20 Episode results for "Algiers"
#608 Not by Bread Alone (Deuteronomy 8:3)
"Pre the word with David Platt is a resource from radical dot net. Deuteronomy chapter eight verse three and he humbled you and let you hunger and fed with manna, which you did not know, nor did your fathers know that he might make you know, that man does not live by Brad alone. But man lives by every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. So this I is recounting what God did back in accidents providing bread from heaven for his people on a daily basis and here God is telling us why he did that he did that. So that they would know that they live like their sustenance is based not on bread alone. But on the words of God on the provision of. God in his word in other words, more important than breakfast for you and me. Is the word of God. More important than lunch or dinner or snack is the word of God. Obviously this versus about hunger in God, providing food, but at this point, I would just encourage each one of us to consider the place of fasting in our relationship with God. I don't know how regular fasting might be in your relationship with God. But I want to encourage you to make it a regular part of your relationship with God. To physically put aside food for a meal for a day for longer if God leads and to say more than I need physical food, I need spiritual nourishment from God's word, and this is a good discipline. That Jesus expects us to do the scriptures show us how to do and call us to do. So I'm encourage you to fast, and the reason I mentioned that here is because that is one of the clearest ways that we can see we don't live by Brad alone. But by every word that comes from the mouth of God. So we set aside food we substitute the time we would eat in prayer and study of God's word, and when we get hungry we say more important than a sandwich our snack right now is the word of God to me. So God, we pray you'd help us too. Learn this you are obviously teaching your people in the Old Testament. This we wanna learn that we don't live on bread alone. But on every word that comes from your mouth, so help us to be a people sustained by your word. Help us to value your word more than we've value daily food. In. God we pray that you would use are fasting. The you would use are setting aside of food to teach us that your word is sufficient in a way that no meal in this world can compare with God help us to honor you with our fasting in this way. Please make us a people we pray for life. I pray this for those who are listening right now. Who know this no make us a people who know who learn from you to feast on your word more than anything else. This world offers us and then oh, God just driven today to pray for people who don't have your word God for the show Wia Berbers in Algiers. The don't have your words over two million of them. They don't have a complete bible and their language God replay. We live on every word that comes from your mouth, and they can't live without your word. God, please. Please bless those who are working to translate the bible among them. God please caused that bible. Translation to become a reality. God reprinted Schweitzer Berbers in Algiers would have your word and have life in it. Please use are giving are working in our churches toward that end. We pray. The day might know man does not live on bread loan. But on every word that comes from the mouth of God in Jesus name. We pray. Amen.
668: Prospecting on LinkedIn - Millie Gulley
"You're listening to the daily sales tips podcast. And i'm your host scott and grub. Today's tip is a clip from the newest sales success stories episode that we just released today featuring millie goalie who is the top. Sdr sprinkler before her very recent promotion to an account executive role. It also fits nicely with our release of the final update to the lincoln sales. Starr's top one hundred list for the year. Here's really i think. My favorite thing to do is to leverage lincoln because lincoln is such a great way to build relationships with people that are in like these awesome industries in different verticals. But for me. I feel i really most of the building relationship and knowing the right time to turn it into like a soft goal to action. So you know as i prospect all always know if i'm just gonna email say ten people today from that company. I will go ahead and add as many people from that company across all product. Line that i could potentially talk to you right. Maybe they're not the number one or today's already. But i'm gonna add them so i can eventually get to them on linked in because it's easy way to get wins and for me. I'll always look at the profile. A leveraged the research. I've done for the emails and once they've accepted my connection request. I'll always look for a way to pass lies. That that was a gal once from kentucky. I forget which company shows up but she she was from kentucky and i told her this story about how me and my mom would traveling across the country and we went to cracker barrel and we thought it was the only restaurant that we hold. It was the only krakauer in america and then we got to the next day and realized it was a chain and so i told her that funny story and she found it hilarious and we went back and forth for a week and was like. Hey i see you do this like you know. We work with xyz You know see you open to learning a bit more about this. And lincoln i think is just such a great way to build rapport and build a relationship before you. Just you know oscar Can i just spend a bit of time like learning more about your role. And secondly only than i love sending videos so if someone accepts request and fills right like algiers plot wife phone and i will send them a really personalized video for example. Like hey scott i sawyer. Recent post i love that you said this and this adding a personalization and then just throwing out similar kind of mo. full malik we walk with xyz. I see you do this. I imagine like this and this headache you know. Would you be interested in learning a bit more about how you walk in your space. And i'll send the video and i found it super effective right because it's a way to stand out and that's that's really. What makes you successful like. You need a stand out from the sea of people that are trying to get to them so i would definitely recommend like lean on those videos. Yeah so couple of questions there. So as as you're sending out those initial connection request you're kind of going. Broadly across the account. Are you personalizing the connection requests or you coming back with personalization. Once they accept. I always play around of it and i think it depends if they seem like a a real change agent and they vary social than. I'll throw out like a little message when i do. Send the request. But for the most part i have found like a pretty successful connection rate which i'm really fortunate about because i know that not everyone has found that and then i'll go in with a very personalized note because to me if someone's accepting Accepting that initial requests like. They're open to conversation whether it be about. Sprinkler is another story but there are at least open for me to say like. Hey thank you for accepting an a lies note. So i'll lead on it for like the change agents and like the number one i want but the most part like what helps me kind of spread. Wide thin is sending as many of those and then leaning on the one side except for link to millie's episode and to the lincoln sale stars list. Just click over to daily sales dot tips forward slash six sixty eight m. We'll have everything for you there. Then be sure to back tomorrow for another great sales tip. Thanks for listening.
23: BB Guns, What's in a Name?, 1st Impressions, Kinda Burpy
"It's bill. Golly, it's Holly jolly pot. I'm your host Corbin hostess. Julie? We're co captains, navigating the stormy seas of life. Bill. What's in it? First impressions and kind of. Welcome to Advil. Thanks for joining us for this family friendly variety show. Hey Corbin, did you know that there's a mysterious side of me that I don't often show to people? This is a shock. Well, I revealed it today. You'll ever guess to who dope because I won't even try. That's the only way to be sure. Outline? To group of eleven year old girls. I showed them all that. I love shooting things. That's so mysterious. So today, I got to go help out at a little day camp at church and for eight to eleven year old girls. And it was really fun. And the last activity, we got to do was shooting BB guns and those girls will never disrespect you again, because they know I could shoot them in half because they're full of BBC's. Pump you full of BBC's. That's right. Was a pump action. It was. I mean I'm not very well versed and BB guns today was the first day I ever shot one. So I, I don't know. Okay. I don't know the terminology. I just know how to kill. So true, but. I guess the guy who has been who was there with the BB guns has come in previous years. And no one had ever shot a cannon half. But three groups had done it previous to us today, but we shot to Ann's in half. Were you one of the canon half shooters? I contributed a bit. But I was more focused on my own. Can I really wanted to shoot it and half all by myself? They didn't he just pumped full of BBC's. I brought home the can. How have you not shown me yet? I've been waiting for this very moment. Well, soon as we're done recording, we will scurry down, you can show me your can. And how messed up it is. One of the girls cut her finger while she was retrieving her cans. Oh, well that makes Spanish harp, but it reminded me that I just love having great aim. It's just something I love about myself. Because I love archery. I've done a different kind of shooting before. I love. What other things require rowing knives. I love throwing knives throwing axes throwing children throwing cow patties I've done that. Oh, yeah. Get you down home and relatable. I've so well rounded. When you get an ounce your bid for president. Oh boy. Well, you know TIs the season. Hey, because what, what we're recording another episode of this show called pod Ville, just like we did last week. Remember last week? No, not at all. No last week was great. We had a very special back door pilot season episodes of Ville. That's right. That was a long time ago. It was days and days ago. But we had a lot of ideas for new podcasts come in from some other members of the Chatfield gang. Yeah. Visiting and so if you have not had a chance to listen to it just back up go back in time. Well, well back yourself right up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They don't have to go back in time. It's just available on our feed. Just go people down to the next five games. And then you'll see it and be like oh, great anyway, you listen because it's great. But one of the things we forgot to do as part of our. Backdoor pilots, his we when we were thinking of what to call this podcast or what this podcast was even going to be about. We brainstormed all kinds of ideas. And so we wanted to share if you of those names with you, so you can either realize that we are fools for to'sink pod Ville, or be so grateful, that we're so wise and chose pop Ville instead. Now here's the, the back story of this. Our original idea for this podcast was to have it be like a, a dating slash relationships slash restaurant review podcast. It's like the perfect combination of things. And so we trying to come up with names that had something to do with food at something to do with love. And so here's here's a smattering of what we came up with dining and Weiming about your spouse. That's a good one. Dinner and a romance. I don't get that one. What does this list? I feel like I have not heard all of these ones. Do I have a different? This was my private list that I kept in my notebook. Oh, my these are new to me. I pull up my list we can compare notes. I think that you would tell me some and then I would write it down in my notebook. But I'm sure I told you all of them on my list. Let's see what else we got. Here's one I know you know, relationships and dips s. Probably the best one. Here's what getting in the food getting in the mood. Only the mess messy food experiences. Okay. Here's my favorite one make out takeout. That's a good one could have been corporate. It could have been, I think all your favorite ones include making out for some reason. The world may never know why getting food in the mood. Feel like we're recycling some same ideas in some of these. Here's a good one eating, our feelings. A second. Okay, here's good one love sandwich. I love sandwiches who here's one in your very own handwriting. A picture. Yes. Why you're having reading. Makes it I took a picture of my notebook page because the night through my notebook away the lazy man's way of remembering stuff, very good. Okay. Here's one in your very own handwriting touching and munching. I wanted it to rhyme, so bad. Oh, you did I give up my listener longer exists because there was other than the food and relationship advice and dating and whatever idea, we had a few other concept ideas. One of them would be going through different songs, and explain some, some version of listening to the song together. Being nerdy about it. And you just kind of saying how you feel about the song. And it was going to be singer song liquor. That's right. But then there was too many issues with copyright just hard to get around when we wanna make money on our podcast. Why would we do a podcast of didn't want a role in the dough monetize that why we do this? This is our main source of income. My other job for fun. I'm so glad that's not true. Cool. Well, that is our list of podcast, names thinking about what's upon a time, aren't you? Glad that we didn't do them. Are you glad that we told you now? Are you disappointed that we made such a bad choice in not doing let us know? We always like feedback around here. I'm very glad that we chose not to do one centered around eating because that would have been really hard when I was feeling morning sick. How would you rate this? It's all terrible every terrible. Hard times. You know what that sound means? Yeah what's our game this week? Julie? Well, let's see. I precious. That's the one. How's your first impression of remembering the game that we're doing? Well, you know what? That's why I have a phone. So I don't have to remember stuff. I keep my brain in my phone. The future. The first or shall I go, first to tell them what the game is the now? Jur fell what the game is sure to explain the rules, so that I cannot circumvent them in order to win now. I feel trapped. You should be the one feeling trapped by rules. All right. The rules are one of us as a word. Other person's has a word. That's all the rules. Everyone is a winner man. I just had everyone's a winner. Last time we played though, I did a lot of rhyming, and you did not seem to be pleased with that. It's not about rhyming. No, no. No rhyming. Fine. Well Romney's not fine. Opposites are especially bad. Because I don't know how that's work. When the main points of strain in our marriage. What are opposites? Like a diagnosis for someone who just cannot understand opposites. Titis Naba Titus. No. You got a list of words for me. Sam associate with them freely. You'll love the first one ready. I'm ready oil, it I should point out before when we played this game we've pulled these off the internet. But these are artisanal handcrafted lists made by the sweat of browse. Speak for yourself. Oh down the rules. I just do lazy to with Melissa random words. What am I took? Chenier. I keep my brain in my phone, I've already said that. And I keep my words on the internet. I can find them if I need them. Oh, so true bless you the Sorus. Alright lay it on me baby. Okay. The first word is economic. Wrecking ball. What? As an economist, I thought you would have different feelings, or different. I conclusions. I have a lyric, but I've always wanted to use. That's she's an economic wrecking ball. Just looking for a check. There's lots of in there and I like some good. Consonants alliterate. All right. All right. All right. I won't do that for every word. I promise just most of them. Okay. Great. See fairer. Seafarer. Not that kinda see. Oh. Inga dog. That kind of see. Yeah. Okay. Great nailed it pedestrian. This makes me think of the word pedestrian. But just saying like pedestrian like very condescending. Let's so pedestrian. So, don't I didn't think of a word I thought of mood. There you go. The rules are. I say word and you say word back, let's say a mood back, but I do. And who cares about rule obviously not us for suckers. Bulletin board. Hero worship. Al Al Larry. I will Larry. Spooky spouses reference from this week. Vicky spouses, check it out. They have a spooky phone line. You can call in do it. And the number is. Eight six seven three ah spooky. Yeah. I. M. That kind of I ball. Recovery. Unit. Dark thirty. Oh boy. Jealous rage. There you go. That's more what I would expect from you. Gotta expect a jealous rage alpha male after all. Shot up from Shelley has opinions into lots of podcasts. That's it. Great. Are you ready for my words? Yeah. From words to blow your brain away. Yes. Okay. Salad tongues. That's what I would have said to Mike. Purposeful. Crayon. A great children's book, the purposeful crayon. A purposeful, at for some reason for herald, the purple crayon. You're welcome. Q. E. D. Right. The skate. No paper clip. That's what I think of when I hear to Ono paper clip. Escape, maybe think of office, maybe think of supplies. Why don't you just go for the first word that you think that's like three things down the track? Because I panicked my brain started going to million miles an hour, ended up at paperclips. Oh, gosh. It's so true. And this is a list of words, you have come up with out of your own brain. Yeah. Just wanna make that cleared everybody. Yes, your brain throws off my brain. So I keep you off balance already. Yes. Sorry apologize. Like, if I were to use it in a sentence, I would say, I'm sorry, I chose the word up escape. Furious. Me. So furious all the time. Curious. George b. Dodger? Corbin. Your monster? You talk about nostalgia all the time I do. And I, I very self conscious saying the word. Dear do you wish you said it? No Sasha thing there. Thing or Jia nostalgia, nostalgia Stahl Jia. I would say a harder a nostalgia the style, the style. That's the different condition. Get to take your nostalgia before you go outside. I can't even imagine what that could be so g medication. Obviously. You got Algiers allergies Algiers and say no to those algae is take this no style. Boy, is that our ad for this week. Nope. No style. Penultimate. Second to last. Guess which order that word in my list. Why is it taking to laugh its third to last? He. Boardwalk. Board game. Great. And now the last word. Turquoise? Shelley. Turquoise? She's my sister. Why does she live in Arizona where the land of turquoise jewelry too much temptation? Just be covered insurance. Head to toe Torp walls. Great. I'm so glad that we're playing this game. It's so fun. I'm so glad I'm winning now. Need to take a little break to read an ad. And then we come back, we'll take things to the next level level two and. And now a word from our sponsors. Guardians of sleep like loyal ever alert sentinels stationed throughout distilling night long. 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I understand that because sometimes I sleep poorly because I think my alarm is not going to go off, for some reason unit alarm specially toned for a heavy sleeper, because that's me. What do you think a heavy sleepers alarm sound sounds? Nowadays, are nineteen twenty nine twenty nine oh, probably just allowed her Bill. A light sleeper tone justed for. Is there such a thing as a quiet bell? This is just one one single. Chime. Week. That'd be so well be your clock would be. And each other just very matter of factly. It would be. Hint at such reasonable prices, we can both get the ones that we need. Each of us having our own clock. It's the height of luxury. But it's okay. I don't think the stock markets crashed yet. Then the depression hasn't started yet by all the clocks. We're never coming down on this is it's the roaring twenties. I know so much about history. And clocks now to clocks with an x. I know having the name of this have an exit and then also them talking about sentinels, definitely makes me think of X men. The sentiment will watch over you, and make sure none of those dirty mutants bother you lie you sleep. Now rest. All right. We're back for more student Russia. Glorious. As my first impression of that. Beautiful thing is just did great. All right. Here we go. Benefit concert. Register reginald. Gay Reginald register. That's got to be a little character. It's like a corduroy style and quarter went up to the register as thinking, Richy riches friend. I know nothing of this Richie rich of what you speak. That was a fun sentence. You're welcome. Save the way. Do it world. Always stor. Discuss disgust. The past tense, please. Soft sharman? Well, go Sharman. That's not even add I am just reeled in by those bears. And they're coming clean butts. Preference. Order. Thirsty. There's cops. That's not even a podcast. How dare you reference? SNL referenced television television. What's it called? It's been so long. Okay, here's a word prove it. It's not an English word. But it sounds like an English letter. Don't be fooled. Boy. Oh. Canada. E. A. U. X. I don't know. You don't even know French. Just say at other French word. Oh means water of means. Get yourself a nice little stack. Just. That AIG into your water. Mix it up. No tonight shake. I can't no. Poached ache. Almost worse. People actually expect you to eat that. Last word. Rid. Dragon. Reagan's ridge or the ridges on a dragon's back. What if I said it like this ridge Pringles? Right. Right. Why not? Oh, you're limbering up. I'm limbering up for some hordes. I'm ready. I word red yellow. Green now. Night. Shade. Throwing some shade at night. Pottery. Hera. That's exactly what I. Our minds. Becoming live. Who he'll? Caveman. Dab the oh. A lot of my words are dedicated to people. Yeah, just think about relationships. That's very powerful. Do cool like relationships and dips. Slide. Playground. Dirge. Sturt. Dirge that you sing at the funeral after someone dies on a slide while dabbing Yanks say that five times fast. Quixotic. Quicksand, cool. Parchment. Paper. Last word. Oh. Dubious. Legal substances. Dubiously legal substances. I did not think about this until I read this out loud, but dubious socially sounds like a Harry Potter characters name Dubya, Snerdley. I spell. Dubious to be Kate to defy to do to be asked to be like. Yeah. Can't just dubious gotta be Dubya. Sometimes it's just a word obliviate. I can't get into this right now. Dubya smuggle. Hey, we did it. We did that is a game called first impressions. And it's fun to play. You can make up your own words. Well, got your own words, people can make up their own words like ruby does. No way. No way. She often speaks intones. It's okay. That sound means ladies and gentlemen, and citizens. Also citizens of pod Ville musicale selection. Remember to push that aero your mouth hole. This. Cast. Cata. Act. I'm. This. Well folks, we've done into get. And we have to ask ourselves, the question why, why have we done it? I often will add, it this podcast and songs for this podcast while on my commute. And while I was on the bus today putting together this song and working on it. I thought, what, what has led Bahir, what is my life because it come to this. But it didn't stop you. It did not even slow me down. In fact, it might have just sped me up like let's get this over with. Yeah. So if you'd like to let us know whether or not, you will ever forgive us, you can reach out to us. The interwebs on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook or pod, Ville dot com. Julie? Do you have any recommends this week I do? I've been reading a lot lately. And one of the authors I have been enjoying is Sarah e Ladd. So she has written a series called treasures of Surrey. It's a regency, romantic slash mystery slash. What's gonna happen? Kind of series is regency, a John RIA. Let's say. Yeah. Like, like pride and prejudice city era attends a regency story. It is a regent. I don't know how that term came to be. I don't know how words work. But if I were to say regency you'd go. Oh, yeah. Like pride and prejudice. From now on I guess I've been educated. So a super tapped into that world. I'm deeply tapped in well, if you wanna raped up read up on it. Nope. All that I need to know Sarah elad read the region of regency treasures of Surrey, or I read her whole series whispers on the movers a while ago it really liked it. Okay. Okay. Do you have any recommends? I do. I recommend four five six to eight four nine one eight nine eight three. That's my friend code. Wizards unite the Harry Potter game. Want to be my friend. Plug it in nerds. Let's be nerd friends. Check in check it out. I mean, the kids have been big Pokemon go fans and. The latest from Niantic, the folks who brought you Pokemon go. And just kind of walking around figuring things out. Unlocking some port keys instead of hatching eggs. Porkies always boot. Always a boot in this game. Why not a trophy? He don't wanna touch that you might not want a hopeful puff. Of course. I don't. Oh, gosh. Anyway. As always our musicale selection was brought to you by superhero sandwich. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. You're such a man to it. Reverend. Interrupting me. You do it. The era sandwich. I liked it. I liked it at the same time hated it. I just perfect. Oh man. Listen to so many births. You have a lot on file do stored away. For any day. So that that's on. You do what I say, let's get some hey, why swing and sway? So, so. Yeah. Big for visiting us here on Bill come back next week. It'll be fun. Are you ready for me to stop talking? Always.
Episode 13. AlgaTalk Live! at AlgaFest
"Hey talk listeners. This episode is going to be very interesting. We recently attended an alga fest. Ask a festival about algae. This was sponsored by the company. Yvonne and i work for cold alga tech. It's situated waited in qatar. Now we were able to get a booth or basically a table to be able to show off. What alga talk is trying to to do so far that includes our pioneers of ecology are memes and of course our podcasts during this time and we tried to record with different people at the festival and we got a lot of good interviews from students from the r._b._i. Here by institute for environmental studies this organization supports regional cooperation between students from israel palestine stein jordan and from all over the world. Their motto is nature knows no borders and of course here alga talk. We believe algae knows no borders. It's just like the diversity of algae only have one ocean just as much we as humans only have one planet to share together and it was very interesting to have the tables turned on me and instead of me asking the questions students. I was asked the questions and the questions were very good and specific and curious about what is algae in this this episode you will be introduced to a couple of different students. These students will first of all turn the tables on me and i started to ask me questions but later on we have students that sort of put on what they call nowadays a._s._m._a._r. You're which is sort of gentle whispering into the microphone after the a._f._c. are <hes> sort of tryout hi out yvonne then took over our alga talk booth so i could have some algal beer that was served at the festival. Yvonne explained very well about how alga tek and its connection to keep what's tura sort of gave birth to this alga fast. I know here's our interview with the students of the institute incredibly good for you lots of producers i i think the world's most of the world's oxygen yeah fifty percent downed trees but every forgets about our little friends uh-huh entirely and there are problems are algae blooms that can be toxic stuff also jumped into water and you come out life with this layer are not so yeah like at the beach so annoying dad like helper sui that your feet we're gonna come from yeah basically without oxygen in the beginning of oxygen yeah entirely say that we are <music> out i would go as far saying we definitely are algae. Algae your elgin representation entirely early like nobody notices today concentrate on finding nemo. Let's watch the fish and i was like kelp kelp the question. I hope you're use new chairman. This seaweed that's around the sushi is not like one is that a lease of the japanese nori and there's two different types don't know they're all scientific names but yeah definitely it's its own type of algae so does it come coming like a a square feet of water no no they actually found out and dry down mistaking something like that and they've been doing it for thousands of years. What do you think about the coral bleaching how that's affecting not extremely some algae's are okay with it and actually take they go over the other ones are dying which is not great so some of it some algae's adoptable data and kind of like it narrow pay with it. Today's it's a raise the c._o. Two and lowers the ph which is morrison yeah sarah large <music> surprisingly there's. That's one of the reasons why i'm doing this. Nothing exist like a podcast like this and basically yeah. There's like enthusiasts like me. I don't have a p._h._d. In psychology psychology from yeah camp goes it's great but they also call it out things like that but <hes> there's a houston people but don't worry and working at like cooking with it finally does elves properties what are like some future prospects of this. It's it's kind of a new resource basic entirely so people looking into the new microscope regarding to be able to analyze cellular algae algae and there's hundreds of thousands of them that only fifteen commercialized only fifteen only fifteen and so there's bio-fuel biofuel. That's a possibility why taking it out of it in or is that not not there area and there was a time when in two thousand eight the prices was huge very loyal and then they basically after two thousand eight the the prices went down and everybody that was enlisting algae biofuel all the companies basically collapsed but also plastics plastics attritional attritional value actually the protein yep lasted in the london marathon senate having water bottles giving people that little like pouches mad ac- the week just pop it in your mouth decompose biodegradable entirely you can even eat color pasta yeah no entirely hooping on not hard biological organisms put together. Yes very convenient. Doc acronym necessarily gives me arvin institute yeah house any questions about our relationship algae <hes> yeah relations algae. He like really out entirely earliest. I think they should give the opportunity to some of the students because it's also about how geno in a lot of medicine and base material making very interesting variety something that you can grow in a sensible way. He's it uses up c._o. Two also that's amazing. Ultra love series of we need we need. I feel they can send me like in a marxist sense. I wish that they would just like hand out little pieces all the kibbutz members to play there once in a while just because this is only the second annual wow contain. They don't really do this. They started last year kind of helped out a little bit but that's the parent concepts possibly podcast broadcasting also getting out there people know it's not just algae blooms and pond scum an annoyance at the beach. There's more to it. If you guys were able to have more of connections with the our advice too and what would you guys projects. Would you be interested in seeing we're doing maybe as a water filtration device. 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Just sorta became winter and it went away in florida at major problems lay close down teachers because it can actually be so toxic. If you inhale it kids kids die from it but definitely it can make you lose the food or whatever <hes> but they're they can do anything but in the caribbean being they are actually taking the seaweeds off the beach using it for fertilizer in ireland for a long time any of the wash up on the shore they used to actually use is it for their <hes> tonight organic and he's saying like if you take any of your food stuff throw it make a compost. What do you know that seaweed are algae. Oh no idea basically no sushi sushi. I love sushi. I love sushi seaweed algae the macro algae it's a multicellular the black man yeah yep over the fifty over fifty percent of the message in his drumming algae from the water law. Ah i think we should do pull out of the breed from daryl nutrition. The trees ashtrays all the time wrong. Please contact me when you wanna do stuff. I'm telling ya meghan. Please virtues one. Take a card and i'll get sure thank you <hes> take card. Though if you wanna follow us on facebook it's all there it looks stable to show the world about algae men and we're here here it out fest guitar twenty nine teen charleston students from the arab is about biology so important you working working with al we'll get back the company that organizes the festival is a kind of a local event because the company was found by the kibbutz member historically okay. 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It's used in the all the vitamins and stuff so it's very it's very <hes> oxygen that we will worldwide yes worldwide. It's more more than trees yeah woman that big big big grow in oxygen and discord. Thank you so much. Thank you for explaining doc. Thank you welcome. That's that's why we are doing the show. It is zinc. Yvonne would agree with me that the alga festival was very exciting. It gave us the opportunity to show show the public the glory of algae. Maybe in the future we can try to do more of these interviews of people all that work in science or regular normal people on the street and interview them. About what do they know about algae and and maybe try to tell them what is algae. Why is it important and the facts that they don't know these normative things me to try to take away from the negative image of algae as algae blooms are algae that you have to deal with within your aquarium or at the beach that sticks to your leg any of these things that people feel as algiers mushy and what she is is that algae is very important to us. We wouldn't be here without algae and that algae in our future is a very important since we've only started realizing how important algiers to us using the modern technology technology that we have to be able to discover what can algae do the genetics that were able to use it for and speaking about genetics. I had another interview at this alga fest and it was with sneer yehudah who is a biologist at alga tek and he explained to me about how the possibilities of genetics and algae can come together theoretical of course but there is this. There's possibility that algae senate has this short evolutionary break. It almost creates generations within a month talk to this possibility to be able to genetically modify an organism to be able to use it to cure cancer possibly and maybe as simple as marijuana or t._h._c. or creating some kind of drug that is important to us that we can create sustainably using algae and lake. We always try to ask you to please let us know what you think about algae where is going being in the future. Maybe you have ideas our podcast is here for you to be able to tell us where we're going to go in the future not just of algae oh gee but of the podcast itself this is your podcast and of course you can do that by emailing alga talk podcast at gmail.com l. dot com and don't forget to rate and review our podcast on any application that you use for podcasts and remember her if you keep listening. We'll keep alga talking.
Franois Darlan Pt. 1: Fernand Bonnier de La Chapelle
"On December twenty third nineteen forty two Admiral Francois Darlan recently appointed high commissioner of Vichy. France posted a luncheon then for allied political leaders in Algiers. Darlan ever the opportunist saw it as a chance to display his formidable presence to his new friends from Britain and the United States a month earlier Dr Lon had surrendered after an allied invasion of Algiers. But now he treated redid the invading army as guests not enemies. He wanted to give them the impression that truce or no truce. He was still in control role as lunch was served. Darlan turned to American General Mark. Clark an American diplomat Robert Murphy. And uttered tomorrow the Axis axis press will say. I gave this luncheon because a gun was pointed at my head Clark replied if the rest of the luncheons were as good as this. I would get my gun out every week but despite his hospitality Clark knew that Dr Lon was going to be a problem if he remained in North Africa he told the recently deposed leader that the best solution to his problem would be to leave the country and to his surprise the admiral was receptive to the proposition. He told Clark you know there are four plots in existence to assassinate me. Suppose one is successful. What will you Americans do? Then Dr Lon handed Murphy. A list of his possible successors Murphy looked up at him and detected the worry in his so bad blue eyes his premonition would be right. Tarlov died the next day One deaf can change the world. At least that's what assassins belief. Welcome to assassinations. Wins a podcast original every Monday. We examined the famous assassins of history. And the men and women who were assassinated. I'm your host Bill Thomas Nine. I'm your host Kate. Leonard you can find episodes of assassinations and all other par- cast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to extreme assasinations for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type assassinations in the search bar at podcast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening it really does help? This is our first episode on French. Admiral Merle and controversial political figure Francois. Darlan we'll dive into his rise to power in war torn France and the controversial political Michael Agreements that led to his assassination by French Resistance. Member Fernand Bonnier de la Chapelle on December twenty fourth nineteen forty two. This week will explore as journey to join the French resistance after Germany invaded Paris in nineteen forty. We'll also examine admiral. Darlan rise lies to political influence in France and how his leadership during World War Two led to his murder next week will explore the aftermath of the assassination as we unpacked the complex politics behind it. We'll discuss some of the conspiracy theories that have surrounded Dr Lawns. Unexpected acted demise on June fourteenth nineteen forty Germany storms Harris within weeks Nazi flags decorated the entire city. France was on its knees and subservient to Hitler's agenda. Germany had declared cleared war on Poland in September nineteen thirty nine and were on the move through the arrest of Europe as the Germans arrived Prime Minister Paul Raynaud was determined to keep up the fight. French military leaders like Admiral Francois Darlan believed in the beginning that fighting. I was the only means for survival but he realized quickly that the fight was a lost cause in order to save French. Lives Dr Lawn. Believe leave that it was in their best interest to collaborate with the Nazis. Darlan was not alone in the sentiment. Many others within the political elite like World War One hero and French ambassador. Philippe peyton thought an accord with Hitler was the only option to ensure Francis Future on June twenty. Second France signed an armistice deal with Germany by delay ninth. The French parliament voted to dissolve itself. And give the well respected pay taen full executive power with pay Thanh as their puppet. Germany now had full control of northern France. Along with two million French soldiers as prisoners of war pay Thanh established a new capital a few hours away from Paris in the small town of vichy which was known more more as a vacation destination than seat of political power in time. Vichy became shorthand for France's alliance with Germany but not every French citizen was willing to cooperate with the vichy regime other political officials like French Brigadier General Charles Charles de Gaulle became leaders of resistance that saw vi she's relationship with Germany as treason inspired by the uncompromising resistance resistance young men like eighteen year old Bonia Delay Appel decided to join in the fight on Yay would play a major role in unseating seating one of VC's important voices Francois Darlan which would change the entire course of the war for France for nonvoting. Va Tiller Chapelle was born on November fourth nineteen twenty two in the French colony of Algiers. When Boehner was a child his parents divorced and he was sent to study in Paris as a youth? Bonia was sensitive and fragile. He was prone to sickness but he was also impulsive and eager to engage in passionate arguments with friends. When eighteen year old bony witness the fall of France to the Nazi army? He knew he had to defend his homeland for nearly took part in a student demonstration against the Germans at the Arc de Triomphe the protests inspired him to do more to defend his country. Romantic visions of wartime adventures filled. His head Bonier left Paris for London to join the resistance group. Free French led ED by government leaders. who were forced into exile? After the German invasion he admired its leader Charlotte goal but Bonier never made it to London then. Realizing the Germans occupied northern France the only way to get there was through Gibraltar. Instead he illegally crossed the free zone own which divided occupied France and the unoccupied territory of Algiers. Now out of Nazi control Bonier reunited with his father who was working as a journalist for the Algerian dispatch through his father's connections the eighteen year old bone Yay met with many who were disillusioned by their countries. You leaders a major target. Was Admiral Francois. Darlan who was head of visas military and executing German orders with zeal L.. Bonia joined the French resistance and immediately found his calling like on Ebay. Many of the members had grand visions of sacrifice sacrifice. They saw themselves as heroes waiting for their opportunity for combat Bonier worked as a liaison between the resistances main headquarters orders. And one of its leaders on re dossier delivery tall and thin with piercing dark is unreal. Dossier was a controversial traversable figure accused of holding fascist viewpoints. He fled to Algeria in one thousand. Nine hundred forty one in reality dossier believe that France should be an independent nation and opposed the German invasion. He was also a royalist who thought democracy made good government leaders corrupt. He believed France should return to its royal heritage and be governed as a monarchy. In his opinion. The future leader of France should be the count of Paris honoring the sixth who was fighting with them. North Africa Bonia had similar beliefs. He saw the political heads. In vichy France as submissive missive to Hitler. He thought France needed a strong leader. Who would stand up against fascism? Someone like Anri the sixth while he was in north North Africa Bonier witnessed French soldiers. Carry Out anti-semitic orders with fervent regularity. These orders were coming from Admiral. Darlan who was deputy eighty leader. In all the French Africa it appeared that bone Yay and his friends in the resistance. were making no progress. In their mission to combat Dr Lawns Vicious editorship resistance leaders eventually received the break they were waiting for when they were approached by American and British allied forces in October nineteen in forty. Two America had just joined the war a year earlier and they saw North Africa as perfect launch pad for future invasions of Europe up. The first step was taking control of Algeria and Morocco. General Mark Clark. An American diplomat Robert Murphy approached Honoree honoree dossier to help plan. The invasion a month later on November eighth nineteen forty two allied forces launched their invasion and he and his comrades helped behind the scenes securing bridges and shorelines not much is known of Bony as exact role in the invasion Asian. But he saw close friends gunned down in cold blood. The chaos of combat was not what he envisioned when he left Paris two years earlier. The invasion known as Operation Torch was a complete success for the allies and the French Resistance bringing Dr Lawn and the rest of vichy France. Snow other choice but to surrender. This was a turning point that marked the end of diplomatic relations between North Africa and Vichy France. Monja de la Chapelle and his fellow resistance fighters went around town that evening singing the French national anthem La Marseillaise and shooting their guns in the air. They decorated the streets with posters mocking Admiral Darlan and other vichy French leaders. Their enthusiasm was palpable. As locals joined in on the celebration. After Operation Torch the allied forces were in full control troll of the region however bone Yay and the resistance. The fight was only beginning as the allies gained their footing in the region. Kevin Bonier perceived Darlan as submissive to their commands. Something he had seen two years earlier. When Darlan was collaborating with with Nazi Germany he was willing to sell France to the highest bidder to save his own skin if they wanted to keep Algiers under allied control role? Dr Lon would have to go up next. 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Back to the story twenty year. Old Bonia de la Chapelle and his friends and the French Resistance played a significant role in the allied invasion of North Africa on November eighth nineteen forty two after the success of operation. Torch vichy's power in the region and was rapidly slipping away giving. US and British troops time to strategize their next invasions into southern Europe. The power structure sure had been altered and bone Yay was an eyewitness to it and perhaps the most significant figure in this new environment was vichy. Commander in chief. Admiral Darlan Francois Darlan was born on August. Eighteen eighty one in Newark France. His father was a politician petition and one time minister who came from a long line of naval officers at the age of twenty one Darlan followed the family tradition when he graduated from the French French Naval Academy in one thousand nine hundred two when World War One broke out in nineteen fourteen thirty three year. Old Darlan fought at the battle of their done where he transported long range naval guns for Navy Commander and future president of Vichy. France Philippe Payton for almost ten months ons. The battle raged in the end. Nearly four hundred thousand men from both sides lost their lives but the horrors there's of war had created a formidable bond between Dr Lawn and Pay Thanh which would become a significant force in both their lives after World War One ended in nineteen eighteen. France was decimated but Dr Lon was doing better than ever. He was awarded three medals calls for bravery and honour. Once the war ended. He was assigned to the Navy warship. Joan of Arc in nineteen twenty six at the age of forty five. He was promoted to captain. DARLAN's career in the French navy is what he always dreamt of. He had influence but most importantly he was honoring the family name. darlan preached allegiance and sacrifice on ships known as ruthless shrewd. He never wavered from the belief that ship must be grounded by admirals strict supervision and above all else loyalty in nineteen thirty six. The opportunity of a lifetime came when a fellow citizen of Narok George. Legu- was named the head of the Ministry of Marine gene which controlled the navy and the colonies. He immediately looked Darlan. Who He respected to head? His military cabinet as military recap the leader to the ministry. Dr Lawn acted as a liaison to the admiralty and members of parliament. The job required someone to navigate both the political local world and the battlefield league. You thought that Dr Lon would be perfect for the job. Described as sociable and an entertaining conversationalist tation analyst Li- Goo Felt Darlan. Was the right person for the job because of his experience in the Navy's various branches most significantly. He you believed in Dr Lonzo Loyalty and unflinching discipline. fifty-nine-year-old Dr Lon had become the most powerful man in the French navy by the time German tanks rolled into Paris in June nineteen forty but in wartime decisions are quick and often impetuous Darlan was dubious of French Prime Minister Paul Reynaud who kept waffling back and forth between resisting the Germans and submitting to their demands but Francois Darlan was much more resolute. When it came to protecting the French naval fleet he would rather destroy his own ships than hand them over to the enemy and he was just just as determined to keep his fleet out of British hands? Even though Britain was their ally Darlan vowed that the fleet will belong to no oh country but France. Once the Germans gained the upper hand darlan ordered his ships to flee to French colonial ports to British reports or even to destroy themselves rather than surrender to Germany but when he arrived in Bordeaux on Saturday June fifteenth Dr Lon on began to warm up to the idea of an armistice deal this was solely because the French government promised to reject any deal that required them a handover the naval fleet Dr Lawns ships. Were safe however while he was there he witnessed the government rapidly fracturing soon he would be forced to pick a side Reno's indecision led him to lose support within his cabinet on the evening of June sixteenth eighteenth. The French ministers voted in support of an armistice. Deal believing it was the only solution to protect France. Rano was forced to resign he. It was replaced by the much more steadfast. Felipe Pay Thanh underpaid. Thanh France was willing to negotiate with the Germans but they still refuse to hand over over their naval fleet to drive this point home. Pay Thanh named Dr Lon. As the new Minister of Marine on June twenty first nineteen nineteen forty Germany acquiesced they issued another armistice proposal that let France keep their ships as long as they were returned to their peacetime ports ports where they could be disarmed under German and Italian supervision under the deal the remaining French ships would only be used for coastal patrol and minesweeping but most importantly the Germans promised they would not claim ownership of Dr Lonzo Fleet. On June twenty second. The France Germany Germany armistice was signed Payton's government established. Its new headquarters in the tranquil town of Vichy thirty miles from the boundary between occupied and unoccupied France from the fourth floor of. VC's hotel DUPARC Peyton and his cabinet turned their focus to the future of France itself. He began a new set of policies known as the National Revolution. The purpose of the National Revolution was to reclaim an old social order from from Francis past based on the values of work family and patriotism. This flew in the face of pressure from German leaders to outlaw displays blaze of French nationalism Papon superficially endorsed Hitler's New Vision of Europe. But when he spoke to his citizens by radio he articulated his New the vision for France with engaging stories filled with national pride. The French people trusted that pay taunt would make sound decisions for the betterment of the nation Asian Darlan shared the same values as Peyton and he was still faithful to his war. Commander although Germany had promised must not to take what remained of his fleet. He was now worried that the British would try to seize it. British leader's like Winston Churchill felt vichy. France needed needed to be sent a message side with the Germans. And you'll have to reckon with the British on July third nineteen forty Churchill ordered an attack attack on a French naval squadron at Merce el-khabir a port town in Algeria. Known as operation catapults. This attack marked the end of anglo-french anglo-french relations a total of one thousand. Two hundred ninety seven French officers and crew members were killed. The attacks surprised the the vichy government and left them in a state of confusion when Darlan reached to be she headquarters late on the afternoon of July third. He was enraged. It was a momentary victory for the British but in the long term that was a strategic failure. The French fleet was now out for blood. Darlan demanded retribution but reason one over vengeance instead of retaliating with a full scale attack pay Thanh issued a standard air raid on British held Gibraltar. Tempering the hostile relationship between the two nations in the aftermath of the attack. German officials allowed allowed the French to restart their naval operations. The vichy government was defending not just France but also their colonial ports in North Africa and around West Africa and soon they'd have another chance to prove their worth on November eighth nineteen forty two toward the end of America's first full year in the war the US and Britain launched another attack on vichy French forces in North Africa known as has Operation Torch as commander of French military operations. Darlan sent one hundred twenty five thousand of his best men to meet. US troops on the shores of Algeria and Morocco. However Dr Lon soon realized his forces were overpowered over the course of single well day? The Americans seized control of French ships and military strongholds. Aided by the French Resistance as the last tank reached the sands of ten and Jere Darlan recognized that the alliance between the US and Britain was a formidable force of force more powerful than vichy and the access. This the only means of survival was a ceasefire by the evening. The city surrendered leaving vichy. Government officials seeking seeking escape immediately after the battle ended. Dr Lon met with American diplomat Robert Murphy and American General Mark Clark. In Algiers to negotiate these surrender Darlan started off by stating for the last two years. I have preached to my men in the Navy TV and to the nation unity behind Peyton. I cannot now deny my oath. Despite his strong words the Americans believed Dr Lawn on could be persuaded for the right price in exchange for a complete ceasefire in the region the US appointed Dr Lon High Commissioner of North Africa. Eisenhower thought the opportunistic admiral could be a vital asset for the allied cause if he cooperated Dr Long could offer stability within the region and ensure a peaceful transition but to resistance fighters like Bonier Tila Chapelle. It appeared that Dr Lon was ready to I self France to anyone in order to save his own skin own Yay was prepared to take up arms once again. If that was what it took to defend his country we'll talk about Darlan's final weeks with the allied occupation when we return now back to the story with the help of twenty year old Bonier de la Chapelle and other members of the French Resistance. The allies launched Operation Ration- Torch in November nineteen forty two bringing an end to vichy France's rule in Algeria realizing that his forces were no match for the enemy. Sixty one year old. Admiral Francois Dr Lawn agreed to a ceasefire. The alliance ensured stability in the region as the war began to shift towards towards southern Europe with the allied forces in firm control of over one thousand two hundred miles of Mediterranean and Atlantic coastline. The the worst fighting between the warships was now over president. Eisenhower sent General Mark Clark and Ambassador Robert Murphy. To present Dr Lawn with with terms of surrender at the hotels on George Darlan reviewed the terms his eyes shifting back and forth from the papers to the American generals across from him. He was inclined to agree to the terms but he explained to Clark and Murphy that he couldn't give them an answer. Pay Thanh was the only one and with proper authority. Dr Lawn took his handkerchief from his pocket and wiped his bald head. The weight of the war was clearly weighing on him if if he surrendered to the allies there might be repercussions from Berlin not to mention from his mentor. Felipe Payton who he was directly betraying but siding with if the Americans was the best option for him and for his country he believed they'd be able to help restore France to how it once existed before the war took one last look at the agreements and signed known as the Dr Landale. The agreement directed his chiefs to break off fighting with the Americans and in exchange under the watchful eye of the Americans. Darlan was appointed high commissioner. In North Africa he led his his current military chiefs retain their commands except the officers. Who aided the resistance who he classified as traitors? Dr Lon wanted everyone to. I know that disloyalty would be reprimanded. Clark and Murphy were fine with that. The only concern for the Americans was a peaceful transition Clark asserted he would deal with the man who could do the job whether it turned out to be Dr Lon or the devil himself bison how're signed off on the deal and it was official. French Africa was now in the hands of the allies and suddenly in the business of killing Nazis but the Americans hadn't anticipated anticipated the blowback against a deal with Dr Lawn. The British Foreign Office declared we are fighting for international decency and Darlan in the antithesis of this American journalist. Edward Murrow question. What the hell is this all about? Are we fighting Nazis or sleeping keeping with them. Boroughs question was shared by many to ensure continuity. Dr Lonsdale Enforced V. She Francis harshest and most repressive laws such as imprisoning opponents issuing secret police raids on traders and upholding antisemitic. Laws and news was filtering out of Africa about Dr Lawns cruel tactics. President Roosevelt insisted that the alliance was only temporary. Darlan was fully aware of this. He responded responded. I am only lemon which the Americans will drop after. They have squeezed it dry bought with backlash from Washington and the public Eisenhower regretted signing the deal. He finally said what I need around here is a damn good assassin. Eisenhower didn't realize how prophetic his words would be on December twentieth. Nineteen forty two young French Resistance members from operation. Torch met at the Societe Descartes Wrong in Algiers. The item on the agenda was what to do about Admiral Darlan even though Baid surrendered to the allies. Darlan still considered the resistance fighters as an enemy to be squashed. He arrested them on charges of distributing propaganda. He continued to enforce antisemitic laws from the vichy days on Rudolph's Ta was worried about the direction of the Post invasion government both in North Africa and back in France. He said if these gentlemen cannot make up their minds to govern we may have to take power by force further resistance. The DARLAN deal only heightened their beliefs that monarchy was the only salvation for France and its colonies. If DARLAN was out of the picture they believed the Americans would turn to the count of Paris who was exiled Morocco and place him in power for a while the resistance believed the allies would eventually see Dr Lawns true colors and remove him from power when they realized that wasn't going to happen they decided to take matters into their own hands. The time had come to remove Dr Lawn from office permanently on November twentieth sticks. Were drawn to decide. Who would assassinate Darlan? The shortest stick was quickly drawn. It was was bone. YEA The job was planned for December twenty fourth and the details were given to bone Yay without his input he was given the official lay Out of the French government headquarters at the Palais and the exact location of Dr Lonzo Office at eleven. Am on December twenty four. He was to walk in Darlan's office shoot him and escape through an open window to reach a getaway car waiting for him at the gate with the proper papers and a passport. He could escape to ten year or perhaps southern Europe the night before he left Abbaye Louis cordray a Jesuit priests and honoree dossiers. Right hand man urge bone Yay to make peace with God. They agreed to meet right before the assassination the next day at exactly ten. Am Bonier was take into a quiet side street near father. Cordier apartment in ten year Bonier was solemn deep. In prayer as he was given absolution for the deed he was about to partake in at around eleven. Am Bonia was dropped. Opt off at the Palais des. It was bright morning. He entered the building in was immediately stopped by security. The plan had not accounted for that improvising. Bonier gave his name as Miran he asked to see someone named Brett however he was told there was no person there by that name. Bonia heard car wheels on the thick gravel. Just outside the window. He looked out and saw admiral. Dr Long being whisked whisked away for lunch he missed his chance. The only thing he could do now was wait for Dr Lawn to return changing plans bony. Ask Ask to see Louis. jocks a resistance supporter. He had met before luckily for him. Louis jocks actually worked in that building. He it was taken to a waiting room until jokes was ready to see him with everyone. Leaving for Christmas. The building was empty. Bonier was alone in the room to calm his nerves. He lit a cigarette. He watched the ash form and fall. He adjusted his jacket which held a seven point. Six five caliber for gun in the pocket. Despite the momentary setback his mind was centered on his purpose. Admiral Darlan returned turned to the building around three. PM He entered with his aide. Captain or Kahn who is briefing him on his schedule before he went home for Christmas as Orca cod retired to his office. He was surprised to see that. Both Dr Lawns Watchmen and the doorkeeper were not at their perspective posts. He didn't think much of of it. Perhaps they left early for Christmas before Darlan entered his office. He was greeted by two bullets from bone. Yays Ruby pistol. The first shot fired through his mouth at point blank range followed by another in the chest or called her the shots ring out from from his office. He went out into the hallway but there was no one to be seen panic washed over him as he walked toward the Admiral's office and found Dr Lawn on the floor covered in blood. There was a young man hovering over him. Bonier dealership hell or cod instantly. Grabbed the young man man by the throat. They both spun to the ground as they tussled bony as gun discharged hitting or cod in the ear but he he kept fighting grabbing Bonia and reaching for the gun wrenching free from orchids grip. Bonia stood up and shot him in the thigh. It was enough to incapacitate him on Yay ran for the window but before he could get out and Algierian soldier through his hats. Tassell around Bona's neck back another guard entered and kicked Bona's gun from his hand. While the guard subdued on gay annual Dr Lawns colleagues rushed to who is aid and carried him into the courtyard. He was conscious but unable to communicate they rushed him to the hospital. After what seemed like Hours Dr Lawns doctor finally emerged from surgery. He announced that the admiral's liver and intestines had been punctured. There was nothing thing he could do. Admiral Francois Darlan was dead leaving North Africa in a power struggle without anyone in command and as the investigation was underway. The story was about to unravel as to who was really involved in the assassination plot Thanks for listening to assassinations. We'll be back Monday with part two. Do on Admiral Francois Darlan will explore the fallout of his death and discuss Bonier dillashaw pels trial and execution will also dive into the conflicting theories. As to why Dr Lon was killed. You can find all episodes of assassinations and all other podcasts originals. For Free on spotify not only does spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals. Like assassinations nations for free from your phone. Desktop or smart speaker to stream assassinations on spotify. Just open the APP tap browse and type assassinations in the search bar. And don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see next time Assassinations was created by Max Cutler and his apar- cast studios original executive producers. Include Max Ron Cutler sound designed by Andy Weights. Swith production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Travis Clark. 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Leaders: Sayyida al-Hurra
"Hello and happy. New Year from Wonder Media Network. I'm Jenny Kaplan and this is encyclopedia will Manica in case. You're just tuning in. Here's the deal every weekday. We're telling the stories of women from around the world and throughout history who you may not know about out but definitely should each month is deemed an honor of the new year. We're taking the month of January to talk about leaders. Today's leader was a the sixteenth century. Moroccan Pirate Queen whose fleet controlled the western Mediterranean a major powerbroker during the period. She was even respected by her enemies for her political skill and intelligence. Let's talk about Seda Alihundra Saito was born around. Fourteen eighty five in the Kingdom of Granada to a prominent Muslim family in fourteen. Ninety two Sayyed and her family fled to Morocco. Oh after Granada was conquered by the Catholic. Monarchs Isabella the first of Casteel and Ferdinand of Aragon during their Christian Reconquista of Spain reportedly had a happy childhood after the relocation but she never forgot her family's forced exile when he was sixteen she was is married off to a family friend who was thirty years her senior. The marriage had been arranged when she missed a child like Seda. Her husband was also a prominent immigrant. Regret for more Spain. Living in Morocco site is husband lived in the city of Thuan which had originally been settled in the third century but was was later destroyed in the fifteenth century Spanish forces when Muslim refugees from Spain began streaming into Morocco. Many settled there and eventually received permission from the Sultan of Morocco to rebuild the city. Seda and her husband could become the governor of Taiwan led the rebuilding Saito side advice side with her husband on government matters and became a sort of vice-governor when he would leave the city. Saito was put in charge in fifteen fifteen saito. He does has died and she took the reins of power and touch on. This makes her the last woman to officially and legitimately hold the title of all Hora Meaning Queen in Islamic History Sega's anger and humiliation over being forced to flee Spain as a child never left her and she despised the Christian enemy in order to gain some measure of revenge. She turned to piracy on the Mediterranean banking on her position and resources. Resources as clean of Taiwan side contacted the famed Barbarossa of Algiers who controlled the eastern Mediterranean and essentially made a deal to assemble. Well her own fleet to take control of the western Mediterranean. Her Fleet of pirates was a nightmare for the Spanish Portuguese who were highly dependent on the shipping trade eight throughout the Mediterranean. She soon became the undisputed pirate leader her region and was even grudgingly respected by the Spanish and Portuguese for the power power. She's so skilfully yielded. She was the person they had to negotiate with in order to get back prisoners taken during the pirate rates that turned turned out to be a very lucrative business for her in fifteen forty one seda Mary. The Sultan of Morocco off MED Alwa- tassie however does she wasn't ready to give up her position. As clean of Taiwan she forced the sultan to travel from Fez Detach. Wanted to marry her. This is the only recorded instance in history of Moroccan king getting married outside the Capitol in October of fifteen forty. Two Saito was overthrown as clean of touch one on by her son in law. At that point she had ruled for thirty years. Accepting the reality of Politics Seder retired and lived quietly for nearly two who more decades she died on July fourteenth. Fifteen sixty one tune in tomorrow for the story of another great leader from history special. Thanks to Whisk Kaplan my favorite sister and co-creator off tomorrow.
The Top Service Real Estate Agents Should Be Marketing | Interview On The Agents Of Compass Podcast
"This interview is one for the bucks. One anyone in real estate? Should listen to Gary chops it up and provides tips and tactics for real estate agents talking about the Anglos saving clients time practicing what you preach and setting expectations with your appearance. This is the Gary v audio experience protocol. Me. So we got Gary banner Chuck on the agents at compass podcast is to give our listeners context holding agent twenty twenty one in event for real estate agents has spoken numerous times at imminent events. You're white are not sorry. You're not your wife your sister. Liz as an agent herself. You definitely have context into our realm. And we look forward to what you can provide our agents here when we met at Espy's pre party this summer. I said, hey, I left ESPN. I'm over at compass. Now, are you familiar, and you said, yes, what is your understanding with compass because a lot of clients out? There were a new brokerage people don't know yet. I'm you know, what I know is that it's it's obviously a technology designing kind of like platform. I I know that it's innovating. I know tiring. All my all, my friends, and and and marketing executives in the industry, but overall what I the way I think about it is. Super well funded real estate tech platform that is disrupting the industry pretty exact X extensively. So now I'm trying to provide value for agents because I worked closely with them. I see a lot of times what they're pushing through and marketing, and what they're kind of strategies are all I here's to this day every agent. It's the let me provide you a free home evaluation or let me help you. Find your dream home. Those are the cliche tag lines that I hear time and time again from these agents what like anyone can provide that what is it beyond that that they should be preaching or should be promoting. You know, I think service right like instead of Algiers and just get to reality. Like, if someone like, I think they should be selling, you know, saving people time, you know. So saying you time in his home buying purchase. Instead of the whole let me find your dream home, which were also aware of. One hundred percent. I mean, the amount of people who actually care about saving time. In is stunning. You know what I mean? Like like, I don't think people realize how much time is the thing that people most care about. And so like have you heard from somebody like they would pick somebody who saves them time on something as big of a purchase of the home. That would surprise a lot of people. But I bet is the reality of twenty to forty percent of the buyers in the marketplace. That's obviously a rough guess, but I just know that there are a lot more people that are willing to make a million dollar transaction predicated on time savings, nurses, like, you know, an extra five feet on the backyard or like brand new like faucets. Right right now. I agree with you another time. We're meeting where a meeting into is the practicality, you know. For sure another topic that I run across is, you know, people listen to you. I didn't realize how many people listen to you in the real estate world. I came from sports in media. And I thought people knew and then I jumped into real estate in our surprise, Gary so good on you. But I appreciate that. But people are trying to up their social game and their marketing game. But the hard part is it's not like a product or a physical thing. They're selling them as the person and a lot of times people are saying, they can't do it or they don't have the time is it possible in how can you outsource your social when you're the personal brand? It can possible. Granted you have a team that creates for you. But you're still posting at the end of the day is that kind of like the farthest you can get from. That's right. And let's not forget because people are always like area of a team. I produced enormous amount of content every day for eight and a half years before I hired one person. And van or media doesn't have any. Will you still have that division? But there you have people falling them around constantly. That's right. So I think look here's what I would say you can't outsource somebody eating healthy and do and working out for you. If you want to be in better shape. Like people like how do I out source my personal brand, you don't it's your personal brand? And that's what happens is agents are coming Mexican. Hey, like we hired an agency to run it. Then they're upset because all they're using a stock images, and quote cards will they're not. And and ninety nine percent of people social media behavior. Selfish ninety nine percent of people listening to this right now only care about selling a home, not actually educating somebody how to get a better home. You don't why I'm one of the most follow people because I want to give away all my marketing advice for free and don't care if I get a penny for it, which then leaves me to get penny for it was. Yeah, that's what it gets so upset when I see him Asians profile, and it's all just listed just sold in escrow. It looks like a billboard on their Instagram profile rack back to back to like my analogy about you know, health and wellness because ninety nine percent of people when they do social media or trying to think steroids. Everybody's in short term, bro. Everybody wants like like, you know, that ninety five percent of people listening here tried to do social media. But after one to four months they gave up because they didn't see a sale from it. I mean, this is like so obvious like, it's so obvious. I tell my sister, she's not going to sell single home for two years. Okay. Well, let's get on that point. You know? I follow your sister. I think she was very vulnerable in saying that, hey, this is my first year it sucked. I even had a listing fired. I lost it the holidays. Just happened. You spend some more time with family. You went on a trip with her this year. I kind of have a little context. So in that time spent with her what are the talking points or advice that you're kind of having with her as she of gets her business up in reading. You don't have to fake to make it everybody in real estate and sales. Everyone's trying to posture wearing a suit and this and that like literally renting a limousine or Alamba. I mean, everybody faking drought as a go toba true. Like tell the truth of your journey documents. Don't you've nothing to say all you have to say is the documentation of the journey of becoming a real estate agent. Then people start getting into you out of your often city and truth. And then in three years, you might be able to start actually getting the results of that. Now, if somebody listening you're seventeen years in the business which year, he can do is tell put out content about things that they know are tried and true mistake. Nobody's winning the reason. I would dominate real estate is. I would just give away the secrets. I'd be like, well, here's the things that you need to look out for here's where people get caught on taxes. Here's where people get caught on on inspection. Here's what you need to think about when you're merch. Zing cinnamon cookies, do this Campbell's do that a thousand dollars in renovation before you list your home on fixtures is better than on rugs? Staging is worth nine percent of the public. I would literally do what I'm doing with marketing and what I did with wine. Why have I been able to over index in both things that I've done I gave away all the troops all the industry secrets I opened up the KOMO in the wine world, this isn't worth it. This is worth it is what you should pay for wanna get better and wine. Try different things. Why am I dominating and marketing, I put out eighty six page slides that people charge five thousand dollars for as an e book, and I put it away for free and daily I put away content for free. And then I tell people don't listen to watch me. So if I'm doing this you do that. And that's why there's tens of thousands of people made a lot of money or found a lot of happiness on the back of my content. Do I'm so glad you went on that tangent. Because I feel like a lot of agents here they do have that experience in. We're in luxury markets across the nation. By saying, hey, like, maybe it's not too much of the journey. Maybe it's the secrets. But for those veteran agents do think they see it as a secret or it's just like it's so ingrained that we don't care to share share it because it's already information. We know we don't think it's valuable for anyone else. Because there's what we'd think the bet. No. I think the veterans that. I know, you know, in our no lot of them are more interested in just selling off the reputation, and when they hear me talk again, that's cool. But like, I'm the Queen bee in Malibu. Everybody knows who I am. I don't need. Gary is bullcrap of like putting in ceramic doesn't matter. It's gonna like I don't wanna put up social because I'm I'm like high end or they just come up with excuses because they can still get away with it. But here's what been realize on the next down term on the economic crisis, which is inevitable when no Phoenix rises. It's going to be all the twenty six year olds that built brand during this era, and then they won't be the Queen bee anymore. They're going to be the has been. But the problem is they're not ready to retire. So then how did Gary choose his realtor. Was it your sister? Was it just based off of someone? You already knew was there even vetting period. My my real inner for my properties were predicated on my wife's dear family friends. So Neri cliche. You know? That's how it happened. Now. How I pick my personal trainer. How I picked a financial adviser how I pick trying to think of something else services interior, decorating. How I picked other service providers has been completely predicated on content on the internet. So your going through social media accounts in looking through things and finding what appeals to you. And then when she got to that individual. Amazing. I wanna hit a few questions that an agent submitted. So little ask Gary v right here. Stephanie Saint Clair from Newport asks granted, I know you're not no Notre dominance, Gary. But what are the biggest trends that you see or predict in commercial real estate? Link in long-form, creative to build expertise or podcast to be the commercial real estate expert of a region. I couldn't get people more to to understand that they have to become media personalities or and continues it out all their expertise and then use that leverage to garnish business. You know, an article linked in his five seconds away from going viral that called what seven things you need to look out for when you open your second location. Right. And if you're the one that wrote it, and I read it 'cause I'm opening my second one library because I live on Lincoln and Facebook like everybody else does whether you're Apor eighty eight. And then I see that you're actually commercial real estate person. I might just message from Lincoln. And now that article led to me using you this is how many everyday brother is happening. BB software sales is having a real estate or something in. Politics. Like, I just I'm fascinated by people not willing to put in the work out of laziness or success. And one of them winning right now, we're in the middle or in the middle. Ironically, you're you got the people to the left that are just lazy, and they don't wanna put in the work. They heater me, but they don't wanna put work. And then you have a group of people who are so successful right now. They don't think they're in trouble. Down. What about the physical business side of commercial real estate? You seeing as in like brick and mortar shops. What trends there is it clothing stores is it workout places is it. Oh, I be honest feel the answer. I think all the real estate. Oh, jeez. Well, I don't care, but physical locations will always be needed. Meaning I could care less radio. Shack is the hot business of the day or Sears or or electron. Ick boutiques for video games or are canes or orange theory or five guys burgers or K mart or them, WalMart or them like experiential like I think anybody who's lived in the world that has any business savvy news over the last fifty years, many trends have evolved internet cafes, like the amount of baseball card stores used to be a thing. Like, I'm agnostic. That meaning if it's slime stores or like bathing store like there will always be new trends on the consumer side that will need physical locations have if you want to use it as a strategy. There's plenty of data that shows you things that are popping. That's not hard. If it's your crap. I think that people like retail will always be around and bulbs, and I would stay close to entrepreneurs and Inc. Five thousand lists and pay attention to who's topping Miami agent. Ameet Buddha ask he's thinking about getting a full-time person like d rock on his team. What are things in the beginning that he could be putting out to get people interested. So what does that content to get people interested if he's investing in a fulltime videography? His day to day life, the end like like, that's what works reality TV works. Like people want to see what's happening in people's lives. It you know, if you have nothing to say, you have the documentation of your day. And not faking your day, not feeling like, hey, I gotta go do this showing a Maserati to get more views. Yeah. I mean people I love you for like setting that up. Like everybody's faking. Like I'd much rather. See you do your listings in Toyota that has like a bum tie or because it's your truth. Like, if you're baking, the Maserati, and the and the five thousand dollars suit, what are you gonna do when I run into you at the restaurant. I mean, I'm an expect. What I see on the on your blogs hundred percent. It's why I'm winning everyone sees like high energy good guy like like competitive like. Whoa. And then they're women mean either. Like fuck you're just like that. I'm like, yeah. Like, what do you think I'm gonna make myself motorable and fun? My sister went out there and tried to make it. She would have been exposed. People don't get it, man. People are just so hungry for short-term approbation that they're willing to undermine their long term success will then that goes to so Gabe coal ass. How do I stand out in a highly competitive market because we're luxury is there a way because I realize point by being Gade, I would buy I would buy my house from Gabe and a high network place by Szott on Facebook. Just because he was actually a jets fan like me, this is real life. You just have to document people. Don't documenting doesn't come natural to everybody. 'cause everybody thinks what they do is boring. They don't realize it's unique. There you go. Charles from Cambridge Massachusetts, he has three teen including him. So that's four he's not looking to build a larger team, but he's looking to support and encourage the members of his team. What advice do you give to him? In other words, how does it team lead? I got I got I got a good one in take them out to dinner, lunch or breakfast. And ask them what they're motivated by whether it money bunny time life balance. Apper affirmation coddling complementing mentor ring and UK eating downtime fun. You know, everybody's you know, random surprises like ski trip or a racket ball a new racquet ball racquet. Like, there's so many ways to get people pumped. The problem is most people do it on their terms as a leader. Not in terms of the person, you're trying to get pumped. You know? But what if I ask Karen like, hey, what do you want? And she says I just want the ability to make my own schedule. I'm a mom I want to do real estate when I wanted to get real estate. But then now when I get open houses, I'm going to I might not give Karen leads. I might not give her my open houses because I disclosed that I want to spend time on my fan, then then then you should fire cairn upfront. If you know that you're gonna sabotage Karen for work like balance because that's not the reality for your businesses. I do that all the time. People say to me like know I want to take more time with my family after crushing it the last four years. I said, yo great. But you do know that Rick's gonna pass you like we have business run here. And that's okay. You know, what I mean just gotta so accepted right out. Surprised how great employees are when you get really real with them. So agent twenty twenty one is happening literally in a few days. I mean, if someone wants is listening to this and wants a book last minute flight to Miami. I'm sure tickets are still for sale. What are the themes that you're going to be preaching this year? How what did you listen to last year? And what was the feedback to make twenty nineteen better than eighteen? I mean opinions are just reverse engineering the audience, right? Like, how do we bring more value? Tactically is really what I'm focused on. Right. Like, if you're not going to agent twenty twenty one and not realizing modern digital execution is what you're there for now. It's about the details. More QNA more people expertise tactician who executed mortgage a real estate or things that nature. So just more more gap of detail. And if we can't attend for agents listening will most of the content be available would be available to purchase. Will it be in podcast form? I think great question. I think you'll probably be able to get. Eighteen percent of the content for free through the serendipity of new to podcasts and things of that nature. One of your special with your time any any final things or things that you wanna preach before. I let you go. Yep. Yep. There's a wide open space in the real estate industry because everybody's short term selfish figure out how to be long-term giving and watching business grow in twenty twenty two amazing dairy. Thank you so much for about it. And hopefully, we'll chat again. All right.
Bill Barhydt, CEO & Founder of Abra
"All right. Take two. All right. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Excellent. All right, everyone. Welcome to our beta test of unqualified opinions via periscope Bill bar hike, the CEO of averick level. And I've known each other for a few years and everybody the last twenty four hours has been talking about their new feature which allows anyone globally to invest in stocks and ETF's through what they call the crypto collateralized contracts. This is a new rift on technology. That's been. It's certainly as as any new announcement or new feature does Bill. Cause some people to question and some people to in colorful language, try to poke holes in how the future worked and whether it was actually seen build for for quite a while. So I less skeptical, but we wanted to get you here Abe, what better guests to to try out during the period than than someone who's we've grown fond of or many years and two things that's happened in the industry urine. And maybe in a while in terms of spreading adoption and actually serving killer app. Sue, maybe I'm partial I'm still gonna try to poke holes in the product. But not nothing that you can't handle given the delta in in in Q. I think so help you dumb it down. And we're gonna hopefully help you communicate exactly how this fantastic new future works. Welcome. Thanks look forward to the discussion. Thanks to Bill. What are we start? Just two quick synopsis. The pollution of bro. Sure. So today labral is in apt that works in hundred and fifty plus countries that allows consumers to hold bitcoin as well as myriad Fiat currencies and all coins as the -ffective Leeson begs that's using bitcoin, multi sig contracts. In other words, you can hold dollars euros pesos excerpt P minero, all as basically bitcoin whose value is pegged to those other assets. We call those crypto collateralized contracts, but user experiences super simple. It just looks like a a portfolio where I'm holding all this stuff. And then yesterday we announced that in addition to those eighty Fiat and crypto assets were also adding stocks commodities ETF's as synthetic assets as well using the same crypto collateralized contract model. And what's cool about that is is that people in one hundred fifty five countries who may be out of investing in western assets. Will now be able to invest in those assets for the first time in places like Mexico. India southeast Asia, I'm really excited about. And one of the things that immediately comes to mind is at this is built on bitcoin versus a theory about people building, Marc contracts, and and open finance applications and everybody against thinks about it theory, and maybe even two point zero versions of the theory, or or or some of these Pera chain applications or new chains like ES before they ever think about bitcoin. You've been building this escrow functionality and then collateralized contract functionally bitcoin for years. Now. Why are you guys the only ones that seems to be leveraging this I guess number one and number two how how do you determine that this still the best asset going forward to to to build on top of? So that's a that's a great question. I think that for us. We look at programmable money to meet our requirement says basically having three requirements I would say four requirements, the first is really needs to be hard money in in in the sense that it it it needs to be a at least approaching some deflationary value, and so bitcoin uniquely meets that requirement. But in terms of the real hard requirements. I would say it's three things right large market cap. So that we can have lots of users using the system with small amounts of money. Right. So if if. People want to collateral is if millions and millions of people wanted collateralized Algiers dollars, it has to be scalable enough to do that, right, obviously. If there was an interesting article in Forbes today's explaining just exactly from this perspective, why apps like Abir that collateralized real world assets could driving the price higher. That's number one to the digital asset needs to be liquid globally. So that people can easily get money in and out of the system from the physical world into the digital realm. In other words, if I wanna use a local exchange to buy bitcoin, and then pump that bitcoin labral I can easily do that. And obviously there's exchanges now probably accessible in over a hundred well over one hundred countries, and that's that's that's that's that. I that's the second requirement and the third requirement is is is it needs to be programmable in the sense that we can create these multi. Scripts if you will that affectively look a lot like smart contracts. They're not fully Soir contracts in the sense that they're one hundred percent self settling. But the reality is is that bitcoin or even either theory have no knowledge of the outside physical world. And so mostly saying in the codes of bitcoin represents probably the best we can do and taking in terms of taking a hard assets and making truly programmable for the kind of contracts that aber is creating and so for the technically initiated the multi data model resides offline, but the actual scripts are our online in the wallets themselves are true, you know, multi, sake contracts, script slash contracts. And so bitcoin is perfect for the actual use case of labral. It's it doesn't do more. It doesn't do less. Those ten coats within bitcoin, more or less. Do exactly what we need to make our work, and we may use other chains smart contract capabilities over time, but bitcoin will always be the asset. If you will that we're using to collateralized these contracts were fully committed to that. We don't have a plan B so answer just to be clear. I mean, this isn't fractional rate. So when when someone makes an investment they're trying to purchase apple or a fraction of apple sharing the bitcoin that they use purchase that share is locked in contracting. And it's not really Pathak aided Bill instructional system on top of it. Correct. That is hundred percent, correct. So I'm not gonna espouse any personal opinions are know -cation and the implications of that Caitlin Caitlin long and others. I'm sure I'm sure Kaitlyn will do that for. Yes. She'll do that for you. And she's much eloquent explaining it than I am. But that's. These positions are it's not a CFD model where it's margin plus leverage. It's one hundred percent collateralized labral has no access to the collateral unless we're in the money on the contract, the consumer is holding their keys to the collateral in a multi seek model. So once they enter into the contract, neither the consumer or African access the collateral unless we're in the money, and if the consumers just me, bitcoin, it's a one of one simple one of one wallet where they can withdraw the bitcoin anytime they want and and so basically Abbas angle here in terms of sustaining itself as business you're doing all the hedging, and you're managing all this risk and purchasing the underlying and then hedging both the the bitcoin that would be included into the in transaction as well as whichever acid ETF stock or otherwise, that's that's getting the. Effectively purchased if not actually purchase at least this synthetic exposure would be purchased and that's completely removed from the person who's actually using the app. Yeah. That's right. So our vision is to democratize access to financial services. And so we have simply figured out a way to do that legally, and that is the beauty. I mean look at its core. Right. Bitcoin represents and decentralisation that bitcoin enables represent a very important regulatory arbitrage that give consumers rights rights via software that they didn't have before. And that is the rights to hold one's zero's that represent hard money. Right. And that's a big deal. You know? And so is able to take advantage of that in a way that I think represents true financial inclusion over time to people who may not understand how it works. Right. Just the same way that people don't understand how TCP IP work works. But use it to stream Netflix videos, and I think that ultimately bitcoin as TCP IP for money. Represents the same opportunity. And this is really where I've heard push back in my over the years. Right. And it kind of comes down to two things one is just the how do you do this in a legal way because the optics of this are you guys are are being your servings an investment manager, and and and folks essentially coming to you likely what prime broker and purchasing these curies, even though you're keeping one step removed. You're still giving them saying type of synthetic exposure. And and minor standing is that you believe that you get around the existing regulations just because this is non-custodial, and because the user still able to manage their keys, but right now, it's the multi sake that you're using. It's still too too writes, it it's a fifty fifty split versus having some independence third-party mediate any disputes. I guess. You know, some of these are going to be trade secrets to be the biggest question that I always give out RAs houses legal. Yeah. And album actually threads demand. Eman evil addressed part of the equation in the kind of custodial issue. I mean, ultimately, there's three jurisdictions that matter in in these type of transactions, right? There's custody which may look like banking regulation or e-money regulation or in the US MSP regulation. That's one bucket, and that basically comes down to who's hoping the money or the keys in the case of crypto. The second is, you know with bitcoin as a commodity. Are you doing anything that looks like Monty based riveted swaps or futures and and cetera et cetera. Which generally look at swap execution facility regulation, which is in of itself, very complex. And then the last perspective courses securities regulation and labral has had to very carefully navigate this with an architecture that was explicitly set up long term to deal with those three issues, but at global scale because we have customers in one hundred countries not just in the US. And so. So you know, it's beyond the purpose of this conversation. But, but in general, we've had a lot of well paid lawyers looking at this to verify that the ideas of actual delivery, which is a very old concept in, you know, both commodity security. Swap regulation is actually being executed correctly with aber right to that. There's no difference in how aber settles versus, you know, crops or barrels of oil, and the TC has come out and said that embarrassed Pinon that those rules apply to bitcoin the same way. They should apply. Commodities, and we agree with that. And so it's not so much like a lot of people talk to me about oh, you found loopholes. And it's no it's like, no. The it's not really a loophole to log was set up to be the law. Right. And and so we're simply operating within the framework now that having been said, I think that what you're gonna find his is that it's going to be very difficult for global regulators to come after, you know, on chain settled contracts that that, you know, are are quote unquote, ephemeral when there's no integration with the physical world. Meaning it's literally just the in on chain settlement of digital contracts via some derivative. I think and that's for example ledger. X does the opposite. Right. It's it's basing centrally cleared it looks and smells like traditional derivatives and their application process was no different than anybody else. And so what they haven't and probably won't be able to affectively deal with that scale is is stuff that moves completely on chain. Whether that chain is is theory. Liam for true, kind of you know, touring complete contracts or or bitcoin for the kind of, you know, multi stuff that average doing I think it's going to be very difficult at scale. And I think they're gonna focus more on on the ledger ex model and less on the aber model because I think they're gonna find the untenable to regulate the software versus regulate people. It's interesting the bring that up because they can regulate labral, right and AB. They get it can regulate labral. But, but, but you could you could open source this model like scenario and have the public in some added counterparty to these contracts instead of labral, and there would be nobody to shutdown right? And so and this goes right right now, I think this might be the next hop to actually decentralizing the national services investments in in Akwa securities because the the unsolved problems still in the quote, unquote, open finance community, and and a lot of other smart contract, developers working on is figuring out what the reference data looks like. And and which are as you actually use force. He's contracts chain that that seems to be taken out of the equation because you has a central company and service are managing all that wrist on yourself. Yeah, that's right. And I think that you know, one hand where? The first to to really do this in a public way that's getting consumer traction. But we're certainly not going to be the only company, and it's gonna there certain things that regulators are gonna care about there's things that regulators are going to be less concerned about and we'll see how it unfolds I think the most important thing for labral is are we building a business that solves real consumer problems that has tremendous social benefits, and where the intent is to allow people to participate in in commercial and financial transactions to their benefit the way they are we being as transparent as as physically possible in terms of what we're doing. So when we when we do migrate from two to two to three multi sake, we're going to open source the oracle function. So people can see how the oracle has rights to sign the third the second be the second signature in when the consumer or. Is is not present. And you know, the techies that get what I just said I think will love that not only because in just just just dumbing it down right now the user has one key. You guys have the other question. I think that's been posed on Twitter is who does dispute resolution. Skipping ahead that could be a community, right? I could be crowds worse to the oracle system. But in the Antrim, how does that work? Yeah. I mean, it has to be labral right in dispute resolution base. Yeah. Dispute resolution in our model, effectively means I don't agree with your, you know, your policy or your business rules or maybe there's a bug now. That's honestly that never happens where we'd had a dispute in terms of how multi sync would settle, but that it would be labral because we're simply the counterparts untracked in the future. We would like it to to be the oracle of who would be a, you know, independent entity. Regardless of who created it. And we would like that entity to provide those oracle services to other contracts software contract providers in not just labral and get really good at and also be in a kind of a neutral geography as well. We're looking at Switzerland. And we're down the path of settling on that. But we're open people in the public have reasons to convince us it should be another jogger fee where we're certainly open in. When whenever I started. I think one of the killer apps, we talked about was cross border remittance right in financial access just in terms of moving money around. It's obviously come much much farther in in the past leaders, but you guys have processed you said a few hundred million now in these types of crypto clever lines contracts just with crypto. Helpless perspective. What you think about the krypton crypto business, which is kind of in your bread and butter, and and kind of the magnitude of product in which he think that could do to both. But also in terms of bitcoin volumes. Sure, I mean, look, the the the vast majority of transactions forever Nic last year were accommodation if people either buying bitcoin or converting bitcoin to be, you know, X R P or minero were Z cash or ether synthetically and back and forth. Right. And so and also secondarily people using it for traditional four x meaning taking my bitcoin and putting it in dollars euros or yen people in Argentina who would send us bitcoin people in China within his bitcoin and put it in dollars because they felt like they were getting a hedge versus they're kind of like shit coin. Coin. And so now, I would posit that from an investment perspective retail investment perspective that market is tiny compared to access to traditional western investments. Probably to the factor of you know, one to two hundred six and so if I can give people in those same markets, Argentina, Venezuela Philippines. India China access to those markets because they simply don't have access or give people listening to this TV broadcast in the west who loves the idea of using bitcoin to make it's just the contracts point blockchain between labral. I think it's it's huge right end. Enter your question. I don't think that at sixty billion dollars. There's enough bitcoin to collateralized all these contracts. And so if you take the assets under management from like, a Robin Hood or an e trade, which are affected. Operating in one country between them it's probably two hundred fifty billion. Okay. Our estimate is diploid trillion dollars in retail investor money sitting on the sidelines in those countries that I just mentioned if you put a fraction of that into a model like with average describing like I said there's simply not enough bitcoin to collateralized those assets. So what's going to happen? Right. I mean that was the gist of Kyle's article from Forbes this morning, which is the naps like Abir could have a significant impact on the price of bitcoin over time. Well and forget about price for a second. Everybody's gonna get really excited when I hear that. But if you do go with the Robin Hood type of mindset, and and you think about fractional shares and making small components of publicly traded ETF. They'll retail you're gonna have throughput issues pretty quickly. So historically. You know, even with several hundred million dollars you've had to deal with the bitcoin Blockchain's fees anticipate that there's anything close to the growth that you guys are hoping for jacking at what point does s are to become a problem for you. Or for the users who are only the access this. They're putting in fifty dollars one hundred dollars. You know, a few hundred dollars per transaction. Yeah. That's a good question. I mean when binding sees hit fifty dollars for us never remember late. Let me caveat that with our our our our transactions are all multi sick. So they're they're larger than a standard one of one bitcoin transaction. So when others were paying twenty five dollars, in some cases, we were paying forty dollars. That's the nature of these contracts. And so obviously, that's a problem. Now our goal over time facilitates swale dollar transactions and then to settle those in the bitcoin blockchain and one of the challenges is working out the details. So that we still meet the physical delivery requirements of the regulator. So that it doesn't look like, you know, that there's some kind of central clearing of those transactions which would defeat the purpose of what we've architect did to not be a label. I apologize. If that was a complex statement. But it is it is so so we need to figure out how to use second layer. Lightning and other technologies to settle the these transactions at scale so that we don't consume the bitcoin blockchain. I mean, there was there was days this past year where aber was doing more than one percent of on chain transactions from data size perspective daily. So and and like I said the products were rolling out are a hundred x the two hundred x more interesting than what we were already doing. So clearly, there's not enough room in the blocks for labral to be able to do this given that we're not the only game, you know, only people trying to publish transactions. Sure. I mean, would you ever moved to another blockchain? That's that's the, you know, this this came up around the bitcoin scaling debate a couple years ago. We're not gonna be able to do x y and z on bitcoin if we don't increase the block size we to axon. So this has been kind of a common refrain. But as you think about alternatives at some point if you know, the the protocol, you're building on becomes capacity constrained, what would be next in line or do you have a plan date? So we do I mean, look, we're all in bitcoin. Let me just start off with that. Right. But on the other hand, we do have the ability to run these multi scripts online coin. They're binary compatible from code perspective. And we do have few users who you know, we've tested that with. They can't really tell the difference. If they wanna know we can tell them, but nobody nobody so far seems to care. I care. I really want this to work on bitcoin because I think bitcoin is going to be the currency of the internet. I agree with Jack Dorsey comments on that. So, you know, I I'm totally fine. With the fact that we lost the two x debate. I get why. And it was a good lesson for me. And understanding, you know, kind of decentralized consensus in how hard that is why that's a feature. I'm cool with that on the other hand, it's the onus is on me to make my business work within those constraints. I don't think the onus is on the internet to fix itself. So that African can work I think it's the other way around and we're cool with that. I just believe that you know, we're clearly. Going to have to rely on second layer technologies without violating legal principles that were operating under which is going to be a challenge. I bet. That's, but if it was easy, I guess everybody would be doing exactly, well, we said we're gonna keep this short, and sweets and just get to the meat of the issue. And I think you dressed the basics the some of the Jackson's we saw on Twitter, and then some where can people go to test this out? Yes. So we're doing early access registrations on the stock features now. But if you go to aber dot com or the app store you can download aber today and use the app with both disadvantage theod as well as the crypto assets. And then in a few weeks, we'll be turning on the actually less than a few weeks. We'll be turning on the stock ETF and commodity assets as well we're going to start. I think with like fifty or so of the top NASDAQ traded. Assets. And then at you know, hundreds and then the entire NASDAQ over time, and then even other international exchanges, but for now they can start with that average com or the app store. Go bar heights. CEO of labral go check out the new products. Also, former rocket scientists, right? Is that is that an overstatement that's an overstatement? I mean, I certainly I I did work for NASA. But I was not the smartest person in the room for sure. Well, I'm not I'm certainly not the smartest person this conversation. But definitely appreciate you joining as as our Guinea pig of sorts as we we think about this new unqualified opinions live show from the sorry app. Massari crypto follow along and we will see for the next one. Thank you so much Bill next month. Thanks for having me. This is awesome. Good luck ticket.
The World Walk (4 Years In) With Tom Turcich
"You're listening to zero to travel podcast where we explore exciting travel based, work lifestyle and business opportunities helping you to achieve your wildest Carroll joins now, your host world, wonder and travel junkie. Jason moore. Hey there, it's Jason with zero travel dot com. Welcome to the show, my friend. Thank you, so kindly for hanging out with me your today, letting me bring a little travel into your ears. This is the show to help you travel the world on your terms to fill your life with as much travels desire, no matter what your situation, irks, -perience been sitting on this episode today's episode for a little while. And I've been dying to get it out to you, because I'm talking to my friend, Tom tur- sich, who is walking around the world and we actually had him on the podcast when he was a little while into his journey almost three years ago. And if you search into the archives it's called the world, walk today, we're going to catch up with him almost three years later. And I love hearing what's going on on the ground for him in these countries. I mean, think about this really put yourself there he is walking through all of these different countries. And. And it's just incredible feat. No pun intended. Sorry, there was a pun intended there to do it, but it really is. And hearing some of his adventures that have happened along the way he's had a health scare that was pretty intense. You're gonna hear about in this interview, and some of the unexpected things that happened on a journey like this. It's just. Packed with the kind of travel stories, you would expect from somebody who is walking around the world you're gonna love it before we get into the interview on say quick, thanks to Tortuga backpacks for supporting taste show. If you go to travel dot com slash Tortuga hearing to find the best travel backpacks out there. 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So check them out if you're looking for a backpack, please now. Get ready to listen on this incredible conversation with a man who's walking around the world. My friend, Tom on the other side of this interview all share some thoughts around our chats stick around for that. And without further ado, here's my conversation with time. I'm just gonna hit record because I don't want to miss anything. Doing man, good. What's going on in Croatia was some cousins here and so can in the heritage right now? So could inheritance. You have a Croatian background. How how deep does that run like how much Croatian are you? I guess I'm one quarter relation. Okay. So, yeah, I I'm I can go see my great grandfather's house here and meet up with cousins and stuff. And yeah, it's an awesome. It's it's super cool to come to this. Little island in Croatia. Kirk and go to the town that says my last name on it is just wild. No way. Have you met these people before these like some distant cousins or they cousins that you've met before now distant? Yeah. Cousins that other cousins met them, but never met personally, so. Yeah. For some connection with them. It's very cool. Wow. All right. So I'm here talking, I haven't done insure anything here, but I'm here talking with Tom rich. I'm pronouncing the last name correctly. Right. Terse itch is what I meant to say. I had practice that before I forgot. And if you check them out at the world, walk dot com is his website, and he is doing exactly what his website says. He's walking around the world and dude, I looked back, and we published an episode with you, when you left jersey and you oct-, of course, because that's what you're doing to Ecuador. You're an Ecuadoran time recorded and that was three years ago almost three years ago. Here you are three years later, and you're Croatia and you're still walking around the world. So congratulations, man. Been a long journey. Well, yeah. I mean I all right. So, of course, I have a million questions, but the first one, I'm gonna ask house, your house Vanna doing your dog, she's Goodman, and she's, she's in perfect health. She's, she's a beast, a blacks and right now at my cousin's house. So she's just, you know, she just wants to walk all day, so unwelcome again. But yes, she's in great L. She's happy. How fit are you right now? I'm feeling good man. We do twenty four miles a day, pretty easily and wake up each day, do it again. No problem. So on film, good man, just moving along, and it's easy woken here in Europe. So feel good. You've been doing this for how long now. So actually, on the road, it's been one thousand one hundred fifty on as okay? Wow. Have you gone home at all or anything? And then, like just gone. Back and picked up where you left off. Or if you just been walking the entire time. Yeah, actually, after a Finnish, South America, I went home to get Savannah's paperwork to enter Europe. And I started getting kinda stomach cramps. Now's back in states. I ended up getting really sick. I started walking Ireland I walked Ireland in Scotland, and I got really sick. So actually I stopped walking for a year and I lost about forty five pounds and I spent a month in the Royal hospitals London, gin tests for parasites all the stuff they can figure out what it was try flew back home. They were just thrown different antibiotics at it until something started working and covered. And then I was working working out going to the gym, build my Durance back and then after almost a year off because of this illness than I flew into Copenhagen started, walking Europe. Your begin. Did you have any doubts about starting up again? Or did you always know you were going to start up again after you solve this out? Yeah. Never doubt. No. Never. You know it was it was it was not a great time in a lot of pain all the time. But I was just always thinking about was once again, healthy and get back out there. I'm really sorry to hear that. Man, I thought I read something somewhere about you being sick but I had no idea that it was such a long and intense thing. I mean, forty five pounds. You're you're like a very fit guy. Can't imagine you forty five pounds less. I mean, is there forty five pounds take off of you even it's I know you're tall. But I was I was like skin. It was probably another two months and that would have been an game. Really what wasn't? They didn't figure out. What was the doctors just all maybe I drank some water. I shook. So must hand it was just some virulent bacteria to some freak thing. Just a weird thing that called kind of saddened me and groom growth. Is he went back to the states? You were getting stomach cramps. Then you went to continue walk in Europe and then hit you there and then you were stuck in London, basically, yes. So stateside I was just getting a little summit, geic, snitch, thought, maybe as eating something a stranger, maybe it was being Beckwith from bacteria in the water, something like that. And so little stomach aches. And then by the time I got Ireland, the pain out getting they've kind of spasms in the stomach for so bad. I was on the ground riding in for a full minute at a time, couldn't see just kind of black out for a minute in Bain, and it just got worse worse than basing my body started attacking itself. So wiped out all the good bacteria in mind testing inside develops. Colitis was bleeding internally and, like, and hold anything down and wasn't a everything was getting nutrition from because it wasn't absorbing in the intestine sends it was not a good time. It was just a lot. A pain, I know when I was going through it, I wasn't depressed or really down even because I had walked is started one. I've been thinking about since I was seventeen I had wealthed from Philadelphia all the way down to your web for two years. And I lived on one lip. So if that had been the end, I would have been fine with that. I would have been content gave him the shot. Wow, man, that's crazy that you were going through that much pain, and you were still having that kind of positive outlook. I mean when you say you were on the grounds. I'm blind in pain. That's, that's serious pain. Dude, I mean when you were going through this for year where you in that kind of pain for year was that coming and going like that, or that was even the worst of it. But from from Enron. It was probably about four months of going through having their spasms. And, and then there's like months where I had the colitis and just like everything I was just it was just paying all. They know seep into hours tonight, and it was just yet, there's, like two months where it was just like just nightmarish terror. We I mean that's just from the exhaustion. And the pain abbey, you could easily go the other way by that. I mean, the dearly departed, you know, I mean, it's it doesn't seem like it would be that far off when you're in that kind of situation also. You know, when you look back on something this, and we're talking about it. Okay. Well, it's one thing was, like, all right. Well, then, you know, it was like this for two months, and then, like, yeah, you're trunking out time. But like at the time, you, you didn't know what this was, or if it would ever go away. Right. I mean that's mentally taxing dude. Yeah, it was, you know, there's no clear and inciting doctors. They just couldn't, you know, I spent a month back and forth at the London hospital and getting every test under the sun in infections, in infectious disease. They can forget, what was even going back to the states. They never figured out what it was. So they just throwing antibiotic said it in tolls one of them started working and better, and that kind of medical more than once the bacteria was gone. Then they could start fighting the colitis outs says long process. And I never got to dark, it was just exhaustion, really from the pain and just like just ends, you know, the thing about it was back home, this, the blessing in the skies phantom win. Eagles went to the Super Bowl. Nice man. Well, I hope, like the two hours you slept that day wasn't during the game. Because that was one awesome game. Months of agony for, you know, for for that reward. It was worth it wondering why I'm giggling so much because we're both from Philly area. So we waited a long time for that. You know. You haven't had any sign of any of that coming back or relapse going totally healthy. The biggest thing was, you know, after walking south merg after we spoke in Ecuador, and then I would want to the desert of Peru in Chile football rows in the desert for about five months. All the ghost is all desert, so, and then crossing the Andes where it went up to about five thousand meters, it was extremely difficult walking, and I was just in such peak, physical and mental condition. I was so honed in and then to go from, like my absolute peak down to my absolute lumps physically, and in probably mentally to fitness, you're coming back to Europe was really just it was perfect timing, because there's easy walking in Europe. There's like pass. There's lot of towns. It's about to go from such a low back in the by really ease myself back into things physically and mentally, right? Yeah. It's kind of like a nice runway, I guess, to get the walk going again. So what do you have left now you've walked from after? Got through your illness and everything which we just heard that stores. No support thing but you flew back to London picked up in Copenhagen Denmark, where you left off. Okay. Yeah, you're right, though, I stopped in in Scotland, but it was such it was kind of difficult walking there because so cold and rainy as adding wanna go back into that not feeling one hundred percent. So I started in Denmark, where I knew there beat nice five easy walking into Germany of through Germany. Belgium, France, Spain and Morocco Algeria Tunisia of Italy something. Yeah. Now in Croatia. And so from here, make away busy along the coast to Greece, and then across Turkey into Georgia, Azure by fan across the Caspian Sea couple months in Kazakhstan across Mongolia, and then fly on the stray Leah across Australia fly to California across California back to New Jersey. Wow. So close, but not really. Like halfway long way to get it sounds close. When you just rattled off because you think just take a bus ear fly there. But no, you're walking your wall. I have so much experience now on the ground. I mean just looking ahead. We're gonna talk about where you've been, but do you look ahead and think nervous about that? Or you just kind of literally taking it one step at a time. One day at a time. I'm the worst of it Central America was the most dangerous part Beddoe be walking through and the rest. The only thing that I think will be pretty big challenge for main will be going through casick's Mongolian, because it's about a six month stretch, they're walking and since it's so far north out, probably do it in summer. Or if I if I go into winter it'll be pushing through snow and it'll be difficult going. So that's the only thing I got forgot the timing found going to work that out and but the rest of it, you know what I'm doing now. I got everything down that after South American Central America. I know what I'm doing. I know how to, you know, get water. How to find food out to find a place to sleep in strange places. Some not too concerned and the country's from here are relatively safe. So, yes, should be it should be good going to tell us how you do all those things. You just said, how you get better. How you find slice asleep how you get food. Yes. So water. I carry a water bottles. I have dromedary bags, which were just like six liter impenetrable bag, so they don't puncture anything. Verbal that varies country to country. Depends say in Peru, for example, by water. So I knew when I was in town little up on water. Get the bottle water in other places on longer stretches, maybe up to filter water or an develop place like going through Italy. They're found everywhere. I think going to the desert that would probably be the scariest right. The thing is generally walking roads. It's sometimes we'll pass, but they're usually at long roads are the best way to move internationally. So even cassock stand while goes through some very long stretches, you know, maybe two hundred kilometers, something like that. Without going to town, I should be able to bring a enough, it will especially up there, because it would be colder. I won't be sweating. I should be able to bring enough because I have cushite card diet can load up and make that last live on two liters of water a day, something like that. Food wise. I mean, you just carrying it all in the carton everything. Or are you have you become an expert at scavenging or finding food along the way? Or what have you been doing? No, no, no, no scam. I'm not like I'm not like shooting squirrels, or any. Oh, yeah. It's just dry goods. You know, load up on granola pasta peanut butter rice, whatever is available in the country that, dry, that I can bring with me. And then when I get down the night, just wolf down as much food as Canada restaurant drink a bunch of milk for the protein calories the fat. But otherwise, it's, it's pretty straightforward. It's just it's just a known how to known what works and what doesn't work to bring, and that's just dry goods. And then when I get into town down, and then as far as finding a place to sleep that is that's much more convoluted. That's much more of a feeling that you have to work out and each country, can't has a very different feel from how far part things are. And which people moving outside, for example, like when I was going through Morocco going through their, when their long days and people outside. Until eight thirty nine o'clock. So I had to wait until read before sunset busy to find a place where someone would stumble upon me and that, so it's really feeling on the country and knowing the terrain, where to look for places leave, and that's something developed over three years with finding weird places asleep fairly recently. I think I read a post in your blog, it was something sleep related. I think a policeman with you somewhere or something was an Bainian. I don't. Where was it cheerio? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What happening sell some stories man. You got to have a few. Out here. He was crazy on tree. It's very closed off. They are insular, if you is very difficult to be surprised that it's difficult to get in and they don't grant many of them. So I took a boat there from Valencia Spain, the border of Moroccan address close, though you gotta take a ferry down, and I get off the boat and basis. Get to. I walked just like not many just out here and get to the border control, and they see the ads for like right away. All over the police, and from that point on as soon as I got to the, the passport checking, I had police made through the entire length twenty four seven police ask with meeting tire line of Algiers, really. It was a very good thing at first because I had like some of these guys spoke a limiting list, and I could get local tips. I get into town and I said, you know, working out here, take place, and we'd had a good food incisive company where they would you buy dinner where they buy you dinner out of that work really by. Yes. Sure, I mean it wasn't expensive. You know, just starting bread and let me how many how, how long was the walk through JIRA? That was forty five days. Forty five days they gave you a police escort, the whole time the whole time and sometimes it was like there's a point because they wanted to watch because they didn't think you were safe. They went through. Really violent time with the civil war back in the day. And so the police has a really strong presence everywhere. Even if I wasn't there, there's at basically every town and like the round belt between every town, there's a police checkpoint area and this is like through this make sure there's no extremism entering the there's no there's a very safe country and it's was before the military, or is it because of the military, but so they already have a very strong police presence, but as far as why they were escorting me, I think is just because I don't know. I mean they don't let a lot of tourists in an American walking through that. They don't want any bad press, I guess that's it. But it was an insane. There's times as walking. There's like literally like twelve guys there's like three cars points. And I'm just a guy pushing the cart with my dog and have like an SUV in front of me to SUV's behind. It was crazy. Just going going really slow because you're just walking, right? Like it's walking and as real. It was surreal, man. And as soon as someone would come and talk to normally, I'm in whatever country people when not walk walking people wanna come and talk to you and Saturday doing whatever you just run into people, but in Algiers, some came over talk me all the police were out like right away. Interrogating this guy. What do you want this American? So it was it was very different experience for sure. So in that way, you got to hang out with locals and meet locals, but only police locals right? Because you couldn't get the other locals because the police would swarm them if you did. Yeah. Yeah. In, in that way, it was, it was a little sterile in that way, for sure. And also the other thing was they would let me Cam just say, it's unsafe you can't camp. So I had to get to hotel every night and it really like more on me where especially the last two weeks of JIRA tells where far apart lot so us thirty miles and I was going through that when. It was ten hour days of sunlight, and I would have to do ten hours walking. So I wouldn't walk up to sundown to get the so tell so they could like you'd should I stop, so they belong days and by, then I have been with these guys. And he just it's not that they're not good guys. But just watched all the time. Yeah. Ends it's crazy. Right. And so sometimes you just wanna sit and relax and just like chill, and be my thoughts. Instead, I have a police got him over to me as doing, like, I did your guy, but I just want to sit here and just be like an idiot zone out for I'm so low sugar and tired. I just wanna zone nothing. But you have these guys wanna talk to you. It was it was a really different challenge in a lot ways, and yeah. Let the police are they great just the presence of always having is on you. It wears on. You obviously, you didn't know this. When you chose to walk throughout jury. Right. Be had no idea. This was going to happen because you essentially. Pick your route rhyme you're walking around the world. But there's a lot of different ways you can do it. What drew you to that country? Yes, I wanted to Wofford, some of Africa. But the big promise walk in Africa is people be if I wanted to walk from the north to south. Sued end up taking years visas for these countries is continent. And so I do some of Africa and it's the best way to do that was just do the north student, Morocco donated these out only need to apply for Outtara in length. Do Taneja without a visa. I would've loved to have gotten to Egypt's and like, but the problem is Libya is a total mess right now. Lots of Lauren factions are not gonna walk across Libya right now. So just those three countries at the ALgeria was the biggest in the middle. And that's how I wound up there. That's a crazy story, man. All right. So what are some other things that have happened along the way? That's a very open ended question. And I know you could go million directions with this. But yeah, I wanna hear some tales from the road man because I know you gotta feel. Yes. I mean, there's been luncheonette stayed statements locals in Morocco a state with those into some young people that should be around. Tunis. With his beautiful. White City that you just never really hear about. I can't remember meant to Nizhny enough. It was beautiful countries super cheap, really friendly people and democratic open minded yet. And then getting into Italy, you know, I'm sure you've been in Italy Italy's, like just beautiful country in it. Lives up all the hype every every town is filled with history. Everyone so addressed and easy yelling. I mean, you're a very different experience in a lot of ways than, you know, South America, South America's very wild and you're been pretty easy. Some looking forward to moving along into some wilder countries, but the greatest stories of pride come out of. Qadri Taneja slept in some weird places met trained people what do you mean? Strange people in what way. So I don't know, for example, in, in Algiers. I get into this town this after despite like the longest while like maybe thirty six miles in the state to end up in this town later. Yes, there's no hotel there. But the police, tell me with place that you can stay. And it's his big ordeal, like twenty five policemen in this, like all work in justifying the place to stay. And so I get in the van they take me of to this. Up to this. Like I think it's going to be I don't know some government, boating or something like that. Or maybe like a lot of youth, hostels, and maybe one of those being like this guy who lake worth on cars up mountains since, like this really kind of like is like a sketchy some way up in the mountains. And they have a couple of dogs kinda beaten up, but they're nice enough and they have a they have a macaque monkeys there in ALgeria. And they have mccaskey monkey like side up and among this is really bizarre. My head's kind of Spain right now. And but so I get put into into this garage, and there's a little back room at a sleep on the sofa with this heater. And the owner sitting with me there, he doesn't speak any English. So, like they bring me some food. And I'm just sitting there like inside Lindh's Nadi in and he's just sitting there in silence and, and their stains on the wall. It's concrete and I don't. You know where I don't have internet connection anything like that. It's just really you have to put your Trump's in the police. And they got me all of us way. Yeah. If I'm a little off, you know, and it was just it was, it was just that I was so far away from everything. And I was out of internet connection and it was a little off. It was a little rough. But I could tell them the guy that was a nice guy, something. Okay. They had a sweet my fears, but everything else about the place it was like, I couldn't let the door Anders. This big hole in the wall night, put my car in front of the doors like the guy could just easily come this hole in the wall. And I'm just thinking, you know, I'm just gonna fall asleep, and that's all I can do, like there's nothing else I can do at this point falsely poker. The best and it was fine. And then nice guys yet there's certain points where, you know, you just have to trust this local and Anya, and it works out most, I mean, for me, I think one of the most psychologically, challenging things would be the finding the place to sleep outside. at night night after night in countries all over the place, you're going through urban areas suburban areas like outskirts of cities. You're just in so many different types of environments, and I mean, anybody listening to this just take walk around, and look around and just figure out a place to sleep at night. It's not always that straightforward. Right. Yeah. You can find a place to sleep, but are you gonna feel? Are you gonna get trouble? Are you going to feel comfortable? Are you going to be like scared the whole night that you can't sleep? I mean, how do you deal with all this? It's a challenge every night, most of the time that it's big it's kind of like a game and it's ugly in a way because you really huge. Also, yet to figure out to find your way and all these different things, the best is like, in the desert scrape because no one's gonna show up just walking desert's perfectly, Mark. But then you said there's other times walking through Colombia or 'Argentina where it's more populated, and you don't know maybe how safe it isn't gotta find a place to hide away. But the thing is also about it is that when the sun's going down. Choice guy. Find somewhere and places are less than ideal but generally wanted stark and your hidden away, you're good. I mean, it would take crazy. Odds for someone to spend on you. Unless you're on someone's land or something like that. If I'm somewhere, if I can find a little patch woods or an abandoned house, or something of myself away. They're not used my headlamp anything like that. The odds of someone stumbling by me, you're just gonna be wandering around, you know, at night through forest or wherever it is, it's really. Make it until park and is probably good. So don't call during the their house kind of scary. A lot of in houses. And I at first, I remember when I was, I say that was in Ecuador in L dislike it was so hard to sleep, and I slept ripe, like there's a stairwell in, you know, sleep on the second floor but the Fender thing like someone's gonna come in here for four but often Peru improve the hand weird law, where if you build a house on some land, and you living in it for ten years, then you just own that land. So what happens is, these rich people built on his little brick houses. They pay a homeless guy to live there for ten years, and then they own the land. And so they're all along the desert these have been houses now sleeping in all the time. And after a while I would only look for them because after, you know, like even these foods, there'd be like these documents with empty houses in there. Be one guy living in this development you could find people now skirts, one of his houses, fine. We'd being the desert and be nothing around to this one little house. And they're great, you out of the winds and you have low concrete, you can cook on, and I started looking for this even though the sun's going down you're like art. We can always find a way to talk away, but can you there must have been some nights, where in urban areas, just like all right? Where am I actually where am I going to go? And then do you just get a place to stay or? Yeah. I mean through central South America. I was really tight on money through the entire way. So it was extremely rare that I got a hotel or something like that. Unless the country's really cheap. Now in Europe, it's especially to Italy. It was really difficult. Finding places asleep buddy can generally find a campsite it's been more. It's been more of a mix in Europe between hotels and camping except the Americas. I was camping like probably twenty eight out of thirty nights as camping the entire time pretty much any year with is patriot able to get some more hotels when I need to great kinda take some of the venture out of it. But it's, it's a good thing. I think you've earned your adventure stripes man. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big enough adventure. But all as like I remember one in specific actually that was thinking about going through Panama and like look back on. It was insane. Places sleep and actually affect Kabbadi. But as welcome the PanAmerican up in the mountains, and the road is pretty small, there's not a ton of cars, but everything will people neither side of the road, and it's kind of really thick almost jungle nowhere. I could get in, like find a place to sleep and I just walked and this happens decent amount of time, but I'm just walked, and then it was dark, and there's not been, there's just like a paragraph on the side of the road, laid, my in kind of, in this little ditch I laid out my end, just as I fell right, beside the road equipment has been so easy to find me. I'm braid there. But if laid their turn headlamp on on kinda hidden fall asleep wake up before sunrise, and I'm going, okay. And the setup is just a tarp and a sleeping bag. Is that off? That's what it is in up in the mountains. So there's no mosquitoes or anything like that. And that was low profile. Because if I set up the ten it would have been people have seen me in the use the tarp as well. You know, there's no rain, there's no bugs. But generally, yes, I set up ten do you set up the tart when you have just the tarp set up like the minimal setup you just setup the tarp like attend and sleep under it or how all asleep, all in the tent are on the tar, you just lay on the ground, just sleep on it. Yeah. Got it. It's nice best man. That's the best best leap in how did you get through the dairy gap is? That's the connection point between Panama and South America. Right. But it's like a wooded area. Do you have to go around that or how does that work? Yeah flew over it. I think that there's been a handful of people have crossed that actually has serious thing. You can't really do that. Yeah. No, it's dangerous. There's no roads through it. There's narcotraffickers through there. I mean I'm sure like doesn't Vissel thing in itself. And there's yeah that. I'm not I'm not that big of an answer. No, I was gonna say, if you walk through that, then that's just crazy talk. I mean you landed in Shwe to the southern tip of South America Argentina. Right. It's a beautiful area down there. How did you feel when you got there when you hit the southern tip of South America was Anna climactic or were you just like fall on your knees by God? I did it. Yeah. No, you're at the end of the world. I mean it's beautiful area, and to get down there. And then I took a ship to Arctic associate would plan my feet on an article for a little bit. I mean just going going down to Antarctica your own like an alien planet. There's no stock humans, and it's just another world. But yeah, finishing the Americas was is monumental. And even when I look back on it, even then, like you just walked the is insane walked from Philadelphia all down to Uruguay. It was insane. That's crazy. It's nuts. Man. I I mean I it out of your front door. Right. That's the thing that's even I just love that idea. I've talked about on the podcast before just the idea that you can leave your front door and go on some epic adventure like this, and you have done that. And it's, it's so inspiring man, you mentioned patriot. If you want just drop any links here now if people wanna support your adventure where can they do that? It's just the world walk across everything Instagram. Facebook pincher to way to grab that handle. That's easy. Right. The world walk. I mean there it is that says it all. Okay. So it says a lot that you've been to all these countries and you're really digging Italy. What is it about Italy? That's been so special in terms of traveling through on foot. Yeah. I mean Italy's just there's, it's so dense in history. I've never been to a place where even little Ville, his entire or in southern Italy, or in, in Sicily, every Ville, beautiful church and beautiful little square. And it's just every square into this place is just as just beautiful. It was easy walking comparatively. But typically I was up in the mountains, and then from room to Florence across mountains a little bit. And it's a nice variety. You walk along the coast. Beautiful mountains. Beautiful issues and the bull this great coffee. The food is great. They're also well dressed, like it's, it's end there, you are pushing your cart having our today's. Are you showering and rivers and stuff like that, if you're outside for while or do you just wait till you get hotel rooms and things like that? Sure. I mean, if there's nice water definite jump in. Yeah. I mean, I do wanna get Todd shower, but nice, nice river creek. Or sometimes it's hot. Yeah. For sure jumping, there, you must have learned a lot in terms of, like, how much you've packed on your car, and everything have you stripped down things pretty good. Yeah. I mean it's exactly what I need. Nothing of excess. I use everything. It's, it's like a balanced of. So, for example, say, I can't like Parrilla tape with me and I almost never use it. But it's the type of thing that I don't be somewhere without it's so useful. Do need it. So that's worth carrying. And so it's always it's just weighing out. Vital thing is versus. I'm supposed to way versus. How am I gonna use this thing? And I definitely had pared down to everything. I have is either extreme important where I use it every day. What kind of reaction do you get? When you tell people what you're doing. Do you try to keep that on the DL when you're interacting with somebody or if they ask you'll tell them or do you let fly because, you know, it makes it good store makes it makes it a lot easier to connect with people. When you have a story like that, right? Yeah. Generally, I just say I need someone to try to get them all been somewhere. That's similar been like this is how Columbia was or you know, this is seven because when I say. Around the world, it ends up just dominating the conversation, and I have this ethin- explain they, you're walking around the world you walk in, and he's like you happening mean and then being the same conversation most of the time. Oh, yeah. Walking. I walk in camp. And I welcome at game while I camp and sit. Just. Yeah, I let it kind of slip under the radar vacant and try and have a conversation with the local. Learn more about them. How are you different from the guy who stepped out of his door? In Philly, those years ago, I was however many years has been now two thousand fifteen I thought I was somewhat worldly back then. And back you just such an idiot, and the world. I mean just in life, you know, you don't change one moment on different person. Now, it's kind of this gradual thing, and I'm so much more. I've seen so much more seen different cultures people foods. I've been through stuff challenges and tests, does of will and physically that just more worldly Morsch assured of where I am where I stand in the world. And the other thing I would say is that came out of walk in his self. It was kind of a byproduct of just walking every day. So say for example, it's getting. Present the day. I'm not feeling good. Or is maybe a amid advice campsite right now? And it's say it's six o'clock in the sun goes eight o'clock, so six o'clock as this nice greenfield, or something, who is camp play at I keep talking trying to get as much miles as I can in and then call the day, find some receive but after a while started realizing like I'm gonna walk another hour, three miles at this is a twenty five thousand mile walk. I can relate, I can hold those three miles so tomorrow, and this is sort of fit everything in my life with photography where with my photography. I don't really try to. I don't have any angst. Brag, I like a need to become a better for talk for. It's just trust the process. Can take one good photograph and try and get low better than that. And do that every day, and you get better. And so it's told me the way I think about is you, you can't walk around the world today as with any project. So. Oh, just one little piece at a time. And then that's it. And be satisfied today. I walked two miles a day, I won't eighty miles. Okay. Good job due to do whatever you other tomorrow the pace of walking around the world. As slow down in all of your other activities. Right. It sounds like it's, that's a nice place to be got rid of, I think, in western culture, just like in, there's a lot of competition. So you feel like they're always behind when you're trying to do something creative than that you need to do something more. But you've just got to control we can control do little bit. And it'll add up to some bigger, and I've come to buy that was basically everything. And so you have removed a lot of angst. That's a big thing. I think if you're able to shed that western mindset, which were brought up in, which is that idea of more is better. Always wanting more needing more getting needing to get better. Like you said this sense of urgency, and particularly I, I mean I can't speak for everybody, but I can relate to what you're saying, totally being from the northeast, and there is something with the hustle, and bustle, the northeast. But this is just generally in America and. I don't want to speak for other western cultures. I guess, because we crop in the states. But it is there is this very much this what we just described. Right. So to be able to shed. That is a is a total life perspective changed. I mean that complete change your life, right? Like your everything. Yes. Sure, I mean, lady said in, especially in the northeast which is very fast paced area of the states and is built around this huge metropolitan areas where there's a lot competition. Definitely have this expectation that you need to, you know, facility, certified, you need to have the bigger house need to have your in a lot of competition with basically every aspect of your life in your own show, and that kind of the competition is forces, you to think that if you're not there immediately, then you're just you're no good in your you know, or you need to get there faster in everything you do has to be one hundred percent has yet to maximize listen to all these podcast. Now a lot of the podcasts, I listen about Gus all day like this thing that you just hear about all the time. It's just like here's how you can learn efficiently do this more efficiently to make you more productive in this cake. Wrightson fries me, fricking crazy. Just take the photograph do, right. At thousand words, podcast and improve that one percent just just by doing it. You're gonna improve because you're going to be critical of yourself and that's not in just chill out Jubilo, but each day, and that's it. And if you get. Better good. If not whatever I think you should write a are. I think you should started podcast. And this is just it's just a five minute episode. Just take that audio clip. We'll publish it there. It is. Everybody just chill out. You're gonna do better over time. Everybody. Frigging. Relax. Okay. Five minutes on cast when you came home, obviously, you started having the pain and everything like that, but was strange to be back in the states sickness stuff aside. What was that, like? I remember when I when I first went back after I remember driving down main street in our town, I grew up in like this. Nice little suburbs. In south jersey. I'm drumming on the street me like this is utopia by this place is so nice. I did not appreciate it. I suck ball. Everything's clean trash cans. Nice streetlights coffee shops. They grew up in a utopia. You've really seeing it for the first time in a way. Yeah. Yeah. You see how, and it's not to say, like in Argentina or in, in the mountains of Colombia, where most people live in concrete house. Maybe with tin roof rebar on top. So when they have money because they can't get Bank looms when they have money they build a second story kind of thing in the living very small square footage. It's not that Moore less happy, but to see at into see, you know, the quality of things that we. We have in America and of infrastructure. It's like you go back in, like I went to grade school and my town's very safe, and it's super calm and you know, it's just a nice place to go back you realize, man, I was I've on, like, basically the lottery of where I could've born and the time in everything. So is very that. But otherwise. Yeah. When I was sick, it was just I was I wasn't anywhere. I was just existing. I must have been strange to maybe run it some old friends, and just had all these experiences, and it was hard to relate and some women. You can't articulate everything. You've been through. Yeah. Yeah. It's. You grow. I mean, and I think I grew more than most people do in two years. So I definitely fell separated from them in a certain way. It was nice to go back in just like out with him and relaxing, just be totally comfortable and after being when I'm on the road, I don't really have any deep connections with anyone. I need people maybe for a day or two in it's nice, but the go back my friends, I've known these guys for years. It was it was great. I mean I could you know, joke them in relaxed speak the same language. We have the same rhythm of humor, and that's nice, but then a assert heart may is thinking you know, I just I'm conversant in I've seen different things in and but that's nothing to hold against them. And it's just we're slightly different people in but yeah, it was just a. More or less just it was good to see them because I needed some good I needed to be able to joke with people in station. He needs some good old-fashioned. Philadelphia ball busting it sounded like sit right? I'm glad to hear you haven't lost your accent either which is getting. Well, you mentioned seeing friends and missing friends and in the first podcast recorded because I listened to it before chat today. And you talked about some of the things that you were having to sacrifice for the walk, right? You hadn't seen your family since Georgia at the time you had to give up a girl, you were in love with all the sacrifices. You've made to do this walk. How do you feel about the sacrifices now for years later? I mean it's kind of almost forgotten about. Now back then, when it was a year ago year after I started a little over year. It was still more more poignant. It was still closer in the rear view mirror, all these things that kind of this big change in lifestyle. But now there's just my life. And when I look at in from Ramirez walking so, really, I don't really think about it. I mean with the family doesn't give away. The thing I think about more, especially I turned thirty earlier in April, and you kinda get like nesting syndrome where like get a house and give my plot of land and have a wife and kids and something like that. And I think that more challenging, because it wasn't something that I like it wasn't some person or some physical concrete thing that gave up, it was more like this lifestyle that I choose to push back. And when I was really craving glinted Spain Morocco Algeria for some reason, I was having these, like, I, I was just fantasize all day of the house. I was going to build. It was this lifestyle that I can have an took me months to get asset, and then just relax, again, and settle into the welcome. That was the choice of this walk in is that life is kind of I think it's up to timing when I'm young, I don't have responsibilities as many to do this, and later, I'll be able to get the house and the what. And everything else. This is the choice. I made in. Yes, it's gala with how are you enjoying the lifestyle of being on the road? I'm not comparing it to like the other lifestyle, you could have but just taking it for what it is. How are you enjoying it? It's like the greatest thing mazing. I mean, I think even just the physical victim using my body eight hours a day. And that's something I didn't we forget that where we came from ever Lucien airy Garonor is, and we are hunters, and we're always using our body and it's just so good for you feel so good. When I'm on the road, besides his terrible illness, which was a free thing that never sick. I don't get the sniffles. I never like get congested. I'm just I feel good all the time. My brain is short. And when I get my ten at night, I'm tired. I'm ready to sleep in when I wake up. I got a full mix lead by good. There's a certain amount of regularity, which is nice and Sibeko. Eat walk. Find places leave. And so I do have my rhythms in my rhythm every day, something, different and meet a different person, or have different food. So it's like the perfect balance of scheduling and, and control versus serendipity and being opened things happening. Are you disconnected? You have a be doing blogging. Obviously, you have your computer with you. I'm guessing give a smartphone with you. Yup. Art. How much are you on those types of things? I mean it sounds like you're listening to podcasts. Lot of the day. Tell me about your relationship with technology while you travel. Yeah, I the podcast pretty much all day. I mean some pro hours without listening to it in its little more meditative. But technology it's crucial. I mean by phone is the ultimate Swiss army knife. And, you know, so it's got GPS Nate flashlight. It's got music, is that podcast. It's got whether it's got everything in there. And so I'd extra batters made a power. It I'm not like screen time on the screen all the time. But I do listen to a lot of Bob gassed, and it should socially useful tool. I mean, there's no reason to go without it, improved, for example, going to the desert, like with, I didn't have any certain site usually just left my phone off, most of the time and really to meditative quiet, hours and will probably have that again in San Mongolia. But it's nice when again to tell to be able to call my family and connect with them for a little bit. And you know, have conversation in English, in it's crazy time we're live at men. What do your parents think about this right now? Now that you're the so far into it. It's just life. You know, it's just like just become acclimated to it, essentially. Yeah. My mom was, you know, she was definitely more has done about me going before his baby. Boy leave in on this big adventure. My dad was like go. Whatever sounds great banal. It's just grain. Go walk around the world. You. So nonchalant. Yes. Just life, you know. And I know what I'm doing, and I'm through the most countries so. Yeah, it's, it's ju- normal speaking of dangerous. Did you experience any dangerous situations? Along the way so far. In anima got held up at knife point Panama City, but it working out. It was, you know, spine nothing. Get kinda like backed into shop another guy grabbed my backpack, which had all important stuff in it, but amazingly like they're having to be police there and they grabbed the guys my backpack right away. I got super lucky. So that was fine. And then other than that. No. I mean every once in a while this is another thing another, buddy. I grew one I'm grown up in the suburbs. I just everyone's nice in the town of safe, and I don't have any sort of sense for people in whether I should trust them or not in any sort of dire sense. But as I go, you meet people in you'd find some trainer people some they just don't trust. And when I'm on the road in it's just me so I have to trust myself, and I've gone really good. I remember in Argentina Argentina right right after this. Salts lattes this. On me trying to talk to me for while. And I just didn't have a good sense about him. And before I would fi just like put up with them. But then I was like, dude. I'm walking loom. Leave me alone. Want like I don't want you follow me kind of thing like this, and, and then just walked on. And so there's, there's definitely a growth where I just learned to, like, I'm gonna meet someone else down the road. And if you get a bad vibe, some from someone I cut it off onto the next thing, but there's been nights. I mean, there's discussion is in Morocco sleeping in weird places in these low valleys and like trying to make a little noise and shows little lightest possible. But everything that hasn't been anything besides like gin held, I pointed Panama City, besides that it's been smooth sailing. Didn't hear sounds like getting your street smarts. I guess you would call that right? Just. Yeah. Their homes. When the Spidey senses, tingling, you just speaking up, instead of kind of letting it happen. And that is something you have to me. I grew up in the suburbs as well. And you know it's just not accustomed to being in inner city environments when you're younger and then you have to learn. Okay. Well, hey, I got a kind of suss things out sometimes and protect myself. And that means speaking verbally, or whatever it can be. Yeah. Can be a tricky thing. You know, you'll also want to stay open and be able to meet people at the same time you've got to trust your instincts. Right. And you want to be raised just gotta plagued everyone's be polite. Don't hurt anyone's feelings, and don't be mean right thing. But if you don't get a good vibe from someone. That's okay. Just leave. You're gonna meet someone else later, you'd be in. That's like to wanna be open to things. But there's you're gonna meet plenty of people when you're traveling, you don't have to trust every single person, right? How about kindness of strangers because we talked about some of the dangerous stuff. But I'm sure you've had plenty of, of that you wanna share a story or to some, some mazing serendipitous things just really nice people that have helped you out along the way. I mean in general sense is just endless in, I've been out many times on the road people stopping to Guinea food. I've been brought in, in probably every country passenger someone is giving me a place to stay on the scale on statistically so much like a million to one that things happening. And I think people forget about it. When you see the news. It's very easy to blow up things in your head that if the world's dangerous place. But people everywhere in Algiers, I mean, the, the Muslim culture that really, really welcoming they're extremely, when they're their own. They really go out of their way to make you welcome. And so go throughout JIRA. I had I the MasterCard debit card, and there was only like three cities or maybe four cities Bank, where I could withdraw money from with MasterCard. And I didn't realize that I had a money cash coming in new eighty cash. And then I was in, I was able to say with some friends friends of friends in their house at the beginning. So it wasn't that much money and get to Algiers. Which is the capital does not end air of money. I don't need enough fine. And I didn't know at this point that the mess card was the only thing Doni way to. Certain banks, which money and then, so I start walking again, and I find the police are saying need hotel, every night, I found myself going through my cash really quick and found myself in a hotel without any money, basically. And I text my, my friend friend, who's on the other side of the country. I'm like a dude. I don't have any cash like Juno options ways to, you know, any anything I can do it coat on one second, I'll have someone, Dr some money out, you ran out. So he like makes them calls knows a guy out there. And the giants like so far out of his way up into the mountains and just gives me busy essentially like a hundred dollars algae indeed are all all like pay really give Email or something. I'll pay you back. Don't worry about it is fine. Take it religion. Yes. Crazy. And I mean it was so far out of the way like this guy who I know who this guy wasn't. He just trove out. Of the way just give me something money. That's it. And I got in jury to put up all the time in like youth house, some of that. I'd when there wasn't hotel somewhere, we've been at hotel. Sometimes it just like I know about it safer for aids. It's on us and like more than any other place. I got like welcomed and put put up places for free. How is the money situation holding up? I mean had the sickness and everything I don't know if that was the whole unexpected expense. Or if you had travel insurance house, the whole money, thing working out for you yet. The when I got sick, it was a problem down. I had some like emergency exactly for this saved up. Some emergency phone saved up that depleted it all. And then, so I basically got a couple of jobs, once I started getting healthier, I was doing odd jobs for a friend of friend, like working on a house to get a little bit of cash, but I had my sponsor and once I started up again they started. Give me few minutes, and they're not Tony was enough for South America Central America. But with like I said, with my patriot now, people both guards I sent him touch note related hotels that I can send from my phone arrive in the mail to them. And so that takes a lot of the pressure off. So good. Now, the patriot helps a lot and I, I'm not to say I should done it from the beginning. But I'm glad to have out because I can relax a little bit in. I'm good. I'm not I'm not a wealthy man. But I, I I'm just walking in canton, most time. So I can brief. That's great. And you got good, companionship, I guess, with yourself your podcasts on your dog, of course, which is great to hear that Savannah's doing. Well, I mean it's pretty amazing that you've been able to get her into all these countries as well. I mean sounds like you've obviously done the legwork with the paperwork and everything like that. But has that been challenging at all having a dog with you? It's not as challenging as think that come. Is when traveling like for the paperwork, the paperwork, if you're going to Europe, it's a little difficult. But when travelling overland if you're fined somewhere, you need really need to have the proper paperwork in order travel overland through central Manica or South America, generally just like basic house, or typically it, and the rabies vaccine so super, it's really easy after countries didn't even knowledge her. And then things like the hotels when they're in a developed country you can always find a hotel that's pet friendly. And if an undeveloped country, where they don't like dog generally, it's more street dogs. It's a mom-and-pop will tell so you can just convince them and you say, look, I'm gonna leave all sleep somewhere else. She's a fine dog kind of thing. And, you know, the money and so just convinced them and let them in and yeah. Those are the two big things, and I think their Dell's, Madame standing grounds and. Just really just being ready to leave to. And with the transporting is just you got to put the time in the longest I spend was a month to get savannah to Europe and then she's in, she's in EU passport in peace gate. Now, does she ever loose steam when you're walking before you do as she figured out, she can ride on the car yet? Yeah. That's she doesn't know that don't. No. She's finished. And I sit down at the end on like exhausted. I'm like I can lead to eat is once it down, and she'd prep sticking comes over like supply like we just walked twenty five miles and you still wanna play this endless, she might be the first dog that walks around the world when you finish this actually actual be the first to do the Americas. I think she will be afraid to do the world. That's awesome. Well, it's been so great catching up with you. I mean I could talk to you all day and get more stories, and I would I would love to keep going, but I wonder spec, your time as well, and it will really be great to get you on again. When you get to the states and you're coming towards the, the final the final push. Or maybe, you know, at some point, then, so we should we should definitely connect man, I'd love to I go. Visit my family, maybe be there when you cross the finish line man. It would be great to meet person. But we'll be following along and the website again, the world, walk dot com and Tom, it's, it's always a pleasure, catching up with your man. I do. I sometimes I just be in the middle of my day. And I'll be I'll just think about you and I'll be like, man. I hope Tom's doing doing good out there. And it sounds like you are, and I'm so glad you're yeah, you're just recovered from all from all that. And, you know, sending you the best on the rest of your journey man. Yeah. Yeah. It's always great talking to you. Thank you so much. And did I leave anything out or? No. That's good. Man recovered a lot of grounds. All right, buddy. Well, you've covered a lot of ground. Good. Good luck, man. Full chats. In sounds good. There you have it. Right. Just incredible. And all share some thoughts on this in a moment. I wanna thank Tom really quickly for taking the time to come back on the podcast and give us his update. I really hope I can get there for the end of his trip, somehow it loved to beat him person and be there at the finish line when he walks back to his hometown after being gone for so long and being all over the world by foot just incredible. Before I share some thoughts on this interview quickly wanna thank Tortuga backpacks for supporting today's show. I mean, if you haven't checked out the two backpacks yet, you've heard me ranting and raving about them over countless episodes, what you waiting for zero to travel dot com slash tour. Two. I've curated the best backpacks and put him on that page for you. So you don't even have to dig through the website. 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And before I let you go just want to say, I want to hear your thoughts on this interview and adventures like this when he talked to somebody that's walking around the world. It seems like. Well you seem so huge and it is it's a huge adventure. But when you actually get to talk one on one with somebody here. What? It's like on the ground. It just really brings it to life and makes it seem less daunting in some way because, you know, there's human being out there in this case, Tom, just taking it literally one, step at a time figuring out where to sleep one night at a time figuring out how to sustain it in terms of income, and I'm just so glad he's healthy after that healthcare. And he's back out there on the road and just not stopping so committed to this dream. It is so inspiring, and it's incredible reminder of what a human being is capable of when they are committed. You can hear that Tom's just committed to the stream there is no wavering. There is no doubt. He is walking around the world, and I have no doubt that he's going to finish it, and you could probably hear that from this interview, and I really encourage you to listen to the first interview we did together when he was in Ecuador time in all linked to that in the show notes. But I think it's just a great reminder to sum this up that we are capable of so much, and also that the means by which we travel does impact travel experience. So walking biking saying, hostels using public transportation, renting a car, these are all going to change the travel experience. Neither for better or worse is just going to be different and something to keep in mind as you plan your trips or maybe mini adventures within your trip. You know, what are some things that you can do to kinda have some of these, maybe we wanna get a little slice of Tom's life. Maybe we don't wanna walk around the world, but maybe instead of taking the bus to this popular set, I'm going to see on this particular day, maybe I'm gonna walk those four or five miles see without experiences like walking Tom shoes, a little bit, and see what it's like the walk along a road where everybody else is driving, or passing through I it's just a, it's fun. You can experiment with travel. You can have fun with it. You can test things out and try different things out and see what the experience is like, see how it feels we don't have to do these big grand adventures, but I love that people are out there doing them. And thank you to Tom for continuing to inspire me. And thank you to everybody listening to this show because you also inspire. Me and keep me going. Your emails, your comments. The reviews leave for the podcast. I've been doing this show for over five years now, because of you. This is a community powered show, and I want you to get in touch anytime. 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33 | Ames
"They're just terrified. They had no clue. They didn't know the area. They had no idea what they were in for. They thought it was all games is not the transition into combat as a difficult one by any standard no matter how sufficiently trained you are. There is no substitute for reality to give you a sense of how you're going to respond under fire and how well you can coordinate with the rest of your team for Daniel aims that kind of responsibility, put him right, where he wanted to be even when it led to dangerous places, and like where are the civilians? I'm like, we gotta go, and I go to look over at my platoon sergeant and he's standing there with the platoon leader. And I hear this, the sloughed like like a snap. And I see blood spread of his face. What is true bravery? What makes a hero, a hero tested by the worries of what's happening at home thousands of miles away, and the reality of what you're facing here, and now when your life is in danger, every second, and it's either kill or be killed and original podcast from incongruity media. This is Anthony Russo and this. Is war. In a way, Daniel aims always was down for the military though. He didn't go directly after high school for a variety of reasons. One was that he'd been busted for pot was pretty sure that would keep him out. And the other was that he had a pretty good job and a live in girlfriend, Danielle whom he was pretty sure it was going to marry still he felt adrift and believed that he could find a purpose in the military, plus his father had been Vietnam veteran and aims felt as if he had something to live up to my father, he passed away in nineteen ninety two it was pretty traumatic is December twenty third ninety two. We were heading to my grandmother's house, down in South Carolina, and we didn't know but he had gotten laid off basically the night of the twenty second this early morning on the twenty third. He just surprised us and said, hey, we're gonna head down to your grandma's for Christmas a little early. And we didn't think anything of it. We just kept rubbing his chest. And he just seemed a little out of it, but, you know, he had a really positive attitude, and he ended up having a massive heart attack on the highway about twenty miles from my grandma's house. That was my first taste death at nine but I know that he was airborne. He was a jump master had gotten three purple hearts in Vietnam. He was also repel master, and he just done all this great stuff. And I didn't know a lot about it. And I never got to discuss it, and I figure, well, I'm not doing anything. I'm tired of seeing all this on the news, I would kinda like to do it myself, and I figured it would make him proud. I had it fairly decent job, but it was just really boring. And I had buddies who had enlisted and went to Afghantistan and the first few months of Iraq. And I just that's, that's what I wanted to do was headed to the nearest recruiter where he promptly was turned away for the drug bust. But an army recruiter grabbed him and said he could make things right. Aims didn't care much about what job he got just as long as it included airborne, and he got to fight the recruiter accommodated, but elected Nantou report Ames's criminal record opting instead to leave it out altogether. So instead of heading right off to basic training. He was bounced out before his career even started as two thousand. And five approach though waivers became a lot easier to get. So he refiled by the time he left for fort sill in February. He was married and father to a three week old daughter basic was a little funny for us. If you look up my training battery which was FOX one to two it doesn't exist anymore. It was actually created for only a few cycles. All my drill sergeants were activated reservists. So they were extra grumpy that they got activated to do this. One of my guys in my squad. His birthday was only like a week from mine I turned twenty two in basic training. I believe he turned twenty I think one of my most memorable things was them finding out that our birthday was that week and making us go through the mud and everything like multiple times. They filmed it and everything to give to our families when their families got there. It wasn't all bad. I think the biggest thing that sticks in my mind is some of those guys that I was there with, including my battle buddy like. The guy that I bumped with we not only went to basic together, but went straight to airborne school, and then also went to first duty station together. So I actually got to stay with these guys from day, one up until they decided to leave the unit, or God forbid were killed in combat which did happen to one of my really good friends from basic training, after Jim school hand, Danielle started packing up their gear to move to fort BRAC, although they decided that she would go back to live in Fort Wayne with her mother during his first deployment, while they both acclimatize to base live aims wasn't set to be deployed anytime soon, but the second has a global response tutti and in late August, just as he and Danya were packing up their home Hurricane Katrina made landfall and just like that his lead was over the best way, I can describe it as surreal, we actually flew into the Louis Armstrong international airport because there was no power. You know what I mean? We, we land at the airport, and it, it sounds like making it up. But the second we. Walked into the actual terminal first thing we see, when we walk in is a body in a body bag on a stretcher like right there in the terminal our job as a alpha battery in Bravo battery I three nineteenth. Our job was to put them on the aircraft. Check them for weapons and contraband and then get them on these flights. But the thing is they had no choice of city. It's you're on this plane. You're going be Missouri. Texas. It didn't matter. People had automatic weapons drugs. It was insane, but as long as they dropped it didn't give us any problems. We wouldn't detain anybody or anything like that. Our job was to fly them out. But about a week into it. They moved us to Martin Luther King elementary school, in Algiers, which is more of a project area across the river. Now that was a little intense. We did find a couple of bodies tied and shot. I couldn't tell you who did it by that time most of the houses in the area. Had this Ray paint on the front because the infantry had already cleared it, but our job was to go around the area and see if anybody needed any assistance, but we really didn't find anybody that needed help, you know what I mean. It was totally different to see not even so much the dead people dead, people, we kinda just could push out of our minds because obviously, if there's tied like that. Like, somebody had a problem with them, it seemed more personal the thing that really to this day, still hurts me about being down there, like I felt great what we were doing, but a lot of the people that were left behind, and you don't even hear much mention of it was people that were elderly in retirement homes, assisted living communities. They were left behind, so they're finally getting evacuated. You know, these people have been for days sitting in their own filth. A lot of them have dementia stuff like that. They don't know what's going on in. They're saying, well, my daughter lives in Missouri. Can can this plane take me to Missouri, while I know that this plane's going to Oklahoma? But I can't bring it to, you know, I can't tell her that I just say, yes, ma'am, that's where it's going because we have a choice, we had to get the people out. And I think that was the most heartbreaking thing was seeing the people that were just abandoned August isn't the nicest time of year to patrol in Louisiana, but for better for worse aines was there for just under the thirty day, Mark that would have qualified him and his team for separation pay. They flew back to brag and started training for their deployment. But there wasn't much need for artillery in Iraq so they were trained as infantrymen and as the war went on. He and his platoon were attached to different elements, having to wait your turn to go to war is a particular kind of tension, especially when you see your friends, packed off, while you're still sitting there waiting, I know that we were all nervous to go, but everybody was so pumped you know, a lot of us had not deployed before. And like I said, I was fortunate enough to have several friends from basic all the way through that got to go with me. My buddy. Marshall, he was a thirteen FOX, which is the guys that call for artillery strikes. They moved all of them to five seventy third, and different Cav units. And in April of two thousand seven there was a large attack in Baku largest mass casualty event for the eighty second since Vietnam. And one of those casualties was Marshall, he didn't have a lot of family that showed up for basic training graduation and stuff. So my mom and stepfather had kind of took him in with us. So and invited him back to the hotel and took him out to dinner and everything. So there was a little bit more of a special connection than most of the other guys that I went to basic with, because he actually spent time with my family prior to all this. I can't remember if it was something that we were briefed on, we did just we, obviously knew that guy's and five seventy third were killed, but we didn't have the names. I wanna say, honestly, I saw it in the stars and stripes, the names. And I saw Randall Marshall was one of them. Yeah. I think I actually found out from a newspaper by the time spring gave way to summer aims, new wear. And when he was going, they'd been attached to the twenty fifth infantry division and were bound for patrol based woodcock not far from the larger camp spiker, and they'd be relieving an element of the hundred and first they weren't in the patrol base long before they had their first contact, but it wasn't an enemy attack. Instead, it was the second time in eighteen months at Ames was nearly killed by friendly fire. The first time had been in Louisiana. We were patrol in the grounds of the elementary school at night, because we would hear gunshots, stuff like that. We had blackwater driving a PC through the side of the building through the Elham entry school because they claim that they saw guys with guns. It was us so they drove right through the side of the gym. We're all sleeping in the gym, and they about ran a couple of our guys over, you know, they jumped out all gung ho with their with their weapons and everything. It's like, you know, we're, we're active duty army. What the hell? So that was the first time blackwater almost killed me as aims and the rest of the third brigade combat team set up their patrol base. One of their first tasks was to deal with particular insurgency harassment. It's somewhere between about a mile and a half to two miles between the main gate of Spyker an MS Tampa, which is the main highway. Well, they have the big blimp cameras, and we have guards in the towers and stuff. But like I said, that's a two mile stretch, what was happening is the enemy was dropping tank mines or were hastily burying ID's and minds right at the entrance of the gate and MS are Tampa. And there was something like five or six people killed in the span of a couple of months, right there. So what we did was we set up a small kill team and s k t to do overwatch of that entrance. And if we saw anybody stopping vehicle drop something or trying to dig, we're gonna kill onsite right? Across from Speicher was a thing called a ESPN app. Mos supply point that ASAP, was thousands and thousands of tons of buried munitions and the only guards that were in that ASP was a blackwater compound. I wanna say they had maybe fifteen or twenty guys at most. So we brief them. 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Sergei landed in September two thousand and six things were brisk, but after the fall of the attacks started in earliest, there was a bypass that connected route Tampa with camp striker, but traffic on it was limited to Iraqi and coalition forces which meant it was an I d magnet aims platoon avoided whenever they could. But by two thousand seven where you drove did make a lot of difference. All you could do keep your eye out and hope for the best, our day-to-day for that first deployment was mostly mounted patrols during that time they were just starting to put a lot of the extra armor, on the humvees and stuff without that you're done. Because we, we knew there's a very good chance during any of these patrols. We're going to get attacked now. Is it going to be effective? Is it going to actually Heidi gonna hit one of our vehicles is pretty rare that it was a, you know, a really good attack like that. But I would say at least four. Four out of every ten times we left the gate. We got attacked the one that sticks out in my head the most, you know, that happened to my platoon. I remember the date because it was my birthday is March eight two thousand seven hundred twenty millimeter round but was buried on the side of the road. You know, majority of my time was spent an attorney, I was the second vehicle in the convoy, I was actually looking probably to about three o'clock and the vehicle was at my twelve and the idea went off and the best way, I can describe it as it's just terrifying. Just here. Just hearing that blast and everything your heart beat so hard that everything in front of me was just flashing white. That is just terrifying. It was massive the blast was so significant took aims, a second to realize that it was the first truck that got hit and not his my buddy Alger got to the unit about the same time as me he was up in the. My buddy Weichel. I can't remember if he was the driver in the backseat and staff sergeant Marshall was TC and the blast. Mostly was focused out and not towards the vehicle, which was a blessing, but a chunk of shrapnel it had such force that it punch through the windshield. Mills windshields six to eight inches thick mist the driver's head by probably two inches missed the guy in the back by about the same and miss my buddy, Algiers leg by a couple of inches it when all through the windshield and was stuck in the trunk. And I think that's when it got hit home really hard because that damage was catastrophic to that, windshield alone. Now, had that hit a person is a rat. You have your standard SO p but we kind of modified it ourselves to where we would push through the blast zone. I wanna say it was like push through one hundred meters or whatever and sweep for. Secondary's. So we push through, and then once you push through and realize that you're in the clear, that's when you, you know, evaluate thankfully, in this particular instance, nobody was hurt like I said it was terrifying, but also Zillah rating, you know, 'cause you're like this is it. Often it's impossible to see ID's, but sometimes it is, we hear stories about guys who were certain something wasn't an ID, who would find out later the hard way that it was for aims to privilege and responsibility of being a gun on the front truck can't be over emphasized. It wasn't a lack of trust in his buddy so much as a will to exert a modicum of control over his own life away of fighting back against an enemy. He couldn't see that meant both keeping an eye out for these, but also keeping potential triggerman as far away from the convoy as possible like the stuff they were killing us with, you know, hitting us with and killing us with was all things that they just dug up from that ASAP, or was just laying around. You can strip an old alternator go find around that just buried out there outside to crit, and you got a bomb, I can honestly say that might platoon never got hit by an ID while I was in the lead in the. Turin. There was one instance where I had the previous for sergeant the one that I had doored. I'd first sergeant Volmer in the back and the sun was setting, and it was so low in the horizon, I could see the sun glinting off of the wire. It was stripped, red or orange, copper wire when the sun starts to set if light shines on it's going to reflect you see, you know, this line of light out in the middle of what's sensually dust rocks, and mud and stuff like that is not supposed to be there like it made me feel a very big sense of pride that I could see the light from the sun reflecting on the copper wire of an ID and was able to stop the vehicle before we got up to that point. Call out engineers and e o d and get it destroyed. While I had my first Arjun in there and he's just like holy shit aims. He's like, great is to hear that from a I really looked up to like he realized, I'm up. They're paying attention. To the point righteous, saw tiny glint of copper, probably a good seventy meters in front of us and was able to mitigate that before it Blat like I have no idea what it even was. It could have been massive. It could have been catastrophic. But a lot of times, you don't even know you know, Yoda will come out and blow it up, and they'll be like, yeah, it was just a couple of artillery shells. Sometimes they'll tell you that wasn't the only time that happened. There's five or six different instances. There are some leaders that you'll die for and some leaders that you'll happily forget leadership is something of crap shoot, especially when you're being attached to different units in there, so many moving parts, but just like with any other job, you have good bosses, and bad bosses in the military though, it's not just life and death. It also can affect a person's career. There are so many stories of guys whose only decision whether to reopen or not had to do with the capricious nature of command, and it's more than just whether or not you can get along. It has to do with betting your life on the. Competency of person, you don't necessarily trust. We lost our battery commander. He got promoted so they brought in a west pointer, which I have no problem with West Point. But he wanted to make a name for himself. We'd already been there at the time for at least a good six months really familiar with the we had a pretty good understanding of roads that are very high risk roads that are impassable, you know, historic places where we got attacked. Well, he comes up with this plan. He's like, we need to get them more of a foot presence. We need to communicate with the people and ask them about the insurgency into crit. We need to go door to door. My platoon sergeants like, sir, you don't wanna just on foot randomly walk house to house without an objective. It stupid. Well, he wanted to be able to say that he got some information and he was being proactive. So we get out there, and we'd probably cleared through at this point. Six blocks in the heart of crit-, and I look in front of me, you know, there's some high rise apartments, right there, probably about eleven o'clock. There's a whole marketplace full of people. So let's say get attacked from that area. I can't spray fire over there, because it's all civilians directly in front of us a building had been demolished. So it's like an empty lot. And there's this big mound dirt. That commander is out there with the our first sergeant who also was new to our battery. Well, I go to take a seat real quick. In my sling. See, it's probably a buck twenty. I mean, I'm sweating like crazy. I sat down to white my face. I had grabbed my helmet went to pop my helmet off. And no. Sooner did I sit down than RPG got fired right at my truck and zipped right over the top of my head. I don't know how close it would have been like it may have hit me in the face. If I was still standing up like that's how close it was. But I just remember the first sergeant climbed under my truck. He comes under our truck and won't come out and the battery commander. I don't know where he went. He took off, like he's hiding somewhere after that battery commander and I didn't neither one neither one of them would go out on patrol anymore. You know, everybody was kind of laughing about the RPG, because it completely missed everything, but we had to pull our BC in first Arjun out from under a vehicle because they're just terrified. They had no clue. They didn't know the area. They know idea what they were in for. They thought it was all games is not Ames was coming up on mid tour leave, which he thought was just in the Nick of time, people end up feeling different ways about mid tour leave, but a common thread is the sense of urgency while you're home, the inability to completely relaxed because you feel as if you're ducking out on the people who are counting on you. I came home for mid tour leave and February VO seven I knew we had fifteen I saw at nine months to go, like I said, we had seen so much so many of platoon getting tech. So many times stuff like that, that I it wasn't resigned to the fact that I was going to get killed, but I thought that it was such a good such a good chance of it that I pretty much just drank heavily when I was on mid tour leave. It was great seeing my family and everything. But I pretty much figured that there was a good chance. I was going to killed. So I was drinking a lot, the whole time you're at home. All you keep thinking about is what if something's happened into my guys, and I'm not there like everybody wants to go home and see their family. But I didn't wanna go home until it was time to go home. My big thing was sending emails out to my buddies. You know that we're still over there kind of keeping tabs worrying that I was going to miss something, and I did miss a couple of significant things known of his platoon were hurt during his absence, though. There was at least one significant firefight. His unit also succeeded in capturing the trigger. Man for an unexploded ide-, which is a rare delay. But it isn't as if all the firefights and ideas were expended during his absence. There was still plenty of dangerous encounters ahead. The next one for aims would take place on the military bypass in the middle of the night with without night vision. It's unlikely Angwin would have seen the ID before it went off. I just know we were taken that military bypass. And this wasn't a raid, or anything like that, this particular night, just happened to be a presence patrol. It was to either one hundred ten or one hundred twenty millimeter mortars were buried on the shoulder of the road. I was facing the rear and I had my head up just a little bit above the pope glass and was leaning over when it went off. I it's really weird. How artillery shells will explode had that thing been more focused at my vehicle. I don't think I'd be talking to you today, but the concussion the blast itself actually knocked me down into the vehicle down by. My platoon sergeants feet in the TC, and it took me took me a good couple of seconds to even realize where I even was we haven't first platoon come out to help us, they get out there to escort us back. You know, we decide not to take the rest of the military bypass, but to take that main drag there's just this big open area in the middle of the city, we start taking fire from that direction. So I'm still in the turt- and everything who else are we gonna put in there? You got my platoon sergeant in the T C you got my buddy siennas drive in and we got the medic in the back, there was nobody else in the other seat in the back we we're being led by first platoon. And I'm in the very back again. But I just see first platoon open up like they're taking fire. I can I like I said had great night vision and everything when the ID went off at turn my night vision off, like that's how hard the concussion was. But all had to do with flip the, the power button, you know the. Toggle turn them back on. And I, I see first platoon just lighting this house to shit because there's a guy on the roof. But the thing is, when it's hot like that in the summer times, people will when they're poor will sleep on their roof. Well, I can see the muzzle flashes of the guy actually shooting at us, like I don't know what the hell I platoon was doing. But they were literally killing somebody's house. It's important to remember that only minutes past so far, but the night was fraught and only getting more intense, an MP squad had been to the scene before first platoon but had left without providing escort for his part, anes it suffered a significant concussion. But in spite of having his truck blown up and his bell rung, he was still able to think an act, clearly enough to make a difference and yelled to the truck in front of us because we stopped, and I yelled up to my buddy Davis Davis laser. Once again is a guy Haydn by like a bird. Term, and there's two of them, and I could just see him fucking shooting, and I lit them up with the infrared, so they can't see and mean Davis. Just rip these guys up and first platoon. Gets on the Mike. They're like, what are you guys shooting of, we're going to go take this, this house, or whatever? And like I can physically see were my bullets are hitting, these guys were on, like a like a dirt, berm almost in an alleyway between two houses, I platoons like shooting the house on I'd say, like my two o'clock or whatever. Well, this enemy was actually at, like, four o'clock. You know what I mean, I hit the house right there beside him. And I'm walking down. They have like a bar light like a fluorescent light on the front of their house. I saw the bullets hit that and shattered that out and I walked down in, I could physically see the guy I hit like no fact I hit him first between, like, okay, we're going to go and take this house. So we actually have to follow them through this job. Giant open space in the middle of the city. Like we just got hit we just got attacked. And now you guys are going to try to assault this house. So we pull up to this alley, and I'm like, hey, smoke. The guys we engaged. They were right here, whatever. And he's like, let's go and pull the truck up and you could see the blood and drag marks going around the corner. So we decided to just go and pull our truck up more, and what it looked like to us is the second guy grabbed his buddy drum around the corner into a vehicle. We ended up getting a call later from the hospital asking, if we had engaged anybody and Adwa that night, and we're like, yeah, we give them the details and they said the guy died from massive trauma to the neck and chest. I up having a headache from that, that lasted for several days but beyond that, that particular night was wild because it's the only time I know for a fact that I actually shot anyone as they began to prepare to close down. The deployment aims is really happy to be headed home. He was ready for the rest and ready to spend some quality time with his family. But the transition wasn't as easy as he had hoped. And by the time he was truly settled it would be time to return to Iraq. 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Go to better help dot com slash war. Simply fill out a questionnaire to hell. Them better. Assess your needs, and then get mashed with a counselor, you'll love, that's better help dot com slash war. The antecedent station of actually being home. Must be phenomenal. Once you off the ground. And the Middle East is behind you. There's nothing left to do. But wait and think about how nice it will be finally see your family. I just remember the worst thing about it was they hold you in a formation out there on the flight line make everybody all pretty you got your nice. Maroon beret, you know, the one that you haven't touched since you got on the bird to fly to Iraq. And you gotta listen to some officer, talk and tell you how proud he isn't. It's like I appreciate that, sir. But like I can glance out of the corner. My I see my wife holding my daughter. You know, my mother and father or standing over there, and you're torturing us. Torture them with your words. Just let us go. My parents came down, my stepdad, and my mom. I think the biggest trip though was I could see my parents and my wife right there and a little girl holding. Sign that said welcome home troops on it. And I didn't even realize that, that's my daughter, you know, she so big I yeah, I had saw in February. But this was a it was, but in probably would have been November, December, you know, by this point. So it's almost another year later. So I see this little girl, you know, and I'm like, wow, that's, that's my daughter. So it was a great experience to finally just be home and never thought I'd miss North Carolina so much. So the toughest thing about that year at home was, how long it took the family to reorganize and gel, Danielle was used to running the house paying the bills making all the decisions has daughter, who has asked burgers also was used to things running a certain way in the Ames home aim said it only took a month or so for his family to find its regular groove, which would have been fine if he didn't have another deployment ahead. He was slated to leave in early December two thousand. Eight his son was born in November and aims left weeks. Later knowing that he would miss another set of first steps. And first words if there was any upside at all it was that Baghdad was not at War, I felt a lot better going into this one. Then I did about the first one just because I had that experience and now I also know that I got guys that are looking to me as opposed to me, be in the one just looking up. The surge happened on my first deployment and most of the enemies were being pushed out of places like Baghdad and they would, you know, move north move, south while to cry was the next big city Samara, and then to crit while Baghdad and Samara were both getting heavily patrolled. So a lot of those enemies pushed up to Admiral to crit beigey places like that where we had a lot less presence, the populace was shocked. Because when you look at Baghdad, especially the karate neighborhood I always said it's like Las Vegas, you got the drinking the strippers. The casinos and all that will alcohol pornography. All that's legal in Iraq. But in this part of Baghdad you would see liquor stores on the street. You'd see women wear normal skirts and dresses and close. You'd see dudes out there going club and stuff like that. So that already was a night and day difference. But the people were shocked that we were doing three sometimes five foot patrols a day out of our little base. And we'd patrol the peninsula in these people couldn't believe that we were on foot. They said, well, we haven't had anybody walk, our neighborhood the way you guys do a good two or three years. I was never in bad shape on either deployment, but I was in damn good shape on this one, the tradeoff for doing all this walking in a mostly pacified Baghdad was that this tour was much less. Connectik snipers were more of a problem than ideas and soldiers were working a little more closely with the Iraqi police, which could be dicey, plus as an NCO Ames was in a position to help new privates. Get a feel. For what it's like to be on patrol in Iraq. We had this huge presence. It's almost like we were so aggressive and use to dealing with so much more that whenever any little thing would pop off. We would handle it so aggressive in, well, that's almost like the enemy stopped testing us and moved out of our neighborhood. I don't wanna sound cocky, but that's literally what was going on. We got this call that an ID detonated on Saint street. And there was no specific targeting this random idea and the street already. This sounds, the sounds kind of jacked up like what's going on? So we get there. I got my platoon. Sergeant my platoon leader himself. He was gone. We had just gotten this new guy, another of a belief is a West Point guy. But he had only been in offices. Pretty sweet guy but very clueless. Like had no idea. What's going on kind of thing he'd only been with us like a week, we had a thirteen FOX on f. Oh, with us named uncle burger. He'd only been with us. Maybe a week or two. We see that an idea had went off. It's like a big giant diesel tank in the middle of the street. And there's this diesel leaking out of all into the street, there's a puncture in the bottom. We're kind of they're doing like a blast analysis trying to figure it out, and I'm looking, and I tell my platoon sergeant. I'm like smoke. I'm like, why did somebody make this bomb at of duct tape and homemade explosives? It's not right. And then I found a big hunk of cast iron pipe and it's what they had taped to that bundle and put it under this tank thinking, it was going to create an explosion. I'm like, we need to get out of here like this isn't right? He's like, here's nothing going on asaid smoke. Something's not right as we gotta get outta here. I'm like this feels feels like they were trying to draw us out here. I'm like this is obviously a setup to make a big explosion to get first responders. I'm like, we gotta go. I'm like the all the like you notice. That the Iraqi police that usually are in this area, have a very big standoff at this point. Like they're very far away from us. According to our maps, they're supposed to be here about one hundred meters closer on both sides. I'm talking to Dunkelberg, asking him. I'm like, hey, you're new, if you were an enemy and you're trying to attack us right now where would you be just kind of given telling him to look around, and I tell my platoon sergeant? I'm like smoke. I'm like, where are the civilians I'm like, we gotta go and I'll quote him. He said, these mother fuckers ain't gonna do shit, and I go to look over at my platoon sergeant, and he's standing there with the platoon leader. And I hear this, the sloughed like like a snap. And I see blood spread of his face. The show was almost like acuse, ending everyone's springing into action, given that they had a relatively green platoon commander. And with smoking capacitators Ames was going to have to step up as things began to deteriorate and I instantly know like he just got shot. But I in my brain, I'm like, what was that? Nap sound well, me and dunk or right over here by this abandoned Iraqi police truck all they had was like a gun in there that he didn't even have a gun. He was just kinda standing in there. You could tell he was a low level guy. All his guys were gone. He's just like standing in this truck. And I saw the he dropped immediately. I grabbed dunk by the back of his kid through him behind the truck RTP is afar. Guys are wounded the truck with the medic is going to pull up and block them from whatever direction the fires coming from because it's an armored vehicle. I yell for them to come up and yell and sniper. I glance in the back of the truck like China. Look over and see how my platoon sergeants do. And see if I can crawl over and grab him the look on. Never forget the look on this Iraqi policeman's face like they don't like to wear their body armor. He had pulled it over him like a blanket and his face is like something out of a horror movie like you could tell he just he knew this was he didn't know this is going to happen. But somebody did you know what I mean? Like they. They knew. And they kind of left him there as bait is terrible, so glance over the truck and yell smoke. The trucks, pulling up he stands up and runs straight over to the truck a mind you just took a bullet to the face. I never saw the platoon leader so fraud. I know he shot Chuck pulls around smoke gets into it, and everything. And I run around open my door. We all get in the truck. They start bandaging up my platoon sergeants face. You know, he's a couple of vehicles in front of me that Iraqi guy still laying in the bed of the truck like covered up. And I look up in the TC in the peels, not there. Now I know he didn't get shot I when I looked over in my platoon sergeant had got up and ran the peel was not there. So I assumed he had already went back to the vehicle as you know, while I was taking cover. No, man. This guy had climbed like under the truck, right? We didn't see him. Nobody knew. And I start hearing this rattling. I'm like, where's the peo- the mind you? All happened in less than a minute. And I hear this rattling sound my peel had low, crawled from under that truck all the way her to our truck. And he's on the ground mind, you, he crawled towards the sniper fire, and that's that sound is his hands. Smacking the door handle trying to get in. I literally had to jump over an open his door so he could get in and they start calling upon the radio for like a sit rip. What happened was the peel locked up and he's got his mic on like in his hand and everything, and they're calling, and he's not answering. We're not moving. We're just sitting there waiting for this dude to give some orders and he froze. Got smoke back to the hospital and plenty of time and as far as aims knows, hey, still in service Ames's Intel ever their characteristics beyond that occasion, physical prowess that make a person fit for a career in the military, the most critical one is likely the ability to deal with inconsistent leadership for so many soldiers that final decision to get out has to do with the real. Nation that they can't spend the next twenty years. Navigating personality clashes as it happened, though, aims didn't have to eat ES out he'd been serving with a bad back since his first tour, and when he got back home from his second. He had a checked out and ended up being med boarded I guess my happy ending in the hallway. This all went down is like I said majority of my buddies all came home. I don't really dwell on a lot of the a lot of the negative. You know, some people say that if you deployed your hero or, or you're not a hero or you know it's all subjective. I just I honestly do feel proud about what I did. My big thing is. I'm just glad to be able to say I'm still here. I feel like I actually did my part I feel my father would be proud. I feel that my family's proud no matter what anybody says, I'm just glad to have been able to say, I did my part. I did it the best. I could. I'm still here. I'm still married. You know that's to me. You know. That's that's great. That's fantastic. I'm just I'm really glad to be able to say that. I'm I'm here. Right now, finding a way to be happy to be here having a support network in a loving family, a sense that you served with honor can be everything. It's small thing, but it's critical and can't be repeated enough for years. Daniel Ames was defined mostly by his service. But learning to define yourself on your own terms to understand your part in the world as a collection of attitudes tied to a broad experience doesn't diminish your service. It only makes Cheinal the brighter. 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"Crimson trace now offers a complete line of electronic sites ranging from fixed magnification battle site to reflect sites with the latest power management features purpose is built in versatile find yours at Crimson trace dot com today on Tom. GRESHAM's gun talk a decade. After the McDonald's case the Supreme Court finally agreed to hear another gun rights JAS. Tom Discusses the oral arguments and complications in New York state rifle and Pistol Association versus New York City Battle plus a comprehensive training program and the push for sanctuary cities in Virginia among the slew of anti the Second Amendment Bills Getting the state legislature and is always. Call us at eight six six. Talk Gun with your comments questions and rage reports that now Algiers Sunday. Through if you're hearing this why Sunday after eight. You're you're listening to it some other time. I don't know what day it is you'll have to check yourself. I'm Tom Gresham. We're going to be having some fun today. Talk about some serious stuff as well as having fun. We have three plus hours of talk about guns and safety responsibility and shooting at scopes and optics and handguns and rifles and shotguns and AMMO and safe gun gun storage and obviously we will talk gun rights second amendment a lot of things going on right now with that and and Ed frankly I will discuss something. I haven't talked much about here in the past but I think it's time to talk about it. It's how I think in some ways I wanNA tempted to kill the Lilly and say we're not doing as well as we could. That's not fair. I think in many ways. We're actually losing and I will tell you why. I think that isn't what we're doing and what we need to do about that as we go forward if you'd like to be a part of the madness here of course as always we're looking for your stories. We call him range reports you out to the range have been doing some shooting. You bought a new gun. Tell us what you've been up to eight six six talk gun. We'll certainly get you in here. I can't believe it's been a week since I was in Washington DC. I went to the United States Supreme Court last Monday. I sat there and heard this case argued the New York state rifle and pistol association versus the city of New York. It's kind of a messy case. That's a little bit hard to describe to explain to people. But in essence the the city of New York prohibits did people from leaving the city with their legal guns fast forward it got it. I was challenged appeal. Appeal Appeal Appeal to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court says okay. Yeah we'll hear that at that point. New York State does Lucy with the football and says well. We're we're going to repeal the law see. There's nothing to see here never mind. We don't want a negative decision. We don't want a precedent set so the question is is the Supreme Court Art Going to let New York play them that way and that was pretty much what the arguments were about more really honestly more. So than even the merits of the case. We might no one a week or two. Whether they're going to take the case on the merits that is moot or not if they do take it could easily be June before we hear what the decision engineers. It's been a decade. Since we had Heller and McDonald decisions. The Supreme Court has ducked dodged. But now that we have a new makeup on the Supreme Court. Maybe we'll get something at least we're hopeful. Tell you what somebody who knows a lot about that has been following that and a lot of other things joins us right now. Our good friend Cam Edward Tower. You can I have a great town on are you. I'm accent of course a lot of people don't you from Your Cam and company back within our news and such Not doing it in our news anymore but you are out there in front of people on a daily basis basis with gun rights information. Telomere up to. That's right so I'm now the editor Jerry NARMS DOT COM and we're also doing daily bearing Arms Cameron Company. You can find it on Youtube you too if you Subscribed to townhall media We're doing Monday through Friday and Getting you know trying to do exactly what you do each and every week here just keep folks informed about everything that's going on because it is a crazy busy time when it comes right to bear arms and there we have Mr moderate. His announced his gun control scheme. That would be Mike. Mike forming those Michael but now he's just good old folks like us so he's Mike Bloomberg right. Yeah exactly and and you're right You know his his plan. I guess passes for moderation because he did not outright coffee confiscation of firearms but with his licensing scheme and everything else. you know there. There are tens of billions of legal gun owners who would I believe the script of the right to give her arm since Bloomberg had his way. You've been following this for years. What would it be fair to say way? I believe that to a very large extent. The passage of universal background check laws and red flag laws to stay for state interstate are directly attributable to Michael Bloomberg. Exactly Right You know the gun control movement was not well funded. It was somewhat fractured and then Bloomberg came along and decided that he was going to really build an organization. That AH gun could've had never really had before and you look at what every town for Gun. Safety and moms demand action is able to do where it used to be. Five years ago Tom. When there was a gun bill that was up legislative committee? You can expect a couple of dozen gun owners there and maybe one or two gun control activists now There's you know. Generally an equal a number of gun owners and MOMS demand action volunteers wearing their red shirts I think that Bloomberg has been a lot of time a lot of money and he's a smart guy and ended and yeah we are seeing the impact of his anti gun machinations right now on La books you know from coast to coast and you know you mentioned. He's a smart guy. He's poured money into and a lot of what has happened. And this is the part. I think that people haven't quite understood on our side is that he has built a huge organization a national national organization that he can mobilize or they don't think he's running this deal but he has hired very smart people because he can hire them away from literally anywhere he has that much money eighty and they had this organization which Oh yeah by the way now works effectively for somebody who's running for president of the United States. They have a national organization. Ready to go exactly And I know that you know she had to watch the MOMS read action folks have been very careful to say. Look you know. We're we're not proxies for the Bloomberg campaign and in some cases yeah. I think that's right. You've actually seen some gun control advocates. Who you know gotten on board the Bloomberg campaign but they do have that mailing list And they're renting Senate from Demand Action they as you say can hire staffers from virtually every campaign. They've already Cherry picks while a Harris's staffers now that her campaign is no the war. So you know gun. Owners cannot underestimate this guy he is pulling down five six percent which is not great But he's taking actually if you look at the polls it looks like he's taken support from people like Elizabeth Warren and you know with with an unlimited amount of campaign funds on the Bloomberg. You know look you can be a really serious candidate. I think he's going to be a six. Six percent is not bad for guys only being in the race for three weeks it hasn't appeared on any of the debates. Exactly Right And you know. He is flooding the airwaves. He's been you know five hundred thousand dollars in places like Oklahoma Putting his campaign message out there. So He's you know he says he's not competing in the early primary states but He is running a presidential campaign. He's got his plan in place and he believes that he can go to the convention. Absolutely tell you what. Let me take a quick break because I want to have some time on the backside here I want to talk about about this movement. That's taking place that some people are aware of but may not actually understand the force of it we're talking about the sanctuary movement the Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement. That's taking place in Virginia. It's like Frankish like nothing I've ever seen in in the middle. We're talking with Cam Edwards. We'll be right back with more. What gun talk? 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So we had our elections November second and for the first time in twenty-six years anti-gun politicians are now in complete control Virginia's legislature and executive And since then we have seen nearly half half of the counties in the State of Virginia. Tom Declare themselves to be Second Amendment Sanctuaries. They've either pass resolutions. Or in a couple of cases they pay a past actual ordinances. This is name that no county funds will be spent to enforce unconstitutional gun control laws and not only are we. Seeing County Board of supervisors passed these resolutions. Lucians we're seeing more and more county sheriff's and we're starting to see Commonwealth's attorneys. The local prosecutors are also take that very same stand and say that they will not be enforcing using any unconstitutional gun grabs now. This is in reaction to the flood of gun control laws that have been put into the legislature because these he's been introduced over the years they've been stopped because the legislature was Was Republican and the governor said well but if it comes to me I'll certainly sign any gun control all you put me. And now the Democrats are in charge. They're saying okay here's the wishlist. Looks like either the best of or if you're on our side the worst of what we see in California and Massachusetts and other states like that. That's exactly right. They're not you know nibbling at the edges. I've had gun owner. Say well well you know I mean Gosh. It's pretty close in the state Senate you know. Don't you think maybe that might force them to moderate no no no They believe that this is again. A once in a generation opportunity entity to advance their agenda Virginia and they are going all out Thompson Adult Sixteen which is authored by the incoming. Majority leader is a sweeping semi auto ban that bans the possession the current possession of legally own rifles. Now there is no you know Beta rourke style compensated confiscation plan You you own this rifle. You're not allowed to possess it. If this law goes into effect there are bills that would strip parents. Is there a thorny to decide when their minor children are old enough to handle a fire without direct adult supervision. Even what we're talking about hunting or self defense there's You know universal background check laws return of one got a month Red Flag Laws I. It's it's awful. There's actually one that if I read it correctly could make illegal to go get firearms training. That is a Senate bill sixty four and you know it's a bad bill But the portion of the law that you're talking about is actually already been ineffective in Virginia Kanye and this is designed as a bill that is Makes it illegal to train anybody for the purposes of Civil Insurrection Direction and so that laws already been on the books. What's new is a a section that prohibits the carrying affiars in public For the purposes services of this order and so I think the concern there is that anti gun. Politicians are going to look at this and say okay. Well you're open carry March Even your second movement rally where people are carrying that is designed to You know intimidate people or it is designed to promote civil insurrection. it it could. They could use that to crack down on your public assemblies lawful public assemblies I'm less concerned about them. Trying to crack down on on firearms training as a result of that bill because that language has already been in there but you know again given the anti got attitudes that are now in charge. The state honestly knows what's going to happen all right. But here's what I want you to discuss. Because we talked about this before we went to go where traditionally gun owners kind one of Shrug and say let the NRA handle it. It's all going to be okay. A few people would show up and now describe what's going on at the city council meetings at these various meetings around the state where they're discussing these sanctuary loss again like you say. It's like nothing that I've ever seen before Shenandoah she hadn't a county Virginia had over a thousand people show up for their county's board of Supervisors meeting more than fifteen hundred. People showed up in Virginia Beach. You know these tiny rural counties. I was in a place called duplin county town which is about thirty miles north of Richmond. One night last week thousand people in the entire county and the meeting room was full. The the hallways were full. The overflow meeting rooms. They had set up. We're jam packed. People were outside listening on their smartphones. So this board of supervisors meetings And they're there for one reason only to see this resolution passed because they you know. This is a defensive measure and I don't think anybody believes that If you live in a second sanctuary county pretty then that all of your troubles are over But the gun owners that I've talked to say we want to send a message to Richmond that you know we want to listen into our rights are important to us and they're not going to be taken from US and again you know from the eastern shore of Virginia to the Appalachian Mountains and southwest part of the date county after county after county is adopting this resolution. And I can tell you. I mean I've talked to a couple of gun control advocates very quietly. And they're freaking out about what's happening here. This is not what they expected gutters reaction would be well. You can understand because we've never reacted that way before we've never shown up in those kind of numbers we frankly we have been complacent and we haven't gotten mad and I keep telling people we have to to get mad before we will take action because there's nothing else is going to motivate people and what you're seeing people who are both frightened and angry and they show up and you get a city council will or a county commission where you know they may have had twenty or twenty five people show up for a contentious issue on sewage at some point and all of a sudden they have a thousand zone are fifteen hundred people trying to get into a room that will hold two hundred people and everybody's outside and they've shut down the parking lots and the police are out there trying to keep control of everything not not that we're rowdy is just there's so many people and these people these elected officials have no idea what to do with this absolutely and and for the most part I I think the The county supervisors around the state have been pretty supportive. That the places where you would anticipate resistance. We've seen in northern Virginia Fairfax County. Virginia Pity Council. But but honestly I mean I think this movement is really been embraced by a lot of folks in the state obviously the gun control advocates. They're pushing back there saying that. I think there was one columnist for the Richmond. Times dispatch this week. That compared gun owners to to slave owners And try to make the comparison to the the terrified right if the eighteen thirties and Asian. But what's fascinating me. Tom Is that gun. Control advocates have been doing exactly this for years Pittsburgh Mayor Bill peduto passing local gun control ordinances in violation of state farms. Preemption Law billings Montana City Council passing universal background checks even though the state has farmers screams law. So we've seen gun uncontrolled advocates. Decide that they're going to ignore a state law and they're gonNA pass their own local gun control ordinances and now they're getting upset with guns and saying. Hey you know what yeah. I don't think we're GONNA pass. We're GONNA enforce your unconstitutional laws. Actually saw there was a sheriff who said he's going to deputise two thousand people South County. It's based out. Just make everybody a deputy. We'll start from that. I think that's the sheriff sheriff. culpepper adding I need to talk to and local share so my county is actually voting tomorrow night on its sanctuary resolution. I will be there. I'll be speaking And you know one of the local convenience needed stores actually has a message on their signboard. Protect your gun rights. Show for the Board of Supervisors meeting Monday night six PM so the word is getting out. Not just from groups like Virginia Citizens Defense League but this is really neighbor to neighbor this. Is You know the folks at your local stores who are spreading the word. And that's something else that's really different years. This is a really hyper local grassroots campaign that is unique to each individual county in the state of Virginia. That's taking place take started this. We owe you make a good point. This is not a national organization driving this. Yes there is the Virginia Citizens Defense League Phillips going to be on with us in a little while but but this is not the NRA or the second foundation or any other group. These are citizens who've said WHOA. Whoa no not here not now and I want to touch on? It's up to your camp people. The gun control people and more especially the people in the middle or these county supervisors who are trying to figure out what's going on. I try to explain it to him and they were look. Imagine if you said we are going to pass. Ordinances allows us to ban any books that we don't like. If you are in possession of that book you would be Thelen you would push back on that and they would go yeah rightly so that would be crazy and tell them. Here's what you're not getting. Is that those of us who support the Second Amendment view it to be on exactly the same level as the first amendment anything. You would say you can't do the First Amendment we say. Then you can't do it to the the second amendment guys exactly right and And and you know unfortunately Again these lawmakers Virginia. They don't see our all right to keep her arms as a real right And so we've got bill after bill. That's been refiled. Turns out right into a privilege and again that's why you're seeing the reaction that you are From people who are standing up there fighting for their rights. They're fighting for the rights of their kids. They're worried and some cases less about themselves. But but what happens a generation from now you know if there's not if we don't take a stand and fight right now all right short answer here. Do you see this kind of intensity. This kind of feeling waiting in all over the country for gun rights activists just be ready for the switch to be flipped. I I do I really do. And you know we've got the Twenty twenty election. That's going to be kicking off into high gear very soon. We started talking about Michael Bloomberg and yeah. I think that this is a this. Emily has the potential to be a national little movement. And I think the energy is there naturally right now and it and it better be because again. This fight is coming no matter where you live Kgo Kim ever check it out very arms dot Com camp as always thank you so much. Thank you buddy talking to you take care. Yeah Virginia. Here's question comes to your place Are you willing to show. What are we finally willing to show up attack? You're thinking what a minute. We'll talk somebody who who did show up at the Supreme Court outside there with all all of the Bloomberg protested. We'll have that news for you when we come back. I look back Tom. Gresham here gun talk. If you want to join us this eight six talk gun or just call Tom. Talk Gun or check us out. GO TO GUN TALK DOT COM sign up for the truth squad. Newsletter we send in that out once a week basically right things and they're kind of my thoughts and I'll be sharing some about this New York state rifle and Pistol Association case and of course actually find out more about it. I'll fill you in on that when I showed up at the Supreme Court building a week ago tomorrow Monday Eight o'clock the morning it's cold. It's rainy it's nasty. It's thirty nine to forty degrees and the Bloomberg paid. Protesters are setting up their systems. They've got their organized group. They have their agenda. They have their paid speakers. who were there they brought in and I'm looking around going where guys look over in the corner? Oh they are. It's the Patriot. Pick guys so I went over and we did a little live video on our facebook page facebook page there but I wanted to get one of them. I'm in here to talk about what that was like and what was happening there so Paul. Brockman joins US right now from Patriot picket. Hey Paul how are you. Hey Tom how great thanks for having make you bet last money wasn't it. It was it was cold and rainy. It was a pretty typical Monday morning in the swamp in this Wa want all right first of all before we do anything else tell people what Patriot pick it is. Who are you guys? And what do you do the Patriot pick it. We call ourselves a second second amendment demonstration group. We don't protest we like to bring We like to to to defend this the second amendment with our size and our our our actions actions and we started out about twenty sixteen The General Assembly in our home state of Maryland. WE'RE BASED OUT NAPOLI Maryland We just got tired of all these control laws so Patriot pick founder. My Buddy Jeff Holbert and his brother Kevin Said you know what we're tired of being the good guys dot in our suits going to talk to these guys is. We're GONNA paint up some signs doing old fashioned. Pick it right out on the street further legislative offices and when they cross the street doing to the State House they're gonNA see. CD signs smacking him in the face so that we started. And that's kind of expanded out to We've taken it out to Virginia obviously in Pennsylvania and down in DC A lot. So what you saw last Monday. Of course what we do all the time. It's kind of that thing I've been talking about for a long time now telling the people look you have to show up because if you don't show up then the other voice is only heard something that happened you may not know about after. I did my interview with Patriot picket. I went inside Hi Donna. I'm here the whole case but I'm in the press room and I'm talking to a guy from Fox there and after the case is heard and we're talking he said world do you know Oh you know. Is there a pro gun group here because you got this other guys out there. You know. There's a small group out there. He said this I thought it was interesting. He said you know usually I usually. There's nobody from the pro gun side here but the anti-gun guys are always here and I'm listening to what I'm hearing. Actually say is the reason. Listen that we showed these guys anti all the time just because they're the ones that are always there and it sounds to me like what you're saying is we gotta be there. Oh absolutely and we tell people all the time. It's like as much as you want to sit home and Gripe and write letters and send emails. Nobody there's GonNa Call Joe Blow from a gun for them and ask them their opinion if you're not out on the street if you're not out in their face and you're not out there taking up some of the sidewalk space baseman. Anti get your best job. Let me ask you this and I get I get this pushback all the time. Same thing all the time. It's almost like with this smug condescending onto sending thing that our people say well you know those of us on our side. We all have jobs. We have to go to work. We can't be out there. They're getting paid. Hey to do that blah blah blah. What's your I know? You hear the same thing I do right. Oh we hear it all the time and I will tell you that out of the probably fifteen senior. So they're all but three of them are at work fulltime. We have three Seasons Patriot picket veterans. Who who are retired and the rest of them? I mean I'm self employed contractor alert. There yeah absolutely absolutely other costuming to be there certainly did. But it's worth it all saying I like was you know if you're not at the table you are. What is being served if this is one of those those deals? If you're not there you simply do not exist in. It's one of the reasons. Let me throw this out and get your thoughts. I think it's one of the reasons that the general public public Tim's to think that gun control is popular and reasonable. People are for something these reasonable controls because all they ever see is the moms this demand and the everytown paid groups out there and we're not there it. What are they left to to think? That's all they ever see. Well you're you're absolutely right and they and they get these numbers You know we some guy subscribed to the moms demand and every town and groups text text alerts and we were getting alerts a week and a half in advance then. Hey Brian you know. Sign up for the bus. It's coming down from Baltimore and then when we actually interview view some of these people like we were doing. I was doing it out on these bad. Can you. Can you just tell me a little bit. Your thoughts about the cases being heard and to a person either told us they couldn't talk to us about it because the the everytown have told them not to or they just didn't know they were just there to get a free hat some doughnuts and coffee. They had no idea what was happening inside. But the NRA's bad orange man is bad and that's why they're there. They literally and I WANNA make this point the protesters who are in favor of gun control this anti Second Amendment protesters. There's literally to the very last. One did not know the name of the case that was being heard. They didn't know what the subject matter was. That was being being heard before the Supreme Court. They just knew it was a gun thing and so they were given science. Hold up and what they were doing was really against the NRA when the NRA was really not a factor in this. I think that was not what was the biggest gust. I know it was hilarious when you when you tell them that when they would inevitably if they actually talked you at all they whenever they would bring bring up the boogeyman you the big bad. NRA and how it's evil and it's the cause of everything from Ginger by La Traffic. And when you tell them well this case really isn't about the NRA has look interface. Like you know what I saw. I got nothing turned away. Yeah I don't know what to do. They don't Oh have that thing so I mean basically what I'm hearing yours that Patriot pick it. Is I group that encourages people to show up. Because if we don't show up then somebody else will determine what is our fate and that whole deal and I look I have made people mad now and I'm okay with that people on our side because they say well you know we jobs. I say you know what get over yourself. You're not that important show up either show up or shut up. You can take time off. You can find a way because if you don't then you're given up on the second amendment. Oh absolutely you you know we call we call people like that side monkeys. They WANNA THEY WANNA cheer for the sidelines but nobody on the sidelines. Everyone the game we taking a day off work take vacation. You know. This stuff is important to you. If you don't want your kids to live in slavery this kind of thing that you gotta gotta be out in a tent. Hey Paul how found out more about Patriot. Picking what you guys are doing. You can find us on Facebook at e Patriot picket or on the web at Patriot. Picket dot org very good. Paul Brock. Thank you so much. Thanks for being there. I really appreciate your time. Thank you you bet you take care. Well there it is show up. You know what there's no other there's no or you just got to show up. We gotTA show up in more numbers now. The question I'm GonNa ask you is. 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Their regular room was packed. It was packed out outside. Now it wasn't on the agenda for vote. They move the meeting to this coming up Wednesday and a school gymnasium. Holy Cow And Tom this is this is a ground swell. I mean there and you'll hear this from Philip there. The TAZEWELL Board of supervisors they're forming militia and the sheriff in culpeper said he's going to do background checks if these things pass. He'll deputize appetizers everybody. Who passes so that they can keep their guns? Let me ask you a question if this was not on the agenda. How did you hear about How people finding out about this? Well I I stay informed all the time and you know when when the Democrats took the House and the Senate we knew it was coming and so in Virginia thank goodness it's part time government. They pre file their the bills and then they go through their process but were all the pre filing was happening. We knew what was going to happen. Capri filed the quote Unquote Assault Weapons Ban and the high capacity magazine Ban and all their definitions and universal background checks. And everything else right. He was coming. And once I tell you what once I think it was Campbell County right outside Lynchburg when they declared themselves the Second Amendment Sanctuary. I contacted a friend of mine on the school board and he went hunting with with one of the guys on the Board of Supervisors and the ball just started rolling and it was just like a domino effect county after county after county and all. These people showed up at the meeting last Wednesday at four o'clock and it wasn't on the agenda and the board said we need to hear public public comments on this and they just they went through their quick business and then the rest settle was public comments. Now I know that the VCD L. is working on this us but it is my impression not being in Virginia but from looking at out here that this is not heavily organized. This is just people waking up and paying attention. Collect and I gotTa tell you there's a lot of people the rest of the country are saying what God if you people would have woken up ahead of time. You could have defeated everybody in the election. You wouldn't have this problem. Well that's absolutely true. I mean if if you showing up on November the fifth wouldn't have this problem it is fascinating tasting. And if you would jim as you go to the subsequent meetings give us a call back and give us a report on what's going on because I think there's something very special going on Jim. Thank you for the call. I really appreciate that. It's it's good to get that you know on the ground report if you're in Virginia. If you're seeing what's going on there let me know give me a holler eight six six gun also cam in Houston. Don't WANNA wear. I'm going to get to you. We do have room if you would like to offer your thoughts have. We finally reached the time. When we're going to get some of our people off their duffs and show up? Are you willing. Are you ready when you will. You take a day off of work to do this to say the Second Amendment to save your country to make it safer and more free for your children and your grandchildren eight six six talk gun. I'm I'm just a few minutes. We're GONNA be talking about a shooting range. The interesting thing is put together a whole series of training classes and lump them all together and I think we hear it. You're gonNA think wow I would love to do something like that and if you have a shooting range or a gun store something somewhere you may WanNa look at that. We we do that here fascinating. What's going on out there? We're talking about this movement right now in Virginia the Sanctuary City Sanctuary County movement. Where they're saying? Okay you guys go ahead and pass all these constitutional gun laws. We're going to be a sanctuary county. We're not GONNA enforce those laws because they are anticipating watching and there's no stopping stopping it. Virginia is going to pass a whole raft of horrible gun control laws now that they have control the Democrats have control of the House. The Senate and the executive are the governor's mansion so we'll see what happens. We'll keep you posted on that Kim's in Houston line four four with a thought on that can't welcome to gun talk. Hi Tom Thanks for taking my call. You read just have equipment and I'm about to run into meetings so cut it short but at first I wanted to say I'm greatly appreciative of the grassroots effort to take back local control and their communities. It's absolutely the way we have to go. Oh can we should be looking to our states to do the same thing. Of course some of us have been hijacked by the left and some US like Texas even have Republicans office who have turned their heads the other way at what the state's world and rights and responsibilities are to their people. Uh One of the ways we're dealing with that in Texas is to look toward The march primary and replace our Senator John John Cornyn who has taken it upon himself to do outreach and compromise on just about every level of personal issue that takes place in our house moves including gun control and his recent outreach to Baidoa work and the way we're dealing with that as to look toward his challenger in the March primary stovall and I would encourage all your Texans supporters to check out Texans for STOVALL DOT COM and learn. What joins plan is to bring back our rights to our state but back from the federal overreach? 'cause Texas is very much in play and endanger offs shifting to purple and maybe even blues. And we're all keeping an eye on that so you gotta be fighting that on the ground right there. Yes sir. Absolutely so I I asked everyone who cares about their rights and the futures of their families to protect themselves. Please check out Dwayne stovall all right appreciate it. Kim Thank you for the call. Yeah Texas this is a big state people say well Texas Texas come on. It's the wet. No well Texas is also Dallas and Houston and San Antonio and Austin in our ass we like to say Berkeley in Texas somewhat isn't it. Their motto is Keep Austin Weird kind of like Portland. It's kind of a Portland. Ish feel there with a lot of the tech companies there and shifting it is absolutely shifting in Texas is a big state yet but you know what it's like a lot of these other states I mean I'll guarantee you. It doesn't matter what state you're in. There are two to four media markets that actually elite control the numbers and if a politician wins those areas. The partition can win. And that's what's taking place there where I mentioned several weeks ago. An idea that we came up here when you want to get people to show up gun rights people show up somewhere. You offer them this. Everybody shows up. We're going to put your name in a hat and we're GONNA pull names out and we're gonNA give away three guns. You gotTA show up. You've got to be there to enter and maybe help bus a man maybe provide transportation. And I guarantee you you can get somebody to donate guns whether it's a gun store or just individuals and say yeah. I got some guns here. I don't need now. Donate those people will show up just an idea to think about ways to get people show up there That'll work come back. Let's talk about serious firearms training. But also don't talk about this. The other half of the Naval Air Station Pensacola at terror attack. And what does it mean in terms of what you carry and how you carry.
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"You're listening to stories of discovery adventure through adventures answer. This podcast is sponsored by the fabulous to to you the uk's largest importer after tokes if you wanna put two or anything took to relate. It took to uk's the company despite say they love token tokes as much as i do. Hello and welcome to the show. This week i talked to near lawson no works in the low carbon farming industry with his company g energy. They design and install green powered greenhouses to self serious national issues of food. Security and agricultural reliance on fossil fuels but through his life nails other passion is over landing. I got through my adventures in its switzer. Nineteen seventy eight. When he was eighteen he made hitch hiked across the sahara desert staunton in morocco. I'm making their way through. And his year to garner in two thousand he and his wife says off an eighteen month epic journey from the uk to cape town in bumble. they converted landrover. I'm more recently. Soccer across mongolia on a bike in tweeden are less nothing about that. But let's go back to nine hundred eight near was eighteen on his gap year. Lay ahead. I sent you get back out there. That's the first thing i i sent from. You'd you'd like to adventure soon. Yeah so i don't know what was the next one. Just it's just a thought process and and to just to get out there So let's talk about hitchhiking across the sahara. Now that is a big place. This a how eleven countries as big as china. Where did you start. where did you go. i was eighteen. Had left school Oh my mates down to australia on a year off before university. Yep i had stayed in england. I shot investing france rebecca. do french. I was in working london with another friend who stayed behind. We sat in the public and saying all we try to. Everyone else has gone. What should we do miss that idea. Let's hitchcock across the sahara. Which we do and i think probably took about four weeks to come up with a plan which was sticky. Somehow she wants to skip your so. We took the train down through your eye. Was my parents living in france. Time drugs on the way to say goodbye. My mother Lived and spent a number of a form two years in ghana so there's already a bit of an instruction i think. Most parents be horrified. If eighteen year old sons. And i'm going to hitchhike across the sahara. Yes on my mother was very much. I'd like to come to her. Recollection was jumping in the pickup in ghana. Driving up to timbuktu for picnic attack. Which you could do a nosedive. Anyway we were. We took the train down through europe in spain. We we're on the sleep train. The police stepped on slightly before madrid. Station i was strip searched on the train. I was arrested and tried bill into the police station in handcuffs with a group of north africans. And as i went. The friend always going with i said please. Just bring up the embassy and they'll shoots it out and lo and behold I was in. I have been as i said. Strip-searched intimately searched for hidden trucks. And things like that phone call came in from the british embassy said on spike in place. They don't know why they've arrest you. Rescue maybe grease let you go. I said but why surely this is wrong. He said she's spain. I suggest you go. Won't towns unforced in my luggage. Who still on the train and the training paid out day so that had to be found It had been side. There wasn't notified you in the huddle my camera and things on that anyway that was An instruction as to civilized part of your. What was africa. Ready going to be live. So we cross Over to ten year over from just serious with it into which is where the real hitchhiking and stuff started Got pulled into interrail marocco. The market fellows the one tonight hotel from things got ripped off a couple of flying carpets interesting Then started off. We'll be best to get an swing because the re we did doesn't exist anymore because algiers shutdown. Yes you cannot go that way again. Congress which. I'm one thing i always said was i would love to do that. do africa spain. Which is what inspired the two thousand trip. Yeah so just having a quick amount so you eighteen. I'm gonna. I'm gonna guess you could cook. Owns district go horribly wrong. So sort of nineteen eighty. At eighty five eighty six eighty six january six. So looking at the so wh- in those days it was guide lonely planet. I can't remember which one i had but we ended up going to we. We didn't do morocco proper. We stayed in the north coast. We couldn't really travel around. We're relying on on hitchhiking rides. We went to Chess chan in landa bet and then we were heading for the morocco crossing which was already the algerie crossing We got there was another stays. money was an issue It was. I think money was They had government six exchange rates. She about half of the action exchange rate so. We did a thing of the buddha where we did some black-market money We had to hide on our person in those days. It was a film cases if humanity outgrow them in a case so we took one of those and stuff to haul in notes inside it. Back your luggage please. Ourselves then headed across the border and on the other side. I think it was It was tough that we opted. Stay there and again those days. You couldn't book anything. So is a case of queuing up for this little window. A hole in a wall loma everyone else. They wish we by q. Nicely but the other student so we lost our tickets and the next day we had to return again. This time we had. We had to fight all whites front Which we did Gotta all tickets. I can't remember where we were heading off to that so out from and we were going down to ten minutes. Which was the sort of the algeria crossing of the sahara and Libya no no no heading staff counts care so from asia we headed south to thebig was another crossing from there to asha this point. We still seem to. It was amount getting a lift in the back of a pickup. Yeah and i had this great image. My mind's sadly chemicals stolen of the two of us sat in the back of a pickup two goats being driven across the desert on. I suppose ephedra fro degraded road. The driver just to collect dissipate all five miles into the desert and we looking at each other thinking help. What's gonna happen here because you dump middle of the desert nicole our baggage but actually he took us to his home and it was the most amazing evening sitting there under the stars with a. I know cheering news family. Incredible hospitality and him playing the guitar and just sleeping out under the stars. Next day we were given a lift back to the road again. Yup where we were dropped so we just sat with homes out writing for the next picking and that was for the next pickup but it is it is coach that you look off the fellow travellers. So there is no particular concern. Yeah We we picked up the next list again heading further south. This is probably a journey that by car you could drive in the day or two for us. I think it took about a month. We very chock you so many pickups where Yes i would say pick ups. Some public busters. Yeah when we go to again with another major town and we were looking for There's a crossroads. We dropped off on which we were concerned about. Because traffic by now is getting lights and It was effectively a water tank watering hole. So we ended up to this crossroads full of twenty four hours right no food no show nothing just watering hole just wondering what was going to happen We then gonna lift on a big truck modern truck which was full of dried peas. And because we were starving. Remember pushing these pay in would of to hydrate again. We can have something to actually eat. Didn't really work from there. We headed into a nice could installer which was Another fairly big market town on a junction From day in sala heading south we Take up a couple of Village macedo trucks we lift on the back of those and then they walked at night and we offer the opportunity to bond with Which which is banging on the door. Two o'clock in the morning where my friend woken up in the truck drivers running his hands through the head when his chest he pints out and said we couldn't leave this. We can't carry on with so we left behind. I'm not surprised. Yes that was definitely. I've always choice. Yeah and then We headed down to temin russet which. He's the center of the deep south of algiers. Cheerier and the insurance the last bit which is the crossing over to increase the border with nesia. Okay and so that that you you will not allow. It's quite controlled military wise There was activity going on in our area even in those days So we had to take an official bus and hey we were again. Chewing the door for a couple of days. Missed a couple of buses Eventually got onto a bus and then headed into the true proper sahara hogar mountains. Okay an a a recollection of that part of the route was There's a stone and tradition is the good luck for the traveler. you need to Strive around this stone. Three times before you continue that was an oversized minibus with how many people thirty people in it and that that god is down to the border town of ingraham. Yeah which used to border with Nesia is quite a central route down to africa. Isn't it in that time. There were a lot of French who would buy eyo pershing five fours to with three rows of seats. And they were known as desert taxis at the bottom in france they would drive down into west africa and so and then fly and that was a film. I still recently. French film could four which revisit that where people were by renner floros. Y- driving down. Three morocco mauritania setting the internet out of the world. I have a story where we went to her last year and my first call was manner. Twelve give it to me my by my father and the next time. I ran a trove regime walker because they're obliged yards of. That's where that's where they go to die or to have it in the life. He was quite amazing. Say no these twelve the life exactly twelve four hours reynaud five. Oh food for some reason. They love them. They're so from the the nesia buddha of an e visa dusty oh towns We ended up and from memory. We tag as which is the capital. My memories of agadez The had zoo which probably has a few emaciated animals in it are in a bicycle weather ties. Which is tied together. It's a rubber not pneumatic to the old pool. Road breaks in the surface toll. Morton great for that potted wealth. Ready should be bulletproof We then did a deal with the either retaliate or swiss up to tears. You had a coach and the coach was converted into Three Sleeping sections and i had space for a couple more of a sweet. We hitched within for three days to see us down to the We wanted to avoid nigeria. Okay and we were heading towards an so. We hitched from agadez down to near me pigtail visas and then And again i think this point. We were back on the public transport and took A train and that was an experience so well trained was the third class ticket sitting on again Think fan cotton on this train with hundreds of other people on the roof. Hang of the doors to images you see in india and the train would stop every now and again in the middle of nowhere and they'll be effectively and impromptu market with the locals will pop up setting food and water and things like that. And then you do the whole macabre and you try to head off from painting. We headed down to the coast where we stayed for a few days and then hitched various rise with people over into togo and stayed in the capital of togo And we actually again. We were heading the lonely planet guide heading for the loj where most people go and some guy picked us up and said oh i can few cheap ice and stay with us and he had a concrete. Or or yeah. Concrete house adore but no particular window left off stuff. There slept on the floor mattress When town around about this time we'd very much money. I had had a Sony walkman in those days play at my twelve cassettes with me. And i heard rather than having aa batteries. I got the d cell batteries. I had sold it them together. Wrap them around with type and to west of them. Okay and i was picked regularly in customs because like some stick of dynamite physical a couple of other physics. Yeah something else coming in. I remember crossing and it was probably one of the ben. Oh togo voters and I had rugby shouts in there and Old rookie soaks unaccustomed. Stripes are legal in this country. Confiscating my clothes. They find the and you can't do law customs nice days because they are king yes. They pretty much help themselves to the luggage. Did you have to get visas at each. Stop at the overland borders. Is that where you picked up visas to. I've land no. I think we had arranged a chemical combat thirty years now so we'd arranged A couple of days before leaving the u. k. And i think the bannon in togo ones we had to get in the capital of nizhny Okay and the reason to Said by the time we go to togo we had we. We basically run out of money trying to live like locals and live off. The locals eat is relatively cheap. So i was trying to sell a woman likely which is attractive thing down there definitely just to get some money for food coming other bits and pieces to Shootout airline tickets. You you're attending was in lomas. I no no further new contract to dysentry and From local foods. I think that was often nesia and We had found a french foreign legion doctor and he prescribed three shots for a day. Is that i who anything in your stomach and it works. have you tried it since It would never drink before the wasn't when people's before but yeah. I think i've had a few record as they cooler as well. I think it's it's good to keep in. Just in case is named you know adults. I do it with aniseed. Taste with medicine is not in favour offering product for medicinal purposes and recreational justice and trade. Which which hopefully is not something you want to get too often as it. Let's be honest exactly so the stars in the desert when you look up you said you were just looking at the stars. Are they as ms memorizing as people site. Absolutely the the We owe foods in this country. Have a huge amount of light pollution to. Yeah and you don't see stella's when you're out in the black desert. Sky is incredibly bright and a lot of the Season drivers you know the the trucks carry kaga things as she don't use their lights at night. I sat dry by the scars rossa. It's incredible yeah it is. There is much out there. And i quite affinity for these days. We visited where possible. We parking rock a couple years ago family. And at the end of all long africa travel lifting namibian for wall which is set to be the oldest as it in the world are. It's something you look back with absolute fondness you. Do you wish you can't australia or is that Adventure statewide you and was something new. I felt like. I don't going to a stralia working in a ball and drinking with friends. You can do that in london. why'd you have to go straight to getting out there and it was a. It was a real growing up experience with age of eighteen being thrust into morocco. Having to sign for yourself you spoke to food hundred. Now you've i she could go out and find it yourself the over little things of one of who in those days you you pay for hotels by the person milk by the room. One of hookah room the climb through the window getting cooler mountain having an argument about being charged twice sleeping On the trucks in town shelter amending petrified with trump was gonna drive away in the middle of the night. I imagine that yes. It's basically under but there's a certain the quite sanitized because the the lack of rain and vegetation things that you can't just put your head down or both days oblivious to school in the snakes and things. Yeah was that did cross my mind just send. Scorpions desert But basically just while camping at the end of the day. That's that's that's what it is. Isn't it yes and it is. I thought we were there in january so when we crossed from algeria in tomorrow cut. I remember snow so the other way round from broken jerry. Snowing in har that was quite surreal. I think it's what is it the Under japanese his one inch of rainfall in the year thinking the sahara is not on six to plus forty or something. that's that's the temperature range in the sahara. Massive just a mess them and it's hot as it is. Yeah and we don't appreciate that in this country you because we're surrounded. We're not island surrounded by sea When you look at somewhere like Into desert simple swale are thousand meters high. Yes she's hot than anything we've got here and we look somewhere hotel mountains. I desperately wants guy back. They all food. They need to be explored desert. There is is your archetype. Ross away season things like that But sadly you go the security. She's missiles timbuktu's being taken over by Is fish and they seem to trade route from that sort of timbuktu. The atlantic coast because straight across through algeria. Libya morocco egypt. Yes in for middle east. And that's why they've shot the desert found in egypt. Because i think it was a number of years ago there were a bunch of tourist. In the desert and swiss tourists nine increases the egyptian military took them and killed them out there right. Yes you have to be quite careful. Dietary going off. Wrote in egypt still dan. You think you can still do it to degrade especially the north it's I think that. I think friends who lived in egypt and exclude the tested weekends left. Probably full five years ago because the egyptians have shot the desert down you can Travel effectively. Yes that's a world. War overland visit down the nile into sedan and then guest carrying dan is well mapped out. Isn't it but you can go off. Phd if you to nothing you can do a lot of thomas these days yes you can. Yes and nothing could have pushed. You can do it in six weeks and it took cannot do it in six weeks. Now i'd non months. I can take nine months off. I think it was hanging of nine months. We have plans to nine months. We took year and a half so much to see it all the way to stories of discovering adventure from adventures in the to a podcast now available on our chips two thousand nine hundred across the gobi in mongolia wearing tweet for love visiting miss gen and you know we all the locals are taking folks who well. Yes with the tourist. We should be taking to them. But he's quite the other way round. I'm what so. That's is northern china's and says rights. I it's quite high isn't it. Yeah it is high. Yeah so we basically went into mongolia and went to northern steppe. being cycling misjudge the height Started off fight cling. and i i we Up one thousand six hundred meters okay. That's how i yeah. That's a lot to do on a bicycle. Abors the altitude. Because you really do need time to recover ties into that sort of stuff. We just take so much more after views. Well doesn't it sucked into that sort of altitude until you acclimatize early. And then it was up and down. Yeah but it's the false expense in the space. You can see your dot on the horizon cycle this now and it seems endless when you're doing an incline. You are filling up with three or four hours and you're going for a powerful mountain because mongolia. They got little piles of stones with the The prayer flag from the yes. Yes and you were camping. Yeah everything's well counting that we. We basically flew out of london with a backpack eleven kilos which had everything we needed. Yes busy. Pike's the bags cooking out for The time we were there okay. Out those sleep under the stars. Very much. Sony back and how halloween the vote. How many miles. Oh we did Two hundred and fifty kilometers okay. Yeah but if it's up hill yes it's yeah we're up on not lumpy record lumpy Moving lump able dumpy not flown to know what was the highest point. I think it was one thousand eight hundred and something. That's not we go out to some hot springs so that was Quite disappointing cycle that way. And there's hosts brings little tourist resort clitorises. Who it's a it's a concrete bowel washer knit Spa treatments next door. So it's nice to have a massage talk. I can imagine really appreciate that very well off. Yeah sounds like a great experience. That what what made you say. Expose you to go and do that. What what was the idea behind that with the idea behind. That was One day my son could me a mammal. And i had to ask water. Member was a middle aged man. Like class right. Yeah yeah so In five and he was actually sitting sitting at work with colony discussing bench in the office and there were five of us and we went. Oh that's yeah that's do something mad. something different. My son's scooby mammal who summer into he'd for honesty. Mongolia pranav and six soon dwindled. Down to just the two of that she came to the day we went into the travel agents. If the ticket yeah we went off your why by instance. It's sort of you don't want to think about it to all just got to subdue a semi was exactly. I'm not the these days. I if i go back to talk across the sahara it was a guidebook host restaurant I didn't see the all to anyone at home. Gap during that whole time. you queue up for three days to get bus ticket Cameras the old film cameras and it was a radio member in morocco over local news about concord. Thinking watch what what would you mean. Codes crashed but you see Space shuttle whichever was exploded coming. We were not removed from the news and everything was oganization. The mungai day trip internet everything. You can see everything you're going to see hung before you actually go which is slightly takes away the sense of adventure on air to the point where we hit Ho- trip was planned. We had Visas waiting tickets waiting busted waiting combination booked when you exactly where we're going and we should pack this whole adventure into effectively eighteen days from leaving heathrow flying to most guy twenty four hours in moscow then flying to Lake bike how. Become the trans-siberian train. Smokey and try. And do that dan into i'm back to you on the train. I think it's just a couple of days. You kinda fool team detroit before teen days when the train not my dear fund these days so fly into to lake baikal and missing the most the siberian fun than taking up the nonstop today is still an adventure goalie and then In a couple of people said oh you should raise money for charity in restaurant but some wasn't interested in plug it in such a short amount of time and so as the puck in to see that will wasn't a Quiet moment i can imagine that. That's just shows you the difference to these days and what we have before it was previously. Did you did is possible to do a trip outside without smartphone. These days is choice to do without small fire. Do you think he would halt suspi able to enhance experience or didn't he just to scared now. I'll occurred when did we. We kept everything down to eleven kilos. Basically small if i am with your camera tickets you everything within that was a challenge trying to keep batteries the seven days of great effectively. And and we use navigating as well. You can download the app and us as chief yes to yes for the incredibly useful the end of the day. They all convenience. When i hitchhiked across the sahara think we had Matt nine five six covered the holy sahara and that was it. That's nick swapped books on the way and there's no tv news. I knew had a walkman to listen to music at. What was on the cassette the pros and cons of hitchhiking. Which was roger waters without pink. Floyd one of his that was pink. Floyd woo okay. I was a bit as easy. Toke our cat. oh. I can't think there's nothing wrong with us. House that those enough to listen to you for for for a month on leap. What sam to mongolia taking a bus from two to whether the top step all kind guy the to soundtrack to that we've mongolian throat music eight hours on a coach with a video playing on loop with mongolian singers an and throat sing. That drive you insane. I keep promising myself. I'm going to do it. It'll five minute video with a couple of the video. I took a new set. The fighters the by the franchise for that will be music off my accounts i've ever heard do. I is to search you. Should you should different. This show sponsored by cyclic. Beautiful watching life Thank you for to great adventures. Thirty years apart is big. Journey is still yet to be held in a future episode. Show here how. We traveled from london to cape town. bumble series. one landrover on next round is show. I talked to tom butterworth. He bought a pajaro from uk three years ago. 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038 | Time Warp
"Our world is full of the unexplainable. And if history is an open book all of these amazing tales right there on display just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the cabinet of curiosities. Madeleine more came into the world in nineteen twenty four. She was born Intel in court a small village in France where she lived with her three brothers and one sister. Her mother died giving birth to the youngest child and her father abandoned, the family soon after leaving them to be cared for by the state as a result, Madeline grew up in the foster system. But as she got older she worked as a servant on local farms. Her story doesn't end there though in her teenage years conflict erupted across Europe, sending countries around her into a second World War define safety and fled to Orly own where she found refuge inside a convent during her time there the war claimed two of her brothers, but her remaining siblings her brother Renee and her sister, Nancy both remained close for years to come. In fact, Madeleine would later work in a factory just one town over from Nancy all the way up till nineteen sixty seven. That's when she met and married, a railway worker and the two of them moved to Algiers to start fresh and Madeleine never moved back to France. After that, she lived out the rest of her life with her husband in the Mediterranean. It's a nice story. Isn't it a life that began with tragedy only to be torn apart by wars ends up full of peace and tranquility? But even after all of that Madeleine story doesn't end. There. Fact, it was just beginning in her eighties Madeline had to return to her hometown Intel in court in two thousand six to renew her idea card and secure her government pension. She brought with her the usual documentation like her birth certificate and her passport and presented them in. What should have been a pretty simple process? There was just one problem. Madeline more had already claimed her government pension. Her checks were sent to. To sant- at her home of the past twenty years. Now Asli our Madeline was confused and possibly even upset. Sure. She had lived in Algiers for nearly four decades. But she was the real Madel and more. She had the paperwork to prove it. Of course, the authorities assumed it was just a simple case of identity theft. Someone else was pretending to be Madeleine in order to claim her pension as their own. They just needed to spend some time investigating this sort it all out, and then all the confusion would go away. Except it didn't win. This new Madeline arrived from her home in Santiago. She produced the exact same documentation a birth certificate ID card even old pay stubs all of them clearly showing identical. Details to our and more. Both women gave detailed descriptions of their upbringings to the police each of them explained how their mother had died young in their father had abandoned them. Each woman described living in foster care after that. This new Madeline seemed to know every single detail of our own madeleine's life right down to the most tragic pieces. Clearly, this was delong a case of stranger getting a hold of forged documents to steal a little money. This was something else something stranger, but being the twenty first century. They had new tools to lean on tools like DNA. So they acquired a sample from Rene madeleine's brother who had survived the war and then took samples of both women to compare them. And the results were conclusive. Our Madeline was the real Madeline. And I'm sure you're as relieved as I am to hear that. But it still wasn't over. Because there was a new piece of evidence that muddied the waters rather than making them. More clear. It was an old black and white photograph that Renee had sent to his sister. It had been taken during their time at the orphanage when they were children in the photo the police could clearly see young Madeline posing in a sun-filled field with a smile on her face. But she wasn't alone. Rene was there and he had his arms around another girl. It was clear that the first girl was Madeline our Madeleine, of course. But everyone wondered who the second girl was Renee didn't remember when he handed the photo to his sister. But someone did recognize the second girl one of the policemen. The one who had been interviewing the new Madeline for hours that day was absolutely certain that the stranger in the photo was the elderly woman sitting across the table from him after he pointed out to the others. Everyone else agreed which was weird because neither of the women had any memory of the photograph be taken. It's understandable. Really? The photo must have been seventy years old. I have a hard enough time remembering what I did two weeks ago. So seven decades of felt like an eternity. They had no memory of the photo, no memory of ever meeting. Clearly, they lived at the same orphanage way back in the nineteen thirties. None of this explains. How both women came to think of themselves as Madeleine more perhaps the bore had been too rough on the second woman, and she began to slowly think of herself as the girl she'd spent time with at the orphanage, maybe she pretended for a while. And as time went on that new persona took over and replace the woman she had once been or maybe it was all an intentional lie. And she was just really committed to it. Whatever the reason I'd like to think there was more to the story. No you. This episode of cabinet of curiosities was made possible by fracture. Almost everyone takes shares photos online, but very few of those photos end up printed and even fewer and up on display. Maybe it's time to focus on the moments. That mean, the most in your life by turning your favorite digital memories into meaningful decor instead of printing on photo paper fracture, prints directly onto glass, turning your favorite photographs into works of art. 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I know, and it might be strange concept to grasp if you haven't experienced it. They must have felt that way to Charlotte. Eleanor to got to experience it firsthand for themselves. Eighteen eighty six Charlotte. Moberly was appointed as the principal of school for young women in Oxford as her duties became more overwhelming than one person could handle she considered bringing on someone else to help with the day-to-day operations someone suggested she talked to a woman named Eleanor Jordain who ran a school of her own. She had an apartment in Paris and Charlotte took the opportunity to stay with her as both vacation and a job interview. Both women had a love for travel and in nineteen o one during Charlotte. Stay at eleanor's place a toured several locations around France one such landmark was the palace of Versailles built by Louis. The thirteenth the palace had been home to French royalty for generations, including two of its most famous residents. Louis the sixteenth and his wife. Marie antoinette. After a tour of the place and its vast marble interiors elaborate tapestries and sprawling corridors Eleanor and Charlotte found the whole thing underwhelming. I'm not sure what they were expecting. But verse I didn't do it for them. So instead of going home right away, they decided to explore more of the grounds and see the Petit tree. None a Chateau built by Louis the fifteenth, and where Marie Antoinette was known to spend most of her time, but they got lost Eleanor and Charlotte spent more time looking down at their guidebook than at the path. They were walking on and as a result. They wandered off the main route and couldn't find their way back as they did the overall mood of the world around them seem to shift later recalled that they both felt a wave of nausea washed over them so much. So that they had to flag down to gardeners for help. At least that's what they thought. The two men were since both men had been pushing a wheelbarrow nearby. But there was something different about them. Something off rather than wearing modern clothing of nineteen one France their outfits seem to centuries too old. Despite being dressed in an odd manner. The men were helpful and the guided the two women back toward the Petit trion, Charlotte and Eleanor considered the men as they walked with them. Maybe they were actors dressed up in period clothing for some performance. Elsewhere at the palace before they could decide however events took an even weirder. Turn. The past a cottage where a woman in rustic clothing handed a little girl jug of water at another building. A man wearing thick black coat and wide-brimmed hat looked straight at them face covered. In the telltale marks of smallpox they were startled by yet. Another man who ran up behind them an ushered them toward the petites Rian where Charlotte witnessed site that would haunt her for the rest of her life. It was a woman also in vintage garments. And she was sketching on the grass in front of the palace. She wore a summer dress in a large white hat, which sat upon a head of Fiqh yellow hair. Eleanor didn't see the woman Charlotte thought back to the gardeners in their green jackets and eighteenth century, hats, the man with a thick cloak and smallpox and the poor woman with the child. This woman was no different close appeared new, but of a style much older than anything, Charlotte. Eleanor were used to and this beautiful fair. Haired woman bore a striking resemblance to the palaces. Former homeowner a woman who had well lost her head the woman. Charlotte was looking at was none other than Marie Antoinette. The women didn't talk to each other about what they'd seen until a week later. They compiled their story of what they called a time slip into a book, titled an adventure, which they published in nineteen eleven under the pseudonyms Elizabeth Morrison and Francis Lamont the tail and its authors were widely ridiculed in publications all over the world. One critic had written a biography of a French aristocrat by the name of Robert demont skew who had been known to thrown lavish parties where guests dressed in period clothing and post for living paintings. It was possible that Charlotte Eleanor had stumbled into one of these gatherings. But some things didn't quite add up the young girl and her mother who had been dressed in peasant clothing as well as the man with smallpox didn't seem like they would be welcome at such an extravagant party. And the dreadful feeling that washed over the to academic women as they ventured deeper into the gardens couldn't be explained away. Either. It's easy for us to scoff at stories like the one told by Charlotte, Moberly and Eleanor. Dane, if we can't see it for ourselves. How are we to know if it's true or not tales of alien abductions Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster have survived because our fascination with the unexplainable. And this story was no different. Charlotte and Eleanor swore that they'd caught a glimpse of time gone by that they had experienced life in a time that was very much not their own. And they wanted us to know about it. I like to believe it all really happened at some day. It might happen. Again, a tourist might stumble through the garden paths of their Cy and find themselves standing beside historical celebrity, and if they do though well anyone believe them today. Maybe maybe not only time will tell. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the cabinet of curiosities subscribe for free on apple podcasts or learn more about the show by visiting curiosities podcast dot com. The show was created by me Aaron mckie in partnership with how stuff works I make another award winning show called Lor which is a podcast book series and television show, and you can learn all about it over at the world of Lor dot com until next time. Stay curious.
Episode 14. Algae As The Food of The Future
"And hello and welcome back to alga talk podcast finally check together. We're back together again and we have a big subject right coming up just before we start this subject. Here's the number for you and the number is nine point seven billion. Do you have any idea what i'm talking about. <hes> on jenny get i mean i feel like it's a i mean we're at seven seven billion people so i feel like it's possible we might be talking about. The future of the population of the world didn't how maybe algae. Could you know help feed those people. I don't know i'm i'm. That's my guess well spoilers. You should've said spoilers yet. You're absolutely right nine. Point seven billion i was referring to the population projected population in in two thousand for the year two thousand fifty that is united nations. <hes> has published in this episode. We're going to talk about l. g. and and food and the future of the planet and specifically about can be the food for future boiler alert it. Can i in my hand so what i believe. We'll try to make an overview of this. <hes> of this topic today because the the question is very as our mutual research has shown that there's a lot of information on that and still <hes> <hes> we're gonna try to talk about this when we are talking about l. food <hes> it's not that it's not that it's very new you thing actually the united nations organization back in nineteen seventy s they they were saying that spirulina is the food of future and <hes> then the world health organization at <hes> at just like this quote on. I will put an end here. They said that it's a very interesting. <hes> a source of food. They were like very diplomatic but i also know a little bit that like in world war two after world war two they thought going to be a mass starvation after world war two because no one was planting was doing any crops and they thought that kerala was going to be the future at they also saw that the same problem that even today we're hitting that it might be a little bit too expensive to be able to create this but we're we're getting better. You and i both know that we're getting better at this every day but <hes> yeah so here's the thing with this many people even in our in the not quite distant future by the way right whale leaving in in two thousand nineteen now and <hes> it's two thousand fifty is probably our lifetime. I i hope <hes> so it's going to happen. We're both going to see so. It's a lot of people to food to feed and definitely <hes> the projections are also saying that the traditional way of producing acing food like cereals and all these crops and meat and stuff that we eat 'em has to increase very drastically to be able to provide provide <hes> for these people and <hes> the questions arise right so this is going to be sustainable. I what the environmental impact is going to be so there's a lot of questions and one of those propositions that we hear is that we should use more <hes> algae as a source source of food source of different aspects and additives to food. We both know right. We've done our share off history of algae and people and humankind so we remember that <hes> backing the in the ancient times aztecs and <hes> some people's in in africa using spirulina drawings purely right yeah so it's not the new idea the very new idea. I don't like engine used it did but yes but again the commercial production of algae <hes> has become possible possible only recently you know relatively historically saying recently right some yeah a few decades in the sixties or seven zero absolutely it's this. This isn't a you know an industry that has been around since the industrial revolution. Even it took you know microscopes that we talked about not past episode. Ah electron microscopes to be able to figure out that figure out bill give us the eyesight to be able to see the micro algae not that exist all around us in the air in the water and everything and <hes> you know as we're going into this industry. We're gonna find and <hes> that we can use. Those already are in in different products are ready. They were talking about food with this being <hes> quite an old idea yeah but recent development <hes> we only have <hes> some decades of actual commercial production and the industry it's quite young and there was a lot of interesting stuff going on and now there's this pressure of feeding the world so let's get to some <hes>. Let's get to the food yeah. Let's get to the food and i hope you've you've had your you've had your meal before that you didn't come to record hungry. I surely had mine in a snack and i i can i can always when we talk about feeding the world in the future. Oh all this other jazz. We should also say that actually algae being used a lot nowadays and i don't really know if it's a well known fact but i was quite surprised price to know that algae and now a used <hes> in almost every kind of food we would that is produced. Those are not may be significant ingredients like you can see see the color or smell something but the substance dried biomass is used in dairy products in bread man and and toothpaste even the anti-religion even toothpaste right so so when we talk about using using algae as as food. This is already kind of here. We have it interesting question especially to me. If i'm going to need this and like what is going to look like one is going to be. Is it going to be something that looks like <hes> more traditional traditional quote or unquote food for me right and i was gonna smell and taste and if you look into that <hes> there are some curious examples and i believe you have a couple of those in your bag so maybe can tell us <hes> about those article that we posted recently on our facebook page about algae falafel and philophical is a chick pea fried chickpea chickpea ball that is very common in the middle east. This was a contest of seeing what kind of future foods we can produce and a group of scientists put together the future concept of a company or product <hes> uh-huh which is they call al ghafur lawful that they use spirulina in making their fried philophical balls. You and i both both worked for the company that also <hes> with this spirit enough for lawful <hes> also added a tahina china which is <hes> being based dip <hes> it's made into like a sauce they also added as authentic from america's pla viollis the best way to make algae a part of your everyday meal is to make it a part part of your everyday meal. I mean that's the easiest way for to give you a product that you're gonna like. You're gonna want again now because you're saving the world because because tastes good nutritional. It's got protein scar carbohydrates in certain good natural fats. The idea of the alga awful awful is that they wanna bring a protein rich phil awful ball that we've all had an appeal or you and i have at least to the market cricket and this is a good way to get protein to people that are vegan well but philosophies vegan yeah right okay but if we're going to go in that direction that i would say that chickpeas takes a lot more land and a lot more water to grow at spirulina. It takes up less land. It takes up less water. Even though it lives in water you can recycle that water. These possibilities are something that we're going to have to think about. There's an article article that we also posted on our facebook page about how seaweed <hes> they found in oregon that was a red algae <hes> when they fried it up tasted like bacon according to them and it was a big article i would love if our audience would write to us if they somebody from oregon tasted that that <hes> algae 'cause they're not producing it. <hes> it was sort of somebody that was working with <hes> fish farming and saw that this this seaweed was coming up and tried to fry it up tasted like bacon. They're only making like twenty or thirty leaders or something like that of it so it's not going into mass production but they're looking into it and what's more impressive. I think about all of this and algae and and food is that first of all there's so many articles we could talk about. We haven't talked about feeding algae to cows or the shellfish industry using algae or fish farming on land. There's so many other things to talk about that. I think we're going to have multiple episodes. It's about this about food and not even food feed and supplements. We haven't even gotten into. There's so many things that were even discovering now. It's only been for decades. We really been using this. There's so much more to go that it is very exciting to me that that where what in the future is algae can bring us when we talk about <hes> <hes> <music> sushi when we talk about you know mrs super some then it's all all kinds of traditional food that is connected to seaweed seaweed or to something connected to the sea. Let's put a generally right and it comes from those cultures that are coastal cultures and they so obviously they have this this connection but once you talk about bay algae-based bacon or at least algae that tastes like bacon. That's the question. How important important is it to you to have something on. You played that maybe looks likely tastes like bacon better to know that it's algae. I mean is it. Gonna <hes> affect your perception of this. I'm kosher for everybody out there in the podcast world. I'm i'm jewish an kosher just like muslims. I don't eat pig <hes> for me. I heard bacon is great. Taste ace great everything you put on. It is great. I've heard that you put it on just everything and it tastes great and i think that's because of the banking now if we can get that out out of an algae out of a seaweed. I think that changes the game. I think that's the same thing that's going to change the game with creating meat out of a patriot ish <unk> i to say like that but i think that people will like it the impossible burger. That's used that that everybody loves. That can't tell the difference between meeting yeah. That's where we're going if i if i could be vegetarian more i would be more vegetarian if i had if you told me he it doesn't matter if it looks like a bacon we could make it look like bacon. Have you wanted to look like bacon. We could make it look like bacon. <hes> you know oh. That's what's gonna make the difference but if it tastes like bacon that gives you that tastes like you had with your mother and eating that bacon for the first time if it gives abs you that that feeling for me. It's not gonna make a difference. I'll be happy to taste but for you if it gives you that thing. You're gonna come back there. That's we're talking about. Also is that with all these foods algae's food and algae. You know the most important thing is is do you like it. Can i sell this to you. Is this a product. You will buy because you know yes. There's a huge vegan trend out there but so you and i both eat me. I don't think we're going to stop eating me but i think in the future i think people will were going towards a trend where people will eat less meat and i think algae is going to be a part of that. Also as much stopping starvation or lack of nutrients for people <hes> we're gonna have food that will replace meat because meat is also a drag on the planet and and it's going to be important and algae is going to play a part in that. I mean spirulina for instance gives you sixty five percent protein and beef only gives you a twenty percent percent protein. That's an article one of the articles that we have talks about that has lane is important and and we even have it israel <unk> a high school that is growing spirulina because they want to try to make cheaper for everybody so that african countries now south africa uh rwanda we posted at once again on our facebook page we posted it and it shows you that this is expanding and two african countries that do need this and you know i think as much as running clean running water nutritional supplements are going to be part of the future of feeding these nine point seven billion people that are you know in our future. That's what's coming well. Actually i have an idea for our listeners and probably we should put it on and a facebook page as well as separate post or a or paul <hes> the same question would the fact that it's a meatless hotdog and alga based <hes> <hes> food change your perception of this meal as a whole would you would you enjoy your hot dog less if you i know that it's it's not meet that you're chewing on and i think it's an interesting question and for some people it's their incentive. It's the attractive <hes> fact about this and they're going to try it because they don't want to eat meat but they still want to have a burger but for some people <hes> that it might be <hes> you know that might be a barrier. They <hes> they can't overcome because hey like. I'm eating his burger. <hes> and i know it's not meet so kind of enjoyed less. At this point in history we can discuss laugh around those you know <hes> meatless hotdogs or alcohol or whatever al bacon or whatever those <hes> scientists come up with a just because it's curiosity it's not the thing and the only thing that you can eat and by the supermarket but at some point in time <hes> we might face this reality. It doesn't look good for our future. If it's hard for us to be able to feed even the amount that we have now in a you sort of western world or the first world versus the developing world developing world is growing much faster in china and india india. These are these are thank goodness. I think countries that are accepting of vegetarianism and using seaweed and algae as part of their food. I think we're gonna see a major. Increase is the asian markets <hes> the more they grow in but that is their traditional market anyway sure but the more that they grow in that traditional market the more that they're the algae is not cheap. Deep algae isn't h. E. pro actually. This is one of the points thank you jack. This is one of the things that i wanted also to a highlight because once we talk about <hes> feeding the planet <hes> and we have to compare what's the state of the industry nowadays and this is a very good point that you made the the that producing commercial pre production of algae <hes> with it being on the rise and <hes> trendy dan hi. It's still a very expensive business and as i said at this point <hes> if tomorrow this industry had to <hes> feed the whole planet it wouldn't be enough. It wouldn't be <hes> <hes> capable yeah i don't. I don't think commercial making accessible. I don't think we're talking about an immediate starvation of the world yes i do. We have this where people but we still have this on the horizon right. We still have these twenty fifty and those numbers and we kinda you. You know that it's coming but at the state of the industry that it has that is now <hes> we're talking about a very very expensive production so the costs of the final <hes> products are also high and to make it acceptable for the wide audience begins and especially if we talk about algae food <hes> algae-based food <hes> solving the survey ship problem. It's not there by any <hes> margin right so it. It has to this level talking about is the concept zip that we're not gonna be able to do. It and i think we're gonna see more algae not less in the future. No no no no. I'm not being pessimistic. I'm just saying nine th i'm just saying that really at this point. It's <hes>. It's good that it's developing. I think it's going to be even you know hopefully a <hes> gonna continue this way and despite the fact that some of those absolutely there are examples of the companies that started good and then you know went bankrupt and stuff but anyways the whole trend the interest is there and it's growing and there is more <hes> you know there. There's money only being put in and there's more interest and manpower so to say right so more and more scientists go in this direction so definitely it's gonna grow in. I hope it's going to get cheaper to produce and it's gonna get <hes> viable to more businesses to get into into this area and get to those twenty fifty to those nine billion people. We will be able to produce cheap algae food so so everybody can eat otherwise it doesn't. It's not worth it right yeah. No i totally agree what i what i would like to see in the future and what but i believe is going to happen because <hes> for instance you and i both work out alga tech and it's in the middle of the desert hazard basically what the stretch from the sahara this entire area is sand sand and rock and i do believe believe that in the future hopefully <hes> that we're gonna see algae factories like ours stretch from here or maybe even farther east from year to morocco and we're gonna see across the area because of the major sunlight we're gonna masih solar fields and algae factories right next to each other and the algae factory is gonna create more of these different <unk> <hes> kinds of algiers medicos or spare lena clo- we talked about <hes> but also new ones that we haven't even discovered yet <hes> <hes> that are coming down the pike because there is this much interest because it's such a new industry well yeah i try to imagine engine those fields of algae farms <hes> <hes> stretching to i have some. I have some environmental concerns as though but that's <hes> let's go sure let us not go down that road. 'cause <hes> definitely if if this industry grows everything's gonna come with it and yeah i. I definitely don't want to sound like a pessimist. I mean i really hope for the best i ended up being like a devil's advocate and may be that's the thing but anyway <hes>. This episode took her quite doctor that i was expecting but still oh i i hope we <hes> we kept that <hes> sparkle of hope to the end. Would i think we're we're talking about saving the world. Were we're if we're if we're if we're talking about saving the world then obviously it's you know we're trying to save it from a darker future. Well eh that that was that was that was an interesting conversation jack. I must admit it's been. It's been fun talking to you. It's been ah. I think it's great being back together. I think we have to do this. More often. Well definitely definitely gonna do is more often so that's going to do for another episode of alga talk. We just going to see next time with another amazing topic or an interview with us people well to to interview in the future and we're looking for more people have anybody that listened to the podcast is interested in being interviewed to <hes> you know we'd be very happy to promote any project. You're doing any company any you know student. That is just interested in algae. You're just not even a student just anybody that wants to have a conversation about algae. Yvonne and i are fully ready to to be able to interview you. We've been doing this for a little bit now and i think we have a lot more to talk about algae and we once again say hey you keep listening. Oh keep talking.
The Biggest Struggles of Our 20s
"I ramble pretty basic pay. Everyone welcome back to pretty basic. I was hoping you would take over aggies. Read my mind Gotcha. Oh well loves last week's episode because we just recorded. It was really good one. It was a juicy update on our lives. Yeah let's the T. what's the says it's going so I have a game today and I actually think it's I think it'll be interesting. It may be very anticlimactic but we'll figure it out. Hey I'm GonNa send you something right now. No and I just WanNa hear your reaction now. Is it a rocket ship. No did you text it to me yeah yeah together today today. Were both going to be taking the witch Youtube Yagu are you. Are we options. Though do we know we don't know no. We were both GonNa take it and see what we get recently. They had based on these or this urban outfitters outfit. Which Beauty Guru are you? I wasn't option to to not win but to get it. Yeah I got Lauren. I I think so money to see if we there's only four questions Dang it to quizzes on this. We can try try. I think it'd be funny to see who we get okay. What's your favorite food? The options are is also the front cover is a picture of a vessel. I'm assuming lifestyle bill. I'm assuming we're too. I would hope <hes> first of all come from twenty sixteen. Oh my God ten fifty three. I found this and I was like we need to do the favorite food ice cream fruit doughnuts pizza pasta or Sushi. Oh you already know your answer. I love donuts but Sushi's for sure my favorite we really ice cream. I like doughnuts more than ice cream. What how come you have literally fifty things of ice cream in your freezer because I'm a host and everyone loves ice cream? You always get it for yourself yourself. I mean I travel actually don't really eat much of it. That's insane re. I'm going with Sushi love. Sushi is your favorite store forever twenty one Zara target a local boutique anthropology urban outfitters see I feel like if I hit target that would help me get myself yeah but like what you actually minds definitely target. I'm GonNa say target but urban. Urban is a close okay favorite Color Green Pink Blue Yellow Purple White. Oh shoot anybody's by was an option to after I'm Nichole pink are I'm GonNa go light blue okay. We have to vote the last one at the same time because it'll come up with her shoes. Your dream vacation spot Toronto. Honolulu Cairo is Isaac Cairo Egypt Peres Tokyo or Los Angeles. I'm GONNA say Honolulu. What's yours? ooh See. I've been everywhere PUTT Egypt. I would say Los Angeles but I live here didn't like vacation I mean would you want like staycationing <unk> taking you living there out of it. Would you want to vacate Los Angeles. I think I would like kind of okay. I'll do Algiers. Okay ready to want Lauren. You got the Guitar Ski. You are extremely going and love going on adventure. You make lots of new friends wherever you go. You're very creative and love to help others. People admire that about you. Oh that's sweet. Do another quays one more okay. Let's look at the quizzes. We know whether you're more like Tanna or jake. Oh my God. I want that one I want them to. I honestly have not been keeping up with them. Though I haven't either but okay Plano pick a color or they're seven questions okay red orange yellow green all the colors <hes>. I'm going to go with white <hes> purple okay. What is your go-to makeup look light Glam Makeup Rainbow Everything Brown smokey eye or none O- Brown's Milky I for sure light glam makeup you to collaborate with Shane Dawson Dolan Twins Pudi Pied James Charles Shane Shane? What do you do for dinner? Get order online cooking for yourself leftovers or eat at a restaurant <unk> yourself. How do you get to work? 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Here's the thing too I think back to my old videos are old youtube videos that we would do <hes>. No one really does that stuff for twenties. Do you know what I mean. Yeah like it was very teen very like room to Corbo Blah but there's no videos like how to freaking do taxes the there's no videos like I'm in my mid twenties and so we should do that first of all we. I think there's a market that we're missing market of just stuff like that. I don't know so I found this article from elite daily and it's called fourteen struggles in your early twenties you can easily ditch ace APP. Well I think also through this podcast it's helped us a lot but like I feel like being open and talking about all of our struggles whatever that we're going through. It's it's how people relate to us a lot more in C._S.. More personal because they didn't know that we were going through these things yeah and I think a lot of times people think that because we're influencers are because we make whatever amount of money or do whatever and like lead this lifestyle whatever that we don't deal with like normal problem album yeah but are still just normal twenty year old girl you guys we go through it to go through so I'm curious to see. I don't know I figured we can just go through this list and like touch on each point that it talks about whether we've struggled with it whether either we have never had to struggle with it or just tips in advice for like that in general I think can be really interesting and we've never really even talked about some of the stuff with each other so I'm interested to see some of our points on different stuff yeah. I'm excited to go through really I'll try to link this the the show notes or whatever of this if I remember to send it in all remember but <hes> so you can see it but Jasmine von hall you wrote this so show truly oh this interesting it says a good portion of the struggles you're experiencing experiencing are likely self-made because you might have lost sight of who matters most in the equation of your life dot dot EU. This is your life after all and it is what you make of it. I love that laughs. What Jim Sounds me? Hey let's make a buck sorry again. Let's be real. You're twenty s like they're crazy. It's your time to be crazy. It's time to have fun is trying to fit like everyone is going through it. You are figuring yourself out. You were like your world's been rocked by thinking that you were completely one way and you're completely another way and it's totally fine but then also you cry lot and you don't know what's happening a lot of the time yeah I think I mean people always talk about like Oh yeah like him. In my twenties Blah Blah Blah but I swear like the way that you talk about when you're a teenager going through it and that's more of a normal thing. We're thinking about it like after high school. You have college after college if you go to college or if you don't go to college anytime you enter into this real world. I feel like everyone is hit with this just like W T.F. What do I do do? Some people have parents to help them. People don't even if you do a lot of times like parents can be a huge problem to like so you're just becoming an adult for like the real first time not like eighteen. I'm an adult no lake. Oh I have to remember to pay like rents do like any like stuff like that. I like there's just so much that like people don't really like talk about but it's also like such a struggle in general <hes> yeah and I think that like even though we live not the most normal lifestyle that also we are going going through all that kind of like I keep reiterating this but like I'm gonna yet even though yeah we live this lifestyle like yeah. There are times like I was like. Oh my God. I'm like paying rent for the first time I have to file taxes aptitude. I had no idea what I was doing. At all granted we did it. I hit like started a little younger than people no yet still like I went through it and also liquids crazy. I mean I'm twenty six he gets. I've also learned this week in that. She gets mad when I out your age. Will you know why I think is part. I used to hide manage purposely and then I realize what's going to happen when I'm like thirty. Five and people like what you're thirty five. You know what I meant that back to school theories. I came to this moment of like oh I better like just say it so people aren't shocked still young no yeah twenty-sixth good also the other day it was driving and someone said that they're on a podcast that they were twenty seven and I was like twenty seven sounds like such a good age. I'm excited for twenty but I'm also I'm not excited for twenty five. I'm a little slow twenty. Yeah yours was a year with hard but also you know late bloomer. You know that's a whole thing yeah. We we talk about this lot but like I'm twenty four twenty six. We both were like late bloomer so I think. Now when I see like nineteen year olds who are like kind of equivalent to where I am I'm like oh how I was. There was still allowed that you need to be wearing the middle that looked like a like. Oh like no you need your blue eye shadow glitter awkward phase when I it's not allowed. It's not no it's not fair. Okay Gosh let's get into it number. One overthinking the future that is such a struggle for me in general and by by myself but let alone I think twenty two because think about it how many people like go to college get a degree and then don't even touch that degree and yours think or even not only that also the fact of like. What are you going to do with your whole life like who eighteen knows what they're going to do with their whole life? I mean honest to God i. I'm trying to think of me now and me back when I was thinking at twenty two twenty or nineteen going into your twenties no at no point in my life. Have I ever been over thinker of anything. Though that's my only thing like I don't have much chicken tribute to this one even being eighteen nineteen going into college and like entering my twenties I I went to college. The whole normal route like did the dorms during the Sorority did all that plan to go to school for like psychology become all headed not at all planned out but for me wasn't even a thinking thing it just kind of felt like okay. This is what I'm supposed to do so I'm going to do that was me going to community college because I knew I couldn't afford a for years. I was like okay well. I'm just going to community college so like in that sense but when I was in it it was like no like here. This is what I'm doing. It wasn't so much over thinking the future but then I and then I did get once I transferred. I got into that school so it felt safe yeah. I guess you say you know it was never this like what's going to happen but I knew I was still going to commute from home. I knew I was living from home so like the biggest changes when I moved to Orange County probably and that was hard because like honestly we had like me. My parents and Ashley had to like put all of our income together to prove that we could pay the rent like it was like so tight like it was <music> all of us. I think we can afford it. COSIGN my first yeah they have like it was show tight but we were able to do it and that was the first like uncertainty moment I like new I got into the <hes> the school that I was going to but it was like the living situation and that was really scary but <hes> you know some people don't have their parents. I Super Lucky cosign and stuff but <hes> Ya oh my God when I think back to that I think I was. I think it was twenty. I like the fear of the unknown the unlike what if this doesn't work out I actually when I was in school wanted to transfer over to the business program before once I started getting into you to elsewhere and we're going to do but then there was this uncertainty of like well like I don't meet these qualifications. I wasn't doing that well and all these sorts of things like that did kind of. I think it's just me as a person. I don't really think about a lot of stuff to be honest and so so I don't like I'm always just like I was just GonNa work out eventually really stupid way to think this is what she says about it and actually really like this. It helps me because I think everything. The future is always going to be there every single day. You are living future that you were scared of yesterday. Everything turned out find. Didn't it just went the future. Do what it does from afar and you just enjoy the right in the present yeah. I think I'm I've gotten much better but I try to not dwell on the past and not think about the future. I'd just like do whatever's happening now and I'm like an out of sight outta undermine person so as easy but that's I know people struggle without a lot <hes> number two normal yeah yeah yeah comparing yourself to other people even taking myself out of it. I have a ton of friends who I've noticed compare this themselves to me in the way of like Oh you're in your twenties. You have a house and you have this and you have this and I'm like no no no one I understand that like I don't know how I got here but I didn't happen but I also can. I know that this isn't normal like this. Holik influence or thing or whatever and so my my biggest Nitel <unk> is I'm just like no like everyone has such a different path in stuff and I always hate when people say that to me because I'm like. I don't want you to compare yourself to me the same way that like and I'm like I'm speaking candidly bluntly in this situation tuition but specifically like having a house like especially when like new friends come over and they see they're like Oh and I'm like no no like sorry and I get so awkward when they walking because I know that it's like extra I know it's like glamorous. You know and it's not like you know which is a while. I'm rambling blink. I've never had a problem with all. My friends are really chill about everything mostly because all my friends either influencers and for my friends who like high school who are all just doing their own thing like do not just like you do girl Mike I'm GonNa do you do but as struggle that I've come up with I I personally don't really compare myself to a lot of people which is I'm very lucky but I've had problems not problems but my brother and I are super super close and he often has struggled with like I feel like I I'd like can't measure as you're up to what you're doing and I have to always remind him like Dude Mrs Non Normal. This is not normal brother sister situation like this is just like very strange but like I'm never doing anything to make you feel any less than you. Are Anything like I'm the I've tried to be the most supportive. I possibly can everything he's doing anything. It's just reminding them like everybody needs to remember. You're on your own path and like I could easily myself to you being like well. She has this many. She's a house on the house. We've compared ourselves. Even like instagram is the worst thing for it because you go you go on and you see someone in Anguilla like riding on a private jet and there's like God like I don't have that like it's so toxic to compare yourselves and I actually heard this I think on Kennedy's podcast and it was so funny it was saying that most influence or she was saying most influencers can't even afford the life they live. I can't afford to take a private love to go back to bore bore but I don't WanNa like I don't have the money to pay crazy. How we all like post like like I wrote everyone's on their own path? I didn't even know yeah. I like everything. There's a little blurb you do girlfriend. Try like how she writes on so she says people are accomplishing their own bucket lists goals and dreams in their twenties and that's a really great thing you shouldn't be keeping score though everyone's on their own path and you don't need to have this or that done by a certain age you do you girlfriend. You know what also this just came into. My mind is <hes> dating guys. I just went on Lily and Joslin the kind of it was so fun but one thing they wanted talk about was dating a lot and so they were like asking me like do you have you run into problems with dating as you're an influencer because the thing is I don't WanNa dated influencer. I'm just like not attracted to that. Also there's not many nominee straight ones so so like if I if I dated another influence or it it would be easier it will it would be just get. It's also like an entertainment. That's why a lot of actors and actresses <unk> other actors or actresses because they understand that they get it. Lifestyle understand it. It's really really rare to see someone just like end up with like an quote regular yeah not not in a bank doesn't is not an actor and there's a few actors though I forget who they are but I remember like they ended up marrying fan or something which degree someone married a bartender. I love that made a bartender I know but they're really cute. Oh Matt Damon Really I think so biggest crush on me Italian job still do but I'd like a problem that I've had with with dating as an influence or is dated some guys that are like they get weird and like condescending because they not I don't. I don't WanNa say feel like intimidated earier. I don't WanNa see inferior but like are mean but I feel like they don't feel like they're enough but like I like. I just like them as people also there's this stigma just with guys in stereotypes in general that guy should make more money and be the breadwinners the girls so I'm sure like AAC when they come and see like your place or something and they're like Oh shoot more like your account like Oh shoot you know it's like intimidating yeah and they feel like they're less than when that's not the case at all and for us. It's easy to be like what are you talking about. That stuff doesn't matter I hear here this talk once a week you wake up and I'm over there like listen there are but I get I side and I also talked about how like especially being in like I've learned this through dating and I love it because because I had to go through this to learn it a lot of guys Johnson called it the danger zone of being twenty four to twenty six. It's dangerous so I don't know about one her fate hop gun hitting. I've never watched him but oh good danger zone. These guys just get out of granted like everyone command the dangers but I totally understand and you get out of college. You Start Your first job like your real careers starting whatever you went to college for your starting it out and you're like at the bottom of the totem by the way up yeah. If you are at an agency then you are in the mail room and you have to work your way up which is totally understandable but like I get how that can make you feel like you're like small. I get it I get it so I've learned. Also you like. I need a date guys. I don't care what you do for a living. I literally do not care but I need to date. Someone who just like is secure in themselves and doesn't feel like what I do like affects them anyway like I'm doing my thing. You're doing your thing same with friendships with all of that just like people who don't compare themselves. Also I think is this is something that I heard recently too. I think in the age that we live in with social media and stuff a lot of people are advancing really fast. You Know Becoming C._E._O.'s at however young we were you know that's not normal yeah but overall like I think it's like ten thousand hours like makes you an expert at something or something like that and I was like the one thing I've done for ten thousand hours would be like youtube hours and hours and hours of editing hours and hours of this or whatever and it's like there comes a point and like I think everyone especially when they're out of college. I say college but even if you're just going into the real world at that point if you didn't go to college whatever you know you come to this point of just like wanting things fast and now or even when I see people start like youtube channels now. Why do I only have a hundred subscribers? I'm like no like it takes time like you have to put in the work. You have to put it in the hours. You can't skip all these steps to be like the number one celebrity hairstylists like you have to like start as you have to climb a ladder in some way like granted. There's Times that like you randomly become a C._E._O.. At certain age and that's amazing but you still have to put in the work in learn I mean I chuck are like lifestyle or whatever like success <hes> on luck <hes> and I've learned it's not it's a little bit of luck but it really. We like a lot of times. We'll try to downplay it. Till you know you worked your ass off. I did work my a montage of all the sleepless nights. Literary phone calls where you're just like like so upset. Oh my God oh it's so true. Yeah I feel like maybe I just kind of black that out a little bit we'll when you love what you're doing to. It doesn't feel like work so a lot of like the other day I edited my Merch Promo Video. It's AL watching and I did it and at the end of the showing Ashley in Tehran I was like it only took me like an hour. I was like no I looked at the clock. It was ten P._M.. I had been there for six hours and I was like oh but I like loved doing it and I was so into it that I literally said. It was one hour when it was six hours and I'm like how how much have we done that with our careers because we were in it. We love what we're doing stuff so that's a point that I had to make huge data to wicks dot com for supporting pretty basic with wigs you can create your very own professional shnell website. You just choose a template that you love customize it and your own text images and videos also there's hundreds of intuitive design features and you can tell your story exactly the way you want want even more for your website. You can easily start a blog lunch anomaly in store or even create an event share everything in a click on social uh-huh media and drive even more traffic to your site with S._E._O.. Tools to get found on Google wicks as all the tools. 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You and I'm like oh I actually have negative hours this week sure at it to my play instead of realizing like hey no. Can we do next week like that so simple. It's taken me literally twenty five and a half years. I'm literally watching you right now. And I'm thinking back to a year ago. Oh literally last year. This was thinking about that and I'd ever I never thought about what place it was coming from but you saying people pleasing makes oh yeah and it's funny because sometimes I'll joke like having no actually rarely have foam. It really comes down onto just like people pleasing in like letting someone down and I hate that but I think now I really learned that how it so much more healthier for me like mentally emotionally physically like to say no. I'm going to stay in sleeper like Oh. No I need to get this work done or something like that. I was talking. This is totally like it's similar but in a sense of <hes> I was talking to Dakota and he's my friend who was like a fit God. It's insane and he was saying how I was. I don't want to go to the gym today like I'm. I don't feel good. I'm really sore thumb football this up and he was like I need to be intuitive with your some in all aspects of life whether it's it's you know how you feel and he's like I would rather take a day off if I don't like he's like I wake up in the morning. If I really don't WanNa go if I don't feel well I have to be honest with myself. Who wants to go to the gym like not a lot of people? I don't want to go to the gym but he's like if I can push myself to do it. I will push myself but if I really don't want to if my body hurts if I would rather do literally anything else then I'll take time off because why waste my time half assing it then instead just giving myself up break for a day and being able to go in the next day and like kill it full full literally me. This was two weeks ago. I had a day and I was going to go to the gym. I kinda slept in a little bit which is usually the I like. Oh Oh shoot slept engine. When you need to listen to your body yeah I was just but but here's the thing I was thinking? Do I go to the gym today and my gut new. I was being lazy like I was trying to be like maybe I need to rest but my gut was telling me Alicia. You're just being lazy. Go to the JAM. You're already dressed like you. Just don't want to go and I was like Oh you're right. I made myself go and I was like not so true but then I think a few days later like I knew I was exhausted and I needed to sleep and I was like no like my health comes. I like I need sleep more than working out right now and then I did that so I would totally agree and I think through our whole fitness nutrition that we've learned from this year. That's been the number one thing is like truly listening to your body but you have to be honest with yourself because you could easily talk yourself out of it every single day. Yeah it's so true so what she says for saying not things struggle of agreeing to things all the time can be fixed by one simple word now. See I get like slightly triggered when I hear that I'm like Eilly. We you know me. I'm such a like I do. I don't do what I want. If I don't want to do something just don't but that is also bit me in the ass because sometimes you need a compromise and you can't be digital so I'm learning that too. I love that you had so much unnecessary necessary stress to your life. When you agree to plans you really aren't about hop on a No bandwagon and cut the excess stress from your life? Have you seen the mean that's like when people cancel your plan or something and you like you got all ready to go out. Whatever and it was like I'm so sorry and it's like me and it's like me and my cuddling? I wasn't gonNA show of many. It's so true though okay number four not making time for an essential self-care we'd go through this fast. We love a treat yourself kind of day. That's the biggest thing this is. I used to feel guilty for that to say no when I should be working or could be getting ahead them work or something like that to be able to take a day like yesterday I was trying to I couldn't I ended up just watching stranger things all day but like I let myself and it was fine but it's taking me so long to get there because you feel like you're being selfish <hes> but like even taking bath and doing a face mask and you don't even have to buy the nicest products but taking time for yourself so important no it's so true I'd plans either night and I guess ties and three and four but I had planned tonight and I just like didn't want to talk to anyone yeah. I just wanted to sit there and watch the keeping up with the KARDASHIANS episode khloe finds out about Jordan Woods and I laid myself on my couch and I fell slightly to watch that it was it was but you have to put yourself I and also take time for yourself yeah self-care day. There's a weird assumption that you're early. Twenties should be all work and no play because you'll never be driven again well. That's how you burn out by the time you hit your quarter life me <hes> find a day or even a few hours to tend to yourself each week because that'll make all the difference. I just remember like a break can be five seconds like a break doesn't have to be like you need a whole day to yourself can literally whatever <hes> being too proud to ask for advice I yeah you may feel like you have to do everything on your own because technically you're an adult. You're always going to need advice and guidance on things because the truth is you. I don't know everything. Put Your private aside. Don't sleep on going to your loved ones for solid advice when you need it the most I struggle with this a lot especially from older people which older people aren't necessarily always right. I agree with that but there is something like if a youtuber was just starting out on like acted like they knew a better than me. It'd be like Oh honey like I've been around for awhile like I know just to be like hey like at at some point like time is knowledge and like that's just a huge part of it to where like you just have to do it for a long time. <hes> number six leading snarky comments crusher VIBE YO I g words can hurt but don't let someone's misuse of them. Totally obliterate your mood. That's so true I we've gotten much better about this. Being influencers the amount of hateful comments we get on a daily basis. This is insane. I got one the other day because I announced my merge and I actually like started laughing and I was like I love that I can laugh at it was like why are you doing this. You just so selfish because you want people to buy US want people to buy emerge so you can buy fatty foods like I was just like why past when they're funny because it so they were all these angry emojis and I was at home on that so funny I used to laugh so hard people that would devote hate hate pages like to me or like counseling just like just hate on me. I used to be so offended and be like Oh my God like why now I think it's King hilarious. It's not much time or day like you really like. I think it's GonNa now we value time. You're like getting so many hours Dane. You'RE GONNA spend hours flatter number seven entertaining drama and all of its B s who I think it's good. It's basically saying it's fun to watch on your shows when it's like someone's real life. Khloe crayons real sure yeah cancelled culture like it really I do think is as detaching yourself recently one high school drama is so like that needs to stay in high speak. It's so funny though because I literally literally so this last night to my French came over and we were just like dish on everything happening in our lives and we were like she was telling me a situation that like we're all twenty four twenty five. She's like this is happening. I was like this is so high school. It is literally like high school the drama and she denied that same ever like laughing because at one point there is a group of friends that we had that were so dramatic and like so much happening like all within themselves. They're like three way calls and like all this shit guy and I we. She called me separately plan and she was like what's going on. I was like Chia Newin League. Do Not Care I could not care less and she was laughing. She was like I think that you and I have just gone through so much friendship drama and so much just like immaterial early like want got so much immature friendships stuff. That was just like we are so done. We're so like I don't WanNa hear any of it. We know it's going to be fine because it's always find in the end whether like his normally dramas just like so much like exaggeration on both sides and tour like overall all the main thing is never that big of a deal most the time well also watching that keeping up with the Kardashians Khloe said something and I thought it was actually very insightful and I've been trying to think about it since when that was <hes> don't make permit decisions on temporary emotion saw her on answering yeah yeah and she's talked her in her situation. It was when she was pregnant and giving birth intrude. She didn't know whether up to sit in the room or not which like I I respect her for that because that was his daughter being boring that is a permanent decision on a very not very it was a temporary emotion. I'm sure she said Oh my God. I think that's a really good way to think about things like don't yeah no don't overreact in situations like that all right guys. We're GONNA pause this up so to talk to you about hellofresh. Hello fresh as you guys know. We travel all the time living for trip literally like three days. We just got back from BITCON. Things are crazy so when things are crazy. The last thing I want to do is go to the grocery store. I just want to sit on my couch and hanging out at my home. So the best thing to do is order. Hello fresh if you don't know hellofresh it's awesome meal Kit Delivery Service well. They will literally send you the ingredients in a box to your doorstep. You don't have to leave your home. It's amazing. They have a bunch of different recipes. 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I'm not kidding. I honestly almost like crying. It was saying how like when you're when you're a kid your parents say you can do anything you put your mind to like. You can be anyone who you WANNA be until you're older and you want to come out and I was just like doc. Obviously not every single parents like that but a lot of people are like that and it's like oh I remember I sat down. That's so true like when you're young. It's like you can be going to be firemen. You can do that you want to do this. You can do that and then you get older and like a lot. I feel so thankful that my parents aren't like this but like there are so many people who know you were going to be a lawyer like no. You're going to take over the family business or whatever and it's it is really hard and I think that's something that everyone has to come to at different. When you're in your twenties you have this moment of like oh like? Do I want to do this which a lot of people follow that suit and that's fine and that's what they do that is their passion you know but like I think that's a huge struggle that a lot of people struggle with just twenties in general I mean being Asian. I was going to be a doctor. Oh my God. I didn't even like yeah like no no yeah yeah well. My mom is really cool. Both my parents were really. They're like not normal traditional Asian parents I will say that and I grew up in Orange County like you know but but I definitely had like a slight taste of it just because my parents grew up they were born and raised in Seoul South Korea like then they have very today traditional grandparents so like I kinda got a slight taste of that but I think I mean I think I felt that mostly. When I wanted to quit school and pursue you two full-time? It's like I I can do this and my dad and you did but my dad who was like a little less traditional was like yeah. Do it like whatever my mom who was in the medical field was like now you're GonNa go to school. You're going to be a doctor and what's crazy is <music>. I get it from generation side of just being able to have a stable job is like so valuable but what happ what's happened in like this generation. It's like it's always a generational allies like think of you know your grandparents in great grandparents going through the depression and stuff like for them just to have a job like going through all of that and just to be able to like have food on the table was like the best thing ever and then the them wanting their kids to go to college. The colleges such a huge thing and now Arjun rations like hey. I've seen you have your job for forty fifty years but you still weren't happy. I don't want that. I would rather travel like so. That's the Milan like it's always like a generational thing totally so I totally understand that and like like how college is you know for whatever I get it. I fully understand to the whole thing of not wanting to let your parents down. Oh my God completely even with like even to this day. I worry about like yeah. I've been able to make this my the job career. I'm able to support myself. I'm able to help my family out which is incredible but still I think about a lot of times when I am putting out content whatever platform it may be this one definitely the least priority 'cause. I really don't think about what I say but I think okay okay. My parents are going to see this. How are they going to feel about me putting this out on the Internet how early their friends going to think about? I'm a representational a pair. I think all the time to and it's so funny even the other day like customer to my mom and she was. I was like Oh sorry due to do that. She was like I hope you don't have. I just feel like you have to say sorry for that. Just because in my head I still think of like me being like the little kid and like getting in trouble and staff and she's like no. You're an adult my God I grew up saying Oh my God and my mom going. Don't use God's name in vain completely so like it's so weird but it's I think is just such such a normal thing to WanNa like please your parents you know unlike want them to be proud of you and see them exactly but <hes> if you're going through that we understand feel it feel it number nine Romo Son overbooking your schedule Queens again saying now that totally illegals who can't sit and do nothing but I'm working on it settling for a friend whom than just holding you back see this is a good one too. I what I'm thinking of like early twenties. I think I remember just being so excited to find friends. Sorry I had a fulfilling just us now. Cook yeah like I remember being so excited to like. Oh I found friends because after for me I went to the same middle school in high school so I had like the same like close friends through there and then college I did two years so I had some friends like on the cheer team and stuff but like I never had that close friends and then once I started youtube I found this community of girls and I was like Oh my Gosh I finally found you guys truly was like live or whatever which like I'm still friends with most of them now but it's crazy. How like you think like okay like these are my friends forever and not like they're necessarily holding me back but I think I let myself be held back thinking having that mindset yeah you know? I think it's doing a disservice to yourself. Yeah I think I I mean I've I hated this because I felt at one point on Youtube. I became known as like like like a friendship hopper not being able to keep friends but that's just like that. That is not an own no but I will. I wish I knew in my twenties like how normal it is to drift to drift and how rare it is to still be like the fact that I'm still friends with a Alicia my best friend from high school. That's so rare I think about that about Kaley all exactly where from high school you think that's normal so then when you go into the real world I feel like you're like Oh. My Gosh like we're all friends and then you don't realize like oh no people all the time. Do Your grant any friends from college. Still <hes> not really my mom has like they have a lot of friends from like early church as I would say okay. My Dad was like he's like best. He's with all his FRAT Bros.. Still Oh I law is like best friends with their college friends country music so to you you're probably that oh I for me yeah exactly but at the same time I also do no I'm sure at some point they drifted or they had another over some falling out reconciliation. Yeah Oh my thing for me. I have done the thing where you grasp on so tightly because you're like well the longevity thing like the the past the history the timeline like if I learned anything when I I got to L._A.. I also made some friends out here. Who I haven't literally no hard feelings for but we just like weren't going to be close friends? There's such a difference between friends close friends and best friend yeah and I think that's it's okay to be acquaintances. It's okay to have friends and I think that's early in the L._A.. Days when we first see unsold old but like when I first started going to events stuff I would genuinely thought Oh all these people are my friends yeah no Alicia. It's fine to say like yeah. We're acquaintances like we know each other like that's it matter yeah yeah. We wouldn't like have like sleepovers in like whatever you it's okay to just be like Oh yeah like their friend. I think it's funny. It's like it reminded me of when I got to college of being in L._A.. I was all my own. It didn't know anybody actually for the first like six months of college. I would only hang out with this one guy that I went to high school with and I'm like we just doing really. I didn't know anyone I'm scared but shot. Josh Kim Hope you're doing well but like it. Kinda reminded me of when I when I moved to L. A. and like you don't know anyone but in college. When I first moved there I was so oh terrified and it's actually funny? I ended up joining Sorority and then you like have this whole system of like people like a big and a little whatever and all that sort of stuff so basically who I picked as my big. I really like her. I think she's fine. I don't talk to anymore <hes> but I always looked back like once actually made my close group of college friends. Everyone was just like Oh. I never understood how you guys got paired together my big and I just because we didn't really we got along. Well Really Click Click and I think it's solely because not not that I settled but I was just like latching catching like oh my God like this girl's Nice. I'm going to be best friend like blanched on like that. Whereas once I like finally felt comfortable to be my real self in front of everybody really found people like staff is my Steph is a lifer for me in like I met her only once I was able to comfortably open up and myself and she could be her crazy? I got an next one is apologizing for things. You really shouldn't <hes> when you continuously apologize for things that you shouldn't be apologizing for it. It'll turn into a cycle. Not Apologizing doesn't make you insincere. It makes issue conscious of what is really worth your. I'm sorry so much more if you actually if you the more sparingly you haven't trying very much so to stop saying I'm sorry I say twenty seven like someone could run into me and I'm sorry I literally do the grocery store. I'm <unk>. Also I saw. This isn't one of the books I'm reading. I think it scrolls stop apologizing. I think and granted it doesn't work for every situation because there's been a few situations where I go to do and I'm like Oh. This makes no sense but replace. I'm sorry hi with thank you so terribly is saying I'm sorry I'm late so you thank you for waiting for me or if you bump into or see like if you bumped his own you can't say thank you for not yelling at me to apologize and say oh. It's totally fine. Yeah yeah yeah little things like that so there's been times when I'm like wow I want to switch my vocabulary up to like say that and say Oh thank you because then also instead of putting it down on yourself saying I'm sorry you like if someone said thank you for waiting. I would take that more sincere. 'cause I'd be like wow thank you. I did notice that I had to wait and I appreciate appreciate that like I would appreciate that Moore. I'm trying to not Sam sorry no. I think that's good yeah she did last one. I think really really good okay last one putting other people's feelings before your own. It's okay to be considerate and all not you read it. It's okay to be considered an acknowledged other people's feelings but it shouldn't be at the expense of ignoring your own keeping things all bottled up inside isn't healthy and you're not being fair to yourself. It's not selfish to put your feelings. I your feelings are valid <hes> Mhm I added the last bit myself but I mean we've talked about this countlessly on this podcast and let's say it's been a more than starting this PA- I think it's just so crazy like through this podcast. We've like worked through so many of our own problems like publicly publicly essentially but that was something that Isis struggle with immensely in case you know any grams. I'm a two with three which is the queen of literally putting everybody else before you and so I think just instinctively okay. I just do that and I'm always going to do that but there are certain times where I I used to like over extend myself over exert myself rather people where I would be left with literally no energy to do anything also. How confusing would that be for you to be like wait? Not everyone's like this. It's like why wouldn't someone do that for me. <hes> name well. That's the whole downside of being a two is like new. I was talking to someone recently. Who is it and we're like got crazy like we don't go out of our way to do things like expect it back in any anyway? Never doing it like wanting it or like never expecting it but it certainly builds up to a point where you're like okay way. Do They not love me now like how come I love them so much like they're not loving me back when other people just show late in the House your love language is a big yeah. I love languages that I think put yourself I but also I mean for a fine line for me. I think a huge part to like my past growth. This year was putting everyone else's needs before like when I think of like I'm spitting out my hand in with like all my fingers. Whatever for years have a visual thing? I'm picturing like me being the middle like my palm and like whoever it was like all these five different people meal like putting them I but especially issue when people counteract each other like when two people it's like the opposite like that. I'm spreading myself in different ways. That isn't physically possible because I'm putting someone sneeze before mind but Thir- needs like are the opposite of this other persons needs in those it was like you know what I mean so that I'm sitting there trying to do all this then I break because I'm like I can't do this yeah and it just and then also it's like am I putting your needs before mine and I don't even agree with your needs like that's a huge thing to of like wait. Why am I doing this for you? When I don't even agree with this or believe this or you would never even blink if I was the one needing your you know what I mean like different things like I'm literally not even thinking specifically go much stems from your childhood? My Gosh therapy a lot of stuff is that and I think I've actually wondered with the whole thing. I'm like. I wonder at what point I was officially three because you kind of like half of its just like who you are. It's like nature versus nurture in your adolescents like you're growing and stuff like at what point was I like like. Did something happen that helps you. It's kind of a mix of thing is I read online that being a to the reason why I'm so like mothering and link WanNa be there everybody actually stamps and I have a lot of friends that are similar to me to three and all of us have collectively come together and like talked about it and we all had like similar ish childhoods where kind of like not ness. I had a great childhood. I love my parents so much mom. If you're listening I love you but there was a large part of my childhood. where I kinda had to like raise myself in a way my mom's a two and she did also yeah? I was like a lot I did a lot of growing on my own became very independent of very young age yeah and so that is where that kicks in and like I never want anyone has gone up and say that's where I go out on my way like I'd never once you have to feel that comes from yeah but I think I'm sure all of it stems from child everybody's childhoods. Oh my God I <music>. I'm a three so it's like the over achieving one so you're the one who wants to the Goldstar with everything and you get a lot of value nucear worth through like your work and stuff which makes sense but even thinking back to elementary school like if I didn't get like an a applause or like the Goldstar the best trophy like I felt bad about myself where like I would have classmates book. Okay cool really know Pat Helper. Yes so curious what age like we fully became like that. It's instill the new from a young age yeah which Childhood But oh my God wow actually really liked this episode. I think it'll be really interesting. I would love her like our twitter or instagram like for you guys to have conversations with each other to like. Maybe we can set some like prompt questions but I would left to see people like talking about stuff like this because I think twenties is just such a hard. You know it was saying things that you didn't have to deal with the I did and like vice versa. I think it's also like everything is so like relative. <hes> it's completely relative to every single angle person individually so don't think any differently about yourself because of like how we are and we are you saying Oh yeah regardless of like you go to college. You don't go to college your influence or you're not influence there. At some point. Everyone in the world has to go is like going into their twenties and it's scary time regardless of anything. It's just this first time where you're like an adult on your own and that's scary so it's Kinda thrown out your life and toss. You're kicked your good luck bed. We lied. It's going to be so rough uh-huh. I hope you guys like this episode. Let us know <hes> any other requests for future episodes and we will talk to you really soon next week. Be Sure to keep listening to us and Apple Podcast spotify wherever you're listening and Raikkonen subscribe.
Episode 123 - The Path of Prosperity Leading You To Wisdom
"This is the universe speaking to. Hugh or The Modern Spiritual Life Coaching podcast. By the certified master life coaches, spiritual guide coach chip. Welcome souls. We now begin this episode of a transformational journey. unedited. UNSCRIPTED. And creating something from nothingness. Look. On Modern? Spiritual Life Coaching. Episode One Hundred Twenty Three Home. To the path. On spiritual podcast. Yes. Cry. But there's nothing left to say. It's been going on for a long time. When there's No. And we're saying. To. The No. beat. Forget. The Closest But this man has got and. We've been. com. Trauma. and. Only. One sits. To wait till once again. To. The man. North. Ways. Already. Now it's fun and easy to join the modern spiritual podcast mailing list directly from your phone. Just, send your email address by text message text, the word modern spiritual. To. Two, two, eight, two, eight to get started. Try it now. Send your email address by text message. Text the word modern spiritual. Two. Two, two, eight, two, eight to get started. Message, and data rates may apply. Algiers. Your host Master Certified Alchemy Coats, chip, all the modern spiritual podcasts live. The news power half hour on this Saturday afternoon with me alchemy coach chip episode one, two three. Let's say episode one, hundred, twenty, three. And we are going to go on the path of perspire verity say. The path of prosperity. This half hour and on the next. Six. EPISODE WE'RE GONNA. Continue this as. An entire learning that we're learning about that knew the truth of how to the light. Many. Philosophers or advanced. Neko to about bits and pieces. They don't tell you the truth. They always talk about the wealth money and all that but. James L. Going to weigh in his writing. That people that are in well our fear. Fear. Of having money. Just going to poverty. That's why they're going to have so much money. A lot of them have been hundred dark by stealing. It's amazing because money is not security. And we're going to learn a whole lot of truth about this and love the truth at the bill so much. And the truth. Is this so bright and I could never tell a why because then we could tell by. was always into the truth behind by version. And after this look again into money affirmation those ones or read about. Wanting to seek their money level out. and. We'll do sound healing petition after that as well. Let's get into this brand new series, the path depots therapy. This is part one on the modernist versatile podcast live the Saturday edition power half hour the path of prosperity I teams Allen. I looked around upon the world and saw that it was shadowed by sorrow. And scorched by fierce fires of suffering. And I looked for the cause. I looked around the could not find it. I looked in books Likud not find it I looked within. And found bearable because in the self made nature of that 'cause. I looked again and deeper and found the remedy. I found one law, the law of love. One life the life of adjustment to that law. One truth. The truth of o'clock mind and a quiet and obedient heart. And Dream of writing a book which had helped men and women whether rich or poor. Learn or unlearn. Worldly or unworldly to find within themselves the source of all success. All happiness all accomplishment all truth. And the dream remained with me and at last became substantial. And now I send it forth into the world on its mission of healing and blessedness. Knowing that, it cannot feel to reach the homes and hearts of those who waiting and ready to receive. James Allen. Chapter One. The lesson of evil. Unrest and pain and sorrow or the shadows of life. There is no heart in all the world that has not felt the sting of pain. No mind that has not been tossed upon the door waters of trouble. No I that has not wept the hot blinding tears of unspeakable anguish. There is no household with a great destroyers disease and death have not entered severing heart from heart and casting over all the North Pole. In the strong and apparently indestructible meshes of evil. All are more or less vast caught. And pame unhappiness and misfortune wait upon mankind. With. The object of escaping worn some way mitigating the overshadowing blue. Men and women rush blindly into a numeral devices. Pathways by which they fondly hope to enter into a happiness which will not pass away. Such are the drunkard in the Harlot. revel in sensual excitements such as the exclusive beat who shot himself out from the sorrows of the world and surrounds himself with enervating luxuries such as he who thirst for wealth. Louvain. And subordinates old things to the achievement of that object. And such are they who seek consolation in the performance of religious? Rites. And all the happiness sought seems to come and the soul four times is lulled into a sweet security and an intoxicating forgetfulness of the existence of evil. But the day of disease comes at last were some great sorrow temptation or misfortune rake suddenly in on the unfortified soul. And the fabric of its fancied happiness is torn to shreds. So over the head of every personal joy hangs the demolition sort of pain ready at any moment to fall and crush the soul of him was unprotected line which. The child grise to be a man or woman the man and woman cy for the loss felicity of childhood. The poor man chafes under the chains of poverty by which he is bound and the rich man often leaves in the fear of poverty for scours of world in search of an elusive shadow equals happiness. Sometimes, the soul, the oath that it has found a secure peace and happiness in adopting a certain religion in embracing an intellectual philosophy. Were building up in intellectual or Tuesday ideal. But some overpowering temptation roofs the religion to be an adequate or insufficient. The theoretical philosophy is found to be a useless frock. Worn a moment the idealistic statue upon which the Devil Tae has for years been laboring is shattered into fragments at his feet. Is there then no way of escape from pain and sorrow Or they're no means by which bonds of evil may be broken. His permanent happiness, secure prosperity and abiding peace the full extreme. No there is a way and I speak it with gladness by which evil can be slain forever. There is a process by which disease poverty or any adverse condition or circumstance can be put on one side never to return. There is a method by which a permanent prosperity can be secured free from all fear of the return of adversity, and there is a practice by which unbroken an unending P. simplist can be partaken of and realize. And the beginning of the way which leads to this glorious realization is requirement of a right understanding of the nature of evil. It is not sufficient to deny or ignore evil it must be understood. He does not enough to pray to God to remove the evil you must find out why is there and what lesson it has for you. It is of no avail to fret and fume and Chafe at the chains which bind you. You must know why and how you about. Therefore reader you must get outside yourself and must begin to examine and understand yourself. You must cease to be a disobedient child in the school of experience. and must begin to learn with humility and patience the lessons that are set for your edification and ultimate perfection. For Evil when rightly understood is found to be not an unlimited power principle in the universe but a passing phase of human experience and therefore becomes a teacher to those who are willing to learn. Evil is not an abstract something outside yourself. It is an experience in your own heart and by patiently examining and rectifying your heart, you will be gradually led into discovery of the origin and nature of evil, which will necessarily be followed by its complete eradication. All Evil is corrective in remedial and is therefore not permanent. It is rooted in ignorance ignorance of the true nature in relation of things. And so long as we remain in that state of ignorance, we remain subject to evil. There is no evil in the universe, which is not the result of ignorance and which would not if we were ready and willing to learn its lesson, lead us to hire wisdom and then vanish away. But men remain in evil and it does not pass away because men are not willing or prepared to learn the lesson which it came to teach them. I knew a child who every night when it's mother took it to bear ride to be allowed to play with the candle. and One night when the mother was off guard for a moment, the child took hold of the candle the inevitable result followed and the child never wished to play with candle again. By one foolish act it learned and learn perfectly the lesson of obedience. Entered into the knowledge that fire burns. And this incident is a complete illustration of the nature meaning and ultimate result of all. San Evil. As the child suffered through its own ignorance of the real nature of fire. So older children suffered through their ignorance of the real nature of the things which they weep for and strive after and which harm them when they are secured. The only difference being that in the latter case, the ignorance and evil or more deeply rooted and at skewer. Evil has always been symbolized by darkness and loot by light and hidden within the symbol is contained the perfect interpretation the reality for just as life always floods the universe and darkness is only a mere speck were shadow cast by a small body intercepting a few rays of the illimitable light. So the light of the supreme good is the positive and life giving power, which leads the universe and evil the insignificant shadow cast by the cell, the intercepts and shuts off the illuminating raise which strive for entrance. When night falls world and it's black impenetrable mantle no matter how dance the darkness. Covers but the small phase of half our little planet while the whole Universe is ablaze with living light and every soul knows that it will awake in the light in the morning. No. Then that when the dark night of sorrow pain or Misfortune Settles Down Upon Your Soul and you stumble along with weary and uncertain steps that you are merely intercepting your own personal desires between yourself and the boundless light of joy and Bliss and the door shadow that covers you is cast by non and nothing but yourself. And just as the darkness without is that a negative shadow in unreality with comes from nowhere goes to know where it has no abiding dwelling place. So the darkness within is equally a negative shadow passing over the evolving and light born soul. But I fancy. I hear someone say. Why pass through the darkness of evil at all Because by ignorance, you have chosen to do so. And because by doing so you may understand both good and evil and made the more appreciate the light by having passed through the darkness. As evil as the direct outcome of ignorance. So when the lessons of evil or fully learned ignorance passes away. And wisdom takes his place. But as a disobedient child refuses to learn its lessons in school. So, it is possible to refuse to learn the lessons of experience. Thus to remain in continual darkness and to suffer continuously referring punishments in the form of disease, disappointment and sorrow. He therefore would shake himself free of the evil which encompasses him must be willing and ready to learn. and must be prepared to undergo that disciplinary process without which no grain of wisdom were biding happiness and peace can be secured. A man may shut himself up in a dark room and denies the White. Exists. But it is everywhere without and darkness exists only in his own little room. So, you may shut out the light of truth. You may begin to pull down the walls of prejudice. So seeking an error which you have built around yourself and so let in the glorious an omnipresent light. Ernest self-examination stride to realize and not merely hold as a theory that evil is a passing phase, a self created shadow. That all your pain sorrows and misfortunes have come to you by a process of deviating absolutely perfect law have come to you because you deserve and require them. And that by I enduring and then understanding the you may be made stronger wiser nobler. When you have fully end into this position, you will be in a position to mold your all circumstances to Trans New all evil into good and we with a master hand the fabric of your destiny. One of the night or watchmen ceus. Now yet the glimmering dawn upon the mountain. Heights. The Golden Herald of the white of lights. or his sphere feet upon the hilltop set. Comedy yet to chase away the gloom and with it all the demons of the night strike yet his darting rays upon by sight. Here's how his voice, the sound of errors doom. The Morning Cometh Lover of the light even now he guilds with gold the mountains brow. Emily I see the path we're on even now is shining feet or sit toward the night. Darkness. Shall pass away. And all the things we love the darkness and that hate the light she'll disappear forever with the night. Rejoice for thus speeding herald seems. And that's one of. Course thirty by James Allen this part series on Monday at A. Morning gratitude. We'll have part two of the path to prosperity and that's all coming up. On Monday. So be sure to subscribe to desirous speed and make sure that you good who are. Are website modern spiritual podcasts, DOT COM to follow us on our. Social. Media sites can be updated and follows what's going on. Well as you can also text your email to to us a text keyword modern spiritual two. Two Eight two eight to four our our email list because we a lot of great things can happen if you don't understand why meanwhile maybe this might make you understand a little bit right here on the Monitor spiritual podcast. Now, it's fun and easy to join the modern spiritual podcast mailing list directly from your phone. Just send your email address text message text, the word modern spiritual. Two. Two, two, eight, two, eight to get started. Try it now. Send your email address by text message. Text. The word modern spiritual. Two. Two two, eight, two, eight to get started. Message and data rates may apply. And that's simple that easy. All you have to do to get onto our email. Then every time that there's something coming up like next week we got something very. Exciting. To disclose a lot of people that are going to be interested in, but we're not going to release it now will promote it on Monday morning gratitude as well. still trying to get some of the stuff and the line. Because lately here it's just been. Overwhelmed with a lot of different things or adding to their well affirmations to attract more money, and this is your approbation today member around the best way to hear these affirmations. is to wear your headphones and turn it up a notch little relaxed, and then repeat the affirmations as you hear them and do this throughout the day and at night before you go sleep so you can reprogram rewire your mind for wealth affirmations to attract all the money that you like and. That's what I like about James Alan series because he talks about all angles about being in the dark going to the lights and how you experience the dark. The shift to the light. At. This is so amazing because a lot of people when you go through your spiritual awakening or your enlightenment, they don't understand is stuck in the wealthy and they think that. They have the balance. So these series we have in our lives of the heavenly. Life that was a ten part series go to archives download those listens to those, and this is addition to it. This is going to just bring your awareness. And your higher to wisdom and that's what you WANNA be. That's how you got to get to the light because you can't get any other way. But right now let's get into these affirmations until. Monday I will talk to you guys on Monday in the morning gratitude. So just a super super fine one where abuse into around the world and good day. Good night right here in the modern spiritual podcast alive. Back and relax. For best results, please listen to this recording with your headphones daily in a quiet place where you will not be disturbed. I am prosperity prosperity. I am the source of all wealth. Each week, I allow more financial abundance abundance. I feel marvelous as a rich person. My mind is highly focused on wealth. Every day I am becoming richer and richer. I am aligned with the energy of wealth. I of prosperity. Minded. My life is a positive reflection of my thoughts. I. Am worth the money money. I am worth the money. I love money and money loves me. It's okay to love money and I do. I love the new abundant life I'm creating for myself so. The bounty of my mind is without hindrance or limit. I radiate prosperity wisdom and power. I am from thoughts of scarcity. It's okay to expect bigger and better things in my life. I find except prosperity at every turn. I allow myself spontaneously become wealthy. I accept the financial miracles. effortlessly. Acquire. More. Wealth. Vote. I deserve to enjoy success in. All. I do. Every day my dollars increase. I have enough guts to succeed. I realize my dream of being a millionaire now. Wife keeps getting better and better. Money flows into my life in an abundant way. I am prosperity prosperity. I am the source of all wealth on wealth. Each week. Allow more financial abundance to abundance. I feel marvelous as a rich person person. My mind is highly focused on wealth. Every day I am becoming richer and richer. I aligned with the energy of wealth. Prosperity Minded, now. My life is a positive reflection of my thoughts. I am worth the money money. I love money and money loves me. It's okay to love money and I do. I love the new abundant life I'm creating for myself myself. The bounty of my mind is without hindrance or limit. Own. Count. Now, it's fun and easy to join the modern spiritual podcast mailing list directly from your phone. Just send your email address by text message text the word modern spiritual. Two. Two two, eight, two, eight to get started. Try it now. Send your email address by text message. Text the word modern spiritual. Two. Two two, eight eight to get started. Message and data rates may apply.
Cheltenham Festival 2019 Ante Postcast: Big Races and Special Bets
"Right. Ten seconds to promote potty power games. Putty power games. Putty power games party games advertising. It's easy when you know, how putty power enough of the nonsense eighteen plus become talk. Oakham see this Cheltenham ANSI post cast on mighty plow during the severe by Nick, Watson unsee. I've on darn heat as well from Cutty power. This is our final ante-post cast, very sad times. Indeed, we're going to have a look back at the big feature races of the Cheltenham festival. There's been lots of water on the bridge since we last covered them. I'm also get some special bets in there as well. So nice to have a bit of variation guys. First off we're going to have a look at the Champion Hurdle. Now Darren what's the betting light for this? Understandably apples Jade now, we're very thrilled. She's going to be going for this race Llerena as far as we know she's going for this race. So how did they bet? Yes. So can't split the two at the top of the market here. Mighty jada. Mover. Dare fifteen to eight joint favorites Lorena Dennis seventy-two. Sam crow has tens sheriff's tens Meninas twelve for Donna, blue and Brian. How're fourteen 'em. Tom gals fans. Yes ports. Elaine is confirmed to be going on a sixteen to one shot, and it's a sixteen spare. Okay in some. So you're going to run in this. Where's he going to go? You're going to run a toll. Do we think we'll know in about twenty four hours time, whether he's running or not I think he's meant to a Gallup tomorrow. And we'll know after us I'd say if he goes anywhere. It's going to be the stairs. He's not sorry. He's not gonna rock up here. That's that's where we still off. We'll see an apples. Jay, do you think she can do it on the last man to win? It calls all know, not beaver do not. So who strayed wouldn't do, you know, she's got a very good chance. I just think I think there wasn't as best law season. He pulled out the fiery Mellon that form isn't worth a lot. You know, Mellon hasn't done. Great great deal four stronger, exactly in you know, Nikki. So do you want to well to when he wasn't quite right? The time. These look actually things defeat the Christmas has actually done in my favorite because he's getting lower and lower over his huddles and more. We were looting in for that from getting to be so quick for me. Sunday, Matt retelling before we made one ticket to low need one of those areas, which he didn't then lost dancing Vidana blue. So kinda just would have woken him up a little bit. I think an apple say we'll give guitar into this ratio daily probably wants a little bit further than this. She certainly stays much further than this. I think she'll get a go off decent clip. I think that will help at their nothing. You might just have too much in the Finnish. But look, you know, it's it's a split decision. Can if people fancy apples Jerry dove approver can completely see that as well. It just a personal thing of got a slight preference for beaver there. But you know, he's going to be fantastic racing. It's great that she's going for it. I agree with you forties worth Buddha. He's the one on the price is unseen any thoughts. Tactically. How do you think? Well, it depends on if somebody like Charlie Charlie race still think he might. Well, be sure just to six something in to go, go clip. They're going to go someplace, anyway, I what I think there is considering he's one twelve or fourteen hurdles he's being by three horses in history. I think is ridiculous price not said who's Jade has been beaten twice overheard. It was Joe them already won by advantage. Gorbachev. I mean, I I think he's I think he could be absolute superstar and history in the making this year. It's the brat guppy when he was trying to trying for his third Champion Hurdle. So I'm not fast about the Christmas. Those to be okay. That's really interesting darn. I wonder if you'll agree with me, and we're not bar just having to think Lorena is the most ridiculous price on what she's achieved it's going to be a whole different ballgame. She's very talented. But it'd be interesting safe. She can kite with this sort of change in race shocking price. Absolutely shocking. Probably Jesus Christ. If you're taking the seven to but her knock, don't offend anybody. I will be played. I don't know if anybody, but like there's a million and one seven seven seven to shoot to showroom and sold today. I'd say if you know if you're if you're that's all unclaimed like an exact same amount of money. Just on Buber dare you have this little bit of a teary eye. Tink. Come the day, you're going to get eleven to four on him five two to eleven to four Koby wrong. And I'm went over the correction. This is still got more to the progressive profiles coming into force. He's been operating at that level for one thousand so you can see the money coming for one of the as you can see Athas Jada and Lorena being massively over bash on the day. And I think a lot of bookmakers are going to be out to you know, to quote, the legs to dare I think I read something from one of the other smaller firms who were saying you're not to get him on the day. You may close your doors, which can kind of see her. They're coming from. You know what I mean? Because they're the opposition is probably there that he hasn't had before. But for me better than two to one fifteen Tate is a smash in price. He's a six four shot in my book. I think he's the least approve dwarfs runs after Jade's applegate's life is common Cheltenham. And that's when she was informed and ODA form the Rena has looked. She wins you insert play. But she is way too much to prove at the price for me purely from a bet and point of view Bouvard areas. A crack met at the price is. Wow. So we're all in agreement then all four of us brilliant Vidana blue probably worth quickly mentioning her beat beaver dash. She was beaten on new. A weather that wasn't an ideal prep. Darren just is there anything from big a process that you can see props getting into it quickly. Let's play. It wouldn't be too upset. My worry for her is. I think we're gonna end up getting to soft side to go to soft the way things are looking. I mean, we'd snow here. In gesture and it's very common choking down at the moment. I think shed limbs giving as well if I have to grab on at a big price. I think either global citizen our for land. I really liked Loeb's citizen. And I think you know, if that's a decent clip from front. The only worry is what happens J train go with him. And that would kind of ruin his John's book, he's a horse. I I've been Italian for and s part land as well. If it does turn into a bit of a burn down. It'd be one that Susan. I think if you fanciest the Len then I think Saudi is going to be on the list as well because they were running good races in expo. The Len was off the broader when Saudi I fell and Saudi was gonna I think Saudi is going to win that race comfortably. He's twenty two one in this race. And I'd say, you know, maybe back in without a favor all three favorites. Even some other thing that we offer to favorites here. No, not at the moment. But on the day, we definitely will. Because I can see him being off these and Jones for coming in the top four or five. No, nothing to really really will move on TD. Beltway Quemoy the champion. Chase looking like a penalty kick for out your who's going to run against him darn what does the market say. So yeah, we actually have two markets here. One would just the American actually have a nano bet without your markets that allows probably still for me. So I'd I'd to go show them both here because it's not the best bet and heating the word. So first of all the nano best regular market is out to your to men. Two foot pad six to one two so hates sore Al twelve FOX Norton sixteens, polit- luck sixteen and simply night is twenty two one. And then in the without out your market if you give me two quick seconds. So main is even money five dollars for five fifteen days sore, Al fours into so Ninety-two polit-, log sixes lady buttons, eighths, FOX Norton aids. And it's twelve Spar. I'm what a divide if he's going to turn up from the the Mullen stabilised is men going to take out your again. So again, I was at a preview ruby last week. And what he said is look as often ruby. It's of when he doesn't say what he said was they know men can't beat out. You're right. They don't know foot pad can't be out here. Just on on the. Oh, yes. Better host sorry. Say main is is a definitely seven to ten pound better than full pod. I suppose the only thing is that no matter what aspiring accident or injury men cannot beat out your under any circumstances. As far as I'm concerned, whereas would full Pat there is the slight question McAfee bounces back to them. So no, I agree with you. Completely dating men, and Tom Segawa said this is why what else your like you're talking about me and has being a supreme novice winter champion. Chase winner. Only that he was injured either one and Africa as well. So there's one of the greatest heart. You know that he's steam out yours held in many. Helen, something similar, so yeah, I look I don't blame any or no owner I wouldn't be rushing to take on out here because for me he's gonna horses. I've seen you mentioned sort of how could men would have been if you wouldn't have been around what about under. So he's going to go for the ROY Innis. I think we'll probably mentioned a bit later on. But what a legend of a horse. Yeah. And prove look to me his own earlier. This year was a career-best. I don't care that. That's absolutely phenomenal stuff like eleven years of age. You know, they have. The skeleton hanging into in Dublin zoo here, I think they should do the same with to Seoul to that. What he's made of because it's it's it's not regular horse still as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Could knock them which is a nice it really chokes down between now and next Wednesday doubt. He'd be running. Okay. He's likely to go for the rhino, which he's one before I mentioned, we'll see let's talk about I'll -til them because we know he's likely to win this barring any accidents. And he's just an obsolete superstar, isn't it is, you know, you turn the clock back to twelve months ago. I was actually on the champion chase. Oh or quite fancied him. And you know, it's often been said turning in also got Louis, you know, go. There is one Alto looked to be struggling. He was on the inside of us being script along the Niko devoid will just pulled him out it turned into the home straight. And he just devoured me and preppy Saad because there was some people who are worried about is jumping ask what do you make anything that? No, absolutely nothing to. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Is a superstar. He might well flat spot during the race because he can raise a little bit. Lazily? He switches on when he asked to in, you know, up there. He's just amazing. And you know, you could see a carbon copy of last year's race meaning him go into the last together and him just proven to strong up the hill. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if that tool I hope the, you know, he would he does in race these last years alkyl when you know, you should have a crack at the champion chase voting season. Why not and you know, it just you know, he could fool for a we knife. He could just day or just think, you know, if you just hand it to see it's easier said than done to to actually risk your horse in that. I think if you go out to your in the with pug with men with under. So I think his victory will just mean a little bit more instrumental status a little we'd better because she got the what's left of the opposition. You got running against him. If he just melt away, you could you could just have more easy than it's probably going to be anyway. And I'm Todd out. Yo, you know, he's one of my group. Yeah. I think we're watching a legend. I think we're watching something that's just incredibly special is to watch have you ever seen a horse stays up hill better than him? I don't think I have. I can't remember horses. Stays up hill the way he does is just freakish. I if they choose to go further next season, the only thing I would say against him being numbers. Man, you go through the whole is one at back to back an only Muslim on Muslim on was lost one an own I and you have to go back to fella king flagship bomb. Brooke again buds were boy, pearly, mount, etc. You know, it doesn't happen that often book. I how can you back against him in? Thing English handicapper sorted Letsie Sydney rate one hundred and seventy five right? He hasn't run since I last had this round motor of God. When you sort it out, please this is like he's the best horse in training by a country mile. How can you have them stuck on one seventy five they can stuck him in the grand avenue? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Do you know her and coming from here? Like, I know it's pedantic Novell point. They know it's scandalous like he's just not good enough. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll not notice we'll move onto the Reiner. Go through the best darn sure. Yeah. So Algiers rival main is our flight to favorite here full powder. Seventy-two? Molly is ninety two fraud on sixes road. Roach respect to sevens into solar sevens. Topnotchers seven's Cambodian album photo or eights bell sale is tens invitation on these towns, and it's eleven bear. Men's one over a similar trip. He come be so keen and his racist. Would you be worried about the occasion never thing? Like that. Could he could he could some stay on pasta up the Ronin stare for me to be honest with you like all the evidence would suggest he was beaten by played logged injury last year. Liberty flat tracking played log as a windy and offense stare, and he beasts he won the John Deere conditioner beaten shared little late. They crawled around he just hopped her for two. The Cheltenham hail on on the tires, especially on the on the old car the new car Schreider for me. That's not gonna sue them. Like, he is a classy horse and sometimes class can see through. And if they go any sorts of a here with me, and I think fraud is actually being rerouted here as well. That's not going to suit men and for me like there's not Ronald Koeman second in a champion chase, and you shouldn't be just afraid of one horse because for me, he's seven or eight pounds clear the rest of the champion chase. And that's right have them. Okay. Lots of people sort of looking at me as a horse for this race stepping back in trick. What's he does he interest? You a tool he does because unconvincing wouldn't stay ago, while didn't think he'd stay three mole too. About the argument about the argument a lot. But I just think he's he's okay around the, you know, three models, but I don't see him staying what enough of the hill an interesting. This is really interesting shape to this race. Because we not sure what's going to run yet. Min. Welcome for the champion. Chase footpath could equally do so as well. But there might be some horses that we thought we were going for the Gold Cup comeback into this fraud on his obviously one rights respect is interesting as well because no made read quite from him today, and he stopped short of declaring Rachel respect for the Gold Cup. He that's the preference at the moment that you did leave the door Joff. Rachel respects me. Good. Well, flip them, you know, to permit pro, you know, could be once further as well Troytown winner earlier in the season. So he could well flipped them with the same owner in you know, will depend on the ground Roach respect could be one of those horses. It comes back. You might be doubtful stayer gotten ivory bowl captured that comes back Monterey is another one. I think this racial seats in very well. Indeed, he likes to get out front. He's a very very good jump. Normally. He gets into a good rhythm heated red mills chase time. Timeout, one won quite comfortably an Arkansas team doing again, I like him a lot an unconvinced. He doesn't get go Cup trip. So I'll be very disappointed if and redeploy head win that way didn't go for the Ron there. And I think he's got the kind of credentials could seem to kind of looks zone. Joy when he won the race. Each is go into Lenten this rhythm out in front, and they couldn't get close to him. Under say is is interesting, but already really he was more bankrate a meeting all season, those really disappointed the conditions are in his favor. This favored ground, you know, in the soft surface, and he couldn't away belco diplo that for me always disappointed with that. And belco two floors and done a great deal for the form since then. So maybe it was just a red kind of not quite top notch display from under so overseas. Bounceback since spurred you know, like I said, he was my banker lassie's neaten quite get the job done. And you just wonder if he younger fresher legs marches to catch up with launcher attack Morley. I love this style. Yeah. You know? I'm a massive fan of Henry had choices. I either way he gets into jump is spectacular. It's on. People say he's in on the stair either three miles and yet you through the races that he's run over three miles. And I'll give you a list now goal is for the Gold Cup. I wanted to go Cup. He's beaten hosting. I've heard he's been elegant escape over hurdles and fences. He's beating step back on the three and a half, mulch ISIS and he's be album photo. He's be presenting Percy is be a value optic black Cortin wrote respect Bellshill, Ed wolf, it's like how how can you not be staying three miles. If he's beating these horses over three months, it's just three mile to get. I know I get it. But he jumped so. Well, and it's quite an average go up an lost years already say he was so he got battered by presenting Percy, but he was in front of everything else by mile. I don't get the idea that he's not three mo- chaser. Darren give us the casting vote on this with one. Jesus no fraud on I'm a big fan of frozen. Genio genuine from you know, January. I'm waiting fraud on his class, a serious abused, the very very very first polish castle. I ever did all he said I taught fraud Mogole K in a really by going cope, and I've been taking notes at stake from saints from a number stick wheel. Stick. We'll get. I don't care. Really? Not honest. Doesn't bother me. I enjoyed seeing them, you know, come to fruition this year and really improving. I I like him I like him. And he he's he's really good around Cheltenham Brian his class on him. He's you know, you can pump out in frontier Jones. Well, I think he stays better than people. Give him credit for narrow the Gocha. Gocha pool pools now. Okay. Word on the street is very secret stuff. I know he 'em. They're kind of borderline where they're going to go with them. But I think they are now kind of leaning back towards Ryanair just on the base that have planned is always on. Nick was is gone. This is what ago Cup looks like and go off looks like enough freight on prompts, isn't it not yet? Not yet. All in good time. Okay. Okay. Let's move onto the sun in stays hurdle. Then pays me park, really really likable horses. You know sort of took before him this season. Darren I'm interested in Fahim because it seems like everyone is going to be on what a site that would be. Yeah. Look down should've gotten, and I'll give you the lowdown for he now for it's end so paisley pirate. Zara thirteen Tate favors full Hannah's. No, seventy two from sixes, and he was bigger again before Apas Jada four one on the off chance. She walks up here some crow's fives. Super Sundays seven's black ops. Tens Benny to do is twelve topnotch twelve's Bacardi's fourteens Bristol fourteens. A brick and stone fourteens and it eighty sixteen bar so full heen. They are delighted with him down and Willie's. He is homing. Apparently, he's absolutely lighten the place, and we have seen serious cash from over the last week or ten days, they seemingly the can't CNB's they think he's back to the fallen of old and the trip and the tracker going to suit. Stays this trip. He stays. Yeah. He stays definitely stays to be honest with you. I think he was he's more of a state or any ever was a two molar. He was just dot gov. He was able to get around us like for me. If you ask me my banker at the meeting and pays I I put him up. We covered the race. I think it was entitled to one earlier on in the year. I think he is potentially like class reminds me of taste, the crack except he's actually good and. I am. I I like Jesus I there's too harsh. They don't wanna see show up here against pays American. That's falling and Sam grow because they're too. That would make me nervous. I'm not frayed the notice and the race. I don't think I need to run any good. I'm divides coming from Willie's regarding fall heen are extremely strong. And thank God. He's still with us after that full last time, which you know, how Mahatma mouth for a second there behind was Jade, would've go anywhere nearer. Maybe who knows but interesting nonetheless borders site that would be for him storming clear in the states. I'd love that. When Trump would lock it. Most talking about him already found him. You no could say I can see it differently. You know, kind of think again in this race because all being you know, Kane on pen hill Windsor, obviously missing the race now. So it's kinda think twice about it. Probably would be with down. So it would pay see park. He's very surprised me this. He's not fancied him quietly to run a big race in the L. But that last season news awful, an author. We'll maybe just the horse wrong. But you know, you started off in handicap ain't Aintree in one that and he's just gone from strength to strengthen what he finds after broil, you know, these kind of staying races a like it when the whole snide Kim, you know, what he finds the finish of these. He often, you know, three quarters of the way through the race will be going better than some of the others. But the end product from the last line is always really really strong an approved at Chilton's, you know, no, no issue for him last time out. So you take slides of boxes, and you know, we're talking about Lauder as being the the con of fairytale result. Cheltenham acoustic would be, but this would be as well food, you know, for Andrew he's obviously point as well. So you know, that this would be a fantastic result too. Big up for him. But also great for 'em, Lavelle and income. Andre Gemmell is well have a big winner. Anthony or us a horrible price. I I'm sorry. I have Dave my lovely little spills. Congo. You to be fair. He's been really toughest. He's an he's improvable through the season. But it goes stuff that I saw in the abbot Bartlett last year and he's beaten west approach twice. I mean, what's the pro is what one from fifteen over hurdles, and is was he fifteen to thirteen to eight for for the thirteen head. I call me back that I I can't be having that all I can just jump in. You mentioned the abbot Bala. I actually didn't kill brainstorm. He's a horse. I'm really love. I think he could go big price. Pretty wants about seventeen miles doesn't easy ways. He's he's really good. Yeah. Probably selling it. He does he's probably gonna be a national hose at some stage. I think this race could be a bit more open than maybe it's looking I would love to see for him. When this economy back in the price. I would love to see him win it super Sunday should be running in this after coming seconds Penn hill last year. Based on that had a great John's. Mccracken cracker behind presenting Percy. I if you want something that's completely out there left field selection. It's up the other day Palisades is in this. Right. Yeah. I know you. That noise. Yeah. Yeah. Put this is he's really quite interesting. I've heard it was he Pete's. He picked on vegan by answer Moyle and unveil Egan's. Quite like, you have a ball. He's beating jet Scoppetta blow by blow to shoot in Geneva. I've heard it was an was sent off eleven to four five with ghetto bird Punchestown, knee one ROY Lasco over. I've I've a summer and then bombed out in the car Cup and he's forty so one in the race in I well Nivola now each way because if he turns up he's one hundred and seven on the flat. He might be a price. If you see something that's not going to be sure. Okay. That's very interesting darn anything quickly to add before we move onto the Cheltenham Gold Cup. Just big fan of paisley park. And I am on a decent price. So I'd love to see him do the business. So the feature of the whole meeting is the Cheltenham Gold Cup. Plunders oboe believes come in for quite a lot support in recent days. How do they bet now darn so Paul Nicholls comments have have caused a swell of support for his oboe? And he is no to join favors with present Percy from fives native river, then is eleven to two Campbell is nine's belt hilas tens might bite is tens from sixteen again after some positive trainer Commons. Lately. I've been photos twelve's tesla crackers fourteens on fly Thompson. Cal selection is sixteen from fourteen earlier on in the year fraud on a sixteenth mon- sixteen and it is twenty spare fabulous. Let's start off with presenting Percy, then how to spin around Galway interestingly not yet run over fences this season. What see what that worry? No, not really. I mean, the is unorthodox, but he was unorthodox last season to really on unchartered route to the ours Abe, it didn't stop him winning the arse. I anyone easily. So I'm sure just got design, you know, go away last time out. So that doesn't really bother me could use the wouldn't it? Yeah. You know, I'm looking at something that's not bigger price themself. But would all be surprised if presenting personally one, no, not all? And what do you think? I'm sorry. I think I think he's the best source in this race the choisir. The concern is is that he hasn't seen offense in twelve months on a on a on a prophet, you know, in in prepa rice, but the the hood a win was actually quite impressive. I thought he was really that day after so long enough. Stays when he would buy them. All. And in terms of was seven two two. I like Cohn find three or four horses to beat him. That's the problem. I'm having I keep looking at this market and trying to find something to beat him. And I just I'm struggling. You're struggling, okay. Term presenting Percy's sort of got this reputation hours on people's wholesome. Sure. You know, be a great great scenes for many in Orland if he were to to win certainly not mine anywhere. I'm going to pour cold water here. Normally do with the Irish horse is normally defend them two. We Brett Bush. I don't see how you can possibly not be very very concerned about him. Not having spent over fences like, I don't care who trains us, generally. Right fernow. Pat, Kelly's had a great record in recent years in the years before that he and he trained eight winters in eleven years. He wasn't a genius. Then nobody's gonna say impact. How these genes that stage? Look Schori's a nice guy. And I'm sure he knows what he's doing Bush. I think you have to be concerned with the fact he hasn't had it's been overheard was as well as then the only time an present Percy has won against open company over fences outside of outside handicap company. Yeah. Get on. He was getting seven pounds that day. Yeah. I know it will parent if it was two and a half mile jab like it, didn't you didn't sort of look at the race thing off that was three miles presenting was gonna win. Yes. Sherwood you because a slow is not borders. But he was an Irish national, do you know, what I'm saying you have to take it into context for me. He's just a rotten not a rotten price. He's after drifting has been personally, I think you could get ninety two five to one hundred eight very easily because I think client is going to be the over bet horse. If you're getting that price in the days in each way show. Yes. For me. I I can't have I I was massively against them last year. I laid him to a few people for the last year, and I'm paid for that. Are you know, not not not for me at this stage? I mean pull Nichols. He's been there and donate in go cups plan design, Abby he's really brought him to the bow this season. I sense. He's even surprised him in recent weeks with how the confidence is growing behind him. He was impressive last time. Taryn would he be all selection? Would you be looking at something a bigger price? I actually do fancy one of the bigger price Bush when we covered the Volkov you're on the air, this this is my selection news, whatever price who wants at that stage. Like, he's just improved beyond all recognition this year. And you know, while you can be cynical about that improvement. I think there's enough there to back it up. You know, what I mean, there's enough kind of there's no firm that the deformed back it up on a massive fan of him. And he jumps brilliantly travels brilliantly the one small concern yet. Yeah. Dot dot is obviously a huge concern. And as well, easy an out and out stare. I don't know does he do anything in front probably not either. So he's going to be a tricky issue for Harry Cobb. Does that young knows what he's at? So I wouldn't concern me. Okay. What do you make of the others down the betting Kemboi bells hill, horses, they seem to be reaching their peak? I'm sound good to you Kemboi. I have a bit of an issue with what an old she's IVA three malls, solid. What you go through the list, and I was looking at twelve months ago. So it might be a bit more update up-to-date than than I've lost twelve months. But like you go through the list of the horses, Detroit three malls. Just don't get there. I think obviously on the Lexus. Sorry. It's not like us. And he got softly that. They he it was founded to me bit. Fair play each state, the three malls there. But I would have a concern over three it is especially undulated track late show. I I would be having an issue with that those who it was really nice like likable horse in on a you love him. Then you you you you found him. Conferred to Mike by the IRS I zero from. Of Cheltenham, five offenses. I think it was unfancied. So that'd be the concern for me there on talk about Bellevue. You said there's two ways of looking at Bellshill he's from three of the festival which instantly would put you off. But you look at there's another way of looking at it. The first of those was in the bumper when you finish mitt division. Wasn't disgraced love seat didn't win. But it's a very very hard race to win the bumper young horses out forgive him that the next race. He ran in Algiers supreme novices hurdle. Now, what we know about bill's hill now is the he obviously didn't have a prayer in using the wrong race. He should never been running against Al that was a very very honk lawsuit. Pre filled finished down the field in on sewing. Not surprised by that the loss. Run was much. Better you finish third in yards say on Boynton whisper in that really Matt finish between the two. Still he had we had Airmont cover for my start racy set. Well, nothing the point about the run is carrying on the back of really really bad for Leopardstown where he fell the last and it was a real cruncher. I surprised connections even random in the our say so friends who've runners encouraging easy did on I'm taking that as a positive not just singles is coming of age. I mean, he was good in the Bobi last year. He was running all over them in the Irish national of of weight and looked like hosing up in that something weird happened. The last two is going to fluorescent jacket apparently something put him off spooked him and he took off the field. But you still don't even go beaten about half length of the finish. And then a couple of weeks off to that. He he won a great one. So he's obviously tough and not just saying that's been the method. So how would he's trained him this season because he could have he was prominent in the betting for the king Georgia Kempson Christmas, which he could have conceivably gone full. But what he's giving him two runs at Leopardstown. And I'm sure that's just to convince himself in for connections to convince themselves. It does go left-handed, obviously. One a great one last time out beating Roach respect. Okay. So, you know, there's a lot withdrawals on the day because the ground both Nestl plus with belts because he and anything if it soft and testing he will cope with that. Neil will stay if he's good. He worked on either an interesting the evidence is the horses come of age. And I think he's one five or six grade ones now over in bumpers hurdles over fences, eastern left and right handed. He's nine years of age. He's coming into this race in the peak of condition. I think he's got a great Johnson. I think just ignore those. I he runs a Cheltenham because they weren't in the ROY racist. Or he's train is never won the right anyway before we move on I to give a mention to native river because he won the race last year. And she mentioned the top of the the sort of segment Darren might boy is been coming for money slightly after a positive bulletin from NICKY Henderson. What do you make of one of those to hit in the frame? Yeah. Do you know something I ain't gonna end up back might by? I'd say I'm gonna kick myself far when I know I don't I actually don't do. You know, what I love a fucking good still. That's all I like know. I don't give don't care about the money side of it. I've actually over there, Dan. I know I'm just going to back them for the crack 'em. I already have a bet in the race in the shape of shattered loaf 'em who I think. Yes. Definitely gonna run. I think hot. She needs is a an attritional test. It just open they cut you got in the he last year, they went off hard and the ground was rotten. I think the harder goal in the Firday go the better like she could she's a murder could end up in the Grand National to be honest with Joey ten county how I'm Gordon every time you ask ordinarily has positive things to say about like, you know, if you look at reform this year, right? The krone down ROY was beaten over to my treehouse Norfolk, and that's not bad for him. The crow Punchestown John Durkan, two and a half months. Beaten by men who is a quick horse dot race persona S a Christmas I came away. One. Can we didn't win a remote chest outweigh that day? He went one way to sprint. They crawled around and he quickened away from the front and one of the requirement of the retirement from all like dot formed from. Just nothing went right? She came Tanta like she was trapped by the whole day. The whole way made a bad mistake at the wrong time. It's just half for toll like you need. They go quick. And in a goal copen. That's what she needs. She's Chiba doing from me the price. I think twenty as is more than generous. So that's it for all review of the big races at the Cheltenham festival in. If you haven't already get your hands on one of these guides. It's now available in all good news agents. I'm online outracing postal com forward slash shop. Plenty of good analysis in here and race by race guards to so get your hands on one of these before it's too late friends or maybe more earn twenty quid free bed for every friend who refer to Patty power, thanks to our friends with benefits program. Log into your party power count and share your referral link to get started terms and conditions apply to plus become aware dot org. Welcome back to this Cheltenham ante-post Gus now it's time for Cheltenham festival special bets section first off. Let's start with the top jockey. How to potty power bell on this one Darren? Yes. So naturally enough. And we obviously have ruby in as our favorite for this. He's generally does go on win at every year. So he's our fight to to favor, which is a bigger price. And he will be most years. Barry Garrity is to three Jack Kennedy's ninety two as as Davy Russell, Paul tone understands Nico Joinville list hands, and it is twelve bar. It's not about Davey route nine to two. He writes, shown them, really. Well, just any any any thoughts on this? Would you be getting stuck into one? Not generally something I power to cash now on which is highly unusual for me. But if I had to pick one at a price, Mark Walsh is in their twelve to one hundred eighty eight say, he'll he'll he'll get access to a few more JP's than people might think. Because it's it's a strange, no fraud writing arrangement there at the moment. I don't think anyone fully knows what's going on. And he can have a few inches. Definitely in the handicaps as well. I mean, obviously Cheltenham is really well she's playground. But Willie sort of made it clear that he wants to win the championship this season. So he's. Bounced get plenty of rides as well. Yeah. Absolutely. Like, it's at Rubio sleep get first pick. On. I need them a Cheltenham given that it won't affect the Irish championship. Book Rubio's cutting gone away from writing and handicaps and still over the last year. She's very selective to extend his career, which you can you can fully understand. So he is as was a bigger price on what you have to remember ruby is he won't get any outside rights or you won't take any asserts not they won't get them. He won't take on the OT. Right. It'd be William Willie only or as Mark Walsh and Barry interests and will have access to Allah j peas and maybe a couple of extra. Yeah. That's true. We'll see who's your favorite jockey to follow around Shelton. Go. Don't. Listen to the old Steine wondering if I could work in angle, I'm not sure there is one really. I mean, if you go from the co two Bougainville at ten to one thing darned said, you pretty much know that he's won the Aleppo and the rest of the jockeys already because you'll say that's something. I mean, that's all I used to do that with Tom que- big meetings. Could when you know when you read frankly, because he always used to keep you, you know, one on the board guaranteed, and obviously he'll he's gonna rod a lot for Henderson in Henderson. You know, I know he's being held up a bit by the flu. But he you know, he's gonna be throwing a low of Arison. Good ariza's. Well, so you know, the point was. Point one they'll pretty much on on the rest of the tune in his Angeles breath as well now that'd be up. So you know, if he's got to in the bag already he might only need to get more to to win. It say ten to one of the interesting. That's that's about as much could come up with on that I was thinking out of the same thing is pretty fair market. Nico stands out with. Okay. Let's try top train them Nichols. Quite a few people have been putting cash on him following this illustrious period, haven't they Darren? Yeah, he's still tend to one shot. So we've Gordon is our fight for favors. Nikki is six two four Willie Mullins attended tree polished hands, which does look big Joseph brain, then it's twenty minutes. Whatever you like after that thing with Paul is obviously been mopping-up these races on the Saturdays. But the children festival is a different ball game isn't in. I think lots of trainers have got maybe more efficient. He's obviously got plan zone horses like that. But who knows what see top trainer, I wouldn't go beyond the obvious here. I mean, you know, you kind of got monotonous Bill share he's gigging. Town is coming into the winners enclosure winning race after race. And obviously, they bring a huge contingent over Gordon idiot trains, vast amount of those two, and he's FOX favorite for a reason. I wouldn't be looking beyond the obvious. And so good point you make about Nichols. He's brilliant placings horses, CDs, we can handicaps Trump's invaluable in ROY showed again last weekend. I could use it do not. But again, the Chilton festival is another another level up. Just thinking I mean when was the last time if you go back three or four years, would you said Willie Mullins would be ten one hundred thirty top trainer at Cheltenham anytime soon. You'll be you think. You think? He's sending over the sheer released for good. It hasn't been a Berlin season for he's from for by his standards, which are very very high is Bryn pretty average. But yeah, I'd say, you know, I think go Nettie forty wins. It. What about top owner Walt to mention gigs down house stood there bounce between the top of the list star? Yes, we actually only have two priced up at the moment money. It's JP Jagan tone two to five JP thirteen chicken stone. Like, if you look past years, you know, look, Richie doesn't have the same influence as they used to have the Rooney's have only recently called off their boycott of shell them. So on me knows what their team is like Isaac nurse. I was explained like the haven't got Joe Scott the firepower for it. I think it is a two horse race. After prices. I'm not going to have a Bali the way go onto my head acquisition of the bigger price. It Jagan stone. But not in any way competent will probably agree with you on that one much against town. Lots in agreement JP's probably the best. Oh me. Oh me. A bit of a difference was thinking about what's either? Best arm your horse. He's had for a long time. And he's looks ABC's. God JP probably gonna wear those. Giggens down thirteen to eight definitely. Yeah. Think there's a big too big a differential I've been agreement. Darren just run us through the other specialists that you've got just cope with them here. We've added in a five-year-old's win the Carl cope after Anthony's in passionately yesterday on how well they do in it. That's eleven to as Joseph O'Brien big open common trainer to train three. Or more winners is eleven to four NICKY Henderson and J P D that three is partnership there nine to four to be top trainer. Top owner double and then habit. Buffoni won the Rooney's to own a winner. A chat in the mid seven four. Okay. What would be catching your eye of any of them? Those I suppose the Henderson JP want relate back boat that would look tasty. Like if hinders if Nikki win and the top trainers JP is probably going to be top owner as well. Five win the car Copenhagen haven't as not much cheuse indata wouldn't say Joseph Brian three or more winners is potentially interesting 'cause we talk with people. Yeah. That would like oh sorry. If Hillary was in this that that's a that's sixty four shots in order means he's he he's he's a massive influence our put, you know, we're talking about being one. You can only say Joseph is on the triumph whichever one a Hayes wins it. So he only has to go from there. That's very true. Very early point any thoughts on this special waltzing. Nine given given the one store like nico- tens Giggens town top. Yeah. Thickness do me. I think jobs are really high. Roy is is not be interested in eleven afford. I think that's about Roy's for, you know. He's got some decent handicaps as well. Like. Yeah. And finally Darren the Cup that everyone cares. Most about the press break-up come on. What are the else? Yes. So I'm going to be shot for saying this bullshit, I actually kinda to fencing and this year, we're we're we have a little bit eat more, even so I wrote under four to five Great Britain or five to four and the Tel you sevens. Great Britain or as big as seven to four. Are you make that to be a bit? I don't know. I think we have a price rights. I think four to five four piece of the tell you. It's Evans is fair enough. Probably even have it evens a piece in the Thais Evans. Yeah. I just think Ireland. We haven't got the same firepower this year as we had we've a few windy ish. Lookin favorites like, you know, you're talking to somebody short or price ones presenting Percy, I'm against him Apas jacomb against her Lorena against her. You know main again is is coming up to yourself. You've are leading lights are up against us. And look we probably up handicaps as we usually do both. I I'd say England are being enough owed price or Great Britain. I showed say at seven seventy four. Ah elsewhere Bush, whatever your whatever takes Fonsi. Here's well any tolls. Hopefully, we can have a bit of a stronger Bibit of a stronger hopefully Ofri knock like Jason though. I don't want you to just. And I'm just I just think he's I think he's a bash. Well, I'm saying hopefully to use. Anyway, I think you know, we've got a better chance and in recent years, we looks that way. Is in the British rule. The the supreme and the like, but you know, this mulkey doesn't really took them only fancy if fo. But. Yeah, you know, Britain's go a challenge. But if you bit some pieces even. So we've come to the end of our final ante-post costs show. Now, it's time for the moment of truth. We want your Cheltenham nap. This will be darned shoes, who's your best bet the festival how long have you? Gosh. Hey, this is the race. We didn't get right into Culver might not devote festival is not what I am in the protests. So Bitta back story on this lot. He was with aging Caitlyn overnight or for a while Ritchie rat he was Robbie McNamara. I mean, finally find themselves over ending them with Dan skeleton, and he's just improved inside since. So he wanna raise you talks that are to start off what he was sent off short for naturally enough. And he just he wouldn't anyone by a hate. But he gave it was gives stone to the second place. And all he did was eight Lynn front. He came there completely on the snap. So after that any went to Cheltenham any fell three hours when common to win his race. I don't care what anyone says he was winning that day went to you'd huckster then and be Orlando bloom, which is obviously decent forum. It's worked out. All right. But what's really caught my eye is? His is thrown at work. So he was out the back in a pretends trial at the hallway he was still last turnover home in a very very very slowly run race, like the first and seconds, and led the hallway mortgage not is a sharp track is not that long Ronin. I'm he the way he finished his race. There makes me think that a stiffer tracking stronger pace going to suit it's worked out perfectly. He's left in America. One thirty five which gets him in off a lovely race. The more. I go back to this race the more convinced them he this. This has been the plan for him that he wins. I'd say this. This is my man by the whole fast them tip. No way out of more winter, and I'm going to have a little bit more on as well. I love him. Skelton? We know what it takes to him on these Cheltenham handicaps watc-. He's your best festival y'all gonna go for the full motor Bollywood. He Merlin's his horse been impressed with him over fences this season just touched off. I I'm out on news eve made amends last time. I think it was a nice won't quite nicely. Erections disc Rome were to give him a race. I think probably would would one whatever if if this Karonga stood up they're going to meet again in full model. So we'll find out, but he's really really well, Iran. Well in elbow bought last season. I think he was fourth and. Yeah, okay. It was you know, he's a little bit of UK corral who looks like being favourite for this race Derrick O'Connor rides actually think OK corral would have a good Johnson. The our say if they if they made a late switch of not convinced he wants four miles. I think Bollywood does he's a very strong stare is jumpings being very sound so far and Woody Mullins Patrick millions. They they win the race. It would rather nothing. They could do again. These custody pitch you against each of the fight who show up this garage. This Kerama notice this whole screwed ex patriot. Marie Holden ran in the two thousand seventeen Troy come forth in behind deputies. So he was the hurdle last year on the EP disc Rama who came second in describing came second in the Martin Pipe. This lot is a really really good horse. I mean, I really like this loud. He ended up bombing out towards the end the last season, Mr. festival. It wasn't quite right. He's going chase in this year. Two and a half the first few times running some decent races. Needed iran. He clearly wasn't fit. And then he host up over is up one over two miles. He's off a one hundred forty two over -fensive one hundred forty five overheard. He's probably gonna go to the novice handicap chase. And I like this lab a lot. So whichever rice he goes to he's in the Martin Pipe in the coral Cup as well. So Emily, get back. But where every tons off. I'm back in each way. He's going to be a big price strong, strong leads. Thanks that brings us to the end of the show on our final anti pace cast bullets. We will be planning to do some more head of the biggest summer meets say keep your eye out for those. And of course, brief we'll be back on Friday to cover. The weekend's action. You have a profitable weekend on indeed Kelvin festival. I'm facing. Here at potty power with the home of the money back special. With some incredible offers every single week check out the website or app today. Terms and conditions apply. Eighteen plus begun dot org.
How Algerians Ousted Bouteflika
"From foreign policy. I'm Sarah wild Mun. And this is first person this week upheaval Algieria. The north African country of ALgeria has received far less attention in recent years than its neighbors, Libyan to mesia that's mainly because for the last two decades, the country has been relatively stable under the leadership of Abdelaziz Bouteflika all that change earlier this year and February Elgin's took to the streets demanding leadership. What if we could now in his eighties had served four terms and was up for fifth peace ever to stroke several years ago and had barely been seen in public since. In the meantime, Algierians had grown tired of the click that runs the country a mix of military officers business, eat and the ruling National Liberation Front. Party known as the F L N the winter protests continued well into the spring remaining peaceful throughout that was deliberate. Algerians had lived remastered civil war in the nineteen nineties in which some two hundred thousand lost their lives. They call it. The black decade what came to be known as Jerry is black decade began in one thousand nine hundred ninety two with a military coup which prevented the opposition. Islam acceleration front from winning second round of what was meant to be the country's first democratic election. The war that British brought some change delta area on April. Second Budi flick agreed to step down for the future remains uncertain is the departure of beautifully Kerr enough. To satisfy Jerry ins a lot of demonstrators signaled that don't just want him out. They want to overhaul the entire power structure Dalia Ghanem yazbek is a resident scholar at the Carnegie Middle East center Beirut. She grew up in jury during the black decade and returned her country earlier this year to take part in the protests. She's our guest this week. Dahlia thank you for making the time today to speak. We'll get into the reason protests and the decision for Abdelaziz flick to leave office. But before we do I watch I wanna go back a little bit. And I wanna talk a bit about the decade that I'll call the black decade. Why was a called the when it was called the block decayed, but some people also call it, the red the decayed in the sense that it is red as the blood that has been shed. So it is one of the most violent pages of Julian history of modern Algieria. So basically in nineteen Ninety-one, you know, Julia was on the bring in the sense that Islam is party that was called the back, then reform Islamic said, which is in English, the salvation Islamic Front was on the verge of winning the legisla. Of elections and the military interrupted the electoral process and the first calls for Jihadism between quotes, and for violence have been launched and then the circle of violence started the Jihadist groups mushroomed in the country with the most prominent one being the armed Islamic group of the GI, and the entire society was witnessing adorable circle of violence. They started with intellectuals they started killing intellectuals journalists prophecies teachers, and then they continued with a civil servants my father being the co director of a very famous company in geria- estate company has been threatened several times. My mother was very, you know, sick ler woman. She wasn't wearing the veil. She never did. As a matter of fact, and she was the owner. More of an art gallery. And in the conception of these extremists art was forbidden haram. So my mother was also targeted we had to move civil time. So it was very very difficult times for us. You know, I've seen people dying in front of me. I lost friends at university because university bus exploded fumigators from university. So it was really a terrible time. It was a civil war Algierians were killing Algerians the security forces also made terrible mistakes at the beginning of the conflict because the indiscriminate violence of the security forces led to violent radicalization of many people people who had nothing to do with Islamist. As a matter of fact, so talk to me about the powerful sense of fear that there was in the street. Yes. Well, that's the exact sense of terrorism. It tear. Terrorize you to the extent that you are terrorized to leave. You don't know whether you are going to live or no, I remember my father used to wake up get in the car and look at us and say, well, as far which means see you in the evening, but we were never sure because I always had this Luke that maybe he would never come back. And it was actually the fact for us as well. Because when we started I was back then at high school, and they were also targeting young students in high school because they weren't wearing a veil. Fortunately, we were leaving in a pretty good Gillian suburb kind of gated community. If I may say even gated communities were not protected and everybody was targeted. You know, we in there is we wear this kind of intelligence francophone intelligence. We were cultural threat, we were an economic threat. And this is how they. Actually on tigon is the Algierian society, and they divided it. So you know, it is what we call in sociology the other uttering process. So there is the asks the pure community, the good Muslims, the good believers, the people who want the Islamic state, and there is them, and I belong to them with my entire family, which was a glee and dirty and wasn't Muslim enough. Actually, the entire society was seen as a who'd community, which means an impious community and actually the GI excommunicated the entire Algerian community by nineteen Ninety-six nineteen ninety-five and remind us the J stands for aja stands for a group. Islam ick army, which means in English the armed Islamic group. It was one of the most prominent group back then actually even I s talked about it in one of its magazine called the, Debbie. And they said I a- said about the where the jury in brothers failed. We are not going to fail because actually the J did back then what I will do twenty years later, meaning they liberated sorry between coats entire villages and cities by liberated. I mean, they, you know, they took power in these cities they had their own logistic. They had their own court. They had everything it was like a parallel of state and people follow them at the beginning. Because either they were scared or because they had no choice or because they believed in the cause. So entire villages in the coastal area of Assyria followed the group because they believed in the but also because they were fed up with corruption with how the state was running things. So they've seen the GI as. The savior and tell me we're their protests in the street of secularists of the intelligentsia's, you call yourselves were there protests against the transition the country was going through. Yes. Of course. And I remember my mother used to take me at the beginning to these protests. You know, when we would find everyone, you know, stickler is feminist Burberry's before and they were all together they took up to the street saying notaries have meaning no tutors. We don't want Assyria to be governed by these extremists. But then the Jihadist group started to target protests by putting bombs into public space and Benny actually people died during the protest, we still have, you know, archives about that. So I remember even back, then my mother stopped going to these protests because it became you know, very unders to do. So the government is perceived to have won this. A war. But at enormous cost two hundred thousand civilians were killed thousands went missing. And then there was an amnesty for Islamic militants in two thousand five pack that actually was created under put flick, what do utterance feel about the pack of amnesty? Well to be very clear with flip is seen as the architect of face. It's stupid. He didn't initiate the process. It is actually presently means well who initiated the peace process in nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety five when he come up with this idea, cordless Lacombe, code Seville, which means the Seville concord in which he offered an amnesty to some Jihadist against of course, them laying down their their weapons and under certain conditions. And of course, when delays put car came into power in nineteen ninety nine he continued the process and then in two thousand five the charter for national reconciliation was voted in the refer. Ryndam however, back then there was a big chunk of society compose, notably by the victims of terrorism and the victims of the families of these appeared who said no to this charter for them, the charter was totally unfair for several reasons, but the first reason because within the charter there was a category created that was called the category of victims of terrorism and within this category. The state put the victims of terrorism, but also the Jihadist themselves as being victims of terrorism. So for the families of victims of terrorism, it was a shame for them to be put in the same categories as those of the perpetrators. So they didn't like this idea. Many people said no, we pay the hefty prize. We are not going to be okay with this idea of forgiving everyone. But to be perfectly. Objective. I think back then the Algierian state was put in a terrible position. And after ten years of civil war. The only solution was to have, you know, a reconciliation process. And you know, it was also a way to have transitional Justice in. Fortunately, there was no transitional Justice, and the sense that, you know, for instance, in Rwanda after the genocide they put in place, what they call the Gaza, which was like local trip panels in which the perpetrators and the victims sit together and talk to each other. I think Algierian many Algerian wanted to have truth. What happened to our kids? What happened to our son's where they are? Tell us the truth. We want to talk to the perpetrators we want to know them. What visions what did they do that? And there were no such thing. So it was a clean slate and many people refused that idea however on the ground according to. Official numbers. Of course, you know, fifteen Townsend jihadists where we have billeted within the jury in society and all these people laid down their weapon reintegrated society. And as I keep saying, you know as an analyst as appear in political science it works also for today. You know, you cannot say to all those jihadis who laid down their weapon, we are just going to put you in jail, and you are going to rot there, you need to find ways to rehabilitate them in their society, you need to find way, maybe not to forgive them entirely. But to offer them different opportunities. So they want to go back to that path. Again, it is not a perfect reconciliation. But I think it had many positive impacts in. Andrea Diallo energy, leave L geria- and why I left Julian two thousand five I want. To pursue a PHD before that master, and then appear in political science in France. And then I lived few years in Peres where pursued my PHD in political science, then I leave the year in Massachusetts at Williams College when I was teaching, and then you know, I wanted to come back to geria- but life decided that it will be different for me. And I joined Carnegie right after my PHD defense, and I've been with the Carnegie Middle East center in Beirut since two thousand thirteen let's bring us to the present. So beginning in February Dreyer's undergone waves of protests, and you there how do these participant? Well, to be perfectly honest when they began in February twenty-second, I think the same night I was invited by Hans van cut to analyze the situation. And I have to say that back then I didn't think that it is going to be that big. And I remember saying to. Myself once a how okay maybe this time, it's different and on the twenty third eyeball my ticket. And I went to Algiers I was there on the twenty fourth. And once I marched with the student on the twenty six I felt that. Yes, this is different. This is a different energy. This is a unique sequence of event that we are witnessing. And then I thought this is only the student. Let us wait for the big Friday March, and it was much I and I can tell you I participated to the demonstration as an analyst as an observer, but also with my heart, and my identity as an Julian citizen, and there was so much emotion on March first there was so much intensity. I remember, you know, when we met the first police Bereket people standing up face to face with the police rising up their arms and starting chant. Sylvia's in mea, which means peaceful peaceful. And then they started chanting yellow police Madisha, which means all police do not hit me do not do bad our wrong with me. And I remember there was a minute when there was tousands of people in the street. I don't know how they reached a point where they all chanted customer, which is the national anthem and people just broken tears and even so policemen just removing their helmet and starting crying actually, one of them cried in the arms of my own mother. And she was telling him, it's okay, we'll be fine. So there was such an intensity. I think this is the first time since the nineties that we haven't seen juries that United. There was no rejoin Eliza there wasn't. I am habile and your up or I women, and you are men. No it w-. Was we are all Julian's, and we took to the streets because we want our dignity back and tell me what was the original demand. And were was it very clear at the outset. What that demand was? Yes. It was actually the very first demand was very clear and focused. It was not to the fifth term of President Bush flicker would flicker has been in power for twenty years. He has been, you know, debilitated by a stroke in two thousand thirteen and it has been six years that he hasn't been able to address his own people. The demand was cleared. No to this fifth term will do not want you as a president anymore. You need to step down and actually they succeeded in removing their president without one drop of blood being shed. So this is really an immense victory. But of course, the road is very long in the New York Times op Ed recently you described how peaceful those demonstration. Were paint is a bit of a picture of what it felt like to be in that crowd. It was beautiful. It was you know, very well organized. I have to point out something this movement is leaderless and yet it has been super well organized people. You know, go out every Friday, they do it after Friday prayer. They even established local committees, which are responsible of cleaning the streets. There are people volunteers who are actually cleaning up the street while people are marching so by the end of the demonstration, I can tell you the streets of Algiers were super clean, and that was amazing. They organize security comedies. These people were wearing orange vests and record see from them that they were there to make sure that everyone was safe especially women. But also to make sure that all protesters were safe in the sense that you know, the regime tried to. To dispatch some hitch man some but Aghia in order you now to provoke demonstrators. Fortunately, this committees have been very good at avoiding this kind of provocation and the solidarity. I have to talk about the solidarity of Algerians we had people giving us bottles of water for free. We had people throwing bottles of waters from their Balkany. We had people giving us food for free. We had hot tea. We had couscous we had donuts. Everybody was there to contribute in his way. And of course, that created a very beautiful moment of solidarity and of safety. I have a picture that was very moving for me in which we see a mother a woman holding a baby in her in her arms. The baby is in a deep sleep and she is carrying him with the Algierian flag tight on her neck, and my first reaction was. Because I am a mother too. And if my daughter was there, I would have taken her because I felt so safe, and I felt also proud when I asked this mother. She said we bring them because they are the future. They are our legacy. We are doing that for a bitter. Julia for a bitter future for our kids. So while this is a baby specifically jury is actually incredibly young country. How much of this? Do you feel like is run by those who were not born during the ninety s and the last wave of protests? Well, fifty four or fifty five percent of the jury in population is under age thirty and this is a huge. And when I marched with the student on the twenty six I talked to many of them, and they were super young they were twenty twenty one years old. So this is a different generation from mine. But I ask them about the black decayed and believe me these people didn't leave join the black decay yet. They have a pretty clear memory. You know, the memory of violence is still there. And when I asked them, how do you know that it is not really written in our history books because their fathers and their mothers and their brothers and sister talk about the black decayed because they told them this is what happened to us. We kill each other almost two hundred thousand people died fifteen thousand disappeared twenty billion dollars of material damage the country was almost ruined. And they have this memory. They don't want violence, and I think this contributed greatly to the Sylvia to the fact to the peaceful nature of these protests are Julian's do not want violence adjourns want change. But they don't want change at any price. They've really pay the hefty price. Dahlia do you think we're in a new era of spring now with what we're seeing Andrea? And what we've? Seen an uprising in in Sudan as well. Are we seeing a secondary spring? But, you know, juries don't like the analogy with the Arab spring because of all what happened after the Arab spring, you know, violent extremism dies, and so many other things so they don't like this analogy, and they would tell you that actually. Julia lived it's our spring. It's joins spring, and it is true in October fifth nineteen eighty eight Algierian Soukup to the street by millions five hundred people among them, many youth have been killed by the military because back then in eighty eight the military shoot at the people so followed, of course, the plaque decayed. So for Algierians they've already went there. And I think Julia is a bellwether for trends in the main region. You know, it's war of independence was a precursor for the war of independence for the. Arab world and in Africa. And Julia was one of the first and then the Assyrian spring happened and twenty years after that, you know, the Arab spring happened in two thousand eleven and our board. So I think what we are witnessing right now. My show us the future trends in them in orgin. This might happen in two three four five maybe seven years, but something like that is going also to happen again in those countries that witness the Arab spring in two thousand eleven meaning Tunisia Marocco to a certain extent, Libya and so forth. Dia. So in the last weeks with all these waves of protests pootie flick has agreed not to stand for another term. But in fact, the pouvoir the ruling group of algebra is still there. What do you think will be the future for JIRA? Well, you know, this is the complexity of the situation the jury in regime is a very complex and OPEC regime. It is composed by different stratas and circles of powers it is like a pyramid at the top of this permit. There is the military institution with some very charisma -tic and power for military leaders gates is one of them, for instance. And then you have the FLN which is the National Liberation Front ruling party Apache, and then you have business tycoons and all the circles of power have a great interaction because they have great and high political and economic interests and what Simmons? Their relationship is these interest. But of course, allegiances are very fluid. We so with this last week's when for instance, a business tycoon like either had dead defected from the boot flea clan. And he's been arrested lady so allegiances are fluid, and it is very difficult to see who is doing who with whom. And this is why we GM has been, you know, very hard to understand to allies, but also very hard to move. It's a regime that has been able to whether so many storms October nineteen eighty eight the black decayed nineteen Ninety-one two thousand one two thousand one the riots in Kabilia two thousand eleven the spring two thousand fourteen the drop in oil prices. The question is whether it is going to whether again, the two thousand nineteen protests. The question is an open question. I can't answer. But where I can tell you is that the deep stay. Eight is. So deeply rooted, you know, that it will be very hard to uproot. However, I believe that juries are determined for a change with it is going to be a real change, a deep change or just a cosmetic one, I think we will know that in the upcoming weeks and may be months before you leave DeVille hopeful than I do. I do I want to be domestic I feel that change is going to happen. However, however, the question of the deep state will remain the question of the involvement of the military in politics is a very crucial question. You know, the military are the real locus of power in Algiers. They haven't been governing that they have been ruling the country. And I believe that this is going to continue. And there is also the question of the damages for twenty years that cultural. Economic social economic and political damages that has been made by the regime are deep so it will be very hard to reconstruct the country, and I believe that the way to democracy might be a bit longer than what we expect. But if I have one piece of advice is for my fellow Julian to remain, peaceful civilized and to be passionate bet to be patient about the challenge. Thank you so much for joining us today. You're welcome. It was my pleasure. That was Dolly Agawam. Yells back residents guard Carnegie Middle East center in Beirut and the time since we spoke Muhammed's Ma he took over the National Liberation Front. The ruling party elections will be held in Algiers on July fourth. Meanwhile, protesters aren't satisfied their demanding more democracy and transparency first person is produced by me, sir, Wildman with Benjamin's alway our editors rob Sachs and our executive editor for news impasse is Dan Ephron. We'll be back next Friday. Thanks for listening.
Algerians protest over entrenched autocracy
"Hello and welcome to this edition of world weekly from the financial times. I'm getting Rachman today. We're looking at the situation in ALgeria where mass demonstrations have broken out calling for the eighty two year old President Abdelaziz Bouteflika to leave office. It's all a bit reminiscent of the demonstrations that broke out almost a decade ago in neighboring Tunisia and that sparked the so-called Arab spring. So what's likely to happen? Now joining me the studios are Middle East editor Andrew England. And then the lines are correspondent have a salad who's covering the protests. Andrew festival as I mentioned ALgeria in a way, it's been an anomaly because it didn't get sucked into the last round of mass protests across the region, why this peculiar history, and why is it happening? Now, do you think if we go back to two thousand eleven the were protests in JIRA, but the government acted proactively to put them down. They lifted the state of emergency in February two thousand eleven they reduced cuts in subsidies and they worked quickly to. As the population. And so you difficult the scale that you got in other countries in Libya in Egypt and engineers, you say now protests have continued in now, Jerry, but they've been very localized. And they'd be very specific sort of local problems, a water problem electricity jobs that kind of thing the difference with this is on a mask L. It's nationwide. People are saying it's bigger than they've ever seen out to your bigger than in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight when they have big protests, and it's all around one thing. And that one thing is the prison beautifully is seeking a fifth term. And it's not necessarily about him personally is more the question. The system is pushing him to stand for a fifth term when he's basically an ailing will chair bound president who's not even in the country. The moment we believe in Geneva getting medical treatment. So it's the whole notion is is the sense that Algerians being insulted by the ruling system saying, yes, we're going to push this eighty two year old onto for a fifth term, and that just seems to have been a step too far out here. And so we're seeing Jerry from all walks of life as I said take to the streets in towns cities. Across the country and really mobilized sort of a national sentiment against this, and beautifully ker has handed in his nomination papers. Someone did it for him because he's not in the country on Sunday, and the protests have continued so essentially against the system against the notion that somehow juries would accept having a president who's eighty two years old hasn't been seen in public for a longtime ready speaks at all in public and is in Seville. Yeah. But one of the reasons one of the theories as I understand it. Why Algieria was largely exempt lost time from the mass turmoil. Was that they had their own tragic civil war beforehand, two hundred thousand people died, and so was that also a reason why people are very wary of any outbreak of unrest because they've seen how tragically wrong it can go in the pause. I think our Jaren leaders have used that. And they've used that pasta. And as you say, you know, what happened in the nine hundred ninety s when they had an election in one thousand nine thousand one which was won by Islamists which the miniature then coun. Counselled which then triggered basically, a civil war that is fresh in the older generations minds, I think it's questionable how much role that played in two thousand eleven I mean, people that I've been speaking to tell me in two thousand eleven and it was called the angry poor working classes took to the streets. And it didn't have that national scope which we're seeing today. And of course, today there's a whole new generation of juries a very young country like of Middle Eastern countries had a very young population. So there will be those who actually don't remember the nine hundred ninety s so I think is slightly different. And have. I mean, did anyone see this coming I suppose, it's in the nature of these protests. Suddenly last time round that they do often just appear to emerge from nowhere. I think no one so this coming, and I think indeed the regime has been stunned by the size of the protests and just the number of people on the streets and their persistence, and the fact that it is all classes of society. There are men and women and children and people from the middle. Class, and they are determined and the regime has not been prepared for that. Like, Andrew said people see it as an insult to have this elderly man, who they have no idea what his state of health is. They have no idea if he is really the person making the decisions to have him foisted on them for a fifth Sturm. They just see it as an insult. And as you say he is gravely ill. He's probably not even in the country. So presumably he's not controlling events. Who do you think is he's not controlling events. But there are other powerful people in the country. There are of course, people who are powerful because of their functions. There's the prime minister, but there is what is often described as a presidential plan. The people around the president who are thought to be the people who want him to continue in order to preserve their own advantages. These include his. Brother, the include members of the business community, a private sector that has prospered under beautifully because he has poured billions of petrodollars into public works programs. So that has created a class of rich businessmen, and there are people in the military. And there's also I think sense that they don't know what to do next. They don't know how to arrange a succession because of their advantages, and because like in many other Arab countries, these are political systems that have been eviscerated. There are no functional parties there are no politicians in other places when they have looked a stuck for a successor. They've picked on the son of the president in ALgeria. It just feels like they've reached the end of the road. And they don't know what to do. So that leaves open the question what does happen next Android and predicting the cost of fence, obviously, very difficult. But. You think they'll have to come up with some kind of new dispensation and beautifully who will have to step down. I guess that is the multi-million dollar question. I mean on Sunday the president's in a letter, which was read out on his behalf. He said that if he was reelected on April the eighteenth, which is when the presidential elections held. He would then hold a national conference, and then hold another election at which he wouldn't stand that clearly didn't wash with the protesters they've continued protesting. So I think people are scrambling around the system seems to be scrambling around to what will turn into their own. I think the biggest problem is they don't have any clear alternatives. So in now JIRA, the military is traditionally played a very important role behind the scenes in politics. And it's a lot of people say what the military does next will be critical to what happens next in ALgeria. I mean, I think it's very important to say that the protests have been peaceful and both from the protests perspective from the security forces perspective. Nobody seems to want to see this turn into any sort of violent confrontation. I think that's very important. So if it can be maintained as a. With demonstration, and there are concessions in some way, that a piece that people than it might actually have a pulse outcome, and you see some sort of transition announce area where you get a more open, and a more genuine topic democratic environment that would be the positive side, the negative side would be if it does turn violent and things spiraled downhill, then we really are in uncharted territory. And of course, have the precedence and not encouraging Tunisia. Okay. Next door has been relatively peaceful, but other countries in the region, Egypt Syria Libya, it did get violent eventually or even quite quickly. And you didn't end up with a more democratic system. Do you have a sense of how the opposition are handling that do they have a game plan? I don't believe the opposition have a game plan because the opposition are not really the people instigating these protests there just being carried along. So no the opposition is. Is weak and fragmented and has been sort of weakened and marginalized for decades. So I doubt that they will be able to produce an alternative right now. Like, Andrew said algebra is in uncharted territory. But what one can say is that for now. Neither the military the security forces nor the protesters want it to become violent, and everyone is being careful. The chief of staff just announced that the army is going to guarantee the peace and that there will be no going back to the era of bloodshed in ALgeria. So this might be a sign of things to come does on relatively hopeful doesn't Andrew but thinking about the regional context, again, the parallel with the Arab spring's things that start in one place often don't stay just in one place. So that the rebellion starts in Tunisia spreads to Egypt and elsewhere. Obviously, the regional context now is very different. But do you think what happens in ALgeria is likely to be contained in ALgeria, and I guess the other country that one has to think about is France, which has such starkly close relationship with Algieria? Yeah. Well, I think one thing that this has shown is that the notion that the horrible violence in Syria, which came after an uprise against by Charlotte sat in that country would put people off protesting. Elsewhere. That's been totally undermined. We set out JIRA has his own history of in the ninety s but people still willing to go out on the streets. Albeit peacefully, clearly all we ever governments in the region. We watching this. I mean, we saw in two thousand eleven it. Started in Tunisia built up built-up Bonaly the president. There was deposed, and then it spread Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc. I think the region is very different now. I mean, if we look around Algiers neighbors Libya is still in a chaotic state sits it's uprising against Qadhafi. In two thousand eleven Tunisia is. Is relatively stable and has moved to a more democratic dispensation of though, it has deep social and economic problems, and in Egypt is just a very autocratic system in place. Now where people are very fearful of putting their head above the parapet. But I think across the region we can talk about Morocco. We can talk about Jordan. There is this kind of simmering frustration among ordinary people. And again, these are very young populations about economic grievances and political grievances, and they might be all different in the respective countries. But clearly there is a festering simmering frustration that a lot of leaders in the region, we heard about and have it just finished with you. I mean, you're in Cairo the algae Iran's aren't letting foreign correspondence into L, Jerry at the moment. But Egypt obviously went through the whole cycle of the Arab spring. Now has general el-sisi and chart. How do you think the gypsies will be viewing events in Algieria? I think the addiction population is thrilled by what's happening in Algiers. And they are watching. Carefully, but are fatigued they are still traumatized from their own revolution. And the upheavals that followed that and of course, as Andrew pointed out, it is very autocratic system, and descent and protests and all this are not tolerated. I doubt very much that anything will happen in Egypt as a result of event in ALgeria. And register finish. Also think you're watching this very closely. We shouldn't forget ALgeria is Africa's biggest country. It's a very important gas exporter to southern Europe. I think it's the biggest exporter of Gus to Spain also expose gas to Italy to Portugal, and as you mentioned, it has very historical links to France on a little French Algierians in France. So it's geographic position size, the coastline, etc. I think Europe we watching us very closely as well. Okay. Well, we'll leave it there for now. And we'll also be watching it closely in the weeks to come. But for now, thank you both very much. Thanks to under England here in the studio. Oh to have a seller on the line from Cairo. That's it for this week until next week goodbye. We live in the area of disruption with entire industries in a state of change. Join host Walter Isaacson as he discovers the fascinating stories of some of the world's biggest trailblazers my favorite thing to do. Go to the drive in movies plug in the GPS receivers, let it collect data while I was watching a double feature with my wife from virtual reality to robotics Formula, one and farming trailblazers from Dell technologies the unexpected stories of digital disruption. Listen now from wherever you get your podcasts. This financial times podcast is supported by capital on capitol. One is building a better Bank one that feels an axe nothing like a typical Bank. 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