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"american legion magazine" Discussed on Tipsy Tales

Tipsy Tales

04:21 min | 9 months ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Tipsy Tales

"We have a story like this. Yeah i mean the one. I did last. Time is a lot like this one. Yeah and that's where we were like. We should just go ahead. And do the bermuda triangle. Yeah 'cause we have come across it so much anyways. So for decades. Bermuda triangle has captured the human imagination with unexplained disappearances of ships planes and people and other phenomena located off the southeastern coast of the us in the atlantic ocean between bermuda. Florida and puerto rico. The region has become. It's known as a region of unexplained mysteries but the area seems a stretch as far as the magic nation will allow. also. The devil's triangle has been blamed for the disappearance of thousands of people in the past decades. The term bermuda triangle was first used by vincent gaddis in nineteen sixty four in an article published in argosy magazine but the earliest mention of the area was in nineteen fifty and nineteen fifty article published in the miami herald by edward van. Winkle jones edward vending winkle jones. Okay that's tongue-twister tears later. Fate magazine published see mystery at our back a short article by george sand covering the loss of several planes and ships including the loss of flight. Nineteen a group of five. Us navy gunman tbn avenger torpedo bombers on a trainee. mitch mission. Sands article was the first to lay out the now familiar triangle area where the last took place as well as the first to suggest a supernatural element to the flight nineteen incident. So and i'm gonna get into flight. Nineteen a little bit later on. Nineteen alone would be covered again in the april. Nineteen sixty two issue of american legion magazine. All right and then in february nineteen sixty. Four vincent gaddis wrote an article called the deadly. Bermuda triangle in the pulp magazine are saying flight. Nineteen and other disappearances were part of a pattern of strange events in the region. The next year gaddis expanded this article into a book invisible horizons. So this is when the whole legend of the Mita triangle really start to take off explanations. Okay you can both talk about this Explanations for occurrences in the bermuda triangle. Run the gamut from a scale of scientific to aliens. Yeah do you wanna talk about those now or you wanna wait until the end after. We've discussed all the weirdness Wanting to talk about the scientific ones first and then we can talk about the weird ones later. Okay so one of the things that people talk about or as an explanation as to what's going on is comfort competent comp- grew we're definitely drinking today. Folks all right compass variations compass. Problems are one of the cited phrases and many tr- triangle at incidents while some have theorized that unusual local magnetic anomalies may exist in the area. Such anomalies have not been found. Compasses have natural. Magnetic variations in relation to the magnetic poles a fact which navigators have known for centuries magnetic north and geographic. True north are exactly the same only for small number of places for example as of two thousand and the united states. Only those places on a line running from wisconsin to the gulf of mexico. There is some evidence to suggest. The bermuda triangle is a place where magnetic compass sometimes points towards true north as opposed to magnetic north. So that's one explanation and then another one. Did you run into this one. The gulfstream No i don't know you'll have to talk about because it may be under something different than what you have. Okay and other is the gulfstream. The gulfstream is a major service current primarily driven by thermo. Hey circulation that originates in the gulf of mexico and then it flows through the straits of florida into the north into the north atlantic..

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

13:57 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"And welcome back to coast to coast George nori with you along with Nick pope our final segment here is we're talking about primarily the Pentagon officially releasing three videos from navy fighter pilot said that the they took video of chasing strange objects when you don't know what they are you call them you a falls but you know what's interesting neck every time you call it a you a fall everybody thinks it means extra terrestrial don't think yes and of course it doesn't and that's one of the reasons why we in the ministry of defense change the language from UFOs to you A. P. unidentified aerial phenomena back in the nineties when I was doing this and that now of course the U. S. military as we see not least this week with a Pentagon statement I have adopted the same and they've even said yes we we got this from the British you've got no Paul Hynek now the son of the late J. Allen Hynek right yes yeah we've got a couple of times at conferences and of course he's he's a consultant as you would expect on on the history show project bluebird yeah absolutely I wonder what his dad Dr J. Allen Hynek who was a skeptic and then became a believer would be thinking about these videos today what do you think he'd be loving it as as with Stanton Friedman the great Sioux we've lost they would be nothing less this this would be vindication they they would be center stage in the spotlight and they would feel that all that Christmas is a time of one stand would be saying you see it's not in my grade basket I'm late let's go to Thomas in the home your California Hey Tom go ahead George Iloka if I may be permitted some quick humor perhaps the ETS are here because humanity is tasty like us to serve men serve ma'am anyway Nick it's a pleasure to speak with you always a pleasure to hear your perspective let's talk about this incident off of San Diego California the jet fighters were positioned on an aircraft carrier and they've all aircraft carriers were always part of a naval battle group so you have the aircraft carrier you have the **** letter on top of the aircraft carrier you have accompanying destroyers submarines and above all adult groups is always embedded in a web of information transfer let me elaborate there's always at least one satellite taking real time surveillance over a floating platform battle group like an aircraft carrier and we have radar we have sonar and of course we have the did you know the video and audio from the jets but there's more and I feel like we're being denied were being handed odds and sods you know what the video leaks but there's more when you have the bridge on an aircraft carrier there's two officers there's the captain and there's the admiral the admiral is in command of the entire battle group and you have the captain's hand on any incident on this there's always recorded and archived audio recordings and by now I'm sure they even have video recordings to examine you know facial expressions of central of the commanding officers and job so what I'm suggesting to you this incident happened off of San Diego which is one of the largest naval bases on the west coast North Island they have two large information processing facilities national naval ocean systems center and naval electronics laboratory Anne L. C. N. N. O. as saying so what I'm suggesting you were formally with the MOD neck and I think it's possible that we are only big being given a fraction of what happened with this incident and we're being denied satellite surveillance radars sonar the actual recordings on the bridge of the aircraft carrier and what was actually received at North Island in San Diego with central and I was wondering as a former MOT official what do you want to comment on that it seems like there would be much more including the satellite surveillance chore that you're absolutely right this is an integrated tax system with with multi hop to it and yeah we've we've seen the Ford looking infrared camera videos we've heard from some off the radar operators we've not really seen any of the details Mastin for Amy and analyses that will have been done absolutely you're right we've we've heard nothing about satellite data no not really an area that that I can get into much detail about on on the you know obviously have to keep this at unclassified level but your your city right and one thing we know is that the armed services committee the intelligence committee some senators have been briefed as has the president we know from a freedom of information act request that there are some top secret briefing slides about all this and some of the information that you we identified that the that will be in the system some of that information doubtless is summarized on those top secret briefing slide simplest definition top secret information the disclosure of which would cause exceptionally grave damage the United States so you're right we only have a small piece of a very big picture and we likely won't get those those are the best because of course so much of it is classic I mean the video was very short I wonder if the longer they only sent us a little bit yes the hi again the same freedom of information act request that ten dot the existence of these top secret briefing slides did reveal that that there were secret videos and of course we know from the U. S. navy's own admission that these three incidents the three videos that's just the tip of the iceberg last year as you know the U. S. navy issued guidance to its pilots right now telling them what to do if they encounter these things and they said that guidance was drawn up because of an ongoing series of interactions into restricted military airspace Japan is doing that now with its pilots as well now it's minister of defense said that they haven't had any UFO encounters but they are training their pilots to study and report now that's interesting isn't it yeah and and this is a global phenomenon most countries have these reports there there are of course the still a little bit of statement of one of the pilots that see these things the radar operators the trying them probably don't report that's changing I think the Pentagon's decision this week we'll we'll move things further along but but yeah with we still only seeing bits of the picture not not the whole image Francisco in Tucson Arizona is with us first time caller hi Francisco good how are you thank you again for letting me in and along with your goal thank you I wanted to do claims of the G. something that happened to me and I was married at the time it might be sound going up to from Tucson to California to LA anyway they decide to go on the thought that the you know that the but the one eleven going north through the sixty I was around twelve thirty I think in as I looked to my left it was night time accord my family received a lot about sixty fifty five not then that that too fast anyway to my left open you know quite quite high up that you know like coming down towards is it came down and it kind of stopped way up I hear about a mile of the enemy and I'm just looking at this thing you know and I wonder what it is and I I'd seen like like flashing underneath like you are looking for something in return opportunity mad me and I woke up by my action as you look at that so anyways he did that again is stopping and it finally came right next to me while on the opposite side of you know I'm not driving and I but as I was driving up became up and then you went back you know just the way that was going and I try to catch a good glimpse of it but it looked like he was around the bottom and little chrome if you like like you know I'm not I don't know about you know you have will get big pipe riding the bike to align itself I feel a little glimpse of our lives it actually looked like the side of a cowboy hat and then all of a sudden it jumps to the other side you might suspect speaking out then what is the difference anyway so I said I don't know and then after awhile they give back to the other side the driver side and it's with the probate on colonel collectively there was not found there was no propellers normally there's nothing is the son of my vehicle and I literally just shut up about here to be added the lights on the ground again and then it should go right now back to the he just died but that I was amazed you know what a classic citing that was back yes and and it's it's amazing so many of that kind of hole marks all the classics nineteen the the sudden movement of the object the the beam of light as if it's looking for something I think we sometimes make the mistake of thinking of UFOs it's just like an incompetent foster it seems to go above and beyond that and when you hear some of these extraordinary records one can't help but wonder if we aren't looking at almost what I would call in a totally new physics absolutely here's Eric consult the coda Eriko ahead yeah the possible reason why the military showing these videos if we get the ball and get and get Congress to backstage space program and funded well that's a possibility yeah you can't rule that out the big question is let me ask you where do you think they made up the videos or do you think they're pretty authentic you there yes there are there are many great videos all right now what do you think would they be releasing these because they want more money for the space force everyone wants more money I mean I think yeah all the branches of the military are probably looking at this and thinking well if we take the lead will we get more resources to deal with it when I was in the ministry defense I don't think I ever came across a manager who who didn't want more resources and you wouldn't try and leverage that bye bye not not by making things up but certainly by buying sort of highlighting any perceived threat so I think I think I I absolutely I don't think these were constructed to to fund the space force but it may well be the people involved in the space force and other branches of the military as saying look this is a defense and national security issue we need more resources so we can understand the nature of any potential threat to the United States or any opportunity we can derive from understanding this phenomenon this technology whatever it may be let's go out to Cornelius now in the wildcard line in Louisiana hello there Sir go ahead hello we read your genetic bar we stand bring the art bell would have been alive right now to see all of them along they'd love and they'd love what made you love with George George I was talking to your other partner George Knapp if you look in the American Legion magazine their spotlight you oppose in the military and I just wanted to ask Nick pope if you read the Bible you can see where there you have called in the Bible and I believe some of the steps is angle so I think it an angel taken steps I'll take my answer off the air god bless you Jordan thank you for thinking of the inmates and prison guards because nobody else does sure thing Dr very downing of course believes that these UFOs have some kind of very super natural reason what do you think thank yeah well again with active angels demons golf down holes and this is all these are all just human concepts for something that may go beyond our understanding the astronomer royal in the United Kingdom once used the analogy of well maybe it when we encounter extraterrestrials it would be like trying to explain quantum physics to a chimpanzee it's going to charity truck driving in Georgia squeeze in a call here go ahead tear Hey are you doing joys are you doing today wonderful is quick a couple years ago I was just thought of.

Pentagon George nori Nick pope navy
"american legion magazine" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

12:50 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Admiral is in command of the entire battle group can you have the captain's hand on any incident on this there's always recorded and archived audio recordings and by now I'm sure they even have video recordings to examine you know facial expressions of central of the commanding officers and job so what I'm suggesting to you this incident happened off of San Diego which is one of the largest naval bases on the west coast North Island they have two large information processing facilities national naval ocean systems center and naval electronics laboratory and the L. C. N. N. O. as saying so what I'm suggesting you were formally with the MOD neck and hi Frank it's possible that we are only big being given a fraction of what happened with this incident and were being denied satellite surveillance radars sonar the actual recordings on the bridge of the aircraft carrier and what was actually received at North Island in San Diego with central and I was wondering as a former MOT official what do you want to comment on that it seems like there would be much more including the satellite surveillance chore that you're absolutely right this is an integrated tax system with with multi hop to it and yeah we've we've seen the Ford looking infrared camera videos we've heard from some off the radar operators we've not really seen any of the details Mastin for Amy and analyses that will have been done absolutely you're right we've we've heard nothing about satellite data no not really an area that that I can get into much detail about on you know obviously have to keep this at unclassified level but your your city right and one thing we know is that the armed services committee the intelligence committee some senators have been briefed as has the president we know from a freedom of information act request that there are some top secret briefing slides about all this and some of the information that you we identified that the that will be in the system some of that information doubtless is summarized on those top secret briefing slide simplest definition top secret information the disclosure of which would cause exceptionally grave damage the United States so you're right we only have a small piece of a very big picture and we likely won't get those those other bits because of course so much of it is classic music videos rumors short I wonder if the longer they only sent us a little bit yes the I. again the same freedom of information act request that ten dot the existence of these top secret briefing slides did reveal that that there were secret videos and of course we know from the U. S. navy's own admission that these three incidents the three videos that's just the tip of the iceberg last year as you know the U. S. navy issued guidance to its pilots right now telling them what to do if they encounter these things and they said that guidance was drawn up because of an ongoing series of interactions into restricted military airspace Japan is doing that now with its pilots as well now it's minister of defense said that they haven't had any UFO encounters but they are training their pilots to study and report now that's interesting isn't it yeah and and this is a global phenomenon most countries have these reports there there are of course the still a little bit of statement of one of the pilots that see these things the radar operators that tracked them probably don't report that's changing I think the Pentagon's decision this week we'll we'll move things further along but but yeah with we still on the scene of the picture not not the whole image Francisco in Tucson Arizona is with us first time caller hi Francisco how are you thank you again for letting me in hello Mister Cole thank you I wanted to big strength of the deal that's something that happened to me and I was married at the time it might be sunk going up to from Tucson to California to LA anyway they decide to go on the thought that the you know that done but the one eleven going north to the sixty I was around twelve thirty I think in as I looked to my left there was nothing I can record my family received a lot about sixty fifty five not then that that too fast anyway to my left open you know quite quite high up that you know like coming down towards came down that it kind of stopped way up here about a mile of the enemy and I'm just looking at this thing you know and I wonder what it is and I I'd seen like like flashing underneath like you are looking for something in return opportunity mad me and I woke up by my action if you look at it so anyways he did that again if that opportunity finally came right next to me while on the opposite side of you know I'm I'm not driving and I as but as I was driving up became up and then it went back you know just the way that was going and I try to catch a good glimpse of it but it looked like he was around the bottom little chrome gene like like you know I'm not I don't know but you know I will get big pipe riding the bikes are lined up I feel a little glimpse of our lives it actually looks like the side of a cowboy hat and then all of a sudden it jumps to the other side you might suspect speaking out that what is it it's amazing it anyway so I said I don't know and then after awhile he came back to the other side the driver side and it's with the probate on democratic man there was not found there was no collars no there's nothing is the son of my vehicle and I literally just shown above my head of me and with the lights on the ground again and then it throughout right now back to the user's guide but that I was amazed you know what a classic citing that was back yes and it's it's amazing so many of that kind of hole marks all the classics nineteen the the sudden movement of the object the the beam of light as if it's looking for something I think we sometimes make the mistake of thinking of UFOs it's just like an incompetent foster it seems to go above and beyond that and when you hear some of these extraordinary records one can't help but wonder if we aren't looking at almost what I would call it a totally new physics absolutely here's Eric consult the coda Eric go ahead yeah the possible reason why the military showing these videos if we get the ball and get and get Congress to backstage space program and blind well that's a possibility yeah you can't rule that out the big question is let me ask you where do you think they made up the videos or do you think they're pretty authentic you there yes there there aren't any great videos all right Nick what do you think would they be releasing these because they want more money for the space force everyone wants more money I mean I think all the branches of the military are probably looking at this and thinking well if we take the lead will we get more resources to deal with it when I was in the ministry defense I don't think I ever came across a manager who who didn't want more resources and you wouldn't try and leverage that bye bye not not by making things up but certainly by buying sort of highlighting any perceived threat so I think I think I I absolutely I don't think these were constructed to to fund the space force but it may well be the people involved in the space force and on the branches of the military as saying look this is a defense and national security issue we need more resources so we can understand the nature of any potential threat to the United States or any opportunity we can derive from understanding this phenomenon this technology whatever it may be let's go out to Cornelius now in the wildcard line in Louisiana hello there Sir go ahead hello we read your genetic bar we stand bring the art bell would have been alive right now to see how long they'd love and they'd love we were very lovely George George I was talking to your other partner George Knapp if you look in the American Legion magazine their spotlight you oppose in the military and I just wanted to ask Nick pope if you read the Bible you can see where there you have called in the Bible and I believe some of the stuff is angel so I think it angel taken steps I'll take my answer I'll be here god bless you Jordan thank you for thinking of the inmates in the prison guards because nobody else does sure thing Dr very downing of course believes that these UFOs have some kind of very super natural reason what do you think thank yeah well again with active angels demons golfed apples and this is all these are all just human concepts for something that may go beyond our understanding the astronomer royal in the United Kingdom once used the analogy of well maybe it when we encounter extraterrestrial it would be like trying to explain quantum physics to a chimpanzee it's going to charity truck driving in Georgia squeeze in a call here go ahead tear Hey how you doing George how you doing today wonderful thanks is quick a couple years ago I was distraught Roswell it is about two three o'clock in the morning of the truck driver who's coming down that's how we got Bob Bob forty what Roswell and then all of a sudden there was an object like the object as well in the video it was in front of us next thing you know it moves to the right it was like back and forth from the from the left to the right like it was examined out right the delta radio out there do you see that light you see the object is to follow the and we we watched it as it were around it a bit of pride to the side to the back you know are you black it was sharp with us right and then all of a sudden it got back in front of us and just like the article the video took all this site object X. three the call the study was done wow in in Roswell New Mexico City for it to be there Nick were wrapping things up here what's new on your plate these days well obviously a little bit of a poor I have the whole film and TV industry of course slightly on hold at the moment but as as soon as everything's reopened and back up and running I have various TV and film projects that we could be seeing more alls and who knows you know maybe I'll use some of this time to to write another book and I look forward to seeing you at an event when things open up again I am like why is it it will be great to be back when we have re opened you're one of the good guys Nick pope former ministry of defense in Britain and he had the you of all files hand boy did he have them what's next investigative reporter Cheryl Jones on coast to coast AM never miss a detail on a show or a guest sign up for the coast zone email newsletter available for free coast to coast AM dot com the most powerful leaves and talk or heard.

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

12:47 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM

"And there's the admiral the admiral is in command of the entire battle group can you have the captain's hand on any incident on this there's always recorded and archived audio recordings and by now I'm sure they even have video recordings to examine you know facial expressions of central of the commanding officers and so what I'm suggesting to you this incident happened off of San Diego which is one of the largest naval bases on the west coast North Island they have two large information processing facilities national naval ocean systems center and naval electronics laboratory Anne L. C. N. N. O. as saying so what I'm suggesting you were formally with the MOD neck and I think it's possible that we are only big being given a fraction of what happened with this incident and we're being denied satellite surveillance radars sonar the actual recordings on the bridge of the aircraft carrier and what was actually received at North Island in San Diego with central and I was wondering as a former MOT official what do you want to comment on that it seems like there would be much more including the satellite surveillance chore you're absolutely right this is an integrated tax system with with multi contest to it and yeah we've we've seen the Ford looking infrared camera videos we've heard from some off the radar operators we've not really seen any of the details Mastin for Amy and analyses that will have been done absolutely right we've we've heard nothing about satellite data no not really an area that that I can get into much detail about on on the you know obviously have to keep this at unclassified level but your your city right and one thing we know is that the armed services committee the intelligence committee some senators have been briefed as has the president we know from a freedom of information act request that there are some top secret briefing slides about all this and some of the information that you we identified that the that will be in the system some of that information doubtless is summarized on those top secret briefing slide simplest definition top secret information the disclosure of which would cause exceptionally grave damage the United States so you're right we only have a small piece of a very big picture and we likely won't get those those other bits because of course so much of it is classic I mean the videos are very short I wonder if the longer they only sent us a little bit yes the again the same freedom of information act request that ten dot the existence of these top secret briefing slides did reveal that that there were secret videos and of course we know from the U. S. navy's own admission that these three incidents the three videos that's just the tip of the iceberg last year as you know the U. S. navy issued guidance to its pilots and that's right now telling them what to do if they encounter these things and they said that guidance was drawn up because of an ongoing series of interactions into restricted military airspace Japan is doing that now with its pilots as well now it's minister of defense said that they haven't had any UFO encounters but they are training their pilots to study and report now that's interesting isn't it yes and and this is a global phenomenon most countries have these reports there there are of course the still a little bit of statement of one of the pilots that see these things the radar operators that tracked them probably don't report that's changing I think the Pentagon's decision this week we'll we'll move things further along but but yeah we we still only seeing bits of the picture not not the whole image Francisco in Tucson Arizona is with us first time caller hi fresh princes go thank you again for letting a man and woman circle thank you I wanted to get claims of the deal that's something that happened to me and I was married at the time it might be sound going up to go to sound cool California to LA anyway they decide to go on the Salton sea you know and the but the one eleven going north to the sixty I was around twelve thirty I think in as I looked to my left it was night time accord my family received a lot about sixty fifty five did not then that that too fast anyway to my left open you know quite quite high up that you know like coming down towards is it came down and it kind of stopped way up I hear about a mile of the enemy and I'm just looking at this thing you know and I wonder what it is and I I've seen like like slashing underneath like you are looking for something in return opportunity mad me and I woke up by my action as you look at it so anyways he did that again is stopping and it finally came right next to me while on the opposite side of you know I'm I'm not driving and I but as I was driving up became up and then it went back we you know well told story that was going and I try to catch a good chance of it but it looked like he was around the bottom little chrome gene like like you know I'm not I don't know about you know the high will get big pipe riding the bike to align itself I feel a little glimpse of our lives it actually looked like the side of a cowboy hat and then all of a sudden it jumps to the other side you might suspect speaking out then what is it it's amazing it anyway so I said I don't know and then after awhile he came back to the other side the driver side and it's with the probate on channel connected man there was not found there was no propellers there's nothing is the son of my vehicle and I literally just shut up I had a very bad with the lights on the ground again and then it should go right now back to the he just died but that I was amazed you know what a classic citing that was neck yes and it's it's amazing so many of that kind of hole marks all the classics nineteen the the sudden movement of the object the the beam of light as if it's looking for something I think we sometimes make the mistake of thinking of UFOs it's just like an incompetent foster it seems to go above and beyond that and when you hear some of these extraordinary records one can't help but wonder if we aren't looking at almost what I would call in a totally new physics absolutely here's Eric and South Dakota Eric go ahead yeah the possible reason why the military showing these videos if we get the ball and get and get Congress to backstage space program and planned it well that's a possibility yeah you can't rule that out the big question is let me ask you where do you think they made up the videos or do you think they're pretty authentic there yes they are they're authenticate videos all right now what do you think would they be releasing these because they want more money for the space force everyone wants more money I mean I think yeah all the branches of the military are probably looking at this and thinking well if we take the lead will we get more resources to deal with it when I was in the ministry defense I don't think I ever came across a manager who who didn't want more resources and you wouldn't try and leverage that bye bye not not by making things up but certainly by buying sort of highlighting any perceived threat so I think I think I I absolutely I don't think these were constructed to to fund the space force but it may well be the people involved in the space force and other branches of the military as saying look this is a defense and national security issue we need more resources so we can understand the nature of any potential threat to the United States or any opportunity we can derive from understanding this phenomenon this technology whatever it may be let's go out to Cornelius now in the wildcard line in Louisiana hello there Sir go ahead hello there Georgia needed what we stand bring the art bell would have been alive right now to see how long they'd love and they'd love what made you love with George George I was talking to your other partner George Knapp if you look in the American Legion magazine their spotlight you oppose in the military and I just wanted to ask Nick pope if you read the Bible you can see where there you have called in the Bible and I believe some of the stuff is thank you so I think it's an angel taken steps I'll take my answer I'll be here god bless you Jordan thank you for thinking of the inmates and prison guards because nobody else does sure thing Dr very downing of course believes that these UFOs have some kind of very super natural reason what do you think neck yeah well again with active angels demons golf Dabhol's and this is all these are all just human concepts for something that may go beyond our understanding the astronomer royal in the United Kingdom once used the analogy of well maybe it when we encounter extraterrestrials it would be like trying to explain quantum physics to a chimpanzee it's going to charity truck driving in Georgia squeeze in a call here go ahead tear Hey how you doing joys are you doing today wonderful thanks is quick a couple years ago I was distraught Roswell it is about two three o'clock in the morning be another truck driver who's coming down but that's how we got Bob Bob forty what Roswell and then all of a sudden there was an object like the object as well in the video it was in front of us the next thing you know it moves to the right it was like back and forth from the from the left to the right like it was examining notes right and I had the gal the radio out there do you see that light you see the object is to follow the and we said we watched it as it were around it a bit apart to the side to the back you know are you black it was sharp with us right and then all of a sudden it got back in front of us and just like the article the video took all this site object X. three the calls the study was done wow in in Roswell New Mexico fitting for it to be there Nick were wrapping things up here what's new on your plate these days well obviously a little bit of a poor as the whole film and TV industry of course slightly on hold at the moment but as as soon as everything's re opened them back up and running I have various TV and film projects that yeah we could be seeing more alls and who knows you know maybe I'll use some of this time to to write another book and I look forward to seeing you at an event when things open up again I am like why is it will be great to be back when we have re opened you're one of the good guys Nick pope former ministry of defense in Britain and he had the you of all files and boy did he have them pop next investigative reporter Cheryl Jones on coast to coast AM never miss a detail on a show or a guest sign up for the coast zone email newsletter available for free coast to coast AM dot com.

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

13:53 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"And welcome back to coast to coast George nori with you along with Nick pope our final segment here is we're talking about primarily the Pentagon officially releasing three videos from navy fighter pilot said that the they took video of chasing strange objects when you don't know what they are you call them you foes but you know what's interesting neck every time you call it are you a fall everybody thinks it means extra terrestrial don't think yes and of course it doesn't and that's one of the reasons why we in the ministry of defense change the language from UFOs to you A. P. unidentified aerial phenomena back in the nineties when I was doing this and that now of course the U. S. military as we see not least this week with the Pentagon statement have adopted the same and they've even said yes we we got this from the British you've got to know Paul Hynek now the son of the late J. Allen Hynek right yes yeah we recommend a couple of times at conferences and because he's he's a consultant as you would expect on on the history show project bloopers yeah absolutely I wonder what his dad Dr J. Allen Hynek who was a skeptic and then became a believer would be thinking about these videos today what do you think he'd be loving it as as with Stanton Friedman and all my gosh the great Sioux we've lost they would be nothing less this this would be vindication they they would be center stage in the spotlight and that they would feel that well they Christmases had come at once Stanton would be saying you see it's not in my gray basket I'm late let's go to Thomas in the Hoya California Hey Tom go ahead hi George Johnson if I may be permitted some quick humor helps the ETS are here because humanity is tasting like god to servicemen serviceman anyway Nick it's a pleasure to speak with you always a pleasure to hear your perspective let's talk about this incident off of San Diego California the jet fighters were positioned on an aircraft carrier and naval aircraft carriers were always part of a naval battle group so you have the aircraft carrier you have the jets that are on top of the aircraft carrier you have accompanying destroyers submarines and above all several groups is always embedded in a web of information transfer let me elaborate there's always at least one satellite taking real time surveillance over a floating platform battle group like an aircraft carrier and we have radar we have sonar and of course we have the did you know the video and audio from the jets but there's more and I feel like we're being denied were being handed odds and sods you know what the video leaks but there's more when you have the bridge on an aircraft carrier there's two officers there's the captain and there's the admiral the admiral is in command of the entire battle group and you have the captain's hand on any incident on this there's always recorded and archived audio recordings and by now I'm sure they even have video recordings to examine you know facial expressions of central of the commanding officers and job so what I'm suggesting to you this incident happened off of San Diego which is one of the largest naval bases on the west coast North Island they have two large information processing facilities national naval ocean systems center and naval electronics laboratory Anne L. C. N. N. O. as saying so what I'm suggesting you were formally with the MOD neck and I think it's possible that we are only big being given a fraction of what happened with this incident and we're being denied satellite surveillance radars sonar the actual recordings on the bridge of the aircraft carrier and what was actually received at North Island in San Diego with central and I was wondering as a former MOT official what do you would comment on that it seems like there would be much more including the satellite surveillance chore that you're absolutely right this is an integrated tax system with with multi hop to it and yeah we've we've seen the Ford looking infrared camera videos we've heard from some off the radar operators we've not really seen any of the details Mastin for Amy and analyses that will have been done absolutely you're right we've we've heard nothing about satellite data no not really an area that that I can get into much detail about on on the you know obviously have to keep this at unclassified level but your your city right and one thing we know is that the armed services committee the intelligence committee some senators have been briefed as has the president we know from a freedom of information act request that there are some top secret briefing slides about all this and some of the information that you we identified that the that will be in the system some of that information doubtless is summarized on those top secret briefing slide simplest definition of top secret information the disclosure of which would cause exceptionally grave damage the United States so you're right we only have a small piece of a very big picture and we likely won't get those those other bits because of course so much of it is classic I mean the videos are very short I wonder if they're longer they only sent us a little bit yes the hi again the same freedom of information act request that ten dot the existence of these top secret briefing slides did reveal that that there were secret videos and of course we know from the U. S. navy's own admission that these three incidents the three videos that's just the tip of the iceberg last year as you know the U. S. navy issued guidance to its pilots and that's right now telling them what to do if they encounter these things and they said that guidance was drawn up because of an ongoing series of interactions into restricted military airspace Japan is doing that now with its pilots as well now it's minister of defense said that they haven't had any you are for when counters but they are training their pilots to study and report now that's interesting isn't it yes and and this is a global phenomenon most countries have these reports there there are of course the still a little bit of statement of one of the pilots that see these things the radar operators the trying them probably don't report that's changing I think the Pentagon's decision this week we'll we'll move things further along but but yeah we we still only seeing bits of the picture not not the whole image Francisco in Tucson Arizona is with us first time caller hives princes go are you a big again for letting me in and along with your photo thank you I wanted to explain something to you that's something that happened to me and I was married at the time it might be sound going up to to sound cool California to LA anyway they decide to go on the top in the you know that done but the one eleven going north to the sixty I was around twelve thirty I think in as I looked to my left it was night time accord my family received a line about sixty fifty five not then that that too fast anyway to my left open not quite quite high up that you know like coming down towards a good clean down at it kind of way up I hear about a mile ahead of me and I'm just looking at this thing you know and I wonder what it is and I I'd seen like drag lasting underneath like you are looking for something in the current opportunity mad me N. I woke up by my ex and I did look at that so anyways it did that again it happened in it finally came right next to me while on the opposite side of you know I'm I'm not driving and I as but as I was driving up became up and then it went back you know just the way that was going and I try to catch a good glimpse of it but it looked like he was around the bottom and they'll call my a team like like you know and I don't know but you know I will get back by writing the boundary line about I feel a little glimpse of our lives it was actually look like the side of a cowboy hat and then all of a sudden it jumps to the other side of my tongue thanks we give out that what is it that makes it anyway so I said I don't know and then after awhile he came back to the other side the driver side and it's with the probate on colonel connected man there was not found there was no propellers there's nothing is the son of my vehicle and I will certainly get shown above I had a very bad that the lights on the ground again an image without right now back to the this guy but that I was amazed you know what a classic citing that was back yes and and it's it's amazing so many of that kind of hole marks all the classics nineteen the the sudden movement of the object the the beam of light as if it's looking for something I think we sometimes make the mistake of thinking of UFOs it's just like an incompetent foster it seems to go above and beyond that and when you hear some of these extraordinary reports one can't help but wonder if we aren't looking at almost what I would call in a totally new physics absolutely here's Eric consult the coda Eric go ahead yeah the possible reason why the military showing these videos it would get the ball and get and get Congress to back did space program and burned it well that's a possibility yeah you can't rule that out the big question is let me ask you where do you think they made up the videos or do you think they're pretty authentic you there yes there are there are many great videos all right Nick what do you think would they be releasing these because they want more money for the space force everyone wants more money I mean I think yeah all the branches of the military are probably looking at this and thinking well if we take the lead will we get more resources to deal with it when I was in the ministry defense I don't think I ever came across a manager who who didn't want more resources and wouldn't try and leverage that bye bye not not by making things up but certainly by buying sort of highlighting any perceived threat so I think I think I I absolutely I don't think these were constructed to to fund the space force but it may well be the people involved in the space force and other branches of the military as saying look this is a defense and national security issue we need more resources so we can understand the nature of any potential threat to the United States or any opportunity we can derive from understanding this phenomenon this technology whatever it may be let's go out to Cornelius now in the wildcard line in Louisiana hello there Sir go ahead George you need what we stand bring the art bell would have been alive right now to see all of them along they'd love and they'd love will one day live with your your job of talking to your other partner George Knapp if you look in the American Legion magazine their spotlight you opposed in the military and I just wanted to ask Nick pope if you read the Bible you can see where there you have called in the Bible and I believe some of the is angel so I think it an angel taken steps I'll take my answer I'll be here god bless you Jordan thank you for thinking of the inmates and prison guards because nobody else does sure thing Dr berry downing of course believes that these UFOs have some kind of very super natural reason what do you think back yeah well again with back to angels demons golf staff also and this is all these are all just human concepts for something that may go beyond our understanding the astronomer royal in the United Kingdom once used the analogy of well maybe it when we encounter extraterrestrial it would be like trying to explain quantum physics to a chimpanzee it's going to charity truck driving in Georgia squeeze on a call here go ahead tear Hey how you doing George how you doing today wonderful thanks is quick.

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

12:39 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. out though the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he added any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down and the quarantine set were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had a gassed Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to talk about what markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have a we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the coast because website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser might be achieved so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends now and and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he'd like to joke we use the phrase they rediscover selves as militant agnostics and this time the melts and then use the agnostic he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper there's a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that paper in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which she recalls she solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of that so people should check out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is courageous journalists that excellent report program is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sorry okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thought the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they had might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what other doctors opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager on university find not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile when we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe ignorance of blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any in all honesty keys in the neighborhood and someone that you know why why not let us with dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the Voyager thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a fourth possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just have a local habits that affect the get out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any keys that are here how hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument and then my other is there any civilization that survive long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have happened it happened after become peaceful they would not have hostile intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah I tried in almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior course as as these creatures must be up to thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about certainly there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand of one of the not bothering us and sleeping dogs argument kind of argument right and then right yeah can I take your point west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is headed with rose to seventy of Darwinian evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on Floyd now and it's it's almost points the reasonable based on on Darwin on the body on reductionist science the problem with Darlin by the way Sir to the left and I have another objection is it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the Laborie tree you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of a it's not who you know would it if something from your route to to accept this book it's only can't be proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle it says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the churches come under attack is that we can't have some pre races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics which which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got a an addition to religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks George it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and there are many sort of parts of our lives in Madison knowledge of the world or what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all of our knowledge as soon as we were alone in the were in charge I do think that there though there is one continuity there and about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human beings last central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings west central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past two centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way to make us part of just the nature of the whole and this you upload when I'm on a wave continues out about that and if we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of the house probably yeah the March of science is a lesson in humility how and where we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study there say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good the national clan is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the national claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence if you look at those native videos that's another evident to me that thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that that's where he settled at least down the road in a sense if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on and that is simply the kind of things but the of the native video show I thought we have cracked let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study yet to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius and Louisiana I Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and you have clothes and stuff so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that ms Cole bit nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but.

Raymond Donna university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

12:51 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KGO 810

"Coast to coast AM on KGO eight ten Alex quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. out fo the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he added any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down in the quarantine set were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had a gassed Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the low cost goes website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser for my PhD so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends now and and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he tried to joke we use the phrase they would describe ourselves as militant agnostics and he says I'm a militant and use the economic he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper there's a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which he recruits he solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of that so people should check that out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is courageous journalists that excellent report is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sorry okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the stops the the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they had might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager in university find not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile one we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe ignorance of blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any you know honesty keys in the neighborhood and so on and that you know why why not let us with dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the boys are thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a fourth possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just happen to be a local Adamson they just have to get out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any new teachers that are here hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument and then my other is there any civilization that survive long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have to be hard after become peaceful they would not have hostile intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us sailors on that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intentional but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign you some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know who you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right in almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior forests as as these creatures must be up to thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about it there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand is one of the not bothering us and sleeping dogs argument kind of argument right and then right yeah can I take your point about west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is that it was supposed to sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on for right now and it's it's all Floyd sceneries were based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with Darwin by the way since the last and I have another objection is the it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the Laborie tree you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not being you know with it it's something from theory to to accept this it's almost it can't be proved by experiments it's theoretical the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle he says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can have some pre races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics which which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got all an addition the religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to orange it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and many sort of parts of Mandy is knowledge of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that there though there's one continuity this isn't about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human beings love central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past few centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way or make us part of just the nature of the whole and those who are pro when I'm on a wave continues fast process and if we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of fast probably yeah the March of science is a lesson in humility how and where we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot on folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study this say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets are planes are birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not there the national claim is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence you look at those native videos that's enough evidence for me to thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that that's where he settled at least down the road in a sense and if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on and that is simply the kind of things that the of the native video show that's all we have to attack let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study yet to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius in Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker in the American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFOs instead of so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna give you some real quick I believe that ms Cole may of nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but.

Raymond Donna Alex university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

11:17 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Warning to humanity that you know it's quite but might possibly have viable for us to keep a low profile one we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe a nonsense blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any you know are any indication the neighborhood and so on and that you know why find out what is the dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the boys are trying is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy that do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a fourth possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just have a local Adams but about the get out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any new teachers that are here have hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument and then my other is there any civilization that survive long enough to be capable of interstellar travel but almost certainly have happened it happened after become peaceful they would not have hostile intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of hostile intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know if you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right and almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior course as as these creatures must be up to thirty or so in a way even the good intentions don't say about certainly there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand as long as I'm not bothering us spend fifteen dollars argument kind of argument right and then on the outside I take your point about how west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is headed with rows of sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on flight now and it's it's all Floyd's theories were based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with Darwin by the way Sir to the left and I have another objection it's it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the Laborie tree you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not being you know it it's something from theory to to accept as well as owns it can't be proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle it says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can't have superior races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics which which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got all an addition the religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we one would be better than that but we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to arch X. Mike well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and there are many sort of parts of nowadays knowledge of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that there though there's one continuity there and about the Darwinian revolution part of a consequence of that was to make human beings glass central glass the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past few centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way to make us part of just the nature of the whole and the CFO and I'm on a wave continues fast process and if we do finally come to grips with that and if we if we do discover thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of south probably yeah the March of science as a lesson in humility how and more we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study there say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good financial claim it's not you oppose are here and there he teased the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence if you look at those native videos that's enough evidence for me to thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that that were his several that leads down the road in a sense if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on the mat is simply the kind of things that the but maybe they are so I thought we have fact let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study yet to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius and Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFOs and stuff so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that this covert nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but if you check out of that magazine I think that would be a good thing for you the military and you oppose American Christian magazine I think that our work met I think that are I think an article was written by Chris Mellon who is now working with TSA but he's a long time intelligence officer work for the Senate intelligence committee and then was an intelligence undersecretary admitted as secretary of some level in the Pentagon for years but thanks yeah that's a good article I'm out you should check that out for sure thank you for calling and matching it to us we're going to might in Maui Hey Mike there what's on your mind hello this is Mike hi Mike what's on your mind how you doing there we're doing well kind of found a way how you doing I've kind of found a way to use my cell phone and take pictures of scenery and stuff and then refracted light and I'm gonna tell you that I found interesting creatures I have to say that aren't from here that are inside they're all around us basically a live right on this planet so again I'm not crazy I'm not on drugs or anything like that but I just like to say that I thank goodness for about a year now and I've checked on different cell phones internet and I just want to challenge my listeners to take their cell phone take a few snapshots out there refract the light the dark shadows in the trees and see if they can not find what I found well Mike wanted to send us some of those photos I'll take a look at him I appreciate it if you would send them to me or not more more less like taking pictures of the moon landing at the Mars rover shot and I've also found civilization on Mars and press I'll tell you what bike you send them to us we'll take a look at him but we're get a little off the track for my guest Alex and but I'm happy to take a look at him if you want to email some of them to be or to coast to coast AM though the website thanks for calling Alex do you have thoughts about maybe pursuing this further and maybe a book form or additional articles or or do you think you had a lay low for awhile well this at this stage I'm all in but the tax talk so but I have to bottom and this is for me always been a bit of a side white on my riding in my career and so I can't look too much time to it but I have thought about.

Steve Alex Chuck Berry hawking
"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

12:49 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Alex a quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. out though the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he added any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down and the quarantine set were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had a gassed Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote a sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the cost goes website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser for my PhD so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends Allen and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he tried to joke we use the phrase they would describe ourselves as militant agnostics and he says I'm the melts and then use the agnostic well he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper there's a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that paper in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which she recalls she solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of that so people should check out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is a courageous journalists that excellent report program is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sorry okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thought the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they had might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit hi the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the N. nineteen seventy seven Voyager on university find not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile when we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe ignorance of blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any in all honesty keys in the neighborhood and someone that you know why why not let us with dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the Voyager thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a poor possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just have a local Adams they just have to get out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows it is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any new teaser here hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument and then my elders there any civilization that survived long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have to be happy after become peaceful they would not have hostile intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention of all but that doesn't mean their intentions of a nine year some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know if you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right in almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior forests as as these creatures must be at the thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about those going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when I contact you well actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand of one of the not bothering us and sleeping dogs argument kind of argument right and then on the outside I take your point west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is that it with roses sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on flight now and it's it's all Floyd series will based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with Darwin by the way since to the left and I have another objection is it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the board three you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not being you know what it takes something from theory to to accept this book it's only can't be proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle he says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can't have superior races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics with which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got all an addition to religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to it it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and there are many sort of parts of our lives in Madison knowledge of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all of our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that there though there's one continuity this isn't about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human beings last central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings what central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past two centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way and make us part of just the nature of the whole and those who are pro when I'm on a wave continues fast pop that thing that we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover the thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of fast probably yeah the March of science is a lesson in humility how and the more we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study this say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good the national clan is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence you look at those making a videos that's enough evidence for me to thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that but were you several weeks down the road in a sense and if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on and that is simply the kind of things would be but maybe they have a show I thought we have crack let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study at the get go yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius in Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFO themselves so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that ms Cole bit nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russian so that's my point on that but if you check out that magazine I think that would be a good thing for you the military and you oppose American Christian magazine I think that are you know I think that are I think.

Raymond Donna Alex university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

13:17 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Alex quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. although the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he had any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down and the quarantine set were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had aghast Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the coast because website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser for my PhD so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends Alan and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he'd like to joke we use the phrase written describer cells of militants agnostics and use that time to melt and then use the agnostic he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper has a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that paper in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which he recruits he solicited the paper from us once you heard about it and we rode a new version of it so people should check that out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is a courageous journalists that excellent report program this might be my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sorry okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thought the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they had might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is a related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager in university find not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile one we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about the first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings survive long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have after they have become peaceful they would not have possible intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions of Amman some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know who you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right in almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected M. and profoundly superior forests out as these creatures must be up to thirty or so in a way even the good intentions don't say about certainly there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when I contact scenario actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe the the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's because on the other hand as long as I'm not bothering us and hoping dogs argument kind of argument right and right yeah can I take your point west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is that it will with roses sovereignty of car Winnie and evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on Floyd now and it's it's all Floyd series will based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with Darwin by the way for the left and I have another objection is the it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the board three you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not you know it's it's something from theory to to accept this it's only fifteen people proved by experiments it's theoretical the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle he says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can't have superior races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics with which which led to a lot of racism but then that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got all an addition to religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our row you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternative if you have any comments on that thanks to it thanks Mike well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and many sort of parts of our lives in Madison mileage of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that though though there's one continuity that you think about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human being hello central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past few centuries Giunti Modine and being sent away and make us part of just nature as a whole and the CFO and I'm on a wave continues fab process we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover the thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of the house probably yeah the March of science is a lesson in humility how and where we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study there say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets are planes are birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to your foes it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good the national clan is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the national clientele there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence if you look at those native videos that's enough evidence for me to thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that the were you several weeks down the road in a Samsung we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on and that is simply the kind of things with the but maybe they are so I thought we have fact let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study at the get go yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius in Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFOs and stuff so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that ms Cole bit nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but if you check out that magazine I think that would be a good thing for you the military and you oppose American Legion magazine I think that are what make I think that are I think an article was written by Chris Mellon who's now working with TSA but he's a long time intelligence officer work for the Senate intelligence committee and then was an intelligence undersecretary admitted as secretary of some level in the Pentagon for years but thanks yeah that's a good article I'm out you should check that out for sure thank you for calling and matching it to us we're going to Mike in Maui Hey Mike.

Raymond Donna Alex university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

13:17 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"Alex quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. out fo the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he added any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down and the quarantines that were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had a gassed Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have a we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote a sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the cost goes website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser might be achieved so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends now and and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he tried to joke we use the phrase they would describe ourselves as militant agnostics and he says I'm the melts and then use the agnostic well he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper there's a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that paper in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which she recalls she solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of that so people should check that out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is a courageous journalists that excellent report program is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sorry okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thoughts the the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they have might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager in universal time not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile when we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe ignorance of blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any you know are any increase in the neighborhood and so on and that you know why why not let us dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the Voyager thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a poor possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just have a local I have a bit of it out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any new keys that are here hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument then they my others there any civilization that survive long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have to be hard I have to have become peaceful they would not have possible inventions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah I tried in almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior forests out as these creatures must be up to thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about certainly there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand of one of the not bothering us and clipping dogs argument kind of argument right and then right yeah can I take your point west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is headed with roses sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which is dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on Floyd now and it all for you to be reasonable based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with garland but wait for it to the left and I have another objection it's it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the Laborie tree you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not being you know it it's something from your route to to accept as well it's only ten people proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle it says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can't have superior races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics with which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got all an addition the religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to orange it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and many sort of parts of of the Madison mallards of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this because all our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that there though there is one continuity there and about the Darwinian revolution part of a consequence of that was to make human beings love central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past two centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way to make us part of just the nature of the whole and those who oppose up when I'm on a wave continues fab out that we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of the house probably yeah the March of science is a lesson in humility how and more we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study there say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good financial plan is not you oppose or here in the U. P. the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence you look at those native videos that's another evident to me that thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that but were you several weeks down the road in a sense and if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on the mat is simply the kind of things that the but maybe they are so that's all we have to crack let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study yet to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius and Louisiana I Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling the Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFO themselves so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that ms Cole bit nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but if you check out that magazine I think that would be a good thing for you the military and you oppose American Christian magazine I think that are you know I think that are I think an article was written by Chris Mellon who's now working with TSA but he's a long time intelligence officer work for the Senate intelligence committee and then was an intelligence undersecretary admitted as secretary of some level in the Pentagon for years but thanks yeah that's a good article I'm out you should check that out for sure thank you for calling and managing it to us we're going to Mike in Maui Hey Mike.

Raymond Donna Alex university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

13:16 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"A quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. out fo the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he had any feedback about the paper himself hello I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do want to mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus and the shut down and the quarantines that were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had a gassed Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the coast because website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser for my PhD so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends now and and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he tried to joke we use the phrase the written describer selves as militant agnostics and he says I'm the melts and then use the agnostic well he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper it is a much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which she recalls she solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of that so people should check out if they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is courageous journalists that excellent report program is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model sure okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thoughts the the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they have might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you Mandy and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager in universal time not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite but not possibly advisable for us to keep a low profile one we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about that first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think that is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe a dancer's blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any you know are any indication the neighborhood in San Juan and that you know why why not let us with dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the boys are thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to get us or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a poor profitability which is that they're not interested enough at all there may be here for other reasons completely and we just have a local Adams and it out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a overt hostility the less likely it is that any new teachers that are here hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument then they might others there any civilization that survived long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have happened it happened after become peaceful they would not have possible intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign you some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right and almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because of our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior forests out as these creatures must be up to thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about their own lives there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them that doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand of one of the not bothering us and sleeping dogs argument kind of argument right and then right yeah can I take your point about west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is that it will with roses sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which has dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on for right now and it all for you to be reasonable based on on Darling on the body reductionist science the problem with garland by the way for it to the left and I have another objection is the it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the Laborie tree you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of if not being you know it it jumping from theory to to accept as well it's only can't be proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle he says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can't have superior races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Francis Galton coined the term eugenics which which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they've been with tackle all of you people for being racists so you got a an addition the religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that will we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to it it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and many sort of parts of our lives in Madison knowledge of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all our knowledge assumes that were alone in the world in charge I do think that there though there's one continuity there and about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human beings last central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past few centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way to make us part of just the nature of the whole and the CFO and I'm on a wave continues out about that we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of the house probably yes the March of science is a lesson in humility how and where we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they yeah I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular evidence tonight and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study this say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not good the national clan is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky we have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence you look at those native videos that's another evident to me that thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that but where he settled at least down the road in a sense and if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on the mat is simply the kind of things that the but maybe they are shallow I thought we have cracked let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study yet to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius and Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFOs instead of so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that this covert nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but if you check out that magazine I think that would be a good thing for you the military and you oppose American Christian magazine I think that are you know I think that are I think article was written by Chris Mellon who's now working with TSA but he's a long time intelligence officer work for the Senate intelligence committee and then was an intelligence undersecretary admitted as secretary of some level in the Pentagon for years but thanks yeah that's a good article I'm out you should check that out for sure thank you for calling and managing it to us we're going to Mike in Maui Hey Mike.

Raymond Donna university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

12:39 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on WTVN

"Alex a quick question before we go back to the phones it's about sovereignty in the U. R. fo the paper you co wrote with Raymond of all university of Minnesota are you still in touch with him and as he added any feedback about the paper himself I think we might have lost our guests will just hang on here for a second and Donna will try to re establish contact I do wanna mention you know we're talking about in the news segment of the program sort of having time to with the virus in the shut down and the quarantines that were we have time to sort of reflect on the the state of the earth you'll recall that a month ago we had aghast Wayne Pacelle E. here on on coast to coast to talk about when markets and the source of the virus okay all right well apparently we do have we do have Alex back now Alex I was gonna ask about ramen devol university Minnesota and this paper that you guys co wrote a sovereignty of the UFO which Greg bishop I think it's gonna tweeted out here soon or put it on the coast because website are you still in touch with him and did he get feedback about that paper but he was my graduate adviser for my PhD so I've known him for my entire career we're good friends Alan and he just retired he's let me take all the feedback as he tried to joke we use the phrase they rediscover selves as militant agnostics and use that time to melt and then use the agnostic he's been he's kept some distance but he was supportive and he provided some crucial ideas in the paper I should also point out that that paper the much more reader friendly and a shorter version of that in Leslie Kean's acts one volume in two thousand and ten called UFOs which she recalls she solicited the paper from us when she heard about it and we rode a new version of it so people should check out out of they want to yeah that's that's great Leslie is a courageous journalists that excellent report program is my been my guest and a friend of mine for a long time I will go back to the phone lines first time caller Steve in Montreal hi Steve you're on with Alex went actually I'm calling from model okay Montreal yeah I I basically agreed with the reasoning presented by the doctor regarding the thought the powers that be to not really addressing this issue directly but I'd like to ask a couple of questions related to this and related to the potential extensions of the extraterrestrials if they do exist and in my opinion not their intentions probably would fall under three possible categories the writer here to help us or to observe and learn or to dominate and exploit those are general categories mind you that that I have notions that they had might be motivated by and I'm just wondering what are the doctor's opinion is on the fact that is it likely that their intentions are good towards us the longer that no overt attempts are made to dominate or exploit the earth and of course you manatee and the second question I have is related question and that is regarding that famous gold record that was sent out with the I. nineteen seventy seven Voyager in universal fine not mistaken I'm looking at it on the internet here it reveals a tremendous amount of information about us and I think I recall Stephen Hawking shortly before he died all stating a warning to humanity that you know it's quite possibly a viable for us to keep a low profile one we think about activities of broadcasting our existence the universe all right Steve lets let Alex jump into that you know my reaction if I were the ETA's I'd be saying about that goal record send more Chuck Berry but Alex what do you think about the first the idea that hawking about hawking's warnings well I mean I think it is understandable and there is an interesting question whether maybe ignorance of blasts and we should not be looking into this issue at all and we want to avoid contact if there is any you know Arnie each even neighborhood in San Juan and that you know why why not let us with dog why so I think that the the question he was raising about the boys are thing is is an important one that needs to be discussed but it should be discussed and we should have a strategy and do we want to do this or not but it does come back to the first question the car up which I thought was a good one about hostile intentions there is a fourth possibility which is that they're not interested enough at all they're gonna be here for other reasons completely and we just happen to be a local Adams and they just have to get out of our way personally I don't think that the most likely of course who knows this is all speculation but I do think that the longer it goes with no sign of a over hostility the less likely it is that any new teaser here hostile intentions and my guess is that this argument and then my other is there any civilization that survived long enough to be capable of interstellar travel would almost certainly have to be happy after become peaceful they would not have hostile intentions basically if they want to conquer and exterminate us they would have done that a long time ago it seems to me so I don't see any evidence of possible intention at all but that doesn't mean their intentions are benign some thanks for the call Steve I guess you know you boil it down to why are they here if they are here that's the really big source of the taboo is that that's really what scares us we don't know yeah that's right and almost any answer even if they're here to help could be destructive because our society might collapse in the face of such a profoundly unexpected and profoundly superior forests as as these creatures must be up to thirty or so the way even the good intentions don't say about them certainly there's going to be a real challenge in managing our own response if and when a contact email actually occurs also what does not save us choosing to not study them they don't go away because we don't study them they're they're here they've been here if you believe that the reports we've had from over the centuries and just the fact that we put a blanket over her head and don't look at them it doesn't make them go away either I don't think that's true on the other hand as long as they're not bothering us sleeping dogs argument kind of argument right and then right yes and I take your point west of the Rockies Mike and Reno hi Mike you're on with Alex went hi in addition to what's being said the main scientific taboo is that it with roses sovereignty of Darwinian evolution which is dominated western science since eighteen fifty nine and his book the origin of species that's been accepted science materialism I'm reading a little on flight now and it's it's all Floyd series will based on on Darling all on the body reductionist science the problem with garland by the way for us to the left and I have another objection is the it's called the theory because it can't be replicated in the report for you you can't replicate a billion or half a billion years in the laboratory which is the basis of it's not people who you know it it's something from theory to to accept as well as long as it can be proved by experiments it's theoretical the the other thing now which is much more controversial and subtle it says it's racist and the left opposition to this engine the church has come under attack is that we can have some pre races this in itself doesn't contradict Darwin because you know Darwin's cousin Frances Galton coined the term eugenics with which which led to a lot of racism but that this is the left's latest attack we can't have some pre races and so they're going to attack all of you people for being racists so you got a hole and it isn't the religions look upon them as demons so there's a whole slew of opposition to this but it's it's cracking and you know what what what led you said what we won with medicine that we're we're going to have to share our you know I will place in the universe and and it's shocking but I don't think there's any alternatives if you have any comments on that thanks to it it's my well there's a lot there I certainly agree that there is a challenger to Darwinian thinking and and there are many sort of parts of of Madison knowledge of the world are what we think is our knowledge of the world that are potentially threatened by this phenomenon because all of our knowledge assumes that were alone in the were in charge I do think that though though there's one continuity there and about the Darwinian revolution part of the consequence of that was to make human beings love central left the center of the universe and likewise the component in revolution also made human beings by central so there's kind of a historical trend over the past few centuries Giunti mode human beings in a way and make us part of just the nature of the whole and those who are pro when I'm on a wave continues fab process we do finally come to grips with it and if we if we do discover the thirty teams then it will become very clear that we're not at the top of the food chain but somewhere in the middle of fast probably yes the March of science is a lesson in humility how and more we know about the universe the less significant we become yeah they I I know there's a lot of folks on the phones but I I wanted to address this this famous quote from Carl Sagan that always pops up extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I always wonder well why don't they just why don't claims just require regular events at night and I think of it in the context the UFOs we generally people who study there say ninety percent of them could probably be explained their mis identifications of planets or planes or birds or something like that forgetting that you know when it comes to UFOs it only takes one doesn't you'll need a thousand of them if one is proving to be real it's it's profound yeah I know that's right and I think that and what is the claim here the claim is not financial plan is not you oppose are here and they're easy to use the initial claim as there are some weird things in the sky you have no idea what they are let's go study that argument does not require extraordinary evidence if you look at those native videos that's enough evidence for me to thank hasten scientists to go check this out so I think in a way Sagan's argument is overstated or he's assuming that that's where he settled at least down the road in a sense if we need to stick with what we really know the real facts that we can get a grip on and that is simply the kind of things that the but maybe they are so that's all we have to attack let's start there and just start investigating yeah and if you really do need extraordinary evidence the way to go get it is to study it to get going yeah I would go to the wildcard line Cornelius in Louisiana hi Cornelius good morning Hey George and Dr went god bless both be all yours is my second time talking to you I was a military police officer had top secret clearance and stuff and my question I was telling this Donna Walker any American Legion magazine this month made magazine it's got article about the military and UFOs instead of so I hope you'll check that out back to win and George I'm gonna get you some real quick I believe that this covert nineteen is a biological bomb log that I studied this when when I was a military police officer but it was with the Russians so that's my point on that but.

Raymond Donna Alex university of Minnesota
"american legion magazine" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

WZFG The Flag 1100AM

07:16 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

"Obviously take that seriously Danny did you mention the oath of enlistment the static didn't have a time frame it doesn't expire so I still feel that same responsibility to this country and to American veterans well that's one of the reasons why people you like you and I are friends I think hi am why there's a lot more a lack of in legion I recently transferred my legion membership to a new post in the grand rapids area post one one one one its founding commander Jenna Wilmers is featured in this month's American Legion magazine because of the virus we haven't even had our first meeting face to face but were active I'm in my late seventies and I've been called to be sure I'm all right that kind of taking care of people is something that well is that typical in the legion today well Danny that's a great place to start the American Legion is using a process we call the body check and if you're familiar with anything military you heard about battle buddies but the body check program is just a continuation of that battle buddy thing just it's taken on you comrades is check in on your buddies to make sure they are all right and we boast and and legionnaires across the country are actively participating in this body check phone call and it's a way to follow up and verify the fact that people are okay is there anything we can do is there any way we can help and none of those but he ticks I'll have they've continued to grow and and a lot of participation doing that and some of those projects have even developed into what we call an enhanced but he checked and that enhance body check gives people the opportunity look big in major trash cans carried back from the car can we make a trip to the market can we make a trip to a local drug store and pick up a prescription but it's a way to to verify that those veterans and it did it so it's open to anybody but it's a way to verify and make sure those literature okay and not let people know I we're still your battle buddy we still care about you still want to do to be okay and let us know if there's anything we can do but that muddy check is it working extremely well we have had a great success across the country well obviously in the past twenty or thirty years I don't remember this ever happening but there was never any reason to have my only concern is that because I'm pushing seventy nine they won't let me go out to the store for somebody else they just want to go to the store for me and that's your hurt my ego bill how do I change well baby beds unfortunately as as we as we do a little bit older people tend to look after us a little more about the same way I my wife tries to keep million but I like to go out and and provide help to Mississippi for a day well I feel the same way this is colonel Danny Gilman frontlines of freedom we're talking with the American Legion national commander bill Oxford bill is this battle body concept something new I don't remember it happening before but then again there really wasn't a big need any kind of a neat really before is this something that should just come to life in the legion or is it been there all the time or how's that happen well it's it's a relatively new concept that the brit Rustad who is the national commander for American Legion last year developed this program and it was his idea his concept his his baby but since I was elected we strive to continue just to make sure that people are okay but since this coronaviruses like has come up it's given us a good opportunity to make sure everybody understands whose and legion is what we do and know that we care about our veterans and and our communities well we do want to do that can I take it because it's logical that the the battle buddy concept is within the legion is there also a move higher match there is an individual legions to go beyond that to just out into the community or because I suspect the legion is primarily take care of the legion first that's a a good concept we could take care of America first for ridicule of the world but you just have a vision of going out into the community leaders going out of the community well today we were not limited to anybody and we're not limited it to just veterans but as we as we think about the the buddy check program across the country the and they are legion post across the country but doing the battle buddy checks to the buddy check calls but there are legion post also entered a reaching out to their communities with blood drives with a drive through restaurant with the the other things with good collecting extra class for the the veterans and the elderly members of their community so we have we have encouraged our our legion post and legion air's to reach out and make sure the community knows who we are they were available and that we want to help and do our part so it's not limited but we were trying to take care of our veterans first and that's very reasonable I took care of my family first so there's nothing wrong with that as long as you got the ability to go further and like you I'm out of my community more than maybe I could be with a letter and I'm very healthy and other stuff needs to be done out there so I guess each person got to make that judgment for themselves that we can't be foolish absolutely we gotta make sure we were okay before we can help somebody else indeed very well put bills what final thought would you like to share with our listeners today as as our nation continues to face this national crisis even more well it is a it is a a national emergency on this plant them because has called the great harm to the country that will be okay it's a it's a difficult time in in America's history but as we as we continue to develop and create the process is to get to it one week when we get through will be strong will be better because of it but I would I would just encourages the the listeners took to be careful a practice that social distancing when you go out to make sure and and wash your hands when you get back take care and listen to your local authorities as as they have recommendations for a group sizes make sure that you stay in as much as possible but I would just encourage everybody to follow your local regulation from your local and state governments the center for disease control and the World Health Organization we need to make sure we're okay before we can be able to help but you never know Ford will we will come out of it and will be better because of it bill very well said thank you commander offer flick in time to join us today thank you for.

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

KDWN 720AM

09:01 min | 2 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on KDWN 720AM

"Dot US on FACEBOOK watchers type in questions same way get back to us give us your questions or comments please pass the back off to me back off the road today actually I had done that once was the only store a head but once again you can learn more about this dramatic or call chronic but this brain degenerating diseases your brain goes to different things and as I said they can't see it and to your dad so it's very important that we get that across donate your brain please project analysts dot org we'll do that for you well we have to pay attention to it we have to be proactive in it we have talked for the last four five years on the mental health issues you have a safe talk class coming up not until February seventeenth okay we're not in general what we already had one we had last week and right and once again it's going to be February seventeenth which just so happens to be presidents day and the V. T. R. C. will be closed but we will be open for that class from twelve thirty to four we do have a limited amount of seating so we ask that you call the Nevada offices suicide prevention to make a reservation so that you can get in that class that number is seven zero two four eight six eight two two five talked to Richard Egan telling me you want to get into safe talk into V. T. R. C. and he will set you up okay and how many people want to save talks stand for safe talk stand for suicide alertness for everyone okay three and a half hour clash I urge you to sign up and take that three and a half hour class it will be the best three and a half hours are you ever spent in most cases people that have gone through that training over ninety percent of the time the first time they will use that trend is with a friend or family member take time three and a half hours of your life to go save somebody else's now you have a cyst class coming up as well this is classes coming up in April and that stands for applied to side intervention skills training that's an intensive two day class were you not only learn the signs and symptoms of someone thinking about suicide but you also learn how to do an intervention and I want to step back to save talk for second the past last class that I had we had to turn he's in there and they practiced family law so they saw five people getting divorced in there and they were so happy they took that class and they started thinking they start relying in some of the stuff in the class that they could see the signs and symptoms of suicide suicidal behavior in some people based on how a man and woman are coming in and talking to them so I think that would be a good class for any attorney to take even if it's you don't practice family law will encourage employers our resources to get involved certainly our first responders our police department sure fire departments we hold the class here once a month on safe talk at the very least please go through the safe talk clash we can hold up to fifteen here for classes chef JB what do you say I think it's a great idea you know awareness of anything related to our military service or are well beaten in civilian life is a good thing and you know I I I'd like to hand to to the media especially television they're starting to dress some of those issues and some of their shells the first time I ever heard about TV I was on CBS on seals and I'm not giving him a plug but they really address the issue of it being a real thing and open my eyes to one another group that's interested in and it may seem out of the ordinary but the NFL has been addressing this for the past two or three years right with all the concussions in that you're looking at better helmets and I know we had a player out there didn't want to give up his helmet but eventually in a war we get these injuries and we try to prevent of as much as possible but even at a early age when kids are playing football and elementary and high school and even through college there is this additive thing that comes up we had one professional wrestler for example may call him Chris Harvard because he was a Harvard graduate but he played high school football he played football at Harvard got into wrestling and one day he got kicked in the head while he was down on the mat and guess what he was laying on the floor looking up and everything went to a bar and he knew something was very wrong he couldn't picker pointed out and he only for a few more fights after that and found out that you know he had this serious issue going on with C. T. eighty of his brain degenerating disease and for our listening audience questions or comments please give us a call locally in Clark County area seven zero two two five seven five three nine six or toll free eight hundred four one four one zero five six you know you were takin RJ about that the NFL they have a concussion protocol tent now that they take a man as soon as they get hit in the ad and and evaluate him and take him out of the game and then I haven't watched the Pro Bowl in a long time this time when I was watching the polo ball I said my god they're not even tackle the numb and thrown into the ground there just if they grab a hold of them they blow the whistle on and the place that there because it's a non essential game they change all the rules and I think it's a great thing you know it's like you go to the Pro Bowl and you get hurt and and you get thrown to the ground a couple times are going to get hurt well there's a lot of there's a lot of sports that a contact sport you know the soccer these are all things that that can lead to traumatic brain injury so we have to pay attention and I think they are starting to step up and look at a quick buttons and how much safety things but not enough not enough in going back to donating your brain when you pass on how important that could be for future generations how would they again what chart with a look of project in list dot org and I wanna once again I can't emphasize the importance of the American Legion magazine and this article they did on the brain if you can read that it'll make a lot more sense to you what we're talking about because the little as I said the little things add up and this article explains how that happens and there's some examples in there too and matter of fact the person that's in charge of the of what I should say on the board of directors for the concussion legacy foundation was a farmer football player and had this disease but he also had a degree in science and that's what kept him going on in researching what was happening with his bright and he found out that you know he probably is thinking to himself I do a lot of stupid things when I was younger because I let myself get knocked around so much and is we look back in our own lives you know we've probably done a few of those things too I don't know how many motorcycle riders we got out there but I think almost everybody that prides motorcycles taken a fall at one time or another and that could be the one little thing or it might have been a major thing that adds up on this see E. T. E. type disease who knows we want done on time here are J. let's talk about a couple of events that we've got coming up ship J. B. as here we have our annual pig out coming up but before that we have well we're starting a new event this year and I don't know if he had assume in on this or not but this is called a.

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

04:28 min | 3 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"They would have invaded England for sure. Yeah. Then what I'm that next dog would be United States, and if they had nuclear weapons would we have I don't know what would have happened and doing the boys did this rate teen nineteen twenty years old. And most of them had not been battled before is that correct Colonel. This was the first time, and they were dropped out of airplanes and got on these Higgins boats and around into the waves and said, all right, you go take go, take Europe, and these these boys. Yeah. Said okay. The invasion force karnal about. I am not certain exact the exact number of the invasion force. I, you know, how many hundreds of south over one hundred and fifty thousand or considered to be part of the d day invasion, the analogy had think about twenty thousand we're airborne, and that includes the second hundred I the three twenty fifth glider infantry regiment, which is part of the eighty second. And so I think right around the the twenty thousand Mark is about what we think in airborne. The two divisions about ten thousand each largest invasion. It'll stand the test of time we could be here in one thousand years. It was still be the largest invasion and human history of any event Asian liberation the liberation of Europe from the boot of Nazi Germany and that began within what fourteen months the Nazis had fallen. Actually, it was eleven months later may eight as of nineteen forty five was VJ RV day took eleven more months. Yeah. Right. So it was a they had they had a long way to go. They had to get to get through the battle of the bulge in the winter of four. Nuts. Member McAuliffe nuts. Best down. Carney ready for the big question. Sure. Are there? Nineteen twenty twenty one year old boys today of the character. That was available in nineteen forty four. Absolutely, absolutely. We've we've got phenomenal young men women who are volunteering to join today that are doing many of the same things many of the same operations serving in the two story divisions one hundred and first and eighty second today and and doing it with distinction and never forgetting where we came from. And and going back to you know, today in those formative years for the two divisions. If you're interested in joining the army, what's the website. If you want to join the army best place to go is go army dot com. Go army dot com. That's simple, go army dot com. Real real simple and come come. Join us and take a look at what we've got to offer. And and if you want to be a paratrooper. I don't I don't want jump out of airplanes. Am I too old? Now, you can still jump out. I can put you on a ten with the Golden Knights. No don't to do that. I don't like heights. Don't like. And finally, Marie Renard. What do you have you say to the American people? I just wanted to say that Americans when they come to nominee for the DA celebrations of very always amazed and pleasantly surprised with the fantastic. Welcome with their receive not only inside Maggie. But all over UCLA American flags you see people inviting veterans on military guys since on. We Morgan is being a banquet, we have almost eleven hundred people coming there with all kinds of prestigious people, but not only and one thing which I really am very sorry about on. Maybe you could help and find the solution to that is that your television media's never report the success and the a great welcome with American military parade being applauded by sounds of people. Oil industry, responsible for the television in this country because I've done to mentally oppose it on CNN, drives me crazy. Well, grise me crazy to to the point that never watch them. But the fact is that they never report. No, no TV channel, revert Rivera doesn't shit their agenda. Don't get it. They don't like it while MAURICE. We gotta go where she had more time as her nose here from friends of American veterans, Jeff Stouffer of American Legion magazine. And Colonel you're always welcome here. I like you. Thanks and once again, Steve thanks for setting. It all up let's continue with more seventy fifth anniversary coming up News Radio seven hundred wwl demille..

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"american legion magazine" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

08:50 min | 3 years ago

"american legion magazine" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"I asked I can't do anything about it. We can't prove it one way or the other. But if you just want like to win crap don't call let somebody actually does ski or snowboard lift tickets. All right. Part of the part of the work you've done, and you've got this beautiful book the work you've done you did while in the army. Correct. The graphs. No these are being made now. The photographs are being made now at fort McClellan, Alabama. No all around the United States. Meeting with veterans of fort McClellan. Okay. So tell us about that project. Well, when I was stationed at fort McClellan, I became ill. Didn't know what happened? Over the years had lots of strange. Symptoms that doctors can't figure out. Right after within nine months of being at fort McClellan. I was diagnosed with leukemia. Thought. Wow. I must have gotten into something fort McClellan, environmental you thought maybe something's something. Yes. If I knew that this was in nineteen eighty eight and eighty nine look pretty good for having leukemia. Yeah. I had a I was I'm very fortunate I healed from it. I had a remission and m okay. The transplant that things part of the treatment. No, no NAFTA. It didn't have to. Yeah. It went away. But that that sparked something in you. Well, it I just thought all along. Hey, I got into something at fort McClellan don't know such goes life onward. I go about let's see last February a friend of mine who lives here in Santa Fe, Robin Silverman. Who's also a veteran of fort McClellan. Just so happens made a post on Facebook. That said now, I know why I've been so sick all these years. She has had a whole range of extraordinary, rare cancers and things and and posted a American Legion magazine article that said talked about fort McClellan in the extreme. Toxicity. That was there. I side of fort McClellan. Well, it was a higher house where Agent Orange or something. Well, Monsanto was right outside the gates making PCB's and dioxins who knows? And actually the town of Anniston won a multi million dollar one hundred million dollar lawsuit against Monsanto for the toxicity that happened there. The the residents that are all sick. Also, fort McClellan was a. Kind of a stockpile and testing ground of both Agent Orange a whole slew of chemical weapons and radiological weapons. They've you know, there's I don't I cannot pretend to be an expert on what's there? I don't know if anybody can. But there is the bay still open. No the base closed in nineteen ninety nine that would be one to avoid. Yeah. Town. It'd be a place to sleep. Fortunately for them. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's clean up going on. There's. Fort McClellan is being turned into residential places. Things are being built. Yeah. On my end. I just after I had the sin assault. Oh, Well, I I said oh my God. I'm not alone. And then he said, oh my God. I'm not alone. And thought about it. I mean, it really had a big impact on me to find out. Why had been so sick? And why I still have odd things go on with my health system is as whacked, and so I decided, you know, I'm I'm a photographer, and I have a skill that I would like to offer to my fellow fort McClellan veterans by going around. And I I'm not trying to be to prove anything, I document. I'm just wanting to document for history. And maybe it can also help other veterans. These these veterans who served were at fort McClellan at one point but could be anywhere in the country now. Yeah, they're all over contacting them, they contacting you ever. A website. There's some some Facebook groups that they have formed that you know, I've joined and post and let them know I'm doing this project. They right into me. I have a website FM vets dot org that this the the work so far that I've done there's a blog that I post when I do interview, and there's some contact forms on there that allow them to get in touch with me. So you're you're going to be showing some of these photographs and there's one there's a display I have this portfolio gorgeous. Yeah. At is will be out. And then there's a a framed description of the project that's up as a work in progress about the lady took a picture of with their Chihuahua with sunglass. That's Chris John Lennon glasses Kirsten. Yes. Kirsten live. Now, she lives in Phoenix. Basically, Phoenix, Arizona. Okay. And. She's she's somebody that is extraordinarily ill after being at fort McClellan. There's there's it seems she was a in the women's army corps. So back there in the. Sorry seventies. I think she was in the service at fort McClellan being trained as a whack they called them women's army corps. And it seems like that depending on the decade that they were there or or sub group of years that there are common symptoms. For instance. The Vietnam era more Agent Orange symptoms later on I don't know what symptoms, but but things that that all match each other. That's what I'm finding living in that proximity. Either down win for Monsanto military base with drums appear quater, which was the defoliant. Also or Agent Orange those kind of things radiological. Just asking for disease. Yeah. And there was a lot in the ground as a train training, which we all trained to their training or crawl around in it. Yeah. And you so crawling in the dirt. Got it. All right. So there's a lot to your photography if you'd like to go, meet Memphis and seer photography is up now. But the big party everybody's invited. Tomorrow starts at four o'clock, there'll be music by Fletcher, and John plus another and in some some or derbies, and and refreshments some hot chocolate from cacao, you go, and you can meet her, and maybe tell her your story, and, you know, look at her photographs, and hopefully people will buy your photographs you also Memphis, you do beautiful woodwork because you you met in frame, and you mill your own would and put together the frame. Do you have a beautiful one here made of walnut? Nice work. Nice. Thank you. So you're you know, it it is kind of everything from the image to the finished product. Yep. I'm an artist and beyond. You know? I'm not just a photographer. I'm an art. And and I learned learned woodworking when I first moved to Santa Fe and and would work for a little furniture shop on canyon road. And so it all kind of comes together for me as a. Complete the products. We're lucky moved here in nineteen ninety. Thank you. Thank you very much again. Your website is Memphis, barberie dot com and FM vets dot org and the Facebook pages FM, that's actually my Facebook. I don't have an F M vets Facebook page, you can find me on on Facebook under Memphis barberie. All right. Best of luck. Thank you very much. You lard the website for the gallery is edition one gallery. All spelled out. And our address is seven to eight canyon road were right behind Ronald restaurant. Exactly. All right. And if you decide to go to Woodstock, let us now, I will be our correspondent loved.

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