15 Burst results for "Alex Kitman"
"alex kitman" Discussed on Techmeme Ride Home
"Today, some sad news, according to a report from insider Microsoft scrapped plans for a HoloLens three in 2021, shifting instead to a mixed reality device is going to produce with Samsung and leaving the HoloLens team quote inflamed. So will we ever see another hollow lens quote while Microsoft insists it's committed to HoloLens and will release new versions in the future. Three insiders say Microsoft and recent months scrapped plans for what would have been the HoloLens three, and at least one person expects that this is the end of the road, at least for the product as we know it. Sources say Microsoft has also agreed to a partnership with Samsung to develop a new mixed reality device that has inflamed divisions within the team. A high profile Pentagon contract that wants burnish the HoloLens image is behind schedule, plagued by quality and performance problems. And internal disagreements about the priorities of Microsoft's broader mixed reality strategy have triggered a wave of departures and raise doubts about its commitment to the HoloLens device. Inside Microsoft's mixed reality unit run by HoloLens co creator and Microsoft technical fellow Alex kitman, more than 20 current and former employees who spoke to insider described confusion and strategic uncertainty as different factions argue about its future. The factions in recent months have been split on whether the mixed reality unit should double down on its own hardware or put more firepower behind trying to build the go to software platform for the metaverse and whether the unit should continue to focus on Microsoft's main customer base of enterprise customers or create products for consumers. Ruben caballero, a former Apple executive Microsoft hired in 2020 to run device engineering and mixed reality and AI under kitman. Once the team to focus on consumers and the metaverse, at odds with those who believe Microsoft should double down on the enterprise market and the military some insiders say, it's unclear which, if any of these different visions for the future of the unit are currently favored or even being pursued by management, even to some within the company. But the Microsoft insider suggests that it's that very sense of uncertainty that's contributed to lower team morale and driven some towards rivals like Facebook parent company meta quote. You'd have to say all things considered. This has been a pretty tough day for the metaverse. No Twitter space tonight, Chris and I are taking the week off for various reasons, including my birthday. Gonna head upstate this weekend to hopefully just read books, play in the snow, maybe ski a little bit, play some Nintendo with the kids, and not check the news. For about 48 hours. So nothing big happened this weekend. I will be here tomorrow though before we leave. So talk to you then..
Microsoft's Pentagon Deal Validates The AR Industry
"News for the augmented reality industry. Maybe the biggest news in the history of this nascent. The military says microsoft will build one hundred and twenty thousand custom. Hololens headsets for the us army. Validation of the use case for a are in some very serious real world conditions. Yes but also look at how much this validates the hololens as a business microsoft says the contract could be worth up to twenty one point. Eight billion dollars over ten years. Think of all those years and billions of dollars spent on moon shots over at google and in one fell swoop. Microsoft has been like yeah. Hold our beer as brad sam's tweeted and just like the rnd costs for this product have been more than recovered and quote and something tells me if these things prove useful we could eventually see way more than one hundred and twenty thousand units ordered quoting cnbc. This deal follows a four hundred and eighty million dollar contracts microsoft received to give the army prototypes of the integrated visual system or es in two thousand eighteen. The new deal will involve providing production versions the standard issue. Helen's which cost thirty five hundred dollars enables people to see holograms overlaid over their actual environments and interact using hand and voice gestures in iva s. Prototype that a cnbc reporter trade out in two thousand nineteen display a map and a compass and had thermal imaging to reveal people in the dark. The system could also show the aim for a weapon. Quote the ivy a headset based on holland's and augmented by microsoft azure cloud services delivers a platform. That will keep soldiers safer and make them more effective. Alex kitman a technical fellow at microsoft and the person who introduced the helen's in two thousand fifteen wrote in a blog post quote. The program delivers enhanced situational awareness enabling information sharing and decision making in a variety of scenarios and quote. The headset enables soldiers to fight rehearse and train in one system. The army said in a statement. The contract which was awarded on friday has a five year base period where they five year option after that and army spokesperson told cnbc an email. The pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for
Microsoft unveils Mesh, and dives into mixed reality
"Microsoft also released to reporters from their. Nda's to talk about something called microsoft mesh. It's microsoft system for virtual tele presence being demonstrated on hollow lens but meant to work with whatever mixed reality headset. You're wearing microsoft. Wants all the people including to work with this avatars in microsoft mess are mostly cartoons. But you can scan yourself to become something. Microsoft is calling a hollow something that microsoft technical fellow alex kitman actually showed up at the nineteen early versions of mesh. Were used by diplo at burning man's virtual event if you remember that niantic is working on using mesh for polk mongo where people were headsets out in the real world could have they're poking on battles in the real world cirque du soleil founder a guy labor labor day is developing virtual immersive theater spaces with the hanae world project. So you wouldn't have to be at the theater to be able to experience the theatrical production james cameron's xs using it for people to experience three d maps of what deep divers are discovering on the ocean floor so people can be up in an office on the boat and see what the probe or the divers are seeing down on the floor. Essentially this is microsoft's played to be the platform for collaborative mixed reality. All of ignite was conducted on microsoft. Mesh if you had the right equipment you could access it that way all space. vr apps. We'll get an upgrade to support. Mash and a preview app is coming to hollow lens. Those are the first two ways you'll be able to see it but it's also planned to come to teams and dynamics three sixty five developer tools are expected in the coming months for that third party integration that they're hoping to get But this is a very robust platform has a lot of promise proofs always in the pudding when you get people actually working on it. How well it actually works and what people use it for but microsoft really smart making an early play to say. Yeah we got hololens but we want to be the platform that everybody
"alex kitman" Discussed on Home Gadget Geeks
"That he's a longtime listener and been a home servers. Show Home Gadget Geek support for time. Jim has done a lot of traveling. We're GONNA talk a little bit about that. Tonight joins some travel tips as well. You guys know I'm going to London and so it's been kind of a travel fast a little bit. We've been talking about it but Jim put together some Experiences around flight had flights in electronic entertainment money and packing and photos and data and power. We're going to talk about some of those tonight. Posted out there at the average Guy Dot TV. Don't nope a link in the show notes as well. Jim Thanks for sending. That is actually an excerpt of a bigger post. That I'M GONNA post I don't know a couple. Maybe when I get back from London in and take a look at it Jim. I appreciate you doing that if you have something you WanNa post which maybe don't want to write it Semi some notes sunny something and we'll work on it. It's Jim At the average Guy Dot TV. May We get a post up for you. That can stuff a super helpful and don't forget we don't just post the podcast there. There are articles there from time to time is introduced him a little bit earlier. dwayne Robinson is back with us in Dwayne. I think you're eight appearance here. I think currently the record holder at this point at ten. You get a t shirt by the way really saying I think this is a well. I Hey look we're keeping it alive. You guys remember what we talked about. Last time we broke it last time but then we brought it back though. It's only in podcast the end in four. And you know I. I didn't even plan that this time. I'm either it just I contacted you and said Hey. Can you come and you checked it some dates and we had no I had no idea But so get so the the streak while sort of we we're I we can't well. We're there were two to sixty six to seventy three to ninety four three forty four three fifty four three seventy four three ninety one on twenty four one one of these things. It's not like the other Mike. How did you let me get three ninety? One in there and not been three ninety four-man it should have been blamed on. He's the he's the podcast lawyer. That's the one that's on me. I'm not gonNA proofreading as loss. We regard give you one job complaint. Yeah give failed how you been busy busy busy busy. You've been traveling all over for sure what Give me one. Quick travel highlight like in the last. Let's see last time. We saw you three ninety one so that was twenty-five shows ago there's a while what give you one highlight like what what's been something cool. It doesn't have to be work related but in your travels what's been when cool thing you've seen but but I guess we were talking earlier. This was my second October fest in Munich. Which is pretty awesome? And then I think going when I I went to Shanghai China and got to stay in the West in there. I know this is gonNA sound funny but the toilet they had one of those like crazy like super automated light with a remote control. Toilet thing that you would walk in the middle of the night with a night light and he would automatically open. It was the craziest thing I really in in. That room has walls that you had hit a button and they would go transparent parents and stuff and so. This is a really really neat. I don't think I necessarily necessarily want to go back to the hotel room was amazing. Hotel Room is amazing. China's struggle right now. I'm hearing that from a lot of Americans and such coming in and and out of there so but there's some cool technology in October fest would be an awesome experience. I never in the two octobers for you too. I think I was there in Germany for two octobers. I never made it down there for October fest and it really wish I had. So here's an interesting too that in October fest isn't typically clearly a majority of it is not nocco most of its in September most of us in September because they moved it forward to get better weather But Hey if you're going to London you can get on. GW are trained and head out and on. That train will take you into bath. And I did go go to bath. Which Botha's like the Roman baths and stuff you and all and it has a really cool abby and all their it's a Great little place to visit my. My boss lives right down from that which I don't know Jim. If the last time I was on the show now I am. I am a program manager for microscope product. Now a little bit about that. Give me give us a quick run down what you're currently doing for Microsoft. Whatever you can tell us and the cool thing is just got back from McKnight so now ignite if anybody were to ever see me in person you can come come out to one of the major Microsoft Events Journalism working those events now over in the BOT framework area so ion basically ah the product that I work on is our white labeled virtual assistant and what we basically did? Is We a lot of people. We kept wanting to build their own Cortana there on a word the lady as we are Our lady a in the back over here And so or even your on g assistant or whatever I WANNA say but the point is is that if you want to build like some really unique experiences that are specific for several different things. Like if you were company that had hotel's properties and and you wanted to be able to say hey assistant I need new towels. Are I wanNA order room service or something like that. Then you really aren't GonNa want to use a commodity assistant to do that or if you're in a BMW NEWSDAY HEY BMW for example which is one of the things that this public that we've been working on We basically build a open source platform for you to go do that on top about framework and language understanding and and so you can do full natural language understanding and I think the new cool things are and I put links in the show notes For this if people are interested you can go and and you can download for. It's open source it's free you can go get a hold of it In twenty minutes of your own white labeled virtual assistant. Yep that's Actually yeah there you go. Thanks for and then The thing we showcase that went public preview at ignite that everyone was really excited. About how so imagine this is your white label virtual assistant. We made like some skills for you so that you can get a hold of those and those are open sources horses well but then what we what we really started showcasing as the new tool called framework composer and bought framework composer is a visual designer. Her that builds the C.. Sharp Code and everything for you so that you can build your own skills in your on dialogues and the cool thing is if you build it on our our stuff We have adopters that. Lets you plug it into lady and to Google assisted or into Cortana or into slack or into whatever it's like I think it's somewhere like over fifty different places that you can plug these things into and even in our get hub repository. We built say An open source android application that you can compile put it on your phone and then pointed at your your implementation and you can you have your own assistant naked. Even take over his default assistant on the device. I'm going to be adding keyword spotting so you can say hey gem and talk to I The freakiness thing that I got to see. We have this technology called neural. T T s you ever heard of this thing so you can't get a hold old of it per se to do your own voice font you can get a hold of it in news. One of our existing voices is but we offer the ability to go to one of our recording studios in record. You're on what we call voice fine and and it's scary because we've it's to a point where deep faking is really real you record yourself and you do do it and we can make you sound just like you're you can't tell the difference and the guy who owns a piece is names Heiko and he's from chart well. He's German from Germany historically but has been in the US for a very long time. He's got a bit of a German accent and he went. When did this and recorded this thing? And we had the white label assistant running on a commodity speaker that looks a lot like the word speakers speakers and he was like Joe Heiko and it comes back and starts talking just like him and like freak me out. I think that's the the one thing that really freaked me out when I went lately to anything it because it was scary that it sounded just like him in deep. Faking right take all that. Yeah Yeah Yeah. And the reason they don't make it public is we. Were trying to be like you is a bit of an ethical thing. Yeah you don't Juggling ethical thing because we can record like we took all the master chief voices that recordings that we can find on youtube and we ran it through it made a whole master chief voice find and we took some recordings the Sachin Adela and Alex Kitman and made ones. And if you know either of them if you've ever heard them speak they we have a very unique voice on either of them and it's scary. It's like way too good but aw here there you know here go ahead. I think there's GonNa be a whole thing. I just think about house affects my profession. I think there's going to have to be a hole in their industry for. It's almost like evidence. Verification right like e discovery was a big new industry that came across when we started needing email search and on companies that focus on going in and doing your e discovery before you when it comes down to that but I think verification almost on even like you know voice recording. Here's the phone call. Well was that really the phone call. Is that the guy. It sounds like the guy. But he's this guy. Look at this video right because even the deed on the videos are even getting really good. We're looks just like their face. It could be them and she's yeah you're right. The ethical side around on that is extremely interesting. Yeah we played around with some other like interesting hardware. Sky Came to a meeting and we were just it. It wasn't something we were gonNA ever necessarily bring to market. We were just screwing around right with. How could we do stuff? And how cheap could we get a device so that you could. They make a commodity device right. And you'd be amazed..
"alex kitman" Discussed on KTOK
"On Justice. Hank weinbloom, Fox News. Onset at the mobile world. Congress happening now in Barcelona Microsoft took the wraps off an entirely new way to see the world. I'm extremely proud to introduce to all of you hollow ends to Alex kitman with Microsoft hololens to adapt you adapts to your hands and goes beyond gestures to give you the satisfaction of direct manipulation leading an experience. What if feels like for the first time to actually touch a hologram outside of the beefed up displays that will show an even more lifelike overlay on reality. The hololens to won't require any calibration between users. It contains two cameras that detect a user's pupil to adjust the images on the display one thing that didn't improve was the price the hololens to will sell for thirty five hundred bucks. But an examples that it's unraveling. It seems to be a better fit for business for now until prices come down to let us all be immersed in mixed reality with FOX on tech. I'm brett. Larssen Fox News. I'm Hank weinbloom and the word of the week award goes to the Oscar goes, it's time to open the envelope. And learn the secret to why they call it. Oscar, amazingly, no one knows for sure one story has it that in nineteen thirty-one a former executive at the motion picture academy. Margaret Herrick thought the statue looked like her uncle Oscar and the name stuck her uncle apparently looks like a golden naked man with no face another story. Former Hollywood columnist Sidney skull ski says he got fed up with actors taking themselves seriously. So he brought back old vaudeville bid where a comedian says to the orchestra leader. Would you like a cigar Oscar then Yanks away as he grabs for it? The Oscar they're being for cigar maker Oscar Hammerstein. My grandfather of the more lastingly famous lyricist who won an Oscar for this song. And Oscar for an Oscar thanking the academy with your word of the week. Hank weinbloom, Fox News. Fox on love with Ashley Papa they say time heals all when it comes to breakup, regardless of how long you've been together marriage and family therapist. Dr. Jane Greer has tips to help get over a break-up the healthy way. If you really are devastated and really need to get over this and move on its first role is to have no contact into stop following them on social media, try and really disconnect any contact or just seeing a picture of your accent. Social media can really set you back. And Grier says bring the focus back to you and your life. So that means, you know, making plans not just for the weekend. But give yourself something to look forward to something like a vacation a new class or doing something you weren't able to do when you were in the relationship. It's really about changing up the environments that you don't like just marinade in all the difficult feelings that you're having how you handle the break-up we'll make all the difference in how quickly and healthy you bounce back with FOX on love. I'm actually Papa. The dean's list with Janice. Dean UPS driver from North Carolina makes the dean's list for following his gut and becoming a hometown hero. Todd. Holland works in Ashby North Carolina as he was dropping off a package for one of his customers. He noticed that another package, which he had delivered a few days. Previously was still outside the front door. That's when he said he knew in his got that something was wrong. He began pounding on the door and yelling for an answer. When he tried to open the door and found that it was unlocked. He entered the house and found the homeowner lying on the floor. He then dialed nine one and waited with the man until paramedics arrived. He now hopes that his story will inspire other delivery drivers to show the same amount of care and attention to their customers a lot of these people that we deliver especially in these rural areas us the FedEx man in the mailman might be the only people they say during the weight, I tell them if you realize and get a gut feeling that something is wrong. You know, check it out because it it probably is. Thank you. Todd Holland for your great instincts. You made the dean's list. Janice. Dean, Fox News. From America's election headquarters. Democrats trying to woo early. State voters are hearing that when it comes to beating Donald Trump, we're desperate, but in early states in the last week potential democratic primary goers there are much more passionate about things like health care. What are you gonna do to offer quality healthcare to all Americans in South Carolina? Climate change is seen as a unique threat. I think our stay is very vulnerable with the rising seas ultimately people want presidential hopefuls.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Gadget Lab Podcast
"Is not a new field in the world of mechanical systems. But something that Microsoft is using now using these tiny little mirrors basically to control the angle of the field of you, which means a bigger field of you. And then because Microsoft talks a lot about cloud and edge these days ever since option Adela took over a CEO five years ago. They talked a lot about cloud in a lot about like, Azure, right because Azure, is increasingly important part of Microsoft's business, and so everything's gotta collect connected. The cloud now while it's like, it's like Microsoft buzzwords connect or connect connect with the care connector the see, Azure, cloud. But anyway, so here's the thing. Microsoft claims that they're not going to hype this device, and they didn't hype the first one going. To hype this one because they believe that truly transformative technologies aren't hyped. That's on this is early. True. I remember a lot of hype around the launch of the first hollow lines. But one thing that is true that Microsoft does seem to be a little more focused about who this is four and the kind of customer that they're ultimately building this four and kind of applications they wanna see running on it and what they see the benefit being like running a I proceed on your head. So that's something I got talked to Alex about. So let's listen. I'm speaking with Alex kitman here at Microsoft in Redmond Washington. And I've just taken a look at the new version of hololens Helen's to I'm gonna continue my conversation with Alex. We were just chatting earlier. But for the sake of your listening pleasure. So thanks everybody for joining us, Alex. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you for having me. Okay. So I'm gonna move this microphone between us. And if you if any of you hear any room noise, that's because there are people working here. They didn't just turn Microsoft into my podcast studio for the day. So we were just talking a little bit about how to and how one of the things that you've said frequently throughout the day today is this idea that it's more intelligent now because it's running in the cloud. It's operating in the cloud. What does that mean? Exactly. Because the first version of Holland's was also connected to the internet. Obviously. That's a great question. So yes, Holland's one is is fully Internet-connected hololens to remains fully internet connected. Perhaps a better way to describe. It is to say that hololens two was designed from the ground up to essentially come alive or light up when he comes in contact with Azure, as ROY is Microsoft's intelligent cloud, and with hololens to although there is no requirement that attach is to the Azure, cloud when the two things come together. New magic happens. For example, we run a state of the art industry defining artificial intelligence on hololens for Holland's one hololens to but because they run on battery and because they run on hololens. You are doing things where you think in milliseconds I'm wearing a sensor trying to couch late an eye movement. Couple of milliseconds trying to put a hologram on top of a table couple of milliseconds. But for a lot of experiences example, you're trying to calculate a physics humilation over the entire world. Milliseconds is not a requirement. If this took for example, three four five seconds for you to be able to recalculate the physics of the world. It's not a big deal. So what we've done with Holland's two is partitioned a lot of our workloads between hololens and in our Azure. Cloud to say, hey, the device fully works off-line or connected to to anywhere else with the level of precision, you would expect in an industry defining the vice-like hall lands. But when you couple it with the, Azure, cloud, you just get a bunch of new workloads that open up tend to think about those workloads just being big bigger search spaces or more precise versions, the example, us this morning to share with your with your podcast, folks is, you know, take spatial mapping the the ability. We have to measure the place you're into place a hologram on top of it..
"alex kitman" Discussed on Gadget Lab Podcast
"Oh, I think the first person I've ever heard say you were snorkeling in the winter and taco. Yeah. Well, you know, it's extremely cool. I thought it was kind of fun joke to think of like somebody going to go in the middle of February to snorkel. Yeah. See you didn't snorkel. No. So you started this podcast with false information. Yeah. But everyone should continue listening. Yeah. Really gets better. I swear. And if we learned anything this week, it's that a person who's wants a liar isn't necessarily always Aligarh or a person who lies is by definition, a liar liar liar pants on fire. Depends on your perspective. Really does goodness. Talking about Michael Kohn, I presume me. No. Yes. The other Michael. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. This is not a podcast about politics. It's podcast where we take through technology news, and what happened this week, and we break down the gadgets, the apps and the services that you need to know about the show is not just about gadgets. It's about a relationship with them. And how the impact our lives. That's right. And it's not just about our lives as journalists and tech consumers. It's also about how technology is changing the lives of frontline workers and warehouse workers and people in construction and in design and even in the military, and we're going to talk a lot more about that later in the show because we have a special guest this week. That's right. Alex kitman who is a technical fellow at Microsoft, that's actually his title. But he's better known as the inventor of connect and also works on whole lens. He sits down with us and the gadget lab this week to talk about the new hololens. Yep. And you talk about Microsoft's vision for mixed. Reality. Now, we taped this last month at Microsoft's headquarters in Redmond Washington. But hololens to wasn't announced yet at the time that we taped. And now it is. So we're going to run the podcast for you. That is very exciting before we get to Alex. Let's go through the news the week. Yes. Okay. So if you're an Amazon at all these days, you might notice two things one being that Amazon's own product seem to increasingly showing up near the top of your search results. Even if you're not searching.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Tech News Today
"Sensing arm oceans, well, there are a lot. So there's a lot of stuff that could be concerning. If you think about the fact that we're in an era where all of our data about ourselves is kind of collected made an algorithm is reserve living models to be to be studied. We had this with quantified self and fitness trackers. So capturing emotion or capturing where is are looking. I've talked to a lot of people in who work in a are and work in these fields that have suggested research and looking in his tube. And how much suggests intent how much that can flag what you're thinking about. And whether they'll be outgrew them's that that connect those. And what mean you'd be flagged that mean that be used to identify your interest in something kind of sounds like mine reading, and it may not be far from that. Which is kind of crazy, basically once you have there is I tracking already out there on a professional level where it's being used for that to look at heat maps of where people are looking, and when you have that deployed on a larger scale right now enterprise. It's kinda covered under the umbrella of who's opting into that. But on a consumer level, they're all sorts of questions mean we look at like anyone Google or or Facebook or at people making VR headsets, what will happen with that data. What will be used for an APs right now. There's a lot of talk about security. About you know, how that gets locked down. But you know, that's that was also the talk about a lot of other types of data in the past decade or more. So I think that's a big question. And I'm also curious to to a Microsoft, Alex kitman he was talking about how it can help. Just be more aware of what were you're looking at what you're doing. And again, kind of forged the gap to have a and other software programs seem to meet your interests. But it gets it gets very weird about that. What you know what happens with that? And it will be a way of knowing where your eyes are wandering, and I mean from an enterprise level. Yes. You opt into but then there's the idea of what your rights as an employee. I mean, you think about how Amazon employees are treated and others like in in terms of for the sake of officiency, like if you are working on an semi line where you know, you get your pay docked if you look away from, you know, it's yeah. I mean, I don't wanna go all this topiary. But I do wanna go all. All the Soviets. There's a that's a big question. Also that goes right into a fishy. Flight simular offer programs or or others. That are using I tracking. Now that are looking at how people are paying attention to try to understand where maybe mistakes are made or were were attention drifts might help design the.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Tech News Today
"But it's not it's not. Everything it needs to be yet. And I think Microsoft also acknowledges that so the question is how much of a stone is this to what the next phases? But it's an interesting step. It's always about what's next. What's next? Even when we were, you know, when a company releases the next version, the hardware is like, okay. That's great. But what's coming after this one? It's like we don't rest so talk a little bit about the hand tracking. Then did you did it feel more natural were there areas that you were like that's just not quite raining like how what what would you envision it should enable? And did it satisfy that for you? Question. We'll hand tracking compared to the first Holland's for those who had used. It was basically like a click your finger and point. So there was no real motion control per se going from that it was much more like a there were few very set demos where we take objects, and I was grabbing a corner and pulling or they'd have gash board Reichen push things. And that was nice to see. But I've also seen stuff at the really high end like I would say a leap motion like a near range hand tracking that I've seen with VR headsets where you can sell your hands moving and all of both your hands, and you can see the way they move. I didn't see that elemental though, Microsoft promises that the twenty five points per hand. So I didn't get a hand outline it felt good. But the thing that's missing is still a sense of feedback. So if I'm grabbing an object, it is still weird to know when did you really grab it? And sometimes there were times where I would feel that. Literally your hands kind of passing through the ghost of it. And you're supposed to kinda grab it from the mental and pull and so the question of precision on that. Like when does it when do you really click it so to speak with your hands might be saying that's a little bit weird in practice and in your experience with it. Like, I'm kind of curious what what would you envision would be a good solution for that? I mean, I'm trying to like picture how you add that like feedback into your hands. When you pick up an object on one hand. It's really great to have the open kind of world experience of you. Don't need a controller. You just use your hands in the air. But on the other hand that feedback is would be super important. So what would that be with that be possibly in the future like some sort of like out or hand glove of some sort that that gives you that kick with that be satisfied? You think that's a good question gloves definitely out there that have hap Dick's? That's interesting. Then of course, you have putting on these gloves to use. It should be annoying VR uses those controllers and asked Alex kitman who cr-. Rated the Hollands and they connect about that. He said sure we could create controllers like that. But they don't seem to want to do it yet. Maybe they will. I think those controllers are nice VR for those who are creating VR because you can do very quickly with with a fast feedback and not have to always be physically grabbing. I think over time the question is does that reaching for stuff become fatiguing? But I also wonder if like I think about smart watches, you know, what if you work on your wrist that would buzz and give you feedback. So maybe that would be enough. I think just a little something to give you a sense of when you're contacting things if they really want people to create with this. And I think they do even from an industrial sense. I don't know how much this is going to get annoying in the long term. You know, you're gonna feel like you're doing too much of this. Then again, Microsoft has also saying you'll be using your laptop and you'll be using your phone as well. You talked a little bit about the app guides. Now was that just for the enterprise, or is that something that I could use to like fix my microwave or like do open heart surgery myself put together your idea furniture?.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Windows Weekly
"We've actually been there several times that we we of made a point of going back to a bunch of places. We went there tomato toast, by the way. I'd never. Yeah. Had specialty. Yeah. I. Yeah. Mike for you on your pictures as who are all those random people in your pictures. Joe, we know people everywhere now. Nice. Nice. I suddenly. Yeah. Swingers or something like that? Like who are these people? Just look like you guys knew them. And I'm like, I wonder who those people We do. do. I mean there. Yeah. It's an interesting crowd. It's like you're in Barcelona. And it's a woman from France a guy from the Netherlands woman from re not Romania. We should point on this. It's not. It wasn't Paul Stephanie. Oh, and then my wife who's from Massachusetts. Yes. Exactly. Right. Mary. Marriages says are these people hololens users? Not yet. Soon. That's funny. You really did make friends. Yeah. Mary Jo you, probably don't know this about bars. But there are a really good place to meet people. Crisci? Yeah. Look at you with Alex kitman. I'm like, okay. Your I asked him if I could take a picture, he said sure, and I started taking pictures. He goes, no, no, we're gonna take a selfie together. I'm like, oh, God, give me a minute. Then because it's. At least he didn't say to you at Julie Larsen. Green. Did be nice Paul only if your click. Obviously, not the way may twenty. Crony dice. Yeah. Especially for food pitchers. It's stonning and you flew Norwegian. Yeah. Yeah. I was that. It's great. Yeah. We've done. We've flown them. A few times though. Nice direct flight cheap. Nice new plan. You know? You know? Oh, you'll see the Samsung booth briefly this photo set. While way walking by as quickly as possible is closed..
"alex kitman" Discussed on Windows Weekly
"But you know, like, I said, I mean. Originally. I mean, they were showing games. I mean who knew who knows. I mean, maybe people will, you know, make aims with this thing. But I saw a couple interviews with Alex kitman from the folks they pre briefed about this saying, you know, someday this will be for gaming, and I'm like, yeah. Let's see because I think such an adult might have other ideas, unless, you know, once ex cloud happens, and we're talking about gaming on every windows ten base platform and every other kind of platform, maybe then it will. But for now now. Yeah. I mean, I I still think virtual reality makes more sense for gaming, then artificial augmented reality, rather. But yes. Beer. I know I think it's better than they are for gaming. Yeah. Right. That may change over time. And look this thing could abs- absolutely head in that direction. I mean it right now it's still very expensive. It's less expensive than it was. But. I don't want to a lot of people who are covering this almost thought it was just a promo for Azure, that it hardware hardware was just kind of a use case for Azure. I mean, honestly. Joe grease. Well, we're just real quick though. The one thing I wanted just to kind of. No, actually when you go ahead. Because I have a follow on to that. Okay. Yes. Right. So when when I when I started hearing about this. I was thinking, okay. You know, the whole lens one could connect to Azure, like you could connect. It's as rector directory, you could do things with cognitive services with it. But they never really pushed it as an Azure device. Like, you've never heard them say it's better with Azure. But this one I think this is all about Azer, right? Because the two main things that they demo there around Asher, the spatial anchors, and the remote rendering, this is like okay now, I get why they're making a hall, and so they can sell more, Azure services. Sure, they want to sell Holand. They are not going to take, you know, turn away money. But the real reason they're doing this to sell services naming naming all the others features dynamics three sixty five x. Yep. I think there is no, Azure, era Holland's is a standalone business doesn't make any sense for Microsoft. This thing never sell in the numbers where that makes sense. That is not why they make this. Yes, they're not going to say no to the money. I mean Fisher as your as part of a much bigger puzzle. For my I'm sorry. She says a Holland's is part of a much bigger puzzle for Microsoft, and that it can offer to its customers that other companies cannot right? And so the, you know in the same sense that there are thousands probably of different Azure services now many which targets specific vertical markets. This is what this does is well in hardware for him. This is something that AWS customers can't get from Amazon. They can't actually get it from any Amazon's partners either maybe someday, but they would have to source it from different people places companies. And then make sure that these things work together in some kind of a seamless fashion, whereas this fits into Microsoft's, Azure, scheme or their subscription cloud services. Whatever much more naturally. I I it's not as absolute as this. But no-one buying.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Daily Tech News Show
"And it's honestly not all that bad news because the market in general is declining and apple isn't declining as fast as Yami. So you know, there's there's a tiny bit of good news in there for apple. I guess, and you know, like, we said last this just this is just a broader trend of a market, that's matured, and and you know, consumers don't feel that don't feel compelled to upgrade as often as they have maybe in a year. Space. So it's it's, you know, it's it's it's gonna take a shift on on the business side of, you know, how do you develop these processes you just wanted to have a new shiny, bright hardware, or do you want to move slowly into services where you can continually sell into it overtime. So people just kind of sitting on what they have. Yeah. And I know it's tempting and it's not wholly unjustified to look at. Whether China's economy is a whole slowing down as the cause or or maybe the trade conflict with the United States is the causing those do contribute to this. I personally think that the more important thing here is that even without a slowing economy and trade conflicts, China would be saturated the smartphone markets in Europe and the United States have slowed down to so really if you're a smartphone maker, you've got to be looking at India sub Saharan Africa, and and maybe a few other places to figure out where you want to grow. If you want to continue to grow. Apple announced that health records on iphone will soon allow I'm sorry. I got ahead of myself. Let's talk Microsoft first, Microsoft police day, forty two second video teaser for its precedent mobile world, congress February twenty fourth it shows a lot of morpheus blobs and fibers some of which could be wires or processors. But who knows what it really does is look like something you might see in VR or maybe a are. And it has everyone assuming it'll have to do with hololens too. But you can't tell anything from this video more indicative is the previously known fact that we've mentioned this on the show before that among the speakers at the event is Microsoft technical fellow Alex kitman who is involved in hollow lens. So this video doesn't make me think that that won't happen. But I don't know Roger. Could you tell anything from this, you know, growing cords and ice cubes the turn into things that might look like processors, it could pave the way for some sort of part of it is I'm looking at where they're going to introduce it, which is mobile world congress. So there has to be some mobile smartphone. One would think I mean, I Guess guess it it doesn't doesn't have. have more sense. If it was. But it makes sense that if it was some sort of, you know, it could be it could be a hollow lens that you know, that you slap. You know that connects your smartphone or Ireland hollow land or a hollow leads that is a smartphone. An awesome would that be or like the activists go, right? It's just a self contained unit. And the melting could be like, hey, we're melting away your your previous inhibitions or connections wires in this thing for like for something that should be mobile. They're showing a lot of wires in this video. I know that's partially get way too close. But. I think the upshot is this video doesn't tell you know. It's it's basically telling you that Microsoft has a press announcement they're going to do but will congress probably tune in. We ought know that so really doesn't add anything the governor sation, but I would be I would be very excited to see hollow lens to become something different than hollow lens and become not just a developer kit. But something that everybody could get their hands on. So very curious to see apple announced. Here we go that health records on iphone will soon. Let veterans receive care through the US veterans health administration to view medical records in the app. So if you're a veteran, and you're getting your care through the VHA, you'll be able to use an apple app to seal your medical records,.
"alex kitman" Discussed on Windows Weekly
"And you could kind of you this in the same light. I mean, if they're essentially giving up on croutons as a standalone assistant for consumers, especially well, Cortana, Kate the capabilities that you know, she was putting out to the world have to be put out to the world in the place where people are in the place as an and those places are again, Google and apple are dive, sorry, actually, Google and Amazon because. Systems in this case. It's it's it's really the same kind of brutal math. I mean, you just you have to go where the customers are. Okay. And I I had another insight from that transcript, I actually paid the ten dollars to subscribe to. To get it. Because that was the only to get it. So he also got asked something where he started talking about first line workers, you know, for me. That's like a big obsession of mine. I'm like this is where they're going. This is their next big untapped market that and they're kind of gearing everything that way, and you know, you know, Alex kitman has has continually said, you know, mobile phones aren't the Bill and all and he was kind of hinting like hololens was now I know what they're thinking on that front, and it's kinda crazy. So Sutton Adela said in response to another question, we've we've seen from some of the first line worker installations we've done at these big companies that some companies are giving them a hololens instead of a phone. I was like what? Yeah. I mean, those have to be pretty specialized use cases. So he said. I'm looking for his exact, quote is because of the productivity gains for service workers that it makes a lot of economic sense where they did not even give them a phone, but they're happy to give them a hololens. So this must be why they they keep thinking homelands is going to be what leapfrogs them into the thing that succeeds phones, there's no way that a whole ends anything succeed the phone. But now, I think we talked about this last week. There's obviously some really good vertical markets for hall ends. And it's been successful in those places. Right. And you know, when you say, the this term frontline is a front line of I I. Whereas Lynn workers. I always think of like the guy with the clipboard working at like, a clothing store or something. But of course, it's it's much more diverse than that. Right. It's the guy out on the telephone line is the guy in the factory floor. It's you know, whatever there's a bunch of these things..
"alex kitman" Discussed on Windows Weekly
"You know, you get all the benefits of farm with none of the detriments. And I we know attack. We learned this at might have been CS last year. It was the year before that they cancelled the original second Holland's because it wasn't enough of an advance. And so this is technically the third one. But it's the second one they're going to release, and I assume that they will maybe fixes the wrong word, but improve the field of you as well. Which We'll is see why you're. why you're going, isn't it? You wanna make sure it's not a mail slot. I have I'm a closet hall ends fan. I I kind of don't appreciate the grief. I've gotten over this. No. I don't. Closet. Paul into the light it. It will get better. Some of the best Microsoft demos. I've ever done. We're holland's. Right. I mean as as. It as inappropriate as product is as a mass market device, which it isn't. It was never meant to be some of the demos are astonishingly. Good. Right. You know, the thing where you you fixing the electrical outlet, and the guy's helping you via the video thing floating next to it. It's it's genius. I mean, you know, the video game with the creatures are coming out of the wall, which is something no one should never do with Holland's. But it's fun. You know, it's it's it's demo about a year ago of a halloween's competitor called meta was really cool looking and they had things coming out of the walls, and it was fun. It just went belly up. Yeah. Go on forever. I remember when we did the live demo of Hollandse windows. An ambulance flying around the it was a real time view of the planes landing and taking off from sheep. All and. Yeah. And you could kind of you know, it seem in the room. I mean, there wasn't much practically it was a demo. Right. So it's not like grab a plan and do stuff to it. But, but you could I mean, that's the the point of it is this is a different way to visualize data. And it's really interesting in that case, I think to see with that looks like around you in a very immersive way. It's cool. I think it's very interesting. Julia white is part of this discussion because somebody's somebody has to be the person who's like guys, you know, what this is all about though, this is about intelligent cloud. Intelligent edge business devices right at like bring it back to reality. And not just talk. I mean, they're going to definitely talk pie in the sky futures. Because Alex kitman is they are. But it's also. Remind people like his a real device here for real customers. And you know. No, I think what's I think the big difference between now and four years ago is they have all the real world experience to know what worked and what didn't work, and they can say, look here's a product that is going to meet real needs. And I think that's great because Holland's has always had like an almost Microsoft researchy, kind of you know, fire out there kind of vibe, and the fact that they've it's found some kind of a home in a market is great. And I you know, and now they can approve it. That's good. It's exciting. I'd like to see them do well with it. There's it must competitor. Sure. You want to take a little tiny time out. And then we got to talk about windows ten. We haven't done that yet hoof. Hoof? And maybe we'll throw in some XBox. I don't know. Now, maybe they're experts Now, now. there is no. A reference to it. Xboxes is Jill. Our show today brought to you by what's he it's hot hot cloud storage to be exact with Saab as data storage. That's eighty percent cheaper and six times the speed of the industry leader AWS. It's really good. And I have to say I have a little bit of an insight into the beginnings of whistle because it was started by two good friends of mine, David friend, who was the founder of carbonite. But before that, the he been the Arp synthesizer. He's really wonderful serial, entrepreneurs smart guy, his guy tech guy. Jeff flowers four carbonite..
"alex kitman" Discussed on Windows Weekly
"That said our S which has Redstone shell devices foldable 's so that immediately set off like people going crazy going, okay? This is Andromeda. They're going to do in drama the drama was Microsoft's supposed- phone sized dual screen machine that I reported last year was cancelled or at least put on indefinite hold. So I will tell you. I am pretty sure drama is still not coming to market. I know there are some people who have heard that it is. But I still hear it is not. And the reason it is not is Microsoft doesn't wanna make a phone if Microsoft wanted to make a phone they wouldn't be telling people to go by IOS and Android phones for. Yep. So what I do think this foldable thing. References is Microsoft is going to do some work on windows to make it work on foldable PC's and devices their OEM's of Microsoft who have already announced they have these coming, right? And some of them are dual screens some of them are other kinds of foldable devices. So I think they have to do the work on windows to support these OEM devices the question everybody has is will it also support anything from Microsoft that the surface team is building? I think it could support the Cinco named centaurus that we've talked about before. Which in a we say, it's a successor to the drama. What it really is is a really small too will screen. Laptop. That's what's some tauruses. I so I think Microsoft is still toying with the idea of brain this out. I don't know if they'll bring it out this year. I don't even know if it will eventually make it to market, but I think there's a chance, and if the if it does it'll obviously take advantage of the work that it's doing with dual screen slash foldable windows. So that's what's going on. Like, not like, I see so many people going. It's Andromeda I knew it. And that's what they're going to announce it mobile world congress. I'm like guys. No. People on Twitter today saying oh, here comes Andromeda at mobile congress. Anything like this that they come out of the woodwork? Yeah. I I heard that the well the world congress thing Microsoft is doing his Holland me. Tim. Brain. So today, we get invitations to mobile world, congress and the speakers from Microsoft who were speaking. There are Alex kitman who's the father of hololens? Julia white who's the corporate vice president of Ayrshire and such an Adila. Okay. So what is this thing? It's got to be the hololens, right? Yep. Yep. Has nothing to do with service. Now, he does not. So I'm actually I'm actually going to go to this event is I I. Malik cabs and everything does. Did you follow love Alex many percents day yet? Yep. Yeah. All of his albums. It was let's say if it was if it was four years ago this month we were up in red bend, and they announced Holland's if I'm not mistaken, and I eighty I'm getting my years. Yeah. Because windows ten shipped in July two thousand fifteen so that event would have been roughly six or seven months before that happened. That's where they doused hall ends..