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"albert bender" Discussed on Oh Behave! Podcast

Oh Behave! Podcast

02:56 min | 3 months ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Oh Behave! Podcast

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"albert bender" Discussed on Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

08:36 min | 1 year ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

"And military paranormal twitch. Youtube lost all twitter instagram. Go Yeah and it's all sitting right here in front of me come on out and so when we left you guys before the commercial ray we kind of gave you a little bit of history on on men in black if you want. Yep you know in kind of all started You know back in nineteen forty seven with a couple of guys and then went up. Albert Bender was probably the most I guess. Wide known episode of men in Black Kinda came around and then kind of get into some of the weird ask where we think of the movie stereotypes if you will came from so now what I kinda wanted to say is is a little bit about what some people that encountered men in black and probably the most common course there wearing the black suits black cats They draw black cars. They might be wearing sunglasses. Some descriptions say that they cannot have just kinda like black is almost like black eyed kids if you will are they or their faces faces really expressionless Kind of cold deep is if you will. They're scanning said to be real plastic or Pale or maybe even a tan or greenish color and they of they said that they they've talked very most reports that they talked very monotone. Almost robotic are sent that sounding and that. They're very cold and expressionless. When when they're trying to talk to you most people have said that that's had a minute blackened counter where somebody's came knocking on their door. They'll have like a ufo siding they turn in their report and then the next day somebody shows up at their door knocking on their door. Couple of one of the things I want to say is if you really really WANNA learn about men in black you can go Check OUT. Nick redfern's books he's written that. I I don't know I know at least three but again I can't financially. Keep up with the knicks books because he puts them out so fast. So the There's some several good descriptions in there but what some of the stories you know. Say that they'll be they'll go. They'll be outside in the front yard and income in the house and don't make it ten steps in and when they opened the door the black cars in the driveway and the guys are standing at the door. And they're like how did that? How did that just happen? It's only been a second you know. And then when they go to leave they will. They'll just be gone like they'll shut the door behind them and then instantly step over to a window in peak out of the window to see if they're leaving and they're gone. They're not like still driving off. I mean you're talking a second and then they're they're gone but most people think that they have some sort of almost ominous feeling soon as they appear. They have like this ominous dread feeling. And they'll have that for a couple of days after after that they'd had a visit by the men in black Do have an account here. that we found on read it and he said This guy was talking about how it he had gone out to Joshua Tree National Park with a few friends they were looking at the stars and they witness a couple of glowing blue. Ufo's Going really fast speeds and they couldn't believe it was going on. They try to take a photo but they just moved to fast on the drive back home. They talked about what they had witnessed and then they noticed a black car following them from a distance and then a switch lanes trying to lose it and wherever they went the car followed and then as they glanced in the In the mirror again they looked up and then looked back in the rear view mirror and the car was gone the next day. They ran a few errands and went when they went home and then when they went back to their house there was a black cadillac parked in the driveway. He said he tried to convince himself that. It wasn't the same black car following but he just as gut told him otherwise when he got out of the car to men in black and matching black suits light gray dress shirts black ties and black the doors approached and asked if they could ask me a few questions about what I witnessed the night before. I ask them who they were an sec some credentials. They claim that they worked for a division of the US Air Force their appearance Looked only what they describe as plastic and expressionless and they both had Appel all of skin tone they spoke in a raspy monotone voice and their speech was very precise almost sounding synthetic downside very cold intense glaze. Some of the questions they asked. Where can you describe what you saw last night? What do you think you saw? Did you take any photos of what you witnessed? Were there others? Who might have had a recording device or camera? Do you know if anyone recorded the incident. Have you spoken about the incident with anybody else in? Did you find unusual debris at the location you were at? And would you be withholding any important information from US and says of? He didn't answer the questions. Honestly any did withhold a lot of information as to what he saw and who he was with. They ended their questioning. Bhai strongly advising him from to refrain from talking about what he witnessed with anyone. Forget the incident ever happened. They also strongly implied they would be keeping an eye on me in case I. They decided to ignore their demands. After the encounter I had this constant ominous feeling for a while and always looked over my shoulder wherever I went That's basically a typical men in black siding. It's almost to the T. Of How many bike sightings go. I mean. Of course there are several variations and things like that some of the thing uncomfortable around like a microwave oven are. They're uncomfortable around. They'll keep looking at their watch and Just certain things kind of set them off and they almost have some witness accounts that I've read talk about how they almost like a a you know blackout kids right. Where when they're asking you questions. You're almost just kind of going along with what they're saying. Almost like you're being mind controlled if you will but for the most part most of those sightings are that. That was to the T. sighting of of men in black encounter I if you look out there. There's there's a tremendous amount of the of those of those sightings. I Allison was talking about it when we signed up. She kinda wants to go out and start saying she saw some so she can try to have an experience. But you know it's funny because I've read several authors. That talked about how they didn't believe it. They were only doing research and writing on it and then the next day or they'll build a couple of days later they'll be somewhere and they'll have almost they don't know if it was rather like their mind playing tricks on them they'll see like a black. Suv parked out with people watching him. And that sort of stuff. So it's a It's a little a little interesting so on on that I wanted to see if we can lead into what you guys actually think our is before we do that. I may have a way to play the audio of the men in black encounter that I was talking about so I'm trying it. Hopefully you guys can hear it so I'm going to try if it doesn't work then we'll would you wanted to do my cooker if this works. Sure this is not a loud doing line in so it should work. So let's go ahead and do you can hear me now right. Yes okay you may not be able to hear me is switching to the other side okay. That.

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"albert bender" Discussed on Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

15:55 min | 1 year ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Military Paranormal Investigations Podcast

"Sorry keep going. The enlisting has bailed out the other Brown Davidson actually crashed with with aircraft and were killed right and I found out doing some more research that what happened. Is that the two enlisted. We're able to grab parachutes along with the officers Grad the parachutes to but right after the enlisted wing broke off and threw it into a big spin so the other two officers got thrown into the tail section. And they couldn't make it to the jumpsuit. Which is why they went down that you which again kind of comes into play as a big conspiracy theory exactly the People said that they heard anti aircraft guns when the plane right before the plane crashed So that was kind of a story that a lot of newspapers and in the reason I believe the FBI it was investigating but then people started saying that they were doing that to cover up the story you're saying that the FBI launched their own investigation to cover up everything. Well that's where some of the theories end up going but whenever once the once the palace died the Air Force. Of course they took on the investigation and a little more seriously so they present more people and then the also launched an investigation because of everything that was going on around with it but the air force of course said that what you were saying about the Tailspin and there was a fire. Some some issues. The engine caught fire. The plane went down and then it it crashed the I guess the stories that they were they were saying is is when the FBI came through. They said that the the pieces of metal on the on the they said the same thing that the air force did and then they said that like they investigated the boat in the damage to the boat and they were saying that their stories were inconsistent and they couldn't find any metal on the on the beach right And so what they said is that they. They said that the samples that were there like slag from a metal smelter kind of for some steel production or something like that and that they basically wrote it. They came up with this story in order to have publicity for a magazine article which again later on one of the other characters in the story goes on to produce fate magazine which was one of the leading paranormal conspiracy magazines for many many many many years and so they the FBI when they when they came out and said that they told them that that they're hoax basically wasn't gonNA go over and if they drop them or the when prosecute them for fabricating A fraud because he is altered in the death of those two officers right so the because their story was fraudulent in the officers came out to investigate than they died but if they backed off of their story they wouldn't prosecute them for the death of the two officers which is kind of get where they were going with that but there. It's almost like they use that at that point in time to say hey telling your story. Because they if they if they wanted to pursue the matter even further they could have said. Hey we'll know they were on your best game because this is what we found But again at the time to we've talked about this in the past two at the time to the government wasn't seen so much like it is nowadays with everything being conspiracy or political at that point in time coming off of World War. Two our government. Was you know in high esteem? So I you know there was a different mindset in people back during that time and so basically they came out and said that they they came out and said Hey. Our stories were fake And then they quit giving interviews Danny Body and then but later on yeah. Christmas came out and said that the incident did happen. And Kenneth Arnold mentioned maury Allen in his fifty two book the coming up saucers which was about his story Of what will you know what he witnessed over major in Mount Rainier and most people today believe that Christmas lately faked it? And then they started a hopes to kind of get some publicity. And then it just snowballed and went out of hand but a lot of other people believed that the government was behind the conspiracy and it could have been. Ufo's to What they might have actually seen was dumping of nuclear waste and puget sound A. That's what they were dropping out of these ships which doesn't make any sense to me because we didn't have any I mean unless they were really Like airships or something. That was hauling. This out I mean what what wouldn't have anything now right. That's what I mean. What kind of aircraft would that would have would have gone into that? But nothing that they believe that the government sabotage the bomber to get rid of the investigators and then they blamed all in order to have them dropped their story. And that's basically where that was talking about earlier on that deal right which is probably why they kept saying that. The men in black were the ones who were saying. Dome you're GonNa Forget this. And then to tied in with his son ever no yeah. Yeah so allison. You're listening. I am learning. There's so much there's so much stuff on this it in this is kind of where it starts but there's so much stuff that really goes in. You really went off and a rabbit hole on this. Oh could it gets really really really deep. So let's talk about the space brothers. Yeah I mean it's there's a tremendous amount of stuff on this and and earlier you know I'm trying to I want to make sure I'll try to get some of the the story straight But you know to to not mislead because so much stuff that is kind of hard to keep track of some of that at times decorating especially with it going back and forth to them saying that they were trying to do it and then they sent the story to Chicago to try and get publicity then. They started this fundraising thing. I Dunno different so there was. I wanted to pull up this. Let me see if I can pull this up it. Probably the most popular of the men in black originators was Albert Bender. Yeah he was the victim of the silence group right right and so basically in nineteen fifty. Two Albert Bender formed a group called the international flying saucer bureau which is Sp. And I think this was kind of in response to a lot of stuff that was going on with like project. Blue Book and some of those things so some of the earlier in my mind is blank right now but some of the earlier conceptions of that group and so he joined this more as a public thing to kind of get. I guess more information out there and took off. I mean people were turning in stories and doing all this sort of stuff and then all of a sudden a year later he just to shut it down and then basically he comes out and says that basically the reason he shut it down. Is that these three men in black had came to him and told them basically everything there was to know about. The UFO mystery what was going on. What the real story was behind it. But then they turned his they turned his world upside down and they know they threatened him. And I guess. Didn't they threaten the spackling? Yeah they threatened everything Threatened his company that that group did he did the people in the group they were running everybody which is why probably just left. It couldn't take it no more he just left and I think he came out later on in in in kind of talked about it some more later on lap. And then he had like another men in black Episode or something to it And I don't know you said you didn't WanNa talk about the space brothers but being the space cells could be. I mean for those of you. Don't know space brothers is a of different aliens from the different planets such as Venus Mars and earth and it was like a coalition of them trying to protect earth from pretty much destroying itself. And that's where the space brothers come into play so everyone is trying to deny that's ever happening basically would buy really. WanNa get into. But it's I don't know that those aren't getting in some of the more far fetched. Yeah theories of it but I do think that I do want to back up. Just a second in nineteen seventy five ufologist John Keel. Wrote wrote a very popular book. He did yes. And this is probably where the determining black was coined from. I think this is probably one of the more important so being his. If you're into the paranormal and you don't jong-kil is there's You need to definitely read the book. Yeah you definitely want to look into some of that but you know what the book was called. Allison do you WanNa take a guess? It's a very popular movie. Men in black. I don't know if you've seen this one. But it's the Mothman prophecies so that's where John Keel kind of coined the term in black. I guess put it out more imprint. And some of his books and things and that's where the mini block actually came from. But you don't kill probably was the most widely known in the general spectrum of things by being the author of the Mothman Prophecies which came later. And who was that in that movie? That was My mind is in c Richard Richard Gere. Yes rich here and Anyway great movie. If you haven't ever seen this good of the history of the bridge going down great. I enjoyed that movie completely. It's a it's so then. After all this came out in the that was in the seventies there was a lot of talk about the men in black is that went on and then in the eighties. It just really took off and that's more of more of the Space Brothers kind of came in and ends is I guess what they call him the sauce. Yeah ever the saucer weren't they? Were the ones the enforcers of the silence group. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I can't remember which one amid sleep. I got it in the notes here. Yeah they were associated with the international banking interest to that group they sought to stifled the Technol- technological advances and reform. The space brothers wanted to bestow on the Earth Link so basically the space brothers wanted to give us all these things and they didn't want us to have them right. Do you remember how the what was the deal about the grace with the they were? The grace came later in the space. Brothers were trying to protect us from as because the grades what they said and this relievers name was John Lear. But the grays apparently came down to try to control. Us duddy. It's an even eat us. So that's where the space brothers were trying to protect us. Because in order to get the technology degrades gave US technology and in return we the president and I some reason it true just comes out but I don't think it was. Truman gave the graze permission. To abduct human beings experiments on them and even eat some of them too. So that's where that came about with the grays There there's a bunch of stories but the grace that's the one that sticks to mine we'll see and that's that's kind of Parque. I think it was trained in in. That's where the the base in New Mexico in the mountains Roswell no on the other side of area fifty one yes my mind is like I remember. Just a second. But yes that's where they have the underground base. That's what they do. The experiments there's been stories. Come out of the you know. Come out of there. But yes that's where so where they came out of that is so there are stories of men in black not only being in like black suits and being like FBI agents But there's a lot of stories of them being almost alien ask yes like not having ears or having bury expressionless faces and they're very quirky face sometimes right and when they talk to you they don't they don't Like Dell ask a question. It's almost like I think Ariel in the Little Mermaid when she's talking you know the fork. She's combing her hair when the they don't or what the right terminology or the right use of things are shows are very kind of quirky so people have said that's maybe the men in black are actually a race of aliens that are trying to keep it secret and that's where the space brothers comes in. Because they're here to help US PROTECT US. So they're trying to dispel the information that we don't or information out there and So yeah it's It kinda gets weird. I know when John Lear gets involved is when it gets way weird to me. Because that's where you start getting into I'm actually my mind. I'M GONNA look up the name of that base real quick. Look at my mind mom. My mind is so And I can't believe we. We had that in the notes area fifty one that we did Come on Alison. You should know it. You know with all say Dulcie there yes anyway. I don't know why my mind. That's one of my favorite tales. But I don't know why my mind went blank on that So Yeah John. Lear was a pilot. He flew aircraft for our CIA company. SCI linked to company. And that's where it is that a secret government controls the world and they runs like international drug traded unleased AIDS and other diseases. The traffic control population right.

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"albert bender" Discussed on BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

10:12 min | 1 year ago

"albert bender" Discussed on BSP: Believer Skeptic Podcast

"I was like Ugh. So you talked about Albert Bender Right. The Guy who kicked off the whole men in black or you're he's the one that went fishing trip his dog all that stuff. Yeah and so he. Apparently you know well. He got too close to the phenomenon he was visited by men in black and according to our episode. There would basically discourage you from actually given up like they went. There would discourage you from proceeding with looking into your F. O. SIGHTINGS. They wanted to quit there were like. Nancy drew's enemies when he heard it back off a case so he actually didn't heed their warnings or anything. Well whenever he refused to give up he got head splitting migraines severe stomach pains faintness issues a short term memory and he finally gave in quit and whenever he did the symptoms went away and he lived to the ripe old age of ninety four so our second one shadow man in August nineteen eighty-two Scary Yeah Shadow people are so scary in nineteen eighty two robby Carter. Who was fourteen? At the time was living. With his parents. In England he had a traumatic encounter with what he described as a flat black colored shadow which crawled on the bedroom ceiling. So during this encounter but thank you. Yeah right robby encountered about of sleep paralysis inside. The room suddenly smelled like dirt. Robbie was immediately then hospitalized with meningitis. It was fortunate that it was caught so quickly and he made a recovery but it came from out of nowhere the next one black guy children one of the topics you love say black eyed peas black eyed peas. So fergus showed up and she gave you lumps the as yet the black-eyed kids so Jim Fort had an encounter with the black eyed children in two thousand eight in Florida. At the time he and his wife were living in a rented duplex. Outside of Orlando what happened. Well there was a knock on the door late at night and she wore like children waiting for years. I children by died. Did you say like children accident? I know that was a total gym and having peered through the spy hole in the front door to kids and black hoodies both staring at the ground. He tentatively open the door and was confronted by a pair of Pale face. Black eyed what he said where monsters who were staring at him no. He slammed the door and never saw them again but immediately after he experienced a severe case of dizziness followed by nosebleeds. Nope then three weeks later. After feeling repeatedly sick Russian shaky. He was diagnosed with diabetes. Something like that is crazy. So they happened to all. These happened so quickly so soon after the encounter and they have none of these symptoms before and the final one number four slender man. Oh fuck no yeah. Is it like all the scariest ones we've done in January of twenty seventeen and just two days after having graphic about the slender man? Michelle of Nova Scotia. Canada was hospitalized with colitis which she had never had before she made a recovery but was shaken by the timing which she firmly believed and still believes was connected to the skinny monster of her nightmare. Slender men so I think she believes that he kind of came as a warning. Kind of a precursor. Like I'm making you sick bitch. So those are the four the four people who became sick because of paranormal incidents. So all right the you got my first story takes us to Italy. My heart genuinely goes out to everyone there at this time. Yes the story is not meant to be sensitive to what is going on. But it's did show that this is not the first time something like this has happened there. Unfortunately that's wild. I have not which is talk about but I'm sure it's wild. I'm talking about Po- vaguely island and one of the biggest pandemics in history known as the black death or the black plague the first round of the black death wiped out around seventy five two hundred million people across Europe and Asia gone. It's insane in the mid fourteenth century. It said that it killed a around thirty. To sixty percent of Europe's population impossibly reduced the world population by one hundred million people at that time. That's crazy. The disease was caused by bacteria in fleas. That were often found on rodents on the ships. They would come so in Italy. There's a small island in the northern part of between Venison Lido called publicly island residents fled the island during the war in thirteen seventy nine and stayed desolate for some time. So finally in seventeen seventy six. The island was again utilized as a checkpoint for all people and goods that traveled to and from Venice by ship to ensure that no disease would pass through in Seventeen. Seventy six wild. So it's interesting thing like that's whenever we were getting our independence and so the plague was a thing then interesting. The plague had hit Many Times following the initial black plague one of these times was in seventeen ninety three in Italy when there are several cases onto different ships going through that checkpoint as a result Pa- vaguely island was turned into a quarantine station known as a Lotta until eighteen. Fourteen side. Note the word quarantine actually derives from the Italian phrase. What does your knee? Which means forty days? The amount of days ill people were put on the island before being allowed to leave. If they were healthy oh no way. Oh quote yeah. That's interesting. I had no idea any of the people who did not survive. The illness were buried in mass graves on the island. And in some cases incinerate it is said that because of the amount of bodies that were burnt on the island the soil. There now is estimated to be around fifty percent ash and to this day human bones will still occasionally wash up on shore essentially following the plague buildings on the island were used to house the quote. Insane fucking word you know. That's what they said back then. It has said that in the asylum. There was a doctor that experimented on many of the patients in brutal and of course unethical ways sure such as lobotomies against the patient's will following the asylum closure the buildings on the island were used as long term care facilities thankfully all were shut down in nineteen sixty eight. The Island was briefly used for growing crops after that but since then it has been completely abandoned it is completely closed off making it illegal for people to even go there so now they have a condensed history of the place. I will tell you some stories and rumors about this island. Each so that Dr performed experiments on patients car came to bite him in the ASS. It said that he started to be hunted. Ghosts seeing shadows and hearing strange voices and because of this doctor was either mysteriously thrown off or threw himself off the bell taller. Oh my God a nurse was seen. This happen reported that the doctor didn't initially die but instead of mysterious mist head surrounded him violently choked him to death. It was her rumor has it has remains were then bricked up in the walls of the asylum ocean. That's a terrible place to put them. The island was has been up for sale a couple times since its desertion. The entire island yet. Oh my gosh. Well the first time. It was quickly abandoned without any 'cause. Oh Wow after that. A family plan to build a vacation home. They're also deserted it and they would say why. It was rumored though that the daughter of the family had had her face cut open by a mysterious force requiring fourteen stitches. Holy Shit like any place with such a dark history. Many people that have gone to the island have immediate feelings of dread despair and fear somebody being reported to hear the tortures MOANS screams of the deceased and also hear the ringing of the bell in the Bell Tower. Where no one is. That would be the scariest others yet. Have reported going to the island despite the law only to hear a voice tongue and to leave and never come back. Even though it's illegal to visit it is possible to permit with tons of paperwork. Oh my gosh but good luck finding a boat that will take you there or at least an inexpensive vote. You know in two thousand nine. Our FAVORITE SHOW GHOST ADVENTURES. What they're and had their own experiences. If you want to see the island from the comfort of your own home you can do so on Google Earth. I actually look at it really. Is it cool? I'M GONNA go look at it. Haunted or not no one can really say but considering gets murky and tragic past. It probably should be. Wow so if you go there all that stuff is still there. You just ooh. That's super creepy. I'm imagining like have you been using house hunters right Have you seen the newer island? Hunters were super rich. People actually buy islands or home like and so they actually show it. It's amazing amazing. Someone going there and being like well. Let's look at this island in that woman's voice she's like which one are they going to choose the hunted horror or that'd be amazing. Wow that's super creepy and it's a great. I guess like story because mine is kind of related and so it'll be neat to kind of compare the two. Yeah so there's one I'm going to be talking to you about waverly hills sanatorium in. Kris knows a little bit about this. I think goes to veggies also went there. Oh did they really okay. I'm going to do like you did is. I'm going to share some history. I because I think it's so interesting. And then we'll get into Petra. Nomo so during the eighteen hundreds and early nineteen. Hundreds America was ravaged by a deadly disease known as the white death or to Berkeley up this terrifying and very contagious plague for which no cure existed claimed entire families and sometimes entire towns in One Thousand Nine Hundred Louisville Kentucky had the highest Tuburculosis death-ray in America. Yeah built on low swampland. The area was the perfect breeding ground for the disease. So basically it was like it was just ripe with to take Mitch McConnell. All right no kidding. Oh I'm not wishing death. Yeah we don't want anyone to die but it's still. He's still quad so in one thousand nine hundred ten. A hospital was constructed on.

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"albert bender" Discussed on OC Talk Radio

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"You're listening to the next chapter with Charleena's Charlie hedges and I'm speaking speaking today with my Special Guest Corey Livingstone who is a musician and an executive coach and he's written a quite interesting book titled Quiet Determination Unlocking the gates to unlimited limited success. Now we've been talking about accountability and what it would it talks what what it means to be accountable to yourself have accountability to others not not falling lean into the victim mentality but falling into the mentality that I can't take charge of my life and and <hes> this is all under quiet determination which I just love that Title I have a second question for you corey and and it and it comes comes from your book and I think <hes> This this second topic is essential forgetting what you want out of life in it's quite simple and you have pointed out to me in our in previous discussion that you must believe in yourself and that <hes> as you called in the chapter in your book m. i.. Good enough accepting the challenge. I think that self doubt is one of the most disabling disabling thoughts that prevents from taking the risk and having the courage to pursue our dreams. Do you have any suggestions for because so many people have self doubt and and and as you pointed out to me earlier you know we live in a culture that promotes self doubt that that promotes failure in that you're not good enough and so it's very difficult to rise above that to believe in yourself so do you have what kinds of suggestions would you have for. Someone tried to overcome self-doubt self-doubt from my experience something that's been bread into. You and I'm thinking it's it's from usually from could be either from your peers. Somebody in authority like your parents like your parents. Why can't you be like this? You're no good <hes> constant criticism. I know you're you're too fat. You're too skinny to this. Why wanted to do this <hes> so when you're when you're small you know the old saying as a sapling is bent so grows the tree so I believe a lot of that comes from early childhood you have to interrupt right not to say that my son decided very young he was he was he was really young? <hes> five six seven when he decided he wanted to be a professional baseball player but by the time he was ten it was set he wanted nothing else to do than to be a professional baseball player and he a crude the mental disciplines to do that and that's all he did was work on that but you know what we did is parents instead of saying <hes> <hes> you know that's a that's an impossible goal. It's one out of a million that make that goal. We didn't tell him that we we kept him involved in many things so it wasn't only involved in baseball but we highly supported ended his efforts in baseball and and gave him opportunities and I think you know it's one of the few things I'm proud of that. I think Y- you know we encouraged him to pursue that dream that he had as a young child and and here he is playing professional baseball for the San Diego padres now oh congratulations congratulations see that's the quite determination. That's act like patience. Can I think I can just get support from others rather than the negative feedback. Oh come on no one can. You'RE NOT GONNA make you're not gonNa make the big leagues. No one can make that. That's just that's just too hard. We didn't say that but he it was a very gifted athlete so we knew we had you know. There was somewhere jeans exactly well. You know if you have they're all you have to do have to have the door material right so you know that's important important but that's only half the story and like you say the germination to do is the other half because there's lots of lots of talented bums out there you know yes there are and and and some of them them are actually have made it to the professional ranks but they've not achieved the degree to success the degree of success that they could achieve had they had these mental disciplines this belief in theirself that they can accomplish more than what they're accomplishing right now and so they did have the job half their potential you know and and talking about the support a a lot of people do have self-doubt to that very thing like you mentioned you come up with a great idea went into this under that and then people right away start raining on your parade and we're sort of <hes> that happens a lot. I think shut your life and that's probably another source of people who Latte who lacks self-confidence. We all be well. There's nobody has never been <hes> not confident about something. There's always something you've been COM <hes> very uncomfortable about doing but that doesn't mean you can't do it doesn't mean you can't try riot because after after you get going you know the confidence comes okay. Of course you're not GONNA be. You're not going to be a brain surgeon. <hes> on your first day a high school. Okay that's NC Z. But if you work eventually you just might be one you know an and you may not attend you you you may not you may not achieve your ultimate goal for instance. I had a friend who at thirty years old decided addity wanted to be a professional golfer and he was not a very good golfer at the time and everybody sort of laughed at invite I didn't I said go forward. You know you know that's what you WanNa do do it well. He never made the professional the any of the major professional tours but you know what he is cory is. He's a scratch Golfer right now. He can play golf with the best of them so he didn't attain that dream of being a professional golfer but he attained dream of being an outstanding Golfer. You know one that you have a hard time competing with so so even though he perhaps said his goal to high it was <hes> it I don't know if it was too high or not but it was the appropriate appropriate goal for him to accomplish and and he believed himself and he worked and he did all the mental disciplines all the physical disciplines and he worked to make himself a tremendous golfer. This is in my book. I call self efficacy. Eh recalling reading about that. It's the mother of self confidence <hes> as a FI carcass name Albert bender the one of the book he wrote People's level of motivation effective states and actions are based more on what they believe then what is objectively the case so what that means in if you have enough enough self harm you believe in your you may be like your friend you know a Lousy Golfer in the end comparatively but he's be believes that allows you but he's not professional no professional though he was lousy uh-huh yeah you but he believed he could right and that's where that quite determination. I I think I can do it. If I work hard enough and whatnot not I can do it and that's where the that's where you learn. That's what you learn stuff and and and actually get bit that you can believe and you work on you know. It's not as you believe it. I'M GONNA put at that belief under the pills and wake up to more than I'll be there so it's that self efficacy that yes I believe in myself okay and that's where the people who have <hes> maybe lack the self confidence they don't believe in themselves ourselves and <hes> we're we're constantly being criticized aren't we. Yes constantly being criticized Yes for trying to do things and and the bottom line is fear of failure failure. We've been trained right through school. You WanNa get passing marks. You great remarks right. Oh you gotta be not too bad. You Got D not good enough field. You know we're constantly trade. We must not fail when the when the opposite is true. Failure is not a disgrace failure. least you find out what works and what doesn't work you find out the truth from falsehood could you they all say they say you can't come back and they should go away so <hes> we're trained to stay away from Philly and that's why people keep themselves on the Oh. No I'm not doing you can't do that because they're afraid to feel because we've been trained yeah and that's what that's where we find successful businesses are into what is being called fast failures and that is you know go going out and and attempting something new and fresh in a creative idea and if it works or if it begins to work they can they can build upon it but if it looks like it's like it's not going to <hes> achieved the the the determined goal they will get out of it quickly and so that's so that's that's that's experimenting that that's trying. That's that's going out and doing something and believe in something and if it doesn't work okay okay. Let's move on to something that does <hes> that is. That's what life is all about. It's not it's not a series of successes. It's a series of <hes> of finding out I like. I like the you know the very common <hes> from the very common. I can't think of his name I can never remember his name who invented the Light Bulb Thomas Edison when he had a thousand ways that people said you know you've tried to a thousand ways days and this doesn't work and he says all I've done it said I've discovered a thousand ways. It won't work and so I now I know other ways to try exactly and speaking of th there's a there's a way to start right building your self confidence. Oh Great <hes> you know like I say things it takes what's ships in motion picture huge ship ocean liner. It can't do one hundred eighty degree turn right right away and it has to slow down has to make a gradual turn so when you're changing when you're trying to change your mind it's it's just it's a series of little steps so what you what you can do is <hes> sit down and brainstorm rainstorm which yourself and you list all the challenges at all the things that might stop you whatever the behavior of the task is now. I so Sir I. Person says the I haven't got enough self confidence to this ain't even got enough soft conferencing myself okay right right right them down brainstorm. I can't do this because because you know I was called all the name of his left out. My parents forgot me at the restaurant this happened. I've been you wouldn't you see all those things and then then you look at them and and even if fits it could be like for challenges that can't do and then look at and rates yourself. Whatever's rates you on a US two zero to ten or honored and put a a give assign each challenger task or behavior a number and you'll be able to arrange them in a in a sliding sore prior a prioritization Reuters ation? Yes excellent and then take a good look at them and just see. Is that really the truth you know so it's starting to look <hes> yourself because people say have I can't do it. I'm afraid or what tell me why why can't you. They don't know why do they. They just it's a knee jerk reaction but if you look back if they if they can lay these things other than sterry them in the hi right they may have a second opinion in safety I across that all this sounds to me like something else you mentioned in your book you have <hes> you have a series of fabulous quotes in your your book that I will use in my writing <hes> but <hes> one of the book comes from Albert Einstein and you quoted him a sane logic will get you from A._D._p.. The imagination will take you everywhere. Logic will get you from step aid step e but it's imagination that's going to take everywhere and I'm I'm a straw adhere to imagination and curiosity <hes> ah how how do you see imagination and curiosity in impacting our goals in our success in our dreams.

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"albert bender" Discussed on OC Talk Radio

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15:02 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on OC Talk Radio

"You're listening to the next chapter with Charlie Charlie hedges and I am speaking Kim today with my special guest Corey Livingstone who is a musician and an executive coach and he's written a quite interesting book titled Quiet Determination Unlocking the gates to unlimited limited success now we've been talking about accountability and what it what it talks what what it means to be accountable to yourself have accountability to others not not falling into the victim mentality but falling into the mentality that I can't take charge of my life and and <hes> this is all under quiet determination which I just love that Title I have a second question for you cory and it and it and it comes from your book and I think <hes> The the second topic is essential forgetting what you want out of life and it's quite simple and you have pointed out to me in our previous discussion you must believe in yourself and that <hes> as you called in the chapter in your book. Am I good enough accepting the challenge. I think that self doubt is one of the most disabling labeling thoughts that prevent us from taking the risk and having the courage to pursue our dreams. Do you have any suggestions for because so many people have self doubt and and and and as you pointed out to me earlier you know we live in a culture that promotes self doubt that that promotes failure in that you're not good enough and so it's very difficult to rise above that to believe in yourself itself so do you have what suggestions would you have for. Someone tried to overcome self doubt well south doubt from my experience something that's been bred into. You and I'm thinking it's it's from usually from could be either from your peers. Somebody in authority like your parents parents like your parents. Why can't you be like this? You're no good <hes> constant criticism. I know you're you're too fat. You're too skinny or too this. Why don't did you do this? So when you're when you're small you know the old saying as a sapling is bent so grows the tree so I believe a lot of that it comes from early childhood. I have to interrupt right now to say that my son decided very young you know he was he he was he was really young. <hes> five six seven when he decided he wanted to be a professional baseball player but by the time he was ten it was set he wanted nothing else to do than to be a professional baseball player and he he accrued the mental disciplines to do that and that's all he did was work on that but you know what we did as parents instead of saying <hes> a you know that's a that's an impossible goal. It's one out of a million that make that goal. We didn't tell him that we we kept him involved in many things so he wasn't only involved in baseball but we highly supported did his efforts in baseball and and gave him opportunities than I think you you know it's one of the few things I'm proud of that. I think Y- you know we encouraged him to pursue that dream that he had as a young child and and here he is playing professional baseball for the San Diego padres now oh congratulations congratulations see that's the quite determination. That's act like patient I think they can. I think I can just get support from others rather than the negative feedback. Oh come on no one can. You'RE NOT GONNA make you're not gonNa make the big leagues. No one can make that. That's just that's just too hard. We didn't say that but he was is a very gifted athlete so we knew we had you know there. were somewhere jeans exactly well. You know if you have they're all you have to you. Do have to have the raw material right right so you know that's important morten but that's only half the story and like you say the germination to do is the other half because there's lots of lots of talented bums out there you know yes there are and and and some of them are are actually have made it to the professional ranks but they've not achieve the degree to success the degree of success that they could achieve had they had these mental disciplines this belief in theirself that they can accomplish more than what they're accomplishing right now and so they did have the job half their potential you know and and talking about the support a lot outta people do have self doubt to that very thing like you mentioned you come up with a great idea. I'm going to do this under that and then people right away start raining on your parade and we're sort of <hes> that that happens a lot. I think throat your life and that's probably another source of people who latte who lacks self confidence. We all be well. You know there's there's nobody has never been <hes> not confident about something. There's always something you've been con- <hes> very uncomfortable about doing but that doesn't mean you can't do it doesn't mean you can't try it because you know after after you get going you know the confidence comes okay of course you're not going to be. You're not going to be a brain surgeon. <hes> on your first day a high school. Okay that's NC eighty but if you work eventually you just might be one you know and and and you may not attend you you you you may not you may not achieve your ultimate goal for instance. I had a friend who at thirty years old decided they wanted to be a professional golfer and he was not a very good golfer at the time and everybody sort of laughed at him but I didn't. I said go forward. You know you know that's what you WanNa do do it well. He never made the the professional in the any of the major professional tours but you know what he is cory is. He's a scratch Golfer right now. He can play golf with the best of them so he didn't attain that dream of being a professional golfer but he attained the dream dream of being an outstanding Golfer. You know one that you have a hard time competing with so so even though he perhaps said his goal too high it was <hes> it I don't know if it was too high or not but it was the appropriate we go for him to accomplish and he believed in himself and he worked and he did all the mental disciplines all the physical disciplines and he worked to make himself a tremendous golfer. This is I from my book. I called self efficacy recalling reading about that. It's the mother of self confidence <hes> as a psychologist Albert Bender the one of the books he wrote People's level of motivation effective states and actions are based more on what they believe than what is objectively the case so what that means that if you have enough. Off Self conscious you believe in your you may be like your friend. You know a Lousy Golfer in the end comparatively but he's be- believes that allows you but he's not professional no professional he was lousy. Eh Relieved Yeah you but he believed he could right and that's where that quiet determination. I I think I can do it. If I work hard enough and whatnot I can do it and that's where the that's where you learn. That's what you learn stuff and and and actually get it that you can believe and you work on it. You know it's not as you believe it. I'm going to put that I believe under the pills and wake up tomorrow and then I'll be there so it's that self efficacy that yes I believe in myself okay and that's where the people who have <hes> maybe lacked self-confidence. They don't believe in themselves else and <hes> we're. We're constantly being criticized aren't we. Yes constantly being criticized Yes for trying to do things and and the bottom line is fear of failure failure. We've been trained right through school. You WanNa get passing marks. You WanNa get great eight marks right. Oh you gotta be not too bad. You Got D not good enough field. You know we're constantly trade. We must not fail when the when the opposite is true. Failure is not disgrace failure least you find out what works and what doesn't work you find out the truth from falsehood but they all say they say you can't come back and they should go away so <hes> we're trained to stay away from the and that's why people keep themselves on the Oh. No I'm not doing no you can't do that because they're afraid to feel because we've been trained yeah and that's what that's where we find successful businesses are into what is being called fast failures and that is you know go coin out and and attempting something new and fresh in a creative idea and if it works or if it begins to work they can they can build upon it but if it looks like it's like it's not going to <hes> achieve the the determined goal. They will get out of it quickly and so that's so that's that's that's experimenting that that's trying. That's that's going out and doing something and believe in something and if it doesn't work okay let's move onto something that does <hes> that is. That's what life is all about. It's not it's not a series of successes. It's a series of <hes> of finding out I like. I like the you know the very common <hes> <hes> the very common. I can't think of his name I can never remember his name who invented the Lightbulb Thomas Edison when he had a thousand ways that people said you know you've tried to a thousand ways he's and this doesn't work and he says all I've done and said I've discovered a thousand ways. It won't work and so I now I know other ways to try exactly and and speaking <hes> there's a there's a way to start building your self confidence. Oh Great <hes> you know like I say things it takes what's ships in motion picture huge ship and ocean liner. It can't do one hundred and eighty degree turn right wade has to slow down has to make a gradual turn so when you're changing when you're trying to change your mindset it's just it's a series of little steps so what you what you can do is <hes> sit down and brainstorm changed torn which yourself and you list all the challenges at all the things that might stop you whatever the behavior task is. Now I so Sir I who says the I haven't gotten enough self confidence to to do this or even got enough confidence in myself. Okay write write. Write them down brainstorm. I can't do this because because you know I was called the name of his left out. My parents forgot me at the restaurant this happened. I've been told you wouldn't you see all those things and then you then you look at them and and even if it's is it <hes> that could be for challenges that can't do and then look at and rate yourself. Whatever's rates you on a US zero to ten zero honored and put a <hes> <music> give assign each challenger task or behavior a number and you'll be able to arrange them in a in a sliding sore prior a prioritization organization? Yes excellent and then take a good look at them and just see. Is that really the truth you know and so it's starting to look at it yourself because people say I can't do it. I'm afraid or what tell me why why can't you. They don't know why do they. They just it's a knee jerk reaction but if you look back if they if they can lay these things other than sterry them in the eye by right they may have a second opinion and say no. I cross that off. This sounds to me like something else you mentioned in your book. <hes> you have a you have a series of fabulous quotes in your book that I will use in my writing <hes> but <hes> one of the book comes from Albert Einstein and you quoted him as sane logic will get you from A. to B.. Eh but imagination will take you everywhere. Logic will get you from step aid step e but it's imagination. That's going to take you everywhere and I'm I'm strong adhere to imagination and curiosity <hes> I how do you see imagination and curiosity in impacting our goals and our success in our dreams in life well..

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12:27 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"KFI AM six forty. We are back with Allen greenfield, author of several books is Facebook is linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. Allen, what's your personal feeling about UFO's? Are we being visited not throughout their word? They're not out there. And what do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that people are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from that time Mars was still considered remote spot, right? Well, it was a spot in the sky that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself. But are there extraterrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely, do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from. Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you photos, and the beings that are associated with them and cryptic and go send a number of other phenomena are are. Actually coming from a much closer to us than than let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must've learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have to bin space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about inter dimensional things, you're already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyperspace? I mean, I I understand the term. But basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe. Well, there are and that enables extraterrestrial travel. It also means that inter dimensional travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years, Georgia. Is is that at the very beginning of Ufology? And I don't go go back quite that far. I got actively involved in nineteen sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that the the awareness of the US phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than oh, these are just conventional phenomenon that are misunderstood are hoaxes or otherwise explained in conventional terms kind of the slide cop explanation for things the first thing that people jump to was belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen a UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think that there's a conventional explanation? Absolutely not. No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation and that sort of alluded to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts Ufologists, they pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because. They're they're convinced that these machines very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that they are from elsewhere in the known universe and for for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap, I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check your I hypothesize, but believe is something that seems to be out of the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl young was interested in in you, foes, it's not that he thought that they didn't have a some kind of objective existence. But the excitement over it was clearly a new era belief system with all of the trappings of a new. Religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and for few people had has. But I think we need to look beyond the ETA the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inner dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there's a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies. Because. Distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about the hypothesized that then maybe the two or the same thing. Inclination is to say, hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well there. There are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is a very key point about the way that I think because of the nineteen Fifty-three CIA panel on UFO's that concluded it really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you defined as real they were more concerned about the fact that in the the July nineteen fifty two cases, which by the way, it was the first one I've ever heard about which was my father saying block saucers over the Pentagon. And that just that was a great story. My little six year old ears. You know? So I must've been a born in into our. Reincarnation of a previous ufologist, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the warning systems that we had to protect us from Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not were overridden, by UFO cases during that period, the filter centers for the civilian the ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was you know, stated now, but was was useful tool back then and the the to the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was. Jammed every if we had been attacked that. Weekend. Would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines are jam radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that profit UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand involved, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant in. There was a communist under every rock. Yes. Communists under the rock where parents interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate fake UFO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over DC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up product UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my late friend. The gray Barker interpreted as the men in black. The problem with that theory. If you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born six at the time. I it's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keep showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it there men in black cases going back to antiquity. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents. Scare other scary private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses two minute block cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses either to you have okay. So cryptic cases are some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the blackout good show up at their door or slender man shows up or classically the three men in block. I look at this in depth naturally. I turn to the Albert bender case which tell us there. Well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two vet had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers. And he set up the believe it's called the international flying saucer bureau, it came and went before my time, but. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it for starting with grave markers. They knew too much about flying saucers which was published. Just a couple of years later. I believe in the nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about as if he were bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the bejesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about UFO's ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers and the three men some years later, but he didn't write it. Great Barker wrote, it it was what he got credit for. I guess well Barker didn't get credit for it. But he credited bender with it because it was bender story. But as as as published by gray Barker, and gray was a profound personnel. But he was also a bit of a trickster, and, you know, not to speak ill of the dead because he was one of my best friends. But he I I was told by multiple sources, maybe even by gray himself. You know, basically, he wrote the book, however, does it matter up bender moved to the west coast and was involved with classical music. He was involved with an orchestra. L A and he passed on just a couple of years ago..

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"albert bender" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

14:07 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on KTRH

"Are we being visited not they're out there? They're not out there. What do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that. People are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from well at that time Mars was still considered remote spot, right? Yeah. Well, it was a spot in the sky that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself. But are there extraterrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely, do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from. Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you foes, and the beings that are associated with them and quipped, it's and. Go send a number of other phenomena are are actually coming from a much closer to us than than let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must've learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have to be in space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about energy things, you're already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyper space? I mean, I I understand the term. But but it basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe wealth. There are and that enables. Extraterrestrial travel. It also means that energy will travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years. Georgia's is that at the very beginning of Ufology, and I don't go go back quite that far. I got actively involved in nineteen sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that that the the awareness of the US phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than all these are just conventional phenomena that are misunderstood are hoaxes or otherwise explained in conventional terms kinda the Cy cop. Explanation for things the first thing that people jump to was belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen a UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think that there's a conventional explanation for absolutely not? No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation, and I sort of alluded to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts Ufologists, they pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because they're they're convinced that these machines very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that they are from elsewhere in the known universe and for for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap, I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check sure I hypothesize, but belief is something that seems to be out of the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl. Young was interested in in you, foes, it's not that he thought that they didn't have some kind of objective existence, but the excitement over it was clearly a new era belief system and with all of the trappings of a new religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and four few people it has. But I think we need to look beyond the ETA the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inter dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there's a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies. Because. Distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about the hypothesized that then maybe two or the same thing inclination is to think, hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well, there there are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is a very key point, by the way that I think because of the nineteen Fifty-three CIA panel on UFO's that concluded. It really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you defined as real they were more concerned about the fact that in the the July nineteen fifty two cases, which by the way was the first one I've ever heard about which was my father saying block saucers over the Pentagon. And that just that was a great story. My little six year old ears. You know? So I must've been born in into you follow are on the reincarnation of a previous ufologist, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the warning systems that we had to protect us from the Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not were overridden, by UFO cases during that that period the filter centers for the. Civilian the ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was you know, I it's dated now. But was was a useful tool back then and the the the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was an identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was. Jammed every if we had been attacked that. Weekend. It would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines are jam radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that private UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand the involved, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Oh, yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant. There was a communist under every rock. Yes. The communists under the rock where parents interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate fake UFO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over DC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up private UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my late friend gray Barker interpreted as the men in black the problem with that theory. If you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born six at the time. I it's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keep showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it. There are men in black cases going back to two. Entity. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents scare other scarier private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses to minute block cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses either to UFO cases, or cryptic cases are some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the black-eyed kids show up at their door. Slender men shows up or classically the three men in black. When I look at this in depth naturally. I turned to the Albert bender case, which tell us that. Well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two vet had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers. And he set up the believe it was called the international flying saucer bureau, it came and went before my time. But. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it for starting with gray Barker's, they knew too much about flying saucers, which was published. Just a couple of years later. I believe in the nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And and practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about as if he were bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the bejesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about your foes ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers in the three men some years later, but he didn't write it gray Barker wrote, it it was got credit for I guess. Well, Barker didn't get credit for it. But he credited bender with it because it was bender story. But as as as published by gray Barker, and gray was a profound. And if you some libel suits, maybe would make the media start checking their sources before they run with everything. Yes. I absolutely. I'm not big on saving people for especially when it comes to public media. I've heard that I'm not I don't think you should at all. But in this case, it was so agree GIS? And it was on a children. Really? I mean, these riches still children, and and the fact that such a false narratives that will that still follow them. That's do college applications. They'll have to do job her name. We'll be good goals. And these you know, these terrible things that people said about them. We'll we'll pop up. So I have -solutely think they should sue them. And I hope that they get their their. That's. Because that was one of the worst things I have ever seen media. Do doesn't care. What your age is? If you're wearing a mega hat. Thanks for joining us this morning. That's Kathleen McKinney political analyst, you're on News Radio seven, forty KTAR H dive around of traffic and weather together. Let's get you caught up.

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"albert bender" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

16:13 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Or would be in visited not they're out. There were they're not out there. What do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that. People are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from well at that time Mars was still considered remote. That was the spot, right? Well, it was a spot in the sky that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself. But are there extraterrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely, do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from. Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you foes, and the beings that are associated with them and cryptic and. Go send a number of other phenomena are are actually coming from a much closer to us than than let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must've learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have to bin space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about energy mentionable things, you're already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyper space? I mean, I understand the term. But but it basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe. Well, if there are and that enables extra. Terrestrial travel. It also means that inter dimensional travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years. George is is that at the very beginning of Ufology, and I don't go go back quite that far. I got actively involved in one thousand nine hundred sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that that the the awareness of the phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than oh, these are just conventional phenomena that are misunderstood are hoaxes are otherwise explained in conventional terms kind of the Cy cop explanation for things. The first thing that people jump to was. Belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen a UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think that there's a conventional explanation for absolutely not? No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation and sort of alluded to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts ufologist. They pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because they're they're convinced that these are machines, very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that they are from elsewhere in the known universe and. For for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap. I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check. Sure, I hypothesize, but belief is something that seems to be out of the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with the religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl young was interested in in you photos. It's not that he thought that they didn't have some kind of objective existence. But the excitement over it was clearly a new era. Belief system and with all of the trappings of a new religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and for few people that has, but I think we need to look beyond the ETA the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inter dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there is a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies. Because. Distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about that high Papa Cise that then maybe the two or the same thing, including inclination is to think. Hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well, there there are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is very key point, by the way, that I think because of the nineteen fifty three CIA panel on UFO's that concluded it really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you defined as real they were more concerned about the fact that in the the July nineteen fifty two cases, which by the way was the first one I ever ever heard about which was my father saying block saucers over the Pentagon. And that just a great story. My little six year old ears. You know? So I'm have been a born in into your policy are on the reincarnation of a previous Ufology, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the. Warning systems that we had to protect us from a Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not were overridden, by UFO cases during that that period the filter centers for the civilian the ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was stated now. But was was a useful tool back then and the the the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was an identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was. Jammed every if we had been attacked that. We weekend. It would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines were jammed shirt. Radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that private UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand the involved, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant communist under every rock. Yes. The communists under the rock. Where apparently interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate sake UFO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over DC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up private UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my life friends. I agree Barker interpreted as the men in black the problem with that theory, if you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born six time. It's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keep showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it there men in black cases going back to to antiquated. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents scare other scarier private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses two minute block cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses. Either to UFO cases cryptic cases or some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the blackout kids show up at their door. Slender man shows up or classically the three minute block. When I look at this in depth naturally. I turn to the Albert bender case, which tell us that. Well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two vet had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers. And he set up the believe called the international flying saucer bureau if came and went before my time, but. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it for starting with gray Barker's, they knew too much about flying saucers, which was published. Just a couple of years later. I believe in nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And and practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about. As if he were invent bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the bejesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about your foes ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers in the three men some years later, but he didn't write it rapper feet specifically since the end points of the chocolate or the Meridian systems are down there on the end of the you can just even just touch in the end stage of hospice can help people to really crowned. And remember they have a body because a lot of times they're floating in in-between state where they're not quite ready to go, but they're not quite fully here. So if you're touching her gently with your hands or just putting essential oils on her that could potentially. Initiate more movement. But it's really it's not it's not up to us. Right. It's up to them, right? Brittany. Thanks. Appreciate you being part of the program. What was your favorite part of your book journey integrase completing it? Yeah. Writing it was a really cathartic experience for me, and it was full circle. And I really felt like putting myself out there in that way. It's a it's a really intense read, and you know, what's really exciting. Georgia's it's in the hands of a couple of really wonderful Hollywood screenwriters really a lotta track would be cool be cool. And you know, it's what I'm here to do is exemplified the fact that we can be really grounded and powerful with our psychic and intuitive guests and take the fear away. Take the stigma away and be able to kind of normalize it more into the mainstream. So that we can live more empowered life. Let's go to David and Albuquerque, New Mexico. Hi, David squeeze you in here, sir. Hey, george. Hey, sarah. Let me be quick because I see you're just about out of time. Hi, first of all, I have a couple of raven to have a nest in building here in my property and been here for a few years. They have a new chick every every spring, and oh a quick thing. The motorcycle that the gays and he went out into the intersection all my life. I've I have been when I come to a stop at an intersection, I whether manual or automatic, I take it out of gear like manual. I don't just leave. My foot on the clutch and leave it in gear. In case, you have a heart attack repass out, or whatever I I actually take it out of gear. So that that doesn't happen. Well, I I had told Georgia. Previous call about. I had found a girl who is dead that had committed suicide suicide like forty eight hours earlier, and she was in a spot where she likely would not be found for a year, if I hadn't found her two days after she killed herself. And just before I found her I was gonna leave I want I needed to leave the area was big mountains in Wyoming in the middle of nowhere. Wow. But I had this. I had this literal poke hugging feeling at my of my jacket, the caller, I my jacket. The lapel wasn't actually where there was a physical movement. But it felt just like that cycle psychically felt like that. Right. I was compelled to walk down the mountain on direct line. It took me directly to where her. She had crashed her car about two hundred yards down. And I'm wondering if you have any insight into whether that's all in my head. Or if there was something there, thirty seconds, Sarah. Go ahead, totally not all in your head. It was either her was one of your guys getting you to discover her body. So that she didn't have to perish and not nobody know what happened to her. So she would have transitioned over knowing that she had been found in discovered. Thanks to you. Good luck with your program, and the people.

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"albert bender" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

News Radio 810 WGY

16:37 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY

"Allen, what's your personal feeling about your foes are would be in visited not they're out there? They're not out there. What do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that. People are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from well at that time Mars was still considered remote. That was a spot, right? Yeah. Well, it was a spot in the sky that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself, but are there extra terrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely. Do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from? Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you foes, and the beings that are associated with them and cryptic and. Go send a number of other phenomena are are actually coming from a much closer to us than than let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must have learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have been space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about inter dimensional things, you're a already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyper space? I mean, I I understand the term. But it, but it basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe. Well, if there are and that enables. Extraterrestrial travel. It also means that inter dimensional travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years. Georgia's is that at the very beginning of Ufology, and I don't go go back quite that far K got actively involved in nineteen sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that that the the awareness of the UFO phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than oh, these are just conventional phenomena that are misunderstood are hoaxes or otherwise explained in conventional terms kind of the Cy cop. Explanation for things the first thing that people jump to was belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen a UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think there's a conventional explanation for absolutely not? No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation, and I sort of a lewd to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts Ufologists, they pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because they're they're convinced that these are machines, very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that the are from elsewhere in the known universe and for for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap, I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check sure I hypothesize, but belief is something that seems to be out of the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl. Young was interested in in you, foes, it's not that he thought that they didn't have a some kind of objective existence. But the excitement over it was clearly a new era belief system and with all of the trappings of a new religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and four few people that has, but I think we need to look beyond the ETA the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inter dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there's a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies. Because. Distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about the that hypothesized that then maybe the two or the same thing inclination is to say, hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well there. There are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is a very key point, by the way that I think because of the nineteen fifty three CIA panel on UFO's that concluded. It really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you defined as real they were more concerned about the fact that in the the July nineteen fifty two cases, which by the way was the first one I've ever heard about which was my father saying block saucers over the Pentagon. And that just that was a great story. My little six year old ears. You know, so I'm Estevao been a born in into Ufology are on the reincarnation of a previous Ufology, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the warning systems that we had to protect us from a Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not. Were overridden, by UFO cases during that that period the filter centers for these civilian the ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was you know, is stated now, but was was useful tool back then and the the the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was an identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was it jammed every if we had been attacked that. Weekend. It would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines were jammed shirt. Radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that private UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand the fault, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant communist under every rock. Yes. The communists under the rock. Where apparently interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate sake USO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over DC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up private UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my late friends. I agree Barker interpreted as the men in black the problem with that theory, if you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born six at the time. I it's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keeps showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it there men in black cases going back to antiquity. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents scare other scarier private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses two minute block cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses. Either to UFO cases, or cryptic cases or some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the blackout kids show up at their door or slender man shows up or classically the three men in black when I look at this in depth naturally. I turn to the Albert bender K switch tell us that. Well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two vet had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers. And he set up the believe it was called the international flying saucer bureau, it came and went before my time. But. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it though. For starting with great Barker's. They knew too much about flying saucers, which was published just a couple of years later. I believe in the nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And and practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about as if he were bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the bejesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about you foes, ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers and the three men some years later, but he didn't write it gray Barker wrote, it it was like she got credit for I guess. Well, Barker didn't get credit for it. But he credited bender with it because it was bender story. But as as as published by gray Barker, and gray was profound person. I, but he was also a bit of a trickster, and, you know, not to speak ill of the dead because he was one of my best friends. But he I I was told by multiple sources, maybe even by gray himself that, you know, basically, he wrote the book, however, does it matter up bender moved to the west coast and was involved with classical music. He was involved with an orchestra leaving L A, and he passed on just a couple of years ago. However, missing from all that is the fact that in addition to his interest in science fiction and in flying saucers. I mean, I don't think the term UFO said even been invented at that point. He was also an occultist and a practitioner of a cult ceremonial magic. I never fully realized that even though it's it's the the parameters of his dissertation when I saw a picture of his home. I group of pictures, actually, which were not widely published a gray Barker published late in his life and shortly before his own tragic and premature death, although not under mysterious circumstances at all. He published these photos in a very small circulation book, and when I enhance them and blew them up. I could clearly see as an occultist myself that this guy Albert k bender was practicing ceremony all magic. And once I saw that I thought because he had an author. He had various occult symbols. He had the the entire repertoire and a time when that was exceedingly rare that was a dead period for the occult the nineteen fifties and early nineteen sixties it was just dead that there were maybe a handful of people worldwide that had any interest in that whatsoever. Some of the periphery like astrology, and so forth have always had a following. But you couldn't even buy a tarot deck other than well. Even the other than the one that the church of lie. In an offspring of the hermetic brotherhood of light issued which was a black and white little deck with AGIP type symbols on it. They just didn't exist until sometime in the early nineteen sixties one deck, the the one associated with the hermetic order of the golden dawn was reprinted in a rather. Nice. Addition by university books, if I remember, correct? When we come back. I wanna ask you what your favorite UFO cases of all times what it may be. There are lots of them that are out there. But I wanna get your favorite. And of course, we'll take phone calls next with Allen greenfield. So we'll open up the phone lines. Your your foe stories and definitely your questions. He's an expert. He's an investigator. And he's a darn good. One is books include the complete secret cipher of the UFO nuts. God never does the same thing. Twice messiahs and miracle workers and all of that linked up to his Facebook account, which is linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. And you can like us at Facebook as well. We'll be back in a moment on coast to coast AM find.

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"albert bender" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

17:26 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on WTVN

"Personal feeling about your foes are would be in visited not throughout there were they're not out there? What do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that. People are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from well at that time Mars was still considered remote that was spot. Right. Yeah. Well, it was a spotless sky that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself. But are there extraterrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely, do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from. Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you foes, and the beings that are associated with them and quipped, it's and. Go send a number of other phenomena are are actually coming from a much closer to us. Then then let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must've learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have to bin space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about energy mention things, you're already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyper space? I mean, I I understand the term. But but it basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe. Well, if there are and that enables extra. Terrestrial travel. It also means that inter dimensional travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years. Georgia's is that at the very beginning. If you fall in I don't go go back quite that far. I got actively involved in nineteen sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that that the the awareness of the phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than oh, these are just conventional phenomena that misunderstood are hoaxes or otherwise explained in conventional terms kind of the Cy cop. Explanation for things the first thing that people jump to was belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think that there's a conventional explanation? Absolutely not. No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation, and I sort of alluded to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts ufologist, they pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because they're they're convinced that these are machines, very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that they are from elsewhere in the known universe and for for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap, I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check sure I hypothesize, but belief is something that seems to be out of the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl. Young was interested in in you photos. It's not that he thought that they didn't have a some kind of objective existence. But the excitement over it was clearly a new era belief system with all the trappings of a new religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and for few people that has, but I think we need to look beyond the e t h the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inter dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there's a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies because distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe. Verse property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about the hypothesized that then maybe the two or the same thing including inclination is to say, hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well there. There are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is a very key point, by the way that I think because of the nineteen fifty three CI panel on UFO's that concluded it really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you define as real. They were more concerned about the fact. That in the the July nineteen fifty two cases. Which by the way, was the first one I have ever heard about which was my father saying flying saucers over the Pentagon. And that just a great story. My little six year old ears. You know? So I must've been a born in into Ufology are on reincarnation of a previous Ufology, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the warning systems that we had to protect us from Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not. Were overridden, by UFO cases during that that period the filter centers for the civilian ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was you know, is stated now, but was who was a useful tool back then and the the the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was an identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was jammed every if we had been attacked that. Weekend. It would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines were jammed shirt. Radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that private UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand their involved, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant a communist under every rock. Yes. Communists under the rock where parents interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate sake UFO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over JC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up private UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my late friends. I agree Barker interpreted as the men in black the problem with that theory, if you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born was six at the time. I it's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keeps showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it. There are men in black cases going back to antiquity. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents scare other scarier private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses to men in black cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses. Either to you have. Okay, ses cryptic cases, are some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the blackout kids show up at their door or slender man shows up or classically the three men in black when I look at this in depth naturally. I turn to the Albert bender K switch tell us that. Well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two vet had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers, and he set up the I believe it's called the international flying saucer bureau if came and went before my time, but. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it though for starting with gray Barker's, they knew too much about flying saucers, which was published just a couple of years later. I believe in the nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And and practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about. As if he were bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the bejesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about UFO's ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers in the three men some years later, but he didn't right. It's a great Barker wrote, it it was like she got credit for I guess. Well, Barker didn't get credit for it. But he credited bender with it because it was bender story. But as as as published by gray Barker, and gray was profound person. But he was also a bit of a trickster, and, you know, not to speak ill of the dead because he was one of my best friends. But he I I was told by multiple sources, maybe even by gray himself. You know, basically, he wrote the book, however, does it matter bender moved to the west. Coast and was involved with classical music. He was involved with an orchestra leaving LA and he passed on just a couple of years ago. However, missing from all that is the fact that in addition to his interest in science fiction and in flying saucers. I mean, I don't think the term UFO said even been invented at that point. He was also an occultist and a practitioner of a cult ceremonial magic. I never fully realized that even though it's it's the the parameters of his visitation when I saw a picture of his home. I group of pictures, actually, which were not widely published a gray Barker published late in his life and shortly before his own tragic and premature death, although not under mysterious circumstances at all he published these photos in a very small circulation book, and when I enhance them and blew them up. I could clearly see as an occultist myself that this guy Albert k bender was practicing ceremonial magic. And once I saw that I thought. Because he had an altar. He had various occult symbols. He had the the entire repertoire and a time when that was exceedingly rare that was a dead period for the occult the nineteen fifties and early nineteen sixties. It was just dead that there were maybe a handful of people worldwide that had any interest in that whatsoever. Some of the periphery like astrology, and so forth have always had a following. But you couldn't even buy a terro deck other than well. Even the other than the one that the church of light in an offspring of the hermetic brotherhood of light issued which was a black and white little deck with Japan type symbols on it. They just didn't exist until sometime in the early nineteen sixties one deck, the the one associated with the hermetic order of the golden dawn was reprinted. It in a rather. Nice addition by. University books if I remember correctly. When we come back. I wanna ask you what your favorite UFO cases of all times what it may be. There are lots of them that are out there. But I wanna get your favorite. And of course, we'll take phone calls next with Allen greenfield. So we'll open up the phone lines. You're your foe stories and definitely your questions. He's an expert. He's an investigator. And he's a darn good. One is books include the complete secret cipher of the UFO nuts. God never does the same thing. Twice messiahs and miracle workers and all of that linked up to his Facebook account, which is linked up at coast to coast AM dot com. And you can like us at Facebook as well. We'll be back in a moment on coast to coast AM find out more about tonight's guest. Log on to coast to coast AM dot com. Atalay know where America's five.

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"albert bender" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

15:50 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Allen, what's your personal feeling about your foes? Are we being visited not they're out there? They're not out there. What do you think? Yes. To all of those. I think that. People are experiencing especially with the closer encounter cases. They're experiencing only a fraction of what's actually going on with them. I know that's not particularly satisfactory answer. When I started. I thought the same thing that most people that were Ufology enthusiasts thought that they were visitors from well at that time Mars was still considered remote. That was a spot. Yeah. Well, it was a spotless guy that looked red. And you could see these canals which strangely disappear when you get up close, which is an interesting thing in and of itself. But are there extraterrestrial visitors possible? Absolutely, do I think that that is where the UFO cases are coming from. Absolutely not. Because of what I mentioned before. I think that the notion that we're being visited from else where is probably better phrased as we're being visited from else else. What which means I think that we are so close to other dimensional structures other membranes that are totally different from our own. It's much more likely that you photos, and the beings that are associated with them and quipped, it's and. Go send a number of other of phenomena are are actually coming from much closer to us than than let's say from alpha centauri would be the most credible place because that's four light years away. And it's conceivable that they must've learned how to bend space and time. Well, yeah, they would have to bin space and time, and if you've been space and time, then you're talking about dimensional things. And if you're talking about inter dimensional things, you're already conceding the point that there are inter dimensional space. You know, if you you can't just blithely do a Star Trek thing and say, oh, we go into hyperspace. What is hyper space? I mean, I I understand the term. But if but it basically means that there are shortcuts outside of the universe as we understand the universe. Well, if there are and that enables. Extraterrestrial travel. It also means that inter dimensional travel from a much closer source is entirely possible. One of the things that has puzzled me over the years. Georgia's is that at the very beginning of Ufology, and I don't go go back quite that far. I got actively involved in nineteen sixty of course, it was about fifteen years before that that the the awareness of the phenomenon came to public view as we now understand it. I think it's as old as the earth, actually. The first thing that people said other than all these are just conventional phenomena that are misunderstood are hoaxes or otherwise explained in conventional terms kind of the Cy cop. Explanation for things the first thing that people jump to was belief in flying saucers from other worlds. And I wonder why the leap immediately to that. There isn't any clear reason, no one has ever seen a UFO traveling from another planet. They're all seen here or very close to the earth. And that suggests to me that they are a product of our own environment. Do I think that there's a conventional explanation for absolutely not? No, I think there is a very very unconventional explanation, and I sort of alluded to that. And the fact is most of the nuts and bolts ufologist, they pull their hair out when they hear about that. Because they're they're convinced that these machines very like the Mars Rovers only a little more advanced than that. And that they are from elsewhere in the known universe and for for the life of me. I don't understand why that particular leap, I also wonder about the term belief in that context. Belief doesn't fit into my picture of the subject at all. I can check. Sure, I hypothesize, but believe is something that seems to be outta the religious universe. And there's nothing wrong with religious universe. But that's why the psychologist Carl. Young was interested in in you, foes, it's not that he thought that they didn't have some kind of active existence, but the excitement over it was clearly a new era belief system and with all of the trappings of a new religion. I kind of expected that it would become that and for few people that has, but I think we need to look beyond the E T H, the extraterrestrial hypothesis into things like inner dimensional transfers that take place, and if that also leads to some notion that there's a way to skip space even between star systems even between galaxies. Because. Distance is no object. If you're talking about some sort of outside of the universe property, which you can go into and then come out of where you want to which is really what what people are talking about that hypothesized that then maybe the two or the same thing include inclination is to think, hey, we're here they're here. So why think of them as being from you know, a galaxy far far away. They don't need to be. You've investigated men in black situations who or what are they? Well, there there are a few cases mostly from the nineteen fifties. This is a very key point, by the way that I think because of the nineteen fifty three CIA panel on UFO's that concluded. It really wasn't looking into whether they were real or not whatever you defined as real they were more concerned about the fact that in the the July nineteen fifty two cases, which by the way was the first one I ever ever heard about which was my father saying flying saucers over the Pentagon. And that just that was a great story. My little six year old ears. You know? So I must've been a born in into your policy are on the reincarnation of a previous ufologist, but in any case in all seriousness. I think that the CIA panel was most concerned about the fact that all of the warning systems that we had to protect us from a Soviet attack. Whether such was actually in the works or not were overridden, by UFO cases during that that period the filter centers for these. Civilian the ground observer corps, which was a civilian thing to spot enemy bombers or something that was you know, stated now, but was was a useful tool back then. And the the the call centers that were receiving information on anything that was an identified like, whether it was a bomber or whether it was a craft from alpha centauri, or whatever it was. Jammed every if we had been attacked that. Weekend. It would have been a surprise attack. And we would have been caught off guard because the phone lines were jammed shirt. Radar was looking for flying saucers rather than for. So the CIA concluded that private UFO organizations, and you have to be, you know, nineteen fifties. Think here to understand the involved, but UFO private organizations could be infiltrated by communist agents. I know this sounds a little weird. Yeah. But this is you know, this is the CIA nineteen fifty two which is still relevant communist under every rock. Yes. The communists under the rock. Where apparently interested in flying saucer groups in order to generate sake UFO reports in order to to duplicate the jam up that took place in July fifty two over DC. And because the CIA said that they recommended that the government break up private UFO groups shortly after that. A number of private UFO groups were visited by intimidating people who they interpreted or later people like my late friends. I Barker interpreted as the men in black. The problem with that theory. If you carry it forward is first of all we're not in that kind of era anymore. The CIA panel was you know, I was probably was before you were born six at the time. I it's it's not relevant now. But the men in black keeps showing up, and in fact, as I've delved into it. There are men in black cases going back to antiquity. So clearly that wasn't the CIA recommendations that that government agents scare other scarier private Ufologists out of business. Also, most of the witnesses two minute block cases are not Ufologists. They are. In fact, witnesses either to UFO cases cryptic cases, or some other strange phenomena and a few days later, the black kids show up at their door or slender man shows up or classically. The three men in black. When I look at this in depth naturally. I turn to the Albert bender K switch tell us. Oh, well, okay. So bender was from Bridgeport, Connecticut, he just passed on very recently. He was World War Two that had an interest in science fiction. He also had an interest in flying saucers. And he set up the believe it's called the international flying saucer bureau if came and went before my time, but. Unknown to most of the people who have had something to say about his case. And he's practically every traditional book on UFO's talks about it for starting with gray Barker's, they knew too much about flying saucers, which was published. Just a couple of years later believes in nineteen fifty six if I remember, right and keel who I also knew very well. And and practically everybody has has mentioned that case if they're at all involved in this. They talk about as if he were bender was investigating UFO's with this probably two hundred member. If that flying saucer group got visited by people who scared the Jesus out of him, and he shut down the bureau and would not talk about UFO's ever again, supposedly he wrote a book called flying saucers and the three men some years later, but he didn't write a great Barker wrote, it it was she got credit for I guess. Well, Barker didn't get credit for it. But he credited bender with it because it was bender story. But as as as published by gray Barker, and gray was profound person. But he was also a bit of a trickster, and, you know, not to speak ill of the dead because he was one of my best friends, but he I was told by multiple sources, maybe even by gray himself. You know, basically, he wrote the book, however, does it matter up bender moved to the west. Coast and was involved with classical music. He was involved with an orchestra leaving in LA and he passed on just a couple years ago. However, missing from all that is the fact that in addition to his interest in science fiction, and then flying saucers, I mean, I don't think the term UFO said even been invented at that point. He was also an occultist and a practitioner of a cult ceremonial magic. I never fully realized that even though it sits the parameters of his visitation when I saw a picture of his home group of pictures, actually, which were not widely published a gray Barker published late in his life and shortly before his own tragic and premature death, although not under mysterious circumstances at all. He published these photos in a very small circulation book, and when I enhance them and blew them up. I could clearly see as an occultist myself that this guy Albert k bender was practicing ceremonial magic. And once I saw that I thought because he had an author. He had various occult symbols. He had the the entire repertoire and a time when that was exceedingly rare that was a dead period for the cult the nineteen fifties and early nineteen sixties. It was just dead that there were maybe a handful of people worldwide that had any interest in that whatsoever. Some of the periphery like astrology, and so forth have always had a following. But you couldn't even buy a tarot deck other than well. Even the other than the one that the church of life. In an offspring of the hermetic brotherhood of light issued which was a black and white little deck with Japan type symbols on it. They just didn't exist until sometime in the early nineteen sixties one deck, the the one associated with the hermetic order of the golden dawn was reprinted in a rather..

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"albert bender" Discussed on Dreamland

Dreamland

05:23 min | 2 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Dreamland

"The towel organization memory metal Jalen hynick, an UFO cover ups now on page one ninety four of the book she asks the most important question. Why kill the study later in the show. We're going to get into what was killed. But right now, it's find out. Why why would these scientists make such a gross error? They knew there was something to study here. And yet the spigot was turned off Irena. What do you have to say about this? Well, I couldn't I don't know. Because I don't Mattel said, you know, studied the study actually, and I had a number of handwritten notes say, well, just turn it off and quit. Right there when they had all the information, and I didn't understand that at all. Phase as the whole train of things exploded UFO research on UFO's is ruined forever. Was put from their notes. And that was right when they had a lot of information and besides that it was after the Washington fly by. And that was really interesting too. Because in nineteen fifty two there were a big fly by over the White House and everything of UFO's. In fact, they were studying you also Pentagon and. The fly by was over the places where they were studying which it made me kinda wonder if somebody got scared or something. Well, yeah, that's exactly what I'm wondering. You mentioned bender Albert bender. Can you tell us a little bit about what he found out and plan to do? But didn't. Well, he started bureau international flying saucer bureau, and he was very first person. I think that started any type of international orientation to explore UFO's and the descendants of that or like Mathon and all the big UFO organizations, and he'd been exploring and studying and he had a news bulletin us putting out publication. So it was a big thing back. Then it was the only big thing about to investigate. You owes besides the government, and he was found out. He said he found out all about UFO's, and he was going to make an announcement. In a month or so. Explain the whole secret will then something terrified ING. I guess he might have had a from men in black or something I'm not real short. But something just absolutely terrifying. And he got completely out of the field, and he was the famous beginner of everything like that. And he just died a couple years ago, and he was he stayed so out of everything that nobody even knew who he was. And he just died recently. He was in these nineties. And he had not sewed anything since the nineteen sixties. Thank. You know, that's not he's not the only person who has done something like that. In the book. You mention could something in the government have come under the control of the phenomenon. Can you expand on that theory? Well, I said that I know it says, very it sounds, very terribly. But I had some adventures when I worked for the intelligence, they see they wonder if something way up in the government is. Is over the UFO studies. But a scientist named Harley Rutledge intensive studying seventy three in Missouri. If oh phenomena, and he reported, there seems to be some kind of metal leak between UFO's and people's minds and he was assigned. This has been totally you know, with other witnesses and equipment and everything else. And I had some experiences to that made me also wonder about that. And so I was very curious if someplace up in the government somebody might be under the influence of the USO phenomena. No, just hold on free dream Lambda. We're gonna take another break, and we're going to expand on this a lot when we come back. We'll be right back. Whitley Strieber is the legendary author of communion transformation. So grays superstorm with art bell. And so many.

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"albert bender" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left

Last Podcast on the Left

04:54 min | 3 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left

"Men's warehouse which is a pun which henry alert in philly i can't believe that blew your mind so big deal i am i am not rochester big and tall solely and forever coal congrats man i want you to get a pitch work for them and i think it would be incredible i would love to but you scoff of course kessel because you didn't do the reading but look at every many cases of hugh afo activity bigfoot poltergeist activity are often all wrapped up into one you look at the bridgewater triangle you looked at what happened with mount shasta you look at these a lot of different places skin walker ranch has been same activity cryptic ufo alien stuff of and ghost activity all smash together in a big goal comb bottle i just do realize activity i didn't realize the sasquatch the men in black were do oh that's a that's a movie i'd see definitely a movie i'd see but yeah all this stuff shows up in when you have flaps occur flaps that's that's like the term for when like ufo activity occurs in one location for like an extended period of time it's also the sound ones stanton friedman runs up a flight of stairs not to malign stein friedman we had them in the show he's a friend of the show now you afo flaps i remember bingo wings bingo wings mccall those ufo flaps from now on even though the salem witch trials were almost certainly just massive steria coupled with people yes anding each other until guy got crushed with a big rock yeah isn't it more fun to think that maybe just maybe sasquatch was there to come on guys on with it everything's esque watching series of horrific historical events and it would make them more fun story and then at the end at the end add incest watch was there too yeah and it really cut to trump kim jong hoon talking north korea capital like all talking stuff cut over bigfoot making pad tied nasa two also one of the secret service members now it seems that man in black activity either died down or went completely unreported in the eighteenth and most of the nineteenth century and while it could have just been that we finally moved past the witch hunt phase of western civilization i mean the literal witch hunt fe horrible stuff something interesting happened near the turn of the twentieth century although they were not traditional g manhattan suit men in black ib's started popping up in scotland in england and nineteen one of women in scotland saw a group of ten men dressed in black seemingly performing a ritual around a coffin on which a set of bagpipes laid i think this reminds me of like naked gun where he shoots a bunch of people who are performing shakespeare in the park it was just a funeral a funeral yes absolutely they could've just been very into the bagpipes because all takes us for one man me like be me with me sure to win black you elect to see it 'cause it's slimming three years later strong poltergeist activity broke out all over the british isles and four people spontaneously combust it in the year nineteen o four alone and a year after that a young girl was visited three nights in a row by a man in black the girl said the man gave her a message that she dared not repeat an experience that was echoed half century later by albert bender but also most of scenarios most of doctors scenarios there is normally in the stereotypical duchess narrow there's a section of the scenario where they are given secret knowledge and aliens are like well you can you can't share this with anybody and will know because what we're ailing yeah they they know a lot so what happened that the turn of the twentieth century so what happened hopeless what they are well it could be that one man is responsible for all of this or at least all this beginning there's one man who may have opened a door just a crack at brac adore that may have somehow been shut by persons unknown two hundred years earlier in the man who may have reopened it okay is alastair crowley dude dude that's him playing the bass complain natal base we can cooler shit naked from the waist down completely hard beautiful head with the.

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"albert bender" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left

Last Podcast on the Left

04:20 min | 3 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left

"And i think that you should try some of that before settling in to what we're about to run you through maybe if you're going through sobriety some ginseng yeah i don't know if that opens up the mind or not caffeine a my mind is always open man i don't need no chemical well i mean many years of hallucinogen abuse kind of open it for so being taped back yet it's sort of like the the hard core jampy and ship belt yeah that they had in the wwe shattered duct taped back together it's doors it's a door hanging off hinges and now it's kind of lean in up like you and your buddies call that a door but really it's the flap pick up the door move the door then put it back after you enter the building but it is a door to door so before we get to this week's episode we got to ignore our second source casebook on the men in black by jim keet it is fantastically written and very interesting book even though admittedly it can be very confusing at times maybe for you you plebe all i do is understand the mind bending world of the men in black so our last episode ended with the discussion of tapas and the possibility that the modern day men in black where essentially born from the imagination intelligence and fear of the proto nerd albert bender you know what i tell all the ladies a ufo boys imagination is just stronger than the other boys you should tell that to anyone would like to say i know what topa is it's a image hundred up yet uhhuh solely from the mind well i mean not i i mean mean you know what that's farther than i ever thought he'd get thank you got it but one thing to keep in mind with the men in black is that they are by no means a uniform group they come in many different shapes sizes and races with different powers and influence really but again they all share the same thing secrets he grant secrets are no fun can you choose to be a fat one or a thin one or tall one or show you're giving your cased from birth oh okay so on this episode where mostly gonna cover the min black through the lens of a word whose etymology almost perfectly describes our subject the latin roots run the gamut concealed hidden beyond the realm of human understanding and the word is a cult word of the day twentieth century is by no means home to the first sighting of the men in black the men in black been around for centuries most notably in fifteenth and sixteenth century europe and always in cases involving the most popular paranormal phenomena of the time which craft lou men in black to me they're very they're like the david bowie of the occult world with every fashion they every single raise it goes through a cultism they're right there and so a part of it is like last episode we try to explain what one of nick redfern's biggest theories is that they are told us we're going to talk about this this episode specifically is how they are an extension of a colt matters that have been around since the beginning of time and at the minute black of always been their step by step fucking pocket to pocket race dicta dick us together right crab walking a slam next couple boys boys'll not old each other up for the first time in some vacation when you run away from your parents of the first time they're off get hammered on the cruise strange way to make a teepee but topa conjured up yeah with with just the mind there you guys might not have known that this is why you don't let me do research we don't let you do that's the problem you get one nugget of knowledge and just all of a sudden you're the most air get person in the reg hammer sledgehammer agrarian the first recorded sighting of a man in black at least as far as europe goes occurred in france in.

"albert bender" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

02:11 min | 3 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Yeah yeah just wanted to give you his background and explain why i kept saying supposedly allegedly did really send a letter to the fbi maybe did get a response from hoover i guess as possible but i doubt it again does not seem like trustworthy source source now let's check back in with another that other wackadoo albert bender for the tober story i've tober nineteen fiftythree bender had planned to reveal you know his black men findings are men in black black man that'd be totally different way to take this he was going to finally talk about some black man he'd been thinking about them for years no he's going to reveal his men in black i wrote minimum that's where i messed up what is minimum black men black finds he's gonna release it in that month's issue of his space review publication but before the issue is published he's visited by three men dressed in black who had already read the unpublished report and confirmed the findings they'd warned him not to print these silencers as he called him scared bender to the point where not only did he not publish the report but he he left warning in his farewell addition now the magazine he said we would like to print the full story in space you view but because of the nature of the information we are sorry that we have been advised in the negative we advise those engage in saucer work to please be very cautious and then he suspended publishing and then dissolved his little group the international flying saucer bureau is no more well before bender dissolved his group he had included in it a man named gray barker important you will follow ufology lore gray barker joined the group and bender would tell his story to gray a few years later would bark was the twenty seven year old man from clarksburg west virginia who's getting way way you afo some self a while it is early twenties barker beginning to collect stories about the flatwoods monster an alleged extraterrestrial reported by the residents of braxton county back in nineteen fifty two in an article for fate magazine that paranormal monthly magazine we talked about earlier earlier barker basing his descriptions on tape recorded interviews with supposed witnesses describe the flatwoods monster as approximately ten feet tall with round blood red face large pointed hood.

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"albert bender" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

Good Seats Still Available

02:17 min | 4 years ago

"albert bender" Discussed on Good Seats Still Available

"All on plaques in came across elber bender also called chief he was uh uh native american from minnesota and um i son matt said why don't you book on uh albert bender chief spender so looked into it found that uh there'd been a couple of several good books ahead rv just recently in two thousand eight come out on uh a chief defender albert bender so uh decided now and so begin to look around see what other uh native americans stars they're really good excellent a star quality players from their early years of baseball the what we call the dead ball era between 1919 twenty have not been adequately uh percentage of the public so didn't take on defying done john tortoise york yes uh myers m e y u r s john tortoise myers played i don't wanna with it john mcgraw hunting the best and paying this any of years of all the time he was the catch john myers uh india he always preferred to be called uh uh john myers uh like let's say they are americans all all were labelled chief but uh they didn't like it it was not it was it's which origins back on just really pejorative uh but uh he he was just a catchword cut christie uh as you sent three years stayed with giants will i'm sure we'll get into this but so that's where i came from so i said i'm gonna i'm gonna see what i can do with monetary so i i was able to contact his his relatives she didn't have any children that we know of uh but he had grant and nephew couple grand nieces that i contacted and right off the bat they told me about uh the fact that he had pride in his native american heritage and we're up for some of its early years uh on the santa rosa reservation and so so the southern california he's myers is a member of the coup we uh uh nation a c a h u i l.

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