19 Episode results for "Alex Perry"

Alex Parry

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

26:44 min | 10 months ago

Alex Parry

"Last nine. Stood at your doorstep. Trying to figure out warwick. You, just let something to palm the you. Could Smell Sandy Green. Boom Medicine Nice guy was glow. In the distance I can see town. Was Long. Long. No FOAMY GONNA BE LONG Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of settling Bruce Your podcast. All about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly is fans I am your host Jesse Jackson. But today we're kind of on the Bruce train but were also mostly talking about other music and joining me today is Alex Perry Thanks to the wonders of skype We're doing another time. He Wind me episode where it's my morning, his afternoon but Alex welcome to the show. Pens. Does he? So. For my honest tell tell them a little bit about yourself. Well I'm UH twenty, nine years old. Live in Norway and Record Music at home writing songs saying there was more active. Earlier but still keeps me going. Yeah I was GONNA start out with I. Thank You I. Don't think I've ever had anyone from Norway. A country can check off by List both how you've been doing during this pandemic, our things going there in Norway and you personally. Of course, aware time all but For me you know I. Still had my job and everything like that I work at a daycare against. So of course. We were shut down for a month, but we were still some kids with parents sober critical critical jobs. So you know, you'll have the job. Norway's handling good i. gave him though. You know there's certain. Social distancing everything here too but. Things seemed to be going the right way for now the Z.. Will fat is good to here I I'm sure you incorporate music is in the daycare right when you're taking care of the kids, is that a big part of what you do there? Homes. I get to use. My word to. Very nice. Very nice. All right. So I always like to start at the beginning Alex talk to me about growing up What kind of music did your family listen to you? What did you listen to as a kid. Will I don't really recall walk you know my mom and dad were listening to necessarily the words listening new actively to music. I. Jesus for years older than the poison. Sliced Euros I. Had you know, of course, some kid music when I was growing up but the first of real band that I listen to was the offspring. That kind of being elected reface trucks saying. That was kind of the what spoke to you I, write that you made your own. Yeah. They're very cool. Very cool and as you started growing up and going into high school and other did did your music tastes expand and? You. Talk to me a little bit about that. Yeah the offspring was the first firsthand, but it's not the most important to me started really nice guy into Europe Start listening them. Got Really into them and a couple of years after into them they Made a comeback and made new albums and they're still still still going out. From them from interviews from them, you know I heard about other bands that didn't know about that in Lesean UFO. So I got a lot of input from them to in expanding arises. Yeah. kind of like almost cousin bands like if hey, like on. Amazon. Says if you like this, you might like that and so That's interesting. When did you? When? Did you have an interesting creating your own music like it did you start playing guitar early? Did you talk to me a little bit about how your interest in making music started? Yeah, there was always, it's hard my house because my dad wasn't playing active liberty are done. It's earlier and the G. Talk meeting with the I chord and taught me some stuff there. So I guess I learned the first basic things on deterrent eighty, six years old but then. I didn't do it actively But when I started writing songs I guess I was nigger on was really early but that was tars was more making fun songs making. It just moved from there actually. Into this interesting I had. I had someone on about a month or so ago you know when she talked about that, she wasn't almost. into like high school before she even thought about writing a song. And then but I've had I have a good friend named Sarah who similar to you like she says, she can never not remember making up songs even if they're silly, you know do not just your non sense words. But as a kid, she just always had that site I always think that's interesting As. Is You're starting to get older did I did the song and become more serious? Did you try to work on it more or is this? Tell me about win that kind of switch from just doing little silly things too when you actually tried to hey, let me see if I could do something good at this. like I said at the beginning it was just. Making silly cover versions of songs in just vocals separate quarter. But when I got around maybe Twelve thirteen and started getting more and more into Brunson Guitar actually learning for real. Spending more time on it. Also, the good friend of mine. Then we started you know for me at the end the two of us in having dreams. Jenolan listening to Europe Daniele less than the US Lemay on the. Creating more songs to get better at the crafts. Which you say Europe is by far your biggest influence. That's that's interesting What? When you guys started your band what what kind of gigs did you play? Well we wouldn't play exact slogan just. Just didn't home in A. Credit songs. We didn't know anybody else who played music listening hand nobody else at school Brian really didn't like that. So. For a long time, you know it was sneak in him and I. Later when we got around fifteen sixteen seventeen in started, recording, learning more about that I recorded drums, keyboards, bass, and the need to retire. We had vocals so. I wrote the melodies lyrics. To sing them. As always was it was like that for a long time and We it wasn't until we were like twenty three real together when he started music school of Ed. did you go to our arguments you into music school? That's what you did for secondary education or? Yet I mean, my friend will to La. In two thousand eleven to he went to. The tar M is schooling. And the recording of course. So we were there for a year and then. Was There Was a big culture shock living in La. Coming from there or was it just because you're focused on music? It was all kind of the same. I mean, of course, it's different, but it's not a culture shock because I mean for one, the cultures are. Is the western. Of course pretty similar endlessly no old. The TV shows than. You Kinda know and I've only occasion. So you kind of know the deal but. Of course, it's it's different but a really cool down. Eric Cool so now that you geyser. You. You guys got your your twenties. You've gone to school. You start you decide you want to take this little serious. even though you've got a day GIG, you're also kind of working on this. Correct. Yes Oh the last couple of years. It's been less music but I'm still up still kept it going in a special. Of alike, recording mixing songs and The doing covers you you. You know you have a good song don't have to worry about the quality of the song -essarily student can just. Focus on practice on the recording. So. The base. Yes Oh The reason I found you is you did a version of springsteen's long walk home. Talk to me about you know when did you first? Find Bruce and what about his music spoke to you would you call yourself a springsteen fan or you dislike the song? Somewhere. In between I guess not a fan will is not that Mata found but. I haven't really done that deep dive into his music I. You know, I know a lot of songs from him. But. The idea to really do time I think I should because there's a lot of I heard his new song just now on the Feeling his songs you know it's real and it's role in it's A. Yeah. So I. I do listen something you know like Long Coleman radio. No Erin. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. S were recording this. It's September twelfth, and you know this week he released his new single letter to you and I think it's an amazing especially when you consider the guy's going to be seventy one this this month and you know he and eastern band or still putting out new music. That's just amazing. Yeah I. Think it's good when I don't just lean on the back catalogue in just tour, but they're creating us. Doing that. I. Think that's Great. Yeah I totally agree. So why did you choose to do cover long column which by the way you do a great version of. Thank you well when I do like I said, I'm not really a singer. So when I. I have to say because I don't know any. Singers from here so. When? I do a cover need something that I can manage to sing Some. Was Thinking. Thing and I didn't have in mind but I was just sitting on my tolerant than star playing Long Coleman Oh. Yeah. Maybe maybe it can do that one. and. Just. You know drumbeat in my head kind of doing it w slower than the original and the calmer. So that's how it's just by accident started played. Well. You did a great version. I'm GONNA include Lincoln the show I. Think it's a great song of his of course I. Do Springsteen podcasts line bias. But you know, I, think magic is really an amazing album and. I think the song long comb is really appropriate with everything that we've got going on the civil unrest and all the political turmoil especially here in the US. So I really appreciate it. Yeah Great. The something about the song I mean, it's Way delivered sounds the way. The Sound House look together in the range it's it creates a feeling. In me for yeah. Yeah I, I accept that I came across So when you're building a cover a lot of times you're. You're you're you're looking? If. I understand you right and I loved the expand on that you're going one. Can I sing it decently? Show is the song does it move me somehow either emotionally or you know a musically? So is that kind of how you look at when you're going to try to do a cover for something for your youtube? Channel. Yeah it's you know. It's normally songs that already have a relationship to audit Years the. It just happens so that I Thought that song at that time. Did the cover that's mostly holidays. You know you think of a song and then you try it and then. Get this some. Try Good. So. I know we're in the middle of dynamic but what are you working on next? What are you? What? What? What are the plans for Alex going forward? Kind of WANNA start writing a bit more again I, never. Get slutty as mccord of the on my phone to remember them but I kind of want to. Try To. Write US song in record something again because it's been a few years in combat. Also may be like not necessarily just like this. Song. More in that vein, more like rocks for Yup. Yup Be calmer than It Try. Do something like that. It sounds like listening to you that in a lot of ways the. The scene. Part of song making you almost enjoy more than the actual performing like you. You just mentioned you love the editing and in you know doing the individual tracks editing together mixing added new in that it sounds like that almost as your major love. Ya and especially you know. When you get to hear something comes together on the sounds good and you can just sit there and tinker with thanks in the most boring artists recording the basic tracks led the drums not all the basics to get will when it gets all that done, and you can just play with stuff and try new things on top of that. That's really where the phone starts. Yeah I can imagine like once. You you have the building blocks okay. Now what can I do creatively to do something differently in That that's like you said, you mentioned on long walk home you kind of slowed it down a little bit. Kinda. Did IT And the emotion of the singer, right the the pride of of their town but also the worry about the town comes through in the song. Yeah so If people want to find more about your music, tell them how what's the best way to do it. Well. It's really just youtube I don't have any any facebook page for Miss. So it's basically You know the out Perry on Youtube you'RE GONNA get a lot of results from Australian designer as well. So I did that when I noticed that that's funny. Are you on twitter? No I'm not okay. Okay no nothing that I just want to make sure we get the right thing Good. All right. So Alex I always like to ask this question what what have I not asked you that I, should have. A hard question actually It's hard to Celo I. Think. You convince you dummy you gotTa call you mentioned Europe is your favorite band have you seen them live? How many times? Twelve thirty? Yes. Twelve thirteen maybe. Nice? So Is there any song of the? Go ahead. Finish your state. Again. Yeah. I was going to see them now in May also, but the you know everything was southbound. Nelson. I know is there. I asked this when I have a springsteen fan on the show. So I'm going to turn it around is is there a song of theirs you haven't heard live but you wish you had. Most, definitely, trying to think of which one I would say it's okay to get more than one. Yeah. I mean the the. Probably from more than you think because. I think they have such so many many great songs. so probably. Song. Cold you W or only young Probably because there's so many. Yeah. Yeah. That's good What is also? Yeah. That's that's great. That's great. Well, all right. This has been a lot of fun. So we have to end with I, end every podcast with the Mary question and so. Two in kind explained you this in the email, but the to expand in case someone is listening to this podcast of the first time. A guy named Jay Armstrong is an honors English teacher and The Philadelphia area and he every. Every. Year. He has his seniors in an honors class and they take the springsteen song. Thunder road and they spend two days studying it. They look at all the lyrics they look at the imagery the. What the song what he's trying to say they, compare it to Robert Frost the road not taken. And then At, the end of the two days he you know he asked the class. Does Marianne the car. So you that homework assignment Alex what do you think? Do you think Mary gets into the CAR AT THE END OF THUNDER ROAD A couple of times the instead of trying to analyze every sentence in every. Relying ice. What did the song give me for a feeling? And I would have to. have. Really. This is my answer, but I would I would guess no got cross. Just something about he seems to be. A to domestic bittu maybe something align there where I don't remember exactly what something we are not worth something. We're not that young anymore. Yeah. Yes. So I'm kind of picturing them. You know maybe in their thirties or something like that, and he wants to go back to that innocent time of. Alyssum. Maybe she's what home with kids or being married or something like that, and each is trying to get her to Common Leslie like we did before. London. So really sticking more but. The feeling I got. That's a great answer. That's a really good answer. I like that a lot any final thoughts you want to share with US Alex. No thank you for having me Erin. Yeah. It's cool that some people in what I don't get a lot of useless. Cool than people from other countries and stuff like that get to. Humans yeah. So there is a guiding Ken, Rosen who does a blog and he At least once a week. On his blog gives covers and he's the one he had posted your cover and that's when I reached out to you. So Yes oh, thank you ken for helping US connect Well, Alex please be safe take care of yourself you know continue making music If you ever think of doing another springsteen cover or if you do something, don't hesitate to email me and say, hey, Jesse, check this one out. I've described ut channel and I'm going to continue to watch your music. I'll give a linked to that in the show but for now just I appreciate you so much. Well. Thank you on stay. Over there we will do it. We do our best listeners, use stay safe member social distancing, wash your hands where your mask take care of your cells and we will talk to you soon. Goodbye. GonNa. Be. Oh. Doing podcasts that times can be a one way conversation and I hate that. So. Please let me know what you like and don't like about the work I'm doing. You can reach the podcast via email at settling bruce gmail.com. The show is on twitter at settlers Bruce, and my personal twitter is at Jesse Jackson DFW. 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Paulo Magalhes, Founder and President of the Common Home of Humanity

Common Home Conversations Beyond UN75

36:02 min | 10 months ago

Paulo Magalhes, Founder and President of the Common Home of Humanity

"Welcome to Common home conversations Beyond you and seventy-five a series by the planetary podcast in common home conversations. You will hear from leading Global experts on how the proposal of recognizing the existence of an intangible Global common Without Borders can change our relationship with our planet the common home of humanity has proposed an ambitious New Globe pack for the environment the adverse effects of climate change span across borders and Beyond territories recognizing the Earth system as a common Heritage of humankind is the first step in restoring a stable climate a visible manifestation of a well-functioning or a system this proposals cascading effects would be systemic and tremendously impact international relations and economics opening the doors to restoring a well-functioning earth system, and home conversations is the place to discuss a new social contract between Society wage. Economy and the Earth system now here is your host founder and CEO of the planetary press Kimberly White. Hello and welcome to Common home conversations. Today. We're joined by Paloma founder and president of the common home of humanity. Thank you for joining us today Pollo. Thank you so much for your invitation. So kind thank you. So Paulo. Can you tell us what inspired you and your organization to launch This Global call for a legal framework off the main idea that the the starting point was when I saw a leg of this function one the capacity for love to explain the wall and this this happened on 2002 when the oil tank oil tanker that crashed near the border between Portugal and Spain the north of Portugal and the Crash was on Spanish Waters and the first reaction of the Spanish authorities was to push the boat for Portuguese letters they try to push and after our are me send the bolts and the reality was that there were several boats on the water off in the middle of the the highest split and the whole go to both sides. This is when this reality of having one line that is abstract that is illegal obstruction that divide them received the package. We cannot provide the C you cannot we can divide the space of the C, but we cannot survive the water. We cannot rewrite the system. We cannot provide the quality of their work or the fishes. So this is really one in capacity of law to explain the reality of this planet of these interconnected permit for so when we do lose the connection between abstraction and the Lego figuration and the reality of the page. We have to look for Solutions. This is what you need a new Lego extraction that is able to represent the interconnections of the climate. So we have had agreements to address the climate crisis such as the Kyoto Protocol and of course the Paris climate Accord, however, we're still struggling to move the needle the annual wage Gap report from the UN environment released last year found that Global greenhouse-gas emissions Must Fall by more than 7% each year over the next decade if were to limit warmer 1.5 degrees and we recently learned that we have failed to achieve any of the global biodiversity targets set a decade ago. What do you believe as prevented us from moving forward and finding a solution? One of the many mistakes is to consider and now we're mental inability to address the global you understand 12 to except we can say but to accept and to view all the things are all interconnected. The question is the same problem that I talked before about the the absence of one level of abstraction that is able to represent the interconnects. The box office planet is the same reason or is the strut for a reason for not receiving any result in my view on the climate emergency brake biodiversity. The question is when climate for the first time enter on the UN discussions in the eighties. The first question that was raised was what is Kathy from a legal point of view climates as you can imagine. It's something absolutely different for international law because climate is not a territory is a system off. Is more than a system is a well-functioning system is a pattern of ability of the function of this system that is predictable. We can if Seasons well defined seasons and all the years defined pattern repeats and repeats again, and we have envelope of temperatures that stuck inside these limits of temperature climate is for so it's a function well function that system is a way of function of the system that is for young woman's another species and this mode of operating. Both of the system is intangible is a software. It's not a territory is not a hardware issue is the software the great question is that from a lot of point of view we still look at the planet as we live in the in the eighteenth Century in the 77th birth. In the sixteenth Century or long the question is we still looking this planet only as a Territory divided between states where wage leftovers of the territories are the global comments. And this is not true. This is not absolutely to what make this planet different from all the planets that we know is the system all the time. It's able to be Tori bigger or smaller than Earth or all the planets have a territory what the other planets to motels and we have here in this place is the system that supports life the system that system in a well functions. The way of function is our main character's name is Howard 9 and most value think that we are going to because support life and supporters. And for the wall. This system does not exist. Does not exist because isn't eligible because you cannot divide it because we cannot appreciate it. We cannot properly privatised these things off and if we can divide the space of the C as we have made on the particular our Waters, we can divide the space but we cannot provide the system that operates inside the water of oceans. We cannot provide the system that operate on the airspace. We can divide space we cannot provide the system. Okay, and this is not the greatest issues because we do not accept that we have a global, Without Borders. We do not manage climate as a global, This is the great wage when climate is on in the UN negotiations in the eighties. The first proposal from Malta was to propose to recognize a stage. Climate is a common Heritage of mankind. The question was in nineteen. Ninety two in the in husum. It's the season was to consider them a change as a common concern of of mankind and this makes all the difference. This is the main reason why we still do not have any results intake linked technically climate change because with this decision decides that climate is not a common good you decide that climate is issue issue like any any issue and some level but no one's know. What is a concern from a lack of view in terms of flights and and in terms of the lease and the main question because we do not accept The climate is a system that exists in the real world and not issue. We do not accept that is a global comment and we do not manage it off the clock of comment and the great question is again because we do not do not fake Nuys the stable climate as a global public who's all the benefits that maintained and produce a stable climate do not exist for the world and four. So do not exist for economy. For example off the question of Amazon. I call it the Paradox of everyone knows that the forests of Amazon is one of the Key Systems on the planet that maintain and produce a stable climate. This Forest is the highest level affirmative a great question. Is this value Thursday. Everyone should necessarily everyone knows about these value but usually is not visible for economy. Why because when we talk about the value of of Amazon, we are talking about the invariable work that VIN is a consistent another Echo seems around the world make on the function on the issue of creating of their system on the intangible work of nature on the chemical changes that the forest made on on the air on the water on the soil and leaves changes. Anything tangible work does not exist because the common does not exist from a legal point of view. This work is made in a global Lego get off. The global does not exist slow confusing guava comments are only The Leftovers of the territories. Sorry. Sorry. This planet is more than a territory dead. No, Jewish in the world know like Alex Perry though. I can say that that is not true. The true is that this planet is now than a territory off and they'd show is not wrong. What is wrong is the law the law is wrong without changing this it will be totally impossible to restore the system because we do not take it off from work to his dorm a global, No one will make improvements on a global comment that does not exist that we will not be compensated for this. No doubt. No one will produce benefits on electronic. This is the good question and the results of concerned approach is not a decision to menage a global, that implies a conquest Conquest between the rules of appropriation of the global economy. And also the Congress dead. From Apple with that provided the gullible Public Schools. We need rules for providing providing the the global public group and for the procreation the reserve because usually do not have the global common. The result is when system of mitigation between states and the system of mitigation is we will try to make less patience the team and this is and negative some game. We will continue to make the emissions and this is the only way our economy works. Because to make positive to make benefits on that system to his started system. It's invisible for economy without sensing these Lego framework. We may not restart the system. We will not sure the food for Next Generation now when discussing an intangible Global common Without Borders One initial misconception regarding this deals with national borders and sovereignty. Can you address this? We must understand some way explained that these are these two different realities. What is the division of the space? Another is the system to different realities and this is the great secret somehow for the convenient. Why in the convenience it's possible to have common property inside the space of private property. Because they have different things one is one thing is the space is my apartment. Another think is the system of electricity or the system of what page are the system of the elevators. This one is a function of division. And now that is a space disease and we can consolidate both this is what we need to do in the planet. We need to consider the system as a global common that exists inside and outside of the seventies and this month. I do not mean that we have to to finish with the borders with the seventies to be honest. The only way to keep sovereignty and the territories goal is to keep the system in a well function way. We helped a well function at system. That is not sovereignty that can say I do not agree with climate change. The climate change is that the system is that this is the reality of this planet and this is not under the the sovereignty of every state. This is not under the jurisdiction of church and state. The only way to manage one common is as as Professor alien or often tell us the first step is off cuz we find the, what is the comment that is a strike we have to manage in this is the first step and I think is to define the system as a common Heritage of mankind and now we have the certificate tools that are needed to Define. This comment have attached the search for the safe operating space for mankind. I think is specific to to Define these intangible, narratives of mankind that support life. The second step is to cross like Congress between the rules for a population and the rules for provision of the common group without these. It's impossible to have a collective action in a series destructive conditions for a collective action climate change is not a problem of CO2 climate change before being a problem of CO2 age or economic problem is the problem of comments of Malaysian comments without creating the conditions to be possible a successful management common. We will not address. We will not clean this work against climate change because this is a problem that no one's talked about that is behind all the problems and people consider take as long as something even that climate change is a common concern with or whatever without no one knows. What is a concern so climate change is essentially a symptom not the root cause of the illness. It's a symptom. Yeah, you are right this difficulty of accepting from the 70 feeling that we have a common in size of territory independently if you accept or not the comment is there. Is function we we have no sovereignty under the common the common system and our future the features of the next Generations depend on this comment page now historically economic growth has come at a devastating cost to the Earth's natural systems or Global comments, essentially when we destroy the environment we create wealth with no penalty, but at the same time there are no incentives in place to reward nature Positive Solutions and recent Studies have found that nature could create trillions of dollars in annual business opportunities the system that dysfunctional how do we reconcile Economic Development with growing environmental concerns? And this is again a legal question. I like of casting that is behind the conception of Valium. The conception of what is the creation in our society if we accept that we have a common Without Borders intention that is not a threat to the sovereignty. That is the only way to keep the solvent. He's working at for the future and Rising footage if we accept this and we accept that the climate package is in fact my country depends on what others made on the other side of the planet depends on the aircraft systems that are in other countries. If we accept this, we put some competencies in one institution that will manage that I think should be United Nations wage. She's Manish. What are the positive impacts that each one make and negative impacts that each one made on the comment system to create the system of accountancy of these extra tax to create Global public policy of the maintenance of this of this climate. We can change the rule of the game when the wealth creation the wealth creation in our society only happens. If we destroy nature, if you hit nice the comments we can give value to the work of nature. We can give value to the intangible work of nature. And we must distinguish that Amazon the the rainforests. I only spoke of about Amazon because it's the biggest. Okay. All the ecosystems are this is the song speaking up for that the rest of the systems but I talked about the result because it's the biggest one the lungs of the Earth. Yeah. The question is the forest of Amazon. We want them to the nine countries that this place on Earth the work that is made is, because there is no borders for the world of nature. There is no borders for the evapotranspiration. There is no borders for the the sources of CO2. There is no bothers four boxes and there is no borders for that organic wage goes to the water that after all the organic material that goes to the data and after she's all the oceans there is no horse for this but these forests in its belong Used to the current is that are there the question is we need to make one account to see of system that compensate this work for the benefits that list territory be nice to all the system that we all share the value if it's we all share the benefits of these ecosystems in the same way that we all share the damage that the commission or the emissions of of who else all over the place the place we share the benefits and we share the damage. So the only way to remember that this question is 2:15 as the common and after to make a system of governance of the use of his, and to think I fully accept the benefits see if you introduce the benefits of the accountancy. All the compass you will change it will discuss effects on the emissions on the logic of the emissions on the logic of what is what took on the GDP of countries without changing this rule. We will continue on the negatives on some game where you try to reduce emissions that we will never get installed at the system because we will we will not create one carry activity of the system in the country's off and the Camry activity of the system should be compensated and he can't achieve become visible on the GDP of of the countries and we must find a balance between the positive impacts and the negative impacts. And the question is if we introduce the positive impact what will be the consequences the cache cache conscripts or on the negative because this will change the rule of the game is to teach in One initial condition of the system that really studying checks that will end probably no effects in all the economy. You know, there's a lessons between not and so involved relations inside the countries that it's a paralegal shifts and to any results. I think it's inevitably that we need a paradigm shift. We have so many police chief. How long does History Month why we cannot another one and think on this we have already freaked nice the question of where Lego steps for the dog. And it has Ultimate Guide we have already recognized leg of objects of flow in vegetable Acres of objects of flow in outerspace flow. We have already defined the safe across the space. That is this space when we are talking about the safe operating space with the planet plan this framework. We are not talking a space. This space is not a theory class place is a quality space of the system. We have the quantity and quality parameters that Define a well-functioning system. We took all the tools that we need to recognize the global common to measure the impacts to define the global common to change the only abstract that we took in our heads in our ideas his to accept that we have a global common, you know posters. This is the only of stock we have wage. The abstract between to give the opportunity for next Generations to drive and to live or to be in in the description in the climate these hoops. And the only obstruction in this moment is one long-held belief that we have borders and we do not have a global common result workers. The question is we are not talking about to hit earliest. We have to leave our mindsets from the territory and to embrace the idea of the system that we need to keep the borders on the territories 12-piece. To maintain the peace that we can get that at the same time who we need to build a Lego framework that is able to represent the global function of that system. We need something a level of abstraction that is not old system. When we proposed to recognize that sisters akong ritaj is not saying that the commentators will be the system this this will be a good presentation of the system with the knowledge that we have now. That is the safe open a space. That is the best knowledge that we we have now. The reality is what we can have for sure is that this planet is not only a predatory and we need to be present the functionality of the system from a legal point of view and after to build a system of global dead. Ms of these Global, so by introducing in our account to see in our GDP the work of nature we can make a paralytic shift in what is value and by doing so we we can build one economy not only to reduce emissions month that we are already starting to hit but also when you going to be of restoring that list Okay, the countries that have used ecosystems the key across systems of the planet, of course, they must be compensated. Okay dead but they must be compensated because they are providing one services that support life for everyone and this will create new jobs new ways of wealth creation and you know, you have to work on both sides reducing the impact and the story The ecosystems. And they will work together but to work together and to work on both sides you leave that via the results. Outcome of this work the outcomes of these activities, you can visible in the economic system in a global economic system and do not forget when you you are investing in less than a emissions in the equipment's with less emissions. We are capturing tio2 you are working on intangibles natural intense Force brat reducing benefits on a system or less emissions or negative or capture and feel too so you we are always working when we are reducing his best offer with new technologies to to to avoid emissions. We are reading with internet. Well intangibles. We are leaving to avoid emissions of natural attention off. What we are talking about is about 1 economy of natural intangibles more than Commodities that are support of life. And we should build this new economy around this soap. It's a new economy that realize new jobs new economic activities that are different from the previous one. Okay, so long there is no account eviction between the economy and actual the contradiction is between what we conceive wage as value what we consider as wealth creation and nature economy is not in a position to Nature. What is in a position is our concept of what is value for nature. What is really funny can be what is the concept of wealth creation? Now, I think that's a really great point. And I know that the world economic Forum recently came out with a report on how nature Positive Solutions are good for our economy. So essentially shifting away from his usual which is a Hot Topic right now with covid-19 and the green recovery and adopting these nature Positive Solutions to create trillions of dollars in annual business opportunities and create nearly four hundred thousand jobs over the next ten years alone. So this will be a very beneficial for us. It's a global community and also our local communities. Yes. We with some great great Advantage Kimberly very good Technologies with their emissions or capturing CO2 with no damage. So nature visit Solutions off the problems of natural registration. You need a legal framework that capture. What do they are positive externalities? Okay, trust many to invest in nature with Solutions. Okay. No, one will put millions and millions and millions of dollars in nature of the solutions because the outcomes of nature with Solutions are in network intangibles benefits on the system that that needs bit cock-eyed. Okay, so to talk about none conflict between economy and and later is absolutely Madness off in the sense that the problem is not economy in the problem is what is value and I ask again. What is value for humankind more eyebrows or more communities or more videos of physical conditions that support week whenever or something continue to prove communities. We need to prove communities that we need to produce less communities and to produce more touchable Network test was that super flight because we're not in he's in the end one will earn money because the system will collapse So the problem is the system of what is what is value for us? What really matter for us? Okay. This is the question about the value to what and the value is invented for us, but the system do not change. The only one that concerns is economy. The only that can change is the law that the laws of nature will not change. So the only solution is to adapt our laws to adapt our economy to what support wise and the next Generations there is no risk excuse to do not do it. There is no excuse. I like that we must change because the laws of nature will not change. Thank you Paula. This was enlightening. Do you have any final thoughts to share with their audience? We can manage the system without undermining the territory the sovereignty of States. This is from a legal point of view from a political point of view one use of Illusion because this is the time also to connect the new science about the function of that Cisco Unity of the system with the concepts quiz electrical sites with the political Solutions with the designing of policies and the designing of organic institutions of Institutions designing Global governance. So only connecting of all of this song with law with the cost places in the economy by freaking Rising the work of nature that support life. And also connecting with that political and institutional solutions that we need to manage the system. This is the new society that we need the evolution that we need to have one hundred percent where we can leave when the next Generations can live off. We cannot think that in the anthropocene. We will leave on the same way with the same clubs that we live ten years ago twenty years ago five three years and do not forget all that is that we are seeing now then let you know is and so on and off also one outcome as not having solution for this fact of being we are all collect. We will depend on each other in a global scale and because we have no solutions for these we have no designing with no governance designed for this reality of the planet that the outcome is dead. Each one is trying to close themselves in their borders thinking that this is the best solution for them and we know that this this is not true climate change that damage did not expect any bother for so only building something that represents a wall Without Borders The systemic approach and keeping the borders on the territory and the rowing the system to exist Without Borders. We can find new Solutions. All right, and there you have it. Our planet is more than a territory and The Great quest moving forward is to recognize the existence of the earth system as a common Heritage of humankind dead. By recognizing our Global Commons, we can give value to the intangible work of Nature and take the first step to restoring a stable climate a visible manifestation of a well-functioning earth system. That is all for today and thank you for joining us for this episode of common home conversations Beyond you and 75 Please Subscribe share and be sure to tune in next Wednesday to continue the conversation with our special guest Carl Burger co-founder and managing director of one Earth and visit us at ww.w the planetary, press, four more episodes and the latest news and sustainability climate change in the environment.

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Hating on the Hiker Bro Evangelist

With Friends Like These

26:52 min | 10 months ago

Hating on the Hiker Bro Evangelist

"Hi I'm Ana Marie Cox. This is with friends like these good intentions addition. This was a journey American missionary John Chow was warned against taking the island was off limits to out to protect outsiders and the tribe which has no immunity to modern diseases. This morning investigators are trying to figure out who else might have been involved in that fatal mission revolts of arrests Indian police say they're investigating whether mole people may have been involved in this illegal trip, the police chief calling it a misplaced adventure to an island where the people reject contact with the outside world, and then that gruesome ending young Americans body buried in the signed. Today this remote island in the Indian. Ocean is the focus of an investigation where is American, Missionary John House body this morning seven people including fishermen accused of taking him. There are under arrest more maybe under suspicion chow was no stranger to exotic adventures trekking in South Africa snowshoeing across the Pacific northwest diving in the end of NC. Curious about the tribes but his trip to North Sentinel Island in the demand see was both perilous and a legal that's coverage of the death of John Chow. You probably remember Jon Allen Chao History was everywhere even though it started in one of the most remote places on earth. How Remote will is it does a string of islands that you sick be land bridge between Burma and Indonesia then as a site about ten thousand years go be icecaps melted sees rows a night became a string of islands there are. Eight hundred dollars of which need you're incompetent and and that is why you have these tribes living in isolation realistic cutoffs in the world. That's Alex Perry. He's a veteran foreign correspondent who wrote a long feature about John Chow for outside magazine. He'll be one of the people taking us through this story. So it's it's incredibly remote to get them. You Go to eastern India. To Madrid and you fly out, it's it's too in a two to three hours a completely out worser an Amazon is just appear out of nowhere. tiny little dots. it's also actually the place where it was be closest his face to be two, thousand, four, two, thousand, five. A Asian tsunami I mean an so it's Incredibly remote. Wild place in that time, entire islands was swallowed by the actions in nuance just popped up. So it's Absolutely primal and. What was really what I mean I've been there a number of times. But what's really striking when you're coming in on a plane is you can't see what the hell the plane is GonNa. Let because there's just nothing but. I. You know jungle islets that doesn't seem to be any sentiment a toll. And then finally. This one town pays at the end of the headland and you land John was obsessed with that string violence. With the idea there was a group of people out there who had not heard the word of God. When he was killed by the tribe, he set out to convert his death became a talisman on both sides of the culture. War. For Evangelical 's he quickly became a martyr killed in the active bringing Christ to supposedly hostile people's. his brother and sister. In contrast both the parents turned up at the aerobics university kind of official memorial for job and took part in the whole ceremony. where? Jones mental. Stood up untold an ordinance of two thousand Young Christians. The Bay should emulate Joan Joan was standard-bearer and that they should be all using his example, INARA. Progressives or almost anyone who's not an evangelical Christian he was an immediate punching bag. In a stream of tweets takes and TV segments over the months that followed his death chow was characterized as at best a dumb ass backpacker. And at worst as a Christian supremacist in. To genocide. In the words of one comic not so much a martyr as. Patron Saint of tough coach. It's the reactions to John Story that interest me the most. Because John himself while fascinating in the ways that any tragic figure is fascinating. Is a bit more of a type than you might realize. The idea of bringing Christianity to previously unconnected people is not as it turns out a throwback of an idea. And it's certainly not something as unpopular as all those hot takes would have you believe. Time to earn our keep. With friends like these is proudly sponsored by made to fail. Broken unemployment system in Florida crowded elections in Wisconsin during a global pandemic rampant political corruption. In Georgia, these failures didn't have to happen a new podcast made to fail connect the dots between these government failures and pulls back the curtain on the conservative policies that time and time again failed people they claim to protect may fail takes you state by state through the policies. 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Spear. It sort of tells the story of Jim Elliott, who in nineteen, fifty-six attempted to evangelize to Karani of Ecuador and was in fact killed. Spirit. The movie is fascinating because it's not really about Elliot. It's about a fictional native character who begins journey to Christianity because of Elliott's death. Is Not even about Elliott's death really so much as a ninety minute justification of Elliott's death it's imaginary evidence proving that Eliot didn't die in vain. It's pedantic and condescending and Super Racist is almost certainly one of the reasons John Chow set off on the path that he did. John House models were not the missionaries brought. Catholicism to the New World But the twentieth century. Evangelical. idolized in independent films and books you can pretty much only by Christian bookstores there's a whole subculture of adventuring youth pastors for someone like John to look up to. But you don't even need to go back decades to find John's heroes. You just have to cross international dateline. To Brazil. But in the number of uncle people's keeps going up rather than down you know you might think that this such a thing that is happening less than this but actually in the last decade or so in Brazil, they've discovered far more one Kentucky tribes and they knew about. Ten or fifteen years ago. So actually the discoveries are going up. Wrong. The numbers coming down. That Sufi Greg from survivor international another guide in our own adventure. These previously uncontradicted tribes are the target of a coordinated effort by Evangelical Christians and the Brazilian government what we have seen an increase in is a push in Brazil full the attempts to. Mission is and make contact with on contacted tribes when the Brazilian government is appointed as head of the contacted tribes department a somebody who was the head word for the new tribes missionary. Organization for many decades and as we have described this as having the chicken in charge of the Henhouse, this is an extremely dangerous move and is likely to increase. Attempts Brazil for on contacted tribes to be contacted. By it's. So, it makes John Chow Story. So you need in the modern age, isn't the act of going out to evangelize her remote tribe Is that he did it by himself. But you know. Even that doesn't make him all that unique. Alex Perry pointed out to us his instagram feed. John Chow was an evangelical Christian, but he was also a millennial living out his HASHTAG goals. So. This is the narrative that Jonas following, and this is who he wants to be, and you can kind of get a sense of that in his diaries and hit his social media posts. he is consciously crofting this narrative for he's following it, but he's also. He's aware of how this stuff is GonNa look in hindsight. If he does. And so he's he's consciously crossing his narrative I mean to me the social media aspect actually is is. Sort of fascinating on instagram particularly. he also uses it as a disguise which I guess everybody does ride social media is your best cells. And even more than that John Chow was a millennial with Hashtag goals hand the same desire telegraphed by every fucking mountain dew ad, every new viral stunt every reality show he wanted to be extreme. John Chow wasn't missionary. And a totally radical dude. Right in the missionary well, north. Central, is Mount Everest. That's that's the whole point. It's the most extreme. It's completely off the maps and anybody who's ever landed that more or less has been killed. You know none of that. Going it. It's it's. It's it's the unconquered. Our second last at break comes. 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But one of the things I've learned since creating this podcast is to be wary of my first reaction to anything. And like you, my first reaction to chow story was dismissal. Maybe a little anger and if I'm honest brightness, I would never do something like that. I would know that it's wrong. There might be a part of me that feels like chow got what he deserved. And what's wrong with that reaction? Well. Here's the first thing I caught. My assumption that John chows crime was to somehow pollute the untouched or spoil something pure. This is an easy assumption to jump to Alex Perry fell into it while talking to us. The failing imposition of. You kind of I guess Western. or Indian civilization. No matter how hard you try to make a town that the jungle is constantly eating. So you know you you, you paint a wall, it's black with mold in three weeks and the revised lines coming out of the jungle dragging back. Every day that I've been, that is a giant sign will action just. Tear apart jetties in flood the streets in about a foot of water. You know you really shouldn't be that you're not welcome and it's. It's not like a paradise Caribbean island. The beach is beautiful in backwards. Fantastic virgin rainforest and zone. There's a minister. I don't think Alex realized he was doing it but his description of the jungle seems to include the people in it. It's a metaphor. Yes. But it's also an example of how a lot of us think about unconnected tribes that they are part of the environment rather than people who shape the environment. That choosing to live their way of life. They have changed benefits as at all societies have done over generations. It's it's not that then moving as their ancestors did they will have changed and evolved. And so this idea that it's somehow so to romantic and idealistic to sort of suggests that they should be able to stay in the forest. soon-to-be it's often quite patronizing because it it sort of negates the fact that this is their choice. This is the choice of these people to live their way of life into to to live in the forest, and it's by told that that's respected. So yes, it's true that some people may romanticize that life, but it's not really about that's not the reason why they should be their land should be recognized and their rights remain uncle impacted should be respected. That's because that's their choice. It's their right under international law and should be respected. Choice. That's the crux of the story. who gets to make the choices that govern our lives So. Fi in our interview came back again and again to the fact that merely contacting the tribes steals away some of their autonomy violates the choices they've made. And usually makes them so sick, they have no choice but to engage with modern society. Even John chows mission as a Christian Limited. Their choices is not like he brought him a buffet of religions and let them decide for themselves which one they like best. And what's particularly odd about the ways that Chow attempted to narrow the choices of the sentinel lease is that John Chow had himself a lot of options a lot of choices. And he kept picking the ones that would lead to his death. Is a number of moments in John Story when he could have taken the off Ram. You know where he could've posed when. The moments where he was made to. He might of introspective he might have seen a big picture. And willfully all because. It was just in some way unacceptable to him. He invested so much in this mission. He missile off. You'd the most dramatic moment is is. He finally gets to know sense alive and and he has a reasonably friendly interaction with Nola senseless Amana ten kids steps out of nowhere and shoots him with an Arrow in the chest. Only, it hits a Bible. And and that's what saves John Now to most people that would be anonymous to Joan. He was saved by the binary. He was saved by God not only that. He then sort of page through the Bible. And found what to him was the verse which stopped. The the Arrow and IT'S A. It's a verse from my Cya about preaching to a people that didn't want him about about bringing face to a race that didn't know God. Either I mean to me that's clear fantasy right if an arrowhead cases, the Bible, it paces many pages it. It doesn't stop at one. John Chow chose to believe he had no agency that he was on a mission from God. Indigenous. People aren't allowed to have agency at all. which brings us to the last point about that easy righteousness that his story brings to mind. Whose Land Are you standing on? ME I'm standing on Dakota land. And is angry as I might be able to get about John chows mission. I have to admit that I would not be standing here. If Christian missionaries hadn't decided they knew better than the people they came to convert. Fact Away a place. We still call Saint Anthony Falls named by Father Louis, Hennepin, who was a Christian missionary. He probably didn't realize or didn't care that the falls were already sacred to the mid Walken Dakota. and. Once again, we don't have to go back that far to see self justifying colonialism in action if you've listened to our sister. This land you know about the Supreme Court decision that held the existence of the Muskogee creek reservation. But last week the first week of October twenty twenty. The Environmental Protection Agency decided that the State of Oklahoma can overrule tribes in the course of quote overseeing environmental issues. They. Know. Best. Americans. There is no place you can stand that doesn't eventually trace back to Christian missionaries and the conviction of white people that their choices are the ones that matter. And the way we live on this land is also an awkward justification for genocide the same as the plot of spear. I really hate to put it this way. But the people that died to allow America to exist. What could we ever do to make their deaths worth? I'm aware. Also That is the legacy of genocide that enables me to be the one telling you the story. Right. Now. This show is a production of crooked media and is produced by Alison Harare Lily Alexandrov is assistant producer Izzy Margulis our research intern and Liam McMahon writes all my tweets that are about registering to vote, and by the way registered to vote, you can find out more at vote. Save America. Dot Com. Karen qualley engineer. This episode Whitney Patrick is Walis Mom and ex lease adopted and. Take care of yourselves.

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Her Smell (Featuring Josh Bell)

Piecing It Together Podcast

45:46 min | 2 years ago

Her Smell (Featuring Josh Bell)

"And. All right. Welcome to another episode of piecing. It together the podcast where we take a look at a new movie and try to figure out what movies inspired it and today on the show, we got a little bit of a weird one dark one. This is a movie called her smell from writer director, Alex Ross Perry. Starring Elizabeth moss as Becky something a grunge era rockstar who seems pretty much determined to Allie, Nate everyone around her, including some of the audience like myself, although co host Joshua bell. Absolutely loved this movie. I had mixed thoughts on it. I did like it. But it's a tough one. It's a tough one to watch. Not unlike a movie, we talked about last year called vox Lux, which I loved, and Josh didn't really love. But you know what? That is something we're going to get into in this conversation before we do get into that conversation. About her smell. I do. Wanna remind you as always to make sure you're subscribed piecing together on your podcast app of choice. And if you enjoy the show he can review on, I tunes that would be amazing. If you did that way. I'm sorry. It's not called tunes anymore. It's called apple podcasts. Screwed up again guy. But you know what to do go right interview that would be amazing did that you could also follow us on social media at piecing pod. And join our Facebook group popcorn and puzzle pieces. So with that said, why don't we jump into this conversation about her smell? All right. Back with us is Josh bell, Josh. How you doing? Man. I am doing very well. How are you? I'm I'm good. I'm good things have been busy. But we're here, we're ready to do another piecing it together. Yes. Indeed. We are always glad to have you back today. We talking about her smell, and we'll most didn't do this one, but you were like let's do this one. I was like, yeah. Let's do this one. When I like I don't think we've actually talked about since you've watched it yet. We're keeping this fresh. Like you're, you're finding out when the audience is finding out, right? But for me at least I this is like one of my favorite movies of the year so far. So I definitely had recommended that you watch it and it's a shame that we never got it in theaters here in Las Vegas. Yeah. But it did come out on, on VOD pretty quickly, and including on, on hoopla, which I'll put in a plug for because that's an awesome streaming option for people with library cards. You can watch movies for free. Yeah. That's how we watched awesome. Yeah. It's good that it's good that hoopla around is that there's so many different things around, but I do wish it had been in theaters on, I think I'm a little a little more mixed on it than you. But at the same time is certainly something I enjoyed watching and glad to get to talk about it. Yeah. So what are we jump in? What do you got for your first puzzle piece? All right. Well, my first puzzle piece this might be a slight cheat because this is a movie that the director Alex Ross Perry has actually mentioned as a big influence on him. And that is Danny Boyle's Steve Jobs, his film, bio-pic, of course about Steve Jobs. The apple founder and the main thing about that movie that connects to her smell is the way that it's structured. So Steve Jobs is sensually three long sequences, each set at like a big sort of presentation or announcement event that Steve Jobs was involved with related to, to apple into his computer business. Mrs and sort of how those encapsulate his career. His relationship said, Sarah, and her smell is structured similarly, we've got I think it's five big sequences and not all of them are like backstage presentation sequences, I think, maybe three of them take place backstage, and then two of them are elsewhere. But it similarly structured in that it jumps ahead in time after each of these sequences, and it gives you kind of snapshots of the characters life. Obviously, this is a fictional character. But still, it's a movie her smell. I think that if you didn't know whether it was a fictional character or not. I think you could believe shows was a kind of an unconventional version of bio-pic, because it follows a lot of the similar beats, so it's interesting to me, I'm personally, I was not a huge fan of jobs, the movie, and I think it got a lot of mixed response. It was. Sort of touted or positioned as a big awards, kind of movie that never really made it there. It was interesting to me to hear a filmmaker like Alex Ross Perry. Who's this kind of weird icon, a classic indie filmmaker site that kind of clumsy awards bait movie as an influence, but he's an odd fellow. Alex Perry and has some interesting tastes, he wrote. I don't know if you saw he wrote a column for indie wire like a month ago or something about how much he loved the vendors endgame, and how it should be nominated for a bunch of Oscars. Nice. So he's a hard one to, to nail down, but he apparently the big fan of Steve Jobs, and I can see that regardless of whether you liked that movie or not. I think you can really see the influence here. Sounds like Alex Ross Perot really strong personalities. Maybe that's his thing. Maybe so, yeah, that could be there's definitely that Steve Jobs. Yeah. Yeah. For sure now that that's a good one. And I hadn't I hadn't seen that interview or whatever. But I, I could definitely see that comparison. No. Like I said, the strong personality thing you know, this is definitely a character that's kinda easy to hate. It makes it a little difficult at times. I think that's a thread, that's going to run through some of my puzzle pieces as well. But, but yes, Steve Jobs movie, I did like it. But is the movie that turned Gina off of movies like? Tireless. She aided that movie. She thought it was just the worst between that and pineapple express. So maybe she just doesn't like, Seth Rogan. And that was one of Seth Rogan's more subdued performances Steve Jobs, where he's kind of trying something a little more dramatic. Yeah. I think that's maybe the last time he did that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. No, I think that's true. Well, I'm going to start off before I get into any, my movie, puzzle pieces. My first puzzle piece. I think the character like you said it feels almost like a real character. And I think I just wanted to mention a few of the artists or bands I thought probably inspired this band, and, and the character of Becky, something. Yeah. Yeah. And so some of those were axl rose of guns and roses, of course, Courtney love of hole, and Scott Weiland stunt up pilots fell revolver. And then L seven as well, but yeah, a lot of that kind of just kind of destructive rock that nineties style kind of thing and the kind of artists where, where the front person just must just be held must be such a pain in the ass. Must put the rest of the band, and the people within their life, just through nonstop just awfulness, you know, and of course, in the movie we get to explore some of why that might be why somebody might end up like that. But. Certainly those characters are people that we've all joked about a little bit, those real life characters. And I feel like this is kind of a continuation of that kind of character. Yeah, I agree the definitely the nineties thing. I think Courtney love is the one that people see shorter most in this character between the the nineties connection. And the fact that it's an all female group, but I think, again, this might be where I also read about Steve Jobs that Alex Ross Perry has said that actually axl rose was his main inspiration. Yes. Character. Yeah. And I can certainly see that as well. The ninety I love the ninety s aesthetic in this movie I feel like it's done incredibly effectively. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's certainly the era when I first started really getting into music, and all of those grunge type bands. I liked whole. I liked L seven bands like that. I don't know maybe like Ruka salt and other female fronted grunge band. There was a great article. I think it was in vulture where the designer who designed all of the fake album covers in the closing credits like they win. There's like twenty two of them, and they went down each individual one, and he talked about what his inspiration was for it, and where he of got the imagery from and how he was given direction or not giving direction by Perry as to what to create there. And it was really fascinating. So, yeah, I think those are all very apt Harrison's. Cool. What do you got for your next one? So my next pick is sort of a cult classic film. I guess you could say from I'm not sure what you're exactly. I think sometime in the mid eighties is called, ladies and gentlemen, the fabulous stains, which is another sort of, like fake rock bio pic. I guess you could say it was Diane Lane's big breakout role when she was like fifteen. I think and it's, it's not a great movie is one of those movies, that was like bungled on its release, and barely put out and for years and years was really hard to find. And I think built this big reputation in part, based on the inability of people to see it, and then. When it finally became more available. I don't know maybe for me. At least it was like a little underwhelming. But it definitely captures the that punk rock, sort of an archaic spirit, and Diane lane plays this character who's who's much younger, who's a teenager. But similar similarly has this attitude about screw everyone in everything, and I'm out for myself and kind of destroying everything in her path, and she's fantastic opens with this, great, like monologue of her speaking directly to the camera about her sort of nihilistic worldview, and she's got this great, I make up in this hair, and it's, it's really good in the movies a bit downhill from there. But it's a it's a fascinating Colt object, and I think I can see a lot of that. Diane lane character in, in Becky something in this movie. Sure. Yeah. I hadn't heard of that movie until I started looking up like review looking. For other rock music, you know movies. Yeah. And I found this one along the way but I definitely had never seen it before, never heard of it sounds. Well, you said it's not that good. It sounds interesting. It is interesting. Yeah. Several years ago. I did a thing on my site of month of rock Tober of music, rock music movies, and that was one that I included there that is me that maybe I wouldn't have otherwise watched was part of this project, and it was it's an interesting curiosity. Definitely. Maybe not a great movie, right on well, okay? My next puzzle piece. Movie that I'm pretty sure you don't like is called Birdman. We've talked about Birdman on this podcast. We have you have been part of Birdman conversations, so rather than going through the whole setup of what Birdman is. Because obviously, there's a lot of backstage stuff happening in this movie, which is a pretty easy comparison. The thing that I actually wanted to talk about was probably my favorite part of the movie aside from Elizabeth moss performance is the score. Yes. Outside of the songs the score is fucking maddening. It is really it will drive you, absolutely nuts. And as a composer, I really appreciated that and certainly the score of Birdman in kind of a different way can drive you nuts. But certainly the music in this film. It really it creates a tension that is very, very off putting and you kinda get the feeling that her character, maybe even hearing it like throughout. Very strange meadow way. You just it just it's the sound of crumbling psyche. And it's a very like weird thing with little bits of jazz, stabs and stuff like that. And a little Qatar pieces just kind of sewn into it. But yeah, it's a very, very interesting score. I should have written down the composer's name to you happen to know. Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with you on the fact that is interesting. And it's funny because as you say, I, I am not a fan of Birdman and one of the things I dislike the most about Birdman is the score because I just feel like it's completely distracting and inappropriate. And yet, I love the score in this movie in her smell, because I felt like it worked exactly alongside. Everything else the movie was doing. Yeah, yeah, and it does put you on edge. It is jarring and maybe off putting at times. But it's absolutely a reflection of this. Character who herself is. Abrasive and chaotic and unstable and all of those things. And I think the, the score the way the movie is shot the way that it's structured. It's all a reflection of this character's psyche is one of the things I really liked about the movie. Absolutely. Absolutely. And by the way, it's Keegan DeWitt, and I'm just looking up right now. And he did the music for the HBO show divorce, which I liked the music on that show. So, okay. Yeah. He's. I feel like he's written some original song. He wrote heartbeat loud, this really from that he's done a few original songs for movies where like the characters are musicians and write songs. And I've definitely seen his name pop up quite a bit indie, films and stuff like that. Very cool. All right. Well, what do you got next year next piece? All right. Well, my next pick is the Madonna documentary truth or dare, and obviously, there's tons of rock and pop music, documentaries about narcissistic stars and their backstage antics, and I probably could have picked something else. But I think first of all truth, or dare, is probably one of the most famous one of the most well known the one that people are most likely to have seen. And I think it very much captures diva behavior. I mean, it's a different kind of diva behavior Madonna's, not presumably strung out on drugs, and she certainly not a grunge rock star in, you know, a lot of it is, she's got her, but she's got her famous boyfriend, Warren Beatty, and she's complaining to him or whatever. And okay. The Dan Stevens character in this film is not quite he's no Warren Beatty. Right. But at the same time, you've got that dynamic, and this, this self involved famous musician and the put upon you know, romantic interest, who is just trying to tolerate her, and you'll with her as she's going through her her whole process, or whatever you wanna call it. And that's a movie where, of course, Madonna allowed herself to be shown that way, and I'm sure it was all very controlled, and any meltdown or argument or anything that they show in that movie was completely approved show her by her. Her. But yeah, I mean, I would imagine that because also as we said, this movie feels like it could be about a real person, I would imagine that, that Alex Ross Perry probably studied, a lot of these not only bio-pics but also documentaries about Rockstars and that kind of behavior. I've seen Darren quite a while, but I'm a big Madonna fan and I remember being amused. And entertained by it at the time. I ever saw that. I, of course, remember it this one of those movies, you know, from a long time ago that it just seems like I did. But I don't really recall. But it was like it was one of those things it was such a big movie at the time a music documentary that was a big hit is very rare. Yeah. Yeah. That was a huge thing at the time. Well, okay, I'm going to go onto my next puzzle piece. And so my next one is this movie. I think it, you know, the, the main attraction of the movie is a central huge performance by a pretty, you know, monstrous character who kind of, you know, just, you know, tears tears are way across every scene. You know. And so, I thought of there will be blood as my next puzzle piece, an example of a movie that centered on that, you know, that kind of a big huge character big performance. Just totally chewing up everything, you know, everything that comes across for entire two hours or along the movie is. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. And I can definitely see, especially in the later sequences of there will be blood, where Daniel plain view is kind of a recluse and his lost his. His fortune and all in all. And there's a lot of that in the in the later portion, or I guess the what is it? Maybe the fourth portion of this, where Becky is kind of isolated in her house and doesn't know if she's ever going to leave or perform again or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. I would love to see a remake of there will be blood. Starring Elizabeth moss. Daniel plain view. I would be amazing. I think if nothing else Elisabeth moss can do pretty much anything. I could see it totally see it. She's she's, she's a screamer. She is. She's she's amazing. And I think this is like you said, it's a big performance, and she's kind of chewing scenery, but I think it's that can easily be too much or be irritating or feel phony. And I didn't get that at all. I thought she was fantastic and did exactly what the character calls for all of these moments. I think she was fantastic. Character not so much. What were your next puzzle? Well, my next puzzle piece was speaking of Elizabeth moss. My next piece is Queen of earth, which is the previous collaboration between Elizabeth moss. And Alex Ross Perry, so, yeah, her smell is actually, the third movie they've made together. Right. They're very much strong collaborators and Queen of earth is one as opposed to previously, they did a movie. Listen up Philip where Liz with Moss's kind of a secondary character, but in Queen avert, she's another main star, and it's a lot more of a surreal sort of less straightforward movie than this one is, is about two friends who go kind of on a weekend, getaway and sort of their, their mental state, and their friendship kind of crumbles holy shit. I did see this. Yeah, I didn't think I had. And I'm just it's just coming back to me right now. I totally saw this. Yeah. And I, I mean, if you can't tell I like Alex Ross Perry, a lot dot for everyone. Clearly, but I think his movies are always interesting. And sometimes baffling and Queen of earth is, is both of those things. But again, it features a very strong intense performance from Elizabeth moss. I think he can bring that out of her very well. And I could absolutely see, I don't know if this is the case or not, but I could absolutely see after working together on that movie the two of them saying, let's craft something that allows her to just let loose overweigh leading into this movie. So, yeah, I recommend all his movies if you have tolerance for strangeness and characters who can be very abrasive. I guess I oh, it to myself to see the third one. Now that I've seen these other two. Yeah. They're definitely there. Difficult watches. Yes. Sure. No question about that. But yeah, no. I think that's awesome, though, that you know what you just said, there is probably exactly what happens. Like they just said, we love working together. Let's like let's come up with something that will let her just go nuts. Just go all out and this. That's pretty cool. Well, my next puzzle piece, and this is my last main puzzle piece in after this one. I will give poor Becky something a break. I wanted to bring up another movie with a kind of insufferable character that depending on your point of view. You may actually go along with and, you know, actually really enjoy her regardless and. Probably a lot of people disagree with me on this. But maybe not a lot of people, but lady bird was the next one I thought, oh, which. Yeah. Ladybird is a movie I that I did enjoy. However, the character of lady bird is somebody who I'm just like just stop, please just please stop. And that's kind of the same feeling that this character Vokes it's just kind of like. Like, what are you doing? You're just you're you're ruining everything, please. Please stop. Please. Let me continue watching this movie's, please calm down. But of course, it doesn't happen really. And until basically the end but. Yeah. I'm sure what do you think of lady Baru big fan lady lady bird a lot? I think I think ladybird as a character is less abrasive than Becky something. I mean, well, certainly I mean, he's got the whole punk rock energy and all that stuff. So I mean, certainly lady Burma be less obey. She's still, I think kind of just annoying. You know, I mean, I guess I never found lady bird annoying as a character. I think you can watch that movie and realized she is very self involved, and maybe she's making poor decisions or treating people around her unfairly, I never found her annoying, as, like a presence in that movie. And I think what's fascinating about that movie is that it's willing to give you this character. Who is wrong about a lot of things and go with that. So, yeah, I like lady bird a lot. And I, I mean is ladybird likable as a character, maybe not? But. I think she's fascinating character. And I never felt annoyed. There's definitely movies where the lead character is meant to be sort of an unpleasant person. Sure. And I'm just like shut up go away. It's unpleasant to watch, but and I think that's bad. I don't I like movie where maybe the lead character is, is an unpleasant person. But you're fascinated watching, what will this person do next exact? And I felt that way about Becky something I can see how people would not have would have lower tolerance than I did. But yeah, to me that's the key difference. And I never felt annoyed by lady bird as a character. I was always interested to see her, and I totally agree with you on that. I would say that. That's why Mabel to watch and enjoy both of these movies that I'm talking about here. But yeah, it's just more. So the character themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense that definitely makes sense. You could see lady bird growing up into Becky something she got a punk rock phase or something. Yeah. Yeah. Totally unfiltered. Nobody tells her no. Yes. What do you got for your next puzzle piece? All right. So my next piece is really related, and we were mentioning a little bit the fourth section of this movie where Becky is kind of a recluse, and she's in her. Mansion or whatever kind of not seeing anyone and made me think of Gus fans last days, which is a fictionalized account of the end of Kurt Cobain's life, and is very much about this rockstar, who is isolated in this sprawling yet empty mansion and is adrift, of course, that movie leads to suicide whereas Becky her story has a more hopeful ending or even though it's a little m big you ass- you could argue at the end of what, what that really means for her life going forward, but she certainly doesn't end by killing herself. But, but that sequence, especially where she's just in those depths of despair, even though in this movie follows her having gotten sober. But still, you get the impression that sequence that almost that getting sober was was terrible for her, right? Then maybe they didn't help her and it just made things worse in her life. So, you know, this is another movie. It's been a long time since I saw this movie and I am not a fan of it. It was during that, that Gus van Zandt period where he made, I think three movies that were all about just like characters kind of like walking around not saying anything for very long periods of time. But I think it actually has turned out to be a pretty influential film, in the way that it depicted, rockstar and maybe a gave certain filmmakers, the freedom to do something a little more meditative or contemporary with a fictional story or with the bio pic. So I can see that coming into play here. Sure absolutely. And I thought of that at one point while while coming up with my pieces, but I haven't seen it since it first came out, and I honestly it didn't leave that big of an impression on me like like you said, and I didn't really I don't remember it very well. So I didn't wanna bring it up. But, but yeah, absolutely. And it, it certainly it certainly, does, though, take a look at Rockstars in, in that more contemplative way, kind of the polar. Opposite of something like a bohemian rhapsody or that, you know. Yeah. Right. Well, like I said that was my last puppies, but I do have something I was going to bring it up after. But I might as well bring it up. Now, just almost as a puzzle vigneault, certainly, too new to have really been one. And that is a movie we disagreed on figured you mention. That is a movie called vox Lux came out last year. And yet that is a similar. Similar premise to begin with of a very difficult rockstar. A difficult to watch movie, a movie that really just kind of in a ways daring you to like sit through it and witness all of this, this, this person has created for themselves in their life, and what this life has turned into of just, just anger, and sadness and pain and, and. To me for whatever reason vox Lux, works more for me than it did for you. We did a whole second episode talking about all the reasons I loved it me. And one of the co host Chris crane. But I suppose we could do a whole second on her smell. There's that much to talk about about this movie. I'm sure that movie came to mind for you is absolutely. And like you said, there's no way it could have been an influence there, probably be made around the same time. But clearly there's a whole trend of these movies about these difficult female rock or pop stars tween vox looks and her smell and the recent remake of a star is born there was teen spirit with L fanning, which I don't think either of us have seen that. No. I was on my way to see it, and I needed gas. And it just never happened. Yeah. That happens sometimes, and there's another one coming out. I think in a month or two called wild rose. I heard, yeah. So, so this is something this is a trend of some kind. Yeah. Definitely. And certainly her smell is part of that trend. I did not like FOX walks, I think that goes to the idea of the abrasive protagonist, who I didn't watch. To watch. It wasn't interested in what she was gonna do next. I was just completely irritated with her and wanted her to go away. The trick is to just focus on Jude law. The whole time. But yeah but it has. I would imagine that there are similar influences on both of these, I think they come from similar place. Yeah. And I think both of those filmmakers are have a tendency to make movies that are off putting the audience and would probably take pride in that happening is it's, it's an interesting. Interesting idea to combine, something as joyful as popular music from both of these John, Richard fairly similar genres with such difficult subject matter really when it comes down to what they're actually putting on screen, right? And I mean, vox looks takes on a subject matter that is larger Jen music and musicians. And which to me was another thing that just did not work at all about that movie. Whereas her smell is very much focused on things that typical things that you expect or hear about with musicians the drug addiction, and the infighting with the band members and manager, who takes their money and things like that. So maybe it's more traditional in that sense than vox Lucks, but I feel like it was, I was able to buy into it. More versus vox, locks where in addition to the character. Driving me crazy. I feel like every moment I was like this is this is this is nonsense. I don't believe this first second. So I don't need to re rehash that movie. I didn't like I'll just say before we move on. I'm team vox lox. However, the music the songs in her smeller better something she is a better band. Yes. That way, I think so to go on with your next bus. So, well, my last one, and this kind of is just piggybacking on a little of what we mentioned is a star is born, particularly the nineteen seventy six Barbra Streisand version, obviously, like vox Lux the current version. The more recent version wouldn't have been an influence is that would have been made around the same time. But I think that seventy six version with Barbara Streisand, which is the first one that shifts the story to the music industry from the film industry, which is what the previous versions had been about gets to that idea. Of the bigness of being a rockstar, the idea of being like offered everything that you could want, and it still being just like hollow, and unpleasant. And Streisand is very abrasive in that movie in a way that I think she's not meant to be right. And I think that's that is easily the worst version of a star is born. But the character of I think is, is still Esther is the name of the character in that movie is closer to, to Becky, something than any of the other versions of a star is born. She's a bit more self involved a bit more inconsiderate of people around her, even though, of course the way those that story goes in those movies. She's not the most self destructive one, it's the, the male character. Kris Kristofferson in this case, who ends up being more self destructive, but you can see some of that in the way he's portrayed to and his character. Of course, is the one who starts out. On kind of the tail end of his fame, and you can see that with Becky, something here, this movie starts after. They've kind of started to decline. We don't see the height of something. She we see the end. It begins at the end of their career. And that's something that we get in a star is born as well. So, you know, he'd seen these love it or hate it the newest star is born, and this is a total aside, but I think of any movie that shows the, the destructiveness of that rockstar lifestyle. It makes it look a little cooler, I think a little less awful, even if you do end up hanging yourself in your garage. Yeah. No, I like the new star is born. I think the Streisand version, like I said is the worst of them all and I think the new one is a lot better. But. The Streisand one is is weirdly. I think maybe the most influential, including on the new version, they take a lot from that one more so than the previous two. Sure. Well, I think we're at our finished puzzle, and let's do this, and we'll get into any final thoughts guy, but the finish puzzle for her smell includes Steve Jobs. True life stories of destructive artists and bands, which is not a movie. That's ladies and gentlemen, the fabulous stains, Birdman Madonna's, truth, or dare there will be blood Queen of earth ladybird last days. Vox Lux, not really puzzle piece, but, you know, and a star is born. So that's our finished. Causal. You have any final thoughts on her smell. I mean I liked it a lot. Like I said earlier, I thought it really worked for me. And I can see how it wouldn't for some that elements that I liked a lot about it, including the abrasiveness of the character, and the style the way just keeps you on edge the whole time the score and the camera movement. And which we were talking about before. Elizabeth Mazas amazing in this movie, and she should get it like an Oscar nomination, which will never happen because nobody saw this movie. But she's just absolutely fantastic. And I hope more people see it like I said, it's available on hoopla, if you have a library card, I assume it's available on various other VOD services. If you want to pay four bucks, which is totally worth paying for. And yeah. As of right now. I mean we're not quite halfway through the year. But this is in my life top five for twenty nine hundred. I really liked it right on I, I like I said, there are things about it. I really liked, of course that performance at the center of is just fantastic. I can't deny that whatsoever. And I talked about the score earlier which I think is really great. And there's other things about I really like to. I didn't love it as much as you did. But overall, I definitely think it's a movie that people should check out. Especially if they're open to, you know, kind of difficult watches. Yes. It should have that disclaimer before that. Yeah. That's true. It's not it's not for everyone does. Definitely true. Absolutely. Well, Josh do you have anything else you watched recently? You'd like to recommend. Yeah. We'll speaking of things that are abrasive and not for everyone. I watched the perfection on Netflix, which is a very strange and aggressive kind of film from Richard shepherd who's made all sorts of different. He's kind of a checkered career. But it very much. We could do a great episode on this. I think because it's got a lot of interesting influences. Brian depalma park. Chan wouk and is just a crazy weird asked movie with very intense performances from Allison Williams and Logan Browning. So it's on Netflix. Of course, there's a million movies on Netflix at all times and a lot of them they get lost in the shuffle. But I think lake with her smell, if you are open to semi abrasive strange viewing experiences and you don't mind some extreme violence checkout. The perfection on Netflix. I like extreme violence sometimes. All right. Right on. Well, do you have anything you'd like to plug? Well, of course, we wanna plug the brand new podcast. Yes, we are starting co hosted by myself and Jason Harris who has been an occasional guest here on piecing. It together that podcast is called awesome movie year. And it's going to take on the movies of different year in each kind of mini season. I guess we could call it. We're starting with the year nineteen ninety four. So we're going to look at twelve different movies from nineteen ninety four from the best picture winner, and the top movie at the box office to some of our personal picks and future classics, and things like that. So I hope people will check it out. And Dave is the producer and occasional contributor as well. And that is launching on July third July. Third. Absolutely. And you guys will be able to check that out. We'll have. In the in the show notes, and everything, and we'll probably drop a little episode as a little bonus thing, just so that way you guys can get a taste of it as it's a, as it's starting to come out, but we will send you all the links and all that stuff y'all could check that out. So Josh as always, thanks for being here. And let's do it again, really soon. Let's we're doing another movie with moss. Coming up here we are. Welcome to the world's first podcast. Well, the first one, they've done gas money pictures presents filmmakers, on a podcast for filmmakers by filmmakers about the ever changing media, landscape, each Thursday. Host Jay Horton, and Sean Alden. Read speak to a media insider about their journey through the industry and have survived without going crazy segments. Like, what are you watching media roundup and it's your turn? Give Jay and Sean, the opportunity to do their favorite thing, discuss. What's going on in movies TV and media and mainly disagreed? Filmmakers on is available on your favorite podcasting app, or WWW dot filmmakers, on dot com and check them out on social media at filmmakers on. All right. I hope you enjoyed that conversation about her smell. And if you've got that little hint at the end of the episode we are in fact doing an episode on us this week. Yes, we're finally doing an episode on us. It's been a long time coming trying to get it scheduled for ever since it was back in the theater, but we just couldn't do it. But now it is out on VOD. I think as at the time that this episode goes up the her smell episode. I'm talking about. So that means now that you're done listening to this. You can go rent it and watch it. If you've never seen it before, and get ready for Friday. When us episode goes up, which is again going to be with Josh bell. So I hope you guys looking forward to that. And of course, if you are subscribed to piecing it together, on your podcast app of choice. It's just gonna download that episode assumes. It's up there so you should go get subscribed. That would be really cool. And if you subscribe on apple podcasts, you can rate and review and give us five stars. And let us know what you think of the show that would be amazing. If you did that. So what else can you guys do? Oh, yeah. You can. Follow us on social media at piecing pod. You can join our Facebook group popcorn and puzzle pieces and. Yeah. That's enough things to tell you guys do for today. We'll tell you to do more things on Friday. But I do real quick before we finish up the show. I want to just thank you all so much for listening and the continued support. We've been getting so much great feedback on the show lately. A lot of people out there listening and just, you know, they actually are enjoying this show. And I really appreciate that. I think it's just so awesome. And makes it worthwhile because this show has really grown into something much bigger than I expected it to be and combined with now producing the awesome movie year podcast, which is coming July third. There's another plug for that. But and the Byrd road podcast and then everything I do with music, the pups album's coming real soon. It's been a busy time. But all this stuff as long as people are listening. That makes me happy. So thank you for being out there listening. So with that let's leave the piece of my music as I always do. And I was trying to look for something a little more rockstar. Not not a lot of my music is very like rock rock. But this piece is very good. Tar driven, so thought it would be a good one is called last kiss, and it's from my album and unseen sky. And, you know, I don't think I've mentioned this before the show. But if I've ever played this track before, but there is a music video for this one. I really really wanna make even though this album's to Albuquerque ago already eventually, I'm going to get some money together in a team together and make this video. I think it's just such a cool concept at something that I came up with myself. And I I love and I want to see it happen. So hey, if you're filmmaker and you're listening to this. You want to collaborate on something cool getting touched with me. Let's, let's, let's make are really cool dark, but beautiful video. All right. So this is called last kiss. And it's.

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#759: (Pt. 2) Top 10 Films of 2019

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#759: (Pt. 2) Top 10 Films of 2019

"What kind of show you guys putting on here today. We're not interested in going to do this thing going to have a conversation mm-hmm station from Chicago. This is film spotty on Joshua's and I'm at him one seventy five cents in the move but I mean I mean the movie. I'm Sharon Tate Sharon Sharon Tate Jimmy Hoffa Adolf Hitler as a ten year olds imaginary best friend. Just a few of the famous names memorably resurrected on the big screen in two thousand nineteen that that was Margot Robbie as tate in Quentin Tarantino's once upon a time in Hollywood this week on the show we continue our countdown of the top ten films of Twenty nineteen including our picks for the best. I films of the year all that and more. You're okay with me taking off my shoes and just putting my feet up here Josh Lovett. I had unfilled spotty. Welcome to film spotting and welcome to part two of our top ten films of two thousand Nineteen Roundtable. We are thrilled to have back with us. Michael Phillips how are you Michael. I'm good thanks. Thanks vested ready to talk I pill I feel rested and I get a little shoulder pain from a from injury. Yeah at the halfway point the masseuse comes in I suffered. Yeah I I suffered during A. I think I was trying to swing Josh. At one point I was going to say shoulder pain from talking. I just heard some dopey opinion talk with their hands. I know that and that's Tasha Robinson. Of course Tasha thank you so much for coming back our six of the podcast. Yeah we have discussed eight hundred sixty four films we liked. We're looking at the other nine hundred this year coming up shortly accurate accurate very accurate last week on the show we focused on our out liar pixies or movies that were unique to our individual top ten list this week. It's what we're calling the consensus picks though as you'll hear in a moment a little bit of a misnomer because these things can never just line up perfectly. We do want to quickly recap the the movies we talked about last week on the show Tasha. You're the big winner with five movies as outliers. You were the only one who loved these movies that much which is to say. Some of US didn't appreciate these films but we didn't appreciate him quite as much as you did. Those titles were I did not realize I was winning but I will take this win They were wild rose the drama about the Scottish woman who wants to be a country and western singer. I lost my body. The French animated drama about a severed hand. Making its way through Paris Chris. The Documentary Hail Satan about the rise of the political group the Satanic Temple. Honey boy the style of movie where he plays his own father and tells his own. The story and the nightingale a harrowing rape revenge drama from Jennifer Kent Director of the Obama Duke tied for second place. Michael and Josh Michael Will Start with you. Four titles else that were outlined four titles ashes pure swathes Uson case great gangster film one child nation a terrific documentary About a filmmaker who goes back to her home village in China to explore the consequences of the government's one child policy that affected everybody in her family and her village waves the drama Rahmah from trae Edwards Scholtz his third feature and a great streak of threes on NFL. Nobody saw nobody knows present. Perfect from school of the the art institute graduate and it's a wonderful Colli picture of about a youtube stars in China and just come into the lives we learn about through all this phone footage Josh. You're foreign. I had Clerides highlife. Joanna Hogg's the Souvenir Takeaway. TD's Joe Joe. Rabbit and Pedro Element over Spain and glory so my top ten list. Apparently very boring and predictable. I only had three outliers. Safdie brothers Uncut Gems starring. Adam Sandler. Her was my number nine choice. Alex Perry's her smell starring Elizabeth Moss one of the best performances by an actress. This year I think was my number seven choice and I had James. Gray's Astra Astra starring Brad Pitt at number six. If you would like to see those full list and our rankings you can find it at home. Spotting Dot net and if you miss part one of our top ten countdown you can find that show at film spotting dot net or wherever you. Listen to podcasts again. This week our consensus fix we do have one one film that made all four are left and right near the top of all of them. Josh just had to throw it off had to go. I didn't know we were a little a little bland different and the number one spot to conform and get one took predictability. They're headed for winning here but there worth three other movies. That made three of our listen. If you made two we do have a couple that were outliers. Essentially they only appeared on one list but they certainly feel like films that belong in a conversation about the best films of the year. We're going to start with those and I have to admit I put at least this first one on the consensus show. Because I need to hear everyone's excuse for leaving it off We're going to start with the big one and I have some help here matt singer from screencrush Dot Com and formerly of the film home spotting. Svu podcast is going to help me set it up L. O.. Film spotters. This is Matt Singer calling in with my pick for the best movie of Twenty Nineteen and it is Quentin Turn Tinos. Once upon a time in Hollywood. The last time I watched it I really noticed how important sunsets are in the movie. Like the one over the Hollywood hills in the beginning of the film. When Rick Dalton Cliff booth are leaving their meeting with Marvin Schwa- AUSE sunsets typically suggest endings in movies in the movie business? sunsets are also a magical time literally. It's called the magic hour and that's kind of what I've taken to calling the film itself once upon a time in Hollywood is Quentin Tarantino's magic hour community the sun is going down on Rick's fading career and maybe this entire era of Los Angeles history he represents and maybe the on Quentin Tarantino's career to but they're still a little bit of light left. Thanks guys have a great twenty twenty. Thanks to met singer for that. His number one film of the Year Quentin Tarantino's once upon a time in Hollywood my number five film of Twenty nineteen and he talks about sunsets. That's maybe the best sequence in that film is at sunset when we see all the lights of the various restaurants and clubs flicking on just as that hour turns. And I'm really jealous hearing that talk about seeing once upon a time in Hollywood again because there's only one movie on this list in fact there's only one movie from twenty nineteen. We'll get to that title in a little bit that I've seen more than once. I really don't get a chance to revisit these films as I'm cramming so many movies in at the last minute and if I I was GonNa Watch once upon a time in Hollywood again I would be most excited to see Leonardo DiCaprio's trailer meltdown. After he's forgotten his lines and that I love to watch his character Dalton's on camera redemption that follows I'd love to see Margot Robbie joyously watching herself. Sharon tate in this case on the big screen at a movie theater when her film opens Brad Pitt Making Mac and cheese in his trailer with his dog. Hey and maybe even taking his shirt off and while he decides to fix something on the roof I'd love to revisit Tarantino's use of sound in the movie The soundscape of TV shows and radio radio broadcasts newscasts all that pop culture. That's connecting everyone. No matter what your background or your classes in Los Angeles and yeah I'd WanNa Watch that. Did he really just do that. Climax and see if the fantasy that follows is as slyly poignant for me as it was the first time I am. I think Tarantino to go to Matt's word there's there's magic in cinema for Tarantino and this film at least he feels it does and I think he convinced me it has the power to resuscitate and to restore. I don't think we covered this Josh. During our review one of my favorite scenes in the movie is is the one where Pitt's character goes to the old spahn ranch where the Manson family is hanging out and wants to see. What's going on with someone who I used to know the guy who ran the spahn ranch back when they used to shoot? TV shows there. He was a stuntman. They're participating in those shoots and Tarantino inner cuts that whole. We'll suspenseful sequence pit getting out of his car going to the house confronting the various women and some of the men of the Manson family. Intercut that with a showdown seen in the western that DiCaprio's character is filming and you see a lot of the similarities. It's almost like a Western showdown where it's getting out of his car. And you see his shoes the same way. You'd see those boots Russell along the floorboards of his along his moccasins. In this case right for Pitt's character but it's the set sat here. That's a movie set that he would have executed a lot of the same kind of moves and then shooting a similar type of movie that DiCaprio's character is shooting in that moment. And he's doing it where he's facing off with a bunch of hippies do that. That's not my car. That's my bosses card somewhere to happen. My boss is card. Well I get in trouble lucky for you. He's got a spare it doesn't have the the grandiosity of those Hollywood westerns would've would've had that he was participating and even if they were just on TV. There's something almost tragic about watching pits cliff booth have to confront those characters. Something less goble about it and none of it makes any sense in this. New World is changing. La Landscape is changing culture where there was a certain sense of rules rules to those productions. You understood who the good guys were and who the bad guys were and what everyone was after. What their motivations were who's even in charge and there's no sense what's that anymore? Everything is in flux. Everything is chaos and you're watching characters like cloth and Rick Dalton tried to navigate that new terrain so between the filming of Robert Richardson and some of the best performances of the year with pit in Dicaprio once upon a time in Hollywood definitely one of the films of the year. Tougher me actually to slotted down at number five and we have to go around and and offering a makeup away. It's not our top set yes it can muster any guilt about why ten sorry okay this Gillians reminder for me that my love of formalist Quentin Tarantino of opening scene of inglorious bastards. Quentin Tarantino is forever going to come up against my hatred for sloppy immature self pleasing Quentin Tarantino end of or really the action climax of Inglorious Bastards Quentin Tarantino. There's a middle segment in once upon a time in Hollywood where wreck sits down with a child actress us and the entirety of that sequence their initial meeting their dialogue. Together his breakdown over where he sees himself In his career his subsequent shooting his malfunction after that his return to the set after that that entire sequence is a of an absolutely perfect. The miniature movie in the middle of all this but there are sequences in this movie. That feel just as as sloppy disorganized and I will say amateurish to me as that feels controlled and well-crafted and beautiful for me in particular the ending of this movie at least the again action climax ax is just a complete mood killer. It's a mood killer and it kills everything for me that I find quality and impressive about at this film in part. It's because I think it's disrespectful To a real life tragedy in part. It's because I think it's just sort of badly done. It's comedic and over the top and sloppy in a way that most of the rest of the film is but more than anything. It is a trick that we've seen him do twice before with Django. unchained chained inglorious bastards. If feels uncreative to me it feels like he's in an extremely predictable. Rut where he's just playing the same card over and over again and how the same man can write this incredibly tense and humanistic fluid dialogue where where people just bare their souls or were they tried to engage in things that matter to them and they fail and we see the drama of that how the same man can do that and turn around and t he over word. The the horrible destructive death of of living people. I'd just I find it so hard to reconcile those two men and yet I have to over and over. We're in the same movie. Yeah that's a that I wouldn't even put into my top fifty. I mean I think I think it's a pretty good Tarantino movie most of the way and and that's and that's really the the work of a of a of a arrested adolescent sensibilities not really an adult and I know that sounds miserably condescending. There I go you know And then the ending yeah. I absolutely agree with everything she just said. I think I think it's I think it plays You know tragic recent history of falsely in a way that just feels cheap and stupid to me and and it's not I know it's a fantasy I know it's a lot of things but You know we we already got it with inglorious bastards I I just I just you know maybe it hit me wrong with the whole metoo thing. I just felt like these. He's too. It's such a movie you know in a way that I don't really love I love some of the disappear nostalgia. In the scene setting in the in the evocative atmospheres is fears is great and you know it shows what what a talented director. Yes with about one hundred million dollars can do and also. Interestingly director who was Shunned all digital practical stuff. I don't think there's any digital effects in this film I think it's all or at least the overwhelming majority of it is all just just you know good old fashioned expensive production design and I like that I I I have an astounding for that. Just like he has an analogy for because fading old Hollywood of that of that era and I grew up on all the same damn TV shows. I'm roughly his age a little older. But it's You know custodial jobs factors very strong with picture and of course and and the thing. That's a little tragic to me. TASHA is that it. It is that ending that Ah You know the the the big action climax ending which to me you know undoes most of the picture but it but it absolutely ensured the commercial success of you know it did. I mean it. Wouldn't you know that film if it didn't have that pay off. I mean that's the thing I don't like sure I'd go there. Well let me one more thing. And then I'll L. L. O. yielded floors. Don't they say impeach renew the If if the picture had the had the nerve if Tarantino had the nerve to do do what say the the last five minutes of Bonnie and Clyde does which is. That's a film that has is rollicking really really unstable energy right and a and a lot of its comic for the two thirds of that film it gets darker and darker you know if that if he if Tarantino had found a way to actually just just kind of make the audience eat it with the real facts of what happened that night and somehow made that part of that film he made. Then then you'd have a movie no instead. Did you have two thirds of variety. I forget who it was said. You know two thirds of the film is on my top ten list. The the last twenty minutes is on the worst. My worst listen well. Oil Says I have mixed feelings about the ending of the film. That's why I was saying in my list of things I want to watch again. I WanNa see how that plays again. I was sort of aghast just the entire time that sequence plays out now. I think the payoff of it. which I won't get into but I think that final moment? That's the poignant moment I'm talking about the place in the driveway away after and there is some deserve it does he really deserve. There's something I found. I have to say very powerful about seeing those people on screen. Share that space together. It's something I can't believe I'm GonNa make this comparison but it's something akin to a moment in one of my favorite films from Dryer or debt. There's an ending to that film or something fantastic happens hooley fantastic miraculous or and I think something similar is going on here that I think only cinema Emma can do and I think that's what Tarantino was trying to suggest in in that sense. I bought it but the actual way everything that plays out with that Manson family in that horrible night. The way it's constructed. I WANNA watch it again. I WANNA watch it again and see how I react to it where I'm not in shock and we're also I'm not thinking about the fact that I did just see him. Do basically the same thing inglorious bastards which was in my mind the whole time I was watching it no doubt so. There's there's issues. I want to contend with with once upon a time in Hollywood but without having talked to really any quote unquote average moviegoer. Burn about what they liked about this movie or why did well at the box office. Don't people people want to hang out with Capri. Oh and pit the way we absolutely than any kind of absolute auto pay. Yeah we're still. We're still owed Josh mea culpa but before we found out that he's on my side for one. Oh still being brutalized by Josh. I just a couple of things Michael said that I don't WanNa get too far away from an lose. One is whether rick deserve that final moment. I don't think he does but I I don't I don't think that's the point. I I think so much of what goes on. This movie is about people. Don't necessarily get what they deserve. It's it's hollow. It's look it's a spin of the roulette and he's coming back someone else's moment to though that taking up exactly there's there's a lot going on there and I think whether whether Rick earned the ending that he gets isn't really a an important question for the movie but getting to the idea of Tarantino actually accurately he playing out history in that case I I am really straining to think of any time. He's shot violence in a way. That didn't have that. That tone of arrested rested matters. It matters there's some Abedin Django unchained that that's where I feel the violence. The most is in some of Django. UNCHAINED AIn't and I'm not by no means Tarantino apologists as I'll go ahead finish I'll explain. I'm I'm trying to think of. There's so much violence in that film. I'm curious which which specific sequence if you can if you can go to the tools of slavery and the like ti he. Yeah but it's all undone ten minutes later by some other by by by the antics comic sadism you know he's a sadist. He's you know as as are most talented. Hollywood directors are sadists hard. You know giggling status. Thank you some of those same terms to describe a lot of his filmmaking. So this is why. It's it's very strange that that not only I'm a green with Adam again but I'm not getting to play the Tarantino Villain because I usually do on this show Have many issues with a lot lot of his films. And I find this to be Something apart from what he has been doing most of them except for say. Jackie Brown this is a room innovative film. I think it's very thoughtful for him. Actually Michael at surprise me in that way but the best of his ability was that may be that way that may be but he was seriously precisely thinking about That time what's been lost from what he appreciated about it. And how that plays into the art that he makes And I don't know sloppy. Is it sloppy or is it generous to itself In the sense that what he's willing to let us just ride with Brad Pitt down the freeway listening to music and it doesn't necessarily serve a plot purpose so I can see how something like that might be considered sloppy but to me. That's not the kind of thing I'm talking about it. Okay I'm I'm talking about the Specifically how the violence is staged in a way that almost feels like keystone cops. kind of thing do not finale or previous. NFL Finale ridiculous over the top comic tone love of it. It conflicts with what what's actually going on so let me explain that leads to why it's not on my top ten. It's my number eleven again. This is a a really interesting film from Tarantino particularly. It's it's his third bass in my mind. If it didn't crack the top ten it probably has more to do with the film's ahead of it and and just how much I love those But I do have some questions. I have qualms I mean really if you're not if you don't have qualms while watching Tarantino movie you're probably not watching Tarantino movie correctly directly And a lot of them have to do yes with the violence and how it stage. That's become very familiar to me that I would expect if things are going to get that violent. That's how he's going to house also he's going to stage it and I'm not really comfortable with that either but for me. It goes down to the question of how admiring this movie wants us to be of reckon cliff and I thing which is endless boundless admiration I think that's overstating it a bit. I think it's more complicated but I think it ends up bounded. I think it does end up in that place. There is. We talked about it Adam this conservatism to the movie. Sure and what its relationship with that is and I I do think this world of Patriarchal Artistic Dominance that it depicts in that time it has a real soft spot for and and you if you have an issue with that and you couple it with the indulgence the Tarantino at his worst indulgence which I agree is there in that climax. You've got something kind of nasty And that's where some of my qualms are but that being inside Again the levels to which. It's not only just achieving this. Sit and hang with these characters vibe so elegantly like he hasn't done in a while for me Puts it in the category of one of his better films and makes it something that I'd actually movie worth reckoning. I would agree with that. It's worth seeing. I think it is probably probably in the top half of his but I'm not. He is not the kind of filmmaker from me that he is for many other people. And I'm not a huge fan either so it's just it's interesting to me that it struck me. That's why they're very specific about being your number three. I'M GONNA guess the number one and two and not necessarily in this order would be Jackie Brown reservoir dogs books both fiction pulp fiction. I can't say that reservoir dogs does have a fair bit of violence in it that that does seem to have stakes that he is taking seriously. That's just the last time I I can really remember it going that way. So first film I would i. I think it's I think it's has Django. unchained again. Has Those elements that are comic violence. But I think it's taking slavery more seriously in a way that inglorious bastards is taking a the violence that's going on there but like so many of his films uh-huh it's just seems to me. That Django unchained just such a better job of communicating emotional violence than it does physical violence while they're in your twine for me in that movie. I they're not only saying I wish there were more intertwined and more of his. How about we move onto movie? That has no violence in it whatsoever. We can all agree on that This one also perhaps hops abortion violence of a type. Maybe it's a movie that is very high on your list Tasha and you're the only one who has it not only this high but on your list and we're going to get a little bit of help from a listener who thinks it's the best movie of the Year High Admin Josh. This is Nick from Bloomfield Hills Michigan. And I'm calling in to talk about my favorite the twenty nineteen. I watched long's a farewell three times and I'm still so impressed. By the way is able to mind genuine humor and beat those from the story about complex interpersonal dynamics. Within a multicultural family. I I really love long's ability to help certain audiences maybe understand and empathize with cultural approach. You said death. That's probably wildly different from their own as a white European American midwesterner and and maybe she even invites us to think about the things we want from our our loved ones. When we we reached the end of life the about the unexpected things we eat behind when we leave home also completely resonates with me? the scene with aquafina confronting. Her Mom was he's he's looking for the hearing just completely me and Wong's obviously great writer but she's a huge directing talent to I love the humor. She was able to mind visually out of a her editing and slow motion and the different camera movements and the set decorating So thanks for another great year. Somebody well that's all really well put I thank Lu Luang. The farewell just struck me over and over again for the playful and yet really poignant way it deals with the idea of losing someone in your family it's a partially autobiographical film. Aquafina plays essentially the Luong stand in a young woman who learns that Her Grandmother Grandmother Her beloved grandmother is dying of cancer and that the family has decided not to tell her because in some ways. It's a Chinese tradition to Keep keep people from knowing if they've received a fatal diagnosis under the idea that keeping morale high and keeping them feeling that they're healthy is more important than having having them see death coming so the entire family travels to China for a big reunion to also see the grandmother again and spend time with her but they make up an excuse excuse to do so around this kind of earth. That's a wedding and there's so much comedic tension pulled out of what the grandmother nine I thinks is going on versus what's actually actually going on. AQUAFINA character billy is struggling with whether she should break ranks with the family and tell her something's going on. Just tell me what's going on in that is dying. She has stage four lung cancer. Doctor says she has three months could could be fascinating avenue and yet call to go see her. She doesn't know I've seen aquafina in a a couple of different things ranging from rap videos to her comedic role in crazy rich Asians and nothing. She's done so far. Predicted this this level of emotional commitment to a roll this level of complexity and richness and nuance and pain I mean I'll just come out and say and he hit. This movie is so funny. It's so unexpected. In so many ways and part of that is looking at a culture that I'm not familiar with in areas that I'm I'm not familiar with it. But part of it's just sort of the fish out of water aspect of watching her navigate this Fairly contentious relationship and part of. It's the the big family. The comedy the comedy where everybody in the family is kind of a character again. Many of these characters actually drawn from Lulu relief one of them actually played by a relative of hers playing herself. And there's a lot going on here. That's really fun if you start digging into interviews with her about the film but even just just on the screen. It's one of those films that's about death and it's uplifting and lets you re appreciate Life Yeah Android this quite a bit and I have a most moving candidate From this film when the grandson for the wedding you mentioned who's supposed to be getting married played by Chen Han. He breaks down at his own reception because because he can't keep this up anymore and of course that's he's trying to cover it up as part of his emotional response to the wedding too so the levels of duplicity going on in the real emotion motion bubbling to the top It does capture that idea. You're talking about that the family. It's almost like they wanna they feel like if they can bear this burden for her then she won't have to but still a bird and so the weight gets transferred in a way onto all of them and some of them. It's just too much and you see it in in in that. Same kind of a throwaway scene but also gives you an idea of how long is attentive to all the members of this family. This is a really good film top twenty for me and you WanNa talk about a really efficient and kind of quickly while ridden I seen where she's on the phone in New York with nine. I back in China and she. She and the grandmothers getting the diagnosis right. She's already heard she heard from the hospital at the hospital at the hospital. But she's lying about where she is and the granddaughter is also lying. And all these all these little lies. SORTA just evasions Partly despaired you know out of embarrassment or despair somebody some feelings or whatever whatever this sets the entire course of the picture up. It's really good. It may be the first film based on a this American life episode. That really feels like a whole all of soulful picture me not just an anecdote. It's outside the top twenty for me but a very good film and nine that performance by Jiao Shuzhen. It's one and my favorite of the year I think. She portrays her as remarkably sharpened perceptive. Even if she's having this ruse played on her and she's just got such such a kind of playfulness in deviousness about her that I think is really crucial to that performance. That character working and you mentioned the the craft of it nick talked. What about the the visual humor of it? I think maybe the most emotional scene for Aquafina in that movie. She's really breaking down. I think they're in a room. Where era there may be at the wedding site already? They're planning for it and her emotional state at that moment. Juxtaposed with this pink room with all these light blue balloons and pink balloons. Balloons is such a such a great kind of ironic clash and I love the moment to just a visual choice. She makes where the couple that's getting married and having their wedding photos taken and they're they're against this kind of blue background. It's very bright. And we see AQUAFINA and Zhao Shuzhen shot against that silhouetted completely in black. Almost like they're the only two people people on the planet. At that moment. There are only two people really get each other and are connecting with each other. And there's a line in the movie too. I'm mentioned in our last episode. This idea of kind of free will title and making choices for yourself and going against a society. Going against a family was going to be kind of a recurring theme. There's a line that aquafina character. Here's which is you think. Once life belongs to oneself. That's what Westerners think and she's being told. This really isn't the way it is here. So kind of through line for me one of the key kind of themes of the ear. That brings us to a choice. That appears on two of our lists a movie that was discussed briefly on our last show. We're going to hear a voicemail from contributor. Sarah Welsh Larson had him in Josh. This is Sarah Welsh Larson irate tripping Christian and Brightwell darkroom although I spend most of my time shouting about science fiction on twitter at hat dodgy boffin. My favorite movie of the year is the last black man in San Francisco. I like it's quiet performances and it score but I fell in love with it because of it's gentle insistence that we pay attention through. Its camerawork it's full of carefully framed static shots punctuated by steady cam as its main character skateboards through the city and dreams about the future. But my favorite shots are the long slow zooms that feel old fashioned because of their links and speed there about the passage of time and about about the main character. Jimmy's pride and patient stubbornness. There's a haunting shot of Jimmy peering through a glass door. The camera zooms through the front passage toward the door. So that we're inside and he's looking in past us. His face framed by fog and by the oak panels of the door frame. We get the sense of Jimmy's character in this one wordless shot is his family once owned this house and he wants to restore it to what it once was to the point of painting. It's gables while its current owners are away. Jimmy's looked through the doors. One of longing to return the home and of persistent stubbornness his identity is laid into the bones of this house. It's a lovely quiet shot in a lovely quiet movie and my favorite of 2019. One of our golden brick finalists. This year. The last black man in San Francisco. It's number seven hundred. Tasha Michael You have it at number nine. Yeah I'm I'm really fond of this film film. I mean I I I think it's I think it is you know it was. It was a tough top ten to pick but I think this this My favorite scene is where he's Jimmy's on the bus overhearing. A couple of millennials could whining about the difficulties of living in San Francisco. And you know the the prices cases of the getting priced out the vacation of it all of a legitimate and in a lot of it is exactly what he's been coping with himself. But then the question is you know well but but do you love it and they said well what do you mean. Do you love it here. And then they kinda him on and he says you don't get to hate it unless if you love it and that is so much something that that any not just city dwellers but anybody who's lived anywhere for a while I think can be can understand the end the difference between just grousing but also you know about but truly despairing about what is happening to a place you love and hate you know and You can say that the film is not about gentrification and all because and it isn't and it was very well set up by Sarah so I don't need to grind through the plot but I just I just find this a lot of films attempt for every all all kinds of films from Joe Joe Rapid to you name it attempt to kind of fable storybook quality on screen scene and it is very hard to sustain and it is very hard to avoid kind of turning coy in a little sticky and I think last Blackman in San Francisco actually achieves achieves cinematic fabled telling in a way that makes me think this director Joe Talbot is really going place and he's also the CO writer and it's also complicated by the fact that you know he's the white man telling in a way that you know a black story although you know it's it's a multi-racial story and I think it's a multi-racial perspective breakfast I really. I really think this film is stimulating. As hell part of that stimulation I think is just. It's it takes so long to understand. Stand what it is that Jim is doing. He's obsessed with this house. He kind of haunts it. He comes back to it. He makes alterations to it. He sneaks around it. He's he's obsessed with it and we we don't quite know why and tell it just takes his time in exploring both that emotion and the ways that he he prosecutes at the ways that he he has to do so much travelling to get to that house he has to do so much waiting to to achieve his goals. This this is obviously something. That's very important to him. And we don't know why and in some films that might seem coy in some films it just might seem like bad framing because of that fable quality. I I think that I think you've got it exactly. Nailed in terms of what exactly it is that this film is trying to do that. Makes it so special that fable quality makes I feel like a quest that we're on a journey with him sort of waiting to see where he gets to and It's up there with I lost my body. I think this year for films you have to get to the end of the movie before you have any idea. What kind of movie? You're watching. But the journey is just fantastic before the black thing this was All Japanese till FDR stormtroopers rounding them up into camps. This house was built in the nineteen forties. Say Hi to our neighbor here. Everybody that would actually be about one hundred years late for this style. We can see from his. This gingerbread trim this built sometime in the eighteen fifty nine thousand nine hundred forty six. I'M GONNA have to disagree with you there. Dude man no architect in the nineteen forties building style. That's probably true but this wasn't built by an architect. My grandfather built this. Yeah this is top twenty for me. No surprise to golden brick finalist and atom. I think on our previous show. You mentioned Jonathan Majors. Who Plays Montgomery the street poets slash stage director he was on my CFC as Chicago? Film Critic Association ballot for breakthrough per number one. It's performer and supporting actor. He was two or three on such a good performance and I love the line he gives he's talking about creating art with these neighborhood. Guys usually be rate him. Yeah for being something of a different sensibility. and He. He just says I shouldn't get to appreciate them because they're mean to me and that's just like such a distillation of an artist vision inability to step aside outside of yourself and see the world in a different way and want to represent it that way I think that captures. You know what the movie itself does is in a Lotta ways. Yeah Yeah I think Sarah I completely understand when she says it's a lovely quiet movie and yet I think of all that stimuli that you mentioned and I suppose I don't think of it it as such a quiet film that opening scene that Great Emile massery score and the slow motion and also watching watching Jimmy gliding through the streets on the skateboard and seeing seeing all those faces. It's just really stunner. You mentioned the scene with Mont.. I think that's my favorite scene in the film where he's out on the street directing directing the the guys who are arguing arguing and use it as a play that he can modulate the performances of. It's a film as we said a contender for golden brick a strong contender and we've flooded a couple of times. But if you're just now coming to the movie and want to hear more about it more about the process of making it had a fun conversation with both Jimmy Fails and Joe Talbot here on the show which you can and find over to film spotting dot net if you click on our interviews link. It's right there at the top of the page. We go to another film. That appears on to less Josh. You're number five film of the year and Tasha your number three. It's the latest from terrence malick. A hidden life. I'll tell you I had gotten to a place of with terrence Malick of Oh all his films are essentially the same and they're all becoming fairly grading The incessant voice over the drifts poetic dialogue that that only one characters head. The montage of beautifully shot gauzy scenes of life. The it just sort of sense of disconnect from everything I went into a hidden life looking at the length of it and the the subject matter and expecting and yet another one of the terrence malick kind of become tired of With films like night of Cups and Song Song. This film was such a revelation. -Ation for me To me it it snapped back to earlier. Malik in terms of focus in terms of drive in terms of Having a theme that was important to him that he stuck to but at the same time it's stylistically a more mature Malik than those early films. This film which is about Out An Austrian conscientious objector who refuses to take an oath of loyalty to Hitler. Being conscripted into the army in World War Two is effectively. Just exploring the pain of being torn away from your family separated from your life and given a choice. That simply can't be resolved. A you know either you compromise demise your your beliefs and your morals and you harm others or you take irreparable harm upon yourself which also harm others which harms everyone you love even care about everyone who's dependent on you and Malik with his usual style kind of makes this a film about about the world about just sort of the the echoing monstrosity of this giant space that we all live in together and yet how hard it can be to forge a connection between two people particularly these people who are separated by belief by time and space by Age or experience all of these different barriers that come coming between people understanding each other. I feel like Malik has just found almost the perfect way to express the experience that we all have of kind of living them. Our own heads living with these just echoing ideas that we so rarely expressed other people living with these ideas that that haunt us and thrill list and fill us from day to day and in this case those ideas are essentially about the experience of still being alive and knowing that that could stop at any time. I remember that motorcycle my best dress. He looked at me. I knew How simple I I? It seemed no trouble could reach valley. It's a long film. It's an emotional film. It's a difficult and painful film. But it's just such lived live in film as with all of his films it's incredibly beautiful visually As with so many of his films it's emotionally evocative in just a very very very distinctive way that focus on the drive. You talk about Tasha. I think is what distinguishes it. There's a conviction driving Alex camera this time and I'd agree three. I think that was lost in Song to song and Knight of Cups which were sort of they kind of dithered in this metaphysical Malays and what you have here is something it. There's there's a threat coming to this movie there's a spiritual figure to it that You know certainly was in his earlier work and I would say really defined what I would consider as masterpiece thirty still the tree of life but it hasn't been in his last couple of features and so it was exciting to see that. I mean the camera does float as you describe as you would expect it to but it also prowls goals prisons here and there's again a sense of conviction to that element That gives it something new. I even thought of during those prison scenes. The Work Eric of robots escape right. A man escaped after the setting But also even more so diary of Country Priest came to mind just in the inner turmoil turmoil that this man is experiencing over the spiritual crisis its quality devote a haunted quality but again the distinction. I think is conviction here here because Brisson is all about the angst right the angst of that situation and this movie hidden life works its way to a sublime so blind sort of assurance by the end of it and I think we should also talk about the acting. Often we don't in Malik films but August deal as this farmer and Valerie packing her as the wife they are in sync with Malik camera as it moves about them and that is what you need almost more than anything. If you're going to perform form in a Malik film you have to know how to move as that. Cameras Moving We were just at the joffrey ballet's nutcracker last weekend which is fantastic and maybe think Alex actors have to almost be like dancers. Really they have to have a fluidity and movement and physicality this physical expression because they need to be open and available all to Malik scrutiny. which is this God's eye view he adopts that's watching them and they need to be ready at any moment in every movement in every every scene I think these to really have that and there are a crucial element as to why this movie works? So Michael I'm with these guys. I know you're not quite as enthusiastic. Go now or you Juanita. This is one of the two films ice I saw at the very last minute before before we settle on the list and everything so. I'm not really resolved entirely about WII. I've I've found the film a little on resolved but You know the only reasons that come to mind seriously after kind of a quick you know go to ten ten minutes of reflections that you know I don't know if it really fills out its length at three hours. I don't know if Malik version to Uh kind of the kind of dialogue that he has never really shown much interest in which is actual you know in the moment a person person dialogue log. He just likes he just really lives for the moment where they can kind of take it inside and make 'em interior reflections and I do think there's a lot to admire. This is his best film since tree life. No question no question If Malik was GONNA make any historical drama Based in the twentieth century especially based anywhere on near or adjacent to World War Two in the Holocaust this is the only story he coulda pulled off. Because it's just it entirely into his lyrics side into the glories of nature into just the gorgeous arduousness of it I think the film just feels a little too gorgeous to me for the subject men you can wear. It goes even where it goes. The complained about length. I get only insofar so far as I think. There's some redundancy with the shots of the townspeople shunning. The wife where I understand. That's probably part of it that day to day. Experience of it that he he wants us to experience along with the characters but released new information added. I think after a while we we definitely can move on from that but it feels like like Eden to me. And he's always always in this is that's absolutely what compels him as an artist and more of his poetic side and it's religiously interesting when paradise gets lost lost. Is You know it's going to in this film that happens. All of his fell right. And then the mixing begin so gets lost. They're separated he sent to prison. And then you get images. Lake AAC His wife I like that pays attention to her toil once they've been separated and returns to her on the firearm and shows you what she's facing alone as well bill image slake her Desperately falling to her knees in prayer framed by the humble doorway of their farm and that has sort of that ideal to it but also is showing. That's the pain at the same time. All in one image. I think it's when those those things start mixing that it becomes really interesting. You see the darkness. Yeah I know where you're action Tasha it just that it's Plainly powerful emotional experience for many people. I've talked to many people who really have had a you know like like they did not have anything like that. Kinda Enter Reaction Certainly true-life in a Malik film. And you know the reasons are up there on the screen and the acting and you do notice the actors you know instead of just the famous famous people who are acting right I just have to call it there. I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure yet why I don't. I don't think more of it. I think you're right Josh to call out August deal in particular. I think that the idea that you're you're getting at that. This world is too much like Eden is exactly exactly accurate and I think that eventually what a lot of mouths films come down to is. The world is in Eden except for the people in it you know the people in let are tearing it apart. August deal is one of his tortured souls in Eden who is suffering because so many of the people stuck within Eden Art Art Art heavenly aren't feeling spiritual light and they're harming each other and the way he walks through this film just the torment on his face keeps taking me back to things like Max Von side out in seventh seal or Klaus Kinski in some of Verner Herzog's films his his many Klaus Kinski as Madman admen films. He's just one of those seemed and tormented characters who carry the weight of the world on their face and the conflict between that pain and the lush identified world around him. Just seems to be like what Malcolm is trying to communicate in some ways in every one of his fellow ride right and without words. Really don't you know you don't I need them If you have that actor that face and that scenery right you don't necessarily need what's in and you know. Maybe his instincts correct clearly. It's working for many people. A hidden life is in theaters right now in select cities we're going to close this segment here with a movie that actually is an outlier. It's a film but only appears on one list at least as high as it does. I think at least a few of US may be all of us are overall high on this film Josh. You're the only one who put on your top ten list and not only that you put it at number one. This is your favourite film of Two Thousand Nineteen. And you're going to get a little bit of help here setting it up from myemma Harris Handelman. Josh this is a Harris from the New York Times. And I imagine my true number-one pick parasite will get no shortage of love on this show so I figured I'd highlight highlight a movie and performance. That I feel has gotten a little less shine in the second half of this year. Jordan appeals US is some of the allegory. A little bit muddled shore but from beginning beginning to end. This is a thrilling ride with peel. Proven Get out wasn't a fluke and that he's a masterful detailed storyteller who can create movies that reward upon multiple viewings and more than anything though it's crucial to point out that this movie wouldn't work half as well as it does. If it weren't for Lupita any uncles performance as Red Adelaide. She's disturbed unsettled vengeful vengeful creepy and mesmerizing every scene. It's her juicier yet. And one of the greatest horror movie turns of all time in my opinion. Keep up the great work and happy New Year. Thanks very shy. I think her observations are all spot on gave the best female performance of the year. Let's I think maybe just the best performance the CBS best performance at another level. And I'm also glad that I acknowledged how detailed peels vision is of this story and how every element mint is meant to work. Somehow with. What's going on here? Why do I have at number one? Maybe it's because I'd even claim that the allegoric works in this film. I'm I'm taking off here from the repeated references to Jeremiah. Eleven eleven this prophetic warning to a nation. That's lost its way. I love how US calls us in the audience out for a sort of consumerism or materialism that comes at the expense of others. I think that's the bottom line of what's going on here so it makes me ask Is there someone underground who suffers for the tech guy by for the clothes I wear for the Food I e. How is that produced? Who who has is that cost and this parasite to get to that? I think they are very much a pair and very close to each other on my top. Ten lists but Parasite is yet to come. Here I love how there is an affluent family at the center who we identify with immediately we like we like their dynamics. Hammocks were rooting for them. They serve as our stand-ins in more ways than one in their pursuit of the American dream. All the while there is this literal underclass us who is experiencing the exact opposite essentially so they can live this way now. The reason. This may seem muddled as I suggested is because it's not heavy handed at all. It's it's again found in those details of the film. So it's things like the hands across America. Which of course is a reference to hunger going on in the United States dates in this land of plenty the rabbits? Even you could make a case fit you know. I talked about what we reviewed it. How brought to my mind? Animal testing that's known to have gone on when it comes comes to cosmetics. So I think there's a lot to find here if you want to but you don't need that either. I mean this is just thrilling. It's scary it's funny And all that stuff makes it easy to ignore the prophecy that you know I think is at its heart too so this this was just an incredibly exciting movie going experience one. I got to watch again just a couple of weeks ago and as I would've guessed you know once you're not trying to keep up with the pieces and can just sit back It's even better so I just love us. It's funny to me that you call at the symbolism as as especially working because to me the symbolism works better than the taxed in this case I ended up with a lot of questions about how we're supposed to interpret or understand or identify with a lot of the things that happened the movie just in terms of practical article logistic things. How the start asking these questions? Show all these questions will enjoy anything. Ah The symbolism works perfectly I think the the the symbolism is a lot of what drives the recognition. The feeling of recognition is a lot of what drives US movie and the unexpectedness of the story is a lot of what drives US movie. It was one of my favorite experiences of the air watching this in a theater. Having absolutely really no idea how any of this was going to unfold and that that Lupita and younger performance was just absolutely unsettling and terrifying. I really did love this film. It's a at number thirteen on my list. It isn't higher because I find myself going back in and troubling more over how that individual worker all these the practical things rather than just appreciating it but just in terms of of like Ross visceral experience in the theater. This is one of the best experience all the early on. That's number eleven for me. It just just on a squeaker coin toss. It would have been the top ten bucks an youngest best performance of the year absolutely the best performance of the year and people will do forget about it because it was back in March right And yet the thing does fall apart the thing narrative a little bit at the end. No question for me Anyway L.. Tell you you can go back to the first seen red has where were the were the mirror. Side of Neon goes performance. COMES OUT RIGHT And when you're so astonished to the technique of the voice and the physicality she's come up with for that carry. You almost don't notice how sly lie and and really almost brilliant peel is as a writer there because he's letting you know what you need to know. Delete get into the story three at that point. She's going to explain where she's from. And how it works down there and you it's great and if the last if the last best twenty twenty five minutes had any of that kind of Really Really Shrewd Exposition. All sort of like okay. Here your benchmarks. Don't get lost. We're almost done. You know. Then that film would have been my number top ten easy so I I hate to nitpick youngest performance. You know is just so astonishingly good in the. I mean the opening brilliantly. Shot the funhouse sequence of the. It's all good. Yeah she's incredible. It's another free will versus fate movie veto. This idea of these tethers and how your life is sort of expected to play out and whether or not you actually have any control of it and it's maybe around fifteen gene for me so definitely a movie. I'm very high on. I don't need to get into too much more information about your reading of the film. Josh I think that it's sound and I will linked to an article in our show notes from emily. Todd Vander were of over box dot com talks about the elasticity of the metaphor that it's not really about capitalism but kind is and can also be the about all these other things you want it to be sure it makes a really compelling case all of that said and we got into this a little bit in our spoiler talk during a review of the movie when it came out and and I'm still going to be vague here of course but all of these conversations are all these thematic ideas that are being thrown out. The fact is when I got to the end of that film. What stayed with me? What I'm still reckoning with is that you have to characters looking at each other one who has discovered something life altering altering about themselves as an individual and life altering is putting it mildly the other seemingly aware of that life altering revelation? And all I can think about what is what then becomes those two people now that you have that knowledge. How does that revelation change their perception of each other of themselves as they relate to each other of the world for me? It's the stuff of great science fiction so that's great I love. I love that last bit of the film. And then it's it's more just about the the the the the dance off you know in the in the tunnel. It's things like that where he's got an idea peel. Has This is idea that we're GONNA actually physical. Is this encounter this fight this this fight to the death as dance right I on paper I can see it and it just doesn't isn't quite what that movie once right this so not not seen of the year candidate as it is for me the ballet fight great the jets and sharks rabbits you know not so much well us is my number one film of Twenty nine thousand nine. We're going to hear here. What is the favorite from Adam? Tasha and Michael Next plus. We'll get to the listeners. Choice for their favourite two thousand nine hundred movie with the results of the film spotting poll going into the break here we're GONNA here from film spotting producer extraordinaire Sam Ben Hogan with his pick for. Well you're going to hear what his favourite film of the year and also an underappreciated appreciated. Pick here Sam and will hear some music from one of the best scores of the year someone to hold me too. Close someone into hurt you to D- just a warm up there Santana Haugen here. Spotting producer My favorite movies a year marriage story Reminded me of life. Fell in love with the Marines in the first place All by the Irishman but the movie that Probably the most grateful for this year that I'm not seeing on nearly enough for any top ten lists or in the conversation. Conversation for best of the year is the dead. Don't Die Jim. Jarmusch and I think most grateful. I'm grateful for the movie which I think is Calera but I think what stuck with me. It's just the the main idea of the movie or the two contrasting ideas at the movie managed to hold together which is that? We're apt the world is completely left and that the world is perfect and I love that Germany is able to look at the world realize we completely screwed rooted up and instead of being angry Which I think is an addition to being angry able to just Forgive say like okay. Well if we screwed it up why are we here and I think Germany. His answer is that We're here to love things and to appreciate the beauty of things whatever. It is beautiful car or beautiful girl or Beatles the song and boy. I love that idea. I love that idea. And I held onto it. Like a lifeline in this crazy crazy year. So let's not forget it. Thank you Jeremy over Dan Anymore You're there just you never pay any man. Did this really really other than evaldas. There's a waiting dating every called someday. Now then find find the dares you this now own. Hey Adam David Chen here from the film cast and be culturally relevant. PODCAST my favorite film of the year is Bunk Juneau's parasite aside from being an exceptionally well made thriller take some really unpredictable. Twists and turns parasite also has a lot to say about privilege one of the main themes of two thousand nine hundred films including Jordan peels. US Joker Knives Out Ready or not has been this notion that we as a society need to grapple more with the concept of privilege. How much of it do we have? And what are its impacts and implications. How how exactly does our society reinforce existing power structures and what does that say about us in the people who are forced to survive within them? No film asked all these questions better than parasite which it does so with a great deal of entertainment humor and tragedy all mixed together. That's why parasites my favorite film of the year. Thanks and keep up the awesome work. We get back into our top ten with voicemail from our friend. Dave Chen a great pick bunk June host parasite we will have more on that film. Yeah coming up appear in just a little bit but I. We have a couple more movies that need to of our lists and in both cases actually movies that made my list and yours Michael. So we'll see if will face an onslaught of disagreement from our co-hosts here but we've got each other's back. Yeah I will brook no disagreement. We're going to start with number two film that honestly you don't know how many times this weekend I went back and forth contemplating blading whether or not it should be my number one and it's Greta Gerwig little women Josh. We talked about the adaptation here the process of that even though. I haven't read the book so I can't actually get into all of the ways that Greta Gerwig diverges from the Louisa May alcott story star slamming the novel again. Adam I I didn't I was I was just praising the film because it feels to me anyway to the uninformed the unenlightening feels to me like a unique piece of art truly an adaptation that allows for Gerwig personality and preoccupations to come through and for it to be cinematic not just a translation from book to screen. We talked about some of these choices. She makes the slow motion shot on the screen of Joe Running through New York City as she sold her. First Work. Those direct addresses to the camera that I love the moments where letters basically are being read instead of them. Just being heard Gerwig shows shows the person who wrote the letter talking directly to the camera talking to us like when professor bear gives her the Shakespeare book as a gift and then we see that mirrored later when Wind Joe Gives Her manuscript of her story basically her little women story to her publisher her talking directly to him and I think there's a moment where the Beth character says something like you know these stories. Joe Is written off these stories about their family. Joe Is said they're not important and she says no it's in you writing them. That makes it important. You writing about our lives makes them important. I think by mirroring those two moments the way she does Gerwig is saying yeah. You know what little women is is Shakespeare it should be held in the same name esteem and regarded the same way and the rhythm of so many of these scenes especially that Christmas morning scene. Where you've got each sister? Mr Speaking in perfect synchronicity with each other. It's like notes are being played on a music sheet and yet it doesn't feel like anything but natural and I red Gerwig interview in film comment earlier today. And she said it essentially was notes on a page because she wrote it in a way where she inserted heard of that slash in the script where the next sisters most do immediately interrupt and say her line and then she rehearsed it at slow speed and they gradually picked it it up and picked it up until they could just kind of zoom their way through it. So all those handoffs. Those dialogue handoffs were completely effortless and instinctual and I think effortless and instinctual. How GERWIG makes this adaptation look despite the proficiency of the filmmaking? She says in that interview that she wanted the effect on the audience against especially in those sequences at home with the girls to feel like you're swirling but she doesn't then just decide okay. I'm going to get a steady cam. That's going to swirl around these characters the whole time we're gonNA literally do that. She finds subtle ways to do it. She does it with a camera. Dolly in that space in concert with this dialogue log in concert with performance moving in and out of rooms. The score displays score is incredible and I- swirled swooned at this entire film. It helps that you've got performers like Socia- Ronin and Timothy. Shallow May and flirts pugh one of the best supporting performances of the year and they all play supporting characters who are never sideline sideline or marginalized as supporting characters. They're not just there to serve. Joe Story they have their own journeys and discoveries and agency. This movie just came out Christmas Christmas Day. I hope a lot of people have had a chance to see it and enjoyed it as much as I did. Michael Little bit lower on your list but it did not much I mean I mean. It's the biggest the biggest challenges for an audience especially in audience. It's got a pretty clear idea about about what they like. Auden either the novel or previous film version of little women And that all comes at the end where we get as a very consciously Joe Oh story becomes intertwined with the real facts. How Louisa May Alcott sold this thing and you know? The the negotiation with the publisher sure played by Chicago Zone. Tracy Letts That actually the negotiation and the and the dollar figures we're talking about. There are actually legitimately out of all kinds of one correspondents and it's it's all very clever And then it then and then what happens. I don't WanNa blow it all but but what happens in that sequence is going to delight some people in slightly perplex others and it won't give you the full emotional simple emotional satisfaction of some other little women. Yeah yeah that was it. That said you know. There's an awful lot. I I found that that breathless Gallup at which it was rehearsed and then and then performed and filmed it took me about thirty thirty five forty minutes to kind of you know. Get the hang of it okay. All right 'CAUSE I love fast dialogue. It's like Howard hawks in his girl Friday. You know that's the Kinda speed we're talking about but it seems to settle in about about thirty forty minutes in and then you start getting a few scenes is that are played in a different key. Because they're more serious and She starts playing around with rhythm like a good conductor would and then I was in I. That was really kind of crazy about all of especially Florence Pew as as you mentioned As Amy amy wonderful and I think you know there are some performances that are uh serviceable rather than inspired. You know. I don't know if Emma Watson's really up to the level of Sergio Ronin or for human. It's all right. It's all right it. It feels like a family and the the film feels like a total almost a total success. Yeah and that inventiveness you talk about in terms of drawing from Alcott's own life and putting that into the story that's another thing mentioned in the interview. I read that I wouldn't have known otherwise. The great speech Joe has pretty late in the film where she explains explains that women should be thought of as more than just interested in love or being kind of objects of beauty but they have their own minds and their own. Wills I just I just feel I just feel like women. They have minds and they have souls as what was just hearts and they've got ambition and they've got talent as well as just beauty and I'm so sick of people saying that that love it's just all of women is fit for. I'm so sick of it. I'm I'm so lonely that's great. That's all of that. All of that came aim from another alcott story. Actually that speech came from another Alcott book that Gerwig inserted and then at line. But I'm so lonely which is really really what makes that monologue as good as it is was Gerwig zone into the. That's my kind of adaptation faithful in the right ways. And it's it's it's free handed in in the right ways to and and that's just can't ask for more than that and she's really from one film to the next seven her first film lady bird which is my number one film mayor into this film film really really shows you that. She has stepped up as a director. She is really starting to think through scenes and motion visually the and how we're going to activate a scene and not just sort of the obvious ways but And as you said just sort of in the shade swirling camera thing all the time and it's really how to you know it's a it's a tough skill to learn his only a few directors who come by it naturally Spielberg's one of them who just knows how you know. Have a camera follow people around in a way way. That isn't just a standard over the shoulder shot. But she's already is two films in her career. She's already learned a an awful lot. Yeah I think little women and his capital to use the the top fifteen for me so a very bold remarkable adaptation really. Were you fan as well. Tasha this is one of two few films on our consensus picks that I'd never had time to see. I know I'm going to have to see little women pretty shortly because right after Christmas. Doing an ex pitcher show taping Doing AH comparison of this one to the nineteen ninety-two little women. But in the meantime I'm just GonNa sit back and and pleasantly enjoy the sound of three men to how much much they loved. The passionate. Feminism of this movie about a bunch of women realized themselves in the world. I'm kidding humoring you. Gosh no I adored this movie and I went into with high expectations insofar as I expect a lot of Greta Gerwig after loving lady bird and I had a lot of faith in her as a filmmaker even someone making her second film but the material itself. It's not a story I ever read or was assigned to read or ever I have to. It was very interested in reading and I didn't come into with any of that kind of baggage and was just completely swept if it had been called little men is NATO. Gordon said the book instead of reading the wrong buchberger. All right we move onto the movie. Michael you have at number two on your list and I have it at number three. We both love it. Noah Baumbach marriage story home and it was almost number one for me too. I mean I just I when I saw that of the first time I just I I you know it was. It was the quickest. I tweeted a hey tweeting right after seeing something but I just like this people should know this was the Venice Film Festival which is a pleasure to see the thing. Just kill in the first screening but Yeah this is a simple divorce story. If if you if you wanted to Sorta laid out their way charlie in the caller a New York couple that we meet at the beginning just talking compiling lists what I love about Charlie. What I love about? Nicole is so wonderful way to introduce reduces to their lives as a theatre director in an actress respectively And then you realize no spoiler but you realize five minutes in that You know the they're doing this list gathering and in this difficult conversation at the behest of a divorce mediator. So it's it's basically over the marriage is over and that's the film. That's the film she she goes to. LA He must've stay in New York. They have a son in the middle of this it begins amicably and nobody wants to bring in lawyers and then the the film in many ways to sort of deals with that that long period when lawyers get involved and the feelings get very rough and and the the amicable impulses gone and the two three year period which Baumbach has gone through in real life with his real life. AXA EXA Jennifer. Jason Leigh Although the film is not autobiographical should say You know it just feels like the stuff of life this film. I've loved bomb box work. I love the really nasty acidic early films that many people do not like I love Margot at the wedding which I think is almost perfect as it is I like Greenberg an an awful lot And I've enjoyed almost almost everything he's done but this film feels like a new face for him feels like he figured out how to blend the acidic wit with a more forgiving nature. That may may have only come from His new life which is with his partner. Is Greta Gerwig. So this is a very you know this is this is a whole new change a life for him a few things about it on a second. Viewing that didn't in quite convinced me. You know. I think I think the quota which is a very forgiving epilogue doesn't make emotional sense to me not after the unbelievable acrimony and fireworks and stunning dramatic effectiveness of the big argument. That everybody's talking talking about you know there's a big scene. Ten minutes scene late in the picture were they really unleash the hounds on each other. It's awful and kind of riveting and you know God I knows Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson have never needed to act that kind of seen before and they've never been better. You know so i. I don't know I'm that seemed. The finale didn't quite work I don't really love the Randy Newman score and it's a little much for me. Oakland Man I'll tell you ray Liotta Laura dern ellen although you know three hilariously country Portraits in different kinds of divorce lawyers I don't know I was. I was absolutely knocked out by. Maybe it's because I've been divorced a couple of times Without lawyers thank God. But you know everybody I know everybody every certainly is going through a divorce. I know as as the blue kind of treated this film. I don't know if I want it. I want my ready. And then they see it and they are stunned at how funny it is in the right ways. And they're stunned I think it just how. How roped in they feel and how you know the tip slightly toward the male? I think in the telling toward toward the end which is too bad people are conveniently forgetting how flat out patronizing and marginalizing. Fill my Mike Kramer. Versus Kramer was for a different generation. Whether they didn't they didn't give a damn about the Meryl Streep character they didn't it was all just about lionising you know. The Dustin Hoffman character. This is not that much better. Yeah no it's funny because well it's not really funny isn't it. Takes that have been popping up on social media now. That more people are seeing this film since its release on Netflix. And a lot of people kind of trying to write it off a typical complaint with some back films of it being kind of only about a certain type of person. A certain class of person only relatable to affluent people or these artists in New York and La. Look having having gone through a divorce myself but have gone through it tinge essentially with people in my life road who are not those people. Let's just say and there's nothing nothing that doesn't feel universal and accurate about the way this relationship disintegrates through that divorce proceeding yeah if a film is good enough off. The IT renders that kind of complaint the mood. I think it just doesn't it doesn't affect that. It's not we should be not telling ADV radically different story is not the film's fault you know. But but the film has to work for you to to feel that way and Does is is it a blinkered perspective. Yes it is. It's about you know self involved narcissistic artists who are also charismatic and likable. And they're mixed bags they are. I I think Baumbach unlike a guy like Quentin Tarantino is an adult enough to actually look at a male protagonist and see the the real flaws as well as you know some of the virtues. Yeah it's interesting that you bring Tarantino up in in connection with this film I was just thinking about how many of the films we've talked about over. The course of these two best of shows has been longer films with a whole bunch of miniature sure films in the painting. Glory is a bunch of separate stories. That are all sort of like the medically bound up in it being autobiographical. Once upon a time in Hollywood all these separate stories some of them work some of them don't arguably her smell is two to three separate stories all sort of band together of all of them that we've talked about I feel like marriage. Story fits into that category of of being a whole bunch of disparate segments that have very different tones and very different rent pacing very different directions very different qualities to them but this is the one that feels like they're bound together best the one that feels like they work together. Best to tell will a single coherent start to finish story where all of these pieces added up into a a couple of lives that are intertwined and work together in a tormented hormone. Sort of way. And it's a little hard for me to see like looking back at it from a distance. The sort of like tonal thematic connection between say that that that deep heart to heart that Scarlett Johansson character has with Laura Dern as her lawyer the first time they meet and the comedic like except stick horror of Adam driver cutting his hand open while he's trying to impress somebody who's checking out whether he's a suitable father or the musical sequences or many of the other that that incredible opening these are all just such different pieces and yet I think they all just they worked together other so well I feel like the film didn't fully come into focus for me Intel. That lasts that incredible last AC musical performance. Where I you get? Scarlett Scarlett Johansson and. Her family is singing. You drive a person crazy. As the sort of antic upbeat almost follies esque experience of if they're doing a family gathering and translating directly from there into Adam driver singing being alive also from company in what just turns into this agonized. Create a core what what starts out as almost a gag almost a moment of self abg nation and then turns into a self declaration. I that was the moment where the film came. Just just sharply into focus for me in terms of what it was trying to do and all of these disparate pieces just fell into perfect linemen. Somebody hold told me to close somebody heard me to do somebody sit in my chair and ruin my sleep and make me love being be Somebody need me too much. Yeah that's that that that number really is just completely unexpected. You know they're the fact that they would play out in its entirety and that it would make that much sense naturally in the story and for that character's emotional all state at the moment and the fact that Andrew can really deliver you nailed it. You know he's he's I mean. Of course he's saying an inside Lewin Davis and I think a couple of other films you know we should have known he had itself but My God Yeah No. It's it's a real in ballpark really came alive as a director. He just feels like it's got a swift pace. The ryen cinematography interesting and really interesting the Jennifer Limbs and the editor editing rhythms. Really spiking. Kind of unexpected. That's really good. I mean honestly indifferent for year would have been my number one. It's it was barely number two. I'm glad you mentioned the humor to Michael. I think we kind of got around to that in our original review. Eventually Adam because we've been talking about how it it does get nasty in this film but there are a lot of moments of humor that that lighten it up and ask for the performances. We spend a ton time on the performances. It's interesting in this context where were talking about some of the same actors in other films and sometimes it's helpful to have a coin flip to side of the same coin and you see Scarlett Johansson here doing in something her most everyday person. Maybe she's ever played on screen and then also enjoy your rabbit. where it's it's almost a screwball comedy patter that she delivers ever Salat and she's so good in both. It's also we were talking the previous show about Brad Pitt. In Hollywood and ad Astra doing two very different things both very well and in this case it just emphasizes how good Johansen is married story. Well we now get to some movies that are actually on three of our list getting into truly the consensus picks of the year at least four this roundtable and we start with knives out from Ryan Johnson who we heard from in the first part of this roundtable. I have it the tenth best film of the year. Joshu nine Tasha. You also had it at nine. We talked earlier about how US deals with the dichotomy. Between the rich and the poor we talked about how. There's another film coming up on this list. That also deals with that. I I think knives out forms the TRIFECTA Ryan Johnson's movie in a way Hearkening back to his debut brick stylistically incredibly dissimilar Miller but it conceptually. He started with a genre that he loves the murder mystery. and and particularly looked into specific authors brick is very much based around into Daschle. hemmitt knives out very much based around Agatha Christie novels and to some degree Alfred Hitchcock films but in both cases he takes a familiar genre right. NFL Pattern and then hugely subverts it and makes it completely. Unexpected knives out is a cozy murder. Mystery a a house murder mystery where a thriller author is found dead and the various members of his family who will depend on him in of wide variety. Leave ways all could be suspects. And if this was an Agatha Christie novel they probably would in fact I'll be suspects but pretty early on Johnson just completely flipped flips. The script Among other things he shows you fairly early. On how exactly the thriller author played by Christopher Plummer dies and then leaves. Was it to you to examine. What a murder mystery means when they're maybe or maybe not is is not actually a mystery? There there's so many things that happen in this movie that just feel like the product of somebody saying well what are the elements of a mystery. And how can we change them up. How can we do this in a completely different way? That that makes it unexpected that throws the audience audience off kilter and then all of the pieces come back together assembled in a way that that keeps it fresh exciting the ensemble cast here. I I don't I barely even know where to start. Plumbers fantastic has the The crotchety old author who his supporting his entire family family and is still completely in control. Both of his faculties and of the dynamics between them But Jamie Lee Curtis and Chris Evans and Michael Shannon Don Johnson and Toni Collette all of these people who have very very strong agendas against him very strong feelings of entitlement about where his money money should go. Now that he's dead. Just perform this big sloppy comedic ensemble where everything moves along like. Clockwork sloppy is the wrong word sloppy suggests a sloppiness. In the storytelling. I mean more of a sloppiness in their their characters and the way they express themselves the very sloppy people but everything about the film feels so tightly tuned and then into Armas as the thriller authors caretaker becomes a a central figure Helping a private investigator played by Daniel. Craig investigate the murder and the dynamic between the two of them just become so sharp and incisive and funny. This is a really well-constructed mystery but it's also just a really funny comedy. Oh it's so funny and also has that level at when you began you were talking talking about sort of the the social elements of the social commentary going on here and I've been thinking about especially with knives out which I haven't number nine. I've been thinking about this as the year. The movies fought back in a way. It's been a couple years now since things have been pretty crappy And I think two of the most insidious forces in those few years have been tribalism awesome and economic disparity and the economic part is definitely going on here in knives out. Well yeah that comes off for sure. the economic part. They start fighting about the wealth and we talked about. I did the economic part that comes to play in us. There's another film we're going to get to where it also comes into play. I won't mention in that now. And then Joe Joe Rabbit for me gives that comic Middle Finger to tribalism very much so at least as it festered in Nazi Germany and festers in the US today a a hidden life. I would argue. Also pulling from my list does something similar in a more esoteric way than Joe Joe Rabbit but knives out. Yeah knives out manages. Both it takes on the tribalism that drives the anti-immigrant sentiment right there of this family with the nurse and it also takes on the greed that drives lifestyle. That really eats them alive once once it becomes all that they need to go after the most important thing to them. But you're right Tasha you got to mention how fun this that's the first thing you have to talk about is however it has to work as a murder mystery and I think it absolutely does and of course you're right. We heard Dave Chen to talk about parasite and he listed this film. In that grouping of movies that are fundamentally about privilege. It's what you're talking about. It's why for me. It had to be on the top. Ten films of the Year Ryan Johnson made a political film and it's not political because it features a conversation about politics or anything that actually feels timely family. It's political because it has a family at its core that has to confront though they never do has to confront their own hypocrisy and and by extension. We have to consider how truly different we may be our. If we think we're superior to them and were above kind of this pettiness. I think the movie at least least makes us confront how privileged we as viewers really are and if we're acting with as much integrity as we should in our own lives and I said it during our review. I think that pudding audiences in the shoes of Marta of Onodera. Mrs Character is a subversive act and I think that that final shot shot is twenty nine hundred single most satisfying moment. It's still in theaters. I think in most places if you haven't seen it already knives out. Yeah it's IT'S I. I wasn't sure I enjoyed it a lot and I wasn't sure if it would. You never know which politically minded film is GonNA IS GONNA turn off centrists or the right or if it's a right wing film it's going to turn off centrists in the left. Yeah I wasn't sure I what I think Ryan Johnson as writer director took care of business. You know he he he. It's it's satisfying enough as a mystery as a subverted worded mystery as you say you know and and it's just funny enough and it's and it's not it's not particularly course. I actually liked the fact that he's a really it Kinda just straightforward political argument. That happens early on the picture between the right wing members of the family in the left wing and they just sort of say all right well. Let's talk this out. You know. And and and Johnson doesn't play doesn't play them all for caricatures at that point so he doesn't throw half the potential audience out the movie at that point. You know there's some there's some good strategy if with their first I hope he makes another one like it. I don't know I don't know if I I don't know if Daniel Craig's character the the the Cajun Sleuth these playing here is is really is memorable as he could be. And that's the one thing that might have kept it out of the top ten for me but but it's a it's a great time. CSI KFC as Chris Evans who might give the best performance. He's terrific about it gets said too who often this actor seems to be having so much fun. I I feel like there's a degree to which when we say that we're very often projecting our own enjoyment of a performance onto onto the actor. We have no idea what it was like shooting that film. Maybe it was a grueling process but watching Chris Evans in this movie it just feels so much. Like he's his consciously casting off the trappings of of playing Captain America for so many years this upright moral Kind of stiff a little bit stick up the but Kind of character in favor of this like louche sprawling foul mouth smirking jerk. Excuse me Sir. Art We're officers of the law. You're gonNA run me and I don't feel like talking distraught. You WanNA ask some questions. What is this? What's this arranged? ARISTO DRAWS DILL CSI KFC. He just seems to be enjoying himself. So much okay to hate him and it just it leads us to a place. So many of the movies on our collective not just our collective on our top ten lists all four of us. Are these heavy emotional heady wadey painful experiences. This was one of the the more fun times I had a movie theater this year. Okay well we're going to get into a little bit more weightiness. Maybe just a little bit with this. Next consensus pick. It did make three list Tasha. You're the only outlier will find out whether or not that's because you've not seen the movie or because you didn't go for it as the three years I haven't seen that okay you haven't seen it. It's just your number two film of the year. And why don't we go ahead and let a listener and really find critic here in Chicago who we've had share voicemails before Daniel Nava. Let's let him do the honors payphone spotting. This is Daniel Nava and I'm checking in with my favorite film of Twenty Nineteen There are a lot of very important films for this year. But the one that I keep going back to his excellency Hamas portrait of a lady on fire. I consider to be one of the best film filmmakers on the planet working in any language and she has this really uncanny ability that I've seen in a prior films like Tom Boy in girlhood to capture. We're all at once. The passions the present the warmth the past and the anxieties of future all within a single glance between characters Having gone through pretty rocky twenty. Nineteen in the break-up portrait just ended up making me feel seen and it's sort of film that serve as a useful reminder to not fear ear embarking on a new story which is to say that things don't end at page twenty eight and to not regret just remember. Thanks for having me on. Interest appears to a good year. Thank you very much Daniel. We also got this note from another listener. Nicholas Nick Gonda. In addition to being an unbearably moving love story portrait should've lady on fire is a remarkable deconstruction of the male gaze that dismantles the patriarchal concept of the artist and his muse with surgical precision the two performances is at the center of it by Naomi. MARLA and Adele Haenel are some of the finest of the year in the film's CODA absolutely destroyed. Me For me. It's the most essential film of Twenty nineteen gene along with parasite. So thanks to you to Nicholas. I think he's especially right about anals performance. She does play this young woman. WHO's living with her mother in a mansion on the windswept swept coast of Brittany in seventeen ninety s France Now her mother is hoping to marry her off and so she's commission. This female painter played by Milan to paint a portrait as a calling card to send to a perspective gentleman now because a Louise the woman the young woman played by Haenel. She's unwilling to agree with the scheme. So the painters told pretend to be a walking companion for her and then compose the portrait from the glances. She sneaks of her when they're out together. Why did I fall so hard for this? All right well you know what I've loved even more than Louisa Alcott's little women the Gothic tragic romantic novels of the Bronte sisters or something like the awakening feminist landmark by Kate Chopin and you can feel that literary heritage in Santa's portrait of a lady on fire. It's definitely the inspiration. It's in that sort of world yet at the same time it's setting up. Its Own blazingly original story. And it's also gorgeous. Lee told the imagery here the cinematographers has Claremont tone. It's just breathtaking. Mostly by candlelight lot of fireplace Clo- is what's being used here. The movie gets its title from Henry. Janes Jane's Book. But also this scene that set around a bonfire where Louise and the painter Marianne Their Eyes Lock over the flames. And there's that you know the heat of the fire cast this shimmering incurred in between them and then they hold each other's gaze so intensely that always doesn't notice when her dress begins to burn. That scene suggests there is furtive nece. There's frustration station of all different sorts at play in the movie as well But it's not just a romantic story. It's at the same time registers as a portrait of an artist that asks. It's a crucial question. Should a painting capture it subject or liberate her. So I'm a fan of portrait of lady on fire. Daniel Nicholas. We are Michael Adam you you are as well yes. Oh Yeah. And it's the last film I've seen the could qualify for this list and it was like you know I was just looking for reasons not to mess mess up my list and I mean ten minutes in you just think and I said I was a big fan of girlhood especially in in her sense of craft and we know taste is this is great in a and she knows how to Make period picture on a modest budget and just an absolutely immerse you in the world and Yeah yeah the code is of an emotional knockout it. It's it's the power of music the power of art and the power of remembering really. Just how you treat each other in an affair and how that informs how you think of it later you know. It's it's a wonderful film to go back to Daniel said I I certainly wish him. A Better are twenty twenty than twenty-nine which the same for all of us probably but interesting choice of words there. He said the movie made him feel seen. Because what stirred me the most about this movie movie and it's something a few films. Do I think one of the best films of the decade under the skin does it as well where the act of watching specifically the act of watching through another person's eyes is so central to the movie that your role as a viewer becomes completely heightened and actually charged. It's it's really electrified here. In Puerto Lady on fire we are always watching. What's on screen of course but in the case of portrait you and and the camera and Marianne they they become one and so these? Pov shots that we get and some of the veiling with her character where she's wearing the cloak. Okay you can't see her and you want desperately to get a glimpse over that all sets up that kind of first shot on the beach where the camera is walking just slightly behind her into the right and you're so eager to see her and to really draw away. Well I'm thinking about even later when she's actually started to reveal a little bit but she's she's still walking ahead of the camera. Yeah so you're just you're getting glimpses of her from the side and you're really studying her face and then when she turns and looks at the camera when she looks at us when she breaks the fourth wall then you're simultaneously trying to catch every detail of her face that you can't also being a little bit fearful that she's going to catch on to you that she's going to figure out what's actually going on. Why are you looking so intently? And intensely at her and it just in that regard actively engage me as of have you were more than any other movie this year I had it number eight on my list and other one that very easily could have been in the top five. And you're right. MMA tone the cinematography using Ding daylight and using dusk outside inside the candlelight. The natural light of course the flames inside and outside in some scenes the use use of shadows on the faces and that kind of cream coloring that you get. It's like you're looking frame by frame. You're looking at a vermeer painting. Well how about that one where the two women and the maid of the House are just preparing dinner before or fireplace during the day and they're moving obviously but it absolutely could be a painting but it has that element where the action. They're all doing so. Lean preparing the meal. At this point. The mother is left. They've got the house to themselves. It's all for their own pleasure. It's not at the service of this mysterious gentleman. They're supposed to be courting it's not even for the mother them together. Doing what they want. So for a film that takes on the patriarchy. Okay which is which is you could describes a lot of films from this year as as it should this one has a different kind of polemic mcq style? It doesn't it's very it's got a light it's got the rapier not the bludgeon. You know what I mean. It's very sharp but it doesn't it makes it helps that the men aren't even on screen. Say there's one guy who just sorta drops you seem at the beginning any see that a little bit but it's I don't WANNA use this film to beat up another film that I haven't seen and you know a generation no champions the piano awhile. No go ahead. Michael might not hang that film. I think is something you go back and read the polling. Kill Review of the piano. There's elements of that. I'll just watch the piano again. Okay there I liked that film. Cammy Hammy love poetry of late and fires because it directly references the piano. Its first ten minutes when she leaps from the boat to save the painting supplies all overboard. I was like Oh. You're you're in the woman overboard. That's okay so tosh is GonNa see it. And hopefully more people will see it as it's only been out in limited release acid- open on December sixth and it's not opening wide until February February. Mike that's ways to go now a movie that you don't have to wait to see in in fact I'm going to guess a good chunk of people listening have already seen since. Its release on Netflix. About a month ago. That is the Irishman the latest. From Martin Scorsese and appropriately. Because I know that this is not a movie Tasha that you are necessarily a huge fan of and you like to fight with your next picture. Show show Co host Scott Tobias. Why don't we go ahead and hear him singing? The praises Scott Irish to me on film spotting every year the every year all of those spotting listeners. Scott Tobias for the next big show I think great two thousand nineteen with about five or six movies. That would have been my number one any other year ear. But I wound up settling on Martin. Scorsese's the Irishman I think the Irish one is a film that would be rich under any circumstances but as someone who grew up With Scorsese is a huge influence and inspiration. I was especially touch to see him. Bring the old gang back together For a gangster from the has a much slower metabolism than films like Goodfellas Casino at. It's a film that's ultimately about the loneliness and regret that haunts you at the end of your life and I. It was just so crushed by the film. It's Chris specifically by the final shot that I could barely peel myself off my seat so The ars with my favorite movie Thanks everybody the Irishman might number four. Josh is number four Michael Your number five hundred you explain what you appreciate about the Irish. Yeah well I had it wrong. I prepared notes on the Mandal Loria. So we'll listen to those. I really liked this film and I haven't been very hot and cold hold on Scott says he and I'm less forgiving and maybe less generous and a lot of a lot of fans low. His peaks like taxi driver. And a few others you know mean An awful lot to me but the Irishman I think is a very different kind of gangster picture. It feels like the first gangster picture he's ever made not just simply the latest and and it's he's telling a story that may not be complete nonsense. It's Frankie Sheeran's of you know as a mob hitman and of the teamster may or may not have been the one wax Jimmy Hoffa played by Al Pacino. Here Sheeran's played by Robert Deniro Joe Pesci as the third major character place Russell Cellino a crime Lord on the eastern seaboard and It is it is Scott. said it's kind of just a pleasure to see everybody back together again now. The circumstances are unique to the technology we have today. It's a three and a half hour picture. It uses a tremendous amount of these age age erasure digital technology which allows Peci de Niro and Pacino to play thirty forty fifty year old versions as of themselves although not not thirty years old but in in the win one scene early on you see pushing Deniro and when you hear how old are supposed to be in that scene set in nineteen forty seven when I believe you sort of it takes you back a bit but I never entirely got over that and I think I just have a fuddy-duddy set a peepers you know what I'm saying. I just think you it took me a long time if the film were any less well written on use of expressions. Yeah well thank you. Well you know try to keep it you know twenty-three Guru right and It it never entirely got over the uncanny valley nature of this digital erasure technology. which you know? It's all over the movies now. But it's all over this film in particular but I tell you Steve's aliens screenplay I think is just one of the great adaptations Based on a memoir again that may or may not be total nonsense called. I heard you paint houses which is an as told to tell all book about? I'm the guy you're wack Hoffa offers you know. Do we believe it. I don't know Scorsese may or may not believe it. It works like gangbusters film and it's because the film does have a more serious intention attention than any other gangster film he's made it is you know it's it's room initiative and you know really kind of melancholy and all the Irishmen is really really good most of the way in the last hour hour and a quarter. That's when it's great and that's when it's really taking its time. And by the time you get to that I seen the testimonial dinner where were Hoffa's fate is sort of quietly sealed For the rest of the picture that that that the the whole structure of the screenplay which is intricate but not not vexing. You know what I mean it it just all starts paying off. He start feeling like this is as good really that section of it. It's as good as any of the Godfather two. It's almost up to Visconti is the leopard you know that I mean that's how much he's sort of trying something new it's it's a long way from goodfellas or a film I don't really like it all casino where which was off flash and voiceover and to me you know. That was all money in no L. movie really. This feels like cost almost two hundred million dollars. It feels like it was worth it. The de Aging is something that I just sort of accepted from the very beginning that I was is going to have to it. Because you've been doing it yourself for years. I look wonderful. Thank you look sprightly valley the Casino. We'll see that's that's the distinction right. I was GONNA say about Deniro as I just decided to get over it in every shot of him from the past you sing I'm winding no. I'm not but where I couldn't is in the scene where he goes to the grocery store where his daughter works where she's been mistreated by the boss and he takes him outside aside and beats the crap out of the street. And you're watching. Robert De Niro is a guy who is supposed to be in his thirties or forties. It's not really clear kicking this guy into submission. And he's kicking him like a guy who seventy five not not a thirty or forty year old guy. Not the Robert Deniro. We saw kicked guys in Goodell's and he kicks a few guys in Goodell's you can't really look away from that. Yeah Yeah it's it's not. The film is not perfect. I mean the middle of the parts of the middle of it. I think which is more about Hoffa's offers teamster shenanigans and some of his legal travails in prison. Time Pacino's I I think not really the strength. The film it's it's My favorite I don't remember who tweeted it. But my favorite tweet on the Irishman anywhere with somebody who said the film can really be looked at like this. It's it's the story of three method actors. One of whom reverts to a much heavier nineteenth century style of performance. So the other two guys have to kill him. Yeah I remember who it was. The Mark Harris great follow on twitter re tweeted that and I saw that and there is something to that right at this mob mentality. These guys were very subdued very quiet. You've got the Petchey in Deniro's Alpa Chino the one loud guy and crazy Joe Gallo who Sebastian maniscalco place the too allowed guys any the loud guys in the story of the ones that have to go they have to go and Harvey tells even quieter and his life. He's only like six lines but one of them is fantastic. If somebody I love love that scene. I'm just paraphrasing. When somebody says well we gotta we gotta get them to say who it was and he says Not Going to say. And then tell says who's playing like the king of the the you know the table racist. Who is did he say says no is no now is not the time to not say now say there are so many? Good things about the Irishman. But I when I think about a now all I'm going to here is the five satins in the still of the night and I think it's just so crucial that the movie opens their and also opens with a steady cam. Shot as we're looking. We're trying to find frank and find him in this nursing phobia sitting all alone with that music and of of course it's an echo. The shot is an echo of Scorsese's most famous steady cam shot and going to the COPA in Goodfellas. Right and that has that is accompanied by the crystals crystals and then he kissed me. And it's just a variation on motown that we're getting here a variation on the same camera movement and I think that's is the essence of the Irishman essentially. It can be captured in. That book ended sequence that we get both the beginning and the ending here Just the way that scorsese is coming up this genre as he's defined it in his own films using the same tools but in a more somber Amore reflective more plaintive registers Deniro's performance risk getting. You're not getting any awards heat or whatever that is but I do think that and it's a it's a more reactive performance and the other ones but he does do the best acting he's done in in many years in the in the crucial series on the phone with Hoffa's widow alot. Joe Joe. Yeah Yeah Yeah He. He's he's gotta be. You know you gotTa think positively fleet just you know it ain't that long just it's a workmanlike performance. It's not flashy. It's like what the character free of your a phone call brings out something else. Yeah I think in the character and also in the yeah that opening shot now Joshu remember. I had a little bit of difficulty getting getting to the loan screening. We had an advance of this film and I missed basically about the first three minutes of the movie picked it up outside the nursing in home back in the past going on a road trip that we keep returning to throughout the film and so I just recently got a chance to really sit down and watch that opening shot shot. And you're right of course it recalls the Copa but you mentioned it's a steady cam shot at least my perception of watching it completely different type of shot though right not only because of the mill you and everything else about it but this seems very much type shop. That is being lens by someone who is physically holding the camera. It's not meant to glide it's not meant to be smooth. It's not meant it to be almost this kind of God's eye view following the people in through the back of this club it feels like a person. It feels like a person's point of view. It's a little bit shaky when when it goes around a corner. They look at the people who are to the right but then come back here and eventually get focused on Deniro and sit down next to him and he looks at the camera. Looks looks at that person whether it's the priest whether it's the viewer whoever he's going to confess his story you get it there. In that moment I felt like that that little distinction and the type of shot it is is is really so important and I do want to mention a scene. That didn't come up in our review but really gets at one of the key talking points around this movie which she is the way score says he uses women the lack of dialogue. However you want to look at it you know? I'm on record thinking that the way Peggy's used in the film ELM is really crucial and that she's effectively. The Eyes of God always judging Franken knowing her father's every sin but there's a moment I love early early in the movie where the camera goes to Russell's wife who's in the backseat and the voice over is explaining that she's mob royalty loyalty that she comes from this family in Sicily. And it cuts to Russell Joe pesci walking in the front door of his house and his shirt his covered in blood. He's obviously younger. He's covered in blood his wife. She walks down the stairs as soon as he opens the door been waiting up for him clearly soon as she hears them. She walks down the stairs to greet him. Jim Russell doesn't say where he doesn't say a word in the entire scene that look on his face is that he is just seen and probably on his own committed some some horrors that can never be unseen or undone. He is white as a ghost as she stands before him kind of tenderly and tells him to go wash up should get rid of the clothes. Says don't forget your shoes as you go up the door still no words from pedophile. He complies takes the shoes. Off Shuffles upstairs. It tells you everything you need to know about the deal. This couple struck with each other when they got married the rolls. They know they have to play. And it's really twisted in disturbing and a lot of ways and at the same time somehow really touching and I love that scene but also I wanted to bring that up just to go ahead and also plug that Melissa Tamika who's been a guest on this show. A couple of times wrote a great twitter thread about the use of women in the film and Irishman is number one film of the year. I think it's a seventeen scene. tweet thread that's over available obviously on twitter and a link to it in our show notes if you are curious about that discussion point surrounding the Irishman. Now now we have the three of us been raving about this movie. TASHA has been patiently waiting building or coast to tell us how wrong we are. And how unmoved she is by every single thing. We've said to begin. Where where should we just move on so wrong or okay? So here's the the thing about this when it comes to filmmaker like Martin Scorsese who people love out of all possible proportion to anything it it gives me no particular joy to fight upstream on this one. There are films that I feel strongly about Defending against all comers. There are films that I feel L. strongly about tearing down because I lo- them despite what other people feel about them and then there are films like the Irishman which with while with a with a major ager exception which we'll get to. I mostly just found tedious. I I am really quite tired of his GOUMAS. I'm really quite tired of his endless parade of of mobbed up gangster thugs. Who for the most part? Don't seem to display a great deal of Inner life or self awareness and who just sort of March through these stories towards their inevitable doom with with no sense of self awareness or understanding as they murder each other for or falling out of favor with this this person or that person for saying or doing this thing wrong or that thing wrong that there. The next one's on the chopping block. I just find the whole parade raid tiresome. This movie in its last half hour particular goes to a place that I've never seen Scorsese go and I found it really. Impressive live in exciting and dynamic and tragic and melancholy and moving and emotional like all of these things that I did not need the previous three hours of moral compromise and a moral murder To get to like I've I've gotten all of that out of his career. Already I know the beats and the rhythms of how these men live their lives the choices they make the decisions to hurt other people to decide that other people's lives are unimportant to pursue money or to to climb the ladder of these criminal organizations. I know all of that already. There's just no reason to me that this couldn't have been a two hour movie with a lot more focus and a lot more delving into francs inner life as it is it is it just feels like an accretion. Seven of event in many ways without a whole lot of consequence I really found out. Pacino's Jimmy Hoffa to be an interesting character actor but there's just so much trivia around his life there's so much trivia round the ups and downs of politics and who knew who and who was angry at who and who voted for WHO and I just. I didn't see what it added to the central story about how a couple of people's lives were lived and how they affected other people people and and what they came to in the end and saying all of this given I like I know I know I speak for some people at least because I put a very very small part of this out into the world and had people coming in thank me for for being willing to say it because it's it's hard to wave the flag of I just don't love Martin Scorsese but at the same time when I say any of this I feel like like uv bowl stepping to the boxing ring. And saying you know come fight me world world the you know the first person with a an actual swing is just going to like take him down in one. I don't hate this movie in a way that that makes decrying saying it. Sure you'll important. Yeah I it just makes me feel tired which is funny that the inverse of the response that you had and That I had with the with. What's my time in Hollywood? Were they were. The ending undermines or sort of UN does whatever's good in the in the in the front end of it. You know this is very much in in a pattern with a lot of the movies. We've been discussing of feeling like a whole bunch of different like fragmented stories and because it Scorsese and because he has has just such an interest in this one particular type of world this particular type of character they do all feel much more like parts of the same story then say her smell or or marriage story. Somebody's other films too. But that said it feels very episodic and very chapter oriented and just a lot of those chapters. I could've done without Out well before we get to the number one film of the year at least according to Tasha Michael and myself yes. There's going to be harmony. There's going to be some agreement as we get to. You are number one film and judges number three a couple of weeks back we asked you. What is the best film of Twenty Nineteen? We gave you three options. It's either the film we just discussed. Moscow says he's the Irishman or Quin Tarantino's. Once upon a time in Hollywood or parasite from Juno. You could also go go other any other film from this year. That's not one of those three that you love that. You want to declare the best film of Air Josh. How did it come out while Tasha? This might speak to some of those people you've been hearing from about the Irishman and actually placed last in our poll Scorsese film with twelve percent of the vote other received twenty two percent of the vote and here are some of the popular writings in that. Category Marriage. Story the lighthouse. Oh another mentioned for the lighthouse in this two parter. Adam like to see that that would be the only one. I was wrong. Portrait portrait of a lady on fire also was a write in consideration the farewell knives out midsummer Joe Joe Rabbit. Tarantino's once upon a time in Hollywood came in second place with twenty three percent of the vote but winning it long Juneau's parasite forty three percent of the night not a divider. It apparently is and we actually haven't had this much agreement about the year's best film from our listeners. Maybe ever at least if you look at the last three or four years of polls other has been the winner. Thirty two percent last year thirty eight percent the year before back in Twenty Fifteen Mad Max. Fury Road even didn't have more than forty three percent. Only thirty eight percent percent of the vote so parasite pretty decisive winner there among our listeners and a pretty decisive pick for the rest of us. We're going to share one. One more listener voicemail here special guest sharing his affection for parasite hi. This is griffin from the blink. Check podcast and This year's overlong toy story episode of phone spotting my two favorite films of the year are us us and parasites I still have a lot of blind spots to cover for the year and I'm still trying to shake my top ten but those are the two foams that certainly continue to stick in my craw. I think there's a lot of overlap between the two There alternately funny and terrifying they're sort of masterclasses from their filmmakers in how to ratchet tension and they're both about the same central subject to me which is how can you know in a capitalist society. Whatever position you're at requires the choice to ignore the people below you To some degree or another And both of those films take that very very literally So those are my two favorite films of the year We'll we'll see which one ends up shaking out to my number one Not Super Bowl choices. I'm sure other people are for them on this episode. But that's where I landed. Thanks for another great year of the PODCAST and I hope I get to come on sometime in twenty twenty to Guest host with Josh. And explain why Adam is wrong wrong about everything thank you griffin for that one of my favorite episodes of the year talking to Griffin about toy story and that entire universe. We shared our top five toy story remo moments and what an appropriate way to finish not only putting a bow on this idea of class conflict and the privilege that came up in and so many of our other picks but he went with Thai parasite and us the movie. Josh you had at number one. He's got me covered so parasite the only movie that made all four of our less in something over the years. That actually hasn't happened too. Many Times. Bongino film I'll throw out to the group or or lease the group of us that picked it as the best film of the year. Why is it the film of Twenty Nineteen? I'm a deferred TASHA. 'cause I wanna hear what she has to say I like enthused thing about movies is so much more than I like. Shooting down movies I had the opportunity A few months ago to lead a group of strangers in a discussion at this film and I asked them exactly that question. Why do you think this movie has taken off in the way it has wide? Is it so popular. Why is it making so much money? Compared to any other international release you can point to this year and they had a wide variety of answers. They said well it's it's really funny. They said well. It's really surprising. It's really really unexpected. The reveals are really great. They said they had a lot of A lot of contention about it. They had a lot of questions. They had a lot of debate topics. Just the fact that speaking to a room of twenty people I got back so many different responses on that question to me really spoke to what the actual answer or is which is just. It's it's a very unexpected experience. That gives back a lot to a lot of different people whether you go in looking for that that class dissection that attack on economic disparity or whether you go in looking for a fun twisty heist movie about this group of con con artists putting one over on a bunch of Rich people who they feel are over privileged and out of touch or whether you're looking for a family drama about a a family that has to have to pull together and cooperate in order to survive or whether you're looking for a thriller with a bunch of really unexpected plot twists in it. You'RE GONNA you get all of those things in one this. I mean the the premise of parasite screwball comedy. Yeah it's okay identity. It's like a family down on their luck. Marginally employed family of four you know decides to one at a time pose as as chauffeur as a made aid as an art tutor. And as an English Tudor I believe in suddenly. They're all in this household living large but they have to pretend not to know each other. This is screwball comedy. The film is that for a while. And then it's something very different and the it's it's those it's those mood shifts and sorta there's genre shifts that are just you know the hose a just a just an absolute master. This and I don't know I really. I think you're right. It's just simply it's almost like the top Arousa for for this year. You look at it you you get the movie you want out of it and somehow doesn't play indecisively or are like a generalization. It feels like a very specific story. Rigorously well told visually and It it's just it's just it makes me feel good about about the About actual theatrical film going in twenty nineteen which is so imperilled and it is really not easy to get an audience out to a foreign language picture picture of any kind these days in this twenty million dollars later looked at parasite. Yeah echoing those comments. Listener Adam Grossman Vancouver. wrote in said what surprised me most was how funny Linnea was just so so funny until very quickly. It's not funny at all how long Juno manages to master this tunnel switch. What makes him? The masterful directory is whatever. Tone parasite takes is a truly brilliant parable of the fortunate realities of class. Divide agree with everything Adam said and it's funny. We spent so much time over this two part roundtable talking about all of the despicable characters that we were either turned off by or fascinated by on the screen this this year and that's one of the aspects of this film I love the most. Is that in their own way. You can write off pretty much every player in this movie as pretty loathsome they're seeking their own rewards. They're being pretty selfish now. There's a family element where they're trying to just subsist and they are also trying to support each other but the decisions they make and the harm they cause other people you have to. You have to examine that and you have to to consider all of that so all of these characters making really terrible decisions that we judge them for and somehow without resorting to any sentimentality or any real real storytelling tricks by the end of the movie. Bongino makes me feel for every single one of those characters like they all go from perpetrators to victims and their away or at least people apply sympathize with. It's remarkable the way he handles violence too. You know it's it's just too again. It's it's it's the work of grownup you know. I mean the film gets very violent at the end. And it's sort of retribution. Revenge you know style splatter I guess but it's not really just meant to be showy or cool in the way that there is comic violence though which is interesting And that that speaks to just go back to the idea of. It's humor to emphasize that you're right Michael. To put that at the forefront Griffin mentioned it as well and I would say if you're going to watch this. It's trying to watch this with someone who laughs out loud the the first time I saw it. it was in a theater small theater not during the day so not a lot of people in the audience and I myself was trying to keep keep up with it you know. Yeah and so. I probably laughed here or there but the second time was at home the screener and my brother-in-law sister-in-law were over and he was just from the beginning. Just cracking cracking up at this thing and I and I was. You know a little looser the second time around to just appreciate it as you're right. Michael This crew ball comedy that also so does have all of these other elements onto it. So yeah parasite could have been my number one. I mean you're really The gap between this and awesome portrait of a lady and fires. It's infinitesimal so I it's just such a wonderful film in so encouraging to see as you said Michael Audiences mainstream audiences responding responding to it. It's that sort of thing that really does give you hope for for the movies. In the future so cohesive I mean despite all of those total shifts. Despite the fact it could have had a very episodic structure given the way the story is told with each of the members of the poor family one by one putting on a pretense in order to infiltrate the the rich family. This could've so easily been like so many of the other films we just discussed with a whole bunch of miniature stories in different tones. Different different styles Kind of shifting together and and kind of trying to hold together and one thing instead it just it all feels like a single perfect story. The feels solid and well realized in a way that that so many of the other interesting idiosyncratic experiments. We saw this year. Didn't so many. Any of these films are idiosyncratic because they feel like artists to kind of following their muse randomly through a field wherever they go swerving going down hills. Going going underground coming back up into the sky all over the place. This film just feels so planned so planned plotted and thought through at every step of the way he you feel like you're in somebody's hand the whole time. You wonderful. Yeah for me. That's why it's the achievement of two thousand nineteen and it's my number one guy somehow. That's our top ten of twenty nine thousand nine countdown executive produced by tar related. We probably could have done without the fifty fifty minute discussion segment. That was just US walking across the field next to a donkey true true. We'll cut that out next time. If you want to refresh your memory on our picks if you want to see what order we put our picks in go to film spotting dot net slash lists Tasha. Michael can't thank you enough for all all of your insights your generosity. Even when you were being mean and decrying my choices or Josh Choice. It was it was a warning experience. Always great eight to remember how much good work we actually saw this year. And I think as I said before it's a year that made going to the movies and really watching the movies the same way. We have been almost impossible. It's just been distracting life. The strip really distracting media life and it took work. This take our minds off and Michael Ware can listeners. Find more of your work. You know the best way honestly is twitter Phillips Tribune And if you really wanted brave free the tribune's web site to Chicago Tribune dot com slash movies Tasha. What about you you can find my writing? POLYGON DOT COM. You can hear me talk more about movies reviews at the next picture show podcast with my frenemy Scott who we heard from earlier today and My less less fraught Po Ko podcasters Keith. Phipps and genevieve Kofsky at necks. Pitcher POD DOT net. You can find me on. Twitter in there is where you can tell me how wrong I am about the Irishman. It's okay there's a But also I'm strong and wants to put it. I'm in Hollywood and everything that Josh recommended. And the part one of this show basically how just all All films that I have opinions about tough I can take it again. We'll always have hobson. Shaw we will always have hobbs show or at least the one. Seen in Hobson show we totally agree agree completely rocks. I'll take it on twitter at Tasha Robinson. Thank you so much again. If you want to head to the show archives you can find reviews interviews top fives that go all the way back to two two thousand five. That's at film spotting dot net also on the website the current films spotting poll. What films should win? The Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Golden Brick Award your vote counts. 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311. Skin Grafts

Surgery 101

23:31 min | 6 months ago

311. Skin Grafts

"Hello and welcome back to surgery one on one. The podcast brought to you by the health of the department of surgery at the university of alberta. My name is jonathan white coming to you from the royal. Alexandra hospital here in edmond in weeks episode we hearing from medical student. Alex perry on the subtext skin. Grafts he's going to explain what a skin graft is and how it works is going to look at the reasons why you might need a skin graft and explain how you choose between split thickness graft on a full thickness graft. He's going to consider how you look. After patients whose had a recent skin graft i look at some of the complications that can occur from skin grafting will so less ready to graft some skin here on surgery one. Oh one hello. My name is alex perry. I'm one of the fourth year medical students at the university of alberta out. I like to thank michelle lueneburg and dr jonathan white from surgery. One one for helping to create this episode. I would also like to thank dr brandon ball for being the content expert and providing input about the salient points of skin grafting after listening to this episode learners will be able to describe the basic physiology of skin grafts list the indications for skin grafting explain the differences between split thickness grafts and full thickness grafts. As well as their respective disadvantages. Lists the complications that can occur from skin grafting and outline the post operative care and expected outcomes of a patient with a recent graft. Let's jump right in. With the case we are being called to the emergency department to assess a twenty three year old male. Dean davis dean works as sous chef at a restaurant and earlier today. He accidentally spilled a pot of boiling oil onto his chest. on arrival. you find dean lying on a bed with his chest. Exposed in a large burn that extends across his chest and abdomen. Although the burns looked quite extensive dean does not complain much pain. The wounds clearly demarcated with the inside of the wound being distinctly white and insensate suggestive of a third degree burn. At this point your precept returns to asks. Does he need a skin. Graft you might be asking yourself what is a skin graft. Skin grafting is a wound closure technique used in patients with major skin losses secondary to acute or chronic injuries such as ulcers burns trauma or surgery skin grafting is most commonly associated with the type of grafton called auto grafting this involves taking healthy skin from one part of the body the donor site and moving it to an area with the defect the recipient site other types of grafting techniques include allographs. Where skin is commonly taken from cadavers. Encino grafting where skin is used from another species. These are most helpful in scenarios where there are insufficient donor sites available to cover wound. You may have heard the term skin flop and it is important to note that skin graphs are linked from skin flaps both techniques involve harvesting tissue from one part of the body in transferring elsewhere however unlike skin flaps skin graphs do not bring an independent vascular supply to its recipient site. Skin graphs can be thought of as a skin flap without any blood supply. Typically skin graphs are more often used to close large superficial wounds effects that possess adequate vascular garrity will skin flaps are used when there are large defects and soft tissue that may involve the transfer of muscle or bone more on that later to determine whether or not dean needs a skin graft. We require more information. On how extensive the burners but firstly. Let's talk a bit more about the physiology of skin graphs. And they're indications skin graphs should be considered for large or chronic wounds. That are unlikely to heal on their own by secondary intention and are unable to be closed by primary intention. Skin grafting is thought to originated from ancient india and practiced as early as twenty five hundred bc. However it is only since the eighteen seventies that we've begun to understand its physiology. Skin graphs are made up of two basic layers the epidermis and a variable amount of durmus now truly wounds can epithelial is in one of two ways. From periphery of wound. Edges or from the epidermal appendages. Such as sweat glands and hair. Follicles contained within the germans wounds stripped of the durmus can only apathy allies from periphery and will exhibit prolonged healing process and may not close at all skin. Grafts replace these layers to expedite healing in addition to reducing the amount of scarring and contraction that might otherwise occur if a large wound was left to heal by secondary intention alone. This can prevent or at least limit the development of wound contraction that can result in functional impairments when a skin graft is placed into a wound. Bed there are three stages it undergoes plasmatic ambition in secularization and reebok utilization plasmatic ambition occurs within the first twenty four to forty eight hours and is a passive process relying upon tragedy date secreted by the wound bed because skin grafts are not transplanted with their own vascular there. Initially reliant upon passive nutrient diffusion for the first few days before blood vessels can grow into the graft in circulation follows at forty eight to seventy two hours where the pillory buds aligned between the graft and the wound bed lastly re vascular station occurs around days four to six with new vessels and pillories grow into the graft as per the stages of graph take their survival of graft is heavily reliant upon the conditions of the wound bed ideally recipient sites should be well vascular rised free of devitalized tissue and significant contamination with less than ten to five organisms per gram of tissue for optimal graph. Take negative pressure wound. Therapy is sometimes used prior to grafting in where to prime the site by promoting the formation of new granulation tissue and shrinking the size of the overall wound. At this point you think that s graft might be appropriate you asking about his medical history to find that he is a fairly healthy individual without any medical conditions however on social history. He does note that he took up smoking about two years ago since he started working at the restaurant. Is this a contra indication to receiving skin grafts with regards to skin grafts. Smoking itself is not an absolute contraindications. Smoking does worsen overall healing in part due to its vasil. Constrictive effects of nicotine and the lower oxygen content due to carbon monoxide skin grafts in these individuals should be carefully monitored and should be advised to stop smoking particularly after the time of surgery. Other factors that may affect wound healing and should be screened for include autoimmune conditions diabetes. Anemia steroid use prior radiation and malnutrition. Identifying these factors beforehand can help limit the potential complications absolute contra indications to skin grafting include malignancy active infection uncontrolled bleeding and grafting to a vascular wound sites skin grafts placed in wounds exposed tendon cartilage or bone lacking paragon pair cartilage and perry austin generally fail as structures lacked the vast majority required to sustain a graft these wounds in addition to wounds with exposed neuro vascular structures are better managed using skin flaps after completing your thorough medical history. You conduct a physical exam with your precepts present based on the exam you determine that dean hasn't isolated but extensive third degree burn occupying approximately eleven percent total body surface area preceptory degrees in states that his wound will need to be derided and subsequently grafted due to the suspected depth of injury by this time. Deans mom debbie who is now in the emergency department has arrived and is extremely concerned both herself and even want to know what the plan is. What kind of considerations should be made for someone and specifically dean who is receiving a skin graft and what should be discussed during consent. Debbie dean are sat down to discuss the plan. We start by explaining that we suspect that because the area on dean's chest and abdomen have no feeling that the burns deep that the tissue is no longer alive and that we are planning to move this dead tissue. Afterwards we plan to take pieces of skin from elsewhere on dean's body to cover the area. That was derided help with the healing process and wound closure. We discussed the possible complications to dean. Debbie we outlined that as with any surgical procedure their potential risks and complications for dean. We've done a thorough medical history and with the exception of his smoking. We believe that. Dean does not have any contra indications to doing the proposed procedure we advised dina debbie that common complications of surgery include infection. Blood loss pain damage to deeper structures and fluid accumulation other more specific complications of skin grafting include altered skin sensation in ability to heal. Necrosis skin discoloration and contour irregularities debbie now asks. What if dean doesn't get any surgery he seems like he isn't in that much pain. We tell debbie that because dean does not have any feeling to the area makes us suspect. The damage is bad enough. The tissue there is already dead and will likely show more signs of necrosis at a later time. Keeping the tissue could pose a potential source of infection. An alternative option is that after debris we could opt to not do any skin grafting where the skin could heal on. Its own by secondary intention. However the area will take longer to he'll be more likely to heal unsatisfactorily and could cause impairment due to scarring non surgical options. Include the use of negative pressure. Therapy dressings which could be used expedite healing but we would recommend using a combination of skin grafting and negative pressure dressing after hearing this dina are more inclined to pursue surgery when deciding on what options to best pursue. We now need to decide on which type of skin graft how it will be harvested. And which treatment will be best for dean skin graphs can be classified into two types split thickness gain graphs and full thickness skin graphs. The difference between the two is the amount of durmus included in the graft full thickness gingrass take the epidermis and the full thickness of the germans wall split thickness skin. Graphs include the epidermis at only part of the durmus as a result full thickness skin grafts tend to be more durable than split thickness skin graphs. The range of split thickness skin graphs can be further classified into thin which is six to twelve thousand seven inch intermediate twelve to eighteen thousand seven inch and thick eighteen to twenty four thousands of an inch. The thickness is selected in part by the size and location of the wound which will dictate its vascular already. Certain areas of the body such as the face are known to be highly vascular and better for grafting the patient demographic is also important for adults such as dean they are more likely to receive an intermediate thickness split thickness skin graft adults generally utilize thicker graphs relative to children and the elderly who receive thinner. Skin grafts aside from the thickness split and full thickness skin graphs. Different how they are harvested their later sensibility. In cutaneous functions capacity for graft expansion survivability and contraction because dean's burns are relatively large but not in an area that is imperative to have a significant amount of sensibility a split thickness skin graft is the most appropriate option. It is also not in a location that is expected to receive a lot of shear forces a split thickness graft also has the advantage of being mechanically expanded through what we call meshing. We will discuss this topic in a moment to harvest a split thickness skin graft a tool called dermot. Tomas used a dermot. Thome is an air or electric powered cutting tool used to cut a graft at a specified thickness in width harvesting. The donor sites in split thickness graft are left to heal by secondary intention. The donor site can be reused. Typically after one or two months however the number of times the site can be reused is limited by the amount of remaining durmus if we were to have pursued the option of harvesting a full thickness skin graft for dean full thickness. Skin grafts are harvested manually using a freehand technique with scalpel. The skin is taken to the level of the subcutaneous fat and must be defended before grafting unlike split thickness donor sites full thickness skin graft must be closed by primary intention the locations of donor sites between full and split thickness grafts also differ full thickness donor sites tend to contain thinner skin and include areas such as the upper eyelids pre regular post regular superclub accuser and mellow labial regions of the face. The flexor crease of the wrist. The anti cubital fossa of the arm and hairless regions of the coin. In contrast split thickness grafts can be harvested from any part of the body but commonly include the scalp super click areas antra lateral thigh back abdomen buttocks for most people including dean. The most commonly utilized site is the upper thigh. The donor site selected in both split and full thickness grafts should reflect the color texture presence affair and thickness of their scipion site. The amount of skin ease of access and subsequent scar visibility should also be considered full thickness grafts maintain the possibility for hair growth. Unlike split thickness grafts. This capacity is maintained from the donor site other functions. Such as sweating are soon from the site after sympathetic nerves re intubate. The graft bet we looted to earlier that dean skin graph will be matched the technique of meshing can be employed on split thickness skin graphs to further increase. Their coverage. this technique was developed in order to overcome the challenge of limited donor sites. It involves cutting slits into the graft either by hand known as pie crossing or more commonly a machine that contains a particular set of blades to produce a graft expanded ratio the most common mesh ratios are one to one point five and one two three. In addition to increasing the surface area meshing also increases the number of free edges for reupped which allows the graft to more easily adapt to irregularly contoured as well as allow fluid beneath the graph to drain the main downside is at meshing produces unaesthetic cobblestone like pattern to skin after. We epithelial to summarize so far. We've established that split thickness grafts are more readily available and have the ability to be expanded to cover a larger surface area while split thickness skin. Graphs are more durable and have a better capacity to retain cutaneous functions such as sensation and hair growth. Two more major differences that happened yet to be discussed or graft survival and wound contraction. An inverse relationship exists between graft thickness and graft survival that being thinner graphs tend to take better than thicker graphs recalling the stages of graph take plasmatic ambition in a secular and re vascular is ation thicker graphs require more extensive angiogenesis to occur. In order to penetrate the full extent of the graft therefore d- fattening is carried out and is a crucial step for full thickness grafts as residual subcutaneous tissues can impair the growth of new pillories. In dean's case adding is not a step that needs to be done for split thickness graphs and is expected to more likely take. Lastly there are two types of wound contractions that occur in split thickness and full thickness grafts referred to his primary and secondary contraction. Primary contraction occurs immediately after a graft is lifted from the donor site and his relative to the amount of elastic present. Within the graft proportional to the amount of durmus full thickness skin graphs contain more elastic than split thickness skin graphs and therefore will contract more during primary contraction. Secondary contraction is when the majority of overall contraction occurs and is due to the maturation of the wound by collagen deposition by fiber blasts and the forces exerted by acting milestone filaments from mile fiber blasts. It is suggested that less mile fibro blast activity occurs in full thickness graphs and as such secondary contraction is primarily seen in split thickness graft wrapping up the case. Dean is brought to the operating room later that night to undergo tangential excision followed by a split thickness skin graft to cover. The debris area thighs were used as a donor site and several split thickness skin graphs were harvested enmeshed in a one to one point five ratio over the next week dina's monitored in the hospital to ensure graph take to maintain contact with the wound bed minimize fluid accumulation and sheer contact a wound. Vac dressing was used. Graft dressing varies according to surgeon preference. But the use of bolsters over dressings circumstantial compression dressings and wound. Vacs are often used after the surgery. You review deans recovery. Dean was advised to minimize excessive movements. That could cause train to his chest and abdomen for at least the first five days and to not smoke for at least the next several weeks while the wound is healing common causes of graft failure include hematoma formation infection and shear stress from premature movement. Dean was advised that if the graph lifts he might need to be brought back to the operating room for redrafting. Deans wound. Vac is taken off on post op. Day four to examine the graft dressings are typically left in place for several days after surgery re epa theorize. Ation of the donor site is expected to occur seven to ten days from the time of the procedure but should be monitored for any indication of infection or excessive accumulation accumulation similarly. There are various dressing options that can be applied to the donor site including open semi. Open semi occlusive occlusive and biological dressings while rounding on dean the senior resident asks you about what patients should expect to see. During the wound healing process you tell them immediately after grafting. The skin appears white over the next several days. Color returns the cap. Refill can be elicited. The emphatic are not established until around. Day six where afterwards. There's a rapid loss of fluid wait. The graph is expected to return to its original size by date nine and between days fourteen to twenty one the originally depressed graft surface becomes level with that of the surrounding skin. The overall time it takes graft fully mature can last up to two years during this time. The graft will initially become hyper algae than regain normal sensation between weeks. Four to five the order of sensation returns with pain followed by light touch than temperature. Therefore it's important to warn patients of thermal insensitivity. We also advised dean that as with sensation sweat. Glenn innovation is not immediately restored and lubricant creams may be necessary to moisturizers. The graft hyper pigmentation is also known to occur in split thickness skin grafts particularly from grafts taken from the thigh buttocks abdomen. If grafted been taken from the palm the opposite would occur and these graphs often become hypo pigmented and that will be for the episode sa- major takeaway points about skin graphs. Include allographs is the most common type of skin grafting which transplants healthy skin from a donor site to recipient site. Three phases of graph. Take our ambition in relation and Vascular station graphs should be transplanted onto wound. Beds that are vascular in clean. Graphs cannot be placed on wounds with exposed tendons cartilage or bone lacking periton cartlidge or periosteum respectively. Split thickness skin. Graphs are reliable graphs that can be harvested from multiple donor sites with the option of meshing to further expand their coverage but are predisposed to considerable increase. Susceptibility to trauma abnormal discoloration and cobblestone appearance if mashed full thickness gaps are more durable than split thickness. Grafts provide better sensibility. Less contraction but required good wound bed masculinity to ensure graph take thanks for that excellent overview. So we always love to hear from our listeners. We want to know what you're thinking. We want them to how we can help you. More with surgery one one. And if you're feeling particularly retro or ole school we'd really like you to drop us an email our email addresses surgery. Podcast although case no dots gmail.com. Let's pretend is the nine hundred ninety s bust. I drink milk client and send us a note. Thanks for listening and we'll see you back here next week on surgery one one.

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Birth Chart Reading with Alex Perry

The Good-Hearted Podcast

1:20:37 hr | 3 months ago

Birth Chart Reading with Alex Perry

"This is the goodhearted podcast. I'm your host morgan anderson in this episode. I'm getting a birth chart reading done by alex. Perry of the perry rose academy astrology has always been a part of her life and now she's helping business owners understand themselves and grow their businesses with astrology. She does birth chart readings both for individuals but also for their businesses and she can do this based on the date that the business was started. Which i think is so cool. Alex is going to explain briefly. Each sign and give a really concise overall view of what understanding. Your strategy can really do for you. So even if you aren't really into astrology or you feel like you don't know much about it. You won't feel loss listening to this episode alex's in astrologer terro reader marketing educator and most importantly a great friend she offers perspective guidance invalidation for your journey astrology and tarot have illuminated dark areas of her life. And she wants to help you do the same. This reading really got my wheels turning in was so incredibly validating and helpful. I really hope you enjoy it. Hi alex welcome to the goodhearted podcast. Thank you so much for being here with me today. I'm morgan thank you for having me of course so can you please tell us a little bit about how you got into astrology while you were interested in it in the first place and what you do now absolutely so. I've pretty much always been interested in astrology on. I even have these pictures of me as a kid wearing these cheesy early two. Thousands graphic tees libra social butterflies years pursers. Just under your arm. So there's always a little bit of that i guess sprinkled over me. But i really Really serious into it in twenty eighteen kind of following basically a traumatic year. It was really tough Personally and professionally made. I was looking for something that could kind of just like helped me in a very self soothing -peutic wave also something. That would kinda check me a little bit. Because sometimes you'll find the in your chart that surprises you and you're like oh well okay now and so. It really helped me find a better perspective on my life. In general and i've been i'd kind of using it ever since studying my char and you know when it comes to birth chart. You're almost never done exploring it. It's been four years now. I've been dedicated. But looking at my chart and i learned something new every day elite cool. Yeah it's amazing. There's a soldiers out there. They practice for twenty five years still remained to new things How so yeah. It's a very your shrek fan. How he says he's like an onion. Yes sir literally. Jurors always another layer to flow back. And that's kind of what keeps me really interested in it too is because i kind of love being a student of life in general and learning and astrology is you know something a subject matter. I can just never master. So i love the idea of not being able to master something which is kind of you know earn at me and so you know last year being you know everything that it was was incredibly difficult for a lot of my close friends and they started saying things to me and you know. I have this astro knowledge in my brain that would just be like look at their venus transit wednesday out right and so you started like this allow guys. Let me look at your birth chart. Let me get your your first time in your info and it's funny because like now like my best friend jordan is lake also super interest. Jollity she has legacy families burns times Rising in her notes. And you know it's fun. Because you know like i said i will never know yourself enough by same goes for numbers you know when you look at other people's for churches always more more keys morlocks so again last year's consulting with my friends and just kind of like talking with them and helping them last year was also the first time i ever picked up a teradata and so yeah so as i was consulting on astrology is also doing tarot readings for my friends and it was really just my friends. I was doing this for a wasn't really doing it for like family members or anybody like publicly. Of course it was coded so i was like which limited like my crew like six to ten people anyway but it got to a point where my friends were disliked. Should really start doing this for other people. Like mrs helped me so much like you have helped me get east perspectives. I never would have considered and you know kinda take a second look at. Maybe what. I'm doing wrong as well and people need that right now in. Okay okay you know so at the same time that that is happening. I'm also kind of ending my career in bridal fashion. Pr why bridal fashion since two thousand seventeen and a multitude of reasons. Got me to the point. That i got to a most of which was just that my value system no longer live with the industry and i came to realize it never would end. You know. I just finished working with a if not the only fair trade certified line in the entire tire fashion industry. And you know still seeing that you know even with certification even with the evidence that our government makers were being paid above a fair wage We're using dead stock fabric. That was keeping stuff out of landfills Mazing programs. It was not enough because what really mattered was profits and bottom line and so we were basically the told. Why are we going to buy from you at this wholesale price. Only by for someone that looks like you can make a five hundred percent profit. You know they're no comparing the two. I get it. It's business but my values assume is people over profits. And so i i couldn't fit into this industry anymore. Which hurts. i loved it. It was fine creative. Would do you know photo shoots all the time and travel to new york and meet new people up. I've worked with brands that were just getting introduced into the us market a gala. Who dressed up beyond say serena williams at her wedding. I've done a woman in print magazines. Vote the works. I've done it all. And so i've done so much stuff here. I'm so proud of end. I love doing and so to kind of comes to the same you know looking at all of this and just be like. Oh my god. On those saturn return energy your saturn return. If you're lucky enough you get three in your lifetime. Every about twenty seven to twenty nine years and so right before you reach that you know thirty mark in your life you kinda start looking back on everything looking at your decisions and where your light is moving ahead and deciding. Is this what i want. And so saturn saturn is a planet of boundaries restrictions. Think of it just kind of like holding everything back. You know you get to a point where you're just like am i holding myself back. Is that actually. What's happening here. So coming to this kind of grieving process of my business wherein leg. i don't want bridal chiarini. i don't want to be in the rat race. And i mean i've kind of had that rebellious nature the entire time. Here i've been bridal. Pr company base in dayton ohio. Who may be funny but like really everybody los angeles chicago and new york. That's how it is. And i've always rebelled against that now. I don't think so family ends. You know i'm not interested in that lifestyle so again going through all these different things in experiences and seeing my friends growing kind of you know finding ways to like live there truth and equipped to do the same thing. Even though they've probably been thinking the whole time. I have not in that was great. Thousand years wake up call for me too was kind of realizing that the whole boss baby girl boss mom per noor. Bullshit i was i am not made. It wakes up at seven in the morning and works out on my brain and then has a nanny. Take my kids for the next seven and a half hours was the wealthiest shit. So i'm not really worried about the no honey we grind also am. I was being so inauthentic to myself while trying to convince myself i was something that i'm not also became largely obvious as i was studying. My birth chart you know. So i have all this. Pr knowledge all his marketing knowledge. I'm kind tossing the bridal stuff out the window and The astrology in tarot. Because what. I was kind of seeing happening to myself. Was that as i was being more true to my birth char in being you know honoring my nature. I was actually creating a business. I was happy with and whereas before. I was trying to create my business based off of maybe industry standards or best practices and -pletely ignoring myself. You know and i preach on my own. All the time that live in business are not separate things like we're not segmented chopped apart people. We're holding and you know i. I love that you were saying earlier. That i have kind of taken a more holistic approach. I would say that. And i don't mean holistic in like the even of this is spiritual stuff i mean it or is in like it's almost like our whole all these pieces back together who. I'm a whole person before i was like. Oh you're not making enough money. Oh you're not waking up early. Oh blah blah that whatever like meanwhile all their it deep inside of me. Was this person like dying. Select be recognized paying consulting with my friends. I was seeing the same thing. I had a friend who was doing like employment staffing for events. We've been talking and talking. You know like. I think that you should be like helping people emotionally. She's a very intelligent person very resilient. And i'm like you have skills that people need and these are things that you have unfortunately had to suffer to get these skills very valuable skills Rang whereas this whole time. She's like why do i feel this way. I'm so this shameless about myself. Like many to use these things yes and strategy is something that can so easily point these things out for us. So you know. I like i said i started combining this digital marketing in running this business that you love being aligned values and being just truthful about what your system actually looks like basically what your birth chart is is like a snapshot of the sky the moment that you were born and where all of the planets and what zoo signs they were in an. It's so personal to you because you have. The sun moves about every nine days. That's why we have lake all geminis born time for the sun is not slow moving. Not very fast. The moon moves every two days of your rising sign can change every two hours. Which is why. Admiral working time is very important. So you when people talk about strategy in like oh it's so generic this. I'm nothing like my son sign. It's like no. You're really not because you have all the stuff. Just wait for you to serve. Finding on in the reality is we have every planet every zodiac sign in verse chart it just as how much energy is influenced and you know how much positive or negative or hard or easy working against him for that. I feel like a lot of people who think that astrology is like too generic remembering like cosmo girl horoscope that and so. That's why i totally agree i do. I think identify pretty well with my son. But i know some people don't but you're going to get into the different signs. And what exactly they mean. And i like you said i just love that. They're so much. You can learn about yourself because i feel like that's so powerful for us to be able to do that to understand our quote unquote weaknesses but also like learn how to use the skills that come naturally to us. You know even if we might see them as flaws. And i just feel like you can unlock all of that shit and then use it you know and really just use it to like improve your life and maybe even the people around you so i feel like there's so much to learn today and i know that you're going to get into so so much and i'm so excited So you've touched on sun and moon and rising signs so please tell us a little bit more about what those mean for. Anybody who doesn't know. Absolutely so like i said we have every single and every single zodiac sign on in our birth chart and so if you look at your birth chart which i actually will send you excited. Pastures medicines lane comes up k. To your exact charts you can look at it with me on. Basically like a circle. We'll end you. How old houses just like you have. Twelve zodiac signs. Just like we have twelve months in a year right. So that's basically what is set up as you have this pie with twelve slices and limits will fall they fall based on your time of birth and then each zodiac sign will also fall into a house now when we think about astrology. We may assume that we would start with january calendar. We actually not so. The first sign in astrology is actually aries which is rising sign so areas number one and so Aries is ruled by the planet. Mars is a fiery planet. It is a is me i. It's like me with you. But i know right right now. as aries energy time to move forward it likes to be quick paced on. If you think about kind of the fact that is the first sign of makes sense right. It's not been jaded yet by the world experience while you're doing it for really really fast pace energy after aries taurus arizona. Tourists tourists in line tours is known for being stubborn on. But it's ruled by the planet. Venus so in is very aesthetic luxurious. It loves money. It loves being at home is a leg. My taurus people like my partner is a tourist moon in tourist rising a germanized. Oh yeah he's a gemini sun but you'd never know to me. He's a taurus. because he's how much of that energy and they're basically a human pilot of it's they are. Yes my husband's a tourist. That's a sense. Yes and like the lincoln combi. Yes areas of tourists and after torres dining have gemini gemini is the first air sign in it is very talkative. Very communicative it. It loves to flex its knowledge. And aries is also the twin sign. Is the twins sign and so basically a lot of people interpret at geminis or two faced Extremely shallow way of looking at it will not be as geminis have a very very deep personal. Duality is happy as they can be. They can be depressed. And it's very polarizing energy. Yes totally resonate with that. I'm like oh my god that was spot on people. Say lieber as early all. They're indecisive we'll get into that in a second to a woman. I don't like using astrology to be negative. It's helpful to have some insight. Maybe like things you need to be aware of. But they're a bad sign. Like jeff about sign. I wish people would stop acting like that troy metoo so that's gemini so we have fire earth air and then we have our first water sign which is cancer. Cancer is the mother home nurturing of motions the moon all divine feminine energies. On now. i don't like to say that. There's masculine feminine binary way in astrology. Asa when i divine feminine. It's more everything that you need is already inside of you. You don't need to go out rolling grinded hustle to be happy. You're good as you are. And cancer loves. That energy has cancer in our tring. Mommy after cancer than we have another fire sign. Which is leo. And leo is look at me honey. I am as as i am wonderful and these are people that really light up a room. You know what. I mean like sure there can be Giving science all of us with me though is they love to be in leadership roles and we need that because we have a lot of the can't handle those types of things so we owe is an excellent leader especially in a position where they need to have a lot of is on net. Which very pisces would hate to have people be so dumb have Virgo comes next. Burger was another earth. Sign virgo is down to earth. Get it done less organized. Let's clean our closets. Let's nri condo our life Updated maybe wanna get rid of everything because they also delights be comfortable. They are in earth signs end. Earth signs in general are very grounded. They're very practical. People in virgo is extremely practical after Didn't have another air sandwiches libra. I'm a libra son. And we are very talkative. Much late geminis. We are very concerned with diplomacy which means that we very often sacrifice ourselves. Other people. Happy which to me is a libra. Actually doesn't make people happy right. Running every day and balanced where the sales of social is very important here from that regard. Diplomacy is important because you don't have a bias when it comes to justice in journalists after libra than we have scorpio's or a water sign although it has a very fiery on underbelly to like Or people with their waterside are really about just getting it done. Not in a way that air sign does but because they have so much cynicism energy they're just like if i don't hustle. What is the point of being alive. Right understand The waters are certainly a little bit. More closed off to their emotions. A really hard. You know exterior shell. Cancers are very similar in that way. But i think with scorpio's they're less nurturing probably need it the most absolutely than after scorpio we have another fire sandwiches sagittarius. And so if you look at a glitch which is the symbol of sagittarius. It's literally in aero insanitary on gone. I'm going. I'm traveling the world. I am having new experiences on. Never staying in one place and very much gogo energy after sagittarius than we have capricorn's this will be the last of the earth. Science orrin is very similar to virgo in a sense where it's like work boat. Abercorn is probably the most overworked Zodiac sign period. And it's because they take material possessions so seriously and thing that they're you know vein But it would. It's very important that they have a nice house and their bills are paid ahead of time. Somebody like you know my lieber ask for example. We wait till it's do know. Kill kaffir corn easily like fourteen years old. Oh my god. what's happened one. wow and after capricorn. We have aquarius I'm an aquarius moon. As are you and so. We are very eccentric. We love we love community. We love humanity. What we're we're bit stubborn where we're just like I don't know what that comes from is like were so worried about the greater good. That were fairly not convinced to try anything different. Because we're worried about how might hurt people in aerosols more out her people not that we want things to stay the same we. We do want innovation. But we're not willing to risk other people in that innovation the least if were not negatively affected after aquarius. We do have pisces. This is our final water. Sign and pisces is deep as the ocean. These are the artists poets. That just walk around just living at mystical life. Damn i like you right so yourself. You can't even. I love it really really really fun. Energy there so then after pisces. Weezer or right back into areas and then the way that those go in order actually also aligns with houses so the way that houses will following your birth chart is gonna vary depending on your birth time and stuff but if you were to have like an ideal earth chart The first house aligned with aries the second house align with tourists the third house aligned with gemini. And it's funny because when you start seeing net the first houses about the self aries me. A second house is about money torres finances. The third house gemini loves to talk and as going. Cancer is the fourth house which is home Leo the fifth house. Which is how you make your presentation to the world virgo. The sixth house which is organization in daily habits in like rituals the seventh house relationships scorpio the eighth house. The underworld death rebirth. So as you go through all of these unparalleled energies but truth be told. We don't always end up getting a birth chart it lines up like that. It's very rare consulted with someone. The other day that did happen. I was literally pokes lay off the most amazingly align houses irony life. It was very impressive. That person has an easy live. And a lotta times. We have these kind of easy placements. We don't really learn much about life as you know. Go through it to really learn about ourselves absolutely. Yeah so timing irv you all of that energy. How do you feel about that honestly. It was so nice for you to like so concisely kind of summarize what each sign was because i was thinking of people like in my life with every single one that was like. Oh damn yeah. That's that's exactly you know how they work. Which harper is a secretary of so my. We are going to travel all over the place. I cannot wait so excited. So yeah and so. You said that sun sign is based on the day. You're born so then. What what exactly does moon sign and rising sign mean. Yeah so like. I said when you think about your birth chart is literally snapshot of the sky zone sun in all of the planets they all move at different paces so again as i think maybe every twenty one days. So you're gonna share that same sign with anybody that's form with that little chunk of time a moon sign you will share with someone that's born within like a state within a day or two of your birth date right ends birth year in of stuff the tyne is extremely important to your rising. So you're rising is not a planet. It's actually an angle so when you look at your birth. It's the circle you see all these lines and things it's geometry that's actually measuring different angles in the sky and so As you kind of look that near dislike madness looks really crazy anomaly to make of this really all that means is like this is how these planets have aligned with each other not to so. You're rising sinuses. Specific point on your birth chart that measures right before we get into your first house so your rising sign is in aries because your first house starts in aries. Now it like me for example. My rising size scorpio. My first house is ruled by sagittarius. Because that's what comes after make sense. You know that's gonna nowhere. Your rising sign falls within a specific house will influence is over personal to look at a meeting where you see your rising. It's right on the precipice of first house. Which is usually the following. Sign now if you have wide angle. I house which yours is a little bit a little bit wider so your first house goes not only from areas it starts to go into tourists. However if you look at parts of your birth charlie. The fourth house is in the sign of cancer. So there's like different angles in measurements at play here which might be a little bit too heavy for everyone right now you can we. Is it just important to understand that it's all about movement so rising is an ankle. Your mid heaven is another angle obviously have the moon so the moon is rotating within the zodiac about every two days Saturn rotates zodiac. I wanna say maybe every twelve years in this is an interesting to note too so we have. Our personal planets moons venus mercury and mars. Those who some actually in a start with these i find to be the most important. When you get into saturn jupiter urine as pluto those are generational planets. Your share those people. So you and i both have a Oreo we both have hammer coal Action these things we share with other people so these hersal planets i find the most valuable especially off discovery. Listen is our essence. It's kind of how we are in the world you know especially how were in childhood is kind of what our identity would've looked like the most men a lot of people say you know i don't feel like my son sign or maybe a little but not that much you're probably feeling more their rising sign because like i said that. Excuse me that rising sign is sitting right on the precipice of your first house which is also the self If you have a son may be in a not very strong. You know if. You've suddenly out ura leo Hence energy if you were maybe like a son in lake high-seas for example find other parts of your chart kind of dominate a little bit more expression so his son is your essence. It's it's kind of who you are especially the moon is your emotions. It's your unconscious Your memories as i said Divine feminine no internal power. That you have. We have mars. Mars is the plan of action in aggression like areas is because they're connected and we have mercury so mercury is not only what we think but how we say it. So that's why it's all guide. Mercury loves the third house and loves gemini. because it's all about communication him all that energy flows together and then after Moon mars mercury venus venus as the planet of love relationships money and values so when i talk about arab business astrology what they're probably most likely to come to the table with as their sun moon rising but will focus on. Is there mars mercury in venus. So this is gonna be your your assertion in this world mars how you get out there and hustle will you need to do is say the word hostile loosely could be just gets into do's done right on mercury which is you know again. Our ideas on how we communicate them. That's social media all over it and then also venus value system In how we make money not how we make money but lake. What's driving us to make money writing. For example if you have a venus in capricorn are going to very much value money. And you're gonna work your ass off because your system is going to be based on that corn energy on if you are a venus in aries you're going to also work very hard but is gonna be for. The money is going to be for yourself right as more new focus energy. So megan into your now here. That's perfect also. Everything you just said was so helpful with like pinpointing like you said having the drive for money but having different values behind it. Yeah so. I think that's very fascinating. And like you said i feel like self-discovery is so important so yes i am so excited dive into this and i hope everybody else will also get a reading from you because this is already going to be so helpful. Yes and i literally anybody that wants to reading. Please do come my way absolutely to start with you. Have a son in gemini and we've already kind of gone over. The essence gemini really loves communication knowledge. So this is gonna mean that like you know yourself as a communicator. An intelligent person without getting much further into a acid. Another little layer. I'm going to add to that. Is that This is a twenty eight degrees. So as i mentioned this geometry in astrology we have Thirty degrees but we never reached. That thirty thirtieth. The twenty ninth is kind of that final degree in we over again. I'm but each degree. Follow that same cyclic. Whole as the zodiac so one aries to tourists any other through. Obviously there's only twelve so once you get right back to areas in the thirty. So your son geminis at the twenty degree which has cancer so your essence and your knowledge is also probably going to be very much tied to cancer energy. So i would say knowledge about motherhood knowledgeable home knowledge about partnerships knowledge about relationships. Talking about these things would all be very important to you. Which is all. I talk about on social media like my entire life. Yeah zinc on jemma. Nearly nothing to do with family. But then he's cancer degree and you're like it's some of that cancer energy to you. We have your mood in aquarius and this is the thirteenth degree of aries. So this is the moon aquarius. I love this. Because i'm went to we. Weird interesting weren't interesting bunch. I feel that we can all detached at times. We can be a little dissociated give rate love for the world at large the great long. But it's interesting having a little bit of areas in here because this is kinda save you from getting really lost in that simulate. Guess i do love the people. And i want the best for them but i'm not lost in that because that's not to get anybody anywhere so you've got a little bit of that lake. Let's bring it back to me a little bit here. We have the rising in aries. And that's at the fifteenth degree of germany. So it's interesting because we have a lot of gemini ares energy happening in your Like those the big three as amid rising is your theory so i would say also meaning you right off the bat i would probably maybe see you areas a little bit more than a gemini really are sure because the first of all we have these these degrees here but this rising in areas is gonna say like. I am motivated. Now doesn't just wouldn't see you as an intelligent good communicator. Aries energy of being an entrepreneur is hollywood. People are going to see you for events. He the communication that ends eat. A family love entrepreneurs that leading characteristic free with other people. Yeah so you're you also have a chart ruler in mars so the chart ruler. Basically the way that you find that which have resources for everything. I'm talking about finding all overtake top blogging instrument for ever interested in looking at your chart ruler. So you have your rising sign right on the precipice of the first house. I house is aries. Aries is partnered with the planet mars. So you are ruled by mars. That is your tour due. I didn't know that and again because you have this kind of fiery aries energy. These things might kind of precede you before. That germany on comes in so I have a couple notes here of things that i was looking at your chart. The i thought were interesting. So i'm gonna tell you about these things do you any questions that you want to Okay perfect so. The first thing that i noticed was the moon in the eleventh house so the eleventh house is called the house of friends. this social ser- social circles and kind of like our partnerships in peers. And this kind of reminded me of like when you used to do like rising tide society rain. There's a twist here. How is because the moon is inquiries at that sign of sorry inequalities at that sign of aries there isn't intrinsic need for. Ut get away those people as much as you love friends uni you times so badly without that you actually kind of might have your emotions stirred where if you are not getting a space that you need now your motions are being triggered when this is really nothing to do with emotions on saturday here and saturn again being planet of boundaries in restrictions. This tae yes you do have your aquarius and you love people and you love social service new love this most. Want your own time. And i think that that is is just zooming but i think possibly going from a role where you were so public to public felt like a radical change right oma like literally my stomach like dropped when you first started like saying this and like my heart pounding. Because i'm like that is exactly what i went through and like when i first saw that i had like aquarius moon. Like i wasn't. I didn't super relate to that but once you're talking more about like all of these areas things on like. Yeah i feel like. I used to sacrifice everything for everyone else and then like i just fucking broke down. You know it was. It was too much and it was really hard for me to step away from like rising tide But i needed it. But then it was like i felt so lost and it was an extreme radical change. Because like you said it shouldn't have been like this big emotional thing but it really was. Because yeah i was like i was debating so much time and energy to it and even though i'm extroverted and i love people and i love being in front of people like it was so draining and i couldn't do anything new in my business. I was helping all of these other people move forward in their business. And i was like dying like an exactly what you're saying that's eris telling you like. Hi morgan about me. Yes to a little bit of a saving grace for you to kind of have that combination but you know anywhere that we have saturn it is going to call us to look at our need boundaries and restrictions and i would say throughout your life it will be very important for you to have healthy boundaries around your social groups because it will exhaust you and now that you know that knowledge right is beating myself of over. I'm night terror. i'm not. I'm not that matter beyond what we know about you healthy and beneficial for you when i appreciate you saying that and bring this to my attention because i feel like they can be more gentle with myself and it literally says saturday. The eleventh house just simply grows too tired of social. No i am not because at wants rest but because it's done it's the boundaries now match so the next Interesting point i saw for you is that you have jupiter in virgo in the sixth house. So this is a almost ideal alignment the six th house virgo jupiter. All at once beautiful. We love to see it. I'm so. Jupiter is the planet of expansion akanbi be fortune a candy growth general jupiter's really signaling to us to expand these things right and so wherever we see jupiter we need expansion super in the sixth house six houses organization routines the daily. We have the virgo energy. So this like really like down to earth on this earth sign who is saying. We need organization. We need accountability as what this is telling me as that you need an expansion in your life of organization and personal assistance ray. The weather that is like investing in a gazillion genitals into or whiteboards over your house or whatever. Structurally unietd these things and you need or in more and more of them as our absolutely because like we just moved into this new house a little over a year. Oh no almost two years ago anyway. My last house. I got everything down to a fucking science. Everything was organized. There was a routine there was like i was just in this really good flow and ever since we've moved into this new house and of course i had a baby like i feel like i'm still trying to catch up to that but like whenever i have the time yes i am trying to get to organize i have you know three different paper planners for what reason i don't know 'cause i yes. Oh yeah i'll post it notes all over the wall like i just. I do feel that need to be organized and have a system. But sometimes i do struggle with actually making the time to come up with them but once i do on my oh thank god like and i can just take a breath but i crave that yeah absolutely and you know in addition to this because like i said jitter can't be fortunes virgo is ruled in a way by kind of these earthly hard-working energies the sixth house. So what this also says to me is. You're going to have the most material success when you have that structure. It's not. I don't want you to think of it. As structure is in like physical structure. It's mental structure. You know what. I need it and down to like because yes you can have these to do lists things muse things but if we're not honoring your emotions if we are offering the essence of who you are will never reach this next step and so that way. It's kind of like it always comes back to each other right. We can expect you to be performing at your best if everything else is still all over the place. It's not so any junior day to help. You have some of that small routines which i know is next to impossible as a mom lake. I would love to get you know even even little rituals where it's being taken extra two minutes to wash your face or this hagan extra three minutes in the shower and that by the end of the day you've built in ten extra minutes of of this mind building ritualistic feeling that you need to survive as a person. Oh yeah because. I feel like i've always struggled with anxiety on some level but then with the last year and being a mom like my head was just constantly buzzing. Feel like like everything was i couldn't keep track of things and so i've been trying like in the probably the past two weeks to really be intentional about that to factor in it time or whatever like you said taking a shower. It doesn't right or because again someone that wakes seven in the morning hours cotton on if i can take an extra five minutes in the shower. I'm yes it's little cases that add up a name on. that's very. I feel like doable for me because yeah putting an hour before the baby gets up hell no like that is not happening. Like to just have a couple of minutes throughout the day. You know to just check in with myself and kind of get grounded for a minute like i think that. That can be doable and will hopefully help with that. Because i totally relate to that like what i have my My best friend's virgo moon and so she cleans to relax. I can only might know you grow up so easy. My six thousand torey right but like that's like this burger energy in her like she piece in the cleanliness and structure of the monday activities of life. And if that's what she and that's what she needs to have so yes. I think that would be a great idea. But a couple of things with your jupiter virgo in the sixth house. I wanted to mention a couple aspects. Oh those lines that senior birth chart so in this in jupiter you have your nato. Jupiter is just house physician in your birth chart Is trying to your mid heaven. So basically what you're mid heaven is is what you want to be known for in this world. It's what your legacy pay. It's truly believe see beyond you know people knowing you personally Sustained morgan anderson Associate with your mid heaven is in capricorn missed off state. How god man air is. Your workforce when tally up airs that capricorn heaven and the mid Midpoint birth charges the very very top heart. Your chart. we're zilog if you locate your rising sign. It's kind of this in this year. Rising you also so this is a train so you have a trying as triangle and if you think about nature triangle strongest in nature anywhere in asia that triangles the strongest form of it. So what this is saying. Is that these these two energies. You're coming together really really nicely. There is a lot of support here for your reputation to expand in a successful way that you actually want it to so. That's a good thing you know. Wow that is beautiful and then we also have. Mars is trying to your jupiter. So what this the certian energy you're putting into actually growing your business is not. There is good support here which is very validating at my rain. This oh my gosh okay. All this energy on cutting out in the world. It's not me hitting a roadblock it's act supported the flow is there and then you also have your jupiter chime with urine us and urine us isn't interesting plan Urinalysis very rebellious. It is like screw with everyone. Thinks in says. I'm doing it my way. Who when we look at your your expansion your assertion end than this rebellion. This me in summary that you're gonna have a lot of success in going forward in the role in working on your own terms and that's the only way you're gonna house Compromising these things you are going to be living authentically. Not to say you. Maybe wouldn't have to return to a part time job Nobody can arrange but based on your natal chart. The universe thousand percent wants you to be a successful entrepreneur. A hundred what you're went to do you know yeah there may. There may be times where you have to kind of come. come back on that. But you you've been in entrepreneurship for a long time. And i'm sure he's found. That is when you start straying away from the path. You're miserable is all absolutely every time. I come back in a mike all right like this is hard but that was harder. Like absolutely and the thing with trying. They're not particularly difficult to. There's a little bit harder to learn lessons from them so lake whereas you know i'm saying hey you are meant for this to be amazing. Your police late cows. So par right. Yeah it's it's a journey right. We have play time of Yes that is all your jupiter energy. And then you have your venus your venus also in germany and so it is at the twenty nine degrees. Leo okay so what this is going to mean. Is your your value system. Your love of things were aesthetics on is going to be very much focused on the things that you know. You like to know the things that you know right. You don't like learning but the things that you're into you're like really into like while the things you love talking about these things in experiencing makes things going places to be a part of these things. I'm thinking versing to mind. The i just going to the park with stuff in having it in your house. You like being surrounded by consuming that you love not less because it's what you know what you're you're with an with leo being involved that it's also kind of like you know i wanna talk about what i like things i wanna do because venus has a lot to do with relationships and it's yours at is guided by gemini here This also tells me that. Like i bet in your relationship with your friends and especially your husband. You loved to talk Love to talk about everything Couples that are together in the lake. Don't say anything that is when your partner right more of a talking then okay. Here's a curveball. not anymore. Because he doesn't shut up when we first got together absolutely and in with a lotta my friends. I have to remind myself like okay. Shut up so give some words in. But yeah i have to give him a hard time because now i'm like i haven't even talked to in like four days. You've just talked to at me for the last four days. But i wondered too if that's something in his chart that like as he's gotten closer to thirty has changed Yeah because used to. It was totally the other way round. But i'm trying to be more assertive to be like okay. That's cool but like i'm gonna talk about my thing now. Because i do love talking like i'm still here okay. We're going to talk about things. I'm interested but yes especially my close relationships. I do struggle with that Just turn off the talk for a little bit. So i get i mean you know. I'm a. I'm a libra mercury. So i'm not that were off in ericsson. They love to talk because they love having sharing in gaining knowledge Yes this communication like while. I'm sure you're great at small talk. You like banner. Yes like i say that your pocket small talk because you're spending something or whatever. Es it's not what you love. It's not like you wanna be like so. Do we think aliens got literally like that is me to a team. Small talk is painful for me. I will like muster through anyway. So tell me about your childhood trauma. Please like like everything about you. Here's my life story. Because i i don't like the surface level shit like the older. I get the more on like i just want to be invested in people and especially if we can talk about business astrology or something like i would talk about it all day because it's something i'm interested in something. I want to learn about so absolutely like that is me too. That's that's With that leo. As well as like. You're really good at kind of like guiding conversation. Which makes fun conversationalist because you know. Sometimes people do talk a lot. The they're very all over the place soon but it seems like there would be a purpose behind what you're saying even if it is gathered slower faster we love that we love. We love a little bit of leo and then we also have mercury okay. Mercury's your thoughts and how you speak in. It's in cancer. So would this as that. You're very how do i say this. I don't really wanna careful. But you're very tender with the way that you speak to people. You are very aware that you could hurt their feelings everywhere when so. That's not say that you couldn't though because seventy degree of leo so you know how much power you hold own. Yup yup yup yup. When i was pregnant i i was not tinder anymore. Like with my husband and my sister. They're the they're always the two that i can give kind of my tough love too but yeah i did not hold back which was bad like i said because just like you said i feel like i know how to communicate to people how deliver a tough message a really gentle way that like eases them into it but sometimes i just get so tired of like tiptoeing on like this is just what it is. Okay there's that leo influence coming back now. There is kind of Breath petition making appearances in your chart which to nita's surprise because there's a lot of areas fire energy is a lot of fire happening here and that's certainly not a bad thing but you know mercury in cancer. This is a lot of your thoughts and feelings a yes are gonna be very very tenderly delivered when they need to be unless you're upset but you're also going to just to go back to the sun cancer Touch of cancer. You are very concerned with your family. Loved ones as you probably think about the most. Your family loved ones as you talk about. The most again reiterated met sunshine there. But this this is your top priority. You know at that venus gemini which prioritises you know the information exchange but when it comes to mercury like i said this is not just what you're thinking it's how you say it to right. You're thinking you're you probably talked very sweetly to your daughter. I bet she oh you have and you'll always be very sweet with her. You can just your nature and like hetzer is the mommy and so you know it's a it's a very nice very nice lace met. Because it's just you know. Yeah you can yell but take a lot to get to that point. Yes yes. I i definitely feel all of what you just said and like. I'm sure we will have our moments as she gets older. But patience is just easy with her. Were it's been a struggle and other time so totally. That's that's a great thing. I'm not a very patient mother. I'm sure things might change that. She gets under my eyes so just give you a little background. My daughter l. e. is a libra sunlight. Me and aquarius mood like me. But she's a sagittarius rising as she just like energy trampoline. Just like jump on it so energetic and then my daughter. Lillian is a cancer son. Virgo moon lido rising. She's cleaning the house washing as you can only get a lot of emotional work you know in aquarius moon. If i was a cancer would it be a different story. But i for my emotions sometimes so i decided to be like what so we all go. Yeah of course of mason than we have mars taurus so we we love a mars and tourists. Because you are motivated to get the bread your leg Let's do this. let's go in that. You're also you're not gonna be wasting energy on things that you don't value rightly you're not gonna catch morgan doing something that she doesn't want to do any the way you're younger sacrificing but as you as you come to kinda like i said honored nature more than nope don't got to anymore. You have mars at the third degree of gemini also so just a little bit more gemini influence there but be this morrison tourists. What it wants the most is stability steadiness comfort. You know very motivated to provide for the family in comforts And then you're very motivated to enjoy these things. You know what i mean like. You're probably way more likely to be struggled up on the couch watching a movie than Absolutely okay so another note that i had here was that your rising sign is the most aspect and so with this means is that those little angles aspects that we have in your chart motha them direct to your rising sign. I just goes to show the again that that gemini or a gemini degree of your aries rising you are. You are in aries gemini like leary. Wow and we never knew. Yeah and what this really focuses on is just leadership and doing things. That's what that rising sign wants. The most definitely you know communicating with others but in general Staying in in perpetual motion is what's going to be wolf that art. That is kind of old notes that i took give me some feedback on it like that. That seriously was mind blowing for me. It was so cool how you were able to pinpoint certain things. But also i'm having all these little epiphanies got like my notebook here. Where i'm like okay. We're gonna like dig into that a little bit more. Because yeah i just although sometimes i do feel like really with my son. Sign like you just went into so many other like more fine tuned. Parts of me that kind of explain why things have or have not worked out like you know. Or when i'm pushing something in i'm just fighting who i am naturally and that's why i get like you know a little frustrated when when people are so. Dismissive of astrology hubs of sunshine. I get why they feel that way because it's not enough. It is very generalized An actually Astrologer that i've been calling for years recommends that you don't even read your daily horoscope for your son sign. You should read it or your rising sign interesting because like you just pointed out that like so many other things about you know my birth chart points more to aires. Jim and i and so. I'm just sitting here like mind. Blown on my. I don't even know what questions. But i feel like it's going to be so useful for me and just like kind of being validated. This whole time so refreshing. Because yeah i definitely i have all those struggles that you talked about but also feel like my truest self and some of those things that you talked about and so i feel like it's just going to give me the permission to kind of lean into that a little bit more. Do the lakers earlier. The validation social context you know this is giving yourself race. That's rewarding is less. Something i personally struggle with a law and i imagine you do to especially because you do have some that Energy influence in your mid heaven on is that like we don't really give ourselves a lot of grace for Better like crying get absolutely myself. you know we. We live in a in a world. That's like very much from the time we are. Y'all young children tries to shake something very specific in reality. What we're doing is completely disbanding who we really are. And so i. I love it like some of this is kind of clicking for you because now also look at yourself and your experiences in a whole new way and you know what i'm not going to be by self up the fact that i need space with my friends i'm gonna take elk up over the fact that like i don't have a to do list. I'm gonna fall apart at the seams match all it is and that is how you living in honor those things right will and Like one thing that's really like sticking in my mind right now is how you were talking about. Basically you said this much better than i'm going to say it but basically like sorting out my mind like i have to do that first before i can get all the things i want. Essentially has to be in check and so to me. I'm thinking okay. I really need to prioritize like mental health however that looks Because i keep keep trying to do all of these materialistic things you know to move me forward in my career and that just not. It's not it it's a perfect example of this in business so let's say that you're a small candle making company midst but what he told you that you need. Support yourself out there and you're not quite ready but you do it anyway and you start posting on tiktok in one video goes viral on your entire shop is sold out and now people are leaving you comments pissed off at you. A in your oss. Think about what that would do to your psyche. Writing weren't ready. And you put yourself out there. Because i told you and you are prepared your now suffering right right even though we were talking about earlier. Everybody's always trying to find the perfect place to be matters or matters being the being perfectly aligned with yourself you said to yourself you know where matt ready for that experience yet. Honey in house. Stuff i yes. Benny would have had a much better experience when she finally did it. Yes absolutely all the time by the way where these small businesses put themselves. I won't take talk. they bego viral. And you know people want to buy theirselves in they getting see. I'm sorry it happens. You know that that's like a whole nother conversation. People need to respect that. It's a small business like i. It's also matter protecting yourself because that's the bank of we if we look at this landscape and we say okay morgan. Your full kit is telling you that you need to have a plan and use a. I'm going to go without one. Then that was. That was a poor choice. On your part you know what what happens. Subsequently to other people do not irresponsibility. But you know. I think the reason i bring that social media example is because people are so willing to do things because other people tell them to knock yes all social but especially yes. Beat being check with your in house earn absolutely and that. That's how i felt even starting this podcast like he's trying to talk through with my husband and stuff and he was like you'll have to get all figured out now i was like oh yes i do. I i need because i need that to function. Yes absolutely knowledge the next time you go into another project. You're gonna say at least this time to do this stuff. Yes yes and so. I think that's so powerful to just learn those things and to be like okay. So i'm going to stop jumping head first into stuff when i know nothing about it because it just doesn't work out for me like and that's okay you know and then you can just roll with it. Yes because this placement for you does not like the idea of faking it till you make it. That is like a dense in peace young and for so long you know. That's what stood preached. I feel like today but that just never resonated with me. I didn't like that. And i always thought it was funny because like you said a lot of people think is to face and where i do feel like sometimes i can kind of morph into whatever i need to be for whatever situation to get through it without losing my mind essentially but like i i never wanted to show up that way and i was nervous that i would so but ever since i've been more true to like who i actually am and You know really being more intentional with putting out in the world it feel so much better and like it's working out better for me if that makes sense and so now after this conversation my shit like horror lines with do i actually am would have thought you know i am praising you know. Some people never looked at their birth and they never know these things in your whole life trying to convince himself. Something's wrong with themselves from the men. Just like i need a special set of tools. The am happy i am. I am motivated. you know. everybody is honesty. Don't have any planets in my six towels. I do not my sticks houses in tourists which basically interesting for me i was military brat growing up in i have very hard time with change as Very hard and no. I'm flexible in an adaptive. This house being like your daily routines if something starts by daily routine late. I have a hard time while. I'm not really willing to do it without a lot of planning for example Started first grade and they're going in the day it took me like we won't get used to this. Oh my god. That sounds like torture. It's so hard and like i was like falling behind it work right now. We're on spring break in life. Challenge silly for me her boy. I'm extremely rigid in my daily routines. I'm not like that work but like my home. Life like go to look for sugar in the cabinet in. It's not they're gonna free beat. I need to have like the way that i like that. That is where. I feel comfortable as soon as i lose those things. It is very difficult for me. You know and then of course. My partners are tourist rising tourists moon so he basically does weigh in bed all day. I love it and that's what my husband has been trying to help me with you. Know the relaxing part and like the one thing that you said about virgo. I forget exactly where you said. It was but just being able to enjoy what i've worked so hard for like curling up on the couch and resting like the closer. I've gotten to thirty the more like. That's what i crave is being home with my family and just not doing anything. Which for so long. I ran around like a crazy person anything like that. He has definitely helped me with that. And then when you said that piece like yup. That's exactly where matt in life right now which is nice and it's you know he probably crowns. You'll law as well a lot of the you know a lot of the air and fire that you have of course. I'm not looking at his chart. But i know that like tourists. Placements are very intense in my opinion like energy is is very penetrating. And it's very grounding in like even the ryan's son that his tourist placements mandate heat me grounded. Because i all day select like. Why is your mind going there now. You told me. Chill out which i would love for dylan to do reading. But nobody knows when the hell he was born. So i don't know how. I have to figure this out. bu- check his check his birth certificate. Yeah i don't think it has a time and need to double check it. My friend's birth certificates. Do okay. mine. Do not my mind from south dakota end mind but both of my friends are from. Ohio's embarrassed had it so neatly was born in ohio. Maybe has long. Yeah we'll have to try and because once something that you said. I want your podcast was knowing like your partner. Either in a relationship or in business like their aspects of their birth chart can be so beneficial. I mean you could immediately write somebody off like oh. We're not a good fit but it's more like setting those expectations to say we have issues in these areas in. Like you know just kind of planning for that ahead of time or just being aware yet. Totally having that awareness. And that i would love to down the line start. Doing with businesses is like if airbus a higher or somebody's bring on a personal assistant for the first time or whatever. The case may be i would love to consult with them and say like okay. This is what you're working with. So i can tell you right now like visa types of qualities you need to look friend of hers and these are the ones that you need to avoid know like for example. I feel as though you would probably have a really really tough time with somebody. That had a lot of pisces energy. Because they're going to be wearing mopey. Their oppressive vary in their moods and emotions. And you're like pledge goal like. I can't today i need you to leave. I have to go home. I cannot handle this account. Which i know that already makes me so anxious just thinking about that. Actually and so thing is a lot of times like people go into jobs in lake higher being one of really poor fit in a camp Y y you can come down to you. Know the the mars venus mercury. Those are my big three when it comes to business the stone the communication. Also like your assertion. I'm a cancer mars. Which means the which are us years worse. So i am not very good at confrontation so i was to be face to face with somebody that had like mars in light leo. I would cry. I i couldn't. I couldn't handle and so that is definitely like i said something. I would love to do it just kind of help. People pinpoint like you know their best practices for for energy work right leg at what we've done on this. Entire podcast is energy work. you know. we're working together and whoever listens to this. They're doing work even mice on processing information absolutely and yeah so i appreciate you so so much getting on here and doing this for me like honestly i feel like i'm going to be able to continue working like i'm gonna listen back to this and be taking notes and research and i just feel like it's so powerful and anybody who does this. I just feel like you're going to unlock the world. You know what i mean. That's that's kind of how i feel right now. That's what i wanna do like all before all our new talk to people and help them and you know this is. This is a hundred percent where my heart is at so. I'm again very grateful. You let me talk all my astro knowledge with today's also. Oh my gosh. 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They're like iridescent like so liddy yes the company got from his labyrinth those moment these are hand illustrated so everything will or was drawn by hand on their small business. They have a may soup pools. So yeah and i think they're the deck forty eight dollars. This just absolutely gorgeous. I love it. Like i said if you're if you wanna get into tarot and you're you're a little bit of restraint because somebody's not purchase you adak yogesh round honey. Don't know absolutely but you know basically with with toronto Or tarot kind of the same thing either way what it is a resourcing your intuition so you can lay out cards. In multitudes of fashion's you can do a single card. Three cards. spread eight cards spread multiple different ways. And it's the different sprays that you can do can be question answer. They can be. Energy readings situation outcomes past present futures. it's very much intentional. I love that you use that word. It's very intentional on. I would recommend going into reading and just being right. I don't know what do we get because rights just opening a door for too many things you may not get value out of it. But if you're like you know my mind is been on this thing even if you don't have kind of sourcing that energy intuition is amazing and much like the astrology. I started you know with my friends point cards for them and we were all summer like once a month we would do a backyard. Bonnaroo is like my crew this late yankees so yeah like it in my backyard in like thank on my neighbors cool v. There's like four in the morning. Might just getting super the lovett polo card for everyone. Before the night started the next day we would reflect on it and be like. How did this come out for you in like oddly. It was kinda crazy. We had this one night where i lay had pulled a hard for my my friend. Jordan was the devil and she was late and long story short. She basically was able to play a role that night. That people didn't want her play. But it was for the greater good and it ended up being a really credible Kind has had to like force people talk about things they didn't wanna talk about Like the devil right now really. It was a transformative experience for the people that she was doing that with. I use tarot for all kinds of things. Like i'll do it for you know how i'm feeling i have people that will ask me. Hey i'm thinking about you know starting up this relationship question i have. Is this worth pursuing or need to know about this person. And then you know. I'll pull a card and i'll read the definitions in kind of this. This is what i think. This is trying to tell you so. Whatever whatever kind of message that they need to get it's really gonna be collaborative because That hard inherently means. I like to kind of put my spin to emulate. This is what i think he needs. Take away from this card. I literally i track all the missiles. This is my notebook with every tarot reading. That i've done. Mike i will say was october of last year. So everyone i've done since october. I put in here move back and read them and be like you know. I'm because one thing that's interesting is you'll if there is a message that you need more work there's a lesson that you have not yet learned. You will see those cards again. My one friend. We pulled the death card for her four five times in a row. I mean we're talking seventy two collards on multiple different occasions where i've done readings between. She continued to pull that same hard literally. Like mike broad crazy. And i was like okay care. You've not learn your lesson. We ended up being. It was my one friend that worked at that event staffing agency. She had to leave near basically telling her. If you can't pull the same numbers your point job you're gonna get fired. And she was a god. Yes first of all i know she just Had to accept that like his career path that she was very passionate about all the people that she was working with. You know where people on parole people that have been in trouble before you don't get a lot of opportunities. She being the cancer that she was really loved being able to help these people and kind of lose. That was that was what was hard for her. Wasn't the money it was. It was the people out why she basically like exceptionally this is over with the beauty and with death card is Have you know the grim reaper. So to speak in front of the car in the back. The cardio gorgeous sunrise. And so it's really like you need to go through this so you can have this House that's really cool. It's really fun at the very least like i said it. Can it can give some quick perspective helps So if you're like even within yourself you can say like. What do i think about this joining reconsider something so very very fun stuff there but anybody that would like to get a tear reading with me or astrology consultation on you can find me pretty much everywhere at the perry rose academy dot com also the perez academy on instagram tiktok. I also have a facebook. I don't do with facebook pinterest. So i love pinterest so in addition to like my content on there i also pin like crystals and gardens faces. I find it very soothing Like pretty late. English and so just like fun. Things that resource wise you know. I post a of blogs at host talk content. And i try to keep it kind of how i was running through all of those zodiac signs with you. I try to you know concise because it's alive information. There's so if you prefer to read blogs in my website if you prefer to some quick little tick talks heads might take talk if you wanna explore some more stuff on instagram. Feed on all over the place. And i'm extremely easy to get a hold of. So if you wanna email me directly just info at rose academy on otherwise you can just signed your on. That's perfect alex. Thank you so so much for doing this reading for me letting me share it with every body. I think what you're doing is really amazing. And i hope that people will take advantage of your services. Because i just think they're going to be so beneficial and if everybody knew themselves like a little bit better i feel like the world would be a better place. It would and we'll get her absolutely so thank you so much alex you well there. They are all the secrets to my inner workings. What makes me tick. i have to tell you. I was sweating in speechless. To during of this reading. I realized why was editing that i hardly spoke. When was explaining my mid heaven to me. After i recorded the episode. Iran out to tell dylan that the universe was propping me up and supporting me to be an entrepreneur. That's been the biggest takeaway that stuck with me ever since two after recording. I sat down with a piece of paper. And i wrote everything down. That was on my mind i discovered some business and personal goals and i already started working through some of them which is amazing. Because of this reading i feel so much more confident to move forward in my life as a business owner partner mother and friend. I have more clarity on things that i do really well in no better why i struggle with certain things so now i can be more mindful when i'm having a conversation and make sure i'm not doing all the talking to me. This birth chart reading has been so valuable and like alex. Said i can dig into it even more overtime. So if you want to see my exact birth chart you can do so in the show notes. And i've also left a link for you to go and create your own and really quick. I wanted to just remind you of what my big three signs worst though. I have a son in gemini moon. Aquarius and rising in aries. So pleased me on instagram. After you listen to this episode and talk to me all about your sites in please consider doing a birth reading or tarot reading with alex at the perry rose academy and be sure to tell her that i sent you. I had to relate this week's ice breaker question to astrology. I mean come on. So alex mentioned that. Jimmy's get a bad rap for being two faced. And i couldn't agree more so today's question is why should someone give a gemini which is honestly a great question very valid. And this is my answer. Even though geminis are symbolized by the twins doesn't mean they're always to faced instead. Think of it more like they her multifaceted and have many interests. I have been guilty of being you know fake or molding into someone else. Depending on who. I'm around but like alex. And i talked about in this interview. I can tell when someone can't handle a difficult situation. So i may deliver my communication in a way that will be better received by them. In geminis are wizards at communicating. They can see right through the bullshit. So in general geminis can give it to you straight without doing too much damage which is a great reason to give a gym. I chance once you to watch yourself because they will do their best to get to know the real you. There's no hiding from germany. They want to know all of you and they will love you even more for it. Jim just aren't good at surface level relationships. If you share the same interests being friends with jim is a no brainer. They will have done all. The research gathered the materials and could talk about this thing. And if you don't like when things get stale and stagnant get yourself a jiminy. They will constantly be rearranging the furniture changing their style. In trying new things. You will never be bored. That's a promise. Most importantly jim is our fun as hell and some of the best friends you will ever have yes. They can be flaky but that's because they have a lot going on their we'll heads okay so just remind them of your plans and they'll bring the booze snacks and games. Thank you so much for listening to today's episode. And i'll talk to you my next one. Thank you so much for listening in today. If you enjoyed this episode please be sure to subscribe an leave. A five star review for more information on this episode. Check out the show notes on my website. At morgan anderson dot blog. If you loved what we talked about today please go ahead and screenshot this episode in your podcast app then sher tier instagram stories. And don't forget to tag me at morgan anderson dot. Co you listening in today really does mean the world to me and i hope you have an incredible day.

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Promenade Merchants #30, Star Trek Prodigy: Coffee Yet To Be Confirmed

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Promenade Merchants #30, Star Trek Prodigy: Coffee Yet To Be Confirmed

"What's up cuties. This is the promenade. Merchants podcast star trek podcast out on the frontier. So sit down and grab a rock to gino. David majors and heather curvy talk all things star trek old new and what's to the promenade virgins are open for business. What's up everybody. Welcome to the thirtieth episode of the promenade merchants. Podcast this is a completely independent star trek podcast with myself david majors and my co host. Miss heather kirby what's up. Heather updated happy memorial day weekend. Everyone i am super excited for today. Because as you guys know we'd like to invite a guest on about every five episodes or so sometimes a little more spliced in there but today's guest is very very special. Actually neither of you know this. Because i don't think i've ever told the two of you this before but i. I met david by listening to him. On our guest podcasts. Yes so that's why i. I follow david on twitter. So ironically like somewhere down the line. Connect the dots somewhere. Our special guests today is responsible for david night becoming friends and starting this podcast. So welcome mr alex. Perry that is awesome. Thank you guys. I appreciate you having me. I'm very very happy to be here. It is a pleasure to have you alex. Welcome to the promenade. We like to think that you've been working so hard on. Weekly trek sifting through the dominion propaganda thoughts. You'd like to sit down and have a have a break in chile and have some rack to gina with us so that thanks for coming on the podcast. Absolutely it's always a pleasure to be in the on the third jump seat on the bridge for change well for new listeners. Out there will get started We have a little bit format on the prominent merchants. Podcasts where we talk about old business whereas sharks fra is essentially kind of from the original all the way up to an including the kelvin universe. And just kind of general tricky conversation chat stuff in things New businesses anything. That's happening right now in the world of star trek and then later on we'll talk about upcoming business which we'll look at on always intended star trek beyond on always intended. So let's just jump in Heather you use adjusted this when and we put it on the show she Believed that you were talking about this. When in an alex. I think this is one that came up. In your periphery recently right heather. This was star trek generations. Well yeah so. It's the first of the tng movies but it's also kind of across our movie between the original series cast and the next generation cast. And so it's kind of one of those enigma movies where you either love it or you hate it and i happen to know that alex. This is one of your favorite personal star trek movies so i thought it would be a good topic to talk about today. I love star trek generations. Let's do it okay. Well as we know this was the first movie in be star. Trek universe to feature the next generation cast and in the beginning of this movie we saw the cast from the original series of this was sort of a passing of the torch of sorts. That was not all They the crew of the enterprise d Through guinan encounter a scientist in lorient scientist named sarin played by malcolm mcdowell who is trying to enter a rip in space time known as the nexus. Now i'm gonna wave my flag here in say this was maybe one of the very first movies i saw in a theater and i feel like i'm one of the fortunate few. I got caught up in the hype of seeing the cast of next generation in movies. Even though my mom and my sister were more aware of the fact that the series was ending than i was and me we little david was like oh cool. It's gonna be a star trek movie and it's going to have the the cast from the old show in is going to have both so awesome and i i must have been like nine or ten at the time Alex i will ask you. When did you first see star. Trek generations so i was living in saudi arabia. At the time. I would have been eight years old and i did not see the movie in thesis but i was living on like this compound that had all these sexual people. Americans brits australians et cetera. And they had this sort of internal tv network it on which they showed all kinds of stuff from the uk and from the us. And and i guess this must have been ninety. Five yeah it would've been ninety five because it was sake generations coming to television in every week they would put out the td guy that would go out in like three or four weeks ahead. And so i got wind that started generations was gonna come was gonna be on tv on this one channel like three weeks away highlight it and i counted down every day to when that movie was on television i watched. It was enamored with it from the first time i saw. I know for those of you for whom it's not your favorite movie. I understand the fluids associated with it. It is a deeply flawed movie but it is one. I personally enjoy immensely. I then when we got back to the uk it was one of the first star trek movies. I got vhs and it's just always had a very special place in my heart. And the older. I get the less embarrassed i am by that. And so as you know as as i like publish you know. What's my favorite movie. List generations creeps up and up and up every time. I do it. All right You said that you were around nine or ten was it during. Its original release period. Yes it would have been. It would've been offering. It was in thesis but but like at the point at which was starting to hit television so probably about a year after it was in thesis. Okay heather what about you. What when did you first see. Star trek rations to my recollection. Like maybe two years ago. My star trek movies really. I didn't and it's just one of those things. Like i might have gone and see in some of them in the theater but the first one i remember seeing in the theater was insurrection. So i don't remember seeing first. Contact generations in the theatre. Even though i probably was old enough to have guns and seen them so yeah the first time i remember watching it was about a couple years ago and you know i really i. I'm just such a a movie file. I guess that. I understand that there are flaws and things at people definitely might not like about the movie but i really appreciate the type of people who do really love movies like that. I mean because it. It doesn't take a whole lot to connect to a movie and it could be for very personal reasons or it could just be for. There's something about that movie that calls out to you and there's ads. It was the christmas right. it was the christmas. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. You know so. Even if in general people think the movies bad. There's always going to be someone who loves it. And i said that's particularly why i pick to talk about it with alex. 'cause i knew he loved it so i'd rather talk about it with someone who loves it and can see the good parts in it than someone. Who's disconnect trash. I i'm really interested in this Polarizing opinion on star trek generations. Because i always knew that it wasn't a perfect movie by any means. No but in my opinion and this might get me some heat. I don't know it. Certainly not insurrection. On i'll say i've come around on insurrection over time it's grown on me over time but i definitely still enjoy generations quite a lot more In the times that. I've gone back to watched it. I do think that Like some of the things that i've said about the next generation. I would probably say about this. Movie as well lighting filming. It looks very nineteen. Ninety-four i i remember saying. Recently i wash this movie maybe three years ago again. That the enterprise d as it is seen in. This movie doesn't exactly look the best on film in my opinion but i know that they started filming this movie literal days after the next generation wrapped and finished at seventh and final season. And i also know that the budget wasn't exactly high at the time. Maybe for nineteen ninety-four. It was high but it felt like there. Were some things about this movie. That weren't exactly on the highest budget. I don't know maybe it's just me looking back. In retrospect but alex i'll ask you overall. What did you like about the movie. How'd you feel about it. What did you like so few things. I actually think that the enterprise d never looked better than it did in star. Trek generations The cinematography so clearly they still on the same stats that they had filmed. They just finished seven years worth of tv and so they took a very interesting lighting. Approach to lighting all of the enterprise. These sets that were designed to try and hide the fact that that was seventy as a wear and tear on the bridge on ten four within and that is why the ship is destroyed by the end of the movie. It's because those sets were built for television not fulfil and so. They knew that they couldn't get more than one. Movie out of the enterprise d they would have to get. We're going to have to get another enterprise that they could build in the correct ratio. June's i'm really glad they did. Just because like 'cause the changes they made on the bridge right where they they raise the captain's chat up. They left in in in august things. The future enterprise. They had put platform in for the captain's chair that raised it up basically to more or less the level of tactical station and they'd added in the bank of Consoles on both sides of the bridge those were done so that when you shoot the sat you have something visually interesting in the whole picture because with the television cameras. You're any filming a square with the film cameras filming rectangles so you need more to kind of fill out the picture and because the square is longer from top to bottom than the rectangle is. That's why they had to pull out the captain's check 'cause you couldn't have put pakad and wolf in the same shot together being seen on screen if you hadn't pulled up the captain's ship so i actually think i think that's a really good For me the thing. I really like about. The movie is I really. I really liked the villain. I really like sarin. I know that one of the things that a lot of people get really upon around why they don't like generations is the nexus in the way that the movie resolves itself in the fact that cook has a pretty weak death which i will accept that because why could may have just rather than go back if the next could spit them out anywhere why did why did they decide to spit it out. Like thirty minutes before the end of the universe this is. Why don't do it ten hours before the end of the universe and then he got plenty of time to like fix. Whatever the problem was so we'll take that rent movies right exactly. But but i always find the the the character of sarin to be really interesting one. his perspectives on time and death and his motivations wasteful incredibly genuine to me. I really loved those scenes between picard and cook once against the action stuff later again. That's where it stops the full of a little bit because you know. I think a lot of people had hoped. That coach himself would have a slightly more glorious than that. He would die on in under a bridge but the those conversations between those two characters. Aw really good. Especially given the point in life that both of them are and the pieces of advice that that both schering with each other at that moment to kind of connect on that fundamental level to decide to undertake this particular mission. And i do like. I mean it is really cool. This idea crossing over the original series movie cost with the next generation movie costuming. You know this is. This is what it would been like eighteen. Years pre avenge is right. Which is this idea of taking different characters from different movies and put them together in the same movie. this is. People don't agree with me that it makes the same quality but this is in some ways the avengers four star trek right. You'll bring together characters from these two different movie franchises and bring them together and sharing at least somewhat an adventure. So i really enjoy it. I love seeing the next generation stuff on the big screen. I think said patrick. Stewart tens in a masterful acting performance. I think william shannon sends integrate. Active performance malcolm mcdowell tin's in an incredible acting performance to be star trek's greatest villains and it has the best bar none crash sequence of any star trek movie at home s. Fifteen minutes sequence beginning at again tons to criticize about the battle itself right. Why does a twenty year old. But pray. Take down the enterprise day with like five shots will accept. That was not the best thing ever happened but from the moment they from the moment you. You're in that engineering and jordi. Taxes to the bridge says bridge. We got new problem with five minutes away from a wolf cooperate. There's nothing i can do all the way through the moment when rica regains consciousness looks up at the window on the ceiling of the bridge and sees blue sky above him. That is one of the best most exciting best effects action sequences in all of star trek. History bond none it is a gripping sequence and it's one of star best. I completely agree. And i will save my point to get in trouble as i like to do a little bit later. But heather Tell me i. I loved everything. He said about malcolm mcdowell. Because i thought he was a great and willy underrated star trek villain myself Looking back on star trek generations. What about it really stuck out for you. There's something that i am going to talk about in a little bit That might get me in trouble a lot of trouble. But i would love to know like what about generations really stood out for you. Well there's a couple things that really stood out for me and the one was the fact that guinan plays a huge role in the movie. I think guinan is such an important character to n. g. even though she wasn't a member of the regular clap the the regular cast and so for her to play such a huge role in their very first movie especially is just really awesome to watch The other thing that really sticks out to me is the card really getting emotional over the loss of his brother and his nephew. You there are times throughout. Tng's run where you see picard show emotions but they don't really overcome him and the one thing that kinda at least they go through in. The movies is to watch him really deep dive into his emotions Because they do it in first contact with his anger and fear with the board and they do it a little bit in nemesis as well and so here in generations. They do a real deep dive into loss and the struggle to want to have a family and connect with other people. And i think it's just really it's really wonderful to watch such a strong character like picard that a lot of people look up to and watched him struggle and deal with something like that. Well said all right. This is the part of the problem merchants. Podcast where david says something that might be controversial. He gets himself in trouble with the track faz out there I'm not going to reiterate all of the great things. Alex and heather said. But i am going to bring up a point about this movie that really stuck in my head in a not so great way and that's data and i remember feeling this way as a kid watching the movie in the theater and when i watched the movie again as an adult i felt the same way now in star trek data was an android through the majority of star trek. The next generation. Lieutenant commander data did not have emotions because he was an android docked. Soon didn't have that program into him yet. And then we got the emotion shape and then i remember watching in the theater little nine year old david and aside from maybe one of the more light hearted scenes i think it was the particular scene where data had the drink and he realized he hated it after that the emotion chip kinda wore out. Its welcome for me. Because while brent spiner laid it exceptionally well this idea of data discovering motions and how he would adjust to it. It kind of graded on me a little bit and got a little tiresome for me. And i don't know. I i just felt like there were times in the script and in v the writing of the movie were they were really trying to shoehorn. Comedic moments with data in it and that kind of became a recurring theme throughout the course of the movies with the cast of tea and gene at data in a lot of ways became comedic relief and that got a little tiresome in this movie. It started there for me and it really kind of wore. On however i will say brent spiner absolutely nailed the performance himself but seeing the moments that you could clearly see that the writers of them were saying let's have data discover motions with stuff that silly. Let's have data say shit in a film and that'll get everybody really crazed overhearing profanity in a star trek movie. Can't imagine that lever. Come up again. But i think that might have been my one negative. Take away from them. Because i'm really surprised. Alex i would love to hear you on on this. I was always under the impression that the response to star trek generations was mostly positive I really never seen much disparaging remarks towards the movie not nearly as much as nemesis certainly. Not as much as insurrection. What other things have they said about generations. that really knocked it down for some people. I know you mentioned kirks death. But what else was it. Cuts death the the sort of contrived way that the whole movie ends the action sequence at the end. You know the sort of fistfight in the valley of fire and And i disagree with you about data me now so it's a logical evolution for the character right. It's sort of the next stage that characters reached but at the same time it's also the end of the character's journey because then he basically more or less is human and at that point the only thing left to explore. His death isn't that what did the other part of the movie which i agree is really bad is What i would describe as qods like weirdly chased christmas family fantasy. Which has this like. i don't know it just it. It doesn't suit. It doesn't suit the character at all in my mind. This like you know. He's the next. This is supposed to be showing him the thing that he wants the most. And it's this victorian era family christmas scene. Where he's got this wife. There's nobody we've ever met before. And he's got these children who you know. We've never had any inkling odds and then his nephews there and he's in like house in it and it doesn't feel like it's the twenty four th century. It feels like eighteen seventy four and that just are we sure it just wasn't like a a retelling of a christmas carolina holic. I mean that's kind of what it is but it's like i don't know in my mind. I told myself that the mexican doesn't show you the pharisees that you actually have. It shows you the fancies that you think you should have. Because that's the only way. I reconcile what that was. Because the show never said the picard wanted that right like his dalliances up to that. Like fash one of his big flames from during the show. And there's nothing kind of victorian chased christmas about fashion So yeah that whole section of the movie is just it's it. It is the kindest seen that you would write. And i know it was written by wrongly more brannon braga and they know because they've written pakad a bunch times but on the it's the kind of scene you right if you had the only the most surface understanding of jean luc picard and he. He is right if you just watch of the next generation. That's the kind of thing you'd come up with and it's just it's just not good. It's a it's a terrible section of the movie wonder why they deviated so much by giving good categorization of zone. The picard honestly. I think it's because the movie was coming out around christmas. And they wanted to plug. They wanted to sign wanted to make it a christmas movie. Yeah exactly that's how it worked with gun wings annonay. I got there right because the the movies of hangs around this idea that picard suffered this great loss in way he loses a cherished pot of his family and it makes him reassess his decision not to have a family up to that point and at that moment in his life. He's feeling great. Regret about the fact that he never sat down and had a child because he discovers in that moment that the idea of the picard family line. And you know the family continuing one. This really quite important to him. And so given that setup earlier in the movie in that in that fabulous scene where he breaks down in His courses with while he's looking through the family album. It makes sense that when he goes into the nexus the thing that he would see that would be the thing that he in that moment has said he really wants right. Which is that stability and not family. But it just doesn't it fits it fits within a sort of very simplistic narrative frame with the movie itself. But it doesn't fit within this being a mu the that comes off to one hundred eighty episodes of the next generation in which. We've gotten to know this character batta. Yeah okay So overall we've got to ask within the scope of the t and g movies heather allies you. Where would you put star trek generations. I'd probably put it like third right allah three. But we're say i would go third. Okay all right. I would say. Let me think i would say that it solidly third by book. Only because number four is a distant fourth but i would say that. It's definitely third. What i i always found it to be a pretty enjoyable movie overall. Especially if you're a star trek man if you are a star trek fan and if you have not seen it check it out. Oh heather speaking of checking out star trek movies. Since the last time we recorded. I watched star trek for the one with the whales. I met and i have now. I am now officially a star trek completion. Est all right. That was the last one on the list. And the reason i i avoided that wouldn't is because light captain janeway. I don't like time in star trek. A lot of the time travel stuff comes off is really really crazy to me. So i avoided that one for the longest time and it was fine. It was fine. I know a lot of people love that movie message. And the fact that leonard nimoy wrote and directed it and it was fine. It was okay. And i'm ready to move on. I'm ready to move on I had something the while. We've been away. I have been kind of doing sort of casual rewatch of tng. Maybe an episode or a day or so here and there. And i came across one episode. And i realized that if i were to introduce dr trek the next generation or maybe even all star trek the franchise to someone. I felt like this would be the episode and for me. It was season three episode seven the enemy and it was a in my opinion. A really great episode where. We saw lavar burton stranded on a planet injured with a romulus soldier who is also injured and we saw some great back and forth between captain picard and. Tom locked the robinson commander. Who had become sort of the arch nemesis of the next generation during this era and it was just a great great episode. It had lots of great performances. Michael dorn lavar burton Just a fantastic episode overall and alex. I'll ask you this one Have you ever had or d you have. Maybe that one television episode of star trek where you think you might say. This is the episode. When i think of star trek and how i want other people to see star trek. This is that episode. You think you have one of those yes for me. It's the ultimate episode of the season of the next generation. Time scape where the it's picard and troy and reicher and they're on a runabout may coming back from a conference and they find the enterprise and a romulus trapped in time and it looks like they're in the middle of a big fight and they deem aboard and everybody's like stuck in time and they have to decipher what happened on the ships. Them fix it without cause like the enterprises in the process of is in the very early stages of blowing up so But it turns out that it's like it. It actually the enterprise of the romulus working together because there was this alien who was like toronto like birthday young in the in the official singularity of the realm of the wolf cooler and it caused a catastrophic accident. And so it's one of those where a it's got a lot of like scienc- techno babble stuff has got some action it's got some and it's one of those ones that sort of deconstructs the original sin. What you're seeing right. What you think you're seeing is a battle between the enterprise and the romulo wilbert in process and so then the thing is like well how do we. How do we figure out how to get the good guys to be the bad guys. But then as the episode goes on it slowly. Deconstructs that to show you that actually. That's not what's happening. It's much more complicated than that. And an everybody ends up working together which courses like the sort of classic of star trekkie idea that was seized six episode twenty five. This one was actually directed by adam. Nimoy how about that yet. That's right one of the one of the like three or four. That he did mr terry farrell while we're at it heather how 'bout you If you have like one episode of star trek series it can be from any of them that you would say like vistas is star trek episode. That i would show to a new viewer of the franchise. Do you think you have one. Oh see that's a hard question. That's a hard question for me. Because i honestly believe that especially with the amount of star trek that is available that it really just depends on the person to find the show that would really hook them out of all of them. If i had to pick one television episode seattle like how specified television episode one television episode. It would actually be The series premiere of enterprise. Roeken bow. Interesting choice why broken bow. I'm really interested. That's an interest. I i just. I think Like a lot of times. If i'm suggesting the someone where they should start star trek. I actually tell them. To start with enterprise. Because i think enterprise really personifies the drive and the lake human need or want for exploration which is the basis of what star trek is about even though it has nothing to do with the federation or anything like that But it really personifies some of the human traits that are a big part of star trek. So yeah that's i would pick broken out now if we're talking about movies as well star trek. Oh nine definitely. I think that would be the one. I would suggest for anyone and everyone who might be possibly interested in diving into the star. Trek universe is to watch star trek. I feel like that's a good starting point. It's fairly recent so film and production or are still pretty enjoyable in pretty good That first reboot movie is pretty enjoyable. I think There's action we get introduced to some two semi conic characters or reintroduced to some iconic characters. Yeah that's a good choice. But now i'm really going to press you since you brought up the point about the television heather if there was something on. Cbs all access that someone were to say or or rather paramount plus. Sorry i did that Paramount plus If there was maybe an episode on paramount plus of star trek with would you say would be a good kind of gateway know like because you could be my enterprise thanks. Are we knocking lake. I actually love your enterprise. Pick that that's actually one. I had not thought of really love it. But since you did sp- specify television in we are in this new paramount star trek. Where we're talking like the the newer shows now. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah okay. I actually think broken bose a great pick like it's a really inspired great pick. I really do okay. So talking about the new shows i would go with the season. Two premiere of discovery brother. Because i'm the weirdo. Who likes slightly more than new eden. I completely agree. I'm totally. i think that one really personifies on the star trek in the streaming era and pike's just the introduction of captain pike in that episode is so well done and really personifies Just the the crew working together not wanting to leave anyone behind. I think those are some things that are really important star trek today. I absolutely love that speaking as someone who does love new eden as someone who does love that episode. I think that's that is also a great choice. alex If there was a paramount plus era star trek episode. You might pick to be kind of the intro to star trek right now. What do you think you would be for you. I think i'm going to pick the short track. The brightest star one west serene gets recruited into staff late Just because you know if you show someone something fifteen minutes and if they're interested show bit more evidence that sort of like the theme of the of the short track round striving for more you know wanting to reach fourth in connect with the winding universe around you and i think that's very reflective of the as a whole. I think that's a fantastic choice. It is seru someone a on camera. Who really has no concept of the universe being introduced to the larger universe that is star trek by captain. George oh and. I think that's absolutely fantastic. It's it's almost symbolic in a way that it would be someone being introduce to star trek for the first time. I think that's really really good. Alex that's that's another great inspired. Pick brealey thank you. You guys are killing it. You guys are accident. So let's just jump into new business then This awesome Loveness love this star trek prodigy We got a little trickle of news. From kate mulgrew where she gave us details on. How the holographic janeway will be introduced to the aliens in the delta quadrant star trek prodigy. do not know of coffee was confirmed yet or not heather. You saw this story. What did you think. Well i. I mean i love. I am the type of person who gathers up all the snippets of the detail as they get released about the new show so I love it. I think it's an interesting concept Alike expect the kids to be actually incarcerated on some sort of planet and go and are trying to escape their their prison guards in their jailers. And that's how they end up finding the ship and they try to use it to escape the planet but they can't get anything working right and then of course janeway pops up. Can i help you. It's the type of introduction that will especially snare a children's imagination and their their minds and really hook them in that way. So i think it's really exciting and i can't wait to see it whenever it finally get to this year. They're saying twenty twenty one. Alex how are you about star trek prodigy. And this sort of introduction is to how things will go your. I'm really looking forward to it. It's funny. I feel a bit like every time. I think i'm getting my hands around this show and what it's gonna be am what it is. They throw another curveball at man. I'm like oh well. That's kinda not quite what i was expecting in a good way. I mean it's you know it would suck if it were were released to figure out exactly what the show was going to be what it was about right now because you know that's then it would be terribly creative So it's it's a good thing that i am being surprised and having my sumptious challenged by it but yeah i'm you know it's sort of throws up a bunch of questions right around like you know. Why would these characters imprisoned. What's the sheriff. It sounds like the shit's been there for a while right from the way she says it's you know they find the ship and it sorta buried then you know. How long has the ship been there. If it's been there for a while janeway hologram on it. You know lots of lots and lots of questions that need answering the you know. The other thing too is this. This hasn't come up in what kate mulgrew was saying. But mike mcmahon was giving it. who's the lower deck's creator was giving an interview with trek movie about Season one release on dvd. And he started talking about season two when he was talking about how. They're now show run as meetings the six show runners to come together. The the current stock shows to come together and like catch up until treat each other about like what they're doing so they don't you know using characters too much like do the same things right him in my guess is maybe it's a consequence of the fact that reicher shows up to save the day in the lower deck season. One finale and in the season one finale in those were only like four months upon But one of the things could also well shula. And i love it. I'm all for it. But but my guess is if they had been talking to each other. I doubt they would have ended up doing that. But that's always use a now. And mike man was saying that in those meetings him in the prodigy guys will frequently have these conversations about k which characters you plan to use. You know you know our we were about using that character. What were you think about using that current to four and that's also really interesting because lower deck's is set in the alpha quadrant prodigy is supposedly set in the delta coaching. But if there is this question of like overlapping characters then there's also presumably than some other legacy characters in addition to janeway who appear in the show. But how's that possible if the show set in the delta quadrant the being the alpha quadrant and then you that won't be lee campbell. Who played o'connor in that dreadful second season episode of the next generation. You light donna avoid prodigy. Holly does that all adds together to be like what is this. We really don't know. Hopefully we'll find out soon. My big theory had been that the show was going to premiere like this week but of course that's not happening so i guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm just going to say it's wormholes. That's what i'm going with. It's got to be something right right. It's that that's kind of how i see it. It's it's bound to be wormholes and you really didn't like the episode with billy campbell. Dreadful billy campbell on one hand and then the be plot is data and joe piscopo like trying to teach him how to be funny. And it's the lamest comedy in the world may. Maybe that's why i like it because it i. I thought that episode was a lot of good campy fun. It was early. Tng championships in enjoyed it. Big mess okay. I agree to disagree but something we can agree on is the fact that star trek conventions are awesome. Heather i believe this is one that you actually brought up this time. Not me. Because i know i mr. I've been to a thousand different conventions in my life but this was actually from you about something happening in columbus right. Yeah so. I found out this week that there is a new convention coming to columbus in november called fan boy expo and i'm super excited because both doug jones and arman shipper men are slated to be guests at the expo. So my topic idea was Is in lieu of the larger star trek specific conventions. Are there any local conventions near you is. That make are making plans to be happening this year. And do they have any star trek guests. There is a big sort of cross com economy convention. That happens in the dc area code awesome kong every year. That is happening in august. And i think george decay you scheduled to be there. I know they like they're talking about guests right now because it was supposed to have been lost eastern. That didn't happen because of covid on now going to be late august and so they're starting to announce the guests. And yes. I think they george decay that and then It's not. I didn't use happening this year because it should be happening like a month to i think they prematurely cancelled it but the long running surely convention takes place in maryland every year. William shatner's on As well Shot yeah twenty. Two twenty seconds which i might go to. I didn't have much of an interest in had plenty of shana time and jewish ikaes impossible to get old trough with because he spends like twenty five minutes talking to everybody gets worse with so even tempe nine stone be four hours before he gets to him but yeah i only go if there's a normally goats if there's if there's one good star trek asks that i want to go and see al olsen con And i'm looking forward to shuli getting backup online. The probably be next to that. One has been going on since the nineties and that was like a one of those like classic ninety star trek conventions. Most of those are gone now. They live in cities all across. Us law than on on around anymore but surely still exist. I saw broaden to not just being star trek these days but so shameless not having this year but totally understandable wide a made the decision a couple months ago. Yeah david i will say motor city comic con which happened a virtually. Maybe like a week or two ago. Didn't really have any right now. It's looking like as far as motorcity comecon grand rapids comecon. There really aren't a lot right now. That will be having guests. I'm not even sure. How many image detroit area or even in the state of michigan will be having celebrity guests. Much less star trek guess So really right. Now it's kind of looking like no. We don't really have a whole lot right now. in michigan I'm i'm kind of perusing been perusing. And so far a really not seeing much of any for twenty twenty one. I think that while. I'm certain it will definitely change next year but yet right mouth. Twenty twenty one in in michigan in the detroit area cannot really had not really which to a degree. I understand I think that everyone in their mother is going to be going extra hard for twenty twenty two and i kind of understand that point of view because right now it's still. It's still kind of touch and go. It's still a little iffy in some parts of the country. And i get it. I get that so yeah not right now not for me. Oh well well. You always welcome to come down to columbus in november. If this con- does actually happen. I mean obviously november's pretty far away so things could change between now and then but come visit meet. Doug jones with me. It'll be fun. I had the pleasure of meeting. Doug jones wants before at motor city comic con in two thousand eight I made a joke about bug busters and we shared a laugh. So i would hope that i can bring up another one of doug. Jones is more secure movies in. Hopefully we can talk about that. If i decide to go looking forward to convention span especially mission star trek man. That is going to be so great. It's going to be great and this episode has been. It's been absolutely fantastic and alex perry. I cannot thank you enough for joining us. You have been nothing short of exemplary for this episode. Alex tell everybody what you've got going on. Yeah as you mentioned up top hosta And what you both guests on Quite recently i host a weekly star trek news. Podcast called weekly track all the star trek news in forty minutes or less each week most weeks. We've been every other week the last month or so because it hasn't been a massive amount of news but i got an episode coming up very shortly and Yeah anybody who's interested in reaching out and carrying on the conversation. You can best place to find me on twitter. You can find me at weekly track on the show. You can find me on twitter at t. Perry on the show is weekly track which you can find at weekly track. Everyone listen and subscribe to weekly track. It is fantastic. I'm not just saying that. Because heather. And i've been on it. It is a great show. You get your weekly fix of star trek news. Free from the dominion propaganda. You'll love to hear it. And alex again can't thank you enough for coming on Heather another project pot is in the bag. What have you got going on for the folks to hear about. You can follow me on twitter at nerdy gal thirty three. I could promise to stop talking about law and order. Svu since the season is almost up. But i can't promise that it will still happen. But hopefully i will talk more about star trek as we get into new star trek coming within the next couple of months so on a bit of a dry spell. What star trek right now. It's a bit of a dry spell by all all of the trekkie podcasters out there. Let's just beyond us. It's kinda dry right now with all of the shows in production slow bit dry. Hey because in six months it's going to be just a massive unrelenting deluge. Oh i can't wait. Yeah okay so everybody. Thank you for listening Check us out on twitter at prom. 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18. The Magic of Rest with Chelsea Hall

The Good-Hearted Podcast

1:06:00 hr | 2 months ago

18. The Magic of Rest with Chelsea Hall

"You're listening to the goodhearted. Podcast a show that helps you deconstruct your old ways of thinking and inspires you to love the truest version of yourself. I'm morgan anderson. I'm a writer. A mother and a mental health advocate. I'm here to guide you on your self love journey. I love offering you encouragement to be the bad ass. You are every single week in these episode. Joel also here powerful conversations. I have with other good hearted people that will give you a different perspective in leave. You inspired life is hard. I don't think we have to take it too seriously. So throw your hair up your earbuds in and let's get to work. Hello and welcome to another episode of the goodhearted podcasts. I am so excited to share with you today. A conversation. I had with my really good friend chelsea hall all about rest recharging hustle culture and all the things that we struggled with when we were building our businesses in our early twenties and how it looked so drastically different now that we're thirty or almost thirty and really have our footing and have realized how important rest is in order to sustain a business and to actually enjoy the light that you're trying to build and you know save money for all of these things versus just working at a way being so addicted to the grind. I think no matter what you do as far as career goes or what your life looks like. This is a conversation that you need to listen to because we all need the permission and the reminder to rest and to schedule it in or just added into our day throughout the day to make sure that we're recharged in taking care of ourselves. Chelsea has been a photographer for over a decade now and she specializes in weddings. I love that. She takes a photo journalist approach to wedding days and she's also very passionate about making sure that humans feel comfortable in front of her camera so they can show off their true selves and she can capture them in that way. She's a proud rescue cat. Mama ana music junkie. I love watching her dance parties on her instagram stories. She photographs right here in dayton ohio. And i'm so thankful. I met her so long ago. And we've been able to grow and evolve over the last few years as business owners. I really hope you enjoyed our conversation. Chelsea welcome to the goodhearted podcast. I'm so excited chat with you today. I'd love for you to say hi to my audience and tell us a little bit about you awesome. Well hey friends. I'm chelsea with chelsea hall photography. I've been a professional photographer. it's two thousand twelve. I'm celebrating a decade in business. Next year is super exciting I started my business in two thousand twelve. I pry graduated from rate state university with a bachelor's degree in mass communication focused in photojournalism right before i graduated new york times decided that they were going to fire. Author photojournalists So i was just really nervous to go in that direction and really knew that. I wanted to continue with photography in see where that road would take me so i decided to teach myself richer and at that time i had a fine art and photo journalism background with photography. And that's when. I decided that was gonna try out weddings newborns and families an everything just kind of figure out what i wanted and i decided that mixing photojournalism in documenting a day with the torture that i taught myself was perfect for weddings where i can adjust if i on the wall. What makes my heart happy. Which documenting things. I love your style. It is definitely like documentary style. And i just love it seems so true to the actual events that happened and i feel like in pataki. Obviously we've both been winning offers. I feel like sometimes that can get lost in translation because of crazy edits and posing and things like that and you do a great job. I love it And so when we met you had been in business for a couple years at that point for. That's what i'm thinking. Yeah and i was probably like a year or two and by the time we met and we were definitely both trying to ramp up our businesses. We were working like crazy. Second shooting for tons of other people like every second week got so. Take me back to like that time in your business and kind of just think. How was your mental health. Our you personally and like what was going on. I'm actually gonna take you back further than that. Because at wright state i have multiple jobs and i was going to school fulltime so i was just kind of like used to having my time filled to the brim and just like always having something on my calendar always having someplace to go from my freshman year to my senior year. I had like two to three jobs at a time. Plus going to school so i had just gotten myself really use to really like a sling and just like going going going and i've always been somebody who has super high goals and i'm very focused so just i don't. I was like what. I wanna get where i want go. I'm willing to work harder. I'm going to do more than anybody else. And i'm just getting it again pair so after college i was already in that mindset. I didn't know any different. And i got a job as a bank teller. Because i wanted to work part time so that i could start focusing on my business How would you about thirty hours. A week Being tiller and then i spend the rest of the time photographing sessions in the evenings and photographing weddings on the weekends and editing and literally any of my spare time so that was around a couple years in his win. I started to go into more like fulltime with myself. I think it was around year. Five but before that i was again working for multiple companies Kind of like scaling up in my business in. I like slowly stale down with them but my goal was literally. I remember sitting in my apartment at the time in my desk was in our had two roommates. I was living with my boyfriend at the time in our roommate and my desk was in our living room so i was literally the my desk editing and they were just like while exponentially the roommate Bless him he was like. Why are you. You're always out. You're you're always out. You're always on your computer yet. And then i moved into a studio apartment where my like bedroom was. My living room was my office. Was my kitchen so working from home. And just like i would wake up in the morning and go straight to editing and then i would go to my graphic design job and i would come home and edits more. Have a meeting go to session. Income back i would go to bed. I was a workaholic and my goal was always double double my income. Double how many weddings. I was doing. My goal was to always just level up in level up level up. And now it's just where my mindset was around that time and i can totally relate to that it was like more and more and more. I couldn't rest. You know sitting watching netflix. Like i needed to be also editing. When i was in college i worked three jobs. Even when i you know had time work i was still doing side jobs or you know second shooting like we talked about before and i mean i struggled with bernau like nobody's business but i didn't care i like tried to push through it but i made myself sick because i- overworked myself and that was a very hard time for me looking back. I just want to like give those girls a hug and be like what are you doing your time. It's okay so fast. But i definitely feel like of the culture and everything we were hearing like. Instagram was booming at the time and everybody was like work work work. So you can get this. And like i just feel like that's why we had that mentality and we took pride in being like go-getters and you know trying to do the next big thing but it wears you out. Yeah it definitely takes a toll on you and if you keep going and not taking the time to relax when your body says so like relax your mind when it's like when it can't do any work it takes a toll on your work. It takes a toll on your relationship with your clients. Your relationship with your family. Your relationship with your friends i family. Yeah exactly what is my family Bless my friends. Because i've literally told them no for like during wedding season every weekend for like eight years and like i'm definitely lucky. Fat like stayed by side this home Oh yeah. Because i'm like i don't know if i would do that like not really but it's just that it was that hard thing like i'm trying to build this business. This is my dream. This is what i feel like made to do. But like i'm not living. You know i mean yeah i. I didn't see my friends for years either and then we were also putting off certain things because it's busy season like i cannot. It's a weird balance. And i don't even know if the right word but i definitely learned eventually that like i had to slow down and i had to rest because i was busting my ass and i had hardly anything to show for it. Really the grand scheme of things you know. I had the pretty instagram. And things like that but like what else did i have so for you. What did it look like when you you had enough with this. Let's say around probably around year five year five years six which like crazy that. It took me that long. But i feel like in. Every while i was building my goal was always to go full time. So i felt like i needed like work as much. I could reinvest any until i could afford to pay myself. And then eventually like weaned myself off my other jobs and start going full time with my business. I felt like. I finally pay myself enough that i was making my other jobs. That's my full time so that really felt like the first time that i was like okay. I'm figuring out how to do justice in only this and i had took like a year and like well you know. I don't really know maybe this isn't how to euro and then the next year would be the same and that around like year four year five when i was like really figuring it out. Okay i need to start adding boundaries to business I need to start picking and choosing days that. I have sessions in the evening. I need to do every free photo shoe in styles such styled shoe and like give my work away for free for wake advertising and stuff for other vendors and i was like i really need to figure out what is best for what's best for my mental health. What's going to be best for my family overall in that literally was just like setting boundaries. Learning how to say. No which i love that. You're like spreading that message in your podcast. I think that's super important. Just like building that confidence in yourself knowing that not having that scarcity mindset where you need to work work work in knowing that the jobs are gonna come your way as long as you're continuing to put out good work as long as you're doing everything that you need to do. The works gonna come your way and it takes a little bit. it takes self-confidence. I was really twenties when i started my business and i just turned thirty last year. So thoroughly taking me. Thirty years psych confident in myself and be like no. That's not for me. I'm sorry. Like i wanna be able to help you out but i really can't you working with somebody else or you. Working with another vendor is going to be better for both for both of us better experts over there because there you're going to click with them you know i'll be able to work with clients dot click with me just taking while to really like grow that confidence this established the boundaries. Know when. I'm going to have meetings when i'm open to have shoots when i'm open for second shooting and stuff like that but i guess what has been hard like difficult for me like my story is a little bit different than other people. Because i've been living alone for six years. Like i lived alone that studio apartment fairburn and then i moved to belmont caution. Like i feel like i've been dayton now for like swore year five hundred four or five years now and i moved about my in like a one bedroom apartment myself. I'm of like always had to pay my own bills. I haven't had people to split things with bryce sir like i could have found a room but i knew that i was getting older. And i just really. I thrived butter like living. So i felt like i did have to work a little bit more to be able to pay my bills. And all of that. Like i say in a partnership where we could bells and help out a little bit where i could be more picky be more choosy about what clients i took or if i was second shooting for other photographers more I definitely felt like. I had to take on more. So i could pay my bills but the older i got in the more that i raise my prices to value my own time into know that i could be doing less and making the same amount still working just as hard. I was just hitting underpaid. Yes first few years snows akash if you talk to any target for like their first rates like you know that. There're gosh the first couple of years. I was making poverty level like i mean i think there was one year where i made eleven thousand dollars holding. We're like and that's when i lived in a studio apartment. I know people get a little uncomfortable talking numbers. But that's just kind of like the reality of the situation that i was in. Why iphone lake. I had to do so much. I am now. Yeah absolutely because. I feel like even me in the past. I've had a safety net. 'cause i've had a husband that worked a full-time job and like he was able to cover the bills. But i didn't have that kind of pressure. And i remember one. Time at a tuesday's together meeting you talked about this story of struggling with bills and things like that and i do think it's a totally different perspective and kind of frames more like you had to be a workaholic for awhile to be able to get through it and you did the hard work and a lot of other people. Don't have that kind of story and pass so. I just want to point that out and you are so strong for all of the things that you've done and gone through and when you have something that important on the line you still are undercharging because of that self confidence issue like that's like an impossible thing to kind of figure out and work through because it's like okay. Well i have to do these things. I have to make this much money. But what if. I don't get the work so when you did decide to up your prices and know that your time was more valuable. How did things change for you with that. Were you still able to like bring in the money that you needed to you. Did you find clients that were better suited for you and things like that. Yeah i i. Don't know wireless ever worried. I feel like now i'm not. I'm to the point. Where i know my worth and i know it on like every year i add more experience. I have more experience. I'm like almost decade in business. And i'm just like no. This is why. I've worked really hard for this. Is what i to serve and having that imposter syndrome or something. When you're young. You're just think i haven't been in the game as long as everybody else and this is what near charging and do. I really liked to serve. I don't know. By every couple of weddings. I would raise my prices as got more and more experience and it really did help to get clients that really value. They value my artistry. They value time. They value my personality in the fact that we clicked so well on their wedding day and they have a lot of fun in like in their branding or portrait sessions. Like we have a good time. And i take the time to really get to know them and the time to build that relationship with them and their families. I think people have really come to value that. And now i have clients that. Come to me. And they're like we don't care what your rates are like. We want to work with you. And that's really amazing. Feeling especially thinking of twenty two year old of hosting and just being like being here now and getting her. It's definitely helps everything in my life. That's kind of the dream. I feel like to charge more but not necessarily work less. But like you're more efficient your workloads not as much until it essentially is working less. I love that. And so when i noticed you starting to like set boundaries in your business in you talked about it more and i was like damn like. She's on to something like start doing this. Didn't you start no working on mondays or something like that like a while ago. Yes so depending on. If i have a wedding that weekend like have a wedding on sunday. I'll probably take a saturday in monday off. Or if i have a wedding on saturday i'll probably take like sunday and monday off. But i have a wedding on saturday and sunday which sometimes like gonna take that friday. Not monday off. Because i was working. Gosh i would be working from april to november seven days a week for like six years and you think that your winter you think just because it's slow and we're not shooting that means nothing and you don't realize that like in your first couple of years you're like oh it's maybe slow spray. I'm going to lake. Get the time to relax. And then like away. I need to be marketing. Any book should yeah. I should be working on my tax. Says i should be working on the business. Not necessarily in the business so i was young working forty hours a week like the normal times. I just wasn't arcane seventy hours. It took me a little like a few years to really understand that and no no. This is what it's been like for you at you need to set boundaries which means that. You need to be taking today's off week just like everybody else right. Why do you not to serve that. Like why can't you give that to yourself. I don't care health like what. I have my plate that week. I don't get those two days off. I'm not criticizing like do it. Well i'm going to be like coming interest like upset entire. It's going to affect me working with my clients skin and lungs. The way like positively is gonna make me really not value. The work that i do anymore and just be like a set that i'm doing an so that unlike i come in ten to five on the weekdays unless i have a meeting at five homes l. sex but i don't stay any later than six most stays. I leave at five. Ben i like will only take shoots on tuesdays and thursdays. I will make exceptions for wednesday's if that's really the only thing that clients can do. But usually i try to keep one day a week for like meetings and stuff like that. And i won't overbook my sessions midst. Mike take one to two sessions a week and then one wedding It does add up it a lot of work. Oh yeah see my editing on. I can only imagine. But i'm sure like when you first started. You probably have like four sessions a week and then a wedding and then maybe second shooting on the weekend and so like even though it is still a lot of work. You've definitely scaled back. Which is a really good. And i loved just a second ago. You said that like you deserve the rest like why are you giving that to yourself like talking to yourself in a mike. I feel like everybody needs to tell themselves that when i do get burnt out i can't function i can't do anything. Well i need to step away. I need to rest in have at time to recharge fan just like acknowledging that that long ago like i need to take care of myself. Why what. I do that when i would tell anybody else that they need to do that for themselves. So right now you're sitting in your studio which is beautiful gorgeous and we love it. How has that helped you rest. Does it help at all since like you're not working at home anymore. Yes exactly. I love that. You pointed that out because that was another boundary actually win. I had a really nice working. Laptop that i bought a few years ago. I would like to edit for. I would work from home. I would add it on my couch days from lake. It's been three days since. Showered working on. And i really have boundaries in what i was like kind of like you said like if you were sitting down. Watch netflix or anything. Like why can i add at the same time yes. I'm in the fact that i would bring home laptop every day. It gives you the guilt when you're resting your like actually multitasking on multiple things at once. I could be building my business and watching netflix. but finally finally got to the point. Where like my laptop was like okay. Well you have to be plugged into the wall word and it was a little like out of whack. It was starting to get slow. I got a desktop at my office. So i couldn't work from my laptop anymore. Like the west blessing like it was are basing. Okay i just bought a new laptop likes on wednesday. But i'm like happy to leave this book bag and not get it back out until ten. Am the next day and to really make sure that. I'm taking my slow mornings. That i really love you know. I have a pottery class on wednesday. Now really lovely so nice to get creative. It's just nice to leave all of the work here and no halt nonstop thinking about my businesses like entrepreneur. It's really hard to kind of like let that go but it is nice to just step away from everything in comeback. Feeling like okay. This is my work time. And when i'm at home that's my rest time. Yeah i love that. And so i want you to tell me about two things i wanna hear about your slow mornings and also pottery class so my slow mornings kind of go. It really just depends on like this season. That i'm in when i was big on posting on social media. I would like wake up in the morning and you know you're like i got up hospital like around seven thirty or eight every morning on whenever i don't even care anymore and side like wake up i would get my post ready. Yeah i would like usually. It's really weird. Like wake up. In like i have this. I just want to tell a story. i'm like. I'm right like three to five paragraph like saying something and so i would do that on social media and then i would go back to just are a. I'm gonna eat breakfast. I'm going to take on my treadmill. I'm gonna listen to a podcast on just kind of like no like okay. I don't need to be into the office until ten but like still waking up at like a decent hour so that i can take the time to really feel reenergized to go back into work in the office but now Maybe like don't you don't have to. But i really don't care about most okay. I'm not saying that's what you should deal. I don't i personally am onery. I don't know but hashtag song things right now. I feel like it. There is no more social media in my life I don't despise it anymore. Because i despised it for. I'm because it was. I had to wake up every morning at this time to post. Had to come up with something thoughtful to say hagins so that it matched my news feed in had this hatch tonight and now i'm like have to do any of that. I can post when i want to. I can say what i. I don't have to make every single thing. I do like a marketing decision. Is it like not smart like what a marketing person. Tell me like we singer time. Yeah maybe okay. Whatever that's fine but again like for my mental health to do. Yes yes so now. I'm just like all right. I'm gonna go have coffee. eat breakfast. I'm gonna take a walk with my boyfriend in his dog linda in the morning and snuggle and just play might nintendo switch if i went to. I don't wanna do whatever really doing in the morning is what i do so once. I started doing that. I've been like daydreaming taking a pottery class Months like. I wanted to do one last fall. They were all signed up. It was full. The classes were for rosewood arts center in kettering and they put a bass if you wanna do it like you gotta do sap. Luckily i can do it on wednesday mornings. Not everybody can do schedule. So i'm kind of lucky in that sense. Yes i go like. I have my coffee. Actually go to warehouse for because it's on the way like mom all sit there and enjoy it or like no sit in the parking lot if it's raining or something and then like just relax and then go in and just build something because Something that people don't tell you. When you started photography business becomes your job. Writing a lot of people are like. I must be so nice. Do what you love doing. And it's so nice to turn your hobby into a business once you do it for eight years for like no job as you. I love my clients to like very like like deep down in my soul too. I love telling their stories. Yes do i love sitting into office for like all the time. No no i don't do. I like on the weekends. Like no go. Yeah it's hard. It's difficult to say no to my family. It's difficult to say no to like my partner. Who is often the weekends. And i'm not or the day after my wedding's relax in. They're like ready to do something. I is smell like get out of bed. Like what are you talking about. My body does not work today like a wedding. Hangover is leo exponentially with wearing masks. Now like young. I can't find time to drink water. So the next the next day dehydrated like yes but the the cons of doing what you love it is it is. The grass is always greener anywhere anywhere. You go yeah buy yes. I do run wednesdays. I can get my creative juices out somewhere else. That like feels nice. And i can take all of the time that i've been obsessively watching Instagram reels from other potters watching different glazing techniques and stuff like that and like just try them out it doesn't have to be and what's nice is that you can have a hobby where it doesn't have to be perfect. You can behind that. You don't have to monetize that's right. That's right matt with that with photography. I feel like everybody starts because they love photography. They love to like play around with their camera. They love getting fun shots and then they think like oh i just have to work on the weekend but that is so far from what it actually is and you can't even be creative at your shoot sometimes or on wedding days because it's a formula like you know all the getting reading shots that you have to get where you need to be during the ceremony and it just becomes very like systematic because it has to be like you have to be efficient. You've done this a million times like you know your routine. You know the shots that you have to get but it's like all of the goodness that you once like loved about photography just kind of fades away. Because you're also doing all the editing like even if you start outsourcing things are still so many things that you have to do as a business owner when you don't have a humongous profit margin so i've been trying to find a hobby too. That is like just for fun. Even if i fucking suck at it. Like it's just something that i can do. And i enjoy and i don't have to make money from it and like it's it just seems like a foreign concept and on was the one who is like you don't have to monetize this and i was like. Oh okay that makes sense. But you know i just my first thought is like oh. I'm kind of good at this. How can i make money at it. Which i would suck pottery but like watching you do. It has been so cool and it looks so like therapeutic in calming like you said you can be good or bad at it like it doesn't matter as long as you enjoy it you know. I'm about being honest. There are times where. I'm late a type for the ring wing three. I love to be different and unique perfectionist. So i have to meal perfect. Ibm different and unique stupid. It's a bit. don't get me wrong. I've done a lot of like self discovery over the years. And i love myself and i know that. I'm like a freaking weirdo. And it's great but it is a pain sometimes and saul be like in these classes. And i think there is seven or eight of us right now and Some of these the students have been in there for years. How derelict creating music amazing Basis in amazing volts in. You're just like what like this is my first time. String it so it's like it's uk. You'll get and i'm just over here like i haven't gotten it yet. Why isn't it perfect. like that. and i'm like really hard on myself Not just i know this is too. I am but like when i go in on studio time when there's nobody around and i can just sit and play and i don't is of people and like other people it is like it is very relaxing just having doing different itching for glazes i can just like shut my mind off and like and like it's so therapeutic to just have the same emotion like over and just like why your mind go and has been it has been really nice. I really wanna do it the next class. I haven't looked at it recently. It probably is already filled up. But it's on thursdays of the summer but the summers are really hot in the building Obviously we're still everybody's still wearing masks inside you get really sweaty magnet just kind of like maybe i'll come back in the fall. Is it worth it right. Maybe this is a fact to maybe this is like a coup cool bunks. You can't have the east camp defense on with kobe. And all of that. Yeah which is great but like can be uncomfortable. Like if you're trying to be creative and you're sweating or you're trying to relax and you're just like whoa right right like seriously though but like i just love that you've taken this on and i'm still looking for what my next little hobbies going to be but i don't know i just i feel like that's a good way to kind of like recharging like you said. Just show your mind off. Like that's what i would love to do every once in a while just like have nothing going on here because like you said as business owners were always thinking like how a conversation might into instagram post. Like i just can't shut it off. You know what i mean. And i really try to but i struggle with that and so another thing i wanna talk about with. You is your sabbaticals. I wanna talk about how and why you started doing these until i feel like whether you own a business or not. This is still a practice that people could do like in all kinds of different areas in life. Just kind of taking a step back. Okay so i learned about sabbaticals probably in my second or third year in business. That was when i was. I like getting into listening to other entrepreneurs on whether that's like podcasts. Or youtube videos or anything like that. I just wasn't aware that there were other people like arm. And i started listening to the shaun west podcast. He's like a and he would talk a lot about what was called his seventh week sabbatical where he would work for six weeks and then take off the seventh week and then he started trying like a seven month sabbatical where he would and then team and that he took it even even a step further ended a seven year so like he worked for six years to a whole year off. Wow right which is like why odin goals yeah sounds amazing and not. Everybody can financially do that right like it definitely didn't make sense for me financially like being on my own being like the one covering all my bills like that right so i think it was around my seventh year. I was laying keno. I'm gonna at least try to take a month off. And i'm going to figure out how to do it earlier. That year i was like doing it. I had set in my head like in january. I was like taking december off. I normally take a one two week sabbatical vacation That's like really the only time. I could take off because i was busy. He literally all year besides went. Yeah it didn't make sense to like go anywhere during busy season when i had a bottom line to silent go usually during my birthday week i would go to. The jets are my favorite place to be more like. Are you old going there every year. And it's just it really doesn't. It's my favorite dr driving through their javier with the windows down in like neil young on the radio just like singing all of my favorite song. Because i'm a classic rock free but just like singing although like the folk music in the desert and i would usually take. The trip are myself The past couple of years. I've taken whoever. I was seeing at the time. The conversation conversation about pets sometime. It's always a wedding of concerns. I would always drive out. There knows just like a meditative experience on my own at different like campgrounds and i would find different hip camps to just stay out literally like in the wilderness with in that it's like the most ultimate nice little then to relieve your yourself outs reflect on a year. Take a moment to just breathe enrolling. Not do anything. So i feel like go on vacations in the like go go go and i just wanted to like not really. Of course i'm type a. And i'm like okay. I need to go from this. Hyp hyp to this. One brian to go from this hip camp to like take a shower on wednesday at the airbase and i did have a plan but like i other than that was like. Okay what am i going to get. What am i going to do. All i know is like here at like four. Pm that's so. I've been doing that for the last four or five years by a couple years ago. I was like. I'm going to just take off the whole month. I'm gonna like trip. And i just took the year to really get my systems in place in figure it out like unwise message like co next year and keep you posted on social media. Lake named we out of the office for the full month. And it was stressful. Coming up to it. it really was. I was really nervous that it wasn't going to happen. I was nervous. That i was going to let myself down by continuing to work was nervous that i was going to let the guilt. Slake hold me back from doing a. Even though i know i deserved. It have been working like so much in so long For like years. And it's really. I just knew that i deserved after not taking. You know what most people take two to four weeks of vacation a year. I was taking one on average a week maybe a week or so like i just knew that i i was like this is a long time coming. You deserve this and it was not long enough because let me just tell you. If you're going to do a sabbatical maybe don't do it. In december because it's like holiday month by take your mic running from one thing to the next anyway. During the holidays true it was. It wasn't long as at but it was still great and now doing in absolutely well. And i love hearing about your trips in like because you got your hand tattoos one of the times right when you're down there i hadn't planned it. I found her business card in one of the shops and yucca valley for the longest time. I'm like i love tattoos of been in touch culture for like six. Eighteen interests like body modification and stuff. Like that and i had been daydreaming about stick and poke tattoos so i had been mulling a lot of artists out of the west. That's how it got like bigger. I guess in the instagram pinterest. To whatever and of course a type for lake Things before everybody else. But i worked right again. And things like ster- right. It's fine like did that. Are i went and found her card. And this is a sign yet. Looking person is for a long time. And scream as sure and i was like. Hey i'm here for the next couple of days. I do come in and i came in and like i was like i know. I want finger tattoos at exactly what want like. I like to come up with something that makes sense. We did it together. And i got it right on the spot and i don't know i'm very Spontaneously don't necessarily when it comes to tech us. I i don't regret anything in most people are like. Oh what if. I regretted it. And i'm kinda like it'll change meetings throughout my life like really careless do it. And then the next year. I got like touch from her and i got i guess i got this one from her to. I didn't know that that's cool. Yeah so i was going to get some more when i was there but we had rented an airbnb with hot tub. And i don't you. Yeah no hot tub over to for sure. Yeah oh my gosh. Yeah we we were. It was like a bushy. I was like. I'm not gonna spend money to get to the elderly or not be able to get and there was right rumors. Something i yeah. It was nuts we felt. it's amazing. Yeah so like when you go on these trips. What does a day look like. You said that you just go and do whatever tell me a little bit more about and definitely more like a self reflector so good at polling different aspects of my life are like different experiences and breaking them down which is a good thing right when you're up at like four in the morning like down your like an interaction from eight years ago or something right really taking all of my experiences and figuring out how i can better myself from that experience. How can i frame it or like a hardship. That i'm going through like how can i frame as a challenge on. It's just something that. I've practiced doing over the last. I'd like to save thirty years but it probably like Twenty or something. When i became self aware. I like to go and take moments to literally. Just be upset like let go of everything kind of like a meditative state right so like if you take time to meditate and you're kind of just stare in your brain and like you're letting your thoughts pass through and you're not trying to focus on anything and just like i dunno sitting with all of the chatter in your head. That's the moments that. I live for as the moments from having these spiritual awakening safai contriving in the desert with like the sun perfectly like hitting the mountains with like the perfect song. And you're just like riding on live like this is the best thing ever. I'm starting to make people and that's like meditative for me. So i'm like always chasing that moment of kind of being away but then also using the nights 'cause i go in the winter so the so the sun sets sight like five. Pm five thirty pm six pm. Sometimes so if i'm not outside with like a fire i'm Stuck inside the van sometimes in the middle of the desert literally in like spots. There's like wildlife and stuff. I'll just be stuck in my van. Especially the times that i went by myself. It was just like i'm like self reflect or own time to read books listening to music. I really think music is kind of like my chill time. And we've talked about before before i wanted to be an artist yet i writer joe music. Esmar sound therapy just taking time to chill out and all of that. That's what i do and like you. I listened to a lot of podcasts. And i feel like sometimes it's just information overload. Sometimes i just have to stop. And so that i got to that point today where i just had to put on like one of my favorite playlist in it like immediately put me in a better mood because it just it's so different And so like. What do you do at home to try to like. Bring that feeling here like that. Meditative state or that escaped. What i'm at home i guess. Kinda like for instance To ish days ago. Like when. I'm at my office. And i'm i've been editing for like three hours or in my eyes are like i can't even though you know i love i love you clients i do. It's just hard to stare at a screen for sell up all of that. It's hard you know. it's just like get up and i'll check the soil moisture of all my plants and that's like super meditative for me. I'm like checking out their new growth. I'm like connecting with like all of the nature that i have growing like beautiful check in on like checking on amazon like water have a yoga mat. My office when. I like lay down for ten minutes the other day where i just like literally close my eyes for five minutes and then stretched for like the rest of the time literally after ten minutes. I was like ready to get back to work just like instead of sitting on desk for like an hour trying to get back into that head space literally. Taking ten minutes to be super intentional like to be intentional about the time in how you use it and like say i'm gonna take this to the ten minutes to rest my brain and then i'm gonna go back because you can drive yourself crazy for like thirty minutes to an hour trying to get back into that head space but i all i go on a walk. My office downtown. Salt lake walk down to the river and back. If i really need to get energized my boyfriend told me that. I've been spending an average of two hours a day. Plink tam antenna switch so like after work. A mike okay. Do i wanna play nintendo switch or like do i want to go on like a five mile walk or do i wanna just like the little moments of taking intentional time each day and having those like self care moments with myself is really gets me back in the office the next day and gets me going to like taking freddie evenings to dislike detox my brain from the week allow watch american horror story or whatever. I'm binging at the moment and just like charging like my mental physical and like actual camera battery instinct like making sure everything's charged for the next day. It's a good way for me to kind of my habits of making sure that i that i am good to go the next day. A lot of people will ask me to go on fridays in. I do sometimes i will. It really just depends. But i am very good at saying no. I'm like no no. I know that if i go out it's going to affect me tomorrow. I respect my clients enough to know that. I want to give them my best. And that means sme- rusting and then same with you know resting after the wedding. I i respect the people that i work with enough to know that i need to rest to give them my best to the next week. Don't get me wrong. I do get in my head about it. Sometimes i get in my head like it does feel a little guilty. I still get those things of guilt when i relaxed. I still have to fight through. And i still get those like do people think that i like ab not working or like people like if i'm posting more of my resting moments than i am of my working moments like that just like not working which is one hundred percent true and just like really focused. When i am working and honestly i don't think people notice like i know i have always been extremely critical of my feet and what i post and how often people are like be consistent. You don't care if people. I follow show up every day and that was something that came up with alex on our instagram live to is just that like hustle culture and just like feeling like we had to have it all right now and not resting and just like you for me. I feel like it's been years of this. Like deconstructing that mindset in switching in it. It's hard and i'll be honest like with being a new mom. I'm really struggling like making that time for self care. When i felt like i was finally really frigging good at it and then like not now. Mom and then the pandemic Yes just a couple of the things that you mentioned on mike. I could start doing that. Like harper's like get a nerve like i'll just lay down and like take some deep breaths and then she liked contel over me and she thinks it's the best thing but it's like a good moment for me to just like close my eyes in like clear my mind and just like relax for a second because i feel like we just run ourselves ragged so just being more intentional everyday trying to like do a couple of those little things to just recharge a little bit throughout the week. That you're not as ambi- yeah. I think we've had this conversation literally. I think for years just being like talking about how unhappy it like. Social media had made us and how like we felt like the need to be part of the grind in the grind culture like the hustle culture in like feeling all the all of the things that we had to do all of the hats that we wear as entrepreneurs like it is difficult in. It's like you have all of abuse people in the industry that you kind of look up to in they're telling you all of this really toxic click information about always be positive always like get about four in the morning. Do this do that. You need to make sure you're always looking at the bright side and there's just so much that they tell you to do you start to question yourself when really in reality coach. I loved the moment when you in outs for talking. Podcast with your reading when you both were talking about like you need to find what works for you and really go with that matt listening. Anybody else i mean. Shoot what works for me. It's not necessarily gonna work for everybody else. Like meme finding like what truly makes them happy and like what makes them feel fulfilled or like what makes you feel fulfilled. That's where it's at whether it's you taking a break in laying on the ground or going like you know going on a walk around the block or i don't know damn dancing around your kitchen. That just like bill. Your cut back up and i loved the post that you one of your for your like if you're not feeling it today. Sandbox couch like something like you especially being a creative entrepreneur. Like you have this. If we're in the content creation culture where you have to create create create create like to feel relevant. But that's just not sustainable. The best works of art were made after. I dunno art break like they went like a long time to like young something. Yes yes those are the best things in those time. We can't be constantly like keeping all of ourselves every day to everybody. And i'm just really hoping after this last year people are like man. I really enjoyed doing less to be fair. Everybody did some people had to make ends meet. Yeah i had to work harder in the beginning to like. Make sure that my company like stay afloat. It was really difficult for me. And the work life balance that i had worked so hard to create essentially went away overnight as soon as up and because i was like hiding so hard to keep discussing And so i don't know. I just hope that we don't go back to normal. We find a way to change and we find a way like to know that rest so it's part of the process. It's so important to intentionally take that time so that you're not wasting more time later feeling for out something that was hard for me to like come to terms with was not being a morning person because so many people talk about getting up at four and five. Am and like that did not work for me so like you. I have kind of a slow morning. Where i just kind of snuggle with harper and we sit and watch tv or play or whatever and then like once. She takes a nap like then. I can kind of get going for the day. And sometimes i get down myself and mike. You could have gotten so much done if you just got up before her but like. I'm just trying to let that go and to be like. That's not what feels good for me and that's not what works so i think just like giving your self permission to do that. Then you can be like. Oh this is actually really nice is kind of addicting. All iranian doesn't know. That's exactly how i feel like once. I got over the anti hustle. Life i was laying him when really about this silly about like you know taking time to like refill. My cup now. I'm just like okay. So i'm going to sketch this. Relax relax day. I'm gonna make sure adams already going to schedule out like my week. Saw from gonna. I don't know i'm the same. I'm all about it now. Yeah and with creating stuff. I've decided for me. Like if i'm gonna keep posting on instagram. It has to be fun like it was also very hard for me to understand or like took a long time for me to realize some of these people who were preaching the hustle culture. You know had either a lot of money already or they grew so much that they could hire a full time nanny or a chef or like. I just feel like a lot of times. I was like man. Why am i not grinding. As hard as they are me being able to change my mindset has been huge to just be like do. I even want that. I was chasing like do i want their life. Probably not what. Do i actually want that to look like and i do want it to be restful and mindful and intentional and all of these things that i can't do while running around like a crazy person trying to get all the jobs and do all the things that make all the money. It's like different seasons of life right. Yes when i was younger. I had more energy. I knew that like. I didn't have a significant other. I didn't have a family. I didn't have really. The only person that i had to focus on was myself and my bills and i was like you know what i'm going to work every weekend. Is i wanna make money to build my business in our needs. Make money to pay my bills. And i have the time to do that now and i wanted to get then so that in this time of my life. I could relax and i will say that it did. Give me a lot of burnout. And i don't necessarily suggest that's not me suggesting people to do that but that was a season in my life where i did what i needed to do to make ends meet and now that i'm kind of past that i'm getting older like my knees are starting to hurt my back surgery. Her like thirty and like everything is like breaking. You're like what is like. I'm in a different season. I want to settle down. I wanna have a family. I want to spend more time with my parents and my friends and colleagues. I mean we all know especially after twenty twenty just like the importance of your circle importance of the people that mean most to you and i just my priorities are changing and i just want to give more time to those people who give so much to me and that means like setting boundaries in that means like being intentional with your time and i'm still in arm still slowly getting there. I do like i said most of my twenty twenty kind of broke my work life balance that i'd worked so hard to make while i was fighting for my business to stay low last year and then like a lot of weddings push to this year. Which means that. I had to take the same amount that i normally do. Plus move the other like the twenty twenty weddings to twenty twenty-nine to make sure that i was still breaking even and you know not using a bunch of money two years in a row so i will say i am. I am photographing a lot of weddings this year. Probably more than. I'd like to. Because i do have such a high priority for us but there again seasons like this when i have to do this year and then i can go back to next year and i know that i do because i've done it before and i know lake. I'm just taking extra steps like taking pottery classes on wednesday Making sure that my mental health is in check. Gosh talking to a doctor about that. Getting on medication has been zone home. I was so stressed about everything before. And i feel like i have more work like a higher workload right now and i'm just yeah. I feel fine now just like oh my gosh. I was neuro diverse. Zoll time something like level me out. I'm looking forward to the next season in my life where. I am prioritizing breast even more than achievement. It's kind of like. How do you measure success right and kinda like how we were talking about before us recording. We were talking about by stadium in capricorn and it's all about achievement and lights. I want to do big things. And i'm really about working hard in making my dreams come true end. That's kind of where. I see my success. But i've as i get older i'm working on seeing success in a different light knots success in relationships in success with family and just being you know happy with your overall life and being healthy and having more moments of joy moments exuberance overwhelm bright still goals. I still have big. Yes i mean. Big inactive have high goals for my future. I just know that it's okay if it takes me twenty years to get there. Yes that's the difference between like who. We are now who we were like five six years ago as we wanna have achievement and all of those different areas of our life to be a good well rounded healthy person versus the highest achievements in just our career. And it's like once you start taking care of those other areas. The career part will still come. I got twenty twenty five years before. I you need to make it where i really wanna make it in like time. I have so much life to live so many experiences to have an. It's not just about grinding every day to make it happen. I don't need for it to happen at thirty five. I don't need for to happen. Ah forty I want like when i die my way. Make right to try to like. I want like when i'm on my deathbed to be proud like the moments that i've had with my friends and my family and not be like slaved my life. Yeah to like get to this like weird level of achievement in my head. I like nobody has ever judged me. Oh yeah and i think that's the perfectionist in the overachiever. And all of that. Where like we just zero in on that. Sometimes yes it'd be nice to be successful. Yes it'd be nice to be wealthy. Like i have those goals and like. I hope that that happens but at the end of the day i want to know that i chose to like snuggle in bed with my baby a little bit longer when i had the chance you know versus getting up and getting to work and then like putting our high keep doing work or something like that and of course. It's a balance. Sometimes the dais look different. But that's the shit you're gonna remember. Is those intentional moments with the people that mean the most to you and that is what's important so i'm so glad that you said that. Yeah oh my gosh. Sorry you like all the being a mom is like the hardest thing i've ever done and i've talked about a lot of the hard stuff on social media and stuff but like it was such a wakeup call to just be like nothing else matters like an. I wish it didn't take that for me. To realize that if that makes sense because like i was just as worthy of having rest and growing slow and doing all the things that i wanted before i was a mom to anybody who is not a mom like you still deserve all those things in the snuggle in bed with your babies or whatever the hell that you want to do but like i'm i'm just so thankful and glad that i had that wakeup call because i feel like everything in my life has changed since then and then like you know being more intentional with my french trying to make time to have conversations at coffee and lunch or whatever that looks like those were things that i took for granted and i just i feel like i just wanna tell everybody else like slow down. It's okay like we can do these things slowly and like more intentionally more mindfully like all of those things. Because i just feel like we do all deserve that when you start your business. You're excited about all of the places that you can go. You're excited about every single. Step that you know you're gonna reach but when you're crying every day and you get so burnt out to the point like kinda like you were saying like if you get sober out to the point that you wanna quit it. Was that run all the extra time and effort worth it in the end was like winning could have been easily spread over ten to fifteen years and you would have still gotten there but you would have enjoyed the process a little bit more. Yes that's kind of where i'm like going into a decade of doing this and i've loved falling following you throughout the years into seeing you like knowing that it is okay to stop when you like need to knowing that it's okay to you pivot knowing that it's okay to do something else and try something else like being that Is so empowering to share with other women and knowing that like if you quit your business like it is going to be okay. You are not defined biocide that in. Most people like change professions multiple times throughout their lives. Yes yes which i told you. That's my curse of being a seven is the like shiny objects syndrome and like abandoning ship. As soon as it doesn't seem like it's going well but like again. I know that about myself it's fine. I'm acknowledging it. But like i really have struggled in the past which i think we've talked about. I'm sure with like closing my business. Like that was really really really hard for me to do. And i think it was an ego thing but also like an identity thing because i was like this has been such a big part of my life for so long and i don't know what's next in what was so terrifying for me but i'm glad that i took like two or three year break before i started the podcast and i was in that time. Like really trying to navigate and figure out what the hell i want to do but which this isn't really related. But i'm thinking when you're eighteen and trying to go to college like it's hard enough to try to figure out what you wanna do for rest of your life and there. I was at like twenty six or however world. I was at the time where i was like. I've lived a lifetime as a business owner and photographer. And like what's next but yeah. I felt like such a failure. I thought you were such about us. I know like you didn't feel that way. But i was just like hell. Yeah you do. It like feels right for you. May i just thought that was so empowering so like you were weaver over here like okay girl like you do what you like to break out ages like made me realize like if i decide to change professions. We'll all be fine. It's not the world for this. Amazing quote from rene brownless. She said nothing is wasted. And i just thought that was so powerful like moment. Like even if you were hustling before it's a learning moment where you're like okay this hard. This was a rough part of my life but it can change every spirit experience you have. It can be a learning moment for you and not to say that in a way that's like toxic positively but just knowing that like the harder moments to make you stronger a do make you sink a little bit more about how you can make your life better in future yes chelsea. Thank you so much for like being here today. Talking to me being my low business. Bff like over the years you are so encouraging and validating and you are a bad ass like i love the way that you live your life and run your business in like prioritize things that are important and i know it's been a journey so let people know how they can connect with you so you can connect with me on an instagram or on my website by instagram handle as actual photo website is www dot chelsea dash dot com. To be honest. I post like i said earlier i post very seldomly so Or on stories more than you'll see anybody else so feel free to like the me. I dunno. we have a chat sometime. I get back to you a couple of days later because you know boundaries. I'd love to talk with you guys. I don't know if you're out what works best in your life. What i'd like to be your hype girl to for sure. Go for higher. I love it. Thank you so much for being here chelsea. thanks for having me. I don't know about you. But i am ready to take a week or a month or a year off of work after this conversation chelsea made so many great points about why we need to rest and why it's so important. Take your days off take that. Pto take your sick. We need them. We need to refuel. We need to recharge and all the other areas in our life lack when we're not taking care of ourselves so this is your reminder to take care of yourself take that vacation make time to rest. You deserve it you are worthy of it in don't deprive yourself of that. I have always admired and loved. How chelsea is able to incorporate rests into her life and her business and just setting fierce boundaries that she's not willing to break so. I know i'm definitely going to be taking a look at my boundaries and seeing what i can tweak what i can be a little more strict with and seeing what else i can do throughout the day to make sure. I'm giving myself that time to recharge love to continue this conversation on instagram. Please reach out to chelsea and i. We would love to talk more about rest. Because i feel like this is not something people talk about. We'd love to talk about being busy and hustling and grinding and getting all the things done. I wanna talk to the person who's taking a nap in the middle of the day and give them a high five. Because i wish i could be doing now honestly and i'm hoping to make more time for restful moments like that in my life okay. 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Promenade Merchants: Episode 29: Its LeVar Burtons To Lose

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Promenade Merchants: Episode 29: Its LeVar Burtons To Lose

"What's up cuties. This is the promenade. Merchants podcast star trek podcast out on the frontier. So sit down and grab a rock to gino. David majors and heather curvy talk all things star trek old new and what's to the promenade. Virgins are open for business. Greetings and citations. Everybody welcome to the promenade merchants. Podcast your favorite star trek podcast favorite completely independent star trek podcast. It's just me david majors. And the occasional recording issues and the incredibly infinitely patient. heather kirby. What's up heather see. I'm just patient. Because i don't have to deal with the technology that i make you deal with. It makes me the patient this is. This was my grand idea so it falls on me when we have recording issues like we did with the last episode. So we're doing it again but we're back we're here I'm back from my shoreleave. Heather is here and we're good to go and we're going to talk about some star trek stuff. Everybody there's been a lot of star trek stuff in the last year or so since we started this podcast so admittedly right now. With shows in production ran a bit of a lull as far as star trek goes. But we know there's more coming soon. Between time in the meantime we have things like old business where we talk about everything sort of from the original series up to including the kelvin universe. And that's what we're going to jump into now we're gonna start with the old business Every once in a while my see this all across the trek community all over the place. There's this idea of characters that are supposedly hated it or get a lot of flack And i've always found that there are certain characters who get reactions like that that i've never totally understood so i'm gonna throw this one out to you. Heather and i would love to hear from all of you out there. Send us a tweet at prom. Tripod dot com. What's let's have a conversationalist have a little dialogue you know. Let's have a little bit of the the back and forth a little bit about some star trek. Everybody at crom track pot on twitter. Send us an e mail. Prominent shrek pod at gmail.com Have there i'll ask you. i'll put it out there. Is there a star trek character out there. In the franchise that you see gets a lot of hate and dislike and scorn and consternation that you kind of feel like maybe it's kind of a raw deal you don't understand where the hey comes from you know i i mean there's definitely some characters that automatically go to the top of my mind when it comes to this subject but i wanted to talk about someone who's a little bit more of a deeper cut and that is vetik barral from deep space nine. I don't understand why people hate him so much. I could not with you more on vetik barral. I always really liked him. I always felt like he was a good counter-balancing point to cure norris on ds nine. I felt like he played the role of someone. Being spiritual bajarin isn't bad Someone that sob. Benjamin sisko was the mysterious someone to respect be friendly and cordial with as opposed to trying to usurp them or move a captain. Sisko i felt like barral was a useful good character to have around but i think the thing that i saw a lot of people. Heather's that barral was quote boring unquote in. I don't know i never saw it that way. How about you yeah. I definitely don't consider him boring. I think he definitely has more of a quiet presence to him. When you you look at the other especially the other vetted characters and the juror religious characters. they're kind of like over the top and have very distinct presence and rial has a very calming and quiet presence about him and the people who liked to hate on him. Call that boring. But i just kind of see it as like a you know a a more. When it came to barisal i loved how you described him. As calm i always kind of used the word stoic with barral and i think that a lot of his character was very grounded and calm because in i'm saying this is not necessarily the most religious person or the the most fateful person but i think that he was someone that was very grounded with his spirituality. He in a lot of ways was a monk. In in a lot of ways he he worked in the ministry protected one of the orbs he. He was very faithful to the pa- jordan religion and he was very grounded. It he was not someone that tried to seek power or influence with the government or anything like that he was just kind of one man walking very calm very spiritual path. I would almost say. He was to a degree enlightened Through his his spirituality and he always had kind of a calmness to him that none of the other vettix really had and to go back to what i said about him in a race. I think that they were a great yin yang sherry because especially in early seasons. And reese was still very much. Fresh from patients still very hostile very mistrusting and still kind of a bajarin fighting freedom fighter whereas baril in many ways was a calming spiritual influence that helped her follow. Her path helped her understand the will of prophets in i think they balanced each other out really well and i was really disappointed when he was written out. Yes he i you very much. Put it into words. What i was trying to find their but i really think it. It's kind of interesting how they handled the the vettix the the different vettix that you see on the because i mean they're all the same religion but they kind of represent different religions that we know of and to me like someone like that. It win is more a representation of like the catholic church. And then you have someone like vetik barisal who's is almost more of a representation of buddhism. So they're two very different things but they were put in the same structure and so i think that's when kind of people look at the characters and they're like oh well she she's over the top and he's not so he's boring but if you look at it at a different way you can understand the character better and we can officially say here the providence merchants. Podcast barral is not boring and barral. Did nothing wrong. Yes yes. And i hated that. They wrote him out too. I not too. He really brought something to at least his relationship with kierra and his relationship with with cisco and some of the other characters on the nine and i thought it was a shame to right amount and kill them off. In that way. I completely agree. There is another character. That i think that i don't know if you'll agree with me on this one and no everybody. It is not nearly six. I have already spoken my piece on him. Malcolm read from enterprise For some reason. I remember especially very early on in enterprise. I run malcolm reed. Lieutenant malcolm read a armory officer of the neck so one. He seemed to be the most disliked character on enterprise. By far people liked archer. People loved to paul I think everyone kind of eventually came around on trip tucker and flocks but consistently for the longest time people really disliked malcolm read and i never fully understood why I always thought is it. Because he's a little kind of up tight and british. I don't know Is it because of the whole section thirty. One thing. I i don't know i always thought he got along really well with with trip. They were kind of a buddy cop dynamic in a way where they would occasionally get on some wacky adventures. And i thought they were really good together. And i thought read on the bridge did everything you could ask them to do in star trek a good weapons officer a good tactical officer. He did all of those things. Well i ve really never got. Hey people had from malcolm breed. I mean you know. He is the inventor of the right alert which started out as the read alert. But yeah i. It's another one. I don't completely understand the hate there A was definitely initially at least in some of the early episodes written is very uptight at very british and ironically. I know some british people who weren't convinced that dominic keating was actually british because they thought his accent was horrible. You guys need to listen to yourself sometimes so Yeah i just. I think one of the things that reads suffers from probably slightly more than a character like Hoshi hoshi sato travis. Mayweather is the fact that they tried to give him some story lines. But you just didn't get enough time with the character to get to know him as well as The big three the main characters on enterprise archer trip and poll so as much as they tried to write him in here and there. They didn't really give fans enough time to understand and get to know the character in a way that they would appreciate him better and so that's what he really suffers from in my opinion and it's really a shame because there was some stuff there let you think about the fact that here is a regular character on star trek shows that was secretly working for section thirty one like they did some things with that but if enterprise got a few more seasons they could have done so much more with that in. That's just so cool And going back to his friendship. With trip tucker. That was something they really could have expanded upon. I think and he was one of those characters that they seemed to have put in a little bit more effort into a even through the series beyond the big three whereas unlike hoshi and travis. They really didn't do much with them until the last season they seem to put in at least a little bit of effort with malcolm breed and probably just wasn't enough which is a shame because i think he he was actually pretty cool. I always kind of liked him. Yeah and you know. One of the things i always realize from people who are fans of the character is that one of the things. They always connect his character to is his relationship with major hayes which i mean that only lasted a season not even an entire season because major hades gets killed off but just having him have a back and forth and long lasting go round and storyline with another character on. The ship made people connect to the character more. I mean think about if they would have done that on a regular basis for the character than they would have definitely liked more. I think were were pretty much on the same page See everybody we did that. And i won't talk about. neil. Ix will move on. We'll move into the new business that everyone has already probably heard Lavar burton using have heard of him from reading rainbow and roots. And a couple of other things. I don't know Is going to get his chance If unless you've been living under a rock and you're just not on the internet very much. There has been a strong campaign for lavar burton to be the official host of jeopardy to replace the late. Great alex trebek's and amongst others He will be getting a week long audition To host jeopardy this fan campaign for lavar burton included a petition on change dot org of over two hundred thousand signatures. So this was coming from all over the place Star trek fans reading rainbow fans. Just everyone that has been touched and influenced by lavar burton's work There really hasn't been anyone else quite like this. As far as the idea of replacing alex trebek's the host of I think in a lot of ways if you look at the internet it really is his to lose and it's going to happen. July twenty sixth through the thirtieth So heather Here on the podcast. Before you and i have talked about what happens sometimes when the internet gets very loud and makes demands and businesses kind of acquiesced to those demands We saw that with star trek strange new worlds. And now we're seeing that with lavar burton What do you think about levar burton's chances to be on jeopardy. I off as i have. Obviously i want to keep the same position that i have with strange worlds and i don't believe in thin petitions and fans banning together to get businesses to acquiesce to their will. That being said. I'm really happy that this worked out for lavar and i really glad that he's getting a chance to show his skills and guest host because this is something that like. It didn't just come out of the blue. It's something that he actually tweeted on twitter. Like back in twenty seventeen or something so at least like four years ago stating that when alex trebek's retired his dream job was to get to host jeopardy and so it's something that he's wanted for a long time. It's something that the fans got behind and not even just the fans. I mean we were talking. That petition was shared by other members of hollywood like in professionals getting behind this this petition to give him a chance to guest host on the show. So that's saying a lot about lavarra's character and how he is really not just revered by the fans but also revered by his peers. I'm so glad he's getting the chance and it definitely is his to lose. I think because when they announced when. Jeffrey tweeted the deputy Site on twitter tweeted about their last set of guest host for this season and they listed all their names and then they had lavar at the bottom with an exclamation point next to it. Nobody else had an exclamation point. I mean come on. It's just a little signs there that are saying. Hey it really is his job to lose. And i hope you succeed. I do definitely although this may or may not impede on him in a future season. Star trek ricard. So we'll just have to see and leave that open i. He stated like. I mentioned in the weekly track episode. I did last week. He stated unequivocally that he was not going to be in season two but he definitely hinted around the idea of him being in season three but only if he gets the job would it really impact him. Because i mean the card films in. La jeopardy films in la so we make it work. He could probably make it work. Yeah he was gonna show up on the card. I think if he he gets the job he could definitely make it work and if he does get the job and somehow can't make it work and showing up in the card. The fans would be okay with that because they'll just be happy that he's hosting jeopardy and we wish him the best of luck with everything and even if there's someone with him reading an introducing books to the youths we we hope for that too because don't ever forget reading rainbow people never forget reading rainbow moving onto another alumni of the next generation. Michael dorn He put out a tweet that he was called back into action for starfleet on april nineteenth and then it turned out to be ad and it was an ad for the new star trek legends game on apple arcade Just reading from the bio of the game engage in an epic story. Line for control of the mysterious nexus and the fate of the universe as players step into the role of their favorite star trek. Here's and villains in the hit. Franchises official team based rpg. So it looks as though from this mission that warf in other star trek characters will be stuck inside of the nexus shoutout to all of the star trek generations fans. And it's you're going to get to play As commander of the us artemis which warf was calling from. And i guess go on away missions and have some fun and apple arcade It looks like right now. It's only on apple arcade. Hopefully it will go out to other platforms Either i remember personally seeing this. And i saw the hashtag add on this tweet and i believe i was talking with alex perry at the time host of weekly track where we both kind of agreed years probably for a game. It's probably not anything to monumental. And yet it ended up being a game and it ended up being a mobile game on apple arcade Not exactly in shattering announcement but hey people are. Some people are going to enjoy it right. I definitely think michael dorn his troll level with that sweet because it had people getting excited and then when they realize it was for a game where they were just kind of like. Oh okay but the game does look to be really cool. I not a fan of the fact that it's only released on apple arcade because even as someone who has an iphone. You still have to pay an extra five bucks a month to subscribe to apple arcade and that's the only way you can get access to the game. So that's kinda sucks but anything new any new products that they're putting out is always something good for the franchise No matter the type or how it setup so it's always something good i always wanted to See because that just means we'll get more more new stuff after that and anybody out there if you're playing star trek legends on apple arcade. Please let us know app trek pot on twitter or send us an email I'm genuinely curious if it's enjoyable if it's fun if it does come to android devices My at least give it a download and give it a look I'm curious so if you're out there playing star trek legends. Oh let us know. Lead the ultimate away team in. Tell us tell us how it goes. let's move into upcoming business because we got some news from the main man. Alex kirkman a couple of weeks ago. saying that the line of from trek movie dot com. The line between the movies and television is gone in star trek. I think that because of paramount plus in the viacom cbs. Monday and all of this business. Things are starting to come together. Regarding the star trek franchise kirkman says. I think vertical alignment has made it so that it's impossible not to accept the reality that the line between movies and television is gone. It doesn't mean that you can't have a feature that is separate television but if they aren't interconnected in some way then you're basically running to universes parallel as opposed to interconnected and i think those matches could potentially cancel each other out so heather When i read this story. And the i heard or read kirkman say the line between movies and tv are gone. I remembered that there is going to be a star trek film made and we have a release date for it. And i remembered that the person writing the star trek movie Is someone that worked star trek discovery and it made me think. Oh there's a good chance. We're getting a star trek discovery movie. I think we might be getting a discovery movie. Heather that's what this makes me think. Well you know my first thought at the article was hey alex. Kertzman still isn't fired. Maya second thought is that. I think the kelvin universes finish. Because i really think that's what he was implying there that they were not gonna continue with kelvin universe movies because then you would have a separate movie universe as compared to the stories that they're doing on tv So that goes along with my suspicion Especially knowing what we know about the next star trek movie and who it's being written by that. I don't wanna sit there and call it a star trek discovery movie because i think kertzman is really working to combine the star trek universe as a whole even though we have multiple different shows. But i do think that the movie is going to be set in the television universe as we know it now and it will somehow connect back to one of the shows that is currently on paramount plus whether it be star trek discovery whether it be star trek the card whether it be strange new worlds because right now all three of them are set in different. Time frames the star. Trek universe So i definitely think that the movie that they're planning will connect back to the tv shows but it might not be in a direct way Because lake the movies that they did before the tng movies and the t. o. s. movies there wasn't really a line in between them either. They were still part of the same universe and they still made it known that they were in the same universe even if it was just them finding a way to pull warf off the defiant so he could be on the enterprise for that movie it still let you know that it was in the same universe as the television shows that were going on at the timeframe especially okay. So heather heather. How would we get for this movie. How would we get the discovery crew or at least some of them back to the time that they came from or maybe to run into the crew. Strange new worlds. How do you do it well. That's that's the thing it all depends on what timeframe it set in a could be set in the time frame just before discovery premiered And just before the klingon war and went discovery was still in that time. Line and the enterprise with pike at the helm was still in the same timeline. It all it all just depends the time frame that they're said there There's also the possibility considering they're still throwing around what they're going to do with the section thirty one show It could have something to do with the guardian of forever. We know where that is and where it exists in discoveries time that they're currently in so there's a possibility that they could use that to go back in time and interact with earlier cruiser or different timeframes the it science fiction so they could find some way to connect these together or it could literally be something that it's not actually the crew of the discovery. But it's like some side character like lorca or george. Oh that's the main focus of the film. It's going to only gradually or i can't word today. But it is only going to involve the crew of the discovery at a distance and not as the main focus of the film. It could be something involving the klingons. Because they've talk. They've talked about having a klingon centric film so it could be something involving the clowns of that timeframe and lorell and ash. You just don't know. I mean there's so many opportunities and directions take this and we know absolutely nothing about the best part i think. Yeah we don't know anything right now. And i was just thinking of something that i might like to see. That has only been hinted at here. And there in the star trek franchise. And i'm only just going to say three words about it. The temporal wars. I feel like there is a lot there that is never been fully explored in the star trek universe. And i'd really love to see something done with that eventually. I think that the temporal wars the idea of time and space and not to get to doctor who about it in the star trek universe. I think that something you could really explore. You could see what happened with the federation over centuries or the klingons or all of this that you could really just explore anything with with the temporal wars. I think that there is. There's a lot of possibilities and that. That's what's so cool about all of this. Is that because they're so little. It means that there are infinite combinations we could we could have a a neil standalone movie for reno and it's it's there's really nothing that is impossible right now as long as alex. Kirst minister fired again pretty much. The sky's the limit from there l. Yeah wimbley wobbly. Timey way means anything can happen for sure. You know that is that is one thing that just to deviate a little bit of the twelfth doctor. Ima very beginning. He was like a college professor and he was. He had this big chalkboard where he was writing stuff out and was like oh that must be like uva buffet. The the time travel formula or something. And i like that. They at least did something to at least try and explain it a little bit like they never fully did like it still whibley wildly tiny but at least they tried to pretend that there was some science behind it so i appreciated that professor twelve as i called him he had at least some kind of semblance of an explanation. And since this is science fiction and star trek has always had some kind of explanation for travelling through time Maybe they will with this again. We don't know but that's the fun of it that that's the whole front of it heather right now. There's so much more star trek coming like admittedly like we said at the top star. Trek is in production. So there's not a ton of news right now but we know there's more coming in that's awesome. Yes yes we do and Were planning our next episode to be recorded around memorial day weekend it'll be after the cbs upfront presentation. Where they announced all of their plans for their fall tv season so hopefully we will have some more exciting star trek news. Talk about with our special guest that will be none other than the man behind. Weekly trek himself. Mr alex perry so tune in for that. Check your feet for the next episode of the prominent merchants podcast. Thank you for listening to this episode. Were available wherever you get your. Podcasts spotify stitcher. Google play apple podcasts aka tunes. Wherever you may get your podcasts. Follow us on twitter at prompt. Shrek pod join the conversation. Send us an email And what we'll talk track with you. We'll talk trek with you til you're blue in the face like an dorian and everyone follow heather at nerdy gal. Thirty three on twitter. she's great. She changes her profile once a month. It's pretty cool. Never apologize for being nerdy. Heather's got your back And yet especially if you like law and order. Svu so give heather a follow it. 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Tuesday, April 7, 2020

NBC Nightly News

22:29 min | 1 year ago

Tuesday, April 7, 2020

"Tonight the death toll the US rising to more than twelve thousand in New York. The worst day yet one person died every two minutes. The Navy hospital ship Comfort beginning to treat corona virus patients but a crew member testing positive. The new warnings. Why people of Color may be especially at risk and the new side of hope. What New York's Governor says is happening in the states hospitals also tonight the primary and a pandemic long lines at the polls in Wisconsin. The state going ahead with the election after a fierce battle over whether to postpone the dramatic. Shakeout the acting secretary of the navy resigning after he fired the captain excitedly alarm about an outbreak on a US worship. Where is the relief? Hundreds of thousands applying for the federal government. Small Business rescued program. Why have so few gotten money? Nbc News Exclusive. Senator Amy Klobuchar Charter Husband. Their first joint interview. Since his battle with corona virus get all began. They say with a fever kept saying it's over one hundred like every day. It's still over one hundred. I think he might have. Is their new message tonight to families and the race to ramp up the new testing that officials say maybe the key to getting Americans back to work this vanity seen nightly news with Leicester hold good evening. Everyone tonight we are struggling to isolate the hope somewhere inside this horror. But it's hard to get past the numbers like we saw reported in New York State today recording its highest single day death toll from cove nineteen seven hundred thirty one but even as this virus kills sins and communities across this country there are slowly emerging signs of encouragement in places. That some of what we're doing. Maybe working let's turn to our team on the front lines now starting with Gay Gutierrez with New York. Hospitals pushed to the brink. The state's corona virus death toll had its largest single day spike yet. Seven hundred thirty one people died in just twenty four hours one about every two minutes behind. Every one of those numbers is an individual is a family is a mothers Fathers Sisters. A brother but there's some encouraging news governor Andrew. Cuomo is now projecting that New York is reaching a plateau the average number of hospitalizations. Going down the three day average is down which is good news still areo images from New York City show. Not everyone is properly social distancing. We must continue those strategies. If we're going to protect lives so far only about fifty patients have been treated on the US naval ship comfort a crew member. There has just been isolated after testing positive for the virus now one of the largest churches in the world the Cathedral of Saint John The divine in Manhattan will turn into another field hospital to relieve the pressure on doctors like Nicolas Hernandez Northwest Plain view. Hospital Rep pretty much putting out fires. Wherever we can weeks ago he himself got sick. You know I worried about my family. I have an eight month old. I had a you know. Be careful with tried my best to do everything I could to to you. Know maintain my distance but it still at worry. Am I gonNa make it through this? My symptoms going to get better. Why am I getting better stay Tan? It's the eleven and twelve now back at work for grueling ninety our ships but over the weekend his grandfather came into his ICU. He's now on a ventilator. This virus doesn't discriminate for so many on the front lines. It's the battle of their lives. I felt just defeated unappreciated. I spoke with New York. Er Doctor Sione Peru. Last week days later she started showing symptoms. She's now staying home frustrated that it was so hard to get a test one seeing a cinematic White House officials and celebrities animals at the zoo. Getting tested was berry Prostrating anger inducing and shouts worthless among the lives lost. Raymond Copeland a New York City sanitation. Worker Deputy Chief Inspector Saieed Rahman was a twenty two year veteran of the New York Fire Department who helped clean up ground zero. After nine eleven he leaves behind a wife and four young sons pastor. Isaac had led the congregation at Macedonia Baptist Church of Harlem for more than forty years came first Assegai and face life state. Authorities are hopeful. New York may be turning a corner but for the families. Losing loved ones tonight. It is no less painful. Lester Gabe thank you. There are troubling signs as the virus spreads to other hotspots across the country with new data. Suggesting communities of color are hit much harder than others. There's Miguel Almaguer as the corona virus spreads across big cities and small communities. It took roughly a month for our national death toll to reach five thousand but in less than five days that number doubled now surpassing ten thousand. It comes amid scenes like these today in Florida. Little social distancing as many wait in line to file for unemployment benefits in Wisconsin today a primary election. Unlike any other in my lifetime thousands of voters battling long lines in masks trying to stay six feet apart after the courts blocked an effort to postpone the election. They should have prolonged pushed. It back frustration in. Wisconsin comes while Michigan is now experiencing their deadliest days more than seven hundred employees at the Henry. Ford Health System in Detroit have contracted the virus. The police chief among the nearly six hundred officers spending time in quarantine. I'll never seen anything like this. You know I've been through earthquakes than riots in Los Angeles so I know what significant crisis looks like not like this though no community is immune from the virus. People of Color are facing alarming rates of infection in Chicago. Sixty eight percent of the city's deaths involve African Americans who make up just thirty percent of the population. Those numbers take your breath away in Louisiana. Seventy percent of those who have died are also African American though they to comprise roughly thirty percent of the State's population. Dr Blackstock is on the front lines of the fight. Nineteen is the perfect storm for our black and Brown communities which are mostly what are low income. They're going to be the most effective due to lack of access to testing them. Still working on the front lines as essential workers or service workers tonight. Several states have not issued. Stay at home orders. Even as new infections and deaths mount in Seattle we are getting an exclusive look inside the University of Washington's Cova Unit. Where the most serious cases get critical treatment? We just cannot tigger foot off the gas at this point We need all. We need all the capacity that we can manage onto. Maitland say here. For a potential second wave of of ambitions in states like Washington and California where social distancing measures were ordered early? The surgeon general says the infection curve there. His flattened but hospitals across the country are still bracing for patients. Like Paul Logan the Indiana High School Athletic Director who has been on a ventilator for six days. They don't know what's going to happen next. Like they're just blinded net field as we are and so they they do say prepare for the worst but they hope for the best but even amid all the heartbreak. There are heartwarming. Stories of survival. Tearful sendoff for Christina Pas a mother of five who lack the ICU got to hug her husband today for the first time in two weeks tonight here in California the Governor says there may be no sense of normalcy. Anytime soon saying social distancing could be extended in this state into June laster right. Miguel thanks very much. And now to the studying shake up the acting Navy secretary out after he harshly criticized the fired captain. Who made a desperate plea for help after the CORONA Virus outbreak on his ship? Kristen welker is at the White House. Tonight a dramatic twist acting Navy secretary. Thomas Moseley has resigned after setting off a firestorm with a profanity laced address. Monday attacking the captain he ousted. Brett Crozier in remarks to the crew of Crozier's former ship the USS Roosevelt Moseley dismissed crozier last week after crozier wrote a letter that leaked to the press sounding the alarm about an outbreak of corona virus on his ship and pleading for help on a recording obtained by NBC. News mostly accused Crozier of a betrayal of trust commanding officer of some of the sailors with a strong reaction of their own crozier who has now tested positive for covert nineteen himself was given a hero's farewell when he departed president trump reacting late today. But he didn't have to resign but he felt it would be better for the country. It all comes. As the president's entire response to the corona virus is under new scrutiny amid revelations one of his closest advisers Peter Navarro warned the White House on January twenty ninth in a memo obtained by The New York Times and not confirmed by. Abc News the Corona virus could cost United States trillions of dollars millions of lives warning of a lack of preparation that quote elevates the risk of the corona virus evolving into a full blown pandemic imperilling the lives of millions of Americans around the same time. The president repeatedly downplayed the threat view. The the same as the flu. We're in great shape though but now he repeatedly says this. Nobody could have predicted something like this tonight. Mr Trump responded but I heard he wrote a memo Talkin about pandemic I didn't look for him either but that was about the same time as I felt that we should do about the same time that I closed down. Now that is a reference to the travel restrictions against China. Meanwhile the President has replaced the acting. Pentagon inspector general from overseeing the government's handling of that two trillion dollar stimulus package top. Democrats condemned the move calling. It corrupt Lester. All Right Chris Walker at the White House thanks for millions of small business owners. The frustration and fear are only growing as they try to navigate the federal loan process and wait for the money to arrive money. They desperately need with more on that. Here's Stephanie Rule. The clock is ticking for small business owners because each day goes by we worry more and more days of frustration and confusion. Every bank is on a different page after the chaotic rollout of the government three hundred and fifty billion dollar paycheck protection program despite continued reassurances from the Treasury Department you get the money you'll get it the same day if you don't get the loan this week they'll be plenty of money for you next week of the four biggest banks three received loan applications for more than ninety billion dollars but so far they've distributed little to no money wells. Fargo stopped accepting applications forty eight hours after it started and as of today. Citibank's online application process hadn't yet gone live. The Treasury Department says seventy five billion dollars in guaranteed loans were processed some through community banks. But it's unclear. How much has gotten into the hands of business owners? Like Wendy born fifty restaurants might not even make it. I might not make it. The born closed her three metropolitan bakery locations in Philadelphia. We need the VP to enable us to get resume operations. Rehire our staff Harold Bills. It's it's extremely urgent. After a week of gathering documents born was finally able to submit her application. She's been waiting for days to hear if she's been approved. Alex Perry who owns a commercial sign? Company has been waiting even longer. We're down about eighty percent. Perry applied to a Community Bank in Illinois and can't get an update on its status. Lenders are vendors are playing a nice right now. We're all in this together but I worry what's going to happen four to six weeks when their bills come due. Let's today the president. Said he wants Congress to come up with an additional two hundred and fifty billion dollars for the program and wants the Senate to vote on it as early as Thursday. All Right Stephanie. Thank you please join me for a special hour. Long Report on the pandemic will answer your questions tonight at ten eastern on NBC and MS NBC. And we'll be back here in sixty seconds with the first images of life resuming after the lockdown at the original epicenter of all this and the new test that may hold the key to getting people back to work in this country. Hey everyone it's mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of the new podcast into America would happen if you're one of the more than two million. Americans sitting behind bars as corona by response. This week I talked to a Colorado woman who is struggling to remain in contact with her incarcerated husband. It's that I don't know what's going on. I don't know is he? Okay is e sick. So it's like we're trying to live our lives like we normally would but how can you and deadline NBC producer? Dan SLEPIAN TAKES US INSIDE NEW YORK. Sing Sing Correctional Facility to meet. Jj Velazquez an inmate who describes how prison dynamics are shifting as fears of an outbreak. Grow Rail prison in the place. Where like when this tension feel the tension in you can feel the fear and the air when you walk around. It's thick. It's big subscribe for Free. Wherever you get your case the meet the press. Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics. The twenty twenty election more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things. We usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast as corona virus spreads in the US. China today lifted the lockdown in Wuhan where the virus first emerged while in the UK. Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in the ICU. Nbc's Richard Angle reports where it all began in Wuhan China. Today the government lifted its quarantines after more than ten weeks of complete lockdown. I haven't had noodles for two months said this woman. They taste even better but authorities closely track residents using an APP. Although there are accusations China has been fudging the numbers it reported for the first time no new virus deaths hardly so in Europe where thousands are dying every day with no one exempt from infection British Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in an ICU Downing Street. Saying he's stable in good spirits not breathing on his own. Johnson is handed over control to his foreign secretary. The government says whenever necessary. I can reassure the prime minister and we can reassure the public that his team will not blink. We Will Not Flinch from the task at hand. This crucial moment. I spoke to Johnson's former press secretary guided many ways by what it used to do on the field. How hard you hit yourself off. You catch your breath you get on your feet. You get him with task. Johnson is spending another night in the ICU here as the UK recorded its highest daily death toll. So far around eight hundred and experts say the peak has yet to come Lester all right Richard Angle in London tonight. Thanks in back home and major push to speed. Up Testing for corona virus. Antibodies Tom Castellino. Y It could be the key to getting Americans back to work. It could be a game changer to protect frontline paramedics doctors nurses and maybe reopen the economy. A simple finger prick blood test to determine whether someone has already been exposed to the corona virus with or without symptoms recovered and now has the antibodies. That would mean that. You're no longer contagious. And you can't catch the virus because you have the antibodies in your system. Which means you can get to work. You can go back to school and you can do whatever you want already. New York State is ramping up. Production of the test kits similar efforts underway at Stanford University and North Carolina. The results available in minutes. And we're hoping that that will ultimately give more insights for the health departments of how it's being spread and what the true prevalence of cove nineteen population. The FDA has given emergency approval for a test with widespread testing as soon as may we can test people to see if they'd been exposed immune and go back to work and a combination of that kind of test with the current kind of test. We have now is how America opens backup. We're testing isn't always successful. The UK ordered four million antibody test kids and found them to be unreliable. Germany is considering issuing work permits to people who test positive for the antibodies. But that could be months away. Importantly the antibody test is not the same as to test to determine if you currently have the virus that as we're working on the crisis of today we're looking to the future to ensure we have the systems in place to bring those early alert systems together while we work on the antibody testing most researchers agree with governor. Cuomo that it's unlikely you'd get the virus again if you have the antibodies though they need hard science to prove that Lester Tom. Thank you very much coming up. Senator Amy Klobuchar and her husband's urgent message following his corona virus battle. All right we're back. Now with Senator Amy Klobuchar and her husband John. Batchelor speaking out exclusively to our gos- following his corona virus fight for senator. Amy Klobuchar her husband. Twenty twenty started off crisscrossing the country but days after she dropped out of the presidential race. The couple would be facing a very different kind of challenge. Corona virus suddenly had a fever. And you were just lasted for days and days and I kept saying it's over one hundred like every day. It's still over one hundred. I think you might have this senator. Those strike me as an alarmist having you on the campaign trail but was there a point when you started to get nervous. Yeah well when he seemed not always attend to what the temperature was in that it was so high when he started coughing up blood when you detected the shortness of breath in our phone conversations. John had to go to the hospital. For five days relying on supplemental oxygen so Martin. He ended up taking turn for the better. So many people take a turn for the worse. And you can't be there you can't there and you can't give a hug to the health workers fifty two years old. You had no underlying health conditions. You're the person this is not supposed to affect like this right. This is not the cold. You don't get pneumonia when you get a call and the hospital oxygen when you get a cold. This is really serious thing now. He plans to donate plasma as I still have some pneumonia from Crombie. I'm still dealing with that but as soon as I get over that and maybe donating some Some blood and he's not contagious anymore. No we said the doctor said tonight. The family is back together. Their daughter made them spaghetti can send him up to the grocery store now. That's his job. Stephanie Gospel NBC. News New York a battle of so many or fighting up next for us the new portrait of American families on the Front Porch. Finally let us show you the new twist on the family photo. Here's Kevin tables portraits of families together in a pandemic. Hopefully they're gonNA remember the same as the day. They take a picture together because something bad happens. So that's the good thing out of this. Okay you ready. Jackie Bravo vis air. Is One of many photographers snapping. Parents kids and pets from the safe confines of their porch often stopping on walks to shoot folks in Chicago. She's never met free of charge. It's a gift really like friend. Izzy and Eric Abramowicz kindness. And we're going to be okay. Chris via was supposed to be on vacation in Florida. So what does the photo do for you back? A memory keepsakes of when we all made the best of it one three Kevin tables. Nbc News Chicago Picture. That that's nightly news. I'm Lester Holt. Please take care of yourself and each other. Hey It's Chris. As this week on my podcast wise is happening. I'LL BE TALKING WITH JOHN. Berry author of the book the Great Influenza about the last global pandemic we analyze what city is dead in nineteen eighteen and found that those cities which intervened early had a much better experience at the very least in terms of flattening the curb if the intervened too late the virus is already widely disseminated in your community and no intervention is GonNa have any effect if the enemy is already inside the home. It doesn't do you any good to lock the door. That's this week on. 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 The fight against HIV: then and now  Science Weekly podcast

The Guardian's Science Weekly

26:49 min | 2 years ago

The fight against HIV: then and now Science Weekly podcast

"Uh-huh. The gods. in the early nineteen eighty s many thought appeti- mic's about to be thing of the past the decade started with the World Health Assembly declaring smallpox had been Radicati did, thanks to a global immunization campaign and Simla campaigns had greatly reduced the incidence of diseases like polio mumps measles in many parts of the world. And this led some scientists think there might be seeing an end to infectious diseases. But then in nineteen Eighty-one a new epidemic appeared. Acquired immune deficiency syndrome, or aids for short was first identified about eighteen months ago, the disease which is almost always fatal leads to a complete breakdown of the body's own natural defenses leaving the victim wide open to a rare form of terminal cancer, and lethal belts of infection. There was still of stigma within healthcare systems, people were treated quite horrendously in some hospitals, because they were known to have aids. Sadly after thirty plus years. There were still a lot of stigma surrounding HIV and aids, and we still don't have a cure, but there is hope a string of recent trials have been hailed as a big step to curbing epidemic. It's just taking millions of lives. Many belonging to gay men who are disproportionately high risk of contracting the disease. The impact of the aids epidemic on the gay community has been hugely significant, both in terms of the toll, it took on a generation of men and the activism that came in response to it, this month is pregnant, and so on science weekly, we want to look back at the history of HIV, the stigma, the misinformation and the role that science is played. We all say once look forward to the promising drug trials, and whether the UK government can fulfill its twenty nineteen commitment to stop new HIV transmissions in England by twenty thirty. If you're on the drugs, you on not going to transmit HIV infection to anybody else. So there's an obvious consequence of that, if you can get everybody with HIV infection on treatment, you will not only save their lives, but it will stop the transmission of the disease straight away. I'm haunted Devlin. This is science weekly. I'm at expire hook and I'm HIV prevention England program. Officer taken trust I started by asking. Alex HIV is HIV stands for human immunodeficiency virus, and it's a virus that attacks the immune system of the body in particular, what's known as CD four cells, which form the immune response within the body, and it infects the cells, and during the replication process actually kills them and that can lead to someone having a week and demean system, an oatmeal, if left untreated though, develop a number of different conditions that can these notice as aids which is acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. What point made the transition between these things I will point to get counted his aides. So the different definitions of aids actually, is in the UK, which normally be giving someone an aids diagnosis when the CD four counts, the amount of the CD four cells immune response in the body falls below two hundred copies per milliliter of blood and also have to have what's known as an aids defining conditions, so something like PCP type of new Monia and various forms of cancer. And that sort of thing we often talk about late stage HOV now or advanced HOV, instead of aids in the UK, but it still term that globally is used a lot. When did the medical world, I became aware of the significance of HIV and aids. So HIV wasn't discovered a virus for for many years, actually, after they start to find people who were basically experiencing. Items of the condition, and it was like she nine hundred eighty one the an Oscar was published described gay men who had the same type of new Monja and had similar types of cancer. And essentially, they realized there was something going on behind the scenes that this wasn't just normal new Neo Anoma type of cancer in the population this something very specific. There was being transmitted we've in population, the initially was thought just to be affecting gay men, and they coined the time grid or gay related immune deficiency. And that kind of led to law stereotyping early days, that this was something that just defected gay men. There was still a lot of stigma within healthcare systems, people were treated quite horrendously in some hospitals, because they were known to have aids. And that's really one of the reasons why turn take into trust with that up in one thousand nine hundred two it was named after Terry Higgins and his partner and his phone's, wanted up the charity in his name in the UK to make sure that other people didn't have to go through the experiences that form, they could support people who were dying of aids today, come to be as possible. Teigen's was one of the first people to dive in age related illness in the UK. Following his death in one thousand nine hundred eighty Higgins's partner report Whitaker helped to found the Terrance against trust. At the time there was still much confusion, stigma Miranda aids acquired immune deficiency syndrome. What some people wrongly and shockingly called the gay plague or grit gay related immunodeficiency. Groups like the tyrant Higgins trust. And the gay medical association pushed back against this providing support to those with HIV and education. Those without it. Around the same time scientists were finally able to isolate night entity HIV is the cause of aids and demonstrated that it wasn't just gay men who were risk. I mean initially really was like hands on deck, but it was really difficult to determine what was happening. Lots of research was put into these people that were really really and suffering, quite horrendous conditions. And it really was just the determination of scientists globally around the world to pick about what was going on. And once the virus was discovered and attest was able to be developed they were then able to roll out and find people, of course, in, in the early days in the eighties as well. There wasn't actually any treatment because the wasn't yet the treatments, the government fakest on prevention to be Margaret Thatcher's health Secretary, Norman, Fowler, nausea, huge public information campaign in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven called don't aids. Although according to follow his PM was not natural supporter, you will have. Soon, the merger booklet which we got out which tells a great deal about juleps seeing some of the advertisements in the press, government can't stop you from getting aids. But most people could stop themselves this came following years of mounting pressure on politicians by gay activists and members of the scientific and medical communities. He will Nuys and lobbied around. One simple. Message this could affect straight people to. And while these meshes did leads to greater awareness of the disease, effective therapies didn't appear until nineteen ninety five when a combination of drugs was approved for use in the US. These were known as highly active antiretroviral therapy, or heart and a similar approach is still used today, unto retroviral medication stops HIV from replicating in the body, and there's a number of different clauses and they work in different ways. Some of them stop the virus muchly binding to CD four, so other stop the replication of the genetic material the viral, our Rene from being able to be replicated within the Senate self and others block things like proteins being made stops of arson being out to replicate Imboden, essentially produce millions more copies of itself. So scientists doctors have made huge strides in being up to treat HIV and people. These days are able to live a completely normal healthy active life. But nevertheless, a lot of people would prefer not to be taking a drug everyday life. If they if there was an alternative. Scientists to be working on in a possible tentatives to one cases really caught. People's imagination is the Berlin patient and if been updates and like tell us a bit about what case involved, why that was exciting in terms of potential treatment. Yes, the, the Berle impatient, where someone called Timothy Brown, who is living with HIV, but also had a very rare and severe type of cancer. And whereas h re-treatment and can stop to replication of the virus in bodily fluids, the HIV virus still resides in body tissues, and essentially, as a side effect of, by marriage. He underwent to treat the cancer that she found that they had been Radicati hid or repair within the the tissue as well. And essentially, he was killed he doesn't have to take HIV treatment, and he's longer. However, it's not something. It's people being able to replicate, it's extremely dangerous procedure people die from this procedure when they're undergoing because of treatment for cancer and put in perspective, the, the classes that we've had to a similar operation under God into someone who lived in London, MAURICE in the past eighteen months or so. So it's taken a decade to kind of find a second pass, where that's even similar circumstances around. It's not something that anyone living with HIV days day, could undergo would want to? At least to this treatment is rare and certainly not gains be what brings about an end to the democ. But one thing that people have got really high hopes about is therapy known as pre exposure, prophylaxis or prep, which was approved for use in the US into one thousand twelve. As the name suggests this is a more proactive approach, which is taken by HIV negative people. He might be at risk of contracting, HIV. Doesn't like a barrier methods say condom does. But it means that if any of the virus was against their body. There's enough with HIV medication in the system to stop it from replicating. So it can't get a hold of in the and the viruses century just dies. And we know it's really helping to reduce new diagnosis, whereas access to it in the UK at the moment that differs from between the different nations in England, your only able to access at the moment. If you bought yourself, online and important, or if you'd go access to the impact trial, which has different sites in sexual health clinics across the country, but I- spaces happened fitting up really fast into mom's been quite high to get on the child particularly amongst gay and bisexual men. Expose the status of HIV in the UK today. How many people do we know infected and what's the rate of diagnosis, how many new diagnoses although each year, so we know in the UK now that there are about one hundred thousand people living with HIV, and most of them are aware of this data? So they're being seeding care, and they're taking treatment, we do know about seven thousand eight hundred of those aren't aware their, their diagnosis. And these are the people that were trying to reach. Carrying out HIV testing and clinics, or GP's and community settings. We've seem quite a substantial decline in new diagnosis in the most recent years between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen that was an eighteen percent fall in new diagnosis. And that's really down to effective HIV treatment and increases in HIV testing. It's heartening to hear the progresses ientist of made in fighting HIV, but despite these advances were over four thousand new HIV diagnoses in the UK in twenty seventeen. Earlier this year, the U K government announced it would try to Iran dicate new HIV infections, in England by twenty thirty but how so real the if we can get the treatment to all those people who are infected? We'll be back in a minute after the break. My name is Emma John, and I've never seen England's men win a World Cup. But since nobody else has either. I'm told I'm perfectly qualified to host this guardian. Cricket poke assed England currently favorites to win both the World Cup and the ashes on home soil this summer. So welcome to the spin podcast. I'm feeling giddy already. And if you ought to know that we'll be here for you all the way in the coming months to hold your hand. Holy beer. Or if it all goes wrong to just home. This message was brought to you by a cost. The voice from the guardian. Hey, do you have a one quick catch up on the knees headlines best thing in the morning while making breakfast, all getting dressed? Well, if you have a legal assistant Ogle home we can help with that. The guardian briefing is an experiment from the voice lab, which under team minutes brings you up to speed with what you need to know about the day's top stories, we'll make sure you don't miss a thing to listen anytime just say, hey Google speak to the guardian briefing. Welcome back to science Wheatley. I'm hunted Flynn. Before the break we heard about the huge progress in curbing HIV epidemic. In large part, this was thanks to the efforts of the gay community. The kind of solidarity which is being celebrated this month during pride. Even today, though there was no cure, and so much of the focus continues to be on prevention. And last month. There was a paper in the Lancet confirming that the drugs available today. Completely stop people with HIV transmitting, the virus to others. Many of hailed. This is the beginning of the end. I wanted to find out more, so I invited my colleague, Sara Bazeley infra chat. Sarah is the guardians health editor. This is a trial called the partner trial, and it's actually the development of a trial that began in twenty fourteen. So the first results from twenty sixteen and that was amongst heterosexual couples, so man woman, one of whom had HIV and the other didn't. And what has what has happened is that the person who has HIV has treatment retroviral treatment as everybody does or should have if they are reached with it, and that suppresses the virus so far in their body to such low levels that it becomes on transmissible. That's what the trial was proved and the first results were in twenty sixteen and showed that in ab- round nine hundred couples in fact, there were there was zero transmission? So nobody at all picked up HIV from the HIV infected partner. So the latest trial. The results of which very recent is the extension of that into gay couples you had one man, who was HIV positive, and his partner, who was not, and the man, who's HIV positive was on antiretroviral treatment, and the virus was suppressed to such a low level. Again, that in fact, no transmissions happened tool. So nobody actually got HIV as a result of sex with their partner, who was on anti retroviral drugs. The were a few men that were new newly diagnosed who are on the trial, which on face with you might start worrying that it wasn't completely effective. But why was that there were fifteen men who were infected with HIV during the course of this trial? But in all those cases, it was figured out that, in fact, it had sex with somebody else, not actually with their partner who was on, on the drugs, and, and therefore wasn't infectious. And how is the medical community responded to this study? Because I just gifts so much confidence in the idea that you able to stop the spread of HIV. Well, there has been huge Tuesday, awesome for this ever since the first results in twenty sixteen because of course, what it means is that, you know. You know, if you're on the drugs, you are not going to transmit HIV infection to anybody else. So there's an obvious consequence of that if you can get everybody with HIV infection on treatment. It will not only save their lives. But it will stop the transmission of the disease straight away. There will be no more virus moving about the planet. So the thought of that is phenomenal. And there has been massive enthusiasm in the medical community. Also most the campaign is clearly, the as activists everybody, so this trial, because it's four years down the line for five years down the line from from the first results people are simply saying, while, that's fantastic. And it proves it in finally, the can be no more discussion, it happens not only in heterosexual couples, but also in homosexual gay couples so you know we all their if we can get the treatment to all those people who are infected. The other. If is that we need to make sure that everyone who is infected nosy, infected remember how Alex, there were over seven thousand people in the UK who don't know. They've got HIV those people could be transmitting, the virus to others knowingly the, the other thing, everybody has been talking about his test, and treat. That's another mantra if you like what you need to do. So you need to have everybody diagnosed and in the U K forty three percent of people are diagnosed late with HIV, and that is when they've been obviously infected for some time in a maybe a year, maybe six months. But during that time they have been able to pass it on somebody else because they didn't know they were infected so they won't necessarily been taking precautions using condoms, and they certainly won't be on treatment, so relate stage diagnosis is bad news. And we need to do something about that. But there still. A lot of stigma around HIV, so people are reluctant to go for testing, and they rather assume fingers crossed, that they're not HIV positive, and it has been suggested actually by a few doctors that there should be absolutely routine testing certainly for anybody who goes to an STI clinic because if you're picking up sexually transmitted infections from Columbia to, to syphilis gonorrhea, you could also be picking up HIV so that would be one way of doing it making it. Absolute normal for everybody to be tested in curbing the HIV epidemic. The prep approach is kids sit at key by many campaigns. This is a drug that reduces the risk of someone becoming HIV positive, even if they have unprotected sex with someone who is how us Alex before access to these drugs is still limited in parts of the UK in the UK, the NHS, actually, has tried his best not to provide them for people routinely. Not in the numbers that would need them could use them. And the reason for that is, is, again, simply the cost and HSE England four to court case against as she providing them to everybody who wanted them saying that it wasn't their responsibility. It should be the local authorities to pay for it rather than an HSE England. So it was simply a money issue and an lost. But what they've done instead now is to launch a big trial in the situation of a trial. They are able to use the generic version, which is a lot cheaper. So at the moment, you've got quite a lot of people who are in the trial, and therefore accessing prep that way. But there are still people who are not getting it who would like to. It's restricting the sometimes those decisions are made on a per patient basis for that particular patient. It might not be cost effective, but it could save powerful. If you wanted to actually bring HIV transmission to, to an end completely couldn't will. Yes, I think, in this case, it's Rotherham. A close decision. If you like because it's a profit exits, because it's is not actually a treatment for somebody. So you don't do it on a one by one basis. Will this whole group of people who are having potentially risky, sex be prevented from getting a disease that would then cost the and it just an awful lot of money? So it's it's been it's a is a, a major decision that initials inland to make, you know, were they going to provide it to everybody or to nobody, and their decision originally was we can't afford to do this. So it'll have to be nobody and hopefully the literal will pick up the tab. It feels as they we now have the tools to end the epidemic, providing we diagnose people quickly. Suppress the virus. So it compu- transmitted, a make sure that those people who risk have access to prep drugs, all of which will be key. If the UK government's commitments end transmission of HIV in England by twenty thirty is to be met. But I'll Sarah Alex challenges remain. The government has stated it wants to end new transmissions by twenty thirty. I do think that is possible in the UK, but we do need to invest in our sexual health services. We need to make sure that we're targeting people who need to be tested, and we really need to reduce this number if no it's reduced dramatically the number of people who onto where they have HIV. But without doing so we still run the risk of that, as I big, new diagnoses. So. The sensually where stopping HIV from being nepotistic it walls, because people are taking the treatment, but in order to do that they need to know that they have is a one thing at the moment that you can see a major kind of sticking into of what's available three health clinics, or political sticking in, in his is one thing that you could get politicians to change to try meet this talk. What would it be the in the UK? It's definitely investment in sexual health services will seeing increased Monde more people want to attend connects. We know more people being turned away though. And this isn't just in general sexual health. We know STI like syphilis gonorrhea on increase, we really need to ensure that there's that money, within public health budgets, to support those services to be able to test people, and we also need to ensure that support prevention services from voluntary and. Will organizations also supported because we know that know everyone wants to go to have a test and it's important there is a different range of options available. We're really lucky new K that things like HOV. You can actually do a test at home. Now you can get result within fifty minutes, and it's those kind of interventions have really paved the way to more more people taking HIV tests and finding out their status if they do have and being to access the treatment. Many, thanks to Alex Perry hawk and Sarah Bazeley for joining us this week. If you've got any comments thoughts or suggestions about anything you've heard send them over our Email is science weekly up the guardian dot com. If you'd like to eat more about the latest research on HIV will include a link to some of Sarah's writing in the episodes description on the guardian website. The program was produced by gray Jackson. I'm hunted Flynn until next time goodbye. 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Thursday, April 16, 2020

NBC Nightly News

22:27 min | 1 year ago

Thursday, April 16, 2020

"Tonight President Trump's plan for reopening America details just coming in the three phases. The president is outlining to get the. Us Back to work days after saying it was up to him. The president now telling governors it's in their hands to lift those stay at home orders tonight. How soon some states could begin to ease social distancing but will there be enough testing as the US death toll tops. Thirty four thousand the catastrophe at nursing homes the tip that led police to seventeen bodies in one facilities tiny more than fifty six hundred residents data across the. Us Families Pleading for answers to all out in their pirated. This I want him back. The rising concern worker showing up sick the staggering new toll twenty two million Americans filing for unemployment in just a month the rescue fund for small businesses already out of money the standoff in Congress over more money they alarming impact than new reporting and how severely corona virus could damage your brain and game on the PGA announces. Its return. How other sports could make their comebacks in ways we've never seen before. This is NBC. Nightly News. With Lester Holt. Good evening everyone tonight. We're at a gut check moment in our battle with a corona virus and its impact on lives more than thirty four thousand law. So far and lively hoods twenty two million American jobs erase president trump tonight announcing a roadmap to rebooting the economy unveiling guidelines it would keep schools close but invasion returns to offices the reopening of restaurants theaters churches and gyms all under strict conditions. But are we really there yet? Our team tackling all tonight. I Peter Alexander with those breaking developments from the White House Peter. What do we know less? They're gonNA evening the president tonight laying out his recommendations for reopening the economy the guidelines do not provide specific dates or locations and they acknowledged that governors have the final say on what happens in their states president trump tonight outlining new federal guidelines for opening up America. Again we are not opening all at once but one step at a time this afternoon telling all fifty governors. You're going to call your own shots. The White House announcing three phases to guide governors decisions phase one urging all individuals went in public to maximize physical distance from others and saying schools that are currently closed should remain closed phase two when non essential travel can resume and bars and schools and reopen and phase. Three Americans can largely return to their lives but should consider minimizing time spent in crowded environments moving between phases for each state would require evidence. The number of corona virus cases has gone down for fourteen days and White House. Aides insist. Some states may be able to reopen before may first the guidance addresses the need for testing and contact tracing it but it remains unclear. How many tests will be needed and will be available for governors to feel comfortable reopening their states. The president today pressed by Democratic lawmakers on the need for dramatically more testing pushed back according to one Republican Senator President Trump indicated that the economy would have to be reopened before widespread testing can be available. Peter Alexander NBC News. The White House. This is Gabe Gutierrez from coast to coast from New York and Boston to Orlando Chicago and Los Angeles. Many cities are essentially ghost towns today. The calls to reopen America reach their loudest yet. I don't think that the government has any business telling us what we can and cannot do this. Protesting Virginia followed others. This week in Michigan North Carolina today the Governors of seven Midwestern states banded together to coordinate. How in win? They'd reopen. Ohio says it stayed home. Order will expire on May first with safeguards the world that we're going to see is is is a different world people with mass. See people where there's a lot of Sanat sanitizers the workplace is going to change Los Angeles in Washington. Dc have already extended their stay at home. Orders until may fifteenth at the nation's cove in one thousand nine epicenter. New York's governor. Today did the same. What happens after then? I don't know we will see depending on what the data shows today. That data showed the daily death. Toll in New York fell for the second straight day. I see you. Admissions are dropping dramatically here but the economic toll is mounting. Needy families lined up outside. This Dallas foodbank today in Boston Dr Swamy is worried about America reopening his. Icu is still packed. It is terrifying to me to think about people congregating to think about people being in the streets to think about my kids in school again It's nothing scares me more about two thousand. Americans are dying from Corona virus each day among them Kenneth Boswell of Rockford Illinois. His wife says she lost a love of her life and had to say goodbye over facetime. Able to actually see the phone. His you know the last moments so undescribable tonight. New York City's mayor is urging residents to lower expectations for the summer. Saying it's too soon to tell when sporting events beaches and public gatherings might resume. Lester gave thank you land. We can't emphasize enough the magnitude of the crisis within this crisis. We're talking about the devastating losses growing at the country's nursing homes leaving thousands of families heartbroken and furious your skates now in New Jersey. Where Ninety five percent of the state's long term care facilities have corona virus a gruesome discovery authorities say. They found seventeen bodies crammed inside a small morgue at the state's largest nursing home also outraged. That bodies of the dead were allowed to pile up in a makeshift morgue at the facility. New Jersey is living in our long term care facilities deserve to be cared for with respect compassion and dignity. We can and must do better. A congressman got a frantic call from andover sub acute and rehabilitation on Saturday. She asked for help with extra body bags they were out such a crisis mode and owner told NBC News. The heroic healthcare staff has been working relentlessly to contain the virus. Leary Pasha's eighty four year. Old Mother died three weeks ago. They told there were no cases originally and then find out later this this Kobe. Nineteen was basically running rampant in the nursing home that facility has been reported to police before one owner was an executive of a troubled family. Run nationwide chain. Nbc News Investigated last Summer In. May Try to transfer me to the nurses station but the nurses station is just so inundated. Families across the country are desperate for information about their loved ones in facilities. Nbc News now counts more than fifty six hundred deaths at more than thirty. Four hundred facilities nationwide in Florida nursing homes petitioning the governor to protect them against lawsuits from families after seven. Deaths at atrial willow would Florida's governor worried that employees were showing up for work with cove symptoms. You had people that were sick pitch and now that's for sure. The facility responding that the governor's comments were inaccurate and unproductive and inconsistent with substantial and urgent steps being taken staffing. Is the number one issue right now? Many of them are making close to minimum wage I think there's a real feeling that. Hey this is not what I signed up to do the agency that runs. Medicare saying it's working with the CDC to get better data and we'll have more information soon. Not Soon enough for Sheila Curran. Whose husband died. I want more information. I want more transparency. Yeah I want people to know part of this and I want him back Kate Snow. Nbc News Now the staggering economic toll new numbers today show tens of millions of Americans out of work in just one month as hundreds of thousands of small business owners. Desperately wait for new loan funding. Could help keep them afloat. Here's Joe Lean Kent Tonight. The long lines at foodbanks reflecting the grim reality for millions of Americans left jobless and Hungary many for the first time. More than five million workers filed for employment benefits last week pushing the total to a catastrophic twenty two million out of work in just one month. That's more than the populations of forty eight states including Florida and New York. The sudden unemployment surge wiping out. Virtually all jobs added since the financial crisis. Eleven years ago I was laid off. Serena says is a single mother in Oregon. She applied for unemployment after being laid off from her job at a travel company. It's just a waiting game. That's really unsettling for a lot of us because I honestly don't know when that check will becoming among the states hardest hit California Georgia Texas and Michigan where twenty. Five percent of the workforce is without a job the highest percentage in the country. What is the office doing to make sure that unemployed people can get their benefits in a timely fashion? I think any state system was set up to handle pandemic. We're throwing everything we can at processing these claims. We're not going to rest until we do in New Orleans Ruth and Stephen. Yomata say even with unemployment benefits. It's hard to make ends meet unemployment checks. Joel even begin to cover. Our monthly expenses am layoffs are not letting up best buy furloughing fifty one thousand workers this week and Disney another forty three thousand this coming weekend as unemployed workers muster all their hope to get through this a simple message. I just hope that people take this seriously so that we can all get back to work. Juuling KENT NBC News. Los Angeles. This is Stephanie Rule. Small Business Owners. Still trying to apply for forgivable loans are being turned away because the government's paycheck protection program is out of money after a chaotic. Start more than fourteen years. Worth of loans were processed in less than fourteen days. But it wasn't enough before the economy was in freefall. These small business owners were already worried hard stuff painful for me to think about the families. The crime responsible. We're down about eighty percent. My fear is that he's doors won't open and the people won't come through. That's exactly what happened. When state homeowners went into effect now with the three hundred fifty billion dollars exhausted the push to add another two hundred and fifty billion is stalled in Congress. Democrats insisting on new wording after criticism those who needed the loans most were not prioritized still to meet the full demand. Experts say the price tag will be significantly higher denny. Koch the town shop in New York. He has twenty eight employees devastating acting on good faith and paying my employees. He says he had no idea. The application window would close so quickly. The one little piece of the puzzle that was possibly keep everyone's going and keep everyone. Afloat is now gone. Demo owns a barbershop and Harlem. His application has not been approved. The don't get the loan I can probably less told me. I really don't even want to think about that. Alex Perry who owns a commercial company? Chicago just got word. He was one of the nearly one point. Seven million loans approved. It was day to day almost hour that I was worrying about business and now just almost like simple finger. I feel much more confident. Algebra Miller's loan was also just approved but she's using donations and personal savings to pay ten of the employees at her catering company to make free meals for hospital workers first responders. It's a win win. We're giving work to our employees as well as eating those frontline people if you have applied for a paycheck protection loan and haven't been approved. Contact your lender and make sure all your paperwork is an order that way if the funds get replenished and there's a good chance they will be. You'll be ready. Lester Arrive Stephanie. Thanks we'll be back in sixty seconds with the urgent new warning about the damage. Corona virus may do to the brain symptoms. Everyone needs to pay attention to. Hey everyone it's mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of the new podcast into America in our latest episode. We go to Nashville Seattle and all over the Internet to see just how creative some people are getting to keep the music going. What happens when gigs are cancelled? Clubs closed at school. Concerts are called off when people listen to music. They're feeling the emotions and the closeness of somebody else even if they can't be in the same space as them grown viruses keeping US home. But as you'll hear it can't stop the music. The importance of music is to keep our spirits up in this situation and in my opinion may as well make the best of it. Subscribe for Free. Wherever you get your podcast. Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics. The twenty twenty election and more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things. We usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast back now. With new signs corona virus can have harmful effects on the body beyond the lungs in some cases. Impacting the brain. We get more on that now from Stephanie. Gosh in March while Kovic patients suffering from lung failure filled. Icu's in New York City. Doctors at Mount Sinai noticed an alarming spike. In something else strokes. We saw a unprecedented increase in the number of large vessels stroke patients coming into the health system. Forty-five in a four week period nearly tripled the normal number according to neurosurgeon. Dr Juliane Affi. Half of the patients had cove it and were on average twelve years younger than typical stroke victims. How surprising is that It was very surprising everybody on the team noticed it and said this there has to be a correlation with Kovin and and stroke. There are still so many unanswered questions about this debilitating virus among them. What is it doing to the brain? A limited study of two hundred and fourteen cova patients in China found more than a third suffered. Neurological symptoms the most common loss of taste and smell dizziness headaches. Even unconsciousness and in rare instances strokes. Wonderful Nicole Hutcherson. A nurse says alarm bells went off when she visited her eighty two year old usually active dad and he seemed almost sedated. He was confused. Just wasn't in. There is blank here was diagnosed with covert within days. He passed away. It's unclear if he had a stroke now. His brain is part of a study looking at neurological damage from the virus. Help wherever he could help at. Mount Sinai they've started giving blood thinners to some virus patients to prevent strokes. We had a patient. Here is Thirty three years old and previously healthy and she developed symptoms of Arm Weakness and numbness and she stayed at home for over a day with the symptoms before calling nine one one because she waited. She will have to deal with some long term complications. The young woman didn't WanNA catch the virus in the ER. She didn't realize that she already had it. Stephanie Gospel NBC News New York in the search for solutions tonight as the federal and state governments struggled to ramp up testing companies are beginning to map out what it will take to safely bring their employees back to work. Here's Tom Castillo with America. Shut down from main street to Wall Street parked planes shuttered warehouses and factories. American business is tonight asking not just when but how to restart if the recovery is not done in a thoughtful and responsible way it would not only cost lives but it would deepen the economic crisis now. Corporate America is considering what yet another new normal might look like despite some employees protests that it's not doing enough Amazon says it's already providing masks and checking employees temperatures. A next step might be regular testing of all employees including those showing no symptoms with quarrel pull employees staying at home. The company says it's exploring technology solutions to allow employees to pre certify that they are without symptoms before they come to work but so far only three point two million people have been tested for covert nineteen out of three hundred twenty eight million Americans another test to see if someone has the Cova. Antibodies and should have immunity is only starting to roll out Microsoft founder. Bill Gates now. A global health advocate says widespread. Testing is the key to reopening the economy. If we get our act together countrywide those get into place by early. June will be looking at some type of opening up. If an employee were to test positive for antibodies. They could be clear to work if they have signs of the illness. That'd be sent home along with anyone else. With whom they'd had contact inevitably at some point this summer we're going to start reintroducing activity before we have everything we want among the unanswered questions. How will employer safeguards employees and medical privacy and do co workers an automatic right to know if somebody tests positive luster? Tom Castillo thanks up. Next the return of sports with no fans the plans underway tonight. Legend of the stage and screen has died. Brian Dennehy who starred in films like I blood cocoon and Tommy boy and had numerous television roles on the stage. You want to Tony's including one for death of a salesman. His family said he died from natural causes not related to cove at nineteen. He was eighty-one back to our corona virus coverage now and with all the talk about reopening the country. Sports Leagues are planning their comebacks. But what might that new normal look like for fans and athletes? Here's McGill mcgeer. The moments that define professional sports are now replaced by the deafening silence of our new reality for the game to go on fans must stay home at least for now today the PGA tour announcing they'll resume play in June but without crowds. That line fairways. And that make victories so memorable. Even America's pastime is looking to a new future major league baseball batting around the idea of league play in Arizona with players isolating in hotels. And no one in the stands. It happened for a single game in two thousand fifteen during civil unrest in Baltimore with the NFL and NBA. Also in contact with the White House. Florida's governor is calling for NASCAR to get back on track at least on TV the NHL Commissioner says hockey Games during a pandemic would need a new sound at minimum. We're going to have to pump sound into the arena because hockey in in a quiet environment. The two don't go hand in hand here in Los Angeles. The mayor says stadiums. Like this one will likely be empty until next year and even say for athletes to return fans will likely have a view like they've never seen before. Miguel thanks up next how this ninety nine year old veteran helped raise millions to fight the vice. Finally we have to tell you. The story of the World War Two veteran raising millions to corona virus. Mollie hunter on his epic journey without ever leaving his garden. Captain Tomore had to battle but never like this. The ninety nine year old World War. Two vet set out to raise twelve hundred dollars for healthcare workers walking laps in his garden law. All of the Bible. This is a lot more than a pat on the back. His school walked one hundred laps by his one hundredth birthday April thirtieth but within days he raced past five million dollars than ten. Then fifteen believer on Thursday. He walked last twenty five laps with a guard of honour by his side. As healthcare workers cheered and the rest of us got just what we needed. Elizabeth of Sunshine. Mollie HUNTER NBC News. London and a little sunshine goes a long way. That's nightly news. I'm Lester Holt. Please take care of yourself and each other. Hey It's Chris. As this week on my podcast. Why is this happening? I'll be talking with computational biologist Carl Bergstrom but what we do and don't know about the corona virus once these things get out there and this is sort of a key aspect of misinformation. Disinformation is the once they're out there. They really take off and they spread in so Jonathan Swift said several hundred years ago that falsehood flies and truth comes limping after. And that's what happens on the Internet of course to there's more recent version of this which is known as Brandolini Book Day symmetry principle and it says the amount of work that it takes to clean up his an order of magnitude larger than the amount of work it takes to create it so we definitely see that sort of thing happening with all kinds of conspiracy theories including this one around the virus. This week on wise's happening search for wise is happening wherever you're listening right now and subscribe.

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Barceloneando 403  Escapada a Valencia

Podcast RadioViajera

30:27 min | 1 year ago

Barceloneando 403 Escapada a Valencia

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Promenade Merchants Podcast #26  Star Trek Voyagers Million Dollar Documentary

Delta Juliet Mike Media

33:08 min | 4 months ago

Promenade Merchants Podcast #26 Star Trek Voyagers Million Dollar Documentary

"Up cuties. This is the promenade. Merchants podcast star trek podcast out on the frontier. So sit down and grab a rock to gino. David majors and heather curvy talk all things star. Trek old new and what's to the promenade virgins are open for business. Welcome everybody to the prominent merchants podcast. It's star trek. Podcast were sitting on the prominent s. Nine we're just we're just hanging out either having a sparkling water. 'cause i'm cutting the sugar. So no more wreckage gino for me. I'm david majors. My co miss kirby. What's up heather. What's it's how i think it will. We've reached the point in the year where it's just kinda dreary grey. It's raining it's still occasionally cold. The dreary season. We're in the dreary season but we have some exciting things to talk about tonight. We do we do still have some star trek stuff to talk about everybody and we thank you for listening and shout out to everybody out there. That checked me out on weekly trek. Hope you enjoyed that shut to everybody. That caught us on start date today. Heather and i when we were on star date today with cat king lang some trek games doing some mad libs. And if you're tuning in from weekly track thank you so much. I'm not nearly as much of a silly goofball on that. Podcast as i am here so we'll just jump right in so if this is your first time tuning into prominent merchants we we have a little bit of format We start with old business. Which is sort of the classic era of star trek pretty much everything up to and including the kelvin movies. New business Anything that's happening in the world of trek news in the here and now and upcoming is when we look to star trek beyond not just specifically the movie but things happening with star trek in the future sell heather. We're gonna jump into old business because this is one that we both thought was a good idea as everyone knows. Draghi's have lots of different favorite actors in their star trek series in their star trek. Fandom and star trek has a lot of actors that do get work outside of star trek now some anyway i will ask you and i would love everyone out there to let us know on twitter. At prompts crackpot. Please tell us what have you enjoyed. thanks to discovering new work from an actor in star trek. If there's something out there that star trek actor did that you decided to check out. New really enjoyed it Heather what did you find. Well i mean. I have to think about this one because most of the actors in star trek the first thing i think of when i think about things that they have been is star trek so i had to think about things that i have watched. Because i've seen someone in star trek and Probably one of the things that actually just popped into my head right now. Is this show from like back in the nine these it was after. Tng's run obviously but it was called beyond belief factor fiction which is hosted by john other than jonathan frakes. So i remember watching that just being cited because that was number one star trek as a kid It was it was kind of a show on the realm of like unsolved mysteries except for it told stories of like crazy things that were set in a real life situation and then at the end of the show it would tell you whether the story was actually true or if the story was something completely made up so it's a ridiculous show but it's one of those things that you just kind of like to put on and have a little fun with something. Heather have you seen the videos on youtube called. Jonathan frakes asks you questions yes okay. So for everyone out there i. This goes back to factor fiction which i remember watching with my mom back in the day on the sci-fi channel way back when because we were also excited to see jonah breaks. And now you'll see on youtube these various videos that have clips from factor. Fiction of jonathan. Frakes asking you questions about the episode of that particular episode. And they're these videos have been spliced in many different ways including heather involving david xanthos asking a question which brings me to my first choice. Gargoyles the nineties disney cartoon that some people have forgotten disney tries to make people forget but it is genuinely one of the best cartoons of the ninety s it had. In retrospect people don't realize just how many star trek actors were involved with gargoyles at one point. Jonathan frakes was a major character. David santos marina serta's was involved brent. Spiner was involved Avery brooks had a one off episode. I think patrick stewart had a few episodes in there to michael dorn played a major character as well cold steel. He was the brother or an antagonist of the main character. Goliath voest by keith david. And there's a lot of this is already been well documented on the internet already. But i just want to say if you never got the chance to go back to watch gargoyles or see the original pilot movie and the series that followed it. It's truly fantastic Heather did you watch. Did you know the star trek connection back in the day. I can't say that. I've ever watched gargoyles but i have heard many good things about it. Now that i'm an adult that everybody says it was amazing. And i wanna say i'm pretty sure they did. Put it on disney. Plus so i might have to go back and watch it but i did not watch it especially knowing the star trek connection. I would definitely go back and watch it now. Yeah definitely you should. It is in my opinion in its own. Unique way may be the most significant disney animated series of the nineties because it was so different from all of the other shows And it did amazing things. It incorporated shakespeare qu- inc mythology was kind of one of those first shows where you came up with the idea of what of all of these superstitions and myths were real and they kind of revolve around the gargoyles universe in manhattan and detective maza goliath and it was just just a fantastic show was a gem of ninety s animation. I've got one more heather. Another animated series. Do you have one more. do you have any others. I don't but i have something i want to ask. When you're done with your one more so okay you go first. This one is actually fairly recent. It was on cartoon network then moved to. Hbo matt's it got three seasons. Hopefully for a talked about it a few times in a couple of different places and it's called infinity train It's an animated series of where the concept is that there is a train in the protagonist and it can change from season to season his on this train and inside of each car on this train it is like a different world or a different universe. It's kind of like a different planet in star trek. It's almost kind of like that. You're going to a different place every episode Things become a little bit more serialized in they get into more of a story but infinity train had one character in its first and second season but predominantly in its first season. It was a cat. And then when i heard this cat like the voice just started to really stick in my head and i remember tweeting. This out is that kate. Mulgrew and wh-. I had known that hate mogo had been doing some voice work and of course she was on orange is the new black and it was dislike. I know that voice. I know that in she was playing this anthropomorphic hidden. Who is kind of a a row character. Not necessarily a good guy or bad guy but it was like that voice. That's kate mulgrew. I know it is. And then when i looked it up it was absolutely her. And it's kind of why. I've been tweeting a lot especially trekkies. Hey there's is really cool show on cartoon network in hbo. Max called infinity train one eight more cruise in it too. It's really good regardless And that's one that i would say is more recent both of my picks were animated but yeah infinity train. I think that one is really really good and hate mocha's in it so that's just an extra bonus. That is an extra bonus. Yeah the one thing. I wanted to add at the end of our discussion is that i mean when thinking about other stuff that star trek has been in especially especially with the new generation of star trek shows. Now we're now hitting the point. Where have you heard. Any show called the walking dead. Here's an equal martin. Green was in it. I don't know. Oh we're getting to the point where the actors that are now being cast in star trek where you can sit there and recommend stuff that you have seen them in prior to star trek. So on that note i just want to sit there and shout out to a bbc show called the musketeers. Which is exactly as it. Sounds is the story of those posts. Aramis and d'artagnan as the muskateers in france and san diego cabrera plays aramis and it is a really good show. It's only three seasons long. I think this seasons are on amazon prime. Now for those of you in the us so you can watch it on amazon. Prime definitely definitely check that out. Because that was where. I saw antioch cabrera before he ever got cast as rios in picard and he is fantastic. Do believe peter capaldi the great. Peter capaldi is admit show to is he not. He is in the first season because he played cardinal. Rubio if you know anything about the musketeers stories. One of the main villains of the musketeers and they ended up having to kill him off because it was a bbc produced show and he got cast. This doctor who he was going to go and star in another bbc producer show like he wasn't the main character of the show but he had a very large role and he just didn't have time to go so they killed him off after the first season but yes he's in the first season of it and he is fantastic as well. Let me put down in my notes. That's that's reason number two for me to check out musketeers. You said it was on amazon prime. Yes yes should be on amazon. I'll put that in the show notes to for everybody and anything with santiago cabrera. I'm always down for which is kind of what i was going to talk about a little bit in business when we. That's what they call the tease. Everybody jump into going to jump into new business with a maybe the worst kept secret in star trek fandom and the star trek community right now and that is the voyager documentary the indigo go Started by four five five productions Who were also responsible for what we left behind the ds. Nine documentary Have been working on funding with. They are now calling to the journey. Which will be the star trek. Voyager documentary and it is official. The campaign has broken one million dollars. Yeah all of the stretch. Goals have been reached with just a few days to spare. And this really rocketed wick. This this campaign started in hsun it was funded in almost no time so the stretch goals just kept going and going going and now they are the second highest documentary in indie gogo history of. Yeah this is pretty awesome. Heather is actually pretty awesome and they still have. What at least four or three days to go. So i i don't know what exactly the highest number is an indie gogo history but the camp is not over yet. They still have three more days to go so they could come close to that. I don't know very well. Could just to let everyone know on their original goal was one hundred and fifty thousand and smash that in the match that they smash that like night and then the stretch goals kept going through graphics. Voyager reunion The film will get extended There will be more. Hd footage for voyager and now it has passed one million there will be an exclusive never before seen voyager surprise. I wanna know the surprises. Now we billion. I wanna know if the prizes but i think it could be you know. I think it's something along the lines of. I honestly think it's going to be something like i know in the ds nine dock. They did like laid out their plans for season. Eat in the documentary. I think it's going to be something along the lines of what where are they now with the voyager characters because i know as much as i love and game i know a lot of people have issues with the fact that the voyager finale just ended right with them getting back to earth. And you don't get to see what happens with these characters and how they deal with being back in the alpha quadrant and being earth. So i think the special surprise might be used some sort of sit down with the creators and be like what would have happened to each of these characters after getting her a really like that idea but i speak for those of us out there. That did not like endgame. Because i am one of them I would hope or i would like then. Maybe somewhere deep down in the archives at viacom. Cbs paramount whoever that they actually had a reshot redone and day for star trek voyager. That maybe we saw them actually get to earth and maybe be welcomed back to the alpha quadrant. That's what i'm hoping for. And it would give voyager the ending that it deserves. In my opinion i think it would give voyager the ending that it should have had the first time around I do like your idea of sort of a voyager. Twenty years later twenty. Five years later i would love that up maybe even like a writer's room voyager season aid that would be cool. That would be cool. But i think that a solid voyager and game maybe like a snyder cut for for game. I don't know. I think that would be the way i'd like for an engine and hey i'm just going to throw it out there now that we've had the ds nine documentary now that we've got the voyager documentary we might need to call up the one crew and start working on that. Enterprise documentary is still got five more years for that. You're this year is the twentieth anniversary of enterprise and both these documentaries were to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary so they still got five more years. Start planning for back your time and in the next five years or so everyone should start sending joelene blaylock. Flowers just send her flowers and do whatever it takes to make sure. She knows that everyone loves her so we can get her to do the documentary too. But let's start that campaign now you know. I think as long as like she wouldn't have to see rick. Berman or brannon. Braga are in the same room with some. She'd be on board kenya. Now that's a whole nother conversation. Yes it is so we're gonna move into upcoming business and we're gonna talk about this book. That's coming out that i that i saw Star trek discovery. The book of grudge. This is courtesy of trek or author. Rob parliament will be taking his own interpretation of star trek discoveries third season and will be releasing a book from grudges perspective grudge of course being the cat that owns cleveland booker. Heather i'm going to ask you how you feel on this one. I love it. I am so ready for it. I have no idea what it's going to be like. But i will definitely be buying it. I loved the idea. And i love the fact that they are. Just weaning into grudges popularity and running with it. It's fantastic. i'm i really think it's a cool idea. And i don't know if you heard my theory on grudge when i was on weekly track that For for the prominent listeners. I was on weekly track with alex. Perry and this book came up. And i've been thinking about this for a while. We all know how book says grudge is a queen and i think that garage might actually be a queen from some sort of non humanoid frodo -cation cat like planet and grudge is actually queen. That that we just don't know about so. It would not surprise me to see rob perelman write this book from the perspective of a queen of a planet looking down on these humans so essentially at essentially what it would be. Yeah i i mean you know. There's been a lot of theories floating around like that. That grudges some sort of alien. And i are. Yeah i can see it. I would not be kentucky really unhappy if they confirmed something like that but also as the crazy cat lady myself no matter what even if she's just regular cat she's queen so okay so out of all of the characters to get a book. It's grudge and this was a great question. Came from you heather. M. i would love to hear from everyone out there too so please let us know at prompt trek pod on twitter or even send us an e mail. Romina trek pod at gmail.com. Let's let's open up the inbox and in sinister an email on that when if you like but at prompt trek pot on twitter as good to Heather i'll ask you because i was thinking about this one. I'm still not totally sure. But i think i've got one in mind aside from grudge if there was a star trek there that you would like to see. Have a book who would it be. I my immediate answer. And i love the fact that they've been doing this Especially with the newer discovery. Novels and Picard show novels that they have in the works and have have put out so far. But my immediate answer would be a discovery. Era novel sets us kind of as a prequel to discovery for obvious reasons Focusing around real katrina gordon. Well oh that's a great choice. Would you have her as starfleet admiral or would you like to see her as like a because she was a doctor and a ship's counselor i would probably love to see more of her background in history so like her in the timeframe where she was a doctor in a ship's counselor and how she transitioned from that in being an admiral. Yeah that's really good. That's a really really good choice. I really liked that a lot because there was a lot to do with her. And i love that. They gave her even some of the story that she was a doctor. She was a ship's counselor before she moved over to being command officer and became an admiral. That's like she was really cool. And i absolutely loved jane brooks's performance. I thought she was just outstanding. That is has a great great choice for me. I would have said that. It would be chris rea's but he is getting a book he already. Yes that's that's one for me. I would also say it would have been roffe But imagine she's probably going to get one too so it made me think it made me think i would kind of like to see now. I'm drawing a blank. I was going to say rough that that would have been my next choice. Because i feel like. I've said this on a couple of podcasts. Before i feel like with star trek picard both roffe and rio's have so much story that we don't know anything about yet. We've only scratched the surface with both of them. And i want more of those two in the worst way when it comes to star trek picard. I wanna see or or find out about their starfleet careers. Both of them. I want to see how rios dealt with the death of his captain and what he went through in. He got to and got that ship. I wanna see what roffe has done with her life after be issues with romulus and her battles with addiction. Her battles with family. I want to see her. Starfleet career wanna see all of those things from those too. So i'm gonna go with roffe from star. Trek picard as my choice for a book because the rio's book is already on. its way. yeah. I mean from what i've read. The rio spoke. Looks like it's going to cover a lot of that. Like what happened with the death of his old captain which i'm looking forward to now on the subject of roffe have you read the first star. Trek picard tien novel. The last best. Hope i have not okay because It basically gives you a lot more detail on a lot. More context about a card and roffe Relationship like how they first met and how he invited her to be his second in command while working on the romulo relocation and the stress that that put on her personal relationship and also how it kind of drove her to Some of her other struggles and it's part of why i look at season one of card in a different light after watching matt or after reading that because i there are certain things that i wish they would have touched on in season one of picard that they didn't really do very well because i think card really does roffe an apology for how he treated her during that timeframe when they were working on romulus together because she had She had no she had theory. She had all of the stuff that she was trying to put together about. How the romulus could be behind the attack on mars and he really dismissed her and he didn't recognize a lot of the warning signs that she was having issues with addiction and alcoholism and things like that and they show that in the book and i just sat there and read that. And i'm going damn. That man owes her an apology. I don't feel like she got that in season one night when she thought she was dying. She sat there and professed how much she cared about him. An apology from him. He doesn't need to hear that from her. She serves from him. And i still haven't gotten that yet. So i'm a little frustrated on that point but Yeah i'd love to hear more about roffe but the card oser some big words. I still hope we'll come big agree. That's that's just another thing. We can look forward to in in star trek the future which makes me happy. We have things in star trek to look forward to and that is so so cool. Every time i do this. Podcast ed were wrapping up. I just think to myself man. We still got a lot of star trek to look forward to like right now as recording this In spring of twenty twenty one shows are in production. So we're in kind of a holding pattern. Where were stretching out the content as best we can but we at least know that we have things to look forward to heather. And that's that's so cool. Oh yes definitely there are. There are things coming and so we're just finding stuff to get excited about along the way before they get here but there are plenty of things coming might be a long road getting from their here to there but i i'm looking forward to it Heather thank you so much for doing another prominent merchants podcast with me. Thank you all for listening. Heather to tell everybody what you got going on. I know you've got a few things. Well yeah i i mean. We've got things in the fire. Things happening there might be me on a new episode of fanta policy coming this week which you will be editing round to recording it But also next week we're gonna have a special episode of prominent mertens where we're leaving the promenade and headed to the mean streets of new york city to leave the galaxy behind and talk about some real world stuff and My favorite topic will in order. Svu so thank you for doing that with me. Oh my pleasure i like. Sp you too. I'm looking forward to it. And i'm gonna throw out another crazy when we do that. Episodes so stay tuned for that. Next week everybody will be non canon episode side story versions so be sure to check that out might even have a guest two so stick and stay tuned for that okay and as always everybody follow heather at nerdy gal. Thirty three on twitter. Never apologize for being nerdy and thank you for listening to the prominent merchants podcast. We like star trek here. We hope you like star trek to and if you do subscribe to the podcast in your pod. Catcher of choice. Look for by name where the promenade merchants. That's on stitcher. That's on amazon music. That's on google music. That's in spotify. That is wherever podcast can be aggregate yet so for heather. I'm david thank you for listening. Walk with the prophets. Live long and prosper. Enjoy your double regino. Extra sweet cut out the sugar layoff on that Enjoy wharfs hollow sweet exercise program. And we'll talk to you next time.

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9 Things I Don't Buy Anymore

The Good-Hearted Podcast

20:54 min | 3 weeks ago

9 Things I Don't Buy Anymore

"You're listening to the goodhearted. Podcast a show that helps you deconstruct your old ways of thinking and inspires you to love the truest of yourself. I'm morgan anderson. I'm a writer. A mother and a mental health advocate. I'm here to guide you on your self love journey. I love offering you encouragement to be the bad ass. You are every single week in these episode. You'll also hear powerful conversations. I have with other good hearted people that will give you a different perspective in leave. You inspired life is hard. I don't think we have to take it too seriously. So throw your hair up your earbuds in and let's get to work. Hello and welcome to another episode of the goodhearted podcast. One really big way. I take care of myself is by not spending money on that. I think is stupid anymore ever since i became obsessed with instagram and pinterest. I started buying all kinds of things that i definitely did. Not need in. Most of the time didn't even want. I just didn't take the time to ask myself if i should be buying it. I would see that someone else had some kind of fun cup or you know that my kids would not be complete without some kind of farmhouse sign or wreath or something like that. So i saw that kelly at but first coffee on youtube video like this and i loved it and i actually thought that i had some unique things. I don't buy anymore. So thank you to her for the inspiration for this so a few years ago. When i got really serious about decluttering i was not about to bring random shit into my house after i did so much work to get rid of things so he started being much more mindful of what i was purchasing. And if i would have a home for it. And i was really kind of getting stingy with my money and wanted to stop spending it on things that i would just get rid of in a couple of years or months and like i talked about an episode. Twenty three going on vacation is a big priority for my family. It was really weird. Not going anywhere the year of twenty twenty because usually we like to take long weekend trips that are just like a five hour drive away or at least spend the day and columbus cincinnati and then we also tied to at least a week long trip every year somewhere new or somewhere that we really enjoyed in the past so i wanted to stop spending my money on stupid random things and instead put it towards bigger things like that that would be more of an experience a thing that we could go and have fun and it wasn't bringing shit into my house. My biggest weakness used to be the clearance section. I would spend so much time going through every single item every piece of clothing. Trying to see if i can make anything work. Even if it was broken and like a dollar fifty i would be like. Oh i can fix this. I have the perfect home florence. Or like i can make it work. Even if there's a stain or something's missing from the shirt like something like that i would just buy it because it was on sale in hopefully not the only one. That's fallen into that trap before that just because it's on clearance seems like it's a good deal on you have to have it but then really what would happen is i would buy those things out almost immediately feel guilty about it and then it would sit in my closet hidden away in shaheem for months years however long i will let it sit there and it would never be touched again and then finally when i would purge i would get rid of it so now instead of being like some kind of cat on the per when i'm in the clear at section just looking for anything that will do i much more strategic. I try to not touch anything. If i can help it. I tried to just browse or look for something. Very specific for instance. If i'm looking for shoes for harper or a black top for me. Because that's normally all i wear. I will only look at those things instead of looking through every single item. And i try to make it as quick as possible. I try to just go right through it. Because i also get really upset when i waste my time like four our vacation to florida i ended up going to some alamos near us. And you know just supposed to be relaxing. Saturday morning dylan was hanging out with harper. I got to go shopping right. It should be fun no by the end. I was pissed. Because i didn't find like any of the things i was looking for and i was thinking i could have searched for this all online from home and then done nothing like instead i had to drive all the way out here had all over the place search. All of these different stores not find what i was looking for. So i'm just over wasting my time in the clearance isle and honestly even like tj maxx. Sometimes which i do. I still love. Tj maxx but. I just go through it really quickly. I don't spend hours in that store. Like i used to a long time ago. Just lately i've been not wanting to waste a lot of time or money. Those things are both very precious to me. I want to protect them. And so i just tried to do what makes the most sense which is normally like sitting on the couch with a glass of wine and searching for something specific from a specific store probably target maybe amazon and just getting thing delivered to my door and i don't even have to get out of my pajamas or make arrangements for harbor so now i want to get into this specific items that i don't buy anymore. The first thing is lighters. So these are things i used to buy all the time because i have lots of candles and so i would get the really long wise fuel and all that and i would have to buy two packs every time that i did because i would go through them so quickly. Now i don't have as many kennels us to burning because have a kid who can like get to almost everything now and so i don't have them on like every single surface like i used to But i still have candles. I love to light. So i found these rechargeable lighters in. I love them. It's definitely weird like you. Turn it on right and you plug it in to charge it. And then it's like a little torch his career smoking. I was definitely feeling guilty about all of the plastic lighters. I was going through every year. And i actually saw my friend. Destiny star had found one of those. I will link her instagram in the description And i was like oh my gosh. That is brilliant. So i have two of them now and i think i'm going to get them as christmas gifts or something like that. Because it's such a nice little thing to have it's rechargeable. I haven't had any issues with it. So it's definitely a win for me to have less waste and we love. Something that's rechargeable. Next is books. So you guys have heard me talk about renting books from the library. Listening to audio books on libby. I love doing that. So i do not buy full price books like ever anymore when i got back into reading. I did buy a couple books from half price books in there. Actually back there and based on the reviews i knew that they were wants i would likely read again and so i got be treed The honeymooners and then people you me on vacation. So those are the only three books that i've purchased in the past year and a half price books so they were at a discount But every other book that i've read has been free from the library and either a physical book and e book or an audio book. And at this point. I've read about twenty books this year which is humongous for me. Like i've never read that many books like ever in my life like maybe i had read twenty books from the beginning of my life until twenty twenty up to this point to if i had to borrow those books in order to read them. I know i wouldn't have done it. So when i finally started renting from the library i realized i could put books on hold. I just have to like walk in and grab it. Because before i was like i'm going to have to search for those books. I don't even understand how library works. Wouldn't know how to find the section. I wanted and even during the pandemic they were bringing books out to your car if you weren't comfortable going inside but they also have like libby at different local libraries. That will let you rent e books and or audio books. And i just think that's great because like who is ever going to reread an e book or audio book like maybe you will. That's fine but for the most part i consume at once. I'm done and even if i want to do it again. Like just rented again in. It's no big deal. So i just feel like that is such a great resource so if you feel like he's been a lot of money on books or you are leery to start reading books because you feel like you're going to have to dump a bunch of money into it. Don't worry check out your local library. I promise they will have some kind of website or maybe an app that will make it super easy for you to get those books and just get to enjoy them without spending money and then feeling guilty. If like you didn't even like it. The next thing i don't buy anymore is purses i used to be the girl that bought so many purses and i still felt like my friends bought more than i did but i would still buy a couple every year. I felt like i needed a different one for each season. And sometimes i would even change them out to like match. My outfit and i was actually talking to one of my mom friends about this the other day and she was like. Isn't it amazing. How now like all you need is your phone in your wallet. And that's hit like you go with your diaper bag. Only when you absolutely have to and none of yourself is in there where used to. We carried like these big toe purses that had. I don't know snacks. Chapstick chargers lipstick. Like i don't even. I don't even know what i used to keep in those big purchases so now i literally have one black cross body purse. That i got at tj maxx. That is like steve madden. And i use that purse all the time i love it i used to think you know. I need that in like a tan or something like that. No all i wear is black angry. Basically so black goes with everything and if it doesn't go with something. I just won't take it like i'll literally just take my phone with me and maybe my debit card. It is so nice to not be spending money on purses because they changed style so quickly. And plus i just personally don't need one. Some people definitely need purses. I don't and the ones that i have. Actually i think i got rid of all of my purses except for that. Small black one. Now i think about it. I do have a couple of risk slits and wallets. But i will probably go through those soon as well because i just don't use them anymore. It's basically like it's either the diaper bag or that black cross body person. That's all i use. So i also don't buy planners anymore that is as of like the last couple months because i even bought some at the beginning of this year knowing damn well i was not going to use them because i am the girl who's like okay. I'm motivated. i'm gonna like map everything out. I need to read it out. I need to see it. And then i will keep using this tool because it's going to keep me on track and that's what's going to actually make my goals happen and then i sit here. I have three planners back here that have been written for two days. Maybe my life is just not set up for paper planner or maybe it's my personality type. I don't know. I feel like i need it to get organized but doesn't work. What works for me is digital. So i keep everything in trillo for my business which is amazing. I love it. It's perfect i use scheduling apps for my social media. I use my google calendar for any personal things like. I don't need a paper planner anymore. So it's something that i'm like bitch. You gotta stop buying them because you don't use them they don't work for you and back in my episode with alex. Perry where she did my birth chart reading. She literally brought that up. She was like you feel the need to have all these things to keep you organize but none of those systems are working for you so like you need to figure out the system that works and so that is definitely something that i've worked on and said okay. I want to be the kind of person who uses a cute ask planner and can post pictures of it on social media. It's not me. And i have spent so much money. I'm fucking planners and i have not used them so i'm just accepting. I'm not a planner person. I'm not that cool. I guess. I don't know i need my life to be much more simplified. I needed to be streamlined. I need to be able to access everything my phone and my computer so keeping it online is how do that okay. Please don't feel personally attacked with this next one by no longer. Buy stuff from bath and body works. I know you're probably so disappointed in me. And i'm sorry for letting you down but it's kind of funny because when i was younger i could never buy bath and body works because all of their stuff dry my skin out like i've mentioned probably before i have extremely dry skin. It's very very sensitive and of course as like a preteen teenager. I got tons of gift cards for birthdays or graduation parties or christmas or whatever that was for bath and body works in. My mom would literally buy them off me because even though i love how the product smelled it tore my skin up. I literally could not buy them. And so once i was an adult. It seemed like my skin was asked sensitive so i started buying their body wash and it was. It was a wonderful time but the lotion still seem to irritate me. And over time. I was like i'm spending so much money on body wash and it's really not even doing anything for my skin. I think it really was drying me out more. I just didn't want to admit it. Because i love having something that was good smelling for once instead of all the nonsense head like lotion kind of body. Wash where all of my other girlfriends had like. Really nice cintas stuff and i could never use by also used to love their candles and i will. I will still get any blueberry shit that they make. I love their blueberry pancake. Candle at is like my absolute favorite and the pumpkin waffle. I think or pumpkin pecan waffle or something like that very good. I love their false sense. So if i can get the three wit kendall on sale for like ten dollars or less. I will get those bad boys. But only in those two cents. But i won't buy anything else there anymore. Because i just i spent so much money on it when there's a good sale and then i ended up not enjoying the product so instead now i buy method foaming hand soap from walmart or target and i can refill those bottles in those actually smell. Really good too and you get a little bit more in the container. The new bath and body works once. I also use my own set lotion now. Because that's all that works for me like all the senate stuff just it drives me out. Can't do it. And i'm back to using my good old dove nourishing body wash. That doesn't smell like anything but it's been good for me. I haven't been spinning excess money on things that then i feel guilty about and i use like out of guilt or try to re gift. Because i'm like you don't bitch like you knew this was going to break you out. Why did you buy it. And then as far as candles go. I love buying once from tj maxx. That are the i think. It's the d. n. w. brand. It's like my absolute favorite. Those are usually the only ones that you've been. Buy from tj maxx. But if i see those august those. Because i feel like they smell better longer than even the bath and body works ones. Do so in a cheaper so win-win okay. I just have a couple more things on this list. So i don't buy gift bags or cards anymore. So i will reuse gift bags that i have received so either. Somebody gave me a gift or gave harper gift. I had that bag. I'll reuse that and instead of getting an actual card. I will either right on the tag. That's on the bag or make my own tag or even better. I'll get like if it's for can get them a book and that will serve as the card in all right some kind of little no in it. If i don't have a gift bag that i can reuse all get one of the reusable tote so they sell these at tj maxx joanne's walmart like literally so many places have them now in tons of different cute patterns. and so. I love to do this at christmas time. I'll stock up on some of the smaller reasonable totes. That have christmas patterns on them. And i love using bags for christmas gifts. I know people probably loved tearing into like a wrapped gift. But i'm just all about as little waste as possible and as little clutter as possible. So if i can give somebody a gift in like one of the cardboard boxes that have some kind of like print on it. You know cnn or some shit. Like i would rather give them that in them. Not be able to unwrap it. Then have to also wrap that gift and all that so maybe that selfish. I don't know but to me it's a little less waste and it's less should i have to keep in my closet for one time of the year in some people love cards. I still love getting cards but are hard because when you get them you want to hold onto them forever. You put them on your fridge. You have to display them. You don't want to get rid of it because somebody wrote a really meaningful note and they can be so appreciated by people. But for me. I would rather have a meaningful conversation with them than to write in a card although i love writing and i feel like it is one of my gifts. I'm still better at talking. Like i'm when it comes to connecting with somebody. I love and that i know really closely. It's better for me to have a conversation with them. So i would rather do that. And they don't feel like they have to hold onto my card forever and for super special occasions. I probably will do a card still like all of these things. I'm sure i will end up buying them at some point but in general these are things i choose not to buy. So when you're doing a wedding gift or something and you're doing cash like obviously you need a card because like what else are you gonna put it in But if i'm getting a gift. I try not to use the card again less. Waste less pressure on that person to keep that card so again just me personally. I also don't buy disposable razors anymore. I used to use those constantly like. Because i loved having a fresh blade. I loved the style of this particular disposable one But actually dylan started getting the harry subscription and then he liked grew his beard backout so i use the harry razors and i love them. I love having just to be able to put a new blade on. So it's like almost kind of disposable but it was definitely cheaper than how much money i used to spend on all of my disposable razors and the last thing we don't buy and i say we because this is normally like a joint decision is anything that has to be financed so this is just like our general rule. We do not like to make payments on things we have paid cash for both of our vehicles and for all of our house projects The only thing we've had to finance since we bought this new house was the hvac system because it was like thirty or forty years old and so like we needed a new ac unit. A new water heater a new furnace and like dowa something we were not at all prepared to pay for so we did have to finance that but as a rule thumb if we have to make payments on it we do not buy it. We wait until we can save up to buy it. And that has saved us a lot when it comes to interest and also it's just made us really take the time to think about that purchase and decide if it was right for our family or not versus just going out and buying something and putting it on the credit card or something like that so it's just helped us to be more mindful. Of course everybody gets in a pinch and sometimes you have to finance things and i totally get that and again we have done that. We will probably do it in the future but usually we try not to do that so that was all of my things. I don't buy any more that i could think of for this episode. I'm sure unlike a year. I could probably do this again. And come up with some other things that i didn't have on this list But i hope that you enjoy this episode. It was definitely a little different. But i do think it is so important to take care of ourselves to take your money to protect our bank account and all of those things that we want in life instead of dislike like nickel and diming it away on stupid shit at target so. I hope that this episode was helpful for you. I hope it inspires you to maybe stop buying something like not necessarily something on this list for something. That's just not serving you anymore. Something that doesn't make you happy. That just makes you feel guilty or like you are just annoyed like did i even buy that. Why tempt myself with that. So i hope that this inspires you to save some of your money that you would have spent on that on something that you will actually really enjoy. Thank you so much for listening today. I'll talk to you my next episode. Thank you so much for listening in today. 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Taking Care of Yourself Part 1

The Good-Hearted Podcast

27:47 min | 3 months ago

Taking Care of Yourself Part 1

"This is the goodhearted podcast on your host morgan anderson. The best thing we can do is take care of ourselves so often we show up for everyone around us but we rarely take time to show up for ourselves. We get burn out depressed in overwhelmed doing everything for everyone and we're just too damn tired to take care of ourselves. I just saw take the other day. Of course like everything. I find is on tiktok nowadays but it really got me thinking about this topic. The video essentially showed the difference between filling everyone else's cup a little bit but then you had nothing at the end to put into your own cup verses filling our own cup so much that it poured into everyone else's cup at first. I was kind of annoyed when i saw this video. I just wanted to blew it off. I kinda rolled my eyes. And i thought yada that'd be nice but that's far from realistic but ever since i saw it it's been in the back of my mind. What if i filled my cup so much. It was bound to pour into everyone. Else's it's a fascinating concept and i thought it would be a really good topic for an episode. Because they really do thing. It's so important for us to take care of ourselves. And i feel like self care has become a buzzword an overused and you know trivial things are referred to and marketed as self care now but i really wanted to dig into how we can take care of ourselves that way. We are ready in recharged and able to take care of everybody in our life as on us but not feel drained because of it no matter how you identify or what your life looks like right now. I'm sure there have been times in the past when you could no longer be there for the people in your life. That really needed you because your mind or body just shut down due to overwhelm and or stress or you at least couldn't be there in the way that you wanted to be so. Let's all make an effort to take better care of ourselves so that way we're not letting ourselves down most importantly and then we can still take on our regular responsibilities and do all the things that we normally do to keep things moving and running in our lives before we totally dive into this topic. I have a quick announcement that i am so excited to share with you. I just launch my patriot on. I am so pumped for this patriotic group like you have no idea. And if you're not familiar with patriotic it's essentially a platform that allows you to support your favorite creators and really. It's just like a bad ass exclusive club where you can get contact. You can't get anywhere else so right now. Just my first patriarch. Tier is live. It's only two dollars. It's a monthly subscription. And it will help me keep this show going. It's a great way to support me. If you love the goodhearted podcast and in june i will be releasing my other patriots tears and those will have the exclusive content just for my supporters. So i can't give too much away at the moment but there will definitely be some live video events at least with quite a few other things so stay tuned for more information as june gets closer. June is my birthday month. And so you know. I always have good surprises for the month of june. So if you want to check out that two dollar tier you can head to patriotdepot dot com slash hearted podcast or you can just search for goodhearted podcast if you already have the petri on app and then right there you can sign up to support the podcast this. I am so thankful for you and truly you are the person that i'm doing this for another great and free way to support. The podcast is just by sharing it with people who think would enjoy it. I think this episode in particular would be a great one to share with someone in your life. Because i'm going to share some really good tips for taking care of yourself and we could all be doing that better. So send this episode to a friend who needs to hear it needs the gentle reminder to take care of themselves and i will be eternally grateful for you. Okay now. let's get into today's topic how to take care of yourself. The idea of making myself a priority sounds so selfish to me for most of my life. I've put everyone else. I quite honestly. It's exhausting i volunteered. So much of my time. Sacrifice things in my personal life and in my business and worst of all i've let my mental health decay. I don't regret most of the decisions. I've made in the past because they've got me where i am today but that doesn't mean take an easier path if i had a second chance when i don't show up for myself i ended up committing to a lot of things i don't want to. I live in a fog. And i become disconnected with my friends and my family. When you're already overworked and exhausted you don't even want to do something for yourself because it feels like even more work. I don't like living this way. But it's so easy for me to fall back into this unhealthy rhythm over and over again and feel like i can't shake it. I lived through a very hard season that lasted for a few years. When i decided to close my wedding photography business i felt so lost so much of my identity was wrapped up in being a business owner and a wedding photographer. I knew that wasn't the right path for me anymore. The each time. I tried something new. It just didn't fit quite right. I felt very disconnected in a lot of ways. I didn't know what i wanted out of my life. I didn't feel like i fit in with my business or my personal friends. My life felt stale in meaningless. I stepped away from photography business. Because i told myself. I couldn't do it. I had feel too many times. And i wasn't worthy of photographing another wedding. This is when depression said in for me for the first time at least the first time that i realized it being a wedding. Photographer is so fucking stressful. There are so many unrealistic expectations for photographers. And even if the entire day goes to shit you're expected to deliver dreamy photos and cram thousand pinterest poses into the very generous twenty minutes sought. You've been given if you're lucky. I could go on and on line but it was simply too stressful for me. I'd also like to give a quick. Psa be nice to your photographers. Don't make them eat the gross ventre meal and sitting janitorial closet while eating it. And yes that has happened to me. But i digress. I was tired of people asking me to work for less money. Being underappreciated and working nearly every weekend in most evenings and i was still broke although it was good for me to step away from this career at the moment it felt like a very bad thing. I would never recover from shortly after. I closed my business in january of twenty nineteen. I miscarried my first baby. I was absolutely devastated and crushed. My depression had already been teed up just waiting for the right moment to unleash its full potential and it took me the fuck out. I was so sad when it happened. But the depression didn't really sink in and take hold until about two weeks later. When the realization hit dylan. I that we were never going to meet that baby. We had dreamed about in talked about for the last month when i found out i was pregnant with harper and april of two thousand nineteen. I really struggled with prenatal depression. I was scared to get attached to her. Thinking i inc said or i'd lose her. I felt like i was betraying the baby. I lost when i started getting excited. And loving her. And then i also felt bad for her. That i was holding back. It was just a very messy and confusing time in my life then came the postpartum depression on top of the nightmare. That was twenty twenty. My point is that since two thousand eighteen. I haven't been able to show up for myself. Well i was defeated deflated hanging on by the tiniest thread people who were close to me saw me losing my filter. Not being the ray of sunshine. I used to be an took me enforcing boundaries as me being a bitch but what they didn't realize was that i was just doing my best to survive and i really wasn't doing it. Well i decided twenty twenty. One had to be different no matter how much my anxiety or depression was getting to me. I was going to try my damndest to beat it or die trying. I'm sharing all of this with you so that you don't think i'm just saying do these things in your life will be perfect or drop everything you're doing and start showing up for yourself. I know better than most. That's just not possible. Sometimes if you're in survival mode take this episode with a grain of salt revisit it. You're in the mental space to receive it. I really need to come up with a different way of saying. Give yourself greece. Because i feel like it's so overused but that's essentially what i'm saying. Give yourself permission to sit. And whatever you're dealing with right now if you have the energy to do even one thing i'm going to suggest to take care of yourself college win. We need to start celebrating the things we do to put ourselves i even when it seems insignificant. Because it's not. It's actually really brave and admiring when you put yourself first and take care of yourself now that i've preface this episode with the love and grace we need to get through it. I want to talk about how. I've started showing up for myself in taking care of myself the last few months. I don't do all of these things perfectly. I usually don't to be honest. But i'm doing the best i can. And that's all we can do some days taking care of yourself is essentially self care but not in the generic thinking when you show up for yourself. This is a deliberate practice. You're doing in the sole purpose is to take care of yourself. It seems simple. Put on a face mask. Listened to an uplifting podcast. Go get your nails done but often we don't do anything to actually take care of ourselves because i fallen into the toxic rhythm of overwhelm and stress many times in my life. I'm learning to prioritize taking care of myself in big and small ways for this episode. Iv compiled a list that contains these things. I hope some of them resonate with you or make you think of a way that you can take care of yourself. First things first. You have to get rid of shit if you've been following me for a while you know that i'm now addicted donating things and gasp throwing things away. A big source of stress for me has always been seeing clutter in my home. Our first home was so tiny. It felt like nothing had a home. I began parting with things that no longer served me or i was hanging onto out of some sort of weird guilt. Some things were hard to get rid of and some things were really easy and it was nice to have less stuff around my house. Also i am the queen of receipts. So now i try to opt out of them or say that i don't want them throw them away immediately or at least as soon as i've decided that i'm keeping whatever i've purchased because i'm also terrible about buying things returning them because i regret it later. I also third junk mail and coupons out immediately. Unless i know we will definitely use them. If not the coupons just clog up my drawer for months passer expiration date. I keep out of season clothes in a separate closet because it stresses me out when mine is bursting at the seams. We've reduced the amount of things that we have in our kitchen to pretty much. Just what we need our wall decor is pretty minimal. And i one hundred percent okay with that clearing out. The things that i see in my house keeps me from feeling over stimulated and frustrated when there's things to pick up number two do the inner work. This is high up on the list because it's so damn important when you're depressed anxious or manic it feels impossible to crawl out of your whole. Do any work on yourself. This is something you can do a little bit at a time when it feels good once. You've decluttered your home. I think it's easier to move onto this step because the reminders of chores and obligations almost always trump the struggles. Going on in your mind. Like if i want to rest and go sit on the couch for a little bit if i see a mess or dishes that need to be done or something like that. I always tend to do a chore versus actually taking time to rest journal do something. That's good for mental health. So i just want to say it again. Doing the work is important in. It is key to moving on and taking care of yourself. This might be good news or bad news for you. But you're the only one who can prioritize your mental health. The people around you can support you in ways that are helpful but you have to do the work to nurture your own mind. I will always recommend doing some self discovery work. I in episode eleven. I talk all about this. And i didn't instagram live about it a few weeks ago. Doing a self discovery practice regularly can help you really check in with yourself and work on whatever needs mending. I want to encourage you to really set some time. Aside to acknowledge all of your hopes fears trauma struggles. And even your victories give yourself the space to explore these things. Be honest with yourself. Even if it's scary can you pinpoint the root of your overwhelming zayed's or depression are there any clear signs. Can you be honest with yourself and admit what you need to. You need help from a doctor or a therapist. Do you need more support from friends or family. You need help getting out of an abusive relationship. All of these secrets can live on a piece of paper or a note in your phone. If you'd like when you're ready take action on one of these things. I have been on antidepressants for just over a month. Now and i can't believe how things have changed for me. I'm not sure. I want to be on medication. Manage my anxiety and depression forever. But what i do know is i was drowning with my head barely above water and i just needed the chance to fucking breath and i'm so thankful to have that right now. Now that i've been on this medication to help level me out of that constant buzzing and fog in my mind. I'm able to see dirty dishes on the counter and not drop everything to do them. When i have a thousand things that need to be done. I'm now better at prioritizing. What is actually important. I can trust that. I will get to the things on my list eventually and i'm okay with that. Which is very weird for me. I am so glad that now. I can just brush off and go on with my day when something less than ideal happens in. It doesn't ruin my life. The past few years have taken such a toll on my mind and body that i feel so relieved to not have to constantly manage my anxiety on my own. If you need to start medication to take care of yourself there is absolutely no shame in that you probably know at least five people in your personal life who are also on similar medication because everyone is so fucking stressed right now. If therapy would be a good option for you give it a go. I've been dragging my feet on this. Because i'm just not sure how i can fit it into my life right now but it's something i want to do in the future to me. Finding and committing to therapists seems very overwhelming in a very big time commitment. But i've always heard really good things from people who have worked to find a therapist. That's a good fit for them. And that they connect with and i think you can find validation hope and healing in therapy and i can't wait to start mine number three. Ask for what you need. I know it's really uncomfortable to ask for. Thank you need if you're anything like me if you're a natural giver you probably rarely ask for things because you don't want to be a burden to somebody else and i think this is because you know what it feels like to be taken advantage of. It fucking sucks. You tell yourself if i don't ask things other people people will stop asking things of me and i'm sad to say that's just not true. Some people are natural takers in steamrolled givers in their life. I don't think these people do intentionally. At least most of the time. Hopefully i do think it's easier for people who are considered more of takers to ask for what they need in clear and concise ways. Because it's just simple. It is what it is. They need something and so they're not afraid to ask for it if you feel awkward or uncomfortable asking for what you need. Just ease into it. I've definitely been there. If you need your village to step up express you need help with the kids to get stuff done even if that stuff is an app if your boss keep scheduling you for a day of the week that you've told them over and over again you aren't available. Put something in writing stating that. You cannot work that day and hold your boss at to scheduling you according to your ability if you're the friend that always hosts and always provides all of the food for game night till your friends what you need from them for future game nights. Do you need to host every other game night. How much food should the other people contribute. Would it be easier if they just brought drinks. What can they do to take a little bit of the stress in work off of your plate since they're all going to be enjoying your home in your hosting you're collaborating for your business and the other party is asking way more of you. Then you are comfortable state that you need more compensation more time or that. You need to remove something from your workload for the project. Even though givers enjoy helping the people in their lives it can be to their detriment. Sometimes if your friends and family truly love you the last thing they want is for you to kill yourself trying to please them number four prioritize what is important to you prioritizing. What is important to me has been hugely. I really had to take some time to sit down and think about what the hell was even important to me anymore so much. My day is filled with chores and responsibilities and a lot of monday things things that are urgent in the moment like a diaper change or doing a load of laundry. Because we don't have any clean masks but these things are important to my mental health so after sitting down with these thoughts i talked with dylan and told him that. I didn't feel like my work was a priority. Neither of us were treating it like it was. It was something i squeeze into my day. If i had the time and energy this led to me being stressed and frantic trying to get work done answering. Dmz or recording a podcast. When i really wasn't in the mental space to do so then. I'd spend the weekend creating social media post or editing podcast episodes one perk in one major downfall to being your own boss is creating your business hours and not being a lazy employees so told dole and i needed to schedule my work hours because it off the cuff was just not working. I only have about ten hours a week to work on my business. If i'm lucky and i really rely on harper taking two hour naps each day to get some of this work done but that doesn't always happen so i have to reserve time on tuesdays and thursdays in the evenings to do my work but by scheduling this time. I'm making my business a priority. So is there something that you can start prioritizing in your life. Do you need to schedule some time to work to play to rest. Is there something you can do regularly to make yourself feel good. This can look like the more traditional self care. Would you like to get your nails done. Every three weeks or every two weeks or about a monthly massage a quarterly weekend getaway. You feel better when you do minimal hair and makeup and get dressed every day. Would you like an hour to decompress at the end of the day or would a morning routine be more beneficial for you. Once you narrow down what helps you really rest in recharge start prioritizing these things save the money to pay for those things believe that it's not a waste of money book. The appointments implement the routine. You work hard. You deserve this self care number five at magic to your day. You guys know that. I love magic. I love all things disney. All things we do and spiritual. I am here for the magic and i'm all about infusing it into my daily life since my antidepressants have kicked in and helped level me out. I'm really trying to stop living in survival mode because it's draining to me. Adding a little magic to my day has been so fun and really really good for me. When i took the time to actually think about it. I realized i could do a few things to make being a stay at home. Mom during a pandemic way more enjoyable in theory. I think most people think it's the dream to be a stay at home mom or that. It's totally boring but let me tell you. It is far from boring. It can definitely be lonely isolating and draining but it's not boring. There's never a dull moment with a toddler running around some days. I still feel those kind of dark and sad feelings. Because of the little bits of magic that i've infused most of my days feel late back but productive restful and fine if you're looking for literal magic consider starting your day with an oracle reading. I know i know. I just lost you but this is a brand new practice that i'm doing and it's just for fun. It's a little way to start my day with intention. And to get a nudge or motivation from the universe. If that's not your thing that is totally fine. There are tons of apps out there that are encouraging and also a great way to start your day. I love the shine app. And i will definitely get in the show notes. It specifically for coming anxiety and stress and the app. You can set your intention for the week and there are various meditations and little bits of motivation. It's an amazing resource and a great way to start your day. I've talked about this before. But i wanna make my morning coffee special. I worked at tim. Horton's in high school and started drinking coffee at church long before that coffee has always been a big part of my life as funny as that sounds. When i was pregnant i hated it and stop drinking cold turkey. I'm not really sure how. I survived without it. But i was so glad. My version ended when i popped out harper as a new mama. I needed all the help i could get. Since then we've upgraded our maxwell house coffee for folger's but use the same generic french vanilla creamer every day and honestly it gets old especially when i drink about three cups of coffee a day. You can just all you want. But i will never stop drinking cups of coffee a day. The last time. I was at the grocery. I noticed the snickers creamer in it looked so delicious. I couldn't resist it. And i will just tell you it's fantastic. It felt like such a treat to have a yummy like chocolate caramel coffee in the morning. And yes it's probably more sugar and carbs. But i don't give a shit because it made me so happy a three dollars. Creamer put a smile on my face every morning that week because i was reminded of the little tiny thing. I did to try to have a better start to my day and worked. Oh this is a good one number. Six listened to music. So i also believe. Music is a form of therapy. I have different playlists for different moods. Sometimes i need a really good big cry. I think it's healthy for all of us to get those feelings out in cleanser system. I had a really good cry since around thanksgiving now i think about it so i'm probably due for one any day now. I literally have a playlist entitled feels and it has every single tear jerking song. I have a love hate relationship with and yes all too. Well is the most played on that playlist. If you're wondering. I have another one. That has all the hits from my high school days. That i listened to you before a record podcast when i need to get my head in the game. This one funds back memories of sweaty school dances driving around with the windows down and late night bowling or parties with my best friends. This one is very nostalgic for me. It's a lot of low wayne ludicrous. And it's perfect. I also have one that fills me with so much happiness. I nearly burst. It's my country playlist. This is also a static but more toward my childhood. It's what i listened to all summer. Long when i miss my dad or i just need to escape. Mike chaotic adult life. It's simple it's fun. it's absolutely freeing and this is a total tangent. But i think it will help prove my point. Recently i listened to the braving the wilderness book by brown and she brought up a memory that made me tear up. She was talking about being at a garth brooks concert with her sisters and close friends. They were having the time of their life and as they sang their heart out to call him baton rouge. They all started crying and listened to that song over and over again for weeks. She mentioned that she believes every song has a story in the story. i have. That's related to that. Song immediately came to mind and made me so emotional. In that moment. I remember it like it was yesterday. It had been a rough year the year i mentioned in the beginning of this episode. I had failed at one thing after another. And then i went to an ending. Honestly i felt. I had no business being at as a night went on my sister and i had kuwait lied if you margaritas and felt like we were the only ones on the dance floor and maybe we were. I don't know it's fussy then call in baton rouge by garth brooks blared through the speakers all of a sudden my sister and i were five and eight again holding hands swinging around the dance floor like we used to with our granny teaching us the steps in a dark old dancehall we screen the lyrics stomped our heels like they were boots and had the time of our lives. There were tears in my eyes by the end of the song. A feeling of relief washed over me. I was going to be okay. I could act like a child in this moment. If i needed to in anytime i'm scared or overwhelmed or i'm feeling like a failure. I can go back to win. Things were far from okay. But i could clearly see the light. I could find happiness in a bad situation. I could forget my responsibilities for an. I could be safe with my granny watching and my sister holding my hand just by turning on that song i listened to it every day for weeks after that in every summer. It's the one. I love playing the most with my windows down and my speakers popping and you can bet there will be tears in my eyes and a smile on my face. Sometimes i need this feeling. Maybe a few songs came to mind for you. Start a few playlists and collect songs that match a mood or a certain feeling for when you need them. Listen to the words soak in every note. Feel every feeling who go on shenault on that one. So i've decided to turn this into a two part series. Because i just have way too much for one episode so per to will be airing in a few weeks so keep an eye out for that. And i know that this particular episode might be information overload. So i want you to have the time to digest it before i go anymore. I will be going live on instagram on april twentieth at four thirty eastern standard time to continue this conversation. So please go over to instagram and hang out with me ask questions. I'd be so grateful to chat with you and dig into any questions that you have and don't forget to check out my patriot and get on. The email is for more announcements coming soon. I'm just saying it's going to be good. You don't wanna sit next week's episode is going to be my birth chart reading by alex. Perry of the perry rose academy. I am so stoked and a little nervous to share this with you but i guess you'll just know all my secrets by the end. Whatever so don't miss next week's episode and also be sure to check out alex on instagram again. She's at the perry rose academy and she also has a podcast called the perez report to be sure to check her out get familiar with her and then definitely listen to next week's episode. I also want to try out a new segment at the end of my episodes for those who like me and want to get to know me a little better. It's like the fun after party after the episode. So i'm going to answer funny and or awkward icebreaker questions so if you'd like to submit any icebreaker questions for me you'll be able to do that soon on patriot so just hold on for that one. So today's question. What is one fashion trend. You're glad went away. The obvious answer is low rise jeans those were my nemesis and middle school. I always felt like my ass crack was out because they didn't fit me right. Now that my stomach will never be the same again. Says i had a baby. It's only super ultra high rise up to my boobs genes for the rest of my life literally. I will not settle for anything less than that. Except for maybe a super high rise leggings. The maternity leggings are where it's at. Okay you will never change my mind. So thank you so much for listening today and i can't wait to talk to you my next episode. Thank you so much for listening in today. If you enjoyed this episode please be sure to subscribe an leave. 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A tale of two Camerons with Cameron Lenz.

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43:37 min | 1 year ago

A tale of two Camerons with Cameron Lenz.

"The security in this and that and people are dairy I can feel them staring even all right thanks for tuning in this hermit radio today I have a special guest another fellow Cameron Cameron thanks for being here I didn't really think anything of it I I was an athlete my whole life played baseball all the way through college without that's what I was supposed to do with my life but it turned into a situation where I had this yeah so okay let's talk tell us tell me about your your passion for music what got you started and how did that start to where you are songwriting music kind of came was somewhere between my senior year in high school in my Freshman Year of College but it was funny because so seventh grade around that time I think that I ended up getting a guitar for Christmas and but it wasn't until about my my senior year in high school it started out as poetry for a girlfriend at the time and but I I did notice that rhyming on paper towards towards music mainly instruments especially my grandfather's piano to young age but as I got older Always had this curiosity adamant so that's pretty much what I do appreciate it yeah it's crazy we we actually met at my work and tell me about yourself tell the listeners who you are in what you do yes so I'm a country artist songwriter will and basically I what he's about 'cause I think deep down you and I kind of have the same thing in mind we both we both want help people and help the world how's he had a electric guitar was plugged I picked it up kind of picked around on a little bit had no idea what I was doing but I remember going home and tell them my mom I wanNa Guitar and maybe not so much like superman but just in a sense that we want the world to be a better place Cama thank you right with us today man appreciate you joining the show yeah it's GonNa be fun okay so Cameron Lens go ahead in now yeah so I've always had a passion for music a month my mom with my parents really but my moms told me that at a young age I Kinda was just gravitate aw play music for people with one goal in mind and that is to make people feel something through music but I live in Nashville Tennessee and I'm pursuing that with everything as instruments if I didn't know how to play I wanted to pick it up and try and just kind of fascinated me and seventh grade I ended up going over to a friend's and we've had a great conversation this afternoon and I kind of hope that you guys listening to get a greater sense of WHO Cameron is trial experiment with it in put some stuff out on the Internet some some of my own stuff as well as recordings on apps like fine soundcloud and discovers country song that new and I loved it and had a blast and then eventually I decided to put the two together so that's where the one of my passion for was pretty easy for me and storytelling while ramming it really was it was pretty easy to meals front so I kind of put the two together I started playing a lot of songs this this vision and this passion and just this is when I tell people that story I tell him that there was a C- Planet in sodomy but best seven years ago I started going viral on it and it was at that point where I realized that my passion for music could actually become something I could pursue so it's pretty wild man it didn't end up being God just gave me this vision this dream that music was what I was going to do and I believed in it one hundred percent never once questioned it and so I started to kind of also wasn't on American idol so there was a competition that idol was doing and it was a competition through instagram and you would submit using a hat than I had originally thought I was going to end up pursuing until I kinda took a leap and let the world give me some feedback in for some reason people like what they heard we're on American idol for a little bit I was yeah I was about that yeah yeah so the funny thing was I was on American idol but tag and you do basically cover song that was nominated for C. May Award and then once you submit it three finalists with you picked and then they would record and it was my first time in New York that I could remember since I'd been real little and it snowed a lot a lot in one of US downtown in Nashville at Luke brands bar and then they would air that during the awards and then the whole country is watching vote and so I was finalist for that uh-huh men that's awesome yeah which I think the next part which talked about is that you if I experience that's awesome dude I remember when you were telling me about it I was so pumped for you no matter what happened because that's a big his air and the winner was going to be announced on Good Morning America but the unfortunate thing was the weather was pretty a pretty bad is the first official Snow Day in New York things are are cool but what I really like about you cameron is your your passion and connection with other people and you're not just doing this selfishly because you want to be the next big thing you actually I'd got had received that phone call that I was finalised pretty pumped but they just experienced all together it was unbelievable I mean I got treated like royalty from the minute is just I mean it was so cool to see myself on such a big stage and so I did not I didn't technically win the win got to be we were basically competing for the last didn't actually make it in on the flight so they ended up to Steph skyping in the winter and I wasn't a winner unfortunately but I was okay with that the experience was unbelievable Alex Perry still remember getting phone call I was actually in the parking structure outside of the gym that we both go to and and I wrote this down in my notes you WanNa have an impact on people's lives so do and and that's great dude like I want you to succeed Showing how many how many people can say they they know somebody that participated with American idol. I think that's a pretty cool thing but I want I mean those stepped on set to the actual airing during seem awards but I ended up as a finalists they they flew me out to New York to be on Good Morning America after the season what lit a fire in me and made me realize this I really can do and the overwhelming feedback from both friends of people I didn't know through all my social networks were you're going through there's something special about that and ever since I really realized how special music is I just want people to to be able to feel something and I want to be able to golden ticket to Hollywood so we would go pass the live around and go straight to Hollywood and a friend of Mine Megan ended up winning she's very talented and I was really happy for her but just overall I know that for me I've listened to songs well I mean I tell people this all the time but the one thing we do take for granted is music because you could be having the best day in the world or you could be because I know the world via better place if you succeed in people hear your music man I'm his Latvian but yeah that's that's my ultimate goal in mind the worst day ever whatever that might be music is always there there's always a song out there that is going to resonate with you exactly how you're feeling and there's something so we were talking about songs so tell us about your song nobody's home yeah so pretty sad is my first release I wrote it such an incredible thing because it's kind of unorthodox but yet it's also very organized so like you know I myself I released in February twenty eighteen and it's just it's funny because the whole songwriting itself is You know I I definitely want to help people I just think life is incredible gift and everything that that it kind of encompasses and wages being able to be in those shoes is just a man it's something that that baseball could never do for me so yeah I'm not I have pursuing L. People for sure I love them and and that's that's the reason I really wanted to hear and to be a part of this interview you have no idea what's going on but that song was in my head when I started reading it I had a really cool melody which is melody that the chorus has have a change people and and you know maybe rap a song that celebrates something they went through maybe song makes them remember especial feeling or experience that they felt and I had this idea this visual in my head sometimes when I'm writing songs I like to envision a music video if you will and there's something about just trying to China bad it when that song can hit that perfect note or that crook core strength Pun intended as the the mood or whatever caught up in life to where you lose a little intimacy and in my head I had this this little music video of just this man looking at a woman on the couch and they're in their home everybody listen to this definitely go check have his song it's on spotify it's it's really good but again outside of that even the your music is great and stuff I again I really dig who you are as a person as a matter of fact we were actually just having a conversation not too long ago we were talking about some changes you made love is a beautiful thing but once you have a family and establish a family that grow up and they move out and then all of a sudden you have man and the woman they're still still together you can kind of get comes back Ganic girl basically married older couple to be specific knowing that I knew just for the purpose of the song I decided to write about it and I just feel like you know canary has been hurt radio and he just kind of looks at her and this way of like you know like I'd imagine it had been awhile since it really just Kinda felt that burning love that they had felt when they first right to the music video really really helps gives the RADYR clarity and structure to to what they're trying to say in their song for me I know that when I wrote the song going to to a writing session whether you're you're by yourself and you have a plant you have an idea whatever you have a feeling or melody and sometimes you go into a right are written for a purpose and that is to make the song and then there are people who are making with the purpose of the field is trying to write the script for how I wanted this interviewed ago and I really loved it can tell you can tell that they're songs you just go out and have some time to go out on a date you know and and Kinda just try to light that fire again feel that intimacy in that just that that attraction and that's it links that they're having you can tell them someone's put their feelings into music and I felt that way when I listen to your music means lottery good thank you I really heard here guy I guess you would say and so I've always really tried to prioritize being big strong guy on the baseball field and just being athletic than that included I call them up and a great guy just one of the nicest human beings I've ever met and Basically flat I was I came in I would love for you to hold the Dayton and I just kind of wanted to write a song that kind of just grabbed that and it just reminded you know the whole Hook of the song is that's act like nobody's home is just that to a T. so that's great man I listened to it the other day when you were telling when you were telling me about it and when I was awful plant based food you know it's from his his perspective you know our bodies aren't quote unquote designed to be digesting meat so on and so forth so hear my body and watching it grow and but I had some opportunities come along relatively recently that are really really my judgment or my position on it and so I thought you know what I asked him I said why and he kind of game some of his his rundowns on it just I see you mentioned was you know the body really does thrive I sleep so much better and I woke up early ready to go just I mean all all all engines firing and I noticed my senses a little bit where for better so it's kind of funny because it wasn't a real personal song to me but it's just a real feeling where I was like you know I think it's important every now and then for people that for a couple of Aso it's funny because when it comes to life you'd think you really have a grip on life zinc you understand it and then all of a sudden something happens whether it be good or bad and it Kinda just curve ball if we're thinking baseball that just kind of throws you off and recently you know I've I've I'm kind of wanted to be in the best shape I could and I remember there was a friend of mine that I've been friends with for a couple years and he actually was a body builder and competed and he's still competes as far as taste touch mental clarity everything and so I I bought all in and I decided you know what did some research on my own what you decided you know what life is all about experiencing things and it's just I want to I want experience something like this before I make my actual body and and just try to you know for longevity reasons to I'd like to be forty five fifty sixty years old and still be able to have the ability to move around as I was listening to him give me his you know his rundown on why he chooses to live this lifestyle I said why not shot and I started the detox just experience my body just turn into a machine I felt unbelievable the energy levels shot through the roof my sleep I never really struggled sleeping thankfully but Dan each of those meals would have like you know anywhere from sticks test seven ounces of chicken or Turkey or beef with a cup or two extreme diets when I was doing bodybuilding thing and I made my life where I was eating six seven times a day and I mean for me I'm a big TACO connoisseur so it's Kinda hard to WanNa go talk goes but yeah yeah so I made that decision to uh I felt amazing after making the switch and that was something I really wanted to chase in bodybuilding and that whole that's also when I realized that I didn't want to do this anymore I was so tired of eating like that and I was a realized how badly it was fitness and dieting I was always very conscious of what I was eating trying to trying to better my body could be a better athlete and also just my overall health you know I enjoy the the challenge of tea you know I wouldn't consider myself a heart Vegan but when it comes to food choices yeah I'm choosing to eat you know I I would just like to take vice just adding to decide to try vegan detox and stuff like that do you WanNa tell us a little bit more about that lifestyle changes you've been cycle it was for me every day was a vicious cycle snowy earlier man I the biggest I was was accountable to train me and it opened up a conversation with him and he told me hey I gotta warn Ya at Trend Vegan and I thought my head was over with the exercise and to be running around with my kids my grandkids and and I feel like this is something that could really increase those chances and sides it was basically no animal byproducts and gluten free dairy free we I mean everything you can imagine pretty much fruit vegetables salad cups of rice or sweet potatoes or whatever and I ate that like did I did that for years day after day and you know of course I still had cheap meals and he's stressing me out I could feel when I was done and I started eating people food again I it was whole life changed I just felt happy I was like okay maybe this wasn't for me I respect it but I wasn't getting enjoyment out of it anymore and stuff like that but I tried to stick as close to my meal plan is I could be a especially when I started when especially when I started getting really intense organic soup I mean it was like for Big Guy I'm about six five so for guys like man I eat a lot of food this is GonNa be tasked but after the first week it just opened my eyes it man added so now I just WanNa be a healthier person I wanted to do I just WanNa live better lives and be healthier but but to go with your your price body mass was a little higher than the average person so I had to eat according to and so I totally feel you on that I really do but there's something just when I was that big and I it's crazy I'm like that's a whole nother person that's not me looks like that I was that big when I was the Vegan Detox I definitely I definitely had a patch in my life here pretty recently where I was struggling with red meat curve more more likely you know I can only imagine now it's like I went through a time where I was fasting as well when I got done with all the bodybuilding stuff beat something about it really kind of threw me off and every time I went to eat it I had a really bad experience and like I just two hundred twenty pounds and I was still pretty lean even when I was that big and when I started losing weight after I got hurt I looked back at pictures of myself I was making my life miserable by doing it so it's one of the Delta awareness kind of things for myself well you and I both men I was eating about eight ounces of pros could do it and I ended up making like probably my own self making myself sick right like mentally stirring yourself up to the point where you actually get sick at this point where I thought you know what I'm going to give it a shot let's do it yeah I don't know that I do that I've definitely done something extreme I've done cheaper meal just like you're saying that was the Dow's kind of the the one disadvantage of being a kind of bigger guy was that you know I instant grind and it gives you something to work hard towards but you know you really gotTa have reasons to WanNa do it otherwise it just becomes something that's like almost just a a vicious really believe you can eat too much meat you know I I think I think that we eat too much meat and I feel like that does impact us I feel like that makes us sick I'm just like Oh my God what did I do like how that happened I get that yeah and I don't regret it because I clearly didn't appreciate it when Alan started just eating chicken Turkey instead for well I felt better and I've just started eating red meat again but I I never saw that south I never saw that in the Mir I always solid ally I'm still too fat or I'm still to puffy here work and not eat anything all day long because I just was so happy Tanabe eating seven meals a day that I just wasn't hungry and then I would only end up eating have a lot of inch I get a lot of enjoyment from challenging myself from the gym and trying to grow my body and it's it's definitely something that is a constant challenge yeah I just couldn't even look at it look at a piece of steak without getting sick so I had to let go for awhile I quit eating red meat for just like a little working out at all so the fact that was burning fat was really strange and then Kinda like you said with the detox I started feeling better I started re and started really looking into some stuff and realize that you know I want I want to give this a shot so I've been been on it for a while now a lot do you like meat still can eat meat here and there let's Day at the end of the day and then I started getting into a habit of doing it and I started noticing some crazy fat burning like properties and I just figure out how to eat regular food again and go back to being a normal person what ended up happening by accident was I would go to work here are my license aren't being for whatever whatever it was you know it was just like I couldn't be satisfied with it and now when I go that and a little interesting uh-huh things sort of frame of you when you when you then when I was bodybuilding doing anything like that it's it's you and I both it's it's it's pretty crazy man relief feeling better I felt like my brain was functioned faster I slept better and just throughout the day I had way more energy uh-huh podcasts and many more you can easily make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership thanks for listening and check out the APP anchor easiest way to make a podcast anchor gives you everything you need in one place which allows you to make a podcast using your phone or your computer and they have creation tool that allow you to record and edit your podcast so that it sounds great they'll distribute your podcast for you so it can be heard everywhere spotify apple Google body was able to utilize everything that I was eating from bananas the apples to to blueberries to the big old salads I mentioned afresh oil just I mean they're actually very tasty and I was eating a lot of fruits a lot of fruits blueberries lot of grapes and but the energy consider a healthy male whether it's eight ounces chicken and maybe some asparagus or else Brussel sprouts or something maybe sweet potato what I would consider pretty healthy for for but you know I was able to that before and I feel that way and all of a sudden now my body what are you doing you know kind of a big giant Fu I want to be healthy. I want to be healthy me too I just feel like there's so many one thing I noticed about bodybuilding I I love bodybuilding like my I felt like my body was able to turn what I would eat into fuel so quick and my stomach felt like and it like I just and it was different because Vegan as that but it's actually not that it's you know I was eating these big big real pretty salads have fresh tomatoes ALFALFA sprouts I was using avocado. You know a guy my size but I would feel a little lethargic maybe is the right word even after eating a healthy meal but after being on I felt like I could eat more food but it wasn't hunger it was it was almost like I knew that my my stomach had more room inside of it I didn't have a lot of food in it but I wasn't like starving but I did notice when I you know about a weakened in my detox decided hey you know I'm kind of craigslist Tacos I've had them in a while I went out and eight eight something and I'm not crapping on it or anything like that one thing I definitely noticed is it seems like you now I used to read those the magazines I used to be so into bodybuilding I I would tight that stuff so I know some real quick about that so it just was enough for me to say you know what I I really want to try this time I wanna Chase feel-good feeling Really changed my mind about a lot of stuff I'm still lean I mean I would say I'm unhealthy I this this detox keep in mind I wasn't eating just a bag of baby carrots and and a bunch of you know uncooked broccoli like that a lot of people tend to think and the whole rest of the night and I felt like a bowling ball inside of my stomach and might seem a little bit like an over exaggeration but if I'm going to be honest with you after feeling Kakada's and then all of a sudden I eat something like you know me or just in general I guess you know Tacos they're not the healthiest thing for you and that's the one thing I noticed that I was a little bit oblivious to at the time but you know I d I d there's so many different things in different styles dieting and eating and trying to taking care of your body that I just feel like we really don't know Dan she competes at a pretty high level I I don't know to what extent exactly but I believe it was something along the lines of like kind of like the Tour de France stuff maybe not as big really do thrive off plant based so I started looking at these athletes and a lot of them were nervous like I was but once they made that change they all had one thing you comment and it was that the will eat giving yourself a break I felt so much better so that that by itself is an indicator that maybe other options might be just as good the magazines every month and I would read articles and it seemed like every month they was slow or maybe not every month maybe every year whatever they were talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger man be literally the icon of bodybuilding he even mentioned that he cut his he cut his meat and take a percents because I can always flip flop like drinking milk is actually bad for you and then two years later they're drinking milk is actually good for you and it seems like it just Kinda went back and forth in was much as we say we do and I know there's probably people listening that that might be crazy but you know the fasting thing it disturbed by any means I'm really just quote him but he felt that the meat industry was false market and that our body that's right but I eat them you know and and right right away man I've within minutes my body just like I ended up falling asleep for about two hours was I wanted to find other athletes because I consider myself still an athlete that had made that choice or had been training Vegan And I want to see how they performed look at question that if they want but I can tell you how I feel and fast in just being on a on a cycle of fasting and the I mean for all we know maybe you're right you know maybe the maybe eating Vegan is what we are actually designed for in eating anything else is actually acids essential amino acids I did my own research and I learned that there is a way to get protein from food without having to deal with you know to be honest and there's actually a movie that I believe just recently came out who's a trailer when I last checked it I haven't seen it yet but it's called game changers and Arnold Schwarzenegger's in it there's professional football players believe they're on the titans there's a couple of Olympic powerlifters in there and there's actually a a cyclist as a quote unquote was a machine she's like my body was was doing things that I think my body could physically do and even the football players mentioned that they were competing at the for that experience as we could just be together in quickly and assholes to each other you know what I mean loved I wish I wish people the rest of the world could have his open of a mind is you did but definitely you know professional from what I see and they talked about their experiences before they decided to go plant based Diet and then after and I started noticing even and so yeah just turn it somewhere like you know I noticed that it was a like a repetitive thing everybody was saying the same thing these are professional athletes and is level of their competition that their bodies compete performance wise that they'd ever see and it was I think fifteen of them on the same team that did it to allow me it tastes good as long as I don't eat it very often which is kind of a once a week maybe for me but he mentioned that you know and I don't mean it was a I'm a big fan of these tacos at this place right here and they make this killer case it is world I'm a big cheese guy which is kind of going against the whole Vegan thing but but I noticed that you can actually get the same exact result from plant based proteins and supplementation as you would get from meeting a big and a lot of times you know as human beings we feel like you know one person I don't think I'll have that big of an effect but you know if I'm being honest I think that life is all about experiences and this was one that I decided hey you know what I can try it and if I don't like it then what's the worst thing that can happen but it was a complete opposite man for me personally I know that the world is changing and eventually it will it will be a really great place I do believe that it sounds cliche but you know a lot of people say Rome wasn't built in a day and part of that is the fact that it took a lot of small things to make gather and just start treating each other better every day I mean really you know that's what the world needs is a little bit more of an open mind and I feel like I mean uh sports science or I guess really just nutrition and try to try to understand the whole process of breaking down muscle and rebuilding end protein andbranch Shannon and feel good or make them want to return to somebody else or maybe it's just a bunch of US bunch of people around the world that decided to that date do exist to themselves but to each other yeah yeah it's it's funny because it's you know it's and it just got to the point where I'm like you know what maybe maybe maybe maybe they're right and you know I did a little a little bit of science I think that a lot of toxins and a lot of things that can end up leading to heart disease or health to any kind of health issues or problems

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Whos on the Naughty and Nice List from The Real Housewives of New Jersey? (with Lauren Sebastian of Big Blonde Hair)

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Whos on the Naughty and Nice List from The Real Housewives of New Jersey? (with Lauren Sebastian of Big Blonde Hair)

"Hi I'm Megan Sarah and I'm Eric J man. This is the daily dish. Bravo's official podcast. Well guys. This is our last official episode of two thousand and Nineteen. Can you believe it. I can't believe it. We also just past four hundred episodes. That's insane to me. Have how much time do you think we've spent together at this point too much. It can play like probably more than with our significant other. I mean truly like not only do we do the podcast together but we sit right across from each other where often going out together together for drinks after work at the holiday party. Like all of that stuff. Though practically Mary are married. Yeah so I think we should do a fun countdown. Just talking about our favorite moments of the year. Because we've had a lot there have been a lot of major highlights. I would say I mean it took me a minute to to think about all of the things that have happened just so many events bravo wide so many things that happened on the podcast I mean where do we even begin. Yeah why should we just go ahead. Let's go all right so the first thing I thought about what is Shinwari from real housewives of Atlanta. Who We're both so sad did not come? I know I'm holding out. Hope that she will come back in the future because I love love Shamar even as a friend of totally but so my highlight was her coming in to record the podcast and she actually sang a little daily dish. Jingle for US welcome to the daily did the greatest podcast. That was so good to hear her. Do it live was so amazing and then it was just kind of stuck in my head for like weeks afterwards because it just like the way she like rift. It was so good though I mean. Here's the thing one of the things I appreciate it. A lot about Shinwari was that she is such an incredible singer and one of my favorite moments probably of the year two was like the sing off that she had with candy and she nailed it. Yeah Not that candy is not good good but like candy was a little extra and Shinwari just kind of like she should brought it brought it. Okay well one of my favorite moments I mean I have to say was are Bravo con live show. That was a major moment for the podcast. Our first ever live show at the first ever Bravo Kahn which was amazing but getting getting a little more granular at Bravo con. I got the chance to meet. Dale Mercer tens lease mom. You were like beaming gene. After that happened I was so excited. Because I've like tinting and I know each other. We've been at parties together. Whatever spent on podcast a few times and when she came over to do her interview with me and she brought Dale on on my God like ten days here and she was like me? My Mom and Dale was so nice so sweet I could tell Oh. She wanted to answer a lot more questions for Tinsley than she did. Especially because at that time Tinsley had just gotten back with Scott and it was all in the press. Asked like what's going on and it was right before the engagement. And knowing what we know. Now there's a sparkle entails. I that I think was like I know it's going to happen in a a couple weeks because I think she was part of the planning process for that Did she smell good. 'cause she looks to me like someone who smells good smell good yeah. She smelled like you know money. Money like very nice floral scented money. Yes I think highlight for me. It is anytime Bravo Liberty like listens to one of our episodes. It feels. I don't know exciting. And and Kate chastain regularly tweets then to comment about our episode. Yes I love that I love Kate. I Love Kate to. It's so much fun when you find out that Bravo liberties are also fans of Bravo. Yes because sometimes you forget that they might also be tuning into into other shows or whatever and you know. Kate loves housewives. She has so many opinions about it. So it's so great to hear her feedback to and you know maybe early twenty twenty and we'll just have kate back on the podcast. That's another thing too that makes me think of when I talked to Stasi and bow at Bravo Pravo con. We did a little game where I think it was Housewives tag lines and stacey is obsessed with real housewives of New York. Bo is now obsessed with real housewives of new org through stacy and we did like a game where I I read the tag lines and they nailed it so that was really fun to see Stasi like freak out over tag lines. Boaz obsessed with real houses in New York. I'm obsessed with this beautiful circle. We'll speaking of real housewives. Another big moment I think for us. This here was guest. bartending on watch. What happens live which it was a very Important episode because it was Lisa Vander pumps last appearance Durance as a real housewife right because it was during the season of Beverly Hills and she was on Solo. Yeah little did we know should be quitting soon right there were some you know hints along the way including a couple of things that can said backstage and Lisa had said to us in interviews prior so we sort of had the hint but at the time we didn't really realize we were just so excited to be there and like being on camera wearing makeup and like drinking frisky. La's over and over that we didn't even really recognize what a big moment moment. That was for much. Weapons Live for Lisa. The whole thing already said late Bravo liberties being fans of the podcast. Like that's a very exciting thing. But sometimes James they have opinions. That aren't necessarily the most positive. What and her kind of clapped back at us on Enj- witter that is very true and by the way we weren't wrong right but still it? I don't know it's like even though it wasn't like Oh my God you guys are doing such a great job. It was still an iconic moment. It was it was upset about something we sat on the podcast. So another big highlight for me from this year. was what is going on Amy Phillips Sirius. XM radio show reality check because she is so hilarious. I love and respect all incredible. Incredible impersonations of anyone never mind housewives and amy is so talented so funny and another person. Who's just like a fan fan of Bravo and wants to share that with other people so she had us go on not once but twice to talk about a little bit of what was going on on the shows? Some of the stuff that was going on in the news and it was just a really great experience. Because you know doing the podcast is one thing we get to kind of sit in a room. And there's some editing and you know it's not like the same sort of energy of being on a live radio show so I thought that was really cool and made me feel like I remember being a kid listening to the radio and knowing that we were actually a part of that experience was so much fun. She's always just so nice and so supportive I love her. I love her. Do you remember when Giselle from real houses of Potomac Cayman for an interview and afterward she was just kind of hanging out and shooting with us. And we were talking about Ashley Darby and like the whole like episodes with Ashley trying to contact her. Dad had just come out and just like oh well I have a photo of what he looks like right like even though we we work at Bravo. I think what's great is like how we're still such fans and it's like it's like this information that like you have that we don't have tell us everything everything. No it's very true because I remember that came up in our interview and I was like I wanna see that picture because it did come up at the Potomac reunion or something like that where I I had not seen the picture but everyone was saying that her dad looked an awful lot. Like Michael Darby. So I was very grateful that Giselle shared that with us It also reminds me she'd come come in before that interview and was hanging out by our desk and I mentioned to her that I was going to the share show. That night will actually share in concert. Not The show on Broadway. Oh my God I was with Darin all day yesterday and she would not stop talking about how she was going to see share Barclay Center and then she asked me. What's your favorite share song wrong? And I said I found someone which is like one of her kind of older hits like not one of her New Orleans and just which ones that. Can you sing it for me. So I'm like And I like sang a few lines. I don't know that one she was like I like that one. What's it called? Do you believe in life after life. Yeah it's called believe in choose a guy like that one I was like Oh my God and I are talking about share right now. What is your life is gay speaking of gay I okay? I have to say that another big moment for me. Even though I was on vacation and I didn't get to attend was Bravo's presence at gay pride this past year it was world. Pride and New York City was hosting. which is such a huge deal and for the first time ever Bravo had a float in the parade and it was like Zell was there? I mean Ninian Cynthia which we saw play out on royal houses of Atlanta. Already this season it was a ton of Bravo liberties a ton of drag queens addressed as Bravo Liberties Andy was there and it was just amazing celebration and it just it seems so fitting just knowing our programming and our talent and people who listened to the podcast and people watch our shows to have a presence at such an important event so props to Bravo and next year. I`Ma beyond that flow. I think the best moment of all for me in two thousand nineteen was going to this. Season's real house Beverly Hills reunion filming. Yeah because it was such a crazy season and you know I'm on my way to La. When Lisa drops the news the Daily Mail that she won't be attending the reunion and so that was a really big deal that that's only happened like twice? I think in the history of housewives the first being Adrian Malouf and the third season of Beverly Hills so both on Beverly Hills only really now but then jacqueline from houses. Oh right at one time. That's true but so anyway and then just being backstage in like this energy of the ladies really unsure of Liza would show up or not production. Not sure if Lisa would show up or not and just this anticipation and then the realization of like. WHOA like? She's not coming right. This is done. She is off this show that she's been on since the beginning. If I could rewrite history I would have written Lisa showing up reunion. That would have been amazing. I can and just can visualize the footage of like the black car pulling up and the door opening and you see her heels stepping down and she's carrying the dog and it's like Lisa's hair women being like. Yeah well I have to say I think maybe my top moment or what am i. Top moments of the year was when we got to interview. Brennan Brendan Maxwell and Christian Syrian from project runway and for me having those to come in because they are so well known outside side of Bravo. It was definitely a new experience for me as someone who like hosts the podcasts and does interviews to have people of their kind of stature church come in and the two of the biggest designers right now I mean brandon was working with Lady Gaga for so long and I've been such a huge fan of Lady Gaga from the beginning so that was an iconic iconic moment in and of itself but also like when you and Brandon were like keying about Texas and all of these things that you guys had in common which yeah totally knew all this stuff and I was like God this is so adorable and then it was funny because you could even see him get more comfortable in the interview being like. Oh my God. Yeah and he was just so nice and so on ice. Yeah and Kristen Syria. I mean he is so major and he had such an impact on the fashion industry and everything that he's doing and he's designing all of the famous stars right now now so it was like really cool to be able to be in a room with him and just have a conversation about the new season of project runway and all the work that he does. So I mean. That'll definitely say with me okay. So now that we've recapped our favorite moments of the year. We played a little game with some of the housewives at the Daily Mail Holiday Party. So our producer Sara was on the red carpet and decided to ask questions to each of them about who from their casts is the most naughty audie and who is the most nice but naughty not in the sexual way however you may however you may want to interpret the term naughty so I think each of women also interpreted in their own way and the answers may or may not surprise you. I wasn't so surprised by a lot of their answers so Dolores Catania for her choice on. Naughty was actually Jackie which doesn't come as a huge surprise because right right now during this season they're kind of going back and forth their friends. They're not friends. Like the whole thing in Jamaica was a little tricky for them but she chose Jackie because she said something that surprised prized her during one of her interviews. And I feel like that's always something that gets the ladies in trouble. is they make peace off camera or whatever with some of their friends but then the interviews happen and it opens up a whole new Pandora's box for these people for Nice Delors actually chose Jennifer and it was because Jennifer wrote a check so she donated to Saint Joe's hospital where David works for the Children's Oncology Party so Jennifer has a charitable side. Okay I thought it was interesting. Margaret said that everyone is on the nice list except for Jennifer and probably Danielle Stop Right CA forever on the Nautilus rights for her Margaret. Melissa Gorgon actually nominated herself Nice list which is very on brand I think for Melissa. And she put Jennifer on the Naughty Celeste. And it's not so surprising. I mean Jennifer's name appeared a few times throughout this conversation of who was on the nicer naughty lesson. It seems like Melissa. I just can't really get a read on Jennifer and like how she feels about her so make sense. You would just drop on that list. Jackie not unsurprisingly said Melissa and Margaret or on the Nice List Theresa and Dolores or in the middle so she couldn't make up her mind and then the rest. They're on the naughty list. Well that's good to know that Dolores made it to the middle right like inbetween. Yeah the Nice and Naughty List and he goes against the whole naughty or four night right exactly. He didn't really play the game and it's finally it's fine but the rest being on the Nautilus. Doesn't that only really leave Jennifer. And then I guess Danielle else to hub. Yeah it makes sense so I guess the consensus here is that Jennifer is on the naughty list. Who would you put on the naughty list from this group? Can I say Danielle. Yeah I would say Danielle for sure. Totally Nadi Nadi go watch after naughty without they go watch Danielle's after show clips right and I think that's what I'm referring to more than anything. They are epic. Because I think we've also seen a couple that it haven't gone live yet. They will be. I mean I would probably put Danielle on the naughty list but I would probably probably nominate Jennifer too. Yeah no definitely. And it's just like overall behavior s qualifies her for the Nautilus. And I think the Nice list I would. I would nominate innate Margaret but actually I would nominate Marleny Number one nicest person ever for Jersey. I feel like who who would be. Nice is Margaret Right. Like I think she's pretty nice to everyone except on yell right okay. Well between us who is nice and who is not a are either of US nice. I'm Nice Nice Nice. I think I'm nice on your naughty. Eighty one am I naughty though God. Why don't we review your posts from your trip to Belize whether it's like I'm not exactly? Hey We're both nice though but like your knotty all right I'll take it Who Does Sarah Nice? Yeah it was like I'm sick. Don't make me do anything. Anything looks miserable with a cold. She agrees I'm Nicer Naughty. Fine whatever So Eric and I kind of thinking about we should replay our favor interviews from this year and my number one favorite is. It's definitely our interview with leander pump. First of all it was her last interview with us as a real housewife and it was definitely her talking about the real housewives of Beverly Hills because the season hadn't started but the superseded come out and she was like already in a place where she wasn't going to watch it and I think it was pretty vocal all season about not watching the show like she just couldn't do it because her brother had died she was in a different place in life. She admitted in this interview that she had started taking antidepressants to deal with it. And I just felt like she was really raw and unfiltered in a way. We hadn't seen her before. And so that's why it's my favorite. Let's let's take a listen guys. We are here with Lisa Vander pomp. Welcome well thank you for having me another amazing scene season of Andrew pump rules. Yeah but there's a shift the season they're growing up struggling to grow up. I mean there's always a shift that I I think that's what keeps the show fresh because we see you know new characters and we see them you know kind of hope we see them make mistakes we see them you you know sometimes kind of get swift kicking the all's from me but I think that's what's the show so successful is you'll spend to st of the kind of their evolution Shen. Yeah you know speaking of the show and its success you were on Good Morning America with Lindsay Lohan. Well she was on before me. Okay Yeah and then it was just. It was a very warm reception. Got Out the car and they said Lindsay will not leave until you come and say hello to her right okay. Because she's you you know ready said I'm the value of her show so I was just like okay and give her quick smooch. And then as I walked through the GM a Robin Roberts was then then it was a different segment and she ran off the second grabbed. Mitch See 'cause we're such good friends you know we go back and Fugu me a long time ago. I think it was for a sixty minutes or something like that and yet we became great friends so yeah it was very warm reception there. We'll after the trailer for Lindsey show came out a lot. The people drew comparisons between it and van pump. Rules is imitation the most sincere form of flattery. Oh absolutely right but you know what I would never want to imitate. I would learn from people that I admired or respected because I you know. Everything's a learning curve in life but I would never try and be somebody else else. I think you always have to be yourself from. Bring your own uniqueness to you know because I've always just setting yourself up from failure really you know. Never say I am the next because I think it was France. Burke said you know the most common thing she is is a wheel the next founder pump. Rules don't bother be your own thing you know. I never won't be the next all the second you know. I want to be the first of my ship and I'm bringing you know But yes a you know. I've been so fascinated by hi. This week's showed you really deal with James and James's mother and I feel like I've heard a few different ways how you know James James's parents. Can you set the record straight on that. Well we're not that close. I mean I. It sometimes appears because of his perception a little little bit when he took but I met James's parents through Bruno Tonioli Kind of fuse go just before he started work for us. Who's WHO's the judge on dance with stars whose friend of mine prior to that I had met Andros and Kenya? Andrews Vaguely Andros which Michael and Andros being around the scene in London. So we knew him a little bit but then we had dinner that night and they both said you know. Could you give One of my sons James Ajab maybe as the Buzzer all Abbaba. He probably because we'd started van apart rules by then I think maybe in the first season so okay I want to get involved in this. And obviously then he ended up sleeping with Kristen doty and he was well well in there like a rat of drainpipe. It is interesting though that there's this whole conversation around me to right. Now yes in this you know. Katie came to you with an ultimatum. You know it's mere James. After the way he spoke to me. What do you think of that like? Are you kind of happy that this conversation is even finding itself. Relevant on manner pump roles. Well I think we're always kind of very aware of what's going on in the world and and I didn't really appreciate the fact that she gave me an ultimatum and I felt my hands were tied a little bit because you know James done a very good job on his Tuesday night but I felt that I was kind of pushed into corner now. A lot of people have to understand that I didn't see Katie provoked. I'm James I just heard James had reacted and it wasn't just about the way he spoke Katy. Which of course was fundamentally wrong? It was also the fact that a lot of people that missing this point the fact that he was drinking at work so when I knew he was wrong even though he used that excuse I was drunk or whatever well you should be drunk work now now on pride stay. I'm very lenient. And let them all have a couple of drinks because nobody wants work on that day. It's the day when West. Hollywood is literally alight alight and alive with energy. And I'm very involved with the gay community and I always have a flow or a party and so I know to get people to work. Actually say yeah. You can have a couple of drinks and party atmosphere by. Don't expect them to get slaughtered so he goes from the sublime to the ridiculous either not drinking or actually getting wasted what I would like them to understand is. There's a little place in between there in that you can have one or two drinks actually have a modicum of sense at the same time. We saw that Natalie Guillermo. It didn't agree with you on the decision it was kind of back and forth. How often does that happen with your business partners? Well not too often but I think Yemen wasn't. I don't really understanding the severity and he didn't really experience Katie's emotion and he was looking at it from a financial point of view that it's such a big night so that was was annoying. You know because it had been something you've worked hard on. He was successful BC. Also what's very important to me as we see the juxtaposition of the James Kennedy's personality of how he has this incredibly supportive kind of attitude to his family and his family have struggled and we see that. And they're you know they're doing okay. I'm Jacky been sober for quite a while. We see that scene but we also so have to understand that every family has its problems struggles but not every family has one of their sons willing step up to the plate and support them financially financially in an offer help so that part of his character was absolutely imperative to me that we we showed that and I taught Palang worth about out not all chair Ronna and who I do on his nearly always on the same page. I said it's so important to me that we do see this other aspect of his of his character. Yeah that's what I've been loving watching. I can feel your like tough position. Because you're not just supporting James or family gives the you you know five thousand dollars to Dylan. I mean to be a young man and be in that position where he has to do that. You know and and I worry worry for James because he does not make the right choices I mean the and and drink liquor is ooh cans. What retain theon charters excellence? Why I married him? is just you know is his downfall and some people can have allowed only he caught. You know we've been around around the the restaurant and bar business several years you see. That is no stranger to this but he is Jacqueline Hyde and it would actually behoove him. Never ebbets drink again really. It seems like a difficult conversation that you had with Jackie as well you got very emotional. Is that something you would ever do. If it was your kids would you ever approached. What's their boss to be like? Here's the case for why he needs this job or something like that. Well I've certainly been involved when my kids have messed up you know. I remember one. John's you know going to Pepperdine headmaster and just saying well you know it wasn't quite like that and passing on your children's behalf I think we all we'll do that as parents or go to school and try to kind of you know. Put your kids point of view across an. I've definitely done that. Having had two kids is but ah for me. I saw the vulnerability and Jackie as well and how she didn't when she says you're the mother figure I'm like no you you all the mother figure and she admits the fact that she has been lenient about ways allowed to speak to her. And you know that kind of thing. That's where she needs. Step on and say look okay. I was drunk. I screwed up until now but things are going to change and they start right here right now. So you know I can't be there every day. You know right now that Tom. Tom Is up running off. She like chocolate now. The tom-tom is up and running learning. Is it everything you hoped it would be. Oh I'm more people love it I think it's very important cannon. I never to have two premises the same so pumping down the road and then serving around the corner. We wanted to make something that felt unique so tom tone was more of a decadent cocktail ball with kind of bite some food. And that's actually how a new restaurant in Vegas is going to be. It's going to be somewhere where you go go in and you have great cocktail but you. Can you know maybe order some cauliflower buffalo wings or collar purse is all Hickama tacos echos with shrimp and things like that and you can just have that kind of nibble raw than pump has a great ball scene. But also you can't have that three cost in under the olive trees until midterms Kinda got that more the feeling of tom-tom you know that kind of more laid back but it's done very well they will do very well actually yeah circle. What were your thoughts on Tom's comments about Pandora's mixologist? I wouldn't tape Pandora on. I mean she's the smartest person I know. And I mean the fact you know he's saying saying Oh Pandora doesn't shit whatever. What Pandora owns a liquor company? She's almost smelly having done all the She's Valedictorian Valedictorian of school. Double Major Pepperdine. She's managed many of our restaurant. She worked behind the bar. She's worked very closely with me. When I was editor in chief Beverly Hills lifestyle during everything involved catering and entertaining? She's also had her own blog questions highlighted so many cocktails and ped- food with drink. Now big mistake stay take somebody else on. She's pretty qualified qualified. Say so something that fans will kill us. If we don't ask the trailer for the real housewives of Beverly Hills has dropped after so much fanfare so much weight gain anything you WanNa tell us about the upcoming season. I haven't seen the traitor. You won't watch it. I watch it why because it was a very hard time in my life. This season and I've being accused in the post of not showing my motions. Well this year. It was very difficult for me and You know I I struggled I floundered. I didn't do well after my brother passed and can attest to that. You know and for me to start take take antidepressants and going to therapy and counseling. Grief Counseling. I've never been therapy. I've never taken any drug but I didn't do allows more emotional. All I was weaker and I just you know I wasn't as prepared and I honestly to talk to everybody about coming back to housewives. I knew I had to bring Tom Thoman. And and you see me in a struggle without emotionally a lot of time we were way behind schedule. And with tom-tom opening I was exhausted. And doing you know Vanna pumped rules which is such a big show and everything else I had going on and I was if I broke my nail I burst into tears and I think it really took me until about maybe October to really try and pull myself together and to me to reach out for help with something. I've never done either and It was my doctor. Just said you know. Sometimes it's okay if you can't cope so yeah I think suicide ride is Something that radiates through the whole family and it was very very unexpected. Very very difficult to deal with you know. Sixteen months older than me. I met Ken through him while only sibling. So Yeah Yeah thank you so much for sharing that. Yeah like a very important thing for people to hear And thank you so much for coming in talk. I don't want to end up on such sad note how I look forward to water pump roles. Well use this lot to look forward to on housewives as well. I mean there were laughs and they were good times and it's you know I'm sure it's a great show is just I. I was in a different place. And you know I've always been honest about that. I cannot be something I'm not and I think the audience ASEAN that we've talked about a lot of subjects objects you know over the years whether it's Max's adoption whether it's you know just struggles and emotional things and I've always been very open about that but I I was very open this year. But you know I think I won't to create a you know the way we've worked with dogs as well as by educating people would be kinder and compassion and being a humanitarian and they'll gpt and now we've rescued out over a underdogs which warms our hearts. I'm bound pumped dogs rescue. But how a Kinda society and about you know. I think now with the metoo movement is is very important to me. And that's why on Bonaparte rules. I do take such a strong approach to these kids about the way they talk to each other and the way they treat each other. Because you never really know I james. You never really know the depth of somebody's situation or depression and you know sometimes things don't always work out the way they should and so about being kind and and supportive is of huge importance to me. I mean I never. I thought that suicide would touch my life ever but however I had on the PSA the suicide prevention. Because I'm so involved with Trevor Project and saying obt youth the three to four times more light each kill themselves You know one in four youngsters a thrown down the street when they told their parents about the sexual orientation forty percent of our homes Utha obt how is okay. How is that okay as a mother? So Oh I think this year. I'm my ambition so on my list is to really step up my work with LGBT. Because I think we need the heterosexual voiced. Just you know really to speak loud and shot it from the rooftops especially under this administration. Kind of fort go backwards taken so long to get you guys here you know and Yeah just keep doing the stuff I'm doing and Bravo's been an incredible platform it's highlighted pride every year Many you know young people have come up to me and said you know Lisa. My mother said the way you were the way you are with me. And see makes her feel a bit differently about it and she was difficult to talk to and so to open doors conversation. And understand. You will never change your children's sexual orientation by you know really removing yourself from the situation all breaking that friendship love your children unequivocally and support them you know and don't be one of the statistics really. That's so great. Yeah thank you all right now. I have very urgent appointment of goodman a thank you for having me So before we get into my favorite interview of the year I wanted to share an interview that we did with Lauren Sebastian from big blond hair so basically from Bravo conto onto interview looks. There were so many comic fashion moments from Bravo Liberties this year that we wanted to break it down with an expert. So Lauren runs a great instagram account. How and website called big blonde hair has a podcast? So basically we invited her in to discuss some economic style moments announced some of her fashion superlatives of the year and A. and crown. who was the best dressed? Bravo liberty of the year. So here's that interview. Ladies and gentlemen we are here with Lauryn Sebastian of big blond hair. It's so nice to see you. Thanks for coming back. Oh my gosh. It's so nice to see you. Happy to be here. Happy almost new year. I know we're wrapping up twenty nineteen. It's hard to believe so today we are going to go through. What you have decided are some of the top looks of the year some of the best dressed housewives lives the biggest fashion moments that we've had in two thousand nineteen? It was a difficult difficult. I mean this year was huge between Bravo Khan and everybody pretty really step things up with fashion week. Appearances some narrowing down. This year was very difficult there. A lot of good looks. We're GONNA countdown. I the top ten lux six of one thousand nine hundred nine. So what is your number ten. Well I feel like I had to pay homage to Lala Kent's Jaylo Inspire address at Brunch on Vander. Pump rules She has you know really evolved this year in terms of style. Her wifey wardrobe. So she's she's still figuring things out I think but she's gone. She's gone in a lot of different directions in terms of outfits and this was just very la also being very Jaylo. This Jaylo dress seems to have like a resurgence this year because Jennifer war it at the what was it for Saatchi show. She closed the show wearing and I feel like like she wore it on Saturday night live. It's come back and that was what two thousand and four. What was that that it originally debuted? It was so long ago early two thousands. I think so you might be right about. I mean it's so great I feel like it's such an iconic cut and just like the pattern I mean and law so great and she does yes she did and it was very affordable it was well one hundred dollars I think so. She kind of did well with the styling with ponytail and the Tan. And all that stuff Yeah she looked great. What is your number nine? Look of the year. Erica Jane. And that Magda Boutros Address Linda Evangelista inspired. There are a lot of people that were this designer this year on the real houses Beverly Hills but I feel like this really sort of launched. It it's a hall the look with the earrings that I think. We're by Lana and the hair which which is possibly a wig. I would think so hard to tell. Now she really she really brought it. It was something that sometimes you know her other. Look with the kind of cartoon inspired mosquito outfit with very over the top. This is something that is actually gorgeous and she could wear it it out to totally. I remember when she posted on Instagram. Like a preview of this look with the hair and I was like. Oh my God she's giving me Marilyn Monroe. This is so beautiful. Okay Number for eight. What is number eight so Cynthia Bailey went on watch what happens live in this Pucci gold sequin kind of wrap shirtdress and everything with with a strap Sandal and the big hair just brought a whole look together she she always looks amazing? I can never get over. How beautiful she is and this was just? It's a great outfit for me. I love her hair to know she just did it. She's she did it right. I mean to look back good ever at any age is just total goals. She was one of my first interviews that I ever did on the podcast so low and I just remember her sitting down and just I fully understood the the nickname cheekbones. Because I was just like Oh my God. Your face is just perfect cow. Are you so beautiful. What about number seven okay? So I'm not sure if this is is more about the outfit or just everything that happened to me. I can't like split it up in my hotbed Lisa. Renna were this bodysuit and high waisted. Pant can't by Kushner at Andy Cohen's baby shower and it was perfect for getting up on a table and dancing have been any better. I think not. It's so so true. I mean I love that. We have also the slid down the side. So you're exposing some leg. Because when she got on the table that helped I think enhanced that moment of her being on the table and dancing the movement you got to see a little leg I just feel like a lot of people were dresses there and She did did a good job by stepping it up with this little two piece look and then totally stealing the show. Okay number six. Okay so Tinsley had this little pom pom two piece set in Miami you by Zimmerman And it was just a great look on a trip of great walk like I loved all of the outfits it makes me happy to think about their trip to Miami Emmy. She likes to rock Zimmerman on vacation. Her and Bethany both do. This was just a fun piece for Tinsley. She she paired it with those Alexander. Berman ties sandals and were with her famous link necklace and she looked absolutely great. Okay so what about number five. Osce Asi Schroeder's White engagement outfit the dresses by Alex Perry and the shoes are by Jimmy Choo Baffoni. Were them in black to the real housewives size of New York reunion and I. I'm not a huge bow person but something with the tool bows. The shoes are amazing. I've seen other bravo loves in them. Sense She just really looked amazing. She nailed it for the engagement party. I think Just a simple dress and the hair up and the shoe. She looks very classy She's really you know stepped up her style a lot too. It's gotten a little bit more mature and I think this is just perfect for any bride to to be to emulate for an engagement party all right. What about number four Kyle Richards war in a symmetrical Alex period dress and other Alex Perry popping up all over the place to the real house of Beverly Hills Premiere Party and I thought the high pony looked amazing with it? I thought all the styling with the smoking I I looked great And they're all really stepping up their game for premier parties and Just social events in this to me was just a great rate. Look on Kyle. I love when Kyle where something fitted I think. She looks great. Yeah I mean. She's in such great shape. All right number three okay. Bethany Franko wore an embroidered. Alice McCall romper temper. Another Miami look from realize of New York take Miami and people went nuts over this. I think it's very cute I don't know if it's because you know it. Bethany is wearing it that made that made it all the more all the better for people. But it's just it's a great vacation luck level. It'll romper on vacation and when she really goes all out on vacation and kind of does more feminine lighter looks. I feel feel like it's a nice way to kind of take the edge off of Bethany totally. Yeah that's a very good point and I can see Tinsley wearing something like this to you know. I wonder if they like share clothes. They should they show thanks so too. I mean they're both like little petit. I feel like they could totally get away with it all right number two. We're getting close. I know okay so oh I was obsessed with Joy comes lease white dress at Bravo on the Beaumont dress in June Alexander McQueen clutch and then a hi pony and everything about it just worked for me. It was very retro Glam and I just I was obsessed with us the moment I saw it and she did really good the way she posted the photos on instagram. With kind of the filter she used made it even better. Oh yeah so. My favorite movie of all time is first wives club so this was giving me like absolutely like final scene. Like at least Alliott Brenda Anti like dancing out right at the end of the movie as the credits go up like this is the look everything everybody pulled it together with the makeup and the hair stylists did a great job number one. What was your number one look of twenty nineteen eighteen? Okay feel like we covered this on our last podcast fashion because I'm so obsessed with it apparently and can't stop talking about it but another bomb on dress and it was Bethany Franco's season in eleven reunion dress and she has those tool Jimmy Choo sandals just talking about on Stasi Everything about this just the seventies retro vives. She did a basic straight hair with it and I could not love it anymore. Yeah so that was going to be my question when you have such a bold look like this like there's a lot going on in the dress ask how do you kind of work with that in terms of what you should do for makeup hair and then shoes. I think it depends on the person like if this had been doreen in this dress I could have seen it with a sleek in Kyw ponytail just to put it really over the top but I feel like Bethany. It's just I feel like the more New York way to do it. Just with like the straight hair and like a smokey I keep it simple and don't make it look so on wearable and so over the top right number one Bethany Frankel love your last reunion dress. She wore as a housewife might cry. Now I know emotional to emotional okay so we ran through all of your looks. Your top looks of the year but why don't we narrow it down a little bit to interview. Looks because I feel like that's always such an exciting thing to see and that's one of the things that people get so excited for ahead of a new season okay. So what were your top five. Most memorable interview looks this season so I thought that Erica Jane in this Parisian in cartoon inspired. I don't know the actual inspiration for this at this. Look by Myskina with the kind of scribbled colored in Blazer and the hat was something just when I saw that. I'm like that's so Erica. And I really just WanNa know more about this. Yeah absolutely I mean. It was giving me like Christina Aguilera Vibes because Christina has always been very bold in her fashion a since the beginning of her career. Okay what about your next most memorable look. I'm so many leaks wore a gold Gucci Turban and a Jeevan She Butterfly print dress and it was. It's just something just another just statements turban had peace That was an interesting look. I just feel like you have to do something different for interview. He looks and she did it with this one. Yeah I love that I love the gold. I think it's so beautiful. And even this dress interesting Combo to I wouldn't have thought to put it together but the this kind of floral dress and the big flower on the front of the turbine kind of pull everything together game. Yeah that's very true. Okay I'm very interested the next one you have on the list okay. So Jennifer Aden's Puff jacket wish ineligible. She had like the red jacket with the ties on the shoulder. She pulled in the Toronto of the bling. Barrett's you know. There's a lot going on but she on Instagram said. You know I love this look and I'm not listening to any of you. I think it's important to stay authentic to what you feel good in and she did it and people are talking about it so that means she did something right right. It's true. I mean she knows how to get. The conversation going which I think is a good quality of a housewife very important. Okay your next. Look that was memorable. I love this one too because it gave me like full Malibu Barbie Vibes yes this is another muskie skin look at Drake Hemsley and kind of this netted mash layered pink top and she also did the big waves in her hair And the Blink Garrett's which are kind of something that she brought into the picture for the real housewives. Now everybody is wearing but yeah total Barbie look another yeah. They're kind of like costume e vibe that I really enjoy looking at it reminds me a little bit too cameron. West Scott from real housewives of Dallas has like kind kind of similar look This season in one of her interviews and she kind of has the same sort of hairstyle with part of it pulled back and you know cameron is all about the pink. So she's obviously Ashley impact all right. What's one more memorable? Look in two thousand nineteen interview looks it was in my top ten looks and it is the air CA. Jane Leopard Dress loved it. I mean we already talked about it but it just is something Like you thought Eric when I thought the first time on Instagram I was like I need more of that good season so for twenty nineteen nineteen. Who Do you think had the best fashion return? I was happy to see Kenya Moore and her closet back on the real housewives of Atlanta. I think that she just always looks very pulled together. An entrepreneur but not over the top and she's gorgeous so that also helps but I I always when I'm watching real housewives of Atlanta I tend onto look for what Kenya is wearing. I because I just really there's something I relate to about her style that I really like. Yeah I agree okay so I think I know what your answer would be for this one but best vacation vacation outfits. Yes real housewives of New York and Miami or really real housewives of New York anywhere on vacation. I just I live the whole year for those episodes. Felt felt like they just. Everybody looked great weather. We have talked about their exact books are not they they just really great a Miami. Yeah I agree I agree okay. Who had the best Glam Lisa Renna in those whigs? I mean there was a different league for every day. She looked amazing. I mean even just thinking about oh how. She looked in that Melissa Melissa since ad that they did by Pony and the and the Bulls eye. Oh my Gosh I died over that and it was just a costume me look but she just looked amazing so I feel like I want to see more. WIG's here their names and I'm hoping it continues into twenty twenty. Oh I think well well I mean most. Recently we were introduced. I think Heidi was her. Most recent wake it was like the long hair a little bit of bangs and she did it a couple of times I was like Oh we got some new personalities analogies coming out with Renan Twenty twenty. I can't wait to see it. Yes okay. So best reunion. Look I'm GonNa Guess Miss Frankel good guys. Love that luck Again she just was perfect for the reunion. Yeah I agree who had the best glow up. So maybe from their previous previous season into their most recent season I would have to go with Shannon Boudoir. She just really looks great. She feels good about herself. Well I can tell and you know. She dresses a little bit more conservatively for Orange County. But I think that everything in terms of her hair or makeup and outfits and her body looks great the season and I'm happy for her. Who had the most daring look so the sheer gown that Catherine Dennis War at Patricia STAG party It was From revolve it was Michael Costello and I just thought she looked amazing in it and it is pretty. I think think it's pretty daring. I don't know if it was more during that Bronwyn wore it to her family. Photo shoot might have been more daring dress but I love. I liked on both of them but I I loved it. I'm Katherine. I thought she looked beautiful. And it was a real statement for her love. This dress I think like is red carpet worthy so we talk a lot about women and fashion. Let's talk a little bit about men who is the best dressed male bravo liberty for you this year. Okay okay so I think I have to go with Thomson of all. Yes he I heard. You agree as well but I think Tom he just always whether whether it's casual look or a suit. He rocks that like I loved. I saw him in Iran on their book tour and he was wearing like this wool coat with just a the little for Colorado. That made it so not overlap but so fascin- I know he definitely is in Spo- for me you too. There are some looks that he pulls off that I might I could never so I'm not even gonNA attempt it but there are other ones that like when it is some kind of like bold statement but then everything else else kind of subtle. I appreciate that like also him recently wearing a black turtleneck and then like a red suede kind of coat over it. And then you know black pants black ex- shoes so it was kind of like that was the statement who was your best dressed of Bravo. Khan I have to go with Dorri. Aside of Lisa Renna I I think everybody everybody looked so good. It was so fun just to see what everybody was marrying. Yeah I was had major foam. Oh because I wasn't there but even even like being able to see what everybody was wearing covering their outfits made up really fun. I thought both of those women looked amazing. Everybody really brought it. I agree so we've had a couple of newcomers this year new housewives on a couple different franchises. So who would you give best dressed newcomer. I'm you know I really like Bronwyn. from real housewives of Orange County. She just gives us what we WANNA see out of a housewife Orange County. She really just kind. Have you know shops the bretons that we want to see a lot of intermix a lot of revolve and I really like her as a housewife as well and I I think she's done a good job Just coming in and going along with kind of the housewife idea of dressing but putting in her own spin on it to. You can't believe she can fit into most of that after seven shelter. I O major problems so wild. She's in such good shape she she is in such good shape. What do you think speaking of newcomers about Kerry Britingham? I think she's pretty well dressed too. Yeah I like I like her outfits and again just another one that is not I two out there. That kind of puts her own spin on just brands that we like to see him housewives and see on the lot so I really liked seeing her outfits to okay. Well let's do do one more Superlative and let's do brand of the year like what brand do you think had a stellar year in two thousand nineteen in terms of maybe house bites lights wearing it or even just generally speaking. I know everybody is going to be mad. That I'm not going to sage Omani. Dorando will be happy or not saying that because she wants to put that to rest so bad. I'm putting its arrest. No I like Joe Biden. They make beautiful gowns. But I'm a retrofit. Those beated wrap dresses that they I mean almost all of the housewives wore them. Kyle has it in four colors. It's like almost a road draft. It comes in short version. That Kyle hasn't twenty dollars serve whatever and Theresa Worrell in a longer leopard-print at Bravo con. We've just seen a lot of it and address. I mean I don't own address but I have picked it up. It probably probably weighs twenty pounds so beat it relates very well mate. Do you find that people are more interested in sort of the everyday looks that the the housewives are wearing on the shows versus like reunion. That are a little more high fashion or or what. What do you think is more popular? You know. I think there's a balance it just sort of depends like I. I think people like to you know they'll say where's that white t shirt from and Mike while I'm good at this but not that it's really hard to narrow down a white t shirt really. Just it depends on the reader or the follower. Some people like I personally am so into the stuff that I immediately like wanted you post on that and then people are like well you you want these genes or whatever so. I think it's just such a mix of you know what they're wearing every day and what they're wearing out at night the hard question with some of the housewives that follow you. Who Do you get the most like interaction from like? Who is the most supportive? Bronwyn has been amazing this year. I mean she has been so so supportive and so just Nice Tamra from the get-go as band just amazing his promoted the site since you know for ten years so she really is the person that shared content set things off for me and has always been so nice when people say she's not very nice they just take offense to that because she's always been very kind to me. Well that's the thing like well they're Nice Timothy Show but yeah and they've all even to read has been hearing things. Everybody's been really great this year. I think since we've stepped up our instagram stories low. But they've been kind about sharing so I'm just happy. Happy that they are all supportive in that they like what we do because we try to keep it positive so let everyone know where they can find you on social media. You can find us at big blond hair everywhere so twitter facebook instagram. Even pinterest If you're a pinterest person we have more content on their. We've been stepping up and we also have a facebook group now called blond charged Babes where you can interact with other women who love real housewives fashion and ask questions and everything you could ever imagine. Well that's awesome great. We'll thank you so much for coming in happy New Year happy holidays skew. Ut Oh it's so nice to be back and we'll see you in two thousand twenty sounds good so this is not just because she was one of our guests at Bravo con but I always love it when we get the chance to talk to Giselle Bryant so this interview happened right before the real housewives of the Potomac season for reunion and she talked about how therapy has helped her. How can distiller Bassett needs to go on an apology tour? And exactly how she felt about. Michael Darby looming at the reunion. This is my favorite interview. I think because it came at such a great time we got to chat early on in the season so being able to talk to her as it was coming to a close. It was really fun for me. We also had a great moment where we hopped back on the Mike to talk about. Chris Bassett's alleged well to do family in West Virginia. After through the interview. She also showed me a picture of Ashley. Darby's biological father like Megan mentioned earlier which I hadn't seen and he does in fact look remarkably like Michael. Darby here's interview. We are here with the Creole Queen. Giselle Brian from real housewives of Potomac. There's only one creole queen. And yes. It's me yeah so tell us a little bit about how you felt going into this reunion versus some of the other ones because of the other ones I kinda would get too much in my head prior prior to starting the reunion and I kind of try to anticipate who was gonNA scream at me. I and this region. I decided you know what I have. I'm not going to prepare here. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa get a good night's sleep and let the chips fall where they may you were in the hot seat. I think right from the get. Go in terms of the therapy therapy in the work that you've been doing on yourself. And there was sort of a unanimous vote that like yeah you changed for what was it seven minutes and then they gave me five. I said it meet me halfway right. I think that you know yes. Therapy was great for me. I felt like it helped me to see other people's perspective of how I handle situations but Yeah I mean at the end of the day I am who I am right well even so I think we've seen you make a lot of progress in terms of with with your kids like just how you've been working with them and listening to them more. So did that come out of therapy as well. Yes and So this summer I took all of them on individual trips. Just me in them. Which I've never done? I've never even thought to do it. I thought it was more fun when we're all together right but I learned so much about them just spending one on one time with them and they appreciate it and now I share with them like all that I do for instance I got the other morning and I went and got pancake. Mix at five thirty in the morning and normally I wouldn't tell them I would just say no because that's what moms do but now I'm like. Hey guys I got up at five thirty in the morning you make sure you had pancakes. And they're like really so they've really now ars just appreciating me on a whole `nother level. That's great yes going back to the reunion. Did you feel like there. Were still some things left unresolved by the end of it all uh-huh no I think everything pretty much handled. I think that I would have liked to have seen candice and Ashley Mend. Something felt like they're still at each other's necks and Colorado not rightly so I think they can't is actually a huge apology. Actually I think Kennison's mean apology. I think that she might even. Oh Monique an apology. Needs to go on an apology. Tour right yes. We didn't see much of that. I think no she's very steadfast. She's very like strong willed which is a great quality but I think in some ways. It's working a bit against her. I think it's more like temper tantrums. What about Karen? The two of you are just this incredible like frienemie situation and the last time time you were here. Karen was here as well. And it's just the dynamic you guys have is so interesting so coming out of the reunion. Where do you guys stand We Are we're good. Yeah we're good. We're in a good place. I feel like You know being good with Karen is how I've known her for years. It's only here lately. See where we've been at each other's necks so I always try to get back to the good with Karen. She doesn't allow us to go there sometimes but I try. Have you seen the House that she is rantings. Perhaps thing in Potomac leasing with option. What options No I have not but she did tell me that she's having a party coming up and I invited imagine that a housewarming or like she didn't say what she said. Old School Hugo Party. Okay and I know what that is because I've cared for years I will not be bringing a pizza. I I will just be bringing myself. What about baking cookies? No none of that so god willing. There is a next season. Will there be another lobby. You fight or are we done with that. I want to be so dumb at that I really do. The problem is typically. We're in a lobby because we've travelled like for a while and I'm I'm tired right. Karen's tired and we're all we get cranky so it never really works out well but I mean I I would like for Karen and I to be friends and stay in a good space at least for half a year. Okay thirty thirty days so you dropped a big bomb on everybody at the reunion that you are working things out and back together with your ex. So congratulations on that thank you did you feel any inspiration. Perhaps from Robin and John and their relationship or was it everything kind of individual. There now didn't feel inspiration from them. But Robin gets a how I I am totally team Robina. Yeah just off of my story right. He's it's Kinda weird because he's never like not been in my life Even when we were divorced I mean we're still divorced I but he's never gone away. Yeah because of our kids but we I'm happy with where we are right now. I'm happy that we're are moving in a direction. You know just kind of like bring the whole family back together. I have so much admiration and respect for who he is and I think it's mutual. So where are you guys right now. Are you still in sort of this. Like rediscovery phase I think we've rediscovered each other. Okay but it is. We're not in a rush for anything right So it is us just being together and taking our time with it. How what are the girls? Think about it. It's weird they. They're a little confused because they've never known us to together so they an and they also know why we got divorced and they just want to make sure. The daddy doesn't do anything wrong again. How are are you learning to rebuild? That trust again is that yeah. Is that part of your therapy process. Now no actually feel like I let it go you know. We got divorced twelve twelve years ago. Yeah so it's been over a decade right so if I'm still holding onto something from we got divorced. There's something wrong with me I have seen Ham Hamm mature in a way that I don't even think about the past anymore and even when people bring it up. I'm like been there done that over that and I feel like if if I can't look if I can't put a high me then we don't have a chance for future. Yeah so I put it behind me last night. Watch what happens live and the question came up about fade dra those a little bit of shade there who's who through the shape let's just anti going a little shady too. So what if you ran into fade. Dra What would that conversation look. I've seen major okay And I mean there is conversation. There's nothing to say I. She's doing her thing. She's living her fabulous life and I'm doing mine so she is under the belief that he is Mr Chocolate. Jamal understand that. No no I don't know if she's up the balloon. I think that there was rumor that he was Mr Chuck. Okay yes and that is not what you believe. I believe that I'm going to let that. Data DOC is dead right here now recipes. So you talked about taking girls on a separate vacation. Where did you go with everybody? The the question so I went to New Orleans with angel. we went to the we did the whole essence fast all that I went to For came to New York with adore four and we did New York in the Hamptons and grace I took her. I was like grace girl where you WanNa go and she was like nowhere teenager. Who is not really feeling mommy at any given moment so we went to Atlantic city? Oh which was a little weird man who goes to Atlantic City. It turned out to be very nice. That's what they're there. was there gambling. No No to God ready we stay. We went to the pool all day. Eight a bunch of food and then we came home. Okay yes yes for like two days. Was it like beach weather. We stayed in the pool all day. That's perfect yes. So let's think about if you were to reconcile L.. Get married again Would you opt for rings or would you go the Robin route do tattoos. I'm getting doubled the ringside I had last time. 'cause yeah now that's what she does. My ring last time was about four or five carrots. So do the math. So we're going to upgrade. I think that's fair. I discussed that with him. Yeah well you're hearing a hair I to be honest with you. I would like something that probably a little less traditional like I would. I mean You know like emeralds like different colored stones. I think would be nice or like really do anything. Yeah you've done it once already so this could have fun with it. Yeah and do something different. Yeah but tattoos no no. Let's talk a little bit about part two of the reunion. What was the vibe in the room when Michael joined the SAT? Okay so Michael Looking over the banister and watching us as we were doing our thing. I felt a little little like look dude. It's not your turn when it's your turn you will put on a suit jacket and you will come down and you behind your wife otherwise go to your little green room or go to the corner or go somewhere and sit because this that I just felt like he was like big brother like watching over us to Russia. We didn't see anything wrong. I didn't like it It was a little tense with Michael. Darby came out. Because we've all talked about Michael. Yeah we've all had our shady moments we might go so we were all like Now we gotta face him That's why they talk about it anymore right but I'm having that we did with dumb with it. I don't need to ever talk about him. A penis but Graf again. Do you feel like when the reunion was over. The Darby's and everyone else in the room was there a sense of peace. was there a sense of resolve or was it sort of like this is never going to I think that out I was I was at peace with it. I'm happy that Ashley shared with me. That she felt like I was a little too shady Because I thought she got my shady humor. Apparently right so I was. I was kind of happy with them just expressing everything I was taken aback by some of the things that Mike was saying and just kind of him not owning. What happened for forget like if you really actually did it? You're not owning that. This was horrible for your wife to go through so I didn't like that but Yeah I think everybody got everything off their chest. It was a moment. Have you visited baby dean yet. So I think I'm GONNA see baby team very soon. Okay Ashley has been in a Mommy bubble. She is kind of not wanting to break her bubble. And I'm giving her respect but I think I'm GONNA have to pop that bubble. I need to see baby here. Who Do you think he looks more like? What are you talking talking about just like Michael? I mean I just wanted to see what you thought where we've gone back and forth in this office I am. I'm like he was one hundred percent. Michael Oh actually gave birth to Michael. I mean that looks exactly like Michael Acute aversion a smaller cutie. I guess yes you know what I wanted to ask you. Is You mentioned at the reunion that there is a picture of Ashley's father floating around and I tried to Google it really quickly. You couldn't find it it so I'm very curious to know because I wanNA compare. I'm trying to think of who who sent it to me because you know somebody sent it to me right and to send it to you. I gotTa figure out where I saw it but yes he does look like Michael. That's interesting And I I don't I shouldn't say that white man with Blue Eyes all look alike. 'cause y'all don't amyloid emily man with Blue Eyes just like Michael Right. They look very similar. But I I will try to dig please in my phone and find out because I found it interesting to do that. Ashleigh also kind of confronted that part of her where it was like the daddy issues quote unquote where she was kind of like. Maybe I do have some unresolved issues with my father and that's the similarities is between Michael. Because I feel like that's the conversation. A lot of people have had about their relationship. Viewers you guys on the show so it was interesting to see her kind of take that journey and recognize it Absolutely and I feel like she's not she's very smart. Se knows. She's got some daddy issues as she should. I mean nobody goes through that unscathed. Yeah I think that it it was. She told me that she didn't have the guts to go. Knock on his door without the cameras. Right the cameras Kinda gave for a little bit more like Gusto to do it. Yeah and I'm happy that she did and she's happy that she did cous cous. Sheila got a little bit of closure but going back to the picture of her dead. It was posted hosted because people were like this is the whole. That won't talk to Ashley like it was like team Ashley. Good okay about the picture. Yeah so I was. That's why I brought it up because I'm like. This is so great that everybody is like riding hard for you. Not Great for your dad. Like great for Ashley. Well another thing I wanted to ask was it comes up about out. Kris Bassett's family where he's from so I tried to Google that really quickly and couldn't find another thing so you were trying to google a very rich family. That owns half of West Virginia because yes. That's basically what we were told. You'll never find doesn't exist interesting. I've been trying to find this very rich family as a matter of fact I've asked canister take us to west. Virginia 'cause I WANNA meet this guy I want to be treated like royalty. 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