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HR 1 : Lakers vs. Warriors

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HR 1 : Lakers vs. Warriors

"What a week. this is gonna be. Thank you very much chris browser. Yeah so i did hear from the guy with the tesla what you and he said you know what i'll just buffet out. No many nice guy there you go. I was pretty. Life will surprise you exactly. No i was very happy about that and you don't have been golfing a lot. We'll get that a little bit. But i'm telling you this is. This is quite a setup now for wednesday. You've got lakers you've got warriors. You've got a showdown. I am so excited about this matchup. Who didn't like the play. And i know the prime was down but man i love it. I love this plane tournament tastic. yeah. I can't wait. We get an extra game out of it. So there's so much to sort of take apart here and and look at first of all my first thought is. Wow they look really really good. Lebron and i think you. And i both said hey lebron. Ad take the weekend instead. They went for it. They played and they looked really really good. Like they haven't missed a step so they finished the season five and zero last year when they won the title. They finish one in four before they went into the playoffs. Matter of fact most of the time lebron's teams kinda use the end of the season to ramp down. They used it to ramp up. Yep and so. I think this is all gonna time. Well the thing that jumped out of me about this weekend was the unprecedented level of blatant tanking. That went on to avoid playing the lakers. The clippers houston and oklahoma city. Were the two worst teams in the league. And the clippers bent over backwards to get into the other side of the bracket and then denver last night with a chance to beat portland. Yup and take. The three seed. Didn't even compete knowing that if they did that. It opened the door for the lakers to get to the six sure. Nobody wants to play. La nobody wants to play. And by the way the clippers. Now there's one thing. I said all along actually before we get to that i. We both said this weekend. We didn't think lebron and a deep should play both said. Hey you know what we're gonna wind up the seven anyway. Why bother so friday. I was listening to a conversation with scott kaplan and those guys in the afternoon and they were talking about whether or not they should play. And i sent one word bubble. Wrap bubble wrap. That's two words. But i it's it's not one word. No all right close is clogged so yesterday last night. I'm watching the game. And i'm like my heart. Just say when he when lebron went down with his ankle the same ankle now says he's going to be fine but he did leave the game and i would imagine he's in twenty four hour treatment mode right now right. I don't think there's gonna be anything that keeps them from playing. Aren't you scared. Well this way. I look at it. You can't i mean this has been going on for as long as you. And i have had a show. You catholic sports injury. Klay thompson blew out his knee in a meaningless pickup game. Demarcus cousins has done that twice like gotten hurt in a game. That meant nothing. Everybody said well. Why was the burnt on the court. Why is it right on the court blah blah. I mean it can happen at any time. you can't. i mean to to bring this conversation full circle. You can't play these guys in bubble wrap right. You gotta let him play and you just hope that they don't get hurt and some point down once you knew that portland and i don't know if Frank vogel you're making michaels argument. Michael was making this argument during the game. He wanted to everybody out. I mean at the point where you knew you were going to be the seven no matter what and there was a point last night where portland just blew the doors off of denver There was a point where you could have said all right guys. We're the seven. Come on let's Let's see some alfonsin mckanie. Let's see some Some some ben macklemore. Let's not see lebron. let's not see a d. Let's go easy at this point. We're going to be the seven no matter what we got our legs under us and we look good. Okay so let me throw a throw a weird kind of side theory at you jack. One of the things that i've always loved about. Lebron is that he. He pays attention to everything. He knows where his places in history and he likes to compare himself against the greats like you heard him earlier this year somebody some question and he goes well. You know. I should won the mvp in two thousand thirteen. And here's why he broke down like the votes in ryo remember he he. He pays attention all that stuff remember when he sprained his ankle. Earlier this year yes and he ended up missing the next twenty two games. Do you remember. He went back in right after he sprained it. Hit a three pointer and then came out. no i didn't okay so he did. He sprained his ankle. He said nope. I'm staying in. He hit a three pointer and then he walked off the court. Said i can't go. There are some the believe lebron was so conscious of his double figure scoring streak that he scored in double figures fort. That way more than anybody else. More jordan karima crazy street over a thousand times okay. He's done that and that he went in there. He respected that streak and then he said okay. I can't go anymore. Yeah one of the theories being kicked around today. And i know these are all a little bit conspiracy theory so tatchell. I love a good conspiracy theory. If you buy it. Okay he says. I'm reading lebron sitting on instagram today. Most twenty five point per game seasons in nba history. There are four people tied at twelve twelve times where they've averaged more twenty five or more points in a season michael jordan kevin durant kobe. Bryant karl malone twelve. Yup lebron has done seventeen times and last night. Had he not played in the fourth quarter. That streak would've ended. It would have ended at sixteen. He needed to score seven more points. And i think when he was adding everything up and he said okay and matter of fact on his instagram post. Today he said since i was nineteen years old. I'm a pass first guy always have been. that's why i'm never mentioned with the greatest scores. That's perfect because i'd rather keep it that way. And then he prints that stat right at that. He's one of the great scores of all time. Probably go down as the all time leading scorer in nba history. So i think these records in these milestones mean something to their in his head. Do you think he knew. Yeah and i. I kinda like it. I don't know you can't protect against sports injury. You gotta play. And he's got this incredible body of work. And i think when he's done he's going to be the only guy ever to score to beat karim scoring record is gonna finish top five and assists. Nobody's ever done that to be top five scoring and top five and assists and if he wins the title this year. I think it's going to be one of his greatest achievements. He's coming from the seven seed lower. See it would be the lowest seed ever to win a championship. Yeah and everybody's doubting him. Which i think is just adds fuel to his. Although do you think they are there now. The second pick in vegas. Who the times cnn do you think brooklyn. Do you really think everybody is under. Because i look at wednesday's game. And i'm like oh man this lebron time man this is i'm going to bring back a phrase from last year and save piece of cake. Where is my cake. John i love. I love lebron. Ad wednesday night against golden state and even if they made for member. That's not the end. If they lose they would play friday night against the winner of memphis san antonio and have another chance to get in as the eight. Wouldn't that be funny if they ended up at eight and the clippers did all that to avoid the lamb in the second round. Now i think what the clippers did is first of all. This is what. I call tempting fate. Now we talked about this. This is tempting fate. Because i thought that was just embarrassing on the on their part i mean. They sat everybody they sat collide they sat. Pg they sat marcus. Morris region rondo demarcus cousins. Nick tomb. They did play a visa. Zubac's for civic but i think between played a little bit auditing okay. Maybe houston game. I can't remember bots played six seconds but that was just to keep his consecutive game streak alive and was it all. Those guys were outlast. They found a way to lose to houston in oklahoma city. In order to back into the playoffs and dodge the lakers and watch dallas lie. I cannot wait. I hope dallas just punches in the mouth knocks him to the mat done. Well dallas beat them two out of three times this year. Yeah the first game didn't play but dallas beat him by fifty absolutely destroyed him and then a back to back Set of games in the middle of the season. They split them and they luca them down last year. They don't have a lot of answers for lucas. So that's a real series. But i think these series are kind real series. I do. i can't wait for this week. I think this week is going to be awesome. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I think it's gonna be the healthiest they've been all year. I mean not looks like he's he's working his way back to form caruso look like his usual self last night. Andre drummond has been playing really good. I think that this is going to be fun if you're a laker. Fan buckle up because it's going to be a fund ride start and they're going to punch him. Now i love that. Lebron said oh steph. Cnbc to steph have a pretty solid mvp case. I think he does. Yokich is the mvp. Yeah but don't you think it's desktop three. Yeah yeah no question. I think also people are sleeping on. Who do you think a second embiid embiid and then stout staff and then chris paul chris. Paul deserves more Mvp consideration that team. He's not even the player on last year. He's not even the best player on that team. Does that matter but same time. Same team as last year in essentially turned into the number two seed in the west. It's hard to give the. Mvp to a guy isn't even the best player on his own team. That would be where i'd have that problem. I don't even have chris paul first team all. Nba oh really. Yeah i have. I have luca and steph as the i team guards right but if you talk about valuable and i don't think valuables always stats see to measure. Yeah there are a lot of people making your your chris paul argument that yeah believe. He thinks that he should be the mvp now. Do i think he's getting past the second round. No i don't think phoenix and chris. Paul are getting past the second round. Because that's just what. Chris paul winds up doing every year but i do think he deserved consideration by the way eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn it is a gigantic week and you can react to all of it all week. Long eight seven seven seven. Espn you can email the show. Venice mace email dot com. You can tweet us at venice. Mace mash at la airland. Or you. can i g me. Because everyone g me. John at venice mace. And of course you can. You can g lindsay lindsay. What's your what's your instagram handle. Well thanks for asking mace. It's lindsey baseball. There you go. I knew that would make you happy. You put lindsay in a good mood speaking of food. Yeah raise your hand if you thought the angels we're gonna cut albert pools and he was going to sign with the dodgers. Put your hand down. Nobody thought that. Now here's the thing. John back and if you baseball if you went back and looked at listen to the tape i actually did suggest at one point absolutely not absolutely never i didn't. I didn't go hard on it. I said well. Dodgers need a right handed bat. I mean it wouldn't be stupid. They got one now. Yeah that's that's the thing about the dodgers as they have struggled they really don't have a consistent right handed bat the bench. That's the that's one of the issues that they've got now we'll pool halls plot originally. I thought no not really. He'll just be a pinch hitter. But now in case you missed it cory. Seager broke his wrist and he's gone for six weeks. Which means i think the easiest way for the dodgers to put together their lineup. Now is to is to leave. Chris taylor and center. As long as he's healthy leave mucci and right. Slide muncie over to second lux over to shortstop and play either holes or this new guy yoshi to go at first base. That's i think one way that they can go. I think looks play shortstop. just fine. chris. Taylor play shortstop. But if you were to pull. Chris taylor from center field. You'd move mukhi to center and then you need a rightfielder so you you create a whole that way so it's gonna be interesting. The dodgers clearly looked at their bench and thought about it. The same way i did that. They've got a bunch of kind of minor league guys who were not ready for primetime and they went out and got some veteran guys whether this works or not i mean. Albert pulses probably good for one ninety and and seven eight homers. I actually think there's a certain. Reo now where pools plays a lot. More than just as a pinch hitter because you mentioned about seager so goes to short months he goes to second pools goes to i and you could pretty much playing against left handed pitchers anytime. There's a lefty right right. And and susu go. The guy they got from tampa could play against all the right handers. He's a left handed bat so absolutely. Yeah pools may have lucked into a situation where he's going to get what he wanted. Which is you know regular bats. Yeah he's actually going to play a little by. The dodgers looked much much better over the weekend much better. They've snapped out yesterday but that was the only game they've lost like in a week. Yeah i think they had a five game four five game winning streak and then lost yesterday. They get david price back today. To try and price and wednesday is gone to the game tonight. Lindsay excited yes. I mean i'm excited. It'll be like my first. Yeah my first sporting event. I guess since code and everything happened so our baseball games miss you into a dodger game. Baseball games. The same as basketball games today. Ask for proof of vaccination when you walk in. I did not. I was not asked for proof of vaccination i was not am sitting in the fully vaccinated section though so right cheaper fully vaccinated sections right at any point lindsay. Did you have to provide proof in order to buy tickets for that section. I didn't i am but it says when you get in you have to show. Yeah and then the rest of the stadium. The rest of the dodgers stadium is got pods of people. You know to four two four. They've got those all over the place. So they're still social distancing and the rest of the stadium and then shoulder to shoulder in the vaccination only section. So i'm excited for you lindsay. Gano ball game tonight at eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn there is so much going on right now and john. I happened to come across and i don't want to say who. The announcer is but used phrase that we must take out behind the barn and put a bullet in score the basketball. Nope different one different. That's coming up next for plus your calls mason ireland seventeen espn. So i m forget your calls. I hit a couple of buckets balls. Yeah thank you and he can well. Here's my i'm getting. i'm i'm getting elevation mutt. I'm slicing everything to the right now. I know what you're doing. Yeah describe it. I'm not addressing the ball straight right correct. You're not squaring the club face at impact in other words. 'cause you're right handed you're winding up. You're delivering the club to the ball but pay attention to where the face of the club is pointing win. Impact dot square that. What do you do it with your wrists. You get your risk rating angle. So i've got good. I've got my second golf lesson today. I've been putting my ass off. I've got carpeted area. I just keep putting putting putting. I'm telling you that's why i'm gonna i'm gonna beat you on the green you know you have to get the ball on the green i. That's right but once i get there man they call me one. Putt mace good to know one mace. To no i so the expression that the needs to go away the express. And i don't wanna say who said it because that would be. I don't want to be mean rick monday. So it's on the season. He has twelve home runs on the season. No runs this season. i can't stand on the. It doesn't make any sense on the season that's not logically day saved a flag. I burned in centerfield bad. Dare you disparage. I hear it all the. I hear it all. It's not it's not just where it's a lot of people he's got. He's batting three thirty on the season. It's not on the. He's been three here. I think you're making a mountain weight. I do you use it. not that i know of. I don't think so. It doesn't sound like something i would say. I think it's the tackiest hacky. Sports announcer phrase. There is along with score the basketball. Yes score the score. he's scar. yeah never makes any sense to me. What other ball would he be scoring. He knows how to score the basketball. No he can score. That's it that's it that's all it takes. Hey george in corona is on line one. Hey george what's going on. So i have an issue with me. he's got to be the best Pancake flipper ever. Because his stance on our pool halls when he wasn't producing for the angels and getting picked up by the dodgers. And did i did. I say this was a great signing for the dodgers not wait to kick albert pools. I just said he's going to bat one nine hundred for the dodgers. I don't know if there is another side to that. You hear me say that georgia you're gonna let one ninety with nine home runs for the dodgers good signing bed signing by the dodgers mace. Or it's got to be a bad signing because he mason's guy where you gotta producer me if you're not producing honor need anymore my team. So why would the dodgers sign him. If he wasn't produced for a different team sports halls time will tell. I don't know how much he's gonna play. They do need a right. Handed pinch hitter off the bench. They haven't had that in a while. And that's where they're soft so yeah as a pinch hitter. I'm cool if he plays a lot of first base. I think it's a mess. I just a good trouble op flipping pancakes with you. Kidding kiddingly flop. I just said he's got about one ninety. How could i be running outta town quick enough when he was wearing red now that he's wearing blue it's all. I don't even think that is our town where they play. So i'd have to run them out of that town way down there. I got an email from a couple of days for matt jaekle. He says as lifelong angels fan. I got to speak out on albert pools. You got it right ireland. Has it all wrong. Because remember i said sure why not cut him. He's not he's not producing and you said oh he's all famous he said i celebrated when we signed him but it just hasn't worked out and it's very clear that we paid big money for his past exploits. Ireland said it would be like releasing colby in his last year not even close. It would be like the lakers signing lebron based on what he did with the heat and cavs and then having a massively unperformed and underperforming and miss the playoffs. Albert didn't hit three hundred in any season with the angels and the angels didn't win a single playoff game during his tenure. He did he did lead the league in grounding into double plays quiet his contract a massive bust and i find it hard to get sentimental about his departure and again. You heard what i said. He's going to bat one ninety for the dodgers. All right. let's see let's see how quickly you flip flop when he hits three home runs in a week and carries the dodgers kidding me. I'm rooting for the guy. I just don't believe that if if your best option at first base is albert pools. I think you probably have issues with your bench. Well wait a minute. we we all know. The dodgers have issues with their bench. We've been talking about it for two week right right. This is how they're trying to address it. They signed paulson. They trade for a toby. I think i got that right. Took yoshi convince you should just ride with it because it sounds like you know what you're talking about. He was batting one ninety seven with the raise when they dfa them. He was big in the Japanese leader but andrew freedman has a habit of picking up guys. Who are like max. Muncie was like practically on the scrap heap signed him. Drew seem with chris. Taylor and those guys come here and they can play. I hope he gets. I hope i hope we have a good option at first base while while cory seager is injured answer base. That's months not weeks right broken wrist. I said two months two months boy. That's a huge bat to leave. That is a huge picked him to win the. Mvp happened this year. All right here's a here's tc in la atc. What's up man. Hey how you guys doing every ganic week man okay. It is a guy ganic week but let me tell you guys something. There are two series in the nba playoffs. That are absolute dreams. Series and a raising bonanza rating bonanza for the nba. One of them is the western conference. Finals the lakers vs clippers. Can we agree on that. That would be that would be great showdown in the western conference finals. And as long as the lakers wind up in the seven as long as they went on wednesday the clippers the lakers will be on opposite sides of the bracket in that is possible. Exactly so the other one is obviously the lakers playing brooklyn in nba finals right. Okay now with that being said if the clippers we're trying to avoid anyone it would have been denver. You know what i'm saying. Is this here. You guys say at the clippers tank. The last two games to avoid the lakers in the first round right now the nba's nightmare would've been the lakers clippers plan in the first round. Yeah and by the way. The clippers made a mistake. It would have been better for them to catch the lakers in the first round while they're still assembling it and putting it all together than in the finals when the lakers will be rolling and hot. I'm gonna throw the chris paul period that he threw at charles. Barkley night. you can. You can't duck and dodge in the west. The west is that good right but tci you don't. You don't think that the clippers tried to win those games do you. I think that the clippers looked at who they were playing and they thought that they can win. Both of those games by not put houston's trying to get the best lottery pick as well as okay see so i mean right and they both want the arguably the two worst teams in the league. But guess what i heard tie lou say a one of his shows that it was important for the clippers to get the number three spot. Well if it was so important for them to get the number three spot. Why didn't they play by the last two games. I totally agree they. It was it was. It was take gymnastics on steroids. This weekend i understand. For example i understand load management. John you don't. I understand load management. Like i understand why you'd give a guy on a wednesday night off second night of a back to back in the middle of february right that makes sense to me resting everybody resting against seven layers worse teams in the league. Yeah i mean that was a deliberate and obvious. Tank job obvious. Let's goes for me. I mean if it if it works out and they make it to the western conference finals than we can all say tyler knew exactly what he was doing. Go luca yes so. Let's see if it works out for policy Eight seven seven seven ten espn gigantic week. We're tackling all of it for you and john coming up next for you. Could you or anybody. Beat a grizzly bear in a fight. Don't answer yet. Okay that's coming up next mason ireland seventeen. Espn at roadrunner three six. Why do you hate rick monday. I do not hate. Why did hey rick. Monday donate regret. He's a wonderful guy. He has one expression in his bag. That i don't like and that is on the season. Four home runs and twelve. Rbi's is on the it's not. It's this season this season. That's all you that's all you need all right so john by the way. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn there's a ton of stuff going on. We'll get your calls. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn so yougov poll legitimate polling operation surveys two thousand americans and they asked what animals could you beat in a fight. If you were unarmed. What could could okay in a fight if you were unarmed. So i'm going to go through these and you tell me if you think you could beat this particular animal and lindsay whore. Hey you guys do it too if you could beat them without a weapon of any kind rat a rat of course oh yeah Rat rush seventy. Two percent of americans say they can beat a rat on what about those other thirty. What is it twenty percent twenty percent chickens. Are they think he's gonna chew them to death or house cat. A housecat easy. Yeah easy horn. Yeah linzie. Why would i want to beat up. A house. cat hurt anybody. The house cat is attacking the ideal day. Hack rick gunny sack. Yeah yeah. I i think a house cut sixty nine percent of americans say they can beat a house cat. I think that's easy to a goose. Goose yeah i can take a goose. I'll tell you what yeah. We're not grabbing by that long net around boom. It's all. is it a canadian goose. Well i'll tell you what these are mean man. Yeah a i could take goose. Sixty one percent of americans say they could take a goose a medium size dog attacks. You could you win. What kind of dog. It just says medium sized dog so like sophie. My kim reaganism medium size. I can't i can't hurt a dog. No but the dog is packing. I'd take the l can't hurt the allen. just let you all right. I'll take on it though. Yeah yeah there you go hori an eagle and eagle by the way forty forty nine percent of americans say they could beat a medium sized dog and eagle. Yeah but i mean he would fly away. That eagle would chicken out with dive bombing attacks. You win the fight. But are we going. He would fly away like the chicken. He is come on back down here eagle with go apparently in some parts of the country now. The eagles used to be an endangered species and now are very Where we have plenty of them and in some parts of the country there swooping down and taking small dogs. Okay so true story. I'll give you a thirty second story. So i play golf with kevin conley from the guy who played an entourage. Yeah so we're playing golf last week and at the top of this tree. A hawk is swooping down and attacking the nest of a crow like okay and the crew is crowing loud. Because i think he's coming for the babies and the hawk just keeps coming and coming and coming and the croaking conley takes a golf ball. Throws it like three story to three stories up nails hits the nest and chases the hawk away. Wow he throughout his arm but it was worth it for the story. Yeah now let's that's impressive eagle. It's the next one after thirty percent. Say they could beat an eagle eight chimpanzee eight now. Be crafty not taking my chances. Nope john went. Chimpanzee will literally tear your face. No you know what i can take him. You know how run due to on. John goes on the dragon on that thing okay. A kangaroo no way pass heart packers. i've seen too many kangaroos on videos at kangaroos. Kicking guys in the crotch. Only fourteen upset of americans say they can be a kangaroo. They're getting realistic okay. Now a guerilla new think if a guerilla attacks you win. I want to know the human says he can take the gorilla while there are eight percent of americans who believe they could beat if they were attacked. That's logan and jake paul doing it clicks. That's it and the last one and this is the one. I actually teased with a grizzly bear. Could you be a grizzly bear attacked. You know who could beat a grizzly bear. A six percent of americans say they could beat a grizzly bear. Yeah i wanna see one of these. Six percent take on grizzly bear in a steel cage match. I don't even know into strategy would be with. Who are you betting on. Have you ever seen a bear in person. Oh yeah now that you're a golfer. You've opened yourself up to the wild kingdom so one time golfing in canada. I'm on a father son trip. And i look in the fairway and there is a bear in the middle of the fairway in vancouver a grizzly bear like three hundred yards away. And i call over the marshall guy that works there i go. Hey man what are we supposed to do. There's a grizzly bear in the fairway. And the marshall goes does he have read collar or blue collar. look over. I said it's blue. He goes hit away. That one's friendly. You see the with the red color. Get the hell outta. I've actually been relatively close to a grizzly bear. Yeah my dad used to go bear. Hunting baragan indeed might shoot bears and take pictures of himself holding up. The bears thinks. Oh yeah those that does not leading media. Yeah yeah bear trying to attack me once. How'd you get out of it. Pots and pans being positive fans together stephen potter and it's now we bang them together in scream to make him go away he was. We had all kinds of bear encounters when when we go camping in allegany state park there black bears they. They're so familiar with people that they don't even faze them anymore. Bear the one. You're supposed to stay really really still and not look at in the i. Well what would you do if a bear was trying to climb through the window of your cabin bill. You start banging pots and pans and screaming. Pots and pans is an excellent solution. If the bear is actually crawling through your window. That is a good suggestion. So there you have it. People are very overly overly confident of being able to be because as a least that's ridiculous six percent of americans say yeah. I'll take that bear. You're a fool your fool so one of the things that happened this week and then i think is really interesting is that we've we've talked about this a little bit but the lakers are getting ready for golden state on wednesday. And you have until i am personally. I personally believe that this game is a piece of cake. Where's my cake. How do you feel about this. John three times this year and the lakers bloom out twice. Nice in the first one. Though the lakers were up fourteen in the fourth quarter and then they came back and curry. Hit a three at the end to winning. You have to have to have to have a healthy lead with three minutes to go. They can do that so he can't curry the game like did you see him yesterday against me. I just making shots from the harbour. Stupid he shooting from every. Yeah and and so. If they can do that i think they find. I'm fairly confident the lakers win that game and for some reason they don't. I think they would win. Friday i have no fear that they will not be in. The real playoffs. Agree this weekend. Much better to win on wednesday much rather face phoenix. We lose around much rather be on the other side of the bracket than the cl. It lines up perfectly for the dream your dream. The lakers clippers western conference. Finals would love it. Yeah that would be exciting. It would be exciting. I mean. I think the lakers kicked this. Not out of the The clippers the way they played this weekend but yeah i think i actually think that would be close. That's lakers and five. I'd go six or seven but let's honor in honor of every series. I'm gonna call lakers and five lakes thought was basically last year. It was lakers and five right up until the finals. And then it was lakers and six exactly eight seven seven seven ten. Espn how do you feel about this. Matchup winston against golden state. And what do you think of what the clippers did trying to back their ways. They're back their way out of meeting the lakers in the first round had they become the six there now on the opposite side of the bracket eight seven seven seven ten. Espn also coming up for you. John have you ever heard of the ambae's an award called the ambitious. No i will tell you what it means next mason ireland seventeen. Espn so yeah. i don't know. Did i mistake. When i said albert pool is going to about one ninety nine thinking you were so ready to to get him off at the angels that i think people are surprised that your even the least bit welcoming to the dodgers I said he's going to about one ninety. I will stand by that one ninety nine home runs. That's what albert pools the dodgers this year. And i think if you're relying our pull's to play any stretch first base you've got real issues with your team. You know one of the things he said in horror as putting together some of his comments now and we'll have more here in a second but one of the things he said at his press conference today was the dodgers have so many problems trying to find guys who can hit that. He's going to try and coax david freeze to come back. What do you think of that. I love david freeze really valuable dodger very clutch. But he's been away from the game for one years to my wires we'll find out. He was but he was really good for the dodgers really valuable guy. I would feel better with him at first base than i would with albert pools. Let's go to sean and encino. Sean you're seventeen. Espn what's going on. Man you guys doing good. What's up happening. Just real defend mesa apu holes. Pools was making forty million with the angels. Four hundred thousand with the dodgers. So there's no risk. I actually don't hate this move. I think that the dodgers are so desperate for any right handed hitting that if pools works out great and if not it's not like you say shannon ten big of a risk yeah exactly But my point There was an article on. Espn dot com today. I don't know if you guys saw it Talking about the different matchups and the also showed the pan capacity for each team for their home. Game this so utah has seventy one percent fan capacity fellay l. a. only eleven percent Denver has forty percent. Philly has fifty percent brooklyn ten percent. So i mean the know. That's a big deal. You know you go to utah seventy percent and that's a big advantage. They come to la it only ten percent and what gavin newsom doing we have like your lowest covert rate in the country. You know i. I don't understand the question you're asking is why he might get kicked out of office office. I don't think there's people mad at him that it makes you know you go down that road you you'll get a lot of answers but here's the thing. June the fifteenth is the date that he circle now as as the all clear date. But because we have the lowest positivity rate in the country hopefully change his mind. I mean i honestly. I don't know why the lakers couldn't open capacity to people who have their vaccinations present. Your back saination card and that way just like that concert. I went to shoulder shoulder because everybody was vaccinated. If you're vaccinated the risk the risk is virtually none at all. So why wouldn't the lakers set up that scenario given the fact that for example the dodgers having all that section. That concert was all vaccinated. Why not do that john right. We'll because the county won't let them. I mean they're going by county guidelines the lakers doing it. But i don't want to be interesting to see tonight if lindsay gets checked at any point because she said she bought tickets in vaccine had sexual well. It says they got. They sent like three or four emails about it saying you have to enter during a certain gate and you have to provide your proof of accident. I just wanna see if if you do that. If they have do that will be interested to see how efficient is and how it works and if it does i think in other teams can copy it. But i'll say this sean. The crowd wednesday night for the banner reveal was about four thousand people and they were loud. I know it's not a huge number but you could definitely tell. There was a crowd there. And i can only assume mace that. That number is going to continue to pick up. I would think so. I would think so if we could get even ten thousand fans in the building which would be like fifty you said seventy one for utah if we fifty percent occupancy. It would make a big difference and normally when the lakers play the clippers. Even if it's a clipper home game they sell all their tickets to the laker fans. The laker fans will pay. Yeah and and then it turns into seven laker home games. Yeah i was just looking what you can get into that game for on wednesday night because obviously with the limited capacity. It's going to be. It's going to be different. The it looks like you can get into the building in the far three hundred so that corner. Three hundred section. Yeah for two hundred and four dollars so the get in price is two hundred. Four dollars isn't crazy out of control. They'll go up but it's not crazy out of control. Is it no that granted those are those are its rough to have those seats upper corner. Yeah i like to be in the building it is. It's absolutely it'll be fun to be in the bill sunday. If that's a great game someday you will be able to tell your grandkids. The way lebron beat steph in a one game playing at staples center so it could goodwin to go to eight seven. Seven seven ten espn. John i mentioned this before. Have you heard of the ambi the ambi. Es no never okay. So these are the brand new. You know we've got the oscars and tonys in the emmys. The grammys in the people's choice over all those. So there's a new awards program called the ambulance. That is recognizing great podcasts. Across the country great podcasts. And you know we've got obviously my pa- my podcast is is out there. A lot of people have most people have podcast. Podcast up soon lindsay. You don't a podcast. I don't have one myself. Yeah you should start one. You should start one because we're all doing it because they are giving awards for best podcast indifferent cap best pop culture podcast which i really feel like i should have been nominated for the culture pop punk sports. Podcast we made you know the trick with these podcast awards that are going around right now. What somebody who worked in the podcast industry for a long time. You have to pay to get nominated. You have to nominate yourself star on the walk of fame. If you took the money you're in you have to pay. I think it's like one hundred and fifty bucks at at least one hundred fifty bucks dig to nominate yourself but then if got nominated why because i get to give a speech only win. He's right cast academy you have to win. It would be good for. It would be good for the podcast to win an award the award. Winning culture podcast. Yeah you can say that. Anyway you got the john ireland award for best podcast. It's a good one right now. I'm just going to say it right off the bat the award wednesday award you won the john ireland award for best podcast with a new one by the way with lou freak no junior this week. Who's on swat and of course grew up in the famous family with lou. I asked him because he's like a fitness guys on the cover of always kinds of magazines. And i said basically get to look like you and he said the way you start first of all it. You're eating he said. Secondly if you're serious about it eat an entire head of broccoli that will show your commitment to it. And that's what you need more of these macro whatever he said but eat ahead of broccoli was his advice which i have not done yet broccoli a lot anyway but a whole head of broccoli no whole head of raw broccoli. Now that's too much lou low. You're killing us all right. let me see. There's one more thing. I wanted to get to here before we go to fasttrack It's a correction. That cory seager his injuries to his hand and he has gone. The the floor for his return is four weeks. But according to dave roberts it's impossible to to assign a definite touted he's right. You never know how long. Hey i want to circle back to the culture. Podcasts i guess did you have tom everett. Scott on yeah. Did you ask him about that thing. You do. Of course did you ask him about. I'm sorry i did not know about this. I'm going. i love tom. Efforts got tom rivers. Got a great guy. He's a here's a great part in la la land. It's a small part but he's got a great part. You know what i'm saying. Yes yes he does. He also was on the cast in the cast of remember that old sitcom grace under fire. No god really yeah and brett butler when brett butler i. I've heard stories about that. Show casey sander on that. See sandra my friend. Julie white was they all said. Just what nightmare of set backs that up in the podcast tells a story about how rough it was on that. So yeah you can get that culture. Pop podcast tom. Everett scott fantastic guy. All right you wanna you wanna do this thing you ready for ready for fasttrack a we already at fasttrack fasttrack man. This show is flying by. We got so much going. We'll get you right after fasttrack. Fasttrack is coming up next for you. Mason ireland seven ten espn.

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The Kilcoyne Conversation  John Rodriguez

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The Kilcoyne Conversation John Rodriguez

"And welcome it is the kilcoyne conversation. We've been doing this for months. But now it's official. The podcast can be found on the website. Scoop with daily mac dot com. You may have heard. Dan agok myself talking about it on monday. But every tuesday we'll put out the kilcoyne conversation. You know where to find it now. In one location you can always download it have directly sent to you subscribe at i tunes google youtube where we like to get your weekly. Your regular podcast. You can do that with kilcoyne conversation and this week. This is fun going back in time. I love checking in with former players. And maybe somebody's been off the grid for a little while. John rodriguez j rod. Don't tell tony we're still call them. J. rod came along had a great time in cardinal history. Two thousand five two thousand six his two years with the cardinals. Some huge moments a world series title in two thousand six a guy who could just flat out hit the numbers. Tell you that. And it'd been buried in the yankees organization. Finally got a chance in saint louis had some big moments and was bit of a phenomenon there for a while. What a fun time. Not just a winning time but man the the team that was in place. Jim edman scott rolen albert pools and a j rod telling us what he's up to these days keeping busy. He was on my brain. Because i'd saw popping up on twitter re tweeting a lot of saint louis stories and sports things happening in our town and ran into a cousin of his. Who happens to be a police officer here in saint louis so a lot of reasons why he was on the brain. So we'd go back in time talk a little baseball. Some cardinal moments with john rodriguez and as always the kilcoyne conversation is presented by triad bank. They're located in front nak. Clint roads a block west of lindbergh. Real close to highway forty and lindbergh's. What's easy to get to. But more importantly it's eight louis-based bag started in two thousand and five so it's real simple. 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Do you know what you're by the do you know your career batting average For the big league big leagues. Yeah but to ninety eight. Three hundred two to ninety eight on the nose stat Well let's start with this. Bring everybody up to date. I know you're a busy guy The kids the academy. Tell everybody what you're doing. Yeah i've just My kids and my wife Living in new york have a baseball academy that. I've been running now for probably close to five years now Just doing three. We have some travel Teams but also trying to like get back to the less fortunate that you know really can't afford lessons or you know do anything with baseball. I obviously pay for it. But you know we try our best to you. Know give scholarships and give out free lessons so stain involved. The game of baseball Stanton island guy drafted by the yankees and cardinal fans may remember you were in their system for a really long time right and then finally said i gotta try something else with the yankees for eight and a half years and i was you know that was before the luxury tax if we had the luxury tax when i was playing their out of been Probably without a chance in the big leagues they would have found a spot. Your senior on the roster. Yeah how tough was. Because you're like you're mentioning. And i was mentioned your stats mean. You could always hit. How tough is that. When you're at the aaa level and just can't quite get that call. It is tough but you know that's part of the game you know all i just kept doing was battling and just hopefully another team you know. She's my season. My silane and you know took a chance on me and guess who it was. Saint louis cardinals. I'm totally grateful for them. Yeah and you come along. Two thousand five played in fifty six games the next year as mentioned the world series year you played the hundred and two games what a loaded roster to. How vivid are those memories. And how unique for you. Because you played at the old bush you played it the new bush. You carl for those two years at the big league level and you played at both stadiums Through it a little bit because two thousand five at closes out the old bush. And even though you guys lost that series with houston to me still really memorable night being at the park. And the game's over and seeing albert pools larry walker come back out of the clubhouse waving to fans and how vivid is that memory. Why i still remember like it was yesterday. You know Just for me just being there. You know just getting a taste of you know the big leagues. I didn't care if it was bush. Hit him new busch stadium. You know was was this amazing for me and then to i got the just seeing those guys you know that i've been watching on tv for a while just to see him and then be able to Be a part of their team and play with them. Was you know. Obviously a dream come true but also you know just to pick their brains and not know it. Is you know what it's about to be in the big leagues how to stay there. How how do you know just about everything and just become a true professional when you know all lots of our pool whole Scott rowland jimmy. Admins larry walker sanders in a lot of those guys you know under their wing and just you know. Put me in the right direction to succeed. And i'm definitely Indebted to know guys wanna loaded roster and then you come up. I think sanders got hurt. And you get the call up and you played well right away in their head to be pressure after all those years waiting for that opportunity. How much pressure did you feel like to to perform so that you could stay. The truth was just felt normal to me. Like i was just weird like that especially in the minor leagues. I never felt like pressure. It was always anxiety. Like i just wanted to gain to start. You know it was never nothing was like i. I wasn't scared. They were like. I said no pressure. Just everything was just excited with me. Like i wanted things to get going. So that way everything could just click. And that's why. I felt like i had good in the big leagues. And if i like. I had better in the big leagues and the minor league. Sometimes 'cause i just the openness and having fifty thousand fans instead of you know five hundred thousand and you know made a big difference but how about you see never feel the nerves. The pressure about in the annals. Es in two thousand five it was the famous the edmonds at bad he gets thrown out down in houston. I know feel he so edwards at the gets thrown out by phil cozy the mill on the route going frigging crazy because admits gets thrown out. And i'm trying to. What was the count you had to go. Pinch hit mid at bat right. Yeah i think. I have a thinking i might have been one striker two strikes already so i got older and i think i went all the way to greece was either to two or three two and they were playing. They were playing no doubles at the at the point and this time it was that uphill which they don't have any more it had enough hill. So tha vera's us remember avert playing center field and he was probably about one or two steps on the hill and took a fastball. Soares left centerfield and it was right over the home run line and he ought to do is jump up probably about two feet and he caught a hold on he robbed me call home run and that would have been up there we would. We would have taken the lead right there. Yeah i think it was a one run game. You see how i mean. How nerve wracking is that. Because you're not thinking about to pinch it because edmonds is at the plate. But that's the thing in situations like that if it comes up so fast that you can't think like for me. It was like right administers got out. We're done one. We have a guy. I think it was either on first or second and i'll have to drive this guy in no matter. What let's i mean. I see a ball up and drive them in. And that's all i was really thinking about how to really think about like the situations like with their crowd and you know that it was playoffs. I just took it as just a regular game. Like i said i'm just mentally. I'm just weird like that. I don't let nothing stays in. The i just put horse blinders on and i just go forward and i probably is probably like that because where i grew up in new york you know. I grew up in the streets of new york city And everything was asked to be on my toes ready to go. So i guess i just took that into the game and it happened to work out for me. And then the next game and an epic home run by albert pool. Swirl there i'm in that tunnel right behind home plate. We're about to go on the air and i'm getting ready to go on the air because the games on fox and i'm thinking i'm right in my notes saying oh well great season hundred five wins or whatever. One hundred wins whatever it was like. Oh well yeah. And i'm going. Well these things happen. You know season's end. You know tough break for tony and the gang and then albert just crushes it and i remember seeing george h w bush. The older bush like get squirted through this tunnel. All gonna head hanging down there all bomb because they thought this is it. We're gonna clinch What was your vantage. Point at the albert homerun moment to enter the The dugout and like just hoping and praying that he does something special right here. And i've never ever in my life heard fifty thousand fans go quite all at once and then about twenty eight of us screen like it was just it was it was unreal. It was it was a situation where you can't you can't write if you can't write it or even scripted. It was it was your amazing. What was the plane ride back. You're still down three two in the series. And i guess the houston legend. Now is they said on their charter flight to saint louis brad. Osma like grab the pa or something. It's hey guys look out your window. The pools homerun just past kinda made a joke about it so that lidge could laugh a little bit How about for you guys. There had to be yet still down in the series. No we still. We definitely felt like we had the momentum. You know Especially going back home. You know but we just fell short. you know it just. It just happened that way. And i guess you know god meant for it to be that way because we definitely had an interesting season the next year so you know what the opening of the new stadium. Barely getting into the playoffs. Probably i think we still have. We still hold the record for worst record making it to make it into the playoffs. And especially that's another record Winning it all on top of that. 'cause nobody gave us a chance when they said we were gonna get swept by every team. We played and it didn't happen that way. The famous line by the time you get to the world series. The famous line was tigers three in meaning they were so much better but so the the run starts and it is crazy because the oh four-team is great. They don't get this win the series they get to it in two thousand five. The team again is great. And don't get to the world series. No six everybody's injured. You still got role in an edmonds and pools but a lot of injuries. Once you get in things start clicking and the famous story is about edmund given out the game ball in san diego ronnie belliard. And that that sort of like a rallying cry. What do you remember that moment. He did he did that. The first game in san diego and and after that he did it every day you know he just wanted to show his leadership and you know pump all the guys up on a mil- who wants to next game ball. Who's the next guy to step up. You know everybody did their job. As you know came to the point where everybody that would there would games where we had like three or four guys do their job and he asked to give out three or four game balls you know but it was. It was an amazing ride. I definitely not definitely hold it in my heart mind. I will never forget it. It's it's a great year in my favorite sports memory. And i've been lucky to be a lot of big games but it wasn't even a series win it was game seven and it it's because it's at shea and you can feel it shaking. It's for a lot of reasons to it's because you know rolling was feuding with tony he'd gotten replaced by spiezio. And then in that game. Seven rowlands gonna hit a go ahead. Homerun accept any as robs him but shabas wouldn't have been playing if cliff. Floyd had enrolled his anc coastal cliff. Floyd that play so so the beliefs so the beleaguered scott rolen would have been the frigging hero except he gets robbed. And then yati comes with the huge hit and wainwright's kid. He's got to close it out. And i remember being in the tunnel and right behind home again. Two games on fox. We're about to go on after it's over and they start the Bringing the champagne down on all these carts going by and all these new york cops are standing there. Ready to get on the field once it ends and once the mets start getting rally going. The cops are yelling down. The tunnel bringing the ship back. Mets baby bring the champagne because they think they think. It's about to be about to be an epic mets moment in wayne right gets beltran famously. And then on the field. I said to wainwright. He's a young real young guy that i said. Well what were you thinking. And he said honestly. All i said to myself was. Don't face beltran whatever you do. Because he had been killing the cardinals for years and he said i just. I just didn't wanna see him. Come up but to me and winning. The world series is bigger but that game that setting hostile environment to say the least was insane for you new york. That had to be a hell of a lot of fun to celebrate that night. Exactly you know had. I've never given out so many tickets in my life game because i knew at once we were going to face the mets. You have to purchase your tickets a head of time. So i had to like borrow from other guys and guys back for this and it was. It was unreal but just from my family to come to. You know a big league game you know was amazing for me. Amazing for them and you know something that they will never forget but you still left one thing off of that that That story went anti-chavez. Made the catch. You still do. You remember every time a person you've ever heard this in baseball every time. A person making great cash. They come up the next morning and they got a big hit the always say as as fate would have it or as luck would have. Yeah guess who's leading on yup guests an anti-chavez hit the following anyway bases loaded and he pops up the first First pitch and i was like. Oh my gosh. We're going to win now. That's all. I kept thinking in my head this next inning. They did. They didn't score off of that right there. We're gonna win. And lord behold yati goes deep and then it was just like a dream dramatic Lessening with was was the basis loaded. I don't think i talked about. I should know that by now but it will. I was thinking it was the i thought it was too long but i wasn't sure that we basically loaded whatever it was. It was a problem with time. Appliance discounters a great. 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He's thirty eight thirty thirty eight and he says he's playing two more years because he wants to get the forty as a big league catcher then he can do it. I guarantee you we can do it. He has a different blood. Type like is not. There's not a lot of people without blood type and he has it. You know you can see it in our pool. Halls also is down years at twenty home runs. And that's that's a lotta guys good years you know. And but he we've been spoiled with him. You know hitting thirty five forty forty five home runs that that m hitting twenty twenty twenty. Five home runs is a down year for them. You know and that's ridiculous and that guy could still hit so. But i do miss saint louis man i just i think about you. Think about saint louis all the time and you know the time we had and just fans definitely i. I grew up here in new york. And you know i. I see the yankee fans in met fans. But there's nothing like saint louis fats. I still remember the time where wanted john. Young was old for twenty and he grounded out and he was offered twenty one and the fans in saint. Louis were still cheering for you. Do that and you do that anywhere else. Especially in new york. They're they're asking for your your head. They're asking for your back to be packed but in saint louis those those people out there man. They're so forgiving. it's it's unreal. And i i cherish every moment with those guys and like i said i i i love saint louis and love the fans and i joke with edmonds and i said there was a different era because we didn't have twitter. Not everybody had a camera on the phone. I said you could walk into patios and edmonds might be tending bar. He might be on the bar. And i said you ray king was like the bouncer and i said you have to pay and i said it was so much fun. I was younger than but i just said well you pitcher viewer. They put it in all social media right now. Ed mitchell edmonds might not give a shit. He might still do it but for the most nervous but for you i mean is a two years in the big leagues. I'm sure would have loved more but could you imagined if you get to to have it. Be oh five. Oh six at the old bush. The new bush winning the world series team with molina wainwright pool holes in edmonds. I mean that's a pretty damn run. Oh my gosh yes it was. And of course i would love to. Have you know ten more years. But you know the two years that i had there was amazing and to my second year in the big leagues. I get to win a world series with a team. Like it's it's unheard of you know there's not a lot of guys that can say they you know they wanna world series and they've been in the league for you know fifteen twenty years you know. Ken griffey junior ricky henderson. You know guys like that that you know been there for so long and never had the opportunity to do it you know. I'm definitely blessed. So where's the ring. Where do you keep it off. Faith in a safe. That been hardly ever comes out. I do i check on it to see still. There aren't so how shocked. I mentioned wainwright in molina. Still doing it. How shocked does john rodriguez the news. Tony larussa is going to manage again. At the age of seventy six feeling he was gonna come back but i don't know when but for him to do it now. That's amazing. god. Bless him and you know i hope they have a great season coming up next year and when i remember tony he got mad at the nickname. Remember that joel. Goldberg was covered the team. We're all and we all start calling you jay rod and j. rod. This and said of was i mean. We're just having fun. And tony's wired's damn tight it was. I think it was saying diego post. I got the clips. Because of buddy of mine and tony's and antonis who's jira and he's like a nickname and say well it is and he said well can't do that can't can't take in like made a thing how. What were you aware at the time. Did he come up to you and say move near new nickname. No i think You know what he did say something. He said When did when did they start calling your j. rod and i was like when i first came up with the yankees. You know ninety seven. That's when they started calling me j. rogers for name and he was like no. We're going to call you johnny rod. Your name is johnny. Now johnny rod. We're not quality your j. rod. I was like a whatever you wanna call me. You can call me as long as you keep calling me and then once you're once you're done with the cardinals your friends and family. Did you get to go back to on after that. Well yeah people still call me j rod. I've got a lot of coaches and guys that i play with either. Call me gerardo johnny rob. The last time i saw. i've seen wayne on. Molina was in might have been shoot thousand well. I went down to spring training. And i went into the clubhouse and When it was always teases me about my voice is your jira. Johnny rudd doing tried to do that. New york accent but Yeah no it's like. I said it was an amazing time with those guys. Miss them all the time One thing i am doing is trying to get my foot back in the door. So i wanna i wanna start coaching again. And i you know sent in my resume for this past year but obviously the pandemic happen and nothing happened so hopefully this year. You know cross my fingers. It'll it'll work out so we'll see. Well it's fun to catch up and good to see on twitter because you're very involved with saint louis boards that you'll re tweet and comment on and then i mentioned this earlier. The deep tease officer d as your cousin is a town and country police officer and he basically told me said i ended up here because of him. Now he's back there. Yup it it was meant for him to be there. You know Gray guy love him. he's one of my best friends And yeah i got nothing but love for him. And i pray that he stays safe out there. Well you will forever be jay right. I don t tony. I don't give a damn. I'm not calling anybody. Johnny rod does not sound right bad porn name or something. J. rod is a much better name. John rodriguez cardinal fans Love stories back in the day boy to outstanding years to be a part of cardinal baseball career batting average of two ninety eight. That's pretty damn impressive. The kids when your kids say i don't know. Did you play. Dads look it up. I hit two ninety eight. The big league level okay. John lot of fun to talk to you. Thank you very much hopefully You see me pretty well. That was a lot of fun to catch up with john. Hopefully you enjoyed the conversation as well. The kilcoyne conversation. Now coming out every tuesday on the website. Scoops with danny mac. Cobb you can always subscribe that way. It's delivered directly to you. Martin marlo charlie. I every thursday. A new episode comes out. And then the monday edition is now going to be and dan. I think it's either mondays with matt. 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"Oh man The the new bless your heart love that bless your heart So yeah by the way you missed my whole iota impression in the middle of that that diatribe you on there. Yeah i heard your your yoda cadence. Good smart i am. Yes clever is me. I saw the big story that albert pool says cut by the angels sudden out of the blue. What are they doing. There are certain people in life. Mace certain people that deserve to go out on their own. Okay yeah wouldn't you say he's one of them. You know what he had a legendary career to willie mays his birthday. I mean would you do. Would you do this to willie. Mays i mean come on. He's a modern day. Willie mays probably better statistically than mays. No it's better statistically as but he's he's great. I mean he's looking albert pool he's fifth all-time at home runs second all-time an rbi thirteenth all time and hits. How's that not comparable to maze. It's comparable he's just not better than willie mays is he's in i mean albert pooled is probably statistically the best player left you know that's still playing either him or miguel cabrera in terms of. Yeah those two guys are sort of the guys the volume guys who've had a lot of success over a long period of time. Now what's weird about. This is in lindsay jumping on this. If you know more than what we were texan but did somebody report that. This wasn't joe maddon. That took him out of the lineup. But it came from years the report. Yeah the third front office. That albert pools was six for nine with two doubles. Two homers had a lot of success about against ryan yarborough. The front office benched him last night for the game and he was pissed off. You know what's weird is already. Marino has a history of doing whatever he wants yes remember when he he went and signed vernon wells against the wishes of his own. Gm yup josh hamilton. There's another ardy marino and maybe maybe even pools we in room to us. I think already is one of those kind of job. Cut from the cloth of george steinbrenner. That's gone do what he wants whenever he wants. And you wonder i mean. Obviously they've had huge losses in their pr department. I mean a couple of years ago to meet left to go run the hall of fame and then the worst one of all was eric k. Who's right in the middle of that whole skaggs situation but you would think there's somebody there that would have told him. Hey this is going to look and play horribly. Yeah if we designate albert pools for assignment. And maybe already. Just doesn't care yeah. I don't think he does. I don't think he does. And by the way you know. My philosophy is. he's batted. What over the last five years. He's batted two twenty nine over the last five years right. I was one seventy eight as of this show. One seventy one ninety seven one of those he was. He was under two hundred so far for this year in limited at bats. I mean he was. he's not better than everyday player. So you know my my tendency is to think that you will be tolerated until you can be replaced right. But here's his now replaceable. Would it not have been more palatable for lack of a better word to go to him and say. Hey look you're not hitting obviously we're paying you a lot of money and we're going to continue to pay the money. We think that having you in the clubhouse has value. We got a lot of good young players here. We're going to d. h. u. Against left handed pitchers unless they just want or we're going to play at first base against lifting and listening to rush roster spot a player that is more versatile than that do they want to d. h. o. Tiny every single day. I mean i find that hard to believe away. Minute is that bad same or is just sitting there with lindsay rather as at the end of his career. What about what about is how. How bad is he is. He's actually hitting like forty points better than another then. Francisco lindell indoors. A young guy. He's not done that for five years. Albert pool is bad at two thirty nine over. The last five years has had great years to me have been trained. Has an albert pool. Hosts earned the right to be an ended. The bench pinch hitter against lefties. I mean wouldn't that have been a better way. You give them a start once a week. Maybe the day after otani pitches you use them as a pinch hitter. You have him prayed around the ballpark and wave to people. Hey i got to see. Albert pools play in person and he goes out with dignity. This plane models look bad like night like last night. Let's say it was a perfect night for him to be in the lineup. But he wasn't. Yeah i you know. I think in this is the old rule and i still believe it and i it goes for everything. You will be tolerated until you can be replaced. I understand albert pool holes legendary first ballot hall of famer all that stuff but the the angels are looking for a more all purpose player to sit at the end of the bench and give them mean at this point. Albert pools is a d. h. Or nothing right. He's not a position player anymore. They want somebody there. I'm dressing that can play a position or multiple positions. Otani doesn't have position why it's pitcher right but so that that actually works in your favor. Every every five days he pitches writing. You don't blame the day after he pitches so d. h. pools on those days playing once a week. Yeah i mean i just. He's just not very good anymore right. Y'all any more. That's an accepted part of the argument. But i'm just saying he's he's been so good for so long doesn't he deserve better than this. Yes you by the way mace. Yeah would you have done this to kobe. Done this to coby. Coby at the end of his career shot thirty five percent in his last year. Twenty eight percent from three you can you. I mean you easily could find somebody better than that but but that was a. That was a bad team right. It was a bad team but our pool is not kobe. Bryant is no. He's not looking numbers. I think you'll be as an iconic super stays. Walls is a great player different. Albert's albert pools is eight top twenty hitter all time in baseball. Look it up. I mean albert. Pools was putting up. Mike trout numbers early in his career. I mean he that. Isn't it a fact that he lied about his age. I don't know if it's a fact that isn't that a fraud that he's really probably forty seven years old. I even even better. If he's forty seven and he's still been able to have the career that he's had even though you know he's been down the last five years. I think it's even better. Just comparing him to francis indoor we get it. You hate francisco indoor. I'm just making the point that the angels trying to make the contracting needles new when they signed him to a ten year deal. Don't you think that's something you have to think. Well we're we were in love. This guy would want to give them a great deal on rewarded for his success. Give him a ten year. Two hundred fifty whatever million dollar deal and knowing that at the end of his contract he's not going to be playing like he used to so at that point when you have a hall of famer on your team and you realize oh what. He isn't playing the way he used to just like. We thought when we signed and ten years ago to deal so let's at least give them the dignity of finishing up payments. Should we should open the phones on this eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn if you're the angels did they. Did they handle this right. Are you with mason. That you will be tolerated until you can be replaced albert. You were great or does albert better and may so. I'm gonna come back at you about something. I want you to pull up. Albert pool says baseball reference page the first ten years of his career matchup against anybody ever running that he was leaving. Willie mays hank better than willie. Mays better than hank. Aaron as good as mike trout. I mean babe not as good as by trump because he never had the position of those guys right but willie mays could go get a deep. I mean willie mays. We're seeing the catch over and over again. What does the vic works. Catch in the case of of mike trout. He's he's a gold dove outfield but mace that he was such a good hitter. The first ten years of his career than it wouldn't have mattered if he if he made twenty errors again. Here's here's his. From the time he was twenty three here. He was so as an all star every year in his twenties when he was twenty three second. Mvp third next year third and mvp. Next year he wanted your after that. Mvp to near up to that mvp nine. You're at that one wondering again talking. You're talking about ancient history. I'm talking about the fact that he's going to be an he might be. He might be the only the second guy ever besides. I guess there's two now right is revered the only guy ever to be unanimous rivera's remember. There's one guy that didn't vote for jeeter okay so reversion has i think he's number to anybody not voting for albert pools on the first ballot off to make the case. But if you're talking about best performance right now and don't disagree formats based business. It is a but he's not performing if if espn gives you a ten year contract that at the end of the ten years. You're probably not going to be what you are in the beginning. It'd be better. They're getting steve mason. Who is a first ballot hall of famer at the end of it if they just fired you on a wednesday and started playing. Louie louie on the happen to me. Yeah it's beneath you and it makes them look at. This is a horrible day for the angel and they tried to do it with this dump. Statement of it was a pleasure to have albert pool. It's angels uniform. Well it was a pleasure. Why did you grab him by his belt and throw him out the front door onto the lawn. Yeah you treat. I wanna throw something else out there. So one of our friends one of our mutual french okay. Last is cinco de maya last night. So a lotta people went out and partied a lot of people at fun which is great. A lot of people down some tequila or hey would you do for cinco de mayo. I have my beer tequila and a couple of tackles nice. Nice and one of our friends wrote this to me. He said i drank so much of the cranston tequila. Guy couldn't make it from my den to my bedroom paraphrasing first of all have you had the cranston miscall i have. Yeah it is ridiculous. Yes it has got so. The gulf drink of choice created by james worthy is the worthy splash which is mess gaulle or tequila. Whatever you got you got nineteen forty two skull if you know if you've got casa migos whatever you got to tequila on the rocks preferably two shots with a splash of pineapple juice like that. I made hor. Hey drink one. At the golf tournament of one. To ten rate that drink. I will say nine. It was and it is spectacular so anybody who claims they got into the skull and couldn't get back. I sympathize with them. Let me just put the. I've been there and done that so yeah the scholars go by the way. It's called dos hombres. It's aaron paul and bryan cranston. But this this particular friend and i will not name. His name is still hung over. he's still hung over. It is one o'clock so on his behalf. Do you john when you drink too much and you wake up the next day. Do you have a a way that you deal with the hangover power through is talk through. I take two advil and go. I think if you can get into your routine and get going and just say it's not going to beat me. You can make it through the day. Now you're gonna feel like crap but it can be done. I think people that use hangovers as an excuse not to work our little soft. Yeah whore. Hey what about you know you drink two beers the next day. Keep hydrating with water the rest of the day. And you're good so that's the hair of the dog treatment lindsay. What about you when you're totally ripped and wake up the next day and you feel terrible hair. The dog actually does work and scientific findings behind it because ruined hangover hangovers. Actually your body going through alcohol withdrawal like acute alcohol withdrawal so hair the dog. It will pro ill you know. It'll make the hangover. Go away for a little bit. But you're kind of prolonging the inevitable. But i always say a ton of water the water before you go to bed to the night before. That's definitely key and of really bad on healthy greasy food. That seems to help yeah. I'm curious about that though because this guy is still struggling still having a hard time not feeling his best. You say hair the dog. But i think he's passed the doc. If you've got a good hangover cure eight seven seven seven ten circling back to back to this pools thing. This is. how much disagree with you on this. I think alba approval deserved and would have gotten in automatic. Invite to the all star game this year and would have been honored because it's his last year now the angel hundred percents. The angels just crapped all over. That i mean i don't think anybody will sign him. I what i hope happens. Is that the saint. Louis cardinals signed him. He comes back and plays a couple of games and they retires. Yeah i. I don't think he plays the cardinals in first place right. I'm not sure that you want to sign him. What's come back have by the way it'll pack the stadium alber have albert pools day weekend. If you want to make an appearance in each game maybe give him one start and say goldsmith plays every day anyway give them a break give a day off to play first and then i'm retire on sunday night. I think it's gonna be one of those sign never play but maybe by the way you know what it guarantees that i think will not go into the hall of fame as nasal. He's definitely going in his a cardinal. Maybe that was going to be the case either way but now it's firmly decided. He's going in as a cart. Here's the weird thing. I'd i have to go back and look but i'm pretty sure when marino gave him the ten year deal. Yep it was really a twenty year deal with ambassadorship on the end now. Battleship ship cancel. Yeah now that's ups. So i i think we're going to court now and a bunch of ways to reach the show. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn eight seven. Seven seven ten espn. The phones are always open. No matter what we're talking about you can email the show. Venice mace at g. Mail dot com. I got a slow to emails last night. After the dodgers lost to assure you never heard the word slowed lindsay load not net contacts combination of of load in the four letter. Word that starts with us. It's just comedy you can say it on the radio. It's a slow slowed anyway emails on that you can also tweet us at venice. Mace at la ireland. Also coming up for you willie. Mays turns eighty. Who is the best ninety baseball ninety best baseball player. You've only seen you've seen with your own two eyes. That's coming up to mason. Ireland i to be a great show today. Thanks for being here. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn fo- phone. So what's up album holes cut. I've never heard. Lindsay is fired up about anything as she is about this albert pool skating cut into. This violates mates glut. This violates the golden rule. Treat others how you would like to be what front everybody's sentimentality and the reality is. The angels are in last place and there are thirteen and eighteen and they got to find a way to win and if albert pulses and the guy. That's going to help them win. Get them somebody who will who they getting. I i mean i. I don't know there must be some sort of plan. It's not like there's like some. You know earth shattering player. That's gonna come in and make all the difference between a first ballot hall of fame. You want wanna know what mason in fact you said. What team does that right. Is that your argument. Like nobody doesn't know teams. Get a side keep a guy around or sign a guy you know when they're last place because they they want nostalgia exactly what they're doing with cabrera in detroit. Hey guess what. I want to tell you something. It's twenty twenty one. And the cleveland cavaliers. Just side anderson varejao eleven. So if you want to say that that teams don't do that you're wrong. That's a perfect. No teams do it. When it is pointless end it is hopeless and it is meaningless. And that's what it is for the cavaliers. The cavaliers are hopeless meaningless. You mean they brought him. Yeah right all right. Let's go to tricia in van is hey tricia. You're on seven ten. Espn loss tricia. Let's go to greg in oxnard greg. You're on seven ten. Espn hey what's up guys. How good man. I was just calling. I just think that The cup goals a long time ago because he's categorized in my book at the same as everybody else in the steroid era because his numbers dropped just like everybody else's did when they started doing more strengthen testing the only. The only thing that that i've ever really believed in terms of of pool. It's in the story era. Greg is he. He used the same trainer as one gonzales. All those guys get dominican pro-american republicans the same guy and pools refused to denounce him. I mean apparently like the godfather down there and but but he was given gonzales all the steroids and and that was the only time albert of crossed into into that. But i wouldn't time to the steroid era. We don't have any specific evidence. But but yeah i mean. I think you're right. His career is taking off. We don't know how old he is. Obviously he's listed as forty one in the reports Earlier this year that he's considerably older or at least a few years older. It's been five years. Since he had thirty home runs. I mean he. He just hasn't been much of a player and it is. The last year of the deal is batting. One ninety eight and in weight visiting just because he didn't hit thirty home runs. He's not that good of a player even though he was still hitting twelve getting twenty. Averaging twenty seven home runs a year and like sixty something. Rbi every year leading leading up to last year before the pandemic he went twenty three. Here's homerun totals twenty three nineteen twenty-three six last year and five so far this year you throw it last year because of the pandemic though right only sixty game sees oh yeah that's true that's true. I'm saying before last year he averaged. He's got his career. You're saying twenty seven per season but don't give me the rear view mirror good numbers lindsay's giving you is with the angels. Those are his angels no rights but not in the last few years in the last few in last five years. He's batting two thirty nine combined. Let's go to Pedro and long beach seven ten. Espn high cars first time. Caller man. Thank you pay outcome. Welcome you don't treat legends like that. I'm with I went to ireland. That s alleged that he's he's up in the ranks with any other legend than any other sport At the end of the day whether or not has his numbers went down. That i mean baseball. Is bill hardest. Sports play at eight and it. Just i mean playing the way he did even. I mean he's been hurt wasn't he was angels. The last five years as low as forty seven years old. Or whatever he is he can be fifty seven. He still hits us. Ninety five on our fastball. Three hundred and ninety feet and mace. I don't know if i'm not so sure that your your constant bring up. The age thing isn't a little bit. It's not racist. Would it be cultura list. No i don't think so because y because he's from the dominican. We can't prove his age. No because there was a specific a report about it. Never seen it. The i think that what happens is mariah mlb. Alice alex albert pools has been lying about his age for years more loose and when he was asked for proof he didn't have any. It's david sampson. The gm of the marlins david sampson who used to go on with lebatardshow. And he's kind of a bomb thrower if you don't have any more than that i mean it's easy to say that these guys were born in in poor countries that didn't have great hospitals. Nobody's saying that nobody's saying that hamson is saying that he's not cultural. He saying specifically about albert pools. He's not saying about dominican players in general he saying about albert pools right it. It seems to me like an easy accusation to make because he comes from a country. That's not financially well off. Yeah i still. Don't see the i i don't see that i don't see that i just i'm i'm talk. He's talking about who holes. I'm referring to. His report. Has nothing to do with the dr or the country general. Yeah but he just wouldn't say if it was you know if pools was born in the united states. He'd never bring it up. He would if he was lying about his age right but he has no proof of that. It's just david samson throwing stuff. David sampson who i think the one former baseball executive who actually speaks truth about things because he's not trying to get back into the game everybody else's keeping track of their secrets and all that take what is hey. He's kinda hot. Take so what we're hot. Take ruben online seven. Says he's got a cure for the hangover. Excellent ruben guys. I do all right well. Hey i i wanna go ahead and uses mesa term you drink slow to pedialyte and three i bill and i guarantee you the next day. You're filling fantastic now. I'm thinking about that. Ruben is when i got my second cova shot. I got the pfizer cove shots and second one a trainer that i know reached out to me and he said here's what you do. He said drink a ton of electrolytes the day before and the day after your shot. So i drink gatorade the day of and four gatorade the day after and i had no serious issues. I think to this interesting. Because when i got my second shot i got the moderna i which is supposedly worse. Yeah this so. When i got my second shot i got high right afterwards. I had no symptoms whatsoever. When i woke up the next day. So there's there you can go gatorade you can we'd you you've got options to avoid any side effects. That's a good idea. Is definitely a thing i used to when i was a college are used to drink just a ton of if i got hammered and i don't even know how i survived college. Drink so much seriously done when you think about it. I don't even know how i lived through it. Beer bonds and keggers law school. It was like march or april. And i tried to come up with a day during the school year that i didn't drink and i couldn't come up with one. Yeah no it didn't happen didn't happen for me. We drank all the time. I know my nickname. My regular name is michelle ski and they started calling me. Mitch ski because i broke the house. Record for mo- shots. I would very proud. i believe me. It's one of my crowning achievements. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn also coming up for you. John a fisherman. Who i believe is doing it all wrong doing it all wrong and i got to get to. We gotta get to the dodgers wedding. We were again last night. I'm gonna voiding. I've been a morning and mace these to laker games. Tonight tomorrow need him. Yup need them. You know what i mean. I personally need them. Big big games tonight and tomorrow we gotta get the into that too. There's an ireland vacation at stake. It's all coming up mason islands worthy. Everybody mason ireland seven ten. Espn get back to your calls. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn so johnny. Twenty four year. Old fisherman in columbia walked himself to the hospital for emergency surgery. After one of the weirdest fishing. You'll ever hear about so. We wound up with a seven inch. Life fish stuck in his throat blocking ability. I read yes. The man was fishing for food at a nearby lake. He reeled in a seven inch fish. He quickly faded as hook again and tossed it out there. Before tossing the fishy just caught in a into a bucket or under a stringer. He immediately got another fish in the line. So in order to real the next one in he put the head of the first fish in his mouth. Okay so when the twenty four year old put the fish in his mouth. The fish wasn't having it thrashed while trying to free itself and then it got lodged in the man's throat it had to be removed by emergency surgical procedure a fishing accident. I've never heard anything like yeah. That's pretty ridiculous. The moral of that story is don't put fish in your mouth you fillet them and cooked exactly right. No put a live fishing your mouth. There's a pretty good rule to follow a. Here's sal in san diego. Hey sal you're on seven ten. Espn hi guys gone. Good solid town. Hey you're talking about pool. One thing john you mentioned maybe hitler the all star game this year last year. Yeah and spring training in spring training. He wouldn't even failed the watcher. he's he's not done yet. So and without who wants to go to an all star game in back in one ninety eight. that's kind of embarrassing itself but even further you guys were talking about how the angels did injury. Yeah i mean you know that. They didn't go to him and tell him. Look at of the player you once a week. You're going to be a pinch hitter. And he said they was that yeah. Well here's the thing. If that was true why wouldn't you just give him his outright release. Why would you designated for assignment. So we basically what they're doing is they're letting he has to go through waiver. They're putting him through waivers which nobody will claim right which is embarrassed too much money right and then it'll be a free agent by the way. I don't know that they've got an option other than that. If you're gonna cut a guy doesn't have to go through waivers. I don't think so i think isn't it you can give somebody there outright release you can just partway basically. You can part ways with them. Yeah it sounds like they're just but it also sounds like based on last night it sounds like holds wasn't happy with the way was being used anyway right. He couldn't get in there against the guy he really owned that ryan yarborough kid who he had a bunch of home runs off of and thought hit really well and he says it's the office it's meddling and all that stuff yeah and the front office has history meddling so you know who knows could handle it better. Yeah all right so what what did you did you hang in for. All the dodgers shenanigans. Live minute me. And hey were there till the very end because we were texting when it got really ugly last night right near inventing new ways to lose what the heck was cory seager thinking cory seager has been a disaster defensively just a designing. The game was pretty much over if he makes a simple throw to second base and he threw it into right field yet. Just an absolute auto on what was is it safe to call. That assured double play ball. He the dodgers have nineteen hours and thirty one games. They are just not playing good defense. And that doesn't even count. Pass balls in wild pitches and just sloppy play in general all contributing to the way. The dodgers are playing and once again i mean maybe i'm starting to come around on kenley jansen a little bit because we had a lead going to the bottom of the tenth inning. Kenley blew it. We need a lead going to the bottom of the eleventh inning. It was scared clever. Enter the beat it in beat us and it it's interesting somebody emailed last night and said we've got basically minor league talent out there and a lot of it does feel like minor league talent at this moment. I mean if you start talking about guys like garrett clever injure in edwin sina and these guys edwin run Edwin rodriguez has been just terrible edwin. Gonzales has been just terrible do you. What's next for the dodgers. Yeah angels the tigers angels. Starting tomorrow anaheim ca. I don't wanna be losing to the angels. That's embarrassing that's embarrassing. Somebody else says by the way. The dodgers went south. When i started clowning on. The padres is dodger's went on their tail. The moment venice. Mace ran his mouth on that thursday afternoon before the padres games three eleven in their last fourteen. Hashtag thank you. Mace hashtag the curse of mace. Well i always got the blame for stuff. Well hubris comes. You had a lot of hubris that day. You were very cocky and yeah. The team has gone in the toilet. You think those are unrelated. I'm generally always cocky john Yeah but not that. I think content. Act like you've already come out and said that you're scared of the clippers is a laker fan. Not scared of them. I just think it's will be the lakers toughest opponent right. But you don't. Have you disagree with that. By the way you don't pay the clippers will be the lakers toughest opponent i do. Will they be their toughest opponent in the west. No they've won eight. Nineteen of twenty three games. I think phoenix in utah. Better than the clippers you do. I do boy couldn't disagree with you. More couldn't disagree with you. More and the clippers. Don't even have everybody out there. They're sitting guys and still winning. Okay so you respect the clippers. Listen to this about what you said about the padres. I think it's a rivalry for the lesser teams. So like the padres are like come on. Let's get the dodgers we. This is our rivalry. Were anyone down south after that with south after that. You don't say that stuff about the clippers. No i hate the clippers. I'll say that. I despise them. I root against them every single game. They play. I hate the team. I hate the all the they did last year with street lights. Not spotlights here to play our way all that. Bs that they put out there last year. I hate the clippers. I just think they're the best opponent that the lakers will face this year. Yeah well they made them in the first round. If the season ended today it would be horrible. Horrible to them. Absolutely hor bring him on. That's not gimme utah. Gimme phoenix gimme. I don't want the clippers till later in the playoffs. Gimme lebron back. And we'll get rid of the clippers say lakers and five lakers and five is shays slogan. Exactly yeah i- willie. Mays turn ninety today. My dad actually got a picture. With willie mays a couple of years ago before willie mays. Before my dad died willie lasted longer than my dad. He's probably the greatest living baseball right now. Isn't he now. That hank aaron i think so. I think he's the best living baseball player. There is unless unless you want to say. It's mike trout ever saw willie. Mays play with my own two eyes. He was preemies. I play of his career when he was just basically showing up stumbling around the outfield with the new york. Mets willie mays is is an absolute legend. But i didn't see him with my own two eyes so the question is what baseball player. Who's the best baseball player you've seen with your own two eyes. There's there is right answer. it's probably trout. it is probably trout. Trout is the best player. I have seen with my own two eyes. He's the player of this generation. He's the mays of this general. You once argued with me for an entire show that yossi l. was better than mike trout. I think i was on the outside. You know you're on the weak side and you and you also said plus no one will ever see trout play because he plays for the angels in tears. I it's it's that part of it is true. That's why trot a bigger star if you put my trout on the dodgers are the yankees of the cubs. might mike. Trout would be a gigantic star right. Now he's toiling away in obscurity. But he's doing he's toiling better than anybody in the game. We by the way. Yes yo- league. I think your friend your friend one of the ucla part of one of the highlights of my career. When i hear the wild horse poker tournament and i made it all the way to the final table. It started with three hundred players. I made you remember he lost to. I don't remember who. I lost. Who i ended up finishing second in that tournament and i think i want a giant screen. Tv which then in turn gave away on our show. That's the way. I remember it. Because i need a giant screen. Tv but that was a great night. Have you ever made final tables. John at big tournament. I've won two of them. You've won two big tournament. One of the big one with sixty people that's accepting enough. It was a charity event. I had a i. I was the mark. I had a bounty on me. Nobody i kept getting cards. They got me so hammered. They just start delivering shots to the table. Trying to get me to screw up. Nice that i couldn't drive home. Ida call lisa her to get me so we're going to do at some point as things improve. We're going to do a big station. Mason and ireland poker tournament. But what i want is for just us to sit at a table. You me lindsey hor. Hey michael thompson and ramona. We'll play the game. No mike play michael dunn play poker room as i think i've played with emotion every time i are in the same tournament. We always have a contest. And i always longer than you. But we're not playing heads up okay to me the interesting Here's michael hey boys you don't play poker ds. I have no idea which made even hold a car. It's really michael. How many hands of poker did you watch. Replay on the the year. It was crazy. Mace these guys would take off from lax thirty minutes into the flight. We're going cross country to new york as four and a half five hour flight. Five forty five would play until we landed until he told me. What like twenty feet off the runway base. One time we'd played from from takeoff to landing all the way to china. That's right really. Yeah we break. Yeah you guys went. Nutsy like an eighteen hour flight and you poker for thirteen hours. We we allowed one dinner break. Where we everybody could turn around and eat dinner. Got right back to a bathroom break probably. Yeah that's amazing grace. Long play you guys. Don't do no more island. Because john black's not there. Yeah john was kind of the guy who ran hard. When i was on that that team flight i we played poker in john. Black was running the show. We lost john. We kinda funny. When john always with the with lose how would get. Yeah because because after a while those games got to be kind of lucrative and yeah but john would you wanna played like a dollar a hand right well. We played three dollars. It was the most you could bet but there was unlimited betting. So you bet. If you thought you had cards you could raise three six nine twelve fifteen. You know you've got crazy surprise. Michael that all you're traveling you know when you got into covered wagon and you wanted to another city to you. Weren't playing bura buddy. I just. I'm not a gambler mace. Because i know it's fun to win but you lose more than you win right three dollars michael but dollars it depends on who you're playing with and stuff. Hey mike what what do you think of. What the way. The angels retreating albert pool. So why don't you hold that john. Hold that we'll talk to michael about that coming up next for you. Let me tell you about my friend. Nope yeah i'll tell you about my friend jacob. I'm ronnie if you or a loved. One is injured in an accident. My friend jacob wants me to explain to you why you should see a doctor right away. Jacob knows you're busy but if you're injured in a car or work related accident it's not like having a cold calling the doctor a week later. How quickly you call the doctor. After an accident is vital to your case first of all for your own health. It's important to see a doctor to get treatment and documented injury. But if you try to set up the doctor visit through your own health insurance it could take a week or two. So that's why you need to call attorney. Jacob can set you up with the doctor. Even specialists usually within twenty four hours to make sure you are on the path to recovery and properly document in bolster your case against the insurance company so if you or somebody you know has been injured in any kind of accident. Call jacob twenty four hours a day. Eight four four twenty four jacob. That's eight four. Four twenty four jacob. Eight four four twenty four jacob. Remember the catchy jangle college called jacob dot com mason ireland. Seventeen espn. I saw michael thompson. We've retired about michael towns. Yes singing your tonight. Lakers vs clippers clippers home game. You see my out about this game. No i said what's bigger these two next. Laker games are melinda gates us divorce settlement these next laker games. Because it determines michael whether you and i get a week off our still plan your trip to the bahamas. I haven't canceled anything. Is that where. You're going the bahamas giant or know where i'm going but i haven't cancelled any bahamas. Ireland trick you out. I've been to the bahamas on a cruise in mason says he will not get on a cruise ship. I don't blame him every time high. Get a one of those things. Some kind of virus breaks out. Yeah it's like a floating feature exactly right so mike could. The angels have handled this better when when an elite player a legendary first ballot hall of famer gets this way. There's no good way to end it. Yes there is a good way to end the way to liquid. Handle kobe bryant. Kobe was on its last legs and they went out with him at one last bang. Now obviously out with poodles not an everyday player mace. But you can use them like ireland was saying in pinch hit situations you can use a mentor on the bench but a young player as you can use them in a lotta ways keep them in uniform and let them go out with and dignity this year even though we know he's not the same player anymore but keep him around in uniform. He has a personal services contract anyway with this team for the next ten years a million bucks a year. Let them start at this year and uniform. Let me ask you. Let me ask you this michael. So albert pool halls we agree is not a productive player anymore. We agree right right. He's batting one eighty seven or whatever it is he's not a good player in the field He's not a good first baseman. His general job is a pinch hitter. Yeah i'd mentor. But michael michael. In sports we see this in the nfl. All the time. You will be tolerated until you can be replaced. Obviously pool halls is replaceable. Right now and also some young prospect. We never heard of or somebody who angels believe has a big future. Yeah but that's i mean if he'd be up at the franchise now they believe he had a big future already be up. Didn't know you're right about what you're saying. If you're the run of the mill player you're going to get cut if you no longer productive but this is a legend you treat legends differently may so don't you have any respectful legends. Hey look here's here's what i'll say. Michael here strongly feel about this when john sock for a long period of time. If that happens i would. I would cut us immediately. If we are replaceable. I am totally fine with being replaced. If we suck. Yeah but you could come on as a guest host every now and then to me. Yeah and and now it syncing as the million dollars a year. I wonder if he actually will do anything. Any personal services after he's you will act as an ambassador or you know and Us up the face of the franchise in his retirement years which is good. Keep making thirty million this year. Thirty million terrible contract. John would you agree that he's an awful contract. They gave it to him. That was their mistake. But bad contract for the angels ten years of mediocrity one playoff appearance. It was not worth the two hundred and never give any these like these contracts that bryce harper and mookie betts in manny. Machado are all getting. I think it's they're all too many years. It's kind of on them the fact that they gave him this contract fact that you put all these things together the legend they're the ones who gave them the bad contract. Yeah and then you at with new going into the contract. Lateness thirties early forties. He wasn't going to be the same player. They knew that it has been reported that there was a disagreement last night about whether or not poll should be in the lineup. He wanted to be in the lineup. He claimed that the front office kept him out of the lineup. Don't you think it's possible that there was friction there in terms of pools accepting his role. Anyway what's he argument for. Not putting him in the lineup. He was for nine against that guy with two home runs. I don't know is that that did otani hit last night because he's your d. h. I think tony pitched so. He hit in the pitcher spot right. Yeah i don't. I don't i don't know the reason except he's not been very good. Well this is how you handle it like you say you have. The conversation with albert obviously no longer everyday player matter of fact. We don't even know if you want to put you in the light of anymore and you act axiom. How do you want to handle this. Do you want to just retire on your own and give and give you the right to do that. How do you want to handle this album. That's how you go to him and asks. I wanted to point this out to the angels have got a young first baseman named jared walsh shoes mannerly thirty three with six homers and twenty two. Rbi swear so. So you're not going to play albert nettles. And i know not over him. No yeah not over could use them as a pinch hitter. It'd be there manny mota. Yeah i mean. I guess if he's not a clubhouse distraction. I guess i understand. I'm not gonna feel bad for albert pools. He's all things been a great player. Michael the other question was who is the greatest player in your your old. So greatest player you have ever seen with. Your two is baseball. Well i agree with vin scully and bought a matter of fact. Today is his ninetieth birthday. You know that is of course we've been really made the best player i've ever seen arguably the greatest player ever and when people say mike charles better than him. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Even a great one himself by the way you guys know why Why is nickname was say. No why you guys never heard the story. No never heard the story. Because when he was a young player. I when i came up. He greeted everyone with say. Hey when he didn't remember people's names. Hey call say hey. It's good to have one of those in the In the chamber right. It's good to have one of those in your sports. Hey there's one particular guy in los angeles who calls everybody babe babe. Yeah babe who's right around my right. Yes so make sure. Like forty two forty three mike. Trust the greatest player. You've ever seen that. I have ever seen mike mason. Say two or forty three. Pack you for the compliment fifty fifty six days. Yeah i'm fifty six acura eight. Why why an edge. It's way more fun to act like a goofy teenager. The mike charles. Better than bonds. Better than hank. Aaron you seen hike playwright. i. Hey karen was when i was very faster. Broke the home run record when i was eight bill. I don't think i had the trout's better that griffey trust. But that's when. Ken griffey was in his prime. He's the close. Because ken griffey was elite. Defend yeah trout trotz. Pretty strong defensive way makes you pooh-poohing albert pools. He wants to gold gloves years ago. But i mean you said. He was a liability defensively. You went to gold gloves. They say he had the greatest ten year period and major league baseball history trying mason not buying so how long i mean for his first eleven seasons macy hit three. I ten season. what does it. Let's see three thirty one for four hundred eight home runs. Twelve hundred thirty. Rbi's no one ever did that over ten years off every year and three times six words. What have you done for me lately. What old so you would have if you were charged to the servicemen. That mason would cut. Mookie betts right now. I'm really frustrated with movie bats. I'll tell you what you have. Ben kareem at the end of his career for reminded. Would you have. Tim duncan bench them. Yeah no european inconsistencies. You've been a consistent. Yeah pulo errantly. Yeah i mean was what what was creams game. Like when he was in the last year now he still out hook. Okay so was he. Was he better than a one seventy eight. Yeah oh yeah definitely so. Yeah no. i wouldn't bench cream in that case if he's productive completed. If you have cut kobe's minutes. I cut his minutes. Yeah like wait out to like twenty minutes you know is a crappy season. And he was the one. Were paying right. Nobody is paying to see albert pools by the way mates albert pool. It's the only player in mlb history with three thousand hits six hundred homers and multiple world series title. I am not dispute and great of albert lord orrick disputing. Why he's on a major league roster right now you are like why he was like the ants and geico. Geico commercial expired expired. You wanna throw him out. I guess i've just got a completely different view. This cold base. You got a cold heart. What that's what you gotta be. If you're a front office you've got to be cold. You've got to be cold hearted you got to do. What's right you gotta do what it's going to take to win. Not what it's gonna take to be sentimental in scou- gic up next is fast track mason ireland seventeen espn.

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Starting 9 Episode 238 - Pujols, Means & La Russa

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Starting 9 Episode 238 - Pujols, Means & La Russa

"Starting now its gall to thirty eight. It's been a week. It's been a week in baseball. Also already there's a lot of good shit that we gotta talk about this podcast. Some sad stuff to some sad stuff wasn't exactly the happiest week is well there. There's a lot of good stuff that we to talk about as well. because that's a loaded show to load already the ebbs and flows of the season. Yeah yeah log on. Check out the starting on youtube channel. All the episodes are up there in full type in starting nine on youtube subscribe subscriber base up and full episodes plus all the other baseball content is on the starting on youtube channel. Dow's we we had a phone call this week before we get into any of the topics because obviously you gotta get the pool halls. We've got to get to john's hitter. We're going to get to the yankees and astros lot of stuff. A lot of stuff we talk about on the show but before yet there. We had a phone conversation where we basically came up with. What's going to end up being a year. Long segment the melt rush wars. Yeah so i was just sitting there and as like who is it. Is it even possible now that he's not here to unseat anyone. That's on the red sox. Mount rushmore was david ortiz. Ted williams pedro martinez call stransky. Mookie would had a chance. I think if he had stayed in taking the daughter deal so then we start talking like debating. Like the red sox. Mount rushmore on twitter and we were on the phone and it was like. Why don't we just kind of like every single episode for the next fifteen weeks. We can debate every single. Teams mount rushmore. And then after we're done with that we can make our mount. Rushmore of mount rushmore. Is yes the mount rushmore. It's going to be a beautiful. I mean 'cause it's gonna be a nice little dive into some great. And i might even have to throw a caveat in there where we have like maybe a current player that's with the organization that they stayed with. I mean that's just such a tough thing to do not have to go there now. I know. I think we should just deal in reality but i think it's gonna be great because i feel like people are going to. I don't think there's going to be a ton. Because i think what really is going to happen in. Most organizations is. The debate is really in the tier to mount rushmore. Feel like a lot of teams have their cemented for and then like there's that second tier of guys. Were you definitely have a debate. Like for the red sox there was like fifteen guys who had a case for that tier two tier one was pretty rock. Solid so yeah. I think it's going to be interesting to see what we come up with. And i don't know. I feel like we'll the doctor claw for the order in which we go for teams like i don't wanna go division by division. I think that that's that's boring prize. Yeah yeah yeah you gotta bounce around gotta bounce around but the fact that we're going to be touching on some because i think what's cool is just maybe you start to come gos- come across is. Oh i don't know that might have hall of fame. Candidacies coming up. I don't think so. Maybe he's i mean who knows. Maybe we'll see could be. We will see i'm a. I'm excited about that. So i feel like if we pan that out. I think it ends up being what september september that we would get to the mount. Rushmore of mount rush- rushmore. That's the one that's the one you're looking forward to the motherlode. Yeah that's the one we want. I'm here for that do you do you already have a. Do you have an idea of where you're going. Do you think that diving into each organizations. Mount rushmore is going to alter what you already believe. What knee jerk. I'm i'm going into this with a completely open mind. I don't i don't even want to. I don't want to look that far down the road to think about what i might do at the end of. I want to go through each team. Make my own determination. And what the mount rushmore of is for every single team and then but by the time we get completed with all the mount. Rushmore is than. That's going to be you know time to go to work. 'cause 'cause we got we have to understand that there's going to be a marriage between maybe some statistical basis but just you fall in love with guys you like him for reasons that maybe don't reflect the don't reflect in the numbers so yeah it's going to be combination of baseball love just a good old vote for a good quality baseball man jordan and back ended up with the numbers baby. Yeah anyway so morning. Would monday wednesday friday. It's on the starry night instagram. That's on all of our twitter. It's on the barstool main handle for twitter. Check that out one of the lead story. I feel like everyone's going to have to say. And that's the crazy part about this story as you can see behind me if you're if you're watching on the youtube channel it's about albert pools today. Yup it's about albert pools but the crazy part about this story. I mean i if you're listening to this podcast. Obviously you know what happened. The angels released albert pools from his ten year. Two hundred fifty three million dollar contract was he making like thirty million this year. Yeah last year. He gets released in the last year of his deal. And obviously everyone's mind goes to damn helluva career. Thanks for the memories end of the road and then we find out like a couple of hours later. Joe maddon was like you know. We just didn't have the playing time for him. He's a private guy and he still wants to be an everyday player. What what team is going to give albert pools more playing time than the angels already were because the angels were only playing him as much as he was getting playing time because of the money that he was getting paid and now if a team brings him on for league minimum which i don't. I don't even know that a team would do that at this point. What what is their incentive to give him more playing time than he was already getting with the angels. It's just not happening. No the incentive would be to have albert come in and be that in light and be the person that's able to make an impression on some of their young talent that they might feel could benefit from having him around. How is in your mind. I like honestly. I don't know because i in the comes to your mind when you say that what team that needs apple pools to be around their young guys first comes into mind. Yeah i was thinking to you but there's no word there's no there's no d. h. them. You can't do that no in l. and that's trust me. That's why all of this makes makes you doesn't make your head spin because you this and i said this on the broadcast today today being thursday when we were recording As just dropped. Another beatdown from toronto. But i said as tough semi-in fucking shit. We don't need to talk about us. Fourth fucking game. It's tough because you understand where it's where it's coming from the move. You understand do you like. I wish that he would be able to go out on his own terms and that very rarely happens for a guy and then the next step down from that is not having injury completely. Derail you right like if you go out on your own terms you've been healthy for the most part whatever throughout your career and you get to say. Hey just one. The ship done deal or aren't can't take it anymore. I just threw one hundred seven innings last year. I'm flying. I can go but i just. I've got to lay the body. Those are different than not getting an opportunity somewhere. Still feeling like you can produce but realistically in your situation. What straight up. Who's the d. h. In anaheim show shohei otani and that's as it should be. And i don't anyone is how about washing. How about wall she. This is the other thing you got another power left handed bat. That is not only capable of producing in the outfield defensively. Put him at first base. If you need to and and the roster spot jeered is what is so valuable in the big leagues. It's and you you're being told right now. Thirty million dollars a year not worth that roster spot. They'll pay that money to have somebody else. Come in and get the playing time because that's valuable. How do you get that the roster spot so there just wasn't room to get the guys that are going to get the at bats. They're at bats. Because you're ultimately spinning your wheels. And i've got some thoughts on the angels in doing what they are doing right now with albert pu holes. But i'll let you finish this up. Because i don't want to just go on a complete rant right now It just you know what it is. The business side of it. The production side of it and those two numbers just aren't adding up for the angels. That's why like i. A my sensors went off when it started to seem like the narrative was going to become like albert asking for his release. You're making thirty million a year dude. Like i don't think the narrative was our albert wanted to get released. None you can make thirty million dollars a year. And that decision's gonna come from the top because you still get a pay that guy out if you're gonna if you're going to release him so i don't know that's that's kind of where i'm at on it is. It was surprising. But then it's like it's it's not surprising. I mean the surprising part about all of it is that he made it into the tenth year of d- of the deal. Because i believe he signed the ten year deal going into his age thirty two season. He's third which in reality was probably his age. Thirty five season maybe older and he signed a ten year deal and he made it to the ten season so like if anything. We should be giving him a standing ovation for that. Well that's a that is that is. Yes the idea that you sign a thirty two year old up for a decade's worth of baseball and then find yourself at the end of the deal going. You know. I just didn't think we're going to be able to find him the at bats. Oh oh you don't say you don't 'cause because realistically there's only been one forty plus year old that has just been dropped off the face of the baseball planet that was still producing It's been a couple has a couple of forty plus baseball. Forty plus year. Old baseball players is still produced in their forties. No doubt within just dropped off the planet like not. I mean not even a sniff of action. Nothing who are you referring to how old was buried. When he got dropped he was forty two forty. No no yeah he was. I think he was in his forties. Because i think he was still like. He was still hitting homers at a rapid pace when he was like forty barriers last season. I wanna say his age forty two season. Yeah so berry berry. Only played fourteen games in two thousand and five which was his age forty season and then when he was forty one and forty two he still had a nine ninety nine and a ten forty five p. s. seasons. Yeah but i mean come on. Yeah you can't you can't sign a thirty two year old up for a decade of baseball and then at the end of it go. Yeah we just didn't see not being able to get him the at bat like everybody. Everybody kind of sees that coming. That's why to your point if he's able to squeeze out like hey you got two and a half weeks. Maybe a month or so of juice. Out of the first month of the tenth year for albert pools. So but let me say this about the angels man like this. I don't want it to rub me the wrong way. But when i look at the history of how things have gone with this organization and how they've handled situations with players whether that be regarding off the field stuff in the past and how they've handled the human being aside from what's happened on the baseball field like you're you're still sour about josh hamilton. Which i'm with you on the handling of that was not like that's something that's still is rubbing you the wrong way even today. Well not only that but then you think about everything that had i mean man like i like the skaggs stuff like yeah like you got that and now this. And here's here's my point is a part of me has to has to believe to an extent that when you signed a guy up that's an albert pool position historically in his career what you're signing up is the milestones because you're gonna print that merchandise take a look at that site 'age behind you jeered at the end of it. There's an angels uniform. There's a halo there and oh man I tried to find the quote from already marino. That i saw earlier today. That honestly got me thinking about this and it was just like a man. Is that what it was about really is that what is it about it and i think the court is this. The angels organization proudly signed albert pujols holes in two thousand eleven and are honored that he has worn in angels jersey for nearly half of his hall of fame career and like this is in throwing any shade albert at all the machine. The hofer like not at all. But do you know what categories our pools lead baseball in during his time as anaheim angel or angel into place. And that's it is it really and that's it. Well i think he has like the major league record for grounded into dope correct and he will yes. Yes does the all time. But the point that i'm making that is if you look at that quote it's like so so you're happy that he gets to now have to make the w- what's he going into the hall of fame last year. I don't like that's what i was going to ask you is. You don't have to ask me. Here's my answer no i. That's what i was going to ask you is can you name. Besides besides i don't even know if you could name this name. One memorable moment that he had with the angels. It's really tough. Like he hit a grand slam for his six hundred. Th career home run like in my mind. That's the only memorable moment that he had with the angels. We'll because yeah like that was is six hundred homer we're put about in the in the three thousand hit club I don't know i know. He's like thirty two hundred so if he surpassed somebody with that hit as well but like that's the point right so when he like if he's taking a picture all that all those pictures all those memorabilia items and everything that's that's getting sold. Six hundred is the commemorative on the anniversary of bundled on the wall. That's all getting done in. Halos uni and that's all halos money getting cashed so back to the point of signing him up for this part of me has to understand that the business aspect of signing a guy. Who's going to be hitting these milestones from a business. Perspective is going to have you cash out now it would be cashing out a heck of a lot differently if he would have had anywhere close to the kind of production that he had during his first ten years. But let's be real man. Are you seriously asking for a nother. Decades worth of a historical decades run of production. Get it no no. But i i honestly. I think that the pools contract will be the last of its kind like y y miguel cabrera like miguel. Cabrera is on an extension. I'm talking like free agency like you're never. I don't think you're ever going to see something like that ever again. Not like a thirty two year old. No no no ten years ten years for dude. That was literally thirty. Five about unless you are unless you were. Just a stud athena on that that talent just can't be suppressed. You're not getting to the big leagues until a certain point in time. And then if you don't produce in a certain window they start to age you out right. And they're going to be done with you so those windows of opportunity or closing every day. It feels like it's getting smaller and smaller that window to to get that big one and again. You're getting that big one if you are the elite of the elite talent. Yeah and he is he. He is one of the greatest hitters. Who ever lived not just greatest right handed hitters not just greatest of this generation. He is one of the greatest hitters. Who ever lived period and we got to. We got to see we got to see it. All we got to live through all that came up in two thousand one rookie of the year Won a batting title a couple of years later and the one thing that i pointed out in the blog was that he won three. Mvp's during a time when berry fucking bonds was still doing his thing in his prime so too in the to play in the same league as berry time when barry was collecting his seven. Mvp's that that makes it even more special. i think But yeah i mean. I just i enjoyed the hell out of it. Obviously the the two thousand and five home run in houston brad. Lidge will always be my favorite home. Run of all time. Heads-up bobby dynamite. Yeah like that. That was it's still is my favorite homerun of all time to world series. Titles like the guy. The guy checked every box. He's got three thousand hits people to defense either one one goal to know. He's got to go to. Yeah and he's got to think you know like silver sluggers. Yeah i mean. The guy is an absolute legend. I just. I don't know. I don't know how this ends because i'm not sure there is a team out there. That's going to be like we being definitely guarantee you more playing time than what the angels were giving you. I don't think that that team exists in today's world. I don't care if it is for league minimum. It's mortars the roster spot like talking about the value of a major league roster spot right now cannot be understated so if there is a contending team out there. I don't think that you're going to give albert pools at this point in his career a roster spot plus the guarantee that he's going to play as much or more than what he was playing anaheim so i hope it is of just one of those things where he takes a few days and kinda realizes that or he kind of is talking to his and he's fielding phone calls and they're just like yeah. There's there's not a team that's gonna that's gonna play everyday albert. I'm sorry but the cardinals are interested in signing you for one day and you can go back put on the saint louis uniform one more time and say goodbye like that. He deserves that much. Like that's what i was saying before about. How well that would be. That would be the ultimate like that would be the ultimate move right at the ultimate asian if there's one organization that would kind of bend the rules and be like. Yeah you know what like. We are contending for a championship. This year and every single game counts like we might lose this division by one game. But we're willing to sign albert for one day so that he can retire on his terms and not just like it would be a shame if the last of our pool was just a surprise release and then no other team wanted to sign him. So i do hope that he does get at least though the one day contract in saint louis and then he can. He can retire like that so i mean obviously if that happens then that should answer everybody's question if even was one about who he goes into the hall as right. I don't think there's there's zero percent chance he goes with the angels so back to my question about like like the angels. How do you feel about that as a fan base. I don't think they fucking care. I don't think angel not about the whole thought about the whole specifically like you went out and you got this dude ten years. Oh they feel robbed. And lastly robbed. Yeah which sucks because imagine imagine being mad at albert fucking guy you know he. He did so much for the game and he had such a great career. But if you're an angels fan especially a young angels fan you probably fucking can't stand our polls imagine imagine being like a seventeen year old angel fan and you're just like this pool sky fucking sucks. I hate them. Get off my team like. I'm sure that there are fans like that. That exists in. It's insane to me. But yeah i mean there's zero percent chance he goes in with the angels and it just i don't know it is i mean you can't you can't blame the guy like you get like that many years and that that amount of dollars thrown at you of course you're gonna say yes. What are you going to do. we'll pass. We'll take significantly less to go here. Stay here. I mean you take the money it's businessman he said don't know that we're going to see another contract like that because it was one of the first of its kind. It's just the like yeah. Noman decades worth of baseball. You're not gonna see that. I mean what we see it with like younger guys. Sure of my point was. I was going to their age. This is different. Yeah no doubt. Those dice are getting rolled early. You're getting like you know that there's different. Here's another question. Do you think there's different revenue streams that that decision today for younger players then were available even then for albert ten years ago like when you think about all the off the field opportunities that there are and i'm not talking about just the normal like product type endorsements company type endorsement stuff like that but the opportunity to be able to utilize and leverage individuals. Individual brand has an organization. Yeah mean i think. I think albert is is one of those guys i mean. Look at the on v. network. It's like the no free ads but johnny bench's still doing fucking ads. Like everybody else will be as big now as he. He's a legend forever. So albert pools is going to have plenty of money making opportunities post playing career. I i think we talk about fernando tatis contract and the mitro contract same fucking team. The mookie betts contract. It's like those. Those contracts are still going to happen like when you get a player. Like manny machado earn bryce harper. And they they get into their free age generational talents that reach free agency before the age of thirty. Yeah those guys are going to get their money. Those guys are going to get there. Ten twelve whatever the fuck years or thirty eight hatton no. Yeah you're on the wrong side of thirty. You're not gonna get those monster contracts anymore. And i hate to say it but i think teams will point to our pools to deny players in the future. Those types of contracts miguel cabrera another guy. And i think this is fucking insane by the way because i i made the joke about you know. Miguel cabrera seeing that pool. Scott released today like what his reaction must be seeing that news because he i think he's hitting isn't he hitting below one hundred now I would. I think he might be. I think he might be. Has he hit her. Has he hit a home run since opening day. I doubt it. I don't even think he's fucking hit or whatever that was was that open that was opening day but he did you know that he still has like fucking four years. I was gonna say. I thought it was three years east. Signed through twenty twenty-five it's fucking. Hey just just throw them in the role. Let him blida pepper. It the only problem is he's not pepper in it he's not doing what's anything are you. Look at sure i i do. Think he's hitting below. Actually i look at the box score from today. How man so ninety eight miguel cabrera gala cabrera is hitting below one hundred. Who else is hitting ninety eight. Danny janssen you know who that is catcher for the blue jays who just dropped diesel today. By the way that he gave ram shutout janssen. The dude has a ninety nine point. Two percent block rate ninety nine point two percent walk rate for him. You know how aroused that gets me. I mean that made you could basically turn around on the mound and throw the ball in the dirt at the shortstop. And danny janssen is going to block that. That's how good this dude is. And it was an honor to watch him. Go to work behind the dish. It really was like as could've used danny janssen. Tell me. I think john means us. Danny janssen yeah Heartbreaker is it though. I mean i feel. I feel like it's it down because everyone it just like with galarraga people are like. Yeah you know it was all wrong is different. Those are different. Like i know. I know it's different. It's yes it's different but people will refer back to them as like a young but this happened. It wasn't perfect game but this happen. John means threw a no hitter. But this happened. He faced the minimum he. The guy that reached base struck out. Just a caveat to the game attack. I'm just saying that people when people talk about the job means no here they'll also bring that up like a. Yeah but it should have been a perfect game because the one guy that reached he actually struck out. And that's why. I say it's the same but different because the thing is oh man all they just they just needed the correct call to be made. They just needed cameras in. What was it. Two thousand nine was it the same years you know ted was damn if only we had fucking video cameras back in two thousand and ten that would have been that would have been huge but honestly what good. We're good. we're good. Does that do us. What good does that do us. We don't need us so we don't need to go down that road the the replay wrote about whether or not cameras help us. I mean we've got cameras now. We're still talking about how they don't help us. I'm not saying that would have been a clear and decisive overturn. Which it would've it would've been. Yeah he got a corvette he did get a corvette a sweet ride. That's so that would have been such a weird and perfect game to just to have the video replay and then wait for and then celebrated awkward not awkward. But it's fucking ruins at anyway. Think about the umpire's oil like if you're the umpire who's gonna make that call. That's going to be overturning. It like if you can feel the magnitude of the moment like you had the opportunity to be the greatest showman on earth. What you could just all eyeballs on you like show. Kick it into gear. Because you're about to make the biggest call of this life and like they're all the camera shots the photos hanging in the loop this call right here. I'll just pointing. Maybe he even just like he's got the headphones on and he just throws the headphones off and just everybody loses their shit there. We blew it. We blew it as a as a as a society because if we just figured out a way to get the technology in two thousand ten to facilitate and it's a replay but it is what it is anyways. John means though. John was fucking stud. Yeah oh one. Back on the podcast. Let's do it. I can do it. Let's do it. I've been I i was talking to rt about this guy post this morning. What's that did you see what his wife posted this morning. What about like something about like. It was like half inspirational half just like he was just like walking walking outside. And it's like here. Here's the most hung over person on planet earth. that's awesome. that's phenomenal. No but i was talking to already t about it and he just like having. I watched him just slice and dice. The as up twice in a row like happened to the red sox to a support group. My god in support group. Well it was. It was abusive. It really was. And it's because like i felt bad watching it and i feel bad watching him pitch against other people because you i know what those guys that are swinging and missing and flailing at shit feel like because i've heard guys come back to the dugout that are just motherfucking. Guy on the mountain like other fokker revisit. Throw a fastball. You put oh. He's what fastballs. Don't sleep on. John me throwing fastballs. But he's throwing changes to and he's tying people in knots. It is a is a clinic on the art of pitching to watch. John means go to work would seriously be like watching picasso paint the chapel. If if that's who painted the chapel is the chapel michelangelo asked me is. I don't know which ninja turtle anyway. It was fucking special to watch. Let me let me throw some numbers at you for this no hitter. He faced twenty seven. Batters you wanna know how many first-pitch strikes he through. I want to say it was twenty four higher twenty six. Yes yeah ninety. Six percent i strike rate. That's getting done. That's the best pitcher in baseball. That's the best pitcher in baseball is strike one. He threw sixty fastballs. Thirty seven of those for strikes eight swing and misses on that pitch and the liar. The bastard of the evening the change piece feature that thirty five times twenty h strikes with the change up twenty four swings out of the twenty eight strikes fifteen. Those were swing. And mrs just flailing at air. Nothingness punched out swinging to window shopping. He was ahead the the minute he opened his eyes. The mirrors is a one. Yeah he woke up in. The mariners woke up. Oh one they got into the boss. A the fucking scoreboard is wrong. No it's not but we know how this plays out. It was dominant. And like i said it's not eighty nine ninety just kind of feel in his way through. No here's ninety four in the zone inside ramming it down your neck middle spindle bender when he needs to maybe the third time around because he feels bad he knows you have a family. And he's like i did. I just did that to twice before a pitch. Probably back to back these poor souls. It's a fucking treat it is. I made sure. I turn it on and told my family. It's john means day every day. You bet your sweet us. It's the guy. I know you guys. Are you guys getting ready to watch the bruins. But we're actually. We're putting john means on today. So you fire up that fucking network. And that's that's what we're watching the dinner table and i hope as soon as he threw his last pitch recorded that lasted because the soft liner. I was on instagram. I was on g live with Rt watching he. Here's a little bit ahead of me and to watch him. Celebrate it honestly. It kind of reminded me of watching you lose your shit in eighteen and like it was just. There's something about watching your homie like enjoy history. It just hits a little different. Like i said yeah buchan. Tear up man like it was great. It was bucket awesome. We have that video. No because i didn't save it. Jared fucker about to like make some shit up about how like because i wanted to be special and like no no no no fuck treasury but no yeah completely blew it and he hit me up right after it was like. Hey man you think. That video archives i was like You know what dude. It is not not fully responsible for that. I apologize but he recovered the video. Because i think he was recording. Maybe on his into also exists. Yeah yeah it exists. He he had. I posted on twitter. Reposted it he posted on instagram. I gotta go check that out then. I haven't seen it. But he i mean he was ready for it because he had the beers rolling win in pulled them out cracked together to started hammering beers and then he keeps he wore half of a and i was like you need to be pounding nine of those for nine off. It was great. It was great but it really was like on on a serious note. If you want to watch somebody pitch the baseball. Yeah sean means is a pitcher. He's not just chuck and duck and he's not just hoping out there. Now got a fucking game plan. It was it was a lot of fun to watch. It was a lot of fun to watch he's he's probably one of my favorite guys to watch from a starting pitching perspective in the american league. Right now. everything about his is yeah. There's definitely like you know. I'm not trying to not trying to take away the significance of other individuals. No hitters that. We've seen over the past few years but there are definitely guys that throw no hitters over the course of a season and they. They're not exactly just dominating every time. But john means he like he has no hit stuff every time out. But he's got i'm gonna shove it up your ass stuff pretty much every time out. He's got that mentality and it doesn't matter if you don't have the stuff that day if you've got that mentality if you take that fuck you with you out to the mound in your back pocket each and every day that fuck. You doesn't know that you don't have your best stuff okay. You might know that. Have to address that to a certain extent. But that's when you pull out that f you from the back pocket and throw it on that baseball and let it eat and that's how you survive in the big leagues when you don't have your best stuff and even if you have below average stuff you have the belief you have a game plan. Those are things that guys who are really good that throw puck and hard. Don't have to do as much of and that's not a knock on them. That's a blessing and those are great guys to watch throw baseball. It's fun it's a hundred miles an hour good like it's never been a worse time to be a hitter straight up because you've got guys like john who are considered on the lower end of the velocity spectrum featuring ninety four from the left sight ninety five if he needs to go get it. Is he a free after this year. No he's there for a while I've been telling each and every day like like dude. Every day he pitches for you is just a day that you have to know he's breaking up with you he's kind of slowly but surely like maybe it's going to be a you know he starts shortening the texts and that it's one word responses and minutes left on red for a couple of days and then next thing you know just going out with i'm going out with the girls tonight and then they don't come home until four bark was three hours ago or you've been going over video bet you were. Oh yeah it's tough. It's tough because i think a city like baltimore deserves a dude. Like who has grinded. Who has battled we talk about this. 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Must be twenty one and over to enter our the yankees back. I told you what was going to happen. Didn't he said the same fucking thing. I didn't think they were gonna suck all year. Everyone that i was. I'm going to enjoy this little funk that they're now because obviously it's not gonna last they're gonna hit. This lineup was always gonna hit like the main question was is the rotation be anything and i'm still not impressed by and other their team. Era the best the american league by like a lot of that has to do with their bullpen. Not that great. I maintain that it's still not that great kluber had good numbers but faced. He's improved his numbers against dog. Shit lineups that. I know that sounds awful for me to say because one of the dog shit. Lineups that i'm talking about. Is the detroit tigers. Who coming into this three-game series with the red sox did have the worst offense in baseball but did not look like in. That series against the red sox. We don't. we're not talking about the red sox here. I'm just saying just being accountable. That are the yankees back. Yeah the yankees back. So i just wanna say this. John carlos stanton's back yankees are back. It's not only stanton's not putting them on their back right now. Anyways he is but he's not he is but he's not he is he's not the guy liked it. It's not about putting them on his back. Your there's there's different levels to that so if he's changes the vibe when you get a guy like absolutely on fire now changed fucking seven hundred over the last week it changes how you eventually it changes how you attack the dude ahead of him and that obviously is to impact how you attack him which is going to impact the the the about after him so it absolutely matters when you get a guy like him. It's not your fucking eight whole that starting to string knocks together for a few days. That's not what's happening here. You've got one of these beasts that's healthy and doing what. Mvp caliber beasts. Do and how. Things start to trickle down. Giancarlo stanton is homered in three straight games. This is again. We're according on. Thursday standards were is homered and three games eight times in his last seventeen games and fifteen times in his last thirty four games dating back to the first wildcard game last october. So fifteen homers in thirty four games is a seventy one home run pace over one hundred sixty two game season so did you did you did you Did you see what stands said about like the astros cheating scandal right when it came out. No he said something to the effect of. I think i think the number eighty he said if i knew what pitches were coming in. Two thousand seventeen had eighty homers. I believe it. I believe it. I you saw look at all the talk about tattoos peaking and whatnot like we all can understand he. He might have known what side of the plate. The pitch was going. And that gives you. That gives you an idea enough. You give these dudes as much shit as i talk on bigly kidder's because i know how good these dudes are and i know that they have the ability to to turn around in a heartbeat. There's just there's no other hand. I like on the planet. There's not everybody else with any where close to the hand eye of these dudes the standing still moving the daily moving two hundred miles an hour twenty four inches of so and the other thing too about the yankees. I mean fuck fuck him as a human being but a chapman has been a nightmare this year like it. He's basically stroud every fucking batter that he's face they i don't know what the percentage is. But if i looked it up right now like batters faced two strikeouts it would probably be north of ninety three percent in that neighborhood. Like batters faced percents. Give it a run yet this year and i don't think so i. Have you surprised if you give a fucking hit the added this. He added this fucking a change. You know a split will the split. The yeah. he's So i think i. I don't know what this is obviously is an updated from today. But yeah it's gotta be what twelve innings. Twenty six strikeouts. I don't know what he did today. Did he pitch today. Yeah no so. He wouldn't have right because they lost. Okay so eleven innings. Twenty six strikeouts stupid. Yeah he's faced thirty eighth inning. Yeah that his his strikeouts per nine is twenty one point three. Yeah that's i mean it's honestly fucking crazy. That is just absolutely funny. What is his twenty six. No look up his six out of thirty three so yeah he he fifth look at his. His fifth is negative. Yeah that's what i was thinking. It's negative zero point. Eight one like he's putting money in the bank in the fifth department. Also the he's recorded. He's recorded thirty three outs in twenty six of them have been strikeout. So that means that he's what does that seventy seventy nine percent recorded this year. Have been strikeout. Seventy-nine absolutely disgusting yeah. I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair to to be able to be that good is like thunder to. It's just hey man it's dunkin one one like his velocities going back up again. He's he's gotta be bigger than anybody drafted like how many how many how many non lineman is our oldest chapman bigger than that were drafted to the nfl. Who how like how busy. He's six. Four six five yeah. He's he's a big motherfucker and he's definitely something that rights easily to forty on see. I don't know what they're billing them at. But it's probably bullshit. Yeah six four to eighteen. He's like fucking he's gotta be like two fifty five he is not to fly eighteen. He's not now like the pictures of him. During quarantine play playing cards with like a shirtless. He's got the. He's got the sleeveless shirt on and his are bigger than most guys quads. That dude. I don't know what gas he's on but i mean it's he is not a small individual then it's a million miles an hour. Yeah it's insane. It's insane but the yankees are also getting void back soon yet. His rehab start on wednesday. Yeah he's got two games. He said two games on rehab. And he's been i think he's had you sit. What a couple of homes i mean. If you if you homered. I didn't see. I thought he like donald walk the other night. Oh what do i see. Maybe i saw the graphic wrong. I saw these as being. Dj the the yankees are back. I like if you're a yankee fan. That wanted aaron boone fired. You should probably leave like if you're a person who fired games into the season we you don't you. Don't get to celebrate this team success right now that you need to fuck and take a long hard look in the mirror and think. Why am i the way that i am. You're calling for the any like well. I don't wanna say any manager two weeks into the season but you're going to be really hard pressed to find a manager two weeks into the season that has done or not done so much that you just can't ride with them anymore. You're like no no no can't do it like like i said what's what's boone's what's puts. Era during during their rough stretch. What was his batting average during that rough stretch. Yeah did he make any decisions like did he do something i forget what the fuck and rules are are not even know what the rules were to begin with either. Did he do something like that. Because offense i guess talk about managers. They they should be winning. You ballgames not many. They definitely shouldn't be losing ballgames meaning. Their manipulation handling of the bullpen should be based on what the rules of parameters are now. It's a little easier to match up. You've got to run boy out there for three as it is. So you pick your spot too touchdown and let them run. And you're planning out mapping out successes and failures beyond that but like to have to manage the bullpen. Those are things that that's that's that's it that's it but a lot of the other decisions are coming from the top. Why certain guys are playing why. They're playing where they are playing right. A lot of those decisions are i. Don't wanna see being forced on managers but the manager doesn't have as much control as much say over those decisions as maybe some had in the past and that goes for everybody all right so the yankees are back They did lose that last game of the series to the astros. I it was. I mean i thought. I thought it was really cool. Actually when bregman was getting the shit booth out of him in the first game and then he just fucking rock toward the fog. Bullpens out there in left field. That was great. Well and how about the v. homer. Because i did. I did tell the yankee fans that you felt like the astros in and just showed up their ass didn't have to shoot out of yankees when the series yankees series but the astros get the last laugh. They get the win there in algebra the. Fuck your birthday chant. Boom homer beat it. They chanted fuck your birthday. Yeah book your birthday funny. Chew on this three-run jack. I saw video of an astros fan. They were filming. Hits the ball and it's sailing and it goes over the fence and then the dudin astros jersey and he's like faulk to well. We're not doing that anymore. The yankee fans were were not lease but they take the series and stand stays hot three games with homer and i mean you know you heard the number stands fucking in the shut up. What a jew. Aaron judge struck out and six straight plate appearances. Did they boo him like they did. Now he's the golden boy they would never have to. I can't recall. Aaron judge ever getting food. No anyways can needing to get booed how how concerned are with daughters. What are they like. Four and twelve not concerned. They've just got guys aren't hitting right now. They've got a few guys. That aren't hitting right now. And that's what he's got injuries. They've guys that aren't producing multiple. That's just that's baseball. That's what slumps are like slumps the anatomy of a slump. It could be one guy that's been hot and carrying her team. It starts to cool off and now he's just kind of cooled off and come down to earth and everybody else. I see that they're not producing as well. There could also be a group of people that are hot that come back down to earth at the same time things start to fizzle out or maybe collectively guys. Just start to suck at the same time and that can be a part of the slump on top of some injuries. So now you've got guys that you might have to play a little more every day. Maybe in spots. You're trying to piece this thing together. Dave roberts has a lot of utilities utilitarian players that he can move around but you still have to think about getting production from your stars and if that's not going down you blaming mookie betts for this. I'm not blaming anybody. It's a collective effort well. He's a lack of production right. I mean he's the best player on the team. He's the best player on the dallas player on the team. He is the best player on the team. He's one of the best players in baseball. So would you say it's mostly his fault then. No i wouldn't say that you wouldn't you wouldn't so it's your blaming the stars but then it's not the biggest stars fall i wouldn't i wouldn't the buck star with him. What do you want him to do. Everything like what are you what. What do you want a monkey bets. You can do so much. I mean it'd be nice if he did anything so. The dodgers started off their season. Thirteen and too hot very sense. Then guess what their record is dallas. I believe they've lost like what like thirteen over the last seventeen or thirty plus eighteen. No thirteen out of the last seventeen. They're four and thirteen they're hitting what to. Oh as a team. York's two oh eight to eight with a sixty five s. Not only the only the tigers have had a worse record all of baseball than the dodgers over. The last seventeen games in the tigers are the fucking absolute worst team in baseball. They are bad. Got walked off twice by the cubs. Rizzo that was quite the comeback. You see you see jock. That sac fly. Pippen the sack. Ya not great. He didn't even wanna high five anybody coming into the dugout. No but i mean you know it was funny and you want to stick it to your team and sure the guy. You should've kept me bitch. You still tied it as fine. Nothing wrong with that. you know. it's not a loss. it's not an l. Say nobody. I mean it's it's an out but productive game productive out can't get more productive anti game maybe winning it would have been. I guess would have been a little more productive. But i'm not concerned about the dodgers. I'm not concerned about the dodgers. Because they are playing baseball right now. They're not hitting but and you. You did lose. Dustin may but it's still got clayton kershaw who who got fucked up in what was a day game. It was the first game series. Sort of a screw. Yeah yeah that was bad. I mean shit happens. It's not a sign of things to come. You just had a little bit of a sudden he's gonna keep it in the dodgers fine still win the division you pitch for thirty six years in the big leagues like years right now. And it's allies to help the darker. Yeah it's going to happen. Who gives a fuck dodger. Fans roller clayton. Kershaw is a world champion is he is in. He deserves to hear that on a regular basis. But let me just say this you lose. Dustin may imagine imagine losing dust and may who is absolutely electric ninety eight mile an hour two seamers and blowing one hundred whenever he wants to. You lose that guy. You still have clayton kershaw walker. Bueller woody est trevor. Bauer julio arrhenius. And i guess people got mad that i mentioned that they still have david price. Do wash to poke. Can you mentioned him in the same sentence because he has a fucking cy young. That's why i mentioned him in the same sense and you still have tony gone so i mean there's no team on earth like if if this were if you were the titanic and hitting the iceberg losing dust and may you still got all these watertight compartments. They're gonna keep you right the fuck blowing full steam ahead. You're good you're good. You can hit the iceberg. Your straight up fine other teams. Lose a guy with that type of talent. They're going down. Well let's see what else is gonna save. Justin may is on any other team and may incur that loss at the different bogging huge huge. But to have this embarrassment of riches this is why you do it. This is why you know when everyone was like. Oh jesus they'd they signed. Trevor bauer. like what are you need him for because shit happens and shit is happening. So they're prepared for it. It's it's smart if you have the money to do it. And that's why these build the you've got the winning culture that you want to keep going just won the world series. How many teams won the world series. And then they just take the offseason off. Fuck it you know. What dodgers the dodgers won the fucking world series and then made trevor but they made trevor bauer the highest paid player in on a single season salary in baseball history. How many teams not even saying that the following off that you have to make a single player the highest paid player ever but how many teams would love to see okay. We won the world series. Now let's be super aggressive again like let's run it back not just like with the same group. Let's breathe new life into it and that's why you do shit like that what i wanted to see happen during this time was trevor bauer. Take the ball every fourth day. Who i mean. He did say he wanted to do that. And that's where like man. yo can we get. can we get the representation. Can we get the agent to start. Start whittling those things in like. Hey should the men start taking the ball every fourth day. Can we talk incentives on doing so but at the same time it's like record like a portion of of that return should that be something that gets negotiated and later. I just want that on the record. If you're the team though do you incentivize less rest time like i know that bore. He takes his measurements every single day. There's there's a book she wants back and forth there. Yeah yeah yeah because if you're the dodgers it's like all right yeah that'd be cool. I guess if if the defending hitting basically on the shelf life of your investment yeah but you're also putting some wear and tear on the arm that you just you're dropping forty mil on. That's what i literally would. I just said what did you say. You didn't word it like that. What did you say. No i said you are. You are fast forwarding. The shelf life of your investment. The i took i took that. as like. you're you're you're you're using him more will they would be. Yeah which is not. I mean it depends on the shelf life of the investment that right but in perspective if you're bauer that's a good thing. If you're the team you might argue. That's a bad thing. roy. Which is why i said there would be a bunch of insurance going back and forth like bauer say an incentivize. This and the team would be saying. I don't know if we can hear some insurance in place if you do. We'd be wanting to recoup x y and z and bowers going to say well we only be willing to put x y and z up in an effort to make four star effort to start on fifty four. I it would just be so convoluted. It wouldn't happen. And that was why i said i don't think anybody's looking to fast forward. The shelf life of their investment saul conversations. Just got me thinking about nuts. I wanna snack hard right now. Yeah suggestions did you get the bag that i sent you have many bags. 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I was in awe of him but one hundred green is dropping and blowing a hundred as a seventeen year old. It's just stupid stupid talent. So what was the one. Oh two one oh to one o. Two's but do blah starter starter as exciting stuff hundred and two and then wander franko. I want to say over his last over the last two games. He's hit for the cycle. Yes now the mammo. Yeah not not. I can't cycle and back to back. Games games combining for the cycle. He's going to be impromptu. I can't wait to see him. Your wander wonder. Yeah his first full season dude. Three twenty seven thousand nine hundred forty seven slash line forty. Three extra base hits that. I pick him for the american league the year this year. I don't know. I don't think so. You don't think i pick them. I don't think you picked him. You may have. I don't think you did though what doctor claw man most is of tried different ways to last longer. Thinking about baseball doesn't always work. 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Brewers are still alabama deep. Because i got him. So he goes deep brandon woodruff adding struck out. Eleven or twelve. guys brewers. offense did nothing form. The brewers offense has been has been dragging asks. They need him. Some yellow. gabi zack wheeler. Cg showpiece so shout ought to ought to look at all to fire off a tweet. Yeah jacob degrom could become back on sunday though. I sure as hell hope so. I don't need i come on. Don't do that to me to do that to me. And i don't want to think about this and what sucks about this is it is a. It's a it's. I really want to see the word a setback that could linger if not paid attention to okay and i really hope and i want to believe that look. He's a competitor. But he's smart. He knows what's up like you're not going to put himself in a compromising situation. I'd like to think that. And i'd like to think that the mets would also not put the greatest pitcher on planet earth in a compromising situation so with all that being said. Hopefully the scratch. Was you know precautionary to a degree. They knew they had to make the decision. But he's not going to be trying to rush back through anything he identified. What was going on. You talked about his mechanics being a little off here all even me look for the quality the quote i noticed my mechanics. Roth looked at some of the video. Got some of the numbers and my arm was down a little bit flying open. So that's obviously going to put some stress on my arm so just an aside. That's the place that technology has in the game as well being able to back. And look at those things and correlate of feeling and then getting data feedback and having that answer some of the questions you might have just think about it folks. This is how the game's greatest pitcher right now has gone back in assessed. What was going wrong. Why he's feeling what he's feeling and he doesn't have to just wake up the next day and go in the room ago. You don't fuck it back just right here. This we'll put some tussin on it and call today. No that's not so just insight. That's another reason why you're wanting to use technology. I think nick pivoted. This did what i think. Nick pavetti fucked up. Jacob degrom bad off. Nick had the i believe the longest bad of the season against jacob. Degrom this season. What how many pitches was eight something like that. He battled like. I'm not even joking. Like nikola nick. Pavetti had the best bad. Against jacob degrom this season well he was pumped about just fallon should off. Yeah as you should be statistically. I think how the loss of the season yeah. Yeah well. yeah it'd be just better. How many pitches just swing a little bit. Personality is back on the injured list. Which sucks the I feel bad. I mean that's gotta be so fucking frustrating to have your back spasms and you're sitting on the sidelines while the team is playing well and then they but they still need a and there's so many elements to that where you want to justify your contract and it's early on in the contract and you know you're sitting there and you you think you feel better than you get back out there and then it's just right back to the fucking beginning process of recovering and not having back spasms so that that sucks for for a guy that i know is super competitive. Quote the quote from council kind of gives you a good idea. And then yeli gives you some insight to but this is craig counsel and this was on may fourth. When he had this quote last night. He told us that he's not going to be able to do this on a daily basis. And so we need to stop incompletely resolve this at this point. We don't have an answer and that that is just not what you want to hear not at all and then yellowy followed up with. I wasn't where i needed to be yesterday again. This coming out on may fourth. I was able to make it through the game but being able to stack games on top of each other. Just wasn't there pretty much why we're back to being where we are so you do you feel for a do because you know what kind of competitor is like you said you know what he means it lineup but as of right now you're thinking about like it's you don't want to be selfish but think about my career like it's not about putting games together now it's about my career. Can i get myself healthy to a point. Where continuing to do this. Is it going to create massive permanent damage later. You hate to even have those conversations but when you're talking about a guys back like dude is going to be able to bend over and pick his kids up that's the kinda shit you think about and you hate that you go there mentally but that's exactly where you go when stuff like this comes up and you do you have to take that step back and say look while the season means a ton to me right now. What means more to me is my career and being able to perform over the long haul So we just obviously everybody knows how we feel about. We wish him nothing but the best so be gets this shit right man. He'll be back. Oh for sure. He'll be back it'll be just a matter time to talk Joey votto he'll probably be out for like a month. He broke his god damned thumb where it. Yeah joey votto still bangs though. Oh no doubt. And that's the first time this dude has been clipped since win. Where is it like two thousand fucking hit since like fifteen or something that it's been a minute. I don't know that's probably wrong. Maybe that seems like a long time. I can actually tell you right now. Right told me. I'll tell you right fucking now you wanna know. Now tell me right now. I can tell you i can tell you. His entire to and from injured list history. You told me when your computer loads and told me. I mean it is my internet's fucking bertel. We've auto a he. He did all. If this doesn't count. He went on the injured list. Last year with ellis and then Day deal. i'll excuse me strained. Lower back twenty nineteen twenty eighteen. Two thousand fourteen two thousand twelve thousand nine. Yeah so it's not a ton of trips. One two three four five six seven eight in his career. I mean he's been around for a long time. It's only it's only hit the hit. The deck eight times is not terrible so got drew. I just told you. Twenty twenty twenty twenty august third august third with illness strained lower back was two thousand nineteen. Then you went on the sixty day in twenty fourteen. I strained left. Quad fucker in twenty fourteen. I'm not really concerned. With joseph vodkas. I o history. I just wanted to know when the son of a bitch got hit last. Because i thought it was gonna go but it was three months ago here last last year. Yeah so it sucks. Because you don't want you know as always giovanni entertaining. Dude i want you evolved ruben. Doors on the. I l. after that home plate collision. That didn't look great. Demonstrate that mold and maldonado is a brick. If we're just being honest. Yeah he he did not go on i l. And he hit a fucking hit mood bomb today the next day. I thought over today to today today. He did get a knock. I think the first knockoff. Garrett cole today yeah that was scary. Very scary said you. There was no avoiding that. So he'll be out. Hopefully the cobwebs clear We gotta talk about this mistake. This oversight what. I got to tell you my my preseason manager of the year candidate is not really doing me any favors. Does you pick tony. I told you. I was going to walking. You had a lot of shit picks jared. It's easy to conceive shit. I've wanted to because for hill. I didn't pick a safe pick. Pick a fucking the worst pick imaginable. I didn't tell you that you picked a safe pick. I told you that. I didn't and here's why and you can't tell me that i'm wrong when i tell you this. If if tony doesn't have the shit that he's already gone through if he doesn't have to deal with that should already okay. And the white sox this is division beneath you. This bill notes. Not not at all. You are trying to justify your tony. Larussa manager of the year pick on may six when he's like the jerry jirgas interest. You're not you're not listening to me. No no there's no defending at this point. What has gone on there. No no defending that. Okay what are you trying to explain to you about. My preseason pick was. Did i see him not knowing the fucking rules to baseball. No i did not see that coming. Jared i'm sorry man so if you're going to be coming but let me ask you that seriously seriously if if i said before. The season started and it's the day of the predictions podcasts. And then you're and then hold on hold on and then you make your tony larussa pick there and then when you say tony. Larussa might take for manager of the year and i say dallas. This guy is so fucking old so out of touch like he hasn't been managing what if what would you be surprised if he forgot or just didn't know some of the brand new rules. What would you have said. Then i would have said. It probably wouldn't surprise me but the fact that there are the nerds that there are surrounding him. There's no point where he's not going to know that or that that is an option and that is just like that's true. There's no way that like because that's a bigger problem. Is it not. That's a bigger problem. If everybody in the dugout or excuse. I did think of that. I think i don't fucking rules man. You know what goes on here corrobos. You made that foam rings from upstairs but yeah not only does in that situation like honestly you see liam out there what you can't book called. Hey hey tony donate. We got nobody else out there. Yeah just who would've jose abreu. Yeah you just get to second. Instead you get your fucking your offseason chrysler closer to land hendrix to save the day you just keep a guy thirty forty million dollars. And he's out there as the extra rudder in extra innings and pose this question is was liam hendriks and this was under the premise that you had to have liam as the runner there right Like is this the same thing. Liam hendriks being the extra runner at second base in extra innings. Is that like tom. Brady having to return the kickoff in overtime because they just couldn't get it done and that's the rule this guy this is who has to run it back now. It's like what the fuck who would ever do that. Who would ever agree to that. Being a rule like where you could ever have somebody in that situation well probably a little bit more fragile than liam hendriks would be in that situation your quarterback whoever it is what do you want that person not tell whoever it is you want your high profile like even your wide receiver. There's receivers who run back. Get it but like no. You're just you're just. There's guys that you're not putting spot guys that you don't want to have in that spot. Want him in that spot up seen too bad. why so. Let me ask you this answering honestly. Because i know that your pick is on the line up his own take it to the end of the season o dude all all i do. I have to answer that verbally. Man of because. Look i i wanna why he does if he does. Because he's a fucking reinsdorf will obviously plays a role in it. That's why he got hired in the fucking first-place clearly. You have to know you have to know that like the smart baseball executives and that organization are fucking furious. Oh could you. Could you imagine what that group chat looks like. Oh my god like that. Group chat is getting people fired. You're getting banned for based paul report. That group mean like there are arrows. Being fired no doubt and as they should be because he never should've gotten hired in the first place is because he's dealt with like you'll lose lou bob and you'll lose away early on. I mean it's almost like it's not a matter of we're going to fire you because the team's not doing well they have the best run differential in the division by a lot. Did they play today. But let's say that let's say that evens out and they and they and they start to really miss those guys okay. Yeah sure. I mean i. I still think that that. Even with even with like your and roberts like it's still a very winnable winnable division. That's taisei roberts. Luis robert did see roberts. Yeah he's just one robert he's just one Yeah that's a very winnable division. Even without those two. I mean you obviously worry about what what could happen in the postseason but if he loses his job it has nothing to do with the team's performance. It's more just like this guy is going to cost us in the postseason because of a decision that he does or does not make. It's not about what the team does over one sixty two. It's about if we get into a game. Six elimination game like our backs are against the wall. Or we're in game seven scenario. Do we trust tony to push the right buttons. I don't think there are many people in that front office. They're like yeah. Yeah definitely. i don't disagree. It's a i think and you also have to consider. This is an organization that is not known for spending a ton of money like you just mentioned liam hendriks made what forty million dollars whatever it was. He's probably the third highest paid player in team history at that number. So it's a matter of. We have a window of time to win a championship. We have some of these cost control. Players are in their prime seasons. And we've added free agents veteran free agents from the outside to supplement our core. Here we have a window to do something special and this is the guy that's at the helm like. This is the guy that's going to bring us to the promised land. No no he's not. And i don't like it was a mistake and i hope that. I hope that they don't have too much pride to not be able to admit that they made a mistake. Upfront like like to acknowledge. You have knowledge that organisations won't do that of bringing because this is what it was for me and this is why i like through. You know i went out on the limb of tony being the manager of the year because back to my point being serious for a minute if if he can get out of his own way and get out of that clubhouse is way and just let them do their thing and from time to time makes a move where you're like. Oh you know what. I could see how that works out. Maybe he brings liam in in a high leverage spot before the ninth inning and hands it over to somebody else down there in bullpen. And you're like damn you know what that's the tony that fucking invented manipulating the bullpen. Wow okay if that happens and they win their division and they do what they do. You're looking at it going. You know what that whole. Bring the cool grandpa in. Who knows how to handle these young kids and it's just going to let them do what they do. Kind of vibe. That worked because that's what the astros have done with dusty baker dusty baker to completely different individuals dusty. Baker is a cool motherfucker. And i'm not telling you that tony larussa isn't i'm just telling you that. How dusty you. Tony operate very different in terms of communication. Very different in terms of how they just basically. I'll leave it at communication. 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Pujols Talk   The Chris Hrabe Show Ep. 145

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Pujols Talk The Chris Hrabe Show Ep. 145

"The automated chris. Raby sean scoops today. Mac dot com. It is the ferai day. May the seventh two thousand twenty one edition of the program going to call an audible. We'll tell you about it in just a moment. Because albert pools has been delayed by the angels. We will put our fantasy draft on. Hold more on that coming up in just moment. Don't forget you can tweet me. You can email me. Give me your thoughts. Give me your email questions. They might be more appropriate now than ever at c. h. r. a. b. e. on twitter. You can email me. Chris scoops dany mak dot com. We are broadcasting as always from the ophthalmology associates studios up associates. The doctors doctors on the web at your eye. Doc dot com the best doctors anywhere. You need to go and get your eyes checked out. I don't care if you wear glasses or contacts. I don't care if you say. Chris is are fine. My is perfect. I can see through takes with. The best of them does matter hotshot still go and get. 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The doctors doctors ophthalmology associates. We are proud to broadcast from the ophthalmology associates studios are switching things up a bit on the show because of the albert pujols holes news. Generally we would have a fantasy draft right now on friday. Because it's a fantasy draft friday. You will get that draft. You will hear that draft either of the weekend or on monday. We'll figure that out will probably go draft heavy next week but You know it. It just felt like There were a few things that i wanted to say. Because i think that one of the things i was talking about yesterday and granted it is a totally totally totally different situation. It's apples and oranges. But you know yesterday. I was talking about carlos martinez and you know how we take for granted. Sometimes how young. A player is because of all that they've accomplished. I think sometimes we take for granted greatness and we take for granted what greatness might mean or the shield or the you know invincibility that greatness seems to often provide and in the case of a player like albert pools. It doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem like albert pool should be designated for assignment should be released. Should be you know wrapping up the final year of his ten year. Deal in anaheim this way and we can debate the merits of the deal itself. And i'm not arguing that it was a prudent deal. I'm not arguing that the angels shouldn't be doing this holes made a great business decision by signing that deal with the angels when he did a decade ago the cardinals dodged the proverbial bullet and the angels are making a business decision right. Now you know. They've got a new general manager. They have to make business decisions and baseball decisions. They don't have anywhere for pu holes to play. now. I will cut off at the pass immediately Any type of reunion with the cardinals. I i don't think there's any way that should even be Entertained at the at at this point from the cardinals but it still doesn't seem right that polls For the time being when the dust settles at the end of the week you know the man who ranks fifth in career home runs the three time. Mvp doesn't seem like it should end this way for him. I hope from just a baseball sandpoint from a sappy standpoint that that it doesn't end like this for bul. So i say that because i think we take for granted sometimes again guys being able to go out on their own terms or guys being able to play the string out the way they want to play the string out because oftentimes and almost always. It does not happen that way. It doesn't it does not look. How razor thin the margin can be in a perfect example of the last couple of years is right in front of us in saint. Louis yada or molina and win right. I mean how close. We're both the audio molina. And adam wainwright we'll never know. Perhaps but we do know wainwright offers. We do know molina had offers. Both guys had plenty of interest this offseason wainwright for a couple of seasons. How close were they to going the route that almost everyone in professional sports goes at one point or another whether it's before their first contract ends after the first contract after their second contract after multiple contracts with one organization. It just doesn't happen that a superstar player gets to play out. The string gets to play out his entire career with one organization so obviously that is in a way. What makes you know albert pool holes and what the last ten years have been I think seem more like the norm. Then the exception yadira molina and animal are the exception. Like just thinking about the guys who have gotten to do it guys who have gotten to play their entire career and i'm not talking about their rights being owned by another team like we'll say have gotten to play or to play their whole career For one team and did it at a superstar level because the list is very very short. Let's start with baseball I mentioned yati and wainwright but when we're talking you know the modern era the last twenty years or so. We're talking you know outside of the cardinals organization in baseball a rocking the last twenty years or so Around sports i think that going through the list and going through the players is a really really drastic reminder of just how rare this is. so let's do it. Let's do the exercise right now. All right so these are guys who have done it which means they are not playing anymore and again in the last twenty years because i think the volatility in free agency and in contract is really really important to take into consideration so it just kind of a quick list off the top of my head at the no brainers derek. Jeeter johm mauer. I mean that's kinda realist- ends as far as like the hall of famers and the outside saint louis guys who have done it with just one team and ever done it with just one team throughout their hall of fame career over the last couple of decades. I suppose if you dig a little bit deeper you can get to like You know some active guys like clayton. Kershaw maybe like the buster. Posey would be you know kind of on par with with your ear. Molina I suppose maybe someone like dustin pedroia although he did just retire Maybe ryan braun when he eventually retires but again. I think that that list just goes to show You know just how ridiculously rare it is. You can go a little bit further back and you can find Guys you can find you know examples of players who did it twenty thirty years ago and it becomes a little more common but you know for the group of guys that are in baseball right now or just recently retired. It's really really really rare. Like i'm i'm just scanning again Some names and man it's It's not something that you can find many even thinking guys like that you know you never thought would've left i. I guess maybe david right but but that was obviously and is obviously a a different circumstance because of the injuries but chipper jones. I guess but but that's even going back a little too far for my liking. Because i said the two thousand and two thousand ten he had you know the best years of his career in in the late nineties so really really really difficult Like you think about football. It's i don't know maybe ray lewis Ally manning philip rivers. No not philip rivers. See i just did it. He went to the colts It's it's impossible man. It's really really tough brandon. Locker i guess but like it's just it's when you're talking about that caliber player. It just doesn't happen. You can think more of the guys who you know should have stayed in one spot brett farr michael jordan albert pools. You know who knows what will happen with Look at for instance chicago blackhawks jonathan tapes patrick kane who knows never thought that they would be on the move and who knows what the future holds for jonathan dave's but who knows if patrick kane will be moved you know like it just. It doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen in sports. It's such a thing that i think we take for granted or we assume that you know because guys are some of the best of all time because there are conic within an organization that they'll be in the same place forever looking martin brodeur you know because at some point what happens is in organization to make a business decision and a player has to face his competitive desire that burns within him and if an organization makes a business decision and says we can no longer employees. You play you pay you. You know we've got to make decisions for our organization moving forward unless the player says okay. That's cool you know i. I'm at peace. I don't need to play anymore. You know nine times out of ten. We can't get inside the head of a of a competitor at that level. And if you think you can still play and if someone's going to pay you keep playing by all means but it's just so rare that you know there is symmetry when it comes to the end from each side and i think that we overlooked at and we take that for granted. I'll think of a million more examples of this very very shortly like as soon as i'm done with this but you know even just thinking about baseball. It's oh ridiculously tough to think of examples in the last ten twenty years. Because you just don't have things and on your terms in life that's life and you know for pools like i said. The cardinals certainly dodged a bullet I don't know. And i don't think that this will change the way anyone views him but it just. It just seems strange right like it. It seems like this shouldn't happen to a player albert pools so man just thinking about how ridiculously rare it is for guys to play with one organization. Look at sedano. Chara man look and play with one organization and be on. The you know perfectly align terms in terms of the when it's over when it's a business decision to move on like on an example that that hits close to home. Look at david backes and i think doug armstrong has done as good a job as any manager an any one running a front office in any sport over the last decade or so of making unemotional decisions right like making decisions for the sake of the franchise not letting emotion in a salary cap league where emotion or. I don't wanna say lifetime achievement awards but like pain for achievement in the past rather than rather than projection and expectation in the future. That can absolutely berry right. And hey i'm not going to criticize like the blackhawks were kings. But i'm i'm especially not going to criticize the blackhawks. You won three cups okay. So i won't pretend like there is anything wrong with the way that stan bowman and that front office built that team Built around the core that they did They're gonna be very very good again very very soon. If not are very good again right now in terms of of their young players but like man you see what the What the massive long-term ten year double digit year deals. You know especially for players that played much and played as heavy of minutes as guys like seabrook and keith and obviously taves and cain you see what they did to that organization and corey crawford and mary hosts set like you see what that did to that or and you know. That's the part of the reason why i was so impressed. With doug. armstrong won a couple years ago after a blues team went further than any blues. Had in quite some time. Captain by david bacchus anchored in the playoffs and in the against the blackhawks by troy brouwer who scored that goal against chicago and got the blues through the proverbial layer of scar tissue into the next round a blues team. That was within two wins of getting to the stanley cup. Final you know. He made some really tough decisions and parted ways with david. Backes and troy brouwer said. The league is going in a different direction. We cannot afford to commit to players that we don't believe will help get us to that new direction and we don't necessarily believe will help us succeed and flourish in that new style of play in the new style of o. So it was really really tough. It was really really tough and david backes got a a big deal from boston. That ended up being a deal. That was not great for the bruins. And god bless david beckham's love him as a person. I hope that he lives in saint louis and him and his wife and his family doing credible things continue to do incredible things in in in the community you know but from a hockey perspective doug armstrong made a really really savvy business move same with with leading troy. Brouwer go on to his next stop and you know maybe some family considerations for brower but still a guy who was a hero in the postseason for the blues and played that kind of blues heavy hockey can do it. You know traded kevin shattenkirk One of the most popular guys on that team in the last decade two decades traded him because he was realistic that the blues weren't going to resign him so moved him at the deadline and ended up getting some really important pieces back. You know Moved paul stastny at the deadline made decisions that moved. Brian moves jake. Allen made decisions that weren't necessarily popular but they were business decisions. They were not tied to emotion. John made some of those as well. You know certainly the pools decision though they were outbid like the bruins didn't outbid the blues for david back is but you know i. I think that it's so rare that we see that symmetry of her player and organization and see it go on as long as someone like molina and wainwright has gone on or jeeter from our like. It's just it's not something that happens very often and some point. It probably won't ever happen because of free agency because of you know the cap in the sports outside of baseball. Just it's it's gonna be something to snap because of player empowerment because of players having a having the damn right to choose where they want to go. Hey they say this to you know and that used to not be the case guys are reaching agency earlier so that's a business decision as well. I don't want to say that it's all on the team or that. The power is solely in the possession of the team. Because guess what players are getting this power earlier and earlier as well so you know i was just struck by this thinking about it and thinking about what i talked about yesterday in terms of carlos martinez and it just thinking about how rare it is to have someone like yadda. You're molina or someone like wainwright in saint louis doing what they're doing right now to think about all of the guys and all the players who could have showed up in the eyes of fans like you and me stayed with their team. That'll be good draft. Maybe we'll do that draft next week. Who goes number one jordan. Farve peyton manning. I get stuff because it's got to be someone who like realistically could could've like wayne. Gretzky was never going to stay with the oilers right So it's gotta be someone that could have like that. It was realistic them to stay with the same team. But it just doesn't happen man. It just doesn't happen. And i think that we need to really really really appreciate Just a longevity of these careers because at the end I appreciate albert pujols holes and reveal revere albert pool says a baseball player regardless of of how it ends or where it ends for him. I hope he gets to play out this year. He gets a send off he deserves. It'd be great if you could somehow end up in a cardinal uniform expanded rousers in september but that's not the way things work it's not the way business works but it's also not the way the legacy works and it will not impact won. God damn iota. The way that i feel or baseball fans feel about our pools. Best of all time and we have been lucky. Not just as saint louis but his baseball fans to watch him do it and watch him do it better than anyone for a really really longtime quick break back in a moment chris sean scoops the danny amac dot com well regardless of whether or not we see our favorite players just one uniform their whole career. 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"The baseball tonight. Podcast is presented by linked in jobs. Baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for friday may seven two thousand and twenty one producing from a bootleg studio and his in laws in long island. Is taylor shrank. I'm buster only working for my own studio in new york. Before he had out tomorrow to atlanta or sunday baseball this week we've got the philadelphia phillies against the atlanta braves. The angels announced yesterday huge news that they have designated future hall of famer. Our pools for assignment pools forty one years. Old batting one. Nine hundred eighty eight to fifty three seventy two. Here's some sound from the press conference. Yesterday after the angels made that announcement perry menasian talking about our. There's never a right time for something like this. Obviously have other spec in the world for what type of player he is. This is more about playing time and who we have now. We have a a young first baseman. We feel really excited about in. Jared walsh more about opportunity. Albert is not a bench player. You know we felt like for him was with respect to him keeping him on the bench him not getting any playing time. We're not do him any good or the team any good so good. Good time for this but with that being said we felt like it was the best thing for the organization. I'm gonna dive into this a lot. Today we'd call ravitch and we're going to be hearing a nice essay. The tim curtin did on albert pools as we talk about the legacy of one of the greatest hitters of all time Some other news. Bluejays outfielder george springer is not expected to be ready to return to the lineup. When he's ten day injured list ends on may thirteenth that according to general manager ross atkins so for george springer for the blue jays and frustration with that Quiet issue that he's had early in the sheared. The mets surprise people by carlos carrasco to the sixty day injured list. Which means that he won't be able to make his debut until may twenty eighth at the earliest. I heard on sunday. That was likely he's going to return next weekend. But obviously something has happened As he's worked his way back in recent days he goes on the sixty day injured list. The hits just keep on coming for the colorado rockies. They're highly touted prospect. Their basement colton welker was suspended. Eighty games by the commissioners office thursday after testing positive for performance enhancing substance which. I won't bother to try to pronounce thirty letters. Taylor you want to jump in here and try to pronounce this performance enhancing substance. Let's go with d hydroxy lor methyltestosterone. You got closer than i ever would've. I can tell you. Because i looked at five different times like i. Just i'm not even gonna bother to try welker put out a statement. He said i want make it very clear that i have never willingly. Nord never willingly ingested any substance to enhance my performance given the information provided to me by the players association laboratory laboratory the amount detected was so minimal it would have had no effect on performing or enhancing my performance so the winning streak continues for anyone who gets busted. They say they didn't do it on purpose. Let's get to the good stuff. The marlins diamondbacks adam divall big heads. Now hi fly. Ball hit qui- vow going back at the fence and looking up at the automation sign and to make the play. The ball is out of here home. Run the break-up a one one game divall gives the marlins 2-to-1 leave and they would go on to win three two one that sound courtesy of winz the indians facing the royals trying to close at a suite. In one of the players. They got in the francisco. Indoor deal gave him some help. Here comes a swing and another fly ball pretty well hip toward the gap and left centerfield. It gets down. It'll go to the wall. Raise the scoring and rosario surround second. He's on his way to third with a two out. Rbi triple and a mattress with his best game as an indian tom hamilton. Wt yeah the indian sweep that series their first place in the american league central. We'll be talking about dan with carl. Ravaged coming up astros yankees. Yesterday was jose altuve as birthday in the face of all those angry yankees fans. Well guess what top of the eighth inning. Couple runners on base al to bay at the plate. Mccormick's going to three two and two drives this one deep to left field it since back fraser at the wall looking up. See you later. Jose al tubay go ahead. Three run homer astros lead at five two three four seven ninety a and the astros win that game seven two four the phillies in the brewers phillies scored just two runs. But you know what that's all zack. wheeler needed. he was absolutely dominant here against sweeter. Looks back at second and wheelers pitch swung on in the air right field side foul ground hoskins going over. He's under he's got it. And he's pulled off the four-game sweep for the brewers behind sack wailer who tosses a complete game shutout the second of his career his first since twenty four t scott france sports radio ninety four w i p now before we talked to carl ravitch about the angels decision to cut ties with our pools. Wanna tell you about. Espn films latest documentary. One forty four which takes viewers inside the wnba unprecedented two thousand twenty season. It's story of a condensed season entirely in a bubble where one hundred and forty four players across twelve teams not only came together to play basketball but also to dedicate their season to social justice. One forty four premiers may thirteenth at nine pm. Eastern time on espn the film will be available on espn plus immediately after it airs and as the nba season down. 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Lincoln jobs can help you hire the right person for your role fast and your first job post is free. Just visit. Lincoln dot com slash. Bt n that's linked in dot com slash bt an to get your first job post for free lincoln dot com slash bt n terms and conditions apply. It's the revie train whitcomb rabbits. Carl ravitch course osa baseball tonight play by play man here i'm all over. Espn espn radio. Espn television or abbey. The big talker around baseball yesterday. Of course the angels decision to designate our pools for assignment. It was a shock and it wasn't a shock at all. What did you think hundred percent. I think Those of us. You know anytime. You're covered a game and a player for as long as we have. It's just another reminder that we are all they advancing age and our skill level diminishes Look i think when we look at baseball and the relievers and the velocity and the spin rate it becomes more and more of a challenge for even the greatest hitters of their time to consistently be successful. And let's be honest. Albert is not the albert that we saw take brad to the train tracks route. Three home runs in a series game. He's very different. And you've got to look pretty. Organization best interests having albert holes in the lineup was in the organization's best interest and this is the business versus the people aspect of it. And yes i agree the way you said it is perfect. It was shock and yet it was hardly unexpected. Did this morning. And they asked me about it You know about albert and what his future is and he told the angels. The other day made it clear. He doesn't think he's done. But i there is a chance that he is done for a couple reasons. One his production the last four plus seasons at two forty batting average to eighty nine on base percentage. Four five slugging percentage in the fact is is that this conversation about whether or not to release albert is going on angels organization for a couple of years because he just simply not been the same player for the angels that he was with the cardinals and number two. You know you know carl. This is erin which teams really value. Positional flexibility and albert doesn't bring that at all He's either a first baseman and d. h. Which means that all the national teams probably would pass. You're not going to bring them into play defense. You're not going to bring him in. Pinch run It's would be such a specific role at you. Look at the red sox and they filled this team. The all these guys you can play like six positions so i don't know if a team would actually look at him. I think everyone's wondering about the white sox because of his tremendous history with tony. Larussa is former manager with the cardinals. But that's a classic example. The white sox have jose abreu at first base. And they have your your mean mercedes. Who's been their best hitter so far this year. It d. h. I don't think there would be a role for albert. My guess is supposed to some american league team Who believes that. A you know either are through injuries or for any other reason you know race. We'll take a flyer on him being a d. h. I i don't know that you're mine. Mercedes continues this and if he is starting to kind of come back to earth a little bit. Well let's try albert pool so we we've lost a couple of big. That's on the white sox be worth a try to raise. You know if there's some injuries what let's give it a try. I think the problem's gonna be for those that most albert fools You you are trying to catch lightning in a bottle and you hope when you sign him. He's sort of been a window. Where all of a sudden he's seeing the ball at is your reaction. Time is quicker but but every every card in the deck is stacked against his Continued or long term success. And that's the reality of it all As unfortunate as it is. That's that's the reality of where we are in major league baseball and again i just go back to one year positional flexibility. That all these seems are looking for and to Be inability of somebody. Who's not ronald kunia mike trout. warren soda. hand is speed. It's just very different. And albert's workers aso's to being on the field but there were years back where you would watch him fly to to first base and you would be in pain. Knowing the pain he's experiencing so so even last this long i think is attributed again. So what we all know about him. He's as harder worker. There is he literally is like he's like a master craftsman. When it comes to a woodworking you know the end product is gonna be incredible but you also realize that the the diminished abilities are going to require this product and take a hell of a lot longer to do what he was able to do. So i think we're going to get into a stage at where a team is gonna try them and then maybe you know a month later. Say work the baby another team. This is going to try them because of what he is in what he's what he's meant and what he can bring with one three the closest situation i can compare. Albert's too in this moment is to was to each row. You remember when he was with the mariners and there was talk with their here. And before the yankees made the deal for brian. Cashman got on the phone with each row and said you know what we'd love to have you but are you prepared to play one or two days a week. Are you prepared to be only a pinch hitter or defensive replacement. Can you do all those things and each row said yes. But here's the thing. Carl he can do a lot of different things. He could still play centerfield. They can still be a defensive replacement. He could be a pinch runner. I don't know. I mean albert certainly doesn't have that ability. I don't know how interested he would be in that very specific time role and and i do feel like that. Look his silence yesterday. The angels held this oppressors they talked about You know he's exit from the team. Was it clue into his anger. His frustration for lack of a better way to describe it. Which isn't as surprised. Because you and i have seen so many great players through the years at the end of their careers. They will never concede that they're beaten by father time. I was covering cal ripken when they moved him from shortstop to third base and he was really angry about that angry about the way they came down. He disagreed with the decision. And derek. Jeter's last year with the yankees. He was struggling at the beginning of the year. They talked to him and said look. We want to move down the order. He didn't want to go along with that. And that that's part. Carl of what makes these guys great. Yes it is and you're right in the case of pools Versus year or each year. Oh it and even ripken. We're moving your from shorts to third in pool halls this case it's not we're moving you from third over the first or taking you from outfields d. h. there is no position and that is the that is the most difficult pills to swallow but in a game that relies on reflexes that are gained relies on versus charity that again that obviously embraces. You know you over over age experience at some point. Even the experience recognizing pitches is going to be overmatched by the fact that the pitch whether you recognize it or not. You're you're unable to you what you can't it. No one wants to look at a situation and think well the situation is going to be better off with me out of it than me included in it and he's either going to have to be willing to embrace that role Or not play at all. You know. I think the angels a you know a lot of ways. They've gone out of their way to yuppie accommodate. Who keeping somebody like albert. On and jared walsh has been unbelievable and they have that position and those positions covered. So you have to objectively and we can do that because we're not angels. We're not members of the pools family. You have to look at it objectively and say again. Are we better off with player at we would be with player. Y removed the name. Remove the legacy removed the hall of fame numbers. Which you know. You shouldn't do but you have to when it comes to objective find this this particular decision soccer. There's there are facts and the facts are born out let alone the fact that we have way more numbers and ways to analyze players now and show effectiveness or ineffectiveness than we did when albert was on his way or getting six hundred plus homers and. Three thousand hits. I'm being captain obvious. When i say that he should be should be a unanimous selection first time. His name appears in the hall of fame ballot. Yes of course without question and you know again likely won't be but absolutely should be and there's no reason to discuss his fan credentials. There's always now the do thing like is this going to be unanimous. And then there's some voter gonna eat him off the ballot just for the sake of whatever reason or hill they wanna die on but yeah you don't look at those numbers and this isn't this. Isn't the debate. This is just a question of his. Everybody that you're the right bringing vote for him. The first one hundred percent unanimous should be first run and will you know that you mentioned that homerun run of brad lidge in the two thousand five playoffs. That's my favorite albert moment. I was in houston for that Cardinals down top of the ninth inning. Brad lidge trying to close out a game and albert hits the ball and three sounds at a will always stick with me one. The sound of a ball hitting the bat the absolute explosion to the ball crashing against that window pane above the railroad tracks and three dead silence of the fans saw. And i can remember hearing story about when the astros left Left houston to go to game six to try to close it out. And they did with royals. Welton the mound. But i think it was office. It was One alleged teammates looked out the window and said to his teammates. Oh look there's albert baseball classic baseball in terms of irreverence. But that was the moment that stuck out to me. And i loved an absolutely the most underrated part of him as a player was his base running like all the things that he would do running the basis. Despite the fact that he wasn't very fast what what moments for you that stick out. I you know having been there. Basically since he showed up and covered him and during the day you're albert halls when l. Hombre was number sheen Several times i got a chance to interview and talk with them and then you're always looking to understand what what that particular athlete or performer sites as his reason for success. So you know in a simple question you know what allows you to do the things you do. He just said. I trust my hands and and a lot of ways. The great ones seem to be able to break down their success to the simplest things you know. I think we idolize those like brady and tiger woods and jeeter and the current tastes albert pools. And you're like there's gotta be some secret there's gotta be something you know barry bonds that that no one else knows. And how often do you listen to radio or woods or in this case pool host. Tell me i trust my hands. And you're like well that that seems so simple like what is what does that even entail. Because you hit it harder you you barrel it your exit all the things that we now look at it and be like well. That's why you know who is so great at this. And that's why aaron judge when he hits it in june carlos stanton your it just feels like they. They wouldn't say well. I trust my hands. It would be mechanical and album. It was like i crossed my hands. But then when you watch them you know one thing looking at highlights him now You know because everybody's pointing them. There has been nothing that's changed about his swing about his style about his His batting stats like literally nothing. You mentioned ripken. The changes his fans thousand times jeeter would change his batting stance. It felt like every other every other week. Albert just is. It's the same swing every single. I would just change the swing a hundred times but the trusting of the hands always i will never forget that because it seems so simple and in a way it was the mind clear i go to the play. I'm not really thinking about anything. Because i could trust what my hands are going to do. They're gonna put me in the best position to hit the baseball and they did. So there's all the the visceral memories you know the homers in the world series Homer his ability to make plays in third then first base but it was his simplicity. When it came to his craft that. I'll i'll remember because you know the thing that he told me it's like it's like david ortiz telling me as walked around. And fenway park. This this green monster. This was my security blanket. You just never think the way that they do and when you understand it it's it's great and let me ask you this muster so like right you just today. We don't you think this guy walked away a few years ago david ortiz. If he were still playing would have as much success as albert pool and yet david ortiz walked away a few years ago. There is an awareness in in some guys it. This is what i want. this isn't working at. I've not worked anymore but wants to. Yeah and i think david it was important to be great with albert. And it's part of what you know we we've been talking about him in jeeter and cal ripken. And what albert share with those guys work ethic which. I'm glad you touched on and mental toughness. All my god is he. It's not easy in recent years. You know go out there and grind away where he hit two twenty five their article saying you're one of the worst players in baseball and he's going to work and every year you talk to. Angels people nate say in great shape he. He's looking good. But father time undefeated and it certainly wasn't this case. I got a few minutes left with you. So i want to run a few things past. You you know. The this is the time of the year when we get the triple crown races. And i'm always looking for that horse coming up on the outside and gathering momentum and so just going to throw some teams at you and see the agree with me. The tampa bay race. You swept the series against the angels man. It really is starting to feel like this team with all of that. Great pitching which extends down into the minor leagues. They are gathering momentum. I ain't they're incredibly dangerous. What about you. yeah. I mean it just kind of looking at recent results looking at standings The dodgers are starting to play a little better. And you you just look at a lot of these teams and you realize like when healthy. They're still way better and the race to me. are different than the giants. Who are the giants are going to be a pain in the butt. But they don't have to me. They don't have the skill level that raised and yeah. I mean the razor one of them i think. Kind of steve. Frank eventually like you to look at the system and realized there there are there are resources that are available to us beyond going on making deal. Better going to make us better. They have that kind of i alluded to them with. Maybe that's the flyer and you know there's there's a lot of other things who brings to it seen that he's not hitting the baseball he can be you know a great benefit and they were in the world series last year But can you imagine that kind of personality that that cash that he would bring that experience it would bring that that whisper your facet of his game that he would bring the the razor one of them. I i think the cardinals were another. And i think a lot of people who've dismissive of pardons but i think the cardinals were in one of those teams that that eventually are going to rise in that vision and i felt that way from the beginning but i i feel more strongly you know. It's been a bit of a bumpy start every team. Lsu buster all of a sudden to win games and put things together the braves you're gonna braves are going to be really good when they healthy and they're starting to do that. I would say the braves. The cardinals and i would agree on the ritz. Yeah and the brains now. Getting their pitching or is back. They're going to be playing host this sunday night sunday night. Baseball against the philadelphia phillies. Who have not lost that debacle last sunday night last one for you just mentioned these teams moving forward. I love indians. Dave now won five in a row. They're not a dynamic team. Germs the offense they have but they just plug away plug away because they pitch forth in the ira in the al and every fifth day. They got shane bieber and they may not win. One hundred games. They may not necessarily be a serious threat to win the world series. But it's good team terry. Francona has good teams. Always says get james. Look there's no. There's no lack of coincidence that sona kevin patch both manage the raising the indians. And you know you. You can peeled away layers. You can send stars away. You can play away now and you can. You can lose charlie morton. We're okay like this. There is the belief because of their experience. I think in the sport and really your cash. Well is so then. Robert's obviously dave ross the other night in our game and you think about the impact those players made on world series winning teams when they were hardly this of the team. And you you know what he did. Risk to steel and his persona for the red sox and what ross did in sixteen for the cubs and his personality. He's sort of you know emboldens. The indians can relate to all thirty guards. Cash is certainly that guy. We're over. Its baseball and nf into the tournament close as stuff can happen and you have a staff let bieber and by the way how good is suppose they ramirez but you can take guys away. We've seen friendly rest killing the baseball lately. What blow comes up with big. They have these guys that they somehow Instill a level of confidence and ability in. And then you do have still a star of the team rivers. Who is once again. Reminding everyone i am a really damn good eater and and arguably One of the best one. I'm right in in. The league is not picking ravin. Good to talk with you thanks. Here's tim curtin on albert pools. If the end of the career is near album pools it has been quite a run one of the best of all time. His greatness began immediately and for more than a decade. Never stopped holes won the rookie of the year. Two thousand one hitting three twenty nine with thirty seven home runs and one hundred and thirty rb. His first ten seasons with the cardinals were arguably the best first ten seasons of anyone in history he is the only player to hit three hundred with thirty homers. And one hundred. Rbi is in each of his first ten years holes. One three mvp awards. He finished second four times and in ten of his first eleven seasons he finished in the top five. The cardinals won the world series in two thousand six and two thousand eleven with pool holes as the teams best player and its leader in every way on and off the field. Wolves career with the angels was filled with injuries playing through pain. His career average dipped to two ninety eight six hundred and sixty seven homers and three thousand. Two hundred and fifty. Three hits puts him with hank. Aaron willie mays and alex rodriguez as the only players ever with six hundred homers and three thousand hits after lou gehrig's greatest first basement of all time is either jimmy foxx or albert pool. Who showed up every day. Ready to play. Take it and to win. He was indeed. The machines is the chief executive of our weekly quiz. He's a graphic artist. Who's working ballfields. All across america all around the world or you can go to website. Todd radim dot com and todd. Good morning good morning. Happy friday buster absolutely. So i'm going to throw a curveball at you off the top before we move onto other things one. Ask you in this week. That willie mays turn ninety in your mind. Who's the greatest baseball player of all time gun to my head. I think you've gotta willie. Mays because i know you have said this before. But anything pre nineteen forty seven you know comes with a qualifier and you know willie mays did it all did it all. Yes babe ruth pitched and you know. Hit home runs at a prodigious rate and yeah but willie mays was complete five tool player that every player in the history of the major leagues has aspired to be. I don't think there's a better answer very nice well. I'm glad that you agree with me. Because you're the smartest person i know. Especially since you run a quiz that. I'm winning every week all right. Let's talk about the forgotten franchise for this week. The cleveland spiders buster. The cleveland indians will soon be renamed. And some have suggested spiders. Well today we're going to take a look at the cleveland. Spiders who played from eighteen eighty seven to eighteen. Ninety-nine back when you were a cub reporter my friend. The club started out in the american association which was and is considered to be a major league. They played there for two seasons before moving over to the national league in eighteen eighty nine. And that's when they wear named spiders by club executive slash cleveland plain dealer writer. Frank brunell who was inspired by the gangly appearance of some of the team's players. After a so-so inaugural campaign the spiders roster was bolstered by a rookie named young who joined the club in eighteen ninety and wound up winning two hundred forty games over nine seasons with the team. The eighteen ninety-five spiders finished in second place during the regular season but won the temple cup. A postseason series between the first and second place teams bus securing the national league championship in eighteen. Ninety nine the spiders owners. The robison brothers purchased the nfl's saint louis franchise this is today's saint louis cardinals and proceeded to gut the cleveland roster sending most of the team stars to their saint louis club including three future hall of famers. The spiders home games were regularly shifted. The club played only forty two games at home that season as opposed to one hundred twelve on the road and they finished with the most abysmal record in major league history with twenty wins and one hundred thirty four losses. Eighty four games behind first-place brooklyn eighty four. Okay sorry to interrupt guy. I know where you're going with that. To buster at the conclusion of the season the spiders. With three other franchise washington louisville and baltimore were contracted out of the national league. Not even relegated but just contracted eliminated. Cleveland gained in american league franchise two years later in one thousand nine hundred one however the one that will soon be renamed but today we salute the cleveland. Spiders this week's forgotten franchise now. I would say going anywhere. When i kept saying eighty four because i was just astounded by that number that any team could finish eighty four games out of first place. Tell me what you had in mind. Well i thinking where we're going next with this week's quizzes matter-of-fact. Oh okay you mean me. Being eighty four games ahead of taylor. Well listen buster. I said this last week on twitter. I it remains to be seen whether you are the one thousand nine hundred. Seventy eight red sox or the one thousand nine hundred ninety eight yankees wire-to-wire maybe seventy six reds are better example of that. I have no idea but we said it last week too. It's getting early late taylor. It is time to step things up my friend. I know it's rough. Everyone is on twitter though. They're all in my favorite all of my corner. They're all saying by the way that i should be going second. Because buster has the lead. That is what has been done before. I think busters been tampering with the rules. Here a little bit. I think we got in fact. We will check the bylaws and i can't remember what number will this is. Twenty one o one be maybe for the weekly quiz todd. It's the reigning champion. Who goes for a goes. I every week correct. That's done in the past. We have done it that way. In fact I believe it is actually twenty one a one c subsection. Three a little known consul. Here i have a big dusty book very. It's about six inches thick and mound fine moroccan letter. So i'm sorry about that. Taylor denied the supreme court. I am both the executive and the judicial branch over here. We lean operation. Stop account as over it or are we ready for this week's quiz tie. Here's your opportunity. Oh boy all right here. We go then. Nineteen ninety seven montreal roster included three future hall of famers pedro martinez and vladimir guerrero. Were two of them. Who was the third was a lee smith was it be gary. Carter see tim. Raines or d. Andre dawson the ninety seven three future hall of famers pedro martinez vladimir guerrero and one of this bushel. Full lee smith. Gary carter tim raines or andre dawson by dell knows this you got a twenty five percent chance. Let's do it. I'll go tim raines. I had the answer. Gary carter goddamn both of you happen to be wrong. Saw oh man put enough said. Yeah it was lee smith. I'll take a draw any day. Exactly it's as. I don't know if it's as good as a win. But it's the best you can hope for at this point so amazingly weeks. That is our first tie. Stop the bleeding. They're unbelievable buster momentum. Taylor would that you know. 'cause i didn't win i just. I just thought for sure. I heard the question i was like. Oh there's no chance gets this wrong so you know take it. Yeah i remember. Gary carter finished up at some point. He had hit another. Run back through montreal So yeah i blew that one my fall. Well you hold to serve and we will go to week. Nine with buster with a firm lead and taylor. There's time here to pick up a hall of famer off the waiver list. You can make some moves i he. I think he's hinting about josh macrey stepping in for a week. I'm going to be out next week. So someone is gonna have to step in and hopefully they can make some ground for me. Well and you're you can annoyed someone to step into your place right. Maybe we'll we'll see the call to the bullpen phone. I you know this is going to be. This is going to be fascinated. Yeah this was a big loss by me because gary carter's career ended in nineteen ninety. Ninety-two win the montreal. Expos but that was five years before. Lee smith so ninety seven you know Was really stupid by me. All right thank you. Bleacher tweets already buster bleacher tweets for a friday. And i up. we're going to go with at bullpen. Troll he rates. And what do you think is this. The most twenty twenty one play of the year so far seemed so emblematic of the game. At this moment where we are so far from old school fundamentals and whacky play in the astros yankees game buster. I think you're going to do a better job describing this than i will. Yes so there's a gleyber torres who's on first base for the yankees a ground ball. Hit up the middle. They can't get gleyber torres at second base in gleyber torres. Just keep running. Because the shift is on and so he sees her base open and he racist third. Martine maldonado the astra's veteran catcher sees third base open to. So he's like. Oh i'd better get over to third base and he gets close there and then he realizes oh my god. There's nobody covering home played. And so glaring tori is just never stops running. It's like a little league game and bullpen troll. I i know what you're trying to say. But i would disagree with you on this. I think that's just the case where you know. The players are involved with these with the shifts that they don't necessarily they're not condition to know where to go in a given moment. We've seen that from time to time. I think yesterday we did see a game. That was very emblematic of two thousand and twenty one. Raising angels. Last night taylor. I don't saw this. The first nine guys who came to the plate struck out that is emblematic of baseball. In two thousand twenty one. That is brutal next. we have. Ross ishikawa at rush ishikawa rates in the extra inning. On second rule seems to be bringing back small ball or am. I imagining things now. Ross and by the way. When i sell your last name i'm like jeeze. I wonder if he's related to travis who i got to cover hit a A series winning home run for the san francisco giants Anyway the yeah. There's no doubt about it. I love the tenth inning because everyone ask the question. Should you bunt right away. If you're on defense depict around the guy. do you walk the bases loaded. If the runner gets the third. It's a lot of fun loved the tenth inning. One today jeff. Or guarantee edge again t he. He's asking for some sort of bit here. That i think josh macrey used to do so. I don't. I'm not familiar with a bit but i will put my own spin on it. He asked detroit tigers yeah. I'm glad that you caught up on it. Bon jovi of course. That's what josh matter used to do. We would declare teams dead or alive. And i would say dead so sometimes i would do dead or alive and then i'd have him declare in this case tigers. It was interesting yesterday. I got a bunch of text message from people around baseball saying. Oh my god. That tigers terrible So day they seem to be a long way away from contending. That's for sure indeed. Indeed all right. Everyone thinks right in. Enjoy the baseball this weekend. Hashtag bleacher tweets. While you're watching those games as and raise should be interesting and Please follow review this podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts before we go. I do want to mention. We got sad news about del crandall star catcher replayed onto milwaukee braves teams that reached the world series in the nineteen fifties He passed away at age. Ninety one at a disease And he's surrounded by his family. I remember when he was a manager. milwaukee brewers seattle mariners so Someone very much respected in the game. That's it for today. That's it for this week's my thanks to carl. Todd and taylor have a great day. Everybody thanks for listening. Stay safe and remember hating inequality based on skin color is something. We need to fight against every single day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball check out the fantasy. Focus podcast wherever you listen to podcast the baseball tonight. Podcast do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing because having a home is hard work. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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518: Local Kids Honour Tim Stutzle's Hat Trick; Tim Tebow Returns to NFL; Golf Pro's Hunger Strike

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518: Local Kids Honour Tim Stutzle's Hat Trick; Tim Tebow Returns to NFL; Golf Pro's Hunger Strike

"The steve worn projects sports. And whatever. Hello everybody everybody. Welcome to our podcast. It's all about ottawa. sports. Talk is stephen jimmy. Once again schmooze ended up. Wants to get to today the hold off for now in the meantime i want to know right away james. How're things creeping me out. Man what are you doing. I don't know. I said a big bag of all right now. They spag favorite chips in the world. Ruffles double crunch jalapeno cheddar. Who is your thousand pounds matt. Snacker with all the shit. You're eating steve. You know you should. You should take a page out of my book. Okay for health. Let me just crush the so. You're my mentor stevie. I don't know where we're going to start Colin kaepernick must be pissed. Today when when they're signing seventy two year old. Tim tebow to a tight end contract dutch. I saw the headline. i'm like where did this come out of left. Field usually steve. You'd hear stories like he's training or we've found tim. T board of some sort of field house thrown passes or catching catching balls or something like that all of a sudden day. Wake up and it's it's one of the headlines on all the sports apps tim t-bills going to sign with ten for as a colin kaepernick. That's just a reset that that's an interesting comparison that i hadn't thought of colin kaepernick led a team to the super bowl in the quarterback position and has not been able to find a gig since that whole thing went down with the taking a knee and the anthem. He he obviously taking a step back in his career and he'd been primarily a backup. But this just in. You need three and sometimes four quarterbacks on an nfl sideline and the nfl has had no interest in this guy who went to a super bowl the quarterback position whereas tim tebow nine years after he played his last football game in a different position gets an nfl job in a position. He's never played isn't tight end with the jacksonville. Jaguars okay jacksonville. I thought it was denver. Denver was the tv was the court of. Didn't he go to the super bowl but denver. No god no. Oh i thought he did. One one playoff game with the denver broncos and he was a limited us a limited reason why they won that game but anyway he didn't go anywhere near a anywhere near a super bowl. Yeah guys are going to wake up this morning and look at this going. Roger starbuck is going to throw his name in there steve to come while he's not that old he's thirty three thirty four years old. Something like that focus. Seems like he's been around since the beginning of time but yeah that must would say that would rankle. What a word. What a verb worthy out right. Yeah he would rankle calling kabir somewhat. I would think it's kind of salt the nfl right. It's like he played in any then he. He went away saying well. I'm going to try baseball all right. I think that was his dealing to do that. And listen none of that stuff. Works out you guys. Just all you'll be happy to know. I'll come back one day. Okay i'll come back one day and you guys. Can you know with open arms. And all that shit's anyway like i said. I thought that was a joke. But i guess good for him. Okay for him factor in tom. Brady you know age wise. This is a spring chicken. Tim tebow and today the tampa bay buccaneers general manager gave an interview and said that if tom brady wants to play the age of fifty and he was dead serious when he said it. Then he's playing until he's age fifty. I would think that's a bit of a controversial statement that he probably have to go back on. If tom brady starts breaking down he's already passed. The age of you know well past his best before date and nobody goes as late as this guy. Has i have a hard time. Believing he'll be able to just physically be able to play until these fifty. Well i think the reason they say that You know now. The tom's getting pretty close to getting twenty five percent off at the movie theaters. i think. Probably why that's a safe thing to say is he won't hang on if he's no good anymore right. He would be the first guy to make the decision. You know I believe he would step up. Don't have i don't have it anymore. So i got. I got to step aside. You know it's hard to imagine him being any slower than he is now when you talk about how he could lose his step between now and fifty. It's impossible it really is like you are. I have the same mobility. Tom brady does he just he. He works with it. That's all. I gotta run backwards quicker than that guy. That's i don't run very fast forward. But you're good and great pal wayne gretzky when you think about him in nineteen ninety nine. He could've played some more. He left the game in nineteen ninety nine with sixty two points in seventy games like that still well within any well with an nhl parameters of being an excellent hockey player but the eyeball test would tell you. That's not the great one anymore and He'd been dealing with some neck problems and He could've played easily to three more years. Now maybe not easily but he probably would have fit in nicely for two three more years at least and the great ones no the great ones. No one. It's time. I think they do i think they i don't i don't You probably don't need to have that uncomfortable conversation when they maybe they started shitty game and the management all looking at each other going. Okay you you talked to cut to the best career in the last five hundred years in football. Who's going tell them. Time to step aside but again you think about that with albert pool. Who's had this wonderful hall of fame career and He signed his contract. I think it was a sixty year. Contract with a a ca- jillion dollars. Anyway he He was told was that line for moneyball. Sometimes we're told that we can't play the game you. Some of us are told them we're kids. Some of us are told when we're forty but eventually were all told right and And obviously albert pools was told and he was pissed benched and and the reality is you know it's a difficult discussion to have with these legends. Who wants to be the person who told the legend. He couldn't do it anymore. Yeah yeah i'll do it for me. I'll look after. Tom dried up beggar. Shit okay you have to get outta here taking a spot. I've got a super bowl ring from like a few months ago. What are you talking about right right anyway. all you know. Nfl the news in the nfl. Today old guys are hanging in there a little more a little more detail on the pool halls thing and that It happened last wednesday. The angels cut ties with the first member of the thirty. Two hundred. hit six hundred homer club ever get released by his team. And joel madden the manager said divorces difficult is never a good time to go through with the act. Sometimes it organically just has to occur so that had to be a very very difficult conversation for sure because i mean thalberg pools for his generation. He is as big as it gets. Anyway the day's gonna come you know it's like Like you say you're you're you're all going to be sat down and told whether you do it yourself for your family doesn't start you. Don't say well you got. You gotta get out of this game. No man you can't. There's nothing more you can do pal holy gs so certainly difficult to have. That conversation with the legend probably would hurt your heart even more to have a conversation with someone who's younger. A young family haven't made their millions and kajillions of dollars and that's That's the tail down the states of a young golf pro. Who was told. He's no longer part of the equation. 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There's all these characters all the time it private golf courses and he was one of these guys Membership couldn't get enough of the guy who was so nice so fun. Great teacher addressed all these. You know these these color for clothes. You know like the john daly pants and all that stuff yeah show showed up for work every day never late and all that stuff and then a new head pro came in and he. He started getting a hard time from. This wasn't going well over the last four or five months and then he gets turfed and gets let go probably from this head pro You know his his decision but he gets fired. Really out of left field with no reason He's he's in a state lives on. I i don't know what state it is. But he's in a state where you don't have to have caused apparently the fiery guy so he may be an uphill battle anyway. The day gets fired. He he's you know completely thrown off thinks it's wildly unfair was no discussion of severance or anything doesn't make a bunch of money. They live month to month so he he protested by having a hunger strike and no sleep to put a chair up at the gates of the golf course and i. I haven't. I haven't even heard of that in a you know in years and years and years and but he does he. He dug his heels in Thinking that you know this this will show them And when it kind of blew up kind of went viral that that's what this guy's doing and his answer to it as i need money. That's why i'm doing it. I need the cash members. Were stopping by the starting to get worried about the guy He did this trying to plead with him to say look at. There might be a better way to do this. And and he couldn't come up with a better way And then some member took it upon themselves to start gofundme page because he had lost twenty pounds in inside a week or something right. so they're worried about his health and having a heart attack and all that stuff and He started money. They go fund me from the members and stuff like that And so it ended. But i'll tell you what talk about a protest tv. Yeah you know. I just like i say i haven't. I haven't heard of that in a long long time. And i don't know if. I give the guy marks what what does say to me. The reason i was intrigued by this story. Is you get fired. And then you're gonna go running into the office saying okay. Well where's the settlement here whereas my severance and They say no so. A lot of people would take to social media stevie and just say get this. I've been treated unfairly and take to their twitter instagram facebook. And all that stuff to to show how passionate this guy was. He was really beating the drum of loyalty as an employee that he goes right to that one flannel right to the hunger strike and i said you gotta believe the guy you know i i. I totally believe what the guys say. I don't think it's a cash crap. I think it was a guy saying. Here's how passionate. I am about being that great employee with you guys in dedicating the last fifteen years And golf pro. Stevie they go way beyond the duty of of you know the money they make. You know i can't. I can't tell you how many times i've seen pros community early to work to teach stay late Spent so much time with members. And all that but i i thought it was way to go way to go. He's forty six years old so not a kid But i mean he obviously based on all the reading. I i did about this story i. It's like he was beloved by the members and He said they offered me no severance. There were so many layers. All i did was respond to a note. I was written to after being verbally abused for six months. And then it's just get out of here. They fired me. No process fairly. His wife is ill with a chronic. Intestinal disease is an eleven year. Old son that he supports. and so this was The the road he took over as he's presenting. And there's always two sides to every story sounds guys New guy this new head pro or whatever or the or whoever's harassing him sounds like there have been on the greasy side. Yeah yeah and he didn't go to a labor lawyer which a lot of them will do right and file a wrongful dismissal suit and all that stuff and you know. It's just one more thing that that i was impressed with this guy that he did you know and soak of anyway. I thought it was. I thought it was pretty pretty interesting. Story know anyway. he's easy. He ended the hunger strike they. They've they've raised five or six grand form so far so good story could ziani. Meanwhile there was a neat story as well Real heartwarming kind of a story and pertains of the ottawa senators. For those who don't fall the sense that most people who listen to this show but they have a rookie by the name of tim. Stutz ladies the third overall draft pick in the most recent draft. And he's been very good for the sins they could parlay his stats over a full season over eighty two games. He'd be a forty six point guy and for the youngest full-time player in the entire. Nhl that's hell season and it's only gonna get better. So he gets against winnipeg on saturday. He gets his first. Nhl hat trick but of course you lose something something in terms of the celebration because no fans to throw their hats on the ice and so not a tragedy no big thing really but it would have been kind of cool and so tim stood slush shares a townhouse with brady shock where a duplex with brady shock. And josh norris. Talk about three future superstar players all living together and I guess the neighborhood kids all got together. It was only i guess could check talked to a few neighbors and stuff and supposed to be just a few kids but it built it built all kinds of momentum and all these other kids showed up so it looked like maybe twenty kids all armed with about ten hats a piece right and they stood in the backyard of tim. Stitz lewis place right behind the fans and he came out. I guess could shock helped. Set all this up like i say told him to go outside and they absolutely bombed his backyard with ball caps. that that was a pretty cool video. It's gone quite viral on social media but need to see also not only a neat moment but also speaks to the leadership quality of brady shock in the thoughtfulness. That guy has a best story in a long time. You know i. I saw the bid. It's it's hilarious. Sounds like a waterfall of these poor. Kids can't even see over the fence as you said. We looked at whether he's only a couple years older than him. You know anyway. It's remarkable really cool. If if you put yourself in his shoes you know that would be better. I think than actually not only the kids doing this. But your you know your first hat trick is almost immortalized online now with this With his video. That's going to be out there forever on the internet. I'd say that this is better than the fans throwing their caps on the ice in the context of an nhl game. I i agree. I agree. well done. Well done ottawa. Done fans as you'd expect him stitch louis grinning ear to ear when asked about it in the media availability today. It was unreal. I mean talking told me at like at the neighbours texting him and that they will be just a neighbors and then there will already real nice of them that they the chucky and then suddenly the whole neighbour kits almost unreal and a great thing off them to do that and i was very very happy for that so and i can't thank them enough of the net stevie on a little side note. Who said townhalls who wants the townhall. Stevie who that'd be mark stone. Oh yeah and he's having a tough time live in Paycheck to paycheck. Tau nine million a year. Get come on the they're young. They're they're still making a paltry or something their entry level contracts and such. But brady's gonna get paid this summer this just in. He's his contract as of tonight expires effectively. Because you'll have finished is a third and final season in his entry level contract and the next time he picks up. nhl paycheck ole. There'll be a lot more money on it you know. Make it about a million roughly. I don't know what his bonus structure is but he's probably gonna be tapping in at about eight million dollars a year minimum. So that's a good little race and But you know it just reminds you that there's still boys i guess they're just the frat boys at this stage in their lives. You know. so they're having a good time. And i guess you live in life. Get out of the duplex villas. Okay and by what are they. Buying cars on auto trader to steve You know get the get into jockey. Okay get yourself a nice right. You got some cake right now okay. You're going to be okay. said sandy. So certainly those three great prospects for sure for the sins and guide the you know if you told me five years ago that he might be part of the picture there. Maybe even you know roommates with those guys would be longer logan brown. He was a first rounder. Back in two thousand sixteen and he just can't seem to stay healthy or impress the sense enough to get in the lineup training camp this year. Everybody thought okay. This logan browns time and he didn't make the team at a camp and so he goes down to the minors down the miners once again. This is he's been through five six training camps back down to the minors and get immediate. Immediate gets hurt and so he's finally healthy again just in time for the last game of the regular season and he's gonna play tonight and you wonder about a guy like that. I wonder if he wants to go somewhere else now. Just get a fresh start. His contract expires. He'll want to have a good account of himself for tonight's sends lay game. I feel like it's still be nice to resign. That guy the sends. You still have monday club control. He's not an unrestricted free agent. Give them another opportunity. Potentially comeback a healthy off season. Maybe a healthy start in belleville or whatever and Maybe there's still something there. He just hasn't been healthy enough to prove anything on a consistent basis well and they're gonna start to build this team stevie around i would think right i mean i really. I really liked the fact. They brought him brought him onto the team early. He's how old is he. Took twenty four nineteen nineteen years old So there might be good things down the road here for the sense i would anyway. I'd build it around. That guy would new out. No brady chuck would be the guy be building around. But tim sits will. Certainly be a big cornerstone on this franchise. And there's no question. Josh north might be part of that is well. That's the neat thing about the sense right now in that you have to be impressed with the team. They are at this moment but the really exciting thing is how many guys have what appears to be unlimited potential. And that's gonna be the fun part watching these guys. How good are they going to get. Some of them are going to be just good but some of them. A lot of the guys in the team have opportunities to be superstars that good the so many unpolished diamonds on this team. That i'm i fear. Sense fanny gotta be pumped all right. Let's take a timeout. Our final thoughts coming up. After these words everyone knows that to get the best price on home and auto insurance you have to shop around but who really wants to do that with access to all kinds of insurance markets not only. Can i get you the best price but also make sure that you get full value for your money call me. 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But i think it's great for baseball and i think the fans really enjoy it. It's exciting people are able to see both of the our personalities out there and baseball has gotten soft and he's being asked about the trevor bauer fernando tatis junior stuff. If you remember the twitter drama and the exchanges they had on the field each of them kind of mocking want. The other does out there. So i i tend to agree with them. What do you think well. I love it Because you went on further to say about it. All it was acceptable for so long that pitches can throw at batters right if they trash talk them or whatever or for whatever reason. The battery never doesn't think so. He usually out if he thinks intentional but he said that's old school. Now you know i. It's old school. If you don't need to do that i i love it. I love it be. His point is like who doesn't like to see it you know as a fan and You know the to beef it up a bit. I do know this tv that when you do have it. And he makes the point that it'll it'll create a of interest in games it'll create a lot of viewership from from fans if you do the bautisa bats you know or amongst other you know are the pose or the church as you run to first base on a walk or a home run and you glanced your left and go nice nice dry do right and people love that shit stevie they love it and it i think it is. I think it makes you know. Baseball's kind of boring steve right well and the most sensitive of all sports probably think about the bad flip and the exception. The texas rangers took the backflip. Like i mean. I know that. I don't know what the definition of quote unquote showing up. The opponent is but to me the bat flip was i think jose bautista. I mean granted. There's a little fu in there. But i think more it was a case of the fans are going insane is mates are going insane. I think it's most often. It's more of a of a celebration mode. You know unless you're doing air guns you jump up and down. You're doing air guns. The opposing pitcher. That's kinda showing guy out you know sitting there and watching your shot for a second. I don't think that's showing up the opposing pitcher. I think baseball is the most sensitive of all. Well look at. You know to compare it. I think syndergaard also went in on twitter. That he's one of the most vocal guys that he called like the. I think it was the pittsburgh pirates. You call them the shitty pirates. Oh oh yeah some stuff like that. Think think think of the ryder cup. Stevie golf with which has all the all the makings of a of a great event. You know really good right. High competition best players in the world. Everyone wants to beat the united states. Everybody wants to kick their ass right at all. Always always have the ryder cup is a great great deal right. We can i ask you about that. Why is that acceptable behavior at the ryder cup. But everybody would say it'd be tat totally taboo in a rank and file. pga event. why is it okay at the ryder cup. Well it's a team dealer rory and patrick reed Kind of started it where everyone was getting a little cupping. The ear steve. I can't hear you. You know the old one when you make ten footer. You make three pointer so it's great for the game. It is particular that event. You know. I like i like it brings a little something to to otherwise sport where you're not allowed to say anything you know. You gotta shake hands. You got a nod when the guy hits the good shot you can't you can't freak out when you when you make a good one and all that but i always everybody celebrate it. What okay if it's that good if it's that if it's worth celebrating what all this liveliness and cheering and excitement and rivalry that the ryder cup. As if that's also good and also entertaining. Why not allow it at more events. Well i it would only make sense stephen a playoff or something you know or or If it's just the two of you down the stretch in the field was five six shots behind or something like that. Going the back nine that you would have this right but it's it's totally different than golf. Because you're playing against seventy other guys come the weekend right you're You know what i mean. I don't think it would. It would work. You know getting him on camera and just made a thirty footer. Screaming dude made on eagle behind you you know. Now you're tied at all. I mean i decided as i can give you an example. If i'm a tiger woods fan and he's taken on rory mcilroy who have if i remember the gallery and i don't like rory mcilroy but i'm lovin me some tiger and i want tiger to win and i dislike rory the way i dislike the toronto maple leafs and why not being allowed to cheer against roy mcelroy. And i don't want. I don't think you want to get to a stage where you know. He heals one. And you're like i should. I don't want to get to a scenario where you're yelling in his backswing but if he does he'll one i should be able to go. Yeah i guess. Yeah i guess i mean the games always. It's always been based on the utmost respect for the game You know the that the game the players the players don't make the game. There's an honor system about calling penalties on yourself You're you're supposed to be polite You're supposed to congratulate the golfers when they make a good shot so it might be a bit of a stretch until you get to the right exact. That's why i've always. I'm always capelle by that. Everybody loves the ryder cup. All the behaviors and yet it's so verboten when it comes to any other event it's interesting to me away from the round stevia might be cool. Might be cool. You know That that you know steve. Warren and jungle were down the stretch. You know in the us open and and more ends up winning knocks into the ten footer to win by shot over jerome and then the next day on twitter ugo kicked your fucking c. I fans would love that. Absolute they would they would. And that's syndergaards point. I think yeah yeah. Bring it on. Bring it on for sure. But i think yeah and i think there's a there's all kinds of sacred things that need to be challenged now because when you're looking at you know what what the wheel the way the world is. Now it's different and were still applying the same ideologies to the four major sports golf and all the other great sports that are out. There were still applying the same nineteen fifties ideologies two things. When in fact you know people under thirty years of age. They think entirely differently now. They just want to be entertained. They just wanna be wowed by things. They liked the controversy and You know the the stoic nature that may all these major sports have still run by the old boys network. I think they're gonna lose if they don't evolve and syndergaards point the reason. He thinks that she should be okay. Is because we're the best in the world. Okay we're we. We played the highest level in our. And what makes the what makes everyone's so good okay is. Is there drive to win. Okay is there. I think even says not article that you wanna do anything to get the edge on the guy because everyone is so freaking good Rights we need a little something extra. You gotta get in the guy's face you gotta get into his head a little bit okay to to to win. And so he's using this as an example absolutely shit talk in his words. Give the guy the business because that's all we have sometimes right. You'll be you know. Could you come up against albert boo holes. Chances are you're gonna. You're gonna get rung up steve so when you when you strike them out given the business steve. Give him the business. I don't know if it gives you the edge but it certainly is entertaining for we the sports fans and We the sports fans. We're toast in this case calling it a day today. Any final thoughts as we head. Oh james Tortorella or talk at the crack could see tortorella. Yup yup for. Yeah i before before talking. Yeah i don't know the ron francis a bit of a librarian type. I'm not sure that he would be a fan of the antics. We'll see to do worse. I think he'd be perfect. But you know me steve. I've been wrong before but very rare. Imagine you could be wrong here for sure. Sit on that one today. Good listening. Good night everybody will see.

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"The whole sport sport is going full torture france. There wasn't a hot. Take down the sewer. The hot takes the sports world. Meet the numbers that proved them right or tear them down. Today is may eleventh twenty twenty one. and i'm seriously clear. The sports editor at five thirty eight joining me in new york. City senior. Sportswriter neil pain. Hi neal sarah. How's it going this morning just having some computer issues some issues with our with excel. You know all of my most beloved apps are just failing right now It's a tragedy. Yeah it's a greek tragedy. Pretty sure they dealt with excel crashing. Also i think you're i think you're right. I'm from los angeles. It's five thirty contributor. Jeff foster hi jeff. Hi sarah i just want to say I think neil has. I know you're having computer problems. But i think you have a fantastic mustache. Thanks joe that means a lot from you you you look like you look like a george perez former goon the anaheim ducks turn director of player. Safety turned malign. Nhl officer yeah. I'm pretty sure the rangers sent something asking for me to be removed from this. Podcast also strongly worded letter. Amazing You guys we have to talk about horse racing. Which i know. We don't normally do once a week away from the conductor. We thought this had become a horse racing. Podcast according to review. I mean we do have to preview the preakness sure but become every week. Yeah for sure. No bob baffert So all right so there was a positive drug test on his kentucky. Derby winning horse spirit again still Now they're still working to confirm that so. Maybe that will be all resolved by the time. This podcast is out. But bob baffert went on fox news and blamed the test the positive test on cancel culture. Yes and i have days house though just on top of that. Just just a just to fully flush out this story. It's important to note that our former president trump did refer to the horse as a junkie. A right which kind of is interesting. Because it does not fully align with baffert and fox news. He kind of went after the horse. It is a strange in general to call a horse. That's being injectable drugs a junkie but we won't get into the practice you don't know the horses intense it was teen into the medical tent and grabbing the prescriptions right. That's the very least. I saw kirk domke. Or whatever the mets clubhouse attendant go in sir. No it's so strange though it's like he he's arguing both things both that they'd never used that drug on the horse and then also that this cancel culture run amok ed. No sense doesn't make sense and also like i mean. He's like advocating that. There's some kind of conspiracy. I guess like someone sneaking in and trying to sabotage his horses which seems pretty devious if his opposing trainers are doing that overnight and only to him He has one more than than them. So maybe that's why it's sour grapes or whatever but courtesy might be a great. You'd think there would be high security at these stables or barnes or wherever they keep these horses but whatever but what. I think is really funny. Is he saying. There's a conspiracy against him. But there actually was a conspiracy to protect justify one of his horses who ended up winning the triple crown in two thousand eighteen in which the kentucky derby allowed him to run even though had knowingly failed a drug test and they sorta like slow played it and then change the rules behind closed doors according to reporting from the new york times in a way that suggests that perhaps baffert's horse was gone. There was a conspiracy that was proffered. So it's kind of interesting the now he's claiming there's a conspiracy against baffert when all evidence points to the sport of pulling strings for him in the past in. Normally you know as you know. I am a proponent of cheating but this kind of cheating is bad because they're masking injuries to horses and that's where you know if you if you yourself want to you know. Do whatever fine but you can't. You shouldn't do that two horses. I'm just barry. Bonds could consent to shifting putting the cream on. I guess medina spirit did not consent unless he is the junkie that president trump says. He is the whole sport. The sport is going full toward france in that it feels like it's imploding. Full toward france. I'm pretty sure this. They have this signature moment. It won a long wait for a triple crown american. Pharaoh when's the triple crown in two thousand fifteen and ever since then it's just been bad news after banners. Well we'll find out more about what happens there before the preakness on today's show. We'll talk about the los angeles angels dropping albert pools and what this means for his baseball legacy. Then we'll take a look at the wnba which starts season this friday given that the atlanta dream don't have a permanent head coach or general manager. Thinks should be interesting and finally we'll take a deep dive into date with a rabbit hole of the week. Last thursday the los angeles angels announced that they had designated albert pool for assignment. The forty one year old was in the final year of a ten year. Two hundred forty million dollar contract. It's not yet known whether pools will land somewhere else or retire. Just thirty three homers. Shy of hitting seven hundred. What is known is how basically everyone in baseball feels about the contracts. The angels gave rules back in december. Twenty eleven before his age thirty two season on the athletic baseball show. Ken rosenthal was asked. Where in retrospect the contract ranked among the worst moves of all time and if any player could rival pools as the holder of the worst contract. It's not the most glorious competition but that player is bill. Cabrera very will could meet the same fate as who holds at some point. He signed through two thousand twenty three his original deal with the tires or second deal the tigers eight years two hundred and forty eight million dollars so he has this season in two more remaining and right now so that tire period. He's at four point six war so that's even less than pools did over his ten years with the angels now granted. It's fewer seasons but it's not like mickey's putting up three or four win season right now. There are negatives and he's off to a horrible start as well so people might say okay. Well let's is never signed. These guys. Long-term i don't agree with that. There have been some good long term contracts. Surprisingly enough with pitchers. Mike mussina was one. Max scherzer right now is another one. He has probably exceeded i. Probably he is exceeded the value of his seven year. Two hundred ten million dollars deal. Which all kinds of deferrals. In as well and i believe that we're going to see some of the younger stores who have signed contracts in recent years. Bryce harper manny machado fernando tents junior because. They signed at a younger age. The teams will get more value out of those deals than they might have with or without approvals sign when the radio thirties. Neil you've looked at players who made a hall of fame case for themselves later in their careers. Do you agree with the adjusted lesson. Here that long-term deals can work as long as you sign them before you're thirty. Yeah i think that's right. I think if you look at the history of the big contracts and you kind of assess how much value the player added relative to how much they were paid. you do see a pattern emerged. And this is something that i found when i grabbed the top one hundred biggest contracts of all time according to sport-rock spa track however we chosing choosing to pronounce that. Anyway when you look at those and you try to look at like who got value out of it based on position in age. I think those are interesting splits because pre like batteries that signed huge contracts before the age of thirty tend to get way more value. They're they're they're much more valuable relative to how much they were paid. Then batters that sign after thirty. Who were the worst contracts. And that was sort of the albert holes situation where you already had seen signs of decline with In his final year with the cardinals at age thirty one and then he goes on you know going into his age thirty two season signs. This massive contract. I think many people at the time were saying. This is going to not just end poorly. But it's going to go poorly thing and that's something that i think we kind of that that gets mixed up in the messaging around these contracts is you know all of them are going to look bad probably by the end in terms looking at how much a player is making it. How much they're producing. But it's really about the total amount of money that's paid in the contract and kind of that per year average versus how much the player produces on kind of a yearly basis over the course of the contract and pools as definitely as in the conversation for the worst. Ever what. I thought was interesting about the splits though. Is that for pitchers. It's a little bit. The opposite where pitchers that sign contracts before aged thirty. Actually look a lot worse than pitchers that sign contracts after age thirty and there may be something there about just. We've i think we've spoken about this with pitchers before that. This idea that durability is something that you kind of prove early in your career. So if you're like a max scherzer and you've proven that you can actually pitch a lot of innings after your age your early twenties. I guess into toward your thirties. Then those guys tend to hold up pretty well. I mean you look at other guys like randy. Johnson justin verlander until like recently a lot of those guys maintain their value deep into their mid thirty s or late thirties. And so in some ways giving a pitcher contract early you expose yourself to like. Oh we're not really sure about this guy's durability yet it's still kind of up in the air whereas definitely giving the batter's the contracts early tends to give you more value and that's why the largest contracts now that are on the books i think actually each of the top eight contracts in terms of the largest value. We're all signed before age thirty and that includes your bryce harper. And you're mookie. Betts in your mike trout and and you're not Is sort of the most extreme of that signed at age. Twenty two but those look like good bets and they're already kind of paying off better And and obviously you would expect. The contract looked better earlier. Because you're getting more of the prime years but that's also part of the point that somebody made the point that by the time pool holes was in year one of his angels contract. Mike trout would be in like five or six of his contract in terms of like the age versus the duration. And so you're getting more prime years also when you sign a position player especially earlier on and i think that's the lasting legacy in some ways of of pools and not just him but like miguel cabrera and the second era deal and a lot of these deals that really aged like milk Because they were signed with players. That were that were old. Frankly yeah you know. When the when the braves when the young braves stars acuna and albee's when they signed their big deals there was some like blowback from players that they were signing these long term too early and they were kind of hurting the lake free agent market for older players. And yet you can see that as a reaction in some ways to the kind of deals that that whole send and cabrera signed that teams are looking to lock up young great talent and that does kind of make sense. It's just a different kind of approach to it than we were used to. And i understand why older free agents are thrilled about that but they should be mad at out approvals. Not at but you could say older. Free agents are making it bad for older free by non-performing on the field. I mean like. I just don't think we're gonna see just based on last few offseasons. I don't think we'll see a big deal like the pools deal to a player that age ever again. in the angels defence. I will say it was very competitive. And he was the best player in baseball at the time. And i think. I don't think they thought they were going to get the full ron of the contract even at the time it sort of. That's sort of what you do. You make these guys want big contracts so you kind of have to make a long contract to land the player you know. A of reminds me of when the mets got patron martinez at the end of his career and they gave him like four years and it was just very clear he was not going to be good for four years. But it was kinda like we'll take the two good years and then the two sunk costs years because it's still worth it. He's that good right now. The problem of pools is that he was never right that good right now. It almost seemed like the decline started the second he got to los angeles and i think they really were not expecting that. Two thousand twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen to be as unproductive comparatively as there were. Yeah i mean it is. It's a sad way for a someone who was a star Someone who did have a really brilliant start to his career. It's a sad way for it to end though. Maybe there's never any great way. You know right yeah there. Yeah i would imagine most great players out perfectly gracefully because it is such a lake paul's to hear him some of the reporting around it. He still thinks that he can contribute. Which is sort of flies in the face of his statistics. Not just this year but the past four five years but he still has that belief and that belief is made him out or pools in the first place so it is sort of. I think there's always gonna be that tension there at the end of a great players career where they're kind of the last to know right there when they can't do it anymore They're the last to admit it. We have seen players do it first of all. I'm outspoken and i really hate the around the country goodbye tour or the during his year memorial. Get giving tours. It wasn't just jeeter wasn't just theater. It was also sarah. We saw this ortiz for sure. We saw this with chipper jones. There are a handful of hall of fame caliber players who have been able to announce before the and actually look at the numbers of of chipper jones rivera ortiz in particular like they tease great. That they were really really good there last year as they did. There is a way to do it in you go around and you get cowboy boots surfboards and asked from that the gifts from the opposing team in whatever sit tight maybe i remember seeing the jeeter thing in minnesota and i was like killing me with us like strange. We hate the guys. Come on at least give him like a passive aggressive type of gift. That would be a figure that it'll be an lessons here right. Like thomas defensive drills. Vhs hey here here's the here's something you need. Yeah also when. I'm interested also around like it does kind of make sense that the angels would do it this year but also it's the last year of the contract. You can kind of you know. There's not like a massive amount that you would need to like buy out but it is interesting that like the sunk cost fallacy. Definitely seem to play a big role in why they didn't do it earlier because as saying like it was pretty clear not just this year but really he's been a below replacement or generously at replacement level player since two thousand seventeen and so at any point in that you could have probably negotiated some kind of buyout And at least try to kind of move on. But he was in this weird little space between like being the face of the franchise and arguably the face of baseball. If you look back to the previous decade and so it's like do you cut that guy. He's not performing. Maybe you're holding out. Hope that he can kind of rediscovered. He had a lot of injuries. So maybe each time it was sort of like. Oh well he's rehabbed. He's maybe feeling a little better. He probably felt like he was in the best shape of his life. Every spring training because every player does And so you know you could tell yourself that it just makes sense to kind of keep him around but it really is. I think also the sunk cost fallacy of. We're paying this guy and we we're gonna pay him to go away. Well no he's you know he's being paid this much. He's going to be hitting in the middle of our lineup every day. Even if that makes mike trout not make the playoffs. That's the thing about baseball right. You always think you can turn a corner. I mean who. If you're you know you can be the worst team in the league and still have a chance to win a game. You always all got to do is put together a little run rate as a team whereas a player and and it's hard to let go of that of that idea even when it doesn't make sense financially or with the bigger picture you know the cost benefit. There is not isn't there and it hasn't been there for a while. And and i think another factor is that the power relatively like kinda hung around so it makes it tantalizing. Makes you think that players still is still possible. You know the player you you signed onto But at the end of the day like getting twenty. Three home runs on six hundred plate. Appearances is not that really that impressive right. Ninety one and twenty in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. You know it's not like what twenty three home runs was. Yeah twenty years before thirty years before now this year it might be great all. He's a weird. His decline is strange. Because you know the power seemed to stay there but he never was like one of these hitters. Still doesn't strike out very much. He just kind stopped walking getting on base and yet not striking out more which it just as sort of an unusual you know set of factors. Usually you would expect the guys strikeouts to go up and Maybe his walks to go down but it just like he always could make good contact. He just kind of lost the ability to get on base in other ways besides hitting. And i think that's a big for i and especially that's why you look at his rates desks. The ob peach falls off a cliff. Second gets to l. a. All right so say. The phone doesn't ring here. Nobody takes a flyer on on what remaining power he has. What is his legacy. How will we remember albert pools when this is all said and done. I think he's definitely hall of famer and that even if it was built off the bulk of the early part of his career that early part of the career is one of the best. We've ever seen anyone have especially the first decade because he hit the ground running. I mean he had a ten thirteen opie s at age. Twenty one i can. Maybe put that in air quotes. I know. there's no questions about how old he actually was. when he debuted. But trusting baseball reference twenty one. He had three twenty nine at thirty seven. Home runs ten thirteen. Ps one rookie of the year and it was one of the best fielding first baseman too. I think we forget that also during his prime in saint louis and he just played at that level or higher for a decade straight. So i think we've never seen someone really at their peak. Seldom have we seen. Someone played that well that soon and sustain it throughout their first decade in baseball. So i think it'll be a little griffey like where the more time that passes the more we forget the sort of broken down you know decline phase even if that was kind of the back half of both of those guys whole careers. And instead we remember the the brilliance of when they were younger and their peak numbers and eventually will sort of acknowledge that pools is not just a hall of famer but like one of the inner circle hall of famers. I agree. I mean it's just the raw counting stats alone. You know. thirty two hundred plus hits these almost as many hits in his career is willie mays six hundred sixty seven home runs. I mean the the if you kind of forget how it ended the scope of his resume and the things he's done on the baseball field especially in that ten years is is is rarefied areas first ballot hall of famer. So i think at the end of the day you know the good thing about the hall of fame is that you gotta wait a couple years and i think by the time we're giving our speeches. No one's going to be talking about our speeches. I'm not giving a speech unless albert. You're listening. I'm happy to give you a speech even though i'm not a cardinal fan or have any affiliation with the club we do live in l. a. Where he played you know not really anaheim county. I do far away yeah. We haven't really talked about his age. And the the controversy about how old he actually is. Which i do. I sort of wonder if you know if if that had never happened and he was. We knew his true age at the beginning of that contract. Probably that contract doesn't get made then either. And maybe that's for the best for him for his legacy. You know this. The last ten years have not really helped his legacy Because of that contract. So i wonder if that if that would have been different too. I think you're right though that in the end this won't really matter will remember him for what he did at the beginning even though his his twenty eleven year in saint louis i mean they won the world series as nail said earlier. Which you know that's important to people who are Pursuing players on the free agent market but he also finished fifth in the. I mean his numbers. Were down especially that you know. Oh bp the average and some of those things were you know you did see some signs that maybe a decline happening. I think like everyone else. You could also write that off as a as kind of just down here. But he also finished fifth in mvp mvp voting. I mean he was and had done the post season he added five. Yes in the post season that year. Every he was he was the best player in baseball in so would have got a big contract. I think anywhere. I just i want for albert holes. I want for him to be able to admit his age in his retirement. I want him to to feel free about that now. In the rest of more five years old baseball career older than ricky henderson. Yeah just just be yourself. Don't you don't have to hide for anyone anywhere all right. I think we can leave this year for now. Let's take a break and then we'll come back to talk about the wnba. The wnba season starts on friday but there has already been a fair amount of drama in the lead up to the regular season. Injuries have rocked the league. The las vegas aces lost six time all wnba forward angel mccoughtry who tore her. Acl in a preseason. Game and minnesota lynx. Ricky rene davis is out indefinitely after suffering a stress fracture in her foot. There have also been some interesting transactions. The chicago sky abruptly traded gabby williams to the la sparks after first suspending. Her for the season reportedly over her plans not to play for the sky before the summer olympics but maybe the biggest news came from atlanta which drafted march madness breakout star mcdonald but is down both general manager and now a head coach nikki. Colin traded the dream job no pun intended for the chance to run baylor's women's basketball program on the lockdown women's basketball podcast are thirty. Eight colleague howard mcdowell talked about why the move made sense for colin. You don't Major great head coach bail. I believe a real fit a real understanding for how the college game works a lot of the reasons that we talked about why. I thought she was going to do so. Well in atlanta tended to carter's in year two area mcdonalds a rookie and the idea was well. This is somebody blonder stands the mind to. The employer understands how to get pieces to fit together. This is the types of finish that if anything to move sure for even better at the college level so this move and the timing of it coming just before the start of the wnba season obviously pushed the dream in a little. Bit of a bind. Mcneil do you think baylor was just a better fit for collin or does it say something about the wmba. That coaches are going back to that college level. What yeah i mean. I think the the baylor job is probably like one of the best jobs in women's college basketball and so if it had been some other school that came knocking. She probably wouldn't do it. I mean i don't have great insight into what her decision making process was on that but it does seem like i kind of agree that if you stay with a dream their projected to not be all that great. I mean you know they could be kind of interesting but it. It's kind of a developmental type of role whereas if you go to baylor team just came off of very nearly going to the final four. They were champions a couple years ago. So this is one of the best programs in women's college basketball and presumably you can kind of build on that success and when right away and keep winning for a long time just based on how long can mulkey was there. So i kind of see that as being more of the factor of just sort of like would you rather be be in a developmental kind of you know rebuilding situation in the pros or would you rather go into like a really great situation where you can win right away and win for a long time in one of the prestige college programs. I think that's right. It's very very unusual for a job like this. Baylor job in both the women's side in the men's side to open up generally if you're a coach of one of these programs that's been consistently good for while anyone three national championships. You stay there indiana. Yeah you know you look at like how long pat summitt was there. How long tear vanderveer's been there. How long coach k.'s is been in that job. Which is sort of in the ballpark of equivalent job on the men's side You don't go. Because the the program is kind of recruiting itself at that point. The things countable autopilot. You're getting all the best players you're not out there. You know in insane overnight in people's houses trying to scramble for the the you know a a three star prospect or something like that and competing with all these other schools. The best players come to you so the most difficult part of the college job is a little bit removed from the equation which is the recruiting That being said it was unusual. Kim mulkey obviously connections lsu in from louisiana. So you know having won another national championships. It was time for her to go back to her roots. There's a you know and that only happened recently. So it's it's a rare set of circumstances that. Open this job in the timing. Obviously with the start of the wnba. It's not ideal but at the same time the job not to be open in a couple of weeks so yeah. I'm sure she wasn't happy with it. Yeah now i do wonder like. I don't have numbers to back this up. But i'm curious what you guys think where. I do think that in women's basketball college the college level is closer in prestige or popularity or just you know what people would be excited to be associated with To the pros then on the men's side where sort of college programs unless maybe it is like. Hey if the duke job came open so there are a lot of nba coach. Mike go for that but but it does seem a little bit like the college level is more on the same level of interest popularity prestige as the pro level on the women's side than on on the inside. I don't know. I feel like maybe this is wrong but i feel like for both both men's and women's basketball i there's there are people who are pro coaches and just want to coach pros don't want don't want it i mean don't you're right in the in the baylor case is not the recruiting is just not as much of an issue. But don't wanna deal with recruiting. Don't want to deal with kids. Don't want to deal with the immaturity and the lake. The you know teaching kids want to deal with professionals and then there are some people whose who have a heart for for students and wanna be around students. And don't really wanna deal with the egos of the program. I mean you see out sometimes with coaches a for both men and women who go kind of back and forth between college and the nba collagen and the wnba I think caroline pack who you know led purdue a national championship coach then for the orlando wnba team and then went back to college. I feel like it's not. I think that this wouldn't this wouldn't be quite so dramatic if it hadn't happened like right before the season started and that's just a function of How where. The wnba season falls in the college kind of calendar that it's different in the nba because the nba season is more closely aligned with college basketball. So you're not gonna usually see some. This happened so fast. That's a great point about like the nature of it. Being almost like opposite on the calendar probably played like a rather large role also. Yeah i mean you know there. There's so lindsay gottlieb Just was hired to coach. The usc women's basketball team away from an assistant job in the nba. Which you know that. That i mean and it was just an assistant. Not a head coach. Obviously but that didn't like no one was like. Oh my god. She's leaving the pros for college. You know when no even care to pay doesn't accept that oh cool she's going to coach the So i do think that. Just the timing and the like the the kind of bind. It left the dream in like also also in nikki. Holland's defense they don't have gm it is a little bit of a messy situation for coach. So it's not that's it wasn't like the ideal situation And of course. I mean the team is going to be younger and struggle a little bit so i i do think there's it kind of looks bad but i'm not sure it was really indicative of anything i've maybe that's no. I think you're right. I think some coaches are better equipped just by the nature of their personalities. And how they work. Young players are better equipped for college and others are better dealing with professionals. And those sets of egos in personalities that come with it That being said. I think it's probably appealing you know you look at the lisa smith. Who is what's going to be number one overall in a year in in having a someone with that wnba experience and also in the recruiting base for a top prospect saying. Hey i been in the. W may i make the number one pick. I know what they want. that's good. You know that sort of a california has been doing for years is like recruiting players by saying you wanna be a top-five. Nba pit. Come come join my team. I i can get you there and that. That's that's exactly what he's done. Nothing else nothing that nothing shady at all just no woman in terms of being able to get these players. I mean it is. It is a big selling point. If if you're a high school basketball player and look at the dream. It's a mess. i mean. Look what happened with that team. That the irony of ironies That you would think when her players stood up to the owner During the last summer. kelly laughlin and all that with the black lives matter in. She had their back and you. There's another time that would have been career suicide in. That probably helped her get this job because that earned so much respect among the players in in young players and and just to take that stand along with her her team and not be you know fall in line with management Is impressive yeah. I do wonder if that helps her at baylor. I mean baylor is a ghetto. Well kim mulkey got herself in trouble with outside of baylor by standing up for baylor and their problems there i. It's it's an. It's an interesting place and i do wonder exactly how nikki calling will fit in or how much How much latitude you'll have there. Are you saying the waco texas of it all. I am saying there from saying yeah. Yeah so it is a different different kind of environment All right well so setting aside the dream for a moment I wanna talk more. Broadly about the league because we have very exciting news. That are hot down. Listeners are are getting early so tomorrow we are rolling out. Wnba predictions on the site for the first time we built a wnba model and with Predictions for games and for. Who will who will win at all. to new. Could you talk a little bit about what goes into making a new prediction model and if anything is different about this wnba model from the other leagues that we cover. It's pretty similar to what we've done for other leagues just because that's a proven formula. That does a you know. We think it does a pretty good job I would say probably doesn't beat vegas and not the las vegas aces and In predictions but it it you know kind of gives you a snapshot of how strong each team is at each time. And so yeah. It's kind of the next logical sport for us to add was the wnba going into the season. And so my colleagues j. boyce and ryan best. They they built a model. They gathered data. Going back to nineteen ninety-seven the start of the wnba and just sort of built it. It's it's similar in the way that we started out with football and with baseball and some of these other ones the nba model is a little bit different because it uses a player ratings whereas this one is not going to be that you know it's not going to have like injuries necessarily show up in the same way It's kind of similar to football. Where like you have to give it a little time to to to show up in a team's performance if someone is out but it does take into account you know all the usual like homecourt playoff bonuses where where we found that team favored teams tend to do better in the playoffs than they do. In the regular season we we also an interesting difference was that wnba teams kind of things reshuffle. More during the off season. I think this is a great illustration this this particular offseason was a great illustration of that was a lot of players on the move a lot of players who sat out last year. Coming back Maybe a lot of players who were injured also Returning and so we found that in order to set up teams preseason rating in the wnba regress to the mean by fifty percent Which in baseball and football that numbers only thirty three percents Roughly a third. Which i found interesting that difference in in how you kind of set things in the preseason but aside from that it's very similar to the other models and then we simulate out the season one hundred thousand times and track how often each team wins and you know since it is low on last year Kind of regress to the mean. The storm who really think not enough with said about how historic the season that they had was last year. The only lost four times all here. They're peaky low rating By the end of the wnba finals was the second best ever only trailing the two thousand houston comets and so when you regress them back to the men and then simulate the season they still have a thirty three percent chance of winning the finals According to our preseason model but of course there's a lot of things that have changed especially with that team which went on a crazy flurry of trades in like a week's period. They traded away some of their best players. Had the number one overall pick then traded the number one overall pick for other players like it was a very strange off season to see from the defending champs. And so i think that's why there's a lot of uncertainty also in in the model going into a new season and stuff like that can in the wnba. Yeah so the the storm are we give them a one in three chance of winning at all which is like feels really high but also they're really good so make we give them a better than fifty percent chance of making the finals Which is kind of wild. And then we've got the aces and the sun right behind them. Which also sort of like. That's kind of what. What last year sort of look like Followed by the sparks. The links this. I think this is gonna be really fun to be able to track these teams like this And and see the ebb and flow of season from this perspective It's something that. I really love about our other models getting to watch a team rise and fall based on what's happening in and changing our expectations about a team throughout the week throughout the season which. I'm really i'm really excited to do so. Those at those predictions will be live on the site tomorrow. Which were super excited about. Neil has a story explaining them. All you can read neal's words about the model tomorrow as well all right. Well we can take a break right. Now we'll be back in a moment for a rabbit hole of the week at five thirty eight. We often find ourselves falling down various rabbit holes of data some to stories some. Don't we end each week. Show with one of those dissents. The hot take down rabbit hole of the week. What do you have for us neil. Yeah i'm going to return to the ice to talk about hockey Which i feel like hockey podcasts. Yeah for for all those. I tunes reviewers. We've become a hockey podcast officially in the final few minutes so so leave your reviews accordingly. No i want to talk about mcdavid of the edmonton oilers. Who is having just one of the most ridiculous seasons. I think not just of any hockey player in recent memory but any athlete period in recent memory so mcdavid. He currently leads the nhl scoring which he's done before he did it in two thousand seventeen and twenty eighteen. He has one hundred and two points well. He cracked one hundred points before he did it. In two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen in two thousand nineteen the difference this year though. Is that in those previous years. There was an eighty two game schedule. What's the norm for the nhl in most non pandemic seasons this year though the nhl schedule is shorten to fifty six games. He his team has only played fifty. Four games The north division had some issues with Cove it earlier so there. They're a little behind In terms of their games played compared with the rest of the league anyway mcdavid. He's got thirty three goals and sixty nine assists for one hundred and two points in fifty four games the idea that someone could reach benchmark because one hundred points is like this magic number in the nhl. Where if you reach that you are having a really good offensive season. Usually leads the league. If you're at that or a little bit above that there have been some seasons Particularly during the dead puck era of days gone by aka my childhood in which no one scored one hundred points. The league leader would be in the mid to high nineties. And there was a lot of hand wringing around that. But i don't think anyone thought going into this season that someone could actually crack one hundred points in a fifty six game schedule and if you had to guess who it would be yes it would be mcdavid but just the sheer pace that you would need to do to do that. You would need to score one point seven nine points per game which over a full two game schedule would work out to one hundred forty six points which was something that no one had done in the nhl. an long time the highest that we've seen was nikita kucherov had one hundred and twenty eight points in the twenty one thousand nine season and that was a lot. That was the most by someone i think going back to like the ninety. Oh no yama yager head. One hundred and twenty three in two thousand six so that was like you don't see guys scoring one hundred and twenty points in a normal season under current in h. l. conditions much less in a shortened fifty six game season. So the fact that mcdavid has done. This is really like you can't. It's hard to overstate. What an accomplishment this is and again he's not done yet There were kind of questions of whether he would even get to one hundred. You know a couple of weeks ago not only has he done that but he has surpassed it and with a couple of games left. He still has some room to pour this on. So i think one of the big questions with this now is just. Where does this rank all time in terms of historically great seasons. It's something that you know again. If you're just looking at the most points anyone has ever scored in a season. You probably won't and you don't know the context around this year. You won't necessarily understand the magnitude of it. For instance one hundred and two points in a season is only tied for two hundred twenty first all time on the list of greatest scoring seasons in the history of hockey. You know it's something that has been it's been done before by many players. But what i think is more useful to contextualized. This is to look at what hockey reference has They call it adjusted points where they take into account schedule. Length they also take into account roster size This is more of a factor for earlier years where in theory players who played a larger share of the game with should see their stats sort of decreased a little bit because they more opportunities and then also they take into account and then this is big is the scoring environment of the season in which the the numbers were put up and the nhl right now The average goals per game is two point nine three. That's a lot higher than it was a few years ago when mcdavid came into the game but there have been some seasons like in the nineteen eighties where teams are scoring almost four goals per game. That was not a coincidence. When wayne gretzky was sort of putting up his his numbers at his peak like two hundred and fifteen points is the all time record that he did in in one thousand nine hundred six so hockey reference tries to kind of account for all of that and adjust every player to a neutral environment both in terms of scheduling and in terms of scoring environment. When you do that you find that mcdavid has hundred and sixty eight adjusted points this year which is tied for the third best ever and i should also put a little bit of an asterisk on the number one and the number three the other guy tied with mcdavid which were done by howie morenz and Cooney weiland because both of those guys did it in the nineteen twenties Wieland's was in one thousand nine hundred nine slash thirty And it was just. I don't know how to necessarily contextualized the game as it was played then it was a very long time ago almost a hundred years ago. The only more recent season that rates higher than mcdavid twenty one was wayne gretzky. One hundred and seventy adjusted points in one thousand nine hundred six so mcdavid is only two adjusted points. Shy of gretzky what we could consider to be sort of the greatest at least modern scoring season of all time when we adjust for all of the different contextual factors mcdavid is ahead of mariel amuse best season of one hundred and sixty five adjusted points from one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. He's ahead of the season which was nineteen ninety nine only one hundred and forty five adjusted points and really ahead of all of the other seasons in there. There's a anytime you're ahead of gretzky seasons and lemieux seasons from the nineteen eighties in any stat. Ever you are in territory where we're talking about one of the best if not the best seasons ever. So we'll see where mcdavid ends up like. I said he has a couple more games left. He could maybe bump up juice that one sixty eight number maybe make a run at gretzky. He probably won't make a run at howie morenz. Who was at one hundred ninety. I'm sort of arbitrarily choosing to maybe think about discarding that one when talking about it But shout howie great player of course but Yeah just the fact. That mcdavid has done this. I think is it might run the risk of being overlooked just because it has happened in this pandemic season. He's only playing against the other canadian teams. And so you could kind of make of that what you will but i think just on in terms of pure offense of production. This is the type of season that hockey hasn't seen in a long time. And i think the comparisons mcdavid has long been sort of compared with gretzky. Both because they played for the oilers starting out But also just as this generational type of prospect in the same conversation. As like a sidney crosby or someone like that but mcdavid has is having a better season than any of sidney crosby's according to this and really most of gretzky's also and that's like a huge accomplishment if you were to throw him into a flying delorean and set it for you know mid eighties inten. He would score to two hundred easel very easily. Yeah for sure. Given the specially the goalies back. Then i mean you watch some of those gretzky highlights where the goalies are so much smaller so much less well-padded and also so much technically worse. Yeah yeah it's like look kind make these it makes sense that gretzky scored ninety two goals in a season whereas like if you look at some of the just pull up the highlights of mcdavid this season and look just how little space he has to shoot at when he scoring these goals and still the fact that he's been able to do it and that's on top of obviously the assists in like the insane setups that he's done for for his teammates. It really is like on just another level. And i think it is fair. You could kind of make the case at least that. This is the greatest at least offensive season by anyone in in hockey history. I have this image now of comic david in a delorean going back to the eighties but taking the today modern like hockey padding and like ideas about goaltending with him so his team. Yeah so as team like has this amazing new goal scorer but also like the the modern Goalie technology and they just they just run away with it in the eighties and they they changed history. It's a very it's a retelling of back to the future that I think we should get made immediately guys. Although we do know from the terminator franchise that you can only take genetic material back in time with you. So it'd be a connor. Mcdavid would thought he would have the knowledge. Sorry sorry go up to grant fuhr and say hey wants to make get some bigger pad right right. Drop down to your knees every once in a while. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1691: Adios, Albert

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Effectively Wild Episode 1691: Adios, Albert

"Us off stir. Hello and welcome. Deb said sixteen ninety one of effectively wild event grass baseball podcast brought to you by our patriot supporters on the rally fan graphs and i am joined zoe's by the murga of the wringer ben. How are you worried about byron buxton. How position don't want to worry about better than he's only day day right now so no cause for concern is not sure hip strain day to day he ran the first base and had a awkward stride. Sort of like luis robert but not devastating up to this point. Just the hip strain not a torn hip flexor. I'm sure he'll be fine and healthy and be back soon. So yeah he's actually on the leaderboard you don't have to change the qualification setting. He is qualified for the batting title. At least as of today although maybe he won't be if he misses a few games but he trails only might trout among position players. So please let us see a full healthy barad buxton season health. Gods yeah we talked about not fully knowing our powers we need to get on it quick because if we can deploy them on anyone's behalf i think the buxton is a worthy recipient. Although as long as he is on the field he clearly does not eat our hope to be good. He is quite good all on his own but yeah. I hope that he is on the mend on the men's soon. Moreover these injuries. I think i think no more injuries. We should just have a rule it should be in the next collective bargaining agreement schiff yet. There have been too many. We talked about that the other day. There is just a ken rosenthal piece. That had more numbers on that injuries up again. But this is not one. I wanted in to add another loss to entreat. The twins lost that game in extra innings. Which means that. They're now owned seven in extras and oh and eleven in manfred ballgames and eleven eight in regular nine inning games. So that's fun yeah. It is You know if if anyone is gonna join our brigade funny. One is going to fight the fight when your time comes. I think that various representatives of the twins might be on board strange remains a strange season. Some things are starting to make a bit more sense. Right like You know the the yankees are only two and a half games out of the east and the razor two games out and the poverty are are half game out in the west and the dodgers are a bit behind them and surely we might have anticipated. That thought might arise but we'd probably didn't see the giants in in the number one spot. Some things are starting to work their way out but right now. Cleveland is the top the central and i. I didn't think that that would happen. Maybe at any point over the course of the season. So yeah it's it's a it's a weird one. I do like that. There are some some new strange and by strange almost seeming. We haven't seen them there in a minute folks in the fan graphs. Top ten when it comes to position player war kris bryant resurgent kris. Bryant is sixth. I guess technically jd martinez or tied for one point. Eight wins which you know like at this point in the season these guys are all basically the same guy but we have to rank things because we are ranking type. We are wrangling sorts and trai turner and cedric mullins. I i don't know if we we gave a gave baltimore the credit that well that some members of their roster deserved i think that i underestimated the degree to which they would have more than one fun guy so here. We are with cedric mullins. Centric months the second i apologize. Not cedric i. Who knows about him. Cedric wants the second various one point five wins so i suppose we should discuss the news of the day We're recording on thursday afternoon here after the surprising and yet also almost inevitable news. I don't know we can talk about whether it's surprising or not that the angels have designated albert who holds for assignment which amounts to releasing him likely so. This is the end of an era. The end of the albert holes in anaheim era and one would think although it's not official probably the end of the albert pool holes in the major leagues. This is something that i think is simultaneously. Suppressing and predictable. It's like i'm reading the. Mlb trade rumors post about this and it describes it as a shocking move and a stunning end to one of the largest contracts in major league history and it was shocking and stunning for a second and yet this is something. I alluded to the other day when we talked about the angels defensive issues and the fact. That paul's probably contributing to that. And not contributing a lot in a positive sense. And i sort of wondered. What would happen there with jared while shitting as well as he his and shohei ohtani holding down the d. h. spot and who holds just not producing on the field. This has seemed like something that we've talked about as a possibility for years and years. I mean there was definitely a point in this ten year. Deal where i thought. It was very likely that he would not last the whole time. And in fact i probably would have been surprised that he had lasted this long. This was probably not the only time we talked about it on the show. But i know way back on episode. Eleven forty which was november twenty. Seventeen jeff is speculated. About how long he would last and i think we kinda came up with early two thousand nineteen for when the angels might pull the plug holes and when they sign shohei ohtani the following month. I wrote a piece that was like this is great news for every angel except albert pools and whether that would accelerate the end of his angels career. I guess it's like you could think either this could or should have happened years ago or it shouldn't have happened at all because he's almost at the finish line of this contract but you know. He is in his fifth consecutive season of being a sup replacement level player according to war and really hasn't been an above average player since twenty fourteen. I guess so. It's been a while like he has not had a good season but he hasn't really had a significantly worse season than he has had lately or that he had last season. So it's both predictable. But also i guess just the fact that he was so close to the end you kinda figured well given who he is and be his standing in that clubhouse and the game and he's accomplished and his off the field charitable work in the fact that people seemed to respect him everything they just bury him on the bench or something for the rest of the season but a part of it is that he didn't want to be buried on the bench so that could have been what precipitated this. Yeah it seems that there was that played at least some rule at least based on earlier. Reporting. that's come out that. He was frustrated with how much playing time he was getting. I guess and you know. I can't really fault for that. If i were a hall of famer. I think i'd have a hard time letting go of the idea that i should be on the field. Every day and that a turnaround might be you know in the offing. And i don't know like pool doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who pulls his baseball savant page every morning and his life. Well my ex slugging is five fifty one and so a turnaround surely in the offing. But i guess if you wanna put some store in that there's peripheral suggestion that he should be producing a better than he has so far. And i think that what struck me about. It was the timing. If only because he doesn't he doesn't he clearly does not merit an every day spot. He does not merit a starting spot anymore. And i don't say that to disrespect the plane. Career put together in saint louis which remains like one of the best things that i ever got to watch even part of in my experience as a baseball fan but it seems like the amount of playing time he was due was likely predictable. This winter right like the angels have had a sense that he was going to be relegated to bench duty at the very best and so it kind of strikes me as odd that this was a move. That wasn't made much sooner right. That there wasn't some you know press conference this winter and they could've. They could've had him there with his family and they could've talked like you said about his long and productive career and his sure hall of fame induction and his charitable work. And you know they could have even. If it wasn't really a mutual decision. They could address it up that way and they could made it about spending more time with his family and being able to focus on his work improving the community and any number of things. I think that it's just you know it's like may sixth. And he's definitely a first ballot of famer and it just seems like while he isn't someone who deserves a roster spot right now. I do think that he is do some amount of dignity in the way he goes. And i think that this was a bit. This was on ceremoniously puts the most horrible way that we can describe it as this was like an unceremonious way to go out. It seems it seems very strange that we will look back and see that. Like not getting. Start against ryan yarborough. Hey was what did it right. That's that's weird. That shouldn't be part of pool says narrative and i know that it's really unusual. The guys get to pick their exits like the more i think about it the more sort of rare and special the the david ortiz farewell is rightly out. He was coming off a season where he had a one thirty nine. Wrc plaza need thirty seven home runs and it was clear that like his body was just not in a place where he was going to be proactive as a big leaguer for all that much longer and he got to do his farewell and he got to sort of make memories with fans in every ballpark and he got some boroughs and cowboy boots and all kinds of crap that i don't know if he still has it but in the moment like it was nice that that whoever thought you know what we should give this guy is some whatever. I don't know what he got. But i think he did get a sombrero because i remember writing about his retirement to her and being with that seems weird so anyway he got to decide and then he had a year where he three fifteen four zero one six twenty he had a 163 wrc plus he was worth four and a half wins like he just got to be david ortiz. One more time. And i don't think that a season like that was ever going to be in the offing for pool holes. But if you give anybody like a an opportunity to come out and tip his cap and give him a little something like it should be over. Pools like he never got to be handed. A big fish in seattle or whatever they would have handed him. Because you know there's there's fish there so like he never got a big fish and he never. I dunno like him not getting another opportunity to who knows he may yet another opportunity but as it stands now it seems like you said probably pretty unlikely that he's going to get a ton of playing time and now author or retirement. Tourist can be very strange and stilted and so it's just it's just a it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate way to go. And i don't think that he i don't know i don't think he deserves roster spot but i think he deserves better than this. So yeah i think it's a little weird. I do. see what you're saying. It is abrupt unceremonious. Would also say i mean the the dignified exit is a way street. You know the the player has to be willing to walk through that door rate. So i don't know how much to fault the angels for this. Maybe there will be subsequent reporting where we'll hear exactly how this went down. But you know i think some of the examples you're talking about. I mean yes. I think it's great. If you get a david ortiz chipper jones mariano rivera type exit where those players are still at or near the top of their games and game and they can go out on top and there's no question about whether they should be playing in starting and everyone gets to come see them but that is the exception to the rule. I think you know generally players. Don't go out on top because they want to keep playing if they are playing well and so you don't get that all that often and what you do get is players just declining and you know deciding to call it quits or not really having that choice and so i think it would have been nice. You know for the fans. I guess for the legacy of alpe holes if this had been more mutual if it had been the angel saying hey we just can't give your roster spot anywhere in potholes saying yep i understand i see my stats to. I'll just retire rate. And there's some precedent for that like mike schmidt for example. Like if that were it if if he were just willing and ready to hang them up and say i've had enough. Then you get that last game. And i'm sure the angels would have been amenable to that and you get the less curtain call and tip the cap and maybe some special moment everything. But that's predicated on paul's saying yeah. I'm ready to go and doesn't sound like he was in you know. I would hope that they gave him the option of that at least and so if he didn't take that option then i don't really know what the angels coulda done here because i think you know he has been not a very productive player for a very long time and i don't want to dwell on that aspect of pulses legacy rank gives short shrift to his greatness but it's inevitable to talk about both because his career is basically bisected where he had you know one of the best decades ever and then not very good decade treacly and he is unique among great players. I think in just how great he was and then how long he was not great and so it's hard to avoid that part of the whole story because there have been lots of players who've been great and then yeah they decline toward the tail end of the career but with portholes. It's like basically half of his career almost he was just hanging on. I mean certainly the last five years but even more than that really. He was not more the that an average player or so and so to have that long tail after such high heights. I think is pretty unprecedented. It's hard to avoid that aspect of historic too. Because it's just been so long. Since he was good like by the time he is inducted into the hall of fame. Deservedly it will have been more than fifteen years really since he was playing at that level. And so there's a whole generation of fans who lake saw potholes like that's there's always a generation offense who don't remember the players greatness but in this case there's a generation of fans who remember watching opera pools and seeing the great inner circle hall of famer alpert pool holes and it was just years and thousands and thousands of plate appearances. And you know. I think that probably in most places this would have happened to even sooner. It seems like maybe it happened now. Just because the angels finally have a replacement for him. Who's clearly better in. Jared wall shoes kind of playing out of position because pools has been holding down for space and otani. He's been teaching. And that's partly a product of the angels outfield depth and lack thereof as well. It's not like they have some star outfielder ready to go but given the separate placement level wars like theory. It should not be hard to improve upon pools. Frankly in the defensive issues. We mentioned. I i just i have a hard time faulting. The angels for deciding that this had to be done because you know it. It's not the only problem on their roster roster. It's not the only thing that has kept them out of the playoffs these last few years far from it but there is a point where you wanna field a competitive team. Maybe forty something alcohol's just can't be part of that and you know especially if he's not thrilled with being benched you know. It's a hard situation to navigate. Because you want this all-time great who like on the bench and not happy to be there. What does that do to your clubhouse dynamic. What is it through to just release him. That can't be good either. So yeah you know it's like i don't know that there's a graceful end unless the player is on the same page and says yeah. It's time for me to walk way. Yeah it is tricky. I mean it's an incredibly tricky thing to to navigate. And you're right. I don't know exactly how things progress within the organization why it wasn't tenable in december but became either tenable now compared for them now and kind of what the the tipping point was for them. I don't know how the clubhouse will respond to that. I imagine that we'll hear something of it. They are the only evening game today. So i imagine that a good deal of that broadcast will be about his release. But it's just stem. I imagine it's a really difficult thing because you there's so much ego bound up in your ability to do that job. While i mean we all have ego in our ability to do our jobs while and so few of us do our jobs at a hall of fame level at any point in our so i think it would take a very sort of daft bit of people management and a really trusting relationship between the player in the organization to to get that right and even then it might not be a thing that you can do without ripping the band aid so it is a tricky situation and i don't envy them having to find a way to have that conversation but it does seem like perhaps better expectations could have been set going in because for him to be seemingly surprised or frustrated that he wasn't getting more playing time than he is suggest that sort of where he stood in the organization was not maybe as well communicated to him as it ought to have been so that's too bad and you know there's been all this joking about how he'll end up in chicago with the white sox because of larussa or he'll end up back in saint louis as a way to say goodbye. I wouldn't be surprised if he signed like a one day contract with saint louis so that he could retire a cardinal but i also like you said if he is this frustrated that he's not getting playing time you know it wouldn't surprise me if he tries to look around to latch on somewhere because it seems like he isn't don so a shame people were making a lot of his i want to i want to share to stats so people. Were making a lot of the facts that our polos is. Currently he is not only the active leader. He is he his the leader. Maybe the all time leader for grounded into double blaze. Yes four hundred three right. Yeah yeah four hundred and three and that's not great to ground into that many but people were like making a big thing out of this and like the number two behind him. His cal ripken junior in the news. Evonne rodriguez and then and then. There's biggie which you know we're going to have to have this conversation again. Yes very soon and hats for a lot longer. 'cause good greedier. There are a number of years. Left enough contract. And then carl yastrzemski. And dave winfield and eddie murray and jim rice civic yes it is a measure but everybody calmed down and then that inspired me because i live my life in reference to a very select number of deities. I suppose inspired me to look at how many mike trout has and it's fifty eight. Da he's he's not even on this page at baseball reference. Like you know there's a lot of guys and so it cuts off at eighty with joel youngblood. And that's a name but yeah can't find my trout on here because he's using. It is a measure of of longevity as well as proclivity and that's why the top names are all hall of famer so sexually a distinguished group to be a part of because you have to have played forever to make it there so yeah i don't know i think it's such a strange career and i still can't quite figure out what happened to our pool. I don't know why he declined as precipitously as he did in the way that he did. And i know there's always been speculation and controversy about his age and all that but it almost doesn't matter how old he is. Her was because like no matter how old he was at any point. You wouldn't expect him to decline that steeply like the decline is more gradual. And so yeah you know if you're older than maybe it happened sooner but that doesn't mean it. It happens all at once the way that it did with him. And it happened in such an odd way. Where i remember sam writing about this for baseball prospectus back in twenty twelve and the piece was just like albert polls never walks anymore and the weird thing that i think is sort of not mentioned as often as it could be like the reason for decline like. Yeah he's had lower body issues and injury issues and he's obviously slowed down and everything but a lot of it was really just. his plate. Discipline fell apart like his last year in saint louis and then after that like he was always a disciplined selective hitter who walked a lot. And then you can just kinda draw a line like twenty eleven and after and twenty ten and before in his walk rate just like fell precipitously in his chase rate increased and exactly what to attribute that to because he remains a pretty good contact hitter by the standards of the league. So it's not. As if he i don't know suddenly lost his eyesight or something like eur eight doesn't strike out all that much by twenty twenty one standards even now he's pretty good contact hitter and he has retained some power. That's kind of all. He had going for him in the latter years here. So i don't know if it was a conscious thing like it was a mystery to sam when he wrote about it in two thousand twelve and too much mystery to me now but i think that was a big part of why he declined the way he did. And and so is a an interesting stat. I wouldn't call it a fun fact but bill james noted this back in march that it really is unique that pool holes got to the heights that he did and then fell far from those heights as he did. And the way that james put it was looking at batting average which you know not the most telling step. But i think in this case it is pretty eliminating and pool. Halls of course was a very high average hitter in his prime and he ended up. If this is the end at two ninety eight career and so james tweeted pool. Halls was actually one hundred. Eighty hits above three hundred. No other hitter was even half that far above three hundred and finished under three hundred. So i think it was the high water. Mark was at the end of the two thousand ten season. Who was one hundred. Eighty hits over three hundred. So basically he had a one hundred eighty more hits at that point than he needed to have a career three hundred average and he ended up all the way under three hundred and that decline is i mean it dwarfs anyone else's we as A testament to how long he played like the the longest. So that's a one hundred eighty hits and the second biggest decline for anyone who was over three hundred at one point in ended up under three hundred. Seventy seven for george davis who played from eighteen ninety to nineteen ninety one and then fred tenney who is in that same era but matt holidays sixty six while he moses sixty one mickey mantle fifty-seven day parker fifty six like you could put together the next couple of guys and they wouldn't even combine to to have that kind of decline which in a way it's a testament to how good pool halls was that he got as long a leash as he did during his decline phase. Like a lot of that was the contract. And the angels. I guess just not being willing to say this is a set cost and cut ties but also look at least for a while some legitimate. Hope that maybe he would regain that greatness that he had so you have to be a heck of a player to basically get a decade of not being very good and still have a roster spot because if albert pool halls had a different name and resume and contract and the same stats he would not have lasted nearly as long as he did so that was in a sense attribute to him although you know it sort of ashamed that it ended that way but i don't fault who holds at all for wanting to play as long as possible and still wanting to play like you know. I think there's something to be said for having the humility to recognize that. You're not the player that you were and that we're all mortal and we all agent in decline in some ways. So i wouldn't say be in denial about it but i'd also say he can play as long as he wants to play in as long as someone will let him play. But you know the contract entitled to a salary it does not entitle him to a roster spot in at a certain point you do have to justify it so you know it is kinda odd it might come down to ryan yarbrough and his whatever career six for nine versus yarbrough that it would have been easier to find spots rupaul's to play if he were like more of a lefty masher or something wasn't like he didn't have much of a career platoon split which you know. I guess he was good all the time when he was good but that made it harder to find a role for him. Now i think because it wasn't like you know his skills eroded against same handed pitchers but he was still crushing. Lefties or something. You know he wasn't doing that either. Yeah i imagine that it's you know it's hard when you on some level. He has to know that he has been the player hispan- over the last couple of years. And i imagine that actually in a weird way mix it harder to let go because you wanna go out on a different note you want to have it be a different moment and you want to remind yourself when you really you know young strong man who thought you were going to live forever and i remember. I looked up the piece i wrote. When ortiz was on his retirement where the back when i was still baseball prospectus in. He said. I wish i could play another forty years. But it doesn't work that way. And i imagine it's a lot easier to let in that reality when you can sorta dictate the course for yourself and go out on a high note and be able to say that you sort of give it your best and gave the fans something that they recognize that. It's probably a lot harder to do that when you feel like you're still grasping for something that resembles what you once were and the player that you once were and so i don't know i know that it's i don't wanna be like overly son's mental about it. I'm the one who keeps growing and pleading with the angels to put a five hundred team round. My dad already so. I don't think that you carry carry these guys just to carry him. But it's very human in. It's very relatable to still be looking for that and clawing for it. And it's like now you look back on his soul in based off and if you wanna put a sentimental narrative on anything it's like oh boy albert. You're literally running as fast as you couldn't. You couldn't get there. And that part of it's heartbreaking. So i don't know i'm glad he got his milestone moments. We still had opportunity even in the twilight of his career to celebrate big accomplishments. That i think when it comes time for him to be inducted in the hall of fame and we're kind of looking back on his career in its totality you know. We'll we'll focus on his tenure with saint louis and kind of player he was then and you know he produced eighty war time by fan graphs. Were so we'll look at that and go wow. I can't. it's amazing that he was able to do that. And then he'll have these special moments throughout his tenure in anaheim that that we can kind of pick out and i think that for a lot of people like the the less good times in los angeles will fade and will remember those milestones and. I don't know if that'll be true for angels fans. But i think it will certainly be true for the rest of us but in the meantime it's it's really too bad or knock at a sombrero. I did russell sambre in chipper jones. Maybe got us out all the farewell gift he got. Yeah so maybe. That's what i was thinking of. He did get well. I mean i was thinking of referencing it in the piece but i cannot for the life of me now remember why it in the peace at all but maybe it was chipper jones. He did get ortiz to get accustomed stetson from the astros and then a belt buckle and cowboy boots from the rangers and i wonder if those two franchises coordinated their gifts. I wonder if they're like we'll get him. The boots in the buckle you get in the stetson and then he can just walk around texas. Look like he fits right in you. Wouldn't you wouldn't want to stephens. That's ridiculous spare stettin now. Apparently the padres got him a custom. Surfboard it has for. That has his whole body on it. The angels got him a custom portrait of himself. Oddly a picture of him receiving the custom portrait prominently features our pool pools and then the athletic scott him a large bottle of cabernet and the article. I'm about it does not specify the volume of the bottle. But now i really wanna know. Was it like a very large bottle. Was it like a you know one of those lake novelty gift bottles on anyway. Well albert couldn't afford to buy himself some farewell gift. I guess if he if he wants to but yeah it was really a great gear speaking of it in the past tense here. It's not officially over. Although you know if he thinks that he's gonna find a starting tab elsewhere. I hate to break it to him. But i don't know that there will be any other rooms in the end. Yeah if he signs one of those sentimental you know retire. As a cardinal kind of contracts that would be nicer even if they let him play for a game and get some at bats. That would be fun. I just. I can't really imagine that any contending team is gonna put him in the lineup. Give him more playing time than the angels were willing to. And you know i don't know if he's even like a draw that some team that's out of it would signed him just to sell some tickets or have him chased the milestones or something. I i don't know what the heck are so. He may find that he can't do any better elsewhere. And i hope if that's the case that he's not bitter about it and that he's able to accept that he had a heck of a run so you know he's he sixth all-time in bore through age thirty and he will be passed by mike trout in short order there but still still be seventh all time and he is also eleventh all time in war through age. Thirty to age thirty was kind of his last great year age. Thirty two was kind of his last very good year. Eleven th time there and then the contrast is you know in war after age thirty. He is Two hundred twenty sixth all-time and in war after thirty two. He is three hundred. Twenty ninth all time and that is notable because he played for a really long time after each thirty eight thirty two. He's not one of these guys who like their career cut off by an injury or something is still going so he had a lotta time to accrue more in. Didn't do it but you know he was really incredible when he was with the cardinals and finishing top ten in. Mvp voting every single season. And i think maybe what we overlook is that not only was he one of the best hitter of all time during that time but he was a really good all round player just a great defensive first baseman and a good base runner and based steeler. And you know still sorta had those instincts at the end. Just not the physical skills but he could do it. All he really was just machine like which is how he got the nickname. I saw some speculation on twitter from actual news actual newsman actual news sorts that perhaps seattle would be interested in his services and i. I don't think that will happen. But i initially. That's wild why would they do that. And then i realized that evan white has twenty two. Wr twenty two pen. he's so first baseman. Yeah one forty one. Two of two to five high macci. I don't know what i'm trying to say. I'm making sounds serve making. Sounds like a good enough defensive for spaceman to make up for that. They will submit that you cannot anyway. You thought the angels were the only people who are going to be said about stuff today. Oh we're going to roll through the west all right so i guess that's our little baseball eulogy for albert pools if we don't see him again but this was a long time coming and it finally came and i hope that the angels will be a better team at least if they're gonna make this move. I hope they find outfielder. Whether it's brandon marshal joe adele or someone from outside the organization. I would really like to see my trap. Make the playoffs in shohei. Ohtani make the playoffs and you know you do have to surround them with a competent supporting cast and ever whatever his many merits and virtues and charitable activities was just not a great supporting cast on the field for the past few years. So i wonder i've speculated before that maybe the fact that he had some years where he was like really clutch and you know even though he wasn't a very good player in a context neutral sense he. He was kind of clutching. He drove in a lot of runs. And of course he's had mike trout hitting head of him and he had like good. Rbi totals even when he wasn't really a very good player anymore. And i wonder whether that helped prolong this too. But probably it's just you know lack of better options and just contract and salary and just recognition of what a giant. He is in the game so we can remember the better days. Yeah i am grateful that i am not like on sold or anything but i am grateful that i have like memories of him as cardinal. Because we've talked about this before. It's like i think a lot of ally us a lot of the much younger folks they just don't have them or at least they aren't clear in the way they are once baseball. Memories start accumulating after ten. Yeah and so. I'm very thankful that. I have memories of him as that guy because he was awesome stuff. All right what's answer a few emails here. And i guess we can stay on the topic of the angels for a moment. Mike asks baseball. God comes to you with the proposition. He will allow you to draft the next generational talent trike out in exchange. Your team will have a five hundred record for the next twenty years while you will never win a world series with trike. You will always have someone to root for. You will always have a compelling reason to watch games celebrate milestones and he will be the subject of numerous stat blasts if you don't take trike there no guarantees of your team's success you take this deal if you're a gm what about if you're a superfan so let me make sure i heard the straight against never better than five hundred. Yeah you you just have a five hundred record every year for extra five hundred. Not so bad. It's not i. I'm gonna sound like such a mariners fan when i answer this question. Well i'm a risk averse person if you're a gm. I think you don't take this right. I think that even the prospect of a generational talent if you're never finishing better than five hundred. If you're just a five hundred club you probably say no because there are gonna be there might be a fluky year worth. That's enough to get into the wild card. I guess there might even be fluky really. That's enough for you to proceed in the playoffs. Only do well but you're probably not gm for very long. If you have a generational talent. So i think if you're a gm the answer is obvious. No because you you can do a lot with good non generational talents so presumably you have more options and more pathways both to contention into keeping your job if you do not take trike. I bet there are human people named trike but they are they're young people named trike Try not to sound judgmental about that. You know that it's true. So that's one answer i think if you're a superfan the calculus is a little bit different because your relationship with the team isn't bound by whether or not the team wins. You don't have an employment interest. You just wanna root for a team. That is exciting. And if you have a generational guy it's probably gonna be exciting a good amount of time. Maybe not more often than not a good amount of time and Your odds of seeing a five hundred club kind of get their way into the wild card and go from. There are lot higher because again. You're not like gonna be out the door and five or seven years if it doesn't if it doesn't come together and coalesce so i think that you would be probably like sixty forty yes to know to take that deal if you are a fan because i think it's produced special to get to say that you're like a fan of the best player a generational talent like that's really exciting. Like i know who's jersey. I'm gonna wear for the rest of my life and i get to for that guy as one of my guys and that satisfying in a way that you know even being like a broader fan of the game and thus a fan of hopefully best player. You're not you know the relationship isn't quite the same as it is when it's your favorite team and he's the best guy in the game so i think yeah i think you'd say yes more often than not and you'd probably get a couple of postseason appearances and you wouldn't get a world series in all likelihood or you wouldn't at all right. Is that one of the professors of no world series. Well you wouldn't win. We might get there. That's exciting to and so. Yeah i think like sixty forty. yeah sure. Yeah it's tough. I think yes if yours the gm you definitely don't take saying adding immediately having the generational players while being five hundred gives you even less job. Security act makes more glaring. You've failed to feel the winning team while you have the the best player. So that's a definite. No i always wonder what these questions like whether you retain your awareness that you have made this bargain like do you remember that you made the steel because that almost changes it for me like if i know that my team is not going to win a world series for the next twenty years i think that would really sap much of my interests like it's not the only reason. Yeah but you didn't know the whole time that's turned out but it could have turned out differently. So that's what i'm saying like. If you remember that you made the steel in you can just right off the next twenty years. I think it would be hard actually to stay invested and really even if you have this generational player but if your memory is wiped after you make the deal and as far as you know you might have a better than five hundred team. So you're blissfully ignorant of the fact that you have no chance that makes a big difference to me and you know. Obviously many teams do not win a world series within a twenty year span. And maybe they have a better than five hundred team hopefully in that span but they also don't have this generational player. I'm not a fan. I don't have a rooting interest. But i have enjoyed angels games. Has you know more than i have. Enjoyed most teams games even over this period where they haven't been a great team. Just because i've enjoyed watching the individual exploits. So i think if you were to sum it up like probably they would be in the top half of routing experiences over that twenty year span like they would. Have you know as many wins as at least half of the teams over that span. And you'd have this great generational player and a lot of the other teams would have done worse and also would not have won. The world series would have not had the experience of of watching trae. Come out so i think you could do a lot worse but i think if you're aware of the deal you don't sign up for it because i think as many reasons as there are to watch baseball and as many different ways as there are to enjoy it like if you are a fan and you're someone who approaches the sport through that lens. You really do want your team to win. And it's hard to maintain interest if they don't and especially if you somehow know before hint that they won't. Yeah i guess you would want like bopped on the head so you didn't know because the thing is if you got bopped on the head and he didn't know and you have a generational player and you're like a five hundred team over the last couple seasons you're gonna go into the next couple seasons as long as that guys like the guy be like. Oh yeah we have a chance to win this thing and i think that that that counts for a lot like the feeling like you might be in. It is pretty meaningful to the fan experience. But i think you're yours is a good point that if you know for sure like this you're gonna get to watch this guy and you might get to see postseason action but you're definitely not winning the world series. Your experience of it might be pretty different although getting to watch the generational guy and five hundred baseball depending on your pre existing fan experience mites on really again just to pick a team like the mariners love my. You might be like. that's really yes. There is a point at which if you never win and you have this generational player than it does start to smart even more an almost taints the player's career. Like not that it makes it any worse a player but i think it is part of the legacy rate. It's like the you know. The ernie banks sort of career. Where it's like. Oh that's one of the more notable things about you. Is that while you never won. The world series in there many players in that boat many great players in that boat. But i think that kind of becomes part of your story doesn't diminish what you did or your talent or anything but it becomes frustrating at a certain point. You know if if my trout never wins one and never gets an opportunity to win one for the rest of his career. It won't affect my perception of how great mike trout was at baseball. But it does sort of sap from the overall experience and makes it more frustrating. Frankly that you had by trout or trey come out all that time. And never kinda cashed in so yeah. I think if you're going to be a mediocre team it's a lot more fun to have the generational player who can become even more special to you may be because there's not much else to be excited about but there is a point where i think you almost feel like you're squandering that player. You've been entrusted with this talent and you're not making the most of it so that's a really compelling counterargument to my idea that it feels appreciably better to have the best guy be one of your guys because we just get appreciate mike trout and like we don't have to stress about it so what the really the ideal fan construction fan experience when it comes to appreciating the best player in the game not to being fan generally. But i might. I might submit that. The best way is to be neither fan of that specific team nor fan of a rival team because i see mariners fans struggle with mike trout. They wanna love him some of them. Some of them are very contented. Dislike him tremendously. But some of them are like i wanna like this guy but then he wallops us and i get that. I don't think that that's a failure of character. Not be like enthusiastic about mike trout because he comes in. And he's like i really just gonna all your guys so that doesn't make you a bad person just makes you a fan of the mariners so the astros or the or the rangers or you know it's just like you're sitting there going. This guy got to see him. Nineteen times a season. The as that's the other team they don't one week i could. I could have been smooth and brought it up and some people wonder. Did she forget the the last team. But they wouldn't have had proof that i did and i submitted to it. I'm a i m saying that. I guess i applaud you for your honesty. All rates questioned from david patriot supporter. He says i'm listening to episode sixteen eighty eight in the discussion of pitcher throwing slower. My son and i recently went to a ball game and had great seats by the dugout. We watched the pitcher warm up in marveled at how fast the ball went from the least to catcher's glove then we looked at the radar gun eighty nine miles per hour. What many times we. I sometimes join in on your conversations. Were no one else. This listing have talked about standing in the box. It most likely ends up with us. Running away or vomiting. This made me think what if we had an automatic strikeout rule granted this might only be relevant for another five months but if a pitcher steps into the box forfeits. His at bat is that okay. Assuming he's been told not to swing the greatest. Fear is a hit by pitch that causes injury but some might not even want the pitcher running the bases if they happen to draw walk. Is there merit to the idol. Wanna at bat can a player. Just refuse to step into the box and take out social. Shame is reason number one. I suppose but that in itself is a reason to act in any particular fashion of kilter this possibly being hit with a five ounce propelled at ninety five miles per hour. Even if it is by accident. I think you get benched for a while if you just truly refused to stand in and take your at bat even if you're a pitcher. I think that you would ride the bench for a minute. I think they would have a conversation. About what i think that the word want would come up a fair amount and like no team would want to just give away out because like maybe the guy does put it in player. Maybe he lays on a sacrifice bunt like there's absolutely no never become a thing. But i kinda wanna i kinda wanna watch baseball people. React to the idea of it. Because i think few things would inspire more like the idea of a guy just truly refusing to stand in because ziada. You gotta try a little bit like. How many pitchers pitch i would imagine. Oh this is an interesting question. And now i'm forgetting if this if there was any kind of positional breakdown in in rob's research into hit by pitch but i would speculate. That pitchers are among the least hit by pitch. I would think so. Yeah as a as a demographic. I mean i know that like you know because you can just throw fastballs not gonna hit it right and you could just break. It's fine so there's no real need to not that no one ever throws inside to them but it happens very rarely anything. There's sort of an understanding that you're not gonna try to intentionally plunk if you're going to intentionally plunk anyone you're not gonna hit the day's starter because that's very bad for him. You might also get bunched for that but you just. I mean like presumably. This reticence would present itself so early in your baseball career that you would just never advanced like you might get benson little league might be like blend except there are a lotta pitchers as we've said who get to the majors not having hit in a game for a while because you know they never have to do it in the minors or even in college so it could happen but yeah i would think pitchers already don't get hit much. Haven't seen the breakdown in the data. But i think very rarely. Yeah a because maybe some pitcher solidarity not wanting to hit your counterpart or or put yourself at risk of getting hit the next time you're up but also i think just because you know generally guys don't throw quite as hard when they're facing pitchers like they take a little off. They feel like they can just throw strikes and get away with it so they don't necessarily have to make them chase and throw way off the zone so i would think that that is the case not to say that the risk is zero but there are definitely times. Where pitchers do this in effect by going up to the plate and not swinging. And they're instructed not to swing rain some cases whether because of an injury or just not wanting to endanger them or whatever and so the the effect there is essentially the same. Guess you might every now and then draw walk by accident or something. But i guess you could say why even make the attempt. Why pantomime hitting if. I'm not even gonna swing but you know. I don't think you need a rule for this first of all because you can already do this. If they want to do this. You could just not step into the batter stocks and you would have strikes assessed against you as you refused to enter the batter's box. That is already a rule. So you don't need a separate rule. And also i think yes you would get shamed for this for for being unwilling to step in there as relatable as that might be to those of us on the outside. Oh you would just you would get you'd get shamed forever. I mean yes. You're right to say that like this does happen for injury. Reasons or for strategic reasons lakers located just standing there and take them but you would never volunteer it. Yeah and at least you know why not run up the guys pitch count right like even if he's not throwing at max effort against the opposing pitcher. It's taken a little more out of his arm than just saying. I accept the strikeout. And i will now not even emerged from the dugout or will wheel around and return to the dugout. I don't know how you would go about this. But you know at least make the guy throw three pitches. Oh yeah for sure. This all reminds me in a very tangible way of a lovely tiny anecdote. The i was made aware of in the process of editing the national list this year and believe our contributor Who found this little anecdote. So there is a a pitcher in the national system. Since that's not the point of the story name. Todd peterson who viral. Apparently for he pitched five good relief innings and then hit a double big double in the sec tournament a couple of years ago before admitting in his postgame interview that he'd lied to his coach about hitting in highschool so that his coach would let him back it is spectacular and he hit a big double and he admits it and and his coach parliamentary. And he says. I'm glad you lied to me. It's great so anyway. I'll try to find the interview. It's on youtube somewhere but you know see this is what happens when you may be sometimes have to let them hit and they lie to you about stuff but then do hit doubles two now. The incentives are all wonky asia. All right mike in trumbull connecticut says i was watching. The orioles recently noticed how enthusiastically pedro severino requested. A of a check swing and it got me thinking. Obviously there's a lot of work done around catcher stealing strikes via framing. What kind of skills do you think. A catcher needs to display in order to steal borderline swinging strikes from a corner umpire on a check. Swing is it better to stand up and ask or is that a little too overeager. Do you stay in the squat and under sell it to give the impression that the call is obvious. Paint a picture of the perfect catcher reaction to capture a borderline swinging strict man. This makes me wanna watch like two hundred swings and freida long thing about something. Great use of your time and so much. Wow what a. I remember when we got this email thinking. What a terrific question. It wasn't. I didn't write at an answer because i am torn on the one hand. I think there's a lot to be said for the idea of like. Hey so you're gonna you're gonna say he went right because you know like in a sort of modest way. That seems to suggest. I'm asking as a matter of form but you an intelligent person who can see what happened are going to arrive at the obvious conclusion. Because you know that's your job and you're good at it and then i think that there's also something to the idea of like forcefully being like did he go did he. I think he did go right now. I think they're both excellent. Yeah i think just showing the confidence. I think like acting as if of course you're going to get the call just like no delay you don't think about it right. It's like instant reaction that your guests standing up or just making it very clear that you think that this was a strike in that you're expecting the empirical along with you and maybe just the the power of your personality will compel the empire to go along and i don't know if that's actually the case or not at can even see at backfire cases. Maybe it's presumptuous acting as if you are going to get a certain holland and i'm pires might say no. I'm not gonna just give you that call because you gestured over here. So expressively so. I could see it depending on the personality of the empire but in general. I think you know we're sort of wired to like listen to people who sound like they know what they're talking about which is kind of an unfortunate aspect of human psychology often the people who sound like they know what they're talking about fact do not end in fact. Sometimes there's like an inverse correlation there but you can kind of fake it till you make it in effect so i think that's the way i would go if i were upset. Just seem certain that it was definitely a swing and he went round to end. Maybe the empire would just feel peer pressured into going along with it and plus like if you have a really demonstrative gesture than like the spotlight is on you as the like. Everyone in the ballpark has seen that. The catcher has pointed to you and you're expected to make the call now so now there's pressure on you there so i think that would be better on the whole i think the as the catcher you have a much broader. You have a lot more margin for error when it comes to this. I think that the place where it matters a lot more sort of what your body language messages about your own confidences when you are a hitter who asks for A ruling on a check swing call which we don't see a ton we do see hitters. Who do it. And i always wonder like how that's received and so i think they're the body. Language might have the ability to sway the decision one way or the other much more significantly than it would if you're the catcher because it is sort of understood that like yeah you're gonna ask for help and and what have you but i don't know it's probably i would imagine that for a lot of answers more of a bright line between guys who are bothered that catchers ask at all and those who don't mind them asking kind of whatever that gesture ends up looking like i breaks down more along those lines because of it there are guys who were like ou're you'd ask this question. You should leave the home plate umpire but they always ask you know some you know. They don't always ask. Sometimes we have to be like yeah. I don't know that you would actually find a meaningful effect here. Maybe maybe you would find. Check swing framing. But it wouldn't be nearly as meaningful as actual framing and receiving doing a long piece. Once where i tried to find out like unpire check swing rates. And i got some data on that which was not publicly available at the time and don't even remember what i found. I don't think i found anything all that useful out. Like i was thinking like maybe some empires they always ring him up when they're appealed to and others never do. And is there a big difference there and i don't remember finding anything that was like that significant or interesting to the peace for anyone who wants to check that out that i just. I did a terrible job of advertising. So anyway i doubt you would find like this would be worth several runs a season or something but you know over the course of a career. Maybe you could actually quantify it might be something there. Well and and having said that what is more likely to matter for a catcher getting a receptive call one way or the other is is sort of the willingness of the umpire to hear the appeal from them at all or not. I would imagine that the thing that would really move. The needle is the empires propensity and sort of instinct to defer to their colleague at home versus. Not that's probably the thing that that moves at the most. Yeah maybe that might not be generous of me to assume i mean the thing that you really want to move. It is whether or not the guy checked swing. But i think that we didn't yeah. I think we can admit that other stuff my operate in the background. So of all the background things i think deference to once colleagues probably plays a really big role and then how cheeky you think the the catcher isr asking is smaller right. Alright i've got two more one of which is a step blast here's the penultimate question from garrett. I think there's a question in here somewhere but it begins with more of a way of looking at something. Rj mcdaniel mentioned at the end of episode. Sixteen fifty nine. I m paraphrasing here. But i think. Rg noted how are fend him of baseball or any sports really often undergoes so much change from childhood to teen hood to adulthood whether it's league altering trades aimed at big air quotes financial flexibility or horrific actions and words coming from front office personnel are ongoing minor league contraction or mlb's inability to recognize marketability and truly likeability of the games young stars. I have often found myself increasingly more drawn to the community of baseball and less so to the actual capital g. Game itself as folks more deeply rooted in the industry of baseball. You find that this feeling is shared or common among people in the game writers prospect evaluators even scouts or lower ranking team personnel. Or who worked directly with it. If i were brave enough to venture a guess based on my own bubble in baseball twitter. I would think the answer must be. Yes but i'm curious about your perspective particularly when you have the opportunity to converse with people in the industry as opposed to just those at the margins well. I don't think that the community is unimportant. I think that baseball people like hanging out with other baseball people. Only because other baseball people are the only people who have the built in tolerance to put up with as much baseball talk. Baseball people want to engage. So i think that for a lot of them like they really. Are they really care about the game. They care about the game a lot. They care about the game in a way that like actually would probably make a lot of fans feel really good about baseball as an industry because we spend so much time rightly talking about the ways in which teams are not necessarily trying to win and the way that ownership is prioritizing Profit and all of the sort of nasty stuff in the center of the game. Now detaches and i think that a lot of fans would be really heartened discover just how much baseball people really love and care about baseball. Like just really wake up wanting to engage with the game every day and it's a job and it has aspects and you know these depend on colonel. Will you do within the industry. That are really hard and that require a lot of time and often time away from your family. A lot of time at work and so. I think that it can ebb and flow for people. But i think that a lot of baseball people and this perhaps at least in my experience becomes more true. The more junior. You get just really love the game. And that's what they want to think about and talk about and engage with every day in a way. That's like really pure and lovely and i think if if that sentiment were at the center of kind of how the industry operates we'd probably see a really different version of the game than we do now because i think that their investment is really profound so again like they care about the community in which they operate and like they make lifelong friends. And they you know. Also people don't like because it is workplace so like that happens for folks but it's really great and i think over the last year as we've seen different organizations whether the pandemic in different ways we saw orbs that really took care of those baseball people in order to did a good job of that and a lot of those folks still stuck around in part because this is what they do and how they make a living also because they really care about it as an endeavour and even though they may be did not experience good treatment at the hands of higher ups they you know they're kinda lifer so i think it has. I've said this before. Like it has been very clarifying to me about needing to differentiate really clearly between where mandates to sort of step back from competition or whatever. We're calling it or coming from and where budgetary mandates come from because to say that it's like a front office thing is is insufficiently precise. That's a kind of long winded. Answer a question. But yeah like some of the things that garrett mentions here some of the negative aspects of baseball that we sometimes talk about and critique on the podcast. They don't actually make me lake baseball less and think at least they don't make me like the sport less. I guess you know they might make me like mlb as a business says a company little less but even there. I'm sort of aware that a lot of these are longstanding problems. That may be are coming to greater attention now but are not not problems and in many cases were even worse before of so. Some of this is is new issue or at least. There's a new wrinkle to it. Like some of anticompetitive behaviour but again like with back at baseball history and owners have always operated in a lot of those ways. They've always been teams. That weren't trying. And maybe it's more glaring now. That baseball is a big business and brings in some number of billions of dollars per year. But just saying like you know. Pick your your golden age of baseball quote unquote and go back and look at. What was actually happening. There and i don't think it would actually be better and a lot of the things we talk about with like you know player behavior or front office behavior. You're not to excuse those things anyway. But like again. I think they were probably always part of baseball. And were just sort of swept under the rug or no one was really calling attention to them and so in a way you know in this is something that i think we deal with a lot of aspects of life with social media and everything of bringing these things to our attention constantly were like more aware of the ills of society. Were tragedies than we would have been doesn't mean that they didn't exist before and in many cases were more common and more deeply ingrained. And so i try to look at the fact that we focus on these things more now as a sign of progress and hopefully change. And so i guess you know. It doesn't turn me off of baseball so much. Because i just feel like well. It's not as if it's necessarily getting worse in these respects. Hopefully it's getting better and also baseball is not unique in a lot of these things. A lot of these behaviors that we talk about. You know look at any industry any area of life. These are problems there too. We focus on them because this baseball podcast and we cover baseball. So that's the beat tier but doesn't mean it's unique to baseball. So you know. I try to put those things in perspective. I guess and be able to be clear eyed about those flaws without blowing them up into a proportion that would make me not want to watch the sport patented the sport anymore. But that said. I think they're what a really good ways to consume baseball without it. Just being about mlb as a business or even like the standings and you know who wins and loses every game. And i don't know whether being on this side of things has changed that for me. I think i've kind of always appreciated that about baseball. Just like the cultural aspects of it and the way it brings people together and not just necessarily at the major league level but all the way down to little league and internationally and you know it's a way that people relate to each other and talk to each other in sort of experienced the fabric of human existence to sort of through baseball and the history of it and the stories and the personalities all of that is as compelling to me is like the results on the field. I think so. I don't know whether being on this side of things has changed that for your whether that was kind of always the way i look at it but i do think that you know if you cover baseball than you're hyper aware of these issues that you know if you're following it in a casual way or you're only paying attention to one team. Maybe you're just not even aware of the stuff you know you're just watching the game and and that's kind of how you interact with baseball and there's nothing wrong with that. I do think that you know if your job is to cover these things. Then it away. It's like you're exposed to all the bad stuff and maybe that might make you know sort of cynical about it more so maybe appreciate the good parts of it too but i think just being with the bad news more than someone who is not quite as plugged in would be might make you more likely to sour on it. I guess which. I hope to avoid kind of you know losing my love for it even if it's not necessarily you know rob manfred. It's just baseball itself. It's the the sport and the way people interact with it. I think that it's not like i said it. Ebbs and flows right. You're sort of enthusiasm for it may be less. Oh 'cause you're just you're going to engage with it every day because that's your job but you're you're sort of instincts to watch it when you don't have to for work might ebb and flow a little bit depending on the relationship. You're keeping with the sport and the way that you know. The those sort of social issues with senator sort of hitting you on any given day like i wasn't you know like the ten the day the jared porter news broke. I wasn't like a super big fan of baseball. But i think that you're right that there's there's a distinction that needs to be made between baseball as a game like small be baseball and then mlb. And despite and they'll be as best efforts are not completely synonymous with one another yet. And i think that you know like any job where you kinda get to make a job out of a favorite hobby. It changes your relationship with it and you do lose some of the the kind of appreciation you have for the game that you have. When you're a fan at least it starts to morph a little bit into something else. Because you're layering your own professional ambitions into it and professional frustrations and you're you're dealing with like industry politics and all of that stuff and i think that it's really different when you're in baseball media versus someone who works for team so like that's a distinction that needs to get made but yeah like i don't know i was thinking the other day i think we're probably i don't know what they're going to look like because i think there are plenty teams. That are pretty happy with the zoom life. The beat reporters reliving. But i imagine we'll have winter meetings this year blake in person. I think we're supposed to be in nashville. I think there are national this year. I can't. I can't wait. I cannot wait. I think the people are going to behave very family. And i hope that everyone remembers that. Like it's okay. she's just not hungover. We can just decide. We're not gonna do that. Don't do it. you're gonna feel a garbage. You know it make different choices. But it's just gonna be really silly. See a bunch of people who i haven't been able to see for by that point you know. Two years almost Because of the pandemic and so does afford you community and relationships that can be life altering. Potentially so yeah. I don't know baseball's pretty cool. Sometimes it bugs us. But i think we're both pretty big fans like i I'm very glad to get to do it for my job. Because it's my favorite thing so it's pretty that it gets to by working time and helped me here it yeah. I'm sure you get jaded if you're a beat writer and you're on the road constantly and you know like you're you're probably want the games to get over with sooner which i think anyone would even if it's hard to understand that as a fan like if it's your job and your own deadline and it affects how much sleep you have and what else you get to do like. It's just hard not to think of it. That way i think. But maybe in exchange for that you also get the relationships with other writers and people in the game and you know they become friends and and your social network. So i think they're pluses and minuses. Yeah for sure all right last question. This is a step blast blew. A this question comes from evan. I was looking through baseball. References trade partner history today and came across the deal that caught my eye a nineteen ninety-one trade between the orioles astros that was extremely one sided. The astros traded traded away an agent. Glenn davis in exchange for three prospects. Curt schilling steve. Finley and pete harnisch. The trade breaks down as follows. Curt schilling seventy nine point eight career fan. Graphs were seventy nine point. Five post-trade steve finley forty point. Four career were forty point to post trade. Pete harnisch twenty point six career were seventeen point three post trade and glenn davis eighteen point three career bankrupts were only point four post trade which brings a total of one hundred thirty six point six fame grass were gained by houston when looking at various articles posted by espn bleacher report and even the houston chronicle about the most lopsided trades. None of the mentioned the steel. I reckon it's mostly because the astros did not get as much out of these players. They could have steve. Finley played only four of his remaining seventeen seasons in houston and showing only had fifty six average relief appearances an uniform before he was traded to the phillies for jason grimsley. If you only look at games played in astros uniform houston only gained about twenty five. Were still a good trade but baltimore. Lost nearly one hundred forty war. Obviously this isn't a perfect way to evaluate trade lopsidedness since it fails to account for service time contract that cetera. So i was wondering how you would evaluate it. What do you think is the most lopsided trade of all time where do you think the shields trade will end up on this list and perhaps most importantly it possible for me to make a complete list with queries or would it be easier to continue my strategy of scrolling through baseball reference. 'cause evan was looking for other trades that might stack up to this trade so i went straight to the source to dan hirsch friend of the show patriots supporter who works for baseball reference. And he was able to send me a list and write a query on the baseball reference database to send me the examples of the most lopsided trades just in terms of war produced by the players on either end of the trade posts trade. So yeah as evans saying like yeah you you want to take into account salary and service time and all of that but that gets complicated looking back at the entirety of baseball history and i think this is an interesting way to look at to just who got the most war. Ask the deal. So technically and dan mentioned that this includes trades only not purchases transaction type called purchase which is just basically. You know spending money to get player. The babe ruth trade for instance was purchased. So that doesn't show up here. But technically the most lopsided trade is an eighteen ninety nine deal between the pirates and the louisville colonels this is the honus wagner trade. Oh you know this one. The war received three hundred thirty four were received by the pirates. You know forty-three war gained up by the colonel's now this one this you know this is kind of an exception because what actually happened here is that there was contraction happening in the national league at that time it was going down from twelve teams to eight teams and barney dreyfuss was like the president of the colonels and he also the pirates or half owned the pirates and so the colonels were one of the teams getting eliminated so basically he just took the good players from the colonels and transferred them to his other teams the pirates so Speaking of anticompetitive behavior in past eras of baseball you're not allowed to own multiple teams anymore. Which is probably an improvement. But anyway this is you know technically a trade where hans wagner and rubel delle and fred clark and tommy leach deacon philip and claude ritchie and other players Went to the pirates in exchange for. Jack chess bro. And a bunch of not as good players But you know that's a net gain of two hundred ninety one point nine war but that doesn't really count if you want a trade that was really legitimately a trade. Evan is right it is this nineteen ninety-one trade between the astros and the orioles one hundred thirty eight point six war lopsidedness and again. It's curt schilling steve. Finley and pete harnisch for glenn davis and glenn davis was actually a good player up to that point in his career but not really for long thereafter and those other players really panned out and you know turned into near hall of fame caliber players or fame caliber but not yet hall of fame players or very good players in in harnish his case. So that is the most lopsided. And i think my my favorite aspect of that deal and i guess we just passed the thirtieth anniversary of that trade on january tenth. But i think the interesting thing is you might think of like the astros. Really clean the orioles clocks. They're like they really knew something that the orioles didn't and yet the astros didn't get much from those guys and they traded all three of those players away in deals that did not work out well for the astros. So it's like no one knows anything. The the astros. They got steve finley. But in nineteen ninety-four. They traded finley with the player to be named later. And ken committee and harsh daimyo and roberto petty jeannie and brian williams to the padres for dirk bell. Doug brocail ricky could yeras pedro martinez. Not that pedro martinez phil plantier craig shipley etc. So that was A very lopsided trade where you know. Finley was sort of a a late bloomer and immunity of course so that was a bad trade for the astros and then they traded harsh to the mets for players. To be named later. And it was just like two guys andy beckerman and one castio who never pitch for the astros in the majors and then the astros traded as evan mentioned schilling to the phillies for jason grimsley in nineteen ninety two. So like they made this incredible trade but they didn't even really know what they had in the train. Those players themselves in in similarly lopsided deals and the interesting thing is that the phillies astros trade for schilling. That's actually sixteenth on the list of Most lopsided trades seventy four point five four just shilling for grams louis. So yes the answer is one of the best trades of all time and then they made a series of very bad trades including another of the worst records of all time. So i kinda like that. Just for the complete incompetence on display in all sides seattle to predict baseball player pass. I wonder where to teast will rank it. I mean it already doesn't look very. I mean it's very early to call the ball on that but it already does not look very good. It's just sort of intimate. I think maybe. I've said this before. It's just such an intimate thing to know about someone that's like you think about these gm's and what they must think about if they can't sleep and it's three a m and they're like i'm gonna i relive suffer middle school Relives this like what if what if. Aj hadn't been on those backfield's yeah then what we'll see if totti's turns out to be a hall of fame player than this will climb blessed but i will read you some of the other top lopsided trade tier and i'll put the full list online 'cause this is a really fun spreadsheet to peruse but the next most lopsided we've got december fifth nineteen eighty eight the rafael palmeiro trade between the cubs and the rangers said. This was a one hundred eight point nine. Were differential. It was raphael palmiero. And jamie moyer andrew hall for mitch. Williams and steve wilson and paul kill gays and kurt wilkerson so that was a not such a good one not so good next on the list. This is kind of an alzheimer. The giants and the reds traded christy mathewson and ms russi so all-time great increase mathewson and msnbc. I think pitch like three more games or or three more days or something before it was the end of his career. So that's one hundred seven point two. Were that's December fifteenth nineteen hundred next one july. Twenty ninth nineteen eighty eight baltimore and boston. Oh boy this is another curt schilling trade. Actually kurt showing is in three of the most lopsided trades of all time so this one actually predated the astros orioles one this was the orioles getting curt schilling and brady anderson for mike bodecker. And that's a a difference of one hundred point three four so that just adds to my appreciation of this sequence so men curt schilling notable for many reasons not so great but this is a fun fact. I think so he's a he's a centerpiece of three of the top. Sixteen most lopsided trades of all time. So i don't know whether that is a reflection of his personality in any way or whether it was just people not recognizing how good curt schilling was going to be but the orioles got a potential steel and then they gave away a potential steel and then the astros also did so people were just playing hot potato with curt schilling. No knew how good he was going to be next. One is april twenty first. Nineteen sixty six. Fergie jenkins and adolfo phillips. And john herbstein. For larry jackson and bob buhl. That's trade between the cubs and the phillies cubs. Get frankie jenkins pretty good deal. They're nineteen eighty to december ninth trade between the blue jays and the keys. Fred mcgriff trade. The yankees traded fred mcgriff. Mike morgan and dave collins to the blue jays for tom dodd and dale murray. Your classic George steinbrenner pulling the plug too early on a young promising player trade. Then you've got the notorious nolan ryan. Trade angels the mets december tenth nineteen seventy-one nolan ryan leroy stanton frank strada and don rose for jim fregosi. Of course that's a difference of eighty two point. Six war was eighty five in that mcgriff trade. If i didn't mention that and then you also have nineteen seventy-one november trade between the reds and the astros. The reds picked up. joe morgan. That worked out pretty well for them. To morgan had already been a very good player for the astros but became an even better player for the red. So it was joe. Morgan cesar geronimo. Dennis menkey jack. Billingham at armbruster for lemay tommy. Helms and jimmy stewart. That is the top ten. Then you've also got the johnny damon trade for ben grieve and on hell bro. Mark ellis in that deal too. So the as scott johnny damon and mark ellison corey idol. That worked out. Well the sammy sosa trade between the white sox and the rangers in one thousand nine hundred nine. Sammy sosa wilson alvarez scott fletcher for harold baines fred manrique and notice when jeff bagwell and from the red sox to the astros in ninety so there you have the astros know they were making some great trades in some terrible trades at that time. But jeff bagwell for larry anderson. That is an editorial one. So i will put the full list online. And if you're thinking of a famous up sided trade. It is probably on here somewhere close to the top of the list the patriot martinez deal ryan. Sandberg willie randolph pee. Wee reese george davis gillard perry david cone early win. While he shang john smoltz norb cash et cetera et cetera. Another sammy sosa trade. So fun list. Thank you to evan. For the question and to dan hirsch for the data hug your prospects never let him go. Yeah never change. Yeah got the derek low and and jason varitek for heathcliff slocumb up here in nineteen ninety seven. Not one that manners fencer are found. No not especially all right. That will do it. Well after we recorded this episode a couple of pieces came out by fabian. Our dea and ken rosenthal of the athletic that shed a little light on albert pu holes exit from the angels and based on those reports which cited and quoted angel sources but not holes. It sounds as if some of the suppositions in discussion were correct. The angels talked to poke holes about playing less being benched winding down his career and some mutual way who holes wasn't having it wanted to continue to play didn't really want control of any kind. At least according to the angels. And so that sorta necessitated the awkward break-up so based on those portrayals at least they can't really fault the angels for how they handled this and who hoses within his rights to decide not to go gently into retirement. I wonder what this will mean for the ten year personal services contract with the angels that was supposed to kick in after the ten year playing contracts. I don't know if this not entirely amicable ending to his career as an eagles player will make it more likely for him to continue to serve some role with the team or whether they can get together again. If perot holes finds that the angels weren't alone and he wasn't wanted elsewhere. I will link to both of those pieces on the show page if you're interested in checking them out and in actual game on thursday shohei ohtani h. Hit a home run cured while started at first and started a nice three six double play and being lost anyway. What else is new. Okay as always. Thanks for listening today and this week you can support effectively wild on patriot going to patriot dot com slash effectively. Wild appalling. 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Episode 23 BREAKING NEWS Great sports memories in baseball

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Episode 23 BREAKING NEWS Great sports memories in baseball

"Mama when our the san me this say sanity get off mar grass coming up on this episode. The old man's podcast breaking news. That's right. I have so breaking news for you. You don't wanna miss this. Did i get your attention. Is that what it takes. We'll see this old man's got some great. Sporting moments already talked to you about football. Now tell you about my great sporting moments in baseball. Probably jog the memory of a few of your listeners. Out there and for some of you maybe even a lot of you might give you some new insight into some old great. Sporting moments for baseball got a pep talk. We're going to do real quick. I want to refresh and remind you of the your on my list movement and finally going to wrap up some pop culture terms not current pop culture terms with terms from the old days. Good old terms not used by anyone anymore. Maybe they should be. They were definitely a lot more fun. All that on this episode of the old man's podcast. All right i am going to air a grievance at something. I'm kind of known to be doing this. One is going to be breaking news to you. And where are you. Dump this grievance. You may agree with me. Ten probably thought about it yet breaking news picture. That's commission point and a question mark after that. Put it in. Big red bold. Maybe some flashing lights breaking news. Yeah i got some breaking news for you and that is that screaming. Breaking news at me is stupid. It's starting to drive me crazy. Every time i turn around someone's got a breaking news story every single story. It seems like on network media cable media on social media. Everything is a breaking news story and you know what only a few those breaking news stories are actually all that important or even that interesting for that matter. I get email from our local newspaper every emails titled breaking news breaking news stories and there's dozens of breaking news stories. These alert emails. I get every day sure. We're in a pandemic superior of unprecedented events. But his every new story so important that i have to drop everything. I'm doing and pay attention to what this talking head has to say. Are we as a society that uninterested in what goes on around us that the media to make every single little thing sound super important so people will pay attention. I have some breaking news for you. Everything isn't that important out in weird world of ours. What is important is what you are doing in your world. Not all the mnuchin drama out in the world. It's your world that matters for all that breaking news on cable news in newspapers and all sorts of media outlets like social media. It's not actually breaking news. Generally not even that big of a deal. I don't know if they do this anymore. But i remember stores like walmart. Andy censors at the exit. If he walked out of the store with something that hadn't gotten somehow processed the checkout alarm would go off. I guess was to alert them of shoplifters but the thing went off all the time what do you pay pretty eit or not. It didn't matter. Those alarms going off seem to happen regularly. it was loud. You were sure everyone. The store was staring down and making judgements on you. Now you knew you'd pay per everything had so it wasn't like you're walking out of the store shoplifter. Maybe he was a look for best buy they did. The same thing would happen almost every time you win. You buy a package of batteries and set off the alarm. You left so the first few times it happened. I was thinking. Oh my god here comes store security. They're gonna frisk me. Pat me down. You know all that you just freeze it. The exit standing there looking around waiting for the cops to show up and tell you change up on the wall but nothing ever happened now. We in the store ever moved. Nothing happened sometimes on occasions might get a checkout person. Who's closest door. Look at you and tell you to go on to your business. Nobody in the store was ever alarmed when the alarm went off. Don't win any concerns about things being stolen in news some kind of a snafu that the alarm go up because the price tag or some something about the purchase process so they wouldn't set off the alarm media happen a lot and nothing was being stolen. So why would. The people in the store did alarm. That's exactly how i feel with all this media breaking news. Maybe the first few hundred times. I heard the phrase and saw the giant red bold lettering breaking news. I might have stopped what i was doing at that time. Started paying attention because after all this is really really important right. I don't do that anymore. It's just like the alarm at the best. Buy store the social media the media outlets desensitize us to what is important and what qualifies as breaking news just like the buzzer going off at walmart when i hear breaking news i don't even move i'm numb to it. It's twenty twenty. And i'm tired of a lot of things but the screaming to get attention through breaking news. That might be the most annoying thing. Well at least right now anyway. The old man's podcast is produced on anchor. And if you haven't heard about anchor let me tell you a little bit about it. It is absolutely the easiest way to make a podcast. And it's free anchor has creation tools. That allow you to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more podcast delivery apps. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make podcast in just one place. It's easy it's free. It's what you can use to become a podcast or maybe you're a loyal listener or perhaps this is your first time listening to the old man's podcast either. Way how about doing the world favor in keeping one less grumpy old man in the world. How can you do that well by simply making a happy old man outta me. You can do that by helping out with podcast. Please pass on to everybody. You know if you're listening on an app please go back. Subscribe to the podcast and do a quick review or rating of the podcast. The old man's podcast. It's not just for old men. It's for everyone. So i started sharing great sporting moment memories. I had with you a few episodes back and did football this this episode. I wanna talk about baseball. This old man is seen some great sporting moments that are part of my memories for baseball. We're going to talk about today and see what you take. You remember. these two are up. You're too young sounded interesting to you. Must find out now. I'm in saint. Louis you might not be many of. You are but those of us in saint louis. Baseball memories are just a lot of them. My baseball memories are filled with saint louis cardinals history and as i said many of us probably are to. Maybe feel you could care less about it. you know. I saw stan musial play. That saw bob gibson pitch. I remember being the game when the great late great lou brock broke the stolen base record as seen epic home runs for mark. Maguire and albert pools remember. Willie mcgee going over the wall. Rob home run for the brewers to lock down the nineteen eighty two world series. And none of us here in saint louis can forget about. David freezes shot to beat the rangers would to out in the bottom of the ninth and is so many more. I can just go on and on and on about the cardinals but there are other baseball teams as well and i've enjoyed over the years watching others teams play. I'm enjoyed many moments and many characters from professional baseball mostly so here are the moments the players the times that this old man carries memories with outside of the saint. Louis cardinals when i first started about this. The first one jumped out to me. And you call your is think about if you saw this. Nineteen eighty eight world series. Come on what was it. Yup kirk gibson's home run. Now was in game one. It wasn't a decider for the series. But it sure set the tone for the dodgers was at dodger stadium. Gibson didn't plays initially hell out of that game because he was injured. Both of his legs were hurt. The guy could barely walk but the game was on the line. He was called upon to pitch hit in the bottom of the night. There two outs. It was the last toke to keep the inning going. No way he was going to beat out at anfield ground ball they could probably thrown them out. If the ball was hit to the outfield on the ground. There are going to probably be able to throw matter first base. Who naturally their. I guess it was either home. Run or bust. Game is on the line. he was called pension. And that's what they're looking for was a home run. Dennis eckersley by the way was on the mount thing. I remember best about this moment. Was the call by the great vin. Scully how many of you can remember vince. Gully he was known for doing dodger games here on sunday game of the week and here from chinatown a gag. Call baseball like few others. He could paint net the watch. It you see it from the descriptions that he was given you so. I was watching this game on tv. But it's called just made me feel like i was there. I could feel the excitement as if you were actually at dodger steve. I guess this memory could be a double can mean both kirk gibson hidden home. Run and vin. Scully making that call. Both of these two things were forever entwined in incredibly impressive. Call in the homerun. Now you may remember. He hit a two run. Walk off home. Run against the oakland a.'s. Dennis eckersley as i said that uh homerun did win the game. The dodgers they won by five to four. I think but the iconic scene of the gimpy. How gibson hobbling around the bases is seared into the memory of everybody who saw it. And i can still hear vin scully's call describing this incredible event as we watched it unfold. That's a memory. That i think i'll remember for the rest of my life. That's going to be the single events of great baseball memories. Mark part the rest of the memories. I have for you are really i. Guess a tines. Maybe a person's career seasons kinda watching amazing things unfold and the first one. That would be up on this topic. When i was ten years old watching the miracle mets when the one thousand nine hundred sixty nine world series as i said i was ten years old and at that age. You just kind of getting into sports like baseball. That's what a ten year old does. I didn't root for them. That's my friends didn't match but we were playing baseball regular and we were aware of who that there was. A team called the new york mets. I remember a lot of things during the summer of sixty nine in there were a lot of things going on. That's a pretty famous summer right. A lot of culturally historic events occurring in nineteen sixty nine. The summer of sixty nine is made the lyrics of a few songs for ten year old. I wasn't all that interested. Things were like world in society. My friends and i played sandlot ball nearly every day. I mean there wasn't an espn. The only thing you'd find out about sports was a newspaper and maybe the evening news but most of the information we would get from per for professional sports league. Baseball was just from spreading the word around person person. An mets were a joke during most of the sixties and a bunch of kids from the mid west. We didn't even know who they were. And he did have a colorful manager. By the name of casey stengel and us kids were known to use the latest stingl. Azam on dimon never knew what the guy was. Going to say is very entertaining. Things didn't look like they're going to be any better for the mets. In one thousand nine hundred sixty nine they had been before they had a one hundred one shot or even greater to win the world series at your scrapped though all summer and hung around to somehow dramatically rally to beat the cubs in the national league east. That's what got the attention of saint louis kids because we're always rooting for whoever was playing against the cubs in this case. The mets next the mets to feed the braves in the nl cs to make it to the world series. And remember seeing it on the news. Famously casey stengel walking into the clubhouse after the big win over the braves yelling yes yes now at least know our names maybe all. Maybe that's the all time lows bar ever set by manager right. I team at least know. Know our names in the world series. The mets faced the baltimore orioles famous sixty year players. The led by brooks robinson member boo. Paul and future underworld superstar. Jim palmer all with the orioles at that time nets lost first game and it looked like the miracle season was gonna end quickly but They came back. They won three in a row and brought the series back the shea stadium for a decisive possibly decisive game. Five nets where the miracles would begin. Dorrell's took control early. Look like they're going to take the series bet. Baltimore air went three three to nothing late in the game. Now you've probably heard a story about the black smudge of shoe polish on the baseball. So what happened. Is the mets leadoff hitter. I think it was the eighth inning. He's called out on strikes but the pitch previous to the strike up pitch had hit him in the foot ball rolling in the dugout. The managers players retrieve the ball the next patriots a strike. He was out but what they saw on. The baseball from. The previous pitch was a black smudge of shoe. Polish wearing sneakers weren't baseball shoes that they would polish shop or leather shoes and polish lack policy. That they look good so the manager called those calls. Timeout goes off the empire and shows them the baseball. This got the black smudge of shoe polish on and say hey he got hit by a pitch before he struck out the evidence was preponderance of evidence was overwhelming and the umpire called him Hit by pitch and sent the batter to first base. So the batter takes i and of course next guy goes deep with a two run blast. Mets call up to within one run scores three two two next inning. Mets got this guy named cow weiss. I can still remember because it looked at like Ozzie smith was for cardinals. He's the antithesis of a power hitter. Probably never ever hit home. Runs and one hit a solo shot that titus score mets get a couple more runs in the eighth one of them on an orioles error and then this iconic catch into game clenched the world series topping. Tonight one on two outs heels. Got a chance. David johnson played second base for them. Is it the plate. Now he'd been known to go deep time or so he could be a threat to put the orioles ahead and give him the go-ahead run into ninth inning with a home run. Drives a jerry kouzmin. I remember jacuzzi and he hits this pitch teeth. I mean it's a high shot deep to left just not deep enough. Everybody is holding their breath. The mets outfielder puts his hands Catches the ball with two hands. High above his head holds it tight puts his head down. Sprints dugout for the celebration. It was an iconic moment to a really miraculous season. I can still see that image of him catching the ball and he kind of brings it down into his chest like these brand and he might have been but that was an iconic. Finish my kind of scene way to a miraculous finish for miraculous. Season is a little ten year old. You picture the movie sandlot. Kinda were me and my friends worked at point talking about a miracle mets now. Here's another one outside of my hometown. Cardinals abor baseball superstar as a young kid teenager. Now at this point was reggie jackson. I like everyone else. Had to be impressed with this pressure eating performances. During postseason in the seventies i think is crowning achievement came with three homerun performance in a world series in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven clinching game six. What's a miraculous are what's impressive. I guess is each one of those. Three home runs. Came on the first pitch from three. Different dodgers pitchers those home runs were rockets to their line. Drives it went from his bat to someone seat in what seemed like a fraction of a second. Remember to france cheddar channing. His name reggie reggie brad. G was if they will him to complete this incredible feat. Remember in the post game interview. He gave credit to scouts who had provided reports indicated. The dodgers were gonna try to throw him inside. Jackson said he was ready for that. He was sitting on inside pitches. And that's how he was able to turn on him and hit him so hard into the stance. I remember that did a year of the young coach because it's made me realize how important preparation is scouting in. Preparation can make the difference in a win or loss. Reggie jackson's thoughts on that. Nineteen seventy seven really have stayed with me all these years. Greg played twenty seven world series games. He had ten home runs in those twenty seven games and in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy seven series. He had five of them three of them in at one game. That was those kinds of report. It was those kinds of performances to got him. The nickname of you remember mr october. Another memory seared in my mind from that seventy seven world series is the way to feel at the games and the clinching game to game that they won the world series was it wasn't yankee stadium. Fans are going crazy. They're getting ripped and they're rowdy. Anticipation a games and they had some have been thrown firecrackers. He was in right field. Reggie wasn some. Were throwing firecrackers remember. Jackson called timeout. Ran to the i guess probably the bullpen. But he got himself at a batter's helmet. He was wearing a hard hat a battering helmet for protection while he was playing in right field crazy right so at the end of the game is get started getting close and they got the one out in the two out. The people were actually hanging over the wall. Feel wall kind of hanging from the wall anticipating the third out and the clinton of the game. They're dropped feel obviously charge. So sousa happens. It was a pop up to the pitchers for the pitcher catches. The pop up is easy. Pop up for the last out is dropped to the ground. He sprints out to right field to janki. Dugout enters already people on the field. Lots of people maybe hundreds of people and he's running. Like i thought at the time like larry csonka for the miami. Dolphins eat his body checking and shoulder. Smashing people who are running on feelings plows his way through the crowd to get to the dugout. it was He could the time he could have been a football player too but he made his mark and baseball on was great. So that's memory remarkable time in a remarkable player's career. If i look at a remarkable players entire remarkable career i think of nolan ryan ryan expressed ran roughshod over professional baseball for my boyhood deep into my adult life. The guy when you might remember this when someone rushed amount following ryan brushback pitch. He threw down his glove and went fisticuffs with the guide. Now how are you not impressed with that. Right pitchers do. But that's with nolan. Ryan did nolan. Ryan played twenty seven years. He started out with the mets and ended up with the rangers. Playing in california angels in houston astros. In between he was a right handed pitcher he was known as a fireballer he threw pitches or clocked above a hundred miles per hour. So he was one of the best known fireball. Throwers as we call him in the history of the game and definitely during my time as a fan and even this by city throughout his entire career. When i was seeing him in the nineties he was in the nineteen nineties. He was still throwing the baseball in the nineties miles per hour his career his career. Statistics really mind is a lifetime. Record of three hundred twenty. Four to ninety two was eight time all star. His strikeouts is a significant major league record. Nobody's even close five thousand seven hundred and fourteen career strikeouts. Nobody's close. They may never get there nowadays. Who's who's pitching for. Twenty seven years right to me is all time greatest. Achievement is a seven no hitters again touch that. He has three more than any other pitcher now. I had the opportunity. Luckily and it was freak. Lock to watch no hitter number seven. It wasn't a crappy oilfield used by the rangers before they built the ballpark at arlington and My sister and i were going back to her home. She lived in brownsville and we stopped off dallas. We catch baseball game and to go that one. I still have a hang on the my basement that we got the game. I was so impressed and enamored with them. I guess seeing that seventh. No hitter really stuck with me. I got a complete set of flare baseball cards. As collection called the nolan ryan collection and it has a seven no hitter cards one card for each other no hitters and then then i over one hundred cards throughout his career following him as he went One of my most cherished gifts that ever received is his autograph copy of the biography that was done on him that my wife got me for christmas one year. So yeah big nolan ryan fan. He had a great career. He never played for team than i root for. But i was always impressed by the way played. The game is passion is competitiveness and he was no wetlands. Guy was a tough guy. That really impressed me. I guess his career ran through my life. there's a lot of great memories attached. At times. while he was playing he appeared major league. Baseball games through four different decades started in the sixties with the seventies eighties and finished up in the nineties. Those are great decades for me personally so Maybe that's where the fondness and the memories of his career becomes so intense. Well there you have it some of my greatest sports memories in the area baseball baby. Remember those things too that i thought about maybe learns new things about those memories that you never heard about. I'm sure you have your own greatest sports memories as well about you. Share them with somebody especially a younger person. That's what it's all about who stay connected to the old man's world. I finding the old man page on facebook. That's the old man page. 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I'm just checking in with be to see how you doing on your list and if you've contacted the people suggested so what would idea was to make a list of people that you're looking forward to spending time with when we get past this pandemic each day gets a little bit better. We'll get better news more good news regarding a foreseeable end to this battle that we're having with conan nineteen as we all know. I talked about this and blow it now. At this point with the end so close we can see a. We don't want to do anything stupid. It'd be a shame to ruin it all by getting stupid in the ninth inning or late the game. We need to finish strong. And that's kinda the point of the whole year on my list message. The aim is to let people on the list that you make know that they are someone you want to spend time with post pandemic. the hope is to provide other people with the little bit of motivation that they might need to stay in the fight and finished his battle strong. don't give up emotionally or mentally to continue to be strong in digilent- why we close out this battle against kobe. So get that list done that. Hit the people on the list with the message because it doesn't do much good they don't know about it. Hit him with a message on your favorite social media outlet whatever that might be. Give them something positive to look forward to. Hey you're on my list. I'm going to hang out with you ruin go to dinner. We're gonna have a party where get together. I'm going gonna invite you to my house. Whatever it is details probably aren't as important as just letting them know that you want to spend some time with them post pandemic hope. Your friends want to spend some time with you post pandemic and they look forward to it. We may all have forgotten by now. What that means social is when i get a refresher course more on that later now personally if you want to identify old man's podcasts. With where the idea came from for the on you're on my list movement go give them the link and the naked. Listen to the podcast now. Something like that. Maybe that's the hashtag. Come from that really sure how it works but at any point i'd be grateful for the pr in podcast could definitely use it. So make your list hit the people. Pass the podcast on is the place where you got the idea. Let's help each other. Be strong thanks. This fight to the end One of the things i liked to do and i've done in the past episodes. Keep everybody up to speed with what some current cultural pop culture terms are if people are using the kizer used so we can Winter skin what's going on in the world. But i started thinking about culture and pop culture terms and they are thinking about some things that we had back in day. And i'm going to go with that. Have a few good old school terms if you will. That aren't used anymore. Probably will never come back. But i'm hoping to get a smile out of you when i throw these terms your way and you remember using them are people using them around you and your smile. Yeah i remember that i one. I'm going to go with this suntan lotion so yeah. This is a factual thing so back in the day through. Probably the fifth wasn't fair. But the sixties and seventies i was idea wasn't to protect yourself from the sun Yeah i think he might actually thought that a suntan was not skin damaged but skin protection. Now we know differently but the idea was never to screen the sun from you but this soak it in and get that dark tan so there were lots of products out there that were supposed to get your getting your tant. Burn you especially pale pink. People like myself but that was the whole idea to get sunday. I remember we were girls. Maybe not me. But girls would Smear baby lotion all over themselves to get extra burnt. Put cooking oil on yourself. I still ask for suntan lotion. Time dries my kids crazy back in the day there. As i said there were products we buy those who would actually accelerate that skin damage to produce a tent. And there's i said baby oil was something we used to get good burn. So that's a term. I use a lot suntan lotion. It doesn't apply anymore. It's never going to apply but do you remember those days when we didn't know about the hat we probably should have. But we didn't know about the hazards of the sun. Did you suntan lotion. would you use it now. I would next term headphones anything that takes music and puts it through the holes in the side of my head into my brain or called headphones right now as i make his pike podcast. I'm wearing headphones. That really headphones or stuck in my ears. Apparently they have a different term. I know kids are very specific. Admire that about them. If they're actually using headphones they called them headphones even those magic headphones ones. That don't have wires it. They're using the doodads. They plug into years. Like i have on right now. They call him by name. Just kidding cannot really call dear doodads. I know what call we call earbuds. Have your buds and right now. I don't have the magic wands. That don't have wires. He's wires and yes. I do know that that magic is called bluetooth. I'm just kidding. But an older persons. They have to call anything to bring sound into your head as headphones. I always do the kids. The kids are very specific. Name i not even call them headphones it. They're wearing beats. That's the brand of headphones at there. Weren't gonna call beats admire. That kids are specific. I'm not anything that puts music in my head headphones about you call headphones. Come earbuds gone. Beats. what are you go with. I remember. pe class we played a game called bombardment nowadays. They call it dodgeball. so what. Kids now called dodgeball. I grew up calling bombardment. Then that sound a lot. More ominous dodgeball sounds artistic. Sounds like you got some skills. Athleticism barden sounds vicious. It was. I'm not sure which term most accurately describes a game. it probably depends on what area you're talking about. I know nowadays playing dodgeball. You're supposed to avoid getting hit in avoid getting hit by a really soft nerf ball so nerf ball kind of ball not gonna hurt. You ever care. Who's going could be nolan. Ryan throwing not gonna hurt you. It's like a feather and he old days when we played bombardment. Use those hard rubber playground balls year. Remember right. I probably still got some welts from getting hit with those things and it was called bombardment. Because you'd identify one or two kids and of course they were us nerds and we're gonna get bombarded. I instead of cool kids all gang up and throw those hard rubber balls playground balls at the nerdy kids. And that's why i think it was called bombardment. Guest the idea was knocked them out of the game but really just to knock him out. Inflict as much pain as possible all days. I miss them and finally last term that. I catch myself still using today. If you ever used this one icebox do you. Put your food into the icebox. A lot of people use fridge. But i- pox was a thing an icebox actually had ice in it. It wasn't electric. He didn't plug in it. And it was just a big insulated little bit like modern day refrigerator but up on the top where the freezer might be now. There is a place to put a block of ice. You may if you fall three stooges do you remember one where they were. Ice deliverers in curly had his big block of ice and he was delivering it to a house and then a long long giant freakishly long staircase and he carried is walk up the steps and by the time we got the top. He's just a little ice cube. That was there ice delivers. And that's what would happen. The iceman would come around regularly and deliver. A block is to people's house and you put the blocking the top of the ice. Keep anything that you had in their call like a having like a cooler kitchen so that was the three stooges thing so yeah. That's really really old days way before even my time but as a kid in my life some adults who had probably actually had an ice box in her house still refer to the refrigerator is an icebox so it was a common term amongst kids. My age now dolts my age to use the word icebox we would recognize what that means. I catch myself. I catch myself still from time to time using the word icebox. Have you ever done that. Have you ever heard anyone else do it. I guess the term kinda actually really still works right because the freezer part of the refrigerator makes ice. So there's ice in it. It's kind of like an icebox. this might be one. We can bring back. Let's work on f-folks bring back the term icebox well there. You have it. Another episode of the old man's podcast is as they say in the case. Hope you enjoyed it. Hope you were able to relax a little bit smile. maybe laugh. it makes that list. Would you make a list of people that you want to spend time with post pandemic let them know about it. Give each other's motivation in for right now. Anyway go to the eye spots. Grab yourself your favorite beverage. Any joy it safe have fun and enjoy off more grass the kids.

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Bogey Off The Leash

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Bogey Off The Leash

"The baseball tonight. Podcast is presented by linked in jobs. Baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for monday may the tent 2021 producing from today mclean. Virginia is taylor shrink. Tim curtin amid a hotel room here in bristol. Connecticut spent more time here in my house during the regular season. But all good here on friday. We had another no hitter. This one from the reds wade miley. Baseball's fast pitcher. This is what it sounded like at the end. Here's one swing a week. Grounded short farmer. He has it too. I and that's it. No hitter for wade miley. The seventeenth no hitter in reds history. And the first for the veteran left-hander this was the fourth no hitter of the season. The record is at said in eighty four that is eighteen eighty four potentially huge news for sei-yung an mvp candidate jacob degrom had to exit his. Start after five innings. Right hander got the win but departed with right side. Tightness after throwing to warm up pitches before the sixth inning against the diamondbacks. He was pitching for the first time since skipping a star because of the right blat issue. They'll get an mri today. Here's what it sounded like. The graham is coming off a right let injury and breezed through the first four perfectly struggled noticeably in the fifth when he walked three batters. And there's a long conversation. I think jacobs coming out of this game jacob. Degrom is going to walk back to the dugout with brian. Chick low now. The degrom question gets murkier. And here's mets manager. Luis rojas after the game going for an mri just to to see what's What's going on. See how he and have a clear view. You know right side tightness. It's what what we what we have from our medical staff here more so In his lower back area on the right side so but They're taking a look so once we get the results Back we'll we'll know how he is. Yeah it's different. It's it's the right side so but but now it's more like in the lower back area rather than you know a little higher way. Was the tightness. No pain whatsoever says just tightness. That's what he told our our trainer. So i mean we'll see we'll see like i said we sent him to to get an mri Today sunday and we'll see when we get the results back. How white sox manager tony. Larussa says there's no fit for albert pool holes in is line larussa said quote. We have jose abreu end your main mercedes and even if you're mean gets less hot it's a good way to de age other guys get them off their feet. Larussa said friday afternoon there is no fit here unfortunately will russa manage to pool holes in saint louis for the first eleven years of his career before the future hall of fame. Slugger joined the los angeles angels as a free agent. He in larussa have stayed close over the years with the manager. Even joining the angels last year as an adviser before accepting the white sox managerial job in twenty. Twenty one reliever. Shane green has signed a one year contract and rejoined the braves screen. Who was optioned to triple aaa. Gwynedd will need some time to get ready before he returns to the big leagues right hand or when one annot to six oh era and twenty one strikeouts in twenty seven and two thirds innings last year braves relievers began sunday with a four fifty sixty arabs that ranked twenty second in the major leagues so last night the braves beat the phillies six to one freddie freeman hit a home run like on-command this was the radio call something cool happen with the tv call and aaron nola deals to freddie freeman swings outward left this falls back this one's gotta chants goal is gone ready freeman homers on mother's day and the braves extended their lead it is now five one they say pitchers aren't athletes but tyler manson over the head behind the back double play was a remarkable play last night three to swing and a bouncer back up the middle caught by matic wrote a second for one on i do a no look rabbi matt sick not a behind the back and he was able to grab it throat a second start to double play i think it goes one six three wow that was incredible that will be a highlight all through the night fernando to tease junior just crushes the ball on the road this year not quite so much at home but last night on the road he hit a two run homer. Here's the pitch from cueto. One is launched deep to left center field. Doug is going back looking up. Good to go to run homer for fernando tatis junior the padres second to homer the inning. I'll do the math for you. Four nothing said yego in the second white sox. Your mean mercedes just keeps on hitting. Here's a two run double one zero pitch her sadi's swinging down the line and fair baseline one run will come home. Friend doll will store as well as the ball bounces away. From salvador perez mercedes is into third. Another two on the board for the white sox. Five to one and carlos stanton has found his swing again. He had the game winning. Rbi yesterday against the nations' here's the to to to giancarlo swung on line to left field. Wade scores ballgame over yankees win yankees when before we get to buster on a baggage claim monday. The nba play in tournament is happening may eighteenth through the twenty first. It's a new exciting twist determine who makes the playoffs in both conferences. The seventh through tenth place teams vying for the seventh and eighth spots. Some teams are currently playing to avoid the tournament and others are desperately trying to get in at the end of the regular season. The seventh and eighth place team square off the winner gets locked into the number seven seed. The loser plays the winner of the game between the ninth and tenth place. Team the winner of that game clinches. The eighth see. Espn is your home for all the drama wednesday may nineteenth and friday may twenty first and check out the wo- jr pop the nba. Season is coming down the homestretch and no one is more plugged in in our guy. Whoa you can follow the woge pod wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey this is buster only from the baseball tonight. Podcast listen to people. We have a big favorite ask and we promise it won't take up too much time. You know our show is supported by some fantastic sponsors right. Well we'd love to hear your feedback head to podcast study dot com and fill at a short anonymous survey. That's it we swear again. That's podcast study dot com. Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately your flight to bristol has been delayed once again but for your entertainment purposes. Please listen to the baggage claim. Monday edition of the baseball tonight. Podcast with buster. Only the white zone is for immediate loading and loading of passengers. Only no parking in the whitestone. Thank you so. This is a baggage claim monday. I'm hosting for buster only today buster. Where where are you. What are you doing tim. Thank you for filling in again I am at the atlanta airport. And i just want to give pro tip. If you're looking for a quiet place to do a podcast. The world's busiest airport is not a good place. Okay but buster. This is quite a life. You've carved out for yourselves here. Just fighting these little cubbyholes in the most crowded airports in america. How long did it take you to find this spot. Well i didn't actually really find a spot. I think you'll agree with me. 'cause you do the radio interviews that sometimes you'll be doing them from From airports crowded places and you feel bad for everybody around. You feel terrible. 'cause you got people passing through probably coming off a red eye in here some idiot screaming about baseball. It's seven ten in the morning. Right or god. Bless you okay. Let's get to the news of the week wade miley of the reds through the fourth. No hitter of the season that doesn't include the seven inning. No hitter by madison bumgarner. It was masterful the way cut that ball in on right handed hitters to that great changeup. And here's what he had to say. After the game finished now all my buddies left me. And i was like. I don't like that i don't like thinking about pitching. I wanna talk about something else. Talk about fishing talk about hidden. There's nobody to talk to you. But i felt. Dj scoot over two or three feet. Like date was getting more and more ansi for you in the top of the ninth year. You're obviously you guys scoring free and that's great but you obviously had to sit awhile to. That's what i. That's probably what i felt at the most. You're sitting there. I knew what was going on in the eighth but if zero zero obviously Hats off the police act to a great game and nobody knows what's happening. And then we scratch through crossing the in the ninth and it was kind of slow and playing pretty slow. And i didn't wanna go throw in the in the hallway. I was pretty tired and we waste any bullets. But at the same time i wanted to say loose and That's where the pressure sit in three pretty quick ones and Make it happen and bustard talking about pretty quick ones wade miley works faster than anyone in the big leagues which makes him. Every media persons favored pitcher in the big leagues works fast. What did you make of his no hitter. And what do you make of all these hitter. So far so first off his answer after the game shocked me. Because i was not aware that wade miley felt any pressure ever. He's one of those guys. I think you'll agree with me. Who seems completely comfortable in his own skin. Uh-huh by the way he owns the bunch of cows which. I approve of but i was shocked to hear the answer. Because he's always he's always looked like he's completely at ease about all the no hitters. I had a general manager predict me in early april that he thinks that they're going to be fifteen to twenty no hitter this year and by the way the record is eight in one season set in eighteen eighty four up but his feeling was. The pitchers have become so dominant. You know the numbers bear that out that the league wide batting average going into sunday's game is to thirty four. that's the lowest in the modern era. The strike rate was twenty four point two percent meaning one every four hitters is striking out. That's the highest rate in the modern era and this executive and others have said to me. They think that pitchers have refined the ability to spin baseball. A lot of them perhaps using foreign substances like tar is general manager. Said it's like the throne whipple balls out there tim. Yeah and i'm i'm worried for the game in that respect buster. We've been over. This is so hard to get a hit. These days. We have lost the value of the it. We're no longer teaching our players. It's a good thing to hit our hit a ground ball over there through that hole and get a knock. We don't teach that anymore. We just teach them to get the ball up in the air and try to drive it and do some serious damage. And this is why joe must grow. Who's not the most overpowering pitcher in the world. John means not an overpowering pitcher. They're really good. Don't get me wrong and wade miley. When he can again he can carve you up with everything he's got but the point is it's not just the overpowering stuff that is stopping hitters today. It's almost all good stuff. Because they're geared up to hit. Some hard is is throw something soft and they're they can't hit it either and i think we're gonna see several more no hitters before this season those long and i know this is off the topic but james kranjec of the of the unions. He has ten times as many strikeouts as he has. Its allowed. He's allowed three hits and thirty strikeouts in fifteen innings. That's by far the greatest rate of strikeout to hip ever reliever so he might not be a part of a no hitter but aroldis chapman is striking out nine batters for every hit that he allows. I'm not saying this is unhealthy buster. But something has to be done here. Otherwise we're gonna hit two thirty three all year and people are going to be wondering about our hitters while they have to make an adjustment but that's a huge adjustment to make in season timid. I remember when they started last year. With the rule of putting the runner at second base tenth inning You're one of the folks who didn't like it. I gotta say not only. Did i like it at the outset but i think you would agree with me to this point. The cool thing about it is once we get to that spot. It's spurs a lot of action like for nine innings. You might not have that much action but all of a sudden in the tenth inning. It's like what do they do. They move the someone hit the opposite field. What do you do with the fielding. Just something to spur action it. I always enjoyed when we get two extra innings. Yeah i i. I'm still not in favor of the runner at second but again i'm starting to worry more and more every day about the lack of hits not home runs hits and the number of strike as possible. We've had fifteen games this year already. Were a team. Won the game striking out fifteen or more times. I think about that fifteen strikeouts and you win. It happened fifteen times on made the tenth. That is ridiculous. All right we have to switch gears here to another strikeout pitcher. The best pitcher in the game jacob degrom. He came out of the game after throwing. A couple warmup pitches in sixth inning because of pain in that side buster. they call precautionary. But when we're talking about somebody this good. It's gotta be beyond caution. Where are we on. Jacob ground. Where is your level of concern. It's about a nine on a scale of one to ten. Because jacob degrom is the most important person in that organization you know. I picked him to win the national league. Mvp this year. He's as good a picture that i've seen since pedro martinez in the late nineties. And here's the other too. I think you'll agree with me on this. When jacob degrom takes himself out of the game you know that that's a circumstance where he's been working through it in other words he's just not gonna feel one twinge in an isolated moment and say up. I'm done that's something. You could tell probably was building up with them because that's his personality. Tim yeah and that worried me too. He's such great athletes. Such great shape worries me again. Buster jim palmer told me years ago. Our best pitchers are long. And lean and loose like jim palmer dennis martinez from a different era. Sometimes i wonder our pitchers are players are too big there to rip their to cut. And they're they're in such good shape get hurt a lot if that makes any sense and that's what really worries me about rahm This is not the first injury we got a million pictures hurt. What we can do about this. I look there's no way to prove it. But i absolutely believe and i know a lot of folks who work in baseball believed that this pursuit of velocity is contributing significantly to the the number of injuries were seeing A lot of people wondering are a lot of these guys not physiologically built. Throw this hard and it's it's not only throwing one pitch at a hundred miles per hour. Tim they throw as hard as they possibly can. Not every pitch. Can you understand the rationale behind it. But you think of like a if you were to be if you were driving a sports car and you put it at maximum speed you know from the beginning to the end it's going to blow out. Yeah i'm i'm worried about this orel. Hershiser told me once in the mid eighties pitching in the national league when the ball was flying. And he he said you know. Seven eight nine guys i could just cruise through innings royal couple seekers insiders fighters eight pitches out of there. He said it doesn't work that way anymore. Every pitch now is a max effort pitch for these guys. And they're all seeking to throw hundred miles an hour and you're right actually gonna take its toll on all of our pitchers in. We're starting to see them. Go down by one. All right switching gears again. We had this bizarre situation with the mets with francisco or and geoff diehl and we have a bleacher tweet about the whole thing whether it was a squirrel or a possum or giant rat or something. So we've got a lot of romans who got a lot of the game here. Buster do you have any The bleacher tweet asked you have these. You know animal related stories for baseball. Yeah and that Bleacher tweet from regular listener. Amy chapman First off about what happened I think you know it's clear that there was a confrontation between indoor and mcneil. In that. I love the look. Michael conforto his face that s ny captured as he's coming off the field and he realizes that all these people have gone into the runway behind the dugout and then he sprints down there and a bunch of players go in there the previous inning. There have been some confusion between the lender and mcneil and tim. You and i know this. This sort of thing happens all the time you know. There's a lot of pressure on these guys. Now there's a lot of pressure in lynn door. He's off to a slow start and he probably didn't like mcneil's incisiveness on that play and he said something and they went at insert concocted. This story afterward Linda did when he said that they're having disagreement about whether or not this. Big rodent down in the runway was a radyr raccoon Jack scott who's the interim general manager of the mets came out yesterday and said that he didn't subscribe to that That he thought it took away suggested that wouldn't have been the way he would have handled. It may have taken away from win. I didn't tim. I don't care like like they do that. Because we've had so many players the deflect questions about computations in clubhouse conversations in so many ways so that didn't bother me at all in terms of answering amy's question about animals. I special experience with that when i covered the padres and ninety three ninety. Four working in jack murphy stadium that was down in mission valley which it was like an active zoo like every night because there are no fans in the stands. Be sitting up there tim writing game stories and it was like a game. Preserve would come through. The ballpark is a came into feast on on the popcorn in the peanuts that were leftover. I saw coyote. I saw hawks tons of skunks all kinds of animals late at night. What about you. Well these are terrible stories. But randy johnson hit a dove in a spring training game with a pinch accidentally of course killed on the way to the plate. I mean it was. It was worst explosion. I've ever seen. Dave winfield killed a seagull in toronto's accident but something happened with a throw it was awful. I hate that much nicer level and irrelevant level. My dad god bless take our dog. Bogey to watch my brothers play and my brother man was played a college summer league and bogie got off. Leash ran out onto the field to see my brother feel boga. You have to go back to pop down okay. So we love animals. I love animals. I love animals getting on the field. But i'm glad everybody's still say okay. Do you agree with me about the indoor mcneil thing. I didn't think it was bus. Sorry yes that was the most ridiculous. Excuse that i've ever heard it's okay to say. I had a fight with my brother today. He's my brother. We love each other. Were teammates were second baseman shortstop. Different relationship it's okay to say. I got in a scrap with him. It's over with to make up. Some ridiculous story was totally unimportant. I've seen it a million times. Teammates go after each other and the next day. They're best friends. It's okay you did. The braves phillies last night. You had a really cool moment with andrew mccutchen like right off the bat what happened. Yeah so for the second straight sunday He hit a home run in his first plate appearance. And what. I thought tim was so cool. Was in this miked up moment. He was wearing a mic microphone. Force last night was that you got like insight into a great athlete. Something you and. I don't know anything about andrew. Mccutchen standing the on deck circle and the microphone caught him basically saying to himself. And you're the best. You're the best see talking to himself. And then he hits the first pitch for homerun give listen just like on the best school. How bad bad him fun was that. Well that was great. And i think buster in today's big leagues as a hitter. You have to go to the plate every single time. No matter who you are saying on the best. I can hit this guy because otherwise you can't the stuff is so good. I think you have to convince yourself. I'm better than that guy. Sixty feet six inches away because most nights by the way you're not so if you can actually can convince yourself that you can hit this guy maybe it will give you a better Shot at it. And i love mccutchen doing that. Because it's so typical. Andrew mccutchen are years again. Freddie freeman had a great pre-game moment last night with you and a great game so tell us set this up. Tell us what happened so this was a lot of fun of friday. We did one of these. Rapid fire interviews. You're going to hear the whole interview. Later in the podcast in the midst of that i asked him what his plans were for mother's day for his wife chelsea who of course he she is the mother of their three sons They in the last year she gave birth and also freddie and chelsea had another son through a surrogate and freddie was laughing. I said what what you've seen in chelsea. Since these instances the two boys little boys were born and he said bags under is any laughing. And i asked what are you gonna do for a mother's day and he kind of shrugged his shoulders. You know. I don't hit a home run. And and then we play that interview when he was coming up in last night's game in the midst of playing that interviewed him he hits a home. Run of that was beautiful and i love the part where he said. Well maybe i'll hit a home run. And then they had beautiful pause and he goes well. Maybe i'll just get ahead. I haven't had many of those lately either. So and that was beautiful and was so classic freddie freeman. Who's like the most down to earth normal great player. I think i've ever met now. After all these years and that was a tremendous moment so so when he hits his home or buster. Wh what were you doing. How do you react after connected with your interview. Raise my hands in the air. Like oh my god. This happened. And then i was We were talking with producers about chew we cut off the interview after. He says he's gonna hit a home. Run they wound up playing Part the parts of the answers in which he talked about You know his connection with anthony. Rizzo this year when it when anthony. Rizzo called him. Frederick when anthony rizzo pitch to them and that was fun. Fun part of the interview to tim because he made it very clear that late in his career. He wants a showdown with anthony. Rizzo and honestly. I'm not going to be in there. Strolling slop. i'm not going to be in there. Just lobbing the ball in their the way. Rizzo was with me. Made it clear he's going to be throwing hard right. That is so great and and just repeat. I'll never forget when he was mike. That freddie freeman was mike up scored on an infield pop up a few years ago. Chipper jones was in the booth and freddie freeman slides into the plate. He saved and the first thing he does. He turns to the press box chipper. Sit right next to me. He raises his hands. Like did you see me like he's so playful about this which is just so refreshing that a star player can actually have a little bit of fun doing this. It's so great okay. The braves signed shane. Green another reliever for their bullpen. What does this mean for them. Buster well for the braves for a lot of teams boy. there's going to be bullpen. makeovers Relievers as you know our hot stocks go up. They go down. They signed. Shame green thirty two years old three hundred thirteen games in the big leagues a two thousand nineteen all star. He's gonna start at the minor leagues gonna probably get a couple of parents down there. And then he'll be in the big leagues tim. We're going to see this all over baseball where you're going to see dozens and dozens of relievers move before the trade deadline. Yeah i mean. They're so valuable these days because they get so much work and we need them so often. It's unbelievable the amount of the value that relievers have because their starters just aren't being pushed anymore. Which i think is a big mistake. But you're right there. I hope they're all getting paid. Because they all have such an important role on these teams. And i i agree. I think i think are going to get moved and mood before the before the trade deadline and come up. They're going to go down. And this is the best way to do it. Speaking up and down our pool holes f aid by the angels. This is one of the great players of all time for me. Lou gehrig's Greatest first baseman ever. After that. it's either jimmy foxx albums pool as far as right handed hitters. Go in major league. History is totally subjective. This is my list. I would go. Rogers hornsby jimmie foxx willie. Mays hank aaron our pool holes. That would be my list. That's how good he has been is the only player ever to hit six hundred homers three thousand hits and win two world series ever. That's how good he has been and yet he is out of a job. What do you think about albert pools career buster and more important. What do you think about where this goes from here tim. I felt in recent days like doctor. Doom for example was on a radio show with a friend. Burning was the other day in saint louis And he was asking me about. What a potential fits. And y- feel bad saying i don't think there are any fits the other day. Tony larussa said you know be doesn't see fit there. People wondered if albert my wind up with the white sox because the rue says such a high regard form. But as i said on the podcast the other day that conversation about about our go has been going on the angels organization for two or three years. There are a lot of people in baseball at this stage because he doesn't add flexibility In terms of positionally. You're not gonna use them as a pinch runner. Obviously you're not gonna use them as a defensive replacement. I i'm struggling to find a place to actually will take a shot at 'em especially dha nationally. Tim the and i hope he gets a job. But sorry it's gonna have to be an american league team where they have and sorry. He's not going to be able to play every day like he wants. He wants to play first base every day. That's not going to happen. I think he would be an everyday d. age. I don't think that's going to happen either. I just hated when a player can't go out his own terms. Mike cargo told me many many years ago it was a manager. The indians he said never ever released a hall of fame player. Tell them your career is over of add to do that. With dave winfield and said it was awful and i that no one would angel said. Your career is over but when you get released in the last year but ten year deal. That is a possibility. I hope. I hope there are better days ahead for albert pools but if there if there aren't any more days let's again understand that it's possible. He had the best first ten years of any player in major league history and we should never forget how breathtaking was to watch. albert pools. Play at least those first. Ten years with the cardinals. I remember asking tony. Gwynn one of our mutual favorites buster. This was many years ago. I said who reminds you in today's game. Most of you. And i expected detroit or something like that. He goes albert pools and went. What he goes yes. He hits the ball where it's pitched better than anyone in the game. Today he takes that ball away from him and just rifles to right center field. That of course is what tony gwynn did. Hit the ball where it is pitched that was albert in his brown. Humans phenomenal and i can understand. Why why tony with tony. So greatly appreciated albert cried buster. That's enough for you Let's get out of your little cubbyhole at the atlanta airport. Let's get on airplanes and get you and we need to have a long talk. Bet your monday mornings buster. You have to come up with something different than this. I feel sorry for yeah. We'll talk about it next monday. When i'm taking the right back from san diego. Thanks to him okay mustard. Thank you freeman is one of the most playful guys in the big leagues as well as one of the best players in the league and he had a really fun. Talk with buster before the game. What is mother's day mangy you the last several years of my life Obviously about ten eleven years ago it was a sad day for me but now as a over the last four five years. It's it's it's turned happy. 'cause i know my mom is super proud of her daughter-in-law chelsea and and our family and her and her grandkids You know my my wife is pretty special. So it's definitely a happy time now mothers day because now it gets to love on my step mom my wife. All the mothers and the freeman family. It's a it's a special time for us. What have you seen any chelsea. Since the arrival of your two little boys bags under the is it's quite chaotic. At the freemen household right now but just the love. That's all we wanted was more kids because we had a lot of love to give. So it's it's we get one down for a nap. The other ones awake. We got bottles going all over the place But it's fine. It's what we wanted. It's all worth it and It's just there's a lotta love going on right now and we're all excited so this is not gonna air until sunday night. What mother's day plans do you have for chelsea well. Her birthday was a couple of weeks ago. And so that that. We don't get much time with kobe. We're not getting out as much so tomorrow. I'm going to get cards. I get two cards myself. And then charlie will pick out or card and he'll write in it. I got flowers coming I got her a big birthday gift. because she turned thirty a couple of weeks ago so i kinda went big. It was so the reason why i got a big gift for her was because my grandma who passed away last year but she always said it was the one birthday cried at was when she turned thirty. So i kind of went over the over the top with my wife's thirtieth birthday so i think i got some leeway a flowers and some nice cars from from us what we'll get us through tomorrow but and hopefully it'll homerun. We'll go for that. Maybe you'll like that or a hit. Because i haven't got one of those in a while so i'm your little word association with the okay. Okay fred rick oh man anthony anthony a see that everyone's now going on the road and everyone's calling me that Which is great. Because that's my name but sn it called me that we're on washington. We all call each other by our real names. Because i call brian. Call ron ron ronald. They've always called me frederick. But i haven't really have ever. Someone ever called me that in the middle of a rundown in in a major league baseball game. So i actually have a shirt. Now that says. I think everyone saw it says frederick freddie and from results so i actually wear that everyday so that was a fun moment. What was the most unusual place you heard that that new either by player someone on the field or maybe even a fan the fans i. I don't hear freddie anymore on the road. It's always frederick. Kinda turned larry chipper. You know i'm getting my first name called. But that's okay 'cause i don't like the name fred So as long as you. Call me. Freddie or frederick i i love it so but i've always been called bites snits. I'm used to it. But i've never had an opposing player. Really ever frederick before so it was unusual and that's why it was just so funny to me and i couldn't help but laugh when he was yelling at me in the middle of the rundown players weekend baby back year jersey. Well i think if people are really paying attention. I always put a family name on my back. So the last couple. I've been my brothers. So i was gonna do we. Everyone in my family calls my dad papa free so i was thinking about doing papa three on my back because i always give the jersey to them so But i i got a lot of kids now so i don't know fredericks ever going to get on my back but i think papa free is going to be a for this year. How would you describe your heart your showdown with hard-throwing cubs lefty anthony were. That was the hardest thing is. It's a lose lose situation When you face up position player you're supposed to get a hit and then if you get hit yours and if you get out it's the worst thing ever. But he was before he even took his warm pitches when he was hitting. He told me he was coming in the face. Me and i just started laughing. Because i've been thinking serious serious. And then all of a sudden he got on the mound warming arm up. We're just laughing in. I was four four in that game. And i just when you get there. I'm just laughing. I have no approach in just. It was just but it was fun. That's what i said. After the game it's furthest miles. It's for the laughs. It's that's what sports is to take your mind off and things and just have a good time watching an unfortunately. I struck out but i think a lot of people have only positive things about it. That's what it's all about. It's the put a smile on laugh on people's faces. Could there be revenge. Some dan the future weather hitting or see i my. I think if you talked to sniff my one thing in my life is the pitch in a major league baseball game. 'cause i missed a lot growing up Playing for only like two teams wanted me to hit coming out of the out of the draft high school. So i used to throw hard. I still can throw pretty good. But i think i'm gonna have to wait until at the end of my career. I don't see them. Let go on the mound. Because i'm not going to be one to just law it in there. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go for it so hopefully anthony nyc and play till later in our careers and up in age where it doesn't matter if i blow out on a bench player or something. So hopefully i'll get that opportunity and i'll save it for anthony. What was the most amazing thing. You've seen ronald kuni junior. Do on a field. It's hard to hard to put into words you to something amazing you know every day. I've seen him score on a pop up on sacked fly. You've scored on a two to the shortstop. I've seen him hit a ball. Four hundred ninety five feet I see him hit balls. That i usually hit whole side and he hit them farther that way. So it's special and I've always said it. It's just just fun to be able to watch it and be a fan of it. And now that i get the hit second. I got a really good view from the on deck circle so He he's one of those generational talents that I hope people have just take a step back and realize what they're watching because when awesome done he he's got a chance to be one of the best players of all time He he's that special he's that gifted and he wants to be special. So that's a and he's got every tool so he's been pretty amazing as i four years in this in in the league and We got a long time to watch him. Play this game leisure tweets. All right there timmy. It's an additional bleacher tweets. On a monday hawn coming at ya. I got matt at kayaking smith. He writes in lots of talk about low offensive production numbers but we had our fourth no hitter did. Mlb deaden the ball too much. No i the ball has been dead in only slightly. It's may be traveling five feet. You know less than it did at this time last year. And i don't think that plays a big part in getting a hit in may play a part in how many home runs our it but again this these four no hitters. A to thirty four batting average from players is mostly just about how dominant the stuff. Is that these players see every night and the approach that are hitters are taking the approach. The game has told them to take get the ball in the air lifted. And even if you strike out three times that's okay as long as you're productive that fourth bat. That's the problem but it doesn't really matter about the approach until the hitters can figure out what to do with the spectacular stuff so i don't think we'd dead the ball too much. I just think we need to regain the value of the hitch. Which i think. We've lost over the last five years or so so i don't. I can't quite remember where the sweeter tweet came from. But you actually surprise me when you're talking to busters saying something needs to be done in. Someone tweeted in Talking about maybe using composite bats to speed up the the swings of the hitters. How do you feel about that now. I think the hitters hitters bats. Has i think the adjustment that needs to be made. Taylor sorry is something that we have to start in the batting cage with our twelve year olds ten year olds and we have to get to a point where we can teach them. It's okay to hit a ball over there. it's okay to hit a ball on the ground once in a while. That's the only way to ask a player who has been swinging a certain way for literally the last fifteen years okay. We need you to change everything that you've done the last fifteen years. We need you to do it in season. And we want you to do it tonight. Facing max scherzer. Well that has no chance of working. It's late for some of our hitters to change the way that they approach their at bats. It's too late so we have to start with our younger kids and start to teach them the value of the hit and we need to incentivize getting ahead. We need to make the batting championship. An important thing we need to we need to pay them. Forgetting hits not just hitting homers. And that's gonna take a long time also to get to that point. Let's go to. pk steinberg next. He writes in giving a loss to an extra innings with this artificial runner on second base to start. The inning is awful. Shouldn't that quote unquote. Losing pitcher be awarded a no decision. I see your point last year. Caleb field bar of the twins came into a game. He faced five batters situation. He retired all of them but because a runner started at second base he ends up getting a loss in the game. Now you tell me how bad is fair that he comes into a game faces five batters. Get them all out there. No wild pitches pass balls or anything else and he gets the loss. It's not fair to give him a loss there. And i understand the point but this is what happens when we start messing with the fabric of the game and i understand why we're doing it to try to get games over quicker in order to keep players healthy during a pandemic i get all of bad but i'm asking one more time when we get back to traditional baseball. We cannot put a runner on second base to start the tenth inning. No matter how many people love it. And i get it. It's just not right for the numbers of the game and the numbers of the games stats of the game have been so important for one hundred fifty years and they still are today. Let's go to local landed next at local landon seven. He writes in. Maybe the astros should pick up. Albert pool hosts give me a couple d. h. games a week and let your have a few more plays in the outfield. Plus the amount of home runs. He's hitting minute maid. Seems like every time he plays in the park he hits one. Maybe he'll get seven hundred there. What do you like. What do you think about this. Potential lane spot. Well you're alvarez in the outfield is probably not a great idea you'll uriel is a really good hitter and yes i understand. Couldn't admit d. h. For a couple days. But i think you really weaken your defense potentially and again. I love our pools. But if he's going to go the astros which does indeed make some sense. Better manager. Dusty baker will know how to use him but he's such a prideful guy. Just don't think he's going to be willing to play parttime coming off. The bed shouldn't home run. That's important but that's not who album pools is. It's this is going to be entirely up to him if he's willing to take it reduced role a much reduced role. He can continue his big league career. But if he doesn't. I think we've seen him play his last game. And that makes me sad last one four today curve ball when we got started this morning to you said one down stairs. Grab some water. Was that code for running downstairs to grab some diet mountain dew. And what is your diet. Mountain dew set up in the hotel. Since you're spending so much time there No i bring my diet mountain dew with me so i ran downstairs to get some water because i'm trying to hydrate better but i drink a dye mound do every morning while i read the box scores. It's one of my real pleasures in life and you can't take that away from me. I don't have many vices. Just gimme that downed two a day. That's an enormous thing for me. I was drinking much more than annotate so good. But i'm down to two day a drink a lot more water but yes i bring my diet mountain dew dye mound do and my notebook go with me almost wherever i go. And that's pretty pathetic both parts. No i would hard disagree. You know we. Everyone needs a little caffeine in the morning. It doesn't matter face odor coffee man. Don't don't let who's who's the hater in your life. That's like get off the mountain. The dye mound do is your wife. There are a lot of people who are correct in saying you should not be drinking a caffeinated. Drink this early in the morning. But it's my coffee. Because i'm the only sixty four year old baseball writers like a cup of coffee. It's all good. My wife drinks a diet coke every morning so you know very well as household zone absolutely all right. That does it for bleacher tweets for today. Thanks to everyone for writing. In thanks to tim for filling in and hopefully buster. It makes it home in one piece. Thanks everyone thanks. Everyone for joining us here on the baseball. Podcast buster of the back with us all week and i will be speaking to you probably a week today as buster somehow flies home overnight on a red eye. We have to have a long talk with that boy. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball check out the fantasy. Focus podcast wherever you listen. The podcast the baseball tonight. 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Mason and Ireland HOUR ONE

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland HOUR ONE

"Wow. I'm back from the road ground. Yes. That is a that is am not sure the shows are always better when I would do it on zero sleeping pretty close. I have no idea. What time we get about half a voice? So between the show normally when the wheels are how're wobbling when we start the shows are really funny that will be good. So how's trip the trip was ended climactic a very good trip off the court on the court nut so good? Yeah. That new arena and Milwaukee's nights. Yeah. But no Janas Nola Legrand last felt bad for people that that come to. There's a guy that paid seven thousand dollars for tickets. Yeah. I wonder like you told me, and I don't know if it's truly you told me that Bryan Cranston in in network doesn't have an understanding now in the playbill. There was there was a guy. Listen wasn't understand. That's then there isn't understood. But no, no, I'm with you. I don't think that show could go on without Brian nyc. If he like, you you mentioned today that you've lost your voice on Friday. And that's why voices a little wobbly if Brian lost his voice. Yeah. I think they had to cancel the show. But in sports, it's weird. Right. Clearly, everybody went to LeBron versus Jaanus, but they pulled them both off the board. And the show goes all I mean in this case though, and by the way, most shows on Broadway do have understudies, but can you imagine that show without him? I've been to went to see years ago. I to see a Broadway musical cod called ragtime and Brian shirts. Mitchell was the big star. Yeah. I had won the Tony award for it. I'm so excited show up the role of. Cole house will be playing. Okay. There you go. I came here to see Brian Stokes Mitchell. It's not true in sports. You can times guys skip games. Now. Koby won't Kobe. You need to put him on a stretcher in order from s Jordan was at the modern day athlete is not like here's the thing though. I mean, I I'm assuming that when the Lakers report that LeBron has a strained groin left groin, which is the same one. He had rained was out for a bunch of games that that means he doesn't fact have a strain left groin, doesn't he? Yeah. And I don't think he's ever been one hundred percents in the e came back to make a playoff push. Now. The question is will kill isn't a load management game. In other words knows the question is do you? Does he come back and play? Now Luke said last night before the game. There have been no discussions of shutting down. So at least not yet. The growing thing is a thing. Then put Friday Brooklyn's coming in to see what de ngelo Russell did four. I think he's seven in the fourth grade great game for him. But you know, he's gonna wanna put on a show for. Oh, yes. He is. So hopefully the Brian plays. But we'll see. But overall the trip I, you know, nobody wants to hear this. But you understand this better than most? Right. The Knicks game was almost perfect. Yeah. It was awesome. It was competitive close. Yep. And at the end, the Lakers, barely lost and losses are more valuable than winds are very very valuable. The odds are improving every single where we add on the tank thing out right now, you know, when I left we were thirteenth. We're at the very tenth. We're at the very back and how far out of sixth are we who six six this Memphis twenty eight and forty two. So we are three games. They are very catchable. Yeah. Memphis could stupidly win a few of these. And and so the Lakers in case you we weren't with us. We were talking about this for what are the Lakers numbers? Now the numbers on the right? Thirteen point nine percent top four. Okay. So that's up from it was when I left it was like five percent. And now, it's three. Percent number one over and that was one persist for. So we've tripled the odds of sign percent. And we've increased substantially the other one you could get up to if you catch Memphis. If you jump those four teams and catch Memphis. What's Memphis is definitive in the top four thirty five percent in the top four. Okay. Percent number thirty five percent. And when we were at thirteen what was it about nine when we were thirteen it was four point eight percent. So you have almost ten times improved your chance nine nine. You've come over to the idea that this is what's value? Well, it's there is no other conclusion to make and I hate tanking. But this is the way the NBA set it up. So you either play by their rules, or you, you know, if they like I've said before I want fourteen ping pong balls. One team gets each ball right at until they do that this. And I don't think that'll ever have they've incentivized losing. But so okay, you want you incentivize losing. We'll lose every sport though. It's not even just. The NBA. It's every spoil. Baseball. There's only eight to further like the top three teams in the NBA have the same chance in in Ripon baseball. If you're the worst deeming get the number one already people are talking about Miami tanking for two right? And in the case of baseball. We went through the baseball last week the standing I think fully one third of teams are tanking right now in major league baseball could be one third. And until now that number is really not good for the game. Right. And until they fix it until they, you know, descente vise losing than they deserve what they get. So if you if you as a Commissioner as a league don't have the guts to say, we're going to create a system that doesn't incentivize losing you can't complain when teams purpose, but at the same time, there's gotta be some not incentive. But there has to be some reward for being awful, otherwise you can stay awful forever. Rather words, you can be just a terrible team forever. If like, for example, you want each team to have. One ping punk. Oh, you want each team in the lottery have one? I went fourteen team. There's fourteen teams in lottery, right? One of all have one ball. But the fourteenth team is pretty good might be Lakers. Yeah. Yeah. But then they have the exact same chance the sons. So you losing means you can really tough, you can lose all you want. But but it is really tough. But all of a sudden it makes you know. Friday night when the Lakers played the nets. There's no incentive for the Lakers to lose. But for all the they're going to be in the lottery, they would have the same chances. Whether they've finished thirteenth or I with in the reverse fanning so played a win. But if you right now, what incentive do like last night pride. Well, don't you think the players on the floor last night for the Lakers have pride trying to win the game? I do but LeBron wasn't on the floor. Lebron has an injury, right. Do does Janos Jaanus was listed as an injury. Correct. Do you think that was a playoff game between Milwaukee Lakers? Lebron Yannis would have played. I I don't know how seriously injured I don't. I mean, I don't know how serious lebrons injury was in Procedo. Neither it sounds like Janas with some combination of injury and load management load management is we don't need to win this game. So Janas take the night off. We'll win this game. Anyway, so Jaanus go ahead and take the night off. Right. So it'll be it'll be interesting. So you know, what fascinates diangelo Russel? Yes. What fascinates me about the de ngelo? Russell thing is I still think getting out from the MAs gov contract, and creating the space to sign the brawn and getting coups MMA was worth it. But if if LeBron like we're over one on the Brown, we have four years, right? If you wins one title it was worth right K, but so far over one got three chances left. So here's Michael in a lot of Laker fans. Feel like this. Let's just take the MAs Goff part out of it. Okay. Team is better with the ngelo Russell then with LeBron Kouzmin. I don't think I don't they don't have LeBron or looking about in the in the abstract. Okay. But you don't you realize I don't have LeBron who's your choice. No the conditions note. You could you still had room to sign LeBron? If you had if you have Dangelo Russell on the roster, yet inexpensive guy know-how the mice contract again in the abstract. Right. But forget about the Mazda contract. Forget about Kouzmin. But, but you you this is what fans look at you have a fan fans, then aren't looking at the whole the whole the average fan sees cheese. There's our number seven pick tearing up New Orleans, and there are number two pick. Now, that's that's a discussion. Randall the optics Randall they could've kept they could have and how much better with this team be with Randall. Right. But he didn't want a one year deal. And I frankly Laker should have made a bigger offer. Right. And I'm not so sure that the Lakers like when we'd rob Pelinka on. He said we couldn't have. Given them the deal. He got in New Orleans we had to protect the second year. Well, the second year was a player option for nine million. By the way, you even if you had signed Randall to a three year forty five million dollar contract, you still have room for a max player this year. And I'm not so sure Randall doesn't do the case EP deal like one year thirteen fourteen million whatever that was right yourself contract. Yeah. And it gets a little more. He made nine randomly nine Randall's gonna get paid nine and then a player option nine again. And he's absolutely getting paid. Right. So the Lakers could have had a good number. Yeah. But I run soon for max Rob's point was he didn't want to give them a second year. Then give them more in the first year. But they they wanted guys like Beasley and Rondo. And you know, what they called playmakers playmakers the playmaker plan? But you know, what let's see magic said last year, and we'll see if he lives up toys on the talk. It's a two year plan. And if I don't get it done in two years, I'll step down. They don't have to fire. Yeah. So let's see if he lives up to them interested. See where the benches where the benchmark is like is it just make the playoffs. Does back backpack which is next year back back back. Does that mean just make the playoffs or does? That mean advance out of the first round that that is a great question. And I'll give you the answer. All right, cool. What's up? You can Joe by the way. What did you ask me that? I said it was going to answer you were going to answer something about your the producer, Greg. What was he gonna answer about come on? Man. It's not to somebody will send it to to you. We're gonna talk about. I don't know. But in the meantime, while we're thinking you can join our ESPN LA bracket challenge compete against me. Ireland Keyshawn just turned in my bracket if you in your bracket. Nope, I'm doing it tonight at seven pm. That's when all of my computer simulations, very exciting. So they'll be in tomorrow, you can go to Addie SPN, Los Angeles on our Twitter page, and you realize John we have broken the all time record for most people to enter our ESPN LA bracket. Challen good already. We have surpassed twenty thousand people which is huge. All right. And you're predicting that you will finish in the top three again. Yeah. Top-three amongst everybody that works. Okay. 'cause you know, what everybody else does they plug in like multiple rights nine Rex. I'm doing one Joe schmo. One Joe schmo. Two Joe schmo. Three I'm pretty Chaki at the end. But I'm very I think I made too many upsets in the beginning. Yeah. I picked Belmont to win. I picked buffalo to win. I picked Irvine to Wilma play last night. Yeah. But now they're they're picked him to win again. All right, right. Yeah. They played last night. Now, they're in now picking them to win again. I'm picking buffalo to win. I think two games. I like buffalo. I'm picking her vine to win a game. Yeah. I'm picking Oregon. Well, let's let's give it a lex Dopp Dr UC Irvine. And we know I know those guys I m see their golf tournament every year. Rest Turner, the coach great guy, they have Walt hazards grandson, no sheets, nephew is the point guard. Doc Rivers son is on that team. Oh, really? Yeah. And there they're thirty win team. Who won the big west title game by thirty points. And are they not the only southern California team that it's alive in the tournament. I think that's true. And they also have the coolest name in the tournament and Aitor. He an eater Schiller. How do you not support? Yeah. Yeah. I was looking about the origin of the nickname. Apparently. It was the fifties. And they had a contest on campus come up with a name. And they all decided, well, this is the most people are gonna remember this current wizards coach Scott Brooks, former an eater is that right now and go UCI our mind Irvine. There are no it's UC Irvine, and they are a thirteen seed playing a four I think they play Kansas state. I got a good feeling about an you're taking I picked I can't wait my computer. Simulation says about it. Now, if you if you're. System fails you yes. And you finish like say at the bottom of the people who work here. Will you reveal what it is? If it fails, you if it fails me. Yes. Because I know you won't reveal it if it wins because you want to keep it going reveal it if I if you don't do. Well, if I don't do well in the tournament reload. If you've finished behind me, if you have Hugh O'Brien should reveal it will you've never done well in these brag nevers and by because I picked yeah. Yeah. One year, I've filled out a bracket we did this on the plane on the Laker plane and do it this year for some reason, I think everybody just wants the season to be over. But. Because they're disappointed. The it must be a sad plane. It's not a plane. It's a plane that has accepted our fate. I don't think fate is not a good one. Well, we're not mathematically eliminated. But you're logically eliminated. Correct. And I think logic has one out. Yeah. Which is I think part of the reason why LeBron didn't play last night part of the reason. I mean, some of the some of the rotations are going the way they're going. I think that they're they're focused on next year. And so let's see that's why I've seen Wagner and a lot of games. Yeah. You're seeing Caruso game all these guys. Yeah. I'd like to see Andrei Ingram get another ten day. He he he played these five. He's such a great guy. And he played these five games with us. But his ten days up tomorrow. How many minutes did Wagner play last night not a ton? But I would if I had to guess I'd say probably fifteen to twenty. Yeah. Why not play more and move? I made that move scholar. Prediction. He I should have made that prediction of Casey Pierre Lescot scholar couldn't hit the broad side of long. Yeah. Yeah. See I'd rather see MOVA out there than Mike Scala who I don't think is going to be here next year under any circumstances. Yeah. Next year is impossible. Oh, that's right. Six to here. Here's a question. Some of your mind, you said what is the what does back-back mean? In other words, three Bax. Okay. What does that mean though, does it mean making the playoffs? Does it mean at meaning round? I think you're focused on the wrong metric, really, here's what I think. It means. Are you able to deliver a second all star to play with LeBron? Yeah. But if it's the wrong all start when we're not back back back. Correct. But I think that's what magic is measuring himself on. I think can he deliver LeBron helped to be competitive. Now, if that derails if it gets a lot of injuries or something else happens weird magic can only if your front office, you can only dwell in roster construction in coach. Yeah. So you've gotta get a second star to play the O'Brien. I think. It's an absolutely critical summer, if they don't get anybody to take their money, and they for example, that one summer I'll say this. You're not saying this because Brandon Ingram had this blood clap thing, which apparently successfully resolved in surgery, right? But does it, but he tradeable no Brian Windhorst? I heard said all of the rest of the executives in the league are completely wary. So he's a tradable assets might be which might be a blessing in disguise blessing as he was really good. Yeah. But. So if if trade is not now, you're number one vehicle for change. You've got you gotta hit a home run free agency. So let's see what they're able to do. It's it's a critical summer. Now. Here's what happens if you don't get people to take your money. Right. You line up outside Timofey? Mas Goffin, Lou all dings door at midnight on the first night and overpay for him. That's what you're wearing. If nobody takes your money, hit a few doubles. But those weren't even doubles those were those were starting. That's what I'm saying. Those are that's what happens when you freak out hand. Well, the problem is this summer. Everybody's got cap space like everybody has cap space and a among a bunch of teams have double cap space like the Knicks. So it's you know, the the Lakers cap space is going to be competing with everybody else's cap space. Right. Well, what's the cap next year one? Oh, nine okay. So lebron. Projected one LeBron gets thirty five thirty five all the guys on rookie contracts. Make up what you know. I'm talking coups MMA Ingram heart, Lonzo, all those guys can't be much more than fifteen or they're committed to sixty five eight who how they still are paying Dang's contract the stretch. So they had five million with him. Okay. They've got nine million with Lonzo seven million with ink. So it's those young guys are more than two million two million for crews Mathu million for Wagner two million for heart. Adds up to sixty five billion which allows them to probably about forty million. Yeah. Sign Amax player. And maybe even add another piece or you could sign to twenty million dollars twenty million dollars, by the way. All this number stuff. Larry coons gonna come on at one o'clock good got some questions for him the exact availability of dollars. And you know, another reason we were talking off the start of the show that. It behooves the Lakers to lose games. Another reason why that's true is the higher your pick the more tradeable. It is. Yes. Absolutely. I'd so you may not it's a tradable asset. Like if you get the number two pick all of a sudden, you're back in the trail yet. No question, you know. All right. So by the way, what we talked a little bit yesterday. When I was in Milwaukee about the trout contract. Yes. Okay. I want you to pull up Albert pools numbers such flawed thinking. Okay. But but I just want you to pull them up. Put baseball reference Albert pools. And I wanna I want to show you some Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. Okay. So there's a lot of talking about this might trout deal. Yes. The richest deal in the history of American professional sports agreed to not signed yet yet. But he'll sign he'll sign because I think it's a great deal for travel. Well, it's great Dilfer trout. It's a great deal from the angel right now. Here's that's gonna talk to you about. Okay. So that the. The numbers that you would look at for a hitter are basically those four on the right side of the page. Batting average OPB slugging and opiates. So it's batting average on base percentage slugging opiates, I didn't realize this until I went back and looked pools age twenty one to twenty eight and is actually a hair better than trout. I thought trot was better. They're very close. You can call it a watch throw out for small to if you're gonna do this exercise throw out trout's first year the year where. Just ignore it. Yeah. All right. So but then go age twenty one to what's right now. Twenty seven twenty seven okay. So twenty one to twenty seven and those four columns are almost identical. But here's the thing. They're very different players. How let me read you the home run totals for poodles and thirty seven as a rookie than thirty four forty three forty six forty one forty nine thirty two thirty seven forty seven forty two. Okay. How many times is Mike trout hit more than forty home runs? So that's why why are you holding that against pools because he's a different kind of hitter. Mike trout's game isn't I'm going to get the ball out of the charred. But if you if you just look at Opie s and OPB which you would claim is trout's game. Right. Well, yeah. But they're different. They're different. See you're using. Him as the cop. I'm using Tony Gwynn is the com-. Okay. So might try to is going to so in your world doubles would be better for travel. Look look at the double. No, I'm talking. He's trout is never going to be a plotting D H worthy home run hitter. That is not his game yet. But I'm telling you it wasn't pool. Six game hit look at his batting average with competing for batting title. Get the home run. He was Tony Gwynn. But he was he was here's his batting. I forty plus home year after year three fifty nine three thirty one three thirty three thirty one that's competing. He was he was getting on base more than trout, but pool host game can be summed up as home runs. I disagree. Our hitter. Mike trout is not a power hitter. But I what does my trout age twenty one to twenty eight do better than pools h twenty one to twenty if we're doing that comp but the same. No, he doesn't do anything better than pools. No, I'm saying if I go down the PS lines. Yeah. They're identical. Comparable medical, right, but pool halls did not age well as a player because he's a power hitter. And that does go away. He's got a hit a bigger loopier swing? Mike trout is Tony Glynn might trout is a guy who's gonna finish with thirty six hundred thirty seven hundred career base hits. No just over three thousand hits now just over three thousand. Yeah. There's a big difference between challenging Pete Rose and having three thousand hits right? But I think might trop can giants Pete Rhode my argument would be that. If you look at pools and trout in those numbers, they're almost identical. They're the same guy back then. But are you unwilling to accept that? They're different kinds of players know, think trout's more athletic. So if that's your point give you that. But my home run hitter. But pools was not just a home run hitter. He was better. He hit more doubles and Trump he had forbidden average and Trump. He hit for a better slugging percentage every his game was home runs. Wait a minute. You're seeing that you might trout is a contact hitter with an unbelievable feel for the strike zone. Who is going to age very very well as a player, I never gonna turn into a plotting homerun or nothing play which is what tools turned into. But he was never that at this age grow. What do you think? All right. So I think might shotgun is making plays. But I'm with John here. Look if you wanna go wrong. No because look at his numbers you're talking about how he's going to be this guy. That's going to try to clips Pete Rose in this same time here that John's talking about h twenty one to twenty eight our pool has has way way more hits than than trout has in the way way. Let's you know, approvals has never had one hundred strikeouts. Not one time in his career. And that's like the heart of your that. That might trout is a better hitter has better strike zone. Bitter command the straws never had two hundred hits here guy. Dave robberies come out and say the two greatest players of his lights. Lifetime might trout and berry bonds Barry Bonds is not recent. No, no well because Barry Bonds Barry Bonds, but look at like, we're going strictly by numbers by type of player. But we saw what our pools broken down old guy. Mike trout is never going to be that. And by the way, Albert tools still a pretty good player. He's got. He's got a terrible rap for what he's. I mean, here's what here's what hit thirty nine home runs short. It would be if I was if I was in the angels front office. If I was in on these discussions were going to have to overpay trout to keep them because of his current market value. There's going to have to be some dead money on those on track. I don't believe there's don't believe there's money. Look at the pool. The pools let me just point out for pools last year. Let's see twenty eight teen is this pools. Thirty eight years old these thirty eight years old Albert tools last year. How long the country go for Trump to thirty six thirty forty when it's over thirty eight to twelve your viewers twenty twenty six year twenty eight this year twenty eight or he's going. He's twenty seven right now, he'll be twenty eight this year. Okay. So thirty eight thirty nine whatever it is our pools, by the way, who's really good spring became has become a broken down power hitter. That's why it looked so op. Typically looked so bad for our pool hosts, he's really a marginal fielder. Now, that's not going to be the case with my trout. Mike trout plays a high leverage position centerfield right with gold glove caliber skills, and I think yet won several gold zero and pool says one two and pools in anyone want pools when one when he was twenty six and another one when he was but you don't get two different kinds of hitters. I think you guys having different argument. Yeah. Well, you're talking I'm saying this guy is Tony Gwynn and John saying Albert pools. Well, wait a minute. You're seeing that might try to Tony Gwynn. Yes. Tony Gwynn was a career three thirty hitter. Yeah. Pools has a better batting average at that age range than Trump that age range. I'm talking about how they age is a player right pools. Sit in forty home runs every year might trout forty home runs once. But here's the difference. You're saying that as if that's all our pools. Does he hit forty home runs while he was batting third? It doesn't add an over completely. Well, of course, you have an opium over thousand. You're hitting forty home runs. Right. That's where you're slugging percentage comes from. It comes from home runs. He's a guy that the ball leaves the yard and with Mike trout. He does hit some home runs. He did have one year. We're at forty one homers. But typically, he's just a great contact hitter. Yeah. But he strikes more than pupils. He nighttime more than pools way more. You're basically, you're right Mason in the fact that he's not going to break down when this is not going to be a broken down guy going to be a broken dental. Right. Talk of it. That's why pools contracts. John is right though, that our pools was a better player at this time in his career. Okay. So if you were right wouldn't Phut whole strike outweigh more than trout. More doubles pools, more devils or lettuce ripe outs. More hits more better body percents. K let me just make the simpler look at body type, right? What type of body does Albert pool wholesale Sav versus what type of body does Mike trout half? Trae are. Shape differently. One is a big lumbering power hitter. And the other one is a as a contact hitter. Who's got some power, right? But I'm arguing one place centerfield one plate applauding I beg. Right. But I'm arguing that that pool. Your hardy argument is that trout is better commanded the strikes on it. He's a better contacted in the pools. That's incorrect. It's the opposite is true. Trout would have fewer strikeouts in more hints at body type. Right. But what would you would you compare might trout? More to Tony Gwynn body type mortar Tony Gwynn or Albert rules. Will there ever postering both a little pudgy a little pudgy, but album pool is a moose. Yeah. It I just think in terms of body type, and I've listened to a lot of, you know, the BUSTER Onis in the curtains and all those guys and in this is a common phrase will age well as a player might trout will be productive in twenty thirty one when this contract expires. Yeah. I think that and I think he will be top. Have to look at hits totals. But I think he will wind up in the thirty six hundred thirty seven hundred Chile's forty he might pools had more hits per season at this age than trout did pools flooded with two hundred hits every or try to never had two hundred hits matter of fact, one year, I think at two hundred and ten in the same time period. Alcohols never had less than one hundred seventy seven hits. And and so the people forget how good pools wasn't no piss which fantastic. I mean, I remember I remember very clearly he was a rookie kid somebody picked up in my fantasy baseball going absolutely nuts at the age of twenty one. There's no question but his game. He's he's a power hitter. Mike trout is not power hitters don't age as well. As as contact his ad thing. Is when this contract ends you'll be living in a foreign country insane movie dead. Yeah. All right. Coming up next. Major news at USC just broke major news. All right. We got that before you coming up next for. Hey. We're already life is your friends. Life is what all right. Hey, it is baseball season. It starts one week from tomorrow. And we want you to come out hang out with us for opening day. Now, here's the thing. Maybe you don't have spectrum, you know, the city of Los Angeles one I think I don't eighteen percent of the city a spectrum. No, no. It's little more than that thirty to forty thirty to forty percent. Seventy percent of the city cannot watch dot right? So that means you you may not be able to watch opening day opening day. Tickets are like the most expensive tickets of the year. Maybe you don't wanna pay that you wanna wait till later on in the weekend or the second week of the season or whatever it is. So we are doing a live dodger watch party Thursday, March twenty eighth from eleven AM to three PM. We got the dodgers on opening day seventy two fifteen Roseman Rosemead boulevard in San Gabriel. Clear men's galleon San Gabriel. That's where we did our NBA free agency party back in. June, and they do have spectrum you can watch the game as it's happening. We're giving away tickets to my next big movie night, which is avengers endgame, which I'm going to try to twist Ireland's arm and get him to go to. It'd be my first marvel movie how about that. And we're giving away Mason in Ireland t shirts all kinds of stuff. Join us a week from tomorrow at clear men's galley in San Gabriel now and be sure to show up for that thing because I will be in Utah the night before. So I will once again be showing up zero sleep. Wow. I made I made drew to well on no sleep. I may drink at that remote deal for Uber to Sain gave free. That's bringing me back one of the two. That's a long ride up. All right. So I said major breaking USC news. Yes. All right. So USC in case, you haven't noticed is a mess, both athletically, academically, they have a major scandal involving gynecologist where they had to pay out a bunch of Tony bland who is. What up in the FBI investigation of if you want to just focus on athletic aspect of it. They're a mess there. But the whole school is a Matt right? So I made a statement during when you were gone based on all of this stuff. Right. And I said burn it di-. I think you're on it to the ground today was the first step one to Austin. The interim president is out. They have hired a woman named Carol full F O L T who is the former North Carolina chancellor now what's interesting about this is while she was at North Carolina. There were several scandals including sports academic scandal that she oversaw. So she's got some experience doing this stuff. But at the same time, you would figure they would've gone squeaky clean. They did not careful has a history of dealing with a lot of different things while she was at North Carolina. She was forced to resign over a controversy. She regarding a confederate statue on campus. So she's dealt with a lot of controversy. If you know how that went down. I wish she tried. What she I'm sure she was trying to remove it. The I I'd have to dig to get into more details. I'll read a read to you off of the CBS website was forced to resign in January over a controversy regarding confederate statue on campus. Her last act is chancellor was to order that the statue be removed. You would think she's going to be on the right side of history there. Yeah. I think so but civil war is over. Yeah. But it's weird people in the south. I was just in the south people in the south like cling. It's it's weird. They consider their history. They don't their history is traders their history as racist as traders. It's it's their history. This can be done by the way, good for her. And and you know, this has been done successfully in the south. It was done well in Mitch Landrieu. Who is the mayor? I New Orleans very famous ended it he's been an absolutist on this subject. Yeah. He's get them all down. I'm an absolutist on this subject. But. The shameful chapter of history. But the reason we bring this up on Mason and Ireland is I think one of Carol Fulton's first jobs is to fire lens want to get him out on Joe she starts on July one on July two she should announce we're conducting a national search for noth- lick director. The guy would go get if I was her is Mark Jackson, the athletes Richard Villanova who's when two of the last three NCAA March madness tournaments and who has run a profitable program there, and he was trained at USC. Yup. He was there for almost twenty years. And by the way, can we make that not important? I don't care if you were USC not wanna you know. But I here's why what I like about his parents. He was there as an administrator what I don't think you should do is hire another famous football player. All right. The last two guys Pat Haden who you and I have a personal relationship. And who we like an Lynn Swann got that job because they were great fundraisers, and we're famous USC football player. Stop it. All right. You don't need that. More. All right. You pretty knows how to be an adminis- you if you said Jackson, but I also think you know, you don't have to have worked. This is always the USC mistake. Right. You don't have to have worked there too with USC at a private school in Los Angeles generates the amount of money that they do you really could pick from any school in the country and just cherry pick a guy. You could go to whatever school you want and go get him. But it's interesting. So if you were going to say that all right? Yep. You would probably think okay. What are the big schools Notre Dame? There's been controversy there. Penn state. There's been controversy Ohio State controversy there Michigan. You know? So there is there is no perfect scenario for for a president. I mean, these schools have all had issue. But don't you think it comes down to the distance between the offense and the president, right? In other words, the president at UCLA didn't know that the soccer coach was on the take. Or did he I don't know. But Lynn, here's the thing. There's only one school in this. College admission scandal that had more than one person involved in its USC USC, the FBI has investigated three different USC people in the one person who was most responsible for this work directly under Lund's one a one a woman who was an assistant associate athletic director who worked right underlined swan was the heart of the problem. And and he says he didn't know about it. Well, it's you know, it goes back to if you didn't know about it, you should have the and by the way, he had no experience being an director before they hired him. Yeah. And by the way, this happened. You know, prosecutors say that Horia society cdo who is the coach took Andre grant well to take some girl indicate so so this this woman at USC took one point five million. I know. Yeah. One point three I heard, but I it's a lot of money who's quibbling over numbers. Yeah. To me. It is a it's fascinating. How many things have gone wrong USC in the last two years? Not just in the athlete VAR. So she's got a big job ahead of her. The first thing should do if they say athletics is the front porch to your university than she needs a new AD, and she should go do that right away that that would be a huge statement right out of the gate to say, I get it. All right. We're gonna fix everything. And the first thing we're gonna do is get somebody in here who is an experienced let director who knows what he or she is doing right. And that's what she should do. So anyway, Carol full F O L T Gulu away. You can read up on her. Rick Caruso, the chair of the board of trustees announced it about an hour ago that she's the new president in charge of all this. She's the person they have chosen to try and fix the dumpster fire that USC has been for the past two years. And here's the thing. I might vice too careful careful don't. Screw it up. What's screw it up? Yeah. It's it's a hard thing to screw up. USC Trojan alums are very loyal. They're very good about taking care of other Trojans, and they're very good at taking care lower offline and in in more ways than one I in vice versa. Yeah. Half a million dollars. And so I think she's got a tall order ahead of her. But the first thing she's do is get a new AD Damon. All right coming up next. Larry coons gonna join us. We're going to talk about the cap space that the Lakers have available compared to the cap space that everybody says available this summer. Also, I want to know when is the right time or when is the time to give Brandon Ingram that big rookie extension. Yeah. Well, does that normally we'll talk to Larry next Mason in Ireland ESPN LA?

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Parker Inside the (Rob) Parker - Cubs' Addison Russell media overreach; Vlad Guerrero, Jr. debut; Guests: Gary Sheffield and HOF Writer Tom Gage

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We have Gary Sheffield the man with over five hundred home runs who should be in the hall of fame. We'll talk with him also hall of fame baseball writer, Tom gage. The latter reported the my friend, but a lot of your asked. We'll talk with Tom plus, but I it's time for getting rob my take on it three hottest stories in baseball. Leadoff. It's getting rough and keep them up. Rob's hot. Take the three biggest stories in major league baseball. Number one. Does Chicago Cubs are out of bounds foul when it comes to this whole idea that they wanna baby Addison Russell and they won't kid gloves. When he makes his return to the cubs. This coming Friday after a forty game suspension for violating the league's domestic violence policy. And I get it. They don't want people to pile on him when he comes back. He's been through a traumatic moment is situated. This was a fine. Young player who was a star going to be a staunch icago before this incident happened. But the bottom line is reporters have to do their jobs. This is what Addison Russell has to deal with when he comes back is it forever. No. It's not forever. There was a story out there this week that the cubs PR threatening media members who are critical of him. Stop stop this goals with the territory if you get the cheers when you hit the game winning home runs and make the big plays to win game for the cub, you're gonna get this. When you get suspended and people have a right to write about him talk about him. Ask him questions about it. And yes, there's a big redemption story that's going to be out there for Addison Russell, and I get that. But before you can write that store, you still have to cover the fire. That's what reporters do there's no playing favorites and kid gloves for certain guys Addison Russell will be able to get back. And and the change the narrative by first addressing an acknowledging what he did wrong level Porter's white that they'll get that out of their system. And then it can go back to him playing baseball and the things that we knew before this whole situation. So the cubs back off the reporters allowed them to do. Their jobs, and you know, what Addison Russell will be just fine. Number two earlier this week. Angels slugger Albert pools bass earlier this week angels slugger Albert pools pass Barry Bonds for third on the MLB career RBI lists soon, he'll officially become just the third player in history to knock in more than two thousand career RBI. Is it foul or is it fair to call our poo host the greatest hitter of this century, and we're talking two thousand and later, and I don't think it's unfair. I think for some reason our pool holes actually gets dissed because of some of the bad years in Anaheim with the angels and people look at him now as an old, man. Kids. Lord. His numbers are beyond reproach. They just saw. I mean at one time people were saying that Miguel Cabrera was the best white handed hitter in the history of baseball. And I think they forgot about Albert pool. Holes in the years, he put in Saint Louis and what he's done in his long career, go Google his stats. They're through the roof. They're unbelievable. When you think about all the guys who have played major league baseball. And you're telling me that only three players have knocked in more than two thousand career RBI how in the world could you not look at our pool halls. Hey, Garin and a rod those are the guys those are the only people who have ever done it in this game Alber pools is without question. The greatest right handed hitter of this century, the greatest hitter of this century for that matter and maybe the greatest hitter period when you talk about a right hand hitter. When you look at all of his numbers, stop poo, Albert our pool halls number three Vlad Guerrero, junior made his long anticipated major league debut. What a scene it was my goodness. He also wound up getting a hit a double and his first game. But a lot of people were talking about the patient factor. Was it bigger than anybody else's because there have been some players that we have been looking forward to seeing. There was Ken Griffey junior much anticipated. There was a rod Alex Rodriguez people were dying to see a rod when he came up in Seattle. And what about Bryce Harper? He was another guy. We remember him the Vegas kid with a homerun sports. Illustrated cover, but I gotta say this. Vlad juniors might have been the biggest his game was nationally televised with the social media stuff. It was big. It was all over. And then you had his dad Vlad senior in box. Sweet watching his son will cut aways to him. It was as big as it gets. And there's been other players who've had their son's debut win in the major leagues. But I gotta say given the social media aspect and the notoriety and and what he had done in the minor leagues. And how people were anticipating his arrival and it happened in Canada where he was born. It was so big that even the Canadian Prime Minister mentioned him in his debut. That's how big it was it spent two countries the United States and Canada. So I'm going to give it that flag. Guerrero juniors day. Byu was the biggest ever. Hey, I'm Andy if you don't know me, it's probably because I'm not famous, but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's. The idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience, I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and outta touch. At harry's. Our approach is simple. Here's our secret. 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Always good talking to you, man. How you doing? I'm doing gray. No doubt about it. Chef I just wanna get right to it and talk about you and your career, and you know, as you know, I do vote for you every year for the baseball hall of fame. How do you? Do you feel like you got a shot of getting in? No, you're not going to get into tell me your thoughts on on you. Because you have the numbers man you hit over five hundred home runs in your career. You played a long time. You did a lot of good stuff or a lot of good teams. I looked at it. I'll put in my work. I know I'm hall of Famer they know all the famous so it just a matter of technicality. What what was going on with baseball and everybody has their opinions, but everybody don't have facts. And then the bottom line is that I can live with my tax. And I did it the right way. I play clean all my life. I, you know, and I got told him and I'd say you can test me free. But blood for a hundred years if you want to I I don't care. But I like I say, I just know I'm easy to put negatively towards because when you're out smoking person, it depend anything going you. And then then most people believe. Yeah. This that's the problem. I have doing that era of we had a test from everybody who played during that era. Maybe I would look differently and you never even tested positive. I mean, I just I don't understand where guys decide to be judge. In jury. And I said I look at some of the gods. When you see other guys who get in, Gary whose names have been linked. What do you think when you see Pudge in Piazza and guys who's, you know, names have been linked to steroid use Wapping probably like every other player that thinks about it. You know, it it. It's a political game. They let in who they want and they draw them narrative. I won't baseball to be presented, and I was crystal clear net when I was eighteen nineteen years old. So it ain't changed. Now. It just that. I'm not gonna make a fuss about it. It is what it is. If I'm in great if I'm not that's fine too. Don't change my life one bit. Well, you got my vote as long as you on the ballot to ninety two batting average to almost twenty seven hundred hits five hundred nine or be is and six sixteen hundred seventy six RBI solid career a hall of fame career. What was your best? Stop you obviously played for. A number of teams was it winning the World Series in ninety seven with Florida. Or was it somewhere else? Yeah. It was a Florida Marlins. You know, I I even go to show you how this game is. I even called the Florida Marlins. You know to make sure that that was my my team that I so she ate myself with and I brought them their first championship. And I was the first franchise player that they ever bought their that to be a franchise player and to bring a championship there and the called him back my in two thousand nine and two thousand ten season just of signed a one day contract to retire there, and to no avail, you know. So so, you know, I still have love for the fans there, and I'm still going to shake myself there because of them, right? And whenever you want to championship is hard to not remember those moments in those days and the things that happened. Exactly. When you see today who who's a player that jumps out? Now, you do work for TBS post game baseball pregame postgame stuff when you look at. Players today who jumps out. Will you say this kid is either already there star was going to be a big storm baseball. I looked at dot teeth. I known kid when he was a little baby. And and I and I and I used to watch this kid we're around his dad, and and and everybody and we saw glad new year, and he jumps out like a sore. Thumb back in the day like French field. The was he was coming around. And you see them swing the bat, and you say some day these kids going to be up here. But it is a kid. I saw him. I saw him catching grounders and I saw him hitting. And I said I guarantee this kid going to be a short stop in the big league someday. And I thought his dad had tried to play long enough to play with it. But it didn't work out that way. Well, you got a couple of boys who are playing ball, right or the eleven and twelve me about those of you wanna see them in the big leagues. Well, I can tell you my twelve year old today. He he my wife said when he he was a baby any time. We would have a game seven year old and my sixteen year old they wouldn't go down in the tunnel as baby and wanna play in the playhouse. But my my middle son. He always sat up through the whole game with his mom and watch me play. And he mimic everything I did. And and now when you when you Sam is like what my wife said, I thought it would get better as you get older everywhere. I go he wants to be there. You know? He's like on my hip pocket. So so tell you as a love for the game. And that's the most important thing. If you love something enough, you you're going to be determined enough to make it. So that's that's what no doubt no doubt about it. When you see at one point it looked like collusion was going on and players wore being signed this past spring. And then all of a sudden, they baseball owners have opened up the checkbooks. What did you see money, and you see what? Trout got one hundred thirty million in price. Harper three hundred thirty million and Manny Machado three hundred million. You know, and you make good money and your day you made a lot of money. Well, what did you see these contract? What do you think to yourself? You know, I've always always good act that question, and my answer is always the same the same the same way. People look at these contract is the same way. They looked at mine when I was hitting highest paid baseball brand. Maybe baseball pollen history of sports when I signed my first big deal and everybody looked at me the same way. Like, how could you be worth all his money? How much he'll fresh people when you and what year was that? It was it was only seventy two million dollars. It'd be old. Look, I know on what they make it now. So I don't trust me. That's a lot of money. But what what is it the fact that they're making so much now, but that was seventy two million dollars. And everybody looked at me like how could you be worked on his money? And I was like saying the same thing. But it, but at the same time, you know, we didn't play for the you know, we didn't play for that. And that we played for the dream, you know, and and the money com. That's that's why we looked at it. As as we go on. We got about thirty seconds baseball baseball. I think is in a good place because you got a lot of younger stars coming along. You know, maybe you need some more African American. We saw Kyla Murray who turned down the baseball right with the as and instead became the number one overall pick in the NFL does baseball needs some young black stars as well to keep coming up. You know, the thing is about that is, and I'll tell you we're dealing with that we dealing with that right now, you know, when my sixteen year old and a high school, and where the problem starts people have their opinion about why licensed in the game it starts at high school. And I'll tell you these coaches play these kids that shouldn't be playing and he black kids and sitting on the bench and not playing when their better players better athlete, and it's the political game. If the pay to play if I paying the play on travel ball team, then they you know, they're not lend some kids come out for the high school team. I had to go speak on the behalf of a friend of mine that hit they wouldn't let us come to trial because he didn't play on the coaches travel Balkany. And that's the problem. That is not what baseball's should be about Gary Sheffield, my man, thanks so much joining the podcast. And again, you have my baseball hall of fame vote as. Long as you're on the ballot. Appreciate you, man. And and and and and continue success, but. It's time for the pocket protector. Centrum the analytic numbers you need to know. Well, maybe f s one's Anthony math Thurston is his name and Bs analytics is game. What you got for me? Anthony all right today. We're getting some welcome to the pitchers specifically the ones who rack the strikeouts and keep the ball in the ballpark. There's a stack called stip or fielding independent pitching that works just like ERA. But as explained the name, it takes a pitcher defense out of the equation dip, it gives you a great real pitchers performance of what they can control strikeouts walks it by pitches and home runs while not penalizing them for poor defense behind them. But the ERA doesn't do. Now, the wartimes of batter puts the ball in play the west control pitcher has on the outcome of that at that. So a pitcher with a high strikeout profile is going to fare much better when it comes to fifth now, it's no surprise the last year. The Mets Jacob degrom led the league in fifth with one point nine nine Mark, actually. Higher than Ziara last year one point seven zero. He was ridiculous, but he had a common thread with the rest of the leaderboard the top five stip last year. All struck out more than ten batters through nine innings walked fewer than three per nine innings and allowed west than a home run per game. It was two grand Trevor Bauer Patrick Corbin. Max Scherzer and Garrett Cole not bad company. Right by the way, top sixteen in fifth last year. One ninety plus games, lower your fifth increase your winds. Rob. All right. There we go. Thanks, anthony. 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But his bat isn't what has happened to MiG Itam. That you know, that's a good way of putting it rob his bat isn't back. He is back. And he's you know, it's kind of sad to watch because he's trying so hard. He knows the team to depends on him. And you know, the impact just isn't there anymore? He's sitting he's got ten Rb is he hasn't. He hasn't had even in his rookie season. I mean, he this is a guy who's had five APRIL's of more than twenty RBI's and one home run, and he just kinda didn't dunk that into the first row at in Chicago the other day to to right few. He doesn't pull the ball. He's got thirty strikeouts. Robin ninety nine at bats. That's not the Miguel Cabrera you remember not at all. And Tom at one point you remember when he won the triple crown people were talking about he's the best right handed hitter in the history of baseball to remember that talk. Oh, absolutely. And he's still a good hitter. Because he he's such a smart hitter. But he's not the impact hitter. He was I mean, one Rb one home run Ken be icy sitting weighty three and his and is slugging average is in the mid threes. And that's just you know, he he's more like six spot hitter instead of three or four now. Now, I they they can change it can come back, but he missed most of last season would would that bicep problem and it now, and he's and he's older. Now, he's in his mid thirties. And it just doesn't come back automatically. This is a guy to whom the tag is still over a hundred million dollars. Speaking of that the Tigers in ohling and where they are. Now, how people accepted what's going on because it was a missed window there, Tom where they went to the World Series twice a very good team and Monaco's of winning a championship. It didn't happen. How have house Detroit responded to this? Tiger team. So I think Detroit's responded remarkably well. Well, and and what's remarkable patients? I don't know how long patients lasts after after good team. I mean, the the Red Wings are going through that too because they not made the playoffs three years. After after being, you know, the darlings of Detroit. But I I don't see that initially. The Tigers the fans could blame read awesome. It's because they didn't really care for Brad. But now, I think they all like Gardenhire and he does a fine job. But the team's not good. I mean, it got off to a decent start. And it has some certainly had some some pitching and the pitching prospects. Casey Mayes who the number one draft choice went to AA last night and his and his doubled aid. It did you Raby if it should no hitter. And so I I think he's I don't think they'll give them a shot this year or maybe September. I don't know. But that's a name certainly to keep track for the future. But. This is a this is a no name team except for Cabrera Kester Yano. She's after slow start and he's hired Scott boy. So you know, what that means that probably means that he's going to be elsewhere. And it's just a I don't know. It's it's they don't score runs. We don't give up many runs, but they don't score mini. Tom. Would this buffet? I wanted to answer. Yes. Or no. Did Dave Dombrowski costs. The Tigers are championship by never fixing the bullpen. Yes. I would say that's not fair. I think they they're they're more reasons you can give credited Umbro's t for helping the Tigers turn into what they did it then assigned him blame. But at the same time. How did they not win a World Series? You know, if you don't win os six you got to win twelve and then with that thirteen team. How do you not even get to the World Series? This was a premier not just franchise but on the field. I mean, they had that window. They should have won a World Series while they were that good. But they did not last thirty seconds. You wrote day book. You're right working on another book. Tell us about the book you wrote and the one that's coming up. 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Starting 9 Episode 189 - Triston McKenzie

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Starting 9 Episode 189 - Triston McKenzie

"All so would one eighty nine recording this on Tuesday which means that we had weekend baseball we had Monday baseball some some teams at enough day on. Monday but as we go into not no day games today which socks Broken Lock Day gapes. Love Day Games Blake's now yesterday day game. By the way, Tampa Bay rays can we I don't know if we can universally agree with this take I feel like you Dallas a man of great stature in intelligence. Can we go from saying that the Tampa Bay rays aren't just Quote Unquote Hot, and start saying that the Tampa Bay rays are quote unquote good at baseball. Do you think that maybe they're just not hot? Do you think there's good at baseball? They've been good for while they've been good for a while the thing about the thing about being good for a while is that if you're good for long enough. You can get into first place, which is exactly where the Tampa Bay rays. Combination of you being good enough, and then maybe your closest competitor within the division having an entire roster full of players get hit by a bus all. Yeah. That's part again though that's part of the and. I think in terms of like having a first hand perspective of that I I think that you Dallas can attest to that more than anyone injuries are part of the game like that should is going to happen and it's not so much about you know when you're when you're a GM or a director of baseball operations. What do you? What do you think your job title is it's not just hey. Can you build the best twenty five man roster because that that equals championship or is it a? Is it an organizational philosophy where you're building from the bottom up an organization that can win a championship beyond just twenty five guys and and that's what it takes. That's what it takes and if you look at the New York Yankees yes they they've had injuries. Yes. They've had to some adversity to deal with but I, I would argue that just. Being on the Tampa Bay, rays is facing adversity. So you look at that situation over there they're doing pretty good for themselves, and that's going to be an interesting division race to watch as we is it crazy like like opening day it felt like a few days ago, and now we're like about to get into September well, that's that's the that's the nature of this beast. This year obviously is it felt like we were starting the season and postseason race all at the same time and I think if we're being honest and taking true stock of where we started and where we were at emotionally and where we are at now and where we're at emotionally. I am pleasantly surprised. I am pleasantly surprised with how much attention the game of baseball has gotten. Wasn't least surprised with honestly I think how balls deep people are in the season how much they are invested in this season and for every problem, an issue that we had about adding another team to the postseason race playing only sixty games in what that was going to feel like and whether or not we were going to give all the street credit due to the CY young to the MVP to the silver sluggers. Blah Blah Blah Blah. Blah, was it going to? Be a season just with one big asterix ness to it and right now it doesn't feel that way at all. It feels like everybody has made peace with what we have with the way things have gone even teams that only played fucking fifteen games or whatever it is like everybody's sort of is like, okay, we get it. We understand and everybody for the for for the most part has been really excited about the game of baseball and baseball in my opinion has delivered. I would agree with that I I definitely agree that you know if you're if you're someone that's just giving baseball a shot for the first time or maybe you're agile fan that we saw that really cool post. Nine read it the other day someone being like, yeah like you know I'm an older dude now like I'm like mid. Thirties. I've done done the marriage, the kids and all that and kind of fell off a baseball. Then I circled back and you know starting nine brings us back and I think. I think now more than ever. There's more supplemental reasons to be a baseball fan like I. Think if you're just sitting there every night on your couch watching just your baseball team. That's it. You just turn the TV on at seven, and then maybe you turn it off at ten fifteen and and that's really all you're doing. Then I can understand how that would not necessarily get boring after a while but it's a little monotonous and it's a little repetitive and you're just you know it is what it is. You're just you're you're on this conveyor belt where it's like, all right I'm invested our season's over and whatever I'll move onto the next sport but. If you're one of these baseball fans that you have your own team which everybody does. But. You're also checking out all these other teams. Like there's there's a lot of exciting baseball happening all across the country. It's not just. An up will not even I was going to happen Toronto there in Buffalo There's exciting baseball being played everywhere. So I think that if if that's the experience that you're having where you're watching your team at seven o'clock and then maybe you know you're the game ends attend and then you're you're it on the fucking padres and you're you're capping off your night with. Some West Coast baseball and some exciting shit going on in Oakland, and even if you WanNa tune in and watch Mike Trout Ren don't Shohei Ohtani like is like the angels might not be playing well but there's exciting baseball to be had. It's a more complete package and then you supplement that with starting nine it's like okay. So I just watched that I have opinions Let's tune starting nine. See what Dallas thinks about doubts jared agrees with that when j comes back let's see what what nuggets he has to to provide some extra perspective to to these opinions that I have like that's Kinda. How you do it now where and then twitter you know if you're if you're a baseball fan how you not on twitter right now you go and you watch like the pitching Ninjas the world like tweet note highlights that you get like the the Asterisk tour guy that tweets out like the Anti Houston stuff. There's plenty of baseball accounts that. I. Think that's that was what barstool sort of like came up on was. Barstool sports. But the stuff that was making the blog back in the day was all the stuff that like mlb like dot coms not posting the MLB twitter posting it's the inbetween stuff. It's the hey, can't believe they just showed that on camera. Live television. You know stuff like that where you know baseball's a weird sport and baseball fans are creatures of habit and and you know it's like an OCD type thing. So what you'd kind of involve yourself in these communities like starting nine read a page and you're on twitter and you're you're watching the automarket games that's you're listening to the podcast that that's how you have this complete baseball fan package that creates the best possible experience for you because it's just like them just waterfall of. Content the take home message is you no longer have to wait for your show to come on to give you the highlights eight that you hope to get that's not how this goes any longer we are. A Place of destination for you to go and get information opinions highlights how you want them, and maybe if it's not, there are other outlets out there as well. But that's the beautiful thing about baseball and that's what I am really paying attention to this season is I think for better or worse baseball fans and even baseball content creators have come together. And made a concentrated effort to make sure that people are enjoying what's going on in the baseball world right now, and so it's a it's a collective tip of the CAP to everybody in the game regional broadcasts. As we have highlighted, have done an amazing job of giving their fans the feeling like they are there at the ballpark specifically the as broadcast. You didn't have to say that Europe that's very kind of you. Yes, and that's not even my opinion. Those are actually just hard cut raw data numbers those are. Very hard at this juncture to argue the numbers. What is it like? Three hundred, eighty, sixty, percent increase or something like that Brigham? Eighty nine no one's Skelton I. Sorry. I started shortchanging their. Yes. So we're talking about almost you know there's places that are experiencing. Point almost four hundred percent increase in in bure ship, and that's not just about eighteen to thirty five demo. It's not even just like the old folks are like, well, there's a pandemic I'm stuck inside Saul turn on the old baseball game. No it's the eighteen to thirty five demo where there's a near four, hundred percent increase and that has everything to do with I think the players embracing the ability to show their personalities and fans looking for those players and almost because it was almost like taboo to be like, Yo. I got a favorite player and he's not even in the top twenty of the best players in the game. It's like well, how the fuck and he be your favorite player we want to why? Because I love the way fucking uniform looks and I love the way he slides into second base and I absolutely love the way he backflips singles to the opposite field like okay. So He's not a league leader. So he's not none of that matters because their personality is now becoming a part of a reason to be Grossman. Why you can rub gross was on fire I I know he's just like over thousand. and honestly if if it's not little shit like and I take pride in taking a little jabs. Because you're you're being aware we're making baseball fans aware of guys that otherwise you probably not talking about because there's a Robbie Grossman get brought up into conversation. When you're talking about Oakley's you've got like six different guys. You can name before you get to the hottest player on the team right now. These objectively one of the hottest players in baseball. Baseball period. Robbie Grossman but that doesn't that doesn't happen. If one the outlets like us I guess don't try to pay attention to that and try to give baseball fans something else to look forward to this game is beautiful and there's a lot of guys to fall in love with for a lot of different reasons. So you don't have to take the league leader in every statistical category and make. That your favorite player. These dudes are awesome dudes period. We did an interview with the young man that I promise you're going to want to follow and you're going to want to just you're gonNA WANNA be in his circle you're going to want to be around him because what he's GonNa do on the field is probably going to Pale into who he blossoms into in Major League baseball. Super fucking excited. Yeah. I think the cool one of the coolest parts of that interview which by the way is coming up Kristen McKenzie of the Cleveland Indians just made his major. League. Debut. What do you do? Six innings one-run. Ten. strikeouts. Worry about it. Yeah. I know the ten strikeouts part for sure So this dude, one of my favorite parts about this interview is one that you I don't think that you're going to be able to take in but I'll share with you. Because it was more of a visual thing when I mentioned Fernando Totti's junior and he just started to essentially like mark out be like, yeah like that's the fuck dude right now I, I, enjoyed that immensely to to you know because obviously we're a very pro for Totti's junior podcasts and I think that you know when you're talking about this this era of of young exciting baseball players, guys. That are going to usher in this this era of faulk. The unwritten rules at has to happen on both sides of the ball you know and with with Mackenzie being this dude that's like all right I throw ninety six I gotta wipe out slider like you don't know pitchers mentalities differ from position players. That's just that's how it's always gonna be but then you see these guys like, Bauer. Where he's taking this era of let the kids play and these guys are bat flipping left and right like why can't pitchers have an equivalent to bat flipping and it's like well, now they do and you're seeing it. So it starts it starts with one guy and then it becomes a movement and I think that we've Kinda like we're seeing it now and we talked about it in the interview that we did with Bryce Harper where you know I was curious do you feel like you're a little bit of head ahead of your time like you've you've you fit the bill of this let the kids play. Mantra. But when you came in like do Cole Hamels just threw it him for no reason there he just like fuck you I. Don't like I don't like the way you hustle like the way you play so hard and like look like you're having fun. So you'll lights him up. And I feel like we're seeing much less of that and more of the Totti's juniors of the world, which is, which is great. So stay tuned for that interview with Trista Mackenzie because it was it was a good one. It was very, very, very, very genuine and that's obviously very much appreciated. Dallas did you see you see shit last night on the angels broadcast? where they were talking about the RBI the all time. List Jerk Yeah. I mean, do you fucking watch baseball guy? You Watch any baseball you've never heard of Google Jerry He. Ended up have I watched the fucking I? I actually got a little love onto broadcasts last night I sent out a tweet about Trevor Story who is. I want to say this right now trevor stories probably like a top three favorite baseball player of mine right now. Why? Why because I love how hard he placed I like his haircut. I don't think it's a haircut thing. Think you would watch sheriff's story play a major. League Baseball. Game. He's making like web gem type defensive plays as a shortstop as a big man shortstop, and you know the coward can junior is my favorite player of all time. And I also have love for I. Don't know if you'd knows got Alex Rodriguez. When he was a shortstop, not so much as basement but when he was a shortstop that was now fun to watch so I I got a thing for like big shortstops Trevor Story big boy from Texas he's a big shortstop. He goes up there and the tweet I sent out was like something to the effect of Trevor Story doesn't just hit home runs. He assassinates baseball's the HE I. Don't think I've ever seen him hit a home run that was shorter than four hundred fifty feet there was one home run this year I. Think it was. Maybe against the dodgers and it just like barely got over the wall and I was like, I don't even think of that should cow like Trevor Story. I, feel like if it doesn't go four fifty plus that's not a true authentic trevor story home run. So call it back. Ground Rule Double Ball does tend to fly in his ballpark Jer. I. Mean he was at chase field last night and the ball went into the fucking parking lot. Will I'm not talking about all the time. But yeah, most of the home runs you're going to see him hit lot of those come at home. Yeah. It sure like I. I'd say that a player that plays half their season in a certain location. They're gonNA hit a lot of home runs there, but I'm not here. But for the chorus field argument against Trevor Story dogs making an argument against him just merely reminding. You that half of those games that you're talking about when they're played at a place like coors field that is something you do have to page two. Yeah it's a thing. It's a thing I. think it's a it's not scientifically proven taking away from Trevor Story. Think at all. Yeah. I'm happy to have gotten off in a Trevor Story Tangent here because I I'll take any opportunity I can get to talk about Trevor Story but. The reason why I mentioned you know I, I said, I got the rockies broadcast because they showed tweet. But I also an and correct me if I'm wrong dowse I don't know that I am. I I don't WanNa be self-centered here I don't WanNa be somewhere for that. Think well yeah of course I don't WanNa be someone that thinks that they were talking about me when they really weren't. But like I know that they were I, know that they were do. Yeah because I'll say this. There was a lot of people that were having that conversation about the all time. List. There's a lot of discrepancy about it and. To be fair because the angels broadcast was talking about it. The way they were there were a lot of people that did have an opinion or that we're reminding folks that Hey, well. You know the RBI wasn't counted until nineteen twenty and there's a couple of guys before that. You know they were actually knocking runs in those didn't get counted. So you know on this real list quote Unquote Real List Babe Ruth is near the top of that list not Albert pools but on this new list, it looks like they're not you're not running. Albert's number two. I've got some points to make on this argument if if you're if you're not if you're lost here. On Monday night album pool, Sunday rod into I mean retired but our pools went into Monday night's action tied with a rod on the all time list for runs batted in at third. No. Fourth. They're. Tied for third. Yes. So pools drives on Iran sixth-inning whatever it was and the angels broadcast. Our pools moves into sole possession of second place on the all-time Rbi list and I was like wait a second I was like, did he just pass Babe Ruth and then I was like but they mentioned era and then when I shared the video, I shared the video from the the angels broadcast like regional network twitter account. I almost didn't share it because the caption said that he moved into second place and I was like I. Don't know if I want share this video because I feel like it's going to take down in like a minute or two once they realized that this is incorrect. So then I tweeted I mean my tweet was more of a jab at Babe. Ruth than it was at the broadcast. I said sure I said either the angels broadcast fucked up. Or they subscribe to the same theory that Babe Ruth was a fictional character. So there's just ignoring the fact that he ever existed in negating all of his career statistics. So. That tweet did okay and then later in the game angels broadcast well, it appears that some people just don't even watch baseball like why don't you google it and Blah Blah Blah and they're trying to explain it like I knew about the nine hundred and twenty thing and a bunch of people obviously you know pointed that out immediately after I sent my tweet, my tweets still stance like they didn't recognize RBI as an official statistic. Until Nineteen Twenty Okay, and then from nineteen twenty, two, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, there was still some discrepancies fine. You go to baseball reference and there it is Hank Aaron Babe Ruth. Babe. Ruth right there number two album pools who's number three and the whole thing about like. There's this thing called Google if you wanna Google it is what they said in the broadcast and they're like well. Major League baseball recognizes this as our pools being second. So I was like all right major league baseball recognizes it use Google. Okay. All right I'll google and I'LL BE DOT COM all-time. Rbi. List Click Click and I see the list of RBI leaders all time. All right perfect major league baseball's official website. Let's. Let's look at that right now. Oh, looks like Hank Aaron. Babe Ruth, and then pools. So according to the angels broadcast, all I had to do was used the Google to to research this and if I just taken, the twenty seconds is they said to research this than I would have found out that it was our pools who is second on the list but on the major league baseball official website. It says that Babe Ruth is second and and you know me Dallas I'm not one to die on this hill. I don't want to die on the defend Babe Ruth. Hill. That's never been a hill that I've even wanted to take a nap on never mind die on you can. They've gone you out here in Jordan fucking Herman Ruth and I didn't want to do it but like hello and and I love our pools. So I think that this would have been perceived much differently. If it were the other way around. Like. A famous Yankee in his spot and then our pools a legend like if I was trying to say if this was the other way around and I was trying to discredit a Yankee for being second then everyone's like all you're just being biased I think Babe Ruth was a fictional character i. don't want to acknowledge the fact that he's second ahead of Albert pools. I'm just an unbiased national baseball journalists and I'm trying to do what's right and what's right is acknowledging that. The RBI statistic wasn't a thing until one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty. So they didn't acknowledge it back then but we have baseball reference. We can go back into these old box scores and now that it is a statistic Rican acknowledged that even though it wasn't a statistic before that Babe, Ruth still drove in runs he did he drove in runs four RBI was a statistic, gut so let's give him those rbi here because they happened. Here's a question hold on and I. At. The risk of sounding extremely stupid and ignorant here. So they're counting the whole. Hands or any of the home runs in his home run total not counted before nineteen twenty no, no home runs are counted. So those count as RBI. Runs that are bad at in yes. Someone had the the tweet I saw this morning was like. Before Nine Thousand Nine Hundred Twenty Babe Ruth manage to hit X. amount of home runs without ever driving run. Yeah okay. So that's that's that's one that's that'd be. Like seriously am I. Am I an idiot for asking am I am I a complete moron birds for trying to figure that out not for asking the question? No. Okay I. Am I complete Moron for trying to figure that out like am I dumb for that? Not Making since at Right. Off The bat like hold on if he hit. Thirty. In. One thousand nine, hundred nineteen that would mean that there were thirty runs batted in at least. At least. And we're just what are we doing what we're going to put that number in the home run total category but we're not gonNA put that number in the runs batted in category. Yeah. I don't ask why I don't understand what makes sense is okay. We get the back story we get it. You didn't Rbi I wasn't a statistic until nineteen twenty they fuck and happened Babe Ruth played after nineteen twenty and before one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty we. Can Go back into the box scores and see that he drove in runs. So we can go back and be like these would have been RBI. So now that we have this statistic, we can retroactively give him the RBI that he earned in his career. So I don't know why and twenty twenty we can't acknowledge the RBI that very clearly had in his career because lights and nineteen twenty because what are we doing? We're cutting out how many? How many all eyes are taken away from the baby at that point in time Let's find out I'd say plus. At least I mean because he was pitching also during. The those earlier years. Okay. The RBI wasn't a statistic until nineteen twenty then in nineteen. Thirteen Yeah we're looking at from Nineteen fifteen to nineteen, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, he accumulated. Over one, hundred, almost two hundred RBI is over two hundred dollars is. Counting like and even when you're not. Going to, click on. It when you click on the links to baseball reference from time period to time period and it's supposed to add the total amount of predominant in twenty four. Rbi. But when you just said, it only gives you ninety five says it says two, hundred, twenty, four per one, sixty to ninety, five average for five. Total to twenty four. To twenty, four. Rbi they're just not giving to. Ruth No two, hundred, twenty, four, count them up. Yeah. A lot of blocking. It's also that's that's what fucking baseball does. Though because you've also got guys like Josh Gibson Right and Era League records that are never going to be. Paid attention to or given credit to or whatever. But Josh Gibson. It got how many home runs eight, hundred plus home runs they're not gonNA give it to them. Like they talked about his power dwarfing that of Ruth. Dwarfing. The Sky she hit. wiki stadium. Yeah. And? Baseball just like baseball. Yeah anyways. Congratulations Sabah pools. Career. To. Timeless right now and if you're listening to this And you've already seen morning with this morning then Gherardi well, aware. But. Please go back to his baseball reference page Albert Pools, and just look at the first ten years of our pools as a major league baseball player. And Fall in Love I. Think I can't remember I mean this was this was years ago when it was actively in the peak or kind of in the peak years. But there was like a statistic of these are the x amount of guys that have put up. You know the number like sit comparable numbers for this many consecutive years and it was like Ted Williams and like Hank Aaron, it was very, very, very exclusive lists to be on. There is a time when Albert Pool we're talking about, okay You know who's the best right handed hitter of this generation? Is it Albert pools or is it Miguel Cabrera and I would say that our pool deserves to be in the conversation of like Where does he belong in the Pantheon of greatest hitters who ever lived like? It's ever it? Yeah. Like it's not about like generation thing like Albert, pools You could make the case of where where does where's the cutoff is he had taught twenty baseball player of all time like is obviously the wins above replacement. Me If you want to talk about like it's semantics at that point like top twenty baseball player of all time but the atop twenty hitter of all time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean three right hander hitters of all time many. Megi. Pool He. Pool Yeah. Like like who else are you throw it in that conversation right away. For right handed hitters. Like. Dimaggio like even then you kind of look at. A. Pool says numbers like I would like to see where they stack up historically, I give just from like a right handed hitters. I'm sure we could get that information. Right handed hitters. I just. Waited runs creative plus like. Plus because once you start comparing like our pools to Joe Dimaggio now you have to use like ballpark adjusted and it's it's hard to compare Ariz-. We get that we also talked about a guy and Joe de who went off and just you know was a fucking war hero. Yeah. So like said Williams and he's still had four, hundred, five, hundred, twenty, one home runs. Let's not forget what Jodi hit. How many how many homers jody you only you as much of. An. All right. Decent mean. fucking homerun hitters. You see what's going on on the sell side. Yeah Jose Abreu you I mean good for this guy because you know he, he's obviously a dude that found a home in the south side of Chicago and he's comfortable there but he stuck it out and some fucking trash ass years for the white sox and now he's finally finally he's getting to enjoy the fruits of his Labor and it's not one. Of those things where and how how often or how many examples can we think of where there's sort of like this cornerstone I don't WanNa. Say Face the franchise but kind of like that like a face, the franchise cornerstone player on a team that sticks out for so long and then the team is finally good canal they've had that. Guy. Paulie, Kinetico. I'm talking in sports generally maybe like Ryan, Zimmerman with the nats. dudes that just stick it out with their team, and then they finally get a good team and to be able to see Jose Abrego. Not just like on the back end words again, I'm still here and I'm still I guess to some extent a part of this David Wright in fifteen it's like I'm still part of this but I'm not really contributing but I'm on the team but I don't feel like I'm on the team. It's not that at all like Jose Abreu is fucking mashing homers at a historical pace and not just not just for the Chicago. White Sox he's doing it against the Chicago cubs. I mean I, can't even because I'm not in it like I'm not I'm not a white sox or cubs fan I appreciate both teams I watched every game of that series I can only imagine. What a cross town rivalry is like. There's a power struggle right now jeered. Our struggle in. Chicago there. Are Folks are trying real hard to not let other fans in that area. Forget about Twenty Sixteen Hey you remember twenty sixteen you remember what the cubs just did were that club were the team we are that fanbase we are here we are going back into the shadows and the Chicago White Sox are saying you know where we've been you know where we come. From and do you know where we are right now we're not going quietly into the night. You sons a bitches. We are here to makes a buck and noise and they are making noise. They've got the players to continue to bang the drum think about the Tigers Miguel Cabrera J. D. Martinez Nick Castanos what Miguel Cabrera meant to those two dudes at that stage. In their career, right they had a front row seat to watching as we just laid out potentially one of the greatest right handed hitters to ever play the game and they got to learn from that dude and I promise you right now folks you go back and watch early video of McGill Cabrera and then you watch jd Martinez come up behind him you're looking. At. A fucking many. Megi and then you watch Nick Castanos come up behind JD Martinez and you're watching a mini hybrid of Maggie jd in Nick Nicosia's and it's no mystery to me why Nicosia knows leaves town and continues to fucking rake and it's no wonder that Jd Martinez Leaves Town and continues to fuck rake you WanNa know who I give that credit to. Who Ladele Cabrera eaten those guys have the talent they have the skill set and they have applied it who was somebody who probably helped them on earth that and showed them the way. Miguel. Cabrera Jose Abreu right now has two guys in his lineup maybe even three that he can be that for as well and you know what I'm talking about Eloy and you know I'm talking about Robert and there's also a guy. There's also guy named you on Moncada. What about Ta? O, F. T T as different just because I think of the responsibility that he has at the top of the lineup. But that does not mean that there's nothing to be taken away from a Jose Abreu and the only reason I separate those two guys is yes, I think about. A A Cuban guy in a you having that same kind of impact on his countrymen right on Robert on Menez and now there's like an extra layer of. Camaraderie an extra because the struggles to get here they don't have to explain them. They know what those battles are like. So the appreciation of being here is something that they all understand and. You have to like, eat his passport avoid getting. Some Razi like that. Pretty? Sure. He ate a passport to avoid something. And now he's now he's now eating really fucking good. Yeah. Now is eating you now is eating fastballs bucket breakfast but. This lineup can only get better in my opinion and can end because they have the opportunity to benefit from a leader like a you and trickle down effect is very real. Looks no Missouri he's on the shelf. Yeah. That's another guy that could that could benefit from that. Chicago White Sox first, Baseman Jose Abreu told the Miami federal jury Wednesday that he ate a chunk of a fake passport while flying to the US. To cover up his illegal travel as part of a Cuban baseball player smuggling operation. This was from March twenty seventeen. I believe that I believe A. True Story. Yeah. I was almost not allow I almost got into some very, very, very serious, very major trouble in Cuba before we were allowed to go to Cuba actually as American citizens, this is not surprising. Continue Myself and Brian Wilson found our way. To Cuba, and. Let's just say as soon as we arrived, we realized. We were in deep shit and for me that all started when my passport got stamped. At The customs insurance and they give you a separate. Piece of paper for them to stamp so that you can show anybody who might have an issue with you being there that you did come through customs, but they don't stamp your passport or they didn't because you would not be allowed back in America because that's treason if you go to Cuba and like log that and come on back like and rub that in the face of the US. So I was having like major issues like communicating with the lady at the customs and I told her I. was having had that paper that you're asking me for just stamp the bucket passport like this this is what I've been doing everywhere Stanford passport. So she kind of looked at me it was like all right, stamped it I went on about my business and as we tried to leave the country. Oh No, no, no, no, no, no no you why boy with the funded stamp in your in your passport, you're gonNA come with us. You're not going anywhere and I like Bro we were almost stuck in Cuba. Done nowhere to go no money, no phone. No anything could go. Add had absolutely nothing on the streets of Cuba myself and Brian Wilson, how you think honestly, how do you think you would have done in Cuban prison? And I'm not telling you that I'm becoming a prison gang leader in the first forty eight hours. But. I'm assuming that if it's you probably would have would have been like this is the road to go I'm going to survive all. That's absolutely the The road you go. You gotTa make friends very quickly jared. So I would just do anything everything. I. Can to show them that I love to talk the game of baseball and maybe you just put me in a corner and you know for two hours a day. I give you all of the baseball conversation you're looking for in. And then for that I get to eat and you just leave me alone there. You don't get to like steal my corn bread off my plate, and maybe like a take my toilet paper and you know stick my toothbrush up your ass like me that's something that doesn't happen. Try Not. Yet don't don't ration me anymore. We're already up against it here in a prison cell in Cuba. Let's. Let's just talk baseball leave little like I love sound. Trevor. Bauer this fucking guy. Again I think we've Lost Him I. Think we've Lost Him I think Trevor Bauer is gone and he's just gone full Kenny powers at this point where. In terms of. We talked to him about it a couple of weeks ago, trying to go viral during his starts. So now we're seeing the first example because he was shoved everybody's ass. There is first four starts you can do whatever you want. If you're out there throwing complete game one hit shutouts and setting strikeout records but. In his fifth start, which she did set the Cincinnati reds record for most strikeouts by a reds pitcher through a first five starts he did set that record but. You also got knocked around a little bit and he gave up four runs in the reds lost the game. In the process of doing that while he was striking guys out, he had this little thing going on with Budweiser, where Budweiser said, if you break the reds single season record for strikeouts through I, five starts, we will release a Cincinnati. Buds beer can. So, Bauer was out there and after one of the strikeouts he's chugging and imaginary beer on the mound and he struck someone out went to the back of the mound and and wrote buds on on the mound. Drill be he drew a be? And then continue to punch guys out. Drop and then he wrote a you. Yeah. Then he wrote a d. you wrote an s at the end. Yeah I feel like that's that's a move. You probably do at home like vomiting opposing. It sure. I don't know how crazy I am about that like if I if I if we're the home team and you're doing that on my mound Dallas, I feel like you know you don't even like people breathing on your mouth. So I don't know that if you were starting a game, you would have been too fond of someone you know playing hangman on the mound it's tic-tac-toe I'm probably dragon my clete right through the fucking middle of every letter he wrote on the back of that. Yeah. So I think I don't know which brewers pitcher was, but then they like scrape it out and he Changed it to like bum. I did see that no does that happen I thought I thought I saw that happen. Yeah. I I was watching the game but I was also interview so I think I saw a clip of it where one of the brewers relievers like scraped out like the Diaz and put a an m. there to bum the Alex. so I guess I'm curious how you feel about the The hangman on the back of the mound with buds almost like a promotional thing and then also how do you feel about Bauer doing like the the celebrations for strikeouts when he lost the game and gave up four runs Well that's all about the whole home job right and kind of knowing when to do it and down by seven. You, Solo Jack late in the ball game. I don't know like the pinch factor probably somewhere around a five, maybe maybe even a four. But if that's a solo homer to bring the score within one, you guys have got a real chance to win the ballgame. Throw your off roof of the fucking building I don't care. But that's Doubt again is starting to get into that unwritten rule area and that have a feel for what's going on area and. You have to walk a fine line when you're trying to get people to have a feel. Also, asking people to just be themselves because we'll just going to be myself. What if I personally don't care that my solo homer down by nine does do shit. I'm square that thing up and I'd like to celebrate right now and that's where you're just okay that's fine. But can you have a feel for the situation right now? That whole idea of reading the room just to take the temperature of the situation right now is your Solo. Jack Down by nine something, we need to be making you the center point and the focal point of this game for right now or can you make your three left turns thank God fist-bump. Let's bashing dugout and and and move on, and that's where game is at right now as you got a lot of folks who were like Yo, the game is changing. Didn't celebrate down by nine and their Solo Jack and the veterans and the old school folks are saying look that might be a little too far. If you're asking us to embrace these personalities where commanders in is just fucking grow hopping as bat from home plate. Oh Okay it's GonNa take a while but but we're here for that conversation and I think what they're asking is some some give and take. If you Anderson. Crow, hopping. backflip. Can you also listen to how that might not be acceptable or be a huge fan of down by nine late in the ball game. Can we have that conversation and if we can great but if we can't, we're just digging are hills in San Notebook you fall over the personality. This is what you're getting. Well then we're always going to have that that clashing of the old school and the news I think I'm someone personally who has seen the light You know having talked to guys in that position that I've never been in never will be in. Now you hear. A guy you mentioned Tim Anderson. So Tim manner since like yeah, I don't hit a ton of home runs. I don't know if you've noticed, but it's really fucking hard to hit a baseball at the big level. So if I hit you know fifteen home runs like I'm going to celebrate all those fifteen home runs. Because it's so hard and they are so right. You play one hundred and sixty two games you get like five, hundred, six, hundred, sometimes seven hundred plate appearances and you home run ten or fifteen times. That's that's a rare occurrence you enjoy that shit no matter what the score is because you accomplish something that is very, very difficult to do so me. There's stuff that goes into that though let me explain this and. For, answers might hear about. Pitching to the scoreboard what does that mean? Well. That means if I'm a starting pitcher and again the scores eight nothing on throwing a shutout right and I'm GonNa keep slicing and dicing I'm Gonna I'm GonNA throw my three to change. Because I've got a fucking shutout going and that's what's been working all day Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Well let's say we're in a blowout it's sixteen to nine. And you've got a reliever coming into the game in the sixth inning and he is just first pitch slider I pitch slider is walking people throwing his breaking ball and basketball counts almost afraid to come into the zone. Right there's a feel that game and it's almost A. Can we just get this fucking game over with and how do we do that and from a pinterest respective throw the fastball get ahead with the fastball. Let's move the fast ball around but working on a three and a half hour ballgame here it's the seven dinning. Do you really want me out there throwing fucking two one sliders three one sliders and today's game saying, yeah, those are my numbers. That's all I'm GONNA get paid. I don't care that it's sixteen to nine. I need to get outs and the old school is saying yeah but you know what? It's fucking getaway day and if you're out. On with your slider and you just can't figure out how to get out with your fastball at the big league level right now that maybe you don't fuck belong here and dot conversation is real whether or not you agree with it that's that's a totally different thing but those conversations are very real and there's a feeling that game. So when somebody comes up and hits a home run in that type of game, it's almost Like. Let's just keep it Movin keep it going Oh. Wait it's sixteen to nine but you WanNa make this about you right now we got a guy out there who's just trying to throw fastballs get this fucking game over with he's not trying to trick fuck anybody and you get a heater and you jumped ship, and now you're GonNa make it all about you like the game is quite literally been geared at this point. For you to be doing something like that. So if in fact you do do you have the respect in you or do you have the feel of the scenario right now to not go super duper game time post-season backflip and just go one of my fifteen homer backflips here. And that's the gray area we're in right now but I just want folks to understand that that game flow exists and that's why. The arguments about showing motion. Is because there's a certain way that people feel like you should be losing at a certain way that people feel like you should be winning. Let me ask you this. Then 'cause I I get your point about like you know there's a time and place. And there is a level of being able to show respect to the pitcher. So. I think what would sort of rub me the wrong way is a if let's say it is the sixteen to nine scenario and The other team is just trying to get the game over with and. Let's say Tim Anderson Hits a home run. And he flips the bat but he looks at his dugout I feel like that's the big difference. Maker is like I'm going to celebrate with my teammates Yup from afar versus like I just fucking crush that. into the nineteenth row and then I'm GONNA, stare it down and then I might take a peek at you because like I wanna I wanna like have the satisfaction of knowing that you're devastated that I just did that to you and then I'm GonNa take my time rounding the basis like that's the difference like that's the difference where. So that first one that I example is to your point is saying. That's right. Boys we are. On, we are doing work. Today's been a great day for our lineup and. I'm here for that I understand that I, respect that I get it. I fully get that. On the flip side sixteen to nine, and you just hit a three-run homer to make it nineteen to nine and you make me the pitcher apart of your celebration. Now, that's where guys get rubbed the wrong way right and and so I think people are trying to make that transition. Jared they're trying to because you're asking competitors. In the heat of the moment to not take something personal, they've just failed. They have failed their team. They've let their fans down. They've let a lot of people down by giving up that homer late in the ballgame even when it's sixteen to nine. So the last thing they want is to become target practice for the opposing team's Dugout and the guy who just turned their shit around. But if you can understand that they're not talking shit on you bro, and yet you know you're terrible in this moment in time because you just gave up a homer, that's how that works. That's the give and take of giving up long balls is just suck right then and there that doesn't have to be the narrative moving on but you need to understand that that's real right now. So let them celebrate their success or understand that that's what's going on there celebrating their success they're not dragging their nut sack across your face. So to bring it back to the main point of how we got here, trevor? Bauer. You've we've seen backflips in in you know guys showing. Durr's for for years now and pitchers just Kinda take it. They just Ek some guys will bark back at Ya. You Know Mad bumble tell you shut the fuck up run first base like the like you know there's guys that will say. After the fact but never before have, we really seen a pitcher bat flip equivalent and I'll take Papa Guerande Jose. Verdy member Valverde and like I don't know. The. After completing and inning like you'd see like Fernando Rodney do like the Arrow Avelar, the innings that's not like a backflip equivalent. Go Look at Pedro, pointing to the sky comes off the mound. It's no different. That's why you go. Look Jose Valverde Celebration for the folks who are unaware of who that is. Jerry. What's what's vice you Google? Right? Go use the Google Machine Google use Google machine look a abor and Pablo Guerande is going to bring a smile to your face. You have a perfect season. believe so. Tigers did he yeah was because he came on right after Joel Samaya was on the shelf right I. Know I either way one year in two thousand, nine look about while explained to the fans that Jose Valverde is a guy who closing ballgames. Very, charismatic a colorful character but was just that a character he even talked to him about how because of who he was personally and maybe off the field, you wasn't somebody that was trying to rip anybody's head off he wasn't somebody that was. Trying to try to take food out of your mouth on the baseball field, he loved the game but he knew pitched the ninth inning. I've gotta be like I gotTa. be a different animal I gotta be a different cat. So he is out there dancing on people's graves and that for me was really exciting to watch because that was the first time that I felt like a pitcher was taken up for everybody else who's ever stepped on mountain and felt like just screaming. Balk. After a punch out and doing something. Awesome. But knowing you can't because our gain has raised that way. Yeah. Two thousand eleven. Jose Valverde was forty nine for forty nine in save opportunities special. V. For Cy, young, voting. Who My favorite? Like save completion celebration was of all time. Who It pissed off a lot of people, it pissed off a lot of white people. He's definitely I think he was probably in the League when you were in the league. Go with. This is only a one time deal, but can we remember our oldest Chapman doing a fucking somersault? Just doing a bucket front flip. When the fuck was that was it wasn't a chapman. A. Somersault. Yeah. Early on he saved a ball game and like did a fucking somersault off the mount. Did like a front live on the ground. So to give you some perspective, the no the Perfect Game Dallas was two thousand ten. Yes. Who's what you're doin' yours was two, eight, hundred, nine yes ten ten. Okay. So the year that you through your perfect game. The closer that I'm talking about led the League in saves with forty five. In the Al.. FOC and it wasn't. And it wasn't Rodney? No. No. I've no idea is a team Rodney pitch for I. Know that that doesn't really help see pitch for a lot of teams. Routine Basel I have. You'd I have no idea? What do you got using all star? That year? He was thirty years old. It is. Rafael Soriano Oh. Wow. He would punch guys out. Oh take his. FUCKING UNTUCKIT Jersey be like you're not even worth my day works over about the put my feet up on the table. Yeah is done were. I can't like. How do you get offended by that I? Mean it's the game is over I am putting my feet up. Thanks Agean how many old white dudes were screaming at their television. The same crowd that liked tells, Fernanda Rodney to put his hat on straight was for sure freaking out when Rafael Soriano on Touches Jersey. On the mound that's what's funny about you know being a player at that time and playing I was nowhere I'm not a media member not any not even close. So I'm not paying attention to the opinions of like outside fans and who they're all and who they're not because of how they're acting or whatever and for me. I I appreciated that I. I because that's how I thought about. It was I'm putting my feet up on your coffee table. And he a lot fetching fucking dinner. In June to the tune of a league-leading I, believe forty five saves it was in two thousand ten. Thousand Shit that's the shit you like to see. Well I'm sure if he could. He'd be walking off the mound. Nice. Body armor is mouth. Before talking about how awesome body armor is because it is, and again, if you're not drinking orange mango, what the fuck are you doing that picture on layer is by the way. What picture? The picture that I have of you that I will post later today. Of you that I screen shotted during morning would where you're holding a bottle of Orange Cowrie, your face looks like this. It's much love body. And and you know that and you know that but I gotta give shout to the grounds crew real quick because I don't know if you saw this. Dallas. But I started a bobblehead collection. How's that going for you by the way? Awesome. Is going great. I had a few. I. Mean obviously most of them were red sox but like I have like. The whole idea is I'm. Collecting bobbleheads of every guest, we've ever had on the PODCASTS. Bless you. Thank you for blessing me. So I'm collecting a bobblehead of every guest that we've ever had on the PODCAST, I'm sitting there. Making a list and I was like Goddamn. We've had a lot of people on this podcast like I didn't realize I mean, I, think we've pretty much had a guest every single week of our existence like I don't think like obviously when we go to two episodes a week during the season. We don't have to guests a week, but we still have at least one guest a week and we've been a podcast for long time. Seventeen eighteen is our fourth season. They keep renewing, us? Great. So Four Seasons of starting nine guests and I think it's a cool idea to have a ball ahead of everyone that we've ever had on the podcast and people. So I tweeted out a list. Of all the bobbleheads heads that I need and people from the grounds were like, Hey, I got this one. What's your address? Hey, I got this one I'll send it to you and my hail then mo you for the shipping if you're just gonNA, offer it up no problem. So I I would say I think that that's going to be one of the coolest aspects of like the case. is by the way fleeced I, Fleece this furniture company. I won't give them a free plug, but it was like a twelve hundred dollar glass display case and I got it for two hundred ox because the light didn't work I fixed the light. Bam, you. Put a battery. Yeah. Just changed the light bulb. ooh shots. That's. It's not easy. It's not easy but hey, it's fixed swindled. So Yeah I've been I've been adding all these like bobble heads and I think one of the cool thing. Cool. Things about it is that yes, I'm collecting all the different guys that we've had on the show. But then you can also come right back around and be like some of these are actually from listeners of the show. It's very cool. Yeah. That's nice that they have. They've helped you out. Yeah and. That is. Our effort. Yeah, and that's the thing is some people I was like you know I'll I'll pay for shipping if you don't want anything for the ball out like you know what? Keep it. It's a it's a thank you for the podcast. Well I, really appreciate that so I wanNA, say. Just. From throwing the tweet out there I've probably got like fifty fucking bobbleheads come into my apartment it. You know what? I've actually started to collect. And extremely expensive bottles of Bourbon as well. Oh Yeah. Yeah. So what do we got over there? Oh, I've just just just throwing that out there just just throwing that out there extremely expensive extremely rare bottles of Bourbon. Is. got. Display. Case to that. I'm going to put them all in I think. Yeah. Definitely Yep That'd be good. I. Hope someone helps you out there that'd be nice. Nice little collection to bill. But yeah, I think it's also crazy to like someone said I think that you use tweeted this because you want to flex how many Awesome guests had on starring nine. It's like well, sorry for flexing but I do want the bobbleheads. That's just A. Package. Deal. It goes. Yeah besides the ball heads I think I could also go for a body. I'm right now I have a whole case out there the kitchen. Just, call my name. It's baseball season I had a great one. Did you. How was it fucking amazing. Was it really it was. It was not like what was it heavy overdue punch you in the mouth. Damn. I. Just ate like Purple. Kuwait. Powder. Because that can be intense at times and if you're baked awesome I, I love it did but I wasn't baked I actually just belt on and I needed something and my wife had purchased a case of. Howard. Earn powerade. EXCUSE ME A. Group Body Armor. fucking amazing. I'd stay away for the powerade if I read. Oh I'd I'd I'd mostly go with the body our. Body Armor Corrobos you WANNA drink drink. Everybody's drinking. That your favorite player is drinking body armor. Yeah. I'm talking about guys like Mike Trout. Talking about guys like Anthony Rizzo I'm also talking about a mainstay out in here Los Angeles Ronald, the Kuni next thirteen year Anna. mookie hundred million bucks. He's going to be there for a long time body armor guy I'm not sure what flavor monkeys into. But I can tell you what flavors I'm into tropical punch guy you know that. Eliminate Ya I just had a bottle of grape body armor jared. So let me ask you. Let me ask you about the great because you know what I, what I noticed about the grape, and there was actually a discussion about this on the starting page. Because I mentioned like you know I I don't I'm not gonna eat an actual grape but I love grape big league chew and if you go and look at some of the body armor flavors, it's strawberry banana fruit punch orange mango berry lemonade watermelon strawberry pineapple coconut is a lot of combo flavors. Grape is just great. They respect the fact that like grape stands alone. So like I don't know I, feel like that's going to be. My next case that I get is the great body go for you're not going to be disappointed on the shit is phenomenal and Liz, the best part like I said, it's not that overwhelming punch you in the face grape sweetness blah blah blah. It's because body armor has zero artificial sweeteners. They're not church ended up with all that other bullshit packed full of potassium. That's GONNA. Help you re hydrate. Ov- electrolytes also going to help replenish what you are. Expecting that's why you're logging into the body armor folks is because. You're blowing it out and you need to replenish. So go to drink body armor dot com in order any of their amazing flavors right now, your taste buds will thank you. Your hydration situation will thank you devin update on whether or not you're going to move in with me. I do not have an update on that I'm trying to stay I'm trying not to be on fire out here in California. So to that point, the effort is ramping up. Neal say this much. My wife has gone as far. As starting to look at homes in. The area in the Massachusetts area. I mean. That's interesting. That's interesting. To know because. I do have her contact information, and if I could be of any assistance in the process of Ab- selling the idea I feel like I've I've got the knowledge I feel like I've got the knowledge I've got the perspective. and. Listen. In another life I, feel like I could have been a lawyer or an agent of sorts. I'm very good at talking and selling things that even I myself don't even really believe So I. was of bridging the gap between the Brayden family uprooting and coming to Massachusetts a place where. A. Lot of baseball content. A lot of baseball content could be created if we were united here. Let's just say I'm a mentioned for the opportunity I was I was heavily heavily heavily anti east. coast. And have been for a very long time That I've had a soft spot in Boston for a very long time and not that happened long before you and I ever met. Daisy Buchanan's you got. Oh my God daisies taste. was jeered if days Buchanan's hadn't closed I don't know that I would be here now. Buchanan head of. Diesel Buchanan's would have remained open. My life could be looking very differently, right? Yeah. That's what I'm saying is I feel like you know that maybe that's the move. Maybe that's part of why you find your way back to Boston is. Abby Dallas Brayden is the guy that real. All my God. Jerry. Do you. I I would know what to do with myself. Yeah. I would know what to do with myself. That'd be great way to trench myself in the community come back and opened up a neighborhood Jeff like daisies man, some quality evenings. One down in the basement of days. Evenings going down to the basement of he's lots of other things going down is. To. A Time, we we had a little bit of a I. Don't want to call it a disagreement. But it was it was the beginning of a discussion sure and for me. I'm trying to have these discussions on starring nine. Give goes out for free on twitter like sometimes maybe I'll give him out on twitter but between you and I, it's you know we have to have these discussions on the podcasts. That's you know we're growing the game over here toward fucking doing and speaking of growing the game. I. Think that that was the central idea of what I said You didn't agree with to which I think I can convince you of. A dog I didn't agree with it. Completely right isn't agree with it. Confines sense because you you made a great point. You said, the Astros being good again is what baseball needs baseball needs storylines and every storyline needs villain. Well, there would be a joint and seeing Houston not make the playoffs seeing them lose in the playoffs is better that were winning it and getting even more hate. and. You had me. Right up until that. Berry. Last part where they actually won everything ago. Here's let me let me lend me your Ear Dallas, lend me your ear because you know them a wrestling fan. So you know that I love the story lines in wrestling. That's just that's that's the part of it that I, love more so than yeah, th- Lettuce Ism it's the it's the storylines tickle my balls for a little bit. And with this storyline. I think like what you're seeing is peaks and valleys of a story ARC. And people are very much invested in this Houston Astros storyline that's been going on since twenty seventeen because you have. The Houston Astros winning a world series in two thousand seventeen and they're very much. That's the beginning of the story of their champions. The Red Sox dust them in eighteen but a lot of people were like this is a team that could very well go back to back and they were good. They just weren't as good as the red. SOx. Twenty nineteen is when they go back to the American League Championship series for A. Third Straight Year and they have this. EPIC battle at the New York Yankees capped off to a with the walk off home run off his chapman to go to the world series than that offseason his when all hell breaks loose, the Astros are exposed as a cheating. Cheating Organization they are enemy number one baseball fans fucking hate. the Houston Astros You know you have a twitter account that's dedicated. Just to hating the Astros that has already surpassed pretty much every other baseball twitter account out there. That's how much people hate the Houston Astros so That's the story arc but now you have this idea where it's a as a shortened season. You Have Garrett Cole being gone. You have Jose Altuve as suck. And you have Alex Bregman on the injured list you have. Justin. Verlander who's hurt and Roberto of SUNA WHO's out for the year Carlos Correa has started a fight podcast. Yes. Yes. Yes. A fight podcast. You don't fuck with that. Guy. Lance mccullers to he. I. Think he's on the podcast. Don't follow them either because they talk about fighting. So you have this angle. Where you think that they're going to booth all year you think they're going to get thrown at all year by the way. George Springer fucking lit up last night right in the elbow with no L. Bogart urine insane person. If you don't wear elbow pat or a guard in Major League Baseball and twenty, twenty, win like ninety five most guys change up at this point. So I'm looking at it from the perspective of everyone hates the Astros. So if you hate the Astros, most people are like well, fuck them. We want to see them in the playoffs. I understand I do I get it? You WanNa. See them struggle this year, but there will be more enjoyment from an astros haters fan perspective that if they lose in the playoffs I, don't care who it's too but you will get more enjoyment in the moment where they are eliminated from the postseason than you would if they just didn't make it at all. I don't know that. You D- You definitely you like there's no like sad face moment there's no like if they just don't make the playoffs like. Anymore Games this year that would be awesome. Yeah but it's not. It's it's Kinda just like a whole thing versus it's comfort in knowing that they're not gonna make the playoffs versus a one time satisfying moment of like Bam a of like fuck you you're gone. I'm here. I'm here to celebrate like if they won fifteen ballgames I'm here to celebrate forty five times. That's that's what I but then just gets primitive if they keep losing and losing. All right. It's also the point where it's out of sight out of mind like it's once it gets to a point where they've lost so many times in a season. Yeah we get it. They suck like let's move onto the next storyline but if they make it and they're in a seven game series and they get dismissed and crushing fashion like that's the moment that you want. The part of the thing that you disagreed with was I said if they win it this year then that that it's almost like in Aladdin. Jaffar was already a powerful fucking piece of shit. And then he gets the lamp Yup and then it's like Oh fuck. What if the Astros win the world series this year which I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just saying storyline wise. It's it would be on the it would be on the table if we were having a creative meeting. If the Ayrshire, win the world series this year. You know that they're not cheating because there's no one out there. There's no like you're not allowed to use videos like we would know for sure that they won and didn't sheet that would be a very interesting wrinkle in the story arc of the Houston Astros and everyone hating them and they cheated to win a world series and it would almost be like, oh. Look at we actually we never needed to cheat in the first place we want but it would make them that much more hated. Brings more relevancy to the Astros Story Line beyond twenty twenty and I know the people are still going to boo them like fans come back next year. People are still going to boo the Houston. Astros. But some of the fizzle I think we'll be gone by that point because it has been that long. But if they win. If they win that makes them even more hated. Was Borderline impossible at one point if they win, what it would do is make it. Okay. For that ramping up of the fans to rip their head off in twenty twenty one that would make it. Okay if they lose. Twenty twenty one the fans crushing them starts to fall on deaf ears starts to become a bit much or become tired Bro that was two years ago. We lost Lashley like, what are you? What are you bitching about that? Be the feeling and I think. Even bands at a certain point in time like. In the beginning of May would be like look April was cool. We hammered them for the month of April the like they didn't. They haven't won like, what are we? What are we still angry about like? Haven't they paid their dues I think that would be a thought I. think that would be a thought process for some fans. So winning it, I understand would absolutely just put them right back square in public enemies or put them in the position of being public enemy number one because now like, nope, walk that we gotta go back and hate them 'cause even in the face of the cheating scandal and the shortened season whatever they go out and win. And almost hate that as a slap across the face like they shut us up, didn't they shut league baseball up they shut the fans they showed everybody up who was that the only reason they were good and they'll run they won is because they were cheating will they just put the silencer on all of that? So you bet your ass when they come to town and twenty, twenty, one, I'm going to let them know just how I feel. That would absolutely be the case so. If I'm, a baseball fan. And not a former. Player for the Oakland A.'s not a current broadcaster for the Oakland, A.'s and not a friend of a lot of those guys in that clubhouse who have felt the pain of being ripped off by a team in their division for multiple seasons. Then I might look at it a little differently and I am here for them losing in the postseason. No doubt. I'm here for them being the steppingstone. into. The CS JARED All good I think it is all good because I think there are multiple outcomes here. That play. Like. That's why when you do have like this wrestling storyline that's going to grab attention. At wrestlemainia, they will write three different finishes so that if anything leaks no one knows for sure which one Vincent man picked like you can't just be like, Hey, we wrote this finish. This is what it's going to be like you need to have three storylines that are if this happens pretty good this happens it'll be great if this happens bans will be happy. I think that there are multiple ways that this storyline could play out. And I think all of them play in terms of keeping the storyline going and I think the worst possible outcome would be if the Astros didn't make the postseason at all because the postseason is win. That you obviously baseball fans paying attention all year long and you have baseball fans are paying attention in September like when they tune in for like the final push to maybe gets the playoffs. But then the playoffs are when everyone is paying attention and you want that storyline to still be relevant in this postseason and I I'm all for like. An Sixteen postseason team now and I love the idea that we're going to see some some new blood and I think that that should also be a main focus of the story lines at play as I hey, we might fucking see the white sox in the playoffs we will we you'll see. We're going to see the SAN. Diego padres in the playoffs this year. That's fucking awesome like hopefully, the rockies get in like I'm rooting for all the teams that I've been watching very closely this year that you know at at the beginning of the year before the season started, we did a list of teams that I was excited to watch I didn't say these teams are. Going to be the teams are GonNa fucking surprise everyone and get into the postseason but I put out a list of teams that was expected watch and of majority of those teams are going to be in the postseason and and it was not an expected thing and I don't think that if they certainly weren't expected to make the postseason if they was just ten postseason teams so. I don't want it to be lost of like will major league baseball should be fun because of the baseball and the teams that are playing good baseball I agree with you. But in terms of grabbing in people like baseball fans are going to watch baseball regardless I'm trying to get the people that are like on offense. I'm trying to get the people that are like I got nothing else to do. I could watch netflix tonight or I could tune in to like I heard about that Astros cheating thing all they're playing the plastic. Maybe, I'll watch that they could. They could potentially go to the world series or they could get eliminated like I might watch that. So for the fit for and that's and that's a great idea great concept and a great target for the fans who were on the fence for the fans who are peripheral fans your of on the outside listening to their friends talk. About their favorite team and they kind of know who's doing well, because they overheard that conversation, how do you get them in front of the TV? You explained to them the villain that is the Houston Astros, their place in the game right now and what that means going forward. That's asses in the seats type of of storylines and you're right to watch goliath get slain. Means more if it's at the end of the movie as opposed to at the very beginning where you get about why the David and Goliath matchup should be something you should care about any and that's what I think. Baseball entities us a lot of other podcasts have done. A good job of is making sure that bans realize they are the enemy right now for a good reason right now and I think internally, the players should they lose not go to the postseason that would be the off the hook moment. Like yeah. All right. We're done like you're right like you're not GonNa get shamed on the big stage like you got to wear it an empty ballpark's, and then that was it Mike you want to be playing you. So here's the thing that I think maybe created a false narrative from my tweet. I listed the Astros winning it all last. I feel like that maybe gave off the impression that I think that that's the best possible outcome. It's not like I think the best possible outcome in. Terms of like losing ORLANDS. Yes like I. Think if they lose game seven of the ANC, the world series that's the best possible outcome because a will be the year that they got exposed like they still like, Hey, we can still get back there but then you get fucking stomped out by someone like mainly best possible outcome would be the dodgers just fucking creaming I'm in the world series or something just does it give any way? Does it clear a path to formulating the opinion and solidifying the opinion of some who say? We know that they're good. We know that they're really good players. We now have proof that. They're not championship caliber players without help. This is who we think. The Astros would be if they were to be playing on a level playing field, there are a bunch of great buck and ball players and you put those kind of players together, and this is the kind of performance you should be expecting. So what we have now is an example of that group with. On with an unlevel playing field with resources that nobody else has we have an example of what that team can do and what that team looks like. Now, we have an example of what that team looks like if they don't have those resources. So I I think the answer to that question is we'll never know because like Kohl's gone ver- landers and other year older. You guys have moved on like I know he's not like a huge piece but a guy like Marlene Gonzales something like that. I think. If you were to say if we Can two seventeen. Without the help to the Astros, still win the world series. It's impossible to know the answer that question like obviously it helped obviously what they did help they won the world series. But could they have done it without cheating? I think the answer is yes but you know one on planet earth can say definitively s? I don't even think the guys in that clubhouse could say definitively, yes, that's series and that right there. That is. What will stick with those dudes? For. The rest of their life is knowing that they have the talent knowing that they had the skill. But now knowing that they. Took that. From themselves yeah that's what will eat it them for the remainder of their life, and that's why I always talk a lot about just being able to look that dude in mirror being able to go to bed and wake up with that dude in the mirror. P Okay with what you're seeing and. There's nothing. There is nothing that can transpire. Between now. And, the that they take their last breaths that will make what they've experienced and what they did. Okay. And an imagine, imagine being able to have access to that knowledge. Of like say, your Josh Radic or your George Springer. Whoever Carlos. Fly with the ALMANAC man yeah. Being able to ask like, Hey, question if we didn't she would we still have won the world series in the. Yeah the answer's Yes it's like you would have won anyway if you just played you did cheat. And now no one. Will ever it credit for that world series title like that would probably eat me up but also just Kinda like these guys for sure have had internal conversations with themselves where they may be already come to that conclusion of like yeah, I mean I don't. I. Think I think we we would have won anyway or if they truly believe that and it's like so you got discredited for nothing just because I Carlos Beltran shows up one day and he's like, Hey, this is what we're GonNa do and then we do it. That sucks. That's that's that's the bet you make. Yeah. We got a message from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration everyone knows about the risks of driving drunk. You could get into a crash people could get hurt or killed. But let's take a moment to look at some surprising statistics almost twenty nine people in the United States die every day and alcohol impaired vehicle crashes. That's one person every fifty minutes Jesus even though drunk driving fatalities have fallen by a third in the last three decades drunk driving crashes still claim more than ten thousand lives each year. Drunk driving can have a big impact on your wallet as well. You could get arrested and incur huge legal expenses. You could possibly even lose your job. So what can you do to prevent drunk driving implant safe ride home before you start drinking, designate a sober driver call a taxi uber whatever you've got if someone you know has been drinking, take their keys and arrange for them to get sober riot at home. We all know the consequences of driving drunk but one thing is for sure you're wrong. If you think it's no big deal drive sober or get pulled over this is. The part of the PODCASTS that we we've been teasing since the beginning Tristan Mackenzie you know the name because he just made his Major League debut for the Cleveland Indians went out there ten paunchy. Sorry about it. I think what month we in, August August I would say I would put this in the. I would nominate I don't know how many nominees we're going to have I. Think we should have the starting nine awards every year at the end of the year. I think it's a it's going to be a nominee. View the year Oh. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. I think we should have like now that we have to start nine, read it and everything we have a place where these votes can actually take place like episode of the year interview of the year. Things of that nature I think that when it? By the end of the year of Jay Hayes listening somewhere somewhere out there the add to sprinkler system was acting up again. Yeah. The sprinkler system winning. Yeah. It rained like the day before then his sprinklers went off and he was over saturating his front lawn. So Moist. Yeah. Had to fix that. If Jay gets around to listening to this podcast let's let's do an award show and For me, this is a strong candidate. For interview the year. Trista Mackenzie. All right, we are here with Trista Mackenzie. Indians this was This was a major league debut that if you paying attention last week one, one of the highlights of that. Nolan Jones, who's been on the podcast with US already. one of the coolest moment and it's Kinda like it's it's the perfect picture of what life is like in baseball and twenty twenty. One of your teammates one of your boys he can't even be there to watch but he's on a rooftop across the street to watch your Major League debut. You're out there punching out ten dudes in your Wilder League debut. Did you know did you know that he was out there on all off like Amanda? But. We guys around me help me. An Athlete Game I heard about it. So I. Think you will yeah because because typically all the boys back home like whether it's you know whether you got called up from double a or you're in three everybody gathers around in the training room everywhere wherever the fuck a evey. That's where the boys are gathered around and they're watching you take the bumper the first time. So with an inability to do that, it had to be pretty awesome to get those texts I'm sure you saw those images of no gel hanging over the fuck I mean how ridiculous was that to you what you step back and realize like damn man? I I'm still getting the support. It was it was one hilarious. Last be he was living hanging over it? Awesome. But I mean the fact that the fact that he doesn't surprise me hall he's a great kid. And he's one of my good friends. So factories airs really. No apps absolutely Hey T MAC. What the fuck you been doing since twenty, thousand, eighteen because. I know what? It's like I. Know What it's like I have I have walked that same path my friend I have walked that exact same path. So you have a great great star to the professional. Professional Career Twenty eighteen, your latte falls off your Petrella's major falls off and you play. Zero Baseball in in two thousand nineteen and now you show up in two thousand twenty, your grab Major League baseball right by the balls and and catch everybody by store. So what was what was that downtime for you like and how agonizing was that to sort of watch baseball continue while you're trying to put your arm back together. I mean it's it's definitely are being like away from the game in terms of wine play consistently I mean I think I'm a little kid in art when it comes to playing bass like I. Really just enjoy going out there and just being team and doing stuff like that like it's just fun for me. I feel like a little kid and the fact that I had to sit down and be like, all right. We have to like take steps back in like make sure that everything goes correctly. So that when we get back out, there were one hundred percent. Of was very tough, but I, mean, it's it's obviously a process in when it comes to that and. A lot of diligence in our word I I think it showed out there. I'm very proud of that but it. Doubt. The. Obviously showed I mean you show gotten like I. We we joked because our producer is a he's a Cleveland Indians Fan and we're always like dude, like, what? What are they doing all the pictures over there where it's like you can lose a guy like Clev- and and please act and then they're like all right. Well, we'll just we'll just go down in the system and pull up dude. They can just punch out ten batters in his debut. What type of pride do you take the fact that the Indians have sort of this reputation of their they are like a pitching factory. Art next man up next man up in every do that they come in. It's like they are the real deal. I think a lot of to our pitching's now. Especially, in our coaches they're very, it's not like letting these guys find their way when it comes to to pitching and finally just importing importing their thoughts in their energy during information and colleague is on wrongly beavers. SMART guys. Somalis a competitor. senator and they they give all guys. Come Up v themselves and I, think from top to bottom whether you're you're if you're wall like they kind of let guys do that I think that allows guys to come up and flourish. So I'm curious now like if if the Cleveland Indians go up to tristen Mackenzie and they say be yourself. To you what does that mean? have. Whether. You're getting one hour or whether you're winning biton North Bexley other guys. But you're not out than just being lazy about being injured Robert You like. Whenever I go out there I, a little but all the best art by author Bertha Game. That's that's my goal because I want to get might. Regardless Rosalio. All right. Love that take. Yeah. That's that's. Approach this thing then. Take us through take us through that very first scattered report meeting. You're getting ready to tell the rubber. There's there's a name in that lineup that I faced as well and it was a name that gave me chills and maybe sent me into colts. What's Don Miguel Cabrera? You want me to get fucking Miguel Cabrera out. I throw you to get him out. Are you? Hi? What are you thinking when you start to go down the list and you're starting to see some of these names like? Kimmy like I've been watching these guys play on TV and now I'm getting out how do you process that? Honestly I try warwick responsible. Razz, now move every. I try. My pressure on myself Carl's. Vision. Goes. Hey, I always nine Portland. Of. Of Steve. Here's lanes. And? Try to do yeah I'd say ninety six in the back pocket with a ninety hour wipeout slight pieces of good fucking. That's a good arsenal to go ahead and just stick to you. Got Ninety six dial up on maybe you got ninety dial up on the sloppy. Because when he got up. At like burn around. ME. Out But I. Think. It's Just a hall of Focus. Right. That's that I wanted to ask you about because right before because look man you're making your big league debut and you are now on the list of guys who I am heartbroken for. But so happy for in the same breath and that's because what you experienced on your debut is unlike any moment you'll ever experience in your life, but you didn't have that roar of the crowd energy to either feed off or or have to block out right those are those are different things. So that's why I was I was watching you and right before you throw that first pitch, it's A. Deep Breath, you sort of lock in on a spot somewhere in the stadium. That's not the big league hitter. You're getting ready to face and you just SORTA talk, yourself. The moment what were you saying to yourself? I determined let it in bigger. Me are a lot of times especially running out to the bullpen commented will like you. Not Living that third row not me and Mike this is a really big stadium. At right now. But. I've time disposing like. Slow Data Mike naturally this marine to the right now moving to be reverend's Rooney to be very. On Glue Little Bit. Time, but it helped a little bit. And we made it through. WHO IS Who is the first phone call that you made after you got on the mouth or did you already just have like a million text messages and everything else wants to go off amount? Once I. Think, it's still probably going. But my dad, my dad was their first ball. And I. Don't. Mind bootleg months and got my brothers. Were built right now. Year and My brothers. Flynn baseball. So you're gonNA pitching factories vanderbilt that is quite the reputation to uphold. Yeah. But I mean. Like when it comes to baseball. Though they've been around my whole life. So Now. I, wanted to ask you. Because as as a as a young black man growing up around the game of baseball I don't know if that was the case for you. Necessarily I. Don't know if it was something that you gravitated towards at a certain point. But. That is something that I know a lot of our listeners are interested because a lot of folks who might have things at their disposal or might not always curious as to how people are able to fall in love with the game resources that aren't necessarily available to a lot of other kids in the same scenario so as And growing up in America around the game of baseball, who or what were some of those factors that brought you to the game. Honestly the game itself just around the Games on was the biggest me love game. So as I said, my my younger brother Laze and Royal Palm. Related. Willows, which is little like literally right next to the high school that way. But just like even I wasn't lane all those around the game attribute my. Mother's the cough legs like running around playing baseball running around with my friends at at the at the Beach Your Wall those other basil off. Being around the game like that. Just fine wavy like this is what I WANNA do for rest of my life like this is all I wanted to just play baseball at home for raising who is your guy who is. Who is your grownup? Slow like the shortstop. Like. I always loved nap. What he represented, just how he went about his business on an on the feel like as a matter of my dad line. Key. Gooden. MMG Stan okay. Long Roger Clemens and then watching light my favorite relate every watched resigned since since Saturday. Nights and. I mean, how many? How many call ups like seriously because you what do you? Like fucking six, twelve, one, hundred, and fifty pound super being honest. You you're seriously six, five, six, six, hundred, sixty, five, hundred, seventy pounds, and it's absolute buzz coming out of your right hand. So has not been one of the cops for you throughout your life is those longer leaner. wiry type guys has pedro been a name that's been thrown out. Once or twice but. It's Ukraine. I mean like because that's that's the thing is like when your prospect. Fans. Always want to slap a name next to you and be like art. So we don't know anything about this guy like who is like who's the COP for that? So for for you who would you say to someone that may be missed your debut? Who someone that like if you're trying to Not Market yourself to but explain yourself better to a casual baseball fan. My game is similar to bike. I I wouldn't. I wouldn't even compare baseball where I honestly like I'm the under need but I really wanted to be. A Dame Willard were like a Russell Westbrook type. Family I want out there and you know what you're getting arnold gardening to get aggressive and you get past them i. think that's what I want when I go out and based. So I'm glad that you said that because. There are guys that will come up into the League is like young kids and they always just want to say the right thing like I don't WanNa like piss off the veterans or anything like that. But we're seeing this new wave. Fernando. Totti's junior thing that's happening right now like that dude am I, I put up the t shirt face. Is that the case right now? No, but do I want it to be yes. Because his his game is the exact type of style that is going to take baseball to the next level and and have it be popular again amongst like the younger kids so for you. Do you think that once you get established in major. League Baseball, will you take it upon yourself to be a part of that? Like do you think that like is there are guys That simply just don't care about like marketing the game. They're just like I'm here I'm GonNa get a paycheck I'm good at the game. So I'm going to stay up here and then there are guys that are like I WanNa make this fun like like I want like a guy like Bauer I want people to care about baseball where do you fall on that spectrum I'm seeing more on I I really rather there. Being honest version for a little kid somewhere maybe eighty to like just bailable from big name. Baseball that's what You. Look Has has the protocol and the things that you guys have to go through and trust me brother? No one's asking you to get into that. I. I'm well, we're all well aware of the shit that you have to go through the Ballpark I got to go through the same shit. And that's why I ask because I understand what you guys have to do on the daily has that. I don't want to tarnish. That's not the right word, but has that prevented. You from fully embracing and being like just Sumer fucking excited about being in the big leagues or has that as no gotten away a little bit not all I? Just walking around with us. A little. I look like. Door all like also knows my. Wow Gold on link a look at look down at see Jose, Ramirez look over a C. J. Bieber and they're not like guys in bigger than life when they're around their very humble guides are very like bill talk to you I don't feel athletes, which is really Other absurd group of dudes in there I feel like if if you were to ask us before the season, like if we were to rank like our favorite teams to be around like I would put the Indians pretty high up there like like those deals are just like regular ask dudes like the beads. He's a guy that You know and I think that you could definitely use this to your benefit like I tweeted about this the other day like p Balloon Spectator. The fact that it was just last season he came in as the fifth starter in the rotation like this is this is not a guide it's like Oh highly touted prospect. He's going straight shot like to the top it was like all right. We'll give this guy a look you know fifth starter, and now he's one of the best pitchers in the League so. I mean he's I would highly recommend picking his brain and using him as a resource because he I'm sure he's more than willing to be that for you So I'm more curious now like going back to your early days. You mentioned growing up being a baseball fan. Do you have a like a favorite memory or moment going to a baseball game as a kid? Saturday. True if you are still kicking. Jared. Stepped foot on a bic punched out fucking ten. Debut at don't they? Don't think for one minute that that little abbreviated mild ask Strut that I. saw you want to break out. That she was not lost on me. That I, let it out with the last one. seriously. You see you see. You See. Mickey take that swing on that slider and did he I mean you bro, you knocked his fucking helmet off right like. He's like trying to gather of so. What was that like tell me? You're not chasing herself out that told me you watch that video room. I. I've been watching an ice. I get reactionary when you watch it like I wrote Bitch like why that? Mountainous like. All right. We gotta get. Real. This matter. Really. That's unbelievable. So they wouldn't when you kind of like project your career outwards and I know that's that's difficult to do after one big-league start. What are some of the goals that you have for yourself like what are some of the things? Like besides the obvious like I know like a CY young a world series title like those are obvious answers were some of the goals that you have as a big leaguer. With last year being very big year are being consistent and China's name often angeles. Last year remodeling in terms of late baseball's need. One of the one of the words here's my life but I think as as a learning process of the growing process I think it was very, very necessary. And I. Think it helped me become why day everything that going forward i. So. I'll do everything I have to. Review. So last year, clearly a low point and a low moment for you probably personally as well as professionally because you're wondering, what, what am I doing like do I am my bagging groceries or am I going to be able to play baseball? What a what am I doing? You're not bagging groceries that was my that was my future, but you're questioning yourself so. Take us to that lowest point. And then take us through the conversation you're having with yourself because that conversation is one of the most important conversations you've ever had with yourself talking yourself out of that bit of misery into the big leagues. Essentially. It's I mean it's it's. Of? Like they don't let you grow a little bit. I, get their sleep. Row. Near your like. Yield site talk my something. visit necessary. Light. Every little thing that you do illiterate move everything little. Weight Room every little stretch you do get ready to walk. Necessarily to go out and it'd be the best use. Technology and and just about it. one of the questions that I love asking pitchers. What's your? Well, there's a setup question. What's your? What's your pitch repertoire which your arsenal dope? Got Foresee basketball it's just really straight. We got senior a Koerbel and a slider I'd say in order volley fastball virgo changes. Okay. So you have the forces you can on which I'm assuming you're GONNA pick the slider if you're ranking it fourth. Yes. So you're you get rid of one pitch and you can take one pitch from any pitcher in the league. So if you give up the slider. Can take someone else's slider who's slider you take, and if that's the pitch that you're giving up, I mean you could. You could in theory you could give up your fastball and you could get. Hicks is one hundred and three or give up your slider and go for like Sherzer whoever you want. If I had like. I'd take verbal FIG nerds all having. I'm good. which take WHO's curveball here? Okay. Yeah. That's a great pick our producer Jay Bilas Indians guy dropped his name as somebody to look out for and watch at the early part of this season and everybody's like, Oh what is it gonNA. Work. All DMV was that your starbucks Barista. Guy. Yeah. Oh. He's got one of the dirtiest bucket of baseball. He literally makes pitching Ninja to every time. He's out there. So. Yeah it's I mean like getting. Have you did you are you pitching Ninja? Guy? I. Like. Yeah. So is that like a like a badge of honor for you if you're out there next time and it's like, oh, we're breaking down like the the slider heater, your dot someone up on the black like that like something that like you're looking forward to where you're highlights are out there I'm getting. Hey brother come on. I gotta say I got to say t Mac if you are not your own favorite flavor, you are licking the wrong ice cream cone. That's the bottom line you got to be your own favorite flavor. So so now that you've got now that you're armed with a curveball that you want who's the hitter that you have been most looking forward to facing this, the measuring stick on a show you yours you're gonNA. Show me show me. Here we go. I GonNa Marcus. Mitch is. Pretty high on. Day One. You gave me the opportunity go back right now and watch video of be putting it out with yogurt on I lost that year one. For the rest. Of My life is so wolny I'd be like a little. We grew up like. WASHINGTON? Outside of new look. If I'm going to be my best these. that I mean, it's It's one of those things like. I. Totally get what you're saying like replaying the Miguel Cabrera thing one of my friends pitch for the Red Sox and he sucks and he struck out my trout and he replays that video all all day all day. Is The IRA in the big leagues. There's like twenty seven. He struck out Mike Trout. So he's that's his thanks. I hope you do I. Hope you get the chance like now now that you've been on starting nine. Like we we officially had like our list of guys that can do no wrong and you're basically on that list now. So anytime that you make a start, we're basically going to be like a two man cheering squad. So I'm pretty excited for that I'm. I like the Indians have a bunch of our guys now. Somebody reward. I'll always always so so jeeter. So was the guy that was on the poster on your wall that was the go-to guy that was motivating factor. Yeah. Do you know how go ahead go ahead? Say My my brother was a big. Fan Humans US little. Like We're GonNa Never Played Nanda Gears me. Oh sweet will too I like I like art are you familiar with the Black Aces? No. So the ball cases is an I have the honor of being a teammate of nowadays with a member of the black aces, Dontrelle Willis, and this group of African American pitchers who have won twenty ballgames year. Go look about list. It's a damn good list but I wanNA know again. And it's because we get a lot of questions about some of the African American players in the League, and there's not a lot of you guys. That's just that this is what it is. So for you, what is it been like with everything that's going on in our world to be able to gravitate towards and be around other lack baseball players in a social climate like right now. I mean I'd say it's really cool eternal and when I was doing I, didn't necessarily have representation like busily. Adult Award scale early, there's a lot of guys in the league they're doing really well, just how all over from Seattle frigging mining like there's worry well I think hers as a matter we're all wrong hundred comes together. That is. Good. St and there's a lot of good news in the League right now that that have been outspoken. Mir Garrett Jack. Flaherty like all those dudes. I'm more curious about like your time away from the field. Now, like if is it's not your start daily. It's obviously different for relievers because you know your number can get called at any time. But if you're if you're starting every five days, what are those inbetween days look like for you? Add. Zero Field off the field like how are we unplugging? How how are you dude that your? We plan. I really bring a pillow. It's A. Junior like almost worried that game were you around in now. I read that's like. Outside? But? I'm not. I'll the though because I'm trying to taste myself. Yes. Don't act like you do that to Dallas if they had video games back when you put. That she see see that mcquaid so he can deal with this guy. rentable. What I what I also, what I also want to know is out of that pitching staff that you're on right now. You were on a desert island. You gotta take one of those dudes with you because this is going to be purest source of entertainment for you. Just somebody that you could just sit at what into the island and you could just watch him do him over there and be purely entertained for like the rest of eternity. Who's the dude that you taken with you said? He. Says, Somali. Kinda mild-mannered with these. Small Larry's Weirdo in them to. Now, I wouldn't even say, Messi Weirdo like. Very, analytical about everything or all like it just makes no money just as process processes not like your like interpreted Mason gives backs you. Bradley. noodling I need even know you're mentioning that. I want to go back to your debut for a second because Dallas Kinda hit on it a little bit about how. Going there there's no fans and you're kind of robbed of having that energy of his big league debut and the crowd is here and they're either road fans of their your home fans that have your back. Is that something that like when their pump in the fake crowd noise were you was that even something that's going through your brain or you just like Holy Shit Him. In the Big Leagues Right now like I, I gotta get home and Google Cabrera you're not even focusing on the on the sound. I mean, I've heard a little bit but it wasn't there wasn't anyone in your. It's there and it's not necessarily votes like. It's it's not same but I'm glad. Really. Hurt. Yeah So. Have you had have you had this moment? Yeah because it's not it's not a moment that necessarily comes day one it could be a year down the road. I mean, it could be ten minutes into walking into that clubhouse for the first time. But if you've had it, what is been you big-league moment your holiday thought I am here. I this is the big leagues I haven't. I haven't slept like past three nights. Mike a leader only move is. Those is and in in my mind onsite, all of your beginning I relive every every night like. I. Honestly Little Kid nicknames everytime is on that. The. Such beautiful man that is beautiful that is genuine and as as heartfelt and has real as I think of an answer as I've gotten to that question because a lot of guys tend to gravitate towards seeing somebody right or is that burst guy that we face and we're processing like having used him in a video game you know and now we're facing like so for you to be able to tap into that feeling. That memory and relive that daily. That's what we looked to hold onto my friend. Don't don't ever lose that. Mac don't ever lose that. Yeah that is. That is crazy. I mean like just like hearing your spot. I feel like you're probably the most genuine dude. We've interviewed in terms of just being totally open and candid with like no I made my big-league debut and that was fucking awesome and like it's almost like if you could give. A ninety six, mile, an hour heater and a wipeout slider to a diehard baseball fan. All right. We're going to give you those ability. There, and make her debut and it's This is out there heaving shit lift that is six ninety slager everything baseball. Fun This is awesome. Like deadly. Don't know like surreal. Of like? I want. I. Want Baseball. And everybody has means nappies lent I wanted to be in baseball. It's actually. I feel like I feel like I'm watching myself. In front of is. What was what was the moment back in the amateur ranks where or did you have this moment where you just you? You realize all right after after I just did that after that performance right? There I think it's pretty clear. It's pretty apparent. I've got the tools and I think I know what my future looks like like, what was there a moment of? Dominance because I want to know this about you and then I'm GonNa ask you another question kind of similar. But did you have a moment where it was just clear that you're shitting on the rest of these kids out here who were just GonNa go do book reports and be nerds for the rest of the school and you're one of the big leagues. Probably. Probably. My senior high school. It was the. One in district semifinals played against we played against team down south. It's outboard. And I went out there was one of the better teams like it's outward and House like you're GonNa have commander, Aberdeen, and. Possibly outside outside of Saturday vaber pilot. Give it to US giving come on we we we can't go to bed without without any info. What was dominant seven inning one, hit fourteen, punch out performance two for three at the dish with a Jaguar. What are you got? You. Being. Whatever Homerun? Let's go. Dating one gate. Like. A little more than being. Something like that. Seven one walk in like a couple hits. Go. I have been known to manifest things for the Cleveland Indians starting pitching staff. I don't I don't know if you're aware of this Mac you can talk to Shane Bieber about this, we're still waiting jerry you're still waiting on the truck that he won for the All Star Games here we do have part ownership of the truck part ownership of that truck we went to breakfast that morning and basically talked him into becoming the MVP of the All Star game, right? Yeah. You Check Dude you're on the list I like ever ever since I mean like since it's interview started like I said, you've been one of the most genuine players that we've ever had on like you're for sure on the list doesn't even matter if if you have one start in the big leagues on your belt, you're on the list, which is a great place to be speaking to that one start. Though are you a memorabilia guy? Did you take anything from that? Start you get the capped you got The ball from your first punchy like what are we got? I. Get. Leads my high got my first right. I got strike we will meet him. Right now. God. I tried everything sounds like my I thought everything was like our. Universe result. But I was like, my dad was my dad was that he needs mommy something. Everybody. That kind of helped me gives this I was. On I need to get some for all right who who was a along that vein. That's a great response man because I can remember what kind of going through that same checklist like what do I need like I don't even know what I'm supposed to take from this. Autumn allowed to get anything. I'm just happy to be here like Am I. If I'm allowed to come tomorrow I'm good. That's that's good. That's good enough for me. So who was who was one of the biggest influences for you outside a mom and dad outside of the family that makes so many sacrifices to you brother to where you're at today outside of that small group that immediate circle who is somebody that had a huge impact on you coming up through the game of baseball my date will go and He's been with me several ways since. I was twelve or thirteen nice. Year. One of the first like didn't remember. We talked about like me committing the one, the baseball cards, and he was like one word positive to be going hard. I'll do I do that and you want to hard you have to try to throw long. I was I was like a real big minded guy late dice love. He's like you're fourteen years role and he kinda dates. You of I. Think He. Steer me in the right direction. Yeah like teaching philosophy is very difficult thing to do and. I remember I actually we had we had a speed pitch competition at Barstool and the person that I asked. To throw harder, how can I like learn how to throw harder in approximately three days? It was clever I reached out to club and. As Club. Yeah so a thirty, one years old I. Haven't pitched on amount about ten years. I need to be able to throw like eighty five ish Yanni tips for me and it's the same thing whereas again like you just gotta you just gotTa shook it up there. Man Does like I. Don't know if that's like sound advice for a blogger that's a thirty one. It didn't work out surprise didn't work out. But I feel like for to be able to pass on knowledge like that in for you to be able to grasp it like Oh yeah. No. Yeah. No problem. I got ninety six right here. Do you think that you are at this point? The you're twenty three we re at the beginning of this month. Oh, happy birthday. Do you think that you are what you are. Do you think that like in terms of law a city? Are you GONNA be one of those guys that's still trying to teach philosophy to? Himself Ninety six is what I got. We're GONNA work with that or you're going to be someone that's like you know what like Sky's the limit guys are blowing one oh, two right now like I could probably get up to like ninety nine whatever. I'm, not. I I walk with her knocking regarding if I was going eighty eight and you can be a bigger. Role with back there is nothing wrong with throwing eighty eight. Eighty eight Dallas Eighty. Two in the tank, which is like a tow, the difference of eighty eight and eighty two miles we're talking miles mountains, they're trying to move here but I mean it works missed. One or two. Offer you love. Yeah. That's fuzzy. That's real fuzzy. Now, the lottery now I ask you about your most dominant performance. Up, to this point, aside from the Big League debut Tint punchout Scott Dim so jealous that. I push your ten one time in a game and my entire bigly crew thought I was also is wrong with them. What happened to the team? The Seattle Mariners they were all I believe they were drinking heavily before the game yeah. Yeah. The most dominant performance that you have been a witness to. That you have seen like Oh my God that dude is an absolute hog like I I didn't think that was ever even possible and you saw this happen on a baseball field. We use personally like talk a lot about Rick Angel who? Through high school through not his senior year in high school, he threw nine no hitters. Nine. Nine like baseball mortified wasn't even fun for him because talk it's going to be a no hitter again again. I mean. I witnessed the no hitter earn yeah notre in hiring. But like dominant pitching performance though it doesn't have to be pitching performance, it could be it could be a dude just absolutely drop diesel. Whatever like you're just like I've never seen that on a baseball before that was incredible. Run Game. Okay. All right. That like that's insane. I couldn't imagine will be meeting my adult again. On all three it actually here one. All right. Well, three for three with rebounds. Pretty. Four bombs in a game. You probably feel like you can part the see at that point. So I have these magical powers. That's insane. Yeah. I. Think you know for you though. What do you think is like you go out there and you punch out ten in your debut, you have to like you talk about like a closers mentality guy blows a save he's got a pitch the next day come out there and still be rock-solid because there's a game on the line. You go out there Major League debut strikeout ten you gotTa wait five days for your turn again it's like Do you have to shake that in terms of all right one try ten punches a might taking that into the next start in terms of confidence or am I shaking that off like I can't even think about that I just have to take a clean slate into start to. I try not to compare my starts. Compare much Thursday. Milder, the rest of the Rhodesian I tried like little competition. There was everybody's everybody's like pushing me better than that. Chain as. My Buckling. Buckle up. That's GONNA. Be a tough own fall. What is the thing that you're most looking forward to in the Big Leagues? You you're going to have some goals that you set for yourself. But for you you're here, you're getting used to this thing what is what are the? What's that brass ring for you? Aside from the world series for you. Personally. Just I wanted to see what would I want WanNa leave on the hardest one I want people to to want these bowl just for a lot of the game just as name where I. I WANNA I WANNA be in his bridge and her like hockey look like not. Maybe, we should go outside laced base. Again, get in that. That's interesting. May WanNA lounges. MONTHLY BASEBALL Or not Have you ever Have you ever have you ever put blitz ball in your hand you're. All right. Well, then I would just move right onto this. He's bets. Tug on right now. Imagine imagine being able to throw melt on I. Don't want to imagine that and I throw blitz balls in the backyard to my grandmother to feel good about myself and. A major league baseball like fucking bullets ball was very omega hit. Oh. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, if you if you square up, it's going places, but it's very, very, very hard to do. Shit I forgot my question. It was a good. No, I remember it now. You talked about like the moment that you face Miguel Cabrera and how awesome that was for you in you're able to strike them out. Of. The ball you get the video if you could face one player in major league history. Who you trying to stare down in the batter's box. And you know what? Because he's your favorite I'm going to say you can't pick Derek jeter neighbors manny. Manny way it's. GonNa be were buried. Long Joe Rolly owns now why? Because you've got you've got the greatest potentially the greatest right-hander and the greatest left handed hitter of all time. So I mean is that factoring into the decision or what about those dudes in their game that you're like this is why? When I like when you hear stories about like near Bronson terms of light. Guys were he would what's his that on being attention walker the basis. But he got intentionally walked to the bases loaded and he's his his record of being intentionally walked like one of I think if you were to power rank someone asked me the other day. It was like Barry Bonds. Seven fifty, six like the or seven, sixty, two, the career homers, the single-season homers the four, hundred, four hundred, and then the intentional walk record power rank like the most unbreakable Barry Bonds records like I think his record of being intentionally walked the most unbreakable like who else baseball if it's not happening to Mike Trout right now at the same pace as Barry Bonds is never gonNA happen again, and so it's it's crazy how many time is using we're talking about. A hundred and Twenty Times a hundred and twenty times attention I. believe that was Two. Thousand I. think that was two thousand four. Yeah. So he was like thirty seven. Yeah he's. He's on his way out of the game apparently, and they're like, no one hundred, twenty times they're like, no, we need somebody else to can't. I really wanted to like my Maryland Line Gold Zach like that's. God robs these. Lives About Dallas. He was thirty nine. Thirty nine he got intentionally walked two hundred, twenty times in two thousand four. He was thirty nine years old was I right? Was it was exactly hundred twenty yes. Okay. And he in his career, he was intentionally walked six hundred eighty eight times. That's a major league record. That's forty that you bring that up dude. Mac because that's one of the that's one of the stats because we are very berry Lamar bonds friendly podcast here. Yeah and that is the one stat that I always try like you WanNa. Talk about greatness you can look at the baseball reference page and fall in love with it you can. One hundred and twenty times she was in. Chinchilla. was given a free pass with the bases loaded nope. we'll take it. That's a knee. Rather give up the wrong and outnumbered US an annual. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy Shit. All right. We appreciate your time. Big Dog. You've you've given us a chunk of it. We know you gotta another solid Dick Day ahead of us to go enjoy that but before you leave. We ask each one of our guests this. All important, very important question. If you could. Jump. In a hot tub time machine just like a regular time machine that has standard functions and go back time issue in a hot tub time machine back in time and watch any moment in baseball history. What would it be and why? Ninety nine. Also, yeah watching Pedro dice. Video, many. I think the universe would be. Relied on as in. Nastier ninety seven by God's Sammy Sosa fallen out of the box. I purples. CNN burs will be differ Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the crowd is electric and I still think you know like Patriot's performance at night is what everyone talks about which is rightfully. So but before the game that that was the greatest collection of hitting things. Yeah. Lifting baseball talent on the field at the same time like the guys that they were able to get out for like the all century. Team. Yeah, that night was just special night was baseball. So that's a great pick love every single second of that but. We appreciate you taking the time Mackenzie Gemini do you have any social media like to plug? My instagram littered. So my career in my name. The first thing Bob busy. And might litter is at T- underscore e as you are to Board Done Delta E. Are we're going to get those follows up. We appreciate it man. Thank you so much. Yeah maxine later brother. Big Shoutout Tristen Mackenzie for making the time. That was way more time than I thought we were going to get from him yet. No dealt we're on we're talking Game Day. You know it's not it's not a start day. It's another big day for the guy who's Basking in his own sauce. Six innings. Ten. 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Getting Your Life we got to play a little pepper here. There's a trade made and it's not going to be the last one. I would imagine the Red Sox are just getting started I'm bloom cracking his knuckles and this was I was actually surprised because this trade I think Friday night I thought for sure we'd see at least one more by the end of the weekend like once once you Kinda like pop the top it's Kinda. Like pringles. I think. The Red Sox will move vast majority of their players who are free agents at the end of the year maybe maybe guys with control I don't know I like there's there's a lot being said over here in terms of like who's going to be here after the trade deadline and things of that nature but the Philly's got Brandon Workman in Heath Henry in a trade for Nick Pa- Vada and a right hand pitching prospect I I'm me personally as a red sox guy I'm more excited about the pitching prospect, but Nick Peta is a guy that is. I always like to ask the fans like all read you know the Ken Rosenthal and the Jeff Passan's on what they think and everything but I always asked the fans, i. Hey, what's the deal? Is Guy you get the scouting report directly from the fans because they're going to shoot you straight they're not going to bring analytics into it. They're not going to say this and that and with Nick Panetta. Get ready for a lot of potential talk and Peta is twenty, seven years old and I think two, thousand, seventeen, he had a big strikeout number year. But. Tony Seventeen wasn't. Recent. You know this is a guy that you if you're going to keep talking about potential because you saw what he did three seasons ago then yeah, that's but maybe he's best served now. As a reliever like maybe maybe you try him out as a reliever and maybe. Because of the home run numbers like being at Citizens Bank was not favorable to a fly ball pitcher balls are going out to right field that were homers that would be easy canaccord at Fenway Park maybe that's a factor but I'm not gonNA sit here and be like Oh Nick Vata is going to be the stud that everyone thought he was going to become in Philly. I'm just like all right whatever lottery ticket you know if it works great if it doesn't doesn't but Brennan Workman. He loves his curve ball. He loves the Yak piece. This is a dude that last season twenty, nine, hundred, nine, Aroldis Chapman was the American league reliever of the year. Brennan Workman was statistically better than roll this Chapman across the board across the board. So I think he he was on the mound he blew game immediately on Saturday. The braves walked off against Workman on. Saturday and then Sunday night he was on mound for that gap shot that that. Yes that it was like a, it was a walk off relay at the plate for for the Phillies to keep the leader in when the game. So I understand your introduction of ran a workman has not been glowing it been fantastic. Just, wait it out. He's He's good reliever. I mean the fastballs like ninety, three, ninety, four for the curb ball is is it's a dynamite pitch of his showed up he showed up with half the. If the bullpen now so you've gotta be excited about that like anytime. You're bullpens got an era of Eight. And you get somebody in your bullpen that doesn't have any ram eight. Probably help out me an impact. They've they've got a guy now who feel like they can plug into the back end of a ballgame. You get you some swing and miss with that curve ball as well and Bastogne where that bullpen has been for Philly. And where they'd like to go. Where they'd like to be. You have to identify guys that can get those leverage outs later in the ball game if they think that they're going to have. Any sort of a shot. At hanging around and competing. In this division and I'm not talking about this year because. thanks for coming. What are they have? Ten wins. But. You know what? With the fact that they only need to ball games jared or the fact that they're taking winners. Are the Philly they're not dead in the water at this point. Are they four games out? So. What do you think four games out with a month left they make those moves to the back end of the. Bullpen. That we didn't but with every team in the division head of them sure well, I mean aren't aren't they tied with with the nats. Yes. But winning percentage, they are last. Okay. All right. So. They've got a few hurdles in front of four. To be exact, well, I guess three ten. But. Do you think this decision made for this year? I mean. Can. I. Make an observation here about the phillies because you know that like what we just said the ten and fourteen. By winning percentage, they are the worst team and at least however. If you look at their playoff odds. Which I find very interesting. The marlins eleven point nine percent even though they're twelve and eleven, and in second place then you have the mets fifty, seven point six percent. Okay, and the the nats forty one point three percent. And then you go down to the last place phillies. Fifty eight point two percent. So despite being in last place, they have the second best playoff odds in the division. Wow. What are What does this being factored in there I have no fucking idea. What is being factored in? I mean obviously like the Marlins. They're you know they're counting that? That's just outright saying that marlins everything you're doing is fake. Yup that's what that's saying. They're not buying into the nationals for whatever reason I don't know what is factored in there. But for whatever reason, the Phillies have the second best playoff odds in the NFL East right now despite being in last place the also and they've got the worst of the worst run differential in that division. Yeah, you don't want that negative ten negative ten I mean if you look around the league like like negative ten, we'll put you in a good spot and most other divisions. Yeah. It's not a negative forty two. That's for sure. I'm sorry. Were you making reference to a team in particular Dallas? No No, and it's definitely not like negative forty five either you know it's it's not either one of those. forty-five in Texas Rangers are negative, Forty five but. Right. Lose to negative forty five team last night. It's the lighting in the new text. Ballpark just will be used I can't Lance Lynn and landslide and got to give credit to landslide. He's he's having himself balking year. Lance I feel like this is the first time we mentioned on the PODCAST, but he's like he's Kinda like neck and neck with Garrett Cole numbers, which he's bizarre and what's not and not necessarily bizarre. But what's fun to watch about Lance Lynn is he does it all with fastballs I? mean he'll spend a couple right they'll three a breaking ball every now, and then I'll. Pull on a change but for the most part Lance, Lynn has been carving people up. With the heater where he's GonNa fucking sub to Er right now. So, whip if I'm not mistaken guy is dealing, he's the guy. He's a guy that I think. Could very well be on the move. No you could be on the move. We Will GonNa Tires on Lance Lynn the Rangers feel good about maybe where they could be in the what's his deal? Did he did he signed for like three years 'cause I remember he was one of those guys that was like one year one year one year right when people were getting deals. And he? Got I believe it's a three year thirty meal piece. Yeah, and this is your to correct. Okay. So. Like where the Rangers. Right now. Next year. Are they evaluate like do they feel like they have a real shot next year in this division? No. So then are you entertaining moving? Lance Lynn. Thinking that whatever you can get for him now could help I think I. Think it's very interesting because you know we talked about how maybe some teams might be reluctant to make deals because they think that the rest of the season could get cancelled and the postseason could get canceled knock on wood. We haven't been talking about that at all like I feel like Kinda just like business as usual like if you can have a team like the cardinals sit out for the first fucking month of the season and the show goes don t like the Marlins have the entire roster test positive and the show goes on I. Don't know what it would take for the season to get canceled at at a point like this that we've made this far But I mean it's like. It's GonNa take a fucking asteroid pandemic. I don't WanNa call it sense because there's nothing common school about the way that this has been handled at any level of anything in this country. But I think it is. Yes. It's kind of like if they're letting these teams do their own thing separate from each other all thirty clubs. You mean to tell me when we take away baseball teams from that equation and start to really be able to control the playoffs scenario and where teams are and social distancing you mean to tell me that doesn't benefit. Midgely based folk no, that's exactly what that does that benefits them. There's not as many moving parts to they have to keep track of. So the idea of the season being shut down no, I asked that question jeered at the very beginning of this whole pandemic thing is, what's that number going to be, and as you just pointed out an entire fucking roster of players to become infected And that will not stop the show from going on the idea that you're thinking a season is going to be cut short now at this point or that postseason just isn't going to be a thing. No, stop it. Now it's going to be thing it's going to be a thing. So now I feel like we're just GONNA have like a full blown regular trade deadline like you're gonna like before it was a well, we feel weird trading humans under this current climate. And maybe it's all just such bullshit like come on man you can't. You can't do what you did this off season and then come back here and say. Oh. Yeah. But I feel really bad about potentially moving these guys around amidst what's going on. Oh. That's that's when you give a shit about him during the pandemic winner negotiating not paying them money and not let that's when you care. Look you. And Yeah I just think it's going to be business as usual so there's that The giants designated one hundred pants for assignment which sucks. Like. That's an end of an era type type deal. But mean, he was on bonus time I mean people forget hundred pence already did his victory lap like he already did his retired Thank you for everything tour. You just came back anyway. So you know some guys you have to tear the Jersey off their back he was one of them. Do I think he's going to play Major League baseball again, I don't know I. I feel like. It's up to him I. Don't I'm not one of those people. That's like, oh. Dude. You already fucking did your retirement toilet go retire. Let's like no. If you WANNA play baseball, go right ahead and play baseball I. DON'T CARE like people change their minds all the time just because. You announce that you weren't playing anymore, and then you change your mind like that doesn't mean that you have to go home because of what public perception who fucking cares I wanNA play baseball my my body feels like I can still go out there and do it. So I'm going to do it and and more power to him if he ends up on another team somewhere but if this is it For, one hundred pants. Hell of a fucking career for the guy. The most. Beloved San Francisco. Giant. Not Name the most beloved. San. Francisco. Giant not home grown. In a long long time in a very long time because I was going to drop the buster and I was gonna drop the mad bum. But those two dudes they could they could murder people in the middle of the street in San Francisco and Nobody would have an issue with none hunter. Pence. He's he's of that same ilk and he was not homegrown but the impact he's had in that community without fan base very tough day. I think a lot of fans to see the underpins era in in San Francisco. How. About this? Blue Jays. ACQUIRED ANNUAL bogle block the Fridge Vogue I. To be, interesting. That they've acquired vogue e and now have to first. Baseman who. In a time where if you were allowed dog probably wouldn't be able to get their arms around each other. Now, they've got some absolute units on this team. They do they can just straight up mash in another name that I don't think we've really mentioned at all on this show. I feel like we just like our sprinkling and show him some. Love all day tasker Hernandez. This fucking guy is already a double digit homers. And he reminds me a little bit not like is it reminded me of Trevor, story? But he's similar to trevor, story, in that, every homerun he hits is a fucking mile. When we went down to a spring training and twenty nineteen, we went to the. Jays Spring Training Facility, and we were there and I got the chance and this is before I even really knew who tasker Hernandez was. I got to watch him hit batting practice and he was just hitting fucking laser beams off the scoreboard and I remember like asking like who is that guy? There we go. That's towels. Hernan. What the fuck like he is like I feel like that's a name that everyone should know and he had scary power coming into this year I think he's putting himself on the map in terms of like hey, I got a power stroke I'm GonNa let you know about it but yeah, they've added another dude that's why when bluejays acquired Daniel Vogel Bach I tweeted. Blue disc can mash and they'd just added another dude who can mash people like? Well, he's hitting Oh, ninety three on the season. So who gives US Shehzad? I didn't say Daniel Vogel Balk is going to win a batting title and MVP nothing I just said when he hits the baseball, it goes really far which is an objectively factual statement that when Daniel. Vogel Bach gets a hold of one. You're talking about I. Think it was last year last. May. He hit a ball in Seattle that went up into a deck that like only Carlos Delgado had ever hit a home run that far before in Seattle. Yeah No, he can. fucking you can. You can swing it and I don't know maybe there's something there with You know you have a guy like travis shop. Who was struggling offensively with the Milwaukee brewers I got non tendered. I think that's how he became a free agent ends up in Toronto. He's having a nice little year from self. Maybe the Blue Jays can can with bogach to to get his swing back to a place where he's at least. Mendoza line batting average. But he's one of those dudes. That's GonNa hit you like low two hundreds but avenue ps that's like eight fifty plus which will take that. Very, very interesting move. Don't know how much is in there. See what the Blue Jays can extract but speaking of win. When the guys on the field? The talent is unquestionable. It's about his ability to stay on the field and Stephen Strasburg hits the shelf. Done for the year. Season ending surgery on his wrist. Having some nerve issues. With carpal tunnel. I don't know if it's is what is that what the? Diagnosis was it's I think. So Carla. Because he's going to have surgery. Yeah it looks like. CARPAL tunnel neurosis. So inflammation of those nerves. In the. CARPAL tunnel guess guy see that. Brutal. How big of a It's obviously a huge loss if you go back and walk like the Nats postseason last year like Stephen Strasburg was. Their MVP like like Stephen Strasburg was the dude. That in in a rotation that features a guy like Max Scherzer with all the hardware in the world and Patrick Corbin who they signed as a free agent to be that like last piece in we asked you know we talked to Bryce Harper about it a few months ago and he said when the nationals Patrick Corbin that's when he knew that the nationals were going to win the world series and out of those names Sherzer. Strasbourg. Corbin. was. The guy like that was the dude if you were to put the ball in the hands of one guy I I, Hey, we need a win tonight whose hands are you putting it in I, think the the overwhelmingly universal response would have been Stephen Strasburg and twenty nineteen then just white is hurts because. If the nats, we're going to have a shot. Obviously you've got to stay healthy and when you're thinking about that kind of three headed monster, you're rolling out there you love your chances and now that's gone and they hope he's going to be back. For Twenty twenty one should be fully recovered by twenty twenty one but. You just hope that this isn't something that lingers. And starts to you know put a damper on. Maybe the future. Not what I like to see. Not Happy about it and arguably. ME arguably. The biggest losers here. Are the starting nine fantasy baseball team who? Drafted Stephen Strasburg. Seven. Second overall. So or our second overall pick I apologize. Not Number two overall in the draft. Pick. So. shutout destroy hopefully he's able to recover get back on the bump not being able to feel the baseball not fund you're. Not a good place I've never been able to do it. Labor. Labor Day. No Labor de Novo Labor Day it's Labor Day and he's laboring with a bad Hammy. A. and. We kind of talked about this at the beginning of the PODCAST. The Yankees I. pissed off somebody has pissed off A. A shaulis hubs, it was somewhere. You can't like the second that the Yankees Sangare Colin Hubs, declare them World Series Champions. I you can't. You can't do that baseball God you're going to get pissed off. Your Yankee Fan listening to this at Barstool hubs is who you one director anger towards. He was a little Douche all off season about the Yankees being world beaters and world dominators. But I don't think a team has ever won the world series in an offseason before. I actually was very watching him do the little parades that he was holding for his team in December and I was like dude, I mean I've been there before I mean when the Red Sox Chris Sale, they didn't. They didn't win the world series right away. It took a year but gleyber torres wasn't exactly the Gleyber Torres that we've been accustomed to seeing in years past isn't to thirty one with a six, thirty, six S and that's not the glacier that we all love and and watch. This is a guy that when he's rights. I. Need to go back and it was like twenty had been twenty eighteen when j declared or he had like he had yet A. J. Hey no. A like players that started out like with X. amount of XYZ numbers they all ended up being hall of famers or something like that. He's like we'll revisit this in twenty years. I was like, okay great. I can't wait I can't discussion twenty years from now but glacier we all know is especially baseball player and his numbers this year not indicative. Of the player that he is in the talent that he is. So what is a big loss but we keep talking about these guys like I, it was stand then it was judge and judge was actually supposed to come back this weekend but the Yankees had their games against the mets postponed because of a couple of positive tests over there and their organization. But Stanton down. Judge. Down Lemay mayhew down glacier down and it's like. All, right? Yeah. Like when when we're talking about the first two is and then maybe three guys you keep going back to the next man up and it's like, yeah well, they got Mike four and they got luc void has been fucking like voice been one of the best offensive players in baseball pretty much since he got to New York honestly. But I again just this year I specifically you can say next man up as much as you want. But eventually you're going to run out of men to be the next up like who the fuck are you going your whole the middle of the Infield has gone in your corner outfielder like what are you? What are we talking about? I don't know I don't know what they're gonNA do but I will say Alice. In listen closely. This is some Some. Good stuff. I think the where they add like a couple doubleheaders coming up this weekend like to. Yes I, believe so. And I feel like. Because James. Paxton going to go on the injured list and he'll join Luis Severino who's been there all year. Filling, the Yankees. Vic, they're going to need a pitcher they're going to be in the market. Aren't even think it's going to be a trade. I feel like they. They've got some pretty good options internally. Would you agree? Yeah well, they've got a youngster. Young fellow. Right. Yeah right hander yeah. Clark. Yeah. Jared. Again that whole news breaker news reactor thing that we talked a lot about. Other look I'm just going to say it. Yeah if I were a Yankee Fan. I would I would be watching the transaction wire I'd be paying attention to that. because. I. GotTa feel like Clark Schmidt. Is In correspondence with the Yankee Front office. To feel like his camp has been notified. Fi I'm Clark Schmidt I'm probably bracing for a major league debut sooner rather than later. Yeah. All I'm saying is I'm trying to imply anything DALLAS. It's not it's not my bag But if you're a Yankee Fan and you are I, don't know interested in the news of your top pitching prospect hauled up, I don't know maybe maybe turn my post notifications on maybe if you want to be the first to know about Clark, Schmidt getting called up. Maybe just. Hit that little. Bell. ICON turn those posts notifications on and. Maybe, you you could be the first to find out. that. The Schmidt ehre has begun in the Bronx. It's coming. And they would love they would love to be able to answer that question internally. That's the best way to go. Everybody would love to be able to pull somebody up stay in house not have to go spend money and make that move. Clark Smith as an individual who represents just that. Yeah. Judge is expected back in the lineup tonight. So we'll see we'll see what he looks like when he's coming back year according to him, he's one hundred percent that's a fucking lock. Your Boy Chaz Roe Dallas Jazz Rio hit the shelf. It the shelf elbows borough. Woke what working just a little bit more than just a little bit but when you have one of the Games. If not de Games best slider jared. Shit like that tends to happen but. I mean the guy's been dealing two, zero, two, eight, nine, ten appearances this season. So he's going to hit the shelf. and. That's tough. That's tough because. The rays had lost. Raise of Awesome Guys Yeah Yawn Torino's. Going to have Tommy John He'll be done until Buchan what twenty, twenty, two. Brennan McKay. Left hitting two way player. Gone. Andrew Ridge. Collin Potion. All of them done for the year. So this Chaz Roe News. Not, too, exciting either no not happy about that. Not thrilled whatsoever. But I think this is a situation where the race can overcome this and and the other factor here tyler glass. Now who I believe tonight he hasn't gotten going yet like Tyler Glasner Ben, the guy that I picked to be the American League Cy Young Award winner this year we haven't seen him yet. We've seen flashes of it for sure like is his I believe it was it was his last out against the Yankees like he had electric stuff like there's never any question about his stop It usually is like a matter of command You know because if you're running up there ninety nine but you're you know middle middle guys can hit that so You Get Glasnost and I think that you can. You can. Really. Have, a division race, because if you recall Dallas at the beginning of the year. We. Did our we did our preseason picks podcasts and I believe both you and Jay Gimme a lot of Shit for picking the Tampa Bay rays to win the American League East this year I feel like that's unfair because here we are about to enter the final month of the season and I guess is a first place is Tampa Bay rays. First. Place my half a ballgame by a half a ballgame. But they're in first place the New York. Yankees are legitimately. Cashman is in his phone right now scrolling through contacts of people that can play baseball. They would show up. GIAMBI is Giambi. Any. Michael one for five with four punches, but the tank he hits is going to be massive. Like third deck massive massive. Yes. So the raise look they're they're in the driver's seat as of today they're in the driver's seat. There's there's not much to argue about their but with the injuries that I just listed to the pitching staff and the fact that your boy now is not as right as he would be right now that window of opportunity is still open whether you like to believe it or not. If you're the New York Yankees they've still got shot and look. The JAYS the Orioles? Out Most those teams I think I, think the birds are only the orioles are only. Four Games for. So. It's a race I mean like every every team in the American League East is. is making a run at it right now, and that's I, mean, that's fun. It's fun to watch. American League Baseball with every team, the raise the Yankees, the Jays Orioles, just four games separating all those teams. That's crazy. Final thoughts photos division to watch. Down the. Stretch. Ooh, because we've got the L. least. Only four games separate. The first four teams we've got the L. Central where seven and a half games separate the Tigers from the Chicago or from the Minnesota twins who were in first place. So he's got the twins, the Indians and the white sox all within two and a half games of each other the Al West, which will be won by the Oakland A.'s doesn't seem very competitive outside of the as in the Astros. So you're probably just watching that to watch the as chick should adv everybody else which I'm a big fan of. East. That whole division is only separated by four games. The phillies at ten and fourteen all the way to the Atlanta Braves who were sixteen twelve only four games separates those the central. Now, that can get interesting. Milwaukee brewers streak. While the cards in the Chicago Cubs to be stumble you never know. But as of right now, it looks like the Chicago cubs have an absolute strangle on that division. And the PARNELL's are taking up second place in L. West. Now you gotTa Watch you know West folks you watch the you know West because the dodgers are so God good and there are fun to watch if you are able to watch their baseball games and you don't live in La And the Padres we've said I think really all there can be said about the boundaries to this. Superstar that are putting asses in the seats. So. For me I think one of the most intriguing. Divisions to watch one of the funniest racist to watch is going to be the Ale. Central. and. One of the you just can't. You just won't know until it's over we'll be the least. you know what division I want to pick. And I still Michael. But I won't. The most exciting division to watch down the stretch is going to be the central because the white sox and Indians are both two and a half games back in the MINNESOTA, twins and. Like we you pointed out the strike and it's like, all right. You got the brain you're your the Marlins, the mets, the nats phillies. Yes, they're separated by four games but. All of those teams are not teams that by as playoff teams, I don't buy all those teams as like if they get into the postseason, they could actually make a little bit of a run well everybody but the Marlins has a coin flip shot of making the postseason aside from the nats. What did they said? They're like, what can they do? Like I don't know that I buy a routine being like a hey, you never know what could happen but and they all central I do feel that way about those three teams, twins, Cleveland Indians, Chicago White Sox. I think of any one of those three teams make the postseason which I think all three of them will. You're going to see all three of those teams in October, but which team is going to win that division should be the twins. Could the white sox fuck around. Get, hot mean. You they've got better run differential ever. So slightly than the Cleveland Indians and the Indians were the team that everyone was like Oh yeah. They're definitely like a shoe in for at least second place in that division. So that's that's the one that I'm watching I. think that's going to be the best if you're looking for. Three teams or more having a legitimate competition for a division title. The Al Central is where you're gonNA find that competition WHO's the second wildcard team in the Al because it's going to be. either. The white sox or the twins or excuse me the white socks or the Indians, and we could even throw the twins in there but their first place right now. So if it were to end today, the Chicago White, SOx would be one wildcard team. And then WHO's the next wildcard team here? I mean it's yeah. You'RE GONNA have. If there's if there's eight playoff teams in each league it's like the raise Yankees twins Indians white sox. As Astros. and. And like I said, it's the white sox are Indians for one of the wildcard, teams And then it's up to this between the Rangers and the Mariners in the West. Between the Blue Jays in the orioles in the east. Yeah who's that a team? Over at the fucking bluejays. fucking orioles. I hope it's the Blue Jays. I. It's Orioles purely because you remember very early on in the beginning of the season where I ask you. What happens if the orioles went five in a row? What happens if the Marlins, when six in a row and get fucking hot? Well, you see what happens the marlins planet in second place right now in the orioles are knocking on the door of a bug a wild card berth. Yeah. It's it's going to be I mean I. Didn't realize that eighth spot is going to end up being a team that. Objectively speaking does have belong there could probably not be five hundred. Yeah. Like that. That eighth team is going to be a team that is. Barely, five hundred if they are. But it's going to be a team where it's like Oh, Shit. Okay. All right. So the Blue Jays are here like that could happen and if it does happen, I can't wait to go back on tsn up in Toronto and and talk about like, Hey, remember before the season when I said that this could be the blue like figure it out and they get they sneak in their loved that. I'm all I'm all for this. We'll see we'll see. We'll see. All right. Episode. One of the week we got another one coming at you probably Thursday Thursday Thursday see layers week.

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Who are really good team with a six two one win and now the cubs have won nine of their last ten games and they are doing their thing in the nfl. Central people thought maybe the cubs. We're going the other way after the off season and some changes and not knowing exactly After they got knocked out of the playoffs a year ago. But here we are past memorial day and the cubs are playing good baseball. I mean nine out of ten and beating team like The padres who came to Wrigley field says a lot heavier. Baya's a continues to swing a bat number. Two vlad guerrero junior. You remember came into the major leagues with a lot of fanfare. People expected them to be the next big thing got off to a good start but then faded other young players kinda jumped in and took the spotlight away from them. But that's not the case anymore in toronto. The first basement is truly an american league. Mvp candidate you ready for this tuesday night. Glad saw seven pitches total at the plate and had four hits off of seven pitches including his seventeenth. Home run of the year and you know the crowd at the game in buffalo chanted mvp mvp mvp and rightfully so he has been playing lights out baseball and he's turned into that player that a lot of people thought he would be. His dad is a hall of famer and he's playing like one at least early on in twenty twenty one number three wednesday. June second was the first inaugural lou gehrig day celebrated by major league baseball. It happened on june second which is significant both with the date in one thousand nine hundred twenty five that garrick came the yankees starting first baseman and the date in one thousand nine hundred forty one when he passed away at age. Thirty seven lou. Gehrig was an unbelievable baseball player. Garrick played for the new york yankees from one thousand nine hundred twenty three to one thousand nine hundred ninety nine time. All-star won the world series six times with the yankees triple crown winner. Nineteen thirty four one. Al batting championship three time home. One leader in the american league wants hit four home runs in one game back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. It was a yankee captain from nineteen thirty five to one thousand nine hundred ninety nine and the yankees retired is number four and of course he got that horrible disease the prime of his life that wound up being named after him and everybody knows that incredible speech. He gave at yankee stadium when he said with the big megaphone and everybody listening that he considers himself the luckiest man on the face of the earth. Lou gehrig a great man and a great honor for baseball number four arizona diamondback broadcaster. Bob branly apologized on wednesday following a comment. He made about met star. Marcus stroman do rag during the broadcast tuesday night at chase field. That's right. He was trying to be funny and he wound up saying on the broadcast quote. I'm sure that's the same. Do rag that. Tom seaver used to wear when he for the mets. It didn't go over well with stroman. Who said it had racial overtones. A do rag is basically cover your hair or give you waves to hold it down. And so brazenly has apologize and he said quote during last night's game. I made a poor tempted humor that was insensitive and wrong. Brindley went on to say quote. I apologize to marcus. Stroman and have reached out directly to share those thoughts. I have had several conversations with the backs and we agreed that seeking sensitivity treatment is an important step so that i can continue to learn from our mistakes in order to be better in future and quote. Bravo to branly apologize. If you didn't mean anything by it and move on and understand that people the different just because someone wears something different. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your comes the big interview listen and hendler which so good now let's welcome to the program and it's kind of fitting because it's nba playoff season. Let's welcome former. Nba guard eddie house. Who won a championship with the celtics in two thousand and eight but for people who don't know played baseball loves baseball and loves to talk about it. Thanks for joining the podcast. Eddie anytime brother. You already know no doubt fernando tat tatis. Junior was named al player of the month. How much do you enjoy watching this guy play baseball. Why the reason why i enjoy the most is because he. He's a new school baseball player. He throws all the old Unwritten rules out the window He wants to have fun Playing baseball and i think at times you know you you stick with those unwritten rules. It can become boring at times you know. I like to see some life in baseball. Like to see you know god go back and forth. You know trevor. Bauer even applauded him. Like hey you know what. He didn't like the fact that he took a look down at at the signing looks like but he didn't mind him with the the the the way he ran around the bases or how he switched to bad is that i think that's a new age of baseball. I think it should continue to go that way as long as it's respectful. You know within the game nothing personal but within the gang. I think he's great for the game. I agree. I love watching the guy play. He's on turning the tv on. You know a gotta see him Let's talk about your oakland. Go up in the bay area. Ricky henderson was your favorite player growing up and the they're going to win the division again. I mean You know they're leading the al wes but they've had trouble turning that into the playoffs. You know and advancing in the playoffs. A team. many different resist the same kind of thing that we have been seeing where just regular season team man. You know what i mean. you know. History was saying that this is who they are and you know me and my pot we talk all the time about the as and the reason why they can't get through playoff series and he came up with something he said something to me and it started kind of resonated and it started making a whole lot of sense where team built for the regular season. Got guys that play for the regular season. We just don't have those superstar post-season think about the times that postseason of breakout player or a guy a superstar think about the themes that were going to world series at one world series. They had those guys they had those game. Changers one swing of the bat A guy to get on base and still a few bases in you know fly Fly out to the outfield. A sacrifice plotted outfield. Brings him in now. You have one nothing We had really good pitching which i think the as always across the board usually year in a you're out they really have really good pitching and pretty solid defense to me is just having that guy in the lineup that at any given moment can break open the game Well once going to bed. And i think that's what's lacking with ages has been lacking we are regular season team to where we're built for Hundred sixty two games you know. I know they're not playing. That were built for that Many just regular season. You know not warlock in series aware superstars takeover. Because you know that you know you make your name in the playoffs. Not during the regular season. And i mentioned a little bit ago that ricky henderson was your favorite player. What was it about ricky. Obviously a hall of famer stole a gazillion basis. Hit for power. Let off games hit home. Runs hit for average. He was a great great all around player. Yeah he was out. He was original in the bay area and oakland we call. We know you pop your collar when you feel like you. Fresh you live man. You know you get to talk. He's the original color pop. Pop is on the way around. The bases He just have flare from oakland. The bay area The way he played with speed power with possess with flair with a confidence You know he was definitely the reason why i won't baseball. He was the guy that i look. I gravitate to and i'm like man. I'm trying to be like i'm going to do everything like in down to how iran. How bad is everything. I tried to emulate everything that he did This because i just thought he was great to meet. I the best baseball Greatest baseball player to ever play. That's my opinion and we can argue back and forth. Everybody can say whatever they want to say. But in my opinion that's how i feel about it And i got to watch it up close and personal you know my whole life and actually get to see games and watching actually do it live so That that's the thing about. Ricky that has got me man is just the way he played the game. It was like always a hundred ten. You know you get on base. You almost book a stolen base. I'll guess former. Nba guard in nba champion. Eddie house here on the inside the park podcasts. Yes he is a huge baseball fan. We always talk about all the time couple of questions. I want to ask you eddie. And were just talking. About how great ricky was. I got a new name nickname for shohei me money otani who is another one and he liked ever heading so hey because that dude is unbelievable we've never seen reminiscent of player in the major leagues. Like this since babe. Ruth who could pitch at that at that level hit home runs at that level. Can this guy be the mvp of the american league even if the angels don't make the playoffs well if he continues to play the way he does pitch the way does hit the way. I don't see how he couldn't be you. You said it. There hasn't been a player since they whenever you have to put that sent. You know we're not talking about a two week span you know when people say oh. It hasn't been a player has done this in a month. Stand sent or in two weeks band since or in three games. Though when you say to a player hasn't done it in the history of the game since guy over a hundred years ago. You know babe. Ruth i mean or one hundred years ago. I mean i don't know if you have to be. Hey you have to have to hate greatness. You hate to see greatness happening and say man. It's so sad that that guys on that seem that bad. But he's that good it would be great to see him on a big stage if he was on the yankees. This'll be hands. Down is the mvp on Any the dodgers hands down if he was just in the other part of town. He's in the wrong part of town as california. No doubt all right lasting how surprised you francisco lindores struggles in the big apple. This guy was a on path and obviously just two months of this season but to be a hall of famer and cleveland. You and you played a lot of teams in the nba. Is your big difference when you you know like for him. Sign a big contract. Go to the big city expectations players. you think. Put too much pressure on themselves. After they signed deals like that. I don't think that that's it. I think once you eat it two things that happened when players signed deals. And you've seen this cover sports rough. It's either that player has to show. This is the reason why they gave me that money or they got happy that that's all they wanted to do was get that fat check and their Their performance declined so with me. I'm thinking that you said at first. He was in cleveland. Naturally baseball is different from american league. Baseball care how anybody wants to spend. We know bayport rob national league baseball different from american league baseball the same way that the eastern conference the western conference the nfc at times is different from the afc. So i think that that has a part to play in Just seeing and being in the big apple. There's a lot of pressure you know. Cleveland of the small market area. You know big fish in a in a in a small pond where now. Hey you're big fish but there's bigger fish out there and each you and i think you know possibly i don't know this because i don't know the man maybe the pressures of the big city and having to perform it's something that had him over thinking instead of going out there playing and reaction that he's out there pressing trying to impress and show. Hey this is the reason why was worth as instead of showing is going out there and playing because that's usually when you play your best ball and whatever sport it is is when you're going out there playing you're not thinking over thinking things. His name is eddie houseman. Thanks for joining us on the podcast. Love talking baseball with the eddie. Appreciate you. no problem bro. anytime fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. Arte listen live. He works hard but he's never too busy for you. Here's to all the dads out there. Who taught you so much as a kid and still continues to teach cold celebrates dad not just june twentieth but every single day with gifts that will mean a lot to him not more than your handprint heart finger painting from third grade. But you get the idea. Coles has tons of gift ideas from outdoor entertaining like grills and equipment. 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But it was the way he did at the turn. Heads he threw a whopping twenty seven pitches at one hundred miles an hour or faster and ten pitches at one. Oh one or faster tying the record since things like that were tracked. Those twenty seven pitches. Were the most by any starter and third most by any pitcher ever as far back as we can go. He's now thrown. Eighty eight pitches at one hundred miles per hour or faster. The season every other star in the league combined as throwing just thirty six pitches at that velocity in fact since two thousand eight or when that kind of tracking began no starter has thrown more triple digit pitches in a single season than degrom has through two months of the two thousand twenty one campaign. The closest was his teammate. Noah syndergaard who threw fifty two pitches at har miles per hour. Back in two thousand sixteen he also mazzy. Mlb for most starts allowing one earned run or fewer to begin a season with eight right now. It seems a ceo is gonna be in grade with grams name but who knows maybe some. Mvp votes will start coming his way as well with his unprecedented start to the season was a big week in the big leagues. Or is it fair and now from. Mlb bro dot com. Here's jr gamble. Mets daughter marcus. Stroman was a subject of what many people feel was a comment with racist undertones when diamondbacks announcer bob. Brindley commented on stroman. Do rag saying it's the same. Do rag. Tom seaver war when he was with the mets. Jr is if foul or fair to say that brindley should apologize to strowman fast. That is a foul. As much as i love. Stroman in admit that brent comments were more evidence of a cultural disconnect where mediocre white guy who played in the eighties comments on the fashion choices of the thirty year old black new yorker expressing his culture freely within the rules of the game more so bad than being racist but i've found in more comical and entertaining ben races but social media is all about piling on and what's the cat was out of the bag the black cat so to speak and stroman accused bradley comments of being subliminal racism then that opened the floodgates for an attack the story switched and it went from a failed shot at comedy to a knock on black culture and one of the rare black pitchers in the game who has been performing fantastically by the way. Yes he speaks his mind. But bradley's comments coupled with the confrontation between stroman and a few diamondback players gave me an uncomfortable feeling his this guy. He's out here competing his heart out and representing the mets and a large contingent of baseball fans. Who would otherwise. Not even be acknowledging the mets and he's not going to back down from anyone stroman character a competitor a story of one kid defined the biggest odds to make it in the game. Dude like that is going to happen edge. He's exactly what the game needs and he's an mlb bro. So brindley shouldn't have to apologize but yes he needs to get educated on. Watch stroman with the do rag in the first place. It's not the end of the world but it's the end of bradley jokes at the expense of the players of color. Daddy covers money into more money though. It's time for betting on the basis with dave gas guy. Love that money that money rob. What's up man. We'll look at things on a friday as we get into the weekend dodgers and braves in the eight l. Julio re is going for los angeles in this one that is why. I'd like the dodgers for two different reasons. One reas has been fantastic. The season you can look at walker bueller. Of course trevor. Bauer even clayton kershaw but arenas has been superb seven and two record three sixty one. Era and that's despite the fact that is roughed up in his last outing against the san francisco giants where you went five innings and got tagged up a little bit but i look for him to bounce back taking the dodgers and the money line to win this one in atlanta hawks in also get things underway from the bronx. I'm taking the over in this ball game just because he often firepower. It's evident for both teams. The pitching has not been stellar. Like the over in this heated matchup between american league east rivals. The other one i do. Like milwaukee brewers biggest reason for this is not because of what they do. But it's because with arizona cannot do wanna worst teams at all major league baseball brett anderson versus matt peacock and the pitching matchup. I am taking. The milwaukee brewers at home and american family field for the win in that affair. That's it. i'm out taped. it's time for trash. Talk twitter your chance to trash anyone or anything in major league baseball. This week's trask comes. From at the goner he tweets at me. I'm trashing the mets for not being able to ever score for degrom and you know what at the governor is right. It is unbelievable. How the mets. Bats don't work whenever jacob degrom is on the mound. This guy has been unbelievable. Era under one and yet it's hard for him to get wins if you want your tweet to get On the podcast. Hit me up at rob parker f s one and yes. You can trash anything anyone in the world of baseball. When rob was a newspaper columnist he lived by this motto. If i'm writing i'm rippin. Let's bring in a writer. Broadcaster older new. Now let's welcome into the program job. Paul morosi of course fox. Mlb insider john. Paul welcome to the podcast rob. I am doing great. my friend. Hope you do well to what a great time of year. Nba play-offs nhl playoffs. Of course major league baseball love this time of year. My friends no doubt about tell me you know what i'm still scratching my head about the tampa bay rays you know they keep getting rid of pitchers right and they just keep winning. They wanted unbelievable streak of sixteen out of seventeen. How were they doing it. what am i missing. And why are they good or robert. It's a great question. And i would say this. The rains have area job at at the committee approach to pitching but it only works when they have a tremendous eighth leading the way and right now that as is is tyler glass now started some of the best in baseball. And we talk so much really. They were ahead of time with the opener. Of course with rob. Let's not forget what happened when they started the opener. They had blake's snow as a cy young award winners he is. What made the whole thing work. And now you have the ability to balance things out with glass now pitching great and now rich rich forty one years young. My friend from the university of michigan. The american league pitcher of the month in may his curveball breaking pitches shape in different ways he found. The founder of the rays are like a pitching laboratory rob. They're pitching graduate school with great ideas coming in and out and they find a way to get every single pitcher every player to his absolute peak. No doubt about it has been amazing. Let's talk about Somebody else who's come over to the blue jays and has blossomed and had a fantastic year. Marcus simeon their second basement moved over from shortstop was just named the player of the month. Of may what a nice pickup for the blue jays in boise playing. Well what a great player. What a great person robbie. Someone who of course played college baseball at cal. Berkeley incredible student great student athlete and really went on to have a tremendous career in oakland and the market was a little difficult. I think for him. So many other middle infielders either available this past winter or coming up next winter so teams weren't totally comfortable locking himself into a of long term commitments right now. The market semi-in was one of the very best signings of any team this past winter. And i think you think you think about the the adaptability of player who's a marquee three someone who's been star level player for a long time in this game to sign with a new team and say yeah all move to a different position out of respect to younger player in boba shot and now he comes out and hits the way that he has. I love the story rob because of the great teammate. And he's really set a good example that respect and you win great. Things happen a great people. Marcus i great guy tremendous ambassador for the sport and has really taken his game to the next level in toronto. One of the best one again when you think about what black junior has been doing. Hey oscar hernandez back in the mix as well. I love with jesus knew very tough division right now rob the american league east right now. I'll guess is John paul morosi of course fox. Mlb insider and j p. Let me ask you about the white sox. You know had the controversy with tony larussa. But they've won seven of their last ten games into wednesday and you know they still lead in the al central. Have they weathered the storm throughout that little controversy That was following tony. Larussa rob zinser is the best team in the american league. Central full stop. The twins have tumbled back there now. A second division team actually seeing the time display. Pretty good baseball. How about that. Sweet for the tigers of the yankees. But in general the american league central the class of miss division right now clearly is the white sox. That's pretty high. Praise when you consider. They are now without luiz robert and eli jimenez. Two thirds of dynamic outfield. So maybe we'll see them make a move at the deadline. But as you and i heard jimmy say many times talent wins and i'll take talent rooster right now as the most talented team in the al central and while that was the possibility of a distraction. You have a lot of highly motivated players. Who really think maybe on some level they benefited from from what tony larussa brings to a club earlier on them. The season but jose abreu is motivated. Because we have the person tim anderson. Self motivated person. These players did not need the extrinsic motivation of whatever was going on with the rusen. Yemi mercedes they are great players because they are great players and they're motivated to win a world series championship. They know how great they can be as a group and especially with the pitching. Might they got it right now with len and kyko in that group giolito. They've got plenty of pitching to carry them so that the team is gonna win the division rob. I am almost certain of that here. In twenty twenty one speaking of winning the division the nl west got to be the best division in baseball. The giants have the best record in the national league. Second best in baseball and you look at the giants with thirty four wins padres with thirty four. Wins dodgers with thirty two. This is all coming into wednesday's action. Who's going to win that division. Because i picked the padres to win it. The dodgers are still hanging in despite all the injuries. They're going to get those guys back but the giants you know what still winning. Well if you're gonna ask me today. Rob and i probably would have picked. I did pick during spring training to still have the dodgers as the champion out there. But i look at padres right now and one thing. I really like about what's happened to their club. This season is already had to whether some gruesome utah was out for a period of time and at times has has struggled defensively. They were able to weather. That machado at times has dealt with some physical stuff but he has been there still. And you seem player. Stepping up like trenton. Grisham like j cronin worth will myers has been important different times eric. Hosmer has been crucial at different times. It's been a committee approach. And so when. I see a team that that has had to draw on different players to really have a key responsibility for various stretches of the season. I look at that and say when you're in october and one when one guy is getting pitch around or one guys in an over seventeen stretching the series in october and there's panic you have enough to weather that storm. The padres are showing that the dodd of course. We know they've got it rob. There's so many things going on. Their segers bent out. Bellinger's been out for a while. Mookie betts injuries to around in the season. The second half of the dodger lineup right now. Rob is not as good as it has been in the past. That lack of overall lineups in the end will swing this division in san diego's favor speaking of the dodgers in them. How shock where you that. They picked up. Albert pools obviously told albert that this wasn't abou- chasing numbers or anything like that. You know that they could use them. And and have a right handed bat and there'd be some matchups and situations from to get some swings. How surprised at how well he's done. So far and and him fitting with the dodgers for the rest of the season. I was surprised at the initial signing. I didn't think he was gonna sign with an nfl team. But the more that i heard about what the plan was an albert buying into it the more sense it made and i really think did for a player of albert's pedigree caliber and character clarity of communication was crucial. And i think that with the angels and gotten complicated whether it was the emergence of walsh. Tony that bats etc with the dodgers very simple. Hey albert you're going to play first base against lefties we're gonna pinch it you in a situation you're going to play. You may play against some writers depending on how things play out with muncie and they've been true to their word and also helps them from albert standpoint. He has one of his best friends in the world. So i see no palumbo who you and i both know. Wealth from detroit He's in dodger for an office. And i think there was a lot of familiarity there that helped him out in a big way so i really admire. Albert's willingness to take on a new challenge the way the dodgers clearly articulated with the role was going to be. 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The Sports Reporters - Episode 172 - NFL Draft Talk. A compelling & entertaining NBA Playoffs. And the talented youth in the MLB

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 172 - NFL Draft Talk. A compelling & entertaining NBA Playoffs. And the talented youth in the MLB

"This. This is the splitter glitters. Hi, this is Robert wall from the upcoming book the game within the game. This is Mike live again MSNBC MLB dot com. And and welcome to what is going to be a really fun edition of the sports reporters podcast, Mr. album is off selling books in South Africa. Ryan is traveling. But we have fortunately, our honorary sports reporter and a guy who is really a sports of pay played one brilliantly on television as are less. My path Robert wall. So good morning. Robert good morning, Michael. How are you today? Well, you know, it we are having this conversation on the the morning of the NFL Jessil. So let's start there, and I will have a parting shot evoking, the wisdom of our dear friend, we have gone once that nobody knows anything. This is a festival of that tonight. But we'll get to that. But Robert I continue to be fascinated by a player named Kyla Murray. And the speculation that the cardinals one year after taking Josh Rosen are going to take with the first pick in the draft a guy about home people have been obsessed about his size almost since he was one in the Heisman Trophy on the drive over here. My system was telling the, you know, are they really going to take a guy after they took the quarterback you're in high should at this point. I don't see how they can't take him shocked. Just what are you going to say to your fan base? When you just finished last in football. You drafted a quarterback who no one apparently was in love with granted. The guy didn't have great stuff around him. But you just hired a coach who is geared towards this quarterback. Right. How do you not sell that? How are you going to sell to the fan base that you're not drafting I think just holding on and holding on? Hoping for a better deal for Josh roses. The only thing I'm thinking of. How do you not sell that at this point in my wrong? Do you think I'm crazy nano Robert you're on? I'm completely on board with what you're saying. Because first of all they've already made a risky higher with cliff kingdom. Right. Okay. This guy for this guy that they are buying into the notion that Kingsbury despite a overall sketchy record as a college football coach and ethic guy who was about to become an offensive coordinator backing college. Okay. They're making a bet that he's a quarterback whisper and they're going to kit strike lightning again with a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback from Oklahoma the way, the Cleveland Browns and remember Robert a year ago at this time. I don't I'm not sure anybody was sure that the Browns we're gonna take Baker Mayfield. And we were obsessed about his size. Also a year after Baker Mayfield. And maybe just as importantly, more importantly, two years after Pat Mahomes, right? And this is Pat Mahomes, do so. I like that. So I mean, everybody wanted I just don't know how you can sell it to the fan base at this point. If you don't do otherwise, you should've trade the pick by now, I think I think my own gut just tells me they're trying to hold out and my could be wrong. I was wrong in nineteen was a nineteen ninety seven the the. They're holding out for a better deal for Rosen. Is you only say could think about somebody's gonna get lucky with ROY? And again, we just don't know about Rosen. I loved him coming out of UCLA. I liked his attitude. I liked his his I like to size. I like the fact that he was cocky, I like the fact that he thought he was the best quarterback in the room. He wasn't because Baker Mayfield was in Sam darnold may turn out to be the silver medallist. Okay. Somebody who's looking for a quarterback is gonna go back and look at how they graded Josh Rosen. And and I think there's going to be a good market for Rosen. But Robert, I don't think somebody's going to have to pay high to to get it because in an odd way he's damaged goods because the cardinals are saying we're giving up on him after an incredibly small sampling of performance. You know, this goes back to something. I was thinking about run this by you might football is. Oh, specialized all sports and everything's becoming specialized with openers and baseball and everything else. But a guy like Murray a guy Mahomes is an outline because he just great all over the place when you come down to inside the twenty yard line. And you've got a guy who can move like Murray or a Mayfield or a or especially Mahomes. It's almost like having a closer in baseball. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Brit take unless you've got a superstar Tom Brady. Take out the quarterback put this guy in on the ten yard line because he can drive defense his crazy. It's just like having the great closer. It's like having Josh Hader like having Marianna to have. So even if you called onto Rosa for a little bit when it comes inside the twenty in the fifteen red zone. These guys are going to be you're going to see more and more of these guys. I think actually see with the exception of of the great quarterbacks la- great quarterbacks. You're gonna see a lot more of these guys coming in. Yeah. And again, Mahomes is whatever average size is for. NFL player. What is six two or three? He you know, he he doesn't look that big on a football field bigger than you think. Okay. But all how fast is the narrative change, and it's Robert it's a copycat league. Okay. And all of a sudden everybody looks at a behind the back all I can throw it left handed quarterback like Mahomes with his skill set. And all of a sudden Cuyler Murray size doesn't matter as much as the potential for magic. You're exactly right. They're looking for Mahomes magic in this draft. And so they're going to coach who coached Mahomes. Okay. And say okay sprinkle some of that pixie dust on Kyla Murray. And you don't have to make him bigger. But if he can do some of those point guard things. Okay. Some of those match point guard things Mahomes does. Yeah, we're going to bet big on him with the first pick tonight. Plus, it's exciting for the fans. It's exciting. That's. What does this NFL? What is the whole draft built around? It's built around. Hope. It's totally built around hope what everybody's involved this. And you know, the NFL. For all its horrible negatives. Boy, I wish everybody was run as well. As the NFL know, there's for I mean, if you look at about the United States capitalism everything else the NFL is. I mean when they announced the schedule they get a prime time show that outranks everything else on sports. It's just amazing. It's Cosell said fifty years ago it embodies a things Americans love most speed and violence and its tribal, and it's just it's just a just a great. I mean, the people wanted it's going to over four days. Now this thing it's it is amazing Robin Roberts on board. They're putting it on ABC. I mean, it's a great show. They are and they're selling hope and all these pundits. And it's amazing. How? They're doing their job. And it's a great gig. It's amazing how a year from now. No one's talking about who they pick last year. Nobody because they're all going to be wrong. Most of the time. Oh, that's always the case. But it's also good stories here. I think also in the draft one of them is is both because probably the best player in this draft. Apparently. So he didn't play last year. That's number one. And also there was a great article in the New York time just about the tweets in this guy in the jury the article about this guy who was very apparently pretty conservative, very conservative guy. He's been strolling tweets that may some people may find offensive. So I don't think if they took them in Arizona, they find him offensive, Arizona. But in other places, they might and in today's meet to society, I mean with with the Kate Smith situation and everything else going on. I'm not so sure how he plays in a New York or LA thing right now. I mean, unless he just it's just a fluke and keeps his mouth shut. I don't know. I mean, art society now dictates a lot of stuff on this Chapman should have been a dodger, you know, and the stolen. Yeah. That was because of a PC. So I don't know. But he's terrific. Well, he did. He did. Yeah. No. I know some violence against a girlfriend and oh, by the way in the heat of anger firing godless off into a garage. But why why why was that not okay, I live in Los Angeles there. Now, I live your heftier, and I know the feeling in Los Angeles as opposed to New York and New York's no. Toughest gun laws in the country. So it was interesting that suddenly they couldn't have this guy and yet in New York after stealing, right? So different -ociety where everything there is an addendum to just about everything. Now, it that's why they test these guys to the way they do and the idiotic Wunderlich test. And all the stuff we've ever heard about them. And and you're right. Okay. And when they make these determinations, okay, all of a sudden, they're going to let the future of a franchise hinge on the fact that a kid might smoke some weed while he was in college. Listen, we're out we were out in LA. My son works out there. Now, my wife, and I and we're walking down advocate and Ventura the other day, and I I don't think I've led a sheltered life, Robert. And I'm aware that what's happening would legalize marijuana. All of a sudden I walked past oh med. Marijuana places. Yeah. And guess what? There was a line out the door. It was very funny. They had there was a recent incident where woman young girl set up a girl scout cookie place right next door to one and was making two hundred fifty dollars an hour and a whole story about her setting growth ahead of coming out hungry. But what you're saying is, right. This is the night and always say this about especially the playoffs. Okay. Little things become big things in play offs. Okay. A comet. You know, something one player says about another an altercation little things become big things. It's the same thing with the NFL draft. And it's funny. It's Robert it's almost like they go looking for red flags. Okay. As part of their investigatory process. They they're almost looking to get talked out of something that they actually think might be right. And and some tweets that some not head tweets that guy made at some point in his life could be there's a little thing becoming a big thing. Right. Also. Or they try to get cute. That's the other thing too. Some general managers try to get cute. They're to outsmart everybody. I'm hearing some people thinking that the jets you take it Oliver of Houston. I have to tell you as a distinguished alumni of the university of Houston. We're at Oliver played this guy quit on his team totally quit on his team. He was much better in his freshman and sophomore years when he was in his last years. He was big attitude problems, huge attitude problems quit on the team didn't play the last half a year. This is there's talent there, you know. And who knows what happens, but this is not Warren Sapp who was you know, they worried about but he never quit on his team. Like this guy. He played he you know, he was he was star. And they were worried about that. I would be very concerned about Oliver being the top couple of picks there as opposed to Josh Allen who from Kentucky who at least character wise is the only guy I think the top five or so wasn't a national championship who actually played. In a bowl game not worrying about his future for the character of his team. And by the way, Robert not only has Oliver's name bit attach the jets Ben volant who's a terrific pro-football combs for the Boston Globe in his mock draft. He has Oliver going to the other team that plays it MetLife stadium. The giants. It's speak about guys who are just think. Act like, they're too cute. Dave Gettleman, the general manager of the giants. I I'm sorry to paraphrase something, my friend. Larry Brown used to say about basketball coaches, get them another guy who invented pro football. Okay. And he keeps telling giants fan. I've got a plan. Really prove it. Okay. Yeah. I get it you took saquon Barkley, and and there's this idea parallel with giants. You can get a young quarterback anytime you want one. Well, it doesn't work that way. And so either Gilman's blowing smoke, okay, and he's going to take annual Jones. So he's going to take twain Haskins or he's going to take the kid from Zurich. Or the giants is Robert is a possible that the giants could come out of a second consecutive draft still operating on the quarterback of the past ally. Without having any plan for the quarterback of the future. You know, it's we've always heard the toughest thing in sports. How do you deal with aging superstar always? It comes a point though that you wonder if Haskins is available at six do the giants. I don't know. My gut tells me no, they're not gonna take him. But you know, this goes it sounds like they don't love Haskins unless this is a huge poker-playing bluff on Gettleman, right, which he was very upfront lesser. He was taking. I mean, it was pretty obvious. But you know, but Michaels thinking about this. We are at the crossroads right now of three perennial great franchises in the NFL that are really at the crossover, and that's the giants the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers. Yep. All three would hall of fame quarterback mind, you all three with aging hall of fame quarterbacks. And yet all three giants already on the way down. Pittsburgh disobey fascinating. You're from me for Pittsburgh because there's no Lavelle on Bill. There's no in Tonio Brown Rothlisberger gets an extension this. You know, this is going to be a referendum on the coach and Green Bay. They changed the coach. And let's these are three franchises that perennial. Principally were the backbone of the NFL. The last generation. And now we're seeing the changing of the guard perhaps. Robert you, and I have had this conversation before and I will ask it again and despite up a string of successful regular seasons. Even though many of them haven't been successful as they thought they are going to be at what point does Tomlin start coaching for his job. I think this year is going to be the most important year. I mean, the Pittsburgh's great about the coaching. But we can't knock too much about the coach had three coaches, Chuck knoll and cower and Mike Tomlin. It's it's it's extraordinarily. I think I think the jets at three coaches since the Trump administration. The giants for that matter. Now, actually, I think they pretty much avenue three coaches the count Coughlin and the other guy now this the so Pittsburgh is. Phenomenal franchise and has been since late since late sixties, but those three in Green Bay too. I'm curious to see those those three because for the first time here hard times, the giant all of a sudden, you're a model franchise until you're not. That's okay. And now the giants, and I know John Maher since we were in college together. Okay. There foundering around like every other mediocre organization. And so all of that giant magic the are of those two Super Bowls under Tom coffin. That's gone. They thought they were hiring. Another Ernie Coursey do when they hire Gettleman. Well, no, there's only one Ernie Coursey. And there's only one guy who had the balls to make the trading may on draft to get ally that time, but the what you're talking about. The giants are in the same boat. Yes now. Now, let's take the other side of the coin here. I'm looking at the draft order, and I'm saying to myself it was the last time the New England Patriots drifted higher than twenty fifth. And yet and yet, you know, every and usually they trade down try down. And I'm saying so the greatness of organization and coach and quarterback expecting. That's what it is in the NFL quarterback. And coach the is just it's just shy. And being a really crappy division helps to. It's always like you got a buy. It's like UCLA used to have in the old NC double A days on the would they basically had a by going into the first routes the but. But it still to to sustain the excellence and pure excellence for that long under a system that really is trying to parody as much as they possibly can is truly remarkable robber. They are the model franchise for all times. Okay. And basically, it is is the force. And despite what has happened lately. And I'm not I'm not shoving it to the side or diminishing. What happened to Robert Kraft? Okay. He's he has been as great and owner for for this particular coach is there is an improper Paul history. Okay. He has he has been a great owner. But this is all about the force vision personnel ever. Whatever other words, you wanna put in their Bill Belichick. Okay. He's the guy. He's the people. Come and go front office guys. Come and go, and yes, he's had Tom Brady. And it's been a partnership like Walsh, Montana, and San I get this. Okay. But nothing like this. Is ever going to happen again in proficient, a professional football, nothing like it will ever happen? And you just touched on the same thing. It's it's not like they're debating every year, whether whether they should take Baker Mayfield I pick or Kyla Murray the next year. I will push back only on when you say about a Bella chick. No question, the greatest, but it does really help. When you've got arguably, arguably, the greatest player at the most important position professional sports for this period. Get some props for C. You know, he yes Brady never gets on the field of it's not for Bill Belichick. That's that's true. But he's got a kick out of say, well, they were so smart that they got him in the six round. And Bella check always says, well, how smart where we pass on the first five round. Right. That's always the great line. But they are truly remarkable is a remarkable one more thing. All right, one more thing. And then, you know. All questions will be answered the next year. All right. Do you think the cardinals are gonna take color? Yes. Okay. Now, the other the other thing that's interesting to me about this jabbing you already reference Bosa in Oliver if you look at some of these mock drafts many of them. If he does go won a skill position player doesn't go until ten or eleven or twelve it's all lineman or defensive guys. I mean, it's there's a lot of beef in this draft. Okay. And and so many ways as you know, sometimes that's a much. Sure thing that going for a quarterback or wide receiver and like again, I reference bend bowling because he he's an exports reporters guy, and I like his work a lot on his mock draft after Kyle Murray. The next skill position guy who goes is. He has Dwayne Haskins going to the Broncos at number ten in John Elway's, endless quest to find somebody to take his team back to the promised land. And I if I was gambling man betting man, which I'm not. But I would bet that that's going to change. I would look every year they say that never. There's four quarterbacks drafted in the first twenty six, and I see no reason I see it least two of will be done. I would I bet that Dobie a quarterback drafted again in the first top ten and maybe two more entered into top fifteen. It just does it happens every year. All right. Mike live again, Robert will with you on our Thursday edition of the sport is podcast moving on now. No one compliment you when their paycheck is correct. But make one mistake, and you risk alienating your entire workforce. Kronos, we make sure your payroll is done, right. The first time from punch to paycheck embedded checklist. Simplified workflows a single source of truth. HR payroll talent and time keeping in one unified system all with proven implementation approach and simplified transparent pricing. Learn more at Kronos dot com slash payroll. Kronos, workforce innovation that works. And before we get. To these nets the LA clippers buzzing around the heads of the world champions. Okay. Attention must be paid to the shot that Damian Lillard made against okay. CB on the night against Paul George to close out that series in what has been and again, Robert I went back and looked at this kid stats. Okay. The only time since he came out of a whiteboard Weaver state, okay? That he's averaged less than twenty points in a season was his rookie. And he was like nineteen and change. Okay. So we shouldn't have needed a coming out party. But there Portland they're out there. He is so much of his own magic goes late at night. Okay. But all of a sudden there he is thirty seven feet from the basket with a bigger man guarding him and you looking at the clock and you're saying. Three to any puts it up, and it goes in and not only does it go in and not only does it win the series. And I know he made a start like this years ago against Houston. It gets him to comedy points. Robert fifty five oh, remarkable remarkable of the way, we talk about your drafts. What's bigger crapshoot? The in the NBA draft you have to pick I such a pick. And sometimes even that but getting back to the topic on hand remarkable shot game was tied. Let's not. If if the game had not been tied and they were down. I wonder if you take that same shop, probably not they probably push it down a little bit further. But because I knew it worst. They were going to overtime. It's still remarkable. And he's remarkable. And it's good to see other stars baseball needs stores. Like all sports teams need stars you need an identity. Let me put it that way teams identities and the kid in the back with CJ McCollum. He ain't baddie. No. And I'm really looking forward to this. Actually, this next round is much and kudos kudos to the clippers out here to two games up against Golden State on their court. It's crazy and and kudos to them. And I really still unsure you do believe also that Golden State will probably win the series but kudos to them. And what's really exciting. I think is the next round. I'm looking forward to a lot. Because now you sing probably probably Houston's going to play Golden State prob. Really? I mean, San Antonio may have something to say about that. I did Denver still pretty good team though. But and Portland Denver. It's almost like the outlier there. But I I guess I took it for Houston, Houston, Golden State. By the way in that case. There is nobody in basketball. There's nobody sport. I don't think who will have more pressure on them than James harden. Chris Paul who've come up short, Evan heart and more hardened the Paul, yes. Because the force of his game this, right? And also the MVP awards pull. He's he's thirty four years old. And he's, you know, and when he did have his great moment, you know, he got hurt again against the worst, by the way before before we get to what's about to happen in the NBA one more thing on our guy, Damian Lillard. Okay. He was the sixth pick. Yes. The draft. Shoot twelve. Here's the guys who went ahead of infant, Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd, Gilchrist. Oh, yeah. Bradley Beal, sure. Dion waiters. Why not Thomas Robinson? Okay. And then Lillard and then after him Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross under dumb it. Drove it. So so it's guys fall guys do fall. And also, you know, what else to tell you? How great you have to be to play in the NBA. Yeah. You could be the you're looking at the best college players the best foreign players the best. And they still can't crack these. Guys. How good how really great, you know, you really have to be just like the old line about New York. Even if you're one of the million there six others, the how great these athletes are how good you have to be at. And this is it was he's gone up against what Russell Westbrook and Paul George and has this kind of series. Okay. Let's talk about the warriors again. I can see how they didn't think that they had to bring their a game against the clippers. Okay. Then they blew a thirty one point lead at home. Yeah. Okay. And in a in a series season when there was some horrific home losses for the warriors. You said, okay. They've now gotten their wakeup call except with a chance to close out the series at home. They get clipped what I did there. They get clipped by the clippers. Again, what is dot close team roaches who just you can't kill them. You know, kudos to them for first of all, you know, being in Los Angeles. They are the step child here. Matter. They could get to the finals, they probably be the stepchild they can probably winning stepchild here. And they're coming off. This is a franchise that historically had to Donald sterling mess ahead of them behind them, and they dealt with all that. And they were a laughing stock, and then they hit the Crispell era where that was going to be there big shot and Blake Griffin was on the team that was going to be there big shot, and there's offered it away, and they were pretty much forgotten about and they are showing such characters. I mean, whatever happens about coming up parties about Lou Williams. It's been very impressive. I have to be impressed with just just the way they'd be proud. If you're a clipper fan you need to be proud of this team. This is a this is about a team that hasn't quit, and they could have quit how many times, Mike. Thirty one at Golden State that you down three games to about this the other day with baba Mitch, and I talked about this that night. Didn't you the warriors acted almost insulted that the rule said that they had to finish? It was like, okay. It's like a softball game. We are ten run rule paint over games over. Why are we we have depending champs? What are we going to have to endure the indignity of actually playing off forty eight minutes tonight? And then you saw what happened? You know? I'm old enough as you are probably remember when the Celtics greats Bill Russell teams every now and then they took a game off on the road. They didn't take them off at home too often. But occasionally took a Gita they put they knew they never ever failed in clutch that you ever ever, and they get the Golden State did lose a series three two one Motari up three to one. I don't expect that to happen. This time. I really don't. But they're showing chinks they are showing chinks. That's that's that's the quite. Here's what Lou Williams said after the game for us. Our focus was to come in extend the series and get another win on their home floor. It's their mistake for looking. Ng ahead. So that's on them. And guess what? He's right. Yes. He's right. And now they gotta keep playing while the rockets are getting ready to play them. Okay. And and it just there's a. Listen, I was out in LA on on Sunday. I watched the clippers warriors game. And what I saw especially when you realize Klay Thompson is the third best player. Okay. Or certainly the third. Best score. Maybe fourth best player. Okay. You see? How talented. They are. You see how deep they are. Okay. Even without DeMarcus cousins. But there have been you, right? There have been warning signs. There have been talked about red flags. There have been red flags throughout the season. And I guess if we're gonna find out in the playoffs where about to find out now if and when they close out the clips true, I'm also reminded, however, some of the great Yankee teams that were sometimes down two games to nothing or three to one. And then they came back to win. So this team is battle-tested ninety eight you remember in ninety eight they one hundred fourteen games during the regular season the Yankees did. And we're down two games to one against the Indians in the playoffs. Right. I think that was the best out of five to back, then I'm not sure. Yes. It was. And so anyway, they they. Yes, it can happen. Now. Let's before we get off this. There is another conference in the NBA boy series that I can't wait. Thanks wave series, black Celtics. I can't wait. Tuck Celtics, great, and I'm really looking for Toronto Philadelphia. I'm really looking because even though the obviously the star the superstars are no walkie Boston. But Toronto Philadelphia is really entertaining. The Sixers Mr. guest as talented don't know at Toronto and also to run they've never shown up before now. So who knows the Indians was that was the my bed that was a seven game. Okay. Got to the sea. We were going again in two thousand nineteen. Okay. Yeah. So. So there is another conference. And I think those games are going to be super entertaining. All right. Let me ask you this about the Sixers I asked this to Ryan the other day as talented, they are and they've got five guys who can not just dropped twenty on you, but twenty-five any single game. But. Do you see them getting a stop with ninety seconds to go to you? Do you see the Sixers in one of those ninety nine ninety seven games that we get many of those anymore in the NBA the playoffs. Do you see them getting that stop? Ooh. They're tough. Don't you agree that they're toughness is a at least a question and till they get themselves at least to the Eastern Conference finals. It's a question for sure because. And price. I Toronto so Simmons you think they've got something to prove. And and they have a star playing at the highest possible level of his game right now in letter. I mean, this is great because you're seeing I mean, look you got the Greek for you got Boston. You got you got Irving you got your start. These are identical being have I trust Brad Stevens. And I trust. I'm just curious to see that how we thought that the east was so much weaker than the west. And it probably still is. But the only the fact is that when it comes down with the end the only one series. They don't have to go through the we have to talk about coaches. It seems like we know all the coaches in the west. Okay. Even doc. Okay. We know very was champion winning coach in the final four in the Eastern Conference. We have Mike boot and holster Nick nurse. I would never gun Brent Brown and compared to them but Stevens is well known as red our back. It is interesting. I think it's I think the next couple of weeks should be very entertaining. Great so far and the clippers just by being this annoying have made have made a first round series. When there wasn't even supposed to be a first round series. It was a tennis match. It was supposed to be like six one retired. You know, they should have won the first game by forty points. And if they had they wouldn't still have to go to LA and play another game against doc and his guys. Now also something else for I think Houston would want. I would think Houston wants Denver series over because they don't want to have to. They got a chance now to catch. They're going to have a lot more days off than because of this game yesterday. Then Golden State would it is long as Denver wins and doesn't go to seven games again because it should San Antonio win should San Antonio win. Then throws everything got then he got San Antonio versus versus Golden State. But if Denver wins and hold serve then you've got your catching Golden State the right time. But way, they gotta do the job when they catch him. But you know, they would have to play more games. They would be catching them at the right? They'd have a Cup of at least four more days three or four days to rest and maybe the courts right for them. And this is by the way, this is where the receding gets it gets interesting. Yes. That that they don't know. You know, they don't know who they're gonna play. That's right. That's right. Exactly. By the way, want to touch base on one thing before we move on. And that was. I'm not the biggest hockey fan in the world. I have to confess I do joy going to the games occasion. But I don't follow it as much, but we all like playoff hockey. There is nothing in sports. Nothing more exciting in sports than in overtime. I watched it like I did too. I did we both watched it. There's nothing more exciting than overtime at a Stanley Cup the capitals, we vertu being there their priest Cup capital nece. I was thinking the same thing. And I forgot forgot I I gotta go. It's one less your horse did because I was thinking myself women can did winless your, otherwise, he's the Clayton Kershaw of of you know, hockey, but he did win. So you have to give chippiness do. But boy and wanna come back and what a comeback in both games, by the way. Let's not forget the San Jose game. Either the Las Vegas San Jose game a great comeback. The are we talking NHL hockey? We're talking about. Plus, I know in San Jose. Say wait is this supposed to be Montreal against Toronto? I'll tell you won't even better. I'm rude for Columbus. I if any is there any city in the country of all these series. Columbus is the one. I'm rooting for the most. I mean, how great would it be for Columbus to be a world champion? I doubt that's merica v. I'd love that talk about an underdog. Well, well, if by the way, the guy on jeopardy you following this guy in jeopardy at all? I know about it. Right. You know about this guy. He doesn't miss. He's a sports gambler. That's what he is. And he's like breaking the records. He's going to blow everybody off. And it's funny because he doesn't miss any Betty and the one thing he Alex trebek's before he said, well, your sports give me give me a tip. And he said Tampa Bay light. Getting back to the NBA playoffs. Okay. And technically, it's not receding, but you have to wait to see which seeded team goes on before we know who's going to play in the second round. But don't we want warriors rockets or or we wanna see it in the in the conference finals? Again, we want it now. Want right now, I want it. Now, I want it now because in the finals, then again, then they can I think it's right now because the momentum let's just keep it going. Let's just keep by the way now get hockey per second. How 'bout how 'bout the islanders being back in play at this time of year? And I can remember back in the day for the new York Daily News. Sometimes baseball season didn't even start until the the islanders had won another Stanley Cup. I covered a lot of those four Stanley Cup winning teams coach by Alber. And all of a sudden bout some back and forth between the old Uniondale, Long Island. And Brooklyn, they become a force to be reckoned with and and we should've known when Lula Morello took over running the team. And then he goes and gets the coach that won the Stanley Cup with the capitals. No, you're right. I don't get interested early. But I sure get interested when a series gets like, yes. And lost the best player over the years. You know, so. So I just think Lula Marilo is one of those great. When you talk about the great, executives and sports of all sports. He's got to be in the list. What he did with the New Jersey Devils? It was I-. I intersected with Lula Morella when he was the coach at providence college. Okay. That's and here he comes into the pros. And that legacy with the devils is quite extraordinary. And now he's trying to build another one with the New York Islanders and glory days situation, where they're trying to get back to other where we were talking about this before Robin. I retired about this before we started moving on. Okay. This is a thirty second commercial. And I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you. 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So they're gonna win at least one game in this three game series against the Yankees. I it's five nothing for the angels. Here's the bottom. Here's the bottom of the Yankees batting last night the bottom of the top. It's thinks anyway. Gartner? Well, Gordon, void have been bad at second. Brett Gardner is in the number three. Then when we get to six it goes like this, Mike, Ford, GO or shelhah, Mike, talk men and Tyler Wade. Okay. And they come back in they win the game six five they have just as Gary Sanchez who is the thirteenth guy on the injured list comes off. Clint Frazier who's been given a chance in it's been their best hitter. Lately, he goes on Boone announced yesterday that Stanton. Not only has the bicep injury. The sent him to the list, but an old shoulder problem. And if you saw judge coming off the video day, he ain't going to be back for while the new modern injury of baseball, the oblique Robert did you even know that there was such thing as the oblique before guys started dropping left and right with them in baseball. Because of the Beatles. Oh, blood deco blood. That's the only reason the and the amazing thing about the Yankees to is. This is just one thing is that they're run differential with this line at that. You just talked and this has been since day one for the most part. I mean, they've had other guys go in and out and Sanchez comes back yesterday. He's the savior coming back, and he takes to golden sombrero strikes off big you leave you big runners on the basis, they're run differential is to second-highest impatient. No, it's it's unbelievable. It's I wrote a column for MLB dot com about them this more. I call them the split squad Yankees. If you saw this batting order, you'd say, oh, yeah. These are the guys who had to make the trip across the state in March to play on the east coast of Florida and they're right there behind the race. And again when you talk about the volume on the injured list, here's the guys who are on it. The guy who was supposed to be there ace Luis Severino del impetus who's the second best reliever Miguel and do har- who is one of the stars of last season Didi gregorius shortstop is still recovering from Tommy John surgery Aaron Hicks who is they just gave a big contract to to be their center fielder on and on and on your judge the Red Sox on the other hand have had one significant injury of note to a guy who is a big player for them last year. That is Nathan of all the okay who's going to have a procedure done on his. They got no excuses for being ten and fifteen, but there's no way on this. Planet that the Yankees should be doing what they're doing. Also surprising to be about Boston. I understand the hangover. And I understand what. But I mean, Mookie Betts been miserable. So far this year. The he has shown signs it'll sign and then they sweep the race. They come home. And yes a day night doubleheader to the right? Also, we talk about run differential the only teams with less run differential than them in. Boston's it minus thirty six our Baltimore and Miami facts it and yet the biggest story in baseball is about a guy who has never had an at bat in the major leagues up till two to four night. And that is your Guerrero. Jim. I mean, he's made the way they've handled this, and you know, we know what the reasons why they've handled it the way they have. Okay. Boy. Oh, boy, it makes you want to watch that game doesn't it? Not only watch that game. We are Mike have you ever seen better young talent and baseball coming up? No, not only coming up, but already there. I mean, all across the map calm watching case. I get to see out here. And you think he's short. He's a little guy. He is not. He is a big guy. He's a big guy who can run east five tools. He's almost like having trout or Kuna at shortstop. I mean, I'm watching this guy. And then you're watching A Cody Bellinger, who's a couple of years, but he's still very young. Who's the best player in baseball right now? Not in Christian yelich, you sing a Kuna. You're seeing these great. Chris paddock this guy on the Baya's with as you into his hurt. But he'll be back rate. Young ten. It's it's it is the most talent rich young talent rich time, and I'm talking about guys under the age of twenty eight twenty we're talking twenty five, and it's there's so much talent that because he was hurt last year. People aren't even talking about Al Tubay. Okay. Who in two thousand grantee he might be the greatest small player with all due respect to my friend. Joe mortgage. Okay. If Al tuba in baseball history Korea, not and let me tell you something, you know, is the president of the fan club. Joe Morgan Joe Morgan with him and you're right. It's it's an extraordinary time. And I was saying this day, Robert, we're not even out of April yet, and it has been a such an entertaining and compelling first month of the of the season the razor up the twins are up again Seattle Seattle Seattle hits home runs. They seem to hit all the home runs that yellow Bellinger aren't hitting. Okay. And and you've got the drama in Boston. You've got the mash unit with the New York Yankees. The Mets are fun to watch again. Oh my God. Did you see what happened last night you talking about hostile thought? Tasking just by the way, he's rounding second right now. It's it's the longest trip around the basis since Gibson's home run. Okay. The World Series. And and for people who don't know what happened the night before he got buzzed in a blowout game in the night thing, and we nearly had a brawl and everybody was up. If I don't know why the same pitcher who was in the game last night. I'm not really quite sure Hoskins hits a home run. And they. They timed his trip around the bases at thirty four seconds might Mike. I've had TV series at having. Round the base. Yeah. And so the Mets and the Phillies don't like each other again but Bryce Harper had some flashes. But all of a sudden he's kinda have in the season that he had for the nationals a year ago, and the Mets are fun to watch Kono's made a big difference. Conforto terrific Pedo Alonzo terrific can really play. They a hitting machine that nobody knows about Jeff Mckee horrific. And so the Mets were supposed to be able to pitch not head. Actually, they've hit better than the pitch so far. And so it's been such a fascinating season. But the headline. Yes, you're right continues to be the the amazing amount of young talent. We as long as talent like this keeps coming in. And as long as the teases and Vlad juniors. Keep coming along. We can live with three hour baseball games. Which by the way, the way three hour. Baseball games are shorter than the average NFL or no. Too much. I'm totally done. Louise sat on this. I am totally in favor. I think the thing that's going to move down which they've talked about is bringing a relief pitcher has to face more than one battery. It stops to gain cold baseball games, generally move, the first five innings I five or six and then at chip stuff now. No way anybody says that the strategy I go I could trade my dog that if a lefty comes in you, go get the left-handed pitcher if a righty comes in you bit the right here. No, the strategy comes in if a these up, but he's got a righty right after him to you bring the lefty in that. I don't understand that at all. And by the way, these I'm the same way with the a one eighty I don't wanna watch the pitcher hit anymore. I just don't I mean that's trying to stop that from going in the National League is going to be like. You know, what Ryan calls the matchup thing? He's always called. It creeping LaRussa is Tony started it. I love Tony. Okay. And Tony is one of those baseball Geeta. He started. He is MRs Leary's cow is Bob back on Monday. I hope so. Yes, he is good. Yeah. I missed my I gotta find out one story. How you guys I met I'm dying to hear that story. I was writing for the heights. We're both Boston College guys. Bob was there about five years ahead of me. And I was writing for the heights, and I was also writing for the Boston Phoenix while I was in college, which was the village voice of Boston. And Ryan just became aware of me somehow, and he would actually take me we go to Celtics games. Take me out for beer, and he really there were two mentors. At the Boston Globe. Sounds like inside baseball. Okay. Our show is inside the late. Great, bud. Collins took an interest to me and Bob Ryan became my big, brother. My big journalism, brother. When I was in college, and it is a friendship that has stood the test of time what I always said to him and all the years of the sports reporters, I said, you know, Kornheiser pulled wilbon in the draft. You pulled me that's just the way things shook out, and the fact that we're still friends and still doing this. When when I got inducted into the sports media hall of fame, Mr Ryan was my presenter. So a lot of stuff that came full circle that was already a legend when you following Boston College in Boston when you first start to once he Robert once he got to the Celtics. Nobody had written game stories like he did. Nobody. He just hit the ground running. Even those verse love he will tell you. I love is baseball. Bob. Ryan scores has scorebook. He every gay. He has season tickets to the Red Sox. He scores every baseball game. He attends, and you know, what his white whale is. Right. He has never seen a no hitter in person. I knew. I knew I wasn't covering the team on that Sunday night when Carl Everett with two outs in the ninth broke up your seen as perfect game. Ryan was that close. So anyway, anyway, as you know, as you know, that we are always. So I would talk sports with you anywhere any bar, and he podcast and he show any time. It is time for our parting shots, and I will defer to Mr.. Hey, Greenberg about his greatest sluggers baseball has ever known said that Arpey is was the most important Staten baseball. After all the more runs on the scoreboard to better chance. The team has to win with four more RBI's Albert pools will pass Lou Gehrig and Barry Bonds and become fourth on the list of all time RBI leaders trailing only Aaron Ruth and a-rod as he approaches two thousand RBI's to give you an idea of how remarkable this number is the closest reactive players to him are Miguel Cabrera Robinson, no Edwin Encarnacion, and they are respectively. Three hundred fifty five seven hundred fifty and one thousand RBI's behind him Roger Clemens seven time Cy Young award winner. Not a bad source told me personally that Albert was the best right handed hitter. He'd ever faced George will about as knowledgeable baseball fan as I know has Albert as the all time first basement on his all time lifetime team because he played on the west coast. He's played for past eight years. And the fact that his team hasn't made the playoff the. Common wisdom, mostly because of saber Matric is that our pulses contract has been an abject failure point of fact, angels owner already Marino was able to renegotiate his Fox Sports cable deal the day he signed our which more than paid for Albert's contract. True because of injuries Albert hasn't been the same player. He was but one of their late thirties. Neither was Mickey Mantle Willie Mays. Oscar Robertson, even Mohammed Ali Silverman. Mateus have been downplaying pool since he left Saint Louis, but let's compare pools statistics to that of sabermetrics, darling. Joey Votto over the past eight years in those eight years vita was hit a hundred and fifty two home runs pools. One hundred eighty eight fato has five hundred RBI's Albert has six hundred sixty four. Oh, and by the way, unlike war, which is a theory RBI's are fact they actually count on the scoreboard in the words of Arthur Miller, by way of Mike Luca, Bob Ryan attention must be paid. It always comes back to a saying, my dear friend and one of Robert's heroes. The great William Gaumont once wrote about Hollywood, nobody knows anything Bill said an adventures in the screen trade, and what he meant was that George Lucas a guy who invented the Star Wars franchise also made Howard the duck. Somebody might be a Star Wars franchise player in tonight's NFL draft and somebody drafted high. And I mean, really high is going to turn out to be Howard the duck just a quarterback or linebacker or lineman or wide receiver. It's how jamarcus Russell twelve years ago. Went number one overall the way he did. And Brady is Robert mentioned went six round the way. He did. It's why Ryan leaf can get drafted right behind Peyton Manning and be a legendary bust and why Russell Wilson who just got paid and got rich can go in the third round. Nobody knows anything. It turned out to be as famous align for Mr. Goldman as. Follow the money in his screenplay for all the president's men or who are those guys in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid we start to find out who does know something tonight as always thank you for spending part of your day. Listen, the sports reporters podcast. It's the continuation of what we did on Sunday mornings ESPN for twenty eight years. We generally do it Monday and Thursday, sometimes we'll adjust three follow us on social media. 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5/7/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

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5/7/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

"I'm john mitchell. Welcome to fate a fact season. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Please listen and follow fate of fact a presentation of shining city audio jon. Truman c thirteen original studio available. Now for free on odyssey apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Jets rookies in town. Oh yeah that's right. Zach wilson send those parents. Yeah i saw. That was great. Yeah hopefully he gets in there and he heard talking about the offense a little bit so at byu even though he spent most of the time and the shock on it's still was the west coast concept offenses offense that he was running. There be why you. And maybe that's why he feels like he's such a perfect fit for what michael floor is going to do here because it is. It's all the west coast concepts. It's the wording is probably very similar. And there's probably one of the reasons why he was able to retain as much as he was when they were doing zoom interviews with them. Yeah and i think that after hearing joe douglas on with us and i do trust joe. Douglas i do. He's not going to pick. Zack wilson just because he needed a quarterback did fall in love with the guy and he fell over the guy not just on ability which we've seen but also the fact that he seems mature he seems smarter picks everything up and he's he's a hetty football player as well so remember for him what he is going to now be exposed to is a huge playbook. That's going to have a million plays in it. As a matter of fact my old playbook is sitting on my desk. If you'd like to three to make you believe so. He's got to go through this. He's gotta learn all the verbiage of his own playbook i so he can call a play no the personnel groupings. That are on the field. Understand the blocking schemes. Who's the hot receiver if they bringing too many on defense all the different defensive fronts that he's gotta learn and he's also got a learn how to communicate with the coaches in very short sound bite so he is understanding of all the stuff that he has. The process before the balls ever snapped. And i always talk about this with every quarterback. That's why i hate. What happened to daniel jones. And what happened to sam darnold. They had to go through to offense of systems you their first two years and it confuses things and it makes it very difficult for guy. Just go on the field and play with a clear head. So when tom brady are arron rogers or drew. Brees or eighty the great quarterbacks patrick mahomes or out on the field. They're not thinking a lot you know. They're out there playing natural football because they they know what they're talking about. They've seen everything from a defensive perspective and they're able to give tips to their teammates about what they expect while the game is going on in very high stressful anxiety. Ridden situations so. That's the thing that young quarterbacks don't ever really understand until they go through it. So today is the beginning of that process for one. Zack wilson. And there's not going to be any sort of question about whether this guy's going to start or not. I mean it would have to be some sort of catastrophe that goes on in training camp or in the preseason and then all of a sudden you've got some sort of issue but that's not going to happen. I mean he's if he's healthy he's going to start. That's what happens with these younger guys. I mean you saw joe burrow. Start right away. justin. Herbert wasn't going to but then had to and then he showed how he was ready. Right off the bat. After the tyrod taylor situation but zac wilson is going to start just like trevor lawrence is going to start get it going. Figure it out. Throw into the fire and and hopefully you. Don't ruin the guy right exactly. And it's gonna be up to michael floor into rob calabrese and greg knapp. All these coaches over there at the jets. At least get this kid off to a good start and start building a confidence immediately. Yeah because it's easy to fall back into. I'm seeing goes as we heard. Sam darnold say publicly which is true for every quarterback. You know such as true for sam. It's just that we heard. Sam actually say it which was unfortunate but they they. It's the school of hard knocks. The good news is that joe douglas's put players around him now. It that the geo there for a sec. I so so there is my playbook from the bengals when i first got there Man you could smell the winning. Yeah okay right all right so you could see how many pages there are. How many tabs are now kids. Don't get playbook anymore. They get ipads sure so what they have to hand back in when they get cut in your ipad son back in the day was bring your bring your playbook son so you got special pass. Nickel pass out of pocket. Pass screens play action. Pass a run action. Pass ninety strong flow series. Yes eighty split flow series right so those are all the passing place now. That's just part of the playbook. That jeff orange seventy week flow series open up to one of the pages and call play play. Call there okay. Oh it's upside down out is strange. Rich kotite playbook. I thought you'd going from your going from back to front but this is the way the book was see. Okay tight maybe. I have it upside down short ninety x calibre strong right set play strong right short ninety x. What's the personnel group. Where the hell am i supposed to say. It's horrible short ninety x scalp. Okay go go to another one. Not are you a hard time so no. You're an offense alignment sure and eighty. Hp flat halfback says you know but Halfback flat your like. You'll have to know that somebody will have to tell you that audible sure eighty eighty one pancake right pancake about that all right. Here's a short sixty x option. That's easy but the thing about it is the short sixty x option tells x what to do. That means everybody else. Who's running a route along with the x receiver has the know their corresponding route at noon. The you as a quarterback half to know the corresponding routes that are going along with that play call fake thirty six counter buck naked left pro right pro right fake six count buck naked left the f. Pretty much pretty much yeah. Progression halfback slammed flat to get over. There yeah naked. Y naked over winding naked over naked in his house with those. Why why making over there right guy. Qb run go go alert exit z. That's all just one play as this is a lot. Yeah then you had to go into the defensive fronts and you get low defensive coverages and you know is it a nickel coverages dime coverage is a cover to cover. Forty four quarters coverage is half field coverage. I mean it's my kufa. Mike number nine is the mike with what spread right and sixty twin option. Yogi there you go onto. That could do this okay. Art that hard wave. No kidding so when you still get on guys who have wristband pisses me off. But i mean think about all. This stuff never never had a respond. But i mean aren't their offense is more complex and i don't think i don't think it's going to have been either. I could just tell. But i mean isn't he made his rookie year. He may but they'll try to make it a little bit easier for him and you have to remember that playbook came along. We did not have the coach to quarterback communication so my coach sam wyche bruce causative the offense coordinator. I had a. I had the basically memorize entire book. Your of Higher intelligence than your average football player. I would say the quarterback. You've done this for a long time. You were memory. Retention was pretty good You know there's some. There's some guys out there you know. I do but i do think that. Zack wilson has that part of it down. I think he will. You know he will eat this up. He'll he'll be a real challenge for him kirk cousins. Not as smart as you. Yeah okay. he's not. He's not you know if they're starting in the nfl. And i know they that. He's a starter for your team. Yeah he you have to be smart you have. There's no way because you will. You'll either get yourself killed or the other players in the team will not respect you as a player. I'll say dangled joneses so every every every guy that is in the. Nfl playing quarterback has got to be smart enough to handle this. I don't blame a guy forever to look down at a wristband. It's a lot of stuff though your stuff man. That's what i say. No you are in that book. You know every single aspect of that book and when you step in the huddle if you're in there was like a rookie so when i was playing with corey dillon. Yeah was my last year. So i had a thirteen year Head start on him. We get there. I would call a play. That would require him to be in pass protection and i would always remind him who he was blocking so i did not get killed same but it know what everybody's doing but i would do it in a way. That's not condescending. I would say hey. Corey fifty six to fifty three. If they don't come in ain't gonna run wide pattern you know but just make sure that they're that they're not coming. Because sometimes one a rookie. Running back is back there. One of these smart linebackers may turn their shoulders like they're running back in the coverage and then come and if a rookie running back is back there at. He's supposed to be blocking that guy he sees him turning he runs he takes off. Dwi right sixty hp double wing double wing fliegelman. What are you telling me here because of confused. Somebody's cold the hotline. Yes kipling the former. Nfl defensive back to over weird signal call. He had when he was with washington plane. You don't know skipping known personally now. A skit boomer remember. I'm the guy klecko as the swirly. Hi how are you buddy. I'm good and you got me cut. I don't know why. I listen to you. But i'm still a fan. Why appreciate dad skip. So what are you going to tell us about on defense. So then i get on the defensive signal caller ricky and his his conference so he was jack free safety with jill and he would grabbed his crotch. Both hands grabs breast with both hands and they make a lightning sign. Jacket joe cross cross. Blitz jack and jill thunder. You got favor call ever man. I tell you guys really neanderthal man. No it's great visual. I'm sure appreciate that. Skip any when you hear some of these play calls and stuff like a. You haven't flashbacks i. I was a quarterback at all. Miss i remember my boom. I remember my whole playbook you can stick around a blitz on me and i'll check red hot red hot one eighty eight and i'm an lsu. And i'm getting killed by leonard marshall. I have nightmares of of of the valley. So yeah they'd never goes out of your brain. It's weird not that brains in that complex. Not that we're not that complex but to think about it is is this either saved our leisa or got us killed. I didn't pleaded no. We're doing everybody else that we're a plane with new it hundred percent hundred and you did it a lot better than most so That's off the calling him. Brother take care. Thanks guys have a great day you too. Yeah i mean that's sound like a guy had a wristband thing about the no huddle offense that we ran. All of that stuff had to be transferred into codewords. Oh jeez so we had to be able to. I couldn't say at the line of scrimmage a fake thirty-six buck naked left. I couldn't say that. At the last. Scrimmage i had to have a complete different code word for that and then a dummy code word after that. But why don't you just use those code words in the huddle men. Because that's going to be easy to what you could. You absolutely could do that. But some of the guys didn't remember the code so you'd have to communicate with them on the field to remind them what they were doing. Nights tremendous a peek inside the huddle a peek inside with. But that's the that's the now is genesis of were. A young quarterback starts so they'll give him the basics when he first gets here. I'm sure just the personnel groupings and just the basic formations and try to get him out there to run play after. Play off to play to get used a here. it even starts with this. This is how we huddle. Not every team huddles the same way. Sure this we start with the huddle. This is how we huddled. This is how we communicate. This is how we substitute this is. These are all these different things that are going on that. All the quarterbacks have got alarm. When i come into the league. I'm jon meacham. Welcome to fate of fact season one. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Please listen and follow fate of fact a presentation of shopping city audio john truman. C thirteen original studio available. Now for free on odyssey apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm jon meacham. The host of kane's thirteen's new podcast. Fate of fact on how america and its political parties got to where we are today available now on odyssey apple podcasts. And wherever you get your podcasts. The morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomerang zero listening to podcasts. Was so it on on what you just want to get. The sense of. What's going on out there in the nfl. And all that other stuff and again you know. Aaron rodgers is a very big topic. We kinda just touch on it. We've talked about green bay and all this other stuff. We have talked about it a lot. But yes i yesterday. I listening to an ex. Gm talking about the green bay packers handling of aaron rodgers and how they needed to discuss with him personnel moves and things of that nature now into why this guy's an next jams dope because you don't discuss anything when you are joe. Douglas your rob sala dave gettleman your joe judge that your job is to put the bait the football team together. You don't discuss your decisions with other players on the team to give a guy heads up that maybe you're drafting a guy at his position or something i can. I can understand that. But you're not sending down with russell. Wilson seattle discussing drafts. But he wants no he said or kyle murray our owner. Who basically said yeah. I influence. no you don't you just go out and play. We're going to pay a thirty million dollars a year. Go out and play and just don't worry about it. So i'm listening to this. Gm talk about how the green bay packers have screwed this whole thing up. I'm like no wonder why you're not in the business anymore next. Gm and then the other guy basically says some other talk show host or whatever just burns mailing oh Public sympathy is on the side of aaron rodgers. You ask green bay packer. Fans green bay packer. Fans booed a aaron rodgers commercial at. A milwaukee brewers came. Can you tell me about green bay packer. Fans having sympathy for aaron rodgers and turning their back on the green bay packers no way not even know man who is larger than the team is no idiot points of view and how the media can contrive a story and make it up and just say like wow the green bay packers are ruin this whole thing my ass me and my answers. Well throw my ass into that mix as well. Well don't you. Would you not agree with me. That i would say that. If you are a green bay packer fan. I have about five of them in my life. I know you do. They are all on the side of the green bay packers and they think that this manufactured drama from aaron rodgers is coming from him. You heard me after the draft. Torch the guy the whole the whole deal and we were with a first Kill him when guys like daniel jeremiah. During the draft. Day when the atlanta falcons took kyle pits and he goes penny for aaron rodgers thoughts. Shut up like all. The falcons are really pushing all their chips in a table for matt ryan one more run. The packers had only done that. Stop teams a good team. There a one c last year he was the. Mvp for christ's sakes. I got enough with this him. Bitching and moaning. So i'm with you. I am with you and the whole sympathy with aaron rodgers. My ass off my ass of my ass cherry. No i was me. Actually yes all right so we've got Ceelo back with us and he's got an update. What's happened just to add on. Tell the former packers players that are chiming in trying to tell you. They know what's going on. Whether it's brett farve or james jones or john kuhn on with zach gill yesterday saying that rogers's conflicted as close the door. It's like everyone's gotta take and they act as if they've spoken to him and they know what's going on but some say he's coming back some say he's not i mean. Can we make up our minds here and nobody has any idea. What's go rhino pens. But now all of a sudden. Espn is reporting. That the packers are looking for other quarterbacks to add well they've only got one quarterback in their roster it's jordan love and that the reason why they got and a quarterback so it'd be traded him the denver or you traded him to las vegas. Who would have to involve one of those young quarterbacks coming back right. Well i don't maybe but you gotta remember they trade away. Aaron rodgers jordan love is going to be the starter. Yeah but you still need a backup. Do but it's not like derek carr is gonna come back and deal storm. Wouldn't think mariota. Maybe maybe i just get him out of the division wherever he goes into division. Okay brought to you by town. Fair tire nobis town fair tire. Nobody did have the mavericks beating the nets and dallas last night. One thirteen one. Oh nine that's four straight losses for brooklyn now falling behind the sixers in the race for the one seed in the east further. Kevin durant one of ten from the field in the second half and while these laws has may not be a huge deal on the big picture still not enjoyable stretch tommy two years and no matter who is against i mean filling the same way about losing since i was eight years old so startling season high forty five points from kyrie irving but a loss is a loss net struggling to find their chemistry with all the changes to the starting lineup. The season been an adjustment for us to learn one another on the fly learning games slot. Thirty five games different lineups. You're learning on the fly. He's contributed to that along the way. So here's steve nash. On what's ahead as they head off into the play. What is it that can get us over the hump and the first thing is for us to continue stay strong mentally each other up to realize we got a lot of words. Do we keep work. And we don't have to take out of our sales. Were improving get back. And there is some optimism on the horizon surrounding james harden. He spoke before the game or some time yesterday confident that he'll return from his injury before the playoffs does hope to get a couple of games between now and then they've only got five left in the regular season and their road trip continues to be in denver tomorrow night to take on the nuggets. You got the knicks and the sons from phoenix late tonight. Ten o'clock start game four of a six game trip. The knicks manual quickly and alec burks are both listed as doubtful for tonight's game. Pacers beat the hawks. One thirty three one twenty-six the knicks still a game up on atlanta two in the loss column for the four seat in the east and he had the clippers over the lakers at staples center one eighteen ninety. Four times for the lakers. Right now. lebron's out again. Anthony davis left last night with back spasms he played only nine minutes. They have lost seven out of nine now even with trailblazers. Those teams will play tonight in portland. Obviously with a lot on the line. Thursday matinees for the baseball locals astros afforded the three game. Sweep at the hands of the yankees. The two two. Hi dr to deep center. Back goes hex on the track near the wall and she is gone in monument park second home. Run of the game for alvarez. And the yankee lead is now three to and of course jon fans that was the extent of the damage done against garrett cole. He left after seven had the lead but chad green then served up three runs. Shot to jose altuve in the eighth. Justin wilson allowed a two run blast to martine maldonado. In the ninth yanks. Lose the game seven to four. Here's aaron boone. On youtube as decisive blow together pretty good at bad and went up out of his own there on three two and and put a charge into one. You know sometimes you tip your cap. Ninety six mile. An hour fastball. In he got on top of even. When cole was in there he was far from being on cruise control against his former. T's tough particularly. Pats felt like play chess out there for a couple of our geo showa leftist game at the eighth after making a diving. Stop at thirty. He was off for an mri on his knee. Giancarlo stanton's ninth homer. Clint frazier went deep as well. Now the yanks had the nationals coming in for a weekend series. Jamison patrick corbin. The starters for game one. We'll have coverage on the fan beginning at six twenty five eleven walks for the mets yesterday. Three of them forced in. Ron's we heard some of this last hour keith. Hernandez had seen enough to high ball. Walk festival for the new york. Mets three runs today. All bases loaded walks and they lead three one and liked that he got the. Oh my god. In gary call there. As they added to their lead they tacked on another for a four one victory. They split the four game series in saint louis. Eleven walks eleven. Strikeout seventeen men left on base but a win is a win and that's Partially thanks to the cardinals. Pitching or lack thereof than the right arm of taiwan walker seven innings of one hit one. Run ball eight ks francisco. Endure even got a ninth inning. Hit the snap. His old for twenty-six slide. Someone asked him how it feels to be slumping fun. Not exactly a hard hitting question. I'm i'm sure what else you'd expect him to say but he did get the hit. Carlos carrasco moved to the sixty day. I els he's out until at least may twenty eighth luis rojo says. It's not a setback though reassess at the time to to make sure that when he comes to us there's there's not that way but still testing the answering not only from a standpoint for everything that he's going to be doing in the national league game and that's what we went with. As for jacob degrom played catch at nine thousand feet. He's going to do that again today. Then perhaps thorough boltzmann possibly return sunday. Mets are back at city field for three games with the diamondbacks. David peterson opposed by tonight at seven. Ten elsewhere yeah. The angels designate albert pools for assignments. So he will be headed off for released by the end of the week. Shohei ohtani homered again. Last night. He's tenth but la gave up seven in the eighth loss to the raise. Eight to three as tampa bay game series. It's kind of a sad way for album pool halls to go out. Yeah yeah we. There's no other choice at this point. I i so done okay. He is so done. I mean i'm surprised. Key stadium big stick. Now there's no more big stick. They're putting him. I get the eighth eighth hole in the in the order the yankees and he basically should go up there with one of those wacky noodles that you put in a pool because he's got no shot no shot a wacky noodle. I mean don't even go back go there with like a rolled up newspaper. Just read about something while you're standing there because you gotta know shot of getting ahead of you over to pulled today should bring some wacky noodles. Yeah for sure. Yeah you know what. I got the team. Specific wacky noodles do vikings wacky noodles. Steelers wacky noodle. I do yeah. Why not come on. But it's party time. You have a pool their ceelo. No i do not know. I thought you did that. Big ass back yard. You're you're gonna Back yard but we have not graduated to having a pool yet. Although my five year old yesterday was telling me he wants one. Of course he said Well then you'll see a lot less a mommy and daddy if you wanna if you wanna pool because we're gonna have to work a lot more than we do already had an above ground pool. What's wrong with that. Nothing wrong with it wrong with it. Once you get one j. above ground pool yeah perfect. Now we're we're working. On those ovals world an oval above ground pool a redwood deck around that so you you want me to tack up a sheet and put an oval above ground pool in my new home. And make sure you have. Pvc fence around. That's a loss fencing. Around right okay. I'll make sure they got a cool defensing. Yes yeah get that above ground pool. Make kids happy ceelo. Why do you want. Your kids said go trampoline next. That's my next. My youngest is a little older. We'll go trampling big old trampoline. Yeah it's good good to build athleticism and explosiveness in the lower half right so what you do what you boys well you know. It's good exercise. Jump around half tournament. Some athletes whipped into shape. You know what i mean. Yeah sackler devils. Topped the islanders two to one. The aisles are struggling against all teams. Not named the rangers right now and they'll turn around face new jersey again tomorrow night ranger shut up by the bruins in boston for nothing. We know their seasons basically over. They've got guys out of the lineup. Pavel buchnevich got suspended game and chris. Jury is going to oversee the rest of this rebuild. Here as they head into. What will be an important offseason. He is officially the new president and gm. Or at least maybe the mouthpiece for glenn say there who's back in the mix he was on zoom call yesterday showing off the goatee and talking about things so jim dolan referred to him as the godfather of the rangers so he will lean on him as well moving forward all his titles alternate governor and adviser and all this good stuff so a lot of change as we know in ranger lan. This week we started with the nfl. You guys were talking aaron rodgers. You've got this situation again. Brewing between the league and the players association centering around the off season workouts so the players union yesterday sent a memo to its membership saying quoted was gutless to use a player's serious injury. The talking about Broncos tax on james who suffered serious injury working out. I guess earlier this week or last week as a scare tactic to get you to come running back to these workouts. This memo is another sign of what they think of you and also affirms that they simply want to control you year round in any in every that they have an odyssey email. You're talking about her. I saw there's something about the american government all the nfl. Yes the nfl. So all of this as a lot of teams are getting set for rookie camp. The jets included. Their rookies will be on the field today in florence park. So you get your first Footage of zack. Wilson the helmet on and the you know the jersey and the shorts minus the shoulder pads throw into the rookies kickoff rookie camp today in jersey morning show with boomer esiason and greg nadi boomer and geo so what do you think about an above ground pool. Their ceelo interested in that If i'm being honest with probably hold out for the in grounds maybe somewhere down the road. Why don't you pull for this summer. I though you'd want one for the summer where you're thinking about getting you one. Oh yeah you're gonna put that together for this summer. Yeah ground pool. They can put up in like a day they could probably have it there for by the time you get home from work ever since you know could be that fast. She has been searching the the website and he found a place called central jersey. Pools dot com ca. Yes so they are the premier store covering monmouth middlesex mercer and ocean counties. Yup i'm in mammoth all right and says our above ground swimming. Pools for new jersey homeowners are a cut above the. Oh i see what they did there. They were cut above haircut above. They've been the trusted name and above ground swimming pools in new jersey for the last sixty four years. I can actually text with somebody there right now. Hi there have a question text here. Yeah they got somebody standing by. What should i say. We'll say how much to get this little oppressed. Give him a name phone number. I want to go down that road. Old let's see if we can get there Their stores open right now. Probably non now. I would say nine at the earliest i mean. They got some nice polls here. Now they've got a nice above ground. Oval poll with the staircase. I like it now. What was the central jersey. Wasn't even the place. Central jersey pools dot com pools dot com. Yes yes pools ram. They do have in ground pool. Sure they do. Yeah but this to me seems like this could be perfect for you. Yeah we'll get it in there in the next week is the rest of the family short like you yes. I'm the tallest in the house. We should get a three footer. Let's get a little three. I've got two boys. That just turned five all right like ducks as a- but so you're telling me that you don't want the above ground pool because you wanna do the in ground pulled some point. That was screw this up. You know what the other thing is. Our backyard is severely sloped so we feel like the in ground at some point gonna to be built into that slow properly. We don't have a ton of flat. Space regis throw the above ground right on a flat spot back. No no deck deck. I'm looking at this over one here. It's a put it some stones around it. Yeah we'll lighting in a big staircase. Nice go looks good. He knows got a real nice above ground pool. Your boy sean. Marash his house hang out. West babylon yeah. He does yes. Yeah he's got the pvc bar backyard. Percent they play movies. Projector movies was there for the projector movie up experienced and so on the pvc fence. He got a fly pbc fence or does he have some lines. Senate well was there. I can't say that. I took exact notice the design of his fence. I know there was a freehold to west babylon. Let me tell you. Boomer we spend more time commuting back and forth than we did at the house also. It was a big undertaking. Getting getting out there on a saturday afternoon or whatever saturday sunday. Whatever won't feel bad. Because i actually live pretty close to marash and he's invited me four five times these things and i just i haven't showed up now. I feel terrible. I think he stopped. He stopped inviting me. Land abiding what things. These got all sorts of parties and gatherings us. There's a block party. Usually some time in the summer that he his parents have been doing that for yeah. I've been to that at his parents house. He seems kinda guy that would play charts cornell set out there. You know the the the the charts. Yeah the things that you throw in the air that come down missiles. Yeah but when you sir circle we have those. Things got outlaw. Because people were getting them stuck in their legs. I'm sure he has. He has one hundred percent he has. He's like the south shore. Long island mascot sean marash. Every he hits every one of the stereotypes. Oh yeah right on the nuts. They did a nice job hosts in that day though we enjoyed ourselves. We'll give him that he's got like a little tiki bar in the backyard. Yeah it's a nice setup. It's got the tv's couple of tv setup outside. I told him to call the central jersey pools. And so what happened. You got somebody on the phone over there. And they said the nobody's available what the hell's going on. Wfan talking about their above ground. Pools can't get somebody the phone they don't tell yeah. What didn't you get somebody on the horn. I got the machine and then a receptionist said she was going to to get through to the owner. But he's not available the owner's not available. Tell them to become available. What is he's got a time to process right boomer. Probably with the way that people are putting in pools. Yeah i would think so. But there's a lotta great here for you. Ceelo check it out. We can go round. we can go take. We'll take care of it for eight. Just tell us which one you gonna get me in a book which one you want. Not that expensive. They're not that relatively speaking. You want this. You want this over one with the staircase which one exactly you're talking about. He's talking about the one with the lighting here. That does very nice nice. We'll we'll see how much that one is. See if it's in season fits in the right spot in the backyard. You don't get picky here about picky. I'm just telling you. It's a very sloped backyard. That whole thing with the gift horse in the mouth situation. Let's not be. Don't look a gift horse in the messages. So let's just above ground pool in the mouth in the face of you give one just happens to be there at your house and it's like in What was then analyzed. This when ben stiller not ben stiller when Billy crystal comes home in the fountains. They're the big robert deniro. Sensory downright front yard. Yeah that's exactly what you're going to tony. Bennett comes over to serenade him and his fiancee. I mean it's it's about time that these that these boys get a pool about time. They're five and two suffered for long enough. Exactly the words right out of my mouth and come on dad. Let's step it up to one day. I remember about my above ground pool. Growing up as the water was always cold. Frilly yes well. I think. I think things have changed now. You can always you can warm up. That's the other thing. The mirages heated pool. He's got a heated leader. He's greg above ground pool. We got nicer won the net. Yeah you can have the nicer pool. He's a big star. Now you know. I know they gave him like co title over there. Like a ten thousand dollar raise and all of a sudden. He's got a heated above ground. Pool must be nice. Dan in freehold. What's going on dan. Hey what's up. I grew up with a pool from central jersey pull. They're fantastic fantastic ceelo. I don't know why you're i'm not knocking central jersey pulls it. I no route route. Nine right next to the the bmw dealership. It's almost like thirty five. Maybe forty years sixty four years. Yeah actually sixty four years. Thank you very much. Yeah that's right. I'm only forty forty years in your mind. Very happy grope with an above ground. listen. I'm seeing at four point one out of five on one hundred and fifty. Google reviews solid reputation. There all right very good unmatched strength and durability to last a lifetime. I think this is what we got. Beat that we've got to get this thing. Dropped right net lopresti backyard for this summer at saddam. Thanks here you'll to you guys up a little bit appreciate any way you to covid ran through you like a train. What is the doboy pull builder. What does that doboy. where are you seeing. Says that under pool option l. We'll see what happens. Options doboy pool builder full option dope love ground pool builder custom designed. There's the doboy. Oh yeah when you want the finest above ground pools available. There's nobody like doboy pool there. You go so they must be one of the You know like the brand manufacturer. Yes that this company installs ourselves. Oh yeah no this is at. This is a little too fancy schmidt here so for us. Listen like you said i mean. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I can't tell guys to get and what not all of a sudden you're asking me for doboy now. I'm just worried about the fit on the on the lawn back there. That's so much space. You got a ham again. Like four or five acres back there. No we don't have four or five acres. I think the whole the whole Lots like one three quarters. Okay you got over an acre back. Yeah well no on the back talking about the entire property. You i mean you. You'll be able to find a place to put the place put in last spring. That's in the back corner where there is some flat ground. We need to flat ground for that pool would have to go. I guess on the other and the other corner the back left of the problem. Yeah you probably get some fencing to these doboy steel and resin pools of they look fabulous in any backyard fabulous. I just wanna make sure it's not tilted. That's all good jersey sales guy who's down near in central jersey. Who do we know who's down there in central jersey here. Yeah of course. Yeah so we have always Dan danny sees a long island guy. The sales guys don't talk to me much. Believe it or not. We'll change that. we got dante. He's a jersey guy right. Mark dante saved covers. You can put an elephant on. I see that looking at data. Actually they get the elephant on that they you know what they probably did was the pro like a trail treats or something you know trail or whatever they eat or photoshop not that's an elephant pilcomayo on a pool it is. It's no doubt about it. Careful y'all old guy was really marc malusis into why did right. Yeah and you agree with him. Though i saw the picture somebody sent it to me. I was the one. I know that but they didn't you also feel like that. That could have been like someone. Actually photoshop loses his face known until jerry did by the way. I tweeted that out. Did you see that eddie. Yesterday by the way that four box with the mark melissa's thing a tweet. The exile i did yes. Yeah no. I wanted to see that thing. I'll get a kick out of our right. So what a birkin. Dante meaty might be jersey guy. Yeah maybe we gotta get a jersey guy on this to drive over there to morning among the doboy pager due to overwhelming demand the only pools currently available are the autumn breeze and the silver lake. Whatever that means the everybody's getting pools now we'll of course then all leave their houses. I'll look here's these. Wow all right. So the autumn those are above ground pools. The autumn breeze fifty two inch resin frame pool. Six and a half resin top rails. It's an oval one. That's the one we want the autumn breeze for you. That's the one we need. I like a good autumn breeze. Some big autumn fan all right. What's the other one. The autumn breeze of the what silver lake which is further down on the right hand side. Cd okay i Quickly dan carter rent. What's going on. Dan oh hey. How's it going up man. I got a couple of things i got. Pool guy reference for you for ceelo my friend. Kristen her husband. Neil has his own company called new jersey guys. New jersey poll is at neilan bomb jersey. Pull guys what's that. Yeah okay so. We'll look into that as well. Dan all right very good. You could check that out. I was hoping to comments about your your the things you said yesterday about the podcast without but the jerry and our off today you're going to save that one day and you're gonna have to pivot yup got gotta pit it and save that one but so and and the only other thing i got is Regarding the yankees poland coal yesterday and feel also a feel good friday today. I was planning to go to the bar when i got off. Work this morning and sit at a bar for the first time your new jersey and my local dive watering hole is not open yet. For some reason. I've not open at nine. Am what's wrong with them. They're normally open at seven. Am actually just place. It's known for that it's it's called kelly's pub and they're usually open super early but for some reason they're not opening bullpen. Am okay. i'll get over the. You're going to be over there at ten bourbon and beer to start off. You feel good friday absolutely. I mean there's no other way to do it. You know first time in over a year you can sit off bar. No high top table gopher betty mike and watch it. I just hope that you're walking there. Dan because i know you are going to be completely and utterly waffled by noon. Yes i will be walking by balancing around to a bunch of local bars in the carter at woodbridge Ralway area. you may want to take a little bradley beach just to make sure that our guys. Okay down there dan. Yeah and when's the last time you had sex Seven months ago seven months. It's better than i thought. Wow actually it's better than i thought talking with mike. We're not talking about with my hand in that. Make it or not boy did you. I would. I would have had the the over on that. We are going to transition into a little bit more serious. You say mr neil and joe wants the now goes period. Yeah i would have gone. I would have gone over with that. Yeah if you would've said the over. Under the last time. Dan i would have thought maybe about three years. Now when i heard seven. I thought yeah i thought when he goes at seven i was like i thought it was going to and he said months. We think he's being truthful. I feel you telling you there was a long pause there. He would tell us the truth. He admitted he smoked crack. So i would think you would tell us little. That's a little different little. Yeah i think it's not like a badge of honor to crack smoker. No it's not a badge of honor but you think he's lying. I there was a big there was like a. It's like you really had to think about it. So i i'm not saying it's like a massive lying but i don't know that he knows for sure that seven months all right very good. All right. Ceelo will work on that What's the name of that one down at a silver. The autumn breeze working at autumn priests and a lot of people on twitter. Don't go above ground getting a lot of that here in my mentions telling you nothing. They can get an in ground loop recipes can pay for an in ground pool. I understand we're in jio could pay for an autumn breeze so which one is is. I'm not trying to you know suggest you guys get me an in ground pool. I'm not trying to suggest you give me anything you know. I'd like to actually earn and be able to put one in myself along with my wife. So that when my boy's asked where it came from. I don't know boomer dan and carterton secretary ceelo. We'll see in a couple of minutes each morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo when a strange man is alone in the woods a search to figure out who is sends me to some incredible places. He crossed the atlantic Small he told me he got selected as escort for miss america. You also married an actress broadway actress. You learn to recognize people who have a little bit of con- in and he was that stay away from matthew mcgill new episodes everywhere weekly or you can mentioned the whole thing right now exclusively on the new odyssey app. That's a ud ac y. I'm jon meacham. Welcome to fate. A fact season one. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Please listen and follow fate of fact a presentation of shining city audio. A john truman. C thirteen original studio available. Now for free on apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Rick Horton on the shutdown, Molina, Pujols

"Hit a home run and get pre-approved for your next refinance or home. Purchase at the home loan expert Dot Com. Enjoy the podcast this cardinals broadcaster and Chinooks Shopper. Dan McLaughlin Chinooks would like to thank everyone during this difficult time that includes those that are working in the stores as you can imagine. During this time Chinooks employees are putting in long hours around the clock to best serve our community so the next time. You're in Chinooks. Tell them thanks and that you appreciate them. Let them know how much we appreciate their efforts because we will all get through this together. Welcome into scoops with Danny Mac dot com and my podcast with my broadcast partner recording ricky of course pitched for the Saint Louis Cardinals Starter reliever closer now working on the radio and TV broadcasts throughout the summer when we have baseball. And let's hope that that'll be sooner than later. Rick is always good to be with you. I hope you're safe and healthy. And and how are you dealing with what we're all going through right now? Well it actually hasn't been bad. Dan and I say that with full understanding that for a lot of people it has that so I mean I I understand that there are people that not not just the economic issues that are going on but also the the health issues that people are dealing with a very real way out very sensitive to that and empathetic towards that on our front. You know we've been fine. Our kids are fine. And we're just using it as a time to it for Annan. I just to connect we go a lot of walks and I'm learning how to cook at the age of the age of sixty so a finally. Yeah you can teach an old dog new tricks in but but it has been you know time of reading and reflection and It just hasn't been it hasn't been all bad in terms of how he dealt with it. Let's put it that way sure. How about baseball how much? He missed the game. Well I missed the game. Finding I'm a little surprised at this. I'm finding that that I really missed the light game. You know. I've been a student of history. I love history just in general as you know. Dan For with all of our travels together and I'm reading books on history and military history but I thought I would be just kind of able to just embrace and get behind a lot of kind of you know. Pass Baseball Games in the history but I want now. I guess surprised at that because I thought I would be a consumer of baseball past and I'm really. I'm really looking for baseball. Present and baseball teacher. I'D BE REMISS. If I didn't ask you because I know fans WanNa know if we're going to play this year my gut feeling is we will how about you. Yeah I think we will. Of course playing in front of fans is is obviously not a high probability of that at least the beginning and who knows how long out of course is a is a sad thing for all of the deal with you know love to be able to bring with you and on radio site to up to be able to bring Cardinal Baseball fans. I mean I can't go anywhere. I'm talking about drugstores and be six feet away from people without somebody saying miss the cardinals and miss the cardinals and this the cars. I think there would be some some really good things that would come from from giving us that. Diversion if that happens at You know will it be a hundred percent of what we've had in the past in probably not in terms of the field but I but I'd love to go back to work with you Dan and get back after it and and hope that somewhere down the road in the future we do have our return to normal? Yeah I'd love it to record my guest of Ricky. I'm curious about playing in front of no fans. What do you think? That's like from a professional athlete standpoint. Especially guys that have been doing it a long time and especially in Saint Louis. When we're playing the MARLINS on a Tuesday in July and there's forty thousand people to none. What do you think that's going to be like well? To the veteran big leaguers they're going to have to channel their minor league career. Maybe College Career. You remember what it was like. Just play because you know and not necessarily have to draw the energy of the crowd and and that is a thing that obviously when you get the big leagues I mean. It is incredible when you walk into a Ballpark in their forty thousand people screaming or Buni. Whichever the case may be I mean. It's I mean it is really an electric experience and I will say this that there were times in and I have to reach way back in my memory banks to remember this damn but there were there were cities at that you'd go to in the National League and at the time it was Atlanta Montreal Pittsburgh that were not drawing very well and you had to remind yourself that these are big gains account it so so there but it wasn't mental exercise for from players point of view and from a coach manager to say look it doesn't feel like this game counts but it sure does so. There's there's going to have to be some mental toughness. I think with players and of course. That's what they pride themselves in his mental toughness. But they're going to have to find ways to gear up and get that energy get that adrenaline from somewhere. I'm fascinated what a roster may look like so. Da Take thirty guys thirty five the forty man whatever. The case may be because if you're playing a lot of games condense schedule you could have injuries. You might have guys struggling. You'd love to go down to the minor leagues and bring somebody up To that point that's where I think the cardinals at least coming out of spring training. What I felt was that they would be very very good pitching wise. We're GONNA find out about the offense but pitching wise. I think they could come out of this thing. Maybe better than any other team. In the League I agree one hundred percent. Believe that Whitey Herzog's on record saying the same thing it's an and I would say beyond that then I would say forty is too many personally. They may do that but I think I. I think that would be too crowded in some ways but if you go to thirty thirty two. I think that maybe is the right number as far as I'm concerned but it isn't just a pitching you know. It's it's if you're gonNA play every single day is. Yada you're GONNA catch every day is probably GONNA play shortstop every. Yeah and and so it's not. It is the pitching yes but it's also you know. Do you have it at moon dosage. Ready to play shortstop backup all young after he's played thirty days in a row. Or do you have an extra second baseman. Do you have the versatility of Itami Edmund where he can play several places? I think you know the more the Merrier when it comes to this kind of situation and that and it certainly true the pitching. I would be very surprised if they don't really push the envelope. In terms of how soon they start relative to pitchers actually being ready to pitch. I I don't think they're going to gear up to Pitcher Song Seven. And you know we did that. Once in spring training gotten geared up to that and then had to have the shutout honestly I think if you can get started to go three or four at the beginning of whatever the season might look like and you go ahead and have a seven and rotation and just let them throw three or four until they build up and and and a team like the cardinals yes. I think they have four start. Gummer Leone et CETERA. And you've got camera with a really good at spring training so you'll set options for Mike show which I think is a plus for Saint. Louis I find it. Fascinating to what veterans will be like like meaning their body. You know in a Wayne. Right now gets two to three months off. Yati can rest his body. Those kind of guys those types of players in the league how they respond after being amped up for spring. Now you're down now. You have to get it back going again very quickly. I think that's kind of a neat to be part of this to see who responds a new dozen. It's going to be fascinating to see how players are ready for. Whatever happens there again. We don't know one does it. You know we we end up saying a lot of John. Mosaics been saying lately is I don't know because that's what I said at each other a lot when we chatted. You just don't know what you don't know You know but the point. Is You know at some point. You're going to have veteran players that are going to have to get ready in a hurry. So so if you're a veteran player Dan as we know it's spring training. They get there early February in then they end up playing games by April. I just roughly but their work starts in November. So you have to back up to three or four months to get ready to where they're getting ready for April so now the unknown of what's going on right now is a detriment to a player veteran or otherwise. That probably should be thinking. Okay so I have to believe this is like my mid February time or maybe my early January time. What am I doing Ben to get ready for a season because the reality is it's going to be a rush. The decision is made. It's not going to be three months and then we're going to go after it. It might be a month so you're going to have to. Kinda get ready as if the season's GONNA start a month with means out early Spring Training. You're going to be an early spring training shape without having spring training and I think that's going to be a challenge mentally and physically again whether you're young young or old player when I've been asked about this I said baseball. It's an outlier this year. It's a blank canvas. So if we have realignment with divisions if we're playing doubleheaders have seven inning games extra innings. You start with a runner at second base. I don't like it but if we had to do it we do it. There's all kinds of things that we hear about from your perspective. What do you think about all those different things? That are being rumored about well. My perspective would be an an and I'm I think I'm not speaking for every fan because every fan is different and and Greg casters different players different. We'll have opinions. And and that's what makes the game so interesting. I really do believe that. I just WanNa love about baseball. Is You know it's kind of hard to have a definitive right or wrong about analytics school you know the FDA hit and run. The I mean all those things are I to me. What Makes Baseball Interesting do you take the picture out? Lebron but what what I believe personally as a fan of the game I would rather see less changes than more changes because we're already going to have changes thrust upon US meaning. Nobody in the stands. That's GonNa be weird so I prefer to have the teams playing in their home. Ballparks so at least it has it feel for that as you're watching. Tv You're listening on the radio so you have a little bit of a feel for okay. It's not normal but it still the big leagues and so I think any changes beyond that if you go to electronic umpires if you go to the Second Base. I wouldn't be in favor of that. Even in the National League which I know is certainly possible. The more changes that you make I think for the fan might make them a little disenchanted. Maybe to too much change too fast I you know. I read a book years ago called Managing Change and there is a real art to managing change. When you're in corporate America you have to do that very adeptly. And I'm and I'm concerned that too many macro changes will will actually hurt the product and hurt the viewer and in the end the fan now again. I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYBODY. Dan. I'm just speaking for myself. I don't think recording. There's any way I could see Yada. You're Molina in another uniform playing major league baseball but He has come out and said that he wants to play beyond this year. We know that his three year deal. That extension is up after this season. The pandemic is made him kind of rethink of what he wants to do in his future. I I don't know about you but I can't see him playing anywhere else. I think the legacy stuff all of it matters and I do think you'll finish up in Saint Louis. What do you think I hope he does? I believe he will. I don't fault him for making the comments that he made you know. Everybody's kind of that At a regroup moment right now in terms of what? Wait a minute you know. He would've thought by this time. He would have had thirty. Plus Games under his belt. Maybe you know in in the number of at Bats home runs and RBI's in all the things. Yada mass in his career headed towards the hall of fame are very important to him as they should be and so for him to be thinking that boy. If I'm not playing this half year or or quarter of the year whatever it may end up being that he misses it may give me some incentive to want play longer and I hope the cartels will be the place I play but but I have to cover all my bases so I don't blame him for making that comment at all but I sure hope that and I sure hope and think that he's going to stay a cardinal. Okay now I'm GonNa get you in trouble you ready. Yeah I've been there before. We trust me. We both have so. Albert pools said over the weekend that he wants to maybe play beyond his deal. Let's just say for argument's sake the D. H. is coming to the National League and I I think it is. You think there'd be a reunion with the cardinals in some point with him. Wouldn't that be something incredible? You know I guess what I don't know an and that's actually the. I heard that the miss that new somehow. That's that Albert was thinking about that. I Know Albert was highlighted over the weekend in a big way with the MLB network. And you know good for him but if he came back as a cardinal and you think about the moment that he had last year in his return to. Saint Louis how electric was that. That was such an awesome rate thing. I mean everything about that was awesome. And so you know maybe that fuels the fire of this kind of conversation. What I don't know is how the circus contract fits into that that he has with angels by all that stuff can be negotiated in dealt with and and Oh my goodness that you would I don't know whether it be. We still be social distancing or not but you tackling stadium every night if Albert was back in town so you know. I'm just trying to get you in trouble so that we're on the record here that you believe he is going to come back and then retire with cardinal uniform on and that's exactly what you just said No. I think I'm intrigued by it and I hope it's the first I've heard of it but signed me up. Oh Man I'm not the one paying them of course and I'm not the one that goes all those deals. But let's say if you think about it from visionary standpoint from a from a career capstone standpoint just how meaningful that would be to so many people eat all of course. He has great friends and great relationships where he is now up. But you know it's it's it's certainly it's certainly worth dreaming about list but yeah it would be something else. I'll I'll wrap it up with this. Stay with you on Albert here because there's so much over the weekend on. Mlb Network Boys dedicated to Albert and then the The the report Coming from ESPN about. He's not ready to talk about retirement yet. Not Getting ahead of himself but just doesn't want to talk about yet. What's your favorite moment with Albert? Because you knew him on a very personal level in nome a very personal level we've all seen the moments on the field but do you have one that stands out for you. Well it personal moments with our because I was I was close to him and what I remember about the personal moments with him not on the field stuff but you know how on any given day I would walk by Albert and he would have that stone-faced look and he would walk past me like he'd never met me in his life and I just walked the next day I'd walk by Albert Hug. Has his eyes would light up. He'd come and hug me and tell me that he loved me so I honestly that's Albert and you know I actually admire that about a competitive get so locked in that. You don't even really Kinda see what's right next to you at times. But but that's how intense of a guy was but but those memories of those Albert Hooks personally Are Really meaningful to me several specific things that I can think about in that regard but now just a reminder honestly reminder this weekend of some of the gains that I had an opportunity to work where he had the the three home. Run game on the Buddy Day at the ballpark with had the Parade Down Syndrome community and we had a deep in our booth a talking to her. I mean that's pretty special. Because that's one of those games it kind of transcendence baseball itself and it gets very personal. And and that's that's probably the one that's except the most to me. You know before I let you go. I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this up. The Cardinals Hall of fame voting ended. I believe on Friday. So we're GONNA find out who makes it into the hall of fame this year and hopefully we'll have a ceremony and it'll be the pomp and circumstance that we're accustomed to but you could have two of your former teammates going in. I think there's a great shot that John Tudor goes in and Tommy Her and Tommy in my mind gets overlooked of just how good of a baseball player. He was in that time. And I know you feel the same way. Y- I do John Tudor people know about his string of Of Wins that he put together an eighty five and three years running. It was a bet was really the best pitcher in the National League. I would say you. You wouldn't want them not not electric stuff guy but just unbelievable competitor and certainly deserves it and everybody on that list. Serves it a but the question is who do we think is who handicapping to get in there? But Tommy Her The thing about Tommy. Is You really have to look beyond the numbers with Tom? Her because he was the team leader in the eighties played on the eighty. Two World Championship team was there. Eighty five and again at eighty seven. So he was. He was as much a part of of the eighty successes any player agent. Certainly throw Zia that too but but the two of them together were were or critically important. Thomas really again our leader in so many ways. I still have a heart for for Keith Hernandez because I know how much this would mean to him. But I don't with me. Lots of Tom and John Generous. Well so you know I I I know go all get in at some point in so I'm not too worried about those guys but you just hope sooner or later sooner than later for the guys that you played with and no one really care about ricky. Thanks so much. Great catching up and soon enough. We'll be back in the booth column. Baseball can't wait for it. Yeah I can't wait either Danny West. The McLaughlin here to tell you about the hometown automotive family. I trust the most the loop US automotive network and you know they are Saint Louis loop. Who's been part of Saint Louis over seven decades? They're proud to support Saint Louis in the surrounding areas with cars youth. Sports and charitable efforts. Fourteen brands ten locations just visit views dot com to start shopping today wes.

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05/06/2021 - Best Of The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

41:09 min | Last month

05/06/2021 - Best Of The Odd Couple

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Listen to las tells on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts brought to you by discover- discover something brighter. Thanks for listening to the best of the odd couple podcasts. Be sure to catch us. Live every weekday from seven pm to ten pm eastern four to seven pacific or fox sports radio. Find your local station for the odd couple at fox sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching f s. Are you're listening to the best of cod with chris. Bruce rob harker all right rob. Let's stick with baseball. Because another certain hall of famer and i know youngsters who just saw him In anaheim might be like what. But he's a clear cut hall of famer host cut today. He wants to play but has anybody picking him up you know what is david you are. I'm gonna give you the destination his own manager from saint louis where chris. Tony larussa is with the white sox. He's the manager albert pools even though. That's a young team with a lot of swag tim anderson. He could wind up there in the clubhouse for these young. I'm telling you the same way that tim tibo my my wind up in jacksonville albert pools could wind up. I'm just saying wind up there or you just hundred out. I'm just it out from just because you want a professional in the clubhouse and he say anyone he's not a bad guy right. He said he wants to play so if he can bring that. I got no problem with that. But i don't expect a senior at the plate much because he doesn't have much left than is now forty on believable career. Guys a hall of famer in saint. Louis chris he was a machine you know literally that was his name. The machines wasn't yep so all right so he's retired or a cut today. But i says he's caught not released jetta hasn't dated designated force chris designated side real man up keeping it real. But here's the thing rob and i feel. I feel strange about who holds. You heard me just moments ago. Undoubtedly a hall of famer home. There's no buts about my number in credentialing almost three hundred words career. So that's without question. But and he was better at his sport. Vince carter was it in the nba. So it's a little bit different but it's like you. And i've always talked about vince carter. Who was in my book. The greatest game dunker of all time a who is probably going to be a hall of famer but he did play so many years as a role player when he was past. Its prime that you kinda forgot about how great he was. And i gotta be honest with pool halls. I kind of feel the same way robb. Nearly also he was. He was mediocre in anaheim. That's what he was. Rob is that is. That is that not is up for debate mediocre. I mean he had a couple of years. Chris had a couple. I'm just saying but but but for the most part you know when you have a ten year contract you know at red mediocre. But he's a little wetter but yeah he was. He wanted to god. He wasn't saint louis right and you got to remember and i blamed saint louis a little bit for this chris. I do because they didn't want to pay them like they didn't really want to. People want to feel loved blamed. Saint louis i do you think it would have been different if he would have been saint. Louis i'm just saying had he stayed there and gotten paid out. Don't look at him the same way. Because he went to anaheim he went to the angels and it really didn't work out of it of not working out right. Don't you think of that. And i think if he would've stayed in saint louis he would've age gracefully would have had those couple more big years. You have thought of him as an all time cardinal and it probably would have been a safe to say for landing softer landing for him. You look at albert pools. Now you think board. He made a mistake leaving the cardinal absent. Am i right. That's what power absolutely don't i. Okay i'm with you. There's no doubt they had state. Let's say he stayed in saint louis and did the exact same thing he did. Y'all in anaheim right. Never hit three hundred again. You know ask some big home run years here and there but you know it was clearly not what he used to be. I agree with you. It wouldn't have looked as bad just because he had already won a couple world series. And you know why and all that. However here's the one thing. I'll say rob there in baseball now in football we got an example beyond bill. You left pittsburgh where it was it was. You're a hall of famer. He was headed to the hall of fame. Probably and you go to jets. And you're you fall off completely. We can name other players that happened to basketball. There's obviously a lebron durant kyrie. Certain guys can go anywhere and they're going to be the man but there are there's a level of star in the nba rob that if they go to the wrong place. It won't be the same. Is the coach. Whatever i one. I'll give you one guy right off the bat in basketball draymond green. If he went to another team who is yeah. No doubt go get paid. He would not play the same way absolutely. No cine be a bomb morning thing. Would you agree with me. Like when he stayed in golden state remember. Detroit was going after him. Big time he. If you weren't paid him. Max money brought him in to be your guy. You would have been sorely disappointed. Because he's not a score a he needs other scores though he can do the other stuff. That's a good one. But here's what i'll say rob in baseball. I get it if you leave a winning franchise which obviously saint louis is in was right. They win right right winning franchise and you go play somewhere. That doesn't win. It looks like an l no matter how well you play. 'cause now you're not in the spotlight as much and you're not in the postseason so on and so forth but i will say that to me. There's no excuse in baseball. If you go to another team you may not win but you should still be able to hit the ball like you always did. He was only thirty when he went to anaheim right. He wasn't an old man yet and it had some by the other thing too. Chris is who's batting around. You don't forget sometime when team dude at a bad team and i i would call the angels not a bad team but a mediocre team and trout. Wasn't there from day one if you don't have guys batting around you and you're the big bat. I'm not gonna throw you anything to hit. it's happened. All the guys were they. Send them to a team. And then they don't perform because they're not gonna get pitched to and he came from a lineup that was four deep right and and and you can't pitch around them. You're not you gotta pick your poison. And i'm going to give fastballs because you can't walk me. There's a guy hitting behind me so that's a problem right. What in this case you know we saw we saw and you brought this up on our pre show meeting robinson could know who got off a tournament to leave new york where he was headed for the hall of fame with the yankees to go play in seattle where people didn't get to watch him play. He's still put up good numbers you know. He's he's been derailed because of the steroids and all that but he's another guy who took the money in a situation where he probably should have played his whole career and yank with the yankees right and look he dig is so much more. Money is kind of hard right. But you're right. He fell off the map and he still was playing pretty well. But to your point he fell off the mat. And i'm gonna throw another one at you rob and we're trying to do this with new york guys. But jose reyes four time all star with the mets left and never made another all star team. He was another guy. He was a big star in new york. They love never made another all star team and you know again had some some solid seasons but yeah and we'll see if that happens you know now visit new york. They're wondering is that gonna happen with francisco endure not be you know like i. He left cleveland for the big money. Why even though the mets on a bad team or anything but he could wind up where things don't work out quiz and you can look at him but we'd be interesting to hear from everybody out there listening chris. Yeah i mean it's pool hosts a gr. He's like a great example of the grass is not always greener on the other side. Another guy basketball. Rob lamarcus aldridge. Yup wouldn't terrible for him in san antonio but but it wasn't the same you right right like if i were to look at that situation i would say l. Yeah exactly. He should have stayed. Put he's had damian lillard and you know. I don't think they would've won the championship but there would have been better. Be sure to catch. 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It's when you run into a dude but totally draw blank on his name right sometimes. It's tough for me with my wife's work colleagues. Lots of doctors not everyone sports fans so i kind of quiet you quiet. I don't like formal situations. I like miller time for sure. Miller lite is brewed for those times. When you can just hang out and have a good time and miller. Lite only has ninety six calories so as less filling. it's not a seltzer. it's not an ip. It's just great beer so next time you're getting beers with friends make it milita on. Luckily you can pick up some miller lite pretty much anywhere. They sell beer or go to mypillow dot com forward slash odd couple to find delivery options near you. It's miller time celebrate responsibly. Miller brewing company milwaukee wisconsin ninety six calories and three point two carbs per twelve ounces air. You know russell. Westbrook is gonna average a triple double rob for the fourth year. I want to ask you before we get into the meat of this topic. I talked about it a bit. I don't know if yesterday or the day before i just. It's so phenomenal to me that this guy could do something that jason kidd didn't do. Lebron didn't do magic didn't do you know. Grant hill luca. We'll see. i mean who can yoke looked like maybe they could do in the future. But nobody's done. And i and i hear a lot of people say lebrons could've done it and maybe i mean you certainly think is but the fact is he didn't he didn't do doing for eighteen years so start right. He didn't know automatic like all abroad could done net. Why were if he would just playing chrissy could've done it is and that's what i want to ask you. Where do you think like to me. This is awesome. And i know. I'm not saying westbrook's the second best point guard ever or even necessarily top five or anything but i'm gonna give him props for this incredible feat where you add on what he's done. I think it's incredible. I told you before. I was really impressed when we talked about it when he did it at. Okay see you remember. We talked about. You got the mvp that year. Yup oh yeah and he was winning right and he was winning. Remembers record was not one. Five hundred is record was way better. Would he had a triple double and now is it like seventy five percent of the games he gets triple double. That's what i'm saying. Whereas if it was fifty fifty and it would be like patting numbers or below five hundred. I wouldn't respect it. I wouldn't i mean and pay if he was on a bad team and it was five hundred. You know what i mean. That's i think the context. But i see what you're saying i mean i'm just saying like it. It gives you a real value to it right. It's not empty. So so so. I have a lot of respect for what he's able to do. I like them from the standpoint. I think he's a little sensitive but a lot of these guys are just think that you know to worry about everything people are saying about you but i think that's his new generation. You know i. I really do that. They're bothered by people saying stuff but and go ahead. No but i respect the way he plays. He doesn't cheat fans his teammates. He doesn't take a day off chris. He's trying to win and he's playing hard all the time. I appreciate that right. Absolutely and so. He's he's getting starting to get criticism as all the greats do when nato win championships and it'll look when he retires. Yeah people will say if he doesn't win one. He's one of the greatest ever to never win a championship. You know it comes up with charles. Barkley it comes. Patrick ewing all that but for the most part though rob they get their love you know what i mean like everybody. Acknowledges how great barkley was in and malone and stockton and nash. It'll be the same thing with westbrook. V never was a championship. But in the moment you getting criticized because that's about winning and so oscar robertson spoke with mark stein our former colleague over at the old place and he talked about i. I guess we don't have sound so i'll read kind of what he said. But let me paint. The kinds of everybody knows for the most part that oscar average triple w. before westbrook did he was the only player ever to average a triple double for season. But you got to put it in context for the younger people. Listening chris yes. Cincinnati used to have a basketball team. Royals right like like people don't know would you hit the nba. Natty ride we talked about it yesterday. Syracuse right four way back for what about the kansas city. Kansas city roy. It was kansas city like omaha omaha. Kansas city omaha mom. That's when when tiny archibald led the league in scoring and assists there was for the kansas city omaha royals. What was their kings kings. Kansas city omaha kings believe. Yeah because they want to going to sacramento. Yeah and it says the natty is that they that's the king's like cincinnati franchise but anyway oscar. Here's i want to throw this out to rob and it doesn't sound quite as impressive since westbrook's done it now but if you take the first we know is your average triple double one year but if you take his first five not five. Random seasons his first five seasons in the nba and put them together as the conglomerate is like three hundred eighty four games or something like that. He averaged a triple double for the first five seasons of his career in total. Because he had you know eat. Every year we average like nine point five assists in another year average. Eleven point one or something. You know what i mean. And and same with rebounds. So they're only one year. Did he do it. But if you put those five years together he averaged a triple double overdose five years so incredible and remember. There were three pointers ryan. I'm just saying in scoring christodoulou. Easier with with all the threes they played. They played at a hectic pace. I mean they shot sons as they top more back then. So that's why you. That's one reason you saw these guys get naughty. Rebounds will average twenty seven and also a lotta guys have terrible. shooting percentages. Chris right does she know is low. Bob cousy is under forty percent is considered one thirty seven percent or something like that right. We're not looked at his numbers. I was like what the bill russell's forty four percent. We we got it. We got up. Show respect 'cause we talked about it with quarter now. We didn't see cousy and russell for the most part. But no saw these great quarterbacks who if you look back nowadays that their numbers you know what i mean. You'll be like we're talking about terry bradshaw. Terry bradshaw has two hundred twelve touchdowns rob two hundred ten interceptions. That's believable. I mean anyone right so any other one is different. You could go. Look back at some of those stat. Lines and quarterbacks chris in a game who were twelve for twenty five you know camo. Yeah like oh yeah go down. Five and worse. I'm sure but anyway. I defended russell from against criticism which sits consider you know. Oscar didn't win a lot. Rob oscar won one championship when he went to milwaukee after ten years in cincinnati he goes. The milwaukee would have lew alcindor of course now kareem abdul-jabbar. They won the championship in their first season together and they didn't win another one although they went to the finals. One more time and lost. But you're going to now remember. They didn't have as many playoff series back. Then but oscar rob. I'm going to ask you to guess. In ten years with the cincinnati royals. How many playoff series you think you one. cincinnati was. The team wasn't good. It was a bad situation. I'm gonna say two times in those ten years. Wow did you look that up no to. You're right yeah. No i know that. Chris i know the history of it because you know i worked there and i just remember. There have been a number of people. Chris who have tried to bring the nba back to cincinnati. This was in the nineties. Like trying to get a team back right. And who's the biggest guy against it. Ask oscar really the biggest against it because he likes. These still lives. There doesn't it. Yeah but he was mad at the people because they didn't come to the games. It was adopted downtrodden. Or you know what i mean like. He kinda bitter over how they treated that team and while he was there chris so but he's always been ran. Sunday met oscar know lived in cincinnati when i was a kid by and met oscar when i was like four years old my one of my cousins babysat flooring and she was older obviously but So yeah we. I remember being at his house and meeting meeting him. A kid for years old but i just when you when you tried to dribble a basketball with laces fell crazy. Where's craig melvin where you're needing i But anyway so so. The big rob supported westbourne. Here's what he said. I think he criticism happens with great basketball players. Like westbrook myself. I was with cincinnati for many years but we never made any notable trades to get better players. If you look back through the history asking just listen to what he's saying. No chris that's the little rippon cincinnati they'd never made night yup yup and he said i always tell people. Every team has won a championship. May key trades boston. Got bill russell. Red auerbach was astute and getting older starters for other from other teams to play off the bench flooring and say look players dole win championships by themselves. You gotta have good management and you need to get with the right group of players. Let me say this about lebron. I was talking to lebron once before he went to miami and this was maybe a year or two before he made his decision. But you know it was starting to come up. Everybody's talking about it. And i was talking to him and he was like look. He wasn't saying he was leaving but he was just like you gotta go to a good organization and he was like i've done my research and there's only soul of handful of organizations that have won championships and it's it was true. You know you think. Back rob detroit. The lakers the celtics houston philadelphia. Sick now because they had jordan. But you know what i mean like. It is true that the organization and the way they run. Things does have a good amount to do with you know. do you win. And so Lebron knew that and he's only gone. I mean cleveland was home but you look at the other places. He's gone to miami. We're pat riley and the lakers and lakers had new management. But you know what. I'm saying like they're good organizations and so But yeah rob. I just think players we we. We talk about all the time. When you're comparing the greats. Rob what do you do you. Nitpick and winning counts now. Winning always counts. Money tells you that winning doesn't count. Then you know what i always bring up. And i know is unfair to him. Chris but i always bring up marv levy. Who was the coach of the buffalo bills. You are we went to nomar. No but but this is my point. If winning didn't matter he went to four straight super bowls. Chris wright his name is never mentioned as a one of the greatest coaches or the greatest coach. Ever won four straight super bowl because he didn't win winning does matter. That's all i'm saying is winning. Does matter don't act like it doesn't matter he's named never comes up. Never now you ryan win. And i'll give oscars right in that you do need great players. And that's why. I don't kill lebron and lebron case especially the first time he goes to miami he did. What their management whether it was the management rob or just the city or what. They couldn't get anybody. He was trying to get chris bosh to go there. He wouldn't and early when he was younger. He didn't recruit michael raid. And guys like that which you should probably regrets it now. But you know. Magic had magic to the team with the reigning. Mvp right kareem abdul-jabbar. Larry bird now granted. They weren't very good but they had a lot of hall of famers. All the archibald right cowan's i think was still there but didn't they mikhail parish in each celtics. Were bad right. But they had those names but they were older to your point. But but you know. I mean dr j. one it when he got moses. You need great players. I'm not denying there something to be said for building it and that's what is. Am thomas built it right Michael jordan built it lebron k. d. and harden. 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That's go forward dot com interesting situation going and we know that that is said now that they're going to allow players to capitalize chip a capitalize on their name image. And like the head of choice. Chris right you're right. We're not dragging their feet. Yeah and they're dragging their feet like crazy but georgia. They're governor bryant. Kim did sign the state's new bill. That will kind of begin to put some teeth to this thing. But i don't like the teeth but here rob explained the way. This is a shaping up. That's right it's on the new bill that's going to regulate the name image and likeness which is coming full-scale by the way they're they're antidote. Plays hoping that the federal government will get involved so they have a uniform plan across all fifty states but for now to make it should be because it gives if is not uniform. it's gonna give certain schools advantages. They were supposed advantages. Were supposed january and they pushed it back the federal side of it so it was like if it's if it's seventy could lose up to seventy five percent of the state of georgia and then caledonia. Alexander says it will only going to take twenty five percent of your money max right. That's a big reason to wanna go there. Isn't it absolutely there. You go rob just explain the whole thing very quickly very succinctly they are allowing athletes starting july first to make money off their name image and likeness. This is enjoying this data georgia however buried in that provision states that any school is entitled to up to seventy five percent of whatever it is. The athlete makes in any deal. So for example georgia quarterback. Jt daniels who i assume would be the big man on campus in georgia not just on campus but in the entire state because college football king down there right if he signs a hundred thousand dollar deal with the local car dealership to use his picture to sell cars georgia could theoretically get seventy five grand of it. He gets twenty five grand which they then would put into an account that will be distributed to all athletes at the school. that would They will get a piece of it after they graduate. Horrible horrible bob. Gee what did. I hate right away. The same thing exactly almost verbatim. This is terrible. This is dr near the same thing. You apple yeah. There's no be seventy five percents. That is outrageous. I mean look honestly. I don't think you need. You should get anything. But i get it if they're going to ten percent. Does you know what i mean to the school. Whatever they're their to team you're playing for even know somebody's players no matter where they went right. They're gonna get it. But seventy five percent that that rob that that just upsets me to no end because we make some sense. I think that that's way. Hi chris. seventy five up to seventy five percent and if your school in urine title why wouldn't you take your seventy five percent cut. Well the one one thing they and this is why it needs to make it uniform with the federal government. But you know because what if georgia tech say. We won't take anything you come here. If you go to georgia they're taking seventy five percent. So i get it valued out but but my thing to rob him sadist to and i've always felt this way when we talk about college. Athletes getting paid. I'm sorry to me. The lacrosse players shouldn't get paid now. I if a lacrosse players good enough as some local car dealership or something money. But i'm not this is not this is a capitalistic society. I and and you go to college and you learn what you can do how to make your way in a capitalistic society. And so if jt daniels is the one that's the superstar and his talent affords him the opportunity to get this endorsement deal. He should get the money. Not the the wrestler the woman softball player. Not not the not the basketball player. If he's not getting offered to deal issue goto that guy. I this is. They're trying to soften it by saying we're gonna give it to all the athletes no rob. My argument about players. Being paid is that they generate so much money right. I don't think we. I should have got paid. We weren't generating any money in division three. You weren't buying tickets. And so i don't i wasn't about it's not about. They should just get paid. It's about in the sports football and basketball. Mainly they are on so much money that it is. It is robbery for them not to get paid other. Sports is legitimately an extracurricular activity for a lot of these other division. One sports and we talked about it before right. Didn't we talk about like the basketball march madness. Cbs the deal with tbs and turner. Whatever right six jillion dollars revise six million to be exact really six billion and is nothing and there's nothing for them right. That's that's it. That is what is wrong. And i'm sorry if the women's basketball team in generating what demands is it is what it is. It's the same reason. Rob that the nba superstars get paid more than the wnba when the wnba starts generating that kind of money. We'll talk life. This is life time we make colin cowherd is making no it's life it's supply and demand even know pretty soon you know maybe little closer lily note that was scott on the yellow. No i'm with you. I i liked the idea but this again is misguided and it misses the mark misses the mark. And if i'm a player. I'm not agreeing to seventy five percent. I just that debt. Seems like a huge number that you mean to me. I just said signed a deal with somebody chris for them to do a documentary on my life and walk around with me right. And they're gonna pay me ten million dollars from my one year at georgia tech that's-that's what dot com get the school's seven and a half million. Exactly come on. That is ridiculous. I mean who in the world came up with that. I'm serious. that is horrible. That's horrible and i don't think going to work rob because i mean unless the federal government does the same thing but that that is just that to me. That's a slap in the face to the student and i get it. They're gonna try to argue. Hey but we're giving it to all the students. It shouldn't work that way. it should be. The argument is never rob. Has anybody ever argued. Cross country teams should get paid. No there's no argument. It's all about the football and basketball. Even baseball's greatest sport in his popular that is in america. That's not the same on the college level. No it's just about the football and the basketball players period. When you get to the majors you might get a three hundred million dollar contract. Chris rock guarantee but not in college right so this. This is terrible to me and i i just again. I guess it's all up to the federal government man but maybe we're in the minority. Maybe people think this is a good deal. I love to hear what people think about it. Chris maybe we're in the minority on this. But i i'm with you. I seventy five twenty five split. What is why i'm with. I mean what would you be comfortable with because again. I wouldn't mind it if the schools don't get anything money by coming out. I don't mind giving them a little bit if okay. I'm play of georgia and say here's what i'll yes. They can get a little bit. Chris because like the nfl if you're an nfl player and you're doing commercials and you're using the nfl. You're using your uniform or whatever make the. Nfl gets a piece of it. At least you know what i'm saying. I hear the did only wing. Odd say delete jerry. I'm just saying the difference between aaron rodgers and patrick mahomes doing stay for them. They're not in uniform. They don't have to wear uniform right. Maybe there's another guy who's a green bay packer that people if you don't have a packers uniform more people don't know him chris. The nfl is entitled. The packers are entitled to a piece of that. He's using the uniform. I hear you on that. I think you could also argue that it. What's makes air rogers or pat mahomes special. Is there in the nfl right so that you could say again. It shouldn't be anywhere near seventy five percent but if if they get a small percentage or a percentage fine but in college is different. Because there's nowhere else to go other than the nfl but in college you can't say oh is because you're at the university of georgia that you're getting this. They'll know if he's that good or she's that good they would get the same deal with alabama or the same deal at ucla. I think it's a little bit different with college. But i'm fine. If they get a little something ten percent five whatever. 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Inside the Parker - Nats World Series Madness; Astros Storm Back; Guest: D.C. Anchor Darren Haynes on Washington's Run

"Half of the spiritualist who followed the Voice of Andrew Jackson Davis over the course of the nineteenth century spiritualism became a kaleidoscope of novel beliefs courageous I'm Aaron McKie Creator and host of unexcused season one was a deep dive into the Salem witch trials in this season of on obscured we'll trace the listen to bear in a band you're on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get podcasts Washington nationals they deserve it they've earned it pitching hitting power they've done it all to nothing and looked as if they might try to steal two games in Houston Houston as turned the tables winning that dramatic game move on to take on say Louis Cardinals and are able to make it happen in a four-game sweep it is an incredible we'll talk with w USA Sports Director Darren Hanes he'll talk about the nationals as they move onto the world game finally advance for the first time after so many disappointments so many bad memories in the postseason and then they knock out the vaunted and feared Los Angeles dodgers they do it in a game five in La and then they welcome into inside the Parker Your Major League Baseball Podcast of course playoff addition rob Parker here you they're coming up on the program says come from what win on Bryce Harper walked out on them a big superstar they started nineteen thirty one from the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live in Mlb America this is inside the Parker you give us twenty two minutes of the Saint Louis Cardinals and they're on their way it is an incredible run when you think about where this franchise I know you've listened to this podcast I've been talking about them all postseason long but they did it and this is an incredible a four-game sweep they have number two the Houston Astros have come storming back after the Yankees won game one six stories that much more coming up let's go to lead off it's getting robbed and keep them up rob's heartache the three biggest stories in major league baseball number one the Washington nationals go into the world series them to in Houston a walk off home run by Korea that was awesome crowd went wild and they come to the Bronx game three and they get it done with Gary Cole- their main guy on the mound he wasn't outstanding at five bowl incredible ride and they have punched their ticket to the world series the first team to do so congratulations to the WHO would have ever thought that the Macho Expos yes that's who they were before they moved to Washington would finally get there and make it to the world series but or in trouble everybody wanted Dave Martinez they managed to get fired at what do they do they make a wildcard win the wild card it's in we'll give you the scoop on Major League Baseball now here's baseball hall of fame Voter Number One oh three rob parker good to be bad in New York for game four if they do postpone the game four you could have a situation where they play four games in a row exploited pitched a shutout through seven innings kept the Yankees at Beta just couldn't get the big hit and somehow someway the astros have regained their and then you would have a situation of the best to audit three scenario so this is gonNA be interested some people have said this is the world series sure anymore because Washington is that good and as playing so well so here we are the Astros up uh home field advantage by winning in the Bronx and now they're up to two one here's the only caveat and the tough part of weather is expect war learn more at discover dot com slash match that's discovered dot com slash match it's time for the pocket discover matches all the cash back you earn at the end of your first year automatically dollar for dollar with no limit on how much you can earn amazing it's so amazing and what could happen there that could give the Yankees an advantage because they're so deep and their bullpen is so deep so that's the only thing that of one of those powerhouse teams in the AL taking on the Washington nationals. Hey It's rob Parker from the couple WanNa hear something amazing millions of people a year are getting cash back met you get the cash back and then even more cash to match discover cash back match what are you waiting one Janki is looking at it and get back Omic I can't wait to watch the rest of the series I think it will be compelling and we will have getting a big leagues for is it fair and now protector central the analytic numbers you need to know well maybe F S One's Anthony Master's name BS analytics is Career Shadow League dot COM MLB INSIDER JR gambled former MLB slugger calls take a look at the Yankees obviously are not out of this series as well they did what they needed to do which was the win a game in Houston all they need is the equalizer in game four you know surprise Rob Mariano Rivera is far and away the leader since nineteen ninety five with a postseason win probability added of eleven point five overall live Mo- at one big PAPI number two Fox's on Albert pools Andy Pettitte and probably addition Wade Davis who made his money with that trend he wants to manage but he only wants to interview in consider one job that's for the New York Metropolitans at this point number two the Houston Astros who have survived game one the top three teams this week number three the New York aw eat more than the next closest player David Ortiz as World Series Wpa of one point eight is by far the highest in that regard as well Dan Hirsch a web developer at sports reference has developed a new type of win probability added for postseason in a wildcard era and the names on the top of the list are the ones you would only player even remotely close to mow is Madison Bumgarner who comes in with a world series. WPA of one point two but the clutches five players in the playoffs since ninety not the cubs not the padres Jr is if foul or fair for a guy with no experience to dictate what job he wants a no besides I think he's a great Fit New York fasten your seatbelt back here comes against the Yankees yes the Astros as we speak are the second best team left in the postseason number one dodgers are predicted the beat the cardinals but I didn't think it would be this easy who knew that they could dominate the cardinal earlier is throughout the season that doesn't bring up is the moment when it takes to be the most clutch and we're seeing it right now the postseason but that may be changing it's fair in this case it's fair for most coaching candidates especially one of the color any jobs a good job was this much sweep them in four games dominate with pitching get big hits timely hits right now no one's playing L. C. S. they have one an impressive game one have lost the last two so the Yankees are the third best team left in the playoffs a four hundred homeless hundreds still guy who performed great you know with the met with the exception of that adder Wayne right curve ball he had a great career there in game two and then they go into the Bronx and shut down the big bats with Garrett Cole and take a two to one lead probably expect so basically what does have you forgot as measure how much a player increased or decreased their team's chances of winning a championship now even with a game seven loss on his so that was a special assistant with the Yankees so we understand New York and the coke family lived in New York and I doubt he wants to pick up right now teigen while the cubs jobs the prime job it doesn't fit for Beltran and the project job well might as well give him any Machado he's the only one to buy this motto if I'm writing I'm rippin let's bring in a writer a broadcaster older new now let's welcome to the PODCAST Gangqi all year I've talked about them being the number one team and they're in the top three but at right now at this point down to two one in the and yes the Washington nationals I said that they would make it to the world series I predicted them to be spall. This week's winner is Ed's slow shower and he tweeted this so enjoying the game with the volume off in baseball in the Washington nationals they are the best team left in the postseason as we speak shutout at home have belts back with two big wins against the Yankees to take the lead in the best of seven series of course they had the big walk off his game what do you got for Sanity I rob annoying talking about win probability added on a podcast before using win probability grasp out of how clutch stories I figured that they would be the dodgers worst nightmare because of the pitching and now any teams worst nightmare Erin Hayes the sports director and main sports anchor for W USA in Washington DC and a good close friend of mine he wants to go there and Beltran was desperate it's the job of taking he'd be nuts not to do it but teams thinking him out so he has leverage to say yes because the pitching is so good talk about Stephen Strasburg and what he's been able to do he now has the third lowest postseason era in history it's time for trash talk twitter with your chance to trash anyone or anything in major league town especially when you talk about baseball that has seen a lot of sad and disappointing moments had their hearts broken the Joe Buck is unbearable listened to wow I think you're pretty good if you want a chance to win a new era snapback hat and what's happening just just enjoying this moment man what a what an amazing run by the national I mean what on May twenty third with the second the mets fans just don't let them down this might be a chance for him to gain some redemption also is baseball accurate experiences great and he's already going into the eighth inning and Max Scherzer did the same thing going into the seventh and of course those twelve strikeouts by by by Stephen Strasburg that's a procedure career high years old today how about that as a birthday gift if you can get it done so everybody's just super excited everybody knows this is GonNa be a great experience with the city like Addie singer trash to at Rob Parker at one on twitter when rob was a newspaper columnist he lived with the one point one zero era Stephen Strasburg I mean it did do it has been a beast entire postseason I mean but let's look at it Imagine Darren Net losing harper starting out nineteen and thirty one and they would be on the cusp of a world series cardinals and what they did of course against the dodgers I mean speaks volumes about this team how about the whole atmosphere in DC this is the worst record in the National League who would expect this team to now be just on the doorstep of the world series no doubt about it and there's so many great twenty fifteen royal gained city my man Anthony Thank you appreciate you that was a big week he pulled guarded there are people just enjoying the moment that will definitely now they're enjoying the moment I think everyone in their bob and dog here in DC AH project that may be a eighteen year plan but I'm working on it the Washington nationals what a story that's great for baseball who could courageous people and world shaking events here's historian Molly mcgarry air were always many spiritualism 's both in the nineteenth century and beyond skewered we'll trace the path of the spiritualists to follow the Voice of Andrew Jackson Davis over the course of the nineteenth century spiritualism became a kaleidoscope of novel beliefs seven series so everyone knows that the nationals are GonNa make the world series it's just only a matter of time everybody wants to do it today but I was walking in the ballpark people give me high five market until I got there

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