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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"alexis rocher" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Terms of his public perception. Of course it is. I mean, if you're a fighter, you want to fight. And this was, you know, I don't want to engage in these debates at all times, but Sergio, we have this argument with on the zone boxing show, was like, it's Spencer nothing. All right, so you're saying that Terence Crawford should just sit out for the next 6 months and cross his fingers and hope that a deal could be constructed to face arrow Spence, where's the upside in that? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Stay busy, make some money, get to 41. Maybe you can get to that mythical 50 you know if your Crawford before the end of your career, but I think staying busy. And look, I'm not gonna, you know, lavish praise necessarily on Alexis roach or beating George ashy, the 14th ranked contender by the WBA. We didn't get into this on the broadcast. No, I thought that you were gonna go hard on this. I was waiting for it. I tried to set you up for it too. I know, but no, but I kind of let the pitch go by. Just to recap here. George ashy, who had fought one time above welterweight. And that was technically I believe a junior middleweight fight because his opponent weighed one 50. He came into that fight against Alexis Rocher, ranked number 14 in the WBA rankings. Alexis Rocha, a career long welterweight, who was on a 6 fight winning streak after the lost Ellis was not ranked by the WBA. So when people wonder why I hate these sanctioning bodies and everything they stand for, this is why. This is why George ashy had no business objectively being ranked in the top 15, but the WBA put them there, which is bonkers to me. Sanctioning body, I think sanctioning bodies behaving badly is going to be a recurring segment on this podcast. I think we're going to have to just recognize just absolutely shitty things that sanctioning bodies do in this sport. Yeah, and you could have a weekly segment on that. And again, that's not like it's not George Ashe's fault that he wound up in that position, right? I think that we could do two things. Like, we could be critical of the sanctioning bodies and also respectful of the fighters who sometimes benefit the fighters fault. You know, from those mechanisms, like it's possible to do both. But roach also did the very best that he could with that situation with a highlight reel knockout because if that fight goes the distance, Chris, we're having an entirely different conversation. Because of that knockout and because that's the clip that circulating, people aren't talking about what kind of a fight that was. And that kind of gets pushed aside for it. Yeah, we know what that fight was, but man, look at this knockout, right? That's that really benefited Rocha and his plight right now. All right, let's talk about archer better be of. Last week better be have picked up is 19th win and 19th knockout stopping Anthony yard in a more competitive fight than expected, at least more competitive fight than I expected. Better be have took some shots in this one Corey. He's 38 years old. So let me start here. Did you see any signs of slippage in archer better BF? I think that if you look at a handful of better BF's last, say 6 fights. So if we include the beginnings of the Marcus Brown fight and the Adam dinas fight, there have been times where better BF has looked like maybe he's sliding a little bit. And there would be good reason for that at this point. I think that two things probably happened in this fight. I think that yard improved the yard was a little bit better than we expected that yards that his power that his pop was a little more meaningful than maybe we gave it credit for coming into the fight, but also yeah, better be of is 38 years old and he demands a lot of his body both in the ring during an active fight and in the gym. You know, this is a guy we've seen the clips of him working out in the gym and the finger push ups and, you know, when you're doing wrist exercises with the fucking barbell, the whole barbell, like you're asking a lot of your body and that's doing a lot of wear and tear. It's also getting you in phenomenal shape, but there becomes that there's a breaking point where your body can't do that anymore. And the way the better be of fights also invites contact, even in his very best performances he takes his shots. So yeah, like I don't think that it's derogatory to say that better be of is slipping a little bit because science would suggest that that has to be the case right now. But is he slipping to the point that he's not the best the best light heavyweight in the world? I mean, it's still between him and Dmitry beeville. Yeah, I agree. He took more shots than he took, say, in the vote stick fight, which was his last really high level fight. Like you said, a lot better than I thought he was going to be. I was expecting some version of the Anthony yard that fought against Sergey kovalev, who was okay early on and then faded badly late, but this version of yard. Even in 6, 7th round, D was throwing some shots and landing some shots, so I could be in through the yard. A lot of credit for the way he fought. I don't think you should take any steps backward after performance like that. But if you're better, you can probably start to hear father time and those footsteps behind you. Not yet, he's not catching up yet, but you know, he might be two or three fights away from being more vulnerable than he's been in years past. And look, I thought the scorecards were kind of preposterous. Having Anthony yard up like two or three rounds or one of the judges had, like, that's ridiculous. That just didn't happen. That's not reflective of reality. But, you know, better be has been down the scorecards before. They're not important to him because he knows that eventually he's going to get to his opponent and stop him. It was up on the scorecards, I think. What he fought better be having better be of just finished him off. So I think he's still high, high level, but he might not be the fighter we saw against vostok a couple of years ago. Now, the question is, can better be of and be made? And unfortunately, the short answer is no. For a few reasons. Number one, the timing kind of sucks. Better be of is a devout Muslim. He is going to observe Ramadan in the next couple of months. And that effectively shelves him till the early summer at the earliest. And if your Dimitri beeville, even though you do want that shot at our to better be of, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is Canelo Álvarez. And if Canelo is really targeting as Eddie Hearn has been telling everybody that he is. That fight would take place in September. And B roll is not turning down the opportunity to fight for the undisputed championship at one 68 in September against Canelo Álvarez. Its legacy, it's money. It's everything that you could possibly want in a potential fight. That's reason number one. Reason number two, is there's no money anywhere for it. Like Dimitri B roll in his last couple of fights, made $5 million in each. Made $5 billion to face Canelo Álvarez, made about $5 million to phase zero Ramirez in Abu Dhabi. So he's used to a certain level of pay. So too is archer better, yeah, who's going to expect his career highest payday if he goes up against a B tree beeville. These guys are great fighters. Nobody
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"alexis rocher" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Start making every moment more. This is boxing with Chris Manning. Now somebody punch him in the face. Anthony Joshua is a composed and ferocious finisher. Watch this. Hosted by SI's Chris mannix. That was my moment. Now with interviews, analysis and everything going on in the world of boxing. When you have talent, you are given another chance. Here's Chris mannix. Due to this nonstop onslaught from Rocha. What a shot. Alexis Rocha. That is the voice of Corey erdman on the disowned broadcast last weekend, Corey was with me in Los Angeles at the YouTube theater where we saw Alexis Rocha, pick up a spectacular knockout win over George Ashe and Corey is joining me this week on the podcast from where exactly are you, Corey. I am in lovely and very snowy Montreal right now. I'm here to call Eric bazin, Alan tes Fox tour on night on ESPN+. Now we're talking. I'm in New York where it is not snowy, but it is bone chilling cold at the moment. It's expected to be really cold all weekend long. The Amanda Serrano Erika Cruz fight is on to zone this weekend. So Corey, not to get too deep into the Roche wind. He did what everyone expected. I mean, credit ashy for winging punches until the end, but this was a 140 pounder moving up against a full fledged welterweight with some pop. I want to talk about what's next here with Alexis Rocha. Golden boy, we know, met with Terence Crawford last week. Alexis Rocha was discussed as Bernard Hopkins told us on the broadcast. So let's kind of put it out there. Is Alexis roach in your mind a good option if your butt Crawford? Well, I think he's an option, right? I think that the appropriate option that we all agree upon is supposed to be Errol Spence. And I know that there are obviously going to be fans who are absolute hardliners who say it's that fight or nothing. I'm not watching Terrence Crawford unless it's against Daryl spent. But the real Sergio Mora, like Sergio Moore is one of those people. Sergio included. So yeah, he did not order the BLK prime pay per view last night. Last time he did not. In fact, many, many people did not order that. But would they order against Alexis Roja? I don't know. I mean, listen, Rocha is an option. And if Crawford enters some kind of working agreement with golden boy, it is a fight that within those confines makes sense. He's one of the welterweights that golden boy can offer up. And I imagine. And this is just reality. I think the roach understands this in golden boy, has said as much as well, Virgil Ortiz is kind of first in line. You know, he is taking precedence in terms of who they care about most at welterweight. And then comes Alexis Rocha. So if they're negotiating something with Terrence Crawford unless it's a one off kind of thing, I imagine that, yeah, they're offering roach a first and then maybe Ortiz or I truly don't know what they're discussing, but that's kind of what I would imagine. And, you know, if we care about what rankings do and what their mechanisms are, then roaches sits third behind him in the wbo, and he is an option that's there. Has Rocha done a ton to this point to say he's ready to face one of the, you know, let's call it three best fighters on Planet Earth, depending on how you want to arrange them. Well, I mean, his best wins are over Blair cobbs and George ashy. So the answer to that is probably no. But at the same time, in roach's own words, when you asked him, Chris, are you ready for Terrence Crawford? He said, we'll see when I get in there. So Alexis Rocher isn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. He understands how people view this matchup, but if the option is there and you're Alexis Rocha, of course you take it. I don't see why you wouldn't. I think if you're bud Crawford, like you're kind of running out of options here because you're not going to do business with top rank because that relationship ended badly. You're obviously not doing business with PVC at the moment. Matchroom doesn't really have anybody that's overly appealing to you. And if you're, if you're dealing with golden boy, you can construct a two fight deal that would protect you in the event that a Spence fight can't be made. I mean, Rocha, like you said, is in a position where he could be named the mandatory at some point in the next couple of months. And if your Crawford, you've got to protect that title probably at all costs. So you may have to take that fight one way or the other. Doing a deal with golden boy makes it a little bit easier. And if you beat Rocha, which many expect would expect, maybe there's a Virgil or tee shot down the line. I mean, Virgil Ortiz is going to face standing onus on April 29th. That much is known. Right now, that is forced Danny onis a secondary title. But I don't know many people, Cory, that believe that Spence after moving to one 54 to face Keith Thurman is going to come back down to one 47, certainly not to face Virgil Ortiz or standing on us. That's just, he's not going to happen. That's just not happening at the moment. So a two fight deal that begins with Alexis Rocha and ends with Virgil Ortiz is a pretty good year if your parents Crawford Terrence Crawford over the last three years has been a once a year fighter. He fought once in 2020 once in 21 and once in 22. He was saved in a way by BLK prime coming in and operating like Brewster from Bruce just millions and just throwing money at stuff. And giving him reportedly $10 million to fight that fight against David Abernathy. I don't believe that backup plan is going to be in place this time around, especially with 13 people buying Adrian broner against Michael Williams in February. So I think he's not going to get 10 million bucks to find Alexis Rocha, but maybe there's a deal that makes sense for turns Crawford where he can get paid. And he could also stay active. Like these are key years in Crawford's careers. It was mid 30s now. His days are effectively numbered in boxing. I know people dumped all over the idea of Alexis roach and I get it, but look, Rocha is number three in the wbo. He's 6 O since that loss to rashidi Ellis. He's as qualified as anyone that's available available being the key word. So why not go and do it? Get a win and then go into what could be a pretty big fight against Virgil Ortiz before the end of the year. Yeah, and I think Ortiz is key to this because it particularly if it's a package that could potentially lead to Virgil Ortiz. I would say that even the absolutists when it comes to Crawford and Spence and absolutely not wanting any other fight could be convinced to watch Crawford versus boots Ennis versus Keith Thurman versus Virgil Ortiz, like there's a handful of names that I think would be acceptable enough. And one thing that is true, you know, whether Crawford is privy to it or not. I don't know how much he's on his timeline, but he does have a little bit of a PR battle on his hands, right? And I think that both he and Spence do, but probably a little bit more on the Crawford side. I think the voices are a little bit louder in terms of his detractors, I think that anything that he can do that points his arrow towards one of those other names, at least temporarily, is good PR for him at the very least. Even if it's not spent, if it does not a guaranteed spent fight if you have golden boy saying that that is a fight that we're working towards and hey, maybe there's virtual Ortiz also. I think that that's a win for
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"alexis rocher" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"All right, finally, on the undercard of this show is what I think is going to be the best fight of the show. 440 pound champion going up against Blair, the flair cobbs in a welterweight fight, Sergio. This is exactly what an undercard fight should look like. You've got a crossroads fight between two guys over the age of 30 who are looking to get back in contention. Both these guys coming off knockout losses for hooker, it was a year plus ago against Virgil Ortiz for Blair cobbs, more recently, against Alexis Rocha, the winner will get right back into the welterweight picture for a big fight. The loser probably done as a high level fighter or at least a contender in the 147 pound division. What do you think of this fight? No, not probably. They are. They are because they realize not only especially if they lose by another knockout. Yeah. There's phases in a fighter's career and they're in their 30s already. They already experience what it's like to fight a formidable opponent. It's not even championship level. Alexis Rocher wasn't a championship fighter yet, but he got, it was a hell of a fight, Blair cobbs, he put on a good show, there were the main event, but he came up short and got stopped by a guy that has been proven himself on the championship level either. So you already got stopped by someone that's not that was hooker, at least got stopped by champions. He has amateur pedigree. He's already picked up a strap, and he's only lost to really hard punches. Ramirez a beast, you know? So Virgil Ortiz, a future beast, and he's proved that on the championship level 'cause he's been former champions Ortiz has. So that's why I got a favorite Maurice hooker in this fight. The technique, the long jab, the 80 inch span in order to get past that. And then the body shots for a tall fighter. Very good body. Excellent body punching. Yeah, I just think it's gonna be too much for our flare. A Blair flair because cobbs has a bad, a bad thing about leaving this chin up. And it cost him with Rocha. You know, once the fight starts getting into the later rounds, his technique goes out the window and it's gonna catch him in this fight as well.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"alexis rocher" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But I thought it was, look, it was an exciting fight. I knew when golden boy and outside fight in the first place when they were willing to put those two guys in with each other that I thought it would be a good fight just having seen both of them in the past. I thought Rocha would win the fight and all respect a Blair cobbs. You know, he is got a very, very giant personality. He wants to be seen. He comes to fight, but I don't know if his skill level is at the same level as like you mentioned the amateur background of a roach. And that is going to put you at a deficit. So, you know, cobs, I think, is sort of gotten to a certain level. I'm not necessarily sure you can ever get to the next level. Rocha, by doing what he's been doing in recent fights, particularly with that win against cobbs is showing maybe he can get to the next level. And he does have the loss to Rashida Ellis, who is also an outstanding amateur. So I'm not a 100% sold on a roach as being a bona FIDE contender, but I think what the cops fight told me is if one of the two has a chance to be a actual contender, it is, in fact, Alexis Rochelle. Yeah, a younger fighter to just 24 years old, cobbs is what 33 at this point. So he has that going for him. And look, I don't think you throw Alexis Rocha in with Virgil Ortiz in his next fight or any kind of top 5 welterweight, but he was talking afterwards about facing a Michael mckinson. And I'd be on board for that 5 McKinsey had a very, very unwatchable fight against Alex Martin. Yeah, I'm not so sure I want to see that. I want to see Alexis Rocha in with other opponents that are going to be there to fight him in. I mean, I think for Alexis Rocher though, one of the things I think he knows he needs work with is fighting slicker boxers because rashidi Ellis is a slick boxer and he was able to win on the back of that. Roach has got to know that to get to the next level. He can't just win fights where guys stand to trade with them or like with Blair club's cops stick their chin out in front of them. He's got to beat more pure boxers and McKinsey presents that type of challenge. I just sort of think there's a happy medium between that. You don't have to necessarily fight a guy that's just going to stand and stick your chin out the way you mentioned about cops. You also need to fight a guy that's so utterly negative like who's a talented boxer. I'm not going to knock him for that. But he's just doesn't make a crowd appealing fight. And Alexis Rochelle wants to make a crowd of appealing fight and, you know, it's a sport where you need to please the fans at some point. And there's other, I know McKinsey was in the rejiggered co feature because of the fact that his original opponent was Virgil, who fell out. But I don't think there's going to be any groundswell to say, we got to see roach against McKinsey. If you sit and spend some time looking at the different organizational rankings or box record or whatever, you're going to come up with some other welterweights that might be more appealing. That can also give him the type of look that you want to get him that you're mentioning about, maybe a guy that's a bit more of a fighter than a letter cobbs is. But the good thing about well, he's in a position where, you know, he's on the upswing. There's going to be opportunities. He's in a good division..