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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

01:52 min | 2 months ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Entitled to take a cut. Yep there's an app for just about anything only on the iphone. Alex thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me. That was alex hearn. The guardians uk technology editor. He's been writing about this story. Do look up his pieces at the guardian dot com and look out for his articles covering the rest of the court case. The first apple executive took the stand on monday phil schiller. And we're expecting the chief executive. Tim cook any day now in the episode. Alex mentioned of ongoing investigations into apple last month. European commission charged the company with breaking e competition rules over the way it ran the app store specifically around the music industry apple said it was disappointing that the european commission was advancing. What it called baseless complaints from a handful of companies who simply want a free ride the. Us senate is also holding ongoing anti-trust hearings not just into apple. But into several major tech companies in both cases apple strenuously denies that it runs a monopoly at a senate hearing last month. One of its senior executives stressed both the security. The app store has brought to consumers and the great value it represented for developers describing the thirty percent commission for digital goods as a competitive right. That is for today. My thanks to alex and to the eight year old who let me briefly download fortnight onto then intendo switch. it has since been deleted. This episode was produced by. Sammy can't sound. Design was by ian chambers. The executive producers are film may not an ought she bland. We'll be back tomorrow..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

01:51 min | 1 year ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Would you have made of an applied this that needed to be downloaded by sixty percent of the population back? Then I'd have laughed at that schist scale without the resources of a facebook or Google and with the fundamental une coolness of government up. I couldn't see how the government would ever be able to get that level of install. What about now. Would you download it? Now everything's changed. Yeah I would absolutely download it. I am hey a privacy fundamentalist self self described and undescribed by others. I am the sort of person who turns off every piece of extra tracking Google tries to do from me and I would instill that because corona farces really awful. I want to get out of lockdown. I think mass voluntary participation in this is going to be crucial to moving towards a more open society. Alex thank you very much. Thank you for having me that was UK technology editor. Alex hearn do gave to the Guardian Dot Com to read his reporting on this. You can also have a look at the reporting from our investigations. Team led by Paul Lewis and this week. Extensive coverage of the government's steps towards lifting the lockdown including from our Westminster team and across the country do have read. That's it for today. My thanks to Dr Tom. More onto Alex hearn. This episode was produced by Chika as sound design was by Axel Cocoon. The executive producers are Phil Maynard. Nicole Jackson we'll be back tomorrow..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

02:48 min | 1 year ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Alex have been under lockdown for ball away. And as you say we've already seen this huge shift in the way people are behaving online. We've talked about some big innovations in the way we were study and also the data. The government collects on us all enabled by technology after corona virus. What of these changes do you think will remain the big one is the proportion of Brits who work remotely is never going back to normal if you are someone who struggles to pay for childcare in your normal life and if you're someone who's found that you can actually handle working in the same house as your children then it's going to be really hard for your employer to force you back into the office when they've seen you doing a perfectly good job for weeks or months during Corona virus. I hope that we're going to see a new blossoming of love. Long distance friendships the number of people. At least in my life who I saw once or twice a year and I made it to their city who I am now seeing every week. And it's great is making me question why it took me so long to do that before. What about House party? Do you think we're going to be ditching trips to the pub. You know I can't wait to get back to the pub. Actually I can't imagine that virtual happy hours will really stick around. They are fine but they feel a bit forced. I think again it's like the blitz. Right there are some huge changes in British society. That happened in World War. Two but at the same time we we weren't eating sausages made our sawdust forever and what about the u? Alex what's changed for you that you can keep the thing I'll keep up is is my Webcam done. Just the dry concessions it's really nice to hang out with nerds from around the world and just Gal Akiko Alex thank you very much. Thank you for having me remotely. That was Alex hearn. Who is writing all about this? Do keep up on the website. There were also really interesting stories at the Guardian Dot Com around the role of police in enforcing the lockdown plans to rescue Britain stranded abroad questions around testing and healthcare resources and really long read on the race to develop a vaccine. That's it for today. My thanks to Alex heard this episode was produced by Hanna. More sound design was by Ian Chambers. The executive producers are Phil Maynard Nicole Jackson. I hope you are keeping while sending love from all of us at today InFocus. We'll be back tomorrow..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

06:41 min | 1 year ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Alex hearn. UK technology editor for The Guardian. This is where I start dot with my granny quest dental me about Dick talk so tick tock is the merger of a a Chinese companies are up. Could take talk in the West uncle dough yen in China which translates vaguely into sort of buzzing noise And all about two pm just like talk And a Western. Onomatopoeia Onomatopoeia. Tick Tock Tick Buzz. Buzz Vos but it's a merger between the Chinese is up and an American uncle musically musically go very large in around twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen letting largely teen uses film film selves Lip synching to music. And then take her up and take talk is one made by. Why is Chinese companies will bite dance which is generally described as the world's largest stop? It's a very young company with evaluation. Somewhere in the order of seventy five billion dollars by dogs made talk in the west to try and export some success they'd had within China to the rest of the world. How big is big? How does it compare to say I of a social media sites? It's probably the biggest one that's not owned by facebook. FACEBOOK has more uses than anyone. INSTAGRAM is next but is also facebook and then this tick tock the company claims or has had attributed to it five hundred million active users. I'm getting to be honest. I'm not a regular take talkies as it only say we'll have downloaded it going to be able to lola lip sync famous oils. You will if you want to show me. Tell me just okay there. We go totally really want to start thinking. I'm really bad. The risk is lost so right. This is no good radio. It is both fascinating APP. And something that I feel is actually bit creepy to be on your over about twenty five the US bases so oh young and it's so insular amongst US base. It's teens talking to teens. PSA guys if he didn't know already again. Yeah not so if you're ready to date me now let's talk business. It says you have to be over twelve to us and you're talking about teens is that its this audience or do we know whether young children using it as well. Younger children are allowed to use it these days. They have to use a restricted count. The hasn't always been the case and take talks had some heat for it and get followers in the same way as you do one of those you do get followers but there are far less important on talk or another platforms because take talk uses a similar sort of Algorithm mcphee to that that you find on facebook or instagram where it will artificially promote videos that are doing very well it will hide visited it. Things are boring but this fetus is turned up to eleven. It's far far more aggressive. At showing you stuff that things will go viral and former aggressive hiding stuff that it thinks is a bit crap if I make a video and it's really boring. Take talk show people. Most videos made by most people will not be seen by very many people title including their followers. Take Talk. We'll show it to ten or so people and then if none of them watch it all the way through it will just stop sharing social media expert. Ter- It is it. It is sneaking heavy like a Chevy little coupons one of the things that take influences complain about in fact is that the algorithm rhythm is completely inscrutable. There's there's no way to tell when you post something whether it's going to do well or not. But the flip side of that is as a viewer. You don't need to do any work. You don't need to track down the good accounts you don't need to find your friends on it. You just open it up on the very first thing on it is the four you feed which is completely the algorithms but I would like Sylvia is like that because it just shows you grivas unlike if you scroll down the field you'll find that roughly what you have is about a third incredible short-form web comedy that absolutely inscrutable in jokes are only two other teens. I just don't get singly. Three weeks and a third kind of teen thirst trump's just like instagram influences. They're pretty women who will famous sort of impact for being pretty women. It's just take their fifty hundred sixteen and if you're in adult that's con. I mean if your child is still a bit of an old thing that Manuel House and take talks. Come under a lot of criticism from organizations like SPEC- for failing failing to really protect those Andre. Jesus get get same myself. They ploughed money into it to a certain extent. You can buy users right. You can't buy sustainable long lasting use. Yes but if you run enough ads you get curiosity clicks. And that's where a lot of those users came from. Some of that is sort of shady advertising a piece in the new gawker recently quoted. One tick employees saying that they were really uncomfortable with the adverts that Tick Tock Ryan on instagram which were showing basically just incredibly basic basic shocking content. Anything to get uses to click through not bait plagued by exactly and is it making money. The question is a private company so we have no right to know it's making revenue. It's certainly got income but it is frankly unbelievable that it's revenue could exceed. Its costs at this point by dancers in it for the long game. They don't need to turn a profit for years down the line and they're clearly trying to lay the groundwork and if it's all about people going viral and they have to be really good to go viral. So does that mean we're getting massive stars out of it like we have done with the most famous start. 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"alex hearn" Discussed on Chips with Everything

Chips with Everything

09:10 min | 1 year ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Chips with Everything

"Fight between cities and big tech appears to be favoring the city's what can companies like AIRBNB and Uber Do to try and make peace. London sets quite a good precedent. If London can check out uber and homegrown cab. Companies can continue to work and London's transport doesn't slow to a crawl and London's male wins reelection after making that decision that suggests to other municipalities. The actually Uber but when it comes in and Thursdays way around can be fought and can be beaten and that I think is well known as Silicon Valley will be afraid of Alex hearn the. UK's tech editor has been following. What's happening with both Uber and abby? And they're all important structural differences between Abby Nuba. The Big One being that for all the Uber argues that it's drives a self employed small businesses in that it merely matches passenger customers with Dr Customers. Everyone knows that drivers work for Uber. Sorry like that. That is still illegally contentious facts but as a matter of normal human language. That's how we think of it. That's how everyone behaves drivers and writers alike with air. Bb That's quite clearly not the case. No one thinks of an AIRBNB host as being an airbnb be employees or working. IBM be no one. Thinks of the house. You stay when you stay with Airbnb as being Abbey's house and that actually does limit the abilities of cities to act on these things one of the problems that Uber's faces the the duck test if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It's a duck. Looks like a cab company and its drive drive cabs. Then it's probably a cab company EBI. Just doesn't look like a hotel company and that does limit the ability not of municipalities. To go you need hotel license. It limits the ability Munis parties turned to AIRBNB and go. Your hosts are breaking laws on using using the houses for short-term letting over more than ninety days of the year and we're going to punish you because airbnb much more than Uber is a platform it does does feel stronger to hold airbnb liable for the acts of its hosts than it does do reliable the activists drivers and we beginning to see a pattern turn of cities trying to take on big Tech Yup. Absolutely partly. That's because we've had the tech clash that the backlash against big tech and it's no no longer seen as a a defacto vote-loser if you do take on big tech certainly four or five years ago when you city I started going heavy against Uber that was really unpopular with the first time ever really mobilized its own user base to campaign against a measure that was intended to clamp down on it and it really worked. New York City's the authorities Ron's scared the mail in campaign that came from his users these days. I don't think that works quite as well. I don't think it seen as automatically controversial official to take on a large tech company. Do you think there are ways that cities would look more kindly on these companies. Like maybe if they were paying more taxes your money moneymatters matters taxes matter. There are examples of cities turning to big tech favorably. The most notorious of which is is Toronto's sidewalks walks labs which is a alphabet subsidiary that is rebuilding a small part of the country. Has I think we've talked on this podcast. You're you've taught this podcast costs before that shows. That tech can come in and make deals with cities. I think the problem is and it goes back to the nature of airbnb Nuba Yuba they have been called in the past regulatory arbitrage. One way of looking at what we do is as a company is. Uber allows an individual driver to do something that would be illegal if that driver did it on their own which is drive to the curb. Pick up a passenger and drop them off somewhere without a taxi license. What Uber does Zuber? Basically you you know. This is a description of what the value the company provides as Uber basically goes all of you. Drivers do this under our aegis. We will fight the government for you. The the government cannot jail us and we have more lawyers. You go to jail. We'll take a portion of your salary and that's great. That's an adversarial approach. There's no two ways about it. There there was already a way of running minicabs London before rubel though her already ways of running cabs most cities where we've been operates Yuba didn't actually have much to offer. Cities it's play was exclusively the rules and regulations that you're happy with. We can make money by breaking them in very carefully. Calibrated way the.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on SGGQA Podcast – SomeGadgetGuy

SGGQA Podcast – SomeGadgetGuy

03:11 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on SGGQA Podcast – SomeGadgetGuy

"Engine with apple's the web browser so the actual core of i._o._s. Might be a pretty decently little contained bucket but as soon as you plug facebook and you view siri and you've got other services on your phone you're just as leaky as any other <hes> iphone i mean as any other smartphone android. Whatever so we <hes> we recently talked about how alexa speakers google home speakers were her. We it was found that humans were listening to the recordings that people were were. You were submitting were were. They weren't really submitting you. You ask your smart speaker question. It takes a sample of your voice and then just independent contractors were getting to listen to this audio to to make sort of assessments on what was happening in the audio and how to better train their <hes> smart speaker algorithms well. Wouldn't you know it apple was who is doing the same thing so if you've used siri there's a chance not a very high chance but there is a chance that your recordings were sent off not to apple bowl but to a third party independent contractor and this is coming by way of the guardian <hes> <hes> who is alex hearn earn wrote this up over at the guardian apple apologizes for allowing workers to listen to siri recordings the company made the the announcement after it completed a review of the grading program which had been triggered by guardian report revealing its existence according to multiple former graders accidental antle activation were regularly sent for review having recorded confidential information illegal acts and even serey users having sacks. Thanks a quote from the apple website as a result of our review. We realize we have not been fully living up to our high ideals and for that we apologize as we previously previously announced. We halted the siri grading program. We plan to resume later. This fall when software updates are released do who are users so the changes they're making it will no longer keep homeland there. Go it will no longer keep audio recordings of syria users by default default though will retain automatically generated transcripts of the requests so it won't give the audio but they'll still know what you said. Users will will be able to opt in to sharing their recordings with apple. We hope that many people will choose to help syria get better. The company said that's pretty good. That's a good <hes> sort of a apology setup. Anytime there is some sort sort of humans will get involved in the data what lives on your device. That should be an opt in situation not an opt out. We're autumn gonna sign you up for our smart assistant grading program and if you don't wanna participate just dig through ten menus on your phone and then.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

01:48 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"It was a really powerful moment and i heard this morning from one of the women who had chanted that in the crowd and she should that she was incredibly frustrated by the governor's pro gun positions and she wanted to see ohio politicians. Take action to pass gun control. It's a pretty frightening and overwhelming meantime in the united states particularly for any of the many groups of people who have been targeted by white nationalist terrorism african americans muslims jews now hispanic americans leftist protesters and politicians but it's important to remember that there is progress happening on preventing violence in america is just it's not happening in washington but at the state level gun control laws are advancing and some cities have seen big decrease in violence by focusing on the people at highest risk at the lowest level. It's hard to remember any of that right now. Of course that's one of the points of terrorism it makes you exhausted and it makes you afraid and title focus on anything else uh that was lois beckett my thanks to her and alex hearn. That's it for today. I hope you're enjoying today in focus. This episode was produced by david waters. Elizabeth catherine and gary marshall will sound design was by akzo kukuchi be executive producers affil- may not andy cole jackson. We'll be back tomorrow <music>..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

05:34 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Today we've talked about facebook and about amazon now. It's time to have a look at google and the guardians lois beckett after another to mass shootings in the u._s. Diggle what had for lunch lunch. They only know where you went for lunch. How long you stayed probably you went with alex. Hearn is the guardians u._k. Technology editor. Maybe depending on how you set it up. If you emailed about it google would know you know why you went what you talked about over there. Jim we talked about well as in you know if you emailed someone saying a lunch to talk about today focused focus than the fact that you talked about in focus of course if one of you had an android phone and the <hes> google assistant was accidentally triggered than it will have also recorded a short portion of your compensation and said not to google services well and they don't know what you ate but probably quite good idea from you know takeout receipts email to your g mala coun- and all of the previous restaurants you search from google maps love an idea of what you like to eat so they could quite possibly combine that with knowledge knowledge of where you went to take stab awarded unbelievable and what they do anything without data not really they don't care about most of it but they still have it and what they care about could change given how much information google holds about me you and and all of us what drives it really matters. The company stated mission is to organize the world's information to make it universally accessible and useful and it appears to be achieving its goal but in doing so has ushered in a new age of mass surveillance from the guardian. I'm initiative today in focus all we right to trust google with so much of our data google. It is the world's most popular search engine allowing us all to find things very quickly and very easily. How much does google no value you. No one knows as much about its customers as google does google through this foam no that i have moved here and moved over to the left. It's either yes or no not by default. It is google really good or is it evil. I remember when i was eighteen eighteen university. I've been using this thing or yahoo and then suddenly someone sad. Have you tried this new search engine then google try date like everyone else and it was like oh my god. This is so good. Just i don't know why it was like give me a sense of live was happened with google since that point since that point so google search is now the number one search engine in almost every country in the world it it owns and runs directly a web browser. Which is the number one web browser in almost every country in the world it owns and runs the world's largest video sharing site youtube owns and runs the world's largest webmail service g mail it owns and runs the world's largest cloud productivity suites tweets google docs with google sheets who went out product tick activity so there's not really an easy like how you say the pub a web replacement for microsoft office but dot rather downplays it. It's pretty used by more people than office because it's free and he's online and you don't need to install any software for it maps so they'll they'll do maps for for everywhere where i think they also now categorized as local search they also of course the big one i missed is android they own and run the world's largest mobile operating system and a whole bunch of services that go with that they run the android app store and then you've got.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Vector Podcast

Vector Podcast

01:35 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Vector Podcast

"Not everyone is aware of the fact that everything you say you're Google smart speaker and your Google assistant is being recorded and stored but that is clearly stated in Google terms and conditions and what people are certainly not aware of simply because Google doesn't mention it in its terms and conditions is that Google employees can listen to excerpts from those recordings but they do offer this as well most recordings made via Google home smart speaker are very clear recordings made with Google assistant the smartphone APP our telephone quality but the sound is not distorted in any way then just this weekend weekend Alex hearn writing for The Guardian Apple Contractors regularly here confidential details on Siri recordings although apple does not explicitly disclose it in its consumer facing privacy documentation a small portion of civil recordings are passed on to contractors working for the company around the world. The are tasked with grading the responses on a variety of factors including whether the activation of the voice assistant was deliberate or accidental whether the query was something Siri could be expected to help with and whether series response was appropriate also apple differs from those companies in some ways for one Amazon and Google allow users to opt out of some uses of their recordings apple offers no similar choice short of disabling labeling Siri entirely although that part has been disputed there is an icon analytics toggle in the privacy settings that says it includes Siri analytics but none of these things are crystal clear and that's largely the problem. Here's.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:20 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"The Silicon Valley. Internet giants, Facebook, Google and at cetera. They are absolutely controlling an industry right now, which has subverted the public interest in certain ways an and at the same time also subjugates consumers, this is the idea that as the industry rises, the the consumer's interests are subverted by the commercial interests pursued by the industry, and what my co author. Ben, Scott, Nihar view is ver very much in line with what our caller politics just said what we argue is that we need to think anew about this whole situation. Think about developing a digital social contract the idea that we reconsider and reevaluate the distribution of power between the consumer the government and the industry particular. Really Silicon Valley right now, it's very weighted toward Silicon Valley, and we need to redistribute that that weight through a combination of regulatory policies addressing transparency privacy and competition in the market because those are the three areas that would respond to the business model that sits behind Facebook and Google and okay. So for example, we the you would that mean regulation that would essentially require for example, Facebook to be transparent about a particular news feed where it comes from who's behind it to basically give you the option or a more robust option to opt out of sharing your data, or at least to be aware of it. I mean are those the kinds of things we're talking about absolutely privacy privacy is really it's it's not necessarily about telling a company or set of companies what data they can or cannot collect. It's it's really about the individual. It's about giving the individual. Absolute autonomy and control over their information transparency is absolutely about giving the individual a view a perspective into the ways that they're their information is is being collected. And utilized. What is the idea that it would be incumbent on the company essentially to sort of come to me and say, Anthony, you're on Facebook? And we're really interested in in in using your data because we want to sell advertising and give it to a whole bunch of people that you don't know anything about is that okay with you. I mean that sort of what is that the as opposed to they're taking my data? And if I'm attentive enough and smart enough, I'm going to be aware of that. And I'll try to take steps to block it. Yeah. I mean there there is no doubt that transparency is not going to cure everything. That's that's why we also call for privacy and competition as part of this public education and more incisive journalism are also aspects that we need to consider. But just. To give give one example of where transparency is lacking in this industry. If we compare the internet and Facebook advertising Google advertising or Twitter advertising to broadcast advertising in the political context right now, if Bernie Sanders puts a political add up on television, he's compelled to say at the end of it and this ad was sponsored or I endorse. This ad is as Bernie Sanders, and and that is a federal requirement. Right. He's required to do that by law. And when you're watching broadcast television, you know, that that ad is being seen by a certain number of people, and you know, that it's publicly out there. And it's going to be available later on you don't know any of that in digital advertising in the digital world. If you see an out on Facebook, you cannot track it you, you know, very little about where it came from. In other words, you don't know the providence. You don't know how much was paid for it. You don't know who else may have seen it defined. I'm gonna come back to you. But I want to go to Alex Hearn one more time. Because we have to let him go, Alex. I is there serious talk in Europe around these issues of of regulation. The kind of thing that define Goshi is referring to. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, some of it as well beyond talks. I for instance, in in Europe, the general data protection regulation GDP all came into effect later this year..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:31 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"How about the information you find on your news feed? Is it time for regulation as defined gauche was just talking about? We're going to talk about that. After the break. I'm Anthony Brooks, this is on point. This is on point. I'm Anthony Brooks. We're talking about Facebook, the promise and challenge of this huge social media platform, and how to fix it. And how to regulate it? Here's CEO Mark Zuckerberg who pushed back on the media coverage of Facebook in an interview with C N N's Laurie Segal last Tuesday. There were always going to be issues. If you're serving a community of of more than two billion people there's going to be someone who is posting something that is that is problematic that gets through the systems that we have in place. No matter how advanced the systems are. And I think by and large the L a lot of the criticism around the biggest issues has been fair. But I do think that if we're going to be real there is this bigger picture as well. Which is that we have a different worldview than than some of the folks who who are covering this CEO Facebook CEO, Mark Zuckerberg there you can join the conversation has Facebook been a force for good in your. Munity? Are you concerned about data breaches a threat to privacy? Do you think Facebook and companies like it need federal regulation? What might they look like, I'm speaking with Alex Hearn technology reporter at the guardian and to Pyan gauche former privacy and public policy advisor at Facebook into pine. I'd love to come back to you. Because we were beginning to talk about the need for regulation. I know this is a big question, and we'll get into a deeply in the rest of the hour. But how do we begin to think about that? What what might that regulation? Look like, well, let's let's start with what we just heard Mark Zuckerberg say, which is that the platform is so big it has two billion over two billion users. And that there is always something that is going to happen. And I I'd like to challenge that and just say that. Yes, this is a huge platform. But think about what he's saying what he's saying here is that you cannot build as Facebook, you cannot build algorithms or artificial intelligence that can effectively. Suppress hate speech or effectively suppress disinformation operations because there's so much of it. Similarly, you cannot protect yourself against security threats or privacy breaches, I would challenge that. Because if you look at the way that the biggest internet companies in Silicon Valley spend their money, it is it is to develop the algorithms and collect the data that empower their system and have have taken over the consumer internet. If we were to ask them to just divert five percent of the investment that they put in that toward this problem that could solve the public the the problems in the public that we're facing today. We would resolve this in the fact that the industry does not voluntarily do that today suggests that it never will until and unless the public sentiment is big enough to encourage it or push it to do that. And where we have to start is by. Looking at that business model and tackling privacy transparency and competition in the market. So these are three really important principles that I've that you've talked about, and I and I want to get to those. But let me go back to Alex Hearn in London. And Alex ask you in terms of the conversation around regulation. What are they saying in Europe where the did that come up yesterday not in any great detail, which I think is fairly common for conversations around regulating Facebook. In fact, the the attendee who who went into the most ITO was one of the Canadian representatives who suggested that Facebook should be regulated as a public utility will broken up in general the discussion in Europe around how to regulate Facebook has been looking at how to force Facebook's entitled processes to be accountable to the white democratic systems. So that would involve for instance, not requiring Facebook to take down, particular, particular, postal particular content. Not sort of putting police in Facebook's offices, but just mandating the Facebooks complaints and appeals process, actually, works and holding it liable when that doesn't it..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:35 min | 2 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Where Damian Collins the chair of the UK parliamentary committee issued a summons sent the sergeant Thomas who is the state official responsible for enforcing parliamentary rules sent to this man's hotel room and escorted him to parliament where the committee then seized his laptop and obtained this communication. The DC committee hasn't. Released the full details of communication, so will we know really is what they quoted in in this committee where they accused Facebook among other things of having discovered but never reported on a Russian IP address which connected to the site and downloaded some three billion records. So what does Facebook saying about this? Or are they saying anything they well, they're saying quite a lot through the percentage of Richard island is policy chief who who sought in front of the committee and gamely answered their questions for for a good few hours. The the problem Allan has. Of course, is that he is a a mid ranking executive at Facebook. He reports to well now to Nick Clegg who ironically actually was his former bosses well that both liberal Democrat politicians in the UK. But Nick Clegg is now Facebook's incoming communications chief Clegg, then reports to Mexico Buchan shirl sandbox, this is two steps removed from really the room where happen. And yet he was that trying to answer that questions. So I play a little more tape from yesterday. This is Canadian MP Charlie Angus who suggested introducing antitrust regulation to contain essentially Facebook at the hearing in London yesterday. So here's how Facebook vice president for policy solutions, Richard Alan responded to that suggestion unless you'll get the internet. I am no confidence the people the people we serve use of would be better off in the world where Facebook is not able however imperfectly to officer. This is what we spend fifteen years learning how to do it. So that was Facebook vice president Richard Alan. I'm Alex Beran were the folks the the delegates here. The the parliamentarians were questioning Allen more or less unified in their concerns about Facebook. Or did they bring separate agendas? I think they were it was actually one of the most interesting things watching the whole affair well off. Often these committees, particularly, you know, something as multinational as this can be quite full of grandstanding on the part of representatives. Here. I I did get the sense of the real unity of purpose, a unity anger, really anger that Mark Zuckerberg had stood them up. In the words of the Canadian representatives have blown them off anger that Facebook had still, you know, a year on from the Cambridge scandal. Breaking two years on from the US jemele election, still not to there is fully onset all of the questions that were raised by those issues, and certainly not fully fixed. The problem. Facebook runs a war room for the US midterms and the Brazilian elections, which then it was reported this week despondent after I it said that, you know, essentially, it's work that was done. Well, that that feels like a hostage to fortune for the next major election when you can pretty you can be pretty certain that that will be yet more issues regarding that intersection between Facebook. Democracy and the media big questions. Alex earn standby one introduce a another guest who's with me in the studio. But I I want to say we did reach out to Facebook and request that a senior Facebook official, including Sheryl Sandberg. Join this show, they declined to join the show we didn't hear back from them. But I'd like to introduce define Ghoshe's, a former privacy and public policy advisor at Facebook. He served there from two thousand fifteen to two thousand seventeen he's technology policy that he was a technology policy advisor at the White House during the Obama administration. He's and he's now a fellow at the Harvard. Kennedy School Shorenstein center defying goes good to have you. Thanks for coming. In course. Thanks for having me. I'd love to just get your quick reaction about what you've heard from Alex Hearn and the goings on in the goings on in London yesterday. Well, I think Alex Alex is accurate reporting on on the events of of this week are really just an illustration of the fact that this is an. Industry that is that that absolutely needs to change the business model that that operates silently underneath companies like Facebook as well as other social media companies like YouTube, and Twitter, and Snapchat is very clear..

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:46 min | 3 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Okay so so the follow gdp sorry go it no no go ahead you finish that thought and then and then i want to bring in another guest to respond to this gpo following gdp it's been made much more explicit it's it introduces a right for individuals to have personal data raised they can make a request they have to get a response within one month but gdp is also very explicit that the right is not absolute it only applies in certain situations if the personal data is no longer necessary for the purpose it was gathered or i've specifically has stronger implications for data gathered around children right they're all they're all checks and balances built into this okay before stay all different i think from checks and balances that the us would central four and so on that point since you did mention that this has been sort of a judicata in your in european courts a couple of times i just wanna play quick a bit of tape here because in two thousand fourteen there was his landmark case in the european court of justice over the right to be forgotten alex as you mentioned giving people the right test google to remove unwanted links from search results and just after that ruling came out craig newman who's a lawyer explained explained it's to cnn shortly after the the ruling was handed down you have a right to call google and say i want to take that down but that information is already lawfully on the internet so it's a bit like saying it's okay to have this book in your library but you're not allowed to use google is a card catalogue the find it and as alex hearn was just telling us the new european union regulations go even further giving people the right not just to be forgotten but to ask companies to delete their day.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:19 min | 3 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Ever listen to the news and wonder is there anything good happening out there i'm mindy thomas from npr's how in the world and each week i take you and your kids on wild adventures to explore the most wow worthy news stories on the planet find wow the world an apple podcasts this is on point meghna trucker bharti we're talking about the european union's new sweeping digital privacy laws set to be enforced beginning next month and what affect that might have on digital privacy worldwide you can join us do you think the united states needs to have stronger digital privacy laws here's something with real teeth in it like the european union has or are you slightly concerned that maybe the e eu is going too far with things like it's right to be forgotten and could that trample on american notions of free speech online i'm joined today by tom wheeler he was former chairman of the fcc from two thousand thirteen to two thousand seventeen he's now a fellow at the harvard kennedy school of government and by alex hearn tech reporter for the guardian uk he's with us from london alex before the break there you were talking about the fact that even in the european union with this weeping change many people weren't paying attention to the coming changes until the cambridge analytica scandal broke exactly well you know it was all about the same time really that over the past it's only really been four or five months that anyone except the the extreme specialists have been paying attention on i think just as as the lobbying effort might have kicked into top gear just as the public was starting to become aware of gdp all the facebook scandal broke and completely changed the tenor of the conversation i don't think right now you would get much leeway if you try to argue that there is a serious institutional problem with the way data is handled across the world but that's in europe as much as anywhere else you know i am seeing here though since we're talking about facebook again it's it is the eight hundred to two billion pound gorilla in the room here that even though mark zuckerberg when testifying before congress said that he was going to they're going to unroll gdp are type regularly options controls i should say for facebook users around the world which they are doing simultaneously just.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:51 min | 3 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"He doesn't have jurisdiction but we've applied where we had jurisdiction and sixty seven days after the trump republican congress came in congress passed a law repealing it and went so far is to say that the fcc to pass a law that said the fcc could never again have those kind of privacy rules so we have a basic underpinning issue in the united states where there needs to be a willingness of our elected officials to step up and say no i represent the consumers who's information privacy is being violated and that hasn't been the orientation of the congress to this pam well we'll come back to that in a moment i'm you're listening to tom wheeler he was chairman of the fcc from two thousand thirteen to two thousand seventeen under president obama we're talking about the european union and the fact that next month it's about to begin enforcing foots possibly the most comprehensive twentyfirstcentury set of data privacy laws and you know the details around that and the implications for the rest of the world including data privacy here in the united states tom stand by for just a quick second because i want to bring into the conversation alex hearn he's a tech reporter for the guardian uk and he joins us from london because we want to get the view here from europe alex welcome to a point thanks so tom wheeler sort of got started in talking about the details of these new eu regulations around data privacy we just got a minute here before the break i want to quickly ask you has there been been any pushback in the european union itself from tech companies about the sweeping nature of these new rules.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Techmeme Ride Home

Techmeme Ride Home

02:19 min | 3 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Techmeme Ride Home

"Call and text history logging is part of an opt in feature for people using messenger or facebook light on android this helps you find and stay connected with the people you care about and provides you with a better experience across facebook people have to expressly agree to use this feature if at anytime they no longer wish to use this feature they can turn it off in settings facebook also said quote we never sell this data and this feature does not collect the content of your text messages or calls and quote this of course did little to stem outrage online the guardian's alex hearn tweeted ella mae oh facebook's only responses technically we got your permission though so you can't be mad the verges tom warren said facebook rank and file were actually reaching out to him directly quote a facebook software engineer just emailed me it's clear even facebook employees don't understand why people are surprised the comes any even needs to collect call history and sms data but software engineer calum jones tweeted quote you'd think facebook would have at least hashed the phone numbers from contacts but i'm lost why they need call duration and call logs and all of this came after apple's ceo tim cook made headlines speaking at the china development forum in beijing asked about his thoughts on what should happen in the aftermath of the cambridge analytic scandal cook said quote i think that this certain situation is so dire and has become so large that probably some wellcrafted regulation is necessary the ability of anyone to know what you've been browsing about for years who your contacts are who their contacts are things you like and dislike in every intimate detail of your life for my point of view it shouldn't exist and quote related to that josh elman tweeted and now the privacy conversation shifts from just facebook to android two i think apple is going to look pretty good here joey gas a delivered another nice summation of user outrage in his monday note once again he said that zuckerberg and facebook were.

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"alex hearn" Discussed on Pod Save America

Pod Save America

01:48 min | 3 years ago

"alex hearn" Discussed on Pod Save America

"Yes it's a complicated set of questions i think what these guys did was they had this academe ick build an app and then it's like when you download an app and it's like you want to log in with facebook and they got paid to do it so couple hundred thousand people took a quiz and then what the app did though was it went to your facebook friends and it scraped data base on all their likes and stuff so you gave them permission to get data from you but your friend shares held didn't so it sort of that was an unethical thing to do on top of that academics are not supposed to take that kind of data and give it to people for commercial purposes so that was a huge violation of the rules so they really did some shit that was not ethical in any way it's also really confusing that facebook knew about this in late twenty fifteen and seemingly did nothing about it like they didn't alert users they only took limited steps to recover and secure the data so it's a big deal they asked them to destroy the data yeah the way that while says they basically sent a former like check here if you've destroyed the data there's one there's a semantic argument as to whether or not it was technically a breach right because because that fake academic study violation of basement paul violation of facebook policy of them to then use that data for commercial purposes cambridge analytica then did with data i think that's a mandate argument doesn't really matter because what's clear there's something that zane up to feci talk to us about which is basically the way in which facebook is unsafe at any speed i don't care facebook considers it a breach or not it is simply not possible for people to have consented to this kind of use of data alex hearn the guardian said this which i thought was pretty funny way of thinking about it if here's what he said if i walk into a hospital and tell them the but inspector and they should give me pictures of all their patients butts and they do that's a data breach regardless of whether the hospital tain the but picks with patient consent.

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