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"alison fair" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"Back in your life till seven o'clock news blockade real WCCO six five one nine eight nine eight nine two two six I appreciate your listening at some point we will talk a little bit more extensively with Eric Nelson who was on location at Powderhorn park he's listened to the press conference and speakers they're talking about the other breaking news so about an hour ago where at Minneapolis city council members have announced their intent to disband the Minneapolis police department and investing community led to public safety six five one nine eight nine eight nine two two six we will we will take your phone calls here and get your assessment all negative thoughts your opinions your perspectives we share those conversations myself celebridades Susie Jones is in the newsroom as well but let me let me say this just to be abundantly clear that whether you are for this war against this okay because not everybody's gonna agree on it there's one thing that you have to admit okay that we have to all look real okay it is pretty simple the people of Minneapolis don't trust the Minneapolis police department they have lost complete faith in the Minneapolis police department that's just a fact now I'm not saying the disbanding in defining what I'm not saying that that's the move right now but we we know we got we got problems we got problems we got we got to face this head on they are not right now the Minneapolis police department they are not into T. that the fine people in this city and this community trust right now there is a lack of trust and that's a problem all major problems and if you can't if you got no trust with the police the issue is is we talk about all the time reform reform reform and all this other stuff the training track in when things don't get done the people just check out near like not this is this is not working let's go to Mary in Minneapolis is a merry degree with you about the cleaning up around the jerk reaction in the city of Minneapolis for over thirty years downtown Minneapolis for over thirty years yeah now you see the good the bad and the ugly of downtown and I can't imagine what life would be like down here without the police force I don't know how they're going to do this or that group of community activists yes I would like to somebody tell me how this would even look at how we work you don't like like there's just so I have so many questions what I listen to their council meeting yesterday on the line to shop around the Minneapolis channel to see what they were going to say I don't even think they know you know I mean it's like yeah nobody can tell us how this is gonna work yeah what what is the what is the what is the plan what what is what is the map it all out four times just look at how it should be like I understand were emotional and quite frankly as a black man I'm I'm pissed off and I'm very emotional about everything that's going on my committee and has felt that way for years right because we see that all too often but in the midst of all of this I feel like it I could be wrong I don't have all the answers but it's not like we're rushing to do stuff like I agree when I think back I think the question because this is outright yeah yeah in a world stock and all the sudden check we gonna make a change we can make a change now right it's like finally you start to talk about call out in the open thank you can't your honor police force long as I can remember you know he's you you can tell the cops that follow him in his ideology yeah it's very it's very different yeah you can put your talk cross a lot of products white black whatever brown everybody and you can tell the white Sox it's not that the promise just added to the market coop and nobody wants to discipline not only in their lives let me say some real quick knowledge hub I can't the reason why I said about the the whole is it feels rushed right there were the reason why I say that and I could be wrong okay but this is just my perspective on it right now I feel like because we are under the microscope because every day every channel whether it's fox whether it's CNN whether whoever it is is doing live shots from Minneapolis and we're the world is watching us I feel like that's part of the Russian like we know what we we were we look bad right now will help us looking bass not bring in Mister Floyd back we need to make the best decision for the city I agree what I have said is we were the March date rectifier you know this is been going on for a long time but what happened in Minneapolis with the Max that got thrown on the fire it's nationwide and because and because of that I agree with you because you can't turn on a speaking about somebody talking about Minneapolis they feel like they've got to do something yup there are not looking at the fact that we don't prosecute people who never you know I'm glad Alison fair but I don't know how much better he is than cleaning you know nobody wants to prosecute the police call long it took them the whole family and seeing what we did not create probable cost apple co founder Steve yet yes yeah yeah in the in the hole in the whole notion all of you know like the are the county prosecutor's prosecuting police other that you because everybody knows that there's a relationship there there should be independent situations like that you do with this it should never be where one is what the what the head of the county where my dream is to be prosecuting police officer it should always be some outside individual being a part of that process I agree it might be no I agree I agree yeah that's what I mean it's like you can't you can't have yeah there are two intertwined in order to yeah they don't wanna you know how he got in and you don't want that letter back call center out that was you know what you guys off come on that was what I was trying to tell Richard in Minneapolis at the lab at the end of last hour like just go and look at that letter and you can't tell me that that that's humane letter at all you can't overlook your well okay I don't get your I don't care if you're supposed to legally be supporting your offices are not but come on many can't do that yeah why yeah I I agree and it I could say I'm I'm glad they finally came to light you have so many people prefer to call in jail the waves but nobody would say his name yeah he's going to be called out by name because he is the cancer you should be turning back and the guys that follow him blindly should be turning their back you too and then we could start tablet form because the one thing nobody's talking about you when you'll be able to do anything the police chief stepped up and said I'm firing them I'm fine for about yeah Hey there's a phone call from Marion a merry Minneapolis I gotta I gotta get to another phone call here six five one nine eight nine eight nine two two six let's go to Tyler in maple Grove subtitle hello eight out eight Mr bush publish the misinformed while thank you what's your well really means a lot to me my dad watches you listen and okay so that should be on here right now wow I'm so I'm so thankful that that you're listening I'm I'm so I'm happy that that you appreciate the work at the all of my colleagues here WCCO radio and I appreciate your kind words what what what what you think about our topic I'm sure the I people are not sure and very few people are saying right and action and look at what people do is bring everything the last option to the table and then weigh the pros and cons and also take input from the people I wish I'm done on short haul and our it's hard to put into words for me yeah it is it is hard thanks for the phone call for from up from top to make a girl I think it pretty much boils down to this thanks thanks for your contribution dollar we are in a place here that I don't think anybody ever thought that we'd be because there's no accountability when police zero that's I mean that's just that's what rats that is where rats because of be because there's been no accountability we are here and it's not good the the headline in the paper third precinct in Minneapolis artist playground for rent renegade cops that's actual headline that tells you everything that you need to know all right six five one nine eight nine ninety two six all right in north Minneapolis I'll take your phone call anybody else next in related so seven o'clock meet Chuck now meet chucks personal information hello made up of things like account log ins bank info and check social security number whenever chop shops banks and browses online his info travels all over the world bowls you ni how brief yet exposing it to cyber threats well that's no good so how is chock able to sleep because he knows.
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Tragedy Groups a Canadian podcast. Will you need to know about this week in in Canadian politics. I'm Alison Fair. And this week I am joined by my colleagues Jeff. Turner Cam Hallstrom morning and Neo Brody pretty good morning. Ra guys happy Friday. It's been a busy week. On on the hill we saw A lot of interest in is this China Canada relations committee. I know you guys some of you have been watching it with interest and and I just wanted to get your thoughts will neal. We'll start with you. A lot of commentary on the Conservatives being a little harsh on Dominic Barton headed as ambassador to China has has this turned into a partisan committee. Now when it wasn't supposed to be well a few things I think most of the questions were good asks of of the of the of the ambassador. I don't think there's any question that was Untoward perhaps dwelling on questions or or badgering during Mr investor Barton About certain topics was a disservice It it as a former political staffer I understand stand the need to have a partisan political theatrics at certain committee meetings That serves your political interest But as a Canadian I was hoping for more from the the candidate China relations committee. This is a as as Ambassador Gardens said This is a country that can't be ignored their got a rising middle class. They've got needs for agriculture energy and other experts. That Canada has Candid handed in most of the rest of the world is reliant on them for certain amount of manufacturing capabilities and And doing a study on this relationship. Hip for Canada should help the government plot its course in relations with China for the next ten or fifteen years But delving into whether Mr Barton when he was ahead of McKinsey did this or did that a relevant question but dwelling on it for six or ten minutes of committee was was is No useful What was not useful time? Spent Cam it too much theatrics and not enough substance. Since I'm less concernable theatrics immortal. The tone and I agree with Neil a former staffer myself who spent a lot. Who that was? My daily Wick was prepping for committee writing writing questions and doing that research. tone matters and I'll be honest. It's kind of traditionally taken that when you have civil servants or people in serving serving in civil service rules like as an ambassador they get a certain degree of respect when they come before committee. They're not partisan they're treated with that kind of respect and they're not attacked and to have seen Particularly Mr Janice even used probably the worst offender of the group especially with his comment rate. The start. Basically saying you weren't. I don't believe you should should have been in this job and I still don't believe it. I think that set a tone that was regrettable and I don't think it helped the case and I think undercut some of the very good substantial questions they ask because really at the end of the. I've been watching. What the parts are trying to do in trying to accomplish in this space and we see the government really tried to talk a lot of current policy and get more information out there on which is needed? I see the conservative really drilling down. Maybe a little too deeply but drill down in specific points and wind documentation. They've asked for lots of documentation. We saw this with Mr Barton or master Burton where he was asked. We want list of meetings. Who you met with Monday? met with him. Once you talked about in Table Out the committee we saw that with the what prior witnesses says well and for the end EP. It's been there constrained in fact. They only have so many questions time. They can ask but they've been more circumspect and how they're going at trying to get those same details as well to me the interesting to watch the block in this because the block. Frankly I don't think they figure out what they want from this committee up there. But didn't they defend him. Talk to two hundred to two degree. The example that I'll give is that the block member Mr Barroso as had basically eight minutes to ask questions and he spent about seven of asking the exact same question three times over that not a sign of someone who's exactly gotten agenda but I think the important thing to take away from this. Is that going forward word. I think the The ambassadors of appearance first appearance. I'll say because he could be so call back again I think it shows you. What's going to come from this committee and give we now have good idea what everyone's trying to get out of this The one thing I will say is that. I don't think that this committee was ever intended not to be partisan minority parliament. There's always GONNA be some partisan angle. The question is how far you take that and really what are you trying to come up with a policy position. That's that helps your political ends. Or are you just trying to go out and KNEECAP recap people make the government look bad and I saw more of the latter than the former this time and I think if that continues is not that that's not serving us very well especially our interests with China because one because Mr Dot ambassador and was right about this we are seeing in the international scene. Now our biggest ally the Americans taking more of a step back leaving vacuum and we're seeing nations like China step into that vacuum to fill it not just between us but in other nations we see them more more active of an Africa and the Caribbean on aid on development. And everything else so we that relationship we have with Zan becomes all the more important because they are taking taking a bigger role on the world stage dumb. The Ambassador Barton said the chill is real is that you agree with that. Jeff husband for for over a year. I don't think anybody is is under an illusion that we're not in a relationship crisis. I don't overplay the crisis word but a relationship crisis and I think that what we're seeing is the division on whether That is a useful moment to change. How we Treat this relationship and and treat the issues that associated with it or how we Continue to try to build that relationship so that we may influence that so I think that's a that's division we're seeing. I agree with my colleagues that in the minority parliaments Everything is political and what we are talking about in the partisanship side is is whether it's too political or not. I mean it's always going to be political political and and I and Mr Barton was obviously the most important guest of this last week A bit of a crescendo. Following a number of public service Senior levels idioms deputies briefing the committee And I think two cans point I. It is a shame that that that some of those people were not treated with a bit more respect to public servants But really it's it's pretty transparent. I mean the opposition has been spending their energy trying to get blood in the water. Because this is just a preview this is just the opening act this is. This is literally the trailer of the the film that we just saw this week because next is going to be coming the Prime Minister of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and other other high value targets. So I think what the opposition doing is trying to scare up some drops so blood in the water out of these official briefings right who've you met with. When did you meet with them? You know D- And and and actually point out in the meeting. What is the most damaging thing that came out of that meeting? That was the the highlight of question period. The next day he flubbed his answer about whether dual citizen was a false citizen or not I think his answer was intended. That in the eyes of the Chinese government he is is not a Canadian citizen. Therefore I'm I'm not having access. They took that. You're you're muddling the issue on whether citizenship is a citizenship. This is this is showpiece issue has actually very little to do with the work of this committee right because what they're trying to do is find those little things to throw at the big the big fish when they come in and bring in and Jerry Butts actually tweeted he said spent a lot of time recruiting people into public service the callousness with which people who should know better are treating him the ambassador and the guests is a vivid example of why so many people say well sure and and and I think that's a comment on our larger politics right now. We can talk about any number of those angles including what's happening in south of us in terms of how people treat government or think of government as as a as outsiders I think But look at this this behavior if you WANNA call it out of this strategy strategy I think it underlines the importance of this committee. This committee is actually a very very. I think it's going to be come down. As one of the more important things happened in this minority term because inevitably it's going to impact how the Canada China policy file is managed in the future and it may not be because we make it you. You know there's some stark policy change that directly flows. You know the committee. It's to be reminded has no direct policy. Levers all they can do shame the government into doing something or propose Novel or good solutions at the government adopts or is forced to adopt by political necessity But either way it's going to bend the curve From starting a couple of weeks ago through the term and this community. It's going to bend that curb and the question is how does it bend that curve As a political instrument that then becomes policy reality down on the road. And so I I oh my only other thing I would just say for those who are hearing media. Maybe for the first time Hopefully on this podcast but in in media stories and other things it's not to be underestimated how important this committee will be for those Institutions businesses universities. Right school systems. Anybody that actually has a direct linkage to To to China in terms of export or import people have directly China in terms of foreign students or research. Money any you know And then obviously on the business skaters. There's a whole depth of relationship there. That committee is we'll have ripple effects on those things they need to pay attention to it and that's why blue sky is also paying attention to give a quick plug for over sure so anyway. You've alluded that we've been watching this closely. And that's that is a good a good point to say We are following this community. We have a product that is available to subscribers and We basically do a full analysis of every meeting. We we give a bit of a blow by blow in a dispassionate view and then we provide our analysis To just try to help people understand what happened today and where it's going to be able to. Because he touched on thinking real real key thing of this about the way the all the different going at it and it wasn't what happened in.
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"The welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Strategy Groups that Canadian. podcast what you need to know about this week in Canadian in politics I'm Alison Fair and joining me this week. My colleagues Tim. Barbara Cameron Hallstrom and Neil Brodie Low happy Friday so there were a lot of things that happened this week in Canadian politics but I think the big story story That took us all really by. Surprise was the resignation of Conservative leader. Andrew Scheer I want to get your thoughts. Neil I On his sudden resignation was the timing right. Well first off. I think everyone needs to thank Mr Sheer four running for as an MP running as Speaker running is leader of the Party and running for prime minister that takes mental amount of personal commitment And commitment to the country to do that and so that That part of of his public life should be should be acknowledged. I'd I'd say it was a surprise. I don't think anybody saw coming Usually leaders decide Very quickly after a after a failed election attempt went to resign right away. You know Mr Mr Martin did that. Not shortly after his defeats Mr Harper to that actually after his defeat I can't actually remember about Stefan. Giant Michael Acknowledge it but I think they were quickly after their defeats ten. So It's a surprise that he may have tried it. Wh what are we coming up on two months now. I figured since he got through the first month month and a half after the election he might go through to the New Year and trying Ryan put forward a new plan for The Conservative Party but Some accounts say he's been thinking about this for a little while. Some accounts say that was decision yesterday. The full story will come out to in in due. Course strategist though good move. Good timing or should he have waited till April or early. You'RE GONNA go go as soon as you think you're gonNA leave a position. Don't don't mess around just get drawing it unnecessarily is is never good for anyone. I was a bit surprised that He announced that he was stepping down as leader but staying on his interim leader. I'm not sure if that survived arrived evening I know there are some s caucus meetings last night That was an odd odd occurrence. Usually when you still tells us step down as leader and allow someone else take over. The reins unanimously accepted him. To stay on you know. That's what I heard which we can new podcast. Some S. T. stories. I hadn't experienced with that one. Yes you do tim from the Liberals Perspective how does this play out for them. Well I don't think anyone's restaurant election and I think that I think liberals are sending back in and watching very carefully with the national executive of the Conservative Party candidates going to do in terms of Jamaica April the leadership race or not. That's kind of an abbreviated version of it. Yeah I mean I ah my observation is is that you know sheer ran a reasonably good campaign right but there's a whole bunch of issues that he was just unable to answer so oh did he deserve to to stay on. That's an open question. I it's kind of a moot point at this point but you've basically lost two months of a leadership race that could have been so that's kind of my view. Is that you know he was dead. Man Walking like within a within two weeks of the election maybe even five days after the election real election night perspective and there was a ton of people that I spoke to conservatives at namely conservatives that of Ontario that never liked him to begin in with whether they're with Max burn or not. That's the whole other issue. But they weren't that enthusiastic but his leadership. I think the election campaign showed there was a lot of questions he just didn't answer for and then I mean the US citizenship business business around was he credited Insurance broker whatnot. It just was a little half ass and then the latest one which we've now found out and just shows how many leaks are is that potentially some of the money raised Within the conservative fund was used I private school for a for his kids So No I. It's it's bad. It should have. I think he should have left a while ago. as liberal I started the HASHTAG liberals for sheer. I did think he deserves a second. Chance was dead. Men Walking ship is held the camera thoughts on his resignation. And what it means for the MVP in all of this well. I think in the long term. The biggest minority parliament is. Is that this discussion. A lot of Very easy life because at this point and we used to be seen this in the past when Mr Mr Dion on stepped aside. and Mr Step aside. You didn't see there's no fight coming from one party. So it makes the the actual governing agenda much easier. I'm of the mind that Leadership Shapiro partisan come to the summer at the earliest just logistics of actually getting a leadership up and running and getting the voting. Everything's it's it's it's a big task to do for any organization organization to try to pull it off over basically more than three months. I know the Ontario Tories did it an extremely difficult circumstances last time but I think this different different kettle of fish. And I think there'd be a lot of pushback from certain members of the grassroots if it went too fast but that being said I'm really taken aback not so much that had happened but how it happened I agree. I agree with the sentiment that if you're going to step aside you you do it on your own terms and you do it under your own control and Dan. I'm sorry I know what Mr Shears Sate what he said yesterday but when all the other stories came out it became pretty clear to me. This was not on his own terms because if it were on his own terms the the the school story doesn't come out to be. That's the kind of story. It's not just Mr Sheer. That's damaging to people within the party. That's GONNA raise a lot of questions with members about how they're don't donations are being spent. That's the kind of story that will have ripple effects going forward and to me. That's more of a nuclear option to pulled out. That kind of tells me that there might have been a sentiment within some who really wanted to see Mr Shiro. Becky wasn't going to go because we even saw some someone's language or wasn't doubling down in the approach for a while and it made you kind of wonder if some people felt okay. He's not going to walk away. Gracefully from this he needs is be pushed in pushed now and having lived through the Tom mulcair experience within the MVP and how that played out. I think there's A. There's there's privacy concerns. It's good that it's over with now. I don't know if what how what was happened is going to help matters but it's happened. It's there and now you move into onto the next phase of leadership race and the hope that comes from that. So maybe this was a case of these reviews of some ripping off the band aid aid even if it took a couple of layers of skin along with it but it seems to me that the one thing I wanNA doubt Mr Sheer in his veracity and what he's saying but it doesn't look like this was just him deciding to go and walk away because I as one colleague put it to the other day or yesterday people who walk away to spend time with their family. Don't tell people that they're going to spend time with their family. They just go do it. Neil your thoughts on that extra story of the funds funds for his children's private school as a conservative is that does that irk. You listen you can make any arrangements for employment employment that That you can or want The disruptive part is you had the executive director of the the party come out at some point in the afternoon yesterday saying that yes. This is all above board and approved and then later in the day you had contracting stories from the conservative fund The the board of the conservative fund that that manages them essentially the money. The party every every party has one of those Coming out with a different Statement thanks They didn't know anything about these expenditures. it's still very early in the process of the first twenty four hours of of what's going to be a story How it plays out We'll we'll tell a lot of boat. How quickly we go into a leadership contest if there are significant changes at the party level because of this A leadership contest may be delayed while they sort out. The internal administration of the Party of if funds were dispersed. And you're saying though then this could be a big story in the fact of how that was managed and then that could delay the leadership. Could it depends how quickly the the the expenditure of funds on if there were funds. It expanded on public school private school. Pardon me And if they were expended inappropriately or without the proper authorization than yeah this is GonNa be A ripple through the party apparatus the the the administration of the Party the political party but the administration of of the Party Apparatus which is the part that that helps manage the leadership process? Okay so tim what what do you think now goes forward in terms of the liberals they can they sit. Just sit back now and take it all win and just see how the cards play out in my mind so think to combat minds one is talked to Neil but this yesterday for the Conservatives Sir looks at the border you do not want a twenty percent. We talked stage. I don't know how you would go down the field. Maybe it's it's a positive half a million dollars or whatever. It cannot be sixteen people on stage the leadership to replace harper with seventeen people now for off walked off in the thirteen on the ballot and it was a mistake. So here's my concern. Just if I may on an liberals and I'm beginning to see it is that they're beginning to believe they have majority and that is actually very dangerous. Because I think there's been a number of cases of really sloppy behavior I thought we had dropped the virtuous virtue signaling. It doesn't appear that we have. I still think that. HR is the biggest at the Christmas party the other day. The thing that I hear is staffs are not in place. It's just a mess and continues to be a man. I'm hearing that you know to handling staff to is not very bad mary. But here's my thing. Is that you still bill. Have Minority Government caucus matters more than ever. And you can't just say it. You have to actually do something about it. And that's my concern is that you look at the chaos. If you look at it with all due respect to Jagmeet Singh you know he did not win. It's a small group. He's in nourished I hold an election. There's this kind of chaos across across the aisle. That doesn't matter. You could still lose a vote. You still have to be really cautious of what you're doing in the house and in committees. I mean so so. I'm willing not to get cocky. Oh my God no no that. That's my biggest concern and Trudeau does that. I mean he's amazing. They follow that. Follow that Cam. I just terrific. Tim said I think this is the thing I think if I if I were the government. This opportunity put the pedal down a bit in advance some policy but but remembering that the government may not fall but there are lots of places a minority government to lose votes to have bad consequences and committees namely being one of them. They to me that that's a big danger. I think that if they fall asleep at the switch there that you really run into some issues. It's interesting interesting. You know talking we the season going to gatherings you know catching up with old friends and colleagues. I did the same myself this week. mcadoo fee France and one of the comments. What's I heard coming back? A lot from. People was the difference in tone of the field from at this post campaign between nineteen versus twenty fifteen. And how how some members of the caucus made a very deliberate attempt to try to set a better tone because as one as one per one former call you buy and put it to me. Two Thousand Fifteen felt like a funeral star starting to never stop finishing no never stop feeling that way and felt like a lost period of time whereas is this group is realized..
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Skies Strategy Groups Canadian podcast. What you need to know about this speak in Canadian politics? I'm Alison Fair and joining me this week. My colleagues Jeff Turner Camera Hallstrom and Neil Brodie Happy Friday everyone morning so we finally got all. The kids are back in Ottawa. Back to school and we kicked it off with the speaker of the House. A comments which I think all of us were quite surprised about We Will Miss Jeff Regan and then we had this speech from the Throne Jeff Let's start with you. Your thoughts on the overall overall content of the speech big day in Ottawa. Yesterday it is just Without a partisan hat on it's always really really sort of reassuring reassuring to watch. I think political science terms what we call the peaceful transfer of power in this case. It's transferring from the government to itself but we go through all this pomp and circumstance stance and we have these We have these protocols and these these sort of a royal prerogatives and all these things because it's a stabilizing force and I think it's always nice to step back in kind of appreciate that. Our system of government does a very good job of evening us out and finding compromises and that's a good segue into what what is this throne speech it is. It is a document intended to start the conversation on compromises and I think the biggest surprise at a top line fine. I wouldn't call it a shock but it's just something we weren't expecting as much of was a bit more specificity in terms of a few specific programs or or specific mentions I think this sort of wisdom going in was that the government was willing to Do what most own speeches do which is paint the sort of broad landscape of the challenges and opportunities facing the country in the years ahead and then proposing how to go about solving solving those and a majority contacts like we saw in two thousand fifteen with the throne speech of the incoming Trudeau government. Typically that that is a a rehash of the campaign platform and the game that everybody would play in. That would be. Hey where's that one platform item seems to have been forgotten and is that a signal that it has auden. was there anything forgotten in your point of view in this renting's forgotten because you you just simply couldn't put the liberal platform and the throne speech and pretend to be interested collaborating with other parties. Not because those things are anathema to those parties I think we saw. There's a lot of shared ground in particular with and EP Social the policy the Conservatives have been opening up much ground to share or a bridge to walk across. I don't think we'll get into that wanted. Eat Yup But we found out if if if there was an additional if there was a ninth were that said oil than Mr Blanchette wouldn't voting for this so I I think they struck balance so what. I was surprised to see us that there are a few more items in there which will lead into the budget conversation with those two potential partners. My sense is the government would prefer to work with the the the blocker back while on the budget But whoever wants to stand behind this throne speech as a declaration of values and priorities. I think every party can see some value in this the questions by these values in playing along politically and what we saw. Some people lead flexing last week because they know the block in the past the government is going to fall today but make no mistake. I mean the number one thing going. Into all of twenty twenty years the Conservatives can't go and find election right now they're leaders imperil And they're they're volunteer basin as a campaign organization would be in disarray. They had to go to the polls two months from now. I mean how many people are going to open volunteer. When you're going through internal party divisions the end EP has less than no money And fewer candidates and have had some serious bruising in different parts of the country although they are trying their best to show it the block wants to stick around as long as possible because their newly relevant relevant again so they they have an interest in sticking around to so and the Liberals have proven leader. uh-huh yes that's right exactly Cam Cam. Jeff brought in there. The word compromise is there enough in that throne speech and will allow the MVP to work with the Liberal Party government. Excuse me this is interesting because I saw your eyes go well couple of his comments commitment. This is interesting because I don't take too much talking. What leaders have to say directly after a throne speech a minority? Because let's face facts. It's just a in. The speech is a statement of high minded ideals for most part. Yes most people have a hard time to scream especially in a minority context. You don't want to get too specific specific and we saw that. There wasn't a lot of specificity. They're eating for a what was there wasn't like knock me over the head. I'm stunned to see this. They're kind of specificity. Starting points the for the MVP even Jagmeet Singh reply to it. Was You know what we wanted to see a bit more we want to see action with all deference prince to meet a throne speech is not where you see action. It's an a legislative piece after so this is part of the dance you see is that you can't seem to be too happy with what you've seen. You can't seem seem to be too upset. And where do you go with this. And Yeah one of the spanners in the works. Here is the fact that you have the block who are just it. I find interesting playing the role. The frankly you used to use Lusa play all the time where he just basically said. I know where I am. You know. You don't want to admit it but it reminds me of the debate us to say well. I know I'm not going to be prime minister to have you know the same right. It's the same kind of role where he can just kind of be how he is and you saw that yesterday. He's like well. I'm going to support it. So that forces everyone else to readjust fast and for the PA how you have to be to be pushing for the things you want to see without maybe pushing too hard. That's kind of the fighting this so I think in the end because the block lock isn't going to back the bill back. I think Mcginn little more room to go with but in the end. There's a lot of things in there that that frankly weren't in the liberal platform. I noticed right away. A federal minimum wage age increase. Something that he's called for a long time and and get heckled about over all the time because just how many people fall under the federal minimum wage get there was. You know there are things like that. And they're the MVP has called for. Okay you can say you've gotten something so there's a few more days to the peace of this as well as people need to kind of calm down the rhetoric a group of it. This is not one of these situations that we saw the last minority where you know where there are always opportunities where the tension was much higher. It's just not there right now. So yeah I heard he over like when we were listening to it yesterday and going over the words in the in the speech you You mentioned possibly that The the wording over handguns ends In in there might not get the reaction from the MVP that the Trudeau government might want the the reaction to past memories and experiences. I wish I could forget To be honest let's face it when it comes to hand when it comes to gun legislation nations general there's history and that's long registry in. Everything came with that and obviously the MVP when that was a big issue at the time it wasn't divisive issue within the caucus us and within the membership It's one of the one of those areas of get one of those cleavages. You could hit in if you really wanted to make life difficult on somewhat and when I when I read quote miles first reaction when I heard that then when I read a little more closely I looked exactly what was said. I Pol these enact handgun gun bandstand. EP called for that. This salt style. assault style rifle ban that something and even called for in the past and the idea of a buyback program. I wouldn't be a D- D did Nestle hit on those areas but again in a in a minority in a in a situation you look at these things are closely how might play out and I can see how constituents of certain MP's will react and the pressures that puts on them to act a certain way and just the unintended consequences. That could bring about. But what I will say is this is that Ah we saw this in the Harper government's because obviously the situation was very different. There wasn't a natural dance partner. You saw a lot more. I called poison pills throwing in their something that somebody had to swallow to get through which made it difficult and and created issues like that. You didn't necessarily see that. There is nothing in there that I would look at. Maybe outside of the The handgun ban for the Conservatives as like a poison pill that was. There's no way I could swallow this. So and so neil poison pill Was it specific enough for the conservative because Andrea Sherr when he afterwards was look quite angry once again and not too thrilled with the contents anti the speech I think sometimes people confuse anger with earnestness or or concern You know people people used to Say See that Andrew Scheer was to smiley and now they say too angry while you know what it's one or the other so Perhaps he's just trying to be more serious Listen Fund fundraising for the Conservative Party of Canada was never better than when we were fighting against the long gun registry That's crass politics but it's the truth Millions millions and millions and millions of dollars poured into the Conservative Party Beginning the day after the liberal government brought into effect the long gun registry Whether Mr Trudeau follows through on what he's placed in this In this speech from the throne regarding Firearm policy is is yet to be seen seen But if he starts down that road We will conserve party will be financially ready for the next election sooner than anybody else anybody else. Any other party in Canada With respect to the rest of the speech from the throne you know the old adage used to be the liberals campaign to the left and governed from the right right now. They're showing that. They are campaigning from left and governing even further left There's there's nothing in here that Sorry right there's not much in here. That appeals to a small C conservative voter The casual conservative supporter There's there's some long-overdue stuff concerns about indigenous health For One Easier access to family doctors Mental health standards in the workplace. That these are all good things That any can he can get behind But as far as a Cross Partisan support I'd be surprised if More than twenty conservative showed up for the vote. Or they're all gonNa vote against it one one of the other. So do you think because in watching the political show's afterwards And my F- My friend and former colleague Don Martin said you know in in all the eight years he he's been covering it in myself as well. We've never seen a throne speech that actually gets to specific. So why were the conservatives like Michelle rental looked like. She was about to a cry on television. Why did the curve conservatives and this is maybe a question for all of you if you're on the party in that in reading in the speech are you telling them to go out there and just be so dramatic on? It isn't a good thing for Canadians to see this drama after the throne speech when there's not too much details in the words start with you Neil. The opposition's Role is to oppose so no matter. You Know Mr Mr Trudeau could've come out and said he's going to increase pipeline capacity across the country by four times and He's going to make sure that every every family gets a a firearm subsidy or You know there's going to be roads built between EDMONTON CALGARY RED deer north battle furred and the Conservative Party. Still going to pose it. Because that's what they have to do. characterizing it as people crying overly overly emotional about it is i. Think a bit of a stretch But the the the message from The Liberal Party and Mister Trudeau and and miss freeland since October. Twenty second is we have to listen to all of all Canadians and we have to govern for all Canadians Canadians..
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Sky Strategy Groups at Canadian polly cast what you need to know about this this week in Canadian politics. I'm Alison Fair and joining me this week. My colleagues the honorable Joe Jordan and the honorable Andrew Leslie Welcome to you both for your first time in the podcast studio B here as a mice. The reason I they ask you both here today was to give our listeners. A little insight and firsthand experience when it comes to the return of parliament We've got a throne speech coming next. Let's say as a former journalist analyst that was I love the pomp and circumstance Seeing all you guys come back is like being back at the first day of school. Joe I want to start with you. you've had more throne speech under your belt. What do you think we can expect to see next week Well first of all. I think it's important to keep in mind that a lot of the things. That governments do aren't particularity prescriptive. They're not written down There's a lot of leeway and and it's based on precedent so so with throne speech when you talk about the pomp and ceremony. It's it's the official opening apartment selection of the speaker. It's the first time you have the three branches of government the House the Senate and the sovereign together and and technically Government can't function parliament can't function until they go through this process so it's up to the government then to figure out how it wants to use it It varies there's been thrown speeches that have been incredibly detailed and then there are thrown speeches. On the and Paul Martin's throne speech comes to mind which I think might have been two pages two and a half pages I'm so Circumstances dictate so rim already in this particular case I would expect. ACT This to be a forty thousand foot throne speech. They're not going to. I wouldn't expect they would get into detail that might cause division in the opposition ranks This government has has started publishing mandate letter. So I think what you'll find. Is that throne speech. It is a conduit between what was promised during the campaign. Maybe what they learned during the campaign and then the language will then be transferred into the mandate letter. So I I think it'll be a pretty general overview of the situation the country's situation and very very vague references references to to Things the government may or may not do to address those Andrew. Would you agree with the job I would agree with everything he said. I think the government's main and focus is going to be on trying to make sure a sense of unity. Is there because it was a very divisive election. I think some of the main topics obvious this you're GONNA be the economy the environment Some trade issues with close friends and allies But on top of all of that it's reaching Ching out and making sure that there's open dialogue between Prime Minister's Office Parliament Hill The premier's the big city mayors and civil society at large and to be fair. I think that process already started. and Are we going to you. You say forty thousand foot document is they're going to be any really insight though. Are we going to get the nitty gritty or do we have to wait Well I think you get a sense of the direction and I think more importantly you'll get a sense of their tone I don't I don't think there's anything in the government right now to to get too detailed. Keep in mind too that that doesn't matter what they say in a throne speech. It's not binding other than in the in the in the arena of public opinion. You're not you're not asking government for funds to do these sorts of things. There's other instruments for that. So it's it. It is really just very general instrument at their disposal and I think they would be wise to keep it at that level. Okay in terms of general public. Don't expect too much. Well I don't think it has that much of an impact. I think it's probably of more interest to lobbyists and the journalists than the average Canadian. You saving your head there. Oh no I'm agreeing. I'm it's a minority government as we all know. I think anybody anybody WHO's so foolish as to introduce a major surprise in a throne speech with a minority government Will probably pay a price in terms of house US unity. I don't anticipate the throne speech. failing I mean the. There's three broad categories of votes that are considered confidence fitness measures. One is the throne speeches section. The second is budget bills and anything that has to do with supply and funny enough the first time that a confidence motion in May arise is sometime in that first eight or nine days because there's a bunch of supply bills that have got to get through just because where we are in the year right and there was article old actually this morning saying that they could face the first one I guess on the tenth of Tenth of December or are we going to actually see the government fall the throne speech. You're shaking no why. Why what's your thoughts on that? We'll start with you enter. Well it's a question of the tactics ticks. Keeping in mind. The overall strategy of the opposition and their role is to criticize their strategies to try to get the government to commit major errors Or things which will resonate with Canadians is to the opposition's benefit no one way to election they go but Canadians have sent a pretty clear message. that They're comfortable with this government being a minority government. They're comfortable with their choices and We'll be tied those who cause an election to be triggered that expenditure and historically Canadians have not reacted well to people who force them to go to the polls and the dead of winter the the other thing is to keep in mind is parties will force an election when they think is in their your interest. Do it You know had the liberals one you know in the spectral of minority governments the liberals have a very strong minority Thirteen eighteen seats and I would probably see the speaker Jeffrey. You can so fourteen seats shy. It's highly unlikely that the the opposition may not like the government. But they're gonNA. They're not going to agree on why they don't like the government I mean so the liberals have probably a the average life of a minority in this country is about a year and a half. I think this one's GonNa last longer The MVP are are not financially in a position. to go to an election and I think the Conservatives are in the process of swelling themselves so at least leadership both agree. Well you never know the Liberals may decide sooner than that they wanna go but You know I think I would not don't want to be the party that you know caused an election on a throne speech in the next two weeks at the door and you know the other thing visit if if if the liberals put something in there that no one could live with on the opposition parties They might actually get a chance to form government but this is. This is highly highly unlikely I would be absolutely shocked that you know. We'll get through the throne speech. We'll get through the initial supply the next big challenge for the government. I think is there budget. Okay Okay Andrew. I want to ask you speaker That that'll come after the throne speech before. Sorry my apologies. First thing speaker are we gonNA see Jeff Regan. Come back to you have confidence that he's going to return as I speak. The will of parliament is always dangerous in terms of trying to predict it having said that I believe Jeff will he i. He's he's fair he's balanced. He's he's I think he's well respected by a whole host of of parliamentarians. It was a pleasure to work with them when I was chief. Government whip He's got credibility he's got experience which I think. Most people will see as being critically important especially the minority government so I would be personally surprised and disappointed if jeff does not elected by his peers. That the one thing that could cause him grief is the the process this time because historically It's a it's a round of ballots and people are eliminated each round They're going with a ranked ballot now and I understand there's three liberals running so so jeff's challenge might be. How do you come out of a ranked ballot if if your own party hasn't got a clear strategy on how to deal with his other liberals that are on it so it strange things come out of that pipe so I I think he's probably doing what he needs to do to try to to lineup? I absolutely agree with Andy I don't you know. I think he has demonstrated. He understands the role of speaker and the heat. The house was very well served By Jeff and minority house those things become a little bit more important -portant but politics as you know is a funny thing. Parliament will decide. Never wrong. Um on what do after the throne speech. We've got a speaker in place. Andrew you both been there What are we going to? What are we going to see? Play out before we break for the holidays while. I think there's three things that have to happen. The first is technical bill which is C. One which is essentially goes back to the miss or the the dawn of time Where the House of Commons was telling the sovereign? Thanks no no matter. What's in the throne speech? We parliamentarians will decide to vote on whatever we want to decide to vote on so that that's that's the first one across the start line. The second of course is the throne speech. Usually they have to allocate six days unless there's a certain degree of consensus they want to cut it short and then by the ninth or tenth certainly by the week after and I don't think too many folk one actually be here for that. There's a variety of supply bills that have got a got to be put into action otherwise Things don't happen happen. In terms of the allocation of funds. They're scheduled to rise in the thirteenth. I I think that the plan is to get all that in and having said that the throne speech just apt to be rather boring. The throne speech debate won't be because the throne speech debate would be the each political party in each opposition parties ladies chance to carve out their space. So I think that'll actually be the more interesting element of this. Because they can then that you know they they can essentially Talk about any aspect of of the throne speech which is an unlimited scope. And you'll get a bit of a sense of Where each party is trying to position itself? Because that's that's what's going on here. Okay so how do we see. The party's positioning then. Like where do you see the the Liberals Roles Conservatives and EP and we gotTA consider the block here which I never thought we would. Well I mean I'm I'm spending long. I mean I think I think the the liberals will will try to position themselves as sort of steady hand on the wheel..
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Sky Strategy Groups a Canadian. podcast what you need to know about this week in Canadian politics I'm Alison Fair and Associate Hero Blue Sky and joining me this week. Susan Smith President and CO founder of Blue Skies Strategy Group and Aena Brody Vice President of blue sky. Hello to you both earning season warning okay. So let's talk about Western Alien Nation. Lot of talk talk about that a lot of headlines in the newspapers It continued this week with Jason Kenney warning that it will deepen unless trio guarantees the completion of the Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Project and repeals or at least substantially rewrites bill c sixty nine and then on top of it we had Michelle rental. Who was saying that? The PM should reach out to her party the Conservatives to help bridge the divide so Let's start with you. Susan what do you think the best way for Trudeau to deal with these concerns. Well they're very real concerns. I think in western Canada and the prime minister has signaled that he's paying attention and the first thing he needs to do is listen which I think he has been doing and we'll continue to do. The second thing he needs to do is reach out to people in Alberta in Saskatchewan and connect with them and look at ways to bridge these gaps the Trans Mountain pipeline. He reiterated and has continued to reiterate that it will it will be that the government is working to get it put in place e sixty nine is a bit trickier Legislation in a minority parliament means means government can potentially lose control of it. So maybe there are some potential regulatory changes that can be made or changes made at the regulatory level. which you wouldn't require them coming to parliament? That's something that they could look at but I think the. PM has lots of tools available to them. And I think hopefully people in there's a few people must've putting their hands to help 'em McClellan is a great help as a start. She's the managing the transition for the government and she's well regarded Western Canadian with a good deal of federal political experience. So she she will be an asset to the prime minister as well Neil. Your thoughts Canto settled the Western concerns down. We'll Mr Trudeau already has elected representatives of both both part of both provinces. He can consult Those are the premiers of the provinces. Just because they're from different parties doesn't mean they can't work together to solve some one of the issues That Returned you pretty much. Holy Blue from Winnipeg to Vancouver If Mr Trudeau is a statesman and if if he's interested in making this work as you said than their natural partners for him I know From time to time Mr Harper gets pointed out that he didn't have a working relationship with the provinces I I don't think that's wholly true. He didn't have Meetings with all the premier's all at once so that You know twelve premiums could beat up on on one prime minister but he worked unilaterally with a lot of the premier's over his time to bring about a specific changes that each province wanted So so I think they're. They'RE AVENUES FOR MR true to go down to to make sure that Alberta Saskatchewan to a certain degree Manitoba in BC Their views I need to be represented in agree with Neil. Actually I think the prime minister will reach out to the premier's he already has. I think he will hold a first ministers meeting though. He's not afraid of some of that. That the the the nonsense that can go on these things but actually think that could be to his advantage. Because there are premieres like premier pallister for Manitoba is a western premier. WHO said you know? Politics is like a marriage. You don't when it gets tough your Canada's like marriage when it's tough you don't just pick up pack up and leave you work at it. So I think there's been signals from premier creamier pallister that he he could end up a bit of a broker between the West Premier Horrigan from British Columbia again. He's a western premier. He was out in the news this week. Saying I'm I'M WE HAVE AN EP liberals and conservatives we're from the West so maybe there's a schedule and now Berta alien nation but does not necessarily western alien nation but I do think he will play a role will potentially premier sandy silver from up in the Yukon. So I think the prime minister will be reaching out to the premier's at most of the rest of the premier's don't want to see the country. Broken up So I think they'll be some cross partisan Politicking that goes on actually behind the scenes as well at the premier's level. Yeah and Neil. Well you brought up Stephen Harper Global Mail this morning. Actually Chretian's Harper in Calgary yesterday speaking and he was the last prime prime minister that had a minority government and says that he should just ignore this. The things that are going on there right now And run his government according to how he feels your thoughts Listen it's always nice to hear what former prime minister say they. They've done the job. They have boatload to experience both Mr Mr Mr Harper being in power for Ten years I think both of them I think that's different I think Mr Harper was talking about running the House of Commons and getting a government agenda through rather than how you represent the entire country without representation tation at your cabinet table getting legislation through a minority government Mr Harper talked about doing things that were publicly popular. So you ahead public sentiment on your side. It was to the detriment of the other parties to oppose that that legislation You know some parties opposed legislation by voting against some parties opposed posed by not having members. Show up to vote so that so that The legislation could pass The the other part. Just get back to our original Topic about illumination. It's also going to be interesting to see how Mr Trudeau deals with Quebec because they the party's fortunes in Quebec Coronado great as I think they thought it was going to be Both the LIBERALS CONSERVATIVES IN THE END EP lost seats to the block The block block is a I think it was a protest vote not necessarily separation vote But it'll be interesting to see how Mr Trudeau also deals with Quebec alienation. I think I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it Quebec alienate this this this country. I'm old enough sadly to have seen the political map like this a few times. Mr Crutch actually in the same same piece in the globe and the same meeting with Mr Harper said I've seen these things many many times in my life. He's a veteran attrition politician as everybody knows he's in his eighties now I think the prime minister will be paying attention to all parts of the country. He does have to pay attention to the message that was sent from Quebec as well. His second. The other person who's working with an McClellan on the transition is a woman named you bet. You don't who's from Montreal Well known in the Michelle Business Community. She's currently our ambassador to France The Prime Minister is a Quebec member of parliament himself. And if there's anybody that grew up talking about Quebec separation and the implications of it at their dinner table it would be Justin Trudeau so I think on that front. I think he's probably more comfortable managing that file but he's got to be the prime minister for the the whole country job. Okay and does he shun the the opposition parties out as Harper's also says no no he can't. He's not GonNa do that because Canadians. Returned with a minority government for a reason. He's not going to govern like he has a majority and with swagger. I don't think that's the impact. I think you're gonNA see a delay. Hey in the throne speech coming in. Because the prime minister is looking at what measures he can identify that we're priorities for his government and there might be some common ground with the other parties. All He needs. Though is fourteen votes every single time the end. EP are in no hurry to go back to an election. The blocker in no hurry to go back to the election the Conservatives does are in trouble with the moment with Mr Sheer yes. They won more seats. But the nicer out for Mister Scheer and so I think the prime minister will be able to find common ground with at least fourteen. MP's on and the other opposite opposite side of the House for at least the next two to three years. Neil you agree to a certain degree. I still go back to to Mr Harper. I spoke about yesterday. I lived through that Two thousand six to two thousand eleven Minority period as a staffer in the in the various cabinet ministers office during that time governing. Like you have a majority is not that difficult. If you're doing Putting forward legislation that Canadians from coast to coast to coast. We used to say If Canadian support it If Canadian in support you know tougher. Crime penalties You can put that. Before the House of Commons and miraculously will pass. People won't show up for votes In the opposition parties Because they know Canadians wanted at that time tougher. Penalties for certain crimes There is a a a host of other legislation that was passed in those five years of minority that speak to the ability to to govern ever and with public support and also pointed out In two thousand six a newly formed conservative government found themselves without representation on the island of Montreal and Mr Harper thought it was important enough to representation from the of Montreal that he appointed My former boss we as the newspapers used to call them. The unelected unaccountable Senator Fortunately Minister of Public Works and Government Services Who got to work? rolled up his sleeves. Got To work Did yeoman service both for the Canadian public and for for the island of Montreal. And by the time the Ritz were came in for the two thousand eight election People just call the minister. Fortunate you didn't worry about whether he's unelected unaccountable get point. Moving along I Susan you just mentioned sheer and all his concerns within his caucus focus and the Conservative Party. We haven't heard anything from him since the election other than the day after. How good is this type of talk for the Conservatives? I'm going to start with you you on this. Neil Can Shear survive all this talk. Sure I think there's a path for for Mr Sheer to survive For sure You know it's been. It's been ten or eleven days since the election People perhaps had different ideas about how this election would play out CONSERVA supporters. That is And they're venting it's. It's a lot easier to vent publicly now than it has been in the past I would say that there's probably just as much concern in the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party I don't think anybody got the the outcome they expected from this election. ten days after you know ten days after election people should still be taking a deep breath relaxing. I don't find it Particularly worrisome that Mister Scheer Shear hasn't been heard from since the since the day after the election. We haven't heard from Mr Trudeau have in that news conference after once. So cheery at at one news conference since then. You know the these..
"alison fair" Discussed on What You Need to Know - a #CDNPolicast from Bluesky Strategy
"Welcome to this week's episode of Blue Sky Strategy Groups Canadian. podcast what you need to know about this week in Canadian politics. I'm Alison Fair and associate at Blue Sky Strategy Group and joining me this week. Vice President Nieto Brody and Consultants Cameron Holzer Research and Hussein shores rate eight that election over and with the result that most predicted trudeau remains prime minister in a minority parliament. So now the question is how will it all work. I want your thoughts guys. Are we going to see the government fall in a year. What what do you think? And what do you think Trudeau will able to do about his platforms that he brought through the campaign. Let's start with you well. First of all All parties know that means don't want to go back to the polls anytime soon And the Liberals they have enough dance partners in the House to get legislation passed and continued government for a while I on the list for for for Andrew. Scheer is Getting together critics list shadow cabinet and with twenty three new members of his caucus that Mary not be an enviable both houses but he should have Have some good candidates to pick from. Do you think we'll see a lot of the similar faces in the same roles. They were last parliament. There'll be some there'll be some turnover Obviously Lisa rate is gone. The deputy Deputy leader So there will be some turnover in in the in the shadow cabinet But there there's a core of experienced parliamentarians there who will get the vast majority of posts. Let me go on that. Sorry to interrupt but Lisa rate you you think. Fill a role do you guys think any suggestions of WHO's been elected I if he wants to if Mr wants to go hard on the on on the On the government he can pick one of his Usual bulldogs And I mean that in the nicest possible way either Pierre polly of or Candice Bergen again a Iron Fist and develop glove or Or the other lady from Alberta. Whose name escapes me at the Michelle Ripple Michelle? Thank you very much He Oh you mean here's a here's a list of competent senior people who can put narrow cam. What do you think? The minority parliament will work. I'm kind kind of curious with the tones willing to be because it's been ten years since we've done this and I think the situations are different this time. Obviously having the liberals in with the plurality of seats as time mix a little different than Neil said angry the liberals have more natural dance partners. I think the thing that's going to be interesting here is the dynamic between the Liberals on the MVP but also what the block does in all of this because You Francois Blanchette the block leaders made it pretty clear. He's not here to make candy work but he has to parliament work and he's said time and time again he doesn't see why this couldn't go for years. I think that's extremely ambitious for minority parliament. But I can easily see this past two because there's a lot of issues where things line line up I think the question's GonNa be is. How does the government decide to approach this? Do they take a more conciliatory tone. Like we heard from the prime minister on Wednesday or does he take Acre. More combative tone. Like be Kinda hurt on Monday night. I'm hoping it's more towards a conciliatory. 'cause ours I think there could be a lot could get done. I know there's been a lot of comparisons made in nineteen seventy two and that minority and I think they're I think those those are actually pretty apt in this case. A lot got done in that parliament in those years. I think there's a lot of possible linemen here on things. Like Pharma Care on indigenous rights on on environment. There's a lot there and honestly I would not be the least bit surprised to see if the conservative side with the government on certain things like on energy development and whatnot. I think it all depends on how the government decides to play their car. Well who said a couple of points that can made their The agenda and getting along with people he said definitely. He heard Canadians in his His address on Wednesday but he also said that number one it was his priorities. Affordability and climate change How will that all work out? In this government we're going to really c measures of affordability and climate climate change. Work I think so I think so I I agree with Cam that you know. It's not GonNa last four years absolutely not I don't. I don't think any minority would ever last that long But it will certainly go over a couple of years I think Justin Trudeau the PM would be very happy that he doesn't have to have coalition government He has a very. Are we strong minority where he can essentially go case by case just like the Harper minority ear out where he can work on certain legislation with with the block so in your to go back to your question on climate ability I think the The Liberal Party's platform resonates quite a lot with the P on Cernan Cernan Certain aspects of affordability and climate change not obviously word for word so. I think that there will be certain. Legislation that can be passed because They're quite quite similar in their approach. but they do contrast on a lot of things but I think The PM will also be happy because you know this. This minority government gives less ammunition emme nation to the conservatives who basically said look. It's going to be a coalition government. The numbers are very close to form a coalition government and Digest. He's going to go up and all that kind of stuff so I think there's something to work with for the PM to ensure that there's going to be stability in the in the months to come and one land one final thing. We'll stay on. This is that The reason reason why could last a while is because You know the PM wants to please Quebec as well so he will work with the Concern on certain policies. Um I'm he will work with certain policies as well so we could. We could eventually see a minority extending above couple of years and actually at the same time achieving certain legislation. The one thing. I'll add that to loosen. I agree what you said. The one thing to keep in mind is that frankly a minimum two point three. The party's house simply can't afford to risk an election right now now they don't have the resources the MVP broke the block is broke. The Greens are broke. They can't afford to trigger election early and they're already going to be having worked very hard to try to get to pay off debts and do all of that and typically they have a four year period of do it. Now you're talking about not knowing how long you're going to have while the same time time so having to keep your organization ramped up to be ready for an election in case it comes so I'd only and EPA you would typically see the party in a majority draw down their their staff in year one and two you and then ramp back up while they just can't do that. So I think that also and we saw that in the Harper your that really plays and everyone's calculus but how far they can push their agenda or not and works on the other side too you know and this is going to carry see how the prime minister is going to how he's GonNa play this and how he's GonNa go about it if he's going to really use to his advantage other people's financial actual situation or is he going to kind of leave tickets foot off that pedal and decided to work more. Collaboratively Neil you're shaking your head along uh-huh agreement with me turn off the lights in here. I agree a little bit with with Cam but in addition to it probably separate and aside for the money is electoral fortunes. You don't collapse minority government unless you think. Your party has a chance of winning the next election so the longer National polls and specific writing regional polls show that the Liberals and the Conservatives are neck and neck for popular support across the country the longer this This government will survive. There's no sense pulling the plug and going back to an election if you can wind up with the same sort of results Next time and of course that goes for the liberals to if they feel like their their fortunes are increasing. They can go to the polls but but a minority government To go back to your original social question Alison. There's GonNa put a CRIMP in the way that Mr Trudeau operates He and his government are gonNA he has his. MP's are going to be tied to the House of Commons. There have to be there every day. There have to be managing votes and managing the the agenda of the House to make sure that irregardless of whether there are our conference votes in the House if they lose a vote in the House of Commons they have to then explain to their party. Supporters why the house wouldn't support a liberal agenda And it'll be a huge A huge shift for Mr Trudeau and and his people to actively manage a minority already house. When for the last four years? He's been able to leave the House of Commons whenever he wants and go campaigning. Whenever he wants another shoe's on the other foot Mr Sheer Mister Mr you're seeing Can go campaigning. While the Houses on but Mr Trudeau estimate sure government stays the same is true for committee management's well not in the cups a whole new universe of possibilities where the government will have a real hard time controlling their agenda where of course in the Jordy you have free rein at the totally different universe there and a lot of things can creep up in committees. That are unexpected. A lot of a lot of good stuff can come from a minority but at the same time a lot of shenanigans can come out of there too in this in this situation so it just opens up a Pandora's box of what it can happen right now and it's going to be a lot for this group to navigate. Well you say shenanigans there and that kind of plays into what I was thinking is that we talked about tone and what it was a nasty campaign for many many thought it was. Some people didn't but are we going to see a conciliatory Friendliness in the House of Commons or is this just going to get real. Well we have a minority government situation. WHO said I don't think it was the nastiest campaign of all time? I think it was certainly nasty nasty type of campaign. A lot of people wanted to have I think Canadians one. I mean among my friends with people. I have spoken to about this election. A lot of people told me that you know they would have preferred more more discussion on policy. Concrete Measures Not Videos from fifteen years ago ten years ago things from the past and all that so I think that absolutely this was one of Of of of a Nastier campaign. I think the tone won't change going into the House of Commons Right after the cabinet is selected. I think we'll see a bit more of that a bit more mudslinging on that front And you know the the tone of this election was essentially set right at eye even before the rig dropped I think during the summer A Lot Industry was coming out with claims. Justin Trudeau was attacking. The Conservative Party. the election started way back in June But going forward into this minority the government. I think we'll see a bit more of that. And I think the reason why is because a lot of part majority of the parties during this election losers. A lot of the party's loss seed The Conservatives wanted to have a Mitch only two parties lawsuits as the MVP in the liberals everyone else gained seats. So the only losers were the liberals and the EP disease. It's true so well honestly I think the thing that to thoughts on this first off. I think the tone of the campaign was nasty because frankly I think the tone of the elector was kind of nasty. I think people are afraid right. Now we're seeing coming for from our fellow citizens West Right now. There's a lot of tension out there and a lot of people are worried about their their our jobs our livelihood. They're the future communities. We saw it in Quebec around bill. Twenty one and that whole debate. I think that I think that a while. Our politicians to a degree guested had to say nasty things and do nasty things I think part of it though was a reflection of what they were getting from the people on the ground..
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"People before we get into people i like let me just shout out all my cancer kansas celebrating their birthdays this month we got melanie fiona we my homegirl alison fair claw we got my agent sam bring gardner we got dmitri lucas we got my homegirl might say we got my the homegirl m l e emmy award winning producer jimmy folks we got fifty cent i mean the cancer game is like soup or the subaru birdie and if i did not mention your name it does not mean that i do not respect you as a part of our cancer community i mean let me i can come up with some more crease summer you know she's a heavy in the cancer game doesn't mean that don't respect as a member of our cancer community it's just that like there's so many of us that we are number in such domus that i sometimes just like just you know can't keep all of the doping in my mind at one time so i apologize but one of the illinois cancers out here and someone who's always been like a big supporter of mine is charlemagne the who is a full cancer was somebody who has actually you know really dealt with anxiety in his new book shook one which is coming out soon and you can preorder it as of right now is all about anxiety and him dealing with anxiety and ptsd and trauma and the beauty of like how therapy has helped him to handle that and i think like him being very vocal about this especially as a black man especially as a black man from the south especially as a black man from the hood is incredibly important because so many of our brothers just don't feel like dealing with this is something necessary because they've almost come to feel like it's just a necessary part of life like they just take it as like it's a right of passage they take it as like it's a part of being a black man that you're going to have to deal with these things and i think what charlemagne did in terms of this book and being able to be very vocal about his anxiety and his piece ptsd he makes it a more accessible for people to understand that like no you don't have to live with that every day no you don't have to have to figure out how to ignore panic attacks no you have to manage these things you have to get to the bottom of like what's causing them like you know you don't have to ignore triggers you simply don't have to be unhappy and you don't have to have people around you that are unhappy life for all intents and purposes like you really truly can live a more peaceful life like that's a real thing that can really happen and it and it it it's in your it's in your hands like you have agency and doing that and sometimes i especially coupled with depression can make you think that you don't it can make you feel like you don't have the wherewithal within you to get to a certain level of happiness and you know sometimes you need to be medicated sometimes there's a certain regimen that you need to employ sometimes it's a certain diet sometimes there's just simply like just techniques you know but when we don't know about these things when we don't face that these are real things that really affect us we don't give ourselves the opportunity to gain the access to figuring out how to manage them to have a little more fulfilling healthy quality of life so my people i like is is charlemagne for putting out his his experience in his book shook ones now available for preorder and of course we're going to have him on the show at some point and you know it's like it's a different kind of me too you know it's like just saying like hey like.