare and thankfully you sarah had a lot of excitement about the same names and that's kinda how this one just came about so it was much easier start because we built up such report about doing the one i have to say. I think it was an unusually smooth experience though we'll see if the second one does the same way but in i think only one author didn't make story by initial deadline then three week later like that's what we're talking about. It's been such a wonderfully smooth experience in. I know that's not always what it's like that we'll see the madness is is is a little different but i'm really excited about it and it's something i was talking about for a while with <hes> a few of the contributors wtrw so lily anderson who has already retold shakespeare in the only thing worse than me. Is you lindsay smith. Who i i mean i love but i also i really wanted somebody in the shakespeare thought would go fearlessly dark which if you've read her darkly beating heart you know that there's kind of no limits on that <hes> so i really wanted her and she's a very good friends of mine and annemarie macklemore who was just i think the most beautiful writer and why <hes> <hes> who i knew would do a wonderfully queer version of something says she's doing midsummer night's dream because of course she is so i had been talking with those three about it for a while and then when it happened it came together with everybody else but <hes> but i can tell you put it together. I didn't put his hideous hearts together with any sort of agenda other than i want my favorite authors in pose on ras but was shakespeare because we've already seen at retold so many different ways wasn't present exact that kind of approach so i really wanted. I went in wanting to achieve with at the same thing that i felt like his hideous heart organically achieved with the different perspectives so for example. I knew shakespeare. I definitely wanted a trans die author because there's so many crossdressing stories and i was like i want a trans guy author to take take ownership of one of those bright he wants so austin chant was i mean he did <hes> transpired retailing peter darling. It's not why i mean up. Peter pan called peter darlene is not lie but he's just brilliant and i was like he is who i want and i'm going to have him do this and he is doing walk night which i'm so excited about <hes> so i went about it a little more that way which is not something i've considered with his hideous art as much but i am very excited or how i anything that way met miss lives is gonna come out. I hope that as the same sort of denver shakespearean perspectives as it's hideous heart had with pow i mean it's time until just based on the authorship and what people are writing. I can tell you it well but it definitely was a little bit more on put together with that nice wonderful so a few questions <unk> as we wind down <hes> the first one being. What is your favorite movie. That's based on a book. I went to l. a. Confidential which is book by james our i. I know it's not why i but it's just been a favourite move me of mine for a very a long time. <hes> i just think it's wonderful and i love the war and <hes> and then i don't wanna talk about the actors in it but once upon a time that was a draw but you know that was nine hundred ninety seven and now it's twenty nineteen. We know some different things but that's it for why. I'm just really enjoying the moves that are happening. Now i really i mean it's all the boys i've loved before. It was really fun so i think that's my favorite of of the new way of wii movies and then the next question and i'm interested to hear this because of just how widely you read. Is there a book or a series that you're willing to admit you either never read or never finished yup harry potter. I know i shouldn't be as willing to admit it but at like as i see what what harry potter house is your character in in like every interview in every panel. I'm just trying to really upfront about it. I don't know i don't know the answer like if they're jerks. I guess they're slithering like working on learning piano. I will only costs and not having read harry potter good and then finally what is the last great book that you've read and you can name more than one. If you have to just feel you can't choose. I'm trying to think of like the most standout of the standout end one. That's really coming to mind for me. Can i name one. That isn't out yet. Sure is at the last true poets of the sea by julia drake and so that's a that's coming out. I think october first and i just loved it so much it it reminded me of the weight of the stars by kayla from and how to make a wish by actually harran blake both of which are f f romances but it really had the found family aspect back mental health steph that he'll from work has <hes> and then the coastal feel <unk> and i just thought it was so special and beautifully written written and she's a debut so that's always out sightings me because then i'm just thrilled for everything that they have coming next. I do want to mention one. That was already published so i will go with my favorite wrong calm. I read in a while which is hot dog girl by jennifer duggan. It's just really fun. <hes> it's also by main character but i i think it's really fun things with friendship with summer it just it brought me a lot of joy and i really it's the kind of book where i just hope we keep keep seeing more like it all the time well though you i wanna thank you so much for joining me <hes> for telling your storing your journey. His hideous heart is a book that i'm very very much looking forward to it comes out september tenth from fluttering books and i thank you for your work on this and i wish you all the best with it. Thank you so much and thank you so much for having me. I love listening to this podcast. I was very honored to be asked and that does it for this episode. Thank you for all your adler for joining me again. Her anthology collagen that she worked edit his hideous heart retailing's of coq classics comes out from flatiron books on september ten. This is going to be a great book that i think could be really be used in schools as dahlia mentioned breathe new life into some oppose work so hope you'll pick it up and i hope you'll check out some of the other great interviews i've had <hes> with a authors and people i'm brock shelley.

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Leo Laporte - The Tech Guy: 1727

"Louis. PODCASTS, you love from people you trust. This is. This is Leo. LaPorte and this is my tech guy podcasts. The show originally aired in the premiere networks. All. Over the country yesterday on Saturday September twelfth. Twenty. Twenty. This is episode. One. Thousand Seven hundred twenty seven. Wow, enjoying. The Tech podcast comes to you from twits last past studios you're focused on security but are your employees last pass can sure they are making access and authentication seamless whether employees are working in the office or remotely visit last pass dot com slash twit to learn more. This episode of the tech is brought to you by my pseudo life is better without spam ads based on activity hacked info or the risk of identity theft. Take Back Control of your privacy with my Suda download the my pseudo APP today m. y. s. you do from the APP store or Google play or go to my pseudo dot com slash twit to learn more. And by Simply, safe. 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There'll be a new IPAD NEW IPAD air. There will be something like the ipad pro type, c connector and stuff upgrades upgrades. Upgrades. Also says no iphone twelve although there's there's a debate among rumor mongers you don't WanNa. See Rumor mongers fighting. No not a pleasant sight. There's a debate amongst rumor mongers. It's a series six watch. Okay. But Macho West seven than understand. Mike, Confusion there's a debate amongst rumor mongers about whether we'll see the iphone twelve Tuesday or not normally would right September iphone. But apples already told us. The IPHONE will be delayed somewhat by COVID, nineteen manufacturing issues. So my guess. My guess is Tuesday. They won't announce IPHONES. But what they might talk about. They might announce I feel like we're very close to Iowa fourteen. We got yet another update over the weekend. Where I guess on Thursday Friday and then Maybe, watch os seven to go along with the new watch and then yeah usually the the two go together features in new watch Os. Matched by features in the new IOS for the. Phone. New IPAD new IPAD OH s right. So we'll see all of that. we see big Cerdan the this is the big question mark because apple we know this year that gives us three months. Before on September October November. December. So sometime between now and December thirty first will ship. Ships a funny word announce. A new macbook. With or MAC something amac with apple chips, apple made chips inside. There's some speculation the Tuesday might be the day. They'll at least talk about that. So we'll. Watch with interest. I got all excited. Because for the first time in a long time, I received an invitation to the apple event. Then I realized well, there's not really anything that I can't do anyway this streaming. You too. Thanks for the invite. But Hey, you know it's the thought that counts. Then, I got really excited. Because I got an invitation to a briefing to that means, I would be back on the inside. And then shortly, thereafter, I got an invitation not to. Whoops email saying no no, no that was a mistake turns out. It wasn't I'm not gonNA take it. Personally they that a lot of people because the the briefing time was the announcement time. So there's something went wrong with email you know how that happened. I think it'll be a separate iphone event next month. That's my guess. and. Might even be a separate MAC event. In, November why not? No one's going anywhere. These are all virtual events anyway why not? But that's not what I want to talk about today I'll talk about that next week. 'cause you see what I have here in my hot little hands. It's a cute little device. Looks like a book. Looks like a little book it opens up this is the new Microsoft duo which came I ordered it. The minute they made it available and it came on Thursday and I've had lots of time. To play with it the surface duo. And I was very intrigued by this because you know we're talking a lot about these days about phones with A. Larger footprint. You know how can you get bigger? Than the big six point one inch or six point four inch screens. The glass slabs were all used to get bigger than that. And we'll one way to do. It would be to have an unfolding phone and Samsung. Does that they actually have to fold in the flip. Microsoft decided to go a different way they decided to do a hinged device. That has two screens. So when you open it up, it's like a little book. Little. With two screens on it. But it's still an android phone first android phone ever from Microsoft, which by itself is a kind of interest. And then it has some smart interesting smart. Ideas, for instance, the two screens can kind of. You can have a an application span, two screens. For most applications really just looks awful. Or you can have the two different APPS, on the two different screens, which is Kinda cool. and then some apps like the The Amazon kindle APP have been specially adapted. To work with the two screens, actually the kindle APP is kind of the perfect example because it looks sis looks so much like a little book and the kindle APP now looks like it's just a little. It's a little book in my hand and actually I, really like it. This is the most expensive kindle ever, but it's really good. I really like it. Microsoft also has an interesting idea called groupings where you can group to APPs together. So for instance I have a chess APP on one page. Little. Chessboard on the other page, a chest book and I can use the two together. That's actually a really nice. Lineup Kinda Kinda. Works. you could do it with maybe a book, your reading, and one note it's hard to come up with use cases for this Microsoft showed a few. It's kind of Nice because you can have your your email. In on on one page. Be Looking at the list of emails, and then when you open it, you can have it open on the other page. So in order to do that I, guess you let me see now. When I'm playing with the biggest problem comes up. Which is frankly That There's pro there's something wrong with the software. In a word in a nutshell. It doesn't always do what you expect. I've had a number of times where the thing just freezes and doesn't respond couple of times I've had actually reboot the machine and this even after. They pushed an update. So the first thing that happens when you get this little. New, it's not a phone Microsoft says little pocket computer. The first thing that happens has fingerprint reader on the side there unlock. The first thing that happens is You get an update and that apparently helps a little bit. But it's still a little bit buggy. Okay. That's fine. I'm sure they can fix that. That's just software. Battery Life is surprisingly good considering the size of the battery is a fairly small battery, but it's actually not bad. It actually is usable I kinda like that. Scott through the day with me no problem. There is one other issue though that you're GonNa see and all the reviews and I'm GonNa have to. Go along with it, which is a terrible camera. There's a single camera lens on it, which is on the screen. If you WANNA take a picture with it, you have to fold it over and pointed. it's it's it's an it would be fine if it were good camera. It'd be cool. It'd be cool but it's not. It's just a terrible camera. So so that kind of takes away some of the fun. Anyway I I. Should. You buy this? No. Absolutely. Not Fourteen hundred dollars forget about it. Forget about it. Should not. By this on the other hand as I had hoped, it's interesting. There's some little issues like I'm not used to holding a phone like a book. It's kind of you know you can't hold it very well with one hand. I. Guess You can is like a little hole a little book. Think of is a little skinny one of those notebooks you see in the bookstore that's the closest analogy. Man I want like this so much. I'm going to I'M GONNA put my those Sim my little, my little salmon it. And I'm going to. Play with it and give it some time because I bought it I spent a lot of money on it. Now. And maybe it'll get better I. think it will get better with time and you know everybody said and I think they weren't too far off never by the first Microsoft product of anything right never get the I if anybody everybody the first apple product either big as the bugs to work out and you can't you don't want to be the person to figure that all out. So don't be don't be the Guinea pig. Don't be the first to buy. But I will be for you. I will do that for you and you can. You can watch. You can watch along with me. I will let you know maybe the next maybe the next one, maybe surface due to. Sow Close. And you know I think suffer gets better. I am I am actually glad I haven't. Can I say that I could say that I am actually glad I have it. With its even with its imperfections. At, least it's something New Right? Something different. So. iphone perhaps on Tuesday perhaps next month something else next Tuesday from Apple. Microsoft jumping the gun a little bit with a new duo. There's the note the New Samsung Galaxy Twenty. Very nice people like it. Incremental improvement over the there's this galaxy full which I'm not going to buy I don't think folding screens of there yet that's why I thought. The duo might be interesting to screens with a hinge. So there's a there's a gap between the two. There's little hairline gap but still. It's kind of like two screens. But not. Eighty ask Leo that's the phone number. let's run down the list do not by the duo. You're going to want a new iphone if if you're more than two years old with your old iphone, you're GonNa want a new Samsung. Note Twenty. If you're more than two years I'm going to stick with the no ten I don't feel any need upgrade. There's a new Motorola Jeanine. That's a good choice for anybody who wants to budget android phone. You know the best android from those probably the Pixel for eight which came out a couple of weeks ago. That's really great. Black people. That's the Google. Pixel. Ladies Gentlemen. Accept no substitutes Schmidt that's Kimmy. Shafir. The unbreakable. Phone Angel. How you doing, Kimmy, getting closer to breaking I think. Are Kimmy. So world is burning its twilight. Twilight. Zone. Right now. Hall man it's yeah Wednesday was nuts. Yeah. The as the sun did not shine. You've all seen probably the pictures from San Francisco of the red. World. We have that here too it was. It was like weird it was read all day was it's weird. It made for some amazing photo opportunities, but that's about it. The funny thing is I think a lot of people were frustrated if can't if you try to take it with your phone, your phones too smart because the skies not read that's a that's a blue sky so it fixes it. I took a photo with the my Nikon and it came out. Amazing a good camera. We'll let you choose the white balance and you can look the way it's supposed to. because it's not that's not outdoors baby. That's weird. Yeah. It was very strange. So Anyway, I'm glad you sir well. Served. We have a air purifier in your in your room. We have one in mind I helped it's on hi there. you every once in a while you hear a great whooshing sound. As. It's cleaning out because there's still a lot of smoke in the air affect the air quality is awful is was was almost three hundred on Wednesday to Thursday. But it's now a mere hundred eighty. Four hundred Zlatko Week and a half ago. On that purple, Air Yeah, I bought. And I'll. I'll have to report back on it but I bought myself a purple. So I can have a little censor out here. So we'll know what it's like locally. Because the apple Air Quality Index turns out to be from Sebastian Pool for for Petaluma not that near that it could be different there. Yeah. Who should I start the show with Dennis in Marina Delray or as they say today Denny Hello Denise. Before, and I love Kim's wonderful laugh. I. Love. It just brightens. Today's. She's great. Anyway you've helped me before I'm the photographer and Marina del Rey but I've got a major. Major problem. I yeah. You if you can't help me then. You're my only hope. You're I've researched this for days on Google I am running desktop with windows ten. And about a month or so ago I noticed that the icons had little green circle for the check mark on there. Which is one drive and? Messing up my system because I use light broom and light room didn't recognize. and. So I'd uninstalled one drive because I've got this thing backed up six ways to Sunday. And I turned off sinking turned off backup. And anytime I put an icon on the desktop. It shows up that its owner slash dennis slice creative cloud slash desktop. Thank you adobe. Well I don't know if that's adobe or or Microsoft. Creative cloud is a do. Baby. why would they do you? Do you pay for dobies, creative cloud, and the cloud storage you probably do. That's pretty much the only way to know you don't know. So you have light rain, but you don't have creative cloud. Well I. Mean it's it's. I mean I have a creative cloud do. Pay For storage right I don't put anything in the cloud I use the Thinks you are. Things are actually it sounds like confusion. So, there are ways to I think you need to rebuild your icon cash? So I think that's part of the problem. Is is that it's got it's got just it's just an indicator on the I can although you said, it does report that it's part of the creative cloud in the ownership. Quick thing if I may hold on I'm GonNa take a break. We've got Scott Wilkinson coming up but hang on I'll talk to you. Leo LaPorte the Teke. Go so I think the first thing to do. And if I if I created a new icon and put it on the desktop, the property say that discreet in creative cloud. Yeah. So that's strange. I don't. I don't know what's going on exactly except I would go into your adobe creative cloud settings. And make sure that it doesn't think it's sinking. Now this is for even for icons at are in photos folder or is this just for your? Anything on the desktop anything just because it's on the desktop. I This sounds like it's a registry screw up. So that's. Dobie about that, and you know their technical. Well I'm Gonna I'll tell you what I'm GonNa. Put a link to an article Called how to remove one. The one drive check marks and I in the put that. I understand the program turned that got rid of them. But if you but I think this is related because I think you're. Unless. When you say so it's in the properties. It says it's adobe creative cloud is this for photos Oviedo says create if with be the same for a yeah. But it would be at same for textile or is it just for for images? Any anything on the desktop even textiles? Yeah. Wow. That's weird. So he may be an unsolvable problem and before it solvable no no insolvable but it's just it's strange. Twilight Zone. Yeah. Time if you're if you're interested I've got a palm trio of palm. Pilot that you know with the old camera I mean it's in perfect condition if you would like to have that for your music, I have mine. So I appreciate it. Thank you. But I haven't right back here I've got all of the palms so they're in my museum. And everything generous I. appreciate it. Dennis. You're very kind but no, maybe maybe somebody else would want them because I, already have. My my palms I saved him because I loved those guys they were great. Yeah Gibson still has a few. PALM SEVENS IN HIS FREEZER Because he liked him so much. He froze them. So the batteries wouldn't decay so that he could have them for the rest of his life, but he doesn't use it anymore because he's got an iphone. Thanks, a lot. Good to talk to you. Thank you and keep an eye peeled for that one that I bet you there's a way to fix that perhaps rebuilding the shell icon cash except it's not just icons. It's also the properties. WHY IS ADOBE? That seems like a bad thing adobe doing is a. Room and say you know any of the photos on the desk because they keep photos on the desk to work on? It doesn't seem. Yeah, there's something going on with Adobe Adobe? Creative cloud is a nightmare. I'm really disappointed with what they've done with that. You may remember that people who had a photo light room on their ipads lost all their local photos and settings with an update There's something going on with adobe. I. Would go into your settings for creative creative cloud has gone your adobe that adobe APP. 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Hey I got a very interesting, very basic question from a listener Stanford Brown and I thought you know what? If he has this question others probably due to so I'd love to address it. He was looking at an AV receiver. The den on a VR x forty, seven, hundred. which is specified to have. Five. Point one point four or seven point one point two Channel Three d audio support and he wrote me said what does that third digit? Through five point one point four, seven point. One point to what what is that third digit. Well The answer's easy but if you don't know then you don't know. So I'm about to tell you here it is that third digit has to do with how many speakers you can have overhead. We've talked about Dolby at most right. For for many years now we've had surround sound. We've had speakers in the front. We've had speakers around the side we've even had speakers in back. But we haven't had speakers overhead until a few years ago and that that is the most common thing. The implementation of that it's called Dobie atmos-. And so that's what that third number is. The first number is the number of speakers you have around you in a typical surround format three in the front two on the side, maybe two in the rear. That's five or seven speakers. Point one is the number of sub woofer channels you have. So typically won't have one sub Woofer in your house. Some people have more than one and I'll get to that in a minute. And then the third number is the number of speakers you have overhead and it could be in this case the dead on receiver has nine channels of amplification and you can split them up. You could have five channels around you in the surround plus four channels overhead. So there are there are nine equal channels you could use them. You want you can't even send two of them to another room. As as a zone used to do zone one in two. Yeah. So this is kind of like that. Exactly exactly. But if you want to have an asthma system in your main room and your main zone you can either have five speakers around you and four overhead or seven speakers around you and to overhead. Now I I wrote Stanford back and I said I explained this and I said I personally would rather have four speakers overhead and five around. than seven surrounds and to overhead because. When things fly overhead helicopters, rockets whatever you know. You want to have a sense of them going front to back or back to front. And you can't do that with just two speakers overhead. So. And and the human ability to localize sound behind. You is not as good as localising sounds in front of you. Therefore, I don't think that there's that much good use for having to speakers behind you and two speakers kind of a little bit behind into the sides I think five channels around you is fine. And having four above is really good. So that's what I recommended to him. Now, here's another thing that that's confusing this dead on receiver is specified as a nine point two channel receiver. And you might very well think and rightly. So wait a minute five point. One point four means one sub Woofer but this is nine point two, two sub. woofers is better than now known on here. Knows that sky. Well, here's the deal the soundtrack. There's a difference between the signal what is coming in from the content, how the content was created. Versus how it's played back. And so this receiver when it says nine point two, it means that it has two sub woofer outputs. So. You could connect to sub woofers two it directly to these two outputs. But those to outputs Kerry exactly the same signal no no, it's not a problem. Okay. All it's. Confusing. Because you see nine point two and if you understand this at all, you know, okay nine point two means nine main channels and two sub channels. But then you see these numbers five point one, point four, some point one point two and you go wait a minute. Why is there a point one? In one case in point two in the other case? Well, one has to do with the content. And all content that we receive has only one sub for channel one or sometimes called an l. f. e., your low frequency effects channel occasionally, it carries explosions and here's very low freak. Here's nutty question. And you have too many speakers. I. The short answer is no no I I once went to I think it was an a es show many years ago, and they had a demonstration with a room with something like a hundred speakers in Germany. and. They had him on all the walls, all the ceilings, and on the floor in the floor, you need some sort of special crossover CS. Speakers you do yeah. Because you have to say you guys do this you guys do that. You're in charge of. The atmosphere. Is wonderfully designed to actually take advantage of however many speakers you have it doesn't care. That's the beauty of what's called object oriented audio. So it Dolby atmos- had has a instruction coming from its bitstream from the content that says this the sound should be coming from the low upper left corner of the room. Okay. Well, what speakers do I have? I have this speaker in that speaker so I'll put the sound in these speakers so that that sound appears to be coming from the upper left corner of the room. So that's the beauty of Dobie at MOS is that it's object based and you can put speak you can put a sound anywhere in the room and it'll figure out based on what speakers you actually have installed watch speakers should act. That's cool. So it actually. Does the job for you. It does the job for you don't have to worry about it. With channel based systems like seven point one, five, point one surround sound system. The the mixer had to figure out. Well, okay. They better have these speakers set up or I'm not going to be. They're not going to hear what I intend. With dolby at most doesn't matter you can just put. You can just put your sound wherever you want it and the Dolby Atma system will say, okay, I need to put some of the sound in that speaker and a little bit of sound in that speaker. Because when you set the system up, you tell the system, what speakers you have, and then it figures out how to use them. So it's very cool. It's very cool system. But I wanted to try and make the difference between the signal itself which has only one sub for channel. And a receiver that you'll see many receivers say nine point two. And you go wait two sub woofers. No, there's only one sub for Channel of information, but it's going to two different sub woofers if you have to connect it. And having two sub woofers is a good thing because it'll. It can smooth out the base response in your room. Okay, okay. Yeah you don't want I mean it's not directional, but you don't want it to all come from under Your Sofa. Well that's true and and you can energize certain modes in the room where you sit here and it's really booming. You saw. Oh where's the base that? Scott Wilkinson read his stuff at tech five dot com. You'RE GONNA he's a contributor there. You can also hear every week on the Tech Guy Show thank you, Scotty or Home Theater Geek Lille deport the Tech Guy. Oh Little Scotty Auto. So I, turned down the gain a little bit that it looks really nice now. Yeah. I like it now save at As a special good special extra good. I will save that as A. Keep it that way you're the you're the guy, I mean you. Calibrate and all that stuff. So you know. You know what she looked like, but I think that. You like it a little darker. Like I always don't want it to be too flat. I, like Mabus. Of course what I see on my screen is different than what you see as it goes through the Internet and. Internet I'll tell you Internet Gosh Darn New Internet you. So. You can this again for the top Yep how? Good. This all yours now to. Thank you Hobie now I'm dead on. And also Dobie atmos- is incredible. It was the biggest. I was the biggest critic of Dobie and sound core infiniti pro. Proved me ignorant I don't know about sound core Infiniti pro. OR INFO INFAMY I don't know what that is. Coby be tell me. But. Dobie at most isn't credible I totally agree with you on that. To. Tokyo Tony What did I change? What I used change my image. It's an APP called. Webcam settings? Which has nice. Set of controls an fact I can tell you I'll bring up the settings panel has exposure time and gain brightness contrast. Sharpness white balanced temperature. it has you can. You can zoom pan and tilt camera. backlight compensation it's it's a really nice program. And that's what I use. A doctor mom grandma, what is the best setting on the receiver to maximize the spoken word over sounds a find that it's sometimes hard to hear dialogue music and background? Yeah. It's a very good point I'm not I don't remember whether the Yamaha's do I know the den on has a dialogue enhancer. Circuit. One thing you can do is go into the menu system and boost the level of the of the center. Channel. To a little bit too to whatever degree you think is necessary couple DB maybe. and that will certainly help. You might also this May or may not practice probably wouldn't help. So never mind. but. Boosting the center channel, and if it has some sort of dialogue enhancement function, you might turn that on. But boosting the center channel is what I do I actually have my center channel boosted by a couple of degree. You couple DB you have to go into the menu system into the speaker sub menu. Probably. To find that. Let's see. PHOENIX WARP says not sure if you saw that, but Sonos has. an exclusive deal with Kia that has I- Kia only speakers. I have not heard about that. They're called the CIM phonics off to look into that. That's that's very good. Thank you dif. Oh sound core is anchor. Oh. Okay. All right I somehow hadn't remembered that. Do, they have a three D sound system. I'll have to look into that. He beat master exactly right Dr Mom Grandma if there if it's a Nolan Christopher Nolan movie, there is no fixed. He has the worst mix when it comes to dialogue versus other sounds you're exactly right about that I noticed that as. Well, we'll have to. Wait for the top if Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Eighty, eight, eighty, eight. Ask Leo the phone number. Let's go to line three that would be fill and our vodka California Hello Phil. Julio. Actually it's Colorado got. Yeah. It is. Isn't it just a Typo there? You're right vodka cholerae. Okay. Absolutely. Thank you for taking my call and it's great to talk to you again to talk to you. I have two short questions for you concerning VPN Okeydokey, you have recommended express VPN, and I know that's a sponsor of years before you have to say it. I I still have to say it. It's a sponsor. I have high speed Internet from comcast and I, and I have expressed VPN on my laptop and on my tablet. Okay. When I run a speed test on my tablet, which is wireless. I'm getting like over hundred gigabits per second megabits. Bits what am I saying And that's about the limit of what you can get on Wi fi. So that's good. That's good. Now when I activate express VPN, it goes down to somewhere around fifty to sixty. And I'm wondering what's up with that that's normal. VPN's going to slow you down because you're going. From your two hundred megabit comcast connection now you're going out. into the Internet through the VPN to wherever your VPN server is, and now if you just let most express McCain does this but I would imagine most. A consumer VPN's do this. If you just let them use the Server Express VPN. As a technology called, I can't smart selectors something that chooses the fastest available server but you're going to be limited because you're going through an extra layer right immediately. That's GONNA slow you down. You gotta go extra step and then it's going to depend on the speed of that Server Express VPN one of the reasons I, like them besides the fact that they give us money for their ads which really helps. But one of the reasons I like them is they have kind of made a commitment. To providing a lot of bandwidth to their servers, you're in effect now using their servers bandwidth, right? Right. So both up and down stream because they're downloading it to their, you're going to their server via your speed, but it's their download and then out. So they that's expensive and that's one of the things. That's one of the main costs of a virtual private network for the provider is. Express VPN is almost one hundred countries so they have to. provision servers all over the world with enough bandwidth. The number of users that are typically on it? We'll get a decent performance I think fifty is pretty good for VPN. It lets you watch HD video, for instance, which most most of the time on a VPN you can't. So that, that really is a factor of you've got to in effect a new a second. ISP. Because you're getting the speed of the I S P? Your case comcast. But then that's getting limited by whatever the speed of the VPN is. That's a second ISP. Now just a week ago tech radar. I'm looking thanks chat room to this link did the fastest VPN's for outright speed and twenty twenty and they said express VPN was the fastest. Fifty admittedly is a lot slower than what you got. But I'm still not having any trouble streaming. So yeah, you shouldn't. Yeah you shouldn't a so Yeah you're going to you're all in. That's frankly in the early days of VPN's is why most of us didn't WanNA use them because it would feel sluggish. Okay fifty megabits is not gonNA feel sluggish. Not at all no. Okay quick. I'd like your opinion on something very quickly and around my house your opinion. Gospel. So here we go. My it folks that will I was talking to them about VPN in my it folks are saying you do not need. VPN. At home you're wasting your money. Well, that's because they think. That's because well, it just depends what you're using. VPN for they are thinking of a VPN in the kind of fashioned sense of would use it in an open wi fi access point like a coffee shop to protect yourself against a malicious a rogue access point. So if you go to the coffee shop and you're on their WIFI anybody else on the Wifi can see what you're doing and if the coffee shop is really rogue they. Can See what you're doing you by the way. So can comcast but presumably, you trust comcast a little bit more than the coffee shop. That's what the that's what your it guys are saying but I that. So that's another reason. So you're not using it for security at home, but there are other to other reasons you would use a VPN at home. One is because comcast like most Internet Service Providers resells you're surfing surfing data to marketers. That's completely legal. There's no prohibition on them doing that, and if you look in your user agreement, you'll see that they reserve the right to do that. So I'm going to preserve presume they are they make a little extra money that way. Most is peace to. Use A VPN now says, I don't want comcast what I'm doing. But keep in mind the VPN does they suddenly are now like I said earlier, your second Internet service provider they see what you are doing because whoever puts you out on the public net and whoever does your DNS look ups they're going to know what you're doing. A lot of people now are starting fire. Fox offers. This chrome I think is going to offer it they do their DNS their their server look ups encrypted. Comcast and others hate this because that prevents them from seeing what sites you're going to in some ways but not always They still can very easily see else you're doing putting your web history. It's very easy for them to get that so. I think if you want privacy from your eyes P that's a second reason that is legit home. The third reason that's legitimate home. Is that if you want to be in a different country and this is not illegal. But if you're a net for instance, say Netflix Subscriber, you're in US Netflix's looks and says, okay here's what's available to you if you. Say to your VPN now I wanNA. Be. In. London. So. Instead of letting pick the fastest when you pick London now, Netflix's you refresh. NETFLIX's thinks you're in English subscriber and you'll see the content that's available England. That is completely legal. A number BBC's I player for instance, is a cat and mouse game. As soon as they figure out that some the VPN these are VPN IP addresses, they'll block it again it's kind of a cat and mouse game so won't always work, but generally speaking, that's another reason to use it is to to. Bypass content, geographic content restrictions, or any geographic restriction. There's other geographic restrictions. So you now suddenly are in whatever country you're coming out of the VPN on. So. That's the that's three reasons to use it. One of which your it guys are. Useless. You'd have to worry about security at home if you do you've got a bigger problem. But. The other two still halt. Hey thanks for the call. It's a good question. I appreciate you live. Yeah. Yeah. There's IT's a little. Might violate a license agreement. So you should check with the provider. Some providers BBC is player does not because it's paid for by license fees from a British TV owners. That's how it supported. So there I player they don't want people who don't pay license fees to use I player, but instead of making you log in. They just check your Ip address. And most of the time that works I somebody emailed me said, hey, it stopped working. That means they figured out. Oh That's a VPN IP address that you're using. So we'RE NOT GONNA. Let you use I player. But generally what happens is look at mass game so the VPN company changes IP addresses by New Block We're not. We're not coming in from a VPN anymore. And that works again for a while. cat-and-mouse game. Eight ask Leo the phone number if you have a question or comment or a suggestion or a tip. We're all in this together I think of the tech show is Kind of our chance to get together and talk about how to use technology better. That's really what this is all about. I'm just the ringleader eight ask Leo the websites free and open to all. Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. Now Ladies Gentlemen The star of I show Scott will then. I got turn on your mic wouldn't be much good. If just sitting there wouldn't be very I could do semaphore. So Halo everybody. Bootleg Craig was asking if I knew of any good speakers to use a turntable and a ten year old den on receiver. and. I. Asked him Bookshelf for floor standing and what your budget. And he said, four standing, three, hundred dollars. I don't think I know any good floor standards that cheap that's really really cheap. So in the chat room having ideas. Maybe, you might know of some. Let's see. Tokyo. Tony says, so I have to speakers. No sub woofers do you call that a two point? Oh system. Yes exactly. That's precisely what I call it, and that's precisely what and everybody in the industry calls two point Oh, meaning two main channels. No sub. Woofer. Mike Be Asked if if that apple's require ceiling speakers, how can a phone like my new Samsung note s twenty ultra have it? The answer is it simulates it. It's simulates it with relatively sophisticated DSP digital signal processing. with phase manipulation and and other tricks that make it seem more or less like maybe some sounds are coming from above and from to the sides, some algorithms do that better than others. And so. Really, what what the Samsung and phones like it and devices like it are saying is they are compatible with that most they can accept an atmos- contact and that most content and they will reproduce it. As good as they can, and this is part of the point of that Moss again as I said on the on my segment that. It doesn't care what speaker configuration you have. It will do the best it can with whatever you have. And so if you have a phone. With a couple of speakers in it. That has some DSP simulates tries to simulate the effect of the sound around you above you and around you. It'll do that. It'll except the signal and it'll say, okay, what am I got I got these two little tiny speakers and I got this dsp I'm just going to. Let it do its thing and hope for the best. So that's That's what it is. So it's fake outmost sounds pretty good though see exactly. I was just I don't normally watch movies or listen to my phone speakers of for music. but I was watching something the other day I was it was the trailer for Dune, the new Dune coming out. And I have an iphone excess and I never listened to its speakers. But for I was watching this trailer was in my news feed and I said, ooh, the new the trailer for Dune I. WanNa see that. And darned if it didn't sound like it was going beyond the boundary of my phone and that's the key. It actually went up beyond the boundary of the phone, and that happens some devices do that better than others but some do. And I. Think. It's pretty cool. Lawn dog says a about speakers on Ebay or clarify three hundred dollars per speaker or for a pair unfortunately good speakers costs, money laundering. You're exactly right good speakers costs money. Not, always I mean for example I was thinking of the flu ons a I. Sixties which I reviewed for tech have some time ago. They. Are I don't remember three or four hundred dollars a pair, their bookshelves. But they sound amazing. Other Bluetooth speakers self powered. You wouldn't need the dead on receiver at all. and they sound remarkable for three or four hundred dollars a pair. Now, I've gotta go figure it now I gotta go see. Let's see here if I look up. Flew ons I was amazed. At how good these speakers sounded. And for how little they cost. A flu ons a sixty. Let's see if flu ONS has the pricing. In the In their website let's see. They don't have it at the top so. Yeah, they do three hundred bucks to ninety, nine, ninety, nine. Three hundred bucks for a pair. So they're right there you're in your budget, it's a bookshelf, not a floor stander and it's not a You wouldn't use your dead on receiver at all. but they sound phenomenal. Now, I'm about to start reviewing a clip. Speaker that's much like the Flu Ons Bookshelf Bluetooth. Self powered they're in the I believe eight hundred dollars a pair range so they're quite a bit more. if you were to if you wanted to get a pair of floor sanders, I just looked up svs which I've always liked as a value brand they have the I think they're called the wait a minute. I'll find it here I've got here. the prime pinnacles. Prime. Tower. which is five hundred dollars each. So that's more than you want to spend. Even if it's a per speaker amount e- MOTIF is another possible brand I I don't know much about them. I've heard having Abby Motif is which I like but they're pretty they're like eight years old but they're very nice I have. And Imo. tvos. Phenomenal. The Motive. Is Your quivalent They're both of those are a three four. Or. Five point one system. So I have the sub in the surrounds in the. Left right, and they sound great. Their? Towers. Towers. Well you bottom sometime ago. Yeah. Any Moti was both American made. And I think good. uh-huh. Oh, Andy lack would be another. Oh, definitely. Go with the lack I wish I. You know if I were buying more speakers I'd get he lacks Yeah I don't know what they're. Let's see I don't have much time left. Let me just quickly look at Eli because Yeah. If you can get an e pair of elax. He lacks speakers not east La College. he lacks speakers whereas you lack Kyrie our products got a minute left. Let's see here. Floor stands speakers. This website uses cookies. Yes. I know floor standing speakers. come on. Would you? What level would you? Well, at at three hundred, are you still trying to find three hundred dollars speakers? I. Yeah. Three hundred Kinda hard. It's very are yeah especially for floor standards. but let's see the debut. That that may be too high end. They have actually under their product list. They have a holistic floor standing speakers. Yeah. They sure do debut to debut reference unify. Villa debuted the DEA fifty to fifty two might be the one. That's Lee I'm sure it's the least expensive. All right. Thank you. Each get one you don't need to. Well Hey hey hey. How Are you today Leo Laporte here the Tech Guy Time talk computers, the Internet Home Theater. Digital Photography smartphones smart Watches got that new Microsoft duo phone. We could talk about the the windows phone. Not What is it? It's not a windows phone it's Surface I guess but it's from Microsoft is android. Talk about potentially what apple might be announcing on Tuesday there's going to be an event. Big Event All envited to watch live. Ten Am. Pacific Time on September Fifteenth Eight ask my phone number facing talk about let's talk about eight, eight, eight, eight, two, seven, five, five, three, six. The Tech. Guy Labs, dot com, you can go there to. Find a audio and video from the show's all one, thousand, seven, hundred, twenty, seven of them and Yes that's that's how many. But doing it's it's two thousand and four as the Tech Guy and since ninety two is just some guy on the radio. But talking about computers since ninety two. Back in ninety two there we weren't talking about smartphones or smart watches. It was pretty much just windows or Mac. That was it. Eric on the line he's calling from. Hollywood California Hello Eric Report, the Tech Guy. This is going to be a basic question for you. I've got A. H. P. Laptop and it's developed a thing Basically, I've I've started up and it'll go through the the windows. Oh, come up and then my. Top icons will come up but it's frozen. And when I move the cursor. it's it's like drags a little blue screen around in little boxes with you know by the cursor that's all I can do is move the cursor the masters move anyway that's a good sign. So it's not frozen in the sense that it's not it stopped computing, but it's stopped booting. Does it get all the way to the desktop, your icons there and everything. Yeah I do they're looking at. Does it operate at all or does this happen every time he started up? I have to I have to I can't even. Power down or or you know shut it down I have to literally hard. Stop it we'll give you a little tip first of all on the OH. Yeah. I understand you can't. You can't hit a menu, but you know you can just press and hold the on off switch for a few seconds. It'll turn off right Go. Out of the tricks pulled out so. Just answer these questions. So this is every time you boot you never have access to anything is just when it starts up. Yeah okay. So so that's a bad boots. And it just means that in the process you know the way a computer starts up, it starts as a box of rocks. Then, you apply electricity in the rocks go her. And it loads in I. Some pro computer without a program is nothing right? Just a box of rocks. So loads in its first program from firmware. That's what says Oh i. have a hard drive and it says go look there because I think there's something special for you and it goes in and goes oh Loads the master boot record that says, Hey, I got an operating system right here on the hard drive. Would you like it and he starts loading that you're seeing all of that working so there's nothing wrong I don't think there's anything wrong with your hardware in other words but what's happening is as his loading in the operating system, it gets so far. You see do you ever get to log in? No. And you you. You know when you when? You WanNA delete a big section of something and you use your cursor you highlight and understand like a little blue car. It doesn't matter what you're getting. That's not relevant. What matters is can you at any point you? So this I'm trying to find out at what point It stops loading the operating system because that's what's happening. Well I as I said, look if I start it up and it goes through the windows comes up and then my dad stop right there windows comes up. You don't have windows setup to log in. He just goes you would not normally log in. No okay. So it goes so. Going and your desktop starts to show up. It shows up, it's just the cursor I can move but it that is it they. So do you see your most? Yeah I understand the start menu at the bottom. Yeah. So okay. So this is really late in the loading process. So fortunately is probably an easy thing to fix. So there's a couple of things you can try. You know the obvious end saying if nothing works will be to reinstall windows. And everything will be fine. Your windows is nothing wrong with your hardware. Almost certainly because you can see the screen it got through most of the loading process that means you're your video cards working your motherboards work in your CPU's working your hard drive everything's working. It's just that that some of that software on the hard drive can get damaged corrupted easily by the way and that's all it's happened. So it's loading along. Okay. Here we go. We're getting windows getting good. Then all of a sudden it goes. Oh And it just stops. The artifact of the dragging of the thing that tells you nothing that's just. The code that did get loaded properly can continue to run, but I can't respond past that point. So Now I'm I'm guessing because you don't have to log in you probably using windows seven. Yes okay. So. Windows ten more modern version has better recovery facilities but windows seven do you ever heard of something called safe mode? Yeah, I've heard of it. Okay. So this is the first thing you're going to do, which is to shut the thing all the way down. And then depending on the age of your machine. It's an HP think that it's going to be you tapped the F. Eight key repeatedly. While you after you press the on switch, because what you're doing is you're gonNA. You're going to get windows the to get a startup menu that that precedes loading the whole operating system because it's before that part it's crashing. And you're going to get a screen. That's GonNa say Oh okay. Here's your startup settings and there's a number of different choices I'm going to say choose safe mode with networking. And see if it'll go through the whole boot at that point. If it gets to Windows. It won't look completely normal. Your screen might be chunky because you're loading VGA driver instead of the normal video driver and stuff. But if the mouse works menus work and all of that, then that's good. Then it means. Oh. It's a driver. That's loading later, safe mode loads up a minimum set of drivers kind of the bassist model version of windows if that works, this is an easy thing to fix. What it'll be is is really going out and and kind of. Recovering windows, there's a a windows I think even on windows seven, there's a recovery. Process available If you hit windows key type recovery in the safe mode and what it'll do is it'll reinstall the driver's it'll reinstall critical system files without modifying in any way your data, your hard drive. So all your programs will still be there everything it's the minimum it's a fixed routine. And I think that's really all you need to do. I think there's a bad driver in there. Probably the video almost certainly the video driver. So. Everything's going along and then it says, okay. Now, let's load that video driver that gives you the beautiful. You know high resolution screen and it's choking and that's why you're getting the weird effects with the clipping rectangle and stuff like that. So a bad video driver another way to do it once you get into safe mode is is to install an updated video driver. In fact, once you're safe on, you might even want to try updating your your windows machine because the truth is at this point, windows seven is a risky thing to us because it's not getting updates anymore. So That some point you're going to want to install windows ten that would be another thing you could do to fix. This would be to install windows ten on top of it. and I don't know if you can do that from safe mode, but you might be able to. So there might be an upgrade windows option. But but safe mode with networking is what you want. Just. To See if everything works fine, it means something that's loading some driver probably the video driver is crashing. And that's what's that's what you're seeing on the screen. So it'd be eight key. Well, it's well it. Doesn't work more modern machines. It's the shift key. So just tap it I just go tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap while it starting up, and eventually you'll see that menu will say Oh. What do you want? What do you want to? Thank you sir you're welcome. Thank you for calling. Yeah. It's frustrating because stocking now, what do I do and I can't do anything really can't there's no menu then go to. It's you know. It's a box of rocks. And it was getting all the important programming to get it to work, and then it cuts something bad. And it just got a bad piece of fruit and. That's it. Not. Good but fortunately, there is a solution it's not such a hard thing to fix. The system file checker. S FC but I thought that sounded a little too complicated. To get into. I was at HP desktop. As I remember. The Tech Guy podcast brought to you today by simply safe love my simply safe home security of set it up for friends for family. Set it up myself. 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But there's something I mean I like this Ah, for instance, I can have. My audio book and One. Window I can be taken notes he's stuck. Sometimes it gets stuck. Here we go I could be taken notes. And the other windows. So that's cool. Right. That's that's the idea. Yeah I. I'm not that crazy about the note either to be honest with you. I mean I have a no ten I. Yeah. I think really. If if You would only get this if you're going to. Experiment you can have these groups, which is cool where you tap that into things open at once, which is Kinda see you can have to a pair of programs. Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Eighty. Eight Eighty eight ask Leo Edward in Whittier California Hi, Edward. Hi, hi. Hi Hi Yeah. Listener saying I'm very new. To social media and computers as all youtube and so but then I saw an ad for. A little gadget off at block. I wouldn't use that one one more time would not use that one. Anytime, you see something for ties D-. Basically anytime you see any ad on your computer advertised. That's Believe it or not a red flag at least on TV there are really good ad blockers. That don't advertise and block the problem with. Ad Block is it's There's lots of problems is it's spies on you. It doesn't do a good job. But if you want an Adblocker, there's a free one and this is why they don't advertise because they don't make any money on it. Called you block origin. It's the only adblocker I recommend you block origin. down. Just. Just kind of unaware of the nature of your program. I'm a first time caller and IT'S Kind of been been here for over and over an hour. Okay. What did you call it? You we put this on the website to you block origin. And so the idea is of these ad blockers. You. Know obviously I'm ad-supported. DO IS AD supported most of the websites you visit on the internet or ad-supported. So I have mixed feelings about blocking ads, but I'll tell you why. I will tell you this and why in fact, I will use that you block origin is because. It's not the ads that bother me. It's the size of the files that these ads are they can be massive. It's the security risk that they often pose because almost all the ads you see on web pages are automatically sold and displayed. So it has happened and will continue to happen that malicious software gets in these ads because a bad guy just buy some ads and even if you're on a legit site you may be have these ads foisted on you. That's gotten better by the way that's not as. The problem that it used to be, but still for security for speed of browsing and so forth. But you'll see if you put an adblocker on a lot of sites, a lot of sites will say, Hey, I see you're using an adblocker you understand we don't make any money off your kind of free writing would you like to donate or would you like to turn off for a site and that's what I would recommend if you use an adblocker maybe turn it off for the sites that you WANNA to support. there are browsers like brave that have built in AD blockers. Brave is an excellent browser based on Google chrome browser, but without the Google stuff and it has an adblocker built in in order to kind of. Make everybody feel better they have a system for paying sites. You visit you know a few cents for your visit so that it kind of makes up for the fact that you're not seeing ads from the site. So it's complicated. It's a it's a ethically complicated proposition, but I think there are legitimate reasons. at it's because ad tech has gotten. So entr intrusive I yeah. That I think it's not a it's not unreasonable thing to say look I don't. I don't want this I pay for a lot of sites. You know this is how I make my conscience feel better I pay for journalism sites because I want support journalism I pay for sites like a medium, which is a blogging site on an an order to kind of. Justify Mike to my conscience look I'm not paying for it with ads. You know there's no way you can pay this radio show right? You listen to ads as you're as you're listening to it. I get all the big picture I. I'm a truck driver I'm just in between jobs right now. Again, I just I just walked I'll be listening to it song you know any song. And you think, and then you get used with an hour. Well Ed okay, okay I thought you were talking about ad blockers and browsers. So you're saying you want an adblocker on the radio. Well on Youtube to is add blocked YouTube. So Youtube has a solution which I highly recommend listening to music by YouTube music or youtube premium. They're the same thing you get both. And then you don't get any ads at all. AD blockers will work on. Youtube. They will. But at that point, you know that's now you have to to say in my mind. Okay. I'm free writing I'm basically using their bandwidth for free and so I prefer and I do pay for you to. Because I don't right. I don't WanNa, see those ads it's a it's a complete waste of my time so I pay for to premium. I don't blame you. Now you hear ads on the regular radio, right and there's no way to block those, and frankly that's how I've been made my living for the last forty years. So I have mixed feelings about this what what I would recommend doing to the degree you're able to you're out of work maybe maybe you don't can't do this right now but at some point yeah, use the ad don't pay for an adblocker because that's crazy. So anything is the average. Particular at commercial that I. saw you know on Youtube. Bad a youtube. Summer. So it's just a little gadget that sticking to the side of your computer you know before you even. Do not do that. Okay. So there's software ad blockers work better and the reason I say never buy something like that. That's advertised they're making money somehow. And maybe there Oh, you have to buy that little dungle but I'm gonNA guess also, they're selling information about what you're doing online. So you're much better off using something like you block origin, which is in your browser will black block you two bads I would recommend you know, and this is something everybody has to kind of ethically you know think about. I would recommend buying. stuff if you can afford it and so you premium comes with Youtube music you get both. you don't get ads on Youtube. You get to music. It's ten bucks a month I can't remember what it is. That is for my conscience is an easier thing to do. I understand you know we're used to hearing music for free over the radio, but it wasn't free never is there's ads. Yeah. So we gotta figure out a way. To to both support good journalism good music. You know the artists get paid all of that stuff. Same thing with spotify. For instance, you listen spotify, there's a free tier with ads. You pay for it. You don't have ads and the artists are getting paid too. I like that. What'd you say John Yes? Sadly, nowhere. He has traveled in the past tense every road in this here land johnny jet he's are traveling Guy Johnny Jet Dot Com podcast is on that website giant dot com slash podcast. He does a great youtube series thirty, nine questions with travel experts, but the best thing the best thing johnny jet does join us every week and talk about. The way it used to be. The way it's going to be in a way it is now. The world's changing and I and travels going to come back for tomorrow. Where are you going because it's? It's so smoky here and I got little kids it out. But I was looking at the flight loads because I was like you know what I'll go I'll go drop it on my dad in. Florida there's a triple seven American there you go wide open but it's bugged solid. So I'm like You don't. WanNa. Go full plane. Yeah. especially with my kids. Lord it's so hard to know what to do. But that brings me up to my next. My first APP and website. Before you go. You never really think about this stuff until you know now we're in this climate crisis where it's changing so much that before you go to a destination, you might want to look up with air quality is oh. Yeah. I mean I have people who might be. Or clueless. They don't look at the weather it only anything or the news and they're going to San Francisco this week. This is not the week to be in the bay area or Portland La California in general. So I would recommend looking up the air quality and There's a couple of sites. One is air now dot Gov which is run by the government. And I live by the beach here right now it says in by lax it's a hundred and it's on it's on unhealthy. One sixty according to their yeah. Yeah. To New York City New York City right now is an eight. Who would have thought? The It'd be better New York City. There's on the beach la right well, and also use an APP called IQ air visual, and this one's worldwide the US when I just mentioned just for US designation. So if you're going to travel internationally I mean Bangkok. was like a nine I'm like what Bangkok? So just gives you an idea how bad the air is now and and you don't really want to be somewhere where bad pollution. So I would I would highly recommend looking up. The pollution before you when you're planning a trip and see what it's like as a lot of destinations. Are notorious for preferable air and things like that if you have some kind of. I'm respiratory disease or problem. Site you use. If you're ever do use them I know whether dot com they'll give you the purple the purple. Air Because Purple is has local sensors and. least around here, we don't know. Like I said, apple's telling me what the weather is like in town thirty miles away. That's what they're using for their age. and. So it says, one, hundred, sixty three but that's Sebastian Pool, not in Petaluma. So I need to and I have it on my watch just in case but. To purple era, I can check the sensor from the elementary school down the block and you think that's accurate because I was looking at purple air and are so different all these different sites. They're not. They're not matched evenly I mean I. Hyper local. So that's what I care about effect I ordered a Purple Censor for the House because that's what I'm really going to do is just say because I I want to know what is right outside my window. And before I opened I. Want to know whether I can open the windows. So right now according to purple air it's about one hundred. It's about the same. Actually it's about one, hundred, seventy, six in pedal. Varies but I could see all the local sensors and they range from two hundred eleven downtown two, hundred, seventy, five. Which is the one That it goes all we have to five hundred can't. I've never seen five hundred but but according to according to camshaft. What did you say? Kim Three hundred I think she saw through four hundred. She said it was over four hundred in. San In. Marin. This week Y-. Yeah. It's you know when you see that dark red. And you go I guess I'll stay in. Well I call I actually contacted a nest this morning Google and they actually did a great job on twitter. You call the number and they say, we're not we're not. We're not in the office. So context via twitter or DM on facebook and sure enough within a few minutes they responded and I've. S- asking them. You know what's the best way to keep the bad air out and they just said you know running? Run your. Fan. Run. The Fan function. And that's what we're doing it. All kind of depends a lot on your HVAC. Fr- fresh air is brought in and mixed in right and what kind of filtering you have on it and it's all very complicated and I don't think most people know I. Don't know what you know what level of her filtering. I've got my HVAC. Asked me. They asked me what kind of. HVAC. Do I have it. I'm like. There's like five different types. Yeah. So then Run on the fan so Yeah. So there's a minimum efficiency reporting value. MERV, which is the rating for your filtration in your H.. FAC. But do you know what you're? MERV IS I don't. You can get better filters you can happen filters which have a better merv rating, but then it's also a question of how much fresh air's -ducted in. It's all complicated isn't it and so but to bring it back to travel, you're right. That's probably an interesting. Point is don't fly somewhere where the air isn't better because you're stuck there for sure. Don't come. Let me put it this way. Don't come to San Francisco right now. He doesn't stay away from the whole west coast if I were in. Places where we can go without quarantine for two weeks working. That's and that's a big thing with travel right now, a lot of people are not traveling because they don't want corn to you have to stay in the US, don't you? Know I mean different states or different Can you go outside the US anywhere? I'm sorry. Can you can you? Can you as an American go somewhere outside the US without quarantining? Think there's no no you're going to the quarantine pretty much everywhere Turkey you don't have to. Croatia. Go somewhere. To take tests, you have to do the PTR. Last, seventy two hours. Not that's But. Some places require that the quarantine anyway. But one place actually United Airlines has a site they just came out with I. Think it was this week where they show you a map of the United States you click whatever state you're thinking about going to, and it will tell you what the rules are for each date. So you couldn't fly to a state and they would say when get off the plane. Okay. Now, you gotta go stay in hotel for two weeks. That could. Really, do is the only one A. Lot of them are you know they tell you like New York City New York, when you land in New York at the fill out a form and they will follow up on you APP had friends where they actually call and find out if you're there just show up. And they'll find you but Hawaii's strict this out of the mall right now. So apparently, you can drive if you're an American in the lower forty or. Whatever forty eight and you want to go to Alaska, candidate will let you drive through but you can only stop for. Gas. You've gotta keep on going. That's because they were People were keep on moving they were. Violating it actually, I'm putting I just put it in the chat room the link to United Airlines to the map. So you can see all the different places that they have. It's fascinating isn't it which which is good information right now he's like. You think no one knows right. But when you think I WanNa go on a cruise again. I know the cruise lines are starting up until the spring I mean they're in Europe you can do some but in the US assurance not going to. Be like one of those boats will I have to stay in my room? Oh. No no no one wants to do. No. One's GONNA spend money. Test. Me Getting on it's going to be rapid testing they need to have rapid accurate testing. And they're going to do it often. So I think I cruise ships when you get on when you get off the different ports, stick something up your nose, every fifteen minutes what saliva. Here okay. We'll see I mean do by right now actually has it ever. They started using dogs they can sniff if you have covert Oh i? Don't think so I don't I don't know how it happens. Buying is like wishful thinking chronic buyers, Cova dogs. Ninety percent accuracy rate. Wow to buy had a big outbreak I remember but maybe the things are better there. I'm just going to stay home. If you don't mind Johnny jet, you'll find a you know it's fun to read about travel think about travel like my my wife and I every Nice where are we going to go first we spend a lot of time Johnny Jet Dot Com. That's the place to go Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Say where we're going I. Say I. Want to go to. Asia. Words Harris I. All the tourism boards including California there. Now, coming out these ad campaigns where they're having people plan, you start to start planning now because they don a lot of them, don't even want you here or wine to their places. So now they're saying they're all their ads are like even the US travel. So She Asian just came out with an ad that's. Plan for the future. and. That's what they want people to do because. The president so hot. Not Hot. Mean people realize not even fun a lot of hotels. They're very limited. They don't have restaurants open or they're offering breakfast. It's like usually a like a cold snack box sandwich. So it's not the experience usually get. So are you going to go somewhere with your fam-. Mel. Because I just you know we would've gotten a car in San Diego Santa Barbara but the air all around California better you can't. We. Thought about going Hawaii but again, hit. Work. Hawaii's cell and I was talking about just going to see my dad but. What about Canada Oh you can't know court we definitely GONNA win. Canada actually been debating on anyway to be there around the election. Can She go? I mean we can go I can go to but get quarantined. Okay. Because Wife's Canadian I, can go. So. Yeah, that might not be a bad idea because I. pretty clear. She's from Toronto Right. Yeah. There's although patio weather's ending. Whether. It's it's over so it is index getting cold. Cold. Early. In, TORONTO. Yeah. This is I'm not a big I. Love Toronto. Just I'm not a fan of the cold weather. No, that's my problem. I. Would Love I would love to live in Canada maybe. It doesn't get quite as cold and couvert. It does. But I don't like a lot of rain. It's. Cloudy. A Lot Vancouver but it's a beautiful city. And I like, California. Lighter to. I don't know what it's GonNa be like in the long term. If. We have fires like this. It's only gonNA take a couple of that's the thing. I'm waiting for one year without fires that we're GONNA sell the house real quick. And Get, the hell. Listen we talked about my wife's like I don't WanNa live. Here. You're safe there. You're not going to have a fire there. No, we're not worried about the fire, but this is. Good now. Do you think this'll be if it's every if it's if it's every summer from now on. That's good. I mean it's a it's a climate crisis I mean it's not. It's it's getting worse. Y-. Rather. Be Safe than sorry. So. Week. New to Johnny. Have a good week and we'll talk again next. Take care. Leo LaPorte detect a professor Laura, our musical director gave me two choices she said. Billy Joel or billy idol. Really has to be one of those. She said, yes, I said idol but this is good. This is a good son. There's some good billy Joel songs to. Actually I should have just said billy eyelash then then we'd be okay bad man bad man. eighty-eight ask Leo Laurie I'm wearing a white shirt and everything Lori and San Clemente's next story I I'm great. Thanks for taking my call for hanging on. Welcome. Him. So I just need a basic laptop I'm going to be searching the web sending emails. I might working on. might take some classes I may work from home for work that I could get a computer from work to. Up, doing that, if I do work from work, it would be accessing cloud based database cloud based document. Databases. Browser, do you have to have special software to do that? I would be connecting to somebody else's cloud like relativity or some type of program. Okay. So but you would have to run that program locally. Is that right? Okay. So that means you have to have a windows machine for work. Right. Yeah. Because everything else you don't need a win as machine for where you said word but I think you really mean just word processing that necessarily Microsoft Word or not. Wanted Microsoft, office word, and there's a web based actually very good. I think makes up does a good job with their web based version of office. But. Yeah but that so if you had a separate work computer. I would say get a chromebook because these are less expensive and more secure in the do all of those things you just described. But if you have to run windows programs, you have to have a windows computer. I'm I think they're really a handful of names to consider HP is, of course, the one of the biggest names, Dell. Lenovo. All three of those would be fine. I have a Dell. X.. P. S. thirteen very happy with it. I have heard Dell's having some quality control issues, but you know they stand by the computer. So if there's something wrong with it, you can get it replaced. I think HP makes very nice thin. Light laptops with excellent battery life. I think they're very good and Lenovo is more like the truck Lenovo is. Kind of an Lenovo Fan because they're the old think pads are really built like tanks so It's kind of the personality of the computer is slightly different. HP is more elegant. Dell is more workday business in and Lenovo more like. Military SPEC I think I would actually these days maybe look at Lenovo, idea pad, which is not a thinkpad, but they make a very nice less expensive. And I think it's quite nice. there's some other than kind of off. Choices kind of outlier choices like a seuss and Acer. Those are time both Taiwanese companies that make excellent laptops I I don't think you can go wrong it just kind of more what you want. You want something that's pretty or do you want something that looks like a tank? Different. Versions of it because there are just so many like HP I. Mean there are there lots of version? So with the HP I think Again if you look at the HP's, here's the thing to keep in mind almost all these brands have both a business. Kind of high end line a professional maybe for one of a better word line and a consumer line, the consumer lines cheaper, and usually that means if they always that means cheaper components less reliable less tough. So if if really you got to save money and I know, nowadays a lot of us do then you're GonNa get the consumer but if you can afford it I, always get the professional wine. Those will be better made more reliable. Just more satisfying to us. So whenever you go to a site like HP's site trying to understand. You can almost do it by price, which is the consumer line in, which is a professional line. I think HP Dell. Lenovo. All three have strong professional lines that I would feel very comfortable with I wouldn't have any problem with us I'm I'm I'm a fan of. H I haven't HP. Specter. Yeah they they call those the premium but they also have They have business model as well. it really comes down to much you want to spend I think the the HP Specter Line is of is among the most beautiful laptops with the best battery life out there. So. but it but they're a little more pricey right? Do you have a? Do you have a a budget? Yeah we haven't quite decided that was gonna be my next question to you. I'm looking at a specter, for instance, the three sixty beautiful This is I seven, which is a high end type laptops. The I five is preferable because the I seven gets so hot you never get to run at full speed. This one because it's the premium comes with its own dedicated graphics card nvidia G force comes with sixteen gigs memory. I would recommend that on anything you buy It's a little bit of a small hard drive. It's two fifty, six gigs I would look at. Depending on what your you know how much data you're GONNA store locally, I would look at least five twelve and maybe even a terabyte but the, but the the base model of the three sixty is one, thousand, three, hundred, Fifty Bucks, which is I think about the right price point for equality. Computer. I wouldn't wanNA spend much less than a thousand. Okay. Is. That is. Unless it's outside your budget, which case. Like I said, I'm not quite sure. Yeah because I'm thinking long term in exactly fun start Kinda getting ideas of what would be bad. All right. So you're going to spend for twelve well, some things. I that I know for me I'M NOT GONNA do gaming I don't really need. Oh I. Don't have really a lot of needs for. That I want to get something that is I would get okay I'm going to spend your money. Get get this HP, Specter it's beautiful. It's Capris. Got Nice. Hinges got a great screen. It is a very nice laptop. You can use a pen with it touches important if you're GONNA use windows. I I think that's an ex- it's a little pricey. It's twelve hundred. Think though for what you're where you want, you should consider you're going to be spending between twelve and fourteen hundred bucks. Gaming would be more right high end be more but I and and you know that's for something. That's pretty that looks nice. I like to carry I. Am by the way be sexist here I like a laptop to look good. But if you don't care you know I think the the dells are very gray and boring but there, but the hardware is fine. Really, what you really care about is the quality of the screen. And the keyboard by the way that's one reason I like Lenovo thinkpad they have the best keyboards on the market they're really good. And so keyboards important to the HP's are kind of a short travel. They're not. They're not a nice. Keyboard feel the dells in the La- novas are better for that. So that's why every laptop is a trade off. You know something's give on one for you know to get something on the other and the trade offs have to match your. I'm thinking you probably want good keyboard, right? Yes Yeah If if you don't mind if it looks a little chunky and blocking. look at it in Lenovo idea pad or thinkpad. those are excellent. You can. You can kind of choose the price range depending on what you put in there very customizable and the most customizable. and think pads are Kinda ugly. Ugly but they're ugly in a good way. Ugly. Like a like a goal hound dog that does the job. Ugly they're not. They're not they're not styling. I have a bunch of black. Carbon Fiber Body Lynn you know Lenovo think pads and they're just go and they go and they go they very, very reliable. And then how about for the screen just something that's really easy. So I think polity don't get a four K. screen because that's GonNa kill battery life, and you're not watching four K. movies on it. You can get ten ADP but get a good quality tenny touchscreen if you can. And I like glossy I. Don't like the Matte screens I. Think the colors better on the glossy screens as lies you can patrol the light behind you. Okay and of the three, HP Dell Noboa they're all three have excellent screens you're gonNA. What you'll see when you go there to configure it is you'll have a choice. and. You could say I want the high end screen on the low end screen get a touch screen I. think that's important nowadays, but you don't need the four K.. Oh. Okay, and then also around her for it just like home use, I live in a condo doesn't need to be. the ACE. If you just want a single standalone router, the Sousse asu s routers are excellent. Leila, port the Tech Guy. took his shopping. This. Yeah. We took your shopping. Yeah. It's It's hard. You know it's tough because it's overwhelming. There's a lot of information out there. The thing you're GonNa want you're GonNa want sixteen gigs of Ram? Don't get less. Okay. You don't need more but sixteen, you want an SSD for the hard drive. And ideally, you want an N. V. M. E. S. S. D.. Alana Letters. Envy. Ame Is this is this is. The the interface and the DOT to n vme is is the fastest SST although. It if if it's a lot more than than, you can get a regular SSD but the SSD is critical. That's a big deal for speed. If you're getting a decent top, you'll be good. And then screen is you're going to have to. A lot of times with these. Let me just look at the idea pet here real quickly a lot of times with these. You have to get the four K. to get touch which kind of frustrates me because the problem with four K.. It's a lot of DOTS. which you probably don't need. and. It kills battery life. So. Let me look here. Oh. Yeah. Don't get the idea had one hundred. That's too cheap gonNA. Get a higher end like a seven hundred series idea pad. Here we go high performance easier portability. this is a little bit more down their consumer line, but it's but I think they're really a nice laptops. They have good keyboards. IDEA. Pad Fifteen inches. Oh, that's the other thing. How big is do you want it? So the screen size is the average is typical is a fourteen inches, but you can get smaller and you can get bigger I would say fourteen what you want. Fourteen yeah But but if you're doing a lot of spreadsheet work or something where you need a lot of screen. Once, you could always do is get an external monitor that you leave home. And then that would give you. So then you can get something a little lighter and slimmer. When you're at home, you know you can you can get a bigger. View. So you do a lot of spreadsheets. Right look at a lot of documents so I like having the yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So but the good news is an external monitors just a few hundred bucks or not expensive Oh, and all of these will drive an external monitor. No problem. Oh Okay and even though it says like idea pad thinkpad that's just that's just the same as a piece I. mean they're all PC's brand names but they tell you something just like Buick Versus, you know like a lesabre versus a regal, they tell you something about that. So the think pads are the tough guys. Business very focused on business, but their high end I think the pads are if you can afford a thinkpad, that's what I would get. Step down less expensive maybe not quite as high quality but still very good of the idea pads and the the new slim seven. Which is about twelve hundred bucks very nice. Very. Nice I would say it has all of the things that you would want. Well, okay. But if you want sixteen gigs yes. Twelve hundred bucks. It's a is seven You know you don't really need that fourteen inch attended p screen nice. Screen Sixteen Gigs. Of Ram, one terabyte solid state drive a G force cards. Let's get good graphics. So that's the that's the that's the idea pad slim seven I. think that's a very nice one and it's twelve hundred nine dollars right now. Oh. Okay. That's friends. That's kind of where you're at kind of I would say. and. Then four, it's been a long time. I've had a computer at home to do they come with Microsoft office and Windows installed with windows not with office. Office. Now, as a subscription, the good news about office is if you get the person office personal subscription at seventy bucks a year, it's cheap. And you get a terabyte of one drive storage for that cloud storage. So I think that that's a pretty good deal I would just and they'll give you. A card that gives you a a limited trial. Sometimes, it's three months sometimes, it's a year depending on the manufacturer. But it's a seven bucks a month I think it's I think that's well worth it. If you, you say you'RE GONNA use office do you use excel? Sometimes. I mostly. Mostly worry. Yeah Okay. Okay Oh. Great. No thank you so much. I really pleasure. Laurie have fun. I think you you to get to work from home isn't that wonderful? Yes, it is an well the good news is you save money on clothing. My wife just wears tops. For. Stretch pants tops, you know be comfortable. Right. Laurie. A great rest of the day to thank you. Well Hey. Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo Laporte here the Tech Guy. Time, you talk computers, the Internet home, theater, digital photography smartphone smart watches. All add jazz phone number. If you WANNA, talk to me eighty and talk to me in the world eighty, eight, Eighty, eight, ask Leo Eight. Eight two seven. Five five, three six, that's toll from anywhere in the US or Canada our website where everything goes all the answers and the questions, Tech Guy Labs, dot com no sign up no fee. It's free. Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. That's a good thing to remember. That's all you need to remember really everything else is is, is there Good article in PC magazine this week. As. If there's a magazine. There's There's a magazine online anyway PC MAG. I guess we call it now a good good article in PC MAG by Susser Siegen who's really good at this kind of thing every year they do. testing. Drive all over the country. To test mobile networks, they literally go to twenty-six cities. With their smartphones in hand and test them. This year, of course, they're testing the latest mobile network five G., the latest technology fifth generation the problem with five Geez it's a marketing term it doesn't really mean a whole lot technically. It implies that there, but it doesn't have to be that they're using new technologies. At six hundred megahertz range and in the millimeter wave range. That's the two different kinds, the low band in the high. Band. At and T.'s kind of five G. that isn't really five G. Call Five. G. E. which is really enhanced four G.. But here's the thing. And the and in order to do this, of course, you have to have the latest phones that support five G. Most phone stope most of the phones you buy from now on we'll. But Five G. didn't make a whole lot of difference for anybody and in fact, in some cases. A T and T. The five days actually slower than their four G. If. You want speed and you can find a little corner of New York City or one of the few cities where it's available and you can get very fast five g service on. Verizon. Very fast as fast as two gigabit. That's fat and that's faster than your home. Probably Right. but the problem is. You have to be in a very specific area. It's very limited and yeah, this is this is the. It's marketing because remember all the ads we saw the NFL. The NFL last year about how for highs in five G. was at the going to be an all the football stadiums while you can't go. Okay but. It did what didn't even cover the whole football stadium was at a corner in one part of the football stadium because this technology verizon's using millimeter wave doesn't travel well at all and it will be stopped by anything light missed. It stops working. It's so high frequency. That it really is. Very limited availability. Now, T. mobile's using this low band six hundred megahertz. But it's not faster. So. So. I guess the reason I bring this up and it's worth reading PC MAG DOT com. No paywall. The reason I bring it up is. There is and this is their conclusion to there is no reason to rush out and get a new phone with five G. it. There's just no benefit to it at all. Now this probably is similar to what happened with Lt when it four G. when it first came out, it took a while. And maybe five G. will but I think there's some technical hurdles it per really mean five G. isn't going to be like Oh Yukata have it. For a long time at all. So if you're if you're curious, really a good right up, they went everywhere. Checked everything twenty-six cities, and by the way if you're not in a city forget about. It. We. We may never get the five G. in my small town. Are Five G. results. Sasha rights were disappointed disappointing all around on every carrier. On every carrier. At Five G. Right now appears to be essentially worthless. T mobile five G. can be a big boost over four G., but it speeds are only what we'd expect from a good for G. Network isn't a new experience. For. Five G. is often mind-blowing but very difficult to find. Bottom line. That's the bottom line. Now, you know don't run out and buy a new phone just because you want five gee, I don't think that's ever going to be I think it's you know marketing marketing. Let's go to Larry Amy rose is on the line. Hi, Amy rose. Leo. How're you? I'm great. How are you Najib absolutely magical. Thank you heard. What can I, do for you? So I am a teacher second-grade teacher we have been. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If you're at the age where you're teaching kids to read. Aren't you? Yes there. That's that's such an important job. Thank you amy rose I know it's tough right now I know very trying. It is and my question is though we're designed to go back to school. Make us go back into the classroom. There's about forty teachers on campus AIDS and such. We've been dropped our zoom calls or dropped consistently You have to go to the school to do the zoom calls yes. Sir. Okay. This is. we keep any job. So we probably have a better result if you stayed home, you know that right? Most. Definitely Yeah Okay Didn't do the right thing. It's the rules. It's just the rules I understand Yup Yup every school district has to figure it out and I have huge respect for the all the teachers administrators. This is a very tough time. Well then you're darned if you do and you're darn. Right the parents probably you're driving you nuts right now. Oh, well, those some of those to. My problem is, is that we kept getting up so they had a third party come in and talk to. The classrooms that were being dropped. We all have our own independent Wifi source. Or Hub, in our classrooms up high on the feelings. The gentleman came in and said, you need you all need to remove your cordless phones that's what's interfering in dropping your calls years in calls. I did research I looked online. The last article I can find that has any remote. Connection to that is two thousand eleven you. Know. I. Mean. I guess I mean if you really wanted to put your phone in Wi fi mode or I mean AIRP-, airplane mode, or you know this might help turn off Wifi on your phones. Hot spot that's not Houston cordless phones. Oh the cordless phones not the cell phones. Cordless Funds. Okay. Yeah. That could be depends on the phone some court the depends on the frequency. Some cordless phones operated the same frequencies and could be interfering. That's true. 'cause I looked up more and more than I do but it's not one of them was two point four. That would interfere. So. Some cordless phones are at nine hundred megahertz that wouldn't but those that are two point four. would. Okay so he's right. Okay, that's what I'm trying to find. That when we're in behind it phones for goods five. For twenty two years and I've had mine for at least. Twelve years. And we have a class twenty, five kids in a classroom plus a teacher on chromebooks all working diligently. And there's been no problems with dropping. So. Maybe there are other problems. Because it's just you and zoom right one person on Zoom Yeah Yeah, it's good that the school district. Consultant. It is the case that the cordless phones could be problematic but it sounds like from what you just said, there may be other problems as well. Correct. I just want to be able to I'm the Tech Leon our campus so Come to me and they're trying you know and we have meetings. And I. Just want to have all my ducks in a row. Be Roses the experts so So it is the case that two point, four, Gigahertz, Watson you should look and see if the brand you're using our two point, four gigahertz phones, those interference, the same frequency. So that is the case anything at that frequency two point four or five could interfere. But it sounds like there's other problems too because you were able to have classroom with everybody on Wi fi forty kids on Wifi. No problem. Now remember. That zoom is going to be more demanding than just sitting there on your chromebook looking at a website because if the if the website. Stops for five seconds then finishes you might not even notice but if it happens in zoom call that's dropped call. Right and then I'm leaving twelve kids in a room without exactly. So streaming is a more demanding thing. Yes It it's probably the case that you could improve. Your Wi fi, but it might require getting new gear. So the gear that you're how old is that Wi fi systems probably fairly old right? Actually it's within the past two years so good. All right. So that was. So. So this is a complicated problem because it could be. The computer could be the bands that you're getting. It could be the WI FI system wi fi interferes with other wi fi so. The problem wasn't a problem in the past but remember you weren't streaming video. That's a much more heart but complicated thing to do much more demanding, right right. So it could be all of that Did the guy look at anything else or just say, hey, it's the phones. It's a bad to what he said. He went in each classroom even people who didn't even have cordless phones sending exact. He said the same thing he was your neighbor that is like four doors down, they have a cordless phone so it's interacting interfering. Well it certainly isn't helping. I would honestly abetter tech would come in and would do more testing on the actual network. Would use Wi fi signal tester but also use a packet sniffer they'd be doing more did he hook up any gear to the network at all? No Sir and he didn't do anything. He guest. Guest. Yeah, he guest, but there's a but you can there. Anybody knows. What you need honestly probably in your area. Well I don't know there may be a parent. Who is a tech person who works in it preferably? If, you could find a pair that's what you need. You need a volunteer volunteer to probably is a lot of them will pretend. We'll be like this guy, I? Know What's wrong? You want it's really competent. You know he works at a UN. Ideally networking, it guy who works with networking because he'll have the gear and the knowledge to to really go in there with a meter signal meter. Look at what's going on to check the the Ethernet to each room. He'll. He could tell you exactly what it is instead of guessing. Perfect that's kind of. Oh. Good Bring in the pair of a smart parent Mo- by the way that's happening in most schools. Perfect right. You gotTa you find a volunteer somebody in your area who knows what he's doing. There's tech companies in your area. Yeah find somebody like that. Or maybe somebody I don't know maybe there's a military installation nearby. There's gotta be somebody who really knows what they're doing. Who could help you because I think there's another problem I think you nailed it and I don't think the cordless phones are certainly potentially a problem. And I would try and see if it fixes things. They're not you. The cell phones are different the cordless phones though yeah I misunderstood those could be a problem. Yeah. I and by the way. If you have zooms ear, can you tell them that we need click a link in the chat for Kids Synchromesh? Do I'm chromebook. Course you do. So you can send the link and they can click on it. Of course you do and they don't do that. Oh. Zoom. You should look at blue jeans, which is really designed for teaching. Oh. Yeah, there are other is a big blue button or Bluejeans I'm trying to remember our friend Chris Marquardt uses. On, his photo sense site And it is designed for pedagogy it designed and it. We'll have click links for instance, because Sumer members business. The problem was zoom is business tool. It's not an unfortunately we're all stuck. Right you know. Doing school with business tools. And Click on links would be one example of the kind of thing obviously any classroom you're GONNA go. Yeah I know. Right. But But maybe Maybe That's not the perfect tool I'm trying to find I'm looking at Christmas sight to see what tool he's using it was is blue jeans or is it bl-? Blackboard prison, but blue jeans. I, you know I, there are. I'll put it in the website because I'll find it. There are tools like zoom that are more designed for school. And that's kind of what you want. And we did it. I'm under the assumption is they were trying to find something that was an easy platform to introduce. It's no brainer right right. It's the easy one. Yeah Yeah Meanings meeting isn't probably right either teams as those are all business focused. You want something that's focused for the classroom I think. They're so That's that's what I would go with. I'm just looking on Chris's sight to see if I can big blue button dot org. League, could you change if you were the tech lead and you said Hey Let's try this. You can't change it is the district decides that probably, right? Yes. Yes. Sir. If I. if there's continue understand, we have another one another. Be Rose? You're doing God's work. You are teaching children how to read. How to be in the world how to learn how to enjoy life you are doing the most important job that can be done. And you're educating us. Oh, thank you all I. Wish I could support you more but I'm just so grateful to what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you very much having magnificient day you too. Amy Rose. Thank you. There's a I've seen that bumper sticker if you can read. Thank a teacher. You remember the teacher who taught you to read. You remember the first time you could look at a book. And read, that's a big deal. They the port, the Teke. Would you be surprised if scientists are learning how to fight covid nineteen from Wildeboer Crop? What if I told you that I could spoil almost any movie based on who uses an iphone? Oh, that the cute animal crossing virtual world has turned into a capitalist nightmare that people are spending tons of real money on. Did you know that Disney apparently has a preoccupation with butts? Well, that's wild wild tech, the cost that brings you the wildest most bizarre the most interesting stories about tech and how it's shaping our culture wildlife tech is hosted by. Jordan. Erika. Weber that's me on me, Joshua. Rivera on every week will uncover infamous stories, input culture and Tech I'm will lend from the experts and talk to the people who lived through these wits stories like when the to computer programmers decided to create an ai that made billions of melodies just to disrupt the world of Copyright Law. But when they made steph curry so good in NBA two. K.. It broke the gay or the time when you know what you should just listen subscribe to Wildwood Tech for free on apple costs spotify or whatever you get your poke costs. Leo LaPorte detector. Eighty eight eighty eight Leah that's the phone number. You got a question, a communist suggestion. I would love to hear from you eight eight ask Leo. Big. Blue Button Dot Org. Is A web conferencing system designed for online learning period that's what it says. And so I think zoom is like well right uses zoom because everybody uses them. It's like windows. Windows is the best known. But it is what everybody? So I, think that's what happened more of your calls coming up in Justice I, do I do like the? The book form factor and I think the kindle on it is just awesome. HOOPS A. And you do you do have to learn a new way of? Of of thinking about things. But So I'm learning some of the things I find I still get stalls sometimes for some reason I'm not sure why we're nothing response. yeah I, understand that. Switching from APPS does not always work YEP YEP YEP. That's the biggest problem I've had where it stalled I don't know what's going on. Eventually I, figure I get it I get it going. There's some you know obviously I wanna see more programs designed. To use this because you know for instance, this'll be a great crossword puzzle. program. If. If it would work right. But You know it kind of doesn't. It's so close though. This also happens. But this happens with everything. It's stuck accelerometer some. I like the fingerprint reader I think that's nice. It's a very, very, very expensive book reader. I think it's GonNa get. It's GonNa. Absolutely get better. Once. I think there'll be a few software updates it'll help. I'm going to move this back here. The. Other thing is is just This form factor. Is a little weird that takes a little getting used to it's not as natural as holding a phone. But. I don't see it. All battery life is great cameras terrible. Obviously, you know that. I mean look at that who that old man. But So now if I flip this. Around. Now it's now it's a camera. So. Because there's only one camera but that's all right. Whoops. At least whoops. Enough to do that. If they had a better camera. This would be kind of mind boggling. way of thinking about photos. Yeah I'm. GonNa. It's my going to be my fulltime phone for for a while. Isn't it with verizon? The keyboard experience. Feel like. So. Tell me how to do that, Liu. So, now in theory if I did this. How? How do I get it so that it's a split screen to have to go to wide screen and then get the keyboard open. Come on. On. This other we go and then do this. How do I get? There we go. See now that's a pretty that's an interesting. This would be better. If it worked. In a little bit better. Yes she is Leila. The Tech Guy professor you playing that for Your Mama? I think you are. My Momma. My Momma said, why did you ever leave the East Coast? You just text me? She can you breeze why did you ever leave the east coast mom? Well I left the East Coast fifty years ago. I didn't know what was going to happen twenty twenty. I really didn't back in nineteen seventy had no idea eight, thousand, eight, hundred, eighty, escalate the phone number. Let's go to line to Glen on the line from Winnetka California Hello Glen. Hello Leo. Glenn what's up with my desktop I'm periodically doing on site backups by opening the case and blogging and spare hard drives and I'm considering getting a Kingman hard-drive powers which modules who I can leave them in and just turn the power off to them. So when unpowered are these backups immune from ransomware attacks? Yes. Only one unpowered though. The minute you plug it in. It suddenly May the ransomware I'll go. Now here's something sneaky ransomware author's doing I. Don't think they're doing it to individuals. So you're. It's only for businesses, but businesses should be aware of this. In this is what happened has happened to. cannon the camera company I could happen to garment as well. They get into the system first and then they wander around. And look at all the backups, all the ways and they put time bombs on them. Because they know if so backups off line either turned off or just not connected, it's not gonNA. ransomware he's not gonNA affect it. Unless. You saw that hard drive before because you waited three months. And you said, oh good. I'm going to pull something on that. So when they do plug it in. It'll encrypted to. So that's that's why but generally, the rule of thumb is an off line backup whether it's disconnected or in your case, power down is not vulnerable. The minute you turn it on all bets are off. So if you had ransomware, the things turned off you go. No, don't immediately turn on. You now you to clean up the ransomware. Then you can turn it on and say good I got everything. That makes sense right? There's a way to block access to add men mode. Via Manual switch on my computer wouldn't that be nice. Well, then it shouldn't be that hard for them to do. Well I mean. They have a software way of doing it, which is you use a limited user. All the time, and if you ever need to be an Admin, you have to type the password in well. that. But I thought they were suspected back doors to that even with well there. Yeah. There are. It's called. Those attacks are called privilege escalation attacks and The idea is the reason you would be eliminated user. Is because. Whatever Mauer's on your machine can only do what you as a limited user do. So if you can't install software access the hard drive in special places. So forth it's limited then so there there's a lot of know Microsoft with its UAC kind of means you can run as administrator but if anything administrator like needs to be done, you'll get a pop up that says, Hey, look it doesn't make you enter the password anymore but says, Hey, look we need to be administrator here is that okay with you? They think that's sufficient. As long as you pay attention, the problem is most people just go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to get something done here. Don't bother me. But that's what you a C. is for. So you can run as an administrator and be warned when something an administrator would wanna do is being done, but there's other ways to do it on the Macintosh they you have to get permission to access folder it'll say hey. This program wants to access your document folder is that okay? I think Microsoft will start implementing that as well which I think is good. The idea is slow be speed bumps slow it down because right now ransomware gets on your system. And goes. Part he and it gets all over the place. One thing I would look at. Alternative to the Kingman. is also by for desktop computers and I used to use these little objector base. That you could put a drive in. It's connected and then when you've done the copy, eject it. Well I used to have them on my last computer. Crime Little Fan. That's supposedly going to cool my hard drive while I'm doing matrix. Wait a minute I got these great fans, and properly that's the hardest thing you're going to do on. This is honestly why cloud backup is such a good idea for most people because. It's slow because he's only it's limited by your bandwidth right and it doesn't WanNa, take up all your bandwidth. So it's going to trickle it up there, but but but it but it's always doing it. It's always backing it up and good solution like our sponsor but there are other ones too. That does snapshots. Then you're a little bit more safe from ransomware because you can always roll back in time. So there are look at this is clearly an issue. In fact, it's such. You would assume that Garmon and cannon would have it people competent enough to protect them from ransomware apparently not. Apparently, not so it's a problem and the as the good news is. The money is in attacking businesses not individuals. Individuals those are kind of mass attacks and they're easier to thwart. They're not going to be as aggressive but boy, if you're a business, I'd be terrified have a business I'm be terrified right now because I asked my it guy that every time I see him are we okay. Are you doing are you doing stuff to protect us? That involves protecting. preventing our from coming in through email that's the most common vector by a long shot. Why we have something dumbest chromebook in less. I pushed the button on my when they'll be cool and the heck can't they do that that's a great question. more sophisticated operating systems Lennox. I'm thinking of to have those kinds of features where you can. You know you really can't do anything. It's not a hardware switch. It's you enter a password I guess hardware switch. How would that work? That's an interesting. Now you've got now you got me thinking that might be a real opportunity I think you should go out and make it happen Glenn, Startup Time Glenn. That's why I'm listening to you. Have a clue. You sound like you know you're doing hey, it's a pleasure talking to you. Stay safe. Thank you. All right take care. Bye. Yeah. KVM switch maybe I don't know. How could you make it so that it's really hard for bow wears if it's a switch, our can't flip a switch. It's really hard for malware to to get the privileges it would need. To passwords one thing but but he's right I mean his premise is if it software, it can get something to get around it potentially hardware. No. Good. It's a good idea. It's a pretty interesting idea. The tech either GIZMO is coming up right after this. Oh Yeah you could do that. That's a good one. So. The was mentioning. That you can set it up with a little effort, but you can't set it up that you need physical donal ub key to escalate. Instead of a password, use a physical key that would certainly be more secure if I've been meaning to do that. You can do that on Mac. You could do it on a pretty sure. You can do it on windows, right? He it on Lenox. and then so in order, then what you do is you operate as a lower privileged user. But if you need to escalate. It'll say, okay give me your key. That's a pretty good idea that's the solution. It currently. Is. Tricky. Complicated. and Bill, in Michigan says he's still kind of software switch, right? Because it's the software controlling yen now because the pam if you get around. I Yeah I think yeah. It's still the Pam software on your computer. But I think that'd be a lot harder and that's certainly very hardened because it's the primary authentication method for. You know some pretty serious guys so. I don't know that's a good question. Show them how they do it Dick Debartolo, are disco fool. He's dancing in the lighted floor. Look at those amazing white bucks the white pants, the wide open satin shirt with the CORNU hanging over his hairy chest. He is a good looking man ladies gentlemen I give you the Bar Tolo mad mad his writer and gives Whiz. Wow matter breath. Real to be here. You. Are the. The man who saved the match game you are fifty years mad magazine's maddest writer but the thing we know in love him best for. Is. He's our GIZMO wizard are gives wiz and each week that that is the highlight of my career. which just shows you how far down. Something Leo. Yes. Get you on the by boy I. It's cheap. Okay. It's cheap. So this is. Just want to tell you I now have eight gooseneck. Lamps, I have so many gooseneck lamps. So don't give me any more of those. Okay. I have fifteen. Oh, what we're talking about. Good. Okay. Okay. So about a month ago, I bought a little three and a half inch led mini flashlight and what I liked about it. It is at the side there's a task light. So if you WANNA lay on a table at something if you scoring in a wires or something and there's no one there lights the area then something I don't need it also has built in strobe and the front of the flashlight is focused. and. It'd be nice six if this had a little adhesive strip on it and emotion detector. So I put it under my desk and when I ended up under my desk would light it up. Oh. That's good. Yeah. Doesn't have that though No. Anyway. I got an email deal of the day today Schley yes. Three dollars and fifty cents practically half off the pre a buck fifty shipping except free shipping if you buy three. So I thought three. Of course and then I did I did it onto his wisdom and Becky said, wait a minute. I just bought four for twelve dollars. Well. Let me see if they're the same thing. So I thought Oh. Amazon sent me an email. We have flashlights look you might like six for eighteen dollars. Oh, I bought those. Well Lee? The fascinating thing is they're all slightly different even though in pictures and size they all look exactly the same. The. The one that was three dollars and fifty cents. The built inside task light is thirty percent bigger. So it gives off a bit more light and it also has a little lanyard and it also comes in a little plastic case and I bought six of those for stocking stuffers. They're really great end five hundred. rechargeable battery inside Oh and so it's a rechargeable A. A mini recharging cable. So you on your website is with Dot Biz you've got like eight different places I could buy this. What's the best deal? Well, the best deal is one that is not an affiliate link but I always I always put What I think is the best buy I think the deal of the day and I just bought three more an hour ago just to make sure they were still available the comes to three fifty each it has a lanyard, it has the biggest. Side Task Light, it has focus -able head headlamp. And it comes in a little. Carry case. So this is a rechargeable I just plug this in charge you I like that idea so I could leave it on the charger but when I need it Pulls ready to pop it off. It's ready to go. Yeah and I've already given three away every time someone comes in the door I. Go I have a present foyer, just write your name on it and it'll be your gives whiz giveaway. Oh. That's great. I like the task light 'cause I often like I. said, I'm going under my desk you know. With wires and stuff all the time and a flashlights to pointy I, just WanNa broader be a bright light and also I left one on the boat. The big enough to you know some of them come with the pocket clip instead of the little. LANYARD. They're really handy. But how many do you really need? No more than nine? So fifteen with to give six away. I need one. I need I lose things in this place often. So I'm better off when I have a flashlight almost on every N. table. Yeah. If I don't see it. I turned around and Oh it's another one there. There's another one there. And then I have a giant flashlight to find those flashlights in dock. What's the Self Defense Setting? The self defense says also features a strobe signal self-defense said. Well what they consider, the defense thing is just to let the. Let the strobe light go on. And it's going to steer them away. Halloween's coming. This'll be good to give have one of these for all the kids. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. In the files at one of the three three dollars does not have destroyed job, but all of that is pointed out. Oh, so you're buying a couple if you. you don't get more discount. So the lowest is three, forty nine that's at that daily. Three to get a free shipping definitely wants one at least three never never ordered fewer than three but she also I have free shipping and Amazon but the three dollar one, you get six of them. and. No six eight I. Don't know someone said they didn't come with the cases my six each one came in its own little plastic carry case. So if you're doing it on Amazon, that's a great way to do it. This is these are the ones that clip a smaller tasks late area, but the clip is nice because you can. Put it on your ear it in your pocket exact. Yeah. EXAC or click on your cap that is just like a headlight. who? Now we're. And that one also has destroyed in it. mean the humidity self-defense slight. Okay that's a eighteen dollars for six of them. Yeah I. think that's for Halloween. This is a good thing for all the kids to have a little. Light, you clip it on the back of them so they don't know, but they'll be visible and that's important I. Think it's Great. I think. It's and I, and if you want to help Dickie Dee Click the link from the website that makes it easy for you. If you're buying on Amazon but also he gets a I don't know you you get twelve cents so that's nice. S Nice gives whizzed businesses website click the gives was visits the Tech Guy Button to see these this offer. An all the other stuff, all the other junk he's talked about on the show. 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They Called This a Movie Episode 71 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)

They Called This a Movie

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They Called This a Movie Episode 71 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)

"I'm sonic little ball of Subaru Energy in an extremely handsome package on my planet. People were always after my powers so I came to yours. It gets a little lonely but that's okay. I am living my best glide broader. The voice at the dismount also son. I can't with that guy hiding out in my garage power. They could conquer the universe. You have to help me please. It's life or death good morning my rural chump. Mr Dr Ovonic. I'm going to give you five seconds to tell me what is happening to me. Oh my God stop because what the world's largest rubber band ball we got to see it. No this is not some fun family road trip. You're right it was lame. Give Shabas cool though. Whatever this creature is I'm going to uncover the source its power. I just thought you might like a lot with steamed Austrian goat milk. Of course take them. We gotta lay low. Let me show you how it's done to get out of here. Yeah time to go. I always wanted to do this. You not dead. I have no idea that was illegal. Left away on his cute. Let's keep you've got car insurance right. Why would you throw your life away for this synod of alien time because my friend? Let's see this is my power and I'm using it to protect my friends so you're supposed to be Tom's best friend that he won't shut up about a lot. I don't see feel very grows to they. Call some movie testing the strength of friendships. One terrible movie at a time. Subscribe to the PODCAST and podcast services by searching. They call this movie. We were part of the main naming. I work with to find more for the website. The maintenance dot com or on twitter facebook and Instagram at amy. We're so now. Proud member Geek vibration you can find them at GB NATION DOT com. What they call this movie. This Anthony Delvecchio with me is always Dan. Acquino when Mark Myers. Hello Gentlemen. Hey everybody. I'm finishing a Chili Dog. Geez WE'RE GONNA move on from from that one to introduce because we have a very special episode this week Mark L. Though he never really mentioned on this podcast has a video game. Podcast the game volt podcast and we have here today with us is his Co host on that. Show Tom Schuster and Jenny. Acquino say hello. Tom Do Great. That's all he wanted right. Say in terms of energy. Well as long as you don't try one a bit that mark. Wow that might have been your worst. No no it's the fast and the furious bit from a couple of weeks ago on our podcast made. We put the Kabosh on on this one. Because I was sensing that he's GonNa try toy a double double up on that one so for episode one hundred. We'll rank your worst ones. Today is a semi special episode. We have them on here to talk about the much maligned. Twenty twenty to release known as sonic the HEDGEHOG. We decided to do this episode before we all watched it obviously and now. It's doing gangbusters in theaters. So here we are to talk about it but before we go into it everybody. What is your experience going in with? Sonic the HEDGEHOG and we'll start with the. We'll start with guest Tom. What's your experience with? Sonic the Hedgehog in terms of past and present my experience with sonic goes a long way back. I didn't own it genesis as a kid but I had plenty of friends. Who did I always liked to play? Sonic but I didn't play on it. I guess like a normal person. Would I literally tried to run through it as fast as possible? Good every time because sonic is fast. So why wouldn't I also pretty big Fan of the Saturday morning cartoon that the one that did the voice for Sonic Julia White to the Voice of Sonic and now that I'm a retro Gamer? And that's like what I do. I own like almost all the sonic games so I now get to go back and relive them. Whatever want genuine about you. I'm the opposite of all of you probably. I never really played sonic and the first time I really played. It was for Retro Roulette on our own. Podcast you're welcome. Yeah thanks okay. And our usuals Denmark where you coming from. I'm coming from somewhere. Were taught in the middle with Tom. I didn't I also known as Sega Genesis but I have family members who did I loved. Sonic Sonic and sonic to with tales. Tales was my favourite. His I was always. I was always second player with my cousin. I never watched the cartoon. But I've seen bits and pieces of it. And he just seemed very mean in the cartoon like I guess he was trying to come off his edgy and cool but he always seemed like he was condescending towards the other animals and everything and I wasn't a fan of that sure he had an attitude the two era. I don't like that man you know. Just just be nice. Why can't everyone just be nice to each other? What I have Dan. Do we have on this? Podcast is one of the trust me. He's not doing anything special because I'm around. I'm a nice guy. I am a nice guy literally. I'm a nice. You have to bury this podcast. Skip this week. Start over between the Chili dog incident. And now this creepy Nice Guy Voice so experience with sonic. I had a Sega Genesis and I was probably much more back. Zen of Kid Mario Kid. Because Genesis was my system the any s was the family slash. My sister system with shy meant that I had to play Mary three when the family was around or something but this was the first one that was in my room on my TV. So I got to play a sonic the hedgehog for for as long as the one in Australia with cartoons comics. You had all to three and sonic and knuckles. I even ended up buying sonic adventure for the dreamcast. Which is when I realized. Maybe this is going in a bad direction. That's when he realized. Yeah that's why I realized you know. I was really into sonic at that point until it's only been in teenage to early twenties years that. I realized that Mario is much better game overall but I think I play Sonic Mania which we played on the extra livestream. I'm a little bit next just because it reminds me of all those old games. I wasn't allowed to play. Sonic right. It was too. I know too violent now. I just didn't have a SEGA GENESIS MY COUSIN DID. I never really cared. Play Nintendo kid through and through. Although I did watch the show I think I played one level of sonic mania extra extreme and that is my sonic. I was super indifferent to this movie going in and I am super indifferent coming out of it but to go into a little bit of detail Sonic the Hedgehog of twenty twenty and it was directed by Jeff Fowler who directed an animated short called Gopher broke sixteen years ago. And that's it. It's it's stars the Voice of been Schwartz as the titular. Sonic the hedgehog. Jim Carey James Marston. Tika sumpter Natasha. Rothwell Adam pally has an IMDB score of Seven Point Zero. Mayo score of as of Monday. Sixty four percent budget. Eighty five million dollars estimated box office as of opening weekend. Fifty seven million. Us opening the a little backgrounds of this film originally released by Sony Pictures. Under the Columbia pictures arm sometime in two thousand. Eighteen rights were eventually acquired by paramount pictures and in February twenty eighteen announced it would be released on November Fifteenth Twenty Nine Thousand Nine than the decided to put it up to November eighth and then they released a trailer on April fourth. Two thousand nineteen the faded trailer premiered cinema con. Was that day that will live in. Yeah they showed it on send. Mcconnell April four twenty nineteen and eventually was released on April thirtieth to the Internet's to very negative reception. Took them a bout four days or so. And then they decided to announce that they were going to redesign. Sonic may second twenty nineteen and then they released a trailer after that work was done on November Twelfth With the new design of sonic too much more positive perception that was released on February fourteen. Twenty twenty they estimate of the redesigned cost about five million dollars so do bad number. I don't know how much they spent on marketing. So that those are always the numbers that are kind of hidden but if the this movie makes two hundred million dollars and it's probably money well spent but at this point. What do you guys think about this film? Let's go first time. I enjoyed it. I went in with low expectations. Just because I know how well they do game movies do and how. They bastardize characters very quickly. It was interesting how they tried to write a new origin story for sonic. I guess sonic never really had one so it was kind of interesting to see them come up with their own. I like the little amount of Fan Service. They did with a couple of things like they snuck in the sonic the hedgehog theme song. At some point Marco bring up some other stuff that they did but I think a seven is a very fair score for it right now. It was a popcorn. Movie is all I could call it. Jim I'm excited to hear. I think the best way for me to describe how I felt about. It was just affirming the fact that it was a kids movie. I can't be too harsh on it for what it was. I didn't hate it. There are parts of it where I felt like it was a little cheesy but again. That's what kids love. The most and there are some things I got. I could improve upon I did like the little bit of Fan Service that they had an lake. Tom Said how they played the sonic theme song towards the end of the movie. That was cute. I kind of wish they did a little bit more of that in the little bit of sonic that I know I could have appreciated that kind of stuff a little bit more but overall I'd say I'm a little bit lower than Tom. I would give it a six out of ten about you. Dan. I didn't hate it. I also didn't love this movie. I think it was harmless again. It's a kids movie so going into it. I figured you know it. They were going to have certain things that would appeal just to the kids and I was hoping there would be some stuff. That appeal to grown ups wasn't too much of that. But I like Jim Carrey He went back to more of his slapstick way of acting that he was phenomenal. But he didn't ruin the movie I enjoyed him James Marston again. One of the most overlooked actors in Hollywood. I think he's such a nice guy he looks like you do. Do you. Just WanNa hang out with and everyone just kinda passes over him and I think the redesign definitely helped the movie out I. I can't imagine sitting there for an hour and a half looking at the abomination that was first passed. Wow Oh my God that fuel i. I would be too distracted at looking at a semi realistic Blue Hedgehog. Yeah it would have taken me out of the movie but Yeah I think for what it was doing. It did well It was semi faithful to the I mean. How faithful can you be to just a hedgehog running as fast as you can around loop de loops and going through fire pits and whatnot. But I you know listen I left thinking or you know. I didn't hate it so I will get. I'm going to split the difference. I would say six and a half more towards the seven area good mark yes so I was. I was excited going in just because it was either going to be something that I enjoyed or it was gonna be such terrible message that we just fun. Sitting in that theater watching it collapsed so I was. I was a little nervous when they started the origin. Story until they showed That the people that live on the island were a kidnaps Like knuckles So I was like all right. They're not completely abandoning You know the history of sonic try to write their own thing There at least sticking close to that And it was just the whole movie is is a very fine kids movie like there's not much to hate about it. It'll probably fall under the same realm if I ever get to see detective. Pink atro- in Nat- it's it'll have some good references for us in some. You know good jokes for adults and people fans of series. But it's not going to be overly you know end up on anybody's top ten list or anything like that for the year At I completely agree with Dan in in terms of James Marston He should get a lot more You know leading man roles. We watched a movie A few weeks ago. You know killers with Ashton Kutcher and I'm like I'd much rather see James Marston in that role you know coming out of this moving You know it's just I don't I don't know I don't know why it's just everything I've seen him in. I've liked So it was nice to see that you know he. He brought that same Acting ability to this this role in didn't like make feel like a paycheck movie But I gotta say they they did they did a real good job of giving sonic reasons To have the a emotional rollercoaster. Kinda goes through in the movie Because there's none of that in a series of video games. He's always you know the top of the food chain super happy. Go Lucky Kinda thing but they they. They tried to inject the best they could without going over kids. Heads you know why certain things happened in the movie and I thought that was well done. It could have been very poorly written In very cheesy and You know just try to talk down to the kids. It's it's my one. Pet peeve kids movies is I just don't want them to really talk down to the kids like you can like I remember all the movies we grew up with and a lot of them. They feel like you know They they talk down to we were imbeciles watching the movie. And that's what I enjoy. It is at this. Did enough that. Even the the kids around me didn't get bored or start making noise or anything in the movie theater. Everybody was locked in. So that's my number one takeaway. Today did their job. Is that experience so when the the movie talks dumb to me though helps me recognize what's going on here and yeah I would probably put it at. Yeah I would say it's fine so like a seven is probably good. There's nothing really terrible in it There are some parts that you're like. Okay it's not for someone my age But does that mean I wouldn't watch a sequel? No you know I I would definitely watch the sequel to this movie But Yeah Yeah. It's not. It's not the complete catastrophe that we thought it was GONNA be Unlike a movie like cats which turned into the catastrophe that we thought it was going to be. And I'm actually pleasantly surprised by that. It's the world's most okays movie. It's really what it comes down to and unmemorable with me. What's up one point? Did you feel like sonic was gonna Steal Tika Sumpter from James Marston? There was definitely some sexual tension going. There was right. And that's that's this always happens to James Marsden right. Yeah absolutely has the girl and then some dude swoops in and just takes takes the sorting X. Men podcast. I did think about that that during the movie. I was like well in this movie. James Martin can't possibly lose the girl that's not true in in Superman returns was in lowest and I don't know his character's name weren't they were engaged. I think they had a kid but it was soups kid. Still they clean. And this is the Hollywood's cuck and James Morrison. I never actually thought about that until you just brought up. And now he's going through my head and I'm like get lost on that one. Yeah enchanted the thing of it is. It's that he's he's always super nights even when he loses the girl. It's never likely several. Because he's the bad guy it's like he's the bad guy that loses girls like oh well all right well. I hope there's someone out there for me is the first season of Westworld is entirely. That James gets killed the end of every day. I feel bad for him. But if James if you're listening you can live with us and we won't leave you. Wow right you can have my wife completely unintimidated by James Morrison James Marston. To be part of my life. Somehow he's again. He seems like a Super Nice Guy. He's the nicest handsome guy in Hollywood someone. Someone showed a picture of him Holding a giant gigantic umbrella might just thought well you know what he he probably has that for loved ones and he just. There's no loved ones in his life are you. Are you reading a James Martin advantage fiction? I'm just I'm trying to rising to our lives. I think I think fifty shades for you. Then maybe if we got James Marston in fifty shades Arab way I would. I would watch that. Yeah that's a good swamp. I WANNA make the end of this this podcast. I WANNA make a list of movies. I would have been better. That's a new segment would make this better. I'm all for it. Yeah made it up. Yeah sure you are to me. This movie is a six at kids are GonNa love it and more power to them It's it's better than it needs to be. I don't know maybe I'm just coming at it with a no invested interest in sonic It it was a movie I saw and I'll probably forget about. I was barely able to write the plot because I forgot what most things that happened in it. It's going to live in my short term memory for maybe week and then I it will eventually just find. Its way out. I WON'T WATCH I probably won't watch It was just fine. Jim Carey was fine. Like through the first forty five minutes and then I kinda grow grew tired of him Defying Project Real quick. I feel like they hired Jim Carey to just be Jim. Carrey from nineteen ninety five. I think that's all they wanted. He wasn't bad but he was stretched super thin by the end where he was just kind of like all right well they only had one he only had one place to go and got their super early like you went to eleven in the first scene he was in and then he had the tried sustain that for the rest of the movie. It's tough when you're asked to be a character named Dr Rohbock Net. You know it's there's really not much material to work with their and you're maniacal genius Danny Mean Egg Man Right. Dr Robot McBride is an issue. Yes yes but Edmund stuff. His name's robotic but in Japan is named Agni and I thought that was cool. How Sonic Calls Him Egghead. Egg Man and everything like that and the service that we appreciated but yeah I agree I think after awhile. It gets a little sticky with the Jim Carrey but again where world could he really go? You can't turn in a powerhouse performance. All here from ant is that they need to release foul cut yet because this is GonNa be the one film. Jeff Fowler directs for long. I'll maybe not maybe not to he'll get the sequel and who knows what else I mean. They seem to have hit on your hands. It's weird that this movie has become the The male representative in the culture wars of women versus men. Yeah this is. I think we need to Redo and figure out a better one. Yeah we need to hit the reset button. Hard on that one. But that's really like the birds of prey fans of really made this war. They started it for some odd reason. You're getting an. I was kind of disappointed in this. I before going to the movie I saw a bunch of tweets that sonic had like homophobic slurs. And everything who WanNa pick out what the slurs are just to see if people are telling the truth and I thankfully there are none but I was a little disappointed. You dislike out. Well they're liars. I wanted to see if they tried to sneak something through and then they go got him but no. This was a very clean very family friendly movie. From top to bottom so to recap. Dan is disappointed that they dropped. The the F-. I'm disappointed that these people would lie. They will go to such lengths to lie about it. I'm very that there is nothing like that in there. That would've bummed me out but I I thought to myself. Ooh This could be interesting because now I'm going to try to pinpoint what these people are talking about. Yeah there were well. Don't worry when the sequel comes out there and they're they're gonNA they're gonNA introduce tails and he's just the most racist character in the Sonic Universe. She because it's it's okay from where they come from yet. We would say certain words the Amazon. Something different there right. It's it's like how like how a certain word in like in England is a cigarette or a bundle of wood. I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT ON THE PODCAST. But we're GONNA go far with this joke. I'm just saying the middle of the road for this podcast. I'm making sure I never has never come before last episode. We don't say anything bad but we told the line and just we. We may have also insinuated that Jay Z and fiancee told Obama where the send the drone strikes as well with this. Let's bring mentioned about the time cop episode better. That was a good episode. Go back if you're listening. Go Back Yeah you could probably check out here on this one. That's fun time cop one though that one that one's going because of implications I thought it was really interesting that Dc was in this movie Comic YET SONIC READING FLASH COMICS PRETTY INTERESTING THEY. They've now shown that the flashes thing in this universe Canon now. Yay whose faster the flasher sonic. Let that maybe. We'll find out in a sequel. I hope kit three hundred miles per hour in this movie right. Yeah so flashes. Way Faster the speed force. Sonic did not go supersonic Dan. He didn't realize those samples. Yeah I went. He basically goes super saying if you've seen dragon ball or dragged Chelsea. It's the same type of deal. If he gets all six Kassim. Yeah Yeah right as one does turns yellow central and then he snaps his fingers. What happens nothing? Really? Just think fucks James Marsden already balls deep and Tika sumpter. And I can't imagine Ben Schwartz voice just going to town thing inside of Ood war the Lexus. The Utah Say I could have picked a better voice for Sonic. I agree. And he wasn't bad but it wasn't he was he was okay. Just like the rest James Morris casting as the voice casts Jalil white to reprise his role as sonic out of an underpass in the Hollywood hills. Who who you. Who Do you think would have been Basic Goldberg? Who would have been a better voice for stock? Jeremy Renner when you put me on the spot. The answers Jeremy Renner cancelled so fast. If you put Ryan Reynolds's Pitcher. I don't see why he couldn't put Jeremy. Sonic thank the baggage that goes along with Jeremy. Renner though Yeah Story. The alleged check does all his line readings with a gun. Talk Apple Jeremy. Renner store You know a product placement and they're just like hundred other things they did in this. Oh yeah products in touch yet eighty. We have to stop at the Jeremy Renner store. Before we go to the olive garden it could have been featured at the biker Bar Rustic rustic. There's nothing I'm more. Sure of that. The writer one of the writers of this move eight fought for that olive garden joke the entire time the where they say the you know they had the back and forth finishing with your family. Yeah that thing like somebody in the Rhodesian fought for that to stay in the script they probably have stock in olive garden. Dude can I get some you know? People love. Plus for Valentine's Day was the never ending but stick bouquet or whatever so maybe that's why he had the product placement. There was a couple of others but I can't remember them off the top of my Pepsi I think was Sony's pretty Dettori as for doing these obvious products don't with the power rangers they do like crispy cream and home depot and stuff like that. They had a lot of stuff Chevy truck I believe Toyota Toyota. Okay so I didn't know I'm not a car guy gave me this like come on. Dan as I said it like three times little. Chevy's your woman. How am I supposed to trustee with machinery driving? Jeez don't help him. Tom I was right. They were shifting. Clearly Chevron Chevy cars Chevrolet Express Chevrolet. There are several EPS right. So we're going to plot the Hedgehog of what we do we're gonNA take a step back and listen to a couple of words from friends of the gas so we will be right back. Hey everyone this is Steve. And this is Adam and more part of the hot nation. Usa podcast Pittsburgh's number three craft beer. Podcast join us. Every Friday for new gear reviews. We'll talk about the news history and homebrew plus. We'll sit down with the best brewers industry personalities. That'll have us so whether you're a casual drinker hazy boy hop head or even if you're a whale hunting sell order just search hop nation. Usa On apple spotify or your favorite podcast and join the nation. Ohi didn't see you there. It's me George from the best little horror house in Philly. The show where we talk about the best horror movie ever made according to our guest. At least we've talked about groundbreaking classics Texas chainsaw massacre an alien. But we've also got a lotta great ones coming up including some very fun guests like Len Cab Kinsky of swamp zombies and red letter media fame Caroline Williams the star of Texas chainsaw massacre two and Chase Williamson from John. Dies at the end. So make sure you're subscribed to the best little horror house in Philly and I'll see you boils and ghouls over there. Welcome back everybody. And it's time to get into the of sonic the HEDGEHOG. We open up in San Francisco the chase and some destruction as robotic chases sonic through the streets and is literally starts with a Yep. That's me you're probably wondering how I got myself into this situation. Not Agreeing to start because that was big when the movie was probably it was big when sonic was around. Yeah so from there. We flashback to when sonic was a young hedgehog and if this was written more recent they probably would have tried to capitalize on baby. Sonic but they didn't so he flashed back when he was young hedge hog and being taken care of bio L. Name Long Claw. Yeah I don't know People out there listening maybe can You know Tweeted the the account and let us know Is this the first appearance of this? How or is this either way? It was strange but it was something that happened right after this. That gave me hope for the rest of the movie. Yeah so maybe it's from. Sonic two thousand six But I don't know long claws now cannon and they'll probably have to read retrofitted into the upcoming summit Sonic Games move long claw warns that sonic needs to hide his secret powers or else bad people will try and capture him so basically the origin story of Elsa from frozen is taken put him into sonic. Sonic doesn't listen and a bunch of mask. The kid acuteness try to capture or kill him than long claw gives him a sack of rings that can help him teleport anywhere he wants to go and he and sends him to. Earth and long claws never seen again what you never see a body so all right good for example could be killed all the kids are going to be clamoring for more long claw his long claw. Jammie fluoride in the theater. After she died she was inconsolable for the next twenty minutes runs. Probably something that happened for Dan kid next to me was giving her tissues. It was very adorable. I don't know it's not real lady. That's what he kept saying. Not Real drawing her. Exactly what avenue? So we flash forward several years later and sonic is living in Green Hills. Montana which that's a little nod to the Green Hills Green Hills zone. That's the only thing I know about the about the game. Green Hill Zone. He's link living in secret among the townspeople and then we get to learn from his point of view Few of the towns people's names including Sheriff Akao Ski Plays by James Marsden and his wife. Mattie who is a veterinarian played by Tika sumpter and then we get crazy. Carl the only person that knows about sonic but shocks them up to just being crazy Hold on I need to interject. That was the act he actually showed. A drawing of Santic must've fast so they they were real woke. Yes so why? Is that considered woke? 'cause I don't mean I don't know. Oh okay whoa Santa thing is. It's a really really old mean. And the drawing he shows of. Sonic is that mean. Oh okay somebody on the dvr page or something or somewhere drew route Sadak. I just never took credit for it. You got a little too embarrassed but now that this movie's killing it. Nancy got eight hundred likes. Maybe he'll he'll reveal yourself as the second. I'd get thirteen hundred. Just you wait brother. I can't wait for your that. I've seen it slowdown. Though I'm stuck in each seventy six run another steam so sonic hangs out in the forest and some sort of underground cavity summit with a whole bunch of cool shit. He's got comics. Big Ads stereos. It's basically a common thief and all he really wants friends. The folks around troll Sheriff Tom at a speed trap and Tom Finds Quill that he leaves behind. Which is big and blue. And then we were a little backstory about Sheriff Tom. He gets accepted to join the San Francisco police force which is easily one of the worst career decisions ever made But he basically feels like he's a big fish small pond and has lived in greenhills his whole life but has a beautiful house which he's going to sacrifice for a three hundred square foot apartment worth forty six hundred dollars. I brought to you by Zillow. That was a product. That's right Zillow's on Mark I was Gonna say even mention it by name like I was looking at it on. Zillow the best place to find a new place to live wink. Sonic then happens upon a Little League Baseball game and watches a kid win the game and everyone's all happy and all his friends lift them up and all that kind of shit then when everybody leaves feel like. That's never been that's never happened to aunt. That's why he's just like lossing it over. That's not true actually stole home to win a baseball game when I was on that team. We have confirmation to an aunt is just like selling it back at me tonight. Goddamn this is my only former social interaction these days. So there with me and for some reason Somebody on twitter. Mark this moment up and Remind everybody that Tony Danza was tug out in the. Who's the boss opening credits? So yes it was like the guy was like yeah just reminder sonic scored ear but Tony Danza was out at home plate. And I'm like okay. I don't see the comparison here. That's a long grudge to hold. Yeah it was like somebody that's l. That GARAGE. Since he's the boss was on the air and he knows what he did. Finally I under account. That's why he died. In angels in the outfield knows. Where did where did he died in the outfield? He winds up dying eventually. He only gets like another six months or something like that as we all do. Officially die strew So after everybody leaves. Sonic does a whole bugs by routine after the game where he plays himself in baseball. But it's a super hollow exists in being the world's only blue alien hedgehog so he runs around the basis really fast with no specific goal in mind and then gets really electrical and sends out an emt of sorts and then that's all the power out in the Pacific northwest the blackout gets the attention the US government who thinks that could terrorist or some bunch of other explanations. The contract the job out to Dr. Ivo Robotic played with Jim Carey the greatest technology mine in the world has advanced drone technology and should be able to figure out what happened so robotic arrives in greenhills Vian enormous ticky camper with a team of smarmy assholes shows up when he talks down to neal McDonough. Who's playing an army major for the only for some reason and now I wonder if he had a bigger role and then they were like. Yeah you know what we only need you seen. I mean he's got a huge star but one of those faces like A. Hey I know that guy from something I don't know I don't remember what it is but I know that guy think he was in the street fighter movie right. The streetfighter reboot or something like that. He plays M Bison doesn't he he's all he's everywhere you think he is not but he's everywhere. I don't know if that's true though. He's a Canon now Dan. That's that's fact that he's the Internet works mouth. Oh Okay Fair. Enough for instance either and it becomes fact. If it's on a podcast. It must be true. It's everybody else's responsibility to prove your point point sending backtracking your coffee. I like I feel like he's a pretty good character actor right and anything you see him in. He's usually. He has a pretty good range. If I remember correctly yeah I forget when he was. He's he's in a bunch of I think he was in Captain America. Yeah he's like captain he's Dum Dum Dugan. Yep that's right. He was so good in that movie. I remember so much about him. Jim Carrey This is a full on Jeffrey. Combs and reanimator appear performance of ever seen one and robotic sends out his army of drones to find the cause of the blackout. And eventually it closes in on Sonic's home when he escapes and tries to find a place to hide. In order to engage those those Rings to go to the mushroom planet that he doesn't WanNa go to see. I thought this is the mushroom planet cannon. I think it was a reference to Super Mario Brothers. That's what I was thinking. I was thinking that the end credit sequence might have brought in Super Mario. I read that it's actually from sonic and knuckles Yes supposedly that's worth knuckles so I don't know if they're setting that up for the future. Maybe that's what I've heard. Does it played the game the introduction of knuckles and sonic three that robotic use 'em to try and kill sonic so that would make sense if they were setting that up. Okay so sonacare. Tom's house and hides out in the garage before he gets ready to use. Teleporting your house Tom. Lord and Everything. Dona has another thing. Sonic Calls Tom. Donut Lord. No Movie Jen and I were talking about this on the ride home. Because again I brought up the whole the tweets from the birds of prey fans so was the donut. Lord the Homophobic Slur. I Dunno now right. 'cause are we over thinking it. I didn't I didn't read the tweet that you read. So it's hard for me to tell it I one of them was kinda crazy. It's basically You know I took my family to see sonic the hedgehog. Hymns appalled by the homophobic slurs. That were being hurled so we went and saw birds of prey instead and had a great time. Will you took your kids to see an R. rated movie that sounds like a joke tweets me literal? No I don't maybe it was. I don't know slash S. After the I it was it was it was a person with the birds of prey a icon. So it's very possible now was I don't know now. Listen you're making me question reality here. It's right I don't fuck out of you you are and I don't like it so I'm GonNa ask you to stop doing it. Ultra you're dating dating Smith and you guys aren't real man will don't do it. Please stop it. Please having sonic in Tom's house then Tom's house and Tom's wife. Mattie is over in San Francisco visiting her sister and looking at apartments matty's sister for some reason hates Tom's guts and I think we all yes. She's the worst character in this movie. I found her funny. I did not I I like some of. I'd like when she got tied up if they kind of showed why she hated him so much a little bit more. Maybe it would have been better but I mean they do show you. I does look at James Marston Shelly. I've just look at him and then look at them. Are you saying she? She wants to break herself off. A piece of James Marsden. Is that why you think maybe it was like one of those things where they were Mattie and the sister at a bar and James Marston was there and like the the sister was like. Aw You know. He's fine his mother fucker. I'm GonNa go get me some of James Marsden and then James Marsden took a liking to Mattie instead Kinda like how Seymour. Skinner fell in love with the voice. You are writing fan fiction. I E SCAPE. The simpsons references. How do we do John? John Wall and Tom One of Dan's rea instagram and saw someone else named John and seven. I saw okay Steph. We get it wrong. We do Simpson's references at least once and for those at home Steph. Is Jen sister? That's a little behind the scenes Easter egg for you guys jokes so again. Tom Hears a noise in his garage. Kuhn so he's goes into shoot it with a trank but sonic and he opens up a portal. The San Francisco and drops a bag of rings on the transamerica pyramid before the portal closes. And he passes out so it sound puts them in a cage. Sonic eventually wakes up and walks right out of the cage and they kind of this is their meet cute and they just talk about. Hey some guys are coming for me and I lost my bag rings and I could talk and I'm weird blue jog. Tom's like that's crazy and then some German show up and he's like you gotta hide me. This is crazy in Tom's like this. Is CRAZY ITEM MY ATTIC? This is actual dialogue from the movie. Yes more or less manage crazy. Yeah Yeah it's it's a he. He's the most trusting cop I've ever seen. He doesn't really question much because he's like a sheriff in a real small town so he knows everybody I now want to. I don't know why he would want to leave right. That's such a sweet gig man. An instant especially to go to San Francisco Places Schiphol. It's become a beat cop in San Francisco. He Says I. I just want to walk the B. and help people no one's GonNa like you in San Francisco. Tom's getting shot like I. I'm I stay on the job right because he's very gullible. So you're dude. I need your help man start talking to a doughnut and get his ass off just crazy and then someone s for sure. Yeah Yeah it's like e even sonic who has. No friends was the one that was basically. What the Fuck Dude. He's the voice of reason in the situation so he hides sonic in his his attic and robotic is snooping around outside. And I was like you know. Fuck you doing outside my house. Can I help you and robotics like I think? He says he's like what the gas company or the Electric Company here to investigate Blah Blah Blah. And Tom sees right through that. And they kind of have their own dick measuring contests and dislike. I want to come in is like you can't and then and I feel he shows them his badge doesn't he? He does remember getting ready to shoot him with one of the The drones and he goes. You can't do this cop and again Rabbani says he's heard. Isa's like something about of course I can because you never existed or something. He was gonNA erase him. So robotic eventually goes to leave and then he sees the giant blue quill and then realizes something's not up sums not right on the drones show up and they're about to shoot Tom and Tom. Punches robotic in the face and the drone shoots the fuck out of the house and Tom and sonic get the fuck. Outta dodge the port. I LOVE HIS SONIC JUMPS OUT. And Cause me take me. Take me whatever. And then just floods robotic slim. Okay he just guy just told you he was like some kind of government official and you just punch across the face for this thing. You just met. He doesn't look like a government official. No yeah right and he just lied about being part of the electric company. You don't know what he's doing. Any showed up with drones. June goddamn house. Drone drones drones. That's a deep cut right there. I don't know if we're going to get that. It's fun I figure it out. It's got it. That's all the singer complaints to at decline one. Twenty two please do I look forward to it so sonic Tom hit the road? It's on existing. San Francisco treat as Bagger. Rings tells Tom that it's his fault. The rings are there so he has to help them get San Francisco. It sounds like that's true so I guess I guess I gotta go. He felt bad but shooting him just like well. He's got me did the rights. I did kind of let shoot them and then let his bag fall on the portal like. Hey Sonic here's a map to get the San Francisco and had to get to the TRANSAMERICA building. Just follow this Google map quest for. Yeah Yeah I like how they tried to right around the fact that he could have gotten there and five seconds but he just didn't know how to get there that was actually one part in the movie to maybe Laugh out loud. A little bit was when he tells me just go. West is just a straight shot west and runs back when he comes back with efficiency and essentially it was like a like listen to his literal directions and just kept running west along with the children in our theater. Kick out of that too. So that makes you feel. That's funny. Listen it was funny you would you? Would you stop being such a knows this not being such a nice guy? Yeah I get it understand. That's funny stuff. Stop it I am beside myself with laughter and okay so I hit the road. First UP ON THE ROAD TOM GOES TO GAS STATIONS US payphone to get snacks and meanwhile sonic sneaks off to a neighbouring biker bar and then he starts having a good time. Tom Finds them and sonic start making a buck list of things he wants to do before he leaves air so they get into a bar fight a giant bar fight and this includes a moment like quicksilver in this X. Men Movies where sonic just girls around the bar and does hilarious stuff to everybody in there? Yeah the kid next to me absolutely loved the Selfie. Seen Cool what he sides up and hits us at like that. That kid didn't make much in terms of laughing or applauding but he had a belly laugh about that for the rest of that scene. Did you ask him to come on the PODCAST SPLEEN? What self are what's a Selfie? Missed Opportunity Mark. We could have gotten a key. Demographic there'll be sure but I WANNA try now. He's we passed over it. Real fast is I actually liked Adam. Police performance as the the the basically the COP. That didn't really know what he was doing. Deputy Yeah Yeah I did get a chuckle out of the When power goes out and he calls. Marsden won't do I relax and then and then call all these people. It was okay. What was the first thing? He told me to do. Relax and he just sits back and doesn't think reminds me of me because that's exactly what I would die. I'm not doing anything. So they can. To fight with a bunch of bikers eventually they amps cray after Sonic Kinda freezes time. Basically in kind of moves everybody around They they high tail it out of their good at a motel after the bar fight and Tom sees the last thing on sonics a bucket list as he's tucking inside the go to sleep all he really wants to make a real friend this is. Dan started crying because I can associated with that. I want a real friend. That's true. Yeah one day you'll get one of those. I hope so thirty three. I could use one right now. You you you when you get to. Nine hundred likes on that eighty one nineteen real friend. Keep talking that shit and I'm coming for you brew So on the road again. The next day robotic tracks them down and six drones on Tom's car destroys the truck entirely removing the hood of the entire the entire cab of the truck but Sonic Content. Tom Team UP TO DESTROY. Rob Robotics drone. It's basically one giant grown anytime to destroy a piece of it gets smaller and more basic until eventually. It's just a flying kind of paying little handheld like about the size of a golf ball drum and then I like that. They introduced the rolling. Hit something mechanic from the Games and has spent attack. Excited just had no idea what was going on. This was the first instance of the FOs. The also the slimming down of the enemy is kind of thing from the Games too. Yeah so it gets more and smaller. He F- losses at one point when he destroys it which was one of two losses eventually. the final drone blows up though and sonic gets knocked out so tom has to drive all the way to San Francisco and a truck with no tab as well as a knockout. Sonic eventually arrives at Mattie sister's house and as we mentioned Mattie sister hates Tom and shows up with cycle his arms tried to hide it but then the dog kind of pulled off the blankets and reveal the. Oh my God. We have a giant Alien Hedgehog Mattie works on Sonic but he just sort of eventually just sorta wakes up out of it. I don't really remember them doing anything SPECIAL SMELLING SALTS. The right that seek bounces around the room. That's right they should have just shot them with adrenaline. Like pulp fiction for the kid does it. Does it look like I have dead. Hedgehog storage on from long. Yeah because different parts of pulp fiction. What's fun could've meshed it? You've sandbagging me. Do Sandbags your entire. Podcast I'm not going to stand for it. Being up he wakes up and Matty's niece gives him his iconic red shoes and they tie up my sister and steeler car and they for some reason let sonic drive the car and to the TRANSAMERICA building and sneak onto the roof using some hijinks cooing Tom. Waving his his badge. Around as if that's going to get him anywhere in San Francisco but for some reason does and they're able to grab the rings off the roof just as robotic shows up with his drones so sonic kicks and Tom off the building and he's one of his rings is in the back the Green Hills and then we pick back up where he where the beginning started and we see Sonic and robotic fighting in San Francisco and then through the use of a bunch of rings sonic jumps through a bunch of different locales Paris capable of China etc eventually winds up back in Green Hills where robotic essentially has sonic on the ropes about to finish them off. When Tom and the other townspeople come to Sonics Aid? Sorta like Was Spiderman is. That was that one every single movie Roman. You must have all of us. That's true that's but they said that's our sheriff in our. We're Blue Alien Guy Roy for the mall other for Spiderman. That's amazing spider. Man That C Thomas Howell with all the Afterwards that's the word one. Don't tell that to the people on twitter. For some reason they love them some amazing Spiderman. Yeah people got rose colored glasses or a lot of shitty comic book movies. Do THEY DO So sonic then eventually goes electric again manages kick robotic through a portal into the mushroom planet. And that's the end of robotic he gets sent there and the portal closes and then they celebrate sonic. I think this is where sonic does he floss again. Believe later. Oh is it when they reveal his new his attic apartment. All that's right that's right. Yeah Dallas the most realistic moment of showing that he's like a teenager sorta because as I said I have I leases around the no eight thirteen and they will just randomly break into some dance just while standing there and you're talking to them more. You know your your cooking dinner something you just turn around. They'll just be dancing for no reason So him just breaking out that flaws because he got the The new crib Was like Oh. Yeah that I've seen a million times that's absolutely with somebody in this generation would do. The weight of the world has been crushed them yet. That's why they can dance whenever they want more. That's true yeah So he sort of gets adopted by Tom and Mattie and he decided they they decide to stay in green they move all sonic stuff into the attic and then the government shows up and gives them a an olive garden gift card to stay silent about the whole affair and the final closing of that joke. That's been throughout the movie. Yeah that's the that's the important joke got like. Oh we nailed it. Yeah and we skipped over. Tom had mentioned was that while they were painting. The house There was a slow piano version of the sonic the Hedgehog Song. I missed an opening credits. Yeah yeah real soft piano. Sorta ray if you weren't if you weren't lists like if you didn't know what the sonic music was. You've never noticed guide. You would've missed and Jenny. Got Up in my clapped when they played it. It was kind of embarrassed. 'cause all the other kids really did you sit down man crooning the movie. Bam insured by waited thirty years for this okay. I had to kind of cover my face a little bit but listen. She enjoyed it. That's all that matters yet. She's suddenly she ruined your Valentine's Day wouldn't be the first time God. That's that's it for Gen on this podcast selective in my life I think signing off forever and then we get an end. Credit scene includes tales coming to Earth. Find Sonic and then we get a robot. Nick Shaven his head on the Mushroom Planet. And just being like. I'm going to be home box Christmas yet turning turning into the robotic that everybody knows and the bigger picture moustache moustache and that's that sonic the Hedgehog I honestly think people in my theatre There was more of a reaction from people. Sitting around me from the adults entail showed up then. The kids was funny because the king where we saw. I think we were expecting it. Yeah you're either expecting tails or knuckles right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I was saying plot wise if they were going. When I saw that there was a scene I was like. It's going to one of two people. They're either going to have tails. Come out. Which is the obvious choice if you're going to do a sequel which they're obviously going to do a sequel with how much money dismayed Or you're going to bring out someone like Amy rose have female has hug. You know for the You know I feel like nobody knows who amy rose is now do is that the chickey makes out with like the real human check. No that was I don't know if that's cannon anymore kissy human lady scattered. I've heard about governor amy. Roses a pink Hedgehog Take Pink Hedgehog does attic apartment and yeah. She's from Sonic CD. She's going to ask James Marston. And Tika Sumpter to just give him twenty minutes. Just don't don't cramp style please. If I have a ring on the outside of the door that means I'm busy and she's infatuated with with sonic Then she could bend the rules of time and space or something crazy like that right Yeah she has like a gigantic hammer or was there was a good death battle with her and What what's the what's the girl's name from? Scott Pilgrim NO FIONA FIONA Ramona. That's what it was remote from. They fought they fought each other. Because Ramona has a person has a she has a bag holding essentially. Yeah and then the same thing with the. What's The lady hedgehogs name? Ab Rose Eurozone she. Yeah she's able to bend continuity something. You're lines yeah. Her thing in the video games can triple jump. Who Like most women? I don't know if you know they're exactly yeah. It was like literally they ran out of powers I was like Oh this is like the fifth character. We've introduced God. She can jump real high. Yes was right. Can't a princess peach jump very high or she could glide or something. Yes yeah all. The girls get weird jumping powers. Yes kinda Kinda sexist. If he asked me I don't I don't agree with it guys. Luigia IS JUMPING HOURS TOO. So cares about the. Ouija it just kind of whatever known really cares. I guess I'd still love somebody's theory. That while the we we ju- just the same person. It's just a fight club situation that interesting so I was thinking about doing this. Pa- jen doesn't like the idea because it would mean she would have to do it. What if I 'cause played as robotic at the end? That COULD BE PRETTY COOL. It but who would she be? Amy Roz obviously Tika sumpter. A fix matty James Marsden. She could be James Morrison Gender Bench. James Mars just turned Dan on full yard. Went to sick from six to midnight. Scandal went from midnight to six women. Can't do I don't know if you know the female physiology nope but you're incapable of getting that way midnight. Yeah I don't either unless there's something I don't know anyway so the end of this movie What did you think of? It was a good ending? There was some pretty cool shots in this movie. I thought when when sonic goes super saying and you you have the Robotic ship in the background coming out of the the The rain and it's all black and red. It looked cool to me. There's a couple of cool shots but someone in this movie so masters of the universe before I think everybody saw it. It's a right of passage that movies too. Good I did you know I. It's a kids movie. I liked it as a kid movie as a regular movie I would not have enjoyed it but you go in thinking it is what it is and I think it was a good video game. Movie overall our mortal combat more but. I think it's probably my favorite video game movie I've ever seen up there. Aren't there aren't a whole lot of options? Honestly but JEN JEN's a big Mario Brothers Fan. The original Mario brothers she loves that star. There's only one. She likes their name. Mario Mario and Luigi Mario Reme- well. I just figured you were. I not very taboo to talk about Mario brothers and I just you know I figured it needs to be out there. You're weird. You're the one who looks Mario Brothers. I guess that's your Your Bay Mario who played Who Played Mario Hoskins? That's my day and and Dennis Lota whatever such a movie. So bad yeah. I agree with Tom. I haven't seen detective pitcher yet to see that but from everyone that express. You haven't seen that you are all about it you rely. I'm going first week. I kept trying to set up a time this disco Take my nieces. And they had all sports all weekend when I could do. And then it just went out of theaters in you know This was the only movie sonic I was like when I saw that terrible I charm obscene it opening weekend absolutely you know I was the opposite. I said as soon as soon as they said. Oh we're going to change the way it looks like okay. I'll go see it as soon as I can. I was. I was the only time I've ever been mad about missing out on a movie opening weekend that I was GonNa Jokingly go see was what I found out that they patched cats after the first week God damn it could spoil the terrible missing special effects thing and been part of that. You know situation. How much do they really change about that? Honestly some of the cats at human hands I think Dame Judi dench had like senior splotch fan. Yeah I had to make a special arrangement with JEN. Sees movie opening weekend? I had to agree to be on the game. Volt podcast to do it so she did not want to see moving at all. Yeah she as you can tell. It's it was very difficult to get her. Go see this man. We're doing this because you guys this. We're doing this because you guys have a video game. Podcast agenda covered erects. I mean that movie is not going anywhere. It's still there. Yeah the Yeah this This movie I I don't know it's one of those things. Where with the release date? I don't know if they had like a list of dates and some person in marketing went. Yeah let's do the joke date of Valentine's Day you know you're just like they need four months to do to extend everything this was very much like they would have put it out in the mid to late March. Just get it and Q. On I I just think I feel like if they did that now. Let's do Valentine's they would've done like a dead pool. Esq marketing campaign. So that's the joke calling calling attention to the joke. Is THE JOKE THEM. Just being like all right we'll for the fourteenth of February is coming out with. That's not a joke. We'll stay. Listen to this podcast. They probably would have done that. It probably is probably more to do with President's Day weekend. Yeah Yeah you get the four day box sense. Yeah what do you guys do to make this better? Jan? What would you have done? We were talking about it earlier. maybe I feel like the whole James Martin was a terrorist and all of sudden. Just kidding everything's fine like I feel like for kids movie. Obviously they're not gonNA button up everything like that but maybe if they could have showed showed how they undid that a little bit. I don't know that was something that just goes on. Trial Scoop pointed a terrorist need or even lake when the government shows up. And they're like hey just letting you know we've pulled some strings and I don't even know that was just like stood out like a sore thumb to me Other than that maybe just thrown in a couple more Easter eggs. You guys were pointing out a lot more than what I noticed so maybe it just because I know nothing about sonic but I don't know I feel like I wouldn't really ask for much to change because it was a good kids movie you know. Yeah Tom What about you? Trying to think like like Jensen. There actually are a lot more Easter eggs in that than I even talked about. I think he actually eats Chili dog at some point. Yeah right yeah yeah marks. Is it considering? It's a kids movie. You don't really have to Repti- everything like that but I feel like the government people. Finding the robotic is like a crazy person that could have added something like that in 'cause they kinda just because just show like they don't they don't realize he's a bad guy. I don't know it's pretty obvious that he is. I know but it's just like why would government call on this guy? He's a has a song in his is van. Or whatever that said evil playlist or whatever it's The the breaker it says Evil Lab on. Ya Yeah the. Us government isn't privy to a lot of things they make mistakes. Yeah but I feel like they didn't overdo sonic as much as as dumb as it sounds. Because you could very easily overdue a character when it's based around them But they didn't like go over the edge with sonic. They didn't make him. I feel like once also once they changed the way he looked before hand before the movie came out it. Probably ease the lot that that. That Attention to people weren't looking for that. That's true anything else now. I Yeah I don't I wouldn't change a whole lot just just a little little more story of why robotic is bad instead of just he's bad Yeah yeah there's not there's not much I would have Changed Either Short of their parts in the story. I being an adult. I would want to dive into a little bit more on. We've mentioned most of them I would like to see neal. Mcdonald's character a little bit more As like some type of FOIL TO ROBOT. Nick not not in terms of a like every so often you know they try and do something and robotic stops the more you know cuts off like. Sorta more thing between them one side While they're in Green Hills would have been nice just and because I think it was completely under used to having him in this movie Yeah there's not even really any casting stuff I think. Ben Schwartz was fine I think they had to. I think he did a good job and they did a good job. Actually giving sonic more of a backstory in terms of his personality. That I've seen in any of the other media I've seen of sonic where they just show. How lonely he is You know because he's got to stay in hiding so he makes up these fake friendships and gives them nicknames in watches movies with them. You know you know go goes in does all the stuff. But he's not you know completely gung Ho sums up. Sonic like he knows when the baseball playoffs are and you know. He's like a part of the town but nobody knows about it and they sorta I thought they played into that more than I thought they would. especially being a kids movie You know in that sense That was good at that would have been. You know something I would have explored if they didn't maybe show another sign of You know anything else from a little bit more sonic lower. You know maybe maybe have I don't even know what to do. maybe when he no no no no meaning of my sentence with the Baby when he gets to read choosy runs faster. That could have been something but Yeah they'd have to do much really perfect kids movie. I think they're going to completely overdo it in the sequel but also say it like it's going to have knuckles in. It's going to have tails and you know it's GonNa be way overdone because false and go. He's going to do the With the other dance called the bring back the dougie. They're gonNA they're just gonNa keep going backwards. That's yeah was it the Milly Walker something like that You're asking the wrong. You know there was a there was a there was another Charleston a monkey. That's it that's what it was the charts. He's going to do the Charleston on top of the Empire State Building Booking. I wouldn't do anything to make this better. This movie is not for me. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA bother. It's fine some people probably love it not for me I guess. I don't say what I want to say. So you say whatever you want it myself I guess okay so good. One amid eight eighty seven by the way he warned you get a real friend so close I the only thing I'd change is sonic steals James Marston. Wife and Parsons like cool with it. Listen I I can't say I'm on board with this. Goddamn do I respect you? I mean street trigger. Well Read Sonic. It is twenty twenty We can have open relationships. Yeah that'd be interesting. If we turned the Apollo relationship in this movie we can. We can definitely be a throw people but but then size just goes no dude. This is like a AV conversation. So see your way out of it. He just kind of like slowly phases. Marsden out of the whole relationship at the end of the movie. And he's he just. He sends him on a one way ticket to somewhere. I don't know some crazy location with one of the rings weightless amendment. We should go on vacation together. And he dislike throws the ring. Like oh I just gotta get something. I'll be right back and he just shoves him into the ring. Doctor strange style discharges right like the Arctic and the last scene is just Marcin screaming saw and then Marsden turns into robotic. That'd be great. If if if Marsden robotic the whole time but they were friends and an apology relationship with their wife and then sonic phases. Marsden out of the three people lockney becomes the robot. Nick we we know and love. I think we did it again. I is we do this every week. Of course like this this movie like the sequel would be probably a robotic versus sonic but the first movie would obviously have to have very hardcore sex scenes. Yeah yeah it would be. You know very out. He goes out stops. Crime back to the Attic for Penetration Crime Penetration Crime Penetration and this goes on. For Ninety minutes cured the sixties are really drawn out like body of evidence and the Sun at Sonic. Never got the redesigned. So he's got those human teeth and now he looks for some reason. You draw you just. You stepped over the line. They're just bearing as orgasms an Schwartz voice. Terrible just terrible. That's that's the Gen is cringing right. Now I'm regretting so many of my choices today just now actually being on the podcast seeing the movie marrying Dan ever meaning any of us. It's a Cornucopia of regret. You're sure you want him on our podcast. Right Nice Guy. Why why would we want a nice guy gets very? I guess. That's that's going to wrap it up. You guys want to plug the game vault. Podcast sure we are on all social media stuff at game. Ball pod on twitter at Game Vol podcast on Instagram You can find our actual podcast on all your favorite podcasting APPS I on I tunes Google. Play all those We also stream a few times a week every other Monday. We stream are Retro Roulette Game. Which is our retro game. We pick at random from my shelf And Thursdays is kind of grab bag. So we're still trying to figure out who wants to play. What win so this will go up on Thursday morning so that should be the next one that streams yup should be streaming tonight then Most likely be marker Jenny but We'll figure that out The twitch channel is twitch DOT TV slash the game ball podcast. Because I couldn't get anything to match so it's all different Dan You had some plugs this week right. Did I wanted to plug a good friend of ours. 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That's so sad in the future when we had when we could put gifts on tombstones. That's GonNa be that's GonNa Be Yours. I would've deserved it. That's something I really took effort to to put on there and it's that's that's what I'll be remembered as complex stranger dame's as well Marcia Well up a plugged. The the Stranger Dini's twitter at Stranger Damian and the instagram same thing stranger demonize for all the Awesome tweets awesome artwork. So if you have any artwork or if you WANNA talk to us just. Dms HIT US up. We'll be more than happy to speak with you. Guessing police and there were some artwork at Jen's running out of things that you're all wheel. It's up some things from the community here so we lose over mark you WanNa plug your new stranger damage project yet. He has so yes so. I'm doing the probably insane thing because you know I don't have anything else to do On top of editing in posting stranger Davies every Wednesday We're coming up on the session that gets into episode one hundred Lots of crazy stuff happened over the next month year but I've also started a wicky. Ah for strangers. Amy's it's stranger daime. Is I believe that. Fandom DOT COM yes. I'm Ron Burgundy so right now I just did basic stuff just to kind of fill the pages. So that the to`real stop bothering me So if you WANNA go and add stuff in there feel free I I gotta make separate pages for each of you Meaning the The Wild stallions themselves. So if somebody was going to do that for me on the community feel free but late now very basic so hopefully by I would imagine the end of the month. It might look a little better so Beyond lookout for that. I think it's Stranger. Dash Jamie's DOT COM DOT COM So Yeah yes. 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Save the Cat! Writes a Bookstore Plus Book Pics by Park Road Books

"Welcome to Charlotte readers podcast authors. Give voice to the written words this the show where Charlotte area authors and those who visit the Queen city, and we hear them read their work. Our sponsor from the very beginning has been continues to be park books. The oldest and only independent bookstore in Charlotte. If you love books park road books as the place for you, please stop by the store to buy local for your next great read the stores right there in Parker shopping center with the big blue letters. Speaking of Parkway books today, we have a bonus episode Fitschen conversation with our sponsor about running an independent bookstore and working with book lovers and authors. And we also take a peek at some of their spring and summer book suggestions, they will give voice to their written words of others. And when they're done you'll have a list of some engaging books to buy at Parker books, of course for yourself and your loved ones, you can find out more about the podcast at our website. Charlotte has podcast dot com. But enough with a preface to this episode. Let's get to the good stuff. I'm your host Landis. Wade. Thank you for listening. We visit today with Sally Brewster the under Parkway books and Shawna Morgan one of the members of the staff many of, you know, about Parker books, but you may not know the whole story, and you may not know what it's like an independent bookstore. We're going to talk today about the story Parfitt books bookstore business and the Betson books for you to read the spring and summer softest said that right is a spice in life. That's true and running a bookstore in his true about books. You might find interesting to read in this episode will taste of writing books in the suggestions that go with them in the book mind, if folks Parker books you can listen without taking notes because a full list of books. Gestures is going to be in the show notes at Charlotte, raiders, podcast dot com. Okay. Time to turn to page one. Sally. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you so much Shawna. Welcome. Thank you for having us. So Sally a set in the opening. The Parker books is the oldest and only independent bookstore in Charlotte. What does that mean to you to be the oldest and only independent bookstore? I mean, do you feel like you're like the guardian of some important species? It might off that. Yes. Some responsibility to keep this thing going, or is this something else drives you this is a labor of love. I absolutely can't imagine not going to Parker books every day every week day and opening up and seeing our wonderful staff and all the books and new books coming in. But it makes me really sad. I think city the size of Charlotte should have more independent full service independent bookstores so Shawna your there five days a week. You're one of the. What's it like to work for Sally? You can tell the truth. Don't worry. I'm the third child east of the bad news. Yeah. I think something that Sally does really well as encourage us to do what we need to do. Like, we are welcome. We are encouraged to branch out from our normal book reading were encouraged to try new things and to try to bring the full full demographic to the store. And so I think solid doesn't really good job of of driving us forward. Although she does tend to be a little bit controlling about what she likes her store. But that's she's the ball. She. Yeah. Absolutely. And usually she's right which. Bookstore. Sean if you want to be in charge. Exactly unusually the suggestion is something that she's heard before and has tried before. Absolutely, absolutely. But but the s she's a very encouraging boss. So remember that will review now? Absolutely. But that's also the reason why I'm not the manager. So. So we want to talk just a moment about the of things at independent bookstores can do for reader that Amazon. Can't do. Okay. You help people find books. Right. We do every day. That's our joy algorithm. Can't do what we do. And how do you do it? I mean, so I come in. I don't know what I want to read. But I kind of have an idea you pick my brain. What do you do we say, what are the what are some of the books that you've read that you loved and one of the some of the books that you've read recently that you've disliked and that way it gives us a little indication of what direction to go in. And the best thing about the store is we have somebody for everybody. Reading wise. John row is we group think you know, I've I've struck out with this customer. What else can you think of for great horror that has short stories or you know, something out of the norm? And we also have a money back guarantee. If you try. By the book, and you don't like it bring it back within thirty days. And I'll give you back your money. Dog. You're too much. We don't want any coffee stains on it. And the dog has taken a bite out highlighting right? Yeah. Highlighting fuming. Not. No. You also do things that Amazon does the people may not realize you you can order books of people. Right. Sean and people what they call your stop by just say hell when order this book or yeah. Yeah. We order books every day. They usually come in just two to three business days with a few exceptions. But for the most part, that's our standard. There's no shipping costs because we get it sent straight to the store or people. Remember that you can pick up the phone or stop by. And they'll order it to and Sal, it, you do something interesting to, you know, this audio book phenomenon right, y'all even get that for people. Right. Absolutely. Is that work talking about we've been partnering with Libro? So it's an alternative for people that want to read or listen to books instead of reading them. It's very popular. It's really an expanding market it. It's a really great app. It's. It works. Just like the the big one audible where you download an app you purchase the books through their website. And they download straight to your phone on the app is free. The way that the membership works is it's fourteen ninety nine a month. If your first month for signing up is only ninety nine cents and you get a book for ninety nine cents. Libro helps support independent bookstore. Right. So so it's a way for people to support an independent bookstores. They still want to listen to an audio. The we got a nice little I wouldn't say it's a huge amount of money every month. But we love the people at Libro. And I I listen to audio books on my commute on trips. Love nonfiction podcast, you listen to Charlotte. Hot. I like, it's a small company. If if I emailed somebody, I know exactly who I'm speaking to it's really easy to sign up. It's just Libro dot FM slash park road books. Good. We're gonna get to your book suggestions, some spring and summer book reads in just a minute before we do that. I know the two of you have heard of the book, save, the cat writes novel, right? Yeah. Riders authors are doing this thing. I thought we would use that just a second to explore the story of Parker books. Let me tell you how we're gonna do that. Because I had warned you. So first of all let me tell the listeners about this book. Then heard say, the cat writes a novel. I heard about it at a Shaw lit class on humor writing without the Tracy Curtis. Who by the way, appears in season one of the podcast. She recommended the book, and I've heard about it. So I went and read it originally say the cat was a book about the formula for writing plays save the Katherine novel by just Brody, which I'm sure can get pocketbooks talks about how to apply this formula writing. Now, let's say formula. Hey, no. We shouldn't have a former. Dirty war. But really it means a structure that over time. People who read found compelling, right? Chris got three acts. And so they're always three accident. You get story. So while the name say the cat for the title. Well, this is the fun part of this because stories involve an arc where the protagonist starts out as one thing. Maybe there brooding diminished shallow, whatever. But over time they change for the change to work. Sometimes the protagonist is really an asshole early on. Absolutely. And so for the first ten or fifteen twenty pages. I can't stand this person. So what are they come up with to make you stay with this person? Well, the head him say the cat from a tree or something season, hassle b b likes cats. You know? So that's that's where say the cat comes from. So I thought it'd be fun to think about Parker books as part of this three act play. I said I didn't want one you about this. But so act one usually enact one there's an s a life changing events that happens to the hero that sets them on a path. Okay. Sal, you're the hero here. What was the inciting incident for you? Starting Parker books. I left the publishing world when my company got bought out by another company, and I had envisioned my life in this publishing world is publishing company. And all of a sudden, I got thrown for a spin. But luckily, I knew John Barringer who in the little professor, which is now park, right bucks. And. He said come work for me while I find a buyer for the store, and so that was my life changing incident was moving from the publishing world into the ha ha real world. Right. Right. And also in this act one of a book, there's usually some debate that goes on the heroes. Hitch should I do this is this dangerous? Will it be worth it? Did you have doubts at that point time when you're about to buy this store about on man? I told John Barringer that anybody that would buy a bookstore now is insane. And I was that crazy person year was the it was an one thousand nine hundred nine that I agreed to buy it and box stores were at their height. We had a borders Barnes and noble media. Play Joseph Beth booksellers. There were eight independent bookstores in Charlotte at the time the market was really saturated. So you had your doubts. I Sean get you a minute. 'cause you're gonna play a part in this story as well. There's always a theme in a novel. And usually there's you know, what does the hero won't what's their goal? It could be saved the farm. Protect the country from terrorists. There goes my fun. I gotta stop that. Hugh. Turn off everything except I might have to go back a turn off everything except the computer fund. So I'm gonna get back to there's always a thing. So there's always a thing in a novel. What does it? He wrote won't what's their goal is. It could be saved the farm protect the country from terrorist. Or you know, when somebody's love or something. So what was your goal for the store? Michael up was love will find a way because I had a love of hand selling books. I did it when I was a sales rep. And I wanted to do that in Charlotte. I wanted to make people happy I wanted new books to come in my life every day and love did find a wet and you wanted to successful store. So you continue do, of course, everybody. You gotta pay the bills you have to be a business person we have to be practical to, but then she found out about this. When I read this book, and it makes sense because it happens to somebody. Now is you don't realize that there's actually two Porsche to the fame. One is saving the form or making the bookstore. Successful for example. But the other is. Is what does the hero really need? What will fix their life? Well, we'll make their arc. Interesting. How they go from this person that was one person and to another person. Now, we're we're really psychoanalyzing here. You can really you can talk about in terms of the store talking about what did you in Parker books? Need to complete the arc of your story. I needed to become more social of a person. Actually, I was used to being by myself and selling people one on one I wasn't used to managing employees paying bills being a business owner, that's really interesting to me because every other person that walks in the door Sally knows their name. I mean, she knows everybody that walks in the store just about so orchestrating to get there. Interesting that hearing that she didn't have those skills when she first started everybody, I run into my mother's a big she buys half your books, but you know, in she always, oh Sally knows all the books. She comes to she'll tell everybody with all the books are, you know? So you get out to the books circuit, right? And you get to the book clubs, and I will go anywhere to talk about books. I hear that folks. She'll go anywhere to talk about books. All right. So we know the inciting incident the debate we've got themes here act to this is where we see that he wrote in their new world and the new world is running a bookstore. This is where they say in saves. The cat writes, a novel, the funding games take place, you know, were introduced to new and supporting characters here's what you can show them, the staff, the loyal, customers, etc. This is also where the bad guys close in. And sometimes we're all his loss before the hero with the help of the supporting characters fans their way, right? Go. Do we set that up? So Shah, let's talk. Let's talk about the villains for a minute is Amazon a bad guy. Amazon is a bad guy. I mean, I think that's pretty easy to prove. I know that for some people it is important, and that some people do use it because Amazon has made itself the only source for certain things, but as far as books go, there's plenty of other places to get them just makes the heroes work more difficult writing, the independent bookstore and Sally is running it when you get Amazon out there. They're making, you know, you're thinking, oh, they'll never they'll never survive. This books can have a terrible ending. Right. So so what do you do? What are the supporting characters due to help? Sally in this arc to make sure that the independent bookstore works and stays alive. Well, the biggest thing is customer service. You know, we work really hard to make sure that our customers. Feel welcome that we give personalized recommendations based on their. Specific interests that we are quick inefficient with when we get books. And when we notify the customers, we try to do all the things that Amazon can do. I mean, yes, you can buy a book on Amazon and have it, you know, shipped prime or whatever. But that book is was recommended to you via an algorithm that doesn't know who you are reversing the other day. I got Amazon sent me recommendation. They said that I might like a book called the Christmas redemption because I've actually read the Christmas. Listeners. That's one of the books that I've written. Right. I think I might like that that book, but I've already read it. I've already read it to somebody read it about eighty five times. So so, okay. So you're both book lovers are. You wouldn't be working at a bookstore. I have to say something, Sean it such a book lover that under days off. She travels to go to other bookstores. I've been on a the last couple of months I've been doing North Carolina bookstore tour I've gone to. I think six or seven different independent bookstores in in North Carolina that I never been to before. It's really fun. You know, kind of like going to all the barbecue place in North Carolina. Right. You know, it's it's it's somewhere you wanna go absolutely bar this to a barbecue and book touring the BNB oxide. You know? That's the beauty of it. You know barbecue different barbecues. Wonderful different bookstores are wonderful. They have their own flavor. They own have their own taste. It's exciting. So to work in a bookstore. You have to know a lot about book says how how do you keep up with all the books, and how many books do you read a year? I average about probably. Four books a week. I getting four books. Correct. I don't have any children. My husband does most of the cooking. I have great neighbors that don't care what our yard looks like I basically this is this is my world. I live eat breathe sleep. It's just the world of UNSCOM Johnston. And I I love it. I mean, and there's so much that I don't know that it's still exciting. And I, you know, I hate dying with a book in my hand and probably leaned against, you know, a bookshelf, and that'll be that'll be the end of the store to your. On bookshelves above my bed and yesterday when I came home one of the books on the bookshelf had fallen onto my bed. So I plan on dying in a giant pile of books that have fallen on my head while I I hope you have paperbacks. It's no oh gosh. Okay. We gotta get a little build a net above your head and below the book. She. Do that. So how many books do you read a year on average between one twenty to one fifty a year? I stopped kind of tracking recently just because it it's a lot of pressure. I guess, and there are certain months where I read, you know, five six seven books in somewhere. I'll read fifteen to twenty two all really depends on the time that I have where my head spaces. How busy things are. So it really does depend this month. I've only read two books. Oh, no. But I plan it's early and I plan on getting some catch up time. So we're not come in the store. I'm in their lot. Come in. See all y'all busybodies behind the counter there, you always you got a little ki- kind of like, you know, air traffic control space for something like this, and somebody will greet me, of course, and they'll help them, but there's always stuff going on. So for the uneducated here, what are y'all doing? What's going on behind the scenes, oh, we're ordering books. We're looking up books. We're trying to figure. You're out what book it is that the person's come in that they say they got recommended for their book club that had wife in the title. Yeah. We're we're also calling people with their special orders. Some of us do a lot of web stuff. And so we're working on web stuff web orders social media, which is what my job is events and events planning. There's a lot of a lot of things that that we do that aren't just, you know, bringing up the book that's in their hand in a little bit. Just a few questions about the book industry through not know this, but as an independent bookstore owner talk about traditional publishers and how you work with them. How does that work? Anyway, what they do is they send us sales reps and the sales reps are in our territory. They know our stores, they know our taste. They come. They have a list they talk about their books. We knew what to put on your show, absolutely absolute-. And then you order from them. And if by a few send them back or something it has correct? And you don't want to do that. Because it's money takes time. All this part of the art doing figuring out how many order exactly exactly so how do you do that? You look in the crystal ball you look at past sales. But pass sales are not indicative of future sales to Queen a commercial you have to look, okay. This guy sold, you know, twenty five books last book. But this book is about a subject that north Carolinians are going to love, and it's about the Outer Banks. So I think I can sell forty of them. And it depends when the book comes out we just put a we have an author coming this week. In fact, I have his book here. I'm Scott Hueller. And James said, I thought you ordered more books you thought you wanted more for father's James you brother, who who is who is the manager. And I did I wanted this gentleman's coming on Sunday. I wanted copies to be able to sell it through Father's Day signed copies because I love this book so much, and we didn't do it. And I was like, oh, we only have eighteen books. That's not enough. And then of course, James called up. Our our one of our sales reps at a wholesaler and worked his magic. And got her to get books out today that will get them tomorrow. So we'll talk a little bit about working with. What frustrates you sometimes about the publishing industry in general as an independent bookstore on the way that publishing allocates funds is always really confusing to me, and I'll see a book that I think is absolutely brilliant. And I think it needs all the support in the world and publishing has put zero marketing dollars behind it. And then a book that is by an established author that will sell no matter what has all of this publishing and marketing money put behind it. So part of my frustration is I wish publishing put more money into the unsure thing. So I heard a talk about the publishing industry recently where they talked about how publishers still expect the authors to sell their work to some extent. And only a few authors get the big promotional money behind it. And goes to your your point, Sean is that sometimes it might not be the. Best written book with the person has a name. They're gonna pump more money into promoting that, and they will something else share it because it's a business and so big name author has sold five books. They're all been on the bestseller list. They wanna keep that author and say the authors telling the publishing company will what are you gonna do for me? So it's it's a business within a business and. Good shift authors real quick, what do you enjoy about working with your authors their enthusiasm? It's so wonderful to see an author champion their own book. And to see them champion other people's books as well. I'm I think authors have are in the very unique position of being able to you know, climb up the ladder and then put the ladder back down. So someone else can come up after them. And it's really great to see that happening in real life. Like, David sedaris. David sedaris starts off his shows. He always recommend somebody else's book. He always has a book that he is pushing touting. So when we go sell books for him, and every comes to town, we bring multiple copies of the book that he's pushing also because people trust them they like his work. So if he likes somebody else's work. They wanna read that also. So they've got to be some suggestion. Maybe we'll call them pit Ps. You might like to make authors whose books. Appear in your store. So any thoughts on terms of how they can do better to help you help them. We we do we do have a lot of self published authors. You should really get help. You should get somebody. That knows what they're doing. And there's a lot of people out there. Charlotte writers network Charlotte lit they can help them do that. Because the font has to be good. The paper has to be good. The layout house to be good through so many aspects to a book that sometimes I'll pick up a book that I'm so excited about I've heard about it. And I'll open it up and on off think I don't wanna read this the Bont is wrong. Sometimes I could be a traditional of shit can be it can be you're right. I mean, whether small presser will independent publishing now, you do work with independent authors. And you're welcoming that, but but if if authors don't realize that they should get an editor. They should get a book designer they should get good cover. Then they're not doing the complete work. You know, they need to correct. And it's the weirdest business in the world. So there's a lot of of layers and aspects to it people do judge a book by the cover. And so your cover has to be something that draws you into the book. But also correctly reflects what the book is about. So we're playing all these funding games. And you know, in the middle part of the book act to here, we were working with, you know, book publishers and customers and authors and everything and we're doing all our work in the air, traffic control center center there, and you know, we get to that phase of the book where Amazon is just you know, closing in all this stuff. What's the current prognosis for independent bookstore in in America? It is excellent. Good good. So we're we're kicking some and happy to say for the past four years. We've had a net increase in bookstores in the United States, they're popping up all over the country. So act three we're here in act three. Now, he ripples lessons. Learned goals were -ccomplish. Now, a sense the story Parker books is ongoing, and we're not we don't have the, you know, we don't have to close the book so happily ever after. But we're gonna happily point right? I mean, we're doing well, very happy point we're doing well. We don't know any money. We have wonderful landlords able to hire more full-timers. I am able to give them health insurance. I am hopefully raising their salaries as much as I can. So each success that we have of showing overtaking moods. Well, it's always funny because they don't tell me they're doing it. I just look at my pay stub. But I'm just like, oh, that's nice. Okay. So we can't have a podcast about a bookstore without talking about books. And so we're going to do some spring and summer suggestions here and who wants to go first idea. Okay. I so let's do it. Okay. I'm older than she has that stealing recently on your side books. Yes. I am so excited the one I missed excited about as Martin Clark's book the substitution order, I have known Martin Clarkson since I book called the many aspects of mobile home living, and I love him. He is my favorite legal writer. He is an ex federal judge from Stuart Virginia, which is right up over the line in North Carolina. And he is one of the finest human beings, I know and one of the best and funniest writers. He he's been called the thinking man's Grisham or the drinking man's Gresham. And he is just a can't tell you. How delay? It full. He is he's retired now named glad because he can spend more time writing these books. So so you recommend a book he wrote about a year ago? The just Bill remedy. Hey. That was a great book. Yeah. And then you have some health issues to did he had a stroke out of out of nowhere. He was he's a very healthy person. And he had a stroke that just you know, almost took his life. He has you know, his health is regained. Now, he has quit the, you know, being a judge just because of the the stress and strain and pressure on it. But he can do what he loves now. And what I love about Martin. He's he puts people in his books. So if he likes you he puts you in his books as you need to get in his book. So well, that's I'm I am happy to be the bystander selling his books. So this is a legal thriller. Yes. It is. And it's about a lawyer who has gone through one of the worst years in his life. He's lost his. Law practice. He's lost his wife, and he has to work at the worst sub shop in the World Cup the substitution. And it really is. I mean, you read the first chapter and you're just groaning. I mean, you're like no don't put that on that sandwich starts out with us. Go this down in his look down on his luck as she says that's act one right? And then somebody or a group of people try to drag them even lower. They are trying to make you visit villains. And man, it's sorta like the present day you're waiting for Justice to catch up. But these villains key coming after him and manipulating him and the law and everybody else is unable to help him coup are so how do you own do show an alternate back and forth, we should alternate. So Sean, would you go for the first one? I'm going to talk about is one that we actually have the author coming to visit us on April eighteenth, which is Thursday. I believe at seven it's called sugar run by Michelle Merrin, it is not something. I would typically pick up at Sally was recommended it to me, which is another kind of great thing about the bookstores Sally can always know which books I'm gonna like that aren't necessarily within my normal wheelhouse book boat. So this book is what you would consider grit Litz. It's a southern no are was a main character who has just gotten out of prison after an eighteen year sentence. She was convicted of manslaughter and sent to prison when she was seventeen years old, so Jodie McCarty. The main character is now released from prison and trying to basically start her new life. So she heads back to the Appalachian mountains. She falls in love with the woman named Heather and the two of them try to create this new life together. However, the community is a very uncaring and unwilling to go and evil. However. Exactly. Yeah. Which? Exactly high coup course. Yeah. It looks. Extension says a heady mixture of explosive plot and taught burnished pros. The pros is what really gets me. It's beautiful. It's just astonishingly good its debut novel. It is. Yeah. And she's going to be in store. Yes. Absolutely. All right. So I have a delicious country rediscovering the Carolinas. Lung the route of John Lawson seventeen hundred expedition by Scott Hueller, I love this book. John Lawson came from London over to Charleston seventeen hundred he gets off the boat. And he's like, well, I think I'll take a walkabout and so he starts traveling around the Carolinas. And of course, this is by foot and canoe mainly so Scott, Hueller and some land and Raleigh. And he wanted to know what the land look like three hundred years ago. So he started doing research, and he found out about John Lawson. So we started reading John Lawson's papers, and he was fascinated by it, especially because at this point in time the Carolinas were so fertile with so many fauna flora fish. I mean, it was a delicious delicious place to be living. And so he recreates this journey. He walks and canoes. And it's just hilarious. I I drove my husband crazy reading out passages from it. And especially when he gets to the point like he finds a little plot of grass at the Charlotte Motor Speedway to put up. His pup tent. His just his comments were just wonderful, and it's really delightful to see what life was like three hundred years ago, a delicious country. Great, Sean, I have a book called red white and Royal blue. It comes out on may fourteenth. It is a contemporary romance in wit set in an alternate future. Alternate reality. So in twenty sixteen the presidential election resulted in the election of the first female Latina president and her son, Alex the first. Two thousand sixteen. Yeah. First latina. So instead of Donald Trump, we got the clermont's. And so the main character Hillary even lost to this alternate reality, alternate world completely. So instead of so we live in this world. Alex, Claremont S is the American equivalent of a young Royal? And he ends up having this really toxic relationship with the prince of Wales that turns from an enemies to lovers romance. So you've got this really beautiful romance Britain over emails, you've got a lot of politics going on in the background. Because of course, you have you know, this hidden secret romance. And it's kind of it was really cathartic to read because it set in a world that's just much more beautiful than our own. Much more accepting sounds like yeah. Yeah. And it's I when I familial bonds between the characters are really wonderful to read this. The Alex's sister is also a very politically minded person. Even though she's the president the she always has time for her kids. And it's like I said an alternate reality. I wish I could live in. It feels like salve on an open wound. So that's next next book. I have is growing things and other stories by Paul Tremblay. I saw this book we get advanced reading copies. I saw the book. I started looking at it. I thought this looks like horror and my husband loves horror. He got his cover. Does look like you're walking through like a dark forest field or swamped? Yes, there's the thorns on it. Brought it home to him. He grabbed it out of my hands. He devoured it. And I will say it's har-. He says this beat Stephen King short stories out. And I was like really and he's like, yes. And then he made me go get all of his other books and bring them home immediately. So they really are. I read some of the stories in there, not all of them the ones that you can see I've got my. Some of them are hilarious. Some of them are super scary. He does great monsters great tongue in cheek a little bit of everything. I think Paul Tremblay is going to be the next Stephen King without issue. That's that's there. Okay. Shawna. All right jumping into space have a book called once and future by a co writing duo, Amy rose Kapeta and Corey McCarthy once and future is a gender bend king. Arthur retelling in space, which is pretty yeah. It's a it's a pretty great little blurb there. So we have the teenage Ari who is a she likes she discovers and finds things and she ends up meeting. A teenaged Merlin who has been sort of Benjamin button in his aging backwards. So he's this gangly fifteen-year-old Merlin finds Ari and tells her that she has to say. Save the world using Excalibur. And so the the thing about this book is it's it's fun. It's definitely a lighter. Read it does have some serious moments. Definitely how some weight to it. But it's a book that is just kind of this wild romp through space with a found family cast of characters and the enemy capitalism. The true villain true. We're not doing politics. All right Sally. What my next one is. Tomorrow's bread by energy mayo. This book is Charlotte. It's it's fiction, it's setting Charlotte nineteen sixty one it's the story of the Brooklyn neighborhood in Charlotte, which have heard about this book was demolished to make way for new modern uptown and to seventy seven belt loop. It's told through three people Lurlene Hawkins. She's young mother who must keep her relationship with her white boss secret. It's also told by even poke who is a local pastor and caretaker of the African American cemetery and Percy Marshall who is the wife of the man that is leading the efforts to destroy Brooklyn. So it takes place in nineteen sixty one energy may who grew up in Charlotte. She's lived in North Carolina her entire life, and it's a wonderful book. So we've had several authors on the pot. Kissed and season two. And then it got some coming on a season three they're dealing with some of the socially conscious issues involving Charlotte. Pam Kelly's book money rock, which is in your stores. Well, talked about the years of Piedmont court, which is not far from where we're crack quoting here. And this story about the Brooklyn neighborhood. I think sometimes people just don't realize that that was a thriving African American community until people decided uptown, we needed tear it down. Maybe we call it downtown. I I didn't know the answer to that. Correct. There was a thriving middle-class black neighborhood it had schools businesses. You know, there was the good the bad and the ugly, but mainly it was good. But it was in the way of progress, and I'm using progress with the air Quinn's. All right, Sean, what you not only Tan's book of luck and fortune at spy Roselle limb. It's got a June eleventh release state. It is shuck a lot meets the Joy Luck Club. Yeah. So it's a very lush visual. It's filled with recipes because about Natalie ten who is returning to her mother's home in Chinatown in San Francisco after her mother's death, and she is confronted with a neighborhood that's slowly dying and being scalped by this real estate developer who wants to tear the whole neighborhood down and build condos which downs kind of failure. Don't you think? So Natalie is a chef by trade, and she decides to use her grandmother's cookbook to heal the wounds in the neighborhood, which kind of where the magic comes in. So she makes these amazing dumplings. And so it's got recipes. It's got all of this really interested is really interesting interesting intricate neighborhood with all these characters with their individual problems and the way that Natalie tries to fix them doesn't necessarily work correctly. The first time she attempts it, and she ends up sometime at some points making it worse. But I think it's this beautiful cultural novel filled with Chinese recipes, the food sounds, so amazing and the recipes are right there in the non they might not be magical. But they might they are definitely tasty. And there's a touch of romance, which, you know, every book needs did you make your roommate cook them shows or no? I should I should. And it's since China's talking about food. I'm going to continue with the food theme about fifteen years ago, I met Matt and Ted Lee from Charleston, and they had their first cookbook, and I love Charleston. My sister and brother-in-law lived there mmediately, my husband, and I bought it with Matt and Ted. They have some amazing cookbooks with some amazing recipes and their new book is called hut box inside catering, the world's riskiest business. And it's a fascinating look at this business of catering, which is really just amazing that these people can cook a wonderful meal for five hundred people and get it out and how they came about. This was about they went to the James beard word dinners, which is set in the James beard house, which is a real house that has an industrial kitchen in it. But it's a house and this place manages to crank out all these meals for people, and Matt Headley were just amazed at these people that. Came in. And these are not well known chefs these are not people that have TV shows. They don't have knives named after them. These are just everyday people dressed in black and white pants, and and the hat and the white shirts, and they come in and they perform magic, and it's just a really fascinating book, and it will help you even with if you have a dinner party with only six people it'll help you deal with your food management a little better. We're really looking forward to having them here in the store. Yes. May seventeenth Friday may seventeenth at seven PM and Kathy Purvis is going to be interviewing both of them. Bring some food. We will have some. I'm definitely they make some of the best of best cheese straw recipe that we've tried AVI, drinking cheese, straw, and pickle grapes. If you've ever had a pickle grape. It's wonderful. I haven't but I will you will. Show can tough that. Well, I'm not sure I do have a book. That's gene ROY bender. It's called the psychology of time travel by Moscow terrain us. It's set in the present as well as nineteen sixty seven and nine hundred sixty seven four women. Discover time travel so sort of a Hidden Figures esque novel there in the beginning, the four women they create this device that causes time travel and one of them kind of has a breakdown. And so she gets kind of shunned from the rest of the group. So in the present, we have this locked room murder mystery, someone finds a dead woman in a locked room. And so there's this it's it's very complex because you've got time travel. You've got murder mystery. You've got lesbians you've got all this stuff going on coming together to create this really intricate novel that yeah. And so you've it's. There's a lot of mystery an intriguing secretive shouldn't go through the stones. Right. No now. Now, it's and the device has very specific rules, which when I do time travel books, I tend to like ones that are more structured and have very specific rules for how time travel works. So it's great if you like murder mystery, that's great. If you like science fiction. It's great. If you are just looking for something that you have never read before because it's very much. Unlike anything I've ever read hearts valley, which you go I've got magic for liars by Sarah gaily. This is just a delightful book for the people that have gone through all the Harry Potters and your dolts now, and you still miss Hogwarts, and Harry Potter. It's about a private investigator Ivy gamble who works on the underbelly of Oakland, California. She's sort of bored with you know, what she does. She's trailing unfaithful spouses disability claims until the Osborne academy for young Mejia's approach. Which is her a teacher at the magical school teach kids how to hone their magic where she got these. Did one of the teachers at the school has died gruesomely. And they wanna know how this happened in ivy's. Twin sister also works at the school, and they have been a they haven't talked to each other for years. So it's a family drama wrapped around a magic. And just absolutely wonderful in delay. She'll be phone, Sean. I'm gonna stick with our kind of fantasy thing. There's a book we hunt. The flame by house defies out comes out on may fourteenth. It is a world wind Arabian fantasy set in a land Zafir is the main character. She's a hunter who Braves the cursed forest of ours, which is sort of encroaching on the land. Which is a spooky forest is one of my favorite Trucco to censor with Sean alert. I think maybe. Yeah. I think he might have it. So Zafir has to go and retrieve this artifact to stop this forest from encroaching on the land in basically, destroying everything. But it's a brilliant novel with magic and intrigue. It's got amazing politics in the book. It's got all these twists and turns. It's a book when I finished reading this book, I paste my house for a solid twenty minutes. I was so upset, and it doesn't usually books. Don't books affect me for sure, but that book has stuck with me so much. It's perfect for. Fans of young adult crossovers such as children to blood in bone or adult fantasy novelists who liked books like city of brass. It is this romantic book. It's got this leering pros, it's one of the best books. I've read this year. So the books keeping her up at night. So what's keeping you up? Nothing. I sleep. Ten o'clock comes and I'm like, oh, we'll talk about another book. Okay. I have in west mills, it's a novel by Sean, Charles Wilson. This is the debut novel from Mr. I'm sorry Winslow. It's Sean Charles Winslow not Wilson. And he is from Elizabeth City North Carolina debut novel. He's a graduate from the Iowa writer's workshop, and I loved this book. It's forty years covering a small group of people in a black community very small called west mills. And you follow these people, especially the main one from nineteen forty one to the eighties. And it's has everything in it. And the characters are so imminent. It's amazing. The main character starts off she likes her liquor, and she likes her men and not necessarily in that order and she's upset because. Zales a man is leaving her because she drinks too much. And she's like that's fine because you can't hold your liquor. And so it's the story of her life and then her two best friends, which our next door neighbor who is a married, man. It's platonic relationship, and then her best friend who is a game. An and it goes through her trials and tribulations, she's a schoolteacher, but she loves her liquor, and she loves her men his couple of pregnancies, but it's a serious book and his writing so exquisite. That's the the charm of of the book I have to give that one to me. I absolutely think he would love it. I mean, it really has everything it's a period piece. But it it's fresh and bright with common with today's. Commonsense. Shouted you up so milk. I do I have a contemporary novel, and this one I will go ahead and give you a disclaimer that I'm very good friends with the author the book is called. I wish you all the best by Mason Deavere. We are having Mason here at the store on may sixteenth for an event there, but comes out on the. Fourteenth in the book. We have been Debaecker who comes out to their parents as a non binary teen and their parents react by kicking them out. So they move in with their strange sister and have to start a new life to finish their senior year. While Ben has this idea that they're just going to keep their head down finish school and start their new life. A young man named Nathan kind of derails those plans by being the charming young man that he is. So it is a coming of age and coming out story with a sweet tender romance for fans of Becky Tully. Adam Silveira, Kelly Louis Gilbert, it is a young adult novel. But I think it can speak to anyone of all ages. And I think especially in North Carolina since we have such a fraud history of not necessarily being supportive as we could beat a transgender individuals. I think it's a book that everyone should read. So my last one is why don't you write my eulogy now? So I can correct it. This is perfect book for mother's day. If your mother has a sense of humor, if your mother doesn't have a sense of humor forget about it. It's by Patricia Marx who is from Saturday Night Live, and it's illustrated by Roz chasse to if you read the New Yorker magazine, I'm you've probably seen her cartoons. Ideally, love her. I wish she lived next door to me. So I could bug more. But these are one liners from Patricia Marx's mothers and little cartoons of the company. So this one says my mother has no interest in the past other than regretting it. And there's a little picture of a woman sitting on the couch with pearls in her hair's all done, I should've named you. Emily, jane? We should have bought the lengths house. I shouldn't wooded the duck in retrospect, I should have brought you up better. Of course, I love this one because I'm the third child in the family, you only need to have one child. But make sure it's the right one. All right. So you've added humor to your Horo into all your other. I am one of five kids. So that would think my step mom might enjoy that Johnny thing. I do I have one more. It's called the whites and the wicked by Rebecca Podesta's, it is a dark magical contemporary Russian fairytale set in a small town America occupied a family of women who have this magical ability to see their deaths before they happen. So they see their deaths. They write it in a book. And then they live their lives up to that point. Now, the matriarch of the family dies. And when they read the injury in her book, they find out that it's wrong. It has never been wrong before in so ruby arming character who sees her death only a year of in the future on her eighteenth birthday it net becomes obsessed with finding out how her how the matriarch of this family, cheated death. It's dark. It's lush. It's beautifully written ruby as a main character that she's in kind. An anti heroine. She's not very nice. She's kind of crass she's basically given up on life in there for treats life as something that isn't necessarily to be given the weight that it should be especially as a team. 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9 - After Death Visitation Dreams

The Dream Detective

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9 - After Death Visitation Dreams

"Welcome to the dream detective podcast the show that explores the mysteries of the mind body spirit and dreams my name is Minnie pettibone I'm your hopes and this is episode number nine reflect our fears and yet others can provide a metaphorical story for us to learn from as many dreams do yet visitation dreams markers that help distinguish these experiences from other types of dreams there are many different kinds of dreams we can have UNISOM after death visitation dreams have you ever had a dream that someone who passed away came to visit you and it felt so real what happened was I was dreaming that I was going up this elevator and it was going way up to the super top building way up so now let's dive in with the I dream encounter from a listener who was kind enough to record her experience for us hi this is Shayla from deep down that it was an actual visitation that is what matters the most I personally believe that after death visitation dreams happen much become more acceptable to talk about even outside of Paranormal podcast as I do believe that these experiences are very real checked experience of the dreamer and their belief of whether their experience was real which is what I respect above all else one person very different from a regular dream maybe you could even smell their perfume or Cologne or the cigars they used to smoke or they came to visit you at your bedside these are called after death visitation dreams were after death communications also known as a DC's and today we're going to learn all about them I'm going to share with you a number of real dream visitation stories and we're going to look at some of the common more frequently than most of us realize especially because they're not talked about ally in mainstream culture I hope that by putting this information out there it will be the loss of a loved one some of them help us process our grief and loss some review fond memories of times we spent with our loved one others San Diego and I have a dream that I wanNA share it was so vivid this is the dream about my father's second wife and I was really close to her her name is Donna and she passed away and I had a dream about her that night after she died stream could meet most of these markers and if they don't believe it's important to respect that another person's dream might not really fit any of these categories but if they feel holiday your own experiences and shed some light on this topic in general that said what any of this ultimately comes down to is the Sea Oh my intention is that by sharing with you some actual stories as well as highlighting some of the common markers of these experiences it will help to me people have after death visitation dreams but second guess themselves as to whether or not the experience is real despite how much in their heart of hearts they hope it is real found out as different they feel very real and very comforting which is usually the case in grief processing dream many oh hi up into the cloud and I was that was my home I lived in the penthouse and when I got to the top floor I looked out over this beautiful beautiful scenery I could see the mountains and the clouds and it was beautiful but it's super high up like more higher than you could even imagine and then their elevator came straight to my front door and I knew someone was arriving so I went to my front door in the elevator opens up and Dr Donna had just died and she was with a little girl and I thought it was Piper and I went oh hi Piper is one of Donna her and I was doing laundry and she came over and just started folding laundry with me and helping me fold laundry and that was the dream that's grandchildren but then she was younger than Piper so I had donna come in I thought you hook beautiful. She looked like she did when she was thirty we looked beautiful her skin was just flawless and perfect and her hair was just really fresh and beautiful she didn't say anything but she walked in and they knew it was her it was beautiful I felt like I had just been with Donna and that she was okay and that things were just beautiful and I remember I called her Piper Donna Son told my dad Oh my gosh that was we had a daughter that died and we didn't tell anybody doubt that story and my dad said I'm going to tell one of Donna's sons about this so he told Donna son and it was the sun like their daughter that they had and hope I'm making sense but they had a daughter named Piper but this was a little girl that was born after Piper was born but no one knew about it I've had the daughter named Piper this is where it gets even weirder and when my dad told Donna's son that I dreamed about Donna being with another little girl that time there's two parts to it because I had the dream and I also looked up and looked at my clock and my clock was five thirty two which was her fascinating story with so many layers this dream really has a lot of the markers that set after death visitation dreams apart from others nice to people I didn't know about it my dad didn't even know about it that they'd had a little girl it left a big impression on me but at the the first one is that it felt very real shallow woke up with a felt sense that Donna had really visited her she anything that will take us to a higher place literally in the dream but symbolically are spiritually in our psyche can be a symbol for reaching heaven or is another symbol that I've seen come up a number of times in these types of dreams not in every dream by any means but enough that bears acknowledgement it's as if they just didn't say anything I think the baby died at birth or something but all I know is they did have a little girl daughter that live very long and they didn't really say address where she died at 'cause she when she died she went back to Ohio for her family to stay there for the last ten days before she died anyway but that was her from Donna even though it wasn't conveyed in words Shayla had the feeling from this dream that Donna was okay this is yet another described the experience as very vivid it had that sense of realness that accompanies these types of dreams another marker is that the location of the dream looked at the clock and thought to myself oh my gosh that's her address and I don't even know why I woke up to look at the clock but that I looked at the clock and it was shallow also described Donna as very beautiful which seems to be a significant one especially for a lot of women I believe that if beauty was important shallows departed loved one was in her senior years when she passed yet she appeared in the dream as much younger as if she were in her thirties ella emphasized repeatedly how high the Penthouse in the dream was which emphasizes its significance to her an elevator NB symbolic of a positive outlook which it seems that heaven is very conducive to now let's look at the quality of reassurance coming an older age often appear younger in visitation dreams interestingly enough children who pass at a very young age can actually grow up on the other side and if they were sick or missing limb or anything like that they will usually appear healthy and hole in the visitation don common trait that most of these dream visitations have in common whether the loved one verbally conveys it or the dreamer experiences the feeling of reassurance the woman or the person who passed they'll come back in these visitations as appearing very beautiful while adults who passed so it makes sense that some of these encounters would be in beautiful places and in other types of dreams a beautiful view setting the penthouse was up high being in a place it's very high up is not uncommon after death visitation dreams that occurs enough to note it as significant when people talk about near death experiences they often refer to them as filled with beauty and love on his address but then that kind of alerted me like wow that's kind of weird or even why I would think that almost as if somebody was guiding my thought so ever of her gifts great credibility to the concept that these visitations are real not just constructs of our imagination coming up on the other side united with her grandmother Donna the fact that Donna's son and his wife kept this daughter a secret and that Shayla had no knowledge what like in their youth before the living person knew them and they recognize the person from the dream visitation all of this reinforces the died and this is exactly what happened with the little girl that Shayla saw with Donna it's uncanny that shila had no way of knowing about Donald as shale it did another trait that says these dreams apart is that if our loved one was older when they passed they often appear younger in the visitation remember the dream it just like lay back and close my eyes and then I just remember the whole drain thank you so much Shayla for sharing your dream what and no one really knew about it except on of course new about it but Donna was with this little girl who looked honest visitation dream she noticed that the time on her clock was five thirty two shila made the connection that this number was the same as Donnas address at the time she passed and that created a link for her to remember the dream shila felt that without this she might not have remember the dream departed granddaughter yet once she did some family research she found out that indeed Donna had a granddaughter that passed as a baby and now she was there's something you know directing me look at the clock and that's the same address as where Donna had passed you know and and and then I just laid back then I started especially for women in visitation dreams another quality is the light we associate heaven with light and even refer to crossing over as going to the light and here Shelly's aunt is surrounded by light and finally both shelley and Shelagh had a as a memory from when my aunt passed in two thousand five in my dream she was standing atop the hill in a golden gown with light all around her felt sense that their loved one was at peace the next dream is from Paula she writes my mom appeared briefly and click nations and you'll see how each one is unique and yet there are these common threads that run through them the next one is from shelly who writes I have a glimmer idea that we're not making these things up in fact if you WanNa read a whole book about a story like this checkout doctor even Alexander's book proof of Heaven Thank You Shelly for sharing this beautiful dream of your aunt so listeners do you notice some similarities between Shelley's and Shelagh Dreams Day or that of a loved one they can also happen on anniversaries or any date that holds significance for either them or us it's not dream the view from the Hyatt place was amazingly beautiful this type of beautiful view or scenery is another marker and they felt a sense that they're departed loved ones are with them I'll talk more about that topic later now we're going to look at some more dream visitation there are many other similar stories where dreamer doesn't recognize someone at the time they visit a dream but later they see an old family photo album of what a relatively occasion a lot of communication in these types of dreams tends to happen telepathically or through a transferred feeling of p address and I looked at my clock and that like so just stunned me and it made me a wakeup and that's how I remember the dream because I don't think I would ever even remembered the dream had with my aunt it was very clear very spiritual almost as if she were a goddess that had gone home I felt she was at peace name and described it as if someone were guiding her thoughts many people of noticed everything from numbers to butterflies to certain types of birds in their environment I felt like it was a message to me thank you Paula for sharing this story with us and here this dream demonstrates another six east reassurance or love from the departed loved one to the dreamer now let's hear another story this one is from amy in the house peaceful look at for the stream falls under the category of signs and symbols in the world around us when shallow woke up from they were ready to give them to them shortly after this my sister became really ill and was out of commission for about five months and basically she had stashed those letters in a book by her bed pretty amazing she immediately gave the letters to her daughters thank you so she came through to amy sister in the dream state to remind her of them I'm happy to say that amy sister survived but her condition was very place was represented by the penthouse both Shayla stepmother and shelley's and were dressed beautifully which again seems to be another common trait virement by any means and while visitation dreams tend to be most common in the first year after the person passes they can happen any time as we see here in Paul's Dream African marker which is that dream visitations often occur on or around significant anniversaries such as the date the person passed their own was too preoccupied with her own health to consciously be thinking about such things but it was pretty important to their mom that her grandchildren get their letters the and it has a surprise twist amy writes my mother passed away after struggling with breast cancer for ten years before she passed she floor those more on some other future episodes in addition to signs let's add in there looking at the power of synchronicity which also that's pure speculation on my part but I can't help but wonder about the timing low but wait there's more when amy sister was early in my dream on the second anniversary of her death I'd not been thinking about her at the time it's as if she was reminding me of the anniversary loved ones on the other side now they can also be signs from other things like spirit guides angels the universe whatever you WanNa call it but we'll see odle letter to each of her children and a letter to each of her grandchildren my sister put her kids letters away for the time being and was going to wait until she in Shelley's dream her aunt is standing on top of a hill which is another higher place than regular ground just like in shale is dream where the higher do not it was dark gray outside but there were two rainbows behind it landing directly on the helicopter we knew it was a sign from her mom you too amy for sharing this story and wow this is another perfect example of how you just can't make this stuff up amy sister had completely forgotten about the letters here again we have another sign accompanied by a felt sense of knowing I can't help but wonder if amy's mom had something to do with it affecting her sister through the emergency ordeal and if she might have played a role in helping her survive in the process remember to pay attention to the signs well they had to airlift her to the hospital amy says a few days after my sister was airlifted a nurse gave us a photo of the chopper and I kid you when it happened on the second anniversary of her mom's passing also note that just like in the previous two dreams we have no mention of verbal forgot about the letters my mother came to her in a vivid dream one night and she was specifically showing her a book my sister was trying to communicate with her one of the two other examples I gave was noticing butterflies though as before Shayla left this message or even had this experience interesting you see how this stuff often comes into play as I was working on this episode in fact I received a voicemail from shelagh the one who dreamed of her stepmother Donna and forks regarding shales experience with the butterfly again notice how she had a feeling and she just knew it was Donna mom kept referring back to this book my sister woke up and couldn't figure out what the dream meant but a couple of days later she realized that dot com and you'll see a link to the group on the homepage and thank you Shayla for sharing your beautiful butterfly visitation with us now they were really close talk about synchronicity the divine orchestrates things on the level of the subtle to the point where many of us is serious and I can't help but wonder if her mom sense of urgency might have had something to do with the possibility of her not making it let this be a guide for you if you're ever unsure of the nature of your own experience trust your inner sense of knowing and your feelings talking about her mom who was still alive but when she said this little boy said no the other grandma in the picture and he pointed to here I'm going to play it for you today when I was putting on makeup and I was in my apartment it really felt like I felt donnas presence Lina even notice or be aware of these things but the more you awaken in tune in the more you will notice these types of things I even sometimes it can be difficult to trust ourselves especially when we live in a society that doesn't support anything that can't be measured or quantified one day the Sun said Grandma's coming to the house again today the boy's mother my brother's wife acknowledged his comment but she thought he was us in listening to our inner voice and trusting intuition and if you'd like to be part of a community like this I actually created one unfit which I say hey science catch up actually it is catching up but that's a whole `nother show too sometimes we need a community of like minded people to support that did the trick and he got a visitation within a few days Christopher ads I know this dream happened but how do I know if it's and symbols around you and notice when you have the strong feeling that they're a message from spirit these signs are real and are forms of communication from our departure let's hear another story from amy my brother got married and he adopted his wife's younger son who was maybe three or four years old at the time ten years later I shared this with a group of friends and my younger brother was very upset that he had not gotten visitation dream after talking for a bit big monarch butterfly just came really close because I usually do my makeup right by an open window with a screen on it that's monarch butterfly was like I tragically at age twenty five he visited me in a dream and assured me that he was all right it happened only once but it made me happy amy for sharing these powerful messages from your mom the next dream is from Christopher Christopher rights shortly after my big brother facebook it's called intuition an inner guidance support group you can just type those words into facebook to find it or go to my website the dream detective Ritz it may come naturally to be able to transmit messages to us or to visit us while for others it may be more difficult so if you don't hear from a loved one please don't worry they might just have a harder time getting through or if they're like amy's mom you might be hearing from them a lot thank you my friends advised him that he needed to let my big brother come and visit him and let go of any unresolved feelings he had towards our big brother for one Christopher had a very real sense that his brother had actually been present with him in the dream also his departed brother from them here are a few things that you can actually try one talk to the person in your mind to pray if that resonates as markers along with the fact that despite his doubts deep down Christopher did have a felt sense that this really was his brother coming to visit and the fact that ten years later his younger brother was also able to receive a visit the likelihood of these being real visitations is incredibly high reviewed the part that I had already recorded earlier about shale and noticing the time on the clock and how that could be a sign and I didn't go into depth on the topic at that point really him or if it's just my brain dealing with the loss let's recap a few of the qualities that distinguish visitation from other types of dreams well here's an example a woman had a dog who was very old and ailing physically but after he crossed over he came to visit and right there on the screen and I looked up and I just said Hi Donna I mean I just knew it was her it was like I felt her 'cause I know she really loved my dad of my mom this being amy and her brothers mom who had already passed the twilight zone music says amy it's nations from their brother but again what matters most is what it feels like to each of them if you have a crossover loved one and you wish that you could here it was like Amy's mom is a pretty powerful communicator from the other side and remember this is just like any other skill set for some people or spin reinstated now let's talk about one of my favorite topics for a minute which is animals because all of this stuff applies to our pets as usually feel after losing someone and a different type of grief Dri might feel more sad or attempt to process the loss when we look at reassured Christopher that he was all right which fits the marker of a loved one wanting us to know they're okay and that they love us and a third thing would be mentally talk to them ask them to come visit and you don't have to be a believer in this stuff many of the world's biggest skeptics have experienced write them a letter five you don't even have to say these things out loud as I do believe that their communication is often more telepathic in nature so you can we're about just the brain dealing with the loss his brother could have easily conjured up a dream of their lost brother much sooner in my opinion these were both real visit animals as well and when it comes to animals especially our pets here are some common experiences people talk about when it comes to visitations from there is for you three think about the person and ask them to either come visit you in a dream or to give you a sign that they're with you for that Christopher woke up feeling happy this fits the marker of feeling a sense of peace calm love or reassurance reassured is not how we is like this and their stories still fit the markers even though they've never heard of this data and had no prior belief in it you don't have to believe too and he was younger and healthier just like how people often appear to us all of the same things we describe with human spirit mutations apply to today we're going to explore a truly fascinating topic oh you're sounds like purring panting footsteps or a jingling caller seeing them out of the corner of your eye noticing signs and symbols in the hats being able to smell their pet feel their footprints on the bed or find an impression on the covers just like the win their pet used to make james sometimes our loved ones come through with another loved one it might be a family member a friend acquaintance or even a pet who crossed it over before them as is likely the case here where the dreamers dad had a dog by his side we don't know if this was a dog that the dad had in child animals are very powerful telepathic communicators also there are a lot of stories about people who lose a pet and then later another embedded in his small human self yet after he crossed over his higher self was able to drop the fearful facade of the small self and convey a message includes a pet from a man who lost his dad I was not particularly close to my dad but I dreamed that he came back to visit me after he donnas granddaughter there are many stories of already crossed over loved ones waiting to meet us on the other side when it's our time so and it seems to me this was more than a dream wow I definitely agree that this one is more than a dream and now that you're gone being familiar with the markers you'll notice some of the very common ones such as his dad appearing younger and healthier and that his message was very reassuring to the dreamer often the purpose of these visits I believe we all have different energies within us and in our human form we often embrace what's known other people experience a telepathic type of communication with their crossover pet which I believe many of us experienced with our pets while they're alive too as the small self or ego which can be critical judgmental and all about grasping and getting what's mine it's very much fear based head enters their life and they really sense that the new animal is a reincarnation of the previous one now let's hear a dream that the fact that his dad was able to convey apologies for his lack of understanding wall in the Human Forum help the dreamer find a sense of peace which gone for several years in the dream he looked younger and healthier and he had a dog with him running by his side he told me he regretted that we yet also while we're human we have access to our higher self our spiritual self now some of US choose to access this part of ourselves more of honesty awareness and love now remember that even while we're human we do have access to our higher selves so that's great exercise just for daily living is to ask ourselves which part of myself and my coming from my higher self or my small self now back to the oh I'm gay and he had never been able to handle that after this dream I felt close to my dad for the first time in my life and peaceful with the past others and this is what being conscious or awake is all about doing your purpose fulfilling your gifts helping others and the planet for the you're good these are the intentions of the higher self which come from a place of love not fear I believe that wall ally this man's father was robin closer and had not gotten along when he was alive he said that much of that had been due to his stubbornness and inability to respect me for who I am with intuition psychic abilities paranormal phenomena spirit guides sleep paralysis and anything else sleep wouldn't it be interesting to know if this man was met by his faithful pup and the general notion is that the person or animal whose sure episode please send it to podcast at the dream detective dot com I'm also collecting stories of experiences is my heart in a minute I'm going to recap and add to the list of common markers that can help us identify after death communication dreams Ed or an earlier time in life before his son was born but it is one of those things that a little family detective work might reveal like when Sheila found out about wonder if this man's dog showed him the way to visit his son in the dream state to let him know how much he loved him now that Warren and I'd love to do more episodes like this so if you have an after death misinformation dream or experience that you would like to have shared on a fee on the other side longer may serve as a guide to show the newly crossed over one how to navigate the other side I can't help but one dream spiritual or psychic related that you can think of so please send those as well again the email address is podcast at the dream detect dot com now let's recap some of the identifying qualities of after death communication dreams and visitation experiences remember these are all common markers and I don't know of any one dream that has all of them but awareness of these qualities can help us discern whether or not mine these are often more straightforward and real feeling the next one is reassurance and love extremely vivid and wakes up with a sense of actually having been with their loved one they may even experience smell such as grandma's perfume or Grandpa a cigar or sound such as pet collars jingling like I described earlier while most dreams have a somewhat bizarre quality to them when run by the conscious something is a visitation or a different type of dream each experience is unique and the most important thing is to go with your own felt sense of thing is that we've already explored and like I said I'll add some more that may not have come up so far in these particular stories and then I'll share a couple final dreams yes so the first trait is real nece most people report a sense of realness to these dreams the person often describes the dream as the next quality is healing these dream visitations can be very healing for example the dream from the gay man whose father didn't accept him while he I love you they may ask for forgiveness or apologize for things they did in the human form which they now realize were hurtful bring those types of feelings to us our departed loved one will usually bear messages of reassurance and love such as I want you to know that I'm okay and usually after losing someone the last thing we feel comforted or a sense of lightness and peace and yet these dreams physically alive his apology and acknowledgement that this was wrong was very healing for his son another trait that seems to here's another marker we often have an awareness that the person visiting us is actually dead the dreamer might be aware set these dreams apart from others is that they often happen in our bedroom when you think about it most dreams don't take place in our actual bedroom and serhiy phenomena and psychic information but they can and do happen in all states of consciousness including waking sleeping and inbetween adding to the realistic feeling of these experiences we may even dream that we open our eyes and see our loved one or perhaps we really the fact that they're dreaming and his often conscious of the fact that the person has already passed also sometimes the main focus of the dream is the converse at this is a common setting for after death contact dreams and visitation experiences our loved one may stand next to our bed or sit on the edge of it progress in fact this interrupted quality is a marker of Psychic Dreams in general not just visitation dreams and if you list over in the old barn where she used to house him she figured out though that if she thought about her horse and the barn with enough emotion before going to sleep and asked him heart opening our eyes as all of these experiences can take place in the waking state as well in the dream state were more susceptible and open to any kind the next smarter has come up repeatedly which is that if the person was older when they pass they often look younger when they come to visit another marker that hasn't come up yet in these examples is that the visitation dream can come in the form of interrupting another dream that was already in into episode five of this podcast you'll hear cat story of how her regular dreams were interrupted whenever her spirit guide came to visit her with life saving information she described it like new window popping up on the computer that's how a new dream would pop up interrupting the already existing dream relation between you and the loved one while most dreams have a lot more going on than just a conversation another common marker is that as I mentioned the first few dreams the communication from our departed leveling can be telepathic in nature. There doesn't have to be any words exchanged the person would likely look as they did the last time we saw them and as described earlier women often look very beautiful especially if that was important a couple more traits we looked at towards the beginning of the episode are the element of light that can be significant like Shelly's aunt who was surrounded with light and also the location being in a high place like Sheila's Penthouse and Shelley's hill now let's look at another marker that hasn't necessarily but what happens if they still don't come don't take it personally they may be busy on the other side learning things getting their bearings and it may not to come visit her again in her dreams that she could often conjure up a dream where she would meet him in the barn and get to visit with him again another thing we meeting on an airplane in a car a boat or a train for example her very common sometimes there's a separation at the end where you can't go with them or be an easy task for them to come visit us some of them may also have more of a knack for it than others similarly some of us are more naturally able to re looked at is timing these types of dreams tend to happen most frequently within the first year after person passes and especially a short time after they crossover during the first year they may also happen on other significant dates or anniversaries such as birthdays or dates of special meaning to them or us but they can also happen on an anniversary date such as their crossing over now these dreams can also happen much later but they're especially into them in their life often our loved one will convey a message that they want us to be happy and go back to doing the things we loved that we made are they get off the plane or out of the vehicle and you can't or you get often they can't one woman had a dream that she met with her beloved horse who had crossed really come up yet and that is the idea of encapsulation sometimes we find an enclosed space to meet our loved one in the dream state now let's recap about receiving signs and symbols in the waking state many people experience visitations from their loved ones while awake the her death communication messages our loved ones on the other side seem to be aware of this and may come through to you if you're a high receiver remember their dreams so it is possible that we received a visitation dream and simply don't remember it like Shayla talked about she doesn't know if she would have remembered on his visit if they were sick they often appear healthier and not in pain anymore if these types of dreams were purely conjuring of our own mind and nothing else receive visitations than others this leads us to the concept of high receivers some people are naturally wired to be more sensitive I've given up wall grieving sometimes if the one that crossed over was a spouse though actually encourage the living spouse to find love again and now just to recap how do we invite this experience to happen let's say we've lost them when and we just really really want them to come visit us as we heard in with grief to be open for contact and it might be easier for the loved one to bring the message to someone else that can pass it on unless not remember that you can do things like talk to the person in your mind pray write them a letter asked them to come visit or ask them to give you a sign that there with you if she hadn't looked at the clock and notice the synchronicity of the numbers on the clock matching Donna's address if you would like to invite this kind of experience on and off books falling open to passage that's very relevant to us seeing butterflies Bradford's rainbows dragonflies etc just like doesn't only happen wall dreaming it may manifest in different ways including lights blinking on and off a TV or other electrical appliance turning on of her story sometimes people wonder why aren't they coming to visit me or maybe they came to you but not your cousin or your sister and they're feeling left out many people don't story about her sister and how they all just knew that the rainbow was assigned from their mom another way signs can appear is through numbers I doubt there's any book out there that would say don't as address if you looked up that number or website that said it can be useful interesting or forget about our pets remember that all of the same qualities of these encounters apply to our beloved pets who are on the other side as well just like with people spiritual or other worldly when something is experienced by so many people without prior knowledge that others have had similar experiences it's they might even ask you to deliver a message to a friend or relative who isn't as easy to get through to and sometimes the living person is simply too overwhelmed of an intuitive and her high receivers of telepathic and psychic experiences if you're one of these you're likely to be more prone to receiving us the pet may be waiting on the other side degreed us when it's our time and our loved ones might come back to visit us with their beloved pets too ince's none of these markers are requirements they are however common threads that have been experienced by people all over the world while having after death contact whether if they were sick or struggling with physical issues in the visitation that often appear healthy and vibrant if a pet crosses over before their person rapturous to see him again I hugged him and he had tears running down his face after my initial joy I became curious for example a lot of people see recurring numbers such as eleven eleven or four four four while we can look what significance others attribute to these numbers through the dream state or during waking a lot of people experiencing these things without ever having heard of other similar stories and without belief in anything died he had staged for lung cancer and died nine months later after diagnosis I was shocked delighted almost of dreams before we wrap things up this one is from Murray she writes I almost always have a good bye dream from the people I loved I recommend always checking in with yourself I for example when Sheila saw the numbers five three two on the clock she knew it was Donna's address me and he gave me another hug I woke up feeling light unlike I truly been visited maybe it was her release of anger my stepmother for the in the dream I was very conscious and clear that my dad had passed away and was aware all that had happened when and after he neela shared earlier with her butterfly visit or we might smell their perfume or other familiar sent that's just them we also heard in amy rose of New York City nothing specific as to why he was dressed that way though the disguise was just very covering without being a costume earlier I ran up to him by the time he'd gone to the end of the ramp and face him directly and realized he was my dad in disguise a pretty good confirmation that these experiences are real to me it's of great comfort as well now let's hear a final couple this happened a week after my dad passed and was extremely visceral I was sitting with some friends right below the entrance ramp at a shopping mall and stunned and asked why done all this he said he was sorry and he just had to get away from his wife he told me he was very sorry and he wished sheepish and ashamed my stepmother was an absolute narcissistic terror I felt more sad for him that he particular disguise and she said I have no idea why he was in Hasidic Garb I lived by a temple for years and I've seen many Hasidic men in the such from the universe to just say hey you're on the right track now just to recap when we're looking at the markers of after death visitation dreams and experience space I was just hanging out with some friends I don't know who they were either and so as I've said before each of these experiences are entirely unique even I am planning to look up some of the universal meanings of these numbers if we're not sure of their significance when we noticed them sometimes seeing a recurring number can be a mess it would also be very interesting to see if there were any Hasidic Jews in the family lineage even if they were not spoken about which can sometimes when a man with a long black coat hat beard and sidelocks like a Hasidic Jew came in the door he seemed oddly for me way I was treated during his illness or that their marriage had ended up more about being safe and comfortable than happy either way I was more happy he was how nice to think that we can still be creative on the other side now let's recap Marie stream notice how she described it as I also asked Maria about the shopping mall location and asked her if she had any associations with it to see if we could find out if that location was significant I've had a couple communications with my Grandpa Leo who died when I was in first grade years later shortly after my grandma Shirley died in the fall free and away from her than my personal grief at his passing that was it but I woke up with tears on my face and a feeling of contentment and she said the locale of this being a shopping mall doesn't seem to mean much to me it was a place where we sometimes went to when I was a teen but it was more about the tears running down my face oh thank you so much debbie for sharing such a touching dream visitation I'll leave it to you I have not heard of someone showing up in disguise before but it sounds like he had a good reason as he wanted to hide from his narcissistic wave he had to hide like this then the grief he put me through I also thought his outfit was clever he told me he would see me again and he loved GRANDPA along with her she was about the age she would have been when GRANDPA died thirty years prior she was in a beautiful dress and care of her then he turns back to her and continues down the sidewalk it makes me super emotional whenever Harry count it I have to eales laughing and smiling GRANDPA turns back to

Donna Donna Son Donna son ten years thirty years five months nine months four years ten days one day