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"Yesterday security officers escorted lieutenant colonel Alexander women out of the White House his twin brother also won the national security staff was escorted out at the same time and then it was turned for Gordon Sunland no escort for him though ambassador Sunland issued a statement thanking the president for the opportunity to serve as US ambassador to the European Union both in minutes Tomlin provided damaging testimony about the president's pressure campaign on Ukraine last fall during the house impeachment enquiring and after their dismissals many people wonder who might be next we're joined now by amperes Whitehouse correspondent Franco Oregonians Franco thanks so much for being with us thank you remind us about the testimony how damaging well women oversaw American policy toward Ukraine on the National Security Council he actually listened in on president trump's July twenty fifth call with Ukraine president Vladimir is a Lansky he testified that he had no doubt that trump was demanding that Ukraine investigate former vice president Joe Biden in return for an oval office visit he also said that relations between the United States and Ukraine were damaged as a result and he struck quite a figure on television testifying being there in his dress uniform you know I do want to note that both then man and his brother were moved back to the army and ambassador some well son one was one of the quote three Amigos who worked with Rudy Giuliani the president's lawyer on Ukraine policy they worked outside the normal foreign policy channels was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call in the White House meeting the answer is yes he famously also said that everyone was in the loop but his comments were also used by Republicans to defend trump Sunland said at one point that trump told him that he wanted nothing from Ukraine and no quid pro quo Franco is is retaliation or the president making as is his right personnel changes well you know we saw president trump celebrating his acquittal this week he was clearly angry and even spoke about van man and his brother with disdain you know his press secretary Stephanie Grisham said people should be held accountable for doing things that hurt this country and the president I asked John Gans about this he wrote a book on the NSC called White House warriors he said it's clear trump knew people were watching had he done this last week it could have been held against him but now feels unleashed by the acquittal in one of these three people gone service was repressed so that is something that they all knew going into these jobs but it is still shocking to see sort of personal animus of personal retribution plaque out and the peers to be with these three public servants it's not a surprise that democratic leaders like house speaker Nancy Pelosi and senator Chuck Schumer our outrage they are calling this shameful and they're calling trump weak and Frank are there are other career civil servants who testified in the inquire re do they still have their jobs well there have been a flood of people who have already left they include US ambassadors who worked in Ukraine such as Maria von of H. and William Taylor but there are still seven career officials who are still in their jobs my colleagues and I we reached out to their attorneys last night and to this moment there are no changes to report
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio
"Posting an oval office meeting for a foreign leader is an official act available only to one person the president of the United States and it is an official act the president trump had already offer to preserve presidents Lynskey during their first phone call on April twenty first and in a subsequent leader letter to the Ukrainian leader multiple witnesses testified about the importance of a White House meeting for Ukraine for example Deputy Assistant Secretary George can't explain that a White House meeting was very important for Ukrainians to demonstrate the strength of their relationship with Ukraine's strongest supporter Dr Fiona hill of the National Security Council explained a White House meeting would supply the new Ukrainian government with quote the legitimacy it needed especially vis a vis the Russians and that the crane is viewed a White House meeting as a recognition of their legitimacy as a sovereign state this White House meeting would also prove to be important for three hand pick agents who president trump place in charge of U. S. Ukraine issues ambassador Sunland ambassador Volker and energy secretary Rick Perry the so called three Amigos they hope to convince president trump to hold an oval office meeting with the Lynskey during a meeting of the three Amigos on may twenty third president trump told them that Ukraine and try to take him down in twenty sixteen he then directed them talked to Rudy Giuliani about Ukraine it was immediately clear that Giuliani who is pursuing the discredit investigations in Ukraine on the president's behalf was the key to unlocking an oval office meeting for president Zelinsky Giuliani by then had said publicly that he was actively pursuing investigations president trump corruptly desired and planning a trip to Ukraine Giuliani admitted quote we're not meddling in an election were meddling in an investigation on may ten however Giuliani canceled the trip to Ukraine to dig up dirt on former vice president Biden and the twenty sixteen conspiracy theory justice presence Lynskey won elections for the presidency and parliament faced with the choice between working with Giuliani to pursue an oval office meeting understanding it meant taking part in a corrupt effort to secure the political investigations or abandoning efforts to support our Ukrainian ally the president's agents fell into line they would pursue the White House meeting and explain to Ukraine that announcements of investigations was the price of admission as ambassador Solomon made clear I know that members of this committee frequently frame these complicated issues in the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call in the White House meeting the answer is yes this quiproquo was negotiated between the president's agents Rudy Giuliani and Ukrainian officials throughout the summer of twenty nineteen in numerous telephone calls text messages in meetings including during a meeting hosted by then national security adviser John Bolton on July tenth near the end of that July tenth meeting after the cranes again raise the issue of a White House visit ambassador Simon blurted out that there would be agreement for a White House meeting once the investigations began at that point Bolton immediately Stephan and abruptly ended the meeting during a subsequent discussion that days on and was even more explicit lieutenant colonel Alex of in many a director for Europe and Ukraine on the National Security Council testified that solid began to discuss the deliverable required to get the White House meeting with someone specifically mention was investigation of the bidens this is again in that meeting in the White House with Ukrainian of Ukrainian delegation and an American delegation someone explained in that meeting had an agreement with acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney whereby presents a Lynskey would be granted the oval office meeting if he went forward with the investigations after the meeting Veneman's supervisor doctor hill reported back to Bolton who told her to tell John Eisenberg the National Security Council legal adviser that he was not part of whatever drug deals online and moving your cooking up on this she reported her concerns as did Veneman it remains unclear what action if any Bolton or Eisenberg took once they were made aware of Mulvaney and Simon's drug deal both refused to testify in our inquiry however doctor hill testified that she understood that Mr Eisenberg informed Mr simple Loni of her concerns about the drug deal if this body is serious about a fair trial one is fair to the president and to the American people we again urge you to allow the house to call both Eisenberg and Bolton as well as other key witnesses with first hand knowledge who refused to testify before the house on the orders of the president additional testimony and documents are particularly important because according to sign one everyone was in the loop when it came to the president's self serving effort in part relying on email excerpts someone explain to the present senior aides and cabinet officials knew that the White House meeting was predicated on Ukraine's announcement of the investigations beneficial to the president's political campaign hill characterize the quid pro quo so simply but it struck me one yesterday when you put up on the screen ambassador someone's emails on who was all these emails and he said these the people need to know that he was absolutely right because he was being involved in a domestic political event and we were being involved in national security foreign policy on those two things have just affects in fact presents Lynskey was being drawn into this domestic political errant he grew wary of becoming involved in another country's election and domestic affairs bill Taylor the acting US ambassador to Ukraine at the time describe a conversation he had with a senior aide to the Ukrainian leader he said also on July twentieth I had a phone conversation with Alexander done a little presidents Lansky's National City security adviser who emphasize the Prez's Lynskey did not want to be used as an instrument and a U. S. reelection campaign remember that conversation when you hear counsel say that the Ukrainians felt no pressure to be involved in the U. S. reelection campaign but that concern did not deter president trump in this conversation was someone short before shortly before the twenty fifth of July call the president made clear that he not only wanted Ukraine to do the investigations or announce them but also a White House meeting would only be scheduled if presence Lynskey confirmed these investigations as Voelker communicated to presence Lansky's top aide by text less than thirty minutes before the phone call between trump and sold in ski and again we're talking about July twenty fifth in a text thirty minutes before the trump Zielinski phone call here's what is said with Voelker texting under your market top aide to president salen ski good lunch thanks heard from White House assuming present Z. convinces Trumpy will investigate quote get to the bottom of what happened on quote in twenty sixteen we will nail down day for a visit to Washington good luck see you tomorrow Kurt well that those which can be much clearer so many presidents Z. convinces trump he will investigate get to the bottom of what happened in twenty sixteen we'll nail down a visit to Washington that's a text for thirty minutes before that call counsel for the present like you think this is just about that call you don't get to look outside the four corners of that call they don't want you look at the months that went into preparing for that call for the months of pressure that followed it but you can just look at right now what have the thirty minutes before that call in this text message heard from White House soon presence he convinces Trumpy will investigate get to the bottom what happened in twenty sixteen if you were wondering how it seems that presents a Lynskey was aware of what he was going to be asked on that call this is how you can tell he was prepped courses print and in fact to the the missing reference in the call wrecked tuberous month was a signal colonel women recognized that clearly had been prepared for that call why else would the name of this particular energy company come up in that conversation well presents Lynskey clearly got the message toward the end of the call with president trump presence Lynskey said I also want to thank you for your invitation to visit the United States specifically Washington DC on the other hand I also want to insure you wanted to assure you that we will be very serious about the case and we will work on the investigation thank you for the invitation on the other hand I want to assure you that we will be very serious about the case and we'll work on the investigation presidents Lynskey clearly understood the quid pro quo for the White House meeting on July twenty fifth but his reticence to be used as a political pawn kept president trump for moving forward with a promise to schedule a meeting and so the president and his agents pressed on in August Giuliani met with a top Ukrainian aid and made it clear that Ukraine must issue a public statement announcing investigations in order to get the White House meeting fearful of getting involved in US domestic politics and having entered office with the promise to clean up government and corruption presence Lansky and his aides preferred a generic statement about investigations but Giuliani insisted no the statement must include two specific investigations that would benefit president trump let's look at a comparison between the statement Ukrainians preferred and the one that Giuliani required so on the left and I will read in case you can't see the screens the draft the Aramark draft you cranium draft says we intend to initiate and complete a transparent and unbiased investigation of all available facts in episodes which in turn will prevent the recurrence of this problem in the future that's pretty generic but here's the Giuliani Volker song learned response this is what had to be included we intend to initiate and complete a transparent and unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes up to that point is exactly the same until you get to including those involving burgers ma and the twenty sixteen U. S. elections and it goes back to the Ukrainian draft which in turn will prevent the recurrence of this problem the future you can see in this such graphic evidence Ukrainians did not want to do this they didn't even want to mention this Julian had to insist no no no we're not gonna be satisfied with some generic statement after all I think we can see this isn't about corruption no this is about announcing investigations to damage biting and to promote this fiction about the last election so here on these tax you see the Giuliani focus on one of added these references to birth is not a thinly veiled reference to former vice president Biden and the twenty sixteen election they wish to insure the Ukrainians mentioned the sham investigations president trump required now the craze recoiled at the new statement recognizing that releasing it would run directly counter to the anti corruption platform that's Lynskey campaigned on in Windham broil them in U. S. election politics as a result so lets you didn't get is what has been he still hasn't gotten his White House meeting senators witness testimony text messages emails and a call record itself confirm a corrupt quid pro quo for the White House meeting an official act available only to the present United States in exchange for the announcement of political investigations the president is allies have offered no explanation for this effort except the president can abuses office all he likes and there's nothing you can do about can't indict him can't impeach that is because they cannot seriously dispute doesn't trump corruptly Houston the official White House visit for a foreign leader to compel the Ukrainian president into helping him cheat in the next election the White House meeting of course was not the only official act that present from condition on the announcement investigations into Biden and the conspiracy theory meant to exonerate president trump from Russians interference on his behalf in the last election in a far more draconian step as we have discussed the present with held three hundred ninety one million dollars the military aid several weeks before this phone call with president salen ski but after Giuliani was already pressing Ukrainian officials to conduct the investigations his clients sought president trump order the hold on Ukraine's military aid significantly this was after Congress had already been notified that most of it was prepared to be spent Ukraine had met all of the critical conditions for anti corruption and defense reforms in order to receive the funds we condition of on this they met the conditions the funds were ready to go at the time and even today witnesses uniformly testified that the order to hold the funding came without explanation to the foreign policy and national security officials responsible for you crime the only message from.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Who his agreement on this White House meeting was with. Let's say he said that he had an agreement with Chief-of-staff Mulvaney in return for investigations investigations. this meeting get scheduled. was he specific at that. Point later about the investigations that he was referring to the investigations. PRISMA after both meetings when you spoke to him and relayed to him. What Ambassador Sunland said Ambassador Bolton say to you? Specific instruction was that I had to go to the lawyers to John. Eisenberg our senior counsel for the National Security Council to basically say utilize Bergen busted a bulletin. Told me that I am not part of the this. Whatever drug deal that Mulvaney in sunland cooking up on a hill former top Russia official on the National Security Council giving explosive explosive testimony in the impeachment inquiry in November testifying that she was essentially witness to the quid pro quo the center of the scandal for which president trump's now been impeached in the house house? That testimony put former national security adviser John Bolton at the top of Democrats wishlist for witnesses for the Senate trial of President Trump Fiona on a hill interacted with all the players at the center of the Ukraine scandal. She was there for many of the meetings at the center of the scandal because her position top Russia officials at the White House. Just put her at the center of the drama. She ended up being at the center of the inquiry. So here's something to watch for. Nail when Fiona Hill left her job as the top Russia Russia official on the National Security Council. Last summer she was replaced in that job by Tim. Morrison seen here also giving critical testimony in the impeachment inquiry. Tim Morrison lasted less than four months at that job. He quit literally the night before he gave his first closed-door impeachment testimony he walked into that deposition and announced. Oh It's surprise. He had resigned from the White House the previous night. Well after that in November that job top Russia job on the National Security Council at the White House House went to a new guy. This guy's name is Andrew Peak. Mr Pique had been at the State Department before moving over to the White House. He has been in this job less than three months surfed. Morrison was there for less than four months but on Friday this weekend. He was reportedly escorted off the White House grounds. According to Bloomberg News Axios the first to report. NBC News has since confirmed that peak was put on indefinite administrative leave amid a security related investigation. It was expected to travel with President trump to Davos this week but not anymore not after getting frogmarched off the White House grounds. We don't have details yet as to what this is all about. But I mean this job of old jobs right. This is the top Russia post at the White House. It is now vacant for the third time in less than a year since Fiona Hill left. Watch watch this space. If past is prologue we'll find out soon enough. What is going on here? I'll be right back. Get.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"You Madam Chair. Mr Goldman my colleagues talking about the fact that the president apparently said and I quote no quid pro quo on September seventh in a call with embassador sunland. Mr Sure Goldman. Did you receive testimony about this September. Seven call yes. We receive testimony from three witnesses about it and it gets a little little complicated but that that that was a consistent. Refrain through all of the witnesses. Is that the president. Did say no quid pro. Let's try to clarify it. A little bit ambassador Sunland described that call to Mr Morrison that same day correct. That's right and Mr Morrison then reported it to ambassador Taylor correct. That's correct. Yes and both Mr Moore sent an ambassador. Taylor took notes of those discussions. They did where those notes outs produced to the committee. They were not produced to us but the witnesses said that they relied on their notes to provide their testimony that set of notes oates was blocked consistent with the presence direction. Correct and in his re citation to Mr Morrison Ambassador Sunland said that President trump trump himself brought up the words quid pro quo. That's right embassador. Sunland also said that too. Yes and Mr Goldman. What did the committee make of this? This fact well. It was quite odd that the president would volunteer in response to nothing about a quid pro. Quo that there was no quid. Pro Quo go ahead. I was just GonNa say what's what's even more important. Is that what he said. Immediately after that which is effectively conduct that amounts to a pretty create quid pro quo. He said there's no quid pro quo but you have to go to the microphone and make this announced. Let's talk about that. What did the committee make of the fact that according to embassador Taylor and Mr Morrison right after President Trump said no quid pro quo? President trump then told them Bassett or Sunland that Ukrainian presence Solanki would have to go to the microphone and announced the investigations of Vine and the two thousand sixteen election interference and that presidents and Lipsky. You should want to do that himself. That's right we had a number of different accounts of this and I think this is up on the boards. Here right I see that. Yes he ambassador. Taylor said that ambassador Mr Morrison said something similar. Their understandings of that conversation is that there was a clear directive that there was a quid pro quo fractionally from the conduct from that actions. And we've talked a lot today about the words and that pressure and trump said no pressure no quid pro quo. Oh but as an investigator is a prosecutor you need to look at the actions to understand what those words mean. And that's why this call in particular is so important so let's go further as we've discussed. Multiple individuals reacted with concern to president. Trump's call with embassador sunlen. Do you recall Mr Morrison's reaction Mr. Mr Morrison said that he was shocked. I think and thinking feeling sinking feeling correct. And then he went and then talked to the lawyers. Here's the direction of Ambassador Bolton correct and Mr Goldman Ambassador Taylor also testified that he concluded that the military aid was conditioned on Linski announcing the investigations and he testified that this was the logical crazy and wrong. Is that right that it was what Taylor testified to. Yes now my colleagues have also pointed out that on September ninth text message from sunland reflecting. The president has been crystal clear that there is no quid. Pro Quo Mr Goldman. Am I correct. That ambassador Sunland has now testified that prior prior to sending his text he himself came to believe that the aid was conditioned on the announcement of investigations. Yes Ambassador Song Island subsequent public testimony revealed at least two things that were precisely false. That were not true in that text message including that there was no quid pro quo of any it kind when he testified and we saw the video earlier that they're absolutely assuredly was as it related to the White House meeting and this September seventh call and the September nine text occurred after the press reports that is after the press reports that president trump was conditioning military aid on investigations of this political rival Zach. Correct yes and it also. This text occurred after ambassador. sunlen relayed president. Trump's message to presidents. Alinsky sqi Mr Goldman. The Investigative Committee receive any other evidence relevant to the credibility. The president's assertion that there was us no quid pro quo. We received a lot of evidence. And all of the evidence points to the fact that there was a quid pro quo. I recognize myself for five minutes. Lieutenant Colonel Kinman listened to the president's call and testified that when president trump asked Ukraine for a favor it wasn't the friendly request it was really a demand. I'm going to direct your attention to this slide about Lieutenant Colonel Vin. Men's testimony. Why did he say the president's favor was a demand he said because the power disparity between the United States as the greatest power in the in the world and Ukraine crane which is so dependent on the United States not just for the military assistance but for all of its support made such a request effectively a demand because presidents Alinsky could not rian reality? Say No am I correct that this vast power disparity exists in part because Ukraine has been then at war with Russia since Russia invaded five years ago and over. Thirteen thousand of the Ukraine. People have died is that correct yes and not only does the. US provide ten percent of their military budget but the United States is a critical ally in rallying other countries to support Ukraine rain. Europe actually gives four or five European Union gives. I think four times as much money as the United States overall to Ukraine so president trump knew that the Ukrainian president back was against the wall and presidents alinsky needed. US validation and support. Is that right now. According to the US ambassador order to the Ukraine and we have ambassador. Taylor's testimony up there. It wasn't until after ambassador. Sunland told the Ukrainians that there would be a quote. Stalemate stalemate end quote on the that's Alinsky agreed to announce the investigations that president trump was demanding. Correct that's right. Yes okay. And furthermore the committee heard testimony that the Ukrainians felt they had quote no choice but to but to comply with President. Trump's demands correct. That's right yes. Even after the aid was released in fact when asked in front of President trump in September hambur whether he felt pressured presidents Alinsky said quote. I'm sorry but I don't want to be involved to democratic open elections elections of the USA and quote is that that sounds right. If you're reading the quote yes okay now. The president and some of his defenders here have tried to excuse his misconduct conduct by pointing to statements from the Ukraine president that he was not under pressure to give in to president. Trump's demand did your investigative committees consider those statements statements by presidents Alinsky. We did and we found that. The statements of what is effectively a an extortion victim are not particularly securely relevant to the actual truth of the matter because presidents. Alinsky cannot in reality for the same reasons that he's he interpreted the request to be a demand and he can't go out and say that he did feel pressure because that would potentially upset president trump. And they're so dependent on the relationship with President trump in the United States. What one could almost say it's similar to a hostage testifying under duress? It is certainly a direct would be a good word so so when the president made these statements and up to and including today his country was still under attack by Russia. Still hadn't gotten a meeting at the White House and still still needed aid from the United States. Correct that's right and David. Holmes testified very I think persuasively about the importance of the White House meeting end of the relationship to Ukraine even after the aid was lifted including pointing. Today when President Putin and presidents Alinsky met to discuss the war in the East I saw the evidence is clear. The president trump knew. He had the power to force Ukraine's hand and took advantage of that desperation and abuse the powers of his office by using using our tax payer dollars basically to get what he wanted right. Yes and what's really important here and I think it has to be clarified. Is that the president. The evidence showed wrote that the president directly said to ambassador Sunland that there was a quid pro quo with the security assistance. And there's been some debate debate and discussion about that but that is one thing that the evidence shows based on the Morrison testimony the Taylor testimony the Sunland testimony and the texts. So that's very important to understand that whatever we want to say about hearsay or whatever that is direct evidence gentleman from Virginia Mister. Klenge Mr Cassar did the Democrats impeachment report rely on hearsay to support their assertions. Yes it did. How many times were you able to find a service based on hearsay we? We went through and counted over fifty instances of Geeky facs. Can you give us some of the examples of hearsay being relied on by Jordi to make their case. You know one one of the a lot of the information for example that Ambassador Taylor was communicating He very diligently recorded notes about what some the various officials told him. But it was about you know is one in two steps removed from the actual fact. And that's that's the problem with say it's a whisper down the lane situation and if some of the people that are doing the whisper predisposed not like president trump. Then then then what what. They're whispering down. The Lane becomes even more distorted. Did you also find instances where the Democrats report US witnesses speculations and presumptions and and the biggest one of course and this is sort of become the big daddy of the hearing his.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on Anderson Cooper 360
"I think it's poppycock and I think it is once once again An effort by the president and all of the members of the House and Senate on the Republican side to try and we've a falsehood into a truism. It was very clear what the president wanted and certainly the hearings we had. It showed how much time and energy the Trace Amigos Sunland Perry and Volker had to tap dance around owned their meetings with the president of Ukraine because this investigation was critical to them getting aid or getting a meeting at the White House. And it's very true that the president of the United States knew about the whistle blower in in August and so his lifting the hold on the aid in September was more related to the fact that there was a whistleblower complaint and that that the inspector general had identified it to the intelligence committee although he couldn't tell us what the whistleblower complaint was about. The Republican rebuttal also just completely ignores a lot of the evidence that witnesses testified to under oath It essentially I mean they could have argued. Well yes it was an ideal for the president to mentioned the Biden's in that call you. Hey you know the call wasn't great. It wasn't perfect but it's not impeachable but they just went lockstep with the president demanding that they I mean they're basically doing exactly what the president demanded Ambassador Sunland sat in that hearing room and said yes there was a quid pro quo. That was their witness the appointment by the president of Mr Sunland to his post and he saying there was a quid pro quo sunlen also said that the only thing the president is interested in is something that will benefit himself. He doesn't care about Ukraine so that's pretty pretty damning and yet the Republicans find a way to twin. Twist that and to something that is once again a falsehood and they say ah the president. Does this too if you say something false often enough it becomes true in their minds. The Republican report that it's coming out just as the Democrats mm crafts on the House. Intelligence Committee are finalizing their own report which is expected to draw probably the exact opposite conclusion. The Republicans so what are Americans who are watching this at home supposed. Who's to believe when you have two competing reports from Congress that draw completely contradictory conclusions? Well much like attorney. General bar put out his summary before the Mullahs report came out. The Republicans are putting out there rebuttal before the actual document comes out from the Intelligence Committee. It is intended intended to confuse the American public so that they throw up their hands and say I don't want to deal with this and they're effective to a certain point point but for persons who feel strongly that our democracy is at risk here. They're looking at this and realizing that this is quite dangerous. And that's why you I saw that. There was actually an increase in support for impeachment by independence after we held the hearings by the Intelligence Committee. It had all those twelve witnesses. Come before us it is. I mean it's kind of creepy. That Republicans in lockstep would and be so willing to essentially try to muddy the waters before. This committee report comes out. I mean you'd think there would be a way to I have just one Committee report that has some dissension in it without food without trying to just basically destroy sworn testimony because the Republicans aren't acting independent of the president. They are basically taking his talking points and mouthing them and much like devin nunes was trying to create some Falsehood should Bhai racing over to the White House with this information and the racing back when in fact it was at the White House. The whole time shows you that from the very beginning. This has been orchestrated by the president in the White House and they are just following orders and you may ask why are they doing it is because they care more about being reelected than they do about the state of the country make. The national security is at risk as it is now when the president can withhold aid like he did to Ukraine again doing the bidding for Russia. It's it's quite quite serious serious. The inquiry now moves from the intelligence community to the Judiciary Committee. Judiciary is very different place than Intel. The president's most frozen defenders like Congressman Collins. Louie Gohmert Matt Gaetz. Jim Jordan. They all serve on judiciary. How concerned are you about what happens there? I think what will happen. There is what happened really in the intelligence committee. You'RE GONNA have experts come forward. You'RE GONNA have constitutional scholars talk about. Ah whether or not this is an impeachable offense how you would move forward with impeachment. I mean we do have the facts in front of us. We have a whistleblower complaint that the president himself corroborated with the summary of the phone. Call that establishes there was bribery. And so at this point the Republicans will make all the noise that they are able to make but I think the facts speak for themselves and I feel that it's incumbent on us to make sure that the law is followed here and not the law of Donald Trump Carson. Spear appreciate your time. John Thank you. Thank you coming up next. Speaking of constitutional scholar perspective. From one of the nation's top lawyers reese and author of a New Book On impeaching president. His case case for impeaching. This one. You'll cat y'all joins US and later profile. The woman who spent most of her career in quite government service but says this about the president quote my heart drops to my stomach when I realized he's tweeted about me again. 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"Chris caldera who's an associate professor at the department of politics at Saint Anselm college says the Democrats certainly made their case this week on substance they are describing this very large effort to re direct policy for political ends up and are showing that they were able to observe it and the effects of it from a wide range of different vantage points but there was also this you said there needed to be a public announcement from the list if I may ask you simple question when did that happen never did never did Ohio congressman Jim Jordan and ambassador Sunland which cal Derry says was for the trump base aimed at keeping trump supporters on board shelling out there Washington
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"She served with Grayson dignity in the face of the smear campaign. Yes she did and that would happen to her was was wrong I believe she should have been able to stay post and continue to do the outstanding work and what happened to her was wrong. That's right Mr Jordan and chairman Mis- MIS- Cooper who who of why. Why did the Office of Management and budget Put a hold on the phones sir. The only information that I received was from from the Office of Management and budget that they were operating at the direction of the president and they reported that he had concerns about corruption. That is all I knew. I put that in your testimony swelled. Thank you Mr Chairman Undersecretary. Hail I WANNA go back back to your support in affirmation of Ambassador Ivanovich what I understand by way. Thank you for that you know our military leaves nobody on no soldier on the battlefield and I think those who are in leadership positions in the State Department in our intelligence community. Have that bond of loyalty to each other. And it's very reassuring that you represent that you I as I understand. It got information about her situation. In March by early March Secretary Pompeo had mentioned that sometime sometime in the fall and received a letter from a former member of Congress with complaints about the ambassador correct and that rhetoric that member Congress was congressman sessions. And did you see that. There was any basis to the claims of disloyalty. No I did not that the secretary of State all right and you visited Keiv and you discussed in fact extending ambassador. Uganda term until To remain in her post right there was a personal idea of mine. Yes I obviously. Basically a indication that you valued her continued service there and you also stated Ukrainian press that ambassador. Ivanovich represents the president of the United States here in Ukraine in America stands behind her statements. Obviously trying to give her some public support correct correct in yet weeks later. The president and Mr Giuliani unleashed would can only be characterized as an ugly smear campaign to him by a two to oust her What was your reaction to the the news articles in late March in which up Ukrainian prosecutor attack the ambassador? Well we were concerned. We put out a statement that Some of these allegations around outright fabrication as they related to the do not prosecute list and we began to discuss what we could do to deal with this matter right and then the the problems continued for embassador Yvonna Vich and as I understand it she emailed you on March twenty fourth and indicated that quote the Temple of Social Media and other criticisms were such that she felt she could no longer function unless there was a strong statement of Defence of her from the debate State Department Is that correct correct and this message. What in Secretary Pompeo was aware of her situation? Is that correct. Yes debriefed and the next day. And he's the ultimate authority who could issue that strong statement of support correct correct but he never ever did issue a statement statement right. We Didata Shoe statement at that time but in fact you inside you testified around the same time that the secretary secretary did not render assistance to long serving in highly respected ambassador. He made two phone calls out terrific. Giuliani is that right. That's correct that he has seen a record that he made those phone calls one on March twenty eight and again the next day on March twenty twenty nine father record of that right so we don't know what he said to Rudy Giuliani. We have pretty good idea what really rudy. Giuliani said to him Get rid of the Ivanovich. She was gone in the statement. Never came forward right correct and when she was recalled in wanted to find out what what happened Secretary Paige would not meet with her. I was out of the country at the time. I can't comment on that. All right. What and then Mr Bill? Who is next in line? Didn't meet with her. I don't know this came for you to give the news. It went to the deputy secretary I believe held a meeting. I was info foreign travel. At the time. Well be interesting if he could have Secretary Palm Peyot be here to tell us what is conversations sations were with Rudy Giuliani. The person who was a F- amending the discontent about an ambassador who is fighting corruption. Malania Malania Miss Cooper was able to Put all the security system funds into contract before the end of the fiscal year. Now Sir and how much was were they not able to obligate What was left on August? I believe the figure was thirty. Five million it's and we were able to actually obligate eight percents total and I think you mentioned that you're able because of legislation. Congress passed continuing resolution to do that the rent so the remainder we are in the hospice of obligation right now because of the The provisions in the continuing resolution right so buffer literally inactive Congress. You couldn't have spent all the money if we had not received the provisions in the continuing resolution We would've Obligated eight percent but not the full amount right which of course would be a violation of law into not spend money. Congress appropriated Sir. I am not a lawyer but that is my understanding shore ambassador. Hail Miss Cooper. Thank you both for being with us. Just a quick question before I get into some questions about out embassador sunland who we heard from. Today I want to ask both of you. If President Trump withheld critical military aid from from Ukraine because high ranking officials support at the president's political opponent. Would you consider sitter that an official acceptable appropriate action by the president of the United States ambassador. Hail it's not I would. I would advise scooper that does not sound appropriate ambassador hail. You testified that you were aware Erin. Basset of Saban was in involving himself in matters. That and I quote went beyond the normal wit grit of the Of An ambassador to the European Union unquote as you understood it who authorized ambassador someone to work on Ukraine. I had no first-hand knowledge of that I received a readout from a meeting that the President United States had with delegation on May twenty third in which the briefing I received anyway indicated that the president wanted the members of that delegation which included Ambassador Sunland and to carry forth the policies that were discussed in the course of that meeting so that incurred in an meeting in the Oval Office on May Twenty. Third is where you heard that information from the readout of readout from that. Yes you testified that and I quote it was clear that the members of that inaugural delegation were empowered by the president is what you testified you also said and I quote as a practical matter Volcker and ambassador son and presumably working with Taylor who would be the ones really doing the continual effort here. Did you understand that ambassador. SUNLEN had direct access us to the president. I in the few occasions in which I had conversations embassador sonnen often would let it know that he was wasn't direct contact with the president. That's all I knew. So you receive that information directly from Ambassador Sunland that he had direct contact with the president in previous occasions. Yes not not related to this particular matter. Seventy thing about embassador Solomon's role that struck you as problematic. Based on what I knew at the time am I was satisfied that this delegation was what the president wanted to have continued to pursue these policies. And I saw all that in Bastrop. Oakland who was a professional had been a foreign service officer. Ambassador of distinction and steeped in Ukrainian affairs was part of that group. So so I had no great concerns so what you knew at the time you were okay with his role but did your opinion change about his the appropriateness of his role. As I testified I was not aware of these various activities related to negotiations over investigations. Preconditions related to that. I just wasn't aware of it so I had no reason to be making any kind of judgement one way. Or the other. And you review the text messages between ambassadors. Sean Lennon Volker. I've seen some of them were reported in the media. Were you surprised by anything. In those messages that you heard report it or personally witnessed or observed. I was surprised by what I saw. In those reports in the media. I want to ensure understand your testimony ambassador. Hail you you believed ambassador. Solomon was empowered by the president. According to what you found out from the May twenty third meeting to work on Ukraine policy and you said Ed quote none of that really struck you as problematic because of the time differences. There what you knew is that correct based on what I knew. Yes okay you are the Under Secretary for Political Affairs. You testified that and that capacity you are responsible for the management of the United States bilateral relations with and I quote every country in the world that we recognized for the management of our policies towards it's those countries as well as our relationship or policies as they relate to multi lateral organisations that include US policy and relations with Ukraine rang. It does but when we have a special envoy who reports directly to the secretary related to a country or issue that special envoy. We'll take the day to day responsibilities Cranston abilities about US policy relations with the European Union. Yes I am but you were not aware fully of ambassador. Facet of Solomon's activities on behalf of president trump. That's correct Krishnamurthy. Good evening thank you so much for being here. Undersecretary Hail You and your colleagues testified that you've gathered official records at the State Department with the understanding that they would be provided to Congress. Right I was not involved in the decision making. I have no responsibilities related to gathering documents. It's I understood that it was underway and I certainly received the documents that I described earlier. I see in terms of the materials is that were collected. Do they include electronic files and e-mails for instance. I can only speak to the documents that were made available to me. And it did include females and Paper documents and paper documents would tape recordings potentially be Among the files that are gathered. I really couldn't Speculate on that. But you can't rule out that possibility I don't I don't know tape recordings but I so I can't really comment on that and are you familiar with From whom the documents have been collected like the individual custodians. I don't know that Sir You're aware that despite a duly authorized congressional subpoenas been served on the State Department we have yet to receive even a single document correct. I understand that. Yes Miss Cooper in the interagency process Did anyone and in any committee potentially bring up the lack of allied funding as a reason for why there should a hold on military assistance to Ukraine. I can only speak to the three Meanings that I attended the PCC see see DSP and then P. C.. And I have no recollection of the issue of allied burden-sharing. Coming up at that point I did provide information in my deposition about a what I thought was a completely separate query that I received in mid June From the Secretary of Defense this is front office and one of the questions there Just asked a question about the degree to which allies contributing to Ukraine security assistance. Just to be very clear. Okay but after the hold was put in place on July eighteenth. You haven't heard any concerns about a lack of allied funding As a reason for why the whole should be in place in those meetings that I attended. I did not hear that or call hearing that as a reason. The only reason that I third was the president's views on corruption no further information. Got It. Same question do you Undersecretary Hill. Could you repeat the question so I assume you didn't hear about the lack of allied funding as a as a reason for the old budding being put in place after July eighteen. No I never heard a reason for the hold a AH I. I assume neither of you heard any reason whatsoever for why the whole was in place except for the fact that Oh mb put it in place at the direction of the President Right. That's that's correct and I assume you know one of my colleagues brought up the idea that the whole was put in place to assess whether or not presence Alinsky was login. Jin I assume that was not a a reason that was offered either. No Sir. I never heard that as a reason I heard. No reason. Undersecretary Undersecretary Hill. What is the importance of a world leader having a meeting at the White House? Well really case by case but Particularly for a new leader. It's an extremely important opportunity to demonstrate to strengthen our relationship for building that relationship at a personal level leadership level to demonstrate common goals. How about in the case of presents Alinsky How important was it for him to have this meeting at the White House was president trump? Well I never talked to present Zelinski about that myself. I met him before he became president. I met with President Porsche. SHANECO two leading candidates but As a expert on these matters is it fair to say that A new world leaders such as presence Alinsky having a meeting at the White House with President trump is extremely important for his image that he projects especially toward folks like Russia well in Oval Office meetings incredibly valuable for any foreign leader..
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"From New York. This is democracy now equipped problem and as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes. We followed the the president's orders. Those are the words of US ambassador. Gordon sunland Wednesday as he told lawmakers he helped pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate trump's trump's political rival Joe Biden and his son hunter. We'll hear part of Sunland testimony and speak to Democratic presidential candidate who Leon Castro about impeachment men and last night's democratic debate in Atlanta the first Castro was excluded from the debate former vice president. Joe Biden repeatedly stumbled black mounts for me because they know me. They know who I am. Three former chairs the black caucus the only black African American woman has ever been elected to the United States Senate. A whole range of people now are the couplers. Senator Accountable Harris laughed after Biden. Apparently forgot got a US. Senator we'll hear excerpts from the debate and speak to a round table guests for shot Robinson of Color Change Ryan Grim of the intercept. Phyllis Bennis the Institute for Policy Studies and economist. Gabriel Duckman all that and more coming up welcome to democracy now democracy now dot Org the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. US ambassador. Gordon Sunland told the house impeachment inquiry Wednesday president trump directly directly pressured Ukrainian government to announce an investigation into his rival Joe Biden and son Hunter and that other senior administration officials were quote in the loop during during explosive testimony on the fifth day of public impeachment hearings. Ambassador Sunland said Vice President Mike Pence and secretary of state. Mike Pompeo were part of the effort to force Ukraine into helping trump's reelection bid sunlen testified the officials new president trump condition the release of nearly four hundred million dollars in US military military aid and the No vote office meeting with Ukrainian president. On a statement about the Biden's I know that members of this committee frequently frequently frame. These complicated issues in the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes Wednesdays. Impeachment hearings overshadowed the latest debate by candidate the dates for the two thousand twenty Democratic presidential nomination Wednesday evening ten leading candidates squared off in Atlanta Georgia discussing race. Women's rights healthcare foreign policy and climate climate change after headlines speak with Democratic presidential candidate holy on Castro about the impeachment hearings and last night's debate. We're front runner. Joe Biden repeatedly stumbled and Leeann. Castro was excluded and southern Mexico. Police and National Guard troops freed sixty two migrants Wednesday who are struggling to breathe as they attempted to break out of a locked truck. Most of the migrants were from Guatemala. They were detained and taken to local immigration jail. Police arrested the truck driver and passenger in Tucson Arizona a federal jury found humanitarian activist. Scott Warren Not guilty Wednesday on two felony charges of harboring migrants after he provided food water and shelter to a pair of men who survived a perilous journey across the Sonoran Desert Warren who's a member of the Humanitarian Attorney Group. No more deaths face up to ten years in prison at his second trial after a first trial ended in a hung jury in June Warren which charged after he gave aid to twenty the three year. Old Christiane Peres Villanova and L. saw from El Salvador and twenty year old Psychedelia today of Honduras. Scott Warren spoke outside the federal courthouse moments after his acquittal into migrants. Like who saying Dion who are truly the wind at the center of this story who must make impossible possible decisions. Many of us cannot even imagine who bear the brunt of this suffering. Our hearts are with you as we stand here. Your People's Brothers Sisters Fathers Spouses and children are in the midst of the perilous desert crossing the need for humanitarian aid continues and unfortunately the damage to land in life and the mortar region not only continues but has been ramped up way up since my arrest us to see democracy now interview with Scott Warren during our trip to the scenario in desert this summer you can go to democracy now dot org. Meanwhile a federal judge in Tucson sentenced former Morona Border Patrol Agent Matthew Bowen Wednesday to three years of supervised release an eight thousand dollar fine for intentionally running over over a Guatemalan migrant with a pickup truck in two thousand seventeen then falsifying records about the assault. The man he struck Antolin Rolando Lopez Aggie Aggie Large Survived Court Filing Show Bowen had sent a slew of racist text messages on his phone referring to immigrants as mindless murdering savage's and beaner among other insults in Syria. At least twenty two civilians were killed Wednesday as government forces backed by Russia bombed and shelled parts of. Leave the last rebel control province in Syria. The aid group known as the white helmet set a missile loaded with clusterbombs struck camp for internally displaced people among those censured were medical workers maternity hospital meanwhile Israel launched fresh airstrikes overnight on the outskirts of serious capital. Damascus Syrian state media says two civilians were killed in the bombings which were aimed at Syrian military targets. As well as buildings used to house members of Iran's puts force the attacks have bolstered all stirred fears of sparking an all out conflict between Iran and Israel. Israel's former army chief Bennigan's said Wednesday. He's failed in his attempts to form a coalition and government setting up a likely third national election in less than a year. Now the prime minister. Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party in Kansas Blue and white party won enough votes in September to claim an outright majority after an election in April also yielded no clear winner at the United Nations. The United States alone Wednesday as fourteen eighteen other members of the Security Council rebuke the trump administration's announcement it no longer considers Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank illegal under International Channel Law. This is Karen Pierce United Kingdom's ambassador to the United Nations. I'm making this statement today. On behalf of Belgium France and Germany Poland and of course United Kingdom opposition on Israeli settlement policy in the occupied Palestinian coachee including including east Jerusalem is clear remains unchanged all settlement activity is illegal under international law and did she roads viability of the two state solution and the prospects for a lasting peace has reaffirmed by UN Security Council Resolution 2334. The United Nations is this warning global fossil fuel production on track to rapidly increase global temperatures spy more than two degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels leading the planet climate catastrophe Castrophe in a new report. The U N Environment Programme found nations are planning to burn fifty percent more coal oil and gas by twenty thirty than what would be needed to keep global global temperature rise below the two degree benchmark. It's more than double. The carbon budget needed to keep global temperature rise below one point five degrees Celsius in Sydney. The Australian health officials are warning young and elderly residents and people with respiratory illness to stay indoors and avoid exercise as a thick blanket of smoke from unprecedented wildfires. Settles over the city of five million people. The out of control. Fires have raged for weeks as much of the continent is baked by a searing heat. Wave with the city of Melbourne Wednesday matching a November temperature record highs in parts of New South Wales have topped one hundred ten degrees Fahrenheit this week. More fires are raging in Victoria and Queensland Means Lands States North Dakota's Department of Environmental Quality admitted Wednesday. The amount of land fouled by an oil spill from the keystone pipeline. Last last month is nearly ten times greater than initially reported the company operating keystone. TC Energy Corp formerly known as Transcanada says over three three hundred eighty thousand gallons of crude oil spilled in a rural wetland after the pipeline ruptured. October twenty ninth. TC Energy is seeking approval to restart the oil flow through the pipeline. As early as Sunday in Haiti hundreds of protesters took to the streets of port-au-prince Wednesday in the latest demonstration. To call for the ouster. The precedent Giovanelli. MOE's not people suffering longer. We live in a place where there are no roads no water no hospitals. There's nothing everything's. The thing is blocked in this country. Were saying this is possible. That's why we're in the street. We're going to stay in the streets every day. More than forty people have been killed. In two months of the anti-government protests in in Haiti in Britain Prince Andrew said Wednesday. He'll withdraw from public duties amidst mounting public anger over his longtime friendship with the deceased serial. Sexual Predator Senator Jeffrey Epstein in a BBC interview that aired Sunday Prince Andrew denied accusations by Virginia. Roberts Jufri who says she was sexually trafficked picked by Epstein and forced to have sex with prince when she was seventeen years old. A photo released by Chew Free Shows. Prince Andrew Standing beside her with this hand around her bare stomach with epsteins.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Asking the witness if it's actually what what he meant when he said roll tape but after you testified German shift run out and give a press conference and said he gets to impeach the President States because of your testimony? And if you pull up CNN in today right now. They're banner says silent ties. Trump to withholding aid is that your testimony today missed a Master silent that you have evidence and the Donald Trump tied the investigation. Because I don't think you're saying that I've said repeatedly congressman I was presuming. I also said that president trump so no not just the president. Giuliani didn't tell you mulvaney didn't tell you nobody pump peyot didn't tell you nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations. Is that correct. I think I already testified. Answer the question. Is it trek. no-one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations. Because if your answer's Yes than the chairman's wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong no one on this planet told you that president trump was tying aid to investigations. Yes or no. Yes so you really have no testimony today that ties president trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations. Other than my own presumption which is nothing. I mean that's what I noticed it. So you know what hearsay evidence is ambassador here says when I testify what someone else told me what made up testimony is this made up testimonies. When I presume it I mean you're just assuming all of these things and then you're giving them the evidence that they're running out of doing press conferences and CNN's the headline is saying that you're saying the president should be impeached because he tied aid to investigations? And you don't know that correct. I never said the President United States should be impeached beached. Nope but you did. You have left people with the confusing impression that you were giving testimony that you did. Not You cannot impeach a president based on hearsay you. You can't impeach a president based on presumptions by the way I want to also play Jim Jordan takedown who just says wait a second. When did this alleged meeting happened and silane laughs? Because does none of the accusations actually played itself out play. Jim Jordan ambassador. When did it happen? When did what happened the announcement? When did presents Lindsey announced that the investigation is going to happen on page fourteen? You said this was there a quid pro quo. Today's your opening statement as I testified previously with with regard to acquire requested White House. Call White House meeting. The answer is yes that they needed to be public statement from presents. Alinsky when the chairman ask you about the security assistance dollars dollars you said there needed to be a public announcement from Dolinsky. So I'm asking you a simple question. When did that happen? Never did never did they got the call July twenty if if they got the meaning not in the White House but in New York on September twenty fifth. They got the money on September eleventh when the meeting happened in never did. You don't know who's was in the meeting which meeting referring to meet. That never happened. who was in it you know how people do the House Alinsky announced it? Did He tweet it to do a press statement. Did he do a press conference that happened. I mean you got all three of them wrong. They get the call they get the meeting. They get the money. It's not two plus two. It's over three. I've never seen anything like this. So let's just take a step back and kind of summarize. All this ambassador Sunland was trying to save is dairy air because he had incomplete testimony previously. But let's be very very specific. President trump had his lawyer Rudy. Giuliani trying to look out for his best interests during the Muller investigation while a million ton of bricks are being thrown thrown at president trump rudy. Giuliani was trying to root out. Who actually might have been behind this from its original intent? None of that actually gets discussed. But here's the thing. The aid was released leased to Ukraine. The meeting actually never happened in the Oval Office. The press release never actually happened. That was being put in question and most importantly and most no specifically exoneration happened today. Yes that's right. President trump was exonerated. Ambassador Sunlen testified the three most important words that the media will not cover. I want nothing. I want nothing play tape of the United States today addressing the media media. I'm going to go very quickly. Just a quick comment on what's going on in terms of testimony with Ambassador Sunland at I just notice notice one thing and I would say that means at all over. What do you want from you phrase? He asks flee screaming. Why do you want from Ukraine? I keep hearing all these different ideas and series business ambassador. soldering speaking to me just happened to television. What do you want from Ukraine? I gave very well these different ideas and theories. What are you what are you want? It was a very short and abrupt conversation that he had with the Bay said He. He was not in a good mood. I'm always a good mood. I don't know what that is. He's just said now he's talking. About what my response. So he's going what do you want. What do you WanNa hear all these years? What are you what right and now? Here's my response that he gave just K- ready. You have two cameras rolling. I want nothing. That's what I want from you great. That's what I said. I want nothing. You said it twice so he goes. He asked me the question. Why do you keep hearing all these things? What do you want he finally gets me? I don't know him very well. I have not spoken to him. That this is not a man I know well seems like a nice guy though but I don't know well. It was with other candidates actually supported other candidates not saving late but he's not respond now now. If you weren't fake news you've covered properly. I say your best response. I want nothing I want. Nothing I want no quid pro quo. Hells Dolinsky president. Ulysses thing so his by answer I want nothing. I want. Want nothing I want no quid. Pro Quo sells delicious to do. The right thing he says is the final word from the president of the United States. I want nothing. Thank you have a good time. That was the president saying what ambassador. Senator sunlen testified this should invalidate the entire impeachment hearing. Could you imagine if Richard Nixon if there were tapes of Richard Nixon saying. Don't cover it up. Stop covering it up. I want nothing. I want you to do nothing. I want you to do. Nothing could you imagine. If that sworn testimony existed or those tapes existed assisted. Richard Nixon would not have resigned the fact that president trump has ambassador Sunland who also had some not so good things to say about him saying that president trump was not in the best mood saying I want nothing. I should have a shirt that says I want nothing that should invalidate the entire impeachment testimony kill shot and if testimony mic drop homerun. Walk off homer game winning field goal and the game. Close the business. Whatever sort of INNUENDO YOU WANNA use? It's over New Year's Eve. I don't care whatever it's done. Phoenix finished over and the song. The impeachment should be done. I want nothing now. If sunlen testified that president trump said. I'm really upset with you. I told you I wanted this. I I told you I wanted that. Click president trump. I want nothing this is such a sham and it's a disgrace to our country but let me tell you why this is is happening but just hold on one second all right. We got a huge week. Sports ahead everybody and of course we're GONNA talk about football of course the NBA has some key matchups. You've got Boston at Clippers. Houston Denver San Antonio Philadelphia again. I'm a fan of basketball but I don't think November basketball is exactly as entertaining as this college football brought by our great friends at online dot. Ag So if you guys disagree with anything. I'm going to say do something about it. Be a person of action and go to bed online dot. Ag Use was that Promo Code podcast one so first and foremost and most importantly in college football because college football is a greater sport than NFL just as there is no argument. This is a rational thought. Brought to you on the Charlie Kirk Show Irrefutable Truth Organ Arizona State. I might go to that game. I'm not gonNA tell you if I will or not because there might be some not some good people that come up and try to find me but or going to Arizona. 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Seventeen ten win against Philadelphia but I do like the Patriots. Green Bay San Francisco. Jimmy Garoppolo is getting getting all this negative press despite only having one loss. Jimmy is great. Jimmy G. Green Bay's in first place in the NFC north. I think they have to losses. They're doing quite well. I like San Francisco to win seahawks at the Eagles. I like the seahawks Ravens at the rams. I like the Ravens Ravens. My dark horse to win the Super Bowl. If you disagree do something about it go to bed online dot. Ag Promo Code podcast. One again it's about online at ag for your fifty percents bonus. Use that Promo Code. podcast one go ducks. This is why this is happening. A New Marquette Law Wisconsin poll poll shows that trump now leads top Democrats in twenty twenty match ups. WHOA trump again spied up three trumpets sanders up three trump against warren up five trump against Buddha? The judge up nine poor little judge..
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO
"Ambassador Sunland said he became a reluctance messenger this summer relaying an ultimatum on the president's behalf you informed Mr your mock of that they would need to invest announces investigations in order to get the A. did you not I likely did someone said he came to understand that Ukraine's new president would not get a coveted White House meeting or crucial military aid unless he announced an investigation into berets ma the company that employed the son of former vice president Joe Biden CBS is Nancy corners there's another Democrats debate getting underway right now in Atlanta CBS of Peter king is there ten candidates a past complicated thresholds of both pulling and financial support to be here Joe Biden Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders a leading the latest CBS news battleground tracker poll be booted judges behind the but gaining support in the early states former Baltimore mayor Catherine Pugh is at the business end of an eleven count federal indictment alleging she into city workers arrange fraudulent sales of her self publish children's books to schools libraries and a medical system all too in richer self and promote her political career FBI special agent in charge Jennifer Boone statement announced today is an example of what happens when a public servant engages in a corrupt behavior seeking cursed personal gain through fraud while occupying a position of public trust if convicted he faces up to twenty years in prison on each wire fraud count and five years for each tax evasion counts but a hundred thousand or rather a hundred twenty thousand people in northern California lost power today prescribed outages by Pacific gas and electric due to wildfire conditions that was less than a third of those who received warnings yesterday KCBS reporter Jeffrey shop so the County Board of supervisors president David rabbit says no matter the numbers it.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on WJR 760
"Sixty W. J. R. ambassador Sunland whose testimony is wrapping up in Washington might have wrapped up by now said I never heard anyone advocate for holding Ukrainian eight and that's it and I think he said he had a conversation with the president and and then he asked the president what do you want from the Ukraine the president said nothing get the answers that whole question Hey I want to send a special thank you to one of my favorite people in the in the state of Michigan any Rommel who who runs go Great Lakes that's the the arm that the publicized of the great things that go on in the bay region of Bay City Saginaw Frankenmuth and the like as she lives in Frankenmuth and she knows of my love for the for the great food up there and she sent along a whole basket of food now let me just set this up for a moment for someone to tell me what I should make of this now if I were Adam Schiff I think we could have some kind of hearing about this and Thomas who produces Paul show in the morning yes okay you know her you've heard of her yes she comes up to me this morning and she says Frank I'm going to do something that's going to make you Love Me even more than you do now and I said and what might that be and she hands me a bag of Xander's noodles no yeah and then the next thing I know why she's acting like she was doing this out of the goodness or heard the next thing I know Chris slip for our county executive walks in and he's got a basket of goodies goodies for many rubble including noodles and any says Frank thank you for supporting the Great Lakes bay region and your veterans day broadcast of the Michigan heroes museum it's an honor to call you a friend we look forward to many more years the go great team so there you have it one moment while some so no matter what and Thomas did to try to change this there are two and you know right if it's any role who's been handed all longhand tries to claim the credit for it was a hand not end right was any any nine AM exactly right exactly so in Thomas thank you for not keeping those bills but okay let's get some phone calls in before we have to call in the daytime was too fast on the show it's all I can tell you Georgian Detroit next up thank you for holding Sir sorry to keep you on hold you're on the air now that's right thanks thanks Frank I'm with Paul W. this morning was saying what are these guys making these open statements for the making a speech in Albany tubs of these guys going to testify they keep coming back and testified contradicting themselves this guy said we didn't want to work with Judy but that he said with the Julie ID but he said we had no problem with you that that we did have a problem with now here's the thing the Giuliani demand a quid pro Joe of either president Lynskey you'll announce in six hours that you're investigating twenty sixteen election the any interference and Joe and hunter Biden otherwise United States won't give you anything I mean that that that was that's the poster child for the mob like shake down that that Joe pulled but that's alright but now we know Frank how you can get out of criminal investigation if you commit a crime just run for president and that no one can invest investigate you at least for awhile hold on hold on hold on let's let's back up a minute who even that cover who are Yemen that common it resident you can investigate your body is running for president there's another one that's running for president what why doesn't he have a full card watch the criminal immunity president trump how can you beat him through all this he's running for president you're interfering with election affect your interfering with two elections you trying to interfere with the twenty sixteen election after the fact and you try and interfere with the twenty twenty election that's what this is all about in this case this hero stuff I love the military but I'm sorry we had a hero called Benedict Arnold who who made Major General personally appointed by George Washington the commander in chief before he was president the commanding general of the revolutionary armed forces he won the first battle that the revolution there as a colonel at the Ticonderoga he served honorably for six years that he betrayed us but we can't we can't discount those six years we should have a statue of the six years he was a hero.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio
"Tonight taking it from the top the United States Ambassador to the EU tells the impeachment inquiry. That White House pressure on Ukraine was a clear quid pro quo and all involved followed the president's orders. The wind out of a sales. A Maltese businessman is arrested while trying to escape on his luxury yacht August hopes his answers bring police step closer to solving her sister's murder coming to the aid of children's aid. Toronto's Child Welfare Agency partners with the national national charity to raise money for a new project. It will focus on keeping kids with their families on just 'cause Don trump pardons a US veteran of war crimes on snap Ghanistan a former army medic served in the same place says that's a serious miscarriage of justice. It was a big fan and so was she but now that the Ontario government has cancelled hundreds of green energy projects. Our guest will lose the wind turbine on her property and clean get-away a mechanical article engineers new nonstick spray. Mix toilet boom or slippery stopping stuff from sticking save space. Save US water as it happens. The Wednesday edition Talk Radio that engages anti-smoker campaign. The Gordon saw inland. Is the person person everyone in Washington has been waiting to hear from. You probably heard his name come up time and again throughout the impeachment inquiry. He's a key figure in the investigation. He was a hotel magnate and a major donor to trump's inaugural committee before he became the envoy to the European Union last year during testimony. Today Ambassador Sunland was clear he said said that. If Ukrainian President Vladimir Linski wanted a meeting with Mr Trump you would have to publicly announce investigations including one and Theresa the company where Joe Burdensome Hunter Sat on the board. Here's a master sunland speaking about that and president. Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. I know that members of this committee frequently frame. These complicated issues in the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes. Mr Giuliani Johny conveyed to secretary. Perry Ambassador Volker and others that president trump wanted a public statement from presidents Alinsky committing committing to investigations of Berea. SMA and the two thousand sixteen election Mr Giuliani expressed those requests directly to the Ukrainians. and Mr Giuliani also expressed those requests directly to us we all understood that these prerequisites for the White House call and and the right White House meeting reflected president trump's desires and requirements throughout the day. Republicans on the House Committee attempted to poke holes in a master Solomon's testimony. Here's Republican John Radcliffe questioning ambassador ambassador. Sunland I'm going to try and quickly move to summarize is all of your direct communications with president trump as it relates to this inquiry. And of course you can correct me if I get it wrong on May twenty third. You had a group a meeting that included a what you call vanilla request about ending corruption involving Ukrainian oligarchs correct correct on July. I twenty fifth. You called president trump. Say you're on your way to Ukraine but nothing of substance occurred on that call correct correct on July twenty six. You had a five minute call a restaurant restaurant that you didn't originally remember because it according to your state and this morning quote did not strike me as significant at the time quote but once refreshed recalled that the primary Mary purpose was a rapper named Asep Rocky correct correct and on September ninth and most importantly reading from your deposition you call president trump to ask him. What do you want from Ukraine? He responded I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I once Alinsky to do the right thing. I want him to do you. What he ran on? What he ran on was fighting corruption? Correct correct and then lastly on October second in random in person meeting that you had uneventful finish president. He ran into president trump and advised him that you've been called to testify before Congress and he said to you good. Go tell the truth. That's correct all right. And that is the entirety of your recollection of your direct communications with President Trump. About these matters. I may have had another caller Paul or meeting or two I again. I wish Mr Cliff I had the record understand but this what you recall this. Okay Ambassador Gordon Sunlen speaking today during hearing in Washington Matthew Miller is MSNBC's justice and security analyst and a former chief spokesperson for the US. Department of Justice. Reach Mr Miller in Washington Matthew. Is it fair to say that Ambassador Song lend is a very different kind of witness than we've seen so far he is a supporter of Donald. Donald trump he was appointed by him. He is not what Republicans would call a member of the deep state. I think that's exactly right. Unlike some of the other witnesses who have come forward he's not a career career public servant. He's not someone who served for years and years and the State Department or the Department of Defense. He is a political appointee. He has his job because he gave a million dollars the president's inaugural fund. He's a lifelong Republican and someone who in his first appearance before the committee tried very hard to protect. The president tried so hard that some members of the committee accused him of perjuring himself. And you saw a very different tune from him on his in his appearance today. What does that does that different tune that he was singing today? I I think there are two things. He said that we're very Damning to the president today one was he made clear that there was a quid pro quo and he also made clear that the circle of people who knew about this attempt to influence Ukrainian government to open investigations was much broader than we've heard from previous witnesses. He made clear that it wasn't just the president and Rudy Giuliani. But also the president's chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence and the Secretary of state. Mike pompeo raising questions about how far the scandal extends beyond even the president himself that we heard. Ah The opening from representative John Ratcliffe Republican who go Soo. What was on the record? What what ambassadors on actually heard a AH Vanilla request for an investigation Mr Trump said? I don't want anything Go Tell Congress the truth and he points would miss rackliff points out. Does that different when people can look at the at the same information had come to different conclusions about really what Mr Trump's role in all this was is that fair. I I really don't think that exchange made the point Congressman Ratcliffe was hoping it would number one. Those are a lot of interaction for an ambassador to have with the president. I never talked regularly with the president. Other let's say you know big diplomatic events where they're kind of brief thirty second interactions. That was a high number of interactions number two. We know that according to ambassador silence testimony testimony the way the president was was influencing the operation of the government was not just through direct interactions with online and others. But he told them at the beginning. I want you to talk to rudy. And then Rudy would give them instructions. Rudy would tell them. These are the two things I want. I want these investigations and then the third point I think about that exchange changed. The congressman mentioned that final conversation. He has the final conversations before the forty the president tells them to go up until the truth where he talks to the president. The president tells him I want nothing no quid pro quo. The president only said that after he knew he had basically been caught according to to chairmanship. And what the chairman by that the whistleblower complaint had already been filed. The fact of its existence had already been told to the hill so congressman Schiff knew about it and was not was was informing the American public public by that point. The president knew that people had figured out what he was doing and he hadn't sent it to try to clean up after himself and tell us on the no quid pro quo but even when he did that he's still told him. I want these investigations done. How closely did this testimony today tie this whole issue of asking Ukraine to have investigations? Sounds that would have helped Mr trump politically. How how close does it tie it to actually his instructions and him being directly involved in it? I think it puts it right in his lap. Look we we already basically knew from the beginning of this investigation that the president was directly involved. Because the minute they released that that partial transcript you had the president and his own words kind of laying out the most damning Possible affects them directly demand investigation not even into Barista of Ukrainian company but into into Joe Biden himself so the president that already in his own words In a document released by the White House was put right in the center of the scandal. And today you had Gordon and making clear that it was the president through through Rudy Giuliani. Who was saying there? You know for the Ukrainians to get this meeting at the White House. They have to open these investigations. Now Gordon saw wasn't able to directly testified that the the president told him they won't get their aid. They won't get this four hundred million dollars in. Let's open the investigation. But he laid out a pre circumstantial case that by the by by September timber. It was clear to him. But that wasn't the case that because of the reason the president withholding that aid is he wanted those investigations plots but this is Republicans. Keep coming back because it is if anything circumstantial and there is no smoking gun because they point out the aid did flow to Ukraine and there were no investigations. Well but the problem with that is it ignored all of the rest of the evidence. The aid is only one piece of the puzzle. The demand for an investigation into the president's political opponents is in itself misconduct. This conduct is in itself arguably impeachable offense. There's another quid pro quo. That basically is no longer disputed the fact that the president said you cannot get this meeting at the White House unless you open an investigation. The only piece of the puzzle that still left is circumstantial is withholding evade. And you. Now Have Gordon coming in saying it was pretty clear to him. He's the person more than anyone else. It was pretty clear him. So yes that pieces circumstantial. But if they're gonNA hang their defense on that they have to ignore every other fact that can be incredibly credibly damning for the president's action so if this did move the dial and and this is this is how many people are saying. This was absolutely crucial. What happened today with? Listen Bastiat Sunland but does it do you see any more. Republicans being persuaded. UC anymore the public being persuaded. It's very hard to tell. Public opinion has moved somewhat at the beginning of this crisis You know that you felt polling. You know around whether the president should be impeached moved from office. Removed from office moved from somewhere in the high thirties to around fifty percent. Where around half the country now says he should be removed from office and it's kind of sat there stubbornly for a few weeks? I think it's too early to say whether public opinion will move and that's the Republicans I think they will largely follow public opinion. they're not gonNA move Just because they think it's the right thing to do to remove the president from office. They've made pretty clear they're gonNA they're gonNA defend him until they can't anymore and so. I think the question is really will. These hearings have an impact on public opinion. And I think it's too early to answer that question all right. We'll be following this story. Matthew thank you so much thank you that was the former chief spokesperson for the US Department of Justice. Matthew Miller in Washington doc.
Impeachment hearings: Tuesday was a disaster for Republicans
"Impeachment proceedings against President trump were a doubleheader today with hearings both this morning starting at nine. Am Eastern and men another marathon hearing this afternoon starting at three o'clock eastern extending well into the evening tonight ending less than a half an hour ago. Now the the second hearing today the afternoon and evening session that just ended was tactically a first though because the two witnesses were called specifically in the impeachment hearing this afternoon were the first witnesses who were specifically requested by the Republicans on the committee. Now we don't know exactly why hi. The Republicans on the committee were so eager to call these particular witnesses today. It kind of seems clear from how it went with them today that the Democrats would have been just as is happy to call them to if the Republicans hadn't but this is specifically who the Republicans wanted and it seems like it's probably Lee not the way they had wanted it to go does not credible to me. That former vice president biden would have been influenced in any way by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as vice president. I don't think that raising twenty sixteen elections or vice president and Biden or these these things I consider to be conspiracy theories that have been circulated by the Ukrainians particularly the former prosecutor. General are are we there not things that we should be pursuing as part of our national security strategy with Ukraine at the one in person meeting I had with Mayor Giuliani on July. Nineteenth mayor. Giuliani raised and I rejected the conspiracy. Theory that Vice President Biden would have been influenced in his duties as vice president by money. Money paid to his son as previously testified. I have known vice. President Biden for twenty. Four years is an honorable man and I hold them in the highest regard embassador Kurt Volker who resigned as U S envoy to Ukraine when the impeachment scandal broke. Open a few weeks ago. He was asked to testify testify before these proceedings. He accepted that invitation to testify and he resigned his job What that means though? Because he was the first witness they asked to come in and give a closed-door deposition that tells you that the Democratic leadership of the impeachment committees were happy to hear from Ambassador Volker as a witness in the first instance. I'm I can surmise. That the Democratic leadership of those committees would have been happy calling him again for this public testimony of the type that he went through today that said he was specifically requested Republican witness the Republicans on the committee specifically wanted Ambassador Volker and to Morrison who he testified alongside alongside today. I'm not exactly sure why. The Republican members of the committee were so psyched to have him there today specifically as their witness but there he was it was ambassador Volker and as I mentioned a senior national security official who also recently resigned his post. The man he testified alongside is named Tim Morrison Morrison Morrison on Volcker are the witnesses the Republicans wanted to make sure got their turn before the cameras in these televised hearings but whatever the Republicans motivation was for that honestly. Their testimony wasn't awesome for the President's defense. Not at all quite the contrary now after this larger meeting with the vice president pence presidents Alinsky testified at your deposition that you saw ambassador John Lennon immediately. Go over and pull Andre Earmark aside and have a conversation as president Zone Linski left the room vice president pence left the room and in sort of an anteroom Bashur Samland and presidential adviser. Your had this discussion. Yes Bachelor Sunland Sadie. Tell you that he told Mr Yearbook that the Ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor. Ask You your general Make a statement with respect to the investigations as a condition of having the eight lifted. Now did you tell Ambassador Bolton about this conversation version as well. I reached out to him as well and requested his availability for a secure phone call and what was his response when you explain to him what ambassador Sunland had said. Tell the lawyers now. A few days later on September seventh you spoke again to Ambassador Sunland. Who told you that he had just gotten off the phone with President? Trump isn't that right. That sounds great. Yes what did ambassador Sunlen tell you that. President Trump said to him. If I were called this conversation correctly this was where On related that there was no quid pro quo by presence. Alinsky had to make the statement and that he had to wants wants to do it year by that point. Did you understand that. The statement related to the Biden in a two thousand sixteen investigations. I did yes. And that was a a essentially a condition for the security assistance to be released. I I understood that. That's what embassador sauna believed after speaking with President Trump. That's what he represented. Did you tell Ambassador Bolton about this conversation as well I did. Yes and what did he say to you. He said to tell the lawyers once again what I call them the second time for something like this once again. He told me tell the lawyers do. Do we need a theme song for today. How about tell the lawyers fire up the embroidery hoops day? Three three of the trump impeachment hearings had provided us with yet another set of words to live by words to stitch onto a pillow. At least words words to watch out for in testimony about how the president's own appointees talk to each other when they learned about what the president had been cooking up behind closed doors to don't even tell me talk to the lawyers dude. Are you calling me about another one of these. I said talk to the lawyers. Do you have the lawyer so number. Can you get to the lawyer's office.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio
"Tonight taking it from the top the United States Ambassador to the EU tells the impeachment inquiry. That White House pressure on Ukraine was a clear quid pro quo and all involved followed the president's orders. The wind out of a sales. A Maltese businessman is arrested while trying to escape on his luxury yacht August hopes his answers bring police step closer to solving her sister's murder coming to the aid of children's aid. Toronto's Child Welfare Agency partners with the national national charity to raise money for a new project. It will focus on keeping kids with their families on just 'cause Don trump pardons a US veteran of war crimes on snap Ghanistan a former army medic served in the same place says that's a serious miscarriage of justice. It was a big fan and so was she but now that the Ontario government has cancelled hundreds of green energy projects. Our guest will lose the wind turbine on her property and clean get-away a mechanical article engineers new nonstick spray. Mix toilet boom or slippery stopping stuff from sticking save space. Save US water as it happens. The Wednesday edition Talk Radio that engages anti-smoker campaign. The Gordon saw inland. Is the person person everyone in Washington has been waiting to hear from. You probably heard his name come up time and again throughout the impeachment inquiry. He's a key figure in the investigation. He was a hotel magnate and a major donor to trump's inaugural committee before he became the envoy to the European Union last year during testimony. Today Ambassador Sunland was clear he said said that. If Ukrainian President Vladimir Linski wanted a meeting with Mr Trump you would have to publicly announce investigations including one and Theresa the company where Joe Burdensome Hunter Sat on the board. Here's a master sunland speaking about that and president. Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. I know that members of this committee frequently frame. These complicated issues in the form of a simple question was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes. Mr Giuliani Johny conveyed to secretary. Perry Ambassador Volker and others that president trump wanted a public statement from presidents Alinsky committing committing to investigations of Berea. SMA and the two thousand sixteen election Mr Giuliani expressed those requests directly to the Ukrainians. and Mr Giuliani also expressed those requests directly to us we all understood that these prerequisites for the White House call and and the right White House meeting reflected president trump's desires and requirements throughout the day. Republicans on the House Committee attempted to poke holes in a master Solomon's testimony. Here's Republican John Radcliffe questioning Ambassador Song Ambassador Sunland. I'm going to try and quickly move to summarize is all of your direct communications with president trump as it relates to this inquiry. And of course you can correct me if I get it wrong on May twenty third. You had a group meeting that included a what you call vanilla request about ending corruption involving Ukrainian oligarchs correct correct on July. I twenty fifth. You called president trump. Say you're on your way to Ukraine but nothing of substance occurred on that call correct correct on July twenty six. You had a five minute call a restaurant restaurant that you didn't originally remember because it according to your state and this morning quote did not strike me as significant at the time quote but once refreshed recalled that the primary Mary purpose was a rapper named Asep Rocky correct correct and on September ninth and most importantly reading from your deposition you call president trump to ask him. What do you want from Ukraine? He responded I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I once Alinsky to do the right thing. I want him to do you. What he ran on? What he ran on was fighting corruption? Correct correct and then lastly on October second in random in person meeting that you had in an event for the Finnish president he ran into president trump and advised him that you've been called to testify before Congress and he said to you good. Go tell the truth. That's correct all right. And that is the entirety of your recollection of your direct communications with President Trump. About these matters. I may have had another caller Paul or meeting or two I again. I wish Mr Cliff I had the record understand but this what you recall this. Okay Ambassador Gordon Sunlen speaking today during hearing in Washington Matthew Miller is MSNBC's justice and security analyst and a former chief spokesperson for the US. Department of Justice. Reach Mr Miller in Washington Matthew. Is it fair to say that Ambassador Song lend is a very different kind of witness than we've seen so far he is a supporter of Donald. Donald trump he was appointed by him. He is not what Republicans would call a member of the deep state. I think that's exactly right. Unlike some of the other witnesses who have come forward he's not a career career public servant. He's not someone who served for years and years and the State Department or the Department of Defense. He is a political appointee. He has his job because he gave a million dollars the president's inaugural fund. He's a lifelong Republican and someone who in his first appearance before the committee tried very hard to protect. The president tried so hard that some members of the committee accused him of perjuring himself. And you saw a very different tune from him on his in his appearance today. What does that does that different tune that he was singing today? I think there are two things. He said that we're very Damning to the president today one was he made clear that there was a quid pro quo and he also made clear that the circle of people who knew about this attempt to influence Ukrainian government to open investigations was much broader than we've heard from previous witnesses. He made clear that it wasn't just the president and Rudy Giuliani. But also the president's chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence and the Secretary of state. Mike pompeo raising questions about how far the scandal extends beyond even the president himself that we heard. Ah The opening from representative John Ratcliffe Republican who go Soo. What was on the record? What what ambassadors online actually heard a AH Vanilla request for an investigation Mr Trump said? I don't want anything Go Tell Congress the truth and he points points out. Does that different when people can look at the at the same information had come to different conclusions about really what Mr Trump's role in all this was is that fair. I I really don't think that exchange made the point Congressman Ratcliffe was hoping it would number one. Those are a lot of interaction for an ambassador to have with the president. I never talked regularly with the president. Other let's say you know big diplomatic events where they're kind of brief thirty second interactions. That was a high number of interactions number two. We know that according to ambassador silence testimony testimony the way the president was was influencing the operation of the government was not just through direct interactions with online and others. But he told them at the beginning. I want you to talk to rudy. And then Rudy would give them instructions. Rudy would tell them. These are the two things I want. I want these investigations and then the third point I think about that exchange changed. The congressman mentioned that final conversation. He has the final conversations before the for the president tells them to go up until the truth where he talks to the president the president tells him I want nothing no quid pro quo. The president only said that after he knew he had basically been caught according to to chairmanship. And what the chairman by that the whistleblower complaint had already been filed. The fact of its existence had already been told to the hill so congressman Schiff knew about it and was not was was informing the American public public by that point. The president knew that people had figured out what he was doing and he hadn't sent it to try to clean up after himself and tell us on no quid pro quo. But even when he did that he's still told him. I want these investigations done. How closely did this testimony today tie this whole issue of asking Ukraine to have investigations? Sounds that would have helped Mr trump politically. How how close does it tie it to actually his instructions and him being directly involved in it? I think it puts it right in his lap. Look we we already basically knew from the beginning of this investigation that the president was directly involved. Because the minute they released that that partial transcript you had the president and his own words kind of laying out the most damning Possible that affects. You haven't directly demand investigation not even into Barista of Ukrainian company but into into Joe Biden himself so the president that already in his own words In a document released by the White House was put right in the center of the scandal. And today you had Gordon and making clear that it was the president through through Rudy Giuliani. Who was saying there? You know for the Ukrainians to get this meeting at the White House. They have to open these investigations. Now Gordon saw wasn't able to directly testified that the the president told him they won't get their aid. They won't get this four hundred million dollars in. Let's open the investigation. But he laid out a pre circumstantial case that by the by by September timber. It was clear to him. But that wasn't the case that because of the reason the president withholding that aid is he wanted those investigations plots but this is Republicans. Keep coming back because it is if anything circumstantial and there is no smoking gun because they point out the aid did flow to Ukraine and there were no investigations. Well but the problem with that is it ignored all of the rest of the evidence. The aid is only one piece of the puzzle. The demand for an investigation into the president's political opponents is in itself misconduct. This conduct is in itself arguably impeachable offense. There's another quid pro quo. That basically is no longer disputed the fact that the president said you cannot get this meeting at the White House unless you open investigation. The only piece of the puzzle that still left is circumstantial is withholding evade. And you. Now Have Gordon coming in saying it was pretty clear to him. He's the person more than anyone else. It was pretty clear him. So yes that pieces circumstantial. But if they're gonNA hang their defense on that they have to ignore every other fact that can be incredibly credibly damning for the president's action so if this did move the dial and and this is this is how many people are saying. This was absolutely crucial. What happened today with? Listen Bastiat Sunland but does it do you see any more. Republicans being persuaded. UC anymore the public being persuaded. It's very hard to tell. Public opinion has moved somewhat at the beginning of this crisis You know that you felt polling. You know around whether the president should be impeached moved from office. Removed from office moved from somewhere in the high thirties to around fifty percent. Where around half the country now says he should be removed from office and it's kind of sat there stubbornly for a few weeks? I think it's too early to say whether public opinion will move and that's the Republicans I think they will largely follow public opinion. they're not gonNA move Just because they think it's the right thing to do to remove the president from office. They've made pretty clear they're gonNA they're gonNA defend him until they can't anymore and so. I think the question is really will. These hearings have an impact on public opinion. And I think it's too early to answer that question all right. We'll be following this story. Matthew thank you so much thank you that was the former chief spokesperson for the US Department of Justice. Matthew Miller in Washington doc.
Impeachment: Alexander Vindman alarmed by Trump's 'improper' Ukraine call
"More testimony today even more tomorrow lieutenant colonel Alexander vitamin a decorated Iraq war vet who was on the July phone call president trump had with Ukraine's leader told Congress he was alarmed by what transpired in that call as correspondent Nancy Cordes reports the career army official told lawmakers he had the impression that in order to get a White House meeting president the Lynskey would have to deliver the investigations against the bite in his impression was confirmed he says at a White House meeting with a Ukrainian delegation where Ford in silence the U. S. ambassador to the U. issued an ultimatum he referred to specific investigations that Ukrainians would have to deliver in order to get the these meetings what an ambassador Sunland say ambassador Simon referred to her investigations into the divide in somebody's mind two thousand sixteen that directly refutes the official White House line the money held up had absolutely nothing to do with by tomorrow and ask her to the E. U. Gordon sunlit is set to testify after he amended his closed door testimony to acknowledge a quid pro
Congressman Jim Himes On Amb. Sondland's Upcoming Testimony
"Democratic congressman Jim Himes on fox news Sunday anticipating the testimony of easy you ambassador Gordon someone it it was not lost on ambassador Sunland what happened to the president's close associate Roger stone for lying to Congress to Michael call in for lying to Congress my guess is that masters online is going to do his level best to tell the truth because otherwise he may have a very unpleasant legal future in in front of a Republican congressman Steve Scalise also on fox says the release of the aid to Ukraine had nothing to do with the start of the investigation into the president two days prior president trump released the aid after he made sure by law why the by the way Indian pelo C. voted for that law Schiff voted for the law that requires that he ensured that corruption is being routed out before taxpayer money goes for country
Diplomats reveal new details on Ukraine at first impeachment hearing
"Day. One Thousand Twenty eight of the trump administration will go down as day one of the first public impeachment hearings in generation. Today's testimony featured to veterans senior diplomats called upon to lay out the case part of the overall case against the president. Today is testimony brought forth some some new revelations that tied trump closer to the Ukraine pressure campaign ambassador. George Kantha State Department's top expert on Ukraine. And William Taylor Taylor. The current acting ambassador to Ukraine appeared together before the House Intel Committee. Both our top diplomat. Who served under both Republican and democratic like presidents? I represent the third generation of my family to have chosen a career in public service in sworn the oath of office that all. US US public servants. Do in defense of our Constitution. Indeed there has been George Bent sworn to defend the constitution continuously for nearly sixty years. It has been a privilege for me to serve our country and the American people for more than fifty years starting as a cadet at West Point. Is You have mentioned Mr Chairman. That is an infantry officer for six cheers including with one hundred first Airborne Division in Vietnam than at the Department of Energy than as a member of a Senate staff then at NATO than with the State Department right here and abroad in Afghanistan Iraq Jerusalem and Ukraine much of the hearing focused on the July twenty fifth phone call in which President trump trump asked Ukraine's presidents Alinsky for investigations into the Biden and our two thousand sixteen election. The witnesses also described an effort by trump up in his deputies to leverage that country into delivering those investigations if they wanted the promise. US military aid to be used in their fight the Russians by the way it was against that backdrop that ambassador Taylor eventually revealed another pivotal conversation involving trump. That took replace July twenty six the day after the phone call in question. Taylor set a staffer of his recently told him about this conversation involving having the president and the trump donor turned ambassador to the EU. Gordon Sunland member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador ambassador. Sunland the investigations that's toll president trump the Ukrainians were ready to move forward following the call. With president trump trump. The member of my staff asked investor. Solomon what president trump thought about Ukraine. That's the song and responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden. mm-hmm which Giuliani was pressing for two sources familiar with this matter told NBC News that David Holmes currently the political counselor at the US Embassy. The in Ukraine is the staff member that Taylor was referring to there Taylor Story About Holmes earned homes and invitation at testify which he will do behind closed doors on Friday complicating matters for the Republicans and making him a less easy target. NBC NBC News. Also reports that in twenty fourteen. Mr Holmes won a State Department award for speaking out internally about the Obama Obama Administration policy in Afghanistan. Gordon Sunlen never mentioned this particular call with trump and his closed door testimony before impeachment impeachment investigators trump who spent the day hosting Turkey's president. Erta one at the White House says he was too busy to watch the hearing late today. Trump responded onto this new information however from Ambassador Taylor. I know nothing about that. First Time I've heard the one thing that I've seen that Sandelin said was that He did speak to me for a brief moment. And I said no quid pro quo under any circumstances and that's true in any event that's more second hand end information but I've never heard of conversation I don't recall no not at all. Not even a little bit intelligence committee chairman Adam. Schiff had a very different different. Take on this matter what this call indicates as other testimony has likewise indicated. Is that the instructions coming from the the president on down during the hearing Republicans Slam Taylor
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on Erin Burnett OutFront
"Tonight breaking news. A major revelation during today's Today's first public impeachment hearing president trump trump himself over her talking about the investigations and Ukraine. Bill Taylor the top US diplomat in and Ukraine and Georgia. Ken The Deputy Assistant Secretary of State testified today for about six hours Taylor providing this crucial new evidence here he is telling telling lawmakers about a phone call which took place one day. After trump asked for a favor from the president of Ukraine wins. alinsky brought up military aid in the presence of my staff at a restaurant. Besser Sahlin called president trump and told him of his meetings and gave the member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador. Sunland about the Investigations Sean. Toll President trump the Ukrainians were ready to move forward and Taylor then revealing what took place immediately after Ambassador Sunland that of course Gordon Sunland Ambassador to the EU right after after he hung up with President trump. And I think you said that after the call when your staff asked Best Roussin than what. President trump thought of Ukraine Ukraine. His response was that president. Trump cares more about the investigations Biden. Is that right and Brisbane. Yes Sir And I take the import of that is he cares more about that than he does. About Ukraine you sir. chump today was was asked about this new revelation. Right about this phone call and what he told ambassador. Gordon sunlit. Here's what president trump said the spend a lot of time. TV Today but there was one. Where Ambassador Real Taylor? Every candidate conversation an aide of his little heard her was the day after the phone call on July the twenty six in which the eight cents than he ever heard you say the sun how are things going with the proceeding sheeting with the investigations. Solomon repeat it back to you. According to this aid that Ukraine was prepared to do everything that you wanted to do. You is that correct. Can you fill in some more. I know nothing about that. First Time I've heard it the one thing I've seen that said was that He to speak to me for a brief moment. And I said no quid pro quo under any circumstances and that's true the other. I've never heard this in any event it's more second hand information but I've never heard recall conversation. I don't recall now not at all not even a little bit. Not even a little bit not even a little bit. Does he recall speaking to solid. He says he knows nothing about it. But however he does seem to remember telling sandline no quid pro quo martyrs out front with more on the historic testimony. DOC The momentous hearing gaveled into session impeachment inquiry into Donald J trump ambassador. Bill Taylor trump's top diplomat in Ukraine and George Kent a Deputy Assistant Secretary of state laying out what they saw and heard as the trump administration held up military aid while demanding investigations into trump's political enemies. The push to make presidents alinsky publicly commit to investigations of BEREA SMA and alleged interference in the two thousand sixteen sixteen elections showed how the official foreign policy of the United States was undercut by. The irregular. Efforts led by Mr Giuliani Taylor and Ken and testifying that Rudy Giuliani. The president's personal lawyer was leading. What Taylor called highly irregular channel with Ukraine? What interests do you believe? He was promoting Rhodie. Mr Cat I believe. He was looking to dig up political dirt against a potential rival in the next election cycle. I agree with Mr Ken. Both men making clear how unsettled they were. With the rogue Ukraine policy and the demands on the Ukrainians. It's one thing to try to leverage a meeting in the White House. It's another thing. I thought to Leverage Leverage Security Assistance Security Assistance to a country at war dependent on both the security assistance and the demonstration of support. It was it was much more alarming as a general principle. I do not believe the United States should ask other countries to engage in selective politically associated investigations or prosecutions against opponents of those in power because such Selective actions undermine the rule of law regardless of the country Republicans led by ranking member of the Intelligence Committee Devin nunes blasted the hearing the GOP The united in their defense that the president never actually demanded investigations. I think one of the mothers of all conspiracy theories somehow the president of the United States. It's would want a country that he doesn't even like he doesn't want to give foreign aid to to have the Ukrainians started investigation into Biden's Jim Jordan of Ohio who was added to the Intelligence Committee for the sole purpose of questioning the impeachment. Witnesses making the point that Taylor and can never actually spoke with the president president. You're their star witness. You're there I witness right. You're the guy based on this based on I mean I've seen I've seen church urge prayer. Change that are easier to understand this ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr Morrison told now again this is I hereby swear affirm from Gordon Solid Basser Taylor recalls was it. Mr Morrison told ambassador table that I told Mr Moore's the night conveyed. This message Michigan on September. First Roy Hint and Taylor were steadfast that hundreds of millions of dollars in crucial all security aide and a meeting between the presidents in Washington were held back unless Ukraine promised the investigations Mr. Ken Is is pressuring Ukraine to conduct duct. Would I believe you've called political investigations a part of US foreign policy to promote the rule of law in Ukraine and around the world. It is not is it in the national interest of the United States. In my opinion it is not Taylor calling it crazy let securities. I was so important for Ukraine as well as our own national interest to withhold that assistance for no good reason season other than help with political campaign made no sense it was. It was counterproductive to all of what we had been trying to do. It was illogical could not be explained. It was crazy. This hearing of course was just the beginning. There are nine more people scheduled to testify in open hearings next up on Friday. Is Marie Ivanovich. The former US ambassador to Ukraine who was recalled by the president in May after what she called a concerted campaign against her by Giuliani and his associates. Now you bitch is expected to speak more to the partisan game that she said. She watched unfold in Ukraine and Aaron also on Friday. That aid to ambassador Taylor David. Holmes who overheard that call between the president and ambassador. Gordon solid you'll also be testifying but behind closed doors all right. Thank you very much. Alex and out front now. One of the Democratic Congressman on the Intelligence Committee who questioned the witnesses today congressman denny. Heck House when I appreciate your time So here we are six hours to witnesses in. Are You satisfied with what happened at the public hearing today. Plus just the beginning right. Aaron and the rest of America's being given an opportunity to learn what we learned through all those many weeks of depositions behind closed doors I I thought the two gentlemen today presented themselves very credibly. One Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent a twenty seven year veteran of the foreign service and quite distinguished and of course embassador Taylor who was a west point graduate. In fact we learned today he was graduated. Fifth out of eight hundred and Vietnam veteran and a distinguished career in the foreign service they made compelling and clear case as they had during their desperate depositions. My hope going forward. Frankly is that as many Americans as possible will tune in in evaluate. Wait this I I. I asked them to keep an open mind and taken this information because the fact of the matter is there is a mountain of evidence. So do you think anything happened in that room today day. That will actually move the needle for Americans who are tuning in for the first time or Americans who may support the president but are tuning in for the first time or perhaps congressman or any Republican and Senators who are trying to keep an open mind on which way they'll vote. Absolutely I going into today. They're kind of three buckets. Those who tuned in tall and they would have an opportunity to see in here this for themselves and I thought again it was very compelling secondly there are people who have been paying close attention and they may have read the depositions positions but again that's distinct on a page they got the C in here from incredibly credible witnesses thirdly and I thought the least chance would happen is that new information mation would be revealed but lo and behold I was wrong there was of course. A bit of many bombshell ambassador Taylor revealed revealed that his aid actually literally overheard Ambassador Ambassador Sunland and president trump talking the day.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on The Young Turks
"New news. July twenty six exceed says he has found out since he testified before the committee and closed doors that Gordon Sunland who was really kinda point person between president trump and the new Ukrainian mccranie. It's much more so than Taylor was never actually talked to. The president was on the phone in a restaurant in Ukraine with the president on July. Twenty six the day after the the trump visit Leninsky. Phone call And that he could over here. The staff member for Taylor could over here. The president set saying what about the investigations So clearly the investigations by Taylor thought the investigations into the Democrats in two thousand sixteen also The investigation into Biden. That was very much on the president's awesome. It's mine and then the aid asked Aslan Lynn what the president thought about Ukraine and this is a quote from detailer statement Ambassador Sunland in London responded to president. Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden. Which Giuliani was pressing for? He was asked about it. More than and Challenge that Ukraine. Yeah so look the facts are crystal-clear even Chris Wallace acknowledging it. Obviously we all he cared about was investigating his political opponent so this is a debate between all rational people who see the facts perfectly clearly and an insane asylum. It's like you you want to you. You go into an insane asylum okay. Who wants to debate politics? I probably a lot of them. Do Okay have fun. But what's important about Chris. Wallace's Wallis's he's inside the silent and he has a little bit of trust inside the silent so the patients are looking around going. Oh wait is that true. I heard it was triple hearsay. I I was told that I was supposed to look at squirrels. What happened right? So the fact that he's able to speak inside the SILOM Alam. I think might make a little bit of a difference. Exactly that's all you need. So let's move on to a Republican lawmaker. Who Actually got owned During this hearing thing and I really appreciated this moment because it perfectly illustrates how Democrats aren't playing. Finally they're coming out this from a strong position and so during the impeachment hearing the first public impeachment hearing into Donald Trump Jim Jordan wanted to make a big to do about the whistle blower who remains anonymous now as we know. Republicans are really latching onto a very weak and flimsy defense and part of that Defense Donald. Donald trump is well. We don't know who this whistle blower. Is this whistle. Blower could be a partisan. There could be some political motivations here now as we know the whistle blower at this point. It's completely irrelevant. Because we have multiple trump administration officials testifying against him in providing testimony about the quid pro quo between Donald trump up and Vladimir's Alinsky the president of Ukraine but nonetheless Jim Jordan goes up and decides to bring up the whistle blower checkout. How he gets responded to now? There is one witness one witness that they won't bring in front of us they won't bring in front of the American people that's the guy who started it all whistleblower. Thank you say to my colleague be glad to have the the person who started it all come in and testify. President trump is welcome and to take a seat right there. Oh owned Welsh for the win. Okay there's something about men from Vermont apparently. Yeah that's right so but look Substance of this. Let me give you an analogy. They keep saying the whistleblower the whistle blower the whistleblower is in essence. The Guy who called nine one one now then the cops show up and they do an investigation of crime time and let's say the crime in my analogy is murder and they have witnesses and they have three people say yeah. That guy came in and shot that guy in the head I saw what other ones says I saw two and it was all him it was and they have amazing evidence right and the defense for the for the defendant comes up and post road we gotta get that guy that gets the real problem right the judge and the jury would be like who who cares who called nine one one we have three witnesses saying your client shot the guy in the head. What wow what? How in the world is the guy who called nine one one relevant so? That's exactly what we have with the whistle blower hear the whistle blower says. Hey guys to check out this call. Seems like it's problematic. Then a swarm warm witnesses. Come in and go. Oh yeah no deal was. Trump wanted his political investigating the yield up military aid and they got him dead to rights of all these different witnesses. This is documents texts everything. But who's the whistleblower totally relevant bucket of squirrels. That's it all right. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back left. Parnes Giuliani associate is Dishing all the dirt on his conversations with Donald Trump and it does does not look good for trump when it comes to this impeachment investigation. We'll give you the details on that and more when we return..
Trump prioritized Biden investigation over Ukraine aid
"And Republican lawmakers presented dueling narratives today as a US congressional impeachment inquiry that threatens Donald Trump's wants to multi presidency and to the crucial new phase with the first televised public hearing evidence was heard from two career. US diplomats Matt's William Taylor and George Kent who voiced alarm over the Republican president and those around him pressuring Ukraine to conduct investigations. That would benefit trump politically one revelation in particular drew attention showing trump's keen interest in Ukraine investigating political rival. Joe Biden aiden. Taylor said a member of his staff overheard July twenty six phone. Call between trump and Gordon sunland a form of political donor appointed as as a senior diplomat. In which the Republican president asked about those investigations and Sunlen told him that the Ukrainians were ready to proceed following the coal which occurred a day after trump had asked Ukraine's president during a phone call to conduct these investigations. The staff member asked Sunland the US ambassador to the European Union. What trump thought about Ukraine said Taylor? The top US diplomat in Ukraine ambassador. Sunland responded that President Trump cavs more about the investigations of Biden which Giuliani was pressing for Taylor testified referring to trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani in previously unheard testimony. Bill Taylor the acting. US Ambassador to Ukraine said a member of his staff was told. Mr Trump was preoccupied with pushing for a probe into Mr Biden. Asked by Adam Schiff the committee's Democratic chairman if that meant trump cared more about the investigations nations than about Ukraine. Taylor said Yes sir.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on KOMO
"Ambassador Sunland had a direct line of communication into president trump I did it with and you testified rather than that text message about her son Lynn says to call him after you wrote that did you in fact call him I did and why what did he say to you he said that I had I was wrong about president trump's intent that there was no quid pro quo and what did he say anything after that did you describe to you I believe you said out of refresh your memory that thank you he mentioned something in Europe you in opening statement you said that he said that everything I believe in you had that in quotes was actually contingent on the initiation of these investigations what did he mean by everything was gone what he meant by everything was this security systems and the White House meeting and I believe you you also testified that he said he had made a mistake and relaying a message to the Ukrainians what was that mistake mistake he told me it was earlier he had told presumably president Zelinsky and Mister your mark and that what was this is sherry for the White House meeting was the pursuit of these investigations and he said he recognizes that was a mistake is not just the White House meeting that was dependent on the investigations he said it was now everything is included the security assistance so was not just the White House meeting it was also the security assistance differ.
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on KGO 810
"And hunter Biden correspondent Jessica Schneider reports on the transcripts of depositions from advisers Fiona hell and Alexander van button kill testifying ambassador Sunland in front of the Ukrainians as I came in was talking about how he had an agreement with chief of staff Mulvaney for meeting with Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations the white house's top expert on Ukraine lieutenant colonel Alexander mean echoed that saying investigations by Ukraine were the deliverable coordinated by Mulvaney someone just said that he had a conversation with Mr Mulvaney and this is what was required in order to get a meeting the nationally televised impeachment hearings get underway Wednesday morning Germany is marking the thirtieth anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall with five other European leaders in attendance at today's ceremony correspondent Frederick play again a lot of folks are saying look right now that feeling of freedom that feeling of unity in Germany and in Europe is something that can't be taken for granted anymore for some of the political developments that you see here in Europe with the rise of the far right wing is in places like Germany in other countries as well rex and a lot of folks also speaking about some of the political divisions in the United States Amtrak is on a roll reporting record ridership and revenue figures Sam track the government owned passenger railroad center provided thirty two point five million passenger trips an increase of about eight hundred thousand over the previous fiscal year total operating revenue rose more than three percent to three point three billion dollars with an operating loss of just under thirty million that's the smallest loss in Amtrak's forty eight year history a promising numbers lead officials to predict the heavily subsidized railroad could eliminate operating losses as soon as next year I'm Barbara sack in Washington I'm in case the biggest issue with Asians are relation is the fear of going in it again.
Sondland detailed 'quid pro quo' in amended testimony filed this week, transcript shows
"Oster sunland testimony came with a remarkable addendum. That just yesterday. He changed his story on one of the main questions. At the heart of this he came in and told you. Just tell if I've got this right as far as I can tell. He came in and told you a couple of weeks ago basically. Yeah there was a quid pro quo in terms of there being a White House meeting for the new Ukrainian president that he wasn't going to get that unless they pursued these investigations. I didn't really know. What the investigations were? But yeah. That was the quid pro quo when it comes to military aid no I would never be involved in that now. He's admitting yes. There was was a quid pro quo for military aid and yes he was involved in it and he said that after ambassador Taylor's Opening statement was released ambassador. Taylor said that ambassador Sunland told him everything's on the table. It's not only the meeting at the White House. It's also the military assistance in in Rachel. If all the president did was asked the president of Ukraine to to investigate his political opponent that would be an abuse of power but he did much worse he leveraged the White House meeting in three hundred and ninety one million dollars in taxpayer dollars and I have a different take though ambassador. Sure sunland where people are really beating them up for his original statement and that's really for prosecutors to determine what that means but investigations. It's often times the case that people will want to do the right thing and tell the truth and I think it's important that if other witnesses have not been truthful to us or not come in. Because they've they've been told to not do that. We should give them the space to do the right thing especially before These public hearings. Let me ask you something. That's kind of a part hypothetical about that. When I was looking at ambassador Sunland testimony today? Particularly this revision. He still insists that he has no idea why the military aid was withheld have held or who did it at the same time. Your Committee also released the seventy five pages of text messages in which we see ambassador. sunlen being directly really informed by Bill Taylor that was holding up the military aid per the president. And so he still telling you as of today in his revised statement statement. I don't know who did it. With withholding military aid. We can see him respond in real time on his phone to being told that the president was doing that he responds to that. By saying I'm all over it as as if all work on it so if it turns out that these witnesses are lying to you even if they're not trying to but they are lying to you should they expect that there will be some consequences offenses that for them not just in terms of how it plays for the President's defense I'm sure a Department of Justice that actually cares about what happened here. Not Bill Bars Department of Justice will look at the truthfulness of witnesses but again this early in the investigation. I do think it's common you see. People evolve oftentimes people. There's just some facts that witnesses is will even if they know it they'll have a close hold on it. Fortunately here ambassador Solomon's not the only one that proves that there was knowledge that the security assistance was being withheld. We have other witnesses witnesses that no that was going on. We've heard that in public statements and we can prove that in other west
Top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine describes "alarming" Ukraine pressure campaign
"But I to politics and yesterday's major moment in the house impeachment inquiry William Taylor. US charge d'affaires to Ukraine laid out his opening statement regarding president trump and Ukraine fifteen pages of detailed careful testimony that asserted there was a quid pro quo between the White House and Ukraine regarding investigating the Biden's including Taylor's testimony that President Trump wanted Ukrainian president alinsky quote in a public box by making a public statement about launching such an investigation so let's dive into this joining us from Washington we have Mike Willis senior reporter for the hill talks we'll talk about us with the latest from Congress so welcome to on point Hello Megan thanks for having me well so first of all tell us a little bit more about what Taylor has offered in his testimony how much more detailed in giving us from what we've known over the past couple of weeks well based on the opening statement which leaked very early in this process it was just a few minutes after he went into the door and it was very clear that he wanted this out there and it's quite damning testimony as you said that trump wanted a foreign country to open investigations into his political arrivals and and he leverage to things to try to get that done and you know in Short Donald Trump and his allies have said that there is no quid pro quo they said it over and over again over the course of of this month long investigation Bill Taylor said very clearly that no yes there was and here's the evidence that lays out how this happened and as you said again he took very meticulous notes he has delivered those the State Department and there's no doubt Congress and Nancy Pelosi Adam Schiff we're gonNA WANNA get their hands on those documents as well that will offer a you know a lot more detail than just the fifteen page opening statement which is always seen to this point but you know th this puts this trump in a box I think that that is the lansky would be in a public box trump is now in a box it's his word against a career diplomat and and he's taking all these notes and if he delivers them to Congress then you know buckle up we we got we've got a fight on our hands now Mike let's dig into this a little bit more because I mean for example simple Taylor goes into quite a bit of detail regarding what he calls any regular policy channel effectively run by Rudy Giuliani and ambassador Somboon I mean we haven't seen this level of detail about the activities of Guiliani Guiliani in sunland before have we know we you know we've heard whispers about it we have heard testimony suggesting as much you know when Marie Yovani Bitch was here just last week she was the former US ambassador to Ukraine she was removed moved in May over concerns Giuliani was running sort of a shadow state department was trying to pressure foreign leaders you know to to do too Venditti investigations that would have helped trump's campaign so very politically motivated it would seem and and her testimony was also fairly damning but it wasn't and delivered in this much detail at least we've seen the transcripts we think will come out later but we haven't seen the transcripts and so we don't know exactly what was said so to say that we haven't that no one has delivered this type of detail we don't know the answer but certainly it hasn't been made public and that is why everybody sort of in you know in an uproar this week can and if you listen to the Democrats coming out of Bill Taylor's deposition yesterday they you know they seem to say that this is the smoking gun without without using those words you know they said this is this the the most damning testimony that we've heard so far someone described it as a sea change in the in the process and and Stephen Lynch from Massachusetts should this could actually accelerate the process because the Democrats now have exactly what they need. Well let's listen to a little bit of that reaction that you're talking about Mike here's freshman congressman and eleven a Democrat from Michigan his what he said all I have to say is that in my ten short months in Congress Avenue Right and this is the most disturbing day in Congress so far now Mike Lewis in the language of a career diplomat Matt usually they are very careful right not to assert not to inject politics into statements like this but I was quite taken when Taylor writes that he felt that this sort of informal channel this informed policymaking channel was actually acting in opposition to long standing US policy I mean my sense is that for a diplomat those are pretty strong words extremely strong words and what you're seeing you know yes the career diplomats are usually very careful they don't like to get involved in the politics and that's to their advantage obviously these guys serve under you know various administrations of both parties and they want to be seen as new Bolton it neutral arbiters of of US foreign policy and not let the politics encroach on it any of that you know that's an important element of the State Department and it's why they seek to remain sort of autonomist but what you saw even going back to the Maria Vich testament Oni she was very kurt about the detrimental effects that this whole episode is having on the State Department is that are you know. It's an Rosen of morale People think that Mike Pompeo the secretary of State is leaning too far towards trump and not defending the the career diplomats enough and that's why these guys are coming up to you know they're defying the blockade that trump is trying to put on these witnesses on the documents and they're testifying you understood peanut but they're sort of friendly subpoenas right the State Department says you can't you can't testify the Democrats issue a subpoena and they come in there singing like birds and you gotta think that they are I to protect the institution because you know Bill Taylor doesn't seem to have any any kind of legal involvement in this he's he's not under scrutiny for any of this it's threatened quit over it so it's not like he's trying to save himself in this case he's trying to save the institution that he spent his life working for now a little bit more about that public box heart because again it's the level of detail here which is so eye-opening that Taylor says that Ambassador Sunland the US ambassador to the European Union said that told him that everything was dependent on everything in a meeting with the president the four hundred million dollars in assistance that it was all dependent on the Ukrainian president making this announcement making an announcement about investigating that company Berea Samoan the Biden's and that President I wanted Alinsky in a public box by making a public statement about ordering such investigations and later on we even read that they had discussed Zelinski going on in order to do this that's right yeah you know and that that part was not a surprise because if you look at the text messages that were released a couple of weeks ago that was Kurt Volker it was the former US envoy to the Ukraine and he came up testified he gave Congress of a series of text messages between himself Gordon saw online and Bill Taylor and they revealed very clearly the Volcker and saw them we're both could pressing Zilenski to make that public statement and they were sort of dangling meeting with the donald trump to get what they wanted so for bill tailored to come up to Capitol Hill and kind of amplify that message was not a surprise he provided some more details but the the episode didn't change and so you know that that part's not a surprise and so on of course came up and testified just last week he said that he had right regretted making some of those offers he he didn't deny them but he did say there was no quid pro quo directly with the US military aid and so there was a discrepancy there between Bill Taylor and Gordon Song and one of the things that most striking out of yesterday was that a lot of Democrats seem to think that on the was not was less less than opened less than sincere in his testimony and some of them want Gordon on to come back and testify again and to iron out some of the discrepancies with Taylor's testimony so we'll have to see you know does this prolong the process now if if previous witnesses have to come back doesn't accelerate the process as Stephen Lynch because they have the smoking gun these are all kind of balls in the air and questions that we have looking forward all right well let's hear belief briefly from tape from a couple of Republicans about how the reacting to the release of of Taylor's testimony or is opening statement yesterday here's Florida Congressman Matt Gates a Republican insisting that the democratic reaction to Taylor's testimonies overblown the president has been very clear that there is not this new kitchen aid to any future election activity and the most important factual development actually I understand came from questions from congressman Ratcliffe he asked will is there any Ukrainian who we can point to add any moment in time who knew that this aid was even on a hold first of all Mike can we point to you you creatine who knew that this aid on hold it seems like Taylor's opening statement says we can yes there was opening statement says that we can now he's not naming names just yet but I'm sure that the questions that were asked after the opening statement was made and so we'll have to await the the transcripts but you know the Democrats counter again the smoking gun with Taylor goes back all the way to the to the whistle blower to the transcript that the White House itself released between Donald Trump and presidents Alinsky of your testimony and Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney who was on TV last Thursday and seemed to suggest yes there was a quid pro quos so you know as as the accumulation continues as the the statements come out they seem to be pointing in that direction and the Democrats at this point it just kind of say you know they're taking for granted that this has happened and now the question is how do we react to their beyond the question of whether this did in fact happen and is Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell speaking with CBS's Nancy Cortez yesterday the president has said that you told him that his phone call talking about that you'll have to ask I don't recall any conversations with the president about that phone call Mike Lewis we've just got about thirty seconds here so when you hear Mitch McConnell trying to take a half step back there while also supporting the president what does that mean it means that he's being very consistent you know he he's been he's he has been critical the president in certain on certain issues you've seen it on the most recent Syria troop pullout but he's been very careful not to go after the president on anything he is up for reelection twenty twenty and the base is still much behind Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell is going to need them both to get legislative things done and to get reelected is a senior reporter for the hill speaking to us from Washington my thank you so much thank you make me happy agree with you
Key takeaways from Ukraine diplomat Bill Taylor's 'explosive' opening statement
"Explosive testimony from was top diplomat in Ukraine Bill Taylor behind closed doors for ten hours and if you read just his fifteen page prepared opening statement you know that trump offered a quid pro quo period full stop end of story according to Taylor this opening statement itself is thorough it is detailed in Act for Taylor to read these fifteen pages took over an hour Taylor telling lawmakers that president trump used the powers of his office to push Ukraine to investigate Biden and the two thousand sixteen election and debunked conspiracy theory linked to that one of the most alarming admissions refers to the text message sent by Taylor to the ambassador to the EU Gordon Sunland back in September let me just remind you of that text message it said are we now saying that security assistance and White House meeting are conditioned on Investigations Solomon Response Calming Well Taylor revealing exactly what was said on that phone call and this comes from the opening statement. I WanNa read some of these lines that are really important he says during that phone call ambassadors Sunland told me the president trump had told him that he wants residents Alinsky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burri sma
"ambassador sunland" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Verse online said everything was dependent on such an announcement including security assistance by which he means military assistance Simon said that president to president trump during our call on September eighth ambassador Sunland tried to explain to me that president trump is a businessman when a businessman is about to sign a check someone who owes him something he said the businessman asks him to pay up before signing the check argued that the explanation made no sense Ukrainians did not oh president trump anything and holding up military assistance for are domestic political gain was crazy Gordon Sauna Untold Bill Taylor that after we spoke with President trump he then spoke once again with Ukrainian the president and with the Ukrainian president assistant quote Ambassador Sunland said that this conversation concluded with presidents alinsky agreeing to make a public statement in an interview with CNN quote after that call with Ambassador Sunland I expressed my strong reservations and text message to him stating that my nightmare is that Okay the Ukrainians give that interview and then they still don't get the security assistance the Russians love it and I quit I was serious he says so bill Taylor fifty years in service to this country was going to quit this job because in this was selling out Ukraine to the Russians right here Putin take Ukraine take what you want we no longer support them you can have it we're not giving them military support anymore and of course along the way to that betrayal Ukraine will be used to conjure up some politically useful thing for president for his re-election effort something that will be collected and used by the president and then maybe he's going to screw them anyway and still not given that military aid and the Russians will love it quote I will quit I mean it's it's one thing to put people who are comfortable with this kind of scheme in charge of carrying it out that is the president trump did that's apparently why Gordon Sunken Ambassador to the Egwu was in Ukraine Ukraine's not part of the EU that's apparently what Volker was doing there as well as the president's on void to Ukraine that's apparently what Rick Perry the secretary of energy was doing inserted into all of this process and that's of course what Rudy Giuliani it was therefore it's also apparently why they got rid of the previous Ukrainian Ambassador Maria vetch but you know they did have to find some real person to hold down the work of the embassy after they fired her unfortunately for them they picked a non-partisan fifty year veteran diplomat who not only knows how things are supposed to run in US policy actually something about the country in which he's operating and he could see not only what a disaster this was in terms of president trump directly soliciting something from a foreign country that he wanted to use in his reelection campaign which is crime he could see what it was doing to that country for this craven illegal US policy action to put country in this position and so today with this remarkable testimony we get this belated but robust sort of cry of conscience ambassador Bill Taylor and we get the news that he apparently took notes and filed memo's every step of the way along this entire process so this is really preceding I think along kind of three different lanes here I mean this investigation in Congress has basically fill out the narrative about how this scheme worked and what they were trying to do and who was involved I mean the secretary of state clearly knew about it he was not only listening in on the infamous on call between president trump and Celeski that led to this impeachment he was involved in the firing of the previous ambassador he knew why she was being fired right he was the recip the end of the whole stash of documents from Giuliani laying out the scheme that stash of documents that was ultimately provided to Congress by the Inspector General of the State Department we know Oh from this testimony today that the top official representative of the US government in Ukraine Bill Taylor.
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"On Capitol Hill remember that very very well and I keep on warning that we stay and this is going to get worse but but one counterpoint week which is totally right that the president that criticism is now getting to him but one thing that's been interesting is he's had a couple of rallies where he's talked about this and when you talk to Israelis which again are his court court form be supporters and he talks about analysts wars in bringing troops home and not spending money overseas that should be being spent here that's still a big applause line he gets people chanting bring them home bring them home and so with the present he cares about is basing it secure but evangelicals especially need to care about Republicans on Capitol Hill is he's facing an impeachment but for those core supporters to energize the present there are one hundred percent on board at least with the CliffsNotes patch which is where and it unless wars were bringing our troops home will his base stick with them that is such that it's such an important question as we look not only at Syria but the president's impeachment probing the possible impeachment of him on Capitol Hill and he faces challenges their top diplomats from the trump administration appeared on Capitol Hill this week to testify in the house impeachment pro end up picture began to emerge of president trump's shadow foreign policy run by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani first the former National Security Council director in charge of Ukraine policy testified that she and John Bolton were alarmed about rogue efforts to pressure you crane involving Giuliani White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and the US ambassador to the E. U. Gordon Sunland on Thursday ambassador Sunland a trump donor testified that the president told him to deny that there was any quid pro quo and Michael McKinley who quit last week as an adviser to the secretary of state said he was disturbed by attempts to use foreigners to hurt the president's political opponents Mulvaney appear to contradict the president on Thursday because of the demand for an investigation.