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DNB: Manufacturing Dependency, Symbol Warfare, & The Disgusting Media (7.30.20)

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DNB: Manufacturing Dependency, Symbol Warfare, & The Disgusting Media (7.30.20)

"Welcome to the drive time news thirty minutes forty five or patrons jam packed with news of the day from a perspective of truth liberty and justice. This is Monica Herat Brad basically. Our top story is trump's top tweet. He has pinned to the top of his twitter feed the following tweet with Universal Mail in voting not absentee voting, which is good. Twenty twenty will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent election in history it will be a great embarrassment to the USA delay the election until people can properly securely and safely vote. Yes. So that's causing a stir I've got a couple of comments. The first thing that comes to mind when I hear that is. Who is the leader of the direct opposition to this position? Stacey Abrams. Yes. So this is a collision course of trump versus Stacey Abrams in my opinion because she is doing yes the other side of it, there's voter suppression. It's GonNa Happen. We've already decided that it's going to happen. There's no way that doesn't happen unless we win and trump is doing the reverse of that. Last Night Kathy messaged me that Tucker Carlson. Said last night that Abrahams would be a likely a G. Attorney General choice which I kind of think is unlikely because she does not like to work. Like I'm not saying she likes to agitate our I should say she said, she didn't want to be a senator because she didn't want do all that I shouldn't generalize say she doesn't like Torque but that is does not seem to be consistent with our political ambitions. Doing live chats and virtual trainings where she teaches people to agitate that thing. I think you're right he's an image she is A. She's a face job myth. Myth. Let I, think they say like the she has a legacy alleging yeah. All that. So the Democrats are saying, this is an empty threat by trump because this, this I actually had to start laughing could not control myself because it's unconstitutional. That it would take an act of Congress to change the election and then they went on and on about how I think since we've had an election every. November. Since the beginning of this country, there's absolutely no way. Let's be real. This is going to happen or Republicans were saying that to all very foreshadowing at how these times are unprecedented, which unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures. But what so hilarious is that absolutely, every single solitary thing that government on any level has wanted to do, they have done without resistance because they suspended our our constitutional rights all in the name of. This being an emergency instead of saying it's an emergency. We can extend our our policies to the full extent of the law. They're saying we can go far beyond the law with our policies. So it's completely empty rhetoric to suggest that the constitution would stand in the way in this day and age. The that always, the accusation that both sides hurled each other. It's unconstitutional. That's what Albert Albert Jay nock. The thirties wrote in our enemy, the state, the party. Who benefits from what it says the Constitution is the party. That's thumps it right flips when it's not and that's exactly that's what that's when I finally finally gave up hope for the system at all were is when. When on WSB PEOPLE? who were something the crap out of the constitution throughout Obama's tenure when trump came along I mean my favorite quote was recent one not from those days. But that I'm quibbling about semantics when I quote the constitution quibbling about Samantha. What solid ski taught was to hold your opposition to their rule book make it make them stick to their rule book for your advantage? That's what I think Putin does yeah. The democracy set right democracy and this is how it works. Everybody needs to say, Blah Blah. Blah because he's in the in the in the second position. So for him a level playing field, which is what that embodies. is benefit that's exactly how he uses it. I just think here would we hear both sides say it's unconstitutional. It's both sides attempting to do that to hold them to the the playbook. So to speak the rule book, the Constitution, but neither side really cares. So now they definitely don't care I want if you WanNa talk about either side to just say something about the Portland situation go for May. So I yesterday, we put on the show why I think it was an indulgence. It was departure from our normal format, I? Just I did ten minutes right out of the gate on all the reasons. I think that Portland that the Fed should not be in Portland and how I think this is the the the last stand for self defense for any hope of being able to carve out our own spot locally it was a good. Overview I encourage people to go back it's July Twenty, ninth twenty twenty it would be I did get. Quite, a few like interesting comments Ricky Bobby, tweeted at me. You suggested that we use. Camera People in Portland get cameras and get guns and some people they pay all these taxes. That's where the money goes for their security. They can't get those things for security. Now don't you think and I just want to clarify one point I said to get those cameras not for protection against the protestors but for protection against the government when you defend yourself against the protestors. So yeah, you gave the government that money and they are misusing it. So it is there the people and he said there's a shortage of guns that's because people are afraid of the government's. On guns and bullets started with with Obama. So This just emphasizes the fact that this is the last stand, but here's the funny thing. So my my argument, the whole time was that this is getting Republicans on board with federal intervention in local politics local policing, which is totally unconstitutional. They even to the point where they put police on their their generic uniforms, which you pointed out, which is crazy because that's violence Matata. So my opinion. So now today is hadline was that Portland's local government is going to take over and the feds have agreed to leave. But in the next article I read Bar Attorney General. Barr says Oh. Yeah. Yeah. That's in Portland but we still have deals in Cleveland. In Milwaukee in Detroit that we're going to go in there and at unprecedented level and fight crime and deal with guns I mean there there's an operation I can't remember the name of the well. Yes, there was an operation where implementing this before the coronavirus hit where they were going to cities with high crime levels to do this, and then the corona virus came into the violence came up again when the coronavirus. Bar said in an interview that's when they started deploying out to these cities again are you talking about project guardian? I don't think. Maybe A bill bars approach to using mental health laws to take guns away from people. Right? He was doing this in December twenty nineteen. It is there that is going to really a thing annoy me and I'm certain I wrote that down but in any case. They are going in there to do it, and it absolutely reflects this. It will take a Republican to take your guns that that wise caller. Mentioned and here's the thing. Here's why the mission was accomplished in Portland because every freaking Republican from coast to coast from the citizens to the politician came out strongly in favor of sending the feds into localities who are not doing the job. So now that they have everybody on record in real time in the year now and they've completely conflicted the issues of whether it's for crime fighting or protecting federal. which is exactly what I said. This was a setup for and now you gotta take it. You GotTa take it in your town. So now maybe they can do it in Fort. Worth. Right. Because it's not about protecting your property or I don't I don't they can't. But not in Fort Worth but it's a different situation and Portland was the place where the last stand. Just. Wasn't. Even. That last sand. Yeah. It was called or it is called operation. Legend. Yes yes and I'm because of that Will Smith movie which was a remake of or was a real old sci fi buck legend where he goes into the burnt out city and he's got a big gun. It was the only one. That's there. Yeah. I watched a flight five minutes it was just I don't know. Maybe after. I figured it was that like Sci fi movie I don't know the last point I'll make about that is is that there was a The ACLU, is starting. A suit. that. Doesn't want the police. So the police were live streaming, the protests, and the ACLU says they have no right to do that because of your privacy whatever. But that's messed up because I've always said if the police have a right to watch you like that even without them having a warrant without any probable cause then that's because we have that right? That's our right. There are exploiting they can't have the right if we don't have the right unless they got a warrant for it. So what I think the answer to police surveillances is to livestream. Or fight the fight whether they have that right and the ACLU which normally I mean they're totally communist organizations to me but a lot of times they're the technically correct in what they're saying and they might be technically correct in the law but they are setting the stage for the police to continue to survey all up the. WAZOO and not even be permitted to push it out in real time on edited on curated, which is our only hope of defense against it. Against them using. It. against. Yeah everybody's GonNa be filming everybody else. That's how it's going to be in the future be great except for they're not when you try to put your, I remember with Parklands felt fourteen, two, thousand, eighteen when I went to youtube to find everybody's videos there were none there were thousand kids there and there were none so you might be filming it but with the censorship platforms. Yeah. Adding that it's not happening up guys I talk about neighbors feed and seed a lot of not just because they offer everything you need to live a more sustainable lifestyle but also because of the way that they conduct business, they give you the kind of personalized attention you. Don't get anywhere else in fact, Bill from neighbors make propaganda report listeners of priority. He's given his private number to anyone who calls or emails store so that he can personally make sure you get what you need. You'RE GONNA WANNA take him up on that offer. So Go to neighbors fien C dot com you can find their info and the contact page, and if you're in the SMYRNA area, be sure and check out neighbors all new farmer's market on Saturdays from nine am to four pm by the way operation legend was named after a four year old named agenda Taliaferro who shot and killed in Kansas City Washington sleeping. That's why spells with a capital G. It's capital out. I guess capital L. E. Capital G., E., N. D.. But it certainly has other. Possible meaning. legendary. vouches latest recommendation well wasn't before we move on wasn't there something about these are the George Floyd protests. Oh Well. There's a new George, floyd symbol that is being put up around the country. It's kind of touring around the country I guess is a better way to put it. Black is matter protesters toppled the Jefferson Davis Monument in Richmond Virginia last evening the activist put a futuristic new symbol in support of the fight. They replace the statue of the confederate leader with a three D Hologram of George Floyd. The holographic memorial is going to tour the southern US replacing former confederate monuments and it's GonNa go to five or six different cities and when you look at a picture of it, it looks very very dystopia and like almost the Star Trek thing where there's this giant image holographic images looking down on you and you can hear his family talking while you see the image which is in. That is Creepy A. High. Well, that was wearing a mask. Not. The one that I saw it's not this is symbol warfares what's going on and right now seemed as a black lives matter is winning there are people who have tried to paint the black lives matter mural. The one outside trump tower has been try they've tried to pay over four times and the way this works is this was big back during World War leading up to World War Two between the Communists and Nazis the Communists put the swastikas all around and then. The Nazis would and then the communist would come and they would change the Nazi Nazi symbol, the swastika into this three Arrow symbol that they use. So they would build off the Nazi. Swastika symbols. So they would just ask their pain to it and then the Nazis change back and they would change it back and the idea was to transform the symbol into something. To evoke a different feeling than to one it originally evoke either vote disgust out of the people who originally liked it or to inspire your side to fight harder, and we're seeing that go on the people who are drawing mask on Martin Luther King's face on murals they understand the symbol warfare very well, the people are just smearing paint on the, but beyond stuff they don't understand quite as well yet but I think they might be learning. So moving onto a covert stuff. Have you. I know you have heard that Herman Cain tied I was. surprised. At that Herman Cain died they. I also was surprised I. Didn't realize he was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer in two, thousand, six, I mean that's. Years I can't. I don't know how you get out of a person's liver although I did I know somebody also associated with WSB who beat seeds four pancreatic cancer or pancreatic cancer, which is hard to beat. So I guess it happens but they say, so the local radio according to Jj Boogie is saying that he died of a heart attack, the official story or whatever the rumors have it that he died of Cova they're showing pictures of him not wearing a mask at the trump rally in Oklahoma I have a couple of things to say about that the picture of him, not wearing a mask as like ten other people with him, not wearing masks, none of whom I assume are. And the other thing is people are telling me well, he had a heart attack because covid makes you weaker to that and yeah, that's true. People who are. Morbidly, ill. are anything kind of tip them over the edge, which is he's the one who died and not the people in the thing. That's what co Morbidity is. With the ventilators if you it's the people over sixty five retiring of it because if with co Morbidity. If that's if you were super super foldable, that's how that I believe is how microbial wonder. If. When he? If, people who are sick. Or older in a degenerative state are more likely to get a positive PR test which is designed to amplify degenerative. DNA so that maybe if viruses are ex oems that are trying to clean up your system or come out of your cells when they're burst or whatever the alternative theory is, maybe that makes these people more prone to have positives. So it's it's a there is a correlation between people are going to die in a positive PR test even if it isn't isn't a correlation with dying of a cold. The last I had heard about his condition was a couple of days ago, and Santa Q. is about to be able to go home. Sound like he was going to be okay based on what I saw. So this is surprising and. What I'm seeing a lot of is same thing you saw is people using it as a way to say, he didn't wear masks and that's why. They celebrate these tragic deaths. If it's a young person, it's a baby. If it's somebody who said that they didn't believe in mask, they love to put that on the front and say so and so who didn't like wearing masks now they're dead as though they're celebrating kind of disgusting but remember kindnesses everything. Yeah kind this is everything is on that thing. So here's the thing if his this is this would make him crazy. If he thought that this that his death was being used to hurt trump, he would hate that because he loves you from what I understand. But I wonder maybe his family if they don't dispute, maybe we'll get a debt fed something out of him. What if they're a bunch of Democrats or they're mad at him for the scandal that his? You know he left the presidential race under the cloak of scandal about infidelity, which I don't think he ever admitted but you never know, I mean, once this is what I Once you're gone, you do not control the narrative. Another thing about that is them using it to attack trump and my question is showing pictures of Herman at these rallies this Tulsa Rally which was saying Oh. That must be where he got it because trump held this rally therefore trump is responsible. They don't know if that's where he got it. Secondly I wonder what the ratio of people who catch it and die who wore masks all the time versus those who didn't I wonder what the ratio there is. I. Wonder if there's actually some numbers on person mascot doubt there is. A because there's all those random controlled trials that do not show that masks. Prevents the transmission of illness. And also curious. At all the pictures of people not wearing masks, all these rallies and protests that they are praising. The L. and protests hypocrisy is disgusting. And they don't even know if it's if what they're claiming has any validity to it whatsoever. Oh, by the way I that had a tweet from don't mask me Bro, which I think is funding. Saying. Pointing out that the Goggle thing is emerging that I protection or facemask emerging which I just it just I notice it. Yeah. Use popped up in this. Lancet article that somebody sent me for another reason and I had never seen it before and I'm telling you see something weird I we are propaganda machine has gotten so ridiculous that absolutely nothing is not. Used propaganda I'm not saying it's all false. I'm just saying it's all propaganda propagated for reason that was propagated for a reason I saw it coming but he pointed out that they could be the way you and I were talking yesterday about that six feet thing the shock collars for the NBA forecasters that all of this could be way as to accentuate train. Refine the surveillance state to be able to detect people under all circumstances with partial face coverings and at gate is a big part of it. So maybe that's the distance helps them identify people's gates I don't know but I believe that the stuff may be certainly the data will be used if it can be used, they're definitely not beneath that a big welcome to our latest sponsor, an avid member of the propaganda report community. True. Am Science experts in CBD with huge variety of premium cvt from different farms and with different cannabinoid profiles all in one place go to true ham science dot com slash proper port for your special offer to the point you're just making this is from next. The website facial recognition algorithms struggled to detect faces under mask a new study finds. So this tells me that they are testing and they are trying to do this. Why would they say that if there were? Yes. The idea is to get technology that can see through the face mask and still detect you. They will have that. Can make a couple of announcements. Tomorrow, which is Friday hopefully people here the spy van at six, thirty, pm Eastern. We are going to be on facebook live. You have to have facebook to do it, but this is just anybody who wants to access livestream. You don't have to be a patron, but you do have to use facebook at facebook dot com slash the Clint Powell being I we will be. Live streaming with our friend Clint, for like a half an hour twenty minutes something like that. Short and then we have a VIP DP, tomorrow at Eight PM Eastern. So if you live streaming may be WANNA sign up but it doesn't matter. It's just for people to watch. Have some fun and you can chat with us in real time, which is what's so fun about it and then I did want to drive people I posted a podcast that I did with erase the state I posted it at the proper port dot com although you can find it at erase the state which was about the moment that the scales fell from my eyes and I saw the the Pathak crecy in this reality I was still like Gerard, pill moment it was my red fell more exactly. It was the Boston Marathon bombing and it was when the Internet was still pretty open and I had pulled up ten all posts that just dug into the details of what made me finally take that red pill. It was undeniable. We really go through it in great detail. If you're interested in that, go to the prop report dot com or find a race, the state, and that's it for now. Fantastic. So owed the did you notice that the market went down today quite a bit because they said that GDP was the lowest. The, worst recession since World War Two at thirty, two percent trap and GDP. The have to say I did say that I don't know where going to go. But that there was going to have to be a drop in the market in order to justify or get some some support going for the next stimulus package. So they know when they're going to get the GDP numbers today is July thirtieth tomorrow is July thirty first win. All the ub and everything the unemployment subsidies expire. So it's no in my mind. It's no coincidence that just when everybody's panicking on the low end about losing that extra money people in the middle who have who their retirement depends on the market are also now wearing. So there you have like basically the entire voting public who are GonNa want either as a Republican or Democrat stimulus package yet to that similar to that there is. Demands for a national database to track VIC. Shins. Because, there's going to be addictions that are coming because people are going to be allowed to, and there's also people pushing legislation to try and prevent that from happening. As saw goes with the stimulus checks. What's going to happen when the stimulus checks stop and people are allowed to a again so did I tell you my insight about like how is how it's work because I kept thinking? We're useless eaters are they just GONNA kill everybody? You know they're just replacing everybody's robots. There's GONNA kill everybody. And I realize I think I understand kind of how it's working and I think what the way it's working is. Capitals let's let's just use. It's like basically communist terms but they there's some economic use in the term. So say capital capital controls the capital like the capital investment, the equipment, the money, and then Labor is the Labor. So by subsidizing all tack all this research and that's what the government and it really gives a tremendous advantage to capital capital. Then capitalize on research and development tax deductible. All that stuff so as interest, so so they can make it so that very little of physical labor needs to be used, and then they take the highly educated middle and upper middle class with a tax into a completely neutral political position but they. They get them to operate that capital. So they have the capital than they have this very small class of human beings that run that capital and everything that they all the product that they produce and sell through that as almost all prophets that's to give that middle and upper middle class kind of a hefty salary but then have more than half of that now is going to get taken away by the government so. They run the government to, and that is used to subsidize the lower classes who consume all that stuff. So the middle class who is going to produce using all this capital, any surplus they get, they get to live. Nice. But any surplus they it goes to the government and those are the income taxes that pay the lower class to consume but the lower class consuming they're consuming the products that the capital class is producing. and. And it subsidizes that and I'm not the it's not communist to observe that is I'm not suggesting that the lower class steal the capital from the upper class at the capitol is connected to the government and creates the scenario and it's and you can see it unfolding how they're. Approaching the covert thing and some of them even created the crisis in the first place. that. That what you need is less government control and more autonomy and no I mean I would say, no governments a government is always everywhere a method of exploitation in my opinion. I. Think that's kind of has to soak in. But like I was thinking about it, they gonNA. Kill all the useless eaters when the robots, why are they just having robots make everything they need useless eaters that's the excuse forgetting the. For extracting even the Labor and stuff and the surplus from the middle class. Talking about is going to be a utopia nobody's GonNa have to work the robots. Everything force we're GONNA. Lounge. By the. Giant. Pool, lead with joy. Lead with joy. You remember that was Patrisse cullors is there isn't a founder. Jalen. The patrisse cullors attor was her quote will be close your eyes and imagine a world where we are lead with joy imagining Gal just Huxley. Imagine a world where if you have kids that you can still follow your dream, you don't worry about saying at home and raising them or being there when they get back from school and raising. Yeah. Don't worry about doing anything because Stacey Abrams. Trade also career plan the UNESCO plan as a sweep your kid up and raise them from the day they're born until they're adults and there's a perfect opportunity for them to do that. Right now, there's multiple articles today that are about how there's a crisis, a child care crisis, the corona virus child care crisis, and that they say is the major thing holding the economy back right now and they're saying it's sexist to they're saying MOMS or staying home they. They don't know what to do with their kids and there's got to be solution economies talking to come back Interstate Abrams, Inter that UNESCO cradle to career plan where the government raises your kid. I have to tell you. It is really really hard for me right now like I was. We're we are the demand for our products is going through the roof because absolutely nobody is speaking the truth about what's happening or giving any honest opinions about what they think is happening. It's just completely an echo chamber now for oil place so we really can't. If we're late people blow up my email or ideas isn't just like where's the show? Where's the show? So I have to do show it takes me five hours a day I've calculated a thousand times. I can't cut it back at all. It's five hours a day but I have a special needs child who at school has a one on one eight. So he's in a special needs classroom. Of like ten cans and he has to have a personal aide because he runs away he cannot. He can't learn independently at all. He likes screams when he gets not really but he liked kind of panicked a little bit when he's overly challenged with the work and it's hard for you to understand what's happening. So I mean I, have to run back and forth you see you know just like. You we pause and I have to run back and forth. It is quite a burden and with our loss in income because of this overall. I have no help at all even if it were allowed and I'm sure it is so. In California. I'm fine. We have a lot of support. It's actually brought our family really much closer together. I absolutely had to get my other kids to help and do the dishes and stuff. Thank goodness that like this is a great moment for them to really. Stopping. So spoiled when things were easier I love it. I'm really happy with it but again, it's highly regressive because if you don't have a little extra capacity, you don't have like a nuclear family that can pull together. Then you are going to be in a in a position where you can't and if you a, I, think lower income people have more a higher incidence of special needs I I think I'm just observing that in my day to day life mean these are things that are quite burdensome and you will you will have to address it. They view will have to address it and it will reinforce this welfare state but four four. Trillion dollar deficits two years running, which is what we're looking at that. That is going to be one hundred percent inflation. That's modern monetary theory right there and if you WANNA wipe out a middle class that's great way to do it. Gosh. I've been reading a lot lately super science to mine knows fine. They create these conditions. This is what as advocated for whatever you're selling whether it's an agenda or a product if the currently the public isn't demanding it or accepting it, then you create the conditions where they can't do anything but accept or demanded, and with this corona virus thing whether this was exploited or just built into the whole. This idea that someone else is going to raise your kid because there's nothing else you can do because the situation if you WANNA survive and WanNa work therefore, you must comply with going to school and ask them if they can let that that one on one come to my house me I don't even take any social services at all because I don't want them in my house by. And for moral reasons. But really if I were desperate, I still wouldn't want it because they take notes and stuff and. He was like a little. That would drive be what he's writing fucker have. This is what she said to me that kid was the doctor described. My son is a bag of sugar. That's how low muscle tone wise it was I didn't care. He was like you know that's how he tells us sweet. Sugar. Now because he was sweet but because he was so low muscle tone like when he was born with down syndrome, he kind of looked almost normal but like they were just like the kid is a blob. So the social worker, they social comes she told me give them massages every night I was like I mean I couldn't even get dressed like I was devastated and I wasn't I wasn't giving recite. You could get your hand which disappear like a bull whip cream like you're not giving them a Sasha's. So she comes back to my house like six weeks later it's like, have you been doing them as I said absolutely not no way that's ridiculous and she star Trek Mom refuses I was like Whoa did she say that so she was saying. Yes. Because I think they want you to know and another time. I asked for help potty training. So I moved to different places and I I needed some help and I did accept it briefly and then rejected immediately I need to help potty training. I was like just number two number ones. Okay. Said, I'm going to write the you need help with number one also so that we can show progress. I said so he's already potty trained, but you're GONNA right that isn't. So you can say that you potty trained him. So yeah, that's like, do you understand that I'm actually paying your consol ary and that was the end of that. So yeah why would? They do that in hospital situations for therapist sometimes so that they could show. So get the order because you have to get an order to get therapy for after certain for certain conditions, you gotta show the progress. So was she doing that for that or just for her own? No, she was doing it for her out. Well, it's she had I had the authorizations have the health for potty training it's. So but I did try a couple of times because when you're desperate you know you got you do you do that's what I'm saying like yes when you're desperate Desperate like crying. Crying in your pillow can't function desperate like when they were three kids in typers than I just couldn't I couldn't do anything and. When you're desperate like that, you do you look around and when you make society feel desperate discuss Ricky Bobby's point like the people in. PORTLAND. They can't afford cameras they don't have guns because of government actions. So they are in the situation where there is nothing they can do at this moment and I get that but I'm saying can't afford cameras I when I was saying that the people in Portland before you arm. Put cameras everywhere on your property. I wasn't saying that get a security system I was saying record your activities so that when you have to defend yourself in a court of law, you have a would you like a body cam? Yeah I'm saying because you want to control it and the ACLU is saying that only the cops have control the public cameras I don't think so but my my point is Yes. The government situation. So I was in a situation where we still had to pay taxes taken care of special needs. Kids wasn't tax deductible now at least not in any meaningful way. So we had to pay the maximum taxes we were living in La at the time. I mean, there was just nothing we could do I could not get the help. I needed. So I looked into that and and I went to the church and they weren't helpful. It was really desperate time but I have to say, but my point is, yes, I see that the scenario does is created by the government to create that dependence when the rubber hits throwed like right now and you have nowhere else to turn. But what I was saying about the people in Portland is this is the moment though because if if they really have to face the reality that they cannot defend themselves at all, then we are not free and this is not the American experiments absolutely over and and that if they can't get up and take liberty back at that point in the form self defense. which is the only right in my opinion. The only right is the right self-defense. Else is that right? Are you talking about the protesters are just the PO I'm talking about don't need feds in Portland you need to arm yourself, protect yourself the government saying that you can't arm yourself. You can stop them from entering the property of your business with a gun, right if you're allowed to use it but if you're not allowed to use it that government has made it impossible for you to defend yourself and defend yourself is the only liberty that you really have. So, if you can't do that and then it gets into roads I, talk about that but I go back and listen to yesterday show people are interested in where this conversation going but I'm just saying, yes, we're desperate and now is the time because that's how the gets total and complete capitulation total precedents, Yada. Yada so sorry to go over really my policies my mind has been on fire lately it's alright preaching. You guys can find your drive time these last three weekday afternoons, the proper dot com or your favorite podcast platform propaganda report podcast feed. You want access to that extra content that we post every time we posted the patriots dot com slash propaganda report patron. 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1641: Epic Achiever: Why New Year's Resolutions Are Worthless and What To Do Instead to Have an EPIC YEAR!

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1641: Epic Achiever: Why New Year's Resolutions Are Worthless and What To Do Instead to Have an EPIC YEAR!

"Welcome to the conscious millionaire. EPIC achiever show episode numbered Sixteen Forty One look to conscious millionaire the number one show for the conscious entrepreneur who has to make your first million joint. JV On each episode as he interviews a millionaire entrepreneur or world clouds expert. You're listening into the conscious money in their network named in INC magazine. As one of the top business podcasts and heard by twelve million listeners and one hundred ninety countries now join your host host. JV trump the third mindset and Strategy Expert Serial Entrepreneur and author of the number one international bestseller conscious billionaire. Grow Your Business By making a difference hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the conscious millionaire. Cheever show I'm your host and mindset. Coach Marcus Release Anderson and in this epoch coaching listen. I'm going to teach you why New Year's resolutions are worthless and what to do instead and before I get started I would like to say thank you again again to everyone for all your continued support with your help. The conscious millionaire epic achiever show is continuing to rise in the rankings. And I just WanNa say I truly appreciate you and I M honored that you've been sharing the content of the show and these epic coaching lessons with others. Please keep doing so now onto our lesson. New Year's resolutions our garbage. They're worthless they're useless. They suck their satistics. Show that only nine point point. Two percent of people actually achieve resolutions permanently and that over eighty percent fail by February. Yet if you ask anyone that you know they will have some sort of resolution concocted by New Year's Eve these facts. Tell us that while everybody has something that they would like to change or improve in their life business very few of them ever do so long term. Now hear me out. I'm not saying this to try to shame. Anybody or make anybody feel guilty. But until we look at this subject honestly and objectively. We can't hope to be pragmatic when it comes to solving it. We must be willing to look at our past behavior and failures if we have any hopes of overcoming them indeed in this way adversity is a gift. Because it shines a light on our our inadequacies and become a catalyst for change if we are willing to do the work. The definition of Insanity Albert Albert Einstein famously said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results this year with this information in this coaching lesson you can break the cycle while there are literally hundreds of thousands of reasons. Actually those are excuses that keep keep people from keeping their resolutions. It comes down to a few fundamental flaws. 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There will come a time when somebody will be discouraged from trying for the last time and I do not want that to be you. This EPA coach lesson is for anyone who wants to create a permanent positive change following a simple tried and true method that I've used successfully Salihi with countless other clients for years. The very first step number one to write these things down number one a goal goal is only as attainable as it is specific. So let's take a classic New Year's resolution and say oh. I want to lose weight and get in shape that that sounds fantastic fantastically vague. If he went to achieve a goal. You must plot out exactly what you want to achieve with a metric that that is measurable if you say I want to lose ten pounds of body fat or I want to increase my business by thirty percent you now have a very specific metric. Great can be tracked and now enforced the second step without a deadline. Time means nothing if you have a resolution that you want to achieve by the end of the year. That's likely too long of a timeline. Why is that too long? You ask. It's too much time and there is no real sense of urgency if you give yourself an entire year mentally a year. Seems like a long time away which encourages us to procrastinate estimate and say things like okay. Seriously tomorrow I'm really going to get started. And I'm going to actually start executing on X Y and Z and I mean at this time taking the previous example of wanting to lose ten pounds or increase your cells by thirty percent when we add in the time component. It makes the goal much more real by. I haven't goal of doing these things in three months it crease urgency to reach the desired outcome. And now you can reverse engineer and measure where you should be by a month one by month to and notably the third month conversely if you procrastinate or make multiple halfhearted attempts starting January. 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Pulsar woman: It's not a bird, it's not a quasar, it's...

Science Friction

35:56 min | 10 months ago

Pulsar woman: It's not a bird, it's not a quasar, it's...

"This is an ABC podcast scientist. Have you felt this looking back. I think I was suffering from imposter. Syndrome quite convinced they were going to throw me out. We've all felt at heavyweight but on still bold Iva to he this particular person I've as words and resolve to do my best so that when they threw me out I wouldn't have a guilty conscience. The thing is heard. Bist was seriously impressive. Welcome two sides friction in national sights wake across Australia on the Tesha Mitchell so this episode begins in the late nineteen in sixty s at the radio observatory in Cambridge in nineteen sixty seven the new instrument was perhaps the least glamorous tennis cope ever built. They colluded washing line. Describe where at Cambridge University and it was to be operated fulltime by one person ago the graduate student who helped to build it Jocelyn Bell and Jocelyn Bell now Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell elating astronomer with along and a lustrous Korea is on the cusp of a warping discovery very annoyed L. Prize winning find in fact using a telescope. She's helped to build from scratch one designed to pick up radio frequency signals from an Atta space doesn't look anything like the Csiro Parks Telescope which is a big dish. This looks more like some sort of agricultural frame a a big version of what you'd find in vineyard. Maybe a vineyard that doesn't grow grapevines instead. It's sprouts radio aerials. Yes in fact more than two thousand of them. It was huge fifty. Seven tennis courts would have fitted into that area. You were building this. Yes they were actually using this telescope to look for quasars because they twinkled this thing specially designed to pick out twinkling things mm-hmm that one particular set of twinkling things court Joscelyn's I and she went on to detect pulse is for the first time time one two three four the first four ever identified by humanity. She's going to tell that incredible story. He end end what pulsars these dense energetic hearts of collapsed or did stars have allowed us to understand about the universe but also more like how growing growing up amidst the troubles of Northern Ireland shaped her life and how Jocelyn reconciles quaker faith with her scientific valleys days but I want to start with what first happened when her and her supervises discovery was announced to the world because get ready to GASP ASP when you head worked at the discovered pulses. You got a lot of attention. It was sort of extraordinary position for each day student to being you were in the media. You were being interviewed by journalists. What was it like bit. If a baptism some of fire I imagine there was a lot of interest by journalists. What was the first reaction of Supervisor Dr Tony Hewish. It's absolute nonsense. You don't believe this at all. It must asked me something artificial. Nothing nature could do this so you're just believe it as long as you possibly can and typically the interview would have both my thesis adviser. visor Tony Hewish and myself there and here we can see Dr Tony Hewish who will tell us more fight it and they'd ask Tony Hewish about the astrophysical significance of this discovery with optical telescopes when is limited to arrange observation about here was made. It has kind of got a greater distances. Everybody's first three actions were that it must be manmade and then they turned to me for what they called. The human interest second reactions not really voice very lied. Were were. Perhaps it's little green men another civilization. This was really as a young female sex object. What were my measurements bust waist hips AP's please. How tall was I would. I describe myself as Blonde Brunette or blonde hair. Colors were allowed. Apparently how many boyfriends did I have at wants. It's all this kind of thing not an ounce of science in it was pretty grim and I would have loved to have been really rude to to them particularly the photographers who asked if I could undo some more of my blouse buttons for them. You know you're a Grad student haven't even written your thesis. You'd need references assist from your lab to get another job. You haven't got another job. I couldn't afford to be rude to them. Did you supervise a saying no I just I forgot what my vital statistics were. Just didn't know willfully regard willfully forgot. Yes very discovery of pulsars for which you played need. A decisive role is a most outstanding example of how in recent years our knowledge of the universe has been dramatically extended did so therefore. I don't quite understand of not understood why you haven't become embittered about what happened next. In nineteen seventy seventy four you'll supervisor and a colleague won the Nobel Prize for the discovery that you had been a K- part of you with the second author on that paper and yet you. You seem to have been perpetually philosophical magnanimous about that. Your name was not on that. Nobel prize is and yet you were a K. member are but I was a student on the Nobel Committee didn't look at students. Do you think that's the reason why Yes oh yes. Yes yes novell. Winning work happens in people's Twenties and thirties. That's well known yes but the there's a supervisor around an electoral ritchie the key figure the picture that we used to have way back of her science was done was a senior male often with a fleet of Minions Nyan Speedy Grad students or technical help or what have you and if the thing was successful. The supervisor took the credit. If the thing was unsuccessful the supervisor took the blame on the other. People just didn't feature. He's what Jocelyn Supervisor Antony Hewish said of the win without Jocelyn lighter onto the baby a a I mean my analogy really is a little bit like when you when you when you when you when you plan to ship of discovery and you go off and somebody up the mouse tied says Landho- that's great but I mean who actually aw inspired it and an conceived it and decided what to do when and so on I mean there is a difference between skipper and crew an controversy for many he told the BBC this to to be honest. I didn't think it would matter who'd be my student. I mean it was a serendipitous discovery because such a piece of equipment had been set up. I mean the discovery pulses was unavoidable. Once that survey had begun that was the way the Nobel Committee was thinking at the time to agree with that no I don't talk chilly and when I've had students working with me their their name has gone I on the papers for instance because they're the ones whose careers need launching but that wars the picture of science for quite a while so it wasn't about gender. You don't think it was about high rocky. Yes they didn't know my gender. They didn't really need to know my gender. I was only a student is in many of beg to differ and think that you will deliver grinding justice yeah but I've done done very well artificial because I've got every other price that moves a lot more fun because there's parties most years and possibly a lot. Let's start lists dodgy than a noble prize with all the formality that goes with that not just the formality the aftermath you're expected to a half wise opinions on everything under the Sun because you're a Nobel Prize winner in something says a lot of pitfalls there but let's go back to the actual discovery of pulsars the team wasn't looking for what they found back in nineteen sixty seven and and if it wasn't for Joscelyn's acute is they may well have missed a weeds hit of signals altogether. The University of Cambridge had one computer the whole university it had less memory than a laptop today and unoccupied a big room. You know it was really really primitive and very few people had time on its we certainly didn't so our data kmart on reams of paper chart rows and rows of paper chart with red squiggly lines over it and I read these squiggly lines to get my data yes. This is the thing about astronomy which intrigues me visit. Uh It's so abstract in many ways you feeling in the dock with the help of your dad with the help of numbers with the help of charts what's and you'll try to read meaning into that data extraordinary meaning so you get these charts and what was that moment when you thought yeah well. I was being incredibly thorough and most of the things I so I could understand but there was one this one one little anomaly occupied really a very small fraction one in one hundred thousand but it was on the normally that Kinda stuck in my brain onto finally my brain twigged. I'd seen this anomaly before and then you could go back through the relevant bits of charred. Co Yes it was there on that day. Owen Owen it might have been there on that day but it didn't actually notice it but it was absent for three or four in between and absent for another two or three and then here's the one I've just seen a blip well well. I I called it scruff. It was a little bit of signal. That didn't make sense. It wasn't what I was meant to looking for and it wasn't the kind of interference you know that you working with radio will be aware of so yeah okay so you have this little bit of scruff scruff and then what do you do you know. How do you probe further. You've got this telescope pointed deep into the universe yeah and you don't really we know what you're looking at. One of the first things we did was to get an enlargement of the signal about the wretched thing whatever it was went on strike for a month and then finally one day we got it and I thought it was a string of pulses blip blip blip blip blip blip. Yes because pulses are almost like time. Cape is in the universe aren't they. This make entity of course the first thing is you think the something wrong with the kit so you're busy checking it out and that was the really scary bit for me because I don all the wiring and I thought my God I've got some wires cross literally. They are going to throw me out. We'll come back to that imposter syndrome feeling that it's shocking but understandable yeah that this could have banning therence with the telescope from some earthly object it could have been except upped the stars. Don't keep a twenty four hour clock. The stars Keeper twenty-three are fifty six minute clock. They get almost half an hour earlier earlier every week. I'd been seeing this stuff whatever it was for a few months by then so it looked as if it went run with the stars the question was what artifact could mimic that motion so what is a pulse shooter had she come to know water pulsar actually actually ease in the universe this this sort of dead star if you like. I mean energetic for for date object but a dead star Star. That's exploded and kind of collapsed in on itself. That's right yes. It actually took a work by quite a few astronomers depend on what they were but one of the important things was finding one in the middle of a big glowing massive gas called the Crab Nebula in the Constellation Taurus and we knew that was the remains of a star that had exploded about two thousand years previously and we knew there was something funny looking in the middle so when that turned out it to be a pulsar that kind of made sense so we recommend it was one of these big stars that explodes in the explosion the core of the star gets compressed I and shrinks right down to be about ten kilometers radius tiny in in this game or of a universe absolutely tiny and yet. They're quite massive so so. They are incredibly dense yeah did I he he described once the the density of a neutron star pulsa at least is he's the same I help people imagine it's the seven billion people on the planet shot into the head of thimble. Yes pushed into a sewing thimble. That's right doc nominal but that's only the average density. The center is much more dense. It's just impossible to fathom it is it's unimaginable. Schnabel Yeah and yet you spent your laugh imagining such things. Why did they discovery this discovery that you made with colleagues. How is it become a portal onto the universe since it's useful for testing Einstein's theories as well as having very interesting interesting physics inside itself you we've already alluded to the density and produces some very extreme physics so that's interesting but but these things also have very strong gravity and so we've been using them to check out Einstein's theories of gravity which so far checkout remarkably really well gravitational waves Atlanta's hall size black holes of sort of the sisters of pulsars. If you like black hose alike the big sisters sisters big brothers pulsar isn't massive enough to collapse itself into a black hole but if it gathered onto it a lot of material at probably they would collapse into a black hole so this quite close relationship there but for me one of the really exciting things was they find gravitational national waves from a pair of neutron stars orbiting each other and as they orbits they send out these gravitational waves they get kosher and kosher and they finally merge urge in one quite strong burst of gravitational waves gravitational waves those ripples in the fabric rick of Space Time were I predicted by on Stein and I take it back in Twenty fifteen making big headlines in twenty seventeen. The detection action of gravitational waves after the merging of two neutron stars made the news too when neutron stars been super super fast. I they become pulsars. Jocelyn You mentioned a couple of times imposter syndrome. It's interesting to hear you acknowledge that now now you know you've seen laid a rich and fruitful career if they president of the Royal Astronomical Society President of the Institute of Physics President of the Royal Society of Edinburgh trail-blazing path in all of those arenas as a as an astronomer end as a woman and yet the impostor hostessing drum has felt potent to you from that time why yes certainly when I was a Grad student I started life life in the northern part of the UK Northern Ireland Scotland north of England and suddenly almost by accident but I thought I find myself in Cambridge which is way darned. South frightfully cultured very suave. Everybody's very confident and I feel a a bit like a a Yoko from the outback you know now. I have subsequently realized that the Suave NECE and confidence is entirely an act but they did it on on us myself from the provinces. I wasn't savvy enough to Suss that out initially and I thought oh they're terribly bright. I'm not that bright. They've made a mistake admitting me. They're going to discover their mistake and they're going to throw me out. I I know work in Oxford University and this is something something that in places like Oxford you have to look out for with new student yeah profound anxiety and I think women yeah really take that to heart. Yes I think women I'm in a more open to it than men highly self critical yes and perhaps less good at putting a brave face on it to be honest tomorrow. Aquatic Childhood Northern Ireland Belfast born born while the Second World War was being waged still worn born while Northern Ireland was wrestling with it signed deep divisions with the troubles that shape here the net result was I wanted out and a teenager. I couldn't get out fast and we lived in a small town where everybody knew everybody else. Where you were your parents daughter I find that claustrophobic and it was a community where a lot of people were scared of science. I think because they were afraid it would contradict the Bible Bible. We parents weren't Catholic. They weren't Protestant. They were quakers. They were quaker quakers in Northern Ireland. Deliberately put themselves between the two communities as a bridge bridge. You get shot by both sides saw that's a burden to carry but it needs doing somebody's got to do it not generation quaker yeah weird science and science education feeding to the quake a world view as you were growing up the quaker worldview particularly in England was fairly liberal. Well very liberal and the attitude has been that as a quaker. You're not told what you have to believe. You're told to work it out out for yourself and it's also accepted that it's quite likely that your beliefs will evolve a bit as you mature so you actually say it is interesting parallels between the quantum onset as its cultivated as a community and the scientific mindset yes in both you're actually working relating to other people sometimes working with other people developing your ideas be it religious ideas or scientific understanding with with other people. I know a lot of people have a picture of a scientist as a alone male with a bad hairdo working in a garret but actually there's very very little of that good hairdos and they work in teams exactly yes so you're batting ideas around within the team mm-hmm to try and understand what's going on with what you're looking at or to try and understand why you're kid isn't working for instance so a lot of it is teamwork and in in quaker. ISM you'll find people saying well you know. I don't think I really believe that but you do. Do you think I do do I didn't use to but I think I do know on so that this interchange going on all the time but this nothing rigid in quaker ism that you you have to subscribe to provided you thought it out and got your position. Your position would be respected. I guess if you ended up with a position that was two different on every topic you might feel you were in the wrong place and take yourself off to some other denomination but not what's broadly the way quaker ism works where it is A. God then feeding your conception of the cosmological world well. I don't think anti believe in a creator God am. I don't think I believe in God that controls the world for you you know so. It's no good praying that you pass sure exam when you've done no work for it that kind of thing. I don't believe in an interventionist God but I think I do believe in God. That's kind of supportive sportive to help you through situations not by changing the circumstances but by strengthening you so it's a more intimate relationship relationship between God and yourself. Yes that's right an enabler amore divider yeah excellent. Thank you know Tasha Yup interesting. It was an interesting interesting time when you were growing up not lace because the backdrop of Northern Ireland's troubles within was there but in your taints I think when you were fourteen retain the Russians launched the first artificial satellites Putin again so that's phenomenal sort of situation to have around you and you turn up at high school and wake number one. What do you discover happens on Wednesdays. Oh yes that was very interesting and I think probably is typical of experience for women of my generation in the UK. It's the first week off secondary school and Wednesday morning morning. Message goes round the first year class that this afternoon the boys to such and such a room and the girls to another which I initially thought was sport Nasr by their separating us but in fact they sent the girls to the domestic science room to learn cookery needlework on the sent the boys to the Science Lab Learn Science Ni- choice no choice no discussion. That's just the way the universe was and I my parents had promised me that I'd get to do science in secondary school so I was very disappointed but the domestic science teacher wasn't hearing anything about any change. Thank you very much and I think the head teachers telephone got a bit hot because has not only did my parents call him but so did one of the local doctors who had a door in my class undead there was a third set appearance and so the next time the science class met there. Were three girls think this was a first the teacher made us sit right under his nose in right up against inst- his desk is clearly thought we were dynamite or something yeah dangerous dangerous. Yes going to disrupt the class if he didn't keep rely on us. We did physics. Stop first term without really an awful lot of effort. I came top of the class. Ha of course you had a very different experience when you ended up at a quaker boarding Schooling York doc and and over the years having talked a lot of scientists. It's often one K. teacher. Yes it has a defining influence in their lives jobs and that Boone's on well into their adult life. Yeah I was at a girl's boarding school and girls schools goes goes. Boarding schools often have problems getting science teachers and we did. We had a brilliant physics teacher who'd come out of retirement for a second time to to teach us but he was superb. E quickly recognized that I could do physics and on one of the things he allowed me to do which wouldn't be allowed by health and safety these these days is he allowed me to go into the physics lab in the evenings with nobody else around and play with the equipment. One of the things I decided to do was is to make a lovely big charter of the magnetic field Rhonda magnet and of course she takes more than one night so I started the first night working on the bench second night. I couldn't get it lined up to carry on and I couldn't work out why I suddenly realized the magnet drawer was under the bench where I was working on. All all these magnetic fields were coming through the bench and during the day people had been in the drawer. The magnets were all rearranged magnetic field was different and that's why I couldn't continue my plot a lot of the things you learn for yourself they really stick well they do and and and we don't often get to have that sort of self directed exploration in Hansson Science no now we wouldn't these days either in Britain because of health and safety yeah that's right and it's highly formulaic and it's all very structured election and stuck with curriculum. I'm not exaggerating somewhat but that was my experience I think that's probably true to a fair degree. Accept these days kids get to do projects which are a bit more open ended and self directed when you go to Glasgow University was at a shock then you'd been in this this girl school. You'd had a supportive physics teacher. You've been directing rounds. Experiments as a teenager was a shock to get inside that lecture hole whole way. You were the only woman in my final two years. I was the only woman in the earlier years where other women are aren't but for the junior and senior in your honors I was the only woman doing honors physics at that time in Glasgow. It was the inquest tradition that when a woman entered entered the lecture theatre all the guys whistled stomped catcalled Bangladesh ask made as much noise as possible and it's one thing facing that in a group of women and you know walking in together but walking in your own it was tougher but blushing of course would increase the volume of the noise and I discovered that you can control control your blushes. I've lost the technique but I know I could do it and I did. Do it. Regularly see you walk in. You know sorta pretending you don't hear offering no reaction to them. Just walk in and take a seat. You could've walked at that point and you didn't why because I knew at that stage in fat anew from my I mid teens that I wanted to be a radio astronomer and getting a physics degree was one of the steps central steps along that road so I had to get that physics degree dogged yep doesn't do badly in life lock engineering astronomy in your country and as probably early on the twelfth if women in no no no I can give you the figures good the figures I have worldwide figures from the International Astronomical Union and I find these figures very important because they prove behind tote the it's not women's brains that are deficient if you look at the worldwide data on women astronomy the word averages about seventeen percent female of professional astronomers under strategy is right on the world average. Wjr The other English. Speaking Countries are clustered just below Australia. This is the first hint that we're dealing with something cultural and then his Argentina Argentina is phenomenal. South American countries in general have quite high proportions of women so do the southern used to be Catholic it countries in Europe France Italy Spain whereas the northern European used to be Protestant countries they very very few women Germany and the Netherlands silence and right down the bottom surprise surprise are India and Japan which are in single figures what's going on in Argentina at something like video forty eighty percent. Isn't it yeah there. I think different things probably going on in different parts of the world. One issue is hope prestigious astronomy seen can have all the man gone to engineering because that's considered more prestigious which is is not why astronomy has quota women or is it because ause. Argentinian women's delivered near their parents and the parents can help with a child minding K. or is it because there are lots of state date childminding facilities or is it because this great diversity of incomes and there's a lot of poor women who are very happy to come in and be your nursemaid made cook do the laundry while you go off and be an astronomer. I think there's probably lots of different factors and different ones way in different countries race but it's really interesting to see that data and gradually over the years. All the numbers are ramping up. You know a percent or two every few years certainly the physics community which is the one I know best could benefit from more diversity diverse divall sorts not just gender because it's very well established. I know that if you have a research group that's diverse with people coming out the problem from different angles. It's likely to be more successful. Alana a more monochromatic group. Shall we say a less diverse group that that's now very well established in business in research and all sorts of various areas. It does need good management such a group. It's harder to manage than a group of people who think like you but his ultimately much much more successful so I think one of the things actually is to get more scientists trainers manage good managers of groups which I'll probably get lynched for saying but think actually that's important. We'll muddle bench. Scientists might good ladies but you have loved leading that sits aims. There are some bench scientists that probably won't be leaders but actually really an awful lot of people can be leaders with a little bit of encouragement and assistance along the way but yes. I have enjoyed it very much. Led a number of organizations changed number of organizations. Do you have the phrase here serial offender. That'd be a serial president. I quite like looking at how organizations are functioning and saying well. You know if we adjusted this just a little bit. It would actually go better and would never have discovered. I was good at it if I'd been a regular scientist a regular mail scientists without any disruptions to my career but because because I have to do lots of different things in my life of actually got quite a range of experience which turns out to be useful sometimes it is a benefit uh-huh to career breaks or doing other things you know the only job I could get was as a such and such so okay. We'll do this and let's do it to the best of my ability and see what I can learn from. It will make it work. Damn Jocelyn Bell Burnell. Thank you so much for joining me. It's vein such a trait to talk to you. Thank you Natasha and Dame Bell Burnell visited see Saros Parkes Radio Telescope for the first time while she was here in Australia. More of half of all the pulses that have been detected have been detected by parks national sights has landed and we are asking you to dive with a virtual reef this year it's going to help scientists understand and classify. Carl's on the Great Barrier Reef Bia citizen scientists head to ABC dot net dot what I use slash science week also coming up if you're in Melbourne from September science friction live is coming to the Melba Museum. I cannot white for that. Stay posted. We'll put the details on our website. Nick show. I'll be coming to you from Hobart Baker Straight Science Festival with Mona Fonda Data Mathematical Gambler dive wash love to hear from you. Tweet me at Natasha Mitchell and thank you to Melissa Mason Engineer Oh and before I go also hi for science wake the ABC science is bringing you a stack of unsung secrets from science and I thought I'd snake mining here. It is the Deacon Little Day Pie and there's always more to the story spices full of secrets. I love thinking about the wiring that keeps us going the national science where he's an unsung secret of science now. This year marks the seventieth anniversary of the death of a scientist. I whose name you know will really well. We all do then. I'm Einstein on Yup Malaysia marriage on Stein what what does that mean. Albert Albert Einstein the most recognizable scientists of the twentieth century if not ever he of quantum physics fame minute climb and a Nobel prize. No I really do may Malaika on Stein's first wife she and Albert made his science Gedin Gedin scenes uric and fell in love and I shared a love of physics to Malaysia had been one of the first girls in Austria Hungary to study high school physics and she was the only woman in the polytechnic class together in March nine hundred one Albert wrote how happy and proud I will be when the two of us together gather. We'll have brought our work on relative motion to a victorious conclusion. Why does he what's he signed me our work on relative motion now not too poor to find a point on it but that's the work that led to the famous special theory of relativity which describes the constant spate of law. Russian has spice and time intimately linked which led to the general theory of relativity which pretty much changed our understanding of the universe versa nearly everything in it multiple accounts of Elbert Malaya's loft to give a now confirmed by collaborated on scientific projects on mathematical problems wrestling with them lighting to the night and hers support his scientific career on track when he was flying when she became pregnant Senate Elbert road imagine how lovely it will be when we will again be able to work together totally undisturbed Malaya's name never repeat on any of Elwood's famous papers and her legacy is debated to this day more Shia sounding board or a formidable collaborator as Elba's find skyrocketed. They relationship crashed Albert had an affair with his cousin Elsa who relied married Helena. My Big Albert is now a fairly famous. Albert has devoted himself completely to physics. It seems to me that he had a little time. If any family meriva raised their two sons one with debilitating schizophrenia and she night out mourns the loss of their daughter who other was adopted dad who died. It's not clear when they divorced. Malaysia is reported to have conceded making contributions work public but Albert Oh but pushed back calling her a non entity stating no one will pay the least attention to your rubbish. Most of the letters from Elba to Malaysia have been being preserved though they were suppressed from publication bodies estate for decades sadly though few of Malaya's latest to Elbert remain slow parts of her early life in science along side him will always remain a sacred an unsung sacred

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The Relativity Revolution: Alberta Einstein and the making of the modern world

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The Relativity Revolution: Alberta Einstein and the making of the modern world

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We've all been taught that Albert Albert Einstein in his famous equation are extremely important to our understanding of the universe but how exactly is never quite clear scientists however I have a pretty good idea about why is tying himself is important in some sense. Physics now is a victim of its success. We've been so successful than describing such such a wide range of phenomena the finding the experimental data that show us what those weird features actually are is very very challenging much more challenging than what Stein finished in the Early Twentieth Century Einstein. One set that a problem can't be solved by the same consciousness that created it which may be another another way of saying that once in a while we need a genius to solve the big problems someone who can make a great leap forward in our understanding of something. Einstein seems to have made at least two great leaps at pretty much the same about one hundred years ago. One League showed that space and time are linked. The other Lee said that mass and energy are interchangeable there you have it e. equals MC squared. The glass. Half full part is the theories we have right now actually do a pretty good very good job for us in lots of the practical kinds of situations where we physics to be telling us how to make decisions and producing technology for US so one example would be the GPS device which most people are going to probably the US. When they walk out of the theater? Today is something which Einstein theories played a role in helping to develop space and time mm-hmm mass and Energy Einstein's ideas have revolutionized both the way we think about the cosmos and how we live our lives today today on and ideas a discussion from the Stratford Festival. About what exactly it was the great scientist. Figure it out and his importance today you. This is the relatively revolution Einstein and the making of the modern world. Good morning everybody. Thank you for being being here. And welcome to the fourth installment of the CBC Ideas Stratford Festivals Series. We're calling the disrupters from Darwin all the way to Donald People people who have up ended conventional thought and today as mentioned we're looking at Albert Einstein whose work changed the way we think about the universe today and with us is a very a well-versed Panel Doreen Fraser teaches in the Department of Philosophy at the University of Waterloo and her areas of special interests are the philosophy of science and the philosophy of physics. She's also an affiliate member of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo and a member of the Rothman Institute of Philosophy at the University of Western Ontario. Chris Smith is a professor in the Department of Philosophy at Western University and Director of the Rothman Institute of Philosophy. His main interests are in the history. The End Philosophy of physics and the philosophy of science and last but not least is Bianca d three faculty member at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics and a professor at the University of Waterloo. Who is trained in Germany but today she is highly respected researcher working on uniting to great theories of physics quantum mechanics and general relativity? Please welcome our panel. We thought would be a good place to start with some words from Albert Einstein so if I could read you a passage that that he wrote about how he chose to become a physicist he said out yonder there was this huge world which exists independently of US human beings and which stands before us like a great attornal riddle at least partially accessible Tori inspection and thinking the mental grasp of this extra personal world presented itself to my mind as supreme goal. I just wonder how these words resonate with you today during if I can start with you sure so. Those words make me think about the leader part of Einstein's career in in particular when he was thinking about quantum theory and so he'd already at this point in his career I'm thinking in the nineteen thirties made the discoveries. Uh of the special theory of relativity in the general theory of relativity for which he is perhaps best known and he was thinking about still thinking about quantum theory and he was unsatisfied. Ride with quantum theory at the time because he didn't think it lived up to those ideals that you were talking about. And he was interested in a description description of the way the world was and he was unsatisfied with the description that was coming out of quantum mechanics so even at a later stage in his career he was still striving and still trying to get back to a place where he felt like he detained that ideal of understanding. The world is best as we can. It's human beings Bianca's that's still how scientists approach the world the physics. I think also for me it was also a big motivation to understand. What is out there? And it's very fascinating that we are here bone to us but we know so much. Actually you know it's really fascinating that we know is that the Universe is eight. Point eight billion years it's a huge thing Lots of fascinating things going on in the universe but it's really fascinating signs and generally gives us these breath methods and ideas to actually discover things which threatened even the longtime ago very owned any he kind of Ima- imagination and we'll get to those ideas Very shortly but before. We do that in looking at Einstein's early early days in in the beginning before people knew Einstein was. Things weren't so poetic. Chris I understand that he when he came out of the Zurich Polytechnic. He took forever to find a the job and in fact head wished he had had never been born because it was so difficult he was the only person in his class to not get an academic position immediately after graduation and everybody knows that he was a patent clerk. He was working a day job and in the drawer of his office at the Patent Office. He kept a file of all all of the work in physics. Use doing and while the jokes is that he called this his department of theoretical physics and it was probably the best department in Europe. Five five groundbreaking papers that appeared in nineteen o five while he was working on a patent clerk and so there's been a lot of work by Einstein scholars sort of honor thing. What was going on and we've discovered a lot more about Stein by looking at his correspondence by looking at his books and things and one of the things that clear? The people have done a lot of work. I'm trying to sort out. What his methodology was? What was the approach that was so fruitful and I think one of the things that early Einstein was very good at doing was seeing how now there are problems that arise in different areas? That don't quite fit together. So at the end of the nineteenth century there were some parts of physics that were very well understood the theory of electricity and magnetism and light the theory of thermal physics statistical physics and mechanics there these three different areas and I-i-in Stein's papers found problems at the overlap between those different areas and so you can see the series of papers that he presented in nineteen o five as very very fruitfully finding spots where this overall picture of nature just didn't quite fit together and his terrific isolating. Okay how do we then resolve. These is problems. It's like you have a jigsaw puzzle. That doesn't quite fit. One of the things he did was carve away extra aspects. Serve get rid of pieces of the theory. That didn't actually need to be there. And then you can put them together. That's something that I think is really characteristic of his early work during the one. Yeah so thinking about what. He did really early early. On one of the ideas that he thought was the very revolutionary one out of all of the amazing ideas that came out of nineteen five was what he called the light. Quantum hypothesis apotheosis. So Chris has just mentioned that electromagnetism the theory of electricity in the theory of magnets and how they work was very well established by nineteen hundred red or so it was thought but the revolutionary idea that Einstein had is that the then current theory. That light is a wave like a water wave that's continuous and flows is not all there is to the way light behaves so his really revolutionary hypothesis was that light is also a Quanta Quanta which means it also behaves in some instances as if it's a chunk of material and not a continuous wave that's out everywhere everywhere so that was revolutionary because it went against the the Think the dominant view at the time of the way light behaved and what it was so you brought brought a plight so we might as well get this out of the way now. which is the you know if there's one thing that people everybody knows including today about Einstein is it's e. equals MC squared so? So can we just for the benefit of the very few people in this room. Who Don't know what that means? Can we get a very brief description of what it means. Bianca can you try give it a try. E MC squared so we have. Es Energy it's physically description of things. Your own energy is needed to get things done and stands for us and sees a velocity of light. It's a huge number. That's what's I wasn't kilometers per second. And so if you compare it you get an even bigger number and the point of this equation to say that everything which has mass even if it doesn't seem to have any energy because it just standing here like the slot glass of water it automatically has an energy and this became hugely influential. Because this exhortation auteuil basically led to the idea You could convert mass into energy on the other hand at energy it says has mass and so the first part you could convert Maas us into energy. But that's part of what goes on practical things and very unfortunate things because that's physically ideas which underlie nuclear bumps and nuclear nuclear energies or vision and fusion sets art of Mars converted into energy was also on our son played actually a very important oil also later and influence on politics and vote events because it's this formula that physicist indeed indeed on a number of them said could be a possibility of a nuclear bomb. That of course had a big impact picked on events Fisher and we will talk about that as well in a bit but I do want to stay with those papers in Nineteen Zero Five and Chris you've talked about about how the revolution there was just the scientists but it was actually in the way he explained the science. Could you talk about that a little bit. So the nine hundred five paper where he introduced a special relativity something something to encourage all of you to read the first few pages of because it's a brilliant way that Einstein sets up the paper. He focuses on the concept of time. And what we mean when we talk about time of distant events Safai talk about time and someplace that's nearby I can just think of it as associated with the time on my watch but if I talk about time I'm somewhere far away. I have to I ask what does it mean for something to be simultaneous with the reading of my watch now and it turns out that this is one of the places where there is conflict between the theory of electromagnetism the theory of mechanics if according to electromagnetism. There's a finite speed of light. There's a maximum speed at which a signal can travel if you think about setting up time using light signals. Which is the fastest thing we can use? You actually have have to think about time differently than if you had a signal that goes infinitely fast and it was by thinking through that issue that Einstein was able to resolve a set set of deep conflicts between the theory of electromagnetism and mechanics as it was thought of it that day. And so it's really going back to very basic concepts. Everybody thought they knew how to think about time. But Einstein said look we actually because of the pressure of the problems that are arising and combining these two theories we need to rethink think this very basic concept and in the opening of this paper he describes how he rethought it how he came up with a different way of thinking about time in just very accessible way and one of the things. That's really wonderful. A lot of its papers. Have this sort of character. They kind of recapitulate the process by which he solved the problem bloom and as a philosopher. It's also I love this kind of writing. He's very philosophical in a way that a lot of physicists aren't so he sets these conceptual problems up shows his wife their problems and then shows how to resolve them in a way. That often doesn't involve a lot of technical virtuosity. Obviously capable of that. was that at the time I mean when you look at the work of other physicists during it was somewhat common in the eighteen hundreds also because physicists. At that time we're thinking we're coming to terms with electromagnetism. We were just talking about the theory of light and also thinking self-consciously about the methods they were using. And how they we're going to come up with original concept so so one of the things about science is in order to make progress at certain points. You need to figure out some original concept just that human beings haven't bought a before that original and so one of the things that makes it interesting to study. Philosophy of science is thinking about how what is that scientists succeed and the different methods that are used by scientists to come up with wholly original concepts so just to pick up on what Chris was talking about the the concept of simultaneity how the idea of what now means is relative to an observer and how you're moving and how to different people who were moving in different ways can disagree on what now means which is disagreeing about whether to things that are happening are happening at the same time for not that seems so fundamental that it's not surprising that human beings had assumed that now is the same for everybody since it's the beginning of physics as far as we know and then he took many more years and the work of many other scientists including a number of astronomers who had to travel across the world but he built on this to come up with the theory of general relativity which we should also do a quick review of because it essentially rewrite newtonian ideas about the universe. So can I ask one of you to just briefly. Explain the theory. Sure so the general theory of relativity the way Einstein started to think about this was the recognition that once you change your idea of time. And that was forced upon him by special relativity to postulate blitzes Bianca. Explain them you. He realized that the way we thought about gravity with Newton also had to be modified. Because if you think if you recall Newton's theory of gravity if you've encountered that before there's the basic ideas that two bodies interact the given moment. There's a force of gravity between them. That depends ends on their mass. But what do I mean at a given moment at what time am I talking. And what's the distance between these two bodies. Those are things that become problematic. After Einstein Line has introduced special relativity so he a bunch of other people realized that immediately. You're going to have to have a new theory of gravity to make it compatible with special relativity one of the things that's fascinating about Einstein's that he took a very unusual approach to this problem. He actually thought that there is a deeper problem. Within the way we thought about Newtonian Tony and gravity. which is the idea that there's a link between what's called inertial mass and gravitational mass so inertial mass just measures? Here's how hard it is to accelerate something so if you apply some forced to me the amount by which I accelerate will depend upon what's called my initial mass. That's just the resistance to change in state of motion. The gravitational mass on the other hand is how much gravity do I produce. Just as a result of my mass now in Newtonian gravity. We just used one letter m. mm-hmm because these happen to be identical. They have exactly the same value and Einstein thought that this was a bizarre coincidence because conceptually these two things are very different. Why would it be the case? These two things are actually tied together and so he thought that there must be something in the structure of gravity. There must be something in the theory theory. That explains why these two very distinct concepts are actually won the two sides of the same coin and so he called this idea the principle of equivalence. This this is something that he tried formulating in a variety of ways. Starting in one thousand nine hundred seven all the way up until nineteen fifteen and it was one of the guiding ideas that he was distinct extinct pursuing but the helped him find the theory of general relativity and in the theory of general relativity. One way of thinking about it is the inertial structure How you think about things responding to forces and thinking about gravity it's all combined in space time geometry and so you think of space based on geometry is curved and bodies just follow the shortest path in space time geometry so the mass present will determine how much space time is curved space time is curved will determine how bodies move and so not very vague sense? That's how you have sort of inertia and gravity combined in theory a second during just want to quickly talk about how revolutionary this idea was at the time given that Newton was kind of the God of the universe at the time and so I think maybe it helps to think about maybe a couple thousand years of science and even going back to the ancient Greeks and the the concept that the ancient Greeks in particular aristotle had of our place in the universe and the idea was that the earth is privileged and at rest in the center of the universe. So if you ask these questions that Chris was just asking about what happens if you try to push Chris or if you try to throw a rock and you ask why the rockfalls to the Earth Aristotle would say look it falls to the earth because it's a heavy object is trying to get to the center of the universe and center. The Universe is the center of the Earth. This then changes dramatically with Galileo who bianca mentioned and others in the Renaissance and rethinking that idea and thinking introducing the concept of of gravity which Newton and Galileo and others did and then you can recognize that the earth is no longer stationary in the center of the universe. But it actually I'd actually moves so that was a revolutionary idea about our place in the universe and then the next big revolution. Is this idea that you don't have gravity as a force pulling the rock to the earth anymore you have space time being curved. It's the rock somehow following the contours of space time. And that's what's happening when you feel. The Roth wanted to come back to part of your question which was about astronomers and the role they played in confirming harming the theory. And we've been talking about time. Timing is also important so Einstein was very lucky that the eclipse expedition took place in nineteen. Nineteen there've been an earlier eclipse expedition. To the the reason why you had to look at an eclipse is that you can see the bending of light in a gravitational field that that bending of light will affect any stars that are behind the Sun but obviously if we're just looking at the sun we can't see the stars you have to wait until an eclipse to see how the stars location shifts if student the bending of light and there's a expedition plan for nineteen fourteen. The Russian army did not believe that the Germans there with high precision equipment were there to do experiments and observations so the eclipse expedition and actually only went off in nineteen nineteen. Einstein had a theory of gravity avenue in nineteen fourteen. The got the wrong answer for light bending and you're still working on it but by nineteen fifty and he had the final theory which had them the right answer and in one thousand nine thousand nine hundred and that answer was confirmed. That's when you really became an international celebrity but there's one aspect of the timing which is that if it had happened in nineteen fourteen it would have seemed like he was on the wrong track would have been the end of his career and it would have been well potentially a one thousand nine hundred after World War One and so part of the important. Portent timing of that result was that it was a British expedition that was confirming this esoteric theory of German physicist. And this really launched. Einstein Stein is an international celebrity and he was seen as somebody who is rising above the nationalistic interests. That had prevailed with a lot of people in the scientific community contributing forbidding to the war effort on both sides during World War One. And we'll get to that in a couple of minutes but I want to bring him to today on a bring ice today in particular to article of clothing. That's on on one of our panelists here today. Kristie WanNA show the audience. What you were the size face on there? I just I wonder why. Why does this thinking persistence face on your socks? I think one thing. We have to acknowledge that Einstein was actually very careful and self conscious and playing a role and he crafted. Craft role is the sort of Bohemian. Singley sage I think. Most people think of Einstein mattresses genius and probably the most brilliant person in the twentieth century. I don't know if that's true but I think that's the image we have of him also. Is someone who would be wise witty. A sort of comfortable presence and sort of contributed to the the broader culture at more than two scientists but as the sort of saintly presence almost I think that's mostly meth and so a lot of the work of Einstein's Weinstein's scholars looking at his correspondents looking through what he's done. I think he was actually very self conscious and crafting that so I think he's much more interesting and more complicated than that. But I think that's one that's the image that has persisted during yes so I think part of the image it is. We've been talking about notebooks and his ideas and how he started off early in his career in the patent office by himself working through these papers by I himself so part of the image is of the loan scientific genius who through thinking really hard and having these original brilliant insights. It's is able to move science forward. But I think that's only part of the picture even for Einstein so it's it's important to recognize that scientists working communities and and so the although Einstein did make many important contributions and we've been talking about how he saw things differently than most other physicists. At the time he also was working with with other physicists and other mathematicians as well so part of the what he needed to do to formulate general activity properly west have the in geometry right. And so that's in particular something that he needed help from his colleagues to be taught the right mathematical skills that he didn't have so sciences. This is a social process. It's not just a lone genius discoveries. I wondered if you could comment on this lease Molin. Who was supposed to be here today? In in an essay about his decision to become a physicist he cites some of the big questions that grabbed his attention. He says that it is the fact. That measurements return definite values. Just a consequence sequential manipulations that the universe wait almost fifteen billion years for the descendants of the ape to decide to do experiments before its wave function. Collapse is the world it just information waiting to be decoded. Are we any further along in answering these questions. Since the time of time. Somebody WanNA tackle that. Well I guess this is a citation refers to the problem of quantum theory which in this case in the early beginnings Phantom Sealy was or even much more counterintuitive Zengin relatively special relativity and part was at that to to explain it in the standard interpretation of quantum sealy eighty you divide avoid into two parts and one really quantum part and the other is classic part and classic apart this fair basically we he also sit and observe this indeed is ideal as it needs to be always somebody just physically ourselves to absorb of something so that we can actually measure as a sing to get some definite views and that led to ideas that maybe if nobody measures anything you you know what what would be the reality of the world today to some extent still unresolved. It's an interesting tension because Pu isn't measures universe speaking of quantum theory I is there a distinction equality or nature of Einstein's work the early phase. The later phase is there. There's a debate over that during try tackling. Yeah so I was speaking earlier about Einstein's later ideas and his his later work so this theory of quantum mechanics that physics students learn at universities is undergraduates was pretty much a formalism was was figured out by the end end of the Nineteen Twenty S. But it's beyond mentioned we're still today grappling with how to understand what is telling us about what the world is really like at the quantum level so in the nineteen eighteen thirties. There were debates in which Einstein played a prominent role about how we should be understanding understanding quantum mechanics so one side. Neal's four had the idea that you had to wait to measure something and what quantum mechanics was really about was in the business of describing how quantum MM systems like electrons interacted with our measuring devices. And so you got this big picture of how the whole the whole the whole system worked together I. I was really interested in knowing what was happening with the electron and he didn't really care so much about what was happening with the experiments of course you wanted to make sure you're getting the right numbers numbers being spread out of your mental devices and confirming your theory. But he was really interested. In knowing what kind of thing the electron was and what kind of properties it had and so that was the reason why he was dissatisfied with quantum mechanics and he thought it wasn't giving the complete description of the electron and all the properties. You said it had and so. He was in a small minority of physicists. who were dissatisfied with quantum mechanics at that time for that reason so we think of Einstein is being being someone who is very successful but it's important to realize that he had these very important ideas to him which were not accepted by other physicists? and which are still not accepted accepted by by many physicists and just to go back to the earlier Einstein in some sense also too radical and quantum theory so the one of the nineteen o five papers papers which he described to a friend the most radical of the theories was the one during mentioned earlier in which he argued that light sometimes behaves as if it's composed more like particles as if it's a little bit earlier balls and so the that paper was something that is in effect the most ambitious application of quantum ideas for a large number of years so mocks plonk is really the person who introduced the idea of the Quanta but was actually much more conservative than Einstein regarded the one thousand nine hundred papers a fluke. He said well he's such a creative physicist. We can allow him a few mistakes. You said this a reference letter. He did get the job but this was not high praise but this ended up being important discovery so in that sense Einstein was much more radical in his early days and seeing the implications of the the idea of quantum in the early phases of quantum theory he was one of the leading figures and then he later became one of the people who skeptical of the way the theory was developed. You're listening to ideas on. CBC Radio One in Canada in North America on Sirius. Xm On our end and in Australia and around the world at CBC DOT CA slash ideas. I'm Nola Iot the idea of relativity. There are no fixed points has been with us for over a century now but it still making our heads spin even if we don't understand much of what Albert we're at Einstein figured out. There is no misunderstanding. The revolutionary changes he's brought to our physical world cell phones and lasers and GPS asssistant all depend on Einstein's physics. And there's even more to come while we explore the possibilities of the mysterious little understood world of of quantum mechanics from the twenty nine th Stratford festival a discussion with philosophers Chris Meek and Doreen Fraser and theoretical physicist physicists. Bianca Dietrich this is the relatively revolution Einstein and the making of the modern world so if we look now to his nonscientific ideas I just wonder how much of his I guess detest. I guess that's the only word I can think of for for chemical weapons or the idea of nuclear war and his support for the plight of African Americans. How much does that play a role in making him into the cultural cultural genius persona that we know today and it's so popular still kristen so I I think it's a hard question to track exactly how he established? There's this kind of identity but I think it starts in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Let's really win. He started appearing on the cover of international magazines because of this stunning confirmation Asian of this theory of gravity and I think the aspect of that. That's most important for establishing. His sort of cultural status is that he was a German scientist whose results were confirmed by a British expedition and during World War One he had been actively opposed to German scientists contributing to the war effort so during in World War One he had made a stand and said German. Scientists should not be contributing to the war effort and this really set aside from a lot of the other members of the academic elite Berlin which he had joined some of them are supporting the development of chemical warfare and he was dead set against that so in that sense I think he established himself as kind. You've and I think it's a very appealing vision. That science is an international endeavor. It's something that's a pure search for truth and I think. He sort of appeals to that idea a science and then I think he was also very self conscious and picking choosing his battles in terms of what causes he identified with later so although he act so he famously wrote a letter to President Roosevelt saying that the United States should be concerned about the possibility of building a bomb. That actually wasn't a letter he he wrote by the way. It's a letter to Hungarian. Scientists who are less famous wrote they realized correctly that Roosevelt would read a letter for Mine Stein but not from S- Lard. You've probably I heard of Roosevelt hadn't either but he recognized after the war and when he became more concerned about nuclear weapons and was an advocate Vika for nuclear disarmament. That he could be he would be conceived of as the father of the atomic bomb because of equals MC squared and his prominence in physics. So when he was signing manifestos in favor of nuclear disarmament he was using this cachet. And like I said. I think he was very self-conscious and choosing battles and that also helped him to to establish this identity Doreen did he. Did he live up to the this notion that we have of a cultural. What we know is a scientific genius? Well I I think actually the the example of signing this letter to President Roosevelt in nineteen thirty nine on the eve of war to warning that based on experiments armaments that had been done just over the past six months. It was really bad timing in nuclear physics that just prior to World War Two. It became apparent to a few physicists. That it might be possible possible to split the nucleus of Adam and create a atomic weapon. So he wrote that letter and then later on he had he had second thoughts about it after the war and he regretted doing it. So there's there's a conflict for Einstein and I think probably for scientists in general because on the one hand you have the image of science as pursuit of truth and not being beholden to any sort of national interests of which the Eddington expedition in one thousand nineteen to the eclipses a good example but then in real life. The reason why we do science is to produce new technologies these some of which are beneficial to humankind some of which are not beneficial to humankind. So that's something. All scientists need to think about in struggle with and try to imagine what the possible possible consequences of the science. They're doing could be as far as practical consequences for human beings. We have an impressive number of questions. And I thought that this is sort of related to this discussion discussion. That we're having right now. So the question is today's profoundly. Anti intellectual climate with leaders like trump Ford and Boris Johnson would would Einstein have achieved the same same level of social influence. Stardom go ahead please. I think we still do have Stephen Hawking who passed away this past year there are other scientists who established this kind of public image. So I think we still do have a yearning for intellectual stars who embody a kind of scientific spirit and we want to see that. They're changing our views of the world. And I think we put them up on a pedestal. To some extent I think whether they have cultural prominence actually political power is a different question and one thing that Einstein lived in a period so the twentieth essentially a huge change in. How scientific research is conducted? So we live in an era where there's massive projects through required to probe job kinds of physics questions that are really on the frontier. So those require massive investments from countries or international collaborations. That's not what science was like when on Stein started so I think there's also a way in which scientists rely much more on the support of nations. They actually have to advocate politically leave for funding for research and have much more of a political role in that sense so Einstein was still working at a time where most scientists could do their research urge at the university where they worked on tabletop or even in the desk as European clerks. But that's not the way science works now so the question is is it actually part of the responsibility of a scientist to be a leader also on issues of their social and political. And is it it. Does it have any effect if they do. I certainly now. We also live in a world where expertise is highly specialized so I was trying to the point a few minutes ago that the work that scientists do does have implications for society and when the work that scientists do has those implications. I think definitely Scientists are obligated to talk about it and to talk to the president and and make the president aware of the possible implications of their work work and even if they're not as monumental as the possibility of building an atomic bomb. They're still an important role for scientists there Bianca during the I think to come back to us or to an earlier point what made eight Stein quite special. This is also concerned virk on on actually explaining his science to the public and in this way of doing experiments he could. He could actually do that. Ed and he took a lot of effort. And it's easier to explain actually special at electricity in general relativity quantum few today. But I do think. It's a part of sponsor ability of the scientists to actually do these kinds of things and explain what science is going on so because scientists to take water in a advising petitions and so on but it only be part of a democratic poses. So it's basically the wider public actually should also tie to stay informed armed on on these things and I don't know I do think that at the beginning of the twentieth century yours nineteenth swamped. The nineteenth century was ah going into US and the big interest the public also for for signs basically so these sets my nine hundred ninety ranking ninth. I'm became very famous. It was basically. You're interested in understanding signs so that has to be part part of the equation both from the scientists to explain what is going on but also for for everyone to to try to keep informed. Now we know what happened to Einstein's correspondence but here's a question from someone who's wondering what happened to Einstein's brain when he died. There's a very interesting story about this but unfortunately I don't know the details it was preserved and there's a forget who wrote the book there's it was then transferred from Princeton to somewhere else. There's a book about somebody driving across the country with Feinstein's brain in jar and unfortunately I don't remember the point but yeah it was preserved and studied. It's kind of a morbid. You know anything. I think they would just move on. Who who coined the term space time? That was probably been Kofsky so this was actually one of Einstein's Stein's teachers and Zurich who once called him a lazy dog and correspondence because Einstein apparently didn't go to classes Makovsky recognize is that Einstein's nineteen o five paper. Einstein wrote it in a way that was very. ALGEBRAIC is a series of equations but Makovsky realized that underlying that Algebra. You could actually think think of it more geometrically and there's a famous address to the German physical society where he says space and time will disappear as ghosts. The only thing that will remain space-time this combined quantity and this actually gets to another point which might be worth raising which the theory of relativity is in some cents a horrible name. It suggests these connections with relativism in other contexts. Certainly was part of the cash as a lot of people picked up on this and thought the theory of relativity implied moral relativism or other other views. I think actually Makovsky an Einstein Makovsky once suggested that the theory should be actually and I thought this was apt should have been known as the theory of absolute variance not nearly as catchy but actually probably better in terms of capturing the content that there's there's still time that's an in variant and then space and time separately are relative and the follow up question to that is what is it precisely. And how do I feel it in my kitchen for example well hopefully there aren't objects moving really high relative loss. There's some great questions but I really apologize that we can't get to every one of them because there's a couple more others that we want to get to one that I'm personally curious about and has come up in a lot of the writing about isis much of the work that he did and much of the thinking that he did early on was really done just with his mind and a pencil and occasionally the help of Violin. Oakland and I just wonder what we all can whether we're scientists are not sort of draw from that era business and hyper productivity like during the can we what can we take away from that So yes if you go back to the early days of Einstein the patent office and as Christmas describing earlier having his special drawer where he kept his physics papers and then probably the rest of his Patten. Papers were big mess on his desk. I don't know but having the time and by himself to think through things when his supervisor wasn't paying any attention was clearly important for him to be able to do his work so having not I guess thinking today having that time where you're alone and you're not connected to anyone else either. Virtually or in person is still important for having having making progress in science and other areas. I'd like to. There's a story that I love about Einstein's discovery of general. TV which actually also illustrates is it. Sometimes he was driven by competition and interaction with other people so I mentioned earlier that he had a theory of gravity. Nineteen fourteen that gave him the wrong result for the light light bending so he had been struggling with formulating new theory of gravity since one thousand nine hundred seven in the summer of Nineteen fifteen. He went to girding in which was a bit like going to the Primer Institute. Nowadays it was like a concentration of the leading researchers in Germany in mathematical physics. And so he gave a talk about the theory of gravity which you struggling with. And he still hadn't worked at all out. He was unsatisfied with the theory is existed at that point and there are a number of problems the he was struggling with but he was giving a talk about these problems in front of the best mathematical physicists in Germany and so he comes back to Berlin and gets a postcard from David Hilbert Bert which was the best of those who said I've gotten interested in working on the theory of gravity and what ensued was a race because Einstein now felt that he had the best mathematical a physicist in the world probably breathing down his neck. So there's a series of talks in November nineteen fifteen so Einstein usually didn't give you've four talks in a month that month gave a talk every Friday. Each one was something like forget what I said the previous Friday. Here's a new idea. The final talk in that series was the talk where he gave what we now think of as well almost the final form of the field equations of General Relativity and postcards were zipping back between Berlin then girding and during this time with Hilbert saying oh I think I have a new idea Einstein saying no this is and so he was really pushed in that last bit by this correspondence with Hilbert art and Hilbert twos credit never claimed so Hilbert also ended up with a paper formulating the final version of the field equations. He never claimed priority so he always credited as Einstein's Feinstein's theory. There's quite magnanimous. Because there were some some theories that he might have come up with it exactly the same time or possibly before possibly before but I think this is actually one of those cases where you go to the archives and this is actually a funny twist back in those days you would actually literally cut and paste manuscripts so Hilbert Hilbert gave a talk. I think it was a day or two before. Einstein's final talk and scholars have gone to the archives and there's pieces cut out of the thing that Hilbert would have read probably because he just had the equations typeset and then put them into new paper. But that means it's hard to actually tell exactly what was in that paper but I think I think the the opinion the people people who've said this you're GonNa Rent John Satchel. I think they think that Hobart still didn't have quite the final version in that paper. He gave the published version has the final but that's after Einstein had published a couple more questions one from the audience. And it's at one. We wanted to ask as well which is given dark matter and energy in the Gulf that still exists between relatively relativity and quantum theories. What are the the prospects for a grand unified theory of physics? I guess it's sort of like the holy grail right and that's how it was thought of back then. Ah Looking for a grand theory to explain everything to the number of people looking for. I think it main problem said the series we have jeff like general relativity and quantum fealty. Say explain a lot virk so beautifully for explaining explaining sings which which go on if you put a lot of lot lot huge amount of money and bidding celery turfs and find signed new particle Hicks particular but it was actually predicted a long time ago. The Seventy S and also journal Liberty us. I mentioned agent all the predictions that we have which remained were from relatively confirmed song increasingly this finding gravitational waves so to to interpret these data and to predict these data basically all what is needed a serious genetic diversity and then basically physics of stars which kind of quantum quantum theory so and developing unified theory which we believe skilley necessary because to some extent racing. Post quantum field theory and to Jenin. Relatively do not give us complete explanations it would be nice to have experiments that show us the direction. I am curious whether this contrast strikes US accurate Bianca so one of the things that I mentioned that I think was wonderful. About Einstein's earlier work is that he looked at places places where there are overlaps of different ideas and physics that didn't fit together what Einstein had. I think we don't have enough now. is also experimental data about and what happens in those overlapping areas that gave us some guidance about how we have to combine the ideas right so I think it's. It's not just that you had when you combine thermal thermal physics and our understanding of light that you knew there was a tension you also have experiments said. There's something that's weird here that you have to be able to explain and I think in in some sense. Physics now is a victim of success. We've been so successful than describing such a wide range of phenomena that finding the experimental data that show us what what those weird features actually are is very very challenging much more challenging than what Einstein finished in the early twentieth century and Law Promising Action might be Eh cosmetology. And there's an amount of data coming in a particular something which is quote took the cosmic microwave background which comes from physically quantum fluctuations and might be something coming coming from this direction and these things go so far back begs that it comes from the big thing and it's a big bang is one of these events which we say makes necessarily quantum theory of gravity. So there's a singularity single levity as we call it which follows from gravitation theory so physically worse. Their Space Time itself doesn't exist whatever the needs and and suddenly there's a universe this and experience and we hope to understand this process much better. This was a quantum theory doreen theory of everything. Well it's a SORTA glass half full glass half empty stories. We've been hearing the glass half empty which we don't know what to do. There's lots of ideas about how to put together a quantum theory and gravity but it's not clear what the right way to go. There is the the glass half full. Part is the theories we have right now actually do a pretty good very good job for us in lots of the practical kinds of situations nations where we want physics to be telling us how to make decisions and producing technology for US so one example would be the GPS device which most people are going to probably use when they walk out of the theater today. it's something which Einstein theories played a role in helping to develop so the glass. Half full is that we can still use the theories. We have now for lots of practical purposes so to end off I wanted to just sort of go right right to the beginning and give you another quote. Actually this one from a biography about Einstein is Walter Isaacson who said that Studying Einstein can be worthwhile because it helps us to remain in touch with that childlike capacity for wonder as the saga of Sciences. Heroes reminds us. These traits are vital for this new century globalization. Oh belies ation in which our success will depend on our creativity. So he's talking about the importance of the capacity for wonder and I. I wonder whether that was a luxury in today's signs world or whether wonder still important to being a scientist beyond Kobe will start with you. Well certainly it's a big motivation to become scientists. I think it does stoodley also big war just often because of the huge specialization. Wonder happens said to more technical. It's much harder to explain grief. Well I think what I find endlessly endearing about Einstein that he rethinks fundamental concepts and is willing to revisit to revise them as needed and part of that as a child like capacity for just going back to the basics. And saying why. Why did we think this? What's the motivation and rethinking all these kind of questions that sometimes you think? Why can't ask those those silly or something? But they're actually sometimes the most basic questions as a philosopher. I mean it's similar to the kinds of basic questions that we sometimes focused on reading Einstein also in his correspondence. It's just endlessly imaginative interested in creative. And so that's always inspiration to go back to that kind of mindset and to to have just figuring things out as the main goal is he's really driven in that regard in that comes in his correspondence and that's just wonderful to to have that revived in you so I think. Creativity and originality is one reason it's so pleasurable to study Einstein in style but also history science more generally and we we know now or at this place. We're talking about where we need to put together quantum theory and the theory of gravity. But we're not unique in that respect and you can look back at the history of science and see all these points at which scientists have come up with these original ideas and how they they were the building blocks for a new way of looking at the world and so that's why it's worthwhile studying history of science great. Thank you very much for your insights and audience. Thank you so much for the questions Great to have you here. You've been listening to the relativity revolution. Einstein and the making of the modern world a discussion from the two thousand Nineteen Stratford Festival featuring philosophers Chris mink from Western University and Doreen Fraser from the University of Waterloo loop along with the theoretical physicists. 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Jerry Jones, Baker Mayfield, Bowl games

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Jerry Jones, Baker Mayfield, Bowl games

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Oh Welcome to Two Thousand Twenty Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the Collin cowherd show the heard heard here. I am your host. Jason Mcintyre in for Colin who. I guess partied really hard last night. He told me he would be listening this morning though. Hope everybody at a safe phenomenal New Year's Eve My parents always love to joke that Jason New Year's Eve amateur hour in never want to go out on New Year's Eve. So what did I do. I started New Year's Eve by playing eighteen holes of golf. Yes something I had not done. Jeez probably eight or nine in years. It was a little taxing. My back is hurting this morning but always look love to try. New Things ended the year with a bang and today. Oh boy we got. It's a Fireworks Ladies and Gentlemen Couple Bowl Games. Although I will rue the demise of New Year's Day College football remember when it mattered when there were like like eight bowl games on New Year's Day just sat there flipping the channel. That's no more. There's just four games today and they aren't even really good which means you'll probably be listening to the show so we got a lot today. Couple of great guests to break down the chaos of the NFL. Coaching Carousel We all wait with bated breath on Jerry Jones to make a decision on Jason Garrett. I play a lot of Texas holdem with my buddies. And I like to say a poop or get off the pot and Jerry Jones. Come on what are we waiting for. You know. I can't imagine a scenario where Jones keeps Garrett but again folks we're talking about about a seventy seven year old billionaire. You know. This is a guy who loves the attention and there was no way he was gonna fire Garrett or part ways with Kierra whatever you WANNA call it. He was never going to do that on black Monday. Jerry Jones needs his own special time for that he needs the attention and all the focus on him. I've got a mind blowing. NFL playoff stat. That you have to listen to. It's coming up in about eleven or twelve minutes I know the heard audience loves to gamble. This is the most important stat for wild card. Weekend I will give that to you shortly and finally got some great advice for Baker Mayfield. I recently signed my third grader. Ah for Jujitsu and I sit on the classes. I bring my computer and I watch and make sure you know. He's having fun and the the Jujitsu teacher are offered an amazing pearl of wisdom. That's GONNA apply to Baker Mayfield. I know you guys saw the video from the bengals game so stick around for that but I I want to start the show here. You guys are aware of what happened in Cleveland this week right. Obviously Freddie Kitchens gets dusted there's a parting of the ways with the general manager. But what the media's not telling you is that the nerds are taking over football and I'm not saying that in a bad way. That's not a derisive. Ace of word. NERD is cool. I love to nerd out now. Okay whether it's College Football Bowl Games. NFL drafts whatever. Vert is being a nerd. Now is cool. It means. You're probably pretty smart right. It means you're maybe rich or building some wealth. And there's a decent chance if you're a nerd. You're you're dating and instagram model. Because that's kind of how the Internet works right now listen. I don't think I could have built a website sold it and then pivoted to radio on TV. If I hadn't nerd out on sports so there's nothing wrong with being a nerd but the nerds folks right now are taking over football and the football guys. They're kind of being shown the door. That's what happened in Cleveland. The story behind the story is show me the analytics. And if you don't I'm gonNA show you the door. And what went down Cleveland. This is going to be a thing moving forward in the NFL. We've already seen the nerds takeover baseball okay and again being a nerd. That's cool sabermetrics. Hello they made a movie called money ball which was phenomenal okay. It flipped baseball on its head and analytics politics have taken over baseball. Anybody who's playing baseball right now. At a high level in the majors is winning because of sabermetrics analytics really spreadsheet baseball. Now you can argue whether or not. That's that's good for the sport. That's another discussion but the nerds of one out and then you look to the NBA. Right now folks. It's a three point or a layup. That's what the efficiency numbers say. That's what the robots and the computers are telling teams shoot. Three's shoot layups layups. Don't do the mid range we'll pull you out of a game if you shoot a mid range jumper. I actually went to the Lakers. Mavericks Game Sunday night out here in. La and You know you get. If you get the media credential you get to go on the court beforehand and I'm there with a A guy who works at a rival network. He's a big gambler. And we're courtside. And Jared Jared Dudley and the Lakers are warming up. And I know Jared Dudley a little bit 'cause he came through F s one and I talked to him And if you guys listen to my Saturday radio show On Fox Sports Radio Radio. You know I'm a sponge when anybody coach player. GM owner comes through the building. So I got to be friendly with Jared Dudley and he comes over damps me up on on the baseline and talk a little bit about the NBA and the holidays. And my buddy says to jared Dudley. Hey I saw you working on your floater. You floater game needs. Some work worked. Say Jokingly and Jared Dudley of the Lakers says who cares about the floater. It's all three layups baby. That's what analytics has done to the the NBA again. We can discuss if that's good or bad but hello Golden State Warriors. Hello Houston Rockets. Not In the playoffs but analytics is taking get over baseball and the NBA. Football's kind of pushback. However the Cleveland Browns Front Office debacle this year it all came down to analytics versus the football guy? Okay now guess who survived in Cleveland. The analytics guy who just happens to be Paul Depot Desta if you saw moneyball which I referenced earlier he was the guy that Jona Hill played very nerdy very very by the book. Okay this is a guy who went to Yale. He's a slave to numbers. He survived in Cleveland. The football guy. John Dorsey Lifelong football guy. He got dusted folks. If you're not on board with the analytics if you're not on board with it's spreadsheet football and the algorithms that make up all the stuff you're in trouble okay. John Dorsey was football lifer I I looked him up just to get some background on John. Dorsey the browns. Gm who got fired and this guy was an Alpha football player who played linebacker for four years drafted by the the packers. Okay gets a job as a college scout is in the Mike Holmgren tree or family. If you will. Mike Coleman leave Sir Seattle John Dorsey he goes to Seattle with and then he goes back to Green Bay ends up in Kansas City. But what happened in Kansas City to football guy it was a bad communicator. There was a story that They ended up cutting Jeremy macklin a wide receiver and John. Dorsey did that by leaving him. A Voice Mail Great Communication John Dorsey. Anyway he comes to Cleveland and bills. It's amazing roster and this time last year right. The browns had finished strong long in the regular season Baker. Mayfield look good okay. And then they add Odell Beckham and everybody says this is one of the most talented rosters in the league if you Google most talented rosters in the NFL in two thousand nine hundred the browns are top. Ten heading into the season built by a football guy. So what happened this season. Well the Brown did not do very well okay. They had a ton of talent undeniable but their coach was abysmal. Okay and Baker Mayfield regressed. They lost a lot of games. So season comes to an end in the owner. Big Money Guy. He's got a decision I just want to make. Do I stick with the football guy. John Dorsey who built this awesome roster or do I stick with the analytics guy who loves a good spreadsheet and he says he was successful in baseball. Okay if you've seen moneyball hey deeper desta and the as built something awesome. Didn't win a world series. But he did very well went to the dodgers. Turn them around and like one year they hadn't been to the playoffs. I think in like sixteen years depot Desta thirty-one-year-old GM. I'm not being mean calling him inert already guys nerdy and guess what he wins instantly so this guy has been crowned and this is where we're headed in sports. Okay if you guys follow me on twitter her instagram and all this stuff you know. I'm big on gambling. The biggest thing I learned this year and I'm doing the gambling guy at F S. What I do these videos for college and NFL picks all the time Go unlock it in the gambling. Show episodes all in on gambling and the biggest thing I learned in sports gambling in twenty nine thousand nine was if you don't have an algorithm or a model. You're going to be in some trouble. I'm not saying you're throwing darts but unless you've got a machine behind you trust me the Vegas sports books they all do. You're going to be in some trouble the analytics the robots are taking over folks so the Cleveland. Oakland Brown's decide. Well I go with the football guy or the analytics guy and you know what made browns owner. Jimmy has limbs decision a lot easier. He looked in his division. And did you guys notice what happened in Baltimore. I'm sure you guys aware Lamar Jackson and the Ravens Best Team in the league super bowl favorite now. But what's the story behind the story in Baltimore well this year. John Harbaugh the coach of the Ravens. who was on the hot hot seat last year? Remember with flacco struggling. He brought in a twenty five year old Yale graduate. Who Majored in Behavioral Economics? Okay a twenty five year old Yale graduate to make all of the fourth down decisions all of them. How do you think that worked? They just GONNA ask cash. How do you think it worked out fourth down for the Baltimore Ravens in the twenty five year old Yale Grad? Wow Look at the Baltimore. Ravens were the best fourth down team in the NFL. Seventy percent conversions. Ladies and gentlemen they hire a nerd from Yale he bangs it out on the spreadsheet. What are the analytic say? Go here. Don't go there the Baltimore. Ravens had the most fourth down conversions in the NFL. This year. Seventeen there were seventeen and twenty four seventy percent the robots are coming for the NFL. The robots are coming. They're they're winning and it's not a negative that this is happening. I just want a lot of football is to wake up out there. You've got to get on board with what's happening in the NFL. The analytics are coming and the browns just decided I'm going GonNa let the analytic sky build our roster going forward not the football guy now finally. I want to wrap up. I know you're thinking Jason is a lot of Cleveland browns to open the show. It's not about the browns as much it is about the big picture in the NFL. I just told you it happened in baseball. It happened in the NBA. The NFL is the next frontier now. A quick word before we go to break on Baker Mayfield yet a tough year great stat sat for you here. Guess who through the most interceptions inside the ten yard line this year not Jameis Winston Baker Mayfield three the interceptions inside the tent. Of course it just so happens that I bet them in two of those games and You know Baker Mayfield had a rough year. I Know Colin Beats Up Baker. Mayfield a lot okay. And everybody thinks I don't like Baker Mayfield because of the Cellphone comment I made during his rookie year on the heard. I just WANNA say this. If you've seen the video from week seventeen browns bengals there in the tunnel and see a couple of bozos in the crowd not yelling at Baker. Mayfield You YOU'RE GONNA lose to award fourteen de-pa another fan calls him. Johnny Manziel I believe if you listen to the video and Baker Mayfield shouts back come down here and tell us about face and then something else. It's Kinda inaudible I do. You believe has a bad word. Here's my piece of Advice Baker Mayfield and I'm not talking down to him. I'm just talking from experience. I'm older than Baker. I've been through a lot I've dealt with the bunch of Bozo's and meatballs out there so my son is in Jujitsu as I said third-grader signed him up and the Jujitsu not teacher tells the story so this group of students from a karate class are walking down the street to the DOJ. Oh and as they come up to the corner there's is a man with a horse walking horse across the street and he stopped at the Stop Sign so the Horse is startled by the group of karate kids and involuntarily not. Really just kicks back because you don't run up on a horse. Okay so these guys walk up on the Horse. The horse kicks back. The Star student of Karate class is at the front. And he dodges the Horse Kick Right. Wow out of the way slick move shows off his reflexes the entire classes like oh my gosh. Did you see what he did. He's amazing so they get to the Dojo and they tell the Sensei Sensei. You missed Sammy. Dodger dodger horse. Get Key really is the best. He's awesome. I'll say we look up to them in the sense as upset and says if he was my star student dude he would have been on the other side of the street. Everybody goes silent the theme of course the lesson is to avoid Wade Conflict Baker Mayfield. I know there's fans out there yelling all the time at players and athletes you had that. NBA Guy Yelling. Yelling at Isaiah. Thomas and Isaiah Thomas Witness dance avoid conflict guys every fan out. There has a phone and is recording. I've never seen this happen to Russell Wilson to Tom Brady after two decades Lamar Jackson Aaron in Rogers Baker avoid conflict. Okay go on the other side of the street. Prove you're the best by avoiding it you you can do it Baker. I'm rooting for you. Coming up next here on the heard. Oh boy folks. Nfl Wild Card weekend is upon us. And I've got the most important step before you put any money on any of the games the most important stat on wild card weekend. That's next here on the her. Be Sure to catch live editions. The heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP. Good things don't always happen by default. Sometimes the good is found in the daily choices. 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I'm Jason Mcintyre in for Colin Cowherd. Calverton I waiting for Jerry Jones to pull whole the trigger and decide what he's going to do. I mean I can't imagine Jason Garrett any scenario where he's back but if it happens we will have it for you instantly and I believe cowherd cowherd will stop by his own show to Talk about it. We got Albert beer coming up in about eight minutes to talk about the NFL. Coaching Carousel Lotta strange moves. Doug marrone staying in Jacksonville mildly surprising. I think in a reporter out there last week. said he was getting dusted. Didn't happen Redskins redskins make a move With Ron Rivera. I don't know how I like that but just a follow up on the nerds taking over football discussion from last hour or last segment so Dave gettleman the GM and the giants You know he's taking a lot of heat he spoke with the media and said we've hired four computer folks computer folks. You know what this is. This is ownership saying Dave your old school year old school football guy. You draft running back. Second Overall Brigand some analytic people. What does Dave Do? We hired for computer folks. I love it. Love it all right wild card weekend kicks off Saturday the match ups your other Tasty Buffalo Houston is the first I game Houston always in that first game lines actually come down. Buffalo is a three point dog now two and a half so some early money showing on the bills that you've got Tennessee New England Saturday night. That's a perplexing one. Don't make a mistake there guys. You know what to do Vikings were getting eight in New Orleans. A lot of people are saying saying the saints of the favorites to come out of the NFC going green. They will not be easy second round if they do go there and finally Seattle Philly Philly opened as a favorite and Everybody's Betsy Atl. I don't know why we'll talk about that soon. But before you lay a cent on any of those games this is the most important in-stat when it comes to wildcard weekend okay since two thousand two when the NFL expanded quarterbacks making their first playoff start twelve thirty one and one against the spread twelve thirty one and one against the spread. Straight right up quarterbacks. Making the first playoff start are fourteen and thirty straight up. Now that does not include when to first time playoff quarterbacks battle just just for the record so let let what happened last year Jason. Okay so last year. There were three first time playoff. quarterbacks Lamar Jackson Lost Mitchell trubisky. Bisky lost to Shawn Watson lost. Okay Fine Jason. Let's go to two thousand eighteen. What happened jared? Goff Rams Lost Lost Marcus Mariota here. We go finally Mugabe now. Relegated to backup in Tennessee. Mariota one beating beating the chiefs. It was an amazing comeback. They were down twenty one to three if you remember that game and they came back and won twenty two twenty one Brutal defeat for Andy. Andy Reid and the chiefs. So I'm telling you. Be careful backing playoff quarterbacks. Making their first start. How many of them are there? This cheer Jason Funny. You should ask her audience Josh Allen Buffalo Bills Ryan Ten Ale L.. Tennessee titans now. If you remember ten a hill got to the playoffs with Adam Gays in Miami but ten who was hurt they had to start Matt Moore. They got crushed in Pittsburgh the other first time quarterback in the playoffs is Carson Carson Wentz. Now a lot of you will. The Eagles have been to the playoffs twice. That was nick foles. Both years guys went had gotten hurt both times. So Oh three first time starting quarterback this week Alan Tannehill Wentz just a reminder. They are twelve thirty one and one against the spread dating back back to two thousand and two. If you WANNA bet those guys be careful and know that the numbers are not in your favor. Now I will say I've already taken two of these games. James and I did take one first time quarterback Josh Allen. I back the bills getting three. It's down to two and a half. I I just feel like you know Houston is not very good. I do believe Houston is very beat up. I know they're getting J. What back which is huge? But as soon as. Jj Watt went out. The Texans run defense got shredded. They have a ton of injuries and chiefly on offense will fuller monitor his Health Status get appears. He won't play. We'll always hurt. But the key is to Shawn Watson with will fuller is an awesome quarterback because he's got hopkins underneath fuller deep deep to stretch the field. And it's a big advantage for Shawn Watson. No will fuller. I don't if he doesn't play I'm you know I I really liked Buffalo's chances to win outright the other game I took endless you guys who know me from social media and going on the heard and all those f. one shows you guys know I am a jets fan. I do not like the New England patriots as of right now. I'm on the New England Patriots. They're favored by five and a half against Tennessee. And it's one of those. I can't back a first time playoff quarterback on the road in Foxborough. I'm not doing it. I know the Patriots of looked awful. They were you're laughable in that week. Seventeen dumpster fire against the dolphins. That's got to be one of the worst losses of the BELICHICK era. I mean you win that game game at home against a putrid bottom five team in the NFL and you get a bye in the first round. They lost outright as sixteen in boy favorites by the point spread that was the worst loss in the NFL season. Jason why are you backing. Well I just told you Ryan did go on the road in his. I playoff start. Okay the Tennessee Titans secondary if you look at the analytics thing. The titans secondary is abysmal. It's really bad and Tom Brady. Despite having a banged up Ataman and Mohamed Sanu and that rookie kid from Arizona State you know they have not looked good put value on the Patriots here. Because it's going to be very difficult for Tannehill to move the football against one of the best secondaries in the league. Don't fall for the trap. I just saw Tennessee crushed. Houston Houston was playing backups. Go Look at Tennessee's hot streak. I think they want something like six of eight or seven of nine. Who did they beat? Maybe one good team and it was a fluky game beating the chiefs thirty five thirty to Kansas. Kansas City had two special teams debacles in the final five minutes or the chiefs win that Tennessee. I don't want to smoke and mirrors. Because they have some talent. I love the Kid Brown young young receiver. He's very good. But I'm on New England at. I'm on buffalo the other two gains in the NFC. I'm still a little up in the air on seven and a half is a a big number. I WanNa see what's up with Delvin Cook for Minnesota and I think the game of the weekend. WE'LL BE SEATTLE PHILLY. I don't know what people see in Seattle. I I have no idea. So they're down there. I three running-backs. Pull marshawn lynch off his couch. marshawn Lynch Ch. Ah Two weeks ago was playing video games. Eight hours a day and now he's a running back for a playoff team. Come on get out of here Some leaning Philly. They're coming up next here on the heard bringing in a a buddy of mine I've known him for a long time he's one of the best. NFL reporters around he is Albert breer the senior. NFL reporter for or sports illustrated. He's going to come and he's a big Ohio State Buckeyes Fan. So he's very distraught. We were texting over that Ohio state. Clemson Game I. I can't could tell that falls into the amazing football game one for the books or oh that was kind of ugly and Ohio State lost it more than did they want it. So maybe. WanNa talk about the Buckeyes. But we've got Albert brewer senior. NFL Reporter for sports illustrated joining the heard. Now Albert. Good Morning. How are you how you doing Mac? Great Happy New Year to you. I'm sure you wish your buckeyes were to better spot Really unfortunate loss to Clemson. How are you handling that defeat by the way Albert Albert? Thanks for bringing it up right after that. I'm not handling great. I'll put it that way. I yeah you know. It's interesting because You know when you and when you went to school to place like sort of the sense that was all come together you know and It happens you know quite a bit. I'd say fairly early regularly but whenever team that is It's the nature who'd college team you know you know a lot of the guys are GonNa be gone the next year Especially it's the way it is and well. I remember seeing how that felt like that. You know just felt like that was the best team team in the country and I think you look at the way that a lot of those guys have gone on to produce the NFL. You have a hard time arguing. Otherwise they lose to Michigan state you know and that sort of it for Dan and You know one of the same thing this time around whereas if you look at the guys like Chase Young Khuda Kay dot and all these I really really throws you had this whole thing comes together and then at the end it just doesn't work out. You could argue go ahead. I think any sort of like Shaan way you know I mean great player and I mean man like baby but for a kid they have is Iran that is career and like that You know I just. I don't think it's right. Yeah I don't the rules I I don't think taking a I hope that For something that like you know look like could have avoided it. Maybe but I. I don't think anybody would sit there. And what Washington Game and say that was Jessica offense. Yeah definitely You could argue though if Ohio state shows up in the first half against Wisconsin There the number two seed they blow Oklahoma and then they're in the title game. I mean who was the better team. Thought Ohio State was the better team on the field. They just dot three mistakes that killed him but all right let's get to the NFL. Let's start number one before we get it to the browns. Let's start with Jerry Jones. He were waiting for him to Poop or get off the pot. I don't know it's taken a while. I mean I'm assuming Jerry wants maximum focus on his decision so I don't know maybe it doesn't come today because there's a bunch of college football but I mean what percentage chance Jason Jason Garrett actually survive. Is there any percent you know I would've said no two days ago I would've said no a week ago and if you'd asked me a month ago if they didn't make the playoffs what chance does case now surviving because percents You know there are people that are now starting to speculate Jerry thinking about it and You know I I I somebody theorizing with all these solids coaches sort of running. Is it possible that you know Jerry in in Stephen or potentially putting out feelers to see if you know guys come or not you know. There's a lot of moving parts there and look like this is another thing about the Jason Higher in the first place nine years ago. This is more than a football relationship. This is like a personal relationship between family And the Garrett family and. I think I've said this to you before dame act like this isn't I if he fires. Jason it's not shows because Jason Taylor. It's also Jerry. Jerry was the one who let Jason Into coaching. Meaning the game planning meeting. Then stop when He. It's still a player because he knew wanted to coach when he was done This is the same guy who hired Jayson as the offense before data before he hired wait till his head coach two thousand uncertain. which is I like almost never happens right and then a year later he pays Jason Three million dollars at that point Jason Garrett the office before there was making taking more than the head coach You know and then and then three years after that fire and the guy's boss promotes him which rarely happens in the NFL. And so so I've been the level of investment that sets that Jerry and and Stephen and the rest of the Jones family and turning into the Dallas Cowboys Loyd is in and you know I think in a lot of ways Jerry. Look Jason a huge handprint. Make head coach the cowboys and so I think that's what's difficult about it for Jerry is. It's not just the head coach's failure in this case it's also the failure of twenty investment the best way to try and get this position to job that he's done the last nine years talk with Albert Senior reporter sports illustrated Albert. LemMe let me move on to the Cleveland browns. I opened the show If feels like the nerds are winning in football. Finally we see the analytic skies is takeover basketball and baseball and Paul Depot Desta analytic guys sabre metric guy. He survives the carnage in Cleveland. and I wonder how much the you know the Ravens bringing in that twenty five year old kid from Yale a behavioral science or whatever. And he's making all the foot down calls. Listen John. Dorsey brings in football guys builds an awesome roster on paper and Freddie Kitchens kind of ruins it I don't know is this a victory victory for nerds over lifelong football. Guys I would. I would wait before we made that. I and I'm GONNA say like in a broad sense. Do you think like I mean there's football different because You know like when the on the voice right like in baseball basically working from zero in basketball. They're basically working on zero a lot. A lot of people came in they football and talk. They were doing film study. They were already doing some statistical stuff that we have seen come into other sports and so they weren't working from zero. You know the falls they did there was. We weren't calling it in an expert. Quality control coaches. Are you know And so I think. That's where some of the classrooms on a broad perspective. ASK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CLEVELAND. Here's what I can tell you There were rumblings so only the Dow's organizations ooh and that sort of went back and forth a little bit. The sense I got was that Paul if Polish I'm going to have more tower and he's had the owners you're You'RE GONNA have to move to Cleveland and I don't think he's moving quickly on That could change over the next week or two But he's been working from San Diego uh-huh and my guess is my guest right now would be that the advantageous mine and he probably will remain in San Diego and not move to Cleveland. Avoid that limits. How far up in the organization can really go That said the owners you listen to him and You know they look at how he advised So how how buys them over the last year and he's been writing two thousand sixteen. He wanted them to hire some McDermott. They hired Hugh Jackson accent. How's that worked out last year? He wanted them to hire Kevin Stansky. they hide it. We don't know fancy is GonNa be a great head coach but he got a really good year in his first year as the fulltime before Minnesota this year and so he's been right on certain things which is giving them credibility with the ownership So they do so he does have the rear. It'll ultimately going to be Adams decision on what to do here and I think the key thing is going to wind up keeping it all. This is going to be a line right right. And you know that's the problem we've had all these arranged marriages over the last nine years has almost as long as the team so I think whoever the head coach is whoever they take us and that Tech Tech coach you know is going to say in the way that places structure which is why John Dorsey decided to say okay. I'm out of here and ultimately I think it's as you know the wind up being either. You know Paul Paul deeper desks or wind up getting the guys he wants. He's Andrew Vary from philly and Kevin Minnesota. Yeah Love Josh mcdaniels. Maybe it's Josh mcdaniels. Neither Dave Ziglar Nick caserio coming over Elliott Wolff gets Gets L. With Mike McCarthy's McCarthy's they work together and green bad Coming in you know. I think the key thing for the hasn't changed over the next. Few weeks is alignment is making sure in general general manager and the head coach on the same page and so deep I know it does. It is a factor but ultimately making that decision. And if the guys that do the dance the wanton there aren't the guy's name guys Jimmy wants to Jewish President. They've been in the past. Yeah but whoever it is is going to be the head coach project. It's going to have a huge role in however that things are going to be set up going and the big thing is going to be. We're GONNA pick the head coach if everything's gotTa Line around it. Oh wow great stuff. You could follow him on twitter at Albert Breweries senior. NFL reporter at sports illustrated Albert Happy New Year. And keep up the good work Right that was Albert breer from sports illustrated. I can't get over the fact that he said. There's a chance people on Jerry Jones staff. Think that maybe Eh Jason Garrett survives that would be an absolute stunner for me holy cow. That would be a shocker coming up next year on the heard I got some interesting interesting a really interesting insight on what the heck the Miami Dolphins are doing. I know you don't care about adults. But they are in position to draft after quarterback. Did you hear who. They just hired to run their offense. What on Earth are though by Ivy Dolphins? Doing I got that for you next year on the hurt be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific. You listen to every true crime podcast. Laws days on the Zodiac killer sub reddit and Google so many serial killers. You're probably on some watch list by now you consider yourself a seasoned detective. There's just one thing missing. 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There are people on the staff in Dallas. who think maybe as Jerry drags his feet Jason Garrett survives and I let that marinate over the break and I'm like like all right? Is there any scenario and again. I I think Jason a very poor job this year as in in game coach. I didn't think he was great but again he's like family. So it's tough for Jerry to part ways with a let me again Jason Garrett Nine Years in Dallas To playoff wins. He's basically alternated really good year fullback or average. Really good advocate like the last six years but there oh boy. Let's don't want you to take this the wrong way. Don't come and fill up by twitter. Mentions or my instagram. DM Don't come in there and say you're defending Jason Gary but there is something to the idea of compound interest and gradual growth over over time. You guys don't how compound interest works. TOOK ECON one. Oh one in high school or college and you put a thousand dollars in the bank. You don't touch it. Minimal interest right now interest rates garbage. But you don't touch it you leave it there and it just grows every year that interest just compounds on itself and ten years later you've got more money twenty years got a lot more money and the idea in the NFL. Like the Cleveland Browns. Have where in a decade. They've had six different coaches. There's no compound interest there it is just a revolving door of crap. And I am not saying the coaches were crap. But the idea that you're going to change a coach every year every other year. That's not going to get you anywhere. You got new systems new players new ideas new ethos in the building. Like you want to build on something and having Jason Garrett there for nine years there is the idea of continuity and growth now growth. Isn't always you know. Visible often invisible nine years is a lot for Jason Garrett. But think about you know if you've got fruit. Goro growing on on a tree in the backyard. It doesn't you go out there on Tuesday after putting the tree up Sunday and expect to see you know. Big Apple's on your trees is that just doesn't happen okay you need to be patient. Growth is gradual. It's often mysterious. Because you can't really see it. We got to be patient again nine years. You know this is five years of ineptitude. I could see the argument of let it bake these college football coaches this who come in. Jim Harbaugh the fans in Ann Arbor. They want him gone. This idea that Jim Harbaugh hasn't won a title. Geist guys you see how many ten win seasons he has more than the last two coaches combined. Okay and again. I'm not defending Jim. Harbaugh listen in the big spots. He's been bad but there. Is this idea that you really the growth is mysterious. and I wonder if Jerry somebody's in his ear saying listen and on the alternating theory year Jason's due to bounce back next year. Maybe may be next year's the year and you say this for five years or you could argue two decades and then there's a whole puppet angle of Jerry Jones he wants somebody can control so he can continue. Continue to have the spotlight. I really do think there is something to Continuity compound interest in growth and and. I don't know after nine years of I mean like again I've been banging on the drum Jason. Gary you gotta get him Outta there is terrible but then you you pull back a little bit. You don't would be irrational and you look like Hey maybe there's a case to think about keeping him but elsewhere in the NFL. I I will say this is all this move and I just. I don't understand so the Miami Dolphins they actually had a pretty good year. They started off awful. They were a laughing stock on their way to maybe being one of the worst teams all time Brian Flora's new coach. He starts to clean out the toxic guys in the locker room and of course Ryan Fitzpatrick the Harvard quarterback really a good year and they finished drawing that big win over the Patriots. So would the dolphins do do this week. They went out and hired Chan Gailey a sixty seven year old guy who has worked with Fitzpatrick twice vice to some success but he's been out of football for two years. You're telling me you got the I think they have the fourth pick the fifth pick in the draft. I don't know the dolphins are picking high to tongue ovalles. Lower is going to be there for them. It makes all the sense in the world. You're telling me you WANNA 67-year-old GM who's been out of the League for two years. Who Likes works well with Ryan Fitzpatrick? And you're bringing bringing them in. Is that signaling to you. That the dolphins what Ryan Fitzpatrick I think he started thirty seven as their next quarterback. Is it possible people now. The last time Gailey Fitzpatrick were together. And I know this because I'm a jets. Fan Two thousand fifteen to Patrick was great. It was his best season of his career. But you know what happened at the in week seventeen. They need to beat the buffalo bills to get in the playoffs. And I won't forget this because I'm a jets fan and I remember all the garbage okay from the fake spike touchdown for Dan Marino. To that gutting Pittsburgh steelers lost the title game. Fitzpatrick had a great great year. In Two Thousand Fifteen Chan Gailey was his offense coordinator and what happened weeks. Seventeen Fitzpatrick turned into a pumpkin and failed failed miserably. One score game. Final jets drives interception at the buffalo eight interception at the buffalo thirty four and an interception. End The game. I can't believe the dolphins are thinking of making fitzpatrick. They're starting next year. I'm floored too is out there. You gotta get get to a all right coming up one hour in the books on the heard. I'm Jason Mcintyre in for Colin Hope. Everybody had a great safe New Year's Eve starting to have two thousand twenty right with no hangover eating healthy. You Go to the gym tomorrow coming up next here. Oh Boy Folks College football that championship in ten days. What's going on today? Sadly a whole lot of nothing college football it's hurting. Hello I'm rainbows Valentine and for the past year. My Dad has been coming clean to me about his decades long career as a big time pot smuggler. And by big time I mean pretty. Big Time was sixty thousand like my dad and mom had to live a double life. One is active scoreboards. Numbers doting parents to three kids and the other is outlaws like my parents had a secret room looking zoos. Real Shaker Room Book and you took our screwdriver. My Dad wasn't the most organized criminal he wants lost half a million dollars buried in the backyard and he smuggled during the war on drugs. 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S. one and came out doing Fox sports sports radio of doing some writing for Fox sports digital really fun. I had a great decade great year. Hope everybody else did the same. I'm not much of a Make a list for you know things that want to work on in the New Year. I'm not one of those guys I do have I'm big on lists because I'm one of those guys who writes things down to remember whether it was studying for tests in college what I should say cramming for tests in college You know I like to write things down and I was writing down some college football notes here for the show today and one of the nuggets was for for the first time in College Football History Florida State Nebraska and Miami all had a losing record occurred This came up because yesterday or two days ago. Whatever it was? Florida state played Arizona's state in some exhibition ballgame and Florida state had six turnovers hours and lost and it resulted in them having losing record Nebraska. Miami also had losing records and I got thinking is I'm writing this down man the same way your grandparents talk to you if they were sports. Fans Notre Dame dominated in the nineteen twenties new new rock knee army navy. All those were the programs in the fifties and sixties. I almost a beginning to wonder when I'm old old talking to my kids kids. Am I going to say boy. You guys have no idea how awesome Florida's State Nebraska BRASSICA Miami. Oh those were the programs back in the day I was bullish on Nebraska. This year guys. They laid a massive massive egg. Oh my gosh disappointment MIAMI They can still turn things around they got great recruits in the state. FSU will see. I like the norval higher. Very good move for them but right now it's all about Clemson and the SEC feels like Clemson has taken over college football. I don't know how you quantify dynasty. I don't know if there's a hard and fast this is what a dynasty is but for me Clemson is certainly certainly a dynasty and folks. I gotTa start this hour as you know we got a couple of bowl games kicking off right now Minnesota against Auber not that sexy of the match up Derrick Brown the Auburn defensive. Tackle if you're one of those guys who's into mock drafts. I posted when I did one for Fox. Sports recently Derrick Brown the big space heater in the middle. Just watch him on Aubert. He just moves people around if you don't double team. He's going to rescue. He's not quite Aaron Donald. But he's in that galaxy Auburn Minnesota and then the other game is Alabama Michigan. And we'll get to Jim Harbaugh NASEK But I do WANNA quickly talk about Clemson. LSU In the National Title Game Because folks. Oh my gosh how on earth is LSU favored yeah. I'm going there if the line on. This game is crazy so right now. It's at about four. I'm sorry it's five five and a half when when Lsu beat Oklahoma or should I say chokwe Homa last week and clemson survived Ohio state. The line hit six six six and a half. There was even a juiced seven out there. And I know that because I got it. How is LSU favored by this much against Clemson went a month ago one month ago when Vegas does their hypothetical lines if this team faces team in the playoff Clemson was favored over Lsu a month ago and now clemson defending national champs is an underdog against Lsu? I this is mind boggling. I'm I'm stunned. I clemson at four five and seven a blew through six or even get it. I don't understand how anybody's taken Lsu here so in a month clemson which was favored over. CLEMSON has beaten every team at his face and covered the spread except for WOFFORD which was you know an FCS matchup they said. Sit there. Starters the entire second half whatever over and now the line has moved. By about a touchdown. This is such an overreaction to what we just on Saturday night I'm telling you folks the the only side in this game has to be clemson and everybody's saying well. How did you see what else you to Oklahoma folks? Oklahoma had no business being here remember. They weren't even going to be in the playoff unless something happened namely Utah Losing in Utah got destroyed. Don't tell me about the Utah Texas game last night. It's totally different subject from Utah. Being in the playoff you guys know if you lose your final game of the season and then go into a ballgame. You don't care. Utah was looking at being in the playoff. Okay instead they lose to Oregon they have to go to Texas to play. Play the Texas longhorns. They had no motivation to be there. What are their own players? Last night gave out a quote saying we were looking at it as a trip to San Antonio as if anybody. But he goes there for fun I don't know if we're on Ryan in San Antonio no disrespect. Remember the Alamo but Oklahoma gets obliterated aided by Joe Borough and Lsu and now LSU's favored over clemson remember Clemson beat Ohio State. The the Short Memories Memories people have around here is just hilarious and around here. I mean in the United States any sports fan social media. If I opened the phone lines Ryan. We're not GONNA do this but if I open the phone lines I guarantee you. We'd have people say oh. LSU's a better T- there's all that so much better. They're GONNA kill them. Do you guys remember. Remember a week ago a week ago. The topic was Oh. Is this the best team in big ten history that that was a real story line is. This is this one of the best teams in big ten history. Ohio state was dominant before the big ten title Game Ohio State Ladies and Gentlemen Ohio State was headed toward the number one seed. We would've killed Oklahoma too so Clemson beat the better team and I actually thought and again I said this to Albert last hour like I thought Ohio. The state was the better team against Clinton they just made three mistakes really too brutal penalties that resulted in touchdowns and then the unfortunate justin fields miscommunication with the receiver. That was an interception in the end zone to wrap up the game. I mean Ohio state is really really good. Oklahoma stinks so I don't i. This line. Line is so confusing to be remember. There's an extra week off this year. I Guess College football doesn't WanNa go up against the NFL. So somehow they pushed this game back two weeks which is obscene right. That is huge for Clemson. Huge both receivers Who are potential first round picks Ross and Higgins. I think it's just in Ross and T. Higgins to great great receivers. They both got hurt. One of them is like the entire first. Half of the The Ohio state came a state was hit and hard and they get now two weeks to get healthy for Lsu and I know LSU playing at home basically it's going to it's going to be eighty percent LSU fans. But I just want to ask you this before you run to the window where your local guy and you say oh Gimmie Lsu Gillis you. When was the last time? LSU trailed in the second half of a football game you have to look way back. They did not trail in the second. Half Against Alabama. You gotta go back to the Auburn game. We're LSU trump for about six minutes at home thirteen to ten. And I was digging into that game last night. You can watch watch some of these games if you look hard enough on Youtube and Lsu just made a bunch of mental mistakes The they had turnover on down to the Auburn. One fumbled old punt that resulted in a quick auburn touchdown. Borough who was amazing He got kicked off and it was just one of those not crisp performances from the LSU offense but they had Alabama the next week so Lsu hasn't faced adversity in. I don't know nine nine weeks. Well we just saw Clemson went through. They were down. I think was thirteen. Nothing Ryan or sixteen. Nothing I I thought they were dead. I did live bet them in the middle of the game. Though 'cause it's Consett now thinking about twenty eight or twenty nine straight games Trevor Lawrence I mean. How good is Trevor Lawrence? The other hot take I had from that College Football playoff. There's two games. I I thought Trevor Lawrence is performance was more impressive than Joe. Borough Joe Borough had seven touchdown passes but Trevor Lawrence was just watch straight up warrior. I was so in on that guy I think. I tweeted out Even a jets fan. WHOEVER GETS TREVOR LAWRENCE? They're going to be my second favorite team. He is so easy to root for you. Know he's got the hair flip like sunshine from remember the titans and he's just I mean rush for one one hundred yards. He got hit so many times in that game. And folks that sixty seven yard touchdown run against a defense full of future the NFL players was one of the most amazing quarterback runs. I've seen since I don't know I mean some of the Lamar Jackson Mike. Vick even the Steve Young touchdown run if you guys remember that stumbling bumbling in the end zone like that Trevor Lawrence or I've watched that replay probably fifty times. I put it up. I don't do a lot out of highlights on my instagram page. Because like Jerry Jones narcissist I just want photos of me and take some mine and gambling stuff and whatever. I posted that video because it's just that run I can keep watching it. It was just. How did this guy do this? Just amazing so really interesting college football bowl stuff stuff. I love the championship and as we get set to go to break. Guess what happened in Alabama Michigan. I think it was a first offensive. Play for Alabama okay. I don't know why they're receivers. Are Starting Jerry. Judy just cut an eighty five yard. Touchdown pass on the first offensive. Play play for Alabama Michigan. Got The ball back Michigan. Got The ball to open the gain. The guy win the kickback fifty yards. I couldn't do anything Alabama Obama I play. I think Jerry Judy who is for my money. The best receiver in college football. He will be probably the first or second receiver off the board the NFL draft. You get Jerry Judy. One on one with a cornerback from Michigan Judy. Row Sim eighty five yards housecall Alabama with their backup quarterback seven Michigan nothing. I didn't actually aside in this game. I took the over. Because you don't know how long Alabama's GonNa play their guys but not not really an interesting game unless Jim harbaugh gets destroyed and then everybody will call for his head again but but coming up next here on the heard. NFL Playoff Games on the horizon. Dallas cowboys not in the playoffs but the Philadelphia Eagles Goals are and folks. I mentioned it last hour. There's an incredible stat about first time playoff quarterbacks you've got to hear it can carson wentz deliver. He's never beaten Russell Wilson. 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DC sniper for the first two episodes premiere on January. Second Subscribe Today on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast little snoop ringing in the New Year with snoop. I am Jason Mcintyre in for Colin Cowherd L.. Heard here on the heard. Hope everybody had a great great New Year's Eve safe of course and waking doc to hung over this morning I've seen a lot of jokes on instagram. About how there's pictures of what the gym looks. It's like on January second and it's basically like the black Friday memes of People bum rushing target as soon as the doors are open mm-hmm you always want to be healthy. Start the New Year right. But I don't know how big I am on New Year's Day making resolutions solutions like just soon be good all the time you know plus resolutions don't last long maybe a couple weeks at best But we are here on the heard. It's a new year new decade. And as of now Jerry Jones has Jason Garrett still employed as the head coach for a second decade of the Dallas Cowboys will see what happens with Jason Garrett here remember we had al Breer on last hour who said people in the building are starting to wonder. Does Jerry heavy change of heart and say you know what let's keep Garrett around I mean I don't know how how cowboys nation will take that. I kind of want open the phone lines. But we're not GONNA do that. It just seems to me like it would be asking for trouble again. I did go on a riff last hour about continuity and The value of keeping people in place and compound interest again. We're seeing the opposite of that in Cleveland. You look at this last decade the Cleveland Eveland Brown's had six different head coaches look in their division at the two teams that have been successful. The steelers won head coach. Mike Tomlin the Ravens won head coach. John Harbaugh Brown's a revolving door again. I'm not saying. Keep Jason Gerry. I'm not saying that but I think it's it's worth exploring your options. Who Do we have out there? I like Matt rule a lot. I think Matt rule is going to be a great coach. Listen a lot of people who don't follow college football but really do follow the NFL closing. They don't know about Matt Rule. I mean this is a guy who has turned around to pretty awful college football football programs that rule one of these. No nonsense disciplinarians. Okay I thought the Cleveland Browns used him with that young locker room. Full full of egotistical potential stars who really think that their stuff doesn't stick. Okay I mean we're talking about Odell Beckham. Welcome Jarvis Landry myles Garrett the egos on these guys is massive. You need a no nonsense guy to get in there and really break down a little bit. Not Rule at Baylor is a guy's a great coat. He went to Temple Temple. Okay they had one eight or more games just three times in the last thirty nine years. They won ten games twice with that rule so then he goes to Baylor and Baylor won an eleven year before matt rule got there within three years of playing in the big twelve title game. It's GonNa be a home run hire. I like Matt rule a lot. It's funny the browns reached out to him. He said no thanks. It's gotTa shows you. What the State of the Cleveland Browns it I I think Dallas is really looking around Lincoln Riley obviously makes a ton of sense now? The Bloom is kind of the Lincoln Riley Rose Right. If you look at Lincoln Riley that first year with Baker Mayfield. I mean how phenomenal were. They they lost in that semifinal to Georgia in what was the Best College football semi final game since we started the The fourteen playoff fifty four to forty eight. You look at that video on youtube of that Game Lincoln Riley was an amazing play caller so many NFL players all over the field and that was of course the game were Baker Mayfield does the phillies special. No catch a touchdown pass and then does the throat slash gesture before halftime. And of course they lose the game. Baker Mayfield hasn't changed at all So I it's just I think Lincoln Riley still a very good coach. Listen defensively they've been a joke in the last two years and and it's tough to hire somebody and sell them to your fan base coming off a sixty two seventeen laws or whatever it was against Lsu but again that's not on that's Don Lincoln Riley they were touchdown underdog in that game. The Oklahoma does have any defensive defense week. Outside of Kenneth Murray he got hurt during the game Other Options for Dallas. We'll get to here with her line news in about five minutes but still no verdict from Dallas It's it's really tough for me when I when I break down these Nfl Wild Card weekend games to pick the PHILLIES SEATTLE. Oh game right so it's a rematch from earlier this year. Seattle of course Russell Wilson. They went into Philly beat Philly and that was when the eagles were really struggling. They've turned it around. But here's why I don't know if I buy the eagles okay. So they get hot at the end of the year everybody's excited Oh Carson Wentz his lights out out coward on his own show has really been gassing up Carson Wentz Carson Wentz his look good just going to briefly mention the fourteenth of Carson and once faced to get hot here at the end of the season Due New York giants twice they have they have the third pick in the draft. That's how bad they are they beat the Carson Wentz beat the New York giants twice. And we're getting excited. He also beat the Washington redskins. They have the second can't pick in the draft they were awful this year and Carson Wentz beat the Dallas cowboys in a game Carson Wentz is very good against Dallas. I throw throwing guys who they were pulling out a Nativity Church scenes. Okay and throw it in the lineup and Carson wentz installing. Td passes in beating cowboys. It's not like this out there and beat the niners or the Ravens but at the same time I'm not in at all on the Seattle Team I mean you look at the Seattle seahawks and this is a team. Basically that won a bunch of one score games and we know a year to year that tends to flip so seattle eleven and five who array they want a bunch of almost won the division they almost beat the niners twice. Russell Wilson Blah Blah Blah. Seattle had I believe worst point differential of any playoff team point differential matters more than win. Loss record win-loss things happened. You know things get fluky Seattle had in the NFC. The worst point differential French all of any playoff team plus seven at eleven and five. So how does that happen. Well let's dig into the game. They beat the Bengals by one. They steelers by two. That was the game. Big Ben got hurt. And I forget if it was mason. Rudolph dodges who came in but Russell Wilson won that game by two. They beat the rams by one. When Greg the legs arline missed a last second field goal they beat the browns by four? That was the game or kitchens loss. Me He was terrible. beat the Falcons by seven by the way that wasn't even the Matt Ryan Falcons. That was Matt Ryan's backup okay. That'd beat the buccaneers. By six in overtime they beat the niners by three in that luck box Monday night. Football victory are you sensing a theme here guys. Come come on her audience. You're smart are you see what I'm doing here. They beat the Eagles by eight in a pretty close game. They beat the Vikings by seven. Were they had to hold on to beat the panthers by six and the panthers are awful at the end of the season. Like I don't see what's impressive about this team outside a Russell Wilson Wilson. The defense is bad. The running back situation is ghastly. They Lost Josh Gordon which was a big hit. I'm leaning towards taking the eagles. I just I just WanNa see about the injury report like his lane. Johnson GonNA play Zakar. It's GONNA play. I think the hurt audience knows You know the gambling situation here and I would actually tease the Philadelphia Eagles. I think that's where the value is. If you get them. You know at home getting eight. Maybe because they were favorites initially now they're underdogs because everybody's betting Seattle to tease the eagles up to eight Come on through the key numbers of three and seven. I would like the Eagles to beat the seahawks We'll talk about the other games later but next we could do a little heard. Line News with Ryan Burr. Shing Ryan. How are you happy new? Turn on the news. This is the third line news. Happy New Year to you Ryan. Thank you got for us in a heard. Line News. Well we have some more. NFL Coaching News The announcement that we've been expecting for the last couple of days. The redskins officially announced Ron Rivera as their new head coach. This morning along with Jack del Rio coming back to the NFL as their new defensive offensive coordinator Yesterday Collins said that this was a huge mistake on Rivera's part says he's a great hire for for the redskins however guy like Rivera Who is a veteran coming into a situation where he's taking on a quarterback who is already very far behind all the other quarterbacks in the NFC east and doesn't doesn't he doesn't really see his ceiling being anywhere close to the other quarterbacks in the NFC east what do you think of this higher? And what he thinks. I I was actually positive on Ron Rivera good. Coach sat great coach. But he's a grown up and this is a young Washington deep. I my first vote was was other Redskins GonNa go get Cam Newton. Because the panthers looks like they're probably done with a new coach New owner camps been injured a lot to do the redskins. Make a move for Cam Newton because they have the Haskins on the rookie deal. We don't know Rivers WanNa win after getting fired and Carolina Kenny. He win with Haskins. I don't know I do love the idea of Jack Del. Rio good defensive mind adding chase young to the mix from Ohio state with the second. Pick You know in Carolina. They had a guy Mr Julius Peppers address and you gotta wonder if chase young kind of fits. That role is a massive defensive. And I I like what the skins are doing. I don't hate the run Rivera Higher. Okay awesome keeping it with other veteran coaches in the NFL. Mike McCarthy is is a high commodity once again as ENWRAP report reported. Today McCarthy is set to interview with the giants this week Mary cabot reports that he is interviewing with the browns tomorrow and he's already interviewed with the panthers twice. Jason What do you think about these situations. Where Mike McCarthy do you think he's a good fit in any I? Don't you know the jets kicked the tires on McCarthy Party last year and this is a guy who won a lot in green bay but did he win because he had Aaron Rogers or do you win because he's a good coach. This is difficult when I was you know Kinda happy. The jets didn't take him. I was happy with Adam gays higher. Although let's be realistic gays did not like the world on fire this year. Ryen or you more into the recycled coaches who've already been through or do you want to get new. Meet new blood in there. I I find it really interesting because last offseason everybody was looking for the new Sean mcvay s and now all of a sudden. We're turning back the clock again Chan. Galea's bag the. Obviously Ron. Rivera gets a job. Right away I think that this is a this would be a good fit for potentially the panthers. I think I I think the browns well there's A. There's a strong leadership there for the browns that would fit really well I mean I. I've grown up a packers fan. I like McCarthy and obviously you know he brought a super bowl. I mean you you're Pakistan so you know this better than anybody. What happened at the end with McCarthy and Rogers they just never how how do you not get along with us I know? Rogers is a little prickly at issues with people. What that guy's super talented? Don't you figure out a way to make it work right. Yeah I honestly have no idea. It really seems like Aaron and McCarthy wanted to go in their own direction and for whatever reason. There didn't seem to be a lot of compromise. They're not a lot of allowing errand to do his own thing. Errand at the same time was kind of being stubborn and not really fully molding to a McCarthy wanted to do at the end there I think it ultimately came down down to a time to move on the same idea with Rivera and the panthers you know revere is a good coach but it was time for things get stale. It's interesting things haven't gotten instill with Mike Tomlin gotten stale with Bill Belichick. As long as you're winning it's fine. Yeah second you start crumbling with losses Yeah they're moving on. So I'm I'm wishy washy on McCarthy I will say this I am very pro outside the box Ryan you might. I don't know if you know my background I I was in magazines. Newspapers and magazines. And I realize says like this stuff is starting to die. The Internet's come to. I started a website. I kind of came in the back door to TV and radio. I don't have a lot of radio experience. I'm sure it shows today but Yeah I've only been doing radio for like three years A lot of the guys at Fox Doug Gottlieb Nick Colin. These guys have been doing it for a decade or awards. So I'm playing catch up. I came in the back door. And they brought me in is a new different guy who sees things differently and I kind of would lean to the new different fresh guy matt rule a Lincoln Riley Amac Campbell that I was state instead of our a retread retread. WHO's been around for a couple of decades? I know I'm with you. I think Matt rules. It'd be great. I think he's a strong hire. Whoever gets them Moving on though Yesterday when Rams Gm West need was asked if he regretted at all giving record contracts to both jared Goff and Todd Gurley snead's said quote those are human beings that gave a lot to this organization and deserve to be compensated. Also adding that the idea that these large contracts restrict them in any way is quote unquote false perception. Jason What do you think do you think that maybe he should regret these contracts in any way or did he make the right. Move and giving jared Goff correct well first of all. What's he supposed to say he's not gonNA totally take Take a dump on todd. Gurley dear Todd Gurley Ali. Just unfortunate I mean. I don't blame SNEAD. Maybe blamed the rams doctors. How did they not see this? Something's going on with his knee. He's not the same guy he was two years ago when he was like an MVP candidate. Jerry Goss a little different. Like I bet if mcvay had his brothers he wouldn't be paying his quarterback. And I like Jared Gov good quarterback I don't think he'd be paying him top top dollar. Because you WANNA be able to pay your quarterback on the cheap and build everything else around building on the rookie deal. I hope they go to the Super Bowl with Goth on his rookie. Deal when you can add Marcus Peters and to leave and all these guys I don't know it just doesn't feel all like they're getting their bang for their buck with Gov but that's kind of what I mean the Minnesota Vikings paid kirk cousins alive. They they're going to play offs. Finally but you got. And what was the alternative to Gough. Like not paying him lose him. Did you have a backup plan. Can't kill less. Need for your move for sure for sure Last last thing here Jason. How did you spend your now? Gosh I didn't wouldn't want you to ask listen. I talked about the nurture winning right and and the nerds are taking over folks. I spent my New Year's Eve prepping for the show. First Time I've ever hosted the heard. I have hosted it with Chris bussard before but I never hosted at Solo and I wanted to have the best topics in the best stories available so I put my New Year's Eve watching you know the Fox walks Maria menounos hosting with Steve Harvey or whatever. And then I watch the ball drop on. CNN and texted family talk to my family and went to bed early and I watched a little mandatory and I finished it. You don't know spoiler behind. It's pretty awesome the baby Yoda. Oh yeah very cool. I see some clapping in the studio here. All right man delorean I will certainly be going home and watching. Probably the rest of the series today. I don't think these games are that good. Is I watch Michigan. Tie Up Alabama nicely drive there from the wolverines. Yeah I spent the night in with a few friends of mine. We did watch a bit of a New Year's Eve with Steve Harvey on Fox Fox last night. And you also upshur caught as well Rob Gronkowski. Yeah one of the host of the show as well Did you see when he hosted the slippery stairs contest. I saw the beginning where they teased it. Up I didn't see the actual slide. Part happened was a good legitimately entertaining. Far One of my favorite things on New Year's Eve programming outside of Brian Carey a couple of years ago. It was that's what did they put on the stairs. I I'm assuming like Vassil. Lean else like that it it. I didn't seem like it was just water. It was sticking to them in a weird way But later on in the program and you might have. You might have caught Steve. Harvey had e- Lay goahead Made of him and Rob Gronkowski got a little excited later on tonight's and He took it upon himself to spike the LEGO head. We have the sound of that. Okay all right are you. Seri- in Steve Harvey not happening Ottawa. Work with you know why is he. Wow you hear what is wrong with you. You're mentally unbalanced. Just nuts right here in broke. You know how hard it is to get them Brown. Legos wow now you got me WanNa go on Youtube. Look this up was it. Was it out. They feel authentic Yeah Yeah I mean it's definitely gronk being drunk in its. TBN Steve Harvey but Yeah I'm all for rock getting all of these opportunities. He is wildly entertaining It was just a ton of fun watching them. I Yeah I thought it was a legitimate generally good program Branca's keep bring him back every new year. Put them on everything. Yeah Grahn dominating and his girlfriend She seems like she's pretty. Good at Whatever she does very good yeah? Sports illustrated swimsuit model coming up next year. Thanks Ryan on the heard folks. I have a pretty basic question to ask. It's very basic. Is Baker. Mayfield good at playing quarterback in the NFL it's basic. I don't know if we know the answer answer. That's next here on the heard. I'm Jason McIntyre Infra Colin. 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Happy New Year's Day everybody. I am Jason Mcintyre In for Collin Collin cowherd tells me. He's running errands on New Year's Day. I wonder if he's just hung over in. Doesn't WANNA come on. Just kidding. I doubt cowherd lifted up like that last night. I know he's GonNa be firing on all cylinders tomorrow on the heard So I'm stepping in for him here on New Year's Day almost two hours in the books. This is so much fun you know not having fun Baker Mayfield and I and I asked last break. Is He's Baker. Mayfield good at playing quarterback and gave out this stat earlier in the show Baker Mayfield led the NFL in interceptions. Sion's inside the ten yard. Line most quarterbacks you know they tend to twenty to forty passes inside. The ten Baker had thirty thirty. Eight percent completions inside the ten yard line. Thirty eight percent the only starter with a worse. Completion percentage inside the ten in the NFL. NFL was Andy Dalton. He was on the one to win bengals so worst completion. Completion percentage inside the tent number one number two Baker Mayfield most interceptions inside the ten Baker. Mayfield now I had this theory that Baker Mayfield a place much better as an underdog when he has a chip on his shoulder so he's a walk on because nobody would offer them. The places wanted to go wouldn't offer him a scholarship. He's a walk on at Texas Tech. And of course in a bunch of quarterbacks get hurt Baker Mayfield goes in and he's pretty darn good. Nobody had heard of this guy outside of a little area where he grew up and Baker Mayfield was awesome and then he gets into a riff with cliff Kingsbury. You know that's that's an interesting story itself but the quarter starter. who was injured comes back? Baker bounced and he ends up transferring to Oklahoma again and underdog has an awesome year. At Oklahoma is is when trophy winner. They lose the national semifinal but then he's the number one pick in the draft Baker Mayfield goes from being a plucky underdog that everybody roots for for a little guy under-sized. It's only six feet. But he's going number one he's an underdog. Everybody is rooting for Baker Mayfield. And he's kind of been in not good in the NFL. Put up good numbers as a rookie. Remember though He. He was an underdog as a rookie because Hugh Jackson started. tyrod Taylor so Baker Mayfield still an underdog as a rookie has a good sure. Now here we go year to expectations. Odell Beckham joins a team. We're going to the playoffs. Baker Mayfield led the NFL unofficial stat of course in commercials national commercials Baker Mayfield's no underdog underdog anymore. He's now a favorite and with the favourite tag comes expectations. How did Baker Mayfield performances expectations given given Jarvis Landry? A good tight end David Giokoo while we thought he was good when he was drafted and Odell Beckham. And Nick Chub and Kareem on Baker flopped so good as an underdog not so good as a favorite when there are expectations and I said in the last hour Baker. You've got to clean up your act off-the-field not between the Hash marks and I told you guys have seen the video by now season finale against the bengals. The browns are getting ready to go on the field or in the tunnel and couple bozos in the crowd have their camera phones and yell and stuff that Baker Mayfield. Oh Hey Baker you could lose one win team and another guy basically calls him says something about Johnny Menzel L. Baker Mayfield very clear on the audio shouts back at the fan. Once you come down here and tell that to my face and then there's a couple of other words it's unclear what he says. But there's a bad word. You don't have to look hard for this video. It's out there and you know you you can't do that as a starting quarterback in the NFL. So Baker has a bad year he compounds it. By getting enriched with fans he gets an online beefs with people because he's obsessed with social media like it's all unraveling Baker Mayfield. I don't know if he's a good quarterback in the first hour. I said Listen Baker. I got some advice for you and I got this advice from my third grade. Sons Jujitsu teacher. Yeah third grade. This is basic advice. Avoid conflict and tell the story again a group of of friends or walking to their karate dojo walking down the street and they come upon a man with a horse on the corner. And of course this. This kid's startled the Horse of the Horse Kicks Back but fortunately the best kid in the karate classes at the front line and he dodges the horse kick an incredible incredible show of. Wow look those skills. He's so amazing. Way To go so the kids run to the studio the Dojo Dojo and tell the sense eight. Oh my gosh you should have seen. Sammy dodgers keys amazing. The sense say was upset. He looks at them and says if he was my star student he would have been on the other side of the street. The lesson of course. Avoid conflict and Baker hasn't done that somebody needs to sit baker. Mayfield down and say listen man. I noticed stuff they do good. But you can't thrive off meatballs in the crowd yelling at you and people say and stuff on social media you need that inner drive. Forget about all the outside noise and avoid conflict Baker Mayfield got a long way to go. foxsports had me. Write a piece. How would you fix the Cleveland browns? Of course number one was fired for kitchens no-brainer. Well number three was to get some competition in there for Baker. Mayfield game focused on playing quarterback just because you win number one. It doesn't mean squat. We Josh Rosen. Go I believe number ten a couple years ago after one year the cardinals shipped him out of town. They got a new coach. I said by nothing is given the NFL. It will humble you quickly. If I'm the Cleveland Browns I would pursue a guy like Marcus Mariota to be my backup. I would pursue someone like a case keenum. Who's a pretty good backup? He's as a career backup. He had one really good year Minnesota to push Baker say bake. We're not giving you anything you were the number one pick. Well guess what the Guy who picked you. He got the coach who you had you. He gone there's a new regime. Strap in Baker Grow Up. Stop getting online fights and talking to these dopes in stadiums stadiums. You don't need that you're better than this final hour is coming up here on the heard. I've Jason Macintyre Infra Colin. What are we going to talk about? We could talk about some college football. We got a guest coming in to talk. NFL draft folks. I have a great college edged football stat for you before you bet clubs. Lsu You've got to hear that next on the heard one more heard the twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio. UH-HUH APP search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like well come back to the Heard Ladies and gentlemen woman our number three happy new year? Everybody I am. Your Host Jackson Mcintyre in for Colin cowherd here on a in January first New Year's day we got some bowl games in action. Looks like here's another touchdown. On the Board Minnesota takes the lead over Auburn and the crowd claps Guess Bowl Games College football this final hour wonderful having more. NFL News still waiting. Tick Tock Tick Tock on Jerry Jones to make decision on his head coach Jason Garrett Jason Garrett now last decade it goes to the cowboys and still this decade for now he is. The coach of the cowboys. Hope everybody had a great great. New Year's Eve is either recovering or starting a New Year right couple of college football games and action just for for them and I. I want to quickly riff on. Just listen I opened show talking about the nerds taking over in pro football as we see the Cleveland browns. Keep the analytic sky and dumped the football guy It's an interesting power struggle the the NBA The nerds of taken over baseball. We know they have college football. Not Quite the same. Analytics are starting to become prevalent. And I will say this I talk a lot about gambling for Fox on digitally when I go on coward show I go and lock it in. Let's gambling's here to stay and if you don't have an algorithm if you don't have some kind of model you kinda throwing Darts folks two games. Today I saw no edge on either aside. It's more fun obviously to pick a side and B right yea but the real move is to follow with the machine says and just take it machine said take the over in Alabama and Michigan. Take the over in Minnesota Aubert. Not as exciting again to take it over. Are You WanNa pick aside and route so I took the overs and it's early but both are looking good. I want to Bash College football for a second if I could. I Know Fox's great job with that I watch all the Games big noon was phenomenal for Fox's year a massive home run but like I. I'm a little nostalgic for the days when you wake up and be like eight bowl games and you'd have to get to TVs next to each other or you'd have to get the remote boom boom. What we you know? That's not really the case. Now there's four games today to on right now then there's the rose bowl later on and then there's a game tonight off the top of my head. I don't even know who's playing like it's just one of uh-huh Baylor's playing tonight. That's right Baylor Georgia. It's just one of those situations where it's not like the old days now. Listen I know the idea of nostalgia. The theme of Nostalgia if you will is whatever you liked as a kid as a teenager. You're gonNA live forever so You Know Ryan here here. In the studio played some snoop earlier. And if you ask me well Jason who who your favorite rap guys have all time snoop doggy style. L. is one of the best rap albums ever for me. That's just how it is. Dr Dre the chronic. I mean I got my license and of course I was that dopey kid who Wanted like a sound system in the car but I only have my parents Volvo and I convinced my dad a can I put two twelve inch. Subs is in the trunk and my dad was okay with it so I had my you know. My parents. Volvo driving around bump in the chronic with two twelve in subs in the back and you know my bring out my friends. I get the car on a Friday night and it was like those are memories that lasts forever they are embedded. I love the chronic love. Snoop doggy style. That album is epic so many songs made eighty huge from that end like with college. Football my greatest memories. Obviously Clemson to Shawn Watson was amazing. the Vince young young rose bowl against Mattie liner and and and USC that was amazing game but the reality is like. I Love College football when it was wall-to-wall New Year's takings. That's just not the case anymore. And what has happened of course is college. Football has become big business. Don't tell that to the dumb. NCAA they refuse to believe that because football such big business that it's more beneficial for the business to have island games where you're the only game on TV. And they spread out the Games. Can you believe they are now bowl games. After New Year's Day like many I don't know who's playing in them but there are bowl games after New Year's Day not just the playoff championship canal issue. But Regular Borgen's I it doesn't make sense to me. Why because it makes more money you get more money through the TV deals to put on separately? And I. I don't love that but that's where we are in college football. That's how things work and things evolve and folks were. were seeing this in sports too. I just mentioned we're seeing a gambling every day. I'll get the email mill what the machine spat out. And if the machine says there's value in the coppin state VALDOSTA state over. I'm taking it if the best under on the board is You know Houston Baptist versus northwest Missouri. State that's what I'm I'm taking and that's will were headed in the NFL right now. It's all about the analytics. NBA has been that way for a while. Baseball's the Mo the really interesting one where it is basically the number say? Hey when you go to the plate you you want to walk you home run or strike out and I was. You don't WANNA strike out but why does the strike out matter. Well listen if the number say the analytics say the harder you swing the better chances for a home run and is that helping or hurting baseball. Well there's much less action if the only action is walk home run or strike out. You're not supposed to steal basis anymore. They're like telling you don't steal bases remember when Ricky Henderson dominating debates pass in the eighties I love Ricky Henderson. One of the most quotable athletes. I've ever followed. I have a lot of his young Rookie cards and Ricky Anderson. I loved him Big Fan. Nobody seals basis anymore. Now it's all about matchups in leftovers. There's left e. and let's go to the bullpen eight times. The Games are getting longer games are getting boring much less drama much less action Russian taking longer because of the changing of the pitchers like analytics are helping teams uh-huh but they're hurting the game now. You could argue the same for basketball and I could do an entire hour on this. I won't we barely done any. NBA Today but the sabermetrics trek situation the NBA. The analytic say. Shoot a three pointer preferably a corner three or take up. Don't just shoot a mid range jumper doesn't make sense now is this better for the NBA. I will argue the NBA. Right In the last decade has been phenomenal with the rise to the Golden State Warriors before durant and with durant and shooting the three. And you know obviously Lebron at the height of his powers. NBA's been great with the three pointers but other people. Tell me Jason I can't watch the NBA. It's all three pointers. Nobody dumped the ball down to the center. Like you remember it when you were a kid right just like the music nobody does that in the NBA anymore. There's hardly any back to the basket players in the league. She doesn't happen and is that good for the sport bad. Well a lot of people miss it. They missed a Lajon and shack and Jabbar. And I've had this debate with folks with the analytic guys and with friends who likes sports the NBA has gotten so three point. Heavy think about this this. What would Patrick Ewing be in today's NBA? Patrick Ewing is an all-time great center. Probably one of the thirty best players in the League in the history of the Li. I love him a big Knicks Fan. What is Patrick Ewing? Now if he's in the NBA. Now I mean he can't defend the pick and roll. We know that I mean seven vitale. Put Him in a pick and roll. blender all gave okay so what would Patrick Ewing be so the game has changed so much. And if you're not changing you're falling behind guess what. Go look at what the Knicks have done since. Patrick Ewing left it's ghastly. Yeah I'm actually jets fan at a Knicks Fan. How did that happen? While I was born in New York. My family moved because my dad got a job at the In DC so removed. When I was a little kid and I've never followed the crowd ever in anything and everybody growing up loved the Redskins when I was in? DC and. I refuse to get on board with everybody else said no I different. I'M GONNA take my New York jets. 'cause I was born in New York. Why not the giants? I don't know I cannot think back and remember why I took the jets over the jets. Giants are good at the time member Phil Simms in the eighties. Really good really good football player. I think they won one or two super bowls giants in in the eighties guys in the studio here aren't giving me a signal but I took the jets and I've just never followed the crowd out in anything and right now if you're not following the crowd with the analytics and the advanced metrics you're falling behind now I will point this out the one team in the. NFL did it surged ahead of everybody. Is the Baltimore Ravens went and they are two for two in the not following everybody and the analytics and we talked about it. I our the Baltimore. Ravens John Harbaugh. This is the guy who was on the hot seat last year. Decided I need to get with the program so John Harbor went out and hired himself a twenty eighty five year old guy from Yale. Twenty five year old kid who majored in Behavioral Economics. He makes all their fourth down decisions. How smart is that that's analytics in the NFL? John Harbaugh great coach right won a super bowl but in recent years they've fallen behind and so not only. Did they get on board the analytic strain and I absolutely love this. They decided we're not gonNA play the same football ball that everybody else's they draft Lamar Jackson at the end of the first round. Lot of questions about Lamar Mark Jackson. What box does he fit in? You can't put them in a box luck. Can you passable. Well he's a runner but he's slight. Is he going to get hurt. And looking at my own career. I kind of fell into similar outside the box. What is he people? Keep trying to put me in a box. What it is Jason? What is his website? What what what? What is he and people ask? What is Lamar Jackson? People went with Baker Mayfield. They went with Sam Darnold. Josh Shallan. Josh Rosen Lamar Jackson fifth in the first round. And what did the Ravens do this year. They didn't say. Hey We want you to play in our offense. They put the offense around Lamar Jackson. They built around his skill set. That's so smart and so different right from what everyone else in the. NFL's doing these old school coaches. Hey this is what we do. You do what we do know. We're GONNA play to your strength Lamar and wouldn't did you know it the Baltimore Ravens are the best team in the NFL playing to their quarterback strengths. They don't look if you watch the Ravens and then you watch any other team in the NFL. They're not doing the same thing as anyone else. Don't follow the crowd be your own person and the Ravens not only. Are they going analytics. But they're going against the grain. Lamar Jackson is is going to win the MVP this year by going against the grain. The Baltimore Ravens the number one seed in the AFC by going against the grain the value is not following the crowd. You're going to look at a bunch of people. This is a great experiment. Okay you're going to look a lot of. I'll go on my instagram today. And you'll see all these people making their New Year's resolutions and they're gonNa say I'm GonNa read this book and this book I will guarantee you if you go. Oh and look at the books that people say WanNa read their all those books that are like the bestsellers and they're on the New York Times bestseller list. That's just they're just following the crowd. Why don't you different and find the books that don't aren't part of the crowd have value? That are going to add value to you when it becomes discussions with your boss discussions with your peers me. With topics on the radio I read and what everybody else's reading eating. You could be damned share. I'm not following the crowd. There's no value there the different strive to do different. Think think independently that my friends is writing. A lot of the value is coming up next year on the heard. I'm Jason Mcintyre in for my Buddy Colin cowherd on a New Year's Day. I'll give you my picks clemson and Lsu and wildcard NFL NFL. Weekend is upon us. I'll give those as well next here on the heard. Jason Mcintyre in for Colin Coward. One more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like back here on the heard? I am Jason Mcintyre in for Colin cowherd on a lovely New Year's Day out here in Los Angeles Nice and sunny weather. Hope you guys are getting the same wherever you are in this beautiful country twenty twenty. I will say this. I am reluctant to pass this song because it might have. Just been one of those weird Internet things So my wife sees this thing on facebook where it says. Don't sign your Your checks or any any documents with the date one slash five slash twenty because theoretically I guess they're saying to protect yourself Someone could take whatever you sign and just add like seventeen after twenty and then it looks like you signed this thing three for years ago or five years or whatever so sign it at the end with the full year twenty twenty instead of just slash nine twenty. If that makes any sense does that make sense. It's okay. I'm getting a a nod but skeptical. Not all right here we are. Let's just update the bowl games. Real quick the bowl games. You're not watching. Oh perfect the timing auburn touchdown pass seventeen for Auburn. Seventeen from Minnesota late first-half Alabama remember. They scored on their first play. Eighty eighty five yard. Td Past Jerry Judy. They haven't scored since Michigan is doing what everyone thought they might run the Football Alabama can't fan the run Alabama's got three star. I think two or three starters out prepping for the NFL draft so They've Kinda sputtered stopping Michigan in Michigan and Jim Harbaugh lead thirteen seven interesting. We've done a ton of NFL and college football news show. I just want to one quick NBA thing real quick. So I did this thing last year with a couple of guys that I used to work with on the website where we gambled Knightley on the NBA. Now that is a fool's errand because the N. B. A. is just absolutely bananas with the High Variance. But what you can either pick one game to three hundred many wherever you see the edge and I'm doing pretty well so far six games over five hundred Last year I was doing great. I think I ended ended up nine games over five hundred which is pretty good listen. NBA's crazy. I do want to the bucks. Are Eighteen. Point favors offers tonight against Minnesota. And I'm like that seems high. And then I remembered that the big chatter right now in Minnesota is Karl Anthony. Towns who's injured is not unhappy and he wants out folks about a month ago. I ran into Steph curry at my gym Steph. Curry was getting hand surgery in Los Angeles. He was here so he was living near where I live and I run into the gym talking to take a photo with him. Because I'm a NERD Remember nurture cool. And I say to Steph Hey Steph. I've been pushing the single my radio show. It's pretty funny. I'm just going to bounce it off. You guys continue to be bad. You don't come back classes and come back. You get the number one. Pick you package that with de Ngelo Russell and he starts mile and I go you call up the bucks and he goes Jaanus and I go. Yeah or forget. If you're honest is unhappy. Find the best unhappy superstar in the NBA. And Hey we he wants out the way. Anthony Davis wanted out Kyrie Irving wanted out Jimmy Butler Paul George on down the list they all these stars one out every year somebody and you say we got the number one pick de Ngelo Russell. GimMe Karl Anthony towns in Minnesota. And if you're Minnesota what are you GONNA do. You WanNa play you got to trade them you have to. That's how it works down. The stars run the leak Karl Anthony Towns Chirping and the chatter. Is He wants. That's out so I mentioned this kind of deal to Steph curry a month ago. It's now starting to emerge. Keep an eye on Karl Anthony towns the next next disgruntled NBA star back to the NFL in college. Football real quick so I was looking at the wild card games a little more indepth during the break and I think I've got my official four picks. Obviously I'll be you guys know. I do videos for Fox. Nfl College football every week during the season was not a good college football season. NFL was better. But I'm telling you right now My picture in I got buffalo plus three. It's now two and a half so little small beating closing line number there for me. I'm taking the Patriots. Folks I am. I think they will be the Tennessee. Titans I gave you that great stat. The first our first time quarterbacks in the playoffs since two thousand and two fourteen eighteen and thirty straight up now. That's a risky taking Josh Allen first-timer Ryan Tannehill. Also I started patriots. I think the defense just smothers Tennessee and patriots win I'm GonNa reluctantly take the saints. It's a big number kirk cousins not first time. NFL playoff quarterback. He did start a game aim in Washington the law revenge game for the Minnesota Miracle. Hi You guys remember that and then finally. I'm taking Philly for sure now against against Seattle I is it still WanNa look at that injury report for the Eagles but It'll be a team. I'm on EGO. So there's my pick for Wildcard College Football playoff. I've told you I am invested heavily in Clemson plus four five and seven. I would take six but it's no longer there. I like Clemson and it's funny. I talked in the last segment about go opposite the crowd. This theory does apply to gambling as well. The world world is on the LSU tigers against the Clemson Tigers. Everybody remembers what they last saw. What they see? LSU You joe borough seventeen passes LSU sixty. I think it was sixty two to seventeen blowout city or Lsu's the best. I meanwhile clemson o clock struggled against so hostage. That's right clubs really labored against Ohio State. Needed needed an epic comeback. And oh well enough for that targeting and the running into the punter. Yeah all that applies Gimme Clemson. Give Me Clemson and I don't WanNa the bellyaching about Ohio State got jobbed Senate guys earlier. House date was the better team I thought in that game. They however made a couple of big mistakes and Trevor Lawrence is a money player. I would say if you ask me for my best. NFL prospects at quarterback coming out of the draft for a long time. It was Andrew Luck was the best I think. Trevor Lawrence is the best. I mean this guy has never lost a college football game. These twenty nine twenty eight or twenty nine whatever it is and he's just a phenomenal competitor. Running the football at six foot six come on this guy's a monster. Trevor Lawrence Versus Joe. Borough is going to be fun. Everybody's taking the over. They think it'll be points on point. Two Games on turf indoors. Remember Clemson played that tough game against Ohio state outdoors in the footing was awful guys fallen from the jump injuries injuries left. And right this was turf indoors Ellison LSU as track stars receiver. They have three awesome. Receivers and Clemson has awesome receivers. Awesome running back. I think the difference here is on defense. I give a slight edge to clemson defensively. They just saw Ohio state an amazing team we. We talked earlier on the show. Ohio state a week ago was being considered one of the best big ten teams in football in college football history. That's awesome that allows team was heisman finalist at quarterback couple. NFL future receivers not as high round picks his LSU or Clemson but there will be drafted Jiechi. Dobbins could be a first round pick. That Ohio state team is sick. Now you'll be prepared heading into face. LSU BUT WE'LL LSU be prepared the one time they got a stiff competition was against Alabama and Alabama. Obama has some major superstars. Three wide receivers will be drafted and it was a forty six forty one close game now. CLEMSON's defense is better in Alabama. We know that in Clemson's offense believe is as good as Alabama with the better quarterback in Trevor Lawrence. So yeah for me. It's Clemson guys. I don't I don't want to disappoint my the Lsu fans out there. I know the hurt has strong in the South and of course Colin has his history with Dabo Sweeney which is a fun history. and Are you ready for this Dabo Sweeney seven and one straight up seven and one against the spread spread in College Football Playoff Gabes advising urban meyer. I'd say Nick Sabin Multiple Times. I I like Clemson in the A playoff game. All right coming up next. We have a great guest joining us. He's in the heard podcast network. He's been a scout he knows. NFL teams as well as anybody. John Middlekauff join show John Good morning and happy New Year. How are you avenue to you? How going excellent John? We're having fun little show. On New Year's there's Day watching the bowl games here. Let's start with the ball. Game says anything yet jumped out at you surprised Jerry. Judy already has a TD catches even in playing Minnesota moving the football well but any any future NFL guys. Jump out to you today. Watching the Games a couple of things jumped out last last night. Zach Moss Played Mad game. the running back for Utah and Jonathan Taylor is GonNa play today in the in the game for the Rose Bowl now obviously the rose bowl is bigger than the Alamo Allah mobile but both those guys may Jonathan Taylor. You know. Probably a fringe late first round or pro ended up going to the Second Zach Moss Price Second Third Round these bowl games. That don't have playoff implications or really risky for these guys running back just because as we know right they only have so much so much tread on those those tires as a runner. So I understand wanting to play with you guys and your team mates and trust me. I I get it but man. It's really risky. And then the bus. It's kind of coming out of this Alabama game. I think we've been hearing right for a little while for maybe a couple weeks the two of might come back and yeah I mean that that would be nuts but with the stupid I do think if you look at it from tooth perspective. You know if he's not going to be healthy or by the draft time hi and he would fall. Let's say you know. Between Twenty and thirty. I think last year the twentieth pick and down start at like eleven million dollars in down well this year. If he was fully unhealthy right. He'd be a lock to go right behind borough and who knows once the draft process stars. Maybe he'd go ahead of borough probably not but he he would go. You know top five. which is you know around thirty million dollars? I think the last last year the top three picks got thirty million dollars so it is like a twenty million dollar difference. But he's also a guy if he does return earn now trust. I mean we know it's not like about act like Alabama's not taking care of those guys that he He's had other injuries even beside the hip though it would be a major risk but these Obama guys man so it's a little different who who knows. Yeah I would say zero point zero percent chance to I mean I mean if anybody's smarts talking to the more tape they get on you John you follow the stuff that the more they expose you right. Justin Herbert stuck around Oregon thinking all and to enhance my draft. HASHTAG will Joe. Borough flew past him here like two months at Joe Boroughs out probably going to go number one. Overall Justin herber falls we know Lawrence Lawrence going number one next year. Who knows what other quarterback could emerge commit to me the main variable of the hip injury and would it terrified teams? Does he know stuff I but again like that wouldn't necessarily go away in a year It is just you know the hip injury without it. He's clearly coming out and going. It'd probably that'd be one to write borough. I just think sometimes these injuries kind of derail your thought process and get you in a weird place. That's I'm with you otherwise I'd say zero percent chance to guy would never return Because you don't liners done it right. Tibo came back but he wasn't that level player we we rarely see it with a guy. That's a lock type five. Pick but his hip did get dislocated and he's clearly still limping around. So it's it's kind of a weird situation there. We're we're talking with John Middlekauff here on the heard. Jason Mcintyre in for Colin. All right. Let me let me ask you this Did you see the news John. That Chan Gailey is coming out of basically basically retirement at sixty seven years old to be the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins now. Why does that matter well? The Miami Dolphins are picking fifth and I did a mock draft for Fox and I had to of going fifth to Miami. I gotta ask you. What are you doing to 67-year-old Chan Gailey who has worked with? Its Patrick twice lights in Buffalo in New York. I don't understand what's going on in Miami any idea but it makes no sense if you watch them down the stretch yes. They went five and four of their last nine games. I think Fitzpatrick was making place. The offense coordinator they fired shadow. Shay was with Brian Floors for years in New England so they had been working together for a long long period of time. My My spidey senses and conspiracy theories go off and say well. Maybe bill forced him to fire him because he wants him back because he knows Josh is going to leave a little too inside mob football like but I I don't understand it it it really just on the surface just them firing the offensive coordinator to me makes no sense of their players. They were they were good. I mean devante Parker resurrected resurrected. His career patch making plays left. And right I think the average football fan would be like yeah. I thought about the Dolphins coaching staff did a really good job. It wasn't just floors. The offense coaches and then like you said to come with a curve ball of a guy that old ally league did you say I think I saw on the ticker like fifteen or sixteen. He's been on the League League for years. I think seventeen was his last year like sixty seven years old. I don't know if something's going on there and the weird. I got that one red flag to you. I don't know I don't know the inside information but that that one is very very bizarre. Yeah all right. We'll talk with John Middlekauff here on the heard on New Year's Day all right let me let me ask you this I kind of opened the show joking that the analytics nerds have won out especially in Cleveland. Football guy. John Dorsey he's been dusted. Did and Paul de but Esta the analytics nerdy Guy Jona Hill portrayed him obviously Money Bombing Ball. You know depressed. This is gonNA stick around. I don't is bad news for Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. The Guy who hired him are who drafted him John. Dorsey is gone and his coach. Kitchens gone your thoughts. Why anytime you work in any business let alone a business paying you a lot of money and the numbers? Your number one supporter is no longer hand-in-hand with you in that business in his fired you know it's one thing if the guy leaves and there's a transition when he's fire and obviously the coach pretty. The kitchen was another big Baker Mayfield Guy. That's a problem. Now when you draft the Guy Number one overall and you pay them all that money. He's he's playing this year no matter what what. But they're tangible pressure in two thousand twenty on Baker Mayfield the not be a debacle on the field. And that's what he was this year. I mean it. It was one of the one of the worst quarterbacks starting quarterbacks you could argue the worst I wouldn't go that far but he was definitely a bottom five starting quarterback the majority of the season so oh that happens again. This could be his last season in Cleveland. Now the one thing you'd say is he wouldn't be like teetering on Jamarcus Russell missile type. Just add the league bus because he was so good out of college aim college. Football fan knows he was really good. I I was a big Fan. He does not look like that player anymore so there would be a ton on a team with you draft rates on them that would want them now. The curve ball is this immaturity stuff that was leading the charge on. He was dead right right. Yeah every UH. Every time we turn a corner we Baker Mayfield. Just doing something that not even. I'm not even comparing like act like Breyer breeze. Just act like a normal quarterback back just just kind of lay low and he can't really do it and then when you when you kinda double down on the field with that it's GonNa turn off a lot of people around the league. It did like him. You remember there was a story that like the Patriots Really Love Baker Mayfield last year whenever he was coming out and they were gonNA trade up for them. Well how would bill bell. Oh can be a huge fan of him. You know it just. It hasn't really add. Now we're Bell Jack and guys like that would be. Can I get paid Baker Mayfield op. Another bad a year for like a six round pick. They'll circle the waters like that. Yeah but his value of being A highly sought after player right now. Is that an all time. I'm low and he's going to need to battle back. I also think the analytic stuff and football's a little overblown like we've been taught what what do you think. The combine is the forty uh-huh with the weights the just the production. I mean it's been analytics the whole time. It's different because you can't it's harder to isolate stuff a for Ano- like in baseball. It's a bunch of individuals playing a team sport in football. The analytic guy doesn't know the play call. We're doesn't know all the responsibilities ladies. Unless you're working hand in hand with the coaches and I think sometimes that's where it gets difficult is when the coaches won't work with you but Paul is also the person that went on record saying Carson Wentz that's couldn't play and who was leading a charge with Sashi Brown when they traded back. Remember and didn't take this Shawn Watson so let's not act like he's you know. Bill Walsh the good stuff I let me get you out of here with this if I'm the browns. I definitely definitely try to unload Odell Beckham for whatever I can get your thoughts. Odell Beckham where will he be playing next year. Well to me it depends on the coach. Like if they get what they get a guy with some pelts on the wall like Mike McCarthy you you know or Ron Rivera signed but a guy like that you know that's done it before and he wants them then I'd go well that guy can handle them but to me if they somehow get Josh mcdaniels meals. It wouldn't feel like a Josh mcdaniels type player. He would be gone. I think it's very dependent on the coach. You because if you are Mike McCarthy I think you'd want him right when you want a really good team you'd WanNa win right but do you want that headache. I mean he's the highest paid player on the team. The production isn't their the entire off season. He's missing the OT as and people were like. Oh who cares. There's no continuity with him in that offense you have to just think he doesn't WanNa be there right. Yeah see that. That's the kicker does he want to be there. Of course not I mean anyone saying that is just as clueless. He he didn't pick them. They picked him Yeah but to me if you get if you get a McCarthy if I'm him I I'm trying to convince him to like WanNa be then if he's like trust I don't WanNa be here kind of like an NBA conversation. And then I would trade. My problem would be if I was them when they what they had to trade for them the first round. Pick to get And it wasn't it's not like it was a top ten. Pick pick seventeen but is anyone giving up a first round pick right now maybe like chiefs or a forty niners at the end of the first round down but you're not getting the same value now. You could argue you just kind of eat the cost you know if if he's saying I have to leave them. Maybe do so. Yeah I'd say I'd say very dependent dependent on the coach and more than likely if you look at their history. They're going to hire a guy that's never been a head coach and that guy would probably want out so I I would lean. He won't be on the team next year. I John Middlekauff former NFL scout host of the three and out podcast on a herd podcast network. Follow him on twitter at middlekauff. Great stuff John and happy New Year. Happy Happy New Year. All right coming up we close out the heard on New Year's Day final segment back. I'm Jason Mcintyre in for Colin. Coward be sure to catch live additions of the heard. Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP ROMANTIC mantis music here on New Year's Day back you're on the heard. I am Jason Mcintyre in for Colin Cowherd. So Colin was at the ready we protecting. Hey listen if cowboy stuff goes down come on your show and fire and nothing happened. I was just speculating here. Tomorrow if he's GonNa Dump Garrett Tomorrow's probably the day right the bowl games are done there's no NFL game so tomorrow there's nothing tomorrow is the day you don't WanNa Dump Jason Garrett who you've worked with for nine years. He's like a Sunday him. On New Year's Steve. Okay you did. That wasn't happening. You're not doing it New Year's Day because there's other news there is straight up nothing tomorrow. Tomorrow's The Perfect Day for Jerry Jones to move on from Jason Garrett. Now if he doesn't that would be a colossal upset speaking of upset so I said last Earlier this hour I like clemson against Lsu. I would not call that an upset even though the spread is five maybe six. I just don't see that as an upset. CLEMSON's wanted defending national champs by the way last year six point underdogs against Alabama and a boat. Racer they crush rushed. I wouldn't call it an upset. We'll see we'll see how the narrative is nationally. A lot of people remember. They're just GONNA go to the window and say oh I love love me some. Lsu Joe Borough so good. Oh I love Joe Borough Joe Boroughs good bengals probably take them a number one overall but give me Clemson Wild Card Games. I'm interested in them. I think the following weekend is the in. You know that's considered the best weekend in the NFL. You get to the divisional round games and then on Saturday and Sunday and then you get Monday with the national championship now. I do have some crummy news folks. I just got the schedule for my daughter's first grade basketball team. I am the assistant coach. I didn't want to be the head coach because I'm head coaching. My son would have been a little bit much. Their Games are on Sundays. What I was floored when the schedule came out like Sundays? That's just unbelievable. Who Has Basketball Games on Sundays by son his are opener? Is Saturday now If you listened to my Saturday radio show you know. I'm big on this folks. The biggest piece of advice I would give you besides what I said earlier about. Think outside the box be different. Don't follow the crowd route is if you like sports coach your kids when they're young. It is so rewarding and fun and watching the growth. Now it is it is. There are some Marvez frustrations. I've learned a lot of lost sleep. Yes over lineups and are we going to beat this team and I will remember This forever okay. I'm coaching my son's second-grade soccer team we were dominant. Okay we lost one game when our best player got thrown out at halftime because he had broken finger and he played the first half. They didn't care but then he scored an amazing goal at the end of the first half and tied the game and the other team he said. Oh that's dangerous. We can't let them play so they kicked him out which is garbage. Then we lost the game where I was not there. My assistant coach. Who might be listening? You're to blame for that one And we're playing playing in the mythical championship against a team from my son's school in the final game. We had to reschedule this game because we couldn't played earlier and it's halftime and we're losing to one and our two best players are crying like they're so upset we got a goal. Take it away. That's fair and my son in made me so proud. I still tell them about this. He's like said the kids. Amy was calmed down. It's only halftime. We're in this. We got this and I was like look at my guy here my little little sudden. I'm so proud of him. And of course we dominated the second half we had to settle for the Thai. We did it across twice but we tied it up and it's just coaching. Your kids is so rewarding so I will be coaching Hashtag. Dad Life my my third grade basketball team my son and my daughter first grade quick note on our second grade basketball team because I know the hurt audience cares about youth basketball in southern California. We were undefeated last year. Dominant and then lost in the championship. deanship tied Hondo. Forget back. Our team got split up because the at the draft. Okay that's enough about Youth Sports Hashtag Dad Life It was a ton ton of fun hosting the heard today. Really good time Listen the PODCAST will be up a couple of good guests. Talked Wildcard Action. We took college football. I tried to go over some life lessons with you guys because you know you're always gotta think big picture. I know it's just sports sports and guys you will your Jersey out your fan and that's fun and yes I wear jerseys. Don't let people tell you that as romantic Romania killer a Sports Jersey whether it's your rep and your soccer team or player or Jersey. Yeah in summer out here. I'll Rock Jersey and go to the beach if if you go on my instagram. I have a throwback Larry Johnson Hornets Jersey. That is awesome. There's nothing wrong with a grown man wearing jersey. We are sports stands. We get emotional about sports. They're fun they're exciting. Let us wear jerseys people. It's twenty twenty. I'm happy Twenty two thousand a year. I just had a great decade. I hope you and yours have a phenomenal decade. You guys can catch me on the heard. I think I'll be on Friday as a guest asked with Colin. I hope everybody at a safe New Year's Eve Again I'm Jason Mcintyre in for Colin had a lot of fun today enjoy twenty twenty twenty. When billionaire James Morelli invited his family to a desert retreat? He planned on picking the successor to his fortune. 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Western Alienation, Part Two: Climate collision

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We've seen it all before under the leadership of Justin's father Pierre wouldn't be surprised to see the country split and I think it would be too bad because we'll all lose so it felt important to look at that history and learn from it. If you miss the episode you can go back into our feed. Check it out today. We WanNa look more at the present present in the future because there is one big thing that this country did not have to deal with the last time western alien nation spiked climate change. I'm Jamie poem this is from. I'm here today with Jason. Marcus off he is the Alberta correspondent for Maclean's. Hi Jason so first off look I I really want to get your thoughts on this breath. This webex it sentiment you're on the ground in Alberta. Are People actually talking about this in bars. coffeeshops is a real thing. I think it's important in this conversation. Distinguish between three separate things wax it separatism as an idea and the frustrations I there's weks which which is this is shorthand term while using separatism. But it's actually this organization led by a former rcmp guy who's running a bunch of different online movements western Canadians. We will not allow ourselves to be divided. We're GONNA make Albert agreed again and that is when we cut ourselves off from the Leach that is eastern Canada and it's quite fringe. What they're doing? They're they're mostly based online. I mean they have drawn some decent sized crowds in some forms including one last week end in Edmonton but they are really based on the fringe. Some of the yellow vest ideology creeps in. There are hard edge right wing talking points. That are in the main of where people are feeling right now in this frustration. We're sending in our application to elections. This cat's tomorrow to register websit Canada as a federal western Canadian political party. That's the second element. Separatism separatist sentiment is actually alarmingly high in Alberta as an as an idea there have been some polls saying it runs around twenty percent twenty five percent which is really really high That's people saying you know this poll taken before the election that if Alberta if if people were voting on separatist referendum before the election it was running near a quarter popular saying yes then So people that frustrated that they're thinking that they don't belong in this country anymore and maybe they need to take a look. Look but you know as you get further down that line. How does that work? How do we get pipeline? If we're landlocked province really want to abandon Canada are we. Sick of Canada's ASNA DEA. Do you want to abandon on. These trade deals that have been negotiated between Canada and other countries. That that's right there's so many complexities there that that is still. Oh I think even though there are some polling number showing it's very high still might be considered a fringe fringe idea or a far fetched sort of fence. Fantastic idea born out of frustration. Thirdly is actual Western nation the frustration that is ranging really really high. You saw it in the vote. Getting both Albert Albert Scotch one getting rid of all their liberal. MP's losing his seat in Wisconsin statue in Tonight's First elected to parliament in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy four is the only member to have served with Pierre Trudeau a father and Justin Trudeau the sun to all of you. Thank you tonight. The by high sixties percentage of people voting for the Conservatives and just on the ground you hear a Ross frustration at Justin Trudeau at that were the national debate is at the attention and power that has a vested in Ontario and Quebec and the West seems shut out of the national interest entirely People get pretty upset about the fact that the votes over East count for so much more people have been kicked around. They've been working hard jobs. Jobs have been disappearing and The sad reality is the federal government. Hasn't paid any attention and that is something that is a real and being addressed by politicians auditions across the spectrum and it does strike me. You know listening to how this anger was quelled before in the nineteen eighties. Oil prices eventually went up. A Conservative government got in we are going to say that the liberal government and what it stands for and what is done to this country is not good enough but here it feels like something different is going on right. We have this existential threat of climate change and some of these demands from Kenny and Scott mode the premiers of Scotch on Berta. A new deal that includes a canceling of the carbon tax withdrawing devastating policies like Bill C Sixty Nine restructure equalization formula so that it is fair to all provinces as substantial progress in the completion of a coastal pipeline. And a new deal that would allow us to get our products to market their completely diametrically opposed to what God Trudeau elected. That's right you know. Justin Trudeau was elected with a plan into forward his progress on climate. Change a lot of the proposals from Jason Kenny. And Scott Mo- would be to halt. His plans halted that progress. A lot at the core of this frustration and a lot of the proposals are to our basic not go so hard on alberta-saskatchewan that's one which are on a per person basis the biggest carbon emitters in the country alberda despite the fact that is not the most populous province is the highest overall all carbon emitter So when you're talking about reducing nationally missions a lot of the attention and pressure goes on how Berta and Saskatchewan performance And while albarn Scotch one or not Wide ranging climate deniers but there is the least support for the climate science and willingness for climate action here in Alberta and and in Saskatchewan Both provinces in a wave you carbon the carbon tax as a as a tax on their industries. They view these bill. C Sixty nine which is Environmental Projects Oversight Bill and and Bill Forty eight which was Trudeau's ban on northern tanker traffic as a direct attack on their industries. Mellberg has always been oil-patch since what the nineteen thirties. You can't change overnight announcement. Somebody's trying to win. It ain't going to work. There does seem to be a collision course between environmental. Oh protection and climate change. Action and the oil sector's right and these demand. That Kenny and mower making did they think that they're going to get any of them. Some of them I mean certainly. They're hoping to they. You know I think what's going to be a challenge for Justin Trudeau and his liberals is to discern what are sincere demands from Kenyon Mo and what are them playing to their basis. You know we heard Jason Kenney me tell the global mail that one of the things he would like is for Katherine McKenna. The federal environment is for it to be moved in the cabinet coming up and how realistic not that well. I think there's a lot of arguments and I tend to subscribe to these arguments. That if you WANNA make sure Just keeps administer be the Alberta the premier says he should he should get rid of he might have just saved Catherine McInnes job really. Here's what I want to ask you today. The idea of industry leaving of investment. Leaving this anger that you talked about whether it's separatism or just general resentment towards Ottawa. There's this real sense of Deja Vu here you know. We spent the show yesterday a diving into all the similarities between the nineteen eighties and today and I've heard people argue that this whole national unity problem is really being overblown. That liberal liberal governments have been locked out of the period before that when it's politically expedient provincial leaders will rekindle the anger and frustration with Ottawa and that this will pass right the the next time a conservative government is elected. Do you think anything is missing from that argument. I think it's the facts on the ground that are pointing to even if the but now that the Conservatives had had one we wouldn't have seen this level of anger as exhibited by the fact that when the Liberals won this anger sort of exploded it felt like it was a tinderbox some leaving kindled interesting to see the difference of the facebook posts like this morning everybody is talking about like Western separation last lake lot of anger Social media from family from friends from people. I don't even know it's democracy. The mob takes what they want and we're left doing what we do. He feels like now. It's the rhetoric getting even worse. This election people hit the panic button but even if the Conservatives lives had won there would have still been a lot of these. The base frustrations that are at the root of this the fact that the energy economy is not doing well. Alberta's not the sizzling sizzling jobs market that used to be pipelines are still frustrated even if you know whether it was sheer or whether it was Justin Trudeau coming into power This month you'd still have Trans Mountain. Expansion pipeline being potentially held up by protesters and by the courts and a lot of that would be out out of political hands ratio. Couldn't just snap his fingers and get this pipeline bill. It's about fast tracking some of the questions that have been raised referring those types of original questions to the Supreme Court right away so that we can get certainty as much as people would like to believe. No he can't those are those are tricky things and this whole issue of equalization which we could probably spend another three podcast episodes getting into the agree on that one but the sense that there's a fiscal fairness to to Al Burda. I'm not sure if shear certainly had no political agenda no promises getting said much on that. And it's not. I'm not really certain what he would have done would have been willing to do you. That would have helped out burden on equalization front and not harm some of the provinces. He's trying to get get votes in Quebec and the Maritimes which get equalization official funds. You you know. What do you think Justin Trudeau can do here to try and bridge this gap with these western provinces? Is there anything he can do. That's bridgeable chapel here. In there there are probably two buckets of things he He's going to look at doing. Our people are asking them to one of them. Is this process stuff and this is where you hear about. Should he appoint a cabinet minister Mellberg and schedule and even though he has no impeach their you know some people in Alberta talking about that but they're not really conservatives. It's a gesture. Certainly people want this idea of having a voice in just Trudeau's inner circle is important but there's a lot of sentiment in the Kennedy Conservative camp or in other people's camps Out West that. That's not what matters what matters is prime minister means what he said last night about listening listening to Alberta and Scotch won the clearest way he could do so would be to Unequivocally commit this new government to the completion of the pipeline that the federal the government owns. So you've seen Jason Kenny. And the Premium Scotch Awan. Scott Mo- put out a list of demands made it very clear what they want And a lot of those can be sort of boil down to Alberto albarn Scotch. Wan Don't WanNa be such a such milk. Cows for confederation we we heard yesterday but milk cow cartoon it it came out around confederation and it. It's a cartoon of a cow and the people in Saskatchewan this Gotcha working very hard to feed the cow and eastern a look they look like bankers are milking the cow at the other end of Canada. Essentially that this this has been a narrative going as far back as confederation. You see that That cartoon I mentioned on all sorts of social media facebook and twitter later It becomes ever popular around this time in the political political cycle. The other things that they're demanding are basically for Justin Justin Trudeau to implement provincial and federal conservative policy platforms They're demanding. He embraced the energy corridor. Plan that Andrew Scheer had add it'll be a transnational quarter. We would envisage this terminating imports. That will allow us to ship our energy around the world so that more countries have access to Canadian Energy. They want him to pause the carbon tax which seems very unlikely given that whole election that was one of the main things that people voted for MHM in this election. They wanted to scrap some of the bills that people view as anti pipeline. We would be willing to be flexible on for example both the emissions cap on the oil sands if we could exempt oil sands projects from the The disastrous new bill C sixty nine. There's another layer to this as well alright. So yesterday on the show we talked about. How Burdens Scotch one thing? Ottawa panders to Quebec that their demands are taken more seriously in that threats of separatism have worked in Quebec's fever and today we have this federal party the block which holds a huge amount of power coming out of this election more power than it's held in years and talked talked a lot about climate change policies. Getting rid of oil. His US energy is setting. Relation is Subic is us. And how do you think this will complicate. Trudeau's job moving forward. He now sits minority government and he needs other third parties to get stuff done. He faces there to pressures that. You're speaking to here. One is can he bridge to Alberta and Saskatchewan and still get votes from the minority partners that he has lucky. BECUA- the MVP that's going to be one of his biggest challenges right now. The good thing is he can You know there'll be some issues. Say if Trans Mountain pipeline has to come to a vote again. The Deacon get votes from the Conservatives and not have to worry about what what the Bloc Quebecois Gua- or the MVP think right But the other thing you talk about when you think about the Bloc Quebecois you also think about the potential out West for another Western splinter party to perform because not only does just treat to have this This challenge of bridging so does anders sharing the Conservative Party A huge chunk of their. MP's are this big Saskatchewan. So Scotch One BERTA block. And their voters and their constituents are going to be demanding that the Conservatives fight for them under Shear said he's GonNa fight fight for the interests of Auburn's Scotch wanted so rejected the liberal. We'll do everything we can to make sure that this liberal government understands that it has to change course. I cannot continue to attack her energy sector to kill a big projects that get our natural resources around the world but sheer in the Conservatives face risk if they play too much to the wants and needs of the oil producing base in Saskatchewan and Alberta the risk alienating. Some of the people that they're trying GONNA get votes from in Quebec Ontario so they have that same Balance Act Bouncing Act. That Trudeau has right Canadians in Alberta and Scotch. You know that you are and the central part of our great country. I've heard your frustration and I want to be there to support you. Let us all work hard hard to bring our country together if the liberal count follow through on some of these big demands from Moen Kenny. I like repealing bill. C Sixty nine like guaranteeing transmission pipeline gets built and on top of that the liberals were elected at least in part because of the promise of future action on climate change. Let's say they try and meet in the middle here and they did some other massive thing like through all this money it all Berta to help with renewable energy projects to get people back to work. Would would that do anything. I have a feeling it might not it. Depends on what what exactly is For two reasons one is if he puts a lot of money into renewable renewable energy in talking about the transition away from oil and gas. Albertans are really afraid to talk seriously. And there's a real resistance of talking about the transition transition away from oil and gas you think back to that one time in two thousand Seventeen Justin Trudeau talked about phasing out the oil sands. We can't shut down Wilson's tomorrow. We need to phase them out. We need to manage the transition off of our dependence on fossil fuels. He's had a non-combat. Paul is right. Away I misspoke. I said something the way I shouldn't have said it to hear out burdens. Talk about it. You'd think that he said that every day for the last five years so that's one level of skepticism. The other is that I spoke to the liberal MP's running Alberta in Edmonton and Calgary and they spent a lot of their campaigns talking about the structure That Justin Trudeau did bring hit the spending he did in Alberta and I they talk about the four point five billion dollar pipeline purchase. Do those did not sell well. Those were not good sales There is something. It's you know how people talk about the the oil price differential going out BERTA. That bitch is worth a little bit less a certain amount less than regular oil. Well I think in Alberta there is something that I call the Trudeau credibility differential if any any other politician were to buy a pipeline or to create a large infrastructure project in Alberta. They would get this much credit true that much less but just generally distrustful all of him here so of course like we heard yesterday that is certainly informed by his father's legacy that's right people are just the the name is is tarnished here and people are very sensitive. Anything he says. That's derogatory toward the energy sector or gainst outburts Scotch. One is regions. There's a bit of a hair trigger. Here you're so almost anything. He does That's could be argued as throwing money at the problem Might well be rejected popularly So I think this brings me back to the question that I asked earlier. which is is not clear to me that he can really do anything here to quell this anger anger particularly with this threat? Existential threat of climate change hanging over all of this like Paul right like the Liberals World have bought a pipeline for four point. Five billion dollars. It seems to have done nothing to quell any of the discontent in Burton's Scotch Awan and it's not clear to me. What other real options they have? Besides what might feel like tokenism to the people who live there and please correct me. If you think. I'm wrong wrong. I think Donna's his inner circle must feel a bit of damned if you do damned if you. Don't you know if they if they pick a cabinet minister from the senator they appoint a a a mayor from one of the big cities in Alberta Saskatchewan. They'll get accused of being undemocratic from out here and if they don't do that they're going to be saying. You guys have ignored us. Why couldn't you pick anybody? Aren't there any of the five million people from the West that he could pick Four one of those seats you know. So only as their this tension I mean if you if you make some equalization reform it harms Quebec. How does that benefit Alberta? How'd you bounce that But there's also the will they just dislike almost anything I I do You know until I suddenly some. Maybe maybe he can change his last name right or maybe he can change his last time or or or you know. The Carbon Tax holiday holiday to Auburn and Scotch one on the carbon tax would be to to severely undermine Canada's national climate. Change Plan So he faces a frustration. Is there an people will be ticked off. You know. There's not much sympathy in a large swath of Progressive Canada for the out the plight of Alberta Saskatchewan Part of that is born out of not really understanding the the employment situation here the economic situation out here the the sense of dread out here and part of is just because people have a perception that that Auburn's schedule and it's our our rich whiners. That's not helping but that's a certain a huge sentiment from from progressive. That you hear out here to the great for a facing of people out here right because you know we have certainly heard a lot of stories on this podcast of people who have lost their homes. The economic anxiety is Is Real there. There was no British green that people in Saskatchewan Newfoundland in interior B. C. had to work on the rigs make money. Bring it home to your family. That cream is largely gone that that that is no longer thing. And that's very disorienting. That fact Jason. I really hope that We can stay with you on this and they'll come back and let us know what you think in a couple of weeks or months time I'd be happy to thank you so much cheers and the before I let you go some news. I just WANNA mention late last week. It was announced that Encana accompany with a very long history in Canada is moving. Its headquarters from Calgary to the United States. The company says the move isn't going to impact jobs or spending but it seen as a real blow by Burton Work in the energy industry. So I feel you know maybe we can build a company. That's the biggest strongest oil and gas company had there for we have no chance really notion Sabih takeover. But what I didn't of course anticipate is that through government policy that actually debilitated the industry. It would excited necessary to kind of export itself of I get put it that way and then on Monday. The Alberta separatist group W- exit the one that we've been talking about for the last two days here on the show show. Will they apply to become a federal political party. Elections Canada is now processing application

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#70 - Resident Evil 8 Rumors

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#70 - Resident Evil 8 Rumors

"You're listening to fam- cast a four hour kind podcast with your hosts the competitive spirit trae Simpson. Send our own devil's advocate Tim Webber and the hopelessly optimistic. Trevor Jorgensen this is fantast. Hey everyone and welcome back to fan cast. This is episode seventy and that's the big seven zero zero guys. That's that's quite seven zero seven zero. That's that's pretty. That's pretty impressive. You're going to be seventy one day. I don't even WanNa hit thirty this year. Man That's forty years away from seventy. Yeah Yeah Athlete is sixty. He'll be in twelve sixty seventy and more than half way to fifty basically forty l.. Ready might as well right up my will but at the same time. Think about where you you were fifteen years ago. That seems forever away. I was starting to world of warcraft for the first time. Fifteen years ago about how long ago that yeah that is man times times hunts. A bitch isn't it. It's an interesting. It's a bunch of Whibley. Wobbly tiny wine structure is man. Wow Yeah fifteen. Years ago being trae were in middle school. Yeah no where we was middle school era. Freshmen where it'll school. At that point in time you did something wrong wrong. I don't know yeah. That would have been a freshman year. I guess right for freshman and a sophomore doesn't matter better time sucks. Were getting old. We're all GONNA die. Welcome to episode seventy. We've been up to some pretty cool things lately. I think so tim especially who's been delving into like five different new games at once. One of those yeah One of those. He just did an interview on Tim Tim which I think is very appropriate. Tim Tim with with Tim. Tim gave it a territory sunny it did you make. Did you give it a tim. Tim Tim Him. Stop it this is going to. It was fun. It's fun. They the Games fun like I recommend checking out the in to just to kind of get a quick burst of what it is in short format but it is fun. I mean it is poking on clone but again kind of like I said in that. It's not a bad thing it is. Its own own thing. It's definitely the same kind of concept monster collecting a battling but it's at least they do it different enough sure and move with competition like there's no there's no reason for a company like game pre to innovate. You know granted. I think that they say they do a good job of that. They're always changing things up. But that's not. I love sorting shield. I think it's Great Sword. Shield is designated one of the best entries but we won't dive into except Decks getting into Yeah I'm I would like to get into Tim Tim a little bit but I kind of have a hard time. Differentiating it from polk. Amman like I feel like I'd be too into the like the monsters and poke Amman so fully enjoy it but that's the toughest thing for me is like none of these are what I know and I enjoy it because new new. But there's no cypher scheming more right but it but it is. It is fun is I do recommend I'm not bashing flat like you said I mean I don't WanNa monopoly of monster collectors. You know becoming a things is that they had an awfully said nothing else will show pokemon like hey we should do it immemorial compete and then tim gets his dream and we call it a day. I'd have all been calling for this for ten years. Listen to whatever then we will just shut down and famine timmel go the a hermit and just play this book one among the rest of his life. I agree yeah. That's a good sign also been playing on. Both dived lived into ruined Tara the riot right card game on gosh very good very good so I'm very from from someone that's only played heart sound sound like I haven't even played magic How would you how would you compare it to something like stone? What sets it apart from the other car games out there? Won't you wash Tim into into or the to make a good year kidding But no but but I I like a couple of the good like notes that I say is this is like the only card game that I'm aware of and I could be wrong. That technically the only difference between terms and even this isn't that different so you can battle On each turn if depending on the criteria she mediate so oh so you basically have a system set up to where on on each turn. The only difference is who can attack. He's still play card. It's still play spells doesn't matter all of that can be done the only differences who can attack but there are criteria in the game that allows you to also attack on that same turn Which is very interesting and add some interesting elements on top of the main? That's actually probably one of the coolest ause the man a how that works so every turn Karston Trevor. I'm going to put this in comparison sake for you. You get get heart stone. What do you want the heart's on Mrs May know what is it called her since Mana? Manna Crystal right main of crystals. In harstad right so now if you have McChrystal's leftover in Hairston though at the term they just go while this game Up to three of those get reserved into spell Mana. So now you can go into a term and let's say it's turned four so everybody has four Mana but you saved up your last whole last term so now you have three additional spell minutes with technically you have seven main now those three. Yeah those can only be used in on spells but that can give you a very nice edge that you otherwise wouldn't be able to have write US pretty awesome. That is on top on champion cards miata level up. It's like a case of harsh words. It's it's a lot of familiarity. Says it's already set in a world that we understand already which is interesting. Because like their the building out storylines with Enroute Tara the kind of coincide with the legends itself that's cool which is pretty cool And we're seeing characters that in legal legends they talk about like actual card like name the cards in the game. cheery in legends retire which is pretty interesting interesting. Yeah that's neat a different way of storytelling. That you wouldn't really expect from a card game Because I know like usually with Karston it's very like joking joking like very like comic relief but yes there's some pretty good Cephas Doan route era and I like the game primarily because of the whole champion system. So like your your character or your your deck is built off of either either to to what's it called like two regions orcas do. Yeah which one obviously. But I like the two region thing sing-along mixture some really interesting combinations of stuff. 'cause each region definitely has their own like elmes so so for example there's Democracia I believe. Democracy doesn't have anything for killing any. It has no spells for killing anything if I recall but it has spells spells to buff things right and then Free for your am I saying that right. Fr- fr- yeah that one. They have a lot of again again. Not Killing things per se but frost biting things. So they don't have the things can't do damage Scott. What's really neat? So like I was making a deck right then. I made a deck with DOC with team. Oh and as right should name it that actually you and I have So I have have there to regions and had to try to figure out some kind of control to make it work and realistically speaking. There's two routes I could go but one route that so other than and what they're region is the other route. Two routes go woman's going to have a lot more killing ability as where the other route was going to have a bit more like a allusive nece in giving things elusive and stuff. So so like you really have to think ahead as the really what you want this deck to do because you have a maximum of two routes you can go and if you if you need something I think that third row you're not going to be able to get you just can't so unlike Karston where they have like cards that can be used in every deck right because they have those like universal cards is doesn't have that so each card is unique to its own region. That's really Advocate Saad Element. I like it a lot against like the one thing besides is from having to pay for a lot of cards. That are soon kind of injuries. Your creativity in a way. 'cause like you're you're locked into this one character type hype menu you can always sell like like hunter inside play hundred ago and say I've got one hundred but I wanNA use like this really cool Dragon Dragon Card but it's only in warriors deck whereas in hostile and you'd be like okay. I WANNA play. I WANNA have my champion cards selected around thrash rush during Tehrani also want yes I retire. I want You know my cards recent around thrash and then I want my card center around Dairy says well. Oh you can do that and then you can select from the shadow Al type cards you can select from the Nacion Dot Kurds. Which I think is the best part about it? I think it's really neat by They do it is. There is a pay to win mechanic and why me live after getting cards but it's probably less so in this game than any other card game for the simple reason that they limit how many cards you can buy her week. So prices can only by by bike so when you go to the store they have like and they don't sell specific cards. They sell things that turns into cars. How dust right for from Hurston okay? And and they basically have it set up where okay you can only buy three champion cards. Six normals or six Commons six raiders. which crying being? So you can only card correct. And that's it. Wow but Is the do get like a different rotation of cards that you can craft every grew weaker. You you're just open to the whole open everything you're open to everything because when you buy these these crafting cards just like a wildcard essential yet. Harnack card into anything GOTCHA. Gotcha Another nice thing is as you're playing. You select what region you want to technically. Be Leveling up as you play and level up and gain X. P. You gain install from that region. So if you're working on on a democracy Dagon with Garin them I can make sure I'm from that region and Ataullah all get cards that help better suit that debt banks okay. It's just it's really well thought. Yeah yeah it really is like it sounds sounds pretty Pretty creative in its in its a strategy there. It's also free to play and I think the only thing you can. Currently by is the crystals the cards and then Start affected by. But it's like five bucks and you get like ten cards from each region. I think there's something like that. which is I bought it but I bought it five bucks mean Kim has up on so many cards get so it's fun though? I really do enjoy it and invite you to its relented. Roland is like superb. Every single Toya let you do. It was totally worth and I give you a ton of rewards so they definitely getting reasons to do. It needs to come in mobile already. Yeah that's the only thing. It's missing out his mobile version. And you get her heart stone for that. Yeah I don't I don't remember what what the timeframe was on that is a while getting the The what what a file format and I was playing all my phone before like it was technically a mobile. Because I'm GonNa Gustav in working with mice. Yeah I mean I still lived in Huber when hurston originally launched stealing was a google share. Whatever you'd like I clean your computer or whatever it goes on the computer screen you could like contributor from your phone ice by Sean? That way to you. 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Steam what afterward about making their own service to do that and Google would have to make their own service was to sell games or the It the Like that's all there needed to be. You still have your stadium. Yeah one hundred percent children's over here. They played in a check it out. It's like cobwebs on it. Looks like it's just sat there for ten years. It's got every once in a while. Doing something got on there. I think has logged in to get the free games. Did you get so. They borland's three on there which is awesome but like you you guys already bought it on. PC rebuy on Stadia. How Tom is at album is that? There's no incentive for me if I already owned the game there's no incentive for me to rebuy it right will you complete everywhere which is a great idea. But I don't want to revive the game for that small thing. That won't happen often. If I won a game mike can play everywhere up by a switch. Dr You don't even have your project x cloud. There's so many zetter paths to to take with that than I don't know I know that's kind of getting off off topic. There would be. Yeah that that just seems like a complete miss man. X. Cloud is awaited top. xbox is going to be great it is top dog right now it is so good I cannot find a single thing that I'm upset about it with right now every once in a while it could be like my connection or something like that but for the most part it's it's so clean dude likely to that five G. Hits Man will be clean at the Five G. Felony Thirty. Yeah so that's that's twenty was leaked the pricing stuff. It's interesting I think we did a a reveal next Tuesday. That's when Samsung as news. The eleven you just want my tinsel puts the making different Samsung Buds. Are they missiles. We really need assistance. I'm like Heart set well we we do have some news. We wanted to To talk about today because I think we've kind of talked about it like just in passing like one off. We haven't really had a discussion about it especially since With the way the tim streams went in January playing through resonable. Three In Code Veronica we got some rumors about resident evil eight which granted. They are rumors just from rumors. Yeah supposedly from a play tested. Capcom had had a couple of months ago. Yeah the and they're very interesting. Some of them I think are kind of maybe not obvious but maybe not surprising and then some of them just seemed really out there like is this really going to happen. So Sim- with you you are still the master of not yet made a name change of all. I'll let you a kick things off with whichever whichever rumor you WANNA. We'll just pick support one by one with whatever start with. Look I understand that the the the series resonate all about bio weapons okay and and that can lead to many different paths and can do many different things but can we not have where wolves in this game where wolves man. I mean or or like if you're going to have where wolves please make it unique. Please make it your own thing. Like don't let it just be. Oh Yeah it's a where we'll make it maybe. It looks like a wear wool right and they didn't know how to describe it other than where Wolf but like don't make it a werewolf like I think that there's yeah don't have it'll be like killing global with like silver bullets. You need silver bullets. And he only comes out at the full moon a like so. Is it like right. Well that's that's the question is it a Wolfman or is it a werewolf like I doubt that this is going to be something that changes forms back and forth like. That doesn't seem well. What if something interesting? Some resident evil knowledge to throw action case. You guys didn't know the soul to bring it back to someone talking about the liquor and I bring us to a reason so the liquor the reason he has no liquor becomes a liquor though so the liquor becomes liquor because the Zombie dying sensually. Okay and what happens is as zombies dying. The virus then takes a second effect essentially because as you're body's dying it releases releases these hormones and stuff right so same thing. That happens with the with Zombie. Science doesn't get food because it's donates food is still technically the same as you in me. It's just is more primal. Hi Mojo in wants food right in this resident. Evil zombies. Aren't the living dead very different. They're not dead they're they're just they're not It's it's it's an interesting but essentially there's someone who has been injected with virus and turned or if you're bit the virus gets into you turns you rice as the big difference between that and the living dead Baba least most of them are Yes Oh the ones that aren't the living dead. They're still technically alive. And as their body he starts to die because it's not ingesting food or whatever it been releases the secondary trigger of this virus that then basically terms it into a liquor to help it survive so it becomes stronger morse into all these things that loses all skin. It's brain like basically become so large that the school has to break apart and it covers up the eyeballs which is why they're blind And it becomes more of a hunter than it is now Asami. So that's his last resort. So maybe this is a different segment from that. Maybe aby as the Zombie dies it instead of triggering it to becoming into like liquor per se. Now there's this other virus at does something else to protect the body from dying. I don't know try. Maybe reason. Maybe how it's like the the hunters were originally lizards right or O'Hara yeah. Yeah definitely Deleon so maybe like the center changes from like they. Maybe they injected it with some kind of we'll sing and they hunt as like a pack and maybe it's kind of like a little row of mentality thing. I don't know I I'd be interested to see how it works out because I think if umbrella got their hands on some kind one of its new umbrella. Now they're good guys was old umbrella or whatever. This new new formation is Anybody other hands on some kind of I don't even know what it would originally came from plan right. The the holy any essentially the violent virus Karang laying. What if they found some other plant that made someone like very primal vary like wolf-like or something Mike and Mike we can make a weapon into this and then that's how these worlds can be? I Dunno I just hope the word Wolf doesn't go into like I always want. We're we're or wolf. I just I just wanted to be its own thing. Because here's I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because seven was amazing like seven was sold good. I can't imagine taking a step back from that granted. We also have six happened so I don't know for sure but I I. It's since named him. I'd like to think that they know what they're doing. This Capcom Golden Age man except for it Infrastructure Street fighter except for differ is noise Resident Evil's Golden Age K- arena golden age. But that's a everyone else's we'll make Ryan Devil may cry and the cry but everything else I take. These people like we did. Good mega man game. But there's goes they do. It's just they're fighting him. Division needs COQ decisions like it's more more than just streetfighter. Moreover scandal died away like they could add so much more support for that. But that's also part of these faulty so and So where wolves. Yeah and. I'm assuming that's just because the person didn't know what else called. That's what they look again. That's one that's one I'm going with that's giving me hope hope What else we Chris redfield making a return right? Yeah which which. That's one of those. That isn't really surprising. Since now we saw the end of seven once he clear again man I need to see claritin new HD corral. I wonder enhancement then. You didn't you to see her. In resident evil two and Revenue See. I wonder new residents only if you call it like a new universe but in this universe I am doing remakes of three or two and three. If that's going to coincide with this new era of risen evil you know what I mean. I wonder if they'll have callback to certain events but I mean I can so again from my understanding and I believe this is proper because I believe Capcom said this. This was never a reboot. Seven was never a review. It is definitely a continuation Now I don't know if it's a continuation I gotta see if they're still considering six in it. I only ask that because a lot of shit what happens is These just that I don't know so there's that but will maybe we'll get a lot of those answers in this Dana right like that's the potentially as maybe we'll we get a lot of his answers in this game But I also heard a rumor that Chris's going through another redesign in this game. Though did you see that can punch larger boulders. Because like if you look at him like you went from like resonable one and Code Veronica like a normal size man it in five. He's like Nah. I'm chat I can punch voters you know. And then we see him again. Seventies like normal size man again. Yeah okay so I don't know if he's Jackal Mr Hi. I'm not sure around why Chris is maybe he. Apparently he's like bulking up. 'cause maybe bulking season and then he got called to this mission and then that's true. I mean that does come round seven time. Maybe he was like in between Five and six and then in between that six and seven you know he started to lean down. You Know Agile. No the these new viruses verses of KUNA. I gotta say quick feet so he leaned up. I don't know and then at six we air seven. We have him slim down. Like you're saying I'm honestly of everything I'm more curious about. Is why new umbrella. I Yeah Yeah for sure like why I bring that name anywhere close to who you are. They definitely have some brand problems I would sprite. His company has done nothing but harm in every single way possible. And you don't make it better see you guys might be able to shed some light on this more than I can cause really this is just. This is just a thought 'cause because I don't I don't know much about the story of three. So what if you know after seven you know they they obviously have the story played out At least to some degree and then they they do two and three to maybe kind of solidify Maybe not not ret con some things but maybe Kind of solidifies. Some story elements before the jump into the next chapter with eight. So maybe they're they're doing this. I don't know if anything really changed in two but maybe something different will happen in three not drastically but enough for them to walk the stand like okay. This is Canon now so yeah and that's an interesting element element because as I mean. I assume we are to take the new resin. You'll to and what I assume his threes now cannon. His there are different. Things that happened in the original in the original one On my God. Why can't these Kuntoro as name won't blink? Moore's name The gun shop owner. Thank you He he's not dead leading this one. He died within like the first five minutes of the of the original Leahy. He's over there. Lock in the door like Dr Juris Lock Never Glover Blood and is like. That's what happens. And so there and there are different elements like there are so. I'm very intrigued to see what they do with three. Because maybe you're right. Maybe we'll get some lakers. My my thought and an unjust brainstorming right. If Chris Chris isn't necessarily working for them by his own free will like and bear with me. Like maybe they have jill or maybe they have. Claire Lives is no way that as like a hostage taken again. There's absolutely no way she could be like Princess Peach you never know but maybe something. Maybe something's going on to where he's forced to work with them for a reason. Maybe there's a greater evil out there then even them i. I don't know because technically umbrellas con umbrella is gone in the resin. You will series. Og umbrella is gone in code. Veronica it is gone when when did this happen even when it umbrella. Free Shirts and Code Veronica like ninety percent shirts in Code Veronica When would or would we see? When does that fall between after three after three? Okay so at four four or there's no umbrella. There should be no umbrella. I if I if I aim to be correct now I have to do my research into double check by impre- sure there's no umbrella at this point because wes curry people I neither remember like whisker. He wasn't he. He gave to Fox about anybody even umbrella. He didn't care no he wanted to become one. God himself so he didn't care about any corporation. He used what he needed to use to get to where he needed to get sure. That's it that's all about. That's why he killed Spencer getting care like he wanted to become a God and he got in anybody's way who can stop them and he used umbrella for what he needed to use them for and he didn't give Fox. That's why in four when he see talking to. You assuming bleeds the talking to EVA. Eva is helping him get logs and stuff like that. which appreciate trump doing four after Code Veronica by the way but I will slam through that game under the game of Nola Andy So Oh I'm intrigued to see. I'm really just because of the Laura Loan I WanNa know what the Hell's going on in this world. I'd be interested to see if they make talk of the other whisker children. I so here's here's some thoughts food for thought all the other whiskered there only two living people that we are supposed to be aware of the. I believe it's the postage postage became an that. made it out of the West that the West Coast experiment right there is Albert and there was Alexi. I believe is how you pronounce a name those are it one. We see and I believe guttering never. She's the one in revelations too I'm pretty sure she's the one revelations to see our exit now. Apparently gently up on so mad at this is true. Apparently there's a new show slash movie or whatever coming out about it or something and it's supposed host to host two other children not not west children in terms of the experiment but West children as an Albert went out and had whiskered had little West Grace Food and we already have Jake Bright Rome six from Lavar and like look like just have a hard time processing processing that game to shits about having kids like like into me. The whole he's out there doing he has to do to become the God that he wanted to be. Calm Tom and the way he treats everybody I just I feel like he he he he was to like all about his business. Get Down with some business. Yeah I mean but I guess a man's gotTa do what a man got a new. I mean I don't know but like I just I date. Here's the thing no matter what. It is no matter what they're thinking. They need to let whisker die. Yeah Yeah Albert Albert whisker needs to be. Don't ruin his name. Yeah he was a mazing. He's the best antagonists of any game series to me. Stop trying to ruin his name. I am and he game five. That man did what he wanted to do. Five well Kinda until the end Bresca was great and then they just throw them in love alumina volcanoes like and he was still alive. That man lived through my worst fears that took a rocket to the base two rockets as to and so many people are like no. He's not dead. I'm like I could see. I could see what you're doing. Something like cloning himself or getting tonight's Kennedy territory. That would make more sense. I I we at least by that more than would the the alternative we. I could see like Jake intern. Being like a West clone that necessarily like is actual child so then that brings up a good question. Actually so I would assume whisker if Jake is actual child. 'cause I mean it's Kinda like bringing Maury and you know your father because we don't have the evidence at all he we know that's what he says the right like that's what he says But I would like to think that if Albert actually did have a child I I guess depending on what had happened. man winning without because Howell was jade because if it was before it was before or he injected himself with the t virus. Then that would explain why I guess he doesn't have powers. I don't know there's timeframes. I knew no tingle whisker like before he decided it'd be like uncle to become a God was like Br essentially like Albert I. He had the virus in him. If he did have a child. You'd think that there would be some kind of genetic year something there because Jacobs Very much just a person who runs a lot So I don't know man I just don't want I just don't want them to ruin the whisker name. I don't want it to become one of those things where he's got the and westbound ever GonNa get excited because we're not yet. Let him be not outbreak. Something new. It's not going to be Albert and if it is our than dumb messed up. Bardia Moco Whisker Echo West okay. I'll accept that I will accept Mecca. Anything I took a clone. I would need to be some kind of like Clo- it would have to be He. I would take him as the kind of man who probably would potentially have but clone or something who would use his DNA for something. I get lease except that much Flipping back to these other rumors that we have. So apparently you. Thin is going to be our protagonist again in this shoot first person shooter. Schutte game shooting game. I don't I'm I'm not attached the Ethan at all like I'm really Ni- I think he makes his poor decisions I mean I'm sorry. Why would you choose is your wife who just told you like Tim S. beforehand that she was helping ship a bio weapon to an area that also killed a whole perfectly fine family over? Was it Khloe yet her name. Yeah over Khloe when it came to the buyers because that's astoundingly cannon that's the Cannon Route Yeah Ams like does Ethan shootings violent. Yeah Nathan chooses wipe wipe his cannon because the DLC for Chloe we with chloe's grand uncle uncle our shoes we are. Yeah the I mean said seven was great. I I think we all agree on that but I didn't get I didn't get close to Ethan like I. There's no there's no real attachment to his character. Hate the man never. You'll always see this. That's it yeah you don't see anything else. I know these hands. They've been chopped up and my legs when taken from me. I just or that stuff on them in a mall. Good staple your hand Dan back on sample. Your back bought it worse by sure. Why not? That's how that's how Biology AG works. Yup I just man I don't know like not on again. Liana Liane oh or what. He's like yeah. I like to see like Maybe another city Sort of thing that necessary like swap or write something like that. Maybe there's like another city outside of Kim city that you know had a similar effect on it's going to be back into that city environment. I gives you like that. Close quarters that that which we are getting zombies. Yeah yeah a scroll Oh that's cool. Rumors are true. We're getting zombies back. ZOMBIES are bad ass. Everybody like zombies. Yeah that's one thing about seven that was Kinda like Kinda Boring was oh you got the same enemy over and over just different. It's different versions of the same enemy. Like I wish I would now. This one has a blade for an nor does this has one small but really fast. This one's fat that's it. This one's really fat Yeah in and then again not to take away from the game itself because it was still even how it was it was it was a terrifying experience was late. They didn't really well and it was fantastic. I think In resident evil isn't just about zombies right like bioweapons primarily bio weapons. But that doesn't mean that's not what we don't like to the very base foundation foundation of their bioweapons weapons were turning people into mindless soldiers and monsters. And that's how what's the best way to defeat your enemy as long light hunting against. Yeah so I'm down for it I just I don't want resonate would become just about Ethan. Because if if if that's true it's going to be the first game in the series that the sequel is a is the protagonist in the sequels of direct like. There's lots. Yeah which I guess is fine but give me more. Yeah don't comic put a book do something to flush him out a little bit more. Just don't don't do the same things over and over again just because your last name. Innovate make a different innovate. In a little bit I mean I get the whole saying this was not broken. What did you say where was we'll take make if you're going to make a character a new character and use them again even needs to be flushed more in some kind of like outside media whether there'd be a colleague who is e rate but we don't we just know that he some do and maybe that's maybe that's what we get? Maybe that's the point. Is we find out WHO Ethan is in this game and we're a dick or something like I don't know maybe we set the whole thing up about Evelyn. I Dunno But I agree we need to know who Ethan is. He's the senior West went to is. What is he's a whisker clone armor Josh Trevor? No list like if you if you look at the characters knievel. They've been put into other things right like you got Kristin to Marvel's Capcom Games. You have Jill in two more of what yen again to other marvels Capcom Gains A. You've got also whisker. You know these like notable names like you. Don't see Ethan in but we also know who they are right. I mean I guess that's right. That's the big difference. Is We know who Chris has a story. Jill has a story Leon has a story. Claire has a story which Ethan went to save his wife who ended up being a person anyway. But I don't have you ever noticed this. I think is reasonable to not the remake. I think maybe the original one In one of the documents one of the original people who worked on the t virus like that I think it's either that that is either a a scientist or a policeman those in Reconsidering Ethan Like their name was Ethan. I don't remember the full name but yes so that could be interesting to have that dynamic of those five seven walk to the document that was in two. I think it was into. I'll find it 'cause I thought I remember. I think I remember what you're talking about. Or someone found a document to where there is an ethan that yes they were which would be which would be interesting. 'cause you think you know which actually not only would that be interesting. That would make a lot of sense as to why they came to the house because how else also they know to come there. Right like grain is big. Bioweapon outbreak. Happening Mehran which. I'm sure which you know we've been doing this for twenty years. You think we get this shit under control role by now you would think money talks. Money doesn't do shit whereas monsters INC like there's monsters everywhere we go tell us go his monster twenty bucks to not interface do it. Yeah I might do revelations next to the FBI has ever seen revelations I've put though that's the the one that was on reality and no one thought it was gonna be good and amount of being phenomenal and they ported BC and consuls interesting. And oh I remember. They'll yeah I might wind play Max. I haven't played that on console yet. I only played it on the thirty. S is but so good does one of the first three D. S. Games too and it was so good. Wow that was a long longtime ago. I worked at the Huber game. Stop at that time. IRA GET my first three S. And looking and that the bag legislate. Yeah yeah okay all right now. I can't see my eyes across Idaho. Yeah never never use the three D.. Never nope never never know when I just had the dust off my old three DSL. Just yes I can make sure my means you can find my charger. Yep still nor mind's eye legit avenue idea where Machar's yet my three days not a micro USB. I don't remember minds that either. I'm upset that I find that. Does that Lozada one that I got. I got that one day I will see right. Yeah 'cause I'm like some guy got some guy. Got Mad at me. 'cause I put one aside for trait shows hilarious and nothing's eight last person to come in and get it to. Yeah sorry circulated behind US asking for it and sold out. He got the last one. She's like death stared me. Sorry good Ta. That's a made I still I have that one. and the majority's masculine still way too. I've left I had the golden one which towards the Golden One. There's a few golden ones. There's the there's a link between worlds As is the Tri Force on either side. And then there's the majority's mask one which is also I think the majority mass worming ninety percent. Sure I think you do two things. We both got that. Yeah it's the mentors doors mass worn down. 'cause I sold. I sold my poke Amman. I bought the poke on one. When X and Y came out ended up selling that and then sold the Tri Force One to a sold that try force one for like four hundred bucks? Oh Yeah I remember missile. Good money from selling three S.'s. Because at one point in time I had like four three s and I was like this. This isn't right this is this is this is a problem as he p- reorders a second antenna switch. Xm Ryan Nice the good one thorough. They're all good. I guess bringing back I don't know I. I have hopes of good hope for it because I remember I remember I remember petric. The farm remember subscribe comes when the announcement trailer for resume. Co Seven got announced. I was flipping my shit I stoked for I was excited. TRAE was angry agree with that. Yeah I think I saw the video somewhere. Yeah we definitely have it somewhere. That was the game awards wasn't it. Yeah Yup back in the old place. Yeah how that's hard to believe what I don't know you think even had a face. Sorry I was like dude some Google searching but apparently this is him. Yeah yeah well. He's terrier that I thought. When did they ever show him in the game? Whatever am I worried about it trays data-mining resident evil late Capcom report him? So Red Beard Guy Comes at all no worse you brought this on yourself trae I just wait what the media to get by. You just let it happen whereas all I have hopes where I'm try I'm putting my trust in them that where wolves are not. It's GonNa be fun it's GonNa make sense. It's all asked to do to make sense. Mika Luebbe Luba sense you know Yeah Alan and I get resistance with Fresno three coming out soon. Alexander Resistant Fox Ray. I'm afraid go get it on. Its thing is xbox one x for like one hundred fifty bucks. I'm tempted to. Why would you not seri- expelled? Because it's one hundred fifty dollars they don't have right now but if not you sell the regular experts right you at the general and says I WANNA play resistance with my friend. Yeah either at. I think the hardest person is going to be Zach to convince him you. It'll be cross believe that that won't be like between bills. y'All would've been announced eighteen. PC xbox Eunice psychics boxes been at night groundwork laid down. Pretty Ba- theak. We'll see we'll see. Maybe it'll be one of the like cross game because of X.. Cloud or something. I don't know dude. I really hope we'll get exiled like any of them. I will play that at work just at that point saying thought is it's too good dude. Like Down Pat. It works well and it's just fun dude. I don't know there's evil eight. We have eight of these games now but core games but some agenda on how many others besides the the seven core games current we are there. Let's the revelations revelations to dead eye survival viral outbreak outbreak filed to gay One on the DS or Yes called There's one dead silent island dead silence. How so that's at least seven dead Operation Raccoon Suri mercenaries I probably missing all Dr Science Relic radical umbrella. Chronicles There was one released in Japan. That never made it to the states. That don't remember what it was did not go well at all But it was basically like a resume will shoot her I'm not going to count it 'cause I don't remember the name of it and it wasn't released here but there is something else outfit Cassidy already. Yeah Yeah we said that one of so at least at least just off the top of my head. Twelve that umbrella. The multiplayer one yes. Yes umbrella corps umbrella cort interesting. Is that the Japanese on. Yeah Asha Ios so eight main titles twelve at the very least fide titles well and Code Veronica Technically Code Veronica doesn't fall to one through eight. Yeah even though it has actually Kinda main series games plus to be there for the role of them rate roots at everyone wants it to be should should should have named it. Three well received three should've been named so something right so essentially resonated three was supposed. Just be a side project like more of like a two point five kind of ordeal right like that. Essentially that's what was going to be really cold. Risen evil like one point nine in an two point one yes lead. It was some thing but the people making resonable three wound up dropping the ball so they put so then cap complicate. We're completely just put all our money and things to this two point five nemesis game and they made it a full-fledged game which is also kind of why it's short yet 'cause no very long right. It isn't shorter resin evil game but it's one of the best. There is so Zura Difference Between Code Veronica Code Veronica X There are a few differences. You get a few more cut scenes with West Gir- There is There's there there are There's not a lot but they're New playable able character. You gotTA play a Steve Play Stephen The og 'cause code. Veronica came out on dreamcast only Kovar X. Playstation two when it started steve sure does look different between the two games. girled Steve Steve. Dude are those all the The rumors for late for now isn't there isn't it's worth the announced like soon wasn't that another rumor that is going to be announced that like in Tab ury something or maybe I'm I don't know I mean they. They did announce the the thing for the resident evil ambassadors. We got for that play test that they're inviting people we'll to oh you mean like. They announced that we could play it. Yeah well they didn't announce it was residue But I could be another resistance. Beta like a Public tests for some have like this is something number. It could I won't I won't say that it's not but they also want like these are only in select parts throughout the country or throughout the world. I should say so. I wouldn't think that they would have you go to like la or New York. Just oh we have to go there to play. Yeah yeah these are not I want to do. The best experience ever get selected. Yeah that's what I'm saying man. I'm will be sick for sure. I will explain like look I need this Laurie. Don't listen to this. I don't care. She has Laurie. I cough cough right now. Yeah yeah that'd be that'd be a fun experience. It was fun just playing at packs that that one demo very expensive experience to good now granted did we wouldn't need a We wouldn't necessarily need a a hotel we could just fly in and fly out true then fly out with the horrors of what we saw. Yeah Yep Samis I'm excited. Yeah me too man. I've I've got high hopes since they've been Dental out there franchises division but Everything else has been pretty solid. No I agree. I I think that about wraps it up. Seventy what you guys think yeah. I can't have combines down. That's yeah we have. We have faith in you. Maybe a maybe when you go to this play test will play you guys as fabled a battle royale in raccoon city. Oh my gosh. What if that's it? Then they invite they invite. Am Out personally you guys. We listened to your podcast. We wanted to. We wanted you guys to get first hands on this Resin Evil Raccoon City Battle Royale to I think we just need to like aside podcast and just explain the mechanics of the game. That could be a lot of fun we could. We could do it while playing operation records at Guitar Nine. What are you talking about No I think we've talked about at that. Like on several podcast leading the second one and like we. We talk about a lot so they've had many chances to hear us out and make it so it should be done by. I expect that the happened. Now you've had red beard guy knows what good enough. What's good for them castle mature? He's zone where I'm at at all times right. We'll make sure he's yes. A hundred percent that is not a threat that is not a threat promise and now we've got we've got some some good stuff coming your way we've got some more in twos come in Tim GonNa keep playing through his his resin resident evil franchise And we might have a few things that we can't talk about yet that are in the works to so wondering what what could he be. What Iran so appreciate the support? Let us know what you guys thought of episode seventy We'll see guys and discord and we'll be back in two weeks for episodes. Why guys thanks for listening too fast be sure to subscribe to the latest episodes and follow us on twitch twitter and our other socials at four all mankind?

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The Future of California's Coast

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The Future of California's Coast

"I'm Peter Hart. Law Your concierge for culture in the bay area the big event is a podcast so local and fun and random that we've interviewed Jerry Rice and Jello Biafra affreux and recorded two episodes paying tribute to Britos download the big event today welcome to the wild. West podcast where today I'm very excited to welcome my guest Jason Scores Scores a professor of environmental studies at Middlebury Institute of International Studies Down Monterey. Jason is an economist but I think of him as basically a coastal futurist futurist. He's someone who thinks creatively about the ways that we've chosen to develop the coast and live there and so I wanted to talk to him about how our relationship to the coast is. He's going to have to change specifically in the face of climate change so we have never had a rational scientific healthy. We just relationship with the ocean. It's been one extreme to the other. All you know throw all the poor people there or kick them out and put our house up to the last inch on the cliff. Jason runs the Center for the Blue Economy which is a think tank. That's trying to figure out how we find some kind of healthy sustainable equilibrium with the ocean so that could mean changing the ways we build homes homes on the beach it could mean rethinking commercial fishing practices it could mean returning large sections of coast to nature. We talk about a lot of fun stuff in this podcast for instance. It's the idea that cities and towns on the coast need to start strategically retreating from the water's edge inland or risk massive financial losses that can mean instituting a tooting some kind of government buyout program so that homeowners can afford to relocate but we don't really know because nobody's really doing it but something that towns are going to have to start thinking about sooner rather than later so Jason and I we cover that we cover a lot more as you'll hear he's super knowledgeable which is why I love talking to them. We'll get to our conversation in just one minute but first this brief message this week on not your century. It's the best of not your century five favorite episodes featuring Rudolf Nuria Albert Albert Einstein the beach boys in the unabomber not your century. It's like history class but five minutes long and fun all right. We're back now onto my conversation with director for the Center for the Blue Economy. Jason Scores podcast Jason Great to be here. Yeah how you doing doing great so we're recording at your house. Which I'm I'M NOT GONNA give the location of it but showing up your made me wonder the last time we saw each other. I think about six years ago when I was working on a story about surfing mix and specifically research that you were working on that was going to show that the home prices in Santa Cruz are pegged directly to the proximity similar to good surf spots so we're walking around and looking at homes but you were actually at the time looking for a new house right correct in fact. I bought this house just about that. It's a little over six years old interesting and so if you wouldn't mind real quick recapping what'd you find in your research into the real estate market in Santa Cruz sure sure so what we found was a pretty strong correlation between beach homes TMZ that were near really good surf breaks and about on average about one hundred thousand dollar premium for those homes. We're pretty confident about those results again. It was the first paper to look at that is about one hundred grand to be near a nice surf break where you can walk out the door and go surfing. What interested me about the research that you did is that you found that it wasn't just being nice? It wasn't just being near a Nice beach. It was being near Surfing. Specifically Equality Surfing's specifically decline if the research had just shown like if you're near the beach hey if your house has a nice view it'll be worth more. That's pretty self explanatory but this actually looked at being near Surf break because we were you. Were looking at like pleasure point specifically. There's not really a beach there. You don't really hang out at pleasure point and so that was what I thought was was fascinating about that yeah correct so you know you have to find pretty unique conditions to do a study like this because like you said you know we're trying to tease out. Just the contribution of surfing so pleasure point was perfect because like you said it's not a beach that people hang out on and do anything you know. There is a little walkway there for walking which is nice. We want their dogs and stuff but in terms of the beach it's almost nonexistent. There's no volleyball most suntanning. There's no swimming. It's really a surf break and nothing else and then we have beaches close by that are the exact act opposite that are really big wide open nice kind of hanging out beat but no appreciable surf. You know maybe on a big day. There's a couple breaks but by and large they're pretty flat all all the time and so that was that contrast is what allowed us to do the comparison and get something meaningful statistically yeah those great so and then kind of bring me up to speed. What have you been working on in the interim here. Show are sure so most of my work has been with the Center for the Blue Economy. which when we last spoke was the only you know is really in infancy was the first couple of years and just getting going and so we've really ramped up? We've hired some research staff who started international journal. We've got you know now. A number of of cohorts of students that have kind of gone through and the two main research projects of the center are helping governments around the world kind of develop ocean economic accounting systems which is obviously a pretty Ni. Shen you know not your your typical Voltaire Economic Analysis but it's trying to look at the the contribution of ocean resources to economic health and in doing that we're also trying to define the blue economy enemy that the World Bank defines the blue economy is kind of the sustainable use of ocean and coastal resources then of course the follow up questions what is sustainable and that's what we're really trying operationalized to make it simple. We want to be at a tell governments. Tell finance ministers offshore oil unsustainable offshore win sustainable offshore fin-fish pans unsustainable offshore plant based aquaculture sustainable you know on shore natural living infrastructure for climate protection sustainable seawalls not right so we're trying to really am again and we probably will never ever get to that level of specificity across the board because you know the coastal environment you just to buried around the world but disarray general principles to really kind of carve carve out what the blue economy looks like how to measure it so that's kind of the Meta part one and then we're really doing a lot of projects on climate adaptation kind of the Economics uh-huh exit how we adapt to climate change because you know one of the big buzz words right now is climate resilience and that's kind of the new the evolution and there's some there's some strength to that term and that word probably more affirmative word but it also. I think masks a lot because we're really not going to be out to keep what we currently gently half right so Brazilians. I think kind of portrays a little bit more of status. Quo Vin is likely to occur whereas adapation I think is probably the more the accurate term of because we're going to have to move around a lot and we're gonNA have to do things very differently and so there's a lot obviously a lot of economic questions with that right when when cities and towns and states are making decisions now they're citing new road. They're putting a sewage treatment plant a new development project. These things is supposed to last fifty one hundred years and so they're they're longevity avenue entering into some pretty uncertain space in terms of climate change especially in low lying areas yeah and so we're really trying to help kind of the economics of that decision making Eric. I want to ask you about some of your work at the center but since you touched on it right then that's really what is interesting one of the things that's interesting me. These days when I'm thinking about about coastal issues in California California coast is this iconic feature of the country and the way that we people who live here have to conceive of how we occupy that space and what we do there how we develop it all has to change and that's happening at this point right now where a bunch of these coastal muscle towns are creating their thirty year plans and so I'm reading about different pieces of these and it's interesting to read just kind of how each area is dealing with this kind of on a psychological level. Almost because what everything points to is you can have you can build seawalls and jetties and all of these things that are designed to kind of shore up the coast and keep it from being eroded and keep sea level rise from affecting certain properties but really at the end of the day. It sounds like the big decision. That's GONNA have to be made for. These places is managed. Retreat is the term I keep seeing which is basically we're just going to have to start moving inland like we just can't build on the bluffs with the views anymore. We gotta move away. Have you talked to anybody like have you have you had experience with local municipalities municipalities or decision makers in these areas what are they. What are they thinking. What are they saying yeah so we we have in fact we're working with a lot of the local municipalities powder that are dealing with this exact issue and to be honest as progressive as California is this. Is One area where we are still really behind the curve. The people that the private property ethic of this is my piece and I'm not giving up under any circumstances is still very strong and people are very very stubborn and I ain't got I do say that with precisely because it stubbornness in the face of of physics and science that is you know doesn't in care whether you believe it or not and doesn't care about your feelings and there's a lot of resistance. There's city councils that are being voted out because they mention the word managed retreat in undocumented real risk aversion. Even using this language people are trying to come up with new language so it's incredibly contentious incredibly difficult nope and maybe I'll kinda. Take a Meta angle here for a second and when this is some of the stuff that I'm working on now too which is if you think about it in US history. Obviously we're relatively young country and we've never had a healthy relationship with the oceans we've had to pendulum swings so I was and most people don't realize is that in the beginning of the nation's history the poor people live at the coast rich. People thought the Coast was disgusting. Molly Allie was variable. It was all the kind of fish and seaweed and bugs and and it was kind of chaotic and so they lived up in the hills away from floods where they can look out over everything and it was the immigrants and the slaves and the poor people live on the coast and so then you know in the end of the nineteenth early twentieth century that change is a lot of reasons for that but then wealthy particularly wealthy whites got very interested in the coast and there's huge history about incredible injustice done to basically forcibly remove these people there's still communities up and down the coast that are have the scars of that from over one hundred years ago even here and Progressive Santa Cruz Monterey Chinese communities were just forcibly removed from what I hear is the Asian communities in San Jose who's in who's people will refuse to even visit Monterey and Santa Cruz because of the harsh memories of their ancestors ancestors being violently removed so then what do we do we move all the way up to the edge so once we got it. We said we want to be right at the edge and put our house right there on the dunes. Destroy Royal The wetlands destroy the marshes all that nasty stuff with the bugs and put the house right up there so that's the history of US coastal policy for hundreds of years so we have never had a rational scientific healthy just relationship with the oceans. It's been one extreme to the other all you know through for all the poor people there or kick them out and put our house up to the last inch on the cliff and so the the reason I mentioned this is because this is a big paradigm. I'm shifting right. We we really don't understand what the coasts are and we don't appreciate what we've done to them and we don't appreciate what's going to need to happen happened the the upside to this is it's a big opportunity. It's an opportunity to kind of finally do it right and if we do it right. I can envision in a pretty prosperous coastal environment going forward so it doesn't have to just be a negative but I don't think we're there yet. It's still viewed as kind of negative and costs and I'm not going to move my house because this is where my grandma lived or whatever and we haven't really evolved into that new way of thinking which is kind of part of part of the work. We're trying to do so before we get it into the new way of thinking or the things that you'd like to see what is a common rationale that you are hearing for why we shouldn't move or we shouldn't think about this or we shouldn't deal with this right now yeah so. I mean I think again I use the word stubbornness purposely because I think it's religious a stubborn insistence and that we you know we need to do whatever it takes to protect our you know our current property that you know with enough rip rap enough seawall enough reinforcements we can figure it out and you know that's what Americans do were tough or strong. We stand up. We protect what's hours so really. There aren't very many good rationale house so that is the one we hear the most. I don't think it's particularly persuasive but that's that seems to be the psychology is coming from and let me be also clear like I get it to some degree right. Nobody wants wants to be told that their property is permanently at risk and they have to move and a lot of these people have invested a lot and many of them are multigenerational so again. I'm not entirely unsympathetic to the view but it you know it's not constructive though to just insist insistence discs and while the science gets worse awesome worse so what would you like to see. What do you think we should be doing because you've talked about private homes that are on the coast but some of the areas like you're drawing lines around like schools and churches and businesses and it's not just like rich people's homes right on the bluffs. It's kind of entire pieces of infrastructure for structure for these communities that are going to have to be relocated or something is going to have to be changed. So what are you. What would you like to see going forward. How do we kind of address that yes so obviously obviously you know with the caveat here. There's no one-size-fits-all or anything like that but in terms of general principles I'd say the first thing is we should should take the opportunity for managed retreat to restore the the natural infrastructure of the coastline to this means putting back doc restoring seagrass wetlands you know some areas of the country mangroves Dune Systems and a that can can be produced a lot of really good jobs so I just want to say there's going to be a whole new industry being given birth here for ecological restoration on the coastal zones. This is just GonNa take everything from HD scientists to manual laborers to you know and then I say we want to build in some new economic opportunity in there right so you want to start thinking about new waterfront properties new kind of living will and working waterfronts new models for how people interact with the Cosa. Oh so maybe all the infrastructure and the parking lots aren't right up to the edge of the beach restore all that we move everything back but then we can put in you know really a detailed trail systems park systems and bike lanes and and make the the coastal. This new restored coastal infrastructure a a much more integrated part of the community. It's not just one little parking lot or one rich neighborhood or something like that so that that'd be one. I'd say that's probably the the first thing is restoring the coastal ecology. The second I would say is the justice aspect right is that environmental justice finally is getting thing. It's do in the sense that people realize that there's a lot of inequities and unfairness going on with the way pollution is distributed the way with environmental impacts of distributed and I think in the coastal zones we're going to see this as well and you're right to point out that it's not just rich people that live on the coast there's all kinds of public infrastructure and and middle-class homes etc and so. I think people whose homes have to be destroyed or move some levels of compensation some levels of buyouts. Maybe they get preference our friends for new land. Maybe get a bigger lot size. Maybe they get some tax breaks because that's put into some kind of conservation easement so I'd say you know more creative creative financial instruments to make it fair. Now what I say fair that doesn't mean everybody is going to be one hundred percent whole right so people's properties are most at risk are probably going to have some negative economic consequences but it doesn't have to be devastating right and I think people if we do this right and in a deliberative fashion people can come out feeling like they were treated. Well on this over. All the communities better off even if you know they you know some of their property had to Kinda be sacrificed in this transition period so you'd like to see some kind of real cohesive comprehensive coastal management plan that kind of takes all of these different interests into account absolutely yeah and again. Some communities are really starting to do this or at least having those initial conversations. I don't think there's any that have a fully fleshed out plan. That's kind of on paper but you know this were in the early stages here. Even if maybe the time time horizon isn't that long we still are just kind of getting going here and I'm confident if we can't do it in California. We're not GONNA do it anywhere so we we really have to be kind of models and leaders in this field like we are and many others yeah one thing you mentioned that I wanted ask you but I wanted to follow up on and I don't WanNa go too far down this road but I think about a year ago. California Coastal Commission approved and Environmental Justice Policy. I think is what they called it and essentially it was kind of from what I gather. It's sort of a public announcement that the coastal commission is going to start taking into account access needs for low income people the people of color people who have by large. Ben Overlooked or excluded from the coast from accessing the coast because as we know it's like it's not like they're a bunch of. She motels lining the California coast. It's big fancy hotels. It's wealthy developments and a lot of those the people the private property holders olders are doing everything they can to kind of carve out there section of the coast even though it's supposed to be open to the public and keep people out of it. I'm just curious if you can talk about that a little bit what you see as being maybe the opportunity that we have right now to open the coast in a new way yeah well the interesting thing about that that Coastal Commission mission kind of ordinance is that really this is supposed to have been part of the coastal commission's mandate for realm time right so it's almost like they were just embolic re stipulating or maybe maybe more forcefully articulating what something that's really been part of their mandate but but there's not necessarily a bad thing. I think it's I think it's a it's a good thing to point out and the coastal commission. I'll give them credit that they they really have done a lot to fight these these billionaires who block public access and they usually win right and a lot of you know you can go due to other parts of the country go up in New England where there's a lot of private beaches where you can drive a longtime without access and then you drive down California highways and it's you know every couple of miles. There's a big open public beach for free and really appreciate that. They have done a pretty good job so so overall you know. I just think there. They were probably just planting their flag a little St. They're seeing where the winds blowing that environmental justice is a big deal and just kind of rearticulating something that I think they've been reasonably adept at for for for a long time yeah. So what do you think perspective home buyers on. The coast should be thinking about right now. It's a very good question Russian so I mean you know if we're only talking California. That's one thing but I'd say there's a lot of parts of the United States. Do not buy anything yeah. I would never buy any any property in Miami. I can tell I could say hundred percent confidence. People in Florida are GONNA lose tens of billions of dollars period done another big hurricane or two. It's that market's going to collapse and there's a lot of political ramifications of that that will fall into place because you know there's a high high likelihood that to the Florida state of go bankrupt under those scenarios that but that being said you know California's a lot different the first thing I would just say is i. I don't think anyone should be right up to the edge of the water right. That's just not a sensible thing to do. If you're in twenty nine hundred building property right at the edge of the water order a ecologically. That's not a good thing to do and be even if it's well fortified and even on a cliff I think you're putting yourself a big financial risk and that's what you're talking about is erosion essentially and on the lower lying will lower lying areas sea level rise and yeah and then of course they combine right but you know a lot of the the properties that are that are most at risk are high up on cliffs you know and and but they're roading and then falling apart and again when you're you're you're recess ten feet back from the edge of the cliff. It's just a matter of time before you're going to be impacted and I obviously could not afford on my professor salary to buy in my house right on the cliff but even in that case I wouldn't have and on this property that I purchased this up on a hill and I am very far away from you know any AH eminent climate change impacts. I'm sure the next ice age or whatever all you know my ancestors. We'll we'll have to figure something out so you're worked for. The center of the Blue Economy is essentially promoting this India of the blue economy and then within that larger national framework of the green new deal and you were talking touched on that earlier but what does that actually look like like how can we sort of integrate or incorporate these principles into this broader kind of national policy framework yeah well. It's funny. You say yeah that because we're we're working. That's my main project for the next year actually so we have what's called the ocean climate action plan is our our project title and we are actually convening leaders in California in October to begin this work of really outlining priorities ladies for integrating kind of ocean coastal issues into a national framework so this work we're doing our hope is to have something by spring of next year here and we have an article. I can send you and you can link to it. If you want you know for your for your listeners on the eight principles that were starting out to look at what's everything from coastal infrastructure to disaster response to offshore renewable power to plant based aquaculture development were really far behind the rest of the world and that and that some of the most sustainable food supplies and climate resilient food supplies so it's a pretty broad comprehensive package. Our hope is to get a consensus consensus document document put together. That's pretty well fleshed out that has all the leaders of the ocean community the United States backing it or at least the majority and then to bring them to the the presidential candidates will will bring them to the trump administration to we would be great if if they took them on as well. We're we're happy for anyone to do that and and so this is a kind of a to be determined here we have. I think the basic principles of the framework. There's also some great legislation. That's already been introduced again. It's not going anywhere wearing in the Senate under McConnell but can come all the Harris. I think Ed Markey. They have a living shorelines act introduced in the Senate. So there's little pieces table we're trying to do is kind of put it all together and then in the hopes that leadership changes or the current leadership becomes enlightened that then maybe in two thousand twenty one some of this will actually come into effect yeah one of those principles or an idea get in one of those principles that I read about. I want to ask you about you mentioned natural coastal infrastructure and then living shorelines. I just wanted to ask what are those in what role they play. Yes so those in some ways are kind of synonymous here it kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier about. You know there's a lot of science showing and we've actually done some of this work as well that you know a Dune Marsh Land and reef will give better coastal protection then Dan a seawall or kind of hard and gray infrastructure and then of course it comes with all the environmental benefits as well because its habitat for creatures and fish birds and invertebrates and so the the thing. That's really impediment right now. It's not necessarily economics say oh. That must be so much more expensive. It actually attic turns out that it's not in most areas but there's just not very good understanding of it. There's not a lot there aren't engineering firms that can give you the deep specs ex- they came with a seawall and so a lot of the work here is just kind of building the scientific infrastructure so that you're a homeowner on our you're building a library or a school or something in a low lying area and you can go and say hey. I want to protect this living shoreline shoreline living infrastructure we don't WanNa do the the gray gray stuff and there be specs ready to develop with costs and maintenance and all that that they compare against the alternatives and say oh wow that's cheaper of course I'm GonNa go with that and then obviously building in some of the maybe the tourism or the other recreational opportunities around that and then that would be kind of an additional benefit. Are there any specific projects or specific towns or municipalities along the coast that you think are success. Stories case studies that you would point to areas that are doing it right essentially the case studies. I know the best are not not in California. They're more in kind of the southeast kind of Gulf coast areas in some ways it's because they've been suffered the most damage so so they're being the most proactive kind of China to solve that California nothing comes to mind of a municipality that he's really doing well yet again. I think you know Santa Cruz here. Monterey Pacific Grove also Pacific up up in San Francisco are starting to think along these lines so Dell's are probably where I would assume the first iterations of this might come from from and then I know you're a Vegan and that kind of plant based plant based lifestyle I know is kind of at the at the core of some of your thinking about these projects. JECHT's and this broader theory explain that a little bit yeah so this is. This is obviously more of a personal position. I don't you know the center. Center isn't taking any position on this but you know I think you know let let's take one of our anyone who's in ocean conservation. Let's take Sylvia Earle right. Everybody knows her listen. Sylvia Earle says she says what I what I say which is don't eat seafood that she does not believe. I believe that there is sustainable industrial seafood. She doesn't believe in and she makes deeper case if you listened to her. I really recommend listening to the Ted interview with her. That came came out a couple of months ago. She makes a pretty detailed ethical case that these sea creatures are quite sent him and individual we think of fishing it's just big huge nets millions of kind of all seemingly this identical fish wriggling around and suffocating we take him out of the water and she's Haggi. Oh you know sixty years of of diving with these creatures and being spending weeks at a time with individual fish underwater and seeing unique personalities and so she does a great job of kind of ethics that these are not just kind of the bugs of the seat right that the creatures that we were eating here are pretty sophisticated and so my my thing you know my my final point here is if you really really care about the marine environment. It's it's really hard to square that with US support for commercial fishing I just I just have to say that fortunately on affirmative note there are people. There's a couple of companies that I'd like to mention to this ocean hugger foods. There's good catch foods. There's a finless fish which which is a new company that doesn't have any products yet but it was building developing cell based so we actually be real fish but just grown cell base not in a not not fish in the sea and and then of course you have the impossible. Burger on the beyond Burger and you got a million products out there so you can kind of have your cake and eat it too. You don't think we you know ten billion people on the planet. I just don't think we can eat wild seafood at the rates. Were we're eating it and and have anything left and it gets US math. You know it's just the math so just a recap. Don't eat fish. Don't live by the ocean. Don't get used to the status of having these these places first of all. I'll I'm GonNa reframe that in a positive way right right right right yeah yeah so the first thing I want to say I'm not on these are recommendations. Everyone is free to do as they please. It's it's just you know this is my scientific opinion here but in terms of absolutely live near the ocean but just not right on top of the right so. I live a mile l. away from the ocean. I think that probably most places in the US. You know a mile in you know you can take a nice walk stroll down to the beach. I can still hear the waves crashing in the winter winter so you can live near the beach just not on the beach right and then in terms of what not to eat. I really do want reframe that which is I think people should experiment with and start exploring plant based alternatives or some of the cell based alternatives when they come out like like the finless fish. Try some of you know those products and I think if as you find products you like then you will naturally reduce consumption Russian. I'm really I write. I like the affirmative framing much more than telling people what not to do because that's what veganism and plant based is had been always. That's been the kind of Achilles is healed. It's a kind of a a deprivation. You're telling me what not to do and these days again. You can have your cake and eat it too. Go to go to whole foods or any kind of sore. Look at all the millions of plant based milks ice creams and sausages and Burgers and good catch has plant based crabcakes and all kinds of filet fillet kind of products that tastes amazing and you put a little tartar sauce on that you know have a couple beers and to be honest. You're not really going to miss the crabcakes. You're not gonNA miss the Calamar so so we're really lucky that we live in a technological age and an age of abundance whereas Americans you know we can kind of have it all and so I really I don't WanNa leave on kind of a deprivation. That's way better not all right cool. Thanks very much for the time. Jason is talking. It was my pleasure thanks very much again. Jason for making time to come on the podcast for more information on his work check out the center for the Blue Connie at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies you can find them online at Middlebury Dot Edu. 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Episode 200: Hold Off on the Soup feat. Dril & Derek

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Episode 200: Hold Off on the Soup feat. Dril & Derek

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I mean how many people are streaming share. Yeah cosby notify. aww Say this if you do watch fat Albert Two thousand four get it from Pirate Bay or something. Yeah pirate the movie. Yeah okay so the like Well basically it's so it's kind of It's sort of like burst pleasantville. It's predicated on the idea that like this little girl this like twelve year old girl. She's in high school. Why is this high? School girl is is no yeah high school girl every day after school she goes home and she watches fat Albert. Fat Airing Airing on TV on. Who knows what channel? Yes truly where she watching fat Albert on TV. So she's she's she's every day she comes home. This high school student. She comes home from school after a long day. Keep going to cast pictures secures. I'm GONNA say yes. And she watches. She watches her favorite. TV Show and one day and one day they. They said she's sad she doesn't she's she's sad well. She said because she's like she doesn't have any friends at school. She doesn't have any friends is at school since the beginning of the movie. I don't have any friends. Say Sad that she doesn't have any friends at school and Fat Albert and his friends here her through the television vision. Oh Wow so they here. They're just here. Every person watching Pat Fat Albert impressive the Seventy S. They've been stuck in this fucking like purgatory forty years. They live at a thing about fat Albert but they live in the junk yard or something something they live in a junk junk yard for forty years and then they hear her in these young rats they jump out of the TV yes into real life. They're all oh like freaks just happens like right at the beginning of movie. Yes which leads me to believe too that like they were waiting for somebody to express interest in hanging out with them. It was like man. I wish I could meet fat. Albert in once in in the many years of fat Albert being on TV was at. were any of the kids. Like Man I wish my favorite cartoon characters were real. Yeah they they waited until two thousand four. They waited until after nine eleven. Evan well this kind of like some more like later on the new movie that explored. Well hold on that. That's like the twist that's the biggest. I'm not going to overview. Oh actually yes right on. Oh don't you don't WanNA order. I know you gotTA gotTa build up to it. Even though there's no fucking story yes so fat Albert. Yeah like they here they hear this little girl. I guess Kyla Pratt. She's he's in high school they hear her she's like I don't have friends and fat. Albert's like her could be your friend and ally for the movie. He like like comes out of the TV like he region. I don't doubt it is his name Mash mouth. Yeah Mush Mouth Marshmallow. Much Talk Guy Talk. Yeah like half of them are like You know have some sort of like deformity right. But then one of them. His whole thing is just that he's a tall guy. Yeah Yeah Eh back then that was a deformity. Now they're Chad's but back then they were here he comes back in two thousand four back back in the seventies yeah so they come out of the TV and she's like. I don't know what to do with these. The Fat Albert became real will and grace. Now I think the school with me. Yeah no houses. And they're all in my my house and also like on the show like on Fat Albert the TV show. I guess like what this show is now missing the missing the characters but continues to air on. TV It's like a WHO was. It's like the very small child is left alone in the junkyard. Relentlessly by the villains of of the FAT FAT Albert. TV show. That's so everybody watching fat Albert at home in this universe a new thirty minutes. It's a flag just watching this child. Get torment child's being tormented every day fat Albert really turned yeah. I don't remember this at all and thirty minutes of getting bullied a lot every episode. He's begging he's backing. Please come home home please. I need please come home. And so he's like yes. This boy is getting bullied in the TV TV. Meanwhile the girl meanwhile hanks fat Albert Albert and all his friends to the schools school and they meet. She has like a sister or stepsister. Yeah I don't understand it. So was she. Fat Albert is immediately in love with her sister. High School this school. He's forty forty years old older. Really if you yeah fifty seven or something. Yeah he's like I mean from cosby. Did right South America Eric or something. It seems like she might be adopted in the movie but they don't really talk about it now. I think I think she's just like no. I'm serious accident accent sister. I think so. I don't think so. That doesn't sound right. Just highs do edit out my race. They slept in the same room. That's all you need to know their sisters. They're real sisters so yeah so fat. Albert matters wants to fuck the system and he wants to fuck the sister. He's so they go to school with the girl and immediately like all the teachers are like all right. I guess like I have eight students in my. I guess I'll just fine Okay this guy. Fat Albert Students. Yeah he has a you know his friend. Mush mouth offers His whole thing is that he does it he. He can't sorry I almost don't even want it to. Yeah Yeah it feels offensive. Even though it's not like that's right it's not language not av e that he's doing he's doing evie. Let's be clear. Yeah let's be clear this guy that wears the Nokia's well of course that's what we're talking about. It's like what it's GonNa make sense. He wears a hat. That's far too big for him with two holes cut out for his house. It makes sense in the cartoon a tune but they do like a literal version. It looks like in the movie. Yeah because he can't take his mask well he's like afraid to take his mask not mask his hat off because he doesn't know what's underneath breath in the real world also by the way. Yeah you've mentioned a house. We hates famously. Hated AV pants and pull up your pants yeah. He's he wanted to voice. Ah pull up their pants not really though rapes fine. There's there's like a villain at the school. There's a guy that also wants to fuck the girls ages fat Albert to array race in Fat Albert. Beats Him in the race fast fast beats him really he beats him and that was like that's kind of like the. I think the first moment of the school where you're like okay. Like damn like fat Albert is is from the cartoon world with a girl by the way if he's like lonely and stuff and she's like all have is this cartoon. I wish I could hang out with these seem nice and the move number wise like we're all going to like Essa that's where we WANNA do. Fat Albert and the whole gang runs a train on the media to meet you about by the West so all remember Labor cartoon characters become real Fokker sister. Yeah but but fat. Albert's like a cartoon so he can't feel pain ultimate athlete and so it'd be a marvel. Yes but they mentioned that he said something in the movie. They're like oh but we can't take our clothes off because we don't they're like attached to our bodies underneath but then they do but at first they don't have genitals so this is how it's reverse reverse pleasantville thing because they come to the real world and they get more real they grow Dick and balls calls the whole kit down. There was not with you guys when you watch this movie. I've not seen it so I can't tell if you're joking has like they grow penises. No that's wrong because they struggle with sexual desire and they don't understand it they don't understand the lust in their loins. Yeah yeah but it's happening. Okay another weird thing that happens is over the course of the movie. They get wider remarks. Meeting there's taste taste start fading. I realize we're not built for this world we're GONNA disappear and also there's the DVD TVD store for some reason there's a massive poster advertising fat Albert on Dvd a massive poster. That's like fat Albert the complete series on DVD and at no point. Is anyone at school like those guys from. It's a common. Everybody immediately is like I mean they're not immediately welcoming of fat Albert But ed no point do they question everyone is welcoming the one guy that also wants to fuck the sister. Yes just like underground like nobody's ever. I heard of it. You know and east or seems to hipster that rule. Yeah and so. Eventually there's a block party and the school bully. He's like Nick. He's like he gets on a Mike at the school at the he liked tries to our fat Albert Right. You're so fat. Yeah he's like fat. Albert is so fat. And everybody's like Oh he's like why don't you get up here and spit some bars. Ars in Fat Albert comes up and then everybody loves his song. They're all they're all dancing around. was the bully the special celebrity cameo. Oh others Aaron Carter. I assume Aaron Carter's like fat. Albert's classmate and he's he's he's the guy that's like. Wow these guys are weird. But he's Kinda cool looking on the IMDB and Aaron Carter's here and Carter's this character doesn't do any no none of the characters do anything. Yes nothing happens in the movie. There's there's like no conflict until like the last fifteen minutes and and that's like surprise conflict dying because they're not in the teeth and so eventually like they they they're like sort of coming to terms arms with like. Oh like fuck like I'm GONNA I'm GonNa die if I stay in the real world like I. My only place is fat. Is the FAT Albert Universe. It's fat Albert goes to Bill Cosby's house. Bill cosby played by himself. He like shows up at Bill Cosby's house and he knocks at the door. Bill cosby opens the door and he faints and then like he's like Oh Awali he's real the hell doesn't just assume this is some deranged cost player. Real man coming to visit him lake. Ah Yeah there's a guy address like fat Albert really dislike the real fat Albert is Goddamn like Albert became real and he's out my house. My shows up in this house in stand and he. Then that's when we find out that this girl is actually bill cosby's granddaughter. He says yeah that's why you could come out of the TV or something like that. Yeah because you're related to that girl. So she means something to you or she was like Fr- right he was friends with your grandfather was friends. But that's kind of like her grandfather. Whom Fat Albert was basis basis? So he wants to fuck his granddaughter. Sister that's like that's lovecraft the end. That's like a horror jokes in this movie. That's kind of horrifying a writer. I mean there Show up your family. Yes eventually they they make it they make it back into the TV right. They say they're goodbye like He. He makes peace with Bill Cosby and she hugs fat Albert. The girl and she says I remember I know why you're so familiar to me now. Yes you're my GRANDPA. It's because you were based off my grandpa and he says she's like I love you. Fat Albert Yeah. Yeah and then you for being my friend days with like thank you for my grandpa the of the real fat Albert. Yeah he knows. The girl was sad because her GRANDPA who was fat. Albert's like soul. Oh Yes had died before the movie started. This wasn't really explained that the movie until area and at the very end you see a grave. That's like fat Albert the Albert Johnson or whatever and then it's a shot of like every all of his friends who were the other Based off of guys they're all close to death but fat Albert is I because I okay. Yeah the movie ends with the real death of fat Albert and like his gravestone so was fat actually related. You did and how is bill was Bill Cosby is supposed to be the real fat Albert. No Bill Cosby's all of the other guys Saito friend. Yeah Okay House be. Yeah now bill because he never fat Albert was like a spirit cartoon is a manifestation of Bill Cosby. Yeah Fat Albert is a Topa. Did you see that video of him. Walking out of court no. It's video of him walking out he was like walking out of court. And like you know there's a bunch of like you know reporters and photographers whatever. And he just goes her uh-huh lately the last endorphin rush of his entire life saying. Hey Hey hey outside of that courtroom dude I. I'll I'll never forget. The one of the weirdest moments in my life was I was sent on of really is doing a really bad video job early out of my career. You know where I was just like trying to make some money and I was in freaking Alabama weird part of Alabama in a holiday inn or something like for one day and just straight up the whole time just like do where the fuck am I what am I doing. I was finally able to leave in flight was at like six. AM So I was up at three thirty in the morning. Trying to check out of the hotel and get my receipt and there's a person taking a long time in front of me he turns around. It's fucking Bill Cosby. Aw He's Super Bowl really. Yeah like not that long ago and it was just like in town for a Gig. He's in jail now so I don't know what he was doing in Alabama probably had a Gig he he did he booked playing a lot. Yeah but it was like such a you know I didn't. There was one person I saw that I recognized at all and it was bill cosby. Yeah in that lobby at like an unholy our literally three thirty in the morning shake his hand and say hey Mr Cosby huge fan fan. A uh-huh oh yeah. I heard a somebody told me a story about bill cosby like having like these. This like young actress over for dinner and like it was. She brought her friend like this like nineteen year old actress. Yeah and like. She had dinner dinner with like she had dinner with Bill Cosby and Like I guess like they. I don't know how he like found out about it or whatever. But she's like at dinner at his at his house and It's just him in like these two girls and the like chef or whatever which by the way whoever the fucking chef is should probably get indicted to diet to me. That's like I just realized that he was he mixing the drug. It's all so I. Well that's how the he fucking drug these foods and drinks. It was with drinks and so it was well. This is it was him. He was mainly chicken pot pies with roofing literally. I don't know if that's true. No literally like he He was like with Oh they they were about to yes. This is crazy so like they're sitting down and and she's like Oh you you like you know my dad and he like bill cosby was like Like Oh what ah like. Oh what now like I thought you were just some like you know just some like nineteen year old girl. And she's like she's like Oh you know my you know my dad hat and he was like it was like kind of like startled by this information and they were like talking about him for for a little bit and then he like turn turned to chef and was like hold off on the soup. Ovalles I don't not really a funny story. No there's your right they should indict this shows. You joke about how the chef was poisoning. The Shit Yeah story was just that it is that the shaft should be in jail. Bill Cosby's chef should also be jail. Yeah is that fucked. He's up he's giving them like. Yeah rape soup dude crazy. That's the case. Like you would think I know. I hope I hope we don't have more information than the FBI. Whoever is conducted the because I don't think this is like That's like not a story people now. I mean there's a clip from the cosby show probably the viral by now where he's just like at a barbecue and he's you know saying thank God. I put that love potion soup dare and we're GONNA make love to nine. My wife and everyone is like getting sleepy on the show. It's just like are you joking. No I'm not joking real. He has like that whole standard bit about Spanish fly leaky. That was like a big those. I was like clip that he was doing this for decades. Yeah it was a long running. Yeah I always say like a whole Santa bit about Spanish fly like man. There's a drug that will make women go to sleep. You can just fuck like why are we. Why are we all you know where where we all fucking these women so much? No I mean I think he was where that's just not. There were a punchline. Because he's you know I mean. This man was telling people villa. pull up their pants and doing this. I know this man just discovered the economic code for sex. He was really really good at Connie. My God But yeah he's a crazy story. Yeah it's so often the soup hold off on the seat. How much do you think that telephone game to you or is it pretty direct? It's via it. was I say who it was from. A very like the source is a very big person. Big Source Yeah Bill Cosby. I mean we got I guess bill from stories that later I mean we've had classic one that might be confirmed harder later. Yeah about somebody S in their own D. That's that's that's one one. That's a fun one. Yeah but that's that's yeah that's insane. Also I mean just to circle back to the FAT Albert Movie. It seems like they committed. I feel like they didn't Think that this movie is sell that hard so they on the DVD cover at least the the pages peeling back and it's bill cosby and it's like from the mind if bill cosby the amount of the poster well because that was that was bill cosby had was clouded was was very valuable like literally really like bill cosby himself for years. I was like yeah. That's one of the best show in every decade. He had he had kids say the darndest things. Fat Albert Albert in Little Bill Little Bill. Yeah Matthew Revisit Little Bill to yeah. There's Louis the bill drugs as parents. Jesus I find that you have pulled out ever know them anyway. How do we put a positive spin on that? I don't know what he I mean. It'd be dead in two years. You know yeah it would be crazy to go jail that old. Yeah Yeah should've gone in like jared age if I have Bill Cosby came into the prison prison. Where I was at A? He'd be the guy beat up going to impress everybody by beating up on eight. Yeah your weekend we get YTM ND guys at all dog. Yeah I remember like in in six in like middle school like eighth grade ninth grade. I remember loving Cosby bebop down. YTM Andy Dot Com. It was the cosby. It was the cowboy bebop Song Song but like the Bill Cosby Zubay Bob. Yeah you remember this yeah. Of course I remember like on Toon Zone which we've talked about at length before. Yeah this one Erdos. It's not even the bill cosby clips from like the simpsons. Family guy a breath. Yeah I love this early some classics. I remember the guy. Hi who made that. Who made that I remember? He was a he posted on toon zone dot net. Oh my God most likely just some kid lying to you know it definitely definitely was made that. I don't think that was like it was definitely him lemming. I was but I remember like like dealing with him like like that. Felt like I was like damn I'm like talking royalty that was at the first celebrity You ever hobnobbed up to. Yeah that was you know. Yes name my first You know my my My my first brush with clout. You're like how do I get bigger on. YTM Yeah Really Yeah Uh. TMD why was I loved it. It was so funny to me. Most of it didn't age super well. No that was around. The era of hamster dance not it was a lot. Yeah like you know. A lot of it was just a web page. Jagai stole my bike so a lot of guys still your the Guy Stole my bike. Oh Yeah Yeah. I don't remember those old. Remember the ones that are still today so the reason the ones about guys stealing your bike. Some couldn't tell you sound familiar just never I had a bike. Yeah the ones about it. Just you know some guy. Stealing your bag sucks talk if that happens. Yeah yeah yeah well none of us know. Yeah Yeah I forgot remember. Remember Mr Skin Dude. Of course I remember Mister Skin. Do I was like aimed at the listeners did you yeah. Do you guys know about the listeners. The people know what Mr Skin is. I it's your skin was in in Lake Fuck in movie. 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Isn't Chen Dan Rutz Celeb- well this is like the news for nervous loved. It's like but it's like softcore perverts. Caesar really interestingly cities literally guys like jacking backing off to scenes from our rated movies entry level. When you were like yes when you were young that was like the only thing you could imagine jerking often? Yeah Titanic just straight up like titanic. Yeah just seeing a tasteful nude scene in that movie that was a big Yes thank you very formative thing for people that weirdly not not for me. What was yours Bouza? I'm surprised we have. We've talked about this but I forget my first ever nude body. The first movie came out. Yeah I don't like I. Yeah I was. I was too young for that. I had no interest my for the first dishonest email forum naked tits or mail or mail. Whatever nude adult you saw I I yeah I just tell a story about getting molest two hundred? Two hundred episode molestation reveal special. This is this is the molestation episode. 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Yeah you of all people I know because I've flakes talked about a lot of like horny history stuff. I mean honestly I don't know if it was even in a Even movie I think it might have literally been like probably like your mom. I haven't seen my mom. Sits Hits University. MOM's baby you're remember. Do you remember your mom. Sits client of yeah. He needed. Describe them to me. There were like pretty red. I think they're pretty right. Reddish lake the writer shade of Pink. Yeah like the brighter sheet of brands. Get a little to work out like what kind of but like what size are they suck. They were really bad. Please don't think about really gross. How how gross? You're still dodging goes. What's that first time seeing a nude body in cinema or anywhere I like I literally don't remember I think warned? But that's event that early like memory. Yeah I think it was literally like I think I accidentally saw a I think I accidentally saw porn internet or something. 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And I'm it might have just been like a company like literally like a warehouse for some company but for us it was like do. We found an abandoned barn and we have break in there every day and like steel machetes and then just go like what we did this for months before the the time we were like kids so we like to. Who would leave this like barn locked but in a way that we could still? We're definitely just. I think we're stealing from a company any but we had a ton of is like crazy stuff. There was never any incidents I think there was eventually like somebody came in like yelled at us. Oh but I I just mean like you're just found can weapons cache. We got injured at one point because we got in a fight with like tape rolls or something like throwing duct tape rolls the other throwing duct tape rolls at each other. Yeah I mean that's pretty mild when you talk about like they're heavy we'll could have happened with the fucking machetes. We weren't Michetti fighting chopping stuff. 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I'm finished with the word fucking did at something and I was just like I remember like talking to my friend being like yeah man like instead of vocabulary say vocab where you're trying to get started on this we're trying to you're trying to make it amazed like Oh man this is going to catch up but yeah I guess yeah I mean Jesus Christ young influence influence or vocab popular We were you Mr Hans got all we mean Mr Hans Guy. Nobody's really Mr Hands Guy. I mean he's been video. Mister is the mister hands. You know he died. I I know there's a whole documentary. Yeah Yeah I've never watched the documentary and the audience. Won't you explain what this is. Oh for the listeners. At home I mean ah or the hands monster. What makes you think most the new about Mr Hans? Everybody knows about Mr Hans fairly talking about bigger than Iran. Komo like everybody knows about these shifts like like Indonesia you they don't know about it handles international. Yeah definitely yes thank you miss. 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It's the leash as a good standard episode two hundred. Yeah yeah waited. What the fuck is wrong with people thinking again? That's a shock so that's nothing shocking about it. There's literally nothing shocking. Tub Girl. Tub Girl is kind of shocking. Yeah did you in shitting and into her face or something yeah virus and so long sitting in a tub and she's shitting on in her face. Yeah Girl Yeah Yeah. She liked wearing a mask or face. Yeah that was like people would talk of people would pull up. Tub Girl meets spend was the huge on might spin and was it's like. What was the song you spin me? Right baby yeah yeah and it was literally just a cock. Spinning libraries. Computers in my school always had that meets been going always been was was it literally just counted. How many spins counter that said how many spins watched and how many did his dick actually like spin physically spend? Yeah well yeah because he was getting fucked just flopping everywhere and we'd see he's getting it was a flash video yeah loop Sousa loop of a man getting fucked in the ass reverse. He's writing and his Dick is spinning spinning. So we're ready to say that one's also good. But he's digging spitting in a way that is. Is it like perfect circle. We can pull it back. Doc meet spin off and pull it up on my phone but still live dude. I Lake you being pussy. Let me see meet spin whereas I don't know if the original domain still it's not they might have let's go to the archive get taken over. Yeah I'm looking at it right now. This is nothing. Oh you got on this is this is a live live on it. They probably retired. Spin is not. What if somebody might be a millionaire off of meat spent oh absolutely like the fad revenue made? Meet spin is like do this is so I thought when I heard what meets been was is I thought like like when I heard about it like in high school. I thought that it was like literally like it's crazy. You haven't seen it. I thought it was like a deformed cock like spin the ball Sousse spinning also and stuff spin gets. I thought it was like some guys like fucked up. We're like nick. I thought it was like a deformed Dick Spinning it's literally just the Guy Getting fucked in the ass and it's like you barely see. You don't actually worse gifts than that on my timeline. In every day I think in my opinion. What's that all Dick's or deformed in my damn yes? Dot Com is worth twenty thousand dollars. Is this website. Says Damn if you wanted to buy it. How much twenty thousand? Apparently I could easily. Yeah he's fucking Mr Munoz get a a new car or like. Yeah that's all I can afford really. Yeah I mean it's been rocks so so clean so nice it's very i. I don't know there's something like are there any other shock sites you haven't seen yet. I mean the genuinely Lee shocking ones have just avoided. I never watched two girls one cup own really seen any of them. What's I know? Never saw any shock sites no none of the genuinely shocking ones. Because they didn't need to I didn't want to I. I knew about them. US knew about him. Your notes about Yeah two girls one cup came like after I was into seeing being the shirt so I never actually saw girls eating. poop there Yeah they shit into each other's mouths and they make the shit is in each other so you know what it is shit into the cutting everybody knew lake. It was a massive moment in the Zeitgeist. Yeah they just culturally speaking like Irish number like the shakers. Yeah Yeah I mean in like Middle School. I remember like I used to watch best week. Ever Two Girls One Cup on about my act was like a UH Michael Ian Black Hugh. That's actually Common Mistake he was not on best week ever he was in the. I love the blank series series. Okay but best week ever. I remember that was like it was like flavor flav well. It was same era. No best week ever was lake. AAC Doug Benson Paul Tompkins John Mullany. We're Nick Kroll. They should they should bring that back they did. And and then people didn't like it. Oh Yeah I was being facetious. They shouldn't bring no. I would if they brought it back and they let you be on it. I mean wow what a good gig. Yeah Yeah that's my that's my that's an ultimately just my that's my fucking easy gig like three jokes like Whoa. Oh yeah that guy was being weird. Yeah you just have to say it in a way that they WANNA use. Yeah Yeah I would not want that in my mouth the perfect I hate it. Yeah your poop is Damn poop will make the sex ness. Uh that was. That was the Man Did you ever read that like rappers on anal sex thing. No they started this. We started early two thousand three double. Xl they surveyed surveyed every every like the US bureau ray surveyed like every big rapper at the time and ask them how they felt about anal sex. I forget who it was. I think might have been nate. Dogg but he had said YUCK POOP who makes the sex nasty I mean yeah I mean little Wayne had had a great quote where he he said vis-a-vis sexy said he said Birdman told me that anal sex is only for your main grow. Let's just say I've had a lot of girls have had a a lot of girls thus far that's awesome pretty good time waiting folks a lot of women in that respect. Yeah you know I I've Yeah I haven't I haven't done that you haven't had a main girl I haven't I haven't had a main girl I mean. Yeah I don't know I man or do you think you're ever going to get pegged and your life. No me neither. I doubt it. I doubt it. I don't wait until everyone else answered. Yeah I hate it now. I I wouldn't do it I don't know about getting maybe A. There's a lot of things on my to do list of things to do in life. It's not like I'm even necessarily against it. It's just so low on the ranks Portland. I've never been to Portland. We haven't been to Portland yet. I'll do that at lead before the same amount of difficulty you got or you go to Portland you get pegged or you bungee jump play. I mean bungee jumping towns way better. I've never even that either I. Oh maybe here's here's what you gotTa do Jack is maybe you're you're afraid of being pegged. I wouldn't say I'm afraid of you. WanNa do your friends do. It was the subtext of if it were happening to you. But you didn't want it. Yes that was just. It's like this is the subject that you WanNa get pegged. We all WANNA get pegged. The Anus is sort of the center of pleasure for men. There's IT unlocks a new level of pleasure that we haven't experienced yet. You're like the Jordan Peterson of anal. But here's what I'm thinking. Maybe maybe I agree thing about the assholes that it's the one thing that men and women both have. Yes yeah. That's that is our universal reversal truth and it is a great equalizer and so this is sort of something I was thinking about. Maybe he's and so maybe right so you want it. You're thinking about like. Oh maybe I should get pegged but you haven't been pegues right so maybe what you do you it kind of. Just start yourself off easy. Your girl wears a strap on and then you just suck it. Oh yeah well if you just jammed uh-huh yeah more of it easier way you touch your strap on your like your so hard baby. Jacking backing off a plastic second on plastic for a little bit. And then and that. And then that up silicone technically warmed up for having a fake Dick in your asshole. Well they say it was like the asshole the face. Yep because it's the one hole that men and women both have down. Yeah yes yes and stuff like that. Yeah yeah that's true them. Yeah I love it I mean I got a man we've talked about. The we've talked about the flashlight. Move Right it. You know if you're like a true if you're just like a true feminists that does like loves eating eating pussy right you just like you buy a flashlight just like go down to it I scream yeah yeah just be like Oh man like I'm just I'm just getting in reps apprentices. Yeah this is what this is. This is a good move if you're if you're like a long distance relationship is you you like like your girl. Let's say you're in La. Yeah you're on Cam Yeah You well. You don't even have to be on facetime with her. You can just kinda like send her videos like you guys are sexists teller. I think this is a good move is like your your girl. You're in a long distance relationship right. You're like like censor like a hot sends you like hot photo. Her like topless or whatever and then you send her videos going down like going crazy on a flash absolutely yeah wild Do take notes. Yeah Oh aw. They have the limbless rights. Just they have the lip flashlights to. Oh Oh yeah if you like kiss if the ones that are shaped like feet but have a policy in the middle of Oh yes yeah they have. Yeah Yeah Oh they got it. Feel like. That's some shit where it's like. That's not. Even like speculative speculative that's like fantasy league. Yeah yeah they're going to all kinds of new body parts. Crafty sex lovecraft in. Yeah you guys smart. Yeah I know him yeah. He loved the record. Ten P lovecraft Dude Harry Potter lovecraft. Yeah I know about dogs name. What cat wasn't it didn't like just right up the N.? Word it was in. He's in word man. Was It really a known racist. His CA was a black cat. Yeah I mean that's why you know that explains Lanes He he didn't give it to a CALICO. There's a reason that I don't agree with is is a reason behind the mad. He named his CAL. HP lovecraft there's a reason he's like the joker they just named it added inward man. Yeah my most twisted idea yet. Just them do Anyway okay so we we we took. We took a break. Sadly we got you know just took like beverage break for a second but we were kind of discussing the you know. I've got this wording this on a Sunday night right before my show and maybe you know maybe we adapt the flashlight bit to the stage tonight but like a theatrical play lake theatrical but may maybe maybe we go prop sil- yeah. Yeah maybe I buy. We still have enough time. It's it's only about five thirty. Got Those three hours I target and get your flesh. You and I had like ten. Open Tanno an open flashlights. I mean I I think I talked about this on. Say Not on the pod once there is some there is some comedy festival in Austin. Where like a a flashlight was one of the sponsors and so like every comedian on the festival got a free flashlight but then because of that like there were fifteen comedians at once like fifteen like prominent comedians? That all had like a like congruent flashlight. Bit All of them had like a bit about like. Yeah so I did a comedy festival where they gave me a free flashlights. All of them were like all doing this bit at one. And then it's you know and then that's drama this drama in the community. They never they never where they were making out with the flesh line. I I know exactly where. Where's the innovation and? Yeah where's the this. This is why podcasts are great. Because you can birth new who I d a wild west free form freedom movements. Yeah I mean now you're GONNA go. You're going to the new philosophy. He didn't make a Sunday. You need to get ice cream and whipped cream and like yes. Awesome needed out the flashlight on stage. Oh yeah do that kind of subversive gross body Freddie highmore code. Yeah so that's that's just me girls love it. When you eat a young girls girl comics love like eating Gro- shit onstage? Age appropriate that from them right and they'll play go go Sarah squirm style. You know there you go. Yeah and the Yeah Be Nath ask just be messy flashlight. Subversive guess what ladies men can be nasty to it was yeah. We're not just these pretty angels. That House show up at our best dress you know. Oh boy all right well you wanna like eat or something. That's a good amount. I feel I'm what else episode right now. Yeah Yeah you know we just say goodbye we can. Just I mean Dan you got any folks no true my shit I already. Yeah Yeah plug trees. I mean they can watch it. If you live in San Francisco please come to. SF Sketch. I on the twenty fourth and the twenty fifth. Okay January twenty fourth. I'm GONNA BE DOING STANDUP at Swedish American Hall in January Twenty Fifth. We're going to be doing doing a live pod at Gateway Theatre Journal is going to be there for both those and more more guests So come out. January twenty fourth and twenty. Fifth at sketch fest. I think that's that's all plug west And Watch TRUTH POINT DOT com. We're GONNA have a soda about Disney Disney really. y'All love Disney. Get to the bottom of it. 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This Is the Chair

Ghostwood: The Twin Peaks Podcast

1:42:07 hr | 7 months ago

This Is the Chair

"The channel Hello again everyone. Welcome back to ghost with the twin peaks podcast. Did you miss us. I missed US happy. Twenty twenty everybody happy New Year. Happy new ghost would episode and Happy rest of your life. I guess so I'm one of your co host. Charles skaggs back in Ghost would once again ray talk some more. Twin peaks wasn't quite the twin peaks. We were planning on talking about but things change. Life happens when you're busy busy making other plans and of course I'm here with my wonderful co-host who's making me laugh. which is always a good thing? Zan Spouse how you doing. Hey Hey Charles. It's it's Taboo San. Hello I three. It's my first impression. You like it it yeah. It's pretty good actually. It's all I've done on youtube and we'll sit and how freedom how. How freaked out? Were you to find out that moaning Myrtle from Harry Potter. Is this baboo frick isn't she. Great Chilean's amazing. She is great. Yeah I was. I was pretty thrown by that so yeah a lot has happened is a month. We've been off Doing the whole Christmas New Year holiday thing lifespan busy yours. Truly of course has been down with bronchitis. Let's because I can never get rid of the stupid bronchitis and You know all that Jazz. So but Good thing is hey zan got a really cool Christmas gift sure dead. Which of course was twenty emptied? A there you go. And he's got a really good a number two for what one thousand something. Yeah Yeah it was pretty like the top five percent I think yeah it was pretty good. Yeah no it was more Charles. It was more like a incen- uncourteous attacks for Christmas when it gets here rapid so yeah it was it was it was more like I. 'cause I I knew what I don't know if it was on a good deal or what the points and I knew I had points or something but I'm like screw it. Let's just do this and I'm yeah by me this for Christmas. So just sending the link is like this is what I wanted because I knew what he wanted. And so I'd I'd I'd gotten him what he wanted. I'm like just by this and and then just wrap it for me please. That'd be great. And then he was at target any found season nineteen the simpsons the simpsons started putting out on DVD again. So he calls me. He's like we have this. I said No. He's like okay. Great I'm like yeah By that for me for Christmas and just wrap it up later excites kind of knew everything I was kidding. That's nice did he did surprise me. He went out one day and got the complete each. DVD set of adventure. Time Nice. So yeah which is very cool so it's not like I didn't really have the season sets but now I have the box set with all the extra extra stuff and it's it takes this much space instead of this space which you can now use toward the big twin peaks from from the as set which is ridiculously big. And we'll talk about that big and we were GonNa talk about that tonight but not like everybody has podcast. Kathleen needed to know that Charles. I don't know why you always tell her secrets. I'm a very transparent person in case you haven't noticed that's very true but in the past couple of weeks so you've just been super busy with stuff. Yeah and so. We're having all the way through it. There's a lot to get through. Yeah we'll do it for next. We'll do it next time. Yeah so I'm going to try because we're good today's episode nine so it'll be episode ten years after that so we'll pick up after Ted so it'll it'll work out well after ten. Maybe we'll try again. Yeah what kind of we feel a little weird. And maybe it's just the whole anal retentive thing about breaking on nine as opposed to an even number but yeah I know on so strange better back up on ten but sadly yours truly did not get that for Christmas. What exactly I was the? That was the big prices right. Fail for for me to do this for me. Yeah Yeah still one of my favorites on the facts. It's just it's just so even if even if some sort of alien life a forum came down to this planet right and heard that sound they would think oh somebody lost something went wrong and and that would be me in this case though. Yeah yeah unfortunately even though it was the only the number one thing I put on my Christmas list this year from C. Today but So that's okay. I'd apted. I went ahead and took care of it myself. I bought my own damn from ZD sets. Let's cast you did this. Works exactly so I stepped up. Plunked down my ridiculous amount of money because that things things were more money than we should have done but we were going to do it exactly because hey you know we're GonNa talk about it for the podcast right. We don't see it off. This should be a business expense. If like getting we should be getting paid for this so that we could write it off as a business expense. I Know Seriously Rob Your your media group Patriot on technically. You're paying us out here. You're officially unnoticed. Rub Southgate just one dollar a month people title and then we can say we're paid for this and then we can write these box. That's off there. You go to a solid come on. It was pretty cool to be able to write twin peaks off on your your tax. Oh my God you me and Kyle mclachlan amazing. Speaking speaking of which. I don't want to interrupt you because I know you're getting ready to roll no but Speaking of Comic Lachlan I have a surprise for you something. I picked up at our friendly neighborhood comic book store which we have to friendly neighborhood. But that's true story. Mind from the neighborhood. Democrats your friendly neighborhood so so that'd be laughing ogre. It's my side of town exactly so so background is not my store to Charles. That's Charles part of town. Yeah but it's kind of weird because the Zamboni is close to the older than I do but I go to the ogre pack rat every so often kinda like no. It's kind of like my number two store if like something sold out the ogre or if there's just something that I didn't order like Ooh I need to get this I will go over over there and get it if you want toys or hammer. Yeah they're really good with definitely. Yeah they they've and it's just a question of like which store has which stuff so exactly but the ogre has been here for twenty four four years twenty hasn't been here twenty five years yet. Probably I can't remember probably. Yeah it's close. It's close so I've been in here. I've been back in Columbus. Let's see since ninety seven so that's three years. Yeah going on so so yeah I'd say that's pretty Pretty up there so anyway so I was at the ogre and picked up something. David Lynch related at the Ogre Signs. Check this out going on here. Long live the Here's for those of you at home. That is a more deep pop figure. Yes yes I have a comic Lachlan from Dune you know Palm Wad EIB. Paul Atredes. Ivanka figure it even has the cool blue eyes because blue eyes spice so yes this is the version of poetry is of course from David Lynch's soon and I also have. I will kill him. Yeah let's see that's a little disappointing. Why he's fully clothed well? There is a variant variant of that with the flying just flying underpants as sting himself refers to yes flying flying underpins. There's a version of that. I didn't want the flying underpants version. I wanted the wrong with you because I'm a straight white dude. Okay okay well yeah fine whatever. Yeah so you have straight straight white female friends WHO's birthdays are in April. Just say now that now the flying underpants version. That's at the ogre a solid there. Oh is it now it is so oh consider yourself fully notified. What's up? How's it going? I'm coming to see you so I had to pick up these two bad nights nicer. Oh yeah so it's got Staying as state route and Very cool so so now have to sting funke figures this one from the police and then one from Dune and then I now have three three McLaughlin figures. Oh Yeah you've got the two cougars. I yeah exactly so. So I've got double Ganger Cooper and Regular Cooper in Nice. That's pretty pretty sweet so cool I. They didn't know these were out. I knew they were coming but I didn't know they were out so I'm just like my weekly budget but okay yes cove breath. I'm good. It's it's worth it. It's worth it so I just wanted to share that with the class. I think you need to those are fantastic and I I was able to pick up. I wish they would be more. I want because the only the only did Fayed and Paul. Yeah they should do who Peter de Vries Divider Degrees for sure Alec burying her Heart Conan. Yeah you'd have to do Barron Arcona that goes without saying I'd like a Gurney Haluk frankly gurney would be cool Alya you need to do aaliyah. Oh Yeah and then that would also be to Jason's exactly yes so that'd be good. Yeah I was able to pick up. The target exclusive Dirk Crystal Asia resistance figures. Nice which I didn't realize we're thing that I'm at target. I'm like is that the heretic. What the hell so I I spent? I spent way too much on pop figures I try. I try to keep the PUCK. Figures to a minimum Absolute Adoration Status Right. You know but it's you know. I absolutely adore a lot of things. So that's kind of a problem. I was able to justify this. Because hey there's only two of them Ligo so that's unless they make more in which case I'm screwed because because then the collector part of me would like to complete the set Well I don't know if you ever shop at game stop but Gamespot will sometimes have buy two get one free sales. Yeah so then you got a barnstable table. Does that too. Yeah they do. Yeah all right so Enough of the FUNK. Oh stuff because but I just thought that because it was twin peaks related now all right so here episode once. Excuse me sixty six. We're GONNA talk yeah. The twin peaks the return part nine which aired erred. Way Back on July ninth twenty seventeen written of course by Mark Frost Avalanche Lynch Yada. Yada you know that deal and Also known as of course this is the chair. This is the chair. This is the chair now. This is Obviously we were coming right off the huge episode eight. So we're kind of start to get back into the regular Storyline or at least you know. Storyline threads So we catch up with dougie slash super duper and Janey easy. The and we catch up with bobby and you know in the in the twin peaks sheriff's department and And then of course. Gordon Ordinance Tammy Preston and that Wacky Bill Hastings and so. We're GONNA talk about that here today as we resume our commentaries. Picking up where we left left off and anything you WANNA talk about before we get started. No nothing right now. I think you know it's interesting about how and I've said it before and I'll just say it again then the now that I'm less impatient tient with what's going to happen. I'm really enjoying these dougie. Plot it's what to expect. Never know what to expect. Yeah it's like the the the dougie pot one. It's not tolerable now. It's more yeah. It's more tolerable. It's it's charming. I think it's a charming little story right you can. You can appreciate Comic Lachlan's performance. Oh Yeah Yeah I think like can we know that. We're going to get cooper eventually so it's okay. Yeah and you know. David Lynch doesn't do comedy very often. Yeah he did on the air so yeah I like David Lynch comedy and that's what that's Dougie dugout is. He does have a very interesting sense of humor. Yeah especially especially she with pulling you know the humor of the absurd that he does especially on twin peaks. Oh Yeah for sure for sure all right so obviously for everyone one playing a home game if you recall floor just stop spinning for Spinning on the one minute. Thirty two second mark. And if everybody's ready Eddie at home has their all blue raise all queued up. We will do this in three two one now. My Gosh how do you survive having having a bunch of ghost write woods. Men's hands all in your open wounds. I want to know how his shirt survived like well. They were running around in in. There shouldn't be all ripped up. That's an excellent question. You should have a giant gaping hole in the middle of that shirt right unless he stole another shirt from. Yeah somebody else. But you're going to need a little bit more than that band of even bothered to wipe his face off no he just stole a Bandanna screw these people in their Bandana their dog does not get a neckerchiefs. Thank you very much. So they're gonNA have to hold up a bank on their own time. Yep Sitter better ever flown on a private jet. I've never I've never done it. I'm just wondering if it's I've flown jets small enough to to be private jets but especially to the Bahamas but Yeah that's right. Yeah we're almost died on your rocket cycle. Michael I remember that Goodness Garden Coal Garden Jordan. Call after all these years. He couldn't have gotten like an implant or something you would think right. We're like a cochlear cochlear implant something. Yeah seriously have you ever seen those videos of children getting those implants and the hearing for the first time I have. Oh my God. It's so there is just get so wide. They're just oh they're so excited this. There's yeah by the way Diane's phone case right can be purchased at target really. Yeah I cannot think of the name of the brand and right now but Yeah it's a it's a turn a design for target interesting. Yeah I thought about buying one one except hey hey tim roth how you back yeah baby. It's been awhile since we seen you. Welcome back to the series. Tim Roth my friend Sarah who is a twin peaks fan. Yes when we were when we run up on her favorite movies of all time was Rosencrantz and Gilbert's Turner did. Oh I've never seen that movie. It's good it's good. It's him and Gary Oldman even so it's about just about as snow. Said there yes chantal is here were they get you everywhere yeah. He's got a bullet wound in his shirt but no giant gaping hole from where our eighteen woodsmen have had their hands at him. It's just nice. Let's see Jennifer. Jason Leigh Again. That's all I love Jennifer. Jason Leigh. I've been a fan of hers since hudsucker proxy. Oh my God. How amazing she she? She's like my definitive. Like one thousand nine hundred forty s Lois Lane Oh. She hasn't heard hudsucker proxy. She would have been fantastic in that. Oh my gosh. If you you did like Fleischer like in a live action Fleischer Studios Superman movie. Oh yeah or even if she was the voice yes they did if they did a new Fleischer esque cartoon. Yeah she'll be perfect fantastic. She's got that cadence down perfectly. Oh yeah he's a complete moron the fast talking career Gal yet fast on career. But she's a Muncie girl. The muncie Carol. Guys haven't seen the hudsucker proxy. It is an extremely underrated underrated. I Love Poetry Coen brothers movie. I love that movie and IT'S I. We both highly highly recommend it and hand. It's for kids. Hey for kids. It's you know for kids. Excellent performance I know F- You Albert if you Albert I love that excellent performances by Paul Newman in Charleston. Earning especially yes so I wonder who Diane I. Ah this in quotes. Dr Aaron is is getting food does look at that old agent moulder that she's got their Tammy. Well you know she probably like lifted wanted it right up Mo Fox Mulder's desk the X. Files and she went down to the basement got his phone is every five thousand times they they shut down the x files she probably lifted. Yeah yeah he didn't get to Buckhorn fast enough. DID YOU MR strawberry. Yeah Uh should step on the gas. How the hell did that happen? What do you mean you let him go? Mr Strawberry Cooper flew the coop coop. I love that. See you either. Hunt Shock. How long was he waiting to make that joke? Kook Food Seriously Hutcheon. Shantelle are horrible. People I mean they just killed it killed his family for to hang out at their farm squad at their farm for a while. It always feels like you know every time we see them. That it's kind of like this weird crossover over between David Lynch and Quentin Tarantino because their characters that would be perfect in the Quentin Tarantino movie. Oh absolutely but they're these hitting David David Lynch smart ass. You know Hitman Yep coupon coupon to buy some insurance catch up at Dunkin. Todd Yep oh man that's my work computer actually at this at at this point the series we're kind of starting to get the connections now. Yeah because we're starting to figure out why a lot of the stuff we saw at the beginning of the series we were just like okay. How does this relate At All yeah and to frost and Lynch's credit they start tying these threats together They do so I gotta give him credit credit for that they did bring it together all these disparate threads. So I'm of the opinion that Tim Merav right and second behind him. Is Gary Oldman. Yeah is the absolute greatest accent actor. I think he can do a different accent. Better than anybody. Anybody Gary Oldman's probably a close second. But I I think Tim Tim. Roth is fantastic you you know. He's pretty good. I'll give you that those of you don't know he is extremely British in real life or on the way I love that. Kill him at home at work or on the way you just really think about because you think about him in pulp fiction where. He's kind of doing this this You know the bank robber type voice or the you know the restaurant yeah robber yeah. That's his actual voice in pulp fiction on this right. Is everybody everybody do yoga. Yeah that that's his but I was. I was thinking. Oh what am I thinking. Then you're thinking of resin yet. That's it I'm thinking God damnit Charles. Why didn't I buy Cheetos for this episode right there so good so at least he cleaned all the blood off of his face kiss? So he's he's so dreamy. Actually you know what Charles now that you mention it as much as I love. Jennifer Jason. Leigh yes I think. Amanda plummer Moore would've been good in that role to and it would have been nice reunion for Tim Roth surgery that would have been from that restaurants union pulp fiction. Yes and what's going on Yup. He's solid citizen. Just hanging out up down the police station all look. It's todd packer. Say His last name David Kettner or is it I think kanter. I think it's kept nomenclature but forget who I know I've seen the other guys I'm wearing too but I can't remember where and Naomi Watts is really good at the accents to she is she's trillion right and I don't know if you've ever seen tank girl. But that's why I have seen tanker all that's her actual voice in the if you've seen Mulholland drive you know that obviously there's not a hint of that in her voice my God. She's so amazing. That yes she is. We're GONNA obviously have to talk about that at some point. Yeah we should. We do a review of the BLU. Ray We should that I've got the criterion version now all the criterion David Lynch stuff. That's coming put but then on twenty twenty scheduled twenty twenty schedule. Yep Oh my gosh everything. David Lynch needs to be criterion. There's not a lot. There's not a lot out there you know it's not like it's a it's not like you keep wondering if criterion is GonNa do it a version of Dune to cash in in on the upcoming Dune Adaptation. Maybe you know something Charles. I knew it wasn't going to happen because principal filming. I'm just ended right but I was really hoping there would be a dune trailer during arises skywalker. I was too. I was really hoping for that. So we're probably GONNA have to wait till like wonder woman or something that's probably true I would guess. WB that'd be my guess Wonder Woman Twenty Twenty or one thousand nine hundred and twenty which I cannot wait for because my nineteen eighty-four was nothing but wonder woman. Yeah so did it that it happened. The trailer has that really cool new new order come Dougie you can take the rest of the day all I wanNA. I WanNa know why that is. I know we gotta find that but because I love Monday of course Oh yeah right right. Did you see a ghostbuster trailer when you saw risk Walker. I did not nearly and I was surprised. I was is kind of hoping for that too. I don't know if you guys have not seen the ghostbusters trailer. I have seen it. I just didn't see it with the right if our listeners listeners. Haven't heard it. They should check that out. On shipments should look it up. All right okay. What are we got going on here? He doesn't exist exactly before before. Nineteen ninety-seven which is not at all suspicious. No it's not all suspicious. My question is even. The fuscos are zeroing in on this one. What went on between nineteen ninety one in two thousand seven? What went on in those six years? You mean nineteen ninety-seven. What did I say you said? Two thousand seven. I mean nineteen ninety-seven. Yes what went on in those six years was Dougie like brewing somewhere in the lodge. There's something I don't know probably well. Yeah yeah he's just you know he wasn't finished yet he's still cooking. Yeah he was still cooking cooking. Still cooking. Incubation Technology was in its infancy. I was born seven months premature and they put me in a cast iron pot in a pizza oven. My bones never hardened but my spirit did sorry. That's magic where's that from Rome is have you ever seen the SNL where it's career day at school and one kids dad comes in and he's an oil. Baron played by Adam driver. Oh yeah yeah okay all right children an oil baron. I'm mortifies father. Look at me boy. Oil Look at me. One man came close. His name was H R pickens whose HR pickens exactly. It's fantastic our children. I was told to bring a healthy snack. Join me in the hallway for swine livers and Capri Sun on. I have an idea. Let's let's call Ron Burgundy Scotch Scotch. Scotch what does your back to your home on the island. My favorite line from that entire movie. Go back to your home and Hor Island. Why don't you go back back to your black lodge right todd packer? We'll see you in Tallahassee fresh. Oh coffee here. I kept thinking cooper progress bar rising. Yeah I kept thinking every with every up a coffee. Just Hooper was GONNA come back. They should've had a little indicator the bottom superimposed on the screen. Yeah Karama exactly like the coffee episode of Futurama. Exactly thank you thank you you you. You took my where I was going. And you've nailed it perfectly. Thank you this is why I love working with you. This is fantastic. Yes this is why you need me Charlie I do I do I do you pull the stuff out of my head and articulated perfectly. I should hire hire you. I'm just here. I know. Let the Jones go doug. Jones wounded deer meadow shuffle. Everybody didn't and I kept hoping for a special agent Chet Desmond into walk out. Oh my God how much star one agent shut desmond to figure. I wonder what happened to him. Is He and other tin machine in the up in the upstairs of the Convenience Union store twin peaks season four in my opinion. Come on David Lynch Chris. I gotta be up for this. Yeah I I've got a question for you Charles. Yes did you see what's it Dougie's Dougie's having a moment here that come on. Come on back to is cooper. It'd be kind of back. Can you kind of funny. If the camera just bumped into them went too far and zoom it would be good book. Are you remembering to stand up in. Put your hand on your heart yet to thank you. Everyone off your hats. Yes we play player national anthem nationally. I know I know it's America the beautiful I. They just said a lot of people think it's our national anthem. Though the idiots I know this I know they are yeah. It's the Star spangled banner. Is Sirs Bingo. Banner is our national anthem. They think American beautiful is our national. America's beautiful is a is a is a good. Yes Oh what the. Oh shoes like Andrea horns shoes hood on your red shoes and dance the blues. And that's where you came from. Oh it's home. Yeah I just want to crawl back in there. It's so worm in here so warm and fuzzy some lovely little comforting little buzz. Every time I go in there in that or he's thinking they can like jade's up to now gift to rides have bet she did. Okay so did you see the picture that kind of McLaughlin tweeted of him and Laura dern good. He congratulated her. I did is that a new picture old picture. I think it's a new picture seth. That's a new picture. He's got got dyed hair again. I noticed that but did you also notice and I posted this on. Our ghost would page. There was a picture of him at snoqualmie falls. I did see that. Yes so right. What the heck is up? I Have A. I don't I don't know where this going to be taking this but I have a place. It's both wonderful four range. I suspect this is is not gonNA is something is happening isn't it. Margaret is happening again again again. Yeah yeah this doesn't end well for the spike today doesn't new the spike. You try so well He. He tries so hard. Yeah well he is. He's a Hitman that just pretty much kills indiscriminately like this little. Like ball of terror. And I I love him. He's like a Tasmanian Devil. Exactly you know. It's just what's he gets going. He's like a little cyclone. Yeah when he sees somebody he just goes running after me kind of funny to see him spinning around seriously. This is not this is not good. The first goes got the drop on the spike. And if this were any other day yeah I I could probably take all these guys. I know I would put money on them normally. But he's got it but he does have a busted busted up hand. Yeah remember. They broke his. He broke his spike right. Ya You did Douglas Jones moves like a Ninja. Move like a Cobra a pct. Yes Cobra shot there with the sun. I know it's a beautiful day twin peaks at the sheriff's this department that a little sixty three degrees here on twin peaks Washington. It's a long par five to the nation's capital Aw as Lucy approaches the website very carefully because you know it's Ah See he's got a different design on the chair the he wants. He wants the the plaid. Br The reddish plaid one and she likes the Beige one so for anybody wondering about the married life of Andy Lucy here you go kids this is it. This is like the married life have just been everybody though only through the the twin peaks filter. Yeah exactly right. I love the Red Chair. There's two of of you by two chairs right exactly. How small is your living room? You can't afford both or or that you don't have room for both. Maybe they can't afford both so Charles. I'm not sure if I WANNA shirt that has read bows on my lapels or question marks lapels question. What the question marks yeah? I'm probably the wrong person to ask about that but I would go question. Question marks a jacket like that unfortunately or a cricket bat for that matter you could go to actually have the peer Davidson's cricket sweater. That is so bad that the jumper I've got that and his Panama hat even better. But I mean as I mean. Fourth doctor is my favorite right but Peter Davison the hottest one. It's he's the best looking. Yeah yeah well. He was the David tennant of his era because they considered him the sexy doctor back then he was a sexy doctor. But now it's like classic doctor who he's the best looking one but dr who If if you said Zinn you you can have night with one of the doctors. Who would you pick? That would be the one ECCLESTON ECCLESTON I'd pick. I'd pick alliston interest not night if not the expected first choice. If he was available I I would do the Davis interesting so we should have said that discussion for next up everywhere but yeah but well you know Oh and now now here. We're catching up with the war. We out of Autan episodes though. Yeah there's only only two or three yeah. Count the modern era. But we've done that one then we did it. We did it we did road. I know you did that one. Yeah we did the one we can always do. We can always do a commentary. We haven't done commentaries on next up everywhere never going. Well what's going on Johnny. Poor for Johnny Horne. Oh that's not good no especially when you see the blood johnny. It's not a dollhouse anymore. Yeah yeah now. Johnny played by different actor. Yes not the one from the TV series for the. There's there's actually been three. There was one in the pilot And then there was one in you know the one the main one in the and then this this actor right here. Let's see. Do I have his name written down him. The win this series I refer to as Amen Johnny Yeah Yeah Charlotte Stewart. Amen Amen Amen. We have the late Robert Forster. Yes sad to say late Robert Forester. Now I know I know exactly I wanNA hear. We're catching up with Betty Briggs. Yeah the Great Charlotte Stewart. WHO's been with David Lynch from the beginning right and she knows why they're there because she might look like your basic suburban military wife mother but she knows some weird stuff? Well considering her husband Garland Briggs who is a bit tiny himself delve. He is a little busy wanted me. This is very true men. Michael Horses hot with that. Silver Hair. The Silver Fox escorts that Silver Silver Fox. Look on him is just really. I guess back in the nineties I was a little too Colin mclachlan. centric came to me watching the show. But he's look as you've gotten older. Yes well that's the thing it's like you know he's he's he's still the classic looking guy that it's I think I don't know I think there's some there was some things like I thought this was was a clever idea to to kind of make give major break something to do without major briggs. Actually being the air yeah exactly and it also and also this this really nice stuff here between bobby and his mom. Oh Yeah yes. I'm very sweet stuff here. This is very X.. Files to sort sort of reminds me well with the music does sound a little bit like you know. Mark Snow well. Do you remember that episode of the x files. Where Cooper goes back home cooper? Listen to me Muller Yeah Bracing Age of race and goes back home Asian these bryce and goes back to and and gets that alien killer out of the lamp. He breaks a lamp. And there's the alien killer in there yes. This reminds me of that. Little plunger thing that comes out and you pop it in the back of their neck and I wonder ah how she sat in that. How often she sat in that chair wondering right thing going to happen? That garland told me about. Does she have this under like her planner her calendar. Today's the day I've been waiting time. She just sorta knew. I think bobby is better looking. As he's older too I mean body was good looking back back in the day but he was just such a such punk then now he's you know he's grown up. He's he's respectable now not not not only that he's just he's just figured himself out a little bit more. He's less angry. I guess grew up. None of these people know that he killed a guy. I'm just saying that right. He's and and he's working for the police department. None of them had figured this out. Yeah that's that's a really great background check guys. I wonder if major briggs saw that yet before your father died. He told me that one day body would come to the House with Hawk and Sheriff Truman. After where he killed a can I want I want you to tell them that he killed a guy right they should they should say that. So so here's where we bring the lieutenant knocks connection in to the main storyline. Diane just Digi Elfrid here. No it's interesting interesting. How Diana's man spreading here she totally is but she's got such long legs? Well think about Laura dern is that she's amazing okay right. I've been a huge Laura dern fan for most of my life. I don't know if you knew this Charles pansies going move against Pansy pansies movie the Teachers was filmed here in Columbus Ohio. And Laura dern that Laura dern masks so there's all these eighties movies that I grew up seeing Laura dern. Here's the the big revelation coming up. Yep then check. My text message is now who was text messaging earlier. Oh yeah around lively dinner table. The conversation is lightly that means Dunton. Don Mr C. is texting she. She is a contact cahoots. They are in cahoots in cahoots. It's a great word isn't cahoots. SCOOTS is a fantastic fantastic trek word. All right so now. We're finding out that scooby and the Librarian Scooby Shaggy and the librarian boots so yeah I do at school and we're just I just had sex with her an affair. I didn't take her head off. Then replace it with the body of a of a dead marine from air. I was he marines or air force. Air Force Air Force stuff is always air force. That's true here's tragic book. Here's Albert's girlfriend or at least who should be. Albert's girlfriend constant Talbot gotta hope these two seriously. Here's the body of your major briggs although now thinking about it that if if we obviously can't have Miguel Ferrer if they do do a twin peak season four they could have talbot. Talbot is a filling character. Yep Yep she can she can take well I can just she gonNA tend to fill the void and sexy obviously not nearly to that level but that sense of humor is there. This is so cute. When the dog got the cat's eyes look at look at Albert? He wants to laugh but he just can't bring himself to Talbott show that much emotion. Albert's like do you want to just have sex right here on this table right here. There's gotta be a free sterile table here somewhere the zone who seen the zone the phantom zone suit which I here's a fabulous podcast agree podcast. You guys should be downloading. That's all same. That's right check it out. This is bizarre to think that majors in his forties right. Because I'm in my forties and I really feel anywhere near as responsible as I like to think I'm fifty now. Oh Yeah I think I. H better than major briggs. Did I hope well yeah. That's the fact that you're still in his forties off and you're still aging which is more than I can say for. Major breaks. This is this is. This is very true. Tell contact contact us. They were sharing telepathic. Yes that's right if you can think of a better way to do it I'd love to hear it. You know. This is the same move that they did Outside of Mister C's interrogation doesn't getting Bluer Yup Bluer exactly Rose Guinea Bluer. I just like putting my hand on your shoulder Howard. Sorry about that. I don't blame you. Don't take the don't eat the real Tony in the ring. Now this Dougie's wedding ring. What the Hell is going on right at this point? Yeah gotTa Find Bill Hastings School God Washington Oregon or just gorgeous places. I know right. I've never been to Washington. I need to go out there. Yup At the moment this is the moment that Zan you've been waiting for it is it's coming up. This is your I know I would. I feel so much better now so great. It's one of the best moments ever now from what I understand. David Patrick Kelly. Kelly says he did not do the voice for this. Oh I wonder who did. That's a good question. It's it's it's a mystery. It is a mystery. Nobody's up to it yet. Oh he is the perfect old boomers donor. Isn't he pretty much pretty much so great to hit snow. The hipster boomers donor. Yeah Yeah Oh man any pack. I don't know how you film this scene with accrue not laughing you had to be out one hand held camera because it's filter eh filter out the audio or something. Because it's just too good to Jerry come out and play Nice foot go on touch it newnan Jerry versus and Ah Damn it you just got beaten up by his own foot you realize this you know here's the thing about Chad I'll bet you he stole both those. TV dinners from the Freezer. Oh totally yeah. Yeah that guy. He's he's the guy who raised the office fridge up. Let's see what are you eating five guys. Maybe it's like a giant sandwich. Yeah it looks kind of like a serious. Like Double Decker Burger seriously. Yeah eating the Ladies Room Chedda. Easily Room Chad. We had having coffee in here. You don't you chat ass Outta here your Chad. We're US take both of your stolen. TV dinners get the crap out of ink yet out get the hell out. I love how he just like. Because he's a Dick. Yeah he's a Douche. He takes his time doing in. Drags it out intentionally. I wouldn't didn't have a problem with body gets in there. The old waiter shuffle. Yeah Bobby gets to be in there and bobby killed a guy like this moment. The little help hawks standing there ain't helping you all right. Whatever if you get hawk out of the room faster right just go going to happen? Yeah just do it. Just do it. We got to get the stink out seriously. You Salisbury steak. That's going to last for a couple of smells alter shad here ourselves I kid Joseph's school lunch and Chad. We're smell ever serious. I smell ever know seems openings. That means it's a positive sheriff. There's no button. Do you see a button. I don't see if I drop it on the floor like Andrew Packer did with Thomas Eckhardt package right. It worked then broke up third at the wall. Well that's kind of what they do. That's what bobby does is throw it on the floor serious. He's like let's go out in the concrete. I'll throw down their work. Yeah do it era. Let's go outside right. Buggies got when she just tell us that in the first place. I didn't know that that's you were going to do and we came in here. I thought we had. Yeah we did. We didn't have to go through. That whole thing with taking out can take you to eat sandwich a good long time it. That's just magic right there. I love that moment go. It's lacking do this. This whack. This by the way is a good way to open a coconut to is it. Yep turn it on the ground. Well that's cool. What um on it's the zone? Everybody exactly it's the zone inside of a little tube. Mio Ring Hyo demille Ricky Hill. which which is watching Bobby fritter away afternoon here? This what bobby does all they throw stuff on the concrete with all of the evidence. Bobby that's where all. Oh my pen's went dude. Dude let somebody role one man holding this tube is insane. Do nothing he says. Your Fortune says two hundred fifty three yards yards ease of Jack. Rabbits slim's await jackrabbit slim's contests no ticket away. Hey that is Marilyn Monroe and that is made me man Mamie van Doren and I don't see Jayne Mansfield so she must have the night off or something nice very nice pretty smart. Yeah my moments buddy. Holly's much of a waiter. Look at all buddy. Holly played by the Great Steve. Shimmy right what is it bobby. Nothing I just is killed guy. I know we're Jack Rabbits Palace. What else are you not telling us? You knew how to open this thing. You know where Jack Rabbits palaces. Bobby's filled with Stephen Work here. I was the one who named check rabbits palace all right well. Can we get in the car and go. There brings back some memories. My Dad was very cryptic. Yeah I'm still paying off the therapist by the way I could use a raise. Great you want to help you out. Also it doesn't. Is it okay that I killed a guy I loved that this was here Cooper. I was so excited. That that was their hooper. Cooper Cooper Cooper her. You're Gupta Akbar to cougars. Hell Yeah Hawk. There's two Cooper's book ends the to Cooper's next on doctor who saw coming together for me now. The smoke break for Dan. Yeah Topa Smoking. What pantsuits really don't work for any money Not True I mean I mean like a suit with pants one thing but we're it's like one long jumper like. Oh Yeah Romper for grownups. Yeah I'm I'm not a mismatched jacket. I'm not big on those where it's all like like a speed suit. I'll just say that speeds. Yeah it's it's like the venture breath exactly Danis Gordon. Gordon is seriously turned on by that cigarette. It totally is if only she spokes rent is just like I just WanNa smoke death thing she wants to. He wants to speak a little French. She spoke a little French. Jesse right here is where I'm going. Oh my God I've been waiting for twenty five years somebody think so we're just gonNa Watch tammy sway a little bit because that's what she does. Lack Lazy River hugs the shore. Right GonNA attached just like. I'm just going to stand here. I know I'm supposed to be in this scene but not really sure what witting. Yeah I'm David Lynch have you. Have you seen me. Not Smoke. Ever David Lynch Gordon the HR has told you about this. This is a no smoking zone. You realize you just raised your insurance your insurance premiums by thirteen dollars a month right right right. Yeah we sure did. We smoked a lot of different stuff. Didn't we got it. We got it all from Jerry Horne. Jeez Lick School misuse school. My Mom and dad are going to be to turn that into a screaming like that. Yes did hi I I just had sex with somebody besides my wife. I didn't kill anybody. I swear. Here's the thing though hastings even if you do even if the truth comes out and people figure out what happened here. I don't think you're gonNA be principal anymore. No I think he's done. I think I think you're going to have to find. Oh I'm forty three. I don't feel like I'm old enough to be like the principles contemporary the one. You just want Tammy to slap him at this point ban up the search for the zone by Paladin Press As an alternate reality in a parking lot. But it's really been there. We found this headless air force. Man Have you ever experienced feelings of dread in your attic or basement. If you or a a member of your family ever seen spoken goes yeah are. Are you awaken by strange noises in the middle of the night. Then call us if the answer is yes. Don't wait another minute. Pick up the phone and call the professionals ghostbusters. We're ready to believe you. Oh is that what. They're calling it now now. This sounds a lot a lot like those kids that stabbed their friend in order to see the slender man. Yeah Yeah pretty much. When Jupiter lands with Ma disc- then he will find the plan ahead age of Aquarius? He does Aquaria. That quinary has so. Yeah I don't know if you guys out there in podcast lander true crime fans but if you want to look at the slender man attack it was too horrible twelve year. Old Girls from Waukesha Wisconsin. Who really should have known better? Who stabbed their friend thinking they were going to summon the slender man and then they went looking for him in a national forest? That was a good six hours away from their house but they went just walking. See if they could get their. Yeah so yeah because hey creepy pasta. Here's the thing Charles. I was a horror movie buff when when I was a kid when I was eleven. Twelve years old. I had Freddie Krueger posters on my wall I loved the movie The shining killer the man I didn't kill her showings slowly school but soon but you know what I knew they were so. Don't tell Fred Vilma don't don't tell Fred and Daphne they'll know will understand a little weird that way but I knew it was fiction. Oh you know that's the thing you know things are fictional. That's the major theory. Is he so dreamy. Trust circle around the photo of the man you called and Nature Sinan dated. Okay now do the Hokey pokey yourself about now. Because that's what it's all about now. Finish this burger maize on this on your big boy menu now answer. ABC OR D. Tell me exactly what what happened. In how his head his headless body wound up in the floating around of your girlfriend girlfriend and her head right like a balloon. He said some words. Cooper School Cooper Cooper Cooper. He said it twice survey catch that he said twice twice. I've nursing anything like it. Even though I've been all kinds of haunted hotels bright all kinds of hunting hunting parks. See There's another movie. You never see on cable that Scooby Doo with him in print junior and buffy the vampire slayer. I don't remember who plays Vilma. Oh that's Celinda Cartolini. Oh is that okay. Yeah yeah she's really good. I thought I thought she did love finding it but we don't we it was just. We didn't need it now. We didn't need it but it was for the kids. You know it wasn't for us. I think it was supposed to be for us us. I don't think we're the ones that grew up with the Scooby Doo. I know that we do premiered in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine. Does he knew his wife dead yet. Please him ZANEX something. We're going to go to. This is actually a pretty amazing performance comments by Matthew Lillard. Matthew Lillard fantastic in this. He's now great. Do it again. Yeah Picture Lynch Yeah Front right from the top. Let's go and so they August. I WANNA go scuba diving. God you're pathetic yes I would love some fruitcake right about now. Albert Albert with the the great took off air. I got fruit cake from Costco for Christmas. I had people. Oh my God. It was his meanwhile forrest. Meanwhile it goes for forest. And there's there we are eight northern something weird is in those walls. And here's the affair. That is not going to happen right but could have maybe eighty possibly happened. I think beverly wanted it to happen. I think they both want to but they both know that this is just kind of not what we should be doing. And it's just kind kind of kind of shows at least Ben. There's a little bit of good Ben left in there. I think just a little or that. Maybe he's just like okay. I'm I'm not that guy anymore. He retired from his shenanigans. He's been eating enough carrots me. He stay on the path. Yep Yeah also could have very easily done cheated on Soviet again yeah. It was like five billion billionth time I was GONNA say. Isn't she a little old for him. So gross this would drive me insane if I had this in my my office I know I have to move. I'm done. I would have like a constant news bleeding and I would never be asleep. I would be like just completely in like my anxiety would take over and I'd be like where's that guy from killing. Yes make it stop. Oh my God I can't take it anymore. Oh Good Oh oh let me. I didn't mean to put my hand on your chest chest and my hand on your shoulder arm there. Oh is this your Lapel Hill. So right now right. I don't know why why I just can't ever. Since that one teenager I had sex with was murdered. It kind of put me off. No He's not. He's maybe a better man than he was but he's maybe better than it used to be that he's he's not particularly feeling good man now now. The in my opinion the worst performance. In the ROADHOUSE. Yeah not a big fan of twin peak season. Three human by Hudson Mohawk. Take it for what you will. Here's it is what it is I want to know who's like bopping along this. She is Oh and yeah and and the award. For the skanky EST twin peaks character goes to sky. I Ferreira as Ella. Yeah because of her nasty ass armpit. Yeah Brash exactly. And the fact that that is underwear that she's wearing a shirt right you know. And and she's got she's got she's got like crack teeth she yeah. She's got meth teeth meth yeah she probably like well she probably got it from crack mom She's got teeth Meth pimples. This mom's younger sister. Oh you got fired. What a shocker? Yeah I'm stunned. Yeah now what. This conversation has to do with anything. I have no idea video stealing boxes or something. How you get fired on your day off the only good thing about this is that it distracts us from the Hudson Mohawk doc performance? Yeah that's the thing but did you do the work though if you came in high times did you actually in fact do the work really easily pretty much now when people say no ketchup. They mean it ou- Out Out out how that hurts when I think about it. Maybe you should switch to a different razor or you're or you know skin conditioner or something or just like her beer just says beer yeah it's like TV beer a violent yet flammable world. Yes Olive Wa- Simone because of all the bands to get a second performance. You wouldn't think Simone you know as much as I was not a huge fan of their music. Yeah I love that name. It's a great name. It's a great name I will give you that. Yeah Talk About Your Big Butts Moon. Oh my gosh. Don't scratch it you're just gonNa make it worse. I'm just going to sniff it up. Thank you for sharing that with us. David Lynch that was that was great. That was wonderful Yep really added a lot to the storyline. Well here's the thing Charles going to make a confession right about now. Okay I it had something like that. One time. It was a reaction to depilatory. Oh it was horrible. I'm sure it was what I did. What did you do I kept? It covered it up in public and I went and got an antibiotic for it. Well that's crazy I know do that. Why would you do something like that? I don't know that's just crazy. Talk Talk I don't know maybe some sort of common sense got filtered into my head. That's messed up man. It's messed up. See this is the interesting thing about when you when you're playing instruments that are mostly programmed right You can't really really jam out on your instrument now no no so now. One thing I did notice was watching the roadhouse performances. The the member on the right the far-right no. She's the hottest one in the group. The issue though I think she is really and she and she knows it too because if you look at look at her body language yeah ci not really works it. I kind of like the hasn't shirt in this phoebe. Augustine look in with a really low cut blouse right. You're that's a good observation with phoebe Augustine. But I don't know if you've ever seen bands that are just very programmable keyboard heavy. Yeah but it helps when they had. I've seen Vince Clarke twice once with erasure and once with Yezou and it really helps when they have a really charismatic frontman slush. Front woman. That's why like the chromatic. Yeah exactly but Yeah when you're doing your Vince Clarke thing you need an Andy Bell or alison yet. That's all what I'm saying. Yeah some of stage presence. Yeah I think it's interesting because I think there's the one that looks like Phoebe Augustine and she looks like Laura dern and then the one little bit in the far right looks like Jennifer. Jason Leigh Little Bit little. Bit Little Bit remnant adjacent eysenck. She's sent it and Jennifer. Jason Leigh scented right. Shall we say so. You know it's a lot easier to read Roman numerals. Now that it's past the year two thousand you just go to M M and then you're like oh I know these. Yeah it's GonNa Start Getting hurt again. Amazon thousand Emma's yeah. It's it's an annex x this year isn't it let's see yes yes yup and their necks. MMX's yeah that's her sh- are episode. Everybody and that's our episode. Everybody hope you enjoyed it. We tried tried to make some things like the armpit seen a little more palatable. Yeah it's not good. Yeah so yeah. This is a this is an interesting one because everything being starts to come together in this one and yeah every let a lot of like. I said a lot of the threads or the various storylines start kind live connecting and we kinda start saying. Okay well maybe restoring to see how things are going to play out a little bit. Yeah it might not seem like it when you first I are watching a David thing but David Lynch does is deliberate and including including this sto. Every it's coming together. Doug Jones and how he relates to major briggs and how he relates to Bill Hastings. And what's going on with Diane and how she is still in contact with breath cooper. So it's all very kind of all over the place you know what I mean. It's all connected. Yeah it's all connected and for finally figuring that out in this episode so I like this one and it is good because I think episode eights made me slow down a little bit. Maybe just say okay look this is going to be right. We're just so mind blown by that episode. Yeah yeah we were so mind blown by that episode that I was like all right well. That was beautiful. I'm ready to step back on track. Yeah I'm ready for anything. He's GonNa give me at this point right and we were kind of disappointed that we didn't know anything about out the front. The Little Frog Moss No. We don't learn about the frog moth but it is. It's very deliberate that it's there so so but this episode I it starts to tie things together so even though you're still a little bit impatient at this point right you're liking what you're watching you're feeling better about it so exactly exactly. So do you have a rating for this one. I do I do do I. Have I have nine out of ten lost marbles. Oh you really you actually this one then this this gets at least a point for Jerry's Jerry's foot. Yeah yes he will see in that sense. You know with that in mind my rating not as high as yours. I'M GONNA we get this one eight and a half out of ten feet that aren't Jerry's fee feed that aren't Jerry's feet. That's a good rating. I like that reading. Thank you but this is that my I am not your so what you do that so well so I didn't know better. I swear you were the voice on that. Maybe I in maybe you are. It's it's not David Patrick Kelly. It's gotTa meet somebody. Maybe IT'S A. Hey if nobody else is owning up to it you might as well I should I should just. It's like inventing posted. I should just claim it. Exactly what else wants to step up to the plate take right right. That's what that's what I would do all right now. We actually got some facebook feedback. Yes we this time so I want to share that with everybody. Everybody who had if you don't mind so a Marxist lattany or tell excuse me Mark Zalmi hope. I'm pronouncing that right Z.. A. T. E L. and why okay so apologies. If I completely butchered your last name mark tell us. Tell us how to do it for doing it wrong. So he writes in. Hey guys. I hope you're a well. Well thank you. I'm sort of well. Charles has a has a deviated Septum but now no I had operated on a surgery fix that completely messed up. Otherwise my lungs are crap but You know it's not Scottish. It's crap hate when his shoulder the customers like that she was cute now and we're GONNA go down there rabbit hole all right. Hey guys hope. You're well I have two questions in general take. How do you think the story would have developed? Had the writers had complete control through the first two seasons. ooh that's a fantastic question. That's got several questions here so yeah so let's start with that one I. It's okay. Okay if they had had control the first thing I think is. I don't think we would found out who killed Laura as soon if that all right. I think that's the main thing. Obviously the network was really pressuring them to reveal. Well it yeah yeah to. What else frick this? I don't know if you've seen this but this is a ten in our a loop of bubba fixing hey over and over again for ten hours. I've gotten through maybe seven minutes for for seven minutes. I was like doing other stuff too and I'm like I can't I love you bobby. I I just can't do this. You of all people should know he's ripping off crusty the clown. Well Hey yeah but this. This one's a better. Hey Hey in my opinion this is a really draws it out anyway. That's just so Dan so Dan my God i Love Creek. Black back and Yeah I think that's my main my main thing that we would have not found out who killed Laura as soon if at all I think. That's I totally agree with that because the yeah the like I said the networks of them and You know you would just you know. Obviously I think that Lynch because he doesn't want to he doesn't his whole thing was he. Didn't want to reveal the mystery right. I just wanted to continue so he would have been happy. Just you know coming up with all sorts of reasons and I think we probably would have gotten a little frustrated as viewers. I think so. Yeah so I think this is kind of a no Winston Areo really right right and I love the the tragedy. They're in a finding who did it. I think it was a fantastic vehicle. For Ray Wiser Elisa talent so think as viewers we did win a little bit As we told well it ended. Well the Laura Palmer right it it was. It was as worry it was as horrific as it could have possibly been it was. It was her father that murdered and raped her. I mean there's nothing worse than that mm-hmm which again now when we think about the fact that you know. ABC is owned by Disney and was the family channel for awhile. That's strange to think about time But this is pre Disney. Though it was it was pretty isn't it. Yeah so Leeann. There's no way you would see twin peaks on ABC Today Eh. It needs to be on Disney. How great without? Oh that'd be so funny. Yeah so I think. That's I think that's the main gene. The main thing I recommended for you eraserhead no and I. I wonder too if David Lynch hadn't gotten so pissed off about all all of the network involvement if we would have been spared things like little nicky or I. I don't necessarily want to say James James Saga because the James Hurley luggage. I just like I said I think if David Lynch for a little less pissed off about it we might have been spared little nicky. We are reminded inspired to Pine Weasel. I mean just little goofy things like with Ernie. Yeah yeah that kind of stuff. So yeah just the kind of the the Post Laura Palmer you know the the kind. Yeah that four or five episode. Quagmire Lana Lana and the mayor. I mean just laundering. The mayor. That's anything with Dick Trimming. I think we might have been spared that although Dick Trimming did have a purpose for for characters we love. I mean they did bring Indian Lucy back together. This is true brought them Oh closer together but But Yeah I think that's my main take on it. I think that's a great question next question. What would have been similar to season three free? So essentially how it season two it would have been slower. It would have been. It would have been that really slow pace that like. I said you think we've gotten more scenes like the old waiter or your this stuff. That kind of Lynch indulged himself in. Yeah old waiter Diane End Gordon. Smoking right sweeping over green onions. I think we would have. I think we would've seen more of that. It would have been the pace would have been a lot slower and of course we could have done anything like this being on ABC. But as we've seen in we've seen more nudity. We've seen more violence. We've seen more blood. We've seen more gruesome nece and I don't feel like it's gruesome for the sake of gruesome in Eli ally. Ross away I think David Lynch does is it makes it. He makes a gruesome to really show. You how horrible this side of the dimension really is yeah and I think it does have as hard as as hard as it is to watch. Sometimes I think it makes a little more sense than other sort of gratuitous for lack of a better term torture porn that I've seen in other types of things I don't feel like David Lynch should be on some sort of watchlist for for being sexually aroused by violence or no. I think it's I think it serves a little bit more of a purpose but yeah I think I think there are other directors. You can probably make make that argument for. Yeah I think one of them. Maybe David censure a little bit. French are a little bit even though he's a great director. Yeah yeah pitcher singers grade but but but is pretty messed up at times so yeah yeah I definitely you know Kinda give him the side I don't you he's just saying here alone in a room with David fincher. You know you might WanNa just Kinda keep your eye out stint. That's saying when you may not have yeah mark continues he goes. I think the thing that attracted me as much as the mystery is. That Lynch seems to have an approach like developed an idea and see where it leads against a rich and textured and stylish background. I think that's I think I think that's very pure in that. Twin twin peaks is a good example. That at a high level of puts us in parentheses organic creativity describing. I don't think so. That's a good one. Sorry sorry people probably's Sorry people probably say the same things already also. What percent do you agree with a four hour explanation on youtube any signs it thanks Leland Palmer so For our experts would that okay all right so I had to do a research on this because I was not immediately the aware of this so I took to the interwebs. I went all type type K did you look at the Google's I went to the googles and I realized that he was talking about. There's a four and a half hour youtube video and it's called twin peaks and this is an all cavs here actually explained and then parentheses no really and it's by a guy named twin perfect or or at least or at least a youtube site imprint channel named twin perfect. And what does the twin perfect is. Apparently it's someone who For those who aren't from apparently goes through like really thought provoking explanations videos of like movies TV. TV shows whatever in this case. Did this guy did a four and a half hour youtube video so needless to say I didn't and watch all four and a half hours because okay I have a live and we have podcast for that so but you know so I did kind of Skim through Pruitt and essentially what it boils down to an feel free to correct me. If I'm wrong about this it feels a little cynical nickel to me. Okay what what his theory. At least the the his. It's Kinda presented almost like a thesis a four four and a half hour thesis that twin peaks the return is essentially the audience's perception of what twin peaks season three should be like that. It's it's it's filled with like bad fan ideas ideas and It doesn't quite you know it kind of deconstructs the Fan Desire Zeier for explanations in the original twin peaks series at at all sense but I would disagree three because with two twin because season three is so there's so much content in season three. That is not related to the original series. That I don't think it does. It does anything to satisfy fans who may we have had fans stories. I mean and also it's not what any of US would have wanted. None of us would have thought body would be car. Nobody wants audrey to be in whatever dimensional regional coma. She's in But apparently but apparently according to this guy that was intentional that was intentional. By Lynch to kind of deconstruct fanned the expectations of what twin peaks should be so. I don't agree with it either. Yeah I it I I. Don't I don't know I don't know David Lynch. But this guy totally connects everything like he. He says he spent two years. Here is working on this thing and but it but it comes off as this this idea in his head that that it's essentially Lee this big like almost like a circle jerk for fans you know that that. Yeah I don't and it and it Kinda comes off as this you know like almost you know that the like breaking the fourth wall little bit that the fans are projecting getting what they're making twin peaks this reality their idealized version of it and so he goes through. He tries to to show various scenes whatnot to try to prove his theory that this is the case makes a strong argument for it but from what I saw. It just seems like it's really stretching hard to fit the narrative more than it is actually explaining. What's going on because I know in my in my opinion? I don't think you explain twin peaks. No you don't even as with pigs and a lot of what David Lynch comes up with. T-bond that's the thing is i. That's the thing I think about. I don't know David Lynch but I think David Lynch is going to do what David Lynch's GonNa do right. And I don't think that David Lynch just is knowing what I just based on what I've heard him say in interviews and knowing what I know about his frustration with having a network like we were talking about just a minute ago having elven network influence with the original series. I don't feel like David Lynch would let that much outside. Influence influenced Louis Him. And I don't feel like he's that teddy and or vindictive with his fans I think I don't think so either but that's that's kind of the general take from that from this video. I think that it's almost like you know the someone presented on made a comment in the comments. Actually like that. What it boils down into this is twin peaks the revenge and see? I don't think he's that vindictive or petty either I think he might. I could see him. Maybe wanting to say okay. Fans want Cooper to be okay and they want to know what happened to Cooper which is pretty much all that fans really wanted. But I don't think he's going to do the will they get a load of what I give them. I don't think he's I don't think that's what he did I think he yeah I just. I don't think he's that petty or vindictive. I don't I don't I don't either because what we know about Lynch what we've from talking about all the various documentaries memories and stuff. If feels more like that he he leaves things open up to interpretation. He doesn't really care he he doesn't care what you think and he likes the fact that you are willing to get on the ride with him if you're willing to get on the ride with him but if you're not he doesn't miss you. Yeah so I don't don't like I said I just don't feel like he's not offended. Yeah I don't either and I think it's just more of in this case. It's it's a super twin peaks fan going down the rabbit hole way too deeply. Yeah and connecting making seeing a lot of connections that. Aren't there sleep. Yeah Yeah so what I'll do. I'll I'll post the video on our facebook page. You get everybody else out there in in podcast land feel free to check it out if you haven't already but you know see what so you think. Maybe you agree with the Guy But from what I I saw you know. Just kind of skimming through the video Watching scenes here and there yeah and then and then watching the conclusion his you know his final presentation I'm not sold on it personally. Okay okay might take so you may have a different take on it and I totally respect you if you do. Maybe after four hours he will brainwash us. Yeah I got. I think the intention was just a wear people down with four and a half hour video. You sat through this. You know I don I already whatever yes like a fine I agree with with you. Just shut up already right fine you can just go to bed please. I'm sure like you know there's something like this in Guantanamo Bay perhaps And we're GONNA wear you down and go but but You know what you will and I just thought I'd put it out there. Especially since mark brought it Yup thank you so and so and hope that thanks for listening to the PODCAST and hope you're enjoying it. So thanks for writing in. We really appreciate we want to hear from everybody like Like mark so if you want to be like mark please write to us go split podcast at G. Dot com that's goes with podcast. GMAIL.COM DOT COM or on twitter at ghost would cast on the twitter machine or on facebook of course goes with the twin peaks. podcast where of course. I'm in a post that video so you can check that out there so hey great excuse to go like us on the on the facebooks other than that Zan where can they reach you on the interwebs I am on the facebook Zan sprouse and I am on the twitter's in the instance as Oud anex nineteen eighteen right and What about you Charles? Well of course. I'm Charles skaggs on the twitter machine. Were at Charles gags on Instagram facebook. Charles skaggs in Ohio and my blog a Geeky things ready for twenty twenty. The Dan Coffee and hot. We're talking about also we're talking about here on ghost would including of course twin peaks David Lynch stuff. Maybe the occasional Dune funk owes all kinds of comic book Scifi News News my other podcasts for Southgate Media Group including Let's see what do I do. Oh yeah tighten talk. TINES podcast Do Jesse Jackson where we we wrap that up We've finished up between Titan season. Two Hiatus on that as we wait for doom patrol season to to show up on DC universe. But in the meantime we you did the Phantom Zone podcast that I also do a Jesse where we just recently finished reviewing the watchmen series on. HBO which was fantastic. Oh my God. It was so good highly recommended so it was so good. So if you enjoyed watchmen and you really should watch it. You know like a lot of people were like. Oh Oh you know it's just you know you know. Add more doesn't approve of it so therefore I'm not going to give it the time of day. Well that's your loss really because it's fantastic series. Alan Alan Moore not approve or do del Mar just wash his hands of it well. He's just washed his hands of everything. That's the thing Alan Moore and Alan Morrison Disease. Gibbons is involved Dave Gibbons US involved elmore says I wrote the book. This isn't my book end of story. Line yeah you know so but the thing is though it takes uses the original graphic novel From the eighties as a as a template and it's essentially thirty years it's a thirty year sequel ooh Yeah and it's very well told it's it was one of those things that could have crashed and burned horribly or or been amazing and thankfully turn out to be amazing. I'd be curious to find out what Dave thinks about it i. I have not talked to him about this series but it would be. It'd be interesting as his. He's listed as co Creator and he has an executive producer credit so he's contributed some artwork for. Yeah he didn't. Yeah that was we were. We were watching and we're like Oh that that is David there so so yeah Dave's like you know. Well that's Nice Allen but I'M GONNA associate myself with this. But Dave Gibbons wants to get paid yo who thought that in two thousand nineteen. Yeah I would be saying that. Two of the best things as I saw this year had had Don Don Johnson in them. Bright I don- Johnson surprisingly good in that he's great in this and he was great and knives out so it's like who would have thought aww been like Don Johnson's great in these movies. It's kind of a little mini career. Resurgence for Don Johnson. No good for him fee. That's right that's right. So so. If you enjoyed watchmen please check us out on Fan Zone podcast that we just denied it ball talking about that show. We're also talking in the big crisis on infinite earths crossover on the CW with all their DC universe shows We're GONNA HAVE DJ Nick from next up everywhere coming back. He helped us out on part one of the crisis Our little crisis discussion. He's going to be back for part two. Do we're trying to do that when I come back from Cleveland next week and so stay tuned for that also of course next everywhere the doctor who podcast where we're now back in doctor who series twelve brand new episodes of doctor who and started off really. Well okay great now with a great eight to partner called spy fall with a brand new master. I saw that there was a new master in a really inspired casting. In my opinion you master spoil who it is if you haven't seen it but but we've already reviewed the the The two part of the first two episodes so we have them up just posted episode part to today so please check those out We're having a ball and I Know Zan. You're obviously very busy person. So but whenever you want obviously you're welcome to come and join US next up everywhere. I would love to have open invitation mutation to you whenever you find your self with a little free time. I said we're we're auto episodes so I gotta find out. I gotta find another adversary that I like. I was just saying we're GONNA hook you up with a new monster. I know I know you know I I like the dollar but you know who doesn't Jesse. Actually Jesse is wrong with Jesse Jesse. All of these people doesn't he doesn't like he doesn't like Canine. He doesn't like the dialects. So Jesse Blessing. Yeah Yeah. Canine really the great dog. Ever come on. Here's here's the thing that's the thing with with with Jesse and everybody else who started started in on doctor who with Eccleston and Dan get dull. That's my theory sticking to. It knew it was. It was a very distorted what I was saying. It it was all those It's Jesse and everybody else. WHO started with ECCLESTON? They don't like the dollar the Watson it's the whole new versus classic who fandom so what about those who love it all and I know that's my that's me I'm yeah so I'm like behind but still still I love it and if you're one of those people that you know they you either watched last season and you weren't impressed by the rioting or Jodie whittaker her thankfully you've been completely proven wrong by this season because the writing is definitely better so far we had to strong episodes in Jodie whittaker phenomenal because we now have a full overarching storyline. Jodie whittaker you just need to go watch broad church and then shut your mouth. She's in across. She's she's really good. I mean you know award nominated actress so yeah definitely recommended bald next up everywhere everywhere right now so. Please check us out there. Next time I go swimming. We're going to obviously tried once again to do from Z to a probably like a part one part two you guessing depending on how much dependent off we got going on. Yeah apparently there's a lot of behind the scenes material. Yep so there's like two discs the of new material on this so we might have to break this up again but you know if something happens. That doesn't work out. You know we're always come back. Oh no we're talking about. We're going to do part ten. Didn't we know we're we're not we're going to start back up with part ten. Oh we'll start we're not so we're not starting on a weird number all starting in the winter I thought you were ending unaware number or even number okay. I had completely wrong my mistake so so all right so then yeah so we'll try Once again to do from a then after we finish from ZD whether it's one or two then we'll do lower is the one part of twenty five. He's still going to. We still have got nine hours of this. I keep getting distracted by Babu Frick. I'll glance up and I see Babu. frigging in behind leans in on a monitor screen. Just going hey make it worse to actually turn it up. I hear it a little bit. Yeah and that goes on for hours and hours I. It's a ten hour loop I wonder if they use that to Torture people probably yeah probably early played elliot outside of McDonald's and really bad areas so that people don't break in something. Yeah exactly the scourge shoe people away I guess yeah all right so So so that's what we're talking about you know. Obviously we're back for twenty twenty and we've got a whole new like box set to talk about Shariff we talk about. We got a lot to talk about. We talk about you know that we've got to finish up the return we talked Mojo and drive. You want to do that and whatever else kind of POPs up along the way every lynch thing we figure out. Yeah so so if you thought you were rid of US guess again. We're back now we're here and Zan thank you so much for joining me. I had a ball. Thank you Charles again. Definitely cheering evening. Up and Everybody thank you for listening. We'll see you next time right here. Ghost with twin peaks podcast eighteen point take long taste.

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Every time you come down to was call to lock. was he down there like fighting five kids so I just hi Joe. He was going crazy. You can't get by me. They were run by what he's GonNa fight him he's just don't want him into the locker. Is it kicking him into the locker. And then so the one the one one story real quick we flew. We came out here to La My CNN play today in on a plane ride there or whatever us oh I was demand and my high school coach was just trying to continue that buzz going right so he knows Sam was the next do so anytime. I did an interview about me anything. He will always as Plug Sam right so my point guard Martini Fridge freezers. Probably the second best nonprofit. He was the second best player on our team right. And he was a junior like Sam but he was never given. And I'm Noah pub so we on the plane and we all sit in like an emergency exit row and we in front of a salmon in the back and fridges like talking shit about Sam. I'm like that either. So we go to the game so we can fly here go to bed at night. Wake up the next day. The game now east coast time so the game is like seven seven eight o'clock at night 'cause we why are we being Kalemie in the mall all day. She wouldn't chick all kinds of stuff right. Go to the game had no energy but the end of the day tomorrow. The story is I never get my staff. I like twenty nine. Sixteen Eight Something like that Sandwich Center right. This man had like two points no rebounds sounds so did he played the whole game which is box out and not rebound mad at Fridge. 'cause I was talking about him on the plane a dollar so mad at him after the game. I ain't GonNa lie there point. It really affected me has release afford very long time after that we had no business in the modern day just because he didn't want to remain eh throwing them lives you. Just throw it back. What are you doing? The same with Sam was definitely a character active. I was surprised he made it so long. As I don't think he's GonNa make the League just because his interest was so many other things you know what I'm saying. We got to the League. He wanted them do multitask. is you know he builds computers now is like that. You know what I'm saying. He wanted them type of dues or whatever but I. I was surprised that he made to Louis. Not really good years you winter high school or college was you would've went to if you WANNA win. Bri Georgia Tech and the only reason I was going to take like Alanna. I love Atlanta and They took me to magic city from Viz for your visit to the on my visit to a change in my life. I've never seen them before so I asked him. I was like so we can come to this all the time. They always say all the time. Ask Heck no nowhere else. I was looking the version that he got what I was going to Georgia Tech. My grandmother had just moved down there. You know what I'm saying so I was cool. I mean I'm taking my grandma his girl then or whatever so I was going to go down to Atlanta with the major goes straight out of high school. I was because they told me I was going to be a lottery pick. I wasn't going to go if I WANNA. We'll be a lottery. Pick I WANNA go right. I got deeper how you pick from my work house. They said I was going to go through with fourteen eh so I was thinking like eight nine rain right but I got deeper closer to number one right why What made you WANNA go? Who told you you should go bro? I didn't go all the way back into my whole history with the game or whatever but like I start playing slam basketball. It's house freshmen in highschool. You made me play. You know what I'm saying growing up I was always Lou Overweight Hella clumsy. You know saying was not coordinated coordinated. I WANNA play. You know what I'm saying to play my mom all the time. She's beat me all the time I just I was terrible bro. I couldn't put it together like later ball a way to beat up. I had so when I got the highschool by from I was a Nick Fan. Nicer lovejoy. We all you. You know what I'm saying but at the same time which I never was like in the game I wasn't my oriented hoop dreams. No what I'm saying. I want to play what I wanted to do. was Go to Notre Dame to play football. You play for the New York giants. If I had a plan in sports play football I played football even my freshman football. I was Nice Bro would you. I was tough. I play defensive. Any offensive tackle us on the line I was I told you I saw you know what I'm saying so I was out on that line but I had to growth spurt I star huping. You know what I'm saying so like I said freshman year. I plan a freshman team in Roselle New Jersey. Nobody ever heard of it. They call me big day out the name now. The right play. Whatever started one game out of the Nineteen Games went undefeated that year? But not because of me I transferred to Saint. PAT'S WATCH WII transferred to Saint Patrick's because somebody wanted me. I guess it was like Yo. Come here and play. I went did play. Sophomore year was terrible when I went to Dita's camp I didn't get I. I didn't even get a real. Invite these talking about what happened. was you know how some players get. You know what I'm saying. So they had some open spots so my literally my high school coach. Call me and say the opening spots they got to open spot local. Come on and that gave you experience of seeing some bigger exactly so but but the thing about this car ride with my high school coach when we're going going up there where he's literally telling me in the cars like remember when Nice Guy Right Joe we gotta find somebody replace him saying we gotta find another star on the the team. I need you to help me find my when we won't be here. We're GONNA be working some of these kids who we can come to the school. Did you cry Bro. He he got me a spot in the camera. Recruit broke right play with us also to be a coach. You know how this worked up so I get it like you said get their big or whatever but I ended up making a little all star team. So that's when I got on the met just because I made that that next year my high school season. How I got Margaret? How I became out Harrington for real? Was I bus. Lamar ONUM ASS IN SOUTH JERSEY. Lamar was the do in our toward him. A new As hope and that's how I got on scene that's when I went from top one hundred top twenty five at got him I got him in like a hoop summit thing where everybody was Nass came on. And that's when I became out Harrington in San what I'm saying so back to back to your questions like now go go to my senior year so going into my senior at left the camp and I was the number one player in the country. I was just like shift. I finished his year off number one country. I'm going everybody does going says I didn't really have a lottery number in my head. I know more plan to contract get drafted and even when I went through the process. I was hoping to be allowed to repay to. Do you know what I'm seeing Orlando. Magic was supposed to pick me. Obviously they didn't and whatever has been held to pay for them ever since you know what I'm saying that's how it went so really bro. Like my Momma. I had to talk to my mother about going. And obviously you know that paperwork. They got assigned because we not of age or whatever anyone sign it she just like what you're going to play with grown men. Then she liked look like even that good she worked on. It's on you know what I'm saying. So she will. I have a mom that was all the all the games with my clothes on among works Ah ooh I felt. My mom didn't really believe how our who might leave baby. I think you need to go shower. I'll leave. She started crying. She's crying. I'm like Ma knowing I'm doing my job it would be in the top pitsea like we're talking about. I remember like we know their host. Yes we went to everything. Go to McDonald's all of this stuff to gain the you know. US USA. To who might matter of fact we was in a gang with dirt dear. His big pledged coach. I want the fire on the coast. burping players like you play. MIGRA SAR play. And then he'd play his Guy Right Ronald Curry basketball somewhere L.. Hate on him but he was. You know what I'm saying. He was was booed Williams. Yeah blue and the head coach. Though who was he was Buddha head coach. Who loves I love closest? Whoever were but AL got busy in the game? I ain't got the plan who some with dark bust is and that's the game that put him on the map. Tanguay dirt on his enough said. I didn't really. I know who he was. I don't even see what I'm saying like I wasn't all in the hoop like that. You know I had no idea who he was but he was none of us none of us in a heard of him at all. None of us. We didn't know who work here with the blonde hair flowing. Oy when did you get into the rankings and stuff like the two seater rankings. After it was after Dita's can't I was like the top seventy five to one hundred played in there. Where was I got? Lamar was kind of you know doing whatever I got. Lamar I went to the top. Twenty five Eh Eh. You started so now. You've got a couple twenty minutes before Nike Kill Does so now my top fifteen top twenty in between there and then that is also so. That's forty five or whatever you put on your boots too because we all everything county inside they help you ball like when he was coming up. Who's the guys that you were seeing like man he nice Coming up Tim Tim. Thomas Town Hall played leaves. That's why I wouldn't number three like its myths about ten times. What I'll say this black killing yet? Chill he it's so easy to that he was cooling failure. One of the one of one of the funniest teams like Tim never had a bad day. To- come in smiling dodging Saddam. Good feel like Nabal never never in a hurry always smooth chilling like what's that say like you know what I'm saying what's good like later. I know but I'm talking about never had a bad day for like Tim Thomas to talk to a Tim Koby Odyssey so cold. You say Tovia Kobe. I told her I bumped bumped into him at the University of Maryland and I was walking out the door. I was walking in the door. He's walking out the door. Kinda hit me. Or whatever like what up he introduces. He thought what's up Kobe. I would've bro. You know what I'm saying like so he was cool like that in high school right Shame Daddy was kind of Nice by just what he did everything so he didn't fit that mold. You must respect to say they hate us. Shame I hey this game to heighten Ayu. I seen him like the work. You know what I'm saying Who I saw do work in Obviously Lamar Odom. Yeah Awry We. WHO's allowed WHO's a lot of Nice dudes remember? Calendar me added Eh. Data's a lead elevates valley out of Maine was out. Give them bucket boy. You hear me is big he worked. Who was the person that you saying that you wanted like mimic your game after you know so remember saw. Wasn't that good right insulin highschool so I never had. I never planning department's like Jordan. I Love Your Dad. Never once had it play out like Bob probably she dog Oakley Oakley was my favorite like Oakley he his game was just limited enough that I feel like I play like that. You know what I'm saying now. Once I got good Scottie. Pippen was the Guy Scotty was was like I wanted to always wanted to impact the entire game and that was on my head. Coach always told me that he never gave me prosperous scoring all the time saying we have always about all the other stuff. I never said nothing about scoring ever. It was always about all intangible little stuff here and there and So Scotty was the guy that I was like. You know if anybody wanted to play like it was produced in Cognac France Hennessy. He is the world's best-selling Konia and supports. Those who never stop. Never sell enjoy an amazing cutter Hennessy. Very special today and always remember over to drink responsibly. So tell me how was it when you you get drafted right then you go live with. Ad Antonio Tonio Day now. I I play the best to og big on anybody advocacy. Somebody a young Dude Stan where we send somebody like. Ad Because ideas and super the solid big brother. But I'm I'm not I'm saying I say if anybody I'm just trying to figure out how you still. How did you do what the only one in the history than ever did that? I never heard nobody in the history of the game got drafted and went to stay with somebody. uh-huh team like great This is what happens. Yeah listen so maybe it'll make sense. I'm GonNa tell you in my house. I know right with his wife and kids and everything he had a big ass house and I had the whole downstairs so the downstairs was like a bedroom sauna movie theater the whole living room area another kitchen so he had like some crazy crystal their own crib downstairs. The main curfew. y'All I ain't GonNa lie one Ta John You had no no no one time his wife says something about coming in just like really really Kendra. After this happened locked I got drafted. It was a lockout so remember this derailed lockout back only thirty games so we came back after the February. We came back after normally. So what happened was I was living in Atlanta with Steph. The whole towns I was out there train with stuff marbury right then. I'll tell you what I think about it. Like in December is when they start thinking the lockout was about to end right so reggie mate everybody come back to Indiana. Started getting ready for the season because remember they just lost oss game seven to the Bulls might just retired so now they think is their time they definitely rise teams in the League so let's start having workouts and everything right so everybody come in town. The only two people that did not come was three people that didn't come was Dale Davis. Jalen rose and Travis best love and in that all twelve plays anybody that was going to be on the rookie. You know going to try for the team everybody was zip so what happened was since I had my Braille yet. You know what I'm saying. He was like just stay with me. Why you do the training or whatever? He's like cool my wife cool or whatever so it goes from December all the way to February so now. I'm ingrained in the creative bro. Where you're going to send me melt season about to be out crib? Suppose the good. So that's why happy because I didn't have to get a crib because it was a lockout. 'cause they were him during the workout then ended in February was going to be over in. What may or whatever so you just like just less leading rock cow? Just stay here and that's high having believe me. Yeah I did not want to stay there but it just made a lot of sense that out too big. David sat out a mangled by two things. Like to say me right so one one time he saved me because I like is huge. Having been homeys right first time when I come home I had his big box at the crib right right so it was like I opened it up. It's all these books or whatever rice. I'm looking at him. Numbers in the book. And all this stuff whatever somebody with I'll take put it up in the closet like two weeks later. I come home again and then tonio sitting at the table with all them same books I has looked like he took the books that I had right. So I'm looking at them like when you get those from. He's like they got him into mils like totally like the books I got downstairs. He was like you know what these all right. I'm like what he's like taxes some. which do you like? I'm feeling how taxes or whatever so I got the same book I ain't nothing about taxes financial which you sent me to stop and then tell me to sign up in the way grabble. It had to sign my taxes right so when he saved me from. He taught me how to pay taxes. Or then I had to pay taxes in the second thing was that one day man Reggie Miller so Reggie Miller and and Mark Jackson dog like used to pick on me about about everything so whatever. We're if I wear lip gloss lip gloss lip gloss. Be With anything like everything does there. So but Mark Jackson off the court was my man he made me go everywhere with him everywhere. not engano heating or no way without though we had that relationship off the Cobra on him. And Reggie with just Rodney about everything so one day man. They was on me Sota. They got me to the point where I wanNA fight why literally I wanted to fight on my fuck this tomorrow when I go to practice Reggie say anything still. That's how much reggie got under my skin now. Love Reggie too big home. This is how they treat rookie right so I get home and you could tell something was wrong. You'd like POPs. Might Mike possibly sit down. So what's going on so I think he saw in practice to you. Know what I'm saying I'm telling them on the stand like while mark so fake a you know what I'm saying homeboy and then on and then we're gonna Koi Reggie and I promise you ready say anything but still off on. He's he's like y'all fellow. Let me just stop you there. That's not a good idea by somebody else. Not chatty satellite. That's not a good idea belly. You know what I'm saying. So he definitely taught me all the Clintons Upright have been out the league stole Reggie said but now our year re I mean with Antonio man he just he told me about being professional being on time. You know days where you know. I'll get to allay start. He'd be on me like you just got in any here man. No nothing seems Oh you know I don't need to ever wake up. You get mine out this house already. You know what I'm saying. So he told me a lot from that perspective like how to be professional. What you'd rather practice? Will you told you to get over four. I'll be going did add bro. I hardly ever seen them in the morning. The House Bra Bingo Bingo. He's still sleep. We need when we now. You need Bro. Any details sales because the two years I started with Larry Bird and then got Z.. Z. Your back-to-back H. O.. Active back to our different states against in Indiana three. You weren't even there was some you know. I don't buy them all place. In India not knotted added regularly Indiana right Indian state right down the I remember the thing Jay. Nash gave him a five ally. Game of was Z. was like no shakiest. Hey it means grow his hair. You'll Zeke me. I'm telling you man Zeke pre-game talk about the fight. He the fight somebody you know. He Crazy Braga stories on him. In that locker room he tried to kill j rose one day. Try to kill Jalen Angle. Jalen was the remember how you remember. How Matt Barnes Fake Kobe? Kobe is grilled. That's jailing played Zeke through speakers atom speak- speaker that on my chuck them at him. He never moved with the speakers. I came right here and drop because they connected Oh connected promise data hidden sons He. He did not flinch a ninety second. It just chuck alleged Eh. He blocked his mind. I remember I was DOC does remain O.`Neil during a preseason we play la so in out amid like like at the half court online. I'm like Waffen a bull one mo time I stuck it all the way out there and he caught mice in like I failed like died died in the hung myself. Real right fill out of bounce. The ball hit me. I feel like he got me back back. Yeah I feel like he got I. I will say about J. O.. J. Always to get every every he didn't care about Did Not get dunked on a lot thing to go. Get the office defensively. But he didn't get the he'll get the props he deserved. We've just ask Ryan about how like how good right Oscar contender because of J. O.. Was Dead I think that he just came up. In that era with powerful was running game because remember it was him you know. He was in Dante Hazy. He he was in that mix are he was in that mix Like how two point guards are right now so it was a couple of united we always think port point guards like Damn Kimba Michael Collie ideas. They stupid nice but it just so many Ziebel use the boys man like take us to see you go against the Dunkin's Casey's putting them twenty and tens of every year like that's big j o to a Ah Dot J. O.. Mario Brothers you know straight out of high school we need all the college stuff is way advanced wasted time. Uh We went to get the money everybody money. You got the opportunity to play with another guy. This part off attorney to straight out of high school Google Attorney and he never get the chance to blossom. Oh I know exactly what senator. He's like K. D. he's won the Katie versions into the Iraq Katie. DNA from all being the tall dribbling guys had a ratchet making shoot away latte out. Shoot that ball favor jump shooter. WHO's a figure flatow? Shoot that ball. I'm so his. His his problems started in high school. Bro Mike they country picking Mississippi breath he from the country part where when his niece well like his brother grabbing and take out the fluid. What I'm saying and You know the story or he goes. He went in for some type of regular surgery and woke up with microfracture surgery. Like he was never the same hyphen and the back. Then microfracture surgery. I got my greg. Sergio Monday right but it was after we see in the Mari Comeback in get L. Storage Jason Kidd Or microfracture surgery and get all star. You know what I'm saying right. That's when I got mine kind of come back. Yeah Eh. But when he got it was early and he just never was the same. But I'll tell you what male he's the outshoot Larry Bird all the time only person in Germany I can do it. I mean Reggie Reggie wouldn't even out shoe Larry like they weren't really shoot. 'cause they had that respect they played with each other against still had. Reggie like that old school error. CASH HOLD ON J B would beat them and shoot it all the time every time. Jump this I'll yeah. Yeah now he hobbs. He had it all either leg dribble He had it. All Bro. Just couldn't get right these I I won't talk to you. See what they call a rookie right up telling you is a call market Jack Eh. Icicle Market Reggie Dick and balls to the young guy. Got Bigger balls right so they used to call him because his rickie got there and he had a little on the issue and he you know hanging on the court because you know he came in remembered most gone most points at McDonald's games they're fun rate yeah so he was supposed to be that do but he couldn't get on the court with us a little bit better. So daisy daisy. They compare this kid Garnett ticket stubs. The Bro that's what I'm saying like think about your own guys. You can look up out of foul. Say Right so he wa they get you to that point because they they picked relentless bro these was relentless. Basic call them tickets stuff. I the whole of the I have to ask you to talk about protege. My man had his own shoe. You might remember remember this. I remember doing work man with a work. This man had his own shoe froze Bradfo. Big baller big baller brand. When I I was proud of what what was the proposal product? You'll protege. I used the the the the street in the garden. They had to join on lot. The live via were right on both sides of the. How did they happen? How did that come about man so once again one of your best friends my man star Dr Berry Berry you know he did the star everything or whatever and you know our soda did or whatever and I saw the impact that he had with it right but it quickly fell because the company that he did it with they cashed out off of it they took it catch on Indonesia's Berry Stephen Berry so stephen? Barry's whoever bought the company boarded to like to just get rid of it so crazy. That's when you realize big money stuff. Two hundred million dollars to get rid of it so in a happened he never could get back. You never get his foot and back and then he was out the league. You know what I'm saying but what I saw was I sorted the impact that it really was having our communities and kids and stuff like that you know what I'm saying and what you know the one thing I you know i. I'll say that you know I'm always in tune into what's going on around me and especially just what's going on in the community. You know what I mean and even I remember growing up like you know. I remember eighth grade year. Boy Shoes I was too small. You know what I'm saying because I really wanted to make the Horiuchi go the green ones that little thing around your ankle. Whatever and like literally they were really too small like a week into school? And I've been my mom's making me rocked. Him joints all like most of the school year painfully. I make them smart shoe. Do you know what I'm saying and I remember her. I well we can go get your knees and they wanted the right. Don't you know what I'm saying. Yeah exactly you know what I'm saying. I am definitely not doing now offer. This is Joyce before my feet out you. You know what I'm saying it'd be but but what it did was it. You know in enlighten me that you know us as athletes whatever the power that we had and like you know the way that we make make people feel you know what I'm saying knowing that they could be part of us our lifestyle. You know what I'm saying. So with Steph shoe show me was that you have a shoe. That's you know. Twenty thirty already forty bucks and if his push endorsed by the right person a kick it still feel empowered wearing that shoe and not feel like he went nuts. You know what I'm saying so everybody. Everybody can't afford joins. Everybody can't afford the dope his Nike's you know what I'm saying but there is a middle America where I think there's a lane is I don't know why these kids don't do it. Especially now with social media the way that we can control so much of our own marketing. I don't understand why some of these top guys don't make their own brands. Take the you know what I'm saying. I think I think that way better resources than now compared to when the world is open to us now so now you can get the same do they. Manufacture Turnpike is to make yours you and you tell that story like this is the same factory that the joins come out of the understand. What I'm saying? We can control the narrative. Now you know what I'm saying so I don't understand why do who's don't do that because you know you make fifty million dollars. But his over ten years from Nike is potentially you could make ten million fifty million in one year dependent dependent shoe high go viral. You never know you know what I'm saying. That's the type of opportunity out here if God is wake up and just be more. Be More of an entrepreneur spirit. You know what I'm saying. I think he's a Lotta guys that cash out. 'cause I mind would have worked. I just had bad business partners. You know what I'm saying. Kmart entrepreneurs grow spirit back then Dan. You're young I'm telling Ya. Que Mart picked us up. They detest always. Give us the whole thing bro Sears. He's about to do a Dylan series. A higher end protege. A yeah exactly but I had a bad business partner. He did some talk about it Ravitz. Who which even worse you know what I'm saying? Somebody that looked like me Dan over. You know what I'm saying. But that's it's part of learn you live and learn to keep pushing you know you play for the warriors have like some characters on their warriors team. You know we knew all your guys so you know it was. It was like seeing. Y'All like enjoy the way I hope and then I had a coast Don Nelson. You know what I'm saying. Who Finished V.? So creative right drawing the line stuff drunk. Yeah you're going to go drunk making stuff up. He going to come up with something and I and exciting idea something big in two thousand seven by a winning their first round series from number one seat. What was their season season like like? What was it the series like so that that season was that season was was one to remember for me? So I went from Atlanta. Signed as a free agent in in In Indiana back in Indiana in my mind. I'm like I'm never leaving Indian gangs. I had all accessing Indiana went to Atlanta Lanna and won a combined thirty games in two seasons sixty two year before in Indiana. So I got back to Indiana Indiana J. O.. Was this stack was there You know Damore Tinsley crew. I'm coming back. I'm getting my sixth man role back we go. You know what I'm saying and Goes plant you know what I'm saying. Stack had to shoot out in training camp. So that's the first thing that just started to spiral and And then you know we was just a little wider. We we forgot we was NBA players a little bit and conducting ourselves. We was partying again. We was nice right. We knew we go wayne gains so we just went so hard off the court and you know you can just tell like things kinda come into a point ahead they did they continue to let us act like this and You know one day. I'm at practice. And Don Donnie. Walsh calls me upstairs the things some routine whatever in he was just like I traded analysis like what he's like I traded you. I was like I I just signed back I just. I just built a how gutted a house every day. I just moved in three days before that. They didn't call me up there so he's like you're going to have to sell it whatever whatever I don't have to sell it. I respect that Doug because you know you're right like they'll have you all day practice there By smile and you'll see to do who pose a call you and tell you that so you get to the Korea. Yeah you just got traded like I just did it that that fast as I left the judge like he gave respect auto. He's a master. He come from now. He cut from that cloth he wanted to tell you. The way for man to sit in his office would know likes to smoke cigarettes like he co he just different. Oh right so so. We get traded to Golden State. And I know forgiving. I get there the first thing. I ninety one sesame he's like. Why don't you rebel more in house? I get like seven rebounds. You should be getting ten. He's like I think it's because you overweight so that was my first encounter whim literally you. I I think you overweight. You need to lose like ten fifteen pounds or whatever so he put me on his schedule like me and be used to have to weigh in every week. You know what. I'm saying Chuck tracking our weight but but we get there bro. They was they was in the maybe seven spot when we got there was playing pretty good. They traded Troy Murphy. Mike Dunleavy Amy. Who else brought us in? We got their beady was hurt. When we first got this so we play like the first three games without beatty? I think we all three games beatty comes back. We go go to for five out of the next couple. Whatever so now you know now you get towards the end of the season and I think we needed to go? I think we need to do in sixteen nineteen games to make the playoffs and we did that Shit and we just you guys as you all know that what you call that. That's called momentum momentum. What I'm saying is minimum? You went sixteen out of nineteen games rolling right up. You know what I'm saying. So we took that into the playoffs Nellie had just left Dallas Dallas so he knew everything about Durkee New Orleans tendencies and everything he said would do dirk dated everything he'd say GonNa turn over his left shoulder every time well. He turned over his shoulder every time no matter who was around whenever he turn everybody went from the block on his jump shot so we was blocking his jumper trump. Because you always bring it back and all that make his move spent and we were just blocking autumn saying and dog I honestly I think that now that I know the game and I looked at that series again. I think they messed up was that they played down to us They didn't play how they won. Sixty Day they won't play it all season. Take the way they played to us and I think that if they play big over time you know big wins the more rebounds you get all that that really plays a part into winning mash down us and that was the wrong thing. I remember that could Mark Mark Mark. Maguire working does the Knicks and he was tight with Donny Don Nelson and he got there he got him. He said he tells time one day he was like man he like. He said we got my fucking he was so that was the championship. So I'm telling we went to. WE PLAY UTAH. That's his focus. And all that went to the dump on Oh my Nellie as the coach by once we championship not come telling you. He kicked his feet up after that. It did not matter Bro. When we was in the elimination game it was like also? There's okay. Okay I'm looking like damn now. Li like an armament distinct about stuff like this the relationship. I have and this why I hate him. So we're not limitation game right and I will I played the shit out of me Zach what he said I swear so we in the huddle at shoot around or whatever and he didn't really say nine so you know just like I'm telling you I'm like Oh man like like we win this you you know what I'm saying like we could pull this all down for one. Whatever like we wanna hear that Shit I am not lying elope road all the way up on our live so his relationship was never the same at the Dow always always wanted problems with him. He go after that he couldn't even play with me ever turned up every time you like them. I'm just playing. I'm like don't play with me so you seriously I'm seriously to from here on out. There's no more jokes bro. You're next season. Was Nobody WanNa hit that shit bringing idea me look about because we've every one of us have been in that position before where somebody on something we resolve star Desi like. Don't nobody WanNa hear from you right right now and he did you like this is all we all play with somebody where he aids leads. The thing about it is we really was barely losing. Should every time you know what I'm saying. Johnny everybody was passionate provides in. This is that that was all I wanted to do. Yes yes we hate I shoot us it sitting there talking to his wife he was. I hear you cannot say a joke to me the rest of that whole Nex year period and then when I got when I got traded from what I came to the Knicks I need to sate is because I don't think they know I won't every New York Knicks Fan. Ever need to please. If y'all I don't know how much you do or you don't but I really learned his man this man. I promise. Promise the guy. I don't think my entire time as a neak. I don't remember no teammate. Wanting for the city batted in this man. This man Kei amen when he got God he was pro. He was bob ways to like. Yo I want to be like. He's holding his jersey. I'm looking at my but you've been league too long to be looking at it Damn Jersey like you just got picked us up loss on now. It's on my son Sun City Sun. Joe Five I three games. Mommy could buy burkey but when I tell you he he was the most positive optimistic broke. You ever seen your live missile coming here to possession and get a kick out of the it is time son his comical miss owner is gonNA miss the mom I it was like I try to tell them I was like you know I tried to tape. 'cause you know they're doing one of the worst stretches abuse WanNa see. My friends crushed like I like bro Bro. So optimistic he was like I'm GonNa kill you. Take on Siamese back I'm GONNA be this. Is it this is. I'm broke home. Always wanted to play in New York and Loyd just curious it's like okay now it's like positive like he told. He told me one time he told me. Maybe two times told me third time after that. He's like okay. Okay you'll see. We'll see he came down Orlando a little bit. After that I was in Orlando he was just like and Bro. I was like I don't need to be talked about. I don't want you to revisit this pain. How all over saying he was right he said He? Okay fix it. This thing is all messed up. Tell me he's like you is not is not right. Oh so bad for mobile because it was like you g you are prominently occurred. Nobody come there was more ex and we was. We were still at the bottom of the bottom of the time worst highest nothing when I got. He's like playoffs. Eight seat or something I I I got this Zebo. Ma'am I got traded Zibo income right there. That's why we we fell out Ya. Yeah but I'm GonNa tell you what's crazy though the real quick everything he told me. I told t MAC that next season when he got traded today right the craziest thing though. We gotta know pieces though. We're going to tell you I'm back. I'm feeling good my I bro. You sitting there like I know. I'm Mike break bless I bless. His heart This Guy May. Who is that person gave you problems that I use like man? I really won't see him off this offshoot alone. I just was just with Umbro Ziva. Only one bro. by Larry Putting Shoes on Oh my God Ziebel always the box out on offense and defense. He only ever met that stays on your body the entire time today. You fight three point line. He still on. I'm like why are you why I'm offense. Get off me. That Mitt your that meant he. Relentless Bro don't jump he just just relentless he just carves out space here bucky. He was a bucket bucket. Rebound rebound office at the wrestling. We match the whole time he liked. It was like almost all know you had to play against Reggie Evans. So Reggie another one right but reggiano buckets. Ready to had the game is evoked Zebo. Zibo got that Reggie in them without the while he not as well as Reggie Bush got that same on your body the whole time. So you're gonNA play all night. Like snow plays off but CBO Bucky and other person was Paul pisses. Those only to pose Paul a problem. He's going to be problems. I was but I didn't like him. which made even worse right? I hated him for no. I hate them and I like everybody this way. So we ended up where you're like what you fought on the bench and stuff. I can't believe that you fault. Somebody which was nice. Like in Indiana. Oh when out now so if I had a little scuffle with John How did I believe it is new. Ah I grabbed a What's his name? Oh Pete one time. He tripped me on the open. Cook the Toilet Jawara how MO P two people. That don't anybody when I I say. Fight crazy that Chris Paul Pierce broke his gang was like he's he's like he's like make moves and stuff you kind of think he off-balance body was never off. Now he was shifting. You kinda you Kinda like backup. We think he likes this fall into you. He just was never light. There's your because of what he was saying on. TV Belie- he had a lot of facts like he didn't in create a step back. But you if you played against him in the air he damn show made a popular show featuring and giving people the business it was a problem of of a step back fake game-winner sending people home owner regular like the size step too so that was really popular with the crazy thing about. We all know each other game. Everybody know of our era noted like Paul period. especially if you send them going to step back time every time you cut him off and then if you try to give them a lane to the go to think you're going to meet him there he goes surprise you and you you know. We had a real scouting reports back. Then we scour report pages yeah like four or five pages. I did the whole thing in the League is one page. It's like a quick is nothing compared to what we had like. We knew and we will go over. Tendencies shoot around. You know what I'm saying so I'm like ID emails so when they get the ball here he's GonNa go here every time and we played you for that they don't do none of that now. You know what I'm saying like you said we was forced to always have again What what's what's the story? You always think about where you always tell him you tell me that. He's told me. This story people viewers fellow watches. Watches out the. He's told me this story away from you like I don't know like ten twenty different times because like I say we tight with. This was so long. I'll go ahead and tell them. This is the one so one time we came here to play them or whatever we might have been planning labor whatever was cheesecake factory. The Marina near you. We are you Hi came up. We were just talking about scouting reports or whatever so it came up and we actually what he's seen said by everybody so I went I i. Of course I'm telling so also they say Q.. Do this and the Three D. bowed about open court this data third so I was like what they say about me. The closest is like worry about the Alvin Gentry and I see him I seen him last summer with T. Lou in our hotel. He came up saying how I was mad. But I'm still mad. Eighty Alamo. I know he's looking online else. I'll tell you I'm telling you man you look at this. I was in my mind. I had to get better data to know. Well we know how that came. He brought it up yesterday. Let it go we let it go. I just want to sit down with them asking duty. Meaning the worry about you like really uh-huh game minutes. I may ask you from your teammates that you play within the path if you had to choose. Choose to to play three on three. who was the two teammates? You used to play with. Show healthy you can't say Q.. Normal Fairview cancer besides Q.. Hell no you would but I go the state three mistake five and beady say ready for whatever we believe because I mean our take J. O.. If I wasn't a big but I feel I I play the big spot. You know what I'm saying no matter who the big is you know what I'm saying someting stack five in beatty. Talk about your stack. Friendship Brothers Man. I advocate presence rosacea close by everybody know jacket fool right I got two different personalities. I'm always the one keeping them as a the end today Yang. Yeah but I'm GonNa tell when I first met stack bro so like I saw I was working out with this guy named Sandy Prion at the Y.. IN IN UNION NEW JERSEY. Hi Jim hot. Y whatever floyd's sweat he'd be so high and one day I come into work out Stacks Their Reichstag walks into the gym. Right so he country till you come in to get worked out or whatever about doodle whatever author and do come in. I promise you take his pants off off right. You know to put this stuff on but yes so my starts in his jeans. He took his jeans off any stood him up and they just stood there the pants by themselves themselves. What got crispy starts? Oh my good- Niagara is in the boy standing there by themselves. But I never see pants stand up by themselves. Yeah so that's why I knew he was country but we worked out whatever and that's when I first met him so then I'll see him again until I get an elite whatever and you know we was cool or whatever but it all started like when we ED became Golden Kane teammates in Indian went to Golden State together and like we became super tight over that season. He was my witness marrying my wife. Your saline saline. He liked my homey homey. You first daughter. He's the guy. He's The godfather m saying we just been rider. Die Of you know what I'm saying. So people all the time blood can make. He goes no closer he wanted him do. y'All are you know what I'm saying. What I mean by that is like his last? Is Joe last vice versa. And that's how he is with me me lie. He'll never by ain't got it. He got here. You know what I'm saying. So that's how we roll for show. Yeah shot to stockpile able able hold up before we get all the way deep into the Viola. How did you get interview with David Stern? How did you get him talking about Mary? Jane Breaux they should be. It should be legal senior. Almost flip the table on so listen. What happened Bro? So when I when I got a layer reliance you say Broil Hola Timeout. All know how you did that. That was crazy. Nobody likes hits. You side Uh-huh Uh-huh what's as you saw it. So what happened was I went to this thing called the milking conference in Laya. Whatever so is pretty much? It's like all all the the world's thought leaders like talk about all these different industries and different things like that so I got invited because I was talking to these guys about starting a A refund or whatever so Guggenheim talking about doing like a fine. Where athletes and stuff like that? I talked to you about during that time so I went there just to kind of meet people in different things like that so so David Stern was on one of the panels or whatever so when I went it was him. Robert Kraft The guy from Mike univision or whatever like But it was pretty much. It's all about eve. Sports like the impact of e sports compared to regular sports and the guy that owned the technology company. He was saying East force is going to be bigger than regular sports like people are gonNA stop going to arenas or whatever so you already know. David Stern Lahey mad witty smart so he was up there chewing this dude up showing them up with all different accents. Accent is just being David Stern right so when he got done or whatever I just went up to him to say what's up or whatever so was impressive about him is like the first thing you asked me. How is my I ne- you know what I'm saying? And that was the one thing about him like his mind is crazy. He remember everything about all of us. You know what I'm saying that you know what I mean. Book crazy crazy. 'cause he's like how my knee and my knee was like about neal's fell off during the game. I had some off the court me issues like with so I'll just like all right. I was just like He's like what are you doing now so I was like you. Don't talk about thinking about starting to find with the players and this that and thirty. It's like Oh that sounds like a great idea of is also in the Kennedy Space and he's like Oh really so he's like so what you doing in this space as now I gotTa build in grow and this I give him the whole spill. He was live in Aspen Colorado off during the winter sometimes so I was like where he was like eight years cannabis places everywhere. Let me come talk to you about it sometime or whatever so we sit down have lunch so he was like cool. Let's do gave me his number so it took me Larry like eighteen munster time down like he is one of the busiest people in the world right. So he had hit me and said that He's like A. I'm actually going to be in New York for next three weeks and I got some open time slots time slot with thirty minutes thirty minute time slot for me to go meet with someone get there. I'll tell him to viola story. I tell them about my grandma van how I got into the space and everything he was just like wow sounds interesting or whatever and then he was telling me that you know back. When he was younger he tried hot before? And it just made AH have Have the munchies and different things like that so then I start telling him I was just like well. You know now that I've been in this for a while. I was telling him I got caught with my knee. Pain Amy and all that do cannabis and I start giving them facts. Like why player should be able to use cannabis. You know what I'm saying. And he gave me the story so now thinking about. When I'm telling you now my thirty minute meeting went almost two hours? You know what I'm saying like the The president of the king's some lady that was high dish she was waiting or whatever he's so interested in it and pretty much how was able to flip them through. It all was that I had mentioned to him. I just kind of walked him through the the players day. You know what I'm saying and You know as we all know like you know we go through so many emotions getting ready for the game. We played a game. We all hyped up graduates. Good Emotions Batu. The most magic teammate mad at other play against like journal like after the game. Like we all tint. You know what I'm saying and what we do is we have the gray goose to Hennessy. We we got all that stuff waiting for us in the locker. You know what I'm saying like that's how we coat that's how we bring ourselves there. You know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day we know that liquor has no benefits for your body at all. You know what I'm saying. I just explained to them real because look I'll play and I know how play during almost half about about themselves especially win. We traveling on the plane and all that so I decided explain it to him about the benefits of cannabis in being acting as an anti inflammatory and explaining to them about the Endo cannabinoid system and just like really bringing down to him that this and abby noise Endo Kavanagh's they know what the breakdown break it down word spell Indo his ellen be spell can can use it in the sentence so we all got into canals. Have noises in our body right. So that's why when that's why when we do get drug tested. That's why there's a limit you know what I'm saying. We all gotta limit because we all got naturally have Ta acs bodies you know what. I'm saying like cannabis is really a plan that was really made for us physically better more than any other thing in the world that we consume in our body. You know what I'm saying. We have a system in our body. which is what the plan is made up of all can happen? Noise systems looking at menards or whatever so When I started explaining all that to him or whatever you know he was just understanding? And you know I started sending them some more information and stuff like that and I was saying I was just imagining a world where you're athlete. We you know we talk about putting doing what's best for our players. Imagine after a game we have an edible right that has one hundred milligrams of CBD in Five Percents Tac saying just enough to calm us down seen relaxes them. So that we can get on the plane and good a good night's rest and and I asked him. I said which player would you rather plan the game the next day player that drink all that liquor you know what I'm saying dehydrated. You know what I'm saying having having a hangover or a player that actually use medicine you know what I'm saying. got a great night for us and his body from within the entire night because of the you see be that was in it. He was just like them. I would rather ladder. I think rather guys you know us kids and pretty much you know. That's how I was able to flip women. And he was just he went. All cameras happen was way met with him again. We chopped it up again with two lunches time when I did interview. It's funny like I had a list of questions right and uh you know he's an attorney so he sharp. You know what I'm saying so I had two questions kind of leading him down the road to see something close to let the players players use it in on my second question. He said it he just like yeah. I think I've been talking to you in all information you gave me out big. The player should be able to use cannabis and all that and literally looked to produce him was like what are you talking about but that was the purpose. You know what I'm saying. What's the knowledge that you know what I'm saying but you know wh up until Jose Canseco book came out? Please was using canvas. They went tested as much right full. Oh you've taken one test of you WANNA take him four random tests. Jose Canseco came out with the steroid thing. All lease had to randomly randomly test. Like four. You know all this crazy in it but see thinking about where he gets a lot of players to alcoholics a lot of players Trinka get heavy like they can go it was. I mean it was a drug. That was a drug problem in the league. Don't get it twisted like you know before us way before it's like in the seventies and eighties. You know what what I'm saying. It was definitely a drug. Probably there was a problem everywhere. You understand what I'm saying to one Justin sports when you think about it with baseball baseball. They can use recreational drugs. They don't test them for cocaine. Okay don't test them for cannabis. You know what I'm saying so it brings me to believe because now that I'm woke and I understand like the way people think in the way what was going on in the world I feel like they test. NBA players four random times. And all that because they know that's drug of choice and most of us are what black in the League league. You know what I'm saying so I feel like that's the reason why they put that in there because we don't do none of the other stuff for real you know what I'm saying is very small pockets. Ah We know you know what I'm saying since we play. We noted eighty ninety percent of the players. They will endeavour in some form of cannabis use. You know what I'm saying. Everybody may not smoke. They take edibles. Who's you know what I'm saying? Everybody realizes that using cannabis is a good time. You know what I'm saying is a better time than the liquor you know what I'm saying a lot of time gene that you could wake up and be all you can be the next day. You know what I'm saying every single time so I I feel like that was it was kind of aimed at us. You know what I'm saying and David Stern said that the reason why he he put why he made a for For tests was because current players from From the The MVP nine PM. What is it players association was complaining to him about teammates using cannabis. And stuff like that. And I promise you I don't believe it. I don't believe it and it'd be a letter I go order like some lay hidden from square po-policy. That'd be okay. You got three three hundred but you got the right lane is the right lane until the hairballs and was not healthy. Smoking Hallway live right. I won't you just talk about what you're doing both in both spaces though you know what the Harrington to replay. CBD for the record. I use it in the last two seasons in the big three the CBD crane like this man get get. Get an back. Contusion or calf or sprained ankle Asuncion the celebrate stuff. They use them at time phlegm like as dead. I appreciate appreciate their breath. Life real like so how like. How did you like veer off from just doing the candidates to get into the you know the the CBD the the crane in tinctures? And how did you get into that. That lay your mouth. I just feel like you know me being in space. BBN Voice Voice is is being heard in speaking from the mountain top for a lot of people that don't have a voice. I just felt that you know you know you you feel whatever the way you WanNa feel about the TAC. A C side of it. And you don't want to be high and all that type of stuff but ended. The date is planning so dynamic. That is more to it. One of our main goals in speaking now and being an advocate is to humanize this plant change. The stigma is fine. If you don't WanNa get high that's okay but this plant still do so much more baby and me being athlete. I feel like who people trust more or more than us being where we put our bodies to I've had fourteen surgeries. You know what I'm saying. I walk around. Oh now like I should be broke down. Should be taken popping pills. I'll take no medication. Umbro like zero pills. Nothing on them. Say our Medicaid through cannabis everything so anytime I see when I get sick I smoke more. You know what I'm saying like that's how much I believe in his plan. That is a hiller. So as far as Harrington wellness you know what I wanted to do was I wanted to create a company could be a platform for other athletes right. So you know. Every athlete doesn't have the time to get licenses and different things like that. So what I WANNA Harrington wellness to be was to be almost a parent company for me to be able to take him our brothers in if they wanted to create brands from Bringham House with me and spin out their brands and be able to do the distribution form. You know what I'm saying. So I started the first company. Replay replay is a a brand For athletes created created by athletes. You know what I'm saying. Approved by athletes who by athletes narrow now felt like the first thing is that we all deal with chronic pain. You know what I'm saying that I was the first thing that I wanted. Go after and I made these creams. These tinctures made these capsules and also made like this little wellness shot that you could take grow for and that literally I got the replay shot and I got the cream every week after the big three. I'm I'm Lou been up Chile's ankles like look I gotta I gotta a I gotta I gotTa get right with the CBD cream and it'll be two years to figure out that crane to you. I want you send it even have a name remember. Just this was the clear bottle which is why I say. Oh Bro this is. This is what had grown I believe in like cock quality and having a quality product. You know what I'm saying A. and that's why I like you know before that's why we're just now launching it two years at now because I wanted to make sure the product was right. You know what I'm saying because I WANNA make sure that when you try one time you have have such a great experience not only will you buy more. But you're going to tell friends. I want you to become our biggest my biggest sales people. You know what I'm saying. I think the way you create that is by you. You know by having a product that is it works at the just trying to be the way you Joe. I know you told her story about wake awake splayed. Yeah so when I was playing in Denver in two thousand eleven my grandmother came to see me. Play the end of the season Miracle in itself getting Outta jump on a plane to come see me but when she got there you know she was taking all this medication athlete in me. You know I never seen nobody ever take that many pills literally ever had a Sunday Sunday through Sunday a big joints to hear my mom or black mother the grandmother I feel like everything. She had the kit that they all have never get appeal. Like this probably these every day. Hey Bro so. She taken all and literally the athlete in me. Say Grandma I take so many vitamins. Saying I'm like what you taking. She started telling me offshoots dealing with some one of the things he said was coma so I was telling her about what I was reading the newspaper two days ago. Two days before about you know how candidates cure glaucoma is security was making a claim and I told her about it and finally she asked Moore what is cannabis and I was like marijuana. We she's like Reefa some agreed. Or you go. Yeah you GonNa help me so she shut me down. So the next day I came. They won't and the kids table As shoot around that morning so I came home. She was square when I walked in the door. And she likes that you and your grandma and she was just like my answer is so so bad today. I can barely see. Say you take all that. Medication is still on work. She was like his hit. A MRS hidden is I was like well look. Why don't you try cannabis? I said it'd be I secret. I won't tell nobody. So she like I. I mean so much money they I'll try anything I call my boy now. I'm not a smoker at this time. Right Karma boy he goes Gavin Aviram. Chris where they recommended at volcano thing guide honor roll the Valence eight bit out so taken the garage. She hit like three or four times or whatever massage I am. I think that's enough downstairs. I took an stairs out. You're not taking walks by hour and a half later and jumped in the shower. Go check on them so I go downstairs knock going to door and of course. I poked my head through the door to smirk because there's not knowing because she knows he hit hard. I think she might be up there. Stretching anything less assert rose back to the door. She's looking down in house like grandma how you feeling. And she turned around and she was crying tears. She's like I'm hill so you don't have had to read the words of my Bible and over three years and I was like what she's like she's like everything is so bright and so clear and going in like she like crying lion crying you know. She made me cry. Seeing something like Sydney I'm old emotional before a game and You know at that moment you know. Inspired me to learn more more. You know what I'm saying. I got to the point that next year I made my first investment. I bought a excuse me at least a thousand square foot facility in Colorado which now own it and and in twenty fourteen They changed all the regulations. And you know you pretty much had to become a licensed business at that point and You know when we was like what we go name the company because we gotta naming the person that got us here in our name is viola. So that's g MOMS. WHO's the best player in the NBA? Right now right now. Lebron James Okay. Garage is is I feel like you got route three all stars. It'd be a lot of times because I feel like he cancelled to people out by but I will say this. I think that this might be his. Last shift dominance dominance. I I think a gotTA catch up to not make. This will be a key year seeing like I mean after watching him go get engineering. Play Miss Eighteen. Whatever his most bond again it'll be interesting to see if he misses a how many he misses if he gets injured? Or anything. Because like you said at some point you're back nine has the start my as you have to get a check here there. So it's like is he going. How many games you gonNa Miss Gain managed? You manage them for the season. 'CAUSE 'cause at some point like you said has to take its toll and Yo yo superhero strip has and he takes care of his body More any better than anybody. I'm going to be ridden what we think. Prime is and all that he didn't ran straight like his dog a year. What was fifteen sixteen last year and everything like twenty seven seven eight NATO night br light? It's a joke. We want to catch presents you from our sponsors we got this Hennessy. Vso P. But this okay very special bottle right knuckleheads addition you smell me. Say something. I'm proud of y'all. y'All co also gangsters boy Ed Lee. I'll maybe I'll tell you what to do. A Lewis show. And all that young hottest thing in the podcast as congratulations and is beautiful to see like two brothers doing some together and I know y'all y'all boys is brothers. Signed do like you know. Do some like vile nine be no saying am I am crazy. Chaos be disrupt. Yeah man is I tom. Do you know what I'm saying. Like at the end of the day like they always say. Most millionaires made differs millionaire forty. He was getting housing. Nineteen so we got no excuses not to take this thing to the next level pro twice though ton. That's that's what I'm trying hard. You can reinvent yourself pro again and I feel like the impact. You know what I'm saying I'm going to have you'll be bigger than anything. I evident. Who An for real? I feel that way too deficit that way we will be on our way all a very positive space right now inserted. Uh definitely feel like stuff like this helping each other out using these other platforms and pushing it pushing the ball. We making history where everything we do. Crab Okay Todd Knucklehead fans much love much love. We appreciate the support. Were don't forget to check us out subscribing download on Apple Light Zunes or spotify web. You checkout podcasts. Wherever they available we outs else? You get at US yeah. The players should be dot com.

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The Promise Kept

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It was about to get much worse. My mom would say if you find the car you'll find Kathy. He didn't want it to be dark. Because you wanted to keep looking shot been stabbed multiple times. There was blood within the interior of the car. She was a targeted victim. Who Killed Kathy? We had no witness. We had no confession. We had no DNA. Twenty years went by they still had to keep lifting for what I had lost but Kathy and her and she had him put a lot of faith in God. Darren was tool and the killer. He never had a chance this everything to her. I fulfilled my promise in the wee small hours of the morning while the whole wide world is fast asleep. Mary Bennett is a week not because she wants to be. But because something stay with you whether you want them to or not and Mary Bennett. It's the time three forty am every day. I wake up around that time. It's embedded in my brain for more than two decades. That particular time has stabbed her in. The heart pulled her awake. It's an internal clock permanently. Set to the worst day of her life. It began with a phone. Call then a knock on the door and news of something. That should never have happened to this family to this girl which come inside the house. Her favorite thing was on home. What's for dinner? Even if somebody we just finished cleaning the kitchen she'd still asks what's for dinner. Was Kathy Kathy. Tourist grew up in placentia small town nestled amongst the sprawling cities of southern California. Even as a baby. She was a baby Mary Bennett. He's Kathy's mother. She was always happy. Always running always very loud and always smiling. That radiant smile shined everywhere. She went says. Kathy Sister Tina cafe was energetic. She was happy she loves to laugh. Cathy was one of four siblings. There was younger brother. Marty and the Baby Debbie. Tina was the eldest. She watched as Kathy excelled in school. Cathy was exceptional. Kathy may her own way. She didn't follow a role model. Nobody guy and nobody pushing her exactly. She had her own. Dryer is used to tell her younger sister that she had to leave her mark. You had to leave your mark in this world so that people would remember you when you moved on. You have to leave your mark on the world. You teacher that no that was just her gonNA admirable thing for a kid to come up with mom. Cathy was different beautiful. Smart UNSOCIAL in popular. You knew more about her dating life. And maybe your mom and dad did. Yes I believe to some extent. Yes can't be dated a few guys in high school but no one she was stuck on and then in one thousand nine hundred eighty four out of high school and a Young Woman of twenty. Kathy started to see a boy named Albert boy. She played with as a child and was now interested in Romantically. Were they boyfriend girlfriend? She said that they were. You know seeing each other but it wasn't anything serious or formal that I knew that's how she explained to me. You know he was a nice guy. Kathleen's plate was full. Seb Ury of one thousand nine hundred eighty four. She was an honor student at cal state. Fullerton holding down two jobs one of the local drugstore and another as a teacher's aide all to pay for college and now she was also seeing a new guy just a few days before February fourteenth. Kathy told Sister Tina what she wanted for Valentine's Day. He said Tina our just like it or someone gave me a dozen red roses for Valentine's Day and I said yeah that's all you want. I would just like a dozen red roses. She never received a dozen roses from Ami what year. She was hopeful. It was Saturday. February twelfth camping went off to a job at the drugstore. Our she that morning he was fine. Just routine nothing out of the ordinary team. That was trying to catch up with Kathy that day before she went to work. But just Mr at home only to see her moments later in traffic we saw each other and she gave me the biggest smile that always remember. She saw me. We looked at each other was beautiful smile. That smile that moment burned into your memory. Kathy shift ended at about eight o'clock that night. She was supposed to come straight up but Mary didn't see her. So nine o'clock ten o'clock comes. You're not worried. No I wasn't worried Saturday night. She probably went out after work within Sunday. Morning came and still no cathy. Cathy's family launches a search drove into the parking lot. I said let me just see her car. Let me just see her car. And the fear and the frustration grow. There was no days and no nights and he didn't want it to be dark because you wanted to keep looking Valentine's Day. Nineteen ninety four was two days away but Mary. Benefits was racing and for all the wrong reasons. Her daughter Kathy tour never came home after her shift at save on and it and the next morning there was still no sign of her. Mary called Kathy's friends no had seen her so Mary got McCarthy and scoured the streets of placentia searching for Kathy and her Red Toyota Corolla. Kathy Sister Tina saw the wrenching. Worry in their mother's face. She was a mom full of pain. She was a mom who who was hurting because she was looking for her baby. She would say fine the car if you find the car was like an equation. Find the car. You'll find caffeine. You get any sleep Sunday night. No it's waiting. You don't want to call the police because that makes it real. That's right it makes it real because you're still holding onto the hope she's GonNa come running in through that back door Monday. Kathy still wasn't home. Panic was setting in and Mary called the Police Department to report her daughter missing and the police said well. You know you don't know that. Maybe she went off. And but you're going to met some guy in Vegas right now and you're saying now not at that point you. WanNa yell and scream at them and tell them that's not true. You don't know Mike Cathy. The tourists family was not going to wait for police to catch up to what they already knew. The caffey was not someone who just disappear. They went to reporters Mary spoke to. Kabc in Los Angeles. This is one thing that nobody should have to and took the search in their own hands. The Place Department wasn't receptive so I told my mom. Okay give me a picture. Pima was insurance charge of flyers. Mary worked the phones at home and younger brother. Marty kept watch in front of save-on Together. Flyer soon it wasn't just the Torres family searching for Kathy. You Know God. Police did jump on the case and it seemed as if all of placentia did too we had strangers people come into the house asking. What can we do? Can we take the flyers? Can we have some flyers capacity wires? Tina drove to the school where Kathy worked all the while. Mary's mantra echoed through her mind. Find the car and you'll find Kathy drove into the parking lot. I said. Let me just see her car. Let me just see her car. Because I knew a lot of things were going on in her life. You know that week. Prior a lot of things was an understatement. Kathy's family was very worried about her state of mind after a strange and terrifying series of events that had happened the week before she vanished. I cheat come home. The previous Saturday in a bizarre state incoherent unable to stand up. She couldn't get out of the car. My son went out to help her. That came out of made you happy. No it didn't because I had never seen her come home like that and she couldn't tell me what had happened smelling alcohol. No she didn't that was. That was the scary part to me that you know that she did not smell like alcohol yet. Something was wrong with it. Even more alarming. Mary later realized Campe's underwear was missing. What you're describing is what happens when people come home. After they've been date raped yes I? They can't remember what happened there. Maybe not wearing all their clothes and they are clearly influence of something. Well yes I was afraid that maybe that had happened to her but I did know for. And she had no memory and she had no memory thinking about going the beliefs. Sadly no didn't think about that. You didn't end there. The next morning Tina saw Cathy's car. I remember looking at the tires and saying what happened. How could this be the way they were slashed was deliberate? Night just kept saying what happened to your tires. Who Slash your tires? And she'd say and she says she didn't know with the worst was yet to come two days. After Kathy came home in that strange condition. Her New Boyfriend Albert Rangel apparently tried to commit suicide even left a note that seemed to be in his own handwriting. All of this just days before Kathy Disappear. Albert hanged himself at work but he didn't die. He lingered in a coma in the hospital and Cathy was devastated. She was so upset she was crying. She couldn't believe that someone would do something like that. And now the Torres family was left to wonder if and how all of this connected to cavs disappearance just felt like you were out in in this time warp. You know there was no no days and no nights and didn't want to be dark because you wanted to keep looking. The next big search was planned for Saturday morning. February nineteenth one week since Kathy had last been seen. We got all the maps ready and we had just got another box donated a flyers and everything was said and then around three forty am. Saturday there was a knock on Mary's front door. Police Find Cathy's Car Kathy's shoe on the floorboard and there was blood within the interior of the car. What happened to Cathy? The Torres family had planned a major search for Kathy on Saturday a week after she disappeared but at three forty that morning. Mary had a visitor police officer. He asked for Kathy's keys. I gave him the kid and I asked him if it was Kathy's car and he just looked straight he didn't look at me and he said he didn't know that they had just told them to come and pick up. The NEELA finds the car. And you'll find Kathy. You had become practically family motto so when another officer arrived hours later the Taurus family was waiting for what they had dreaded all week. It's my mom asked to happen. Did you find Kathy? And then he looked up my mom and he said I'm sorry and while it remember where the flyers that were on my mom's table in the living near fuelling so much pain I was yelling. Not My Kathy up calf. Mary Bennett had been right all along. Kathy's Toyota Corolla had been spotted in a hospital parking lot. A plastic bag was peeking. Out of the trunk officers opened it and Kathy Torres was missing. No longer she'd been stabbed Multiple Times All about the upper chest the neck detective Sergeant Darren Wyatt. There's no way to time the death but I think it's pretty safe to assume that she had been dead since she disappeared on that Saturday night on the twelfth it was devastating not just for the tourist family but for all those in placentia who'd been searching so tirelessly for Kathy she was vibrant very intelligent. Young girl truly a tragedy. Detectives went to work trying to find. Kathy's killer they set up a hotline information regarding the homicide of Kathy. Torres scoured placentia for clues by studying her car and her body. Investigators got a sense of what happened first. Kathy was completely clothed. No sign of sexual assault and one more thing also seemed clear. Most likely the attack started in the car. There are pieces of gear. Shift that were broken pieces of the center console that we're broken As if a struggle it occurred and then there was blood within the interior of the car. Orange County Prosecutor Matt Murphy. Later reviewed the case. He noted lot on everything. The killer must have touched the steering wheel above the glove compartment. The driver side armrest and of course the trunk release but one noteworthy place where there was no blonde. The driver's side seat lever four eleven. Kathy drove her car with the seat moved closest to the steering wheel but when police found the car the seat was all the way back suggesting that somebody taller them candidate was operating the car not only operating the car but did that before the murder itself took place because that was touched and that seat was moved without any transfer of blood at all so the seat was moved back before the killing started and if so perhaps it was because. Cathy knew her killer and opened the door for him. Omar investigators also found. Kathy's right shoe on the floorboard of her car and her son covered in dirt of she got out of the car. Yes Absolutely Kathy. Had fled from the vehicle on foot had most likely been caught in attacked again Before she was ultimately placed in the trunk of the car in died she fought pretty hard to get away she did. She ran for her life. Detectives this was not a sex crime or a robbery. More than seventy stab wounds suggested something else. There's nothing random about it. She was a targeted victim. And perhaps the most chilling clue a letter in Cathy's own handwriting found tucked away on the passenger side of Kathy's car. She says in the letter. It's a little after drifting. It's yeah it's it's it's eight fifteen just finished. My shift. Today was crazy. Everybody was all buying the and the was for Valentine's Day and as far as you guys as far as he got so she's interrupted mid-sentence just who had done that. Detectives weren't quite sure. Darren believe the letter was intended for Albert. Who at the time of Kathy's murder was lying in a coma in the hospital after a suicide attempt? He never woke up and died almost two years later. Obviously you have to look at all of that and you have to ask is something that's involved in that. It was almost too strange to imagine except to bullies. There are rumors within the community that that may have been the motive for her disappearance and murder was that. Hey you need to look at the Rangoon. Family members of Albert's family. The rumors said were angry with Kathy thinking that she might have been the cause of his suicide attempt because of his relationship with Kathy and the fact that she wasn't as serious about him as he was with her so that had to be examined it had to be looked at so. The investigation continued as people in placentia paid final respects to the friendly cashier. They knew from. Save on more than a thousand people attended. Kennedy's funeral pretty impressive. The kind of person. Cathy was touched a lot of people. They remembered her. She left her mark. Can't he'd hoped for a dozen red roses that February instead her family remembered her with a headstone. Your smile will shine forever. That wasn't the only promise Cathy's mother made. I didn't know how will I be? I would have to wait but I knew that we had to do everything that we could get the answer because she was my daughter and someone had taken her away from me. Someone had done something horrible to her. And They. Someone needed to be accountable. No one could have imagined at the time. Just how long? Mary's quest for justice would take detectives have a few questions for one of Cathy's closest France. The minute I said no to her she blew up. She started company out Kathy. Tourists had been murdered and stuffed into the trunk of her car. Police were considering what role her new boyfriend. Albert and his attempted suicide may have played but for now were left with unanswered questions and a town shaken by her murder. Kathy had so much to live for and was A very happy person a people's person that was Armando Lopez speaking back in nineteen ninety four. Amanda was Kathy's brother-in-law Pena's then husband but that wasn't the only connection between the two families it turned out Kathy Dated Armand does younger brother Sam off and on and the families lived right down the street from each other. You can see one from the other. And she's going Sam your Mary his older brother. So that house wasn't just another house on the street. Right it was family right right. Police spoke with members of the Lopez family. Seeing new Kathy. The Best of how long have you now? Catholic five years. They interviewed him down at the station. Have Fun with like. I say that person on through with always have my. We've always be aggravating joke. Given their friendship detectives were curious about what Kathy might have shared with. Sam About Albert Albert tried to commit suicide take was she confiding in you? The only thing commissioned with a she hung in when she will order or him doing that because of her fault. We never really talked about it. Well you know. I think she was trying to hide former problem by smoking up meeting. She was smoking marijuana. Kathy's family said that for her. That would be out of character. Sam told detectives had last seen Cathy the Thursday before she disappeared. He said she paged him several times that day and when they finally met up some way to you know and then she kept an estimate solar. You can give it him. You know what that not go. You know what the minute I said no to her. She blew up. She started. Cussing me out you know and you know if I don't get three I'm GonNa get somebody else and then Sam said. Cathy got in her car and took off. I girl cousins you. I can't go chasing after you know. I never thought she was gonNA. I mean this was going to happen. Sam shared his suspicions about what had happened to Kathy. Same rumors about Albert that were circulating around placentia for you. The possibility that shoot somebody else from his family. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm pointing the finger. The nobody okay. But why why the incident after he thought that happening. Why have you ever thought of that? Of course police also asked him where he was then. I can't be disappeared. Could you tell us where you were Saturday night last Saturday here and we're asking everyone? I understand I was up in corona helping my friend a friend of mine move San Tool police so he and his cousin how air help their friend moves in the afternoon and then he said he dropped hobby air off at his home. Where'd you go from there from? There went to my girlfriend store and I was there till shoot to the clothes when they're on a little bit after eight then what they do. I think all I pick my coming up again if we had to contact everyone that you mentioned. Get their names and addresses number later. You're on Saturday night and sure enough. They did. Police spoke with hobby. Air Who corroborated Sam Storey Hobby earlier. Told investigators he was with Sam that Samad picked him up at his house in Anaheim and driven him to another house and Fullerton during the time that we believe Cathy was contacted and ultimately murdered so. If you believe Sam's alibi he couldn't have been the thing that interrupted Kathy when she was writing out right nevertheless they pressed Sam for more details clothing. You're wearing Guess for sure. Sam Readily gave those close to the police. Let them searches house to anti willingly gave samples of his hair and blot. But something about seems behavior. The we cathy was missing bothered her family. Mary said she'd repeatedly page SAM LOOKING FOR KATHY. But he was slow to respond. He called back not at first but eventually he'd mentally is and he said what ends in her and seen to all appearances that was true and the physical evidence seemed to confirm it do Sam's. Dna was not found anywhere. Cathy or her car and his clothes the ones he gave voluntarily police had no DNA of Kathy's on them but that behavior of Sam's which bothered Kathy's family also bothered police and they focused on him however when investigators took their suspicions to the Orange County. Da The outcome was not what they expected. Sam Has a new woman in his life soon discovers his old life. You're a little freaked out by that. Well Yeah police had their suspicions about Sam Lopez involvement in the murder of his neighbor and former girlfriend Cathy Taurus. But there was no physical evidence tying into the murder and he had a solid alibi on the night candy was killed. Sam WAS WITH HIS COUSIN. How air which is why police to their case to the DA's office the DA refused to file charges against San Police pursued other leads to like a possible connection to the suicide of Kathy's Boyfriend Albert. Did you think that Kathy's disappearance had anything to do with Albert? No coincidence just two tragedies happening at the same time but not connected by not connected. Even though that coincidence continued to bother them police were forced to agree but that left the investigation with nowhere to go. Whoever had killed Kathy? We'll still out there walking around. Yes out there. Enjoying the sun breathing the same air. You're breathing yes you think about that a lot. I did especially if it was a beautiful day. Those sunny days turn dark months past seasons changed and still the Taurus family was left wondering who had killed Kathy something. The never changed was married. Steadfast in her resolve to get justice for her daughter early on a friend gave her some advice she said remember Mary. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Don't let anyone tell you different. You keep going. And that's what I did. Mary under family sought the attention of the media. They marched in rallies lobbied officials for greater victims rights and spoke with then California governor. Pete Wilson About Kathy's murder. They even contributed to reward funds. Some of IT BY SELLING. Tamales at the local fair. You were doing just about everything you can think of where. Yes yes where you have to. You have to because you don't have the name where the resources to do it on your own. So then you look and you knock on doors trying to keep it out there who torres family says. They spent thousands of hours knocking on doors. Speaking at events all in the hope that Kathy's case would not live forgotten in a filing cabinet and Mary did something else too. I work part time for the city and it just so happened that my desk was right at the door. The hallway that connected the police department with the city and so they would see me sitting at my desk when they walked into city hall to every new police chief. Every would get a meeting with you. Yes I would actually go into their office and talk to them and tell them see what they could do. Europe asked I was a squeaky wheel. Your mom would relentless with the police issue of. I went with her a couple times to meet that the new chief that would come in to the police department. We go in there. You know we just to let you know we represent Catholic Tarez and we have not forgotten and we just WanNa make sure that you know her case is still being worked on and that's basically forgotten and we want to make sure that you don't eat right right. The city of placentia didn't forget the community. Learning Center was dedicated in. Kathy's net the Catholic Torahs learning. Yes you'd be able to leave your mark on the world. And she did him in. A tree was planted in. Kathy's memory across the street. They planted it in a way. We're from my mom's kitchen. She could see the tree. Zoom Lopez could see it too. He was still living in the same home. Police had searched after Kennedy's murder a search that turned up. Nothing and Sam was also moving on with his life in. May Nineteen Ninety four just months after Kathy's murder. Sam Walked into a local restaurant. He walked in with his friend and I just remember thinking that he was cute. Longo was a to then so I offered him some free food and then we started talking. She sold the spark right away and didn't think I would marry him when I first saw him. That was like the words that came out of my mouth. I'M GONNA marry that guy. You were taking with him right away. Sam and peanut started dating but in a small town like placentia. It wasn't long before Tina heard the whispered levers. I found out that my sister went to school with him and asked her what she knew about him. What she thought about him and that's when she told me that he they were. He was one that they suspected in the murder of Yes he hadn't told you that he hadn't told me that it wasn't the first couple of weeks that I was dating him. Sam Emphatically denied any involvement in candies murder. But just the idea so. She made up a lie. Madame and I told him that I was dating somebody else who enter. You're a little freaked out by that. Well yeah but the spark that first drew her to Sam too strong and Tina only known him a few short weeks. Something in her heart said Sam was innocent so I give them call and I started eating again. You're an attractive woman. I have trouble believing that there were not guys available. Who weren't already suspects in a murder investigation. I'm sure there probably were. But they're Beta. Have my attention dated for a year and then married? I was ready. I was this is this is I to be with. This is who I want to go with someone who I WANNA have kids with. And they did a year later came a baby girl and Sam embraced his role as dad. Mr You know. He stayed home into care the baby. Why worked you've seen it. Anything to with candies murder. He certainly didn't act like it. He stayed put living with his wife and baby right down the street. From Kathy's mom Mandalay. She would sit outside and stare at us and I felt like she was doing it to make me uncomfortable. Probably him too but I'm sure she didn't want him to be happy. She thought that he had anything to do with what happened to her daughter. Simpson about Mary. No now he would try to tell me to ignore. It was like the Hatfield mccoys. I mean what happened? There is no communication associations with them. you know that that was basically ad they became estranged which made it difficult for. Tina who was still married. To Sam's older brother are fleas continued to work the case but the fact was they had no solid leads and they weren't even close to arresting anyone but then two years after Kathy Torres was murdered. An unexpected meeting. Put this investigation in the fast lane. Explorer Scout with a familiar last name inspires a renewed search for a killer. That is a weird coincidence. We don't believe in coincidences. It was nineteen ninety-six passed since the gruesome murder of Kathy Torres in Placentia California. I had been to several places had knocked on many doors and all I ever wanted was the truth to come out as to what had happened to Cathy. The case had gone cold but it's memory still clung to the breeze in this small town. There in Wyatt was a patrol officer back then one afternoon his shift brought into this park just across the street from where Kathy had grown up. Darren was about to bust a drug suspect when the guy started talking. He's playing the game of. I'll tell you whatever you want to know just you know. Ask the right questions and I'll tell Ya and then you won't take me to jail so just almost as a flippant remark. I tell him. Tell me who killed Kathy Torres? It was shot in the dark attacked. A He'd picked up at a seminar for cultivating informants in the patrol officer. That is next to me. Start kicking my foot. And he's got an explorer Scout. Who's writing with them young Hispanic female and I look at her name tag and it was detours turned out. It was Debbie Torres. Kathy's youngest sister. Who just heard you ask that question correct? You had no idea it was her. I had no idea debbie turrets. Kathy's baby sister was now. Fourteen years old eager. Her mom says to assist police because of everything her family had been through. She remembered that we needed help. People can't to help us so she thought it was her turn to help others. Which is why Debbie was in the park that afternoon. And how she heard Darren Mention Kathy's case. That is a weird coincidence. We don't believe in coincidences to Darren. Wyatt it felt more like fate and just months later in January nineteen ninety seven. His lieutenant suggested Darren apply to the homicide unit so I ended up putting in for that job and being selected. It wasn't long before he cracked. Open the doors that house the homicide files and I open the cabinet and see the Torres case and I remembered the Internet with with Debbie from About a year earlier so I pulled it out and I started reading just on free time reading that a little bit by the Kathy Torres case had been cold for a good three years essentially no work had been done on it for at least the last two years from the beginning police had suspected. Kathy's one time Boyfriend Sam. Lopez had something to do with her murder but they had nothing connecting him to the crime. No witnesses no. Dna and Sam had that solid alibi. Tina was still married. To Sam's brother. Armanda the two families intertwined as Kathy's family continued to search for answers and then in April of nineteen ninety seven. I got a phone call from Mary. Bennett Kathy's mom. It would be their first conversation of Manny. Mary told Darren how she'd seen reports about a new program in orange. County centered around investigating cold cases. Kathy's case had specifically been mentioned. I and Mary says they're GONNA use my daughter's murder publicity for their program by all means they're going to work it and it's your job to make sure that that happens. There were no new murders in placentia in nineteen ninety-seven allowing Darren to focus his full attention on this old one. And because you have you. Have Mary Bennett. The family whose persistent Who are very well known and very well liked within the community it did give me a lot of leverage when I went forth and said hey look I need time to concentrate. Specifically on this case Darren poured through the files and hunted down new leads and then a tip came in seemingly out of nowhere. Saw a guy from from a repossession company calls the police and says hey I repeat this car earlier today and there's a folio in the trunk of the car and as I'm going through the folio their articles in there about this murder in placentia from nine hundred ninety four and their receipts from save on save on the drugstore chain where Kathy was working at the time. She was stamped that that had to make everybody sit up straight it did. There was more the guy whose car had been repossessed had recently been released from State Prison and was now in custody for threatening someone with a knife and what you wanted to know I was. Where were you on the idea that he has disappeared? Correct and where was he was in state prison? So whatever's going on with this guy. He's not your guy. Well he's not personally but is he related to. Does he know what the connection? Why is this stuff in the trunk of his car? When you say to him why would you have articles about Kathy? Zora's murder and receipts from save-on in the trunk of your car? His answers what I told my wife stuff did white disowns it. He separates himself from it which now raises a little bit more suspicion. Could you tell if he was connected to anyone in the case not initially? I really had to dig a little deeper to see what the connection was there. And finally located the convicts wife to is uncooperative. At first which again. This is raising suspicions again. Ultimately she did come in and talk to us in her explanation was that she went to Valencia high school with Kathy and then upon closer examination. We're able to see that the receipts from save on from different save on than the one that Kathy worked at and this is basically like her keepsake file. 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There was no indicators that he was anything other than a normal twenty two year old Kit Sound like a killer no absolutely not detectives interviewed Sam on two separate days. I on audiotape. When Cathy went missing leader this time on video after her body was found all week. I haven't hardy because all I do think about Kathy. Where the heck should be. He had always been cooperative. He voluntarily gave head hair samples. He gave a blood sample. He gave fingerprints And at the end of that he ultimately said you know whatever I can do I'll do. But as he read the file therein learned. There were other things. Sam didn't do for example. Sam Live right down the street. It Kathy's family. Says he never stop by during that whole frantic week when they were searching he did speak extensively with police? I don't think anybody thought that Sam was telling the truth. Remember how Sam told Detectives Kathy came to him looking for we'd But there's absolutely no indication that any of that was true which calls it a question Sam storey us and there are noticed. Another inconsistency in Sam's account of the days right before Kathy disappeared. Mary however says Sam was the one calling her home looking for Kathy he call. How many times quite a few times looking for her? Mary says Sam sounded okay at first until she told him. We're Kathy wants I saved. She was at the hospital and she was back yet at the hospital visiting Albert her boyfriend. Who'd attempted Suicide Sam? Okay with that. Don't he got upset sample police he was just worried about Kathy especially after? He spoke with her that week. I never tried heard all this stuff and I told you always talk down. President remember. This interview happened while Cathy was still missing. Sam SEEM TO BE IMPLYING. She might hurt herself or let another boyfriend. Might be involved then. There was the second interview. The Big Kathy's body was found. Protecting Wyatt studied. That tape to there was one thing that was important. That Sam didn't display that you would to see in a case like this which is emotion. He showed more emotion over the contents of a coke. Can he picked it up when they left the room? And he's reading the coke in the ingredients and the number of calories and then at one point he puts that down and he picks baseball hat that he'd been wearing you see some dirt on it. He brushes it off and he starts swearing about the fact that there's dirt on his hat. Oh but he never shows any emotion about the fact that his gout has been brutally murdered no emotion whatsoever and that's a big red flag huge. Darren went deeper into salmon. Kathy's relationship for a lot of things that brought them together and they didn't high school they lived across the street. Cathy's older sister was married to Sam's older brother. They had this long on again off again relationship in which what he couldn't go her or she couldn't let go him. I think a lot of it was mutual. Even after Kathy started dating Albert and Sam had another girlfriend to they continued to see each other and Darren found evidence that in Sam's mind his relationship with Cathy was far from casual. Mary gave me a shoebox full of letters that were written between Salmon Kathy and the content of these letters showed a very jealous guy. A guy who would get angry anytime somebody flirted with Kathy. Sam didn't try to hide the fact that he was prone to jealousy. She knows everything she mentioned. Some guy's name I pissed off. Okay that led the detective to take a fresh look at those bizarre events the week before Kathy disappeared when she came home impaired and then had her tired slashed. She never regained full memory of what had happened but she was able to tell everybody who she had been with that night. The Person Kathy had been with that night San Lopez. When police asked Sam about that night he remembered something very specific he under neck. Honore's here covered with ABROA- mean way down here her shoulder right here. Right here SAM cleaned. It was no big deal and they wanna hit her up like when you went by but that night police records showed. Sam received two traffic citations. Both while driving. Cathy's car was an open container ticket for drinking alcohol in a parking lot. The other for failing to stop at a stop sign. The COP pulled Sam over for not stopping said. Sam flew through the intersection and when he approached the car. The COP said it looked as if Salmon Kathy had been arguing. Did say caffeine looked fine. Nobody was quite sure what happened after that. Except they apparently parted company Salmon. His Car Kathy Hers and then Kathy arrived home to out of it to realize she'd been driving on slash tires. Pena sauvage tires the next day. I just kept saying what happened to your tires. Who Slash your tires and. She says she didn't know she. She just knew that she had gone out with Sam that night. Darren Wyatt believed SAM drugged. Kathy possibly assaulted her and slashed her tires. The next day Kathy called peanut with more details about her strange night with Sam he had told her. Let's run off. Let's get married. Let's run off and let's Elope and she told him you're joking. Your you know this is not know. What are you talking about? Are you serious remember? Cathy was see another guy. Albert who only days later tried to kill himself. Tina says Kathy Thought About Sam's proposal all that week old Kathy decided says Tina that she was so broken out about Albert. The answer was no. She's crying and then she said I'm going to tell him this Saturday that I'm not gonNA take off with him that I will look. That was Wednesday and then Saturday. She never came. Sam's admitted jealousy. Kathy's doting on Albert a rejected proposal. All of it seemed to add up to motive but motives don't prove murder. There was still no physical evidence tying San to the crime. All the blood on the car had been tested. And it was all Kathy's but then welcoming the case file detective Darren Wyatt. Learn something shocking. There were blood and hair samples that had never been sent to the crime lab and win. Those samples were analyzed. They put it to a whole new suspect new. Dna and on new man in the hot seat. He sat there and he put his fist in front of his. Now keep himself from talking back in. Nineteen ninety. Four police suspected San Lopez of killing his sometime girlfriend Cathy Torres. They couldn't make the case one. Big REASON SAM's cousin. Avi Air told detectives he was with Sam. The might of the murder Hobby Air was. Sam's alibi so he wasn't suspected of being part of the murderer or even being at the crime scene. That's right yeah. They were looking at hobby are solely as an alibi witness. Who is lying to cover? That's why as detective Darren Wyatt now discovered even though investigators in Nineteen ninety-four took blood hair and fingerprint samples from Havi Air. That never had those tested they had sent. All of the evidence related to Sam Lopez to the Crime Lab. His fingerprints his hair his blood but they hadn't sent anything related to Hobby Lopez to the crime. Darren sent samples now three years old to the crime lab. Two months later the phone rang. They had positively identified fingerprint. On the trunk of Cathy's car left there by somebody. Closing the lid of the trunk years print was on the trunk of Cathy's car. Yes weeks later. Another call from the lab AH bloodstain on the car had tested positive for both Kathy's DNA and how the heirs and the detective found. There was something else. Another major piece of evidence. Investigators had initially overlooked when you look at the crime scene photos in the trunk of the car. Something jumped out at me and it just hit me like I got punched in the face. Was there was arterial spurt on. They sidewall trunk panel. Meaning only one thing. Cathy was still alive when she was placed in the trunk of the car. So as hot air pudding there he could be charged with murder. Why not grab how air up that day and say okay your DNA and fingerprints were at the scene? We didn't know that until just now that you're going away for murder let's start talking. Well let's let's say that we did that. And we bring him in and he says well yes. My fingerprint was there because they helped her push her car out of the street a week before when I was helping change a tire. I cut my finger and I bled on it so instead of approaching heavy air therein. Wyatt spent nearly five months carefully watching him and Sam he learned the two cousins were unusually close. Sam lived in a one bedroom little bungalow with his wife and his baby. At the time. Get hungrier was there. All the time sleeping in the same essentially the same room. Eventually Darren why it felt. He had enough new information to get a search warrant was bowed pounding on our door. Few Montelongo remembers it clearly. When Open the door that was about five police officers? They're the one in the middle was white and he put us against the wall. Paradis down seems demeanor while it was APP was calm. You know he he really was I. I was freaking out. You know now. Maybe he had no reason to be police. Didn't find anything. In the house linking Santa Kathy's murder they even sprayed his truck with luminol looking for signs of blood. We took the SEATAC. We did everything we could. And there was nothing police briefly detained San Diego's back home by morning now. Therein Wyatt focused on Hobby Air. We really approach it very low key. We think that you can really provide some some great information for us. Would you mind coming down with US and talking? They brought him down to the station and listen patiently as he distanced himself from Kathy Taurus. He'd never been shopping with her. Never changed a tire on her car. Never carry groceries when we went through the whole litany of things that he would. That's all true. I I'm I'm a million miles away from her right right separated himself but in so doing via rule out any innocent explanation for finding is being a and fingerprint on her car so when police told him that's exactly what they had found it was like vapor-lock and then all of a sudden he said well. You know this one time. I was at the video store. And I saw Salmon Kathy there together and I went and I sat and Cathy's car and sat in the backseat and waited for them and they came out and I left and that was really his only contact that he can give us with. Kathy's car but isn't fold up like a house of guards all right fine you got me. You're right the Josh. You've watched probably thousands of these interviews and sometimes what people don't say is just as important as what they do. Say What Hobby air either would not or could not say or these were. I did not kill Kathy Torres. He says I don't know who did. That's not what I asked her. Did you kill Kathy? I don't know who did. And we played at several times where he finally say. I didn't do it. You didn't do what heavier I didn't do what you say I did hear through. The words killed Kathy. Correct then it moved to. Did you put Kathy's body in the trunk of the car. I don't know who did. Finally he sat there and he'd put his fist in front of his mouth to keep himself from talking but how air had already managed to talk his way into an arrest for murder nearly four years. After Kathy's death he was booked into the Orange County. Jail Kelly's family was stunned when they heard the news. Tina included remember. She was still married to Armanda. Who was Sam's brother and the air is cousin? Is that was a shock? That was a shock to the zoo. Coming in. Police didn't tell you right. That was part of their investigation and we had no knowledge of the but they were relieved. At last the case was moving forward Darren. Wyatt was confident he had enough evidence to prove. Havi are Lopez had killed Kathy Taurus. But once again the Orange County district attorney did not agree to the decided not to charge correct and so heavier set. Free walks a detective. Who Refuses to quit? I said I've got a cold case at take. A look at now has another good reason not to my first daughter was born and I remember going to marry shortly after that and looking nice. I know I know how you feel detective. Darren Wyatt never believed heavier. Lopez acted along even when he arrested Hobby Air Nine hundred ninety seven for the murder. Kathy Torres he's on hobby is real role was helping the prime suspect obvious. Cousin Sam Lopez Penal Model. Longo Sam's then wife an hobby is friend. Wasn't buying it. Can you conceive of how the air going through with a murderer or being involved because of his loyalty the same now? I don't see that F. Sam did it. What's Hobby help them? Just because they're close family. I don't see that neither did the. Da who decided there was not enough evidence to file charges. You told Mary that we had earlier. But we go. It was extremely difficult. And there's a lot of crying on both sides. Darren knew exactly what releasing how the Air Really Mitt. What walks out of the jail along with. Hobby air is any leverage. You had to get him to name Sam absolutely and now you really are back to square one. Yes is at the end to some people but not to him and not to marry. You put a lot of faith in Deir. Put a lot of faith in God. Darren was this tool but for the time. Being it seemed Darren's hands were tied after all the case had been rejected by the DA's office twice before this is a lot of baggage over the years. And so if you go ahead with it you're not only going ahead with the case you're also kind of insulting. The years went by the Kanthi Torres case grew colder by the day and so did the marriage between Kathy sister. Tina and SAM's brother Armanda. You got divorced. This has something to do with. That definitely is all intermix Darren. Wyatt was promoted to detective sergeant and his caseload shifted to other types of crime but he never forgot his promise to Mary in part because of a milestone in his own life. My first daughter was born And I remember going to marry shortly after that and I know I know now how you feel. I know I can feel it myself. I'm a dad now and you haven't given up. I won't give up in two thousand and three nine years. After the murder Darren once again approached a friend in the DA's office. I said I've got a cold case that I need you to take a look at. He physically stops walking. He says if it's a case I'm thinking about I'm not gonNA touch it but there was persistent eventually persuaded. His friend take cavs case back to the be as homicide unit the same unit that had rejected it twice before this time though something different happened prosecutor unfamiliar with the case. Agreed to take a fresh look. His name is Matt Murphy and he noticed one thing right away and the first thing you see when you look at the file as a big rejection from really good lawyers who reviewed it individually and as a group which means. They tried very hard to make a case and they couldn't do it. They tried very hard. That's right and they. They figured based on their review that they couldn't do it and some of the reasons were apparent from the get-go when you look at it on its face. This cases are real tough on one thing. There was so much evidence they didn't have against Sam. There was no murder weapon here We had no witness. We had no confession. We had No DNA so you can look at it that way in a conventional review and yeah. It looked really tough. But what really made this case of prosecutors? Nightmare is the fact that all the physical evidence pointed away from the man they thought was the killer. Any defense attorney would ask if police found hobby airs. Dna and fingerprint. Why WOULD THEY CHARGE SAM? Were you surprised you didn't find Sam's DNA there yes? He thought newer better tests. Might Find Sam's DNA but it was too late for that. Kenny's family had sold the car. The case against SAM would have to be entirely circumstantial. Murphy felt the key to that was somewhere in those interviews. Sam gave to police but here too. There was a problem when you look at the interview. Everything that Sam Lopez said seem logical at the time and everything seemed to make sense picking apart. Those interviews would be critical. This is one of those cases where you you have to look at the details. And it's truly one that you have to look at each detail in light of every other detail and when you rearrange the letters little tiny details it spells Larry gummer absolutely Larry Montgomery or as he's known here at they lie. The Evidence. Whisper you then. A human lie detector goes to work. The guilty person knows a lot. All that information is in his brain and can slip out prosecutor. Matt Murphy Thought Darren Wyatt's investigation of Kathy Torahs. Murder was compelling but he knew that making the case against San Lopez wouldn't be easy. Da's office had declined to try it twice before so murphy called for help from a detective whose legendary skill with cold cases has earned him a reverential nickname. Larry Montgomery is the real deal. I mean the guy's evidence whisper another nickname former saint. Larry Larry Sees things other people. Don't say Larry. See things that many people don't see yeah and he looks at it from a different perspective. They both felt the key to the case lane. Sam Lopez own words his taped interviews with the original detectives and they thought the perfect man. Listen to those interviews. Was the evidence whisper. Guilty people have tells just like in a poker game absolutely they don't have that innocent mindset and they they have other fears they feared being caught. They can't get their stories straight because there are too many details. Montgomery spent months carefully listening and re listening watching and rewatching hours of Sam's interviews looking for the tails. Tell number one. How Sam talked about his relationship with Kathy call. Sam Definitely was trying to limit his connection with Kathy. Give the impression that it's not that big of a deal. Remember Cathy sister. Tina had told detectives Sam had proposed Kathy just days before she disappeared but when police ask Sam about that he denied it. You have to marry you know later. He changed his story but seemed to say getting married was. Cathy's idea a Lotta people already there. Then then we were supposed to a low this sheet okay but shed a crazy idea to you go to Mexico. Okay just to those then. There was Sam's claimed that Kathy never tried to contact him after she disappeared on Friday. We know that Kathy's mom paged him. Twenty or twenty five times a matter of at least a couple of days trying to get him to contact her because he's so close to Cathy. She's missing Montgomery noted a TB tale about those pages. Mary's vote and Kathy's father the same number same numbers so seeing number on his pager. How did him no? It wasn't camping if he knew she was alive. He would know he got twenty or twenty five pages from Kathy or at least think that if he's guilty and he killed Kathy he knows those twenty or twenty five pages. Were not from Kathy. That was tell number two then Montgomery noticed how in his second interview Sam referred to Kathy's murder home but then this happened in shoot. He doesn't use the word murder. Doesn't say anything like that. It's like this happened as if it's small. It's not that big of a deal. It's not horrendous. He doesn't want it to be horrendous because he did it till number three and then Larry caught something else in the interview saying did before. Kathy's body was listen carefully before right okay. We're a week before should. Did you hear that before she was? What dead murdered either way? Larry Thought Sam knew more than he was talent. The guilty person knows a lot cannot forget all that he knows so when he's talking all that information is in is in his brain and it can slip out another reason to think sam new much more than he was saying in his second interview after. Kathy's body was found spoke with Sam for ninety minutes before he asked them a single question and when he finally did. Oh Yeah we do. Larry noticed a telling statement. Because you never gonNA ask forty one members to come back. You know what's interesting statement? I don't want memories to come back. What memories does he have that he doesn't want to remember if he's innocent? He has memories of Kathy. Good Times what they did. People would want those memories they come back. Yeah if he had a memory that killed her. That certainly is a memory. He doesn't want to relive after listening to the interviews time and again. The evidence whisper had no doubt. Sam Killed Kathy. But could the team proven beyond a reasonable doubt ultimately in cold case? Murders time he comes one of our friends because technology changes at the time of the murder. Dna tests could only be done on big samples like blood spattered. But in the years since analysis became possible for touchy microscopic calling cards. Many of US leave behind just by putting our hands on something if Salmon Hobby Air did place. Kathy's body in the car's trunk. Maybe thought Larry there would be touch. Dna on her clothes search for DNA in the areas that might be draft especially areas. That might be grabbed. That don't have blood on them. From Kathy. You look on the ankles and underarms arms ankles arms. I think under the legs. Bearing white sends out the evidence for touch. Dna You optimistic or are you thinking shot in the dark. No I was not optimistic optimistic. You know we because because what because on this particular case it seem like for the beginning phases everything. That could go wrong. Pretty much went wrong but he also knew he was working with a con on a mission. Darren why it was not going to quit until I filed this case or died or for he died. I Guess Darren was absolutely dedicated to this. The truth was if Murphy declined the case a third time the Kathy Torahs file would almost certainly go from cold to debt. What would he decide? No one understood the stakes. Better than Kathy's mom. Darren had told me that we were going to meet with the DA. My interpretation of it was that he was going to tell me that there was nothing they could do. The key piece of evidence arrives that are late than never. How long have they known that A couple of months at least and they what forgot the call but is it the smoking gun early morning in two thousand seven thirteen years after Kathy Torres at breathed her last. I was having coffee at a McDonald's before work and I was reading my Bible. It was a little bit after seven when I saw that I had a call from him from Barron want. Mary knew he was scheduled to meet with the DA. My first thought was he was going to tell me that the meeting was cancelled again but that was not the message not at all. He said I'm standing here in front of Sam's house and we are making arrests right now. The arrest yes a new thought and I got up and I think I screamed there at the McDonalds years before Darren. Wyatt had made a promise now he felt he was keeping it feel pretty good. There are tears of joy this time Sam. Lopez was arrested and charged with Kathy's murder but he wasn't alone just as prosecutors now believed he was alone the night he stabbed Kathy. To Death Sam's cousin Hobby Air was also arrested and charged with murder. Police also arrested Sam's older brother Armando who was once married to Kathy sister. Tina and it helped search for Kathy. It's just a tragic loss it hurts. Everybody loved Kathy. Armanda was charged with being an accessory after the fact allegedly helping cover up the murder. We believe that he was telling people who had information. That could help convict Sam not to cooperate with the police. Kathy sister had to ponder what that might mean about her former husband trail the worst kind betrayal of her betrayal of you. Everything your family family trust betrayal. Everything's broken beyond me. Sam and his wife had also separated by this point. She was at work when her sister called and told her police had once again. Come for Sam. What did you think when you heard Samlazaro? Stay the same that I always had. And it'll be out so after all the detained Sam once before and had to release it. But as Darren Wyatt now explain to Sam Lopez. This time was different. I've told you before that we wouldn't give up until until we were able to bring resolution to this case and that's where we're at now but just when it seemed the case was buttoned up. Barron got a surprising call. Remember the request for touch DNA. Darren had submitted months earlier. The crime lab finally called back and the crime lab says what? Hey did we tell you that? We found DNA on. Kathy's body what we found how. Mir's profile on her sock on the back of her knee and under her right armpit. Did we tell you know we didn't tell you? How long have they known that a couple of months at least and they forgot the call? I think the examiner who had been doing it was waiting for additional results and didn't realize that she hadn't notified us so the idea of touch. Dna paid off but not quite the way they had all hoped. Unbelievable that you would get touched. Dna evidence back that long after the fact right but bad news. It doesn't have Sam Lopez name on right. That's right so the strongest physical evidence was still against air but it was Sam who had the motive and he was the first one going on trial even without a trace of his DNA anywhere. It had taken thirteen years to arrest Sam Lopez. It would take another eight to bring him to trial and just months before that trial began. Matt Murphy learned that Sam had a new defense attorney. Someone Matt knew very well. He is so good and I would be lying if I said my heart was not in my throat. Sam's Defense Attorney Lou. Rosenbloom was the former assistant. Da who supervised the homicide unit. In fact he was the original prosecutor back in nineteen ninety four. Didn't think there was enough evidence to charge Sam. Not only that was the man who brought mad into the homicide unit. Blue took me under his wing and train me how to do homicides. What's it like to go up against your mental? Well it's terrifying to go. Her mentor neither one of them had ever lost a murder case. But someone's winning streak was about to end February tenth. Two Thousand Fifteen twenty years after Kathy doors is Murder Sam. Lopez went on trial at the end of this case you are going to hold them accountable for exactly what he did. The very first witness Matt Murphy put on the stand was Kathy's mom Mary. It seemed a safe way to start a cardinal rule that you don't ever do a hard cost examination on a mother but Matt's mentor brew. That rule he really press her on some of the details and scored some points scored big points. I mean scored big-time points. Mary initially told the Jury Sam only responded to one of her pages but under cross examination. Mary revealed he'd actually returns three pages. They were trying to paint a picture of Sam that he did absolutely nothing and that is not true. It's one of the only case I've done in my career where I realized he understands his case as well as I do. It was mentor against PUPIL AND THE STAKES. Couldn't be higher. It's as cold blooded as you can possibly get. Where is the evidence a twenty year search for a killer draws to a close but as always? The jury gets the last word when the clerk took the folder. I started my perk Florida's Misha Matt Murphy was facing the biggest battle of his career against his former mentor. Fame prosecutor turned defense. Attorney New Rosenbloom. You've only heard one side. The same man who back in Nineteen ninety-four four felt. There was not enough evidence to charge him. Lopez was now defending it own. It was an ethics showdown in a packed courtroom. Two of the best attorneys in the nation. Battling one another over a high-stakes murder with absolutely zero physical evidence on the defendant. Who's being tried and it was teacher versus student. Sam had been a suspect for twenty years and during that entire time his attorney said police had already long. The detectives made up their mind about who? Who did this murder within hours? We had a bad feeling about you. Said we're GONNA prove it. And he spent the next twenty one years over and over trying. The defense argued seems behavior. Didn't prove anything not only was Sam in touch with Kathy's family. The week she disappeared he also participated in the search putting up a flyer at his girlfriend's store and that business about him not showing any emotion in the interview with police. It is very easy to sit back and say he should have done that. He should answer this way. Look he's stretching he's yawning. He's reading a coke can obviously. He's a sociopath. Where is the evidence stood back from those supposed tells the defense said and you'd see the man sitting in? That chair was not lying to cover up a murder. People VOLUNTARILY GIVES HAIR BLOOD. Prince shoes clothes everything they want. Not a man who was hiding. That's a man who wants to prove his innocence and the defense said after fourteen years of tests not a single forensic link that his fingerprints DNA had ever been found crying. Sandy Kathy's brutal murder everything that they expected to find of my client. Everything none of it was there. Why because they're all the fingerprints and DNA. The CRANSTON made it obvious. The wrong man was on trial. Havi Lopez is all over this prince. Dna because he was the one that did not my client but prosecutor Matt Murphy argued that Havi airs DNA fingerprint. We're really evidence against Sam. Remember from the beginning. How the air had been SAM'S ALIBI? He paid me. And you know what the prosecutor argued that if they were together and Harvey DNA. Put Him at the scene of the crime. Then Sam had to be there to his. Alibi is at the murder scene. And for Sam Lopez. I think that's just devastating evidence and he told the jury it was the first of many instances where the most powerful evidence of guilt came from. Sam's own words. It Sam's actions and it's Sam statements. So he gave you the case against him. The best evidence that we have in this case and that we had with Sam Lopez himself. Sam was the one who told police. He had a jealous streak. You mentioned some guy's name. I get pissed off okay. Cathy was seeing another Guy Albert. The prosecution said Sam's jealousy was triggered the night he took Kathy out and saw that Achey. What effect is that can have on a guy who gets pissed his own word pissed if he if she even mentions another guy. What is he going to do when he sees a Hickey? Woody did Matt said was slash. Kathy's tires obviously somebody who would have to be very angry at her to slash your tires. If those tires were slashed ladies and gentlemen there's only one suspect. There's only one person that did it. Murphy. Said Sam's anger continued to build as Cathy's attention turned to Albert the same week when Sam asked her to Elope a proposal. She told her sister Tina. She was going to reject on Saturday the day she was killed. So now it's not just a hickey. It's denial of a proposal and it's all because of another guy. The result the prosecutor said was an attack so savage Kathy stabbed more than seventy times that it could only be the work of a jealous lover. Every one of those cuts meant something every one of those stab wounds meant something and the finishing blow she was alive and Sim. Whoa -Pez cut her throat. It's as cold blooded as you can possibly get the twenty first anniversary of Kathy's murder. Shell during the middle of trial a day. That reminded Kathy's family once again of all they lost. Would your family do that? We went to the cemetery as we go every year. In February. We take a red roses that she wanted to talk about today that year for twenty one years the Torres family had demanded answers. Two days after deliberations began the jury reached a verdict. I couldn't breathe. I felt tightness inside. The clerk took the folder I started the Lord is Sharper Michelle. Not One we. The jury find the defendant Samuel Agassi Lopez guilty of murder in the first degree wins. I heard that the night just all I remember is that I held my hands up to my chin. Like I. Just thank God Darren. Wyatt was watching Mary in that moment. This was everything to her and I wanted to look in her eyes when they came back In see that she knew that I fulfilled my promise for Sam's ex-wife stating for your daughter for for both shook your faith at all in him it didn't. I still don't believe that he did it. After the verdict people in placentia strong little white heart's on the tree that was planted in. Kathy's memory that you leave the mark on the world that she always wanted to leave she did. We have letters of coworkers of students. She worked with people. You don't even know but we didn't even know that were able to come back and tell my mom or tell one of us you know. We miss her at save on. She was always smiling. She'd always help us so what they did to her. Although stab wounds that she got multiplatform and those remarks for twenty one years Sam denied he inflicted those stab wounds than I. He Killed Kathy but sentencing. Sam Did something unexpected. I would like to Qualifies Janis to the Torch Family and to everyone for all of the harm and the grief that I have. 'cause this was horrible. Act At never should've happened is entirely my fault. I take full responsibility. Sam Lopez was sentenced to twenty six years to life in prison obviously pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter and being an accessory after the fact he served eight years and is now out of prison. Sam's brother Armando pleaded guilty to dissuading a witness and was sentenced to one year probation and Mary. Bennett is still facing the rest of her life. Without Caffeine Ninety four I was giving assistance and there was no parole from it. Live my life without ever seen cathy again without ever seeing her beautiful smile or having her come running in through the door see. What's for dinner? There's no I will never have any kind of from that. That is my life. She's serving it one night at a time because the wee small hours of the morning still call to Mary Bennett. Reading the Bible and waiting for dawn while the whole wide world is fast asleep. Hey Seth Meyers from late. Night was set to Myers in yes. I'm interrupting your podcast. To talk about my podcast. Which may sound rude. 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1.23.20 Planning for retirement; Employer pays off employee mortgage; Income share agreements instead of student loans

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1.23.20 Planning for retirement; Employer pays off employee mortgage; Income share agreements instead of student loans

"It's my pleasure to welcome you here to the Clark Howard show where it's all all about you and yours. I want you to learn ideas me so you can keep more of what you may coming up later. A really fantastic fantastic story in a reverse Clark rage about a boss pulling money out of his own pocket. So longtime worker occur. Could Retire L.. Fail Yeah it's really touched me and coming up later. Free College has been a promise by some candidates on the campaign trail. But there's actually ways people are getting being free college and they're not costing taxpayers a penny. I'm going to tell you how it works so I want to talk right now I I should mention Clark Dot com our main website. CLARK DEALS DOT com. Where we made it happen for you all through the Christmas shopping season and here in January and all year long the deals don't stop and we don't either will hit you with the bargains deals as they occur? CLARK DEALS DOT com. So there's been a lot of reaction to a survey was it was done by td Ameritrade. They've found that very large numbers of Americans are not intending intending to be able to retire. Ever that people in their forties and fifties in huge numbers. Roughly we close to half expect to work until they're deceased or until they can't get up in the morning and and there's been a lot of reaction from people who are really upset saying get out of the way he was. How am I ever going to advance if you're still working? Well this is crazy and it's why economics is such a strange profession but there's a massive societal advantage. Maybe not to you personally if you haven't saved for retirement and you have to keep working but there's a massive advantage for American society if people do keep working because we have a big math problem. We have an aging population. And we're if you look at historical numbers numbers. We don't have enough people to do all the work moving forward which is Iran. If you think about there have been many times in the past where the big problem was people couldn't find work and today we're in a period where it's hard for companies to find workers and we think that's a temporary thing and yeah there. Are you know there's recessions that come and go and then employment becomes becomes more difficult but the trend lines moving forward is this big need for workers we as a country of not been able to reach a consensus on having immigrants fill jobs in the United States. So if we don't have the emigrants we're going to have to fill in so people people who because they have not been able to save money and they reach age fifty and they're like oops I'm just GonNa have to work and work. It can work and work that will even though you might not like it yourself. It's great for the country tree and there'll be plenty of opportunity to go around for all of us as Americans in this era of Labor Uber shortage that we're facing. You're also going to see a lot more automation come into the workplace as AI. Artificial title intelligence get steadily more sophisticated and we deal with Labor shortages in so many job categories. Jeff joins us on the Clark Howard. Show Hi Jeff. Hi How are you. Hi Jeff Everything's great. What's going on? Hey just got a question about auto insurance And this is for my personal vehicle. I'm hoping to get some advice. Jason whether it's advisable to add rental car reimbursement insurance to my vehicle in the event that vehicle was wrecked and needed to be in repair pair for A number of days yes. This is absolutely essential. If there's not like a lot of families will have an extra vehicle laying around if that's not you. You want to have the rental car reimbursement coverage okay because you pay premiums for. It is low enough because the the likelihood in a year that you'll need the rental car our coverage is so low that the premiums are really quite reasonable. What are yours for six months? Do you know So I've got it quoted at a year but yeah seems very reasonable thirty two dollars for a full year per vehicle and I've been very worthwhile worthwhile. Yes yeah the benefits forty dollars per rental day. which doesn't maybe doesn't quite take care of? You know the full rental car. Actually you'll be surprised. Because usually in the insurance replacement rental market the insurers have negotiated rates with Car rental companies. That are off airport like enterprise which really got it starting that where there will be a vehicle all that will fit under your insurers cap that they've negotiated these volume deals. And say you should be able to get one. That'll be under or forty right. I didn't think about that that's Yeah agreed I've never looked into this before and My wife had an accident A year ago and we did not have it and luckily we were able to borrow a car you know temporarily but it was. It was challenging. Because there's you know sometimes it was not as being tasteless to just not have the car. readily available. So then how. How was she after that accident where she both My son and My wife were fine so yeah nobody hurt in the REC but the car was out. We were surprised they had to order parts. It was a Honda had order parts. I guess from Japan and it ended up being a full thirty days as before it was completely repaired because how there was some kind of hold up on the part so that's very unusual. That's that's an unlikely likely circumstance. But it shows that that what'd you say thirty-two dollar for dollar premium. What was it a year thirty two eighty dollars a year that would have been a good investment? -actly exactly so it is a coverage that I do advise people to Have you had that experience. That sure shows why that is worth spending. The money for nate is with us on the Clark Howard. Show Hi Nate. Hey Clark how are you doing great. Thank you nate. How can I serve you today? Yeah thank you love the show. So I'm excited to I propose my question so thank you. I'm thirty two and I'm married three kids though. This is six and so we have have. We sold our house in new like yourself. Having three kids that young it depends on which is usually three days out of the week. I like myself all right so I gotTa tell you this my daughter who has her first child she and her husband had their first baby and she cannot believe how difficult it is with the lack of sleep and she said to me last week she said Dad. You always told. Hold me how hard it was going to be. But I didn't believe you. Oh so true. It's so true. So so she's yeah she's what is she six weeks in seven weeks and not getting any sleep i. My youngest is eight months and she's been are easiest child. Thank Heaven because going from two to three was no joke where you know they say One is one and two is ten gone past two. Yeah Yup well. How can I be serviced? I'm not coming over to Babysit. Yeah okay well that aside then Let's get into the other part which is so married. Good job Three kids we sold our Utah House and made a good amount of money. And I invested invested fifty thousand into a small private equity company that I actually worked for. And we're trying to grow this thing requiring small businesses and so I put some money in to have some skin in the game and I'm left with about twenty five thousand and I really WanNa know the best way to start retirement planning whether that's this. IRA or getting into real estate or what. I should really do with that. Twenty five thousand so what I would recommend. Is that you immediately take so you can take six each of you and put in Twenty Nineteen Roth. IRA and take six for each of you and put an twenty twenty Roth Ira. So I just spent twenty four the twenty five okay. There's Roth IRA. I don't know your familiarity with it. But it is the go-to to start building retirement money. And when you can invest with any of a number of the ultra low cost companies the three that have the most market share vanguard fidelity and Charles Schwab and any of the three or commission free with very very low cost investment choices. And my favorite for you. You do if you opened a twenty nineteen and a twenty twenty because he can do that even past year up until when you file taxes is that you put put that money in a target retirement find for the year closest to win. You're going to retire and closest to win. Your wife will retire okay for retirement. Typical retirement age for each of you. Okay I talked to a Buddy who works at vanguard and he walked me through the best account for that the then the the the following question is how much money should I be contributing. 'cause they'll be maxed out but then once they're not maxed out and I'm done with the twenty four thousand is you can't Chan so you can either just pop all that money on or you can pop in the twenty nineteen contribution in one check for each of you and then for twenty twenty contribute five hundred dollars a month automatically and then if you do that that's an you keep doing that. Going forward in in twenty one and twenty two and on that you're doing a classic investment method called dollar cost averaging that helps you ride out downs in the market market. So you don't panic when there's a stock market decline and you just keep going where you build that habit of putting in the five hundred hundred every month. Okay well thank you very much sure How many how many more kids are you gonNA have nate? Well the plan was four four but honestly I think we're done at three. I have three producer. Joel has three and Kim is screwing up. All the number she has zero should get on that he. You want to speak for yourself. Oh she shaking your head violently. No no kids learn from us. I guess right right. That's her choice. Today's Clark -rageous moment is actually a reverse rage one of those things about our fellow humans that touched my heart art. So it's the story of Albert and Rudy so rudy owns an auto repair shop and he loves his employees and he had an employee named Albert Albert pushing pushing seventy was really starting to have a lot of trouble physically doing the very physical labor involved involved in the auto shop and is Rudy said about Albert. I could tell his age and the physicality the job. We're we're starting to take a toll and so he wanted to know why was still working because he could see. He was really really struggling to work and Albert said that he didn't have enough money to pay off his mortgage and when he had the mortgage paid off he was going to retire. And so do something he told Rudy and didn't really think about it. And then Albert all of a sudden finds out that his boss Rudy. The owner of the shop had written a check and paid off the balance of his mortgage and said go be with your family. Go enjoy your life I I mean how great is that so now we got Albert now owns three bedroom home in Texas free and clear I mean he does it just because the generosity of his boss I I mean what goodness resides and so many of us. We only hear often in the news about the bad that goes on. But there's so many people who have a kind generous heart and I think that's wonderful. Joe I think we have time for an ASS Clark here yet. We certainly do. Clark is where you post at Clark Dot com slash. Ask any question for me. Yeah Thomas Hardy wording says what is the best way to go about getting a will made Clark Thomas. It depends on your situation if you have a really simple situation. Relation no complicated blended family stuff. You're not rolling in money you can do. 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Where you go to save money each and every every day so thank how many questions I get about college doing five twenty nine plan borrowing the money for college paying back loans? Whatever and so we have an affordability problem in the United States? But you you probably have heard these stories. Recently about these two colleges in Kentucky then offer Free College College with no strings attached and it's usually a college has a a lot of free rides. It's typically because of the money they have an endowment. The schools are small. I'll probably mispronounce Berea college and Alice. Lloyd College Charge Their Students Zero for tuition commission. My daughter goes to a College Occidental. College where people pay the admissions was was called blind admissions. They don't know if someone has the financial means to go to the school. They just admit the best five hundred fifty freshmen each year at college and then after the people have been offered admission they then have a score. That's issued for each child or each potential incoming freshman. I don't think freshman liked to be you've heard to his child. Students that three digit score is issued in that three digit score determines whether the you pay nothing or full freight to go to college and they do it with money from the endowment is how they do that they are the idea is they. Don't want people taking out student loan debt. Well there's another thing going on in the country that I talked what about when it was first an idea but it something did is growing income sharing agreements no now simplisafe employees as they when I first talked about I. Essays were available at only a couple of schools as an experiment. Now there are roughly one hundred colleges that offer I essays and what they are is where you graduate from college with no student loan debt at all but whoever invest in your education you pay him back with a a share of your income going forward and you typically pay for ten years so so you know you get a school. You don't know what kind of money you're going to earn with the income sharing agreement. There's as a percent of your income and I'm talking generic terms because the essays are still young enough that they vary a lot and how they work but you take out the ISA and then the investor in it gets paid back so much every month while you're working for that typically ten year period so I- essays are not not just like an IRA where you just can go. Do it anywhere it has to be at a participating college of which again there around one hundred rid of them now but the idea is a lot of families. It's not possible economically to save for College. It's just not going to happen. And so then a student is left with the choice of not going to college or going to a very affordable affordable college my preference. I love for people to go to community college at least for the first couple of years. Cut The cost college by roughly half for a four year degree but this is a whole different idea where you go to one of these schools that participates in an income sharing agreement. And then you graduate with zero dollars of student loan debt so there's no to my knowledge. No Trade Association yet yet. There's no standardized list of schools that offer. Is as it will required industrious high school senior senior to look around four. Isa Programs if the goal is to have the ability to go to a private college college. And go to one where you're not going to be buried in student loan debt when you're done clydes with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello Clyde Doing Clark great thank you so that's a good segue to what you WanNa talk about. Isn't it a little painful. My son does is not a did not choose a free college but he's looking to go to a flight academy here in Florida and The baseline I guess is that you know. He's nineteen years. Old is a part time. Job Makes About Twenty K.. Year is to credit cards and we also have a twenty five K.. And five twenty nine money as a cosigner. If that's you know probably way we'll go on myself. I have a seven eighty credit score. And we're looking to BORROW ABOUT SEVENTY TWO K. The program is two years and the good part. If you will is upon graduation the regional airlines are paying sixty K. in a signing bonus and then giving another ten K. after one year or service His first year salary is expected to be a little over forty K. Yeah there's a there's been a massive shift in the entry point and come that pilot now earns with of course commuters in the majors and I don't know if you know the recent history but it used to be that if you started as a first officer with a commuter the airline for the majors you started at about twelve thousand a year with no assistance for student loans but the labor shortage for pilots islets is so extreme here in the states and around the world that the signing bonus thing has made a huge difference. Yeah it's it's very louvers awesome. Yeah so the the flight academies partnering with a Bank that has an option for private student loan. They're we're offering a five point four to eleven seven point seven you know depending on the credit score six. You're on Pogo for that. They're not gonNA just might your son sign alone right. Yeah absolutely and it's you know free pay penalties First payment is due six months after graduation. The the cool thing seems to be that. There's a cosign relief clause that after he makes forty eight monthly payments. On time that you know if you qualify we can drop the cosigner cosigner do in that case what you do in that case is the first forty eight payments you make absolutely so there's no no question those payments have been made on time and then then you're relieved from co-signing responsibility now. It does violate violate my formula is. You're talking about in perfect conditions. You'RE GONNA end up with him having that seventy two thousand housing and student loan debt correct. Yeah and so you never want to borrow more than what. He's likely to earn the first year on the job. The reason you would violate that. Is that the airline industry. Being a seniority driven business his income will will rise steadily and continually through his career till he's been with the Airlines for twenty years. Let's say yeah absolutely plans to go to the majors as well now. There is one other alternative that I'd like you to see if it applies in your state or part of multi-state compact there are now state. Schools State supported schools. That offer aviation programs often subsidized by the airlines in some way because they need pilot so badly and mechanics so badly. Have you looked to see if there. There is a state supported school. There's numerous one of much more expensive to factor for a state for now. I'm talking about part of Urine Florida part of the Florida State University system. Oh I'm sorry. So there's there's there's you know there's a Daytona schools very very large Aviation school very expensive as well. I'm telling you about one subsidized by the taxpayers of your State No. I don't know that I haven't checked into that. I did not know how I would look. They aren't out there saying hey come look at us. You GotTa Look Okay and there's also a number of multi-state compacts that if a state school in one state doesn't offer a particular major degree that your son may be able to go into nearby state that offers a subsidized pilot training program. It could be a lot cheaper than a traditional private flight school program Definitely look into that and then your son would graduate with a bachelor's degree and a pilot's is licensed both yeah the the first step is regionals. He doesn't need a bachelor's degree but those the end goal is bachelor degree for the major. So that's why these state programs programs where they're part of the state university systems encompass both the degree and the pilot's license. That's great so we need to look into that. Hopefully you can find something like that. I'm just not aware of the state of Florida. There is a State University program but again then and that's where the multi-state Compaq's come in. I don't know if that's a term you're familiar with but I'm not looking to the but anyway a state that may not be able to afford or have a particular major works out a deal with another state that has that major where a child child who normally would be out of state is considered to be an state in that particular courses study. Michael is with us on the car. Coward Show Oh hi Michael. Hey Clark are you great thank you how can I be of help. Okay so I get I've gotten gotten quite a few recall. Notices over the years I have a twenty eleven fusion and I finally decided to do something about it and I called and set up an appointment to have them fix. And then so I got to thinking about it and I wanted to see exactly how many active recalls ahead so I got online and I did a quick Google search looked up the NHTSA website right and It said I had three active recalls and so I was reading through the notices and everything and I noticed noticed that there was a reimbursement period. I can't remember who pays or whatever but Only one of them said that it was still active and the other two had already expired so so my question is is in my financially responsible for those other two recalls now because the reimbursement period is over so good question all right so as a general rule the statute of limitations for a recall is eight years from when you originally I bought the vehicle. So did you buy the twenty eleven in two thousand eleven or were you a subsequent owner. No I got it in fourteen Dino's second odor. Okay so you're well within the years so the exception to that would be if the Fed specifically agreed that there would be a time limit for you to make a claim if there's a stated time limit that in my understanding would be the superior thing or inferior for you but if there's not a stated time limit than it's eight twenty two. Okay thank you so if there is one go to the dealer in good faith to have the one recall done that you know you're still eligible for And ask them what about these other two so at least album. They should do that. I will definitely do that. It's the Takata airbag thing. So ooh yeah that you've got to take care of because the Takata airbag thing is extremely dangerous. Oh yeah sounds like it so I hope that they can get that done in a timely manner you know. There was a long period of time. That manufacturer saying bad news. This airbag thing doesn't work but worse news we have no replacements. But we're just telling Ellen you it doesn't work it's time for Clark Dot com slash. Ask that's when you go post a question and we answer a multiple ways one one. If you check a box well you may. Well end up with me on the show answering your question or you may get a chance to talk with a member of team. Clark Ark. Free Service of our show since nineteen ninety-three where we provide free off the air advice or producer. Joe Could ask your question for you and that's what you're GonNa do right now that's right. We got one from Tom. He says how can I get around three percents up charge. A local car dealer wants to charge charge on credit card transactions have got a tiny sign about the size of a post it note next to the checkout counter letting you know about the fee if I pay cash debit or check there's no fee but it's hard and to have that extra cash on hand if the expenses are more than I planned. Plus the credit card can allow me to dispute the charge. If there's a problem what do you think Clark. Yeah I'm seeing this uh not a lot but more and more where retailers are charging the three percent surcharge and so depending pending on the circumstance. I reward card so I either pay the three percent extra or I pay cash ashish in a case where you're worried about needing to dispute or you're short on money right then you're right to pay the three percent extra extra and just use the credit card but it is you gotta understand for the car dealer and for anybody who accepts credit cards. It's the visa. MasterCard cartel is charging such massive fees to merchants that more and more merchants are saying. Let's let the customer decide if they wanNA use that card. They pay this if they don't they're gonNA get a better deal a better price by not using that. Plastic are Clarkin Janney road and she says what about reverse mortgages. What are the pros and cons and that I should be considering when I'm thinking talking about them well if you watch the TV ads they're just the greatest thing ever for you to take out a reverse mortgage your house pays you who every month? So that's the pitch and that's the idea. The problem is that reverse mortgages come with massive fees up front and it's been a big problem around the country that people do reverse mortgages ended up being foreclosed on on so the easy walk in a park. That's promised is not really true. But if you are in a position where your house rich and cash poor. You don't have enough money to live your life. There's nobody you want to inherit that house from you shopping around and I'm doing a reverse mortgage is a potential alternative. You should go through financial counseling to make sure that it looks like the right right choice for you shop the market and then do the reverse mortgage but only as a last option definitely not a the first one in. Its when you're tapped out and you need the end. Come you're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard show is produced by Kim droves. Joel Ours Guard. 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"Yes, sir. Donald show here on ESPN LA. Thanks to mean for hanging out Albert breer of the NFL. I keep saying the NFL network. He's no longer with the NFL network. He is with the Monday morning quarterback and Sports Illustrated. I may want to write that down for when he joins us at five thirty. We'll talk NFL playoffs with him. We'll ask about cliff Kingsbury, and what the hell is going on there. I feel like everybody here needs to know, what the hell is going on with cliff Kingsbury, particularly because well, you know, the offense of coordinators in college are kind of running out now as staffs are being filled out there and cliff is kind of doing his thing. So let's get to what's hot right now. I so what's hot right now? Literally at this moment is that Leonard is going back to San Antonio for the first time, and if you're wondering now, I'm a believer. I'm going to tell you what I believe should have happened. Okay. Now, I know yesterday here in LA we got down with Palmdale p. Right. We had an Rica call in yesterday, which I've Rica acting. Fans guy got it. No. She just ways to the free throw every time. He goes up. We don't need you. So here's George to shoot two free. Throws. The LA fans. Did it right now? Paul George ever played for the Lakers or anything like that. He did this magic. So I get it. And that's why you know, you should have a little sports funds. They'll sports hate with them. You booed him. You did all the right thing. Snow? You did go off. But you know, we can get to that little later. But with coli, dude one you a chip, okay? He was the finals MVP. And what's happening in San Antonio right now. Well, Stephanos who sorrow covers Texas for sportscenter basically says the Spurs fans are booing kuwa- every time he touches the ball in a layup lines. It's that game hasn't even started yet. This Spurs are not doing video tribute for him. They cancelled it they were going to do one. Would it be interesting to why not have like a Tim Duncan? We know Bruce born won't show up for co I, but you know, some of those guys if they come in and support him and put their arm around made mafia type thing. No, I don't think they really want that. I think I mean, we're saying earlier pop saying today find we should cheer him. And celebrate him and all that stuff. But he didn't mean it like, you waited to the last second to do it because it sounds right. But here's the funny part. So they're booing coli in layup line before the game even starts and they're cheering Danny green. Every time. He touches the ball in layup lines. That's some petty. Petty petty study. Okay. So that's what's trending currently literally at the moment. Here in in the NBA harder Rosen meta people, he better be stay woke. Yeah. I think Toronto though, it's different when he goes when they go to Toronto I mean to rose in once he leaves San Antonio. 'cause one derozen goes to Toronto is February twenty-second I'm actually doing that game on the sidelines. Now, my guess is for Toronto. Like Toronto loves the Marta rose. Like he was there guy. So that'll be a little different on that night. But it'll be fascinating to see how that works itself out. Speaking of swabs Antonio Brown, clearly been in a squabble with the Pittsburgh Steelers and Antonio Brown had a busy Wednesday. So not only did the Steelers wide receiver find himself in a fallout obviously with his team, and apparently reportedly and irreparable situation as he allegedly sort of requested a trade, but Mike Tomlin says he didn't officially request the trade. I mean, I don't know. But he showed up on a show on FOX called the mast singer. It's. -ality game show in which a panel tries to guess the celebrity performers singing behind outrageous costume the big surprise. When the first shows big reveal was and Donio Brown. And my guess is Mike Tomlin probably got wind of this. Could you imagine? Now, I don't know. If Tomlin's a fan of the mast singer on FOX. But let's just say he got a whiff of the fact that Tony was going to be on the show. And he was watching that. There is no way. Like, I I don't know my Tomlin. But I feel like Mike Tomlin keeps it as one hundred as possible in his press conferences. So I almost feel like I know him, and my my guess is. There was some curse words coming out of his mouth when he saw that video. Right. Like that had to be the case. Yeah. He's you know, they're pissed at him right now. He's hot he's hot. I would be hard to James Harrison former steal loot at not. You know, a big fan of Mike Tomlin right now is kind of throwing his logs in a fire. Also. So it hasn't been up with Tonio. It is interesting because the Steelers are not known. For drama, historically. And yet basically the last two years there's been a lot of drama there. And a lot of. A lot of things being said about Mike Tomlin. And look, I don't think my Thomas refired anything like that. I'm not one of those guys. Like, I think Mike Tomlin's done a really good job there. And I think this year they dealt with some injury issues or guys that weren't available to them like levian bell. Because it was an organisational thing. Right. Like money. I get it. But man, it is a strange time to be in Pittsburgh right now. But it's audio Brown has has them kind of by the coconuts because if they want to cut them is going to cost them twenty million dollars against the cap. So no team. That's just gross mismanagement. If you cut him just for my culture, culture perspective, that's one of the ten percent of the cap. That's crazy. Like, you can't cut him. So ABC kind of got them in a tough spot. Speaking of the NFL, Dan reveal of the action network shout out to Chad millman who joins us a little while ago. He tweeted out the Twenty-eight NFL hate map, we've been dealing with a lot of hate today as we were talking about, you know, Paul George last night on day OB. Hates you. So be hate map for the most hated teams by state who do you think is the most hated NFL team for the state of California. Would you like take a guess, Mike? The chargers. It's not actually the chargers for that's kind of funny. I feel like the chargers are a little indifferent for them. So I don't think that's the case. It is the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks are the most hated team. Now. The Rams are hated. They are hated in two states. They're hated in Oregon. Interestingly enough not in Washington, though. So there's that. Yeah. So the Rams and in Arizona. So there you have it. So that's where the Rams are hated the most. So that is according to Darren rebel and the folks actually according to Google he got the the information from Google, I the next thing that's trending is what NFL team is going to be on hard knocks. Now, there have been a lot of people that have focused in on this and have said like coaches have said they're not interested in it. John Lynch, the GM of the San Francisco forty Niners. They're one of the teams that is listed among the candidates. He's actually said he doesn't want to do it. Because he feels that the part on the show where he's going to have to cut somebody on camera. He's just uncomfortable with that whole process. I actually give John Lynch props with that. Because first of all not only is it uncomfortable for the person doing that it shows. He's actually a human right like that's normal. But so embarrassing the lowest moment of this guy's potential life. Right. As a football player. Is being broadcasted on television. Like, I'm not down with that either. Well, I wanted to just, you know, take take that part out and just say, hey, if we agree to it, you know, this happened behind closed doors understand that's part of the show HBO's not going to buy that. They're not going to go with that. Because they're paying a lot of money for this. So that and the access and that's part of the access. It's going to be fascinating to see which team they go on their whether it'd be the raiders the raiders elect a front runner, right? And they don't have a home. Like, what the hell you gonna do do even know where they're going to train? Yes. Good point. That's the problem. Now, I think that would be that would actually make it fascinating. Right. Because we don't know about that. And we know Gruden loves television. So there's that, but I haven't even really paid much attention to hard knocks in years like I'll watch maybe an episode here or there, but I'm not like, it's not appointment television. Like at once was for me. So that's what's trending. Of course, brought to us by our friends at the dudes brew. Here's a holiday tip holidays may be over. But you still love some beer. Right. Well, when in doubt, go with beer the dudes brewing companies selling their tasty craft cans online at the dudes brew dot com. They'll even ship over. Overnight anywhere here in California. So visit the dudes brew dot com today and happy holidays dudes so Palmdale Paul got the best of the Lakers yesterday. But there are some things that the Lakers need to be focused on because I'll tell you this magic LeBron. And rob they did not look happy yesterday. And there's a reason behind them and tell you what it is next sit show rolling on here on ESPN LA. Thank you for tuning in as always hope your commute is a little better because we're having some fun here on the show with you and real quick for I get into what happened last night and the specific image of LeBron James in the tunnel with Magic Johnson, rob Pelinka, and how ominous that felt as I was watching that unfold. I just went to the restroom during the break and. I want to give props to somebody whoever. It was I went into one of the stalls, right? Because it was kind of a full house in there. And in the stall that went into hanging on you know, how they have like the handicapped bar or whatever on that bar. I saw a packet of wipes like wet wipes like the little baby wipes, and they were Spanish wet wipes. The they were. It was something to remember the name of something they auto which means of gold, but it had like, aloe. Vera, I read the package I wanted to take a picture of it. I didn't even into the bathroom, but shot up to that person because that person game at quip, and they're going to be really upset when they get back to their desk, or whatever, my guess is do you like now if you wanna take wipes into the bathroom, which look I manage you men because you know, you gotta take care of that area. Makes it easier for sure. There's a reason babies use it. But. How do you do you smuggle that in like are you put it in your back pocket like in your jacket like he's gonna jacket like are you like brazenly just walking into the bathroom with the wet wipes? Like, how does that work? Do you think I you know, I wouldn't probably just walk in like that. But it's a bathroom. Let's just be real, right? Everybody goes to the restaurant, and let's face it. These like these office buildings. It's not a time to be cute right for sure and these office buildings don't generally have the great toilet paper. Right. Right. Isn't that? Like the great stuff. You could buy for your house, which is like cushy, you know. Yeah. So I met at the wet wipe like I I'm in favor of it. Actually, I have I have dabbled in it before when necessary, but you know, it's luckily, I have kids at home. So it makes it easier to have you know, a ton stocked up. But I'd never seen it in the workplace before which was just kind of stunning to me. So but shout out to that person. Whoever you are, you know, maybe you already left home because it's five. Twenty in the afternoon, but you know, wet wipes are still in there. I didn't take out grab them. Okay. Go ahead funches. All you. I so Ruvubu you do news. You lose. I I'm going to get to the LeBron meeting of sorts, right or gathering. We're gonna call it a gathering, right? It was a gathering with him and magic and rob right? Yes. Okay. That's a fair way to describe like a mob gathered did feel that way. We'll get to that in a second. But we were talking about in trending a moment ago about Kawais. Moment in San Antonio were in the layup line Kawai was getting booed even before the game started. He was getting booed and they were cheering Danny green. Like that is the ultimate of petty. Like, Danny green was a good player for the Spurs. Don't get me wrong. He was also on that championship team. Hell the series. They lost joint thirteen hit like a ridiculous record amount of threes in that series. And he almost like catapulted them actually to the championship because they couldn't stop him. But this is how it all went down in San Antonio with Kawai and Danny green six from North Carolina number fourteen. Stay tune for one. What you title? Okay. He won the final MVP. He's a two-time defensive player of the year for your team. I could show them in a little respect. Like look. I'll just say this. Okay. I can only say this clearly Yano, right? Where I grew up. Right. So when the Brian left back to Cleveland his first trip back to play the heat. They did the video tribute. They cheered him on intros. And then during the game they booed him. And I thought that was the right way to handle it you now the enemy, but we're going to show you the love you want to championships for us. But then once the the ball tips were done, and you can't even do that of your San Antonio. I thought that was weak man, like really really weak, and it's funny because I've had this conversation with Ireland, and he said that when shack came back. They booed him. I don't that was not the case. I went back and watch that on YouTube shack was cheered when he came back here. And and I know Brian cabinet ski or Andy O'Brien one of maybe both. I'm actually text me about that that day when John and I had that conversation and that absolutely happened. He was cheered. So actually this week by San Antonio like really really weak forgot to help. I mean held. I mean, he was really the impetus for you winning a championship then. So anyhow, I so here's my thoughts on LeBron. Huddling up for lack of a better term gathering with magic and rob Pelinka in the tunnel. Now, I know Twitter had a lot of jokes yesterday about that gathering and them huddling up. But I'll say this. That's not a good sign if you're one of the young dudes. Okay. Because here's my speculation. Okay. This is just speculation on my part. But again, it's educated speculation because I know how these things work with LeBron. Okay. Let's just say it that way. And LeBron is hurt. He's going to be out for a while is my guess mcmenamin was in here yesterday and mcmenamin said on the air that he thinks that he could see LeBron missing ten games similar to what Steph missed when he had a similar injury. So in those ten games you're talking about almost two more weeks. Right. Like ten days more eleven days more twelve days more as far as the games are concerned. With that said, this is an opportunity for these young guys to prove what they're worth not only prove what they're worth to this particular roster, and this particular team on this particular season. But. I'll tell you for my money. I'm pretty sure LeBron and magic, and rob are looking at these dudes to see what they're made of because it could also potentially increase their trade value without LeBron because they can boost their numbers up teams can get a real hard look at what they're capable of without LeBron James on the floor because as we know it's not always as easy to play with LeBron. Right. Everyone has to play a different role. We've always we've used that. Channing Frye, quote, Channing Frye, played LeBron in Cleveland, and he had that quote in August reset. There's how you play the four you play with LeBron. And then there's how you play when you play with LeBron. And clearly we've noticed that. Now as we are what three months into the season. We're basically almost halfway point right now. So this if you don't think that this team like we've talked about them auditioning all year long this right now is a legit audition. They want those young guys to ball out, even if they don't win games necessarily. They want them to ball out. So that other teams like, oh, okay. Yeah. I can see what Brandon Ingram can really become if you give him the touches. And you let him grow into that role. He's only twenty one years old same with Lonzo. Right twenty-one. You kind of see the potential and maybe get a glimpse of that. Because we're getting near the trade deadline. The trade deadline is five weeks away. So if you don't think that that's part of the plan that maybe LeBron will sit out I'm not saying he's gonna sit out on purpose if he's healthy, but LeBron's gonna make sure damn sure that he's one thousand percent healthy before he comes back because they're going to have to try to make a big push. Because teams don't play well without LeBron in Cleveland, they were four and twenty three where he missed games the second time around, and that's Cayenne Kevin love. And the Lakers are now one in three. So I don't know if they'll be that bad, but it hasn't been good to start and Brandon Ingram has shown flashes of being a great basketball player, but all we've seen his flashes. A couple of nights ago when they won that game. Man that I'm with Ireland. That's the best game. I've seen Brandon Ingram playing a Laker uniform. But then you see yesterday you like all right. And Lonzo as good as he is a defender as the number two pick. You have to have a complete game. People are going to look at you in judge you based judge you based on that. And Lonzo doesn't look like a number two pick right now because he's not showing the consistency. Particularly on the offense of he's a baller on the defense event. But people there's no way to measure that other than hey, you can tell Russell Westbrook had a tough time. But nobody is going out there saying, yeah, I'm gonna go trade for a defensive specialist who can play really well transition. No, you you want that guy because he's supposed to be a game changer. He was the guy you're gonna put up at the rafters. And that's what you're selling. You're trying to sell that other teams. And they're not seeing it either with either guy, so this is a really telling time, and that's why when those three huddled up yesterday, and that's LeBron magic and rob. They weren't just mad at the result of that one particular game. They were not happy because those guys didn't look good even in the loss. And that doesn't help their cause of eventually packaging those guys and probably landing Davis. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN. We'll get to that. We'll get back to that. In a second. We also Danny aines taking a swipe at LeBron Celtic GM, Danny aines, not the first time. He's done it in his career. We'll have that audio for you in a bit Albert beer, Albert breer. Excuse me. I'm my mind somewhere else. My mind's on the dudes brew. Of course, the beer there. Albert breer my too. Of the Monday morning quarterback and Sports Illustrated. We'll talk to him about this cliff Kingsbury thing and Mike is USC really gonna lose him. Like, I want to know what Albert knows about this stuff. And we'll talk some playoffs with him as well. But first guys it's five twenty eight when you get home. What's the plan for the kids? 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So we've been talking for the last couple of days about this cliff Kingsbury story how he's getting NFL head coaching views and certainly puts USC at a precarious situation. So we wanted to talk to an expert a man who's got all the info album Breyer of the Monday morning quarterback joins us now here on ESPN LA, Albert, how strange is this like I feel like everyone heard kind of the you know, murmurs that that he could potentially get coaching interviews. But now that we're here like how odd is all of this. Hurry, strain. Now, I think it's pretty whereas teams really chipping into the college level to begin with. And there's a guy who's just got fired. And as an office coordinator, you know at another school and anything pursue for head coaching positions five. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. I I would tell you that it really is. I think this is what the NFL is going, and yeah, the NFL like forever and ever and ever was happening at the college level with the ride is as college your gimmicky, or whatever whatever they want to refer to it. And how you know over the last ten years really to become more and more open minded doing what they're doing at the college stealing concepts on the college, although to running thing because they don't wanna front war. Then that's a huge part of the exposure. We've seen it out there in LA was day. You see? Kansas City, we'll bat Nagy and Chicago. And so, you know, I think there are a lot of owners that are out there. You know, pointing to the Rams and the like that on TV and saying I want some of that. And so, you know, the easy solutions to go to where it came from. And a lot of came from you know, the area where Pat wh where where cook kings varies from you know, in the big twelve and right there in Texas. And if you want a list of quarterbacks marked with is pretty impressive and Johnny Mandel, Patrick, Mahomes, Davis laugh, and and and Baker Mayfield. And so, you know, I think it's just sort of you know, you're trying to think outside the box now turn NFL owner. And this is way way outside the bar. But it's not that difficult so usual course, and it seems really weird, but it's actually really flying. But when you look at what the NFL is gone, so people here, obviously want to know, what are what are the chances that he lands one in jobs? Because that would USC in a pretty big lurch. All of a sudden because all these OC candidates in the college world are getting scooped up now, and they may be left out to dry here. So what are the chances of him potentially landing the jets or accordance job? I go faith likely if we're a couple of reasons one in Arizona, they went with a guy who is one of your your last year and looks and why he tweets by cliff, Mike, my feeling has been all along they would try to find someone with a little more experience for your calls AM there. I know they'd love to gotten a shy Mike McCarthy s not gonna happen. But I think seven having somebody a little bit more experienced, and you know, how this stuff works George times one on what team say on one direction of only other direction altogether. The jets is interesting because I think that there is there are some people in upper management that really liked the idea of it. I still would be surprised I'm so, you know, this is great for class that he's gonna get in the room with some of these people. I don't think it's a horrible thing for her USC in the short term as long as you take one is that you've got this guy now going into what is it the last four weeks Saturday? He's actually tracking interesting. NFL teams that helps you sell your program. Ultimately, I think he probably winds up, you know, in LA coaching coaching USC in the fall. All right. Albert breer? The Monday morning quarterback. Joining us here on the Sodano show on ESPN LA. I saw a couple of other coaching rumors, and then we can move on to some of the playoff games row. Quick. So I'm reading today on social media that the Browns might be interested in trading for Sean Payton, like what do we know about that? The Browns and everything there. Everything was the Browns. I like I was just telling you that that search is wide open and want to pull every lever. They wanna look at every possible solution pieces to George is. You know, because they've been I mean over sixty coaching changes in the last eight years that the pipelines been run dry a little business fourth chance or take a little more creatively to the Browns really went into this. And they've been through it a couple of times the last few years with an open mind. And Gordon, I think creatively where do you think difference? So, you know, one solution is to try to trade for a sitting coach. And I you know, I still think it's completely open with John Harbaugh. And you know, Sean Payton certainly a name that's been out there as one who over the last three or four years to potentially being the move. I'd be surprised that surprised if Peyton for to leave New Orleans based on its current situation, they have a great traff class two years ago. Guys that can build around for a long time to count it out tomorrow or something I have more Ryan ramczyk and Marcus volumes. But I did this again like, you know, just similar to you know, going and looking at a college office of coordinators potential. I coach other example of teams being forced to think outside the box a little bit. And maybe do some things that they wouldn't otherwise. Otherwise, do the Harbaugh thing is crazy. I saw that they'd want to first rounders like who the hell is giving up two first rounders that this state. What's interesting about that, George like, I think a lot of like, I, you know, FIBA shoddy is probably six seven weeks ago on and look like they were driving towards, you know, the conclusion where there'd be unusual parting of ways and the owner that are Stephen shoddy step back and look at it and said to him, so wait a second. I'm hearing all about this. This spin coaching Martin how hard it's easy to find candidates. And you know at the same time on hearing that the guy in my building it's gonna be everyone's number one candidate. So why exactly would we walk away from him only to see five or sixteen file for him? And so, you know, I I think at that point either shy sorta hit the pause button on everything they put the state in our few weeks after that. And so I think the I think ownership there still is genuine about wanting to do some sort of deal, but remember nuisance out the door. Erica Cosmas going to do general manager, and it's a new organization now, and if different circumstances for John Harbaugh, and so if he does not sign an extension, then I think a lot of other teams are going to see that as a sign that he is willing to go. And then I certainly could see, you know, those teams sticking up the phone and trying to call the ravens and seeing if they can work something out. So it's a very very interesting one because it's it's not often that a coach like that come into the oval, especially when he was in the play offs. And I think a big piece of that. Of course, it's going to come down to timing because if he's knocked out of the playoffs this weekend. Could the open season on him is he in the ravens naked championship game. I would expect I would suspect the live teams moved on. All right now. Let's ask you about some of these games potentially coming up this weekend. And what maybe you think could be the best match for the Rams, I guess as they await their opponent. But let's start with that ravens chargers game. Do you believe that the chargers can go on the road and win that game? Yeah. And you know, I think this is an interesting one just because this is the first time the ravens have seen an opponent twice with Omar Jackson as a starting quarterback and think that's relevant because the ravens have sort of turned into navy, you know, over the last seven weeks and they're running option offense. It is unlike anything else in the NFL and it's worked to to to to to. I like to very high. If it's it's working the same as they haven't faced the team has actually been able to go and play them once comeback. Adjust look at the tape. Happy experience having played them and play them again. And so that's what's so fascinating about this one. I think that there is that disadvantage, of course is going across the country and playing ten o'clock body game five body clock game. But it'd be fans the charges have here is they're they're the first team that gets to see that Lamar Jackson offense for a second time. And it's gonna be really really interesting to see they're not Bradley, and and the staff there could find a way to force. Lamar Jackson the win that game through the year. Last question for you Albert Albert breer of the Monday morning quarterback with this year. What would be the most advantageous matchup for the Rams of the teams that could come out of the NFC this weekend in the wild card weekend? I I hesitate. I hesitate a little bit to say Dallas just 'cause the defense has gotten a lot better. But I do think it's probably the Cowboys just because I don't if the Rams are capable turning one of these games into a shoot at the Cowboys are probably of the four the least capable keeping up. And so, you know, the Cowboys just have such define style. Quite they wanna pull the game into a dark alley and. Yeah, turn it into a street fight, you know, saddle up behind Hezekiah Elliot on offense and play on defense. That's just that's been there formula. And I think that the sort of team where you know, if they're going up against a quick strike team. The Rams it can get on top here early to make it fourteen and nothing twenty one nothing early. They can be in big trouble. And so I would I I do the NFC brackets pretty deep, and it wouldn't totally shock me at any of those teams were able to win a couple of games in the play offs. I. The Cowboys have probably be the best match for the Rams on paper. Alva- Breyer Monday morning quarterback checkout, his work there. Follow him on Twitter is one of the best in the business. Thanks, man. For taking the time to hang out. Appreciate it. You got your you got it. There's Albert with us there. Right. So I'm going to kind of unpack some of this stuff. He said particularly about the Rams and chargers in a second. But coming up next if you missed it earlier, Danny aines takes a swipe at LeBron not the first time he's done that will let you hear it in just a moment. Shoutout to album breer of the Monday morning quarterback for joining us there. I am with him by the way on Dallas. I do think that Dallas. I'd rather see Dallas then Seattle if I'm the Rams, I certainly would rather see Dallas. Then the bears right because that's the team. I don't I don't necessarily wanna see you almost want the eagles to upset the bears. Right. And then that way New Orleans has the eagles. And you know that when the bears out of this bear scare me man for real. And the way the Seahawks are playing lately the run in the ball again, they their offense of lines little dinged up. So I'm not as fearful of them running the ball. Like, they they ran the ball for one hundred sixty yards at gang during the season number one in the league, and they had a kind of a resurgent offensive line because that was one of the achilles heels for the last couple of years why they couldn't run the ball because their offensive line was kinda stinky, but you know, between that if if they're healthy on the online, and they can run the ball and play defense. And Russell Wilson. You know, he's a top five quarterback in this league. And I think he's the best improvisational quarterback. In this league. I think that all of a sudden, you know, that's a scary proposition two. I don't trust that like, basically, that's what this boils down to right because the recipe for the Cowboys to win games is not that Prescott. It's basically run the ball with Zeke play defense and Dax not gonna make mistakes. He's a caretaker basically a game manager. He hasn't had a ton of games where he's lighting people up. Although the last time he was in the playoffs. They did like some people up. Now, there's a loss. But I mean he actually had a good game. But that's my point is that their recipe for success is not that Prescott. So I'd rather that be the case because his Albert pointed out in a shootout, I'll take my chances with Dallas bear scared me. Did they scare you? They still scare me a little bit. Oh, definitely. That defense is for real. Yeah. Exactly, man. I mean, they just had the Rams number man. And it's I I think it will be a different game though. You know, if the Rams can Sean McVay, can, you know, do what he does best. I think it'll be a different match up. I think it'll be a better game than it was before. Sure for Jeff. You're right though about the bears. Yeah. I think that. Look, sean. I still think I said it yesterday. I've said it repeatedly over the course of the season. I think he's the second best coach in the NFL behind Bill on the check. So I do believe even though he still learning on the job, and he admits his much, and I just liked the fact that he's open and honest about that he still, you know, the mkx Venus as far as I'm concerned. I appreciate you buttering me up your. You're welcome, Sean. So daddy age wasn't butternut. Lebron? That's for sure. So a little history between Danny aines in the Brown. Danny aines in two thousand thirteen made some comments about LeBron James and basically told they Boston radio station W E, I at the time that James had no cause to challenge officiating. Right. And that he was just that LeBron should stop complaining basically about officiating back in two thousand thirteen he went as far as to say, I think. The referee's got the calls, right? This is about a, you know, some games against Chicago. I guess back in the day and some issues that Carlos boozer hit LeBron or whatever yada yada, yada. So you may remember. You know, vaguely that Pat Riley once a four time Laker champion as head coach. And is kind of a g right? He's an OG first-rate g like salmon bay, we say straight as Sean McVay would say, but he's also an OG. Right. So he put out a press release through a team spokesman said Danny Ainge needs to shut the bleep up and he used the actual word f like the four letter word in the press release. Danny's needs to shut the F up and manages own team. He was the biggest winner going when he was playing, and I know that because I coached against him. So. Danny aines, then followed up by that in two thousand thirteen saying, 'i stand what I buy what I said, that's all I don't care about Pat Riley can say whatever he wants. So there's a history between angel LeBron. And it's not the first time and LeBron has obviously. Not Danny aines teams out of the playoffs a ton of times. So there's that too. So there's some animosity there. So Danny aines was asked about the LeBron comments about calling himself the goat. And if for whatever reason you've been in a cave and did not hear the more than an athlete program or watch the more than an athlete program or hear the audio on ESPN. Plus, and by the way, you could subscribe to ESPN plus for four ninety nine a month to hell of a deal. Especially if you'd like Cristiano Ronaldo or his games are there. Some good college games. A lot of stuff on there. This is what LeBron said on his show more than an athlete. He is surrounded there. It's him and his friends his business partners their childhood friends there his inner circle talking about when LeBron realized he was the greatest of all time that why did made me the greatest player vault Phanom hills. I was a super super ecstatic to win one for Cleveland because it a fifty two year drought like Alba's ecstatic like, obviously, the first wave of emotion was once every once on me cry like that was all for fifty two years. Everything's sports going on Cleveland. And then after I stopped. I was like damn right there made major the greatest player wall time. Not everybody was just how they were greatest team of all time. Like, it was the greatest team ever assembled for us to come back. You know, the way we came back and fashion. I was like you you did some special. That's why I wanted to only times in my career. I felt. Like like, you do some special. I haven't had really had time to really like sit back and think, but that that was a moment. Okay show. That's the moment. He felt himself. I've accomplished something that no one else. Did I broke the curse fifty some odd years Cleveland and cetera, blah, blah, blah, coup mission accomplished, right? So look, no matter what you think LeBron James is in that conversation, and Danny aines started this conversation on ninety eight point five the sports hub in Boston saying that. And then he went down kind of this weird turn comparing him to Donald Trump, the president of the United States who LeBron has had some issues with and chuckled about it. And just made a very strange comparison. Listen, I think obviously LeBron in every conversation with who is the greatest player of all time. And there's a handful of guys that are in those conversations that are considered to be the greatest like those ones. Kevin just mentioned. And I, you know, like his career is not over just like to, you know, why are you saying that I don't know, you know, maybe thinks that that that that sells maybe he's taken in the Donald Trump approach and trying to sell himself. I don't know. But you know, time will tell history. I I don't even know if anybody knows who the greatest of all time, it's because the years is different. Now. Here's the thing. As I mentioned there's a history between Danny Ainge. Lebron there's clearly a history between LeBron and the president of the United States, and I'm not trying to get into a political discussion here. Okay. I'm not trying to do that. But what I will say is an a caller reference this earlier, and whether you believe in this or not there is a sense that minorities, blacks and Hispanics. They're they've taken on bridge with some of the choices that the president has made both in maybe his policies. And in his choice of words at times. Right. Let's just to put it as simply as possible. Right. So and again, that's not a blanket statement, necessarily, but I would say the majority of minorities in particularly of Latino descent and in the African American community, that's the majority of those communities feel that way. It's seems very obvious at this point. So with that set again, not trying to necessarily have that part of the conversation that kind of becomes that comet? There becomes a bit of a molotov cocktail because of all those things that that I just mentioned right there. The latter portion the fact that LeBron himself has had his own run ins with the president on social media and trading barbs back and forth. Right. And the fact that Danny Ainge has had his own run ins with the bra. So you mix all those things together and you're going to have a bleep storm potentially. And because of that I. Think that Danny aines knew exactly what he was doing that little chuckle it he knows? And look I'm not even going to put it out of the equation that it's a Celtics Lakers thing to now. Okay. Like that also factors in to some extent. So I am just curious to see as to how the audience feels about this. Are the comments are responsible? Do you believe that they were targeted and pointed you believe there were nothing. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN eight seven seven seven ten three seven seven six not to mention coming up next as well. We've got some stuff on the dodgers and kind of the latest on where they're going and put could be heading as far as free agencies concern. So we'll have that for you coming up in just a sec. But I it's five fifty seven sports fans. What's the game plan tonight with your kids when you get home? Well, here's an idea. Do what we do talking reading singing, it changes, everything, man. Those first five years, man, they're tough. I get it. Okay. There's not a lot of sleep. And you have to try to pave the way for your children in those formative years and the brains stimulated in those first five years. So what we did? We went to I five California. I five California dot com. We went there. We learned about these processes and how to maximize the brain stimulation of our children, and it was that. It's just simply doing those things. I mentioned talking reading and singing to them. We do it with my three. 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Middle Finger To God

Unprecedented

35:33 min | 9 months ago

Middle Finger To God

"A heads up that this episode contains offensive language Yes. Unprecedented often uses Raunchy language and explorers intense themes. But today were giving you a little extra warning because there's a derogatory word that we could not avoid in telling the story when God brings a sword on a nation for it. Sin If you do not open your mouth and say stop sinning the next round. The blood is on your hands and the the only time the first amendment really matters in this country is when your speech is the dissenting troubling angering unpopular voice who needs the first amendment for God bless America. Do we have the constitutional right to be mean in our previous episode. We told the story of Hustler magazine. And it's inflammatory parody of the televangelist list Jerry Falwell but what if inflammatory. Words are directed to a private citizen to a grieving father at his son's funeral. That's Today's episode. I Matthew Schwartz I Mike Follow and this is unprecedented. Matt was a senior in high school when he came home and said that he saw recruiter at school and that he was interested in joining the military. This is Albert Snyder talking about his son. Matt said Matt. That's fine if that's what you WANNA do but I want you to take a couple weeks to really think about this. I said we're in the middle of a war with Iraq. It's not getting any better. He said okay done. He came back to two weeks later and said I decided I wanted to. I remember Matt with his big ears on the first time. I saw him with his Marine Corps hat on in dress blue. I saw the hat. But all you see really was the air sticking out from under and in December of two thousand five Matt came home to Maryland for the holidays. He broke the news to his family. He was being deployed to Iraq. Of course he tried to convince both his mom and I that I'm not GonNa be on the front lines. I think he probably knew and I think for myself. When he was home that Christmas I did sense a little bit a worry with him? So did he did he get something. The Front One's pretty much pretty much. It's different when there's a war going on and you have a child over there every time you hear on the news a soldier was killed old. You're wondering in the back of your mind was at mine wasn't mine was a mine. Matt took a video in the barracks one day in February wary of his Marine Corps Buddies. Just hanging out joking around. It's the last recorded sound. That Albert has of his son's voice in these little Jesus. Sleepy changed. Little Girl Sues March third two thousand. Six Matt volunteered for a convoy mission in Iraq's Ombo province that evening six thousand miles Dell's away back in the US. Al Was in the shower when the doorbell rang. And my initial thought was. It's my youngest daughter. She forgot her key. So I got out of the shower through bro on and I went to the front door and when I opened the door there were two marines there and and as soon as I saw them I knew why they were there. I'm Kinda hit you like I'm GonNa hit a brick wall the hard day or night are weak arguers. Now there's not a day that goes by that. I don't think that you know. I wonder what he'd be married twentieth. Children would have stayed in the Marine Corps. What would his life be now? What would be his contribution to society right now? Twenty Year Old Marine Lance Corporal Matthew. A Snyder was buried in his hometown of Westminster Maryland. On the morning of Friday March tenth. I remember that they immediate family went to the funeral home and set our last goodbyes to to Matt. I remember I was the last one out of the funeral home and we got into a limousine and we headed towards Saint John's John's Church. We had traveled down. Route one forty in Maryland which is a major highway and I remember they had. They had shut down. I'm basically and people were out of their cars standing there with their hands on their hearts and as we rode past the fire department the fire the department had their trucks out facing each other with big flag-draped it was. It was pretty impressive. It really was and it was offer for that yes it was. I also remember the children in Grade School at the church were standing alongside side of the road with signs. That said we love you matt as Albert Albert. Snyder was heading to Saint John's that day. What he didn't know what? The hundreds of other mourners on their way to the funeral didn't know was that another another group was also travelling to the church. This is margie. Phelps three adults and four children took a flight flight late the evening before they carry placards and artwork bags and drove to this relatively heavily. Small Town Saint. John's is on a large plot of land with several buildings including a school and the chapel on on the day of the funeral. The Limo driver didn't pull in through the main entrance which was weird. There was a little hill that that went over down the road like and then we wind up turning into a service entry of the church versus going into the main entrance entrance of the church. And did you know that point you were taking a different entrance to the church. Yes yes it was quite obvious because that was the church we belong to did you. Did you know why at that point. No our folks went to where law enforcement told them to stand got in that area really just about enough for those seven people to stand in at the tip of that property took out signs and for thirty to forty five minutes stood there holding signs singing as we turn the corner of the church from where I was sitting behind the driver of the Limo. I could see a lot of commotion a lot of Emergency Vehicles there and I can see the tops of the signs. I didn't see what the sign said. We did hear the chanting God. We heard it when we were getting ready to go into the church and at that point when they start chanting the group of bikers that came to the funeral would ravaged breath cycle in order to turn them to jail. Now now Matthew Snyder's family early had become the latest target of the Westboro Baptist Church which believes that dead soldiers are the price we pay for abandoning ending the teachings of the Bible and embracing Sinn Westborough gained notoriety for picketing and hundreds of military funerals over the years. Of course when Westboro borough shows up to a funeral so to do the news media and the cops and a group called the Patriot guard riders. who arrive on motorcycles and use large American flags to help shield the family from having to see the Westboro picketers mm-hmm deterrent the funeral into a surface? That's what they did because of their presence there were probably a hundred and fifty reporters on the ground. There were state police. There were county police. Yes there were sheriff's department. There was a swat team. Set up in a Winnebago. All we were trying to do was buried twenty year old kid. Margie Phelps is is the daughter of Westborough Family Fred Phelps and she's a member of the church. She says that it's common for the parents of a fallen soldier to wonder what's the point of the war. And why are our children. Dying Westboro shows up at these funerals to answer those questions and our answer is that because of policies of proud in Penitent San God has dragged this nation into a war that it cannot win. And you're sending the fruit of your nation onto the battlefield to be mangled and killed because you love your sin more than their lives and adding insult to injury when you encounter. That may him that awful sorrowful outcome. Instead of seeking God's mercy and forgiveness you lift up your flag which is the equivalent eight of lifting up your Middle Finger to God that is not a blessing that your young young son is lying in their dead. How do you get God? Bless America out of that scene when God brings a sword on a nation for its sin. If you do not open your mouth and say stop sending the next next round. The blood is on your hands. What is an IEP but a broken up sword that's our answer Westborough protested for about thirty minutes just until the funeral was about to begin when it start time for the funeral they loaded up the signs back into the bag and got in the vehicle and left and it was without incident. It's not always without incident after the funeral funeral Matt's grandparent's held a small wake in their home. Here's Albert Snyder. We were all down in their family room. And somebody said. Let's turn on the television station. That's working for you and see what they say about Matt because there were so many. Reporters are shocking. Protest at the most unlikely unlikely places the funeral twenty year old Lance Corporal Matthew Snyder tainted by the Westboro Baptist Church and that's when I saw the signs it's like a close up. What do you remember what they said? you're going to hell semper Fi fags. Thank God for dead soldiers. Tour's wonderful signs. God hates fags Temple Beth Saddam Ju- Fan Edition and I say thank God for dead soldiers. Sure that they raise their sons. The Devil Inhale. I'm sorry that starting on turn it off turn it off. And then he got himself killed over there and I just Kinda stood there with amazement. He's meant so margie. It's your belief in the belief of your church that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were were a result of I think tolerance of homosexuality and other sins. Are you sure about that. I mean most people would probably audibly attribute those wars to George W Bush or people in his administration. How do we know that it's directly related to God's this dissatisfaction? Am I sure about that. Are we sure about that. Were sure we can be we. Don't do any of this. Without a lot of introspection and a lot of seeking the Lord and a lot of searching the scriptures. Nobody ever take seriously the proposition that choose should be sober and righteous and study the scriptures and past the time of your so journey on this earth with a proper fear of God. God that is not on the landscape as a solution. But it's the only solution and it's what we humbly offer you and it's hope and it's life and it's piece so we're sure as we can't be the Westboro Baptist Church may they have been offering hope and peace but it wasn't received that way not by Albert Snyder for him. The message on those picket signs was personal apart from his son's death so there was something going on that. Nobody really knew about at the time you are at your son's funeral well and the Westboro Baptist Church as they do is holding up signs that say things like God hates fags and they don't know it no no no. But you're right. My my friends and family knew it And I think they could understand. Stand the intensity of you know. It was bad enough that that this was going on but they hated to see me and my I program my friends have to deal with something. So vicious set a few I had one opportunity to bury my son mm-hmm and it was taken away from me. He should have had a peaceful burial in the weeks and months following Matt's funeral Albert discovered that he wasn't able to reflect on that day without out thinking of the protest. He believed that Westboro had stolen from him. The ability the the right to properly mourn his son he he became anguished and tormented. Here's what he told. NPR's Nina Totenberg. This was the funeral. I shouldn't have to look away from anything thing at my own child's funeral these people targeted me and my family. I WanNa know how you would feel if somebody stood thirty feet away from the main vehicle entrance South Church when you're trying to bury your mother with a sign that says thank God for dead sluts. You tell me that shouldn't be illegal. You tell me that somebody has the right to do fat. Albert Snyder sued the Westboro Baptist Church for intentional infliction of emotional distress which is just another way of saying that someone was so mean their conduct so outrageous outrageous being an actual legal term meaning beyond Ndola Bounds of decency in society. Yeah if somebody is found to have crossed that line then they might be responsible for the emotional harm they've caused. And in this case a jury sided with Albert Snyder West Burrows protest was gonNA cost them ten point. Nine I think for the ten point nine million dollar verdict. Because it's a small price to pay to get this method America's do in front of the eyes of the whole world. You can't pay for bowl by liberty that heat adherence of the Westboro Baptist Church released a gleefully defiant video thanking God for the verdict against them. Again we thank God for the ten point nine dollars because it changes exactly nothing. The the soldiers are still dying. God still hates tags. America's still doomed. And you're going home and again way to go America put us on trial or religiously. You can't bring back one dead soldier. All soldiers have been an are dying in vain. Thank God for ten point nine million and again Jan Eh Westboro may have been publicly praising the verdict but they were also appealing healing. It will Westboro have to pay nearly eleven million dollars for being mean coming up after the break. The Supreme Court gets the last judgment Hating coward except locked Barracks Body Parts and George Abbey Goose Martigues. It's on the morning of October. Sixth Two thousand ten members of the Westboro Baptist Church out picketing and singing parodies. Not at a funeral this time but outside the Supreme Court where oral arguments in Snyder versus Phelps were about to start when can picketers at a military funeral funeral be sued for inflicting emotional distress on the family of a dead soldier the US Supreme Court struggling to decide if it was a terrible thing to do do it. was they have to decide if it was free. Speech on the part of the protesters reporters asked whether the Stanley ever considered the Snyder. Family's feelings is crying out your for your same and no shame. You're going to have On your crazy trae. That's our answer about feelings stalk worshipping your feelings and start obeying God. NPR's Totenberg covered this case back in two thousand ten and she remembers feeling puzzled by the methods of the Westboro Baptist Church Reverend Phelps who I interviewed was of the opinion that the United States was going to hell because it tolerated homosexuality and even though in this case the young man who had been killed in Iraq there was no suggestion he was gay. It was the idea that this was a funeral of somebody who had participated in the United States military action in Iraq and therefore was going to beat damned in Hell because of the United States toleration of homosexual behavior. Now if that sounds rational to you it certainly never did to me but I want to try to put put myself in their position and to me it does make sense if you accept the premise that God has a certain way that he wants us all to live and we society are Violating his rules. He's going to punish us. And that might be by killing our soldiers that that make sense right that logical thought progression. I mean it would make much more sense to pick it the institutions. So what doesn't make a lot of sense to you is was just who they're choosing right. Pain is just. It's not the same as saying I disapprove of. Let's say gay marriage or even a homosexual lifestyle and therefore I'm going to pick your restaurant. Let's say because you you know you have a lot of gay customers you cater to them. I may not approve of that but I understand it the things that Reverend Phelps said I sat in a small booth doing this interview by phone and I I just sort of emerged after. I don't know twenty five or thirty minutes going. How do I make sense out of that? How do I do tad more to the point? How does this Supreme Court make sense out of that? You'll hear argument I today. In case zero nine seven fifty one snyder versus assist Phelps does the First Amendment protect the Westboro Baptist Church from being sued for intentional infliction of emotional distress when they inflicted that distress on a private citizen. A father who was merely trying to remember his son with dignity. Mr Chief Justice May please the court here is Albert. Snyder's attorney Sean Summers. We're talking about a funeral if context is ever going to matter it. It has to matter in the context of a funeral. Mr Snider simply wanted to bury his son in a private dignified manner. Right now the roar stuck with is hostage versus Falwell for intentional infliction of emotional distress but the rule out of hustler that it's okay to be mean to public public figures. That doesn't fit the situation. Here's Justice Ruth Bader GINSBURG questioning. Sean Summers Acclaim is it. Four was a public figure and decided family is not so I think what I got from your brief is you don't fall onto That case because you're not dealing with the public figure that's correct justice Ginsburg the private targeted nature of the speech in our judgment is what makes unprotected so matt. Let me see if I have it right. The WESTBORO baptist. Church was being mean to the Snyder's or inflicting emotional distress on the Snyder's however you wanna put it and the Snyder's are a private family at a funeral funeral. They are off limits. That's what Snyder's attorney is arguing. That's right that's what Snyder's attorney saying that if you're really mean to a private person you can't just point to the First Amendment and say it. Lets you do that. Of course that's that's for the Supreme Court to decide right. There's another argument coming on the other side the attorney for the Westboro Baptist. Church argues is that it shouldn't matter if you're a private person that speech about public issues can be directed at anyone even regular people even the family of a dead soldier no matter how mean that speeches Oh and by the way the attorney for the Westboro Baptist church none none other than Margie. PHELPS PHELPS MR chief justice may it please the court when members of the Westboro Baptist Church entered an ongoing public discussion in direct connection with the deaths and funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They did so with great circumspection. I believe that the umbrella of protection under the First Amendment that this court has established firmly is speech speech on public issues. Sometimes you get under that umbrella because it's a public figure but the umbrella that you give the protection for is speech on public issues. So Margie. Phelps is arguing that it doesn't matter if Albert Snyder and his family are private people what what matters is that we're talking about public issues political issues ideas war gays in the military abortion this gets the highest amount of First Amendment protection even if it upsets people because that all speaks to how we want to organize ourselves elves as a society. Yeah it's called core political speech and it's always been protected no matter what but should it be even when the target of that speech is a grieving father during the oral argument. A major concern among the justices. was that really. Almost anything can be a public issue if you frame it that way. How do we want the umbrella of the First Amendment to be so broad? Here's Justice Anthony Kennedy all well listen a pluralistic. Society Body have components to our identity Republican. They're Democrats were Christians or eighty s We're we're single or married. You're older young any one of those things you could turn into a public issue and follow up and take a person around making that person The the target talk of of your comments well but again. This court has given substantial longstanding protection to speech on public issues issues and how could it be gainsaid that the dying soldiers is not on the lips of everyone in this country and it is a matter of great public interest. And why they're dying and how God is dealing with this nation and so this little position is that you can take this and you can follow any citizen around any point not follow that you should help us in finding some wine. Yes I will help you. Justice Kennedy and. I'm pleased to do that because we don't do. Follow around in this church which we were a thousand feet away seven picketers out of sight out of sound. Margie Phelps saying yes it's true you can turn most issues into policy discussions but as long as you're not actively following someone around which would be harassment. I guess right. Yeah as long as you maintain a respectful distance. Your speech should be protected where speaking on issues of public concern in public places complying with all of the limits that the United States Supreme Court Art has imposed. We don't get up in anyone's grill. We don't try to force the words on anyone. We don't engage in civil disobedience. We don't intrude into private matters in private places. It's the ultimate protected speech and the only time the first amendment really matters in this country is when your speech is the dissenting troubling angering unpopular voice. Who needs the First Amendment for God bless America for a case where the justices seemed so conflicted? During the argument the result was overwhelming by a vote of eight to one the court ruled that the First Amendment protects the right of the Westboro church members to speak their mind. No matter how mean those words might be that multi all time million dollar judgment against Westboro gone in a ruling today from the Supreme Court came this reference to the First Amendment. This nation has chosen to protect even hurtful speech on public issues. NPR's Nina Totenberg reports. And we should warn you this story. Today's eight to one ruling may surprise some people but not First Amendment scholars. Whether right or left they note that today's ruling falls right in line with others protecting the rights of fringe groups from Nazis marching in skokie burners at a Republican convention. Here is chief justice. This John Roberts delivering the opinion. If there is a bedrock principle underlying the first amendment it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an the idea simply because side finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable westworld believes that America is Morally Orleans. Flawed many Americans might feel the same about Westville West. Burrows funeral picketing is certainly hurtful and its contribution the public discourse may be negligible but Westboro address matters of public import on public property in a peaceful manner in full compliance with the guidance of local officials speeches powerful it can stir people to action move them to tears of both joy and sorrow and and as it did here inflict great pain we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker as a nation. We have chosen chosen a different course to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate so that choice requires that we shield Westboro from tort liability for its picketing in this case Margie. Do you understand how the speech that you engaged in at this funeral could be never mind offensive or inappropriate or outrageous -rageous or any of those arguably subjective terms but simply painful to a grieving parent. I I really have to you say to you with all humility. You've got to be kidding me. This man is standing there looking at his young mangled son and you think as suggesting that the policies of this nation caused caused that is more pain for him than that blow. God just dealt him. What we are trying to do is stop the pain so now I I can't give any serious credence to that? Well I guess this is the sort have cognitive dissonance that I'm wrestling with. I believe that you're motivated by a genuine and even generous desire to save souls but why not say something like God condemns homosexuality or God does not appreciate divorce instead of God. Hates fags in other words. Help me reconcile why it is that you use that right. Incendiary language like thank God for dead soldiers. In order to make your point we have been picked picked to death about how we were the signs. And that's good. I'm I'm not complaining about that. I'm telling you that to say we literally every every month sit down as a body and talk through how we were these signs. Every word on every sign is scripturally surely proper the fact that it is loathed. By and in Penitent Bible rejecting nation is to be expected. It did if you watched your child starting to run out into a highway and you didn't snatch him back with every force severe being. You'd be hateful but we're trying to do the same thing about eternity and that's not hate. That's brotherly kindness. That's brotherly love. When the Supreme Court decision came down Albert Snyder was really the angry at the justices? Maybe it's the time that's passed but for whatever reason he sees it differently. Yeah now my son fought and died for freedom of speech and I do understand what they did and I may not have. When the decision came down I remember being very upset but the reality set in store to reflect on everything turn and I realized that the Supreme Court made the right decision as painful as it was Unprecedented is produced at WMU and edited by Ponzi Roach. Ben Private is our audio engineer. Andy mcdaniel is WMU's head of content WMU's general manager is J. J.. Yore if you like the show so tell a friend better yet. Tell a bunch of strangers by leaving a review on Apple podcasts. Or you know wherever you get the show. If you have any thoughts or feedback on the show send us a tweet with the Hash tag accidental guardians. 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"Welcome back. I hope you've enjoyed some of what we're trying to figure out on on our podcast. Say What happens the podcast where you can see what happens because as we're going through life <hes> I think that <hes> we're essentially observers and we are also so <hes> involved in it as well and I think we're participants with new participant observers and trying to while you participating in trying to be in it at the same time you can't help observing it and sometimes you got to go back and forth and so that's going to be some of the stuff we're going to talk about this time. What are we going to talk about and my let me introduce my good friend and the new writer for C._B._S.? What does it tell us about you? Do you show the writing on its with Matt Leblanc Yeah so I'm ready for a new show. Man Plan not new show. It's been offered through foresees fourth season. That's a successful show new to me. I'm new to me. I've never had a sitcom gun of the fourth season four. That's my first question was like why didn't you just make a plan. Yes yes you would think would ruin everything because it would ruin everything because the whole point about it. It's easy to to not have won. I mean how do you keep going by four sees. What did they tell you what you gotta do? They changed the ARC in Arkansas Brilliant. I actually watched every single episode in preparation. Yeah I watched I got C._B._S.. Nobody else ever did that who got onto a sitcom. I'm writing I for show me your professional. I go. I go deep yeah. You're not a you're. They're lucky to have you over there but I really got. I really went deep and I was locked in and they do good arc's like things really change and I have a structure right. It's nice to have a structure. You have kids so. Do you think that that's prepared you for this show as kids in it beyond its those the best story pitches are not the ones I stay up writing late. They're the ones where Charlie calls me in the morning Charlie and just just drops a gift off to me. Just a gift like some little tidbit that happened or that's that's. What kids are you know they're gifts but no what they are is? They're not like we have to like unlearn stuff that they just I mean I call it like when I see I have a two year old and your youngest is four now. Yeah Miles your youngest son my two year old I mean I literally can ask her. She's two and a half almost he's going to be three in a couple of months by literally soon as Patricia and I always like to ask you do you remember being in the womb really and we'll go like you know winning off. She's lying or just going yeah. She understands a question wow but she does kind of <hes> crazy easy but none of it she does kind of look and think about things as it. What are you remember like I do remember like one of the first conversations that like her older sister who's six now six and a half and ask <hes> she would just automatically think about reincarnation Asian in in just there wasn't even part of her? It was just a many thing learned Igloo what she say well. She would just say things like daddy when you are when year <hes> when I'm old and you and you're and and you're a baby again <hes> I don't want it well. That's beautifully and that her cousin saying the same thing or cousin who's like three and a half ago when you're a baby again and also it just kind of just makes sense. I'm not saying that that's like you know they know for sure right. It just seems like it makes sense to their logic and their their you know it's weird to save three year old or two and a half year old has a world view yeah but there is this thing called foundational thinking and they kind of do and there's your indoctrinated into a system the thought everybody is and you have to have some philosophy of way of interpreting what's happening in your universe in Europe experience or you're going to go mad or you're GonNa go to what we're GONNA. Talk about soon and is it possible. She said you'll be a baby against cement. You'd be lying helpless with the diver is possible because I don't want. I'm not going to say exactly what she meant. Because I have no idea but I will say going back to now talking about philosophy and where we want to talk about a little bit is <hes> mm Albert Camus who one of his most famous things he thought the great existentialist. He said they really the only important. What is it exactly? I'M GONNA screw it up. The only important question in life it is who is Albert Albert came came you the only really important question life is whether or not to kill yourself. Wow that yeah I'm looking for his exact. That's a big one yeah we'll because basically if view of the world is cold heartless ugly place and this is you know this is coming from a guy who's like live through like the you know he was in the resistance against the Nazis so you had to find some belief something live in some some cornerstone of of hope and if you don't have that then you should kill yourself. Basically I'm not saying in in this is what God or whatever form of just saying that there is something you've got to cling to absol- otherwise it's madness give her <hes> Viktor Frankl's man's search for meaning the guy in the concentration camp. Oh yeah who finds a way to become. He feels superior mentally to the guards. His wife dies within his first couple of weeks. There has been no but he continues to talk to her is if she's there Anybo- got out and he's a brilliant guy and he wrote a book that helped thousands of people and that was his thing that kept him yelling well as a matter of fact it was just an Franks would have been her ninetieth birthday gary anything using last week a passer Carlson. Let's you know it's not that long ago. Let you know it's not that long ago. That was Jamie Lisov who said that by the way you can reach him. He works for a C._B._S.. Now man with the plan season for maybe last this season that nobody Anne Frank makes you realise not that long ago yeah and frank who just would have turned ninety. The little Dutch girl wrote diary of younger on her event Frank Divan Franken was originally Nicole Darby young girl but anyway so I felt weird reading it 'cause it's like young girls diary yeah well by the book comes with tiny key but she she would have been younger. She would have been younger than my mom was still alive. Live Pilar while ninety also were survivor during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines so anyway these lights subjects. We'll talk about today. See what happens when you see what happens when you subjects but yeah but that's why like I mean <music>. I'm still understanding my mother more and more now than ever you know thinking about like what she went through or could have gone way. You know the what what the that life would have been like trying to imagine that now still any gives you doesn't it gives you a little bit of context to maybe some of the things we didn't forgive them for that. Now you get older and you go well. I don't know how it reacted going through all those things yeah. I just feel like you know you think about America you know I was talking to my friend a barber low Fisher today about that and she was <hes> uh she's an incredible person. She was talking about. How America really doesn't have a memory of actual tyranny? I mean you have like really America's been protected by two gigantic oceans for most of its history so if you think about it except for like <hes> you know Pearl Harbor Right nine eleven any attacks on American soil you know so it's there's there's no real memory of that <hes> that tyranny and in some ways this kind of I guess over privileged aged Americans is is is is part of I think <hes> but some of the issues that we're dealing with today absolutely we've had a pretty good yeah. We've had a pretty damn gun and maybe took it and I think they were talked about like independent thought and how <hes> you know truthfully like you know the schools don't encourage teaching doesn't encourage independent thought as much now as it does just like hey multiple choice memorize stuff right and <hes> you know it doesn't teach as much I remember the dumbing down of America seems like it's a it's occurring that is such an interesting point. Do you think multiple choice was created from these people are insane the craziest Shit. Let's just give him four four options well. I I do think it's <hes> if you do give them options then they don't have to really think right right I mean because you doing the thinking for them and so on so in essence is just some for gross phone with of of <hes> memorization so I think in some ways hello well look who's here you beautiful wife Patrizia Patricia Schneider. How are you we started? We're keeping it light. We're keeping alive. We're talking about reincarnation the we're talking about. You know what Miranda I think she was talking about was the first thing she said Daddy. When you're when you're a baby again and I'm old remember what do you think about the <hes> that's crazy? I said just saying that to say that or does he really think that that's our worldviews. What I think you know I really I really believe she? She thinks that yeah and and it's okay. I can't wait to be a baby again. I mean it's just just having to walk somewhere to shit. It's like enough yeah speaking of that we have this that speaking of that and we are we don't have we don't have our our youngest child. Madeleine is not diapered the train the image she's not she's still in diapers potty train okay so we usually not even diaper train. What does that mean shits everywhere she just well? She's still walking around with it so we have this receptacle that we had from the first baby I mean she's going to be pissed off when she sees all the pictures of her in the same clothes that are sister war. When will that pissed off me? You didn't have that because he had an older brother. Yes yes shooting. 'em Your Mom and dad probably psyched to have a little girl so the dressed her up Imbaba but we're giving pretty much all the clothes you has yes. I was kind of regurgitated clothing pretty much. Madeline is getting everything like she's using the same crib. Oh yeah the teeth if marks of Morandi stand up but she was a baby literally misuse everything she had all this kid's going to be amazing. Look at look at you. Just you can choose using your teeth stand up. Kids incredible turns out she didn't. Even have teeth. She was like a gumming turtle like strung gums. They say by eighteen months. You want your kid to use their teeth to stand up. That's one that's one of the mark the markers rollover speaking what marks the markers is the. She's got this thing which is another hand-me-down. It's the diaper receptacle which is really. I mean like I mean I took it out. There was like you know because it just it's where you put the number twos in which is I think a mistake to have that upstairs first of all I walked by and it's like my welcome my fucking homeless guy in an alley right now it is I have kids and I don't know what diaper receptacle is now. It's like a mistake and no is not actually it's better than why just throwing them. Big believe me. I've been around more diapers than you know if you have them in a regular garbage cans. It's like a seal. Put Weeden more supposed ask the question. What why are we talking about this again? It's a podcast. We can talk whatever we fucking. Okay okay so let's continue this. We know we took note of what to talk about. In the top of the list of Kids Shit yes so what we did though I remember because I was just at the play destination up the street here and with Mel and I had the change she just right at the play destination little playground she decided that was the place for a dump Blah when you change danger. Do you call a patty. Do you drive back to the house now. I'd actually did the OH. I didn't change her in the bathroom. Because you know you got me freaked out about how gross those are so I just literally took her in the nursery room and just later down there. It was just easier you know and she's she can talk to you while you're changing because he's almost three for crying out loud right because James me okay. I need that billow was okay and you can't from my head okay later. Okay okay new change me now. I live my legs anyway. Okay so then after and I go to throw it in the garbage idiot big sign not don't throw your kids poop in this thing please. I've seen that sometimes it's a picture of a baby shitting like across through it. Yes exactly exact- that's the sign magic shop that make that so anyways that thing works is good is it okay rob changed her in the nursery nostrum. He's not supposed to change. They're probably used contaminated. The plays glaze where where MOMS breastfeed their kids probably did yeah but you know what that's Rob Rob. I don't I don't feel I never go by the rules. Rule might never seriously though I was taught that my dad would never go by the rules really he would like cheat or whatever my mother would like. You know my little Filipino mom she would like pretend not to speak English and a big and just cut right in front of lines of the movie theaters like mom don't do that embarrassing all right but hurry up give us the tickets tickets quick Rob Schneider Schneider Story. It's five fifty five pm on a week day on a Friday and Patty comes on and says Oh my God. I forgot to get my license and Ragas. Let's swing by the D._M._v.. Google go. You can't close at six. There's plenty of time. It's four minutes away. Doesn't anybody talking about. It doesn't make any sense D._M._v. takes hours. You wait in these lines. Whatever it's like we left it? <hes> six o'clock with your license. He walked into made friends with someone. You're waving someone you cut in line but everyone was like encouraging you like Oh robs licensed. I will say there's very few advantages to being famous that was that's one of them that and getting a passport does advantages. I don't think so it's kind of a hassle. Even now you love it. How do you feel about it to be honest like I do feel that embarrassment that probably you were feeling when you were a kid with your mom? Oh Yeah I get that you know like just darasing feeling but then when I get myself I'm like fuck. It's nice it's worth it. It's a sense of over privileged or what are you. Yeah absolutely okay so we love it. Let me tell you a quick story. I don't WanNa hear the we were in our honeymoon. We went to this beautiful island. Heynen island is the name of that island yeah yeah we're at it's not there's another name for it to Sanya Island. I it's a it's a beautiful island that the Chinese are trying to keep a because they have like a middle class now which is significant middle class middle class in America. Maybe got forty million people. Whatever you gotTA middle class in China you got four hundred million people and these people wanna go on vacation? They got factors over there. They're working middle class. They WANNA go on vacation and so they ended up going to like Taiwan which is not keeping the money tied. The Taiwanese government gets keep their own money so they Sanya island is this resort island that they're building and they're all have built for tourists for mostly Chinese tourists in Ariz- beautiful so we went was yeah so anyways we go there John now John China China and nobody knew who rob was in Deir resort over in the resort yeah and I saw what did you see dude rub yes because he's used to that. You know the treatment sure those one of our episodes real well. He didn't get it and that that that do come on accepted yeah. Well not not anybody speaking ingles also it's kind of you know in China and not <hes> how dare I know exactly yeah. I'm GONNA taxing just no communication yeah yeah but that was that was interesting to observe can even example well now. He was really upset. Among Russian people recognize me the resort outside remember outside Ohata was which flies everywhere and it was like mosquitoes bit like fifty times on my face yeah yeah that was that was one of the things that he really and also and also you. You started you. Enjoy this really bad sunburn number like really bad because like that's the thing like I'm twenty years younger than rob so i WanNa do things sure her. I didn't want to say in the rooms trying to trying to kill me. She's trying to kill me on our honeymoon when you get older. It's tough to do stuff. They'll be exposed to the sun well yeah now well anyways I wanted to go out and then you know we were like playing football like just tossing a football in the water diving for yeah the ocean on the beach five hours later every five hours later Rav looks like a lobster. Yeah we erase some of those pitchers because they look potentially. I don't know racist and someone look like if I took a picture with. Maybe it was never gonNA work again again if he if he tweeted pitcher you'd Never GonNa work again. It's like what I'm just how I looked. This look happened. Actually Yeah Yeah Rob. Thanks that if you've been iger with paper right this is an all oh Filipinos and it works by the way it's an all Filipino cure for summer or well. I don't know if a cure issue but it definitely takes away the pain. The idea is like the the heat rises to the top so if you put like my mom did when I got sunburn we got some rain so bad I had when I was a kid because my grandma used to go to Hawaii. My grandfather lived over there. We get so sunburn that literally our skin would come off in like sheets and like I got <hes> I remember my mom's you'd see rip up paper Bags Brown paper bags dip it in white eight vinegar. Put the put it on her back in the heat would go out of our skin into the paper bag okay and that was the secret feel better. We didn't have <hes> what do we have toilet paper. He Toilet Paper with Vinegar Rob Schneider the mummy so then I we had to go out and get vinegar in China. Imagine like you know I'm in the cabinet. Even tell them how to get the go to the C._V._S. and China here in San Ya Island so anyway we ended up getting vinegar and then I ended up. I don't know what we got but we got hotel. I so anyway then I tell you that they had the now. We're show Kulich many anyway. You got a debilitating somboon from parents not parenting. We were got arrested for that by the way she could have right. She did grandma molly which I came from Russia. What do you mean she was in well? He came San Francisco and she'd never ever seen the sun before because she's from the fucking Ukraine wow and so she went to the adver does vape Papon's amazing showdowns a&V may be fine the beach the next thing I know my son Fred which is like a nine hundred the ten name you name. It gets rid of Ninth Fred. That's like you know. I don't know what you'd call it now blake or whatever with okay so anyway so fred uncle Fred got severely sunburn so bad they had to go to the hospital and they said who the fucking mountain his kids so child abuse yeah so they they she got arrested. Flynn eight one time vibe even though if us from Ukraine from Kiev first time the weekend we take the keep we never been to the beach before so we ran through the factory never been to the B. While so anyway but if so you got really burned one. Would you get burn debilitating sunburn could not walk strips of skin same thing but our cure was bathtub shaving cream wow they said it would it would draw out the heat and honestly it felt no different. Okay let me tell you though this is a true. Also this is a good one potato peels okay in in the TUB in a really hot water and then you get in the water when your son God yeah but I don't know maybe it's the water but it's it's definitely potatoes. It's potatoes and potato peels and you in the water and it it's supposed to be held to the burn. It makes a beautiful soup. Exactly you know what never tried them. Milk cow milk milk. You GonNa get cap milk what he's been flax milk. You now have as you can get like almond milk coconut milk and you get Sun Burns. You want to do this then you gotta go there thrown around the word milk loosely yeah they are. I don't think that's I don't know yeah we give their milking them in San Jose as the piss off most of the time you still this whole vagrant Izzo Vegan thing vague and say you almost had a different word solve again ah again ah thing that's Oh Vegan it beginning Lina these guys I would just say that there's never been long term studies for veganism. You know there has been for vegetarianism but there's never been like you know twenty or studying like we would be being a Vegan and I you know Patricia because the friends who are vegans yeah. I have a couple of million. There's like there's a good way to do. It and there's like obviously there's a better way. There's a worse way obviously in everything you can do like <hes> you know like a Vegan and you can do that very unhealthy Vegan. You can do a very healthy you don't like a meat eater and also you can do the unhealthy one so I just saying like some people just throw themselves in through a new Fad Louis L. or like a diet style but without actually going to a nutritionist so they just think that it's okay for themselves. You know like did just go online and see like okay. I'm GonNa what is it like I mean is this a weird equivalent but looking. Oh you Jamie on. I'm GonNa talk about steroids or is it the same thing like somebody because he's a bodybuilding never experience. I know he never did you are never the bodybuilding steroid guy but but you know some people some guys who would take steroids but not work out. Oh absolutely it does not it. Doesn't it what you gotta do hard but but guys would do that. They just thought get swollen or whatever yeah well. They just get fatter right. Yeah the fatter. I have a question about Vegan's food. <hes> why would you make you go to the store and Vegan section and you'll find a Vegan hotdog. Why would you shape your vegetables like your least favourable thing you would want to eat as well? I just think if you try to talk Cleveland doing something I guess you WanNa okay that makes sense the transition yeah I mean the thing is is the idea is like well. This tastes like chicken. It's so close to chicken. I mean we you kind of fall for that and then you're eating this thing like you like that place. That's a fake vegetarian. The fake organic place Jesus is not fake you in studio city. It's fake it used to be just a regular Thai restaurant and then there's the one day they said organic now because they heard you say. Is there again it the foods as anyone who wasn't organic but because it doesn't change the flavor I mean they rented a panel size. Just want with nobody. She says she cannot just claim that you're inorganic place. You have to prove that you're ganic and you prove that through your receipt of broaders that you're buying. Have you ever seen a receipt when you're over there no okay but I wanted to do once in Panetta's so you and I wanted to make organic bananas and for your information. Yes somebody actually advice. You gave me that advice. If you WANNA prove the weight to prove it is to show all of you okay and that was just for farmers market now imagine if you WanNa have a place a fake organic joining the best thing this'll make you laugh. You like this'll make you happy I get my bag right of <hes> like vitamins and stuff from the last Adam Sandler tour he's got he's the not Vegan at all. He's getting healthier but like literally like we have like Hey we got bug spray. You know and that's not the bug spray. I'M GONNA use it works. It's probably way more effective but I said I'm going to get up early tomorrow. And I'm GonNa go to you know the health food store and I'm going to get like the you know the safer birt's bug spray or whatever the hell it is you know and so I got that and I and that's what I use because like literally performing outdoors like ten fifteen thousand people people and so I'm spraying. My you know the stuff that got all over me anyway and I got it in my bag right and the same bag anyway I just made us some tea right so the thing leaked out literally all of the tea bag and I'm just tasting tea bag tasting bug spray and do you know who loves a Burbach Frei. WHO's that bugs? You know I mean. I think that there's some products that are better yeah but some of them I have to say don work. You can lose the here's the thing though like you'd never use bug spray and they just avoid you. There's something right is there's gotta be some like and they're like a gland or like a yes or something like that vitamin B. Three or six. They know me they vacancy through in there like five days. We're not GONNA I am. I'm on our lives. Go there. I on the other hand attract. No one will get bug bites and I return with hundreds of. I never get not sure what you told me in your honeymoon. You got a bit like one hundred times on your pink long time my Pinky I mean this is not an exaggeration and it was insane. It was a swollen thank you but we did good azan Kuta beach which means mosquito beach <hes> yeah Karoo Yeah Xanada yeah. That's when you need someone speaking Spanish in your life to tell you don't do that was recommended by my wife's ex-boyfriend true story. You know what there's a place of Northern California. Ah called Alameda de Las Vegas. I Dunno this is the land of the Fleas Really Limited Dallas bogus yeah so what happened was there. Was this guy a port Portola was just going around. He was a Spanish explorer kind of figuring out he was the one discovering places where people live there already but he covered California was Mexico. Yeah I know but he was he's. He's Spaniard this this part of Mexico which is Spanish Mexico back then uh-huh and then he was discovering he discovered <hes> San Francisco Bay Portola whether people living up there oh I discovered this place excuse me people and <hes> and he got really bad <hes> attacked by fleas and this particular particularly in San Francisco was a swamp kind of place as when he he discovered that from this hill in Pacific actually which is now which is but anyway I digress again so see what happens so we before you jumped in here uh-huh yes. We're we're talking about a few things. It's basically philosophy and they were talking about something. That has a see what happens yeah. Well just happens day. Yes what Kinda like say. What happens what we were talking about that a little bit but I think this is how you find yourself in life? What happens to you is the thing that like? How much did you think is in your control how much you think he's destiny? How much do you think is your own your own free will and how much if you look back on it? I mean like you know when they astronauts on the moon looking back. They just one thing just plan. It didn't see separate things right you know so the idea that like you're in control of your life when you're like spinning around on this spinning around a fireball of this insignificant rock in the middle of this suburban part of the universe <hes> so it is crazy in a rob telling me want when you write an airplane and you hit turbulence and you find yourself gripping on to the armrest is if you somehow have any control over any of issues. That's the way life crazy yeah. No one's your end up yet. Go letting I'll explain you later. Okay measure. I think means you're fucked basically but at the same time go with it if you can't fight it if you're not control of it then just go with it instead of struggling struggling with it because the idea I think a lot of people have is they struggle and they feel like they need to be in control of something. When they feel out of control they feel a sense of struggle and whether I think what we talked about before we started this tonight was a sense of the staying in the middle which is a Buddhist Buddhism? Is The middleweigh not getting too out there getting too low. You know and just kind of stay in the Middle Yeah. It's hard to not well then the whole thing about live is it's fun. It's exciting. Whatever so you want to get super excited you want to get in the end? If you can get super excited you can get super depressed and like the idea of is done that swing out too far and then but how fun is that though if you're not swinging out is fun that's the thing about showbusiness which is so exciting. I think which attracts I've always said showbiz attracts people Komo susceptible to it in other words the people who are who suffer the pitfalls of fame and the pitfalls of of <hes> of losing fame having famed dealing with it and are the same ones that most attracted to it are the ones most susceptible all to run what it can do to you in the negative and positive way you know and so I think those extremes are what's exciting about it. When it's happening you know and it's interesting because sometimes you know Jameel call from the road and just as like I when you tell at me like I'm F and murdered tonight and it was like the most incredible feeling and then the next the next show could be like? I just don't know what I'm GonNa do with my life. Now isn't that incredible those highs I called rob from the mall of America which great place <music> Minnesota and I remember calling me go dude. I just I mean there weren't that many people there but I like the greatest show of my it was fifty people but they were all with me in the next day called when I was like there's a shoe store hiring and I was considering it'd be good at that. I swear word of God that happened to me the other night. I felt like what the fuck am I doing with my life. I can't believe the next night like okay. I got this but the point of the part that's fun. Is that you never if you think you really got something then you're lost you know. I think you have to like a member of the Great. Dana Carvey gave me like when I was young. Comedian gave me always the best advice you know he always said you know never let people know how hungry are you can. Just keep that to yourself. It's okay to be really hungry. But you don't tell people that and it was just great to just hear this guy and like and to see that this guy was the most talented guy there's two guys most talented guy ever come out of San Francisco. It was Robin Williams and then Dana Carvey and then everybody else we were all in the Meyer but those are the two guys is who were like they were famous before they were famous. You know and I remember when Dana Carvey I down in Los Angeles and he was struggling like because they just didn't know what to do with the guy obviously was super talented and they put him on this cop show where he's playing like the helicopter. It was a helicopter pilot CEO and it's called blue something if blueshield or whatever that will go and I was like I'm watching this thing. He's the most talented guy way. How can you not figure out a way to use this town? Finally Saturday night live did he's one of the greatest you guys ever on that show and but I remember thinking like it was just amazing and took off so much pressure for me and I said if they don't know what to do with this guy the most talented guy had come out of San Francisco then what the hell they can do with me. I should have nowhere. I should have no pressure. That's the kind of thing in show business. It's just the IT really is a business in a really is like the ups and downs of it or like are so palpable you know and then if you see like you know other guys like when you you know home when you hit it like when you were on the I guess the Montreal Comedy Festival that must have been a ridiculous who the guys that you were like <hes> at that time I think Jessil Nick might have been my ear okay Anthony Jessil Nick I can't remember to Oh my God Kevin Hart. Wow that's right Kevin. I remember walking with Kevin Hart. Who's done on a friend of mine named Dean Edwards and Kevin Hart was as mild mannered Super Nice Guy that I did not know but I knew Dean Edwards? It's super talented guy from back where I'm from Rochester and I remember walking with Dean Edwards and he was like so again he goes. I just got S._N._l.. And he just got S._N._l.. And aren't being like dude. That's like that is the coolest thing ever ever and he's like oh by the way this is my buddy and I met Kevin Hart briefly and that was it and then dean ended up doing good he I think he only did a couple of seasons but it went really well for tours all the time but like Kevin Hart Yeah. I know I mean just blew up yeah. Well that's great. I really haven't done them respect for him. You know it's interesting because really funny yeah I remember Chris Rock called me up and it was like my probably called him but I I just saw I just saw Kevin Hart and I want like <hes> Oh yeah I was. He said Yeah I get it. You know it's funny. You got to see what the kids are doing. Chris was always totally. Give respect the COMEDIANS and guess what they're doing. It wants to be part tired of it and current and everything he's just how great was his show. We saw just absolutely brilliant recently honest well his last comedy special I mean we saw it live that he did and it just it was just yeah brilliant and such a respect and such as another level of honestly that he did he really is he's the guy that I think change modern comedy back with you know that special. They did back in one thousand ninety six which is funny because I went to go see him in San Diego Ninety five because we I'd quit he quits I'll have a little bit before me and then I quit like an year a year later and then I went to go see San Diego at the Improv in San Diego I just drove down to go see him and I saw him in a wasn't packed you know and this is like ninety six ninety five ninety six and he said like <hes> and his show was brilliant but it wasn't impact and I met with after he did great I mean he's you know he's obviously he's always been a Berlin community and he said to me he was like man. I'm GonNa blow up all going to blow up now. I'm telling you it just it's it's it's going to happen. I just you know this next. I'm doing this H._B._O.. Especially I'm telling you it is gonNA blow up and I was like wow God I also buddy. I Love Yeah. Hey you're the best you know but like I didn't see what he saw which was just taking his his standup which really was had another fucking level and he had a vision for it to become this. Thank you know the biggest comedian the world than he did and it was like incredible though because I do remember being the San Diego and I'm like oh I also buddy him but you gotta have that vision for a guy like Kevin Hart. I'm sure had that vision for it to you know to be able to see yourself perform in front of like when he's in Australia I think he had a hundred thousand people comes in why he sold out like a couple of nights Hollywood bowl. That's serious he got eighteen thousand people like some of the biggest. If you're a comedian you play like Madison Square Garden or the Hollywood bowl and you get people to park that far away and after walk to come they're gonNa Really WanNa see you and Bay Bay worked at the Hollywood bowling alley the road so long so do you get like nervous or anything before show when me I don't know at this point. What do you feel me? I think you kind of steely yeah you know I do you know different circumstances. Rob Will Make Fun enemy. Sometimes we'll bring nervous like when we were in the military tour yeah when it's something strange like we're trying to prove myself the first shows. I'm always a little shaken rob's like like I don't know I don't I don't feel it in you know. There's a level of it or why I mean the thing is about like there's an Asian kind of thing like I feel with with me when I'm nervous. I ve Asian people laugh. You know they're like giggle. You know it can't it so it's a different more of a of trying to make other people relaxed when you're nervous. That's what I noticed you know my family and <hes> the Filipinos side of my family sweet. It's a nice thing but I also think I was a certain point like when I was first starting out as a comedian I would like to have meltdowns. I mean like literally like you crawl up. You'd like you'd walk off the stage but you felt like you were literally like a puddle just water settling like you rolling off the stage like like a puddle and I just remember like sometimes it's so the potential that's why like for Comedians when you're eating it on stage. I mean eating it. It's something you'll never it's like eighties a humiliation and his that is palpable and it is like most people never experience because they don't allow themselves to subject themselves to that potential humiliation and rejection and that I mean it's just it's even more than just rejection. It really is like a I can't even people laugh this rejection kind of not just your jokes would've you. Oh yeah exactly well not just almost view of it is you because you can't separate yourself from that and I just remember like the sensation and I was smart enough to like I remember at the holy city's INSERM CISCO and I was like nineteen or twenty years old hold still trying to figure this shit out and very young but still also. I'M GONNA figure this out. I knew I was and but at the same time I remember like I gotta remember this because I said I can't let this audience affect me like this. I literally felt the heat from the humiliation from bombing bombing hot heat from it like like my ears were melting off my fucking face. I mean like literally like melting. It was that kind of like on fire that kind of like <hes> you know and then I remember walking off the stage and Gauguin okay that's it. I can't let them get to me like this and I literally had like okay. I'm GONNA I literally did this thing off. Guard stage ahead like literally about my waist. I'm going to let them get to here and that's it. I'm not GonNa let them destroy me and I'm not GonNa let them ever get to me like this ever again. Is that and that's so you kind of get to a place like hey sometimes you're going to have good show. Sometimes you can have bad says we can't let it like ruin your you can't jump off a bridge. You know emotionally but that's a really good self control well. It's it's survival because what it really is. It's it's in in some ways. I wouldn't say like you know it's it's not I mean it's drowning but would you know not in the water but is that sense of panic. I wouldn't say it's not when you say that's not far off to great way to put him drowning non. Did I am because it's the helplessness. There's nothing you can do. You can't save yourself right. Miss your drowning in the water but it is true isn't it. Isn't that a very good way to say die retaliation. Please stop me if I already said this. Whatever tell you my bye bye worst bombing story <hes> I? I don't remember I'm onstage and there's a it's a college in West Virginia and I apologize if I told you this but I'm a college West Virginia and I go to the college and a woman meet me out front. There's always a woman in charge and she says I have really bad news. We just lost all the air conditioning in the theater and really hot night and so a moments ago. This place was packed. Everyone's Kinda filed out a few people have stayed and we're GONNA do the show anyway and I go. I have a good attitude I go. Hey we'll do it anyway. You know we'll see what happens so I get on stage and there's like thirty people in a six hundred seat theater and it's so hot they've opened the windows to get some kind of like draft coming in to cool down a little bit and West Virginia late at night Windsor over every time I tell a joke I actually hear crickets like actual crickets and I remember standing there going. We like this is like this is where that came from the cricket. Noise came from people bombing outdoors before they were comedy clubs. I remember you get to a point that when you're bombing where you get this thing in your head that goes you know what I can't wait to call aw Robin Tom How should he this was and it makes it was this recently like years and years ago. It was years ago. I was updating it. Okay but yeah you Joe. I want I want. I want to tell my friends. I will say you're right about that. I will say you're right. I mean you do get to a point where like literally like the stuff. That would have really bothered me like N._C.. Bothered me like you know just professionally or just go like that decade believes in some ways. Sometimes I go. Can you believe this yeah. I got a stolen you this but I'm not saying even bombing bombing it just for me bombing another words just for me not doing as Kazakh. You know. You got people paying to see you. They're excited to see they have an investment to see you. As when you first start there's no investment from the audience to see you there just a lot of times I mean when we started when when I started and it became comedy became so popular that he just needed bodies in as Jerry Seinfeld said that funny thing very true thing he said a nineteen seventy five lower forty comedians on eight of them were good in nineteen eighty-five lower four thousand Canadians and eight of them were very good and so there was just so what happened was to so many basically exploded. There were like this said. Make me like <hes> McDonalds. donalds were mic and opener blow away so they just needed bodies so they literally give tickets away just to get people to buy beer and there was like hundreds of people who will come in. They're just not even just getting there and not even realizing there was a show and I was like I gotta get out of this and I'd like to thank flag. I got on Saturday night. Live like pretty much right after that but like I was like this is not what I always assumed. Audiences are going to get better which is what's happening now was that it's become connoisseurs and people who become like they've listened to bill burs podcasts and they realized what a genius is and they get him they or they just know Joe Rogan's my guy and how brilliant he is and then you have like you know <hes> people who would who realize you know that like you know these there there guys and there's a way to get to them now and it is like so like Louis C. K. at his at his height it was like my you know this guy's a genius obviously and so <hes> that became what I was hoping for but it didn't happen in the nineties it just kinda comedy comedy kind of imploded on itself to the point where like you it was like an open mics open mic night on T._v.. Those evening at the Improv I'm rose you know Caroline's comedy. Blah Blah Blah was on T._v. until you killed comedy because you'd have to go out to see it and the stuff that you're watching T._v.. Wasn't very good either and the stuff you're watching the comedy clubs and very good as well. I have a question for Europe so the transition between a papered room free tickets and paid tickets. That's something that as comedian that I don't. I don't draw massively you're doing. I want your kicking and all right but I I wonder for you because it was such an explosion with S._N._l.. How quickly did that happen from hayward papering rooms and there's bodies in here to like walking walking out there's Rob Schneider fans and how different that onstage overnight well first of all like I always respected the art form too much? Just go out there and like if you weren't doing all the time. Is it a cause. I'm Chris Rock when we're doing <hes>. He's WanNa really talk me doing stand up again back to the develops to that ten years ago and he said I do it. I don't even know what to talk about is just talk about what you talked to me about every day at lunch you know while we're waiting for you know yeah actors to get ready or whatever well Selma Hayek trailer and and and go how does she look so good at nine A._M.. You know so so anyway I I don't know what I'm going to be able to talk about. Just talk to me. Just talk about we talk about it and then it's true because I never wanted to do like this celebrity victory lap or just you know I really respected the art form too much you just go out there and just kind of wing it and the audience. We're just happy to see the Guy <hes> I felt you know you gotta get good at it and the only way to get good at it is to live it. You GotTa do like you know Jay Leno. I can't take a weekend off. Maybe we can stay good jazz musician. You'RE GONNA stop for waking me doing every day you gotta. Do you said you're not if you're not doing four. Five Times shows the week you know you're not going to be great at the base. You know you WANNA be based and it's true you know and it's like I remember thank God for Chris Rock told me you know you could be the best this. You just have to just got to do it. Commit yourself to it why not and he gave me the biggest hug when he founded. I was really doing it. He's I want to make an observation of what Jim Jamie said before that when you bomb you WanNa call your friends and talk to them because people you can relate to but away but it's such a different way to do it like it's. It seems like it's such a different kind of job because most of the times when you get really embarrassed about something you don't WanNa tell people interesting. So what was it mortar so when you know when you have another kind of job I would say like a non like show business related usually when something embarrassing happens to so you the least thing you want to do is tell someone about it. So what makes you guys want to talk about that. Well first of all in a weird way. It's kind of like like <hes> it's kind of in a way it's a much cheese mo and it's a masochism anything. Matiz masochism are very similar. It's kind of like hey man. This happened to me and like if you could admit it. It's very manly only to admit I look I fucked up for like this is really painful and it's also this only people that can relate to people every comedian has experienced. If they're a comedian they have experienced bombing horribly so horribly that everybody goes off. Oh Fuck. I gotTa tell you like you know. There's an empathy kind of thing. There's an empathy with this. Can you talk to you can't talk to your wife about that in a way because she's never experienced that before whereas like there's a set that bill burr head that I think changes career he's in Philadelphia. You can talk to me so I can laugh. You do enjoy misery. I love that about you. I love that about you. There's a certain joy that you enjoy in other people's misery of that and I don't want to interrupt your thought. Please keep it but there's is also thing. It's wonderful to see a comedian destroying the I know what's even more wonderful to watch your friend fucking bombing. That's true. It's fucking the most fun and you know they're funny but it's like we all sit in the back like this. It's more and it's also it's more are interesting because usually Camis okay or whatever and then sometimes some even like the great comedians you go to the comedy store on any Einon seriously everyday this. They're the greatest comedians in the world. It's the greatest comedy club in the world right now and it is you would see bill uber and you used to be Louis C._k.. You would see like a Dave Dave Chapelle. You'll see Chris Rock. Kaminski's you see like you know <hes> Maniscalco. It really liked brilliant comedic brilliant comedian and like so you see but you see these guys it was still struggle and like is there still working stuff out and it's a tough and it's like these. Are these guys so when you see like you know it is unusual to see you. Somebody absolutely eat it in a way. It's like you know. Comedians are like <hes> you know. I would say they pay health well. Yeah I mean it's there's like there's a certain <hes> and you know. The person's. Good is part of it. Watching a bad person bomb is not fun. Someone that's really funny. Bomb is having trouble. I remember one time I ate at my buddy. Larry Larry Bubbles Brown. I mean literally eight and I just knew he was going to say something and I literally like aided the holy city is the great gummy Gloveman implementary in San Francisco and aided and like Larry walking by and I just he sitting at the stools and I don't even look at him walking by he just he just said tumbleweed dime. Oh Shit the DIMBOBITA does walking stay. We bombed onstage. Once in my buddy. Tom Simmons was hosting and as I was just feeling like I'm never going to do as he shook my hannity goes. Hey Buddy nice speech. I know wash it. It happens though you know. The thing is also sometimes like there's little things that concern audience off so much so that like <hes> there's this comedian I won't mention his name. He's not famous but he calls just as <hes> website but he's a comedian from San Francisco. Anything's a writer in does does pretty wells writer and everything but he was performing the Improv back in the eighties you know late eighties and he is walking on stage and he had these like fancy shoes with the heel on. Whatever like you know those English the English kind of you know I forget what they call now? He walking on stage in these new shoes brand new first day trips on the shoes falls on US A- and he's very athletic gets up POPs up and then just does his act but like whatever he could say it just he didn't acknowledge it and whatever he could say wasn't as real as what just happened tonight on stage into the audience just like well then you're a phony. If you don't acknowledge what happened and there's that little is this little signals that they always can pick up on. Jamie got electric yet at once and he did acknowledge. That's incredible by the way you had the foresight to like to go with something. That almost could've killed you dude if you go on Youtube Yeah and you search comedian electrocuted which is slightly alive because I I do. I'm alive. You show you see it. It ran through your from your finger or do your fucking skull deer toes. There's a neon sign and I usually do this. Dumb joke right flailed around. I touched the sign and you can see the neon energy from the sign leave and enter my body like it leaves leaves. There's video the video only minutes but I felt like that. Microphone was stuck to my hand for now like it was like stuck to my hand and I threw it on the ground. The crowd starts cheering. They think it's part of the show like Oh. This is like a prop guy. They're cheering club U._C._L._A.. Listen the video yeah and I thought I was at minute five of a forty five minutes but you went with it. That's the way it works. You know because that's real. How do you not acknowledge what had happened I could did you guys see my bones? You know the audience really respects and appreciates that into something about like something. That's like a weird thing that I don't like <hes> with an audience is when the audience is like when there's a heckler and you handle it deftly in other words like for me like when I know people are paying to see me even if they heckle. I don't feel like I don't like it but I also don't feel like I'm in a place where I'm taking thirty five dollars for some gray faulk your shot up you know. I don't feel like I mean that's my own self loathing. You know my own thing. Maybe I should say that but as well let me see what this person has to say and I don't really plan out but I'm pretty good on my feet and I figure if you like again another thing Dana Carvey. If you go far enough you'll find a place to go. <hes> allow yourself to go down the rabbit that whole with what's happening and you'll find a place you know but like the audience rewards you for that disproportionately the a how easy it is be how you know it's kind of like it's because it's they've always doing it right in in front of the moment yeah yeah and then that's kind of phony bullshit. He thing that I I don't I don't like and I don't want to encourage and then like and then other people that was fun. They'll do more but like <hes> so you have to definitely you know in the nicest way or whatever some. Some people don't handle it at all. Well the the yelling out of the stuff is very disrespectful. Oh yeah totally. It's like if you're GONNA play or you're like concert of like you know like an orchestra or something then. You're like yelling only ship we can't do that. It's really true. You never got an orchestra. It just never happened. You know what's funny. Though is this like it's true. It's like during a place different because I think it's a even though it's a you know as George Carlin would say. This is a written word third piece that I'm performing <hes> it's still you know this live piece that people want to believe that is being created in front of him being. Everybody knows it's a routine but I think a lot of communities will do they'll they'll go further in a certain particular way and if nothing nothing is one hundred percent the way it is. There's some comedians do exactly the same George Chrome would have this specifically worded beautifully <hes> performance play almost with you know. It's like a jazz performance piece as you know in a way but some other commies can play play around you know with that <hes> so I think there's that that kind of that openness but there are someplace. That's very different than like a play. I mean you could have like as other stuff happens. You know and I do like the the kind of <hes> the weird kind of well. There's like some potentially destructive disturbing elements that could happen to you know disruptive that could end up being like I like the challenge of it like when people get the fucking check or when everyone's like what the hell I got paid for this do they die ordered the fries and I didn't order and then there's that and also people could drop a drink and a waiter coming by but you have to work through all that headed you know about what Rob's side was called the backdrop of the Czech drop because sometimes a comedian Alaskan. Would you not want stood up trudge the dejected after the show. I know it now just do the damn thing. It's a huge like for rob to power through that as a pretty impressive thing the check drop rob is when the waitresses bring checks to everyone so you have an entire audience realizing the maybe they paid you know they're buying more things than they thought they have to. At least you'd pay take the credit cards and it is a it is a lull like it. Is You got to power or through because people and it's so nice if they're still trying to pay attention while they're paying for it at the same time. Listening is the greatest you know so in that way I look at it that way but indifference in a play whereas like I remember you know Charles Grodin one of his books. I think he is book was was titled. The It'd be nice if you weren't here which is <hes> is great book hero and basically when he did a movie with the Elaine Nichols wrote this play called <hes> The heartbreak kid they think <hes> Ben Stiller remade. The original is ridiculous so yeah it just about this guy who falls in love on his honeymoon with somebody else. Oh God and it's like it's weird. It's kind of weird kind of Sun would never happen or they try to think they did. Try to remake it but ah ten years ago but the Elaine may made the Santa had her daughter play the one that got dumped which I think is kind of weird kind of unhealthy and whatever relationship but she was amazing in the thing and the play but so after that there was a big hit kind of surprise big hit and Eddie Albert won the Academy Award for best supporting actor it's really amazing and after that became big hitting he got this movie to do. In England who's a starring in that and he's really excited to be over there in England shooting and so he just assumed soon people are happy that you're there. That's the thing about actors doing T._v.. Or movies assume people are happy that you're there making something because it's exciting to you because you wanna be doing it so he was there in England. I think it was a you know does an above London and this woman came out of her estate. Is it do what skiing on here and it goes from Hollywood man. We're making a movie would be saved Nice if you weren't here. That's what he titled His Book Amazing Going Back to what you're saying. One of the stories that <hes> he was doing a play on Broadway with Anthony Quinn Great Ather Anthony Quinn and Anthony did this thing he never forgave Anthony Quinn for in the play 'cause sometimes doing a place tough because it is the same word. It is the same thing yeah the performances can be different each time in how you do the show and the energy whatever you try to keep it fresh for yourself and how you deliver the lines but it is a written thing and you need the the other actors to know what you're going to say and so <hes> but you also have to perform on a Wednesday matinee and sometimes a fill it up they have this thing called senior discount. Thank Gal. They don't have that in the comedy clubs yet but a Wednesday show with the senior discount. I have worked in Florida by the way and we have done some four o'clock shows just because you know they Fridays Branson Missouri. They'd be like late show at six thirty. It's like a lot of Sarasota Sarasota which is a great place. Actually I love that. mccurdy's is a great club out there and we'd sell out every show there so they said let's we're going to have four o'clock or six o'clock. Show is really he said Yeah and sure enough. It was packed the old great audience even if they're mad they can't walk out. Ah I'M GONNA give you my humble opinion of this Mexican about hecklers. I think the reason that people do that is because the think they are funny. Oh because that's the reason like if you even if you go to the circus like Cirque du Soleil have people yelling at the at the acrobats right because they know they can't they know they can do it Jill at the play because they know they can't do that so they don't do anything but in Lina I feel like in a comedy club. The grid could do that also the alcohol makes them slightly more courageous and everyone's funny at work or you could do that and that's how a lot of people started because you can do that and then they do stuck up there and they realize how hard it is however the key is like to actually really do that and become you know so they they do think they're good at it and then it's quickly. They realized that they're not I mean I would really like to see for instance like someone like him a heckler in the show and then hand him the microphone. Okay finish the show. You see what happens yeah. That's the thing too is like you know that's why I always tried to like. Keep it without without like sometimes some some of the audiences let me finish the Anthony Quinn store so Anthony Quinn was with Charles Grodin Anthony Kuhn Charles and then he's doing the play and literally it's a Wednesday matinee with a senior discount and the seniors because a guy I snoring snoring in the front row I forget or he was like taunting one that he was talking loudly talking loudly to his wife and you know they're deaf at that age at that age going to <hes> and I saw that look anyway so he's talking and finally Hey Hymie town why Gang Anna R._T._A.. Play and did their branches you three don't wind that feel. I knew I needed detained brunch. Those conversations going to somebody like that and finally Anthony Coin just looks at it just goes out and leaves the play for a second and Charles Grodin in this and they're playing this looks out in the audience and just what are you show aw amazing good for him. That's amazing but no Charles. Grodin didn't think it was good for him because he's like he never forgave him for that. It's like how dare you interrupt and break that fourth wall for like just like the why even finish the play so as you know he. He's very took umbrage to that point. I don't know your human beings but yeah I think yeah. I think if you're a heckler you're an idiot. If you really they wanted to comedy than do it then ride your own stuff and then get onstage. Some people really genuinely think that they're helping her. They think I've got a funny idea. They really think there are no exactly but I mean good for them if they think they're funny they should. They should try to comedy. I just think it's respectful. Not only for the comedian for the audience banged their money to see a show absolutely yeah. What was your worst experience with the heckler? Do you remember that we'll wrap this thing heckler. We're going to wrap so but before we wrap it up. Let's just make sure we get everybody so Patricia. <hes> no I loved these new videos that you're doing work and people find them on Instagram am but yes I do a lot of cooking. I Don I am at I M Patrizia my Semi Patricia Patricia Patricia my m. a. y.. Yes and you're doing a lot of beautiful cooking videos that I love cooking and I've been eating a a lot of ways you do the eating towards good and and what about you. I know you get the new T._v.. Job At C._B._S.. Congratulations thank you. Thank you very much. Also you're still performing standup right not going to give them doing stand up. I'm all I'm going to be going to the clubs in L.. A. And I got some Saturday night shows booked and I'm psyched to a lot of my schedule. I'd like to just ask you right now. Can I do all the shows you're on. Oh God I love you laugh factories everything I would love to just come through guests. You're always welcome. You're always great what you do. How can people find you but I'm <music>? I'm Jamie listen at Instagram and my website Rob Schneider's friend Dot Com. That's a real thing real thing goes dot com. He hasn't texted on a girl. You are okay Jamie because you guys know if I seemed a little distracted better. Get data then as a girl so this has been our podcast. See what happens in the WanNa. Thank you for seeing what happens I did want to you know we started off talking about philosophy and <hes> I just want to end with another Albert Camus since we started with it. He said I do not believe in God and I am not an atheist. What does that make you think is not my it's not my cup of tea me the subject matter yeah we say it again I do not believe in God is an atheist? We'll maybe it's I. It makes me think like hey let us know when you fucking decide okay. He also said my favorite thing speaking of like hecklers and stand up comedy comedy do not wait for the last judgment. It comes every day to him now that one I like that's true it does come every day all right. That'll wrap it up. <hes> this has been see what happens <hes> you can go to Rob Schneider Dot Com and check out the my shedule but hey thanks congrats and everything Jim thank you brother.

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Listen First! SPORTS CRIMINALS, A Parcast Original Series!

Female Criminals

16:34 min | 9 months ago

Listen First! SPORTS CRIMINALS, A Parcast Original Series!

"Ready to spice up your Thanksgiving with real life. Tales of mystery and Crime Than Park cast has the perfect binge worthy treat. They may be sports. Greatest Heroes but when it comes to the downfalls of fame money and ego you go there far more flawed than you think. Every Thursday podcasts original series sports criminals keep score on the darker our side of sports each episode chronicles the high profile names. You thought you knew and the crimes you'll never forget enjoyed loyd. This exclusive clip from the first of two captivating episodes on disgraced figure. Skater Tonya harding. If you WANNA listen to the full episode follows follow sports criminals free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. On February Sixteenth Nineteen ninety-one twenty year. Old Tonya harding stepped onto the ice in Minneapolis Minnesota for the US figure skating championships. She cut in atypical figure. Her skating dress was mint green polyester. Her Blonde bangs were teased into frizzy curls but Tanya was more than unique in her appearance she was about to attempt something none of fellow competitors could even imagine a triple axel when her music started Tanya. I performed back to back camel spins extending her right leg behind her in arabesque best balancing on her left blade as she whipped her body around then she pushed off charging down the rink gathering. Power for a triple triple Lutz. Tanya balanced on her left foot gliding backward then launched off her right toe pick and rotated in the air three times times. She landed perfectly on her right blade. But a triple Lutz was a relatively routine new for Tonya harding in his commentary. Commentary figure skating analyst. Dick Button voiced with the entire rink was thinking and now the question is whether she will become the first first American to attempt and complete a triple axel jump fueled by momentum Tanya propelled down the ice gaining speed beat then halfway down the rink she let herself coast on her right foot. One breath to breaths then she turned and pushed off the outside edge of her left skate. Tanya rotated and impossible three and a half times before landing adding back on the ice on her right blade she nailed it. The crowd exploded in cheers and applause. In that one mm split-second her entire life changed. Tonya harding made history as sports reporter. Quarter Chris Connelly lamented. If we could stop her story right there it would be one of the happiest stories you could ever see but her dreams dreams would end abruptly less than three years later when her life was rocked with violence and scandal. Tonya harding would I'd be notorious or all the wrong reasons Welcome to sports criminals podcast original every week. We dive live in to the dark side of sports history and look at athletes who not only broke the law but broke the rules and covenants of their sport will also uncover how they're actions impacted the history of the sport they played. I'm Tim Johnson. And I'm Carter Roy. You can find episodes of sports criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream. Sports criminals free on spotify. Just open the APP and type sports sports criminals in the search bar podcast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reachout on facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. Well this week were diving into the life of Olympic figure. Skater Tonya harding. She reached the pinnacle of her career in in the early nineteen nineties. As the first American woman to attempt and complete a triple axel jump in competition. She was expected to win. Gold all the nineteen ninety-two Albertville Olympics. But she filled out placing fourth however as we'll cover next week. Tanya got another shot two years later in the nineteen ninety four Lillehammer Olympics but she was no longer the favourite to win this time fellow American Nancy Kerrigan and was expected to take home the prize till she was attacked by a masked man about six weeks before the Games and many people suspected that her greatest rival Tonya orchestrated the assault. What price was Tanya really willing to pay in? Her pursuit of Olympic gold was she involved loved in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan or was she simply surrounded by the wrong kind of people of victim herself. Uh in any rivalry from the Hatfield mccoys to the capulets and montagues animosities are deepened by our fundamental told differences while this was certainly the case with Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya harding. Their story was painted with a stark pallet with no room room for any gray area. Nancy fit the prototypical image of a women's figure skating champion glamorous all American girl. She was graceful graceful elegant and poised. She looked more like a ballerina in skates. Then an athlete powerful enough to launch yourself into the air with one foot her routines routines were set to compilations from beauty. And the beast and her costumes were designed by Vera Wang. Tanya on the other hand was pure power Dr Roth and unrefined rather than try to change who. She was fit. Someone else's standard she seemed to enjoy shoving her sharp. Edges is down their throats. She sewed her own costumes using bright garish fabrics. Her routines were set to the music. She liked listening to like rapper. Tone and local wild thing and Latour's Electronica hit people are still having sex. The two women couldn't have been more opposite in the media relished I in highlighting their differences as Tanya. PUT IT Nancy's princess. That's how everybody saw her. She's a Princess Anne. I'm a pile of crap. The differences in these women made Tanya a clear underdog but she forced the skating world to recognize that she was a contender with her talent. On the ice she could jump higher spin faster and skate harder. She made the world pay attention to her by accomplishing. What no one else could Tanya? I stepped onto the ice at three and a half years years old in her biography. The Tonya tapes. She described being drawn skating as one of her earliest memories one day while she was shopping at the Lloyd Center with her mom she saw people skating on the malls public rink. She had to try it. She remembered my dad said okay. Okay and my mother said no so I cried and finally she agreed. The first thing I did was make a pile of shavings on the ice and start to eat them. Mother told me I had to skate. Like the others or we'd leave so I skated. She was three and a half and she just skated. She was was that naturally talented. Tania's mother Lavonia golden alleged. Tanya could pick up any kind of move just by watching someone else on the ice. She taught herself the basics through mimicry. To levinas credit she recognized immediately that our daughter was special so she asked around around until she found Tanya the best ice skating coach in the Portland area. Diane Rawlinson when the volna initially approached. Diane she refused fused to take Tanya as a student. She didn't work with children. That young but not to be denied. Lavonia sent four year old Tanya out onto the rink instructing her to skate circles around Diane to prove that she was worth training and it worked. Diane agreed to a six month. Trial period area. D- they ended up working together for the next decade. When by the time Tanya was six she was landing jumps at nine? She hit her first. Triple loop loop in by fourteen. She was already attempting her now. Famous triple Axel Luna alleged that Tanya was self-determined inner training raining up before her four. AM alarm clock every morning. Ready to go to practice. But it's very likely that Tania's intensity and determination stemmed from a darker source. She had to be the best to survive. Lavonia was reportedly an abusive Alcoholic Tanya alleged that every morning her mother filled thermos halfway with coffee and the rest of the way with brandy. Then the two of them headed for the rink at four thirty A. M. Once they got to. The Ice Lavonia stood on the sidelines minds watching Tanya Skate drinking from her thermos when she wasn't skating up to snuff levona letter no loudly. Criticizing her in front of everyone. Lavonia has denied that any of her comments were abusive instead she saw herself as motivating her daughter she alleged that if no one told Tanya she wasn't good enough then she wouldn't feel like she had anything to prove and she'd be nothing in Levinas is she was helping ping her daughter achieve her potential but given the fragility of a young child's ego this constant stream of criticism from her mother likely affected affected. Tania's sense of self. If she wasn't perfect she was worthless. Diane Rawlinson described this confusing dynamic in an interview. Saying Tanya's family loves her deeply but her mother doesn't really know how to get the best out of her. She tends to put her down to get get her to perform in one. Apocryphal Story. Lavonia refused to let five-year-old Tanya leave the ice to use the bathroom instead. She forced her to keep skating even after she urinated on herself. allegedly she said I paid for you to practice. sear going to stay on that that is in practice. Unido all the practice you can get Tanya also contends that off. The ICE Lavonia was physically abusive Yousef whenever she felt like Tanya didn't perform well again Lavonia disputes. This but other people around Tanya have made statements to support the allegations nations. A mother of one of her skating peers alleged that Lavonia wants slap Tanya in the face so hard it knocked her off the stool. She was seated eight or non. Sandra luko who skated with Tanya as child described an incident she witnessed personally personally in the net. Burstein is thirty for thirty documentary. The price of gold. She said during the skating competition. I was in the bathroom and Tanya N Ramani came in their Tanya was having some issues and Mrs Harding just lost her temper and hit tiny repeatedly with a hairbrush. It was was very very very upsetting to me. Sandra only eleven at the time was determined to protect her friend she approached Diane Rawlinson told her she was calling child protective services. But Diane convinced her not to do it because of course Diane was already painfully aware. The air what was going on Lavonia abusive habits were apparently an open secret in the Portland Skating community but everyone also knew that if CPS CPS got involved and remove Tanya from the harding home her skating career would be over figure. Skating is essentially a white collar sport or less generously a snob sport. It's incredibly expensive and time. Consuming Lavonia paid eight for equipment. Ice Time private lessons costumes. Competition entry fees travel to competitions and more. She drove Tonya to the rink. Every every morning for practice then drove a school then drove herself to work. oftentimes for a double shift in one thousand nine hundred seventy six interview Albert Albert harding estimated that it costs two hundred twenty five dollars a month for five year. Old Tania's lessons in two thousand nineteen that would be over a thousand dollars colors a month just for rink. Time in the harding's were not wealthy. People they struggle to pay their bills and were evicted several times over background Akron. When Tonya reached the competition level in her early teens the cost burden tripled to come up with the money? Lavonia maxed out credit credit cards worked multiple jobs and collected donations Tanya recalled combing roadsides with her mom to collect bottles and cans for refunds refunds Lavonia dressed Tanya in her competition outfit for school picture. Day so they could use the photos in place of professional headshots. Every single dollar went into skating sometimes even over food Portland reporter and Schatz said that a lot of the time Tanya Nja was skating on an empty stomach Lavonia made a huge investment in her daughter and she expected did equally large returns. She had the example right in front of her with America's Sweetheart Dorothy Hamill who won gold medals at both both the nineteen seventy six world figure skating championships and Olympics soon after she was a spokesperson for Ford Lord and Clairol she became the featured star of the ICECAPADES. So in Livonia is is once Tanya was an Olympian. She'd she'd get so many endorsement deals the whole harding family would be taken care of for the rest of their lives. This was their ticket to a better life and so- Lavonia pushed and pushed and screamed and slapped and beat Tanya all in the name of protecting her investment but in pushing her daughter to be the fiercest physical competitor she left her emotionally stunted and vulnerable the abusive dynamics. The relationship taught Tanya two things first that it was acceptable to use violence to get what you want and second that love breath is conditional. She was only worthy of affection if she was the best so if Tanya wanted to be happy if she wanted wanted to be loved she better be the best no matter the cost no matter the pain to find out what happens next. Listened to sports criminals. Free on spotify. Or wherever. You get your podcasts.

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Leon Rose Takes His Place At The Garden, Marv Gets Shunned

Boomer & Gio

18:49 min | 5 months ago

Leon Rose Takes His Place At The Garden, Marv Gets Shunned

"Quake can we get a new chair? I don't I don't know what chair you. Why would you like? Send me a link. I've heard you have like next day delivery in some places I know. I don't need people calling in saying we want chairs. Don't please don't do that. I'm just going to let al try to figure this out. I'm trying to put it on house. Play the seafield. Do More than promote his podcast. It's pre-game show and his twitter. Yes okay. Well Yeah warm-up show between five forty five or six hundred yeah so anyway. Yeah regards the Knicks last night? I. Let's start with the lack of a press conference because there was no press conference. There were no questions thrown Leon Rosas way. They protected them. They put out a statement and the statement included all the generic stuff that you would normally say when you hire somebody of this magnitude of run your organization. You need patients. This is the Great Leader for our franchise. I mean I thought that Scott Perry and Steve Mills were great leaders thought Phil Jackson was a great leaders. Supposedly Donnie Walsh was a great leader. Then of course Isaiah. Thomas was a great leader. All these guys come in and it's the same crap over and over and over again and I guess I would probably say the same thing. If I were in his shoes I would probably do it right. In front of the media as opposed to putting out a press conference a press release press release or whatever. I would have the press conference so disappointing. 'cause I really I wanted to hear from him. I wanted to hear what he had to say. And now what we've heard is that he was in the locker room talking to the players that he's going to travel to all these road games to get the no the team and all that other stuff. That's great that's fine. The question is are who are who are making the basketball or who is making the basketball decisions and is that going to be Scott. Perry or is he going to be run? Outta town that to me is going. Be An interesting aspect. I kinda thank Scott Perry. I feel like it's going to stay here. He because I think he's on. That has the knowledge of what they tried to do when he got here when it was him and and mills so I I would think that their first mistake was hiring. David fizzed ill so that was a big mistake. They also traded away porzingas. I was behind that and I understood why they were doing it and why they felt like they had to do it. And Scott Perry had to pull the trigger on trade and I understand that he has having some these gains for the Dallas Mavericks. I get all that stuff but now I wanna hear what Len rose is going to do. Well I the one quote I do like you. Don't you think it generic get it but when I read it I liked it? I heard it. I'd like to hear him say it and I'm with you. I'd like to hear more from him. But the one quote that I took note was nothing about. This is easier quick so our yes for patients. Fine promising on. It'll be honest four. He's right this is a mammoth job in front of the same thing. Maybe but what do you want him to say? I know there's really nothing else. He can say I'm just saying that when mills and Perry started this project and they traded away porzingus to be able to open some cap space and sign moderate free agents to reasonable contracts. That's part of the patients. Part of the whole thing you know. And they got the third out of the three best players. Maybe you know. Rj Barrett turns out to be a very good NBA player. He had a great game last night and he really looked like he knew what he was doing. But then remember you have the Houston Rockets? Who played small ball the entire night and destroyed on the rebounding almost two to one and destroyed inside the paint. Almost two to one. And that's good for the Knicks. You know at least somebody was aware that look. We have an advantage. You know inside the paint. Let's take advantage of that and stop hoisting up. Threes like maniacs. Because that's exactly Houston's going to deal with Dantonio that's called Nice Scouting by Mike Miller and his staff. So I think Mike Mos- done really good job but I think all from all accounts reading you know like the Frank I saw the world of Burma's the world things of that nature go Leon. Rose probably is going to go get like a Tom Typical. He knows him. Well tiptoes obviously over five hundred coach. The question is it does his or his methods going to work with this reply in the new group that they bring in here again. And you know and I don't want to hear about Karl Anthony. Coming back here. Not a chance in hell of thirty seven year old. Carmelo Anthony Coming back the knicks idiotic. I wouldn't worry about that until it actually happened if it ever happening. But here's what you do. Have you saw a glimpse of what? Rj Barrett. Ken Be last night. One Game I just had a glimpse. I didn't say that you saw his future. But you saw th-. There's a reason why he was picked in the top five. I mean the kid had you know. He's got great ability in last night and good for him by the way hitting the driving lamp because the possession or two before that he arable the wide open three and have they lost that game. We'd be sitting killing the kid but that having been said he had a really good game last night you saw a glimpse into what he can be. You saw Julius randle have a good game us again. He's not oldies. A young kid to you saw a glimpse of one he can be you know Mitchell Robinson can be. They have foundation pieces. They need the superstar. And if you go out and you get the right coach thought it was David Physical. They were wrong. They tell you. I'm sorry no it's just you've got Leon rose now. That quote unquote has the connections with the relationships. He's built if you bring in the coach that big time player. See a vision with wild. The job is a tough one and there's a lot in front of them boy can change quickly and I'll say this if you're a free agent in the NBA or even a player that could be on the trade bloc and I'm a net guy you know. I am not a Nick Fan. I never really have been you. Look at that building last night in the fourth quarter. That's everything you want as a player. The building is electric. Place is packed for a crappy team and the energy in the building. Is I would think everything. A player wants to sign up. Well I I think people come in to see harden and Westbrook and everything else and then it turns out that you know the Knicks are gonNA upset them and they get excited about it. I know the Knick fans are hardcore Knick Fan I know that you know I've been to a game and a few years in and I have refused to go there until they get things straightened out and I'm not wasting my money on the product. I'll watch it but I'm not going to go there but the thing is is that here's another guy that supposedly has the relationships in the NBA. Another guy you know. Fidel had the relationship. Scott Perry has the relationships Phil. Jackson had the relationships Isaiah. Thomas had the relationship. Everybody has relationships yet. Nobody ends up coming here of any significance in the last guy that came here off significant happen to be Carmelo Anthony and they traded half the team the get them when they could have got him in the off season the idiocy of the decision making and the lack of patients that Jim Dolan and whoever is around him in his ear other than the general manager and the President that he reacts to that ends up firing them after two years and that's a reoccurring theme so now Leon wrote roses the next great leader and I don't want to Leeann rose not his fault. He's taking a job that he probably said. You know what? This is a pretty cool job. I'll take it and I'll try to make something happen so you gotta give him a clean slate. But I don't know what to tell you other than we've been down this road fifteen different ways from Sunday and here we are again. Here's why it's different. Here's why it's different because if you gave Brodie van wagon and let's say a blank cheque book which he doesn't really have with them. It's like what he's done with them at so far but my comparison is about giving them a blank cheque book with the relationships. He's had do you or don't you think that the Ross Rubio a little different while he does have a blind checkbook? Jim Dolan has proven over the years that life and try to win a disconnect somewhere in the organization. Let's bring it back to. Leon rose now and why this is different at least from my perspective as opposed to all the names that you just brought. And again I take Donnie. Walsh out of the equation. 'cause Donnie Walsh had this team on the right path and then he was submarine by Carmelo Trade. He wanted Melo but not the way that does some free agent at the end of the year. Let's just totally agree. Let's have patience. Let's build have patients down last year patients a year before patients patients patients. And you want to know something. Here's here's the difference Jerry. The other team in that building they wrote a letter to us. Two years ago a season ticket holders. This is what we're doing. We still got twenty games left in the season or whatever. So you're you know you're basically you're tickets. Aren't worth what you thought they were when you bought them at the beginning of the season. And we need you to stay with us. And be patient. Seems like it's a reoccurring theme over there giving us working with the Rangers right because you see the growth. You see the young players. You see the decisions that they've made the free agency in a trade. You saw the impact that John Davidson had on getting our per narran one of the five top best players in the league here to play maker and as somebody who has really embraced the pressure of wearing that Jersey in the building. And he's young and he's still in his prime and that was money well spent and actually is showing itself on the ice. The young goalies are showing themselves on the ice guys. Like Lindgren Indiana low and middle and Fox you can go on and on and on maybe Cap Oh Cocco next year will be a lot better than issues. The Nineteen Year Old Finnish kid. That's moved to New York out of the blue and all of a sudden he's playing major minutes in an NHL hockey ridiculous. But I would say it. You could see the growth. I can see what they're doing and when they trade away a Brady Shea and bring back yet another first round draft choice and I saw how they use one of their first round draft choices last year when they traded away. Kevin Hayes to get trooper here on like you know what I could see it. I just I don't know what the Knicks are doing. I are they starting over again or is this going to be the plan that was put in place by Scott Perry when he traded prissy Christopher Zinc just a theory all right just just a theory. And I'm I never finished my thought on why I think it's different. It's different to me. Because of the relationships he has had with these players. Now you WanNa tell me is. They'll find it and work out. I get it but that's also a head coach and it was a long. He's here for what if I told you? What if I told you? Karl Anthony towns was nick next year. How much different are they? Because I tell you right now. It's a different team and I know you can say well. Minimum Minnesota done corleones a damn good basketball player and I think the Knicks have pieces already in place now that they're going to be a superstar team but puts them on the upswing as opposed to where they have been basically sitting for the last decade. Oh I Karl Anthony Towns Leon rose client. Yeah all I know. Anthony towns seventeen forty two with the Minnesota Timberwolves and they traded for Liangelo Russell. His best buddy playing to try to keep them. They're not a great team. And you know but if you're gonNA tell me. Liane rose take a look at what they have done since De Ngelo. Russell has gotten there whether he's playing games or not. I mean they have to out of their last fifty seventeen games but if he's again if you if you're putting a team together and I'm giving I'm starting to give you big time pieces. I mean if the interesting towns the big time and he tells a hell of a player Yeah. A wedding player is not curbs player. Kind of player is that I don't know I'm not then. They just brought his best buddy. That's the to Minnesota. My point is Leon. Rose has a relationship with that player that might be inviting for him to come here by trade or however you get him Devon Booker Leon rose client. I'm not saying he's gettable but my point is if he's got people like that that he's got serious relationships with and has a pet to get. Amir 'cause that's been the issue for the last five six seven eight years maybe even longer than that is. How do you get the Star player here? Because they haven't seem to want to be here you might have a guy now in place people might look to Perry mills horror these guys like. Why am I gonNA play for them all out here? Bad things about Dolan. Well now. You've got a guy that you know you know well looked after you made you rich. And maybe maybe there's a path to get to the garden. Now maybe alternative doing there is. There is no alternative. I would have liked to have heard from him himself. As opposed to a press release. I'm sorry I you're the president of the next show up and say something don't put it out on paper like they're protecting. I'm not arguing. I one hundred percent agree with you but I'm surprised that you're there's no optimism like you. You seem resigned to the fact that this time as a knick fan I've been hit over the head for twenty years with one hundred and you WanNa know something else is really GonNa crap out of me and I did a CBS. Sports Minute about it. Yes okay so march. Twenty First Fiftieth Anniversary of the Great New York knick teams of sixty nine and seventy right and who was not MARV Albert Albert? Yeah and that really bothers me. You know because that was back when radio really was an important aspect to the league and to US fans and I remember driving in the car at the age of Eight with my dad listening to Marv Albert. Doing Nick Games. In the fact that this pettiness continues to go on at the garden at somebody of significance. Who now I will say. I am biased. Because not only did. I grew up listening to Marvin loving more. I also worked. I think seven years with him On Westwood One radio from Monday night football and it was it was so much fun being around him and I. I just couldn't believe now. Wish my dad were alive to see that. I was actually working with Marv Albert. We're not GONNA have him there for the fifty overs because I'm not going and I'm not watching it and that makes me sick to say that. Because Clyde Frazier was one of my heroes growing up the street was awesome. I mean they had a great team and it was a team in red holzman made it a team and that's when the garden was alive man it was it was and. I know it's we're talking fifty years ago so it's hard to people have a hard for people to remember it but the fact that it's not going to be there just continues to show me that there's something wrong with this place in that regard in the basketball regard not in the hockey. The why why. I don't how do you do it? So right and let me and so on the other hand. I the Jim Dolan. I know I didn't look. I knew it. The kids went to school together. I saw how much money they donate it to so many different Charities Garden Foundation. I can't even. I came to tell you the cardinal dreams all the great things that that he has been a part of and has been an is made you know that as the flagship part of his organization and then I come to this whole like pettiness that yet marv is a fan like we are I. I think he loves. The Knicks are loved the Knicks probably the pre Dolan next probably loved and probably said someone kind things about what he was watching when he was working for the club. You know that that's got to be buried man for the fiftieth anniversary. It's gotta be buried a to me more hours. Should be the guy introducing the Knicks as they come on the court is like what are we doing? I've been why. Why is he not a part of this because of some petty feud because you know we sports fans tend to be critical and we? We tend to go after people because this is what we get paid to do. I if you win. We're going to have a parade for you in the Canyon Heroes and we're GONNA do for your leadership and your ownership and the fact that you would spend any amount of money to be great but here. We have a fiftieth anniversary of one of the great all time teams here with personalities that people like me grow up loving. And we're not GONNA have marv Albert as part of that apparently not So that that is part of the issues that I see here and maybe Leon rose can I? I don't even know more would wanna be a part of it now If you're not going to be invited to it so I said this yesterday and I say it again that I I take all this stuff with a grain of salt maybe Lan rose is the guy. Maybe he is the one like you said Jerry that has all the contacts that will bring a couple really top end players here that will you know. Be a good addition to what the players that they have here. I think Scott Perry actually made some decent moves. But but it's we all know you. GotTa have the hardens in the Westbrooks of the world if you WANNA be any goodness league you need a star player. I star they. I think they've got decent players they don't have the star and I know I know what you're saying that I keep to keep bringing up the town's thing I'll tell you guys averaging twenty seven points twelve rebounds tonight I know it's forty percent from three seven feet tall. There's your guy and here's here's here's the other thing I'm saying to you is I just want to say this about Mike Miller. You know he's on the side on. He's got his. Ziesel out drawn. Plays and actually coaching the players. And I like that. And he's not going to be rewarded for that. Maybe maybe he stays on as as as an assistant. I hope that people are recognizing the amount of time and effort. He's putting into this you. He's got a chance if they play. Well down the stretch. I'm not saying he's going to be the coach but you never know you never know they go on some sort of a winning streak and keep beaten team. I hope they they did last night. Well that'd be abstract status. That's a different story talking about him as a coach. And that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about drafts. I'm talking about lottery in. We need another pick your right you do you know and you need a star player. I I say tongue in cheek. I say this but I could see it happening. You know a lot of people think if you have the second or third pick overall you're GONNA end up taking Lamelo ball and you want to see that and then bringing no I mean I just I. I don't know just be such like Nick. Ask Six twenty on the fan. Cbs Sports Network on Tuesday. Where you're just getting rolling eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. We'll get Marco in here with an update after the break. Also your calls coming up a lot on the next to get a lot actually going on football wise too so a lot to get to here on a Tuesday met Yankee trade in the works. I don't buy it you know by now and we'll talk about as you could yell and do Har I would. I would definitely buy it but the Yankees Fan go. Yeah come on. Let's make it happen.

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Kinda Cute  Ep. 17  Flirty Dancing is a Thing, The Cats Trail Horror Continues, and John Mayer is Right

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Kinda Cute Ep. 17 Flirty Dancing is a Thing, The Cats Trail Horror Continues, and John Mayer is Right

"It's kind of cute right. Hello and welcome back to kind of cute if you knew hair. Welcome my name's Bailey. Evan I'm your host and on kind of cute. We discuss articles from the cut and my general pop culture thoughts. y'All we got some updates finally got my hands on some good Harry Sal tickets but there in Philly affiliate which I do love Philly in their Friday night and I got them in Phillies to let Elena can meet up with me and I'm sick over how much we spent on these tickets but I've is literally camped out to get a good spot at a Harry Styles concert and you know what I'm I'm working lady. I will pay that extra money so that I don't have to put that on myself so I'm excited right it. I feel like it's going to be the best money I've ever spent and now I just want to buy like four other concert dates. Alas speaking of Harry Styles. Getting to shout outs arose. Since we talked about his news boyscouts last episode. He hosted an was the musical guest on. SNL This past weekend. I have to say I thought it was a really strong strong episode of SNL. I sometimes and my family always tells me I don't have a sense of humor so sometimes it's just maybe over my head but sometimes I really don't think it's funny and not even in a like. I like weird humor. Like weird stuff makes me laugh but it gets to the point where like I just don't even understand what's going on and I actually. She really liked this episode. I could follow the skits. I thought they were the delightful. Harry does really great accents which I don't think he's explored much in the past and it's good to know that he he can do many a type of accent. He can do an Icelandic. He can do a jock he can do a weird little pilot. I loved it. Speaking speaking of that episode Elena was at the after party for that show. Can you believe she was within four feet. Harry like why she's even agreeing into pay this much money to go see him in concert when she was like an arm's distance of him and could have casually chatted with him. I mean what's eight also back to our last episode. Would I actually kept misquoting facts in the Taylor Swift section of my discussion because I was so heated as sure you could tell I got super heated about the survivors of and Taylor swift stuff. And I kept saying that. He bought it for thirty Mil when he definitely bought it for thirty three hundred million. Which still she would technically have enough to buy it but I still do love that? She was shading the Carlisle Group which he had to finance it through so just wanted to correct myself on that because man we love a slip of the tongue on this podcast i. I have been in the routine of going to the movies for the past three weeks candidate. I've been really killing it with the five dollar Tuesdays and we saw Charlie's angels does this week and obviously I love a feminist movie. I thought it was delightful girly fine. I would recommend if you're going in there looking for some Albert Albert Einstein. Shit are you gonNA like it. Maybe not but if you go in just wanting a little fluffy lady like this. If you like this podcast you'll like that. Okay there. We said it I I mean it's it's not groundbreaking but it's cute and I liked it and it was the first time I've ever liked kristen story. I thought she played a very likable character Her acting school was a one. They don't like Alan out say she's a lesbian. She definitely has a lesbian in it. which I guess in real life? She's bisexual well we're lesbian. I can't really remember but I felt like it was a really a role she felt comfortable and I also wanted to talk about. Oh I'm I'm sorry. I meant to mention that. I also think the soundtrack for Charlie's angels is fire which Arianna Grenada. It's offering long but I was listening to it on repeat work today and it got me pumped up and of course I know. Cincinnati is in it for approximately two minutes. Total wonder how much she got paid for that being the boy because he's literally barely in it but I appreciate it when he was. He plays a totally unrealistic unrealistic science. Because I've never seen a science man. Who is that hot a police someone correct me if I'm wrong but I've yet to see one in the wild? I was also enjoying in my shipment of Las Horas wine. If you're not familiar with the brand las Horas it's made by Eric Wareham and man named Josh. Who maybe is also famous? But I don't know who. He is his Eric Wareham was master of nine. He plays is on the OH. Kansas told me Arnold this is why we have here here As areas the best friend in the show and in real life just like Z's he's also a huge foodie and he has his own wine company and I just think the winds are delicious. Like I I would say celebrity wines are notoriously bad to midland. These are delicious their natural lines. The he's on that whole train he can tell someone who's really committed to food and wine and we had the sweet cherry wine tonight and they just have to shout out as being super delicious. That's not may official legit shit of this week but if you WANNA get someone in ice present bring them over a couple bottles of sweet cherry wine. I think it would literally be the perfect Thanksgiving drink perfect Christmas. I'm already sad that I don't have another bottle left as has the three other ones. That came in the shipment obviously different ones but yeah I just wanted to give them a little shelled out another. Update the Victoria's secret show is officially no. Oh more. And now we've talked about before how they're basically trash and how their efforts of hiring like transgenders like bounciness pyo although great where like a little bit too late you know so. I'm not that sad to see the Shogo and May fendi reorganise laundry line become the new supreme in the laundry world in also. Oh happy news. Mercury in retrograde is officially over for two thousand nineteen and thank God. y'All this one hurt me a heart and you know I don't like to complain on this podcast Elliot. To keep an we know like life is good. There's not much to complain about but this mercury really after with my life and it always does does it in a very particular way and I would like to think that I know it's like you WanNa just think it's a coincidence or that. There's maybe you're accidentally manifesting in it and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy but can I just quickly go through a list of things that went wrong in this period of mercury in retrograde. I Lost Maria Tauch hearing that. I've literally haven't taken out for over two years. Just mysteriously disappeared. No idea where it is. My AC- started leaking. My tenants stare broke broke and they almost fell through it and died insurance. No they didn't die. They didn't actually die. They didn't almost I but that was the thought that went through my head so had to get that fixed ext Joys of being a landlord I was given some doozy work projects. I'm so working on. I had to crying breakdowns. One of which was in public. I kept not not being able to buy my Harry styles tickets and getting the affordable ones that I wanted and I'm usually good at ticketmaster guys. Okay I don't know what happened. Ace owes didn't send part of my order that was for my sister and brother that same sister her personalized Christmas gift was given to me in the completely wrong color and then had to get another one of those made My Uber's I keep not being able to find my house because my streets under construction and honestly I could keep going on. I'm sure Kennedy's Policy Inc thinking of some other things like some fit. This really hit the Shan that I'm not covering right now but considering that will happen in like the to last week's not great so retrofits always just those little well things that I can in my day to day I usually feel like I can. Just sorta manifests away or not stress over but then it hits and I'm just like Nope Nope nope so goodbye retrograde now we're in retro shade. which is not even great? But we're going with it all right onto our first article of the day and guys I have after a man I am ashamed. I am appalled. I always do my research and for two of the articles. I'm discussing day. I'm just now realizing I didn't watch the accompanying videos so I apologize. I will include that in my updates next week but these are just things I wanted to talk about so so here you go first article. Am I being punked. Urs flirty dancing a real show by Katie. He all right so let's go walk you through it. Katie Eighty says we're gonNA read through a little bit of this. She says initially I just saw too cute boys dancing fine so far then I understood that the cute boys learned this routine separately then understood that the boys were performing for the first time together. Stage two begins with the realization that this is a first date date a blind first date in see trees accepting that this is somehow a real show and is called flirty dancing and stage for which Katie Heaney is still working through is learning that the US version will be hosted by Jenna. Dewan formerly of Jenna Dewan tatum. I hope she's happy if she's involved in the Corio. I'm sorry for what I said earlier. So that's her recap of this and now from reading this article this way. I really wish I had seen the video. I kinda just took a little excerpts of what she said but but if that didn't make sense what discerned about this show. It's called flirty dancing. It's a people who separately learn a whole dance routine. They then perform mm it like while they're looking at each other through kind of like a glass. It's not even know it's just like a divider like they're not right next to each other and they perform in sync this dance routine and this is the first time they're meeting. It reminds me of that showed dating in the dark which I was weirdly. Obsessed with where they would laid meet in dark and they would talk to so they couldn't see the other person at all and then they would have to decide based based on that interaction if they wanted to move further with them and it was you know really trying to take away that aspect of judging people by how they looked and this honestly maybe all the way on the other direction like full on. I can't think of anything I'd rather do less than dance. A choreographed Korea graph routine was someone as my first date with them. y'All know I can't even go on a regular I eight let alone. One where I'm having a Cha Cha slide slide lake. I just cannot engender doin. I mean is this really. What the Post tatum? World is like free. Ill I wish you my best but I just I don't know about thirty. Dancing is next up. We have another article by Katie. Heaney I guess we were feeling her vibes this week. And this is called wait How bigger these cats and you guys know? I kept swearing. I wasn't going to talk about. The cats will be any more until I actually went. And begrudgingly saw it but then this trailer came out and like Miss Katie. I'm so confused but again I didn't actually watch the trailer but the article had a lot of photos insert it. They had a lot of photos. INSERTIVE which gave me. Es an idea of size. Like I was able to gauge it by the pictures that they had inserted into the article. And I'm not trying to have nightmares tonight guys so Katie. He writes that today in new trailer for cats. Drop derailing my number of work days and personal projects. There's a lot going on here for instance boobs and I'll leave most differ other people to talk about the most pressing issue to me is. What size are these cats? It keeps changing and I'm not sure any of these sizes are right so this is what I gained from looking at the pictures so in some shots the cats look human size. There's one of them outside and they're standing by statute and they literally. I do look human size and then on the bed they almost look normal. Cats is like if a cat was standing on its hind feet on on a bed if you can imagine that but then sometimes they look very tiny when James Corden Scott is going through a cat door but he's fully standing up not like 'cause you know how like normally if account was going through a cat door be kind out of a tight fit and they'd be on their four he's just standing up with. It was like some height clearance overhead. So this just a mistake in scale is it a metaphor or is it a ploy to Mike us. Watch this abomination and you know. I like to look at the comments to get some guidance. Sometimes and I appreciated this one from someone who goes goes by the name mind grapes. I been wondering the same thing. There's a shot where rebel Wilson smaller than a mouse trump question. Mark S may ask question question mark. Yeah what world is Israel Wilson smaller than a mousetrap. I just don't understand y'all we are all in this monstrosity together. I I'm just disturbed because maybe you guys have heard that the sonics movie. We talked about this when I was talking about cats how there was Sultana backlash because sonic looked so awful and just not true to his video game forum so good on the company when they got all this backlash they went back they spent five million dollars and they corrected sonic and now he is much more palatable and cartoon like for that I applaud them so the question is why is it this happening for the cats movie and wire people not more incensed about it like people were so up in arms about sonic but we're okay with this snot right y'all it's not right all right next article. John Mayer is right about. Taylor Swift's love by Kelly convoy. y'All I cannot tell you how pleased I am with this statement from John Mayer because what he says. What I'm about to tell you is exactly what I I said in the lover of you? That thank God is immortalized on this podcast. And the second part that Kelly discusses exactly what Elena said so propolis and Dan and perhaps to this woman all right here Coz so John Mayer was talking about the song lover and he said loved the song. I really liked the song. I get a little chuckle. Because she says we can keep the Christmas lights up till January and I go. You're insane. Everyone keeps their Christmas lights up until January. Great Ease right so this is what Kelly rates. He's right swift continues making an arguably even smaller concession singing. We let our friends crash in the living room. This is czar place. We make the call Taylor. I'm begging you please make more daring decisions about what you do in your apartment. It can be any thing you want and guys. I was so delighted about at this revelation because I felt like no one was talking about this in the media and I was like why me on my little deadly podcast some I the only one talking about out her leaving the Christmas lights up till January and is Elena. The only person I've heard talking about how weird it is that it's some insane thing that their friends can crash in the living room and and I was really writing my high horse on this until I went and I read the comments and it made me realize that what people right and the comments is exactly exactly how they would feel if they listen to this podcast. So here we go. I wasted a paywall article limit on this. Well fortunately you guys this podcast hassle free so you never have to worry about that but maybe subscribe Kinda cute anywhere. You listen to podcasts next up. I know you're not supposed to harm to people but when I read this I did. I'm just here to say this is some Click Bay obnoxiousness and a waste of the Internet. So I hope knows listening to this. PODCAST feels feels that way And if you don't please leave a five star review in a written review and I will send you a sicker. Just hit me up on Scrim Bailey oven and watch the Youtube Bailey of in-in look at my website Bailey oven dot com great alright next article adult man shares some good gossip about middle school friends by Madeleine Adler now you might have heard that headline in Thought Bailey. Are we really going from the inane. This that is John Mayer talking about his ex girlfriend Taylor swift and the one lyric and one of her songs to an Adult Man Gossiping about his Middle School Friends. But that I say this is very timely with Thanksgiving coming up next leak and I find it incredibly juicy so madeleine rights. Fortunately there's one powerful force that can unify. Even the most distant childhood friends gossiped about their other childhood friends. Take for example Rupert grint. Perhaps you had fallen out of touch with him since he stopped playing ron in the Harry Potter movies his but this week while promoting his new Thriller Series The Servant on entertainment. Tonight Rupert offered of some good gossip about your other Harry Potter friends. Emma Watson Tom FELTON according according to grant the pair who had been rumored to be dating definitely had a little bit of a spark back when they were playing her mighty grainger in Drako Malfoy but we were kids grant audit. It was like any kind of playground romance as own an romances onset. I didn't having sparks spark free. Sir Give you a little background. Emma has openly admitted that she had a crush on Tom Bell and back in the day and both of them have recently said they are self partnered. which is the term? Emma SORTA quaint I in the media And then Tom said he's also self partner. But I'm here to say. 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How to become a Self-Reliant Entrepreneur with John Jantsch

Entrepreneur on FIRE

31:10 min | 7 months ago

How to become a Self-Reliant Entrepreneur with John Jantsch

"What is shaking fire nation? J. L. D. here with an audio master class on how to become a self four reliant entrepreneur to drop these value bombs. I have brought John John's of duct tape marketing. He's a marketing Sultan Speaker. And the the author of the Book Duct Tape Marketing the referral engine duct tape selling the commitment engine in Seo for growth in fire nation. Today we'll be talking about what what it means to be. A self reliant entrepreneur how you can remain true to your entrepreneurial dream in your time making others dreams come true through and how to get back up and start all over again after you fall and trust me fire nation. We all fall in so much more. As soon as we get back from thinking our our sponsors getting your sails copy and funnels just right can be difficult but with cliff funnels new one funnel away challenge you can have everything up in optimized in just thirty days joined the next one funnel away challenge for just one hundred dollars at e o fire dot com slash Josh funnel. That's ill fire dot com slash funnel growing businesses that need qualified candidates in qualified. Candidates can be a challenge to find lucky for us. Ziprecrui makes it simple fast and smart and right now you can try ZIP recruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash fire that that's ziprecruiter dot com slash fire ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire John. Say what's up to a fire nation and share something interesting about yourself that most people don't know pay what's up fire nation and John. Thanks for having me back. We were talking about. This is my third visit to fire nation charm. John not the one in two weren't but this is definitely the charm turf. You people that know this but probably not many of of your listeners. On when I was growing up I was I was certain I was going to be a a rock and roll musician. I played the tar sang. Hangs in a couple of bands played in college actually in bars and that kind of thing and then just life happened and not dreamed didn't tin come to fruition but I still m- mm two or three times a year play like an open Mike or something like that to to to just kind of keep it there but it doesn't show up in my work to often. Well keep the dream alive live because I mean look at Bradley Cooper I mean that guy kind of just sat around just an actress whole life and all of a sudden I mean now. He's like an amazing singer. And you could come out with as many hits as he wanted to. You know when I actually saw an interview with They were talking about making of that movie and I guess he actually learned how to play the guitar fire. Nation is literally at never too late. If you have a passion goal you have the heart for. I mean there's also a podcast interview. I think it was a pretty big episode like freakonomics where this woman had a horrendous voice. I'm talking not even Karaoke. Go like she was off key but she just had this dream to to be like this opera singer and she recorded herself over a year getting singing lessons. Of course by the end you literally could not tell at the end of that year of training the difference between like a professional opera singer corn quote natural talented ones in her. She was a mazing. So what do you want to become amazing out fire nation. It's there for you but as I mentioned in the intro. We're here to talk about how to become a self reliance entrepreneur and John Literally Literally wrote the book on this topic. So we're going to going into some of the finer points of this really creation that he has put forth into the universe and just starting off with right away the top. What is actually mean John to be a self reliance entrepreneur? Sure so that is the title of of my latest book and it is it borrows from Ralph Waldo. Emerson's essay that many people are familiar with the say was self reliance And and for me took me thirty years to maybe learned this but I think it's many things I mean in a way. It's it's someone who believes that their life is a work in progress. I off But I think for a lot of entrepreneurs it also means that we have to come to trust ourselves and our unique gifts so much that we're able to follow our dream without fear of what other people I think there's so many people in many cases trying to say we can't do that. We shouldn't do that. You know you were supposed to be a doctor or you're supposed to be this so we've gotta come to a level just to fully trusting ourselves of then I think it comes you know once you get out there you know I think it. It means that you're going to search. You're going to experience things you're going going to you know. Try things that maybe don't seem right for. You don't seem familiar with you because that's really. I think that's how purpose find us instead of sitting in a room in trying trying to draw up what what purpose means to us in our business and then candidate. There's like four things but the third thing really is that it. It means we're going to be completely resilient things aren't always going to go away but it's how we reframe them to being inexperienced. Oh that's going to guide us in that we're going to learn from As opposed to Oh. I failed or I shouldn't do that or that. You know that that wasn't the right thing for me. And then the last thing and some people come into this Later in life. But I think a self reliant entrepreneur really is very focused on the impact that they're having with their business you know who the one hundred thousand thousand people's lives who are going to be better because we did this thing because I I think that those those elements thrown together trust purpose resilience and an impact really kind of sum up the entire package of his successful entrepreneur. Fire nation so many value bombs were dropped. I I want to go over a few of the key ones. I was shot down while John was wrapping their number. One believe that your life is a work in progress. You have to realize that fire initiative born this finished piece of art. You are a work in progress whether you're four or fourteen or forty like me. I just turned forty years old all this year. You know or eighty I mean never literally end your life as a work in progress and trust yourself and your unique gifts and I think that's a key thing that a unique gifts part because you do have a unique gift fire nation so please please please stop caring what the heck other people are saying. What the heck other people think you should do the pressures that you're getting put on by outside sources that leads to one single result and that is his regrets? I cannot echo Gary Vanna check enough about going through retirement homes and having conversations individuals there you will have conversation after conversation nation of either became X.. Because my mother or my father or so and so wanted me to do so and man I just wish I had done. Why like that's regret? And that's so sad because at that stage you know you are running out of time you are like really running out of that time to go after that unique gift and then I just love to. I talked about resilience when you get more into that in a little bit but fire nation end this. With what impact are you going to be having with this business with your unique gift. I mean why not make an area that you're actually passionate about if you're going to have. This impact has been an area that you're passionate about this going to bring out the true flavor and fire of that unique gift so John on you just kind of really killed it with that. I went back over some things that I found. Were definitely most compelling to me and for fire nation. So if we're going down this path of being a self reliant Entreprenur but of course these outside influences pushing us left pushing us right. Other things are happening. How can we remain true? To our Entrepreneurial Dream the first step in that really is to understand how little we actually can control because I think we get knocked off Salat and a lot of stresses caused by believing that we can control what other people do or say or think or that. We can control whether it's whether it's GonNa rain today or especially in Puerto Rico rains comment whether we like it or not and I think that once entrepreneurs preneurs and a lot of this comes from experience but one once entrepreneurs realize the only thing we are in charge of the only things that we can control our how we show up and how we respond respond to everything that goes on around us into us in with us and and I I think sometimes releasing all that other stuff actually frees you up to enjoy that they experienced Every single day I just was listening to something today. They talked about an Albert Albert Einstein. Quote that I'm sure your listeners are familiar with that. There's really only two ways to go through life. You can see nothing as a miracle or you can see everything as a miracle and I think that if we take that attitude and just say look this is. This is what I have control over. This is where I'm going to due to spread my joy and happiness and I'm going to release everything else and it doesn't mean you don't have a dream or you don't have a destination but we're we get so knocked off. I think is trying to control exactly how it's going to happen. So fire nation. We cannot control everything and John. You're just so right. I see so many. The people just stress out about every single facet of their life. Everything that can go wrong or does guerande like. Oh but if I'd done this done that that energy that bandwidth you can't get backfire nation and guess what you can't control in the first place. There's only so much we can control and I loved that phrase. We can control how we show up in in how we response so fire nation. How are you showing up in life? How are you showing up in life and then how are you responding to those situations that are coming up so John? I want to really talk now about how to get back up and start over after we fall because told fire nation in the intro. You're going to fall. We fall. I Fall John Falls. We have future falls in our. We have falls our future period end of story and guess. What's it's John's going to get up? I'm going to get up. You're going to get up fire nation if you're listening to this concept if you're taking this in if you're really absorbing these words works so John if you have anything you kind of want to close down about remaining true to your entrepreneurial dream and then let's move into how we're getting back up after we the fall. I think these two the the answer this really goes hand-in-hand for really both of those ideas. The remaining true in getting back up because getting back up is uh-huh remain true. All all the research on on kind of positive thinking suggest that really successful people you know entrepreneurs whatever we want to call them have an ability to to to to look at things and frame them not as globally but specifically so in other words instead of when something happens people that are very resilient and very successful typically say don't say oh see I failed. It didn't work I'm dom in all the things that people do instead they look at it and say very specifically this thing didn't it didn't work you know why or what are we gonNA learn from it so that we can then take it and do something different with it and I think that's that's the real big difference different I mean. Obviously there are times when things don't work out that fail that they'd have huge consequences. But ninety percent of the time is just recalibrate recalibrate recalibrate. And I think that. That's that's where you know again. This idea of control comes in because so often the way people blur framing something they see as a failure is based on their past. It's based on like Oh that didn't work out last time either so it's probably not going to work out this time And and we literally having that kind of stressing about the past and the future I mean we literally create the future by doing that. And so the ability ability to look at everything as just an experiment and another learning and now let's let's have the Let's have the smarts parts you know to get up and figure out how to recalibrate to me. Is the name of the game. I mean anybody that I think has been around for any amount of time has has either mastered or come to terms with that skill fire nation. US This statement. This did not work. Why just is identify things when they don't work? Don't try to pretend that they worked when they really didn't know in your gut and your intuition in your heart and your soul one. Something's actually working and you know when it's not it's not step back and say why because we are in a life of living and learning. I love how you use that word. Multiple Times John Recalibrate recalibrate. So I want to kind of echo that again live in learn and then recalibrate fire nation because guess what life is one big experience experience one single big experience we can realize that that is one big experience that is one big experiments. Then we're going to be okay when things fall when things fail when we struggle because it's an experiment that didn't work out. We learn we try something new and we do it again. And we experiment again. Ten Thousand Plus Times you know did it. Take Edison to find the correct filament for the light bulb. Like if you had just said Oh didn't work the first I I. It's over like who knows where we'd be right now like let's just realize it's one big experiment and fire nation. We're GONNA talk. This might seem a little off topic. But you're going to see how John ties us in about a little known women authors from the mid nineteenth century. We're not talking about the role the mind body and spirit in in your entrepreneurial journey and nature's example of how we can live a joyful life as soon as we get back from thinking our sponsors there are a lot of challenges. We faces entrepreneurs like finding the right hires lucky for us and for Jessie Cole. Ziprecruiter makes hiring simple fast and smarts. Jesse is the owner. The Savannah Bananas a Minor League Baseball Team. He was looking for a director of fun. Someone to lead the Bananas Fan Experience Videography Team Community outreach. Entertain a packed stadium Jesse new. Wouldn't it be easy to find that kind of talent. That's why he tried Ziprecruiter ziprecruiter ability to send his job to over one hundred. The job boards made his nationwide search fast easy ineffective Jesse says as we continue to grow up for every higher will go to Ziprecruiter. 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You'll receive a mission to complete each mission being a step in the process of creating building and launching your funnel get ready to rock your funnel where they try training approach. Daily Training Live coaching and accountability. From Day One through thirty complete the task given to you every day for thirty thirty days and by the end of the thirty days you should have a funnel that is live and ready to generate leads and sales joined the next one funnel away challenge for just one hundred dollars Pat L.. Fire Dot com slash funnel and get daily training. Live coaching in accountability from day. One day thirty. That's ill fire dot com slash slash funnel. So John we're back. I had that tees before the break. That's seems a little off topic but you're going to be tying all this together like the is that you are so talk about little known women authors from the mid nineteenth century and how that is relevant in today's conversation John. I have absolutely no idea where you got. Okay question. Are you serious. No it was so left field though you know. It was believable. I am completely giving that in and I was shocked when you said it was like what did my virtual assistant do now so it would probably be really helpful to frame up kind of the format of of the book. The self-reliant Entrepreneur. So what I did is I wanted to write a daily book of I mean it's almost like a devotional so every day so you get a new idea in its calendar Monosso November December all the way through the months and every day starts with a reading. I'm from some of what I think is still today. It's stood the test of time the best entrepreneurial writing that was ever produced and it was it was the mid nineteenth nineteenth century It was kind of the first counterculture period in America. We were on the cusp of the civil war. Women were marching to get the right to vote. We were trying to abolish slavery. So I'll send then you had this outpouring of writers writing about you know. Hey we we need to think for ourselves you know. We don't have to listen to the preacher or parents or the politicians you know we. We have to follow our own path of what's true for us and it wasn't just you know overriding like a lot of people are familiar with the row. In Ralph Waldo Emerson all all the even throughout fiction. I think at that time so a lot of the books that we were asked to read the scarlet letter moby Dick Little women the protagonists all of a sudden. We're now very self reliant as well and so to be. I felt like that was just such a rich vein to mine for a book that that really was trying to present Zandt kind of inspirational ideas for entrepreneurs so back to your original question it was. It was important for me. Eh to represent as many women's voices in this book as as as men really which was actually a tough feet because you know that the time period? A lot of women's writing was was did not really given a showcase and so there are a lot of writers that I found that Some some of your listeners and even folks that went and studied liberal arts in college might not be familiar with and so you know folks like Willa Cather author. Most people are familiar with Louise May alcott but A Elizabeth Katie Stanton. I mean Margaret Fuller. These were some real rebels because because they were first off they were they were fighting completely in a man's world. I'm trying to get the right to actually vote of not. Let's listen to talk about equal rights but just like a simple you know right. These were kind of some revolutionaries and I think I think entrepreneurs are very much reverend reverend revolutionaries in their own sense in many cases. We're trying to. We're trying to write some wrong. We're trying to change some little inconvenience you know. That's out there in the world. We're trying to help others and lift others up so you know I think we're allies times. We are doing things that are you know you might not call it. Revolutionary Book but I think in many cases we are So I'm GonNa read January fourteenth. I pulled out just a real quote from Willa Cather and some people might be familiar with her because her books. Oh Pioneer Song of the Lark were kind of things that we were given in school but I turned a page real quickly. You can't sit sit on the bank and think about it you have to plunge. That's the way I've always done it and it's the right way for people like you and me. There's nothing so dangerous as sitting still you only only got one life one youth and you let it slip through your fingers if you want to. Nothing is easier most do that again. An example of some of the entrepreneurial Auriol self-reliant writing that that just runs through this entire van of literature I think I just heard a mid nineteenth century mic drop. If that's that's even possible. I don't quite know what that would sound like. But if it was then that's exactly what it would sound like and I mean fire nation. This is what I love is that we can really just draw. Aw from so many different areas in life. We can draw from a video that I'm going to release today on facebook about motivation. Inspiration and resilience. Whatever might be or from a writing from the eighteen fifty s the twelfth fifties? I'm really getting into stoicism and like really diving. Deep into that. I mean there's some stuff there you know from way. Way Back in the BBC eras and it's just crazy that's not a ton has changed when it comes down to it as far as the struggles that we as humans are going through through mentally physically etc.. Anything you want to wrap up here. John would the women authors before we move onto the role of the mind body and spirit one of the things. It was amazing to me and I think it I think to your point is so much of this LE. I would read these things and go wait a minute. That was written one hundred fifty years. You know because because the the the you know we've got all this technology that we're blaming now in saying that that's like new and that's different but the human condition is the human condition and we've we've got all these other things that are causing distractions maybe That we can kind of blame it but it's really not the technology it's our use of it And so I think that whether it stoicism or you know the Self Reliance Literature that I'm digging into reminding ourselves by going back and reading inspirational works that that really kind of get to the truth is is such a great way to stay grounded. Absolutely love that in another way of staying grounded is knowing the role of the mind body. Spirit won't we're going on this entrepreneurial journey you're on John that I'm on fire. Nation Menu. Listening are so what does that. Roll a hippie thing. Twenty five thirty years ago it was like Oh you gotta get your head ride because your body and your spirit you know I mean but now I think it's scientifically a mainstream. You know people realize that that if we're stressed out for in our mind were worrying about what happened. Yesterday they were constantly worrying about what's going to happen tomorrow. How's this going to come up? It takes a physical toll on our bodies. I've been doing this for thirty years now and I mean it's like like running a business is is is a sport. I think that that you know any athlete will tell you that they've got a they've got to eat right. They've got to exercise. They've got to meditate. They got you. Visualize what's going to happen You know in in when the clock starts and I think that having again as I say twenty years ago you know that was kind of like out there thinking but I think not only the science but I just think the you know so many people are like myself writing books about mindset that I you know. I think that we've come to this realization. You know how we have to attend attend all of those things. If we're going to do our best work I love to look at nature. I mean I just believe the Mother Nature always wins and I really have to believe that especially with all of just the you know kind of scary global warming things that are going on in this world but I really do believe in the end mother. Nature wins and it's is going to happen so I love looking Mother Nature for you know just for inspiration for motivation in for lessons as well. I mean here here. I am just about two years removed from the devastating category five hurricane. That just destroyed my island here in Puerto Rico. And I'll tell you like I walk out now. Oh my kitchen and where I literally could not see a leaf for fifty miles literally fifty miles. It's now just this unbelievable. Lash Rush Gorgeous Paradise that it was. You know the day before the storm and it's just amazing that Mother Nature seems to always win. So how do you take nature's examples and kind of use those lessons that knowledge of how to live a joyful life. John I'm the same way in I'm not on an island but I have a home at about nine thousand thousand feet in the rocky mountains and there is A. I'm a firm believer in this but I don't even think you have to be. I walk outside my door and sit under a tree and I feel feel better. It's called groundings real. The groovy term is forest bathing. Now but but there's just you know we're all connected. Did all living things I think are connected and so two denied that that there's some energy that they were exchanging with trees. I think is is probably probably foolish but I think whether you believe that or not you know having candidate the example A read a little bit just from the book because it was imperfect not up for this nature has no desire to succeed. one-season inevitably folds into the next a year marked by change in weather ecology. Daylight no matter how who at much force. We might exert to contain it. If we attempted to mimic nature. One thing is for sure we would release the need to control any aspect of our lives we would give into. It naturally needs to happen. This is a fundamental element of self reliance and ironically by releasing the need to control. We eventually find we gain access to even greater control there. But but that's how I view nature and that's what you call fire nation nature's mic drop. So we got a little back tobacco tobacco mic drop there and John. We've been talking about a lot of great topics of course your book the Self. Reliant entrepreneur is chock full of so so many more that we could get to in this short audio mash class. We were able to have time for today so give us the one key takeaway from everything that we talked about the. You Really WanNa make sure our listeners walk away with give us a little more insight into exactly what Friday she can expect if they pick up the books. The Self Reliant Entrepreneur Komo say goodbye for sure so one of the things I think is significant about the book. This book or really any thing you choose is. It's not a book that you read and go get that now. It's a practice. Is something that you show up every day and you work on every day ends actually with a challenge question Russian and so the hope. Is that every day. You read something maybe get a little inspiration. Maybe you get something you think about you. Take that challenge challenge question and it Kinda gets planted in the back of your mind and then what happens is even if you don't have the answer to that you don't think you have the answer to that things you start witnessing things out the day and you start going out. Maybe I do act that way or maybe I. Maybe I am not letting go in a situation here where I should be letting go or maybe I'm not seeing the new real opportunity in what I thought was actually a a loss and so I think that that whether it's through a book like at this or or just some sort of like morning routine practice the gets your head right. 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