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Alexander Hernandez and Jon Anik

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:07:08 hr | 5 months ago

Alexander Hernandez and Jon Anik

"San Antonio is a sleeping giant on the alarm clock. That's where city of Santo. Welcome to you at sea unfiltered. We got a great show today. Jon Anik. We always love having on such a great talker. And he's such a great commentator. We got Alexander Hernandez today. I'm I'm looking forward to fighting drew. Dober- we just mentioned. We talked about drew over because by the way the boys are on embedded. I'm always happy when we wind up on something. You have see related because it gets so many of us so I hope people are turned on the podcast from you have c. a embedded Jimmy. I have a question and I. It's better suited for Alexander Hernandez the great the great Alexander a with a bid. His list was July nineteenth. You know and that was a little bit ago. If I mean you know couple more months that'd be a year that he was. He was out of commission. Man was injured. You taking some time off. You know. He bounced back if that Donald Surani laws and You know to take on a very tough Francisco. Tornado who was guide does not act as age in the cage. Now you just saying not seen his age because he's my age forty something forty one and he's just the east so You know he beat. You're although Alexander and then he's been ways bed I wanna find out where he's been because he's one of these young young top prospects that he came in and and he was doing well and then he had a little slip up and now he and inbound back that he's been colonel again. We'll find out where he's been here and there's no disgrace in losing to cowboy. I mean you know I mean cowboy. When he's is one of the best in the business and I hate to say it like that sports caster but he really is. And it's funny. The whole Stephen. A Smith controversy got raised again to guess cowboy was doing an interview and he's like yeah. Donald ceremony showed up that night. A Cowboy did and Stephen Smith is like I am. I vindicate like he's so obsessed with being right but no you requesting the guy's heart and had a bad fight fight doesn't mean you don't have the heart to fights annoying. He jumped on that Stephen a Smith he said recently I think whether he likes it or not. I think he was very embarrassed by the backlash he'll say he wasn't but I think the fact that he's not typically known for MMA and when guys like Rogan and even a guy like connor who obviously likes him. Says YOU'RE WAY WRONG I? It's embarrassing to have guys who know so much. Tell you like fuck it off base so I guess a lot of sports announcers the EGO is too big to realize you know what I was wrong. I fucked up and I was wrong. They have to do right then. There's also a different way of putting things like you know. Obviously he didn't have a good performance that night. Yeah I mean but again you know just to a cowboy they say hey you know he cowboys go for a fighter. You got to somehow justify how things happen to yourself like you have to say. Why Didn I show wide? Did I not perform that? Night is a better way. Saying there's a lot of factors into it and everybody knows that it's not even it's not a distant off because he is notoriously slow starter. Starting at the time I mean we. Alexander was on him in the beginning of that I do and then he and then Alexander be on soon. he was in their fight. You know he came out like a Mike a bowl and he was on them. And then when the thing is the most dangerous cowboys and cowboy weathers the storm early and then settles into a rhythm and then it's a problem you know even for the best guys but does he get out of that first round 'cause we obscene several times where he hasn't you know so you know you don't gotta be you. Don't be saying the guy you know. It just gets more of the wording. What Stephen Smith how? How great seem somewhat disrespectful? And just you know kinda ignorant. Yeah if he said Hey He didn't have a good performance tonight. I am cowboy acknowledged that you can't get knocked out in the first round and think you had a good performance but there's a difference between losing a fight and and giving up and there's a difference In questioning you guys. Mental question cowboys. Fuck mental sage had a bad fight. Well I'm looking forward to is Any pettus do not crazy. How Little Cardigan it is through. The whole card is GonNa be so sick main event. What time do the early prelims Store Ginny? And I don't want to throw curveballs at you. You know we should ask about that. Our Pal Jon Anik Because I definitely give you the wrong start time because I'm a bit of an ass. Now the prelims start at eight. Oh right in front of me. The early prelims six thirty. Pm Eastern Standard Time. Three thirty if you're on the West Coast and I don't know what time that is in England but I will say that. What an amazing amazing fucking card and you know reading even beyond this to forty nine. The ones that we have been you know. Everybody is kind of gearing up for the the Smith Glover to share a card is really great and the ovary and Harris Card is really great and I got quite analogous Angela Hill. Then gay gets Edson. Barboza is fighting again. Kristof Jaakko against Eric. Unders like there's some incredible fights on every card so we should be close to getting back to normal schedule by within a week or two days. And THAT'S THE NEXT CARD. You talk about the ones you would just naming on the thirteenth may thirteenth no over. Him Harris. I'm sorry I was that's That's the sixteen. We have the one on the thirteenth which. I love thought you love that. They're doing a fucking Wednesday. That's so great man. We Need Jones in for it man. You know what I mean. Don't get me wrong. I love the bike rides and at new games. You know what I mean but amen I need I need some? Ma In my life. I need to watch many sees because I am I'm in need Jimmy. Don't get me wrong. I love the Merkin. Vr As much as the next guy. I just had a the dinner before I had my buffalo wild wings. You did right. They didn't like it to me. Yeah Jonah Hey thanks for accommodating the timeslot today I appreciate both of you guys. That beard looks good. Thank you so much John and you know what this is the way you start an interview. Thank you John. How's things man? I spoke to you in a while. We're doing okay. I think we're all anxious to get back to work. I think for any of us who have young children you know. These have been a tough fifty five sixty days. I mean we all have our own circumstances but I got three kids under eight and a one and a half year old son who is bouncing off the walls. So I'd be lying if I said to you that I wasn't chomping at the bit to get by car tomorrow and drive five hours to Jacksonville. Where are you now so I live in South Florida? So certainly got fortunate with This Jacksonville card but I was conditioned myself to fly to Fresno and go to the more California mid April. So how many are you doing? Because they have won this Saturday. They've won the Thirteenth one is sixteen which I love it as a fan. It's incredible how many you're doing there so I think a lot of NFL play by play guys would say. Why can't you do all three? We go seventeen straight weeks but our show is an entirely different beast. So I'm doing the first two Saturday and Wednesday. It almost would have been a physical impossibility to do all three. We considered it. But we're losing fights in gaining fights and there's pre voiced elements and there's just too much jared goes it to one of these broadcasts to three and a week so thankfully. I'll do the first two and then I'll get back in my car and travel. Who's who's going to become what you who's. Who's working with you because I know dominant Cruz? Who sometimes we'll be fighting so that's GonNa be you haven't here's at Fort and a while crews so he fought December thirty two thousand sixteen. I wasn't the pay per view guide. Then so circumstantially. I've worked for this company. Nine years called almost two hundred shows. I've never called a dominant crews fight anxiety there because he's probably my closest friend among broadcast partners have spent the most time with him socially and professionally and talked about fighting more with him than anybody else so just. WanNa do right by him and his particular fighting style on the broadcast but once the fight starts the emotion is gone. I'm not thinking about my friendship with DC when he's fighting steep bay. I mean once the fight starts. There's too much shit going on to be worried about who you might offend right. It's just a fight. You're calling a fight. You're calling to two championship. Fights the gotTa because even though you're probably closer to dominic. I'm sure you still like Henry. Pseudo and I'm sure you like steep. You know exactly. I have a personal relationship with a lot of these guys in Henry is a good example that you bring up a friendship with. We have leaned on each other at times in our professional lives before. So it's not as though you know. My heart is entirely with Dominick Cruz or anything like that but to answer your question. Mattie so it'll be Rogan in DC. As far as I know for the pay per view at USC to forty nine. And then I believe on that Wednesday Paul felder will step in and fight so I tell you I am excuse me. I'm happy that it is dominant Cruz. Instead of Jose Aldo averse metoo shoot because I mean it's a different look first of all I want to see how dominant comes back. He's proven that maybe ring. Russ worked true for fighters but not all fighters. He came back after three off and took out Miz. Masaki who AB Premier Sake. Who was was wasn't Misaki and he was number five at the time excited in a minute minute and that was after. Dana was big on saying I believe in ring. Ross that Dominick Cruz does not. He went out eight performed. But now he's fighting. Triple see his foot. Work has his style. He's very unique to his his movement. I WANNA see how do how Henry approaches that. There are a lot of interesting layers to this fight. And I'm not saying this because Matt Serra is here out jemaine sterling in my mind. Is the number one band contender? I know he had an invasive wrist surgery and maybe pseudo wasn't Jones into fight a guy who presents all of that lengthened is smack DAB in the middle of his fighting prime at Joe's probably the number one contender. But don't sit here and tell me consensus greatest band of All Time. Dominant cruises not worthy of a title shot. Right sure he needed Jim. A global pandemic to intervene to get this opportunity but dominic has said to me repeatedly over the last four years. He's gone through one major invasive surgery after another that it stands to reason that I will come back at a championship setting and I sort of shut him off and sure enough Jim. It's almost like he willed it to happen somehow. He is fighting Henry and he believes he's fighting a natural flyweight that he is bigger and better than biggest question for me. And I'm not the analyst Guy. I'm not the martial artist but is slower has lost a step. He doesn't seem to think. So how old is he now? Thirty five he's only duties two years older than pseudo. It's not like there's a forty year old guy by twenty eight year old champion. There's only two years separating and crews has at least not a couple of years so you can say ring rush and you could. Also say hey. His buddies had a break. Henry hasn't had certainly dom would be the first to tell you that. He's as healthy as he's been in some time if you do go back and watch his last fight against cody garbrandt. There was a lot of there. But if you watch it back at the end of Brown to Eric Del fierro comes over to Dominic and he asks him for a certain action to begin round three and dom points to his right shoulder. Look like I know I know I understand. So Dob. Shoulder didn't get repaired until two thousand eighteen right so his shoulders completely rebuilt he feels healthier than he was going into. The GARBRANDT fight is that hyperbole leading into a fight or are those words true. I don't know but I do believe that. Dominic mentally physically feels like he has put himself in prime position to not just fight. Suharto but to go out and beat the guy here in a few days took about a guy with some rough luck. Man I mean Shit Dude. Don't watch out for the black cats will walk onto any land is this guy and I don't know if there's any fighter we say it now because the frontier he's not gonna get knocking on some wood. You're not going to get by but I can understand Henry's concerns before signing up to fight for choosing although instead of dominic because Amen. I don't want to put all this guy's not whose fault but he's all right getting injured so this is almost a great a really good scenario for dominic. Because maybe I don't know how long it can't be had for this. But that might be the best option for dominic to come in the most healthy. Yeah no I think you're right. He had about six weeks sent for him to get into five round championship shape. He needs at least that but I do think that will be primed and has focused a lot on the cardio but Henry. Pseudo is a beast who is in his prime and I would respectfully disagree with Dominic. I do believe Henry's best weight class is going to be one hundred thirty five pounds. This is a guy who almost gave up on mixed martial arts because some of those early cuts twenty-five were so cumbersome so henry his words not mine but he feels like his ability to connect the the body and mind in a championship. Setting is what sets them apart. He might be the least emotional fighter on the roster. There's a reason why he is one of the greatest combat sports athletes of all time. And I do think it's going to take near perfection from a returning dominick Cruz to to dethrone. Triple see now. What are you eating? Jimmy got delivered to my House. Buffalo wild wings tell everybody about Buffalo Wild Wings. The talk. Wait a minute. This is a really weird coincidence. Because this whole episode is sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings. You have to forty nine deserves to be watched with wings that you love to crush order. Take out or delivery from Buffalo Wild Wings. 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It's Buffalo Wild Wings. Yes I just dropped the Frie- I'll cover while you get five second rule. Yeah yea I have not seen a card this good for a long time man because there's always cards were like all right. Boom boom will these fights. I am looking forward to the most. I want to see the other one so some of them. Some fights surprise you but I'm looking even from the early pre prelims consenting Gabor's Nico price that's a that's a fucking great fight and one. I bring up a lot. Is these young gun to Bryce Mitchell and Charles Rosa early. Prelims telling you this is as deep a card as I've seen certainly since maybe UFC two. Oh five some people would argue. This is the deepest carton. Ufc history there are about six or seven main events on this sweat co it stands to reason that call far as the former champion fighting. The karate hottie Michelle Waterson who by the way headline in her last fight they be fighting in a main event and Bryce Mitchell Charles wrote Sir fighting on. Ufc fight pass early on so yeah. It's one main event after the next and just just going to be crazy man. Seventy five fighters eight days your success. I met Francis Jersey Rosen's strike. I think that's the fight. Obviously against Ferguson. I WANNA see fight. Anybody all the five. I think he's the guy. I think I say this every time we talk about him but he's the guy that nobody wants to deal with. Because we fight conor you're fighting a giant name. It's a huge payday for everybody cowboys. Houston GATES. He's a big name but he's not on that level so you take your fighting this animal with with With a tremendous risk and not as much reward as as you would want from a guy like connor so I think just the fact that he's getting this title shot is is really great and it's not great luck but it's it's great that the lined up this way for him. Yeah I think you're right and a big reason why he's getting it. Is Tony Ferguson? Because Tony Ferguson. Believes that gateway is richly deserving of championship opportunity in the UFC interim belt or otherwise. Yeah but you're absolutely right about just engaged in Tony. Ferguson is very much cut from that. Same cloth two guys who just relish going into that dark place. That guys like me never wanted to go to as an athlete you know what I mean. They live in those dark places as you. You were a runner. No I mean I've always been a roller. I was the captain of my high school basketball team but if I went to a big public school there's no way I would have been. The captain logged any appreciable minute so athletic career was aided by going to a small school but I played varsity tennis basketball high school choice. Sean I'm five. Nine twin brothers like five eight and three quarters so that's really all the matter Shimmy right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's all that you definitely ruled the roost. Because you are taller you aren't you Jimmy. I tell people five eleven. Five six is probably more more true five six also but I feel like I'm sixty you do. But you're a former champion thank you. I've taken six kickboxing classes. You have a reason to feel alpha. You know what I find interesting guys is that I was reading that just engaging with not taking a short was fight against Khabib. I guess it'd be and he did Tony Ferguson. L. Because the style wise but it shows you his mentality because he knows he'll be fighting those take downs and that could be grueling. I don't think Tony's going for a fucking take down. He knows that this is going to be just a bond burner of just fisticuffs and elbow. Shore that Rashad Halloween Eddie? Bravo know what Tony's going to do. I'm not even sure. Tony knows acutely what he's GonNa do on fight night you know. He has really had a pension for sort of making adjustments and going with the flow of a fight. And it's just incredible the resume and the body work that Tony is put together and I hope I'm not a broken record when I am laying out Ferguson's credentials but it's like to do what he has done and to have never have competed for the sports. Ultimate prize is almost criminal crazies. A first ballot hall of Famer. Who put together the greatest lightweight winning streak ever right? He had double digit wins at fifty five before Khabib and yet no one talks about him as being on the Mount. Rushmore of is one of the four greatest fighters of all time and is prominently in that discussion. So Ferguson is putting a lot of his legacy on the line as well and I'm just excited for all the athletes. We talked to all these guys. I know you I mean. Could these guys sound anymore? Ready for these fights like they're all just chomping at the bit like the fans. You might be John. I'm wondering I'm looking at. I wonder if because of Tony at one point had one fight a year and in twenty six teen. He fought twice so maybe it was just like. I'm not saying OUTTA sight outta mind. No one forgets Tony Ferguson. Fighters that your first thoughts might be somebody who's been fighting more actively but you're right. I don't know why he hasn't spoken about in the top five fighter conversation every time. It comes up the first time that I heard about. Kabibi Tony Fighting. I was on a van with Joe Silva after Tony Ferguson had beaten Edson Barboza two thousand fifteen and so I said to Joe I said Oh you gotta give Tony a title fight right now. And he's like no. I WANNA do Ferguson. Let's go bieber. Magomedov essentially dates to two thousand fifteen. And you're right since then has been an active schedule and I think that's certainly is hurt. Him At least in the in the court of public opinion. Yeah well. I'm almost as excited even though again. There's no long standing dream of Ferguson. Fighting Justin Gage. He I think from purified perspective. I am looking forward to this more than I would've with Kazaa and again I'm saying that now because it's not happening but I I like watching gay Xi fight for a title and I think it's really fair so whichever one of these guys fights Habib after. It's a great fight but this fight. I'm looking for two as much or more than I would have against him fighting and the Gateway Bhatia Work Mattie outside the UFC right with successful title. Defenses and everything else. I'm just happy like you are Jim that he's getting a champion shot in the UFC. Because he certainly is earning well. Listen I have no dog in the race or is it a horse in the race with about? I will say this if it will he wins. Obviously we want. We've been waiting forever for that. Fight happened with him in a beam. But I would be equally if not more just intrigued to see the fight between just engaging in Abib because of the way that the styles clash because nobody's able to take down just engaging ground and pound because there's wrestling's out good he uses it strictly to stay up and not the wrestle. Just can't take them down. Just get up and work as kicks in his punches and he's got such a good gas tank could he'll be he gets pissed. Holy could be a do what he does to everybody else to just engage or could just get up an inflict our age. Just fuck man. That's why they play the Games and obviously could be and Justin had the same manager. Elliot so they have intimate knowledge of each other and some have suggested the. Maybe that's why I was so ready to go because he was getting updates on copy before some other people. Oh no doubt. He is maximized the extra three weeks. He got but I think he was pretty damn ready to go on April eighteenth but yeah man. It's all in front of and if the Habib Tony Fight doesn't happen a six time because of just gateway at least a fighter will have gotten in the way of it instead of a of a global crazy circumstances. And I'll tell you another. I don't know if it's been signed yet. But Woodley Against Gilbert Burns on the twenty third. That's a fight that I can't wait to see either because Gilbert Burns looked incredible I mean it was a very brief fight against Damian Meyer. But he's one of the few guys that has any experience now fighting with no audience and he said it made him a little. We talked to him a little nervous because of the sound. You're hearing that. You're not use to hearing so everybody fighting for the first time without a crowd. It's give me interesting to see how they respond to that. Yeah and Gilbert Torino. Burns is on a roll. He could be top five and two divisions but it is a real part of this equation for the fighters and I've been asked a lot leading up to the fights atmospherically. What's it going to be like for you guys? Call the fights candidly for me. It's like I got forty six athletes to master so I focused on the preparation. The what it's going to be like in that atmosphere and that arena. We have a call later today to go over some marching orders. Ufc wise but it's going to be weird but you know Jimmy. These cancer pretty noise cancelling your focused on the action. I'm not sure it's GonNa feel as differ to us as people think it Mike. While I'm so claustrophobic I always wear one on one off and I feel like I'm getting a little hot here like it's going a little with. I always leave one off because I feel like I'm GonNa Fishbowl and I have to be for many reasons terrible play by play announcer because I'd be too distracted by the noise around me. I have to hear the outside. I can't have my headphones on Mighty. They would kill me. John me you something the quarantine. What's an average day for you. How you breaking up the day? What are you doing so You know we were doing the home schooling for a while. Now it's the distance learning that is more associated with the school so there's legitimate work that has to get done like our kids have legitimate work that has to be completed. So it's a big part of the undertaking. One of us is assigned to my one and a half year old son at all times. He's head to head smashes over the fifty five days or so but it's been really hard you know. I know people have much harder. Circumstances than I'm dealing with but just with the three kids getting restless. The older one is starting to get concerned. The daddy's leaving so the kids have sort of been at the at the center of everything that I've been doing but I can't wait to get out of here. Man Just I gotta get Outta here. I really do. I think I'm a better father when I have a little bit of that separation and a I'm ready to go and and hopefully I think the big question for us is when we get home. What exactly are we going to do? Are we in quarantine away from our kids for forty eight hours or so? We don't know exactly what the Protocols GonNa be. But that's probably at the forefront of my concern right now as to how to handle it when I do come home. Isn't it nice to be working though like isn't it nice to have something to focus on and because there's so many people that are just literally running in circles hoping for check because they can't work their jobs are not open so just to be mentally focused on something like man? I'm really lucky to have a job that I'm still able to do that. Is the RUB right there. And we were so prepared for April eighteenth that I felt like I had already prepped. Sixty percent of that show so while everybody else was shouting boredom I was completely immersed in pay per view preparation and have been really for the better part of a month. I've never been in a better place in terms of my fighter cards in my preparation for UFC to forty nine. I'm used to having a bunch of shows leading into these patients. Dark for two months so I'm just ready to go boys speaking about being prepared. I think this the the fact that just got push-back Justin's fight would would tony. I get to help them. I mean a lot for other people. It's only a couple of weeks later. That does mean a lot for if I can. It really does. And we make a big difference if he says he had eighteen or nineteen minutes. Pure hell for Tony. A few weeks ago in theory to see twenty-five minutes of Health Forum. Now right well he's got the same mentality regardless but I definitely yes. It could do nothing but help him. The fact that the fight got wander for a guy like Francis in Gato who I think is the athlete that I've talked to you guys about probably the most in our time. He has built over the years. He's been going hard for like sixteen weeks and I do think you get to a point where it's just too much. I mean all indications are that. He's handled it pretty well. But for him and Rosen strike. I mean these guys have been in camps since like January. One roses strike seems dialed in though man. We had him on here the other day he. I mean I'm thinkin `bout asking him you still used to your power believing your power now you're fighting arguably the most powerful heavyweight ever knew Z. Does it kind of missile? You Game Plan and I don't think this guy's GonNa be looking for any disguise. I don't think he truly believes innes striking and look at his last fight. He shows that he's dangerous even if there was a that was a twenty five minute fight or fifteen minutes five around. That was five rounds so the very end. It's the very end did not get. He did not get discouraged in that fight that he was behind what that means. He's because a lot of guys heavyweights especially the powerful guys. There's some of the power goes away after a little bit after around the to you know. Wait until the different. Because he's fighting the St Francis. Let's Ebay you know. Some of the power was the enemy whose editors is tired and whatnot. But maybe if because Rosie strike is a smaller heavyweight. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that he doesn't get the right right but you are right it with four seconds to go in that fight against Dallas drove him he stayed technical and set off the ending blow with a Jab. So you're absolutely right about Rosen's strike in Ghana's WHO's had a couple of weird outliers in his career certainly the Derek Lewis fight that we have talked about and steep a fight as well but you know Vegas has the over under in this fight at around and a half right over under seven and a half minutes of fighting. I can't foresee a scenario whereby we're seeing a third round between these two guys. I mean maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Rosen strike will be a little bit tactical gotta would times has gotten off to slower than ideal starts but I think this is a one round fight and I think someone's twitching on the canvas at the end. It was just the the difference too is this isn't in new. I think before the steepest. He admitted he was overconfident. And that you look at dos Santos and Kane and Curtis Blades first round knockout. You remember we talked to him. He was Jonesing for a fight. He's like there's nobody for me to fight but there might be something that might be. I guess roses strike was what he was referring to at that point but I think you have the same God that you had before this debate fight. But without the overconfidence those two losses may have actually made him a better fighter. My my point is with the Francis mentality. Whatever you said it pretty much Jimmy. He took out two former champions in Kane and Jay. Since he had that hiccup what the what the Derek Lewis fight you know what I mean so I mean he. He is and we look at a guy like cave allows. You might a guy if anybody you're afraid it's going to that same game plan going to be used as as us with the clinching striking and he has a great cardio. I agreed. Cardio is I was really worried to Francis and that one I go man I was Gonna you went in there with no fs given and he just unleashed so I think he is back in a major way man I all. I would've shot. He's gun shy. I feel he's chomping at the bit he's been wanting to fight for awhile and he's on a mission and I just I was just watching the embedded to he looks fucking stir holding pansy strike. And I'm surprised as he comes up on his twelfth. Ufc appearance and of course he can't win about this weekend. I'm surprised that he's twelve flights in and does not have any sort of UFC belt. At home I do believe that isn't eventuality. And I do believe that. If and when Francis in Ghana has the heavyweight title he will take requisite Nextstep to superstardom. He is our Mike Tyson. His English is getting better literally every day. You saw that in embedded so I'm excited for the future. But for Rosen strike to call the promotion or I guess on the microphone with me to ask to fight this guy I mean. Do you guys see like when referees are going in there to pull Francis in Ghana off of J. D. S. or Cain? They're going in there trying to save a man's life that the action right now one more hammerfest. He might kill him and we have to wrap up because of Alexander Hernandez waiting apparently but I will say to the roses strike. Hey he did. He was the winner. But I thought that overeating was up. If I remember correctly it was four. Nothing going into the fifth and I think that was definitely a you. Said he set that punch-up beautifully but that was also overeen. I mean as veteran as he is making a mistake and letting his guard down at the very end so I think that was much as over his mistake is it was a rosen strike. Make a great move. I know we gotta go in a second. Y- Jeremy Stevens Verse Calvin Cater. I mean come on only because it's not getting enough attention on this car. I can understand that. So many great fights but holy Shit. I'm looking forward to that. We'll do johnny. That fight is definitely cut from the same cloth. Ferguson at can't possibly be bad and caters looking for some respect on his name. You know Jeremy Stevens gets a lot of credit rightfully so for the longevity fighting everybody a lot of big wins but calvin cater turned pro in two thousand seven right. He's got twenty a wins and he just doesn't necessarily feel that love and and certainly he can get a lot of that love he can knock out Jeremy. Somehow this weekend and can we mentioned that his last fight which I mean you know three right. He was coming on strong in that third round. Yeah couple more rounds. That might have been a different story. And he's looking like a beast really quick before we let you go streaming what. You're watching anything. I just got into every ozark. I didn't like it but I I started to watch back by. I started and I stopped it. But I'm GonNa give because you ever see Ozark. Y'All yeah in the beginning he's looking at the cook is there. I couldn't get into it. I'm like I stand. I couldn't say but now I gave it a shot. You know exactly that he's brilliant. I'm GONNA give it another shot. I'm getting into it. He's fucking awesome. One of my favorite shows for sure and I'm going to start season three. I was doing the tiger king thing for a while and then the last dance but I do have to say when you're essentially doing childcare from six. Am to nine PM of some kind. Every day. I don't have much left for TV at nine so Not as much as as the average manner in this team but I don't know maybe when the kids get a little bit older will get back to that show and your podcast Kenny. Florian quick shout out on long. Oh yet it's been great to get back to pick and fights you know. We created this like right now for pound tournament for a few weeks just to fill the time and we do best is previewing shows and making predictions and then recap in them after the fact so thankfully to get back to business and In a big way obviously with three fights here eight days meant so I know it's a big week when UFC unfiltered calls. Must be big talk you soon. John have a good time and enjoy it and back to work appreciate it. Alexandra where the hell have you been every since you took out you bounce back after the loss cowboy? God's raise your fight Iq and you came back. Took a very tough. We've been that was in July. We miss you. Yeah on some. She's been going on in the world. Solano studios changed exactly. That's been a bit of a factor nominee that lasts fault which Rinaldo I went in and out fight with a bucket handle Taryn my labor So immediately. Afterwards I had to get surgery. I didn't want to cancel the fight. It was a hometown showing. They've only been to San Antonio. That was the second time ever and so. I had a had to pay homage to the city and definitely definitely represent so I I didn't decline that fight. I took it by Right afterwards to get shoulder surgery and in the recovery process was little extensive. So I had to do that and I was geared up Around November I went on this Middle Eastern tour for the troops and at that point I was able to start kind of grappling with those guys January. Gonda full camp swing and then I was GONNA go by by February March But you know the world shutdown so so now. We're now here we are. How has this affected you? And your ability to train because guys are coming up with some pretty clever ways to train or staying with one training partner. How have you managed to do it now? We been working pretty Pretty seamlessly you know. Fortunately Kohner my own gym and so I kind of leeway over that I have the keys to the door so we just we just butcher taped up the windows and the place looks like a like a damn meth lab. But we just we just got cooking in the cage. Man Business Usual. Fortunately my teammates my coaches have everybody Just just sorta stuck to the script and and My my per Brazilian confidence didn't seem to talk and they just kept coming in so it was. They just don't seem to worry about things like viruses so so we were goodman And also being out here on this island San Antonio I'm used to I'm used to limited resources so you know we operated pretty seamlessly so you still in San Antonio or have you gone to Jacksonville you no. We're in San Antonio and man. I'm happy with the itinerary because we're not going out the Jacksonville until Sunday which is bad ass. I was scared. We'RE GONNA be out there. You know Friday Saturday For one I was going to be looking at forty nine on my you know my iphone and And I figured resources are Pretty Pretty Limited. Pre scarce out there so Fortunately we'll be here the entire week. Go out there Sunday. Probably get a little work in that night and then it just cut the way to fight. So I'm real happy about that but how much sorry about. How much is San Antonio opened up? I know Texas has done is ahead of New York and a lot of places. How much have you guys opened up? Man I think may I The city start opening up again. It was real crazy thing. You know it's been a rollercoaster city. Shut Down I was on lockdown Starting about a month or so ago and I believe we're kind of getting back into an open group again on Fridays when they start happening. But you know I mean we. Kinda live in a bubble people talk about quarantine and they're freaking out about being isolate. I mean campus quarantine man. I'm home Jim Jim. I don't see anybody it's just it's just business so so. I mean I feel like I've been in quarantine for months and months now. Nothing's really changed. That's what I was getting issue like. I'm put myself in your mindset. Now you're a twenty seven year old dude so being in quarantine does it. Sometimes there's distractions sometimes. Maybe the girlfriend wants to go to a restaurant. Like I don't WanNa have the bread in front of me or whatever somebody wants to go to a rave whatever it is letter nipples and we fucking girl for doesn't mind. Yeah Anyway. So it'll be an intriguing in quarantine your limit those distractions or are you just a monk. Anyway draining you. How is a different training warranty? Yeah I definitely go go into. That is funny. You say that I call it monk mode you know where it's like. I kind of remove myself of all vices and so I I would say the The isolation factor and the the discipline the The monotony of going from eight A. B. With home and Jim that's pretty much usual. What was crazy. Was you know trying trying to like trying to get basic needs like groceries and things? 'cause you know like life is still kind of okay and you go. The grocery store in feels like you know the apocalypse happening and people are freaking out and the mask and you know I remember in the beginning A freshly a joke about it. Because like I'm new braunfels which is in between San Antonio and Austin I drive San Antonio for my Jimmy Work and go to Austin for coaches and work and you go in those major cities and it was like if you didn't have a mask on you know folks people were looking at him and the aisles that you had an AK47 take a breath and so those times are hectic eggs off the shelf. I love eggs. Dude I love egg like Shit like that you know just getting basic necessities was hectic major. A little worrisome and definitely definitely create a lot of tension for the camp In the sense of again just kind of keeping my routine. I was able to do that and unfortunately try started coming through a little late but they started coming through it. So I got those meals. Mailed over to me you know. I've got some sponsor Sunray juicier in San Antonio who was able to some food and so that that was what we call the rhythm we we were flowing but but it was definitely crazy in the beginning now. Does the idea. And most guys have said they don't know if it'll affect them or not the idea of fighting without a crowd. I know you train without a crowd. We heard some interesting things from guys after Brasilia where there were certain elements of it that were took getting used to Does that concern you at all or is that something you've thought of it? All fighting like empty stadiums. You know the whole cup you got you got these like you know especially like the the big organizations find Shawnee Oklahoma before I got into the US. Ryobi like thirty four Natives just like these weird squeals stretches but it wasn't like really a Krauss. I'm usually going into that and in the UFC. I've been fifty fifty. I've been booed at the time I've been. I've been applauded and cheered half the time so it beats being booed you know I'm cool with With whatever I I've been kind of Mentally preparing for for the The silence and really the focus. Sound long did you. Drew drew dober- because you had a couple of guys I I believe yes. Yeah I mean th and that man. That was crazy the whole I mean even before that the process of that I five prepare for. Uc to forty nine was just Madness because you know gearing up for this thing we don't have any location and then I hear to be bounced out to Russia and so then I can only assume Islam was with them but I don't hear anything about five days so in my mind. I'm like man. I've got a pretty confident feeling. I don't have an opponent nor do I have the location. Everybody around me. He's like man. There's no way that's going to happen but I had kind of like stay on this optimistic mountaintop. Ufc and else you know. Just kind of Make sure I lose sight of the task and then Then we got confirmation. Islam was out then. I thought Michael Johnson might be the opponent he seemed game and then it changed like a ten minute notice a rallies yes or no and then I was like I mean. Yeah whatever MOMS Gimme. GimMe the fiber nearly a week out. So got him and then one week the fico pulled out then so then dowsman. The fact isn't it's not a basketball game dude. You know you can't just one week before. There's there's you've you've watched this whole culminate and then you're going to pull the rug out from underneath us. It's like man you wish more people had had the experience that we had but but going into After after that car fell out they talked about may ninth. I said I don't want to do that because our be strung out. By the time I get to get to the fight and it's going to happen And then another week or two weeks past and then They said Dober- needs an opponent for May thirteenth. At which point I said fuck it. You know I'm not getting any I'm not getting any better. Not Getting any looser. You know I I need to get this fire. I need to get some preparations for always worked put in so. If it's a two week turnaround we both got two week. Notice for the fight. I I've been a camp since January. Man I'm ready to go. Yeah yeah point where you just want to. I'm going to go. I honestly like all time. I swear to God and better than I've ever been in like just just having my right arm man. I didn't have my right arm for so much of two thousand nineteen and now it's back and it's like wow equilibrium scenarios and you know everybody's dealing with it so no matter what it is or any annoyance. You hadn't camper anything that you weren't able to do you know everybody across the board is dealing with the same crap so there's no real advantage a disadvantage for anybody. Yeah thousand percent man and like every camps riddle was some kind of obstacles. You know like this. It's like this time. We had a pandemic honestly on. It's way more fortunate than being injured so we got people got sick. We get over it but you never pull out of a fight. Because you've got a call you never have a fight The stuff that hurts you know the only time you might might have some. It's broken and I says out of respect for yourself your opponent your employer so I mean it's opportunistic when a camp is riddled with obstacles and it just makes it that much more Cathartic when you get to the fight and you felt like that you'll coach. He has the positive for the the covert one thousand nine hundred and you feel like you've probably had it in and trained druid that Yeah Yeah. I mean we've got a few guys on the team tested to get the antibody They paychecks now for donating plasma. So I'M GONNA have to get on that as his fights up. It's just another thing man. It's like it's like if you did put a label on it. Would I call? I just call it having having a cold flu. Haven't whatever and I would just say man because that's my job. That's what I'm expected to do a sound supposed to. And I brought myself up to to be the best to be a champion so like you start feeling under the weather like it's a warrior's code. You know like you start got under the weather. You're not just GONNA pull out. You gotTa keep going through like I said you owe it to yourself your to your your Your teammates or coaches. Yo- everyone employer your opponent so You just get through this shit man like I said every camp every camp has some obstacle that this time. This was the obstacle. When you're sick what's harder for you like. Is it getting out of bed and making yourself start? And then you're okay or is it finishing a workout that you've already started like for me getting started doing anything. That's a great point. It fluctuates sometimes. It'd be getting up and you're like you just exhaustion. You feel weak and when it was too extreme it might be just like go for a walk. That walk would be Nauseating and so maybe you just take that day or two off But but what? I noticed a lot of times when I got going was like I feel okay The beginning I was feeling really good and then I would start training and then I would start like a finding myself over like Just feel an feeling nauseous feeling weak feverish and so then I would have to lay off a bit but again used grind it through to four or five days in straight back at it and and I I take so much precaution in my health. It's like I I'm used to just swallow you know. Now let me issue. Xango your thoughts on the twenty Fergus. In just engaging fight stokes man. I mean it's so funny weight divisions fucking bonkers right. Because you wanna see that Ferguson. Can he fight so bad? But Jesus Man Ferguson engage he. That's like the scariest the scariest of all time you know and I'm really really happy that it got extended the way it did because honestly I was even excited for it before because I wanted to get you to have his doing camp. You know I I was I was. I was almost bummed out that it was going to happen because a fight like that. You wanted each man to have there the respect camps before meeting and so now that they have a hope that a Ferguson's not strung out or anything like that by the time he gets there. I think I think that guy get pretty much weather any storm. Anyway I think he's going to be okay But yeah I mean. I'm excited about that. Five that she can go either way gauge been fighting lately he's You could tell US evolves. Something's clicked in his mind in the last few fights. He's much more calculated with his rangers. Timing IS ENGAGEMENT. And so the way he's been fighting he can easily. He's he's GonNa sit Ferguson down. It's just what happens after that. It's funny we were just talking about this and I was saying the same exact thing. I think it's great that it actually got cancelled postponed. Whatever you WANNA call it because he gets those extra weeks in and you know as a fighter a couple extra weeks is a big deal is game changing. Yeah absolutely not in day and know you know. He's probably been staying ready. He's right so I think probably the perfect amount of time and I'm sure Ferguson. Again is his mental fortitude. You know unprecedented so I think I think I think there was a guy who had kinda get strung along through camp series. That would be the guy who can handle it. The best and gauges a guy who can handle the the the late the late minute. Come through the follow up on that. Which one of those guys do you think matches better would have been trusted Tony Man? That's that's really tough. I think both of them have the capability of beating him. I think Ferguson would shock be more though because of How UNORTHODOXY is is going to cash. And there's something you look at Ferguson. In his legs. Look so stiff. You know he's sansom stiff when he when he catches you it can be a jab. It could be anything a stickiest punches in the world man they just talking stick to you like glue and then they break you know and it's like Gabby gets linked to the few of those. He hasn't been hit like that before. You know. People talk about that one Johnson Exchange. But he hasn't really been yet he been busted open. Ferguson makes you believe so I think I think he gets linked with a few of those again. Ferguson's the guy who's not lose any ounce composer on his back if he does get taken down which I'm sure it would but he's GonNa make them work he's GonNa make them work like hell. So I think Ferguson is going to be more UNORTHODOX fighter But again gateway gateway just been fighting. He can be any one of those guys can be the champion right now. His legs aren't stiffly. Does that fucking L. Cuckoo dance dance minority role and I'm not saying no but both stance watching move and he gets so Clinton sometimes sticks and it's like man but that would be the one thing I would look to try to like Make a disadvantage for Ferguson. Is how he almost looks like. He locks his knee. Sometimes that would be like something I would be trying to analyze. Break them apart. Well I'll tell you what I think. I'll tell you what this interview and what I'm going to read up on his. I love you mentality of fancy pants you it seems to me. They went through three guys. It didn't matter who you got to show up as an opponent and drew. Dober- is a fucking stunned? So this is another one of fights that I read of these. This coming up this on Saturdays Amazing but on the thirteenth card. It's another one that gets you know we want to. Because some of these fights get lost in the mix. I got this. I mean true jobs looking great in his last couple of fights sure and much like the fight. We just talked about that. They just inverse. Abib is just as interesting and Tony. Uber's through daughters interesting. If not more than you might think that's up there. I think I think this whole thing. So fortuitous man like it. It's the most like the vine culmination of Shit because Islam. Fight great but that who knows how that fight that that could have been a grappling war for what job is a guy especially coming off his last few victories. He's GonNa come in their cocky. He's going to bring it and I need someone game like that. I've also never had the opportunity and not that. He's like shy of that position by never had the opportunity to fight somebody out of the top fifteen every ever since I got thrown to the Wolves. Top ten top fifteen guys every single one of them at the point of sign the contract whether or not they were ranked at the day of the fight. They were when we signed the contract and so This kind of a step out Love just the rankings. I get to get a fun. Fight is what it feels like a guidance. Game a guy who's going to bring it and a guy who's trying to make a statement and for me I. I think it's like just the biggest opportunity to get a highlight reel. How many fights are the have? Did you have before you had that fight with cowboy? That was my third fight in the AFC. I hadn't even had. I still haven't even have fifteen fights that sixty five total county my amateur career so like that was my that was my third ever the USC. Yeah I mean that that moment. Just kind of Me Up a little bit. But Mana between internal though last year finding veterans like that do I have gained so much. Experience has so much so much composure. Just just just so much confidence in in in in my just standing cage not not act impulsively you know. And that's something people don't don't really you for really really acknowledge This is obviously a great. I'm happy for you and I'm happy for drew to. I like him as well. And you guys are the third fight on that card. That whole card is great as well and everyone is going to be watching it. You're right it is a good chance to get is on Youtube. Because there's no sports everybody's GONNA be watching you guys are on. Espn correct man. I don't even know you could tell me Ron Disney stave. Don't give me I just found out we're having a cue. Tips shoved up our brain whole so I like. Did you see that test finding out information the way you guys are men just like minute by minute? More very impressive Tony Ferguson. I seen take that thing that guy give another thing that makes them even more matic. Probably they'd probably double court. Did it in flesh you blake. Yea Hey speaking of Disney plus. What is streaming? You Watch anything at home. I always like the I just found out today. Just now Jimmy on. I love this series. It just came out of the six seasons of Vikings. Watch that Shit. You just started watching Vikings. I'm up to the see. I'm up to the last season but I watch Amazon prime. That's the show that that's a good ash show and it's funny. I I was watching it and then I got kicked out of Hulu. Some time ago I don't know maybe too. Many people are accessing. Michael Barr someone else's got out. You know how these strict minus lost contact with Lulu and I haven't gone back in so I just kind of fell off the series. But I'll tell you what though I just got back into a Hulu account via a girlfriend sister. Shout Out And so now I'm watching. Dave who fucking hilarious sharply buddy show. I never heard of that right now. Heard a little dicky not I can roosevelt. So rapper named Lil dicky Who kind of want a median. But then kind of found his outlet and rat Is now is now writing and directing the TV show and it's called day that's his name so essentially about him in this white rapper in a predominantly black cultured Art Form and so he's It's it's it's hilarious. He's he's like a satirical rapper and and the show do you watch that show. You will laugh your Dick off. Duty Larry Dave Dave but just came out this year. Burn through it. It's real short. Sweet knows ten episodes thirty minutes each. You just watch it while you're folding laundry. Whatever man it's going I'm going to I've never heard of it. Yeah I'm GonNa Watch Vikings. Yeah now I'm GonNa Vikings I need. I like to get hard before the fight week. You know so sometimes alternate between a little comedic relief and then some some real so real like Viking warrior. Ask Shit you know. Get that testosterone and get good luck on the thirteenth man. I think that's a Wednesday my correct. That's different right gets onto so a lot of people be able to watch this and it's good to have live Emma back so good luck man we we love your fighting in can't wait to see this through. Dover exist take care be well hey man let me tell you something. Jimmy I like. I like all the fights coming up super excited for this weekend. Jimmy I mean I can't say enough I know we'll be signing a second. I just want to say one more time. This fucking car Jimmy. I'm so excited I engaged pseudo. Crews Francis Rosen strike journey Stevens. Calvin gator Greg Hardy. Oh Greg Hardy by the way I want. She's opponent your Castro heated and I like him because he looks a little chubby sledge in his hands. He did the old Marquan when he knocked out his opponent. It was fun. And don't even mentioned the prelims in the early prelims. They're all insane. Catholic announced insane. Jimmy every everything. What about doom. Nobody's Michelle what's interest spas and also Jock. Ravers or friend your whole at the opening fight of the prelims correct. Yes Jimmy Jimmy. He's walking it's crazy crazy. Quarantine invite you over I would. I would go Charles Rosa. Bryce MITCHELL PAL obvious. Fighting the opening fight of the early prelims part is fucking incredible. So listen the next time. I talk to you if maybe over the weekend but the next time we broadcast together we will have a fights to talk about Jimmy really quick. I know we haven't done this in a while three bytes. Let's three twenty exhibit gates. You go I am going to take gay chee third round stoppage and I love H E I do I walk into. I'm going to be that guy who goes. Well it's early. It's going to be Aga lady again. No I'm going to get off the fucking fence and I'm GONNA say man. It is so rough. Do just I'm going to say Tony. I in fourth round stoppage. Okay okay makes you more likely by strangle. Yeah Henry Jehuda. Over the crews. Do I bet with my heart or do I bet with my head. We'll Jimmy well. Who's what your Heart Dominick Cruz? You're not to be manageable. See I like him too. I am more a dominant. I like Henry a lot but I'm more of a dominant cruise fan. I you know I'm saying I'm going to cut you off there okay. I don't blame you because you're you're you're really struggling with this. I WANNA say pseudo second round stoppage now. I'M GONNA say Dominick Cruz by decision. Because this guy he's been in this so so long he's got such a fucking high fight. Iq I wouldn't be surprised if he took down shallow in these exchanges because he has he can switch levels very fast. He's got a very unique style. A style I believe that Dominic cruise for more aggressive type fighters like Henry who not that. He's really wanted to say there's a lot of guys like him because he's unique and his own because he just thought but he's for similar fighters than she who doted dominick Cruz. Yeah probably right. I'M GONNA to say Dominick Cruz by decision. Because I think shoot does a tough tough guy he's going to be able to take licking but I think cruises in a comeback and it's going to be something to be talked about. Well you look at pseudo. And that fight. He had with Marlin Rice. Which I guess I ended in around three. Tko with that first round was Kilian who does extremely tough. And the only reason I'm going with him and early is because he has looked so ferocious early but it's hard to bet against dominant to like. I really love dominant cruise. So let's go no. You didn't go yet. I'm sorry I know because my first instinct was pseudo in the second round. I hate to say that though because I really like dominic more doing the old fucking. Oh I'll take in the second all right good right there you can do first round in Ghana in the first round knockout wow yeah rosy strike doesn't like that. Shay I like Roseanne stripy. You know. What as far as I'm concerned he's great but older mm-hmm I thought it was such a smart veteran found a way to win four rounds and I thought he won that fight. I thought that was over. He was fighting. Referee's mistake so I'm GonNa take in Ghana in the first round. Jimmy you know many fights that Roja strike loss non-pleased ten ten in. Oh yeah he's never tasted defeat now. He's never he's never been. He's bought some tough guys but in Ghana who is different. You know I mean he he knocks out guys who have fought tough guys. Listen I like Rosa strike a lot and I'm big for the underdog round. Do you taking in GonNa win. I'M GONNA say it's GONNA come out. It's going to be a fast and furious fight. And I'm going to say the second round for Francis Okay. I'm seeing it hanging there for that first round. And that's good. That's the story that way we could just wanted to more like not doesn't matter like a and here's why. I'm taking Francis in the first because I talk a lot about reach and I know like when you get a Cormet who's one of the best fighters in history. That's the guy who closes distance really well but again it's not as easy to close distance. I think at a guy like on a guy like Francis and I think that roses strikes GonNa try to get in and he's going to have to get clipped a couple of times to get in and I think that's why Francis Pizza in the first round but again I'm wrong all the time. What the fuck domino telling cater Jeremy Stevens do the whole main card. Come on I. I live a hard time picking these guys because I really have something for these old school like they even all calkins not really old school guy either. They remind me of a throwback both of these guys remind me of a throwback you know I like Jeremy Stevens Alive Calvin gator. I like what they're made up. I catered by decision. Catered by decision I think cater second round third third-round stoppage shit. I'm saying and I love Jeremy Stevens. I'm just I just think that they're both be laying on the line and I think Getting just flashbacks in my mind. Of Calvin Kate oversaw They Cardo Mental yes. I was there for that. So maybe that's why it stuck in my brain so I think and I don't I'm not I don't. I'm still on the band wagon if there was fight with Sabih. 'cause I think it's not a fight starts at its telephone. Ends Dude was coming on strong so I WANNA see some of the same in this fight and Jeremy Stevens is a great dance partner. Yeah but he's also coming off of his winless in his last four fights three losses one no contest with the air. So I don't see him. I know just stopped him with punches in the in the first round I I don't see him being stopped then again. It's hard to pick against him. Chris do I see him losing? I don't see him. Being winless in five fights either self loses. It's going to be a decision Greg. Hardy for Yoga. Yorgen decastro. That's interesting Greg Haughty. He's a beast to but he kind of fucked up in his last one didn't he didn't think he fought on short notice and lost a decision and it was to hear it was to Alexander. Volkov was more impressed with it was in. Moscow was more impressed with hardy in the loss. Then I was with Volkov which they already wasn't wasn't well he had short notice. There's something going on with to that fight. I think he's he's a beast. I know he works with our good friend. Dean Thomas the fuck data. I'm going with your into Castro because I could be a little chubby. Sometimes I feel like power so maybe I'm just I'm just. I'm just feeling something for that. Dude I mean I just watched his last fight and he did that walk off the knockout and it was something to be of a Justin Kaffa. Tell you right now. He's a fucking beast man. I listen that's one taking. You're taking hardy. I don't know I mean you're right to Castro got down. He is good. You know what Hardee's due for a win hearty second round. Knockout Jimmy. Jimmy Jimmy. Listen we could do. We could even do all the fights but let's just stop it at that. Okay I'M GONNA go finish the not just go sponsor but let me tell you about the Buffalo Wild Wings. Waiting for me downstairs. I'm going to eat those boneless wings and I'm going to have those fries and I'm going to watch the Embedded okay and then. I'm you know watch. Vikings Season Sixers came out. I can't wait dude Jimmy but it could show what a good show. Okay and what about you my friend? What are you doing the rest of the day honestly? I'm probably just going to have coffee and relax and not do anything. I'm just looking forward. I have radio tomorrow morning and I got the fight this weekend. And that's all I'm doing when you also got what you've got a friend in me. I audio cut on your got a friend in me. Y'All Jamie no matter where you you got a friend in me. Anything else up. That's it that's all I take on toy story. Jimmy don't know words Jimmy. Nowhere to single back Jimmy out attitude texture during the fights yes please do Jimmy. I miss you pal. Sorry about that okay. I'll talk to you later my God.

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Ep. 2,842: Mark Henry and Ben Fowlkes

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Ep. 2,842: Mark Henry and Ben Fowlkes

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I can actually I can see my mama right here. He's in Peru. Sear, dan. Beautiful, mama. I'm yeah. And then that's my cousin Gloria and she's next to her. And then my cousin Ramsey in the background. So I was FaceTime ING with them before the show started. And they said, well, we want to see the actual want to see the show start. You know, some face timing him here for a few minutes. But as you all know have an who's very sick. So keep them in your thoughts and prayers I think I mentioned that last week and he's battling. He's a tough, man. And you know, we're the power of prayer strong. Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers Manca Lugo may pull through you know, because we're all thinking about and we all need him to continue with us here. It's too soon for him. And he's a great person. Great, man. All right today shows a fun show. Things are going to happen in the first hour that's gonna keep us really really busy. Ben folks is gonna stop by one of the top writers in mixed martial arts. If you've ever heard my top ten. You know, member may media listings, he's usually at the top or you know, in the top three. And I think in the latest one that I did this past December. He was my number one guy. So he does a hell of a job for USA today. Sports and my mate junkie. So he'll he'll be stopping by as well. One of the top coaches in the sport of mixed martial arts. Mark Henry not to be confused with pro wrestler in world's strongest man, Marquette marine, but Marquette coach to Marlin mariah's for Frankie Edgar Caitlyn Kagan. So they'll both be in the first hour. And then of course, the second hour is wide open. Call in eight seven seven fight Ninety-three. Eight seven seven fight Ninety-three would love to talk to you about anything going on in the world of mixed. Martial arts to big fight bookings to talk about just engaging. Edson Barboza have song. They're going to mix it up as will Paulo Kosta and y'all Romero, man. I saw those two, Dan, Tom. And I was like, whoa. Okay. That's some fight books. And that's something to talk about right there. You know that away who doesn't wanna. See those those guys fight. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say touchback real quick. I haven't done any kind of rankings. But I would I would rank Ben right up there number if not number one definitely issue in for top three, and you were one year one name away from one of my favorite movie quotes could Ben is so close to Bob and Bob. Oh, my. One guy, George. Yeah. He. You know, he's I think we're even he doesn't know this. I set a trap. He asked you for a favorite at cashed in right away. It was one of the fastest caches ever of a favor Benz actually going to do the daily debate with a SEIs. So it'll be nice to get him on there. Actually, I what is that quote from Dan. Now, you got me thinking I thought I knew it. But. Venture a guess or let me just tell you the original Batman Michael Keaton. The jokers got you got you. All right. So goes off caring for just a bit. But we're still here chugging along like we always do. And by the way, if I haven't said this, I should I should say more often stop by anytime you'd like we're at the Mandalay bay resort and casino. We're in the sports book, and you can walk in and hang with us. You got a fridge full of cool water suffer today. I think the order comes in on Wednesday. We'll get about eight cases you actually got alcohol there too. If you guys, you know, want to partake in an adult beverage and a couple of seats in some headphones for you to listen to the show, if you give me enough notice, I'll do my best to have an enemy superstar here for you to meet in fact, tomorrow stitched Iran's gonna be here and then on Thursday Henry pseudo is gonna stop by with zella Z so fun week scheduled here on the enemy junkie radio show. Again, our guest today. Marc Henry, and Ben folks, sorry, guys. So welcome goes Ella. You're right. Yeah. We're just putting out some fires, right? Everything. Good though. Oh, pretty cool technology. Yeah. Oh nice. Yeah. They're live. That's our mom. That's our mom. No. That's our week. Yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. That's right. That's aren't Sonia. A second ago was my cousin Gloria that's what I was like, oh, man glories not gonna sh-. She's in think that you didn't even remember her now. No, all right. Speaking of putting out fires. I really want to shout out to goes, you know. And also the listeners who've been hanging hanging strong with us to the YouTube chat. We can always find us streaming the show. But yeah, you know, had a little bit streaming boast. But goes was doing the job that nobody wants to. He was he was he was taking care of business with caucus today. And. Josh before. And and yeah. So I throw that in there. I gotta take that one. Yeah. I know ain't no. Did you solve anything? I mean kind of. 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The posted hours later, the I two so there, I think I got it all covered. But anyway goes did you see those matchups? Pau pollock. I love nothing better guys than the go on EMI junkie dot com in. My favorite news is a fight, bulky. That's your favorite is. Well. I'm not saying it's dumb or anything. I'm just asking. I mean other. Maybe if one of the ring card girls is releasing per calendar or something sure I'll glance through those pictures. I like most parts mints data announcements. Now, we're going to blah, blah, blah, right? Yeah. I like that too. Specially so Callen Vegas. We're kind of used to. We know what we're getting. You know, we we're getting an end of the year show and international fight week show. A couple of catch me off guard by love nothing more than the kit. Emma, Mejia dot com, and then all of a sudden bam. There's so fight bookings their Paolo consta- versus y'all remarried. You see that one? Yes. In miami. They're going to Miami. They haven't been there in a few years. And then the other one is saw was Edson Barboza versus Justin gage didn't somebody on this show say that they go to Florida was you or a caller that they go to Florida right around that time, and we all kind of went really now, you don't remember that it's like a couple of weeks ago in April. Who is that? It wasn't. It wasn't me. I think it was a caller call. They always go to Florida at the certain time. We all really know. It wasn't wasn't goes, April April. They also have a FOX show and Moskva doll said, I think he. Again, did that he knew of something coming around that way. But but he also wanted to fight till in London. Right. Yeah. So I wonder if I mean that's done, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you would imagine it's not like they put a cardigan, then try new, and they just didn't do that. I suppose that if when does he ever get the easy road? If that has you know, we have an outcome in that fight. And he's not hurt. He'll probably wanna fight Miami. As well. Imagine that would be about. Roughly eight week turnaround or he could pull it off. He took almost a year off it'll be more than ear by the time. You actually it's been more than a year as of right now. But it'll it will have been probably close to about sixteen months by time. He fights. You shouldn't be taking time off like that. I I know that he got paid and he did Exelon, and he got shape, and he had a great experience. But right now is this time, you know, what? I mean, a lot of those guys they just need to make that that run towards Tyron Woodley because that is a stack division. It is. It's a it's a wrestler division to kind of like the. Kind of like the not a sidetrack. But you know, I think he's Anthony Anthony Pederson, you know, saying he's excited about Walter way. But also realizing you know, he's got teammates up their affiliations. Whether it's asking her Woodley. But also kind of knowing that hey, you know, guys know what waits at the top of that division. Right. Yeah. For sure especially with the addition of aspirin, and you got Comorros ankle becoming thin. I mean, that's four or wrestling based type fighters, so you got to be able to to wrestle at the highest level Ambyo to have become possible with big nuclear bombs coming at you to get to the top of that that mountain you. All right. Anyway. So you have an immediate reaction to cost an Romero me. Okay. We love it. But what do you see that fight? What what kind of weight? Does it carry off cost a gets a victory there? There's you can't deny guy like that. Right. Especially if he does it at all. The other faction than I didn't sign. You is on the same card is Whitaker now and gasoline. So if he beats Anderson Silva, I don't even have to say an looks good because Hilliker he'll look good. If whoever wins bite's gonna look good. But remember Anderson Silva is also do a title shot should he win? But he can still wait for that to develop. Yeah. He can wait in the wings as the number one contender. But hey, man, Colby Covington changed everything. 'cause you tell shot right away still feel like he needs one more. Although if you'd be Romero said, you're more do you need, but he did say on this show that he's patient, and he didn't mind taking his time to get there. So maybe you're right. But I mean, beating a guy like you'll Romero at that point. I think you could look at yourself and say I'm ready for the big leagues. I'm ready to be doing this at that level. So I think maybe he would wait as the number one contender. But like, I said Colby Covington changed everything you don't know. What's going to happen now? Because Dana why could just flip the script and go, you know, what comes through the great getting never know. Yeah. So true gauge versus Barbosa we had heard those rumors. And and it's now official where it's what's your thoughts are. Watch your lakes. Brutal. It's going to be it's gonna be who goes, Adam. I right because they both have devastating leg kicks Rogan's gonna lose his pants on that fight. He's so he goes, son. That's when the guy throws lake. He's like, oh, he's like I I've achieved is not on the schedule for that. Only. Can I? Yeah. I know I'm only doing a North American pay per view. But can I can usually one show. I mean, the thing with Barbosa is I think even going into it. And I think maybe Gilbert Melendez was part of this like guys, I think just know it's coming and maybe it gets in their head or something. But just engage. He's not the type that doesn't get off his game plan. He tells you where the fights going, and I think those are the type of guys that give Edson problems guys that just get in his face. And from the gecko neighboring the attack to him. Right. That's just engaging. But just engage. It can also be very hard headed literally. So we'll see I mean, he's proven it over and over. I said it's Barbosa you got to kicks do kicks in after two kicks. Now, you gotta win. And what by the way, what is your favorite part of logging onto EMMY junkie. You said a site location a date, and then what's next up? Give me your top three. Well, then it's got to be a fight after that. And then I got an old school shout when he's done. It's this is going to be kind of a joking thing. But when somebody messes up enemy junkie just has this knack for putting the right picture to go with the story. So like if it's. L E. Sometimes when it's Dana might Dana. Why goes on a tirade? He's got this big red face that kind of cracks me up, Dan stuff kind of. Yeah. Yeah. I think he would do that. Has he sending but that and anytime like Steven Morocco does like a really deep deep investigative piece that I know is taken them days and days. I can't wait for that to come out. I automobile school shout to you know, I don't know. I don't know if this was a Dan step initiative like you just mentioned back in the day. Like, you know, I do medicals and whatnot. But I remember as a hardcore fan in two thousand eight two thousand nine going to may junkie for the photos the way in photos, you know, especially if you're, you know, whether you even before I was placing bets, you know, I wanted to see how these guys are coming in looking, you know, it just seemed that's how it'd be introduced a random guys like who's this guy ox Wheeler? This guy is that it looks interesting. You know, you just go through the way. And I don't know who did you guys ever do that the old school junkie lay? Oh, long time ago, but I guess in the era of everything getting streamed Nevada. Good with that. But that is one of our most popular pieces as far as like the traffic that generate you're you're not alone in that one. Yeah. That's a popular one. You pre pre streaming days, especially I gotta imagine right before the Wayne's or stream like, right? Yeah. For sure, but it's still popular to this day. So is play by play. All right, guys, two things, you know, we're still going to recap slowly. But surely, I mean, we've got into a lot of it. But we haven't completely done the whole you have see fight, and I won forty three also known as you see pseudo versus dillashaw also known as you've see Brooklyn also known as you see on ESPN plus one now. There was two fighters that I really liked the way they handled their losses. One of them was Rachel lost of each. It's just in this quote. She said, it's not a bad life just a bad day. So right away, the positivity. I loved it. Because remember she was having a good fight against page van Zandt. And then all of a sudden one of those scrambles page had an amazing back take. And that started the in. Couple couple pops in her elbow. They think that it's not going to be anything serious, but she still needs to get checked out by doctors just to see exactly where we stand. But that neither looked a lot more serious. When people are thinking, maybe a bonus cracked or whatever. But either way I love that positively and then how about this one Alexander Hernandez. He says he put up a post on Instagram and the title here on junkie says I need to learn how to fight. But if you read the Instagram posts, he basically said. It's like a victim of my own success iced Brennan, you'll dare us very quickly. And he had a lot of success. And boom next thing, you know, he's facing Cowboys Sironi, and he feels like Surani may be one of those guys like a steppingstone and even though early on he actually had some moments cowboy made adjustments. He actually said that. And and I didn't know how to adjust and he says I'm gonna learn so much from this. He gave proper respect. But man, I tell you what I was like Bravo. To those two. You know what I mean? Whether it was just a poster the, quote, I I love how the that night. I'm sure they maybe to this moment, they're disappointed, but the started the pieces of of you know, dealing with the loss and looking forward not backwards. Did you guys kind of become Alex Hernandez fans at night? Oh, yeah. I became Alexandra's fan before them. But it didn't hurt me that night. And I'm glad you you asked that goes because I think we're on the same page of that. But. What I did. See, I don't know. If you guys saw what your opinions are on it a lot of people turn on Alexander Hernandez, and I know like for. Yeah. Because of the trash talk in the way it went, and I'm sure down twenty being a below fan. Favourite doesn't you know? So they turned on as of the president home. Who knows one of those things I look at you know, you know, you get you got smash and this and you were going to get that like. But for me, it felt like half the people that were saying that with the same people that if you know Hernandez did with the odds, we're projecting, and he just smashed thrown either would've been like this guy's bad as this guy. Right. George Enron, a you're done. Right. Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? And whereas like, you appreciate this, George because you know, we talk about this on the show. I'm not the biggest trash talk guy per se, but I appreciated the trash talk Hernandez did. And even though it's not my style by any means, I would not do that much much less to a guy like Sarojini respected endangers, dude. Like that. But that's also why I'm not up there, obviously. But I can still appreciate why he did it it may it may not be in his character. Either Hernandez seems like a nice guy. But we've seen the the blueprint you gotta get into rone's head. And this is the this is the fight game at the end of the day. And I I subscribe to that argument, even if you don't feel that way you trying to hurt each other in there. What are if you bad words going to do right? So I'm very forgiving when all in on that fight and let me point to a nineties movie. So you guys are like this. Yes. I'm both would mean while I was born in seventy eight and so I kind of. Okay. So what was the movie with Matt Damon and Edward Norton, the poker movie, round routers. That's right. And do you remember Matt Damon's telling knish one of the characters, you know? Hey, you're styles. The grind it out. Now commits site conditions. Never worked a day in his life. He's always winning, but it's not much. And he's he's you know, he's basically just not putting himself out there to have a colossal fail. Right. Right. So you can do that in mixed martial arts. You know? There's nothing wrong with it. You can do it that way. And slowly, you know, make your move through the sport, and you can do at the Matt Damon way, which is to shove all your chips in and that's what is under Hernandez. Did it got everybody's attention to God everyone fired up including cowboy Cowboys not easy to fire up nowadays. It's been a while since somebody fired up. He's easy shaking hands smiling. Putting his arm around whatever it's no big deal to him. But this guy really really struck a nerve. So he did that. But the payoff would have been amazing because. A lot of people gravitate to that. And if you get one over on cowboy I just think that another big fight would have been forthcoming it didn't work out his way. And so he can do one or two as just be a poor sport and say, well, I'll get them next time excuses and a lot of people do that's what heals do a little bit. Or you can do what he did. So he actually managed to smack talk and respect. But I thought he handled it really really good. So I salute Alexander Hernandez for for trying to go there, and he would've jumped the queue in a lot of light weights. But it just didn't work out. Well, here's what Connor was really really good at. But it did work out for him. The reason why I'm asking you guys are like you both. And if you guys really like I'll I'll Bookham right now. But you've gotta give me a time. How about Friday? Okay. Friday, six pm, right? Don't they have never done anything for you guys? Okay. I'll make that happen. The man over here, by the way, you know, how you had you were trying to book just a guy the other day. Yes. I booked her for tomorrow. Oh, cool. Yeah. You guys like the top gun to do a high a high five over here. I love that. I love that reference up. Maybe because I'm a big rounders phantom. Awesome movie. Hernandez took his three stacks high. Citing took a shot. He took his shot, you know, and it didn't work out. But it may work out the next time. But when you do it, I'm telling you, there's there's a chance you may become a little bit of an overnight superstar. I mean, it was probably a lot of people that don't like calbos or they're just ready for new blood. There's a lot of people might not know the history, you know, Cowboys got to histories, he's a W E C icon. I mean a legend there as well. You had a lot opportunities there. And he's one of the guys that carry the WC then he comes over to the UC, and of course, become an even bigger star. But a lot of people may not even know that part of. Of the cowboy era. And so I if they grew up, and they saw his battles of Varner were awesome. Yeah. Link group and saw Hernandez and what he did the dare you. You know, you may have been a fan of that guy. So you may be riding with dare usual as Hernandez Johnny Chan he sat down with Johnny and took the man you can do it that maybe by the way will last last rounders. No, my favorites when they're breaking down Johnny Chan verse Eric's identities, I look at Channing noses, man. Breaking it down. Like it's fight tape that like he doesn't know what he got himself into the other girl, fam- key Janssen, right? Oh, she's she's it'd be taken as well. So she's a little she's Jean grey as well. Yeah. All right. We gotta take a quick break. There's been a little bit of a reshuffle of the deck. So let's do that we're going to break away here. And we're going to talk to coach Mark Henry when we get back. So you're listening to enemy junk radio on Sirius XM fight nation channel Ninety-three shoutout to Nilda Garcia watching the show in Eric Peru, and we'll be right back. So don't touch that. Dial. But that shit, but the fuck you talking about that to you. No, no, not tonight. This son of beats all died. Tick tick, he tapped me. During the commercial break day. We're all testing for performance enhancing drugs. 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Gotta listen for your opportunity to win the Super Bowl trivia, and that's happening all this week. And again, congratulations to the patriots. And the Rams they are going to be participating in Super Bowl fifty three. All right. Are we ready to go with our guests? Josh. All right. He's one of the best in the business is name is Mark Henry, and he'll be alongside Marlin mariah's Marlin Ryan's headlines. The upcoming UFC on the ESPN, plus two card in Brazil. He will be rematch. Ing hot fail a son sow the coach joins us now on the hotline. What's up? Coach Henry, how are you? Guys, not much, man. Welcome back to e junkie reader. You're on with George goes. And Dan, it's always great to pick your brain a little bit about a good fight. You know what I mean? And and we have one coming up, but I want to draw a parallel to the Super Bowl, which as you know, is in a couple of weeks. Now, a guy like Bill Belichick, and I forget, the Rams guy mcshea or whatever the hell. His name is these guys are going to pour hours. They got a lot to watch. You know what I mean because it's fifty two players eleven or on the field at one time. But for a guy like a son saw who you already fight how much is too much, and how much film will you watch on this cat or have you watched in preparation for this fight? We'll it's great. When you you know, I love rematch is because you know, you already have a little bit familiarity. But you know, the first fight you always guesstimate what's going to happen. And then when they actually fi, you know, actually, you know, is the dance that's going to happen. So you definitely get better. You know, better five and more realistic thing what's going to go down. So it really helps out and you know, the rematch, but when you have two guys like this, and I sound with more on it just takes one split second the wrong move of of turning the wrong way that could be lights out for you want. So you know, that both have a lot of power in their hands. And they both are on a, you know, amazing, you know, win to loss ratio and the last I don't know how many years to puts them to where they're at, you know, so they're both very dangerous and sometimes that a glass window in a split second. You know, all the game that you possibly could go. Okay. And again, I wanna keep drawing parallels to other sports how in your game plan. Whether it be combinations of striking or sequence, you know that he's been working on jujitsu. Let's just call those individual plays like how many plays. Are you? See what I'm saying? How how many situations have you guys prepared for to attack how fail sunset like is that how the game plan works? We you say listen, this is what we're gonna do. Or is it just making them aware of what can happen and then just late in the fight on fold? I've been more or less for I think six fifteen sixteen fights around that. So you know, we've he's fought. I think when he came that's seven four and one and the sun's out, you know, down and since then he's like fifteen fourteen to one of these stunts outside when we thought he would have been fifteen to know. But he, you know, you've he's fought so many different styles, and so many different types of fighters whether tall or short or stockier wrestlers voi- Thai boxer. So, you know, you already have a massive base and codes of when we had all those other plans of I've other fighters and with our guys it's always about, you know, don't just you know, all throughout a certain code. It's about you know, why we throwing this code. You know, why we do, you know, why are we doing this? 'cause you know, this fighter has laid at a certain scientists counter fire like Austin. So you know to where you have to come up. With several little different. So, you know, we'd go with moral in a long time. And you know, so he knows. Okay. Awesome. Sour fight the counter fighter. You know? That has you know, it's pretty much good everywhere. So, you know, that's the base of guys that we flow before, you know, that's the of like, you know, a guy like, Frankie who's, you know, his fight. So, you know, civil runoff of of past fights, and what the gay plans have been forced. So we have already have a great base thirty have, you know, wide array of of companies that we have with codes ready attached. And then we'll just implement some more offer this one tweak some more stuff, you know, at a little these tracks stuff, they will use that Houston the last one that we throw work, but did, and you know, that's basically what are you more excited that it's five rounds? You get an extra ten minutes for your guy to operate. Is that good news to you? When you hear it or or deeper? For you know, three unless it's four title, obviously. I think both these guys are, you know, they're they're both chew professionals both to go five or three, but I know Borland's gone five before we prepared more for five rounds. Full champion. So he's definitely prepared for five rounds before. So it's great that you know, we've we've been here before with the five zero five we've I camps. So it's not like he wanted to something do for him. You know, like he's been there, you know, before for five hundred camping and how will train it? You know, how you know? Sometimes go six rows that sometimes, you know, take a rest if he's not hurt which this camp Spink radio has hurt at all. So, you know, we, you know, we didn't have to take Julie breaks. Oh. Speaking of that word break. I wanted to ask you about Morlin mariah's or or maybe all your guys or whatever. But do you like, you know, you talk about these codes, and for those that don't know coach Henri coach Mark Henry uses different terminology, when you know, rather than the one to he'll yell different plays or names for some of these combos. And I wanted to ask you coach does is every fighter kind of the same like in the third round. If you know, let's say it's been a great fight each guys one around each maybe Marlin won the second. We're going into the fourth and fifth. Can they still remember all that? Or at some point. Like are they now fighting on instinct, like when does all that stop, you know, where you're relaying the information? And now, they're just, you know, it's all on instinct in survival all a lot a lot of it is just like a lot of it is is just like, you know, different codes for keep your hands up could be tree tree. Tree me your heads. A lot of them with two is what the other guys doing so say, I dunno see shares right hand or say chairs and uppercut. You know, I could yell to him. He's looking share. He's looking share, you know, without without looking for the uppercut, or you know, what I'm saying. Or he's looking for shot. You know, like, you know, you know, a flower could be shot, you know, look out for to watch the flower watch the flowers, so I communicate with him without the other guy. No one I'm saying, you know, or one team run, you know, or one he, you know, when he flour fifty four could be in do, you know? So when he shoots, you know, do you know what I'm saying? So I talked to him without the other guy known. You know, what we're saying which helps out a lot too. And a like I said a lot of it too. Is, you know, making sure the faints are going making sure that you know, coats for angles have coats counters, you know, and and also too when he's flowing, and he doesn't eat anything. Let flow do his own thing. You know? But the reason I ask is because oftentimes even a winning fighter Rogan or Anik or someone will say, hey man in the third round. You know, this happened in the fourth round this have in the fight or go, man. I don't even remember that. I was just an auto pilot. And I guess that's why I was curious as to win at some point. You're just staring into someone's eyes. And those guys just giving you guy or gal is giving you the fog you look back, you know, and like. How are you? So sure that they are in understanding what you're saying being, you know, being that they've been knocked on the head a couple times. Because we'll sit you know. We'll see what you know from call it stuff. And they're doing it. You know, I'll keep calling it Europe saying, but by all something they're not they're not really feeling it. I'll say it again. And if they're not gonna do it that'll swishes something else too, comfortable with it. You know, even the Lakers forty freaky. All the what? All the what? That's fine. Because I'm watching I or I do would Frankie Ford's the beat after he got after got ahead kicked. But the third row here. We look look look at me. The is you know, what I'm saying? It was funny 'cause our just wanted. The that what you're saying into wedges? He'll look at me. And he won't get. We'll, you know, relax. Like. Listening or whatever. But you know. So I it's funny. We we bet it's great that the fact that like a lot, you know, we try not to have a big, you know, a lot of fighters. So, you know, Ricardo night at Nick could we could, you know, maintain, you know, knowing our guys got give attention to the ball. You know? So I have you know, we have an amazing feel for our guys. Because like I see almost every round they Spar, you know, like, oh, I'll be there late like hope make sure, you know, won't goes in and a time in the cage most of the time that so I've caught I'm calling stuff for like, you know, what is it a hundred rounds say they did it a camper sixty rounds. They did the camp. Like, I've I've called Paul. Right. So it's not, you know. So it's not just fight. You know, we've had practice the sparring a lot of practice. Right. You know, when we come up with a game plan, and we try that maybe some stuff don't work, and then we tweak it, and you melt, so we've already it's been tested in the sparring. It's already been you know, the code bases. Already tested. You know, the plan and whatnot has been through trial. Now don't want the I think you have to be careful of which I learned as a coach is you come up with these game plans and say you have like eight to ten we can't. And this stuff is working, you know, for a three weeks. But then there's say they have like three or four different sparring partners. Now, they're catching onto it. And now, you can't call it as much you have to make sure that you're still called it. You're the end of camp because that's not who they're fighting followed up saying to where it right? They're they're they're training their training partner will catch on. But you have to remember you start means or an opponent. You know? And then you stop using some of this stuff using the beginning camp, you know? So if you wanna switch up the spore point of, but you always want to make sure that you stay on your opponent at not your sporran porter. If that makes any sense one upset. It does. And we'd love watching your corn or work. And that's why your answers are very interesting here. And we're talking to court coach Mark Henry who will be in the corner of Marlin Martinez on February second. Man, we have sites. Head off fight show on their card. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You got a lot of killers. Man. You got the call. You mentioned the beat as well. One of our favorite fighters. Frankie Edgar that list goes on and on. But let me turn it over to Dan, Tom here. I fight analysts, Dan, whatever coach Mark Henry. Hey, coach as a Hawaiian. I just gotta say, I know you work with a multicultural stable, but not not many Hawaiians in there. So be careful if you use trees a code word because you're just going to get the guy thrown hoax all day, so with the pigeon, sling it. Yeah. I was gonna say. There we go there. There we go. Hey, I gotta ask you coach Ivan asking this before, but it was really apropos to the matchup, obviously already laid out beautifully son's house. Good counter fighter. I'm a little bit biased. Because I may be picked played your guy the first time. But I did edge it for Moore is I think what we can all agree on though is it's a close fight. So I guess what I wanna ask you coach in general, especially because of this fight. What do you think about open scoring especially as a coach has been in a lot of five rounders, you've been in those tactical trenches at the highest level, who what's your opinion or argument for it? If you have one. What's open scoring like, let's just say like the fights going on. And they announced the judges scorecards. So the audience at home in the arena, as you you you as the corner would know what the judges scored it in real time. So you could be tacked. So some people would argue well if guys a head you're gonna get more cokes coasting like they haven't boxing, whereas the counter-argument is well the other corner. Well, at least not to push it. And we will get that theater to play out in the in the ring so to speak, right. So after round one the the score would be posted in the arena, and it would say like ten nine mariah's or ten nine cents. So now, you know where you stand especially in a tight fight like what what could play out. That's very interesting. I think that would definitely be more action. I know that I mean, you know, the way things should be, you know, if you've done this look at you, you kind of have a grasp I been through seventy woods. I thought that we won with Frankie or even the, you know, the moral and office our authority had been on the opposite side too. But you know, I always if you've been through that you always say as a coach, you know, you could be like say he would two to nothing. But you thought the first one was close oh always say it's one one I'll say toward won't go to two third. So I always never on the positive side of always on the, you know, the glasses half-full just because you know, we were ripped off a little bit. So our everybody has, but but I think that would definitely make more excitement. I know I think we would definitely have to get you know, used to it. You know, just like in football rules how they had to get used to certain. Rules. I think you know, you definitely have to learn, you know, fight situations if you're up on your down. That's why for the first round and so forth. It a three round fight. Because you know, if you didn't win that first round, you have to go a little harder the second that you have to be more aggressive, and that's sometimes you get caught would your you know, you keep coming in. And you can't take your time at Saint and ankles, and you have to be a little more aggressive. So I think it would definitely bake for for more four knockouts. It definitely wore for being more action packed. So I guess it has its pros and cons. But it would definitely make things more exciting. Gotcha. And then just another question kind of in relation to Marlin. It's a two part. It's it's in relation to tomorrow. And and and it's and Barboza, of course at some bar Boza. They're linked through a childhood coach they had for from white tie. And that coach went to American top team. And hence America. It's Barbosa has been training down there as of late. But I guess the question for you Mark is did did Marlin consider making the same move. And in the other side of that coin, I is Edson still a part of the family there because y'all seem to have just a nice respected and jailed together. The lows be part of the family like we we don't we're not friendly with Edson we're friendly with Edson fruita at Bella. You know, so they'll they'll always be fairly not just it's it's a whole package deal. And you know, we're happy for us. And we were all cheering for him. You know, you know, like like, I said well came here. Seven four word, you know. It's awesome, south fight. When when his way be fifteen now, you know, so and not only that like Morlin is our team like, you know, he has such a crepe bond with Frankie like they are joined at the hip, and I think training wise more than he would be wolf, you know, he was with Frankie when they train. So I know that they're really close. He's like one of my best friends. So I've ever, you know, he always said he wanted to be here. So you know, that's four nine though. But, but as far as you know, we definitely wish him, you know, total best is always a churn for me came. I'm here. I think like rank thirty five we got him up to third rank and wanted to get anyone. But you know, it just didn't work out that way. That that's awesome. And I suspected here that kind of answer. Again, you guys keep a great tight team their last one for me coach, you know, I'm hoping you have no answer for this. Because I it'll make me sick where you find the time between Pinos pizza and all you're doing for all these fighters who hold you in high regard. But but back to the tape study just just to revisit that for one second. Do you ever do anything in advance or keep your eyes out on certain guys outside of the matchup meaning slash, for example, a cat like Alexander Volkov ski who could be on prospects rate are Alexa, beaten Maga sheriff off or could be on the radar of a guy like Frankie. Edgar who many subscribed to. That's the guy max Holloway has to fight before forty five a guy like a rising guy like Volkogonov does that guy even hits your radar. Do you not not worry about guys until they're matched up with your guys? So three of his fights already. I watched eight votes. Not vulgar nasty. What are their Frankie speedy put, you know, respect them a lot. I saw I know for his last four fights. So we saw last four weights absolute good stuff on him. And you know, there's there's also stuff to you know, what if it while? And you have you know, like all of our guys, you know, so proud of our team and our guys are all right? Everyone of ring they came here not ranked now they're all right. And you know, in a proud of them when you you know, when you're doing that, especially the lower classes like we had Eddie, Eddie and Edson like, you know, your costs you watch Chris wait, you know, you're you're watching other poets like they're like watching I beat. I'm watching you go to say, and Frankie was you know, MAC or you know, like or would your would your getting ready for Stevens? Like you've seen Sobe guys that Frankie or Frankie is gonna probably fight. You know what I'm saying? So we like good guys in the low away classes like Marlin, or you know, you. Wind up. Doing your homework before you need to do your homework. You know, just because your your guys are fighting. You know, have fought those guys before or you know, people that he's wanted to fight me that your guy your other guys gonna fight a couple of fights or say at our say Edie Edie at fought Melendez. And that's the forgivable went does Eddie four Pettus pensive for credits. So, you know, it's helped us out a lot or. 'cause a beat. I think his last two or three fights. I think. I think Peres Frankie pres- fort whatever's opponents Barlett full one of his opponents so spree for the beats fight we already had, you know, a good handle on his guys cuts to two guys are already people. So you know, definitely helps them. Coach of you already been told that Edgar is next for Holloway. Have you heard anything? That's one booking. We are. Intimidating. But we haven't heard it. That's that was that would that would headlines shore. I wish I did. But I. But I do. All right and the last one from hopefully hook at them. The last one from me is. In other sports, you often hear coach worked the refs. You know? What that means? Yeah. You know, what it's it's it's it's I coached football too. It's not for for seventy years. You could definitely work the rack, and I've tried to. What's that? I was in who's fight was Ballance by the WS F. And I said the guy's got kids opening like, it wasn't even anything. Big the ref toll. If I say something else up getting kicked out of the corner. And I was like what the now. So yeah, it was crazy. So you definitely can't work them. But you know, you I will def I definitely try my best. You know, you know, as you know that they're not doing anything rap. He's not doing anything. It's not doing anything. If the guy, you know agreement, you know, he's not he's not getting you know, he's not trying to gain positions and trying to gain. So you know, definitely tr definitely try to do it. But it's a lot harder than it is it's football, you know, or bad works or the judges. Can you say now that one didn't land that one didn't land? Can you say something like that? Like, you're talking to your fighter. But also, maybe relaying that info to the judges. Why? No, I know Jackson's day will always Greg will always do the. Good job is to kind of good, you know, like her job as the United States. So I that we still out for it were I've made I've ever Frankie was fighting. I have one of our corner bid, you know, say good job. Good job. So, you know, you try everything, you know. And right. Yeah. That's that's why to like glad that we do stay code base. Because it's like, you know, when you guys heads down. You don't want to say, you know, your hands down. You're getting hit with the overhead. You know, what I'm saying watch, the, you know that you're not doing something, you know, that you're not hurting your later to you the that thing that the judges don't know, you're you're you're telling your fighter you can't hit for reason. Gotcha. Well, there's always fascinating stuff. We always love talking to you. You're one of the best in the business. And we're very gracious of your time. I hope you hope you guys have a safe camp for whatever's left of it. And of course, safe travels to Brazil, you headed to four delays of Brazil for you on ESPN, plus two I gotta make a statement. I gotta make a statement how Brazil would Super Bowls going with a bit. How could they are going to be the air for the Super Bowl herbs? So bump Brown, please. You are going to stop it out of the air. The air for the Super Bowl kid be usually the flights. The flights out of Brazilian late at night, don't they? Yeah. Mine leaves at eight I think. So I don't know I'll be coming in your clock at night. I think Frankie, and I so smack in the middle of the thing, I know it 'cause every year was it baking 'cause I not Super Bowl before. But it's been Vegas where leave on the first flight so bad bubbly fan of either team. Oh, it's a great game. I love football. I love football. It's going to be an awesome game of a of a Bill fan huge Bill with patriot. Or so, you know, I love the ranch. All right. Well, hopefully, there's some wifi on the plane. But again, thanks for the time. We're up against the clock. But we appreciate your time as always, sir. Yep. Take it. Easy guys. Got bless. 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That is right. Okay. Yeah. The second book. Wasn't that the one where they actually released a poster where they had them as the main event. And then you know, how they do the combing after that. And then the next guys, but I think like they had to where it was just like the shadow of person. He didn't know who it was because they hadn't. Off the picture. Yeah. The poster at home. That'd be pretty interesting. I don't think versus some guy. I just remember the way in being the closest is ever gotten to Calvin Klein commercial is that right, then probably win best pair jeans, and they're weighing in with jeans on the every heavyweight did it because there's a bunch of heavyweights. Let's just weigh in with our kind of ventilator stylish jeans on we have to have a faux hawk for this think it'll be fun. Can do. When's that data game? February what maybe we twenty second. February twenty second. All right. Definitely tune into that one been folks, let's find out a little bit more about you than we'll ask you some of the relevant stuff going on. We're kind of goofing off with you here. What kind of car? Do you drive? I don't even know. Toyota highlander. Toyota high amounts in like, Montana ish. Out here. Otherwise, you're just you're dead meat. What's the coldest? You've ever been in Montana, minus what? Oh, we definitely been down. Like, you know, minus ten stuff like that. I it doesn't really matter at that point though. It's like once you get kinda two zero and below. It's just cold. Like, it's not like you're like, oh, man. Minus tennis so much worse than minus five. It's that's all kind of weather where you're you can feel your nose hairs freezing within a couple of steps outside your door. So at that point, just cold. Okay. Can I get to know him as well? Sure. Ben you play hockey and I enjoy sports goal today. Yeah. I like when he puts those clips, but the one thing I've noticed, and I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything. But here we go. How come how come the teams? It's always like the blue team versus the black team. There's not very there's not very many, creative jerseys or do you guys just have colors or are there? Nobody's the cobras or anything like that. Will they're all sponsored by local businesses. And there are some interesting colors. I play on one league where we have Tigers. He's and man, let me tell you. It's it's not the greatest, but you're never endanger of not knowing where your teammates are out on the ice when you got tied jerseys on you really can spot each other out there. So that's nice. But yeah, mainly I put the clips from one team that I'm on. That is pretty good. We're the black the black and silver team. But yeah, it's all local business, and it really tell hula Montana that one of the league's I'm in like half the teams are micro-brewery teams. Because that is one thing we have an abundance of in Missoula Montana is a bunch of breweries. Played hockey since I was a kid. But then I got asked a serious hockey related question. Here d to Mighty Ducks to best Mighty Ducks movie or greatest money ducks movie. Which okay, I remember D one which is a DUI seen, you know, the one which is great. Sorry. Go ahead. I don't I don't have any idea. What happens in d-2? Oh, it's a nice Lynn versus America. They have what's his name Keenan kale? They recruit him who is the knuckle puck. He's got the epoch slapshot. So they have to put him on the team. And it was a very very classic Mighty Ducks. I was throwing it out. There wasn't sure where the muddy ducks felon. Ben folks lexicon. Yeah. I mean for me best hockey movie gotta be slapshot Paul Newman doing. Oh, yeah. As classic good. Yeah. We only see good clips of you. Really? No. I mean, I'm pretty sure you're a good player. But can you maybe pick somebody in the mixed martial arts? And just say I would be that guy of hockey. In other words, the Joseph benefit is of my league. Or like who who are you in that leak? Punk. Oh, really? One of the worst. Well in this league. I mean, if we want to get technical about it, and you guys are going to be like, hey. Or league leading scorer in the novice league. Yes, fine. Yes. I am the lead league leading score but fifth thing that is important for all of us. Remember is that we're all terrible. So see all bunch of Siham punks out here. Running in other. I was gonna go with more of like a Brian barberie. And Ben folks seems the kind of guy let her daughter's pain his toenails, but they get out there. And do the damn thing. Okay. All right. Brian barberie? That's that's me. Every do you own a snowmobile? No, no. And I have strong those expensive snowmobiles. Yeah. It looks like Bon. Well, you know, what I always encounter them because I like to cross country ski and a lot of places where was cross country ski trails are also snowmobile trails, and it always kind of noise me because it's like the snow mobile. People seem to me like the kind of people were like, oh, let's go out in this like, really, quiet lovely pristine environment and just ruin it. Just ruined it with like a bunch of loud noises, like just rolling all over the place. And they're also not like, I always thought snowmobiles like you could just go anywhere with them. You're just like I'll like JAMES BOND stuff out on the snow. But no, they really have to stay on like pretty tight trails that they get out into the snow. They get stuck pretty easily and to me that just feels like what's the point? Okay. In all your years. Did you Danny Downes ever get heated like when you know, the stuff that we don't see like what the fuck, you know, why did you say that or you're getting personal bro or anything? We did. We did once and I I pick. Him up. And I choke slammed him choke slammed him through a table at a biggest casino once and that the fear in his eyes was really something to behold and easy. What happened? No, actually, I hung out one of the biggest casino. And I realized like mandate was a feather weight in his fighting. But he's kind of a big, dude. Like, he you see them in person. And you're kinda like, oh, well, no, I mean, I don't care if you were fighting that one hundred and forty five pounds. I don't really wanna mess with you. I can see why you beat the Mungul in Wolfe realize, hey, down to put a hurting on you. If you wanted to. His potato story true. What's the 'tatoes story? He told a story one time where he at a win. He thought it'd be funny. He put a potato in his briefs. And then when he got up on stage, he took it out, and he threw it in the crowd. And he said he when he tossed it actually hit his mom in the head. He was making that up or if you actually did it. He was a character. Yeah. How this story the basic story. Hey, sit it on the air said it on our show like literally ten about ten years ago, or I know knows here at Mandalay bay. So it's about eight years ago. Wow. That's that's a great. I'm going to have to ask about that. Same thing happened to me in Brazil, I had to wear those Kenny briefs or whatever. And I noticed it wasn't getting a lot of attention. Right. So I went back to the store, and I complained I go just give me some trunks. And the guy goes what's wrong? I'm not getting much attention. I'm just not packing heat. You know, and he goes, here's a potato put this in your trunk and watch how they are drawn to you right in the front. I goes, wait. Wait. So anyway, all right last one been who is the last fighter. I don't know if you can name them or not or in your history. Maybe someone that's retired or someone that was just not a fan and let you know it. Oh, man. I have to pick just one. The last one to stand out was probably Michael biffing. But even then I felt like he he was angry about something where he kinda misunderstood the point. And then kinda gave me a weird joy when I saw, you know in his role as commentator like on the Fox Sports one stuff where the same thing happened to him will happen from time to time people kinda don't always understand what you're saying. Or or think they understand and don't and some fighter got mad at him along the same lines. It was like now. Now, you see how it happens that the person isn't even really mad at you think they have. Yeah. Well, I gotta tell you a big fan of your sarcasm snacking is whatever you wanna call it. But you really do make your points. And I think your fair so keep doing what you're doing. But let's get to some of the hot topics and for one we want include you in our daily debate. So let's get that out of the way we ready to go that do that. We're going to do the debate, including Ben folks, the number one ranked media member on gorgeous George's media rankings is passed the Semper. Here's the question guys following hashtag Brooklyn T J dillashaw is hoping for an immediate rematch with Henry Suharto for the flight, we title should he get it here. You're three choices guys. Yes. Run it back. Yes. But for the one hundred thirty five belt or no rematch needed you go I in. I'll say, yes. Run it back 'cause I'm assuming that first option will be one twenty five since the other one is specifying one thirty five and I'm a fan of. Twenty five I feel like it keeps the relevance there. Although it might not be the most popular thing to say because it might come off the I'm taking away credit from Henry pseudo, which I'm not. But I am one of those people that wasn't the most identified with the stoppage. I'm not saying it was a robbery it would have gone. The other way just wanted to see a little more finality. And I know I'm not alone there. So if the proper people are on the same boat, I say run it back run it back at one five and keeps them relevant in that division. All right. He goes. And my biggest issue with this is I want to see them right back. But what if TJ wins? Okay. Are we going to do third one somewhere? What's going to happen there? And I just keep thinking from the UFC side. They're going to say we can't possibly have them do at one twenty five because we can't have our one thirty five champ lose two fights in a row and then promote him in another fight at one thirty five. And this is the greatest one thirty five people were going to go didn't he just lose two times? Like, I just don't see them doing it. So my vote is gonna be no rematch needed. Why even though I don't feel that way? All right. I hear exactly what you guys are saying except not that it's not fun to watch those guys fight or anybody that's involved in these rematches. But there are other people that consider a son sow and Marlin Ryan are going to be fighting soon. The winner wants next Davidson Figueredo and juicy for me go same thing, they want the winner of Joseph Benedetti's versus Henry pseudo. And I haven't even gotten to Joseph Benhamouda's he wants. And so I mean if. It was like football like him. Look I can't get to on Sunday. We'll play next Sunday. No problem. You know? But it's not like that. Sometimes he's thinking three months, four months, six months. Eight months. Sometimes that's even how long we have to wait before we know the announcement. I'm still wondering who max Holloway's fighting next. But I would say I guess if I'm if I need to pick one of the three. Yeah. I would say no rematch needed. But if I had to pick one of the to the rematch. Yes for the thirty five pound belt because I think so who don't our in the right for him to make history. How about you been folks? Well for me. I mean, if they're gonna rematch I think it has to be at one thirty five. But I also think you need to clear up what the future is at flyweight because if you keep just keeping it vague and saying we're not sure what we're gonna do at flyweight. And then you do a rematch for the flyweight title. It was already a stretch to do that in the first place because you wouldn't commit to actually keeping the division. Made it feel like you were just waiting to see TJ dillashaw was gonna win. And then you could kill the flyweight division off. I think you need some clarity there. And I I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the media rematch is especially when the fight ends and thirty seconds. And you you can make a case that the stoppage was a little premature. But you're getting your head knocked around. You can't be too surprised on the referee steps in there. So if there is going to be a rematch, I'm gonna has to be at one thirty five, but if there's not going to be a rematch, and we just keep the flyweight division going and dillashaw goes back bantamweight, I wouldn't be opposed to that. Either. All right there you have it. That's our daily debate brought to you by the radio team. And Ben folks, here's how the results came out. Forty-nine percent said yes. But for the one hundred thirty five pound belt, and then the other two were kinda split twenty eight percents. No rematch needed twenty percents at yes. Running back. So thanks, the junky nation our readers of the site and listen to the show for participating, Ben. I also want to say that Android reading your article about your experience on ESPN. Plus, and boy, they got some work to do it. You're right. It did remind us of the early fight pass days. Hell I think five pass may have had it a little bit more. They may have had their act together a little bit more. You were in there. Looking for a great fights couldn't find them? And then when you did find them it was because they weren't really tagged correctly. And you know, the the bars high man, this is ESPN that we're talking about. But what do what do you think of not only that? But just your viewing experience from this pass out. Tonight. Well, you know, I was pleasantly surprised with the live doing experience that especially just because and I know this wasn't the case for everybody as I heard later on. But for me the process of logging in and then watching the stream uninterrupted was flawless, and that is not off the case with my internet connection in Montana. So I was pleased with that. I also if you tell me, you know, we're gonna move over to having most of our guns on a streaming service and no longer most of them available on cable TV, but it's going to be quicker and not as much filler in between the fights. Then I see that as a good trait. I have no problem paying a little more for it. If you're gonna respect my time, a little more and just give me the stuff that I came to see. So I like that live Ewing experience going through and trying to find stuff on the streaming services a little bit different. And maybe some of it is because fight pass has been a work in progress and has really gotten better over the years and has figured out a lot of the things that look. What fight fans like what kind of experience they're looking for especially when they're going through the library and watching old fights or even just trying to catch up on last weekend's, right? And so they have a lot of that stuff already in there where they know like how you're gonna sort through a fight card and watch it after the stuff happens and for ESPN, plus is just kind of a lot of stuff thrown in there. And they don't really have the sorting down yet. Also in talking to some of the people from ESPN and ask them is. They're gonna come a time where you have the entire UFC fight library and the answer that I've heard so far is no that they think that they will have a whole lot of fights on there. But they don't think there will ever be a time when every single UFC fight in the history of the company is viewable on ESPN, plus. Ben what were your thoughts on? We're trying to see what the new wrinkles where we're going to be right away. One thing that we noticed was Trevor Wittman, and I thought he did a good job. And if you were to kind of collectively look at all the head coaches in mixed martial arts is there anybody else that you would have preferred to see in that role. How did you think Trevor did? Did a great job. And one of the things that are thought, you know, I would not have thought of him if try in trying to come up with somebody in that role. But I'm really glad that somebody thought of him because he has a really good sense of dislike holiday of the fight game. And without getting his own ego involved is really good at figuring out. Like, what does hear from you rather than just like, you know, what is your default mode and coaching fighters? And so I think that makes them a good guy to analyze what are they saying to him during the during the breaks between round the corner. What should they be saying? You know, the one thing I'm interested to see is he had a lot of good comments to make their. But a lot of them were critical. And I I mean, probably rightly so, but people are going to let you know about that at some point like people are gonna tell you. They felt that you were over critical, and it's a small world. And I don't think there's a whole lot of coaches that want to draw the ire. Of all the other the may trainers that way. So I'll be interested to see if they keep doing it. If it's always Trevor Wittman, and if he temper some of his criticism when he starts here in back from other people who don't like here themselves, criticized. You know, you've been doing this for a really long time. And we talk about how big ESPN has been for the fighters. But in a way, it's kind of big for us as well. Because doing this along. I'm sure you guys like us. We've all been shit on at some point. And I think you get if you Pat in the Backstrom people going eight years PIN looks like what you've been doing is now starting to pick up. It's more credible for you. Ben. What's it like amongst all your friend in Montana? I mean, I can't tell that anybody really notices that UFC has moved over to ESPN if they if they're not inside the bubble. It doesn't seem like they're aware of that. And I think the USC has grown big enough at this point that it's not we're not we're no longer in the stage where we're trying to get people to give 'em a chance, but people have seen it people have given it a chance either into it or they're not the people who like it have founded already. I don't think we're I think we kind of perpetuate that myth at times that like if people more people could only hear about this, then, you know, the the interest would really blow up in the sport. And I think profiling people elbowing each other in face in inside a cage as always going to be kind of a niche thing. But I don't know if we're at the point still where the platform is going to make that bigger difference. I think you know, maybe slowly you see it show up on sportscenter more ESPN kinda like the default channel of every sports bar in America. I think that can make a little bit of chains. Just in like. Getting people to accept it into the regular fabric of the sports world. But I don't know that it makes a huge shame at this point. It's already been on FOX network TV. I think people have kind of made up their minds up about where they stand on 'em AM USC. Yes, PM did do a good job though. During the fight week of pushing it watching random college basketball games. I'm not I'm not talking about like number one Duke versus number two Virginia. I'm talking about just games like in south west, Texas or something, and they would take the time to do live reads multiple ones. They actually the commentators actually talked about pseudo and dillashaw you could tell they had notes. It wasn't like expert breakdowns or nothing like that. But I was pleased to see that. And then going back to I guess what goes something about nothing. Nothing wrong with FOX FOX's Jit. But fox's. It's not just sports all television. I feel ESPN like being on ESPN. Also gave it a little bit more validations a little bit. I mean, like I walk though, that's still like no rules fight fixing their thinking the absolute worst. And I think this is something different. Yeah. I think there's something to that. And I also, you know, I noticed that kind of stuff to filters in in ways don't expect like I'm running on the treadmill on the over on the treadmill Jim and looking up on seeing like some college basketball game. And you just kind of flash across the bottom of the screen on the ticker. And it's just like, you know, kind of seamlessly woven in there along with all the other major sports stuff going on going. Okay. That that does I think long term having a set. I also though, I think we've got to keep in mind that we're at the very beginning of the deal right now where everybody is great friends and everybody is expecting great things to happen. And it was the same thing when the US you made a deal with FOX if we're told how this is going to change the entire sports, and the the landscape is going completely turned upside down, and it's going to be a huge major breakthrough. And then by the end of the deal, you know, doing worse ratings than you were doing on for spike TV prelims before that. So people that can change as the viewership goes up and down. I think right now there's a lot of. Optimism and some good reason for optimism, but we got to see how that plays out. Dan, what do you in for Ben, man? Just kinda touch up on something. You guys kinda already talked about earlier. But it was something. I was listening to by the way Komeda vent podcast, folks. I really don't listen to much enemy podcast days. And you guys are one of the few podcast. I listen to and maybe the first patriarch action subscribe to because I'm realizing that, you know, watching just combat sports and only combat sports isn't healthy. So I'm going to have to check out that deadwood with you guys. I think so there's a little plug. But but but, but then I heard you guys talking about and you kind of mentioned at the end of when your answers there were the ESPN. Plus, and I agree I had a similar experience more along your lines. So I didn't get a lot of the complaints. But I didn't realize because it didn't come across and it will especially with my beat. But you mentioned something that caught my attention Ben, which was the the going back function is looks like it's pretty difficult to do. And even fight pass, which you know that when he got the spoiler. Is that when he got the spoiler maybe spoiler while he went in to watch a fight. And then all of a sudden, boom the spoiler. I don't know. Maybe I'm his read it, but I was laughing my ass off. Yeah. But it's just I know for me even with light pass. It's it's so much easier. But even with fight passes. It's a bit of a pain. 'cause you gotta go to watch. This guy's fight. But his most relevant fight is listed only under his opponent's name for whatever reason and mandate eats time in my day. But that's neither here nor there. But. Do you? Do you weigh too heavily on that? Or does that really affect you? As view, or perhaps, even your your beat beat of work. Does it affect you there? I think. Well, I think that's going to affect people is that when their stuff, you know, like a streaming service kind of fights. And especially for a lot of fans that I hear from there like, you know, I don't watch this stuff live a lot of times either because it's on a Saturday night. And I got other stuff to do or because I know there's going to be a lot of filler in there. And like one of the things they really liked the ability, you know, through DVR or fight pass to kind of go through and in a really efficient fashion. Just get to the fights that they wanted to see that they were really curious about and right at least right now. Like as far as navigating that player, it's nowhere near as good as fight passes. And the ability to kind of jumped one fight the fight past thing. It got to the point like by the end where like there will. There's all these little icons along the bottom that can tell you like, here's where fighter ones walkout is. Here's we're fighter to walk. I just want to get straight to the fight. Here's where there's a flurry of actions. You can get straighten that if you want to like, they really. We had all that stuff down ESPN. Plus doesn't really have that yet. And especially like, if you see, you know, a crazy finish and white path kind of allowed you to jump back fifteen seconds or whatever. And and. Yeah. In little really manageable predictable increments. Gotta go back and see what had just happened and yesterday, and plus doesn't really have that stuff. It'll be interesting to see if they are capable of Justice that on the fly the way fight pass was because it is kind of different viewing experience that I think fight fans expected this point. How even settle if they can get it as good as a bell Tor dot com's though website where at least here, we'll just pull it somewhat of quantum logical. Order someone's fights. I'll be happy at that at this rate. But yeah, I definitely hear your on there. And you kind of answered my second question, which is you talked about especially on your podcast about pulling the plug. Right. And I think we're seeing a lot of people have that conversation, especially within the MA circle. But it sounds like the way you kind of things it really not not really affecting you too much. Well, you know, I already did change my cable package. It was nice in a way. 'cause I just feel like, hey, I don't eat Foxworth one anymore. I wasn't watching literally us single thing on Foxworth one other than USC. So I don't need that in the more. And it just seems like the landscape in generalists changing where is a little bit easier to kind of go through and be like, I don't need access to five hundred TV channels anymore. Like, I know what I want. I want HBO. Netflix Hulu, and you know, this one sport that I obsessively follow. And so that is a little easier. I think to and it's also I think kind of the way were trending just in general. But it does it requires everybody to be making more kinda conscious choices like nobody's really discovering new stuff that way. There's no channel surfing. We're all thinking about these things in terms of like these segmented streaming services because you know, if you're asking you for five bucks here. Ten bucks here. Everybody have to go through that process. A little more deliberately than they do if it's just will I got two hundred fifty channels and sometimes it's going to be late at night. And I'm just going to like see what's on there. And I might discover something new that I'm into and streaming doesn't really give you that option. But it does give you the option of really only paying for what you want. Yes, funny. I was just gonna say real quick that I went and looked at my channel history the other day, and I noticed that it was just Fox Sports one for when the fights were on or easy listening channel for when I have to leave something on for my dog when I leave the house, and I'm not really. Yeah. Yeah. It's a class one nine four eight. I got to tell you this. You should do some stand up. Now, I'm not gonna lie to you and say, hey, you'd be a headliner. But but I'd really like to see like ten to twenty minutes in front of an intimate crowd. 'cause this fucking article had me dying. It's called spent all morning watching ESPN. Plus, so you don't have to what did I learn and. Just you know, I wish I could write like this just as ability to put the words down. But it's so true. Now, he's got Netflix, Hulu HP now, and it was on prime and some weird British thing. What's the British thing? I don't know it seems to be only shows about like people in the country country estates making Witter witty repartee every show is like says, and it looks like I oughta have access to every recorded moment in human history. So true men like we we have so much at our disposal. Nobody's got time for it. You know what? I mean. Like goes, we really need to figure out what we need and don't need because it's getting ridiculous. There's just there's some stuff that on on demand that I've gotten to that I've saved up ten episodes their series that I stopped watching in the middle of it that people would people would tell me you crazy like I haven't finished Ozark season two and that's a good series. I just I get so distracted by all the bullshit that comes up, but. Anyway. You know, he goes in there. And he's looking for he finds one round wars. And he's got disappointment that it's not available till next Tuesday. That was hilarious. Then he went to go look at then he skipped through and. Politely fight. And that's why I was wondering if fighters read this shit and go this motherfucker like why did he pick me? What? I was laughing at that. And then the the other stuff was. You know, watching bub. Bobby knuckles fight he hits a button poem. He's at the post fight celebration. So that that was the spoiler that was giving away. You know what I mean? So just peons I guess having pluses is gonna a some struggles. But I'm sure they'll figure it out. But I'm telling you, man, I was laughing my ass off when I was reading this thing goes, what would you have them before we wrap up it for Ben? But it's kind of for everyone, and I'll give you guys maybe my take I and see where you guys stand on this. But everything with ESPN, I just want. I don't wanna be wanna give them a clean slate and just really be positive and what I couldn't really figure out what Stephen Smith. His his takes in the past touched on him to his takes on the past. I mean, you watch them really doesn't tell like somebody. That knows that they should be commenting on the sport. Yeah. But there's ways it the guys around you can set you up to kind of make you sound. Okay. And it didn't seem like he wanted any piece of that. He was he was there. And oftentimes he kind of told told the audience like, I don't even know what I'm doing here. You guys are the experts and all it made me wanna say was well, the what are you doing here? Like, it just didn't make any sense to me. Ben, can you? He's there to remind you that it's a different product. Then it was on Fox Sports one. Because otherwise if you take him away, and you look at everybody else that they had like kind of talking heads. You know, you got shot Evans their Karyn. Bryant was there, and you call me as their genetic there. It looks exactly like the fuck sports one product, Stephen a Smith was there. I think solely to show you here's somebody who you associate with the ESPN brand to remind you that this is a different thing. Now that it's not just the exact same thing with the Fox Sports one logo taken off and the ESPN logo put on. I think that's the entire purpose. Can he have tried a little bit more or just? It really seem there, man. I don't know what I'm doing here. This is crazy like five minutes before rolled his palms together. Here's what I got. I feel like here you go hayman's because that make any sense. He would go crazy. Hosting a New Year's thing. Live have fun. Mail it in a little bit. I appreciate that feel because I I'm not familiar with Stephen Smith because I'm completely ignorant ESPN. But even me as a hardcore like, oh, yeah, it's different right now. So even as a heart grow it gave it that effect and as boxing fan kind of like, I went back to watch fatal rivers, Matlin, Linlin and forgive me. But I can't remember the really drawn a blank on the the boxing announcer. He called that fight. And it was just so cool to hear classic boxing announcer. You know over a fight that even even even rewatch. All right. Well, hey, we took a lot of your time. Sorry, I know your family, man. But it's always great having you here and. We will definitely be tuning in for like, I say go or Dan, and I are supports you guys on patriot. And when the forward to affliction day of reckoning, I think you said is coming up. But thanks, thanks always for your time. Man. We appreciate it. Hopefully, we can get you in Vegas in studio sometime soon, maybe you need to fly out here. More often it's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. My pleasure. And thank you for the support. I appreciate it. All right. Take care. We'll see. Folks, we're gonna take a quick break. 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And so he chose he chose to take the right of sorry of the way of being classy. So I think he did have some choices. Kevin. Yeah. I mean, he had if he wanted to look save as image in any way. He's gonna have to say man, I estimated them, you know, go that route. So I did the right thing in about people. Maybe they just put their head down sit. Anything those good them to do that. And my other point was Henry, the hoodoo men. I was saying before the fleet people are counting this dude out completely count them out to is in Olympic champion who was coached under the branch brothers. If you know anything from the Russian real, do, you know, the branch brothers in hell elite? They are. All man. Did you do the smoke them, easy, blah, blah, blah, and completely shut up the haters there? But I do wanna talk about the stoppage because I hear a lot of people saying, oh, man. It's all about protecting the fires. You gotta protect the fighters. They sign up for this. They get paid hundred thousand millions of dollars even some just. To put their health. The mine is what they signed up for. You. Gotta let it keep going TJ dillashaw was turning into him. He was still moving if he wanted out of there. He ended up like chill son and turtle the face down wait for the referee coming save him. That was not the case at all. He was still moving trying to continue to fight. I just felt like all these people were like, all you. Gotta let 'em keep you gotta stop the fight goodstuff, which I was completely disagree there. I thought you gotta let them fight. You gotta let him have a chance championship fight. Let them get put out. I said the same thing. Kevin levers, Michael Kesse. Michael key up. You gotta let them get choked out. Let them get choked out put this week. Let them get knocked out. I mean, they get paid millions of dollars. Let them get knocked out. But that's my take today. Guys. Take it easy. Right, buddy. Well, I think we all agree that we could have taken a little bit more. I think we've all said early nothing to agree. Just but. Yeah, early and his second point was, you know, about dillashaw. I mean, I don't know what form or threatened got caught up on. But no one I knew that had a brain said dillashaw gonna smoke. I think people said dillashaw might win. And these are my reasons, but anybody else's probably just some cartoon character at anybody. That said that there's these are solid fighters. So no one's going to smoke. I I haven't said that too often. I know I say from time to time and just what I've been wrong, but it is really really hard to just smoke somebody at this level, especially chambres champ agree and update on Alexsandr Hernandez has I point he will be on the show Friday. Oh, cool. Tom. It'll be interesting to get his thoughts on where he's at. All. Right. So guys. We talked for a while with bent, folks. And we amongst ourselves chat a little bit about this ESPN air that kicked off we're very pleased with the fight, you know. They did a lot of promotion. Through their talking heads type shows through their social media live reads on other sporting events. But there was one unfortunate incident that took place involved area Awani who's actually from ESPN. It's only gave us even somebody outside. He's within the family. He went on the damn number tarred show to do what he had done all week long. And that's just promote the launch of this. You know, you have see on ESPN the card itself. And you know, this isn't any unfamiliar territory for ten number talk. Because it's basically the same thing as somebody coming on to promote boxing, or or or pro wrestling, you know, and Dan Libertad, I don't know why. But he treated them horrendously. And I don't know why he did that. He doesn't seem like the type of guy that. Punks people. You know, I mean, he may have an opinion. But I've I've never that's like downright rude. What he did? I mean. I was saying like even even amongst friends like even if they were the best of friends, I still think you couldn't get away with. Well. That's just my boy. And that's how we do things. It was pretty bad, dude. It really was. And it was hard to listen. And he also spoke bad of me he actually called him. A may, you know, the the sewer like, we're the sewer sport. So let's go to cut number one where the retired calls of amaze sewer, and he's basically bringing on aerial to do it has to do sell the enemy, but is showing interest the damn sewer, really handsome too. Don't say it's a sewer. It's. Sewer ESPN didn't want before wants now. All of a sudden it was too violent for Disney before. Now, it's fine. I wanna call my mentor, Ariel just sell your thing. Real quick and thing. Thing with the best part about this is that I've only been on your show once I mean fan, and we actually share a common bond with our hatred of Jeffrey Loria who killed my baseball team but much than killed the baseball market. Lou that so he denied him favorite. He's not treating him very nicely at all. But areo says fuck this. I'm just going to go on there and try and sell the spot. I got a job to do. And you notice a couple of the guys are piping up saying, it's not the sewer. Now, look they made disagree. Let's say all five of them say oh fuck this sewer. The sport, you know, of a maze, dude, you're working for ESPN, and they're trying to sell subscriptions. They've committed to one point five billion over five years that's three hundred million a year, and they wanna get the SPN. Plus, and this is the flagship sport that's going to take them there. You know as far as getting going. So trust me they want to sell this. You know, whatever it is you feel behind the scenes, I I mean, you gotta play a little bit ball. So I think the teams trying to tell them like yellow broke, you know, what are you doing? And he's not catching on. I'm like how how dumb can you be? How stubborn can you be? Or what's his hate that he might have that he's acting this week? Do you guys understand that? I don't it's brutal. And like you said like Ariel had every every opportunity to kind of fight him back, and he did him a favorite thought trying to turn things around on his show. Now, look areas China like continue to the spot and watch retard interrupts them and tells them the show he leaves the Expos. And then he goes, the Florida and he killed them market. And I'm like, wow, I'm so excited. Dan limit tire. You know, he hates Jeffrey Loria. He's the guy who trying to baseball and Florida and saying the last time I was on your shows when I got banned by the U of C, and Dan was making jokes about big j journalism, and then he kinda fended me. And then he had to text me with his tail between his legs. Like, hey, that's the show. That's what we do on our show. So. Oh, fun. Now. This is my big triumphant return on showed up for a second aerial shut up. Shut up shut up. Shut up on him down again. Pod. Him down again Shahri? Oh, shut up for a second here. It is listen to me. Okay. This is how it happens around here. So rude, the I remember Dana white for a long time. VM may. Let me take you back to the beginning. Yeah. The I was gonna say the MA and also was going to say, but the previous clip I was gonna weigh in and say that man unless Dan lebatardshow only seen like you'll Romero fight who looks like an internal. Where's the sewer thing? Come from, you know. But but yeah. Now that I mean, the m make kind of says it all there and his own guys like us at George perfectly noted there. You can almost sense that you're right. They're almost like pub- the brakes Birla, you're gonna throw yourself under the bus. And and you know, a lot of those guys that's older guys style of I don't really listen to that too much. But that's that more like older guys dial of radio or segment segment not producing, but you know, executing. I don't not my school of things and for reasons like this because when it backfires on you, it looks really bad. It goes from stick too stupid for sure. All right, listen, I want to continue with this. But let's take this last break. And then we'll come back and all the rest of what happened with area Awani from ESPN went on. But then. Lebatardshow which can be found on ESPN and yet it didn't go. Well. In fact, he was treated very very unprofessionally, very rude. And I wasn't a fan of man that sucks as I was a fan of Lovato's. I didn't not like that one bit so close we'll be right back. This is the way it went down at ESPN. Dana white wanted John skipper to just be seen at a fight with him. Because that's is as many of you know, has the reputation of sewage and that sewage isn't something that Disney -sarily wanted to get into bed with so much ESPN. Plus, and so now what has happened? Is it Disney sees, oh, there's money to be made in MA and Disney's buying everything and ESPN is buying everything. And so now, we're telling you that the violence is. Okay. It wasn't okay before. But but now the violence is okay. Now, we sell it to you with the SPN love the violence. Your life will be a lot better. Here are gorgeous than goes. I don't know, man. I I'm not Mr. psychology guy, but I got must've gotten his ass kicked by somebody or he's into deep. He's making this argument for so long that is going to be the bad guy over it. Maybe, but you could tell he was like harboring feelings, you know, like, there's no reason I don't know whatever. When the referring to John skipper is a former ESPN executive and Dana wanted that. Yeah. Of course, that's pretty smart. Look there was a point in time where Dana was trying to get the best deal for his company. So FOX Heaney FOX was gonna offer money. It was word that maybe NBC sports might get involved. You know, they're warm to mixed martial arts. And of course, ESPN I heard Netflix. They were rumor, so yeah, I could see Dana white, you know, leaving tickets to many executives whoever was gonna maybe get in the biggest deal, but. For being honest ESPN's. Probably everybody's first choice. Got a lot of money in the the huge, you know, any SPN's worldwide. And especially a sport that needs validation. That's all right. Let's see. I think we have time for the last cut now here they continue on. And this is about eleven minutes spot or so, but we we kind of selected certain little points at one point, by the way, he's actually FaceTime timing Kornheiser as he's made aerial, wait. This whole time corn Hauser. Yeah. I I didn't understand that Tony Kornheiser. So can you go to cut four, please? Josh ward. Lord. Yes. I do. I love this sport. Yes. I do too. Big day in aerial is essentially the face of our media coverage in zone time. So Ariel just sell what this event is. Now that what I'm not here to sell anything. I'm not here to anything. Listen, the only interaction I've ever had with amino Hassans, I believe is in studio was on Twitter McGregor. So I know what you guys are doing understand. I'm not here to sell anything. You can call the sports. Sue is do all you want. Your your great at your job. But you're missing one important part of that history lesson he most important part of that history lesson is that the great Jimmy Petar is the president of ESPN a recognized that enemies, they wonderful sport. It's him down. Come on down. All righty. Do it for you enough this bringing out of here? The look it may be a disagreement of opinion, but why not debate and have fun with it pot him down. I mean again back to my ignorance on ESPN. But this guy sounds like more ignorant than my ignorance towards ESPN. This guy. Sounds like the Bill O Reilly wanna be FOX you really going to market yourself. Like, what is liberal arts background like clearly not as an athlete or anything that had to do with any type of respect or competition or putting your own balls in the line because someone doesn't speak like that. Or is a really, you know, that's. He does he does have a lot of success. This came out of nowhere. Honestly, I've never even heard. I've heard of discussion with somebody and he couldn't even had fun with it playing the bad guy. But that was just border line. Actually. Guys were saying exactly it was passed route. I mean, it was hatred is what I what I'm trying to like almost like he maybe has a hatred towards area said that they had some sort of history got treated bad another time. I don't know he'll go back on it again. But that just makes no sense, especially with all this being brand new. They're trying to sell subscriptions. And you'd think they'd get off to a better start. But we gotta get on outta here. So I want to thank our guest today. Mark Henry, the coach Mark Kennedy will be traveled with Marlin Ryan's to Brazil for you've seen ESPN plus two they'll be headlining versus hot fail. And we also want to think Ben folks for his time writes for us here at 'em may junkie. So catch him all of these week. He puts out great stuff. All right tomorrow back again, eight PM eastern with another edition of radio until then champions.

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What the Heck: Episode 4 | Frankie Edgar, Dominick Reyes, Alexander Hernandez, Laura Sanko & Gilbert Burns

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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What the Heck: Episode 4 | Frankie Edgar, Dominick Reyes, Alexander Hernandez, Laura Sanko & Gilbert Burns

"You're listening to media long. What the heck with Mike on Enemy fighting DOT COM? Now here's your mic. Hello there welcome to a brand new episode of what the Heck on MMA fighting DOT COM may fighting Youtube page. And wherever it is you. Find your favorite podcast. My name is Mike CAC. Hope you're having a great week copay. You're staying home but at least staying active and trying to make the best of this crazy situation. We've got a fantastic lineup of guests for the show this week but the MA wheel just continues to turn doesn't like a lot of news has come out over the last several days we got the NFL. They have canceled or postponed their twenty twenty season. They reportedly released about a third of their roster on top of that. But they're going to be paying a a stipend to the remaining fighters on the roster and I certainly understand the decision to do that. I was a little surprised. Did so early. But if you really take a look at the roster from top to bottom there's lot of international fighters so being able to pull off a a season especially under this format would have been very difficult to do. Bela Tor they have postponed. Bella tour to forty four which is supposed to go down on June six in Chicago headlined by the rematch between Michael Chandler and Benson Henderson. So that fight. That card is going to be pushed to another day. Bell Tower is however looking to kick-start things back up June maybe July sometime in the summer and host events from a Hollywood sound stage. It's kind of like the old days of studio professional wrestling perhaps like WCW Saturday night back. In the day for US elder statesman that grew up during that time maybe they can have the the cage on one of those circular things that spins around between fights but a that'll be pretty interesting to see once that comes out and of course with the UFC may ninth is very much a thing. We found out earlier this week. It's gotta be called. Ufc Two forty nine and as a reported on Tuesday multiple sources confirm to me and other members of the site that the event will take place somewhere in the state of Florida. I WANNA give a shout out to Lynn for creating the greatest fight graphic of all time when it came to that event you can check it out on our instagram page. But you know the from from what we gathered. The fighters the teams. They're scheduled to fly into Jacksonville Florida to get ready for fight week. Although the actual physical location has not been revealed at this time. We don't know what the Hell is going to happen. But we're going to keep posting all that but of course you'll see to forty nine two point. Oh we'll be headlined by Tony Ferguson. Versus just engaged for the interim lightweight title Henry Pseudo versus dominant crews for the bantamweight title. And how Tony Ferguson? Successfully weighing in this past Friday at one fifty five on the nose there is only one L. Kukui. We're GONNA be talking about that. The event itself in a whole lot more this week. On what the Heck's let's run down the lineup. Let you know how this is all going down this week later on the show. We're going to chat with Frankie. Edgar the former. Ufc lightweight champion. A little more than ten years ago captured that title by defeating. Bj Penn at UFC. One twelve in Abu Dhabi. We're going to talk to the answer all about that. What he's been up to during these quarantine times plans to move to one thirty five and much more. Ufc reporter Laura. Sanco is going to return to the show to talk about all the changes that have happened in the UFC. Over the last couple of weeks she was actually supposed to come on last week. And there's a bit of a story there plus we're GonNa talk about a whole bunch of other things. Ross GonNa talk to Gilbert Dherinia Burns. This guy has been trying to get a fight. Since he defeated Damien. Maya finished him in the first round of Brazilian as of now he hasn't been able to find that fights. We're GONNA check in with the reigning twitter champion Gilbert Burns later on the show. Dominic radius is GONNA join us a couple months removed from that awesome fight with John Jones. Ufc Two forty-seven in February as you all know by now. John Jones got. The decision is still the champion. But it's one of those controversial decisions that we're still talking about but we're going to check in with the devastator in around twenty five minutes or so but first we're going to check in with Alexander Hernandez who was supposed to fight on both iterations of the April Eighteenth version of you have to forty nine. I it was going to be is on market. Jeff in Brooklyn then undefeated. Omar Morales was going to be his opponent at Tachi Palace before the event was just off the table for April eighteenth altogether his name as you may have noticed was not on the fight card for May ninth air. We're going to get the answer as to why and much more right now. With Almond is on. What the heck we move ahead to our next guest a very relaxed next right now. The tough tough fifteen lightweight in the world. It's a little strange because had things gone on the way they were scheduled to. We'd be talking about what happened at USC to forty nine. It's been a bit of a while road for assault but definitely for this man Alex Hernandez Alex how are you? This is the debut of massage table crowded. It goes right now on the table. So we're GONNA real intimate Look today but But Yeah I'm doing good man show and I just got back on the Mega already on the horse. But you know I kind of relaxed reset last week. A little bit with my body. Cool off 'cause you know just the. The toll takes on your body getting ready for camping for that week. So I just didn't things outdoors and start hitting it really hard The ladder into last week and then getting into this week. So got my dude here. There's yes he's he's working on the legs and we're getting back to man. Get back to work today. You see him in a really good place mentally right now. Probably Mo- mostly because of the massage right now. But how have you handled the sort of on again off again happenings with you? See to forty nine and April eighteenth and all that stuff. Yeah I mean that was a rollercoaster ride. You know like I said you know finding itself takes such a toll on you. You know you get the anxiety. The sleepless nights The physical toll the emotional toll and so the the whole the whole thing. I mean it was. It was Miami. It was like You know I am. I mean my own head. Coach fell out at one point. He got sick Thought LIKE AWESOME. Shit at some point where I was just having a fight through and and just train but every time I'd start revving up I get like insanely nauseous and really hot and so I mean getting tested. It's difficult really worry about that. Shit but I I just I mean it's like we were all kind of dropping at one point But again you know my employer in my opponents weren't really Pandering the fear or you know adhering to really any of the laws or any of the like a pandemic was going on at all so we just had a kind of on this Mountain of optimism. You Know Kinda keep that perspective with a UFC and Just push through you know not be a bitch and and that that's what I did and I got a fuck load better in the last two months. I mean I've been. I've been in Cambodia since you know since January I it seems so I hard for a long time now and And I've radically improved and I kind of justified or sort of confirmed that to myself. Isn't these last few days taking off resetting And not wearing a worrying about an opponent so much an event and just coming in having some phone with the guys in the gym. Really good to get in here. So we're kinda open the doors a little bit and And just ran through everybody. Just follow these poor bastards teammates just got humbled so that felt good. If you take the blinders off. Have some fun and just Just fuck people up I I am. I am in a pretty good Pretty good space are now. I've got a good workplace Before me right now and I've got a bunch of eager guys. I ready to get back in the gym So yeah we're not. I mean we've already kind of got over the whole idea and I'm just looking for the next thing now. The last time we spoke you were actually in the Middle East for that fighters for freedom tour and you were talking about viewing things in a different light through that experience. You know what the soldiers deal with overseas things. You may have taken for granted but I think the most important thing to you was being able to form your own opinions about a lot of these different global topics and not going along with the perceptions of others like looking back. How much is that? Experience helped you when it comes to the corona virus. And what's going on in the world right now? I mean so much I mean mild thing and it's kind of like a philosophy that transcends everything is that like stagnation death like like movements life. You need it and so for me. My biggest thing was like I'm just not going to pander to these fears and insanity that people are running with like I'm just GonNa keep letting my life these act saying. That's exactly what I did like. I train the same. I operate the same pretty much every capacity that Iran. The only thing was going to the the grocery store you know felt like apocalyptic now or whatever you know it's like a like the fucking world was about to burn down but but other than that like I stated my bubble always home gym home gym training partners. Fortunately it seems like Brazilian. Just don't give a fog so I I had the all the crew there you know we were. We were getting things done Pretty much the same and it was It was good. We just I just didn't I. Didn't you know indulge the fears? I just kept moving. I kept working and when I got sick I just kept working and Now fucking eighth. I should update Kobe's probably trying to deal with me right now. Figure out like the NFL to conquer my shit. I probably talked about so. I'm not I'm not I'm not like I'm just not worried about it. And and the more you know information comes out with the ratios death ratios and people start kind of realizing that we've been categorizing everything into this cove umbrella. You know the more I hope people kind of be like okay. This isn't maybe everything is cracked up to be is not the in. The world is not something to like really even hide from you know. Just just take care of yourself like like like anything else helps found within you know and And so I think we just need to operate assaults ourselves take care of ourselves beer best version of ourselves before we go. I don't know pointing fingers. Creating proxy conspiracies. Or whatever the fuck else like you just take care of yourself. Get back on track a lot and And so I think I think that helps. I mean without do with the Middle East thing I think is being level headed. You know just maintaining a level one. You mentioned that you were sick. Your coaches sick. Do you think I don't know if he got tested? You mentioned things about testing and really get into it too much. Do you think you had it at all or do you think you just my dad's my head coach did Abbott and breathing that dude's air. So maybe I did yeah Maybe by just fucked it out decision. I had to get ready for a fight. That's what I was GONNA do. I said that's what I was going to do. And that's what I did in the best shape of my life so I'm ready to Take on whatever challenge are ready to fight any opponent that's available here in the states. I'm ready for whatever I guess you know you're talking about. I guess maybe just perspectives and things like that with that trip or any other trip. I've done honor just One thing that I was able to do was have understanding and sympathy for The Russians leaving prematurely. I mean if they left me maturity but maybe they didn't you know those flight bans are coming up the likelihood. The fight was was slim. You know dim dim outlook for sure and then ended up happening anyways and so I have to go back to their country and get back to their. You know their homes their families. I can understand that and so for it wasn't something that I liked dwelled over. It wasn't something like talked on. I just got back to it. And and my flip. Yeah makes you deal with me? Did but yeah I was just. I was just ready for the next thing. So that's that's what we did. Yeah I thought it was kind of interesting because you know the market chef fight was the one that was lineup and then once we figured out he was off the card. Omar Morales was slated to be your new opponent. I mean he's undefeated at a great win on the contender series got to win in the UFC. No disrespect to Omar but to go from top fifteen guy to a surging prospect. Like Omar. Were you happy with that match up because I was a little surprised to see that name? If we're being honest here and that goes back to the rollercoaster ride and I just had to like this camp was able to take over my mind and kind of get back to this cavalier state of not giving a fuck at all I was. I was training and prepared to fight like a man who had nothing to lose. I wasn't worried about shit and so You know there's a fight on fight off okay now. My opponents out of the country for sure out. Okay now I don't have a location. I don't have an opponent that goes by for a whole week. Try not to check out then. Okay now we got a list of names. I thought Michael Johnson was going to be the name and then the next day it was like this. Is Omar Morales Guy? You got ten minutes. Do you want him or not. Okay what happened the other ones? Those other guys are off the table. Do you want sky? Not I mean fuck you I wanna fight so just give me the guy. I don't care who it is. Just give me the guy okay. This guy's got the Guy Meikeljohn. Scotty Guy Everybody got guy they lined up the car and you know and then one week before fell out but it was just you just had to be malleable and and roll with the punches. You know multiple whatever you know everything else because all I can do is try and and and sometimes that's not even really picking your opponent is just who you got able and who do they want you to fight and it seemed like that's who they wanted me to fight so what. I was going to do by the same token though I've never had an opponent that wasn't top fifteen guy I've ever got fought since I've entered the AFC. And I didn't come off of you know another giant organization just came out of fucking you know the with a humble record of under ten fights everybody that I fought At the time assigning was top fifteen ranked opponent. You know. Even if they weren't by the time we actually got to the card. What we were negotiate. They were and And so finding someone like Morales would have been someone that I naturally would've fought on my way up and would have had the opportunity to kind of rounded spice something different and also also just for the sake of separation of degrees showing people that I do belong to the thirteenth because people doubt whatever just because of how I've kind of like risen in there and how I just jumped in like I wouldn't mind putting on display of. Here's the difference between me and the and and here's why I am where I'm at Is it is it. The Rain opponent the caliber. I WOULD WANNA but it would have been a guy who is trying to take my head off who's hungry than how and an underdog and I always respected under doc. You know I didn't. I didn't mortgage hiring opponent in less time. So he he's certainly not the overlooked. Was there part of you? That was like you know you're not giving an F. mentality towards the fight and who they present you at this point was there. A part of it doesn't matter who the name is. I'm going to put pen to paper because it's probably not going to happen anyways. And so that was that was a shit park. You couldn't say it wasn't going to happen as much as like that. Big Part of your brain. I guess called logic was like dude. There'S NO WAY TO SING ASKS. You had to keep your heart. You gotTa Keep Your Heart Health High and keep training as if it were because I mean the last thing you want to be checked out when it's time to check in so I I was just prepared for anyone and I just keep the belief that it was gonNA take place I think the whole process is a little frustrating. Seems like man? Maybe at a certain point you don't you don't keep pushing Because you'd really dragging us you know through the mud with you but it's a it just wasn't it was is it. Experiece ran a grower whose metric for sure. And you know it doesn't kill. You does make you strong and we did. We became a better team through all this. I'm not not not at it. So we saw the May ninth card sort of get put out there. Your name was not on it. So were you offer to fight for that event in. I seen something that you weren't you weren't interested inviting on that card. Is that true? Yeah I don't WanNa find on that guard because again. I don't want to be strung out by the time I get to a fight. You know I've already been preparing I've revved up for a specific date the date out. So I don't WanNa get strung into this may ninth Debacle if it falls out too I wanNA see that happen. You know I was. I was on the front lines before. Okay I WANNA see I wanna see I wanna see somebody else. Do now see that may not come to fruition. And if it does the looking at doing the sixteenth twenty-third to put put me on one of those carts twenty-third card After we just know that it's a possibility to have fights because the last thing I wanted to get to May ninth in not happen. And then you get strung out to the next month and your body's just taking him a fucking toll your mind taking a toll on again you get literally like a strong out sensation like data more broken rather be under the Nova trained. So you're just you're pretty much done with the roller coaster ride of at all. It's just a fight card actually takes place and then at six days notice. We can have snow here in. I'm prepared get back. I just I just don't I don't want to keep just getting dragged. I don't WanNa keep you in drag to uncertainty. Which wants clarity so I was down before. I don't want to keep doing so. Let's see let's see this may ninth happen and then we'll see what's up. I know the UFC put together these. These conference calls for you guys on Friday and on Monday and Sorta gave you guys an update on everything and most of those topics were leaked out as you've probably seen at the spine but do you feel better things or maybe have a clear sense of what the plan is between your employer and what you guys. Are you know sort of heading into after attending that? Call talk about paychecks. That's why I'm curious to another question. That's really on kind of on my mind to is spent a lot of money in preparation for especially because We got away up to the week the the week of and so the chart the week before and so It's costly it costs personally on your body. And then of course paying your coaches and convincing. Go her she knows guys to put on during a pandemic you know might be a little extra so That's the only thing I'm curious about. Everything else is still to. Me Is is as great as it was when the guy cancelled so anything that we've done a good job bringing new clarity but also you know it's just kind of the world right now. It doesn't have a lot of clarity. Do you expect at this point to get some sort of compensation for this past? Saturday's fight at all. Like just based on what your conversations you've had it was I mean it was declared so so I would I do. I do expect them to come through. You gotta pay for those massages man did. He's are not cheap. I'll tell you that opponent wise does it really matter at this point. I mean it can't be market Jeff. What makes sense to you as Morales? Anyb- it doesn't really matter at this point. Let's let's not give the know exactly at this point is just like Who on soil and WHO's prepared. And that's that's the way they only credentials. We could really run by I need action Victories will further propel my career and and just WSB. Usc again. I I didn't get this long road up cutting it to like tailor make anything or a really create is like along with a highlight. Reel off of you know. Nobody so I was just prepared to do that on. Somebody's but pandemic strikes and we need somebody to get knocked out. I'm not that guy out. Whoever it is I don't know I will. Yeah indiscriminately do that. I wanted to ask you about this because brought up some interesting things about the mental and the physical that fight camps. Take a toll on and I've had conversations in the past about this. You know like most things. This is something that probably gets easier time. But how do you handle like the post fight emotional swings? I'm not talking about wins and losses. I'm talking more about you know you put in all this work. You have a day you have an opponent you have a goal the glitz the lights. You have a fight. And then it's just gone and I've talked to fighters over the years that win or lose once that feeling is gone and the fight is over it puts them in a funk like it's almost like a depression in a way. Is that something you've ever dealt with before? I don't catch that where your shit I'm not. I'm not like I'll do that. Shit Dude I'll tell you what though I die at any moment after victory. I cannot die after loss. I think that all the fucking time. I'm like I'm happy with my life that like if I'm GonNa play which I'm on very regularly you know just just between me obligation worker fuck in training you know after after I could good victory on top of like fulfilled my seal this plane crash. I'm I'm I'm good. I'm not worried about anything. That's Aronie loss. You cannot kill me I could not die. I had to get some redemption back beyond top again after a loss it's like I'm just constantly seeking The next point of redemption but after victory. Alum good life then. I'm just wanted to know what the next victory but I'm not. I'm not chasing The applause by any stretch. And I'm also I WANNA be a fighter for life. This is what I want a different. I wanted to achieve my goals and I wanNA move onto the next venture you know. I'm I'm I'm Alex. I'm not you know the guy talking. Ese Fight I'm not unlike pride myself on title like that so when you did. You have a time line on this. I mean I know I wanNA bounce out before thirty five. You know so twenty seven right now. That's plenty of time to get my shit and get everything I need to earn. Make my connections still go up and move onto the next. You know the next venture. That's what do you think that's going to be Well that Irish. Take my whiskey some key. Like those Paul's do growing third hand. I look so fucking ugly to say spirit balls and all this other Tequila now. Isn't he. Got One okay. Well you know I just gotTa make more now. I Guess Chevy seriously I didn't WANNA WANNA cancel any last minute Because each time and I a lot I don't pay attention my times anyways. Wake up in the morning and check the I ten and Mary so I was like well. I certainly don't want the MIC. Like that he's got schedulers here too. You know this is. This is way better this way better than just sitting in your gym this every interview like this the hang from rapture something next time fucking come more things. I'll let you finish the rest of the Messiah Ferguson Versus Gauge. You do you like in that fight. that's tough. I think what most opening rounds? I think age has got a shot I can. I almost say gauges advantage but then if it starts going into the fourth round and maybe even the third or fourth round maybe even halfway through the I kind of mindsets change now that now that he's got the time and I'm so glad he's got the time because I fight honestly bothered me because I want to get you to have his His I wanted to have his his his time to try to prepare the way. She's been fighting like his last few five-thirty knockout vic Cowboy Barbosa the way that he's just walked down in an islay those guys something's Clayton and he's changed. He's not he's I think he's always been compose but he's just really refined and And articulated has gained better and so now He takes less to do more and I think the way that he's been taking is out and the way. That Ferguson is Accessible to taking shots on the Chin I think age has got a great shot of putting him away in the opening two rounds. I mean a great shot. Ferguson always loses the first round In the first round and then just devastates the second round Against a guy like gates you. That's not really around. You WANNA lose. You know those opening rounds of really decisive might give to gauge you now did. I just wanted to fuck it. Freaked out there. I don't know convince me I don't know I really a week ago. I was all Ferguson. Thus are more now. I'm Kinda gauge. He I think it's probably the fight of the century. I think it's an incredible. I really I don't know I wouldn't WanNa fight either one of those guys right now. My career I'm with you. What did you think of Ferguson? Making wait on Friday. The guy's a maniac. I mean I. I think that's exactly what you need to do. You know to to be to stay true to himself to stay to keep the fear and people's hearts and to to keep To keep true to you know the the Guy who question his sanity that that was the move to make and And I I think he's I think he's a perfect maniac. I think he's a workaholic maniac. I think he's I think he's exactly who needs to be what he needs to be. Especially for you know. His occupation and his roles champion so Admire I do I think I would never do that. I don't think that there's a big enough point it but I I see why he did and I'm into it so you know. Keep on keep on being you. My man enjoy the rest of that massage. Always great catching up with you. Look forward to seeing. What's next head? Stay healthy safe and all that good stuff. We'll talk soon man. Thank you all right. Rights theory is Alexander the Great Hernandez kicking off this week show and that was a that was a pretty wild chat was not just a little bit of everything in there and that was definitely the first time. I've ever interviewed a fighter while he was on the massage table. But we will see what is next for Alex Hernandez at a hundred and fifty five pounds now check in with what are the top contenders at two hundred and five pounds. He had that incredible fight with John. Jones that you to forty seven and February came up just short. Let's say hello to the devastator. Dominic Reyes we have dominant grass on the program and many still believe a little over two months later should be the. Ufc light heavyweight champion after that incredible battle with John Jones to forty seven. It's been a little while a better chance to chat with the dominator in this capacity. Dominik how are you man? I'm good how you doing man. Great first question which is the most important question. How are you doing during this crazy? Unprecedented time in the world with Cova. Nineteen how're you doing? How's everybody around you? Doing you know everybody around me. Safe and healthy. So that's nice. I'm doing all right man. Just Yard Work There. You go and you're multitasking crazy. Driving very safely as we could see the hands free technology working in your favor. I see it's great having you here like we sort of touched on this. After your win over Chris Wideman in Boston at the post fight. Press conference from Viral Cao's in the regional. Seen to your quick you have debut. I remember interviewing you after that I fight and people were coming up to you and recognizing you on the streets in the middle of that conversation then you were headlining events writing that I mean it's crazy man like six or so years story. This would be a little bit different at that. Bell is on your mantle but this has been a crazy ride so far is a non. It's been the most awesome right. This is wave is is gnarly Bro. I love it every day is like I feel myself getting better. I feel myself maturing and figuring this game out and how Man I'm having fun. It's hard not to smile and I know I know in Boston. Your first you have see main events. This is something like a bunch of us in the media covering the event. We're talking about you just so relaxed the whole week. Like walking around the hotel walk around the city like you were just having the time of your life you would just take it all in as you're preparing to fight. John you know. This is the goal in people's eyes. You're fighting for your first world title. Did that fight. Feel any different to you. Was there any extra in the in the Butterfly Department Strange man all week. It was a little it was a little more. There was a title fight And it was John You know. I regard him as the best of all time. You'd be honest. So that was that was big for me as well but yeah I I was a little nervous My all my nerves went away when I was driving to the arena on fight night. I was driving. We rented Lamborghini. And I remember talking my brother and be like hey man like no matter. What happens bro? Like I know that no matter what happens I still have you in my family and No matter what it's going to be finally it's talking to this no matter what happened to this fight. It's not going to change who I am so like. He looked at me and like he's like. Yeah Bro you got this. You're more than ready like no matter what happens. We're all we're all here for you. No matter what heck yeah and then it all just melted away and I was ready to go. I was like I got the arena was so relaxed now is just kicking it like backstage even more even more confident on fight night like as you're pulling up to the reader especially Lamborghini for God's sake you know we're us even more confident heading into that fight man as soon as I walked in As soon as we got a heck yeah nice custom fitted suit. I look good. I was Oh man I was. I was like I'm here. It's time this is my night. This is my time the only thing that's GonNa stop me tonight as me so if I was great man you gave. You gave John Hal. You've talked about it a lot over the last couple of months. I'm curious. How many times have you gone back? Watch that fight with John since since it happened so I've only seen it twice. I've seen it. You know hundreds of thousand times amount head but I watched it on on camera twice day. They can change watching it back. I mean you're in there watching it back to. Did you see things differently because I know I know watching the fight at first because I was recapping it? I'd scored her for you. I watched the second time with the sound off and no computer screen in front of me. I still had scored it for you but I thought you know. I guess I could see how some people thought it was a little bit closer but I still scored for you. Did anything change watching it back at all now man? It was exactly how I remember it going. He was actually better than I remember. Going in my head so that was cool I mean it was just like I thought I mean it could have been. It could've been four to one for me I still. I still hold that that same. I mean you look at you. Watch the film in the beginning of Fourth. I had them hurt Pretty good and then I kind of let off the gas. Because I didn't WANNA wear myself out but whatever it is what it is. We'll come back and we'll knock him out next time as you see as the world has seen at this point at locking happen in a short amount of time we're in the middle of a global pandemic and in the midst of this wild times. John Jones found himself in trouble with the law. Once again I saw you react to it on social media not long after after seeing the reports. I don't know if you watch the videos at all that that have surfaced. But you know what was going through your mind when you saw this news. First thing I thought was like again. You know like the way this guy doing secondly was I'm glad it didn't happen before our fight and then third was. This guy. Needs SOME REAL HELP. So that was my entire thought process on it and that was really it is there. I mean like you said you. I think a lot of people sort of reacted us that we figure he just needs to to get the help that he needs. He needs to do it himself. Is there any part of you that feels bad for John? Thrall this no not at all. I feel bad for a lot of people but definitely not John Jones. Ever in a way with all this kind of leaves a lot up in the air in terms of the two hundred and five pound division. Especially right now. What's going on in the world and we've seen how the UFC has dealt with these situations over the air. Sometimes they act on it sometimes. They don't do you think they act on it here. Do you think there'll be any repercussions from the UFC. Should something happen here? Man I I don't even. I got nothing for you man. I'm not. I'm not one of those decision makers Honestly I would like to I think the punishment should be rematch. Tom That should be the punishment they said. Yeah I'll I'll survive some justice. I'm fine with that. Let's do because I know you've done some other interviews and you essentially said that he was interested in running this one back and they were talking about. Maybe in the fall Craxi from wrong. Because I'm spitballing here. But it sounds like you're in. They were in John's the one thing holding it back is that accurate. That is accurate is all frustrating right now because most people would agree. I lay my cards on the table. And I've said this before I think the rematch makes all the sense of the world but I think you but with all this uncertainty being so close to becoming a champion and just not knowing what the next move is you seem very happy but is it a little tough for you right now. Deep down inside. I'm very happy is you know I'm healthy and happy man. But it's a little frustrating you know I would have gave him a rematch. If the judge were escorted right you know man. You got the good fight. But I don't know he's not exactly standup Guy. So I don't he's a guy where you expect nothing if you get something you're like yeah cool you know. I don't expect anything from this guy. Goodness for him from him but if we get along so I only can control what I can control at the end of the day and I can control my attitude control. You know I'm training other than that. You know. I'm not going to stress out or something. I have no power over power over where I could you know. Keep poking the bear and all that but you know. You don't really need to do that again. But why smile and happy like ever. That's the best way to do it. You've seen we've seen Yawn behove which makes his presence felt and division. He wants to fight with John after the finish of cory. What have you made of? What Janas Blade man the social media? She stuff that he say this Don. That's hilarious man. Young man wait a one of John with his weird like gay talk and then one bit like yes that the tweeted a year. Twenty twenty s over. I don't even think he intended to be the tweet of the year. I don't even know. There's there's quite a good a lot of good tweets that that was just. I was good. I respect young. I respect that outside of the tweeting in terms of the fighting. What have you made of him? I think he's a fantastic fighter. I think he's one of the most technical guys in this division. I think he has some really good. Our yeah I think he's just technical beast and he has a lot of experience aware he's wise with his technical ability. So I I've been wanting to fight you on since I b Jerrycan near I don't know if you guys know or remember. I called him out right after the fight. So I mean this is a Guy. I've been wanting to fight for a minute. There's interim than yeah. Let's do it but I think really that rematch. I think you're going to get the job invite happening. I think I think I'll get it over a yawn. A whatever Polish fight but if he wants to pop some cherries and Bolander. Some weird crap. I bet he did. He did say that. But who does I mean? Is that sort your time. Line the fall or if they offered you saying the interim fight with you on June July August would would you jump on that opportunity or would? Would you rather wait till the fall? I do that much. So you're so we're doing one two three two or three months down the road. You're in a couple of a couple of fingers man wasn't that what an exciting time two. Oh five is right now. I mean it's a very fun. You got some guys on the com- year he preska is in the UFC now ready to make his debut. And you've gone from the hunter to the hunted in a little less than three years in this division so from a competitive standpoint you gotta be loving this right now you gotTa love being haunted and the exciting match ups potentially coming your way. Did I freaking love it so when I first got in the NFC? I always talk about trying to revive the division. You know being the new face to is. We got guys coming up. But I'm just the leader of the class and that's exactly what's happening. Man We did. Division is going to be exciting for the next. You know as long as I'm in the vision you know it. It's going to be a lot of fun. There's a lot of great matchups out there for me And the list is Louis is so long. Now it's exciting so exciting. I'll just a couple of names of guys that I respect them division. I think I'll fight in the future. So we got racquet Alexander You got Alaba we got Djedje pro the new guy that just joined but we got to see how he fights corey Anderson Johnny Walker. Yon Tiago getting. It'll be fun next. Couple seven eight years besides the yard work. What else you've been doing during this during this wild time you enjoying the quarantine life where you're ready to sort of move past all this at this point. I'm no I'm I'm kind of losing my mind. A little bit but try to make the most of it but I don't know how much longer I can do this dominant do i. I agree I completely agree. I'm I'm getting a little stir crazy. You're not crazy enough to go out and do some crazy stuff. But I'm getting stared greatly. That's for sure But to be present honest man. It's it's a lot similar to my life. Normally without Calvin I stay home a lot and I trained and I go home like my Routine is pretty You Know Triangle Home. See My family triangle homes in my family you know and then every once in a while thrown eight adventure or or nightlife event you know so it's similar but I can't do things with other people anymore. I can't go out to a club or it's like just the beach. I mean there's so many different things so I'm ready for this to be over man. I saw your team. You did some Blue Page van. Zandt for TMZ talk about that and how much you enjoy that experience. I was really cool man. A team decided this new thing called Flight School It's on snapchat and T- pages the host And it's really cool We talked about some of the stuff. Like for instance. We talked about my uppercut that landed on Jones. You know and kind of what I did to set it up and how I've seen it so it's cool. He's really nice. You know I think page is really cool I never met her before until then when she was really nice really welcoming. She's very sweet girl so he just cool really cool. Not Shows Pretty Cool to love to check that out. I want to end on this note. One thing is for certain you have had a lot of support on the rise up this division and even more so since the John Jones fight a sport like this it could be like the most negative place in the world but it seems like that support for you just continues to grow and grow and grow. What does that mean to? You means a lot to me man. It also means I'm doing things right. You know I'm just being me. I'm not trying to be a character. I'm not trying to be you know colby or or or trying too hard like I'm just focusing on my craft and just being happy you know. I think the fans are seen. I'm focusing on my craft. And they they respect that I get better in between fights. You know they re. I think that's what the fans really appreciate is my ability to go out there and get better and as well as you know. Inflict as much damage as possible. You know I like I like I like fighting I enjoy scrappy. You know and I I the Fan. The fans are receptive to that. So I appreciate that 'cause I truly love it and they could see it out of me I think and I think that's that's what it's about. I had a buddy of mine who texted fifty minutes ago. Want me to ask you this because I know you were. You're a football player. I don't know how much you follow the. Nfl these days. You probably follow it a little bit but the Tampa Bay buccaneers. I'm up here in Massachusetts. They got they got gronk. Now what what do you think of their chances? Now how heartbroken should I be at this plan if I was you? I'd be pretty hurt right now because I I don't know man. I think he should have retired there. What does he need that much? More money for like yeah has a crazy amount of money but whatever man I I would see disrespect if I was in Boston anyway. That's just me. I think campus not going to be that great still. I think it's the same story but we'll see. Brady's hell leader Ed. Gronk is he'll bring a lot of energy your squad. That's for sure so we'll see what happens man. I think it definitely boosted their stock. That's for sure as far as championship caliber it takes a lot more than one guy says football. You know if it was then maybe he can be champ go. I mean I think I think Brady's has got this massive chip on his shoulder now wants to prove to do with us the paychecks and are going to hurt either. He's making more money than he's ever made in his life and Geez Louise to to be that guy right now but we'll see what happens. Not a bad not a bad gig to be Tom Brady. That's for sure absolutely. It's not a bad gig. To be dominant grass. Either man what What a road. This is bad. We've we've made it to the Promised Land anyways you're almost there. You're a win away from having that gold belt around your waist and I can't thank you enough man. It's always great catching up with you and I'm glad we're able to do this after all this time. Stay safe stay healthy. We look forward to seeing what is next for you. I appreciate it man. My my pleasure might have Goldman care better very relaxed a very happy dominant. Greys joining us on the show. I realize screwed up. The nickname called them the dominator. The beginning of that interview something. That's been with me ever since. But you just gotTa forge ahead when you make mistakes like that but always great catching up with the devastator. In my opinion no disrespect a young behove. It's yawns done recently. Has Been Great but I gotta run that fight back with John Jones or at least if John is going to be out for a little while. I'm totally okay. With behold which Orissa's raise for an interim title I know that word interim has been thrown out more than the cliche octagon jitters over the years. But it kind of makes sense here especially in the current times. Gets these guys a little more money which I'm always okay with the winter. Confide John Jones. I'm good with that idea as well. And it seems like dominant grace is not opposed to that either as we bring in our next guest. This guy has just been surging up the welterweight division. You just finished Damian. My in the first round of your Brasilia last month seems like it was just yesterday but it was over a month ago right now. He's the number six hundred seventy in the world. Here's my chat with Gilbert Birds. All right we move ahead to a man who may be having more fun on twitter than anybody else on the planet right now. If he's not sharing funny failed videos. He's calling for big fight. So let's get an update from Gilbert Doreen. Yo Burns Gilbert good to see a man. How are you you doing brother do great? I know it's a difficult time in the world with Corona virus and everything. And how much are you having with twitter and putting these videos out for the world to see and I'm GonNa go soy to be very honest with you? I share the first chalance and I figured like three or four. At first time that are sharing these videos the video and I got ta a message a piece that was the first lack that gives you they in an olive. I ate that was the only that made me so happy right now. So art like again a ton of message the like it has only now this the only reason that he made me smile. Those these tweeted and then okay. I guess I'm going to do that. And then people will have fun. Just I just get. I was having a lot of fun I like. I don't I don't get you a lot of managed but these forces. If was made me so hard I liked that a lot. So how'd you like? How do you find them? Scouring the Internet looking for them and then just posing like how are you? Are you finding this videos? They have age egr issue. They call. He's like okay. Show Kinda like the the translation of the coffee and And the guy was sending the everyday. Look these just and a Lotta guys in Brazil. Guests Left those videos shoes everybody assumed star Policy Efi allowed of people SRB tweeting a lot of people just sending for me. They said it at every hole just she. A NEW WAY. That was supposedly was forcing it. right now. I can give a little break way. Still a little might shed And finally so I just kept posting the just the ticket get this. I'm like thinking about them right now. There's just ridiculous. I'm waiting for the end of them every time with With the guys dancing and everything in the music playing in the background you've got like other fighters in the UFC getting involved. But you're getting tag left and right with these videos. It's your your bring the fighters together in a way during this uncertain time. Gilbert something to be very proud of right walls Google and a lot of fans like us and when they saw all any any of social thank you meet and decide. We'll get through for days on that. Oh she got into a lot of fighters they make you find the e East coolidge. Funny doesn't hurt. Nobody a lot of people laughing so right. Now I'm gonNA keep doing it. Gave Ben Askar the business the other day as well? Why did you decide to take that shot if you don't mind me asking roll like sticky? Dan Astronaut elect his. I thought the guy I know that was a fight that I want and he talks a lot and I just I was. I was the dues Nannies folks on that. So these guys Dacian and come on that. That question was for it. Was those essay. Come all the way like just a little. I don't even know being asked to see something better ball yet. Or No. He personally by the character as a fighting that he does. I muscle much like I just want to each one of the guys that Sukhum bidding. They'll be one of my fix for. Shall we all love to compete against nationally? Hoping that just have a little follow either. I know he likes to you going up. You sign opportunity. Just took it right agro June ads e I will do southway. So let's talk about what's going on with you these days because we had spoken about a month or so ago. After the Damian Maya fight first off you fought on the last events before everything got postponed and temporarily shut down. Do you think about it like man. If I was booked to fight a week later who knows where things would be? You know very blessed very very lucky very I don't know I don't even know how to describe but they're happy especially with the by. Has the horse that ahead. There was the first event with a closing door crazy crazy. I told you Gar- way more way more nervous than than usually there's no no nothing and now yet but it seems very happy very glad that the flow of those less event that we add in the yeah. I'm blessed in while we was one reach after a outbid be nuts now because I know a lot of is life to fight and know. They love to compete. But I think I'm one of the top five. Docs three guys that love to be. You know I loved. Beat like I've been talking to a couple graduating that. They already going to do. The soon finds out waiting for my name and there are no. I think it's GonNa be a little hard to get an and they fight right now. They're going to have that. One may nine see we? I mean we don't know for sure we hope they have. The May nine the show us and she saw get him back are often made but I just love to compete in. I'm glad that they had the chance to compete in voice. I didn't have fought while I'll be right now. A trainee like the crazy soup. Sanya law student like a God the keys from a condition coach for the Union. The keys I can go there. You know do my workout clothes. You can go ahead that they have right. Dollar worked out a couple of recessions And I have my the right saying that I have two guys that that's Comey. They come in almost every day and we are literally rattler scheduling all ex-teacher anyone they yes. They will wrestled today. We'RE GOING TO WRAP LITTLE. Be The wanted because she want is far harder night so I still don't mind my reverie scheduled but wages then before we don't have the Food China full of we have a lock in the gene. We're not doing lots together but I still doing my best to stay saved by while. I'm glad you're ready to fight the next weekend against Tyron Woodley for that London car that an an happening and a couple of weeks ago you went on twitter and said that you got turned down again and reached out and you told me that it was widely who turned out again. So what happened this time around from your perspective? So what happened was the first time alone though. He declined to fight in the after the agenda Voice Castle after the the President Speech Dana Castle. He wants social media at all. I said the five Uber there was a lie and he just asked get on the fight for the May nine the scarred that that that's coming in He kinda gave the credit for the April. Eight and a half of the sports happened. He said he wants to get these scarred in shout. Dana said the only guy available for you burns and they all let me say Baltimore gave a couple of days your bird and then they have they have one spot for mainland and I was already docudrama side chain Get ready and I heard they have once a article REC- wounded ask for that spot. A Straw says just universal. Just you don't want that it's GonNa be available to fight on like on the top seasonal five. You're the only guy and a dog. GimMe a couple of days. The Freedom Ball involved by that was when they activated our tomorrow. We will now and I was hoping he says he is by yes. Why not interested in fighting Uber Right now? But I'm okay. We guys declining fight like he salamis. They like here's the respect a lot because he was out Kim Year WanNa fight. Usc Let's say I'm not training boat like a high Lima Jimmy foreigners. And I'm okay. Go problem I know again it. You know I and stay. But the guy that he spends eight. I'm fine and multi mode and now you're not a big choose fight and I lost all respect and I had to tire me. I had a lot of respect. Guy Used to give champion former Jimmy. That he had to defend. That was in was fun at all as defined by the way he did that. Into the way he'd be rob. Laurie lights among the respected. By but then he he he just wore year. You should think look he just by one time a year. They lost after that he just not fighting anymore and they come on the guy. Cows Essay Leash Jimmy title. Five of my birthday. Come over after that lightning. That Guy's playing a rock Geena Tara shop for my birthday Komo Mike. That's that's crazy man. No respect for the more. I'm down the mouth I'm die. You have seen more available. We don't know right now. Like a lot of people changing the force train yard. Gt to be saved. Let's see someone. Bozo the fight warfighters off on May nine legis. I'm I the. Oc knows that. I'm ready to fight. Maybe that'll I'm duck calling these fail. I'm just GonNa keep doing what I'm doing. What everybody that they put? Its own need attention. I'm GONNA fight that believe that we can apply it but I'm just calling this issue on a fi refined Neil Edwards waterboy. Just WANNA give one being call any one of these talk. Try guys wants a fighter. Moselle but we do not want to fight him once you. I'm doing the need to do the hard task of beating the number eight number ten in the number seven. You know I'm GonNa do. I'M GONNA give dorm room eventually. I'm going to be these ice and harder to Hulu. Because guess what. He's just yet from thirty seven thirty eight stupid that nine. Forty Jada. I fight where you forty. I don't I don't mind if right now fighting when you have forty they would drive. I'd rather fight. I feel like you're the wildcard. And hundred hundred seventy bonds right now. Because I'm not gonNa tell you who was but I've talked to like two or three different fighters we're talking about different things they're like. Yeah I WANNA fight on one of these cards like I'm ready. Cova be darned like I WANNA fight and I'm like well. What about if Gillard Burns is offered you? Because you know that guy wants to fight and you're like I'm not really sure because I need to train for that guy like all due respect like nothing but praise for you but if the surger on maybe like an actual training camp to fight you. Does that make you any better about it or is it still kind of frustrating? Because you're having a hard time landing a fiery now. I'm learning to control my eagle. You know like you do to to to don't let my ego get controlling a cell phone so you know I have a lot that if my eagle we still have a big piece on me and my evil be so happy out they wanna find me. But now having more self coach you'll be more situations I rating because I wanNA fight I WANNA be. I WanNa get better like like the only way that that. I want to compete. A lot is because norm. You know go visit competition. That's how twelve years old. That's our star. Cheney and after mouse I said well I don't even know what was it. Just I don't even know the moves yet. One muffing my I d she mouths and in my second competition to marcy my tire competition and other stock committee. And that's how it got better choice. Not just going. Through the Ginger and ensuring hard we join heart less committee. And that's the only way I know to get better. I guess we're sure there the vessel Yang stuff out for he and his wife me more you know lights for everybody needs to one hundred percent lights for me to be any type of guy on the top Jan tops. I need to be one hundred percent and to one hundred percents more me each the fight against me. No the competition against me is a lot of things that I need that need to. Don't do another seems a lot of guys. Do you order to be one hundred percent. But that's me that don't offend. Mycosa don't depend on nobody McCain Pas de depends on me I need to that we'll just to prepare the bay that that that will to win and Hesse I get I know I'm Barbara now. Number six in the Welterweight Division for my Eagle Knights Great Nice being off seeks but Real Gilbert. The hungry guy that loves to copy may sometimes. I wish I was on. Ranki REFINING NICKEL PRICE. That no that guy wants to fly. I'll be fighting eighty one. I'll be fine you know but I'm on the top secret than they say no fight anywhere. There's you know doc seats. I don't I'm not gonNA give her not raining now and I know a couple of guys WANNA fight new price. I love these I and I know he loves copy. Give it that you say yeah. You're right now. I don't know talking Marci. He's one of the guys that I find you. Don't care but they not of the rake allies may get all. I say that I kind of earn a position to get a Renchik. I in everyone in already or they. I don't know Brad. The respect bookable guys they they just Kinda I I have a Mitchell worldly. He just that Dana white stopping looking like that and drake. You know that one that you want to fight indy champion. Now you WANNA stay reputable daily. Yes Oh that's all these guys want you know they just want to say spot at. I don't like that. How do you kind of balance because eventually you just got to get to a point just like? Oh my God like I have to say. Hey Buddy what's going on going on? Usually that happens to me. Usually my kid comes in during my interviews and that happens all the time but it's I see it happen on the other end but how do you sort of bounce like the competitor Gilbert Burns? Who just wants to fight all the time to the guy who has sort of earned that spotlight during the top six? Now you guys that are ahead of you. You want to get to that belt but eventually you think there's going to be a breaking point where you're just like I don't care about the rankings anymore. I just WANNA fight somebody. We're we keep going but don't get a fight like he's WanNa find the guy. Just be honest. Let's pull the names that really don't WanNA fight. Why he you have if I had an appointed to sort call. Your weather's guy that's coming out a lot of ways. Total respect to the guy and time was scheduled to fight. Just because the whole thing Komo now you are the more I was fighting these couple. You sign the contract. You suppose on that. So now he don't Wanna Fi- And Colby WanNa get a neophyte. Together not fight but he was a get wall fight fight. Full Begin Neil winters to WANNA fight Woodley so I kinda I WANNA go. I WanNa find winners but got it because you he deserves the fire. Woodley and I don't WanNa Fires you know they're fighting but it okay? You wouldn't who WANNA buy Hanes Brocchi. Nice Guy I bought you but I he's GonNa get to avoid that all. This corona virus needs to be done and I think if you WANNA boy Edwards a colby or would give what what you need to fight years after Leche. All genetics at dickey's would lead those guys. Keep your vision. I'm wondering if I jockey you and let's be off new let's push a respected these guys and just willingness scenario scenario. Okay I beat this you guys and they they gonna find me now Dose maybe I gotTA The price to beat these guys just to. I don't know because you're the the Fusaro these guys relevant. He just gone. Okay let me be in a I just the Guy. They Megan just finishing the guy the first day you guys just make all along the Houston by the won't last long so I don't know I get frustrated sometimes but I try to trust us the time to get better but I I still armored boy like Saddam's you that didn't compete and fought yet. Actually you're not that makes me Hologram than I don't know I'm just GONNA put all my energy tiny own goof on your Barrett in is GonNa be like a pit bull. He's angry where he wants to fight. You'RE GONNA be on the on the gauge. Esso's you will ever people go. There will be hungry in going to the fights and can wait to try next. Fight to show these guys. How how Woodham did I'll bet him get Dahlie on so that was frustrating. But I'M GONNA put on my hand trainy so if you had a gas. Do you think your next. Competitive Event will be grappling or anime. What do you think's GonNa Come? I just heard. The shore grappling had great relationship with the Bachelor Program. Are They GonNa do that With closing doors very soon in just put my name. Oh we should. Actually I better be on that either. She'll one you know because I'm not a May nine. They eat remorse from May sixteen. But we don't know. But part of emanate preparations rapidly. So big REPUTA- anyway. So but you have to guys Mike. I guess I'm going to grow up in before I find that you'll see. How are you enjoying the extra family time with the quarantine? I know my kids around all the time you schools off for the rest of the year. Are you enjoying it? How you enjoy somedays about another Gilbert line. It has been good to just like I'll work and I'll take five a few minutes to go downstairs and hang out with them and once like I have a break in between we'll run outside for awhile so it is nice having him there all the time but you know. I think you know what I'm saying on some while feeder. The truth is true. I miss my training. I mean you know might mentioning. Foreigners had beaten at meese fighting to the AMI's about what it means and most Kubo is a key to score like love. Mike Eat Bashing that I had on my life right now. My my kids and my wife. But Wow twenty four hours the keys. Twenty four seven while so much about teaching training were running biking we basketball me trump. Alina go everywhere. We doing everything all Apple Games a while. I Miss School so much about. I love my family but when you will little bridge I'll be jealous advantages over our. I'm just GONNA hold people. Just get our loopy. Give a little all by myself just as Ross likes. I love to family but Tadashi need that little break. You know schools `perfect eight to two no key. Thank you come back with we music. He's a little bit with playboy. Going back I missed the road team to be honest. And he's Monroe Big shots all the teachers out there. Because I've always always put you on a pedestal. But now you're on like the biggest pedestal. After all this time now I share a lot of awarded for for the dishes. They deserve to go. Wow Mike trouble while so when you're when you're not trading you're hanging with when you're hanging with the family or you know if you're not creating twitter videos that are making everybody happy. What else are you doing? Is there like any shows your binge-watching reading any books? Like what other things are you doing with this extra time boy misery the books? I get books that data. That really saw reading This week I'm down with the books. I gotta go back to the book of Greek. Just watching that leaks from start watching the father follow that said the the the police water police one on Athletes Godfather. We Watch these one. A lot of games with the kids like four nine called the D. N. A. Facing what mostly via game she she athletes watch a lot of fights but with the family more naturally fishing fishing a lot. That's the first time that really y'all better than a little play around Data so we run. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA post little feeder. They don't yes they will. They play Dick Dr. They Love Dick. Thought they were all in they saw Anthony Banished Showtime kick the day gave up on the Henderson. They both date They both might both games veteran Josh and they both leave the gotTa Post these one. They have anti. They will batching. The kids like drilling over in Norway and I was getting tied to hold the feds in doing so. I like you can have a lot of energy source Anything THEY DO. They do a lot of energy. A lot of we saw the. I'm having a lot of keep that as well by tha family. Pay Your ass. I'M NOT GONNA be. The Gal auditing all super national goes. It'd be so hard he'd been real keeping it real on the show. I let you get back to the family. Man Always always a pleasure. I think I speak for a lot of people say to you for trying to put smiles on our faces during these uncertain times in the world all the best to you and the family hope you can get back in there sooner rather than later. Thanks Gilbert always a pleasure catching up mark shade on YouTube Digital from Gilbert's Dorino Burns Ladies and gentlemen always great chatting with him if he can get. Some fights agreed upon this year. This could be a massive year for him. But he's in. He's that weird position where you know. He wants to fight up but so do all the other guys ahead of him because once again that top five you're just looking right at the UFC title right now at one seventy in the AFC is a very very very strong division. And it's GonNa be interesting to see what Gilbert Burns is next. I have a feeling he's GonNa have to sort of take a step back to at least get a fight which he really wants. Maybe take that you could be a guy. That sorta takes Tony Ferguson. Approach up the hundred seventy pound matter. But we'll see what's next for Torino hopefully sooner rather than later who check it with our next guest. She is officially the first multiple time guest in the very short history. Of what the heck is we? Welcome back you'll see reporter Laura Sanco couple of weeks ago. We checked in with our next guest but in this crazy sport things can change in an instant. And that's what happened with this conversation. It was one that I truly enjoyed but unfortunately things change and a lot of that conversation became sort of old news after the April eighteenth iteration of UFC. Two forty nine dollars cancelled so we want to bring back on catch up on all the moving and shaking regarding this abandoned the UFC in general. So let's welcome back. Uc reporter Laura. Sanco to to the Laura. How're you back? I was laughing because when you posted that interview someone commented on twitter. Didn't age well. And I think the ego and me thought that they were referring to me and I was really hurt by that but then I realized oh they met the interfaces because everything changed like twenty four hours later hopefully they met maybe they did mean any. Maybe both who knows either way. I'm at peace with at all. It's not you it's either me or the events that as and I think when people who aren't fans of the sport ask me at the anime news cycle is crazier than any other sport. I feel like our first conversation would be a great starting point to prove that theory accurate. Would you agree totally agree? I mean that was uploaded that what ten hours after we spoke last. I Dunno less than ten hours after we spoke and it was all completely a moot point and that is that is the name of the game around here. I definitely want to get your take on a number of things but as some people know you're supposed to be on the show. Last week you had to reschedule the last minute because of an unfortunate incident. You were very apologetic about having to reschedule which was not necessary at all. But if you don't mind could you talk about what happened last week? Yeah so if people follow me on instagram. They probably know that. I live on a farm. Technically ranch because we only have cattle. But it's not a Texas size range. We have one hundred and fifty acres here. But what is? Kinda unique about. I don't actually live in the country so like out one window this way. I can see the Gulf course. That's connected to the country club in the neighborhood right next to us. And then there's another neighborhood right over here but we have this chunk of farmland and so we have farm equipment. I mean like I said we have thirty five head of cattle and do that whole thing so it is a working farm in that respect and we woke up Easter morning and a big piece for equipment had been stolen. It was our Polaris Ranger. Not like the razor. Where it's they're fun. It was more of a farm version and a bunch of tools have been stolen slick twenty thousand dollars worth of stuff. And the worst part was that they they. Whoever did it was not ultra intelligent. They went through the fence. Which any farmer will tell you. I would almost rather you. I would almost rather you wake me up and I'll open the gate for you. Then run over my fence. Because the entire property all hundred fifty acres which. I don't know what the circumference is exactly what it. Several miles is one contiguous electric thick wire fence. So when you break part of it putting it back together is an absolute mother effort to to be polite about it but it was just not a good way to wake up on Easter. It's weird because we don't have we will now but we don't. We didn't have security cameras where our equipment is stored but our neighbors who just build across the street have excellent footage where we can see specifically the vehicle the people we know roughly what they look like can watch him go win. Rick a bunch of stuff. I'm just I'm obviously thankful that no one was hurt and all that but it's weird feeling knowing that other people are in your things and often in doing them or profiting from them or whatever but like I said there. That's certainly not. It's not the worst thing that could have happened. So all in all not a huge deal but certainly not fun either. So are these very intelligent individuals still on the loose right now. They are unfortunately and we were able to piece. It was kind of fun. My husband was so annoyed about it and he's got too much time on his hands right. Now do a lot of people so we canvassed the neighborhood that that leads the direction that we know that they left so we have a lot of people's rain camera footage them them tearing down the street. We know what vehicle they arrived in. We know what time we know that they were also canvassing that neighborhood and the other neighborhoods around us for other stuff so unfortunately a lot of rain cameras. Don't have high enough resolution where you can actually get a license plate or the right angle to get a license plate so we don't what kind of car it was but we don't know exactly who they are so no they have not been apprehended and like I said the only thing the only thing that made us feel slightly better. Is that this very electrified fence that we have like. I said it's very thick wire. The bottom wire had clearly been cut by some sort of fence cutter. Whatever it was a clean cut but the bottom wire is not hot. The Middle Wire you could tell had been cut partway through and then someone had stopped cutting it clearly because they got the shit shocked out of them. Because I can assure you don't WanNa stick a metal tool on that middle or top wire at the top wire had been driven through so clearly. They cut the bottom on thought. Oh no big deal went to the second one got the shock got shocks to not to death but you know got shocked pretty bad and then screw this. We'll just drive to the top because the top wire actually broke like a quarter mile from where they went through but anyway that is unhappy. Someone got electrocuted. That's all I mean you've got to find silver lining wherever you can obviously sorry that happened to you all hopefully that all get squared away in your favor and and thank you for sharing that but let's transition to another wild world anime the UFC. Let's let's go back a couple of weeks ago. You come on the show we hype up. Ufc Two forty nine in April eighteen. You Find Out. You're going to be a part of the broadcast and then hours after the show was released. It was no longer happening. April eighteenth how did you react to all that especially since you were so excited to get back to what? I was clearly so pumped unbelievably disappointed unbelievably disappointed and I literally. They must have had phone tree. Set up or something because you know right now. When every bit of information people are starving for it. So they're aware that as soon as anything has announced just spread like wildfire. So I think that they didn't want to tell us first so they I'm guessing told Bright Okamoto initially about it and then as soon as they did they told everyone else because literally. I got a text from my boss just moments after I saw something online. Lose LITERALLY WITHIN TWO MINUTES. So yeah it was really. I was really disappointed really disappointed but I understand. I understand why it happened. I think we talked about that a little bit. You know when you and I spoke. I do understand the other side of the equation but very happy to say I'm headed out for May night so I have a new goal to hit. I'm excited to go to those fights and that card looks crazy. Good with the May ninth event. You find or you're going to be working as well when you saw that. This was getting real again because I think people expected it was going to be a couple of weeks. Maybe like another month before he could start putting things together after what happened to April eighteenth. I'm sure you're excited to find out you're going to be a part of this but do you ally yourself to get too excited with all the uncertainty in the world. Right now yeah. I'm finding myself being a little bit more reserved about that type of stuff but I had posted remember what I posted. I posted something I was actually after I had the we had the equipment stolen. I posted something on Instagram. Where I was just honest about how I was feeling about being cooped up in missing all this work and just feeling like my life was Not My own hands which is not feeling that I particularly love and Not long after that. I remember but I think the next day Dana very kindly message me and he's like hey keep your head in the game. I want you know like as soon as as soon as that other got called off. He's like within a day. I was already talking to Disney and ESPN and getting this. Figure it out and may ninth is going to happen like don't you worry like we're GonNa make this work so pretty soon? After I was really disappointed I felt at least a ray of hope and then as I saw more and more news come out I felt good about it and I'm kind of confidence going to happen. I got travel booked today so just as most of us know now fergus. Engaged athletes going to headline this car to the enemy Thailand. You gave a really incredible breakdown of the fight which you could check out in the archives of the show but now you have a chance to gauge. Who was GONNA take this fight on less than two weeks notice? Originally now he gets a few extra weeks to prepare for this wacky puzzle. That is Tony Ferguson. So I'm sure this is going to help in so many facets getting that extra time but how big of a difference does this make in your opinion for just engaging heading into may ninth? I think it makes a huge difference because Tony One of those guys that you know he he has. He's not well. No one's a perfect fighter. But Tony Ferguson is not a perfect fighter and this is another two weeks that just engaged. She has to study his game to study those openings and be amazed what you can accomplish in a short period of time when you know exactly what you're dealing with who you're going to be facing and while on one hand. I love that Tony Ferguson made. Wait I only turn Tony. Ferguson would do that right. It was a very tony. Move part of me is like. That's so incredible. It's so cool. It's so difficult to do but the analysts side of me. I don't love it I don't love it for the fight itself because it's not that far away from having to do it again and anybody who fought. It's probably far enough where I don't. I'm not confident. It will have any effect on his second way. It cut but anybody who has fought on the ultimate fighter will tell you firsthand anytime you make weight that close together if you have a reasonably difficult cut which. I think Tony does that. Second one is rough. Your body does not like to do that too. Close together so part of the fan awesome. The analyst like Nova would have done that. But it's cool that he did it and it definitely shows the mentality. That makes Tony Ferguson. Who Tony Ferguson is? And what he's like in a fight. I mean the Guy. The guy does not give up. It doesn't matter what odds he's facing. He is one of the most mentally a fortified individuals that you'll ever see inside the octagon. You know just engage. He's a wild man and I think he's got two extra weeks to work man. That's that's a lot of time to study a lot of time to prepare some specific combination. So I'm even more excited for this fight than I was. Yeah Tony such a savage. Like just he did that for himself. But obviously you got to believe. There's some psychological warrior. There's well I've seen Cadillac of like both sides of the sword like kind of the fan and the analyst side of it and Daniel. Cormie said something pretty interesting on Monday. He said that it essentially won't be as hard as people may think because when he starts his cut again he's not going to be at like one seventy nine like he did. Maybe for this first one he'll be like one seventy three one seventy four so it's going to make things a little bit easier. What do you about? How sort of looked at it. Well I think. Dc's looking at it like a heavyweight DC. I think that the heavyweights are not going to bounce up to their hanging out way as quickly as someone who is cutting too lightweight does Y- that lightweight. Cut those guys. James obviously really good friend of mine fought it lightweight for a very long time and he's taller like Tony Is. He's he's actually big little bit bigger than Tony is. But the guys that cut to fifty five. I don't care who you're talking about. No one has an easy cut to fifty five. That's just the way that those two weight classes are situated with each other so while he might not bounce up to his like on just hanging out walking around wait. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody. That has an easy cut to fifty five and again I just go back to all of the many many people I've talked to That have either taken fights close back to back or we're on the ultimate fighter And I've seen it happen in person. It's happened to me when when you cut way when you truly cut wait. We truly make wait. You spend time in the Sauna. Whatever you have to do. Your body does not enjoy doing that a second time to close together now. How many would've three weeks apart? That might that. Certainly I know that sounds obvious to say three weeks is a heck of a lot better than two weeks it gets you know the curve of how much easier that gets is kind of a hockey stick. I think but I wouldn't. If I was his coach I would not have. I would not have been a huge fan of that but then again like when you know Tony and his mindset and what he needs to do to keep his mind right maybe the risk of cutting twice to close together is outweighed by the mentality that that would the energy that that would bring his mindset coming into the fight which for someone like Tony might be way more important so it's going to be such a wildfire and another fight. That's really interesting. Get Henry. Sahu defending against dominant cruise with bantamweight. Title I think it's been it's been almost three and a half years since we've seen dominate. Henry's been on a tear as of late stylistically when you when you put these two guys on paper such a fascinating fight. What are your thoughts on pseudo versus crews if such a fascinating fight and I'm so excited to see dominant cruise back in the mix. Abana waited again. I mean this completely shuffles the deck for that weight class and we talk about someone who has one. Excuse me the most dominant champion. That division has seen but to have not fought in nearly four years open so many questions. But I'm telling you if you were to ask me fighter a Fought fairly recently. Had A great fight. One fighter be hasn't thought for years also did not win his last. Hurry going to pick nine times out of ten. I'm going to pick the guy who just bought and who won only dominant crews and I'm telling you only dominant crews can spend four years away from the Octagon and comeback and not miss a beat and that is what I expect from him. I know that sounds crazy but having spent time around him. He is a mentally unique individual. He is one of the most intense people I have ever met. He's of the most intelligent people I have ever met his ability to analyze. You hear it obviously. All the time on the broadcast I think he is. One of the most capable analysts in terms of just on the fly really breaking things down that we have and he puts that into practice. He's it's not like he's been away from the game and he's the kind of a running joke honestly that Dominic doesn't relieve in Russ. That's kind of his his his mantra that he tells about other fighters all at time and he really does believe that has. He added new tools to his game. We have no idea or have. These injuries affected his ability to move and his movement has always been the key to his game. Because it's really really tough to train for dominant cruise when he moves the way that he does but like. I said at the beginning of this comment Henry. Pseudo has looked phenomenal as of late. I feel like if you would have asked me three or four years ago would henry. Suharto be fighting dominant crews for the Banning Weight Championship match. I would say I'd say you're crazy because there was a time when I felt like Henry wasn't really putting it all together. His stance is completely different. His movement is different. He's knocking guys out. He looks absolutely incredible in the last couple years and I think dominic has his hands completely full with someone like Henry Pseudo so big legacy for both guys too because I I understand I understand the fans aspect were like well. What about John? And what about Al Jemaine Sterling? And what about Corey San Hagen? Like these guys have been active in their winning. Like I get that but I have. I have much less of a problem with this fight than I with. Josie Aldo. Agree agree the this goes back to the point. I made earlier about dominant cruise. People have that understanding dominant crews did not take time away because his game was falling off you know. He didn't take time away because he lost his focus or his priorities. He he had to take time off because of injuries and he left on the precipice of of being a champion again. So I think it's more than right to stick him right back in the mix of contender. I have absolutely no problem with with that. Given his legacy. He does use a guy in my book who doesn't need to reprove himself right so. I love this fight although I also get wife I was John Iowa I would not I would not be loving it. But he's got a fight book too as well. I think up in June. Who knows what's going to happen to the schedule. But I imagine that fight will go on as planned positively Mariah's Kazahkstan so that might present some problems. Maybe fight island for that one move. The I'd I'd have to know more about this island on I just was even. It's GonNa look like you know a lot of the April eighteenth event. At least the second fight card is going to move forward on May Nine. We got SIRONI. And pettus. We got Watterson versus Esparza. That's a great but we have to add another fight to this car. I know there's an open spot one that nobody expected the you have C. Might have to add a fight between Meghan Alevi and Laura Sanco because on Tuesday. Megan Alevi tweets quote Laura Sanco. You're taking everything I worked for. What is the story tweet from your colleague? Did you not see she? Must I would assume it has to do with you. Getting the nod to be a part of the May ninth broadcast but yeah she tweeted out. Laura Sanco you're taking everything I worked for 'em well let's just got awkward. Didn't it if she wants to fight? I'm in I mean I. I don't know if I believe in fighting co workers but I feel very confident in my chances that does put it that way. I give. You didn't see that at all. I did it and no one to me. They're really hilarious to watch now. I'm I'M GONNA guess she's joking but yeah. I might have to have to respond to that. We'll see you see this response. Because you're going a sorry my interrupt. Actually I mistaking. That was a fake account of making movies. The thing where they they barely changed name around here is the tweet Dana White respondents thought. I saw the blue checkmark and everything. I'm so glad I didn't see it. Because Lord only knows what I would have written in response but I can tell you like character for her to seize Mary perfect all. That's why I was so surprising to me and I looked at it and I usually more careful with these things but again and I was like all right but a good Lord now now now we turn the mortgage joke. So we're GONNA talk about it but like but then. I realized that you didn't hear about it. Like let me double check. Then while you were talking I was like oh. It was a fake account. I'm so listen I've been. I'VE BEEN DUPED BEFORE. That's absolutely hilarious. I I will say that I was sitting here racking my brain because I'm like I just dot sound like something to yeah. I thought it was just like a total joke around. That's what I hide. Yeah totally plus. She's she's she's awesome and she's amazing what she does so. I can't I can't imagine that she she would feel that way either but that is really really funny. That is what a terrible moment for me but I should have checked something I After after the James Krause fight when there was that card with all of the really questionable judging and that one judge that was later found to have been training with done. I can't even repeat it all now. There were people that were creating bank accounts of that guy. He one of those fake accounts tweeted me and said something like get back in the kitchen. I went off and I am ashamed. Slashed not ashamed to say I may have sent it to someone at the U. OF C. And said we need to never work with this judge again? Because he's a dickhead and then very quickly. Thank God some other people into like no no no. This is a fake account with the fake account and then I like can say is I mean. It's still questionable. But he doesn't need to be fired all right let me fill of it better so thank you for the best of it so come more things for you go. I know you're supposed to be on. The team broadcasts had talked about you. Know sort of how things would have gone from his perspective like he would drive he would drove detach you pass on Saturday. Get tested he would call the fights and then he'd drive home. What would your schedule have looked like for that event? Would you have flown in earlier and been around the whole fight week or would you have come in on Saturday and left on Saturday? Yeah I would have come in a little bit later on Friday and There was going to be a medical check as soon as we got in. We were kind of instructed to really stick to our room really limit the amount of people and objects. Frankly that you that you come in contact and just be really really smart with it. There were strict instructions. Even about the way that I was conduct my interviews which my I'm imagining will still apply to May nights it's tricky because With the social media interviews they are filmed vertically so that they can be put on an instagram story. So we don't have the benefit really of being able to stand too far apart so I actually might be doing a number of my interviews. Almost an instagram live format. Where I'm on a phone in the fighters on a phone in a slightly separate location this remains to be seen and the logistics are a little clunky. But I also said I'm not I'm personally not opposed to doing interviews that would be you know at a reasonable distance either. So we'll see what happens but they're definitely going above and beyond to make sure that everybody is as safe as possible and there is. I think a medical check every day that you're there and they're arranging people's travel to where we're there on site As little as possible so getting late leave early. You know that type of thing come in contact with as few people as possible. Laura can't thank you enough. It is a weird time in the world. They appreciate coming on and talking fights and I'll have taken about the other day because school Massachusetts is officially cancelled for the rest of the year. We got a package delivered in the mail yesterday. Common core math skills workbook. I was like Oh my God. Laura warned me about this advertisement yeah. I'm lucky that I'm still in kindergarten. Math which thank goodness. I have a pretty good grasp of what great are your kids in. He's in kindergarten. Oh fine I saw common common core. I'm like Oh my God. Oh you can't get to common core kindergarten math on. I would be concerned if I had a fourth fifth. Sixth Seventh Eighth and upgrade. Forget it because apparently the way that they multiply and do long division now is completely different than what you and I learned. It would not be a pretty picture but yeah now. We're we are trucking along in homeschool. I don't know I'll have to bring my son on one of these times. And he can tell you what he thinks of me that kindergarten teacher all the best to you in the Family Laura. Look forward to buy your voice and the broadcast tonight. Thanks again appreciate your face very habits and I met enough to Admit Ladies and Gentlemen. I was duped. Can't believe I was duped well done. Megan elite parody accounts. You got me. You got me. And he got a lot of other people at that one. What an embarrassing moment. But they still Lurs Cinco for for coming on the show and at least make me feel better about it but God what a dope but we gotta get ready for the final review. The show is a little over ten years ago. That this man Frankie Edgar became a UFC world champion at UFC. One twelve and now. He's looking to start another chapter in a storied career at one hundred and thirty five pounds. I will preface this by saying the audio is a little bit wonky. You don't even know if that's an actual word but the video quality is tremendous the audio just kinda spaces out a little from time to time but I just WanNa just kinda throw that warning out there for you guys nonetheless. I really enjoyed this conversation so here. It is my chat with Frankie Edgar. Move ahead to our next guest the former. Ufc lightweight champion of the world. Have to be joined by Frankie Edgar. Good to see you. How are you sir? I'm good how are you? Are You doing great? You got the quarantine beer looking strong right now rank to say. I don't think I've ever seen you at the beard at least like that throughout your careers. Is this a new thing for you You know just some on this quarantine I keep saying. I'm GonNa cut it when the quarantine is over but I don't see an end in sight. Selamat reassess situation in a couple of weeks here and see what we're GONNA do. So how many weeks of work is this has been so far Badeah. I'm like six or seven weeks Ed. Thanks though it's a minute for me. Do you enjoy because I feel like you look like a different person. Almost like you look scary. You look you'll go of man with that you don't maybe. I should keep an eye on the guy to begin with so thank you for coming. I really appreciate your time first things first. How are you in the family? Holding up during this crazy time in the world the krona buyers pandemic houser by. Yeah we're we're doing okay Just staying in for the most part. I'm I'm training. You know in my basement China one one other friend of mine Kind of we. We said we got ourselves in a monogamous relationship and only made him train So at least I had one guy could work out with But other than that. I'm I'm in my basement. Are My gym by myself so You know homeschooling the kids. All that stuff is It's an experience that will keep it at that did I did I see on Tuesday. You posted about a tornado or something. Tornado. Wish hitting your house. What happened there yesterday afternoon? Actually I didn't WANNA tornadoes coming. We thought was coming up for Blake. Grabbed my kids Ford came. I'm outside taking garbage out. And all of a sudden it kids starts whipping up in I actually posted a video. My instagram so It's on there but from the direct caveat was my roof need to get a new roof. I've a window broken in my neighborhood is trees down like crazy probably worse than sandy as far as trees went down at least a my neighborhood is everybody. Okay Yeah me. Every everyone saves just damage. I I don't know everyone in my neighborhood got out you know safely. I'm assuming they did but I know. Damage definitely a lot. I think I've seen one tornado land here Massachusetts across the street from where I used to live and I've seen a couple from a distance visiting family down south but to see one in the northeast. That's that's super rare right like have you ever seen a tornado before yet before Tuesday now the this the first time I've ever been in our tornado rather I'm I don't know I'm I'm calling it a tornado. Maybe it was a frigging gale wind or something but it felt like Tornado. Feel like a movie dude. I heard come in for like thirty seconds and almost didn't know what it was upset. The rain was common rain. And when it started getting closer and closer Matt Buzzer was was It was like a movie really was wild crazy in terms of your fighting career. The last time we saw compete was in December against the Korean Zombie. And you took the fight on at least opponent. Wise Way Class. Why short notice because you were scheduled to fight Corey San Hagan a month later. You've been in so many different scenarios in your career. Frankie what did you take away from that fight with Korean Zombie and Bussan I you know I I took up. Tunisia regret taking up. That always talks and you can't go back and change those things but you know I I put myself more so than usual. Going OUT THERE. Eric Before Country. All that stuff I learned is this next time around. I WanNa Kinda put the ball in my core and You know make sure it's a not so much going in the enemy's territory and you know short notice and all that stuff by the way. Did you happen to see Korean? Zombies video about how fighters can cheat Wayans. Did you see that at all? No I grace. I didn't really watch it. Yes so basically what he did. It was like him and fellow fighter. They video did this video where they could literally walk through every cheating scenario that they've ever seen some things that I've seen before like the towel thing. Some things never seen before like the finger on the back and they went through all these different things so the lease is there anything that you've seen it way over the years that people should watch out for them maybe fans and you know other fighters may not be aware of all thing. I see in the back of her. Wear a buddy waited in his friend of ours stay behind kind of lift up his butt cheek form a little bit Kinda. Make a lighter I I don't think that's possible She events guys are not so close. They shouldn't be so close to where they grab your so As far as I don't really know I don't have to have to cheat so cheap and the lights part of the scale to do so. Your plan was to head down to thirty five for your next fight to fight San Hagan. I assume that's still the plan moving forward. That's the plan thirty five I. I don't know who I'M GONNA get matched up with someone along those lines and You know we'll see I wanted to find you before this all went down and you know. Now I see that may ninth as scheduled tentatively and we'll see what happens once the ball gets rolling I would like to get in there typically Ideally have you. Have you already started like changed? Diet and things like that in preparation for that eventual- cut to thirty five. Or are you GonNa wait until you know? Something's pen to paper. You got something in the books because you know. This is a tough time to be thinking about dropping weight. I know I've tried and failed miserably at this point. Yeah no it's definitely not the ideal time to be worrying about weight and not have access to only Menes or whatnot but You know when I decided this past summer os and go down to thirty five. I kind of tricked mind did not get over sixty in pretty much. I probably walk around fifty seven Without really trying hard you know I got my weight in the right derived gateway and you know. Get a date in mind. I'll get Get ALL HOOKED UP WITH NUTRITIONISTS. Really get zero to. How do you sort of look at the? Ufc moving forward right now. Obviously you're a fighter and you've never said no to a fight and obviously this is a different time now than than we've seen in the past but you're wearing a lot of different hats you not just fighter your father your husband your family man your training partner all these different things if the FCC said like Frankie we need you for May twenty third or something. Would you have a hard time taking a fiery now or would you need to wait a little bit or are you ready to jump right in there at this point You know like I said based on my last fight. I don't want to jump into anything. Short notice early. One have a proper kanter. Prepare and all that stuff Always a game guy and if you know. The situation is tempting for myself and of course I'll think about it like I'm I'm disregard. Obviously health and safety have to be involved You know I'm not trying to disregard this whole pandemic and whatnot but you know I'm athlete. I WANNA compete. I mean this is what I've been doing my whole life so that's what I want to get back to regardless of what's going on. Thirty five is super interesting right now. It's just a loaded division. Everybody in the top twenty five to thirty is somebody to keep an eye on or you know is right there. How excited you to just be a part of this division? Start mixing it up with some of these guys. Yeah you know it's cool. It's another extension of my career. Spent half my crib lightweight. And then the other half of forty five so I get a new New set of toys to play with you know what I mean and a lot new interesting match ups and possibly match up with. How do you feel about the match? Making up the top these days we're going to see WHO ALDO NOW. We're GONNA see pseudo crews Who's coming back after three plus year layoff very interesting fight on paper. No doubt about that. But what are your thoughts on on the matchmaking in this division of Yours Yeah I mean you don't know what's going to happen Not so much just my division I think as getting titled Shots Off You know not one but two losses here narrower or guys come in from your layoff getting pedal shot so. You really know what's going to happen. I get why they're doing it. They WANNA popular guys in Dominic crew. This war as a at thirty five. Maybe the best champion. We had it that way so far so I could see why. They're pushing him too long. But I could also see how some of the guys might be frustrated by that. Speaking of champions a little over ten years ago we were actually talking about this affairs. Well you became the champion like you beat. Bj Penn in Abu Dhabi. You've see one. Twelve an amazing achievement accomplishment accomplishment for you obviously. I remember watching that fight with my buddies in this tiny apartment. It was just a crazy night and I remember being a fan of the sport it was like just when I was getting my fan of so happy but ten years ago. You made a dream come true. Do you still remember that night? Vividly inhering the end new like it was yesterday. Yeah absolutely that's That will stick in my memory Right forefront forever you know. I always talk about my wrestling. Career know always coming in second get so close to my goal not achieved so that night achieved that. Become the best best in the world here in an new some. I'll them forget. I mean the first time is obviously something very special. But you jumped. Let's say you're jumping in the bantamweight division you go through these contenders and you caption that second title. In a second way class any chance that trump's first one or the first one always remained up top on that pedestal organized. To wait and see. I'm GonNa give that answer last last thing. Frankie. I appreciate your time very much. You know people are starting to lose their minds with this quarantine right and you're staying busy as you. Can you know but people are just looking for something new to to grab a book a New? Show a movie. What's the answer punt fully? Intended Frankie for those folks and he book recommendations anything that we should check out and read to better improve ourselves during this crazy time. I read the book The outsiders it's a series on. Hbo My Buddy told me to watch it but I read the book instead Stephen King I ripped in the week. It's like a five hundred page book. But I rip. That book is pretty good if files along the The Series Up. Pretty closely though. So that's not a bad a bad. Pick right there at the check that out for sure. Great Frankie really appreciate you coming on and been covering the sport for a little over five years now and this is the first time we've been able to chat so it means a lot anything else you want to get off your chest. Let the folks know before we let you go. Check out my podcast. Champion tramp It's me and Roger Matthews. We have a new episode every week. So I've been doing that in my basement. Actually hearing the podcast room as we speak so Yeah check US out. Are you enjoying being on that side of the podcasting microphone? Joined the the hosts the host. A little bit I am. It's fun you know. It's with my body right now. We've had a couple of guests guys that I mostly trained wit or hang out with getting our feet wet having fun with it. We how far do you think this thinking go? Would you have like you just kind of wing right now or do you sort of have like certain goals aspirations steps? You WanNa take to make even bigger honestly. I'm just winging it right now. I guess we We're trying to stay consistent and the and just trying to have fun fun because it doesn't make money at least I get to sit in a basement. Bullshit buddies a couple of nights a week. Perfect way to look at it. Thanks again Frankie. Stay healthy and safe open. We can do this again soon. Maybe before your your bantamweight debut. I appreciate the time you've got to take. It is Edgar wrapping a bow on another episode of what the Heck on anime finding dot com big. Thank you to Frankie and all the guests this week. I don't think I've laughed or smiled this much doing a show ever. I Have Sam really having a blast doing the show and being part of this team as on the day that this episode is released Thursday April Twenty Third Two thousand twenty. 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UF260: TJ Dillashaw and Alexander Hernandez

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:10:59 hr | 1 year ago

UF260: TJ Dillashaw and Alexander Hernandez

"Hey, we have a great episode of you have see unfiltered, we talk about a little gossip, and we speak to Alexander Hernandez, and we speak to T J dillashaw match been getting a lot of shit over that last interview. And I don't know how this is going to go it goes. Well, Jimmy, hold on cut them. This away. The nobody is sitting chasing that finish. The. He's he's out. This is UFC on filtered. And now your hosts Jim Norton and mad, Sarah. Oh. Some good. That's that's good Java. You're going to do on day. Let the song play on here. Fades out. That didn't it's pretty cheats. Pretty catchy. We have a good show today. We hope we have we do have Alexander. Hernandez calling it. We've never spoken Alexander. But is fighting Cowboys Sironi who does not look the same with his beard? It's very strange seeing cowboy with that beard was older with the beard. Yeah. Like him better without him like two hens. I don't know. Do you think it's a good color tell you Alexander? The great in end is twenty six years old look at those apps on this kid and his lead to won his last fight. Mercier? Yeah. Wouldn't yes. All been mercy. I said that right? Did. Yes. I did. That was a nice fight, man. That's a that's a good fight. I it's always like right here. It looks like it's a tough eight for cowboy I do feel this a tough kid. But man, we count cowboy out the guy wins. I like I'm not trying to get him out. Sure. I think. I think he's a tough fight obviously for anybody. So well rounded, I don't see this kid getting caught in an online the way the mistake that Mike Pence jitsu looked high level. He what is he the Brown belts? I read. He looks good. He looks good on top and bottom. There was some. Mercy. I had some deep some subs at least had one Comoro, and it was titan had several bad positions. And he got out of it. And and here's a great gas tank. And he and he's very well rounded. So what a, you know? It's a great fight. I mean, not nothing. He star Star News. You know? And dude is tough. Yeah. So I what I say Dhanush done new Xiang client what she got it. Jimmy. I'm sorry thorough. So what? Just shit jokes was one of those jokes. I I didn't recognize Joe. I recognized Joe speaking shit comedy. I saw my buddy Deane Thomas was on. Joe Rogan's podcast was he? Yeah. You know? How was he a Joe does a podcast Joe is awesome ice only saw a little bit? You know, like I through the Paul where here my name, and I said. Yeah. Do that, Jamie. He's coming in next week. He is coming in this week. Thanks. Thanks for the warning lost TJ dillashaw is gonna call into. I got some shit. I got some shit over that. 'cause you always look on YouTube like to. I'm serious. Never let me finish. But do you really check on YouTube? I know this what I do. I'm looking on YouTube. I see looking for that. But that pops up. Sure. So maybe maybe like the what pops up pops up. What I was. I said Matt Serra is says. DJ shit on us or something like that. That's pissed it dude. Listen am. I really pissed. I thought about that show away home. He was talking about. Human. I get over pretty quick about a time. These headphones are off it's out of my head. But it's over the airwaves, and you know. So people get upset over it. All you. How you big baby. Which I can't argue I'm outta banned some people because you know, the attack is the ram was. So my my happy, please. I don't like negativities, I'll just ban you. I don't like anything you say to me. But you know, whatever man, I don't know. I like a good time. I have good time. So we're having a good time and somebody else's like it's just like, oh, it's not his fault. But it doesn't mean I can't lash out at the guy say fuck it. So your legs a little sort today to go out and get over here. Jimmy might just rambling. I wanted to mention that you're giving. Why do I look that fucked up because you said that you were hobbling over from Penn station. Did she walked could you still put a guy trailer? I did this morning, man. You tack my guys I'll tell you p Drago sell all these years a rolling. He has one speed. And he has any one goal with the spiel really does he intends MRs goal kill speed. He's intense. He's wants to date is doesn't. And now he's doing the lay Alexander on the phone. Yes. Hey, buddy. We're talking to Matt Sarah. And Jim Norton on you have unfiltered. How're you doing? What's up Alexander? Hey, guys. How y'all doing very well. This is a big fight for you. Coming up. I mean, you've beaten to really tough guys ready. How did the cowboy fight come about? No, just fate. I guess I was as you guys know plan on that although fight and we were about six weeks out. It's probably like maybe Thursday evening after practice, my manager chasing house and meshes me. Call me, a sap text me a few times. So that's either, you know, really good or really bad news. And so when I got done training, I shot him over a call. And he told me that Shelby brought to the table. The option of fight Sironi which like everybody else was like huge huge surprise last. I heard he was trying to talk the idea fighting McGregor or someone of that effect. And so out of the hell they fell on me. I was I was bath as everybody else. But yeah. Like anything else, I've agreed and seize that opportunity so days went by in limbo of waiting on the confirmation. And then again like everybody else feels like I get the final word. When when they do inevitably on the ship, they're going through Instagram and cell tag with with Sironi number photos. And and then I get the tax deal done. So all you find out on social media like the rest of. It always happens. Like that. You know, I got I guess, of course, we obviously get the word that that. It's nothing the works. And then by the time, I get the final word. I feel like everybody else does as well. And you say that works I want to quote you Alexander great quote. He said the UFC is laying down Persian silk linen. And spreading his legs from me right now, which is letting loose all the pharaoh moans. And I am in. I'm definitely taking full advantage of that. So you at least recognize the cowboy is a pretty big to main event a big stage to be on. Yeah. Huge. You know, I don't I don't see him as any more threatening than turn. All do. You know, I have most respect for that fight as I do this one. This just happened to have a bigger name behind it. He's also name and wake ac- to the game. So for me, this is like the perfect step up in competition for my career to catapult me into the next limelight. The next level of, you know, just competitive fear and talk and say, I apologize. It's the main event of the ESPN prelims the main event, of course, it's on the T J pseudo card, but it's still a big spot to be in. I mean because cowboy normal doesn't fight on the prelims. No, I so the way that that same interview referring to him may junkie the way they laid it out, which I'm hoping is the case, we're actually I'm we're on actually SPN, and then the pay per view is kind of like an ESPN. Plus is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's fucking brilliant. I wanna be happier about that. And I think it's just again as a testament that the shares the same vision idea of you know, me being the future of this as Asian not just a division. Well, you are ten in one. I mean, you're you're obviously, I mean this'll be third fight in in the US. The first fight you had against dare us. I have to ask you about the opening of like you came out like you're about to touch loves through a beautiful kick to the body. Now was that intentionally just to try to relax him for a second. Or did you change your mind as it was happening? No. And I'm really my back in the talk touches their backhand. I was I was just framing. Yeah. Yeah. So it was more of a range depth shot. I've been planning the entire week that I need to disrupt cadences aggressively as possible 'cause they're uses a slow stalker. You know, he likes to he likes to build momentum. And then corner his opponent and keep them caged. And then when he feeds off that and gets his his his confidence, and aggression, you know, based on based on his opponent dwindling. I guess the cage. So for me I wanted to disrupt all that immediately. And I thought putting a foot hardwood? What helps so? Okay. Yeah. The idea was to charge as fast as I could being the bunch and then kind of project the next the next shots to follow. So once once I landed that, and then I saw that overhead of the hook. I'm merely new you know, you and I had to completely different speeds. And so it was only a matter of time before I caught that hand you gotta tough wrap on that. Because Rogan when we saw it just now, wait a second. And he go to and then we watched it again. In Rogan, call to the same way. All we faked the touch so it did look. But then when you look at it, you did have your arms out. It's not like you had your hand up palm towards him to go within are used to punch clubs. I think he went to was met with a foot in the fucking face. Pander that shit. You know, I can't tell you what he was thinking. But my intent was never to the pool like quick one over his head. I just I just try to line them up. It was like I haven't those are my scopes, I was nearing him in. And then I shot a shot. Now cowboy Cowboys a huge name. I mean is the names like this the McGregor the the DA's, and and then like right on like Neath that I'm gonna say that a little bit mcgregor's up there. But I mean Cowboys right there. He's huge. He's huge in the UFC, people know who cowboy Surani is this would be a huge feather in your cap. And this would put you on the map, it don't get me wrong. Just came over to tough guys on. Fortunately, not a lot of guys know those guys besides the people that are like the die hards like us. We know those guys are the average fans all I know that cowboy guys wacky or whatever they they like him they they know him. So I mean how. That for the motivation for his any different each fight is the biggest fight of your life. But this is feeling different. Finding a guy with this recognition marriage, exciting thrilling, there's nothing more to it. You know, people keep asking me about about the about the name. And I keep saying I don't give a shit about his name or the promotion, the venue the city. No disrespect, of course, New York and Brooklyn the credible. But I mean, like, I'm not I'm not building this up in my mind like that. I don't pay attention these guys. I don't I don't watch a lot of footage in my spare time, I don't watch ten fights in my spare time there's a few guys I like to watch and study and any late, and I pay attention my own growth. But if I spent all this time doing on the patch, I've already accomplished shit. He's accomplished. And there would be no space for me to focus on the future. So Cowboys cowboy and I separate that entirely from whatever like image is built up or or you know, the media behind it or all that other shit. You still just a poor sold out STAN across from me in my cage. And so. I'm not worried about I'm not worried about anything that that his title brings to the table. And at the end the day should just another man. Sure. Sure. I think Cowboys just the the range of fighters that he's fought and just little level of experience and the level of competition. He's faced would you say that this is the guy who's probably faced the toughest it has he faced the better fighters of all the guy's face before. Cowboys is is the most dangerous forty five. So yeah, pretty good array of a folks scrap with say, he's probably the most. Well, he's coming. He's coming back though. I mean, he was five and four a welter weight and he's coming back down, and maybe know mentioning fighting Connor maybe if he ever did that he wants to be accustomed to fighting lightweight again. But I wonder if he's coming down because he just was not not enjoying being hit by guys that size will this way cut at this point have any kind of an effect on because you're you're obviously such a fast fighter in your move soil. You know? I don't know it seems like he's he's almost temperamental in his decisions. You know? And he's always looking for for an escape, it seems you know, things aren't going well from if I let me run a seventy things are going. Well, it seventy on me when get back to fifty five, and I guess things we're going to be finished that big fight Perry. But he's always looking for something else. And against me looking guy with a hundred percent of his focus on one thing in one mission one of one purpose, and I'll be damned if I got a guy who put sixty percent, seventy whatever the hell, it is and the one splits his time because he's seeking out. Let's try to comfort him. We'll hold a candle to to my undivided attention. Okay. You know way so season Cowboys putting sixty percent into basically. And you're saying you're putting a hundred percent. Is a day to day ritual of my life. Yes, I'm sure he put all ensure he's putting plenty of attention to this camp needs to. But I I don't have kids. I don't have a wife anything else. So I have my gym and I'm an eager student. I'm not going down the first one to class every day shirt shit the last and when I get tired of being in the gym, I train outside you know. That's how I love myself. And so I I don't I don't have the distractions that I'll need them. He's twenty six years old Jimmy. Yeah. He's got that going form, and your endurance will tell you. I know you weren't too happy. You said that you weren't happy with your last performance, which was a great. It was victory. With a mercy. And I'll tell you that dude. He's he's no he's no punk. I'm not crazy about his mustache like Jimmy said earlier. I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan of. Dangerous. I'd say, yeah, you're saying some films of the nineteen seventies. Baseman shot. He probably start in. But. Be honest Alexander. When you got caught in that Comores that you say, listen, I'm not getting to that mustache. I'm not did that come out at all. The first three things around him. My mom. Bearing not finish my second five. There's no fucking where I'll tell you some great scrambles in that in that match. And you know, if you've seen I'm sure you have Cowboys lists fight with his arm bar on Mike Perry. That was really a my cowboy did what we supposed to do. But as far as posture and. Jujitsu wise, he kinda handed him that home. Yeah, I'm a philanthropist. I'm not a fucking donating to the Red Cross, and the cage that was a that was a handout, I'm not I'm not I'm not impressed by that not even in the sinus. Mike gave him that the scrambles on the ground were like the least professional scraps of shit. I'd seen in the the nothing about that was like oh an overwhelming performance. I mean, just check it two or three times and you'll start to break down. It's not he's got a tip your hat. He's got a point with that on lock. It was beautiful. I mean cowboy did what you're supposed to do. But he did he did what you're supposed to. Yeah. But, but the you know that was my Perry's bad for sure. Yeah. My president here. You know, you don't wanna fuck interest thought clubbing cow somebody dangerous guards by the neck. And look the punch me in the face. It's not the best right? Jimmy, right taking you're putting your head down. It's true. And you raise you raise in Saint Louis, what kind of neighborhood did you grow up in was it was like a sub ever say Louis area. Fine. Every everybody just takes like, a a home base. For me say Saint Louis is actually I was born in Saint Louis. I'm moving I was three and I grew up in this little town called canton, Georgia and for elementary school, George super white black. And then then I moved to San Antonio in San Antonio, Texas in middle school and all the time. I was like holy shit. That's where all the Brown people when my pay over here. And so I spent majority of my life in Texas. What nationality are you? I'm half Mexican half life. Oh, you are. Okay. So why did you move so much that you dad military parents military? My won't and Lewis Georgia. Parents split when I was three. So I moved over there. And then when my mom died when I was ten I moved over to Texas with my dad, all okay. And then you got involved obviously in mixed martial arts when when you were there, what got you involved in it. I just started wrestling. So my dad Russell through high school, and maybe a little before, but he rests the rice school and me being we come from like a series of short jeans. And so I I grew up playing basketball back home. And then I kinda realized I was just too short and I sucked. And so we thank God. Let me in, you know, more suitable sports. So wrestling was great because also like a terrible lay bloomer probably Peabody details like twenty three and so power pound needs something to my vantage. And so I got into wrestling weighing ninety eight pounds freshman year and just kept at it. And that was probably the most testing terrifying. Years of my life though, like freshman sophomore year of having to getting wrestling and just take on all the qualities of that sport livers, you know, I I grew up wrestling relatively felt like that was my entire life there for about six years, and then ended up not doing it in college and then found found jitsu Moi tie. And then found my head coach I've been listening to the beginning Jason guarantee that'll haunt academy. And and the rest of kinda history just sort of you're sort of picked up for fun wrestling courses like that phenomenal base. I guess you get through an entire immature career and. Part of the way into professional one to badge start scrapping with those guys. And it was kinda like all right? Maybe go in and try amateur bout. There's this TV show and south Texas for amateurs, I did. And then got my first bout did that enough? And then it was like, okay. I mean, we go ahead and do professional someone professional, and then you know, kind of kept on that way. And you've talked to about really like loving TJ dillashaw, we're extra talking TJ and a little while while I mean, he is really one of my favorite guys to watch. What was it about him that kind of resonated? Yeah. So I and I do I do love TJ dillashaw, but I don't blow his dick like core may have me. Viewing whenever he like pulled out shit out of his ass. He was saying that I find out like Jesus Christ got a I got like a thanks you area. Dillashaw my closet or something. I got like a kind of starburst monument of him as built up. You don't worship them like with with. I don't wear those got crazy respectful, and I think he's one of the greatest ever. But. Yeah. Just a just just a guy I like to like to look up to. But I think he's awesome. So his style men. So I like I said I don't follow around. I don't just watch. You see all the time. I do bit more now. But I never just like spend weekends just catching all the fights every weekend. But there are people that I'd like strive to emulate GOP was a big one dominant. Crews are washed a lot TJ dillashaw was kinda like when the next guy's in line. And when I watched him fight Hinton Barral for that first time when he was I think he's like twelve and one and hidden Barral was or maybe like twelve in two or something in Barral was like thirty two and one and he just had to get the call to get pulled up last minute, and he's a super underdog. And when I wash them go out there and put that display on did, I shed a fucking tear. It was the most like magnificent thing I've ever seen. And it wasn't just a skill is the fact that he rose that occasion. And put on the way he did. I mean that was like. Beyond glorious and like magnifying, but a person could do so ever since. Like, I gotta watch this do. So then I like started, you know, going through the archives dillashaw and just just really get into. And then I started mixing my style up like him. How for not point I start really switching stances. And so he was the guy you kind of got me to start switching stances heavily. And then I got his go my legs. I did my right and started of picking up some of those moves by still mixed in like kind of a little GSP. And then of course, you know, you guys like the Greg from the scene, and that's like holy fuck. That's a whole nother style right there. And so I started trying to pick up McGregor style movement characteristics, rather? And then you get even guys like fucking could even their pressure on the ground. And I just a little things the way I do on the cage to defend him one day. And then also just kind of a little bit more fish in my grip. So I'm I'm very respectful, these guys games, you know. And certainly not a buff thinking that like I've got all the answers because these guys paid the way for a reason so guys crews like really really hard guys to train for or hard guys to figure. Out there. You know, that's a good guy to kind of want to at least learn something from because he seems like a very very hard guy to prepare because he strikes in every way, and he's extremely hard to figure extreme more than anything. I wanted to be unorthodox. I wanted to be unique and unorthodox. And so I put my own flavor on on their on their foundations. You did. Well, then we're really fun fighter to watch. And they have a lot of faith and you put in you up against cowboy. And again, if it's the main event of the prelims, they know people are gonna be watching that fight. That's always a good fight. And cavalry never fights down there. So you're his first fight back lightweight in a long time. So let's see how he handles that. That's a fifteen pound cut from what he's having to use to. It's not typical ten pound drop. So we'll see if that affects or cardio at all try this time. I heard you against me last time partner who I bet against you. That's what I heard all. You know what dude? I wasn't familiar. You had one fight with door news rush. Rush. Right. And you start them. But there wasn't a lot to really base it on. And I I seen a little bit more tape on mercy. But I'll tell you, man. I'm I'm put me on the spot. I'll be on. I'm I think about this. I'm gonna think about this, Alex. And listen, I hold you very if it was just how exander you tell him. What's that? If you're gonna just take out. I'm on the fence. Not going to be on the fence. I'm on the fence right now. But I'm gonna think about this because I was just watching both fights before we called, you gotta think about eighty gotta really think about it. But I do listen, it's exciting and Alana is going to be on it and. Listen, you're gonna listen this episode end of it. You'll have this. You'll find out what's. It's very tough to picky. Cowboy too though because he just he he wins a lot of people don't expect them to win. And then he won't look as good for a fight because he fights every two weeks. So a couple of fights. He'll look like, oh, no. He's lost two straight. And then he just starts winning again. He's a really really hard gotta best as well. But you sound like a smart for your age to you're my first fight at twenty six. I mean, you sound very mature eleven fights. Yeah. This is a listen. I was in this is exciting. And you know, what I say you are also one of my one of my finest heroes too. And Alexander, I'm only. Upset upset get my card. Arouse the young loud at one point in my life. So. And you're gonna be around for a long time. You are man. I'll tell you. You're funny. You got your exciting to watch and your youngest. How you got the world by the nuts? Alexander all best, man. Good talking to you, man. Thanks. He's he's a fun kid. He's great man got a good personality too. And people will want like anyone who can just do interviews. Like that is just fun. He has opinions people are gonna wanna talk to him. So people are gonna get to know you very quickly. I love you or hate your some people like people love or hate TJ. Now, I know cruise give it there's nothing put on about this. Know and not for nothing when he was gonna fight. Mercy. Mercy had had a few fights in that took out. I don't remember it. It's funny though. I would never remember that. Because we do so many picks. Yeah. I I didn't know we were talking today. I didn't know that I picked against them. But it's hard to tell you first of all, very, he sees smart. He's not he's smart with his fight. I q for twenty six. Sounds sounds up there. Like, you know what? I mean. He's not just a dumb kid. Yeah. No. Like this. When I was bringing up the the Mike Perry fight. He knew that was a gimme like like you. Don't like, I'm sure my pairing. Now is is it himself in the head with literally like a caveman. Very I like Perry. I do like these Mike ferry. He's great for the sport. But he's gonna learn from that. But that's that comes on the proper posture. Jimmy. Yeah, you know, you don't wanna be a table in a an inside in somebody's going. You know, what I mean, if you're a table above somebody, you take away of armor that table. It's gonna fall you want to be like a tree Jimmy posture. I don't even got to be looking down up has go look through the roof. He met the ceiling. He's Brazilian moves a ceiling Saint place, but he met he was he said looked at a roof. I didn't know what the fuck then. I get it ends. Oh, he was looking at. His back in the nineties. What are we got Alexsandr very? A lot. I love cowboy to it's really really hard for me to choose against Cal. And I think you're going to have a problem because cowboy potentially is coming in next Wednesday's when we do our pick. So you're going to be in a weird position. I pick right. The front of the guy. Cowboy to. I'm listen is the thing every time I pick against cowboy the guy. I maybe we should want me to pick against them. I picked Perry over them Perry was coming looking like a the raging bull getting ready for that. If radio tattoos on his face. Haircut like a peacock, whatever. And this crazy Instagram's Mike I to very much. I like that kid is good. There's Alexander personality. What was what was kicking parties saying that was great nobody saying I'm not blowing teach blown dick like? I like way he has been deployed, dick. And what what did was he saying that he was just trying to I don't know late. I guess he was saying that he really idolized or looked up to TJ he might have overstated Alexander's enjoyment of TJ getting I'm sure specs TJ. Like, you said he likes him, but he doesn't necessarily hero worship him. Christopher someone gets hit on a fucking bike crossing the street how they build a monument to them on the highway like all of a sudden, you'll see a fucking white bicycle with a bunch of flowers on it and candle. He saying he doesn't do that for TJ leagues. I him. I didn't know what these see said to make him games really saying that he was guessing that that root beer do. You are going to go to repair. Sure. Yeah. I like root beer. Yeah. You wanna just demand to you too? Nice of like a ten year old alignment. Well, this is the Zevia this is that soda that. Jimmy. Yeah. I look good. Yeah. Yeah. You do. You do. Our discussing at before you walk. Yeah. I know. But Jimmy going under the knife. Tomorrow told you yes, you are getting up they taking my sack out Jimmy. Yep. Of my knee. I understand I understand if it was your fucking balls. You'd be a lot less calm. I know Jimmy look at look at me. It is bosom. It is a beaker everytime. I know it's probably up today. Now, it's big. But I got to take care of that you, but what's really a bitch. Is that my left leg? Just make me walk weird. So I mean, I think by March I'll be back to rowing hard. Okay. Right. Yeah. I'm sure maybe a month. I might get driven in next week. We'll figure that out. I mean, not just not interesting. But now. Listen to me, those talk about some latest news. Yeah. Do we want to get into the Kobe Covington stuff? Jimmy. We were talking. I would like to because you know, even though Colby doesn't like me. I gotta say I've been pretty adamant about thinking he deserved a shot against Woodley. Because he did. He was the interim champion, and I don't know why. But he saying he was basically ready to fight. And the only time he wasn't ready to fight was on six weeks notice when he was already scheduled for sinus surgery, but he said he was leaking blood and mucus sinus surgery. Like, I don't think that's just it's not like he was getting a nose job to look pretty. I think it was probably a breathing issue for him. And you know, again, you gotta be able to fuck him breathe when you're fighting. So as somebody with sinus trouble, if you'd let me digress for fifteen or twenty minutes. Don't do this. I received in the mail. I hear the thing that Phoenix recommended. But I'd also looked what's it called the Nevada. I got one and I've been blown out my nose with it. And it's not bad. I. I have a deviated septum sit down folks, it's gonna be a long one. I have a DVD. So what happens is this thing? Fucking sucks. It put suction your nose and fucking forces like saltwater throughout the other side. So it's it helps you breathe a lot. But it's not the same as getting the surgery. So if Cody had to do that, I get it unless he was make cold sorry called because I always say, but if we had to do that, I get it. I mean, not breathing man had to cancel a fight one time choline event. Shevchenko couldn't bet though why did they? He's by listen. I wanna I wanna see Comoro. Anyway, I wanna see either one of these dudes either one I'm surprised that they went with that only. 'cause you you would think that would the would Koby in the character is it'd be a bigger fight. Yeah. I mean, listen Comorros is very dangerous. Yes. He is. You know? But it is it is I don't I don't know you were gonna say befuddled. I'm befuddled by this. Yeah. We'll part of it. Also, though is when you know, tyrants, the champ, that's the thing. So when tyrants ready that's kind of when the number one contender has to be ready to fight tire ready to fight in February. I understand Kobe was having surgery so that, but that fact. You know what I mean? It's like when tyrants ready to fight. He's had surgery on his thumb now he's gonna be ready to fight in March. Yeah. Somebody's got to be ready to find and tyrant saying that he is happy to fight Kamara in March. And then he'd like to turn it around and fight Colby in June gossip what are they saying man called the human? He's saying he was really going in hard on Dana said that he said, I'm gonna read this now Dana as the boss knows. These are not my thoughts. I don't really have a relationship with Dana white said, Matt Sarah, and I don't give a shit about Olga. He's cashing out. He's made all the money off the fans all the fans built whenever you said. A lot of stuff. He goes. Hey, he's keeping Lorenzo he said he was just Lorenzo's little check. Boy, he goes, he's a piece of shit person. There's no morals and he's kind of challenging him. He's going I'm daring. He goes you said you don't allow I'm tested, you motherfucker. Let's see how big your balls are released me bitch. Now, again, daynuss pretty immune to show talking from fighters. Dana understands that because first of all Dana will talk shit about any fighter when he feels it's necessary. And he almost Dana pretty. He doesn't seem to get this stuff because he knows it's you know, somebody pissed off right and do his fight. And he's not a little check. Boy, like check boy, probably like go sign these checks her houseboys almost eager house. Don't call me that what Chris said it. So so anyway, so what did he say? What did who say? So that. Yeah. I mean Kobe was on all day. Dana coming on our show. I you know, what I didn't even ask don't don't think. We'll probably we could we could save you to talk to us. Jim. I don't care if he does not. But why don't we? But you know, what? In fairness, though, you saying this all along you you've said that you'd like to see him get the next shot. I have even after he gave me a even after he bad mouth. My good name risk to lawsuit. I have said that he deserves the next shot at Tyronn. Because again, I love camario. I like come on better than call be. I know him better, and I like him better. But I think Koby deserves that shop because when they asked him to step up he beat RDA very, very handily. I mean so tomorrow, but you know, Kobe did I and I think that shot should go to him. Because again, whoever wins that fight Kamara against either. One of those guys as the champion is a great fight. Sure. Yeah. And but but by the same token, whoever wins, the the Woodley Kamara find then you can sell that next. When it gets cold one hundred percent, that's too. And again, I think for wonderboy it's much better. If obviously anybody's champion but tiring because he's already fought him twice. And if he wants to another shot at the title, which I'm sure he does now him who's he talking about fighting who gonna come up from one hundred five. Wonder boy, that's a that's a very bold move by Pettus to come up fifteen pounds and fight someone as difficult as Thompson. Yeah. For sure. But you're absolutely right. But I think that that if he's going to do it wonder boys a good opponent for him because you know, that's not gonna go to the ground. That's not really what he's trying to do. He they can both stand. Yeah. Sure. If they're striking and that'd be a really interesting now and pets a tough time not tough time. But it's it's a it's a steep cut for him to get the one fifty five anyway. So I'm sure it's not that crazy rooms of seventy. Yeah. That'd be I mean, I'd pay to watch that fight. You know, what I mean, we don't have to we don't I wouldn't stand for ticket. Hey, by the way for people that are this weekend. So this on ESPN ESPN, plus you can go to all the UFC like social media channels. They'll be posts on how to subscribe to ESPN. Plus, we're just five dollars a month. That's completely worth to do it. And then you can find local listings for ESPN, which the prelims are under the plug their true. I watch a lot not just my old fights that they can watch on the UC five thousand percent. This is different this PM plus not five as oh. Is it something about the UFC fight flip -pez? Now. I've said if you go to like, the UFC social media channels on Twitter, Instagram, whatever there's gonna be posts about how to sign up reappear seven a rough day other day why? Doesn't matter. But I so I watched the UC pass why a rough day at your washed my Frank Trigg fight. That's why you're having a rough day. Now having a rough day. So I watched the use. I wash my Frank Trigg fight. Maybe feel better it does. Right day of one that fight. He did wanna hear what my day that wires doesn't matter. I knew I felt better though. 'cause I watch like Frank Trigg fight. Did you rough day after I won that fight? Listen to me. I I heard that. There was a erection problems. Days. Rough. Just tell them what actually car payment late fire. Can I say I'm lying to Jimmy? I didn't have a rough day. I just wanted to bring up my Frank Trigg fight on on UFC. Okay. Such fight Jimmy. Thank you had him kissing the canvas did you? Yeah. There's a fight. I want to talk about that got announced that I'm a pretty excited about let's talk about. I think I know what let's easy over there machine gun Kelly. Let's talk about it. I listen, Derek. We hold on. I mean, listen people get knots, but. Now every time that are used this thing. Now, I'm not afraid to use it because I'm not very what people think if I'm using it too much every time I use it. He's going to go. There you go. It's using the perfect world. Yeah. It's a good amount to you. Gotta you gotta lead up. I mean, I was just gonna use it. But then it's like, it's okay have fun. Have that you don't like Krispies. Always usually looking at you like, okay. Like, you're an eager houseboy with a toy. Sure. Hit the. I'm not gonna do it again to read the fight. Derek Lewis the Black Beast verse. Julia now. Junior in a why do you? To those those. That's a great chain. DS? I daren't Louis the blood beast. Wow. That was right March ninth which which. What you could. Which which? Richard. What's? Kansas. I'm going going fucking have really interesting fight deals on the ground. T- match that's gonna be we're talking to Lewis on Monday. Why old man, what do you think about that shit JD as obviously has the cardio advantage the boxing vantage? I mean Louis I mean JD asking kick to be Lewis is actually better with his legs. And people think he's going to be throwing more kicks than than people would expect them to do for big, dude. And I'm sure he's be at least there's hard if not harder that's really tough to go against junior on that one. And especially after he's. Two. He's accurate, man. Accurate, and he's looking really tough foam lately. Man Louis coming off that second round with a second round loss to to DC. Yeah. That was a tough loss styles make fights, man. You know what? I mean, you know, junior took a few shots from title. It wasn't like he got through that totally clean or I don't know. I mean was I remember it was right junior finished him or something what they trying to punch up from mount or my Adam. That's not good. It's not a good sign of somebody's ju jitsu skill guys. Oh, secular. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That that's rough though. Yeah. Jimmy, it is you know after pay. Do you have the page breaks? Good timing because I got a p to all right. You go first. We are back one thing. We should mention too much has not been officially seven the blue. But rose will defend her belt against Jessica on drudge those according to Dana white who is yes, he is an employee of the of C I understand who she is ranked number one over you ought to JJ who's been dropped down to number two. I guess after three straight losses now. Yes. The two rows. And then she just lost Valentina. But that was up close, obviously. But he is still a loss. And you wonder what does that do to join his psyche? If anything she was twelve am I wrong with twelve now, she's twelve and three. Yeah. I can check. I think you're right unless you had an loss earlier in her career now she was undefeated undefeated. And I wonder what these losses due because that first one was such a devastating loss. First round tap out due to strikes and the second one was very good. She said she was better trained, and she the way cut wasn't as bad. And they went the distance that you lost. She clearly lost as she clearly lost the sheets. She won the second one. Well, she might be somebody thought that are Lobski one twenty seven fucking thirty twenty seven over Walt Harris, she was fourteen and then she lost a rose twice. Then we forgot she BT Chautauqua is and then she lost three of four. But okay. Okay. So she did come back and have a win after did you teasha by decision? That was decision. Yes. She's not not anybody out. And I think that for fighters who are always winning or losing by decision at adds a lot around. Oh, for sure I mean, her knockouts came earlier. Against Jessica Panay, Carla spars owner I fight, but they were volume knockouts. You know, I it wasn't like she was just one punch knocking people out that size. It's a little tougher. But that's what's interesting about Jessica on drums who who has ridiculous power at one hundred fifteen pounds. She just knocked out the Carolina. What's what's her record? Let's double check. The. She is nineteen and six one three straight clogging daily, teasha tours and caroliina she knocked out with. Pretty devastating fashion. And what Jimmy exactly who do you think Amanda fights next? Oh, man, put up the where where am I I'm guessing calendar if she's hoping is defeat I wanna say she's nine an hour. My completely often which division we're talking about. Now now that she's a chill bantamweight. Now. She's a chance there's really nobody else's featherweight and the beating was so bad. You can't justify a rematch yet with looking right here. You had it on the road one. No, no. I just had I had scroll down. So you could see the rest of the she'd never fought Holly amend, Holly. She hasn't right? No. That could be that. That's number two. Germain matched up to Aspen lad, those. She has coming up. She's not Holly take again. That's an interesting holiday take because she's going down to fighting number seven. But why not hold out for cancer gun is already? On their Nghien. Megan she counted as Richie she's not a bantam, she fed away. So she's a feather weight. So we don't have the featherweight. There is no why is cat who what what the despite? It can't just fought up at feather. Yeah. But there are there isn't a featherweight rankings yet because the division hasn't been filled out or whatever this such. Alright just threw me off with let me see here. What's going to happen? And for MandA not a lot of people. I mean, Holly home is definitely that styles make fights. That's an interesting fight. Because you know, she would you know, I I mean, she's very skilled standing, and she's more of the matadors he's inches out. Just got the kicks. I mean, I, you know, I mean, she's got all that boxing experience. So she might not be there to get hit nothing that she got she took shots for much Jemaine mandatory. Yep. Well, engine means in that mix. He's writing one. Yeah. So what is that Keller's record by the while she is tenant attended? Okay. And she out for a long term. I don't think I'm reading here. She was supposed to fight on the twenty second of September. But she pulled out due to a knee injury. Like in August of. So I I would assume she. Four months ago. She's probably getting ready to fight again. Okay. Does she have anybody lined up and has she fought Holly outta hollies? Esta has she fought against you can't fight your main because that someone's gonna fight Amanda. Right. Well, I mean like like you're saying I mean Holly is definitely an interesting matchup against Amanda. But she's already matched up. Can't Lavera could be in the mix germane to renovated probably guy beat random over that just because calendar hasn't fought and the one that you say earlier we talked about dean Thomas he was on. Joe Rogan's podcast one. Is he going to be in here? He'll be on Thursdays show next week so Wednesday for. Cowboy come in. I think how I mean still trying to lock it down a particular time, but he would be on Thursday shows. Well, so he becoming almost so he becoming the same day as all right? Why? No more than Marya here usually comes in with a posse though. So does have some chance, you know? Don't you worry? We'll he'll say, hey, listen, man. My buddy Deane Tom is coming to town. I think every time I'm in charge cowboy how much he would love it. And how much I hate it. Herbal. It's like bad tire bills on a flight. I had the worst turbulence ever come back from Disney with my old, you up a little all you said that was it was it like it was bad dropping and. Yeah, it was like yo where the kids scared. No, they were, you know, looking at like a ride would thing. My wife was a little bug, but it was wrong. Yeah. It was bad. I don't usually I've I've been on a lot of planes, and is probably one of the worst have out everybody the whole night or just coming in everybody got quiet, and I was on the way back coming home. How how long how long was the turbulent? I listen on YouTube on like it was like twenty five minutes. I go on YouTube and turbulence videos, by the way, was the entire that house that it's fun. People scream. Yeah. It was socially twenty-five, thirty minutes when I was going into my gig in Seattle, I had to fly, you know, they come through Portland or whatever and an hour before like we're going to have the flight attendant sit seal like you have an hour of fucking bad Pacific northwest turbulence that was horrible to planes tilting. Yeah. But I've also saw diagram once on the outside of somebody drew a diagram didn't computer animation. This what you feel inside what it's just jostling shaking. And this is what it looks like outside and the planes hardly moving little mile ticks because they like the planes in sitting still it's actually going really fast. So it's just kind of skipping over things. But it's not falling. Don't get worry Jimmy about little turbulence. I don't like it. I watch those videos and Fokin driving everywhere when they realize it's fine because everybody's landed. Yeah. Well, right. I mean, if it's. Washes up crash fresh videos. No one ever crashes because his don't Braley some turbulence before the crash. You didn't see the crash? All right. Listen, this is a fucking tomorrow. Do you really Phoenix on this Phoenix and catch tonight? Actually, I'm going to be in Copperhead blues and then tomorrow friends. Saturday's the stand up live. Yeah. Jimmy in Phoenix. Club out their new material. What are you going to hours? Not what I had on Netflix show. So I'm just kind of is is trying to do stuff so much fun. You read it on a daily just daily. I just try stuff on stage. Yeah. Of course, the art Kelly documentary, you gotta talk about whatever's wife is why my wife is just just watching that. And just wants the just smash that dude on a smack that guy to admittedly. I'm a new fan, but he's terrible person. It's amazing guys out walking around. It's he's a terrible fucking person. You know, Jimmy, what is the case? That's brought up in that documentary. 'cause there's a lot of stuff read about them. He's besides the -pedia, which we all saw all these artists that worked with him after knew that he did that. And they knew how young girl was. Is all you know, the whole idea of the cult. He had these women and as an adult you gotta make decision. But when you see the way treats these women they had buckets in the rooms to use bathrooms. I mean, it was really fucking horrible. It's crazy piece of shit. But that's just so negative. Let's look at some positive stuff. Jimmy what he wants about my five one other of the. What are the road? You have gossip a rumors or news. We have Christopher Anthony Smith was talking about his potential UFC two thirty five title shot against John Jones. I say potential because John still has to be licensed by Nevada State Athletic commission. But that's the fight. They're trying to put together he says, I think it's goddamn mazing. All these people are suing that if me and John Jones fight he's gonna get me out of there in one round. He doesn't hit any harder than whose demure and Hector Lombard. He's not any better of a wrestler for the most part of guys that I fought and he's not any better jitsu guy than all the guys. I fought he puts together better than anyone that's in the game right now. But he doesn't. Wow, me anywhere, especially the fight that just had. I wasn't impressed. And I don't mean it wasn't a fantastic performance. Because it was but I didn't watch the fight and thing I couldn't handle that. I saw guy that has holes that can be exploited as long as you attack it in the right way. What's he gonna say? Well, but it's just a killer something that he was on the the UFC tonight as a guest analyst. And he was like, what are you? What are you talking to me? John Jones, like eight don't use this as a platform to. This is my moment. Type of thing. Don't be using this as a platform to better your career type. I think something like that, you know. Show after two thirty to play the clip Chris. All right. All right. You had it ready? No, no. All right. Who said it to him? But it is. Well, John Jones entities. Who me? He's like, he's a nice guy. I don't think he was. I think he was just, you know, maybe a little nervous of being an analyst and those guys coming out of what the funk, but hey, man, I wanna see that fight. I watched that fight. I watched the fight tomorrow. I would too. I mean, he's a well rounded guy, he's fighting better. Now that he's up this week Klis and. You know, listen, this is the sport of upsets, he's got a skill set on them very much on Jones. Where do you think the problem is if you're John Jones, what do you got power coming out? And but like what what's the what is the thing that have these Smith is going to do to put John in trouble over the course of that fight if you had to well, I think it would. It would have to be on his feet. I can't see him taking him down and having his way with him. Because I think his his grappling is too strong. I could see I could see John Jones, you know, using his his wrestling than than his ground game from here on out, right hurting, a lot of people, Iran. I mean, I think that's the why take a chance when this guy's in this, you know, he's swinging with a lot of dangerous guys and he's battling. And you know, he's gonna nickname Wyan heart. I mean, you don't get that by not being a fucking. Plus it you get that writing a chicken liver. Correct. Chivvy? You know when John was out for a while. I think it was when he got suspended the first time, whatever was he I interviewed and he was talking about he was doing a lot of ju jitsu and one of his goals was to never be punched. Again, he wanted to get to the point where he was so good at his grappling gypsy that nobody could ever land another punch on him. And it's interesting you're saying that like, I think you're right. I think the wrestling and the the grappling is going to become a bigger part of his career as he goes forward. I mean heating smoke. I mean, he did. I mean, he handled the fight everywhere. It was but he really smoked you know, his Guston on the floor. I mean smoke them. They got the floor on that list when settled twenty seconds. So, you know, standing up it was still, you know, he might hurt his leg, and it will go and he's having his way. But it's not like he was put it autumn. And he got on top. It's just a matter of not even minutes. I mean, he's he's advances position and was dangerous. All how so listen, man. I think. What we're going to see a lot of his face taking place. Now. You know what? I mean. Yeah. For sure how can we wanna call TJ? It's you know, what? Let's call right now, we should call. I should call and people dig that, you know, I handled that room and all I can say is people. Listen. Amen. Matt handles it. How not handling I don't matter. I'm just I'm just a human being man. You know, I try to get time with Jimmy so much cereal. And I get upset. It's not his fault. I think he's manager. She talked to or what's his name. Who's the new guy Kristal Kristof night think it was just a miscommunication? My well, then you know, that means it's Krista produces full. He's let's just throw it got TJ right here. TJ? Hey, buddy, you're talking to Jim and Matt from UFC, unfiltered, TJ your first of all you guys a big appalled that don't save. Like, I was told I guess last week does doing an interview and even though by forgot practice times change, and I messed up. So I was seriously running in the door for practice late and I hate being late. So no from we'll listen, it's not like you out of a fight to get ready for anything. You know what I mean? I want to apologize. I've been getting attacked by all your fans because after hung up. I'm like, oh, boo. TJ freaking out and say like that. But I would have said worse. I was being I was I was being a little bit. You know, what the word is that I would use and you wouldn't 'cause you're too classy. I was being a little bitty. But TJ listen to me, man. Understandable. I it's not your fault kid. We we really we're big fans man, we really all. Why can't handle it? Very well Jimmy professional Christopher do, sir. And I'm not listen. I'm just not a professional, but I am a fan of your fighting. Fire fighters because we're emotional. It is true. It is true. And I can't control it. It's true. And and how is the camp going what I do. I did say the other day that I do enjoy watching on Instagram. Whether it's the Wayne's or your Instagram, you all the techniques, you guys are doing just the work and the and then you do the little bow afterwards. The little bro hug in bow. Putting out is the Wayne's mind is is very unique. How does he always it seems like he always keeps it fresh? Right. It doesn't turn it off. He's addicted to me better as insults. Have just guiding people through this journey the cranial actually recall martial-arts, but. Night of him watching tape and took link I should be doing maybe watching my sparring or just a game planning or told me what train special train with you knows Dwayne his it. He tried to get me trim with other like boxing coaches with parole for now Palm Springs with with a camp out there. And and just he wants me to bride Mahr broaden, my horizon, knowledge, we other coaches, you find a lot of coaches that they kinda wanna keep your shelter and hold you in and not let you travel in terms of someone else 'cause they're afraid, but do I ever very close connection, man? And this when nothing magic, and you are finally getting this fight that you have been asking for for a long time, not with the fighter you've been asking. I mean, you you were asking for Dimitrius for a long time. And at one point Limbaugh was gonna happen. And how did you feel when you found out? He was traded for Ben aspirin. No little little unfortunate to to have a guy of that caliber leave our organization, you know, 'cause the US's best organization the best of promoting. It's the it's the who's who fighting. But you know, it sounds like you made a great decision for his family and his finance finances. And I'm sure he'll be very happy. I know about humans coach has a great connection with thinking might be part owner matchmaker. Whatever it may be. So I think it'd be very good for him. But, you know, little little sucky because we love to see him into UC because we're the best. Do you think he dropped the ball with that? I was very excited when you guys we're gonna fight. And I know we're sick of talking about this. I don't wanna I don't wanna bring up old share. But but it's just I was so on I heard that. And I'm like, yo that's a fight. I mean, a lot of people could be invested in because that was you going down, and especially with your performances and and. And and just Dimitrius looking just indestructible. And then when he didn't take that fight. It was just such a it was just I was so down. I'm sure as of you were as you were. Yeah. He definitely dropped the ball out have been the biggest fight for his career and trying to his name. But unfortunately, choose a little more scared about losing his legacy. And then then then take a pseudo theories enough and let him come on in push the pace on her. You know, but. We live in there. And now, I get to beat up pseudo. Instead now you had commented to that. They were paying you to kind of go down, and whatever you said about the flyweight division. Do you think they are actually gearing up to get rid of that? I do I do I do think that I mean getting rid of the meteors Johnson. You know, you're the best fighter of the of the division. The guy it's been making statements down there. And you're trading him. They cut fighters been they've only lost. Once I think that it's a way of Wendling it out if on the channels way cost delays, why not make them all come to thirty five which we have a national pact way class. How do you? How is your wake-up because you had put a video? I'm sure you saw that some of the fans were saying, oh, we looked tired. Even though you just said good morning, which meant you probably just woke up was the first thing. I did was I woke up when you do your your hormone tests and your blood tests, you have to do it is weight go you can't eat or drink anything ever gone. Dr do your hormones. You have to be first thing in the morning. So, you know, seven o'clock in the morning, you wake up rubbing, my eyes video, you know. But I don't mind people thinking that the way cuts hard because it's been I mean, obviously. It's not gonna be easy. That's gonna be a lot of work, but it hasn't been hard. And that's because I have the coach I have and I'm professional land. I'm actually waking up right now closer to wait. Then I would be at one thirty five waking up this far out then those because I've had to this because it had to be so serious about it to you know, like when I'm fighting thirty five I'm like, whatever I'll eat much that want do what I want kind of thing. I still stick to a good diet, but I can eat lay don't do intermittent fasting wink do fast low base at onto. I don't have to be strict. And so me being a strict the happened the last twelve weeks, I'm closer, wait. Now when I wake up then I would be at one thirty five. So this might be a less painful cut in the very at the end of it. Then it would have been at one thirty five. Not. I mean in price still gonna suck. You know? It's definitely don't get me wrong. But yeah, I mean, the handling very professional. I bet I make us and Sudas. What is it that motivates you to do this? Because and how do you think it will affect you? Because he's fighting in his natural weight, and you are cutting ten pounds. What does the motivate? You do that is just the idea of being a two belt champion. That and my legacy, you know, being to build champion continue to do. I believe the greatest fighter right now. I believe I'm the best. And which way to prove it to show it, you know, onto twenty five I go to forty five I could do all man, and I really just wanted to show. My legacy improved on the greatest fighter out there. And sure everyone how professional him and looks who to call me out the fight. You know, I think it's a big hyped of fight. And I'm excited about it. The great one Ray, we built my name. And I'll go out there not wrestling and snatched that gold medal ought to. I wanted to Sam Calvi your conditioning your coach he's trying to condition code. You've said that he is a genius. And what what is he doing? That is so good for you. Many is he's I mean, if you sit down it takes like years kinda understand what he's talking about. They kinda goes over your head when you sit down and talk to him. But if he's always into every molecule and everything's going on in your body. He's tracking. Hurry, when I'm sleeping you make every meal. I eat. He he's got every strenuously plan. Dow we have my logo as pain Dow he knows what what like every Sunday. We've had a go like that week. I need to wake up at a certain weight. And when I reached that he comes off the checklist Dumai via to max, my hair analysis, my home on testing my Megan three Megan fixes and just kind of making sure that my body's in homies stations at all times and running smoothly and and not cutting any corners. I mean, the guy he I've met him now for two two years ago now, and it's crazy what my body is done and the things that I that have been able to change in strong. I'm. Everything's lying. But I'm actually throwing more weight right now than it was my last cancel and thirty five, you know, my my my cleaned presses is throwing more weight on stronger in light or some strength weight ratio is gone up. Which is unheard of you know, but I've just up to the program. I haven't haven't faltered in continuously game. So I'm all in with Vida. You know of the training. He's he the straight of genius. What is low base you said that a couple time. What does that mean? Also, my little base is like a a workout that. I do. It's easy keeps your heart rate at a certain level. So for me, a low base would be so wanted your view to max and your Armar which tells you what your body burning fats carbs 'cause you wanna be more of a fat burning machine than car burning machine 'cause unit better cardio and producing gas at all that stuff. There's a certain heart rate, I need to keep my body under. And that's when I do. I'm wanting runs is I consider that my logo. It's low based training. I'm running out of certain heart rate keeping under over a certain hot raybird under another one. So I'm not I'm not running hard oil. I mean now it's harder because I'm in such good shape in my heart rate has to had to push harder to get it higher. But you know, when you first start out, it's like an easy job. You're able to hold a conversation while doing it. But you do it for an hour thing, you know. So that you just have your body start burning fats rather than burning cards, and yeah, I mean, just hopes you shed, the weight, and that's what you do. First thing in the morning. Every morning. It's all period, period. Sorry came talk period. I it's all scheduled out. You know, like, I I know exactly what days I'm doing on that doing it every day. 'cause you know, I don't wanna do before sparring. You know, one of the news, I wanna come into spying. I wanna feel good. So maybe I sleep in the longer sparring days, or my certain issue days gonna be on super hard. So I don't want to add any more stress load to the body. And so it's all done at a certain time. But yeah, I do that socialist camp quite often. Let me as you thoughts on I feel bad for the poor guy. But but Dominick Cruz suffering another long-term injury. What are you man? It's crazy. That's kind of a bummer. No. I mean because nothing nothing. I would love to see you guys go at it again. I know that was a very very close that was a close fight. And it was a you're a competitive person to say, the least, and I would you have. I mean, that's something you really want to avenge. I know you feel you should've got the nod. And it was definitely I definitely know. I should have got the nod. But yeah, something that I've wanted to get back when you know. But it's crazy, man. The guy has I mean, what you got like two fights in the last like eight years who knows these crazy that he can't stay healthy. And that his body's just falling apart wasn't meant to fight. Maybe who's been to talk. You know, maybe to have that chip on his shoulder and sit behind the desk because he cannot stay healthy, man. Yes, I'm guys. They really do. I love though, with the the the three the three of them like it's like TJ. Then you've got Dom, of course. And then Cody all different like TJ such a nice, dude. But yet he has nice little rivalries with these guys that with themselves. Well, Dominic definitely is an opinionated, dude cody's. But it's funny, and I don't have anything personal used either to just something that happens to be fought each other. He got under my skin. And job of it the mental warfare, you know, 'cause I've never had a problem with guy. I've done commercialism. I've been around him. He's like I got no problem with him. But then he starts like nagging at you like, all right. You know, and then cody's made it personal. He came at me. So that was just, you know, the these rivalries kinda foul me. And that's what happens when you perform at the highest levels and have cameras on your on you twenty four seven, you know, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna see differences. Have you seen Cody at all interacted with him at all says less fight? No, I haven't. No, I haven't really seen much of him or or seen him personally. No before we let you go to ask you about the poster they use it. Interesting photo of you for the for the now did you make that face? Do they grab an old photo? Or did that happen? What we're going to go with this one. Well, they created the poster I mean, I think I remember taking that photo. And it's kinda like thing I might have been during the ultimate fighter kind of with Kodiak chain. Like this guy. You know, what I mean like put a smirk on my face and front of my thumb at this guy like was this guy up to, but I feel like I've kinda handled this situation in kind of way. Like, I I'm very confident I'm gonna coming. In their run through pseudo. And obviously I'm respecting who he is. He's a great athlete and everything. But look man, I'm confident I know that I'm the better fighter, and I'm gonna get out there and put it on him. So I think that that's what I've protrayed a little bit love it or hate it kind of thing, you know, on that really to about it everyone agrees. I think you're one of the hardest guys to prepare for because you fighting so unorthodox it's impossible to figure out what you're gonna throw from second to second year at extremely difficult guy. I think for anyone to get ready for appreciate him in. That's usually the plan. You know, we try to mix it up as well as I mean, this sport. And then the name was crazy menus Bill be like a boxer kickboxer Jichi fighter or, you know, wrestler coming in and do in do well and get to the top. But not anymore. Man. You have to you have to train ima main as the sport is a whole, you know, and keeping someone guessing is sport. You have no idea what I'm gonna do win. I'm gonna do it. And that's why I keep saying that when out wrestled does because I'm able. I Mabel to keep him guessing I'm gonna rest, I my Bill the wrestle with them. You know? So I'm gonna be everywhere. Welcome winning the sport of him a man. Yeah. You are. I mean, I have to pick TJ too. I mean, I think who does a great fighter. But I think that you're just I think you're gonna be too much for them. Fighting pseudo. It's obviously the main event January the nineteenth from Brooklyn and good luck band. I one of my favorite guys to watch. Yeah. TJ in my bed on the other thing. I was being a little bitchy. Don't worry about it. But I got on the phone. Gotta God off an interview I'm running dealer that was that was on that too. 'cause I was told about it. I guess week in advance. But you know, how practice changes, and I carry my styles of media. You get a call it. I thought it was the New York athletic commissions. It's a New York number. You know? I would do medical day all this stuff. And I was like what I hear you. Listen day before I showed a memory of a goldfish. Thanks so much champ. Take him and good luck. EJ? Of course hats wanted to give a big shot on my website dot com. And for looking to take my online courses to fit the fight. I'm showing all those techniques. You guys talk about winning go over. I have my I have my own all my course, where I'm showing techniques talking about how to be confusing to show different techniques and keep your opponent guessing. But it's fit to fight. You're not only learn how to do some martial arts jujitsu wrestling striking. But you'll also also pair them with strengthening workout that will make you better at that technique, so beginning shape, and you learn how to fight it's it's been released now for a week, and it's done wonderful and everyone's loving it. So I wanted to give that a big shot was there. I appreciate what's TJ dillashaw dot com where it's at but it's called fit to fight. Awesome. So. Sounds. Thank you, buddy. I really appreciate it. I'm thank you start to get kid, bro. Later, it listened today was about new beginnings. Okay. I feel better. I am not a negative. I'm I'm a happy person. I'm not a negative person. Happy happy special. Lad, don't call me. I decided I did you preempted struck myself. But listen to me, I'm so happy that we're friends again. I am to acquaint. It was never it was never a problem. When this I people are attack any maybe I get a little emotional. But isn't that while you love people, isn't it? Of course, you know. I appreciate it Alexander Hernandez TJ dillashaw Jimmy does hurt with feeling. Jay, right. I was simple. Boy, a good friend. You are. All right. Jimmy. I listen everybody. You gotta plug anything. I'm gonna be in Phoenix tonight tomorrow Saturday, and then next week is West Palm Beach the eighteenth and nineteenth. And then I have nothing else. I'm working on a project. I'm going to getting my legs. This little oh, you working on a project. Jimmy. I'll tell you about a. Wow, that's wow. Accusing suspends me. I'm getting my get my sapping it out of me, a my knee, and I'll be looking around week people. But toll fucker beaks Comores. Sure do good. Bye. Bye. All right. Never member. 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UF 309: Alexander Hernandez, Leon Edwards (kind of) & UFC on ESPN 4 Preview

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

52:00 min | 1 year ago

UF 309: Alexander Hernandez, Leon Edwards (kind of) & UFC on ESPN 4 Preview

"Oh welcome to the big show Alexander her Dan blow seven seven point win street now in the heart of division in school welcome to U._F._C. unfiltered alike Jimmy. Yes Sir put some respect on my name. I'm so I don't WanNa come at you hot back up he wants to absolutely that's what you didn't even say that William Edward Sweaty say you better put some respect on his name. You're right. I do welcome to you C. unfiltered. I'm Jim Norton with the Great Matt Matt Serra Hall of Famer Former Welterweight champions the powerful as Joe Rogan would say Matt Sarah. Why did you hit that now? Why would you find the button? We've had Alexander before. I like him a lot. Yeah he lost his last fight to cowboy and we also have Leon Edwards who I really love. I wanted to see him fire. Hey Mash Fidel now and I'm going to complain loudly if you wanted to see that because that whole three piece we gotta ask him about that. Yeah I heard there was some I heard they gotta get him. Out of. There man like there was room like like like a Yo like <hes> what's his name Edwards was like he wanted to meet up getting a hotel her. They just packed up all he stuff in when right to the shooting punch a guy like that like you know and I like math. You shouldn't punch punch a guy like that backs Leon. Did he go. Did he ask Rookies Matt. I'm going blind. I can't see I know right now but I was gonna say like was his mindset <hes> <hes> going into like when he was interrupting hallway during an interview was mindset just to get the fight on by any means necessary because he was doing what I want to ask him about that. Remind me Jimmy Jimmy. What are you something okay? What what's the chances of this so I was at the <hes> you know I just I'm over the fucking place? 'cause I'm on very little sleep. I took my kids got their nationals. This week's Alantic city so I just came from Atlantic City like I told us right. I got up but like five in the morning and not that Anita medal for that Jimmy you're up at six every morning all right but <hes> but my thing is like I had to drive from A._C.. To here and I WANNA get the fuck out of your afternoon drive from Delaware morning you just trying to be better than you and everything going to finish my story. I what am I what about pouting little shit now. I'm not going to ruin your fucking show while I was doing so anyway so I'm at a rest stop the with that long fucking stretch from C. I hold you gotta go from exit thirty eight all the way to one twenty-five before you're gone. You know that that's a long fucking stretch while you're a little tight on the little tell you if we get to the turnpike you mean before for you hit the Oh. No no your on the park the whole time Oh yes before you hit the before you at the Garden State Parkway. No you're on the turnpike bike on very little sleep. Okay I get two hours a night jog before you hit the Jersey turnpike. You're on your drive over an hour yup. Yes sure so then you know you think like you often. Do I got a little baby bird bladder like my little bird Jim. I have a terrible bladder student walking out of the bathroom and a guy you don't. I like to make eye contact with people so for yourself stocking not every year right Jimmy nine hundred well. Sometimes you might who knows how you get your dates. I don't know there's not a day. I'd just like to look people in the Ongo. Hello okay well. All is an I was walking and it wasn't really crowded. It was whatever in the morning so I was walking out when this gentleman was walking in stock guy with a mustache Kinda made I caught a little bit I go. I know that fucking guy. I know I definitely but he's an older guy. I'm like God if I can. Hey Notice Guy Fucking Jersey turnpike yeah so then you know it's one of one of the big ones on the one twenty four so also. I know that guy isn't as I thought of it. He's he's right. The Eagles Matt it was Frankie his father funny. Is that man what's the chances of that so let me show you pitcher so then so we were talking you know he's fight Max coming up and we're talking about in the next next two weeks. Oh I can't get that guy's weak and I can't wait for that fucking fight. They look so areas. What a nice and let me tell you something if you ever wonder you wonder why everybody loves Franky You gotTa Look at his family? I mean it's such a sweetheart of a guy I remember before I was going to fight Matt Hughes. I was in the locker room with Frankie Frankie. Who's GONNA fight? He's fainting Sean Shirk so as I walk it out I remember right before I walked out and show he already Ford already frankie so that was in a good mood. He and his father was right at the entrance. You walk out. I don't know what you remember like certain things so I was waiting for my music and I saw him and he's like I always cheer me on. What a nice guy so anyway I was happy to see him him and and Frankie Holloway fight it'd be a man that's fine I wanted after he stepped aside and Holly get hurt then he Ford Ortega Ortega got the shot? I WANNA see a frankie can do Chris Holloway. It's so good on honesty and hard to take down and you want to do what he did against Rodriguez again now. He's not an inexperience. He's not a young fighter like Rodriguez. Max Is fucking champion but can he do something similar where he uses that ground game. I'm GonNa they say that Max. I'M GONNA say Frankie Ford more people not why I'm GonNa say not like. I don't want to say like like Max because Max really a special united mail. He really does have ability but I think Frankie's heart I gotta repair for because He mixed he mixes it up so well the striking shots and he's so dangerous everywhere and it's funny 'cause I think people's I think for for some reason I think people still sleep on Frankie. I don't know why a lot of decisions and he also has been there for so long and you just know frank. I don't know which is not a shit talker. Just Navia and you look at him. He looks like an athletic guy. Leaders like a whip or anything no but he's not like a you know. Some of these guys look like monsters and this and that so that people people think they can either out. I don't know what people I think they can do with them but they can. You know what I mean very very very rarely do and his cardio do his cardio. He literally is less tired halfway through the fifth than I am walking to the bathroom when I get up in the morning he's a fucking animal. He's one of those guys that he just doesn't slow down. He's not happy unless he's bloodied by the end of the first round he's almost with the exception of that one shot Ortega hit him with he's a- knockout -able I mean the guy's a fucking tank and he's got to think more hours or minutes in the octagon than anybody unless that's been passed asked I think he has got more more minutes in the cage than any fighter and U._F._C. history so you trying to say he's been around. He's been around the world Jimmy he's been around. That's exactly that was trying to say he's been around the world. You'd think the next verse he's been around. I'll do it after the show all right so jimmy so you got chips and going on I do you tape that tonight on Wednesdays but what's more important Mac chip on your day also Zoeller Jimmy the Godfather to where I wanna see Alexander Hernandez is let me put my glasses on silly right into this nice espresso. It's really good you know rest. Stop by the starbucks. It's not it's not a big story. Story Alabama was telling you that I realized that you and everybody listening that. They don't need the now you're right all right so go ahead Jimmy Francisco Rinaldo. This is Saturday on E._S._P._N.. In San Antonio this is a very fucking good card. Ours is because we also have Leeann words of course the main event is Edwards against Doe Sanyo's Co main is Alexi Against Walt Harris now. We'll Harris had that really tough fight against again. I'd lose short notice against. For Doom wasn't that like a one or two day replacement fight. Am I incorrect remembering that Oh yeah that was the last thing right. It was deemed Tom City jinx them because he goes man. You gotTa take this shot. You'll get an opportunity like took listen in hindsight what they say about hindsight yes. It's twenty twenty boards was rice. You gotTa take that shot if you don't take Josie didn't take it after conor came back when his opponent got hurt. He never got the shot again again Jimmy. I took my Shochu me she did auto make me bring that up again Jimmy two thousand seven it was April. It was Texas Right <hes> Jimmy Dallas Houston. No it was Houston and nobody nobody nobody yeah. I did get a shot at it you did. Did you back then yes. I know you were never met now. You will okay and you gave me a shot. Yeah give it a shot you Fox so insincere Nostra so instances so assiette as you put those Toronto. This is hard. Those are really expensive thirty dollars thirty dollars. You know how funny is all right anyway. Let's talk fights. Why don't we do our picks? Do our picks Jimmy. I'm very lately. I don't think there's much to making some of these songs Jimmy before we do Song Oh you don't want to I want to do a song with you. Greg Hardy hardiest fighting gang foreign one who greg hardy on Adams and by the way ladies episode Dana White Looking for a fight when we swim with sharks and do all craziness and it really it Really Highlights Dean Thomas's coaching ability yeah they have him coach Greg Hardy and his in his last U._F._C. Fight and that well the actual so they showed the behind the scenes footage of him back there with them and then <hes> and then they and then they show him also cornering another gentleman verse one of D._C.. And Lucas Buddies so good episode for Dean Thomas The reason I brought that up because in that on that episode of looking for a fight he is coaching Greg Hardy who is fighting this Saturday night Jimmy yes. He is the segue excellent James Vick again always fun to watch against Dan Hooker. That's a great fight but is a Hernandez Francisco Rinaldo and of course I believe the opening fight of that <hes> that card is our lobby against Ben Rothwell. That's a tremendous fight and Orlowski was on such a role wow did they. Did they fight before he's not. I would have to look that up. I don't have to look that up as I say that loud. Somebody else looks at all right. We got we have around the fall. was that what you're doing. Yes hey there is Alexander how you doing hey doing well. Are you guys doing very good buddy. <hes> it's been <music> since we we spoke to San Antonio now yes I was actually I was about a twenty five minute drive from Brisbane right now. I'm sorry buddy coming in from where the brothels oh the the new braunfels Germantown fully different Matt suggest should be a lot more fun though but you probably have to fight for that one I watched too much game of thrones Alexander. I guess I thought heard brothels felt like <music> brothel. Oh yeah maybe <hes> <hes> what's what's his name. The speared answer tour of the mountain got a little. How is he the Red Viper? How great was he then he was fantastic man and he was like a fan favorite for everybody that was such a devastating blow but that's the beauty of game of thrones fan and say I know what I've seen real unhealthy vendor myself? You know this Jimmy Jimmy. He says he watches game of thrones episode. I smell fake fan. That's right Alexander these fucking fake no the cars. You're looking for like that's right. I watched every episode and Dude. I would forget shit that happened. I couldn't follow it. I watched the first three seasons. I watched twice spoilers. Jimmy you wouldn't remember when somebody's winning a fight great and then it gets his fucking head exploded you shuttle Dad aero all the way up to on a hill or something face to face crushed. You'll be is is Pascal <hes> <hes> yes. He was also narcos in recognize his show name. I don't WANNA sound like Jujitsu man here Alexander but when those things went to the is if he did so fucking he might have been good with a spear but if the prince do fuck it on lock to we took the mountains all of them I mean it was a massive arms. I mean I did see them on. I can handle that position pretty well. I'm not sure you need to pretty invasive. She's basic pitch. Maybe some <hes> you know like tricky verse locks and then at that point. If you do get the arm you gotTa make sure you hold the leg so the guy can't do fucking Quinton Jackson on a arena to you fucking body slam one of those legs man. That's like that's like you and me together again. We've seen him fight and he had a knife in his eye and I believe he's still fought through it. That's a tough to stop even with Jujitsu. He's not a quick tapper. No He's not he's got it. Hey Man speaking Abed assets now. Look you coming off a tough fight with cowboy. How long ago was that? That was a while ago. Why right was January and we surround some <HES> <HES> my car up until now that was January I've been I've been unit for <hes>? You know for the next match for a little bit. Now I mean. Have you been healthy. You've been chomping at the bit to get back. Yeah you know I kinda went through <hes> <hes>. I guess they're not really that my injuries to my shoulder my ribs <hes> after the fight I kinda like jumped right. I didn't jump right back in you know you. Kinda hit that <hes> that look certainly after loss especially. You know I <hes> as you probably you know ascertain by now. I don't see myself say things in one so <hes> that that lost it hurt and I had to kind of like go go to that dark age to come out and see the either in <hes> by jumped right back into the gym. Maybe not in the most healthy physical state <hes> just you know eat a drinking like an asshole for a few weeks and <hes> I <hes> I mean one one heart session. I should Kinda I flew into Jim's just goes off. The plane went over to Melinda's. Jim started rolling around in like one one real our session. It was kind of a long day I got in their works passed in some weight and any <hes> and then he give me a little bit later so I was kind of you know up and down down and then <hes> you WanNa get a grappling and we're like I like sure let's go. Let's get after I'm here. Let's do it and <hes> and you know the bill back up. The Momentum Hilo heated again. I I go ahead. No we'll take it real slow art as fucking classes Italian you know there has been a roach frigging banging it out and <hes> and just just little positions <hes> crazy just like squeezes or bushes. Isn't I mean I I I was just my body kind of falling apart and so <hes> I didn't realize the magnitude of until you know getting back home and training a few weeks later I guess it's just re-aggravating reactivating sort of become a little bit of a problem so I did have to recoup cooper that Jordan issues <hes> getting that you know I always say that you know. Injuries are just kind of opportunity to explain other witnesses often those those injuries come because you're my yoga we're working on or or overuse over using that ligament or you know whatever it is and under utilizing other parts of your body so <hes> actually does opportunity to build up you know the rest of my game got crazy <hes> always working that movement and I built a really big frying cardio base in the time to so <hes> my cardio and he'd say she'll legitimately in the best shape I've ever been in my life around. Just can't that <hes> I maybe like a third. I love you know if I was doing around like I'm doing seven now and so <hes> it's always use injuries to my vantage so it was a little bit of a rocky road now Alexander what made you pick or how did it come about the fight with Francisco Rinaldi. WHO's not I'll tell you turn Aldo? He's not he's no. He's a walk in the park for anybody. How did this come about with him? Well you know it was a fight that was arranged tennis aronie fight and then the Surani fight and <hes> and that was Kinda like four weeks out. They're like stories right. He wants to come down and of course the jumped on it and so <hes> I think cer- Journal I got a short stick there <hes> and it was we haven't gotten this rony fight and I guess just in the rearrangement of things they tossed special options around just wayne my you know really anything that's GONNA get back in there and you know not not not not to actually there's some things I need to rewire. I mean I truly rewire after the last night <hes> <hes> psychologically <hes> my whole approach and so <hes> I you know I didn't want to oversell the jump into the fight. Make mistakes vows really open anybody and they just kinda landed on running back and find that ask tree play on early in the year. Now I listen the guys you know. He's a total stud. I saw his last fight with Evan Dunham who I hold it high regard but let me ask you this now 'cause every trainers different now my trainer Ray Longo Ongo if I was in your shoes I know you gotTa tell me if you train is telling you this. I know my trainer will be going. Come on. It's fucking forty years old. Did you hear that at all from your trainer there also also we learned not underestimate age too much on the last one I little cocky the age not market and not to say that I had a huge fucking advantage off it is man. It's not easy you know. I don't think eons faster stronger and even more still full when I'm not underestimating. This time is the experience factor in that composer so that was really getting to the drawing board for me. Was Hey dude. You got it. All I wholeheartedly. I haven't almost anything that I didn't take that last night. It was a loss of confidence. It's just a matter of went in there. You hurt him a wounded animal values to oversell to take the kill. I had to get that kill shot in as opposed to appreciate that level down. We'll take take him out so <hes> there's one thing that you saw identify what you're all though was <hes> patience he sat back in the kind of let them hop in and it was pretty telegraphed movement and not the best reaction time either Majete fast now but regardless these patient demand man easiest gritty. You know like a dog in there. You know not being special guy. Cry Me you can take hits. It doesn't have as many keeps moving. He's moving so <hes> for me. Look at someone like turn though as a matter of the impatient not going out there you know always say not come out and walk around now. Leave it and that was kind of a shell shock a little bit when I was in Sorority on the Shannon and it's like man I see video in the eyes of for some reason it wasn't good enough for me. I had to see him go out and and that that was Kinda screwing me psychologically so <hes> no longer my living in this world where it's got to be a one round execution. I'm ready for for the WHO dismantling over fifty minutes. I know I'm going to expect that which Renaldo although stuff <hes> he's forty years old but he's tough and he's going to be experienced patient and so I got I got a over over <hes> sit on my end as far as being patient poisoning compose. Did you say really big on of the sorry I apologize I did the destroying fight came on four weeks notice. Did I miss here you. You said that I was I was was training for Sean so it wasn't like I was out of the <hes> you know I mean I'm always I'm always Jim. I can really changes you know maybe <hes> <hes> an extra sparring session and <hes> maybe like a yeah to less amps coach trail mix back. You know I get I get nasty with a with a not makes it nice but no yeah I it was it was <hes> it was a it was a more sore nose but still it was still ample. I'm also wondering about cowboy to He. Just decided to take a fight or did he have somebody else who dropped out. I don't remember <hes> I think it sounded like everyone was kind of preparing and he was already making its way down at fifty five that injury and they were they were kind of cycling through opponents. I didn't realize until afterwards they said if you guys starting them down and then I guess I was <hes> was the absolute accepted so yeah more tremendously and even tell my coach you know if it wasn't going to be that fight. It could have been the next one and it was because of my approach my style that's idea that was just gonNa go in there and wipe before then that she doesn't cut it. You know I in the in the top ten especially on the top five this idea that you shouldn't go out there a few hard times and they're gonNA fall over for. I mean these these are tranquilize. You've been around three times as long as I have. They used to take those lakes adversity coming back and being composed and there's anything that <hes> Sironi exhibited now is is is his mental fortitude. I don't think he used to have that when he was younger. You know <hes> I think that I could give him in and I think that he would have broken and he kind of I think mine alluded to that later on just about not following that warhol anymore you know easy Kinda like sits back doc in realizes am good and this is what i WanNa do and I'm doing it for big purposes now so he <hes> he really exemplified higher mental fortitude and composure level that I'm trying to amplify now or trying to you know emulate rather than so <hes> yeah that that's the biggest game changer and again looking at this fight. It is anything that this guy has on me experience and so what I what do I compose compose <hes>. I've got everything else fees. Let me tell you Alexander. Everything you said about cowboy is true but the reason why he was able to do that and have the patience and everything is because he's been in the exact position that that he puts you in a circle of life. Now you're learning from it. You're going to be more dangerous and like coach said that fight might've been when you're fighting for the belt that you might have fucking tried to do what you did in that cowboy fight so hey man I am excited for you Alexander. You bring the fight every time you're exciting. Fuck the watch and you Rinaldi is definitely got. That could be fighting tonight right there brother. That's the people's People's main event for sure you know. We're a little lower around the cars and I would have liked but I'm definitely excited about the match. I'm excited about the then you of course being a hometown as first time for me man the last two fights I had never seen in Canada so going against the Canadian hometown hero time right now. I want to get stuck getting Reagan Reagan in New York on the last one so it's nice to it's nice to be in a step into a venue where you know you got your people all around you always good talking to you and and good luck man. We'll talk to you again soon all right good luck this Saturday thank you I appreciate appreciate you guys ever think you take care buddy all right man. Listen man yeah a great fight the kids he's a very entertaining fighter. I love watching them again. I got a cowboy. We're frankie or any of these guys John Jones when you watch. It's fun to watch a veteran who get in trouble and know how to whether they know how to survive it. They know how to just hold on because there's fifteen seconds left like they know I'm running out of energy. Let me just finish this round. Sit from income they just know how to get into the next round and get a little bit of a fucking. I can boost. They know it because they have been through it themselves. Man You know so it's a painful painful lesson. It is right and I'll tell you I I shouldn't even told them like when he said he was upset for those those. How many weeks and is I mean do I think? There's something wrong if you're not upset about that. If you dislike then you're not going to that's why you could tell that kid's GonNa go somewhere because it should get you pretty hard man you know and if it's not I mean don't get me wrong. Don't be Assad in little bitch forever like you know what I mean. It'll be like that for three three weeks in the room. They get the fuck out of your room and open up the shades little timmy. It'd be like a little bitch sorry. You're you know you gotta man up man up and handle your Shit Jimmy I do. I agree all right all right. Thank thank you Alex Hernandez. Let's take a quick break and pay some bills and we will come right back. Today's episode is brought to you by devour pizza. It is the official frozen pizza the U._F._C. now they get to be the official Pie close to reasons that yes I figured out how to make a pizza in the shape of an octagon. You think I'm kidding right but I'm not it's literally in the shape of an octagon second. These frozen pizzas are loaded with <hes> to the crust with meets even have a pie called all the three way pet for when you're in the mood for not one not two three types of Pepperoni Matt. Does that sound good deal Chimi. I tried this devour pizza because they sponsor Dana white looking for a fight and I did a little taste test. Guess what Pizza Sir I picked with three pizzas guess which one I'm GonNA guess an hope. It's Jaime. It's devour devour. That's what you do to it. Oh Jimmy is so smart. It's so good to me. I love develop pizza next time you're in the freezer. I'll make sure you pick one up devour pizzas. You're not gonNA believe it's frozen pizza. They have a thick crust savory sauce cheese and the finest meaty toppings Matt is vouching personally. Matt enjoys a good pizza making me hungry for develop. Jimmy check got these delicious delicious delicious. What an idiot? I'm reading pizza. Check out these delicious pizza options. 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He's showing up every time the fucking spotlight's on him Jimmy. He's showing up at a lot of espresso today Jimmy. That's okay. I like the energy. I don't have energy. I'm very tired today. Okay so your energy kind of balances out for both of US balanced to me. I I would like to see a master vomit again. I you know how I feel. I Still WanNa see Colby fight him but I don't know if that'll happen. Kobe has what lawler is that his next fight. That's next five and that's interesting to answer really know and we're is Robbie Lula training now because he left A._T._T.. Dot I don't know you know Motorola. Be Gentle. God's activity carried away from the day all right. I'M NOT GONNA listen. Will you hang out with forty people. I'm not one of them. I like them goodson amusing men Jimmy when I said he's A._T.. And T. for Motorola was it the faces I'll be forty five year old man Jimmy. I swear to Motorola like the phone company. Is that a phone company. What are now it's not plugged in and unplugged this all thanks? Nothing's things working. Nah Not working. Thank God oh fuck you guys. You guys suck. Sorry actually hit a good one. You said Motorola phone company. Little can't believe the crap they stupid ipad fuck. You hate to little ipad stand made whatever it's made of the cloth bottom and slips you don't like that because you had when you get all steamed with nasty stains off normally bushes Jimmy. Don't get yourself in coney. Criminal is how Iraq off. How do you act office? Usually I'm new IPAD nightfall my laptop. The I don't need my hand touching the screen Dole touch this. I'm usually nude. Have you ever seen footage of a baboon sitting in in grass. That's what I look like I myself. I'm like a non I._B.. You have to show you. I've been to your place. I mean I'd be paranoid. People got like binoculars. I opened the windows. I turn up my lights and I put the spotlight on myself to me. You're going to get in trouble so watch my house. Don't look yeah I sit on the balcony and I'll tell you right now. Jimmy Jimmy. I do a neutering attacking tugging Jimmy G.. It's not a good visual all I'm thinking about now where we got to bed now. We're over at the hotel there and A._C.. And you know what man I you know I'm in the bed with my one kid. The other night I was in bed with my wife and my one kid and then now the last night I was with my other kid like we got a two beds to king to queen size beds. Dude GonNa get my my wife. Tell the kids give the kids in my time ago before Jimmy. They you know so what they're not go play the machines he so tired because she's you know she's gotta run back and forth through their hair that you're not gonna get laid this. She's GonNa get it. She's GonNa Luckily this week <hes> Jimmy. Let's talk fights. Yes all the six yet well now. The Korean Zombie Woo has talked that he wanted to fight Brian Ortega. Oh wait is that number going on and he wants to fight him thought he so that's what fucking that's the news stories and he wants to fight him yeah but that'd be quite like he's getting note. He's not no he hasn't Ford. He's not fought since holly loss no man please get on a year now for that right. ooh What it's saying here. I see something you WanNa talk more about that verse. Let's do it no no. It was December of twenty eight teams less than a year. Sorry all right guys on time yeah. I thought it was longer so young men okay mytalk first of all I would love that for who wouldn't love that fight you ever see the Korean Zombie get a twister. You'd never seen that no he. Did you put put the fight pass later. Let's see what we unsee it but anyway did he get that. I don't want to say the wrong guy because then I'm GonNa guys gotta get twisted you asshole. I listened me. We're going to get back to that guy. We're going to get back to them but first small everybody and their mother would like to see Korean Zombie Verse Ortega Jimmy. What a great fight all right <hes> Jimmy? What is it fuck miss the year? I see funk master. It says that he said he's ready ready to go back to business here. He's he's looking at favorites the great finish but you need to be the least someone in the top ten. I'll handle Sedudu. I think he made an error with Henry Suharto's name to do implying that these shit it was a mistake mistake. He probably talked texting. He called them the triple chump. There's a misspelling permits. The champ put words in his mouth he meant I think he meant trump. I'm not calling but trump by our news. Don't get me wrong fighting on what Al Joe but I do. I do really respect Henry pseudo. He's been tremendous. He's been through hell and back in that last fight. Who's he talking about going and fighting? Max I'm not sure I mean come on. He gets a little wacky but he's an awesome guy backing up every first of all shame on shame shame shame on me Jimmy. I shouldn't be saying anything if he wants to fight Max that guy's backs up everything he says who the fuck up by right hall of Famer I I know I know he does but he's what he does like to fuck in Olympian gold medalist and and dull champ Olympic. You're an Olympic friend the gold medal for Friendship. Can you sum you're punctual. I so listen Matt's punctual champion. Let's talk about <hes> well listen. I would love to see funk master fight. I services due to as dodge Jimmy respect. You're going to see him again. You better put respect on his name just like Leon Edwards. Well I WANNA see I'll fight him for the belt okay. Let's just picks LEEA- Leeann is calling soon so we might as well before we got a couple of minutes right. Yes a five. You can get a couple of picks thank you. I knew it was either way. Why does it says Edwards last two fights wind verse Gunnar Nelson Split Decision If back and watch? I remember remember remember that incorrectly go. I might be remembering that incorrectly might be you might if cell Matt almost remembered incorrectly. I can't say I'm pretty sure other decision. Okay I was I remember to roll mom Jimmy. I mean assets shitty Jimmy. All I know is when you did ask that they they looked they got a little nervous. I just didn't remember it. was you know what I mean but take your power. There's no power that was wrong. I know Jimmy all right. Let's see was it a split decision. I'm guessing it was why am I still trying to be right. I was wrong. It was the vision I was wrong. Why don't you shut the fuck up? It was a split was it Nah. I don't think it was a split I think it was I just didn't remember being split decision. Let's see they said it was a split. They might be right. I mean obviously those guys you might be right. I'm vic let me see it was a split decision. They are correct. I don't know I don't I'm not GonNa dig it on this. Those guys it does to a bizarre I will in hindsight. No that makes no sense now that I read that <hes> pity it says the scores to a bizarre twenty nine twenty eight Nelson. This is what you remembering it was. It was silly that it was a split decision and I'm a big Fan. I'm pretty sure it was obvious that it was maybe Komo Woods. 'cause I know being oppressed man. He gets them down. It's GonNa be trouble and you know what I'm so high on gunners <hes> Jujitsu but he adds some answers man yeah I could be wrong. Cowboy Olivera didn't like it. I uh-huh Nelson pretty dominating performance by words. If I'm remembering it right and we we have a lot of stuff to talk to him out. I want to ask them. You can talk about that. I want to ask him about the massive Dell stuff. Yes the intentions going over there. Did it happened just out of that spot spun Jimmy Jimmy. I love that word. No why pronounce it spontaneously Ish can don't put what are you one that cartridge in health the corporations right next to the applause as it should be any dos Santos Edwards. What do you think is a five around main event fight man? Oh Man I know it I'm taking. Let's pick that one last because he's calling it won't be awkward. I'm GonNa Take Edwards. I'm taking Edwards in that fight. He is really great thing R._D._A.. He did look really great and he cowboy but R._D._A.'s R._D._A.'s Jujitsu by making a difference in this one. I'm not sure argues creepy standing up to it. You gotta remember. He's look great well. How do you look verse? I mean look at we looked versa Kevin Leman. He looked awesome. I Kevin late in the day. Take these cardio looks great and it's a main of it's it's the main event I'm GonNa take no Liane Edwards sources by decision so it's five rounds Jimmy Edwards by decision Jimmy. It's five rounds you seen decision five hundred indeed. I'm going to go decisions decision for a dose Angeles. Okay you know why more he's been around he has so I'm going to say you know you're right. I don't WanNa say don't make me what else well we also have. The Komai aw against Walt Harris Harris had a tough fight against Verdun so interesting it is but I think on the ground Ola clinic is going to <hes> I think he is going to dominate him on the ground to see a second round submission owning. Let me tell you something I am so for the Jitsu guys and the other guys forty two years old he could went to school with me so you'd think I'd be picking him. Look at me surprise. Oh I like the shot you always do right. They scare. You know I'm going with Walt. Harris Okay ground the pound second round all right. Hey you might be working with small people. He is and he looked amazing. I was there law. Maybe because I was laying live and I was in the locker room was watching them warm up with Eric unders anders and and he looked he looked good you you know and then he went out there and steamrolled the guy. Maybe that's just fresh in my brain but he looked great so I'm telling you I think <hes> it's GonNa be a good night for Mold Harris. Okay we've both here now. <hes> <hes> keeping track of this fucking Shit. I'm sorry third down Greg Hardy against one Adams. I'm not as familiar with one atom yeah. You'll give you like his brothers beer though patch exactly why you shot the the guy. What does it say I Jimmy? I'm a hack. I'm just a hack so I don't try to Adams whose patch of Robin Williams movie replayed the fun dumb doctor telling jokes. That's a horrible story but it's not a great is a true story based on something very inspirational shit movie yeah. What's your favorite lager bicentennial man the the robot probably Oh fuck? Oh let me tell you thirsty. Give me a good will hunting <music>. I got greedy all right listen. So what do you have in hardy against one atoms whose brothers what patch you love Z.. Something's is so awful. That's not a beer. We're looking at it. Here last fights yeah they are four and one for hardy after that <hes> disqualification loss to Allen crowder and then has five and one. I'm GonNa Take Hardy Again <hes> Second Round T._K._o.. I'm doing the same exact thing okay because that's what I WANNA do. I'm not going to change. Oh you got it. I know I would you. Thank you. Jimmy Amen O J's verse Dan Hooker Has Lost Two straight muster crowder and Paul felder James macos yeah but they both lost to on. I'm sorry Oh we can't hooker loss to <hes> Pablo's. Any you know what Vick is do yes. He is vic is do James Vickers do. For W so I'M GONNA say he's tough. Domain took a beating from Bozo but I'll say third round stoppage vic. I'm going to say Vick decision. Oh right. I'm going right in with this. One Alexander Integrate Yep. I'm going what him hey taking them. You know what man I think is pastes can be too much and I think that third round. He's GONNA end up getting tremendous toughest toughest shit. He's GonNa win by decision. I'm giving him a second round. Stoppage all right supposed to be really child as you're so cool. Why would I say Jimmy we right I you my glass? Infamous Skid was mistake nick. I didn't get hurt our coverage on the phone. Say Leon how you doing buddy. Hey Leon how are you we do and we have to ask you to it's. I don't think we have talked talk to you. Since have we talked since the incident we have four. We don't think so I don't think so <hes> what did you think of his last performance against Ben Aspirin <music> chunks in it. Just WanNa thanks for an on never happened again. One of the things in the Tom Perfectly in fairplay to and can we ask to what exactly went down between you and Mash Fidel backstage. I thought that was really I don't. I don't think I've seen a guy hit another guy in that way before backstage. It seemed like you really kind of a sucker punch. Leon Leon not just cut Goff J. I just wanted to actually was it. The way what happened when he was doing that interview was it was it was it spontaneous or was it. Just you plan on getting a fight with him. After it went undefeated <hes> of all capacity within interview we find July <hes> and those it it also to go back and then got close on for GonNa carry that was it wow it was a coincidence. Though you didn't seek out his interview you will walk in pass these doing the interview and that's when you will you. It's not like you went there to crashes interview. I think the I think the phone crapped out because we were having a little hard time hearing him talk to. I do to his phone may of Shipman. It was a little good yeah just getting good man. Hey Leon we got we got cut off. A Matt was asking about going going back <hes> stage if you were seeking out <hes> Massino or if it just kind of happened yeah <hes> basically just finish my interviews of on the way back to my locker room shower and I was walking past. I said we'll find you like I said before previous to that you have a one of the main event to <hes> I want to find him in July physically and mother who can pass also to July <hes> on his back so say I <hes> got advocate connections Shitty Eliane. We're having a really hard time here. Everybody we WANNA talk to Leonie there. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's actually a lot all right. Thank you so now you want you watch the I wanted to ask you to Nelson fight. We use surprise. It was a split decision. I The I I donate a fight or a on numerous times dropped him <hes> so I couldn't believe it when when a decision you're not you're not easy of one of them things. I'll tell oh yeah I was watching it being shocked that you are putting them down and impressed. I was like Oh shit man. He wants to swim waters and was that Kinda show. Everybody like look. You just think I'm going to be putting people to sleep upstairs. I can fucking grapple take time are constantly got enough one of the best juicy partitions in in India seeing the AU gratin there proof that allowed I'm more than just just struck us to go out there and take him down. Take Back Yeah I can. I'm not just a one dimensional artist of say listen man and he's done damage since then in his last fight so it shows that it's not just him off his game. It shows what you're scared and I'm telling this. I'll tell you Jimmy when I think about this will uber's R._D._A.. I mean is just especially coming off that fight. I mean it shows how well rounded you are so yeah I mean you be thinking that R._D._A.. Being the blog Jujitsu and whatnot why not let me ask you. What do you now not that it means much <hes> last month for my coach? It sounds like we're hearing a voice from beyond I was talking to a Ouija board so now the number twelve right now and a win here probably puts you in the top ten. I would say almost certainly you have your. I said you're still looking for from mastered. I still WANNA shy. You're not looking beyond R._D._A.. But I know you wanNA shot him as well now. Do we have to say goodbye Leeann. I'm thinking this is not meant to be as as far as the interview. Only it's only because the phone keeps cutting out and it's frustrating because he's interesting lovely on this. We're GONNA wish you luck in the fight this Saturday against R._D._A.. Obviously he's a very very tough. Opponent is extremely dangerous and he's looked really good at this weight. I'm GonNa talk again when we got a bit of phone line. Yeah we'll have to talk to you again. We can actually hear you the we appreciate you calling in and I'm sorry that we were not able to hear you and thank you for trying. Thank you Leon Edwards all right. Well listen. Hey good dude a really good guy interesting guy to pick now I can't do that. I'll be an asshole. Listen Jimmy do peixe. We did the goal Orlovsky Ski Ben Rothwell Oh we did. Did we yeah well. I'm GONNA say Big Ben. I just like seeing Big Ben Big Ben Roth Wall Rothwell. I say Kale first round. I fucking. You said that I don't fucking get off my back funny. You say that are Lobski given out. No no no no no. No no can't do it. You Got Big Ben. I love skiing. Oh is that what you said I know Roth while in our lefty do kind of San same patch adams beer's rough day Jimmy you love me for my input imperfections. I there's all there are let me say that it's wrong. Let's cut that you liked me for my imperfections and downgraded from love to like that's much better. I like you. Despite your imperfections Jimmy you want to plug anything. I'll be in Montreal comedy festival. I'll be calling next week. I will not be here. Live being the comedy festival the twenty seventh. I'm doing a show up there and I'm doing one of the gals in a bunch of other sets and if you WANNA see me go to Jim Norton Dot Com. I'm going to be in a bunch of places <hes> I'll be in Columbus and Baltimore August also man last time I was in Montreal got. My ass kicked well. Maybe I will too. Maybe the crowd will boomy Houston Houston. We didn't have a problem getting worse with all my one Watson Great. It's appropriate pro absolute somebody else. Fifty years ago yesterday was the was the day a camera crew got together and pretended to land on the moon. Your does your round the flat triangle. Oh that's all lying team that fucking trying strangles every you fucking pervert listen to me. I'm GonNa Miss. You and I wish this show was more than two days a week. I'm saying it actually today's Today's we Jimmy. I'm a little much for five days a week Guy Right now. If I say Sam Syam it gets hit by a car. That's a little dark. Sam gets a better job by a car and they go. You can have their five days a week six.

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Ep. 2,845: Kevin Lee and Alexander Hernandez

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What's going on? Fillers not much, man. Having a stroke there. I'm good. How about you? How you been? I can't complain you ever. Nice holidays Christmas nears. And yeah, you know, can't complain putting everything into the right position. And you know as again odor in more into this game. I'm starting to just kinda let go at things and focus on what I can focus on. You know what I mean? Right. What thing I've noticed with you. Kevin is you're pretty good about separating yourself from from a loss at some point. I mean deal with it. I know it it's deep in your soul. And that's what I love about you because that's why I'm a huge fan because this means more to you than anything. You know what I mean? But once that's done whether that processes couple days or couple of weeks, I know that you know, how to live life. You know what I mean? And so I'm glad that you know, you're able to have a nice holiday season in two thousand eighteen just a new year. And you got goals, you know, and and maybe this'll be one of them years. You. Can hit three fights or or or two? I don't know. And just get you out there doing your thing. And and regrouping, well, I, you know, I been through this process before too. So it kinda I'm not going to say in a -sarily gets easier. But you just learn how to what matters don't matter. And in the long run I'm really in his game for a long long time in my head. So that's what I kinda keep I try to always just look for regardless. You know, you can look back and be upset about it. And just kinda see what you do right in what you did wrong. But I do that win lose or draw. Really? So for me. It's just the process is the same process is a lot more. You know, we kinda wakes you up in the middle of a little bit more at the end of the day is is kind of like the same thing. So that's kinda beauty about fighting is there's gonna be another fight the games is gonna keep going on. And and that's what I'm doing. I'm just gonna keep getting better at it in you know, that that's really ultimately. That's that's my only goal. I've never even when I started. This say I'm undefeated, or I'm going to be you know, nobody can beat me in an audit. I just always just trying to get my honest opinion about how I'm going to do versus a certain guy or how Phil do. And you know, I try and stay true to that. Yes, it ask a sensitive question. Yeah. We've always seen kind of the coach aside and how they deal with their fighter. Have you ever noticed? What your coaches go through like how they deal with ever seen the expression on on their luck or their process of you ever caught onto it. Yeah. You can definitely feel their energy for sure. And especially as you as you go through, you know, fighting so personally, so like is more personal. I think than than people realize so y'all kind of feel the same things almost in if your energy, I'm kind of feeding off of that. So yeah, I can kinda see it and everybody has their ways of whether a coach of fighter or, you know, your your significant other whatever it is. They've got their own ways of dealing with an and going through their ups and downs. You know, in matters just as much them as it does to me. So I kind of keep that in my head. But. Everybody deals with without. And that's why you have to make sure that you have the right people around you, and you have the right coaches, and you have the right team members that that day understand this to you know, they've been there before they they know how to keep pushing forward, and and keep trying to be better your process is different every time like how how long before you go back to your coach and say, all right? Let's regroup. Let's let's look at the tape with all that homes that take is different every time because it depends on the fight especially with this one. You know, where some of it was lost in the corner. You know, I felt like especially going into that fifth round active in toll something different in kind of life. It off that energy a little bit more. If there was been like yet, you've got to go out there and win this round for sure I felt like that would have changed the style of the fight. But you know, that's just me looking back and seeing what we can't get better at and how we can improve on our communication, you know. So I think every fight is different. And every you know, every situation is different too. And and I try to approach them different. But still with the same type of mindset of getting better with it. Will there be coaching changes? Or will you in your coaches, just change the approach? There's gonna be some coaching changes. Even in a last one. I had a guy in my corner for the first time, and you know, whenever you do that is is like you taking a big risk taking a gamble. You know, is is so is so much energy base in so much feed off the other people's energy to so so, you know, I do think that there will be some changes. I mean, there's gonna be some big changes coming up that I can't really talk about it book two weeks early right now. But it's coming up. Get my time. Your next time. I book heavenly, I'm gonna say you got new stuff coming up when he goes. Yeah. Man, a couple of weeks ago coup talk to you know, I don't want to go out there that that that is ain't gonna happen. But I I got some big plans in my head that that I'm kind of putting out there, and I'm gonna make sure I'd get them into fruition. And we got three guesses game. Go does it involve a move not Vegas? No, potentially. But not probably not Georgia. Staying bill. Another kid. No fuck. How we all radio. I don't want to say does it. Evolve passport because you may have already been there. But does involve going up north maybe? I mean was getting closer. But he got the closest get closer. But just the north part in kinda again, I, you know, hang out there that that just waiting see. And I feel like when we do get it off the ground. It's going to change the way that that imitate train at least works. So that's my. I wonder what that means. I'm leave it out there. The break when he tells it we've got two hours. All right. So Kevin Lee. I just wanted to tell you, you know, you'd be let's and Barbosa in April two thousand eighteen then he came back and got a win over, Dan Hooker. Now, he's gotta fight versus just engaging. And I believe it's a headliner about my point for bringing all this up is. Like, you said you never you never said you were going to be undefeated. But it's all about timing. You know what I mean? So a guy you beat has now taken a win and since then you took a loss and now he's already booked. So it just goes to show you how quick, you know, situations can change you know, what I mean? So all I can say is in two thousand nineteen go out there beat someone's ass. And then just start moving because it can only be one champ yet sir was going to like knock each other off. You know, what I mean along the way? And so now, you just got to be be there right at the right time to creep up and booms thing again. Plus, you really young. Yeah. Yeah. So Connors thirty now Habiba believes thirty now few of the other guy all's over thirty, you know, so Ferguson prefers thirty five thirty six point as the only one I think that might be a little older, but not thirty. So you still got time. And the good thing is like look at Tyron Woodley. He's. Mid thirties. He became champ like thirty three or something like that. We've got four titled of the best part of his career has now been being champ and defending it. He was there at the right time to be champ and to defend it. So there's been I can count many champions that have one and then they were gone, and that's it. So man, you got a long ways to go. You know what I mean, stay positive. I mean that that's all I keep into my head is is like you said, I the youngest and the division, and I still feel like I could take any of those guys out even now I mean, I I still feel like I'm gonna get that went back to I think we're gonna we're gonna eventually have the third fight. But, you know, even when I look at the fight I still I still learned a lot during that fight event. And I kind of answer some questions that I had about myself. So I'm gonna take all the positives in, you know, take the negative change that and then keep on moving forward. And and and this is what doubt among here, not even once once the judge. I mean, the judges say I lost if I really, but even once they did that s still the thought process that, you know, oh, it is it ain't gonna happen. Never crossed my mind is just a matter of time for me. And the good thing is time, we'll massage so as long as I stay getting better each day in day out stop, and you know, what's cool about all this is three or four years ago. When you first said it nine out of ten people be like, oh, come on. He's young. He hasn't really thought those guys yet. Now, it's the reverse three or four years later his life. You'll go on. Yeah. I believe you know, what I mean, there's still be a few doubters, but you've definitely proven those skills over over these last three or four years. Even coming on this show since you really really started taking on these main event spots and all that. So, you know, keep saying keep believing it in there's tons of fans of believe in it as well. And I said three three or four years from now, you know, you look back in in is going to totally different than now. I just felt like I'm still even with that fight. I still felt like I am proved on a lot of things. I just didn't fight the way. I normally fight. I didn't I tried to change up too much. You know, I I've always been one to try and do it all and I kind of want to be the most well rounded fighter in the game. But I just you know, I I fought as a southpaw backing up, you know, when normally I'm Orthodos always in your face kind of bully style. And, you know, even while fighting a different style than than is my natural fighting style. Answer some questions in there. And now, I'm kinda I'm kinda done playing around. You know, I'm I'm kind of done. I'm kinda done seeing what I need to do. Now. Somebody's gonna hurt like this. In my head that that's all it is happening now. So I don't care who it is. They they've approached me with some fights that didn't make like I just wasn't interested in and now. They they offer me Darren till on to event spot in in in London. Oh, so they wanted you to move welterweight. Yes. E-? That's that's the thing. I think they're trying to push me out the division. They they pretty much approach me. Like right after the fight in X me. What I'll go one seventy. I'm late. Really, you know, like this is where I started. This is where I'm gonna get this bell first. And then I'm gonna keep all moving on. So you know, I wasn't interested. I I'm a stay at one fifty five and and somebody's gonna get hurt. Was it a quick decision when they offered you just like, Nope. Yeah. I mean, I I slept on it for the night. But then when I woke up in the morning, I'm like still the same thing. You know? I don't I don't try and make decisions on the fly like that. But is still was kind of one two interesting. You know what I mean? It's just it's just so much work for me to be done at one fifty five. One fifty five has been the best division. Like, you say is so much that can be bouncing around in his so much. This guy can beat this guy on any given night that excites me more than than going up to to to welterweight kind of a long question. But just recently getting a loss in a stack division. You would agree that it's gonna take a while to get back. Right. Not a lot. But it's gonna take a bit that being said once they like. Say like your last three maybe last four have been five rounders you have to train more for them. It's tougher a guy like Josie Aldo he kind of made headlines about a month ago because he had said look if I know I'm not fighting for title right away. Then why am I gonna put myself through another five rounder? I've been doing that over and over and over. I don't wanna fight in the main event. I just wanna fight three rounds. Is that something you would consider because your body goes through a lot? There is something to that. And like, I say when they offered me there until spot that was kinda I oughta my head too is, you know, another another five rounder another main event. Now, the all the media and the president, you know, in in all the everything that goes into it is definitely a factor. They really don't compensate you shit. Either demands. I mean is just is just the real of it. But you know, I don't know each each fight is different. So so there's some guys that I would rather have five rounders some guys that were rather three rounder. You know, I felt like I feel like doing five rounders does get me ready for that championship fight any gives me that extra experience. You know, when you look at when you look at other other fires the divisions. You know, when when two meters Johnson was kind of at the top one twenty five he was smoking those guys because they were coming from three round prelims in never had that that that moment before you know, that that that that fi never even got five rounds outer outer a bag, and if you don't know that you can do it for sure then I feel like that is something a hampers you and I've gone five rounds a couple of times now. So when that when when that next title fight comes up or next that next opportunity than that that question won't be my head. So. You know, I feel each is different. I'm not gonna shy away from another five hundred if they offer it to me, I'll probably probably enjoy that a little bit more to be honest. But a three rounder will be kind of nice right now. How soon do you think that decision will tie into the news that you're talking about nano is completely separate? I mean, I wanna fight. So I wanna fight like if I could fight March Vegas, you know, March second or two. Well, I think that cars to stat already ex to be on that car. But you know, it's it's kinda everything's time in his game. Especially with the opponents, and I'm really giving a shot to anybody at one fifty five caught out. I'm like, I'll take somebody wait ranked. You know? I don't care who it is. And you know, nobody wanna raise their hand. You know, Michael Johnson. He stuck his hand up the other day and call me out on this. So I accept right away. I'm like, okay. Just tell me when and where to be and I'm on I'm near there's him. There's the Gregor Gillespie Kidd who look real good. You know, he ain't goes been. No, Tom calling nobody out, but he's fishing right now. Well, me too. On next to you know, we I don't know I'm trying to get in touch with his people while you out in the woods. And and see if I can track as down to well one last thing here, and then I'll stop trying to be that guy that's cheering up because I know you don't need it. But we've had so many debates Selassie weeks three about this division. It's a stack division, but until Nevada State Athletic commission rules next Tuesday. What's going to happen with even like at a standstill? Anyway, you know, let's just say you had one and Al had lost the fight. Then what like I think you can admit this Tony seems to be next. But he has to listen every day to the possibility that they may rematch Connor, and he'll be if in win they come off their suspension or services pension. And then you've got a guy that doesn't play as who's been making noise also going. Hey, you know. Yeah. So it's like you don't get caught up in it. Anyway. So not to say that losses happen are ever good. They're not I realize that. But the timing of it can be important. So all that gets sorted out. You know, like you said fight somebody in March or April, maybe one in the summer, and then bam right back in the mix. You know? And and here's another thing in now, you would win a title at twenty seven you wanted to win one at twenty five. Would you have been able to handle it at twenty five? Would you have been mature enough? Or did you have been getting in trouble here? And since city, she would you. You have been able to defend it. You know, what I mean, you gotta you gotta be ready to be champion too. That's true. That's true. And you know, like I say it's a long term game. So yeah. As this whole situation is playing our everybody else. I kinda came to I kind of came to the realization. I'm like, okay. There's certain things that that my focus just can't be on. And it's just like is just wasted time and energy. You know? Yeah, there there's big fights still out there. You know, I feel like counter in could be that can't make that happen again. I don't even think they would you know. It's just it wouldn't make more sense it made more sense to to kind of build it. And then make it big where we're now you might think that that McGregor really got another chance if they do an immediate rematch. I mean, how many times they done that in the guy come back and win. You're right. Exac, okay yourself. You know, it would make more sense for me to fight Conor right off this. You know, I mean, if you talking about competition wise, we both are coming off losses. You know, who's gonna bounce back and make sense to top five guys going at it. But then I'm like, okay. I ain't go focus on not gonna do me. And I and just get better. I think they probably will make Connor cowboy happen. Just because that's a good fight. I wanna see the fight. You know, I I wanted to fight cowboy. Transition. As is gone. I'm like, okay. I I'll watch cowboy in McGregor too. So I'll go ahead, and let them have it. And either way. My days. Go come like, they're getting it, and you're kind of backing off a little bit. Because I mean, the because everything starts with the fans, you know, everything comes from from the bottom up and even me as the fan in me. I kinda wanna see that fight too. It don't make a whole lot of sense really competition wise, I feel like, but I could see them trying to get Connor a win in them. Not wanting me to get Connor. So you know, I I kind of let him have it. And I'm like, all right. You know, like I said, I just only focus on what I could focus on. I'm like, okay. However else y'all wanna play y'all play. I'm going in. I in just focus on me based on what you're telling us. I'm assuming you think Conor will be cowboy easy worker. Tough night is going to be tough. It's gonna be tough, especially with the. I it depends on how Connor plays meat. You know cowboy I feel like is. It's it's always a lotta hit games going on and Connors good at them. So it depends on if he got his Mojo back if he feel like he can he can get in his head, and he can like make some things around that don't necessarily mean, you gotta come out and talk a bunch of shit and talk about his people and talk about you know, everything is just how he plays him in a media as the fight gets closer and closer. Able to really see how to fight don't play out. But, you know, my initial reaction is this is going to be a it's gonna be a decent fight. But but McGregor should take it out of Connor can't get that much more lip Brazilians coming after Russians people do rodeos on what the Cowboys. You can't go anywhere without looking back. All right. This is interesting. Yeah. So I guess we're covering some things here. Do you think? So you think when they come off? In fact, give me your opinion. What do you think they're gonna get in terms of suspension and fine? You know, I think. I think they'll probably get like a nine months spending or something like that said put him back both in a summertime could be. We'll put that up because of Ramadan you up with. He's only fight once this year, maybe late this year, and they're going to try and make that the Connor Faisal. Maybe you know. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna try and do Connor cowboy. April some like that try and get them one at Belk again in August. And then maybe see if they can put push title fight later in a year when it makes sense to be on the same card. Cars is nice to have that insurance. Because it gives something happens someone's right right in there too. Yeah. We'll we'll see how this whole thing. Play out. Like, you said doesn't poor still out there to which I'm calling for that fight too. I mean, I think that'd be a great fight me in him. You know is just if they wanna make happen if and if you want to accept it. So, you know. Yeah. If they do if they do Connor cowboy I on my playing co main event Mia Dustin underneath that. So if gets a year, I'm like should he be stripped and should that'll thing. Open up AB ridiculous. If you got a year year would be. To me that was same like, they want it. You know, somebody got into commission ear was like. Yeah. Go ahead and give them a year. You know what? I mean. Like, they wanna keep them on the shelf and keep them with the belt. They definitely not going to strip them. But a year would be ridiculous. If you got it. I mean at mostly should've got like six months, I think that probably push to non, but you know, it wasn't really that big of a deal when you when you look at it. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was. But it wasn't. You know what I mean? Nobody really guard. Go ahead goes the argument him, and I had yesterday was nobody got hurt. The why do we have to wait for somebody to get hurt because you know, the second happens because with a chair of a sudden we're all going to go. What were we thinking? And we come down on the next guy. Right. Why not just get them now? But even that being said, I don't know if that punishment because those two guys sold two point five reviews. So in honestly, feel like nobody really wanted other than even if there's a commission official just hate this damn anyway, I feel like everyone the commission wants them to fight again. Those guys wanna fight again, the see once the fighting in anime fans want them to fight again. Like, I don't know an M. He's right. And I said before Mark Ratner said it, no one got her. Luckily, the UCS presence Nevada's finest were there. I know what you mean send a message like the NBA when the palace the mouse and the palace came out you remember that the big fight that broke out. Two thousand five or so they went into the into the stands for his hands got on Rulli. Yeah. Exactly. And so the suspensions were so heavy, and and I don't I'm not sure if that's what initiated it. But have you ever noticed when an MBA fight breaks out? You can't step on the court either that or you're right away missing a game. And if you missed the game hurts your team, you don't get the play these guys love the play, and you don't get paid. So they have strict someone's like an overreaction. So I see what you're saying what the overreaction for the fighters though. It's more for like, okay. Yeah. Because let's be honest if that's the tuition where to come up again. I mean who was Ben Wallace run our tasks and a lot of those guys that came up again where they got heated. They're gonna fight. That's just in them their competitors. It's going to happen again. It's more. I think to tell the fans we're looking out for you. You got your brother while your brother confined? So your mom's at your shirt and somehow somebody trampled over her Khabib accidentally Obote hermit. He would feel like shit. Right. So, but I think the thing is with this situation. Lease it DA kinda show off the power of the you have to keep the people safe because nobody got hurt you know, you had you had six or seven professional fighters in their Tron abroa- in the crow and nobody got hurt. Nobody even really got shove. Or nobody got you know, I never liked spilled out. And I think that was enough to where they kind of got that point across you know, like, you can go all hail can break loose. And then, you know, still nothing really happened. You know what I mean? The only thing that I could see a suspension or something doing is is kind of trying to deter people from doing that in the future. You know, same thing with climate over the cage and doing audits if they suspend somebody. Okay. The next guy's gonna look at it. He's like, I ain't gonna do that. But I mean, I don't think nobody's really looking at that. Speaking of somebody who do some wild shit and really don't give a fuck about it. I'm not really like looking at a as that's going to turn me or make me do it more. You know what I'm saying? If they don't get nothing because they sold two point five million view at the end. And and and if somebody from the prelims or something that they got that much clout where they can go in and try and start a brawl just because could be didn't get that big of a punishment or something then found out real quick. You know, it's on the heels of what happened in Brooklyn with the boss all that. And all that. And then a lot of people just didn't like that. The you have C was used the come down the say don't do that. Or you crazy shouldn't be doing that. But then they go. Hey, let's promote the fight with that. And I feel like the second that they did that when they showed the promotion for that. They can't complain about anything you guys do at that point. I never got that argument though. You know, I it's like it is what it is. Like, what are you gonna do any Nord and just pretended didn't have? No, I'm saying do it. You just can't complain about it afterwards. That was in there, and they use that to fight. And you did something crazy at the fight. How are we going to come down on you and say, you shouldn't you would look them back in the end goal. And what are you promoting it for right? Right, right. I mean. Speaking of my. The words out. I have a terrible memory, right? But for whatever reason didn't you take Connor to win that fight over Herbie. Ideally. Yeah. Yeah. No. I called that one way wrong. You know, I still. You know, but right out the gate show. You a few things that like first round could have been disaster. But the actually was able to minimize some of the damage before we got into round I really thought that he lost the fight like the first fifteen seconds right win when he took that first shot in instead of pulling out in instead of staying tall. And and just pulling his leg out Connor went down and tried to to row with them almost to kinda like prove to beat that. He can do it. And a fa- me like is just it was it was just too arrogant. You know, what I mean is to like instead of fighting his fight. And I'm saying this and then in my last fight, I fight mafi. So, you know, take it how you want. But I mean, it is what it is. I'm a call it like, I see it. And he didn't fight the way that that. I expected them to any didn't fight. He just didn't fight his fight. You know, he lost it in a for fifteen seconds really feel like he could have. His, but I'll have to watch it again. Yeah. He goes for a tight ways around is like a reverse tight ways. And he goes for the Yankel. And then as soon as he does that could be just pops his head out in in Connor actually almost got it for second. And he tried to kind of dump them off to the side, except, you know, he just don't got the graph skills like that. And he might have grappled with a lot of good guys. And you know rolling over there rolling around with Dylan in August. And think that he can roll all of a sudden. But when you do is like, okay, you you you you kind of killing yourself there. You know, what I mean, if you just stick to what you supposed to do, you know have a little bit more humility, and and go out there and fight toe fight then you would have won. But you know, and I'm saying that in the next I don't fight my. So, you know, I'm kinda talk ship. You didn't fight you fight an Yaas fight. But have you ever wanna fight not fighting your fight? I'm not saying that you felt like you got lucky do what you were supposed to. Still worked out in in his still instill work. Pretty good too. I'm trying to think like a great example of you know, when when I fought you frame Escott Darrow that was kind of one of those times those first time I kind of switched in in south on a fight in our really tried to fight on the outside and still ended up winning. If I m when it around where I thought, you know, where I was really trying something new I mean in ain't nothing wrong with the new in a fight. You know, hey, if you want to go out there, and you really feel like you could take a beat down. Then then, you know, do what you do about me. But you know, is like that just wasn't what I was expecting. You know what I'm saying? I know we got maybe a break coming up or so so maybe this'll be more of a tease you tell me Georgia while we're on the the breakdown talk. I can't remember what you had as far as a Tony could be because I think that a lot of the hardcore people in the know, we all know the history. But also, we all can't deny the importance that matchup has to happen. But I also think like you said dust employee is ri- right in that picture. So in that love triangle. If you will my opinion concept in my hand bit, I feel like it's a real interesting triangle where one guy has a has an advantage over another more than the other two have. But I'm really curious to see how how that how that little love. Triangle breaks down for you. I don't know if we will save we come back. We'll take right now. It's junkie radio and fight nation channel Ninety-three stay close. We'll be right back. We got you have see lightweight Kevin Lee in the house. To the fight then the ring announcer. Get this is your home for all things combat theories XM fight nation channel ninety three and on your phone with the Sirius XM app. Alexa, play fight nation on Sirius XM nation on Sirius XM's for one of the best fighters on this planet are lots of ways to hear Sirius XM at home including on devices with Amazon. Alexa. Learn more at Sirius XM dot com slash Alexa. They were obstructed by air liens in return for rating, all this knacks. They are gorgeous George goes. And this is m e junkie radio. You orig- Kevin McVeigh's, right? Digging the walkout saw just mobile. Yes, I need energy from the talk the whole let's see the played a little bit. Josh let's together. I'm a man. Walking through the tunnel. And there's a way it's got to be a slow walk to. Yeah. You gotta be looted up. I'd have to go back and see you do it again. It's a slow it. I did it. Anyway. I got like, you know, which is good. You know, you either want like really good or really negative and kind of like a mix of both of but twenty shower, Twenty-one savage number one album in country. So really, yeah. Wow. Who's that? Were we didn't know do you. Remember it was Drake. I jaco. Jay. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah off, but I never heard of this last guy. So not only heard of it. I would have never known. He was number one guy. Boy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm putting you on Twenty-one savage. I mean, that's all I just go check out his album. I if you like a real real smooth real real kind of calm. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let me get this out. It's any all star weekend. And Sirius XM has you covered tonight at nine eastern here. The two thousand and nineteen S A P NHL all star skills competition on Sirius XM L network radio. Channel ninety one streaming on your phone and at home on series except connected devices speakers where you can see that. I was going to say there's been a theme lately. Too of like, an I'm biased I'm a nineties guy. But a lot of people doing throwback songs. I'm trying to look it up with Anthony Smith came out too. But he. Yeah. There we go. And that always that always that always gets me, you know, as far as far as Jonah. That's also my favorite part of that Jon Rao to those years, I'm bias again. But you know, I think it's more forgiving the beats and stuff. I want the whole arena to fuel the song. Okay. Not just a certain race age gender. You know what? I mean. I want the whole arena. Have you Papa now? I and I would do my research to make sure that I still like it. I mean, I just can't go out there and do put Katy Perry. Just because everyone's going to it or whatever I have to feel it. But time also want everyone to feel have noticed. I noticed that just, you know, people just love in all suddenly gravitates, you, you know. And now that again, then again fighters go into some of them go into get paid others go in to build their fan base. I would love I would like them both honestly because I feel like the fan base can also get you paid. But that that's what I would be looking for a little bit more. All right. Okay. This is the way I look at it. If you have a good walkouts on you can even turn the people that don't like you. Yes. Fuck. What time is Jones, and Alex the mall, or you know, what I mean, what time were they and what time Amanda, whoever you're just sitting there at some point. Because most fans are just like I am sitting there just waiting. You know, hardcore fans are into it. But hardcore fans like twenty percent of the arena, the rest are the the Casuals. But yeah, you're right. If you can turn them on like that with a song your walkout, your your post, post-fight speech. You know, you're the one that's gaining traction. Guess what you've seen notices that? Good. I remember came Alaska's and Brock listener, everyone in that Rena, not everyone, but the majority wanted capable ask because it was loud. Wind Brock walked out to enter Sandman. A lot of them people that were going Cain yet day. All were bombing. There were into it. They were into the walkout sign of a good one. I say this to a fighter that you fight someone in Brazil now again, I might be operating off the nineties stereotype, but Brazilians apparently love their medal and they love iron maiden. And I'd come out to iron made in hollow be. Yeah. They're really Bailey. I like even like Pantasma, they'd have some of their biggest concerts at turnouts in Brazil, and this one here and the the theme to you know, you're kind of your walk into the Gallo is is the music. So it's kind of a very humbling kind of theme. And then it something maybe the I still get the boom out bomb. Oh, hey, but they'd be putting their lighters up. And you'd be cool and VO. Yeah. Exactly. Now this guy he's coming. He's coming to party. Oh, I always pick something that I'm filling in. It's always haunt filling at the moment. And I feel like even if even with the last light it wasn't a big song yet. So not a lot of people even in audience. Didn't know what it was. But if I'm feeling it than most people are going to be like, okay. Like in a in a going to turn Alosha Zam? They wanna know what the song is that gets me up a little bit more than kinda showing your own Astaldi showing your os on that you already know. And I'm like, what are your phone you? You know, you you sit in at home played issue. No. Opposites? This just you know, you can argue how much of a piece of pie factor is. But but that is a factor that issue that does translate our producer. Josh he has some Wayne on his Josh, I was just curious. And maybe that's because I'm a troll, and I can't fight to save my life. But wouldn't it? Is there ever any thought? Kevin you guys maybe to like troll your opponent. Just come out to like some horrendous song just to piss them off. Especially if you walk second, maybe our no. No. I don't know if. I'm trying to think of of an example of somebody trying to do I mean coming. Coming out with headphones. Yeah. You saw you really playing it at the same time like go. You know, what I mean us either ahead or behind recently, some fighters taking them off? And I'm like the whole, you know, you're feeling. I mean, you should've I don't know. What do I know? I'm not the why knowing doing all, right. Real quick before the break. You wanted to hear a breakdown from Kevin was it. Habib antonio. Who do you see beating with Tony Khabib and doesn't play? I really didn't put Dustin in there. And I still don't even though I I mean, he still he can beat anybody on any given night summaries. I still don't even put them in there. Even know it'd be a great FIFA me necks. I don't necessarily see them. I I definitely don't see him beaten could be. You know, if say who beats who I don't see Dustin really be neither one of the guys to be honest, which I mean, I think he might get Tony now, and I'm actually changing my prediction on what will happen with that. Tony into be fight. What's your? What's your thought? Tony would just you know, he outworked them. But in that last fight Tony just didn't seem like the same, man. He didn't seem he seemed like a shell himself. So I think the fight just goes totally different on the other side. I thought Habib would be Tony. But I thought Tony look great against Pettus. You didn't think he did really not all said, that's. So you see? Same. I see the same movement. Any better? I mean, his foot work is a agility. He he and then he. And then he took it to Pettus. Well, yeah, I thought it's cardio might suffer or the or even the hesitancy on planting on the knee or exploding off the knee or or anything like that. I mean, I thought it's too soon. What's he doing, you know? And if anything I thought he's looked better than in some of the other fights where he's kind of doing stuff, but I feel like a lot of it's neither wasted. Or either five moves ahead of what I am thinking. You know, I just didn't like his like his movement, especially backing up in Pettus never wanna really come forward, and he didn't throughout the whole fight. But could be busy and going. You know, could be they're almost going to meet in the middle. And it's going to be who who wins that little battle and could be going better backwards Tonia. So. As I'm looking at it. I just see could be probably wearing about. And I don't think he he might. I don't know if you'll stop them or not. But I I see him beaten most entrepot, I wanna find some middle ground on the Tony Ferguson thing because I've heard this argument a lot middle ground on the Kevin George thing. We're disagreeing on. Here's the thing. Can we agree with this? Yeah. I think a lot of people get lost up on whether Tony Ferguson had a good performance for a good performance for somebody who came up a major injury. I think a lot of people look at it and go, wow. For a guy coming off a big injury. Like that. He looks pretty damn good. And then I think other people are looking at it and going. Yeah. But he took a lot of damage and had you not if you can just take away the fact that he had that major injury. You might be saying he needs a short as defense or stuff like that. I think we a lot of people got lost up. And just how amazing it was that he came back from a big injury like that it was able to perform in that fashion. Yeah. There's definitely the. Say there's definitely that factor for sure that that exist goes, but I'm more on on. Kevin Lisa, and I'm a big Tony Ferguson supporter. I think he's dark Orson the division. I think my prediction lineup with same as Kevin any. Although right now, I'll probably still ride with Tony and spoiler. If I did a, you know a breakdown on the match up and to make a pick. But it's not as confident I think for a lot of the same reasons. Kevin did now in Tony defense is to be expected. I don't expect him to show confidence and exploding and certain things. But I think something and obviously, Kevin, you know, way more qualified, but what I think you were looting to in those in those in those wrestling transitions, obviously going to be the better wrestler. Even even the best version of Tony you're picking Tony you've got to concede that he's quote, unquote, the better wrestler, but Tony it's at work. And I'm like, you said creating the scrambles, but. Yeah. I would argue it's easier to strike injured. Or maybe be a more of a positional player if you're injured or you're not confident of body part? But if you're gonna scramble scramble heavy approach Tony has against one of the best wrestlers everything has to be working hundred percent confident in that kind of says. Factor in your your your pick there. Yeah. And maybe I'm maybe I'm being a little bias here. Because I do feel like the best Tony already. Right. And just when I saw him in last fight. I just kind of even removed that he's fighting Pettus. And I just look at the way too. He's moving in the way or what he's doing how he's looking. I don't necessarily think that that could be a better wrestler. You know, I I think people don't under estimate that in a lot of times. Tony kinda has this weird style of going with the flow. But like you say does have that scrambler style where you got to keep that up. And that's the way to be could be just keep moving to keep moving and keep going from position to position a position if you let him subtle the than than he's just going to take the round and he's going to eventually add those up against you. And I just don't see I just don't see the movement there for him to keep going position position. But I mean, you know, I'm still gonna watch the fight if they make the fi if they make that happen it should happen. I mean when we look at it from. All angles from sport in perspective for entertainment, whatever that's the next fight that that should happen. But you know, it ain't looking for Tony from all right? We gotta take our last break. You're listening to EMMY junkie radio on fight nation. Townley three stay close will be our back. I wanna play a couple audio clips from may not necessarily an interview. But be number off the UC lightweight champion was in a setting. They're taking some Q A and the ad some thoughts there about when he might fight again, you know, after the NFC hearing, and if he thinks contradictory mentioned. Betrayed you have to sleep drink. You have to do what they say your life will be a lot better. Here are gorgeous sin goes. All right. So we talked a little bit about this. Exciting UFC, lightweight division. That includes Kevin the are co here for the show, of course, even America made off McGregor tall cer- Onis back. Tony Ferguson, Dustin play list, literally goes on and on. But it's a little bit of standstill things will get cleared up at a hearing for the Nevada Athletic Commission, which Habib number made off and Conor McGregor kind of plead their case to not get find a lot and not get suspended for a long time. But we'll see what happens next Tuesday. So that should be pretty big news. And then maybe that'll shake things out will realize what's what at least in the first half of two thousand nineteen. However, we do have some audio Habib courtesy of submission radio. They had put it out on their Twitter handle, I saw that. And Josh was able to scoop it up. Now says here he doesn't know when he'll be able to fight again until the NFC hearing set the that's that's kind of what he's clear. Or not. But let's hear Josh do. Cut number one. Please. Nothing coming to wait next week, all like end the this month and login Haganah make decision about Russia. Maybe they give me nine month or one year by the mall. We'll see when they make decision how many monthly and I give suspension, and then they're gonna make. Now. Now. Remember Ramadan is observed this year. I stated this yesterday from like may fifth I believe to early part of June's about one month. So. Realistically, I think you've see would wanna feature Habib before them. There is a pay per view on April thirteenth and April thirteenth would be just outside of six months from the fight that they had it UC twenty nine this past October six or seven so it's a it's a small window. All right. The next paper of you is like may eleventh twelfth thirteenth by then people be observing Ramadan. So I'm hoping that they give them six months retroactive see twenty nine now, the UC would be in the top position of whether they promote a fight or not while the guys under technical suspension knowing that he will come off without it'd be so ideal to have him a fight then. And then revisit a second fight sometime in the fall because again, this is stack division. You know, what I mean, there's some great fighters. A lot of them are just kind of in a holding pattern and waiting now. Here's his thoughts. Cut number two. Please on Habib whether he thinks contradictory match. Heavy my management, you know, and everybody thinks the difference is that if you like my father. The thing different management thing different while commission to make decision. We a sit with my whole team and make decision will the next at right now. It's like if you ask me, of course, he is. Shuten much because he loves you know, he tap. And. It wasn't. Dominating in every aspect and. I know. So you there you have from the champion thinks nine months to a year, which now puts them pass Ramadan. And maybe he can fit to fight in the second half of two thousand nineteen but he doesn't think Conor should get a rematch. Even though that would probably be his biggest payday. What would you think? What do you think? Kevin. I mean, you you pretty optimistic thinking he's gonna fight more than once this year. I mean, even before he was champ to be, you know, you ask me do I still love I could be really never likes to fight. You look at 'em. He just don't fight a lot. And then each fight he's gonna kind of pick and choose to. So I think he only once this year at the end of the year. You know, it depends on who against you know. I I don't think they're not gonna wanna fight Tony. But that should be the fight to make. And then let the rest of us kind of figure out everything that's happening. But I'm kinda with him. You know, the Connor definitely don't deserve a rematch. He shouldn't get one. I really don't even see how. I mean. Yeah, it's going to be a big pay per view again. But it could be a lot bigger too. You know what I mean? I if they played it right now. So I don't necessarily see see much of the motivation going door to media rematch. Don't make sense. All right. We're at the top of the hour break. So we'll be back in about sixty seconds. Or so our guest co host for the show is Kevin Lee follow him on Twitter at Motown, Tom. And when you do that, you'll take a peek and see who might be next opponent. They've been terminate at each other on Twitter so get in there and follow both fighters. Grab back. Join us on the other side of the tracks this theories ex-team by nation channel ninety three. Hey, everybody. Thanks for listening to them. I may junkie radio. I wanna take this time to let you know about our producer Danny show. It's called popping off and at airs live twice a week. Wednesdays nine PM eastern, six PM Pacific and Thursdays. Eight pm eastern five PM Pacific. You can find the show. If you missed the live show, you can find the recording on itunes Spotify or YouTube the following day. Check it out. It's a lot of fun, and you get to see a little bit more of our producer Danny's personality and my phone just rang in the background Salter. Popping off with us in studio. We have Tom pain from Walking Dead. You got real socked in the bay. The show is very very in. You thinks it's very like rough house e and eight no stuntman hanging around everyone on the show just jumps in guessing vote. And that was my rude awakening to the show being chased around a field by Newman, and then him grabbing me and touch me in the face as a saying that everyone his when they first joined the Woking Devon is set in this kind of like just doing Colt. Welcome to the working watch live on the. Youtube stream. Heaven hell and anything in between to get to you. You wouldn't be safe. Anyway, if I was managing. And that's that bowl. That's true. I've went up against people you could pull a gum a managing. I'm coming forward. Shoot style. If you don't kill me. Stupid. Today. Signers see me. During the commercial break. They were probably talking smack about their next guest. But now they're going to act like they're all cool with him here. They are tours. That's going to get us in trouble on day. One some moody fighter. It's going to be like. Ship come on. All right. The next guy is is real cool cat enjoyed covering him as risen through the UC lightly ranks, and you know, things have gone way. Most of the time. However in his last fight, he did take a loss to Donald Surani. Although I really standing, you know, taking a few steps behind and watching as a media guy and as a fan I felt he hit a lot of check marks on fight week. And I'm really glad he's doing this interview. Again, these these losses are tough, you know, and and so credit to Alexander Hernandez. Our next guest for coming on the show where really anxious to talk to him. Hey, how's it going Alexander? You know, not the words give the sudden center, but yeah, doing all right? How you with? We're doing great, man. Welcome back to EMMY junkie radio young with George goes. And Dan, and we also have you've see lightweight Kevin Lee as our co host for the day. And so I wanted to just keep going on what I was saying. I really loved your build up during the week. I think you did what it took. And all of a sudden, even though you guys weren't in that Komen events slot. A lot of people were talking about your guises fights. And that's what I wanna see because a lot of fighters get lost in the shuffle. And you made sure you didn't now at the end of the fight. You went out there, you competed. You had your moments, and even though things didn't go your way thought you took some time to decompress chill out collect your thoughts. And I thought you put a very classy Instagram post up talking giving praise to Donald throw any but also talking about how you learn something valuable in defeat. I'm telling you, that's what a man does right there and give you props. Should have definitely taken away from that. Right. And so tell me, you know, you feel like you learned tactics wise, the mental approach wise that you said you learned a lot about fighting. But maybe give us a little bit specifics of where you learn the most in this loss. Yeah. Now going out a lot of us. And that pokes to go out there. I feel God's in just talking to fucking talk talk. We hear my voice or not push out my ass when everything I say, I believe in the fullest. And I went out there. One hundred thousand percent sure that was going around I'm still baffled the outcome but cocaine with it. But I, you know, I believe to my deepest extent of my core that I was going to demolish running win that fight. And I realize you know, I've watched the five seven times cents in watch it, and I see. She where experience over came much nasty. You know, I I I went in there. You know, sure, I'll kill in the first washing that fight. I had I shots beginning heeded a this job of rolling with a hit this huge too. In the beginning. I almost reflected on too much like okay eight that pretty well. And he kept pressing like a seat in his is a sense of. I mean, the not now like his firefights by could see him kind of old this heels a little bit and start to question things question of self in just I instead of sitting back and being patient after about minute three. I should've sat back come to be more patient let the shots come. I had this this idea my head. I just had a I keep giving x one long agreement. Let's get the next one. And I am where I pressed. He was patient. I to my demise. I gave up shots gave up. Four shots from went there. Instead of picking the ones that could have been readily available had I had played a smarter game. No more tax full game. So Assad exposing myself given shots clinch game open in that was kind of the edge in the fight with the good elbow. The I, and when you see, you know, you see somebody start leaking. It's like this primal, primal instinct in in in drilling starts coming and you could taste blood. We made I like while the fuck I just gave the edge. And he knew it too saw. I didn't I didn't stop stop bringing in. And just assure slowdown at times. I got him on a seal got moving, and I had I had it my hands. And I just oppressed. My own demise foam sword. So is everything to take out of their kind of law. That's got one out. But you know, I kinda hit this all sense of now, you go back and rewire wire, and and be patient in mobile. Well, gun control. And sometimes you're in there for me, especially it's like a moving six seconds for every one reality. Second like washing a final by. Glow down young man like calm. The fuck down do chill the fuck out of that. It's like it's frustrating. I it sucks because I know I had that fine the bag, and I should have to my immature experience. You know? I look rather I expected to put the cherry on the cake. You know, like you said that whole week who's a beautiful build up. And I felt I felt everything again, I'm not just talking on my fucking ask. You know? I feel it. I know it to be true. And and I wanted to there too much building the allure of these guys going to get on the fourth for us lay down the plate and that fucked came to fight and he did follow the best thrown only other. I can pick and by eating other. But I think even objectively speaking he brought it where where the old old him would have broken or stiffened up soccer lava shots stuck with it. And he he tried his patience where ravage impatient. And so he didn't have the job in stuck in current. Insight there because I feel like a lot of young fighters have also had that early success, and they feel indestructible. And then a veteran may check him. But you know, you go back and learn, but you get a lot of experience. Luckily, guys, this didn't happen in ten seconds or twenty seconds. He actually got to share the octagon for some some got some cage time, we call it. So. Again. Thank you for opening up like that. I wanna watch the fight again. Now, knowing exactly what you're telling me here, but still. Google in may and been a string that motherfucker and said about any times and I'm wash God. Yeah. You'll see pass player. Broke out or whatever. Viruses, or whatever. All right. Does what do you have for Alexander Hernandez? Alex, those sentiments at George shared at the very beginning of the interview, a lot of people thought the same thing, we were all in all of just the way you handled yourself and all and all before and after but that being said what about like Dana, why the matchmakers did they have any words to share with you along those lines and even Cowboys running himself. Disappoint. I didn't get a stick around. You know, New York's pretty critical dancing everything they fund the off and they made a point before. And that there should be doctors on sign stop. And then afterwards, you know. I was I was there. And they just like they need to pull me aside and pulled me to the back, and I'll see, you know. Bad that I wasn't even there in the fucking cage. They announced it they look die that goes missing in action or something. And so, you know, they pulled me aside, and and I'll just back and I needed stitches over the from the elbow. But otherwise, I was just kind of like, you know on the hospital. I feel fine obviously hitting your little nauseous settles and whatnot. Like just some argon, and I'll be fine and New York, and so gone a little boss went to the back way some time at the hospital. I did have some fractures in my nose. And I my little Bill I'm already just shy of gorgeous. Again, I feel like I'm pretty close to it. So I did heal fast. But I didn't get a talk to anybody in the the back, Donald or I dollar, but I didn't get a talk to, you know, anybody in again really expected we talked to me didn't get done, and I'll wasn't one you know, where my where my like condolences where you now. I wasn't looking. I didn't expect anything from anybody. I just you know, will stop the fucking. The couple of myself thing he gets the next one. I'm just trying to Charles face. Don't get back to the next thing. That's all thinking about. Donald has had a little bit of a resurgence in his career. But he's kind of even said it himself. There's not that much time left on that career. Do you feel like you're paths could cross again, like the spike could ever happen? Another time. You so fucking sweet. Well, no. And if it does if it doesn't understand why wouldn't the no matter what it was learning lesson. And if it if it wasn't this one it would have been the next one because he the approach I had to change in. I mean, the mental coach me going in there. And I said it not you know, that post you referenced earlier the best and worse than maybe ever happened to me was that got to second knockout because I go in there, and I just expect to execute executed there, and I know fucking wholeheartedly. I know I'm capable of it. But when it doesn't happen. It's like okay now, we gotta find I start questioning and I start forcing and I start growing impatient. And that's that's rookie ship needs to change in. I see it in easier to say than to do. But the most aware person, I know, honestly, I think I'm cognitively above any of these guys. And I think that there's anybody can make these fucking just went. Me. I didn't see myself being the man I am by now and just to get the next level. No, I could fuck and do it. It's just it's just gonna be you know, the amount in a hurdle. But I wish I wish I got this one I, but yeah, I'll get to where I need to be. I know I know has begun Alexander Hernandez. You see lightweight is our guest. Here's coming off a loss recent loss to Donald ceremony, and we're reflecting on. It's all right. Dan, Tom, what do you have for Alexander Hernandez? Hey, alex. I always love hearing you break stuff down, and I'm joined even more listening breaks up down, you know, post even when things, you know, didn't necessarily go your way increases my respect for you. But let me ask you, you know, obviously, it's not your guys jobs to to worry or even change the minds of fans or or this. But you know, maybe maybe if Kevin wants to he can weigh in after this, but I see him in a similar boat where you know, when you talk a big game. And then you deliver like for example Conor McGregor. They call you mystic MAC. And this and that, but it's a fight. They all can't just go your way how you predict obviously. And when it doesn't obviously the fans again, not your not your guys responsibility to change their opinion on this. But yes, they're fickle. Right. And they come back on you. And I guess I'm asking you this, Alex, obviously, you made great statement a great presence for yourself with the, you know, in the press conference leading up maybe because a Surani being a fan favourite or just because of the outcome. You know, people criticize and say, oh, you know, the trash talk, but again back to your point and his whereabouts back to you where it doesn't make you. You know, obviously, we know from media interviewing fighters, it doesn't make you a bad person. Just because you're quote, unquote, talking trash or putting on a show and on the second part at the end of the day. What what matters you still believe that? You're you're the best and you need to kind of what you're touching on here. My my any of these things. You know that that fight taught me feels like everything musher shit. Did teach me doubt myself. You know, I'm not going to go in there and US fucking confident said that again a hundred percent Serrano is gonna win that fucking fight. And I believe that in the next five people. I know I am capable not going to go in there. Fucking doubt myself. I'm certainly not gonna approach this legend of do like a fucking fan. I'm not gonna talk in stroke ego, pinned the cowboy idea going in there in this, man. I'm preparing to kill him. That's how I think. So the the thought of like approaching something like quote, humble excite never been on this platform before you never stood over standing in. Sure. Shit on it takes a champion. So it's like the idea of changing any of that. Oh, absolutely not. I believe everything I say I say for a purpose. It's. I it's it's not just like to my own shit or myself talk, and the ignorance beyond people to believe that like they draw themselves in more because the ship and I'm saying because original it's like shut the fuck up, man. And just just enjoy the show respect the show. But but don't talk attorney in you know, certainly online right now and like said Kevin experienced everybody fucking does. It's like a cesspool of mediocrity online people talking like, it doesn't matter the type of general opinion, they sway the move in Mussoorie so far from being finished. Just a this. This is just adds to it. This is bills will Minson, and I'm gonna I'm gonna come back when it's also done you'll see just just part of it part of the journey. Hey, absolutely. And in the spirit of not seeing things, you know, or at least the public not seeing things in quite so much black and white may be getting into more specific to your situation. Like, you said, you're not gonna approach Sony like a fan we've seen what happens and we've also seen people have success. Against Surani when they tried to get into his head or aren't too pleasant with them. So not in your defense, but just maybe kind of peeling back the curtain if you don't mind was that part of the strategy with all that with with that talking. I in bravado, not that you lack in the first place, but was there strength. Receive of their loss. And that's just talking about me because of not going to be shy about what I think I'm capable of. Now, wasn't bastardising Charlotte at his wife or anything like that. It's just a matter of fighting. That's just plain and dry like that. It does help the fact that he falters at that generally shit in on Saturday. He did a great job opposing self. I saw a thought it. But he yeah. I it certainly was also mind that God, we're just going to break this guy that much easier because of the mental offer going in just expect every time I see my opponents where to be an altercation, and I'm not trying to go out of my way to spill a game or anything. It's just the way it is if they break they break and Surani traditionally breaks this time, he was very very foster Thursday press conference at saw fighting he came in and what I thought he can feed it. But I don't think he was competing in hindsight. Now, I think he was just trying to relax as much as possible. So he didn't get as worked up as he did on Thursday, and he come in loose and comfortable on Saturday. The mandate. Fucking good did your and they seem to be beyond his old self of ten TV have again, shown them when he was patient is inpatient and Dow with a fucking lesson. I was to learn, you know. All right now. I don't wanna do according transition or anything, but we have a fellow light. We here in studio with us. He always keeps it pretty real. Kevin. I saw you kind of like, you know, when when I was talking you were it seemed like you are under either understanding or who knows what I'll let you speak on that. But I kind of remember you kinda going through something similar, you know, you came in the UC star off four no five. And then the Andro Santos a fight were early on. You could just tell this is going to be your night. And then that I think it was a spin yellow or whatever can you relate to anything? What do you think you're a little bit further on in your career but similar in age? And now, I feel it. I feel everything come from. You know, experience definitely do play a huge factor into the game that most people don't really see you only know it because you've been in there, and you and you can feel it NFL, which is about what you know fans. I mean, they they go not fans I say what I say don't feel feel feel. Jack. Poke you guys the rest are cool. A which you, but you know, you ain't you think about that? When you when you you know, I think the at the end of the day, you just got to speak your truth. You know me into guys we can look at the same thing. And I'm seeing something totally different than he seeing. You know, I'm just at least for me. I'm always keep it honest, which I'm and I'm just going to tell you what I'm seeing. And if I feel like I'm a wimp somebody else, I'm gonna tell you that way in and, you know, regardless of how you say whether you like me or not even those hunter, you know, those ninety four people or whatever you say fuck like like, cool, but I'm not I'm not process, and they, you know, their fillings aren't in my in my head when I'm saying what I'm saying. All right. So I'm with you on that. I mean, I really the only question I got for you is who you're trying to fight necks. And when you're trying to make a habit. Fuck I keep seeing about thousand shape of the size of the person doesn't matter to me by trying to get a fight summertime. Sometimes kind of projecting right now. I don't wanna get touched from the face, obviously, a couple of months to let completely heal up. And then I got rewire some shit. Yeah. I'm going to be shot. I go back and wire some ship. So someone's won't thinking I mean, whoever we just gotta conduct cop. All right. Well, again, man, I really thought you played your poker hand pretty exceptional. I mean, look the fight at the end of the day. Didn't go bad you one. I'm telling you. You're win would have been worth with some of these other numbs goals. Get when they go out there and win your win would have been like worth three times as much because you actually gave fans an emotion, whether they wanted you to get knocked up by the cowboy summer cowboy fans, or they're like who's this new guy I wanted to whatever, and you got people interested in it. You guys are prize fighters, and you're supposed to get people interested in your fights. So the price keeps getting bigger and bigger. So I thought you played your hand. Excellent. And and then at the end you showed some class. I mean, you know, hey, you're young man. You still got plenty of chances to you know, continue to climb that mountain. Percent. Thanks very much for the time. Alexander we really appreciate it heal up. And hopefully, we'll talk to in the spring about whatever match they give you for the summer. All right. You too. All right. We'll see. All right. That is allies Hernandez. I love somebody that talks game, man. I really do. I know that the that it can hurt when things don't go your way. But I'm telling you, you take these big steps forward. You're not going to be one of those guys where you go. Hey, man, you're eating. No how come you're not fighting any contenders. Or a title. You know, that guy knows. He's either decision eater or nobody gives a fuck because he hasn't let people talk about them. You know what I mean? But then there's people like foreign are like, wow, your main eventing. Why do you think that is? Because the give fans a reason and doesn't always have to be smacktalk. Does always at the curse words of your creative on social media. Some people are putting up with a tie. And maybe I have for four syllable words, whatever you just you just have to placate a little bit to a lot of the the Casuals out there. Because remember the UC knows the hardcore going, by the view, it's. How many casualty are gonna buy it? All right enough of that. Let's. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. We also have a bell tower fight coming up tomorrow the end of the heavyweight grand prix. I'd love for Kevin gives his prediction on who. He thinks is gonna win fade or millionaire or Ryan Bater. It's gonna be a great great main event out at the forum in Inglewood, so stay closed on and we'll be right back. Compassion common sense. These guys have none of that. You listen to him. So you're no better. I am awesome. Though. They are gorgeous towards and goes. All right. We're back. New our daily debate here. Once the guys compose themselves talk during the break. That's definitely the scenario juicy Lucy. Eating ribs in the back. She hears that music shit desma jams puts it down liquor fingers walkout. And the day. I think I think I can tell that story because. On. Yeah. Let's do this daily debate. All right. So here's the day. Here's the deal. Here does the overall success of bell towards heavyweight grand prix tomorrow. Is it all depend on the quality of the Bill tort to fourteen event between fatal million Inc. O and Ryan Bater. I think some can say it's kind of been a success, especially with Fayed are getting there all the way to the end. And then the story of a light heavyweight making some noise that heavyweights I feel like, you know, they got two good players here. But does it at the be like an epic fight or or can one guy dominate? You know, what are your thoughts? I mean, I need a yes or no. But but well actually said no it's already a success or yes. The final has to be good. What are you sit in? Yeah. I think it's already a success. And I'll just go ahead and steal the great. Josh burnett's take on a on a pride documentary. He was saying the the beauty of tournaments and grand breeze. Sure. You don't always get the best fighter the most elite fighter. The most elite athlete a lot of times. It's. Toughest guy on the night, obviously belt or did it where they split it. But like you said, George the keyword. You said story, right? You still get stories. Now, I would argue this is one of the better outcomes that could have happened. So even furthering my already is success there. But I I would even still vote the same guys no matter whose name you put in there because their re injecting the conversation of tournaments into mixed martial arts, which is just opportunity opportunity put another title online, even if it's just a grand prix title because those title those opportunities translates the paid as for the fighters and opportunities for the fighters. So yeah, yeah. I think it's already success, and hopefully, they did more. I'm gonna go with. Yes. The final has to be good. I'll tell you why. Because I think they need to win. If Brian wins, a he's not gonna defend I think he wants to be a reigning light heavyweight how might be wrong. But if he does stay then, I guess, it's a whole different thing. I wouldn't want him to win like a fine Ryan decision where he doesn't seem thing. He did Dimitri own because if he goes the light heavyweight the heavyweights are going to be fighting to be the baddest man at heavyweight, they're not even the baddest man on the promotion much less the planet using air quotes because the light heavyweight is wound up winning the grand prix. So if he's going to do it that needs to be spectacular, and hopefully, maybe compete at that way class and go back and forth, which we all know, it's tough to do. So I just think it's so much easier for failure to go in there. And just Aisam. You know what I mean? That's not what I think's going to happen. I think bears win. But if they don't want to do that. Then there's the claim, oh, hey, the greatest heavyweight of all time he fights for Bill or you know, what I mean? I think bell towers got just way more to play there. Especially on the public relations side. The scary thing is he's now in his forties. And he's already entertaining retirement. How long has he hanging around who knows it's already? Success? And I think we can base it on the fact that there's already a welterweight grand prix going on. I think they've already seen the reception of what's been going on putting a million people to I like what you said. And it's the fact that would it be a success for Biltmore to have the winner of the heavyweight grand prix be a light heavyweight. So the the greatest heavyweight and beltway right now that probably wouldn't look good for the promotion. So I think they do need failure to win that. But as far as the overall thing, I think it's been a success. How you what do you think? Yeah. I think it's already been assessed. Just because I even care about it. Really? There hasn't been many tournaments, especially that Bella tours done because they used to do a lot of tournament formats and stuff, and you know, they do him, and he really wouldn't care especially not until they got to the finals, even when PF L did in in. I enjoyed the PF ill, especially I think it's good that they around having that million dollar tournament and all to. They just didn't do a great job of capturing you throughout the whole thing ambulatory. Actually. I mean, each fight gave me something, you know, it made me actually wanna watch it which it's been a long time especially in a tournament that that that's happened. So as far as baiter winning, you know, I don't know. I think you can make the argument. I mean, the same thing just happened overnight UFC, then you call me as not a heavyweight champion. He was the light heavyweight champion, you know, that kind of worked out with start off as the heavyweight to start off like twelve Minoza heavyweight won the strikeforce heavyweight grand prix. So you had a history there. That's true. But you know, you never know in hindsight might im- be the best thing to happen. You you you never know how things play out. The Bela Tor heavyweight division has always been. I mean, I can't name one bell or heavyweight that bell is actually grown dummying too. I can't think of nobody. So, you know, maybe this might be the best thing for him. You never know. There's one guy, but you're right. He hasn't been around for bell towards battalion minute. The undefeated heavyweight who had a contract dispute, and I guess he's getting maybe fight the champ which you're right. It's just been fighters that they've signed into the promotion and the other one's just they haven't had rousing success. All right. Here's how the voting went. Fifty fifty seven percent said no it's already a success. Forty three said, yes, the final has to be good. So it remains to be seen tomorrow night bell toward fourteen catch it on his own and paramount nine PM eastern, by the way, three hundred and thirty votes came in. And that was the split there. Almost right down the middle there, you there you have it. There's the bait brought to you by the radio team. And Kevin Lee. Hey, real quick, you mentioned PF L A fighter that will not name said he had to wait a few days. And I imagine all of them had to wait a few days, and the vast Athletic Commission, maybe some tests or blood tests had to come back. Make sure everything was good, but the wires have been received. And he said, it was awesome. You know, wake up merry Christmas. What was their think Uncle Sam? These are some taxes that they taken out. But either way he was all smiles so happy for those guys. Lance Palmer team years. He got one of those. He wasn't the one rule him out. But Vinnie almost got hit, you know, got one as well. But anyway, I can't wait for for the next season. We got a phone call who we got goes how from Chicago what's up? How how you doing? Or soak as listen, I wanna say, I don't care leap into Cohen Imran. All what up? Appreciate it. These guys they did a poll in and out burger was number one. Okay. We'll give it to. No. That's that's that's the. But it's heavily biased west coast. No. I mean, it's junky nation is like seventy two percent, west coast. I think the western fighters. There were fighters. Okay. To shea to shea. I'll tell you what they have the best ingredient are burgers. Do you have the list, then they can how maybe we'll give you can keep talking if you want. Okay. But either way how you do it. Whatever. Josh shoes on the east coast. Let's see the next in-and-out was been coaster to his. John is a west coast home with defects, baby. Big John was a west coast in and out. Cups wants I was laughing in the chat. Oh, this got the logo tattooed on his body. My favorite answer because he had the caveat where he brings his own ingredients because that's my criticism. And now they don't have enough option. So will bring his own stuff in there. But yet to your point how that's a west coaster. Mike pile. From Tennessee, but lived on Vegas, still, well, then we can save big John lives out in Tennessee. Now, another one the eve Edwards kinda fits the same Bill. Doesn't mean he's he's the last in and out burger of ODA from Austin, Texas. He's from Houston Texas now lives in Austin at one point worked at American top team or live their train their coach there. But now he's in the west coast. All right. Maybe bound to knows how did you give yours or no? When when Wendy's double that's mine when I'm with you this. I love that one. Yes. Yes. Great. Kevin. I got I got two questions for you men Warren ears. You know, we hear this talk of you know, there's some sportsbook even put odds on Stephen a Smith, restrict car, whatever. Derek Carr would kill them just on cardio. But no. So I would scoop who would you like as which celebrity you would like to fight the most and second question is, you know, got a brash personality and some people, you know, you're polarizing, but what people don't know, you're good guy. I know you're just trying to make it here. Does it disappoint you that in this day and age it pays for to be the he'll to be that guy who's trash-talk instead of just in the old days. I was hard cores. We remember when a guy who just showed up worked hard, and was was honest and did his job in the kitchen. That's when you are. And I know because I know these guys and they speak very high. Early view. And I and I met you. And you're just a good dude who works hard and comes every day man, you all away from the choice to try to make disappointed that that's not enough that you've got to play it up. And then a court as Colby, you know, number my him. But anyway, those are my two questions. All right. Take off the air. Look man is fighting question. But yeah, I mean, I think he might be a low off there with with the old days where you just gotta valued Har where education on it. Yeah. I me- maybe looking back. That's what you want to say. How you feel like it was. But during the time, everybody hate him, Holly. You know what? I mean. Everybody hated. So you see I don't think you name one fighter that people love now that when they were there people didn't hate, you know, and it's just like you said at the top hours like if you ain't got no hate does. You any Papa so. Spoke. That's just no if you ain't you ain't pop. Right. So I mean, you, you know, do I look at that? And be like it's just the game. You know what? I mean. That's just that's just how it is. Especially here in America. I mean, do I hate it that that it's got be that way. Sometimes sometimes it gets a little annoying. Sometimes it's is, you know. It ain't all this crack dope to be. But then at the same time. Give the fuck, you know. Gives a fun to be on. So I think when you look back on in in hindsight's, always twenty twenty people hate the same person that you hate now twenty twenty vision, you going to be like, you know, what I used to actually load of this like hate is like the same thing as as admirations. Would we be better off if we just came in on Monday and said cowboy one should he fight Conor? We say, yeah. You should I shouldn't. But then at the end, we just shrugs each other. Fuck right. Just move onto the next night instead of going now, I'll man should be this because in two thousand fifteen remember when Dana white said and all of a sudden. Oh agitated, and and we're back, Iran. I mean, that's the phone is is the education is the indicator. Indicate s some people just come just a boo, you know, what I mean, who am I to tell somebody how to have fun and enjoy themselves. Sometimes I like to show up just to talk shit. And just so, you know, like, I can't hate you for that. I just get people what they want. And and that's all. Forget what it was. What is other question? Who would you fight celebrity five fight a celebrity celebrity fight. I wanted to your guys just curious. I give it to take him a lot a lot of people gave a lot of slack to Stephen A. But as far as I know he was the only one to really call TJ get knocked out that quick, you know, he kept calling his chin. You know, he said he was Chinese said he's leaves himself to borrow a lot of people gave shit for his first time on ESPN. But only for a man who don't not a fight. So why you wanna fight them? You're given a prompt because he tall, you know. I mean, I don't know because he just was you know, he meant to Stephen. Buggy tall. Lebron LeBron for short fight. Yeah. Ron he's tall. Stephen a Smith. You know? I'm not saying I mean, I'm not saying. Lebron? It was a lever. You hate more than those two things like one, oh this one in a hate AMI. I'm mostly wanna fight them. Just foot just foot a foot foot of competition of it competition. Nobody to to really hate like the really so I kind of I'll give you my two real quick. I'll give you the guy that I would talk crap to induct because no matter where the time line. He's a basketball player too. So no matter where on the time on I'm getting smashed. But that shack, and I think I already went over my reasons for that. But then I would I would talk to him and duck him. But then I would fight Michael bay for just being one of the most overrated piss poor, and sometimes borderline racist film directors. There we go. Did his best movie was the rock that was fun. Transformers and all the Hollywood popcorn Bs movies. And and yeah, awful director. Do you think you'd be check? No, I would talk crap out duck shy because calf kick. Glare time line. Like, I like I would have to be like primed, and Tom and I'd have to get like eleven year old or younger shack to have have a chance. The real small window check Jeff Dicks now. Our? Would enough to roll into a knee bar something Bucknell drop elbow? React me is K is. Are you going to reach me? Okay. Right. Little macho man or Mario Lopez. Would you fight either one of those Mark Wahlberg, you know, he he's is hard for me to to really like judge actors because they you know, what I'm saying five seen interviews where he does. And it's like he still a little bit. It's your honor. I it's it's an honor for you to have me on what you say. I mean, other other other actors will come on and really be like, we'll call it charming or an ice or whatever where you're like. Oh, it's pretty cool guy. I've spent a lot of time down in Hollywood now, especially not agencies Downer in everybody kind of seemed like they put on a you know, what I mean because you can fight. Probably you know what? I mean. Maybe so all right. So there's another call. Yes, we got Kevin from Chicago. Well, so Kevin how you doing? I got a question Kevin Lee, real quick. So a last time I called them you say, Greg less be said, you weren't to impress them. You say nothing special. An champion. I'm just wondering what you think of is less fight. And any thoughts change. He's still hate her on Greg less be. Okay. I give it to you you Kevin from from Chicago, whatever I alright Gregor. I didn't know that they had cell reception out there in sticks. But Chicago thick. Oh, that's great. You don't have. Gregor got up in New York. He's from New York. You know what? I mean I Greg fan, but. No, I was impressed with that last night. And that's definitely a fight that I'm looking at now, you know, I would be giving them a shot in common up. I've already kind of put on offer out there. I'm just waiting to hear back from now, you know to kick and fight. He's undefeated in you know. Like, you said I'll really wasn't too impressed with them before. But that last versus he did. All right. So I think I might go ahead and get that done is just on him. Whether he wanna have it or not. But yeah, me I was impressed. I just are you still there? Kevin from Chicago. Prager Greg from New York, I'm from Long Island fishing boat. Keep it real. Solver such. I was impressed with your fight. And I think I may have stated that that the fights tend to go to more of a decision, but he's actually got like five finishes in a row is just so it's just slow. Yeah. You know, it's it's like watching the NFL team always wins the wall on third long, then they'll pass it or or like watching hickory basketball for there must be four passes before we take a shot. It's not running gun or whatever. But he does get the job done he's relentlessly as good cardio. But now see that style along with. I don't want to talk about my opponent before the fight. I don't wanna do. Call outs. You know what I mean? Don't bumi. I mean, like, oh, man. It's just just get them off. I get to the next cat. He might walk in here. And be the coolest do whatever. I don't know. What the what I've seen? Just I can honestly see a lot of fans thinking like me and just going. Well, let me know when he fights again. But I'm not that interested now employ fights. I mean, I'm hearing on his every word like a high school cheerleader like Jewish Windsor next fight who you find. Where do you wanna I wanna know these things because he's got a fighting style. That's pleasing. Well, listen, I stupid. I already know. It'd be the dumbest five Amina take really. You know, like you say he don't really bring a lot of media attention. He don't even like pushing the media. So let's go put extra pressure on me and audit, and he's he's he's really effective, but he's born to and you know, it's it can make for born fight to. But that's kinda why I'm like in the fight form. You know what? I mean. I kind of like a challenge he he's he's one of the best wrestlers in the game. So I kind of liked that challenge and possessed. Both come from wrestling back on. And you say that's boring. What it's all about who the best fighter is not about entertaining. And no long. I'm the I'm not I'm not. That I can't have an opinion. Right. When I watched the fight it just other people due to his last five in New York, and they start bullying during the fight somebody New York, you know, what I mean? So you you got a good point there just asked me the other day. What's the one style of yet, a young fighter, and you could train that you would hope they have. And I said wrestling, I can respect what wrestling brings to the table. Not just physical or mental. Right. But wrestling by itself, it's not for everybody. You know what I mean? And and that's why. But a super that's why Kevin from Chicago. When March madness is happening. This place is chaos. I'm talking about the Mandalay bay sportsbook. And when March madness is happening. You got some geek on the twenty eighth floor who's not with his buddies down here. And he's watching it all by himself. Maybe one other knucklehead is watching it with them. But this place is just overflowing. It just doesn't appeal. It's just kinda boring, but I get it that wrestler. Love watching other wrestlers compete. They wrestled they get the scoring. They get whatever the the is somebody gonna break or not break, whatever. But I watch monas- grin on Twitter. And he's talking about all man, who's going to win this that whatever and a couple of people tweet or whatever. But it's nothing like other athletes whenever there, Tom while a big playoff football game or something like that. Or a basketball game. The sport is not as on the same level. I wouldn't go as far as geek. Because I'll watch it's fun. But I'm definitely not like trying to wake up and give me to the great wrestle. I mean job. But. I see what you're saying persons more fun for the the the the mass the masses, but who gives a fuck. Just the truth. The point is my point is. If you guys are talking from purists angle, I mean meritocracy-based, then you gotta let the best way to Hsi-wei if you wanna just do WW sow and put Sam Polk in there. He'll say more though, so more reviews often put the combined he's a bigger job than three fourths of the roster. So you gotta gotta watch which angle pushing who talked. And even before my last fight. I said I do wanna see 'em make to the competition of the sport. You know, we. Yeah, we can have all these things. And yeah, we can give Conor McGregor another shot. All right. Let's just give Conor McGregor another shot. Because that's that's that's what they think is going to sail. But at a certain point, you got to get back to the competition of it. And I'm not just going to talk about it. I'll be about it Gregor will be a great fight. It wouldn't be smart. You know, I'm I'm just keeping a real like, you know, he don't really really gonna bring much to the table but size his skill set. And being able to beat me. But is a fight that I'm interested in just from the competition standpoint of it. So we'll see we'll see we'll see if he if even except I'm giving him a shot here. But you know, the all fish on side. You know, they got stack you chips. You're listening to MA junkie radio on fight nation challenge. Three stay close. And we'll be right back to close up. Shop. Blah, blah, blah here. Those two dummies George goes, all right? We're back. Bring him the burger talk back, right? What's your tacos? Yesterday. I'm Kevin had three burgers chili dog. What else to burgers chili dog? Chicken tenders? I remember you had two bags, and you and you were holding too. Yeah. Yeah. It was cookout. Throwdown every meal. I mean, you know on on on certain occasions what we spent all day out calories. Consumed date, you know, the kind of giving you the clipboard and study, this is all your body chemistry lines. Go by calories, especially you know, because focus on a lot of high fats. And when you get a lot of Fettes you eat a lot of calories. You know? But you know, most of that. I think it depends on where your calories are coming from. You know, they give me the whole breakdown and everything how much my body burns per day. Just sitting doing nothing burn like thirty one hundred calories. But then I I don't like like, I don't I don't like. The average even thousand that's faster metabolisms thirty. I think but they say that. But then for like an average male my age, or whatever it was like twenty seven hundred over. I was like thirty two thirty one in. I don't know. I don't I don't count calories. I mean, that's just kind of pointless over prediction on the Super Bowl. Patriots. The rams. I don't watch okay page. How many years has it been that patriots are in the Super Bowl? I feel like every at least have of since I've been alive. The patriots have been in a Super Bowl. Yeah. And they always lose. So we're about John Jones. Are you are you guys laughing that off the dole jacket thing? I heard you say something about look at one point. We're entertaining. Like, not not a fight because he's heavy. But something about you won't beat me up. And yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, but we'll have. I'm just going. You know, you'll talk talk low share Matola Masha back down. I mean, I I don't you know, I'll really like him necessarily. I mean, I don't really, you know, I got some respectful skill set for sure, but I'm not like in a way this whole, you know, kinda have drug tests. You know, I'm kind of pop in. But not really think is going down is like, okay, we get it. You might have some trace amount here and there, but where does she come from? You know, what I mean in in at the end of the day, even when that's what got I got respect for guys when you know, if you pop for some or whatever just just keep it, honest. Just be like, okay. Yeah. I took it my bad. Like, you know. And when you don't do that at all, then is almost like, you try and play Montella telling and and and that I'm say on I take offense to it. So I took a fence tested for your tested at least like. Sixteen times since the the thing started per year, probably three or four six AM. You get those or are they backed off them a little bit. I think they got too many complaints. And now they they show up at a reasonable time. They show up like nine tier, especially viewing given the problems. And they know I ain't giving him no problems. They can show up whenever whenever so, you know, they think it just is is part of the game now. And I kind of I respect it in. It's making it to where you know. I don't have to worry about that. Which I like so big thanks to Alexander Hernandez. Good job goes on booking him. Thanks to Kevin Lee as well. We gotta get on outta here. Dennis rita's Tikos in Marquette, bent, folks, Corey San Hagan, Jessica I or other guests and Kevin thanks as always coming in and co hosting looking for two thousand nine hundred ninety. Yes. People locked on make junkie throughout the week. We got you covered for the big bell torture. Fourteen card takes. Tomorrow night in Inglewood, California. Who treat Ryan Bater fade or million ankle? The winner will be the belt Tor grand prix champion for Kevin joss. Danny goes, I'm towards a nice weekend. Go out there and be a champion.

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UFC Predictions with Pina  UFC on ESPN 4: dos Anjos vs. Edwards

Sports Gambling Radio - By BangTheBook

24:30 min | 1 year ago

UFC Predictions with Pina UFC on ESPN 4: dos Anjos vs. Edwards

"Alone together everybody and thank you for joining me here on this special edition of Bloomberg radio four Friday July nineteenth going to chat about U._F._C. on E._S._p._N.. Four with a main event of Rafael Dough Sanyo's and Leon Edwards with Christina of the sports gambling podcast five days this week five shows on Bang Book Radio If you missed Wednesdays discussion with Brad Powers on college football in particular the S._e._C. The A._C._C. and the big ten definitely to make sure that you go back and check that out great addition the Betters Fox on Thursday by M._L._B.. Betting podcast and we'll have another one coming up here on Monday of next week as well then Tuesday will chat some college football with Ralph Michaels by College Football Pala Ratings First Edition posted over at Bang Book Dot Com to go along with a a lot of other great content over there including Christians freeview here of this. You have see on E._S._P._N.. Card go ahead and bring Christian Pena of the Sports Gambling podcast on the program here Christian going today man and we are coming off a wild U._C. event last week that mean got the ghost of <hes> your favorite coming in is what afford to one underdog and some really interesting decisions that happened out there so this one <hes> you know as we talked about last week. I think this was the last week card was more of the journeymen <hes> fighters kind of scrapping being for wins in this fight. <hes> card is really more of the well no names in some definite exciting fights on this one <hes> specifically in the kind of Maine Card Department the prelims there's only seven of them on this one so it's a little bit <hes> top heavy but the main cards certainly should have the casual fans interest <hes> kind of loaded top to bottom here now one thing I do and ask you about we've talked about this before where you sort of like the boring cards you sort of liked the boring fighters for a betting standpoint because you like to do the over two and a half rounds you like to look at the more technical clinical elements here of the U._F._C. When you look at this main card three heavyweight fights so we know that there's going to be some bombs thrown in knows and the two lightweight fights and the welterweight fight could both have a lot of violence to him as well so are you finding. There's many opportunities on this card is usually what I think. That's really good segue into almost the main event we when you look at this and look styles make fights. That's the CLICHE. Almost you know kind of easy way to say things but that's really true and why focus on the round props as you know. Judging is something that can largely go either way based on what they see in what they like in as long as you can get there. I think that it just takes you know basically the biggest version of variance out of it and when you look at you know stylistically two guys to kind of boring boring dirty boxers that want to go up against the cage and just kind of point fight. I think that there's an opportunity to kind of really make some money in that department just knowing stylistically how the fights GonNa play out not knowing which one is going to ultimately come on top in the judges is is in so sometimes you get to pay for it a little bit you know in the market <hes> but to me. It's just a really eliminates even more variants when you just want to figure out how to people matchup stylistically which kind of leaves us into the main event here with refugees <hes> Joe Sanyo's inland John Edwards and rarely Leon Edwards to me is probably the most God at this point. Maybe one of the most amazing fighters in the A._F._C. that nobody knows about and I don't even know saying nobody knows about but doesn't get the respect to notoriety. He deserves he's been calling for a top five opponent for seemingly forever and enter Raphael Dough Sanyo stands for the call at number three in Leon Edwards is on a seven fight win streak at this point and when you look at Stack Division that he has gone up against and had victories of two MUNAF and say <hes> sent Lucchese Rony Governor Nelson you know this is a guy who is just so well rounded in. I was talking about certain guys are kind of one trick. ponies guys don't do anything great do everything good below average and he really does everything great and speaking with Leon Edwards. This is a little bit tougher matchup for him for sure you know all the experience in the world for Dose Daniels on the other side and maybe one of the few even more well rounded than Leon Edwards that being said I think that Leon Edwards this is about to really go on a run here. Almost they really going to run after winning his left seven fights but this is the opponent that he needs to really jump start his title aspirations entitled Ryan. I just I think we talked about this. I believe with what Marshon the other <hes> couple shows ago that desire and that hungriness is something that Sanyo's only certainly been good as as of late Leon Edwards certainly has that x factor of everything in the world to gain in truthfully. There's not a lot to begin for a guy like Raphael Santos in this fight so it's a little bit kind of weird why he would take this one against this guy but the <hes> I really think that this one is going to go to a decision number one. I think that both guys are so incredibly durable so hard to put away and they both we'll have the ability to adapt to the fight. That isn't fun of them. <hes> so this should be gritty decision victory my estimation fairly on Edwards <hes> but again I think the over rounds prop definitely makes some sense in this department. If you don't want to get involved with the judging but this should be an absolute war back could fourth ending up on the judges scorecards for maybe a little bit of a controversial in very close decision for Leeann Edwards you know one of the things that we talk about. We talk about why some of these matches are made and you just sort of touched on it. They're a little bit with Leeann Edwards. Finally getting a shot against the top five guy here in this division Dawson was coming off of a really nice bounceback performance with the win over Kevin Lee by submission back on May Eighteenth Edwards fighting in the U._S. for the first time since December nineteenth twenty fifteen and that kind of stands out to me a little bit his other flights coming in England a couple in the Netherlands one over in Singapore against Donald Surani but you just mentioned that he's such a talented fighter that a lot of people don't know about and this isn't a commentary on the popularity of U._F._C. in the U._S.. Versus around the world but simply to say that maybe this match was made for a reason with Edwards back in the states against a well known name as one to kind of strap that proverbial rocket. Who is back? You hit the nail on the headman you really did. It's a way to get Edwards in the main event on U._S.. Soil in really you know get him known and I think that that is ultimately the goal that is really look. We've seen this time and time again. Look Narrative. Isn't everything everything if narrative was everything renders dusted loaded Machida Ronda rousey would never lost and Conor McGregor. Would you know what I mean the narrative this isn't w._W._e.. Where things can be scripted perfectly but you know in your favor last week against Ricky Simone so there's a lot <hes> you know it's a cool story to talk about what the U._F._C. wants to happen but went to step into the octagon? Anything can happen <hes> but that is in my estimation why this match was made where it is in the main event and all that to really start right to get Leon Edwards the momentum that he needs because he's proven time and time again he's one of the best fighters on the roster and you know the resume building that descend IOS will provide him if he's able to have a win and especially at this kind of short line look. This is not a walk in the the park showcase fight for Leon Edwards. This is going to be greedy back and forth. He just has everything to gain while Daniels ultimately has a lot more to lose all right so as we move on down the card here we'll talk about the heavyweight fights between Alexei Olympic and Walt Harris Harrison minus one fifty five favorite in this one obviously anytime you get a heavyweight fight. The dog is kind of an attractive starting point just because of the heavy hands and heavy kicks that these guys throw how do you see this is Harris deserving of this big of a favourite on. I mean you go down you look at harasses record. You know what you're getting with this guy <hes> all of his wins ending and NOCCO and he certainly does have the power to finish Olympic very quickly in this. This is kind of a Boa constrictor as the nickname of Olympic in this is kind of your striker versus submission artists grappler and that's a really unique kind of aspect tool annex game specifically in the heavyweight division in you know Harris has really struggled in the takedown department. He just needs as you know not to make this one very simple <hes> but if you know Harris connects it's going to be via knockout and I think that you know when you look at everyone that he has via knockout. I think that you can probably built into the market but you know Harris by knockout or a nick by submission mission is to most likely past two victories. I don't see either guy making it to the judges scorecard so maybe if you could find a robe two and a half under <hes> that makes him sense more likely probably going to be a one and a half but look this stylistically. I don't know that Harris has what it takes to stop. Take downs and usually I've always favor the grappler when it comes to grappler versus striker matchup specifically when it's not more Harris's by no means more polished or well rounded he just has much more power and it's kind of one hit quit killer killed mentality with him so being so diverse and knowing Olympic kind of get this fight to the ground a myriad of different ways dodds really how I see this one kind of playing out to be honest so I would really favor the underdog Atlantic plus one thirty the one question I ask you about Olympic here. His seventy first professional matches forty two years old just turned forty two towards the tail end of June when you are a grappler type of guy and a lot of times strength plays a role but a lot of times you're looking at quickness this to be able to get that fight down to that at what point in in your mind or if you have fighter Paul ratings or anything like that desert come a point as a fighter ages that you say maybe he just doesn't have it anymore. I mean is it results based waste. Is it from what you see when you scout. How'd you sort of you know make that distinction yet? It's kind of goes into the same categories as you can. Handicap wait cuts and there's different times of that. It goes into layoffs in what's actually kind of of you know going on rather than just the fact that he is forty two but I mean you look at Wall Harris. I mean at thirty six. He's not exactly a up and coming prospect as well so look if this was Alexi Olympic in a nightmare stylistic matchup against up and coming. You know Francis on news something like that. It's it's. It's a little bit different. I think you know when you go into this. It's that six years older than Harris but is there a difference from forty two thirty six experience certainly plays a lot of this and you look at this. My God has forty five career submissions professionally rally. It's it's absolutely incredible to go along with eight knockouts and four decision victories <hes> while Harris Twelve twelve wins in the U._S. or twelve wins professionally twelve knockouts so look I get it. I just in this specific situation. I think that it's it's not a huge deal. It's not as if this twenty year difference and all that type of stuff <hes> but you know when we go down further the cardio or with <hes> Orlovsky. That's a little bit of a different story in it's more about current form and luck. We talked about this with Surani when he we thought you know all those years ago when he was done it as old way class. There's age is a lot different than fight years and all that type of stuff that goes into it so it's it's just one thing to keep in mind for sure but in this particular matchup it's not a huge deal all circle back to Orlovsky here in a few minutes but I wanNA talk about this Greg Hardy fight as he takes on one atoms want Adams a slight favorite minus one twenty out there. You may find a better price and some other places and of course recording this here on Thursday afternoon. Some of these lines may move out a little bit now. I'm Greg Hardy hasn't officially lost disqualified from a fight against Alan crowder but it's not like he's been knocked out. He's lost a decision anything like that here in his career as an amateur three and all as a professional four and one with with that loss is what Adams that big of a step up and class for him yeah. We'll look when you you look at Greg. Hardy is really funny. Kind of case study was when it comes to the look he was given the worst. I of the worst coming up on the <unk> fighters tufts all that type of stuff so he fought nobody and he knocked them clean off it was not competitive and the U._F._C. did that for one reason to build him up as polarizing former N._F._l.. Star. You don't got kicked out of the League and that's what it is this. You know I bet against hardiness I fight and that was certainly locked but it's just nobody deserves just just by going into the U._F._C. to be that big of a favorite especially in the heavyweight division now. I know that was very lucky and say what you want about that. This is just the hardest our hardest challenge Hardee's had to date now. Look is one atoms this kind of prolific guide. No it's just just based on who hardy fought so far is the reason I say that it's just kind of the best of the worst if you will and look Adams can easily find the shot to really finish this fight and you also has a little bit of wrestling that hardy has not seen this one is going to be violent at it is not going to last long. I think the under one one and a half is a great look. I think the either way both guys are going to walk to the middle of the octagon. They are going to swing bombs until somebody is knocked out and so from that perspective you know the underdog will always make a little bit of sense. It's a little bit of a <hes>. It's it's you know basically pick him. Fight right about now in so you may be kind of try to arbitrage that shop around and find a couple of different looks that way place a mockup props on both sides but they're probably really built into that. This was pretty easy to handicap I could it's a coin flip fight. It's a literal literal to the center of the ring fistfight in first person to fall is going to be knocked out in loss and it's really simple of a fight here art so we move on here to the first of the lightweight fights we're GonNa talk about and that is James Vic and Dan Hooker and you mentioned this last week at the tail end of the show when we were sort of looking ahead to this card kind of looking at the name value on it and also the excitement the violence factor all that type of thing and this was one fight that you really highlighted with Vic Hooker yeah this is a great fight and this is more. Maybe more of a jurist Eh may fight in my estimation more than you know something like the Harvey fight that we just talked about both guys were really writing hot in both guys are desperate to get back into the wind column after both of them having their winning streets snapped and you know Vick was really knocking on the door and had all going for championship opportunities in Hooker on the other end was also on four fight winning streak finishing what Ross Pearson <hes> Casey Jamila. Eh Killer Burns <hes> you know in line before meeting at Zimbabwe Barbosa who really took it to him here so they're they're both just so well rounded knockout submissions decisions they can win fight so many different ways and they're really both <hes> no primarily strikers but they can both back on their wrestling when things don't pan out for them so this one is really probably my favorite of the evening. It's it's really hard to gauge this Intel this. I will usually always kind of favor james victims because traditionally through the years. He's been somebody that has come in at you know some great dog money. He's really overlooked for a long stretch and time on he's really in with the kind of gambling community within the U._F._C.. I think he'd be puts out picks every time from gambling ambling on his twitter feed so he's somebody that you really I root for and I always going to take that out as it comes down to it but this is going to be a really really close fight. hookers power is probably the finishing power a little bit more but what I would really kind of give these striking technical edge to vic so it's going to be more of a volume versus power thing on the feet in wrestling. I think that when you look at this on paper the slight edge just about everything does end with Dan Hooker so this is this is line appropriately. I think is probably end up sitting back watching this one as a fan but this is nearly one that is just incredibly interesting really close to know too close to call in my book but you know got into the head. I'll always go with on my Guy James Vic. I want to ask you real quickly here about the other lightweight fight on the carpet is on the main card Alexander Hernandez Francisco Rinaldo. We've gotTA talk up the previous four fights and I know that you've got a thoughts on the are Lobski Rothwell flight and we'll talk about here the second what is this one just kinda stand out as maybe the weakest of the Bunch on the main card yeah look Alexander. Hernandez is excuse me a little bit polarizing in you know. Some people don't like him. He kind of you know didn't abide by let's say unwritten rules by what he did against build our ocean his debut cashing in his I believe plus three seventy five plus four hundred favorite he was in absolute killer on the regional scene and the U._f._c. just gave him a little a little bit too much too fast with a guy like Surani who absolutely humbled pulled him and you know that I feel like the I've said this many times but the book is out on Surani in the book is out on who he loses to that one was a little bit of a weird match up though because traditionally L. is into Hernandez is all about one thing and that is power as pressure so so it was a bad batch of for him but he didn't have the skills yet to kind of you know beat him and so this one I think you know Hernandez is going to be better off for that. Surround you fight in the long run <HES> and you know I think that if he's able to again utilize that that pressure against Rinaldo who's going to be looking to sit back and end this fight via knockout. I'm Hernandez going to need to lean on his wrestling a little bit more <hes> so the kind of power speed in youth aspect of Alexander Hernandez should be a little bit cut and dry <hes> just too much over three rounds rounds in probably ending an innate decision for my book but yeah probably definitely the weakest went on on that or it so the first heavyweight fight of the night is the first flight of the main card. This whole thing is on e._S._P._N.. But this is defined as the start of the main card here Andrea Orlovsky ben Rothwell Rothwell already five favorite dollar eighty depends on where you're looking out there in the marketplace at least as of Thursday afternoon when we're recording like I said I know you've got some stronger opinions here on this on so what are you looking at. Yeah my AH. You'd never liked to say this my favorite fading the U._F._C. has been Andrei Orlovsky when you look at this <hes> I I don't know why he is dragging his career out to this point but here we are in the guy you know my God one one. One one fight in his last four he has really just he is a shell of ourself. He's one of his last eleven fights and lucky still kind of tough enough to survive and make it to decisions. I believe he's lost all all a four tied to a Vasa <hes> while Harris Augusta Sky was probably one of my big bets of this year Sokaiya against him look he. Is there for a paycheck at this point. He is there to make as much money as he can on his name value in this opportunity community probably won't arise too many times to get him. You know under feeding him under two one. I know it's a little bit of a heavy price to pay here <hes> but when you look at two in eleven in his last year has it hasn't been as close as the two and eleven would even suggest to be truth <hes> look in the prime this fight would have been great but when you just look at the current kind of form of a guy like Ben Rothwell is he kind of on his last legs as well absolutely but he's three and two in his last five while again just sean all the struggles of Orlovsky so thirty-seven going up against the forty year old at least Rothwell was really <hes> say competitive in his last fight against Ivan off and you really can't say that very much against you know with or law Husky in any fight so really would favor Rothwell L. added about that minus one eighty minus one ninety clip. It's just getting in the money while while the edges as the greatest end to be honest Lobski. I don't know how many times left there's going to be to fade him but I'm going to get it in while I can. Three bantamweight fights to women's fights a light heavyweight fights and a featherweight fight making the pre limb card here seems a lot of these cards. We wind up talking a good amount about the prelims because you have some good betting opportunities find things that you like but you and I were talking before. We came on the air here that maybe this week's prelims car doesn't really yield a whole lot of profit potential yeah. Normally I have at least you know one. Two three really know picks on the prelims in this card <hes>. There's really just not a lot of opportunity. I think it's more so you know mostly frontloaded on the main card foreshore. That's kind of why we spent so much time talking about it. <hes> instead of no breaking this down a little bit when you go down the line at these fights Pennington Donner two fighters that I think a lot of <hes> fans will now you know this painting Senator Best would certainly be an issue feral Aldana. She doesn't like pressure and you know she hasn't really she's looked anything that our best against Iran to me and the lingering the the nunes concerns of the post you know that's one of my favorite angles to attack is fading dating fighters off of title losses and you can know another fight on this card with Ray Bork was certainly somebody that I targeted post that as well and so guys in girls that are both kind of trying to find their footing in what's next for them in their careers after their title-fights. Is You know you can kind of see the dreams hopes aspirations everything they've worked for has really been you. Don't take it away and so it can be a hard thing to come back farm but there's just really truthfully not a lot on this main car on the pre limb card that I have a strong opinion on. I think it's a lot of <hes> you know guys and girls trying to get back on the right tracks and you just don't know what that current form will be so <hes> I would favor all Donna in that fight via decision that over certainly going to be one nice little parlay piece. I think Ray bork probably does get back on track after all the issues in outside of the octagon as well but not a lot of value when it comes to the preliminary cards on this card. I guess I will press you for a second on it here. We talk about this fight card. Having a lot of name value a lot of names that people know no. They're going to be familiar with on the prelims card. There are a handful of fighters that maybe we haven't been exposed to too much in the U._f._c. any of them prospects of intrigue. I think that it's a little bit too soon to they say that I think that you can learn more from watching a fight and knowing than you can about trying to get ahead of the market. Sometimes <hes> you know you look at Jin Soussan and you know he is a nightmare to put away and I don't see away that a guy like Mario Batista Kin. Can you know get his grinding kind of style to win a decision victory against him and so. I think that the pressure of Sun is a guy that I'm looking at here. <hes> you know l._F._A.. After being in l._F._A.. From Batista he came on Short Notice <hes> Corey San Hagan. I believe back in January. <hes> survived a flying needed at the early. Take down on tapped out kind of soon so definitely guys that are up and coming. I just don't know I need to see it before I wanna get involved evolved in the marketplace if that makes sense so a couple in that fight as well but really men there's there's not a ton on here when it comes to kind of the up and coming stuff. It's it's really the name value guys like Sam Albie there that people will know for sure <hes> so you know I guess one that does make a little bit about you know that same l._v. burs Clinton Debray you a brave you know has a submission with victory over Johnny Walker on his resume and as we have seen <hes> Johnny Walker is a guy that I have incredibly high on his kind of you know on his way up for foreshore <hes> that was his first trip to the judges scorecards submitted ten guys in knocked out the other four brave is a top prospect but this is a little bit of a hard style matchup for him against <hes> Smile and Sam Alvie it really is his takedown defenses really been one of the things that he hangs his hat on in a brady who is much less the <hes> he's much more of a grappler than he is a striker despite those knockout victories those were kind of up and coming on the regional you know seen so. It's a little bit of a hard one forum when it comes to the style matchup at Bray is the prospect to watch out for in one that all certainly be watching very very closely in would favor him to get that win over US M._l._b.. Well next week. We'll have a pay per view to talk about. You have see to forty in Edmonson so definitely something free to look forward to here as we had on the next week but Christian Pena of the sports gambling podcasts at Christian peanut on twitter great preview over at Bang Book Dot Com for you to check out always a treat Christian. Thanks so much for joining me man and we'll talk to you get next week. Our everybody enjoy the fights there you go. There's Christina again of the sports gambling podcast at Christian Pena P. I. N. A. on twitter coming up on Monday. We'll have another edition of the betters box my.

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UF262: Cowboy Cerrone and Din Thomas In-Studio, and UFC on ESPN+ 1 Preview and Picks

UFC Unfiltered with Jim Norton and Matt Serra

1:19:16 hr | 1 year ago

UF262: Cowboy Cerrone and Din Thomas In-Studio, and UFC on ESPN+ 1 Preview and Picks

"Unfiltered. We finally have in studio guests that we we like, and we wanna dean Thomas cowboy Saronic. Join us in studio. It's a full house and a really fun show. This away that nobody is sending chase to finish. Folks on the button. Oh, he's he's out. This is you have see on filtered. And now your hosts, Jim Norton and bad, Sarah. Wow. Jimmy what a room Jimmy or the other day? And now he got nine people. I'd rather have people in here. Then have it be hot and empty? I hope another podcast comes in like a Joel storm right now. 'cause I feel this is a dangerous room. It really. Let's the you're right. Look to my left. Dean Thomas Cowboys Romania in studio, we see that the schools. They get the wide menopause. That's is that what we get. Yeah. It was go. Well, let's have cowboy wasn't. He you would on a fucking slow cloud. And I can we just point out that I feel if is a little awkward because I love attacking dean Thomas like like, I love doing it. I love attack them. I look tacky. I don't like being nice to him. And he brings his thirteen year old kid in the Ethan. Who's a lovely kid. Ethan. Good to see you, buddy. Either. Look get the just going to say it's awkward because this is the most black people you ever had in his room at one time. That's what he said when you guys weren't here. That's that's just I'm not even touching it. Listen to me tell you how close I am with L. Joe? I'm happy really helped me for a half an hour. So we've no man Christopher said pretend like you're not here for thirty man. I'm chilling. I wanna hear his story. I'm always fighting this weekend. You're the it's the the main event of the ESPN prelims like they're pushing ESPN Knox. I guess you have just went to is the first event on that. Yeah. And Hernandez is dangerous young fighter. You didn't. Did you know who he was when you took the fight or not I knew you do you look at the date and the like, let's say you like a sky ago, you jumping out a plane like next month? So you aren't I got February open or January open? Let me just book a fight. Then and whoever you get you get me. Yeah. I just call and say as soon as possible give me a date you cleaned up. Your facial hair, by the way, that's an employee different. Look every time didn't look bad. It looked almost like you will like a crazy homeless. I thought I saw you on the way over the last fight like three of you. I want him account with the way. But but you you cleaned it up. What happened you just felt cleaning up? Yeah. Just some Genucel age news. It's the first time. I looked at you today. Yeah. Let me go back down six and four you're doing great as high grade. No. But I mean after that might Perry that might Perry. Win was t-. What those seventy big sons bitches man, it was a size thing. They're big boys. Plus, I'm really lazy seventy you can drink beer e burgers. I kind of you know, fifty five I got a I got a direct my training. I gotta like be focused. I gotta be plus it's time, man. It's time to go. Get this bell. With all these accolades, we've collected and records, we broke it's time to do one more thing. I I don't want to go down as the the uncrowned people's champ. You don't wanna be like marina like guy who put all those years. I think knowledgeable. But yet you don't give a shit on who you fighting in a sense where this kid could make a name for you. If you're looking at this, and you that's the pitcher I'm talking about by the way of you looking like, a homeless person, look clean. He looks now about you know, so it's like this guy is a killer. I watch these. I wasn't too familiar with them either. Right. And then I looked at a couples five oh fuck, man. His last fight was with Grady. Yes. Fucking. He was shit. He's got a great cardio. These feel issue only lost once. And he and he knows if he takes out the great Donald ceremony. Boom. He's right. He's he's everybody knows them chair. How tell me about the enthusiasm for that other guys will be they don't want that I lost when I was towards the end of my career. I'm like can you Frank Drake? Was your age thirty five and you don't want me. Give me wanna give me three trailing. Only beat the shit out of him. I just it didn't excite me for somebody else. Making a name for me. What excites you about it? Yeah. I don't have a fucking answer for that. It's just the fight. Yet fight excites me that who never has. I don't care if I was fighting could be Conard this kid. You know, it doesn't it Saturday nights. I love right. And you look at him kind of as a you want you want to get to a title fight. So he's like a very is kind of up and coming, and he's he's probably a good one to get back into the fifth opponent that they gave me the fifth five it took five what happened with the other one is they were no, no two of them called me. And said fuck no, oh, who do they who else was named John? The fuck no though. Why would they why would they say the the? Because they didn't want to face your no time, but we're buddies with fuck. No fuck now. No, you're the wrong business. Yeah. For sure fuck. No. One of the guys called me. It was like I will only fight you for title. And that is that is I will never not a chance. Sorry. I'm gonna guess let me see who. I guess guess that's team Thomas, but he's gonna talk Tony Ferguson. I don't know him like that. No. No, I don't have a number anyway five opponents, it's crazy to me how you can pick. And choose in the sport. That's what I think is honorable you're doing what you're doing. Because like I've seen guys take that path and go I'm not fighting these guys I only wanna fight up, and you are looking to fight for title, and you're fighting down. So what did I mean? That's honorable. That's honorable. I love to fight man. I love it. Now when I beat this kid, and I get back when I left with you five dollars a lost the title sauce at number two, you know. And now here I am not even ranks crazy to me. But back when I get in the top five after this fight. That's why I wanna fight someone top. I told Dana I want to fight top five right now. He's like, well, let's make sure you can make fifty five. Let's let's slow the rule little bit. Let's make sure you you you perform and make the way and do what you need to do. And y'all I I won't fight down. Again. You know, once once I get through this, and I get I get back ranked? It's only moving forward, you know, and that's socks because that's my coaching staff. Not me, you know, they're like, look man, we gotta if we're making this run taking these dangerous fights and going backwards doesn't make any fucking sense. Like, I know you lied to fight. But we need. Let's let's sit and wait. But the advantage to being you is that you okay, you'll fight Hernandez. If you win the fight you're not gonna have to fight two more times to get a top five guy. They'll probably because your name give you a top one hundred percent, correct. I was gonna say the same thing because you account other guys. Like they strategically need. All right. This guy's ranked the bug. I need to beat this guy to get that title. This kid come in. He's coming with fire. See this is going to be up on burner. I can't wait for this. Yeah. I can't wait for this fight. So, but and he says are you said he has cardio. I have cardio cook. Yeah. You do. Sure, you've got all walks to obviously Perry. I got it. All man. I mean, I just so he doesn't want his Russell make it a boring fight like fucking fight. If you wanted the middle the rain would you foot down? Let's throw down the list. Go wasn't it satisfying taking that arm though. It's not like, I know you say that a lot, and that's how you fight. But yet, you know, Perry he chose. He brought you down and boom looking at you took that Lim lake. Doug about wrestling, and I've been working wrestling. But soon as Peri like grabbed me, I was like, okay. I'm just like. Like sure take me down. Let's go unless you feel the e the level of the the stiffness you like all right? No matter where this it's like letting somebody who has less experienced pass your guard. You'll get I know I'm going to get out and get on top. That's what it kind of looked like to me you. How like oh, okay. Let's go to your surprised. He was doing it. Absolutely. When he grabbed me and went for the take down. I was like oh, hell, yeah. Let's go so weird choice choice. Yeah. Sure. Because when you're known to punch his heart as he punches and it's a ball Burien. You know? Got my crew coming in. You said you want to know the crew shirts out of control. What what do you think? This is your podcast with Woodley. What is this? What did I say? Is this Larry from three's company guys? Give us two seconds or come back in or Christopher due to take control of dean, Thomas's riffraff. Yeah. What? What? I wrote an entourage. Now. You got to control your know, man. I got a late. They didn't show what you did not. Well, he could have been here before, you know, Jim, right? We security in this latest time security slackened. Like, I said, you look you kids what have you been doing? But I told you, and I've told you this. I think of you every time I fly in them and turbulence because you enjoy it. Are you still doing all that stuff? Are you still rolling plains? I haven't ruled a plane in a little while I'm flying straight. And I got my pilot's license. So yeah, your instrument qua- dumb question not industry. Not night or instrument yet. Okay. But you need me to go fly around the dinner today. I got you. So you have to do like are you have to make sure that there's a clear vision. And no clouds. No clouds. Yeah. Clear vision ram instrument trained yet. Do I feel I can do it. Yes. But my certified now, so what are you? What do you have to do? How many more hours before? Like, what's the difference? Fifteen more hours. Okay, flying and shit conditions. You do. Yeah. And that's with an instructor. Absolutely. Okay. I'm a couple of runs around myself. But that's pretty standard. Have you made any mistakes like when you're flying? You have an instructor. There's a guy who could obviously take over have you done things where you're like. Oh, fuck I I'm not ready yet. No. Because I that's not how I'm geared. I will I need to be need to know everything about need to do at one hundred times need to like one day. I just told a guy we're gonna go leave Albuquerque airport fly out to the country right live, and we're going to just take off and land and take off and land and take off and land for three hours. You know, just so come inside ways coming in with the tailwind coming approach of the win. You know, all bats narrows stall the engine out. Everything that could go wrong. So he's there watching witnessing. What I do in incorrect in me as long so I know that if that happens, I'm gonna be okay. So when you the hardest thing I guess is coming in for landing because you kind of have to balance I mean, taking office just taking office is taking taking office hard. I mean, you've got to run your rudders full-throttle. And I mean, it's it's hard to keep the plant straight, especially in like side. But yeah landing it's weird. Now that I like flying learned to fly when you're in an airplane. You feel that like pocket? A and everyone's all scared yet. Right. Does nothing. No, hell, no the plane will never just drop out his guy. You could literally kill the engines. And they could coast and landed on the freeway you so if you're playing goes down, I mean, shits gotta go down bad for for these crash. Landings could see him pulling a fucking sully. Yeah. In the bucket list. Let's look styles for a second. You verse? Let's listen. I know you got you. I don't like to look ahead. What are we talking fighting? Why don't we talk about good sleep? Trail off the path a little bit here and have a little fun talking about Thomas fucking comedy skits. That's all you wanna talk about fun fun. I guess you don't want to talk about funny. Is there a difference? Listen. Thomas's comedy. I've seen. All right. Listen you like comedy. Like it. Can I start some shit? Can we have fought? What are you talking about? Yes, star some I saw you on Joe Rogan. Okay. Yeah. Donald Cerrone is named bro. I'm with guys what am I in the middle? And she listen to me. Can you hear me out? About never getting a shot at a title, and this and that and also now here you go, and it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. Listen to me. It's only the tough kids. Get nervous. He's a fall to do this. You're in shape, you gotta do BJ online. You can get fed. You you got your crew right up. Listen to me because I'm getting I'm sorry. Jake camera guy outside will be very helpful. Looking at us. So Joe said, listen, he got a shot of title. I I'm I'm paraphrasing. But man, this is what you did it looks in cowardliness. Going to be tough first of all fucking. Of course, it's gonna be tough guys could be but styles make fights regionality Quinn. He's I hold them in the highest regard. Missile time somebody held him down and beat them up. You know what? I mean. He's hard to hold down. He's always squirm getting back four to five rounds of shells knows. All right. What's I'm somebody held down cowboy and and just beat his ass. Let's guy to try got his arm taking off. I can't remember before that maybe you could bring it up bring a bed ship. But I don't remember listen, I'm cowboy got L down and beat up so lock. It's placed on the feet. He's good. He's fucking dangerous off his back. He always says he doesn't want to wrestle. It's an app, but it gets down on the mat as its jitsu guy. I'm impressed takes a lot to oppress. Well, no, that's well, listen, I know. Sitting across from you. I always always give an advantage to GIS who because it's so you could be I've always said his most dangerous opponent is won't be somebody like Brian Ortega who can defend themselves after Beck and not have to stand up to fight him. All right. So what are you trying to say what I'm saying is that he has just a chance as much as anybody. But could be still got you can't deny that. You're not crazy to say Khabib is tough for any. But it's gonna be tough anyone fighting for sure. But what I'm saying is it's going to take somebody who's dangerous and has an offense of attack off of their back in order to beat a guy like could be one that you is dangerous. Mike Perry walking. I don't know you guys trying Olympia. What about cowboy Ella? Very we'll see knows about submissions nano cap. Boy, he's got a lot of submissions on his resume. He's always omitted people. I'm just saying the second brought it up use. It's going to be tough. It's tough forever. You're enjoying the bucket. It's tough for everybody. It's going to be like the spice shit. Oh, yeah. Let's get back to him. Put that squirrel snarky fucking. That's what I want to ask. I don't do that. Don't please. You got a kid. Now, don't do that. I do think a million times if we get an expert at it. Yeah. It takes one time for that. Squirrels shoot. What do you call it? Late you need to hundred jumps before you came attempt to put on a squirrel suit. But you plan on doing that. Of course, that's going to be the end of your move. When don't fuck into it. What you parachute onto nor do you. Yes. Of course. Okay. Jimmy. Squirrel, suits. So you're not even impressed. Now, you're like. Would you do that thing in Dubai they do by just they don't have care about safety? Like they have those things on the top of the Burj tower where you jump off. They have like a bungee jumping would you do that stuff? Of course, where does that come from member when he was in Kabul like you just do anything like anything he won't do? He didn't have a great feeling with. He didn't have a great experience. Maybe you did. But the Dane white looking for a fight usually a party Dana had fucking vertigo that weekend, and he was like out here. So it just kind of. Rely on our having fun and then down to go out and you to smoke bomb me already. We're well into our forties. Cowboys like getting started talking twenty years. What's going on? I see what won't you? What have you said? No. That's too dangerous. I don't think there's much and now nothing it's just a need for Trenton. I love it. You do. It's like a sickness. What did you do when you're a kid same shit the same? Jungle, gyms and. Crazy, just I love it, man. So so fun. She never ask you not to do that stuff anymore. But he did for a while yet for a long time. What happened you get the concern phone call than the angry phone call had of the worst text me like seriously like I'll still be there Saturday fighting. Okay. Kid still calls me kid. But yeah, he doesn't do it anymore. It's I mean like in our rules. There's no snowmobiling no snowboarding. No horseback, riding like all the cra- shit. I do every day. It's like what I do all this on a normal day to day. Like, I couldn't not do that. So they just got. I think I have the. I can't wave believing in a, you know, what's big in the in the Sarah household, a nice lazy Sunday. Do you have any? Lazy is that not put today's times? Just sit back gave us the Harry Potter film today, and you know, mommy, order gino's later. You don't do that. If I went down like two hours of my day sleeping is minimal. You know? We drive a lot. We play a lot just what we do and your wife likes to do the same. I just like the picture of your Instagram. It was you and your wife and your like that's might lioness or something like that. It was a nice pitcher guys out in the snowmobile on. Yeah. Just cool. How primal picture of her just like looking over my bag man is it was a cool shot. It was a cool shot. Like, she has your back. She and she plays hard with me. She's right there. Yeah. Like scuba diving. She's that's my die, buddy. Right. She goes, she's she's just a certified as I am. So how'd you meet her at a bar took a Reshad Evans in Amarillo, Texas. There's a shark fights. I don't know if you guys remember the short fights. But they were in town tap out. Was there we were doing like a tour and there's a country bar. I said for shod listen as a country bar into back. They gotta hip hop section. He's like I cal- let go and I met her that night at the bar. She couldn't resist my dance moves. Are you burn the souls in the boots? That's also man now, you made a human being, isn't that amazing brings you closer? You know, like you made a human, right? It's awesome. It is awesome. Were you there for the birth? Oh, yeah. Of course. And did you did you cry? Now cry pass out pussies like me do that. Jim. Now, you wanna pass out to they say, they see it happen. They went out. I mean, it was it wasn't real until the fight until I thought Perry. That's the one hit home. I fuck. Yeah. You brought them into the cage yesterday. But I mean, just like being backstage. That's when I cried when I sent me a picture of Mobutu bell buckle. And I was like oh. Yeah. Yeah. He probably never felt you have a feel those emotions before never easy insane. So three oh now is it different than you thought. It'd be. Yeah. Definitely good. She's so good. I like changing diapers and feeding and breaking up like sometimes she has to work. She's going to school to be a doctor. So she got to go do fourteen hour shifts. And I'm like, what do I do with it all day? I'm good like an hour. But then like, I don't when it cries and wakes up, and he fed and cries again, it's like Tammy little pastor. You don't wanna put you on a bowl. Right. Do you panic like I'm not gonna be able to handle it us? Something happens now. No. I'm not worried about something like that happening. But just how do I get into quit crying? That's you know, what do you do put him on the floor, and then player, this toys and shit. Do you home syndrome? That's a seeing. He's really good kid cry very often. He's only if something's wrong, you know. But he's cool. I bought him horse expensive ass horse. So eight months old they're gonna grow up together and pretty excited about it. Have you kind of held a monitor ready? Yeah. He'd been all around them all around him. Is this motivating you you Jimmy? No, no. I mean, listen to me. There's no nice to hear those things that you got to get going on which you you gotta start the training. It. Free. Now, the women I like don't have kids. Physically Cowboys ready for that. He's not ready. Women like every time. I see you told you this before every time. I see you hanging out with her brother. Right. And you'll be doing some wild shot loved. I be below. You know, you do in one day man, you're gonna hang, but you're sure some wild shit. I'm trying to think what the brothers thing. But that because I know we don't do while they do it. Well, we gotta you gotta be jumping out of planes. I will hang carriage rides. That's why that's exactly why you would. You'd sit you'd come out, and you'd watch from the car, and then you move up to the to the plane, and you back, I you guys made it I fuck it. Next time, I'm gonna do it. And then next time you're gonna do it. 'cause I got you. I got him other snowmobile and swimming, everything fun. Would you jump out of the plane? The first time the doors open is it is it hard to get yourself to go the first time. No. Because the training the training is so thorough, and you are so skilled in well because first of all when I took these guys skydiving for the first time, they didn't get a jump tandem with a buddy I made them jump solo by themselves. Do you need more hours of training? Three day. Course, you gotta go. Learn figure out what's wrong and go through all the steps. But then they opened that door and fucking go time, man. I always thought it'd be hard to breathe falling out of plane because we didn't win. There's wind rushing on your face. You were able to breathe on a problem. I mean your first job. It's like. Holy fuck. What was that? And then you're shoots open and you're just slowly fallen earth. Unless of course, you it starts off like that. There's an open fucking dead. The thing doesn't open right? You just click. The don't like box pull the light, boss. You're next shoot comes out to backups, right? One one backup. And let's just say you're in like a whirlwind spinning, and you don't even pull your shooting automatic release it fifteen hundred he's gonna blow. Jimmy big pussy. Yes. I know there'd be a problem. I know I'd pull it. I would just feel. I would just be holding a strange people. There are people that that splat what what is your well now function either malfunction over they're just pushing the limits. Oh, right or or they're colliding. Hitting kids in the room. But it's almost like that game Jimmy likes to play with the belt and the ship has out a little while. Yeah. Yeah. You can push the limits with that David Carradine was my favorite actress saying so you don't want to around the same. The better you get at anything further. You want to push the envelope. Right. So that's that's what it would. You do a high low jump those the halo jump. Yeah. So, hey, let's star at twenty five thousand thirty five thousand what are you open at ten thousand not probably in less than that. They probably they probably run it all the way to six five thousand feet. Yeah. You don't need. You don't need, you know, twelve thousand feet to decelerate. There was a footage of news footage of a guy who jumped out of twenty five thousand feet with no shoot into a net as cool. Yeah. It was. Yeah. He he jumped into a net. And it was guys that went down with them for a little while to kind of guide him, and he had no shoot on. And then when they got to a certain height to open their shoes. And then he just fell to a big net. It was I don't know how high the net was, but it just it collapsed with him and around him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even think I'd go on one of those hot air balloons. No. Kill me. I don't know. Why would you just? The scenery dean Thomas said that God that we are looking for a fight. That's our next venture out air balloons, my greatest fears at the guy running the balloon as a heart attack. And I just keep going up and up in is not happening man how what are those vortex? Sorry, odds joke is fucking. They went to prison. What are what are those Texas people? Get caught up in. They do the paragliding or there's some there's a hot air rising vortex. You can get caught up in where people get sucked up into the atmosphere. You can get caught that while skydiving as well. But yeah, for sure so what do you do if that happens? With your skydiving and can pull you back up just with your shooting. I really pull you back up with us. The thermal clients are real rough. So that's what's so far man that shit. I don't do any of it. You know, Jimmy. So fighting is like it's just one more thing out of ten that you do that just kind of gets you that whatever that dopamine level you need to feel normal. Yeah. But it's probably number one. It is a one can love it. I love it. Why is it is it because it a crowd you'd ever anticipation is even sitting here fight? We'd cut in the weight doing the interviews making the weight eating senior family fight night nerves tunnel walk. Cheers standing across the cage. Fucking go time. The first punch. I punch raised interview. Man. It's cool. It's weird me. No matter. How many times you've done it? Like when when you're indicating they're announcing it's almost like the feeling, right? There could be different almost every sometimes you cools acute comes from ninety. Plus what's going through your head? Right. There is usually it's strange, isn't it, right? Because you can't. How many times you've been here? It's a different experience about like mental imagery and trying to visualize. But it's different every time. There's nothing you can do to recreate it. You can't really recreate were. Explain it to somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like we're here. Now, everything leads up to this either be the best. Neither the words because it's not it's not the same as getting in a fight downstairs. That's like right now of calling the moment. Anybody? You don't have the you know, how the eight weeks of thinking about another guy of training. You know, what I mean like the wait waiting in the waiting back waiting in the back. Hurry up fights trying to figure out what the right warm-up year. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy game. It's fun. Because if you have a fight like see you're in the main event and the Coleman is it ends with a knockout in the first round. I mean, you're going a lot sooner than you thought. Especially when you're like, all right. We have twenty five minutes from this last fight. Oh shit. It's time we rolling then they come out. You're in on in five you're on a four hour works. Right. They just tell you time ago. Yeah. You can't just pump the brakes, and it's one of the biggest things when you see a guy going from killing on the the minor leagues. Then he gets into the UFC is the energy around him. You got a nervous energy from people that trying to do their job making a show run. Right. You guys are on four. You got your their energy? You learn that's one thing. You learn what the experience the shut that off is not stalling without me. If I gotta take a shit. I'll think. The nerves gone right with my cop. Yeah. Right. Dean, tom. But you're right because like in a smaller shows, you can kind of dictate and it's just like some dude he walked you're you're not even on a hold on a level is let's just say dean, this is your first or your second fight in the AFC, your coaches, and the people that are with you or so like amped up in won't pushing you to win like we have to do this. You've got to do that. Right. So you're kind of like man back the fuck up. Give me give you almost too much to you know. So it's it's it's a lot to do that. Because you know, as a person who fought before I have that experience to know widow overwhelming coach does so I have to make sure back off the fighter and just giving us or overwhelming family. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the worst. There's nothing like your jungle. Louis come into like you'll man. I know you're calling me all night on Thursday. No, I can't go fucking beer with you. Yeah. Gets people. Fucker? You know what I mean? Do you change what your family and friends understand is they in their mind they bought their ticket? They bought the hotel. They're coming to see you. You fucking prick. Why can't you come down and meet me in the lobby for five minutes? Like you'll man. This is my show. Exactly. You gotta be selfish. You have to my show. No fucking in bed. I'm sleeping. I don't wanna go to dinner with you. Thanks for coming citing. You know what? I mean. I'm I apologize. But yeah, I've learned over the years. It takes time years to figure it out to say, no, you have to say, no this fight night. And that people you get text. What do you got? What are you doing after the fight? No, I got it. It might be could be in the hospital. The corner talking like my while wanna what time you think you get back to I have. No, I might be in the hospital. My guy I might be miserable. Like if I fights early and he loses. I don't I don't stick. If I could get out of jail, ROY, right? Oh, Lovie wins. It's just you're out. You're it's it's such a drastic thing of emotions worse for the fighter. But because the sure but it's worse for the for the corner guys too because you roller coaster. You're not thinking about to even if they come back before a fighter show. You're not thinking about that. But yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Good. Thanks. You're like looking past them. You have something. You don't wanna see them? Anyway, not gonna be a good interaction with our neighbor where we going. We're where's the spouse or hitting after the fight? He's actually man. I don't know. I'll tell you what I'm probably going to do go to fuck a bed. Oh, yeah. That's what always see I think that the public and especially media. They don't understand fighters. You have to have done it or be around them a lot to really understand them. Because people don't understand them. Like, you said, they they come in to see you think that you are. Air to see them, and they know him wildcard. So they're like, let's let's charge it up and go, and I'm like, man. I'm tired tired. Tired fucking tell the exciting for you to be in Vegas this weekend. You got it the past from your wife, but I got a a guy trying to hurt me on Saturday morning. I've been I've been concerned about this for the last two months adding dieting all week, and then I'll have to put all my energy into fifteen minutes. And now it's over, and you expect me to go out and party, man. And that's that's talking about women for a minute. That's finding. I'm so glad I met my girl early in my career and she's been through this roller coaster like when I say, hey, I'm going to Boston for three months of training. She's like cool. You don't go fucking bother me. She lets me do my thing. But I see all these new guys the ranch they them they get these new girlfriends, and they disappear in the girls. Like, you're not spending time on me. I need you. So girls are listening. Fuck you gotta give these guys their space. Man. You gotta let them. To do what the fuck they got did because our mindset is. So like crazy, right? We're crazy motherfucker for getting in there. And then I got you nagging on me trying to weigh me down and tell me what I know bitch shut the fuck up. I'm about to go kill him on the fucker Ladele was gonna fight one time in the girl was hit him with an ashtray the night before or something he has. Smashed them drunk. Yeah. Went on one. But I mean, it's the night before a fight. They just don't or anything. They just don't understand like leaving alone. You're not giving me the time. I need. It's just like I mean, Sarah, you know, like your wife your Vegas for the weekend. Yeah. Like in your mind. You're like, yes. You'd give me earn her mind. She's like, yeah. She's giving you a hall Bashar going to biggest in your mind. You're like man, I'm going to take them a smash Poesie in fog and party. Like, no, a wish you women could come with us and see how much no fun. We have you ain't that the truth. It's no fun. It's we don't we're not we're not in Vegas style. And e no, we're free chicken boiled chicken. You know, what I mean, you guys may as coaches, maybe sneak away and gator get something down there in the lobby. You know what I mean? But it's not late nights sauna. Couldn't wait working out fight day. Figuring out how you want to go. Do what you wanna do visually? You're with your guy after the fight. Everyone's in bed. Yeah. It's Vegas to five AM flight. The next morning news, though, it's like and these girls, especially the young. Fighters are like your Vegas. You're gonna fucking fuck is needed relaxing chill. Man. You have the thing too. There was the old the old fighters will you don't fuck the week of the fighter on all the time. I don't know. I don't believe in that shit either. Yeah. I've heard different things about it. Listen, I don't want to be the fun police, but we said half an hour. He's gotta get uptown. It's very very gracious to on to question three you guys. Did you ever have to piss or shit? Once you got inside every never inside. But as soon as I put my Cup on. I gotta be. So you have to stop it. It's a ritual right can joke money put it on they wrap your hands. Dammit, not piss and then trying to do the poll down cook dick out. I I to get a beer date because it just doesn't it's hard to get out of the Cup and maneuver around. I don't know auto you just pull the Cup aside at stand straight outlets. Gary pull this side. Couple of side you're wearing like like a tight. So you got four everything down. So you're listening to like a five year old of the onnell. I still Stanley. Before. Yeah. All right. Listen cowboy thanks so much. I'm sorry about it. Alexander Hernandez this Saturday night. And he didn't wanna make sure I get Sarah said the young hungry lion. Yes, come unto the throne that do that alone. Listen, it's gonna be fireworks. That kid is come in. And you always come to fight. We've listened Beardon OB. We love you cowboy door for old guys man door for the old guys. That'd be a weirdo being called the you're not because you don't see. Well, you know, I mean, but for thirty five sport I mean, but hey, I've been to the top of the game the whole career. So fuck you fuck years. Right. You both fighting for something. I mean, he's if he beats you it's it's a huge name for him to be the biggest name. He's fig if it's a big block. And and if you beat him, I probably get you a top five five both have something. This is a big fight for both you and unlike the Thomas, I think you match up very, well, we'll compete. All right. Listen cowboy for coming in. Let's take a break. That was great. Thank you to cowboy throwing I I love talking to him. He's just a really really interesting guy. And he is crazy. He's he's not just all anyone who fights his kind of crazy. Yeah. But way, he lives. Yeah. There's to know you're going to do that and to train for that into volunteer to get kicked Pont you. It's it's a crazy way to make a fucking living. So it'd be a fireman. But the idea that he jumps out of planes just adds to. He's just insane wants to wear a squirrel suit. I don't blame them for wanting to. I would love to do that we fund to fly for the digital. They do a parachute. Oh, so you you're not gonna fall parachute. I dunno kill when they railway a squirrel suit where you. Spite of me and suit when he has this love on the. Yeah. And you can just kind of fly around for a little bit giants strode on your back. Looks like he's gonna play a video. It's insane. And these guys will do it and they get killed when they hit mountains or trees or whatever 'cause you're zipping through the air. And so if you if you hit something you're finished nothing. Nothing. Nothing. It doesn't when I see it. It doesn't strike me as something like that. It looks really fun though. You know, I'll do it on virtual reality. I'm not doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, look at this. Yes. See that thing. Look like, a squirrel. That thing is a parachute. You fuck up. If you hit the rocks or something, you're dead. It's a video game one one. They're going so fast. How do you land? Yeah. Then probably with a parachute. You I mean, they're going over a mountain. You really have to know what you're doing do what this guy watching a video of a guy going right over the top of the mountain. But then he goes higher and now the parachute. I'm sure help him if he wanted to help them. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it looks really fun straight up a little bit too to catch. More wind slow yourself down. Yeah. I know. I would I here's what I would do. I would put my arm into its my ear, and I would want it to spiraling fucking asshole. How close to the mountain while he is like this. This guy is you know, he's probably doing one hundred twenty miles an hour or so miles an hour. That's how those guys get Weisgall. You call one of those death wishes. I'm not into that shit. Jimmy. Hey, do your your guy by d not neither my is. In is in the co main. Yeah, we hardly prize. Yes. Greg card three and all I think he has heavyweight fighter. Tremendous punch. How much wrestling is he prepared for or ju jitsu or so here's here's what happened. You know, I had a stat guide do some stats on certain fighters on how much time they actually spend wrestling sorta I in fight. So that was how I kind of based my time we put in on wrestling. And it's about fifty percent. So we spend about fifty percent of the time wrestling. So this guy he's fighting ice fighting Alan Crowder is ninety three. So he's definitely got a good amount more experience. I don't know how many you have see fights. But he was a football player before. And did he fight amateur before that or did he just play football? And then decide to do this who Greg cardinal he and three amateur fights. He did you hear three amateur for? I mean. Mean like before he got into a until it got when he was playing football. No, no, no. He wasn't. He wasn't training at all when he's playing football. But well, he so when he started training he actually played in like Richmond. So he had like went back and played like some like smaller league to do that. But like when he was planning NFL wasn't. He wasn't training at all. How did you guys? Meet. They brought him in Malka, you know, mount he knocking Callard too. Yeah. Yeah. Look at why are you like that? Is he does he did? He used to sell cars or snake oil. What does that guy? It just sounds. He just talks really fast. He's a nice he tossed, but he's an AJ. From first round management. So they brought him in. And you know, we we have a good situation as far as like living arrangements. So. So they brought him in and he lived in dorms for two years. And he still does. Now, you just the guy like a mercenary was as far as your training. Like, you don't have to get to know anybo-. You just don't you're there are you there? Just for the paycheck. Dean thomas. I'm sure I mean, you might be close with some people if you like a fucking Volk it's getting goes to anybody. Right now, I have some tomorrow. He's like who's who's gonna look for a fight? Fuck that sometimes sometimes on listen, I prefer I prefer to care about them before preferred. But you don't give a shit to sometimes like if they go. Hey, well, you know, I mean like your job coaching. We get a lot of like we get rushing come coming all the time. I don't even have conversations with. But I still got to train them got still work with them. But then like the guys that lived there like I have to like them to work with them new because it would obviously come through a little personality things. There's no way to do it. If you don't like him. But that's why that's why like we're working with the Russians is good. Because you know, I don't know how with the personalities because we never have a conversation. It's just training. So do you do you? Obviously, you watch demand is fight. Yeah. Of course. I and how amazing was that? Oh, man. I mean, even I was surprised. You fast was fast. No one thought I run. I'm sorry. No, no, one thought to be the first one. Sean. I mean, if you thought it was gonna be a first round knockout, you thought it would be the other way around. I had to pick to my decision. Did you really yes? What happened? How can you know work on on the mall? Fight hard to know that go right to the. Got doors gotten reports like I scout all her opponents up scout scouted. Every when our opponents since take dean mother f in Thomas, you don't need to be in anybody's. You know, you don't need to have your face at a corner is what I'm saying. I think I think trying to say, no. Com. Maybe you're too busy. When it took about your partner, j the second part of it is that you say because I don't like I don't have to like them. Sometimes I it comes a lot. You know? Sometimes it comes off as I don't like people because I don't hold fighters hands. You know what I'm saying? So like if I'm not there a lot because I'm busy I'm running around doing something fighters like we need somebody who's a little bit more attentive. She wanted to be more president who has been so. Yeah, maybe so and no, no, no, no. Maybe like we're just kind of like, we goofed around a lot. And like, maybe she can't take me serious. Okay. I think that might have a lot to do with it too. So when you scout cyborg. You you go you watch you watch your fight something like cyborg. What do you say to a man? That's like, okay. This is how you can beat her. Well, I had my ideas. And was I listen, you know, Kasai bore, you know, she's she's solid. You know what I mean? Like she's like prior to this fight like even when she got hit. She was able to take it. Well, and she barely got hit. Like, I got a Harley home hit her seventeen percent of the time. She only hitter seventeen percent. So she's very difficult to hit. So I was like we gotta strike. Yeah. For sure. So like the goal was for me. Like, I didn't I wasn't all that important in her cammo wouldn't like important piece of her camp. But I said you gotta be able to hit her. That's the key. If you can't hit it in, obviously, I know it sounds like, you know, the obvious should really it's like you gotta be able to when you throw shots. You gotta just touch her. Gotta be accurate, and she was and she so aggressive cyborg. It's to the point of being practically predictable. It's almost like you end. Eventually Silva is not like he's going to get on his bicycle was getting away from me. He's usually gonna book and come out, you'll Tasmanian harder. That's what she does. And. I liked how Amanda brought a Br brought that up when afterwards when we talked to her how she knew if she tagged her get ready for to come forward, and then or some more and she did look easing. I think it meant is that she didn't get hurt. But it looked like cyborgs stunner wants to look like there was a time. I remember it was a right or left. But it looked like she did kind of hurt her really on. She hit her. You know, she hit her like they both at each other almost like at the same time and Amanda recovered quicker. She got back on her. She got her legs onto her quicker. And that's one of the things she decided to go. You know what let's do this. Let's stand toe to toe, and that's the prize to me. Well, a man I meant a new cyborg is going to bring as far as strength. Maybe maybe suburb. Underestimated amend is power. She had to she had. I mean, why wouldn't you when you think an odor coming up from wait, you know, and you know, cyborgs never been like I said she barely gets hit. And when she does get hit. It's never clean. Why would you why would you twenty straight wins? Why would you expect that we don't know now? Yes, she won't she will know now. But she does she had Halle Berry in the audience whenever you have a celebrity. And there if I have a guy or woman, I'm trying to date comes in and watch it before my who who was highly. Therefore, I think she was ever sidewalk. She's she's got a movie coming out to she was training at cyborgs, GMC sheep. Don King switcheroo came with a mandate. That's what to me. I mean. I could be wrong. All listen. I respect that. Because that's the that's the exact reason. I don't go to Jimmy sets because I'll have a celebrity friend in the audience. Yeah. And he'll be like, I don't wanna make you nervous batching you. Yeah. He holds me in that high regard. I know he worked with calls him. Bobby deniro? Yeah. But listen, I would think. I don't wanna make him feel like he's gonna let me down for Joel bomb i-it's virtual well. Well, we'll try I went and supported him because he's my friend Jimmy. But in other words, he's not going to get nervous with you in the really that would never follow. But. You know, what it really pains me to give you a compliment. But I'm going to do it. I was watching. Now, I seen you on on on Rogan's podcast, which was good. That's great. That's fun. You know, like both you guys. Oh, yeah. So that's why buddies. Yeah. You know, and I I skip through till here my name, and I listened to that. And then I, you know, I'm sure the rest of it was good. Thanks. Early. That's not me had to come up early. But listen you were talking about your online, you're BJ online site. Was it an apt in the cat is a website here. Now, I was ready to shit on it. Because listen now, this is a compliment. This is give you a compliment. I just watched your I want to talk about what is actually it is because I thought it was just geared for BJ for MMA. I wasn't sure. And you didn't you didn't do a great job talking about it on on Joe Rogan? No offense. Finished minutes compliment because how are you? Like the shank hear me. Kidding? A map to complement. And I literally lead watched it lead. By literally watched it when I go. At Penn station. Just now I want to your Instagram poker. And it was you showing a scene and you will wearing a wig. So I was about to shit on you because I thought it was a shitty improv blended. I what is this BG online is shitty improv together with some horrible technique. I was about I listen, I got a call it the way I see Jimmy. Because this doesn't say what did you say? It does not see Comoro lead. Jim you don't want people at home. But the thing is this. I know my shit Jim being Thomas I've been on the Mets. I watched the thing that you would the wig on any any. And it was it was basically street self defense for when it's the hatless knife three girls. This was great. It was deemed a wig. Fighting forty Jim Norton. So it was no girls. What are you see all the time on these on these streetfighting videos, and whatever, you know, I don't wanna give anybody plugs for that. But you know, they watched the girls like pulling hair and beating the crap out of each other. It's very common in a Crotty studio. Whatever you don't, you know, you don't really see them addressing type of punching people in the face, and this and that so usually pull away he showed on this video the proper, and you never see it the proper technique how to bend the arm get that coins. If you're attacked in this. Yes. And that's what it's made for jitsu. So how come you didn't talk about this on your Rogan? I know I know your shit. I'd have a great opportunity. You know, even though we talked for three hours went by so fast did like by the time. We got to talk to you it. It was like oh my God. Did you make it through the whole Rogaine without pissing? I can't do a Rogan without pissing three times. Get high test coffee me man, I give a tiny little bladder. Yeah. Me too. But I got it out, man. I got it out. Wait a second. Man was I you talking about Camelback thrown fuck online academy. I wanna know. What exactly is it tell you? What told Joe Rogan that man people aren't using jitsu? And they did it. You didn't do it the best show that will cause us as it said, it doesn't work ju jitsu doesn't work. You take down your pets? You your mouth them? It doesn't. I'm like, wait a second. What the fucking? So basically what I'm saying? There are different types of jitsu. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And so well, let me go ahead. My man is here. So I got I got the floor manager Kenny Kim from Atlanta. So we did a seminar coal millers. And and you know, he's a gay guy and you'll have to vet was whole Miller. Yeah. UFC vent Coleman. Okay. So. Kenny the gay guy. And he's got a tremendous academy in Atlanta so coal brought us into a seminar, his academy. So like, I'm doing the MA stuff and he's doing a gay stuff. So then months after once house when you call up say, hey, man, we'd need to collaborate because it's true, man. Like when you think about jitsu like it just kinda disconnected somewhere. Where like the geese stuff went this way. The MMA stuff went this way. And then everybody's still forgot about the self defense stuff. It's taboo, words self like. Ooh, I wanna do something that. Yeah. Go sounds like the way they sold karate thirty years ago. But it really is. It reminds people what it is. It's it's why people fell in love with you to like the purest for sure because it's what works we're packing today. People to know what works so Brazilian you to works in real life situation. It absolutely works. But the way a lot of people learn it now from the beginning, it's not gonna work because they're not learning how to deal with situations like that you can pull guard and go for a leg lock. But if you can't get out of a headlock punching hundred ahead, you are not going to be. You're not gonna work 'cause you're still in a place that you can't get out of. So in our in our online academy we address every situation we're trying to address all the situations. Whether it's self defense Jiu jitsu forever may engine for competition. How headlock if a guy on a train and had I can get out of a headline. What if he's a big guy? I can still do it. I hope somebody puts me in a guy. I pray somebody attacks me, I prayed, I want them. I wish I had a longer neck get I don't have much of a neck, so. Going to do that. Anyway, where how do you mix it up? Is it like I go online. And I go on there is it. All right. I'm gonna go. All right. I wanna learn about this or it's whatever you give me tell go online. And that we have it. We have it sectioned off into subjects where it's like. Yeah. Jitsu for major for competition for self defense. And we were breaking it down and it subscription base on what constantly adding techniques to it. If guest appearances, and we wanna have some guests to pay. I'd like to get you on their kid to get my name out something going, you don't say I'd like to be honest victim. Something tells me you're going to be wearing. Yes. The guest victim. But I think the self defense stuff is the stuff that people be most interested in because most people who are training to fight have a trainer in. There's a lot of places to go for the self defense is where you're gonna get to play a lot of people who don't know anything about fighting over never fought like myself. And that's what we wanna four is the fact that you're on the subway, and there's a guy who just got released from Rikers making eye contact like what do I do with this guy? Fucking grabs me. Well, I mean, and that's what I'm getting a lot of now. Like a lot of my buddies who don't train a lot on. My improv nerd friends. Always like men. That's great. Gimme more than that. You know, like, I don't care about all the all this other fancies have give me more and that stuff. That's what I need. Even I watch more of those videos of the streetfight videos. Not that I liked that. I like to see what's out there. And what's what's what's happening? Why is this guy? Getting why the greatest knockouts will these guys their body positionings is about to be disguising clearly in your endanger, right now, this guy doesn't even know you guys endanger, and they don't even know it. Yes. Far as guy squaring. Within their body postures all wrong, their stances, just all they're all open. It's not like they have to sit there with their hands outlet get ready for but it's just. But. Swinging today pullbacks I loved when you when you just did that video you wear in the fucking wig with a self defense for the girls, and then we trying to pull away with their then I can out of you could use. This is Erik Paulsen back in nineteen seventy seven I James wearing WCC. You don't want to talk about. He's fucking awesome. This guy's an old school fire. And I had a great career. He's one of the unsung heroes. He's a pioneer and. He back and he was an tournament where Hensel ended up winning the tournament. We'll. World combat something it was w CCN something. I don't know. I it lasted one event. But Hensel one the thing he ended up beating a guy James wary. Who's a big heavyweight boxer us? He was a kick. But he's actually flurry in Florida. Now, it was a bad game man do for sure he wrapped Erik Paulsen air force at a law. Had a long ponytail, right? He wrapped it up around his head. Shoot out of him. And he was like apartment a better martial artists. Dodie he he could use that video out of it. You're right. Did not know how to get out of who's trying to pull away. Yeah. He's trying to pull away thinking he could just rip the hair out of say don't pull away. No, golden, please go to Thomas's Instagram, Chris, the producer. Thank you. Krista producer yellow I want to see this. I don't have hair. Right here. Put the sound on the people here. What are you putting anything on there that can't be on me or anything? I don't think. So I don't wanna get sued. Not thomas. Let's see. This is all you follows went off that look Joe. Thanks, john. Thanks, Joe Rogan that one day. I was fighting not yet one that one right there. They click on that. And let's see if we could hear it. Let's let the audience what's going on. Very common problem. That's the new character to dean quesion girl. Probably guys with long hair. They will in donor how to deal with it. So I haven't. Like this. So the worst thing you can do is pull away you're not gonna break the grip by pulling away. So this is how you handle that situation when they grab your hair like this. You obviously got hit so many like this then. Then the arm on in. Right around the way. So when you step in you put your head right in the chest because they can't pull your hair from this. This problem not pull away when a grant they better. Dean Thomas, people say hit this thing. Too much. That's the applause, that's the applause button, blah, appreciate in this room. I'm hit me. That's not a slow club. You know, why? Because I'm Chris wideman shown to my kids today. Nothing. I see your your son ethan's hair right now show it to him before you leave this fucking room. Well, actually. Yeah. Yeah. He knows five four back in the day dot on your head against the rules. But I'll be doing my mcgregor's Kabibi cheating like a month. Well, he knows like he has this. And this is what he trains trains like the self defense portion. That's all you need is kids. Hey, he's got a nice head of hair. I know everyone. Everyone's always got better hair to you might man. I love that technique though. 'cause that's all about me. And you know, what I mean like I said that all the time. I it's that simple. But that's affected. That's why like team Thomas. He simple yet effective. Yes, I'm gonna take something. I gotta Distin case. I'm a man cost me on the subway. But the problem is like if you go to school, depending on where you go like, you might go into might be a competition bay school, and that that won't really necessarily help you for the streets. Yeah. So like, you wanna make sure that you can go somewhere where you can actually, you know, learn how to defend yourself, right? And if you don't, hey, go to the website train BJ online dot com. Yeah. I would always I think if I had to obviously just trained with the game not gate for what am I going to be professional fighter? Trainer. Had with a gay like a train without one. I one. Out of shape, but with dean's trying to say like what what his point with that is there's some guys that way with the key. And they don't they'll just treat it like sporty in a sense where they'll do moves with that gay like, dude, I there's some things out there. Like, I'm not talking. I had Keenan Keenan Cornelius at my school did a seminar. Nice kid dangerous. I like them. But I mean, there's certain moves or it is like worm guards and had taken the anything that you have to start on dressing the guy and taking his long, I got to me the Giza jacket, like I'll strangle the sky the same way with a north face jacket on as I will what is key Jack. It's a jacket, and you could use a jacket to manipulate balance. You could use it to strangle. But once you're taking it out, your feeding it through, and I'm going man, you lost me. Now. It's getting fucking weird. I can't break the grip. But you know, I had the fuck really just undress. It was a weird. It is possible. If I'm wearing this hoodie to strangle me with the hoods. Silly question. Beat up. Anybody told guy? Majority of people of. Guys, got me confused, and you know, and misconstrued what I was the point. I was trying to make like I have nothing like, I'm just guy. But I have nothing against like sport competitions. You think it's beautiful. I think it's the best. It's ever been and Keno canoes is great. But you know, a lot of that stuff. When you're learning it from the beginning, it's not gonna work in the street. It's not practically say something about the point system introduced to on. No, no, no, no, no, no all in about the point system. Is it like MMA guys are they sometimes they confuse that with you know, doing jujitsu forever may like they're trying to get points. They're gonna positions that would give them points introduced sue. And I was saying that you shouldn't you should focus on punching a guy and his face and knocking his fucking teeth out of his mouth too. But, but you jitsu like, for instance, with that the mentality by mentality of the say, I'd say IB JJ F rules of two points. Take down three points pass a God. Forbid a position the best points. You get the most points. You get hooks in the back flat hooks in both hoax or mounts. Okay. Right. If you have that mentality, and you could say watch fighting for points. No. But the most points for the better position for a fight. So yeah, maybe I'm fighting for points. It might serve me in the Ivy JJ, but it's also going to serve me in a real fight because these points are based on what's best in a real fight. Yeah. For sure like like, my thing is if you get somebody if you could. Yeah. Yeah. If you can get to the mount. Yeah. That's great one hundred percent. But sometimes I get an MA fight. It just takes too long. It just takes too long chess. Speech just kind of go fast. And then you have the ref telling you to hurry to make a move you not have enough. Yes. Matched. Right. Hurry. That's not the same thing. People say, it's chess. It is. But sometimes being strategic is letting the guy if you have like an hour match. It's a total different like mentality. Jitsu relies the old school Torrance Gracie Gracie brothers where survival and guys mount them and get you know, tire a guy out like Elliott, gracie's nee. Get him what he's week which doesn't. It's not, you know, that's not really great mass. That's not that's not going to help you. Is that a w and that's you know, it's not gonna help you. M either I can think because I had that mentality. When I was I lost about five fights having that mentality. You just losing losing getting getting pulling guard waiting and waiting and waiting rounds over. Yeah. He right before I fought him. Jimmy. We fought them the same card where we had a four. We had a light man tournament myself with Thomas we were two of that guys in that tournament at it started with me fighting BJ pen and him fighting Ono cow. Great Kowloon, another unsung hero. Yup. Who had wars with pen for sure? And he was a just a talented guy that a lot of people never heard of on fortunately Japan. I'm sure he's the alleged. But, you know, tough guy and Tina battles would who know, you know. And so I lost the BJ. Okay. And then I then dean lost. No. But when he lost to him. It was weird because he kept pulling guard he pulled guard. So then I had the next to the two guys. It was. So I'm like, listen, I hope this guy. He's gonna pull guard again. He's gonna pull guard again. And when he does eat them up. I was wait, dude. It was like trying to capture lightning that was all over muggy blessed. And now, I was like I am not pulling guarding pull guard because I I knew that you had better jujitsu than noted like it would always crafty on top. But he didn't have the accurate that you have. Well, I didn't get on. You're not pulling guard. And it didn't work out. Great for me. I got cut off the cut after that. Listen to we all got cut. They dropped a division. We all got cut after this. Not true dean, Tom, but you got caught after that fight. Yeah. We all. Did they jumped a division? Remember BJ all of us. They they they know they did it after that a the division. But then they brought it back. That's how I got back. I guess we both came back on fighters season four I came back before you did. Yeah. You didn't come back since then. No the fuck. I was your last fight. Then he brought you back for the final four. It's weird that at all. Yes. It's. That's not true. No, they probably back. If I can't pseudo. Oh, did they didn't happen? Well, me I was supposed to fight gangqi pseudo too. We had him shook that work. I wish I did. Because I he pulled out three weeks before and then BJ stepped in. And that's when I for BJ, listen who want bested both of us want a brick. This kid is here and you bring that up Jimmy. But but he did say you want the strongest do you have a locked up with? Yeah. I was young in scrappy back. Then you won't. Yeah. I was like a sophisticated. We hit. Do you another like? You did wear a do ragle. Yeah. We'll do rag. We we we show Faulk. It's getting late. Let's picks me the time to go down to Maryland mind. Now, I don't want to forget to let's do it. Let's do it time who's fighting play the picks music. Title. No, let's do something. I'm breaking beef jerky. My side, I'm not gonna eat Rome. Saw denounce hungry. Do the first pick. What's call robust is less. You fights Roberson to Sherry's. The first fight on the main card and card media Carl Robertson stepped in for young kouteh lobby. Wait is this. Yeah. Isn't it Roberson? Denny fight. It a welterweight last time. No he was at middle middle. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's fine. He's he's he's been up and down you. But anyway, but he's stepping in. He stepped in on January eleventh, replacing the end catella. So his last fight was a unanimous decision. Win over Jack Marsh, Jack marksman I thought he fought amid a wave his role. No, yeah. No, it's middleweight. And then global has he he knocked out Michel circuit off. And then lost to Corey Anderson by unanimous decision. This was easy to share a second round knockout. Oh, man. I don't know. I'm gonna go with to shared decision. Doing the same as the great dean Thomas decision. Yeah. Global? Okay. Although limited to write it down. I'm gonna take lover by. Yeah. I'm gonna go second round knockout, also because he's preparing for Cousy lava who's an animal Robertson isn't. But that guy just keeps trying to take your head off. So he's probably preparing for that type of foot and the next fight is. How do you say your name is an ostrich Rachel Austin? I guess paid van Damme. Making a she's coming back after that. I guess she had arm surgery. Yes. She broke her forearm, and then it healed improperly incorrectly. And they have to go back in. Yeah. So that was her last fight and then Rachel ostriches coming off of a. She got rear naked choke loss to Montana de LA Rosa in her last night. And then obviously she had some out of competition incident with their husbands and stuff. But she she is ready to fight. I'm gonna take page by decision because she was basically fighting with what Armin that last fight. Okay. I also like page, but I think I think page finishes are somehow how dean Thomas around. I'm gonna. For now, you know what she's not gonna finish this? You're gonna win by decision. Page will win by decision. Third round Rennick choke based on the same card as Rachel ostriches. Father. Are you serious back in wide? I think I'm older than you to held you forty to me. I swear it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck I'm gonna take rich lots of by decision. I think she's like superman not the pages that motivated, but I think Rachel's probably. To win this fight next up. We have Joseph benefit Essen, Dustin RT's, a rematch benefit has won the first one by unanimous decision. He's to say when we talked to him that he doesn't typically win rematches. Am I incorrect? He's never won a rematch. But in fairness that have the rematches against cruise and mighty mouse. So nobody really wanted Joseph and I'm sorry Joseph by decision victory. Bye. I'm sorry. Mccain Sagan then. Decision Bennett beat us. Third round Tico. I'm gonna go because y'all said that I'm going to go Dustin Ortiz. I think he's asleep or sometimes I think he's got the ability to finish it is early. I think he can catch them early. Not that he's like that much better. I think he'll catch him early. Okay. All right. I'm gonna take benefit has been decision. But I think you're right. I mean Ortiz is not like a joke that that is fighting against. But I'm gonna take benefit Jimmy think he's a joke. Now, all of a sudden. Greg Gillespie against. That's a really really good fight. Glen. He's undefeated. What is he twelve? Our my remembering somebody, let's pull up here. I think he might be more than twelve and you might be right. He is twelve hundred okay and against Madero who's fifteen and five or what did what did what Gillespie's less two inch? How did they win? He's really fun to watch. You only pulled up his submission. I think in the last fight was an arm. Triangle choke over Vincent shell in his last one. And then he knocked out Jordan Rinaldi before that. But he's five in the UFC. One decision. He's got to four finishes. So he he's he's a real contender. I know I'm gonna take him second round finish overdose. You say second round finish. Yeah. So I was gonna say really, anyway, whatever you feel. Yes. Would you tell me what to say? I'm sorry guys. We all get along too. Good either spice it up. Yes. I shouldn't eight speaking to spice up I should not have down that fucking beef jerky. I feel so sick right now why nothing better than a nice beef jerky. Visit on the shelf. Couldn't get healthier. Fuck to take it a homeless guy shoe and eating the shit. But all I'm not gonna. It didn't hit me. Right. But didn't didn't? Okay. I'm gonna say Matt your head is sweating. Look at it his wedding on my head is sweating Oli. Do what did you? All right. So I'm I've been sobbing high. I've been high on Gregor Gillespie for a while. And I think he's got a Mendes Lee slick game that I don't think Yancy Medeiros is prepared for. I don't think he's ready for that type of pressure and that type of skill level with that speed. And I don't think he makes it out of around. You think I did you pick? I know you're gonna go you're gonna go I'm going Greg Espy second round submission. I think that's where he has a huge advantage over yet. See I'm going to take less be second. But I think if I honestly I feel like if he can get at it around against us, but he might be able to win. So that's why I've been goodness be gets him out of there. You know? Yep. Nonni third shut up. Sorry. I didn't mean guys. I don't mean to tell me to shush. Sorry. Sometimes I get like Joe pitchy going to get a pen, and Jeb and someone's I wish you were like him at the casino. Listen to me, I'm going with Gregor. Bless gillespie. Why is that? Dude. But I think Yancey is pretty durable. But and he's in he's doing he's durable. Like to getting hit and stuff. But he always comes back from that, man. But I think Gillespie surround stop is submission game. Regular second stop. I want to pretend like I said at first because I wanted to say that Jimmy Jimmy took my thunder, you know, because Jimmy's been off him. Why am I so combative? I don't know. Why am I talking everybody? Look at you, man. You got your damned your head. You're eating beef jerky. Everybody sub specialty young Ethan. Yongle Matt apologizes. This is some things that you never changed. Look how messy. Jerry Andy rapper. No good. Coffees. No, she look at ovation absolute mess. No candy. And I'm still mad at you for bringing me this grape soda the frontier. Cowboy was here when I brought up about dean's pick. What Joe Rogan if dean was fighting you'd be a couple of you go like this. I was just come. You just one second. It would be the whole cover. It won't second. It would be deemed dick tuck Thomas is what? I got a little nervous for a minute. What do you mean, you wouldn't be a bad batch? And he has all the ingredients at the beef that could be whatever his name is look at your area. Looks like the fire campsite. Look at it. Look at it. You guys flip this thing on me combative, very mess. I came out. I came out pushing you guys get you guys in the corner. Now, you're fighting back up and like Blake like a bully. I don't like it. You wear a teacher. That's as savage on your like. Dave, right, right. It is the Komai. Greg hardy against Alan Crowder. Alan Crowder is nine in three. He lost his last fight. Which was is you have see debut. She got knocked out by Justin Willis. I'm jimmy. I know you're honest too. So I want you to be honest. Even though I'm here. I would be very honest about what I am going to take. I'm. If he was fighting somebody more experienced I would pick again, I'm going to take hardy in a first round TKO. I think he's gonna come out extremely motivated, which again that can work against you. In the first round, you come out, a more experienced fighter can fucking allow you. Just a punch yourself out a little bit. And then by the second round your finished. But I think the Greg hardy come out very very motivated. And he really did look good. When I watched him fight first round TKO, tell me about Allen crabs last fighting in. It was a it was his UFC debut. He lost the Justin Willis it was a first round knockout halfway through the first round and his record. He's nine and three overall. Only one UFC fight one those UFC jitters, how many in Greg hardy three and he's got he's professionally three nobody has six anime fights. Overall, three amateur fights also Allen crowded trains again with who. Let me see where it says. It doesn't say it doesn't all knockouts amateur. Yeah. And how about his? Yeah. He's he's never not not someone. Who'd you say Allen Crowder trains with it doesn't say on the sheet. No, it isn't. No, it's very important to you. Info on if you want to make up how picked when I don't. Do you know who he might produces? It's I don't know who he trains what he trains for. So I think he in fact, he just opened up the school so Alan crowded. Yeah. Okay. What are you proud to do in his last fight? He got knocked up by Justin will I'm gonna change my pick. I heart is gonna win. But I do not think he's just gonna come in and smoke a guy who has twelve fights. Because he's one too many in a row by knockout. You don't just go in seven or eight fights in a row by knockout fighters just don't seem to fight that way. I'm gonna take hardy by decision. I think this is gonna be the first time he's pushing for interesting. Well, I don't wanna make it awkward guys, as you know, the whole time the shows being on this this the whole hour and change. I never wanted to make anything awoke in here. Yeah. I can tell Greg haughty. We'll take a hardy beating in the first round by Alan Crowder there. It is. I said I said I'm sitting in front of you. I want to my good friends. Yes. I did everybody. I said it hardy I'm taking Greg hardy by everybody. I wanna be different. He's so fast, so Atlantic. I mean, I I don't think that that crowd is going to be the guy to challenge him. Maybe not taking him down or whatever. I think it's going to stay on the field as twelve fights Crowder. I just think he may may smart enough to tie hardy up if possible, you know, you keep the festival, I don't know. I just have affiliates. It's not gonna be as easy as it's been with amateur fighters. No here. Alan crowder. Listen, he knows he knows that Craig haughty knocks people out, and he knows that he hurts people, but dean Thomas will tell you to hurt people on a time. You're that. It'd be hurt ain't that right team. Tom. God damn hurt. You I know chasing chasing me around. Anyway, I brought back, but we. Dillashaw against a hudo. I think that that fish my point. Yes, look, you just have. No, you didn't finish your point the door. Well, you were saying. I did pick him. Let's keep going. All right. So hudo, I T J dillashaw now for fight. Yeah. This is interesting because nobody's really nobody's talking about the hoodoo at all in this fight throughout Jake. Yeah. Seems but that's kind of a good thing though. You know, when because there's no pressure on you. He don't feel no pressure. When you look at their last fight. And how dynamic TJ looked would Cody it looked it looked awesome. Yeah. Like Killys verse heartily, right, man. But he did look these out he's slipping punches. He's hit lillies. What did you like three either right hand left? He it was. Me because we both picked Cody to to win that rematch. And he just he knocked him out again. And then you look at. So who does fight he, but it was more calculated any outpointed mighty mouse in a close fight. But when you look at what he's done right in that fight. It was very impressed. Yeah. And it was it was annoying enough that could he do that similar game plan to TJ Jimmy? No, oh, no. I don't think so confident now, I just think the TJ's third round stoppage. I think. Yeah. In the throughout. I think you will. I I have I actually have exactly the same thing. If third round knockout, I think TJ is coming in fast. I think we talked about it. The other day the difference in the size in their training to who to looks really big. I think he's gonna come in a little heavy. I think teachers is going to come in a little bit the opposite fast. And lt. He'll still have power at that way to going third right now. Fourth-round finish Fatih, Jay. And I listen. And you know, I love it on the dog. I do here especially ones that are like, you know, who. I believe Suda Suda. Yeah. I'll look it up. But it's close first title defense. You know? I don't I don't know how he'll handle that TJ's been been in this before. And not only that Jimmy you ask like like I like Muslim Cowboys been held down and beat up. Right. Does. I'm teaching has been held down and ever. I mean, he's he's gonna be hard to take down. That's the way he moved. He moved. He switches standard, so well, and he punches from news angle. So Ryo does seem to be a problem home. I got TJ two and four. So that's good. All right. The TJ. I mean, there's the site that I'm looking at him and he's a minus two hundred hundred. So it's a two to one favorite. So that's right. That's actually pretty good in that went, right? Well, listen, man. What else do we wanna plug? We're going to be getting Adia. This had no West Palm be there tomorrow and Saturday night at the improv. So you did that because you know, I wasn't going to beat her. I. I know. But I specifically check the schedule and I want out of New York. Oh, really? The fight for free. Go to West Palm talked a bunch of old people. We're gonna fucking hate me. The fight. So this Saturday Jimmy, and you know, my name, but my name is a cool really quick really quick. And. What are you doing? My my buddy. Joey goes. I wanna come over. We're having a we're having a party over. It's only maybe I'll stop in the fight through on me about pop in for a drink something. Because I the only thing is it. It's it's like a naughty Santa party. I'm like listen to me. This is my neighbors. I go. What are you joking? The kids go to school together. You know, the eye annuity like waggling? What is this is wide? Shut. What are you talking about? You know, you just gotta bring like a naughty gift. I go. I hate to do it. Ethan. You must do I I'm. Do you want me to bring a double ended dildo? Bring. Get what the fuck it. We don't get about man. I don't know what to heads. So. I know what that is. Doc him and it didn't shock him. Now. I would it. Something tells me that me and MRs Serrano going to this party. It's. It's. Teeth. Why is he having a Christmas party now strange? But. You have to bring a good naughty Christmas gift what the fuck is Laudi about Christmas, you freaks. I love these guys the nice guys. How are you going to look at them on Monday after that you don't already, but how am I going? I'm going to dress. My wife up like a freaky Alfano. This is. Rolling go. What is going on rolling pin? With a hamburger helper fish on the end. In the end. They would stand like what is ball's out. What the fuck is going on here island. Don't do. It. Don't go don't go. I'll listen I'm not going and I'll see them on Monday. How was the freak fest? I was watching Cowboys. They're only freight doors hidden agendas, you're going you're going to fight. I'm not. I got go naughty fucking party spice things don't go to. So where you're gonna wants to fight. Well, I mean is in Brooklyn, which is nice, you know, but I'm to be fighting. So I like to watch it on my big screen TV. It is nice to nice to be home and watching of here. Nami in Florida. Oh, you're going to be away. I watched them left up. Well, listen to me and dean wants to promote to promote Deen's enough. Not much more time. I gotta sign out with so listen check out, but it is good day. Online. Talked over, you know, train BJ JJ, online dot com or on Instagram. That'd be at train BJ online to serve JJ schools. What do I want to say to it? I'll do that. I know you why don't get kind of a hook up again you get your promo crew. And what about the people wanna know they've been asking what is it? Dana white looking for a fight. Dana trip in people. They do to me to me of a lot. They want us to talk about and chill. Rogin did say you'll final compliment. He did like he does say he likes you on the show. I knew way while we did you don't I would hit the inter up. All right. Listen Jimmy so much fun spring. I had a great time to all right? It's eighty five you, buddy. All right now. 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Ep. 2,840: Paulie Malignaggi, Chris Lytle and Dave Feldman

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Ep. 2,840: Paulie Malignaggi, Chris Lytle and Dave Feldman

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Josh joining us soon in studio former U of C veteran current bare knuckle fighter Chris Lytle, some guys what ups watchman excited. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fun show. Man. We have to in studio guests and two different worlds. We can talk about the UC card in Brooklyn with a little bit more certainty of what will be watching who will be competing for what title that was cool to see all the fighters. Make wait to start two thousand nineteen we have boxing in town with Manny pack out facing Adrian Brunner on Sunday. We have two conference championships to decide who will be in this year's. Super bowl. So yeah, I am ready for the weekend. And I'm pretty pumped up. And we got a new belt. I saw that saw the U of C unveiled the new belt. Yeah. We'll definitely chat about that. For share? This is set the table here. Both gas will be in studio. Eight seven seven fight ninety three. If you want to chat with us or them. Chris Lytle will lead things off in the first hour. He's just a few minutes late scientists pit he'll be here soon. This guy was the bonus king back in the day. You know, he fought in the of UC in two different eras. He came back to the tough lost a close fight to Matt Sarah, which propelled Matt Serra into that title shot versus DSP. But like I said he he fought prior to tough after tough, and he got himself a law. He made a lot of those fifty thousand sixty thousand seventy thousand before the UC really settled in on fifty. They were getting up there at times Chris banked about nine or ten of them if I'm not mistaken. He Joe Lasana ideas. These guys were always battling for who had the most. Anyway, he he's now doing some bare knuckle brawl not house brawling each time. But it's bare knuckle fighting it's bare knuckle f c four in Cancun. Don't get any better than that. Right. Oh, bare knuckle fighting, and and you're in Cancun, and you're getting paid. Okay. Sign me up. But yeah, he'll be doing that. It's kind of a USA versus Mexico card is opponent is J C Yarmuth, and I don't know much about JC. But well as Chris I'm sure he's got the scouting report on that. In the second hour. It'll be paulie, Molly, analogy former two-time World Boxing champion. He is now a broadcaster for Showtime, boxing, Showtime, boxing. We'll be presenting in a pay per view format. Manny Pacquiao vs Adrian Brunner. He along with Marlon all and Albert Einstein will be on the call. So we'll chat with him. I'm sure we'll touch on the subject of Conor McGregor his old sparring partner in anything else. He's got cooking in his life. Polly's? Always he's not a loss for words. That's for sure. Definitely not. It's it'll be a fun show. Definitely. You're going back to Chris Lyles opponent. I think in bare knuckle, boxing, you you just can't count anybody out. Right. Hell, no gloves. Nothing. I mean, there is strategy to top into it. The the way you're going to pick and choose your shots. There's a lot more strategy than people think your hands aren't protected. You got to be efficient with your with your shots. And then you also don't want to get to cut up. Because it's it's it's basically the Ross form of fighting. I guess that there's out there right now. I mean, granted they're not being and kicking in all the other stuff you see enemy, but in terms of just hands. That's what's going on. That's kind of what's been blowing up the last couple of years now. All right. So again, eight seven seven fight Ninety-three. Let's talk about you have see Brooklyn also known as you have see on ESPN, plus one also known as what else UFC pseudo were still shot you in you'll see fight night. One forty three one forty two you answer job. Good job. So that takes place on Saturday and shadow to Randy Orton and Gerry Cooney. Thank you very much for having us on their show. Just as you know. Seating our show at the fight. It is really a really great show. I caught them on the land, and you were able to talk a little bit. So I wanted to definitely shop those guys out those guys are legends in the sport. Oh, boxing. I mean, you combine them both. And there's probably almost one hundred years of experience from whether it's training competing commission official and now boxing media. I mean, there's just a lot there. So view love boxing catch at the fights. Mondays and Fridays it precedes. Our shows it starts at three PM Pacific six PM eastern to our show also produced by jumbo notch. Josh known as jolt Jocelyn that show. Did we run out of time on our segment because I noticed you didn't get around to the challenging Gerry Cooney part of the segment. Yeah. Had second thoughts a little bit careful chat challenging Jerry. Once. They book that fight camello. Wait a minute. That sounds like the team will be here in may. And I don't really go on and get sucked on the liver. I thought. I thought maybe it had most of the year clear, you know, biggest hands on is gonna get you. Anyway, just saying hi to you. There's like three shots three shots attach for each syllables. Great. Yeah. Yeah. No. You know what? I and plus I needed to get in here, but shot out to them. All right. So this morning at six AM. I woke up nine PM six AM Pacific nine AM eastern. That's when the scale opened guess it was first guys. I know who. Yeah. Yeah. That's a professional right there who says a lot. I don't know why we doubted them because he looked good all week. He, of course, he looks at out. But I think most of them do and he's supposed to eat fighting ten pounds less than he normally is. But he didn't seem to miss a beat his workout was clean. His interviews were clean. He conducted himself like he had energy. They use the scientific approach there with Sam Calva renowned now. He's all over the map. Palmer talked about it Jake Ellen Berger talked about it cub Swanson, but you know, the highest profile fight right now is probably T A T J dillashaw, and he went in there and got it done his twenty four point six his face looked a little drawn out, obviously. But we've seen that on other fighters, and we've also seen them need to be helped up onto the scale like everything else looked fine his brain function. I mean, he had no problem. He was screaming and shouting. I mean. Actually don't think it's going to be as big as an as an issue as we all made it out during the week. I think this is going to be good, man. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. I think so too. I wonder if people picking or place their bets early, especially those people, especially if they they're back in their feeling less confident now or people that are other side back in dillashaw, they feel more confident because of it in retrospect, I'm kind of curious do we have a snake drop either goes or Josh with any kind of thing? Well, anytime we talking about day diligent. I wouldn't I wouldn't hate if you if you keep that sound in the background has he owns it guys. I mean, he makes logo lets me. I don't think he's all. Yeah. I see the t shirt I'd say anything bad is it kind of like Joshua's like grilling a burger or something a little bit could be that. Or or snake one of the two Nate green? You got away with it. We don't know he's waiting on the other side of the country TJ's body, though, look like there was even a room from part in his body. There's no like if you would've said you have to make one more pound there's nowhere. He would have to chop off in ears. Again. He went in at one twenty four point six is opponent. Henry Huda was one of the later ones to win. He went in at one twenty four point four so both. And I I mean, anyone that's listening is probably going to come on big deal. No, it is a big deal that half-pound. There's some people that equate that to thirty minutes in the sauna or ten minutes in the sauna depending on what you're you're losing weight. But remember these are the last possible ounces of water, I guess that you can. Sweat out. But the went in there, and they got the job done goes of your phrase phrase it like that they didn't have room for far. I totally picture you phrasing. It that way with T J dillashaw here or asking him if he had room for a fart, and I would immediately do your trick. We look at the girlfriend or wife because I feel like anytime you bring you bring up those special about FARs, you bring anything unions like ask a question. You just bring it up, and you look at the girl, and they're just like, oh like like like a war veteran, and they got the thousand mile stare if you're ever on this show, and you ally don't bring your wife don't bring your coach don't bring your father. Bring anyone close to you. Because we don't look at the people we ask questions. See we look at them and they're the lie detector test, but everybody made away with or without issue to kind of to Georgia's point there with the winds about being at easer. Yeah. Patriots. You know was a little bit of concern. I mean, actually been Evita's we needed to know. He and Ortiz. Ortiz was also saying what had been Evita's MRs. So we had to keep an eye on quite a few people to make sure that everyone. Easy. You know, made way some of the ones that I guess you were we were all worried about more. But but they all did. And we're good to go. The ESPN air starts tomorrow goes on. I made sure that the that app is set it's ready to go. So there's no excuses, and what I wanna do is give you as a friendly. Reminder of how it goes down the prelims start at six thirty PM eastern on ESPN. Plus, all right. It's four ninety nine grab it that's sixty bucks for the year. But you're gonna be able to get a lot of you have seat content. And remember it also price if you grab it it. Also chops your fight pass in half. Which now brings you back to the original ten dollars that you're spending on fight pass six thirty PM eastern. You'll get three fights there. Then they moved the prelims to ESPN you can grab ESPN anywhere at home at a bar wherever you may be. There is no special requests, most TV's are usually on ESPN or you can get on ESPN. You'll get four fights there including Donald ceremony and Alexander, Hernandez, kind of been acting. Well, it's. Been portrayed almost like the combing event. They're technically aren't and we'll get to that. And just a second. But it's a high profile fight. It's old school versus new school. It's bad blood. You know this couple little. Little subplots. They're happening between these two guys. But they'll be on big ESPN and those fights start at eight PM eastern finishing up at ten pm eastern when they go back to. Yes, PM. Plus, why does that sound a bit bizarre that the title fight is on ESPN? Plus, we'll guess what they want you to sign up for ESPN. Plus, so they're going to put it on ESPN. Some prelims fights with marquee fight. Like, Donald Cerrone vs. Alexander Fernandez to get you to sign up for ESPN. Plus, so that's the strategy. I'll think going forward it would be like that. But that's their strategy now. Greg hardy and Allen Crowder is the Komeda vent. Their Henry Suharto defending his flyweight title versus the bantamweight champion T J dillashaw dropped to one twenty five pounds. That's that's your main of it. Now, why did they kind of push Surani verses hardy or Hernandez because Hardee's had the issues. In the past. If you've always NFL career he's had these allegations of domestic abuse. And I think just from a PR standpoint, it probably wasn't. The. That along with Rachel ostrich. I think they just wanted to shy away take a little bit of the spotlight away. Now on the same token there not shying away from putting him on in the of features. So I'm on I'm a bit confused. But I that's what I just think that was no reason to have them there when they can have the other two there. But that's a big spotlight for Greg hardy in the event of this. I I caught on ESPN definitely. And I don't want to derail the conversation. But I do want to touch back on something. Get your opinion. Something I forgot to see when we're talking about great Cardi. We talked about we already covered his response to in a way the company's response, and and you know, talking about the the layout here, but you guys were at the contender series that he fought on. Correct. Both you guys I wasn't at the George was that that one game that season. I just was doing my right of sorts easier for me to cover from home. So I didn't go to go to those. But the one thing I noticed, and we talked about how how well he's he handles himself. And you guys were kind of nodding to that saying, you know, the NFL guys it's a different breed. Right. And for sure and I. Gave him credit for that fairly. But what was kind of what was worry me as we see a bunch of guys, whether they're they're they're they're they're pumped up for real or they're turning it on everything in between their wacky after fight fight. It takes them want to come to earth. Y'all got you gotta give them a little bit of pass. You can't condemn guy for how he is. Of course. We love it when they show respect and check on their opponent. That's great. But you can't condemn a guy if he doesn't right, but Greg hardy if you notice he was just like having trouble turning it off, and whether it was regional commentators or commentators on the fight Basho, the all took note of it like, wow, this guy still ready to go. And you know, they say jokingly or something like that. But you look at it and took him a while. And he always Schick at ours. Everybody by the way, not just picking on Greg hardy year. I always the weird thing for me. I I look to see if the guy checks on his opponent of shakes his hand. See how gracious he's I guys gracious winner because there's such things as bad winners. Right. And he always does it. He always shakes her opponent hands. I'm not trying to demonize him further in any way. But I do think it's a weird look for a guy like myself, and then you guys. Weighing seen a crap ton of fights. But rarely do I see a guy that demonic locked in and having trouble to turn it off and for him for that fighter to be Greg hardy guy with domestic abuse allegations. And as well as maybe some you guys can win. I don't follow the NFL. But apparently he was hard to work with on combative on the teams. I don't know if that look helps them, and I wanted to get your opinion on that so long winded there, but so he's he finished his fights quickly get in. I just think there's you know, he hasn't really if it's a car's engine, and you know, it's a fast car. I don't think he's even hit ninety yet. And so the engine just didn't get to go out there and perform like he wanted to plus in football, you have three hours to smash the guy in front of you here. He's getting it done so quickly. So I just think he didn't have the full release. I know goes is fighters that same question in the past. You're happy with the win. But it all happened. So quickly like are you are you ready to go? Do you wanna start another camp or because there's so many of these fighters that kind of I guess are intense during a camp, and then that night is so special in undescribable many say in because of that. And so here's me acting like I know the answer, but. That's kind of what I was fair fair. I I think I've heard a few fighters say before while one I don't wanna put his name out there. But he said, I'm not necessarily fighting my opponent when fight night combs. I was fighting my father. Yes. And so two mortar what Dan's point is. I think sometimes people do that they're seeing other things. And so that rage comes back into him and takes him to another place. Interesting that there's that. And then another thing I thought about was if you find on the contender series. It's essentially like maybe fighting added Jim knows people around like a smoker something, but there's really not that many. But now you're fighting in an arena with a lot of people. And I don't care who you are. I don't care if you've performed in football on one of the highest stages. It's just different when you're fighting and all the attention is on you. I'm very interested to see emotionally, psychologically, how this dudes going to handle himself. Let me go a little further to that one too. But from bringing back football when he was a defensive player who rushed the quarterback. How many times have you seen a guy knocked down the quarterback, you know, by tackling them or just the vicious hit. And then he gets to demonstrate some sort of a sack dance more just get you know, maybe a flex and then the teammates come up and give them a push or slap on the helmet. And so there's a process of releasing and so for him. Maybe that's just it. There is no one high five he's in there by himself. You don't have access to your cornerman unless you go up there and jump on the fence. And maybe that's what it should do rather than just in there and have that pouty face or whatever. But. You know, like I say a lot of pro football players. You know that that's that's what they so they built for that moment. Because even if you get one sack per game. That's actually, really good. That means you finished with sixteen for the season. You know, it's worth it for you. So a lot of times you're hurrying the quarterback when you get the bite the ball down or you get a part of them. But he doesn't go down. But when you get that sack. I mean to them if feels really really good, and I've seen them kind of go through these stages of of demonstration, you know, some are just having fun with it. But others are primal, and that's all that's all fair, and I'm not trying to make a witch hunt. I guess the one thing I will say it's not even a counterpoint. And just the observation that's sparklers in the first place was that I get all that. It's just it's just weird that his was different. And I don't think that's me or the prime formation which it does play by as it does. I don't think that's that. I it just it was just something that that I'll watch them. But I like goes point to especially go figure from the from the psychological angles really really sharp there from goes as far as turning it off. And how guys some guys access that not the dig too deep down the rabbit hole. But speaking of his allegations, you know, that could kinda even speak to that doesn't make any of that. Right. Not none of us are doctors here. But some people just have. Turning it off. So I guess it's something that I guess I'll be watching. Yeah. Me too. And I want to stay with the hardy theme on this cut. Remember, I said I got to see a lot of prefight coverage on ESPN, whether it was area Hawaiian Tilson or stereo Awani or anybody talking about it or the ticker. But I want to go back to money. One thing. He's made note of a couple of times in different interviews is he feels like Greg hardy, isn't you have see ready? It's too early. Remember he was on a developmental contract. Not too long ago. And I I would just respectfully disagree. This is one of those divisions where for one three and four no can be you know, I mean if you're in the UFC. You're pretty much. You've see ready, and there's not too many people that go through this developmental stage AA or AAA or nothing like that. You know, we talked to a lot of fighters like Alonzo manifield and. Curtis. No sorry. Not Chris Melander, cookie walls caved now who else came through the contender series that we spoke to recently. Shoot medical Curtis Melander. But anyway, there's been a few that they've already gone through it and are winning John. Holy cow. Yeah. I mean started seeing Sean Spicer. Yes. Sean O'Malley sink thing he wins there. And now he's in the NFC if you win there. There's a good chance that you are you ready, and guess what? He's been steamrolling people. So yeah, I don't know. I would just say I would just pull I respectfully disagree with her. I think he really is ready. And that's why he's there is ready to becoming event. No, he's not a Komen inventor. Of course, not. But he carries a name from the NFL albeit a tainted name. Let's see you have to be careful with it. But in the land of second chances in the land of being in a different sport. He's got a clean Bill here in the sport. And and he's been performing, you know. So I think with a win you're going to get a lot of people are going to get excited about Greg hardy Schutte beat Alan Crowder, and I'll Cosi with that point, George, and that's coming from somebody who actually, you know, not to peel back the curtain, but yeah, we will we have we have discussions on. We want to cover things that may junkie and whatnot. And we. We obviously follow suit with with what what the UCS. But like we said this is kind of a weird one where like Georgia's plan at the top of the episode where they've got the featured out there promoting with surrounding Hernandez in the main event. So of course, we followed suit those what my breakdowns did. But yeah, we're having some light discussion. And and I wasn't sure that that even though for whatever reason they're putting him in the Komeda Vince slot, which I if area would have say against the communist minute slot, regardless of how they're treating it. Okay. Yeah. I agree. I don't think he deserves that. And that would agree to an which is why you know, I I don't feel like is worth, you know, writing analysis on a guy who has only a couple rounds under his record only a couple of fights both amateur and or handful of fights I should say both amateur and professional, but to your point circling back to your point George coming from my stance. I actually still strongly agree with your point. And that's even taking the low hanging fruit of the CNN punks. We can always bring in the punk example. But they let him punk. But even even moving in. My still cosign with your point because how many countless guys from more stack divisions. Have we seen from five to ten no records in the UFC? And most. The reason why I say five to ten oh because that's where you usually see the end defeated drop off most guys don't make it too far past ten or. No. And if they are five to ten and notes because they are facing. Let's be honest not the best guys on the regional scene. And a lot of them are first round finishes. So another words to your point. We let so many guys without even the name without even the athletic credentials into the UFC with a similar sample sizes, Greg hardy, and he comes from the NFL an amazing athlete to be in the NFL. And he was a good NFL player, very athletic. He has the size. He's got the speed. He seems fearless. He's with a great camp. Who has a lot of quality heavyweights out there for one one of their coaches, Steve Marco, he's being trained by a Olympic caliber wrestler who also has a that mentality of the alpha male. I mean, he's sending his guy out the battle. You got Bigfoot Silva junior to Santoro's Andrea Laskey? So there's bodies out there. You know, what I mean to help him prepare, and again, if this isn't some point of like that, dude. It's crazy. Not respect their hold on. I'm very happy. Right. Yeah. Sure to ESPN, but I heard it a few times. And I thought I want to speak on this because I just had another point of view. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna go back to the alternate biter television show when they did the heavyweight season they had a belief for NFL former NFL players on that season. Two of them Brendan shop Matt Matry own kind of similar situations where they didn't have that much experience going in. But they developed into something right? You could say that pretty decent careers mature and still going. You never know what we're going to get here on oh, he was an own guys. Well, and he got he got pretty far in that. And Ono guy. I believe won the ultimate fighter one year by the name of MIR Sadullah, tough tough tough eight and granted, obviously, that's a dying breed guys. We can't expect that going forward. But just yet to further the point I guess, I would say Dana contender series. I've sung their prey hall. I love a long time. But you if you're on Dana white contender series. It's like being on LFA. It's like being on CNN or it's like being on titan. Or you know, those other shows that have been around for a long time. You're there for a reason. It was bizarre to me that they put them on this developmental contract. I thought the guys out there smashing if you already forgave him for any indiscretions. He may have had just make them part of the u of c at this point the hell with the developmental part. I I don't know or maybe that was their way of separating themselves a little bit just to see that, you know, he behaved. Maybe it's all I can think of I'm sure there's concern on their side as well. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break. You're listening to MMA junkie radio on fight nation. Tell ninety three stay close. We'll be right back. I'm trying to track down Chris Lytle? He told me I'm going to be a literally I thought he meant like five three five four NAMA start busting his ball. So stay close folks will be right back. Injuries. Forced them to retire undefeated from MMA with a record of oh, they are gorgeous, George and goes and this his MMA junkie radio. Tonight at ten thirty eastern near the Golden State Warriors play the clippers on MBA radio series. Two seven six streaming on your phone end at home on serious extent connected devices and speakers still awaiting the arrival of Chris Lytle. Former UFC welterweight the bonus king. They call them for a while. Grateful actually reached out to us. So I I don't know maybe something held about. Now. I was I thought I was going to be laying and I was actually earlier than running a little earlier than usual and. Georgia's got this pretty bad right now. Okay. So we can we flush that out. How did you get? He just gave a really big wave one of the way to waitress it's looking directly at him. And she didn't really do anything out kind of looked smiled. And every time his smile back. I was getting no love or any. So anyway, she did she finally smiles. She finally wave Zeke recital. Looking sharp, isn't he? All right. Good to see him, man. Welcome UFC veteran and now bare knuckle fighter, Chris Lytle. So Chris, how're you doing take? You let me come hang out. I'm sorry. I'm late. We were over there at the Manny pack, yo weigh ins and. Afterwards. You know, we were doing more interviews and people just kept talking to this day film. And this is the owner president all that became FC, the cranium I believe you've had him on our show. Yeah. Her elope. Well, it's good to have you February. Second can't Beck. Yes. USA versus Makiko C J C Yong with somebody a little bit about that cat. I think it's bell tour veteran the guy when I when I watched some of its flights that who comes a fight. He comes and throws bombs, which is when I watch his fights in may, he comes this Wigand pushing. So I was like oh bad one of those who probably hurt. So I'm going to try to avoid getting hit by those punches and try and hit him. But you gotta skill good bird knuckle. You can't be hitting the top of the dome. You know, what I mean, you've got to be efficient? You gotta work the body. So that it can pay off in the leader retell, I talked to this guy early. He knows exactly what he's talking about. Because you can't go out there and throw punches wherever because you're gonna break your hand or you're going to get cut open. So you've got to be more careful. So I'm hoping he's weighing those punches. I'm going to move this chair Ray here. I don't wanna get hit. I get animated when I know. Did you like that video of those like a tenure challenge? Video guys. I think it was about ten years ago. Yeah. Sucked goes in flashback back. I told him. I told him I was going to or not dealing with liver. Shots were do a face shots. Wow. Talk about the the we had this talk on the bus at J B L E, and we were talking about just the strategy, and how long how many of these you have to go through to really develop your style. Where are you at? Now. I feel a lot better. My my second five as opposed to my first fight. And I'm really hoping my third fight is way better than my first and my second. What will we will see here in a couple of weeks? But I can just tell you the big one is going from your first year second fight. It was a big it was it was the difference that I wasn't expecting. I've been a of athlete for many many years and going in there, and all of a sudden I'm there, and I'm like, I don't have any gloves on. This guy's tried hit me. He doesn't have any gloves on it. Just it took me a minute to get the good feel for in this next time. When I did I felt a lot more comfortable more confident in there. And I knew how to place the is a little bit better. If that makes it so I really can't tell you how it's going to be after this. But I know there's a big difference between fight number one. Number two. I could only help if that different. Has happens much time. I'll be very excited you could shape. Feel like I'm in great shape. Right. He was already good shape. He was doing the army combative did get to do that type of sound are complaining about some huffing and puffing hours later. I don't know how much that cold in your lungs affected. You. I was more of an evening. He was hurting. Randy take another little spill I wanted to laugh, but he's Randy couture. That alone. He's he's he I mean, jeez. Not saying he's a lot older than me. But I hope I'm not going to save a few years. You know, what I mean, you did the pull ups, right? And what else did you do? I did the little the whole the little thing you had to run down there. Pull a thank back lead. All that little thing. Didn't you do the thing at the end where to the pope's here? So you did double duty. This was six a push up. Standard like coal degrees stretch, and they didn't have the best athletic year either. I mean, we were kind of wearing jeans because we're going to be running around. What about you? What about you guys? Do you guys making excuses for me? So I don't have to make them. So thanks to what we do. Yeah. No, man. This is awesome. You know, bec Rawlings is on the car. That's absolutely fight fight. Excuse me. Fight dot TV has covered twenty nine ninety five bare knuckles been all the Rachel last. Couple of years. Joe Riggs of fighting on it. Yeah. Julian lay and I like the theme of USA versus Mahyco soon. So you guys will kind of be young. You have a chance to win over the crowd because Mexicans fans are very very knowledgeable. And though they will ride with you. They'll fist-bump you. But they'll cheer for their guy early on. This is a really cool thing for me because as a as a fighter that's like a one on one, you know, lowly type of sport in a way, you never have like your team here versus at team Mandal. I've tried that team concept with five, but now it's just a team like your country versus another country. I'm really excited for it. Because if I win it's not just me winner for me. It's me wouldn't for America. Because I think of Mexican fighters some of the toughest guys on the world. You know, who lose says just just tough guys. And we're gonna go fight those guys if we can. Eat the though, I mean, that's that's going to be an awesome. Thank you know, some of the Mexican fighters have the worst body shots right train that art Cannella Julio says are. I don't like it. So speaking canal you hear that signed the fight Danny Jacobs to boxed Danny Jacobs here in Las Vegas, Cinco de Maya weekend rail. Yeah, that's a huge fight, man. One of I'm getting hurt. Let me know I'll step in now back in my boxing mood, look at you. All right. And what parts of the town? We're just doing promotion for the fight. They got this going on February second. Here's the problem. We've figured out what the sport is. Now that people see it. When people see it they go win the next one. I want to watch the next one. When wins the one after that, I'm gonna watch that with two. So we just gotta get more knowledge at it's going on. I mean, a lot of people still go pear knuckle. And they look at me the way that they used to when I said, I find the cage. You know, what's kind take a couple of steps away. Like like, I don't know. That's kind of what they fake when the here bare knuckle, so just hearing it. Yeah. You're right. But but once guys like yourself, go out there day Feldman goes out there and educates. I bet you there's going to be a good track record of safety in the sport. Once you Bank those years like Emma maize on its twenty two year. And you look back we've had no major deaths in the u of c granted unsanctioned bouts out throughout the world. Think of Muhammed events that are out there. I think we're maybe you can count them on one hand something to do with way cuts with some pretty safe track record as well. But it twenty five years to build up to that. Well, I mean, they've he could talk. I don't know if he's already done on your show or he could talk him. But I mean, he was talking about the injury report and even number of broken hands and broken fingers and stuff is way less than you would think when you're talking about bare knuckle, so that is really goes to show that people. Aren't out there. Just winging punches or thinking. Okay. I gotta hit this guy here, and they're more strategic with their punches as opposed to just double punches. Right. All right. I got a play celebrity look alike. I just gotta play it. And I'm the king of it. So I got a good one. But I'm going to go old school help. The only reason I'm pulling this out of my ass because I recently saw the movie are we talking about Chris. Are we talking about everyone or not talking about Christmas? I'm circling in on Dave the movie the untouchables starring Robert deniro and Kevin Costner. Yeah. You know, what I'm talking about right where Robert deniro portrays Alkap bone. Well, the bad guy is Al Capone. But who was number one guy? Frank nitty Frank bit. A little bit like Frank nitty. You got to think about Franken, and he's got put on the white suit. And all that I can't put them. So I'm trying to picture him because he's wearing black. It's the complete opposite. So. Later. Okay. So I'm gonna fool Frank nitty from the movie, and then you guys can either fist-bump me and see that was a good one told me to get off. That's why I get some wrong. But I usually get a lot of them right to. Okay. Let me see if I can find it here. Okay here here. He is our here that is Frank nitty will start with Dan, Tom guy didn't know Dave better looking guy. But that's frankly, frighten say Franklin, he looks looks sickly as filled out and healthy looking on because you here. But but but but I I can see what you go with that. I don't think that's the temperature. I mean, I know what you're looking at. But I don't wanna I don't wanna take a liver shot. But we just showed that picture. He just basically goes you're a white guy. And you're a white guy. Some really really authentic. Probably right. But not from that picture. I would I I got a fist-bump for playing this game yesterday. I brought it up a Alexander Hernandez looking like, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark Wahlberg from the movie fear. Yeah. That's a good one. I found a good picture. What I hear Archy? Mark doesn't like to be called that. I think it's pretty bad. There's a whole generation that has no idea that he used to rap they keep both withdrawal people don't know that they don't know the funky bunch. I don't like those people. Well, I don't know why I went down this rabbit hole. Or how about this one? He looks better here. His name's Billy Drago. He's an actor. I've seen 'em. I see where you're coming from the. Yeah, it's more like him there. But I still think that doesn't look as much like thought. Don't open up the window says you porn, by the way. It's now. What about that with pictures that right? There says that him this one. No, that's Andy Garcia too. I couldn't I could've given any Garcia that. The like. Maybe I don't know. I think he looks like a cross between the two of them you can buy. What did they tell you? What did they tell you know, there's I can find a picture? This is closer than Frank Natal's Bill way. There's no way. Hey, I'm sorry announcing once. And from an angle you look like boss rootin-. Maybe it was boss food, you think about I swear to God I had to look at it a few time. Really, you did some commentating was bare knuckle or did you get behind the common to? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a certain angle I'm gonna show it to guys and you'll find you you don't want to do a quick commercial. I because I got it. Okay. Reset a little bit here. I want to either give it one last shot to save my rep. And I'm gonna look for the other pictures. Well, the picture because I think I don't talk about the picture. But I don't think that those pictures are doing it just give me your best picture, and I'm gonna use my best pictures, by the way. Showdown. The waitresses is that fair. That's ver okay. All right. You're listening to enemy junkie radio on fight nation channel ninety three. Stay close. We'll be right back. Paid to say things in this cool voice. They get paid to be lame. Here are gorgeous, George goes beer. Down for five. Rams. I don't think it hold up at three Ramsey. I mean, I think those shows to active too. I think I don't think I go to all right. All right. We're back here. Want to welcome? Paulie mullion on to the show so time boxing comment. Was that fist-bump? Oh, you're straightening out your jacket. They're not on. This is the second time. It's happened. Easy wanted to what I'll give you. I'll give you a pistol. He's like he's like, oh, we're on. We're on we're on an internet St Louis soft as watched but he faked. So Showtime commentator, former two-time boxing champion owner future legend as well. And yeah, I like that shirt man thing I noticed. Yeah. All right. And also. Conor McGregor is best friend. Well, I don't know. Maybe he's my best friend. Well, we'll get to all that in just a sec you're going to be calling the fights tomorrow for Showtime boxing, along with a good friend of ours Mara. And all yes, Albert Einstein. And it's it's a huge fight, man. They weighed in Adrian Groner, we'll probably rehydrate to be the bigger guy tomorrow. But I wouldn't necessarily say that I don't think Adrian's a big big welterweight, you know, and obviously packing on a bit welterweight. I don't think I'm going to go to the pacu though. Yeah. Yeah. Well, everybody's picking the right, right? Right. Started out much much lower weight class. But I I think you know, Adrian's also not a very big welterweight. So I don't see them rehydrating crazy a lot. But, but I do think, you know, maybe ten pounds each is look the dudes talented, right? But I feel like man sometimes I'm watching them up it like, I'm watching the snooky of boxing. What is it with that guy people? Tune in. Definitely a personality. You know? And then he doesn't talent. I just think that when a guy has that much possessing talent, I think people's fail to see the deficiencies in his style. I'd I always felt blowing Bronner had ever put back since when I had the fight with him and base my game plan around this. I always felt had a problem, cutting the gap basically is getting from here to here to you. You know, you can you can do all these fleshy combinations. And throw you flashy punches. But if you're at if you can't cut the gap to where I can get close enough to you to use all that all that. Then I it's useless. And I think Bronner doesn't have a very creative method to to get cut the gap. See there's this right here. I can have all the best punches in the world. But I can't tell you with them. You know what I'm saying? So I've got to figure out a way to close that gap without getting hit from your oncoming punches because you know, you're not a bunch of bay. You're gonna shoot shot if I'm going to try to step into your range. So I think Boehner's ability to close that gap is masked by all these flashy combinations. And personality because he does have a lot of talent. But. Ponto the earn away where he's disliked but still popular why? Yeah, I think he's one of those guys, you know, I for lack of a better example. I think is a lot like Conor McGregor. You know? I think a very controversial very outspoken says says a lot of things that you know, sometimes turn people off and whatnot. But but gained opinions. And when you gain get opinions, you people will tune in. You know, I I start to think like, you know, sometimes I'll watch like skip Bayless on one of these sports talk shows. And I think there's no way this guy believes what he's saying is just no way. He he he gives you the most the dumbest opinions just because he knows you're gonna say, wow. That is so stupid, but you're going to like tune into him just to be annoyed. You know what I'm saying? I think certain guys do that. I think certain guys have that ability to to know what to say and do that. And I think I think bronner's one of those guys know you have to have thick skin, obviously. Because when you become a guy like that, you're not very liked by by the majority of the population. But, but I also think there's a lot of there's a lot of attention that comes your way. And and like I said, I think McGregor is the same. Away. A lot of a lot of ways. I have a question when you got with Manny, peck, he'll right there. I mean, he's he's about forty years old right now. I mean, do you not only the age? It's just the mileage he'd been fighting for a long time. It's been a lot of fights. I keep thinking at some point father times going to win that out. You know what? I mean. What do you think is that? Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. I. I don't know. He looked good in his last fight. But yeah, I mean, when you what you want me to tell you guys, you know, the guy turned pro when Brian was five years old guy. The guy turned pro the guy turned pro before I ever picked up a boxing glove and said let me learn to box. Forget about my career forget that before I ever picked about boxing before I ever thought that I would even become a boxer the guy was already professional fighter. So I don't know what guys want. I'm to tell you. You know, we're going to get it to controversial answers. That's why this is still happening. I've already said this in the past. It's not like my opinion changed. But you know, it's okay. I can't get into you know, what I'm saying. Like father time is supposed to catch up. I mean, we're all human beings superman existing comic books. I'll say like that a lot of fighters are starting to a lot of them are having success Lee way in stages. They're seeing it never may, you know, Wladimir Klitschko announced that he's coming back. Yeah. And I know he's forty two I think or forty three. Yeah. The last night he had he looked good. Even though we lost Anthony dwarf. He knocked down. Anthony, that's the best. That's the crisco at wanted to see for so many years because he was weighed more active and aggressive. You want any win out on him fight where he had a competition got hit and our good friends stitched Iran is his cornermen. So I wanted to stitch to enjoy that. Right. That was a great fight. That was in Wembley stadium in front of ninety thousand this day. That is the most unbelievable sporting event I've ever attended and been a part of it was crazy that that topped Mayweather Pacquiao. The top may with a McGregor that top everything that was wrong. Okay. I was a hundred thousand people there almost honored thousand people all going crazy. I mean, just the Andrews alone every hair on my body was standing up and then the fight lived up to a two. So the the whole stadium was going to a sick sick decibel level the whole time because it just the action was just, you know, momentum swings and ups and downs. It was what an unbelievable unbelievable. I'll never forget that event. It was this crazy. I mean, the high building up to it. And then and then the fight night. I mean when you see something in a stadium like that. It's crazy. And then when then when it lives up to it, the the energy of the crowd. I me I was like, wow. This is like they must feel like walk ins. Yeah. Just walk ins are unbelievable. They must feel like God's right now. You know what I'm saying? It's like, wow. You know? I mean, I was excited for them. So I can't imagine. How the other two fighters must have been paulie going back to the main event tomorrow night. How important are those first early rounds? I feel like an Adrian's game. Sometimes we've seen him not take off the round. But kind of gives them gives them up a little bit, right? Sort of a late starter? Yeah. And I don't think he can really afford to get off to a slow start in this fight again for lack of a better example, is that was something I kept the mind to see them get off to slow start. So I thought to myself, you know, what get off to a fast start in this fight, you know. And I I really think he can't afford that. You know, he's he's young Duggan's fight, you know, and I don't think he's younger dog just because people feel patios better. I also think I also I also think oddsmakers put into account the politics. I don't know that drinking get a decision against Pac with with the rumors of Mayweather, you know, so so I think it's all the more important for Boehner to get off on the right foot Pecos only getting fucked though. Well. Jeff. Doc, Cody horn fight I thought the broadcast was very biased for that. I thought he thought he thought he lost Jeff horrify. But I thought it was it was a competitive fight. And it was a good fight. But but I didn't think he wanted the Jeff one fight. I thought the guy was way more physical and and just made him fight his fight. But but yeah, the Bradley case for him, regardless. I think that you know, it's funny because bronner's usually one getting decisions he doesn't deserve to you know, he's got about two or three of them in his career. So so, you know, maybe this is a little roll roll reversal. But you know, what of this magnitude and somebody is watching it you you'd like to see, you know. Hopefully, no, no, judging controversies if it comes to that, you know, in our sport in what we do we talked to so many of these these guys there's times where after the way in just in seeing how they're acting. You can come get a gauge on where they're at. Did you get a chance to did you catch anything in talking to these guys? I mean, I I just think that's always overplayed, you know, like, the psychology of the Wayne like, you know, you're not gonna fight in that many. So so like, you're happy you made weight, but you can be as big and bad as you. You want to be because you know, you're not gonna fight in that minute. You know, I think it's your fight for your fight night demeanor that plays into it more. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I at the way, and you can pose you can flex you can get the crowd involve, you know. And obviously you're in shape because you're dried out, and you're you're making so your body usually looks good. I don't I don't I never held a lot of I never put a lot of of thought into the psychology of the way in you know, like what percent of you here. I don't wanna get punked either. I thought it was. Well, yeah. Yeah. Of course. I mean, I got had a Wayne, bro. Him your con-? You know? So. Yeah. I mean, obviously, you're not you don't wanna your punk. But at the same time, I just feel like I always used to look at the Wayne's like you like finally finally finally go drink some, you know, I'm so thirsty. And of course, you know, the show the cameras, you know, that's all feeds into your ego. And and kind of sets the temple for fight night. You know what I'm saying? Well, you like you're here. You know, you you don't that officially sets it like you've arrived like, and it's time to fight like your camps over the preparations over, you know, one way in and this cameras and crowds here. And we're gonna. We're gonna get ready to do this. You know, kind of put your mind into that different different zone. Once once that Wayne is over. But I aside from that. I don't I don't really even today like body, Jack and mocha's Brown had like a little shoving match at you know, you know, you both feeling big and bed at that moment. You know? But you're not gonna fight in that moment, you know. So the the demeanor of things tomorrow night, really is what matters, you know? Does that translate into additional paper us, maybe the last twenty four hours? Yeah. Yeah. Of course, it might it might I I don't know it might I always think people wanna see controversy. You know? I always put it like this. You know, I think I made a good job in in selling their fights a lot better than boxing a lotta times in the US anyway because because there's a lot of bad blood and a lot of the promotions in boxing. I feel like there's a lot of quality like a gentleman's sport. But I'm really, you know, you guys you wanna see them have bad blood. You don't wanna see them like shake hands and respect each other and whatnot. And I put it I give the example of WWE where I say, it's all scripted bed blood, and then the action is scripted as well granted there stunt men, and they're good athletes, but it's all scripted regardless. But regardless of it being scripted the fact that it's so much bad blood. For every battle. They sell like hotcakes. They still tickets like crazy. You know, people just wanna see bed blood if this combat so so regardless of that, I do I do think the bad blood. You can't look at combat sports. Like, you look at the sport. You know what I'm saying? Well, you can't look at like, you know, if a guy like in the NBA, we'll we'll mushoo or something that all that's bad sportsmanship or something in it's different. You kinda wanna see that you're not, and I kind of get turned off on these commissions sometimes threatened to find these guys or whatnot. Because I do think you need that. You know? Maybe you, of course, you don't want tables. You get throwing and people get hurt. But, but you know, you wanna see bed below because that's what's going to sell tickets. I mean, even people fans fans, we're gonna watch a fight. You know what I'm saying? Like, they wanna they wanna see like these guys have a dislike for each other and get more pump for it. All right. We're coming up here on the top of the hour break, we got paulie. While in you here in Studio B calling the fights tomorrow to Showtime, boxing, so pay per view. I want to specify that. And the headline is Manny Pacquiao vs. Adrian brunner. I got some odds here and they've shifted around. And of course, if you're an online punter then you want to definitely shop for the best houses. Manny Pacquiao, minus two eighty at least according to MGM resorts, which is Mandalay bay Luxor, Excalibur MGM may pack. You're getting minus two eighty in Adrian Brodie, plus two thirty. And also got odds on fight. That's coming up, and we'll pick Polly's brain. When we come back. Check this out aerospace juniors minus five hundred against the undefeated, thirty six Mikey Garcia. It goes back plus three fifty so that and that's just stuff. That's because Mike smaller guy post. 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We're back and we'll go with the Christmas talking about you're pretty excited about cowboy Soroti. He's fighting alternatives. You wanna talk about that one? Yeah. Very excited. I liked. Donald Cerrone lot, a good guy fun to hang out with Hernandez seems a little full of himself right now all the press Conrad, you know, I'd like to see cowboy put it put it on. But you know, he hasn't really looked to good as I that's but except for his last fight he fought, Mike Perry. And I was I was very impressed with that. When I thought I honestly thought is probably gonna lose that fight arm. Yeah. I mean, look fantastic. So I'm hoping it wasn't just he was that fired up for that fight wasn't gonna lose. No matter what you know, because you know, the split in the camp, and all that hope that wasn't the case. I hope we can see Donald phony. I really hope he wins this fight. But a guy that pulls for the old guard mean, of course, I do man an old guy has to win. I can still do this stuff. You know what? I mean. Right, right. All right, go your generation most of the time. They're. Most of the time. They're guys you came up with them for a lot of years. You know, you want to see them go out on a good on the right foot? Right. He's actually the underdog. Donaldson can is. He is because you know, the the oddsmakers you were talking about politics. Also, just throw in the popularity like when McGregor fans come to town. You know, they're going to bet them. So they actually moved the other movie odds a little bit for that. So the oddsmakers probably feel like Alexandra's is even better than than those odds show. But but. Of the take on on Surani. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I what were the odds when he thought period, you know? I don't remember. I don't know. I imagine he was the dog on that one. So only was the dog imagine he was the dog on that one. So all right. That's a great until they don't matter. You like thrown either. Thrown either. I want Sironi Idaho. Find this heart wants the road. I don't know if I necessarily think I mean because like I said, I he he's been kinda hit miss her lately. And that's another factor. You know, he's been in a lot of wars. It's been a lot of wars. He's got that mentality. I'm gonna come in ours. I can't you're gonna hit me. I'm gonna win this fight. You can only do that for so long though hasn't done well as of late, but then like I said he pulled all together for that. Last flight. I'm hoping this guy brings it out with them. And I hope he wins. I kind of probably minute go with them just from a horror. But that's not a smart thing to do. All right. Holly, you pay attention to our sport. Who do you like in this way? I don't know a lot about Hernandez. I obviously I've seen her on. He's been around for a long time. So I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to pick this fight. But I've heard good things about her name is on. I heard I heard he's he's a guy to go to the guy. I gotta keep an eye out for and coming up the ladder. So. I can see the the matchups sorted like boxing, whether young up and comer takes on the kind of the old fading guard and the old fading guard gets an opportunity to kind of re stabbed himself, the young guy wins. It's kind of that kind of Ronan drop off for the course, the same play book. You know, I sure Surani drop back to one fifty five and that guy was suffering at the press conference man, you could just tell he'd rather be a one seventy guy when you're older your metabolism doesn't cooperate as much either. You know, there's so many nuances to getting older now, it's not just things slow down or got mileage on the odometer, and you had a lot of fights. It's also your body just decides we're not gonna make wait anymore. You know? So you got you have to get to a much tougher time. Let's do one more fight. What about the main event? Henry Suharto versus T J dillashaw to champions, the Dilshad, savannah way champ. He's dropping. Yeah. I've heard of I mean, obviously, I've seen dillashaw a lot. I've heard I've I haven't seen pseudo fight. I've I've heard good things about him as well. I rate dillashaw, you know, Ray dillashaw, but look. At the line. He's the he's the favourite. I mean pseudo what do you got? He's the guy that just uncrowned. And he's Olympic Olympic gold medal. Whoa. Close very close by s- hill. Even if it's a close fight while also why don't they don't rematch with with with the matrix. Patriots decided to sign with an organization called one championship at all. Right. You've seen how they're doing. That's what happens when you got Dana white running you. All the companies are gonna stop paying and they're gonna leave. Wow. Wow. So wow, Johnson's gone. Wow. A lot of things going. You know, you guys call me with the guy that I'm taking it in. I'm picking up together beat him not to be fair to meet meet him one. So it was one one, but he would have been great. It would have been nice. But now one is going to try to grab pseudo the trilogy. Maybe we'll see. Here's another thing. That's the flight way division. We're talking about a hundred twenty five coming down those coming down. But there's rumors at the you've seen me rid themselves on one seventy five. And if they do then you're right that either pseudo has to move up become lying with them. Or maybe they're. Say they've never liked it. Have you noticed never supported? I remember UFC didn't go below like one forty five. Right. Exactly. And guess the fifty five or BJ Penn. Remember he had to find a new home. They did away with that division for a long time. And then all of a sudden, they, you know, oh, wait a minute. We met we done messed up and then forty fives and thirty five remember women to women's well onto rouser comes along. And all of a sudden a million dollars was like way. Hey, welcome. Welcome women's remain. So yeah, they've got it wrong quite a few times as well. You know, what is he still loose sporting comparison? So I think they're still like trying to find their bearings. As to what's going to sell them. What's not? So a lot of things in the changing. I mean, I just hate that fighters lose opportunities when you eliminate weight classes and things like that, you know, because I I'm always for the fight early. Yeah. I want guys to be able to make a living and whatnot. And if you eliminate weight classes, you know, those guys are going to have to be the find that home or fight weight classes that are much tougher for them to compete at you know, so I grew up in the eighties. And I caught the tail end I caught the tail end of ten Norton. Joe frazier. All right. And so Home Depot, I'm thirty eight thirty. Okay. I'm forty nine but in the eighties, golden arrow, man. So you were a teenager during exactly I got two hundred eighty seven flourish. And I kept saying you've see don't don't get rid of fifty five and start looking at what WEC's doing because I'm telling you that class can those cons can also be more key. You know what I mean? And sure enough, you know, there's some Conor McGregor their biggest star ever start off as a forty five or he's now fifty five or and I don't know whether or not giving those those divisions A chance because people wanna see okay. Maybe they don't sell a million papers. But not a lot of divisions. Do it takes awhile? It's the right combination. Six the right character. You know, the right fighter to do. It wasn't Dmitri Johnson Johnson was beating the shit out of everybody. Nobody can beat them. But he was just kind of like Joe lunch bellied, go home to his wife and kids, and that was it didn't really wasn't didn't she life or anything? But so that was nothing to do. But it doesn't mean you get rid of a hold of. Vision. So that's an excellent point. Like, you said they just kind of throw it away because they didn't have the right person there, maybe for them for for one because he was Travis the Dilawar, then Mayweather pack. Yo it hasn't stopped Condello. You know what I mean? The those divisions have been pretty for those divisions box would have suffered a lot because heavyweight division wasn't doing a lot for a little bit. Do you? Remember, the Livingstone Bramble fights. Yeah. I mean, there was some really really good ones against the Lexus Quayle was well that was really really good fighters. We can name a lot of them gatty. I mean, great great fights that we've seen for many years. I don't know. But but supposedly pseudo wins they're going to give it some thoughts. Who does try to put them on the spot by shaking Dana white saying if I win we saved the division during white won't do it. He's such a I can't I curse it. He's such a dirt bag. I don't know. I don't know. Nobody beat the show premiered. Honestly now, what don't you like about the, you know, why I think he's been fucking people forever. Like I've been here. I started meeting guys like I'm not gonna put anybody on the spot or mentioning him. I have not met a single person that fought for a white that had anything good to say about it in a way, except why didn't I can't really say have conversation with Conor McGregor about the white. But he's the only guy I see chomping around with Dana white as a fighter. Which is ironic because he got asked rape for more than anybody on that may well, the fight by Dane, if you're traveling around like that I've already said this to several people convert after. Is money taken on the may. Well, the fight by. This money. If I make eighty million dollars, you take forty before I have to pay anybody else or anything, but it wouldn't fight like, I'm fighting. You know what I'm saying? Like like, I and I'm definitely not going to tell them around. It'd be buddy, buddy. You know, what I'm saying those the only we can fight because Dana why they don't give a fuck with the only way comply. So you can fight it not befriends. You know what I mean? Like anything I had issues on my promoters, became whatever it boiled down. What if it boiled down to you? William though. Yes. Yes. Of course, we I couldn't get the eighty million unless you rape me. Okay. So I'm going to have to get right by you. But when our friends we'll. Okay. What I'm saying like that you can do that. I'd also he's he's basically the biggest star in the sports. So you're you have the ability to help other fighters, you have the ability to you know, before I got into the spat with with Conor McGregor on social media. I was kind of pushing with guys like Conley and rent tour to put the Mohammed Ali act in MMA. You know, what I'm saying because I felt bad for he's always say I used to always say if you fight for to make a living fighting it's a hard way to make alluring combat is a hard way to make a living. No matter what sport kickboxing multi am. I may boxing, whatever you if you fight to make a living. It is a very very difficult way to make a living. So I feel like these guys won't have Ali act, and this guy this guy is a dishonest brick, you know, so you don't, you know, you need the man I was kind of you know, like posting about it with back in what Conley was posted and whatnot. And then I got into the whole McGregor situation. And I saw the whole world of come after me. And I said, you know, what fuck these guys, bro. I don't need help these guys they can help themselves. And no, no. Disrespecting. But if you don't have your if you're going to back your own even the fighters who told me, so if you're going to back your guy, even a guy that is is applauding the guy was fucking you and shake hands. And hugging him, which is not helping your cause because you're not going to get to a better life because the nothing's going to change he could be the only guy that might make a change and he's set of plotting Tillman around with the guy rape and everybody. I don't know how anybody respect the guy. Honestly, I I would have no respect for him. If I was in the same sport as him, you know, so fighters in boxing, we have the option to hold out and take off promoters to court and do all this might you to see you Andre ward. Did that even though we missed time, and it's a big risk to you career because you may miss time. And then you're gonna you're gonna be in court battling. But because of the Elliott, there are laws that stipulate that you have to be paid a certain percentage of whatnot contracts, whatever, and I can take you to court if I don't if I think you're being dishonest about it. And I may if they don't want to make one hundred million and pay you two million. We can do it. He can do it. You don't care if you generate ninety million you don't have to take the fight. But, but if if you don't take the fight you don't fight they contract with fear for so long as people being blackballed when they try and say that for that. But that's why interested right now you guys heard much about the class action lawsuit. I think Randy couture's, Jon Fitch. I mean, I I keep hearing what's going on with that though with the class action suit. Yeah. It's not a stance. I think that'd be. It's a shame because because it's almost you have to be a martyr because your career in sports is arrests mall that if you hold out or get black hole, you're gonna miss years like even in boxing. It's it's a risk when guys do this. But at least in boxing, they they got winning court. You might see an Andre ward missed like three years of their careers. You know, prime years of their careers. You know, and you know, it's it's it can leave you bitter. And you'd almost have to be a modern to do an because you're you're looking to change the whole all the rules. You know, like you need to change the rules. And like I said, I mean, I felt like before before all of this. I was kind of behind it. I don't you know, you look at any previous interview with me before the Conor McGregor situation. I backed it you know, what I'm saying. I gave my love and whatnot. And I still do. I mean, it's whatever, but but as far as the community now, I I got I gotta be honest. I got turned off by not so much the fans fans of fickle. You know, what I'm saying like fans, you know, boxing fans fans, they're all annoying pretty much, you know, so but. Okay. I'll say, no. But, but but but the fighters you, would you would assume the fighters no better because they're within the business, you know, and they know better. But but I was getting told by fighters like they were fans, bro. Like legit fighters. I'm not gonna mention names like I was getting rolled by. Yeah. I was getting true public radio. Rolled by guys like you watch on TV. And like you're like, they one of them was a headline guy. You know, what I'm saying on Twitter? Are you don't want me to look at it? If I mentioned the name, then I'm going to then then it's going to be because it because the arguments are like it was kinda over boxing. So then you get into on all except in the case. I don't need to step in the cage, bro. I go. I go with my world, and what we do in my world. And if you want to man up talk about my world respect my world and disrespect me in my world. Then we're gonna have a problem in my world. I got my I'm not respect that you and your world. I always gave me love, and I always gave the mixed martial arts fighters and the sport of mixed martial arts law because like I said, it's a combat sport. It's difficult is difficult way way to make a living. But you also understand the skill level and everything else involved, of course. But if you're gonna come and go different spec because you think you do I'm gonna may. And you're gonna you up on your boxing expert, and you're gonna come try to climb me on my on my page when I'm having debates on one or even debates I hadn't on the do a Connor. The the argument I had was over all over body shots. Somebody was talking about body shots, and my main boxing, I was trying to go into the difference with body shots. And I'm a man and boxing is that in boxing, you have a more sustained body attack. You don't you don't have as much of a sustained body attacking because guys get closer, you can grab you know, you can. Can the instinct is to lock up. You know what I'm saying? And then you wind up on the floor whatnot. So the body attack is more sustained than boxing because you can get a guy in your ass or fight rep it to your liver, and and you know, you can't lock up because the wrestling would just break you, and they'll go back to you. So you're pissing blood. Not the you're not pissing blood. And it may take a bed kick to your liver. Of course. But but you're it's a more debilitating body and that anyway, that's relevant the point of this conversation. I was having a conversation on my social media about this. And there's times in and starts to like say this and that so if I if I gotta mention names, then they're not gonna I've already got to beat McGregor. I don't eat more beef with other people. The all in them in boxing and not all admit, they'll beat the shit out of me. Out of me, don't come to me in my sport. And try to pretend like, you know, something 'cause 'cause all you gotta do is put a glove to it. You know, what I mean, we we can get in a ring, and we can do it put a glove too. You know, what I mean, I will beat the shit out of you, you know, and that's fun. And like I said we can in the cage. I admit it. You know, I would never do expect. It makes martial artists about their sport. I would never just make a multi fighter about their sport. Or a kick box or whatever, you know, what I'm saying. Because you know, and people say, oh well in the street is it's not about in the street first of all because we're not doing industry everybody. This is the way we make our living. You know what I'm saying? We're this is our business. This is the way we look to support ourselves. Our families sort make a future for ourselves. But do we really talking about street fights now, bro? Like, you can take broken glass. You can take gone really talking about three fights this guy could call you. If this got caught you want, bro, you if you if you cock your gun and shoot them. What happens? You know, what I mean like who's talking about SRI fights, you know, what I'm saying? When we're talking about our business and each hour umbrella, and our our our. A route in combat and there's different branches mixed martial arts, boxing, kickboxing, Thai, whatever, and you respectful them, which is which is the way it should be. They should all be respected. And I think like I said, I can't really make fans with a thing because you know, they're they don't really know a lot. But, but I think the fighters when it comes on the fighters, I think it's a little bit more disrespectful, and it was respect on a lot of levels. Because then like, I said wouldn't mixed martial arts. You're defending a guy who was basically partially responsible for you being buried and now making any money, you know, so I the end of all that I decided to say, you know, what my life is good. I'm set for life. You know what I'm saying? I'm good. You know, these guys are hurting for money. They deserve betas are whatever mild the money they make and so they make a tenth of it. You know what I'm saying? And okay, and you don't have a choice, and you don't have. And you know, I would have I can't say anything. But I can I can I come back you I can go I can go after Dana white. I I couldn't be Paula public figure. I can back you and go after it and say mixed martial arts. These needs the Ali-Akbar man these guys needed since. Thousand seventeen I never said anything again. I was just aren't if it's anything, and I won't they can do it themselves and again, no disrespect to you. But you know, obviously, you're hey, I'm not I'm not a fighter. I retired thousand minute. I'm I'm I'm doing the bare knuckle boxing stuff now. So yeah. So a little bit different. So I was just talking about here. We're talking about the body shots right there. I keep telling people that that's the way to go in this. Because you think that club disseminates that whole punch, right? But you gotta bare knuckle that's like a stabbing into you. And I mean my last fight as they believe a couple of body shots able to finish the fight pretty quick. And you and you find the crevices there's a lot of. Oh, yeah. I mean, really back a lot of it. You know that glove kind of the law that that that doesn't stay away from us. We got a lot of crevices. Table. Yeah. Big, paulie? We know what you're you're stances on Dana white for the longest time. The UFC was owned by Dana white and the fraternity brothers. Do you have that feeling like a contract where it's like he's got wanted to? All they wanted to keep them. Yeah. Okay. Did you have those feelings towards just the UFC in general? Was it just I think, you know, what what the thing is that his thing. I I think that dumb, obviously, the culture and Emma may and the fans is different than it is in boxing. But I think people were happy that because there was one big organization all the big fights were able to be made because. The kind of foresee that you fight the sky or you don't or you have no job, you know, while in boxing, you can there's promotional alliances. There's all that other stuff. So I understand why the why the the positivity towards him from a fan point of view, more more big fights got made. But you're still seeing you know, you're still going to see politics involved. You know, Dana. What Dana once you know, what I'm saying? Like like, my my copy just won the title last year, Connor hadn't defended. And how long you know, what I'm saying? Like, it was finally vacant. How long I mean, you got stripped of the one forty five title when you know, what I'm saying not defendant in how long, you know. Like, you're still making your own rules. You spend it was Nikko. Nate I spend the marijuana the Nick Nick Nick for five years. But then you're John Jones fills them with a test. And you just shift it over the you know, what I'm saying like, so you're still doing the same shit. You know, I mean, it's not like boxing does this on politics is involved, regardless. But at least like I said. A guy like you. Let an animal like Dana run run the show because I've met Scott Coker. Handful of times, you won't find the guy who's on happy with Scott Coker Coker, but you'll find everybody who's fought for Dana white Conor McGregor. It's on happy with Dan white and everybody though, well everybody except literally one guy I've met his unhappy with him. I have not met a single guy that had a good thing to say about staying away. Guys have said bad things about the internet. But I've also met a lot that say good things. He put a lot out there for Titas. Sorry. That doesn't count for two years. Don't get he's making the money that doesn't count. I'm saying maters because the way they do put their money on us. That's that's fine. In the way, people treat fighters, I was a fighter. I look people that don't like guys. So as a fighter you have to you have to be compensated. Right. But there's no show without you. You know what? I mean, you you're being basically pimped out. Anyway, you know what? I mean, you're choosing to be pimped out because you choose to you choose to have. But they're still. An etiquette in which you treat these guys. You know what I'm saying? And this guy is an animal. He has no etiquette. Like, I said, I don't know how somebody didn't beat the share them. But I get it. Because you have see is it was was the only game in town for a little bit. And that's true guys can't say anything because otherwise they get blackboard. So it's a lot of guys on their contract. Who can't say anything all might be unhappy? You know what I'm saying? But again, I I read it from the fighters perspective. I'm not telling you from the fatigue is, of course, if not too happy the business. What are they ought to be happy about, you know, and and fans fantasy and the place they want what they got to be unhappy about, you know, but but you still should want your favorite fighter to be able to make a good living. It's not cool when you see your favorite fighter. When when he's when he retired out in the street, or or or, you know, going through hard times, you can't get a job. Now, he's damaged or whatever I've seen it in boxing a million times I've seen there are guys that I came up with when I was a teenager in the box and genetics. So look at them be like, wow. These guys are unbelievable world championship. We'll fighters. I game up increases Jim in New York when it was when it was Gleason, Jim like when it was when champions Bredon, they're left and right. And I look at a lot of the guys that were there at that time. Now there they got nothing Brome, and they're so damaged they came and get a job. You know what I'm saying? So so, you know, it's not cool to see that you guys you looked up to to see that you want these fighters to get compensated for what they deserve because then they retire. And if they haven't made what they were supposed to make there's nothing to take with them past that retirement, then where do they go? You know, what I'm saying a lot of them keep fighting too long. And that's the problem. But what I'd like to see a lot of fighters. Do good things with the money. They don't make enough. Anyway, like, you're saying Atlanta know, what I would like to see I think the UFC especially has responsibility for certain people who fought there for just like the NFL if you play the NFL for four years, you get some form of a pension if you five. We'll get some compensation. So let's say you get like a fight like Mark Coleman one of the guys. You know? I love Marc coma growing startling pioneer. So, but he was still fighting later on. I remember I had a fight not talking about anywhere for this case. It's like I can't afford to go into Chris. I'm thinking damn you can't afford to go out and he's broken down. What's he do? Now. He doesn't have anything built up. So if you fall and built this organization, I think they have a responsibility say you're going to get to grandma three rent something something, I don't know what. But there should be based on number of times you fought now. And I know that you have. Said that long you good things. Buildup would want my some of my daughters to contribute to that same with the NFL MLB. And here's my thing when they sold for four point two and take that point too, and you can pay it for the next forty years. You know, give them. You have to read though, man. But here's the thing. It's like they try to hide behind. The you guys are independent contractors. You have to wear what you told me to wear have to be here at the same time. I can't find anybody else. Broke. So to me, if they were really they would take care of all these laws, they can pay these people, you know, the people who need that money like that. And then they're not out in the street broke are still trying to fight when they're forty eight years old because they have to I want people to be taken care of the younger generation associate and union. Do what you gotta do. But it's really tough in the sports. I it is because like you say get blackballed. And then where do you go? Oh, I can't I can't five thanks for years. But I don't know what you know. Like if you see that if you're a teenager, and you see that like. Had why put yourself in a position where you're dependent on martial arts thing like that. They think I'm going to be the next John Jones or I'm going to be the next kind of Gregor. I wanna make eight million dollars a fight. That's what they think. They don't they don't. They don't have mature enough. You like, for example, more enough, for example, like Conor McGregor who's showman around with Dana, white, right? The compete fight. His base was three million great that have pray per view sales were like astronaut nominal. So he's going to get another what whatever on top of that. How ways you'll base three million dollars? When you are the may whether of your sport. You don't I'm saying and not to defend Conor McGregor is he's a pussy because he's actually taken it with a smile and chairman around with this guy. You know what I'm saying? But how is your base three million dollars in Floyd's base one hundred million flat? And then you on then you're getting on money on top of it from people, you sales that that is crazy. And then you're going around with this guy. You know, what I'm saying like and that for yourself. You don't do it for yourself? Like, I said do for your brothers in the sport. You know what I'm saying? Like those those guys have the same dreams the same goal to accomplish things trying to make a living. Some of them were hard hard times doing for that. At least you know, what I'm saying. Like, how will you allowing that three million dollar base for the computers Conor McGregor free Connors basis three million dollars and he's Conor McGregor? And that what did that show cell? So the national optical amount of money. You know what I'm saying? So what would go back to the pension when these guys are taking so much of this money? They're taking so much of the percentage of these sales in this money. You easily have a pension. Nobody has donate. They have it themselves. They have they have. I'm not a you have secure leader economy agree to that. But I think what what happened in the sport is what they it's come from the UFC is they don't want the they've convinced the fighters that they don't want their money public. So a lot of the backpay whether it's a discretionary bonus or pay per view bonus. They've convinced it's a bonus. He's based on it's not public. It's public. It's also not going to be life changing. It's not. Hundred fifty million off the hubby thinks you think you may fifty million. That's what the rumors are. That's that's bullshit. Rumor there's no I know that based. I know numbers in these businesses. But what are your numbers? What's no way? Basis three million. He didn't make one twenty million more on the and it's only because and that's only Mejias works differently. Polly. They're not giving him more percentage. If you guys are asterik when you're on your way me million. I think he made three million base which was on Donald. Oh, we know that being made on the twenty on the sales or it could I've heard the fifty. I dunno not because it's impossible. It's impossible for you. Because especially. Did you? I'm gonna explain it to you. Okay. You get pay per view points. If you're box or whatnot. And the paper your points are or whatever they might be for for for for your main event. Okay. And they're negotiable. Okay. Am I may think about it from a common sense perspective? They're already raping you to begin with. Now sudden they're gonna open their pockets, and we're going to be a big percentage of your sales. You're going to get a pick percent. They don't want. They don't want to keep in mind who you're dealing with. If these guys rape, you here here here here what they certainly going to be generous here when they would've wanted public. They don't want to they don't want to do with all the fight. They don't want to public. They're so generous they only want to pull it. They fucked me comments that come. They don't do it with all the fighters. I know that will do all the fighters. But even the ones they do it with they're not giving them that kind of those kind of points on the pay per view. Look at any Connor did not make more than the twenty eight doing Corey if he even made twenty more during the Coronado say five hundred thousand yes. Even even my personal like that. I get that. I get that. You know, what I'm saying like promoters that want to pay the pay twenty billion so believable. But now. Fifty. I'm either way because it's too much points. It's based on the point system of the pay per view, you're generating twenty million on on on normal points on a normal points say the points split that he has with with the promoted with UFC was average. Okay. And because it sold so much. He can make twenty million if he, but he didn't get a normal points. He might have. He's definitely not getting more than average. He's definitely not getting one. They're not going to say, you know, what you deserve a fifty fifty split Sherman minute gets less than he bought on about for sure, they get them and lesson boxing. I'm talking about the way. They rape you. Okay. There's no way Dana's. Well, we give you three million for five. That's not right. You know, what you're caught on the on the paper. You sales is going to be seventy five twenty five for you. That's what we're talking about. Your recruiter, though, we're talking on the Goshi aided pretty good for him. So here's otherwise, you're right. Other fighters. Time he still point based on what he's supposed to be making. So I guess you other fighters are not make what's yours is yours. What's yours is yours saying like you question? How much do you think he made from the from the fluid may with the flight I heard I heard from good source of eighty million dollars. And I heard okay. And I heard Danny took forty. So here's my question. Would you think about doing another fighting? You have see if you're not gonna get at least twenty sent me. I mean, I'm thinking what what's mindset if I just made fifty million dollars to do any other fight less. You're paying me an awful lot of money. I would think I mean, at least I've got I did it for three million piss off. So they have to be here. I had the pay per view points. Of course, you've heard Dana white play that angle to the mainstream media and say what tank. When the media like when they go on the media shows, the mainstream media, not the media, and they go man you find there's don't seem to make much. You don't you're fighters. Don't make what the the NFL they they they go in there. And they negotiate fifty percent of the revenue goes to the players. Yeah. Fifty percent. You know, and it's a lot less. Rumors are ten percent fifteen percent or whatever. And they get asked about that a lot and Davis says, well, that's not what we pay him on the back end. That's his token answer. But we could win the athletes. Okay. To believe in the fact that oh what Chris if the whole world knows you're making eight million guess, what everyone's gonna come after you that favorite on pay you what and having a little bit here and you'll get and then you're like, oh, thanks. That sounds pretty good to me. That's his token answer that he gives now some fighters that Conor McGregor. How can I know what he says? I know what I know what I'm selling. I'm gonna get big on the back end. But he's he'll play ball. Because you know, what at some point. He was that guy that was making twenty and twenty two, you know, and then all of a sudden, you skyrocket. Okay. If that's the way it goes. So you're saying the back end is always worthwhile using for some for some guys for a few. Okay. So. So what you and they can't talk about it. And he can't do that. Okay. So why is it a single guy who has retired from the ultimate fighting championship? A single guy talked about that back end was really worth it. You know, what those back in will really worth it not because because. Tired? You can't burn anymore. Okay. You can't be burned anymore. You retired. Why hasn't a single guy not won a single guy who has retired from the ultimate fighter jets? You've said, you know, what those back in one. And you know, we may pay me this. But that back in, you know. I was sure, you know, why because we're not worthy because the first person it's really ever bit as counter, I mean, that's the first person that had our I think I mean, nobody else has been able to manipulate or not manipulate they kind of create a Mazda with this. You can have hotter is a monsters far as generating. Yes. What I compare it to Floyd Mayweather, okay? Because you're the spoi- Mayweather of your sport money, generating power wise in terms of generating money, and it's not even close. He's a pauper. Okay. Compared to me whether so that that right there. He's getting raped that right there because you're generating the same kind of numbers, maybe even more at times. Okay. And you're getting a small small small fraction of before it was making ultimately, okay? Okay. And if he's getting raped, and he's the one with all the poll, he's with all reputation. He's one who's changing the game. And he's getting rape. Like that. Trust me. They're all getting ready. They all all right. So let's talk about well actually goes wants to question. No break the enemy junkie radio on fighting nation channel nine three. Stay close. We'll be right back. We have Polly honesty in the house and Chris Lytle. He went stop shop for the best, bro. Wrestling and boxing, talk is right here. Sirius XM fight nation channel ninety three. Increase force them to retire undefeated from Emma with a record of oh, oh, they are gorgeous, George and goes, and this is MMA junkie radio. Tune in tomorrow for triple header from the English Premier League on Sirius XM FC first Lester ticks on the wolves, followed by Manchester. United versus Brighton, then it's an old fashioned London. Darby as Chelsea clashes with arsenal. Coverage begins tomorrow morning at seven eastern on siriusxm FC one fifty seven and streaming on your phone or at home on Sirius XM connected devices, and speakers, we have paulie Mauleon Ozzy from Showtime boxing here. Former two-time former boxing champion also the owner of future legend and Conor McGregor is best. Friend, Lionel also a full time firefighter in the city of Indianapolis. He went with us on the latest military visit to go visit the troops. That would also why Chris so thank you again for doing that. And of course, he'll be bare knuckle fighting for bare knuckle FC on February second in Cancun may he go. That's right on fight dot TV WWW, fight dot TV twenty nine ninety five. You get to see USA versus Mexico. His opponent is Jason. Unless you gotta get that. We're always supporting lights out chris'll. All right guys this transition to this real fast. Our daily debate. I showed you guys a picture of the new UFC belt. So that's what the question has to do with. And we'll just kind of throw it around and see what the opinions are from a former enemy fighter. Current bareknuckle boxer a retired. I think he's in a box again boxer slash bare. Knuckles. Calling your name, brother. You need to go out to over here. Here's the question a lot of money. What do you think of the new you have C championship belt? You got three choices. It's great. It's okay. It's terrible. You start off Chris. I'm going to go with it's okay. I definitely wouldn't say it's great. I like the idea of maybe changed up looking a little bit different. But I mean, I didn't really do much for me when I looked at. I mean, it looks. I don't know that enough to it or something. I don't know. I want there to be a little bit more. So I mean, I it's all right. I like the idea chains like you were talking about every now again, but to me out to pick something a little bit different. But that's just me. Paulie? Yeah. I feel like it's okay. It needs needs some stones on it. Yeah. Yeah. A box on builds granted modern boxing bellsa fake fake Soanes on it. But at least it gives it gives the perception decorated a little bit. It's cool. I mean, I don't mind the changing like we were just talking about. But, but I think because I think when you change belts every so often like they do on boxing like know, I was IBM world champion. I remember seeing my old IBM like the eighties. And it will like it was different. It will look really cool to me. You know what I'm saying? And so I was like, wow. It's different than mine. You know? So so I think like those old ones can become collector's item. So I think that's the cool thing about it. Like with the belt. The anybody has the old one is like a collector's item. But yeah, they could probably be a little more creative with it. I, you know, it's okay. Let's go. Come terrible. It's not great. But it's okay. It's okay. Well, you goes I'm gonna have to go with it. Okay. As well. I do like the ideas behind it that you were talking about the stones. And what they're doing. Now is every time champion defense. They add a stone. So it kind of separates from other champions. It's got a different. Look, it's got their weight class on it their name on it. I like that their flag, however to me. Come comes off a little WWE looking. And I didn't like that. I kind of liked the way the old design was more of the may style boxing has their style. So I'm just going to go with it's. Okay. All right. Listen, man, you know, big UC supporter, but I'm closer to everybody. It's terrible. But I'm closer to it's terrible in. It's okay. Here's what I what I don't like is in the Reebok era. And I've said this many times when the fighter comes out. It's as Reebok and you have see. And so you're hanging out as a fan, you know, trying to get hi fi. We're just telling the final go out there and kick some mass. And there's you know, you know, who John Jones is get them bones. You know, who call me is and McGregor. But a lot of them. You're like, you know, and as they're coming by you're looking and only when he goes by is the name on the back, and I don't like that the UC's always like us us. It's the fighters. And so in this case when I saw the belt, and I saw the legal. Oh, man. I felt like you'll see could have been present. But again, taking the front front and center. Stage. It reminded me of the Reebok thing. And I I don't know, man. I got part other than that. It's clean. It looks like it's really like it's different or more modernized version because some of the old ones kind of do remind me of NWEA, you know, whatever not the rap group with pro wrestling. And so I get a little bit confused when I see all that stuff. But here it was really really clean, and I agree with you. And I'm not obviously everybody. There's no love loss of me in the UFC. But I, but I do think if you are a UFC champion misdeeds to it. And I feel like they have to show that it's the UFC. But there's there's you'll UFC here this here, and there's UFC here. And I don't know. Maybe if it was at the top would that be better? So yeah, it was just the reaction that would you what would you replace the center with instead of you have see what would you replace something that 'cause they don't call them world champions? But something global globe seems to obvious. But but something that kind of goes like like like. Like like like lobe or something like? Has a crown and the WB now the Diaby f has the eagle in the middle of something. So you want something like that at one hundred fifty pounds on this planet who and you have see on the earth is. And I'm the guy you know, what I mean? Yeah. And the UFC maybe on the side. It's the reaction that I had as I stare at it, look if I was a champion put one around me I'd be fucking running around with it everywhere. Tim Suva because I'm like that. But, but it was the reaction that I had now remember I said, I'm closer to its terrible. Then it's okay. I definitely didn't think it was great. But I don't think it's terrible. But that's just I was closer. I hear you a little bit on the thing by all of it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Right. I hear you a little bit on the name thing. But if we're hearing a sportsbook, and we're looking at right now, there's all there's hockey there's football all of those sports. The names are on the back and what's on the front. Phoenix suns. Right. San Antonio Spurs the Buffalo Sabres, I think that's just the way sports are. But I hear you. I wish you wouldn't hurt your new sport. You could you could change things. If you want to save time. This isn't a team sport, you know, at the end of the day trying to get that this is UFC Bray, but it's not a team sport. I mean, I think the reeboks whore while anybody who likes that you took away a lot from those fighter, and they could've figured out what the benefit that could've put another spot for you guys to bring over your your own sponsors. I'm not I'm not in that train. I wasn't involved with true. That's true. You were gone, but I was pretty reboot. Yeah. All right there you have it. That's the daily debate brought to you by the enemy junkie radio team. And of course, politics about three bucks schools a lot of fighters over and pretty Reebok was better you were able to get more shares. And this is the great thing about, you know, things like one coming into play in Bella toward growing and whatnot. Because because now fighters are going to you know, they got that before any time. There was a an organization that was competing that UFC would just buy them out fighters will be stuck, you know. But at least you had things like a not a non Reebok deal UFC what you could make money on the sponsors on the side or whatnot. Three bucks really cuts. The legs off a lot of potential sponsors. You know, for I think, you know. The more UFC does does things like these. They're going to cut off their spite their face because one is growing bigger Bella towards growing bigger. And I it's going to get to the point where if they don't start treating the fighters better. You know, these guys are gonna go to fight for all the other ones. Here's the results real quick of the daily debate was fifteen hundred votes came in forty eight percent said it's okay. And look the other to split the rest of the almost fifty percent. So twenty nine said, it's terrible. Twenty three percent said it's great. So they have sorry, Chris. Go ahead. Not too many greats. Yeah. I was going to say sorry about that. That's my bad dog. That's me getting hit. All right. So goes he wants his. Yeah. I was going ask, paulie. So obviously the name Conor McGregor comes up so much. I want you to clear something up. And it's this is all the time. And, you know, people like, oh, you talk about you know, what does this mean? We're kinda McGregor interviews. I'll do one interview and fourteen articles will come out with the quotes with quotes from that one interview. And so that then people make like this guy told him out in fourteen different times one conversation. I had. But you know, I was asked about it. You know, and this is gonna may junkie and even on our show your name comes up quite a bit. So what I wanted to ask you was in all these talks and all these rumors that get thrown around. What's the closest we like is it a call has there ever been on number nothing close non out Heyman? Was you know? Mentioned in the very beginning. I think you mentioned things are being away. But they didn't do it because, you know, Conroy Wednesday in Carnegie into anything without Dana. So. There was really never came close. Then I really think McGregor also has MacGregor holds a lot of power over his own team. He's on titan team. And I think some of it is also like the mental games McGregor likes to play. You know, he'll post something here and there or he'll mentioned something in an interview here and there, but he also like randomly a few months ago. Like, his trainer said something about the sparring where he was kind of letting the cat out of the bag like, you know, what it was a good sparring or. Yeah. You know, what paulie was given as good as he or whatever the hell he said, obviously going to be partially his guy. But suddenly, suddenly it wasn't like paulie gotten cost him with an Ospital anymore. You know, suddenly it was like, so they would I kind of letting the cat out of the bag a little bit as to what really happened, but not not as much, but I felt like all right? What is this guy doing like trying to set up that it was competitive? So these guys trying to set up a fight a one man my team never got cold and one nine you. And it's not up to me at the end of the day. You do. Yeah. I'd do it because I don't like the guy. You know what I'm saying? And I tell you how I wanna do it. Because like I said I want you to put your money where? Your mouth is. You know, what I mean if you beat me up and gave me cautions. And hospitalize, you whatever it is. I don't even what was I don't even know what he said. Do it money winner takes old. Now, you've got to do it winner-takes-all. If you did this put your money where your mouth is you did that to me it might sport risk fighting for free now. Now, you got not now, let's see him put your balls on the table because you've got none. I say, okay. You know, what I send you to the hospital. Now, I'm gonna do I'm gonna don't wanna fix all. Because why am I so willing to do winner-takes-all if it's about money because everybody's blaming Polly wants to pay. They only ones this. Oh, it's a payday for me. When it takes all, I take all the money. I'll beat the shit out of the guy, and he knows it too. That's why that's why he hasn't done it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he can't he gets. He kills himself. If he walks around the ring for twelve Brownsville, stop he'll stop walking. You can't go twelve rounds himself just on on an average. That's what I thought. I mean when people were talking about that fight him at Floyd. I was like man take every nickel. You can't embed it against him. And does he knocks him out in the first round? He has no chance. I mean, I you know, I had fifteen professional boxing matches. And then I started with four round fights. And I went to six and then a like, it's hard to go when you before you dead tired, and I'd had made you have to build up to go in twelve rounds and to go right into that. I mean, I was I knew after went past a couple rounds here. No chance of winning. I mean, you cannot do when I when I left that camp when I left that camp. The odds were over on the eight nine and a half. I couldn't believe on the over on that on a half. I want straight those book about the under. And thank God. I did it then because five week it became eight and a half. And then you would've lost. If you put the other eight and a half, I want straight to the sports book. I'm the on the nine and a half. I knew this guy. Not because he's tired like everybody thinks I knew we had the reason everybody missed misconstrued. When I say, he's got no balls that doesn't mean like, you know, that's like subjective. Because if I don't want to jump off. Off the Eiffel tower and bungy jump. I got no pulse. It's not. It's not about what I talk about having Bolzano balls. It means you commit to what you say. You do. Okay. If you got this fight. Now, you come into it. If you say, you're gonna do this you commit to it. And you see it through whether it's tough or whether it's not because you your words sign that check and on your s acacia youngest damning. So if it gets bed if it gets uncomfortable. You still have the the you still have the have to have the decency to go through with it as a man because you're a man. Okay. That's what I talk about what kind of Greg having no balls because I knew he was pikes. You know, he saw his Instagram post a whole month before the Mayweather fight. He's he's mountain biking all year, and he's all month and he's doing all day. So we're getting ready to treadmill on the water got everything he was. So he's in shape. Right. He's put even if you are in shape things people at home after on the Santa about combat, even when you are in shape. And obviously you understand this you still get tired. It's not like. You trained hard for the fight. So now, you're guaranteed not to go through a bad moment in the fight because you've trained for it. It's not combat combat is you train as hard as you can. But then you get fight night. You may have to go through more off moments. You may also get tired you may. But your mind has to make you believe you can soup you can overcome it. And if you are in shape, and you trained hard you will over come at you can overcome it. But you still have to be willing to win your mind get through this comfort. So it's not like Conor McGregor got tired, Leonard. He can't. He can't. Yes to. Yes. The he has to quit. You know what I'm saying? All he gets tired. I know I love I love that. You're trying to. I love dependable. You just want him onto the bus trust just on them onto the bus. He got tired. Like, I said, I set this all up the right way. We all get tired and fight. We all train we all guitar invites. Well, he gets. Mainly be between a guy with bulls. And a guy was no balls is. We're all in shape fighting through. But when you when you throw it because you can because you trained hard on your shape, even if you win a lose, you went out like a man, and it's like, you know, what you went out like a man Khabib would not have spit on the guy like a bitch that he is if he would have went out like a man got stop and spit on him because he said after all that you really are bitch no-balls, that's basically and like a bitch. He looked at. Because that's what a bitch. Does. He takes. He takes that. You know what I'm saying? And that's my problem. It's not about or Paul. You have no balls getting the cage. I didn't say I didn't tell people I didn't tell people I'll be the man in the cage. I always gave them mixed martial arts respect. I didn't tell people that. But you came to my world respect me my world and made it like this is what you do. Okay. 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Corona 249

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Corona 249

"Arkell. SWEET DUDE demille. Been Senior. Week. I know. I'm a pretty good. Little bit of that Corona Virus Scare would Janus, at work does she still going in? She still go on. Yeah. So so they found out and Wages continued working that day. This disinfected the lab at. Four. And then just went into work at the same time. Interesting. The next. Very interesting. So that ladies. Whoever's husband or spouse or whatever just she's not coming or she's still coming into. He she's the. So. The guy was a contractor. And That his wife was positive were tested positive for. Damn Damn pair. Interesting. In close man it's getting like I feel like I'm on a battleship. Aboard this right fucking there. It's right. fucking there I mean. Like so super honestly like I'm not that worried about it. I mean I get that I can be a carrier but. It's kind of like stopped everybody's life as a whole so I'm trying to. Not Let it affect my life like that like I'm trying to still live my life as much as possible because like I I want to get out of here with an eight-pack you know. The improve constantly good good good for you because I'm coming out of here with a one pack. I'll definitely put it on the quarantine fifteen. I mean it's just it's it's I can't help it because like before all this started well aren't find I can't help it by like before all this started like going to hot yoga two to three times a week. So that itself just check my whole metabolism way up because it's making me sweat like crazy for an hour and then on top of that, I was doing some solid cardio at least once a week and then I'd be lifting weights two to three times a week lake not crazy heavy put. It'd be good moderate weight with a ton of fucking Reps. so like I was moving and I had my metabolism just crank all the time. So for the past six, eight months, I could eat whatever I wanted and be fine with it because I either burn it off for my body just working fast enough where it come off but now. Lives whatever you want what? Exactly still eating whatever I want but I kid still get those same type of workouts because I don't have a good setup for heavyweights have kettlebells bell so I've been doing some stuff. Yeah it's. It's just not the same because you'll also just is different trying to do yoga just here on a mat compared to like. It was hot as fuck. Yeah. Whatever though it's like, it's again I'm still living my life I'm enjoying myself I'm eating what I want y'all got I got a greenhouse that gets one, hundred, twenty, one, hundred, thirty degrees income come over just what your ass off there. I don't know if I could come. We wait to put Janssen quarantine not just go around the back Rim aside. Open the door. You're right. Your Dog's barking at me the whole fucking time they're going to say. They're going to be there that'd be seen sitting right there. That'd be like what the fuck is. This guy my house. Yeah. Oh Man. So what else about hot yoga? Do you like like what is it? It's it's a lot of sweat. So you feel like you're getting a real good workout in but what does it do for you afterwards? And then what gets you up to go back to it? So I think the biggest thing for me is hard, right. Well, one of the big things for me working out is what I get link a really good workout in. I'm just exhausted after where I just want to shower eat and if I have to do something do something but uses just chill. So I come back from there I do shower 'cause I'm sweating my balls off and then. it's really just relaxed because my body's taken a toll and you know just like everything else you got to embrace humble because the first couple of times that I went I was fucking terrible terrible. But like in the last couple of months like some of the moves I could do that I could never think of before like I'm starting to I can start to do handstands now my fat. Put. Myself legs up in the air for a second or two in a controlled manner versus just kind of thrown myself up there. So That's what I get out of it. Just like anything else that you start you. You just got impress getting humbled getting shit on and doing shitty at it forever until it finally starts to click. So I mean it's just like it's just like anything else right whenever you're learning something new the beginnings always the office because you can't do it. It's hardest Shit and it's almost dejected but. Once, you get into the groove things. You learn a little bit dude it's. COMES, to dictate. Unless it's a punishment, is the punishment as addictive or is just like I think a little bit of that because like. I it's both it's definitely some of the punishment because especially because one I'm doing hot your with approves Hottest Fox that's another element that I have to deal with. If it wasn't that hot, it's still is a fucking fast paced, really good stretch really workout. Just, having a heat also, that is like an extra punishment that I almost have to figure out how to endure also. Added fact we're Mike. Our Guy Dude it's not just hard itself. I gotTA deal with the heat too but I mean. It's hot and it's the same length every time right and the same forms. cotton yes and no So the length depends on the teacher. So I've been to mostly constantly go to her an hour. There's a couple that are in our fifteen. Oh, I think I'm thinking about Bickram Yoga. Oh. Yeah. Like A. Thing every time. Yeah. So bicker is very specific where I think it's twenty six. Or twenty two, I forgot the number, but it's twenty something positions that the exact same thing every time. Yeah. Nowadays like the more popularized hot yoga is pretty much have five ten different teachers whatever the number is there's a studio and then there are time periods that teach. So it's really just they're doing their own flow and their own methodology of teaching in whatever class they have at the hottest temperature. So like one of the main guys that I've been built five. Sorry if they have five people, you are they all going on at the same time or is it like one person's up at? For one one course, and then another person's there another day. Teacher wise rotate. Yeah. So most of them usually by class so like. If. They had like four or five classes on one day. One teacher usually doesn't do more than two or more than three. Okay. So yeah. So basically, you you have A. Choice. At least the the studio I go to really a choice between. Who you want as a teacher, the time you WanNa go, and sometimes they have different classes like the new studios a lot more intense overall, but the one I used to go to. That place was to had like restorative and really common classes versus the guy that I go to. Now, who was also, there was a fast paced high intensity just crazy workout class. Temperatures that. I. WanNa say Ninety, nine or ninety eight. Tall nobody. That I could blow the with greenhouse. We've got you. I'm sure you get. US On. Greenhouse yet right. Now yet. In, like a month, I'm going to take all the patio furniture out of our shed and I'm GonNa move some of the stuff greenhouse in in the shed and move the squat rack and the bench there because like I'm a big believer now getting a lot of Sun. And? Just having the heat in that greenhouse, I think is going to make the workout like it's going to supercharge. Yes. Just like a superchargers Yoga. Especially because like I have like tables in there that I I literally just have cushions for patio furniture on it. So it's like I'm using it as storage and I don't have anything growing in the raised garden beds. I do WanNa grow something. But I think that abby also cool to be able to work out in their disconnected I mean it's on concrete like its poured concrete. Handle it. So, have you ever have you ever done yoga? Actually went to a class work. I've done a few yoga classes back at the academy, but that was it. And do yoga all the time she does or used to. Gotcha. When she was in in the city, she used to go to this place on Saint Mark's called Yoga people. fucking. Chinatown, Asia town right there same works exactly. Yeah. Tana food ton of food but I'm yeah. No, we don't do anymore we want to. We sound. Nice. Everything you know we were thinking about doing like right before the whole grown of is thing then. Now, everything's a shutdown we could do at home. It's it's different though it's a little different. Like I think that's one of the biggest things about the whole. Coronavirus Shit that we're going through right I think there's a couple of great things about a it kind of helps people step back in retrospect a little bit introspective at least where you know you, you don't have the or you shouldn't be going out hanging out with people or too much at least should be isolating for the most part. So you kind of have to take a step. Back look at your life as it is on its own without any external features or external stimuli, and almost kind of be able to be good with yourself again, right because now nowadays, we have this stimulus where you get a phone in your hands has Internet has the world in your hands. You got people everywhere doing the same thing you pretty much never need to look at yourself. Yeah. Exactly no time to really stop and introspects. So it's it's interesting because it's going to be really. Really, really weird to see people out of this. Yeah. It's funny. 'cause yet to remove community in order to feel Morrison's community. Now, like dislike. It's Kinda like deprivation therapy. But the While you're depriving yourself of as. People. It's like. Whenever you think about things that like people need to improve on it's never like, Hey, I need to improve myself. or I need to improve how interact with people or treat people. But once you remove people from that equation it's like Oh shit. Probably wasn't that great to some people are. Like. I had some toxic people in my life, and now that you know I wasn't able to hang out them now it's not good. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's. It's almost like. It's almost like mother nature trying to test us. Whether, it was created in a lab or not, or whatever fucking higher being there is whatever you fucking believe. It's almost like the cosmos are kind of putting this in place to kind of see how the entire world react because I don't think we've had anything this global where every fucking country has stopped and completely changed their day to day because this one thing one, hundred percent I was reading an article about this guy he was a European climate change scientists and he was like this is a consequence of corona viruses that you're now conducting the largest scale experiment of. Reducing pollution and how it affects human health and also climate change. So they were saying like over China. Pollution's gone now by like eighty percent something like that I like satellite images taken of area. Show almost no pollution do they could see this on saying Yeah it's crazy. You're what if they're like I can't believe we've been depriving ourselves with the on and then people like revolt. You, know like I'd be pissed. If just businesses that were around me affected my life there's there's something. I gotta look this up, but there's a tax if a company was like next to you and they had a smokestack and all their pollution's blew down wind in your houses down when they don't like care because even though the generate the pollution, they don't necessarily have to deal with it but you're the one who to deal with it. You can't keep that company from being there because you know they bought that land or their leasing that land. I wonder if there's some well most asked approach is there any kind of like credit or any kind of benefit you could get from something like that? I think there is I I forgot exactly what that's called but Just, imagine if it was, it wasn't just like down win. All over you like you can't leave that environment yeah. That'd be absolutely miserable. It's it's. It's it was on there with you when I saw the pictures of China and like how much the pollution cleared up how people were talking especially, how much people are talking about it. You know how big of a deal is when everybody's talking about the pollution being gone being able to see the sky clearly like breathing fresh air. I'm sure they would love to not have to wear face masks. Now you know it's it's crazy craziness. I said. I kind of went back. This is what like I'm just Sean I'm living my life. I'm doing a bunch of Shit just trying to keep myself busy virus or virus. We're living a different lifestyle. So you gotta figure out how you can keep going with all the constraints that we do have. One hundred percent I think part of it is people who are holding out and try not to change anything is still acknowle everything's normal. They don't realize that nothing is not going to go back. It's always going to be different Yup said that's going to be the biggest that that's my. That's what I'm most curious about right. Because exactly like you said, things would be completely different after this. But right how much are they going to? What are they really going to be? How crazy are people going to be like before only saw people wearing facemasks really in. The airports and that's only some some people a select few. I have a feeling now that number is going to be so much higher of people wearing masks all the time everywhere. is going to be China. Another thing is I was at the grocery store. This past Wednesday just to pick up like a few things that will now like holes over for a month. and. There are people were. Crazy crazy masks like a plastic hardcover on top of like some kind of filter. But it's so disturbing because people are wearing masks and then they're just like immediately compromise themselves like this guy I'll picking up bandaids and I I'm out there no PD right. I don't have a mass channel have gloves on and. For me I'm like. Well I have a very weird philosophy about this. So I'll cut down a tree and I'll wear. I safety glasses. But I couldn't give a fuck less if. I was wearing a long-sleeved. If I was wondering flip-flops, I'm like if this tree falls on me when I'm wearing Sneakers versus foot flops I'm still losing that foot. Like people people think ps like a like an invincibility closed does not it's it's just slightly more safe like it'll prevent you from paper cuts and splinters, but you're going to fucking die. Aren't if you don't have your head on right so like this guy that I was in the first eight I'll. Picking Up. BANDAIDS and this this guy takes out his cell phone. Dow's number and puts a cell phone up to his ear like against his face and goes, Hey, what brand probiotics do you like to get? He's like talking to his wife almost like this guy. has been touching everything along this place even though he's got glass or even those gloves on, then touch his phone, and then he put the fucking phone to his face. You know. Right, there to get all these out there to think they're doing the right thing I mean. Just. Talking about idiots right. College kids all those college kids who were going to go to spring break and all the shit went down and they go home instead like you see all these people in Florida all these dumb ass kids still go to the beach and all that stuff granted. They are college kids. So I get that they're dumb asses in they're going to do what they're gonNA do but. At the same time. That's of just speaks about the whole population where there's always going to be a couple of dumb asses who think they might be doing right or they just ignore it completely. There was a guy who was on apologizing and he but he's the guy who was like in the interviews he was like. Yo you've been planning this trip to two and a half three months this trip to Miami. So we're not. We're just not GONNA give up on it. Or. Even going. House like this guy's literally talking about two or three months out of his life and you know some people are dying allies thirty. So they're missing out like you know just whatever lifespan is forty five years if you assume like the life expectancy seventy five. How do you weigh that? So ridiculous. So but then he apologized when he went home to Ohio. It's funny like those. Those are the kind of people laugh at right because. Just. Like you said, it's only two months out of your life. And This might only be a month or two it might be longer. It might be might be less who knows and you know there's a lot of people hurting more than one guy can't go to Miami people have canceled big events at canceled big life events while it's a wedding kids birthdays you know things that are actually more important just cooking going on vacation or wherever the hell he's going. All right. All right. All right. Let's try to keep a corona virus free. I didn't. Fuck of ours. Yeah I don't want to I hear about a too much slice the. Last thing about it is the fact that so I don't listen to the news because all it is just perpetuates all the negativity ten thousand cases twenty does it just keeps fucking going. So I literally don't watch the news I just do my own thing p. smart about it and I love Google give me a recap of what happens during the day once a day just some up to date. Make sure nothing crazy on. And that's what I've been trying to drill into my mom because she he's bugging out about this many cases that many case. I'm like mom. If, you're just being save. You're doing the smart things who cares what's happening the news is just going to be reporting all the badge that happens they haven't been saying anything. Good. So fuck that shit turn the news off. Live your life as much as you can while as smart calculated as possible. So the last thing corona related we'll talk about UCLA to. Forty. Nine. Okay 'cause this segue so Mike Tyson did something really cool. The today usually has his podcast called hawks where he has guests. Along with his Co host Evan Burton who's ex football player. But the other day he did something that he called safe distance. Had Dana White on them actually. So you know them talk about things and the fact of how Dana still trying to make sure to forty nine goes on he's just looking for venues try to make it happen whatever weekend. I thought Dana White says only about ninety, nine point nine percent. Then, you has been found. So I think just says that in the news but like. She was also either that or maybe as you're Rogan who who's saying it but like. Defined? No, it was definitely on that that ten minutes thing with Mike Tyson where he says did find an event then something would change. They'd have to move somewhere else the next day. So it's really day by day right now. So until it's announced, I mean it's all a bunch of bullshit because who knows what the Hell's actually happening. So Joe Rogan experience was saying something about Florida. Florida. Has Like limitation. or or their? Cattle ship it was talking yeah. He's talking about like A. Native American reservation or or doing it in like in Saudi like the. UAE. Have a sheet up you know just hosted on their on their palates or in their house here. Bolland. If. If if they don't have fans, they don't need a really big venue right they. They could do it in like Basketball Stadium early, not even stadium they can do look at Jim all they really need cage and all the equipment and then lighting. So. So what is your question? Is it? Should it go on? I I have no question about it because I think one hundred percent I think one, hundred percent should go on. For the fact that. They're smart organization where they're gonNA test everybody, they're not gonNA. Let it happen where they're not going to let it come to chance that sewing gets tested positive. If it happens it happens but they're gonNA take every precaution against it. And I am very much for it because I think that it will help bring some kind of normalcy back to the world being the only sporting event that goes on. I mean it'll make them bank, which is great but. You know it's it's it's that's another thing about this is wild having no sports on. So having some live sporting event on I, think would be huge just for the overall population. Niagara. I. Think Financially it's. It's a no brainer. In terms of risk I feel like there's going to be risk anyway. Yup. Here's one thing that I don't really think a lot of people think about though these guys they're going to go on their, they're going to have a war. Their immune systems are gonna be so compromised and not just that their bodies are gonNA be so compromised. So. Here's my argument against it. Is it worth taking these? These two guys who are healthy now asked them to knowingly reduce their health. And then. Like they better have medical staff standing by because these guys are going to go to war. Yeah. So it's like you know like you don't want these guys come into a hospital because they just fought. So I don't know I, don't know what they're gonNA do about that. But this is one thing that I was thinking I'll just like Damn I. If I were, there are the coach. I'd be like, Hey, this is actually the the math is now different. It's not just you finding this guy because he's the best is like you find this guy and then like a double header you fighting coronavirus. Yeah. You know something along those lines? Yeah. Yeah it's. It's. It's so weird because. They're already putting those. Being at such a compromise time when they're cutting all that way. So they're immune system's fucked and you're absolutely right because it's also coming to the fact of with everything that's going on. You WanNa take another hospital bed for these two, which was a completely voluntary action. where the bed could be used for someone who's actually suffer I would pay the pay per view just to watch Tony and could be. But I don't think anybody should be on guard. Damn. You'd pay seventy bucks for that one fight. Just one fight I mean it's so for me. Yes it's absolutely worth it for those two guys but I guess faulk about I don't know Joe Schmo Fighting Dick Schmidt on the car like they those guys I know they can't afford it. I mean it's not worth it. So let's put. Okay. So I'm looking at the card right now. So go from bottom to top of who I actually WANNA see flights so. and I'll write it from one being I wanNA. See Him. To five being a half seal and if I don't if I don't name them, they shouldn't even be on the card. So the fight pass prelims get rid of them all I'll go fuck yeah. Ben Rothwell John. Valente, that's a one. If I could watch it. Cool. If not whatever same thing with lyman good below muhammed that's a one or two. It'd be a good fight to watch can't. Watch whatever. Your Hall versus Zachary Susan. That's like a three four for me. That's a huge fight I. Love your show and I, think this a huge moment for Souza's career because. If he loses he is on early prelims. He's yeah he headlines. The right. Exactly. He headlines Early prelims okay. Okay I can see that one. I mean he definitely has time in him, but he's been around for. So fucking long that you know he could be at the end of his career at any time. Yeah. So like that's one of the ones I want to see Jeremy Stevens and Calvin cater dude that's a big when I wanna see to 'cause fucking calvin caters on the uprise. Boxing looks bomb and only guy who loses and that actually moves up in the rankings OH dream loss to yeah, he lost to Our good beaten Magma Churov he went. He went up. He was unranked. I think. Wow on rain. Interesting. So he lost that fight he. Fight he won't he winds up. True. True. Islam. Market Jeff. I mean I wanna see this fight versus Alexander's Award I've because see Alexander Hernandez burst onto the scene. Yeah. That's same thing that's before the. Uncle loss of. Kutu lava. Yeah. I can rewatch it again but I don't care too much about it. Yeah. I know that's interesting just because. The Gotha they'll throw bombs debris skill. But it's not but but again, right I don't know either those guys are contenders. Come and Alexander Hernandez could be I. think those guys are both possible champions near future absolutely right but especially I WANNA see him. Like. He is his wrestling and just like his similar style to could be is just so fun. You know what? He's GonNa do. So I I really just WanNa see some some guy like Alex. Got The wrestling, but he's got phenomenal striking Yup. I want to see what happened. So, right. So that's another one who watch. Kusaba if we don't have to watch and we don't have to. Dry as Eunice I'm like I don't know where to put that because. I'm okay with putting that I feel like that's not too important in terms of rankings yet because Waleed just fought she's going to be out for a couple of months. Let's say entourage UNICEF fight in a month right I don't think it's that. I just don't care as much to see that compared to a lot of the other fights. Let's put it like that. What's up with this USC putting belt on Jessica. Gun, judges shoulder over here are what you know I feel like if they're so on the on. Site for the event, they have Jessica Androgen here with a belt on their actual website. Yeah. Timmy because this weird I was like you know if Roses GonNa, you know beyond your just put a belt on her shoulder to but neither one of them was the belt. so He's just weird. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm I have been to this website in while it's change like crazy from last night I saw. If you go to. Work. Yeah I. Mean this is way better than the beltway. Horse is so I don't know what the fuck they probably just haven't of a new picture. With the dolls or site I feel like they have the What is it the sports betting? Basically like it's just all on one sheet like. There's no scrolling and you. Click ability I feel like if they did that for their events. It'd be better than what they have now. I. Just can't scroll any harder you like the what the fuck? I can't get to the bottom of the page any facet. Dude but that's like there are some really see the other problem with this whole thing is that. These guys are contractors, right so if they don't fight, they're not making money and they've already spent a ton of money on fight camps on bringing people in their specific nutrition's all that stuff. So you know I am the guys who are on the undercard. We are the ones who need the most exactly like the ones we didn't even mention. Yeah. I mean, I see the point both ways. If I were them I would be like. I duNNO I. It's it's so much worse to be stuck in a situation versus being able to make. The choice. So it's like. Kabaeva N., Tony they would fight no matter what. And they also have like the. Fortune to not have to. Rely on justified alone. It's I. Don't know. Why don't fight A bit right. They're doing their due as much as they can to make happen, and it's also going to be how are they gonNA transport people to wherever they have to go. So they're doing what they can, but you know, and regardless the sport already is controversial is fuck whatever decision they make whether they do it or they don't it's to be controversial and they don't give a fuck there at the day trying to cover their asses but. I mean, I'm sure a little bit even probably using often a little bit of it is actually thinking. Let's try to bring some normalcy back into this world. So if you Dana White. What would be your decision Matrix? Likes. In. Terms. Of. You know how they say like know presses bad press. At a certain point though if let's say. will say it's it's views versus. How many people on this car get coronavirus? At what point does that lie intersect and just? Below that are below that intersection. It's worth it, and then above is not. Like how many of these people? Let let let's say you're GONNA. Get the most pair us ever right because nobody's got anything to do. Nobody has spent any money on anything else no sporting events everybody wants. Wants to watch this. Unless he gets five million pay per views. How many of these guys are are are you willing to risk in order to get five million? All of it dude five, million crain's. I think their highest. I think the highest number pay per views like two point eight or like just maybe right around three. That's so yet highest is copy versus McGregor two point four. So five million, it's for them. It's worth it for everyone to get in the virus. That's that's ridiculous. Like five million is a crazy number. Any time? That is every single person. All right. So what about this? Every single person in the arena All the thing is every single person who's coming to support these guys, right. 'cause like you gotTA assume they're trading partners or whatever are going to go with them to help them warm up. So indirect contacts I don't know about that. Dude it's it's been kind of weird because like a lot of people are just doing private sessions just with their coach. So I got him for example, he's little just going into with him in one coach and they're just working out of doing shit together. I don't really know and like when Kabibi was still here it would just be him and Javier who went into the gym and just worked out. So I don't really know how many training partners would really be part of this because they only got families Shittu. So it's it's tough to. Drop, to to really give up their lives and their safety for someone else's even if they're so close and I close to them. You know I wonder. How many guys really need to Sparta to maintain fight speech. I think it'd be so funny just. Watch people go in there puck and Rut everybody's got ring rust. Everybody's funny because I was thinking the same thing I'm like training with one guy you can hit pads maybe do a little wrestling, but are you really going to be conditioned? So before they. Should show? People just tapping out the exhaustion but you know what? Tony Ferguson don't give a fuck. He's GonNa flip tires and do fuck and head stands on concrete. He don't give a fuck. Yeah Tony Ferguson until Tony furred. On Joe Rogan experience we're talking about. What, if someone's asymptomatic like you test everybody? This guy is positive for coronavirus. They're awesome dramatic though do you still want to fight this person? Or would you still allow this person personal fight? They're all GONNA say yeah they're gonNa do that shit whether he's I. Think so too. Yeah, it's. Well, it's if they're Acer damatic and have been tested for decorative because you're definitely one hundred percent they're to tests I ruined they have to. My biggest worry is like. There's not enough fighter advocates out there right There's not enough people who are advocating for the safety of the fighters like the referee is out there the medical professional who goes in and checks on them in between rounds even even the one who like looked at macy Barbara was like, oh, she's definitely got a partially torn whatever. Yeah like but at least he was kind of looking out for like he's bullshit but he's Kinda looking out for her also have medicals before and after. Yeah So would a medical professional allow them with Corona virus to fight? I don't know. So. So let's let's break down a little bit. Do you mean if they definitely have tested positive but as symptomatic? Yes. They done they're testing these on the screen like right before the. I wouldn't accept anybody screening from you know they're like, oh, I previous got tested and I don't have it. You know I would test them during way. Before is the furthest I'd let somebody go and then say six hours before the fight you find out. Positive. Show no symptoms. Yeah. But you definitely have coronavirus you'll. It's tough because as a medical professional, can you allow that to happen? That's the problem. Right so I'm not a medical professional so I don't know if they would especially being tested positive as symptomatic. Right so they're pretty, they're pretty much doing physical. So yeah, if everything else checks out to me, that should be okay. But again, right because should've so new I feel like a lot of doctors would also be a little more hesitant in giving people degree life for something like that. Just in case that you know doctor gives them the green light. What if it turns out to be a huge issue for them? Right. So that Doctors GonNa live with that. Yeah. It's. It's a doctor I. Think you have to say just because the person that you're testing is asymmetric doesn't mean the person who fighting is going to be a true true. No you you know that they're probably going to get. Very true. Way Cut forgetting. I would say gonNA go fight I would say definitely they're going to be fucking within hand distance of breathing on each other have one person has waiting on each other. Yeah. If one person has the other doesn't do they're definitely passing along. Yes. I would say I would say like, yeah, the fighters would say yes but I think That that fight will not be allowed to happen. I. Think you're absolutely right. I. Think you're absolutely right 'cause that's helping spread the contamination. Honestly, if I were a fighter, I would you know I like not having these decisions right? Because if someone was like, Hey, I need you to make decision to be a bad ass or not be a bad ass. These guys are going to be like a bad. That's easy. That's. That's that's her whole life. That's why they're fighting because they will go fuck they'll do it. No matter what. But that that's right. That's why they have all the people around them. They have all the other people around trying to give them the advice and. Just be able to help them. Think it every situation possible regardless of what they WANNA do. But think about how many of these coaches are like Yo at this guy fights I get ten percent of this commission. They're going to be. Yeah, I, kind of it's a conflict of interest in a lot of these situations especially for the guys in the lower card like all the champions. Their coaches are set as well your life. The all these guys are lower. On the undercard they don't their coaches are probably just just as no name as these guys. You know like getting getting someone of the US's like a lifetime accomplishment for some of these coaches. So they're gonNA, they're gonNA go hey, when you? Make the decision to be a bad ass that also makes me by association. Bad, ass. You should make that decision. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's. That's roughest part about it because they try to be as impartial as possible. But is that really possible? Is it really possible? Right? Like it's everybody has a hand in the whole jar and whether it's financially whether they stay same thing they've staked out two months of their life to help this one guy become. You know just make it to the next level day after day. So it's it's so many different opinions and so many different people who get affected by which is crazy. So many different people that's see. That's what makes us advance casuals because. Your everyday person is GonNa come in and say. This fight looks cool. What's the worst that's going to happen these guys won't make their money. Won't make their money. But when you really dig deep into it, it goes so much further. It's their managers aren't GonNa make the money they're training partners might not get paid in full people who they fly in. All families that will be affected like. You kind of expect your agent fuck you. But it's like you're coach I don't I. Don't know I I feel like that's that your mentor you know that someone who's brought you along with your son say. Be Hard. I mean I would I would listen to him if I trust them from the beginning which obviously do yeah absolutely I mean the trade, the Duluth just trusting them with their lives. Yeah Man I should do. I. Hope it happens. I hope it happens because again like it's going to help bring some normalcy back in my life. I'm adjusting fine happens. I hope people get healthy I. Hope People from a healthy. I just hope they make this decision with there with open. Eyes. I just hope they don't do too much shady shit just to make it happen. Yeah. Match. I would love to be. In a hospital. Yeah they're just right. If fucking be transported. Yeah. It's like just go to the elevator over there, but you gotta take an elevator to the ring. I think an elevator like the elevated goes past the dressing room and up to hospital bed for you to. Last thing about this is that it's this fight is cursed fop like it's it's it's ridiculous to this is the fifth time I think it was scheduled and that's right. It's it's it's close to be canceled again. It's almost like this just isn't made to be. Done, but one, hundred, percent this by 'cause Corona Virus Goddamn do seriously. USC to forty. Nine Kuroda virus. The Kuroda. Or. The road. DIG Yetlis. So. Are So no more. Talk. Yeah Fuck viruses and see. Art. We don't have to talk about the virus, but you know that's what everyday life is now. Right. So what have you? What are actually been doing? Today yesterday we cleaned up the house a little bit. Like organize our filing cabinets. The thing is stuff is out of sight. It's literally out of mind. Especially, when he when it's out of sight in a folder behind the drawer or you don't go fuck you pulling out organizing it. Making a little bit more accessible and so we've been doing. I'm trying to like Organiz the landscaping a little bit. We have a lot. We have a lot. We really just one more grass. Okay. So I, mean. But this also not that different like I mean obviously, it's definitely different but nothing too crazy out there compared to the past weeks right Obviously. Being quarantines pretty much the same as being some are tired. She people. Oh. I just thought of something that I was like. The hit me yesterday that I felt so terrible about. I even taxonomy this and I was like Yo a fucked up. Emile being a great friend who was like what happened was I go I think if I had gone all in. On the canning system business that I haven't thinking about for. A while yeah I'd be making bank right. brees going out of business. Or they're canning. Business very true. They're just trying to get their product out. Yeah. May It was like you know you can still do this. You still can't. I know it's crazy. Say That because when all this shit went down, I'll thinking about the same thing I like. The market's changing and how people are living in doing things changing what can we do? To. Take. Advantage of the Times not take advantage of people in the situation but just take advantage of how what the whole economy landscape is right now because financially neither of us are hurting right I, mean we could be doing better but of us are hurting so. Right we're not going check to check hoping that we are just thinking worrying about food water shelter on the basis. This is the time where we could kind think about something that. What could we actually implement? That could be longstanding especially with how lives are going to be changing. So. I feel like. To have the least amount of skin in the game, but help, but most people is to become a sort of intermediary. Right, it depends on how how you WanNa view an intermediary. So Amazon back in the day they were like, yeah, let's. Sell books but really are we going to sell books? Are we just going to sell everything where he's going to be the seller? Right, I'm going to be the Middle Man I'm GonNa take your money I wanna make sure whatever things someone else makes us to you. We could be that in terms of like, Hey, this is how we're going to get you alcohol. Cans Aren't new. Alcohol is definitely not new. But. We're GONNA can. Like. Everybody's going to be tired of Bud Light. After a month of drunk bud light. So, how do you change the writing? Well, you gotta you gotTA support these small businesses everybody knows supporting small businesses. So. Now, instead of like what I was thinking about having a canning system only target these certain volume. Breweries now, we should do micro cans like not not minimize the size of the cans a minimize. How much canning we do definitely became the demand is some breweries. Exactly some some brewers can only make maybe fifty cans in a week. So it's like pay I'll I'll pick up that money like will make it a subscription right? You still pay me pay me decently for the year, but I'll make sure I come to you every week ones's wants this amount. So, here's here's a question right aside from being an intermediary who. ADDS value to that process. Right right now, you already have something like post mates where you just tell a guy, go pick me up a six pack of Sierra Nevada. Indian pill L. from. Bayreuth. And then he gets a premium for doing the actual service but there is I don't know about the legality in that because it's still as long as they are confirming everyone's twenty one all over that. But if we become intermediary actually selling the cans, do you need a liquor license or something else to be able to do that as an actual seller of the product? None. So Even even originally with the canning line, you would just can they would distribute loss. Okay. So being. So you and be a full intermediary. You wouldn't be like I need to get. Alcohol in the liquid form from the brewery to the. Status in the supply chain before it actually gets set out the door exactly exactly. Got It. So it's nice that you less skin in the game you don't have to worry about a distribution network. You literally just make you have. Per Brewery, you only have one consumer, the Bruce. So, it makes it easier. But. On the other side of it I think that the changed all laws about. Having beer or alcohol delivered. So it's easier for a lot of like if the burris already had a distribution system, now they can extend that network to individual. Yes. Events instead of just. Most restaurants now, you can just literally a lot of the require you to purchase food also, but you could just order booze also from them. So if you want a Manhattan. Hey I want a forty ounce t-bone and can you give me Manhattan and they'll give you like two separate ingredients actually make that Manhattan at home or they'll just cocktail it up, put it in a to go something and get it out to you. So. It's like even further down the distribution or the supply chain I think it's easier for Burris. It's just that they don't have most breweries don't can. Yeah, that's the thing they have like either minimal canning or. So so here's a question right? How do we? How do we get that canning equipment that you really need to make it happen? It's just it's a startup cost so Armee cotton in in sorry star cost and space so to capitol. Forget. The Cabinet is actually how do we get that because? It. What what I mean to say is. In terms of where importing extra. So for example, my dad works import exporting of commodities. So cranes lentils. Fruits nuts on that Kinda shit and already he's telling me like I was just I was at home yesterday we were talking about it and you know he keeps talking about how the demand is so much higher. Now, put the ports have slowed down like crazy where there's almost like a month lag in between when they're basically like if they wanted to get a shipment, they could probably make something happen to come here in a week or two, versus now that's getting pushed out to being a month and that's her necessities like. Food food items that people need are purchased every day. So it's customs being. More stringent, more stringent Oh. Yeah. So we could buy the Kenny system here. We don't have to get import interesting. I mean, I think. So the math is changed I. Still got together this Business Plan I. think that's actually going to be like the first thing I do 'cause I I'm pretty much kissing fine job. Goodbye for. I think in this environment. People are. Clawing for jobs that? I'M GONNA. I don't know I'm just going to go in there. I want to be too relaxed. Tents on not going to be like. Differ this job. You know like I'll I'll be like, yeah. I don't job that's going to be my career. But, I, I expect a certain level of. of compensation but also like. Or like comfort like I, I want jobs I care about me just as much as I would care about the. So I, don't think that people are that much in the market for that. Anymore I think they're just going to be like people are desperate. So we're just GONNA get desperate people in here and we're just gonNA churn through them until we find somebody who's desperate enough to do whatever we want them to do. So. I'm actually I just I literally just Google can't exist those the displays called CASK DOT COM C. A. S. K.. And it seems like they have a bunch of different canning systems that they implement throughout the world. I mean I I. Don't know anything about this I'd have to really. Look into it and learn about it. It just satisfying if you if you if you. Youtube. mobile canning. It's just so SAS on. I mean, literally just watching cans go by. You know. Kansas for you so that Likes What's it called? Setting it up and everything. I read. Stories I'm watching canning. Kissel beers tilt. Beer cans tilted upside down. Six of them are pushed their briskly on A. Conveyor belt six of them get washed. than. They moved on to the next were filled with beer. Then the next station actually caps them. The next station puts the CAP on and then it's titans the Kapor actually. Doing it to some kind of suction. To get the cap on their, interesting. A while and then it even puts a top on it so. Six of them get. Together. And ready to, be shipped out. Wow. Dude, that's a very simple simple in terms of what it's what it's doing. How Zoo. You just need the cans 'cause it's it washes it. It washed the cans. It feels good beer that puts a top on your done and they'd even put six get six together. and. I saw that site while the site that I was on at least how they are flexible in terms of the size of the can the number of cans that you want to be put together. Interesting. To part of this is like. The the reason I say like I missed the curve is because all these breweries they're they're turning to so the one canning. System that's. Close by or cannon company that's close by us is called. IRON HEART CANNING I believe they're the only one. And there are there are national canning system but they but they can, oh, it's called iron heart canning the owner. The heart in your chest, right Yeah, yeah so I'm a mother say it looks like they do like. They go west all the way out to Dylan, Oy, and Wisconsin. Yeah. So that's one company that that takes care of that entire territory. So, they jack up the prices I know a lot of people don't do them because of how much they. They The quality is a little little bit rough. What would there be any Beers that I know of that can buy these guys. I mean I'm sure there are but it's more about how I would be able to recognize it from a label rate it'd have to be. You Intermedia. The ask the Brewery W. Yeah, we're they actually get canned. Okay. Yeah. The. Thing is like if you type in mobile canning near me, this is the only company that comes up. So so does that mean the brewery ends a keg over to these guys? None are the so what happens is these guys they have to come to the brewery because the safe only place I'd certified. For their beer I got I got literally as that mobile where whatever way they do it. They go to the jury to get hooked up to the match tones or whatever. To actually get the. Beer into the CAN. Exactly. Well and hoops are. Can't. Okay Go. They go. To Hook up either to the bright tank. So the bright tank is the last tank before you keg or can. Okay but it's It's it's. It's a different tank than the mashed on the. Is actually in the very young. Okay I I don't know mashed is the only word I remember when I was watching a show about furry. I'm looking. So I'm on their out. So we are the quality leaders canning I'm looking for a certification or something FDA are. You know something but they don't have any sorts right like I also shit. Can Be you can do whatever you want to suck in. Can It looks like? So, people had asked me before they're like Yo do we do you? Need some kind of licensing or whatever. I. Think so. I don't know. I mean from they're they're they're only going to give you the basics right but we'll typically. I don't know. If if something requires a certification, usually have it on the website like. For my previous company, we had our certification as a as ninety one hundred. and. Ninety one hundred is A Production Facility for aerospace material and ninety one ten is for like refurbishment. Repair, and overhaul for aerospace. So we had that all on our website. So the IHEART canning doesn't have shit about. So maybe not as a company but so I looked up spear certifications. There's a thing called a CICERO. Certified Beer server but it's more `bout. Yeah so so this seems like it'd be good for individuals to have because. It goes a little bit more in depth into. All the specifics of serving the beer. So definitely be helpful for people poor canning to at least have this knowledge whether they need it or not probably don't need it but. Yeah. Don't definitely seems like more of a restaurant serving beer so it doesn't seem it's something required, but it's something that would definitely help. Yeah. I mean. I. Think I'll put this at the top of my list of. What I should be doing For the throw together like a business plan but this is I think. where the money's to be made. Sayaka, we actually just pick the beer yesterday. JERSEY. Girl brewing challengers go bruin they're they're awesome. So they. Number One, we love their canning or we love their brewing facility. The first place that learned about world pooling. So basically what happens is So, just take you quickly through this and use a lot lower used. So you in the very beginning right you actually. Take. The grains you put it through Gristmill, you grind them up. And then you put in your Mash Tun and use your hot liquor tank to put water into your Mash Tun. So it gets to a certain temperature, the enzymes in the grains, the convert the sugars and starches, or at the starches into sugars. And then pump that over to your lauter. Tun. So the way to think about your lauter Tun is it's like your separation ton. So you want to separate the Greens from the war. Sir Putting water through it at a certain temperature and basically just rinsing that grain. Once. You get that out. You actually go into the tank. And the tank. Gas gets boiled and it basically past rises the war kills all bacteria in there and that's when you add your hops. that's where you add different specialty stuff like more sugar if you need it people add like. Cocoa, knobs. Different. In their additional flavors. Exactly. After that, you go to a whirlpool. So what happens is they spin that. At, this point war you spend that war really fast all the particulates and in and. Buy Products in that war, go to the outside of it. And in the middle of just clean. Clean Warp. Guys like basically using civil for a force in order to clean in order filter, it were were versus what would they do if they don't have the Whirlpool A lot of times. So this is like cores anheuser busch and stuff like that. Yeah. They'll strain it through a filter. On. Your. Myself. Yeah I. Got You. But the thing is that with a whirlpool, you're maintaining a lot of the color within it. If you put it through a filter, intellectually take all that stuff. Oh well, I guess is is basically like. You're pulling the bad stuff on also the good stuff out. So once you go through the whirlpool, then you go to a fermentation tank you had your Yeast Romance, you go to a bright tank. The Bright Tang basically allows you to clarify the beer and then he pointed into a keg slash can so. Here's the go. Brougham was the first place showed us a whirlpool. Awesome place that they also have a new pickup system now so they'll like they actually have like. It was one of those table folding tables outside they sanitizer table bring out go in you pick up the beer, they sanitize the beer or the table again won't you're gone. Awesome Interesting. Whenever I think whirlpools only take about as a fucking hot tub. Possible we have does the only world that's only ropel I know. Byun there though. Of A. Damn. Whole birthing. Interesting. And it's not about, like should do not a bad idea to try something new. As long as it doesn't break the bank because definitely gotta make sure you're. Cautious. About to just in case, there's stuff doesn't and anytime soon. Bad at is like a talking to companies and seeing the being being like a like a program manager right in. Need. So like I don't know how companies. WOULD BE I I don't know like if our sit there and be like these are the numbers I know you definitely need to do this I can do it. But just to be like, Hey, you know. Does a cold calling you. You know you need our services or something like that like I don't know if I can do. So, that's the stuff I mean, it's a skill in itself. Learning kind of people and it's you know once you learn the industrial of a better, it's easier to do that kind of thing because then you have more leverage about being like, Hey, I'm not just some Joe Schmoe talking out of my ass actually know a little bit but. I mean everyone also gets that especially as a small company. Yeah. Start somewhere and. She did you just go out there eventually through some? Throw. Some numbers around solds eventually GonNa give you the shot. Whether you're better customer service or have just better product whatever it is. A lot of times that that's that's also in companies don't make money in the first couple of years because you gotta give up a number of concessions to actually get into a marketplace or to maybe get your first customer. Unless. Prove. Where your product stands. Sometimes you gotta give up a little bit more than you want to. On there with you do but just just for the fact of work for myself, I don't need a boss. Yeah I want to work for myself and with other people not for other people. You'll what. So if you were to be your own boss, what would your business be? So. So that's kind of my. That's why I'm not my own boss yet because I don't have that answer, I have my mind open to. Seeing what's going on in the marketplace and in the world and with the experiences that I have where I could add value? Because to me at the end of day, the businesses matter has to be something that I'm passionate about that. It doesn't matter what time of day it is that I wanna to do that where. You know. It's it's where I'd give up everything else just to be able to just be able to do that. So it has to be something I'm super passionate in ideally right now it's ever made because that's what I do on my weekends. It's what I do with my time off. That's why when I almost had a job with PF l., I was willing to take a fifty. A fifty percent pay-cut willing to start over on a brand new career because should you know who knows you might never like job but you'll never know until you try in that's like I said that's something I do on the weekends. So why not make it something I do every day of my life. So five to say give you an answer right now it'd be something in May but. I am also that's kind of that's what I liked about this time being at home is that. I am. Playing around with a bunch of different things I'm trying new. Hobbies I'm just I'm just digging around. Like seeing what else is out there in terms of when I like. Trying to read different books just. Trying to do different things to really of pinpoint what I WANNA do 'cause that's kind of where I am in my life in general where I am trying to figure out what I want to spend my time doing because I know I don't WanNa be my job I know I don't want to be in my industry. So even if I'm not working for myself yet at least what do I want to do next that is going to be something I'm happy about doing that I wanNA do. I think most businesses just get to the point where like it's no longer pursue a passion becomes just a money making thing. House like coming up with his business plan the canning. tickle my fancy is just going to make money. and. That's why like connected to it needs to be something that I really care about like making beer. And make him beer. But like there are so many things about making beer that interests me like where you get the water from were all the waste go how'd you just minimize your footprint and all stuff like the one that really got us into into Beers and craft beers was in Washington state. Now. Is called dog days, but originally, it was called Bobby hops. And they they're a local business augmentation. So they're like, Hey, if you go to this Burrito company that's right by our our brewery and you get a burrito bring receipt in and we'll give you like how much money off your first beer. So, it's like I love that it was like local companies, local businesses supporting the local businesses. Yes. It of just instead of just saying Hashtag support local businesses like literally we put our money where our mouth is we make everybody better were a team player. I WANNA be like bought into. Community that's part of the whole. Business plan is hard as part of the whole marketing plan. Right? Just how. How do you get started? Because sometimes I think that's a great idea that's a way to get your name out there where you don't have to use half the marketing is done for you. Because some other popular restaurant? You're also kind of giving them free marketing where you're like, hey, why don't you come to Joe Schmos Burrito? And while you're there gravitate beer that we just prude last week right so Yeah. It's absolutely company helping company small business helping small business but those kind of things that we put into place to tie densify right you start there have one company like that and you'd never know maybe that just becomes a huge joint operation between the two or it might just be a starting place because five years from now maybe you'll need ten times more. Space the rent where you're paying is too high. You're going to have to move and you won't be able to have that same relationship. You'd be able to keep some relationship with the ship beer back and forth or saint customers back and forth, but you know there. So many other factors that come into play to determine if it is a true long term possibility. But it's definitely a great way to. Get started. To mitigate a ton of costs and. Like. You said small businesses helping small businesses to people get the benefit for one thing. I mean, now's the time to do it. I feel, I? Feel. Yeah. Not You know now's the time to. Take the work and the thought of it to the next level of getting a little bit closer to making it happen where. You know you just thinking about where we actually to do this canning. Do I have got a how much does the truck going to cost me to buy how much the Kanye machine cost me to buy it? How much are the cans? I mean I know you've done a lot of this, but it's more about getting to that final number and looking at the number more seriously rather than kind of just. Talking about it. You know what I mean. Yeah. I mean definitely got to revisit numbers because I feel like the. The demand is different now. Yet, landscape is everything's different. Honestly, it doesn't hurt to even like coal iron, heart and. Whether you ask them about canning or you just ask them about their business in general. You don't necessarily need to say that you are going to be a competitor or trying to get into that space also, but kind of just talking to them about that even if you're just somebody who's brewing beer on your own. You looking to eventually get. Can you just WanNa get some ideas about the whole process about what they do on their operations to? Just get some inside knowledge really. I. Mean I. Am I didn't come in a little business plan for a brewery. So it's like. Hey. I'm thinking about you know if I need to get my stuff can to you know what can you what can you on it and that's exactly right because that is at the end of the day that's the angle. I N goes to get him hurry and you're taking one of the first steps to be able to get into the market. To get your feet wet, really be able to. Fully understand, that entire business. I wonder why I wonder what other businesses are are hit the hardest right now other than lake. Retail it. Yeah because I mean retailers different definitely hard because. People going shopping anymore everything's online. So if he didn't have an online store, then you've done, do you consider food beverage? The restaurant hospitality industry definitely is probably hit the hardest. Even above retail, right? Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. Because nobody traveling nobody's fucking staying. Jason for is a perfect example fucking marriages furloughed all their employees because they can't funneled right now. Yeah he's furloughed. Yes. So they're paying for his benefits, but that's it. So? Yeah because so that I'm sure restaurants are really I know restaurants heard it because that's why they. They're literally working but doing. Because they need to. And restaurants is also Tokyo. It's always. To. One thing I really want to come out of this is how restaurants are viewing their takeout like the way they packages are things. There's a lot of waste in their. Like when you're a chef, you don't go. Okay. How's this GonNa look in a styrofoam box. Right, I wonder if. Someone's going around going actually I need to separate these things because of his sitting US Arrow from box for this long mixes it doesn't taste that. Good. I. Think There's going to be a whole different kind of culinary skill comes out of. This. Airline pretty much like the airline shops. Airlines fucking airlines too so hard because. They've looked to cut costs as much as possible. while. Whereas it's our life and safety that are on the other aspect of that. So I. fucking hate the airlines because like the seats for example, you have no space to sit and that's only because they're trying to cram more seats in there which makes sense. But right at the end of the day what if your flights half empty? You're still going to have people sitting in the Shitty ass cramped seats. Then people are Dixon about moving people around bumping up to First Class WHEN CAESAR EMPTY The whole airline and she hits me different. It's fucked up the airline industry is that. In coach you have the smallest or least amount of legroom right now. But in those like Baltra, luxury packages, they have d largest areas now to. Buy a room. But in coach, you can get half a seat. It's literally where. You are treated as. A lesser purse. Having the segregation between the different. Products but. fucking. Today's just cost. Benefit analysis where they're looking at if we can add this many more seats into economy and the planes full, how much is that better for my bottom line? And adding them and making the seats closer together. They don't give a fuck. today people are GonNa. Get somewhere. They're going to get somewhere in as long as they're paying the cheapest possible they're going to do it. What else got a rowing esteem? Who what else have I got? Should do. I had I. had a busy week. Good Week. Yeah Yeah, would I do I do I did a lot shit last week While I finish my taxes last week in, which is dope. Rutgers has this. at the Rutgers Garden, they have like a little trail. So I went on a mini hike on my own of the Rutgers Garden last week. I started taking a intro to marketing class online which has been interesting. And I'm learning a fuck ton. Do. I made some Caccio Pepe. CACCIO pepper. Dude I told myself how of the other day You learn how to. Talk. Myself I was like fuck dude I heard I heard Also Song that fucking you gotTa cha-cha slide. So I was like, wait a minute. What is the Chow Really? So literally just youtube did. Put a mirror by by in my kitchen. where I could see my feet and it's right next to my computer. So I can just get up work. Coach I'll. Start my day off Chani in the morning by nighttime. Nicer fluent. TIKTOK. that. was that. I can talk that. I what about that? Take Talk TIC TAC no I don't Tiktok. Ship. Maybe. I should be take talking. Here's all up. So that's what they were social media. And kind of the same thing with this. It's You to be successful yet to you putting consistent content. So. If I'm talking I can't just do it with one fucking thing. Right I. GotTa, make sure that I am. Thinking about different things I can talk through the day I mean with tick, Tock you could fuck and do. Anything but You know that's something I want to do whereas judge just going right into the same thing of this. This whole thing where you know it's all about having consistent content. Otherwise, you're going to lose viewers, you'll lose people's interests. Like nowadays, every Thursday at midnight I know King of this thing is going to release an episode. So I don't want Fridays that's what I'm going to have a new podcast and I'm GonNa love listening to. Miss a week and I didn't know about it. I'm like damn what the fuck. Is going to happen often this could something that. Is Just GonNa readily happened that I can't depend on. So. Consistent content that huge. Especially in today's world of Kaz contents king right now baby. Content is winning everything view to all the services Disney ESPN. Netflix obviously killing it ship heard hub is killing it there. Season Three. Of ozarks out your your house have you started yet known as we just saw that it was out. Oh, you saw one and two though. Oh? Yeah Oh. Yeah. Oh Dude I'm on. Favorite show with my favorite person Jason Bateman Jason Bateman yeah, I like to I. Like a lot too and dude it's very. Like almost halfway through the season. Shit Okay Yeah I was just it started out Friday I stopped watching my other shows. They just went straight to shit dude. To to to I, remember it being a good show and like, are they going to check it out? Yeah We'll probably get that right after this. So. Type tagging Oh. Yeah. I watch it. So I liked documentaries like that where I don't have to pay attention completely because like while I'm working all have it on in the background while I'm cooking I'll have on the background while working out I'll have it on in the background. So I flew I flew that through that really quickly because I just be doing a bunch of Shit and they'd be on in the background. I actually started that last Sunday after I finish my taxes, I just laid around and watched it for a couple hours. And then Monday while as working and working out that actually finished I. Think. Yes. Were you able to put in any of those deductions for education credits? For. What. The education credits. So I didn't -education last year so I couldn't. Even at this year. But through when? TURBOTAX line says my numbers are basically. And I did not see a place where I could put education so. It was a little weird I was looking for it. I might have to click a couple of extra things that I do this year. but. You know yeah, obviously for next year I'll be much more on top of it since I am definitely going to be claiming some of those credits. where I am doing him. On like the download, the downloaded version of tax, right? Not the actual on line one. Yes I mean we. So. If you buy the disc. Yeah. Yeah. Now to have like three or four different users. So we bought one for our entire family like my mom buys. We just download it for from there. And use the product. But. But yeah, we use turbo tax pro I believe. From Cosco Yeah we'll see that that's probably what I'm GonNa do it's where either that or I was even thinking I might go to an encounter just to see how they do things and kind of start bouncing ideas off of them because I'm sure they have. So fucking loopholes that they use that. Are Pretty common that I probably never thought of. So, I was just thinking about it this year that maybe I'll go to somebody just kinda talked him just thinking consultation consultation but. Otherwise it's the same thing like my taxes aren't anywhere aren't complicated at all. So using like the free turbo tax relief that big of a deal but obviously, I WANNA make sure I'm maximizing everything. Just to go back for content on social media platforms, I, want on the mini rant right now slow tangent. WHY WOULD I want to go on like a mini rant right now. So I hate people who are talking to just like a room full of people who look at the social media, but it's as if they're. Talking to the world. In West. Syrian when when people are like? Hey everybody. I just want to tell you that you should be you know Ian Healthy doing this and you know. It's never as. Your posting something and saying this is for my friends. Is a personal thing. I really care about this everything's really sanitized yup and then they like. Say like, Hey, everybody like if you start off an instagram post with hey, everybody. fucking shut off unless you're goddamn celebrity, right? Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. And how close allies celebrity versus the non celebrity if I click follow and then I had to wait for my follow request to be approved Baku. Dude See. Dude. So. You're missing out on some stuff because there are some funny fucking accounts on Instagram. For example, they're just names that you have to request a follow but like it's worth, it 'cause we'll save him. Let's accepted. So liberal fucking hilarious. Okay. So I am I mean I'm new to the game. I'll. I'll I'll send you all I'll diem you some of the some funny memes that I see because you have to request the follow them but. Now. They're fucking hilarious. Side of what I was upset about. I. I know I got you. Oh, how subset of still about the other thing you know what? Though? Those people not all will, but usually, so they're pandering to their audience right? They're trying to make it seem like they're actually talking to you whereas you're Joe Schmo in fucking Louisiana and John Jones is recording or not John Jones back example but. Planck atoms or fighter to fuck. Zeus Australia. I don't fucking know someone New York supporting and and you're in Louisiana and they go. Hey, all it gives that person in Louisiana. Bit of sense of Oh maybe they're actually talking to me even though that is a bunch of bullshit. For sure. I mean I think you should have a separate account if you're if you're talking to a bunch of people but but that that's a little bit of embarking marketing tactic too where where you know your audience is XYZ right? If I'm only addressing XYZ. ABC's not necessarily GONNA WANNA. Listen because they're like, oh, they're not really talking to me. Unless the content is that applicable or still that relevant where? You're talking. To a certain group even though it affects everybody it's it's it's tough to do right because. You know I don't WanNA listen. I don't want to listen to someone who says Hey Phil and each oh Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah I'm like all right. Then why am I watching this if this is directed towards Phil? But if they were like, Hey. Everybody in. Right that gives me more incentive to want to stick around and see what they're saying. Oh. Okay. So here's what. Here's the issue that I'm having. Is that if you have like a personal account and literally just like you and your friends, right. You only have like fifty followers. Okay. That's stupid then. Why your is it worth it say, hey, everybody know that's like how many like if I'm at a party at my house I don't think I've ever used the word. Hey, everybody. Yeah WH- except once like, hey, everybody, the food is ready. Rest. Crowds like like the Mo more personal in that like I I don't know I I'm on social media not to not to be social I I want to socialize my friends. Like this this podcast is like. To help talk. To mean you talking, but it's to help people who aren't in the room was in still be a part of our lives, but it's not just the help like a stranger be a part of our lives like if they get something from this. Cool. But I'm not trying to be like everybody Oh this is this is that the issue be listening to yet? No No, I'm not valid either. I agree right. But let's take long-term. Right were doing this for a purpose to be able to give. Information to people around. US. And but we don't necessarily need to be specifically addressing. Those people it doesn't need to be a saying, Hey, we're doing this her friends. The actual action intent and how we put it out, it's going to be directed to them. But? You know whether they're part of the topics that we talked about it or not I. Don't think that matters because that's our lives that we are going through. But yeah, eventually. For something to grow, it's gotta be able to expand and hit the masses whether we're looking to target just a specific region or I think in part in whole podcast world it's really more globally and you're talking about demographics about whether it's age nationality or. Interest wise people who are similar. In that kind of segmentation. So yeah, it's it's definitely being done for stuff being started for a specific reason but I think overall it has a much bigger idea. It's just the same fact of. We have some a entertainment. And be they'll be some helpful information that can be apple applicable to. Fred who's one of our close friends down Maryland or could be applicable to fucking Donald Trump for who all the fuck knows. You know what I mean. It's just the fact that it can be outreaching to everyone even though we're really doing this with a more narrow purpose to start with. Yeah I mean I don't mind like having the description be like more broad the e you're GonNa know that this content is like personalized. It's at least it's very specific. Thing is it's not like what we're not trying to exclude anybody. Anybody can listen get something from this, but I'm not going to say like everybody should listen to get from this. I'm just saying what we talk about. There's value for me and you definitely and there might be evaluated for someone else maybe but it shouldn't be like Yo everybody. This is for. For me for me it is for you. We'll start there for us to have fun do. So the different diesel something that we think could work, and then when you take it to the next step that it's for the people closest to me. People who my friends maybe even some family who might WANNA listening. And then after I get that demographic and maybe they're happy with it or if they give us some good feedback to kind of make it even better you know at that point, that's when I start looking at it as more of a larger business. I'm a business mining guy. So He's not that I'm trying to look for the bottom line or China make a buck, but if it's something that is. That is. Has Possibility to be profitable. There's no reason you should take that opportunity. So whether it is even if this is directed to one small group of people. I know what you mean by not. So interesting. Hey, everyone and it's not like I said, it's not even addressing specific people, but it's just kind of back and forth. Information that some people might not think about it. That kind of is for everybody, but it's more about on that side of whether they are into. That everybody is part of our. I would say it's it's everybody in one specific demographic. Whether that is eighteen to thirty five miles is FEMA fans. It is young adults. Who are trying to figure out life in? Get to being a quote unquote real adult kind of you know what I mean it's I think it is for everybody but just a small much small smaller targeted everybody. Will get more from. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. It's just not generic fucking every single person that I follow on instagram or every single person that. Is Out there. It's definitely more targeted to be beneficial for more be. When I listened to gre and they're talking about Tessema replacement therapy. Like All right. Well, I can just zone out for the section Yup good to know. Especially, like you know as a as an anime fan but personally, I'm like, all right on, you know no need someone. That's perfect example because I love Joe Rogan Experience I. Love Joe Rogan's podcast but. I am very selective in the ones I listened to where it has to be somebody that I know or some- somebody or a topic that I'm interested in if it isn't. I'm not tune in. So, like I don't I, don't listen to every Joe Rogan podcast like I do listen every fighter in the kid podcast. Gotcha I gotTA listen to the finding of the kid I listen to every single Jerry July I always like find. Something that I can take away from each one some sometimes not is applicable or sometimes they're not as valuable to me but the person that comes onto Jurong experiences varied enough that I get my variety from this and I think I think he also is able to stimulate the conversation with anybody and there's so many different topics that you can learn a fucking ton of different things from which makes it cool. Yeah. Finding the kid is really just those two guys bullshitting who are like best friends and Yeah. Who just have a couple of segments that they go through that? Just have become interesting and fun for most of the people around. Yeah. Oh. Get about a name for the segment. So we have should I can't man I wish. And then I'll singing about. For that segment that we talk about like issues within the group. Chile total one. Issues, within the group. Inter group politics like like a issue that we have with some owners someone is having incentive like our friend group. I think we should call it like an elephant in the room. And we just talk about it. Okay and then that way we don't like repeat. To different segments in the group, everybody can just be like okay. Well, that's Kinda like. They're coming from and then give them an opportunity to respond. Talk about that elephant in the room. Interesting. Interesting how do you think people would feel about having that kind of stuff out there. Just, like the what we talked about the first time. I think that before we put it out or even discuss it and record it, we should. Be affected group yeah. Typically. It's not like is not more than a few people. Yeah. You know. I. Got You. I, agree completely. I agree and it's not like we need to use real names or anything. We don't need to do anything like that. A real name these bitches. I'll real name. Well, the thing is we'll talk to him before we even talk about the issue now you. Know but but but again, right that goes to looking at long-term right we can't have somebody out in the public. I. Don't think it's fair to any of us to hassle the out in the public of our personalized of all of our friends personalized for me. It's different because we're putting ourselves out there complete. But for other people I, think it's fair to talk about them. I. Think it's fair to talk about them with the we use names or not. I. Think it's led the I think it's much more fair to talk about them without using dates. I I mean yeah. No, I'm okay with that. We could just ask we should be like. How comfortable you are you? With this topic having your name associated with your. Yeah. Absolutely. We could definitely do that. We could definitely do that. Sometimes you know maybe during those podcast, I can give myself in alias. We all have aliases dude look. I don't want. I don't want our. You know the people who come on here. To have aliases and not have one. Not. So so coming on here. That's kind of where I have accepted that. You know. There's there's GonNa be no secrets. Is I'm I'm an open. I mean I'm generally pretty much an open book but even now and there's definitely some things that I keep close to the. Close to my heart close to myself in general but you know this whole thing is. Kind of. It's important to be. And realistic about things I also think that that helps. This form of content be more successful if you are open and honest about things good and bad in your life because you know as soon as you start. Lying or not talking about things and it's like, all right. What's this guy hiding? Is he just another actor another somebody who's just trying to bullshit their way through. Yeah, I couldn't do that for more than like an hour. Yeah I'd be done. It'd be exhausting. Ex exactly I mean that's lying in general it's fucking exhausting. Totally agree. We play for the rest of the day. So we had breakfast I think we're just GONNA snap for the rest of the day I may like a chicken Potpie role bill saw that the turn out. It was good. It was salty. miscalculated. So. The rest. Is Super Easy to make right like I counted as not cooking all because it take croissant roles you roll them out and then you. They come and triangles missiles like roll up. Then they become croissants but. Yes. He make like a like a son Patrick Star. I think there's like six or eight of them in there seeming like a star and then for the filling, you have canned cream of chicken canned created mushroom. we used. Chopped up rotisserie chicken leftovers. Okay. Costco nicely they'll bell pull like with those rotisserie chickens that you can provide bucks. Yeah. Selling they pull them eat off. The skin off and then you can buy as a frozen package. I don't know they do the work for Ya. So we bought that we chop it up and we used frozen veggies. Okay. A little salt I shouldn't have because every single one of those things already salty. So I Got You. And then I rolled the crescent rolls over. And did a little egg wash and put it in the oven for twenty five minutes. Nice and delicious. Knows it. So you got that all right I got you. I got you. Yeah So we're supposed to be. A little bit of those are. What are you? What are you playing? ate breakfast also So, this marketing class I've been taking it slowly A. how it works is it's all self. Not, self taught, but it's all on your own time right issue. They just have a couple of weeks. Yes self paced area. That's that's what I was looking for. Only really has his. Quizzes that you have to take by a certain date and time. So. I've just I've just been flying through I'm probably going to do another hour hour and a half a work on it today. The one of my family. Oh form. Yes. Yes. So it's a they have the lecture is recorded. So you watch those and then like I am. Three quarters of the way done with week one, and then I have to take a quiz. That's do I think next Saturday or Sunday. So I'm GonNa just try to get older done today so I can just jump on a week to tomorrow. So be an entire semester's worth of work I. IT depends on what it depends on classes you take some of them are like some of them are for eight or twelve weeks. This one is a five quote unquote five e-class oats. It's definitely condensed Gotcha, but it's flying through in a week. I'm no no, no no. I'm flying through one week in like three or four days. So this five weeks I'll probably take two to three weeks a Finnish. Okay. So I'm doing that One of my friends His birthday is always right at this time annually and heals a big birthday party but obviously, you can't. So he's kind of like a he is doing zoom meeting with an invited a couple hundred people so. Hundred Twenty. One. People. Somebody joined that see what goes on with that kind of thing see how everyone is on there and then? From there, stick around makes music. Play watch them ozarks. Chill enjoy myself get a workout in I gotta do that sometime. Yeah. Nice. Are. Special thanks you're young for our. Theme Song. Check him out on Youtube on channel. Your. Wall. Music.

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UFC Fight Night 143 Cejudo vs. Dillashaw Preview & Picks with Christian Pina

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UFC Fight Night 143 Cejudo vs. Dillashaw Preview & Picks with Christian Pina

"Our next segment here on this Friday edition of the book radio. We'll talk some UFC with Christian Pena from the sports gambling podcasts. Christian also wrote a very extensive UFC fight one forty three preview for us over at bang, the book dot com. So I definitely encourage you to check that out but good to get him on the show here. Very insightful guest. Very smart. Good analysis in the UFC's. Hopefully, you enjoy this one. The sound quality is different. It is better. We had to record on Skype for this one. And I will be seeing in the future. We can do some more of these types segments with our guests that do have that capability, but in any event here is this. You have see fight night one forty three segment with Christian. Pena of the sports gambling podcast art, I'm joined now by Christian Pena from the sports gambling podcast where to chat about UFC fight one forty three in Brooklyn, New York Christian. How's it going today? Man, good, man. It is finally letting up with the rain in what is usually sunny Las Vegas out here. So the weather's finally living leveling off, man. In Vegas is in full swing especially NFO playoffs are foot in more importantly for this this programming. We have UFC's I ESPN televised event in to look back. It kind of where the sport has been. You know, I it was a legal in New York. They couldn't be at Madison Square Garden just a few. I mean, essentially, a number of months ago at this point to getting, you know, mainstream coverage on ESPN, is is pretty awesome to see how the sport is grown in what they're up to kind of bring in the next generation of fans that will be tuning in on ESPN for the first time. Arthur, honestly, I saw a little bit different here. We're recording this over Skype as opposed to using blog talk radio in their switchboard. And all that. So you know, if you're wondering why this sounds different. And quite frankly, why this sounds better. That's the reason why. But no Christian you mentioned it here UFC transitioning from FOX over to ESPN now, and you'll even know this is a fight night guard, and even though, you know, the next pay per view card. You have to thirty three. It was cancelled still a very good foot forward for. ESPN with this fight night broadcast. It's a very good guard. Yeah. And again, you're talking about you different sets, a fancier right in the diehards are are going to go wherever the product is whether that be fight pass with pay per view, FOX. But you're going to be looking to of pull in somebody. Who's watching a college hoops game prior to and they see you see in their TV guide for the first time or whatever. And so from from that perspective, you know, UFC has always been very famous for kind of how they staggered their events. Once a once a year in the summer, there's a marquee event, you know, arced St. bay and in Ghana where the DC Jones fight it's Vegas event. It's in the summer. So traditionally when the UFC doesn't have. The football competition all type of stuff is when they usually go full full foot forward. But in this case with the first event of the new year starting out on ESPN. They really did a great job kind of telling the story of how you have see come about through this card, which I think was maybe, you know, maybe that's the nerd in me, but you know, changes and new beginnings in showcases some fresh new fighters while, you know, I don't say paying homage, but you know, giving guys that maybe a casual UFC fan will know like Donald ceremony in the mix as well. So there's really something for everyone within these this group of five cards, and we'll talk about that a little bit. As we go forward here. And you do have a preview for this fight card over it bang, book dot com. I certainly encourage everyone to go and check that out, but this championship made event here Henry pseudo taking on T J dillashaw. And this is one of those rare instances where the champion in this division is a pretty clear cut underdog. Yeah. And again, this one is is very unique wanna. When I talk about politics and kind of how this fight came about the thing with with T J dillashaw in this fight dillashaw really warrant to cement his legacy. He wanted to be a class champion follow in the footsteps of Daniel Cormie of Karna McGregor. Most recently, of course, Amanda denudes. So this was always something he wanted. The problem is the UFC is disbanding are getting rid of their flyweight division. I'm enter their champion, Henry pseudo. They kind of did all this without really notifying him his his camp if you will. And so we were left with this in whether this was going to happen at one thirty five so who would just drop the bell? They'd find at one thirty five in you'd have your definite winner there. So there was a bunch of different avenues where you know, at what way class this could take place up, but you're getting it at one twenty five in you're getting I mean, when you talk about TJ dillashaw really a chance to make that case review. But one of the most underrated fighters in this generation of fighters this up and coming fighters in its. You know, the thing about dillashaw is he so exciting to watch four casual fans, which is really why think they, you know, they're pretty happy that things broke this way that they got this event to showcase him. Very exciting. Throws things that you know, you don't see coming that the nocco power. And when we look at this, you know, from around perspective rob being set at four and a half instead of a two and a half, even three and a half Jews towards the over. Obviously the line we kind of tell you that they're expecting a decision. But when you break down what dillashaw and even so who knows been able to do dillashaw has ended exactly half of his UFC fights via either nocco in a twenty percent via submission seventy percent Finnish rate on the other side who does one forty two percent of his fights via knockout none by submission. So when you look at this. I mean, simple math will tell you the two and a half minute. Mark of the fourth round puts you at twenty to thirty. You look at their average fight time inside the octagon dillashaw clocking in at twelve. Twenty six pseudo comes in at thirteen forty two. So I think an Under Armour signing under an exciting finish, which I think what you have see in an ideal world would have. In their first main event on this new ESPN deal. I think is much more likely than the odds may be tell the story of here and against the Hutu off, you know, the biggest win of of anyone's career against possibly the grace of all time to meet your Johnson couldn't have asked for a better main event for for a free fight night card, of course, in a champion rice. Champion matchup now is a general rule about UFC. And I mean, I've written the previews of bang the book dot com, and I've tried to, you know, look for a little context clues. And we'll talk about some of the ones that I've used in the past a little bit later on the show, but know for dillashaw here with the change in weight class. I mean is it easier to go down than it is to go up. Is there any sort of, you know, angle regarding dillashaw going to flyweight here. Yeah. It's definitely easier to go up without question. Now, there's you know, there's pros and cons to both look when you go up away class you'd have to make sure that you're putting on quote, unquote, good weight rather than just eating cake for, you know, five six meals a day. There's a very, you know, there's m major enlisted suffer joke. There's a good. Good. You know, call it one fifty five and there's a bad one fifty five or they're moving up to whatever the case may be so that certainly presents its own challenges. But when you're talking about moving down away class, you're talking about literally dehydrating your body to the point of exhaustion, in some cases, passing out and even death. I mean, the viral video of cyborg trying to make that weight, I think is still fresh in some of the tractors of mixed martial arts minded, and that's very real obstacle. That these guys are in women are putting themselves through. So it's definitely easier to go up to make sure you're doing it. The right time much more physically draining any mentally draining to go down or those segment the heavyweight fight here. Greg hardy, I mean by now everybody knows the background. And of course, the fact that he's on this card with Rachel ostrich. I mean, that's something that's gotten a lot of running and deservedly. So is this just a gimmick to have Greg hardy on this card or I mean is there something to his future? Yeah. I mean, so again for anyone that doesn't know speaking to the racial institutional will break. That down in the page vans in portion, but effectively she was hospitalized from a domestic abuse from her husband back in November. So if you're wondering what the insensitive is obviously Greg hardy his own domestic abuse issues here. And look he said that is this a publicity stunt is this whatever. Well, look at the end of the day. This is. I wanna say what had to be done. But this is a way to attract fans, whether you hate him or you love, I'm sure there's going to be the vocal minority that are going to call for the boycott in. You don't I want to really stick to you know, inside the octagon version of Greg hardy when you look at this, look he has grasped this sport quicker than anyone maybe in a long time in another fighter comes to mind, and Eric Anders who was obviously on the national championship winning Alabama team. But again got too much too soon illegal mature to kinda gave his first loss and things haven't been the same for him. But when you look at what Greg hardy he's been able to accomplish on the ultimate fighter. Now, the ultimate fighter is not the US octagon against you have see rostered fighters. So please don't make that mistake, but he has been flat out dominant. He has been knocking out everyone. I in his grasp look, here's the deal though, with this fight in this lied being as big as it is titled touching minus six hundred and some places the US's clearly pushing him in rushing him for the spot because of who he is in and they wanna show. Oh case not only who he is. But what he is capable of in. This is a nocco artists may make no mistake. Here's the problem in his UFC career. He has less than three minutes inside a UFC octagon in his career. So no one really knows. What could happen if you know, Alan Crowder is able to weather that storm in at least taken into the second round at this point and go from there, and so sometimes within the UFC in UFC handicap, and you have to make bets with a long-term perspective in you, don't, you know, it's you certainly don't want to be laying this type of number with such an unproven fighter. And again, not that I'm ever going to compare Stephen Roach is to Alan Crowder. But we saw what happens with fighter nocco artists. Like a Francis. In Ghana when they weren't able to hit that shot in gas themselves out. Now Crowder is certainly not the wrestler that Steve coaches. I don't think anyone is. Nobody's saying that. It's just use that illustrates the point of when a fighter isn't able to execute. Their game plan, especially in the heavyweight division throwing especially heavy enough. This one is but every it's just the more. You aren't able to kind of, you know, hit that shot that minus six hundred that could get very very hairy very very quickly. No massing to go put a bit on Crowder. It's just I would you know, if forced to given the line, I would because who's to say that Crowder can't use what little experience he has to at least get hardy into a little deeper waters gas out in at least, you don't knows what a UFC octagon feels like while hardy does not yet aren't. So let's look at the rest of the main card here, and this is on ESPN plus for those that are interested in checking out this fight card on Saturday night. Any of these other flights on the main card stand out as a good betting opportunity in your mind? Yeah. So when we when we break down this look Gregor Glaspie, probably the best fighter in the US that nobody knows about lying. A little out of reach at minus five fifty. Let's talk about the awesome ish page, vans and fight. Look, the, you know, there's no doubt if you're betting on Greg hardy your bidding at the top of the market off. Of dominant ultimate fighter performances with a fight like this page man's antibody dollar fifty in the marketplace right now, look at some point, you know, I almost feel bad for page fans. Adam and God, it's weird thing for me to say that about her right diehard fans are never going to give her any respect because of what she looks like she's absolutely gorgeous. She's beautiful and the girl can scrap look page in didn't have the opportunities to kind of cut her teeth on a regional scene because of what she looks like she was forced to kind of develop have the UFC hype machine behind her and be put into I mean, when you look at the quality of opponent that page bandannas fi-, it's a murderer as row look rose Nabi Yunus champion, Michelle Waterson. Bec Rawlings, Jessica rose. Clark yen, always losses. But she vans and broke her arm was hanging on by thread in the Jesse rose. Clark fight instill finished it. So you can't knock her too much. And at the end of the day. She's twenty four years old. So she just has in the narrative on someone like vans in has just fall. When it's just swung. So far the other direction, and when you look at a girl that Greece lost a bitch. Look, she's a one on one fighter in the USC. The it bears mentioning what she has gone through again in November. She was hospitalized after being beaten by her husband in stylistically. This is a really good up for a girl like vans in and if you're into kind of the, you know, the the narrative of what you have see wants to happen. It's page van Zandt they want her to have this victory. When the is one all is at ESPN are on her. She's definitely the most beautiful girl in the sport. And she scrappy in. So she could be a face of a fly weight division. It's a very good stylistically matchup for page van Zandt. She's far more in a way, the battle-tested fighter. She's never going to quit on you for your money in a lot of times in the USC. You can't ask for much more than somebody. That's win to go out there and die for your bet and certainly page prove that allows fight fighting with a broken arm so page vans ended a dollar fifty makes a lot of center a little bit of a discount line there for sure. Now, given the the level of competition that she's faced. I mean, do you have any thoughts of her finishing this one? Or is it, you know, with the line that's out there in the total two and a half very heavily juice to the over minus two twenty five over at the do you think she finishes this inside the distance or do you think at this probably goes to the cards? Yeah. There was a run in two thousand eighteen where women's fights were affected. Really? It was like forty five in seven was the crazy run towards the over two and a half look vans in has a little your hall in her game spinning back fist spinning back kicks. I mean, she can pull some things out. You know, God bless her. She has that finish from anywhere mentality. And again, I must sing that. She's the most talented in the world, she's just being tremendously overlooked and undervalued because of who she has fought, and she's obviously not on that upper echelon, but against the garlic recent loss of which twenty nine twenty decision very much the most likely about comes here. But again, she's thrown she has shown the propensity to be able to finish a fight. No matter if they're coasting if they're Jerry boxing. She got a little of your hall and or game, and that's a very good thing to have in in your arsenal. And this women's finally division before we transition over the pre limb card Joseph bene- Vitas, Dustin Ortiz Glover to share a call Rogerson anything either one of those fights that you want to mention here on the segment. I mean, honestly, look again five division being disbanded benefit as probably one of the greatest fights of all time. Dustin Ortiz savvy veteran in his on right? The look this fight happened to happen. Not too long ago back in twenty fifteen I believe and not not much has changed. That was a believer thirty twenty-seven Vitas decision. And when you look at you know, fights that have already happened and rematches are honestly, my favorite fight to handicap the second or third time around in the UFC because you can see you know, how they stylistically match up. You know, when you are when you handicapped, you have see look at, you know, fighter ex you'll you try to find an opponent that does is very similar to the current opponent. That's kind of how you start right? And so when you seen the exact fight play out, if nothing has changed whether it be age, whether it be injury, and again, you know, been some some injuries both their careers for sure, but not much has changed Vitas has the wrestling edgy as the grappling edge. She the more well rounded guy, especially in the judiciary department. Look he's as last legs. I don't know. I don't know really where these guys go from here. They're too good to be released. They can move to one thirty five they could go to Bella or they do have options this benefit. I mean, look the the line is very fair to at minus two and a quarter here over under three and a half or three oh five I think Ben Evita's by decision. Prop makes them says to reduce some of that juice at just this one's pretty simple to me we've seen how it played out. Neither fighter has really changed. So as pretty cut and dry and on the other one, look, if you're a global share a fan, which I know a lot of people are this lines. A little disrespectful really is that only minus a dollar and a quarter. The question is over to share a done. And when you have those questions, you're effectively wagering on a ticking time bomb, and that's not something. I really want to get involved in. Longterm book Roberson he's coming in on short notice moving up away class. I don't know if he's the fighter to kind of you don't stop to share in this spot on the lens, low disrespectful. Your I it's almost you know, the, quote unquote, fishy line of the night for short is this one in for those reasons that one's definitely pass to me. So let me ask you about this short notice, you know, obviously, it doesn't really help the fighter who's on short notice because they don't have a ton of time to prepare. But also, you know, if you're Glover to share you've been preparing for one guy now, you wind up getting a different guy may I guess for lack of a better term, a situational handicapping mindset. Yeah. And again, we see this again in the prelims of Corey San Hagen who's over minus five hundred favor against Mario Batista's supposed to fight Jon Winokur. I wrote about this. I linked in the preview. This is look we have seen this time and time again where a short notice replacement comes in and wins. It was on a very nice run in two thousand eighteen and here's the mindset I could liken it to maybe an NFL situational handicapping scheduling spot. Right. So it's your. Down spot. You've been preparing for a huge fight Santa Higgins fight with Lineker was a little bit different than the two sheriff fight because Lineker certainly the biggest test of Senate Hagen's career. But when you look at the share one, I it's very real. And again, I wrote about this. So I won't go too far into it here. But we've seen it time and time again when a short notice, let's say less than caliber opponent on steps into that fighter. You know, the original fighter takes them lightly, and you can never take anyone lightly. This is mixed martial arts with four ounce gloves. Anything could happen. So very real situation. Handicap has to go into that for sure. Art. So I'll call this the main event of the preliminary card this is on ESPN. So you don't have to subscribe for this. It's just right on ESPN, Donald Sironi and Alexander Hernandez. And you know, if you've been watching Surani odds, and like I said, I've been writing these previews Surani just seems like after each event he just becomes a bigger underdog. And it's pretty clear that he's in the twilight of his career, I would say, and I think we see that a little bit here with the line for this fight whereas opponent Hernandez in the minus two dollar ranch. Yeah. Look, this is UFC we've this and they're very well. This is new beginnings. This is the old guard in the new guard here look at this point of ceremonies career. It's almost a disservice to call him a gatekeeper. But I think if you had called, you know, if you call that to his face he would love that. This is the way that some people play golf Saronic fights in a cage. This is his happy place, quote, unquote. And on the other side you look at Alexander Hernandez. I mean, a white hot prospect kind of caught the world. By storm in his debut match against venue Darrow. She's over three to one favorite and more importantly in my eyes followed that up with a great decision win against been mercy. So he not only shocked the world and showed that he was here. But he maintained that which to me is more important and definitely as important as that initial nocco victory where things can happen inside a cage. Look, the the unique thing about this fight is Sironi is dropping back down a week class year, which she fought it for years and years and years, but if you remember there was a very real possibility. It looked at this way class when fifty five that he was going to retire. He lost a bunch of fights. And he just did not look like he could continue. He moved up away class in. He reinvented himself. I believe he won three or four straight fights in maintained that, you know, what the UFC's most active fighter of all time most fights. And again, the most wins. So you can never ever countdown Surani out here. This kid is for real though. And I've been a fan of Alexander Hernandez for a very. Longtime in truth had a little piece of Emma in his debut at three one over Bonilla dares. Just because if you've watched his regional tape he was dominating guys. And I just thought that again that was I believe a short notice replacement as well that you know, felt that he was being overlooked in that spot the line was just a little too big. He has tremendous finishing power. He's Chris he's clean. He's fluid. He's everything that you want the next face of this division to be. And so, you know, it's not a winning prospect to bet against on Surani a lot that being said, I think this is a situation where it's definitely the favourite or Paseo in to do more. I think that the over one and a half at minus one forty five makes a ton of sense here. I think that's thrown hasta respect that nocco power while Hernandez going to respect the crafty veteran that Sironi isn't he this one's going to be at distance. And I think this will probably ends up on the scorecards if not a late, you know, third round finish body kept body kick type of situation from Hernandez here. But this to me is something of a changing of the guard. What the UFC wants to have happen here. Isn't it? Citing Alexander Hernandez victory where this could be the resume builder to start giving Alexander Hernandez top ten potentially done top five fights this. They they are very much behind Alexander Hernandez, the UFC hype machine tends to be well. And that's something that I kinda picked up on because I'm not, admittedly. I'm not a big UFC guy. I don't scout. It I don't study. It the way that you do and you've done a phenomenal job breaking down the card here on this segment. And also in that preview over a bang book dot com, but that's something that I've always looked for is. You know, these people are not stupid that book the matches. I mean, they know where they need to promote somebody where somebody needs to pick up a name win over somebody who's on the back side of his or her career. And we see these opportunities. It's just a matter of, you know, the price following suit. Absolutely. And again when you look at Sironi in his, you know, resume in what he's done. He only loses to the best of the best in everyone else. He takes care of me. And you talking about losing guys like Leon Edwards? Okay. Darren 'til mass. Paul Raphael dough Sanyo's Anthony Pettus. I mean, the the Ryan Bater fights obviously little controversial. But that's the definition of a gatekeeper. If your top five top seven, maybe top ten Sironi, usually he is the measuring stick in this division. And again, you talk about these showcase fights just because the prices may be paying a little bit of a premium for it. And again, not to say that this is a showcase fight by any stretch in the way that the Greg hardy fight is it's just a good stylistic matchup for a young up and comer that they can start to market and against Surani. Only lose ten times in a row. It doesn't matter. People are still gonna love him. He's still always going to have a home in the UFC because he's given so much the UFC and so much to the sport. He can withstand this loss be fine in everyone. It's a win win. All around cowboy gets paid Hernandez gets to build his resume and move on to bigger and better things. Well, and this also cycles back to the vans, and the fans aunt thing that you mentioned where you know, she's the most gorgeous face in the sport and transitioning over to ESPN, it makes a lot of sense to have her front and center and looking. Really good. So again, you can find some of these betting angles throughout the year here with the UFC cards. And of course, we'll expand on these similar with Christian as we go throughout twenty nine thousand nine but before lunch go man anything else on the pre limb card that kinda catches your attention. Yeah. In just one last thing on that. Again. That's not the end all be all look if the UFC was WWE, Ronda Rousey would never have lost Conor McGregor would never you know, Naganuma probably would have won. So that's just one part of it. But when we looked on the card here towards the prelims here. Nice little mid-size underdog here, and blah Muhammad someone that I've been a fan of for a very very long time here. Nice four fight winning streak. The really the opposite of Amir's coming our four fight losing streak going up against Jeffrey Neal Muhammed plus one thirty five here. This matchup to me is fascinating. And it's really a coin flip. I'm sorry. I want to sound like I'm that can convicted in the fact that my is gonna take this win. I just think the line value here for essentially what I feel is a coin flip fight to get you know, an extra forty cents. I think really makes a difference law. The term here whoever can really implement their game plan and fight accu- are the keys to success for for this fight here. Muhammed pushes he wants a very slow pace. He wants to slow down the pace he wants to thirty bucks. He's the ultimate point fighter for anyone. That's a fan of guys like Sergio pedestal beautiful, you know, benefit as beautiful point point fighting style. Muhammad is a version of that he has no finishing power all four of those wins. I have been by decision and on the opposite side, you have Geoffrey Neal who wants to push a fast paced make you make one mistake and come over the top with the big left off for the knockout. And so it's fascinating to me. See how you know which fighter it which fight Q is going to kind of rain supreme here. If it's Mohammed being able to thirty box this up against the cage slow the pace down or if it's Geoffrey Neal who gets charged forward on it make this a sloppy slugfest where he can lend that one big left into me, the price point at Neil might as one sixty five for a guy like that is just a little bit unwarranted a little bit disrespectful of the four fight win streak of blah Muhammed. So definitely worth the investment at plus the plus plus money on blah Muhammad, Christian Pino, who's working and find at gambling podcast and on Twitter at Christian pinup P. I N A really appreciate the time at thank you so much good to have you here as part of our bang book family, and we'll talk again real soon. Absolutely. Can't take you for the opportunity. We'll talk to. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. 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UFC Jacksonville Post-Show, The Undertaker's 10-Year-Old Secret

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UFC Jacksonville Post-Show, The Undertaker's 10-Year-Old Secret

"Area Hawaii's MMA show is presented by Delo brewed for those with a fighting spirit. Everyone it's area who wanNA welcome back to another edition of the program and as always we are presented by good friends over at Modell Modell O. S. speciale brewed for those with the fighting spirit. Now we've got a very special show for all of you Wednesday night late night styles when the freaks come out we did a post fight show on. Espn radio yes. Live from coast to Coast International. We took calls. It was great. We reacted to Wednesday. Night's event in In Jacksonville Florida. So we will play that for you in case you missed it in its entirety and then after that. I've got an exclusive interview with the undertaker. Marquel away himself ten years in the making I've been wanting to talk to this man for ten years and I finally got the chance to do so Wednesday afternoon so stay tuned for that as well. This one means a lot to me but before we get to all of that I wanna tell you about an incredible story in the AFC that many of you are probably familiar with on. Thursday's episode of ESPN daily podcast ESPN's. Tom Rinaldi talks to the Great. Mina kimes about his indepth reporting on heavyweight. Walt Harris who of course tragically lost his daughter. Anaya Blanchard in late. Two Thousand Nineteen in the episode. Rinaldi Explores Harris quest for justice outside the Octagon and how it affects his mindset going into it of course he fights this Saturday night against house to over him on. Espn in the main event of that card. There's an SC featured piece coming out about his story on Friday. So please look out for that. It's an incredible piece in Tomor. Now the opinion is the best in the business. What does and so you know when his name is attached to it? It is worth watching. I've seen it. It is worth watching also. Of course we have the final two episodes of the last dance airing on Sunday evening nine pm Eastern on ESPN. I can't believe it's almost over. I'm so sad about all this. I've enjoyed it so much. I've enjoyed the DOCU series immensely about Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls. You know about all that but I've also enjoyed listening to my guys Jalen and Jacoby because immediately after the broadcast each and every week they talked to my friend director Jason Hare about the making of the series great behind the scene stories great anecdotes. If you haven't been listening you should be listening. It's called Jalen and Jacoby the after show presented by state farm any TNT. And you can find it on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts and gentlemen welcome to him back in your life. This Thursday may fourteenth two thousand and twenty it just became Thursday may fourteenth. It's midnight on the East Coast. I'm area Awani. And how fun is this for the first time ever. We get to do a live. Ufc post-flight show. This is the Halawani show right here on. Espn radio the ESPN APP. And siriusxm channel eighty reacting to the UFC in Jacksonville but guess what the UFC and Jacksonville is it. Over the midst of the main event. And it's a great main event between Anthony Smith and glory to Shera. They're going into the third round as we speak. It's been a fun technical fight so react to that once it's over but so far it's been a great now. We'll be talking about about that for the next hour right here on. Espn radio we are presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance so this has been the second UFC event in the past. What four so days? It's been great. We had one on Saturday. Ufc Two forty nine. We have one tonight by the way this main event right now between Anthony Smith and globally. Shera heading into the third round. You can watch it live with me on. Espn plus the third round is about to get underway. It's a close one. It could be one one could be two for Anthony. Smith Smith Looks Good. Glove TO SHERIFF HAS A MOUSE UNDER. Believe if memory serves me correct. Yes his left eye and so it's a really fun so pop on. Espn plus fire up the radio. And let's talk some fighting ten fights on this card. There was supposed to be eleven earlier today. We found out that the Carl Rogerson versus Marvin Vittori fight was cancelled because Roberson failed to make weight and then yet complications due to the mishap with the weight and went to the hospital. Late last night in Jacksonville was discharged this morning and now he's feeling better. The actually had a run in at the hotel. The very upset. He's had a lot of cancellations over the past five six months so he kind of let out some frustration so it went from eleven to ten fights and overall it has been a very fun night fights and I gotta say once again. I really enjoy the fights would know fans. I'm not trying to be a hater towards the fans. I love the fans without the fans. I'm nothing by the way global shares about their finish Anthony Smith here. Let's keep an eye on this really good stuff. I hope you're watching. Espn plus but the event with no fans has been really really fun for a couple reasons. You really get to hear what the corners are saying to the fighters and you could feel the shots. I was watching the co made event between Ben Rothwell and and always p open saint proven. I could feel each and every one of those shots from the heavyweights in particular the needs to the body those hurt and so it's a different element. It's a different. It's a different way to watch a fight. It's a brand new wrinkle and not saying that I don't WanNa see fights in front of fans ever again but this has not been a detriment and perhaps there are other sports watching this as well. This has been a drawback dare. I say kind of like aboard. I kind of feel like or anyway. I want to hear from all of you. Do you like it better with fans you'd like it less with fans. Do you like you less with fans you like less with more. Do you like it. Okay just tell me what you think or do you like it less with the fans or without the fans. I want to hear from you. One triple eight say. Espn is the number to call one. Eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six. That is the number to call and later in the program we're going to be joined by Some of the winners tonight. Let me run down the results as we currently stand chase Sherman. Ufc veteran return to the UFC. On a little over a week's notice to defeat Ike Villanueva. This was probably his best performance in the AFC. He had been the several years ago. Went on a skit. Three fight losing streak comes back fights by the way in between and bare knuckle. Fighting didn't look all that good you know. On the on the local circuit he was okay but then when he went to bare knuckle fighting. I was sort of thinking like okay. He's probably done. Ufc 'cause they don't want to be associated with something like that but hey they signed up. They needed some fighters and he looked fantastic one via Tko on the second round great win for the Vanilla Gorilla as he calls himself. Brian Kelleher of long island had fantastic. Knockout win over hunter. Zuri in the second round. He's now want to fights in row and this was his first fight on a new contract. Look Great in this fight and he continues to roll. He had a big win. This past January on the same card Conor McGregor versus Donald. Surani Omar Morales defeated Gabrielle. Benitez of decision you may have seen moby Benitez's Shin on social media. I don't know why they had zoom in on this. There was a massive Gash on Shin. It was crazy and the zoomed in on it and then they have like a q tip just like digging into that thing. I feel about the fate just talking about it. It was disgusting. Why did they have to show that? I mean I like fighting and everything but do I need to see an open wound with a Q. Tip rubbing up against the actual bone in the Shin just seems excessive to me anyway. So Jar eubanks defeated summarized decision. That was the prelims Tiago. Motionless had a great ankle locked. Victory Victory Excuse me over Michael Johnson in the second round that was somewhat of a Comeback Win Andrea defeated Felipe. Lynn's the veteran d former. Ufc heavyweight champion Andrea Lobski. The pit bull himself via unanimous decision that we had Ricky Simone defeating Ray Borg via split decision. That was a pretty fun fight. And then we got to the meat of the card and drew dober- who be joining us later in the program defeated Alexander says via Tko. He's now won three in a row and he is a name to watch at one fifty five. He has turned into a great fighter training with a great team in Colorado elevation fight team. And you may have heard a guy named Justin Gates you at a big win this past week. And he trains out there as well. Corey San Hagen. Top contender one. Thirty five trains out of there as well curtis blades top contender at heavyweight trains. Out of there as well and so. He's another product of that team and they are doing really good things. Dober- is now rolling. Great win over Alexander. Hernandez Coleman events saw Ben Rothwell defeat. Ov- Saint provious. Split DECISION WAS P. Moving up the heavyweight for the first time in his career and you know had his moments. I thought it was a clear. Twenty nine twenty eight for Ben. Rothwell not so sure about that one guy who gave it to to sp but that was a really fun. Fight more fun than I thought it was going to be. And now we are in the main event. The main event by the way is headed to the Fourth Round. Everything has changed now to share completely dominated. That was a possible. Ten eight for Glover to Shera Anthony. Smith seems a little bit days a little bit. Confused certainly beat up cut and he seems exhausted as well. So we're heading into the fourth between two guys who have losses in title fights the John Jones two of the most game light heavyweights out there. Smith looks absolutely exhausted We'll see if he's able to rebound here in the fourth round because things were looking good for him early on all right again number to call one triple eight seven nine three seven seven six. I want this to be about you guys. I want you guys to react. I want you guys to react and I want you to be heard on the first ever. Ufc post shown the history the illustrious history of ESPN radio so pain and Missouri Europe. I my man. You're making history with me. What's on your mind tonight? Did you enjoy the car? To what do you think of this main event? This is great stuff between Anthony Smith. Global Shera yes absolutely earl Seniors by the way each fan of you cormet on a Monday morning. Thank you and Yeah absolutely and yeah like you said. I thought names as doing great. I think he just like just like the announcer saying through to through a lot. Worse off a little bit in back in the cage. He just tends to turtle up just a little bit and it's just starting to him. Yeah and it looks like now. The doctors were checking him out here but it seems like he's okay. So Anthony Smith now entering into the fourth round the fourth round about to start between Smith Global Shera curious. Did you think that he was winning? The first two rounds like Oh looks expensive. Deep trouble here. Did you think he was winning? Those first two rounds we may have lost. Okay Oh midway through the second daughter starting to slip away a little bit and then obviously he just got dominated. Yeah I feel like the the end is near here for for Anthony Smith Star of the show for you pain. Who comes to mind? Who's your MVP of the show? Oh probably drew Dover. That was Dow's big win. That was a great win. He's come a long way. He's looking good. Thank you for the call pain. I appreciate it. Absolutely thank you he had judokas. Look really good. He's won his last three in a row and this is a guy who's been in the UFC since two thousand thirteen to look at his record again like Whoa you present in the AFC since two thousand thirteen first of all. He's very good looking. I think you can make a case for stopping this fight right now. I think that Anthony Smith isn't a lot of trouble on Jason Herzog's giving him a lot of but men things are getting a little dicey here for Anthony Smith back to judoka he's been in the UFC since two thousand thirteen. He has looked really good as of late but when he came to the UFC he didn't look like this he really didn't. I mean he lost his first two then he beats jamie loses a fight. Controversial fight it was overturned to a no contest loses his next one to darrow. Then he started to go on a bit more of a role but early on. I mean you're talking about a guy who had one win in his first five. Ufc fight certainly didn't look like the world beater that he's become and he fights with aggression. He's strong he's certainly confident. He's really turned into a name that I'm excited about now. He's no spring chicken so to speak. I mean he is thirty one years old but still I didn't see this coming attitude Dover I really didn't. He's looked really good and in particular his last his last win over Nasrat hot sort To me was the one that really opened my eyes. That was the one that I found to be extremely impressive. I mean that guy was someone that a lot of us. Espn had pegged as an up and comer legit prospect. If you will today a little pole thingy where we ranked the top twenty five best fighters in the sport under twenty five. He was one of those guys. And then you know in his next fight dober- starched him another great performance. This evening came at a Brian. Kelleher Brian Kelleher of Long Island had lost two in a row and then all of a sudden he's now won two in a row and he's gone to finishes in a row and it seemed like he was a little bit lost in his career there for a moment and now he's been able to turn things around. He signed a new contract. When it does last on a losing streak no contract and wins that fight on the Corner Card Against Soda Osborne and gets a contract and then comes into this card looking great looking like a million bucks and now has want to enroll again. It's been a lot of fun to watch these fights in these. You know these these Interesting Times empty arena. The setting is fun. You're hearing the shots and let's be honest the UFC is the only game in town right now. As far as North American sports are concerned and so I think we're all very thankful that we have something new to talk about and have to break down the nineteen eighty six world series anymore. These are fun times after the break. We're going to be joined by one of the big winners on tonight's carts so stick around. We got a lot more to come as far as this post fight. Show is concerned. We're making history here my friends we're making actual history here on Espn Radio Globus. Shera Anthony Smith. They're heading possibly into the fifth round but Anthony Smith is not looking good. I'll tell you about more of what happened tonight. Plus we'll talk to one of the big winners coming up right after this. Welcome back to the Hawaii show right here on. Espn RADIO ESPN APP. And SIRIUSXM channel eighty number to call is one triple eight say espn we are reacting to the UFC. Event Tonight in Jacksonville a Hawaii. And of course we want to hear from you guys so give us a call triple eight seven to nine three seven seven six that we're presented by progressive insurance now. The main event just ended global to share defeated Anthony Smith in the fifth round via Tko. And I have to say. I'm pretty disgusted by what we saw. This fight went on way too long. I don't know why Anthony Smith Corner did not react to it earlier. Didn't stop the fight earlier. They let their guy get beat up for at least two rounds there And it was just it was needless and so my partner tailpiece son and is all the Wayne Westland Oregon. I see him reacting to the fight on twitter so I wanted to get his thoughts about right now. He's kind enough to join us on the phone. Are you there I am here? I'm disgusted chill. I'm serious that that is not who we are. That is not what we do on any level. I do not know what anybody's watching. I cannot believe the corners allowed him to go. What is it corner? Therefore if you're not there to protect your guy to ten rounds in a row which by the way it would have been three ten rounds in a row which has never been done in the history of the sport because it means you gotta get your guy out of there. I could not believe that. Nobody saved him. He gave every clue that he was done. He had too much pride to get himself out of there. I think we appreciate that area. But he's giving every clue get me home. You don't stop the fight when you're when you're fighter it can no longer move you. Stop the fight. When you're fire can no longer win. That was twelve minutes ago. Yeah was needless understand. Who Do you blame more here? The corner or the REF Jason Herzog. Hers could've stopped the fight that he's got he's got a bird's eye view the whole thing. What does it he stop by two rounds ago? I was a little bit confused with that. I think I blame the corner a little bit more. Anthony was moving at times. I don't know that I idea that he was intelligently defended himself with the rule calls for so. I suppose a little this would spill over to the referee but more than anything. You've got the corner. I mean not for nothing but the referee is out there working. He's looking at stuff he's talking to guys he's here some things that perhaps you and I don't know about unfairness. My goodness. What's the corner doing their? If they're not there to protect their fighter tell tell. You throw a Jab. Protect your fighter. Now I was doing the radio show while the main event was going on the back end of it but I saw some people at twitter. Say did you hear and we could hear everything which is Kinda cool part about having these fights in front of no one did ethnic tells corner that his teeth were falling out or that. He was feeling like his teeth. Were about the fallout. According to the announcers I didn't hear the corner say that but I heard John Antic in the announce team say that they said that that Anthony has said I could not hear that myself. There was some more dialogue going on Arab between Anthony Clover. They talked at two different points in the fight. They stopped what they were doing. They began talking very curious what they were saying to each other as well. I mean when when when a fighter tells US corner my teeth are about the fallout? I kind of feel like that's a sign that we should stop this now. He gave every sign. He gave every clue to the referee of. Hey I need my tag team partners. Step in here which happens to be you and he give every sign to his core. There was a moment in between rounds. I think it was just prior to the fifth round. The referee was talking to him. Anthony Smith did not respond to the referee. He took it walked away. That is it because he's tired of talk to the referee. That is a sign if I may fighter and you ask me if I'm okay and I do not answer the question. I am giving you an answer. Well hanging onto my pride right. We're talking to tell sending here on the UFC post fight. Cheryl visit infuriating. I I've never thought about a fight before I really can't remember this. I'd have to go all the way back to Don frye versus but tash commissions. I cannot believe what we saw here and I don't understand you. Go look at the judge in the Ricky Simone fight for goodness sakes one guy white to I. Don't this is a little bit. Weird inspite pairs. I I need to be in a better spirit right now but as far as what I just saw here in in the lack of responsibility of not stopping this contest ten minutes ago man. I'm a little hot well. I appreciate the hotness. I appreciate the pride we've debated this scenario and the bad guy before. Why don't tournaments stopped fight? Sooner and boxing you see it all the time right. My theory is one pay structure. You know you have to show have to win and a lot of them. Don't WanNa be responsible for taking money out of their fighters pocket and there's this sort of false bravado in the sport like hey you know. You're a weakling. If you stop the fight I say lift to fight another day. They did a massive disservice to Anthony Smith tonight. He will feel the of this fight for many many years right it is so shortsighted to not stop a fight when you could just live to fight another day. I don't get that mentality. Why don't we see pain in as an insane bravado air? I don't know where it came from either? No other sport carries a stigma nowhere. The sport carries that level of responsibility. If if if Lebron's hurt Lebron goes and sits down. I mean that's the way it works. And that's what he should do. I do not know where this comes from employees. I realize it's different. It's a contact sport. And all this different provider. You took a t shirt off and you walk into a steel cage in front of the world except let's get it on. There's your bottle you've already separate yourself from the pack. We don't need to stay out there and take years off a career. Now let me ask. Would they not thought the fight? There's three of these guys in the quarter. They all gotta talent none of them funded for two to eight rounds a guy refusing to talk with the referee. Their guy balling up their guy being knocked down there guy bleeding that both sides of his eyes and by the way then tells them. I think that might keep broken. Nobody picked up the clue. You GotTa put on your Colombo Rain Jacket you gotta you gotTa Bring Perry Mason and come on. But I do feel like we need to blame. Jason Herzog who by the way is a fine referee and historically does a great job. What the hell was he seeing like? Why did he let this go on so long? I feel like we could do this. Like a fifty fifty split right. We can blame the corner fifty percent for not stepping in. But we expect that out of them. I expect more from Jason. Hers ought to be honest. Oh ever everybody panzer dirty in this thing. I really don't know what I saw. I mean it was no way to end a night I it was such a tastic event and all the precautions and everything that went into it. I just don't understand what we have to. We have to do that to Anthony. I'm a little bit confused and and and I mean I think we set our piece on this. Let's go ahead and spend another director job by whoever? Yeah I mean nothing but what a job like over forty years young forty one years you know. Been in this business for a long time. Now what is what is his his his fifth fighter win in a row. If I'm wrong. It's his fourth. But that's quite a streak for a forty year old man. Oh Yeah I mean. I didn't see this coming from him. He's forty years old as as you said. He turns forty one in October. He's been in this game a long time. Now improves to thirty one in seven. He's won four in a row now the before Anthony Smith weren't quite contenders but still foreign around the. Ufc is four in a row. Very impressive. I thought Anthony want the first round. Maybe the second in your opinion what did what did glover due to turn this thing around and do it so effectively dominantly okay so it was a little bit. Fifty fifty. Here was the problem. Anthony fought like he's never bought before and it was in one thing and that was quality. I mean he was pumping jabs. He was throwing kicks. Rare kicks UPPERCUT elbows knees. But he's never done it in that kind of all and if you go back and do a punch count and the first round of this fight versus any round. And any other he's ever had. It was two to one and when the effort like that is being output Over a five round to use the CONOR McGregor phrases become very famous. I was not efficient with my energy. Anthony Smith was not finished efficient with his energy. He dumped everything he needed over. Twenty five minutes. He played it all into about seven and he's just got tired. I mean it was as simple as that. Look when you're out there working harder than you've ever worked before you're going to get tired. He got tired and in fairness. I don't really blame the blame strategy. It looked as though he had some opportunities and maybe get clover out of there was a very one sided affair. The the problem. What's global was a little bit more experienced and said okay. Looks like you grab this round. Throw this one away. I got four more to catch kid and he did tell. You're the man. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for thanks for the passion. Appreciate it wanting goodbye yes I love it all fired up. I'm fired up to. I was watching that. I'm trying to do the show but I'm also watching this getting mauled. The heck is going on here now. I appreciate your channels coming from but I do think that we're we're letting her SAAG. The referee Jason Herzog. The referee off the hook here. He could have stopped that a long time ago. And like I said I think after you Smith is going to be feeling that for a long time by the way according to the ESPN APP. Mma twitter account. This is the exchange that she was referring to glorious said. Sorry Anthony's part of the Job Smith response. What Gloria says. Sorry part of the Job Smith and says yeah. It is what it is. That's what you're hearing when there aren't fans in attendance after the break we'll talk to one of the big winners from tonight. Drew Dober- will join us to talk about his big win over. Alex Hernandez do not go anywhere this to Hawaii show right here on ESPN radio. I took talk off signature and a number next next week. Welcome back to the Hawaii. Show right here on. Espn radio the ESPN APP and Siriusxm Channel. Eighty one triple eight say. Espn is the number to call and as always we're presented by progressive insurance. Mary a whole Lonnie reacting to tonight's card not Saturday's car tonight's Card old habit. It's rare that we get a Wednesday card for the UFC but we just got one that wrapped up in Jacksonville. Gloucestershire defeated Anthony Smith. In the main event it was hard to watch towards the end because glove to share was just beating up. Anthony Smith and it was very excessive and I thought his corner or the referee. Jason Herzog should have stopped it way earlier. Now one fight. That didn't have any of that. Controversy came earlier in the main card. It was Ju- Dober- extending his winning streak to now three in a row with a great win over Alexander Hernandez and Uber's kind enough to be joining us right now from Jacksonville drew. How are you my man? Congratulations making so much. Fantastic at this point. Where are you right now? I'm calling on the bus. Getting back to the hotel You're doing their job. Then all the fighters Dave so Just being quarantined and putting back in the room so I can Get shocked off to Denver tomorrow. Now what was it like fighting in that? Empty Arena No I missed the fans but missed the energy But I can't say it was a extremely unusual Winter in the caging and opponent in front of you you Kinda just zone in. And that's all you think about so like I said we're talking to drew dober- another big win for youth. Three straight finishes now tonight. You beat Alexander Hernandez I'm wondering if you can assess this performance now. The two previous fights were stopped in the first round. Little over a minute. This one went all the way to the end of the second round where you happy with your performance overall Incredibly I had to go back and watch the films but lately we put down all the mistakes Meghan I love earlier finishes and my body loves it even more But yeah getting a Finnish You know against Alexander end is something. I was looking forward to and You know how your phone interview keep getting better and so I got to keep starfish if it were that. You said you thought you made mistakes in the fight. Oh Yeah of course. There's always mistakes you making the fights. You can't have a perfect right. So what are some of the mistakes that you think you made before watching it of course You know judging by the way the corners we're talking to me I was talking many bombs Some of my reactions to his offense. I could have closed the distance a little bit more. I was head hunting a time I could have working the body and the Allegra a little bit more I'm very self critical so back to the drawing board and trying to get better. We're talking to judoka. Who had a big win tonight against Alexander Hernandez the event in Jacksonville? Three in a row now and I was talking about this earlier you came into the UFC in two thousand thirteen. I can't believe you've been there for this long. It's amazing to me in early on was a little tough right the two losses and then you win one and the no contest than you lose one. How do you explain this to me your your name to watch? You are legit name to watch on a roll. I don't WanNA fight you if I'm in this division. How do you explain this role and the way you're fighting with the confidence the power the technique? Everything's coming together for you. How do you explain this You know with all my sale year is my losses. There's other things going on but I was quite brutal. Richard if I team elevations of Asian and the coaching staff and teammates out there. We've really propelled me to becoming You know seeing my potential and so with my losses my earlier you know Phase of the UFC. That just Kinda shows that changes I was making and I was headed like make adjustments and after I made the Europeans and started improving. And now we're seeing. The victories stem said. Is this. The most confident you've ever felt in your career incredibly Thirty one years of age and a lot than I did in my early twenties My call me a late bloomer but I feel absolutely on top of my game right now. And and even when you're walking out to the cage drew you just lose that confidence. I mean you know this. We talked about this last time. You're incredibly good looking young man so you don't need. I'm sure you've heard this from other people but you just look. I said that this flight was like chew homecoming kings going toe to toe. You and Alex you just have that look. Did you feel like now? Your school is number one. That's what it felt like for me like you were fighting for bragging rights here. I I can wear. The the problem came ground now but No I just I enjoy every every single moment so you see. His confidence is really just me just eating it up just enjoying every moment of you know the the time that we think about like for eight to ten weeks as miles walking out. I was just enjoying every moment of it all right so afterwards drew. You said that you wanted to fight. Paul felt you obviously knew that he was calling the fight. Did you say that you wanted him next because he was there? Or is that the guy regardless foods calling her fight so I don't like calling anybody out all call a Paul elder. I WANNA fight guys like Paul tells or dust employee Conor McGregor. I these top tier like know cowboys of the lightweight division. So I have really no Sandra focused all or anyone else in the division. I just want to be able to compete with the best in the world and the light division. Has It and put me up against anybody. Ju- congratulations on the win. My main I mean honestly. I'm blown away by what you've been doing as of late. The last three the one Prior to this one on the CONOR McGregor card now here in front of the audience. Where everyone's at home watching you have to have to ask you for let you go. Do you have a chance? I know you're very busy over there. But did you have a chance to watch the main event I did? Unfortunately I'm a huge fan. What about that I mean? Don't you feel like that should be stopped? Either by the REF or the corner. Who Do you blame? More in that scenario Honest I wouldn't be able to put too much because I had to turn my eyes. I DIDN'T WANNA continue watching it so I continue to do whatever I was doing in the back room so I don't really have a strong opinion on it but You know if I'm putting on I think as a professional fighter in the UFC. You know we're here to were already putting our lives in our health at risk. So you definitely have to give. Every you know is calling fights later than earlier because I mean this is the biggest you know promotion in a world where the best fighter in the world to give us every single chance to show what we're truly capable of So I I heard it was like Chennai Rowan's and stuff like that and then you know I can't really care for Anthony Health and wellbeing but You know you're able to show his his heart and You know and and his ability so as a positive. Take on that yeah. I hope he's feeling better. Because gruesome towards the end. You mentioned that his teeth were about the fallout so yeah. I don't know the full details of the fire because I turn away drew. Congratulations again. Great performance keep it up man. I'm looking forward to the next one. Thanks for doing this. The mandate he's so much. That's judo big win for him over Alexander Hernandez tonight in Jacksonville on ESPN. Plus jobs. All in I can tell you is all in Halle Berry. Dana White. There are all into the all in challenge fundraising initiative continues to offer exciting sports experience experiences that you can bid on or enter to win. It's all to support organizations providing food to those in need particularly kids the elderly in frontline workers. I like this music Jamaica now. This is Great Dana White and actress Halle Berry who I just mentioned. She is a hard core. Ufc Fan and they are teaming up to provide the ultimate UFC experienced. The winner will go to the Las Vegas. 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It's either yawn block Horwitz or dominic raise. The consolation prize could very well be globe the show and again like I said. Chill at forty years old. I didn't see this this second. Third Fourth Act. Out Glow of the share. That's an impressive win. Fight guys who are lower in the rankings. All right you're not really sure what to make of it. You beat a guy like Anthony Smith like that. That is very impressive. All right coming up one last segment go. That's it. Can they let me go? What else is happening at one? Am ON ESPN radio. Let me go for another hour. I'll go to. I'll go three. We Got Angela. Louise's Zack Sterling. Calvin all you guys on hold. I'll get you. I will not leave you hanging. I promise one more segment to go here the Hawaii show taken over. Espn radio or UFC. They'll go anywhere Yeah a little cotton Nadal Fisher and they con- on this Wednesday night we're talking flights here on ESPN radio. I'm not going anywhere. They're gonNA kick me off the air in eight minutes. I guess what I'm not leaving. I WANNA show right here on. Espn RADIO ESPN APP. And SIRIUSXM channel eighty. I am fired up after what I saw tonight. In Jacksonville Florida Shera gave Anthony Smith two rounds of beating that he will never forget. It was reckless. Needless it was senseless fight should have ended in the third round. What the heck were they doing out there? What the heck were they doing out there in Jacksonville? What was his corner doing? What was the referee Jason Herzog doing? It's unfortunate because I haven't had a lot of chance to talk about Ben. Rothwell big win and we just spoke to jober and how about Bryan Keller Great Performances. Well a lot of great performances tonight but unfortunately somewhat marred by that fight. That went on too long. Triple eight say. Espn one eight seven nine. Three seven seven six is the number to call. This last segment is all about you guys. I guess what we're not going anywhere if they kicked me off we riot. Alex and Pittsburgh. What's on your mind gone? I decided Pity on twitter. There's a look like Or Smith was handing her teeth on the ground. His teeth. On if you're able to see that or not but he looked like delivering was going for the rear naked from back and you see Smith reach up and hand. Something hers is filling that if if that's the case keenum teeth. What is it for dog to stop the fight at that point or at least check on? I mean that was just senseless. I thought the whole the whole second half of that fight like you just said it. It should have been stopped. I don't understand how it wasn't stopped. This is one of my pet peeves and thank you for the call in MMA corners. Don't stop flights soon enough in in boxing. It seems like the coaches care more or they don't feel that kind of pressure. I don't get it stopped. The fight live to fight another day. It's okay you fought great. You fought valiantly. It's okay. Why are you letting your guy get concussed? Get his brains bashed in for what no point? You'RE GONNA lose the fight trust me. We all know you'RE GONNA lose. The fight stopped the fight. Show that you care for your guy deal with the heat in the moment later on you'll figure it out if you're truly a good pairing you'll figure it out cedric in. Kentucky. What'S UP. What's going on So I know that made it. It was very it was different because the being that's great but what's next for to share it because you know he's he's lost coin. Anderson Gustafsen is out. You Know Jones and Joan the rematch between Jones and ray has Santos's hurt. The only person in front of is is is Is that a fight to make. Who's d'humieres interesting? What about what about the guy who doesn't get John Jones? What if they do yeon? It's Jones then. What about race and over or if they do raise Jones to which is the fact that I wanna see then do young buffalo. It's Anglo for we that that sounds great. How do you see them? Lining up stylistically. Well I think Dominic Reyes beats him. I think he's a chance I mean again. He's forty years old so he's he's getting up there in age. I think that Dominic Beats Him. I think he's a chance against John. I really want to see the Dominic Reyes fight. I WanNa see grace for John. Jones toots the biggest fight that they can make for John Jones great backstory. I thought John Jones lost to him the first time when they find February and Houston. And then I'd love to see why not why not why not yon and Glover as consolation prize. Let's see what happens there? Thank you for the call. My man let's go to Devon and Michigan Devon it's up burial. How's IT GOING I just have a quick question so that was pretty sad but as for Fevers Rosso we saw OSB struggling with his cardio. How do you think that if John Jones moved up to heavyweight how do you think he's GonNa Fair heavyweight and Who Do you think he'll go again? I'm not on the John. Jones moving up the heavy bandwagon anymore. I don't like the idea I think that As of ladies slowed down a little bit. He doesn't have to cut a lot of weight. I don't see the point of this stick around at light heavyweight. Try to get back on track. I know he's still the champ. But the last two performances didn't knock our socks off and maybe wait to see if Israel destiny can move up and fight him in that super flight but you got unfinished business with Dominic Grass. You got unfinished business with your wits. Heck you gotTa Finish Mrs Tiago Santos as well. Don't think about heavyweight now as for p his manager or an Hodak told me today that two five was getting to be problematic. I think he could have some good performances. Some interesting fights at heavyweight but to be honest. He's too small to be to be a heavyweight. In my opinion I think he's better off at two five. He's really having trouble than the. That's the situation that he's in but honestly I don't think he can hang with the big boys heavyweight and Ben. Roth was a big boy heavyweight and you saw he was getting manhandled there. Let's go to Zach Tennessee. Zac what's up Harry? All my question was I'm a big fan and I was wondering if you ever see a future where daring chill is the one eighty five pound champion or if you think it's on your minds that division while they're both in their products. I appreciate the question. I don't think that I think Dan tells probably one fight away from being in that discussion he was supposed to Robert Whitaker. If you recall an August now we don't know what's going to go on with that fight it because of the whole pan-demic and travel restrictions and whatnot. I love that you could beat Robert Whitaker. He can be in that discussion to fight Israel destiny. I think he's much better off fighting a one eighty five and I'm happy that he has finally come to terms with the fact that he is better off at fighting wanted five. I still don't think we've seen the best until I think. They rushed him when he fought for the belt against turned Woodley. And so yeah. I'm not going to rule out a title run for him absolutely not WanNA show. Espn radio we are taking over. Five minutes left heck no one hour and five minutes left. I say no. I'm just joking. It's really five minutes but if you WANNA change your mind anyone who's listening out there. I'll be happy to do it. Sterling in Washington Sterling. What's up high aerial first of all? Thank you for all you do for. Ufc and makes arts as a whole my questions. Kind of reiterating what Previous question was but I really enjoyed the car tonight. I just couldn't stand what The corner doing to Smith and I had a group chat going and we were just old like saint in the size of those into the corner and the hot mic picks up that he's fibbing teeth out and he hands it to. The Guy said it was just terrible. Say Hi to do and Dan and everybody thank you okay. I will who student Dan. I'm not sure but I will say hi to them as well as you're talking about. I don't know who he's talking about anyway. I appreciate the call Calvin in Massachusetts. Calvin what's up and then first of all I wanNA say. I'm very sad because this reminded me. The main event reminded me of Ferguson. Brisk H. E. which was very traumatic for me. This was worse. Yeah both were very traumatic. And then secondly I personally thought Brian Kelleher had outside of maybe glow over at the performance of the night. I was crazy now. I don't disagree Kelleher Dober- probably the top three. I wonder who got the awards? I haven't found out yet but Kelleher certainly looking good as of late. The pride of Long Island. Let's go to Eduardo in Nebraska at what's up Pretty sad over. You're having watch our hometown. Guy Kinda take a look at round that fight A couple of weeks ago until obviously everything got canceled. Probably the best. But my question is What do you make of when Tj dillashaw comes back? I feel like He kind of went out pretty badly with WHO did not take that loss. Well fighters criticize them and then get a test positive commodified or lost things. Don't really like what it's GonNa take for him to try and that is around. Yeah he's got a win a couple that division is so stack right now with Pewter. Yan Of course we don't know about Henry so we got San Hagan. We've got jemaine sterling. He's got to win at least two or three to get back into that picture. Let's go to nick and nick. What'S UP AERIAL My question is still alive. Blame seeing on the corner and this but where do you put the blame onto the referee? Her for not stopping earlier. Listen I think the referees the First Line of Defense and I don't mean to cut you off. We're in a bit of a lightning round here. But I couldn't agree with you more. Jason Herzog is a very very good referee. He should've stopped that sooner. He's literally standing over. Anthony Smith. What are you seeing? I respect the fact that you want to give him the respect that he deserves as the main event is a former title contender become on last round than half nothing arguably to ten eight rounds back to back because getting beat up. He's potentially handed you teeth if not. He's clearly telling his corner that the teeth are coming out. What are we doing here rocky in Ohio? What's up hey I just want to say I love you and your love you to another question just kinda fallen off that last caller do you think anything with the cruise fight had to do with her dog not stopping the fight there with taking so long with the criticism of Peterson. Last night. There now Jason Herzog is legit Raff. I mean he's he's he's a veteran. He's an anything to do with that. Isaiah in Texas you get the last word Isaiah. You've got ten seconds. What's up all right awesome? What do you think about Brian? Callahan calling out should be Sean. How do you think that's why would go? I like it. Brian Kelleher is on a roll. Why not this silly Bolton who Louise Louisiana News from Louisiana? But he's looking good as of late. I'm a big fan of boom Kelleher. All right we're out of time. My efforts to extend us an extra hour have failed just like the corner and the referee failed. Anthony Smith tonight but this was a lot of fun. And hopefully I've been banging this drum for quite some time. Post-fight show is arguably more fun than the pre show. Because you can react. You could get all heated. You get off fired up so I've enjoyed this very much. Thank you very much to jober. Thank you very much to my partner Charles Son and most importantly thank you very much to all of you. Who called in again glove to share a beats Anthony Smith. We got judo with a big win. We got Ben Rothwell with a big win on all a great night of fights in the. Ufc is back this Saturday on ESPN and ESPN plus in Jacksonville. I'll be with you for a prefight show from one to three now though we're kicking us we're kicking ass at here. We're GONNA sportscenter allnight. I'll be back on Saturday. Enjoy your evening my friends. I love you all. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'll talk to you Saturday afternoon. All right so that was a lot of fun I love doing. Radio shows love interacting with fans. And hopefully we get to do more post fight shows because I've always felt like there was a need an opening avoid of Doing a post show after a big event getting to talk to people to some. It's common in regular sports. So why can't we do in our sport until I enjoyed that very much and by the way? We're going to be back on the airwaves this Saturday from one to three. Pm Eastern heading into the ouster over Walt Harris Card so a lot more. WanNa show coming to the airwaves in the near future. Now though let's transition over to my interview with the undertaker so last time I spoke to this man October twenty third two thousand ten Honda Center Anaheim California Brock less versus Cain Velasquez for the heavyweight title was the main event. I'm assuming if you're listening to the show you know about that exchange you know about the moment you know about brock walking buying him saying you want to do but in case you either. Don't know what I'm talking about or you forgot. Or You just WANNA relive it as we prepped for this interview with the undertaker. Here's that moment. That really changed my career. Think considering the size difference that he'd be able to manhandled them like that. I think Fox strength and size would over what over matching thought it would have to go into cardio battle and I'm actually very surprised. Almost like you're at a loss for words there won't last night right there. What did you say I kind of a personal thing You know maybe you need to train a little harder. You guys cool personal rooting for tonight. I background with Brock. But you know that just showed you something right. There are you've sport. Tom Van one of the first guy factually introduced them amaze the pro wrestling gloves. The Gogo Prada all yeah. I'm a big Fan I And I like to. You know the things that I can bring them into what we do. Obviously there's not many people prepare for it you know and you know it's I'm a big Fan. Perhaps twenty years ago this was as popular as it is today. You think you would have done it real setback late in the game for me to start now. Twenty years ago I'd be all over on their forget. How quickly that thing blew up? We ran to the back. Casey light nine videography for so many years ran to the back. And we're like what just happened. We were blown away by it all later the next day Sunday afternoon. Bill Simmons himself at the time was working for. Espn tweeted about it. It was all over. Tmz everyone was talking about a nine. No idea what happened. And so for the past ten years I have wanted to reconnect with the undertaker. And ask him what happened. What was that was a real was it. Fake was a work was a shoot. I still don't know ten years later. I've asked a lot of people rounding that story surrounding that scene and I can't get a straight answer and so with the upcoming Last ride Docu series on ww network. Playing this Sunday episode. To playing this Sunday we had episode one already. It was a good opportunity to talk to him. I appreciate WBZ. For helping us out here. And I got to ask him. That question finally ten years later. Here's my conversation with the Undertaker Aka. Mark callaway first off. Take our thank you so much for doing this. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me may put a lot of pressure on mayor beginning of the show. This flops mandate. It's all follow me. Come on man no pressure whatsoever but I was talking to someone yesterday. I have never been more excited to speak to someone and to ask a certain set of questions that hopefully we'll get to later in this interview than I am right now so I'm very much looking forward to this. But we'll start with the last ride and I I've seen episode one and it was phenomenon. I can't wait for episode to just curious because I know that your career has been. You are the quintessential professor for the past thirty years you. You didn't let people see the other side of the current and I think that's been a part of your success right because people didn't get to see you know mark out and about on social media doing interviews. You recall the moment where you decided you know what I should do this. I should let the cameras. Follow me for the first time. And I it's chronicle right before mess many with Roman in Orlando Like the feeling that the end was pretty. Close I figured you know what I'm only going to have one chance to do this now. Because obviously at the end of that match that Wrestlemania with a hat and gloves everything in the ring and that was genuine as it gets. I mean as far as our business an emotion my emotions and where I was at physically mentally so wanted to kind of capture kind of started with that day and then as when you know as things went along you know we said okay. We'll you know. Look this every time I came out I had a film crew there and they chronicled everything and then we had you know they come to the house. Here in Austin I just thought it was it was. I didn't know exactly what we were going to have. But on old I wanted it and and I knew some day We don't we do something with it. I didn't know that it was going to come this fast or I shouldn't say this fast it's been going on for three years now And it took me a while to Kinda you comfortable with it but I just knew that I wanted the that all that raw emotions. That are going on Like you said because I know I was the last of the. I'm you know I'm a dinosaur and I kept the old school ways and protected that character so I thought this is it. This is my only chance to really document. What's going on behind the black hat you know? So that's kind of how it all started and like you said it's been three years Typically you know. That's a long time to be working on a documentary but there's been some parallels to this Docu series and Michael Jordan. One that's aired on. Espn that one was twenty something years in the making. Why did you decide that okay now? Three years later this is the time to add as opposed to in ten or so years. Well one So once we started putting things together and everyone found out this. We've got some really really good stuff here and we started formulating you. How it was going to. You know how how it's going to play out there out. It was like this is really good and then obviously Right now new content is such demand you know just something other than watching the eighty four world series and. There's only so much all stuff that you could watch. And it just seemed like the timing. The timing was right and You know I'm still. I'm still present in the you know in the scope of things and I didn't WanNa help people and things. Are you know outta sight outta mind? So we felt like this is. This is the time and I think I think we kinda hit but I would have probably is. I'm a I like to wait. Make sure everything's perfect and all that so we had a little bit of pressure on the corporate side. And then you know we had the creative aspect of it but It all it all worked out and I think it's GonNa come out you know. I think he's coming out just at the right time. So so it's one thing to take part in the filming but now to sit back for someone who's so secretive throughout his career to sit back and watch it on television to see people react to really intimate moments with your family your career going through surgeries and whatnot to now seat out there in the public. How do you feel about it? You feel like it was the right choice to do this. I do and it took. It took me a long time to get comfortable You know having this your film crew around me. There were times where I forgot that I give them the okay because they were they were so conscious of of me. What I'm doing you know. They didn't want to get in my way when I was working. And you know but I would. I would corner of my eye because that's just the way I always. Well you know I see a film crew the Hell You Doing. You know filming. Yeah I forgot. I forgot to give you the okay. Oh now it's been really have said it's been it's been a real emotional roller coaster even for me watching this thing You know the final episode finished you But I've I've seen probably the the ninety percent package of each episode and it's You know killed the Gimmick. So I mean I've met glassy eyed more than once so You know especially when you hear your peers. You know the guys that I've worked with for so many years and You know their perspective on things and Ed's a you know it is a tough tough for me to watch sometimes But there too. I'm glad that we have it so that people understand how much the business meant to me means to me and let me be part of me and You know because I did keep a cloak around the character and the person you know a chaplain completely separate You know I don't think people really understand how important all and is to me and so I think it emotional roller coasters. The best way to describe the The whole thing the fact that this is out now does that mean. You're done come on you you. We'll give you that answer episode. Yeah no this is you're done. Is the career over or will it be addressed at some point in episode five? Might have to watch it all and find a love you brother but I can't give you. That comes out fair enough fair enough. I like that keeping things close to the vest and I wish Michelle does actually. She just walked out but she would have probably had something really smart to say. Because I've been retired like personally you're at when I'm at home for. I don't know at least six years over year I'll come back in a mall beat up and everything hurts the next day and I'm like you know all I get from hers a big role you know and she goes until April comes around and you know she's been she's been pretty accurate so far so I learned you never say never but it's very obvious that I have far far more matches behind me than I do in front of me and I mean that's just you know nobody. 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Could I ask a undertaker few questions after the fight you know? I'm assuming he's there to support his friend and he is going to weigh in on it. I know he's a big. Mma Fan. Said yes. Shirl ask so I stood by you for the entire. I watched it right next to you or law thin on the fight itself moments after the fight is over. We do a two minute or so interview. And this turns out to be one of the most memorable interviews my career till. This Day. I'm asking questions. Your eyes are kind of going off into another place in at one point Brock Walks by US and you turn to him and say you want to do it and I didn't actually hear what you said in the moment but I could tell your body language change and I asked you a bunch of subsequent questions and it seemed like there was a rift between you two and so after that my world exploded until this day. I don't know what happened there. And since we're in this mood now to you know break down the fourth wall. Could you explain to me what happened? There was that Ria what. What was the story behind that moment I was there I was there? Yeah I was there. I was sent their personal pick. Fight and You know I was unaware that had no clue what what what was going to happen which I felt horrible about you know after the fact I thought you know. I thought there was been some kind of discussion between him advanced. But you know like at that. Time was so hot in you know in the world so Obviously like you know what why not try it and you know There was no personal animosity really but it was. It was basically saying you left our world. I'M GONNA come into your world and a macaulay out you know I at that was it. And obviously it was a huge media storm and Is All your fault we now when you say you were there to pick a fight a real like an MA fight wrestling fight? I was trying to get him back in my world. Okay I'm I'm pretty gutsy but my my my days again the is far. Pass me I. I'm smart enough to realize that but I I thought you know if you get somebody that was on you know. Obviously there was such a history there you know because is run with wwe and then you know his success in and you know UFC if we can make it happen. So that's why that's what that was what it was all about. Did he know that you were going to be there Yeah he knew I was going to be there. I don't know that he knew you know I. I don't know how much you know about what I was going to do. And it worked out guy because I was at you know he could win another way he could went back. You know so I don't know I mean. I got really lucky that he came you know he came bias and Actually Watch Michelle my wife. Who was with me at a nudge me in here. He comes 'cause I was like I would. I don't even know that I would have done the interview. If I knew it would have been at the right spot. It worked out perfectly for you. Worked out perfectly for me. Because he can't and he came right bobby and I was like what you WanNa do. This there was man the the mind. And everybody's yeah it blew up so you in the right place at the right time man so people were accusing me of being in on it. I know idea was going on in the one thing that I kept going back to was. He walked a different way. Like usually you walk an opposite way to get to the back and he walked by US and so that's why I didn't know if he knew what you were trying to do or what. I had heard that you were going to go to the post fight. Press conference to try to make scene and once. That video happened once that exchange happen. You're like okay. My Work here is done in you left. Is that true? You know I know. I know I didn't have any credentials to go to the to the press conference. I I was just You know I was hoping that I was in Rye place at the right up. And it was everything lined up man. I mean the the interview him coming towards me at all worked out you know it just took too long to deliver it You know years where it's actually happened. I wish you it could have happened sooner but it was a it was an eventful night and Men helped all of his brother. How soon after that did you speak to him like? Did you talk to him that night and say like wow that really worked out well for us? Yeah I wouldn't deny for him personally. But the on the way out you know I I just you know. I didn't talk much about that at at a on him. Make sure you know that he was okay and You know it's like you know we'll see what happens down the road bro. Rose gotTA deals and why did it take so long for that match? Should be put together several years later you ended up meeting but why why did takes team that you had something right there and he left shortly thereafter. I don't know you know. He came in and mislead creative is created with a little different and. I'm not sure what took so long. Think Gauge where I was at Minot and I only happened but I would I had happened sooner but better late than all. Remember the Matt. It's that's a whole nother. That's all Jan worms and so eventually ended up meeting a Wrestlemainia as you alluded to could I ask you regret streak ending. Do you think that that was a mistake? You know eternally and way this business works like I knew someday that it would. It probably would in our industry. You just don't you know you don't walk away like Floyd. You know retire undefeated Iraqi Marciano. It just doesn't happen that way in wrestling. So I mean I was always in the back of my mind that it would end although most of my peers and people that I work with thought it was horrible decision And you know and Addis asked you know I I said. Are you sure you know is this? Is this what you want? And you know like if it's not brought who who you know who can beat you right away. The streak was built and by that time. Obviously so like well. We know that your call you know. Everybody thinks that I have all this juice. You know like I I can you know. Say yes or say no I mean I could have said no but what was I gonNA? Do you know a lot of people what I do not go out or you know a tizzy and is I don't know over GonNa win. This is not me. I'm business and business comes first before anything personal and so I just double checked and made sure that he was one hundred percent. Sure that's what he wanted to do. And now's That was the plan so I went with one thing that I've learned in this Documentaries that you're You know. Obviously you're a human being and you have feelings at times you have self doubt and You know you're unsure and it's like we view you you're such A. You're such a larger than life character on the screen that it's hard to imagine that you would ever doubt yourself that you would ever lose. Confidence are are you. Is it possible that the undertaker mark? How is he a sensitive guy? Is He you know. Is He someone that Is a little unsure of himself throughout his career as a theme for you or only later on no in fact when the when the match and I got the it was all over the concussion you know. At that time we have to kind of realized what I'm going through so and I think it's covered at the end of one is like I'm I'm working so I'm doing wrestlemainia and I'm going from Wrestlemainia and going to have some kind of surgery to repair whatever was hurting before went into mania and then I go rehab and then I go right into and I call champ now because I don't workable schedule right so have to kind of train. You know like a fighter does like I have to back out sixteen weeks and after figure out what my goals are whether I need to add weight with I need to lose weight Biggest thing being you know it. It is getting macario and all that right because assist you when you're on the road all year long you to stay hard. Stay in shake. Your body is used to the trauma so anyway so I had to stretch time there where I was only working. You know once a year mania twice a year at most some kind of special you know. Special rollers are smackdown or suffering. And I think what happened with that is it just caught up to you know my hip and I mean everything was was hurting and couldn't like get in the ring and and do that kind of stuff so my body wasn't used to the trauma of a match and you know most guys aren't able aren't physically able to throw me around quite like brock. Could you know and so I took a lot of you know a lot of different bumps that I don't normally take in and all that as far as being anti sensitive and you know all that now and I've always been really sure of myself after after a couple of years of really having a handle on what the undertaker character was? I mean I mean it's it kind of took over and I talked about it. There's not there's not much that can happen inside. The world of professional wrestling sports entertainment. Now's as were referred to but like I did feel like I had the answer to you. Know nothing that happened. Nothing could happen in a match. You know somebody get hurt. Something like that didn't feel like I could adapt on the fly and make it make it work and you know if I was in the ring with somebody. That was was horrible. Always felt like you know what? I'm good enough that I can make good. You know so I was always really confident until until I got that concussion and then I've had plenty of concussions and injuries all all that but I think it was the magnitude of the concussion Like I don't remember you know I don't remember that match at all. Well I last memory the day. That wrestlemainia is about three thirty in the afternoon. I had a conversation with my wife backstage now. There is a process that I go through. You know from when I started stretching when I start you know going to see the doctors. I mean. There's a it's a big process in its now I bid at all. I don't remember doing any of it. Well my memory picks up. My Memory. Picks up that night in the in the hospital about four. Am That's when. I finally remembered what my name was. You know why you know where I was at. It was bizarre. It was like somebody. It's like a lamp and somebody unplug me. It was like it was really and that shook me because I've never like I've been injured in matches. You know I've I've had my my orbital bones you know my my orbital bones busted out and continued with matches of of Russell broken ribs broken foot torn muscles and always been caught on fire And I've always been able to. You know just to will myself through it and you know this was just like wow. This is never happened to me and the fact that I don't remember you know I don't re- I watched that match back and I had no clue what was coming next. Yeah so I. That's what that's what rattled confidence. You know because I came back the following year and The Bray Wyatt and you know I I did all my due diligence. I went to the new. The doctors and I mean all clearances. And everybody's now you're good. You're good to go you know. Obviously if it happens again you need to make some serious considerations but You know as I'm is I'm waiting. Go out my musics about start playing man. My head is just I mean you know normally. We're I'm so zoned in an already turned into undertaker. I've got all kind of self doubt in my head like worried about the first. You know the first bump I take you know I mean I. Am I going lights out again? So that's that's really Over the last thirty years I mean initially when you start you. Don't you know you're green and you don't know anything? Yeah you have all your riddled with self-doubt self-doubt. You know when I started. Nobody wanted to help you. You know if somebody did help you usually screw it with. You're trying to make you know. Make you look silly but Yeah not till not until after that. Did I have much doubt about what my abilities were? Where I stood with that was you know it. It's it's very ironic because when I wrestled When I wrestle Rick Flair At mania know he came back and he is is. Because you have no idea what you just did for me is because they treated him so badly at WCW he had no concerts flare right and looking at him as he's telling me this and my head's just like one you're freaking Rick Flair. How do you not have continents? His was different than mine is mine was physical mental. But you know still until it happened to me. I didn't really ever understand it and then became crystal clear where that self doubt that self-doubt comes in and could ask. What is life like for you now because it's clear in the documentary at times you beat up as you just mentioned? It's hard for you to walk. You're limping in in two thousand twenty. Here we are May of two thousand twenty is is every. Step a strain. Do you feel like your body is broken. No so on a on a day-to-day basis Duffy. Obviously I feel more than probably most people do But you know no no not not like you know the day after a match. Are you know after I train? When I'm preparing for a match. You know all the stuff that I have to do. you know. Just just the ice and the cry auto stretching. I'm says it's a never ending schedule things. You have to do to keep yourself going on a day to day basis. Okay I mean I don't feel as well I'd like you know I don't get up. I've got a young daughter. That's a very athletic and loves to to move around You know obviously I wish I could move around better and chase her and do things but you know I have good days and have bad days but I mean there's not a day that goes by that I don't you know I don't feel thirty plus years on my body on but Of Fortunately learned over the last probably the last eight years. I started taking much better. Care Myself. I've dropped a ton of way which has helped a lot for the joints Eat Better I train. I tried to continue to train whether I'm getting ready for something or not where you know. Normally after I'd after an event out you know I'd take an extended amount of time off and then you know when you when you stop training and so you're you're good habits right and then you eat crappy food and so you know. That's I've learned. I've learned that the you know I gotta take better care of myself You know now to get the most out of this. I can't most allies. You know I mean I've I've run. The sponge. Pretty Dries Fars the wrestling aspect of it. But you know I've got a few years left here you know. Raise my daughter and and and it'd be a good dad would to her. Obviously I want to be able to. You know play sports weather and then do all that so I got to continue to deepen on man. There's a feeling after watching the wrestlemainia match of last month. Aj Style Bonar match that you have now extended your career as at accurate and did you enjoy. Did you like it as much as everyone else did? I mean obviously it wasn't It wasn't what I trained for. It wasn't what I was expecting to do. You know I mean. Obviously we planned on being and Raymond James Stadium. Eighty thousand people there I think we got you know we. We were fortunate in the sense that we go off site and not you know trying to have a matching in an empty an empty warehouse I was really proud of it. In the sense of how innovative it was It was half half wrestling match moody. It was once again. I felt like it paid off on the story. That was built the gauge things off of you know. I mean he crossed he crossed so many lines doing promos that it worked out better in the sense like in this is the way I think putting match together and and working like like I said he lines at nobody's ever crossed. You know talking about as talking about how old I was. You know all these different things so the promos that he got were so You know so you know deep in cutting like there's no way that I could have went in and had a you know I could have had a wrestling match right. I mean it had to be something like that to make it by off because that's how I would do. Things are real life you know. We'll take our can't thank you enough. I really appreciate the time. And congratulations on episode one. I can't wait for two three four and five and and thank you for answering a question that I've been wanting to ask you for quite some time. It's Here's been something that's been on my mind and now. I feel like a sense of relief. So thank you so much for this. I really appreciate and congratulations on everything. Make sure you were. You had nothing to do with it. You're I to come back on its own. Hey I would love it. You have an open invitation right now. I feel like I've taken up an hour of your time. I wanted to ask you about upcoming. Ufc fights in your favorite fighters. Do you want to give a? Who's your favorite fighter right? Now your to watch and see what. I don't know who I'm more impressed with Tony. Top or what? Yes and I WanNa see Beijing's light see Connor in that and boy DC. He'd be like the Donald. I will relay the message and these these Ereli them you know. Obviously you wanNA treatment in Britain. I think you know I think pressing him. Guess Cage. Dc hold home pretty good. I love you. I will relay that message. We we have a date next time. It'll be just you have see talk all right all right all the best to you. Thanks mad enjoyed it man. That was so much fun. I really enjoyed that. I was kind of nervous all day for that. What a nice guy and I really WanNa talk to him in the near future about fighting. Say No he's a huge fan. The connection Kinda got a little wonky there towards the end in. I could tell that he wanted to talk about and I wanted to talk about. Ma and there was so much more that I wanted to talk about but we only had so much time with him and he was out somewhere in the woods he told me beforehand and the connection was all that great so We we worked with what we thought. It was a great conversation. I really do recommend if you like the last dance. This last ride Docu series has been great and so I suggest checking that everyone loves the undertaker and Just what a nice guy I you know. I use the undertaker. My wife and I use the undertaker to scare our kids when they don't go to bed when they're just dilly-dallying dallying and playing video games or not listening to us we. I wanted to tell them this. We play his theme song and they go running up the stairs and so they all got a kick out of the fact that I was going to talk to him on Wednesday afternoon and there are a little freaked out about it all. I told him that he might come out of the screen and eat me. And Send Me. To Heaven's my kids. Don't call a cemetery cemetery. They called Heavens. At least my daughter does and So I told her was going to go to heavens but my wife didn't like that and gone to whole thing anyway. It was great to talk to the guy and I wish him. The best wishes family the best and he has really given us a lot of great memories. I love the fact that he's big may fan. If you notice. He wears gloves. He does go plot moves like the guy has really taken a lot from. May and it's been really cool to see that evolution over the years. It's also been great to see the evolution of Tst. He is world renowned. I was on his brothers radio show last week and there they are talking about him in Burlington Vermont like. He's some kind of celebrity so without further. Ado It's time for. Tst's minimalist tips of the week presented by our good friends over at modell setting the gold standard for authentic Mexican beer since one thousand nine hundred. Twenty-five modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. Minimalist tip of the week. I am no star Ariel. I'm seeing you everywhere you're on. Tv All the time last week sportscenter the Hawan show twenty four seven. You're on the radio all the time Saturday night. I just kept hearing you on the radio. You're everywhere you're on instagram live. You're getting interviewed on instagram. Live rather than doing the interviewing I know like you deserve a statue or something you know. I would like I would like more. If I'm being honest I would like more. I would like to be seen more. I'd like be heard from more You know it's not enough if you ask me. It's not enough but we are trying. Rome wasn't built in a day. You know all right so this week's tip so as we are all at home of course we have time to go through our possessions and I always love going through my wardrobe. I've probably go through my wardrobe every few months and so a minimalist. Wardrobe is a hot topic in the minimalist chat rooms. And so what I like to do is every few months. I look inside my closet and I look at each shirts or pants. Pair shorts whatever I asked himself. How often do I really wear this shirt? And if the answer is no or at the answer is really not that often then I donate it or give it to someone or sometimes at work we leave close out on one of the tables in the common area and it just give give away the I gave away a bunch of old basketball jerseys that had just for free to get it off my chest and it's such a which was players we talking about I Duke Fan. I no longer am. I had a Jalil Okafor Jersey gave away. Yeah Big Year Twenty fifteen. Do Love that team. I gave away my timber. Wolves Kevin Garnett Jersey. Exists wasn't wearing it and give away few Football Jerseys Colts Reggie Wayne Jersey. A bunch of random ones. Adrian Peterson Viking Jersey. And so what I kind of come to realize is. That's you just keep wearing your favorite clothes all the time so everything that I now own gets worn because they are my favorite clothes. And what I've really come to notice. Is that people really don't realize that you're wearing the same things over and over again. I kinda rotate between the same t shirts. In the same jeans. I only have about three pairs of jeans and rotate between them aware of them. You know to work back when we used to go onto. Campus used to wear those back to back days and no one would ever comment nothing. No one ever notices that. You're wearing clothes. We give people way too much credit in terms of observing. What we're wearing every day I could get by wearing the same outfit three days a week and no one would notice and I think as you assess your closets Taken consideration while you know this is actually of all the tips that you've ever offered us the the the words of wisdom. This is probably the one that hits home the most for me because I have a hard time giving away old closed. Not because I don't WanNA help out like I I if I go to a story now by S- a whole store for people I would do it. I get so emotional when it comes to close like oh I wore this for this moment I was a dad and my son and I went here while I was wearing this war this for this occasion and I feel like I'm killing that moment by giving it away. This is a big problem for me. I sort of argue but like my wife is is a lot more willing to get rid of her closed for some reason. I can't do it yet. The thing about not just close about anything they were getting rid of. When you're approaching minimalism. Is that whenever? There's some that has an emotional attachment to it or an attachment that you've described to it. It is difficult to get rid of in that moment it hurts. Because it's that memory it takes you back to a certain pleasant time in your life or whatever memory it is you've attached to it but I've noticed when I've gotten rid of things like that. Yeah it sucks. It sucks in the moment. It hurts and you maybe think about the rest of the day but two days later after that you totally forgot that you got rid of that thing. You don't even notice so that that's a muscle that you have to develop in just getting rid of things and just taking the emotions out of it because after you get rid. Read something way more often than not a days later. You don't even realize that you got rid of it in the first place words of wisdom right there. You know what I've noticed during this quarantine if you are we still in the quarantine phase the UFC is back does that. I don't even know if that applies anymore but we're opening up in Connecticut May Twentieth. I can't wait. Well there you go so I I guess. During the past two months of notices a Haven't worn a pair of jeans in two months and I don't know how I feel and I have to put on jeans again. A BE I tend to wear like the same three sweatshirts over and over again. So that's cheer point of. There's something comforting about them and See I I really need to do a better job of You know cleaning the house and do things like that on on on the daily because it can really build up and you know what? D- I'll give you a Detroit give you a D. T. S. T. You know what I think. I've been spending a lot of money on On haircuts and I feel like I can kind of get this done myself these days. I mean he takes pain to cut your hair. Oh I have a standing Tuesday appointment for like the last five six years. What's yeah is this person coming into your home. You're allowing an outside person into your home or you're saying whoa sorry. I thought you meant before I come on here. I've been can. We have a notice. I thought you were just insinuating that someone is coming to cut your hair. You've got your haircut. I didn't know that you were doing it. I'm saying whenever normalcy resumes. I just might stick with this. You know what I mean. I've been spending for the past ten or so years thirty to forty dollars. You know with the beard chairman all that on a haircut roller well I mean. That's what it is. I go to these places. Give you nice little fe. They that and you're out there with the tip of course as well you're talking about thirty four dollars and You know I don't know if I need to do that anymore. I haven't gotten a haircut in two months. I'm going crazy. Yeah exactly so you know I would suggest trying it out yourself and seeing if you can pull it off. We're not now I don't trust myself I I do have one question. So what do you wear? When you're getting all dressed up for these fancy schmancy sportscenter reviews. What are you wearing on the bottom Swap Really Yeah See. I could never do that fiery. Obviously I'll never be in your position you wearing the full suit. No I don't think you are but I just I can't do. I can't do that when we're doing the radio show or when we've done radio show. I get dressed up like I'm going to work because it just puts me in the work mindset so that I can do a good job. I couldn't do a sports hit from my home with his suit jacket on top pants on bottom. I don't think I could perform to the best of my abilities. That were I say I feel like I perform better. 'cause AM comfortable. Who doesn't feel good in sweatpants and A and B? I'm used to working from home. My career started wearing the exact same thing sitting at the same desk. You know using very similar equipment and just grinding like this. You're more of an office. Kinda guy you're more of a Guy Kinda guy that likes to interact with people and get the human touch pressure. I'm the kind of guy who I'm good at this if the rest of my career is this scenario right here. I never had more fun than I did on Saturday. Ahead my sportscenter camera setup to my ride of sitting at this very table where. I'm sitting at right now doing radio. I've got the TV to my left. I'm writing on my computer articles. I'm doing radio hits throughout the day. All from like the radius of three feet and I was loving it wearing a hooded sweatshirt and sweatpants and I couldn't have been happier I could not have been happier and let me tell you something if anyone ever sees me ever again. If you extend your hand for a handshake you will not get a handshake in return. Don't ever ask me for a photo at an event ever again. Don't ask me for a fist bump and elbow bump that has to be for all right. I'm just going to be walking around. And not interacting with anyone. I'm done with interaction now. You WanNA email tweet me. Demi won't do anything like that. I will respond within seconds human interaction I've done with. I can't wait to give you a hug when I see you next. Never I will never hug another human being ever again. Unless it's Daniel Cornmeal because we've got a real connection. He's teaching me a lot of things about life and shoes. You probably call the shoes. Don't you actually don't sneakers okay? I call them running shoes all right. I would normal but anyway. That's been fun. I appreciate everyone who continues to listen and enjoy that. Show download that show rate that shows prior to that show you that show got a little shoutout on first take on. Wednesday. That was nice other. They didn't mention the show itself. They called the area. Hawaii's which is a bit of a sore subject would DC. We shall address that next week on the program. Now that we're out a time. Thank you very much. You thank you very much to mark calloway. The undertaker amazing for joining us today. That was a blast. Thanks to everyone who tuned into the radio show called in as well thanks to his thanks to corporate jake for his help with the undertaker interview as well back on Monday. To talk about. Saturday's fights in Jacksonville. Catch up with my guy and who knows what else is going to happen between now though peace. I'm Outta here. Thanks for listening GEICO. 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UFC Jacksonville Preview Show w/ Laura Sanko

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

27:31 min | 5 months ago

UFC Jacksonville Preview Show w/ Laura Sanko

"You're listening to the bucks media podcast network well if you haven't recovered from Saturday nights wild. Ufc Two forty nine event. It is time to shake off those cobwebs because the UFC is back tomorrow night once again. Hello there everybody. I my CAC for and may fighting DOT COM. Welcome to the official. You have see Jacksonville preview. Show on enemy fighting and joining me live from Jacksonville. A couple of different people. I let us introduce. Sankoh is just so gracious with their time. Laura how are you? Have you recovered from two forty nine yet to be honest with you? I haven't I took all of Sunday and just kind of chilled and then I don't know I literally don't know what day yesterday my husband and I was talking to before I went to bed. He's what'd you today and I couldn't I couldn't even explain it. I don't know how I wasted an entire day but now I'm in the position I'm usually. I'm like wow I've got A. I have a lot of homework I need to do today and tomorrow. I'm going that a lot of jobs. I BET IT'S A. It's a crazy time in joining along for the ride during this crazy time. We also have fighting Jose young joining us as well embracing the grind per usual. How are you feeling on this? Tuesday Sir I forget what sleep is. I forgot what outside was But yeah it's weird situation. I mean in any other normal situation. Lord. I could do this in the same room together. But I know I was wireless. Oh yes. Social distancing is is the thing Oscar and I try to do the preview show. I don't even know what day was gather like fans were like walking up behind us and like looking at our camera and I'm just like six feet sixteen six feet while while they're doing the preview show so this is a lot safer obviously agreed. So let's let's get right into this thing. We have an intriguing main event in the light heavyweight division between a pair of former title challengers tomorrow night. Anthony Smith taken on Glover to Shera EPI Smith Story to get to where he's at today is just unbelievable to me. He's had the fight with John. Jones of the admits wasn't his best night at the office. Bounce back with impressive submission win against Alexander Gustafsen. And he's had to overcome just this gnarly hand injury that has taken them almost a year to recover for this return to the. Octagon over to. Shera has quietly won. His last. Three fights picked up a hard-fought split decision. Win Over Keita Krylov. In his last fight Laura. This is an interesting fight at two hundred and five pounds to cap this event office. Not It is a very interesting fight. What's interesting to me is is. They're both these like grizzled veterans. One of them's just happened to be a lot younger than when I mean I. I'm from the Midwest Anthony Smith from the Mid West. I've been watching Anthony fight for very long time. And it seems like he should be fifty years old based on the number of fights. He has But you don't get much more of a resume in terms of the U. OF C. You look through glover to share his step policy and it's just like like a like a hall of fame roster basically he has literally fought everyone. This division has had to offer for very long time in terms of like took I love it. I absolutely love it. I think that The Anthony Smith. I'll say I think. Anthony Smith has the most underrated Jujitsu in the UFC. And we go over to share. It has phenomenal Jujitsu for this way division. They both can. They both could bang. I just think that it's possible that glover to share his age is going to catch up to him. A little bit Anthony's have really good natural athlete. The thing that I don't even want to say concerns me but the X. Factor. I guess that will be perhaps explained On on Saturday on Wednesday night Maybe when I get a chance to talk to him I WanNa know how much this the quarantine has affected anthony. I know that he actually has come. And trained in glory quite a bit. Because James Krause and Martin Montoya are basically mirrors of each other. There were all sort of like one family so he's had a can't be a great camps but the home invasion part of it and the psychology of that stress that that puts on your family. I know he's kids have been sleeping with him. I have tried to sleep with little kids before. And you don't sleep I know it sounds like kind of a random thing to sort of throw into a what could play a role in fight but you also have demanded that he spent I think what he described as five or seven minutes reading the brakes off some guy without any gloves on and I find it hard to imagine that there wasn't any residual lake stress from that for him. You know a lot of interesting things to unpack their Laura. Jose one thing that Laura mentioned that sticks out to me is that Anthony spent does have that underrated ground game. He's known more for his power on the feet and knocking guys out but his ground game is super legit. He's a black belt. And that's something. A lot of people. Overlook heading in this by global of course is known for his ground game. I think that sticks out to people more than anything but when you look at this fight what sticks out to you the most when you think of this matchup tomorrow night. Why guys hit on the head. He by far has the most underrated great games in the division I mean he was on the UC quintet team in December. When I was at and he I think he went up against Jay Z. Cavalcante at one point and he went to draw. It's not like he was. He was out classroom submitted. Anything so And I remember vividly lead up to the John. John's fight when I talked to him he goes Jitsu Guy and John Jones is not so that is the one spot I think I can take advantage of. So you're not wrong. Globe to sheriffs. Also Hudson's Uber impressive. Submission wins of the both of knockout power. So I really like this. I like this matchup that it's it's not to do just like we all talked about land for Doom. Olympic how it was like a Jujitsu practitioners like like dream for the heavyweight division like Francis and Ghana and Judo Santos where you know. Someone's going to sleep or like Tony Ferguson just engage you just going to be like a bus on a chip running at each other like these guys can like if say one of them is win stand up and one of them shoots for a takedown down like no. This fight could go anywhere and it's pretty much evenly split so it's one of these super fascinating fights where no one really has the advantage everywhere. Because they're both so good. It's just a high level martial arts competition title implications outlook. I would watch these guys. Spar I watch these guys grappling excited. So it's too evenly matched a elite level martial artists. That are just GonNa throw down for twenty five minutes. I cannot wait. Laura's circle are well aware of we always look forward to the fight itself boy also tend to to look ahead and think about what's next with two hundred and five pounds being pretty interesting at the top with John Jones and Dominic Reyes and John Behove. It's to get your thoughts. Laura on what's at stake with this event between Anthony Smith and gloves to share. Where does the winner go from here? Well I definitely. That's a tough one because anthony obviously having already fought John and it's not a fight that he looked great in and he's I think you said in the intro. He's the first one that will tell you that. That's definitely an outlier in my book. I actually. I wouldn't mind seeing that fight again but I'm also close with Anthony so I I'm minorly biased in terms of I wanNA see him get that back because I I really do think it would look a lot different but John does that to a lot of people in terms of moving forward. You know I think I want. I also WANNA see Dominic Gray as John Jones to like. It's such a tricky situation. This is why I'm glad I'm not a matchmaker because I think Anthony. Interestingly Anthony's Ranked number four. He was three and he dropped. Four Man. If Glover Wins. It's a global wins. It's a little bit different. But when if Anthony Wins then you have this like Emma Math circle at the top of the division. And I don't have a great answer. Crew is my answer. What do you think goes? I mean anthony sort of mentioned it yesterday on the Virtual Media Day that Tiago Santos is a fight that sticks out to him because Tiago is GONNA be coming back. They fought at one eighty five. We know how that one went. Do you think that's sort of where this leads to of Anthony Smith Wins? And then furthermore what happens if? Glover wins? It's hard. It's I hate looking past fight because for all we know this is an insane fight and they both get six month suspensions and then like who cares where they find next because it won't be till like the winter or fall or even early twenty anthony. Smith had the biggest one girl rounds at Augusta and that was last June. And he's just coming back so for all. We know some hurt but I agree with you. I like the Jackson Five Yamba Mehovic. John Wants to fight him Ratchet I don't think has a FI vulcan is out there. He doesn't have a fight. I know the glover. Just had the win over Krylov. So there's not there's not fights there's obviously fights to make a two hundred five pounds but I want to see the rays rematch really bad. I was scared I've for that. I WANNA see Raised Jones. Bad the winner. This could Fi- John. I don't think that's fair yawn but it also I personally scored the fight for dominic so we could be just saying like Oh Dominic. Reyes one he get John. Jones gets being meteorology. That's all I'm looking at it So I like I like the raised Jones fight and the winner gets yawn but again it's it's hard to say in the current climate of the UFC of wave if you could even get into the country if he has to fight on fight island wherever that is so. There's there's a lot of questions than answering before we can fantasy matchmaking. This this division absolutely comb event in the heavyweight division. Your Ben Rothwell taking on over in saint pro. Yes the same. Sp who fought for the interim light heavyweight title against Jon Jones a few years ago but what was interesting about Oh espn wayans weighed waiting at two hundred forty and a half pounds like he outweighed more than half of the other heavyweights he alvin. He always three heavyweights on the car. It's unbelievable father doom. I had to listen to to make sure that to forty point five was correct. I go on twitter. Make sure that was correct and everyone had it that way but we have to powerful guys who both have signature submissions rothwell with the Gogo von Pru. Jose we'll start through your thoughts on tomorrow night's heavyweights Komen events. I love it We had been Roth along the a side and he has this. Yes this thing world for whatever reason he gets matched up with a lot of light heavyweights coming up like Crisanto. Since key in the I was a fell. He knocked him out like thirteen seconds and then he fights brandon varying knocks. Third round gets matchup with John. Balante that fight falls out. It gets matched up with the same. That's what are they keep giving you. Heavyweights he goes probably because they think suck and they just want advantage of those are his words. So I'm super excited for this fight Ben Rothwell said that every fight. He's in he gets better. Which the guy fought Tim. Sylvia two thousand three and like getting better and in Saint is Seems to be one of those guys that people keep saying all this guy could be good. You could be good if he goes to Real Jim but he stayed loyal to his. Jim and I'm really interested to see if this division because he didn't look bloated or fat. He looks like built at at heavyweight I'm super excited for this fight. If the winner of this fight taps the other one would there. Like if if over impro- submits Ben Rothwell with Avant Flute Girvan Pooja That's mission the like. Just lock it in right now. So I after interviewing Ben he really sold me on this fight just because he he probably thinks I suck it up slow and I'm GONNA Wrong so I am super excited for this fight to say the least I know. Go ahead sorry no you know. I want to hear what you have to say about this before I follow up with you well. I'm just going to say I'm actually excited about it. To have heard a lot of people were like this is the domus match. I like it. I think it's fun because it's so unexpected right and like you was a meal like okay. How is always P von Flue von? Pru How is he going to do this? And I guess the question to me is like can't he can't even take down right Kenny. End Up on top. And he's done it. This is the thing this is what I love. It's what I love about Alexia Lennick. Everyone knows as good as Nikiel choke. Everyone knows it and it still happens. It still happens like clearly. You spent time in camp working on that. Clearly Ben Rothwell however long a camps had whatever type of campaigns had has thought about this in his head. Will it happen. We've seen it happen before and I'm Kinda dying to see what goes on with that. Obviously that specific dynamic but os peas. I hate breaking down. I hate it because there's no no patterns. I feel like I can find in the way that he fights the way that he wins the way that loses. It seems he wins so many fights that I don't expect him to. Then he loses fights that I don't expect him to and Ben Rothwell is a jain enormous human being and that's a lot of weight to try to take down and leaner shoulder into their neck. But Ben Rothwell is not nearly as athletic as p not nearly as fast. No offense Ben and if if OS PECAN I dunno can keep them busy. Maybe Challenge Challenges Cardio a little bit I feel like I could get it done but God it's it's I match up. I like it. I mean to to follow up. Laura you've worn the fighter half before and with S. P. taken this jump up not having cut weight and of course he's going to have to mind as PS and QS with a powerhouse like Ben Rothwell but do you think he heads into this fight. A little looser with a little less pressure than usual. Yeah well that's actually the thought I had because when I first saw that I thought. Oh Gosh he's going to be so undersized and anyone CBS' undersides against Ben Rothwell but as you pointed out Jose. He looks good on a scale. He looked thick with the double scenes in. He looks strong and thick. And that to me says that in the past when we've seen him he has been cutting a lot of water and we'd be cut a lot of water you get Cheney and that's something that people sometimes you know said about. Osb's that you can. You can touch them and put him down if we see of Os peas Chen movement just overall comfortably which is not a word in a fight. I think we could really see a fun. A fun fight with a guy who may have been belonging had to wait for a while. Now it's a very interesting matchup but I think the fight that I have circled on this. Outside of the event takes place in one hundred and fifty five pounds and then guarantee of Alexander. Judo that is Mike Fight? If I ever saw absolutely I mean it really sticks out to me drew's been in the AFC. Since two thousand thirteen he continues to evolve and get better. He worked with just engaging extensively they were both preparing to compete around the same time. And he's coming off a huge win over over. Nazareth hospital that Nasty knock-out and then you have Alex Hernandez who was sort of thrust into the fifteen after knocking open. Neil dare UCHIDA's debut had the win over a Libya. Aben mercy had the setback against Donald Cerrone and then picked up the win over Franscisco Tornado. Interesting fight at one fifty five here. Laura what are you looking for between Alexander Hernandez and Drew Dover? I love this fight. I think it's going to be an absolute banger that Alex Hernandez such a tough position to be put in. When you do something pretty cool and then you just get set on this rocket ship. That maybe you're not entirely into prepared for and I think that this is a really well matched fight. I love his wrestling in this fight. 'cause the times we've seen judo we're get a little bit of trouble. It's been on the canvas but drew Dover Can Bang Dude over can knock a lot of people he's got. I don't know I've got the stat running around here somewhere. But he's got a super high knocked down rate and he's coming off those two knockouts that you just mentioned. Mike Judah over super durable on the feet but I feel like. I don't know I feel like Hernandez is GonNa do a good job of pushing pace. And that's he's he's exciting but he also can grind when he really needs to he pressures forward and once he closes the distance he just grinds grinds and grise puts a pace on people. And if you when you're predominantly a striker like drew over is you also have a favored type of cardio typically so you can strike for hours and feel great. You could throw hard kicks. You'll great but when someone starts wearing on you on the canvas or worse yet taking you down let me backup taking you down letting back up a guy my gym grant Dawson. That is like the king of that. The King of just killing your up. Down Cardio. I feel like that's something that Alec. I could see Alex doing here. Slowing him down a little bit takeaways power. I don't I don't know fi necessarily. I don't know who I see winning but I think it's going to be an amazing fight Jose. What's interesting here as well as that. To sort of add Laura just said like your dober- has been in the game for a while. He made his debut when Alex Hernandez was cutting his teeth on the regional seen as like a nineteen twenty year. Old Kid and allosaurus spoke about this during the day yesterday. He feels like he still sort of a mystery right now that his opponents the fans they can't really put their finger on who. Alexandra's is as a fighter yet. How much does that factor into this? Fight in your opinion It I mean it. Definitely put like he hit on the head. I'm trying to like when Laura's talking what we both know judo vers predominant strike over like what kind of fighter is Alexander Hernandez. I can't put him in a category like he definitely grinded out win over. Oem but then he got up by Donald and everyone gets up by Dallas Aronie and to me like he came out like a bat elegant. Neil dare us. And there was some controversy around that fight with the glove that he then wasn't a glove touch that he said But he like if you didn't know that and you just saw how cared himself you just assume this kid's been fighting forever. This guy carrying himself like seasoned veteran like the language and the way he formulated sentences is family is fat. I don't know why but it super fascinating to me like on the virtual Muda. He's like I can't envision anytime. I'm not a problem for him or something like that. I was like what a weird way to say that I can beat him anywhere It's just I don't know if I'd favor him. I this is a fifty fifty five from judo. Looked really really like CRISP AGAINST NAZRAN LAST. But like you said like Nazar through a real lays kick and didn't have his hands up. Andrew Dover took advantage of that I don't think house Internet is the type of finding to make those mistakes especially in the middle of a firefight against your dog. So I don't know who's GonNa win And that this is this is i. Love this for that reason It's these two guys that I think are meeting at the perfect time They they look like if you just show me their bodies they look exactly the same to me. So yeah I I'm I'm not as about as much as cavs though no one has Matt Serra my have over sketched Basser by the only one that could challenge. You Jobs Casper. You're not wrong I am. It's two different kind of guys to stare. Downs and Drew doors cheese in the whole time and I was in her hands is like that and they like judo real. Shake his hand and walks away. Saw that coming. I knew was going to try that and I knew Hernandez GonNa pull that so. Yeah I don't know who's going to win but it soon fascinates me up completely. Never has such a baby face but to your point Mike like he has been fighting forever. Another Midwest Guy and I actually thought on a card with him. I was imagery fought on Titan and He fought with my teammates. But like he's been around he's been around the game a long long minute and I love him training with Justin to that having teammate. That's getting ready for a huge fight. The biggest fight of their career makes all the difference in the camp and Hernandez been camps since like January first so he's been camphor almost almost five months now but I was. I was at judo dovers. I ever use you win against Jamie. Varner bar knocked himself out and that seems like it was ten years ago and it was. It was two thousand. Fourteen doesn't thirteen thousand Phoenix. A judo WPR like losing streak. If he lost you is probably going to get cut in the Jimmy knocks himself out. Kinda got lucky on now. That seems a long time ago to make a lot of interesting match on this car and I know it's not as deep as to forty nine paper but as you know Jose I like to search for that quasi needle in the haystack on these fight cards. The one that people aren't really looking at that could potentially steal the show. So what checks off that box for you heading into tomorrow night I would be doing a disservice if I didn't bring up this ajar. You Bring Sarah Morris. I know our Alex Davis are Cameroon. At stored in air always likes to highlight the women's mixed martial arts fights or as she likes to call them just makes much fight. Stood don't don't have to attach I'm a bank is obviously a polarizing figures. Morris is is coming off a missed weight but she made the way so I have to sit circle on that one. Anytime you get one hundred and thirty five pounds Fight in the UFC Because a man who has been so dominant has been knocking off so many contenders of seems like same as one twenty five or one forty. Fives is another conversation but like those two wake causes. Every fight seems so important. Because they're not running out of contenders just the match like one win is basically keeping you in that top ten top five Ranji. One loss could be a huge detriment so it might not be the most exciting in terms of the actual fight but the stakes that it could lead to are super important for both women again. Like one twenty five one thirty three wins in a row for Title. So everyone is important. Everybody's important circle eubanks Morris as Laura. What's yours I like the Omar Morales? Gabriel Benito's fight a lot of Omar's obviously new to the sees one another in the AFC. But he's coming off the contender series and he was one of those guys. I was really surprised that Dana picked up just because of his age. He had a phenomenal phenomenal win. But there was always kind of thought and I think Dana even set it. I don't remember what season. But he kind of said you know we're looking for. This is the contender series. Right and you think of contenders is being young bucks on the come up. And but he fits that in terms of his record. I mean nine no undefeated. He's a puzzle that has yet to be figured out looked great in his last night and what. I like about this fight for him. Is the weight class. I don't know that I like the idea of Gabriel Benitez who is obviously naturally a feather weight taking on one of the bigger lightweights. I've ever seen Omar Morales really really thick guy. Fantastic kickboxing background. And it is those kicks I mean gave Benitez throws hands. He's got amazing. Boxing really really solid solid striking defense. But the kicks of Morales are another thing to contend with them. When you add the fact that he's going to be the much bigger fighter the longer fighter just I. I'm worried that Benitez is going to have a little bit of a tough time. Getting in getting into range. But the thing why I say that is the fight to watch. I mean I keep saying I'm making it sound like I'm making it. Sound like Ralph Law amount. I don't think he's GonNa blow amount out. I just think it's going to be a super super super exciting striking match. Because even when he's even when he's down you know Benitez brings it every time even in his last night when he thought to USA there was a moment in that fight where he almost had you know Siddiqui Outta there. So you can't just look at someone's record you gotTa Kinda know humbled with. This is such an aside. You guys wouldn't it. Be Cool if on tap allergy or whatever. There was like a a meter that came along especially for decisions or unanimous. Was this a close unanimous. Was this a controversial split? Was this like an obvious split. Was this a blowout was a close fight. I wish there was a little rating scale. Sorry to digress. But anyway changing anime decisions icon and tap merged into one. I like it. I like both of those picks I think after today and after the wait miss baby cavers Barbara Tori sticks out to me because are Josh Jackson when they were staring off. But I gotta say I got my eye on the curtain Jerker in the heavyweight division. Chase Sherman is back. It's going to take on the thirty six year old newcomer Villanueva. Both these guys are in a hair. They both have finished. Wins Over Rashad Coulter. I have a hard time believing that this one is an exciting and may not be the most technically sound fight you ever see but this one doesn't end in a Finnish. I I just can't shake my head anymore. Shave Sherman former bare knuckle heavyweight champion. Mind you who lost his style to Joey Beltran. So that's no slouch right there. Wrong sure Laura before we let you go and I appreciate the time very much Jacksonville. Since Thursday of last week I believe. How would you describe the vibe right now with everything going on in the world? Is it what you expected it to be or is it sort of way beyond your expectations heading in with how things have gone down at this point? I don't think I even could Im- I don't think I had expectations because I just. This is all so new and I've been. I've been very impressed with how things are have been run. I really have It's it's weird because on one hand like you keep hearing social distancing social distancing and that's not happening every moment of everyday for everyone but I'm of the mind that like I'm of the mind that it doesn't have to. We've all been tested. We've all been here. I frankly I guess I feel safer here than I feel. Many other places in the world right now given the protocols that they've put in place It's it's different. It's different like my setup for fight night for you have C. To forty nine was strange and hard to deal with with the audio issues that we were experiencing and stuff but my overall takeaway is that everyone is really proud and excited to be here in. The energy is wallets. It's like you don't know what to expect. You don't quite know what the rules are at all times at various places in Jacksonville Everyone's just psyched to be back in to see each other and proud to be getting this show on the road again. Quite literally share. Ufc Two four nine set a very high bar for the rest of the year. But Laura Sanco everybody kind enough to join us on the UFC Jacksonville preview. Show here on finding DOT COM prelims. Tomorrow night kick off at six. Pm Eastern time on ESPN plus made about once again in the light heavyweight division Anthony Smith versus glover to share. We'll have you covered before during and after the event. Jose is our boots on the ground in Jacksonville. Making it all happen for the Great Laura Sanco and Jose Young. I might can work on my here. I can't keep up with Jose. We'll we'll see you tomorrow night as we work on our side throwing stacks. You're listening to the vox media log as network.

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GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 97: May Fights Continue

GSMC MMA Podcast

1:08:54 hr | 5 months ago

GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 97: May Fights Continue

"Need your daily fix on Mixed Martial. Arts recap. Bela Tor one fifty. Five scene. One Ninety who out of a controversial decision. Who's not I couldn't figure out. Why don't you fret because golden state media concepts your daily dose of Anime podcast everything from the US or fighting Jimmy extreme cage victim fighting champ such join us as we talk about some of the biggest names in mix martial arts? We've got you covered here on. Golden STATE MEDIA CONCEPTS EMANATE PODCAST. And thank you for tuning into GSM see MMA. Pot brought FUBOTV podcast and I'll say it again. I hope you are doing fine for yourself. You're healthy you your friends your family your all fine whether you live in the states or internationally you're all healthy during a time of major uncertainty and so you see to Friday night just happen unless episode reviewed every that happened four four nine. It is a great show. I recommend everybody to go watch it. Just engage cheever's. Tony Ferguson. Was great my underrated. Fight of the night would be nico price was say percent require. That was a great fight as well as a night full of controversy and a night of major events happening in the world mixed martial arts from Henry retirement to the surprise victory of just engaged. I recommend everyone to go wash. Ufc Two forty nine. If you haven't yet look up the fights look up more news about the event because overall it was a really good it was a really great show honestly and even the polls press conference when I was asked. Well how did other people respond to to forty nine? I was really interested in that. Because yes pnn Disney. They themselves directly told. The A light. Hey girl is not going to be a UFC. Two forty nine happening in California but then apparently according to the phone call from the from his high ups and they said Oh it was great. It was a great success and they give him praise so good for the white for being able to push you to continue to happen and it was a great car to might be the best hard of the entire entire year so far and might be the best car the air and might have the second or third best fights of the year at my kitchen. Are You WANNA checkers? While was better than Twenty Ferguson Position Bridge just gateway but it also save where versus Nico Price was also a great fight. And I think it's one of the best you should look out there even know liquid and Nico Price. Aren't the most popular fighters out there? If you want to see something similar to gatekeepers ferguson except more more two sided where both fighters are going back and forth. I recommend that fights so if you have see two four nine here now we have fight nights Smith versus Here I'M GONNA I'm GonNa talk about all the appeal the appeal and the me card fights here so got chase. German RISI's building the waiver hunter observers Brian Kello- Gabriel. Benitez Omar Morales eubanks. Lucero says Michael Johnson. Good morning says if you're an offense Michael Johnson Iraq and deal everybody's been is a fun fight although he is placed in journeyman position already. Michael Johnson's excited fighter. And I expect to lose honestly against the choices but expect to be a really fun Andrew. We'll fight and the main events for the pre card here is Andrea loss versus Phillip. Lynes that's GonNa be fun fight. Every fight was a lofty is a fun one as always and then go to the main card here we got Karl Roberson versus Marvin Vittoria. Then we got ricky. Simon Ray bore Greek. I'm Rosario Borg in my personal opinion. Could be the fight of the night in my opinion ricky. Seven raybird are two very underrated fighters to very quick very smooth. Great animators could run game fire fighters so I say a rookie. Steiner's Ray Borugu might be that the night of this entire car here. That's my prediction hopefully turns out great. I think it's really great lightly about here between Alexander Hernandez versus drew dober- Alexander night is. I'm still sold on Hernandez really. I really am Hernandez that guy who gets it. If you'd have Gelson Kobe Covington and Benazir there's like Watch Alexandra Fernandez the Oh this Hernandez Kid. He gets it. He's GonNa be big in the AFC and if you're a hardcore fan of mixed martial arts New Might Look Auxerre Hernandez and you might see like copycat. Kobe COVINGTON'S COPYCAT HASSARD copycat chills. Where this dude this amid car slash Lower Carter? Who talks a big game in because he talks a big game? He ended bypassing his way. Pass a lot of fighters up fighting in a top tier fighter. The highest he ever bought was running and that pretty much right now. Gone Youtube type up down. Or if you just have a gun. Iran is. You're going to see his matchup against Australia. And the Videos House called Don's Sironi humbles Alexan- Hernandez and it pretty much like three minutes of Hernandez talking trash to Sironi. And then when the fight actually happens. They're only completely dominated him he really does and that as many clean shots. Surani against those shots just didn't really matter to the end here and it certainly pretty much before of him and then Alexander Hernandez fight His last bites he fought. Get somebody who participated in the salacious book. When I saw the fights Hernandez should've lost by and said he ended up winning the fight via decision and it was a very controversial victory. Because you see you look at her opponents who is Brazilian and it's all clean all. He's not even breathing. Heavily and these Alexandra Fernandez looks tired. Who LOOKS GAFFES? Helix defeated his his. His face bloodied up. He's all sweaty and stuff and then when it's announced Alexander Hernandez one. He gives the shocked face. The shock of Michelle Waterson and caused Mars like both have when it was announced as a really I one or like really the happened interesting. I am surprised. Alexandra is is has gone this far. He's eleven to he's lemon so I really wish that he doesn't try to copy. He's trying to copy the Kobe. Covington's and the Conor McGregor I recommend fighters to be like really to be themselves even interviews. He tends to play a character which is really upsetting to me. It's fun if you're the juggler she'll Sunan is that we know that's not actually him and we know he's a wrestling van Alexander Hernandez though obviously comes across as a guy who's very desperate and in need of attention and I don't I don't respect that aspect and forgo becoming item respect the fact that he's a great fighter and that he was able to fight his way to the top five and compete with the very best in the top five Hernandez. I'm not really sure if your trash if you're need to talk trash and he is able to have a three or four or five win streak and top five then. I respect them but for now. I don't really think so. Heavyweight event Ben Rothwell versus vein Saint Pru or p making his debut in the heavyweight division good for Os p good for him if you look at O. Espn as lead have read bouts. He is really slow. He's easily outmatch outgunned towards Every fighter in the light heavy division. Here I don't when I looked at. Ospf I keep bites away too slow. He fights way too slow he he he gets out. He gets that way too easily for light. Heavyweights also comes across the very big. He's a very big fired. He's a very big striker and light. We hit in division though. He doesn't really kind of comes across a frail my opinion so me and my friends have discussion about this. What is a frail wheel so frail will? Is this really big large spider. That doesn't come across. That doesn't come across as a large big her. That's how I view so S. P. in all those doubts and light-heavyweight except the John Jones fight he comes across as so much bigger than other opponents like in terms of like muscular size like his posture. He comes across as so much bigger than his opponents but when he starts fighting head cakes punches he'd just come across as he is so slow that he's fighting more slow than the division want them to fight and so by the heavy. That's going to be really interesting to look at me. Give me finding Ben a veteran and the heavy division. I have no clue. GonNa win in this fight. I gotTA SAY OH P. Is going to defeat Ben. Rothwell in this match up here. Just because fighters are both coming off losses and so I say oh speed is gonNA feed Ben Rothwell the base. I think when somebody when fighter moves up most of the time when if I'd moves up or change the way classes they had the second win or the sense of rejuvenation with them because the wait could isn't as damaging towards oers P P always looks really tired in all his fights before it even starts. He looks like exacerbated so always be not cutting that much way to might be more comfortable. Fighting heavyweights competitive. Advert have been walked rottweiler. Who's been fighting at Herod for a long time? And I think it's I think it's one of the game to ban he's been he's been going going down the heavy division for a while now and then we've got the main event here which could be clearly be fireworks there. We have Anthony Smith Glover to share. This fight is gonNA be really exciting. I predict despite to end off going and a second round or early of third round via. Tko I know people are down Anthony Smith or not impressed by Anthony Smith especially if you look at the performance against John. John's but that's John Jones. John Jones is maybe the greatest. Almost every podcast. Right namedrop somebody for being the greatest of all time because arguably John Jones might be the greatest of all time. There's a huge aspects to John Jones but Anthony Smith does have the ability. Ns skills to go and take on somebody like in the likes of Glover to share an and Alexander. Gustafsson the problem. Those John was such a good fighter that he pretty much all fight. Anthony's was his game here. So share Anthony Smith. This could really go either way here. Say Clip Really. I'm not really sure who's GonNa win this fight and coming up short break. I'll be covering some more news right here. The GMC MMA podcasts. 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Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know we're to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast and welcome back. It was reported that the fight between Your IRA jockeying around. Those up was canceled. Because dockery was tested for shocking. It happened the nights. The nights before to frame happened and it was the absolute worst case. Scenario could imagine the good thing was able in the AFC was able to prevent jock Rosa into getting into the octagon in the night of nine. Getting with says it because if you were to go out there because if as over nineteen and he still performed ooh man. I can't I can't. I can easily imagine all the events happening. You may be in canceled. It would be a complete. Pr Disaster and we wouldn't see mixed martial arts for a while we wouldn't and only that big dinner. My God called by several commissions athletic organizations talking about hey how do you get from happening on the NBA NHL NFL? All the commissioners called White Day noise of this himself. He had people call them and they were asking him. Hey how were you able to successfully run the show? What was the process? How do you do this? How do you do X. Y? And if they don't work that led directly so's out continue to fights onto your city for nine and that it was made that he had he had called nineteen that things could have ended really badly for the and we wouldn't expect to us he shows happening in May and we also expect. Sports show was happening anytime soon. So good thing for dinner. I M the AFC for following the proper health procedures. That was big scare happening when talking about yesterday an IT'd be there shouldn't be any event happening at offer sports because if a fighter where to be sick then and you'll make other fighters sick and will create huge calamity. Things will get worse. Guess what the Internet was able to go and make sure that doesn't happen. He's able to follow medical health procedures. Any preventative use crossing from happening. So good for him to doing that though. It is reported here by Yahoo Sports the DVD from health and safety plans numerous times at UFC to rename this coming in from from Chris. Quick as of May Thirteen twenty twenty. You'll see two was supposed to send an example for all other sports league if handled. Well the event want the events one of the first to take amid the current vitamin DEMOC could have been a blueprint for other least follow him while you actually to offer that many hitches. The event wasn't exactly a safe. You actually deviated from a number of safety. Procedures was opposed to follow the events. According to Kevin Drafter of the New York Times. The Times acquired a twenty five page document which outlined all the health and safety precautions. You take for you have to forty nine commentator. Ger Rogan was a major part of those deviations as insisted on shaking hands with every fighter. Including a you on Saturday. You'll see to forty nine. Just engaged in rogan. Shuman have touched let alone stood within sixty two there. Were supposed to be no face to face in octagon or backstage interviews. According to the plan instead of any reason be conducted via with interviewers or commentators will be stationed in a separate Rena zone the head of the events that it will not permit interviews inside the octagon during two wrapping up the televise events that the analyst Dan Corner explain how Rogan had received mission to interviews that violated social guidelines. You threw a fit before the show. Cormie said the Rogan. This is insane. Everyone's been tested. Were all clean president. Dino and also ignorance to protocols refused to wear a face mask and gloves while those involved with the event felt it was safe for and then go off without signature you a day before the event weren't although Jock. We saw in two of his quarterback tested positive for coronavirus