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What are good stats for a new podcast?

Podcasting Q&A

03:48 min | 4 months ago

What are good stats for a new podcast?

"Today's episode you'll learn what kind of downloads that you can expect with a new podcast. Welcome to podcast in Q. In a were you learned the best tips and strategies to launch, grow and monetize your show. This week's question comes from leading hello bud sprout team. My name is letty and my podcast is called my sweet business with letty Alvarez I'm new to podcasting and I'm wondering what should be considered good stats for a new podcast. Thanks in advance for your answer by. Thanks for question, letty congratulations on launching your podcast monitoring. New podcast is a lot of work record. You Edit you plan you do all of those things and naturally you want as many people as possible to listen. But where should you place your expectations? and. This episode will ask three questions to help determine what your benchmark for success should be. Question Number One, do you already have an existing audience chances are if you're just starting out in podcasting, you're going to build your audience from scratch. So it's not fair to compare your building audience to someone who already has one, hundred thousand or so followers on instagram. The numbers are just going to be different, for example. Oprah starts a podcast the millions of people that love Oprah are going to go listen to download her podcast. As opposed to someone WHO's just starting out in his building that following and that audience it's okay that you're building every podcasters starts out building. You just want to adjust say expectations accordingly. Question number two how popular is your podcast? Subject three is some podcasts topics just come with a larger built in audience and others true crime podcasts super-popular and happening right now home gardening and maybe less. So we're not suggesting that you pick up a podcast topic simply off popularity. That's not what we're saying at all. If you're passionate about home schooling or dying hair ridiculous colors, you should podcast about that. You just WanNa be mindful that you're subject matter may determine your audience size, but that's completely okay. Question number three. How good is your first impression? You've all heard it said, you don't judge a book by its cover which we all know it's false. We definitely judge books by their cover and podcast no different. A first impression with podcast usually comes by way of cover art audio quality, as well as catchy episode titles. So cover arts. If you're not a graphic designer, you're going to want to outsource this most likely. You can use a website like up work or ninety nine designs that uses actual graphic designers to create stunning amazing cover art podcasters with audio you definitely want. Practice your MIC techniques you want to make sure that your volume levels are level. If you've got people walking around and talking the background, your dog barking, you're going to want eliminate those things that you have crisp clean sound, and then lastly catchy titles you don't WanNA use click. Bait here because that definitely does not work with podcast episodes, but you do want to create something that's interesting something. That's an accurate representation of what people are going to get when they click on this episode title and Listen It's just gotta be interesting it's gotta be accurate but you can definitely do it. After hearing all that you may still be wondering what's the hard number I should be shooting for we can tell you the average bus sprout podcast gets about fifty downloads per episode, and that's actually very significant. So just focus on clearing that hurdle first and setting yourself apart in the top half of all podcasters and continue to serve your audience and your podcast will grow things. They're sending US your question leading if you have A. Question, you would like us to answer on a future episode of the show just head over to speak pipe dot com slash buds, sprout, or click the link in the show notes and leave us a brief message. Make sure to subscribe to the bus route youtube channel or to the podcast in a podcast in your favorite to get new episodes in your feet every week. That's it for today. Thanks for listening and as always keep podcasting.

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Luis W. Alvarez born - June 13, 1911

This Day in History Class

08:38 min | 1 year ago

Luis W. Alvarez born - June 13, 1911

"This week on ephemeral. As a kid, FRANZ, leads his father would tell him scary stories before bed only these stories are true, my father, or the engineer inventor who never really had much use for fairy tales. He preferred real life grotesquery to fix it still at that time. I would listen raptly to his urban harvest his cows that filled with Jim around boogeyman and goal hoops, the most Macab Cal was the one of the Kyler brothers, the hermit hoarders of Harlem. Here is like that alliterate. Listen to a federal now on podcasts, the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. And learn more at a federal dot show. This day in history. Class is a production of heart radio. Hi beer Walken to this day in history class. We fifth through the artifacts of history seven days a week. Today is June thirteenth twenty nineteen. The day was June thirteenth, nineteen eleven Louise, Walter Alvarez was born in San Francisco to Walter inherit. Alvarez Alvarez was a physicist, who worked on radar projects during World War Two and inventor and winner of the Nobel prize in physics Louise's, father, Walter was a physician and later a research, physiologist and early on Lewis would go to the lab with him when the weeks was eleven years old, he and his dad made a radio together later. Lewis attended San Francisco polytechnic high school, but ended up moving to Rochester Minnesota while he was enrolled there. His father worked for the mayo clinic in Rochester and Lewis began printing at the mayo clinic's instrument shop, and being tutored by machinists, while he was still in high school. Alvarez went on to study physics at the university of Chicago where he got his bachelors masters, and doctorate, as he was finishing up his PHD. He married Geraldine Smith the two of them later had two children as well as a daughter who died at birth. They later, divorced Louis, then completed a lot of work in California after getting his PHD. He got a job with Ernest Lawrence at the university of California largely through connections. His father and sister had with Lawrence Alvarez, worked on the cyclotron a type of particle accelerator in the radiation laboratory at the university of California at Berkeley. He also worked in a metallurgical laboratory of the university of Chicago analyst Alamos laboratory of the Manhattan District. Alvarez was a prolific scientists, but we'll touch on just some of his discoveries and achievements. He discovered the east west effect. Cosmic rays, a discovery that gave evidence that cosmic rays include positively charged particles once he joined the radiation lab at the university of California, he focused on nuclear physics in nineteen thirty seven he gave the first experimental demonstration of k electron capture by nuclei, which was a phenomenon that had not yet been proven. He also developed a method for producing beams of very slow neutrons Alvarez also developed a mercury vapor lamp with one of his students named Jacob means that development established a new standard of length that the US bureau of standards adopted. But as World War, Two broke out his career shifted gears in one thousand nine hundred forty Alvarez went to work on radar technology at the Massachusetts Institute of technology, where he worked on a microwave early warning system and the eagle high altitude bombing system. He also invented the vixen radar system, which deceived skippers into thinking an allied plane was firing away from a German submarine and allowed attack planes to destroy the U-boats. Louise also figured out a way to help planes land in bad weather when he invented ground control approach when Lewis left the Massachusetts Institute of technology, he went to work on the Manhattan project. You've worked on nuclear bombs into Kogyo created detonators for plutonium bonds in New Mexico. And it was on the plane that conducted the first ever atomic bomb test. He was also on the plane that dropped the atomic bomb little boy on Harris. Shima. Before Fatman, the second atomic bomb was dropped over Nagasaki of res- wrote a letter to a Japanese physicist. He knew urging him to tell Japanese leaders if they continued in the war, another bomb would be dropped on the country. The authorize recognize the horror and devastation that the bombs caused he believed that the bombs would end the war in brings some sort of peace to the world, he also thought that the US should continue research in develop a hydrogen bomb after the war. He went back to Berkeley, he designed and constructed a forty foot proton linear accelerator. He also did a lot of work with large liquid hydrogen bubble chambers. And he helped identify many new particles in nineteen. Sixty eight Lewis won the Nobel prize for his quotes decisive contributions to elementary particle physics in particular, the discovery of a large number of resonant states made possible through his development of the technique of using hydrogen bubble chamber and data analysis after this point he spent a lot of his time. Studying cosmic rays, his later, life, took a nother, surprising yet, not indecipherable, turn people. Put a lot of effort into figuring out the details of the assassination of president, John F Kennedy and he and his geologists done, Walter theorized that an asteroid impact had led to the extinction of dinosaurs. And the end of the Cretaceous, period, the new theory cost and uproar in the scientific community as it was believed that a volcano had killed the dinosaurs. Alvarez died of cancer in nineteen eighty eight by the time of his death. He had received several awards and honorary degrees. I'm eve Jeffcoat in hopefully, you know a little more about history today than you did yesterday. And if you haven't gotten your fill of history after listening to today's episode, you can follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook at t d I h z podcast and if you'd like to learn more about Louis Alvarez listen to the two part episode of stuff you missed in history class called Luis w Alvarez the link is in the description. If you listen to this show, every day, you probably already know that I have a new show, that's called unpopular about people in history. And if you haven't gotten a chance to check it out, yet, please do. Thanks again for listening and we'll see you tomorrow. For more podcasts from iheartradio vis the iheartradio app, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, it was a writing camp at a house in the Hamptons for beyond say, she's walking around with her baby walking from room to room, just listening to what we were working on. I remember forever showed up at the front door. He had like a CD full of beets. Everybody was slinging beats at her. When I remember, I kept getting to the end of the course look a hill goes, here's like because needs another section like the the anthem stadium like everybody screams it. Record it into my phone when I was running like, I'm sitting here panting into the phone. And then that was that was it, then she was like, Kratz you, have you have Beyonce as per single does. Like what? What an interesting day that was. I'm Dave Stewart songwriter producer co founder of Eurythmics and co creator and executive producer of so on the show all about the intimate and mysterious author of sowing. Join us for sung lands podcast on iheartradio app. Alert podcasts.

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MURDERED: Diana Alvarez

Crime Junkie

46:20 min | 7 months ago

MURDERED: Diana Alvarez

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It's clean base to unload it all and I only have to change out that bad like once a month. I'm telling you this thing is keeping me sane while I work from home for offers visit. I ROBOT DOT com slash crime junkie again to learn more and to see offers go to I ROBOT DOT COM Slash Crime Junkie High Crime Junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers and I'm Brit and today I wanNa tell you a story that was told to me by Delia. Deandra the host of our other show counterclockwise and she was a reporter in Florida for some time and she told me about a case that has been rocking southern Florida for four years. Though the case didn't get much national attention and listen I have to give special thanks to Michael Brown and Melissa Montoya Really. I mean to news press in general because they were the only ones who really kept this story alive in the press without the reporting much of this story would be unknown. A story of a young girl whose innocence was stolen by a Predator. This is the story of Diana Alvarez. It was Sunday. May Twenty Ninth Two Thousand Sixteen when Rita Hernandez and her live in boyfriend started with a thought was going to be a normal day. Rita at the time was very pregnant and moving slowly so her boyfriend you re bay was helping get all five kids up and moving for the day but there was a problem. Diana Rita's oldest. From her first marriage was gone. The family lives in a small mobile home in Fort Myers so it wasn't hard to search the entire place up in doubt she was nowhere. They know this isn't right so right away some time between six and seven in the morning. The family calls the local SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO REPORT DIANA MISSING. A deputy is dispatched and from the very beginning. There is a problem. The Language Barrier Diana's family speak Spanish while most of the county sheriff's Deputies Speak English through piece together translations. Three persons of interest immediately emerged for police. Both adults living in the home. That's Rita and re Bay and a twenty something man named Jose who had lived with the family for some time in their trailer but who had recently moved three hours North to Orlando according to Michael Brown and Melissa Montoya's reporting at seven forty two. Am deputies ask rebate to call her? Hey but rebates says the deputy doesn't have him ask anything really related to Diana. Just weird questions like his date of birth where he was right that second which Corey told him that he was in Orlando where he lived heading to Okeechobee. Which is like an hour and a half south. Why would they be asking for his date of birth? Like why not ask where Diana is? I found that strange as well. And I kind of think that this was maybe the language barrier thing coming into play. The deputy says that he wanted the family to ask if he was with Diana or newer she was but the family says that they were just asked to ask his date of birth. So maybe the deputy instructed them wrong maybe there was something in the middle there. That's the truth I mean and honestly maybe that was one of the questions that they asked. It could have been that the police want to get some more information on this guy so they could look into him before actually calling him a person of interest or a suspect. Because I mean at this point. They don't know anything about Diana's whereabouts and you know I kind of lean towards that because the detectives I focused hard on the two adults that were in the home not necessarily whore. Hey though Rita and rebate insist they know nothing in a couple of hours later they even call again and this time he tells them that his car broke down somewhere in Orlando so for a second they think. Oh He's in Orlando with a busted car. Maybe he's an unlikely suspect. Wall searches are conducted around. Diana's trailer park deputies question. Rita and rebate for ten hours rebate is even given a polygraph which he passes but it takes thirteen hours before they're cleared and released during that time that they were being questioned at around one. Oh five that afternoon. The sheriff's Office requested information on a quote suspect named whore. Hey Guerrero Torres. That's the same or hey who they just got in the date of birth on that morning now in addition to trying to find any relevant information on who this guy was and his record was it seems like from email communications that police were also trying to get a picture of him in case it was determined that this was their guy. No during all of this there has still been no sign of Diana anywhere near her home and no helpful information from the people who lived with her by the time. The sheriff's Office presses again for pictures horror at five twenty four pm that night presumably because Rita and rebate are cleared. And there is still no Diana. Billy County Sheriff's Office sends a request for an amber alert to the Florida Department of law enforcement at eleven forty five pm on the twenty ninth. That's what like seventeen or eighteen hours. After she went missing seems like an eternity in case like this. It does but it would actually be even longer before. The amber alert goes out because it seems that either approved or the request wasn't received. It's not entirely clear to me. All we know is that an amber alert doesn't go out for Diana on that night even seventeen or eighteen hours. After she'd been missing from her home it was gonna take much longer and for a while. There's just nothing no sign of Diana in any searches. No amber alert to try and find her outside of the immediate area and no idea where she might be though. Police are hard at work behind the scenes trying to piece together her last movements and the movements of Hor. Hey and they're getting close. Police scheduled a face to face interview with Hore. Hey on the thirty first. The third day the Diana has been missing from the time it took them to make that appointment then getting a helicopter to see him. I mean this is just like a twenty minute span. According to Melissa Montoya's reporting Whore Hey ran. That's never a good luck. No never but police get lucky when they're in Orlando because go hey. Isn't there anymore. He let something else behind. Some of the behind the scenes work police were doing was trying to trace or hey using his cell phone and although he appeared to be on the run before they could meet up with him his phone was still located in. Orlando. But here's the thing when they actually find it. It isn't in Jorges possession anymore. A groundskeeper who is working about a mile from where his apartment found the phone and it looks like he's just been tossed into this ditch kind of thing with this long grass and this guy said he found the phone like pretty recently like right after Diana went missing and he said he didn't have the passcode so he couldn't open it but a call had come in on it after he found it and he was able to answer that call and he said he was from a man who said that he was the owner of the phone but he told the guy. Listen I don't want it. You just keep it and the guy hangs up so now. Police have the phone but they can't unlock it without the security code. And they can't get the code unless they find Jorges but just as Jorges is looking like a prime suspect going on the run ditching. His phone really goes to speak with police because she thinks there's someone else that police need to be seriously considering as a suspect. This episode is supported by Progressive Progressive. 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Once they started living apart things got kind of contentious. Dad wants more time with the kids. He starts showing up unannounced and one day he drops in and says he wants to take Diana out but mom's like no she's in school. You can't just pull her out of school to go out to eat so he took the younger kids leaving Diana in school but then at the end of the day he never returned with them. Rita ends up tracking him down to Okeechobee Florida and she ends up filing a handwritten motion with a judge. That was recounted in the news. Press and here. But I'm GonNa have you read this? The motion says Martin took my kids said he was going to bring them back and he didn't. I was in Georgia. He took them to Ohio then to Okeechobee. Martin told me he got passports for my kids while he was in Ohio. I think he's going to take them to Mexico. Ultimately the judge denies the motion to have the kids return to read and he kind of basically says listen pretty much your only option is to take them back the way that he did so she does read. It ends up staying with her kids in Florida. Living in call your county at first where she met a re Bay and then the two later moved together to Fort Myers now after. This re emits that the relationship might have gotten a little bit better. Dad would come. He pick up the kids. He takes them to Okeechobee for the weekend here and there and he would always bring them back. So why would it change like just out of the blue and why only take Diana? Well you see the year before. Diana went missing. Her Dad had gotten deported. I guess his immigration status wasn't up to date and law enforcement found a bunch of weapons in his car. So the thinking was I believe that. He didn't have his weekends anymore to see the kids. So everyone's wondering like you know. Maybe he was desperate now as far as like why Diana no one knew but maybe it was just easier to get one kid into another country rather than three so police obviously have to look into this as a possibility even if they think they have better leads like Jorges because a big part of any investigation is not just finding the truth but also closing all the doors. That lead to other possibilities. If you leave things open ended. I mean. That's exactly the kind of thing that can come up in court and leave reasonable doubt for Jurors. The problem with posing this door though is that it's going to take a lot of time and effort. They can make phone calls and they do but dads saying like hey. She's not here doesn't do much. It was going to take months and months before they can actually get someone down to Mexico to check this out once and for all. I'm sorry months. This is a missing child. We don't have months to spare. Well you see. They take their time because in the very early days as they start learning more about or hey. It seemed more likely that he did have something to do with her. Disappearance and dad was just adore. That needed to be closed. Not Actually wear they were gonNA find Diana. They had to prioritize and one of the big things that made them think was their guy was his cell phone records records. Show that the night before Diana was reported missing. Jorges phone traveled from his home in Orlando. To Diana's home in Fort Myers and it was in the area of her home for about three hours between midnight and three A. M. Again. This is the morning that she was reported missing. Now the phone then left the and traveled to a specific part of Okeechobee. County called Yeehaw junction. Now Remember Oga Chubby is where he told rebate that he was going the mourning. Diana went missing but obviously he said that he was heading there from Orlando and not from her home in Fort Myers. Well interestingly what the record shows is that his phone stayed in Yeehaw junction for a couple of hours police or more and more sure that there is just something really wrong here and Jorges is their guy so they flood the media with his picture and make a second request for an amber alert on June. Second and this one this one four days later does get approved and when the alert goes out it does exactly what it was intended to do. I mean is he making it all the more frustrating that it wasn't done sooner but they needed some kind a break because the search around Diana's place had been called off the day before without finding anything but after this alert goes out. I mean within hours. His car is located and then a woman comes forward who will be the key to capturing this woman whose name is Antonia tells police that she was told to go pick a guy up now. There isn't a ton of information on this particular story. So don't have a lot of detail but it seems like it was kind of like a friend of a friend asking kind of thing like Hey. I need a favor. Can you give this guy? I know a ride but before she supposed to give this trainer acquaintance maybe someone. She kind of knows a ride. Her husband's sees this guy's very face on the news. So they call police and they set up this little sting operation. She shows up and picks him up just as planned but as soon as he closes the door and they take off driving down the main road police. Pull the car over an arrest or hey what did they arrested him for. Like was Diana wisdom was kidnapping not both. She wasn't with him and they weren't arresting him on anything related to Diana. He was undocumented so they were able to hold him on charges related to his immigration status but while they held him it allowed them to ask him important questions related to Diana. You know what are your whereabouts. The previous day's look. Let's get some information on your phone mostly questions about that phone. He willingly gives law enforcement the passcode. And what they find on the phone shocks even some of the most seasoned investigators in a password protected folder defined very graphic and sexually explicit images of child images that date as far back as two thousand fifteen or they. Diana police weren't saying according to an article from Michael Brown and Melissa Toy from the time police said the child in the images had not been identified and honestly. I don't know if they even could identify the child right away. Some reports I read about this finding on his phone suggests that the pictures were very close up images of body parts so it is possible at least in some of the images that may be a face wasn't seen which would make it harder to linked to a specific victim but Diana or not it was clear to authorities that bees pictures of someone underage and therefore it gave them something very solid now to charge him with so on June sixth. He's charged in court with possession of child pornography and he's held without bond. Okay just give me a second. I'm trying to piece this time together. You mentioned that the images on his phone went back as far as two thousand fifteen. Yeah did he even know Diana or her family then? Well yes in fact. He knew the family as far back as two thousand thirteen. What police learn. Is that some time back in two thousand thirteen Rita met while they were both migrant workers picking cabbage from what I can tell. They weren't like exceptionally close or anything but they knew each other well enough that after Rita moved her family to Fort Myers in two thousand fifteen whore hey reached out to a mutual friend named Mario and was like hey. Can you ask Rita if there's any work down where she lives and Rita says yeah? There's plenty of work. Whatever so he ends up coming down there he gets a construction job in Fort Myers and whore. Hey and his brother. Pablo actually move in then with the family. And that's when they rent that room from them in the trailer and then police get the bombshell that blows the case against wide open. Today's episode was brought to you by figs. Okay I I'm speaking for the entire world right now when I say that now more than ever. We truly see how awesome our healthcare workers are. They've been on the front line of this crisis and had faced it head on without a second thought to help. Keep US SAFE. 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Learn that the reason where he moved out of the families trailer is because basically he was kicked out of there by Diana's parents because of how he was acting with her and how she acted with him she was like a little puppy who followed him around and wanted to be near him all the time. And listen we've all been nine and we've all been in love with our Sunday school teacher or you know some adult male figure you get like heart emojis for those kind of like little. Crushes are natural but something about the way he showed affection back to. Diana didn't sit well with Rita and her boyfriend so they asked him to leave what Jorges revealed to police in custody was they were right to be uneasy and this is where. I cannot emphasize enough to parents. Trust your gut. Your job is not to be your kids friend. It's to keep them safe. And if you feel like something is wrong. There is a good chance it is because Jorges tells police and these are his words not mine that he had a relationship with Diana and starting in June. Two Thousand Fifteen. They began a sexual relationship and those photos on his phone were of her and were taken in December of that same year. No she was just eight years old when he abused her eight. And it wasn't just sexual abuse he was grooming her. They had been exchanging communications. I believe from a cell phone in her family's house and then messages would get deleted to ensure that her parents never found out. Oh my God. So do the police think. Diana went with him willingly. Like he didn't just snatch her out of her window or something so they never said that explicitly but I mean it's an easy puzzle to kind of put together with confirmation of sexual abuse and his phone being in the area than human missing. Police are more sure than ever that they're on the right track and they're convinced that the same way Hor he's digital trail led police to him. It will lead them to Diana. They renew their search efforts in June while Jorges imprison unwilling to cooperate in the search for Diana. This time they're searches aren't focused as much on the home but rather that area in Yeehaw junction. Where Jorges phone had stopped for so many hours that has to mean something officers keep thinking so they search and they search but heavy rains make? The search is difficult and day after day. They come up empty handed by June sixteenth. The search is called off without finding anything as the weeks pass read. It becomes more desperate for answers. A small part of her still holds out hope that her daughter is alive and if she's going to believe that part she has to believe that time is of the essence and so she does something that. I don't know if I could do on July fourteenth. She goes to the jail to meet with Jorges face to face to beg him to tell her where her daughter is. Not only will he not tell Rita where her daughter is. He tries to deny all of it. He says the pictures aren't of Diana. I never did anything to hurt. Already confessed that they were of her. Well so I'm pretty sure that at the time he'd only confessed to law enforcement and they hadn't told anyone yet. I mean at least that's my understanding so read a wouldn't have known when he's like straight up lying to her face he just tells Rita he loved her. He loved her family. So much would never have done anything to Diana and he actually just points the finger. Back at Rita's ex husband and said it must have been him. He took her. They have the wrong guy ultimately re- left that day with nothing. She tried to come back and see him again to beg him again but then he refuses to see her now. Around this time in July police released a nugget of information to the press because they need their help. They say that the day Diana went missing or his car broke down and they believe that people stopped to offer help so on July twenty first the Orlando Sentinel. Which is a newspaper. Released up where he lives closer to where the car would have broken down. They released a short piece saying that police are looking for a good Samaritan who stopped and who would have helped Jorges sometime between maybe six thirty and eight thirty in the morning and they believe that this person may have given him a ride to a gas station now around this same time. News press publishes an article stating that police. Were looking for another good Samaritan. This time a woman who stopped to help him but someone he wouldn't have accepted help from they're asking her to come forward because I assume they wanna know if she saw anyone with. Or Hey specifically probably did you see a young girl with him after those call out for witnesses. We don't really hear much more about this story in the press for a few months not until October with Jorges safely tucked away in prison waiting to stand trial for his child pornography charges authorities finally make it down to Mexico to visit Diana's father and close that door once and for all it feels a little bit like a formality. Because they do just this quick visit with him verify that she isn't there with him in the home but really without searching anywhere outside of the home and then they kind of just like pack up and ship out things kind of go silent again for a while and then just before the one year anniversary of Diana's disappearance things start heating up again as trial is for May of two thousand seventeen. And there's this flurry of activity surrounding his case in the months right before on. April third paperwork is filed with the court that finally tells the public for the first time that the photos on Hor. He's phone were in fact of Diana at about the same time searches are renewed in both the area where the car broke down and in yeehaw junction where his phone stationary for. So long. But again in both places they find nothing. Do you think that these searches kind of got initiated because of the anniversary or was there like tip you know? I honestly don't think it was either of those I mean. They're looking in the same places that they've already looked so I definitely don't think it's a new tip. I don't think they're just doing it because the anniversary is approaching. I think they're doing it because the trial was approaching you see worries. Attorney was fighting hard to suppress evidence in the child porn cases. Alex Cardona wrote a piece for news. Press that outlined the defense's strategy. They were actually trying to get all the pictures on his phone. Thrown out is evidence because they said that they were obtained illegally so I think they were desperate for anything else in case this went through. But how were the images obtained legally? Didn't he give them the pass code for his phone? Oh he did. I mean they even had a warrant to. It's not like they just like went in there but what his defense team said is that he had some kind of expected right to privacy for his phone and particularly for that password protected folder with the pictures in it and the prosecution says like Oh Beco- youth through that phone away into a ditch. And even if you want to say that it was an accident you cold the Guy who found it and told him that he could keep it so you gave up all right to privacy where he tries to combat that by saying well. I thought the phone was broken. I didn't toss it because you guys called me for an interview and spooked me. Which by the way is totally what happened. He said I thought it was broken so when I threw it away. I wasn't giving up my right to privacy. But then he calls it an confirms. It's not broken exactly. I know this is. It acted out like an episode of Perry Mason. But in my mind like I definitely imagine Perry being like Sir. I'd like to bring your attention back to the groundskeeper and he slowly gestures behind him. Like if you recall this man said you called him on your phone. Do you concede that this is true? And he's like yeah I do and in doing so. Do you admit that you knew the phone wasn't broken? And you gave up your right to privacy boom lawyer. Sure that's exactly how it went. You're totally right. We're all either way. They got him and the judge agrees that the pictures are in. But there's a catch. They can't bring up the fact that Diana is missing in his trial began. Have the pictures? They can even say that. The pictures are up Diane. They can't say that Diana's missing it took a long time to find a jury locally. Who wasn't already familiar with Diana's case and that she was a missing person but after a couple of days they settle on twelve people for a four day trial in those four days. Rita had to sit through what no parent ever should hearing detail after excruciating detail about the messages exchanged between her young daughter and this disturbed older man when all is said and done it took about thirty five minutes for them to render a verdict. And on what would have been Diana's tenth birthday may sixteenth two thousand seventeen they found Jorges Guerrero Torres guilty later that summer in August. Two thousand seventeen whore. Hey received his sentence forty years in federal prison. Now this is a victory for everyone involved but it's not a total win. These are still just child porn. Charges Diana is still missing and her mom won't feel vindicated until she knows her daughter as an Hori is held accountable for taking her away. But just when it seems like this is the best that they're gonNA get for justice. The case is flipped on its head. This episode was made possible by new. It's a weird time right now. You guys in my number. One goal is my happiness. I can't be too hard on myself and I don't need to use this time to get in the best shape of my life sometimes cookies. Make me happy so I have cookies. Sometimes wind makes me happy so I have wine and though I want to be happy and do the things that make me happy and eat the things that make me happy. I do want to keep a balance and maintain my health. Health is so important right now and that's why I love new. It's not about dieting. And it's not about giving you a list of things you can't eat it's about fitting into your regular every day life even when that life has been turned on its head so you can still have the things that make you happy but neum just helps me not go overboard and it helps me make better decisions. You don't have to change at all in one day. Small steps really do make big progress. Sign up for your trial today at noon. That's N. O. M. dot com slash crime junkie. What do you have to lose visit? Neum DOT com slash crime junkie to start your trial today. That's n o o m dot com slash crimes just a day after his sentencing the. Da Slaps Hor. Hey with two new felony charges in relation to the disappearance of Diana. He's charged with lewd or lascivious molestation civilian less than twelve and battery of a child. Now this isn't murder charges but at least it's something honestly. That's kind of a huge relief to me. I mean we look at the the Najah case that we did a couple of weeks ago along with Angie's case from Indianapolis and there was so much circumstantial evidence and it's Kinda refreshing to see law enforcement. Move on a case. Especially when it's a lot of just circumstantial stuff right. I mean and circumstantial stuff. It seems so clear. And they do a lot of circumstantial evidence. Not only do they have all the phone. Location record text messages the pictures on his phone the history with Diana but they also got some new witnesses in the year. Since Diana's disappearance particularly a man that we've mentioned before Mario who is Mario again so from earlier in our story. Mario was the like mutual friend. That actually reconnected Rita in Hor. Hey when he was helping her he find work in Fort Myers. Okay so everyone in the story is Kinda connected. Mario is actually Mary. To Rita's sister. Though Rita sister at the time was living in Mexico so Mario is able to fill in some pieces for police. He's around the time Diana disappeared. He gets a call from Pablo. Who's Hor he's brother? Pablo asked Mario for a favor. Hey my brother's car got in a crash and I need you to pick it up from the shop. He's gone. My brother can't do it. Because he's traveling Blah Blah Blah. Could you just do me a solid? So he does but he said there was something strange when he went to go. Pick up the car and thoat back to Okeechobee. Pablo asked he didn't see any signs of a crash. No damage like nothing. Messed up the only thing he noticed was that the bottom of the car was just like coated in mud. Like it had been off roading. Mario later told Melissa Montoya From News. Press that police interviewed him multiple times and even gave him a lie detector test. He said that he thought that they did that. Because they were looking for some kind of a complex that may be helped or hey either do what he did or to at least cover it up ultimately. Mario says that he had no idea what was going on or that. Or he even capable doing what he'd been accused and convicted of at that point. Hold up so he didn't get a call from horror he. He got a call from his brother. Pablo yes and Pablo who lived in the same trailer while whore. Hey was abusing Diana. Yes call me crazy. But could this be the accomplished? The police are looking for so your crime. Junkie brain is working a little bit like mine. Mario said that the two were always together. But I mean there have been zero. Formal allegations made against Pablo. And he doesn't come up a lot in reports about this case. I mean he really just gets like offhand. Mentions here and there so I don't know if anyone else has the same suspicions but either way. Mario was on the DA's witness list. And all of this could get brought into trial. But there's another witness that is even more damning to her hay a former jail cellmate named Juan in an article from WYNC News Dot Com from back in December. Two thousand seventeen. They summarized documents released by the Lee County Sheriff's Office. These documents said that Wall Jose and Juan were together. Jorges asked one how much time he would face for quote the murder charge. Now keep in mind. This is before he'd been charged with even the kidnapping stuff. He told his cellmate that he was probably going to get charged with rape kidnapping and murder and he went on one says to detail what actually happened on the day. Diana went missing according to one story. Whore he picked up Diana and was going to take her into Mexico but when he crashed his car everything changed and he thought he had to get rid of Diana before police showed up on the see what. Yeah no listen we know. Jailhouse informants are the end. All be all but it's a story that makes sense with everything. We know the broken down car the mud at the bottom of it but something about the story feels off to me remember. Mario said it didn't look like there was a crash is a bunch of mud on the bottom of the car. So we're to speculate for a second and say that it was the off roading. That actually stalled the car out. He would have only been going off road to do something to Diane and presumably to hide a body. And it's because of that that your car doesn't work but one story is kind of the opposite. He's saying that there was a crash and that's why he went off roading but if there was a crash the car broke down. Then you don't go to where you should go to the mud on the bottom. Your car does that make sense right. Basically it's the reverse order of how it should have happened. Yeah and I. I don't think I can fully piece it together because I have no real proof of what was wrong with the car. I mean maybe something else happened. Maybe the mud had nothing to do with it. I just pointed out to say that we still don't have the full story. And as the second anniversary started to approach whore he was still not saying a word to officials. It was starting to feel like the truth. Might never be known that the battery and Lewd Acts Charges were the best that the family was going to get but then on May third two thousand eighteen. This happens good morning everybody. We're here today to announce a couple of things. The first thing we want to announce is a grand. Jury has returned an indictment for first degree murder kidnapping and lewd or lascivious molestation against horror. Hey Manual Guerrero Tarez for the death of nine year old Diana Alvarez. We're standing here with our law enforcement partners. We want to give a huge thanks to the league. County sheriff's Office the FBI FDLE and the Department of Homeland Security in this case Lee County Sheriff's Office Detective Standing Beside me. All the sheriff's Office did a tremendous amount of hard work a thorough and extremely complete investigation on this case culminating in this grand jury indictment for the charge of first degree murder and the two other life felonies or office made the decision to convene a grand jury in this case with the help of law enforcement because we will not rest until we saw. Torres held responsible for what he did to this little girl. Wow so did they find her? No they actually didn't so the as moving forward with a no body case right well they were. It was a case that was going to take a long time to build. Many of the witnesses and people involved in the case were all over the country even in other countries so they were given a long time to kind of track everyone and get this to trial as nobody case. But in March of this year. Twenty twenty after almost four years of Diana being missing everything changed according to Fox forest digital team surveyors found Diana's remains in a wooded area of Yeehaw junction the same general place. That police had been searching so many times before she was there the whole time. Finding her there exactly where they presumed she would be only strengthened. Their case and prosecutors are now seeking the death penalty. Jorges pled not guilty and proceedings for the case. Were actually supposed to star in March but because of the Kovic nineteen outbreak. Everything's getting pushed and at the time of our recording. He's scheduled to be back in court. The day that this episode is supposed to Air April twenty seven two thousand twenty but honestly who knows if it won't get pushed farther back at this point but at least the twenty seventh or whatever date in the future there is hope hope for justice. And maybe that will provide even the smallest amount of peace to Diana's Family. It's so important to know the warning signs of grooming and child abuse and to know what to do if you see it. Darkness to light is a wonderful organization. That has a number of resources on this topic and you can visit them at D. Two L. DOT. Org You can also find a directly to them on our website along with pictures and source material for this episode. Just go to crime junkie. Podcast DOT COM and be sure to follow us on Instagram at crime. Jackie podcast and stick around for a puppet of the month story. Crime Junkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think? Chuck de Abreu. Okay Ashley so today. We have a very special puppet named Etta and she was submitted by her mom. Louisa and Louisa had been wanting to adopt a dog her entire life. Same but for a bunch of different reasons. It just was never the right time and I'd like to pause here and say to be fair. I can vouch for them being very different but I feel like dogs are kind of like having kids right time never going to be a perfect time so Louisa had just ended of super toxic relationship. That was times abusive a few years earlier and had been dating this really great guy the first guy she found after this terrible relationship she got out of only to have this guy break up with her she had moved for what she thought was her dream job but it turned out to be a complete nightmare and she felt like nothing in her life was panning out and she found herself getting increasingly depressed and she did but I think a lot of us. Do we get to that point. Look at pictures of dogs on the Internet and she came across this beautiful pit mix at a local shelter and knew that this was her dog. She contacted a shelter and lined up a meeting for later that week and was about five or six years old at the time and had just been rescued from Tijuana and it was super clear that she'd been used for breeding an already had like several litters of puppies. She'd been living on the streets and when she was taken to the vet the rescue it was discovered that all of her teeth were broken and a ton of them had to even be removed. A happen all of them are broken right. So based on the damage the vet speculated that she had broken her teeth while being caged and she had likely tried to bomb away the metal wires or Steinem completely destroyed her baby and later they found out that not only did ever have a bb lodged in her abdomen. She also suffered from and will continue to live with premature arthritis and a tick borne illness. Louisa was able to take that very evening. They I met in the park and despite having only known each other for a few hours immediately hopped up on the couch with Louisa and CUDDLED UP RIGHT LOVES TOUR. Or Sheet Petrin. They've been inseparable ever since and despite all her health troubles is a sweetest happiest dog. Loves kids babies which I think is like a pit thing like oh my gosh. They're obsessed such bad raps but they I have found. Pits are the most like cuddly lovable sweetest little babies. They are truly like the Teddy Bear dogs and no one can tell me any differently. She greets every person she meets with a wagging and a request for pets and even though it can still be really painful for her. She loves playing with other dogs. Louisa has done everything in her power to give the best life possible. Not only because of a rough start in life because even though Louisa adopted her on paper. Allah is really the one who rescued quick feet. We can I feel like every one of my stories ends like that. It's terrific real. Oh my God I love. Oh my gosh. Join us a picture of little. Be On our website Ashley. Can you describe me those years? You could take flight with those years. Oh my goodness. She's the cutest little black dog with a little bit of white on her pity pause in her belly just above her nose and she has. Yoda ears that. Just stick out lockdown and again. She's like the dog version of baby yoga to be like GonNa take fight with them. They are the cutest things I've ever seen literally. I got these pictures from Luisa and I responded to the email. Omg those ears hit. Send before he even said. I was like so focused on those adorable floppy ears. I still can't get over them. I give her a kiss on the nose for us. I love she. Needs all the BOOP. Flip flop her little ears and of course we're going to feature an adoptable puppet today as well and Ashley are listener. Joe Actually contacted you directly and you were super kind to forward that information me for the segment so two days adoptable prophet is daisy. She is a four year old German Shepherd Husky Mix. She's super calm. Which seems unlikely but she does look like the perfect lazy dog all the pictures I have. She's around seventy pounds but could stand to lose a few pounds which will be. She's super sweet friendly. Well behaved and his even completely house and create trained and our listener. Joe Is in around Atlanta Georgia and said that she would be able to help transport at least part of the way and even send supplies with these two forever home. She is currently fostering. Daisy needs to find her a home as soon as possible. Yeah it really liked touch my heart mitsubish out. She was like listen. I'm fostering these dogs and I can't keep them forever. They have to find the forever home. You guys have such a big reach like. Please just put that out there so I hope that anyone who lives in that area or surrounding area. Well at least take a peek. I mean the perfect time could bring appropriate into your home at pigs walks together. Yeah but actually I should mention you said dogs. There were two dogs but one already adopted. I only have daisy to feature today. Honestly like I'm thrilled about. I'd love to have no dogs needs to be adopted. 'cause they're all have loving homes but is still out there all of the information on her as well as how to contact our listener. Joe For more information and pictures of course will be on our website. Everyone go kiss your probably for me.

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Cynthia Alvarez and Giovanni Gallardo

Murder Minute

22:43 min | 1 year ago

Cynthia Alvarez and Giovanni Gallardo

"Townies towns citing news to share with you is already started we are launching a members only version of love dumb people town don't people town plus it's everything you already love about dumb people town with some special benefits to not only will be charged with mckinney's murderer are thirty nine year old Patrick Stallworth and his girlfriend twenty nine year old Derek Irish Brown the couple tips came in about an suv matching the description parked at a nearby apartment complex and those would eventually lead police to their suspects ashes her body would be found ten days later in a landfill inside a dumpster the cause and time of her death have not yet daughter Kelly Turner also known as Kelly gant convinced the public that her daughter was terminally ill and collected more than half a million dollars in Medicaid payments and charitable donations her daughter Olivia who died in two thousand seventeen age seven captured the hearts of many who fall ages and briefly stops where the children are playing as she walks out of the view of the camera the children follow after that Camille I need Gherardo but I your true crime headlines to people have been charged with murder in the with another child at a birthday party on October twelfth surveillance footage from the area shows the young girl playing outside with another small child when a man approached our health journey through blog posts by her mother documenting the young girls supposed terminal illness Olivia's body was exhumed two months after her death been determined other children who attended the birthday party told police that they saw a man put the girl in an SUV and drive away creatures on Himalayas plus download the Himalayas App to get these perks and early access to episodes the first five hundred subscribers will be entered found those charges were upgraded to capital murder of a child under the age of fourteen stallworth and Brown are both being held without bond and could face to win a five hundred dollar gift card welcome to murder minutes today. The story of Cynthia Alvarez and Yeovil an examiners were able to conclude that she had not suffered from a terminal illness and instead had been subjected to numerous unnecessary medical procedures the death penalty if convicted a Colorado woman facing murder and fraud charges related to the death of before we get to today's headlines were excited to invite you all to dig into bonus content engage with a murderer minute community and talk to show of an Alabama toddler who was abducted during a birthday party earlier this month three-year-old Camille cupcake mckinney was last seen playing identified as persons of interest and both were arrested at their apartment on unrelated charges one day after the child went missing after her body was over the course of her short and tragic life her mother has been charged with two counts of murder because Colorado law includes a special provision for their murder of a child under twelve by person in a position of trust she is also facing child abuse and fraud charges for swindling charities and Medicaid and dollars to a fund for Olivia care a statement by the make a wish foundation said in part as we seek to learn more about the circumstances McColl Montalvo was last seen dropping off her son at the home of his father and grandparents she was supposed to pick up her son from school the next day but never showed up is that led to Olivia's death we fondly remember her spirits and hope that granting her wish brought some joy to her tragic life police in Florida are searching for twenty eight year old woman who was reported missing after she failed to pick up her son from school deputies say that her Jacob Ruis told reporters that mantos disappearance is suspicious and they will not leave any stone unturned they search for her police were actively sir out of more than half a million dollars in payments go fund me intends to issue refunds to the one hundred and sixty donors who contributed more than twenty thousand salvos estranged husband with whom she has a history of domestic violence is not cooperating with investigators but is not in custody at this time get all that extra stuff once you do it now yes our loyal listeners we love you townies his widow bump it up to the next level those were your true crime headlines next the story of Cynthia Alvarez and Giovanni Gagliardi her family says that this behavior is completely out of character for Montalvo who they described as a very responsible mother Osceola county sheriff's made the best part is you'll have that sweet sweet satisfaction knowing you're supporting our show does people Tom Plus is available on our favorite podcast APP and it is my opinion Oh but first a quick break Jane Doe Number Sixty five at least go to Himalayas search that Himalayas APP download it it's free listening all your podcast Himalayas then become a member of people town at five dollars a month and of her ankles her legs were bound with duct tape her wrists were tied up in a Bungee cord and a towel secured with more tape covered her face corners report an autopsy showed signs of blunt force trauma and strangulation what had happened to this woman meanwhile police that's the name of the coroner's office gave the woman on October Fifteenth Two thousand eleven police found her decomposing partially burned body after jogger reported a foul smell near an abandoned house in Norwalk a densely populated suburb of Los Angeles on a crisp fall morning about were notified of a missing person who would soon learn was intimately connected to the case the day before Jane does body was discovered fifty one year old ching the five Acre property where Montalvo estranged husband and parents lived the property includes a pond several structures and an RV monitor dumb people town then click become a member is just five dollars a month and you can join up and get those episodes early them at freak at extra content that's what we want you to get I get my I get all my podcast I love Himalayas all you have to do is download the Himalayas at h. m. a. l. a. y. a. in search Ford he said he had seen Jose's truck parked near the local homedepot Blanca drove to the home depot and found the truck but any relief was momentary the windows Jose Laura hadn't shown up for work or call to say he'd be away or even late. This was atypical for the hard working man who held down multiple jobs five foot two inches tall and average build and asked that anyone who had information about the case contact the homicide bureau according to a two days later her identity remained a mystery multiple news reports describes the woman as Latina around age forty but then the deputy found something in the living room that would break the case open a notebook flipping through the pages he saw several law she said she knew nothing about her mother having is surgery she also mentioned that her parents had major issues with her younger sister Cynthia's relationship with her boyfriend family and friends led investigators to two suspects whose names were kept private at first because of their ages they were the couple to support his family concerned when he failed to return her calls his boss Blanca Serrano drove to Jose's home two days later no one the neighbor also describes something peculiar she said she had spotted Cynthia throwing what looked like tools and photos in the trash another neighbor now she was starting to worry about her mother maybe Jose had lied about taking her to the hospital she speculated had he heard her mom as for why large handwritten phrases and black marker I am too scared I cannot do it do you think you can kill her in bed what about if she's Tom pointing out the pages with those incriminating phrases like do you think you can kill her in bed can you kill her Alvarez admitted down and there was no sign of Jose now she was concerned enough to call the police the next day three days after Jane does body was found in l. a. actioning she told deputies a story that she later shared with Gerardo she said her mom was hospitalized for an eye surgery and had requested no visitors and that I answered the door but a neighbor told Lanka that Jose's teenage stepdaughter Cynthia Alvarez said that Jose had taken her mom to the hospital for an eye procedure after she confided in him that Jose had raped her she said she liked the idea of killing them but at the same time didn't she was disposing of what turned out to be her mother's belongings not just tools and photos in the trash she said had pulled a gun on her and Gerardo Force Sheriff visited the home of Cynthia and her parents Jose Laura and Gloria routine at the alte there are no signs of forced entry but police reports just one problem with what she had described we found a notebook he read Alvarez her Miranda Rights and revealed the book they'd found in the her father as a rapist she said that she and Geyo had discussed killing her parents for weeks yard I brought it up I she said she returned inside to see her mother's body on a bedroom floor tied up with duct tape when her stepfather Jose returned shortly after the notebook and messages were hers then shared a completely different story one that painted her boyfriend as the instigator turned murderer and Jose a fifteen year old daughter Cynthia Alvarez and her sixteen year old boyfriend Giovanni Gherardo when police brought Alvarez in for them to trash her mother's things if they didn't follow his orders he threatened that one of them would die after hearing her story investigators said that there was in the neighborhood had seen Jose Gloria or Cynthia in several days on the surface the scene looks like a robbery grabbed the home as completely ransacked and stinking rotten food striking Erie contrast to the Halloween decorations that were hung about and no one she said he left to talk to a neighbor when he returned go Jarido hit him in the head twice with a baseball bat then seven more times once he was unconscious wasn't large enough for both bodies she said so they did away with Jose's body in a similar fashion near an abandoned house after taking and selling parts into her bed can you kill her she is setting down do it. When police spoke to Gloria's older daughter twenty nine year old Diana Yalta stabbed him over and over again until he was dead then dragged his body near Gloria's that evening she said they dragged the bodies in glorious? Suv drove it several blocks away dug a hole placed her mother's body inside and covered it up with dirt the story well stories were very similar he started sharing the hospital story the one in which Gloria had surgery and Jose threatened them with about murdering their parents for a couple of weeks on the day of the murders he showed up at the House with a backpack containing baseball bat towel rubbing alcohol Inner Mongolia Ardo arrived to the home around seven thirty pm Alvarez said she went outside while Guy Yard killed Gloria using alcohol clutching the towel which he had soaked in rubbing alcohol he placed over the woman's mouth until she collapsed then strangled her with his hands assuring from him required the same day the two were interviewed. Investigators searched Alvarez is home finding bloodstains on us then he filled the man's nose and mouth with alcohol when Jose started coming to Alvarez told police Gagliardi he said they chatted watch TV while they waited for Jose to come home at some point looking for an ipod Gloria had taken from Alvarez he affected his family and called the cops on him he wanted to get revenge he said so he killed them both like Alvarez he said the two had talked awfully as though in surrender then said that he was angry with his girlfriend's parents he said Jose not only raped her but threatened him disres- couch the floor and a mop the also found a Halloween mask and party supplies empty jewelry boxes and a backpack and the daily followed through with our plot she said a Jarido suggested they killed both of her parents and that she responded no her mom was in the kitchen cooking of Jose truck they parked in a home depot parking lot and left it there they left glorious jeep somewhere else yard meanwhile she sat where she could see him and write messages to him on the notepad detectives would later find she said she wrote abandoned their cars but his story differed greatly in an important way he described Alvarez as a very willing participant nope pointing out other evidence very matter of fact and Jane Doe Number Sixty five was identified as Gloria for Tina v Alta she is setting down to let him know her mother was sitting in the kitchen and I am too scared because she feared Gerardo Hall and a Halloween mask as Alvarez stepped into the bathroom she told him to go go quick so he approached Gloria from behind he tried as adults at the trial Alvarez took the stand testifying that her boyfriend had talked about killing her parents but that took a gold bracelet from glorious body he too said he killed Jose by hitting him with a baseball bat and then stabbing him before they buried the bodies one but a deputy stopped him letting him know they had already heard that story from Alvarez and had the real story go yard oh custom see it in front of her face because she might have flashbacks during cross examination she agreed with the prosecution when they asked her if she actually wrote those suggest because she thought it would be easier to kill her mother while she was asleep that she was instructing him with those words you're by fields sat the bloody baseball bat used on Jose soon after the interviews Gerardo led investigators to Jose's body Alvarez and Gherardo were charged and arrested for the murders and although both were under eighteen at the time of the crimes they would she claimed that when she wrote if she's going to bed can you kill her because she didn't want to see what he was doing to her and she didn't think he was quote that type of person she said he showed up at her family's home the day of the murders wearing a black mask told her nice shy quiet polite and corroborated her claims about the physical and sexual abuse she endured according to an alley defense attorney Carol Telfer told jurors that her mother essentially kept her as a slave for her personal use Alvarez estimated she said she did not want or encourage anyone to kill them numerous witnesses testified on behalf of Alvarez describing her as Jose had touched her inappropriately more than thirty times and four or five years before the murderers raped her despite all of this Ardoz History of violence and aggression toward her she alleged that he had hit and choked her called her names and pulled her hair and that weeks before and those Halloween decorations with her mother's body in the back of the car she testified she and Yaro shopped for supplies for a party they planned planned to kill her parents and again that she said no he stayed outside for a while she added until she invited him inside where he hid in a storage room or the murders he held a knife to her throat during an argument at one point she said he forced her to swallow pills that made her feel weird than raped her while she he couldn't do anything about it and said he always told me if I ever did anything he would come and hurt me again yard oh and Jose you weren't the only abusers in her life she testified stating that her mother had yelled at her and seldom let her spend time with her friends her boyfriend included the have in the very place. Her parents were killed still Alvarez testified that she acted entirely out of fear speaking signs of having antisocial personality disorder in other words that she wasn't displaying patterns of manipulating people or a lack of remorse kids often feel valueless helpless making them more vulnerable to additional abuse and domination by others she said Alvarez showed and police records. Finding that Alvarez had a verbal I q of eighty-six putting her in the lowest fourteen th percentile for her age other tests for one of the most heinous acts one can commit acts that ended a two lives and tragically impacted many more times article published the week of the trial Alvarez's sister Diana told the court with the help of a Spanish language interpreter that Alvarez looked after her mother because their brains aren't fully developed teams have a much harder time comprehending consequences than adults and are far more likely to act impulsively indicate that she was depressed suffered from child abuse and perceived herself as damaged this was important for her case Dr Kaser Boyd explained because Abused Neuro Science Research published and current opinion and neurobiology showed that teens heightened vulnerability to reward is what drives risky behaviors studies also show that teen offenders are better able to rehabilitate and not commit crimes again given proper care but these two teams were tried as adults. The prosecution argued the opposite showing police interview video that revealed a two sides of Alvarez the demure side she showed to investigators which they can this has been murder minutes for true crime anytime down though the each doctor Nancy Kaser Boyd a forensic psychologists interviewed Alvarez conducted a series of tests and reviewed her school carrying more about the Halloween Party planned then Gloria and Jose's lives either way that they were teenagers had to have played a

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Ignore The Naysayers and Start Claiming Your Desires

The Unstoppable Woman®

38:10 min | Last week

Ignore The Naysayers and Start Claiming Your Desires

"Sometimes you have to do what you need to do. Despite what everyone else is saying and you must be persistent to what you know is the truth the thinking yourself into exponential results series on podcast comes to you every saturday and takes but we discuss in the morning mindset cloud compiles into one easy to access reporting and gives you some killer bonus content at the end. That's not to be missed an only available here. So let's dive right in good morning. I'm a mirror alvarez and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club so to finish out this chapter on decision. I want to read you. This one sentence those who reach decisions promptly indefinitely know what they want in generally get it so important. If you don't know what you want you won't know how to make your decisions but if you do what you want and again desires. Causative you will make decisions in alignment with that and then you will generally get it but if you know what you want. And then you have subconscious blocks that tell you to believe things that are not the truth of who you are and how the world works. You will start second guessing yourself and you'll get in your own way and you will create indecision so desires only part of it then. You must practice stepping into decision so with that very quick teaching. We're going to wrap the chapter on decision. And i will see you in the next episode where we start chapter nine on persistence. Which is one of the most powerful chapters in the whole book. Good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm amirah alvarez in we are starting chapter nine today on persistence. The sustain effort necessary to induce faith. The eighth step towards riches hill says persistence is an essential factor in the procedure of transmuting. Desire into its monetary equivalent. The basis of persistence is the power of will willpower and desire when properly combined. Make an irresistible pair. So let's pause there for a moment. The will is often miss understood. The will is your ability to keep focused and concentrate your effort. It's not struggling to push yourself. It's not the ground grinded out that that is a force force. Negates will is your ability to concentrate and focus your attention and your efforts on what you desire on what you wished to accomplish. What's right in front of you and when you combine that with desire it's very powerful will Hill says it's an irresistible pair. He goes on to say men who accumulate great fortunes are generally known as cold blooded and sometimes ruthless often. They are misunderstood what they have is willpower which they mixed with persistence and place. Back of their desires to ensure the entanglement of their objectives. So what he saying here is that they have that focus concentrated effort mixed with since meaning. They are going to not quit. They're going to stick with it. They're gonna keep going. They're going to find a way. And they're putting those two things behind their desire meaning underneath foundational supporting their desire holding up their desire the energy behind their desire to ensure the attainment of their objectives now hill has a talent cise the word ensure he's emphasizing that word. He's saying that you must have persistence and will behind your desire. Those three things to ensure the attainment of your objective. Now here's where people get in the way a little bit. They want it now. But you must have. Persistence was means one. It doesn't happen now. You don't quit you don't give up. You stay focused. You stay committed to your desire. You stay persistent with it. When you get in the habit of that you will learn how to call things in create the manifest them so much quicker but i is or spiritual seeds and we do not know how long it takes for that idea to come into manifestation until you have the experience built up to say so to determine so a new idea for you. You won't know how long it will take and therefore it requires that you stay persistent. So where do you need to increase your focus. Your will where do you need to stay persistent. We will be asking you that question again and again as we move through this chapter on persistence. Hello hello and welcome to another episode of the morning mindset club. I'm amir alvarez and let's get started we are in chapter nine on persistence. The sustained effort necessary to induce faith in the eighth step towards riches. We started off this chapter and we saw that men who accumulate great fortunes are generally known as blooded in sometimes ruthless. They are often misunderstood and hell goes on to say that henry ford has been generally misunderstood to be ruthless and coldblooded this. Misconception grew out at forts habit of following through in all of his plans with persistence. So are you willing to be misunderstood. Are you willing to be the recipient of other people's judgments. Sometimes you have to do what you need to do. Despite what everyone else is saying and you must be persistent to what you know is the truth. Have faith in that. Stick with your decision and complete it. Are you willing to quite frankly suffer through the judgment from others. Most people aren't most people would cave. If enough people said they were wrong to pursue something they were wrong to continue in a particular fashion. So you know this is just an interesting question to ask yourself. Hill goes on to say the majority of people are ready to throw their aims and purposes overboard and give up at the first sign of opposition or misfortune. Is that you. How quickly do you give up. Stop say it's not working get frustrated. Get resentful get annoyed. Get irritated stomp off through a little tantrum. I'm saying this from a place of experience with all of these things. I have noticed that. As i have gone from being new and business to growing my business quite significantly that i had to learn how to manage my emotions manage my mindset and not go into throwing my hands up in frustration and responding with a little bit of a tantrum if you will sure everyone has bad days. Sure things are gonna happen. But how are you going to respond. Are you gonna let it throw you off course or are you going to be persistent and in this case i'm talking about being persistent with managing your mind. Are you going to manage your responses. How you think about your experiences when there is misfortune or opposition small or large. You must step forward with persistence in that is a learned habit. That's a learned behavior. What can you do today to increase your level of persistence do that thing. Take that action be that person. Be unstoppable. hello. Hello i'm amir alvarez and welcome to another great day with the morning club we are in the chapter on persistence. In hill says there may be no heroic connotation to the word persistence but the qualities to the character of man. What carbon steel. So it's essential is what he's saying that the building of fortune only involves the application of the entire thirteen factors of this philosophy. He speaking about this philosophy that he's outlining in this book. Thinking grow rich. These principles must be understood. They must be applied with persistence by all who accumulate money. That means you keep at it. You keep bettering your best you keep referring back to them and asking yourself. Am i doing this. Am i living up to this standard. How could i better my best. How can i actualize this more in my life. Not with a guilt and shame. If you haven't lived up to your expectations but with a neutral evaluation wherein you say. I could better my best here in. This is what i'm going to do. He goes on. Say if you are following this book with the intention of applying the knowledge it conveys your first test as to your persistence will come when you begin to follow the six steps described in the second chapter in less. You are one of the two out of every hundred who already have a definite goal at which you are aiming an indefinite plan for attainment. You may read instructions and then pass on with your daily routine never and never comply with those instructions. The authors checking you up at this point because lack of persistence is one of the major causes a failure. Moreover with thousands of people has proved lack of persistence is a weakness common to the majority of men. It is a weakness which may be overcome by effort. The ease with which lack of persistence may be conquered will depend entirely upon the intensity of one's desire so several things here. If you do not know what we are speaking about here in terms of the steps the steps outlined in chapter two of course you can go back and read this yourself in thinking grow rich but i would also encourage you to sign up for the morning mindset club and get the teachings on this once you sign up you will have access to all the materials that we've put out from the get. Go on this on this book. And there's some significant teachings that you won't want to miss and that is yours to access but you have to take action on that. Okay you can find that link on our free stuff page which is the unstoppable woman dot com slash. Free stuff okay. He also says here. The author is checking up checking you up at this point. That's a funny way of saying it. And and he saying hey look. Are you doing what's necessary. You gotta do. What's necessary and you have to be persistent in doing that. And he says that the ease with which lack of persistence may be conquered will depend entirely upon one's upon the intensity of one's desire. How badly do you want it guys if you want it badly enough and you are willing to step forward in faith. Meaning you've not experienced outcome phoning those six steps yet so you don't know that they work and how well they work. You must trust. You must have faith. You must do it anyways in faith. If you want it badly enough you must do that because these steps work so go back. Listen to chapter to stay in persistence with it. If you fall off the horse forgive yourself instant forgiveness and get right back on the horse doing those six steps. Hello hello and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm amirah alvarez and let's get started so he'll says here in this chapter on persistence that the starting point of all achievement is desire which is absolutely true. If you don't want it badly enough you won't pursue it you won't be persistent in desire is causative. It's what's going to call you forward and start the engines. So keep he says. Keep this constantly in mind. We desires bring week results. Just as a small amount of fire makes a small amount of heat if you find yourself lackey and persistence. This weakness remedied by building stronger. Fire under your desires. Oftentimes people have the reasonable or practical desire. That's not going to build enough heat. That's not going to get you going enough. Often times people have conceptions of what they think they should do based on what the culture says. What based on what their family says based on what they think is going to be safe. And it's not infused with enough desire. It's going to have a week fire so make sure that your goal is so infused with the truth of what you want that. It has a strong enough fire under it. He'll goes on to say if you find that you are indifferent you may be sure that you have not yet acquired the money consciousness which you must possess before you can be sure of accumulating fortune. Okay so he saying if you are in different if you don't really want it if you could leave it or take it take it or leave it. Then you haven't acquired the money consciousness that you must possess which means the desire for the thing for the money before you can accumulate the fortune okay. Money consciousness has to do with everything in this book has to do with like the persistence of going after it. Fortunes gravitate to men whose minds have been prepared to attract them. that's money consciousness. Everything that you're learning in this program in these episodes will help you. Attune your mind and change your way of being an thinking so that you are able to attract what you want. He says in this book maybe found all the stimuli necessary to attune any normal mind to the vibrations which will attract the objects of one's desires. You must build your consciousness of how to do that by studying the principles of this book this will give you the consciousness unietd to attune your mind to creating the income that you desire so with that. Have you studied this. Do you have an elevated money consciousness. Do you understand how to create money. Not keep listening if you do keep listening to because you can always raise your level of awareness. Every single time. I read this book. I raised my level of awareness. And i raise my money. Consciousness do not stop. Keep bettering your best. Keep raising your awareness. Keep expanding your money consciousness. Don't blow it off be persistent good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset clip. I'm a mirror alvarez and let's get started with this next section in the chapter on persistence sue. Pay attention to this. This is one of the most important paragraphs in the whole entire book hill says poverty is attracted to one who's mind is favorable to it as money is attracted to him whose mine has been deliberately prepared to attract and through the same loss. Poverty consciousness will voluntarily sees the mine which is not occupied with money consciousness. A poverty consciousness develops without conscious application of habits favorable to it. The money consciousness must be created to order unless one is born with such a consciousness. Okay let's break this down. So poverty is attracted to one who's mind is favorable to it. These are the subconscious programming the the beliefs that you hold in your sub-conscious your identity your self esteem. The image that you have of yourself and how the world works all of that creates poverty consciousness if it's not creating wealth consciousness or money consciousness must deliberately prepare your mind unless you were born with money. Consciousness and few people are some are but few people are. You must deliberately prepare yourself your mind your subconscious which works day and night helping you achieve the goal you set it but if the goal that's been set is poverty. You're in big trouble and you need to even have you want something else you will need to create a different subconscious belief and prepare yourself to achieve it by continuously preparing your mind and focusing it on your goals and plans and this is what he lays out in chapter two which we've already discussed and it is your job to consistently and deliberately consciously prepare yourself to occupy your mind with that not with poverty. Consciousness now nature nature of vacuum. So if you are not feeding your mind with exactly what you want. Consistently every single day it will get filled. With all the business of life it will get filled with the miscellany and the being in the weeds and the busy work. Also what. I've just articulated which is the poverty consciousness. The believes that. Say you can't do it you can't have it. It won't work you. you aren't allowed to. You must be limited. You should be afraid you need to be in scarcity. There isn't enough so you must investigate. Here this is a habit to things here. You must investigate. You're thinking do you reject money. Do you have conflicting feelings about it. Do you think it's a zero-sum game if you make money it's taking from others. Do you believe that it's a limited universe. Not an expanding university feel like money is going to shrink and go away or that it's ever expanding and there's more for everyone. What are your beliefs about money. Do you believe that it makes you greedy in a bad person. All of that the negative side of those those questions if you answered that truthfully you have to recognize that you have poverty consciousness. Don't make yourself wrong about about that. Don't guilt or shame yourself but do change it. Make sure that you start programming yourself for success. Programming yourself for wealth for for making money and you must do that deliberately and habitually so deliberately means consciously with focus and doing it daily consistently habitually. That's why this paragraph is in the chapter on persistence. You must keep your goals your financial goals and any other goal that you're going for present daily otherwise your mind will be filled with other things. This is how you change from poverty. Consciousness to wealth consciousness and it doesn't happen overnight. You must have persistence here. And if you've fallen off the horse and you've lost sight of your goals just get right back at it. Good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm a mirror and let's get started. We are in the chapter persistence. And we just discussed how you must keep your goals present. And you must persistently look at them morning and night so that you create a wealth consciousness and money consciousness in you. Don't let the habit of poverty consciousness slip right back in there with out your conscious agreement. It is so easy for that to happen because of the years of programming and the generalized belief structure of our culture and who we were raised by and our habitual ways of thinking that are embedded in our beliefs in our subconscious and our self image. And he'll says here if you've ever experienced a nightmare you will realize the value of persistence. You're lying in bed half awake with a feeling that you are about to be smothered unable to turnover or to move a muscle. You realize that you must begin to regain control over your muscles through persistent of will power. You finally managed to move the fingers of one hand by continuing to move your fingers. You extend your control to the muscles of one arm until you can lift it. Then you've gained control of the other arm in the same manner you finally gain control over the muscles of one leg and then extended to the other leg then with one supreme effort of. Will you regain complete control over your muscular system and snap out of your nightmare and the trek has been turned step by step. You may find it necessary to snap out of your mental inertia through a similar procedure. Moving slowly at first then increasing your speed until you gain complete control over your will be persistent. No matter how slowly you may at first have to move with. Persistence will come success. So this is an argument for sticking with it if you have fallen off the horse if you've lost sight of your goals if you've done it for week and then went on to some new sparkling object right bright shiny object. Just go right back to. It don't beat yourself up. That's a waste of energy but do set yourself up for success. How are you going to do better this time. This is about bettering your best a little bit at a time. He saying. Just keep with it. Be persistent this is how you build your willpower. This is how you build your focus. This is how you build your wealth consciousness so you must consistently look at your goals. You must be persistent about it. And he must going now. It's not just persistence with your reading of your goals and visualizing and seeing them and keeping them present but it's persistence with all the hard things in life. There will be hard things that you have to do. In order for you to grow and become more and step into success. It's true you will have to do hard things you will have to grow by definition. You have not done the things you need to do. In order to get the success the you want so therefore you must grow yourself and there's always tension in the growth. There will always be a discomfort there. If you're growing quickly that discomfort is going to be a little bit bigger than if you're growing slowly stick with it. Turn by turn. stay in the game. Do not give up on yourself. What is the thing that you need to focus on today and stay persistent in. It may be that challenging thing. You may want to give up. You may want to say you're too tired for you. Might wanna say you're sick. You may want to say there's too many other things. I don't have time. this is more important. I have to do this for someone else. Look at your stories. Look at your excuses look at your rationalizations and recognize it for what it is a distraction and use your power of focus to do the thing that is most challenging for you right now and stay persistent that for the bonus content of this episode. I want to go back to this concept that willpower and desire when properly combined make an irresistible pair and that will using your will or willpower is not the same thing as forcing because force negates. You can use force but you're going to actually be working at counter purposes to yourself. Do you sometimes have to push through your resistance absolutely and it becomes a very interesting challenging nuance to figure out. You must learn the discernment here because force does in fact negate however persistence. Doing the thing that you know you need to do that is challenging for you now because you haven't grown into the level of awareness competency knowledge Attuned mint with Mastery of the thing that you're doing it's going to take a minute. Could be a long minute for you to get to that level. In in that time. You will need persistence. But that doesn't mean that you have to be swimming up. Hell when you feel that that struggle that monkey on back you need to recognize that if you start forcing things force negates now this does not mean that. You don't need to put the effort in you do need to put the effort in. You must do something different to have your breakthrough in that requires think differently and that you act differently but clearly there's effort involved. You must grow to that next level of mastery in order to do so you must put in the effort. This is how you're going to build your self worth. This is how you're gonna build your capacity capacity this how you're gonna build your mastery and get to the next level and and you need to know that their actions that you need to take to have that breakthrough okay. So how do you have that breakthrough without using force okay. This has everything to do with the energy behind your actions so we can be persistent with a great attitude a can do attitude a hustle in jam. I'm moving quickly. But i'm also in flow okay. I'm i am going i am. I'm moving quickly. i am jamming. I'm i'm you know going on all cylinders but i have an attitude not just of gratitude but of expansion of like bring it on. Yes i can. This is what i've been put here on this earth to do this might be challenging. But i know that in order to get to the next level i have to grow so i am going to engage in this with an open heart open mind and in just jam on it and do it. That's the energy want opposed to the monkey on my back. This is so freaking hard. Strive push energy. You want to be going with the flow so to speak now. The flow of the universe says in order to have something of a higher nature. You must be someone of a higher nature you actually have to to to be and do things at higher nature and that's going to require you to change so you can speak to yourself and say hey i know what i want. I know that. I need to take these actions to get there. I need to be persistent in that. And i i know i need to be someone for whom this is easy so i am going to choose right now to make this easy. How you do that yet. Changed your attitude. You change your attitude you fall in love with what you're doing you stop saying to yourself. This is so hard. I hate this. Why do i have to do this. I don't wanna do this. This is a waste of my time. This is too much effort. There's got to be an easier way blah blah blah blah blah. You fall in love with the thing that's causing you to grow and you embrace it. Okay now you also. This is where desire comes and you also have to make sure that you are clearly and cleanly and wholly embracing your desire. You must embrace your desire fully and not have any double binds around it or blocks around achieving in an oftentimes you one does and that's a giant blogging spot for the person for you. You consciously know that you want something but in consciously you're making that a priority but there's something in your subconscious programming that is blind to you. That's the nature of blind spots. They are blind to you that that is keeping you at cross purposes with executing that with fully embracing your desire so for a very simplistic one would be. You wanna make six figures. You wanna make seven figures. You have a financial goal but then you have this belief subconsciously that know rich people the only way to make lots of money is to do things unethically like rich people are crooks you heard that growing up and you don't even know that that's running in your subconscious until you do some practices to unpack that and then you see it and then you can say well. That's not true. No longer believe that and fully embrace your desire. That's a bit of a simplistic example. Usually the blind spots are quite a bit more complicated than that. But i wanted to give you something to think about right now so the to ask yourself around this. Are you conflicted on any level. With the the the desire that you hold the goal that you're going for the thing that you want to achieve and i would suggest that you do whatever it takes to change your beliefs so that you can embrace your desire that's required and then number two is you must take different actions even in the face of the habitual fear of changing. Okay that's gonna feel hard at first like a grind. The trick is to do it anyways and to have a great attitude while you're doing it that requires choice you will all of you will want to go into habitual bitching and moaning but instead you have to choose and say no. I'm in love with this. I'm in love with the growth. This is this. Is what i crave and i'm going to leave you with one. Final thought here. And this comes from albert gray who wrote an amazing Treaties on this treatise on this that in order to really be successful. Okay an end to really go to the next level in your life and your business that the common denominator of success the secret of success of every individual. Who has ever been successful lies. In the fact that he or she formed the habit of doing things. That failures don't like to do. This is why you have to be unstoppable. You don't have to use force. You don't have to do it with struggle. You can embrace it and say i am forming the habit of doing the thing that failure failures refused to do. Is that getting up early. Is that keeping your commitments is doing sales. Is that doing outreach. Is that being visible at a different level. What is it that you are refusing to do. And what is it that successful people don't refuse to do. And how can you make that habit and therefore be persistent without negating with force okay. That's what i've got for you. Today have amazing day rocket out band. Stoppable and i can't wait to join you in the next episode take care. Hey are you loving this. 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Two new feathered dinosaurs

I Know Dino: The Big Dinosaur Podcast

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Two new feathered dinosaurs

"Hello and welcome dino. I'm Gary in today's as podcast is brought to you by our store. You can get all sorts of dinosaur merchandise featuring different dinosaurs. One of them is our logo and all that stuff. toughest bit dot L. Y. Slash. I Know Dino store and there's a link in the show notes to this week in our two hundred seventieth episode. We have a bunch of news including Canoe Alvarez rid and a new micro wrapped our een so a lot of new small dinosaurs but still ferocious and a ton of museum news and we also have dinosaur of the day. Strew Theo Minas as well as our fun fact which is about Alvarez sewers spoiler alert but before we tell that we always like to thank our patrons the driving force behind I know dino without whom we could not make the podcast so we really appreciate y'all and this week. We'd like to thank Scotty. Megan Dixon Kessler Rhino source. Morgan e Kloof Reza Kelly Manda Laura Soroush Timmy. James Pascoe Gabe. TRX dinosaurs and Michael yet. Thank you so much as Garrett mentioned this group is the reason we can keep doing the podcast so we really appreciate it and we're coming up with new ways to make our community on Patriot more exciting being so stay tuned working on our annual survey. Now where will ask for feedback on. What other potential things people might be interested in seeing from US yes and yes the surveys late but better late than ever? It's not late. And we'RE GONNA put it out exactly when we intend to if you want to join this growing community though of dinosaur enthusiasts then go to our page a patriot dot com slash dino again. That's Patriot dot com slash. I Know Dino I K. N. O. W. D. I N. O.. Yeah that's where you get all the good stuff the good stuff. That's not available just through the regular podcast and jumping into the news. We have our first new dinosaur. This is an Alvarez sorted it was published in scientific reports by some gin we and others and in it they describe actually several Alverson specimens a quick reminder. Our swords are those approximately chicken sized is dinosaurs with basically a single claw on each wing. But really it's more of like just a stump cloth looked funny. Yes it looked very funny especially in the mail art you can see how ridiculous it looks the more I look at them. Though I start to think that they look more like roadrunners because they had pretty long legs and they're Kinda gangly Gli and then they have basically no wings. Just like how roadrunners pretty small arms too so that might be an easier way to think of them then thinking of a chicken. But either way Alvarez hordes are mostly from South America and Asia and this one is no exception. It's from Mongolia. It was actually found in the two thousand eight Korea. Mongolia Elia International Dinosaur Expedition and during that expedition they found a small bone bed which is quote unquote less than half a meter square. which makes it about five five square feet so yes it is very small but in that small area there was a ton of dinosaur material to go through last last year? They named Gobi Raptor from that collection of bones. There was also quote at least two other larger undescribed unquote over after. It's found in that five square foot area share that'd be describing it later. Yes and then there are three alver swords for a total of at least east sixth theropods just in that little five square foot area wonder what brought them all together. Probably dying would be my guest. Well like they got buried together for one reason or another but yeah it's a good question. Were they alive together doing something community behaving with. At least three we different species and be super weird but stranger things have happened for sure. This paper in particular is all about three new Alvarez Sword Specimens one of the Alvarez swords was assigned to Monica's which you're probably familiar with. It's one of the best known. If not the best known our sorted it was the first one described with a good arm on it. Which is why hasn't may Monica's for one claw and in this case they mostly just found in articulated leg and foot of the modern ankus Casse so they don't have any of the awesome claw and in fact none of the Alvarez or is that they found had any clause or arms which is Kinda power because that's the coolest part of our swords but the other two? Our swords specimens are a new dinosaur. That they named they named it. The MECHTA Nike's CDs and the Mechta Nike's comes from Next for the neck formation where it was found in Mongolia plus onyx for claw in Greek. Although it's spelled a little bit differently and that goes back into a beetle that had the same names. Dinosaurs are always getting renamed because they're accidents named the same thing as beetle. So Monica says the same in NYC it just keeps the same land weird spelling. It's not always Beatles but yeah yeah it is often insects. It is the too many of those things. So you can think of it as either pneumatic tonics as claw. Or you think just next an Alvarez Ohrid because a lot of times they end nice and then the species name. CD's means swift in Latin. So it's like the swift necked Alvarez soared since there are two individuals in the fines they had a named one as the hollow type and one is the pera type which isn't officially the dinosaur that you would compare future finds too but it is one that they believe as the of the same species genus us for the type they found tons of vertebrae a shoulder blade some ribs hips leg and foot bones. But unfortunately there weren't any arm bones like I said before and there wasn't a skull there wasn't a skull for any of our swords either so a little bit of a bummer because those can be so interesting and unique same with the arm bones for halvor swords. Yeah Yeah So. We have enough to know that it's probably a unique genus and species but not enough to really nail down what it looked like. Can maybe how compared to some of the other Alvarez or it's for the Para type pretty much all the bones are from the legs and feet. Interestingly the though it's a different color than the type so it was easier for them to match up which one came from which individual because I guess all of the paraty bones were a little bit lighter something they kind of looked like the same color in a different color than the other bones especially weird since it was founded as a small area in terms of appearance. The MEK Nike. It's very similar to modernise the original Mongolian Alvarez Award by looking at the description about half of the distinctions between Monica's and the MEK nikes are from bones in the hips and feet. That are fused into Mechta Nike's but not in Monica's and that's often linked to age age sometimes injury but there were two of them which helps because that means that they probably weren't individual variation because both the Pera type and the holiday Ed some of these similarities. Plus we already know that. It's a multi tax deposit because of Gobi Raptor which was found mixed in with these two. So it's not that surprising that there would be a Monica's and MEK nikes with each other and then on top of that. The NIKES is slightly smaller at about three point. Four kilograms uh-huh or seven and a half pounds compared with what they thought. Monica's was so if it's smaller but it has some features. You might expect to see in an adult that makes yes you think that yeah it could be its own genus for sure and there were a couple other features that were unique like a little ridge one of the vertebrae that you don't see on Monica so in the end we ended up with a second Alvarez Ohrid from the next formation previously they had thought that the next formation formation didn't have very many Alvarez awards and they were kind of restricted to other formations within Mongolia because there are other formations within Mongolia. And that's where a lot of the other sorts have come from so now we know that they weren't just in other parts that were also at least two in the next formation will probably find more soon to hopefully the next time we find some claws though or at least a skull or preferably a claw doing something that lets us know what they use those for embedded in like a termite mound or something. It'd be good to have a copper light too so we could see what they were eating. Maybe some cut contents small things. There was one that was found where it was in good enough preservation preservation that we could see feathers on that show via so maybe at some point you know if you can find feathers preserved you could find gut contents. It's not too much task of next. As our new micro rap during this one was published in the anatomical record by Ashley poston others being a micro raptor from northeast China. You probably have a vague idea of what it looks like. Because they're all pretty much amazingly preserved and they have that sort of archaeopteryx. Look to them where they're squished down and you can see a lot of details. This one is just like those it's no exception from the early Cretaceous about one hundred twenty million years ago. It's full name is Wolong Bojaya's and Wu long means a dancing dragon. It's because of quote it's spritely pose. An inferred Word Nimble Habits Fun. Yeah I like to that. They didn't name just after the place where it was friend. Because that's a popular thing to do in China. It's like the fairies of dinosaurs dinosaurs that it's spritely than the bull high incidence is after the bo-hi straight which isn't where the dinosaurs found. It's where where the museum that is. Housed in is so named after the location near the museum and I think that might be partly because they're not sure where it came. I'm from because this one wasn't dug up by researchers they talk about how was dug up by an amateur that was skilled but not well aware of dinosaur anatomy because they ended up sort of preparing it a little bit and trying to glue some things back together that we're slightly out of place acid. Then you lose. There's a little bit of data. Yeah and I. I don't think they know where exactly came from. They didn't say in the papers. I'm guessing they just own now. They also say who they bought from so it might be a secret. Being a micro it's also dramatic or that's a larger group or a raptor so it has those claws on his feet and just like Mike Raptor it. It seems to have had four feathered limbs meaning. It's got the feathered arms and legs. The tail didn't seem to be quite as feathered although it was also feathered third as is common for dinosaurs in the area. The whole animal is articulated in essentially a single slab of rock. It's sort of been glued back. Act together a little bit but in general you can look at it in one piece in C it's whole proportions and everything it's really cool. It's also bigger than I expected it to be when I blew it up to scale on on my computer I was like is that right. I had to check like three or four times because the body alone excluding the tail is about a foot long which is pretty big for one of these finds. Is that fits in a single block. and Wu longs full length including the tail and the tail feathers would have been about three feet long so it's a pretty long animal. Yeah Yeah especially to find him one piece. Even though it's found in one slab unfortunately it is a little bit crushed the skull especially as crushed because at tends to happen happen when it gets smashed down into this one plane the neck vertebrae are also crushed but the rest of it is in a lot better shape. It's a little bit less crushed. Once he get farther into into the body. This super good preservation is due to how was deposited in the Fine Lake Sediment. That's common for these fossils and it's only missing a few you little bones basically a couple ribs and a couple of finger bones. Looks like all that's missing out of the entire skeleton so like I said without its tales about a foot long. The tail adds another two feet but the feathers at the end of the tail alone account for about six inches of that tail length. Wow yeah they're really cool feathers. It looked like the resplendent Quetzal and I was thinking that and then once you get to the very end and the conclusion they mentioned that bird and I was like oh good. I'm not way off hop on this one so it's a pretty famous bird. The reason I know of it is because it's shares a name with the CAL. Catalysts that big Tara Sore her and the resplendent Quetzal it has a green body and it has to really long green tails. You might have seen it in. One of bird documentaries the hang way off its back and off its tail. Obviously birds don't really have tails the same way dinosaurs. Do they just have a little stump like we have for our tailbone and then they they're mostly feathers this one had both we'll long head along foot and a half long tail of another another half a foot of feathers sticking end of that so it's almost like one of those ribbon dancers in the Olympics or something. It was made for dancing. Exactly that's really cool. It's wingspan is not very impressive. Compared to the length of of its body it's only about one and a half feet. That's hard to beat. I think there's at forty two centimeters and there are also really narrow wings the head I think they call it a high aspect ratio. She Oh or something sort of like a wide screen computer situation where it's Kinda skinny and long but not all that long. It's only one and a half a wingspan. So I don't no no how good of a flyer it really would have been and there's been questions about whether these dinosaurs that had feathers on their legs really would have been all that good of flying anyway because they might have just created extra drag plus. It's got two big feathers on its tail. It's kind of all over the place. The first thing that made me think I was measuring those dinosaur wrong was by looking at at its head because it's skull is longer than its femur and it's several inches long and full of sharp teeth so it has a lot more your head on it than what you expect to see one of these little bird ish dinosaurs big head decent wings fan and giant tail. Yeah Yeah yes. It's pretty strange proportioned animal. They didn't give a weight estimate of Wolong. But I'd say it was probably just a couple of pounds. This group is often compared to crows rose. And that's probably the right ballpark for sort of estimating its weight. But then obviously crows aren't three feet long because they don't have a long skinny tail sticking out the back of them so so it's an crows also have a wider wingspan. Still not a great description this one also would have had longer legs than crow but they probably would have been similar colors just because we have Michael Raptors with preserved Milan Azzam like structures in based on that we think there were that same iridescent black color as a crow and since this is a close relative that still our best guess what color would have been and that's a caller that pick for the Paleo are two. They suspected that it was a juvenile based on the fact that its bones weren't weren't fully fused and fortunately the museum where it stored allow them to slice. Open the bones to confirm that which is not always easy to do when when you find a holiday type to start cutting it open and they cut open. A bunch of wasn't just one bone I think they cut up and three or four of them to compare and I I think part of it too is they were looking for lags. Those lines of arrested growth like tree rings but they didn't find them so I'm wondering if maybe they looked in one bone and didn't find it and then we're like well. Maybe maybe the other bone might have one and didn't find one there either and after a few times they thought maybe we should stop by the time they got to the Fibula. They found that it might have one. That could have started with a fabulous two. I made up that story but they might be one lag in the fibula so maybe it was one year old like just over one year old. They said it it was probably merely one year old though because that was the only bone that had a lag in it Also maybe it grew into its body it would have less weird proportions as an adult. Yeah that's true so maybe got longer arms later or something. Y- grew into the tail when they did their histology too. They also got a chance to look at the bone micro structure and that also looked like it was still growing so yeah tear point. Maybe it was still growing and changing proportions a little bit one fun one thing is there. Were these whitish inch long objects in the slab with woo long and Sabrina. I'm GonNa have you guess what they are so they appear to contain some bone they're straight rather than coiled which suggests that it's a tetrapod. Those are the two hints straight trait rather than coiled whitish Contain some bone contains some bone. And it's some sort of animal. It is not an Hannibal with some bone geared smiling. All I don't know what could it be. Plant is a copper oppor light. Oh I should've guessed that. Yeah for. They didn't know which animal came from. They can't tell if it came from Wolong or not didn't really the explore it in the paper was some bone. Yeah I thought it was funny that the fact that if if it was coiled meant that it wouldn't have been from tetrapod like Poop Emoji right. I was thinking. Oh it's not coil to can't be poop but of course it can anyway. Yeah so we'll have to wait for a future paper paper to find out what is all going out with this copper light but back to long they have already hinted at several times found several feathers all all over the dinosaur really more than several basically like the whole dinosaurs covered in feathers. There were filaments or hair like feathers around the head and hips primarily and in some of the other areas where you wouldn't need flight feathers and then the wings have long and possibly asymmetric flight feathers so we might be seeing the ability ready to fly a little bit at least enough to kind of glide or hop along help with the dancing they go like those extended leaps. Yeah to be impressive and then of course it. has those amazing half a foot. Long feathers sticking off the back of its tail. But the interesting thing about that is we know it was a juvenile and the resplendent Quetzal and other similar burs have these big feathers for display. Don't grow those display feathers until they're quite a bit older and and sexually mature and we know that this dinosaur wasn't sexually mature yet because it was still very young so maybe the feathers weren't related needed to meeting is the main hypothesis that they have. Otherwise maybe they just grew them early and they. There wasn't a big selective pressure like maybe it's just easy to have them. I'm hanging off the back. And they don't affect Wolong the same way that they affect. Something like a resplendent. Quetzal is trying to fly around and having these feathers in the way so who knows or evolutions just trying something new. They look at a few other micro afternoons and a lot of them. Don't have ages associated with them like I said for these ones that are in a slab. It's kind of hard to do histology on them and even when they do histology. It's not always easy to tell the exact age so we're we're not really sure exactly when these feathers started growing on these dinosaurs. One piece that you don't see in most papers is a big section on on the providence of the dinosaur but since they got it from a potentially suspicious origin a large portion of the paper is dedicated to whether or not the fossil itself is fake including x Ray images of the dinosaur and lots of detail as also some UV images all all sorts of stuff where they're comparing little details trying to see if part of the slab that looks like it was just glued back together might come from a different source and been glued in there to make it look like like a more complete invaluable specimen and it shouldn't be too big of a surprise either because some of the micro raptors from China specifically have run into issues with not being entirely real but after all their analysis they think that it was a one hundred percent valid and they think the only weird thing about about it was that foot that has some toes glued on in the wrong place. But they're guessing that's probably because when they open the slab and you have sort of two sides to your lithograph plate and most of the dinosaurs stuck in the one and that's the one we're looking at maybe some of the toe bones were on the other half when they broke it open and then they just removed them from the other half of the slab and glued them onto the side but just didn't gloom on quite right. That's their your best. Guess at how it ended up this way so in the end were left with our brand new micro wrapped arena woo long and if you WANNA see it it might be on display boy. I don't know but as Dahlie on Natural History Museum in Dalian China which keeps coming up more and more often in the news so they probably have quite the collection growing at this point. We say that a lot about museums in China yes in the. US though Washington state might soon have an official dinosaur. This is an interesting one. It's a therapa nicknamed soukous source rex. So it's not the official name of the dinosaur and Sukey source was found in twenty twelve all by two researchers. From the Burke Museum they found the left Femur of a theropod and this is the only dinosaur that's ever been found in Washington lived about eighty eight million lean years ago in a coastal area. And it got its nickname from Sukey Ireland where it was found and then they added rex to the name when it was was on a tee shirt for the museum. So it's actually an quote. Indeterminate Theropod Dinosaur. But it's got a nickname so it's still needs to be devoted on as of this recording at least but the reason it's getting attention now is because of some fourth graders at elmhurst elementary said. The bill was introduced in March of Twenty nineteen eighteen last year and there was no progress on it. So these fourth graders pushed ahead and actually sponsor representative Melanie Morgan said that she was reintroducing. The bill quote on behalf of some civically engaged in fourth graders so good for them. Yeah visit doesn't have an official name yet. I mean they're calling it Sukey a source but that makes it sound like it's an actual genus and it's just not it could be eventually. It's kind of like if we lived in Vermont and as like let's make Vermont State Dinosaur Garrett a source. Now it'd be more like let's make the Vermont. Dinosaur Montpellier source or something or somewhere where it was found at a like it. Okay well don't tell to those fourth graders that could be why progresses stalled so now I don't know the details that could be. I would wait until they find a real dinosaur that can be named which could be really difficult. I know is difficult in in Oregon to find anything. Yeah but once you name the dinosaur the state dinosaur. I feel like it's going to be hard to change. And if it's names the Sukey source thing which is really just a nickname and then I find cool dinosaur. And they're going to be stuck with it. Maybe or Washington gets its official dinosaur eventually Sukey Soroush. Boris gets an official description and has the name Subbiah Sorus and then talk. It could happen Yasser better than the nickname like Bob Rex or something like that. I suppose this one sounds like a real name it does I partly. Why don't like it because I think? It's misleading moving on museum news. So the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum in Japan will be spending eighty six million. US dollars on renovations and that's going to be completed by twenty twenty. The three they have plans to have larger exhibition spaces and a new area for interactive fossil excavation and replica making lessons while and they want to boost their visitor numbers by fifty percent. The renovations will be done right after a new bullet train starts running to Fuqua. Be Much easier to get there. And apparently this currently forty-one thousand items in a fifteen thousand square meter floorspace which doesn't surprise me. It didn't seem that crowded when we were there though. I mean fifteen. Thousand Square amuses huge does because her we went through and took pictures of every and took hours. Because you literally just move an inch and he had to take a new picture. I there was a lot in there but it was organized in such a way that you didn't have to walk that far to see so much like there's a ton of stuff in there. It was really cool but the bullet train is pretty huge. Because when Brennan I went there it was you took a bullet train for two or three hours and we had to get on a different train for an hour or two and then once you get to Fuqua. You're still like an hour away from the museum night. Tram basically a a really slow tram a really pretty ride but yeah it was great. I actually really enjoyed that part part of it but it isn't quick. I'm surprised that they're visitor. Numbers aren't as high as they would like. Though because it's such an amazing museum that you'd think it would just be everybody somebody who's remotely interested in dinosaurs. Go there. Well if it's too difficult to get there I took us a fair amount of planning. Yeah it's basically a weekend trip not a day trip with the bulletin. Maybe they could turn it into a day trip from Tokyo or something that would make it easier to have more school visits. Yeah that's true next. The paleontological society has named archaeopteryx. Keok trix as its fossil of the year for twenty twenty which I didn't know this award existed. Apparently it was established in two thousand eight the award and they chose Archaeopteryx this year because of it's important evidence for evolution so it's only been going since two thousand eight this is like the twelfth thirteenth dinosaur of the year fossil of the year. So it doesn't necessarily have to be dinosaurs. Gotcha at first when you said that. I thought the fossil of twenty twenty because archaeopteryx places like a hundred and forty years old terms of its discovery. But I suppose they're just going through the greatest hits at this point. Yeah they've got some catching up to do. It's definitely an important. Fossil is another important fossil or set of fossil's is Kristin Otto the T. Rex which is an original skeleton. That's moving moving at the end of this month. January from the Natural History Museum in Berlin. The Natural History Museum in Copenhagen Tristan's alone to Berlin for the last four years and we've talked about it. They've Donald Watt of public research but apparently tristen will go back to Berlin in twenty twenty one. So I'm not really sure of the story there but Anyway Trista the auto named after Neil's Nielsen's two sons and kneels and a friend acquired the T.. Rex and then they were the ones who decided that it should be publicly displayed and researched. which is very good? tristen originally came from Montana and the team in Berlin constructed the skeleton in about a month in two thousand fifteen but the heads three D. printed because it was way too heavy to melt. And you see that a lot of T.. Rex Specimens because what like three or four feet. Long one or two feet tall solid rock fragile agile glued together in a lot of cases. It's pretty precarious. Yeah I think the skull is next to the body though. Yeah they do that a lot. The move is interesting. It's going back because I think previously when we've reported on this. We've heard that it was going to move from Berlin to Copenhagen and then Copenhagen in Hagen was going to be as permanent place wherever because they're making like a permanent home for it but I guess permanent home with some little excursions Out about now and then then I'll come back to Copenhagen yeah could be or just back and forth between Berlin and Copenhagen I dunno in New Mexico and the US. The Las Cruces Museum of Art has a new exhibit dinosaur discoveries ancient fossils new ideas. And that's GONNA show how we've changed our thinking about dinosaur dinosaur biology over the last twenty years which changed North Korea and it also shows current research from scientists from the American Museum of Natural History as well as research from other paleontologists healing intelligence. The exhibit has computer simulations fossils and models and they're all part of four themes the themes are how dinosaurs moved the Liaoning forests. They have the diagram of part of a hundred and thirty million year old forest in China. How dinosaurs behaved and extinction which is pretty cool? If you think about all this paleontology natural history stuff going to be on display in an art museum young was fun. The National Museum of Scotland has a new exhibition from from now until May fourth. It's all about Tarantulas. It's a traveling exhibit that was made by the Australian Museum and toured by flying fish. And this is the only time. Apparently it'll be in Europe breath so fewer nearby she check it out they have fossils CASS including Scotty the T. Rex and models of Guan Lung and other feathered dinosaurs. And and there's a pretty fun video trailer. That shows Guangdong getting from the airport to the museum to be part of the exhibit and grown. Long takes a train runs up some stairs kind of pushes past and people although they don't seem to terrified. Yeah that must be the exhibit the Tarantula our family one. That Mel made that we talked talked about with her at the Australian Museum. Oh yeah or at least that she contributed to. Yeah that sounds right. It's all coming together in Kansas in the US. The Sternberg Museum of Natural History has a new exhibit called Prairie Ocean Long Time no see. Sea which isn't really about dinosaurs but that name was too good not share this art and fossils of marine animals. No see yeah. That could be a decent name for a dinosaur exhibit. Because they didn't even the Oh that too and also you haven't seen them in a long time. It's great for Paleo artist. Mark Winstons teaching in New Paleo Art Short Course in March marked for the six called recreating prehistoric animals art and he's teaching in association with the University. Portsmouth there's going to be six lectures a seminar and five practical sessions and the course syllabus is on his site. It says that they're going to be talking about the history of pillow. 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Theo might miss which was a request from Marcos and dinosaur four six oh two so thanks it was an or Nitham dinosaur that lived in the late Cretaceous. And what is now North America and it was bipedal with long legs and it was ostrich-like is probably the most ostrich-like of all the dinosaurs. I would say well. In in fact its name. means ostrich. Mimic is fortunate that they didn't use that name too early. And then find this one man. We should have. This is the real ostrich mimic doc true. Well there's a whole group of them that are mimics. Yeah even though. They came way before their things that they were mimicking the truth. YOMAS is estimated to be about fourteen feet four point three meters long and weigh about three hundred and thirty pounds or one hundred fifty kilograms and even those fourteen feet long a lot of pretty narrow tail so the bulk of its body really does look like an ostrich it had a small elongated head and and large is also like an ostrich and it had a stiff tail that it probably used for balance Nelson had three toes. Each foot strontium islands was probably a fast runner and that would have helped it against predators. It was estimated to run between thirty one to fifty miles an hour or fifty to eighty kilometers per hour. Yeah and even though it could run that fast and it was probably helpful against predators. Still Kinda weird that it ran that fast because predators can run fast but not that fast. So it's it seems like they might have been running for some other reason to like maybe they were also a little bit predatory or something of seen these things proposed before the. It's it's hard to say. It did have toothless beaks though so who knows it had long slender arms and hands and three fingers on the hand. They were all about about the same length with slightly curved claws and it couldn't move much between the first finger in the second and third fingers. Stadium is may have been reverse or omnivorous so so you could go after. Some who knows one specimen has been found with gastro with their hand may been used as a hooker clamp to bring branches inches to its mouth it did have the sharp claws on the hands. So maybe it was grabbing small mammals shoving them into its toothless beak. It's really hard for us to know. The type species is truth. The OBAMAS altus and like I mentioned before that genus namings ostrich make nick altus means lofty or noble noble ostrich ostrich mimic even matter. It's one of the most common the moments in North America. Many streams you minus been found in dinosaur provincial park in Berta Candida Lawrence lamb found found the fossils in one thousand nine hundred one and then named them or Nitham I miss altus. It had longer arms and stronger fingers in Rhythm Imus and the fingers couldn't grasp food as swell. The barnum Brown then found a nearly complete skeleton in nineteen fourteen at the red deer river. Say No BERTA and Henry Osborne describes truth. You might miss altus in nineteen seventeen and and compared it to a slots arm said it may have helped support its wing feathers. Oh that's pretty good. Yes over. One hundred years ago already timeout wing feathers on it but Jurassic Park didn't Komo anyway and Riyaz Board. Is the one. Renamed organize altus is a genus of Streatham Imus Dale Russell. In nineteen seventy avenue to then made truth a full genus and refer other specimens to it. Osborne had also renamed autonomous tennis truth yomas tennis in Nineteen Sixteen scene but this is now considered to be a Gnome do him William Parks had named four more species of truth. You might miss strengthen my Miss Bravado tapes nineteen twenty six Streatham Huma Samuli in Nineteen Twenty eight studio mindless Karelya in nineteen thirty three and strength. You Might Miss Engines Nineteen thirty three. But today they're considered to be either dromey CEO my miss or or infamous some specimens found in the lower lance formation or larger with straighter longer claws on the hands. One was originally known as S. or Nathan. I Miss Settings but then was reclassified as Streatham. Imus there may be another species of truth. Yomas that was found in the Horseshoe Canyon formation and therefore younger construe. theam Imus altus but it doesn't have a name in this one also has longer more slender hands. Streatham I miss is one of the first theropod that was thought to be in a horizontal posture. A Mike T. rex that was originally thought to have this dragging tail being the Tripod posture. You can see drew my missing the game Jurassic World Evolution you although unfortunately in that they're not feathered so the kind of like a plucked chicken or plucked ostrich and are fun. Fact of the day is going to be basically a quick history country of Alvarez swords and how they almost got a different name so our swords were found way back in the nineteen twenties by Roy Chapman Angers in Mongolia on goal era and his team. I should say there were ton of out there. But since it wasn't nearly as exciting as dinosaurs velociraptor and producer tax that were being found founded area. It also wasn't as complete the bones just kind of were ignored for about seventy years. Being found only once in a while until a much more complete meniscus was found in the nineteen nineties. But before Mon- Nike's was named in the nineteen seventies of possible. Our swords were named from Romania. A A place where we almost never associate with our swords there was Bradey Niimi Dracula which you know is from Romania so Dracula Gila. They'd put that in there. Then there was tasked your nece Andrews I which was named after Charles William Andrews Not Roy Chapman Andrews in case you're wondering and they named it after him because he was important bird paleontologists and at the time both of them were thought to be probably owls because because they are very bird like and there was an argument made with Monica's in the nineties that it probably was one of the closest related ancestors to modern birds but since then it's kind of ended up in a different part of the most likely family tree but either way for the last ten years. This pair from Romania have generally considered Alvarez towards but not early enough to get the name the group name. So they're not called Brady needs that in Nineteen ninety-one the Alvarez Soroush was finally named and that was the first one that was really identified as this type of dinosaur. And that's why we call them oversaw rids because it took until until the ninety s for us to name one and figure out that it was this type of dinosaur. It's named after an Argentinian. Historian Alvarez Not Alvarez over is related to the Alvarez hypothesis but it didn't include really great remains it only had a tiny bit of a claw than part of the leg and back which was enough to identify identified as this new little group of theropods that were unique then in nineteen ninety-three just two years after our source was finally named Mono- Nike's was named with a much better preserved arm and really a better preserved specimen in general then Alvarez Soros so it was almost called Monon aikins which I actually think would be a much better name for the group because Monica's means single claw and they're the only dinosaurs we know of really that. Have this one single on on the weird arms so I think it'd be really good descriptive name but unfortunately that took too long to name it. They had seventy years but we ended up with L. Resource and if they had named it earlier they probably wouldn't have named it based on the claw anyway because they were working for more fragmentary fossils. One last important date in the history of Alvarez towards in one thousand nine hundred eight Chevallier's was named and it was the one that included the feathers on it. So now we think that likely all Alvarez or it's probably really had feathers they were Cretaceous theropods after all and a lot of them heads feathers plus they were very bird like so it makes sense so many bird like dinosaurs and that wraps APPs up this episode of I know Dino thanks for listening don't forget to subscribe see. Don't miss out on any new episodes and join our growing community on Patriot. Patriot dot com slash. Yeah I know Dino. Thanks again until next time to make.

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Julia Alvarez (Rebroadcast)

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Julia Alvarez (Rebroadcast)

"Hey It's Andrew the director of Literary Arts Literary Arts. We rely on our community. People like you for support to help make this podcast and all our programming possible. Give today literary Dash Arts Dot. Org Forward. Slash donate. Welcome to the Archive Project I'm Andrew Procter Executive Director of Literary Arts. The project is a retrospective of some of the most engaging talks from the world's best writers for more than thirty five years of Literary Arts in Portland. Support for the archive project provided by Cole Haan Cole Haan shoes bags outerwear. Go with you while you work your way to extraordinary more Cole Haan Dot Com in this episode. We feature a talk by Julia Alvarez, which she gave as part of Portland Arts and lectures in two thousand, Fourteen for broadcasting this talk now, because Alvarez has just published her first adult novel in Fourteen Years Entitled Afterlife. The book is a major milestone in an important artists career. As the New York. Times noted in their glowing review quote having made her name on poignant coming of age stories Alvarez now seventy has turned her focus toward the disorienting transition into old age. As a storyteller Julia Alvarez has helped to give voice to generation of Teaneck immigrants, her first novel how the Garcia Girls Lost their accents, was published in Nineteen ninety-one and catapulted her to literary. Internationally in this talk. Alvarez takes us on our life's journey, which serves a critical story for so many who have lived through the second half of the twentieth century born in Nineteen fifty to a large family in the Dominican Republic. Alvarez's family was forced out when her father took part in a coup attempt on the dictator Rafael Trujillo. Alvarez emphasizes the importance of the story to empower the individual and also to maintain a sense of identity in a foreign country. Alvarez's humble and humorous talk ranges from revolutions to the school yard from the Civil Rights Movement to the importance of librarians with references to the work of writers as diverse as Tony Morrison Dave Eggers Grace Paley Spike. Lee. Here's Alvarez at the. District Concert Hall in two thousand fourteen. Thank you I've felt welcome since I stepped off that plane weary last night. HAPPY TO BE BACK IN PORTLAND AND I'm glad that maybe you aren't that it. It was raining. Because now I know that portlanders. Is that what they call you? Portlanders. That? They're not just complainers. It really does rain all the time at least once today. So it's wonderful, it is wonderful to be here and we came from Vermont where it's just been the most hard winter, so this feels Balmy, tropical. So. Mike talk today is about. Power of story. To change the world one imagination at a time. In the spring of Nineteen ninety-one when my first novel was published, how the Garcia girls lost their accents. I was sent on a book tour. I was surprised. You See. I started writing in those times where there was no such thing as a book tour. If fact, books were just beginning to half authors photos when I started writing. And it was a few more years before those author I. became, Glamor, shots. Erica John at the top from fear of flying without towel sold blonde hair, falling sexily over one eye mouth, parted open, prefiguring the models of Victoria's secret. Then John Irving. With sweaty muscles hair, dripping with sweat, looking like he just wrestled down his enormous bestseller, the world, according to Garp. And then even poets Galway canal will. Erica was a was a poet to Galway. Can now book of nightmares looking like he just come in from chopping wood to write a poem about it. And even! Raymond Carver, who we all thought of as this hulking bumbling guy from the hard drinking, hard scrabble world of his down, and out characters, looking like a seething guy on the make ready to pounce on you. But by the time Garcia girls came out we had authors photos. We had both tours and one of the mandatory stops was always Powell books at Portland Oregon. Thank you. I had never been to a department store of just books. The only comparison was when we arrived in New York City in nineteen, sixty from the Dominican Republic and my father took me to the New York Public Library the one of forty seconds street with the Lions and the grand steps leading up to the entrance. I had never been in a cathedral of books. That's the only comparison I could make my mind for such a grand structure. I wasn't yet a reader, but I was awed. Especially, when my bobby with typical exaggeration told me that this library had a copy of every book that it ever been written by and gone. I think he was confusing it with the library of Congress. Oh and just in case you think we were this intellectual reading family, and this was our first sight seeing stop in in whereby Dork our first outing had actually been to herald square with Mommy to see macy's the biggest store in the world. So anyhow. Here I. Am back in Portland Twenty three years, and over a dozen books later except I'm not good at math and I just learned that there. There are at least twenty. But here I am and instead of at the very beginning of my public writing career I'm now well somewhere towards the end to quote Diana at hills wonderful memoir about old age. These days I'm taking stock of what I've learned by practicing this craft over the course of a lifetime, and this is what we do at our age, we. We take stock. A lot has changed. And I hope I have grown and matured as a writer. But one thing hasn't changed is my faith in the power of stories. Looking back even before I came into English or became a reader or wanted to be a writer, stories were helping me find my way to the person I would become the writer who stands before you today. I grew up in the fifties and the dictatorship of through and the Dominican Republic. It was a nightmare world, a world of terror and monitoring and secret police, a world war people disappeared ideas were censored where owning books made. You suspect as an intellectual and a troublemaker. And here we have to change the mood the image of the dictator through Hiyo the dictator. Who Control Iron Control of the country, but one thing the dictator could not repress was the irrepressible need of the human creature for stories. Though every publishing, every media outlet television radio publishing was under the control of the dictator and his secret police. Still the stories came out through what people popularly called Raviol- Binga. Radio big mouth. Ours was not a literary culture, but an oral culture storytelling culture story stories, what a wealth of stories people told them all the time years later when I attended a graduate program in creative writing, I would realize that all that I was being taught about character and plot and timing and rhythm in lyricism and metaphor. I had learned in my homeland in many cases by people who could not read or write or had minimal book learning. It was an important discovery for me to make us a young writer. Spike Lee said in an interview that one of the great lessons in his life. was that you can learn things from people who are dumber than you. Are Really you think they're dumber than you. So as I said, I was not a reader. I was. A terrible student flunked every grade through fifth grade. My real education happened when I got home from school, and reentered my large colorful complex, diverse, extended, familiar, full of characters full of storytellers. You've worth saying that it takes a village to raise a child. My extended family amounted to a small village. My father's family My father was the youngest of twenty five kids. The. First wife had ten kids, and then she died amazingly not in childbirth. And then the second wife had fifteen kids, and my father was the youngest of those fifteen, so here is the obligatory Sunday family gathering with a bit. said it in the center with a little black. Hair ban and This was before the time of Telephoto Lens so when the photographer would come every once in a while the little guy that put the Black Cape over his head. He that he he arranged people took a photo. Then another group came, took a photo and they up cobbling them together to get the whole family. So you can imagine how many storytellers we had. Only once. Can I remember falling captive to a book? Not Adul- censored dictatorship school book. But one my aunt gave me, and it was call the Arabian Nights I read and reread pouring over the captivating pictures instead of the usual. Pale lawn blue, eyed princesses, the cover showed a girl with dark eyes and dark hair, a girl who have been Dominican. This, Girl Sheherazade, lifting a kingdom ruled by cruel Sultan. Every night the sultan had a girl brought him, and by dawn she would be killed a practice, not unlike our dictator five the way, but not that I knew that back then. But the night before her own beheading sheherazade that was the girl's name, began telling the Sultan Stories sinbad-the-sailor Alibaba and the forty thieves Aladdin magic lamp. She had spent years reading in her father's library. Learning the art of storytelling why apprenticeship is important is so. She knew how to work the story so that at dawn the time for execution, she'd be at a cliff-hanging moment. And Thrall D-. The Sultan would spare her one more night in order to hear the ending of the story. The clever sheherazade would finish that story and then start a whole new story and be at another cliff-hanging moment when the sun came up night after night after night, over the course of one thousand and One Nights, and what happened, the sultan fell in love with Sheherazade, and this love healed is hard. He repented his evil ways. Sheherazade had saved not only yourself, but the sultan, and also all the women in our kingdom. This was a really important story for me to read it. Put in my head a little piece of luminous information. The stories have power. They can transform US and save us. When I was ten years old, my family was forced to flee the country because of my father's involvement in a plot against the dictator, we had to leave everything behind our language. Our homeland, our our our media, but I brought the large expanse of liberating story of Sheherazade in my head. We landed in new. York, city August. Nine, thousand, nine, hundred sixty and lady liberty that Bobbie told us about would welcome us the home of the brave and the land of the free. She even had a poem on honor pedestal which. Later I came to really appreciate. August one, thousand, nine, hundred sixty, the civil rights movement, was just getting underway Latino Literature, multicultural literature bilingual education were unheard of. In the playground, a group of bullies that you heard about Andrew Dole you Taunton my accent call names told me to go back to where I come from. Back, by father would be killed, we might be killed. We had escaped a horrible dictatorship to the land of the free and the home of the brave, but I did not find this new country, a very welcoming place I felt homesick and lost and scared in this new culture and language, so this is Lady Liberty not very happy with her Americans. Take this picture sometimes when I talked to. Two young kids middle school kids high school kids talking about where does. This prejudice. This ushering. How does it happen and I show this picture because of the generations you look at the little girl. She's got a really open sweet face. She's just in a Halloween costume. She doesn't know to. Leave people out and already a few years older older brother, look at his pose in his snarl, and how arms crossed. And where did he get that look at GRANDPA? Same face, same posture, so we learn the stuff and. Sometimes it just comes to us and. You know. How do we escape it? But I instead of falling apart I landed I touch ground in the place I had been searching for what happened was a wonderful sixth grade teacher. A list of books she sent me to the library. A Librarian helped me I checked out the books and took them home and read them. I brought them back and checked out some more I was becoming a reader New York nineteen sixty s sixth grade teacher, a library librarian. They put books in my hands. WHAT AN AMAZING WORLD! This was! What freedom came with reading? You could go back. Back to olden times you could go to whole new a whole other country. You could go to the future. What's more? The world of books was a truly welcoming place. No warnings posted on the cover, not for Spics, not for blacks, not for girls. Everyone was welcome. Come on in. My favorite writers seem to be saying they don't want you there. Come on in and year they are. Yeah. There's Jane Austen George Eliot Emily Dickenson favorites as I became a reader in high school and college, and it really did feel like there was this place I could go to entered. I found a portable homeland. The table set for all I've found what we had come looking for. In the United States of America between the covers of books, the grand democracy of the world of the amid magic nation where everyone was welcome. My sixth grade teacher not only encouraged by reading. She told me to write down all those little stories. I was telling the aunts and uncles Diaz in Theo's boy and girl cousins. primos I was missing so much. Write them all down your personal. Deal, better seal with his long scraggly beard, and is one glass I spent the night in a glass of water and his extra six finger. It was just a joint, but He told. Does it have been cut off, so he could be normal. Right him down all. And their stories of see Guavas a tribe of beautiful women who only came out at night to hunt for food, and no one could ever track them down because they had a secret, their feet were on backwards, so their footprints were always in the opposite direction of where they come from. Write them down that taste of Guavas, the smell of the ocean, the feel of the tropical sun, like a warm blessing on my head right down, I did I wrote down my little stories and everything I had lost came back. Not only that the world around me changed as well when my teacher read my stories out loud to the whole class, those very same bully-boys who had spitted me and thrown stones in the playground, and called me Spic, and told me to go back to where I come from turned around to look at me. Not that they got nicer, but for a moment they actually saw me as real. Nothing human was alien to them. Not even a little brown hair deeply tanned skinny Hispanic girl with a heavy accent. It was my own personal sheherazade moment and I was ready for it. Because that earlier story had planted the seed of possibility in me, the imagination can save you. Some of the students today at noon asked me well. What would have been what have been the special moments of your life as rider? How do you measure your success and I said well it steadily for a rider to be doing that because each book you have to learn how to write that book beginner's mine, but there are moments that are really special, and this happened in New, York City. My aunt, who still lives there and went to the public. Library and it was a nice spring day, so she went down. Poets Walk to Walk Behind The New York. Public Library and they have coats by Whitman and they have spy Emily Dickinson. and Lo and behold, she got to one of them, and it was duly Alvarez and it was my birth year, so this was. Why can't say she even has a cell phone now, but there were any cell phone she ran and got a disposable camera from the drugstore, took a picture and sent it to me, so that I finally was on that poets walk where I never thought I would ever be on the shelf phenomenal so on the sidewalk, and it's really a money saver because as I told my husband I don't want. A gravestone. I don't want to be buried. You burn me. You keep some of those ashes, and then you go down to the poet's walk in just. There's vents there, so we don't have to pollute. So that's a personal example of the power of story. But a story can also enter the bloodstream of imagination. Of a people of a culture of a country of the world and change history. Take the example of the three meet our sisters from the Dominican Republic who their husbands started and underground movement against the three dictatorship. Bosnia, Minerva and Maria Teresa. Known by their codename of last muddy paws butterflies. And their driver Rufino were brutally killed by the dictator on November twenty fifth thousand nine sixty. But the story spread. People who have been paralyzed, they heard it through the Obama I people who have been paralyzed Dominicans by terror began to join the movement six months later through he yo was assassinated signaling the end of a thirty one year dictatorship. Many many you can imagine in thirty one years. Many many horrors have been perpetrated in that time, but the story of this brutal murder of three young women and their courage transformed and mobilized an oppressed nation. And it didn't stop at our borders. The story of the butterflies went on to inspire and international movement in Nineteen Ninety nine. The United Nations declared the day of their murder International Day for the elimination of violence against women. and. The declaration there three young women who thought they were just working towards the liberation of one small half island have become international symbols of freedom for women and men everywhere. And I have yes. Some some is just moving and I, just picked six of them. Of, This Day being commemorated in different parts of the world, this is November twenty, fifth and India. Here in Afghanistan. In Romania with the names of women that have died. Due to violence and candles in front of them. In Spain. Girls Marching in Thailand. And this last one embiid who. So. Yes I believe in the power of story to transform the world. But I should add that the changes stories bring about are often so slight that often we ourselves are unaware that we come out of a great work of literature as a different person than when we began reading a character, a situation are charged line of Poetry stertorous deeply. No territory taken that we can see no elections one. No sweeping legislation passed and yet the huge movements that changed the world begin with these small movements of the heart. As one of my favorite Haiku by ISA, the Japanese, Haiku rider describe sent I look into. The dragon flies, I and I see the mountains over my shoulder. We look into the dragon flies I and we see the mountains over our shoulders. We read we listen to a story. and. We become someone else a simple and incredible as that. Terrance the Roman slave in playwright who freed himself with his writings once-proud. I am a human being nothing. Human is alien to me. That could be the motto of Literature. Nothing human is alien to the pen of a novice, and when we and when we write, nothing human is alien to us either. Reading, we enter deeply into the lives of the others we exercise the muscles of the imagination, which are also the muscles of compassion and understanding we make meaning we did ourselves into community by sharing the experience of being a human being. We find our way home to the deep sources that can sustain us as individuals and as a human family. Now, I love it when I have an article of faith that I find confirmed and affirmed in ancient wisdom. And Bruce Chat wins. The song lines. He tells one of my favorite stories about storytelling. It turns out the fifteen thousand years ago. There were tribes. Maybe you know about them. Who lived in the North West Coast of America half on the islands and half on the mainland. They would travel over the sea and navigate their canoes up the current from California to the Bering Strait which they called Clinton Auto. The navigators were priestesses the words of this old woman. Represents a tradition. Fifteen thousand years old, and this is from Bruce. Chapman's song lines. The all woman. Telling the story about those priestesses. Do about the movement of the see was pre served in the verses of a song for thousands of years we went where we wanted, and we came home safe. Because of the song on clear nights we have the stars to guide us. And in the fog we have the streams and creeks of the C- The streams and creeks that flow into and become clin auto. There was a song for going to China in a song for going to Japan a song for the Big Island and a song for the smaller one. All she had to know was the song as she knew where she was to back. She just sang the song and reverse. Through songs and stories, these priestesses kept important knowledge alive. They helped try to navigate their way safely home. Fifteen thousand years later it's still works are stories help us navigate our way back home to the circle of our shared humanity. I'm more and more convinced that a storytellers we have an important role to play in bringing about the changes that moss tap, and if we're going to survive as a human family on the small planet of diminishing resources. I admit. I, often feel helpless before the urgency and hugeness of the challenges before us I sympathize with Stanley Kyun, it's a little piece. He wrote reflections. Would be published at the age of ninety five. He said in this little reflection. He says sometimes I feel ashamed that I've written so few palm. Some political themes on the causes that agitate me, but then I remind myself that to choose to live as a poet or storyteller in the modern superstate is in itself a Political Act. To choose to live. twos to live outside that confining box of status quo to live impossibility as emily put it Emily Dickinson is a political act and has its own reward. You get to have its own personal reward. As well as bigger ones. You get to have a soul. But it's not enough to just save yours Tony Morrison. Remind says that the function of freedom is to free someone else. And the change that has to happen begins with the way. PEOP-. Transforming the way people see the WORL-. It is the story tellers job these days to change the imagination of change. So. That's what concerns me these days as a storyteller with all that I've learned after four decades of practicing calling what kinds of stories can I tell? That might help us navigate our way back towards springs where we can find the deep waters in nourish ourselves as a human family. My latest book and I'll just tell you a little bit about it, and then we'll have. A wedding in Haiti the story of a friendship. is a non fiction attempt. To look in the Dragon Flies I and address the mountains over my shoulder. What are those mountains? The huge difficult turbulent history between two little countries on the same small island of Hispaniola Haiti and the Dominican Republic. The most most brutal in the recent history is nineteen thirty seven. The murder, the massacre of twenty thousand Haitians, by the dictator's soldiers who were living on the Dominican side of the border. It's a shameful genocide, and maybe some of you know of it from each Dante Qods. Wonderful powerful novel the farming of the bones. But it's a shameful genocide. Little known about never properly addressed a redressed by the Dominican, government or the international community, a mentality of enmity which continues to this day, so it's a huge mountainous. How to address it. Shame Messina's wonderful poem where he says in one of the stances. History says don't hope on this side of the grave. But then once in a lifetime, the tidal wave of justice can rise up and hope and history rhyme and hope and history rhyme. So, what if we step outside? What history says and tell a new story that is really an old story of our. We are part of a human family together. What happens when you form a friendship with the enemy when you step outside Your Comfort Zone and your cultural paradigm and keep a promise. So this is what this book is about an unlikely friendship with. Myself and a young patient, bt, who like many Haitians in desperate straits, crossed the border illegally to work in the Dominican Republic. He ended up at Al Tag Rossiya the project that my husband Bill, Lichner, and I started in the mountains of the Dominican Republic. And there's bt he's. been cut off, but he's the one on the far right and why they have the guitar says that. In the project, it was wonderful. Because since I'm at Middlebury College, my students would take many of them there alternative break trips to the farm and do projects there and one of them. A music major broader guitar left at these are young men that don't know how to read a ride, but they learned how to play the guitar. We brought a second guitar then like young people all over the world. They started a band. So. They're they are playing it out. And interest of speeding this along I won't do this sound clip, but here they are so. One night bt. He came as A. Boy, a young man to work to help his family I saw him at say he looked sad homesick. As I. Thought I'm going to brighten up his night. And why? What does this storyteller do? She tells a story, so I said bt, you know. I can I can see the future? And I see you married to this beautiful Haitian girl. You have a family I went on to paint this beautiful picture. He just looked at me like I was crazy. What was he gonNa meet a Nice Asian girl in an all male workgroup in on a mountain in the Dominican Republic. I said no, no, no pity you don't understand. This is really gonNA happen. And I am going to be the Godmother of the wedding I will be there. So. Big You make an expansive gesture. You tell a story. What happens eight years later in Vermont? We get a phone call trumpy thing marina. I'm getting married in a week in Haiti. Are you coming? So you see stories can also get you into trouble. But we made it. And the story tells of all the illegalities and the things that we did to get there on time. With the clock. Ticking away and only twenty four hours to make it across Haiti. We thought it was a cathedral across the border no way. So! With such huge problems to address why write a story about one Haitian and one Dominican, because I've listened to Sheherazade to the priestesses navigating. The Clinton Auto I know that the way to transform the heart and the mind, and the soul is through story I know that if you look in the dragonflies, I and see the mountains, you can see the mountains over your shoulder that hope and history can rhyme. This is an important time for a storytellers whether the world acknowledges that or not we have to awaken new possibilities in ourselves, and in our readers, and in our communities. It's our task storytellers to write the world. Are I. H t one friendship, one reader one imagination at a time. And just a couple more. This is something that came about you. Know the the live, my my. Heroes I presently are the those writers that also are activists. Young example Dave Eggers. Example more. Someone that I looked up to so much grace Paley, and this happened Yup good brace. She be here with doing gum in her little tennis shoes barely reaching the podium. Wonderful Grace. This happened. After, winning in Haiti a group of us of the Diaspora decided that we commemorate the seventy fifth anniversary of the Heysham massacre, and we massed at the border and we call ourselves. We do this now. Every year border lights and we go on the border. We read poems we sing. We tell stories and it's amazing. Started with a Core Group of twenty and soon we have the whole village before us. This is on the Dominican side of the border. And the most thrilling thing was when we saw lights, coming down the hills on the Haitian side and little answering lights, and they put these floating lanterns on the river, so we're doing it again. October four to six year old invited to the border of the Dominican Republic and Haiti and finally. This he and his beautiful wife, and the kid, just like I said right. And now you know Pitino's a whole book about him and people say pathy. How does that feel a whole book about you and he says? He's not a reader. Says he's not that excited. He doesn't seem that excited what he's really excited. About is how bill my husband staged me with with BTV, because bill says hey, you can write a novel. I could produce a CD so where the help of my stepdaughter who designed the cover. She's an artist. and CD Baby Online. They record it bt and his brothers. You'll hear them and is leaner. WHO's now part of the ban and so we're going to go out with just a few. Seconds of you hearing him. Play his CD and you can order it on CD baby by the way. And the full ten dollars goes to him. He's very happy about this so. Take it. Better cut it. Oh! Thank you. All right, so you can get your questions on cards and hand of the I've got questions, so we'll start with those and then take your questions as soon as they arrive question here in your opinion, what makes a good writer Oh, my goodness, we started with an easy one. Gets much worse later. Well. That is really tough. I mean finally. It's really what makes a good book because I think. It's not just about the writer. And You know. You can have a writer that writes a book and maybe. The next one or the next few or never ride again that way I think it's I think the focus is more the good book. For me and I think the. Good book is one that. Well changes my changes, my perception. Transforms me. And I think a writer. A good writer to me is one that is willing to do that work and to sit down and have the discipline of doing that. And I think the best riders disappear. And what you have is the text, and of course we feel like we want to touch the writer. We want to get to know the writer, but it is the tax. So I think a writer. The does the work. And also talk about currently. The writers that I'm admiring are also writers that are really connected to community and WANNA be agents of of the real necessary change has to happen and in a variety of ways. It doesn't have to be that out there propagandizing. Or anything like that, but they're. Able to. Through their storytelling, transform the way people are thinking. That was a hard question. What are some of the difficulties you face when you right? It's hard work, and as I said you can't. Just because you wrote a book that worked last time you've got. You've got to forget all that. You've got to start over beginner's mind. I really do believe that it helps over the course of a lifetime of practicing that you've built up a craft. But you've got to learn how to write the book before you and that's tough. Because there is no recipe and I know people, there isn't a way to say. This is the way to do it because riders are so different, but for me disciplined. Showing up is a basic thing I'm. Many times I'm not inspired many times I. Throw things away, but. If I hadn't shown up by wouldn't have kept that agility with the language going and at the end of the day. You should be able to tell the paragraph that took me. Two weeks to write from the paragraph that came like a dream but I know the difference, but you show up and I make the comparison a lot, too with my students to a dancer that if you're a dancer, and you don't do your exercises for two weeks, and then you get inspired and go out because your piece of music to dance. You're going sprain something. And the same thing of keeping the agility, even if you're just writing in a journal, even if you're writing a blog, carver, you doing to keep that. That limber so that you're ready for the moment when inspiration hits. With the instrument that is all that craft to be able to execute it. What is your favorite guilty pleasure when you're writing and editing a novel? My favorite guilty pleasure. Who asked me that? I've got to put that in my writing day. Maybe I don't take. I mean I take lots of little pleasurable things, but guilty pleasure. I don't know you know. I guess I do have one were. If things aren't going well, I'll pull out a good. Book to read. And my husband says did you have a good day I think he I finished that novel. I Read I've Read I don't know twenty pages of Jack Gilbert my new favorite You know, so, I don't know that's lying. Makes me. Feel guilty because I don't have anything to over myself, but who cares. About me, only you know, it's about these wonderful storytellers and poets. What is something surprising? You have discovered in your journey of being an author. Oh my goodness. There's so many surprises I mean. We were talking about this Sydney and I in the bag fed. You know she was saying well, you know. I sometimes I don't know what I think unless I write it down I. write a poem and I thought yeah, right so I think often i. mean people do it differently, but the way that I make meaning and understand reality is through creating these word things, and so I'm full of surprises all the time in fact you know. You go back to the first question that I felt like I was floundering and. I think I think one way to tell a good writer is if you keep surprising yourself frost, said no surprise for the writer, no surprise for the reader they you got to be the juice of. It is that you're constantly? Learning things that you didn't know you knew. Through the through the process of writing, so I think I've really. Just constantly. been surprising myself. As a writer. What obstacles have you encountered being a Latino writer? And how have you overcome them? Well when I started writing, there was no such thing as Latino writing. You heard there was no such thing as bilingual education multicultural studies. We didn't have women's studies back then. Afro American Studies started to come in when I was in college, but not in the connaught, not in the Canon. Every once in a while, some cool teacher would bring in. African American poet Langston Hughes whatever, but there was. It didn't exist. So I think the first real. Barrier that I encountered was internal. Did even though I really everything I was reading. was saying that writing is about being a human being. I didn't see anybody on the shelf that the books that had people like me in it, or were written by people like me so internally. I didn't really believe I didn't really believe that it could be done. That was a big surprise that I could do it. That was a big surprise to learn that I could be a writer and I I. Mean Garcia Girls wasn't published until I was forty one, so I had already spent about twenty twenty five years writing with no success. I mean it was. What we wrote about as Latino Authors was considered sociology, not really part of American literature, and then came the big opening. Many of US Latina writers talk about. The first big. Sort of green light that we got was maxine Hong Kingston publishing the Woman Warrior that Amazing Book and we read it and we thought this about a Chinese-american. Sacramento could as well be a Dominican in whereby your or Mexican American Gago some of the same issues, and it was beautiful, and it was so well received, and I think in the eighties began the opening of the cannon, and you know it's been remarkable during my lifetime to see it open as much as it has, but there's still a lot of challenges out there. For riders, I mean American literature now is flush with them en- vibrant with. Don't follow here. He do know Diaz had reached onto, Khan. Duly Awed Soka I. Don't Know How many of you have red. Buddha in the attic. My last novel that I read. A real favorite, so it's still is changing system and it, but I've seen. It happened during the course of my own writing life. Of this questions from Roxie as an immigrant I feel like I'm neither here, nor there whereas home for you. Why I think I talked about it a little bit with being a writer, it's the world of the imagination. We're just really blueprint. Blueprint Inc. we no longer use a blueprint for for you know how to be as a human family, but that's really we're been able to bring the world's together and integrate them in a way that because I live in Vermont and I call it the Latino compromise state. Of Vermont, there aren't that many Latinos there and then I go to the DR and. The other world it's either or the pay per the writing where I've been able to integrate it. But the older I get I just think that. That duality or that complexity of all we, all of who we all are is key I. Tell my students at Middlebury that are. So the Latino Association, because they complain about being in the Latino compromise state of Vermont for four years, I say. Constantly feeling like they have to explain themselves, they have to represent who they are and I say you are the bridge people you're connecting. You know two cultures through your being, and we're critical people. You're creating that little web. That's happening, so I think The thing that I was taught. That was really in error was that I had to choose that it was either, or it's not either, or it's both and more. Thank you? Julia Alvarez from Portland lectures in two thousand fourteen. This has been literary arts. The archive project it's a retrospective of some of the most engaging talks from the world's best writers for more than thirty five years of Literary Arts in Portland Join US next time for the archive project, a literary arts production in collaboration with Oregon Public Broadcasting. To hear from the archive project, subscribe wherever you your podcasts support for the archive project. It provided by Cole Haan on a mission to feel your big ideas more at Cole Dot Com. Our show is produced by crystal Liguori for radio and podcast special thanks to the literary, Arts Staff, Board and community. This show would not be possible without them. 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Helwani Roadshow 1

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

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Helwani Roadshow 1

"Everyone. Lori one. This is incredible. I don't know what to say. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming. I am blown away by all of this truly. I really can't, thank you. All enough, welcome to the first ever I ever. I want he wrote show. I've been talking about doing this for at least five six years at my previous employer. I tried to get into this, and it just kind of moved a little slow and here, back in February, Elizabeth Daniel, Glenn and the rest of the team at ESPN came to me and said that they wanted to do. Are you kidding? I've been wanting to do this for years. And then they finally actually did it. And did they ever do it look at this guy? This is absurd. I am I'm speechless. I it's hard for me to even put this into words. I am. So I'm so humbled that you guys would actually take some time. I know you could do a lot of things tonight that you would actually pay to come here, this really means the world to me, and it's crazy that it's actually happening this week for multiple reasons I started this show, which of course originally, they want to know what the original name of the show was original ridgeville name for three episodes. Anyone? I don't expect you to know this. It was called fight house radio for three episodes. And then we found out that there was a gym in New York City called, White House so we had to change it. And so, I decided to call it the MA our and at the time it was just so when I saw this how it started I was working for AOL dot com. And I was there in New York City walking in the office, and I saw little room that had the setup with, like a little radio board, and some microphones and security camera and I asked my boss, can I do show here I do podcast this in two thousand nine and I was a big Howard Stern fan and I said I'd love to show like that, and he said, yes. Sure. And they richly said to me, I kid you not they said, all right? You could do a show, but it has to be no longer than fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes, and I was like fifty minutes. That's like my intro fifteen minutes. I need a lot more time. So we ended up calling it the our Iran, obviously, for around nine years. And so the first episode of that was. Believe top my head June. Nineteenth of two thousand nine so we're approaching the ten year anniversary of meat doing the show. Thank you. I wanted the show to be the show of record. I wanted it to be the top show. I don't want I hated the word podcast. I wanted to be the show and mixed martial arts. So I worked my ass off to get all the best names. The biggest guest book every single guest in the history of the show myself. And I'm damn proud of it. I don't. And I love doing it and I keep doing it. And so here's the other crazy thing. A year ago this week. I started at ESPN how crazy is that here? We are doing this. We're celebrating the tenure aaniversary of the show, the one year anniversary of coming over here, and I know everyone was afraid of change and everyone was worried about leaving. But I think it's worked out pretty damn good. I think we've had one of our better years. But here's the craziest part of it. All speaking of anniversaries, because I'm weird when it comes to years and dates yesterday was the three year anniversary that you guys saved my career. And you know what I'm talking about. You guys the people spoke up for me yesterday was the three anniversary of that. And I will never forget that. And that's why for as long as I am covering this court, I will work for you guys. You are all here and that we could celebrate this together. I mean figure that that's unbelievable. If it wasn't for you guys. There is no this I'm done. I'm outta here. You guys actually had my back. And that's that's something that I will forever want to repay you and will forever work to repay because I haven't repaid. I'm sure there are some of you that tweeted and did all that stuff. And so I wanna thank you for saving my career and for being here and for always supporting me because the fans have been the best. And so when they came to me with this idea, I said, all right, what are we going to do? We gotta make the special. This can't just be like your regular old, how show. So I, I thought let's just do an interview, and then we'll do a Q a but then it got a really great response. And people wanted to be a part of it. And so back in two thousand and twelve when I was working for Fox Sports, I did one trivia show for them. It was a UFC tonight's special UFC tonight, trivia, dishing, and four fighters were involved. I think Rashad Evans dominant. Cruise Michael biz ping and Kenny flooring. And it was a lot of fun. And they really liked it, and they got great feedback unfortunate in live in LA, and we couldn't really do more, but I've always felt that a trivia show for you. Have see would be really successful. So once I got a lot of feedback, and people want to be a part of it. I said, you know what? Let's bring back the trivia show. I think this could be fun who wants to see like an old interview you could see that every Monday on the show. Let's do something a little different. And so, I started to call a few of my friends and actually had to turn down some fighters, but the good news is this is not a one off. We're going to do more of these, and this is just the first one, and I'm so happy and excited to do it here. It's going to be amazing. I hope you already and the best part about it is you're going to be involved in this. You don't know this yet, but the audience is actually going to be involved in all of this. I hope you're paying attention to everything. It's going to be tricky great. I love you. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. I can't believe is happening. The real. All right. I know for me. You wanna meet the fighters. Let's go. All right. So we've got five of the best fighters in the world, you know, we listen. I I love everyone at east. I love all the shows. I'm a big fan, but the other shows peaches come and they have I bring you the best frigging fighters in the world. It's not about me, because my show has never been about me. It's always been about the fighters. Right. It's all interviews. It's me just sitting there and giving you like ranson and all that. No, it's been about them and their stories. And so. And here's the best part. These guys are really nervous. These are guys who actually fight for living in a cage, and they're super nervous. They're asking the questions. What are we gonna ask me about wonder boys? Trying to get me to change the whole thing. The Harry Potter trivia, back guys like super nervous about all this crazy. They fight in a cage for a living. So this is going to be great. I'm super excited about it. All. All right. So without further ado, let's. Call them up. First off, let's say Hello to the pride of Greenville, South Carolina. One of the very best welterweight in the world. The one and only. Even. There is no right over there at the end right over there. Stephen Thompson, the man right over here. Stephen thompson. Super nervous. All right. Next up. He is the winningest UFC heavyweight champion of all time is the pride of Ohio. Bang. Thank you very much. Next stop. He is turning into one of the very best broadcasters in mixed martial arts. They call him the Irish dragon. He is angling for fight you just the gate. She doesn't want to fight this, man, Justin gates said, no to this fan, but top lightweights in the world are running away from this man. You know, this fan is it's Paul freaking Felder. Jerry. In the house, and look at that beard, by the way. Look at builders beard beard. Tire. Next up. I got three words for you. The underground. Allege a former Bella tore champion of former UFC champion and a suit to be one chat track the pride of. Eddie Alvarez in the house. My man Eddie Alvarez the one and only look at this lineup. So richly they said to me, let's just do four and I said, no, we can't do four we gotta do five. We gotta have the fab five men will go down in history, when they are inducted into the hall of fame on their plaque. It will say that they took part in the first ever, how Lonnie road show. And so we have one more. He has taken the UFC by storm ever since the historic trade late last year he submitted. And yes, I said he submitted ruthless Robbie Lawler. He submitted him. I saw you side thought and you side and on July seven he's strolling to Las Vegas to take down game bread fighter. He is the mandate co funky. He is the one and only Ben aspirin. Ben aspirin in the house. Coming down. So I said close enough to lie six close enough there sure on sale. Soak it in who gives you this who gives the great thing about this guy's. We sold this place out before one of these days were announced. That's how great you guys are. This is amazing guys. Thanks for coming Steven. How are you? I'm going great man. Glad to be here party. What you got. Scale one to ten how nervous are you do? I'm actually kinda nervous. I had no idea what to expect. What kind of trivia, I'm the war like you said, if it's not, Harry Potter trivia, I'm the worst, but you gotta have a loser. You know what I'm saying? I'm here to hang out and have a good time. So here you are sitting next to steep shoes. Very large, fellow and backstage was telling me that he's gonna whip all your asses. Is that accurate, C bullshit? Terrible to say you're, you're sort of level of knowledge. You have trivia dumb is showing comes watch. That's how we have here. Exactly. Someone has to lose scapegoat. Yes. How are you doing to August? Seventeenth coming up feeling Bobak. That's called Calder is it true. All the lights in the UFC are running from you is that true. I don't think that's true. Come on. Come on. Come on. Live it up a little bit. Yeah. Well, you know, I put it out there that anybody above me is, you know, who I want next, obviously, I to just in our Edson and Justin was the winner of that fight. I said that before that fight ever happened. I said that, if that happened, I will call out the winner and when I'm face to face, or that guy. I'm gonna say that to him. So I don't know it got a little blown out of proportion. I wanna fight the guy. I don't think it's that big of a deal where where on. He did. Well, yes, far as I know they've said, heard it, he said, no, he said, no, he said. No. So you have something or not yet not yet. No idea was night. We'll get you something. But I'm talking about. Gets done. I'm going to call up Sean Shelby. Dana my boy, you're we might leave. Eddie alvarez. How're you doing? My man. I'm excellent. Lot of underground underground fancy. I love it. It's amazing. It's amazing. And when are we going to see you back? Eddie, not nuns nounce yet. But I'm thinking, I'm thinking what you did did a little rope a dope. You were like, oh, hey, you one guys you think that you can hang, then you come back. They're gonna win the damn turn belts. Right. Did. I know what you were doing. Yeah. I gotta win the sympathy. I it's right. And your boy, Marlin is fighting tomorrow Marlin will win the UFC title. He will win the if you guys are if you're betting fans you heard it for me, I'm giving you tip while Amar will win the. All right. There you have it been asked him. We know you got your busy man to lie. Six seven not the seven to six and I I've ever had tomorrow. Wrestled together. That's right. That's how the Olympia has got to stick together. Right. I think so. That's fair. That's right. So you think he's gonna win? Yes. Tough fight. But I we were debating his antics backstage, you don't like the antics. They're giving it his all. Yeah. Always like this. No. And he said it was bullshit. You know, he's trying he's trying is four miles. But I'll say your name at some point or is he gonna continue to just ignore? What is this yours? Yeah, yeah. Who cares July? Seventh relevant. Okay. All right, guys. So this is it you want to hear the rules. You guys have no idea. What's going on? All I know. All right. This is what's going on. So we got three around here this is for the very prestigious, the very pro yes, Daniels remind I'll get to that in a second. This is for the very prestigious end up. Uh-huh. Have you way championship? The nose were order. All right. Guys this soak it in this, the winner starts here. Yes, you want. Wanna you want that you gotta win at the end up your choice. It's gonna sit right over here. Now I'm gonna run down. And then I'm gonna do your thing. I don't worry my man. All right. So this is this is the, the rundown three rounds. My friends, all right? The first round twenty five questions. Okay. Twenty five questions. Twenty five here. Listen steep bay. All right, geez. It's gonna go fast. Don't worry. So we've gotta go down the line. So let's ask you a question, right. Random question. If you know the answer, you get a point, right? If you don't know the answer. He could steal it. Only the guy to write could steal it or or. I'm or every round, you get an ask a member of the audience, you can ask someone in the audience just once around to help you out, you could pick someone they'll come to the mic and they can help you out. All right. So that's the first round pretty easy. Correct. Now here's a nice little. Here's a nice little wrinkle for some of you hardcore. Yes. Go ahead. You need to use the microphone CPA. Jeez. Louise. Sorry. So when you ask the question that we need help, can you go back to. So they're out one time one time. Okay. All right. Got it. So choose wisely. Rako for all of you. Okay. For longtime fans of the sport, you're gonna come if you get picked you're gonna go to a microphone. Do you know who will be greeting you at said microphone, New York rag creek yard, quick, New York? Rick, New York quick quick, quick, New York Rick has been with me since two thousand twelve and now a couple months ago he kind of left behind dry but tonight, we're making them work near Greg. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you, my friend? Amazingly a year ago this week was my last week and fighting and they called New York record said you wanna continue on the show and you know what he said, I'm not continuing if aerials not there, is that a good friend. That's my God. Loyalty, that's guy. So New York Rick is the official score keeper. And he'll be the guy who will give you the microphone. Thank you. Good to have you here in. You're all right now, before we get going with this, let me just do this very quickly. I wanna give special shout out to our good friends over at vivid seats without them. None of this would be possible. Let's give it up. Vivid seats. As you all know we all love good night out, whether it seeing our favorite bet just bear with me for a second. Right. Senior favorite band. If you know how much I love doing this in person or being there in the crowd, cheer on our favorite team. Toronto. Raptors. About. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Comes to my face and say that, right? Vivid seats, you could attend the concert show or sporting event of your choice at a great price. Fizi top source for tickets for all the live events you wanted to go to get some music notes. Okay. You could sort by price or look for seats in the section. Rogue your choice to make things even better vivid seats giving listeners. Oh come on aerial for. Box set for the pay the bills. Finey. Go to the store Google play. Here you go. This is the thing. Just download the vivid seats app. Use the code knockout. Knock out for tech percent off. All right. We love him. It seed support them because they support us. All right. Let's get going. All right. You guys ready. Let's go. All right. I got I got a request issues as burgers to make this fair. I think we should play it like a game pig. So if someone misses the next guy keeps getting the chance of someone of that what if any what if any gets them? All right. That I don't get any chances this number one bullshit thing. Cpa has dinner date to get to. Oh man. Let's see how it goes. All right. Got a slow that could be banking on your Eddy, working against me. I don't know. Dorn all right. Here we go. I kinda gory first category. We're starting very easy if you guys don't get these. I mean, honestly, I'm going to be, I'm going to be very, very disappointed. All right. You f c fighter nicknames. All right. I category, remember, if you get a wrong, he gets it or you can ask a friend, you ready for this, this fighter nicknamed the cookie monster. By the way, don't tell them guys don't ruin this was the first champion in the history of their division. Yes. Cookie monster talking to my cooking podcast. Sonnenfeld afterwards. Can I give my first guy to come up -absolutely pick anyone in the crowds? I right. Here did lay it on us. Go to New York, Rick and help brother out and let us know what's your name where you're from? I can't believe you don't know this wonderboy. All right. This is very easy. But it's okay, I'm gonna help you out here to one hundred percent. What's your name? Where are you? Sorry, JP. I'm from Libertyville, Illinois. Give it up for. By the way, you are the man, the best guy in the business. You're the one who gets these guy, so yes, thank you. Thank you. All right. So it's one hundred percent. Carla esparza. Do you want? Do you wanna go with Carlos bars that you believe him? Yes, I do. I got you. I believe this is correct. It far as JT. My man good job. And I got something J P. This is for the first six right JP all the guys sign this. You get this being a good sport. So that's one point for Mr. wonderboy Thompson. Okay. Number two, this for CPA this fighter and remember, don't don't don't ruin this. Okay. This fighter nicknamed the Irish dragon can be seen both in the octagon and behind the booth. Don't miss this up. All right. Except for the boys. Read it again. This fighter nickname bee Irish dragon can be seen both in the at the. Final answer, Paul Felder. One, one. Paul filled there. This fighter nickname, the natural born killer is a former W E C. And interim you have welterweight champion one of my all time favorites Carlos Condit. Going. Well, things are going well, all right. Here we go. You ready? Eddie Alvarez this fighter nickname. My Hata has been in the UFC it's two thousand thirteen and actually wears his nickname on his chest. My head. Machete, machete. His nickname is my head. Talk into the mic talk into the mic. All right. He's going going to ask you for using them up in the first round. All right. Tell us where you're from. And what's your name guys, I'm from Brooklyn? All right. Brooklyn house. I on. Shift. My name is said, all right. Are you gonna go with his answer those? Yeah. I believe him already is correct. Jago. I got something for you in New York. It's gonna give it to you right over there. All right. Last one in this category. Ben, Astro Ben aspirin, this fighter nicknamed the happy warrior appeared on two seasons of Yeltsin? It fighter my wife liked this lady for some apparent reason, and Amy, what's her name? Your wife. Are you kidding? That's the friend your lady. That gives you the answer that doesn't work. You guys all talking about. You can ask your wife. Roxanne modifier. Telling me Eddie this. That's take any, this is going to be on your mantle. All right. I'm gonna get serious. Now. All right. You gotta right rock. Talk about all right after that round. What do we got? We've got a tie. We got. Everybody's got one point. All right. It's getting a little tougher now. All right. You ready? Stephen getting a little tougher the category, you have see trilogies. You have see trilogies. All right. So I'm going to give you three events and you have to tell me who are the guys that fought those three events. All right. You see on FOX one UFC one fifty five and you have one sixty six UFC trilogies. There haven't been too many. One. You see on FOX one UFC one fifty five. You have C one sixty six. You haven't asked a friend yet. Or have you. You did. All he has. He already asked a friend. Fox FOX FOX one, you have C one fifty five sixty six ten seconds to go. Ten nine. Hey, seven six five. Take a guess. No, I. Who is it? I screwed it up. Who's that? Oh, you do. Yes, you can. Talk into the mic. I feel like I'm gonna say about Ferguson, the heavyweight division. I'm gonna go with JD s I came. Feels. He was he's ready to win. The steel gets another question. Can I sit next to wonderboy? You. You see fifty US sixty five seventy nine trilogies. Let me give you have fifty sixty five and seventy nine one of the all-time, great trilogies. Fifty sixty five and seventy nine steep Ennio. Check just stole it from wonderboy Thompson has two points now. Let's go. See bay fifteen seconds left. You can ask a friend right away. All right. All right. Right. More time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fifty sixty five seventy nine you have fifty sixty five seventy nine ten nine help help. Okay. Sure. Are we got to go to the mic to my Tulsa, who you are where you're from and tells the answer here we go? Here we go. All right. My name's Qasim here from Chicago north side. Albany park spec. And it's net Hughes and GSP. You wanna you wanna he's going with it. He's right. All right. Pole filter you're up. You see flight night, eleven you have C one twenty five one thirty six. You have one twenty five C one thirty six you have fight night eleven. This is an easy one, Paul. Felder. Broadcaster. Say them again. See fight night, eleven have see one twenty five one thirty six one of the great trilogies of all time. I can't believe this Felder. I thought you would get this in a second. Has Paul asked the friend yet? He has not. You don't have to write down here. All right. What do we what do we got my man? Well, done well done polls going to ask a friend, let's see if he gets a right, you have fight night eleven. You see one twenty five and you have C one thirty six. What's your name? Where are you from? I'm seeing Biondo originally from downers grove, Illinois wins pretty simple. It's Frankie Edgar works. Great mainers. Are you going with it? Yeah he is. Right. All right. Eddie. Alvarez UFC forty three. You have fifty to fifty seven. Man forty three fifty to fifty seven this Randy Koto r- and Randy verse. Was chuckling del by letter finally answer now that. All right. Ben ask her you have fifty nine you have C one. Oh, six. You have C one forty eight. You have fifty nine UFC one. Oh, six. You have C one forty eight. You're going with it. Talking to the mic talking to the mic. I did ask friend. All right. Go ahead. Wide. You'll see one forty it was Chilver Sanderson, but they didn't fight three times in another question since I got it, right. He's got another stolen stolen foot. Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Then you can ask your wife. Yeah. No, no. Does does rocks fifty nine one zero six one forty eight? You're going to ask a friend. Who knows it. All right. I just this guy was trustworthy, right here. This guy's wearing your shirt back there. You choose them. Jeez. You look more trust. Shane from cedar go down tomorrow. Ortiz and Griffin. There it is. What do you say do you like it? Yes. Or no. Tito Ortiz and Forrest Griffin to your Forrest Griffin. He is correct. Well done. All right near Greg, give us the update. What do we got in the lead after two rotations steep Amyot chick? We've got Ben Paul Eddie with two points and Steven wonderboy tension, pulling up the rear wonderful here we go. Next category. Emma may gyms. You guys are Jim rats. You'll know this easy. All right. Wonderboy ready, which Jim home to the bad guy child piece. Sunan my guy, Chelsea son, and let's give it up for sale son fighting next week. Was founded by Randy tour, and Dan Henderson in nineteen ninety nine. Tors. Jim, you say it was it was founded on a tour down Henderson in nineteen ninety nine former home to the bad guy chill p. It's not the I'm thinking old school man like lines in final answer. No. He's just not a second round. Right. This is the same right? You can't ask. Yeah. I know man. It's all you. It's all you see. You want to steal it. You wanna see what you don't even throw one out. I have no idea. Oh my gosh. What do you got? What do you do? You want to steal it. I did too. I just couldn't. You want to talk to the mic talking to the mic. All right. I can't tell you. Ten nine eight. Seven six. Pressure to one poll Felder Steeler Steeler in Oregon. And I can't remember my God team. Quest. Give you a point that ask your boy. Team quiz. Ques- jeez. Louise exist. I think it does still exist. All right. Here we go Oregon back to you this gym opened in nineteen Ninety-one. It is based in Quebec. My home province back. Try it features head coach for us a hubby and star TriStar. Boom. All right. Here we go. Here we go. This gym based in Florida was the winner of the only Jim versus Jim season, the ultimate fighter two thousand fifteen. I know about those gyms I'm trying to think who won the competition blacks aliens final answer. Yes, wrong, do you want to feel it? America's healthy. Well. Wait. Where was Kamal from wasn't that part of that competition? He's on the Brassica. Paul St. broke is see say mcgregor's. He wanted one team won the whole thing. Oh, God Conor McGregor Conor. Mcgregor is home. Gym is SPG Arlen coach by John Cavanaugh. What does SP stand for? Probably. I got this. Who gives a full? Over. I guess, still one. I'll let you still that. I don't wanna like it adds. I think mcgregor's not there anymore. He's hanging out with pokers and whatnot. Whereas all that they want straight blast gym, and ask her and gets the point field. And finally, Ben which resilient, Jim with head coach at former title, challenger Andre pet heiress has produced Josie Aldo Edinburgh. Novo. And your quick. Give us the update. After our third rotation. Ben aspirin, leading the way with five ski bay with four Eddie with three Paula to and wonder voice still with what? All right. You guys are gonna get this one borrow the next the second to last one unique submissions, unique submissions. You'll be great. All right. Wonderful. What's what submission now made famous by Vince Saint Peru was first performed named after an ultimate fighter one alum on wonderful. You got this. Over in Saint Peru. No, it's not. I guess to get team. Even come on. I know this free throw this. You see it. You see it. Are you kidding me? Fifteen seconds, closer come closer seconds. Come on this show. It's submission flu. Man. They all doubted you wonder boy, they all doubted you point for times. All right. Steve CB Delaware landed this submission against Jesse. Taylor. In two thousand eight pines a choke and. It was that tie. Necktie. Whatever the lesser. Yes. Peru. Yes. All right, fielder. The Korean zombie chance on junk submitted Leonard Garcia in two thousand eleven with which you need some mission that shares the same name as a nineteen ninety six movie. Twister. All right. Here we go. Here we go. Eddie. You you're going to get this. You're gonna get this order here. So this is not. I'm not Eddie. You're going to get this. If you don't get be so disappointed. You have to Twenty-eight last September. So which maneuver pulled off twice by algebra sterling and the beat muggle med. Sherry paul. It was it was. It was. I don't wanna mess it up. But it was it was a knee bar from from behind the official name. Eddie. Come on. Come on. You know it. Yeah. He had the back. Now should we give it to him? I mean you got the move should we give it to him? It's called the Ben doesn't like this. It's called the Soula web stretch. Solo have stretch the web. Yes. All right. Final line say that Charles Oliveira was the first fighter to compete complete the submission doing so Eric wisely in Chicago in two thousand twelve what does the submission, Charles Oliveira, the first one have history to get this? Everett. Triangle final answer probably. You never liked the look choice. I can't ask for inverted triangle, invert. Triangle finite, sir. Will you steal it? Okay. You're wrong, by the way. Charles Oliveira was the first fighter to complete the submission doing. So gets Eric wisely in Chicago two thousand twelve it's coming. Was the only one to finish it. I won. I won. Is it? Ten. Was it like a flying lotto? Other steel. You said. Okay. Don't. Ezekiel no wrong puff elder. I'm not sure it was a calf slicer the calf side. All right. Uruguay where we going into the final one Ben with five steeper with five Eddie with four pole for Stephen to all right? Here we go. This is all right, guys. Here we go. Last one quotes famous quotes last one of the first round this is the move onto the second round. There's three rounds. This big. All right. Here we go. Ready wonderboy? I'm not surprised mother. Nadir's. Well done. A beat their Daniel. There you go. All right. Here we go. I'm glad you won that fight met, but I'm not impressed by your performance. Your boy, GSP boy, the greatest of all time. All right. Here we go. Paul. Felder. Anderson, Silva, you absolutely tell on. Child p my guy. All right. Eddie, ready? I hope to God, you come ready. Because if you don't, I'm going to beat you into living death. I hope to God, you come ready. Because if you don't have to beat you into John Jones, final answer wrong, Ben. Then what do you got going on? Again wrong. Wonderboy. You can actually pecan actually make a comeback. If you steals everyone's say, one more time. Okay. I hope to God, you come ready. Because if you don't go to beat you into a living death, by the way is not gonna speak, you send him before you said his Jim before did I really did. A history. The fuck Jack. Ten nine eight seven six five four. To catch. I have to say pay has surprised me this afternoon. The chair break. Unbelievable. By the way, that we had a feel like we had a feel like this was going to happen. Sorry about that. Cpa you got excited. All right. So Ben this last one for you. I'm going to drink a cores light. That's right. A course but, like pay me nothing. And there's another part that I'm not gonna say, come on. I may even with rest. No no home ago. Why did he say? Homage, your wife. Is that what he said, what did he say? He said, I'm gonna go home or get on top of my wife said, Brock Leser rock less there every wide. All right. And around one where where we at steep. Got a new chair for you. Check it out. We've we've got. What he doesn't have a chair. Oh, yeah. Oh, I have a chair. All right. New york. What do we got? We've got we've got the man in the formerly small chair steep bay in the lead with seven. We've got Ben in second place with six Paul in third with five Eddie in fourth with four and then Stephen in last place. You're going to hang out with us still here. You're no longer a part of the. All right. So the championship is in yours. Your hang out. Hang up. You can hang out unless you wanna leave. I'm hanging did you have fun blast? All right. Well, let's give it up for Stephen tops and everyone talks down to four year. Quick, who's first who's fourth steep is isn't I and Eddie is in fourth. Okay. So this is what we're gonna do Eddie and Paul Felder switched seats for me. If you don't mind. All right. The next round is called the newlywed round the newlywed round. So this man is in first place. This man is in fourth place. This man is in second place. No six second place, third-place steep is going to have to answer questions about the great career of one, Eddie Alvarez Eddie Alvarez is going to have to answer questions about the great career of CBO CBOT Paul fell. There's going to have to answer questions about Ben band. Paul you get it. But here's the good news guys. Here's the good news. You're asking friends are back and one and better news. Every right answer is now two points. All right. Here we go. Yes. All right. Here we go. You guys ready. So this one's for CPA. Who's having fun? I love you guys. This is absurd. I can't believe we're doing this what day of the week that Alvarez defeat the Joe's to win the UFC white title two thousand sixteen. What day of the week did Eddie Alvarez pull this off? Was yes it was a UFC fight night. What day of the week? Talking to that ask questions. ESPN spelling bees, asking questions. It was more of a, you know, like. If you wanna just talk into the mic CPA for the fans at home what the week. I'm curious the way your mind is working here because obviously, you know, you'd probably want to say, Saturday, right exactly what I say. On Wednesday nights. What's what's the score now? What am I you're up one during the lead with seven? But Ben is right on your heels with six. Ten crazy crazy here. I don't I don't care. I'm crazy. Good. Crazy. Friday. Eddie, what's the right answer? Thursday, Thursday third. There's that was one was Thursday Friday Saturday, that we tried to those three in a row. All right. Eddie, this one is about steep. Amyot. All right. In two thousand fifteen set the record for most strikes landed in a single flight with three hundred sixty one against what opponent, what opponent did this. Big man land, three hundred sixty one strikes easy for you. Maybe he wasn't watching that day. Maybe he was with his kids, maybe watching the Phillies which opponent. Got it. I feel coming out what, what was the date two thousand fifteen set the record for most strikes landed in a UFC fight three sixty one against what opponent. Ten nine junior dose on us. Final answer. Thinking for breezy out pretty quick. I don't think Jade JD JD is finalized. So what's the answer? Right. All right. All right. Okay. Paul. Or you're up next ready for this, this is a question about, by the way aren't you teammates? We've never trained together. Oh. Okay. It's not awkward in two thousand ten Ben aspirin made his bell toward debut, fighting witch opponent nicknamed that tank engine in his first two fights, tag kill them, doggone I can actually see that venue from Airbnb. That's cool story about Hank. Tank. The tank engine that tank engine Bela Tor debut, come on, and I'm you're going to call one of his fights in the very near future in the near future. I'm not calling next. This was really the newlywed game you guys does anybody in here for divorce. Can I go to? Oh, yes, you can't. You got you got you actually know this bulb go up to the Mike your name where you're from. I ruined Zohair from Pakistan. All right. All right. Ryan Thomas, you wanna go with Ryan Thomas. Yes, that is correct. In two thousand fifteen this Ben aspirant Paul Felder became the third fighter and you have see history to win a fight with, which maneuver, when he defeated Danny Castilla you have one eighty to one eighty two which maneuver depaul Felder used to defeat Danny steel how many rounds this are there. This is the second to last up this, this specific four four. Okay. I think it was a spinning back. Elbow. Analyzer. Yes. Wrong hall. What was it? What was it Paul bending back fists? I know there have. Eddie Alvarez is the only fighter in history to achieve which feet in both. You have and Bella tour. Champion final answer. Yes, you don't seem convince you don't seem very confident. Yeah. Steve as rights. That was the least sure answer of planting the seed of doubts Depaix. All right. Here we go at steep abo was just tied was seven Struve for the most post-flight bonuses by a heavyweight and UFC history with how many how many post-flight bonuses does this man have? Tied in heavyweight, or, or Taibbi, wait history. I'm gonna say five final answer. Six. Yes. Correct. It's eight. All right now, we're going back to Mr Paul Felder. All right, Paul, yes. No, no, no. All right area. I can't even. What did Ben aspirin win as the most outstanding collegiate wrestler, at the university of Missouri two thousand six two thousand seven all American. I know. Wait. No, obviously had a point. Say it again. What award winners the most outstanding collegiate wrestler, at the university of Missouri in two thousand six two thousand seven. Can I steal point? No, I'm on up here, say that, oh said again, one more time what a war depend asking win as the most. Outstanding collegiate wrestler at the university of Missouri. Two thousand six two thousand seven. It's a very prestigious award. Ask the friend, right. Or did. What was it Ben Hodge trophy, Hodge trophy, never even heard you never heard of it? What it dick? All right. Now we go to sorry can't pair for these. All right. Here we go. Paul Felder has had four fights at four different countries USA, Canada, Brazil, and what other country. Probably ireland. He's Irish dragon. I don't see why not your final answer. Yeah. What is it Scotland it is? That's close. It's like safe. This is a lot. They're hearing. Here we go ready for this. All right. Here we go. What way classified as that? Eddie Alvarez coach during season twenty six of the altered fighter two thousand seventeen weight class did Eddie Alvarez coach season. Twenty six a somewhat historic sees. I can't yes. Yeah. What we class halfway there. The prestigious N W O title on the line. The historic very first Hawaii road show. One more one more after this. Yes. Ten I'm ask for help. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. We asking. This man right over here. Let's go, buddy. Here we go. Are you wearing a shirt that says, ju ju Jesse Jess? All right. Close enough. One track mind, my bad, my bad. I'm jewish. You're sure is how right you're bad. All right. What do you what's your name? Where are you from Quinn, opiates? I'm from Rockford. Okay, cool. What's the answer? Talking to the one in way going with it. I know it's the man hooked you up, man. All right. Eddie, eddie. Here we go. What Cleveland's sports franchise won a major title after steep. Emmy otas won the heavyweight title two thousand sixteen sports. Come on. Whatever. Are you serious? You can have. To give her ear. Sorry. I don't watch sports guys is horrible. Wow. The Cleveland Cavaliers draw the man. That's her name, where are you from what's her name Vinnie? I'm from Addison Illinois. Well done. My man. Now, let's go back. You didn't know that. Paul. You ready for that? All. What submission hold did? Ben aspirin defeat Robbie Lawler. In his debut bulldog jokes. Well, the bulldog show. Bad about the other one, you didn't know that Danny Hodge one. All right. Here we go. You ready for this Ben in his last fight? Paul Felder battled through what injury to defeat James Vick at you have fight night, Phoenix. Like I feel like I'm gonna get almost there. I know. He's was all jacked up. I ask a friend, so I don't have yet this who knows right here. What's your name where you from man bulldog joke? Danny. I'm from Chicago. Punctured lung. That was definitely a punctured lung. I remember that my friends are we going with that? Now Paul the long has to be punctured to puncture, but are we giving them? I'll get that. All right, great, the last round of questions here, give us an they were at before we go out to this round or this game based got four no, no. The whole shebang. Okay. So steep. As got eleven Paul's got nine Benz got nine because I gave them a half credit for spinning back. Elbow credit Eddie's got six what he was close. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. This is it, this is it, it just follow along van. Right. Housing. Housing. All right. Here we go. Ready thousand nine two thousand ten Eddie Alvarez made two appearances on what MTV show hosted by Jason mayhem Miller. Mike. Breen likes to say. All right. Ready? Eddie. This is big. All right. You ready? What sports did? Steep abo church participate in at college at Cleveland state, and travek Nasreen baseball. He I know baseball was one of them. Yeah. Wrestle. Wrestle center bang. Eddie algebra's well done Paul Felder you ready for this? You ready for this? Yes. All right. Here we go. Listen, it's just the luck of the draw. Don't hate me for this question. Okay. What nickname has been asking us to describe current? UFC welterweight champion Comorros. Mardi Nebraska there. There you go. Give me an easy want to here we go. All right. Here we go. Paul Felder appeared on what hit sitcom in two thousand seventeen alongside Cowboys. Aronie. Watch TV. Have you phoned a friend yet? What hit sitcom that Paul Felder appear in two thousand seventeen alongside cowboy surrounding fights tomorrow night? Always sunny in Philadelphia. After. Yes, there you go, wherever help them out cheating qualified, right? Check that out trying. You're not cheating. All right. Where we at your Greg, where we at going at around three steep in the lead with thirteen. Paul, and Ben with eleven each and eight. All right. So that means we've got a tie-break here. All right. Okay. So Paul, I'm Ben. That's correct. Okay. So let's go to Paul. Paul. You gotta ask another one about Ben here came prepared for this. See that. All right. You ready for this? Ben aspirin has won titles in bell tower and one championship. How many combined eh make title defenses has been asking made to advance to the finals? To advance to the finals. Okay. I'm gonna say eight you're going to say eight final answer final answer. I believe it. Oh my God. I am blown away. I 'cause I. So. Yes. Blown away here. All right. Keep us out of guests that right? Then you keep this alive with this pole filter has one sixty and fights in his career. How many have come via submission? To keep it alive. Ben telephone to keep it alive savant on the ground. So. ADM. Sorry didn't work out. I'm gonna go with. To you're going to is that your final answer Suga last. Is your final? Oh, I'm just asking. I'm just trying to build to you're going to find a Lancer. Yes, paul. How many one? Paul. Tell us to what's that. Der Kolk Shane. So that means you're quick, going into the finals, Mike. Correct them believing that it is steep. And Paul Felder Perec's ban. All right around Eddie, your legend the love you remember when you said to me, I wouldn't come. See you in Kensington, what did I do? I got on in a car with estrin Casey who I think are somewhere here. We went to freaking Kensington, right? That who does that too armed guards. Yeah, that's fine. All right around this is it. Let's break out the whiteboards for this. Let's go. Let's go guys. Let's hear for the finalist. Pole folder. Not spill. Well, all right, guys. It's the final round ready for this. No. This is what we're doing four. Yes. He's talking to me. Okay. Yes, yes, this is what the score in the raptors game day for me. All right. Here we go. Here we go here. Go all right. You ready for this final? This is the speed round. This is the speed round guys. We're putting one point. But this is it. We're putting forty five seconds on the clock. All right. Forty five seconds on the clock. Not Forty-six dot forty seven forty five in forty five seconds, you have to write down as many. You have see champions in the history of the company that comes to mind, not doing it as many come to mind, and forty five seconds, one point per now you can have the same you can have the same. You just have to get them. Right. So you can have twenty he can have exact same twenty twenty. How many points Paul Felder have going into the final round? Paul elder has eleven how many points steep, I have going to the final around has thirteen Mike. God CPA sign of things to come. Perhaps what do you mean? No, I'm trying to say the sign of things to come for seventeen all right? Here we go. Way way. I gotta put my clock. This is how we're doing this. All right. One second forty five. Yes. What, what? Games. What? You can't help each other. Right. The whatever you want as long as I know I go get my stop watch. Are we ready for these guys? Are we ready? You got it. I'll do it here. So I could see it. All right. Here we go. Again. Forty five seconds as many chances that you could get. All right. Here we go in three two one go all right? Here we go. The writing down. Forty five seconds as many by the way, the tournament champions, back in the day, count, you have to have gone to belts. All right. Champion built champion history of the you have fifteen seconds, fifty seconds. No multiple champions. You get to your to your guy. You're multiple. All right. Here we go. Here we go. All right. We're approaching thirty second marks. So that means we have almost fifteen seconds left in the history. Sixty minutes. Does interim count. Interim does not count. Titles are fake bells. Oh. Filter cheating filter cheating taking for that kind Felder. All right. Let's go turn over Pence down. All right. CPA read it to us. Here we go. Number one. I me JD Kane. C. J. D. Cain. Yes. DC. No one point. Did you see? Ortiz, Ladele Griffin, although McGregor. So boy does account up chappie. Joba silvo. Okay. For. For man here. Elvas mighty just be. All right. So how many is that? Let's count them. Fifteen fifteen for steep. Amyot ch fifty. Paul. What do you go? What do you God? Steep. A pen, GSP crews dillashaw. Mighty mouse Cain. Eddie Alvarez Connor Germain Holly. And that's germane. You actually picture main. I'm impressed. That's the most random one. How many is that? How many is that? Eleven eleven. What are we? What do we had? Wait. It's not over. Currently we've got steep bay with twenty eight. Yes. And we've got Paul with twenty two. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You think it's over. But it's not over it's over. But it's not over why Paul it's not over. You know why, why not over thirty seconds on the clock. Thirty of the call, you could pick one fan you pick one fan if they get as many they add to your final cow. You could still make it happen. You understand. So you got to pick up guy in the crowd. You got to pick a guy thirty seconds, you can add to his final, you can add K C bigger guy who you got who you got. All right. I'm going. Got going. Which guy all right? Yes, there you go. Who's your guy? Paul, who's guy this guy, right here who's shirt? Okay. Here we go your Greg. I got things for them right here. I got the things you're giving them that given that. All right. All right. I started. Okay. Where are you from buddy from where you from? Ryan from carry Illinois. All right. Bryan, Ryan, where are you from buddy tells you guys can't be next to each other? Boards a race. What did you raise your Greg? But you remember down. Go ahead. My name's I'm from Chicago. I feel I'm the only one from Jakarta are I respect respect? All right. Thirty seconds on the board. Thirty seconds of the board. They. Does this, this is it is it, but it has to be different than the ones that he named you know, that right? Dorigo one ready ready has to be different boom, go, here we go. You can add to his final you can short, Eric what was it again? What's the cows while we're going? Twenty eight for St. bay twenty two for Paul twenty eight twenty two Paul Twenty-eight for steep may twenty two guys doing pretty well for you, Paul. I know very confident way. Classes, women women think women. All right. We're at twenty six seconds three two one. I'm what do we what do we got? I got megs rose Joanna Carlin Nico. Oh, how many bad? That that's six. I think that's my man. All right. Add six to see pay at six. What do you? Good. Pulver Rhonda Machida, who Silva, Shevchenko nude. Carlos do Canada's on, how many is that seven seven near quick seven for Paul fell there, put it on the board? What's the final final tally, Paul Twenty-nine steep bay? Thirty four. Wow. I saw. The raining. The fending. This is what's worse me, dropping the belt, or you taking the belt away from Dana, white at giving it coach in one of the all time, boss move. As their steep abo chits, hold it up to the people. Knows order. Wow. I'm Steve bay beyond. Are you shocked that you on this? So my, so, my wow, let's give it up for these guys. This has been amazing. I am very very, very happy with this. Did you guys have fun wonder why feels like you? You like left us, like forty five minutes ago. I told you before I got here, I'm the worst of this kind of crabs. So I'm here. I'm here for the old college, try Stephen wonderboy tops, give it up for this. Abo chips, give it up for the chan-. Eddie Alvarez the underground paying Paul Felder Ben ask these guys could be doing anything right now. They could be going out to dinner. They give you doing. They came to be here with us. These are mentioned right here, right? These are great people. Thank you so much guys guys for having. Oh, thank you, very nice of you. Very nice on your job. Here is done. Thank you guys. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Paul. Thank you so much. Then you're the man as the champ. If you could just leave the belt on the bag because I have one of those that'd be great. All right. Daniel. How are we doing on time pretty good? We're doing good right that worked out. All right. One last thing to go. It's going to be a Q and A. If you guys wanna ask any questions, I hope you had fun. I'm here for you for the next fifteen or so minutes. We'll answer some questions that immediately afterwards. Right. Daniel, we'll do the meeting greed in the back. So we've thank you for that. Thank you, Elizabeth. There's Elizabeth one of the unsung heroes of our team puts it all together. We got a lot of unsung heroes here the team in the house. The ESPN MA squad taking over. It's not just end up here. It's the whole squad doing it amazingly. All right. So if you have a question, what are we gonna do near creek? We're gonna go, they're going to go there. All right. If you have a question, come to your if you wanna ask something if you don't wanna ask anything, but you just get on with us and go to the back. But if you do I'm here for you for the next fifty minutes. Anything goes, all right? We'll develop a little bit of a Q here and say, Hello. And again, thank you to everyone. I hope you're having fun. I love you. All right. My man. What do you got my name Steven Jensen? I'm from Nashville. Tennessee. See what happened to pre back as anyone have any idea that is a great question, prebaked man. So if you don't know way back in the day, Creebec was the guy who did he did, what was it imitations on the show? He had an amazing lead Ishmail. Why is that guy keeps saying area like that? Like what do you want what you want? I'm right here. My man. I'm right here. All right. Volleyed yet. All those things. He was he was amazing. He was incredible. I don't know what happened to him. I honestly don't know. I get that question all the time. People ask me all the time. I have no idea where you went he lived in Brooklyn. He moved to San Diego and I've not heard from him since. And I'm sad about that. You're creek get on that, right? Pre bag. I'm on it. All right. Next up from Brooklyn. No question, bust request stop bringing alley near show, bro. Say it again. One more time. I'll eat the manager bring your head, so we stop having them on. Should it be banned for life? Should he be bad for live? As of right now. He is banned for life. He's bad for life. Breathe. Might go bisbee. Michael bisque thing, all right. There you go. Thank you, my friend. Grayson from Tennessee. Hello, jason. So big question for you. So obviously you've last name redacted. We could say that whatever you wanna say fighting right? They're going to keep going. I know a lot of people think like, oh, they're dead all stuff. No. They've got a great team. They're very happy for everyone there, and I think the more outlets more people covering the sport, the better for the sport. So I do not wish. I know all you people think that I'm trying to. I'm not trying to kill my friends. Yeah. Yeah, that's silly. But so what do you think about the fact that so many good people have left the outlet that you came from and are continuing to leave what happens for the idea of independent journalism separate from the UFC obviously, you are ESPN, and you're, you're still being very honest about the things that you say that you want to put out there, what happens for independent journalism now that so many of the big players have left that. Field and went on to work for US PM. What happens journal? Honestly, there's only like three full-time writers that PIN a lot of them went to the athlete. Right. Right. It's still fighting may junkie. There's sure dog there's Yahoo. So I don't get this idea that there's no independent journalism, and we're certainly independent. That's why you know, you see our, our social media handles ESPN MA, our Instagram or Twitter, things like that. We're covering the sport of mixed martial arts. And I think we're doing pretty damn good job of it. So I don't feel like any conflicts or anything like that. I understand the concern. But don't worry about me. My man, I keep at one hundred as the kids like to say. What's on your mind? That's right. I am lit gain from Chicago. Again. What's up, Danny? So. What do you now you're Chicago? So you gotta make a tough choice, Chicago, deep dish, or New York, New York all day. Chicago. Kate. I don't want to have that. What's on your mind? What's burial, Alex for Melrose park Illinois question for you? Okay. All right. Alex is on the mic guys. I appreciate it. Obviously Chicago very intense when it comes to sports, very passionate. Do you think one event year is enough for the USC or should we have more places for the U of C to go? I think the fact that you guys get one a year. I think you should be like my hometown. Montreal hasn't had invented four years. Whereas our love, we had great events are. So I think the fact that you guys are, and especially now that they're coming in June, as opposed to in January when it was freezing a few years back. This is great. So I like the June. Stop. I should be happy. Don't be so greedy. Gee, whoa. Don't pick area state. The rosemont. You guys get a lot in this vicinity, right? Yeah. That's true. Thanks aerial. All right. All right. What do you what do you got aerial Mondays Phil from Chicago? I lo- Phil. How are you? And congratulations on your first road show. Thank you honor that you're here for you for me. Wow. It's the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. Thank you, Bill. God here. Look that Chicago. Wow. Thank you, sir. I always hated Chicago's a Knicks fan growing up like you guys. All right. What do you got? Areo Julian also, marrow's park, Illinois flew over here, all the way from San Antonio, Texas. What just for this? Yeah. Oh. Oh, my are you serious and, and for the fight. Just say just for just for this this bad flu. Antonio just for this give it up for him credible. My question is. I know last episode of Ariel in the bad guy you were talking about wrestlemainia matches. Yes. Yes. How about this one brought closer Paul Heyman? Areola Hawaii with Matt riddle. Yes. My guy, I'll do that. Any day. Listen. The best character on that show asked me to go there before you remember the taker and Brock feud, you'd ask me they just couldn't afford me understand big money aerial big. What about the coach coming on me? Do you guys see that the coach coming earlier anyone see this? Yes, come out me for my GSP Kevin. Oh, what's that? You see that on Twitter. Go check K fade coach K fade. Jeez, the we's. It's wrong with this guy. All right. Good question. Here's my gosh. Argued that he made my NWF sold out logo. Give it up for shark attack. What's up my man? All right. I'm Steve from west Lafayette, Indiana. And I've got another hard hitting wrestling question for all right. Montreal Scrooge out. Yes, you were there. I was in attendance. Defame Scott hall recently came out and said it was a work what you were, there was the work. It was not a work. It was. Absolutely not a work. It was shoot. I remember being there as a kid, I was fifteen years old bread heart took the cameras on the desk, shot them down broke them. And then he did this WCW. He did that whole thing was one hundred percent work shoot, and I don't know why would even say that. What's the point? It was on a vice land show. So I don't know. Maybe he's just trying to talk wash. But thank you for bringing attention event. Steve. Great show support. Yes. And w for life. All right. What do you got my man aerial Ryan from Caroline? How are you? Good. Good. I know your big basketball fans basketball question for you next question. Yes. Just say something, say something ranters. Listen, I'm just getting tired of it. All you haters out there. You don't understand. You Americans don't get this. All right. This is a country thing. This is a pri-. You guys don't have this nationalism here. All right. Let's just say he want coming out here for a second. All right. Just bear with me. Stop hating. Let me have my moment. The Knicks are disgusting. Putrid franchise. All right, there joke of a franchise. Could you let me just jump on the bag in here for two weeks? Please leave me alone. Stop trailing. Okay. Go ahead, please. So I got a next question. Favorite dunk. Jordan on UN Ewing or doing. Get outta here. First of all, first of all, when Pippen dumped on Ewing who on that series in nineteen ninety four the New York freaking Knicks. All right. Favorite dunk. It was Stark's on Jordan grant. Ed pepin remember that ninety three? Yeah. Who this man, right? Here is the heart and soul. ESPN Mateen, Charlie moynahan, celebrators forty nights birthday today forty nine by guy. Charlie? How are you do? I know you, Charlie. I'm sorry. What's happening, crunchy or creamy peanut butter. Oh, that's a tough one. You know, it's funny, I swear on my life. My wife was just away last week and I had to do the groceries and I couldn't decide so I bought both. Now, I know that's not a good ad, sir. I'll go I'll go with crunchy. Telestrator audience the story behind the story post fight show favorites. Yes. I like to have peanut butter, peanut butter and jelly sandwich, who doesn't these days trying to cut down on the carbs. I'm trying to trying to work on this. But so what would I do is actually late night snack? I have the peanut butter and then I'd take some jelly and I just eat it out of a bowl. Is that weird? Cup all safe thing. All right. Daniel, what do you got last question? Daniel from Michigan. All right. Daniel, what up DOE? Daniel right here. You know, the mayor reporters who listened to the airport is everyone's day. Yeah. I know produces. He's actually celebrity in his own, right? Who watches fantasy focus? Daniel people know you. 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Canelo Alvarez Wins 2019 ESPY AwardSergey Kovalev Demands 10 or 12 Million

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Canelo Alvarez Wins 2019 ESPY AwardSergey Kovalev Demands 10 or 12 Million

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Mike you already know taken a net doing what napper's do but I'm back to talk about the face of box in the biggest the biggest athlete in the sport lack Kara. They'll book sale the only man Eh to do million pay per view buys consecutively. Maybe even three times right child is triple g triple g you know he won an espy for the best boxer and it looks like he's making an improved offer. Make an improved offer to Kovolev <hes>. That's something we gotta discuss. I mean you know a lot of people gave Joshua Shit for low balling right and we would come to the aid of the fighter right. We would say oh. He deserves more Joshua's low balling. Oh He's pricing himself out. He thinks he's worth too much is coppola thinking he's worth too much. At twelve million ten million the main accident fourth is crazy like is this the a side. Is this what the has to deal with. You know we like Oh. He should take whatever but he's looking at it like Oh. This is the only time I'm going to get this opportunity. Do I take whatever do I go for Gusto. Do I try and get as much as possible because I might not get a shot again and if you can Nello I know you're looking at it like just make the deal make the deal because I'm not fighting triple G. We teach them a lesson and I think it's on principle with with Cannella. Look you know we talk about Earl not liking Kief but I think in elegance never likes Gennady you know first of all good naughty disrespected him and this is what I'll tell you about boxing like Mike is better when you disrespect them all fucker because you won't get that fight. You won't get that fight and that's how can Nello felt now. The issue is denied and do his part so he remained beside and now Cannella. Hello sticking it to him. It's that simple like you try to play hard ball. Don't get upset that things ain't going your way if you're Kovolev if you're Sergei Sergei Kovalev if you're GONNA go up don't get upset things Zeynep going your way for Kovalev. I don't think he's ever gotten ten or twelve million but he wants to sit around and wait and call condello cheap. You know they low bowl they low ball offering him or low low ball for law for ball. Whatever you WANNA call it he trying to say they send them a low ball off for the first time around he trying to say he needs ten or twelve million dollars of my question is why why do you need them? As Much Dignity Connecticut Senator Twelve his first time around guarantee you know the Liam Smith is a lot of people that didn't get this type of money you know again we criticize A._J.. All all the time Oh you know while you be size one short money or don't take short money but this is why you gotta start them low in hope that they snag on a certain because if not looking where they're going talking about Sweat Eh twelve or ten million I don't even honestly I don't even know why cove eleven is team believed. They deserved that like what have they done. Successfully let me see Oh yeah. They do pay per views successfully. Were those successful you call those successful ooh. I'm just saying one seventy one ninety. You wasn't even the ACE hot here. You are again with another opportunity where you're not the fucking aside. He might have to cut ties. You don't let Canelo Alvarez fight pass you by letting the Mayweather Pacquiao fight pass you by these a once-in-a-lifetime these are once in a lifetime people that come into the sport and you know he needs to get this fight because it won't come around again Canelo Alvarez twenty-eight-year-old Fina he just tacked on another accolade to his name by capturing the two thousand and nineteen <hes> July espy award. That's another accolade one that I'm sure Kovolev hasn't won so again these things increase your purse. Kovalov hasn't won that he wants an increase purse based based off what exactly the fact that he feels. He's the sexiest name available for Cannella with. I'm GonNa say fuck you you either want to get on this publicity train and and get your name known or you WanNa stay on the outskirts and be known as the guy that didn't take the deal price themself out and now has to go fight a prospect and Anthony Yard in Russia. You compared to tell me how does one compare with the other if you're Kovolev. How do you now get up for Anthony Yard? He ain't Camello but if you're Cobra and his team are are you thinking look if he's negotiated with us once he'll come back again. Let's hang tight. Let's play tough. Let's get some hardball going on and maybe we get an improve off not this fight. Maybe he does walk but we're still an option gene. We're still an option and that's the question is Kovolev still in option. If this deal falls apart I don't know I don't know I would really like to see this out of the two options that zones bully the ads are given Canelo because I wasn't on for that for that show but I find it quite disrespectful that they feel they can tell Cannella look you can were only approving Jannati Lufkin and we're only a proven Sergei Kovalev meanwhile they tell Kinetico Lufkin. We're approving Hymie Mongia for you if I'm Kanalelo. I'm looking for a way out this deal. I'm looking for a way out this deal and I know you know three the under sixty five million remember. He don't get that three hundred sixty five million unless he fights and if he loses one fight that that contract changes that contract changes so now you're telling me I'm moved up up my first disown inaugural Fai a moved up to one sixty eight. I'm a Mexican first of all naturally. We just don't come big. You know we might come why we ain't come in Seoul okay so I moved to take on a taller bigger men capture a secondary supermiddleweight title. I'm allegedly the ace side you gave me three hundred and sixty five million but for some reason you treating Gennady as the a side for some reason you giving a naughty fourteen and a half million dollars the feisty roasts and now God knows how much you're going to give them the fight another one hundred and fifty four pound in Hymie monkey I mean and how many fifty four pounders does he have on his resume. People like to criticize Cannella and say how he's the Cannella waiting catchweight king. Let's look at the names that he fought at. Let's look at these catch ways. Did he really suck them down or bring them up or did we give them one extra pounds too the division. It was already at unlike triple G. Bring people up bringing people down whatever suits him you know honeymoon Ghia ain't no bum but he doesn't deserve to go straight into straight into a Cannella fight. Excuse me Gennady fight right if canals to what what is dissolved telling Gennady subliminally no no no no canal located fi hymie. That's a mismatch yeah Yuka fight him you will I mean. Is Anybody GonNa wake the fuck up up. What is Oscar over here? Thinking you know trying to fight Mon Ghia in Mexico. You know they tell you know they tell you know that that opponent is only approved for Ganapati. Meanwhile mm-hmm well. Is your mother fucking fighter. He's your fighter so now the network is telling you what to do with your fighter they telling you you can't fight your own fighter. You gotTA fight again. I cannot get enough promotion spider. You can't even keep it in house. They got too much control in my opinion. I think it's time can Nello the top dog did he is put his fucking foot down. You don't tell me who the <unk> fight you don't tell me when I jumped I tell you when the jump because guess what any motherfucking network will jump at the opportunity for that Canelo business can never looked for a way out of this contract. Let's just let's just keep it simple. No one's a lawyer on this show. Even though we all go front like we we got family. That's an attorney right but let's just be rue. The easiest way out of a contract is you are not satisfied with the terms they are not meeting their their terms you know by treating the Nadi with more favored than can Nello. There's a fucking problem this look that is the grounds for getting this contract thrown out and just go to E._S._p._N.. Thing they won't give it to you. You've already set the ball. That is your price tag now. It's all over the world zone gave it three sixty five. No one's GonNa come and give you less unless they give you less ask for less fights you hear me. No one's GonNa give you less unless they're giving you less for less fights so of canal got three sixty five for ten fights which already actually it was. The eleven one was a boy named from the U._K.. Okay rocky fielding. That wasn't part of the deal so he's got non fights left on his ten fight deal right. Tom Tom the wall. You got too much control over my fighters in my company. If I'm I'm Oscar right you tell me you gave me a little bit of change so you can show can Nilo and you control golden boy in its stable no absolutely not because guess what I'm still Cannella and showtime would love to be in the low pay per view business. How many pay per views were denied Ian and Daniel Jacobs cell? How many would Charles Oh and canal also you know how many will hymie Mongolia and canal also what happens if Cannella goes the E._S._p._N.? Right we know the story Oscar New John Skipper over over at E._S._p._N.. And he's able to do his own thing and go straight to skip because he knew skipper right so if he knows skipper. He's gotTa know more than just skipper in E._S._p._N.. Skip was obviously now with design but who else could be Roman those hallways of E._S._p._N.. That Oscar de la Hoya might know they could point them in the right direction the consider them down and get him a meeting. How hard is it for Oscar? De La Hoya the golden boy the man and that is in charge of kennels career to get a meeting with E._S._p._N.. Or meeting with H._B._O.. Or meeting with Fox for that matter how hard would it be for Canal Oh to say Al Hayman. I want to sit down with you. Why would I be biased? Why would I not want to sit down with Cannella with? He is making the attempt to reach out look. I'm just being one hundred percent honest. I won't Condello. To put his foot down they cannot approve Mongia foregone. NODDY is a golden boy fighter and not approve him for canal that right there shows me you got an issue with me an issue with my my promoter or the company I'm working for or you. Don't value me the way that you say you don't valley me the way that you say because I didn't get a fourteen and a half million dollar Steve Rose. I got a super middleweight. Excuse me I got it yeah. I got a super middleweight. Hundred Sixty eight pound titlis regular title is the same regular Belgian many fucking pack Gal has and will have when he goes into the fight July twentieth so before you discredit rocky fielding be prepared to discredit many pacman pacman package for the same title or Daniel Jacobs for the same title. That's exactly how Jacobs got to fight with Granada for having the same title so don't pick and choose when you decide what man is of world champion and Whitman in isn't but I'm telling golden boy choose draw your line in the sand leaked something out that you're going to sit down with E._S._p._N.. It can't be a breach of contract. I know Mike is the one that went the business school once he gets things get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow were the fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only old navy valid seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry Gift Old Navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow were the fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only old navy balanced seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Card Register Lane Items Jewelry we got him. Can you go and sit down. Conversation is conversation. You can't even go and listen to the office. You don't know what they're going to talk about. You just did have lunch. You just want a awesome mascot. Oh you know nothing whatever E._S._p._N.. Showtime are about to present to you. You don't know nothing. All you know is the happy I'm not happy with the mini me because that's what is he's a mini me a mini meal Canelo Alvarez. They're trying to make him into a Cannella so I'm unhappy you telling me you're gonNA use my mini me to find my Nemesis Mrs. I thought he I thought he started his own promotional company. Might what the fuck do we need. Golden boy fighters four. I'm just saying man. I don't know that you in the face of boxing as if he's not the face I say he walks just walk production BARBAS DOT COM stand up stand up comeback dot com Yo yo Yo yo Yo. I Good Morning Good Morning. Good morning everybody in the universe. We'll come back. We'll come back up. He had a good time down in Florida at the key cabinet and say we we saw a little interaction yeah. I had a better day man pretty good pretty good stuff but all took another lotion out to him for winning two thousand Nineteen S._p.. Box so to your parents offer one lashes becomes too big to <hes> Kamilo for bringing home that prestigious prize but <hes> onto this man I don't I don't know if <hes> they're necessarily disrespecting <unk> a mellow or or <hes> or or being unreasonable and they give a guy a big contract and it seems like when you signed to zone at that they give you that money they have all the so they have all the pool and it seems like they really want that Coppola fight they wanted so much that the covert upside had enlisted services of Eddie hearn try to get this fight push push past the point but we'll break down so to talk about it. But why do you like others owners disrespecting Nello and now now you can't go over and talk to P._B._C. or showtime remember when L. O.. B. Came out and told you did not even even try to contact because we will still yours but tank cast the notify L. Abi L. O.. B. Has to find out about this alleged meeting right or whoever the powers that be they have have to find out. Let's take the equation back to Canelo Oscarsson down with whoever so dissolve needs to find out and then they need to know factual information of what took place said during that meeting because I'm pretty sure again. I'm no no lawyer but I've been I've been I've dealt with the law long enough to know that you can't stop me from talking to Michael. I don't give a fuck what contract you got with Michael. If I WANNA go have lunch with Mike that's up to me. I go have lunch with Mike now if Mike Foale Company and I worked for another and we exchange information that's only amongst to people if it got leaked. We know how it got Lee again. We haven't a compensation. The different demean you having a conversation going over and having a conversation with the head of of <hes> Showtime Sports Stephen Nosal having that kind of conversation is not what John Skipper is GonNa like. He could probably say that you guys are tempering with one of his fighters. CASSIUS fighter is under country but they will be O._e._M.. To prove in a court of law goes and if they go down that route then it's a lot a lot of shit going on listen that their lawyers they get paid way more money to me that will get him out out of this contract whether that be gotta sit down for a year and in the meantime take that knee surgery. You've got a lot of background what's going on. Tweak it just a bit but whether whether he take a year off and do knee surgery whether the he do a Mikey and take the maze twenty eight years old okay he has the ability and the luxury of letting you mother fuckers catch up okay. You know what I said letting you you mother fuckers catch up 'cause he's accomplished. He's done all he needs to do and that's why he gets to pick and choose who the fuck he wants to fight unlike the rest of you so if candelabras took two years off and came back at thirty he would still be the face of boxing and in the runnings he would still be considered Eisai so he could take some time off and fight these fuckers would they owe money with the hill money already made some of that rocky filled hi in Daniel Jacob Swipe. We use your money to fight you and guess what when we go to E._S._p._N.. or we go to show Tom or we open up a new network. Oh you laughing now. How do you know that no one else is looking on the outside and his interested now? How do you know that how do you know that there's not a fox or channel eleven or picks nine or whatever the fuck these other terrestrial channels or call? How do you know that they're not interested? Someone's not sitting in their board room saying you know what everybody else guy in the box and business. We don't know we know that there are obviously he can create them because he is the only one that could create them. He's the only one that can say today. I'm fighting Earl Spence. I'm fighting Kovolev fucking. I'm <unk> fighting. Gennady who else could say that who else could say who they're fighting. No they wait because they know boss. They wait. You GotTa Call Bluffs because you know boss you wait. You Ain't got that big fight because you know boss you you wait when you a boss you get the big fight. When you a boss you do inaugurals Niagara after Niagara after inaugural event? You're the face of P._B._c. yet a face ace of zone and golden boy. That's how it works. I mean that's all that's a lot seat here man. I hear what you're saying but he's country burly ono if he's going to be able to break that contract contract you know what I'm saying. They may gave him the money with the attention in intention of being the number one guy on their platform. Maybe be the factor for their platform being pushed or for. Why can't I give you your money back and then we're not in the bidding bidding? Have How sports contracts we're. I'm not trying to go to court because you heard me talking about court. Oh I'm not trying to go to court saying you're just I just I just don't want to be with his own. No the contract got loopholes anytime you start giving Ganapati privilege over given me Cannella Alvarez that's breach of contract. I am the face of this platform every article that you do you keep saying that if I give you Gennady Gennady zone is expecting a lot of residual subscribers your banking on me to increase your subscribers when A._J.. Four Shit Shit happened and I mean the PEVEC and fight when can Nello for they released numbers all of a sudden. We got six hundred thousand U._S.. People I am the ones who now I am the face I will take that one point two if you further disrespect me. I am the a side you don't you don't go into my roster. I don't think you get in that. Mike Mongia is a golden boy fighter. You don't tell me I can't fight my own stablemate and this berm who beat twice who second fiddle to me who got less money than me who not banking on bringing subscribers like me you given them my opponents my ideas. This was my <music> all Mexican idea when Mongia now you want no no. I'm mad now. I'm disgruntled. I'm unhappy and that's absolutely reasons in grounds to get out of a contract. You gotTa keep me happy. You can't it makes me unhappy. You can't make a doodle. I'm golden boy nick. How you'RE GONNA make this do more important to me now? I'm out. I'm out strike and I don't mean strike like baseball. I mean I'm on strike more. I'M GONNA go fix this knee and sit sip some fucking my ties and Mexico under a palm tree while John Skipper sweating bullets trying to get subscribers. That's what he should do. I'm just saying I mean like that remember. I don't know if they're necessarily looking Cannella like like there because they want the trilogy fight they won't fight. They want to fight these two guys in for all intents and purposes I mean the Granada fight has hit like a stance. It doesn't on it in Vegas. I think that's the main sticking point so I feel like zone is is leaning more towards ninety because they nobody wanted a pillow fight but it seems like <hes> Camello not echoed like an analogy. There are not GonNa give you another Jerry. We want you to go out and fight if I Coppola but forget ninety things you wanted to the the Aba ratify and you're trying to push for go ahead and take Mongia E-eh beat him up and maybe go to like try to link together all night he just beat up the the Nello <hes> up up up protege and all the time you graduated with a business degree your Oscar de la Hoya area. You want your fighter told you I want them gear. Can you offer it as an option okay now. You're telling me that the narrative is going to be let me use my undefeated champion to build up this dude that doesn't belong to our company no Mike that's not business. What what happens when you sign over to disown when they give you that money they don't? They don't care what you might. You can't change the business a box and just just because you gave me some money. I've never seen that before okay because I've never seen that the B._B._C. This H._B._O.. This is more like but you have see once you take our money our big contract. You're under our roof. We're going to put on should we don't WANNA put out and that's fine. That's fine for you to have last ride or option to approve the fight but you all have any say so over my stable both chair. You don't own golden boy. You don't own go if anything you can think you can fuck and dream and fantasize that you own canal because you gave some money but you do not own golden boy money do ten dates ten dates nine Mike Man you Oscar de la Hoya the money and I won't monkey to fight the fight to well gee we already already gave a Mongia to date of him fighting Hogan and somebody else on our platform why not put him in there with G.. What's Cherries? We're not putting people series all the time to connect if I call with a so e._S._p._N.. Control over over top ranch stable I think is being led by on the show but I don't think they're happy listen. I don't they're happy. It's no different over here because if you read the article main events has contacted Eddie hearn they want to fight they just trying to get this mother fucking last hurrah paychecks go live in Russia for the rest of my and no bill John Name up so you could get this money not off the back of Cannella. Everybody WanNa fucking Willie Wonka ticket twelve million Guerrero got two point five to fight mayweather brothers do say one twelve twelve million bugging this knocked out three times. What are you trying to get for male? Everytime we've been starched. Fuck is wrong with these mother fuckers. I'm telling you they out of Control Control and you don't control the stable value when I read Cobra little twelve and a half I'm like damn cope with which a negative view award and I don't think you seem to happen it for. Not even half as populist Daniel Jacobs was not popular popular didn't then then Dan because he has the whole Russian Northam background. You might be a little bit more popular but he did a hundred and seventy. Thank you pay per views. Ski and Kovalyov did one hundred ninety okay they both had good names but only one went on to do a bigger fight since then and that's Jacobs so jacobs is more popular only one went on to get twelve point five million what the other one is only wishing dreaming praying at night he can get and that's the issue right there. You fuckers got. You got a big a big problem. See where I was raised. We don't count other people's pockets but these fuckers out here. The first article we read a week ago before I left. Keep was Daniel. Jacobs got twelve point five. Get the fuck out that man pockets get out his pockets that you do Jacobs did did you have back surgery to remove a fucking tumor or you a cancer patient. Did you live that life. Were you told you can't fight again. Did you have to learn how to walk again. These mother fuckers disrespectful. I'm telling you the entire lot when main events and zone main advance and zone there is no excuse for this treatment. I'm I'm telling you is a franchise. He'll go anywhere and do this and if he really wanted that fight why not do what you did would be baby in just a little bit get old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot adeel every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at the price? You won't believe only it'll be balanced. Seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces set a price? You won't believe only old navy valid seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry on top for a golden boy. Let me just remind you damn it was somebody that can never leff already when H._B._O.. Try to give all ballsy cannot always like L._P.'s big PAPI style couple couple couple kisses on things blew him away. I'm going we're GONNA go do this shit over here on showtime show you because I do it anywhere. y'All Canal go to Bravo T._v.. And we're GONNA watch boxing over there. Let's just be real. That's just the way to fuck. It goes so they better get it right. They better get it right because what you think Golden Oh boy I know lawyers. What have to have the box in public? Thing album is the smartest man in Boston other half think he's a devil and he couldn't take golden boy from Oscar so get your dumb ass Zodda. Ask You got lawyers that are get. I'm out of this month fucking Shit when you'd think <hes> main advantage is looking for when they go out and get to try to fuck main events because tell me to E._S._p._N.. Who Lost John Skipper who John Skipper say you'll? I'm feeling the say I need to take time off and all of a sudden opens up his own starter. What the fuck you thing E._S._p._N.? Going say we'll ask come. Sit Down like Yo man. I ain't happy over there but you ain't here for me man which I got offered which I offer still want me to go through bar after seeing the success of Canal on zone at the see how much they offer me after the profile I mean how many articles how many more people became aware of Cannella Alvarez after he got named the highest paid paid athlete in the world and how many more will continue to norm at that he just got awarded this S._p.. Water fuck. Can I go sit down and shop them around and show you that you don't control me. We'll get E._S._P._N.. Give me that three hundred sixty five plus however I spent the you know. Why can't we send it back? I just got the the article that when when everything would I sign them. I'm trying to read through it to see is is there any is there any any way you could know what could could get out of this contract. Give me one second keep breeding. I'm sure all contracts you could get out of the you never heard nobody even ironclad contracts. Some I still get out of it is always a loophole. There's always a loophole. You know you just gotTa Find Your attorneys. GotTa be beast. These calls are brought to you by El Camino electrical services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation visit us at El Camino electrical services dot com. You know the number to call in one four to five five six nine fifty to Oh forty one shot out to Sergio with the Super Chat Sand shot out to T._v.. I listened to your shows at work. Well thank you my friend. We read your super chats from work on. Let's go out to the phone lines once again. You can add an extra gibbs to be part of the conversation. That's N.. E. S. T. O. R. G._I.. B._B._S. Marcus DC talk to me. What are you still in carrying it up? No left hander the yesterday breath. I make this bird now on back down to D. Do you know what I was torn in the beginning but I say take this out my performance and it Pinellas Lawyers Day that zone not meeting their performance in the contract. You know that you can invalidating contract. Both sides has a expectation the football and if one that is that you know it's done you get out of everyone along by my performance. When it comes to a zone well they not meeting the expectation was going to live and fight the we all know he ten eleven killing? You know what I'm saying that <hes> this tape right so he understands that he lives. I took on <hes> Connecticut. I took on well before I took on Day Jacobs onto did you abandon I sit under a rock band right and then my next fight I'm GonNa do is GonNa be mitigated that they was going to be a big subscription. Grant you at time going to look for the opponent and then the name it wasn't my brother you public fielding easy fight for you about what was going to be a little bit hard which made it look easy to Mike. How many other people in the vision do what can elevate Iraqi dislike that difference between <music> specimen Iraqi as legal rocky a write in touch with this it not he he was between Morman? That'd be really didn't do it. Live on Johnny Jannati Nicola argue that list after coming up a building. You cannot so it you can't you can't I can't eliminate a monkey trying to network promoted to try to get them what you want to get to get the death not at work. That's where I attorney. I will fight over performance. Hey listen. This guy just bought a a a billowed I._B._M.. I._B._M.. Eliminated go to used to have the W._b.. Secondary and this guy just bought him on metaphor on on a followup fight on a bike this guy <hes> go the look at the the the book that meets the One thing the h. m. saying so you you can't argue with it live every John high-speed roles right now then I could see doing that what he's doing. They don't WANNA lose it. He Goes Oh Bravo T._v.. Wherever I go and you know what I I would love to see it from a reporter standpoint I just from your? Let's talk about it. I would love to see Oh shit. Can the little signs the bravo housewives going to be watching Cannella Lou pretty as you start looking at this contract like we look at N._B._A.. Contracts or N._F._l.. or in the house players fighters signed to a club or a certain network or certain Tremaine I mean platform. I believe that that they turn over last right and in platform gets final say so just like 'em baseball about that. I want you to play a union plane period. Mike You keep repeating that and I keep repeating but how do they have control over the stable the state you got a canal. Oh deal nigger. You Ain't got a fucking golden boys stable able deal you gotTA Canal Alvarez deal. You can't now tell golden boy yo you know I gave you all that money for Alvarez so do me a solid and give me your undefeated champion to face. I don't even see see how Mike is the. I think Mike is doing it from a standpoint of like there needs to be you know Yang Yang may because I can't see him logically agreeing with any of this shit like I don't. I don't think zone it's actively telling a monkey or to go fight. Georgie paint G and their side is negotiating with Mongia champion does zone came out and said Hey Camello Canaletto you fight Kovalev and you can fight Granada. You can't fight your boy on your stable Hymie Mongia but Gennady could what do you mean. I don't think that's exactly what they did. Mike they took him off as an option and only gave him to his like that right like for me as a street. Do I'm not even fucking what you might you telling me. I woke up today Marcus from D._C.. Call me and say Yo Mike Weekdays five shows one of your ex. Hoes you done nigger. Fuck you doing over there you done you done so. Would you talk about you like I. You work with me so you still do you conflicting ignorance. I don't own you chair. I don't own you how you gonNa tell me now. It's like you might you can't wear a sweater. Only where that's what it when you go see Jannati what the fuck no no you don't own the entire golden boy promotions like we need more information or I'm not saying that they do what I'm saying is when they presented zone with the <HES> mcgeer option for another design which is like now. We don't want that fight for the we we we. We we think that easily but forget ninety maybe they they see it as a little bit different school but that's what me and market sent that is the argument that is your defense right there. When you go in front of a judge how could zone and John Skipper truthfully tell the judge why you can't fight Mongia and Gennady could when that's canals in his defense attorneys argument? We're there in breach of contract. They're forcing us to only fight the toughest fighters in the world. Meanwhile everyone else gets to pick and choose and here's our example. I WANNA fight Mongia. They told me no but they told my nemesis yes that. He's my nemesis assist Mike. You can't fuck with home you fucking with me to fucking but me why you giving them. Fourteen point five million dollars to make a fourteen point five million dollars. Oh that's right. He was a secondary champion at another weight division division so again you making me jump to the FI thought I was the a side well. I WANNA BE A B side. If you're going to treat my 'cause like that. You're going to give fifteen million dollars to a beside. Saami up signed me up. Mike you see what I'm saying. There's something wrong with this contract and they approve that there's no way that as he is the clear face of zone he topped A._J.. He is locked. GotTa there does zone but Gonad is getting the same treatment. I'm out chucking induces. How Gennady getting the same treatment that right dish should be their argument for breach of contract? I'm the face you gave me almost four hundred meal you get his due to one hundred and we on the same level how we on the same aim level how come on you can't tell me that what you're saying. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate but we we got to to boxing fans that pass the ball and in practice law and have called in here numerous times whenever we get into these types of topics and that's what I'm doing. I'm just reinvite him to call in. You know who you are. You guys have both called in you. Both pass the bar. You're practicing law one in California. I just you gotta go through my emails to remember the name but calling anyone this even if you're fucking paralegal help us out you know I it was possible to break break a contract. Every contract is meant to be broke up. I don't know man 'cause I a world of basketball football nonsense so I never seen contract play a break his contract and that's why Nike gave him that big dumped. I'm checking who he broke his contract Disney who they're the do the Neal Man Colin Kaepernick that's right. He didn't break his contract. How how they stopped him from playing ball? They stopped it from from clan by he finished that season or they basically they just didn't give them a job Nike. Pick them up and made them some money but I thought thought that he breached you know he was fired because he neil fiery different for this shit the N._F._l.. But what I'm saying I seen it's still the same kind of argument in a sense that the man so to speak you know I'm using air quotes. The man wanted him to do something he decided against that and another entity still stepped up and that's all I'm saying Bonello can stand his ground. It don't matter if he's going to be in breach. It don't matter if he wanted to give back the money he could stand his ground. 'cause best believe there's going to be ten Nike Santa Ready to ready to give them money just like under armour already gave him money ever last already already gave him money. You know what I mean. So it's like come on guys. He's Kanalelo. He could go anywhere. That's that's the only reason I'm throwing out of predominantly female network in Bravo because that's who Cannella Wiz. Wow the can't go to any network CAN NELLO can understand I haven't seen players or or or athletes walkaway from a big time contract like that and not have any repercussions or have to pay some money back or something like that y'all champ but I've been say he could give it back and you send but you don't give putting seventy million dollars and hang out Joel. You don't get it Yo you. We know you can go anywhere. You wanted to go you. GotTa Close Your Eyes. You gotta you gotTa feel Cannetto skin get in his skin. Your can Nello Mike you are. I don't even remember what year was but almost ten years ago that man WanNa fight and blow himself a are eight in Mexico. I never understood it either I said to how is this man live in still in Mexico and not gain kidnap not getting todd of his mom. Don't get tired of a one point for like fires of his boxing career Maria on H._B._O.. He didn't show his daughter. You know I think they've been blurred out with. Just cut a face off from fear from now you know all the cartels in Mexico but you can Nello anyway back to the point. You Can Nello remember you've won. S._P.'s as you've you've. You've got multiple titles you got the link is just the linkage alone to Oscar the true golden boy you know but you've made your get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only only it'll be balanced. Seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single all day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only it'll be balanced. Seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry Grown Lane. You know you are L. Garnell. They don't even call you. They don't talk to you in the first person Mike if you didn't know L. Canelo is talking to him in the third. He's an year and Canelo the CANELO. Not Hey camello the Nello L. Canelo Monica. Nobody got it like that. Only one man and that's floyd he has taken over so seventy million eighty million who ever signs is going to pick up the tab Eh because guess what my e._S._p._N.. Do pay per view. Oh and what's what's better pay per view streaming and let them decide because guess what might E._S._p._N.. got a streaming APP. Don't they and guess what else they do might they give a whole lot more money to the fighters who are okay with fighting on that streaming APP right might ensure E._S. Cropper X. Romashenko okay so why why wouldn't there be a way by his own. Why you don't want to give up their you WANNA give it? That's why you gotTa make it right and that's all I'm saying when you were someone pushes you push back and that's what can they do. Put His foot down. We are in control. Not you stop flexing. Stop Having Mike out here while Nessim Florida making title dissolve. You don't flex so me I will leave you lately. Have you ever heard right. I could network. Maybe we have we we only H._B._O.. Used to approve and disapprove fighters all the okay okay okay so so so it's not unheard of there is not unheard of but you know what as unheard of you know. What isn't unheard of for you to pick out a stable? Tell me I can't fight my stablemate but then my nemesis could. Let's think about this in another way then since he can't he can't get it your mayweather pack. Let's go back to that may pat. Obviously the public felt mayweather want the fight. Yes Chicken Burgers K._F._C.. Should all you know oh he's making excuses. Oh Pat Callaghan dirty. What you think would happen? Look how hard it was to make that fight for those that don't know you know less move as the head of C._B._S.. Al Hayman all these people had to meet at a restaurant. We got the story through a waiter. It was beautiful. I love boxing yeah. A waiter drops way to eavesdrop and gave quotes. You know wow yeah allegedly because you know all these stores story say sources else's so whatever they made this big deal that couldn't be made but imagine when they sat there. Bob told how you know we're GonNa make this five bug who was who's Floyd's closest friend or als next floyd like who was valuable because we got we got to keep it in perspective a tiny monkey your valuable or an out now al stable problem pretty valuable okay so he's goes. You know what before we make this fight. LemMe let me find Danny again from a business standpoint. Why would you give Danny back then in two thousand twelve a loss? That's another franchise hymies another friend Mike you gotta wake up. We have to have the same aim energy on this because they have to receive this probably they can't do this to golden boy and Kennel hymies another franchise. You don't just ask me to give you my like hymies my next Bonello. I'm building for the future so now go go X.. Bob Arum Eram to get you fucking Chicago Stephen doing or give you this if he'll do or two female. Why would I give you my neck's for this motherfucker like I'm really mad? I don't get how people don't get this. This is unfair. You can't say I can't fight Mongia but the dude I beat who ain't part of my team can get the going to some callers man. Let me go out to Joseph just my if we can make up next that they'd be tempted to your plan right there. That's like Bob Arum telling Delahoya Joe Matter of fact back do it this way by Baram Toes Eddie hearn Yo we gonna make that bre shell or whoever's in that seven former division that Bob Gatt fight that unification who Jamir Harris I will make that <hes> Battelle farmer fight but first GimMe Ryan Garcia what the fuck come on like what the fuck no man you guys got a wake up. They are are trying to pull some fashion on canal and I know hearing let it fly but I want him to get the message. You'll need them. They already created your buzz. You don't need them no more. They already put your your price at four hundred million. It's over you think E._S._P._N.. Go come back back now and say oh we we're going to try and get a disgruntled can Nello with three hundred million. That's how you take a fighter. They gotta get you more now. Mike you already there. That's what I'm saying. Now is the time to leave or at least threaten it threatening fake it Aliki leak it. Golden boy gives me shit all the time all the time they can easily. Just you know give me a clip of Cannella walking into a building and tell me you know and put the question mark. Where's Cannella going? That's going to start a pot Fox on the bill Yo- that's GonNa start a pot and then let let three days of headlines go by and all all of a sudden mellow at Fox to talk about baseball in a studio somewhere on someone's podcast but the boxing world went crazy and zone sweater and skipper was called his higher ups is like what the fuck is going on over there. We just spent I four hundred Mil on his cat and you lose them. Don't make me lose you just saying that's how my brain things. I mean I know below. That's why you here because I'm a conspiracy theories. I'm not I mean I wasn't pegging about about bowel golden boy light. Hey that's our next guy. That's our next a frank x reality man years they took down to Mexico the already gate maison headline so he's he's definitely something they go to trying to build and you just don't the triple loop golden boys worst case scenario right. They believe like you in the beginning of the show that their backs against the wall they can't do not and so they say all right all right all right John Skipper here's Mongia Gennady goes in their back knock some smooth out one of his best performances. Now we think Granada's back he don't spark Mongia and they make the rematch with Bonello September fourteenth rolls around book back back. He sparks the shit out of Cannella yet as a trilogy yeah yeah yet it could get a four fight like Marquez impact cow but guess what happened can Nello Golden Boy Manga Mongia all took else and there is no more next up nasty. This is boxing one laws. Don't defy such a wes tell that to Cannella who's undefeated and Floyd who fucking changed the game and that's just the greatest of floyd floyd so goddamn in great debt even he beacon still thinking about thirty years when he flew a beaching don't even count how grateful uh-huh count and that's what I'm telling you who was saying a couple of show them you gotta take that Opportunity because it don't count like you don't get that loss and that's what's going on right now like for Nello like I don't even think about that for he was like the kid did you go right now. Mayweather Cannella and look at the pictures of canal he was a boy and it's sad to say because he was like twenty two. Maybe twenty one or some shit like child. You know maybe dissolve feels the same way about I mean he's young. He might might dissolve feel that way but you're asking you gotta offer talent and now I'm schiff you out of that and say your mic. You've got enough of talent a honeymoon gear inc.. Canelo we can make them Canelo Wickham make them canal until you know Jamaal Charles Oh fi and then laura coming in because you do listen what you do with these guys with the Psycho Stephen says and the vow Dez in the Gilbert Dove Ramirez in the canals and the Monkey IOS Ryan Garcia's Tevin former you giving them guys that they can perform until Tom the cash until you can risk it until you put in Ted Ryan Garcia in tank and it's like a all right Brian losing now we can risk because it's the best in the division. It's okay is okay because he lost a Lo- Marchenko Gary Russell remember he lost because he lost a Lo- Marchenko. It's okay so that's why we keep you undefeated Tillis. Your Tom like Mike polite coffee. He probably get tested but if since he's a marine my man's to sixty eight muscle he might get that American A._J.. Jay effect if push probably don't got no promoter. It probably won't even happen but what I'm saying is when you got something you gotta try and Water and nourish that that plant properly so that grow become fruitful. You know you don't six weeks N._C.. A little baby marijuana plant down start smoking now. You can't even smoke it as six weeks. Let Monkey your grow. They tried to do this and when he wasn't even sour golden boy two thousand eighteen October they will win for the for the fight right now now. We're not gonNA section this for five Baez my rozier but that's that's the bigger the argument here why is triple g always acts for fifty four pounds and why is it always cool not only with the fucking networks but with these punk ass fans you punk ass phase in a chat. I see fucking Nilo. Why not fuck triple Geo Fi dudes we don't I didn't WanNa see I wanna see nobody wants to see if I could go to dozens of names his fighters that I wanna see come on man your yeah energy is so wet for real then a couple of calls? The old dropped off and all right. We got one now. The blog is up but <hes> Joseph just want to remind you that you have not pressed one and I'm sure you know a- At this point but every time I see you just feel like I need to remind joes Dot Com your fish scrap confront with the thirteen A.. O. WAS GOING NO ISH OH boy eight money Mr Zone the box invoice two thousand nineteen rookie of the year and that's you did some great work with Keith Army Man. I appreciate those interviews you definitely caused a lot of controversy and that's what you bring to the table man you got that factor and I love that about you. WanNa talk about Bonello winning the two thousand nineteen fighter of the year another great accolade and another thing to his resume can allow only twenty twenty eight years old getting the biggest money and this can number was a free agent E._S._p._N.. Showtime they all had a chance to sign them with design gave him the biggest offer that gave them the biggest contract in the history of boxing so I mean he seems like is about the money at the end of the day is about the money into zoning. They all came fighters the most money though I feel what you're saying about having new gear how is he. How is he accepted to fight triple g but he can't fight condello? I don't understand that one but one thing that comes to my head canal did say he would have find another Mexican. I don't know if this has something to do with this book in Elo said that before but you are right I wanna see Cannella versus Mongia. Arnout Mexican war that's the biggest fight. I think that should happen with four triple. G Russia's MONGIA McGee versus canal out is a way bigger fight in Mexico. We all know mcgeer is a cessation. He has plenty of US only twenty two years old. He wants to fight the best so shows T._v.. In seeking ever leaving result I mean time head showtime had less. He left Showtime Taught H._B._O.. E._S._P._N.. Had to change that money you got you. GotTa give them. The money man shut off the T._v. c._M._G.. Promotions we hear money man big big on right H. Money. Thanks for calling ah we got J._P.. Talk to me would object aw hey so. I don't be always understanding the technicalities so how come we can't it Andrei dried get old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only old navy balanced seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get at ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only old navy balanced seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes this clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry. Whatever the fuck his name is big fight? He Ain't no big fight as on them. Put them down and he's a tough fight right. He's a he's a so and I just did go. No no no no no don't brush that over because I like to call a Nilo duck in cherry picker. I just thought Daniel Jacobs go may not make natty. Go Fight Book Fair Floyd Rainy always going build someone up when he andre they say good night when he beat good ninety they say charter when he beat follow say fuck and Jerry heard or Julian Williams or someone else is never gonNA stop. It's never gonNA stop. Hey well. Maybe you can predict the future but one thing is affect. Maybe Andrei is little risk high reward but he is also the most credible victory and don't tell me that fight doesn't sale because there's one fact code J._p.. We never although let's give you extra time and there's just go at this bit by bit I want. I want to go back to some whereas you just said you said Andrea is the most credible victory based off what my man go ahead and help our listeners understand. This thought disappeared no this as that. You just raised the did he is the most credible win for canaveral yeah how by the optics <hes> by five yard watching boxing is the biggest threat you know that stylistically in. I don't think anybody would argue that now. I'm arguing. I'm arguing it. That's why I'm a mortgage I can argue. The KOVOLEV is more of a threat Kovalev is a natural hundred seventy five pounds gear. My God did not keen owners how you shot and you just fucking one. Another world title shot here harder came back and beat this guy without you yell champion if his heart was gone he wouldn't immediately rematch to do the knock them out. He tucked his tail in Iran and go for someone else that don't show me that your heart is gone when you met Andre Ward sometimes you just can't beat a do he fucking that's right bro you just call the do default to rematch is a pump. He had two options twice. Mike just be knocked out in the second one the second fight for sometime. Sometimes people just better than you my Nigga awards the fate and nobody would be worth to say that they were scared or he was Sam because we'll be came out box. He took match whatever has got a new trainer avaricious so he's not like. He Shot A. J. P. Your core box and asked was andres biggest win. What is calling out ass? What's his biggest win got the biggest Mary Heathrow who or why are you let let me sentences? Give me a fucking name whose biggest win meanwhile you say it's the listeners that he is the most credible win so westside. Let me let me get your your work that you've been trying to his wife and miserably. You won't let me go well. Do start a mystically we all fucking no it and here's the biggest problem why they will and don't ever think that find a Mexican beaten up a bracket doses black guy doesn't fail this guy's monitor. It's too handsome you kidding me. That's IT Sale Canal dip. The black is now shifts allow producers black guy you fucking kick me. You know why they do it because that dude is the only do who have the potential. I'm not it will happen. He put Pencil to make I think Andre Does give a book. Nelson Andre Triple g today to find Andre Trey triple G G passes like why is this guy getting in the fight. Nobody's Inter joe his mother right here. This boxing this autzen near low heater cast kaos exactly they want to pass the course. If you WANNA get a third rail bias the bias because he's the cash cow because he's the one that's good we gotta keep putting Cannella through hoops of fire like yeah so unfair crazy crazy insane the mind second now do a man like I said last night. Why are we giving this guy all the easy then give them a big for like he been beat twice about Cannella rooms and he has a questionable fight with then take the law so he got to go do something go go? Get a bill. Go beat Andrei. Go show people that that you are still one of the best individuals that don't you try to chase down low and bring four parents to keep him. We don't want to see that we wanna see st rose again either. Bra androids biggest win is selecting which Jack Kakuei but select the fuck. I mean Jack who had a tough fight. Hi with a with a met with bobby was different Kinko. There was the I._B._M.. Mandatory for Nilo built now noticing I Jack Kakuei did enough to possibly get get the momentum. The minimum net fiber P._B._C. had had another way yeah. That's hilarious. That's you know that's Gold Jack Cool Clay you know being the biggest bridge sacrifice man I know he name but but but Jack Right cool and what's Jackson biggest win. Exactly you know like Celek easy is Andres biggest win and that's all default. It's like when Keith Diego childhoods you know to me. It's like we giving you credit. 'cause you lose in well oh but but celebrities big win is like centennial you know a fifty four pounder like man due to their off the deep end with this shit you know they need to make like Andrei and I read an article this morning. My say that check this out. Daniel Jacobs is willing to come back down to one sixty in two thousand and twenty four ninety. Howdy rematch against someone else to two fights yeah? It wasn't a two five cm Canetti may be. It may be something else but I'm not quite sure. I know it was not even though but that's you see that's what they need to do. Though why why are they only invested in Gennady as a canal Oh opponent to draw in subscribers. If you notice their game plan it's like let's feed guided softies until we can make destroy AJI but why don't we feed Andre some valuable names to raise him up to make that fight bigger. Let's make Daniel Jacobs android fight. Let's make Andrei Gennady fight. No let's make Cannella fight right Gennady and Jacobs and Andre and then Charl because he's the best so he should have to fight everyone back to back like a bowling pin newish backwards man but they get a guy who got ten sites sixty five like they treat the other guy better than six dollars atrium bettering Jannati way way but I guess he's got his first fight with St.. Rose Okay everybody going the poet fight but are we going to make them by somebody credible and we all know hymie. MONGIA is still too green to be in the rain with a guy like not left and we've seen a guy didn't hoping give Mongia unreal red trouble so we I think he's going to do to me. I disrespect towards Hammy. He just a little bit too young to grammar to being the ring with triple yeah man outside of being green. Oh that's just my other investment. I'm not giving you my investment. Not From Ryan Trilogy has thirty nine wins to average one good thirty six bombs no hall of famers out of out of his thirty nine years. How many hall of fame is this canal? have it'd be it'd be a long day long shit long. Let's go out to Joseph and Texas Talk to me the Quebec in late Mike Assisi Change Nj Tom <hes> which is good because I want to say in the design contract. I don't think you should think about matchmaking. Does it now but <hes> the way the the way the you know like everything that I've understood and interviews I've done with Joma Kreisky and Eddie Dissol has a seat at the table so they have a say you know but I don't think it had final say absolutely. Can you imagine back in the day. If H each bill would have done that tonight. Oscar de la Hoya or somebody would've destroyed or manny at their peak 'cause like you said there's always a way out of a contract. That's that's always always bro. Listen so if you're treating me unfit just because he gave me a bunch of money don't mean I gotta take it like that. That's grounds at least to argue it and honestly wrote his own. GotTa be careful because of Asia right now. We know there's been all kinda speculation about the rematch. He's not looking the same anymore. If you lose canonical mandate any momentum you might have had Makia Wright back down. 'cause how many Americans are really clamoring into C.. J. Pot and I don't know man I know. I know I'm interested. I can't wait for that little rematch. We'll yeah but I mean as far as as a casual base outage especially we know that he got knocked out Mike like if he doesn't get that rematch res how interesting are the casual pants to want us to scratch his own and then you know wherever cannot go. That's where you know. That's where all the casualties are going to be. I mean especially with the Mexican families so it's <hes> it's a tough call man if you if you're zone I think you guys <hes> you know gotTa beware of course they WanNa put on the best fights and I and I don't think you know it's not canal just fought rocky building and in Bottom Liam Smith you know he just saw Daniel Jacobs absolutely they wouldn't that eight to five. I mean it was a tough I go on here. Cannella made it look easy br had to be negotiated with a fucking with a fucking contract even hindsight they wanted it so bad they gave the zone gave Daniel like a deal. You know what I mean trying to Connecticut. Did nothing and it's not gonNA fall business toughest. We thought it was going to be going in just like it wasn't anybody you know we. The perception was manage could be fifty five even. I thought that it wasn't yeah absolutely I mean I totally agree with you yeah man. I don't know this is a funny man is going to be interesting Tennessee. Hi plays I mean I know I believe they're going to come to terms. I haven't even said this year but I believe they're going to come to terms. We Cova live. I don't think ask is GonNa let them Canelo isn't going to go to the Gennady Rod. They seem so the lesson he's teaching him a lesson but the two but it seems like we we is getting close to that September twelfth thirteenth diagnose so that's why that's why they they they are. They're already sent an improved approve offer to overlap but main events said that it wasn't nothing yet. You know what I'm saying then they sent what they want. They GonNa meet on these terms because he ain't giving gennady that fight not this year he going to give. On Bygone keep showing them that he's the one in charge now not anyone else that we need to get to our quick from Class Act Q. Cannella would have to fight the fight under the P._B._C.'s slash asu Tom Banner no more MacGill's feelings fight. Do you agreements let me let me read about what you say. Semi under the banner there would be no more monkey IOS or fielding's. It'd be all aalto fights not really who they got sixty chant. There's one guy that I know of each other rankings by like. I don't know what he's talking about. Man Up the rankings. We got one from Sergio Gomez shut shutout. I listened to show their work. Okay you right there. I mean look at sixty in W._B._o.. I don't see anybody that is okay number. Nine is our him and fighter has won an I._B._M.. Retain Khanum away mandatory but that's the same dude that's like. I'm just saying he ain't GonNa get no tuna with the where they then. We're all the would I could tone up. Lean your Brandon Adams. You Know Hasan and dom that none of them do get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry in and get today's wow worthy fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only old navy valid seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Card Register Lane Items Jewelry get to old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. That's up to fifty percent off your favorite old. Navy styles also get ten dollars off your next purchase. When you buy online pick up in store so hurry and get today's wow worthy the fashion pieces at a price? You won't believe only at Old Navy valid seven twelve to nineteen select styles only ten dollars off valid in-store only one time use excludes clearance Gift Cards Register Lane Items Jewelry Mike. Did I lose you yeah man so I don't know I think that <hes> they will definitely make a deal with Kovolev because that's the only options out there. Really you know <hes>. Mike said that they approved Andre they didn't even put on the list. I think I think he actually said Adad didn't put him on the list because it's only Gennady and Kovolev so I say make the Kovolev deal and you know get that one going because that that that is at least a fight that people want to see I think in my opinion people want to at least see that fight you know but I could be wrong. Committee Mike what we got so many people call in at this point looks like we had a little downs you there. I'm here my skype down for a a second mom Becker. We've got one more from Sergio Gomez Keen Nello King of kings and boxing from GonNa elver. Cannella is the face of boxing. The CASCAL has tag team A._M.. G <HES> WE got won't get rights. Read that one T._m._Z. Promotions Grace Oh T._v.. Number one and ride aches comeback one Mo Camello since two thousand twelve fourteen years four hall the famous in a good so he's he's been proven since two thousand twelve and that's the truth. That's what I'm saying like. I don't get how these guys are like now trying to stand off on Cannella. It's like Bro the FBI real he's done what he needs to do. But h money on a boomerang status talk to me I just I just want to talk about Dmitri's Ange righty and how he had a spectacular the two thousand nineteen Dmitri's ads ready was probably the most active fighter in two thousand nineteen scoring five knockdowns once with the knockout when his third world title so Dimitri is Android he is borough. He only had two fights in two thousand nine well. He thought he was supposed to Billy Joe Saunders. That's really hot. You can't get credit for supposing the fight and he did he did he did not have a great two thousand nine hundred he had a shitty two thousand nine hundred who fuck off to adds a coughing fucking celebrity selected common opponent Daniel Jacobs London down in the first round all he's an opponent. That's all he his his biggest. Win Is Hugo. Oh centennial someone they fell in. Jamal knocked out too big deal. Let's say he did have three five. I could pull up the footage. I'm just saying the measures android became a style. You must be talking about three fights in a twelve month calendar year but career he's only had two fights will be eight months. I'll say three fights in eight months. He's the most active Dimitrius androgynous he's the missing piece of the puzzle to be undisputed. Why fight is so be? I just want to fight to get a little bit bigger. I weighed like a years mudehwe years. Andrea Remember to be undisputed. You got if I follow canals the franchise champs you can't you can't be undisputed dispute with canola so I'm just I'm just going about eight. Hundred Eighty can mellows the true champion. That's why they made their franchise bill form. Nobody talks about trial oldness. We noticed Dimitris. Andretti is currently a bigger name Charleston is I just had to decide the undisputed Charles Charles just four hundred thousand on Fox and Dimitrios he sold out he saw out his crowded well Allie. I don't think you heard me. I said Charles de four hundred thousand on Fox would did android that you started talking about ticket sales so if you WANNA talk about sellouts Charles sold out in Houston so we any words hurts who had a better performance goes wakes Cannella who's on dissolve what the best middleweights Charlie. He's on island by himself. He's not age bullets grab. We could debate. Who's WHO's better position? It doesn't seem like hundreds is in a better position even being linked to zone and Canelo because he's not even on the list they didn't even approve his fucking name. Okay they made the offer soul and I'm just saying right. That's offered to Andreotti one offer that he didn't take and and they moved on and and zone Mr Zone didn't approve Andreotti they approve Cova lab and I guess when this ads writing believe me both he's the man believe me. I'm tell you yeah man after he beats a few more Akinwande. Maybe I believe you big supermax Boomerang. Talk to me Joe you said or worse I do like the makers. I really think that guy's damn yeah but I do believe he'll be a tough out for anybody. In the division and I like Andreotti you know he just needs to do something though it kind of hard when you want the fight indeed and he he really wanted to I don't want to give it to yeah you right you right you right and that's my argument so again the B sides on zone of being treated better than the Eisai and that's canals arguments get off that network. It's like Iran Ronna there. The treated me like a slave. Essentially you pick and choose who I N. I only get the tough fight so I'm the entertainment fuck out very can't do that to me. I'm out supermax supermax man. You sound like you're drilling hose out there man looking for oil in Texas it was going on. I don't know man we out though <hes> Nez G._T._O.. INSTAGRAM and twitter <hes> keeping moving we will be back. We got a couple of things to do what we got going on day. We got title but also today's Thursday right to from Chicago Stevens fight this week Yup Yup give a canal should be rushing to fight Andre so he could be undisputed middleweight champion now. What is he waiting for you? I want to actually because if it can ella wins and the undisputed disputed or has he literally doesn't he yes the franchise he's obviously undisputed and it's like people going to consider them undisputed anyway man. I'm okay but but the thing is there's just no reason to fight Andre now. The Cova left fights me as a fife. N is bigger. I'm just keeping it real identified that I won't if I had a choice justified I would make if I was zone and ah a golden boy I would go after both sides have mutual interest and hopefully eighty aren't Kim camp out and get the ball over the finish line yeah any her name. I know there's going to cause issues. Maybe maybe my fucking <hes> golden boys like Oh what you're going to go. Would you go on the Eddie her for main events like this. Are They my dad now. He's supposed to SCO me like you and I I supposed to do business you bring in someone. That ain't even got nothing to do with none of this. Maybe they're looking at it. From a standpoint okay you guys can't get it done so we and I'm with the zone and we asked his own wanted to fight and we all know disown any her and got some kind in a partnership or very good working a business relationship going so I paint may send him over just to try to smooth things remain advanced. Try to see what they exactly won't. Maybe go and boys not getting a clear the pitch kind of what they really want so maybe they eddie over Eddie gets in inside. They really really really won't eight brings us back to a design and maybe they can split over and get the Kobe lit up Everest Brad Brad natty talked to me was going on what I'm doing this morning. Brothers can call them at yeah. As far as the two fights that zone have approved proved out I agree with you guys think Sergei. Sergei Kovalev is the better option I mean at least if you go there and fight him you get another world title at another accolate Te'o Bill and at this point you know what's the point of fighting Gennady Glove can he. I ain't got no title. He Ain't a mandatory you pretty much just doing them a favor. You Ain't doing nothing for yourself. So I agree Gennady. She had to go fight Andrei for that bill which is a fight. He's been offered and turned down. Go get that W._B._Z.. We see bill which he's been offered and turned down or probably way too Cannella I._B._M.. Title and be mandated the probably five different Shinko Bull Shit. He turned down their fight back in the day. He dropped his bill because they don't WanNA fight difference SHINCO and fall behind his mother rosiest. Do get more passes than anybody. Meanwhile Cannella giving us the big Feis go Feis and we we over here saying he ain't doing nothing hindering enough. If by different Chink I think he passes the they wanna because they're probably going to go to per hour hanging all he may try to push put for their fight and we all know contract right Brian knowing what I'm saying is like that that should be like received a letter from the I._B._M.. Telling me that they sent a memo to golden boy to stop promotions may fifteenth so they gave Canelo ten days. This is what I'm saying about. The disrespected is do bigger horrible. He needs to say fuck all ya all belts. I'm bigger than the bells. Yes yes. Yes my that's what we gave them. Ten Sunday listen to Christmas in Mayfield V. He won the belt may fifteenth. They sent them a letter to start negotiate in with whoever Chanko may fifteenth breath that's why now I see what Tyson fury he dropped the belt. These dudes are retarded. They Straight Ri. That's a bad word to use. They're stupid. They're stupid and if you can Nello you gotta be smarter. I'm bigger than your bell. Fuck Your Bell fucking network. I'll go wherever how one can now look into a standoff show alone. He broke can now don't even need a network. Let's be real. He won't even need a network he can do you do Italy if anybody could fight all youtube pay-per-view or was that what was it call now. You don't really hate it. That's what fighters in motherfucking promote do youtube pay per view and telling you got you guys don't think he's going to be big but it's going to be big especially with a guy like a Nilo imagine taking twenty dollars per month right. Make your own golden boy at many Wanna get disrespect. lets it ain't like golden boy. Do this is what I'm telling you what H._B._O.. Put the pressure on golden boy. They went to showtime when they didn't like what was going on. Showtime they started they all sit at ren-tv dot com then he started using livestream then eventually that went to facebook and then eventually that went to dissolve he can keep growing. They don't gotTA stop at zone. You can move all you don't gotta be just streaming APP. You can find something else's all. I'm saying but anyway guarantee on you you to more people would know about him finding than they would be on his own against that and the doesn't show but if I knew how to live or on twitter at Grozny took one to we'll be back right on the night with the flagship and hopefully will go Iraq out untitled for Patriot members <unk> Bruce get old navy now because this week only there's a new red hot deal every single day plus up to fifty percent off store-wide. 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The Holdout

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The Holdout

"Undiscovered is supported by capterra dot com. The free resource to help you find the software you need for your business. Get their new e book. The big book of free software for free at capterra dot com. Slash undiscovered that c. a. p. t. e. r. r. a. dot com slash undiscovered. This, he's undiscovered. What killed the dinosaurs? It is one of the great mysteries, the great enduring questions of science. They lived on this planet for a hundred seventy million years. Then abruptly. The rain ends dinosaurs doing great where they go. And one of the first people to field an actual scientific explanation for this was a Transylvanian baron, FRANZ. Nope. Shah was nineteen. Seventeen France was obsessed with dinosaurs. Got into it after his sister found some giant bones near their castle. 'cause they lived in one right, baron. And even though France was self taught, he actually came up with some really great ideas about dinosaurs, but when it came to this very pivotal question, like what the heck happened to them, not as best work. FRANZ thought dinosaurs got too big. Okay. Maybe it was like a Petur. Gary disorder, very close runner up idea. They stopped doing it stewing sex doing doing the sex, the they suffered a quote reduction in sexual function, and to be honest, this is not the worst idea. People have come up with over the last one hundred years. It's just been like open season. On the Dino question. There was an ophthalmologist who thought that dinosaurs got cataracts and fell off cliffs. Sure. Good PSA to get your eyes checked. Yeah, coming the death of your species. There was an actual legit paleontologist whose theory was that dinosaurs. Brains were just too tiny and that therefore they were too stupid to live the natural end point of evolution, right? Fatal, stupidity. And I mean, why not right? If no one has a better theory like if no one knows what killed the dinosaurs go for it. But today we think we finally nailed it. Like if you ask a random person on the street, what killed the dinosaurs, they'll tell you. Nestroy Michio. It's. Metter from this guy a meteorite roughly the size of Manhattan slams into the earth sixty six million years ago kills the diagnose and most of us feeling pretty good about this idea, but not Gerda Keller. That is no way. There's no way that they will killed by an asteroid meteorite, whatever. No big rock from space, costed extinction by itself. I'm Ella and I'm Anne today. We've got the story of a holdout Gerda Keller a geologist and paleontologist at Princeton since the eighties, Gert has been loudly telling her fellow scientists that they are wrong about something they are not sure they're right about Gerda says she's been ostracized shouted down at conferences and still she has held out, but is she right? Did something else killed the dinosaurs or she just stubborn to admit, she's been wrong for thirty years that's coming up on. Discovered. Sufri three decades Gert has been telling other scientists that they are wrong about what kill the dinosaurs. And I think to understand what kind of person does that it might help to understand how Gerda handled being nearly driven to extinction herself. What happened is I was shot. I'm with Gerda in her lab at Princeton. She's dressed all in black. The way she was the last two times I'd seen her and she says pretty much everything in this very matter of fact voice except when she says something really morbid or cynical, then she laughs. I always thought I would dive in. I was twenty three because I thought anything of the twenty three was too old. I didn't wanna live. I mean, yeah. So almost die happened over fifty years ago shouldn't quite made it to twenty three, but she's getting up there. She's twenty two close left her home country, Switzerland few years before. And this point she was living in Sydney, Australia, and one day she's driving her Volkswagen bug. She has a friend in the passenger seat. They've just had lunch by the water and as they're heading back into town, they get on a highway and it was easy. And I said it was that he strange sheep's driving on this weirdly empty highway, and suddenly she hears shots. And then she sees a man in a blue trenchcoat and behind him a guy in a suit, and they're shooting at each other. And her I thought is maybe they're making a movie except run points out, no cameras, how can this be a movie? So how do I know. Switzerland. You don't see people shooting at each other's on the street, and it's movie anyway, which he finds out later is that the man in the blue trenchcoat had just robbed a Bank and the men chasing him was the Bank teller. The police had closed off the highway trying to contain the shootout, but they've forgotten this ramp, the one that Gerda got on. So anyway, she's on this highway and the men and the blue trenchcoat actually runs up to her car. Shoots her and steals the car. He shot me from maybe two feet away. His shot me that I didn't hear she's pointing to her arm. The bullet goes through her arm rips through her lungs, but luckily it misses her heart and her spine after that she's in and out of consciousness. But she clearly remembers waking up in the hospital and that things are looking bad. I got the last rites and the priest told me I had to confess no lie. Could tell him no. You told him. This was funny after this Gerda passes out. She comes to and there is that priest again, last chance you're gonna die time to confess and I say, no. Pass out again and they removed him after that. So Gerda doesn't confess she doesn't die, which is very Gerda. If she doesn't agree with something, there is no way in hell. She's going to go along with it anyway. This shooting it ends up being a turning point for Gerda mainly in that she decides she does wanna live past twenty three, but also growing up. Curtis family was poor. She'd always been him Bishop, but higher education hadn't been an auction and it's not too long after she recovers from getting shot that she really goes for it. She goes to university gets a degree actually keeps going until she has a PHD Northants's from Stanford, but she's not studying dinosaurs yet. She studying almost the anti dinosaur would I would. I would describe as one of the least exciting organisms one can study Sargodha. They're called formative FRA editor lab at Princeton, a girded. Show me a picture of one of these that she thought was particularly fine. Looking severely Hugh. Slew king one. I mean, cute. I dunno, it's beautiful, seeing a pretty nondescript blob with some points. Okay. Pointy blow up. It's very good point people very useful. When don't worry, this does become relevant to dinosaurs. I'm trusting you as you should because grits blobs they are very useful. She specifically studies, ancient plink tonic formative, FRA. Just single celled organisms with tiny shells. Floated oceans come in different blobby shapes that you can see under the microscope. So like not your charismatic mega-fauna. No, but very useful because they tell us what was happening to the planet in different points in history. So if we scan down layers of ancient see rock, look at the blobs that are embedded in those different layers, the number and kinds of blobs. You see the chemical makeup of their shells and a particular layer. It can tell you if it was warmer or colder. If it was a stressful time or good time, and it really helps us to piece together what the earth was up to in. Particular moment in time, and it's what Gerda saw looking at these ancient blobs. That's what got her doubting the big Dino breakthrough of the century, right? So it's nineteen eighty. When the news hits that someone might have actually cracked the case figured out what killed the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs were among the most successful creatures on earth. I reflected on NPR's all things considered January eighth nineteen eighty and unexplained vanished about sixty five million years ago. All kinds of theories have been advanced. Why some say the earth got to warm weather cold and now Dr Luis Alvarez. Physicists at the university of California at Berkeley has come up with a novel theory of his own Louis Alvarez. The man with the theory. Imagine your classic fifty scientists. You know, horn, rimmed glasses, white dress shirt. That is Louis. He's a physicist, but he's not just any old physicist. Louis Elvas is a Nobel laureate who worked on the atomic bomb. He was actually in the fleet of planes that dropped the bomb on here, Shema. So he's a big deal. Of course, none of this has anything to do with dinosaurs, but Lewis's son. Walter is a geologist. I'm one day Alvares junior shows his dad, this hunk of rock that he picked up in Italy and running through this rock is this thin red layer of clay and dates to the end of the Cretaceous. This is the geologic period when all the dinosaurs kicked the bucket and together with some chemists, Alvarez, junior and senior discover something really interesting about that. Red line iridium giant spike of radium. We've found increased thirty times in radium in Italy, and then we looked in Denmark, and there goes up one hundred sixty times starting everything, and it's extrordinary because radium this metal, you don't usually find it in earth's crust. Like it's super rare here, but where. It's not rare is in space rocks, and so our senior comes up with the saiga. Asteroid about six miles and dammit or bumped into the earth. The asteroid pulverizes on impact sons up a massive dust cloud. The life cut out the light. Then you stop the photosynthesis. Darkness, plants die. The animals that eat the plants die. They animals that the animals that the plants die at the end of the Cretaceous, the earth is unrecognizable about two-thirds of all species gone and that includes the dinosaurs except for the ones that live and become birds. And pretty soon scientists all over the world are turning up signs of a giant rock impact signs that they'd missed before, like in Montana, they find shocked quartz this type of courts that only forms under extreme pressure, like when a giant rockets, the earth or in Texas signs of an ancient sue NAMI. Like when a giant rock hits the earth and sends up massive tidal waves and so on. And by the late eighties, a lot of scientists are coming around to the impact posits, but a lot of scientists aren't convinced. And that includes Gerda Gerda at this point is already at Princeton, and she's looking at her formative for a blobs and she's thinking what they're saying, what the Alvarez's are saying. It just can't be true, and here's why according to the Alvarez's when the sunlight cuts out, there's a mass extinction all over the world, all kinds of species die not just the dinosaurs, but species, small species, microscopic things like the formative FRA Curtis blobs and if the Alvarez or right, the extinction of all these species is sudden it's an apocalypse all over the world happening. Geologically speaking pretty much all at once. But when Curtis Gans are layers of rock, she doesn't see a sudden apocalypse. Her blobs are dying out gradually over an extended period, a gradual extinction. That in itself is a contradiction of what the Alvarez. Were saying, but that's not good as only objection. Gerda says her blobs. She sees them starting to decline well before the Alvarez's magic big rock from space hits. And so from work Gerda standing, it seems like yes, there was something that was killing off a lot of species at the end of the Cretaceous, but could you really say that this killer was a rock from space. If by the time it hits, they are already dying by nineteen Eighty-eight. Gird is ready to unveil her findings and she finds the opportunity. A bunch of planetary scientists have organized a conference in snowbird, Utah. It's a lot of space. People who really dig this threat from space idea and go decide she's going to head over and like, you know, show them that they're wrong. I saw they would look at the data and see maybe we have to rethink admits in retrospect, maybe she was a little naive going into this just a tad. She remembers throwing her. I lied if something like gradual, mass extinction emphasis on gradual. Said, Vosa guest, these all impactful and people immediately started lining up even before my introduction was given, and the line keeps growing. Gerda remembers that by the time talk over there about thirty people lined up, and they are all there to tell her that she's wrong. She doesn't know what he's talking about. She remembers shouting. So somewhere along the line, you probably had a very good science teacher tell you the disagreement is all part of the scientific process. Bright. She might not have mentioned the shouting, but in theory, descent, even impolite descent can be part of that push pull that moved science forward. The philosopher Karl Popper according to him, the Mark of a true scientific theory is not that you can prove it, it's that you could disprove it with the right evidence. And so your job, if you're a scientist with an empty theory is to try to knock that theory down, try to test it in tested. Again, try to disprove it, and if it's. Still standing. It might even be true, but now time for some real talk, generally speaking, that's not what size ientist in the lab or in the field or something. We're not thinking, I'm here, I'm going to I'm here to falsify some theory. You're trying to explore your own area of research and retired geologist who wrote a book about the Dino debates and he says, look scientists, they're human beings. They're gonna get attached to some ideas. They're not really gonna wanna knock down their own theories and that's and that's normal. But there is an antidote which is working in communities. Collectively, scientists will compete with each other, tell each other. They're wrong knocked down a week idea to the quote great disappointment of its proponents and to the advancement of science overall, that sounds pretty good. Did I say that. You know what I started saying later is more succinctly is science is better than scientists. Do you want elaborate? No, that's it. He does though science overcomes the weaknesses, the foibles mistakes, the bias to use of individuals, scientists, scientific disagreement, really did some good work actually in the Dyno debates after the Alvarez came in with their flashy theory, people were trying to either knock it down if they didn't like it or prop it up. If they did like it, hundreds of papers come out and that flood of evidence is great for science. But at that conference in nineteen eighty eight, there was way more hostility than Gerda was expecting, and it wasn't just this conference. By all accounts, these impact Bates were among the ugliest chapters in signs history, the tactics not excitedly scientific, the bullying, a name, calling this. Join careers threats to destroy careers, and we kind of have to acknowledge this part of the problem was Luis Alvarez. This big shot physicist didn't exactly have a ton of respect for paleontologists who up until this point had been the dinosaur experts and lewiston exactly try to hide how he felt about them, like told the New York Times. I don't like to say bad things about paleontologists. Always a good start to assent. Yeah, real promising, but they're really not very good scientists. They're more like stamp collectors and one geologist who disagreed with Louis Louis call to make quote weak sister, no-one invited to conferences anymore. This is like third grade stuff. Alvarez was a very strong personality and he said, and did some things personal things that he shouldn't have done. It went beyond Louis though, opponents of the impact type asus said that some journals were biased against them that it got really hard to publish anti impact papers in some of these journals. And Gerda says that some people were even afraid to speak out against it. And so this wasn't just healthy. Scientific disagreement. Greta says this was intimidation really grew to color was not intimidated true for Gerda being told that she's wrong that is just fuel. It made her. In many ways, invigorated, I've listened intimidated. It's not my nature. I was shoe at my dad was right. Gerda was ready to keep fighting like shirt team impacted. Have this rhythm spike, they had that in their corner, but it wasn't a clincher the anti impact team. They were still in the game. What God didn't know is the smoking gun that all those pro impact scientists had been waiting for. It had already been found that's coming up after the break. Undiscovered is supported by capterra dot com. We all face unexpected hurdles at work. Don't let finding the right software. One of them download capterra's new e book the big book of free software for free at capterra dot com. 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If you were scientists who didn't believe that a big impact kill the dinosaurs, you had one thing that you could hold onto kind of a Gotcha question, which is a rock that big hit the earth. Where is the hole and then in nineteen ninety, even that changes a group of scientists announce. They've found a pretty big hole. It's a crater hugging, the coast of the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico. It's over a hundred miles across enormous, partly on land, partly underwater, buried under deep layers of sediment. The geologist named chicks lube after a small village at the center. And it turns out this crater had been in front of us all along. Funny story. I actually vacationed inside the crater few months ago. Yeah, while working on this story and failed to notice, I kinda clicked in the day before I left, but there were. Actually geologist who notice long before nineteen ninety. I said, somehow caught loss on its way to the impact folks, but anyway, in nineteen ninety it all clicks together. And so Walter Alvarez and some others go down to Mexico and find a nice rocky outcrop. That tells the very story that they've been telling all along big impact, big su- NAMI spike in radium it is all there. That was actually the time I sought. Okay. So they are probably right. I figured okay, th they have to create it and they have the gym fine. That was when I saw die would get out of it. Get out of out of the kit and mass extinction business. Go onto something else give up that did not last long. So I called Walter Alvarez, the sun, and I said the congratulations, it's a very nice paper and it looks like you nailed it. Basically, you didn't create congratulations. But you know, maybe she should take a look for herself. They describe a particular cross section of rock. Could he give her the coordinates? And he said, no Walter declined to talk to us for the story, but good already had a reputation at this point depending on who you talk to reputation as stubbornly wrong. So if Walter did refuse to give her the coordinates, maybe that's why still even without the coordinates, GRA just goes, Jack, she heads out to Mexico. She takes a couple of collaborators with her and they just go to the general area where they know this rock is supposed to be, but this is a big area. So they're just one. Wandering around all day. It's getting late. They're not finding this piece of rock, but they do keep seeing these men on horseback with guns and they're kind of freaked out. But eventually they realize like they are not gonna find this thing without help. So Gerda approach is one of the men and she shows him this picture and says, have you seen this rock? And he says, yes, it's just down. Did was just a few hundred yards away later. She finds out that men with guns regarding marijuana plantation, just behind the hill. So Kerteh has her rock samples later. She analyzes them in her lab back home and she doesn't see what the other side is saying. Her interpretation is entirely different, and it actually changes a lot over the years. But today she says, okay, there was an impact, but the timing is wrong. She says this area in Mexico, it shows the impact happened almost two hundred thousand years before the end of the Cretaceous so it can't be their smoking gun. But in the nineties, it seems like the tide has turned against Gerda. They are done with her naysayer, hang, they have their crater and in nineteen ninety four. There's another big conference organized by space folks in Houston, and most people there seemed to be fully on the impact side. Every time someone Bint up. They would say, I believe Indian packed. They just go up and say, Hello, I believe in the impact, yes. And then people would wildly clip and. Temp. It was just. Loud and hitting the table in front of them. Good had a few allies at this conference. But for the most part, she felt like a pariah. It was depressing, but she still does not give up. She does not get out of the extinction business. And I, I asked her like, why? How do you keep going? I don't know, honestly sold about it myself many times why. And my husband has his often told me, forget it. Go moves onto something else via going through this Yukon change. Anybody's mind, vici Saul through. And I've thought about it many times and then I still couldn't do it. I'm just three even to find out for myself what really happened, which is admirable and what scientists are supposed to do. But other people like Jim Powell, who wrote the book on the Dino debate. It's they say, we know what really happened. A Mesnier killed the dinosaurs. The evidence just kept coming in after they found the chicks lube crater and it's still coming in today in twenty thirteen team of Berkeley scientists used improve nothing to compare the age of the impact and the age of the mass extinction. The age of the chicks loop impact. They found to be sixty six point zero, three, eight million years. The age of the mass extinction was sixty six point zero four, three million years. The same number within the air, and they are this. This stretches coincidence to round out the limit out to impossibility. Maybe Louis Alvarez was a bully, but Jim says, it's the scientific evidence that did win this debate. It wasn't intimidation. It was facts. So now we know what killed the dinosaurs a big rock from space closed, or is it. So you might not know it from reading a headline like this one, twenty ten quote a theory set in stone, an asteroid killed the dinosaurs after all, but over the decades, even as scientists Virk humilating all this evidence in favor of the rock from space theory. Another hypothesis has also been steadily gaining ground ball Kino's. So an India, there's the Spokane region called the Deccan traps and near the end of the Cretaceous. It starts rubbing and these aren't your typical volcanic eruptions. It's not a mountain blowing its top. It's more like the earth cracked open across thousands of miles and begin spewing lava and gases. And this goes on for hundreds of thousands of years. Bulky knows killed the dinosaurs. That's the idea. Gerda supports. Now, full Kano's could actually do a ton of the same stuff that big rock from space could do like block out the sun check erupting, volcanos Crete sulfate aerosols that can block out the light and caused global cooling. And when those aerosol settle, you're left with a lot of CO two which could cause global warming. So climate change. That's something a lot of people say a meteorite would also cause even the impact teams. Ridge clue that big iridium spike in nineteen three. The kilowatt volcano starts are up being the same one this active now, and what do scientists discover coming out of it. A rhythm. But here's the thing that really got me of the five big mass extinctions that have happened in earth's history. Three of those coincide with very intensive mechanic activity, and there's evidence to suspect bowl consume was involved in all of them. Chris recovery, either shuttle, so just feel free to try to neighbor last fall. I went to see her to speak at a conference. It was the geological society of America, and she was there to talk about her latest data on the Deccan traps. And I was really curious after hearing her to describe the kind of reception she got in the eighties and the nineties I was Chris, what kind of reception she'd get today. Next possession has come. When it's turned to talk, she looks super confident strolls right up to the front of the room when. Instead of taking the stairs. One might say the easy way for a seventy two year old to get onto a stage Gerda jumps onto the stage. I say it was about two or three feet high, and she tells the audience about all the work they're doing with mercury. Turns out that's a very good signature of volcanic activity had they're really trying to map out the history of the Deccan traps. As far as I can tell sitting in the crowd, it's all pretty smooth sailing no hostile lines, no booing and it's over. Thank you. Goes through steps a few, but she jumps off the stage instead. I can do. We don't have time for questions, but I think grit good isn't exactly popular. These days I was at this conference told other people about the story I was working on mentioned, Gert his name. I got some pretty deep exasperated size clearly. She still has a reputation at the same time. She's not exactly a pariah or an outsider either. Maybe people are just used to her now. I think it has something to do with the fact that the idea that she's backing now volcanoes as dinosaur killers, it's gaining momentum. Not that the impact I bought asus is in any way, shape or form out of the picture? No. And of course it doesn't have to be one of the other necessarily. It's not volcanoes versus big rock. Some people think it was a one, two punch a lot of Bulkin ISM weakened ecosystems. And then you have this meteorite delivering the knockout blow in two thousand fifteen team published a paper saying maybe the meteoroid even accelerated the volcanic activity at. At the geology conference, I decided to pull people to see what they thought. Where are we at now? What do people believe the meteors meteor thought culture. His London coaches just yesterday Kanus, definitely volcanoes. I don't think that decking. Vocalism wasn't involved. I think it is the collusion of multiple effects combined facts, multiple factors agreed. Is that good? They seem to be in the mood for compromise. Most of them were like, yeah, meteor. Obviously, we have canines they probably mattered to. It's a little bit of this little bit of that, but for no deal this whole one, two punch business. She told me it's basically the last gasp of a dying theory. The impact hypothesis meteor just not a big player and Jim Powell, even though he thinks Gerda is dead wrong on this. He spoke really highly of her and of all those paleontologists who thought this theory tooth and nail. He says, even if they're wrong, they helped their efforts wound up making the theory stronger. They made the Alvarez's and others go back and look. Again, look for more evidence until finally, the whole. Was stronger than it was at the time of the algorithm theory. Thanks in part to this resistance to the theory, and I think this may be something unusual about science is that criticism makes it stronger. If it doesn't kill it, it makes it stronger. Go to would agree with that. Undiscovered is reported in produced by me Ella fetter and me anti-monopoly our senior editors in Talladega, and our composer is Daniel Peterson special. Thanks this week to Lucy long. 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Why You Must Start Seeing Your Challenges as a Call-To-Action

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Why You Must Start Seeing Your Challenges as a Call-To-Action

"What if you knew that you couldn't fail. Wouldn't that be amazing. Well if you cultivate the habit of persistence you will not fail the thinking yourself into exponential results series on podcast comes to you every saturday and takes but we discuss in the morning mindset cloud compiles into one easy to access reporting and gives you some killer bonus content at the end. That's not to be missed an only available here so let's dive right in good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I am mirror alvarez and let's continue our conversation about persistence hill says there is no substitute for persistence. It cannot be supplanted by any other quality. Let's just stop right there. You must be persistent is what he say. You cannot have success if you are not persistent okay. There is no there is no way around this. There's no shortcut here. There's no. I'll do this instead. You must be persistent. And he says remember this and it will harm you in the beginning when the going seems to be difficult and slow if you are just starting out in business you must prove your grit. You must stay persistent. You can do that with ease and flow but generally speaking in the beginning. There's gonna be a lot of and you're going to be facing things that are difficult in hard. And you must persistently move through them now. There are easier ways to do this. Which is what. I coach my clients on and there are more challenging ways to do this. The beginning stops more people than further along the further along you are. You will still hit challenges but you will have built some confidence in yourself already. Okay and then as you keep going and you're further along in business and further along in business you will realize that you have been persistent that you have built the muscle of persistence and how key it is. And you can use that experience and that knowledge to persevere when things get challenging and ken because they will life is like the waves of the ocean businesses like the waves of the ocean. The waves are going to keep coming. You must learn how to serve part of learning how to surf. There's lots to this but part of it is being persistent. You just need to stay in the game. Stick with it. Keep going keep not necessarily keep going in the same manner that's banging your head against the wall and that's the definition of insanity but she must keep trying. The classic example of this is edison with the light bulb. It took a thousand tries for him to create the image that he held in his mind. A thousand tries that means a thousand failures or for a thousand temporary defeats but he was persistent. He was like. I'm going to try this. I'll try this. What about this. What if i try this. And he kept going. He didn't do the same thing over and over again. And this has to be how you show up as well so if you are in a challenge right now pas and ask a better question. How can i do this differently. How can i make this easy. How can i keep going is the answer. That's right here right now for you. Good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm amira alvarez and let's continue our conversation on persistence. Hill says those who have cultivated. The habit of persistence seemed to enjoy insurance against failure. Don't you want that insurance against failure. What if you knew that you couldn't fail. Wouldn't that be amazing. Well if you cultivate the habit of persistence you will not fail. We'll they'll be temporary defeats. Will there be challenges will be bumps in the road mountains in your way absolutely but you have to learn how to move mountains and this requires persistence. You must cultivate persistence. Hell goes on to say no matter. How many times. They are defeated. They finally arrive up toward the top of the ladder. Sometimes it appears that there is a hidden guide whose duty it is to test men through all sorts of discouraging ince's those who pick themselves up after defeat and keep on trying arrive and the world cries bravo. I knew you could do it. The hidden guide leads. No-one enjoy great achievement. Without passing the persistence test. Those who can't take it simply. Do not make the grade. This is an absolute truth. Hundred percent no exceptions there will always be challenges in life data the hidden guide. It's there to encourage you to grow but it requires your persistence in that growth. The thing that's in front of you. That's challenging you right now. You have choices you can grow from it. You can become more. You can take it as a throw down the gauntlet. I will step up to this challenge. I will figure this out. I will grow through it and become more. That's where success comes from a war. You can say this is too much for me. I quit. I turn around i stop. I'm defeated those are the choices. Which are you going to choose sure enough. It could just be temporary defeat. It could just be six months. It could be just two years. It could just be five years but we want to close the gap time. How long are you going to stay. Defeated mentally emotionally and stopped taking action. Stop being persistent. How quickly can you pull yourself up by the bootstraps now. This is not an argument for suppressing your emotions or just putting a smiley face on you want to feel the fields and you want to problem solve so that you can move through and become more not just stay at the same level in grinded out so grinded out has a couple different meanings. I use it in both ways in this case. I'm meaning like you're just hitting your head against the wall you're not actually growing but grinding it out is sometimes what's required to move through the challenge and this is a positive grinded out. This means you know what. I have to learn the skill set and i have to do it over and over and over again and i need to to build that ability in myself and it's going to feel like a grind in this initially challenging for me. I haven't learned it yet. That's persistence that's growth. So are you going to be someone who can take it and is going to pick up that challenge or are you going to be someone who is defeated in this case it is a plaque and white answer it is binary you must decide that you are someone who persists good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm maria alvarez and let's continue on this theme of persistence hill goes on to say those who can take it and here. He's referring to the guide whose duty is to test men through all sorts of discouraging experiences. And those who picked themselves up after defeat in keep on trying those are the ones who can take it. Okay so those who take it are bountifully rewarded for their persistence. They receive as their compensation. Whatever goal they are pursuing that is not all they received something infinitely more important than material compensation the knowledge that every failure brings with it the seed of an equivalent advantage. This is so important. This is the law polarity. Polarity says that everything is created. As a whole there are no halves. There are no fractions. Fractions are a creation of our imagination of human imagination. But everything in this universe is created whole. There are two sides to everything up down left right front back. You can't have front without a back. Can't have left without a ride or an up without a down top. Without a bottom everything is created as a whole which means that every failure also has the equivalent seed of an advantage that comes with it an equal and opposite success and if you are persistent you will achieve that success. There is an equivalent success. Big problem big opportunity but you must be persistent in your pursuit of that in order to call in the success that you want in order to release the side that has failure and step into the side that is success. The win the next level so this is a big concept and i understand that it might be challenging to grasp. If you don't understand this please write a comment or email. Us and i will answer your question. Hello hello and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm a mirror alvarez and let's get going here hilson says they. The people who are persistent are the ones who have not accepted defeat as being anything more than temporary they are the ones whose desires are so persistently implied that defeat is finally changed into victory. We who stand on the sidelines of life. See the overwhelming Overwhelmingly large number. Who go down in defeat. Never to rise again. We see the few who take the punishment of defeat as an urge to greater effort. These fortunately never learned to accept. Life's reverse gear but what we do not see what most of us never suspect. Existing is the silent but irresistible power. Which comes to the rescue of those who fight on in the face of discouragement. If we speak of this power at all we call it. Persistence and let it go at that. One thing. we all know one does not possess persistence. one does not achieve noteworthy success in any calling. Okay a few things to highlight here. We see the few who take the punishment of defeat as an urge to greater effort. Is that how you're seeing the challenges that you face now. Effort doesn't need to mean struggle. Doesn't need to mean monkey on your back. sometimes it does. Sometimes you have to move through that sometimes you have to be persistent there but fundamentally we want to get in the flow of life so that when we see the challenge were like game on. Let's go. I can figure this out. Yes and we roll with it. We know we have the expectation that you know what life comes with challenges. Am i going to crawl into my hidey-hole in go under the covers. Am i going to feel sorry for myself or am i going to say yes. Of course this is. What's in front of me. And now i need to step forward and up to the challenge and when you get good at this and you release the internal idea that you are somehow wrong or not enough because this challenge has come your way can easily make some quick decisions of course correct. Make some phone calls solved. The problem do the thing. It's not to say that there will never be challenges and the will be big challenges but you must see it as a call to action and you must see yourself as being able to handle it easily. this is ultimately where you'll get to in the beginning. There's a bit of a rocky road that you have to move through and you need to use persistence there especially and as you get good at this. I see my clients who've been with me for a while. Get better and better and better at this to the point where they're able to handle major issues in a matter of twenty or thirty minutes rather than being down for the count they're able to handle. Were client issues. I just something that just popped into my head. Someone made a proposal recently in the client said that they they weren't happy with their company would going with another company and she handled it with such a plume that a mere three four days later he was back saying you know i changed my mind. I really like to work with you the way you handled that made so much sense to me. This is how it works. She didn't get thrown off. She didn't get get defeated by it. She knew how to handle it but she had to go through a number of experiences earlier and stay persistent and not give up to get to that place. Now there's another thing in this section that i want to highlight heat hill says but what we do not see what most of us never suspect of existing is silent but irresistible power which comes to the rescue of those who fight on in the face. Scourge meant what is that that is spirit that is source. That's the universe that is god that is life energy is divine intelligence. It is here for you all the time but you need to meet it and say you really want what you want and the way you communicate that is through persistence. It's through. Say i do want you think it's testing you and it is saying to. You really want this to really want this and when you say yes when you step forward persistently ask better questions in do the work and take the action. You will get the ways and the means to solve the problem. You will get the ideas. The opportunities the brainstorms the intuitive hits the divine downloads and spirit will guide you but you must stay persistent. So are you accepting temporary defeat. Are you available for that. Are you allowing it into your life. Are you allowing that to be part of your behavioral patterns. If you are. How quickly can you get right back at it. Hello hello and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm amira alvarez and let's jump into a story that hill shares here in this chapter on persistence. He says the secret is told in the struggle. A fannie hurst whose persistence conquered the great white way. Now the great white way is a nickname for a section of broadway in mid town so just in case. You wanna know what that means. She came to new york. In nineteen fifteen to convert writing into rich's the conversion did not come quickly but it came for four years. Miss hearse learn about the sidewalks of new york from firsthand experience. She spent her days laboring in her nights hoping when hope grew dim she did not say all right broadway you win. She said very well broadway. You may whip some but not me. I'm going to force you to give up. One publisher the saturday evening post sent her thirty six rejection slips before she broke the ice and got a story across the average writer like the average other walks of life would have given up the job when the first rejection slip came. She pounded the pavement for four years to the tune of the publishers. No because she was determined to win then came the payoff. The spell has been broken. The unseen guide had tested fannie hurst and she could take it from the time on from that time on. Publishers made a beaten path to her door. Money came so fast she hardly had time to count it then. The moving picture men discovered her and money came not in small change but in floods the moving picture rights to her latest novel. Great laughter brought hundred thousand dollars said to be the highest price ever paid for a story before publication. Her royalties from the sale of the book. Probably will run much more and so it goes on here is it's so important. Here is a story one single story but you can find examples of this in every successful person. Just ask them look up stories of other writers. And how many times they got rejected. Look to see how many times people got told no and had to get up. Michael jordan was cut from his high school varsity team. Did he accept defeat. He worked his ass off to get better. And so did this woman fannie hurst. She wasn't good enough to achieve success. Initially she had to better her best. She had to grow and she had to stay in the game. She had to stay persistent. How are you going to better your best. How are you going to stay persistent today. Good morning and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club. I'm mira alvarez and let's get started hill says. Persistence is a state of mind. Therefore it can be cultivated like allstate's of mine. Persistence is based upon definite causes. I'm gonna pause. Their persistence is based upon definite causes. There is always a cause that comes before the effect the result that you want this is the law of and effect if you want a particular result where a particular like being persistent you must put in the correct causes. So let's talk about what those are hill says that they are definite -ness of so one of the causes of persistence is being definite in your purpose knowing what ones what one wants is the first and perhaps the most important step toward the development of persistence. A strong motive forces one to surmount many difficulties. This is so true. His next point is desire am would say that that goes hand-in-hand with desire desire. He says it is comparatively easy to acquire and to maintain persistence in pursuing the object of intense desire. You must have a burning desire. You must have an obsession you with that kind of obsession that kind of burning desire that crew want you will have a strong enough motive to overcome in surmount. The challenges that inevitably come up. When you're scaling your business going for your big goal going after what you want. The third point that pill makes in terms of what causes. Persistence is self reliance which he defines as the belief in one's ability to carry out a plan that believe encourages one to follow the plan through with persistence. Self-reliance can be developed through the principle described in the chapter on auto suggestion. So if you're having trouble with feeling self-reliant you must start following through on the little things in your life and start building them. Don't stick with the little things alone. That's a recipe for giving up on yourself. That's a recipe for going slow. That's a recipe for stopping. That's a recipe for for lying to yourself but start with the small things and rapidly build up to bigger and bigger things that you do consistently you follow through on. Nextstep hill says definite -ness of plans. That's a requirement for persistence. If you don't have clear organized plans it's hard to be persistent. you're gonna be waylaid. He says organiz plans. Even though they may be weak and entirely impractical. Encourage persistence. so think about that. Do you have an organized plan. This is something that i teach in the business acceleration bootcamp. If you are interested in figuring out how to do that please reach out to us. The next thing up is accurate knowledge. Knowing that one's plans are sound based upon experience or observation encourages persistence guessing instead of knowing destroys experience. You must get a destroys persistence. Excuse me you must get experience. You must put yourself out there. You must go forward and make those mistakes. That's how you're going to gain experience in get accurate knowledge next up cooperation sympathy understanding and harmonious cooperation with others tends to develop persistence. If you're always at counterpart purposes with the people you work with your clients your partner the people in your life. It's going to be hard for you. To keep moving forward persistently you wanna be in relationships. Any toxic relationships have got to go next up willpower. The habit of concentrating one's thoughts upon the building plans for the attainment of a definite purpose leads to persistence. You must focus guys. You have to focus. Let me say it again. You have to learn how to focus in last in. His list is habit. Persistence is the direct result of habit. The mind absorbs and becomes a part of the daily experiences upon which it feeds your habits. Your daily habits fear. The worst of all enemies can be effectively cured by forced repetition of acts of courage. Everyone who's seen active service in more knows this. You can build your persistence. Build your ability to go forward through a repetition of acts of courage. Courage means you feel the fear and you do it anyways. Your courageous in the face of fear. You fear a little less but the fears there and you go you do the thing can mourn and welcome to another great day with the morning mindset club we are now on the section entitled symptoms of lack of persistence. Hill says here you will find the real enemies which stand between you and noteworthy achievement. So this is really important guys. Listen up really listen up. This is what standing between you and noteworthy achievement here. You will not only find the symptoms indicating weakness persistence but also the deeply. Seated subconscious causes of this weakness. Studied the list carefully and face yourself squarely if you really wish to know who you are and what you are capable of doing. These are the weaknesses which must be mastered by all who accumulate riches. So important this is one of those things. You're going to want to really pay attention here. One failure to recognize into clearly. Define exactly what one wants to a little double check. Do know clearly what you want. Do you have a definite chief. Aim to have a defined goal for yourself. You might have lots of subsidiary goals and then something that i share how to handle with the women in the spirit of wealth group i have a high level masterminded masterclass and i take them through. Something called a belief reprogramming process and help them create something called the creation playbook which allows you to have multiple goals. But you need to have one overriding chief. Definite aim number two procrastination with or without cause usually backed up with a formidable array of alibis and excuses. Take a look. What are you putting off. what are you saying. I can't do that now to do this instead. Where you go in fogging out pushing it aside be really honest with yourself number. Three lack of interest in acquiring specialized knowledge. You must be someone who is a master at what they do and you need the knowledge required to do that. We must invest in your education. You must invest your time and your money in bettering your best in making sure. You're the best at your field. You must hire people with specialized knowledge if you don't have it and it's not your genius to learn in that field. You must acquire specialized knowledge either for yourself or through someone else number. Four indecision the habit of passing the buck on all occasions instead of fair instead of facing issue squarely also backed by alibis. Alibis are excuses stories the rationalizations that you make indecision guys. Indecision is a decision to stay stopped. Indecision is a decision to stay stop. Indecision is a decision to say small and to limit your income. Got a drop kick it. You must become a quick decider five. The habit of relying upon alibis instead of creating definite plans for the solutions of problems. This is so key. Stop making up rationalizations. Stop saying it's because blah blah happened. I can't because blah blah blah. I didn't because blah blah blah blah. I'll do that later. Because bob no stop it. Stop it come up with a plan. Write it down. Tell me what you're gonna do. Then go do it find the solution. Don't stay in the story that. Excuse the rationalization for why you can't figure out how you can number six self-satisfaction there is but little remedy for this affliction and no hope for those who suffer from it self satisfaction. I'm all good. I'm so great. I don't have to do more. That's it done the best. It's gonna get no keep growing. You're either growing your dying. Do not stay limited. Do not hold yourself back by saying it's good enough your good enough step into your glory by stepping into more for the bonus content of this episode. I wanna talk about what kind of self image you need to have to have this attitude of persistence to have an attitude that you can serve. You can ride the waves. The challenges that life is going to present itself because there will be challenges that is life it is not all rainbows in unicorns and we all know that. But we also all intuitively know that we can actually ride that wave so much easier that it doesn't have to throw us off our game or really crush us. It doesn't have to be a struggle in yet. Most people start off living a life that is in some manner. Some percentage of the way they look at it has a victim mentality. It's just happening to me. Life is happening to me. Versus life is happening for me now that expression you may have heard of already and yet are you living it. Do you still have in some part of your thinking in some way that you're showing up this this monkey on your back. Wow that was a hard day while the that boss said that to me. They made my life horrible. That person over there in my relationship my lover my my husband my wife my brother my sister my mother my father my best friend my colleague my partner mike the mike contractor did something to me that really aft- up my day that's a victim mentality and what that's indicative of is that you have a self image that understands herself has the identity that she is not a powerful creator in this world she is not someone who is a hundred percent at cause for her outcomes you have a self image and identity that says life happens to me. I don't have any control. I don't have any control over my outcomes now. Of course you know that you have control over some of your outcomes from the very simplistic things of like being able to go to the sink and pour yourself a glass of water. You have control over that but there are things in your life as as the the situation gets bigger and bigger that you don't feel like you have control over one main piece that people feel very out of control about is money how to create money how to create as much money as they want in the time from that they want it in. They are slave to money. Rather being the master of it they are a victim of it rather than knowing how to be a powerful creator and all of that links right back to your self image. You must do two things in order to get different outcomes. You must change your self image who you understand yourself to who you know yourself to be. Now that is housed in your subconscious and most people have a conscious conception of who they are. That is not the same thing as what they hold in their subconscious. And guess what the self image that's in your subconscious is what wins the day. Your subconscious drives all your behavior. It drives how you see this world perspective it drives whether you are going to be someone who is persistent or not whose persistent only after. They complain. Only after they struggle. What if you were just game on. Let's go right now. Nothing threw you off. What if you had that level of persistent so set self image must be changed to match the results that you want. And that's not just on the conscious level but on the subconscious level super important and then the second thing that needs to change our your actions you must take different actions self image plus new action and when you have that new action and you experience success at a different level you done start seeing yourself as a winner instead of a loser as capable now able to handle it versus not able to handle it as someone who has control over her life has certainty rather than uncertainty or confusion or overwhelm and those two things worked together self image and new action. You must do both the self image guides you to be able to take the new action gives you the possibility of taking the new action and then the new action builds a new self image. They go hand in hand. You can't do one without the other. You must build both into your tool kit and if this is something that you're interested in learning about please book consult with me. I'd be happy to tell you more. Okay with that rocket out. be unstoppable. And i'll see in the next episode. Hey are you loving this material. We'd love to know. Join our be unstoppable. Facebook group where we go live answering your questions and sharing even more material to help you step forward powerfully in your business and your life. Go to the unstoppable woman dot com slash facebook group. When you get there leave us a comment or ask us a question. We'd love to hear from you see in the group and rock it out beyond stopped.

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Luis Alvarez, U.S. Army, Iraq, Healing Heroes

Veterans Chronicles

33:51 min | 3 months ago

Luis Alvarez, U.S. Army, Iraq, Healing Heroes

"Chronicles is sponsored by the state of Qatar representing cutters commitment to the US. Hi Greg Rumba guest this week on veterans chronicles is the US Army veteran Luis Alvarez he is a West Point graduate and has a PhD from Mit while serving in Iraq. Louis came to the conclusion that too many of his fellow soldiers ended up having amputations following traumatic injuries. He believe there had to be a better way to regenerate bone and. Soft tissue, and so he embarked with the military's blessing on an effort to make that vision a reality Louis says the founder of Thera-. DOPP give a regenerative. Therapeutics Company. You joins us today to discuss his time in the service and his ongoing work to help those wounded and service to our country and Louis. Thank you very much for being with us. Is Great to be here. Thanks so much. We'll let's start at the beginning of your story where were you born and raised? So, born raised in Miami Florida and never really left Laura that often until decided to join join the army. So I'm in Florida boy after is there a military service history and your family? Yes, my both my grandfathers fought on opposite sides of the Spanish civil war. Lucky for me. Neither of them was a good shot, my father and uncle both served my uncle here in the US and my father in the Spanish Army I felt a calling to serve as well for my country. So it was it was kind of drew me to serve when I was very young. What was the reason you wanted to attend west point and when did that start that interest in attending West Point? Really didn't know very much about the service academies somebody. Might attention that you could go to military school but also studied airing. And that that will give you a path delay on choose of course, either career military service or go on to do other things is I wanted to do science. So it was very interesting to me in different than the other universities a blind. I decided to go for for both. Naval. Academy at West Point and I don't like the water that much I went to West Point. Out of those years at West Point change you as a person and as a soldier you know I, think they were formative years for me I of course, everyone who goes there quite young and for me, it was a refreshing experience in a way. You don't hear that often or the first couple of months or you know kind of a culture shock but. After that, you really can thrive right you for me. It was unexperienced to learn not just academics. But also had lead people in it was kind of laboratory where you can test leadership styles and it was just along fun for me and they're not good memories of Debbie. What Year you commissioned. On Nine, hundred, Ninety, seven, nineteen, ninety-seven, and where did they send you upon commissioning Well right. After West Point in my last year had applied to what's called the Hertz Foundation. Fellowship. And the army at the time only really had small handful fellowships they would allow you to a us to go to graduate school back. Then it was the roads, the Truman, the Marshall in the hurts. So the hurts is technical fellowship lets you get your peachy. And So first assignment out of the army was actually to MIT. To do a master's degree. and then the it I called the army branch management I said, what would be a good assignment for me and they said the greatest opportunities for you and be in South Korea. So I believed him and. Accepted that assignment. Was He, right. He was right. Actually I thought. Well, this is not. Look. Back then was the last time that you want to go to besides maybe Alaska or Alabama. but. I ended up going to the Second Infantry Division and then when I got there. They said actually, you're being reassigned from original unit to for seven cats, which is Division Cavalry Squadron Know. Much closer to the DMZ and I gotTa tell you. It was probably one of my favorite assignments looking back. It was really a great experience. And where did you go after that? After that, the came back to the US the. Military Intelligence advanced course kind of until. And then went to Fort Hood in read as I was finishing the counter result or nine eleven happened. So essentially everything from their forward just completely changed. So I went to forge it into the first camp. Division. And was the division targeting officer and then served as a brigade S. two for the Fifth Brigade Combat? Team? We deployed to Iraq from there so that does it was The super bowl of MIT for me. It's really great experience. When were you in Iraq? I was in Iraq from old four to five. And then we came back unit was. decommissioned. were. Brigade combat in most assemble. At. Hawk were a tank battalion, an infantry battalion and Millar Multiple Launch Rocket. Battalion hundred converted infantry so we were this type of. junkyard dog of sorts Unit. But we really unique cohesion that way and it was really a great a great unit serving. I don't know if there is such a thing as a typical day in Iraq but what were your general responsibilities and duties there? So. I was the s to, which is the intelligence officer for the Fifth Brigade. Combat. Team and the Pittsburgh gain had responsibility for essentially the southern half of Baghdad. Everything from what you might hear highway eight. In the airport under the river on down to to will they call the fee us a lot of? The. Is AFIA and My responsibilities weren't to coordinate all the intelligence operations collection dissemination. interogations. And humans human intelligence in the southern half back. At what point did you start to notice the wounds of your fellow soldiers and think that of these traumatic wounds too many of them are ending up his amputations when did that that that idea I start coming to your mind? Well actually. That was a kind of a delayed effects because many people were were becoming injured and being Meta backed out. Including you know Y- uncontrolled and I was on. was hit with an idea or gunner. was severely wounded. And what I saw. There was a mini limbs were mangled but when you get to the Green Zone hospital, they're able to stabilize people on do some really. Miraculous worked to save limbs go W when I go back to the states I would hear accounts of some of these same people and other people who had amputation weeks or months after the original injury and I found that really troubling because I thought well military medicine is really not allowed to save people's lives and salvage a limb But what ended up happening is that you normally those limbs would have either bone or nerve or or vessels at heal properly incidentally actually became more of a burden than than useful appendage so they would. Undergo mutation and I thought we really need to focus on the sub problem here. We just had to regenerate tissues so that people can You know not only salvage Olympic actually make it useful again. So that was the kind of the realization that that brought the idea. I know you're not a doctor but and he talked about this a little bit. But what generally goes into the decision the doctors make that the amputation needs to happen. Well number one. You know the question is is useful to you, right? So if you have a limb. That you'd salvage elements alive but let's say you're not able to heal the bone have persistent break. Then, you actually can't use it limb you have to use a wheelchair or. Crutches your whole life I mean that's more of a disability whereas if you take the sale lower extremity link leg and you get fitted with a good prosthetic, the outcomes are actually superior. To having your original limb. So the decision is, do you want to have a higher quality of life of this prosthetic or you WanNa keep original limb and always have a disability That's greater than you would have had. So it's it's a very hard calculation. Imagine somebody telling you. Wanted to give up your leg. To lead a better lights, I mean I would never wanna be faced with that decision. So as you were thinking about this, was it a matter of seeing that prosthetics to some level were doing better than the actual limbs and you kind of extrapolated that to to bone and soft tissue in general or was it part of your academic training before that that kind of fed into year analysis of that? Why head some some experience that I might the masters. Degree in by generic I thought. What is the root problem is causing people to have delayed amputation, and in almost all cases it was that some tissue was not regenerate whether it's the bone or the nerve, the vessel. So I I decided to focus on one of those. One of the most common ones which is the bone doesn't Keel called the nonunion. I finished up my time in Iraq. I applied back to MIT. To use the remaining years from the Hertz Foundation and decided to devote myself to figuring out how do you develop a new medical implant that allows bone to regenerate in a way you can't do now so that that that's what drove the decision of do this. How did you? Pitch is the right word. But how did you bring this up to the military and ask them to get behind her efforts here? It was a funny thing actually. I got back from Iraq a there's a form in the army called the forty, one, eighty, seven. And it's a, it's a one page form at Lisa was back on. The bottom half empty and it's where you requests. Follow on assignments. So I basically wrote in that empty space, you will reassigned me to mit detachments goes Mit, and then you'll reassigned to natick labs so that I can take your tour and by the way you're gonNA give me three years to do this when I said. The branch manager time almost was could contain his laughter because this type of requests was you know an unheard of. So I went to my commander of time. Stephen Lanza Colonel Stephen Lanza who commended. For many years later he's give me ten minutes and. Twenty minutes later I get a call from my brand saying you're forty, one, eighty seven is approved and that sent me on my way back to wrestles took just the intervention at one. Very convincing commander. That's outstanding Lewis. Let's pause right there. When we come back on veterans chronicles will pick up Luis Alvarez story and how he's working now to help heal his fellow warriors. If we've learned anything this year, it's the importance of soap and supporting small American businesses that keep our economy going. That's why we're introducing hero soap company a brand the pays homage to the values our country. was founded on with a US Air Force veteran as an owner hero soap company understands the dedication and sacrifice each family makes to serve handmade in Phoenix. Arizona. 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Mind you to have the military support his efforts to go figure out better ways to regenerate bones injured in combat and so Louis what did you do? Once you got this blessing from the armed forces. How did you begin to turn this into an actual project, a research and that sort of thing where you start with something like that. Sure. So For me, it was an amazing opportunity because I could remain on active duty I wanted to continue serving but. I also felt compelled to try to solve this problem in a meaningful way. and. So this is where the Hertz Foundation on candidate playing the Hertz Foundation and actually. It has a long history. They provide graduate fellowships in the hard sciences and engineering and mathematics. and. It was actually started with the original mission was that anyone who receives his fellowship should be willing to give their talents in a time of national crisis so I kind of grew out of the Manhattan project and so on. So a fellowship was. Not, and then at Mit specify what it is, I wanted to work on normally you go to Grad school and your advisor would tell you what you're GonNa do but I had the fortune of working with Professor Linda Griffiths who was just a visionary in the field regenerative medicine and she gave me great guidance and inspiration. And it was in her lab that we were able to develops technology. And so did you have an idea already in mind? Was it a matter of trial and error? How did you go about figuring out exactly what would be the most effective at at regeneration? So, we had a base project which dealt with protein engineering. And this idea is something that I had. On the side and so I I said Linda Linda aside idea side project and She was very flexible to let them you do that early. Some advisors will not let it that so. What turned in what was a side project turned into a very successful effort to figure out Hud attached proteins to implant materials like ceramics. And because of this, they were able to establish the foundation for the technology. So, attaching proteins to ceramics and prosthetics what's involved in that work? Well. It is really a question. Now, how do you engineer protein that of preferring to be in the liquid it prefers to be stuck to a surface and this involves of course, amounted by by chemistry and summer than Amex. But if you understand these principles and you can change protein so they changed their character they go from being something that likes to be in solution. To to wanting to stick on a surface like a paint. And once you do that then now you can think about making a protein that has a growth factor or something that promotes regeneration stuck to the service implant. Now you created an implant gender. So where do you take that discovery from what let's? Let's back up a little bit actually. So how long did it take to to get to the point that you wanted to be with that? How much trial and error experimentation was required for? You got to the next phase so I would say that the most of that work I did in my second year at Mit. And then when I entered back into Regular army assignment I applied for career development. Awards through. For Dietrich, they have the congressionally directed medical research programs, which fund military medical research. Into one of those grants was able to establish small research effort and grow. The the technology. and then you know there are many years went by where I was in other assignments where I can really work on this. So there were there was some delay there, but in the end. When I retired from the Army I. Formed a company and licensed technology back to be able to develop as a commercial product. How many different steps or or layers to this process? Are there I know and we'll talk about this a little bit more in just a little bit that you've gone through animal trials with this you're getting ready for for human trials but from. When. You're in the lab working with proteins and ceramics all the way down to actually getting human patients involved I assume there's a lot of different layers. So how does that progression work it is it's a very long process taking and somewhere between seven to ten years for usual protein therapeutic for us. It has been no different. And so a lot of the work early on was to prove does this really work. So we've done a lot of animal studies and developed an implant. That is useful for surgeons to actually use trauma injuries, for example. and that has taken many millions of dollars a years of effort to get to the point where now you can ask if the permission can we try this human? So it's a it's a lot of effort, establish the safety and efficacy animals, and then you go to the FDA say I'd like to run trials try the Swiss with humans who really may not have any alternatives to heal injuries. So we're really excited to be able to just. Start doing that in the next eighteen months. What's the working relationship with the FDA? Like how often do you have to check back in with them at each step of the process than how arduous is the approval? Well, the has been great actually to work with you know you hear horror stories but we have found that they are very forthcoming will give you a lot of implants taken the approach of talk with them early and often. And we really benefited from that. So we we think the FDA for helping us understand what what's required. So almost caught up to where you are right now but there's so much more to talk about here Louis. Let's pause one more time with Louis Alvarez. He's the founder of Thera- adaptive. He's a US Army veteran and we're talking about ways to regenerate bone and tissue to help our wounded warriors and Americans dealing with all sorts of issues. Perhaps down the road, we'll be right back. Welcome back to veterans chronicles happy to be joined today by Luis Alvarez a US Army veteran west point graduate, and he's now the founder of adaptive and we've been talking about pursuing this vision of making more regenerative bone and tissue material to help our wounded warriors and its technology and and developments that could certainly help Americans dealing with all sorts of injuries and other ailments as as time goes on. So Louis, we kinda talked about the path leading up to pretty much where you are right now let's talk a little bit about the animal trials though what were you looking for in those and and how close for the results to what you wanted to say? Yes Oh. We had a prototypes for what we thought. The implant should look like and we're fortunate to be able to design that quickly. and so the next step is to test whether or not. You can heal a bone defect in an animal. Let's say. You lose five centimeters of bone in an accident. So that's the type of model we looked at in large animals. We did this study at the Cleveland Clinic one of the top orthopedic hospitals in country and we found that we were able to completely regenerate along dissect. In fact, much better than the current standard of care. So we were very encouraged by this. We got a strong positive signal in that study and all the other we've done about half a dozen other studies in other animals all giving the same type of result were able to really induce really our whole bone formation in a way that hasn't been seen before. What's the timetable once you start? Helping them with these proteins and so forth how quickly does the bone start to regenerate and and that sort of thing. Esso, even as a as early as four weeks In some studies, we saw a bone already starting to four as going can take many months to heal. But in all the animals studies that we've done or even the twelve weeks, we see complete healing in some cases. So it's a quite Quite a rapid processing in some cases. For what I've seen the goal is weeks not months for major breaks and legs and perhaps repairing cartilage that otherwise would not be able to be repaired at all. Do, you have to choose certain animals that most closely lineup with how human bones function or is that pretty similar across the board. That's a good question there differences. So yeah, we've. To account for that, we've done studies in. Rats. Goats and rabbits. were run out animal species to test in the FDA's purposes that that checks all the boxes. So now we're very confident working those animals. It's been shown that it will it will work in humans and he side effects at all. Well. Let's the other interesting thing of the this technology the there's another product on the market cold emt. To that that we can form as well but there's a lot of problems with keeping that protein in place. It doesn't stick to any services so you can have bone informing in other tissues like muscle that can produce some really serious side effects. because. We stick to the device. We lamented that side effect, and so we have a much lower. We think will be a much lower side. It's co- file than the current best therapy on Warner female. So you have the green light now for the human trials, will we do not yet our wrapping up our animal studies and we are submitting very shortly to the sea what's called an it which is the request permission to begin a phase one human study. And that'll be happening over the next twelve months never anyone who's followed clinical trials whether it's for. Vaccines or disease of some sort beginning human trials can still take a long time to get to where you want to be. But if you don't have any major setbacks, how soon could this theoretically be available right so as you maybe familiar many listeners there are three stages phase, one, two and three. Complete all stages in this case may take four and a half. So maybe five years from today. Oh that's fantastic and so you're focusing on bone but other areas of the body could potentially benefit from the technology that you've developed here. Sure so yeah I think the underlying platform technology that we have goes beyond dome that you mentioned. Anytime that you have. Figured out how to stick a protein to a surface that means now, we can take any protein. We want any growth factor and stick it onto virtually any implant. So that means, you can now address cartilage. Skin nerves. other soft tissues. So the company is also thinking about how to apply the technology to other tissues. It's not a one shot one, one goal type of therapy. It's a platform which can be extended to almost any tissue. So. It's a very exciting direction. So it's not just skeletal and muscular is this something that could potentially be beneficial for combating disease or is it have to be some sort of tissue involved in some way? Well, it's a really good question. So for example, say you wanted to do localized chemotherapy. in some cases in brain cancer such as clear blessed Oma. There are approaches where. You know. You're able to place a way for the has chemotherapy agent on the brain, and that will deliver that agent locally. So that that approach. Has Shown some success You could adapt technology to deliver therapeutics on same way because now you can have them stick onto a device as a device dissolves it releases a chemotherapy agent. So we think there are also applications the treatment of diseases like cancer or other diseases where you want local persistent delivery of are. So, this is a discovery that could really benefit millions. Millions of people once the prototype is set here. Yes with resources we think you can have a huge. What you mentioned resources and also co-founded the defense. Department's Office looking into regeneration issues talk about the collaboration you've had with Pentagon and the military and as you've gone about this work. Whereas my Simon said, as you said, taking me to Karan management of medical programs within the DOD when I was army major and lieutenant colonel and. A part. Of. That was managing. The regenerative medicine portfolios and gave me a view of essentially a lot of efforts and I learned a lot. There was a kind of mini business school. You see what's done right and what isn't done right and So when I left the service retired. A. had. The company looked into applying for grants. We the company applies for competitive grants and competes alongside everyone else these are blinded or viewed by external channels so. The company's done very well and being able to raise. non-delivery funding through the congressionally directed medical research program, and it has provided phenomenal support for for the technology and for the therapy of development. What are you hearing from wounded warriors on this issue? we get emails almost every day from people who are suffering from conditions like non union. Failure to heal that are just will. Like changing ability. and. Those emails really provide motivation for the team to to develop these therapies because there is an alternative, there are no current treatment. So we're hearing people a lot of hope and a lot of expectation about what's what's happening. Is there any sort of time window on how soon after an injury the sort of therapy would need to take place or could it worked twenty years after the injury? Well remains a an interesting question There are times when a non union can be traded years later, that will eventually he`ll So. That points to the fact that the body does have some residual regenerative capacity. If this therapy can trigger that then you might eventually be able to address injuries that have been around for years, but ideally, you want to treat something within a couple of weeks. So. Luiz you mentioned that obviously this is researched that takes years and years and years that means lots and lots of funding Are you asking for folks to help out is the partnership with the military and others providing those resources? You mentioned the private money of also gotten so good on resources or can folks help out if they'd like to? What we company yeah, as you mentioned, his is doing quite a bit and being a good steward of these grants from the dod from the Congressionally Directed Medical Research. program. and isn't a process now raising additional funding through venture capital. and The company will require more more resources against into phase two and three very expensive trial. Also, there will be future capital raising activities in the years to come. Absolutely, you mentioned the more involved face to in phase three trials. What's on the FDA checklist to move you along that process? What do you have to prove to them? Yes. So the FDA's worried first and foremost about safety. So. We have a serious adverse events of any kind and the unexpected effects worried and face to in three especially about efficacy in addition to safety. So are we really better statistically you know in a very rigorous way? Are we better or equivalent to the very best treatment? There is now. Because even if you're just as good as the best treatment, but you're also safer that's progress. So those two things that worried about their always checking various metrics to make sure meeting boats requirements. You mentioned some competitors is the right word but you mentioned there's others out there but they haven't been able to make the protein stick. Are there others kind of pursuing the same line that you are you really the pioneer in this field? We look around and were surprised the there aren't that many people. We know of. Other groups that are modifying proteins directly to make them change their. So that, you can turn them into therapeutics the way we. Are. most of the larger companies are actually. Experts in hardware but not imprinting therapeutic. So we've had discussions with medtronic and Johnson Johnson at. Stryker big names. But I think the way they interpret the business opportunities from the perspective of stainless steel and inert implants, and that's much from biologic because it is different than their business model. So while we we think there's interest we think that perhaps maybe misunderstanding or misconceptions about the potential technology in some cases. People do like to stick with what they know until they can have it proven to them that going this way is the is the better way Just a couple minutes left in our conversation the way this is absolutely. Fascinating. What are you most proud of can ask us in two phases but what are you most proud of first of all from your time in uniform? I'm most proud of being able to have contributed. Various units that had been in. A meaningful way you know had A. Commander early on that said. If you forget everything else just remember tried to leave things better than how you found them. And I'd like to think that I did that each unit and the opportunity to do that and serves really something that I I remember fondly and I miss not being in service anymore. But it's it's just being able to go my legs. Serbs. Is, what I'm most proud of. What's IT GONNA mean to you I'm sure you've thought about this. The day that this advancement that you've been working on now for years and will for years to come actually changes and improves specific lives. Well that's. Kind of the holy grail. The full actualization of your ideas is probably the most satisfying thing live right if you can conceive something and it takes you a great effort in many years a lot of blood sweat and tears to make happen it happens then then you accomplished something contributes to mankind. So for me, it would be you know successful thing I wouldn't wanNA retire after that. My wife would let me but. I would I would be very happy. If, they're veterans watching or listening to this and thinking I want to be part of the process. I. Don't just WanNa be receiving this at the end of the line I want to be part of these trials Is there a way to sign up for that or getting contact with you? How does that work? We into kicked trials yet but in the future it. Once we established the trials they'll be registered on clinical trials dot gov. as you may know, and at that point, there would be some enrollment process if people wanted to participate can contact surface. Adeptly, any last words that you'd like to share with folks about what you're doing, what you hope to achieve and the lives we hope to change. Always hope for a brighter future and see what it is. You can do to bring that about. I was very sustained. Also, very good Finally, Louis, if folks want to keep up with what you're doing, you mentioned the clinical trials website any other websites, our email list that folks can sign up for or log onto to keep up with what you're doing. Well, the company website is there at ABC dot com and there's a new section there that people can read and also context session section if people. WanNa share. IDEAS FANTASTIC LOUIS. It's been an amazing conversation Nah not only for your service in Iraq but your vision for this in the first place and then putting in all the work to get closer and closer to becoming a reality is truly amazing. So thank you for the work you're doing thank you for your service to our country, your ongoing service to those who have served and we really appreciate your time with us today. Thank you. Think you. Absolutely, but we Alvarez is a veteran of the US army. He's a West Point graduate. He served Iraqis now the founder of thera- adaptive as they're getting closer and closer to providing regenerative materials to help warriors and others grow phone, eventually tissue and other parts of body. I'm Greg Columbus. This is veterans chronicles.

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How to Let Go of the Need to be Right

The Unstoppable Woman®

18:06 min | 3 months ago

How to Let Go of the Need to be Right

"Are you committed to moving through your problems or you committed to being. What are you going to invest in? Are you going to invest in the solution or are you going to invest in standing your ground? Episode of the unstoppable woman podcast. In today, we are talking about solving problems. Face it they're going to be problems in your life in your business. This is how it works expectation that things are smooth sailing all the time. Is Inappropriate is actually alive that you have convinced yourself of to keep you in the struggle. If you admit right now that, of course in life and business in your career in your personal life, whatever you want be talking about here, there are always going to be challenges I like to use the analogy about the ocean the waves they keep coming are you going to learn to surf? This is an episode on learning to surf. In fact, everything that I teach is about learning to surf. It's about moving with the tide not against it moving with life not against it. That is how You succeed if you were telling yourself that there should be no problems that there should be no challenges in my life that everything should be perfect. Perfect. You are blind to reality and you're setting yourself up for failure you're setting yourself to be crashed upon by the waves and not prepared. So instead let's prepare you. Let's get you surfing here. So you cannot need to be right and also want your problem solved that what is the theme of this podcast? You can't need to be right and also WANNA get your problem solved. So let me explain this if you need to be right. And you are committed to being right I e not being wrong. You won't go into problem solving mode. You'll go into defense you'll go into defending yourself. From others from what the meaning that the event is that you're giving it. Right. So let let me break this down. For example, let's say you have a larger goal in your business of. Freeing up your time so you can build a new channel of ink or freeing up your time. So you can focus on something specific in your business that only you can do right now at this juncture, and yet there are thousand and one other things in your business that you need to get done and you've hired an assistant and you've asked to him or her to do those things and. He or she is not actually doing them. Well, you can stand on ceremony and get all righteous about it. No one can do it as well as I can can't find good people. This isn't working they're not good enough. You're committed to be right here instead of solving the problem. What if you took personal responsibility instead you stepped out of making them wrong and stepped into addressing the issue. Is it a communication issue? Is it a systems issue? Are you not willing to trust people and let them make their own mistakes to learn? What is it about this situation that you're not allowing yourself to grow from and this is where? The subconscious comes in, we have all this subconscious programming that has you committed to a position that you can't be wrong and and let's take the same example you've hired someone they're not stepping up. You're blind to how you haven't communicated well or given them the right guidance or hire the right person for the job. All of that is out of sight out of mind you're not even willing to look at it because you're sub-conscious can is committed to keeping you right. Not Wrong. And if you saw that, maybe you hired the wrong person. or You haven't communicated well, you would have to admit that you hadn't done the right thing in this situation and are deep seated. Fear of making a mistake comes in because we do not want to be wrong. So we're righteous about us being right and then you go into blaming that person. What a waste of energy, what an absolute waste of energy but it is a double bind that most people find themselves in at some point until they unpack this and learn this lesson. It keeps people from scaling and from leveraging the power of having people work for you to increase your cash flow. So, this has really huge ramifications. So cause and effect here if you don't change this cause, which is a subconscious belief that you have to be. Right. In order not to be wrong, which means that you have to point the finger at someone else. In. Order not to be wrong that is a double bind. Now. Let me say this on the spiritual plane there is no right or wrong we are all worthy. That right were wrong. Binary expression. Is Very much of this three D. plane. Now, we worked on this three D. plane. We're human beings working in this this this fear of men manifestation if you will the world of facts. An- We have to recognize that in this world of effects. People make mistakes however if you choose to make people wrong. You are diving into an unsolvable problem. It saps your energy. It pulls you away from a more spiritual vision of yourself and our our directive in life is more in life we are trying to our directive is to grow and expand and become as close to our spiritual selves as we possibly can in this lifetime and on a spiritual plane everyone everything just is everyone is worthy. And so when you go into this right wrong finger pointing situation. You're moving away from that goal that directive. Against one of the laws of the universe which is the law more life. If you argue for the rightness of your position and you hunker down there you are by definition saying I don't want a solution. Because you are caught. In making someone else wrong. Rather than looking for solution. Now, why would we do this? While many people have been brought up to think that in order to solve a problem? They need to finger point and find blame that is not true. You do need to analyze the situation and understand where the mistake was made and what needs to be solved for. That's an Anna little coal process. It's without emotion it's without a value statement. You can address an issue without making someone else wrong. In fact, it's one of the keys to scaling up quickly. So notice if when you are frustrated in a situation where there's a mistake that's been made whether it's in your personal life or your professional life whether you're seeking to blame someone and instead just paused right there. Just pause right there and instead. Take a step back and ask yourself some very analytical questions. What's the problem that needs to be soft here is this is this a systems issue? Is this a communication issue? Is this a skills issue? What. Personal responsibility to I need to take here. What can I learn from this situation? What doing need to do differently moving forward? What is the specific ask that I need to make of this person? What is the order of the next series of events that I need to actions that I need to take in order to get the result that I want? None of that, the answers to those questions, none of that should be. I need to crucify this person. I need to blame this I. Need to punish this person I need to be indicative here none of that. Is a viable useful solution it saps you of energy. So the next level, which is a little deeper here is you must ask yourself what's at stake If you're in resistance to seeing any of this, you must ask yourself what's at stake with me being wrong in the situation because that's but you're fighting against okay. I'm not saying that you are wrong I would like to help you step out of that right wrong paradigm however by asking that question. Need to it, it unpacked the deep underbelly of what's driving you. So what's at stake with being wrong? You've got asked this what's really going to happen what is your big fear here? And here it's super important to bring truth to the situation in not sugarcoat things for yourself which often. See Nothing's nothing's at stake here people will say. That's not going. That's lying to yourself. That's not asking yourself to go deep and really see what your big fear is. That's pushing that away it's playing at the surface and that's not going to get you to the next level quickly. Okay. So when you say that out, loud, that's that's lying to yourself. When my clients say that to me, that's lying to me it's not a conscious intentional lie, but it is ally. Okay. And In some ways it's it's the truth from from the perspective of your conscious mind. Well, there is nothing at stake here. Everything would be fine. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. But your subconscious has a different story and that's what I'm asking you to see that subconscious programming. Your conscious mind will tell you one thing, but you need to go underneath the service in get vulnerable. Get go go into your own messy underbelly. You are actually committed to the problem you're not willing to go there. And you will continue to perpetuate that lie if you're not willing to see your subconscious story now here's the RUB. It's very often hard for someone to see their own subconscious story. This is called a blind spot. This is where someone comes in and can help you unpack that. That's my job. Okay. Until you start being able to see these things for yourself but I still as good as I am at this for myself, there is something that that I am blind to. That I need an outside Lens. To see it where. Are you committed to moving through your problems or you committed to being right? What are you going to invest in? Are you gonNA invest in the solution or you're going to invest in standing your ground? There's one way to be super successful and there's another way to be stuck in stopped. Okay. So the first thing required is that you get truthful which requires vulnerability and the ability to recognize what's happening in your you're feeling emotional subconscious state and that's Often, very different than your conscious interpretation of the situation or yourself and awareness is key here awareness as the missing link the tool from our toolkit. If you will that, we're going to use right now to bridge the gap between our conscious mind and our sub conscious mon.. How much awareness are you going to bring to your subconscious fears? Now when I say this, I don't mean that you should be. Constantly reinforcing those fears? No. I want you to bring a lens of light and awareness to them so that you can see them bring them to the light and so that they don't drive you unconsciously. and. This is so important in it's what most people avoid. So you're GONNA WANNA, go back and figure out what is that double bind that is keeping you from taking full personal responsibility for solving problems bring awareness to that. Seeing it what's at stake? What's your big fear and then address it? Consciously intellectually rationally logically question that is that really going to happen. Or. Do I just think it's going to happen in my just in a pattern of being stopped by it oftentimes, what comes up for people is that they don't have a model how to go about doing something because they've never done it before and the people in their environment have have never modeled it for them. They are surrounded by people who don't know how to have clear communication. Don't know how to have personal responsibility don't know how to set boundaries don't know how to time manage so. And by time manage I, mean mind manage because time management is mine management. This is all about managing yourself. And if you don't have a model, it's very hard to imagine it and see it for yourself. Some people can but few people. If, they were brought up in an environment that didn't model this few people can do this for themselves. So I often find myself modeling how to have a conversation, a difficult conversation for instance to my clients. And it always starts with the outcome. What is it that you truly want here I'm always looking at what's the outcome that someone wants and is there righteous behavior actually going to get them the outcome that they desire? I. I. Look to see how to help them. Understand this that it's not and then also look at what their biggest fears are in this conversation and what the lie is in that fear like if I say that are a is everything gonNA explode is, is it all going to fall apart and so you do have to look at cause and effect and see how things are going to play out. And then build a communication plan or system or action that you're going to take from that perspective. But the LAI is usually I'm going to lose something in my life love safety belonging at some fundamental level, and you have to realize that that's not the case if you solve the problem in a productive way, and if you have a mindset that's geared towards more life and success. So I hope that makes sense to you. please. Let me know if you have any questions, I would love to answer them for you. Just make a comment or reach out to us at. Hello at the unstoppable woman Dot Com. Okay that's a wrap for today. I'm a mirror Alvarez rocket out and be unstoppable. Thank you so much for joining us and for being a part of unstoppable woman movement I WANNA. Let you know that we've got a ton of free resources for you for Scaling Your Business at the unstoppable woman dot com slash free stuff. Please go ahead and check those out and we'd also love your help in getting the message out shared this podcast with all the unstoppable women in your life, your friends, your colleagues, Your Business besties please do that and if you're game, we'd Super Duper duper appreciate a review on Itunes as. Thanks so much indeed.

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Iridium's Pivotal Role In Our Past And ... Maybe Our Future?

Short Wave

12:37 min | 1 year ago

Iridium's Pivotal Role In Our Past And ... Maybe Our Future?

"You're listening to shortwave from NPR. Mattie Safai here. It's the One hundred fiftieth anniversary of the periodic table table of elements and we have been celebrating by highlighting some of our favorite elements. We did helium. We did aluminum and now Richard Harris longtime NPR. Science correspondent is going to tell us about his favorite dip iridium medium. I Know Ira on the periodic table. Atomic number seventy seven. It's a metal and that's everything you need to know. I guess that's it now. Wait wait wait wait. I have a few others. I should tell you first of all that. Iridium is not only one of the rarest elements on the Earth's crust. It gives us an important clue about solving a long standing mystery. One of my favorites about dinosaurs loved dinosaurs. What's Your Insulin Jurassic Park? Good Movie One of my favorites mine too. And I'm still waiting for the Sequel Cretaceous just park. Because that's when the big old dinosaurs went extinct at the end of the Cretaceous right and iridium has provided a surprising clue about how that went down. Komo extinction clue. Yes and Iridium doesn't just tell us about mass extinction. It might just possibly play a role in preventing another potential global catastrophe. Castrophe when we are suffering today okay. That's a little darker than I expected to go today but okay here we go. Let's go well darker than extinction of dinosaurs so today the show look at Aradio dinosaurs extinction. Humanity's survival and more. What else could you want from an Kosovo Richard Richard? We're talking about iridium as show. What does this element tell us about dinosaurs? and how they went extinct. We're going to go back. Tens of millions of years ago to start. Yeah well we start and say like nineteen eighty. That's what I said Richard. I said one thousand nine hundred nineteen eighty okay. Well that's actually. When an academic paper gets published by a group led by a father and son team from the a University of California at Berkeley Louis Alvarez the father of physicist and by the way Nobel Prize winner and his son Walter Alvarez? WHO's a geologist and they? We're interested in a specific period of time. In Earth's history it was a transition between two geologic periods the Cretaceous period and the Paleocene good ones too good period. Yeah so dinosaurs still roamed the earth during the Cretaceous period. But after that you don't find any of these dino bones except in our current dinosaurs birds. You're you know what I mean. I I do know what you mean. Yeah thinking of dinosaurs. Birds Birds Dinosaurs. Same thing it's sad. It's true so at any rate but the Alvarez's weren't actually trying to answer that big. Why did the dinosaurs go extinct? Mystery that point Walter and Louis Alvarez. We're trying to answer. Just one part of that riddle which is how quickly that transition between the two periods took place so walter trump off to Italy where there are rock outcrops that were laid down his sediment back at the time of that transition. Okay seems like a good idea. Why look at those rocks knocks well to get the back story? I talked to another Berkeley scientists. My name is Paul Renae. And I'm the director of the Berkeley Ju- Chronology Center any said the secret to figuring Out How fast. That transition happened involved measuring dust from outer space. That's constantly raining down on earth. Tiny amounts Louis Alvarez Walter's father her biggest physicist thought. Well you know we can determine that we can. We can make some reasonable assumptions about how much dust is coming in from from extraterrestrial sources. Okay extraterrestrial we're talking stuff from outside Earth or the atmosphere in Richard. Can I just say the fact that somebody thought thought about measuring cosmic dust to figure out the passage of time sixty million years ago is objectively awesome. It is and when you think about the dust coming from asteroids colliding with each other. It's even cooler and they were looking for particular stuff and In particular if we look at an element. That's rare on on earth but common in meteors in an element. That's rare on earth but common in asteroids Guess what we're talking about Matty I'm going to take out style and I'm GonNa say radium. Guess Excellent guests. Thank you are we. But what's the role of the dust here right well. Louis was operating unreasonable unreasonable assumption. which is that? This dust from meteors rains down on the earth. More or less constant rate. It's dust of course enriched with iridium. So I figured if they could measure is your how much iridium had built up in. This transitional layer. They would be able to tell. How long taken to accumulate? So I'm thinking sort of figuring out how much snow fell over a period of the time. If you know the rate at falls and how much is on the ground except this is tens of millions of years ago Roger Dodger tens of millions of years ago and the iridium doesn't Milton the sunlight so it sticks sticks around you can still see at sixty five or sixty six years later so so it didn't rate when they ran those calculations with the Alvarez's found was stunning. The results were so so extreme. That just just a the passage of a long time would not really explain this. It was many times greater than the amount amount of radium in this layer than expected just from this gradual accumulation so the conclusion they drew was that there had been some huge pulse of extraterrestrial Oriole's Joe Matter and the obvious conclusion that they quickly came to was that it was a large impact a large impact. We're talking to you asteroid did we are an asteroid They think the asteroid smashes into the earth destroying so much of life on earth and throwing up an enormous muscle mass of dust into the atmosphere. The dust itself caused mass extinctions but it also had iridium in it and it spread around the Earth so they realized this collision is a big one and and the conditions that resulted you know reasonably enough they thought they theorized killed off. These won't bring dinosaurs. You know what you're nobody ever thinks about that other life. I feel like it's always dinosaurs. Dinosaurs dinosaurs. I know you don't get little plastic models of marine for him. And if we're talking to you as I mentioned in this paper was published back in one thousand nine hundred eighty and back then. A catastrophic end seemed to mini scientists pretty far fetched because evolution takes place over millions of years so so a lot of scientists were expecting to see gradual changes. and and Paul Rennie says when the Alvarez has proposed this meteor theory created quite a stir in the community it did. Yeah I mean. It was originally not widely accepted but acceptance sort of came in waves and the biggest confirmation team win in the early nineties. There was the discovery of the crater on the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A study published in. Today's issue of Science magazine appears to add weight to a theory that a giant media or struck the earth. Sixty five million years ago and what is now Mexico many scientists. This is the Intro to my story that aired in NPR back in Nineteen ninety-two. Some scientists. See this as evidence that helps prove their theory that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a giant asteroid or comet but as NPR NPR science correspondent Richard Harris reports the theories baby Richard Harris Science reporter even covering this story for a bit. I have indeed actually packs into the early nineteen eighties but that no dinosaur drug please and a really big asteroid could scatter iridium dust. Globally the question was. Where's the crater that a huge asteroid like that would make take a look and listen to all that? Join Your Voice you know I know well what what can be more fun than dead dinosaurs. Really Okay So. This study found the point of impact for the giant asteroid. Yes it was a crater one hundred ten miles across called Jiffy Lube and it was created by this asteroid that had a tremendous amount of explosive power. As you can. Well imagine sure so. When these geologist tested the age of the materials from the crater it turned out to date very closely to the mass extinction by the way? Dating methods. have been recalibrated calibrated since that paper. So scientists now say that catastrophe happened. Sixty six million years ago. Not Sixty five million. What's a million years among friends? Yeah yeah yeah absolutely so Joe. Yeah but the point is of course the impact and the dinosaurs demise lineup perfectly and for that nineteen ninety-two story. I talked to Carl Swisher at the Institute of Human Origins which at the time was in Berkeley Berkeley Berkeley Berkeley no even much larger when we went across the street to the UC. Berkeley and told Walter Alvarez the ages we're getting I think he was quite excited because he spent What the last Ten fifteen years trying to find a crater of each throughout the World Team Alvarez for the win absolutely yes for the most part. There's a lot of evidence but there will always be some skeptics in the scientific community. And you know it's also important maybe to mention that at the same time about the same time there was a whole lot of volcanic activity we also on the earth. So there's always people thinking one two punch. Maybe you're saying definitely came. But was it the absolute Khuda Gra for all these dinosaurs. That's still that's still debated. Yeah astroid touch volcanoes low bit of mix maybe so okay Richard Radium helped us figure out our dinosaur extinction mystery. You mentioned earlier that it could also help us potentially prevent the next global catastrophe. We're not talking another asteroid here. No we have Bruce Willis For Asteroids if you remember the action movie Armageddon No no no actually. We're talking about climate change climate change. How does a radium help? Well what we really need to do to. Combat climate change is to have clean fuel. That's cheaper than fossil fuels. If we could get such a thing in other words would quickly switch to the cheaper fuel and we'd stop dumping all that carbon dioxide said in the atmosphere. I don't know about quickly but sure. That's the dream. Richard Yeah Fair enough. So what's the link between clean fuels radium. Well we really liked to capture energy. She from sunlight and turn that into liquid fuels now. Plants figured this out long before the dinosaurs were even around. Tho- sent this says that's right and the first step in this process is to split a water molecule. And the problem is this is not so easy to do in the lab what chemist need is a catalyst so the chemicals that that speed up chemical reactions out there getting stuff done. You got it and I'm guessing you can see where I'm going with this. A radium is a good catalyst. It is a great catalyst for this purpose and imagine turning sunlight into hydrogen fuel or liquid fuel. You could put into an airplane. Of course there's one eighty problem with the scenario. Iridium you will recall. Aw is one of the rarest elements on Earth's crust because of his scarcity's one of the most expensive metals as well. So he does complicate our Laura Research so is the Mother Nature through that us. That's Guanghui Wing. He's a chemistry professor at Boston College. And he's trying to develop an iridium catalyst to make fuel out of sunlight and he's trying to get around this issue of how little of it. We have our ideas that we wanted to utilize this catheters to his maximum. That is we wanted Khimik every atom conce and since iridium is so rare he wants to make sure every single atom in a catalyst is actually at work speeding up reactions even so oh it's probably a stretch to think about building industry around iridium right so he and his colleagues are also hoping that once they understand how iridium does this magic they can find something else that will work as a catalyst as well or nearly as well and ideally something. That's abundant on the earth. So iridium or something like it could potentially help save the day. That's Richard. You could cover it for another twenty five years. Well I will probably be sitting on my couch but I hope I will be listening to you. Episode Six thousand two hundred and twelve. Oh On shortwave. If I know you the math and right on that math is pretty close. I took twelve days off per year. Figured out WHO. It wasn't a random number. This episode was produced by Rebecca Ramirez edited. Veit lay shout out to Daniel Shchukin and Stacey Abbott for their engineering help. The facts of this episode were checked by Emily. Quam this has been shortwave from NPR. See You tomorrow. Primer having trouble with this sentence senator. Who wrote this is where I yelled? Who wrote I know? It's fine this way I probably wrote. I probably wrote it five hundred fire. You are a blooper. You are a human blooper. I didn't mean that I mean that was hard.

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A Portrait Of: Author Julia Alvarez

Latino USA

17:14 min | 1 year ago

A Portrait Of: Author Julia Alvarez

"This message comes from NPR sponsor xfinity. Some things are slow like a snail races other things are fast like Xfinity X. by get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make WIFI simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply who who she's not hearing me. Hello Julia all Maria. WOM Komo head what a long time this has been from NPR and Fukuda Media. It's Latino USA I'm mighty Anal Hosa and today the portrait of author Julia Alvarez Julia Alvarez is an acclaimed Dominican American writer. She received the put a bill pre award and in two thousand fourteen President Obama presented her with a National Medal of arts. We never take for granted. The flash of insight that comes from watching a great documentary or reading a great memoir or novel to most recognized novels were published in the nineteen ninety s how the Garcia girls lost their accents and in the time of the butterflies is how the Garcia girls lost their accents is a personal coming of age story based on Hulu and her sisters experienced emigrating from the Dominican Republic to the the US her next major work was in the time of the butterflies a work of historical fiction who became fascinated with the meetable sisters all of whom were young Dominican women who attempted to overthrow the dictator at the time Rafael Trujillo they went by the codename of less muddy process were the butterflies the book she wrote based on their lives would later be turned into a film starring some High Eq and Mark Anthony Best Ramos say and do you know the to hear has a secret campaign to make our population's wider than it is. Hold on. I have made a list with the people who have disappeared last month. We have more than three hundred names on it when he to make copies and distribute then so people know what he is doing. Twenty five years has passed since the the time the butterflies was published but many themes from the novel resonate today who has worked goes deep into understanding the intersection between activism activism womanhood and a sense of belonging. I sat down to speak with Julia about the lasting legacy of her work and whether there we are still in the time of butterflies Julia Alvarez Welcome back to Dino USA well. It's great to be here when you wrote your big big hits. How the Garcia girls lost their accent. In the time of the butterflies. That success came when you were already in middle age. You had been writing for about twenty years before that well my first novel. Garcia girls didn't get published till I was forty one. If we look at things now were impatient and things seemed to go so slowly but I've seen quite a development when I started writing people that wrote about families and communities like the ones I was writing about that was considered sociology. I mean not part of American literature. The whole big wave of multicultural literature African American literature. Being part of the mainstream was not something that was happening back then so it was many years of just keeping to that routine believing in my calling loving it so there was nothing else. It's not like I could do something else because this is what I wanted to do and loved doing so it was it was quite discouraging. Thank goodness I found other writers likes Sandra Cisneros McCarthy Joe the knees Jarvis and we kept riding which is really the revenge. You know you just keep doing it. I grew up as a Mexican immigrant in the United States and so I never felt like writing in English could be my thing because it wasn't my first language so I'm fascinated by the fact that you at such a young age knew that for you. It was about the written word that you understood that that's that's where you wanted to be actually mighty. I probably was more like you than than you know. I would not have been a writer had we stayed in the Dr. I was non on a reader didn't like school flunked every grade through fifth grade to go to summer schools in the Dominican Republic and when we came to this country I was his ten and I had to learn English intentionally so I came into English as a ten year old. You wouldn't have foretold that I I was going to be a writer but I had a wonderful teacher. She could see that I did what I did. Love was stories and the oral storytelling of my childhood back home in the Dr as she could see that as she sort of. I don't know how she did it. She kind of coaxed me into believing the books could be interesting because I didn't have much access to books. It was textbooks official censored literature in the D. R. So was really coming to the United States having access us to public libraries having a teacher that encouraged me to write down my little stories about the DR in growing up there which was wonderful because I was so homesick. It was a way in which I could recover what have been lost so that's really when I became a writer later. If I recall correctly Julia I think writing Garcia girls also raised a lot of issues for you because with the success meant that the you know you're writing was very public and I I think within your family some things came up my right. W- oh some things some things came up in a big way. Oh I thought Oh while I've made my puppy Emami really proud. You know I just the daughter. That was the big troublemaker. That couldn't seem to pass a grade. Finally they're going to say she made up to serve. I won't you know she's she's proven herself you. She was right. She's a writer and instead. It was just all my goodness and they were terrified. By you know this daughter that was speaking out in getting public attention. Do you know the Garcia girls were coming of age in the sixties and and you know they knew all about boyfriends boyfriends and overnight with boyfriends and smoking pot and you know lying to parents about where they were going to be on a specific weekend and with whom all the things that young people were going through but I think what I came to understand is first of all my parents Ernst were really the products of a dictatorship where you did not put stuff out there publicly you could get it killed for it and you know you can get rid of the dictator but the dictator that survives in your head is there and I think actually they were suffering from trauma of what they have been through and when you're part of a marginal group and you feel like you're already already people are already saying that you're all rapists and drug addicts and go back to where you came from. You WanNa put as a community. Your best foot put forward. You know you don't want your dirty laundry to be out. There ain't Melia Anthrax looney that that's one thing but out there you know you have to put on the Pollyanna best foot forward and what you're doing to your own community then is your limiting your own humanity. You're cutting back your oppressing your own expressive nece as a community so how the Garcia girls lost their accents cents is really this very personal. Kind of memoir is coming of age story. It's all about you your family your mom your sisters and then you take this turn to doing this piece of historical fiction based on the lives of these three sisters there so famous in the Dominican Republic and around the world. They're are known as the meteorologist sisters. This is really a major piece of historical fiction in novel form. So what made you WANNA tackle their story very next. Well you know I was obsessed with their story. Because in some ways there were some eerie similarities he's to my own family. We were four girls in my family and they were four girls. They fought for freedom. They were killed three months after after we arrived but only one survived and of course poppy talk to us about what happened because he knew them and so. I always felt like they were the shadow battle sisters the ones that paid the price for us to be free and also you know to realize that the storyteller arrives to tell the story. I was the second oldest and I'm the second oldest and I was the storyteller in the family so I felt almost eerie like this is a story AAC meant for me to write down and I thought it was going to write a history or biography of their lives but then the more I researched them. The more I became interested interested in their personalities and how they have become politicized to me. A novel is a true story but it's the truth according to character sure as opposed to facts and information you know the reporting of what exactly happened you enter the story to the personality so the characters you know it was for me. I think a way to understand my parents generation and what had happened. I was living with the repercussions of that with my parents fears and with a country that have been traumatized by the dictatorship so writing hiding it politicized me. I think and helped me to understand the history of where I come from. It's almost unbelievable that it's been twenty five years since the time of the butterfly was published and I find myself thinking talking about how long I've been working long. I've known you and kind of this whole notion of getting older and you know in fact. You're someone who thinks a lot very it deeply about the human condition so talk to me about what it's been like for you to get older when they said in the time of the butterflies flies was going to be twenty five years old. I was shocked because I know I'm getting all but the books are getting old too. I'm aware that I'm slowed down. He used to be like that. I could spend most of the day rioting and then rider a speech and then go talk to a class. You know just seemed like I had so so much energy. I don't have it anymore. I move slower and I think it's also because now I'm more thoughtful about what I do and my I feeling is just that before I go. I just want every drop squeezed from me. I when death comes for me. I don't want there to be something I saved top. You know I feel like it's also a time of listening and encouraging the young people somebody said on in my front row and clapped when when I was a young person and read and read something and and made me feel heard and seen and now it's in a sense our time time to do that to step aside sometimes graciously that it hasn't doesn't have to be that the story comes only from me or through me that it it's also coming beautifully and powerfully from these younger riders who are out there and need our encouragement when I was thinking about in the time of the butterflies is and it was a book that you know twenty five years ago it really held gop Latina's Latin American women as kind of these forces forces of nature. 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Canelo Goes to Court

SI Boxing with Chris Mannix

58:46 min | 2 months ago

Canelo Goes to Court

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The biggest star in boxing he is looking to get out of his contract with promoter get out of his contract with the network signed with just back two years ago and become a free agent. Michael McCann the legal analyst for sport ago he joins me to break down this from all angles and project out a little bit with the future and the outcome. This lawsuit is four. Canelo Alvarez Little Bit later on Sergio. Mora performer junior, middleweight champion, my broadcast partner over at zone. He joins me to talk about Canelo we get into the back and forth between Hannie and Gary Russell Taffy Molo Pez. He signed his fight to face low Michenko. How is that going to play out that much more with Sergio Mora as always best way to support this podcast dead over to apple podcasts. Post comment leave a rating. It's simple. It's easy. It's free. It's the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it onto my conversation with Michael McCann. Art Let's jump right in Michael. McKay is here my former colleague over at sports illustrated now the legal analyst and senior sports legal reporter over at Sport Akot, he's also as good as it gets at explaining complicated lawsuits to simpleton like me. Mike. Thanks for joining me man you gotTa Chris and you're no simpleton. I can assure you that well, when it comes to reading long complaints I, certainly get a little glassy eyed throughout all of its you can. Boil this down forming little bit. So just to set the table on Tuesday a lawyer for Kamilo Alvarez. Filed. A twenty four page complaint in Federal Court over Los Angeles. Alvarez lawsuit includes accusations of breach of contract intentional interference with contract negligent interference with a contract fraud and breach of fiduciary duty. He is seeking at least two hundred, eighty millions of damages, which would effectively be what is left of the eleven fights contract. He signed with zone in two thousand eighteen. He's also asked to be free of any contractual obligations with his promoter golden boy and with zone in a statement Canelo, set I'm the pound for pound number one, the world I'm not scared of any opponent, the ring and I'm not going to. Let the failures of my broadcaster or promoters keep me out of the ring I filed the lawsuits like get back to boxing and give my fans the show that they deserve. So Mike. I guess. We'll start here just kind of your ten thousand foot view of this loss who you're sort of immediate takeaways from reading this and digesting it. Sure. So one important thing that I think has to be emphasized as we have not seen the actual contract that this is a breach of contract lawsuit the contract itself is not publicly available. It wasn't included as an exhibit in the complaint so that that sort of. The big the big piece of information that will likely instruct how successful this lawsuit is is missing from our ability to assess what's going on site. So with that caveat, when I look at this lawsuit, it is certainly Symbolic of the times we're in where this is a professional athlete who believes that he is being deprived of opportunities to fight in ways that he contends would be safe. That's not unique to him. Of course, other athletes have raised that point. And then on the other side, there's a broadcaster promoter that seemed to hold different views about what they're obligated to do under the contract, and there's disagreement about how to proceed with fights where there wouldn't be live audiences. Revenues would have to be restructured. There's a lot of uncertainty so. There's this is obviously a story that has a history to it, but the contemporary part of it to me is pretty revealing that this is occurring during the pandemic where there's disagreement about what is contractually required and they're definitely defenses that will be raised. Against these clams. With reference to the contracts, there are multiple contracts at play. Here can Nello has one contract with golden boy golden boy has one contract with zone. So we're talking about two unique contracts that. That are in place here I mean with litigation like this Mike, will the CON will the contract have to be exposed? We'll. We'll there have to be transparency here in this process. Yeah the they'll have to be exposed the weather the public has to see them is a separate consideration. So at some point, the contracts have to be. Part of the litigation because clearly the court can't proceed in assessing whether who side is correct. If the the court can't see the actual contract and as you mentioned, there are multiple contracts and who knows what emails have been sent and other messages that might have a bearing on this contract. So. Absolutely Chris the contracts have to become part of litigation, but they could be filed under seal. The parties might seek to keep the contracts out of public. Certainly, the media would be interested in looking at these contracts, not only for this case, but just in general given the sort of historical magnitude of a three, hundred, sixty, five, million, dollar deal the contract itself would be newsworthy. So they will have to be part of litigation unless they reach a settlement whether we get to see them is a separate consideration. Are you able to? In, your position as an experienced legal analyst I are you able to? Assess the strength of this lawsuit at all without seeing the contracts or I guess the question is there any way to? Ascertain. How strong Canales Ellos case is without knowing what's in those contracts? It's definitely difficult to to to sort of project the likelihood of success without actually being able to see the contracts week. What we can do in lieu of that is look at the legal arguments how they're crafted and project the likely defenses, and here the defenses could include forced Missouri there might be language in the contract that provides a way out of paying him given the pandemic that we're in it's also possible. There could be clauses in the contract that require ration- before they can go to court. It's also not clear that California is the right forum for this case sometimes, contracts contain forum selection clauses so. Even beyond that, there are other arguments that can be raised. There's impossibility there's practice in practicability. Excuse me. So you you're right Chris it's very hard to assess the likelihood of success without seeing the specific contract and also in fairness. To the defendants to look to see what their arguments are because when they answer the complaint, they're going to say all sorts of things that are included in the complaint. They're likely going to portray Alvarez as breaching the contract and somehow that he has not lived up to the terms of or these MIS MIS portraying what's in the contract. When you read that complaints and look at the the charges that Alvarez is is assessing to disown anti golden boy do I need them stick out to you specifically the W-, David raise your eyebrows as more interesting than others. I think they're all related to the contracts. Breach argument that that that he is in the right that he's been unlawfully denied opportunities to fight and to be paid. What to me will be interesting to see is how the arguments related to interference a specifically interference with perspective economic relations that he is being deprived of chances to monetize value, and if it's true. As the complaint suggests that there were discussions about having a fight on the top of a skyscraper and other other things. One is that that's interesting to see that they were trying to be creative. Coming up with alternatives to how to have about in the absence of a live audience and in a bubble environment. To me that's GONNA. Be Interesting to see how flexible each side was and I think that goes to the interference arguments. That is he really being denied a chance and he of course, as you mentioned, seeks a court order that would allow him to negotiate with others I, think that relates to that as well. I. Do you know from my own reporting I know that they were looking at unique Venues or opportunities during this pandemic whether it was a skyscraper or I had heard Alcatraz, you know whether it's fighting on. Aircraft carrier in the San Diego area, they were trying all sorts of different things. So they definitely were trying to think outside the box over the last couple of months I'm interested in your your view though Mike of the eighth cow that fraud concealments where. It seems to argue that Kello was intentionally misled on the terms of the golden golden boys deal with zone specifically. Is bothering comes down to local often, and this really is what this boils down to for a lot of people involved. The it seems like you can tell me if I'm wrong. Seems like this lawsuits contending the golden boy. Didn't disclose that. They allegedly made promises to zone that weren't necessarily spelled out in Canellas deal with golden boy what what did you make of the fraud part of all this? Yes. So fraud is a hard argument to make a case is just a difficult, the standards for establishing fraud especially here where there are sophisticated business actors. Alvarez obviously has an agent multiple multiple representatives. So for him to argue that he was misled, the counter argument is going to be will what what were your advisers doing? Were they asking the right questions? There is an awareness that there are other contracts and other business relationships going on that impacted his deal so. were his own people doing the right due diligence that could come up as well so I. You know perhaps he was misled just think. Is Not sort of a consumer in a store right? I mean, this is someone that's pretty sophisticated as a business actor. If he was misled, what were his agents doing, you know why didn't they pick up on potential discrepancies and why didn't they demand disclosure and it's possible that golden boy is going to say look we told them everything. You know we we we have done everything we can. We've shared everything we need to do. A We've adhered to the contract where we weren't expected to provide more information. We answered all questions I mean there's there's a lot of ways in which this can turn. If if golden boy either implied or outright has in the contract that with zone, that Canelo will fight Gennady Galkin and if they don't have that in the contract that they have with Kamilo I, mean, how does that resolve itself? I mean if if let's just assume that as the hypothetical right that that in the contract with disown golden boy promises in some way shape or form to deliver Cannella often. In the contract with Kamilo, it doesn't spell that out. I mean, how does how does that resolve itself legally to me? Nello is in the right if that's if that's the hypothetical is what the facts are dissolved and goldenvoice should sue each other over that and Cannella wouldn't be obligated to do something that isn't in his contract if he if there is no actual requirement in any contract that he signed. That he has to do a certain thing. And Zoning golden boy are disagreeing about whether he has to in a way he it's not really up to him because he is obligated to do something unless he's really obligated to do it. A and I and I would hope that does own golden boy aren't sort of making promises to each other. That are about are really in that context about a third party Canelo because they need to get him to agree to do something contractually before he's obligated to do it. As you look at this as you sort of digest this situation Mike, I mean, how unusual is it? In your from your perspective to see multiple contracts one between fighter and promote or another between promoter network where where this possibility even exist that there could be conflicting language between all three parties. Yeah. I think this is pretty unique and part of it of course, reflects the sport that boxing structure different differently especially at that level where the promoter and the broadcaster are integral and they really do. Their own contracting is you know you know in the NBA we wouldn't see this issue with the player, right? Right. Right. So so the the fact that this is in a team based sport, the fact that there is no collective bargaining agreement in fact that there's no media agreement between the Union and the League you know the fact pattern here it is structured so differently from a team based sport. And of course, the fact that he's the best or one of the best. Around, puts him in a position where he's going to sign multiple contracts. Hypothetical we were discussing if you know like disowns perspective from what I understand is that they have approval rights over Cannella opponents. It doesn't seem like from reading that that lawsuit that Kello believes that I mean this seems like once again, we're an area of of discrepancy between what golden boy negotiated with zone then golden boy turned around and negotiated with. Canal. Is this a big problem for golden boy in this if they're if they're writing one contract one way and another one, another I mean is that Is that problematic for them or is this just a case where zone should have done their homework more and? Basically had it spelled out that this flight would happen it Well I think in that scenario does. It sort of one of these situations where Alvarez is the third party, right? He is the party that's not part of a contractual agreement over who decides when and where he's GonNa fight. To me, I have to think that there's more to the story than that that maybe their emails that are sent because Alvarez and his representatives I I'm guessing are aware of that potential discrepancy and I would think that they would have. Tried to address it at some point and and maybe they did. But it certainly a strange scenario where unless he's wanted to do something. It's hard to obligate them to do something. Right. So you know two parties that are talking about the third person you gotta bring the third person in there. Yeah I thought it was very interesting that a spokesman for Golden Boy Stephan Friedman came out and said effectively no one ever promised. Kella versus Goliath skin that that. That's a pretty strong statement like when I read that. You know better. Hope there's not emails. There's not some kind of correspondence right? Because if there are even if just hints that this is going to happen that that would be problematic for them Oh yeah. Unless the contract says in so many words. This is the term of our deal and we exclude all other communications. It might have that sometimes that's called a merger clause that in the absence of that, those emails could be pretty significant if there if they were sent and this is why this case could turn a lot more interesting fast when that's super fast but after there's an answer to the complaint. Will See a motion to dismiss and if it gets passed that we're looking at discovery and if we get into discovery There will be emails there will be text messages that could share a lot of light on what was said about his obligations and it could put some people in a tough spot if they were making promises that they weren't authorized to me. So, just to put a button on the the fraud portable this you look at that and I'm just recalling what you just said there you look at as being difficult to prove is that fair to say that that's a challenge to to prove I think it's a challenge if the relationship is entirely contractual. Other pieces to the story with emails or texts. Other documents, other correspondences, it gets a little fuzzier. It's hard in a case like this because we haven't seen the evidence, we haven't even seen the contracts so it's it's always difficult to project, but in general, that's a hard claim to bring. I I can say without any evidence I. I can say I. Just don't believe people in boxing are smart enough not to have text messages emails. I just don't I don't believe it. I think there's there's gotta be some stuff flying around there that sheds more light on on this situation what was promised to when when you read the the damage is part of this, the two, hundred, eighty million, which says basically the rest of his contract and being free from. Disown and from golden boy what was your reaction to that I mean is that that's a sizable amount of money to ask for for. Effectively. Not earning it not going out and getting what was your reaction to that? There the lawyers they're going to ask for the moon and they're going to try to get it I think it would be probably difficult to establish that level of numbers and it's also predicated on who lost a pera lost endorsements. There's a lot to it. If it ever got to the stage where that number became examined in a trial, there would be expert witnesses that would appear that would try to. Assess how accurate that is. It's it's certainly a huge number, and as you note, if he can go out and do other fights. He would sort of cover a lot of that expense with with new fights that would would take the place of those that he would have fought under the contract. So. It's a huge number on some level. At this point it's sort of. It's not necessarily that relevant because we're so far away in the litigation before that became a key factor does however. I think this is where it might matter. That may be their asking price for settlement right that. And I assume at the end of the day, this case probably settles this is. It's a complex contractual arrangement where it's really at the end of the day about money and the the parties get together work out a solution they haven't yet but they could, and that's where that number becomes more meaningful because it suggests what is asking prices. Let. Let's talk about a potential settlement for a second because in this is where I'm going to sound really stupid the my understanding is that. Absent a lawsuit disown can't negotiate directly with Canal they negotiate with golden boy who negotiates with Cannella why there are two contracts to begin with with Canelo suing. Zone. Does that allow them to negotiate with Cannella directly now I mean does it take an I'll throw a phrase out there that I've heard but I'm not sure you can articulate better but the idea of tortoise interfere it's like does that take take that off the table It could although in in reality once there's a demand letter sent normally the parties can begin to negotiate because this lawsuit wasn't the for the filing of the complaint wasn't the first step is the first step that we saw. But prior to this, there would have been a demand letter set by Alvarez's attorneys to zone two golden boy maybe others for all we know and the letter would have said. We have these grievances we're, GONNA, file a lawsuit. Let's talk. So they probably have already had some degree of communication unless unless the party said, we're not going to settle this, which is a possibility too. So they could likely negotiated at that point, but certainly wants the cases filed they can negotiate. A more direct way though I think they could have done that before as well. Okay. Last question for you. You know the I think people in boxing are familiar with boxing lawsuits. Remember like Mikey Garcia was probably six seven years ago. Now, where he was trying to get out of his contract with top rank, it was a protracted legal battle that cost mighty Garcia Years Office career. If this plays out in court and I think I'm actually with you Mike I think settlement is the more likely outcome with all this. But if there isn't a settlement and this becomes a legal battle, how protracted? Could it be I, mean how in California? How long does stuff like this? In Federal Court, I guess how long's IT play out? Could be a while. It's a federal case. Federal cases tend to take longer. It's also a federal case. It's a civil case in the middle of pandemic and a number of hearings have been push-back because of the pandemic courts are really trying to marshal their resources in a way that focuses on criminal matters because of obviously they're more important because somebody can go to prison. So so there's certainly the possibility of this could last months. It's also potentially years because we're talking about lit against that are wealthy and they have the money to hire lawyers that could mitigate for awhile that could lead to an appeal if this ever got to an actual jury trial, the decision there could be an appeal. This is. Again. It's too early to tell, but if we played out in a way that. Involves the everyone's sort of gearing up for a long battle? This could be a multi year battle is that likely? No, but it could. We are literally talking about millionaires and billionaires so there is money behind. The lawyers involved I think everybody in boxing hopes it. It doesn't last long and I don't think and you can see it from Canal statement like I don't believe he wants this to drag out I. think everybody I think he wants to get back in the ring and is looking for. The right opportunity to to do it this way, but I mean is that like just to finish off I mean is. Seeing those. Are Not us seeing those contracts but a judge or whomever seeing those contracts that's probably going to illuminate a lot of things quickly right? We'll. We'll have some answers wants somebody sees it would see those car would it be a judge? I would see those contracts that could be able to look at these things through. So the judge would see the contracts and they would be part of a future pleading. Whether we we the public to see them would would hinge on whether or not they're filed under seal and whether the judge allows them to be filed under seal but certainly, the court would see them at throughout the process. The court will likely urge them to have settlement talks because the the judge will say. At the end of the day, you're arguing about money, there's probably some sort of fixed that makes everyone more or less. Okay with the outcome. But whether the judge Ovalles lines on which side has a stronger argument, some judges or more direct about than others. But the lawyers might get a sense of that. If they have a hearing in court or on Zuma nowadays, we'd say on zoom. Because the judge might signal. which way he or she is leaning? When you when you see that lawsuit is it sounds like Canales looking to get his hands on all the like. Are they trying to get to get all the paperwork for themselves? Is that part of all this? Awesome. Although I have to think they have some of these documents but. It could be one of ation. More information. I think it's just about like you said, he wants to fight. He feels like he's losing money. He's frustrated with the fact that he has to now go through to two different entities whose interests are not necessarily perfectly aligned and he wants to get back out there and he'd probably use a lawsuit as the best way to do it I I mean I can't get inside his head but I'm sure his lawyers have told him this will probably end in a settlement. And we're interested in getting you back into the ring as soon as possible. Yeah, I think if if nothing else it breaks A. or at least kind of shops things in one direction and hopefully leads to to a settlement with part of the masses that want to see can go back in the ring as soon as possible as well. Michael always appreciate your time meant check out Mike's piece on this topic over at sport ago. 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It was the two best episodes of Jazz, I think we had. A Wonderful Todd Grisham had a great time on the show. His Cup is always half full unlike yours that's Ninety I try keep it real Sergio I tried to. Be As honest with my audience as possible. So. I can't just opt bright eyed nop domestic at all times. please. Don't ever say the word keeping it real. Okay. All right. Sergio want to jump in with this Canelo Alvarez situation and we don't have to get too deep into the weeds on it earlier in the show, I, talked to Michael McCann whose legal analyst about the lawsuit itself as a as a fighter I wanna get your take on this I? Mean you know you've broadcast Canellas last three fights. You know what it feels like to kind of be looking around wondering why deal can't get done Davos fight get made. What was your reaction to seeing this lawsuit filed by Canelo Alvarez. Man It was. It was painful because we all want that fight to to to happen. September you know May in September huge holidays for for not only boxing but especially Mexican Mexican boxers and Mexican independence mile of the two biggest dates. So when there's no boxing was dates especially when there's quarantine in pandemic going on. It just feels like a miserable year piling on on each other. So just you know business in boxing, you know it's show business mannix there's a show, there's a business. Those. Conflict and we were getting when you cla canal the pound for pound number one in the world. Promised a certain amount of money. And there's a pandemic that hits the everyone's pockets gets hit. There's no fans in the stands. There's no way for for a promoters to make money. No merchandise, the sale, just horrible man. So no one knows how to react to certain situations. So I'm sure there's a miscommunication between Canelo is promoting golden boy in old boy with the deal with zone. So it's just a it's just a tragedy it's happening, but it's a miscommunication on everyone's forward. Yeah. Let me get your take on this because you're right. The pandemic has changed things if we were not in the middle of this pandemic, we would have had galop skin fight Camille Zara Meta last spring we would have had cannella against Billy Joe Saunders, and if they came out of that, we were been you and I- preparing to call Canelo versus Goliath three I mean that was pretty much set in stone, but you know part of the problem has been the pandemic but you know part of it now is that we haven't seen Cannella goffin three yet and last fall can Nilo could have accepted a third fight with Golovin, you remember those negotiations I mean. Everything fell apart over the summer Cannella lost his Mexican Independence Day date. They had to fight Sergei Kovalev in November and canals refusal to fight Gennady Google off for personal reasons, I think that's contributed to all this. I mean all traces back to that for me, Sergio that Canelo. Because he doesn't like an article often and he doesn't like some of the things go off, can said to him in about him specifically when it came to the positive drug test that he didn't want to fight him last last September and and I think when we Look back at the story of this mess. That's part of it. I mean I think Canelo has some. Responsibility, but I think that that contributed to where we all right now the Cannella wooden fight Goliath can last September. Now, too prideful thing and and not for nothing you know not only are these two stubborn champions. Men and the their. They get the stats for ongoing. Forget all that. Now, we're talking about they're both businessman making tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars so they're businessmen now. And then when when the money gets involved with their natural prior to being a fire, then then it's more than just two fires and bad blood Ben, it's Lawyers than it's been it's the business in contracts in and you know those funny Latin words that are in contracts I'm sure no fighter understands, but they can get translated in many different ways. So that's when the problem starts on. The suits start being becoming involved because it's not the suits going into the ring it's the fighters and once the the fighters and the suits mix up. If it just becomes a headache man when you get the two biggest stars in boxing that when they were hungry before the money before before everyone in the big influx of money came in there were two fires at the top of their game and they wanted to prove to each other who's number one that's it. The first time normal really found out a lot of people talk Lofton weren't bad taste in the mouth rematch nothing really got cleared there either. So we wanted that trilogy to happen and that's the reason these. Guys. Got That big money wasn't it wasn't four zero Meta and it wasn't for rocky fielding. It wasn't for fights like that it was premier fights and that's where this this entire problem comes up. So whatever the Latin word for premieres in that contract that's where everyone's you know I'm getting confused in the commit miscommunication there. So it just sucks for the fighters men, and because weren't some money gets involved once the business and the suits get involved. Then the passion, the purity of what made these guys, champions goes out the window. I understand can wanted to get his money. He's got a contract and you should expect the person that gives you the contract to live up to it. I. Just think that when you look back at all this, I mean him deciding not to face loft will loom large in all this and hopefully it all gets ironed out I think it's still possible that we see Cannella back in the ring at some point in. November. GALOP can soon thereafter in, they're both on track to fight. In that Cinco de Maya weekend in May twenty, twenty, one, i. hope that's how this all plays out because. I think they both need that third fight now to get some momentum back on their respective careers. Let's talk about something hold on. Hold on. Let me ask you a question. Is Callum Smith a premier opponent to is Sandra Premier opponent to you. Yes, I think they are elite fighters. I. Just think you have like you have to basically put it your thumbprint in blood that no matter what's happening next year if this pandemic is still going on, if it's clear whatever you have to fight go often like I don't believe that I don't believe that has a problem with Callum Smith or Billy Joe Saunders, they just need that damn fight to happen I mean Sergio. The fight has already been devalued to a certain degree I mean. You know go off after he beat Steve Rolls You could say. All. Right. He's back still the top of his game type of guy. But after having that kind of life and death fight with Durban Schenk Oh, he's diminished a little bit now maybe he gets some of that back against their Meta which I think he will, and that builds the momentum backup but you've gotTa have canal saying and golden boy saying no matter. What may twenty twenty one if this pandemic is still raging and you lose the gate, we don't care. You've got to do that fight before Galop it's forty I mean that's just what it is. You get Kello and often are signed to zone to fight each other simple as that whether they signed. Will they said it specifically or not? That's why they're with disown. That fight needs to be on the books one way or the other for anything else to happen. I. I don't agree with you much. But yes, I agree that Kevin Smith and BJ SAUNDERS OUR PREMIER, opponents, they're undefeated champion talking. They're not to be considered premier. I agree with you there. But I, think I think the zone and golden boy or the contract or the Latin word for Premier They're expecting trilogy of course or maybe even something. Across, promotion fight a UFC fighter just like Conor McGregor deal with Floyd Mayweather consider that premiere. But to a boxing fan, we don't want up premiere to US Charles is Premier Alaskan is premier if you're a hardcore fan, then you'd think about Count Smith and VJ. Saunders. But we're on the same page on this on. So yeah I am waiting. All right. Let's move on to what we saw this past weekend juvenile herring hundred thirty pound champion. He defended his title wins. Ugly. Jonathan Kendo hit herring with the head but the middle rounds herring decided after eighth around that, he could not continue harrying took some criticism immediately Tim Bradley the former junior welterweight champion had some words about herring kind of giving up there and on social media afterwards because social media sucks and that's what happens there. But. He took some heat and he clearly took a lot of that heat personally your reaction to not only airing deciding not to continue but the criticism herring after the fact. I understand the criticism and you know part of being a boxer part of being an athlete is accepting the criticism because the fans have a say they pay to watch them perform and if you're not performing to that level, they have an absolute right to do that and now with so many social media outlets. Of course, it's going to be more direct to the actual athlete and it's GonNa sting more in the last a little longer. But yeah. I didn't think he'd quit and that's a harsh word man. I. Really hate the word quit. And I don't like it when it's thrown around so easy to just like the word. Great. I don't think you know boxers should be called greater at should be called great unless they really deserved if they're on that a league great level there. So many different words and synonyms for great use that one. and. Use another word for quit. So as far as Perry knows I don't think you quit. He found a way out, but that's not quitting. He retreated that's not quitting. Herring is a soldier. He's a two-time Iraq veteran is a marine. There's no quitting and marines, but there's there's retrieved. That's part of the strategy him battle. If if you're out numbered if you're not if you're not fighting that at your best you retreat. And you find again that's around four first round ends. You've already your corner you get that minute to actually rest up into you were. Them, in a way, you're catching your breath to go out there and fight again. I don't think Harry quit if you want to quit, he would've in the fifth round said I can't see this as it and he would look for that way out. But he continued another three rounds. It's the blood getting in the way of the vision that it's not hurts it's not that he can't see. You can see when you're cut it's just a mix of Bassolino and blood makes it harder to see it looks like you're you're you're looking underwater you can fight through that and that's what Tim Bradley, and Andre War and even myself on on. Social media was acquitted sizing because we've all been cut. We've had face adversity. We know that every fighter ninety, nine point nine percent of fighters had to face an adversity cutting you fight through it when you're doing it on that elite level especially when it televised and you have a way out a loophole like I called it, you're GonNa, take it because you have a bigger fight looming against Carl Frampton, a bigger fight more money. That's the fight that he wanted to sell. Any wanted to get out of this one that he was wedding was winning that fight handily I got him unanimously. So that was his way out acquitting as wait arch. And that's the thing too. I don't believe that a Kendo was gonNA beat him like he had some moments there but I don't like it would have ended in a lopsided decision in favor of Jamel herring anyway. So regardless of the outcome he was going to win one way or the other it doesn't. It doesn't change how you know what the fight was going to play out as and you're right I mean we're all looking ahead to herring versus. Frampton. At some point the fall you don't WanNa see herring get even more hurt and look Kendall. Was flying that head. Around all over the place is a chance. He could have opened that cut even more, and then maybe we're talking about surgery and you know things like that to deal with it I don't have any problem with Jamila and and people think about her and quit I mean give me a break i. mean the guy is as tough as they come he didn't quit. You can say you know he he he could have pushed back harder when his corner was. You know you know willing to let him to let him stop but it ultimately, it doesn't matter I mean he. The outcome was predetermined. It was it was done wasn't on his level he went down in the early rounds Harry would've won that fight going away. So let's all let's not call him a quitter. And let's all move onto herring versus France is a very good fight between two top level one thirties. And we'll go from there. I didn't need to see herring have that cut become even worse I understand Tim Bradley has been through wars. You've been through some tough some tough fights. You always WANNA. See guys tough it out but let's keep it in perspective here. All right. He was. He was badly cut. He was in a fight through was winning. Hanley it was ruled an intentional. Headbutt. That caused cut. So end of story for me don't really have a big problem with with the outcome of that fight. With you two questions back to back. That's weird to me. There you go. Let let me just turn this for a second here Sergio because this came up this week as we saw. Your daynuss Hugo's win a world title. One hundred forty seven pound now, this is the WBA's version of the world title, which is among the more stupid of the world championship fights and Uganda's is a very good fighter I like, Gaza. Lot. But afterwards, he's talking about being world champion. Now, this is just like three weeks remove Sergio from. Jamal James Winning the interim version of the exact same world championship at one, hundred, forty, seven pounds both those fights televised by Fox. The actual world champion for the WB is errol spence. He has that title I'm sorry many Manny Pacquiao he has that title. Because he won that fight against Keith. Last year aerospace the other pieces of the Tidal Sergio Eurofighter why do? Why do fighters even bother like you have to pay a sanctioning fee right for these titles I. Know You fought for a real one, the WBZ belt at one, hundred, fifty, four pounds but help me understand why fighters even bother with this. Real titles the real titles there's one per division and there's one per organization like I don't get why anyone would pay a nickel to the WBA for the right to have a world title that isn't the real belt why do they do it? Because we're kids and we don't like shiny things. That's exactly why we wanna feel rewarded like a feeling of accomplishment and and the reason why in all seriousness mannix this is what because growing up as a young amateur you're accustomed to seen sugar ray Leonard and Roberto Duran and this is speaking of IBM Marvin Hagler. Donald Currie Nino. So many ray champions Benitez, and then you reach the heavyweights. You're seeing those belts on television. We're used to seeing Mike Mike Tyson hold up the BBC and the WB ibn F, and all these other belts you're talking about's but there are so many belts are now four belt era and then you have these interim I championships and you get this franchise champion then you got the diamond belt and then you get the. The Super Bowl and the super about I mean it's ridiculous. It really is ridiculous. It really waters down what it means to be a champion and I, Love I love the fact that fire starts speaking out of that championship. Level fighters like aerospace. You know he tweeted something like Damn and how many champions are there any anti? Absolutely right because we don't even know who the champion is anymore back in the day we know who the champion was. We knew the heavyweight champion was the welterweight champion. And that's not the case anymore because there's four champions, every weight division, and then those four have branches of interim champions and it gets to be ridiculous when no one knows who that F is a champion. So that's the frustration. That's what this comes up. Remember what I used to call those goes interim belts word I use it he liked it. Which one HUBCAP? That's right that's what my trainer used to call hubcap titles because there are other stupid. They're just they're just so stupid like it doesn't take. It doesn't diminish Hugo's as a fighter. He's an excellent fighter. It doesn't diminish all James is an up and coming guy, he's an excellent he's an excellent fighter. But it it just confuses people and they're not real like they're not worth the metal that's on the belt and I just. I think it's important for us as broadcasters and for media members in general to point this out to just shame people into not using these belts and calling them real championships. It's just not fair you're trying to. You're trying to draw in casual fans and it's it gets harder to do that when you can't explain who the hell is the world champion of what when you're talking about we got three world champions in one weight division with one organization. It's hard enough to explain the four organization. forganisations set up in boxing. It gets even harder when one organization gives out three titles. So the whole thing is just it's just wild man I just wish I wish fighters wouldn't do it I understand your point's well taken about you grow up wanting to have a belt around your waist I wish more fighters would tell these organizations to piss off and say you know keep your crappy belt I'm GonNa just keep fighting until I get a real one. Shame the fires. Got Into I think that the three months in that in that quarantine NBA bobble really made you even darker somehow shame the fighters into it it's not. It's not just shaming the fighters. It's shaming promoters. It's shaming broadcast showing everybody involved just don't don't. Empower these sanctioning bodies to. To have these two to be able to say it's a world championship fight. They're not real championship fights. It's. Hashtag be best Manet's best the best get A. Couple of the things that what hits you with. Devon hanes out there and social media right now hinting at a possible fight against Gary Russell June Gary. Russell as we know one, hundred, twenty, six, pound champion Haney fights at one thirty, five Russell's been making some noise lately about moving up in weight. He publicly challenged turns Crawford that didn't really go anywhere because it was kind of nonsensical. Now you have Devon Haney at one, hundred, thirty, five pounds saying their negotiations between himself and Russell for a fight at that weight class Sergio Russell is an. Incredibly. Talented guy doesn't fight all that often is known for fighting basically once a year often against the low level opponent that serves as it's mandatory but I mean, what do you think? Do you WanNa see Gary Russell Against Evan Haney at some point this year yeah. Of course Gary. Brussels a main. He's a US. Olympia knees. He's the longest reigning champion I, mean, yes he's one of the most inactive fighters I believe he's only fought one time the last four or five years, which is ridiculous. But still. Gary Russell. Junior. Still name he still he still the best thing that ain't GonNa have on his resume and. I mean I really got a credit debit Haney demanding that fight it I. Mean it's not really any through his name out there. He's. He's actually been moment to that fight this young champion. So it'll be the youngest champion in boxing in Haney persist the longest reigning champion experienced fighter in Russ on yeah. This is exactly what with boxing's about and if there will you've seen let me ask you let me ask go sir you've seen Russell like the idea of Russell Fighting Turns Crawford was stupid that's too big a jump for a guy to make. Gary Russell One hundred twenty six pounder jumping up to one thirty five. How big is that too much of a jump for him to take because we've seen like Loma Chanko at one, twenty, six in one thirty is unbeatable and we'll talk about this in a second but one thirty five is not the same fighter I mean how? Is that too much weight for us. Gary Russell to jump up at at wants to go to one thirty five. Yes, you think so no I know. So it'll be it'll be he's jumping two-way classes and crunched the numbers here. He's GonNa be four inches shorter eleven years. Older. I'm talking about Russell and there's a seven inch reach disadvantage on Russell. So yes, that's huge. That's that's that's something. That's unreal. It's something that you know it's like Roberto Duran jumping up to wake losses to fight a Leonard yes. But I mean it was it was it was it just way too much way too much size advantage I think the reason that Russell's during his because he sees that Evan Haney is a young and bishops you know maybe wet behind the ears a little bit and I think that's where Russell thinking has advantage in the experience in in a pedigree and he's Mickey might see holes but the size alone if you just break down the numbers. Just way too much size advantage on Amy's part but you gotTA. Love the fact that Russell wants at fight. I just I don't see it happening because it's not like Russell's. For a ton of money at least not according to Haney like a million five is not a huge number for a fight of that caliber and I've got to believe that. Al Hayman will find a way to keep gary on that side of the street I. Mean, there are enough fights. For, Gay Russell to participate in on the PBC side. I mean. It is kind of astonishing Sergio that we haven't seen Gary Russell Gets Leo Santa. Cruz. I know, Leo Santa Cruz is set to find your Vodka Davis but why those two having fought yet is a little mystifying. You could make Gary Russell Against Your Birthday Davis if Davis Beats. Santa Cruz in his fight against December. I. Just I've a hard time seeing PBC. Allow Russell, to go over to the. Side where he could get beat up I mean like I think Gary's tremendously talented guy but I think Devon Haney is an elite skills guy. And because it's his natural way class I think he might beat up on Gary Russell mackey Russell's fast and maybe he can box Devon Haney but I just don't see PGA giving them that opportunity. I think they'll find a fight for him at that price point that'll keep him there. Hope I'm wrong because I wanna see that fight I certainly want to see it more than Devon Haney versus Oregon, bow. But I, get the feeling that. Somehow the next couple of weeks something will pop Gary Russell that will allow him to stay on Fox and showtime and PBC, and we won't see it happen. Whatever the cases I just I just hope. More than once a year because he's An excellent talent and he and he has the fastest in boxing I can go on record states. I think he has the fastest hands in boxing. He's thinking near Khan at the fest hands. Now you know now that you know on your shoulder Jerry Russell still has. And he's GonNa Watch. He's really fun to watch I i. hope whether it's devastating. You're somebody else I just want to see him in a big fight. I know he hasn't been in a big fight a long time and. That's how you measure yourself. It's test your skills against those top level guys. Let me finish with this. We know we've get a big fight coming in about a month or from now. The one, hundred, thirty, five, pound unification fight between. Sankoh and tear FEMA Lopez. That fights going to take place on ESPN which is great news because it's not going to be on pay per view it's not gonna be on any kind of premium service. You'RE GONNA be able to watch that on basic cable and that's going to be a huge fight. I mean low much goes in Sergio as a pretty strong favourite in that fight. But Lopez is more than a live dog here I mean Lopez is coming off that win of Richard Komi he's able to make one thirty five more comfortably now because of the different people that he's working with. lomo checklist pound for pound. Great. Maybe the number one pound for pound guy in boxing. How much of a chance? Do you give tear Fema Lopez and how does he win a fight against Basilio? Marchinko? And you you always have to give a young hungry ambitious. A fighter champion now Lopez an opportunity and a chance to do it but but it just he's GonNa be biting off too much chew because in order to beat Lohman Chanko you got to do two things yet to be an excellent boxer and you gotTa have excellent brawling because you have to Brolin early and box some late you have to make Lohman Shaneco. Come towards you use his feet and then yet to back them up later into fighter vice versa however, you decide to do yet to do a little bit of both you can't just go in there thinking you're in a box on number one fighter in the world or out slugged him with. We've seen them get Brian dirty with out of like Arlene Natalie Alito. But he's grown a lot since cents. So it takes timing which I think mopus excellent at Hauer, which definitely has its the experience of having to go from boxer to brawler win rounds these smart about winning around you know small your pride and not mixed up with even when you think you're winning that round that's when you put it in reverse let low machiko come towards you. It's GonNa take a lot. It's GonNa take a lot of experience and that's where Lamont Chanko you know I think he towers over I'm in experience a tiny and mixing up your taxes are. I think you've got to be physical with him because as I mentioned, he's not a big hundred, thirty, five pounder. He is a good size one, thirty, maybe a big one, twenty six but he is not a big hundred thirty pounder. Lopez is a big hundred and thirty five pounder and I. Think you've got to look if Lomu. Stop. Let me stop you there because you know in credibly hard it is to be physical with a fighter South Pole switches and always fighting from angles. It is the hardest thing to do. It's impossible. He's like a Rubik's Cube you can't get physical on the way you get physical Jayco as he's aggressive towards you believe it or not mad. The hardest thing to try to track down the Matrix met someone like that high tech that's his nickname but he has like well. That's Kinda my point though like you low much ankles coming towards you like he's all offense, he's a good defensive fighter. Because of his skills but he's offense all the time to throw punches at all different angles. You've got to counter those punches with big shots Iran I. Don't think you can beat Loma Chanko by decision I do think he can stop him because we've seen Loma Chango go down it gets horrible in ours he went down I think Lopez has the power more power than ours and I think he's got an opportunity to land some big shots I think he's GonNa land something huge against Loma Chanko any they're. Stopping with one punch or force kind of a stoppage with a flurry. I. Think if it's just a boxing match, he'll lose like one, eighteen, one, ten, I don't think he i. don't think he's on the same level as Loma Changle boxing. Wise. But I do think it's powers there and I think when much echo comes forward Lopez gotta throwback. You've almost got to make it a straight up brawl and try to win it that way you're not gonNA land power without timing. So like I said in order for. Janko timing I in mixing boxing with brawling. Power and the speed are going to be enough here because Loma Chink way too much pedigree experience to let you know fast hands or big power you know. Be Effective Timing Mannix that's GONNA be key. Now I agree I agree big good fight looking forward to that sometime next month Sergio enjoy your next show. With Todd, Grisham I'll be back middle of next week I'm going back on vacation now because the NBA bubble has broken me and I'm going to. Go back to bed vacation mannix. pleased. This is the first time I see your orange wearing a cutoff sleep sleep shirt I never WANNA see worrying to cut off the shirt again and next time I. See on your vacation hopefully you get a ten because you're ill I'm going to go sit by the beach just soak in that vitamin D for the next few days but I will see you on jabs on zone next week check that out subscribe over at his own good to talk to Sergio. I, that's it. For this week's episode of my thanks to my guests as always subscribe to the podcast at Apple podcasts. Great Review. You know I appreciate it and I'll see you next week.

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Melissa Lucio

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Melissa Lucio

"Explicit content is found in this episode listener discretion is advised. Welcome back to the true crime fan club podcast. I'm your host Laney, Melissa, Lucille, is one of only six women on death row in the state of Texas. She is to be executed by lethal injection for the crime of capital murder against her very own child Maria, Robert Alvarez was Melissa live-in, partner, and also mariah's father, while Robert looked the other way Melissa was convicted of abusing Mariah. So severely over the course of several months that it ultimately led to her death. Okay on the show. Melissa Lucia was born on June. Eighteenth nineteen sixty nine she was born raised and lived in Texas her entire life. She was the oldest raised alongside her five siblings, two sisters and three brothers, Melissa sister Sonia Valencia recalls her being funny, and very smart at math, their childhood growing up was normal, like, so many other children of that time, they grew up playing outside making mud pies and playing hopscotch and hide and seek their mother worked at night, and they're stepdad cared for the kids in the evenings. Their mom kept a very clean home, and all of the kids had chores, they were expected to do so Neha remembers herself being the troublemaker of the girls while Melissa was more of a people pleaser, Melissa married at a fairly young age and had seven children with her first husband Melissa's verse. Husband was an alcoholic and very abusive towards her when he got drunk, the abuse got worse because of this, the mirrored fell apart, and she would later get divorced. She eventually began a long term relationship with a man named Robert Alvarez, despite never marrying, Robert, and Melissa had seven children together, five of their kids were born before, Melissa would eventually be imprisoned. There twins were born in October two thousand seven during the time Melissa was jailed Robert was a drug addict. And he brought those addictions into their marriage soon Melissa would be doing drugs to during the relationship Melissa struggled with depression and drug abuse. A few of her children were born drug addicted to cocaine, according to CPS reports, chap protective services or CPS. They are commonly referred to was frequently involved with. A family. There were often allegations of abuse, and neglect CPS had many contacts with Melissa and her children between nineteen ninety five and two thousand seven when her then youngest child was killed CPS has reports on the family amid allegations of abuse, neglect, or both in nineteen ninety-five nineteen Ninety-six nineteen ninety eight two thousand two thousand one two thousand to two thousand three and he four when, you know, the end of this story, it's hard to ignore CPS as role in it on September twenty first two thousand four CPS removed, five children, from the home of Melissa, and Robert, the children, Robert Gabriel Adriana, Sarah and Maria ranged in age from three years old. Two three weeks old in an affidavit filed by CPS worker. The condition situation were living in could only be described as complete squalor specifically CPS specialist. Dila Garza cited, quote, unsafe living conditions for children. There were ants crawling on the floor and mattress where the newborn slept. The EPA David continued stating, there was a fan in the window that had no cover inside the refrigerator. There was only a rotten head of lettuce a carton of eggs, and a plastic container of manny's signs of physical abuse were apparent on all of the children each child appeared to have bite marks in various sizes and bruising and varying degrees of colors. They were all filthy, and the youngest were not even wearing diapers and had dried fecal matter on their bodies. The children were placed in foster care during this time, because there were no family members that were present to care for them. Melissa. And Robert did however participate in services with CPS, and eventually, the five children, Melissa had with Robert, along with three of her other children were returned back into her care on November twenty first two thousand six there were twelve children, all living in a small apartment with Melissa and Robert, Robert worked, but they also received a significant amount of welfare and assistance from the state of Texas. It was reported that Melissa and Robert were receiving nearly five thousand dollars a month, and assistance from the state Melissa was reported to be a drug addict, but she claimed to be clean after her children were returned to her. However, she did say that Robert was still using drugs. It is possible that Melissa and Robert would have still been financially drowning, even with his income, and the assistance, they received from the state, there are many speculations, that could be made about what went on in that home. But one thing is clear, the abuse that Mariah, suffered led to her death, and would subsequently land Melissa on Texas death row and put Robert in prison for four years on February, seventeenth two thousand seven and approximately seven PM police were dispatched to the home of Robert Alvarez and Melissa Lucio. They live together in an apartment with nine of Milas children, five of them reported to be Roberts. The couple was in the process of moving to a new apartment, Robert had contacted nine one one because he noticed his youngest child two year old Maria was not breathing. According to Roberts testimony, he had trying to perform CPR on her, but didn't think it was helping. And he later started to have panic and said everything happened so fast. He said that URL. Earlier in the day, Melissa told him multiple times upon his asking that. Mariah was fine. And that there was nothing wrong with her though. He sent something was wrong with Mariah. He believed Melissa because she told him that Mariah was okay. He never pressed further after the paramedics were called and arrived on scene. The immediately noted that the younger girl was lying in the apartment without anyone near her and was completely. Motionless Melissa showed little to no emotion over the state of her younger daughter. She told paramedics at her daughter have fallen down set of stairs outside their apartment building. She thought her daughter seemed all right at first, so she brought her back inside the apartment and didn't report it, it was later that afternoon when Robert had returned home from running errands, that he checked on the little girl. A few times the last time he checked. She was not breathing, which is when he began CPR. PR and contacted nine one one in his statement to police, he said that if he felt he had taken her to a doctor sooner she might still be alive today. Little Maria Alvarez was transported to the valley Baptist medical center in Harlingen Texas where she was pronounced dead. Doctors at the hospital noted the horrific conditions of her tiny body, the little girl showed many signs of abuse that were in different stages of healing. She had bruising all over her body, and doctors reported bite marks on her back, one of her arms had been broken approximately two to seven weeks before her death. And she was missing portions of her hair, where it had been pulled out of its roots, the physicians at the hospital, who looked over mariah's body seated that this was the absolute worst case of child abuse. They had ever seen mariah's ultimate cause of death was listed. As blunt force trauma, the same evening. That nine one one call was made for Mariah police brought, Melissa and for questioning they had her in an interrogation room from ten o'clock, pm until about three o'clock, a m Melissa told several different versions of her story during this interrogation it was recorded and would later be introduced as evidence in her murder trial. It would also become a topic of her leader appeal due to the fact that the audio of her statement was of low quality. There were also some areas where Melissa's defense team could only define it as inaudible during this nearly five hour interrogation Melissa told police that Mariah had fallen down the stairs on February fifteenth two days before the emergency services were called. She leader changed her story stating that she fell on the seventeenth for more than two and a half hours, Melissa maintained that she didn't know how Moore. Yeah, I got all of those bruises and marks on her body, detective Escalante, who was in charge of the investigation would testify at her trial about this interview. He said he could tell that Melissa was beginning to see that she was had, and that she wanted to confess he continued oppressor because of this, he was firm in his testimony that he could tell just by her body language in the interview that she wanted to come clean leader on into the interview, Melissa finally admitted to abusing her daughter and other children. She told police at her partner, Robert had never hit Mariah or the other children when questioned if it was possible, that Melissa's other kids could have hit Mariah. She stated that no one else had ever hit Mariah. But her police brought her a dull and had her demonstrate exactly how she abused her little girl and to show them, what she. Did police continued grilling Melissa and an attempt to obtain a fully detailed confession from her Melissa would admit that she abused her daughter by spanking, her and hitting her? However, she would not admit to killing her as detectives continued with their questioning Melissa admitted to them that Mariah was sick the day that she died. She said Mariah slept most of the day, and when she tried to feed her Mariah would buy down and not take any food. Many of the symptoms that she described would later be testified to, as being similar to those of someone who was subjected to blunt force trauma, according to the videotape played at the trial, she stated that she was frayed to take the little girl to the hospital that day because of all the bruising on her body. She would leader also say she was afraid, Robert would accuse her of being a bad mother. Unfit bureau. Eighteenth two thousand seven Melissa Lucio was arrested, and I'll may sixteenth two thousand eight she was indicted on capital murder charges, according to find law, Texas does not officially use the term first degree murder. Instead, the equivalent is capital murder. Prosecutors must be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant intentionally and knowingly caused the death of another person the defendant intended to cause serious bodily injury and committed an act that was clearly dangerous to human life. And this act caused the death of an individual further Texas penal code, also cites additional criteria for an offense to be considered a capital murder offense, which includes the defendant murders child younger than six years old on may thirty first two thousand seven she was arraigned on the charges in the summer of two. Thousand eight Melissa went to trial for the capital murder of her daughter Maria Alvarez, several doctors CPS workers, paramedics and police testified at her trial, the chief forensic pathologist for the Cameron and Hidalgo counties. Dr Norma Jean Farley testify that the blunt force trauma to mariah's head probably occurred within twenty four hours of her death. She also testified that the blunt force trauma in this case basically means beaten around the head with something an object a hand a fist or slammed against something. She further stated that she did not believe the injury to be consistent with falling down the stairs, the videotape of her police interrogation was also introduced, which would prove to be an integral part in the prosecution making their case, frosty cures wanted show. Melissa's odd behavior at the scene. The wanted the jury to see. See the pattern of abuse at the hands of Melissa as documented by her many CPS interactions. Prosecutors needed the jury to see the old injuries of the two year old bruise limbs and damaged vital organs and old broken bones. The most damning evidence came from the investigators who spent direct time with Melissa, one of the -tective, and the case testified that while he was transporting Melissa to the dentist office in order to obtain dental impressions to compare to the bite marks on mariah's back. He overheard Melissa on a cell phone, call telling another family member that she was responsible for mariah's death when it was time for the defense to present their case, they were able to show that the investigation was not as thorough as one would expect while numerous forensic items were obtained for testing. They were never actually tested this included drug residue found at the apart. -ment drug testing for Melissa and Robert and DNA testing on hair and fingernails taken from Melissa. The defense also had expert testimony from Dr then suggested it was possible that mariah's injuries could have happened from a full dental molds were made from all of the available family members. But none of them matched, the bite marks on mariah's body. However, this may have been due to the marks on mariah's back having been made from teeth scraping against her skin, rather than a bite down the defense team pointed out that there was a total of five different. Police officers questioning Melissa without an attorney present she answered their questions, but she had been awake. For almost twenty four hours. She was understandably tired and stressed as noted an appeals documents Melissa's Lee defense. Attorney Peter Gilman said in his final arc. Kamenz that his client had not confessed to murdering her child. However, he would never call her mother of the year. He told the jury that Melissa herself had only been told about Mariah falling down the stairs about twenty four hours before her death. He said that Melissa wasn't home when Mariah fell because of family was in the process of moving to another apartment. He went on to say that while his client was guilty of child abuse. She wasn't guilty of murder and having confessed to such despite his impassioned, pleas to the jury Melissa Lucio was found guilty of capital murder against her little girl, Maria Alvarez on July ninth two thousand eight quart would reconvene to proceed to the penalty phase of the trial, when he met with reporters at morning before court Cameron county district attorney are Mondovi. Mobile's indicated that his plan, all along was to ask for the death penalty warranty testimony was given during the penalty phase of the trial during this portion both sides are required to show the jury the likelihood of Melissa re-offending after serving her prison sentence. This would help determine if the appropriate sentence was life with the possibility of parole. Life without the possibility of parole or the death penalty because of the long term ongoing abuse the prosecution wanted Melissa to receive the death penalty prosecutors wanted to show any possible negative behaviors they could in order to justify the death penalty rather than a life sentence evidence about her negative behavior in jail was introduced, including disciplined. She had received for fighting and for having contraband. The prosecution also brought up Melissa's conviction for drinking and driving. Melissa was arrested for drunk driving offense before her daughter died, but wasn't convicted and sentence until after she was arrested for mariah's death. Melissa's defense had to show that there were mitigating factors to Melissa's behavior and that she was not a danger to the society at large. They presented expert. Testimony from psychologists who claimed that Melissa had alleged. She was a long suffering victim of both sexual and physical assault. Her mother's boyfriend had sexually assaulted her at a very young age since she was about sixteen years old. She had been exposed to drugs and violence, her defense also argued that, if the state considered Melissa to be so dangerous, then why was she allowed CPS supervised visitation with her twins during her incarceration after deliberating once again, the twelve person jury came back with the decision to sentence Melissa Lucio to death. On July twenty second two thousand eight Melissa was formerly sentenced to death by lethal injection. She was the first woman ever in Cameron county to be sentenced to the death penalty and only one of ten and all of Texas at the time and September of two thousand nine Robert Alvarez went to trial on his charges stemming from the death of his daughter. Mariah Robert was charged with causing serious bodily injury and failing to seek medical care. He alleged that he was out running errands, on the day that Mariah was killed. Robert told officers that on February seventeenth two thousand seven he quote knew something was wrong with his little girl, he checked on her several times at evening. And on the last check he found her not responsive or breathing. He knew he needed to do something. So he picked Mariah up and placed her on the ground and proceeded to perform CPR to try to. Get her to breathe again. He called nine one one and then continued CPR until the paramedics arrived. He said he asked Melissa if their little girl was okay earlier, and she said, she was his claim is that it wasn't until he started CPR that he noticed bruising all over his daughter? He was arrested that night and would remain in jail until his trial over two years later. It didn't take jury long to come back with a guilty. Verdict on the charges. The judge state district judge Benjamin, you rusty junior sentence, Robert the same day he was found guilty. Robert was sentenced to four years in prison, because he had been imprisoned since the day, Mariah was killed, he would only have to serve an additional two years in prison district attorney via lables will leader tell reporters that, while he was happy with the verdict. He wasn't very happy with the sentence Melissa would go on to appeal her conviction. To the Texas court of criminal appeals who did ultimately uphold her conviction in September. Two thousand eleven Melissa Lucio lost her appeal and the Texas court of criminal appeals. There were fourteen points of error Melissa's appellate attorneys suggested were made by the trial court among the claims in her appeal Melissa's defense team, had an expert that would testify at the trial to the behaviors that Melissa exhibited during her initial police contact as well as her police interrogation specifically Melissa's defense team wanted to introduce expert. Testimony from miss Norma via Nueva. The defense team believed as quoted in the court of appeals brief the misfield Nueva could testify to the inability of a battered woman to give voluntary statement. They also cited in the brief that the essence of miss via Nuevas testimony is that Melissa was a battered woman, and would have and did tell the. Police what they wanted her to say she believed Melissa would resort to battered women behavior in order to get herself out of trouble. This would include doing or saying anything in order to keep the peace and take the blame on herself for anything that happened, whether it was her fault, or not, the defense also wanted miss Vienne Weber today. Sect Melissa's body language with police and CPS workers. However, the trial court did not find misbehave as testimony to be expert testimony and determined. It was not relevant. Another argument raised in her appeal was at the videotape of her initial interview with police was an audible during several points of the recording. The Steve responded to the claim saying that while the recording was not of the greatest quality. It was still completely audible when turning up the volume at quieter points. The state also suggested that using headphones. Improve the sound quality further. Another claim raised was the fact that the trial court didn't allow a jury instruction. The gave the jury the ability to consider a lesser charge, the state countered this claim by saying that the only way a reasonable jury could really consider a lesser charge. Is if Melissa had admitted to causing the head injury that was made by blunt force trauma, because Melissa has always insisted that Maria had fallen down a flight of stairs. She wasn't taking responsibility for the head injury that Mariah died from and therefore the jury could not consider a lesser charge. The appellate brief also attempted to minimize Melissa's future dangerousness by citing old case law in which a defendant, murdered her newborn child and then became pregnant again, murdering that newborn child as well. That woman's lawyer successfully claimed that she did not pose a threat of future dangerousness to the public. Nick, but rather only to her own newborn children, since the defendant, would not be eligible for parole until after her childbearing years. She was not a danger to anyone after her parole eligibility in Melissa's case, the state counter argued that Melissa did pose a threat of future dangerousness because of the ongoing and severe abuse to Mariah at her own hands, which led to the child's death in the end the Texas court of criminal appeals did not find in favour of any of the claims of error raised by Melissa in her appeal, which meant that her conviction would stand on February eleventh, two thousand fourteen in a surprising turn of events. The Cameron county district attorney that prosecuted, Melissa Lucio and Robert Alvarez Armando via locals was sentenced to thirteen years and federal prison for bribery, and extol. Russian an FBI investigation into our Mondovi Lobos and others stated that they participated in an ongoing conspiracy from two thousand six until two thousand twelve by taking bribes and kickbacks and cash and campaign contributions in exchange for leniency and sometimes outright. Dismissal of charges. It was found that are Mondovi Lobos had accepted almost one hundred thousand dollars in bribes, and he was even using his office to help his personal associates, and their own suits against the county via Lobos was ultimately convicted of one count of violating the racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act, also known as the Rico act, one count of conspiracy to violate the Rico act and five counts of extortion. One count of extortion was dismissed upon his motion for acquittal after his thirteen year prison term. He will be. On parole for three years. He was also ordered to pay nearly three hundred seventy thousand dollars in fines and restitution. It remains to be seen whether any of his convictions will be overturned as a result of his own criminal charges are Mondovi, yellow, bows. Currently remains and federal prison. Robert Alvarez was released from prison. Approximately two years after his jury trial as of this recording. Melissa Lucille remains on death row for the capital murder of her daughter Maria Alvarez, no execution date has been scheduled in lead April of two thousand nineteen. I reached out to the free Melissa Lucille Facebook page run by Melissa's, sisters Sonya. And Diane, I asked the sisters to answer some questions that would help me understand the impact of Melissa's conviction and subsequent incarceration. While we often spend time focused on the punishment of the perpetrator. Her. How do you show empathy? When the victim and perpetrator come from the same family, I wanted to offer Melissa's family an opportunity to share their side of things, and how Melissa's incarceration has affected them Melissa's family, misses her very much. They do not believe she belongs in prison, much less on death row. They prayed daily for her release and hope for some positive outcomes in the future. Her family firmly believes that former district attorney are Mondovi Lobos use Melissa's low income status would several children as a way to secure a popular conviction that he could then use or his reelection campaign. They implore anyone who wants to send a positive message to Melissa to contact her as she is currently in solitary confinement for unknown reasons. Okay fan club members, as I conclude the Sepah sewed my one question to you is. How will you sleep tonight? Thank you for listening. 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Where you get all Vic Chris Jericho and Ozzie that one could ask for so unfortunately because of that we will not be taking phone calls this week like I said all those shows are waiting to be taped in advance so today okay and tomorrow maybe tomorrow but today for sure is going to be one of the only chases you have a chance to call in and opine over what's going on in professional wrestling and mixed martial arts arts one eight hundred eight seven eight plays the number one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine? It was a full weekend. We have ratings news No makes everybody's so happy but it is something we should point out here because this is a time of year or ratings actually should matter a little bit and everything should be kind of hyper and in today's age everything is is got a microscope on it anyway but you know the traditional time to get hyped about the WWF laugh and wwe between Royal Rumble and and Wrestlemainia. You know a lot of attention always paid. There are a lot of people who fall out during the rest of the year. They always know to get jacked up again because of the royal rumble in I think the royal rumble has lost some appeal in the last couple of years. I think there ways that they could hype it up ways they can make it better ways to try to get some of that old feeling back then I think it has lost and and we could talk a little bit about that. But I digress will get back to the ratings here on smackdown which we're pretty good. They pulled their best since November the fast overnight. And we're going to have a better picture on this as the week goes on and by the way everything maybe maybe delayed a little bit this week just because of the fact that Martin Luther King Day is Monday and being celebrated here so that may push all the ratings news from the weekend back a day but the fast overnights show that the show did a two point five a two point five eight million viewers which is up three percent from last week again the best number that they have done since the go home show for these survivor series on November twenty second the show averaged Ao Point. Five in the very important Jordan eighteen to thirty four demo which was on par from last week it was up seven percent in eighteen to forty nine with an point eight rating. It's best in that category gory. Since November eighth as you raise the age of course the show does even better with the twenty five to fifty four set coming within a half point of a full one point ratings so obviously Fox is going to be happy about that is still not the one they wanted in the eighteen to thirty four demo but getting some stability ability back at a time where they certainly needed if you can't generate any buzz right now for the royal rumble and for the Path wrestlemainia. You're just not going to do it. And I think they took advantage of some things On smackdown on Friday night I think they did a good job there. I'm still not sold on Brian's bold prediction prediction and proclamation. That he believes that this is going to be the best bill to a Wrestlemainia in quite some time. I think already. Since it's not last year's it's it's better than last year so that's obviously damning with faint praise as well to we'll have to see what happens. We still have three shows left raw smackdown and an X. T. the next week before we get into the royal rumble and we have a lot of spots that are open. And I'll get into. How everything is shaping up as far as both the men's and the women's rumble goes but I I will go to the phones one? Eight hundred eight seven eight. Play Ryan Cumberland Maryland Ryan. How are you get a the question on the road? I'm on my birthday January. Nineteen which is day you know why they went away from doing that and also from my rumble fix that. I would like to see in and I'd like to see more genetic pitas Santana each gene on the men's side and on the women's side I'd like to see something bombings since they were in the first rumbling. You're still pretty young. I think for a second. Just one of the jumping bomb angels. You don't get both well. I think one with the enough I prospect Russell. One phone call from us is enough to you very much for the call. I don't think you're going to get any of those people. I certainly don't think you're going to get Mardi Canetti in the royal rumble. You may get Mardi Nellie in a in a game changer wrestling a royal rumble. Or whatever they call such event they couldn't be called the royal rumble symbol because of of trademarking in such but Yeah why it's not on January nineteenth anymore. I never remember it. Being on a set date it was never on a set date it was always just don like whatever date they put it on. I mean Whatever Sunday is that's what it's GonNa be and that's what it's been over the last gosh knows how many years and I don't know if they ever actually squared it up to be on Martin Luther King Day weekend or that was just probably the easiest date that they could get You know they've always had Sundays with the exception of WCW. We see w running a pay per view on Sunday. Nothing else did in the time the WWF has been on pay per view. And you've been on pay per view for the most part at least in this modern INARA. All boxing shows and all most other fighting shows have been on Saturday night. So I think it's just a matter of where are they can. Sunday falls in what shakes out there. But let me try to clean the The the sound of Ryan out of everyone's ears by going back to the phones. Now Talk to Paul Paul. Barbara's Ville Paul. How are you my friend? Oh doing okay enjoying a nice quiet day from work and I was wondering how. How fitting is it that the week they announced the one night only return of TNA impact wrestling had a only a moment For those who haven't been following they got banned from twitch for borderline pornographic content over the Rob Damn Damn video aired on this week's impacted you to see this unique angle. I did not. I heard about the controversy controversy but I did not see it so yeah I know there were. There was all sorts of suggestions sexuality. And things like that but I mean was there nipple all because as always the the the the line where things get drawn is usually at the nipple. Paul is that what happened is that why they are off twitch yes it was a Video of Robin Damn in bed with two women. He's doing this crazy. MIDLIFE CRISIS GIMMICK I guess well hold on now call. Let's be fair here. It is apparently in shoot life. He's got his wife and then he's got his ex-girlfriend so that may be a play on real life here okay so so. It's not a gimmick but They were in bed. One of them had whipped cream over her bosom and there was some very he briefly viewed pixellated nipple h on screen and this whole thing looked more like a porno film than the Valby. Venus introductory videos informality sounds it. Sounds like it's pretty bad porn into as well to if it says it's being produced by impact wrestling in on twitch. So I know this go over well to anybody that like you know works for twitch I guess but how did it go over for the fan base of impact that just came off seeing Tessa supplant for beat semi Callahan. I mean at least it had played to their fan base. No matter how large or small that it is I I don't know oh I know there were some of the teeny Diehards who are very mad at twitch getting the thing pulled but I have yet to hear anybody say this was a good segment moment. Paul thank you very sorry. Go ahead buddy you can go ahead. I'm done now you know we're we're getting close to the break. That's why hi there Paula. Thank you very much for the call. I mean I you know I guess they have to throw everything at the wall to get attention but it was like when I was watching the Blanchard semi Kellyanne thing. It's like I know for their fans or if you're I guess what they WANNA project is. You should be really happy about overcoming and becoming this woman. 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One eight hundred eight seven eight play got mic on the Line Mikko. Aria now depend Mike. How you doing today? I'll make an Amana got a nasty cold but other than that I'll live. How about yourself? Oh I hope you feel better Quickly just wanted to say I think my prediction for just the men. Rumble is Walter being in there. I kinda WanNa see Walter and Braun strowman that thing going to happen in the rumble. But the one thing I wanted to ask you Something something that went like under the radar the wrestling world. This past week was the interview by Kris van with David Ben Wa. Have you heard it and learn. Do you have any thoughts on I did. I didn't hear the interview but I saw that. The interview was done. And you you know I I make I gotta be honest. It's not exactly a subject that I have any interests in at this point. You know I have some you know real life honest sympathies for David. Ben Juan situation that he's in and his want to want to become a wrestler and the fact that he looks like his father and who has father is an in all of these things that are working against them. I have some sympathies there. But unfortunately it's just for me. It's not a story that I am interested in and want to even think about not anymore. How about you did you hear the whole thing? I listen to it and it's very compelling I mean he has gear ready. He's trying to get the rights to I like the music that his dad came out and he wants to work the style. Chris did Chris Unbelievably. It was one of the Best I've ever seen. Yes it was a horrible thing but I think if David were to get into wrestling I think it could kind of shape up. That whole thing like it. Shouldn't he shouldn't be based off off his wrestling. Career shouldn't be based off of what the last forty to seventy two hours of what happened with his dad and Nancy and Daniel. It should be his legacy that he makes the ring mic. I agree with that but I think the problem is that he wants to use the name number one he already facially will give people reminders of his father so to go out and then use the name to market yourself on that to Monte used. The music gives people a instant reaction. They feel some sort of way about a suzy. I mean was it Roche I think it was. Russia was using it in Mexico in any American they usually heard it. That was not familiar with Lucia and heard that they all are like. Why is he using Chris? Benoit's music because of what happened and I can't ask answer why that happened and I can't answer. Only David Been Walking why he thinks that this is something that is one good idea in that to thinks is going to help him. In any way I mean there seems to be a in my opinion if he honestly is believing this and he is designed and I have no reason to believe. He's not the amount of denial that he's in right now. What for a lot of different reasons is just staggering to me? And I think it's just not it's just going to be a disaster if it up I mean. I can't see there being any positive that what do you I mean. He seems to be putting this all on himself. No I I can't I can't I mean he was David if he came out as David Jackson and he did not have the rip that year and he doesn't come out to his father's music and he tries to build his name on David Mulligan or whatever his name aim would be. Don't you think that that would probably be a better. It's not like anybody's going to not know that. That's the that's Chris. Benoit's son but it would give him more of a chance to earn it on his own not believe leave. I believe so that would only be my only thing there. Megan thank you very much for the call and I appreciate you bringing it up and again I'd have to hear the whole interview you know and I can only speak for the little parts that I've heard and it said right there about David wanting to use the music he wants. What's the use the name? It's just sorry you're going to get the reaction that you're gonna get because of that if that happens let me transition back now to the royal rumble. The participation list is rounding out on smackdown on Friday night McBride Walter and Bronze Stroman is liked to the. That's that's one of those matches that that to me is a wrestlemainia match. It's Wrestlemainia match you can do for you want to do it for whatever stakes that you wanted to. You could have Walter over Braun strowman. I don't think it'd be the end of the world. I don't know if they'll do that or not but that that would be something that would make me happy. I'd be okay with that. They all hospital. Those guys hammering each other. I'm fine with that and bronze in the rumble. Right now he in Shinsegei Nakimora announced they'll be entering the thirty man. Dan Battle Royal. It's still thirty men right now keep thinking they may may WanNa bump that up again. No they did that one time. The world's biggest roll rumble wherever they called it. L. Pertile del. Rio WPRO eliminate Santino to win the thing to not exactly go the way I would have wanted it to very little in. WWe Does what can you do. The one thousand nine hundred dudes announced so so far for the rumble so there is no even amount that is going to be spread out amongst the brands which was rumored at one point with having some sort of presence. We still don't know if there's going to be a presence in the royal rumble. Brock Listener Roman reigns. Aj Styles Randy or rain. Stereo Junior Ricochet Eric. Eric Rowan drew McIntyre Baron. Corbin Dolf Ziglar Elias. Alisher black rousseff bobby Lashley Buddy Murphy. Heavy machinery of OTAS and Tucker from Stroman and Shinsegei Nakimora nineteen people so far women's royal rumble. Four four announced. You could have just put up a graphic with every random woman in the background. Natalia Dana Brooke whoever I mean they're you're gonna be in there right. I mean you really have to be that careful. Are you being I mean. Obviously there's going to be annexed participation in the women's rumble. There's no doubt about that. I'm sure it's GONNA a little in the men's tube and it's going to be to me. I would assume far more pronounced in the women's rumble. Maybe that's why they have waited so long like the week of the rumbled to add anybody. But the the only people that have been announced it so far Alexa Bliss Nikki Cross Charlotte Flair and Sarah Logan Charlotte Flair and Sarah Logan. Who in in their two week feud not made anyone excited to see any more interaction between those two in the royal rumble? But there they are the rest of the card is rounding go to after smackdown. Bailey will battle Lacey Evans for the smackdown women's championship that was added alongside shameless against Shorty G. which on paper sounds horrible in reality that might actually be pretty good? I like shameless. Because they never had wrestling before I think he's a human crowbar crowbar with that said. I've been loving his videos that he does for his fitness the workouts and all that stuff. That's shameless was great. And I thought that's the direction. Actually we were getting was shameless. I thought we were getting retire chambers. Who was going to be doing a lot of fitness stuff and and doing things like that? Maybe a liaison for wwe. I had no idea he comes back. I it worries me. You know. They're made the talked about it and I think a lot of people have with The comeback of Aroma Takahashi every bump that that he takes. It's going to be going to be real to me because I'll be cringing about it but was shameless. It's going to be the same way style L. Stenosis you know. People have rumored edged coming back and there are still people that would love to see Steve Austin and out there. And it's just it's very frightening to me with these guys. You know win with shameless coming back. I mean even there was shortage guy who you know at his size with his wrestling experience. I mean he could pick shame us up. Put him down safely wherever he. He wanted him to go shorty. Geez just kind of a little fireplug of a strong guy a pretty safe worker from from all accounts but still it's A. It's a scary proposition for me to have shame back but he ensured he will be coming up next Sunday night rollins championship becky. Lynn Oscar falls count anywhere anywhere as decided by Baron Corbin after his defeat of bobby route on Friday night. Roman reigns Darin. Corbin falls. Count anywhere I know. This is annoyed Bryan Alvarez. I also know that we annoyed many of you out there by defending the possibility of a loser eats dog food angle looking at the history three of pro wrestling where they have done these types of angles in the past and look. It's just a little cheap thing. I think they could have gone about it a lot. Better to actually get real heat with it. I wouldn't the had a mascot. I wouldn't have had an unnamed. Drake Maverick out there holding Romans leg I would have made it a heavier heat angle. And O'Brien called it a heavy heat angle. There were holes that were blown in that it was not as heavy of heat angles. It should have been and that's why the payoff won't be as good as it should be. But you know that's the way it goes sometimes but that said all that nonsense we could still see it. You know we could still see falls. Count anywhere and where they're outside somewhere and after Roman reigns gets the win. He makes me dog food. We could see this end up in February. I don't see it going to Wrestlemainia but I could see actually lasting after this month as well too so who knows what's going to happen there. It has been away for them to fill time whether people out there have liked it or not in many of you have not. But that's the way it goes universal championship Bray Array Wide Daniel Bryan in a strap match another good thing. I thought they did on smackdown on Friday night. I like the way that Kane and Bryan Setup Ray. Wyatt didn't think it was going to lead due to a strap match. But Hey what can you do be back with you a ton of other stuff to talk about as well. Cottam Gregor still. We're going out with a royal rumble. A bunch bunch other stuff as well. Two plus your phone calls one. Eight hundred eight seven eight play wrestling observer live football and basketball seasons are in in full swing so get into the game with our exclusive sports betting partners that online dot. Ag Sign up today to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus on your first first deposit to start betting college or professional sports every spread every total every winter or losing straight bet harley arly Ortiz your way through sees you can even bet on wild proposition bets like who will win. 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I Ron replays aired eight. PM Eastern five West Zero you TC. On Saturdays Jim Valley's wrestling observer live at one. PM Eastern Ten am Pacific. Time time. I'm not going to complain about the fact that I'm all loaded down with mucus right now. I know Jim got very sick over The time that he was in Japan with Dave coming back Fortunately it was not here yesterday. Hopefully it just gets better. Here's the the week goes on man. Everybody else out there. The random temperature changes feeling rough. Nobody's feeling rough right now. Kansas City. Congratulations fans the Kansas City chiefs. If C champions winning on the finish year the Green Bay packers the San Francisco Forty niners to see won the Super Bowl in Miami Bobby Bell who is on the Super Bowl winning team Super Bowl Four. And I believe played on the very first It was already drafted by the chiefs at that time played in the very first super bowl against the Green Bay packers. He's from Shelby North Carolina mid Atlantic championship wrestling. TV taping territory that they used to do their job bell was at their as part of the AFC championship presentation immediately. Made me think of one of his former teammates. Big A big cat. Ernie ladd six feet. Nine fees cover the ground. I walk on if you go and you watch on Youtube or the. NFL films the wrap up of the Super Bowl the CVS coverage of the Super Bowl Super Bowl for hang strand matriculate and the ball down the field chiefs vikings. Ernie ladd is one of the first people that the interview in the Locker Room. After passing hall of Famer he was already off the chiefs. At that point. I believe had retired the year before. I don't think he was out of the League at that point yet and But he was off the chiefs at that time but they still had him in the locker room so a rating around with everybody else is classic moment. That's up there on Youtube. A Classic Professional National Wrestler. The Big Cat Ernie ladd. But we'll take it back to to modern times here a little bit more on the Royal Rumble. PW insider has reported the Gender Mahal in the velveteen dream are scheduled to be flown into Houston next weekend. No other details were given there. It would make sense. Is that both men. I believe gingers out for a while with an injury and obviously velveteen has as well too could see both of them ending up in the rumble. I mean there's a lot of things you can do. Velveteen Dream I'm not sure if I necessarily WANNA see him up on the roster right now. I think that's something that maybe they could wait until after wrestlemainia but if they want him. There's a part of Wrestlemainia. You gotta bring him back and he is a hell of a character and he is somebody that is going to be on that main roster sooner rather than later I hope they have a really good plan for him. I really do if it was all up to triple H. I would believe in in a lot more. But it's not Super Vincent. It's up to a lot of other people and we see how they've had had people like your Bailey's some others you think are just. They can't Miss Right. There's no way they can mess them up and then it ends up happening. Velveteen dream will make a lots of people feel some kind of way if they end up screwing something up with him but the insiders reported both he and Gender Mahal scheduled scheduled to be in Houston next weekend for the Royal Rumble. After see what happens there Who knows maybe they could cut something in this week on TV? Be announcing it We'll have to see what happens speaking of announcements to move from Royal Rumble Two wrestlemainia weekend ring of honor which surprised me initially by announcing that they were going to do a super card of honor. Fourteen this year in down in Florida Wrestlemainia in Lakeland. Just because you know not that. I expect everyone to bail on Wrestlemainia weekend this year. But I mean it's tough and it's expensive to run shows and you have the show with all the competition down there do you. Have you know what what's the show. That's going to try to put people in the seats and and to try to get eyeballs into to to really be something special. Well our wage decided we're going to go with the new Japan approach to make things special the same way that they did last wrestlemainia weakened he can Madison Square Garden and the Super Card of honor. Fourteen show is shaping up as really a a new Japan hybrid show. It's just like you. No New Japan adjacent is most recently. tigerish amaury was announced an issue where he comes off losing the GP junior tag titles titles on January fourth alongside El Fantasma. Oh who was also going to be coming to our. Oh On wrestlemainia weekend. They've also announced a former W. G- heavyweight champion. Jay White is going to be there as well too. So there's three members of the the bullet four members of the ball club we include Kenta also making his first appearance. Since August of two thousand and nine he worked H on. HDTV tapings defeating. Chris hero eighteen but Daniel Brian and roderick strong to defeat Chris Hero in the American wolves so he is going to be there as well too. They've also will spray. Jeff Cobb who is a new you Japan regular. WHO's not currently under a standard contract? He comes and goes when he pleases Villain Enterprises. All four members have been announced the show the governor bills or I'm not even sure what they're calling. It's not it's not loss and governor novelists anymore right that they've decided to switch up the name a little bit regardless Silas Dragon Rouge Kenny King. Amy Rose Jay Lethal Session Mouth Martina and selects. Have all been announced for the show so H I'm sure they're going to announce more new Japan. Guys there are guys who like Zack. Sabre Junior and Shingo. Who are already going to be the in town for Russell Con Both of those guys. Who could be on the super show on Thursday? I know there's you know there's shows all weekend long so there's going to be other people from New Japan who are going going to be there. I'm curious as to if they have a plan already. And they're slowly rolling out names or how exactly this is working but The way shaping up. It's going to be quite interesting and it's GonNa be it's GonNa be crazy to see kanter back in a ring of honor Ring again the only losses he's ever had in ring of honor and he's made made like fifteen or sixteen appearances two title matches the Danielson and Mcguinness and then a title lost and Misao was so you know can't Mr Fuji at a time. where I always thought they should be getting pushed a lot better? A Noah would always come over to America in just you know. Knock everybody's socks off. There's a bullet Club Beach Party as well to that day in Tampa with Tama Tonga. Tangle that hold the Tongan crew. They're not sure if endzone worry would WANNA show up for that he intended the Tonga's still going back and forth now. Tama Tonga challenging him to fight anyplace anytime anywhere under any roles as long as all all the money goes to charity. The people pick the charity naturally. Feel about that but We'll talk about charity. The decision to make Donald Surani. The opponent for Conor McGregor was charity. And that's really insulting to Dan adults around me. I know I know I know it was really more of a Oscar Day lawyer. Toro Gotti situation of a big Arturo Gatti Fan to the point where almost named my son. Arturo Thunder Gotti Semper V.. Those the absolute truth but you know Gotti auty Back in two thousand one fought. Oscar de la. Hoya is Deloitte was trying to get away for a while from Shane. Mosley was moving up from one. Forty seven to one fifty four. And he went out there and faced Arturo Gatti and got. He was just completely over matched she was knocked out in five rounds he was rocked one of the things that he would always do when he fought at one. Thirty one thirty eighty five is he'd put on like fifteen sixteen twenty pounds after the way and didn't have the ability to do that with Delahoya who you know swelled up too much bigger than and he did and he absolutely rocked him. It's kind of the feeling I got last night. In as the matchup was announced between Conor McGregor and todd ceremony there were other people that could probably probably give communist CONOR McGregor better challenges. You know whether it be horry mass foot all or just enga- CI was was one of the people that know people talk about a lot of people. Hey Connor He's not fighting. Anybody kills her Oni. But that's what this whole fight was to do is to get him back on the horse again after not fighting and four hundred sixty nine days you you know now winning it over three years in May fight you know they. They wanted to to get him back out there and you know a big fight against a big name. That if he lost wouldn't really really lose a whole lot except for more brain cells of course With Sironi so it was really a win all the way around for the UFC but it was not a a great fight. I I don't think I've ever seen a fight with four consecutive shoulder. Bumps Breaks Man's knows. I know that was the first for me and CONOR McGregor went out. There hurt Donald Sironi with everything. He touched him with. Probably a nine hundred twenty shots. I can't remember what it was. I think Surani it gets credit for throwing one missing it and that was it forty seconds. That's it that's all conor McGregor wins the fight and everything went the way I probably should have in the way. It definitely should have if you're a fan of the UFC or a nor member of the UFC sets sets up a bunch of different flights. Dana White was talking about afterwards about doing in in. Vivo no no. Thank you Habib in Tony Ferguson. I WANNA see and I want to see what happens in that flight because I like those guys so much might WanNa see a rematch. You know right away so oh I want to see what happens there. You know. Connor facing the winner of that fight is always there in the distance. I think the flight to make would be connor where he masked at all I mean what else would you be waiting for. Why else what other? Why would you not wanna make connor and muscle other than you think with all is going to out strike connors going to hang in there and he's going to beat them and you don't want that to happen? I I just even then I mean it it still a stylistically. Even though it's a it's a rough matchup it's still not like you. Kabaeva Wrestling Yo. Habib's wrestling skills in connor again. You know it's still it's just I don't know key to connor and Moskva all do the for the title. All in all the bells and whistles around that you need big fights you know and you got a big roster and you have few stars and you need if you're UFC. And I hate to say this because his fans as we don't need this we don't need boxing style shows you know but that's what the UFC is giving you an at times like this where they have one guy that they know can draw. You know what they need is to to have fights where connor is carrying the entire show and one fight is carrying the entire show. And there's a bunch of other people on the UNDERCARD. They hopefully that they're trying to get over and I don't know if they did that last night. I don't think that was the case whatsoever. You know you have holly home in a Raquel Pennington Holly home home outside and I like Holly Hamas boxer. I picked her to be Ronda Rousey you know. I was hopeful for her anime career. But the reality of the situation is you know except for that flight for the most part with Rhonda Rousey. She has not been impressive. I mean look at member. The two fights before Rondo shaking like a leaf. You know to the point where people were wanting like you know really really seriously. We're going to put holly home in the Ring Ronda Rousey and then things went that the way they did and she caught Rhonda Perfect Point Ronn his life and career. But you know Holly Home and Raquel Kelp Pennington should not have been the semi main event on that show and I I'm a big Alexa Grasso Fan but like you know having Grasso on that show losing that fight against Claudia Goodell. I mean it was a cool fight but it's not like that was a a pay per view main card fight when there's so little else on it Alexi all neck who was Alexi only is the most pride guy that never fought in pride like we talked about make the joke. Pride never die like he is pride fighting championships tips. And he has never fought and financial Egypt's he's fought in Votaw G- he's fought everywhere else but he's never fought in pride and never obviously will fight in pride. It's just one of those weird things in as much as I like seeing him. You know again. He's probably going to submit some impressive fashion but people like knockouts on main cards the heavyweights when you have a card that so thin as much as I like only on it as much as like seeing him as one of the fights on the main card would have also liked to to see somebody with some knockout power there. Because if you can't give me some great matchups at least give me like you know the specter of violence and the thought of the big knockout in that wasn't on the this show and they need to if they're going to do a conor McGregor Moskva all flight and how they need to look at a lot of these fights now that our all backup the sixty four ninety ninety nine now since the five dollar discount from ESPN plus has gone is to make sure that you get some people on here. That people WANNA see. Unfortunately macy Barbara was one of those people. She got hurt last night. She's out but you gotta try to push them stars and you got to do something to like. Sweet knee shows up especially at sixty five bucks when we get back from break like semper vivey wrestling privilege. This is your money and someone wants to take it from you. Who is it the I. R. S.? They want your money and guess what what they can legally take it all of it if they want remember. They sent you that letter that said. 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Her newest member of the nightmare collective in eighty w alongside brand new roads. Dr Luther teamed with Steve Gillespie As Dr Hannibal over for in Frontier Martial arts over in Japan it is very likely and I'm sure we will hear of this on the cruise this week and and possibly from land storm as well. The two If Gillespie had any hand in their training in the same way that Dr Luther did it is very likely that he did Some other notes as as well too so van Grenada has told. TV sports that he has been hired on by WWe to be an agent. Alise swick debuted as a backstage interviewer interviewer on smackdown. The name of alise Ashton Carry Sane has returned she returned to the wwe. How show in Lafayette Louisiana on Friday? Friday night I believe it was teaming up with Oscar and Sarah Logan in a losing effort against Becky Lynch Charlotte flare in Italia. 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Nothing's GonNa Nothing's GonNa go down What is preparing to to occur? Apparently a massive protest Some sort of enormous as being described at the Greenwich time at Greenwich Time. dotcom out of Richmond Virginia. The story massive assive enormous gun rights rally scheduled for tomorrow. The convoys militias are coming if social media posts are to be believed headed. Virginia's capital on Monday to take a stand for gun rights or in the words much social media posts. Can you believe because there was supposed to be a big rate of area fifty one. That didn't really play out too. Well did million. Oh you people into the desert and now we listen. Show say there and talk about it beyond just clicking attend year not too many I mean there were I some people who actually did go out to that thing but not very many of them. How many people actually talked about it versus just looking at the? RSVP list isn't really retelling of anything. Did I didn't see anybody saying they were going to do. Our edged said he was going to go air force was taking it seriously. Yeah they were they they take it seriously get it a day off today could Play video games and drink coffee and get paid point just because somebody says on the Internet and they're going to do do a thing doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to do a thing now arguably the area fifty one thing even though it did blow up and go. Viral seemed seemed more like a joke than this does like seems like people are upset and reasonably so very reasonably so gun rights are going to be trampled. Hold likely in Virginia. What would the governor now? A Democrat and Democrats in control of the State House there. That's what has gun owners understandably concerned that something bad is going to happen. In fact they've already. I believe introduced multiple. Really awful pieces of gun control at Sleigh Shen in Virginia and that is what has led to these protests of course as we reported late last week the governor has declared a state of emergency that applies to the state capital downtown downtown or whatever capital area is and they're basically going to forbid people from carrying any guns good luck in those areas well and that's the question and how are they going to enforce that with guns. Well obviously but how are they going to catch people. Are they going to be like New York City on Times Times Square New Year's here's eve where they have checkpoints okay in order to get to the place where people are going to gather that police sort of setup chokepoints around the area they have that. Aren't they setting up like the chorale cages. I don't know maybe I have not looked in great detail as to what's going on. Have you is what you've heard going on by. I've seen articles where there were. They're setting up the protest zone. Yep and it's you know fenced off area chokepoint are totally if you want to protest. Go in here right. And so they could they could restrict people coming going and there was also concern that that would set off What's what's with the when the when the feds start the violence agents provocateurs? They're they're concerned that an agent provocateur will start the violence within the confines. You're right and then they're easy targets from the snipers posted on the roof because trying to corral cage you could just have unstable ANTIFA member and you know I mean you probably will well. They're gonNa March with the gun rights people. So that's another ANTIFA ANTIFA GONNA go with the gun rights people. I'm pretty sure they're out there. They're going to go and that doesn't mean there with the gun rights people going your favorite them. They're physically in the same location right so they know more here from Greenwich time this is. Let's see some people are saying. It could be fanning the flames flames of a civil war. Between who got rich people. And those who WanNa take away your liberties well I mean. Is it really a civil war. If you're fighting the government I don't know is that a civil war if there are citizens on the side of the Yes okay. Well he says a Christian ying-ling the head of the Pennsylvania lightfoot militia and leader of the unite the right rally in Charlottesville in two thousand seventeen said. I'll be rolling into town early. I can't give you my exact time for security reasons. I organized a convoy places as we can meet up and drive together. I'll be heading. It said another militia activist in Oklahoma. Both Lee and Giggling remembers a group that signed consent degrees never to return to Charlottesville while armed part of a lawsuit settlement over the violence there but there is no restriction against coming to richmond boy a lawsuit suit settlements or a plea deal because says a lawsuit settlement. Yeah that doesn't make any sense because it so if I so what are you can sign a contract with me. Saying they won't bring guns in. Virginia they can still bring guns in Virginia though Charlottesville specifically though there were there were criminal cases in Charlottesville and there were civil cases. Also so if you're saying with the lawsuit doesn't accomplish that unless it's AGGRIPA. It doesn't matter. It's still doesn't make it illegal for you to do that. would be a violation of you the court order in that case you would say okay in order to settle this case will agree not to come back to Charlottesville with guns. Though it'd be part of the terms of the agreement the settlement but it's a settlement with a private party right. I don't know we don't know what case they're referring to the state like worst case scenario it's contempt of court charge. It's not a gun charge. Yeah but there's still penalties associated with that whether or not be so related story here according to e tours in our discord chat. He posted a article from National Review. ANTIFA group to March with pro-gun protesters and Virginia Rally ANTIFA groups of course most famous for sometimes violent protests against right wing groups the Richmond based ANTIFA seven hills joining in support of gun rights seven hills spokesperson. James don't have a last name told vice quote I think it's been pretty important Jordan for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement like taking guns away from black people because black people were perceived as a threat to property pretty and the sanctity of the states. Then he's just it's the fascist in charge He's not wrong about that Several leftist groups have formed in response to the election of president trump including the redneck revolt. Which you've talked about here on free talk? Live you familiar with redneck revolt. I have not heard about the radical. It's a group of kind of you know Blue Collar Democrats okay gun owning blue collar. Democrats essentially sort of union worker. Type folks who you know. There's there's also apparently the socialist rifle association which was formed in two thousand eighteen and has chapters in all fifty states vice. James the ANTIFA spokesperson said. I think it's what's particular about the south as you have to be a bit more creative and sensitive to the people around us instead of a filling. Some sort of meam of what ANTIFA is there. It's it's really what we're trying to work against right now especially by talking to conservatives and showing we're not just a black clad group of rabble rousers who are out for attention and have jobs funded by George Soros he added the presence of an armed left is not discussed. It's not understood but apparently it will be happening tomorrow. I struggle with this whole all scenario in my head because we're always looking for peaceful solutions to problems right like I am. Yeah that's it should always be the goal and yet deep down. I firmly believe that violence is always the answer. Even if it's the final answer that everyone's trying to avoid I'm realistic about that. I don't see I. I can't envision called me UNCREATIVE UN-IMAGINATIVE I don't see a situation where where the government continues to push to take away gun rights And it doesn't end up violent somewhere down the line. Probably I'll be right. There's going to be violence. The question is when how and against too so even if everybody right now stood down and just let the government do it then. That's going going to cause private-sector violence because then everybody's going to be unarmed right so no matter what they're so non violent option to most host government questions so so now would be a good time to stand up for your right to remain arm to protect yourself privately. Even if that means you're going we do have to be violent against the government. Otherwise you lose. There's no point yeah I mean as somebody who supports piece. I can't mm say violence is going to accomplish what goal you're looking at. But if the other on the other hand I don't think you're I don't think you're wrong for for considering it. I'm not advocating it. I just ah I need someone to like. form the picture in my head that shows a peaceful resolution. Good the toll. Free Number is eight five five four fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. Well whatever's going to happen. It probably isn't going to be peaceful. Tomorrows my guests. 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Right if you're supposed to be representing your constituents isn't that evidence of the constituents demanding their voice be heard prior to the violence by going like you you obviously don't have a mandate from the people from the counties from the citizens thanks quote unquote of and yet they're going to try to smash this through anyway. In facing protests well get a look at it from the perspective of the politicians Titians. Let me the politician says people voted for me. That's a mandate on whatever I WANNA do and the people who are pushing back against it are the sheriff's right. There's a group of Sheriff's ninety five percent of them or whatever that have done as you said they've created the sanctuary policy of saying essentially that. Well well if you try to confiscate people's guns we're GonNa pose you. We're not go along with this in some way shape or form and I believe the Virginia government came back with some sort of attack back against the sheriff's basically threatening their jobs essentially if they if they didn't enforce the law so I mean it's just it's kind of turned into this political football thing I mean the state reps will say well if they didn't want my gun control measures they shouldn't have voted for me. Okay now of course you could argue that. There's a bunch. The people who probably didn't vote. Who are going to be mad about this right? 'cause there's likely any given election probably about half of the people who are eligible to vote. Don't vote whether registered or not is another question but there's a good chunk of people who are registered that don't vote and then there's other people who aren't registered at all who obviously don't vote. I would like to you know what all those politicians like. What their campaign was ran on them because if they ran on control gun control? And we're GONNA take all your guns away and you know and then still got voted in and then I would like where's the counter protests then of all the people that did vote them in. You know coming out with no guns right. We support well. I'm going to the people who don't have any guns aren't gonNA come protest against Gun owners right. That'd be done. They're probably afraid as well as the crash though right so you know this is what you get you should know. This is not a surprise and they they were really the sacrifice under things for that or are they wanted it so I mean this is what you get. The Democrats are going to counter that real quick. Only because you generally you're right but Democrats are typically associated with the left so was Antifa that's right and and you have a selection of Antifa who are pro gun by Anti Anti Democrat but definitely on the side of gun. Right's right right. But otherwise what advice for a Democrat. Otherwise would have voted for a Democrat more unstable elements of your street level. People are not representative of the political class. Okay so so it has nothing to do with someone who's running for office is immigrant. Well they're the ones that are getting voted in. You're saying that if you vote for Democrat you can expect this voting Antifa and he is not on the palate but they're both associated with what you would consider left his pulse but one of them is actually running for the long run for office okay. I didn't say if you pick a random Democrat off the street and I don't know that I think ANTIFA might be insulted by being called a Democrat. I don't know I don't think they. They didn't find that way. A Democrat if you elect a Democrat. That means a running for office right. This is what you're going to get so Stephen Beast East in our d d live. Chat Room says calling Democrats left wing is hilarious. What else should we call them? I don't know I I would call them left wing. Yeah I mean in modern and in modern American politics. That's the left wing. He also says twenty twenty year that will unite left and right lie have him call in because yeah I'd love to hear more about that. The toll free number here is eight fifty five four fifty free now. I mean look. Some people can Dan worked together. Obviously the N. T. folks are willing to come out and stand on the side Same side as the right wing gun owners tomorrow in in Virginia but on one is one issue issue. That doesn't mean they're united in any meaningful fashion was that you're still gonNA fight the other. Yeah Yeah Yeah right right. They're gonNA probably argue about other things while they're standing there in favor of gun rights and there may actually be if you know fractious of some sort between them who knows I would hope not. I would hope not as well but you know people get a little Yeah they get a little emotional over things like this and tensions and focus on the common enemy enemy in this case. Maybe that's what he's hoping for. Maybe he's hoping that in two thousand twenty people will finally see that the Republican Democrats not much of a dimes worth of a difference between them and uh and that they are the common enemy that the state the people who believe in the state these. I've I've kind of been calling recently. State violent state cultists these because they both the State is occult right like it. Well I mean it's big enough to not be a cult. It's like an evil church. You know. Basically and it justifies using violence against peaceful people. And it's it needs to end end. Unfortunately I don't think we're anywhere near that as much as I would love to see twenty twenty being the year that people can see clearly. What's going on I? I don't think so. Yeah not not not too far away not a chance. In fact there's there's more of a division now than there's ever been I would say between Republicans and Democrats of the left and the writer or whatever there's more you're from Greenwich Times are Greenwich Time Dotcom so Donald Trump apparently has now weighed in as a Friday afternoon. Saying in a tweet. Of course I hear a second amendment is under very serious attack in the Commonwealth of Virginia. That's what happens when you vote for Democrats they'll take your guns away. Unlike me took your bump stocks away I added did that last night but I think it's important to remind people out there that Donald trump by no means is some sort of stalwart defender of gun freedom. Well but if it's the the second amendment he should be because that's he's obviously talking about the federal constitution right and and is is he not under oath to swear to uphold the constitution of the United States. Maybe he is and maybe that's why he would say well. Yeah defend right to bear arms but not bump stocks. You can't have those okay. But what I'm saying is he should he should go. There aren't should find a way to defend the second amendment against those trying to you know try to infringe upon the toll free number. Well he is he's tweeting. Eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five. I four five zero three seven three. You can bring up whatever you want if you're in Virginia and you're going to tend this tomorrow we want to hear from you. The next generation wallet is coming from Divvy in. Just just a few taps you'll be able to send earn spend an exchange digital money in seconds. Send money around the globe. Only swipe instantly exchange between Divvy Bitcoin coin and Fiat right in the mobile APP and withdrawal directly to your bank account. Divvy already offers the first one tap solution for earning passive income with Crypto multi-tiered multi-tiered master notes allow everyone to partake in the network. 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Who goes in and makes a bunch of noise or starts a fighter or whatever within a group of gun owners in the hopes that that will start shooting your But then again if they are checking people for weapons at the front and there's probably it's probably not likely that the owners will actually have been able to successfully get too many guns Into the protest zone while you suggested it might not even be an agent provocateur. If ANTIFA is marching with you know conse- Conservative gun rights groups could just be a fight not see an over something completely unrelated later could be that sparks so we'll see. Donald trump weighed in saying that Democrats will take your guns away. Republicans Will Win Virginia in twenty twenty. He Says S.. Thank you. Dem's give the guns back. Well good question. Usually when government takes power. It doesn't just seat it back in Enos cases but certainly that's what they would run on and then of course if they didn't get the comes back then what then. What am I gonNA wait for the next election and you vote the vote other ones in? Yeah Yeah and that's where you're showing your frustration with this whole process of you know earlier. You were commenting that you think. Eventually this is gonNA come to violence. I don't I I would like to be convinced. The other ways But generally speaking right when you have one group of people looking to disarm you right when the government is looking to take your guns away every every Every constellation that you give to them you know automatic weapons you go all right bump stocks all right here here. We go all right magazine capacity here we go right. At what point do you either. Give up the fight and say we're an unarmed society because if every stage you're just going to give in and coalesce to their demands right you're either going to end up armed permanently anyway or it's GonNa come down the violence and if it's GonNa come down to violence you should probably have your automatic weapons with high capacity magazines In hand before they disarm you to the point point where it's nearly impossible to fight back. Yeah I mean I as somebody who it's frustrating for me too because you know somebody who supports gun rights and you're right to defend yourself. I'm also somebody who is a peace advocate and I don't think violence is ultimately the solution. I don't think violence makes things is better but on the other hand I mean I can't deny what you're saying is absolutely true and but then again you also have the tough question of when they come for for your guns and they haven't yet but when they you know in Virginia when they come for your guns they come knock on your door. You don't have ten thousand of your buddies hanging out there with you right right. It's just you and your family or whoever it is it's living with you and there's maybe ten cops or whatever however many they're sending on these door the door squads. What do you do that? Do you just go down blazing and ended up dying in that particular instance while fully in the hope that other people will be willing to do the same thing and that those incidents will dissuade the police from continuing their door to door campaign. I don't think you have to go down. Guns a blazing on your own own but this is why it would be important to organize outta militia level right then do what attack. The police stations not necessarily attack but once once once one of your members right has their guns confiscated and he can let those go right go to the militia depot rearm. And then you know that they're coming for the guns then you can go on the offense ten. Okay okay. That's interesting because at that point. They're like shots. Shots fired Taken a gun. They've taken a gun now. Let's now we. We need to defend that. Like say you know you can't invade America because there's a gun in every house and the community will come together right. That would be the time for the community to come together together and stand up against those ten or however many door knockers are confiscating people's line in the sand in a couple of people a proven that recently by doing just that they're like we're here to take your guns and he's like no. You're not where we what where does happen. Seven handful of times over in the past year two years where what are we talking about whereas this somewhere in the. US was shooting. I mean how did that go. They usually die live. But that's what I'm saying. That's what you gotta plan to avoid the the dying where you said they could just turn the gun in on that initial confiscation alert alert the the rest of the crew and then they could. What zero in on the police station and demand the guns back? Either that or you know be you ready for when the next one comes right house number two where the next house is. That's true but you know the police. Do you know where the police are there. which is part Lord of why the I'm never going to use something? Use any defensive force. That's not just imminent defense is a a horrible horrible overarching strategy Even though it's not a horrible strategy in every single instance well right. So what you're talking about is this. This is war. Basically is what you're describing here for a long while but sure. But this is what he's describing is the next next step in you then target the enemy's headquarters or their outpost or whatever we'll have to otherwise they will go to order go in mass and now of course you're going to call the state police or they're they're gonNA call they're going to be like. Oh my God you know assault on precinct. Thirteen were being We're being attacked. They'RE GONNA call in the backup. The nearby police departments will respond spawned. Either way. You're you're GONNA it's a mess this is going to be people dying absolutely. There's just no it doesn't seem like dying regardless like no people. Dying lying is not an option. That's on the table. If they decide they want to take your only way to defend yourself and your only way to discourage them from attacking you so much away from you you know one dying is not an option you have right so you I mean you could just forget about that because it's not a real option. Your options are Godi Godi slow and Organiz against them. I the that's what you have. So they doing the right thing by having this massive protests in Virginia Kenya or is it you know if the protests stays peaceful and they can swayed the governor and the legislature from like passing the the gun bans. Then sure it's a it's a nice way to have your voice heard right petitioning for redress In some form or fashion forest because the individual cops don't want to vigil cops don't WanNa get government. Might not care if there's a shootout between the people in the police but the individual cops it's like hey you might want to think twice about this and I think that's the goal of a lot of people toll free number tonight. Eight fifty five four fifty free read. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. The governor declared a state of emergency in issued a ban on firearms or other weapons. So because you can't even have a knife on capitol grounds. The State Supreme Court upheld that ban after challenged by two gun rights groups Federal Aviation. Because again state of emergency. You can do anything you want. No more constitution doesn't matter martial law curfews what's next and that should also be a heads up to people like. Hey if all that it takes to abolish your right to bear arms. Is this governor guy just waving his pen and saying state of emergency and that gives them the right to completely ban guns within some arbitrary cherry however many square mile radius. Then that should be a wakeup call from people and hopefully it is right. Hopefully doesn't get violent. Hopefully it's a wakeup call that yes yes they can do it yes they are doing it and now what are you going to do. 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We're not we're not going anywhere but there's a lot of people who are gearing up for a massive protest tomorrow both the protesters and the police with huge numbers expected on both sides. Apparently road closures are expected. Extensive police presence state and federal officials are are preparing for a volatile mix of weapons passions and anti-government fervor. The governor has restricted the airspace and has declared a state of emergency urgency and has banned firearms or other weapons on capitol grounds on Thursday the FBI arrested three alleged members of a white supremacist group on gun charges in part of concern or out of concern that they plan to attend the Richmond Rally and incite violence so again. They're already creating a narrative errative here absolutely thaw see. There's not season that they're crowded. They're gonNA start something so therefore we need to make sure there's no rights and they've already arrested people instead. That's not a good sign. That does not bode well for what's going to happen tomorrow. We've seen a lot of evidence in the past at various different rallies of different sorts. Where government agents will dress as though they are a protester call them agents provocateur and the boots? That's one tip then. Sunday unaided probably heard that one by now. Maybe they've learned their lesson But you know cops also have a certain look to them some of them. Do I mean solar good at blending in but others others. It's hard to lose that much muscle mass off of steroids in that short usually tell but sometimes they have cops like ups. Let's go to your calls and thoughts here. We got Dan in Virginia. You're on free talk. Live he's listening to. W N I S in Norfolk. Go ahead Dan Dan Virginia tonight go ahead. Yeah and Virginia and and listen you guys talk tonight Still Oh debating on whether to go up tomorrow or tonight and say if you do they may be out of the entire issue is created issue that is putting a lot of people at risk. It's potentially Ghana light off a big fight and I was out today. Was My single shot. Twenty gauge shotgun. It's far more lethal than Dan and they are fifteen and I can. I can get off shots just about as fast and you know getting hit with book shot Rather than a one twenty two caliber round as a lot more lethal. So you know it's ignorant behind a lot of this well the gun grammars might also say that that's a good reason to take away the Ar fifteen though because you still you'll have that twelve gauge buckshot. That can do the damage anyway. Well now. What are they proposing exactly to do? I mean I've heard. There are multiple bills to restrict gun rights in Virginia. I mean have there been proposals to take away all guns or is it just the so-called assault rifle. Ar Fifteen kinds. Well what they are doing that is guests. The what a Lotta people call the black guns the ones that look scary like they are fifteen right And then they're going after magazines magazine capacity but they've got wording At the very end of the bills say or any firearm capable of accepting such a magazine. And so that gets into all of your glocks and six and just a huge number of the to carry guns. Nowadays neuropathy magazine Extends Beyond Cry Right. Even though you don't you know maybe you you. You've gone down to seven around or something like the guy in Virginia beach used. I was there that night and he used forty five caliber caliber handguns with a seven round magazine and killed twelve No and and I was down there looking for a college intern that Actually the guy walked right up and stared him in the face and then walked off. And and you know in Virginia Beach didn't tell the truth about it. That guy had had a lot of physical altercations and was on the road the being fired and so You know it's just so much fraud in politics now. Well it's always. Yeah Yeah Yeah I just. I don't know it on the gun issue You look at the shootings Sandy Hook a number of them around and the ratio's usually three killed seven wounded. And then you look at the Washington Navy Yard where use a twelve twelve gauge pump with buckshot. Seven killed two three one. And so you know. There's there's no meat behind this. There's no intelligent Thought or science behind it and I know a lot of cops and I know a lot of cops have said I am not GonNa do this. I will quit my job and go work for a sheriff's department with they're going to have the opportunity to prove that tomorrow Oro Right if the cops man the demand the checkpoints. Yeah well. They didn't say they wanted man the checkpoints. I just said they confiscate guns right right right Ondo State trooper. I know told me that I retired. Marine down in Emporia had talked to a trooper. Sergeant Tire Marine just lost his son. He said I got nothing else to live for. So you know leaving friends a long time. Don't come don't come to my house. 'cause one obviously didn't come it and going away vertical. Well he's a state trooper. They're not gonNA take take his gun from him. Not a retired marine was talking to the trooper home. I'm sorry giving warning up front. Don't even consider this and interesting. I I think that probably I dunno around around. Eighty percent of the troopers would not want to do it just on ethical reasons alone. And there's all the safety reasons Most of the guns that people used for hunting will blow right through two or three of their vests so they really have no protection and and if somebody is waiting for them and it's set up you know back in the back yard or And in a place where they don't expect him in there they all show up and want to break in and confiscate Yes the police or the the ones I feel for. This governor got himself in trouble by talking about killing babies after after birth and then having his little clan photograph and the stuff being command on his BMI senior in your page of the annual and so he was pretty much finished and and Bloomberg comes in and says I'M GONNA ship money to see Ya and we get this wave of Democrats and and I heard you talking earlier about the people should expect this and obviously obviously no. The people did not expect this. That people were asleep. Do see a political solution out of this aside from just voting for the next round of politicians to take that out. Is it possible that the governor back down at some point I think he. He's got nothing to lose. I mean he's already in office. I mean he could lose the next reelection but beyond that I mean if if if he sticks with this there's no real punishment to him he's just well that is the punishment issue right. You won't get reelected so unless he's up at a term limits. Yeah I don't know if they even have turned that would billy disincentive to him. Dan let us know if you decide to attend tomorrow or you know calls tomorrow. I I know we're not on the air there on Monday nights. But we're still here. We're still doing a show every single day so feel free to call in with your opinions tomorrow. I appreciate hearing from you tonight. That Stan in Virginia Open phones as always you can join us here. Eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom talking about the gun situation. 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It's Ian Ritchie Rich Let's go back to your phone calls and thoughts here. We do have bill on the line with us in Richmond. Virginia which is where this conflict is expected. Tomorrow and Bill. You're somehow listening to W NIS in Norfolk. Is that anywhere near Richmond. I don't know my geography in Virginia. Can you very well. But it's an hour and twenty minutes on. I lived on the North Korea. I actually work up in Richmond. I'm actually a PD at a radio station In Richmond that does not carry free talk yet but I'm working on back I've I've got on my dad's from around here Wanted to answer the last caller real quick the Virginia Governor Ralph. We like to call him Ralph Mandy North because of his black face performances but They are limited to one term at a time but he has nothing to worry and and we're already acting Yup We're already expecting us in therapy. Lieutenant Governor that been accused by about fifteen women affects all adult. He's probably going to be your next governor here in the proud Commonwealth We are we. I was calling to let you know we've been asking I do. Not what go down tomorrow. they are expecting when we are still thousands and thousands of people from all over the country. So we've been asking people don't make it worse dove naked more congested and don't add to the tension I am not a conspiracy guy however there there are some times that you guys know that you just know a false flag in the wind and part of me my gut. Maybe as a thirty one year journalists. I just feel like something's going to happen tomorrow And I the only speaking Something will happen tomorrow for the far left it would be a paradise for the far list if something did go wrong tomorrow. I like to remind People Charlottesville Virginia With everyone likes to point out quote what happened in Charlotte Hill aside from the idiot with the car running over the girl but he fights that broke out in Charlottesville started by ANTIFA Bought and paid for by our Buddy George Soros that was not any pro-constitution fight that broke out. That guys were they're opposing because But I say all that to say if anyone in Richmond. Virginia is listening at home. It's not worth it. Don't be a part of it It is ideal for the far left and we had by the way not set draw. I know you're limited time trying to get everything. We had an the exact same rally in December Phil I God. Forgive me feel filled influence. I think is his name and organizing these things. I've I have never met him. He's very active. In Virginia politics. Phil had a rally similar to this. About three hundred people showed up in the rain. By the way which marine bringing I would bear on behalf of basin with a couple of our news guys the cover of the event Scattered police presence scattered. Nothing major The capital of course were there You know some of the Richmond locos were there all of the radio. TV newspapers where. They're nothing happened. They were the problem Now processors can have the kind of build up though like this one does not which kinda wonder what's different about this uh-huh that's that's what's in the back of my head. I'm wire wireless hollywood-style dramatic build-up is of the nation and all over sudden on Richmond. Virginia were because this is a test case. It's a test case exactly and forbid sides. Yup what is the best time to put all of your car bill debatable. And pull that out of your other van win the entire nation to watch so so when you say like people shouldn't go down there how else like what's what's a better methodology to like voice their discontent or to demonstrate their discontent to what the governor and the politicians there are doing. The governor's house okay. You still got to go out and do something day I i. Don't have an issue into the governor's house oddly. Never invite they. Don't understand the problem GONNA sit down for dinner with them but one of the things that mistakes I think they're making here is by telegraphing their moves so far in advance in so loudly. If you could get a hundred people quietly to just show up at the governor's mansion or wherever it is that he lives because like in some states. Here in New Hampshire. The governor doesn't actually live at like some state place that just letting their house right. Is it that way in. Virginia governor like live in a state mansion or is the governor just kind of live wherever he lives. There is a governor's mansion. They are allowed of coast. Live wherever they like. I would assume Ralph mammy north. Them likes to live in the governor's mansion because that kind of a guy sure That would be the first sustained up in a room and probably announced that he is the governor their best to answer the question. What can people do? You know the problem here. Turnover of one hundred nineteen and God knows I was on the air covering this debacle that took place on election day but and let me preface by saying I. I have a sticker in my office but very probably the. I wasn't born Democrat Republican or yesterday so I have a dog in the race and I like my freedom. I don't own a gun by the way but if I want to buy one I'd like the honor of doing Less than thirty eight percent of all turned out and continue on on November number of point. Nine percent of registered voters or thirty eight percent of the population. Thirty eight percent of registered. Boehner by the way is way too. Hello for sure no I and you know I I've always said and I'm I'm sure I stole this from somebody as all of us Radio Info and everything from somebody in the past bad bad government are elected part stupid people who don't vote and that's what happens man man. I mean even if bunch of elected or even a bunch of smart people go out and vote. They're usually voting for a bunch of scumbags who are GONNA give you bad government anyway. You know the sad thing. He is The system we have the system we have. We are nowhere near changing the system. We are nowhere near a multi-party system and unfortunately in my humble opinion We have to work with what we have and I have always been a person who voted for the individual rather than the part. I enjoy your show for example. I don't agree with one hundred percent with everything guys talk. We wouldn't have anything to talk about. That's what I tell people. I do have Richmond and I say if you agree with me God please. Don't call me number one if you agree with me. It'll be bored number number two. You think like I you. Obviously you shouldn't be allowed to communicate with other people. Plan your station man. What station do you program slash forget we are ninety nine point seven? FM AND AM We are a ten thousand watt clear station. We can be heard from Richmond. All the way down into Norfolk Virginia Beach and If I ever get around to returning the sticky notes that say please call Ian Freeman. The second one says you forgot to call you and free from the third one is from the Assistant Program Director George. Then it says for God's sake call for even well that's very nice bill. Well thank you for finally calling and it was actually really good. Call Man I appreciate it So are you guys GonNa not send anybody tomorrow to cover this. I mean you're telling people not to go that I mean you're stations GonNa not cover it directly I am. I am asking thirteen people that listen to me in the afternoons. Stay home and We are not the new team because I just have a feeling and Sometimes you lanes are right. Sure sure your phones would be open tomorrow. Morrogh afternoon for listeners to call in though if they are they're imagine right and there's GonNa be playing catch otherwise yeah yes and matter of fact I might call you and have you tomorrow afternoon. You never know. That'd be cool. Hey man bill thanks. I appreciate your call tomorrow but all right so your calls thoughts also welcome here toll. Free numbers eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four or five zero three seven three three just to be clear when I call radio stations. I don't bang down their door. He's got three notes from. Oh you know to call me. It's probably been nine months. I don't call but like once a quarter. 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The governor in Virginia has issued a decree banning claiming state of emergency. He's then banning the possession of any kind of weapons in the capital. Whatever that area happens UN's to be and then they're saying well if you're outside of the Capitol area than you should stand with weapons that have Virginia Citizens Defense League? This according coming to Greenwich Time Dotcom a pro gun advocacy group sponsors. What has always been a peaceful rally every year on lobby day? which coincides with the State's Martin Luther King Junior holiday so this is actually actually a regular occurrence okay? This particular event with children out of school and state offices closed. It's time for citizens to come to the capital and lobby lawmakers on a variety Friday of issues but if the lawmakers aren't actually there I've always had this objection like when the four twenty celebrations. We've done here many years in New Hampshire. We've done for more than I think about a decade at this point maybe eleven years ten years something like that and we go to the State House. It's four twenty in the afternoon now a lot of times. A lot of legislators just leaders are gone by then okay but on Saturday or Sunday. They're definitely not there. So you're not really lobbying anybody if you're standing outside of the State House when no one's home. Are you planning on doing it every day in the month of April this year. Now why because it's twenty twenty four. That's too much smoking. Thank for you. Maybe as smoking is too much for me but smoking every day I think our co host. Nobody would actually appreciate that idea. Well run with it here for that. I'm not gonNA spend that kind of time on the expensive. That's a lot of weed. Well you can have like one person Organiz it and then just have different people. Show up and do an event at Melanie just so you know we did do for every day in Keene New Hampshire back in two thousand and nine for nights nights one month is nothing for you. Yeah you know we did. It gets to some extent when it started getting cold it did die off during the wintertime but We you were out there from like September. Probably all the way through November. That's that's a major commitment but we don't have to drive to concord or anything and we were just walking down the OUGHTA have time to do it every day have time to be high afterwards. Every day that much money on most of the people that were attending the four twenty were already doing it inside their homes so they just they just went to another location so tomorrow. Let's get back to your phone calls here. Actually I gram. He's on the line in Pennsylvania listening via the tune in APP. Go ahead Graham Yeah about the Virginia Gun March. They're going to have tomorrow the way I look at it. The whole thing is just a complete waste of time because they government. They're still gonNA past maybe not a law but a regulation or statute anything like that. Uh and besides they don't really have to take your guns. All they would do is freeze. Your Bank account have child protective services kidnapped. Her kids at school. There are other tactics. Yes yeah. They can do a lot of horrifying things to to Peaceful people the fact is then having guns gives them the ability to do easy violence against people and and they to some extent them knowing that the population has guns can keep them to some extent and from stepping over certain boundaries. And you know it's I it's GONNA BE A. It's a tricky situation tomorrow. What are you expecting to happen? Graham you said nothing just a bunch of big noise there may be one or two minor incidence. Hopefully not a major one hopefully mostly standing around now hoping for something major happen so they can put it on. CNN or Fox News or put on a twitter feed or something like that. I mean I don't like the idea that when you said that they can come after your kids or freeze your bank account like who wants to live under that system to begin with right right if they already have that power and they already had that ability at again same question as before. At what point do you go like. That's the line. We're not going to take it. You can freeze as the bank account. You can do what you want. But now we're standing up for freedom. Now we're standing up for liberty and we're not going to let you take the guns regardless of what other law regulation relation you pass because you've already gone too far and now we're now we're now. We're drawing our line in the sand and you will not cross. Yeah that's a good point but I mean it's just a matter of who has the wherewithal who can wait in stand blanks and go home. There's no easy answers to this Graham. Thank you for the call tonight. I appreciate it you know. What if they took somebody's gun? But then they got a ghost gunner and they they built another the one that later had a secret guns because if they know where your guns are they can come take them easily right like if they know if you're on some registry if you have told old government. Hey I'm over here I got guns. Well then they're gonNA they're gonNA come to you at some point if that's what they WANNA do they wanna do door to door. Confiscations are going to go to the houses where they know for sure. There's there's guns I Maybe they'll go door literally and search every home if they really go insane. But if you've got a ghost Garner from defense distributed which they're or not an advertiser but I fully support the thing that they do you can make a gun basically from the associated pieces and there's no serial number attached to it. You just know the problem of if they if they come to your house to get your legal guns right and you give those up and then you pull out the ghost gun. You still outnumbered numbered. Yeah right and if you if you if you're not on the list and you have the ghost governor and you're just like oh I just have a gun in my house and you never have to use it for anything then cool right but the minute you have to draw and defend yourself. You're on the radar. Yeah you you draw against the police. You're on the radar. You know so you. You can't even if you can't even use it to defend yourself without without attracting their attention. Well obviously you're going to attract attention if you not. If you pull a gun on somebody are you gonNa draw some attention from him but if there's no gun if there's no gun ban laws right. That's a legitimate use of self-defense. And legitimate use of a self defense tool right and they have no reason to come and confiscate you or put you on a list. Because that's the freedom you have to defend yourself in which should be you know the United States of America right. You might draw attention but it's not illegal if they ban guns and you draw ghost gun to defend yourself right you have also just broken the law and they will get you for for that. They're gonNA get you if that's what they WANNA do. That much is for sure. Yeah the toll. Free number here is eight fifty five four hundred fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three one of our callers. There's earlier suggesting that some of these cops will not enforce the law. Some one caller predicted as many as eight eighty percents of police would not go along with it. I hope that's true. No way that I. I'm not as optimistic either buzz in new recruits to fill in the spot. Yeah eight fifty five four fifty free. That's the toll free number here and you can share your thoughts. We're live on Sunday night as always this is free talk live. 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We had four deaths from heart attacks. They're trying to prove to you that their drugs safer well if you look at the actual raw numbers numbers. You're talking about a very very small different so this is why you should always look at the raw data rather than statistics. Because they're going to tell you the drug be has a twenty five percent higher rate of heart attack now. Obviously if you saw the numbers yourself you would say big big deal you know maybe maybe grew a heads. Had people that were healthier than group-b maybe the group B. People were healthy. It's just one more person statistically insignificant Traficant absolutely if you look at the numbers they're barely above the statistical rate of zero. You know so. And they do this with everything they do it with climate change. I mean people do it with climate change. People do it with you know sales anything. They're trying to sell you they're gonNA say oh. Well this is twenty five percent better than that. Well if you look at the numbers yields you'll see that the studies that they base all this stuff on if they're outright lion is usually just a stretch a real stretch of of the truth. I mean how many times have we seen it in the world of guns just to come back the topic. We've been discussing tonight. A gun related. Death doesn't mean somebody's been shot. Necessarily the same with a lot of those are cops. Cop Shooting People innocent people. Those are suicides. Almost mostly is a good number of them are suicides and I just saw an article about how in Norway one of the I guess the rated as the happiest country on the planet you know people with the happiest Distance Hi sue cyber they come up with the happiness happiness rating. Yeah they also have the highest suicide rate interesting figure that one out more or less I mean not not how I would go but that's one way to accomplish this right so if the sad people are killing themselves and you have the happiest society. Is that what you're saying Melanie. Is it statistical. That's that's like the Communists they want to. They want to keep the society happy so they solved that problem by killing all the unhappy about it. Thank you gene for the call tonight appreciate hearing from you. Let's go to more of your calls and thoughts. Dave is in Yorktown Virginia. LISTENING TO W. Nis out there Hello Dave Hey how are you doing. You're on the air. Yep Yeah Anyway. I was I heard earlier. You were talking about you. Have the amount of people. The percentage officers possibly wouldn't Do a mandate you know and retaliate thacker. Weapons and stuff and I think the figure was something like eight percent than a couple of guys I've been talking to their own force their way into Dear Constitution United States and not per se the Constitution of Virginia. It's a line on that but they are sworn into the constitution. So when you look at article article six of our Constitution what was the was Word states at any any State Law they pay us. It doesn't directly here to our constitution has no one void so the big thing I think is. They're trying to take that one big step that big leap where or they could take it. Promise or or weapons. And of course you know we see what happened with Venezuela about five years ago before you know they Ended up like they did They took their weapons away. And you see the yeah and you see what's happened to them because once the people are disarmed and of course you know that everything starts going down. Kinda like Wilson Ninety seven. Tony Blair took all the guns way. They're in Great Britain and now Was Ninety seven I think I think they believe it was ninety seven but could could be wrong but it did happen. Yeah Yeah right and so now. They're thinking about pass a law. Where you you can't even have a nice you know because I mean we hear things? He did that in Great Britain now. They're doing that him. You're okay no no no Yeah the Nice thing though but eventually once they outlawed the guns of course. They are going to outlaw the night. Everybody's getting kill with. I've got a headline where there's a new knife manufacturer factor. In Great Britain making square tipped knives. Because you can't have a point there anymore. Oh my God right right. And then it'll be hatchets and big rocks walks like back in the day everybody will get stoned other than to four twenty. Thank y'all come on. I mean let's let's play with data little bit but You know what I kind of see happening up there Richmond. They're trying to ecorse definitely take our rights way in in Virginia. Our Constitution states that we have a right to have a militia and to protect ourselves. And when you and everybody should have that you know what I'm saying because back in the day they had a weapon for when I did the constitution thing Everybody had weapons to hunt with. Have you didn't have foodline and Costco and all that you had a weapon on your Mantel to go get Grub for the evening. So they weren't talking about in going out and shooting rabbit and stuff like that they were talking about. Look at the Flag Virginia. You know you've got a guy staying talking only took a nice little self there but the guy on the bottom side of dad's got his crown law and it it says what it means there and let you know what I'm saying. So when you you start looking at the big picture. They've seen this before. They saw Naing when they. I'm sure they saw over here with certain forces back because you know he just repeats itself and So so you need to. I think watch this carefully. Because we've done this is just the first step at all the rest of the rights being taken if they can get the discipline and then get our weapons which we won't take it. Okay we've already. There's they're saying Estimates from fifty to one hundred twenty thousand which all right. We'll see because there's talk is cheap and then showing up as a whole other story so we'll find out. Hey Dave I appreciate your opinion here tonight. Thanks for sharing with us The toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three whether it's gun rights or whatever is on your mind you can't bring up other things here on free talk live. You can take control of the airwaves. Eight fifty five four fifty free life. Sunday edition continues. Hello I'm Mike. Lindell the inventor my pillow and like all of you out there I had problems. I'm sleeping. Pillows would go flat. I would flip flop all night long. I would wake up with a sore neck. 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Bureaucrats politician was still deliver though Virginia might consider themselves to be part of the south and not celebrate emo Katie. It could well apparently according to the story over at Greenwich Time dotcom about the massive protests expected tomorrow the governor told all nonessential all staff unquote to stay home and many lawmakers urged aides to stay away though committees will still meet and both chambers will convene for floor sessions. So they will be. I presumed that they weren't going to be there tomorrow. The young pages who run errands in the House and Senate were given the day off for safety also questioned whether the governor was going to be in the capital will for safety reasons as well. I did question that. And that's not clear here in this story at least so far. The coalition to stop gun violence canceled its annual vigil and lobbying day announcing announcing the decision on twitter quote with a heavy heart. The guns state direct or Gun Organizations State Director Let's see Laurie has said it was because of quote ongoing credible threats to public safety that have been promoted by gun. Extremists continue here. There's going to be gun violence since I would not want to be in like the corralled area unarmed. Hell no right. You just completely eliminate your ability to defend yourself yourself. Fightback should something happen then. You're counting on the police to defend you and good luck with that too. Because you're like these people are creating extra work either the police or the you know the gun. The gun rights activists outside the carousal right outside the protest area. And we're going to talk about that a little bit more. We're here but we're going to go to your phone calls and thoughts I also Do want to let you know about bitcoin. Dot Com. They have launched a trading platform at local dot. BITCOIN DOT COM allowing you to buy or sell well. 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Lobbying down there well I was there once a couple of years ago and basically the town's kind of empty which is nice because it makes it easy to find parking But they they you know all of the big office building where The Pocahontas Office. Oh Not Elizabeth Warren building but building that the building is in full function posting. It's it's kind of a lobby day but it's also a normal they were all of your delegates and your senators are voting on stuff in the afternoon talking to people in the morning. And there's I saw that you know there was a gun. Right's group you know that they're out in front of the building there's a park parked there And that's kind of where all the protesting won't go on from what I understand and what I've seen passed but the problem is is that it a lot of people don't understand how we got here and I worked opole back in November. And let me tell you you know I was there from the time. They opened until the time they closed. And I saw things that you know. We're Kinda strange but when I went to the quote Unquote Victory Party and this was say not a member of the Republican Party. But I I do try to help them and so I went to the quote Unquote Victory Party and I got right there. You know after obviously after seven because that's when the polls close but it was closer to nine o'clock and there were no numbers as far as any precincts reporting from the State Board of elections tonight and I asked. Where's the numbers by? Why don't we know what later on I was told the State Board of elections? It was claimed that they were hacked. Okay there were another punch of unusual circumstances on November This past November election day precinct ran out of ballots. How do you run out of every precinct? Captain knows how many people should be. Don't they yes they do well. How many any ballots can you spoil? Not Wonder if something going on. Police had to escort ballots to precinct and precincts were also kept open after seven the clock. But I don't believe any of the people I mean millions millions and millions. Who knows how much money was put into you? Know Democrat You know campaign from out of state and we're probing out of this country. You're saying you believe something. Sneaky was going. Yeah I know things. I know. Things were stank from the very beginning. They literally stole the Leto. Look you know we're talking about Donald Trump and and all of the issues of of having a you know other countries involved in in throwing an election one way or another and here. We had people from every other state and I can't. I can't say that you know you didn't experience what you experience. Obviously you did however You you know this is what happened in a lot of places in two thousand eighteen. was you got. The swing of the pendulum swung back toward the Democrats right. It can happen here in New Hampshire and what happened down there in Virginia Trump won in two thousand sixteen his supporters out in droves and then in two thousand eighteen. They didn't come out and we had a caller caller earlier who said that it was only a thirty eight percent turnout of registered voters so what percentage of the adult population is registered. But it's not the full part you know it's not the full one hundred percent so at some amount less than one hundred. So how do how do precinct one out of balance if there's only thirty eight percent that's a great question so okay we do have motor-voter so there you know there's people who are probably voting who who don't even live you know in in the precincts during the I mean there's look I don't have any faith in the system as far as it goes because it seems like an and this can go either way. Whoever whoever cheats the most obviously you know no well yeah? He's a winner. But in this case. Okay this was a really big deal to to flip you know because they only needed a couple of seats to take over the State House. Okay and the thing is that you know I mean once again. We're talking about. We have governor who you know. Nobody wants to talk about his His racist tendencies. Tendencies from Bongo and the and that and I mean care you know. We're still celebrating Tag League Jackson Day. I'm not originally from. I'm I'm from New York so I I don't play any of that heritage but Jim I want to say thank you for calling and sharing your perspective here tonight. I definitely appreciate hearing from you. The toll free three number is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. That's weird running out of balance. That seems a little sketchy seems was pretty suspicious but at the same time it's also not unusual to see that pendulum swinging where the opposition redoubled their efforts. And they're like oh we gotta take it back and then they get out there and they spend the money and they got money coming in from outside and and Republicans think they want so now they don't have to come out for whatever reason they just don't come out in those off year election so I suspect you're gonNA see once again. Another pushback from Republicans in two thousand twenty here Because they they lost in two thousand eighteen and a lot of cases. Here in in New Hampshire the State House went from being Republican majority to a Democrat. Majority as sort of the pushback against what happened in in two thousand sixteen. So they're trying to push through Texas and gun restrictions as well but in this case we have a Republican governor. Because for whatever reason that New Hampshire people and I don't think they're intending to do this. It just sort of comes out this way where they've managed to be pretty good about like always putting one party not up against the other and creating gridlock situation where it'll go from like a Democrat controlled State REP representatives representatives and then it'll switch to Republicans after two more years in the Republicans will undo like the worst stuff. The Democrats did and the Democrats will get in. And they'll undo some of the worst stuff the Republicans skins did and they'll pass a bad stuff to keep fighting over control at the same time. You usually have a governor that sort of the opposite of whatever the legislature is so a lot out of the worst stuff doesn't even get past because it gets vetoed so like not an ideal situation either. Though I might well the ideal situation would be no state whatsoever ever right because every every two years you gotta you gotTa abide by new set of laws and in two years I got some freedom but restricts yeah you know by are there long on either eighth eighth fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five. Four five zero three seven three but as far as the growth of the state is concerned slow. It's a slow process here in New Hampshire. There's more coming up. You can join us our threes next. It's free talk live. Gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure. Investment Historically Arkley mcilvanney. ICA's been helping people take delivery of precious metals and find storage options for decades. They've helped thousands of investors their precious metal. IRA's call today for your free portfolio. 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Actually I'm not sure for how long this gun bans GONNA last. I don't know if it's it's only expected to be the one day. Or if it's just from now on until he lifts the state of emerge until he lists right which of course many states of emergency have uh never been lifted. Why bother I mean if you can just implement a state of emergency and then get you know garner more power for yourself? Why would you ever want to let that go? If you're power seeking Sicko so that's what we're dealing with here and so the question is how big's Israeli going to be. Is it going to be a peaceful rally. Will it'd be disturbed by agents agents provocateur trying to stir up violence so there's an excuse to start shooting on the crowd We'll somebody successfully sneak a gun through a checkpoint. Will there'd be someone shot at a checkpoint not going to take my guns for me here by him. You know who knows anything. Go down tomorrow or it'll be completely non eventful and nobody shows up. I mean so let's case scenario. There's a whole I don't know what the best case scenario is honestly. I don't know if it would be a bad thing. If you know there was a shootout. Okay I mean and obviously people dying is a bad thing but as you guys pointed out earlier in the show if the government keeps going in the direction of well we WANNA start confiscating people's guns then eventually eventually likely somebody's GonNa get shadow for it. Yeah so whether it's tomorrow or half year or a year down the road does it really matter no but I'd a Front yard of the State House was saying how safe house with a bunch of with Antifa with. You is the best way to do that. Well you may you probably not going to have the best option. Whatever it is you know whenever they come for guns that kind of thing? It's probably not going to be. There's going to be like a best scenario. I just don't like the unarmed corral. All right and that's that's what they got a little bit more of information here at Greenwich Greenwich Time dotcom. They're interviewing todd. Gilbert the the House Minority leader a Republican from Shenandoah said in a written statement on Saturday quote any group that comes to richmond to spread white supremacist garbage or any other form of hate. Violence or civil unrest isn't welcome here while we in our democratic colleagues may have differences. Were all Virginians. We'll stand united in opposition to any threats of violence or civil unrest from any quarter. Of course they won't be united against threats of violence from the police because they support those threats violence Gilbert declined to discuss the content antenna the briefing but a statement referred to efforts to quote infuse the event with a quote twisted or extreme worldview unquote outside the capitol authorities use tall chain unlinked barriers to create pie a pie shaped pen for the rally. The area takes up about a third of Capital Square. Manicured Park dotted with monuments historical figures ranging from native Americans and George Washington to a segregationist governor and civil rights leaders the monuments protected with additional fencing as well as the executive mansion to the east. So they're protecting the governor now. I don't like that they're already like priests scapegoating white supremacists as if that's the only group that would be willing. I wouldn't call it problems. Well and again they already arrested. Three alleged white supremacists like this is not a rights persons rally. This is in high gun control rally right but they're saying that the only people that are willing to start violence is going to be the white supremacist group. meaning that if violence does occur the likely say that one of those is the agent from provocateur. That snuck through regardless of who actually started. The square is usually open on all sides to foot traffic. However under north of emergency order order access is restricted to one spot in just inside the entrance at ninth and East Grey streets? The crowd will be split into seventeen in lines for screening with metal detectors. So yes you will be screened if you are attempting to get into this protest zone. Anyone attempting attempting to bring in weapons will be turned away. Police will not confiscate the item. So that's good I. I suppose glad they're not actually taking guns at the checkpoints if you have a gun and you'll just be told you can't come in Officials have said demonstrator demonstrators. Who Do not Wanna part with their guns may remain armed on the city streets? Thirty say they will cut off admission to the rally once. The crowd hits a certain number which they declined to disclose. We go to Dana on the line in Grand Rapids Michigan listening to W. K. G. Out there good Dana Hi Guys Be in I wanNA thank you Before the last break you brought up the thirty eight percents That voted In the last last election and that I've been listening to these people and I'm saying this because I'm calling from Michigan and I support the rally He you know done band rally That all these people are going out there. But there wouldn't have defend the rally or the protests had they gone out and voted you know people say that voting doesn't count. I'm one of those people until from dot elected elected not any school board or municipal state or local ever. Made me believe by vote on it but you you know what they say. My mother always said that if everybody felt that way than the other side would always win and it only takes one. I offense like a governor or and a handful just a few over in the you know over the number in the state legislature. We're both the Senate faith and the state rafts to to do things like this. So for all Virginians listening because you have such a large group listening tonight to your show. I want them to know. I know you're tired after work. I am too. I know you got a little one but people in Virginia understand what happened. Your state was blood breads for years and it got turned blue if got turned blue because though oh socialist flash communist progress them and the millennials as well as some of the older ones. The Gen xers moved to northern Virginia Chechnya from Washington. Because they're they work for the bureaucracy in Washington. This is not me saying this by not trying to be a melodramatic here. You can check this out. They moved into northern Virginia. which is the Jason for Washington because although it's outrageously expensive it's still chipper than Washington and I'll say one thing about those socialists and communists in those big government people is? I don't care how many little kids they got ties. There are eight straight no matter what's going on when there's an election even if school board they get off their butts and both I wanna tell you you something about your last caller Jim fall dead. Now what do we do if we go out and vote in the election. That's the problem. We need to address that. Because yes I'm GonNa tell you something. I wasn't Mitt Romney's fan but I sure as hell wasn't voting for Obama in twenty wells. They dead on entire counting exit a poll in Virginia. I think it was Harrison County and one in Ohio. Both of those particular counties were wet in addition when the exit polls than they did the exit poll. They did a whole day on the whole it was almost entirely. It was overwhelmingly for Mitt Romney. Me and yet when all was said and done and this refers to the last caller before break about the feeling of election it was completely almost almost a hundred percent for Obama. Now Tell me how that happen but he and you were right on the money. You cannot bitch and complain ain't above the government you have you have the government. You deserve key in Virginia. I know you didn't stay. That used instead the thirty eight percent. People didn't turn out for twenty eight feet and you're right to bring that up because all these colors are talking about the rally. Yes I I support. They get on your instagram dead on your facebook. Spread the word that turnout but there isn't a need for protests. If you do the front end works out and vote. I'm going to let the anarchist come out here for a minute and say that people don't even rambling there for big go ahead. I'm I'm going to let the inner anarchist's come out for a minute because this is where I'm okay with the violence right free people. Don't vote for Masters Right. Free people declare themselves to be free three and defend themselves against crisp. If the government doesn't want to encroach on free people and free people don't need to get violent it's when they start the encroachment and that you have to defend yourself some way somehow Dana Thank you for the call tonight. I appreciate hearing from you. Toll Free Number eight fifty four fifty free. That's eight five five. Four five zero zero three seven three three well look. Voting has not stopped the government from getting bigger. That's for damn sure there's more coming up. Free Talk Tell you about my favorite crypto currency wallet Edge Wallet at Edge Dot now edge is the one that I use more than any other and that was true long before edge while it became a sponsor of free talk live edge. Wallet allows you to buy sell trade and securely hold your crypto currencies including bitcoin. A theory of Tokens Manera ripple Dash bitcoin cash. And more it's available for both android and and you can download it via the play or APP store or edge while its website edge dot APP. 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Somebody thinks thinks is the threat. These are all. You know. Freedom oriented unconstitutional terrible ideas and they deserve to be opposed does but our last caller was suggesting that voting would somehow solve these problems. He should of voted harder. Virginia and I don't know I mean. Yeah okay maybe you could have kept this crop of Democrats out for this moment. But ultimately voting has not stop the government from getting as oppressive and as intrusive as it currently is and it's not like the Republicans are better right. They might be better on this John's maybe yes right so if you had if you had voted in a Republican governor and legislature feature like. What would the issue be this time? What would what would the issue be instead of the Second Amendment issue? I don't know maybe they ban abortion or something like that would be forced to Bible down kids throats or possibilities are all typical with Republicans. Right so yeah I mean they want to. They want you to be To do the things they want you to do and not. What do the things they don't want you to do? And so do the Democrats. It's all the same. It's all just status authoritarianism. Being shoved down people's throats and and we're not we're not there yet to end police people's beliefs in this system. Unfortunately so I don't while I'm with you. That voting has isn't ultimately going to change a whole lot. What about this Richie? I'm also not opposed to people who try to vote sure because there are very few options that you do besides violent revolution and if it is possible to send a message. Say by voting for the Libertarian candidate. or something like that then. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Necessarily just don't expect it to really make a big difference. I mean it's stabilized stabilization care if anything in the cases that it is it's not going to cure it. It's not going to get rid of the state but it will will stop something from getting worse in cases could so. Here's a question that I posed to one or the other porcupines You Know Liberty Migrating people in in Manchester Ri- live Right like I said like I said violence is always the answer. We do everything possible peaceful before we get the violence at least should be the goal in most human interactions where those conflict out agree with you. There I mean I don't support violence I've but ultimately I'm not a pacifist so it does come down to somebody who I care about is being threatened. I wouldn't oppose using five. Stop that so so those who vote they look at that as like one more non violent means to achieve freedom to achieve liberty. Let's go ahead. Let's get the laws passed. Let's vote for the right legislatures and like my question to him was like how many more or election cycles do you need right before. He said like we've exhausted this nonviolent method. We need to try something else right what else. I don't know that's what I'm saying. That was my question. Well I support Mass non-compliance that is kind of the opposite question to me because the question isn't how how many things can we do to put off off resistance. The question is do we have enough of people to effectively achieve resistance and right now the answer is no. You don't even have enough people to effectively a non cooperate like resistance is one thing if you're talking about like violent resistance that's a whole other set of you know even less or even no real such thing as is non violent resistance. You're either resisting or your though. There is absolutely a nonviolent resistance called non-cooperation. It's where you don't do what you're told. It's where they tell you resistance assistance though. That's just kind of being there. Well I mean if you aren't going along to get along you are resisting and in that way so I'll give you an example Lauren. Canario Dario who you may have met at some point. She's one of the activists early. Movers up here. You Know Lauren. No okay so she's real she's an early mover like before. Even freetalklive moved here she. He went to New London Connecticut where they were stealing people's homes back in two thousand five. You may recall the kilo versus New London. LNU London Supreme Court case where the Supreme Court ruled ruled that the government gang can steal people's property for private purposes. No longer just for like. Oh you want to build a parker you know some other government thing. I'll look benefit as opposed to public use right to use the money. Oh we're going to get more tax dollars from this if we try converted to a private Business Park instead of this neighborhood which is what it's been for generations and so they stole people's homes from them. She went down there and she engaged in non-cooperation civil disobedience. She sat on the Porch of one of these homes. You know they they wanted to steal from these people and you know. BULLDOZER COMES UP. Or whatever and She's there on the porch just reading the book and they had to physically remove her from on that porch because she was not going to go voluntarily. It's not resisting resisting. Anything when they went and picked her up the way. You're telling the story Lena. She didn't resist that she let them pick her up and move for of the words but they're still resistance involved because they had to pick her up most people when they get arrested. We'll just do do what they're told ran out. Put Your hands behind your back. Walk this way get in the car. She made them do everything. Not only that but when she was in the jail and they came came to take her to court. She didn't even leave her jail so that she forced them to go in there. Bring a wheelchair to the cell. Pick her up from inside the cell put her in the wheelchair. Take her out to the you know the paddy wagon lift her up put her in the Paddy Wagon. Then do the same thing at the court wheeler into the courtroom so basically I'm not saying she should have but all right so fine okay. So you're filing resistance okay. She's not pushing back. She's not straining against them but at the same time. She's also not cooperating with with them. So it's non-cooperation if you had even a small percentage of people non-cooperating refusing to pay tickets refusing to obey. You could throw a major wrench into the works without ever having. I won't resist but I won't assist. Yeah that's right. Yeah without ever having a lift a finger you can do a whole lot to really clog. The system with non violent cases and things like that phones are all of a sudden unloaded. We're going to get to your calls and thoughts here. Eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. Gold has definitely been on the movies late and there is no more secure. 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I can't do anything but all the you know the campground so I I don't actually know how many people I told you that ground with the clicker constantly moving and people are all going when all over the place at all the time so you just kinda get a feel for it but come on up and checking out and go to fork fessed up party and we'll look forward to seeing you. Derek is free talk live. We'll be broadcasting from the event we go to your phone. Calls and thoughts. Rob Rob is in Lynchburg Virginia listening to W FM Grad Rob. Hey Hey say that. The folks in Virginia Sir around the country say fight Bloomberg last Saturday was bragging about how he bought. The Gun. Control is theory in Virginia. The gun here by twenty four million dollars. They're getting people elected For his agenda. Personally that he would you know a billion dollars or two billion dollars. This is socialism and communism around the country. Why would he pick Virginia? I I think there was just on the as we have. The the margin of victory was so slammed plus the mass shooting in Virginia Virginia Beach and kissed occurred and it was. It was a bomb found to bring up the gun control issues and third word of the people in in the metropolitan areas and and got them to elect Socialists. Communists I mean. Even Fairfax Downey elected eight democratic socialist and that was his. That's how he ran. Has They. Strike Socialists in Fairfax County. So people need to be aware are plus and I say my son is a police officer in the county around Richmond and they have stood up the incident management team and our governor stirring up trouble. Okay stood up hold on you said. They've stood up to the incident management team. What is that that means that they're they? They are preparing for trouble. They have the state incident management team. The people that coordinate police fire rescue. EMS National Guard and all those people have command center set up for trouble and the governor with 'em putting up the fence fence around the capital area in banning guns And then going out here and saying well you know these people are going to cause trouble well the only ones causing trouble or the busloads amplify that are headed towards Richmond. If there's any trouble it's not people with carry permit is it's not in our members that will cause trouble it will be you know the anti that will stir up trouble they could and could also be the police well good. I know your son's a cop and everything but we've certainly seen plenty evidence of cop stirring up trouble at protests so they have an excuse to go into cracks heads. Now what is it that your son. How does your son feel about this situation? I mean is he going to go around and confiscate guns. Have you asked him about that. No no they. They won't but he says most of and I live in in bed in the Bedford. County area we are a second Second Amendment Sanctuary county ars. Sheriff will not do that and we have counties nine son. I'm SORTA interrupted for the sheriff and he worked for city. Police worked for care reporting for sure. So percents ninety. Five percent of the counties in Virginia and jurisdiction have voted to be Second Amendment under sanctuary county or city even the large one of the largest cities. Virginia beach voted to be a second amendment sanctuary city. And the yeah the Attorney General. Who says well? There's no power those resolutions. Well when you have sheriffs that are saying we will deputise the citizens and make You know deputies that you can't take their guns a name you know. Think about it but sheriffs willing to deputize them thousand people in his county. Though that interesting approach I also found in West Virginia offered to absorb those counties into in West. They are serious about doing that. I mean you know it. They will annex any county votes to come along. What would it take the? It'd be hilarious right. Well it would take unfortunately it would take the the you know the House and the Senate in Virginia to let them go authorize it which they won't do now that they're Democrat But it's scary. I'll tell you you know I have said that that before I give about my rifles. My long guns I will send my wipe out the door and I will die with them in my hand because I'm not giving up my gun rob thanks for calling. That's a tough call. I really appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us tonight Sir. Let's go onto Dustin in Kansas listening to and Salonika Dustin in his name right in is a DJ name. Now that's what I was giving birth. I I I I admire the show. I think it's the best best one on the radio for for for what I get by on. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I it it go ahead. I'm sorry it's completely unique. Open up the conversation conversation Yes community thank you for your service. Thank you for recognising. That was there anything else you wanted to say. Yeah I well I just wanted to. Yeah they did they. Did I cold cold before and then told you that they then working for for the tea party as a constitution is isn't remembered for one paragraph for judge in the land and I'm still I'm still hacker pricing to work for the tea party in and I think I think I think I've completed the The the Want once for the community so so so I don't as the tea party even exists. I haven't heard anything about the tea party for like most of the last decade. I've still got my Liberty Dollar Tea Party flags I it's a dedication is the designation for we the people and the conditions that that that there is no law as a of the of the difficulty remember even one paragraph. I don't know what you're trying to say Dustin but I do want to say thank you for listening and thank you for the compliment. 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You'RE LISTENING TO W N I. s out in Norfolk go ahead. John could even arrogance donor neighborhood. Welcome Sir Great. Show So I I. I don't know I haven't heard the whole show tonight. I'm driving around door dashing for extra money and and I've been listening on and off but I have a little bit of an idea about how this is gonNA go down down. And there's a lot of bills that were proposed. As soon as the election was over they had them filed almost immediately and a lot then have been scrapped for now. Really my ideas that sounds Kinda far is but I think these legislators are hoping and for the worst type of behavior can go ahead and put these bills that were scrapped. The most egregious ones back on the table. You can give us an example of one of them that's been scrapped. Yeah so I wish I had to build numbers but I don't remember them off the top of my head but the one that really kind of sip sit everybody into the stratosphere was the gun ban and so the the ban was probably the strictest in the country are the proposed ban. Because that's the crux of what's going on here right. So there's a bill in the house that has been Disguised the bill from the Senate was Taken off the table and to basically the bill would ban basically a seventy five to eighty percent of everything that's sold in Virginia. Bunny anything with the magazine. Over ten rounds hold on just to clarify it would ban guns that have already been there already in possession of people or ban the future sales of those guns so the original language of the law as far as I can understand it was that there would be no grandfather clause that that overnight when the bill was passed or if the bill to be passed overnight pretty much you know millions millions of Virginians will be you know felons. Why do you think they scrapped it? They scared I think. Well I think it's because of the reaction I mean this this this it's unprecedented pressure in it and I went to. I Live Virginia beach and I went to the The Second Amendment Rally there for the at the Cam City Council and. It was packed I was inside the actual room and there were at least I think a thousand people outside channing and I think that's gotten their kitchen so I think they've scrapped a lot of these bills but but they're never they're never going away permanently back in the wings to absolutely. Tamara goes down. And it's really bad. Then that gun ban is gonNA come back. I've talked to local gun store owners and they they have no idea. Yeah they you know what what are they gonNa do with their stock. They spent all this money and all these firearms. They also had a lot of really strange bills in there that have been kind of like put put under the rug for right. Now they had bill that would You couldn't operate a shooting range unless unless it was a government. Shooting Range is really bizarre. You couldn't participate in martial arts classes. If you were part of a militia group. Would how really yeah. I heard a little bit about that. I thought that was a little bit overblown in with the media coverage like it wasn't exactly what they were describing. So you're saying these are the ones that are scrapped. But there's still plenty of bad ones that are on on the deck right. Yes the ones that are going with their what they would call. And it's funny. How you know? Whenever somebody wants to pass a law they they they get could defined what Commonsense means you know commonsense law who says commonsense gun control right common so yes as is if you oppose it. Then you have no common sense right So that's how it's very. It's very clever how they frame it. But the the ones that they're going to probably pass immediately or the red flag laws And the You can't buy more than one gun a month. I believe which is really just really silly. I mean how many handguns can you use it. One time on trade. So and then they're gonNA they're gonNA pass the one where you can't I I even if you want to sell a gun to a family member you're going to have to have a background check. Silly yeah I mean just none of this stuff works. We know it statistically we I know it but the more grievous stuff the stuff that really pisses people off. I think they're going to cable those for now. And then the first instance of any kind of mass shooting that happens the next is there probably won't be another one at some point like the Patriot. Act Go it's not like this and then we went and it's done right. They keep bringing combat until we get rid of the same fight. Yeah that's never never going to and it's GonNa be a constant battle for I don't know for the rest of my life anyway. You know anyway. John appreciate the call man. Thanks for sharing with US tonight. Definitely appreciate that Let's go to Tim. He's also in Virginia beach listening to w NIS. Go ahead. Tim Guy Tonight Tim. What's on your list and I wanted to run that red flag law by guy the time sure scrap. I'm already going to tell you that. Go ahead well man. I love that guy that you were just talking to a Man I agree with him. Going to present I know it's done the way From a shooting range here not in the beat but close Why did they turn you away? Well they said amount allowed Out to shoot the rifle there anymore. Only handguns really folks. Why yes is that Range Dallas you though I mean because if that's range policy yeah but why well? It never was before because I'm shot the right for their many time. So it was something new No not even a vague reason as to why just a week and a nod. And you know what's going on talk guest but apparently you don't know what's going on. So are you. Concerned at the red flag lost. Someone will turn you in and they'll come for the rest of your firearms one. No Oh my question was would too. If you know someone who happens that a lot of firearms you think. Well now wait a minute. Did this person actually threaten you or do you just think that they're potentially dangerous. No no but there Befriend them voluntarily. Go ahead groggy involved. I mean just because somebody's getting high doesn't mean that they're a threat necessarily pretty violent violent. Gone Okay well. Why didn't they don't? They actually harmed you. They threaten you directly. No no no. So what what that person is. Give them the ability to call the cops me like. Hey my potential victim. You should take all their guns from me before I go attack them. That's where I'm gone like. What does that mean? What do you do in in in in my position you leave the person alone? I mean if somebody's minding their own business but they look dangerous. They're not threatening you then. They're not a threat. I mean I don't understand the maybe there's something I'm missing here. Work on your draw. Just in case he comes after you you can fire quick okay. We'll there's a lot of road rage road rage still underneath the C store a gun by the way I right on the way around. Okay wait. Are you SPEC hold on me. Rating is a form of starting. And that's already illegal but wait are you talking about a theoretical guy or you're talking about a real guy that you know who literally goes in waves a gun around Berntsen person person. Sounds like he knows frequent. Okay you know a guy who's gotten into road rage incidents has pulled the gun and many other people with not only gone not did okay. I'm sorry I thought you did say he was waving at people people so you think he has the potential. Yes wait wait till he does and then draw quicker they go. Thanks for the call tonight. I appreciate don't call the cops that just makes things worse it really does. I like your advice there and you can check more richie out on his show which is the anarchist experienced artist experience dot com. You can find him there. He's a fresh fresh show up every single week on his podcast feed and we will continue tomorrow night's. Hopefully nobody will get hurt tomorrow in Virginia. But we will see and we'll let you know we hear and you can call us. Have you ever wanted to work when you wanted to work instead of having to report to an office office. Have you ever felt trapped by relationship rules like monogamy. I'm Caleb Jones and I have taught hundreds of thousands of men how to create low work high income businesses and how to date women under your terms watch our free live on demand. Replay training with me. 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Vote on impeachment. David Messy Ultra liberal tonight. What do you think of that demand by the president? Is it fair or unfair. It's typically self-serving and absurd and and Borsch and buffoonish If I had more time that I was brief owed come up with more adjectives but but I I do have some sympathy for his request. That Pelosi hold the vote right away. Because as long as they could a ascertain the entire transcript of the phone call that to me would be sufficient on whether or not to proceed with the impeachment. Genie is your card carrying Republican. which answer to that question? I don't think any American can look at what the Pelosi Schiff Kabbalah is doing and say that that is fair air for to anybody. Take the vote decide if you really WANNA go down impeachment inquiry and then that allows the minority party also also to subpoena documents and participate in the proceedings right now. It's completely a partisan proceeding that they're putting forward and that is not fair to anybody. Anybody David Europeans are Democrat. David Nice to have Peter Peter Davidson. Great Should every member of Congress have to vote up or down on this. You know. I'm I'm actually fine with requiring a vote however to have the president of the United States request something it should be taken seriously and not relitigate something that happened in the past but that should also be included with a Supreme Court justice justice whether it was Merrick Garland have an upper down vote in the Senate and the same thing if a try that is the subject the subject before for the House and the nation at the moment is should the president of the United States being impeached and this seems to me that Republicans and Democrats all have an opinion on. This us shouldn't the elected officials of Republicans and Democrats people. Why shouldn't they vote up or down on it then I would like to see the process codified because as of now this will only be what the fourth impeachment proceedings in the history of our country so in many ways? They're flying by the seat of their pants or they're looking back act to the Clinton proceedings for last to the last two times it happened. The House did vote. And that's why to clear up. Any confusion infusion codify it so put an in the event that an impeachment inquiry begins. The House must vote. I'm fine with that. If it were then remains consistent because president then trump will not be the last president regardless of party to face an impeachment inquiry. I agree with that. Bruno Baroness or libertarian. Tonight I don't think there's much that anyone has said this evening yet that I disagree with so I can leave it to them. I think I what I like to do is remind people that impeachment is not a political. It is not a legal process. It's a political political process. So everyone that's doing anything about impeachment is playing a political game and obviously it's all inside of legal procedures in the House and the Senate on it to the extent that But it's all left up to the house and the Senate to make up their own rules on how they do this so they can all go by the past they can all go by what somebody he says. But all trump is doing here is setting the stage for the back and forth process about what's going to take place here and we'll see what the Democrats but if it's a political game why don't you send into the political arena and let people vote on it that's right and we have an election about thirteen months away and the trump is going to be on the ballot. This time. Okay okay but I'm talking about an impeachment. Vote in the absolutely that's exactly right. I mean people. I agree with you there David. Well one caution Shen that I would have that my well-dressed Republican co-panelists might find appealing. Is that the constitutional framers intended for the legislative branch to have more power than the executive branch and over the past several administrations. We've seen being the powers of the executive branch grow wildly out of proportion with original intent and it's consistent with trump's personality to make those demands but it's also consistent with how the president has routinely Bush Obama now trump treated congress as a subordinate into branch of government when in reality the founders intended it the opposite so the counterpoint not to contradict myself. Prep some like Walt Whitman containing multitudes tonight but the counterpoint to my earlier argument and trump's argument is that we've just had a a second whistleblower come forward what that whistle blower is going to divulge. We do not yet know it could just be a rubber stamp on the first whistleblower revelation some new insight. So why not wait to see what well well. They didn't wait to see anything though. They didn't wait to see anything thing before impeachment. They didn't wait for the transcription. Come out they didn't wait for the complaint to be given over even though all that was said there was going to cry for impeachment started with Schiff Jeff and then it moved to Democrats and then finally Pelosi gave into her caucus even prior knowing that they were going to release documents. They just decided they're going to impeach prior to the. Here's here's one or at least inquire so like you said thirteen months away from the election. I have a feeling that I mean my goodness maybe even six or eight weeks from now tonight or or the topic of the impeachment create will feel like it was two years ago yes much is happening so quickly glee and so that's why when it is you know. Should they vote. Shouldn't they vote. Should they require one. That's why I say codify it because things like this will come up again and if anything does come out of this because I don't see the president getting convicted in the Senate and I say that as a Democrat I just don't see it happening at all and so we're simply going to go through this exercise and then the whole focus will simply turn onto the Democratic primary general election. Peter Raises a good point. As David said you know we have a second whistle blower now we may have more I mean the whistleblower this whistleblower whistle blower number two. He's not not going to report anything. That's good news for Donald Trump. Right yes of course a third fourth. I mean they're not gonNA they're not going to say good things about Donald Trump. So if Diana's cast all I want is I want all members of the house to say. Yes let's proceed with the Complete or let's call it off. That's all I and I'll take enough benefit to do that. The faster she can get this offer plate the better it. 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T. dot com to find a physical therapist in your area. Welcome back to beyond the beltway. Dan proft sitting in for Bruce. Dumont I am of. AM Five Sixty in Chicago. And the Salem Network Nationally pleasure to be sitting in for Bruce and on this show many times. Great honor always sit in for Bruce Dumont who radio broadcasting legend pleased to be joined by some other legends well lesser legends but selections one one legend. Michael Golden who is yes Author of Unlock Congress. He's a journalist and speaker. John Cash Chicago Tribune Tribune. ADITORIAL board and Charles Lipson professor emeritus a University of Chicago. And we're talking talking about impeachment and the question we left before the break was Nancy Pelosi's assertion on the Sunday. Talk shows today. That what you have here. is they cover up. So it's It's moved from extortion and bribery to obstruction of congress and abusive power. To now the real issue is cover up. Cover up if Mitch. McConnell doesn't go forward with a trial according to the demands of Chuck Schumer than it's a cover up. That's what Nancy Pelosi is saying. Michael Michael Bolton is is that correct is that all everyone just got it all covered this that is a Fact Base Recitation. Of what she said. I think that first of all I would like to say that if every Republican concentre and then probably Republican in the house but if I if every Republican senator were strapped to a polygraph and asked whether they think the President United States violated the Constitution in a way that's worthy of impeachment. They would all either say yes or fail a polygraph. So let's not this is about they all the European they don't know not a constitutionalists. Like Mike Lee. Who says this impeachment is ridiculous? Who has not happen unwilling to criticize the president this administration? I don't think he would fail a polygraph. I don't think so I think all these look. They're all politicians left and right. Let's just we're we won't tell you and I can barely believe they win. said his fault can but I don't think that they do. I just don't think that they do. I just think that the they all rationalize except for the few who made allow this is because no states their politics are little suspect. Few people want the witnesses but in the rest of the states. They're doing what they need to do. And by the way I'm not saying if the sides were reversed I'm not saying the Democrats would do differently. This is how it works. And unless you're you're you're asses on the line in the next election. You're going to lock in with your party. I it's a shame now to your question about the cover up. The reason I said that I I for answering the question is this is just chess and Nancy. Pelosi absolutely believes it. Smart for her to say it's a cover up and that that is the best. I'm not saying that will. But that's the best strategy on a national program. This morning we're talking about it now to smoke out those four Republicans and actually have them continue. Continue to say I think we should have witnesses. The whole point of not having witnesses or not letting having executive privilege in preventing testimony is because they don't want more dramatic truth about what the president is. Not that word Jon Kessler some other reasons. Why you sort of privilege which is because it's within in your rights to assert executive privilege presidents have had that right correct? And and here's the other thing and I want to get your reaction to John Kass. Which is I'm sorry which is it? This is a slam dunk case. We Dead Bang have him Abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. But there but Mitch McConnell is covering up what what is there to cover up. It's already been exposed. We've already Q.. E. D. This whole case it's over. Isn't it which this is it. This is a ridiculous farce from the beginning and The mistake was made by Democrats when shift played Over played his hand and met with the or his staff met with the whistle blower. Who I guess? I can't say his name where it's like fraud. Bluecher bruecker horses the horses will will begin the Winnie But when the American people begin are understood stood that here came the staffer a CIA guy. Who was who met with Vin Demon? Who had the story leaked to him? I and then he's the one who cares the water to chef in the committee. The whole thing sounded like Chicago. Take down it was just unseemingly unseemly and I think if I were rebutting everything that Michael our dear friend said it would be the start there and I think that the American people know that Charleston cover up one reason that they had to Russia it and so whether or not you call witnesses could be called a cover-up and of course the Republicans will say well. You should have called them in the house. The reason that they had to rush it is at the most compelling case for trump is in the absence of something that really looks like a serious areas violation of law not even Telling a FIB to a grand jury which is a felony and that was what Clinton in effect Said did he did but something like a cover up which is what Nixon did. The reason they couldn't wait is because the most compelling case is to say say one outlet the American people decide and the longer they wait the the more compelling that argument is you're overturning Oh for turning and election that is a very big deal and take my word that sixty three million people blue voted for president. Trump would take this as a very very serious matter unless a lot of them were also convinced he cannot remain in office he is violated something very fundamental. But here's the thing Michael to it's not just this and `isolation you have to look at what Charles is saying. In the context of Russian collusion Russia includes Russia collusion. Okay that didn't work so now we're onto the next thing. And so the Democrats perhaps suffering particularly among independence from a little bit of the boy who cried Wolf Syndrome. Okay you know what so it might be fair to say that. That's the effect it's having on the the boy uh-huh Cry Wolf however. I never questioned that Nancy. Pelosi did not want to impeach him for all that Russia stuff. She knew that it even if she believed that there was a violation. She knew it didn't cross a threshold. That was either series snuff or had or had the potential to get enough Americans to change. You know people have a short memory or or I guess I'm old Watergate and Watergate was I was sick I had short memory. Didn't in Watergate the if eventually when that piece of evidence came out of the tapes. That's when everything flipped. Now you can make the argument while the Democrats should have done that in the house. They shouldn't get to have new witnesses. This is but the cover up. Argument is if you're cases strong and these guys can come in and tell the truth and that won't change anybody's mind in America the sixty eight percent that want want to hear the witnesses and then then then then put your car to tape cider in the White House came out and said this of course is what they hope would happen with with Bolton an insider John Dean not even knowing that testifying against Nixon would get him a job forever at seeing being in in prison test really come on after amd cable networks around mastermind but dean said that he he was the mastermind and Nixon directly approved a classic obstruction of justice. which is but but notice that we talked about obstruction of justice talked about bribery talked about extortion? None of those are actually in the impeachment articles. The but let's talk about the two that are what about the two that section of Congress asserting your rights as a function of Congress which is why they didn't pursue that one is ludicrous. Zoo compelling compelling testimony trying to Pierce executive privilege because if you attempt to get a remedy then you no longer have section of Congress as a chart. That's yeah that's obvious again. This hour is it. Goes back to the chess game. You're not seeing the guys that the three love the one on three I love this. I'm not saying that you're not right that case to say arguments you hearing. I should have done this. They should have gone to the court. Here's a roll the dice and moving into the Senate here. Here's here's the other thing too is. And this is the problem of the left and the media and I repeat myself which is It's fine for Nancy Pelosi to exercise her leveraging urgent play politics in the House but when Mitch McConnell is going to do the same thing in intrinsically political process then it's Oh my goodness that's the the horror of politics being played in the Senate. You don't you're a smart guy you know the constitution almost as maybe as well as me and may almost as well as as Charles Strangers to. Yeah you're you. You will not concede that the processes as set out set forth in the Constitution of what the house does and what the Senate does it. An impeachment process are different. They are and what is as and and in both cases they are inherently political and the founders understood that. And that's what I'm saying. So why would you say Nancy Pelosi. You can exert in your political leverage Mitch McConnell. You can't Nancy Pelosi when she does is. It's a legitimate when Paul Mitch. McConnell is trying to make it costly for him just like the Republican and we're trying to make it costly for Nancy even listen to my answer go ahead you know that the process once the party in power in the House starts that that process they're going toward just an vote to impeach not convict that's why they made it much more serious than the Senate and we've never convicted anybody and probably you're saying it wasn't a serious process in say that I said it's a different process it's different it's more serious in the Senate and politics plays a apart in both. It's a legitimate way. Well that's why I'm saying that. I think that he will get off. SCOT-FREE I I just I I think that the over put it this way. Maybe not one hundred. I'll I'll edit the overwhelming majority of those senators if they had to tell the truth with a gun to their head and you knew knew if they were telling the truth or not they would say yeah would heat that vides overwhelming. I believe I believe in. You'll there are number of of the House of Representatives representatives would like nothing more than dinner with Adam Schefter slayer now we we you gotta we gotta we gotta go to break on this. We'll pick it up. We'll pick it up after the break. Don't Kit Gosh it. So we'll get it we'll get we'll come right back to it because because here's the other thing I want to ask I'M GONNA ask. Everybody was really about money. Trump overs this whole deal I- concession of trump's reelection and a focus on trying to take back the Senate uh we're going to pick that up with Michael Golden John Cash. Charles Lipson Dan Proft in for Bruce Dumont on his mission about about the economy is not working for everybody especially those in jobs where unscrupulous businesses keep wages lower by hiring millions of illegal workers. Those businesses could use the government's governments e-verify system to prevent illegal higher. But they refuse. What's best for the country? 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He's the president of Golden Mean Strategies Giancana's journalist and columnist and editorial board member. The Chicago Tribune and Charles. Lipson is a professor of political science. America's at the University of Chicago Tribune realclearpolitics dot com as well as spectator spectator USA. And we're talking about impeachment again. Nancy Pelosi saying she will meet with her caucus on Tuesday to decide whether or not she's going to deliver the articles of impeachment. Peach Mint to the Senate and Mitch McConnell suggesting that he's GonNa move this thing along whether she delivers them or not signing onto a resolution by I his colleague Josh Holly Republican from Missouri that would force Nancy Pelosi to either deliver the articles of impeachment within twenty five days or open up the possibility that a Republican senator could move for a motion to dismiss with prejudice effectively a civilian or a political version of what is available in civilian two billion courts for more on this and particularly that because Nancy Pelosi said Michael. Michael Golden Nancy Pelosi said that Part of the cover up was Mitch. McConnell signing onto that Josh Holly resolution that would allow for motion to dismiss what she left out was Provided that she doesn't isn't transmit the articles of impeachment than twenty five days. Is it reasonable for a consideration. Since you've written a book about the Senate rules in part. Is it reasonable for consideration. Say we're going to change the rules. If you're not going to be forthright in delivering the articles of impeachment that you and your colleagues pass actually so I mean that's a that's a it's a judgment call but I don't. I wouldn't see a problem with doing that. She should get over there and if they do that I'm not saying I'm for that resolution. But if they do that then that's part of the chess game and you have an opportunity to send them over and you've waited three weeks. I don't think that's unreasonable. I would ask Charles and John One thing that if I could ask all the Senate Republicans again analog detectors 'cause I would ask them if if everything that has been revealed that Donald Trump did in it. Ah for what. He was impeached for if every one of those things is true. None of the facts are contested without any additional testimony and President Bill Clinton or President Kerak Obama to the identical things. Would you equally be in favor of exonerating them for for being impeached and IMP and or convicted. Give it a beat before you the answer. There are a lot of things Obama did. This is a yes no though on your question. Yup this is how John Doe Secaucus big. Sorry but it's a yes. No it's a off. The Hook. Does doing the same thing. I don't think it's IT'S A. I don't like the argument. I don't I reject it because this is about transit. Answer though this is about trump if you WANNA talks about the law Clinton Clinton should have been impeached and I wanted him to resign. We're not talking about that. Oh you know I asked about this case these facts. Would you want those guys. Let off the hook. I would want the same thing. Applies here for what the impeachment is a political deal. His opponents don't like him they want to damage him and muddy up and maybe use it to leverage the Senate elections and and at the same time. We're only less than eleven months away from of national election and the people should decide it chows Lipson and well. I wouldn't have wanted either of those presidents impeached and that would be true in either the first term or for the second term. And it's important to understand. This is one of the things that makes this different is this is first term which means that this is a president. WHO's coming up for election? Had this happen sometime in the second term you could it removes the argument which I I made that the people can vote. I still wouldn't think trump or the others you're asking me how much of my views about this are ultimately because I am a Republicans the Democrat every Republican in the Senate. It's it's always hard to know. I'm an incredibly honest guy and I'm not sure about you you you know that's how we all feel you know especially about everyone he's about. It ought to be clear. No no no I really want to focus my attention on you and your and your manifest dishonesty the what. NFL Game. No what I want to say is it. You like to feel like you would make this same decision so it's always you'd like to. It's always hard to yeah. No it's all or is it a matter of law and the constitutional same here so you have a Michael. If I could intercede just for minute you have a democratic caucus is that between fifty and forty percent have moved articles of impeachment from everything for criticizing. NFL players kneeling during the anthem To I'm not defending those. I understand but what I'm saying. Is that the legitimacy of the moving party has been diminished greatly greatly since trump's election. Okay so I mean so. All of these Peillon's to the constitution which are very Infrequent and selective elective including among Madam Speaker. Pelosi the substance of it. To answer your question basically the transcript which is what we keep going back to the transcript of the phone call and competing interpretation of the transcript if it was Barack Obama and presence Alinsky that Had that exact same conversation Russian even in Obama vernacular versus trump for nacuer but essentially in intimating the same things. It is absolutely not a high crime. Urge Mr You. Would you would let him off the absolutely not high crime areas. There's nothing to let him off. It's absolutely not a High Kramer spinner the pot. The nonsensical pollyannish position a very recently adopted opted by the left that foreign policy and geopolitical decisions. By the United States aren't forced fed through a political prism is so ridiculous and an embarrassing and untenable that you should be ashamed to advance it. I'm not ashamed levels advocate. I'm just so the facts are in the pepitas on the table. It's going to go to the Senate and I'm just saying that I think that I don't think we'll do. They didn't say the same thing you did. Dan You said I would absolutely not actually Charleston Charleston. You said you would let those guys off the hook. Same fact you do not believe it's impeach. Moore's worthy of impeachment. You really I mean do you think s can answer transcript or whatever we're going to call it. Do you think that that's worthy of impeachment. Well first of all you. Dan Just said we keep going back to the transcript. The transcript Dansk transcript. I think that To say that the whole thing is about the transcript and none of the under testimony from all of those witnesses and the house is even have added support. Let me ask you a question. One of the hear what you're saying about politics see. That's that's a better argument that politics. That's what Mulvaney was. I'm trying to say he was trying to say politics does come into play. Let's get real here. What he was trying to? This is why I've said at the beginning of this. The whole idea there was no quid pro quo and that was sort of the the litmus test or the threshold I found to be illegitimate. I mean what what is it. Clear pro quo is a compromise. What do political leaders do would have politicians do? What are the public policy issues? Me Issue was whether there's a quid pro quo. The the issue is whether the exchange is for the person that's benefit of the president. I Charles so you you can say we don't want China to do acts unlike. I mean we won't do x for China unless China does X.. For us the the problem that the Democrats rats have in this is that old. Oh this clearly would benefit trump. Personally he had the plausible possible though. I don't think the the most logical explanation was that he's always been against foreign. A there was a lot of corruption. There he wanted it investigated. That's a legitimate thing for the country so those are all plausible explanations and they have advanced them and you can't knock them him down easily. In fact I haven't seen them knocked down and that's one of the reasons why they will say that's why we have to call Hunter Biden because it all all started with this very deep level of corruption in a America's Ukraine policy when Biden Biden. The father was was in charge of it and Biden. The Sun was making money off. Let me ask and this is Jump Ball question again. Trey Goudy as one of those whose advance. It's the notion that this is really. I mean. Look everybody understands the balance of power. Everybody knows what the numbers are in the house. The Senate they know this president is not going to be removed from office. This is about getting swing in state senators in an election year in a difficult position so that Democrats can take back the Senate in case they can't take back the White House and at least block. Everything trump wants to do in a second term including potential Supreme Court or Supreme Court nominee or nominees plural. So it's this is about Cory Gardner and Susan Collins and Thom Tillis. It's not about president trump. I have a I have an answer for that. It may have that effect. But that's not why Nancy pushed it. It's what's called a functional explanation that the function of your little toe is to make sure all the furniture in your house is in place you you know and It's really your little toe. Does that but that's not. Why is there? And the fact is Nancy was much more concerned learned about retaining her majority in the House and she put a lot of bad at risk. I don't think she cared that much about the Senate. It may turn now in fact will turn out that. She's put four senators. Sally is the other Ones Alley as from Utah Arizona Arizona Arizona But also the one from Colorado whose Car Corp. a those are all at risk for them and that but but the flipside is she may have put a lot of her house members except from one in in psychology. Put Her people so she didn't do it for the to put. The Senate ended play but it may turn out that way. We'll come back on this. This should be on the bow. Take a couple of calls Dan profiting and for Bruce St new exhibit from the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. Stay tuned rock on TV artifacts from the Jackson. Five Sonny and Cher Elvis Cindy Cindy Lauper Z.. Z. Top Eric Clapton. And more now at the Museum of Broadcast Communications three sixty north state street Chicago from bandstand stand to Gaga. Let's rock on TV FOR INFO and Tickets Visit Museum Dot TV. You have the right to know the right to know about culture culture the right to know about the economy the right to know about technology and to know about sports you have the right to know about education and politics and the weather. You have the right to know what's happening abroad and in your backyard but above all else you have the right to know that this right is under attack and we must work work to protect it because in order to be free we must be informed understand. The threats protect press freedom dot live from Chicago this. Dan Proft with our beyond the beltway. Analysis of national politics featuring occasional injections of rumor and Innuendo all offered up by our panel of political insiders pundits powerbrokers public service professors and most importantly plain-speaking plain-speaking Americans from coast to coast tonight featuring commentary by Charles Lipson professor emeritus of political science at the University of Chicago. Contribute a real clear politics and spectator USA. Michael Golden Author of Unlock Congress journalists and Speaker President Golden Mean Strategies and John Cass Journalists and columnists editorial board member of the Chicago Tribune Tribune our program. Tonight coming from our new Home Studio Paul. Andrew in Angel Harvey Radio Center Pollen Angel Harvey Radio Center at the Museum. You were broadcast communications in downtown Chicago. Thank you so much for joining us on this installment of beyond the beltway again. I'm Dan Proft. You can normally catch my act on mornings mornings on am five sixty in Chicago where I co host a morning drive radio program with Amy Jacobson and also my newly minted nationally syndicated talk show. If I could be so bold and self-indulgent on the Salem Network Dan Proft show dot com for podcast and to check your local listings. Six hours hours of radio is an are not enough for you. So that WHO's counting Cemented gentlemen thank you so much for joining us on this this panel and Michael. Let's start with you for you. Know from a perspective centre-left perspective a nancy. Pelosi on the Sunday talkies today telling George Stephanopoulos I'm going to be conferring with my caucus on Tuesday. We're going to decide if and when we're going to transmit the articles of impeachment how you think this is going for Nancy Pelosi in the boys and girls and the Democratic Caucus actually when she said she was going to hold him at first and seem to indicate indicate she had some leverage. I thought what is she talking about it. I don't I'm not you. The what are they. What are they gonNa Care and Mitch? McConnell went on the floor and said do what you WanNa do due to great Adam however however I will say that I think actually that I was wrong now a couple of weeks later. I don't get me wrong. I think that in conclusion is going to be the same but John Bolton has come out publicly I think he's just playing the media but it happened within this interregnum between sending it over to the Senate and and now you've got two or three Republicans saying that there should probably be witnesses. I'm not sure that there will be and I really. Oh I only there will be if there's a hell of a lot more constituents than those those three or four states that are just jamming phone lines because ultimately it just comes down to two or three these guys reelection Romney's got four years so he can say whatever he wants and he's in Utah where he's as a hero but I actually think that A couple of good things happen particularly in the last week or so. I don't know if that's going to change anything. Once they get over to the Senate but I thought I I thought she might be embarrassed and get nothing over three weeks. Chicago Tribune columnist and editor remember. John Kass is Nancy Pelosi. Oh she's still deserving of her. DC Press Corps moniker master strategists when it comes to impeachment will. What's the strategy? I'm still trying to figure that out is it. Let's stall this thing so Bernie Sanders can't leave Washington witnesses so that well or Orsay Joe Biden. You know stumbles towards Iowa. I mean what is the strategy or is it to what she believes. Weakens trump come November regardless of who the nominee is and she said it on Stephanopoulos says program today. He's impeached that he's impeached for forever. Ever and after and there's nothing he can do about it. There's no game playing that can undo that that that scarlet I of impeachment and that's assault she cares about the scarlet. I only sticks to the forehead if she sends her articles to the Senate other than that. It's she works. It's a farce. Well what about that Charles Lipson University of Chicago Professor Political Science. America's Dianne Feinstein in the Senate saying saying every day this passes without the articles being transmitted. We sort of loose the fierce urgency of now. We said we have they. Don't we would say that. They lost a long few weeks ago. Yeah I wrote about six months ago. I wrote that the whole point was to weaken trump for the election. They didn't think that they would get him out. I was struck during the bombing of Iran Iranian Leader Sola Meinie Iraq Just how trivial the the whole impeachment effort looked when something really serious was on the line not that the impeachment of president couldn't be serious this but this really wasn't serious effort. Had it been a serious effort that would have been all the impeachment. Witnesses called previous is to that that would have been an open process. We still don't have some of the transcripts from the Intelligence Committee Shifts Committee which They haven't all been released. Wanted one key one is still missing and you wouldn't have started it. With the Intelligence Committee. Mitty would have been started with Nadler of in the judiciary so the whole thing just looks like cotton candy and nothing thing serious. It's they didn't take to court once they didn't go to court and demand that the courts decide who should test you know so whether there should be testimony from the people they wanted to testify and the Puck Pelosi said today that we're still in court but we just couldn't way we had to move this the national security it was it was urgency. It was urgent four weeks in Christmas. Set in and we'll see four. They didn't win. They didn't win the polling rolling. I mean I. It's not exactly that. The Republicans and trump won it. But it didn't move in a way. You need overwhelmed or the witnesses. This is sixty eight. Eight percent glider. Republicans say yet you have witnesses at a Senate trial. I understand that. I'm Mike Shuster if they don't get on the phone my point is that if you're going to remove a president as opposed to just throw mud at the president trying to tarnish his reelection. The new have to win overwhelming public support. Short and the Democrats have not yet done that is true. At least you have less that you have to win some independence lose the independence. which is what she saw so Michael Golden in the immortal words of Confucius he who throws mud lose ground is that what's happening to Nancy? Pelosi Charlie Chan movie in the Dark Knight. That's my Dan Proft is on. Its Way I got the new show the newly excuse me the newly minted show. I know this is. This is a good good question I I I think that look. What's the Congress counts? The one who's yelling and talking real fast. He was he was the head in the committee for the Republicans begins. What's his name Colin? Right okay not to be confused with the college right. That's what I was thinking. I got it wrong. Eight s right. No you know he. He all his all his yelling and everything the one thing that I did agree with that he said on the record over and over and he was smart to in that hearing. was there on the clock walk. They're all the clock. It's not a bad impression by the way there but you've got to speed it up there around the clock. Yeah there on the clock. There's an election. They want this to go through four history refer legacy because they believe in it for all kinds of reasons they wanna do it and if they clogged up in the courts the courts worried sing. It's GONNA take months one judge already in October. I said I'm not going to rule on this. Still mid December. The new at the landscape was and there was no good options if they wanted to move ahead with impeachment they if they waited three months you know they they might have gotten people they might not have gotten people they wanna get it over with. Not You know in advance of the election. Six eight months. They don't WanNa go through all the summer and convention impeachment. That's so okay okay so I want to pick up there with the point that Michael Golden made right in addition to that the argument. Nancy Pelosi is making today and more recently. which is if they don't call witnesses? Ben Is Not a fair trial and now the real crime is the trump McConnell cover up I will pick up. We'll pick it up there. Damn prop I'm sitting in for Bruce Dumont on this edition of the new exhibit from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame State.

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A new claw-chested alvarezsaurid

"If you want to catch up on some of the dinosaur discoveries from the past five years. Check out our book fifty dinosaur tales at bit dot L. Y. Slash Fifty Dinosaur Tales, and that's T. A. L. E. S.. Hello welcomed I know I I'm Garrett and I'm sorry and today in our two hundred and ninety eight episode. We have a bunch of news including a new Alvarez sorted from Hell Creek. ooh everybody's almost everybody's favorite formation. It's now Morrison but it's still pretty Everyone that isn't a huge Sore Van van all you the T., rex and triceratops lovers like the Hell Creek the best. We also have dinosaur of the day, Scola. Soroush a nice and Kylie's horrid. Did you pick that because it's my birthday and you wanted to against that worked out that way but we also got a request. Okay I see. OTAS. But before we get into that, we want to thank some of our patrons. In this week, we'd like to thank Reza Lucas. An ally were source Yuan Brendan Kavanagh Alberta. Source. Teha Dino Bo Kelly and Richard. Thanks so much everybody. We really appreciate all of your support keep those dinosaur request coming and he can join our community Patriot dot com slash dino. So jumping into the news we're GONNA, kick it off with our new Alvarez Ohrid, which is pretty cool. You may have seen it in the headlines as the Captain Hook Dinosaur. There was some funny comments on our discourse over people like we can't say that it's like a t rex even though it's in the Hell Creek formation. So how else can you associated with pop culture captain Hook that's the obvious way but actually, it might have been named after captain. Hook. So all right it. Is from the Hell Creek formation and the article was written by Denver, Fowler and others published in Cretaceous. Research. And the Alvarez Sword. Maybe I should say what our swords are because they're not the most well known group but they're really interesting. There's super weird. They're generally very small like velociraptor real velociraptor type size like smaller than a dog basically with very short arms like extremely short arms even shorter than something like t rex with. Just. A single claw at the end of each arm although that claw is very large. So the weird it's like, why would you have such a large claw but such small arms? You'd think if your arms were shrinking, you wouldn't be using them why have the huge claw? So they're kind of mysterious group. The main hypothesis is that there claws were used to break open termite mounds or maybe rotting wood to get insects and therefore. Having them close to the body just means that there's less leverage to deal with and there are other animals that don't have incredibly long arms that also do this today and this dinosaur is no exception. It also has big claws and presumably short arms although we didn't find much arms it's named Trier Triarc unctuous prairie insis TRIARC on. This is not my favorite dinosaur name. It's really hard to read I'm not even sure of I'm saying, right but it comes from Trier Arc I assume which is the Greek name for a try ream ship and then uncle, which is Latin for Hook. If I'm saying right reportedly this references Captain Hook's ship because he drove, I guess a dream. Isn't you drive a ship? What do you do with a ship sail ships sail? There we go. He sailed the try room although I think try rooms are road. So commanded a try ring. Something like that, and this is the captain. Hook from Peter Pan I assume it's not in the official description. So these are all just guesses but we do. Now it's named after Rim and a Hook officially wonder if it had a crocodile enemy. Maybe. Give you that small you have a lot of enemies. True. then. The species named prairie emphasis is after the American prairie reserve where was found in northeastern Montana it's a lot easier say. Trier arcus found in the nineteen eighties but was only known as the Hell Creek Alver sewer since then as far as I know, this is the first attempt at naming it and bringing together some different fossils. The type is it's safe characteristic claw and only that single characteristic law, which is four point four centimeters or one point seven inches in outer are clinks. So around the outer side of the cloth, that's how long it is not that big but it was a really small dinosaur. So relatively speaking, it was still pretty big claw in addition to the holiday. They also assigned some other fossils not as the holiday but just Basically, we think these are also part of Trier Arc on guests. Originally they were from the same area really close some of them were a little bit deeper in the stir tigger fee. So there's a little bit of a question about whether or not there from the exact same animal, but they're all from pretty much the same quarry although they're now scattered across the US in different museums, which probably meant this kind of annoying to write the paper because they had to go all over the place. When they were starting in Montana. Among those different bones, there's a partial radius, which is you know part of the forearm. Obviously. Very small since the standard really small arms, there's a foot bone parts of the hips and a couple of other clause. One of those clauses quote the most complete known for Alverson. and quote. So it's a very good claw. Its claws are unusually curved, which you may have anticipated given its Captain Hook affinities that's also its distinguishing characteristic. I imagine. So I thought that was going to be the case but when I went through the hollow type and the list of things that may unique they didn't mention the curvature of its claws and mentioned in a lot of other little details like the. Rue, gossipy of something in the depth of a groove and how much different parts stuck out from bones but they didn't mention the curvature at all interesting. Yeah I, think really what they were going after is that are depiction of what Alvarez swords looked like has their claws and basically not curved enough because like I said, one of these clause is the most complete one and still not completely preserved. So I guess. When people were filling in the gaps before trying to guess at what the Alvarez or looked like they reproduced it a little bit too straight and that's what they're arguing here, and in fact, they think that Monica's our monitor's would have had a more curved claw just like this one. So maybe that's why it's not distinguishing is when they were looking into it, they're like Oh wait a second. Just Alvarez in general at least some of these more derived ones had pretty curved claws. Specifically though because I keep saying curved WANNA try to explain how curve they are. They're not curved quite like a velociraptor claw. They're not like a super sickle shaped claw or like Captain Hook's cloth. The basically makes almost a full three hundred sixty degree curve. This has one hundred twenty-five degrees of curvature or thereabouts, which is hard to depict. But basically, if you have your hand at rest like if you just have it, you're not trying to straighten it out and you just kind of let it go to its neutral position. That's about the same amount of curvature. So it's SORTA curved. A lot of animals have claws at our about that curved it's nothing too extreme, but it's also more curved than some just like a straight claw that you'd see on the earlier Alvarez awards, for example. Probably, the most important thing about it having these curved claws is that helps to support a hook and pull action as they call it, which means that stabbed that claw into something and then pull back on it, and they could use that to open something up like rip open termite nests, kind of thing exactly. That's what they're saying and that would be useful if they do in fact, eat insects that need to rip open logs or Mao termite mounds or something to get into. They also have what they think is a growth series of hand claws, but they referred to those other clause that they assigned as tentative and very tentative. So in other words, they're probably from trier, Arcus but they might not be. could be from some other Elvis Ohrid. But if they are a groceries. There are a couple things that we could learn from it. First of all is the clause got more robust as TRIARC on kiss aged. The bone also got a little bit more dense in the grooves in the claw got deeper. So that is useful because you need more blood supply potentially or. It could be for tendons or different things like that, and in case you're curious of the three clause that they assigned. The. Only one that's official has type. Obviously, the holiday is the largest claw. It's not the most complete one though it's still pretty complete. So you can see a lot of the details, but not the most complete is the largest I think they probably did that because that way it's the more adult like of the individuals otherwise I would have thought they would pick the most complete one but I don't know they pick the biggest one. Easier to see. and. They can't really confirm that their groceries by histology either because claws are pretty terrible bone to us for doing histology and looking for lags and things like that and so they didn't do it anything about our nails get tell much. Well. It's more like the finger bone. That's true. The character would be. Yeah. So this doesn't include the in she so and I said it's like about two inches long. That's just the bone with the character chief over it could be three inches maybe four inches long could be more curved. Yeah, exactly. So it would almost certainly be more curved because it's going to continue that same curvature around the edge. So yeah, good point. Given, the lack of complete Alvarez or fossils they didn't really have an easy time putting together a philosophy of where trier arc uncles fits in the family tree of. Or really where most of the health resorts fit in the family tree. It ended up with a really large group with TRIARC on Kaz and eight of its closest relatives including Monica's from Mongolia about seventy million years ago and seven more late Cretaceous Genera which are all from Asia mostly Mongolia. So it's a more Mongolian looking. Alvarez ordered and Monica's is a handiwork. By relative because that's by far the best known Alvarez Horrid I was Kinda surprised that Albert Annika's wasn't in the group because it's warm out Berta, which is very close to Montana. Especially southern Alberta versus northern Montana but it is in the closest out group meaning in their files Jeannie it was like not quite in the same group but really close relative. In. Terms of what TRIARC has lived with it was found in a layer of rock just before the end Cretaceous boundary and they said it most it's two hundred thousand years before the extinction event but it could be even closer making TRIARC on has one of the last living dinosaurs along with triceratops and t rex and a bunch of other popular Hell Creek dinosaurs liking source is going to say the Hell Creek is known for that Yep. It also makes Charkham on the youngest known Alvarez Ohrid. Known Weird Dinosaur now wishing called Captain Hook the whole time so I didn't have to keep probably mispronouncing TRIARC on Casseus or TRIARC on. Or who knows I? I don't speak Greek combined with Latin into an English translation I have to like by Denver Fowler a beer next time I see him and convince him to put pronunciation guides into these papers. That's killing me. In other news in Japan, there's a fossilized most likely theropod dinosaur egg that has been named. Having the Guinness, world record of being the world's. Fossilized Non Avian Dinosaur Egg these records are very specific very specific. I guess it makes sense though because if you just say the world's smallest dinosaur egg, then it's going to include birds. You shouldn't need the word fossilized though that way. Because non avian dinosaur eggs are all fossilized right. If you find a non avian dinosaur egg that isn't fossilized, it should be in the Guinness Book of World Records for a completely different reason. I guess they want you to know right away that it's a fossil. Yeah and that it's the the dinosaur dinosaur type of dinosaur, right? Not The bird type of dinosaur. If you were to compare it to a bird egg though it is about the same size as a quail league. Okay. Yeah. That's pretty small So this as a hundred and ten million years old, it comes from Tampa he'll go prefecture it's one point, seven inches by zero point, eight inches, which is four and a half centimeters by two centimeters and weighs about point three five. Ounces or ten grams. The egg has been named him Alytus Murakami I, and it basically means small and cute in Japanese and Murakami. I is on her of Sugar Murakami who I found the Titanic Sora Form Tomba tightness in two, thousand six. So the guy that found one of the largest animals ever to walk on Earth head one of the smallest eggs ever found named after him In Taiwan the National Museum now has augmented reality dinosaur tours. I couldn't find too many details other than you download an APP and use it in the museum and based on the photos. It looks like you can see the dinosaurs. Hyphen when hold your screen up to the fossils that are on display, and it reminded me a lot geared of our trip to the Curry Museum in Alberta Canada having that screen except instead of the screen being held in place, you have your own screen. Move it around that does seem easier from a museum standpoint because you don't have to worry about all the devices getting handled and broken everything trails, bring your own device. If you break it, it's tier problem. In Chicago in the US the field museum has a new wife like model of sue the t rex and this models nicknamed fleshy. Nickname. I don't know who got the way I guess because it's covered in flush. Yeah. It's scientifically accurate and it shows sue eating another dinosaur. So fleshy is on display until August eighteenth, and then we'll be on tourist part of the exhibit sue the t rex experience and if you want to visit, you can buy tickets online. There's some restrictions the gym's open Thursday through Monday and then closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays now for deep cleaning. Yes. I think we mentioned you have to wear a mask and of if you're in certain age groups and all that kind of stuff, there's limited number of people that can go into time. Yes. Also near Chicago Brookfield Zoo recently reopened and they have an exhibit from now until November I called Dyno's everywhere and they have forty animatronic dinosaurs including Argentina Soroush t rex stegosaurus and Penta ceratops. You have to buy your tickets. Online masks are required for anyone over the age of two and visitors can not enter buildings you can only hang out outside. And then really quick going back to the field museum. We've seen videos of penguins visiting sue the T rex at the field museum but now sue a rather somebody in an inflatable t rex costume has gone to shed aquarium to say hello to Darwin and the penguins at their enclosure and pretty nice video. The aquarium replied to the video best visit ever we love these quote unquote family reunions. Yeah but it's missing one very important element of the penguins going into the field museum, which is the most enjoyable sound of webbed feet walking on concrete. Way In their enclosure, maybe you can hear them when they're walking on the rocks maybe but the little scampering webbed feet is so enjoyable. In a different sort of news, there's a letter from Marianna to William Buckland that's dated February fifteen, eighteen twenty nine about her latest discoveries, which included a box of copyrights those auctioned online, and it sold for one hundred, thousand, eight hundred pounds to an anonymous private collector while they were only expecting it to sell for between eight to twelve thousand pounds. Some expensive boxer poop. No, it's a letter. That's an expensive letter about poop. And other discoveries. The. Jurassic. Coast Trust and lyme Regis Museum actually set up a crowdfunding campaign because they were trying to bid for the letter and they raised forty thousand pounds in hopes to display this letter at the museum. So now they're going to be refunding people, but they're also hoping to have some cash leftover for upcoming projects in buying fossils, and they're hoping that the private collector who bought the litter will reach out to them so they can work together in the future. In Lancaster in UK, which is where Sir Richard Owen grew up there celebrating their annual dinosaur day this year with a giant t rex on the roof of Saint Nick's arcades in the city centre town and a number of dinosaurs or scattered around the city centre. So people are encouraged to follow a trail. You can download it online, and then once you find them all, you can enter to win some dinosaur stuffed animals and drawings open until the end of this month August. And last also in the UK. But in maidstone iggy the metal dinosaur sculptures back on display, and you can see it at the junction of the a twenty and new cut road at bear stead. The IGGY sculptures a tribute to G- wanted on fossils being found in maidstone eighteen, thirty, four eighties also on made stones. Coat of arms is a green dinosaur. That's cool I didn't know that iggy mated onto any coats of arms rea-. We actually talked about Iguanadon in episode eighty seven and included that fun fact about the coat of arms. I wasn't paying attention. It's been a few years. If you haven't already check out our book, Fifty Dinosaur Tales and one hundred and eight more discoveries from the golden age of Dyno's and the golden age of Dino's is right now by the way. So there new discoveries lucky. Yes. Yes. That's why we always podcast to keep up with the golden age of data's. So in this book, we have a whole bunch of stories fifty to be exact including every major group of dinosaurs from all seven continents and every short story is from a dinosaur discovery since two thousand fourteen. So they're all very new discoveries that aren't in a lot of other books in addition to those fifty stories. There are also one hundred quick fact sheets about other finds from the last six years. It's available add bit dot l. y. slash fifty the number five zero dinosaur ta Les Es Tales as in the tales that were telling about dinosaurs not dinosaur tale. Themselves you can also get it by joining or upgrading to the tarantulas level on our patriot. And now into a dinosaur today skull source, which was a request from Dino. Bo. Via our discordant patron, well as dinosaur four, six two. So thank you. Skull source was in Cairo that lived in the late Cretaceous in what is now Alberta Canada and the dinosaur park formation or Oldman formation the exact localities uncertain. It was an herb or estimated to be about twenty feet or six meters long, and it had a lot of germs clubbed tail like all good in council words. Yes. The odds deodorants were mostly CONACO or socal and millery shape which means nipple shaped. The texture of the Osteo Durham's were rough and pointy it was discovered in nineteen fourteen by Fossil Collector William Cutler in fine green sandstone and clay stone sediments, and then it was named in nineteen twenty eight by Franz. Nokia the type included a nearly complete skeleton. It's missing the end of the tail the right for women the right highland in the skull but it also included Osteo Durham's and skin impressions. The type is in the collections of the Natural History Museum in London. Now I think we saw that when we were at the museum, didn't we kind of in the back corner of the dinosaur hall. Flattened out displayed vertically that sounds familiar. I think. So there's so many dinosaurs there are. Yeah. But that's one of the good holly types that's in the mix. So the type species is scoreless, Horace Cutler and the genus name means pointed stake. Lizard and the species name is in honor of Cutler. who was injured when the fossils fell on him while he was excavating? No. Only injured let's could could gone worse. Yeah dinosaur fossils are heavy. Yes. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, one walter koonce anonymous goals along with and dont`a Soroush lamb I am dial off Soroush acute swamy us with your pl- acephalous tunas but didn't really explain why he wrote it was based on quote the numerous and Kyla swords skulls known from the Oldman formation. Now dinosaur park formation and member eat the Edmonton formation. Canyon formation and quote suggests there's too many ankylosaurs here. We're GONNA lump them all together. Yes. Basically. He said there's only one Genera of and Kyla sore that lived in that time and place and Yopal syphilis was named I even though that holiday was fragmentary. So at first this synonymous was accepted and school source cutler I became you uplift cutlery. Then in twenty thirteen, Paul Penkovsky and William Blows rediscovered SCOLA source and found it to be a valid in Penkovsky and blows found that scores Soares had different cervical or neck armor, and the structure of the Forlan was different from Europe acephalous. They also found differences in the pelvis and armor between School Sorus and Dialup Low Soroush. Because the holiday type of skull source was so complete many reconstructions for Europe acephalous were based on the skull source specimen especially, the armor patterns which are based on the Osteo terms that were found in situ on the school source holiday. So Victoria Harbor and Phil Currie found that school source was unique because of a number of features. So I the square mozell horns on the back of the head were proportionately larger back swept and had distinct peaks second the skull armor had a unique pattern and then third was about the Osteo Durham. So on the tail, there were CONACO Osteo terms. There are also large circular Osteo Durham's with low central prominence that means they didn't stick out much. And then on the neck on the half rings of the neck, there were compressed half moon shaped lateral on the side Osteo domes, and then fourth also on the tail, the Knob at the end of the tail lucked circular when you're doing it from above the club So based on a humorous and other bones skull Soroush was as large or larger than you Opel selfless and other Cairo swords from the same region time non-communist source because it wasn't around at the same time. Yes. The clause on the feet of skull source were Hook shaped. Compared to dial source, which was triangular. There's also referred SCOLA source specimens which include the skull burberry Ribs Famara, to be and more. Arbour and Currie assigned specimen. US Em seven, nine, four, three, two, S- Goascoran. And, it was a partial cervical ring neck ring found in eighteen seventy four in the Frenchman formation in. Alberta. That's now housed at the Smithsonian in Washington DC. The Smithsonian also has specimen us am one, one, eight, nine, two, which was found in nineteen twenty eight in the two medicine formation, and that's a partial skull and a lot of school has source specimens were found in the two medicine formation in Montana. There was another specimen mor four three. That was formerly known as oh Cho Tokyo and that was reassigned to Scuola source in two thousand thirteen by Auburn Curry Pink Hausky had named Oh. Cho Tokyo earlier and twenty thirteen and not everyone agrees with this reassigning and the reason is not everyone agrees that the specimens coming from the Oldman and dinosaur park formations are the same as the ones coming from two medicine formation. However, the Oldman formation when skull source live was pretty dry compared to the dinosaur park formation because the western interior seaway. Regressed so far and the upper two medicine formation also had a dry environment compared to Judith River formation in dinosaur park formation which are nearby so we would need skull material to confirm if they are synonymous or not otherwise they seem similar other dinosaurs that lived around the same time in places school source included the Hadrosaurs like Group Association Maya Sora other Kyle Sores like at Montagna over raptor a source or Mitha pod Sir Topsy Ins and dramatic sors like Bambi Raptor and so on Villa's cheese and tyrannosaurids display disorders and gorgeous ores. There are also a lot of fish such as sharks, rays, sturgeons, GARS, and Infineon's reptiles, lizards, Crocodilians, territories, birds, and some mammals. And for our fun fact today, I want to explore the comparison of Alvarez. To modern termite eating specialists because I wanted to find a paper that was about this and all I could find was sort of allusions to it, and then a few hypotheses thrown in here and there but there wasn't a real good analysis of like this is what modern termite looking animals look like and this is what our source look like and therefore they these similarities they don't have these similarities. So lots of birds have long claws like the Harp Eagle castleberry and Falcons, but there are also a lot of animals that have massive clause that aren't used directly for taking down prey, which is usually you think like lions Oh, they need these clause because grab onto a wildebeest. Dragged down kind of thing not what all closet for especially in Zen. Arthur and our is my favorite group of animals probably I duNno. After dinosaurs living animals I should say it includes all of the weirdoes. So it's the group of animals that evolved in South America after the end Cretaceous extinction when South America was still separated from the rest of the world. So it includes Armadillos. Ant Eaters and slots, and it also includes some really cool extinct groups like lipid dance, which are those and Kylie's Ohrid like huge armadillos big club like mace style tails and also grounds laws, which were these massive things with big claws and look more like a bear than us loss a modern laws. The Hammer they compared to your love of bats. I don't know I just I. Love How they are like the platypus. He's like such a strange evolution such a cool group two. So three toads loss are. Really Weird. You know we've we've talked about Salah's before and how slow they are. How they're upside down a lot of the time and everything, they have very large claws, but they're only used for holding onto trees. So their usefulness in comparison dinosaurs aren't very good because they just there aren't a lot of connections there giant armadillos though I think are pretty good similarity in a lot of ways to some dinosaurs. So they have the longest clause of any living animal period there twenty centimeters, eight inches long and even more impressive is that on average A- giant armadillo is roughly one point three meters or four point three feet long which makes it about a fifteen percent claude a body length ratio or over twenty percent if you exclude its tail hats along claw. Yeah. Really massive claws. armadillos mostly used their claws for digging and then also for breaking open termite mounds. which is partly why the large claws on Elvis ores has been proposed as a way to get into termite mounds. 'cause we can we have this modern analog, but Armadillos don't have small forums. They don't have like claw sticking out of their chests they have. If you look at a skeleton of Armadillo, it looks like they have four limbs like you'd expect on a quadrupedal animal of their size. They're a pretty good match for the Hind. Limbs and it gives them that sort of like horizontal back posture like most animals have that are quadrupedal at least however, armadillos do often walk by pettily because they have these massive claws on their hands. It just gets in the way it's like walking on nails that are awkward and everything. So a Lotta Times, the hold their hands up off the ground and kind of scamper in a more upright posture. It's pretty adorable depending on the species. They have between three and five claws on their front feet or hands as opposed to the just one massive Claude that Alvarez Soares have. But in most cases, especially in the giant armadillo, one of their clauses way bigger than the others. So they have one huge claw that does most of the work. So now it's pretty similar to Alvarez sores. armadillos though are much lower to the ground than Alvarez auras meaning their mouth is basically on the. Ground when they're walking, they just point their head down and they have a long narrow face. So if there's a bug, they're that they want to eat they've along, they could just slurp it up without having to bend over whereas Alvarez sewers there by people, and if you think about like what a Komsic NASA something is depicted as looking like where their head is way off the ground that Kinda have this wrecked swan like neck posture, it's It doesn't seem the most conducive for eating insects off the ground. It seems weird. They basically beyond like their knees on the ground with their little claws down in order to get it. But that's not impossible I suppose and maybe their neck is long enough that they could bend down and eat off the ground without having to get into too weird of posture. We don't have a lot of bone. So it's kind of hard to say armadillos can reportedly eat an entire colony of termites in one go, which led me to this paper called colony populations and biomass. Of. The Amazonian rainforest which was published in studies on neo, tropical fauna and environment a journal I had not seen before and ahead to go there to find out how much a termite colony ways. So in other words, is it impressive to eat an entire colony of termites as lots of people report that Armadillos can do and I found that a colony of termites ways between one point five to twenty two point one grams really not a lot of food. And that's like twenty two point one grams I think was thirty, thousand plus termites. So each one weighs about a milligram very small, not a lot of nutrition. They're still have to catch the termites. Yeah. So armadillos and ant-eaters, which are also in this group have these big sticky tongues they're covered in hooks and they've all sorts of strategies for getting as many of these termites into their mouth is just as possible. So the getting at them I guess the claws are useful for that too but even once you do go through all that work, you're only getting less than an ounce of termites just. Barely seems worth the effort. You can see why there are too many animals competing for termites this way. Possibly because you have to eat so many termites, you can imagine a giant Armadillo that weighs over thirty kilograms getting in these twenty grams of termites isn't really going to sustain a very long armadillos are generally very opportunistic. They'll eat pretty much everything they can fit in their mouth so they'll eat ants and beetles and worms in the invertebrate category they have lots of small. Grinding teeth and tiny miles. So it kind of limits what they can eat, but they're well suited to grinding up things like beetles and termites and stuff. So that's handy kind of similar to Alvarez swords which are known to have quote unquote simple teeth and that's been used as an argument for maybe why our swords could have eaten termites or an adaption for eating termites. Interestingly Armadillos also scavenged dead animals although they might not go there to actually scavenged animal. They might be going there to scavenge the invertebrates that are eating the dead animals like maggots. Because they have a really good sense of smell and they'll dig maggots up out of the ground. They can be almost a foot underground or they can smell them dig him out. So super gross but. This. Gavin's the scavengers in some cases. Yeah. They've also been known to eat small reptiles amphibians if they can catch them one report I read said that they do this more often in the winter when it's hard to find the termites and when the reptiles amphibians which are exothermic are a little sluggish. There's another win for endothermic. You're still a quick moving in the winter you can catch these little reptiles and one of the most important things though is that I found some pictures of Armagh, delos eating dinosaur eggs, specifically, chicken eggs. If they get in a chicken coop, they will eat the eggs but unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of how exactly they cracked open the eggs as interested in this because Alvarez swords there was this paper that proposed that they had these little sharp claws and they would kind of chest bump eggs to break them open with their claws, and then they were egg based over raptor type original analysis. Predators. But the only thing I could find about people describing how armadillos eat eggs is they hold them between their front hands and eat them that way. So maybe they're crushing, them are breaking them open with their hands in their claws because they pretty sharp claws to and then eating them that way or maybe they're breaking them some other way, and then they just hold onto them afterwards not sure use their tongue. Yeah or maybe I don't know if they can open their mouth wide enough to crack it open they pick it up and hit on the ground or something. But one way or another they like eggs. Giant armadillos and I believe the other twenty species, all live underground and holes that they dig. We don't know where Alvarez swords lift but it's been proposed that maybe they use their claws for digging and we know Rick Dromey US dug holes. So it's possible that they have that in common and a couple more fun armadillo facts because I read so much about Armadillos and they are fascinating animals. The giant armadillo is the largest armadillo species it weighs about thirty kilograms or seventy. Pounds it's really big like most armadillos it's only native to South America there are some Armadillos in North America. The nine banded Armadillo but most of them are in South America the smallest is the pink fairy armadillo. It weighs only one hundred twenty grams or four point, two ounces and just four inches or ten centimeters. Long Palais. Let's call the fairy. ARMADILLO is adorable looking. It's just a little fuzzy has got white fuzz all around its size and his bottom pink on top. And they live in little tiny boroughs but like most armadillos are nocturnal. So they're like nobody sees them and they're only native to I. Think Small Area Argentina. So they're pretty rare just like fairies you never see them exactly. It's amazing. The three banded armadillo is the only one that can form of true ball. So can ball up fully even though that's what armadillos are famous for doing. There's only one that can actually do at one North America can't, and the coolest thing about that one is it can close really fast like almost aggressively fast like snapping jaws shut and its carapace that arm around its back is pretty sharp around the edge. So supposedly. It can use its carapace as a weapon when it's being attacked. If something like sticks his hand underneath, it will slam shut around that things arm I think I've seen it. I think I've seen cartoons of that is crazy. It's so cool. Most armadillos. What they'll do is they'll either try to dig because they can dig really fast with those calls to get away from Predators or the curl up as much as they can, or they'll use their claws which are really sharp to scratch at stuff that's trying to get at them. Sometimes, they'll do a combination like dig a little bit and unlike latch onto the ground. So it's just the carapace exposed prequel animals. By the way ARMADILLOS are mammals and they're one of the only other mammals may be the only other mammal other than humans can catch leprosy and they can also spread it to humans. So don't touch armadillos. You shouldn't touch wild animals in general, but this is another reason not to touch armadillos and also eating them can give you leprosy if it's not prepared the right way so I would recommend against eating. Armadillos so yeah. Real quick. A Montauk a little bit of a giant ant eaters and ant-eaters in general. They have large claws as well not as large armadillos there about ten centimeters or four inches long. They have all the same uses as Armadillos, breaking open trees, logs, and stumps and nests, and things like that. To get at insects. They seem a little bit more specialized though I don't think they're quite as opportunistic and they often eat hundreds of ness a day to get enough calories because again, one nest of termites or. Ants only weighs couple tens of grams. It made me think though that maybe that bipedal stance of Alvarez sorts helped them cover enough ground efficiently so that they get to a whole bunch of nests if they were specialized for this because. Both of these animals are SORTA bipedal ish antidote also have a stomach that functions like a Gizzard, which is crazy. So the sand instead of stones like the gizzards and dinosaurs and birds, but they also have hard folds in their stomach that they can contract and that grinds up the food as well. So they've evolved basically a GIZZARD, stomach? ARTHRI is so cool because they have all sorts of weird adaptations and no other mammals have. The coolest thing of all with ant-eaters is they have this long bushy prehensile tail that they can use for climbing trees and they also use it as a blanket when they sleep how it's so adorable. It is one of the cutest things I've ever seen. They hold their little nose up off the ground with their hand, and then they curl their tail over themselves as a blanket they sleep like that since very cartoony hits. So wonderful I'M GONNA post a picture of that honor discord. So check that out if you're a patron. And that. adorable. No wraps up this Vizo Divino Dino thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe in your favorite podcast APP. See you don't miss out on any new episodes and Checker page. Patriot dot com slash dino. Thanks again until next time.

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Canelo vs. Golovkin 2 Postfight

HBO Boxing

25:53 min | 2 years ago

Canelo vs. Golovkin 2 Postfight

"This is the HBO boxing podcast. I made boxing inside our Eric Raskin. And I am as always by my co-host, fellow HBO, boxing, insider, Kieran Mulvaney. I don't know much. Karen? But there are two things in this world that I am certain of one is that when Kennedy Gluskin canal Alvarez fight it is going to be close. No matter how many times they do. It always close the other thing. I know if you get into a close bite with Cannella Alvarez, and you are not gonna low Alvarez where the guy fighting. You are not going to win. The first time around Gennady Gluskin canal Varez had a tremendously close fight. We both scored it a draw and the official verdict was a draw this time around another tremendously close fight another thrilling fight. But the decision majority decision went away of Cannella Alvarez, and we're doing something very exciting year. Neither cure in the end. I we're not sitting next to each other for this fight where seated a fair bit away from each other. Neither of us has any idea. How the other scored it? So I'll put you on the spot. I Karen, I haven't wanting one thirteen of the love kin with a wince with at least one round that I score for that. I so many went the other way and I had score. And I looked at my thought I kind of feel like this should be fourteen fourteen again, I have no property and anyone who has at fifteen thirteen Cannetto some of the rounds were so close by good. A heart thing that has to be seven to five in either direction so about yourself. So I haven't the way that you felt after your scorecard. Maybe you should have had it. I had it won fourteen one fourteen because that is how I score all. Watch the first one three times one fourteen one fourteen every time through one viewing of this. Outstanding fight I had at one fourteen one fourteen. Let's go through the waves of the fight. Because to me it felt like baby tale of three fights scoring wise that Sarah is exactly how I described it pays for. I find where L inside I should be dot com. Is a fight in three acts. Okay. I thought three fairly even in terms of temporarily even. Act for arms for on sports. I think I would divide it a little differently for me when I five rounds. I had no idea how to score any of those rounds. I struggled each and every time at that point. I had gloved up three to two through five. But I just thought it was incredibly close to five then the next four I gave them all the Cannella not that he was dominating them. Although I thought he dominated the six maybe but other than that a lot of close rounds. I gave four straight Cannella followed by restraints glove. Ca Dan the flight. So how'd you break down by very similar? I Dave Cannella glove. One of those four remember, which I thought the seven and seventy was in thank. Thank the sixth and seventh. Right. Cannella was absolutely. Tearing into gaudy. I thought hedged a little bit in the eighth. I might have been the one. I don't have my school front of me. Front of me. And it's allegedly anyway. Might have been like I felt about halfway through round eight Deloitte, consort of press the reset button and began to come back in sort of little bit. And then then for again, a very different fight in the final third of the fight. So I think it's somewhere in those rounds is probably where we differ. It's fascinating, though, the way that this fight ended compared to the way the first night ended those those last three rounds which were where Cannella took over the last three last time in needed to to get that draw. This time Gennady really went on a run down the stretch. After looking to me like he was running out of gas. Seventh and eighth round breathing hard throwing arm. Punches is defensively reflexes were slowing a bit. He was getting to it. And then he summoned something in those last few rounds to do a sensually what can allow last time except didn't quite get the draw from the judges, right? Yeah. No. They're kind of thinking about run nine or so where suddenly a lot more Nimba. On his feet than done at any other point in the fight. He was moving very he was pivoting. Very well. And he was able to get the names that he wanted. I think in Landau short punches of were stopping Alvarez from landing some of those big hellacious power punches that he had been doing over the previous rounds, and he was able to really negate Canelo landing big up because the body and as big up because of the that he was doing woman's because impunity rarely rhyme sit in six seven eight. So so he was able to to some, hyper, I was the same as you. I actually did think might have been not sixth-round actually talking on. You might have been a bit hurt my about shy. He Steph to be taken a fuse rice, the sneaky one and it just like, your suburbs. Acre a moment. Yeah. I thought just for a little bit for a few seconds. He was taking some steps back was trying to sort of recess himself a little bit. But then. Yeah, then he then he did manage to come back. He did look for an moment. I thought in that spell like an old fighter. I had the same thought that that the the age was showing? That the good nautical Afghan of two or three years ago. Looked a little different than than this guy. I'm forced to second guess that a little bit again based on the way that he rallied and finished. But yeah, this was a conversation that I was having with with Raith Bartholomew after it end, his, although he's a member of the media is also admitted Gennady can fan, and I it's been a little tough for him to watch Gennady find meet his match the last couple fights after blowing everyone out for so long. But we were just talking about how can low is catching glove gonna at the right time. If you know in gloves prime would have been different. But the thing is in Gluskin prime Cannella wasn't in his price. They're really maybe there was a little window in twenty sixteen. They thought that you would have said it was the prime for both. But this is the way we're they're, you know, they're eight years apart in age primes. We're never quite going overlap. But what has happened is that they've given us these tremendous. They match up really well very evenly, but also great action than I thought this fight more than the first fight the action Bill as it went along really got tired. And yes, there is a point where I realized again the skill level. Again was phenomenal. I told from both guys were countering each other moving the defense while odyssey better for canal was great at both guys both doing a good job of of slipping punches. And then the person who was off balance thrown a punch was still nonetheless often able to slip the counter that came his way that did come appoint in those final three rounds where I notice that kinetico's head for the first time in the fight wasn't quite moving quite as and he was getting hit a bit more flush. And there was a point. And I think that tenth or eleventh round where for the first time I noticed backwards touching the road which hadn't been doing. And that was the big prince Maricopa, I could not have called this fight more wrong. I was. Convinced. Canelo alvarez. It was all talk the whole I'm gonna stand and try to knock him out. I thought absolutely. And I said repeatedly I thought it was gonna move. He was going to box gonna stick. He stuck to his words. He moved to the center of the ring. He was the guy marked a loft combined with for an awful lot of the fight which we've never seen before Gluskin was trying to find some rain. And it was only really went finally cannot began to tire Lufkin really turned it up that that really that really changed that final third of the fight when Kennedy was able to somewhat pushing back to the ropes, right? And I wonder if canal, oh and his team saws the same thing that I did just it was in the third time that I watched the fight just to just a week or so ago that really jumped out that he was doing his best work when he stood at ring center and mentioned that changed. I wonder if they sort of were seeing the same thing and thinking, you know, what we're faster than him. If we stand there and we'd box, and we trade, and we don't go to the ropes that really is our best chance, but I was absolutely certain very surprised by that as well that he didn't move backward. Didn't circle at all. He really. Stood. And you know, I wouldn't say stood in slugged, but stood and was willing to exchange. He's from so much of that fight cannot Alvis at the pace of the fight. He set the the grounds on which it was for like literally like he was the one who sort of controlled tainted whatever the ring was being full for a love the firearm. We are not used to seeing that happen to your love can not may have been part of confusion in that second part of the fight like by now the other guy's going back with what is happening can always still coming toward me. And in fact, he's coming to me with greater intent, even right? And that's not something the club concede before. Right absolutely end as a went along more and more there were moments of just bombs away. But it was different than what you normally think of with bombs way that I felt like they both remained defensive defensively responsible at all times, even when letting those bombs go, and it gave us again, you know, these guys are never gonna produce like gatty ward type of brawl, but. Just a super intense high contact high action boxing match. Yeah. Just tremendously entertaining to watch. Yeah. I thought you were talking before the paper you went on the air that hey, maybe we'd have some good contenders. By the nights end for some of our year end awards. There were a couple of rounds in that are got to be thinking about ten is the one that's got to be in the round of the year consideration. I think the end of twenty twelve was spun too. But the just the overall quality of it the punches they were landing the ebbs and flows in that free minutes. I think round of the year contender, right? And we got to see a little blood tonight from both men it was in the tenth that I noticed that Cannella started have bloody nose. But then he he had the cut over his eye conneticutt over his I think it was in the eighth maybe cut on. No sorry Cannella was cut in the eighth hard to see through my notes. Quite ernie. And they just kept it was that what it was. But it was really small, and they just kept it from from growing too much. Good thing because it was in a nasty spot. Right. Yes. So looking at the official scorecards, it is really interesting how through nine all three judges had it exactly the same with Cannella of six Rams to three and they all three judges gave Gennady the next two rounds to make it a one point fight on all cars going into the last round thus making the twelfth round a little bit of a controversy out there on Twitter. Those who believe gloves. Get won the fight have been complaining that two of the three judges gave that twelth round the canal. I gave it to galore gin. But I don't think this was in any way, a smoking gun type of and it was really close in the punch stats. In fact, can't judge on the punch stats but the punch that for the twelfth round did favor canal. I'm this gave it to Kim. And that was the round after which I was like. With fifteen thirteen glove. But. So in any case Cannella did a did get the official decision, regardless of how we had it. And there was talk before this fight of him going into another fight in December maybe taking a non genetic kin opponent. I suspected that that cut may keep him from doing that a lot to see what the official word is on that cut and how long it's going to keep him out of action out of sparring. Yeah. That's the thing. Is that might keep them sparring loyal, right? Yeah. Both guys actually cannot. He was a big Kuttan lumped up. Right. Yeah. I mean, his eyes were really both swelling from like the middle rounds on never likes to the point of swelling shut. But yeah, very very marked up. Yeah. It was it was a very physical fight with with almost no clinching other than the cave like headlock behind a couple of those ROY like almost no clenching their styles. Just mesh in a very entertaining, by the way, one really good couple of Rada good things. And that final Ron. It was in the final round, but bumped heads after everything after all the first by after everything they've been through after trying to tell take each other's heads off all for eleven and a half rounds. They bumped they stopped acknowledged the types clubs, then they went back to tear each others heads off, and they gave each other really genuine hug. Yes. At the end of the final bell, the front around that really genuine. Yes. I think undoubtedly these two guys respect the hell of out of each other as fighters, whatever whether they like each other or not they respect each other. It makes you wonder if there will be any should there be third fight? Which is the next thing that they will discuss here. Whether they're going to have to do away with the issue. You hate me angle because they did have that maybe you could put that behind you. But I think it would feel less genuine next time. Yes. If they're up the hatred and Abel Sanchez was Asha quite respectful. Afterwards said, hey, this is the fight. We'd hoped to fight the first time. It was really close. I had a close going into the final round. Congratulations cannot right? I mean, so good not in Gaudi's quote with similarly basically said I didn't score the fight. I'm not going to make Brian make a claim as to who the judges gave it to canal. Better. But that's like in the grand scheme of row spike complaints right on the middle ale side. Yes, we definitely did not get economic love gin sitting in the back wearing nothing, but some rare complaining. So, but yeah. So the the idea of third fight we said all along if this one is called close and the camps can put up with each other enough to negotiate that a third fight makes sense. What what would you say? The percentage chance is the next may. We're seeing getting an hour as by the third time. Boy. I don't know. I mean. If gloves going to do it a third time based should be sooner rather than later shouldn't. Yeah. You know, feels like the. The tide is flowing by the tiny tiniest margins to canal bit by bit by bit. Yeah. And I think he would start as favourite. Although that said this time going into this fight a lot of folks pointed to the end of the first set canola was the one who had made the Justice, and he would up the momentum. And we had the exact opposite this time around as you already mentioned. So. I don't get the sense that there was most people ringside on on social media felt that it was even if they didn't have that score pretty fair. Right. So so now, there's a good case read the guy to make to go ahead with it. So we'll we love might depend on those cuts. Right. If one of them is able to take an interim fight may be they might want to do it just to not see each other Connecticut might be more inclined to find somebody else 'cause he can write go can wait a little bit more some point. It will probably happen. I would say I'm not ready to put percentages. We'll say wait a way to duck the difficult question. Of course, I would think that I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people close to galumph get who want to take a long hard think about what basically what you said, you know, it got tougher from fight one to fight to in theory is gonna get tougher from fight to fight. Three. He's going to be thirty seven years old. You know, does he does he need to do it? Do they feel like he needs to avenge the loss or could they be satisfied with we had to really close fights and moving another direction. And I wonder if the canalside might even look at it and say sort of like Marquez after the fourth pack gal fight sort of the I got my win. Right. Why why fight him again, and and risk ending on a different note or sort of Corrales thing. Again. I always said they would never be a fourth light. Because Barreiro would love to leave it where it ended up to two one. Right. So yeah, I don't know. I think there are certainly ways either side might might come to the conclusion that it's not in their best interest. But I still say in all about my my money is on the lighting third time jumped I'm next year. And neither fight. Has been any way a disappointment card. My or one school car might have been last time, but they have both delivered. But if times absolutely all right. Let's talk about the undercard a little bit. It was exciting. There were brutal knockouts the fights did not go very long how our friends on the HBO broadcast had a lot of vamping to do. And speaking of which I'm talking to one of our friends on the bail broadcast. You got a call into some sudden sudden duty there to go interview Abel Sanchez. I got I was just standing out back kind of kicking my heels chatting tear production manager, Ken Clawson, and a couple of other folks. And my phone rethinking, what are we going to do? And while we had something like an eighteen minute. Wait between the main in the main. My phone rings didn't quite recognize the number is then suddenly I'm getting text from us, and you produce producer, Tom because you really need to go. Rick Berns thing the executive producer and. Brig was like we need to go interview. Abel Sanchez right now. Right. So coal to the bullpen. Fortunately, you're the kinda guy can go into the game without any warm up just dive in there and get through a couple of batters. No. They've got a lot of space fell when they're like digging into the minor league. Okay. Well, I think you've delivered. Hopefully, you'll you'll stay in the major league longer, but you also slumped with down cast. So the first light was chocolate Tito and Moyes Flint as chocolate Tito got the fifth round knockout fantastic right hand. You know, did we did we see enough to draw any conclusions about chocolate or is it just like good to see him? Get a nice get. Well, win a knockout. But we still have to wonder if he's if he's passed passed it. Yeah. I mean, does it physically? I mean, he's looked. He's not looked good on fight night for a while. Like, he rehydrated a very odd way as of yet. I absolutely and not first round. He was quite slow and pushing his punches my fellow. But then forgets that chocolate Tito, even prime chocolate would oftens are very very slow trip. Fantastic knockout and not out of the blue. It was clearly looked like the only question is whether he had the power at one fifteen to do that. He was throwing combinations little bit like the chocolate, Peter. I don't know. It's not quite allegance. But it's almost like watching ninety glove can destroy honest, Marsha Roshan to close fights. And then before another close fights. It's suggests shows that Trump Tito is good enough to still beat the snot out of people that kind of level right doesn't tell us do against the cat and third fight went to the toll guy was landed some right hands on him. But again, even in his prime chocolate that would take Renta land a couple. So I'm not sure it told us very much other than it was very nice as he talked with Eva Gonzales, be solid. Exactly was fun to watch that offense in action against the guy with bad defense who Z who is easy to head the to tee off on a little bit. Good a good to get a another look at that fighter. Who's just so fun to watch all the time. Yeah. The fight that ended much more quickly than any of us imagined it would. Although what David Lemieux you should be ready for any. But David Liu KO, Juan over spike O'Sullivan gave us our second knockout of the year candidate inside a span of about ten that's real tires. It was it was a left toke that put Sullivan down and crawling around on the canvas having no idea where even after made it to his feet. Russell Moore had waved at off. And you might think just looking at it initially quick stop is pretty obviously Upton is is realized what the is probably pointing in very different directions report focus evenly signing that more like a protective shoulder. It was very clear spikers all of and hide no idea where he was quite on time. That was that is the thing with David lem, you you put him in front of a guy who stopped right lateral movement of BJ BJ saunas, for example, and he can be in trouble a guy who. Can box who's got or even like naughty Lufkin decided to go in and Jap his way forcefully victory. He can be in trouble. If you've got an opponent who's going to stand there? Yeah. He's always winning, but winning spectacularly and as long as you can do that you always gonna wind up in consideration for the bigger fights. As a great equalizer fans loves to watch it to see what my app, we know them, but we know his drink and the strength is he combined with either hand. Yeah. Chocolate. Tito and Lemieux both were guys we came in with questions about how much how much of a future each of them still had. And I think they both earned another opportunity tonight and have people see them again. Great and the final before the main event Hyman Ghia K O three over Brandon cook. I didn't think Mongia actually looked great. He was very sloppy very wild. But just so strong. He's got the youth the energy and way too much for for Brandon cook, this was really I thought going in on paper, the least competitive of the three undercard fights the suggested as much of. Yeah. Upset heads. Arrow non disrespect for about zero respect for anything could do him. And it became very clear very early on that it wasn't even just decisive strength thing. It was just Brandon coke is not good enough to be in the rain with honeymoon gear and expect to get anywhere. And once he realized that and he's still young. And that is sometimes the way fights he's just described in the last time around is like an exuberant puppies. Just so happy to wait in there and do some do some damage and sometimes he's imbalance sometimes, isn't and it was very early on. That he was it was just a matter of time for credit to Brandon who completely overmatched gave the impression that his toll and is into the way, and as he was just happy to be here, and he could've laid down 'cause had stuff this. But he didn't he t to this real best. It just was no good. Good self censoring there with stuff this. So. Yeah. Canadian very right there. They tend to be polite. So yeah. Those undercard fights as much as we are looking forward to it. They work citing they were not competitive. Correct. But boy did the main event make up for those guys are just yeah. To be able to watch two guys on that level. Just go punch for punch with so little separating them and just compete from Belda belfry while rounds. And now we've seen it twice. It's a real privilege yet, it really is an and if anyone's listening who's always wanted to go to a fight and is never had the opportunity to go to a big fight. If that's any way in which you're ever able to treat yourself once in a lifetime. It's good with big fight nights. Like this. Pretty special when you've got a crowd. That's really excited you've got to incredibly competitive skilful guys in the ring. I get nervous before the fights. Right. And you get the butterflies and nervous even making the notes, and as it's going along, you can feel attention just from being that just from being in the presence of it all it was on. This was another great great night in respect. I think that is a perfect note on which to end our week of fight week podcasting covering the triple g Cannella rematch. So we wanna thank everyone for listening to us all week long. We hope you enjoyed this rematch as much as we did. And enjoyed our podcast all week at as well. So we're not sure exactly when we're coming back. We may give ourselves a little bit of a mini vacation after a lot of podcasting lately. But sometime in the next week or two presumably we'll be back with another show office the people on it. Sure. We'll do it again. There you go. Oh, I thought you were going to somehow work a born ready there. But at this point after a long time dealing in over anything now. Yes, right. Get people. Okay. Well, that will do it. Thanks again. Everyone for listening until next time. I'm Eric Grafton on curable. Thing.

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